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The Who's Roger Daltrey

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The Who's Roger Daltrey

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My generation who's next have been inducted into the Grammy Hall of fame. The WHO has also received a lifetime achievement award from the Grammy Foundation Been Inducted into the rock and Roll Hall of fame and in two thousand and eight became the first rock band ever to be honored by the Kennedy Center. It's a long way from the Ragtag skiffle band that Roger. Daltry started with a few friends and a homemade guitar. Nineteen fifty nine now the lead vocalist and founder of the WHO writes about that wild musical journey in his new memoir titled. Thanks a lot. Mr Kibble white my story and today Roger. Daltry joins me on the podcast to talk about. How the hardships his parents experienced during the blitz in World War Two pave the way for his generation to shake things up two decades later he recalls what it was like to be the poster boys for the British Mod Revolution and why he never fully embraced that fad and sums up what it was like to play woodstock with one word chaos. He talks about how he and Peter Townsend pushed each other's creative boundaries. The WHO's Tommy. How he managed to resist the drug. Fueled excess of the nineteen sixties and seventies and how it led to quite a bit of tension between him and his bandmates. Especially the WHO's famously reckless drummer. Keith Moon He. Also reveals how he processed moons tragic death in nineteen seventy eight. How it led to the band's breakup in the early eighties and how a Silicon Valley Conman got the WHO to finally reunite years later coming up with rock and Roll Legend Roger. Daltry in just a moment. Roger Daltry is the lead vocalist and founding member of the legendary rock band. The WHO in a career that has spanned more than fifty years. He's produced eight solo albums in addition to his work with the WHO was inducted into the rock and Roll Hall of fame in Nineteen Ninety and received a Kennedy Center. Honor in two thousand eight now. He writes about is incredible rock and roll life in a new book. That's being called one of the best rock memoirs in recent memory. It's titled Thanks A lot. Mr Kibble White Mice Story Roger Daltry. Welcome to the show man. I WANNA start by going way back to pre who you were born during the blitz but not the one that most people think of it was what the V one rocket blitz at the end Yeah the people don't realize. The Bliss was on the east end of London which was on the dock area and we lived in west London but in nineteen forty. Four Hitler suddenly least his be one bombs on this which were like a jet engine propelled missile coming. And then it would start when everybody everybody's to just run because you never knew where for and that was kind of Code mini-blitz Operation Steinbach and this was nine hundred. Forty four an the twenty ninth of February where my mom started labor and she was determined was not going to be a leap year by jury. One of these areas so it must have been really hairy time because I. I can't imagine what my parents my whole family and every other family in Britain must have gone through through years to kind of go down a shelter comeback out and half the street will be missing just rubble and the similarity that un-american kind of draw for it on your shows apart from a kind of bloom bombs fell on the West Coast is nine eleven. Of course and yeah. Can you imagine the trauma that that goes? Well they were going down the shelters and coming up to that for almost five years. Yeah so you can imagine what it did to them. And you talk about the toll that it took on your parents but you also say that what they went through in the forties actually set the stage for your generation and what you guys would create in the sixties. Explain how that evolved through in the photo were by the war destroying everything we had no option to build London was level book. But what it did for us. It gave us a blank canvas of the mind who we were at generation coming up which became the first adolescent denies generation with a little bit of spare cash to spend his blank canvas to paint on and then from your country along comes over and of course every every young eleven twelve thirteen year old preview bessant into puberty youngster in England Mile. Wanted to be over his every female. Want you to give him a Hug. Very picky so we couldn't be but we we immediately gum from these very straight short back and sides haircuts rushed out to the bathrooms out of the bar of soap and slick to hear back because we couldn't afford anything like any kind of hair treatment to get the same look but the soap worked wonders so Saturday we were an and then along came. Mrk This music. Which was American early American folk song lead belly songs and chain gangs. Kong's APPALACHIA songs. Which was that were presented in? Our country is a musical skiffle by a guy here. But you have roots music right. Yeah and Lonnie Donnegan was the one you know a source of world that what what a dream existence that Mark B. Be Singing with already knew. I could sing because I being church choir. But when I saw Lonnie Donnegan. He sang songs and a Nikon of spoke to us in a different way and the way he sang them by the why he didn't look cool. Used to come on Edina jacket and a bow tie. It was way. He sang the songs he was. Singing changed on songs of plane. These are songs of anger. There was other stuff going on. Words Lonnie was. The one. Made me think I can do this. I I like to do this because long. Used to throw his head back off. Leisler someone just let rip just like Gospel Music uh-huh became something much deeper in the white touch me so every an- and the great thing about that music was that everybody could just get some kind of instrument you know. I made my first talk. We could have by it so I made my first kind of Acoustic Guitar by Copying One. Somebody lent my dad so I could get the size of hidden and look how it was made and I learned the free coast of which you could play most of these skiffle songs and of course. Why don't you get a guitar? Learn three chords and can start singing our songs. Someone else picks up something starts banging it. You get a washboard on some thimbles and you can get a rhythm section going on a tea chest which was a kind of two foot. Maybe two foot six square plywood box with a string fruita middle of the top open in the bottom a broomstick and a piece of string. You could make that sound every bit as good as the Double Bass. Yeah it's kind of fat Albert and his Junk Yard Band You. Yeah yes ban on every street very quickly had a school band. And that's where the the WHO. Oh my what became the WHO started. I had these my own from school. Harry Wilson. He very soon came in as a drama. When we we decided we move up from the washboard a real drum kit and then it slowly slowly progressed pro sixties Ya. Yeah and I suppose there plenty of people who might assume that the WHO began with Pete Townsend. But you started the band when you were in. What high school and somewhere along the way he auditioned and you brought him on. What did you think of Pete when he first met him? Well when it first came because you knew them before that yeah I will. I recognize them from school. I A year younger than me but Labor to kind of characters that you just could not hide in a crowd. I would nice now. That's that's the only way I can conduct. Explain Charisma had it. Even then I had it and I stood out in a crowd. You can hide them in crowd of five thousand especially Pete who who knows at the time was extremely prominent because we were just coming out of food rationing we incidentally nine hundred forty. Five was the worst year of the whole year when the war was over we had even less food for the first eighteen months because we had to share what little we had with Germans. A loaf of white bread was was it towards the middle of nineteen forty five consisted of half a loaf of chalk. Just my gut them. The amount and that's what we've been federal anyway. So I'd noticed them at school went an and the first one join me was John. Entwistle lived around the corner and I bumped into him on the street. Coming home from the sheet metal works factory where I worked and he was carrying a home-made Bass Guitar and I thought well some of my own kind of mentality you because I already made my first Electric Guitar by this time and I talk to John and he said he was in a band. He played trumpet most of the time but he was learning the Spice Guitar and he made himself. It was it wasn't much better than my one if if as good and I invited he you arguing the band. This has banned. And you know it's really good and we few youth clubs and things said to ask him if he was getting paid and he now he said you allotted yes was live through teeth so he invited me along. Sorry I invited him along to. The next rehearsal was abandoned. It was quite obvious John was a musical talent. There was no doubt about it. He Has. He had a musicality about him immediately. Obvious to me and he became vice play and at the time we used to have used to be on lead guitar. We had another guy call rage on rhythm guitar and he wasn't very good tool and John on base We have more make Harry on drums and we had a singer calling And we were kind of doing what cliff Richard Songs which the British all this ritual very soft and a little bit to a year announcing us. He was cliff Richard. We didn't but anyway after about six weeks said No. We're not GONNA get anywhere with reg on this rhythm guitarist. I know someone who would fit perfectly in his band and I said older. Yeah who's that? And he said what he's Pete and he's in Jabs jazz band with. He was in the jazz band with me and he played the Banjo. He said he's a great guitar player. Solace home bring him along them so we brought him a longer next week and there was pay towns in rhythm a rhythm guitar and it was immediately obvious. This guy had something incredibly special because he was playing chords the shape of which we'd never seen and the sound of which in the rhythm of which we'd never heard only maybe that came from his previous Banjo playing. Don't know immediately obvious. This guy was something special. Yeah it's funny to think that one of the greatest rock bands of all time pretty much began doing dixieland jazz. But then then. Because that's what I used to do. And then of course there was that period through the early sixties where people like ACA Bill Kenny Bowl. There was a period. Where Trad Jazz actually nominated? Yeah and became I. Of course he knows dies when you were playing the bars and clubs and things that we used to play if it was in charge shoe expected to play it so the WHO actually did go back to be in the jazz band for for two songs. I played the trombone. It's quite funny. Don't think back we. We would have done anything just on across now. The WHO became heavily identified with the British MoD culture in the sixties But you weren't a big fan of that in fact you say it really wasn't much of a movement at all what. I was listening. I wasn't I wasn't a fan fan of it. I kind of loved it. I loved the fact that it was very different and it was very fashion driven but it just seemed to me the prinicpal period which lasted about six months and then it became a mess. Dislike most fashions do And that's when I kind of fell out of love with it and I never could be a because I I had curly hair equivalent. Having some sexually transmitted disease you must have curly so it was very difficult period for me and we will. We will just kind of long air blues band. We met when a guy who became a manager. Cool Peter Meden but he recognized the importance of this mountain this new fashion movement that was evolving in London. And said they need? They need as their figuring because the stones are old hat now know the Beatles a dumb you can't be a look alike stones. You gotta be something else is so the look alike. Stones walked into a barbershop walked out the band and for the moment but equally inside. I was still a teddy boy now. Along that same time period there was an incident where Pete broke a guitar and suddenly. That kind of recklessness became synonymous with you guys. Which is something you sort of. Resisted the reckless image and the sixties drug culture. Wasn't really for you. You know when once the drugs kicked into the roof prisoners in a big way In the early sixties amphetamine which was mostly taken by the groups because we were doing two shows a night you know. We'd work between eight. Pm and eleven pm then we drive maybe fifty sixty seventy miles to another gig from two in the morning to five in the morning to Sta White. That's with the dig- job as well. Yeah Friday night that can become alone. Die Yes for sure in factories a lot of that time. That was your day job and then others this whole each Jones. Just yeah in an office which was different guy now working in a factory but I couldn't do those drugs. I only wanted to be a good singer. And the amphetamine used to draw me up on. My voice used to crack and it was. It was uncomfortable. I'd end up to my lip an just. I used to make me feel awful so I didn't do them. The rest of the guys did but it was controllable then but then the then towards the the ninety sixty five on our full I tour of Europe got very out of control in the who they were white from home party. Time Losing Big Time Party and account number. How many shows we did. It doesn't really matter but by law show they were popping salamone pills. The music was not only on listenable where it was too fast. I couldn't even get the words of the songs into them. I've applied so fast so loud and so messy and I decided dispense forward. Who's GONNA end so? I flashed drugs down the toilet. Which food rather nasty fight. Yeah and I guess for a few days you guys broke up. Tell me they were getting booed without you did I. I seem to remember. It was about three or four weeks and I did a few shows without me but I was always. I started this band and you know. These people came to us with the energy of the universe. Somehow the other ingredients I needed turned up. Con- explain it. But I will happen and I was wondering to start another band by now. And you could see we'd had t- recruits and kind of following and LASAGNA offer a month. The new management came back to me. They the management went to them. And Said you've got to take him back. He's working without Roja they then. The management came to me. I want you back but they only have you back. If you promise not to fight anymore I used to rule the I am fist. Love Scrap Shit. But there's only a slight problem. I said I will go back but I'll do it. I will not fight anymore. Not so that's a deal that's fine. That's he's to control but I want them to give me their would. They won't take any drugs before they go on. I don't care what I do often. That's fine no no. Try Be more Mike moral judgment on this. I just wanted to ban to be as good as it could possibly be. And you ain't GonNa do that when you're your books on Purple Heart. 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When did you must realize you've got the wrong word? Okay was no love hate. Kit was the most lovable block was fan. He was everything about him was very lovable. He's gentle imaginative. Incredibly creative articulate well educated man Uncomfortably I remember in this period of the sixties. When we first met him it was illegal. You can go legally and you go to gyro. Abby I mean and so not it was never love high was always laugh but he had decided this side of him which I only became aware of in nine hundred nineteen seventy I think. Seventy three Where it's quite obvious that they will screwing US Mum. An in and it was unnecessary. It was stupid I never ever wanted to get completely rid of them Because they creative genius. Both Kit and Chris Stamp Brother was terence stamp the actor row managers and they were incredibly creative and and that I never wanted to lose from the band But we found them screwing us and later on it turned very nasty But again you have to read the book of the reasons why and It was it was very sad for me and again the drugs took them. I wish I had known now what I wish I I knew them. I know now Maybe things have gone different and we could have intervened in a way that could have helped them but they were by the time. The end came for kit. He was very very heavy heavily. Heavily into my airline drugs. Think you said in the book that you guys would go on this long to her work your asses off and then you would come back to your accountant and find out you guys were in debt from a week we these circle had we had a meeting on that account ever forget it was one thousand nine hundred ninety one. By this time we'd had hit records and for six years and we had this meeting our accountant's Office. I said you've done Donald Greek. I'm really well. The shaved the huish worked on vantage. And you last year you over. It was about five hundred fifty thousand pounds in debt and this year. You'll be glad to. Now he's gone up to six hundred and fifty wish point put case he. He completely stripped naked and put his balls on the table. Said you all these well. I want to ask you a little bit about what might be considered your most creative period. There was this transitional period between my generation. And the WHO's Tommy where the music was transforming sort of into this representation of Pete's inner monologue and you busted through the Bravado of the Mick Jagger style to explore deeper less comfortable themes as the frontman of the band and the one who had to give voice to those lyrics. What was that transition like for you that that was very tricky time for me Because I recognized piece. Genius is a writer very early on and a very comfortable with it. Round to my generation you that was music to fight to Real rock music then almost and this strike after the breakout on me being reintroduced it of and I get presented with songs like Happy Jack Right. I'm a boy pictures of Lily. I you don't have to Kinda blues voice something happened. I get myself into this so I thought well the only way I'm to do. This is to try and get some psychological understanding of Peach Interior. And I. I swear like tried to mow. What what I tried to mow my voice into and when I listened back to it now I kind of succeeded because it almost sounds like I'm seen from the inside of myself. It's very weird. Yeah politique yeah and you to kind of fed off of each other very very very because in the every singer. Songwriter relationship to work really well as to have. And it's all about empathy Who Each Other. Yeah and and it shows that it was it was working even then even though I was struggling every day with it but struggle. Now listen back was well worth it. Yeah Yeah worked big time. Now I have to ask about woodstock it's been romanticized. As a seminal moment of the sixties. But you don't have that many good memories necessarily of the experience you say that it was complete chaos. What went wrong well anyway but it was kyle and that was the first time for me. I realized that there is such a thing as fight news because on every news channel I mean. I was in Connecticut with his time with my mother to be fathering nor their houses with them my future wife and we we put on the TV and of course. Every headline news about a disaster woodstock been rained. Out in governor declared disaster area. All the roads were blocked. Artists were being flown in and out on by helicopter. It was it sounded like a war zone. Yeah on the new talk on. This was on the Friday night. The first I had the festival was. Can we do to play on Saturday on still in Connecticut preparing thinking? Well how we can get now. They've blocked the road. Because we've never just the anyway so to this day just said that while we should all driving with jumping the Volkswagen. We so we went. We went to would stop in a Volkswagen beetle and Herbie went to woodstock and he went of Clinton when it comes will roadblock or anything on that we just grow drove up the cross villages around the round them and people just wave through but it was chaos but it was a kind of wonderful kyle. You know when you go to those events you WanNa do is a great show right and when you turn up to do to show and we turned up to seven o'clock at night I get onstage till five o'clock everything you have an engine to eat drink lice to it suddenly other the becomes very difficult to to kind of do the show you're capable. Yeah so I never. We have a great show at stop. We did show. Yeah and I said the promoters tried to screw you didn't they well the promoters pay anyone They didn't want to but we had to get by because we you know it costs money to get there and it was going to cost us money or let's put it this way. We'd have to learn to do a lot of swimming to get back fast forward to the early eighties Keith. Moon passed away rather tragically. And you say that you impede had been expecting that day to come for years when it finally happened. How did the two of you process that? It was hard to say the least but in an stay with us the music scientists wrinkled what what what do we have left because walls you you you you What we created and what we realized very quickly was the whatever keith created in his life existed mostly in these music in the music. We played with him on the drums so it became caught off after we kind we. We don't get over the grief of that for years. I'm not meet knees Who's he was such a character but we had the music and that's what drove assault and it was the same thing when John Died. The music was all important. What we were given the gift of create together Comes first in Pete had said the WHO was four people who never should have been in a band together and yet you guys. The four originals lasted for a really long time for a rock band. I is that what you would attribute that. Says we should never been in a band together. But that's because maybe maybe to make the kind of music we will make him. Which has its own special kind of algorithm. The the something about who music is so unique? Oh yeah and it and it. And for instance when Kenney joined the band off to Keith died. Kenny's a fabulous drama. But it just did not work with. Yeah and I say that northern insult to Kenny is just is algorithm was different. I mean just. It would have been similar. If you put faith moon in the faces it would have been. You've got him magic mood in that I think no longer being a fund sing along sing along vices ban would going on here so you just similar thing. We've seen in Kenny. And the WHO? So you sound like it's people have said you know we would never put us for people together. But maybe that's where greatness comes from his window you tight enormous chances with characters in four completely different characters Alpha miles. Oh kind of a very quirky in in in different ways and but it worked and we created something totally original. You know if if you put for people who you would expect to be in a band together you get what you expected. And it will be dull. Yeah nothing surprising. Nothing was offering Alabama friend like that. After Keith died you guys took a break for a very long time and then I guess it was somewhere around the late nineties that you finally reunited and in one of the crazier stories in the book. You say it was all because of total con man. Who was this guy? Oh God we got an offer come through for ridiculous amount of money to me two or three million dollars to do one show in Las Vegas but if the WHO appear with one caveat. The show was to be staged to promote a company. How cold help me help me out. it was. I think it was a TECH COMPANY RIGHT COMPANY. Yod right and and so this go ahead. This company was the apparently was going to be doing early streaming on the Internet way back in in nineteen thousand. Nine hundred. Ninety sounds promising. Yeah and of course it did. It was three million dollars two million dollars or some extraordinary amount of money. But with the caveat that one of US had to go down to this big Tech Conference on the south of France and talk about this company and Pixel on. This was good and talk about the The company and what I I'm to do. Of course we want to do that. He wanted to do the GIG FOR MONEY. But he didn't want to do the schlepping down the south of France and do spiel so so I went down there and suddenly realize I you know I. I didn't have a computer. I knew nothing about tech industry. It's old I looked at the knows. She's right and when I went down there was like a site with bulls the early days of the DOT com bubble. And I was talking to all these people talking over this stuff though. I didn't understand but he also sounded like cobblers to me. You know I can talk. Cobblers Arkansas culpas. So I made went out and did did did the speech to to sell this. Pixel we can. This is going to do this and win the Bam wit stew dish and the get win the bandwidths get bigger pretending to know about bandwidth ziani bandwidth. I knew was the band's with us so anyway so I did that bit and I go he. I don't build everything was up front. We went to Vegas with. Did the GIG paid everything fabulous on the same thing. Syam Event Aerosmith was on the allows bans huge bans. Then it turned out about three weeks later. Go have been arrested. If you have been pipe buddy-buddies time. The whole thing was a confidence trick. You know the Las Vegas job. Yeah he was a guy he just wanted to have a huge party on the dot com bubble and actually did make any money out of it. You just wanted to have a party pay. Who CARES ED? Whatever and the band got together because of that real quickly before we go. You're not twenty years old anymore. What kind of toll does it take? When you're touring these days so nice Oh Ryan. Colin do what I used to do. I've got no. I don't do as much physicality bodies been wrecks. How many dogs how many car crashes bangs scrapes and United Breaks equally? Castillo swing the might when I want to. I don't need to do it now. More into making our music better than said the bean the muse. Because that's going to be. Our legacy is is Townsend's music and I want to just get people to hear it as good now as it ever was if not better in different forms so that's my mission now And at the moment was still doing that if I have come off stage and think i. I'm not delivering it. In the way it should be delivered because there is an energy who has to be there. Yeah and if that flame ever leaves me I will stop. I won't cheat. My public is too important to me because then then you're just darling in and I've seen a lot of benefit to that and I love. It is an insult to the audience. And it's an I. I remember. This is a kid of fourteen years old saving up for my Saturday job. Two Gallon Sea Cliff Richard and the shadows empire in those days and that ticket cost me a of money An IRA brilliant that night. An- An- I realized in that when you look at an audience stays in his privileged position that we occupy every one of those people what they've gone through to put they bumble Nazi. You owe it to them to be there and if you you deserve kickin ass band kicking. You can't say that you don't give your fans. Their money's worth once again. His memoir is called. Thanks a lot Mr Kibble white. My Story Roger. It's been fun. Thanks for sitting down. Thanks again to Roger Daltry for coming on the podcast border his book. Thanks a lot Mr Kibble white. My story on Amazon audible or wherever books are sold and follow the WHO on twitter at at the WHO the flattern school will teach you everything you need to work in code data science and design. You'll learn by making things breaking things and discovering how the future is being built. The results speak for themselves. Go to flat iron school dot com slash podcasts to read about graduates new careers and salary ranges and sign up for a free intro course. Enrollment is now open. Flat Iron School Dot com slash podcasts. If you haven't already be sure to subscribe to kick ASS news on Itunes and leave us a review. 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 Boris Johnsons Brexit speech: preparing for an election

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Boris Johnsons Brexit speech: preparing for an election

"Today in the second of two episodes on Boris Johnson we head to Manchester to deconstruct his conference open speech and Prince Harry goes on the offensive against the tabloid press. It's these sunny day. In Manchester withstood in the middle of the area cordoned off a Conservative Party conference on with Chris Wilkins who is the former director of strategy for the Conservative Party and a man who has been here many times and written many speeches in this exact location and for Theresa. May just tell me Chris what will the prime minister have been doing to prepare for this moment the from us there will have taken over the top floor at that hotel with his team the past few days setup electon famed practices speech and they'll be papers all over the floor printouts of the speech old old drafts newspapers all over the floor plates of sort of a half eaten room service from the past three days or so that's typically how how it works attract attract music it's going to be I know it's really difficult with the music we used to spend a long time talking about these things and you come up with all these good ideas and then the conservative conservative research department then look into the artist that you've come up with and then they discover that always they've. Martin sports the Labor Party or they've got some dodgy tax affairs or there's some other reason you you can't use them. Tory supporting artists might be rather limited but in the end they were able to find the perfect person. I'm not sure whether the WHO's Roger Daltrey is story but he certainly been an outspoken supporter holter of leading the EU Boris Johnson. That was what this was all about telling the party faithful that he is the man to get brexit dumb speech came as the prime minister delivered an urgent last ditch attempt at an e agreement that would leave Northern Ireland in parts of the single market but out of the customs union. That's Boris Johnson's pitch to Brussels in Manchester was his pitch wjr to Britain in preparation for the general election that is surely coming from the Guardian. I'm New Star today. Focus what did Boris Johnson's conference speech really mean so we're just coming into the exhibition into that leads to the main hall. There is branding everywhere that says get brexit done and Chris. You've talked about a lot of the preparation for speech but clearly as a speech writer. The big thing is what's going to be in their content wise. I mean just talk us through what they'll it'll be thinking about. In terms of getting this right yeah the effectively two ways of voicing a speech you can either take a traditional approach which is say the three things. I want to tell you then you say those three things and then you've got the things you've done. What is more maybe a display of just to find the theme? The single narratives chip's GonNa run through the whole thing and then tell a story about it and in many ways Boris Johnson is the absolute master of paintings grand narratives visions. It's it comes naturally lied to him. He loves that and what he sort of Alaska. There is some of the dito presumably the speech by the way as we're speaking. I can say transplant secretary a grandchild sitting behind Jay in a JCP dicker which is in the middle of the exhibition pulling on his heart heart and the La vast given that you said this is all about theme and this is all about narrative. What does Boris Johnson need today today. He he absolutely needs to communicate communicate beyond the whole frankly in politics. These days isn't about rational argument. It's about the movement of motion and they speak to people's emotions vay veigh effectively so get brexit. Done is exactly what people say in focus groups that we just gotta get on with this. We've just got to leave and then we can move on with all these other things and it's an emotional appeal as as much as a rational one and that's what I think that'd be tapping into with the speech today. What chain Johnson surrounded by his aides mainly man walking into the whole Valerie up Chris suggested to start Chris the last time you were here for speech that you would written the prime minister and I think I had to crawl under the table because she lost one hundred forty five. I'm the staging fellow to watch. It was remarkable day here. Just bring him back standing up to the arrival of the Covenant incrase highly stressed on long standing ovation for the cabinets as they walk in a suspect last the first so I'm that's happened to any of them. play that felt sort of slightly. North Korea the but this show I think is part of the week which is considered faulty slightly feels like it's got his party back with this firmness with this cabinet only whether you do that with no membership do feel new in tune with this company in the midst of the maybe they did last week doc Washburn Chris. What was the first the thing that struck you about the speech well. The first thing that struck me about the speech stay was that it was an appeal to the Conservative Party started talking about brexit not fade positive vision of wrecks he painted the leader of the League campaign. People want what levers want what remains the whole load wants. This is to be calmly and sensibly done with the subject and to move on and he made the point that actually that was a big vote for change and nothing has changed in the past three years so close to the past two years and sort of got back to twenty sixteen boys that is why we are coming out of the E U on October the thirty I come what may there was some clear language but what the principles behind it were protecting sorted integrity of nine protecting integrity integrity the union but it was much. We're GONNA make this brexit offer. We want to talk about it but she ten. Let's get this done because then we wanna move on it was almost it's almost a bit of problem. I'm not be dealt with than this great exciting sort of thing that we're going to seize the opportunity of and today in Brussels. We are taping. I believe are constructive and reasonable new proposals which provide a compromise for both sides and a kind of small problem in the way he put out I mean he's entering unbelievably play difficult talks with the but he said because if we fail to get an agreement because of what is essentially a technical discussion on the exact nature a future customs checks when that technology is improving the whole time then let us be no doubt conference of what the alternative is the the alternative is no deal that is minimizing the issue surrounding the Irish border chose a sort of complete lack of understanding about issues news on the island violent are but they'll absolutely a strain within the conserved party that things in that way that doesn't see this as an issue of identity entity and doesn't see this as an issue of security going back over decades. He's representing his particular strain of thought when he talks in in that way but it does Mimosa. It's really a massive issue and that brings us to a point where we're sitting. There in the crowd is obviously quite pleased with him and then he said something. I wasn't necessarily expecting from Boris Johnson speech. He said I'm going to quote that Supreme Authority in my family my mother I know that there are some keen students of alleged divisions in my family on but then actually he turned what has been quite serious family division his brother walking out of government his sister attacking him on TV into a joke saying mother voted. Leave is a strange moment. I agree. I didn't particularly expect him to talk about his way but it did gloss over what is actually quite a sort of fractured family which mirrors the the nation and I suppose in many ways. The speech was all about that. It was glossing over a lot of things that you you could go into more detail on but actually just it's all hope who is all you need. It was very grand vision as you'd expect from him but let's just have a quick chat three the key policy areas. If this was a speech for the party faithful throwing the Tories red meat. What did you see of that in the speech the NHS chest was the first big domestic policy area the NHS is holy to the people of this country because of the simple beauty of its principal what number ten no from their polling in their focus groups is that Boston since associated with two things in the public mind one is brexit and the the other is DNA because of the big red bus and the promise so they know that's an issue that they sort of not only needed to neutralize but actually I think they can win talked about how the consider party has been the steward of the just for forty four of the seventy years. He's been existence. This is something conservative member talk a lot. It really greats with conservatives when Labour's this claim to be the party of the niche because consumption of say well hold on. We've been in power from talking. We were the people who have in Jessup and they've long wanted joined claim it for themselves and tweeted me tried a little bit never that effective. He tried it today and got a huge June. The HORFORD overeat obstinate love the entire section so I got the transcript on Scrapie you had of his speech and see written the word what was that yes this slightly sort of toying line about when he was sick the whole country figuratively cavs at your bedside but way you are sick the whole country figuratively gathers at your bedside and does everything it can to make you wet again. That was little much If this is Boris Johnson returning to a more traditional kind of conservative party in his eyes then that clearly includes a big statement on crime and yes. We will be tough on crime. How important was that section. There's really important section. It was noticeable. I think that the last thing he did before he went on Stage Day was Huggy Awesome Secretary Pretty Patel and pretty is someone who performs wanting focus groups and was that's part of the reason why I think she's been given that that brief and section on stop and search was really interesting because of course par Theresa May's Legacy Home Secretary was she was the best new and did some of the policies on stop and pitch because she felt it persecuted certain sections of the population today both Johnson turned that around there is nothing kinder or more loving life saving you can do than to ask him to turn out his pockets and produce that weapon really interesting. We took this'll missile. Trees may not have been completely flipped it to make an argument for stop and search for against and stuff on the environment. It wasn't completely missing from this page. Maybe not much but one of the things I sort of noticed as I was listening to that. It was very much the environment from a business point of view one in five vehicles sold in Europe is not made in this country. It's a fantastic thing. We're going to increase it. We're GONNA extensive. BIG DEBATE GOES ON. I'm in environmental politics between people like extension belly in a central view of environmental politics actually the way we're gonNA solve solve this is by innovating our way out of it and by new technology and by Human Ingenuity and he sees that mantle today so I think I would be surprised whereas if we don't over the next few weeks see more on that in him taking ownership of the environment in a center going way in a way that I think actually we haven't seen in British politics recently recently and that brings me to the moment where I guess I suddenly stopped. Him really paid attention because it was the moment that he got the biggest chair throughout the entire speech. How are we going to pay for it. How are we going to grow the UK calling me and it was when he was talking about raising productivity the whole of the UK naught with socialism not with the deranged and ruinous plans borrowed from the playbook of Varian Revolutionary Venezuela writes this stuff presumably he might and then the one single word got out chair capitalism. Yes very depots thatcherite and totally faithful loved it and you know in the sense that whole section is looking back to the policies. It's now about socialism versus capitalism and its tribal in a way that actually hasn't been I think for for quite some time and you talk about that kind of idea of going back to the nineteen eighties. It was very clear that he was trying to contrast himself to Jeremy Corbyn Labour Party and in a very direct way right we put up wages with the biggest expansion of the living wage for generation cool been Golden Corbin taxes. Everyone we interest in this about Jimmy longtime exhibitors of not really known how to tackle Jeremy Corbyn they use missile three rules for him about sort of Soviet politics and all this kind of stuff and it didn't resonate but I think they've now got the point of view that actually they're not so worried about. Ah tackled him and all of that language when they attack him in that way is actually talking to the Conservative Party to bring the Conservative Party together because you know there are some divisions divisions in the party over brexit and over the things over the rule of law and the people who are nervous but the one thing that absolutely brings people together behind Boris Johnson is expected of Jeremy Corbyn on the horizon so all of that language deployed today was not for the country. It was not the voters it was for the Conservative Party say back me because look at the other going but for all of that this was a speech that was so light on detail I mean I've been delayed to conference beaches. I don't think I've ever walked out for more. I thought my God there wasn't a single policy announcement in. I mean to get the details on Brexit. Go and read the newspaper because Boris Johnson's not giving it to you from that stage. He was obviously peppering it with his typical times quite bad jokes. If parliament were a school off stead would be shutting it down or putting it in special. Metal's parliament were a reality TV. Show then the whole lot of us. I'm afraid would have been voted out of the jungle by Tobao Nacho Gotcha Faraj or chlorinated chicken or one point kangaroo testicles. We had the cultivation of watching the speaker being forced to eat a kangaroo testicle but this was more about emotion. It was about trying to rile people up. Wasn't it line people up but it was a- absolutely a speech that was focused more on emotion than of argument. There was no real great ideology through there was no detail somebody who spends February time coaching. Some people don't have delivered speeches. There were things I looked that will allow you know you would never do that but actually an well he would sort of crash through the applause lines and things like this and he's sort of bounced the stage was leaning on the lectern at one stage things just things that you would always advise against but the point is this is Boris Johnson. This is what you gotta do. This country has long been a pioneer. Yeah we inaugurated the steam age the here in Manchester. We inaugurated atomic age. The age of genome we lead the way in parliamentary democracy in female we'll emancipation and when the whole world that succumbed to a different economic fashion this country and this party under a female prime minister pioneered ideas of free markets and privatization that spread across the planet actually after three or more years points points of depressing politics. It's been hard. It's been a bit too. I think they calculate that sounds for people who work for now with someone who can give them a bit of hope up what he didn't mention in there was the there are a number of scandals following him around his relationship with Jennifer accurately. There's suggestions that he groped journalist. Charlotte Edwards Baz fury the way he spoke about some MP's and about the death of Joe Cox in Parliament recently. Can you just ignore that it could that starts at damage him outside of her issues like that can be damaging if you respond to them in the wrong way. Boss boss Johnson is become quite effective at doing is pivoting from those issues into things he wants to talk about and also weaponising them in in in some senses is is well if he's speaking to the sort of right wing coalition of British politics he can talk about the fact she you know you sort of they were not not allowed to say these days and it's all politically correct and this sort of stuff and that plays very well with voters on the center of Politics so I think he's taken the view. You've clearly that he's not gonNA apologize stuff. He's actually going to sort of weapon in his favor. Now that's a sort of new thing the politics we're not used to this advanced Trumpian in many ways but it's clearly the vision. He and his advisors have taken. He's walking into a period now. Our aspiration isn't enough. The next ten days are going to be absolutely critical for his premiership. You said that a speech is like a state of the Union address. Did he do enough there. And what can we expect in the next ten Sundays the next ten days the rest of this month is going to be critical time voice Johnson's premiership as he goes to negotiate with Brussels and get into some from the detail of the offer but in a sense and it sounds strange but in the sense none of that matters because this whole period British politics is about it's about framing general election and since the day boss Johnson Walk into number ten it is all about how do you frame the general election campaign so let's get on with sensible moderate one nation shouldn't but tax cutting conservative government and figuratively figuratively if not literally letter send Jeremy Corbett Corbin into orbit where he belongs but in terms of the art of speechwriting was a well written speech. I didn't think it was a particularly great speech. Not particularly well written. There were no two memorable memorable sections. I don't live long in the memory tool so as a sort of speech not brilliant but as a piece of political communication. I am probably pretty good Chris. Thank you so much thank you that was Chris Wilkins walk-ins. If you didn't catch it do listen to the first of our two parter on Boris Johnson looking at the questions around his relationship with Jennifer augury. Can I also ask a little favour if you get a chance. This is the last day to vote in the loveys. Today in focus is up for the best podcast series and you convey at they dot lovey awards dot. Edu Pretty please coming up an extraordinary letter from Prince Harry and Meghan Markle the way things are isn't the way they have to be but knowing what to challenge and how to change it is knows clear that's why independent journalism has never mattered Moo. When we are free to follow any lead eight and question any authority we can confront the status quo uncover vital tentatives? I'm bring clarity to the world's most complex issues. We can help our readers. It is understand the world together. We can fight for a better one. Hope is power. I'm with your support. You're always find it at the garden. In now on Tuesday Prince Harry launched a highly personal attack on the British tabloid press and its treatment of his wife. Meghan markle saying put simply it is bullying. He even compared it to what happened to his mother. Princess Diana the statement was published as the Duchess of Sussex move to start proceedings in the high court after the Mail on Sunday published a private letter between her and her father Thomas Markle back in February of this year Jim Waterson as the Guardians Mediator ooh Meghan markle decided to launch legal proceedings beatings against the Mail on Sunday over single-story they published in February this year which was based on a letter her father. Thomas Markle had provided to the newspaper she had written that letter. No one is species accuracy but she's going for the Mail on Sunday on the basis that it was an invasion of privacy that it broke data protection levels and that she she owns the copyright to the letter that they printed and isn't about any of the common pieces any of the critical pieces about her it simply saying this this was private correspondence and that is a much easier case to fight the letter was sent in August twenty eighteen and it was Meghan markle's attempt and to stop her father talking to the media ironically he then leaked it to the media so there's a breakdown in communication there within the family which is being played eight out on what Prince Harry and his wife decided that they can do is that they can actually take on the media directly in a way that royals previously wouldn't have had to one of the most extraordinary aspects of Prince Harry statement was the fact that he drew a direct comparison between the treatment of Meghan markle and his mother Princess Astana who died in one thousand nine hundred seven being chased by Paparazzi in Paris a one point he says my deepest fear is history repeating itself which is none too subtle missile signal that he wants parallels to be drawn with how the two women are being treated by the media. The males argument presumably will be that there was some sort of public interest showing what is going on with royals who to Sunni sent a subsidized by all of us through tax whether or not that will wash with a public increasingly turning against some parts of the media willing to criticize the takes and especially now the Prince Harry and Meghan can use social media to turn fire fire on traditional news outlets. The Guardian first reported on this back in February that she was considering legal. Action is taken until now for them to actually start proceedings the couple a couple of gone to a legal firm. Could shillings are known for taking a very aggressive stance or journalists they often send letters to people at the Guardian. When we're reporting on problematic stories involving bovine companies will high profile individuals they are the people that celebrities go to they aren't the sort of dusty solicitor that the Royal Family tends to US judges are increasingly willing to find in favor of individuals and companies when it comes to pissy cases the Guardian is increasingly finding that companies and high profile individuals own voting privacy law and copyright law to Stop Awkward Material? Getting out there so if the Mail on Sunday loses his case then that could become really problematic for journalists doing investigations that was Jim. We'll send my thanks to him and to Chris Wilkins unto John Craze for his cameo appearance this. 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Episode 964 - Roger Daltrey

WTF with Marc Maron Podcast

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Episode 964 - Roger Daltrey

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Let's do this. How are you? What the fuckers what the fuck buddies? What the fuck stirs? What's happening? I'm Marc Maron. This is my podcast W T F broadcasting from midtown Manhattan in a hotel room with a living room. I'm not saying it's nice, but it's a mid sized sweet. But I'm here for two weeks. So, you know, it's nice to have a little room sitting in a couch on a couch, and it is in mind that is the wrong fabric for a hotel room. I don't like the fabric. When it just, you know, what couches are no towel rooms, generally, not great. But I think many of you know, my feelings on that that generally if you're sitting on furniture and the hotel room, you should be wearing clothing aerobic or perhaps put a towel down. And I'm not a germaphobe. It's just that. I have to assume that if these couches could speak. I'm not sure I'd want to know. And how often do they clean the couch? I don't know. I don't know. This is an observation. I think that was once put in my head years ago by Todd berry joke to be honest with you about bedspreads, and yes, do not send me the pictures of what those. Those special infrared cameras of hotel room couches and sheets. And I don't want him. I'm here for a while. I'm Doug in not afraid of germs. I'm on a not need to know basis with what the bedding and the couches have been through. I'm just taking proper precautions some maybe maybe I won't. Maybe I won't maybe I'll live on the edge and sit on the hotel room couch with my bare. But before I leave my might do that today on the show from a band called the who Roger Daltry is here. I had a nice chat with Mr. Daltry back at the garage. I didn't know what to expect. You don't know. I don't know a lot of times from these older rock dudes. But when you really think about Daltry, whether you're a who guy you're not a who guy, you know, if you who tunes, but you also have to realize that Roger Daltry was a king among a Rockstars. He was an archetypal rock singer. He is one of the. The the guy who created modern rock singing. He think about a rock singer. You'd think about Daltry you'd think about plant that era. You know what I'm saying? So fucking whom and I talked to Roger Daltry about his book, it's called thanks a lot Mr. Kibble, white my story. And so just so you don't get let down I didn't. I didn't even think to fuck and ask them who Mr. Kibble white is. But that's my style. That's who. I am. I didn't even think to do it. It's the title of the goddamn book. I'm not beating myself up. I didn't think to do it. So. Another thing. I want to address if I could while I sit here and after telling you that the other day that I was sort of isolated here by my own doing and trying to justify it as being okay because I'm working I want to thank the people who emailed me. I do read them specially in film, isolating in a hotel room and midtown Manhattan. I'll read the emails. Thank you for the suggestions. 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Subscribe to the New Yorker and read something that means something that's twelve issues for six dollars and a free tote bag when he go to New Yorker dot com slash W Tf, enter code WTN, F A, right? All right. So the news has been rough. The news has been bad. But I feel ok today, I've processing reef panic pain horror skepticism, despair, momentary elation, there's some amazing stuff though. I read something today about that monster that shot up that synagogue, and when he was taken to the hospital a couple of the people that took care of him at the hospital were Jewish. And they did their jobs, and they did them willfully. And I read that story, and I just I just started crying. And. There is decent and spiritually grounded people and people that are bigger than the garbage culture that seems to be pervasive because of our. Pig of a president. I think the horrible thing is is the pleasure that so many of them, and I will wait them. And they know who they are the pleasure. They get out of seeing other people in pain of causing other people pain of of just reveling in in the vulnerables lack of defense against their psychological, emotional and physical brutality, they revel in it, and they know who they are and somehow or another they've framed that or rationalize that the ones that have the intellect to do. So as winning that's winning. We're fighting a fight and we're winning. And the people that don't have that rationalization a lot of them. Just get pleasure have seen and causing other people pain and exploiting and diminishing and abusing other people's vulnerability. That's how they get off. That's what winning is to them. And that's horrifying. And I think about that. And it's just. I don't know. I don't know. How you I don't know how you change that because you enter into that interaction. And that's what they're setting out to do. It's not about principle. It's about using other people's pain is strength. And causing it and defending it. And if you pushed you hard the want to 'cause it in use somehow, and they will laugh and laugh. I don't know. I don't know what to do. I hope the voting works. Give us ease up something just a little bit hope, but. I went to the theater the other night me and Brendan McDonald's. My producer and partner in this event of WT f- went to see the waiver we gallery. Kenny Lonner gins play that's up. Now, it's an older player. His and I thought it was great Elaine may was in it. And she was amazing. Elaine may was a sort of pivotal in the early days of comedy with with Mike Nichols Nichols. And may and then she went on to write movie, she wrote the heartbreak kid, one of the great sort of tragic comedies of the seventies. What a great movie, I guess, the the point whatever I'm trying to say here in coming off of what I just said is that you go to the theater, and you are in the ability of the human heart, and it's and it's a controlled environment. And it's an uplifting environment. And and it really checks in it checks you in with your humanity in that way in a in an art way, and maybe tweak your lens a little boy out in the world. As you go into the horrendous like theatre of cruelty. Theater of the absurd. Every second of the day. But I'll tell you, you know, in New York, though, I may have felt isolated for a minute and got out in the world. They did some stuff. I always think the people in New York, they may be brash, but they're decent people a lot of them. And I always once I lock in then thanks to you get out of my head and get out in the world. It's all right. It's okay. Okay. I just had a guy walked up to me on the street. He was thrilled yet his headset on he's just like, oh my God. I never do this. I live in New York. I know you're not supposed to do this. But I listen to you every day. I listen to you every day. He's all excited. It's can I can I don't do this. But can I do because selfie selfie and Mike? Yeah, man. Yeah. Yeah. What's your name? He goes, Alex. I'm mike. Sure. Made I got this. Great. And then he picks up his phone to turn on the camera, and he's got his headset in and he's listening to Rogan's podcast. I sit I say you. Because none I Josie good guy. I know you guys got your thing. And we know we don't we don't do we. I don't think. So I think we're okay now if the things that people know about us, I think no Rogan finds. All right. Good. And then we'd take the self. And he's like he says I've been a year sober. And you know, I you helped me listen to your show. I'm like, that's great, man. Thanks for saying that I appreciate it. And that happens a lot to New York is people walk by me with their heads at on. And they see me, and they go all bug-eyed, and then they point to their ear buds, and they go. I'm wasn't a you right now. Happens here that happens here. Their job sites that send you tons of the wrong resumes, distort through or make you wait for the right candidates to apply to your job. 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Ziprecruiter, the smartest way to hire. So Roger Daltry, I didn't know what to expect. And I'm I'm always surprised as I said with these these guys who've been around on time doing rock and roll, but t is not only to lucid, but very chatty. And he's got a great story because there's so much. I learned from people who grew up in England just after the war so outside of our experience to live in a country that was bombed entirely. During World War, but that did happen. And Daltry is is one of those kids that grew up in that. And it's a it's a whole world the whole childhood that is completely unique to me, and I always like talking about and I've talked about it with several British guests of a certain age. But he does have a new book out, Mr. Daltry. Thanks a lot. Mr. Kibble, white my story. That's now available wherever you get books. And this is me talking to the frontman singer of the who Roger Daltry. The headphones. So you don't really shit. When you when you're singing, you have to listen, I sound really never to talking voice token Bush, especially I you know, I I've grown to appreciate it. I don't know if I like it. But it helps me when I hear it. I don't like to listen to it again. That's the same again. No. While tapping I'm okay with in my head. He's totally different than when I hit played back to me. And it's always been that way. Always always been. But I know on when I'm doing it, right? When I'm singing when you hit it when I hit it to do with vibe. Yeah. If it's moving me, right. Then the sound of it. Well, I mean, the whole process I play music, but I'm amateur last night actually played a show with slash and quite he's great. Great gone sweet guy. He's just terrific. I tell you, man. As an amateur stepping into that world. I mean, you guys gotta hit that fucking. You gotta hit that place every night. That's your job. I don't know. How the hell you do it? My fingers hurt. And I'm exhausted. We just did it to South America last year with guns, ammos. Oh, you did. Yeah. Yeah. Kinda guy. But he never asked about guy. Fantastic. So you guys played South America three years ago. No, no last you, really. Yeah. You liked way this. Well, those those arena C fifty thousand people the rookie Marie. I was good knows how many. But we've never been to South America ever whole career. Oh, yeah. Fun. It was fun. I mean, I it was I love the shows always loved performing didn't like going everywhere in a boom proof Land Rover because police escorts everywhere, you know. Scary new scary. Just. Leads this stuff, you know, zillions have one but developed between rich and poor south huge. Yeah. But to me, the fa vase is much more interesting than the mid. The poor it. Yeah. Yeah. Sure. Real communities. Right. But it was everything else. Emplaced? She's like. South hollow? Rio every house middle class house have had Bob one fence she's rounded who wants to live lightly signed. Yeah. Yeah. Money away and get. So you haven't got these divide hit the Ida? Why is it seems to be an ongoing problem everywhere? The divide there's no middle and there's the haves and the have nots. Well, it's not too bad in England. I mean ever gonna soult it, no nature. Maybe out of a night. He ends of the week will be just as on the is now somebody. Yeah. Somebody will figure out an angle to get money back there. It's all equal except for that one guy. He's. How did he end up with that? But you grew up eating grow up. I mean that the class system you guys at least in England talk about it. We don't even mention the word class in America. There's not even a word. Well, you don't have class but use me. Well, you don't really you. Do you definitely do? But it's not talked about like that. There's no lower class. They're just people that have made it yet. Yeah. You have money. It'll you don't have money, right? All you'll black. Yeah. Yeah. That's that's why the blues spoke to us working class in England because we would we would equivalent of the black community in America were in in the fifth forty fifty sixty with buffoons civil rights right now. But you weren't as where I mean. No. But very hall to climb out of it impulsively out of it. And you so we kind of understood that. Being sweet hor and stunt. We will when we pull. Yeah. I kind of think about what we mean bought poll we didn't have much money. All right. I was I was born in Vietnam raid where we came out of the show on them came out of the shelters. Both ends of ashtray disappear. You're born in shelter. Now. Those booming host. I started to come on a railway station plan right in the tube. But anyway. But that was the world I grew up and people say, oh, you you, you know, we wound we credibly wealthy because we had. The war broke together. Incredible community and family right in numerous families. We had everybody had to share housing because housing social because so much been destroyed bombs dropping now. No, I don't remember remember the Bom sites. Right. How long did that rebel stay around? I've talked to a couple of hanging around to the sixties. Oh, yeah. Mounting gratin to my my book Covault Fulton full for that kava. Because it's so indicative of the landscape was light went on was born and the first of. Fifteen years of my life. Ing rubble smoking rubble that was slowly being cleaned up. A new house houses built. And your show indicative of of Gustaf mexica who's the guy who who who really pioneered old destructive. So kind of thing to get this. She's really does some who will all about where we came from what we're all about. So Gustav what's his last night? Misc-? He was the pioneer of Pete go into school of of old how destructive things that on their own to give you have to destroy to create. And that was that was it was at the core of Pete's creativity. Well. That they were in school. He's all referred to. That's where the kind of destructive element of the guy. No kidding. Yeah. So your dad was in the war. My dad was in the army. He was gonna or Bouma deals. I called it in those days. He he wounded on on. Yeah. Because of the landing craft on the beaches and blown up the Bom. Wounded and he had the shrapnel in him to die. He died. I didn't get etiquette allowed everybody. And he wasn't even around when you were born initially, right? No, no. You didn't meet him until you were how old? Count. Remember, how a thing I think it's kind of late ninety and forty five eighteen months, but they're getting a lotta my family coming on from the wool. But I'm sure it was my dad distinctly remember as I've written in the book the webbing on the boots the boots. Yeah. When you when you months-old into star into total cruel ING, every every boots are enormous and the soldiers in those days, you said webbing on on their leggings. Yeah. Remember the teen helmet on the rucksack. Remember the family being around the room? Where we used to live in shepherd's Bush chase round the you the whole family cheering us. He came in. And this pick me up. Ended up sleep remote. Mom. You can imagine. Sudden is you know, you've been with your mother through a lot. We were evacuate to Scotland to strand raw we we shared a house with two families of a full bedroom house. Yeah. The family that on the house already sharing with another family, and they took out seeing guy about so room. My mother her sister and three kids, it's unbelievable room. So that's that's the kind of first I team months of my life. And that's an enormous blow tones who sleeps with mom. Who are you who you by place in the bay? But that's at community. You're talking about that everybody really showed up for each other. When you say poor now, credibly wealthy. Sure. We have any money. Yeah. We had enough to live. We had no luxuries food was rationed. Yeah. Ninety forty five was the worst year of the whole year when the war end is there the food ration in England who's cut to the worst ever been because we have to share what meager rations we had. Yeah. Which incidentally on a deer of what it was one pound of quarter of meat would be for a family of four for a week. That's crazy. Oh, yeah. Everybody was sort of thin very. Leeann extremely. Thing is. An coast win the war finished what little food we had in Britain. We had to share with the gym and people who even more devastating were they were worse off. But there wasn't a feeling of tension or anger resentment or just a you. You couldn't mention a German naming my house probably into the kind of seventies. Oh, and and the Japanese little don't even go near the Japanese uncaught. Understandably, I'm sure the Japanese had the same thing about the Americans. And the Germans had sorta talk in the book about how once you realized that they were equally devastated in that. You know, they were just people that there was some sort of understanding at least would give when you win a winter Germany for the first you meet the gentleman's face to face, and these people have been kind of. We've been told horrors. Yeah. And everything else. And when you read the history is kind of horrific. He suddenly realize why were we have a fighting? Now, if we get manipulated to be doing that. That's what happened but human nights just since repeating itself. That's for sure. So you're dead where he came back now did 'cause I in the book, you talk about a bit about how he lost his brother right in the war. My dive lost his brother in in Burma. Yeah. He's young. He's younger brother L. I think he was on the River Kwai on. So who knows how he died. Yeah. I mean, I don't know that was horrendous here. But then when you read the history of it, the Japanese was tough on their own. They were conscripted at the age of twelve right to die for the emperor brutalize from a so yes, it was brutal. And that's what happens when you try and able to be brutal. And you you got the feeling that your father just never quite recovered mentally. I don't think many people really really did. Now that generation. Talked to go. My of my said, we're has really get on with your payments. I all talk about this kind of sense of distance. So yeah. And that was. You know, you can understand they are suppose. I mean from his mother to die. She died if there was ever a thunderstorm. We will be thrown under the table we screaming Comanche. No kidding. Because she was back in the Bowman. I can't imagine it. I mean. Never went away. And I I only hear about it from guys your generation British guys talked to Eric idle Roger waters, I mean guys who aren't into it. Yeah. Then I can't even fathom it that it was. I don't think people really realize just how leveled London was in England just bombed his shit. Yep. Held out. We held out for those years on our own church was gonna hold out. Hit. Yeah. You know when the Brits get their back up. So when did you start like finding interest? Do you have siblings? Right. I have sisters. And when did you start sort of realizing that that music was the thing that wasn't until we had was always music in those days and the great thing about that period. If you wouldn't he'd anything you got to make yourself. Do it yourself, right? And then of course, to get through the wool people who sing. Oh, yeah. You know, when the bump in the right started people used to start singing and the land of the booming the more they used to sing. What were they sing old kinds of their will? There were no phones roll out the barrel. You know, any of those con. Get your mind off it get loud and could never understand it Maury bummed. This. The moment we saying that was your big weapon. But you can understand I suppose, you know, the general now boming everywhere you want win when I was young. We would be singing of postman would sing the Milton would say the people in building. So sing. Yeah. To hear all the time. You did in your Grammy. Not molding you do today. I guess I never hear anyone singing today on the street. No, they're they've got their headphones on singing. They don't know that anyone listening on the street. Yeah. A little bit between the phones and the headphones. It's a little scary. Scary. Terrifying. Life down is looking up. It's true. I've noticed that. It's the biggest addiction. I mean, it is the Sasha logical ramifications of this gonna be or as to do we make it through. We'll see this might be the last lot the way out he made it under the wire. But so everyone singing, well, that's pleasant. But when did you like what kind of anyway, then we go at first TV? Which was a Condie twelve inch screens. Yeah. Musicians in your family, or no, no, my my my mother's, brother. Yeah. Pedro played drums in traditional jazz band. Oh, yeah. You know and the game playing playing trad jazz, let New Orleans gut check. So he loved Hank Williams. So does a tuned to music because on the radio they would have pro when I first got my first job in the laundry when I was twelve to get some money to buy the bits tonight. My firstly tall. There was there was music on the radio all day. I used to have things like world because Plato him where everybody in the factory would sing alone to the radio. All my it really was thinking it was humbling evil. Wait selling. But then we first TV which was a twelve inch black and white set. When you see twelve inch today is about as well. It's it's a phone that following these. It was this thing was magical one dia. So this guy, and he was making a noise and singing in the this, look, and it was Elvis Presley. Wow. Interesting Elvis, really knocked you guys really not to sound. So we'll rush for the wheels. Well, we wanna look like that no way. Could we Andy Greece or any brew cream to have that? So we will rush to the ball from soap. Just the wicked. The same job. We have very clean air. So. Of course, also we looked like overseas. But equally that just seem crested indices wishes our new Khanna music. This foot is fifty seven fifty eight fifty probably fifty six fifty seven. And then then anyway, very soon after that. Yeah. This other guy comes on the TV is not like Elvis, Tokes Elvis was cooled call it turn on. He had that kind of what what would you let Cecchi out on charter, skin jackets. Oh that suits yet. Yeah. Yeah. Remember that? And I was baggy trousers buttons. Yeah. Yeah. Leg waggling. But then Lisa. But then these TV and he's wearing a DJ dinner jacket. What should Chris what show and Dickie bow tie? You know, just up. A pro function MIR who is at it was lonely Donnegan, and he's planning to Koos tick charges like ovaries these guys really seriously playing the thing Wani Kent, and he's singing these kind of songs was were early American folk songs. Midnight special bring little wolf Suvi. Yeah. Ham aches do kind of giant gang song. Like lead belly stuff? It was the way he sang it. And it was something in the way Loni sang, unlike Elvis, primal. That's why I wanna do an I can do that. I already knew who sings I've been in the church Kwara around about seven years old. Yeah. The one thing that that kind of stuff, right? But learning inspired me. He threw his head back, and he just let himself go, and there was a kind of freedom belted out. Yeah. And that Goatley that primal, it's interesting. So it wasn't. It wasn't the sort of. Kind of revolutionary vibe of rock and roll. It was really the deeper sort of seem seemingly more on. I mean. Welcome roll them was Bill highly that was Elvis Richardson shop in the background, but we hadn't heard the move. Yeah. In britain. But it was it was doing you'll remember music was very much controlled by the BBC in those wait until someone brought the records over America. We had a white for for that. Unfortunately for us. We had a little geo is in the country. Yeah. That's right. That's one we had a lot of black Geel as the blues over on all that stuff. So when you first started out, so the thing that moved yours folk music, and that's what you started to play. Or did you what were you playing play skiffle saying about the thing about what lonely was playing? Yeah. We could all have a. Have a go at it. What is exactly those early songs in? Improvise, you know. For by. She had a teach us to wooden books of imply would about cube about two three foot, right and the shrink and like room stace string broomstick on you. Put your own upstream to get let it go for a loan played world that concern every bit as good as a pro- proper by in. Did you say you were lights our ability? It's off in the photo by one someone from my father's place place of work. We want to copy a Spanish Utah kind of looks at it until to that through that go to Qatar. Yeah. Some plywood cut it out. Glued it altogether in wild seen. This thing was my. Trimmed with a pen north round the rough way join the solids, but then some Sam pipe wound. Looking quite good. Some button polish for finish. And it sounded okay chanted. I dunno could enough over probably all about to me it sounded like what I won't. It was a towel. I didn't know anything about inter nation. I didn't know anything about the the I copied this guitar. Well, I didn't understand about you know, the way you have to just the bureau. Could choose the thing in the same way as other talk OB Choon. The action of it would have made a better cheese cutter. Ever guitar would've ever been. But I could could learn three calls you needed to play most of the songs of the one the four five which was E M B said, and if you could play it three calls, you do most of the gift who songs so immediately. Then you start a band out of people. Someone gets teach us bison I stopped playing vice. Yeah. And then someone else goes and gets gets a washable with with hubcap for a symbol. And you you. Yeah. You just might knows. We'll start singing you sing the harmonies. And there were good skiffle bands. They what bad skiffle bands. But they were skiffle bands on every street. So wonderful wonderful time. Yeah. It's it's sort of amazing that that the part of the Crafter the appeal of the music is that because whatever your economic standings where you would go out and you'd find or create the instrument, and he'd just get into it. When you growing up new society that's been level. You've got no choice, but to build RIA, and there's plenty of of of junk around to build things out of I would imagine. For the junk was destroyed. Nothing. That's highly imagined. Hubcap chair. Is going to be hubcap hubcaps in bul bearings. Yeah. So how long now when you were were you working as well? When you're in the band nano that this was my first guitar was was about the age of twelve if between, Lebanon, twelve you're working at the wandering and. The new year get the money to buy the else for it. And that gets all lasted about six weeks. The one thing. I caught run not being being being any kind of carpenter. What so ever never ever found anything like this life? I had no idea how to join the neck of the to the body of the detail. Right. And felt it up six weeks dean completely useless here. But I got lucky that my uncle was was was a skilled craftsman carpenter. And he watched me struggling making this thing, and let me get on with it. But he was so impressed. I'd actually built something that worked and herbal. I was doing with it. He said I'll help you do the next one. So I made the next one with the help from my uncle show me how to join the neck to the body. Yeah. We didn't know anything about Trump's roads through the next the next right, right? Still didn't quite understand intonation. But the second. Tall was productivity. Five hundred percent in the first one and it lost it for probably about eighteen months to. Yeah. Economic and that guitar lashing. Certainly lasted me to into my fifteenth year. Maybe two years that guitar and your what primarily playing on the street or where were you playing youth clubs? Yeah. You're clouds. We. Invited to competitions. Always the best skiffle banding in Hammersmith. We won a competition. Once who was in the van with you. How many people it was? It was self those who became out first drama Harry Wilson on drums. Reggie Chapman on on the chest base. A moody was on the wash boot because he looked great. It's hard to agreed with a wise or. No. But we didn't care what he played because he looked cool. Right. But he was one of those guys. Coolness about every. Tell you man, if you can look cool with a washboard. Do you really got something? Anyway. So will you supply we occasionally kinda also would you come and play at wedding. And then give us a drink at the end of the night. And I'll give us a few. So that was good. I can't it's so it's. So that whole sound in that whole setup. It sounds so primitive. But it was popular. It was popular. And you remember those days. Getting back to the fact that music was everywhere every power pulse that be someone on a piano and sure enough usually most especially the weekends for the Friday night to Sunday night lunch. Friday evening to every Saturday lunchtime sat in on Sunday lunchtimes. They'd be singing and the piano guys of most pubs in the area knows it was important all those little old fashioned cuddly. So is important to the to the mental health of the culture. Well, the booze. Yeah. We hope that Koussa music. It's this suddenly wonderful happens. When you sing in groups seem together. I mean, we know now going to costings together their Hoppy coach down to the same rhythm. But when I watch like he's made a physical stuff, you know. I think so when I go watch a musical like, I don't go see a lot of them. But even if it's happy I'm crying because it's so the power of so many people singing is really emotional. That's that's what we Brits don't quite understand. Hopefully, you will get it. And what because you've titan on quite big in this country. Which is great beer is the most you of it. Yeah. Yeah. Knocks your football to a high hat. But what you what you haven't got yet? But hopefully, you will hear you haven't got the anthems and the singing because English crowd sing when you sit in a crowd watching a soccer game in England. Yeah. And the crowd singing just wonderful that noise fifty thousand people not all singing the science saga. Even just the noise of voices doing that extrordinary. I that have you had that happen when the who's been on stage of closer we have. I mean, we we played Mexico City. About four years ago. I time again, we being to Mexico. A nine hundred thousand people shout out with a winning anybody. We've never been to makes you thought that. Yeah. Very by this nineteen thousand people place was sold out. Yeah. Nice saying of louder than we were playing new every word. It was extremely that. I've I can't even imagine it. So when does rock and roll start filtering in and also like where you were like the thing. I find fascinating about talking to you guys of of this time in in one in England is like there was once rock and roll started to happen in the blue started to happen. You all kind of were around. Right. You saw each other a bit. Yeah. That's much lighter on now. So how? There's a big kind of growth pattern there. We then we then we started to hear the every brothers after skiffle. Yeah. Buddy. Holly. Yeah. And then then those other Royal was they'll Shannon. Oh, yeah. So so we kind of kind of pop group anything in the child's we were expected to play. So you give me all. All went from playing an acoustic Spanish guitar had to might my first electric guitar you made it. Yeah. Made it another one you just making guitars. Well, yeah. That's how you can afford to buy one. We bought a house for the same price offended guitar, right? Insane process you made an electric guitar accompanied. A Fender Stratocaster. Because the first friend Stratocaster came over in the late nineteen Sixty-two. It was almost like something land from our by. We looked at this thing. Hang in the shadows who's playing and it was making a sound that was so unusual. Saying thing is buddy. Holly had one two home is this Utah. Go to have one good to have on. But. Go on. But like I say you could have a house right cheaper than the towel. Yeah. So I went to. Oh might one. I was now working in the metalwork factory. We had been cheese in souls. Could do more than I ever could them. And so I went up to London. One in shop window in Charrette cross road and gas and rough mid measurements through the window. Bitar Ogle in it. I mean drooling. Yeah. The mouth. Built this Utah. Mahogany. Yeah. And it looked just like offend. I had sprayed gripe pink. Just like a pink that fend for pica's. I had a friend who worked for an electric guitar company burns guitar tells who just down the road from where I worked in Acton. And you know, he got. Yeah. You know, it was not one time out the billion Johnny cash. So the pick up immense. We manage got the proper machine heads and on my destroying, and it looked just like a friend. Fender guitar only. There was a little kind of snag that my friend guitar with just about. A lot bigger than the good. The window have been magnified Elizabeth and it weighed a ton hiding. Yes. But it works and it sounded okay? And we thought we could then go onto planes, some real proper wrote music pop songs rock music. We have one m everything went through one m. No Martin sang loud voices from and you're working you're doing Joe's doing clubs hearings. Then as that progression drone who might his first base. Guitar John Entwistle's zone was so he made his first base to he made his first bass guitar. I love this this whole element of of host for England could tell it's quite coma. Squat richard. I talked to him. I didn't know he made it. Yeah. A few of St. we will we will hungry. Do what we dreamed of doing for the rest of our lives and the idea of getting a new one just out of the question. Couldn't forget it. Yeah. Unless you up the Bank. Yeah. So what? So you Where'd you meet him on the street and I'd seen him at school because he was both him and peop- most same grammar school year younger than me. But you couldn't hide either of them in a crowd of thousand people. Yeah. Because I just had something about them. Pete overstay from his from his nose down because. And we were so skinny Joan had this strange walk. But he had this kind of Johm Johm Wayne woke. So he's he he stood out to him on the street and had a chat with him. Look. He's homemaker tall, which was much more rudimentary, the my my ones. Yeah. L? Should we'll, you know. Should we'll, you know. You in a band, you said track band, we played trad jazz, play Trump trumpet, most of on just learning this thing vice? We're looking for is player you want to be in my band. Wasn't no. Well, you know, getting paid you'll end I'll say we all. And that was that. But we. And that was that come to rehearse and you kinda of to rehearsal, and he was caught oversee a talented going. And you're playing. Buddy. Holly, buddy. Holy every brothers. Anything seemed to charts. Anything and you're seeing it on singing some of it. We had a singer who wanted to be Cliff, Richard. Everybody wanted to be the English Elvis. Yeah. Pathetic refined the cliffs attaching because he's a good singer. Now, why was he ever gonna be over? Right. Most we focused on playing at the time. Yeah. Mostly playing but. And we had the singer and he would do. He would do most of the singing do some of it. So you pull Entwistle and comes in and the guy who's rhythm play at that time. I used to play legal. Yeah. It was owned by Sinn rhythm player was the guy who owned the emp. He wasn't very good in June. After that six weeks said, look, you know, we're going to get any way with with Rachel on the rhythm. But I never really rhythm pledged to money for your. Troy, so I'll say now, let's give him a try along comes pay how and to his credit. Rage was very gracious and bowed out. But still meant this the emperor wall. Wow, that's good. And immediately came in. It was quite obvious from his ability on that guitar. Did he ever real good hardy making no he had he had the neck? I don't know how this happened. What he had the neck of a tall a really crappy body. So I made him a new body for the for neck that was a really good. Yeah. But he kept for a while. But immediately was very obviously talent was extraordinary because he was playing cooled shapes that we'd never seen of. Yeah. And he's rhythm playing because he's in the jazz van Joe moon was a banjo player. So as string banjo players. So those things impede. Early on it. So very early on. Obviously, this guy was something special. Is he playing open tuning or is he playing standard tuning standard in those days? But he just had a feel for it. You had a feel for it, shall we? We went on that. And we we got some bigger equipment. We didn't get very good equipment. But we might look big because who's that imaging those days, and he's still playing covers. We're playing covers anything will requested we managed to get a job. An American air force base officers club in baseball in London every Sunday afternoon. Yeah. And of course, the geo is little would be requesting who music we'd never even heard of here. So we were then expected the next week to figure out what we might lose the job, you know, Johnny cash. Oh, oh, you name it. Chuck Berry three had to go. Better. Go find it and learn. Yeah, we do versions of it. And I just appreciate that. You appreciate you that you try though them. That's not cool. Within a very show spice of time out. We progressed immensely. We doing royals are used to sing ROY orbison. I used to sing the del Shannon. I'd encourage credible range I used to seeing Johnny cash. Yeah. Calling couldn't do that stuff. Yeah. That's when I started to become a singer appropriate singer. Well, those those are good ones to learn from nobody. So when when did you start like 'cause I didn't weren't you guys focused initially on a more arm be stuff? Now, the all can then on the arm. Be stuff didn't come until nineteen sixty Vigliotti sixty three the thing that was the big impact. Still remember the first time we all heard love me do the Beal boy that was the key key in the mission. Yeah. Of that creative to write to start to start doing written. Yeah. What was that sixty two? That was love me do late sixty two sixty three. On the on the. On the title of that. A friend. Tom ROY at school who had all this book. Dylan the guy with the records. He had a guy would erect Ataullah Jimmy read only hookah. Yeah. You know, Allie move letting Hopkins all that stuff here. I would ask when we start to listen to it. We didn't play much of it kind of places we were playing people want to dance to have what was in the top twenty. That's what we were doing. Immediately wanted to stop playing these bluesy stuff. Yeah. At the same time is that we saw go Eichel Johnny kids. Yeah. Gyco Johnny Kidd and the pirates. Yeah. And joining kid was was. Had a free piece band. No with them tall league. Vice drums and singer. Little interesting trio might more money. We started to do Johnny kit. Covers. They were kind of like halfway between the blues and pulp and because you tight rhythm guitar away. It was the perfect thing for guitarist lack of pates to become. He's a he's he's mean. Full flower. Right. It was the perfect vehicle because he really kinda rhythm rhythm. Yeah. And then you could go from pre some kind of sallow and expand on it. Yeah. And so we we started to do Johnny Kidd covers and we will join kid mimic band. But it used to go down. Great. And I could sing the shit out of that. Yeah. And then slowly. But surely we start introducing I only wolf. They always thing. And you're living in wanted. We worked at time where we live in living in London. Yeah. So like at that time like were you see in the stones around? We've seen any of them around. The stones had their first hit and sixty light sixty three. It was very sewn comb camman. Yeah. Yep. And they were playing down the road from us. They used to play the same clubs. Yeah. On a few occasions. We supported them as their support. And of course, we saw the most to be good friends upon Brian Jones. Yeah. Was he a good guy? Really nice go. Great with Brian. What about Terry Reid? Terry. Now it didn't. He was Scottish when the was. Yeah. Right. I mean, you can still see the chops. Oh, yeah. He go. He's the one who taught me about this that you know, like in London at the time that the booze guys they were the pop guys. But there was also this kind of white arm be trip going on that there were real soul singers in Britain at the time. I didn't know about that was Stevie. We moved to. Go. Chris follow. Gyco Georgie fame Zoot money. There's only. Yeah. It was really good stuff going on and coast. What what? What happens but them doing that is? All just like Sonny boy Williamson and Jimmy Reed. And John Lee Hooker Halley move. I always to come over to England on Nyquil believe it 'cause he will treat it like king. Yeah. Night come from the south, right? Where you know. What would we know what they were treated like down? They couldn't believe they just loved see him. But I used to come out and jam with us real. Yeah. Sonny boy Williamson quite a few shells. You the Malky no kid can do is. If we're looking to sign out. Must've must've been amazing. Absolutely amazing. So what what started the the sort of the shift into like right in your own work right near on stuff that that was caught current becoming obvious when we? We go into ninety sixty four. Yeah. And we go recording contract, and we had a new manager who the meeting. Yeah. Who recognize the fact that you know, too, many stuns lookalike bans of which we will want. Yeah. This. It's all about image of done their image stones have done their image. But this is new thing coming going on which I was very aware of because my sister younger sister, Carol went out with with considered to be one of the first mobile I ever saw here, and he came from a place in London called Lucia. He had a scooter, and he had used to he used to wear these kind of herringbone tweed, very very tailored, very wide of the bottom kinda Bill button. Trousers PVC jackets. Unlike anybody on the street, and that was the first mode. I have ever became aware of Pete meeting. Convinced us that we we had John's if we. Things a little bit differently. Especially look we could become the band for this for the March for the modes wouldn't when did you pick up moon? Did I miss that? Where you did miss either. He kind of flew in one night. Neck cat. Well, he just turned out the front stays hearing that we'd we were looking for drama. We'd sacked out drama where we were looking for someone. Yeah. And he played in a band that was doing beach boys songs. Yeah. I met imagine. You know, this is going to Wimbley in London in nineteen sixty three late sixty three beach, boys. Is it so juxtaposition dingy griot? Authored Saudi California. But anyway, moon just loved each music did. But yeah, he turned up in front of the stage. And just said, I can you know, here you're looking for drama because you cannot have a try because aunt and play button and the guy. Immediately, though hokey. And. He on this guy's drum kit. Go icon client Condie. Let him use them. We played version of voted road runner. Yeah. Which kind of started, and it was great. Really good kick off the. Yeah. But in halfway through this Pete was starting to get into the early kind of feed Becky type solo here really stretching out a winning. Compete went into this in in in roadrunner. Moon kind of doubled up the beat. And it became it. Was it was really like starting up gingy. Yeah. All of a sudden. Would you cool it out algorithm? Yeah. The existed between the four of us. Was found and it was it was we kind get really completely different way on one. Tune yet. Immediately. At the end of the stone. He broke in by Speidel. Radiantly? We should've known that should have been the ward into. What would you have done? Anybody come to rehearsals, he said he was never asked to join the band nothing. Asking common loan to rehearsals was pretty much. I'll get to join the badger. Yeah. Yeah. But he just brought this whole other element in him and him and Pete fed off each other. And I guess John too. I mean, oh, yeah. And like when you think back on that time. Do you miss? You miss Keith mission cool side. Do you know is the pope Catholic Kusei missing? The funniest man of element in my life. But he was all he could also be a nightmare. Really? So everything about kief was everything about his personality every side of it was was enormous. Yeah. Could be the most loving the most hateful spiteful. The most caring the funniest the saddest. Yeah. He was a real books of chocolates. So so after you guys like gel like that, you realize the possibilities, and I guess I guess Pete was like, well, this is the window. This is where I can really I can work with all you guys, and we can all work together and take some chances. Well, you. Yeah. We need to get an original shown to do. We went. We went to this guy's house who had shoes blues collection. Yeah. Try to find a stone that we would make for a potential single here. And we found. I think it was only hookah song got love if you want it if you moan bay. Yeah. It's great and leading swim Harpo slim hobby. Oh, that's yeah. Memory of me. These comes through. Simha less right, slim Harpo. That's right. Pete meeting sit down with become through those lyrics. This is going to be a month song. So basically plagiarized it. He's just to melody and rewrote this song. On the face, which was a multi. Be a facial snappy dresser. Yeah. Yeah. Style thing. Yeah. And so that became singles a group called the high numbers, which he convinced we incidentally, the band. We were though. Yeah. We were the tools that was the first one was the first name, then we were the who. Yeah. Then Pete meeting convinces to become the high numbers the high numbers to be this mode band. Yeah. After the hoop. You had the who before the high number that. Yeah. So we said. Became the high numbers. And sure enough. What it did it saw it to attract this model? We saw in the face record. Plus fat bodies time is into the full feedback. Right starting destructive buying into speak. Yes. No destruction yet. But really getting some sounds very very unusual to sounds Jimi Hendrix copied off of him. He became of more famous than he was I was so what happened that were you at that show when Hendrik showed up to would you want in the first time he went to well Hendrix, was we we. We were supposed to have forty percent of track records. Yeah. Not that we ever go anything. But I mean. I have a letter from Chris Stemp? The for the label which was the label which Jimmy was into in. So technically, we should've attempts. We never saw her up LA Di penny anyway. But I heard that when he came like who's talking to might have been Terry read about that the first performance that Chas who is who is the guy from the. The first one that blazes. And we will everyone was right. It was just stunning. He go to that place anyways. And he was at the back at the bar and Hendrix is on stage and Brian Jones came through the audience of the bar and he walked up to Terry Reid. And he said, it's terrible. If there the flooding and Terry what are you talking about the water on the floor interior? What are you talking about all of the guitar players crying? They're all crying. That's froyo draws. Yeah. I know. It was stunning. I was glad I wasn't. It gets player that diet. He will stunning. He was stunned by Clapton was there and page. Everybody's there was there was Evian's there. What was Pete's reaction? What was your reaction? I was just amazed at this guy. So prime such great shown here, and and the bam was algal Mitch Mitchell on the drums and no reading on the Bice, and I don't get enough credit because again, how they manage to find that chemistry. Those Jimmy Jimmy could be incredibly unpredictable when he's playing. Could be playing one thing. One minute. Switch on the blink of an eye of Brown. Yeah. Yeah. But those guys would stay with him every bit. Yeah. Yeah. But you guys do we do it too. Those who guys kind of never got any credit tool, but I were incredible vanished. Mitchell's drumming was phenomenal. Yeah. No ratings vice plan, you listen to he sticks with Jimmy every the way. Yeah. Amaechi I'd seems I keep is is similar in terms of his momentum. And how he'll play Mitch came from the same area of us. We. In london. We we knew guys Rony would cause number any Rony would since he was fifteen years old. You. Was he always say he's always trying. He does a lot of. So you knew the faces and all those guys. So, but I imagine that when Edrich came that was a big kick in the ass to everybody on some level did have an impact where you like we got a cool shit have impacts impacts on everybody equally. You know, what you're going to get near to what he was doing shirt, but call angry because he he had the feedback thing the feedback thing and guitar on the, you know, the. The oh off into the speakers Pete was doing that for years before. And you can imagine it must have been bit early. Jimmy, obviously seen it somewhere or Chaz told him about it. Right. Right this. If you do this, you'll do it. Him and Jimmy could make something much. Kinda much more flamboyant piece pretty point it was. Yeah. But it was kind of it was. There was something sensual about it. When he did it. Rose. We will move just fear. Impo Pete's got that windmill. That's his right. All these saints shoes. No. I mean, the wind moves a bit lot. Fuck you. Maybe you're more about fuck you as opposed to someone. Fuck us. You were fucking. How about the kinks where they they were like around. I move around show. Let me get into ninety sixty full now support in people like stone. Yeah. We support the Beatles. You did where we support the Beatles at the Blackpool upper house in August. I think it was August nineteen sixty four you get along with and the kinks. This bunch of Liverpool guys to us. Yeah. Kings on the same show. Yeah. We just a few shows with the kinks. They were great great band could Sharman. Right. I was. Yeah. And of course, I had really got me and all day and all of the night singles, and that's when Pete wrote cone explain which was basically almost a kinks copy. But with lyrics were kind of from a different spice. Right, right. Yeah. Little more existential. You know, like questioning, yeah. Yeah. You gotta think about me. Clutch in your face and rightly set probably fit him with the with the Senate. Feed him with the Motiur thing. Now was starting to get into early drug scene. Right and phetamine speed. Yeah. Good feelings. Papa so anybody so that so that worked for that? And then we had the American producers show town, my who produced the kinks records it kind of. It was a hit and it will out. I hit aveer very grateful for it. Always felt that. It was never quite the who is I liked it. Yeah. He in a load of backing singers. You know that kind of. Labor cooled the Ivy league. I'm putting those backing vocals on it Jimmy page played the league tolerant because nosedives yet recalled live, and he didn't want to do these. Richard farm or regional them anything Jimmy pike where. But you went along with it. Well, we had two days. Anything recco? Might and have a chance at getting Rickman Jimmy at that time. It's just a studio game was just a shoe Joe session. And so very young. Yes. So that puts you on the map though. Right. Can put it in on the mat we go out I with the pumps. And then we go in that first TV shows, and then of course, along came. Anyway, anyhow anywhere, which again have much more of what the who world. Right. But then we had to kind of have some kind of ruling to the first record with the backing vocals, which we did ourselves. But we. Go anyway. Had that kind of repeat there. But when you listen to the to the out trove of that the record company sent the first pressures of that recall back because I thought it was a bad pressing Fulton. Why the feedback understand it? They didn't get into that was the real sound of the who in those days, which we'd never had on Cohn. Explain. Yeah. Because we'd had pages. Tidied up solo. Yeah. So that would so that's your so that that's on anytime that that one got you into your own sound. And then that led into my generation. Yeah. Substitute generally. Lisi stuff. One. Did the secret come out? What remember though that was sixty eight sixty eight seek great. So great man, it was sixty eight that guitar on that song. And you ended up at good sentiment. That's when Pete go into into kind of eastern religion family above all that stuff which owning spot told me. So that was really good period. We in between my generation and. And that that was probably the darkest period. Which what me in the for the sell out in quick one. No, no, no, no, no. The on a boy happy, Jack. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Really? Yeah. Yeah. That was a time. It was a tough time for me as a singer. I've been from now of the band of generation well that was like that came to a head because drugs, right because the drugs because we went on first European through here, and I managed to get hold of a huge pile of amphetamine together. Guys. Are you the other goes, I couldn't do them? I tried it when we because we used to sometimes play two shows a night. Yeah. You when we finish eleven eleven pm. Yeah. And then we start another one to the moon. Right. And then we finish at five here. So to stay awake. I tried them. But I couldn't sing so throat draw you up I just thought to laze can go can even do this and say, why would be shit singer. Yeah. I'll just have to Baste be tired and be. Yeah. So I couldn't do them. But the goods, right? You can take as many as your life your plan to drums plan. Rhythm a little bit. But that was the problem when we did the first two of when we did the first or of Europe like a huge part of amphetamine and it slowly progressively flew to. Worse and worse and worse than the music foster foster louder and louder was obviously on Keith. No the whole ban. Yeah. The whole band, and it was cacophony. Yeah. It goes so fast on the last show. We did in them out. I could hardly get the worst the songs. So I what I was smashing the gear up. I decided I was going to do something about it came off the stage found this stash flushed down the toilet. That's not great for people who like drugs. No. Need to free guys one. Yeah. And the one mostly was Kaethe art gab. I'm flush them at immediately came into suitcase said wish moustache. Down the toilet. And he flew with the tambourine attacked me with a time marine, which doesn't sound like very much not soft pigskin instrument, and it's going to sound thing as evil slashing at me with the bells, right, which is a whole different fair that they could have gotten edged could've Freddie, me so needs to citing giver for confi because street firing as and. And put him on the floor and the band threw me out for finding was at the first fight in the band o. Now, we'd we'd had fifty cups before. But this was you know. Now, I mean who is using the chamber rain took it to another level and. Audie sorted. Give him a good pice team. In the previous who is usually hitting each other. An hitting each other. Very rarely Kaethe. But you know, just punch in some about what? This verbal. Before around for miles here with fish, those thrown kicking in any wonder we had a few. But was it musical usually musical about. Why you know, I can't I can't remember specific thing. Is when you're that. Right. You never fight with your friends. I was never a fist guy. No, no. Verbal. Punches on the nose into verb. You woulda hit me on a clever. So exactly okay. Come here. Yes. That's right. But also very diplomatic, right? When it got when it got. Yeah. You gotta be diplomatic when it got ugly. They we do another. Maybe maybe we can meet in the middle on this. What's that's when I manage not to get hit? We'll see if we make it through this. So so what happens you got kicked out of the band, and that was kicks out in the band. Always fun about that. Well, all star disband. I'll show another one, you know. Hello was twenty twenty one years. Plenty of starting out of on noontime by now seeing records on Bill. Yeah. Although also, another one I was gonna do soul band, but they went out, and I did a few shows without me, which I gotta didn't go down. Very well. Right. I go off apparently and the management three four weeks later. Soulmate? I should. Like, I said to the band. The band. Look you go to him back because it's not working. And then I came say me, I said you go back. It's not working. They front me out. I said well have you back as long as you promise not to fight anymore. I said, okay. I'll say don't all do that. I'll say but all co back if I promise not to tight drugs before they got on the stage anymore. Yeah. I'll say I don't care what I do off was not business. But I can't be with the band who've got potentially so much talent who old out the window pumping stuff down if routes and they agreed. Agreed. We didn't have another fight them for years. Yeah. Down on the drugs today credit. I. What did after I don't know? What they did. I don't care. You know what? Don't blue Pete certainly didn't do any drugs all life route. I mean, really nothing. Only after died. I think that was just. I think that was just a loss and the grief and everything else when he started drinking what he started drinking. It was really really super clean. So what about that? Like the whole because I mean, Keith moon is sort of like known for establishing the hotel room behavior. Yeah. Very good. At that that he's one of the originators model. He just kept the show going. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Because I talked to Joe Walsh recently. Yes. Quite good. At it. I think he was one of his case apprentices. Was in destruction. So so then you entered the period where you did what Tommy and who's next and and. Tell me was the big big one that broke, you know, stool that was it. Back at industry. So we've kind really well known. Yeah. It's just a perfect time. And that you know, the genius told me love that kind from kit Lambert who always follows. Composer? Yeah. In England founded the Sadler's Wells ballet company, he always felt three minute pop song could be much much more. You say we should do don't pro because he was into Oprah into that. Right. Father did. He said you can be pro we should do don't pro. So we did a mini or prone on on the record equipped one. Yeah. Oh, yeah. That second side. And then and then we then we started work on told me which went on for about free months in the studio piecing together an addict came in time when as you know, miracle was individual home war youngsters in conscripted album. Just spiritually seemed to speak to them. Who's deaf dumb and blind? Not say, no, right. And it also came out of your childhoods to and in the war. Yeah. So. It. Just resonated them works and. Woodstock. People kind of went well. Grew and grew and grew the tough spot. It would spark stock to write anybody out of tough spoil the stars Woodstock the audience. Yeah. Like five in the morning or five in the morning. We went on. But some of them went on author who that I mean, they had it was don't you worry about that throw ABBIE? Hoffman off the stage to I didn't compete. Wonderful. Wonderful wonderful good. I'll. Yeah. Anyone else? Okay. Trapeze love of Brooklyn. We're having Abby got onto give a little speed giving a speech about Joan Sinclair seavy vibrate. Because he was Gile. Right. You know, but the trouble is you own our stage right in front of pate. Yeah. You know, we were British. Yeah. Fuck oh. That was the end of that shape. Each light. So in so that's where they blew up and everything changed and how many years after the the album. Did you make the movie? The movie didn't come to nineteen. We made the movie in seventy four came out in non anciently five. Yeah. Why? So that was it was the movie of Woodstock really put us on the map. Yeah. Right. The who which is really amazing. Brag. Really? And then who's next? I was another huge record. Yeah. Guy in the head of its time. Yeah. Didn't let number one. You know? No, no, no, people can get funding was what he's. Won't get fooled. I mean, that's huge. Yeah. We found out later. The RA who company who may nameless. But you can look it up. They were bootlegging out. They were bootlegging us out the back door. No shoot being bootlegged boy around Rick only now one that we didn't might number one impossible. I that's crazy. Yeah. To lots of it. Did that was just the business dirty basis ship business? Yeah. But he's arrived. You did. All right. Listen. I'm still here. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Gone for a very difficult period of rioting kind of. I I kind of tremors of middle aged anx creek creeping onto out we doing this and good to over a really. We will. I you. That's was so such genius about towns in he had the -bility to run about. What's going on him so deep down? But then he just threw a lot of songs at me said, I don't know if any of this is any good. Here's a loaded assumes you choose ones. Go on the Elbe, and he was totally surprised chose. Oh, yeah. Chose in some ways the most vulnerable ones wonderful songs that give you a hint of the mid laugh crushes. At thirty three. What would we not only seventy five? So Pete would have been. Pete would have been thirty so named to hit thirty three. So that's what I found so intriguing about Soanes child who's them? Yeah. And he would he's always said he said, I was I was shocked. What road you Charles? Yeah. You know? Blue red and gray right, which are just loved. Pete are done the way he would do it now. But I used to say in please Pete play blue written ground groundstaff. It's wonderful while you senior is wonderful. And he's. Fucking stupi plan them. I do. I shall a love it. Well, that's nice that their relationship was that they told you to pick him you picked him in any let you do it. Yeah. So that was that Elba. And then, you know. It was a very tricky time now career because he worked so hard on the tell me on the movie and the soundtrack Andy Noma night for an Oscar for the soundtrack. Was that the first that was the first time you acted to the first two unin coach had a bit of a break. And then when we came back to it, we did it to ninety seventy six we've turned out to be the lawsuit we'd ever do with Caithfear. And if. Costa the was bigger than ever? Yeah. Yeah. And then like, and then once you us Keith. How long did you have to like process that? Well. That was hard. But you get through it. I mean. We see it coming where we saw it coming to long. That's what made it such a big shock. Yeah. You kind of think. Well, he's got knowing ledge. Yeah. He he had no fear. I think in today's world he would have been diagnosed with cystic. And because you come because he come through it so many times L eight. Yeah. So many things we should have died. He didn't. When it happened. It was going to more of a shock. Yeah. With because you got to believing he was sort of immortal. Yeah. Anybody we you know, we put on that? You know, we can either stop boom. Treasure what we really have between us, which is the music. Which is what we did. Yeah. Was the Roger of this music. I was a singer of Johm was vice player of it case was obviously irreplaceable varick never ever in my life. Anyone comes anywhere close to being another Keith moon here. But you can replace a drama that became incredibly difficult, and we rushed into getting a very good friend of can Jones who's extremely trauma who drummed with own drumming on the Tommy soundtrack. Yeah. So we thought he'd be good. But it didn't work out. He he sense of timing wasn't quite like Alice. The only way I can explain it. Kennedy's scientic Solent. Excellent drama. Yeah. Justice putting kief moon in the faces would have been a disaster. In Kenny in the who ended didn't start out of disaster ended his like how because he's just to straight drama, but you did three albums with them or four right? No, no. We to and well, yeah. You couldn't fill like didn't didn't. Didn't see bright. You know? Did it end acrimony Asli? No. But not the fans the kind of, you know, they take sides, and I don't quite understand what you're talking about. So it felt like it was criminally there. But it was never any between Kate Kennedy. And I have never ever said he was a bad drummer. Great rumour. Yeah. He was just the wrong drama who would have been the right drummer. We don't know who would have been the right drama. We should have left the door open. We you know, you taking put Mitch Mitchell in there at the time we could have done removed the right dome. Yeah. Oh well. I will. Maybe he you correct. He would have been far mode. Right. Yeah. So when did that thing in Cincinnati happened that horrible thing that was nineteen seventy nine. So that was what he can't December the. Yeah, we're fucking day. Jesus today. I remember that would annoy it was like. Like, a global nightmare. It was it was all that anyone talked about for like weeks horrible. Yeah. We. The horrible thing for us was that we we didn't know it happened. And we played the show. We played a great show that on the reason I let us play the show. Thank god. I did because money. I mean. The paper since Cincinnati don't realize. Of gratitude they should have to manager. Bukoba -sually because the fire department and the police the accident happened on the why in oh, yeah, it was a stampede going into them going on the up to Dole's bills. General admission general Mishra and coast zoom, everyone try to funnel into this space people fell over and trampled and eleven people died. The police and the fire department wanted to stop, Sean. Yeah. But it's on the crab was in. Bill Kosheh manager pleaded with them Numa such you crazy. You know, if you do that people coming out. You'll have. Yes. An accident. Another shit driving. Right. Just just shut this door. Why off screening off and there with issue? Let Shogo on. So glad that he did. But for us. We did we did a great show that night and to come off Steig off to a great shot and be told news. You know, we live in Cates. Joy on the way to it was being hit with his Asia. Can't be in the heartlessly. But we stay in touch with the families. You do. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We do. They have a memorial from where they provoked ship one of the high schools this school of free students. Yeah. So they provide three three. Scholarships every year, and we we've helped. We've talked for them for loan time. Yeah. Wonderful people here, I've visited to back visited though I school in the summer. Yeah. So. It's so hard for us. But it's hard for us as it was for them. Real sort of defined grief. Can't. Yeah. It's it was just. You know? To lose people are voice. He just never quite process it, and you do the best you can. And we're doing the best we came to you. Can't you can't change the positive live with the future? And with doing the best. We can with that. Yeah. And what is wonderful was the people from that community, a wonderful, wonderful good. And now like when you guys like because we didn't get to talk about is that, you know. I mean, you've done a a lot of acting and a lot of movies and tell you that's my job book. You know? I didn't you know, I I've offended in love with the process, but then was already famous until me was easy for me because it was just music, but I didn't know anything really about acting. But Ken Russell that must have been nuts was not. So I mean that was completely nuts. But what a genius ho kidding. And you're working with all those those amazing musicians to like like, Tina Turner, Clagget and siblings. This one. Football. I was planning to characters deaf dumb and blind, and I was doing it methods. And I I went through that all these we into anyone hardly seen anything. I laid for a whole day under Tina Turner's skirt and for the life of me, I can't tell you one thing about the experience. Find that. I find it really lying. You're in it, you're in it, totally any. Spice because I used to have to turn my eyes off. I used to throw things at me. You couldn't have any kind of thing going on the show. Was that Puttin was Ken on you for that? Did he make did he push, you know, now, I did it? But I mean. He always always to ten types of everything. Just can't always looking for something unusual tap, the trippy movie, then but luckily, some of the stuff that was going on things flowing post my head. The camera. Read your is more than anything. Yeah. So they had to be completely glazed. Yeah. Yeah. So I just turn them off. But within white out. I mean, it's the with time when I think back to that. Yeah. I mean, I hardly spoke Margaret who's sweet woman, you could ever meet, you know, I'll just have to get my head brands and she want mum. Yeah. She's. And that's where you got the bug though, to do the acting the bug to duty, gene, also, and I'm not going to give this up, but on the kind of guy who had the bulls to go out and Kenny acting job, but I do my own mistakes we liked it. But I like to and of course in full glare of of being Rudy famous guy. But I didn't care. I don't care about. I mean, the end I ended up doing Shakespeare and all kinds of stuff and fabulous review. So I learnt across. And I'm proud of that. And you did some musicals to. Yeah. Did the beggar's opera? Neil. Yeah. I did. I did. I did my fair lady the Hollywood bowl with John lift go. Tweeted a couple of shows if the city with with the LA fillipponi that was great. Yeah. Yeah. Great and great numbers for that. Yeah. I mean, I mean, the musical and acting together that you're made for that. Well, I suppose so I don't want to go into the. I don't want that to me that would be like going back to the fan like going back to the factory going back to. No was no, I'm a gypsy lives. Hardly me. Yeah. And so where are you impede at these days? You talk a lot. We don't know we wanted to hear off. So I haven't spoken to him for year of. Shall we? Are are we he needs time by we love each other. We're brothers with here is friends and. That's all I can say. Win. We're not gonna who haven't gone we. We were very very. Very determined. Off the off the same. It was I lost tour in one thousand nine hundred eighty two. And I said that that kind of my back the other guys in the band didn't know gonna say that. But I knew that time St. Pete was in. Yeah. He he had a running with heavy drugs me up to do with pressure of the fact that we did didn't have the drama made. I'm wasn't quite gelling. He was having trouble writing that pressure was on the him. Yeah. He needed the bright. So I thought well this you're going to be the last tool because if we carried on it would've killed him. Yeah. So I don't know why on so I just announced that out of the bloom. Overstate was never gonna be the law soon. Kind at and we both did solo stuff to style. Style. Hobie yet was. Yeah. And. Here we all now and winning time to also nounce fiftieth year, and we're gonna go onto I said, this is the beginning of the long goodbye. And we have to be realistic outrage on seventy five next year. I can still I can still sing the shit out stuff. Yeah. Pecan still ply it. Yeah. So quite out yet. Yeah. Yeah. But I can size. We don't know how long with go on. I don't think you ever retire from this business. I think it retires you when you're a ban light. Yeah. Because I'm usually these of and has to have a kind of energy within it. The if ever we can't give it that because we all rock band. We're not win. Good time rock from roll band. We're not like roots to faces. Yeah, Rolling Stones. You know? Bob, and you understand what I'm saying. The opposite of that. Power chords baby on the one. He's the slam. Yeah. It's not. It's not music the fuck factor. Yeah. He's music to fight to. Yeah. And if ever loses that fighting edgier which exists between, and I still to this day will then I'll stop because then it will be cheating. Why audience, and I've never wanted to cheat them ever because I remember too. Well for my early years. I I have a boat to see anybody who's to see Cliff, Richard and the shadows. Yeah. In ninety sixty two at she's employer. And you know, what it took to get the money to buy those tickets. And so that's what. An artist owes it to an audience three hundred eighty for right and deliver. If you ever stop doing that you'll take in a piece. Buckle up the business. Those are great closing words. Show. I think it's I think it's right. I think it's too hard to come. And see you you deserve to deliver it. Yeah. You don't wanna just sweep walk there. You don't wanna auto? And I'll tell you nothing about the book, you know. What I love about your book is that you can hear your voice in it. You do you know what I mean? It's like, it's good solid storytelling. And it's honest. And you know what? I mean, it's not in bell a lot. You know what I mean? Yeah. Did you did you did you do it all yourself? What would it go out with Matt rod journalist didn't booking different white most people do their biography? I didn't have a peel. Yeah. I don't think you can write a biography on the book deal autobiography now. Yeah. All the bile was one you'd be if you were writing your biography, Roger doll should be another guy. Maybe that's true. Know. There's a real Roger road. But well, I'm trying to say. I didn't know whether I have one in me. And if you do a publishing do all of a sudden like the hold on tight a lot of money, and I don't believe any of this kind of art or whatever should ever really ever be done initially for the money. Right. So I go Buki younger get someone who admired might as journalist to to interview me. Okay. We win for four years. Ardent care. Al only went on I paid him. Yeah. Titan ten years. I wouldn't Kate. I'll I'll say because all I want is a good. Boop. Yeah. And and then we put it together and put it out there and publishes up there. And I go to do. Yeah. But now on I'm there don't into my drum. Right. You're already had the book. And yeah. The cover for instance, I fought for that cover, and the reason I wanted that covers for reasons I told you earlier. Guess what they won't just a Feis with the name. Yeah. You know, just like every other biography color. No. That's that looks like that looks like the Roger dodger good. He knows what we know on the shelf of biographies. Yeah. I. One side. Right. But I don't they didn't get told. But because I'd done it my way, I could insist that that's the cover. Yeah. It's a good cover. Thank you. Good book. And I really appreciate you coming by great talking to you guys you enjoy enjoy it too. I thought that was great. It can still sing the shit. I I love the way he said that I sing shit at love it just a reminder folks will have new w t f t shirts designed by the great, Erin. Drap Lynn available in the merge store at WTI pod dot com later this month. But if you're at my beacon theater show in New York City on November tenth you'll be the first ones to get your hands on them. All right. All right. Can't play. That's when he gave me a guitar, but no amp I told him. I didn't want the I appreciate him giving me the tar can noodle around in my hotel room while I'm sitting on my hotel couch on towel watching Rachel. Boomer live.

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Roger Daltrey, Founder and Lead Singer of The Who

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Roger Daltrey, Founder and Lead Singer of The Who

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Two seven zero one zero one to get started. And thank you. I'm Alec Baldwin. And you're listening to here's the thing. In nineteen sixty seven the Beatles. Released sergeant Pepper's lonely hearts club band, which although not the first concept album ever made is certainly the most popular over the years bands like Pink Floyd Jethro Tull and artists like David Bowie would expand and deepen the Jan rutta. But in nineteen sixty nine Pete Townsend labeled his album, Tommy a rock opera. The. Opera is not just a label that one clip from Tommy has plot exposition Hannah line worthy of Verdi. She carries a scar. On her cheek to remind her of his smile. The who spent decades as one of the big four of the British invasion of American radio in the sixties big four as in Beatles stones who zeppelin their arena shows earned them, a reputation as the greatest live act in rock and roll brilliant. Townsend wrote most of the songs and played lead. Guitar Keith moon and John Entwistle worthy. Rhythm section and the band's frontman is my guest today, the legendary Roger Daltry doll trees talent speaks through nuanced vocal styles over many years and his raw energy that looping swing of a microphone started with him electrify the vinyl than eight tracks. Then cassettes that anyone my age? Members Roger Daltry is the rockstar prototype. What we needed to be with a block spanned the rules will writing songs for the girls. They had the move screaming stones that game goes band? Safina's? And I say this flick. Doesn't. Joke, but it's not a joke. And that is you have no idea. What you and your music has meant to me in my lifetime. It's it. You can't even measure it. You are it for me in terms of the range, and the beauty and the Noah fence to other people, but you have the range. All right. I mean, towns music, whatever you too, could you imagine what it felt like to be presented without Soanes for the first time. Hell Rosie's demo. See what you can do this describe what that was like many. How was that process? Someone came to you with a tape and you sat with him and listen to a tape bring them into the studio. I mean when Connex plane he we just played a rehearsal that was easy. It was kind of a king collects on kind of O'Donnell's night. But again, you know, you really got me, and it was a tribute to the kinks, and it was kind of easy sewn for me as well as anyway anyhow anywhere, which he we finished writing on stage at a monkey in London. He had he had this verse. He didn't have the mid late which I helped to with. That's why it's a co- co writing thing on that. And then we did my generation substitute of those night. But really easy me because I we come from the blues and John. Brown and. Heavy stuff. So that was easy to get my teeth into. And he just presented them. We just slammed away we used to going to the studio and we used to have to might records improperly two hours. Max, you know, you might a whole album for hours McCartney told me when I sat private he said to me, you know, we do to songs of the morning we go have a cigarette and have a pint and go have a sandwich and comeback into two in the afternoon. That's his a week well week I had a week to two meals. But that's how it was. And it was only. Once I go present it with happy, Jack, the height of think totally different about out as a singer was going to say Townsend songs and present them in any kind of why the hope ahead up in the streets. Because I I mean, happy Jack. I mean, if you listen happy, Jack Wilson dole buddy was a man because every dramatic tone to the various own Postle in, you know. Barris it, but he written it, and it became a huge hit. I don't know why. But it did. And then, of course, the next Sony presents is I'm a boy about a woman who wanted who's having quotes. And she won't the moment to be goes one of them turns up as a boy, but she treats it luck luck ago. So this little boy creaming to be I'm. Employer. The my mall won't submitted. Then. Well, anyway, I'm gonna get round totally to kind of climb into pates hade an inter his psyche. Was that a difficult thing to do? It was tricky especially those early songs, and I listened back to them. Now when I listened to them at the time, I used to be kind of embarrassed about my voice, I was never happy with the sound of. I'd never done a good job on it that kind of paranoia about it because it wasn't the kind of Ryan job as used to sing in wasn't the emotion was used to singing about. So I always felt that I filed an excellently now and perhaps for the last ten years I listened back through them and they have haunted quality about them. Which is exactly right because he writes in a very unusual way. As you not. I mean, you see very early on very shrewd realize it light, Ron became cheesy told me became the vehicle the really developed me. A CENA because it was an ongoing process being slowly put together in the studio to develop this rock opera, which was going to be a single album carried on into being double album. And of course, when you're in the studio that long working on a project. It just gives you move onto autistic experiments. So so dis- with that point. There is that where you begin like most commercially successful groups early on your recording an album in two days is Tommy the first time you luxuriate in the studio and spend months making a single album Mia. I mean, it was ridiculously long time in those days didn't care when those days the labels kind of what they were told by the bans in that successful. Yeah. You know, they we will invent inventing this industry that became the neighbor. Happy to let us get on with it. They come in and listen, nobody. So I'm pretty sure they must've been but this oversea kit Lambert manager at the time was always convinced the pumps home could be much much more. Anyways, had this idea that if mozel grit not what we have a Ruckle prop, and how shoot was he because told me was the first World Cup in my opinion. It's one of the best preserved written surly lyrics. So the most copies. Yes. And he's probably had had has bigger audiences that process of Mike in Tomi studio got me to a certain level. But it was only off two we then go into rehearsals of doing it live on stage. It's a to like a rocket in the studio you've been able to hear everything you saying. And so you can concentrate on. Dim probate. You think are important find you get on stage all about giving it a wallop that you need to give it to get out. No more because you have to be a belter. But why were you and the other three so great onstage? Meaning I mean, again, I don't wanna lay onto thick here. But you're you're going to be the unfortunate repository of all my phantom here. And that is you guys are smart and right in the studio and your balls out on stage where combination really simple train. I put that group together. As each one of them. Join me in my band. Join it was who I I knew ahead. An ingredient that worked at biorhythms was, you know, everyone has a rhythm certain thing. I knew Joan had something special sign win Pete. Join over Asli an enormous talent immediately of this just by guitar shapes. He was playing we'd never seen anything like it. And he's drawing hand movement. You know because you being a banjo player he had this kind of rhythm action to duck to leave. Anyway, then Keith moon came along and all of a sudden all these individual by over came together, the algorithm, then became the who because the who is unique rhythmic patent, doesn't it? It's not like any other music out there, an ex rock music. It's on the one. You know, it's a slam rock and roll was music to screw to the who's music was definitely music to fight and ask where it was about. So once that algorithm that we had came together. Lame bricks. It's really weird is musical breaks. I just want to say that you know, what you mentioned about that music being for young men. There's music where we knew there was a group of guys that we had to go beat the shit out of across town that night. And that's when your music came out your music, you music with him as we played in the locker room. So it's ready for the big game who got you on your feats yet. But that's what we tried to. Do. We always tried to play on music to you to move you. But I'm gonna wanna it moved you to go fight would move that. Tears as well most of its beauty. And that's what I'm want to get to which is you grew up very poor very little money, but postwar England had gone on for it. The might incredibly wealthy we have credible community. You know, I was born in v one right in in World War Two. So everything around us when we grew up being leveled by bones. And the war to get through the wall Ola on his wrong whose mothers, and that's why finding the wool, but I in the bone shell every night. And of course, drown out the Bohm's. I used to sing. So seem became a really big part of the community in those days every pub without a panel. And I sing all these old these old musical songs and things I'm wait all saying them to how you went there'd be people seeing on the street. How how how old were you? When you join the boys brigade that would have been about eleven to your boy. Yeah. Yeah. What was singing to you like, then we self conscious about? So from the beginning, you enjoyed it. Yeah. I sang in a church choir when I was six or seven 'cause I like dressing up a new I had a voice skiffle music came along labor earlier lead belly songs, China gang songs only. Don't again, this guy in Britain who inspired me. People out robot plant to do what we did because he was just so free with his voice. We could play that music. Vice three coal, it's so you alone three calls and you comply old on songs and every street had a group group, which consists of someone guitar from somewhere. I made my first Utah for a bike have an old teach which was two six square books opened one in string through the middle of the top with a broom stick Agoo plaque of that sound like a double bass. And of course, rhythm you could take something from kitchen and the Bush board, and you had a band, and that's where it all started. And the first time you played in front of an audience was when how will we judge whole youth club on on a Saturday night in shepherd's Bush? And I said we go and get up and sing a song. So I think did hound dog for five minutes there with my hair soaked by we couldn't afford any grease like Elvis, but the soap were on this. And we thought we could look like obese with the soup. Version of of Elvis doing hound probably awful because the point when voices breakings, but I didn't have any while he's about it. And what did not immediately he ever rela people kind of looking up. This is a nice position to occupy. Some of them girls. Most of them. Giving you that look there's something about voice. I don't know why we had Mark Farner from grand funk railroad on this show. And he tells a story about he said, you know, you're on stage, man, he talks like this. He says you're on stage, and the producer said, you know, you're really small down there. The people away in the back because you got to do something big to make it big gonna give them a show. He was I want you to rip your shirt off in the middle of the show. And he looks goes what he goes. I want you to because foreigner was really fit like you, very ripped conflict guy. He goes, I want you to rip your shirt off in the show and finally goes, okay? And the military of the girls go insane. They come to work the next thing that the concert hall. There's a box of shirts in his dressing room. You're gonna rip off every night. Now. Exactly how it will. You find something we went along. You know, that wanders familiar with that Tomi outfit. I'm my own. My Shami leather. But it was wonderful to work in a skin in another skin free sweats with you breathe. You don't get. So when you wear ordinary clothes, it was it was wonderful to wear that. But when you when you have the four of you together for the first, it's the detours. That's who it was the detours with the four of you. Yeah. Change who's five of us. We had we were kind of Cliff Richard and the shadows. Like, you know, doing the movements of everything very coldly. And then he was gone the one. Yes. We had a a singer Colin Dawson who felt it was Cliff, Richard. But he wasn't of course, and he decided to become a bacon salesman. Everybody's time and seeing a Bank who Johnny Kidd and the pirates. You should look up because I made some great records, and that was the first three piece band we'd seen as a rock band with that lead. Come rhythm guitarist vice player on a great drama, and at least singer in black leather trousers and a black patch over his Johnny Kidd and the pirates they even had a backdrop hand painted of galleon. She's a ball crazy, but they gripe zone. They shaking lovely original Shaiken all over you know, that song and I did. Ritalin blues, which would be covered that was Johnny Kidd and the pirates and guitarist of that got Mickey green and he played it away. Where not only was he doing the rhythm do the leads as well. So those particular sound Pete got it immediately. So but that time I was the league Taurus when we had rhythm. But I was just sheet metal look, and she might look and Qatar plane don't really go together. Because more hands was threaded. Most. We get coat in the Cup. So kind of stuff. So I was very happy to give out the guitar and all the time we've been doing these Cliff Richard songs we used to play for g is in some of the clubs in London a nice to request things like Chuck Berry and. John Johnny cash. Weird stuff an Royal Besam. Now calling couldn't sing that Coote. So I used to do some of the singing, and so it became obvious should now. Become the lead rhythm guitarist and all will be very happy just to become the singer. And that's when it is their sheet metal career major the lead vocalist of the who. Also might have first electric guitars. We couldn't afford to buy the nosed is. But we might them where like of them very rudimentary things, but they worked. So the four of you. Did you get a record deal when you were the detour no we with a detour for awhile, then we became the who of the bottom we will playing Chicago blues mostly starting to feed in a bit of James Brown. Ten the Motown and we got a new manager. So now, we've got to find any beach, and he recognized it was this group of fashion east is coming up. Cool the modes who very shop dresses. Fashioned changing very quickly and very tight suit show, air, cops smart, and he said, they aband- for them a new committee that band, and we kind of looked at him. So e and what will involved he said, we'll first of all the baba show, and we went in to the barber shop as a stuns alike, and we came out as a bunch of modes we show haircuts. Immediately took his around the colour to bless mud clothes. So they we were really we'll wolves shake slowly and. He said you can't keep the name the who. That's not muddy enough. You call you the high numbers? So he's what does that mean? Where's that come from these this week fashion bowling shoes that you have to steal from the bowling alley 'cause got numbers on the back? Shoot. I've acoust- legend goes bigger, the fate over sudden, the demotes really got behind this is how fan base we were there band, and then they will come and request their the music that I am able changing them using regularly. It went from kind of re early reggae, zinc. Blue beat prince Busta pay light. But but now the blues for us become a little bit tedious the twelve ball, but with the of Kaethe moon, and he's very short attention span and double bass drum beat we could turn that into the feedback cycle and start inventing and be free form, which will bring the jazz influences that we we have around what year round four. Yeah. Four. Yeah. When the high numbers go back to become in the who again, we're still the high numbers. But then we get another manager which was kit Lambert. Sure, and Chris Stemp fabulous creative manages. I ninety said we don't like the name the high numbers. We've heard you with a who before that we think that name. So they changed it back to the very confused. Wait for a while. They were it's funny. When you talk about the mod period, and everything you just start to see those images, you you can even hear the lyrics in your head, you know, Zoot suit, but jacket with sad Vince five inches. You'll all quite Fenian. And it makes you think did Quadrophenia come in his mind before Tommy. But he put it on the shelf. I think quote defeated came at the time he wrote in seventy three but me you'll ROY about the lyrics Quadrophenia. It every generation that comes around picks up the album goes some thirty ender stands me. Yeah. Really weird. And we we recently last year, we'd never been to South America before never been, you know, the who crazy with knots use of thirty zero dodge tater, chilly any of those places only Mexican it's amazing five years ago. You guys didn't get sell down there where we just we just I don't know why we didn't get don't ask me all the who called the stamp. No, mostly on the Tory saw the destruction. He just didn't want to go there. He said we have enough travel fulfill, you know, at crowd in in the states in the guy. So we never went down there. But anyway, we went down there last year. They knew every word of every song and they were singing louder. Surprise you. Immensely. I mean, Mexico City, it was extrordinary and all young people. I knew every word of every song they need this. I mean, it's could music people want. What's good? They don't care. How you know? Yeah. Good as long as you can deliver it properly. And and if we ever can't do that, then we'll stop ever want to go through the motions never the who've never ever done a show where we've in and I can emit. How's your voice now is great? You had some trouble we've throat. Well. Yeah. That was about that was about nine years ago. I had I had a precancerous condition, but I found a to c Stevens. I tells of the voice institute in Massachusetts in Boston. And he so out a my voice is fabulous. Now. It's a joy to sing on all the time. I can give it the grit on the bulls needs all do it. Now when you when you do a show, let's pick a the diff. Between studio recording. What was your preparation before? You went into the studio or you went on tour. You you have to be like an athlete you are to your audience. You train your voice trying to voice let you can't try and avoid you try to life out of it. But some of the train voices ruins good voices. The rest your if you had sing shows a week on Broadway. You probably need to go to that area. Where you get the sound of the train voice personally. Don't particularly like it. But my voice, I'm very careful about in it, and he's not loud to do two shows back to back. I have to die in between is just out of respect for my voice. But then I can give it oh the pedal that I need to give it. Pedal about to the she's you know, she's singing from your ice. But that's how somewhere down there. Well, that's how it has to be to to get songs into the vein of getting the who as it needs to be my head, anyway and touch woods. My voice is kind of looking off to me at among. A seminal moment in the counterculture Daltry at Woodstock sings see me feel me from Tommy there's earnestness and anger in Daltry soy's the band and the crowd took Tommy's rebellious message. Seriously, another artist with a revolutionary sound is Tom York of Radiohead your fines almost giddy joy in hearing. How his innovations spread into different music, sometimes very different one of the best buzzes ready. Is that thing where someone comes up? You know, I'm really into what they're doing is fascinating. And it's really totally new to me. But yet. The occasions where fed off of you. Yeah. And you're like, how could you how could you feed off may? I didn't see any of my stuff. But they see. So cool. You know, people within hip Papu her into Radiohead. I'm not I mean, obviously, I'm massively into hip-hop. 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According to the New York Times, and the BBC only halfway through the show, and already Daltry voice is ragged when you can hear him pushing literally shaking through the songs last stances, Roger Daltry intense physicality extends to his fists. He told me he had a bit of a short fuse. But I I think that kind from being bullied at school. I'm little guy. I'm a very smooth guy and the ones always used to get bullied as you know, they went on school for quite a while. Until one day I picked up chairman when I was in Omai. Winning. I with the chair, and I left me a lot. And I back to all of this works. If they know. Kind of made my fight or flight mode. Trip to into would always fight. And if ever I felt the threat was going to get out of hand is one thing I can do big Avila. An to the first punch for this cake. Handshake. You know, and then you might have a chance of surviving. But that's what it did for me. So I yeah, I kind of had to read, Mr.. Used to have to rule the Bamut of I'm fisted begin. Because I they Lippi looked is it safe to say because you're a person who sings such long live rock, these blistering anthems, you the band would sing. And then you blow some of the most beautiful notes in music history singing seeing sand and see me feel me is the songs does pee bring that out anew new. He's writing brings it out in the lyrics. It's in the melody know these demos when he writes, a very very different than the finished product that I often give him especially tools of years about Korea. I try and make each song have a starting point and tight you on a journey through it rather a lot of songs kind of stop, and they get to a level, and they stay there all the way through to the end. I've always talked to Mike who songs climb Ladda rather than being flat lining journey. Brown sugar comes out. They come out Glenn guns. Blazing. A lot of those songs they start here. You know? Whereas you say you want to kind of move around and said, the song did the whole told me this some with with an orchestra and wrote ban an it's phenomenal passing. So I think that's that's like a new classical music when you hear that of had these orchestrations done by David Campbell is father bec because, but I'm elevated told me to where I believe it should be now. Sorry exciting to play. It's wonderful Cameron Crowe when I did a movie with them got me the vinyl copy that I worship of the L S with the gleaming ball on top. And they have that's just an orchestra. She's a guest. And I'll tell you. There's not one piece of this orchestration where the orchestra's plame anything like a cable pad. I mean, its own melodic interesting Cussing of instrumentation. It's incredible courted. I'm going to release possibly the Bethel concert, which is the Woodstock. So as you know, because it's the fifty years of told me in March, and of course, next year fifty years of Woodstock, she's told me my this. My really might. Yeah. So I'm yeah, I'm going to release it is a solo album as a as a performance, then if he'd like why would dump some guitar, and then it can be the who I wanna out there for the record because it's an incredible piece of work. It'd be it is people always talk about moon and the legend of moon and moon being very of Saint as politely as possible being very colorful character. With a loved him. You would ado everyone do Mundo you who so eight. You would like to warn me. But it was so who also died young. He was not that old. And when he died from a drug overdose as well. Correct. A heart attack, you know, whatever you'll unconditional with the way, he lived he on the live the life of rose, though, the, you know, the sad thing about Jones death was the fact that the hall drug casino in Las Vegas where he died in bed for a line of coke will ever tighten that night. Didn't put a gloss case round him an open as an exit. See John would have loved that. Then Joe that to John for rock and roll live by. But he was the first one. But he's the first one you couldn't in the band. He was kind of a real date of you're in a member saying to McCartney one time he said to me, they were always telling them. Here's the best drummer in London that you should have. And you can replace the sky, and he said, no, no, no, no, no. It's gotta be these four people. It's these four this is my band these for we all felt like if Ringo leaves and you get another guy in there. We ain't doing it. How you felt but three definitely. It's not going to be as good, and it took a long time to find the missing missing link that when Keith died we put Kenny junction in the band who's fabulous drama Kenney Jones, but he was drama from smo- faces. But can you imagine putting case moon in the faces? It would have been. Kyle but equally disastrous putting Kenney Jones in the who the algorithm didn't work anymore. It was like like having a square wheel on a call. I love Kenny is a might an incredibly difficult track deciphering count with with you can doesn't work. How long did you work with them? We went off about four years. How many albums did you record with them? We we did too. We did face dances. And it's hard to feel somewhat nowhere unless you need. He said he didn't. But my intuition told me that Pete new. Woodstock odyssey for many, many people. You know, there are people who are musical sophisticates. And they know even before Rolling Stone shows up and things like that they find what is music and clubs, and they're much more kind of savvy for me, I was a bit younger the first time become aware of you is because of Woodstock Woodstock is what to the who. I don't know where you're at in your career in terms of success. Are you helicoptering in the Bethel in or describe that experience? I was in Connecticut with my soon to be wife, Heather a mother and father, and we will watching the news had about this festival that we would do to play the following day with this was the Friday on how the governor of New York declared the area a disaster zone because of the modern the rain and lack of food lack of this and the behavior and the kind of medicine that was the wrong kind of medicine getting in and how the roads in blow in the state police. Had blocked everything off an how everybody was flying in a helicopter to even get to the site. Well, how we gonna get there? Heavens father. He just said of drive you there in the Volkswagen and had a Volkswagen beetle. So Herbie went to Woodstock we jumped in the votes on the moaning of the of that Saturday mooning, and we drove all the white the Bethel. Every time we kind of roablock we drove through we got there. It was chaos. Yes. It was all those things, but it won't lie present on the news at all. Wasn't as bad now. And we drove into the site in the obligatory her station wagon, whichever group have those days. So that was myth made up the fake news on the television. You went on what time to nine o'clock at night. You get yourself up, psychologically, and you get your energy to be peaking time. You hit the state. So you'll ready to to deliver to your audience everything to be given. And. We will ready by nine o'clock. Five o'clock in the morning on we go. And there was hardly any that out. The anything to hot anything to drink wasn't laced with some. Viggo the album herb. Yeah. By the time. We go on stage so much the equipment of Brunton down. It was it was a little bit hit and miss. But for some reason, the other seem to seem to capture a moment of the period struggle, the age, you know, we we tend to forget now that was a whole generation they will live in with the Vietnam war the horror of it. And you know, some any of them being drafted. I remember ticking ABBIE Hoffman off to study. Make it his speech. This politics you up here. Again, I'll kill you. Please love rook. Oh, no. When you 'cause we had Peter Frampton on the show and Fanton talked about they go out now and do this legacy album thing where they play the album in its entirety from start to finish the way the albums performed. Are you guys doing Quadrophenia startling? Did it we did it not too long ago in the two thousand thirteen how did it? Go fantastic. We've yeah, we did the whole the whole place as studies picks. And it's it's a good place. We might revisited sometime. I'll invite you alone. Did you did you record that? Yes. There is a is a DVD before where did you perform everywhere. That's call. You. You you did a few on the film. Four kids four kids five and under. I'm sixty five you got one hundred. One hundred kids brings me to my other question. I got two more questions for you. I got a thousand questions you've been married for a long time. If you speak very lovingly about your wife in the book, and what your secret. Found the right woman. And I found a woman who very early on. She understood the industry wherein, which as you know, is very difficult to having any comment of relationship in long term unless you having credible. Goodwill, and understanding and truly love each other. She wanted to get married because we wanted to have children, and I said what marry you, but you know, you know, in you know, what I'm not. You know, what I'm never going to be that FIFA house binned, you laid your car cable that much like, right, and you have but you have to do it up front. You can't do it. After the occasion an up front and Heather accepted. It. I wasn't as bad as I could have been because of that. And you know, here we all fifty one years later, and we're true partners. And you true partner. She in your kids when their kids were school edge you and she have three kids together we go three when they were school. Would they go with you on the road? You always Lee's. I'm. Came out, and that was wonderful. But it was really quite kind of funny. When my kids I saw me on stage. Kind of you know. I could hear them token kind of six seven years old and one that goes in their friends with token could hit my daughters. I my dad's a a star and the other little girl said yet, but my that takes the train to London every. That's what she's so wonderful you go. She's she's real life. Senate amazing. How you you try to tell the people's kids you I've met famous, especially famous musicians acting as a federal who's good and who's great and what works, and what doesn't work is love music, much, more pure? I agree with you. There's something about music whether it's the same today, but it used to be. So you could always remember exactly what you were doing. When you first heard that track. This something about smoking joining buddy, Holly sing in that only the diet. Wow. Did that town? It's when you first heard Elvis singing heartbreak hotel. Woo. Richard seeing Lucille when I was gonna do lip sync battle on Jimmy Fallon. I didn't do it. But I was gonna do it. And they said what do you wanna do? I said I wanna do Bob O'Reilly. And they said you can't do that. I I go because you can't spend the Mike you're gonna smash the lights up in the TV studio. I couldn't who taught you how to do that. Where did you get that idea to take that Mike and throw that Mike no told me I used it? Once I went into the free foam in nearly he's the late sixties. It just came out of bold. I was y'all couldn't stand there and be like Plum, I wasn't cool enough just needed to don't wanna don't like a. No Neri don't. So I just started to play with it. And it just got bigger and bigger energy channel the energy. And then the peace jump in the net legendary jump of windmilling kangaroo. The put the whole thing was kind of in with the music and became a ballet didn't it was climbing stored Neri, I'm, but I think a look at some of those this one piece of film. I've seen recently somebody showed me the Freddie Mercury tribute concert to Wimbley stadium. I had the job of being the first act out on the stage. But take a look at it on YouTube. You can you can watch it an entrance. I'm spending that Mike. Wonderful to see the fear Umbro. He's funny. Fly everywhere. But it misses eve every time of never hit anyone but myself with it put the anyone person. But that was delivered. And I was quite pleased with that we we we could possibly make an effort. I'm sure we would make an effort, although we he we think we tracked. When Townsend was in New York to promote his book a couple years ago, and we made a stab at trying to last sue him in ear to do the show. How does he look back on all that work you guys to his he proud? I think he is. He's got to be. We're having a great time on stage now for the first time in career the last well since two thousand thirteen has been on that so joy as the bad. Now, the band is very different still stocky pre Townsend of me. The band. I tune solo wiz we got to learn golden keyboards. Frank Simes is music director Simon towns brother of cool, susa- fabulous rhythm player. Joan Joan button on bass got Joan Corey on keyboards. That's the line that we need to do Quadrophenia because there's so much music instrumentation in need that we've been getting reviews. Good as anything we ever go in the seventies. Which I'm so proud of to be this. I know that you're still delivering it in the right way. I'm going to name three songs out of the countless songs you sang. And you tell me was it easier hard for you to sing the soccer them curious about something. That's really ripping cut of the letter. So to sing see me, filming a piece of cake is came. Yeah. Yeah. Absolut- easy as anything easy easy. Went back to. Bob, love Raynor me. That was really really easy incredibly. Painful to hear. Pete's remark. When he first heard it. I don't like it. Why he didn't like it? He didn't hear the same way. I see is getting talking about earlier how I would interpret he's very differently. Sometimes the that he kind of wrote them an e he wrote is this gentle love song. He. I this is the law so on the album. Songs you rip it in the end just needed to be promo. It was you know, it needed to be out to into spice. So I did end in the I do any hacia eating actual kind of that that the time and hurt too because she said it quite bit in the press Tien. So that was kind of weird, but he quickly. Still carried on singing it that way. Did it affect your choice of song you sang that you got the talked into or you even talked yourself into singing a certain way, and you didn't like it. And it turned out to be a great hit happy. Jank. He was a hit record. I couldn't cook. Could not believe it. I just could this records. I it regular. I just ever heard it one of the few ones that I kind of when we start to revisit hits. Forget that one. And over the years you did or did not do much songwriting with him. And he did he do an no I, you know, a few songs sung Roger in the caliber of Pete Townsend. I wrote anyway anyhow way with him. But that was it. I've written songs of my own, you know, but who you left to him. Well. When you're on such a big fan of his fan and the more heavies Ryan in these head the other stuff become fair. You know, you probably screw it up. But I'll never forget you guys went on tour in the US, and they put you I think it was on the cover of Newsweek, and I do believe sometimes I don't trust my memory anymore. But I do believe I'm precise in this one which you had one of my favorite lines of all time you and they quoted you saying you said, nobody writes songs like Pete. And no one sings Pete songs like. That's the definition of the. When I was a kid. I thought to myself I was like a little young forget how old I was any band that puts an album that with song on a a quick one while he's away. But I gotta meet this band. Had had a song code a quick one. While he's away would play too. Young people have ever twelve thirty. The name of the book is thanks a lot. Mr. Kibble, white the name of your. Yeah. Who you out of school? Yes. Major the star that you today. Thanks, and I want to say truly you are for my money, the greatest rock and roll singer of all time. Thank you for doing this with us. They actually do any. I'll tell pay. You go to. Pete. You've got to do it for me. Attract from Quadrophenia to go out on from nineteen Seventy-three. Daltry captures the melancholy of Pete Townsend lyric his character, a disillusioned who fam- sits looking for meaning on a beach and Brighton there's all of the lost promise of the nineteen sixties in that voice. That was the incomparable Roger Daltry. This is Alec Baldwin. You're listening to here's the thing. A production of WNYC studios.

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Roger Daltrey on The Who, Woodstock, and his Rock 'n Roll Life

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Roger Daltrey on The Who, Woodstock, and his Rock 'n Roll Life

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Like, the windmill strum the power cord that C H O R D And the musical use of electrical feedback influencing everyone from Pink Floyd to Jimi Hendrix, seven of their albums rank on rolling stone's five hundred greatest albums of all time list and Tommy my generation and who's next have been inducted into the Grammy hall of fame. The who has also received a lifetime achievement award from the Grammy foundation been inducted into the rock and Roll Hall of fame and in two thousand eight became the first rock band ever to be honored by the Kennedy Center. It's a long way from the ragtag skiff. Oh band that. Roger Daltry started with a few friends and a homemade guitar in nineteen fifty nine. Now, the lead vocalist and founder of the who writes about that wild musical journey in his new memoir, titled thanks a lot. Mr. Kibble, white my story and today Roger Daltry joins me on the podcast to talk about how the hardships is parents experienced during the blitz in World War Two pave the way for his generation to shake things up two decades later he recalls what it was like to be the poster boys for the British mod revolution. And why he never fully embraced that fad and sums up what it was like to play Woodstock with one word chaos. He talks about how he and Peter Townsend pushed each other's creative boundaries during the making of the who's Tommy how he managed to resist the drug fueled excess of the nineteen sixties and seventies. And how it led to quite a bit of tension between him and his bandmates, especially the who's famously reckless drummer Keith moon. He also reveals how he processed moons tragic. Death in nineteen seventy eight how it led to the band's breakup in the early eighties, and how a Silicon Valley conman got the who to finally reunite years later coming up with rock and roll legend Roger Daltry in just a moment. Roger Daltry is the lead vocalist and founding member of the legendary rock band the who in a career that has spanned more than fifty years. He's produced eight solo albums in addition to his work with the who was inducted into the rock and Roll Hall of fame in nineteen ninety and received a Kennedy Center honor and do eight now he writes about is incredible rock and roll life in a new book that's being called one of the best rock memoirs in recent memory. It's titled thanks a lot Mr. Kibble white mice story, Roger Daltry. Welcome to the show, man. I I want to start by going way back to pre who you were born during the blitz, but not the one that most people think of it was what the v one rocket blitz at the end. Yeah. The people who we don't realize the bliss was on the east end of London, which was the dock area and. We lived in west London. But in nineteen forty four Hitler Sunday leashed, his be one Bohm's on this which will like a jet engine, propelled missile. You used to hear it coming. And then it would start when everybody everybody used to just run because you never knew where full and that was kind of code mini-blitz operation book, and this was nine hundred forty four on the twenty ninth of February when my mom star Eliaba, and she was just to dub it I was going to be a leap gave by EBay. Well, down go now. The jury one of these air, I must have been really hairy time. Because I I can't imagine what my parents my whole family and every other family in in Britain must have gone through food. I was years to kind of go down a shelter. Come back out and Hof the street will be missing. Rabble the similarity that un-american can kind of draw for it on your shows apart from a few kind of balloon bombs fell on the west coast is nine eleven of course, and yeah in the imagine the trauma that that goes, well, they were going down the shelters and coming up to that. But almost five years. Yeah. Tell you can imagine what it did to them. And you talk about the toll that it took on your parents. But you also say that what they went through in the forties, actually, set the stage for your generation, and what you guys would create in the sixties explain how that evolved. Well, I went through in the photo by the war, destroying everything we had no from to build. London was level book. But what it did for it gave us a blank canvas of the mind who we were out generation coming up, which became the first outta lesson. Denies generation with a little bit of spare cash to spend. So like, I was his blank canvas to paint on. And then from your country along comes over and of coast every every young eleven twelve thirteen year old preview Bessant into puberty youngster in England mile wanted to be overseas. Every female won't you to give him a cog. So of course, we couldn't be Oviously we immediately go from these very straight short-back-and-sides haircuts rushed out to the bathrooms go out of the borrow suit and slick here by because we couldn't afford anything like any kind of treatment to to get the same. Look, but assault were wanders. So we were and then and then along kindness this music, which was American early American folk song lead belly songs and giant Ganz combs Appalachia songs. Which was presented in our country is a musical skiffle. Yeah. By a guy. Clearly, we don't know here. But you have roots music, right? Yeah. And Lonnie Donnegan was the one I sold real enough it. Wow. What a what a dream existence. That must be singing with already knew I could Satan because I've been in church choir. But we're not Solani Donnegan. He sang these songs and Nikon of spoke to us in a different way. And the white. He sang them bought a why he didn't look cool too. He had used to come on to a dinner jacket and the by I it was the white. He sang the songs he was singing Chinese phones songs of plane. These are songs of anger. There was always other stuff. Going on words. Loney was the one that Miami thing I can do this. I I'd like to do this because lonely used to throw these head back off I through someone just let rip. Gospel music, you know. Kind something much much deeper in the white touch me. So every an- and the great thing about music woes that everybody could just get some kind of instrument. You know, I might might I talk we have the right light. So I might want I kind of acoustic guitar by copying one somebody lent. My dad, so I could get size of it. Look at how it was made. And I learned the free codes of which you could play most of these skiffle songs. And of course, why don't you get tall three colds and consult singing songs someone else? Picks up. Something starts banging. You gotta wash bowed on some thimbles, and you can get a rhythm section going. You know? On a T chest, which was kind of two maybe two foot six square plywood books with a string fruita middle of the top open into the bottom, a broomstick and a piece of string you could make that sound every bit as good as the double bass. Yeah, it's a cat counteract me of fat, Albert and his junk yard band. Yeah. Yes. Every street very quickly had a skiffle band. And that's where the who whole my what became the host Auty died. These my friend from school Harry Wilson, he very soon came in drama when we we decided we move up from the washboard through real drum kit, and and it slowly slowly progressed pro sixties. Yeah. And I suppose there are plenty of people who might assume that the who began with Pete Townsend, but you started the band when you were in what high school and somewhere along the way, he auditioned and you brought him on. What did you think of Pete when he first met him? Well, it I mean, I I kind because you give them before that I will I recognize them from school irony year younger than me, but labor to kind of characters that you just could not hide in a crowd. I would nice stood out. That's that's the only way I can conduct. Explain charisma. I had even then I had it and I stood out in a crowd. You couldn't hide them in crowd of five thousand especially Pete who who's now's the time was extremely prominent. Because we were just coming out of food rationing. We sedately. We sedately. Nine hundred forty five was the worst year of the whole year when the war was over. We had even less food for the first I eighteen months because we had to share what little we had with Germans. Yeah. I a loaf of white bread was was towards the middle of nineteen forty five consisted of Hoffa love of joke. Got them the amount an ask what we'd be fed Oded, but we survived it. Anyway. So I'd notice them at school went on the first one to join me was John Entwistle lived around the corner. And I bumped into him on the street coming home from a sheet metal factory where I worked, and he was carrying a hung my vice guitar and well somewhat of my own kind of. Mentality because I don't ready. My first electric atoll by this time, and I talked to John, and he said he was in a tribe band, and he played trumpet most of the time. But he was learning this base guitar, and he might himself. It was a it wasn't much. But the my one if if as good. And I invited him. I said, you know, you all you in the band. He said, yeah. I mean, this has banned, you know. It's really good. We lice squad few youth clubs and things. So I asked him if he was getting paid, and he said, no. He said you said yes that I was live through about teeth. So he invited me along. Sorry. I invited him along to the next rehearsal was abandoned. It was quite obvious. Joan was a musical talent. There was no doubt about it. He hasn't had a musicality about him immediately obvious to me, and he became out vice player and at the time we used to have I used to be on league atoll. We had another guy who reg on rhythm guitar, and he wasn't very good tool and John owned by s-. We have more might Harry on drums, and we had a singer calling. And we kind of do in Cliff Richard songs, which. British Elvis ritual very soft the little bit Twee an out now singer. So he he was Cliff Richard. We didn't. Anyway, after about six weeks Jones said, you know, we're we're not gonna get anywhere with reg on this rhythm guitar said, I know someone who would fit perfectly expand, and I'll shed old it. Yeah. Who's that? And he said what he's nine eight and he's in the jab jazz ban with he was in the jazz band with me. He played the banjo. He said, but he's a great guitar player so much bring him along them. So he brought him along next week. And they was pay towns in. We didn't rhythm guitar all and it was immediately obvious. These go going had something incredibly special because he was playing codes the shite of which we'd never seen on the sound of which the rhythm of which we'd never heard only in a maybe that time from his previous banjo playing. I don't know yet. He was immediately. Obviously, this guy was something special. Yeah. It's funny to think that one of the greatest rock bands of all time pretty much began doing Dixieland jazz. Well, we use it. But then then because that's what I used to do. And then of course, there was that periods through the early sixties where people ACA Bill Kenny bowl there was a period where trad jazz, actually trumpeted. Yeah. I'm be kind. Of course, he nudged is when you apply in the bars and clubs and things that we used to play if it within the child Schumer expected to play it. So the who actually did back to be judged by. For two songs, and I played the trombone. It's quite funny. I'll think back I mean, we we would have done anything just on across now the who became heavily identified with the British mod culture and the sixties, but you weren't a big fan of that. In fact, you say really wasn't much of a movement at all what I bought. Let's I wasn't. I wasn't a fan fan of it. I kind of loved it. I loved the the fact that it was very different, and it was very fashion driven. But it just seemed to me that. I had the pinnacle period which lasted about six months, and then it became a mess. Dislike most fashions do. And that's when kind of fell out of love with it. And I never could be among because I I had curly hair. Right equivalent having some sexual transmission disease. You must God. I've curly. So it was very difficult period for me, and we will we will just kinda lonely. I blues by and we went guy who became manager coop. Eat the maiden, but he recognized the importance of this this new fashion movement that was involving in London and said, I need I need a band as they figure his because the stones are out at now lay down. But it was a dumb. You know, you can't be a look alike stones. You gotta be something else is. So the look alike stones won't tend to a barbershop walked out was the band and for the most but equally inside I was a teddy boy. No along that same time period. There was an incident where Pete broke a guitar and suddenly that kind of recklessness became synonymous with you guys, which is something that you sort of resisted, the the reckless image in the sixties, drug culture wasn't really for you. You know, when launch the drugs kicked into the prisoners in a big way in the early sixties. It was I'm phetamine which was mostly taken by the groups because we were doing two shows a night we'd were between eight PM and eleven PM. Then we drive might be fifty sixty seventy miles to another Geoghegan. We would from two in the morning to five in the morning. To style white. That's with the Daijo was well, by the way, this is Friday night. Oh, that's. That can become alone. Die. Yeah. For sure because you weren't in factories a lot of that time that was your day job. And then. Jones just thought. Yeah. In in an office, which was different Bogue. I work in a factory. But. I couldn't do drugs. I only want it to be a good singer on the am freshman used to just draw me out. My voice used to crack. And it was it was uncomfortable. I'd end up chewing my lip. I just I used to make me feel awful. So I didn't do them the rest of the guys did. But it was controllable then. But then then then tools, the the ninety sixty five now full I soar of Europe it got very out of controlling the who they were white from home body time big time party on account. Remember how many shows we did? It doesn't really matter. But by law show labor pumping saw many pills. The music was not only unlistenable. It was too fast. I couldn't even get the words of the songs into them. I've applied so fast, so loud and messy and. And. I decided this pensively forward who's gonna end. So I floss through there. Drugs down at down to toilet. Which? Food rather nasty fight. Yeah. And I guess for a few days, you guys broke up and tell me. They were getting booed without you yet. I did I remember it was about three or four weeks. And I did a few showers without me. But I was I started this band and found the, you know, these people came to us. With the energy of the universe. Somehow, the other ingredients I needed turned up con- explain it, but that will happen, and I wasn't allotted to start another band. By now, and you could see we'd had tape recruits and. Kind of following. And. Was only offer a month management came back to me. They the management went to them and said you've gotta Taik him back because there's no work and without Roja. 'cause I then the management came to me. I I want you back. But allow me have you back if you promise not to fight anymore. I used to rule Obama than I am faced love scrap. As I said, but. It's only a slight problem said, you know, I will go back, but I'll do it, and I will not fight anymore. Nuts. That's a deal. That's fine. That's easy to control. But I want them to give me their would they won't take any drugs before they go on. I don't care what I do often. I mean, that's their business. No, no trying to be more like a moral judgment on this. I just wanted the ban to be as good as it could possibly be. 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There's this famous legend about Keith moon who was kind of the the one who is always getting into trouble in the pant tables, legendary there's. He drove a Cadillac into a hotel and Michigan do didn't personally witness that. Are you skeptical that ever really happened? Well, you had to read about that. Because it. You're going to give it with a whole book. But you, but you you basically you think that might have gotten ripped off by the torment. Manager management or your manager at the time kit Lambert. You had sort of it sounds like a love hate relationship with him because you say creatively, he was brilliant. But as a manager it was pretty much a crook. When did you realize behind? You've got the wrong would. Okay. Well, love height. I. Kit was the most labile block. He was it was everything about him was very lovable gentle imaginative incredibly creative. I'll take you will educated man, uncomfortably guy. Remember in this period of the sixties when we first met him that was legal that was illegal new go-to gyro, Abby. I mean, this was that. So not was never love was always loved. But he had this side of him, which I only became aware of in ninety nineteen seventy I think it was seventy three. Where quite obvious. I will screwing us in. And it was unnecessary. It was stupid. I never ever wanted to get completely rid of them because of their creative genius both and Chris stamp, bro. Brothers Terence stamp the ACTA managers, and they were incredibly creative and not never wanted to lose from the band. We found them screwing us and later on turn very nasty. Agai you have to read the of the reasons why. And it was it was very sad for me. And I. The drugs them. I wish I had known now. I wish I knew them. I know now maybe things could have gone different. And we could have intervened in a why that could have helped them, but I will. Time the end kind for kit. He was very very heavy heavily heavily into my dogs. Yeah. I think that you said in the book that you guys would go on this long tour and work your asses off. And then you would come back to your accountant and find out you guys were in debt from the we. Circle. Had we had a meet account ever forget it was nineteen seventy-one by this time we'd had hit records and for six years, and we had this retune. Our accountant's office said you've done all I'm really well to shaved who worked on vantage. And you know. Last year you over it was about five hundred fifty thousand pounds in debt initiate, you'll be glad to now gone up to six hundred fifty. Wish pulling. So he he completely stripped Nike and put his bowls on the table. Said you these as well. I want to ask you a little bit about what might be considered your most creative period. There was this transitional period between my generation and the who's Tommy where the music was transforming sort of into this representation of Pete's inner monologue, and you busted through the bravado of the Mick Jagger style explore deeper less, comfortable themes, as the frontman of the band in the one who had to give voice to those lyrics. What was that transition like for you that that was very? Tricky time for me because I recognize pre exchanges very very early on. A very comfortable with Tamar generation quite. Quite. That was music to fight too. Real rock music. Then all of a sudden this strike after the breakout me being reintroduced it of and I get presented with songs like happy, Jack. Right. I'm a boy pictures of lily. I you don't have to kind of blue voice something how do I get myself into this? So I I'm going to do this to try and get some psychological understanding of peach interior. That's where I tried to. I tried to mow my voice into and when I listened back to it. Now, I kind of succeeded because it almost sounds like singing from the inside of myself. It's very weird. Yeah. Okay. Let's. Yeah. And you to kind of fed off of each other, very is very very, you know, because in the every singer songwriter relationship to what really will has to have an all about empathy cello. Yeah. And and it shows that it was it was working, even then even though I was struggling every night with it, but struggle now, listen back was well, we'll worth it. Yeah. Yeah. Worked big time. Now, I have to ask about Woodstock. It's been romanticized as the seminal moment of the sixties. But you don't have that many good memories necessarily of the experience you say that it was complete chaos. What went wrong well, not wrong? But it was Kyle's. That was the first time for me. I realized that there is fight news. Because on every news channel. I mean, I was in Connecticut with time with my mother to be father Noel their houses with them, much, your wife, and we put on the TV. And of course, every headline news was about disaster. Woodstock how it'd been rained out governor declared disaster area of roads locked I'll just would be flown in by helicopter. It was you know, it sounded like it was on the news. This was on the Friday night, the first I had the festival anyways. We joked play on Saturday. An honest in Connecticut, preparing in what how we can get in blocked the road because we've been destroyed. Anyway. So to head us day just said that while he should hope driving jump in the Volkswagen. So we went we went to would stop in Volkswagen beetle and Herbie went to Woodstock and he went. When it comes to a roadblock or anything on that. We just Grote drove up the gross villages. Around round them and people just wipe us through. But it was Kyle. But it was a kind of wonderful Kyle when you events you wanna do at right show. Right. And when you turn up to show when we turned up to seven o'clock at night, I get to five o'clock. Everything you haven't had engine tweet into ever was to drink lice with something or the other. Becomes difficult to to kind of do the show you're capable. I never thought we have a great show. Would we did? I show. Yeah. And I said the promoters tried to screw you didn't they well promoted. I anyone they didn't want to, but we had to get by because we you know, Custer's money to get there. And it was going to cost us money. Let's put it this way. We'd have to learn to do swimming to get back. Fast forward to the early eighties Keith moon passed away rather tragically. And you say that you and Pete had been expecting that day to come for years when it finally happened. How did the two you process that? It was hard to say the least. But. Stay with us the music, scientists Reno what do we have left because what it was? What we created? What we realized very quickly was the whatever case created these life existed. Mostly in these music in the music played with him on the drums. So it kind. Off off to become we we you don't get over the grief of that for years. I'm not meet knees. Because he was such a character. But we had the music, and that's what drove Sola, and it was the same thing when John died the music was all important what we were given the gift of create together. Comes first in Pete had said, the who was for people who never should have been in a band together. And yet you guys the four originals lasted for a really long time for a rock band is that what you would attribute that says we should never have been in in a band together. But that's because maybe maybe two might the kind of music we might which has its own special kind of rhythm. Something about who music is unique. Oh, yeah. And for instance, win Kenney joined the band off to Keith died KENNY'S fabulous drama, but it just did not work with the. Yeah. And I say that knows insult to Kenny is just the his algorithm was different. I mean, just it would have been similar if you put pave moon in the faces it would have been. You've caught him mooted. That that that no thing no longer in a fund sing along sing along the feistiest by. So you just similar thing in Kenny and the who so. You suddenly realize they can. I've said, you know, we would never put us together. But maybe that's where greatness comes from his when you tight enormous challenges with characters full completely different characters alpha. My oh. Kind of ovarian quirky in in different ways. But it worked and create is something totally original. You know, if if you, you know, full people who you would expect to be in a band together, you get what you expected and Dahl. Yeah. Nothing. Surprising. Nothing was offering around like that after Keith died. You guys took a break for a very long time. And then I guess it was somewhere around the late nineties that you finally reunited, and in one of the crazier stories in the book, you say, it was all because of a total con man who was this guy. Oh god. We an offer come through town ridiculous amount of money. It was two million to three million dollars to do one show in Las Vegas. But if the who appear that with one caveat, the show was to be staged to promote a company how cold help me help me out. It was I think it was a tech company. Right. Come home bio company with Yod, right? And. Go ahead. This company. Apparently was going to be doing early streaming on the internet this way back in in nineteen thousand nine hundred sounds promise, and it goes three million dollars two dollars or some extraordinary amount of money. But with the caveat that one of us had to go down to this big tech conference on the south of France. And talk about this company picks on nestled. It was good and talk about the company. What? I'm to do. Coast wanna do that. He won't do the gig for money. But he didn't wanna do the schlepping doubtless frogs do spiel. So so I went down there and seventy realize I didn't have a computer do nothing about tech industry. It's old. But I looked at the knows. She's right. Down their luck. With those early days of the dot com. Bubble. I was talking to people token over this stuff. I didn't understand but it sounded like cobras to me. You know, I can call blues COPA. So I might have went out. Did did the did the speech to to sell this pick slow? We this is going to this win the bandwidths do this and get win. The bandwidth get big pretending to know about. Bam wits. Only ban with the though bands. So anyway, so I did that bit. And I. He I don't build everything was from. We went to Vegas. We did the gig pied everything fabulous on the sign thing. Syam? Invent Aerosmith was on the lows. Huge bans, then it turned out about three weeks light have been arrested. Everybody been piper. By by this time. The whole thing was a confidence trick the Las Vegas job. Yeah. He was a guy just wanted to have a huge party on the dot com. Bubble. And actually did Mike any money out of it. He just wanted to have a party everybody. Who cares? Whatever. And the band got together because of that real quickly before we go, you're not twenty years old anymore. What kind of told is it take when you're doing these days? So ryan. Colin do what I used to do as much physicality could my buddies been wrecks. How many how many car crashes bang scrapes? And you know, unite breaks. Equally still swinging the might went on want to I don't need to do it. Now, I'm more into my canal music. Better than it said the bean the muse because that's going to be a legacy is is towns music, and I want to just get people to hear it. Good now's ever wolf if not better in different forms. So that's my mission. Now. And at the moment was to doing that. If I have come off stage and think I I'm not delivering in the white should be delivered. Because there is an energy who has to beat it. Yeah. And if that flame ever leaves me, I will stop want public turning potent to me because then then you're just darling in and I've seen a lot of bands to that. And I love it. It's an insult to the audience on. I remember this is a kid of voting years out saving up for my Saturday job to gallon sea Cliff, Richard and the shadows. Empire in those is on that ticket cost me a lot of money an IRA brilliant night. I realized in. When you look an audience from sties in this privileged position that we all coupon. Everyone on those people what I've gone through the bomb on that. You are to them to be there. And if you. You deserve kicking else. Bands kick, you mentioned. That I can't say that you don't give your fans their money's worth. Once again, his memoir is called. Thanks a lot. Mr. Kibble, white my story. Roger it's been fun. Thanks for sitting too. Thanks again to Roger Daltry for coming on the podcast border his book. Thanks a lot. Mr. Bill, white my story on Amazon audible or wherever books are sold and follow the who on Twitter at at the who the flattern school will teach you everything you need to work in code data science and design you'll learn by making things breaking things and discovering how the future is being built the results speak for themselves. Go to flat iron school dot com slash podcast to read about graduates. New careers and salary ranges and sign up for a free. Intercourse enrollment is now open flat iron school dot com slash podcasts. If you haven't already be sure to subscribe to kick ass news on itunes and leave us a review, you can follow us on Facebook or on Twitter at at kick ass news pod. And as always, I welcome your comments questions and ideas at comments at. Kick ass, news dot com. I'm Ben Mathis. And thanks for listening to kick ass news. Kick ass. 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Fistful of Chords - Wilko Johnson Part 2

Fistful of Chords

32:10 min | 7 months ago

Fistful of Chords - Wilko Johnson Part 2

"Hello jim carey. Enjoy listening tasteful. Of course this is two points of view with wilco johnson. Last time we spoke about wilko's fractious departure from dr feelgood. We pick up again in one thousand nine hundred four with the death feel-good singer. Brillo leeann died did you now. That was coming. It was weird. It must have been a year or so before we go. Japan malls every year. I think been there about thirty tons of big in japan a anyway that year that we were doing on our tour of japan and the promoters of got the filbert's were in japan and they they a our band drying it was pretty good actually because because because they did as out in the show a pistol over. We got so. Who's pretty good bar. I did realize there and something was wrong with louis. Which now which now. The japanese inscrutable is over. They they had kind of pig shop that we weren't the best bothering links boots boots us. The person different hotel rooms the sound checks so the comes in one of my. That's actually speak to me. In fact i think after the bus stop. I think it might have been to us three times with accident in town or in a in a record company or something and it was it was to stand looking at your shoes anyway. I i knew there was something wrong with me. And then then we start here in that. It was kind and my browser. Come down to southend. He went to see the very other nothing and he he asked him. You know the the want to see. Because i i don't know if he wanted to see me and he said yes. I said i can't see him to defeat they're going to have to send someone round together cutting now even relieved you on so if someone could common tightly me there before that could be arranged to. You don't have any regrets that you never had a rapprochement talk. There was a couple of occasions when it nearly could have happened. I'm talking about just starved. Up the bus stop. It happened and then during that year sometime tune here. You can't get you'd hear messages or wherever and anyway of is in town one time and this friend won't come on that's been told to see liu and he should always down the ship or some osama they were having drinks and He was. He said that he thinks that the yes they would go for. A you know been been gun actually range the bulk in the shipping and water streets this man and then go and adding out for a couple of times so i mean i was hopeful that after this man on people pay will answer the phone. The hi this is somebody. Cbs in new york new wilco. Just to tell you we love you. But anyway we'll idea was didn't plan if an icon albans ended up with the first punch and and Anyway all kinds of grief from the one now open virgin. And i mean mild the producer he produced up for fear. Was i when when. I put a new span together to shortly after the bus. Stop roy and i'm still with united artists and tau told them local spend and so they sydow gama things and demos and when in and it was thick nile producer. We will we will work in there in the studio sunday said this one point one point that that will for a drink or something and i was. I was sitting vic and he said to me. Listen finishes roy. Penalty companies roy spent. Why william an awful. He's kind is gone now is it's listen you take a year off and politics thing because you are like to followed coming out of yogurt. You know he wasn't the so go to cya thing. Lots of someone said he could see that you really cared about me. And a remember him suns thing about you could talk the euro and now it's how year off a cliff. I'll be forgotten off. Go get and so. Didn't listen to just to throw that into the ground you you then you to rockets will. It was a. Did this one album for virgin. Ri- it didn't spend so much money. I mean mike and the album. The manner you know surgeons dining shape right. You go all rich war found by the open for place and four poster beds and richard branson coming in all only time right but of course i feel so i should actually go a lot of money. Come then stop in a fucking building society. But now i didn't and then there there and there are was and i didn't have a record day. Oh and you know. Tom of moved on the mighty. The is my was playing with noman and and just and then i'll just mind. This is like a pretty good thing. Money goes back folks years. Did that did that. Really come from georgia in the pocket. Absolute move. I mean when in my wonderful one of the first things brown was i didn't know nominal then took just knew the incident did to didn't wanna come down in the studio and didn't want to come down and mike mike a single with them back in may and i was apply that fucking year. Oh yeah you know. Because i remember i assume normal plane was watching telly one night and there was a live live. Shown from bellevue. Starting in the blockades next she each player was absolute robin fan. Also charlie charles drama in a man. You know that. I'll be in that rhythm section. I'm really good talent. You know that was and then down discovering noman these he's such a nice bloke truly is you slide his arm just go joy in his or something but he's yes and so in in fact offer to join the lockers permanently and by the with the as known actually become tom's under and Agriculture within that must have very strange. Mike can reference because it was full of of people coming into this. I think that the album was the the same was so. I think one of the reasons the in asked me was because chaz jonquet left. That would fill a how somebody was a bit naiman and apparently used to memorialize which produced the stuff to anyway. He was gone and what was happening. Down in the studio with the the sound the sound gara desk and i would. They were doing this hour. There wasn't a producer. And i mean all new boy. I'm not gonna just do for. The thing was though they were doing things not low our like iran everything with with bloody how you have headphones is crap because it goes through. He comes out to some blow to a desk. These if you have a natural sound to comply properly that everything screen right now. Charlie charles was into is. Tom was in like this in inside. This banker might blankets mattresses. And and and i mean you perth okay to hear. Someone initiated a headband. On he was it was it was all our. How do you feel that with some sound. God you know didn't sign off and it was like god. I love a lot of trouble and he took a long time to do your. You've been you you survey numbered. I ended up being completely different. What was funny lot be because the same those two chaz chaz it gone so the copywriter industries lyrics and that was clearly he would he would roy moore it because if he was a poem or something that you know eventually but instead to my listeners. The pop songs will you. Will you come round. And you've got to lyrics says should come come round and elegant royalty and like i say where you go if the the difficult thing roy is actually lyrics right and anyway so same in goes locally something it had these two shades hyper with these lyrics of these socks on site at just read from advanced on what i'm here i was too embarrassed to say ya gotten so already heard it took out. I will tell us how many and see if i'm come up with something tomorrow. Allow went in with these two psalms adoption. But it will. It was chaos. Mike anna album. Was he lots went with. It wasn't the easiest in could be. Yes he could be difficult if it had a drink too. Many which was usually one ecotopia devil really. I never met anyone so who could be so rude and offensive ever. I'm leaving. he he would love to get reaction. I mean the diplock ed's riot pick on the ones you know star on the masami martha choosing playbill the tears or some wretched road or something and they were not these things like issues that will. He's from bohol. Some the the bloggers got used to buck. The aim wasn't wonderful. He was he was every new thing but he did. Have this talk side. Right and he could. He would really utah. Singly would re really want upset. Somebody and honest at all us to think it was because he could never really believe in himself. The somebody just liked him. You know what i mean. He's just saying. I'm sure to push people say you still my mind you. There was dr staff now. For instance in the first time when round his ties offer joined the band and we were talking telling each other stories and he told me how you know. He got polio. When he was about ten. I think it was so he was. He was the takao to sco somewhere in the horrendous thing anyway. He's added leg in a calico when he was ten years old. So he's a cripple used to call himself the rose but then he started to use i when so when he was a little boy and he's walking along with his leg on initiative people would stare at him industry in a horrendous imagine for locate and he told me the now it become fines. They walked down the street. The paper nine not because he's crippled but because he's in jury you saved. It still still upset. You know he's wanting to understand. How will this insurance in. Just one other works quickly. The thing that's terrible is not as he could. He could be a bust -fensive and he's he's written things so vented the language you know for and johnson rough reasons to be cheerful part of this language now off the wilco spell in the blockades enforced a successful solo career. With a heavy touring schedule. New recordings were few and far between until two thousand fourteen when his album with roger. Daltry going back home became a huge hit. So you've written with a few people who would be classified as quote difficult recent years. You've by out. Roger told trae who has a reputation of being somewhat difficult. Probably don't fall. You would find that. When i bama's called in seventies forgive been fucking anyway i just i just go friend luke down in the country down news high-sticking and in a few there were a few rock and roll people living around there drama in any anyway rajab rojas pies nearby and she. She knew roach. I think our show hands him. Want in los angeles by a toll and then you are you at least talk roger. Roger was into photography and she was kinda us taking goods. Nyu's time patients this. She would always combat inside road. You're saying that you want to come over and come into trail. I used to offer anyway. I didn't go so i never met him. At that time i was so one. Step away from him. Before devolved cancer. Never older i had met. Roger acts in the world. -sarily one these somewhere and We've been talking to somebody should which wish to now together acid test to some our thinking of can cain light summit great a lot sixty s so around being music from the states know. Look i mean you have to midnight hour. There were millions of songs now. Yes you know. Does some proper proper tasty but india and nothing. I'm this game. It just kinda got left and then then the company is like the tensor. Roger sound roger roger and said. Let's do it so joe crime southville will do this. I'm gonna instead the do soul classics. Where i'm going to die. So did who statement which we cry so as to make an album we wrote it out you know so you know that will be my farewell and so we ran. It was rozier very busy man actually in any way we've had actually ten dollars so we intend women don't do author. Wha what would what. It was as lock our walk around bash. You know we started doing and dive arranger producer. And he's he was he was. I'm thinking this is just sounds good then earned a worked on and within ten dyes. Might this hour them and of course this. This was exactly the time when i was to die at work. Like you mentioned some that. Outside into the noah again you know instead of having. I'm gonna i'm gonna. I'm still pissed off. Look this math. Mainly spun version. Doing really i think so and it was like it was just it was just. Wow so be done we might disrupt hold can remember at sea when we decided to do it. And i'd i had. I think i think the record company first of all think sly out. He's just some trip will just doing. I won't and and emergency management any way then. We did this thing and realize it's really good will release it. And i think i in fact talking in the first week The first thing that our actually rebel come actually run out of records that suppress up you know. And and it was set in the set. In north. Chris evans track twice in succession. Only shell and this was a big thing. I think these by disney is number and son. Suddenly in fact was second best. Selling record. That year only figures george marco did or something and and of course may have come to in the martin door die. Think number two shops. No just these songs edge charles. Now i'm going to die so you know it was just crazy and then coast. That was that was on jabs at one really. Good thing as well isn't gonna work because greg our you know and does what he did for me. No know he's lad yes you'll be by blow your mind and you possibly the past rhythm section in the country. I need I'm in his account anyways. Like i mean. Especially because it's now in dylan dylan. What drama so you know a sir paper. We are not alone five minutes and then they end up doing badly in flying a proper band plan bank. And what's more let me show you the spend at least will walk on onstage described because noman domini so popular and you star in the amid such kick planet. Norman just real good and a yes. lucky lucky. lucky. I've been thinking about this because i can't say they're going to get pastas corona virus as i said i'm under special restrictions right so the finish accan- account catch this evening flight. Reduce it right down and still owning one person but but it's like they can get it right down and then if you're getting just a little sniffle now down. Four lungs full of phlegm owned. What i'm saying is i mean. How long does this go on down. Now how long long's it gonna be before by side. People who pay gigs lift do site. You let geeks. Who's one ago. Do i wanna capital. Okay up on that stage. Amore literally catch more deaths. Now we're out for signed better now but obviously you know. I think i've done enough now to prove our. We'll be gone to drop what we didn't mention briefly. We talk. wichita. I should mention. Is you know you want your beloved wife hiring out. How much do you still miss wilson. I she was a huge popular. I mean now. I mean it's fifteen years now thin and yes. Espouses possible for me to go through the how often alma. Sometimes my don't think of amina she died. She was in my mind literally older town all it all the time. All the time and Yeah absolutely autism. Just should move on. Read something very funny. Race knows looking through the golden letters pies saw a letter from somebody. Koboko johnson for west coast on it was. It was just before the shit hit the fan. I mean it was just something somebody wanting to borrow an amplifier from they were going to play the railway hotel in. I think so. I'd go might to would take this amp dance around. It was conifer earlier evening. Six o'clock or something rights. A few people people to dribbling in and of course they're going to come out. No i'm to the message on through them but what what's up. The fluid don't talk and Saw a few experience of these people who come in in re tweet in from and and and then it absolutely dawned on me the japanese man you think of it the the you can do a bell to me assistance and they're still instills still more sincere than the handshake is about. I mean a bell is just a grace for and to respect for and it's easier to it looks. It looks really good. I mean you come up and bow aggressively. You can you can. You can really really viciously. You could go on on aggressively. Can't be done because you are obey evasion yourself too. You know so so and so got this listen. Are we go there. We will start. We moved to ensure that non surgical. I've been to fascinating been lighting. Just want to thank you for doing this. You've been listening to pistola colds. thanks to wilco. Simon johnson. So we how at mark chaplain if you liked the song. Blow your mind that featured in this podcast by wilko's brilliant album nine. Thanks for listening.

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Bren with Judd Apatow on Vulnerability and Laughter

Unlocking Us with Brene Brown

1:03:35 hr | 7 months ago

Bren with Judd Apatow on Vulnerability and Laughter

"Hi Everyone I'm Brennan Brown and this is unlucky? nece today we're talking with Judd appetite, a filmmaker, actor and comedian. He's the founder of appetite productions through which he has developed and produced mini television series and movies that we have fallen in love with for me I love affair with Judd was freaks and Geeks. He's also done many films that I just. Borderline obsessed with Juliet, naked. May At last a portrait of evite brothers, which was a documentary, the big sick one of my all time favorite. Films. He was very involved in girls on Hbo Bridesmaids Forgetting Sarah Marshall. Now, indices territory here, Anchorman, the legend of Ron. Burgundy Times taken nights. He's just part of our culture and so many good and important ways. Jazz new film is a fictionalized account of comedian and actor. Davidson's life called the King of Staten Island. It's out now on premium video on demand, and I'm just honored to talk to judge about what's funny why it's funny and a thin line between humor in grief, and what it means to tell the story of our lives in a way. Where we can recognize ourselves and where we understand our shared humanity. Jet Appeti- y'All. Okay Welcome Jed I'm here happy to be here dreamed of being here. I had the same dream weirdly. I have a million questions for you. It can I just jump in. Please jump in I heard myself emotionally to up to you, so I I've never been more vulnerable than right. Now I've read the books and I feel like all of it has been in preparation for this podcast to this moment this man. We're going to go there. I want to start with asking your. Are you quarantining? I am I. Am in the House with the full family. As we speak, it is a roller coaster of emotions. Usually one of us is melting down per day, so it's like it's like a carousel. Three really happy family members at one person melting, and then it just switches, and we take turns, and that's how we get through. And you have days where everyone melts at the same time, or you have to a critical mass of melt. Oh yeah we have flash points. I'M A. Family we could see it coming like I think it's GonNa get weird this morning and the whole thing could blow for a moment. We've gotten pretty good at. How quickly get to. And understanding that this is a very unique situation that is highly stressful and I think that we're treating ourselves. And each other, well in the aftermath of those moments, because there's so many things you're deciding, you're deciding what safe and how to behave and how to move forward with what you need to get done under these circumstances. There's so much to debate about you know what to do and. How to spend your days so. But the other partner. That's really funny as both my kids are here, and it's so great having them here. If I'm not would be hanging out with us at all at this moment, right? Window twenty, two, the other one's seventeen, and those are certainly the ages where the kids are in saying. I wish I could spend more time with my parents. So. We're like this is all gravy time. They would never play board games with us. They would never have dinners. That lasted this long with us, so we're quietly appreciating all of those special moments God I now my twenty year olds is left to go back to. She's got an internship starting for the summer. It was the most amazing ten weeks. Let me. Ask you this question just before we got on because I am so curious about how this is working with everyone so. What if if there's a meltdown between you and Leslie During Quarantine? What is it going to be about? What is the meltdown going to be? What are the heart like I'll I'll go i. did the vulnerabilities like for me? It's Steve's a pediatrician and I want certainty from him about what we can do that safe and he can't. He's not doesn't have a crystal ball. Just has an educated guess, so if we're gonNA meltdown about something, that's either going to be because I can't get enough certainty out of him to make me feel safe or It's because. I just lose my shit about not being able to do all the stuff I normally can do at the rate I can do it and I need to blame. Someone like that's. That would be my. That would be my drill during this thing. We have a variation of that. which is I might watch too much of the news. Listen to too many podcasts. Where people recite medical information that I don't really understand. Then I get in my fighter flight mode and I walk in and take it out on everybody else. That seems to be. They they're getting upset about. Is You know they'll be hanging out having breakfast, and and then I might come in and just did you hear that? They don't know if immunity works for people who've had? Like. I'm just making a salad here. Can you just let me make myself? God You tell you something like? This this is the accidental excellent. Segue into everything I wanNA talk to you about including your new movie, the King of Staten, island which I cannot wait to talk to you about all of this so what you just did. Made me laugh. because. I. That's what I do like. I go in Steve's. Sitting there and Charles playing the guitar and everything's Okay and I'm like. We're all GONNA die because my terror is not sync up with their chill, moment and vice versa sometimes right I'm so. I have so many questions to you about funny about what's funny. What's not funny why we laugh and why you keep with so many of your films knocking me around a lot well I, think some of is recognition. Just seeing that someone has the same problems as you are the same arguments as you makes you laugh, so if you're having the same types of conflicts in your house as I, am in my house when I describe it, it makes you laugh also because you feel less alone in in some way. Yes so so I'm not crazy. Everyone's having these weird moments. Where were out sick? And I think a lot of mine movies are pointing out moments like that like this is forty. There's a a sequence where Paul Leslie go away for the weekend to a hotel. It's an hour away. They just get along great great, because the the kids are around, and they forget all the things that they always argue about, and they just look into Joe's eyes and they're like. Why do we ever fights and as an audience? You've had that experience of forgetting how many things you're forced to debate as parents and how it puts you in Conflicts A. Time and when you don't have to debate those things suddenly. You realize why you love each other, and that's usually the type of. Things that I'm trying to identify in right about? I guess it's one thing. Our work has in common. Is that talking about the unsaid in a way where people feel less alone like I, never I never thought. And I I think about comedy a lot I never thought about recognition being inherently funny. Are we laughing at the fact that we thought it was just us? Is that why we're laughing? Like? Why is recognition funny? I'm not really sure there was some people grana talking about like why things actually make people laugh I. The thing that people always quotas. There's a Simpson's episode where homer says. He's watching something in cracking up and he just goes. It's funny because it's true. Sometimes. Even that is all it takes to make you laugh as Oh my God I didn't know anyone else. In the world fought that way or did things I guess for instance in this is forty Paul. Read always sneaks into the bathroom just to play video games on his IPAD and pretends he's going to the bathroom for below for a long time, but really he's just on his ipad, and when we. We made that movie which was nine years ago when we shot it. No really talked about it now. We all know that we all do that right, but it was. It was one of the first time we had seen that joke in something. You know escaping to get on your phone. Your phone is a little weird mini vacation from the stresses of your life and how angry. That makes your spouse. And had it just pisses me off. Yeah, like not. Hardwood it is hard. I mean phone. Addiction is a big. Fight in our house and we're all addicted in different ways at different levels. Doing different things when person by be online shopping, and else's on tick, Tock and I'm tweeting, and and then we all get mad at each other, because we're on the phone, but we're all doing it that minds most important in is something not understood. Yeah, I'm like I'm trying to save the world here. Dances. I I'm looking at this list in my. You know my towel briefing binder. and. I read through this list of films that you've been involved in produce executive produced. What's the difference first of all? What's an executive producer and a producer? No one really knows, but. It's different in television television. The executive producer might be the show runner. The head writer you know sometimes it could be a high level, writer or someone production company in a movie. Producer is higher than the executive producer. Whatever that means it's on. Producers are creative. They're involved in all of the creative issues of the script and the movie. Some producers are very much about getting you the money to make the movie and making sure you spend it in the right way and some producers. Don't do anything. They might work work for a company that gave you the money and you never. You never talk to them after they write you the check. So. Everyone laughs about those credits because there is no way to know exactly what anyone does to earn them. Okay so I'm looking at your list and I. Don't know what all these things mean, but what I do know is that some of the funniest most poignant movies in my film consuming experience have been in these movies. I mean starting with I think my love affair with your work hard to have started with freaks and Geeks. Yes, but yeah, let me just how you like the big, sick. Juliet Naked May at last. Which is documentary on the Brothers who I love? How did you learn to understand people? That's a good question. I never thought about that well. I think. As a child of divorce you start paying attention, because feels safe, right? You feel like I. Don't know. If he's people are giving me the best advice because they're fighting with each other so clearly. One of them must be wrong in all these situations so it just. Disturbs your sense of I can rely on the guidance of these people because they ate each other. Then, what does that mean about me? 'cause if my mom as my dad like my dad, vice versa, so it scrambles your head a little bit, and it made me feel like. You better figure stuff out you better know. How you'RE GONNA survive in this world, and they were both very loving, incredibly supportive of everything. I wanted to do I think I've been able to do it because they always said you can do it, but as a kid I didn't really understand why they were finding I. Don't think I really learned what their fights were about in the actual reasons why they behave in certain ways. Till bright before my mom died maybe in the last couple of years in some conversations with my dad, so it was all a mystery to me. No one saddened me down and said here's what we're going through. Here's what we're fighting about. It was all top secret. And so I didn't know and that made me feel like I could entrust their opinions, because I know in shared anything with me and very rarely. Would they in a deep way go? What are you going through? Are you doing right so? I think they might have been. Too lost in the conflict to be able to make it about me, so I I felt at times. Ignored in that way, and as a result I started looking for answers, and a lot of those answers came through Comedians who complained about the world and tried to process everything that was unfair about the world's. I love the Marx Brothers George Carlin. People like that. WHO said, this is bullshit nets. These people are lying to you. And and I loved those people. And at the same time my dad would drive me at night to comedy clubs and couldn't have been more supportive and my mom got a job at a comedy club as a hostess after they got divorced and I always thought. She only got that job because she knew I wanted to watch comedy shows when I was sixteen. and. What could they have paid her? How much you pay them in his seat, people to comedy, Club that was only a gift to me, but she never said that she never said I took this job for you. An only decades later today realize it. Made me cry when I thought about it like. Oh wait a second. Only did that so I could had access to that world. She took this job. We owned a restaurant when I was a kid. And the bartender laughed and he opened up some comedy clubs in an after she got divorced. She got a job working for him, so she went from. A upper middle class person to kind of broke seating people in a comedy club for the bartender who used to work for her. And that was a tough time for her, and in the middle of it. She gave me this gift. And, that's what I saw comedians for the first time when I was sixteen and East End Comedy Club in Southampton where she was seating people so. I didn't then I became obsessed with like. How do you do comedy and I started interviewing Comedians, and then I got a job as a busboy at a comedy club. Just so I could watch the shows. I had a real hyper vigilance that was both healthy and really unhealthy. You shouldn't be fifteen obsessed with what your job is going to be when you. Yeah and It certainly helped get where I am today, but it also made me super crazy because it's a form of. WORKAHOLICS, it's like being in terror all the time that you're not going to be able to take care of yourself so the hardest part about it is. It's hard to shut it off. Because you're so driven but driven out of terror that. The world is GonNa fall apart, so it makes you a good producer, because you anticipate problems and a you're talking. One of the podcasts I forgot what the word was for someone. That is a two on top of everything else over functioning. Yeah, so it's all that is the super over functioning person, but then you're a pain in the everyone around you because you're always looking for a problem. That hasn't happened yet. You, literally trying to, it's like minority report. You're trying to find the problem before it happens and solve it before it happens, and you're rewarded in business, but it's not nice for your family to be around. I've got a question about that. I've got a question about your problem. Anticipate I know that like in in our work we call it for boating joy the terror that comes with experiencing joy too much. Too much goodness. That's hard. It's a hard one so. I WANNA think about this question because. When I look at all the films that you've been a part of when I I got to watch an early screener of the king of Staten Island which was. which is a perfect example of this question that I'm going to ask? I don't understand fully, and maybe it's not to be understood. The razor thin line. Between. What's a razor thin line of vulnerability that separates what breaks my heart, and what makes me laugh? I don't understand it. Helped me. Understand it like for even going back to freaks and Geeks, but also there's a scene in the big sick. That was like. There's a very thin line between. You're breaking my heart and you're making me laugh and it's so confusing. I never thought about it in those terms I i. do understand what you're talking about in the scene that comes to mind. When you say Chris a scene in freaks and geeks where bill is at a game of spin the bottle. And he feels unattractive to the girls. They're playing with all the pretty girls. And? They start playing another game seven minutes in heaven where you have to go in the closet was somebody and a spin the bottle and now the previous cheerleader has spent seven minutes in a closet with bill and she really doesn't want to. It's painful to see the look in her eyes a having to do this. And they go in the closet. And Dark, so they start talking and she's so pissed to be there. and. He's really shy and sweet. And they just start talking a little bit. and He makes her laugh. And in the dark. It actually makes me cry talking. She realizes he's cool, does in the dark she she decides she likes him and you feel. It happened in Martin Star Joanna Garcia geniuses doing it. And you realized the unfairness of that judgment that kids go through if they're like the you know the perfect idea of beauty to other kids, when in fact, these the cool kids in the world, and that's what the show is about like the people using outcasts are actually the cool kids totally and. And then there's like a moment where she kisses him and you believe it. that. In that moment, she saw the beauty in this kid and they have. They have a real connection just for a moment and. That's maybe the definition of it is very sweet, and it's funny, and it's heartbreaking it also kind of opens your heart up in a beautiful way, and that's a lot of ways what I'm attracted to in your writing, because you write a lot about vulnerability and shame. And that's what the fortieth virgin is about someone who's ashamed to admit that he didn't ever make a connection with somebody and he's afraid that if he does. It will go terribly wrong. And the personal decided Leica, they'll think he's a free and so as A. Comedic premise it sounds like a silly movie. Oh, it's the forty virgin. He's GonNa have sex, but really it's about chain. And it's about somebody who thinks that he's going to get confirmation that he's unlovable. And he's terrified to find out. He's a lovable. So that was our approach to it. Can we approach? Very, seriously, the psychology of this very seriously, and it's so funny, funny characters, but at the core of it is that issue. I see very little I. Don't think I've seen anything that you've ever done or been a part of. That does not have. Vulnerability. And heartbreak as part of the story I just don't. I mean I'm thinking of I mean one of my favorite movies that. My. Kids are like Oh my God. Are we really watching that again? I'm like Juliet Naked. Oh Yes yes. Yes. I mean all of those movies. are about people trying to connect movies direct by Jesse? Pratt's who were on a ton of episodes of girls, is great director, and I think we all connected also to the idea of like really annoying. Pop Culture obsessed person. WHO's drunk driving everybody away with their craziness and I? I'm always interested in in music. You know we did walk hard and Popstar. y'All read runs a record label in this is forty, so I'm always interested in musicians and in a lot ways. That's what. Like musician in a way, you know I think people are attracted to beat the same way. They're attracted to certain. You know vulnerable rockstars who who feel yes woo-hoo seem like they're wounded in some way, and you're fascinated to hear their stories from them and to see how they're doing and how they're a and. That must be the kind of character that I'm most interested in I. Mean I think I always think that most of mine movies are just about. People trying to get through the day. They don't need villains. They don't need superpowers. It's hard enough just to get along with the people around you or find love or have the confidence to like be around anybody. You know that's a very difficult thing. And so as I make more movies, I do see. What similar about them and that must be something that I'm working out. In some way through writing these types of stories about people. They're just deeply human. Tell everyone about the premise of the king of Staten Island. What it's about Davidson Story. Tell us about in realized you came to it. Really Pete Davidson's father was. A firefighter who died on nine eleven. And people seven years old when that happened. And it led to a lot of issues that anyone would have if they were seven years old and had to go through a trauma that also became a national trauma that also never really goes away. People talk about it constantly, and we would talk about that at length. I would always say to him. You know my mom died. Twelve years ago, but no one talks about it. So it's the I'm not reinjured injured by it. On a daily basis right I go, I go years without someone mentioning my mom to me and I think it's an experience that. Most of us. Know nothing about when something like that is constantly re imprinted on you every single day of your life. and. So, we started talking about. Making a movie about what would happen if he didn't find comedy, because in real life, he's a very ambitious. person if he didn't find comedy and he was living at home, his mom is really smart. District goes to college and his mom decides that maybe she should be more social and falls in love with another firefighter. And now the slacker kid is really having a lot of problems has the try to bond with this potential Stepdad? Who He hates and forces him to confront everything that has been an obstacle in his life and bill Burr plays The firefighter, he's one of our great comedians and Rizzuto may places, mom, the Shamisen, the movie and a daughter Montalva Bell Paulie, and Ricky, all of people, and it is a you know the rare comedy which is an exploration of grief. And it's about you know how to finally. I gotta say that again. They're rare comedy. That is a exploration of grief, yes. What part of that is rare? I. Think that it's a you know. It's a difficult subject to attack directly and usually people don't do it in a comedy. In it has been attempted, but to go all the way into it where you really feel it. Is Not something that people tried to do that. Often degrade example of is terms of endearment, which his always the mood. I. Look to is one of the greatest movies of all time. Because it's human, it's so alive, and it's about so many different things and family, but is also a comedy about cancer and. James Brooks always hits that. Of Comedy, and drama, So perfectly and. He someone that I've worked for the I, really look up to his. His work has been a big inspiration to me and that's what we wanted to do with this movie we wanted to. To make to tell a story about how someone might grow how how he might get to the next place. So I would say this one comment, it's not they won't be I. Don't know if it's an aside, but I will tell you that when I was watching it and your daughter playing the smart younger sister goes off to college. I thought whatever that thing is that I can't name Judd has an is isn't all his films MoD has it. When she? You couldn't take her eyes off of her in that film like when she was. Talking about. The attention, that? Pete's character in the film demands of everyone in the family, and now who's going to worry about you all the time and don't take your crazy should out on mom and like. I've been in those conversations like it was as real as me sitting here right now and I guess. I just thought well. She's got her dad's. Whatever that thing is where you can straddle that razor line of vulnerability around. The knowing laughter of what it means to be universally human, and this is hard shit right now. Whatever that thing is that you have she clearly has. Well, you know. The main thing with ceiling. That is that Pete. Is a very. Grave, writer and artist, because he observed something about a dynamic with his sister that he expressed to me and Dave Cyrus wrote the movie with him. And he found a way to communicate something. That maybe is hard for him to just say in life, which is I understand your frustration with me I. Understand that I take a lot of the oxygen in the room and in the family and. So Pete has talked a lot about their ways to connect and apologize to people in his family that are easier to do by writing seen like that so that his sister can feel heard and understood that it's easier to make a scene of it than just to walk in her room and. Talk to her about it. And that's it's been fun about this. He Paints Beard, really smart and deep about owning up to things and sharing them and finding a way to make them both funny and entertaining the same time. I mean and the generosity of his writing. About himself was was really big to me. Sure because he doesn't have to share any of the thing about Pitas, he has dealt with a tragedy by being completely honest and transparent where most people might push it down and to suffer with it for the rest of their lives Pete. has shared it and been open. Pete never puts on a false. Mask. He tells you what he's feeling. Old Time is completely open, and that's the way he approaches life, which is if I'm GONNA bad mood. You'RE GONNA know if I'M GONNA. You're GONNA know it. I'm not going to pretend at all and especially as a writer. It's incredible because he is willing to go as deep as you can go with him, and he does understand the. Cathartic nature of that, and also how important it is for other people like he, he is aware that it helps other people through these things for him to show them how he's feeling. Because the movie's fictional nothing in the movie happened right, but it's true it's all true. It's all emotionally Joe and yeah. In Pizza is. It's almost like the movies part documentary feel him. Throughout this performance and it's it's. It's great and MoD MoD. Takes after her mother much more than me. Leslie is a very raw present real actress who also knows how to be funny simultaneously, which almost no one can do, leg play straight and hardened funny and truthful all the same time and say yeah, it's it doesn't even make any sense. Even know how it happens. It's just it comes out both funny and heartbreaking. Simultaneously. When I was watching, it's funny that you said that about the documentary. When I was watching the film I, laughed hard, and music is a big part of it to this. It was for me reminiscent of watching the big sick like when I was done with both of those films I had cried i. have laughed a lot, and I just felt better about people in general. Just the human race I think in general. I also felt. I I left that foam. The king of Staten Island feeling. Protective? Of Pete. Sure that was so that we talked about that. When you watch the movie. You feel like someone in Pete's life. Tracking him worrying about him writing the ride with Pete. here's where I'm scared for him. Here I'm rejoicing about him and. That definitely was what we were going for. which is when sometimes when someone struggling everyone around them becomes consumed with helping them or just being worried that they're going to be okay. and. That's something that appears wanted to write about because he has a real awareness that his mom has been such a hero to him that she was just so there for him dedicated her whole life work as a nurse at a school and an emergency room, simultaneously for Muslims childhood as that was true. CARE. CARE Yeah to take care of him and his sister, she just really gave her whole Acta maitre. The he was okay, and his sister was okay and allow movies an acknowledgement of that what that Tuck and also a way of saying I know I've been hard on you. And you know for young man. To be able to get to that so early in his life is kind of incredible. I Don I don't know how took me. To still. Working, yeah yeah to come to that wisdom. I was laughing. I said you know most of swelled goofy movies before we try to do something this emotionally ambitious. We don't do it first. So. Rewrite pretty remarkable. The, acting in the film. Pete's and everyone else is really. Stirring. Don't you think it's I? Mean I guess you would say yes, but weren't you stirred by the performances? Y-. First of all when you have Marisa Tomei in the movie shoes, one of our greatest actresses and Her performances so so good even when we saw it on the big screen when we would test the movie. We would notice things that she was doing that. We didn't even notice on the screens in the editing room. We had to see it. Forty feet high, and then we were like. Wow, just the emotion the little details that she was sharing. Would suddenly become visible hold. Other layer would reveal itself and I think that she was so good that it made. Everyone wants to get to her level I think she was the Northstar accuracy. Yeah, just she did that. She did so much internal dialogue on her face. Yes. And some of it you don't know until you get an ending that even did it. You can't even tell us at what happened, and then you would start cutting together go. Oh, my God, the Good Marissa's did here and bill. Burr is really incredible actor, and he's so funny, but then he so emotionally accessible and sweet in a surprising way, and it realize he has you know. He loves Pete Pete Leads Bill, so even the movie. They dislike each other for most of the movie. You feel this affection chemistry. Between them, because the movie is a little bit of a love story between a kid, trying to decide if he's going to open his heart to a potential Stepdad. Is, and you. You so hope that he gets a dad. And this is not keys, Jesus. This is not an easy setup because it's not just any Stepdad, he's a firefighter. This was an introduction for me, too bill Burr. He's another person. I couldn't take my eyes off of when they're having that scene the pool. Yeah. There's a big fight scene with just let it go on each other. Really scream at each other, and it falls apart and yeah he. knew he somebody that has focused most of his career on his stand up in the as all these etchells, Netflix specials and their route. There's good as they get, but he's also had this other gifts, which it hasn't been his main focus, so I got lucky to get him and to be able to show all other. Of Him in the mood, because so much of what we do comes out of improvisation and rehearsals by, and so if we write the script and everyone performs at. A lot of this is discovered because we want to create space for something magical to happen. We want to play a little bit. We want them to really feel the scene they go. Know I wouldn't go that way. I would go a different way. There was a scene where. Bill and Marissa are having coffee in the first time. They they just got to know each. Did they just met each other? Under very negative circumstances, and they begin to flirt. And they're both uncomfortable. They haven't been in this situation for a long time. and. We were trying to get the scene writing. We couldn't really get it right because I had written it wrong. I wrote it the way I would always write it as a never. She Guy who just keeps making jokes about how bad he is added, and then bill pulled me aside he goes. You know what I wouldn't be bad. I, I'd be confident. That's not that's not me. And I said okay. Let's try, let's see. And then it was fantastic, but I was just writing him like. He's neurotic Jewish from Long Island on some level I'm making the mistake of making a knee. You know apologetic and terrible and making mistakes unease like no that that isn't I would just be confident and then when he did it how mercer reacted. So funny and she's just blemishes and yeah a fighter from Boston. Who Lives on staten? Island would not act the way I would act, and that's why I want to rehearse a lot and I want to let people make a big contribution in a writing contribution because they know things that I don't know. People seemed very in their power. So that makes sense to me like that. Coffee shop scene is kind of where I I was because they meet under not great circumstances. Funny Circumstances I mean funny. Slash like. F- funny circumstances is apparent funny, but that's where I kind of fell in love with him with the coffee shop scene. Yeah. See He's a good guy, a million yeah. For me I've always been addicted to reading self help books right? I started going there when I was in my early twenties after really bad. Break Up. And go broke up and she said. One day. You're going to realize how little you know right now. Which devastated. You one day. You're going to realize how little you know, Jesus, that's tough. I also had a girlfriend Riley time say. I just feel like I'm in the lake and I'm going to lake I'm swimming in the lake, and I'm like John Getting the lake and you're on the dock and you're on the docket. Come on in, and you know what after a while I'm getting out of the lake. Two you. Dot Com. Yeah, we've all dated the DOT guy. I started going to therapy, and I remember the first. There was I went to had a little doll. He called little buddy and he'd make me talk to my child, and you behold this. Doll and just go how you doing little buddy at have conversations like inner child cut mercedeses is very valuable, and so I went to all sorts of different therapist, but. I think as a writer. I Love self-help books, because there's always great examples of fights and conflicts is always stories. Oh, you know. Rachel fights with her boss. Because when she was young, her father abandoned the family so when things come up at work she's sensitive or whatever the story is in a self help book so I always read tons of 'em because I felt like it helped me understand people and characters and what? What their motivations are, and then hopefully it helped me you know in life absorbing a lot of it and to this day. I you know I'll. I'll go deep. Really think about these books, your books out of big impact on me because I never thought about those words like vulnerability wasn't in my lexicon of how he looked at myself like fear of being embarrassed fear, shame fear being found out. Fear of confirmation that I'm lesser that an F. Yeah, and just understanding bad or just having the courage to take risk because I I write about that lob how hard it is to put yourself out there and take a risk. How much you have to like yourself to take a shot to see if you can do something, or if you can connect with somebody and I think a lot of that comes up in a lot of moves how hard it is to be! Honest with people and speak your truth because you're so afraid. They're going to say the thing you don't WanNa hear. You know it's what's weird about that. Is You to me? Take those moments. I'll tell you who is who is vulnerability in shoes. Gary Channeling. Yes. Yes, and I learned a lot from him because he always said you know people wear masks. Most of the time people are not honest almost all the time. They are trying to present themselves in a certain way as confident or whatever they're doing is really not how they're feeling inside, and when they are genuine with with you. When they are honest, it's shocking. It never happens and when it does, it's a huge deal someone to look at you and go I love your arm afraid of this. And that was his theory, but with Pete. I think it's a little bit different. Because Pete's holding is that he's always transparent. God's not what he's. Had So, it's funny, because after all these years, I finally worked with him. Who is the opposite of Gary which is, he refuses to wear a false mask. At any moment, that's just not how he engages the world, and it makes them feel better to not have to have the stress of being full of it, and that the Larry Sanders. Show is about all these acting like they're doing great. Who actually are into their ego maniac and they're not happy. The ratings are high, and they're on top of the world, and it was a completely different idea. Eh reminds me and Chris Rock said when you meet someone for the first time you're not meeting them. You are meeting their representative. Yes. That's it. Yeah. It's interesting I, asked you to repeat the part about the rare comedy that tackles grief because maybe. Maybe you in that. Senate said something. That I was trying to say from the very beginning which is. In the films that you produce executive, produce right. I'm thinking also about your role and girls. Because this was certainly true. I watch I've watched that whole thing from tip to tail five times. Probably it doesn't have to be bullshit to funny, and in fact, the true or it is and the more willing you are to look at grief invulnerability and fear and shame. and not use humor, self deprecation, but to laugh about the universality of the thing the fact that we're laughing at. We thought it was just us like. It makes comedy a very powerful tool in the world doesn't. Yeah I. Think so. I always say to people. I think the more specific you get, the more universal you get, so pete story might feel very specific to him connected to this national tragedy. But when you really look at it, we all have our own personal. Massive tragedy, any loss in our life is as data us as pedes. Loss is to him, and so by hearing about him in his story. You know in a all thing. Yeah, I have a bunch of those you know sudden loss people. I cared about suddenly being gone, and so you relate to him. In a Lotta ways and That is what we're always trying to do I long time to understand that I really thought that my life was boring and wasn't worth writing about. And when I started writing about it, just telling the details of things that had happened. You know. The doctor showing up for the birth of our child and being mean to us. Just simple things! I realize Oh, every so many people have stories like that and. And that that is where all the good stuff is, it's it's in the simplest things. It's in talking to Maud about technology and her, not wanting to play with sticks yeah, and rather. She'd rather beyond her phone. And so that's what I've tried to focus on most of the time. Sometimes, I, just WanNa be stupid to and just just come up with similar things yeah yeah. Okay so the king of Staten. Island's coming to us. What's it like burning a movie in the world during a pandemic? I try not to think about it when when all this started on the least born in the world right now. Is this movie so I'm going to try to give zero energy? To the idea of when it will be seen. And so I just shut my brain down and thought well. I like the movie. It sitting on someone's computer somewhere at universal it'll see the light of day at some point and I tried to just focus on more important things, and then when we started talking about how. To release it. It became very clear that the movie in a Lotta ways is about what we're going through. Right now it's about first responders and nurses and firemen and people are willing to die. To help other people people who? Are Willing to take that risk. It is about heroes in about the families of heroes and how it affects them. and. It is a movie was made in tribute to Peace Mom and dad and. Because it's about grief and sudden loss. I thought well. Isn't that what everyone's going through right now? And wouldn't it be so wrong for me to hold on to this movie and wait a year till all this passes because I wanted to be seen in a theater. I mean it needs to be seen right now. On some level hopefully makes people laugh and ups and processes so I I became a big proponent of getting out there as soon as possible because I thought strangely, it's a movie that can helpful right now I. Hope I actually I thought the same thing when. When I was watching it, there's there's a pretty poignant scene is is threaded through a part of the movie. I think it's in the trailer as well where Pete is saying heroes like my dad, firefighters shouldn't have families. This, not fair for the for heroes to families, because sometimes that he rose. Don't come home, and then then what and I have to say Steve Semi in this movie. You. Know in his explanation about yet. There are heroes. There are people that are putting their lives on the line. I had to tell you that like I just kept thinking about. Everything that first responders, Physicians Nurses Social Workers People that are choosing right now. I just think the timeliness of this movie. Is Important. It's important. Album make the the main thing. Is People happy? You know roll out of stuff to watch, so I hope. that it it gives them a break, but at the same time. Provides you know a whole bunch more than that and I'm very proud of improvident Pete allowed me to be you know involved in it, and what's funny is a lot of what's good about. The movie is also result of just me talking to. Many different therapists over the years. About all these issues and trying to be sensitive and an understand and you know there's a speech about what is a hero in the movie. Some of it's in the in the trailer, and that came out of a conversation with my therapist. We having conversation about. DIS- character a no, we would just kicking around. What what does this mean And what do you say to somebody that experienced something like this? About it and what we were talking about was. That there is no easy solution to it. The World Needs Heroes and sometimes. Bad things happen and sometimes people are left in the wreckage of that, but the world does not function without heroes. A it doesn't work. We must those people when they should be allowed to have families, but when you're a child and you lose a parent. It's hard to understand why they would put themselves at risk in service of other people when it is really the most noble thing anybody can can do and one of the most powerful parts of Megan's where he was being around the firefighters, and we would be shooting in a firehouse and we're making our little movie. And we're all dressed up for the movie. And you know ten feet over. There are the real firefighters and every once in a while, the bell would go off and they would leave. And it was scared. They were in the movie. It made us all. This is real I. We don't. We didn't know where they were going. What were they going to do and we were just so impressed by their. Courage and also their good nature. They love it. They love helping people. That's what I got out of being around the firefighter community. They're not burnt out there. Not Tired. They're not over it. From the beginning of coming firemen to the end, everyone I met couldn't love it more. The guys don't. They don't want to retire. The, they they're so proud of what they do. Yeah, and they love taking care of each other, and that's what we tried to capture in the moving. Can't fact check a rumor sure? Is it true that Steve You semi was a firefighter he was. He was a firefighter four or five years. Before his acting career took off and I think he was trying to act at the same time, and a bunch of the people in our movie are real firefighters who also act who hitting firefighters. Yeah, and so we really wanted him in the movie because we knew that he stayed very close with the community. And does a lot of charity work, you know. He was down at Ground Zero during the cleanup after nine eleven, and we knew that was sold porn to him, and that he would add such gravitas to the movie and such she your compassion. and. It's a really special performance. Thank you just felt like in the firehouse. You're one of the people in the firehouse. Say One more thing about my last seen. If, you'll indulge me remedy. My Rapid Fire Tin Questions. Okay, the scene where peace riding in the truck on a call. I don't know what you call it a call I think it's fall. Yeah, and the way that was shot where I'm watching him watch. In this way that felt like the first time what his dad did every day and what it meant and the gravity of it and the. I just thought the way that was shot was like. I just had goosebumps from head to toe like. Seeing This thing. Like I was with them for the first time watching it and I just again went to the generosity of Pete's performance and his willingness to do that when that's a real story blew me away. Well are cinematographer was a Robert. Who's just the great cinematographers of all time who did? Michael Clayton and mission impossible and the more identity, and there will be blood in boogie nights. He's just one of the. The most talented people I've ever been around so anytime. People say the movie looks good I. Always think well. I didn't get better. I just hired Bob. That's why that works well, but. We also. Knew that the idea of peed going on a ride along watching firefighters work would have a lot of resonance and was a tough scene to shoot it. It was. A hard day to do that. And yes, it was great that Pete had the courage to pass the show that because I know. Someone said to me a very long time ago. They said you know the greatest gift you can give. Other people is your story. And this is a great example of that because he doesn't have to do it right and it's also. Know there was a chance. The movie would be terrible. I. Mean we could have made a really bad movie. Trying to use the materials of his life both fictional, non fictional and Most movies are bad like most movies are bad because they're hard to make. It rarely falls together perfectly, so many things have to line up for a movie to actually be what you hoped. It would be so. So the risk of doing this is much larger than anyone really stands and. and. I'm so glad that he did and I was terrified. The whole time we made it that somehow I would let him down yeah, and and not be able to get across what he was hoping to get across. Oh I Hope People Watch it. I think it's smart. I think it's moving. and. I think it's so deeply human. And there's a love story, and there's grief and there's. Trauma, but there's funny and I don't know I just I thank you for it and send my thanks to Pete for it. Is it without generous. Okay ready for my ten rapid fire. Okay, I am ready. Fill in the blank for me, vulnerability is. A problem that does not seem to be going away from me. That's funny. Your call to be brave. Your fear is real. You've got to do something, but you can feel the fear in your throat. What's the very first thing you do? I try. To realize that if I attempt to push the fear away. It will get worse and I try to make friends with an an allowed to be there. Something people often get wrong about you. They don't realize that deep within me is an athlete. Read noise as there is a judge urine an athlete you, don't you? You'd like to talk about it and I can tell you've got an athletic body I. see you out there. There's an athlete in you, and that has yet to be proven, but I like to Saint I like it here. I show you binged in loved. The last show that I binged to end loved was fleabag. I never know what I'm doing so I a lot and I feel my way through things in a very sloppy manner, and then I try to make them appear not sloppy when edited together fleabag feel so well written and precise, but at the same time it feels totally spontaneous and lose perfectly acted, and you would never know that it's that precise, and it's so funny and deep and smart that it's almost hard for me to watch. Because It can make me feel bad about myself as a person. There are certain things that you know some. Terrible it gives me confidence I'm like yeah, yeah I'm good looking at this piece of garbage. I should be in this business. Then sometimes you see something remarkable, and your dislike should i. just quit needed over. Is it over? I so admire what she and everyone involved in that project accomplished and someone who tries to do that type of work. I'm so aware how amazing it is that that show is. Brilliant. It's amazing for sure. Tell me and movie. You will never turn off if you pass it going flipping through channels being there. The Hal Ashby Peter Sellers movie. But a man who? is a simple minded man in everybody noses from watching television, and at the end, a group of rich people turn to each other and say. Maybe we should make him the president. So. Do the math. Worth watching again, let's say that. Prophetic maybe a concert. You'll never forget. I was hosting a benefit for. Teen Cancer America, which is Roger Daltry from the WHO's. Charity. and. He had his band there and there was an auction to sing a song with them to duet with Roger Daltry I, said island and donate to charity. This has been my dream since I was eleven years old, and then I saying my generation. With Roger Daltrey and I'm going to say it right now. I nailed it. Oh, did you really do this story? That was the best moment of my concert going. Life and I tried to twirl the microphone like Roger Daltrey and almost bashed in the head. Villa problems. Favorite? Meal. My. Meal. Is Chicken Parmesan, in any setting from any restaurant homemade the worst place in the world or the best place in the world. Chicken Parmigiana Spaghetti always makes me happy. Okay, what's on your nightstand? There are eleven bucks on my nightstand at all times, none of which I will ever read there is some water earplugs. There is a face mask to sleep and. What other this chapstick! Lately I get older. I cannot sleep if I don't have chapstick, and I always have the untethered soul. The Army I don't know if you've read that book. Michael Singers Book The untethered soul. Now that book has helped me a lot like those like Eckhart Tola. Can yes I detail in that book talks about? That your mind thinks it's job is to solve all your problems all the time to make sure every interaction is perfect. Everything you say is right. Everything they say is right, and you're driving yourself crazy thinking it's possible and that you need to observe your mind trying to do this and. Have Distant. Just observe like go crazy. My mind is thinking could get all this done. And if you have some distance in a sense of humor about union, let go of it, and that's been a helpful. Philosophy for me Oh my God. This is my moment right now. This whole podcast interview right now as I need to read this book, it's very good. Yes, the untethered soul. He has a lot of youtube videos where he talks for a long time and what I need to go to sleep, he has. Like twenty saying, but he also puts me to sleep. That's good. It'd be too for me. A snapshot of an ordinary moment in your life are really ordinary moment. It's really joyful for you. Every morning my family usually winds up around the kitchen island and we make. Can I of a cameo from my wife. I Love Leslie. Goodness. Oh my gosh, no I love you by. You. Very. She is so. Chatty got me thing. We spent a Lotta time with you. You know we do our oprah Sunday Show, super? Bowl, Sunday yeah. That's that's a common Sunday morning. That wasn't what I was GONNA say would win less walked in what we you around the kitchen island when Leslie walked in I was going to say that almost every morning. We make avocado toast ourselves. We don't know how to cook anything. then. It was like the best chefs is the best I have to say. She's the best, but I know how to make Avocado Toast, which is basically smashed avocado and putting a piece of bread, so it's it sounds much fancier than it is, and also I don't make anything else so about ninety five percent of the time. My children are fed the same breakfast and. That's like when we will sit and chat talk about. What's coming for the day? Okay last question. What's one thing? You're deeply grateful for right now? I am grateful that we're all here together and happy and healthy and. Have our wits about us for the moment. I don't know what I don't know what an hour from now is going to be, but I know right now it's were even keeled and in a in a good place during a difficult moment and and hopefully. It will stay that way and hopefully everybody out. There will be well and take care of themselves and take care of each other. You know the thing you. We see the engine where it says. Everyone is going through something you know nothing about so be kind. And I feel like that's all you really need to know about anything. That's everything, isn't it? Chat appetite. Thank you so much. Thank you so much. Yeah, the new movie king of Staten Island he can watch it from the safety of your own home. which is I, think pretty remarkable gift. Well I hope people enjoy it. And if you don't tell me yeah, keep it to yourself. Big thanks to jet for this really for me, compelling conversation. About maybe it was about movies. Maybe it was just really I think we talked about life and I think we talked about. The power of knowing laughter the power of recognizing ourselves. And the laughter that comes when we think wow. I thought I was alone. I thought it was just me. If you want to follow judd on twitter. It's at Judd JD APP towel instagram at Judd Attala, again J. U. D.. W. And just a reminder that the king of Staten Island is out now on premium video on demand. and. Thank you to judd. For the films for the movies for walking with us. On what feels like a journey that is equal parts right now, pain and tragedy. And Joy and laughter. I think comedy's really important I. Still don't fully understand it. And I still don't fully understand the deep vulnerability. Of, comedy but I'm just. Becoming increasingly convinced. That maybe comedy. And why and how laugh? Isn't fully figure out a little. 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The Best and Worst Super Bowl Performances of All Time

Rolling Stone Music Now

36:35 min | 2 years ago

The Best and Worst Super Bowl Performances of All Time

"Hey, I'm Brian Hiatt. This Rolling Stone music now in the studio with Andy green, David Brown, and rob Sheffield we're gonna be talking about the Super Bowl because I love sports so much. I know everything about sports, I know many facts about the Super Bowl like who's playing don't even task me. But I think just to maybe fit more than a theme of this show as much as I'd like to talk about sports for an hour. I think we're actually going to talking about musical performances on the Super Bowl and the best and worst ones, which rob Sheffield. Of course, did the definitive list of the best and worst Super Bowl performances. And there have been some great ones than some unbelievably horrible ones when you consider the impact of this show. It's incredible. How horrible some of these performances have been I think on that note, we should start with the black eyed peas in two thousand eleven. As dire is really the whole performance. Was there is one moment in it? That cannot be surpassed. But just to build up to it. So blockade peas just perform some black-eyed peas stuff. It was already kind of going off the rails at the beginning. When you see Furby attempt this dance move. That's just basically like she sort of shuffles back and forth in this uncertain unsteady way than does it again. And then looks really proud of herself. It's really bizarre. But then about couple minutes in we hear this. All right. I can explain this. I can explain this. I know what they were thinking they're thinking, it's a hip hop year. We need to appeal to rock fans. So who embodies rock a person planet slash and always says, yes, let's bring slash now. Remember, what axles critique of slash was back when they're a strange, which is that he cheapened his talent by playing with everyone from space ghost to whoever and axel looking back may have had a point the YouTube comment on this just you know, you can imagine what they're like. And then there's one guy's like, well, at least they weren't lip synching, which which is a good point at least. Although I think if there's one performance that shows the virtues of prerecorded vocals, and might be the one I think the standard thing halftime shows is the music, it is prerecorded and the vocals are often live which can be a huge problem if you're Roger Daltry or for years, something, rob you seem still pretty traumatized by this performance. What do you take away when they started doing the dirty dancing? Love theme. I've had the time of my life. I said, well, the black-eyed pea. Fees are doing I've had the time of life. It's might be the most horrible thing. I've heard in my life, and then slash enters the scene, and it was traumatizing actually wanna take a side because I've been obsessed with this point in dirty dancing, which is set and like what nineteen sixty one or something. Yeah. Sixty three and the are dancing in the movie to music has audible drum machine in it. And that bothers me so much. It's deranged. Does that bother you? I have to say it does not bother me. It does not impossible. There's even the joke when he says, I gotta get the sheet music for this song. There could not be a more made in the eighties sunk. Yup. The fact that really of all the songs from the dirty dancing soundtrack verbiage, slashed love is strange that would have been much cooler dated be my baby that would have been awesome. But I had the time of my life. That was not the time of mine and then sweet seldom on Furby. She's trying frigging always always tries always works. It. I'll give forgive full points for effort. I would have to blame the other black-eyed peas, quite frankly, I was a big fan of cele- career. Now, he's got the black eyed peas kind of held her back. Interesting. Not for his finest moment. But. So there were a lot of other performances that are truly baffling to me. There was one that actually found defensive I have to admit which is at forgotten until I read Rob's piece that in nineteen Ninety-seven the blues brothers or the purported blues brother's because no John Belushi headline the Super Bowl halftime show. And they saying Solomon Burke songs stuff, and their special guest briefly was the actual Dame's Brown, and you know, you can say people are to walk now or whatever. But one of the good things about two thousand nineteen. There's no way that shit whatever happen now, and it's really offensive. You had the actual Brown and not to mention Solomon Burke was alive. And well like why not have the actual people who made this music performance. Like, what the hell was that? When you have a shot at in Belushi. It don't turn that James Brown. You can wait just a sheer number of people who are alive at that time who are so legend who are no longer with us. There's no need to go through the really sad list of names of people who could have been there singing these songs instead of it cannot be repeated often enough Jim Belushi, Dan Akre. Croydon and John Goodman, all of whom have done great things in their career two out of three of them have done. Great things. This was something. They should have known was not very James. I think that the logic of the time was that the big sequel is coming out soon that others two thousand even bigger than the first one. So let's go big on blues. Brothers blues. Brothers two thousand nineteen Ninety-seven come out in two thousand. No, it was before it was more. We're getting named for thousand long before the fast. There's all kinds of stuff. Let's take a step back as you out. Rub. It took them a very long time to realize that they can do anything really with this slot with this slot that the whole world was watching really strange to think that like well into the eighties. When the Super Bowl is getting more high stakes every year that it took them so long to realize that just putting anything even if it's terrible at halftime. Besides a marching band or an Elvis impersonator or Carol Channing RIP, but all the stuff that they had up with people every year that they just had no idea that people were watching this in this was space. They could actually use rather than just like letting it slide and then nineteen Ninety-two in living color do their live comedy special. And that completely changed the world in so many ways and everybody switched away to seeing in living color. Do these football team sketches live and just the idea of doing that was just really shocking, and then there'd be some Butthead which the button bowl, which I remember watching some host. I have time. So the battle that was viewers became huge. So they felt really compelled to go big to compete. With Beavis and Butthead in living color. American culture was so strange remains. You know, there's a year that was pretty good glorious, Stefan. And Stevie Wonder, and I was watching this performance, and it's not Stephens only Super Bowl performance. She actually did several. But so is nineteen ninety nine the beginning of this performance is one of the most baffling things. Maybe someone could explain to me what the hell was going on. I never seen it before this week. And I was genuinely unsettled by it. Let's hear that the very beginning. It's going to be a party Miami star. AT? You haven't changed? Okay. So that deeply scary thing was ET saying Ola, Gloria why was he t- there? Maybe it was the American icon. Maybe it was the was the release that wasn't until a few years later when you think of partying Miami style. You think it's terrifying? I don't know what that was. They bought it back into theaters. But that was probably like that was later anyway, that was friend name. But yeah, contrast that with the Ben Stiller intro to the instinct Aerosmith one which I think was one of the best intros that parody of him as like they're jumping around. That's one of the great ones as points out. That was always my favorite and Brittany and Harrison the t shirt in the sock on the hand is one of the indelible Super Bowl images. Yes. It was very MTV. It was a like the style show where she sings walked away with a sock on her arm with Aerosmith and sink. It was a rob Sheffield. Just sensational thing for you. Right. Yeah. It was kind of a fever dream brought to life. Oh, there's Nellie. There's Mary J Blige. How could this just keep getting more? Awesome. Ben Stiller going that in some. Rob points out that or theorizes that Brittany's role was she was in fact, the Missy who was ready to play from walk this way that that was the role. She was playing which I I interviewed Steven Tyler of few days later, and he said that he really wanted to sing the line eight see nothing until you're down on a Muffin, but she was not going near that one. I would pay money to watch the behind the scenes interaction of Steven Tyler twenty year old Britney Spears, it's a little bit ominous. I dunno Nellie was there. And that was a moment that really captured guys of that year of two thousand and one and the all could be that good. I would support fully the Super Bowl experience, and they were headed in that direction till the Janet thing happened when they made a huge course correction will basically what was going on is that producers from MTV were actually handling it literally was MTV thing. And then after Janet injustice that was that they're like we're going back to classic rock. Mccartney was that following you're huge change. It was like just McCartney's opposed to Aerosmith and Brittany and insane and Nellie than it was just McCartney without belaboring. Let's talk about Justin for a minute. Was that performance working for you until the line that you use was you've seen the nipple on the damage done, which I guess credited to one of our beloved Dana. Absolutely. He insisted that every time that that was ever covered. Anytime we ever mentioned. That Super Bowl incident. It was always the nipple in the damage done. But was that performance doing anything for you? Until that moment kind of hard to say in retrospect, I wasn't watching it live. It was my birthday that year is often is on the Super Bowl. And so after the game, I called my dad to congratulate him because you know, my folks are patriots fans, and I pretended that I'd watch the game, and I hadn't and the first thing my dad said on the phone talking to son on his birthday after his team. Just when the Super Bowl is. Did you see the halftime show? And I said, yeah, I thought it was pretty good. He's like, yeah. You know, what did you think was that on purpose? Or was it accident this? I'm really out of my depth here. Like when I went back and watched it you can see why it was a moment that shocked the world so wasn't on purpose or wasn't accident. What do we think? Here. I think it wasn't accident. What do you think? Honestly when you watch. It looks very on purpose. I kind of always thought it was on per everybody involved seems to agree. It was an accident. But you watch it. And there was no way for anybody at home. Not to know that was on purpose. It looked very on purpose as it played on TV. I think look. Way because he was meant to pull it back and reveal a bra, right? That's the story. Yes. Which that's why it seems to be in purpose. I believe them. Do you think if that happened now, it would be just as big a deal or actually people just kind of like throw it off assuming it hadn't happened for everything? He would suffer more than her. Now. I do think people will be more conscious of unfairly blaming her. That's for sure I think he would get more grief now than what's jump momentarily since we're talking about controversy to let's going on with maroon five right now. But some people who are listening to this by the time, it's a podcast this happened. Maroon five will play the Super Bowl. It's not a very antiquated performance. They're taking a lot of flack for playing the Super Bowl at all. And I think going forward this may be a YouTube problem. It is going to be a problem for the NFL because the brand is so tarnished and there's a an ongoing protest over the brand. And so it's going to be hard for them to get music starts to play it. You know? Beyonce's certainly not gonna be playing anytime soon and moon five don't seem to know. What hit them those interview? He looks like a truck hit him. He he didn't seem to know. How controversial this will be because their whole brand is to not be offensive to p powder bowl to very mainstream audience and other cornered when this huge controversy that they didn't expect. And so their press conference got cancelled has been very carefully managed, then even nounce them as headliners like last week or something, right? I mean, it's been known for months, but it was made official. So it's been a very weird thing. And they can't get many of their guest stars on their biggest songs to come sing with them. I wonder if next year they go sort of right wing country or something because that's the only direction thinking going was there ever a controversy like this before halftime show afterwards? Just in Janet m I a in the and flipping the bird. But I can't remember at one before hand idea that playing the Super Bowl would be an inherently like offensive. It's like hosting the Oscars. It's something that seemed like a high proced- gift until this year. It's unfathomable that it's difficult to find people will. To do it. Maybe maroon five will host the Oscars. Available for next year. Superbowl slash will host the Oscars with ET until the NFL resolves this image that they're racially insensitive. It's going to be big problem going forward. Yeah. Think that they'll have to go slumming book. Bon Jovi, finally or something. And there haven't been that many country acts who played it this, right? No. Few very strange. Either. It's very for going full country after this year possibly. Yeah. It is very strange. I look Brian how you're close personal fit. Roger waters has weighed in on this controversy. A man whose opinions about anything NFL related are instantly headline baking I like how he is stepped in urged maroon five to stage a protest on live TV. It makes you wish that Roger waters really should be playing this cake does rider they should be protesting, Israel or buckeyes matter probably everything, but he thinks that five should take a need during the performance. I have to say, it's not a bad idea. I think it's an entertainment tonight interview with Adam LeVine, I've spent some time with him, and he's the most fun upbeat sort of no worries person and looks drawn haggard and terrified. He may be word. This is the worst decisions ever made in his life. It would save their image. If they did something protest. But for all we know by the time people were hearing on the podcast people be like, well, you know, something insane may have happened. We can't help. But we don't know what's going to go back to Andy's point. I mean, they really do want to be the least offensive. Pop group of all time. So to take in the for them that would be a major step on his part. But you know, what it actually might not be received. Well, because we will be like we don't want you to take a knee. We want you to not play we want. No one to. It's a lose lose who would think the plane to Super Bowl would be a lose lose. You know, it's really strange until Sierra. There's never really been a controversy before Justin actually just in last year. Rumors about the prints tribute wasn't the right prince tributary shouldn't right. He should meet tributing him at all given that Princeton like him. It was arguing over the word hologram hugely meaningless word that they denied in that. There would be a prince hologram because it was just a video. It's like nobody cares about the difference. If you're showing giant prints on a screen singing, I would die for you. We're possible print song arguably to do at this moment. That's a hologram. Yeah. There was sort of a like, a Trump press office level of denial this angry denial like it is so offensive that you think we would have a printout, and then there's a flat image of prints on a curtain. So yeah, Janet Jackson it issue press release before the Super Bowl saying that she was absolutely not showing up before. Where we get to some of the truly great ones in this category. Includes let's talk about the classic rock era that sort of followed the Janet and Justin debacle because as we were saying, they panicked and went back to sort of the safest thing that could think of and there was some great performances that came out of that era. Yeah, they did the biggest ones possible. I they diploma carton today. Huge medley of all hits. And as rob point is really fun and unexpected that he started with drive my car. I wonder what his thinking was on that it seemed really spontaneous. And it seemed almost like you can imagine him just like calling out the songs to the band as they go on because the selection is really random, you know, he's not doing what you would expect. Nobody would've guessed drive. My cars. The beginning song really perfect really kicked it off in perfect spirits. He just kind of came out and did his poem. Carney thing. Did you make of that? Yeah. I mean, I don't love these bed lease that they do sometimes when they thirty seconds of song. I find that Abe irritating. I prefer the stones thing. We're just like three songs. And that's it but policy good. Let's hear a little bit of that. See? And that went on for a while after Paul they did the obvious next step and got the wrong stones. And that performance is incredible. It was very good though. They do paid rough Justice which is not their best song reps. I actually love that song. Okay. But in their top three songs clan. Say it's my favorite wrong. Okay. Yeah. It was good. That it wasn't. You got me rocket one. They usually bust out on these occasion. Yeah. So it was a good deed. And and that's like a name driver here. But the night that that was on. I was actually in a studio with sonic youth. They were recording their recording rather lipped, and I was doing some book research, and there was a TV in the lounge and everybody took a break to watch that. And there was a bemused thing. But they kept calling Thurston was like, oh, they're doing some called rock Justice. And she thought that was a better title. Misheard it Justice. Sonic youth? That should be like a David Bochco TV show. Copra ron. Yes. Rock Justice or could be like sort of a musical TV show. Starring the Justice league. Really? I'm really excited about this possibilities here. Let's hear a little bit of the stones. If we can as you said in a minute. But the energy of like Mick is in better shape than some of the players. There you go. What's funny in the post Janet era that they got some shit for the Lear connect- sign you'll make a dead, man. Come that. I remember that as a small controversy at the time. Yeah. What was the use of the offended word, the concept, which is just you know, it's not like, you know, it's never not weird to hear that song on the radio. Start me up is one of the stone songs you hear constantly end. It's never not weird to hear that in like DJ's. Just don't know. It's there and they don't fade it out early. It's like sexual healing or something where there's something at the very end of the song at the very end of the fate out. I mean, there's a long list of lyrics that you don't want to spend too much time really thinking hard about. But that is definitely high up as me when Jefferson starship miracles, either taste of the real world when I- blah that long on the radio. All right, mardi Belan. What are the high points career is they got that song? And that top ten saw with you have no idea what you're talking about. What's the lyric just say I had to taste the real world. When I went down, you know kid when it went down on you girl was also grace slick is behind him going just a little. The job of just off of it. It's like combo to that starship went to strange, very strange like seventies, divorced mom, spider plant era of Jefferson, starship, really fascinated if you write the airplane and starship out of that sort and just consider Jefferson starship completely bizarre that this band existed having routinely top ten hits with stuff like that in it. And that's all it's like, eight minutes long Dade more hits than the airplane did far. Yeah. Yeah. I've said this before, but I wish all bands had never broken up. But just kept transforming themselves in that way. You know, and then in the eighties. They even bigger that was our biggest decade by far. So interrupting the classic rock in two thousand seven was prince. And I think that's my favorite Super Bowl performance of all time. It was just unbelievable. Yeah. I love the story told by the producers when they go to the dressing room, and they go prince bad news. It's pouring rain out there. Then he goes. You think it's possible to make it rain harder? That he loved it. And he just crushed it in in the pissing rain. He just destroyed the class. It's weird to explain to people that there were times and prince's life when he was underrated the times when people forgot briefly that he was one of the greatest performers who ever lived. It was it was like Bowie in that. He never stopped. There's so many albums there. Some tours that there are many periods in which he was just taken for granted just completely and then now it happened and then in the whole world would, but holy shit prints. Also talk about what unpredictable experience when he starts doing the foo fighters. Wow. Prince's not taking input from anybody on what he's going to do really shocking performance. No matter how many times do you watch. It was that close to the time. When he did creep at Coachella was that around the same time. I think he was a couple years before me. But it was right around that I've seen Dave Grohl talk about it. They was watching it then he was holy shit. He's doing my song with the fuck is happening. Then the foo fighters did they do darling. Nikki as a response to that. I think so maybe anyway, let's hear little bit of prince. Check. And what's amazing is he did all on the watchtower in a different Hendricks style. It's perfectly plausible other way. That Jimi Hendrix might have done all on the watch tower, which is so next level amazing. It's basically access boulders love version. So deep to get to that point. Headaches would have heard them like oh, man. To maybe that's better. That's crazy. I mean that so we had that. And then the next year on petty. I spoke with petty a few weeks before this and he heavily implied that the eagles got asked first. And then the pulled out at the last minute with sort of forced them like to scramble petty but used it as an excuse to launch a huge tour, which would often happen that you're too or dates are announced the following morning. And it sells out basically and that way the suit booking lucked out in the post, Justin Janet, Erin that you suddenly had this whole bunch of classic rockers who really had to promote what they were doing in this new century in record stores Tower Records was closing and you had James Taylor and QVC plug in his new album, and like I talked to him this guys right after the Bruce thing. Yeah. You said like he was on his way home a few days after the petty Super Bowl Mussa's manager calls them. Hey, we're interested. Yeah. He was stunned. Bruce added new album coming out even the ended and the press. Day two or the previous year and you wanted to go back on tour the following year in to do that and play big venues they needed the juice of Super Bowl for Bruce. What I do love about it. And what was so cool, Tom petty? Is he brought the same kind of take it or leave it laconic energy to the Super Bowl. Brought to everything he was not going to be sliding across the stage. Something I love about Tom Petty's Super Bowl performance. We've talked about all these classic rockers that they brought out. But he was not an old English guy. He was someone who actually was clearly an American who knew what SuperBowl was you what his job was which we could name aging English classic rockers. We'll get but I could see Springsteen being inspire that actually having you know, people who grew up knowing what the football was and what the NFL wasn't and with the Super Bowl was so Tom petty. He exactly new absolutely knew what to do. And he did not waste a minute of it. I think this is one of the greats. Shave. Every time petty song is so much more emotional now. Sad. It's rough almost which we hadn't played. I'm all messed up now. So all right, two thousand nine we're Springsteen eastern band, and one thing that's interesting is Bruce himself wrote this very very vivid mini memoir about the experience of rehearsing and performing for the Super Bowl. And it actually is one of the pieces of writing that sparked his book, it's where he found the voice, and it's worth reading, and what isn't necessarily clear just from watching it because I it's very entertaining. It's not quite the best bits in the top ten of Super Bowl performances as rod put it. But what you don't quite get from watching is how much it meant to Bruce in the band because you kind of think of these guys like, oh, you know, they've had their careers at that point. They don't really need affirmation. But for him it really felt like a capper because one of the things he liked AD of like, everyone watching black and white young and old and trying to reach out to everyone a love the image a saying in this memoirs, like he flew back home that night, of course, because Princeton, you know, you don't bother staying you just fly back and then late in. Night. He was on his farm, and he said a bonfire is looking at the stars. And just kind of like feeling like, I guess, maybe it's like there's times even when you spring you need to feel your success sort of. And maybe he really felt and for all these people. It's the biggest audience that'll effort play to by a long shot the entire country is watching you which is the only time that could possibly happen in this day and age that the Super Bowl is the last piece on most of the monoculture for sure rabbi figuring assays mazing performance loved reading David's history of of this Springsteen performance, David tell us what you learned in your piece that you just did about this. He had a new record coming out on working on dream. And it was a different climate out there in the world. And so they were much more open to the of doing it. And some of that stuff each some lyrics to insert the mentioning the Super Bowl in a couple of song is. Yeah. Yeah. And apparently there was like some of his ideas. And some of the producers doing hersal suggested the referee part the referee running out of the end and the overtime moves and gestures. I'm not. A football guy either. But but that was suggested by the NFL people boost loved the idea it was a real collaborative effort on his pardon. And you can kind of spiel that in that performance. It was one of the times that there's a lot of tone struck in a Springsteen show, and sometimes it's like ferocious intensity, but there's also this really goofy side and that performance did allow for some of that kind of clown. Right. If you eat a clearance Clemens book, which is a pretty lousy book, but he's a chapter about it. And he says that they were the terminal five and rehearse for days on end and his stop watch. And they're getting it to very second. It was playing born to run over and over and over again, it was driving the band. Crazy. Bruce wanted it to be so precise. And is so perfect. And it was the first steps that Clarence took after a surgery. It was on that stage. He was in a wheelchair until that night. They struck this sort of iconic born to run pose. I think watching it now against as very different impact. Yeah. And it's it's great that they did that while Clarence was still with us. Actually, that's really. Cool. And then everyone made a big deal about Bruce sliding into the camera. You know was the crotch slide. That was the moment which is a big deal the following morning. It was also a moment for me when I started to feel in the culture a push back against older artists in a way that has now reached full fruition. There was a little bit of like people are starting to get mad at so many classic rock artists and holding that against the Bruce Springsteen thing in calling him a dad and stuff. Maybe I was naive. But it was the first time I was like not everyone is down with this. Which is you know, it is what it is. It's the passage of time. It's inevitable. If song glory days on your screen and your fourteen year like where the hell is like Kanye west. I am watching glory days. Now, this is like some dad video from the eighties to see on TV right now. And we didn't hear any Bruce. Let's hear some Bruce before we move on if account. There's something wrong with me because he's he's perfectly. Well, and I'm getting most at that too. Yeah. What's going on? I was just so profoundly moved that. I don't know what it is. I guess I just want Bruce tour, please. Like, maybe that's all that's become the memorial to Clarence. Yeah. But in the classic rock era, which Larry the classic rock era of a Super Bowl was two thousand and five through two thousand and ten classic. Rock's absolute. So bizarre here is the actual end of the classic rock era, which was in two thousand and ten with the who and something went wrong here. What happened? It was very unfortunate timing in that Roger gel trees voice was going through major problems that require surgery soon. But he didn't quite realize it yet. So they're big plant. It was to play this in a launch a big to or from it. But his voice was so screwed up that it was cancelled. So at the biggest stage of their whole career was his worst voice ever. It's horrific timing, and we were talking earlier, and rob mentoring, Tom petty and how much an American rockstar would know the importance of the Super Bowl. I'm not sure the who realize this because I did a story about the making of this. And the first thing I did was talk to some NFL people who are all excited. We got who we can't worry about Bob off. And they said, oh, we sent DVD's to Pete. And Roger of all the previous halftime show. So they could get in the mood and know what we're doing. I said, okay. So then I enjoyed Pete and Roger afterwards separately. And I said, so I heard you got. Some DVD's and you watch them, and they both laughed. Okay. So it was nine years after their last sort of triumphant TV performance, which was that the nine eleven show. Right. And they probably thought we got this. They probably barely rehearse for that one day. They were hurt that day that afternoon. The who is for that. This is crazy Springsteen ten days of hersal, and they tried to play five songs, which is too many. So they just play bits of them. And it was just a freaking trainwreck. They aren't a band that. You do a medley. I remember your interview with Pete and Roger Daltrey, and they said they'd never watched an American football game. And sport was and somebody would have told them exactly filled them in a little yes. Springsteen petty went into this knowing you're with very different ideas of what their job was knew what they wanted to do. And who like you said, they thought it was just like a live TV medley the idea that they only rehearse that afternoon is just stunning to me, and we've talked way too. Much actually on this show about why young people hate to it hurts my feelings. But I just realized that this is why I can't help. I mean, just imagine being like twelve years old and watching this year like what the hell is happening here. And he's kind of weasing the song. It's what people's kind of cartoon is of aging rockers attempting to do their old songs. Yeah. He starts off and does pinball wizard quite well. I was saying it shows how off they were that Pete actually flubs a bit of the pinball wizard intro. It's like how do you be Townsend and not play that? Exactly. Right. So they were half assing the biggest of their time career, which I guess is. You know, it's pretty punk rock. I guess at least Roger kept his shirt button. Wait. But on the what is it the twelve twelve twelve concert? I think he took all his naked. I remember nothing. Cuts from Quadrophenia that was that was another not really knowing what the moment was they played bellboy twelve. Well, yes, seriously. They played Delaware. It's it's the one song. And they're all that's saying by Keith moon. Yeah. Had Keith moon on a video screen. They absolutely had no idea where they were what they were part of not taking live American TV at all seriously in in the years when it could have done them a huge favor. This is the same judgment that led. Roger at a recent farce hills show to tell a long story. The punchline of was the he abandoned his first family for rock and roll. And aren't we all glad of that? It was horrifying. This is a true story. But in the end, I think it was for the best. Anyway, here's substitute. So anyway, we talk about some of the greatest ones in recent years down the beyond safe, especially lady Gaga debate performance is just stunning visually in. It's the same kind of work ethic and brilliant set she brought to something like Kotel performance. Like, she is not messing around. She most assuredly did not show up that afternoon for an hour. What do you make of the beyond type of woman's fantastic? Just in terms of beyond say, also like it's weird to think that there was a moment where beyond say was underrated. But this was right before she became beyond says, we know her now she had yet to release her big surprise self titled album, which she was probably making while she did this, which is so shocking. So it's funny that like pre twenty thirteen beyond say is still she's on the way up. So this was a performance that was just astounding. Yeah. And then when cold play played a few years later, it just suddenly became a second beyond say performance took over the whole thing, which was actually. The colts were there for that. You go back and watch it, and it's wait. There's about thirty seconds of beyond say here and like in half of that is her being forced to do it. With Bruno Mars like co play we're supposed to be the headlong. It was sort of the blues brothers. Just a little bit. And then down was a very triumphant performance, and that the best exit from any of those performances when she jumps off the stage that the best finale halftime, very comparable to Tom petty, musically, very different but somebody coming in as a football fan, and knowing what she wanted to try for anything risky or controversial. She was just straight down the middle doing brilliantly, essentially was preparing our whole life for that. Totally. And it was also her reclaiming crowd-pleasing down the middle Gaga. It wasn't her the meat. Dress was gone the whole period when she was doing knitting stuff was gone. She was like in a way when you look at the Arkansas career it now of works in her favor. Maybe that she had a period of because everyone has to have that period of when it seems like you're alienating everyone, you're doing something different. Because then it allows the of like Super Bowl stars born and Vegas and whatever's next. So you're saying that art pop is like her ditch period. Like when you're young. When young fades away. You gotta have that. If you don't have that. It's like a stock. You gotta take a little dip before he can then arc up. Again. Also, it was her first high profile public success in a minute. It's weird to think. Now like, you know, when she's going to be kademi awards soon. But people were surprised that she knocked us out of the park. That was the beginning of please America. Love me again. Yeah. I'm not that weird anymore. I'm gonna do Tony Bennett to is that really was step one genuinely moving clench of allegiance. Yeah. Right. Good point. When you can actually bring full-on Gaga show biz to the pledge of allegiance. That's you know, there's this line. Speaking of Bruce that done Hammond had about BRUCE'S first addition for John Hammond Comey. It's like he took his God given talent and blasted in the face with it. And that's like if you have just that something like the Super Bowl, if your prints are beyond say Gaga, it's an opportunity to just be like check this out and the huge build up to Gog. I it was politics that there's a lot of thought that she would do something that was protests. So she flipped it and pledge, which was pretty brilliant. So I'm sure that this year's maroon five is it going to be a surprise guest is literally gonna be maroon five I think they're saying Travis Scott, boys, come out, right? Travis Scott and big boy, they wanna Cardi B. They're big song. She wouldn't do it. I can't wait to see their Twitter mentions on Monday. So we'll see how that goes. You'll have to let us know how that goes. Or I guess us in the future. We'll also know. So don't let us now. Anyway, this nonsensical things back to the future. Talking about this bid. Today's Rolling Stone music now. Thanks to David Brown. Rob Sheffield and Andy green, David. You have a book coming out. 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Congressman Michael McCaul on the Campaign, Coronavirus and China

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Congressman Michael McCaul on the Campaign, Coronavirus and China

"Can. Major Garrett. Yes, CBS, yes I. Major Garrett from the nation's capital major fantastic, it's the takeout major with CBS News chief Washington, correspondent better. That's nonsense. Major Garrett. You should know better. Welcome to the very best part of my broadcast week I major Garrett and creator of this most amazing program known as the takeout where everyone listening and watching knows it is two things principally. What are those two things relentlessly curious, steadfastly, non ideological. You find this podcast. The show lots of different ways of course epsn. Hello, so working from home on Sirius Xm Channel One, twenty, four great to have you with. With us. Thanks for listing a great radio stations around our country now more than seventy, and of course you early adopters on the podcast platform. Thanks for finding US early and giving us all the few. We've had and needed to succeed our guest this week. Republican congressman, Mike. McCall Tenth District of Texas is the ranking Republican on the House Foreign Affairs Committee Mike. It's good to talk to you. How are you? Major, thanks for having me. It's great. Michael Congressman. which do you prefer? yeah, it's Michael. Okay Greg very good and congressman will do there. So I know you have a lot of things you want to say about China and we're going to get to those things I promise, but it is a political year. Politics is everywhere and according to the President I'd states a great deal is at stake the future of the economy the. The future of the direction of the pandemic, the future of national security of Joe. Biden is elected, so let's get to some political things right off the top first of all. I'm sure you've read about it. There's a new campaign manager for the trump campaign. Brad par scale demoted. He's from San Antonio. You. I suspect know him at least somewhat well, you reaction. I think. Presents a little bit frustrated. He likes to get out with people. Really gets energized by these rallies and I think he's very frustrated with the covid nineteen. Pandemic inability to connect with people directly I. Don't know when that's really going to change I. Think you wanted to take the campaign different direction? My guess is that. Jared Kushner may have had something to do with this Obviously jared be certain of that congressman. You can be absolutely certain of that. That's. You know jared really is is the the brains behind the machine in the campaign and the White House as you know I think. It was his ability to reach out spy social media. That probably is the reason why you get elected in the first place, so he is the mastermind the seeing. So do you think per scale suffered after Tulsa? Yeah, I think so I. I know looking again. Vodka jeered power players behind the scenes and I know that They were both very upset with the way. They talked up that rally in a very disappointed turn out. In it obviously didn't go as well as they had hoped and I think they wanna take it in a different direction now. From your vantage point is this campaign? Is Reelection campaign running on all cylinders? Now not at all. I think you know no one's election campaign is running on. All cylinders were both were all very yelm sort. Disabled by covid nineteen. It's hard to. Get out with the people. It's hard to raise money as you have to do to get reelected. And what I've found that at least for myself using technology rejects the people it can be very effective if you do right, and and so I can say in one place like here in Austin and meet. Thousands of people. Buy Technology and deliver my message by technology, and so and you know. I did telephone town hall last night about one hundred thousand people. You know the thing is major. Everybody's at home right now. So when you call when you call the answer, actually, they're a captive audience. No doubt that they are they are. They're not really going anywhere, right? You've got an opponent now, Mike Segal. You'RE GONNA win. Yeah I think so he's. Very definable God love him. He is very passionate about. Being a a Bernie Sanders, acolyte Elizabeth Warren a true. Disciple. I don't think in Texas tennis GONNA fly very well, so we'll be able to define him in his views and. but you know I like to run positive campaigns now not about my own about me. My record of effectiveness in the Congress might bipartisanship. Politico naming the most bipartisan member of Congress from Texas and the third most effective in the house, and that that's what my constituents want to hear, and that's what they want out of congressman. Texas a battleground state this time. I know there's a lot of talk about I think you gotta go back and look at the last election cycle. Yet a top of the ticket with Bento energizing. His base, straight party ticket voting. You know cruises up there. You know not. Exactly, maybe most likable guy out there, and didn't really exactly out, and while the solvents say it was not helpful. So. What I had was millennials coming out for bets. ticket put in perspective might seek led six percent. Neymar, be any got forty eight percent on election day. There's something strange about that, so you don't see that replicating in two thousand twenty. You don't see Texas as a true battleground state even though Biden and his campaign. It's not as if they have money. That's just lying around there dropping money in Texas. They must see something. I do think you gotta keep an eye on Texas so then we take it seriously and I have. Got Eighty high-school college volunteer's great kids out there. been working very hard. I. Think you know look at the poll numbers? I, do think trump wins Texas questions by how much and what that down ballot effects can be I think. Senator Cornyn is going to be more stabilizing at the top of the ticket. And I think he'll be helpful for me down ballot. For you is the president, a net, positive, neutral or net negative. I think. He does a couple of things. I'm like last election. Our base will show up. They won't. They won't sit it out like the last time, so he will energize Mike Party to show up at the polls the major. Let's be honest. He's GonNa. Energize the other side to. See you're GonNa have that effect where I think you're gonNA have a pretty good sized turnout on both sides of the aisle for me. You know not a when when he might district which? The polls I have seen he is What I like is with these kids I have. Knocking door to door making phone calls. favorables are much higher than the president's an Cornyn for that matter and so I I feel. I feel pretty good about this one. The Republican convention shifted from Charlotte to to Jacksonville. Florida appears to be shrinking before our very eyes. You'RE GONNA GO! It. Yeah. I was there last time. I plan to show this time I talked to You know the campaign finance manager for the event for the Convention yesterday. He thinks it's going to go forward but I. DO think you have to be smart about it i. do think you know mass me going to be important because I think. Even, going into August, this virus is still not be. It's not GONNA BE GONE! And, I think we need a falling CDC guidelines. The masks I would. Hate for that to blow back in any way, or there's a perception that Republicans don't WanNa follow the rules on this and I think we're in a mask. You've got one right here and every time I got in public. It's very important that people wear masks. I talked to one. Republican today you said you know some of the Republican National. Committee men and women are a little bit nervous. He said I understand why they're nervous. It could be walking into a Kovic, Petri dish. Is that a little bit hyperbolic, or do you think there's something to that? I think any time you have a public gathering of people from all over the nation. You're. GonNa increases a risk factor, so I am concerned about it. you know I think we should rely on on the doctors on this one. Is it truly safe. I know the president though. Once to go full steam ahead and you know. Maybe a lot of people will be participating virtually but I do think you'll have people old speakers at the convention live. I just think it's important. We follow the CDC guidelines. They're good. That's the voice of Mike McCall Republican Congressman Tenth District of Texas Stay tuned for segment, two of the take coming up in just a minute. Retrospect and twenty twenty hindsight. we all know. Plotting in the curve. People were just simply were mass. It's not a very difficult thing to do. From CBS News, this is the takeout, with Major Garrett, welcome back. Those of you on CBS and welcome back to my dining room, slash. Perpetual office during the pandemic, as I say each and every week for those of you who are on the frontlines working whatever capacity healthcare grocery stores first responders be well, be safe. No, we deeply appreciate the work that you're doing for those of us. Who can work from home? We're going to continue to do that and as the Congressman Mike, McCall our special guests in the last segment. We're going to wear masks and our face coverings, because it helps not just marginally. It helps quite a bit I anything else. You want to amplify about that congressman. Think. The you know there's a lot of debate early on about mass, but clearly. You know the m ninety five's the best, but it protects the others from youth. You have it. In Ninety five ninety five percent protects you and so I think it's you in my state. It's it's mandatory and I think that was right decision. To protect a the help, welfare and safety. Texans and You know. For. Those who defy that I think it's defined science itself. You mentioned in Texas on this program several weeks ago. We talked to Mayor Steve Adler, and at that time. This was maybe two and a half months ago. He was advocating for local requirement to wear masks and the governor. Greg Abbott overridden overrode him as he did other local leaders. In retrospect without a mistake. Well I think the the governor is dealing with the data. That's coming in I. Think he made decision. To open up business. He's got a lot of pressure on his from his base to do that, but he's. He's getting it from both sides of the aisle right now. I do think we're in. The mask was right thing to do Mirror Adler. Friend of mine and on that one of marriage. Correct, I think. You know in retrospect and twenty twenty hindsight. But we all know it could have flattened the curve if people would just simply wear masks. It's not a very difficult thing to do. No, it's not as Tom Hanks, said Kobe survivor himself. These are his words, not mine. It is literally the least you can do. Yeah, I mean it's very simple, and that's where we live in the now I I, it's skills like. Twilight zone episode won't. End You know. Last time we saw nineteen eighteen, the Spanish, flu and there which was devastating twenty five million people, and we had no science back then nothing I'm very actually major very encouraged by I taught yet CA commissioner a couple of days ago. A lot of these treatments that are. About ready to come out and the vaccine itself we had good news from dern out yesterday going into phase three of the vaccine. Whether it's GonNa. Be like a flu, seasonal vaccine or vaccine that maybe you have to take a year, I think when these treatments come out and the vaccine. That's the game changer and that's when the economy starts. Tick up and going back to political analysis. I think where the economy is in September. October is going to really determine twenty quickly It will weigh heavily in our elections. So to that end. Do you believe it is imperative for Congress before its scheduled August break to pass yet another economic relief package and or stimulus anew and that that's very strong on both sides. I'll tell you. With all the acrimony You'll probably well. We have to replenish the paycheck protection program first and foremost it's been been a very popular program to keep small business afloat. Keep people on the payroll as we get through the crisis. So that's something that will be a very easy decision on both sides, the other issues that our. Debate, but it need job. Benefits. JOBLESS SPENT WELL I. I know these ministry. Six dollars US up. Well. You don't want to pay people so much that they have no sentencing to work right on the other people are hurting so I. Think you'll see another direct payment check that will be bipartisan and I. Think you'll see a negotiation on the six hundred dollar. And I know. MNUCHIN is negotiating. A compromise maybe to bring that number down. Interestingly two thousand eight That that said that unemployment was. Far less than six hundred dollars. It was like twenty twenty five dollars a week. Now I think we can find a number that we can compromise on I think the bottom line is unlike the last package. Plus he put on the floor that was. Had No input from Republicans. No one could from her own members of Congress. It has to be bipartisan because at the end of the day. She knows she has to get passed by the Senate and signed into law by President. So promised to conversation about China and now begins so there are so many issues to deal with first of all. You and those members of the Republican side of the Aisle on the Foreign Affairs Committee. Put together a report about the origins of Krona, virus covid nineteen. What China knew what it didn't know or what had held withheld from the public. Health from the World Health Organization that force the World Health Organization to actually revamp its own timeline about what it learned how it learned, and from whom and win in a nutshell. What did you learn? And what are the ramifications of what you learn? Well after SARS. In two thousand, four of the pandemic the International Health Rules Change to require a twenty four hour education to the World Health Organization the Chinese Communist Party utterly failed to do that. In fact, the way the WHO found out was through Internet reporting. Not from the Chinese Communist Party and let me just like a up now. This things breaking in November. Two wiki incubation. The first cases were popping up in December. They're about eight doctors who are now reporting a SARS like virus. That's highly contagious. That looks like pneumonia type virus in its lethal How does the Chinese counter-party responding? They go in. They arrest. The doctors. Detain them. Get retractions because they monitor their communications on. We chat. Want police show up in rust. Get retractions the next thing they do is they go into the laboratories destroy lab samples to try to cover this up and control of the investigation and Major. The worst thing they did was the human to human transmission, and that is it it's it's highly infectious. Taiwan warns the W.. H. O. Remember Director. General Tate Up Taos was a Chinese. Communist Party's candidate in charge of the W. H. O.. Taiwan out as observer in the W., H., o. his own expert in Wuhan major warned him that it was human human and yet rose. Decides to overrule his own expert and not issue. It's called an. Public. Health Emergency, this that led to the Spring New Year's festival in Wuhan China, read five million people moving out a Wu on throughout the country of China and then internationally, this is a point where even the most liberal university studies say, we could have contained about ninety five percent. Of the because they were not transparent, because they covered it out an lied about it it went from epidemic to global pandemic. I think China should be held accountable I. think There should be consequences and I think what they did to the world. We should not forget it. Define Accountability defined consequences. Whether a whole lot of ideas about how to hold China accountable I personally majors. I studied this. It's going to be the the market's going to hold them accountable. You'RE GONNA see we look at supply chain. We look at medical supplies. Nobody realize how vulnerable end reliance we are on the Chinese government, four P. E., for instance or generic or antibiotics they also no one realize technology I've a bill. It's going to be on. On the national defense authorization to as bipartisan I, think this whole issue can be bipartisan to help with semiconductor advanced bringing that manufacturing out of China and neighboring countries back to the United States and incentivize them through grant match programs, but also tax in incentives to get them to come back and create these advanced microchips that are involved in artificial intelligence quantum, computing five G. with alway. We're in a great competition now with China global scale. And we gotTA DO SMART and when it comes to national security, relate gotta bring these items back to the United States. That's voice. My Call Congressman Tenth District of Texas. He is also the ranking Republican on the foreign. Affairs Committee segment three of the takeout in just a second? From, CBS News, this is the takeout with major. Garrett welcome back. Mike McCall Congressman Tenth District of Texas. Our special guest ranking Republican Foreign Affairs Committee continue the conversation about China Corona, virus and other issues, so I heard you correctly, congressman reputational and economically. That's how China's going to be held accountable. United States won't do anything other than that. Is that correct? now I think there are a lot of ways we can hold them accountable. That's something our test. Share this China task for me looking at how can we hold the Chinese Communist Party accountable, but I do think going back to my previous. Comments that I. Think you're seeing supply chains, Japan's moving everything out of China. and you're seeing a lot of countries realizing that they were not operating in good faith. And that don't want to be so reliant and vulnerable to China wanted elected, mentioning major that I think is really kinda fascinating that we did with this report. We translated the State Department translated into Mandarin Cantonese in. Muslim. As, you know they persecute the weaker Muslims. And we were able to technology. Office penetrates the firewall into mainland China to get this report on social media platforms in mainland China. This report is going viral. Andrew Voice of America is well. It's going viral in the country. So much so that when President Gee spokesman had his last press conference the first question they asked was about. WHO's this congressman? Mike McCall, what is this China Task Force? And what are your comments on this report? To me at indicates obviously getting under their skin, because we are telling the truth about what happened I. Think the greatest fear the Chinese Communist. Party has not me or the United States it is their own people and their own people learning the truth about their government, and that's very powerful. So. What about limiting the movement of Chinese Communist? Party officials traveling to the United States what about limiting I've heard others who specialize in this region of the world, limiting university students coming to the United States, other kinds of cultural and economic interactions, all within the purview of this administration are those consequential actions that should be taken. Well, it's it's. It's a very interesting point, I think the travel ban go out of criticism including from Taylor US The W., H. O., but that travel ban from China I. Think Save thousands of lives in the United States. There is a concerted effort by the Chinese Communist Party to infiltrate our universities to steal our research. We've seen the live indictments recently, one including Harvard professor at for espionage. MD Anderson in my state, trying to steal like immunotherapy. That was was caught and so that's real thousand talents program is espionage program however. This is where I may break a little bit with the administration I've always been a big out. Of, luck if we're going to bring in H. One B. says that that'd be. high-skill stem. People well, WE WANNA. Do we don't want a brain drain out of this country? We want to bring the best and the brightest I. DON'T WANNA random lottery system to bring people randomly into the country. I want to bring the talent in from China and keep them here. You know ut. Austin down the road at were. I'm sneaking. Yeah, we have a lot of really bright. That note of all about quantum physics. A lot about artificial intelligence. They're doing a lot of good research and development and I think we need to win them over in. You know I'd rather than stay here and work for the United. States rather than be denied and go back to our competitor and work against us, but we have to make sure when they come in. They're not. Directly affiliated with the. The People's Republic of China and appeal their army. There's also been quite a bit of commentary recently from the State Department about the south. China Sea and China's assertion that it has control of navigable waters there the United States is now made it fundamentally clear it disagrees with that. China China's assertions violate international law and maritime law. Is this a potential flashpoint. Yeah I don't think anyone wants. Drink conflict in terms of military posture. I spoke the head of the Pacific Command. The other day in a better fleet in the Pacific. But what China just like with Hong Kong. They violated the. Sino UK Treaty and essentially took over Hong Kong, and they're gonNA influence their elections in September. We can't see that aggression happened in Taiwan. Nor the South China Sea and when you look at what they've done. With no legal basis, they've just literally gone wholesale and taken over the South China Sea in all the islands there actually man factory man-made islands, which is kind of interesting, a direct threat to the Philippines Malaysia Vietnam Taiwan so I think you know the question is. How do you respond to that well? State Department says that their claim is not based in law or fact. There's no basic near the the law, a law of the sea treaty that was signed between the Philippines and China The tribunal sided with the Philippines on this. I wouldn't be surprised though major and he don't start seeing a little bit of. Muscle on our part with Taiwan. Perhaps doing things like joint military exercises I think we gotta take a strong stand at China. They know that if they do the same thing, they didn't. Hong Kong with Taiwan. We're not. GonNa sit. No. I'm league back on that one congressman. You almost speak of Hong Kong in the past tense Do you think Hong Kong is effectively lost well I, don't because I you know I truly believe in democracy and freedom. And what the Chinese. Communist. Party is done, and there is a taking away the rights of the people taking away the right to free speech taken away the right to protest like we have in this country. And I always say democracies at the end of that are going to win, but we're in a great global conflict, geopolitically between totalitarian regimes like Russia China a communist dictatorship it wrong with the ayatollah. North Korea you know a total where the people have no rights or freedom. It's all State Control I, think that is the challenge of this generation, and certainly the Chinese Communist Party is right. Swear in the middle of this I. Still Hope that the people will be able to overcome this in Hong, Kong. But I don't think you're gonNA. See of sending military into this operation. We just have to defeat the ideas coming out of. The Chinese government. With all due respect, Carmen you know under this new law that China has imposed on Hong Kong. The simplest most mild banal forms of dissent can lead you to prison and then be whisked away to the mainland for a judicial proceeding, which is not a judicial proceeding by any Western standard at all. How do you expect people to rise up against that? When even when they don't rise up when they do something that's just like holding a banner in front of themselves silently on the street they can be whisked away, tried in China and possibly imprisoned for a very long time. To get through the Foreign Affairs Committee in the past in Congress a Hong Kong. Human, rights, Democracy Act which led to the Hong Kong autonomy. ACT, which dates. Not Indiscretion mandates sanctions on Chinese counties parties. Officials responsible for this national security law in this this really nothing short of a takeover of Hong. Kong so yes, he some strong sanctions coming out there and hope that has an. We passed the Wieger Muslim, Bill which you know they put them in these indoctrination Kant's nothing short of concentration camp, according to our department defense, and we've issued sanctions now against that that that's the first step major that we have to do I. Don't think the first step is ever bring your military and I think you gotta work diplomacy sanctions into everything. You possibly can but I do think we need to empower the people of Hong. Kong and I'd like to see the UK another taking a bunch of Hong Kong. As immigrants, but I'd like to see the UK. Voice more concern. About this takeover in the United Nations, problem is though that China. Really commands a lot of key posts at the United Nations, and when you had the human rights. Council. By margin of two to one in the United, nations approve of what the Chinese Communist Party has been doing in Hong Kong very disturbing, and it shows the influence. The CPI has within the UN because that would be the body where you would address a violation of a treaty like that. That's voices Michael Congressman Tenth District of Texas. He's our special guests. They tuned for segment four of the tick out in just a second. From CBS News. This is the takeout with Major Garrett. Joined the takeout as you do each and every week on all sorts of platforms podcast platform, Sirius Xm Channel One, twenty four seventy radio stations around the country, and of course on CBS and Mike. We'll call us our guest. He is the ranking Republican on the House foreign. Affairs Committee Congressman Tenth District of Texas continuing our conversation about China while way, tell my audience, what is why the US is concerned about it and why it's important than Britain, reversed itself, and has taken while way out of its five G.. Excuse me five G. preparation process. Are They Great Britain the right decision there what we call one of the five is. These five countries that we have an intelligence. Very close relationship with the reason why that's so important, it white. Is there telecommunications giant out out China? State subsidized, but from a national security standpoint very important, because as they go in with their belts in Rhode Initiative to developing nations, are they do undercut us from in a price war on telecom five jeep. We've got to be more competitive with China on all things whether the artificial intelligence quantum in by G. We're having major discussions I know Larry cudlow on this issue We're GONNA have a dod spectrum now being a least to five G., so we can have more of a upper-hand over the Chinese. But why is it important? That's a great question when they plant five G. Down when they plant their wall, way systems, and they control all of the data. It's a complete surveillance program. Just like they monitor. We chat in China. Everything that goes through the wall. Way Networks everything in that five G. space. Is really sucked up into cume. That the Chinese Communist Party. They done major if that's of large. Steve. Data from healthcare companies to you know twenty three million security clearances including my own but the alway thing is the most dangerous when we try to tell developing nations that. It's not to your advantage to allow them to come in and steal all your data, but when we saw starting to come into five icon. That damage scattered concern I lot of discussions. With the their security defense urging them not to do this. I was pleased to see them change course, but we also have to compete. With China and these developing nations were planning while way down all an. African continent, but also in Latin America and with the debt, trout say form with belt and road. They also take over. Their ports like Sri Lanka Judy. They're down in Panama Canal. They have poured down there. You Know Roosevelt Carter gave back now the Chinese ports on your side. Are you prepared congressman to break the hearts of all sorts of young Americans and celebrities by saying Tiktok has to go also. I know it's yet another everything you put on Tiktok is. Goes into their data. It's China's big like that. China's the Chinese. Communist Party the state and the the state controls everything in China. And they the military and civil fusion. It's all which should we block it? Should we ban? It should be do something to discontinue participation and or use of it well in the national defense authorization. You're seeing A. Bipartisan amendment to certainly be it within our. First step right is the ban it within our united? States military We did that with five G.. Last time, and now we're doing TIKTOK. Look my kids have used it. I think everyone's children is very popular. And I warn my children and I warn others at. All. That is within the grasp of the Chinese Communist Party. So be careful and I think. There's a tendency with the new generation. They're very lax about it I. Don't think they really care and they almost assume that everything they do is being. You. Know is being controlled surreal, but this goes right to the Chinese Communist Party. So you mentioned the National Defense Authorization Act. There was an amendment there about. The naming currently of military installations for confederate war heroes presidents opposed to that president supposed to monuments to confederate war. Heroes quote unquote being taken down the leader of your conference in the House today Kevin. McCarthy introduced legislation that says if localities don't protect monuments, they will lose federal funding you in favor that well you know. This is a tough issue for the American people. I you know like. In the? Is a provision that we will. Have a three year. Or maybe one year study on the naming of military bases after confederate heroes. And I think that that that has merit to it and I think that's GonNa Pass in a bipartisan way? When it comes to taking down of statues on. Now Look I am why you know. Live on Capitol Hill Lincoln. Parks there and they were GonNa tear down Abraham Lincoln Statue. which to me it, Lisa confederate issue makes some sense, but tearing down Abraham. Lincoln is somehow being racist when he actually signed. The emancipation proclamation seems to be going a little overboard. And you know I just would now. Caution that we don't want total. Anarchy and chaos tearing down all statues in the thing I had the biggest issue with I'll be honest with you and I was on. This really cool as Conference like this with Roger Daltrey not childhood cancer, which is a big issue of mine. And even he said you know I. Really have a problem with the racing history. There to learn? It's not a proud chapter in our history. It's a very dark chapter in American history, but to say to a race it. As from the history books, itself would be nothing short Marxist Leninist dead or the Nazis did burning books, and I think that kind of crosses the line where a little disturbed about. A racing industry. Totally I think we have to learn from the mistakes of the past. This was obviously the greatest. Sin of our founding father. And we have to learn from that. Not Tear down. George Washington Thomas Jefferson. So, we've you're advising the president in this conversation. You have the opportunity to do so. Would you tell him to just back off on the whole confederate? Issue at least as it relates to the national defense authorization. Act Don't make a big deal out of this one year process to look at renaming military installations because you're GONNA get overridden. You'RE NOT GONNA. Succeed on that. Yeah, and I think the compromise. They were in the armed. Services Committee was right one. is a bipartisan compromise. Passed the committee. Unanimously I don't want. Feed the fires and the flames on this. There's lot of racial tension, not just all about George. Floyd I think that one case opened up. A pen door's box of racial tension that exists sitting in the country for quite some time. I wrote an OP ED with my Houston. Mayor is an African Democrats. African American Democrats and we talked about. This is not a time for violence that the first for. The rightful. Right to protest, it goes back to the founding of this nature. Nation, but it does not protect violence. And we we talked. About this speech at Robert, Kennedy gave in nineteen, sixty eight after Martin Luther King was assassinated. I think that's speech is as relevant today as it was in nineteen, sixty eight, and what he said was very interesting. What we need now is not violence, but what we need now is healing as a nation I don't WanNa flame the you know the the fires. You know racism in this country. I think what we need now is leadership at the topic and heal the nation of the Sun Daddy back to our founding fathers, and try to bring the country together and not divide it anymore I think people are tired of this divisiveness on both sides of the aisle what they wanna see her effective numbers at work. Work Across Albie good things done for the American people not pander to the base all the time, my advice to the president's. You got the base. Let's work on Middle America. Let's work on mainstream America because that's how you win elections and it's the right thing to do. That's the voice of Mike McCall Congressman Republican ten district of Texas ranking Republican House. Foreign Affairs Committee for our radio audience. We have to depart, but for those on CBS and the podcast platform stay tuned for the takeout. I'll take. From CBS News. This is the takeout with major. Garrett welcome to your takeout out. Take a special. Our Guest Congressman Mike. McCall tenth district Texas ranking Republican. House Affair Foreign Affairs. Committee for those of you who are listening to the main show. This is going to. We're going to continue the conversation for just a bit before we get to the real fun and Games Congressman as we were departing the last segment, you said we need to have leaders who he'll. That is not terminology typically associated with President Trump. Is He at the healer? The country needs from your perspective on these racial issues. I mean again. That would be my vice. It would have been my advice from this I think. He had a golden opportunity. Take the high road in and try to bring the nation together and heal the nation I think the nation needs a lot of healing right now, and it's too divisive and to polarize politically. And I don't think a lot of people like it to be honest with united. Missed opportunity that he had I think Lanka. Others would. Probably present a different messaging. And I go back to that Robert Kennedy speech and sixty eight. To me to me at the. Time! So. This is more fun and Games portion of our program I. Want to give you the three threshold questions, each and every guest for now going on more than three and a half years has been asked and they've answered. The audience loves the answers because it gives them a sense of who they've been listening to for the better part of an hour, so in no particular order, most influential book in Your Life. All time favorite movie or one of your favorite movies, and if you're going to indulge yourself, musically meaning putting those ear buds to really good use what kind of music artist or genre are you most likely to listen to? That will take it on the last one I, Canada, rock and roller grew up. My brothers were you know kind of like in the sixties growing up with? The Beatles, Bob Dole on the WHO. It was really cool beyond on a thing like this is Roger. DALTRY alleged of. Rock and roll listening to. Like Stephen Still Yeah. I wasn't sure which Roger Daltry you were talking about. I'm glad to know it was e- Roger Daltry the one alleging Roger Dalton. There's a lot of. Crosby stills Nash and young, but favorite book. Okay you just you set me up. I gotTA. Get applied for my latest book. Better, angels was Sadie Keller. It's all about challenged cancer experienced. Through the eyes of a thirteen year old twelve year old, and all the work. These kid lobbyists did get ager legislation passed my current reading a one hundred year marathon by Michael. Tells vary number one bestseller on how we get duped by China for decades. He was the CIA officer changed his tune. favorite movie at had to say of all time I distinct gladiator with Russell. Crowe I mean it's pretty gory scenes. Probably one of those powerful. Certain evoking images going back to the Roman Empire. Hell amand struggle witches own governance overcame it. Literally fighting. Is Emperor in the ring and turning wrong back to republic, and in the final Indian the movie, going back to his wife and children. I've got five children. Three of them are triplets. Identical twin girls and a boy in major. I'm going to be empty Nester in about a month from now. Forward to? You and I are almost exactly the same age. We were born the same year nine, hundred, sixty two I'm an empty Nester. My three kids are gone. It's a transition. You can make I tell you that there are parts of it that gives you plenty of pangs about that, which you no longer have, but there are lots of opportunities, and there's lots of time. You'll suddenly discover that you have that. You didn't have before, so it's not all bad. Before I let you go. In addition to politics and policy What do you think the direction of the country is when it comes to add something you mentioned? When we're talk about China. Artificial intelligence, what are its directions? What are its benefits? What are it's scary? Downsides well technology topic I. Know Yeah, technology is. Phenomenal I know in like the Internet. Great things about the Internet, but technology is I would say that it doesn't take sides I mean technologies Asta when it comes to manipulation, so it can be used for very good purposes it can be used for evil purposes, and so right down the street out of the Army Futures Command, which does all the research and development for the United States military working with our tech here in Austin University. But Hey I is really fascinating. This is the future. It's the future of warfare as well be less human warfare and more machine. Warfare and that's where it can be used in a you know from a defense standpoint, but also if the Chinese Communist Party get, it could be used for bad. Purposes quantum computing. Whoever gets there first will control. It's like a the the space race to the moon. This is a race to control digital space and whoever gets there. I will control digital space, but quantum can also you can feed problems into supercomputing in unbelievable solutions to the problems of our day, including things like coded nineteen so I just you know. My Grandmother went from horse and Buggy to appeal to a man on the moon. I think our generation and the next one is going to see an explosive. Generate in generation way when it comes to advances in technology, and it's very exciting. WHO's leading the race toward quantum computing? Chinese are catching up there investing unlike us, we don't. We don't state subsidize I think in some respects we need it to have public private partnerships, investing in research and development of the Chinese are catching up and we can't afford to lose one. That's a conversation. We will have again at another venue congressmen. It's been a pleasure. Appreciate it. Stay well. Thanks for the time, and for those of you CBS everywhere else will see next week. 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Best of: Hollywoods Disposable Beefcake

Feast of Fun

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Best of: Hollywoods Disposable Beefcake

"We love the wild women outrageous plots and insanely hot hunks from these campy films from the sixties and seventies faster pussycat kill kill the rocky horror picture show myra breckenridge and beyond the valley of the dolls despite the success of these movies as camp classics after the film's release. These hollywood hunks disappeared. Even today they don't have much of a social media profile to celebrate their past glory. What happened to them. What was it about being a hollywood hunk that made these men run away screaming from show business. Today were joined by peaches. Christ who for the past. Two decades has been thinking about imperilling many of these campy films in her wildly successful film. Showcase midnight mass. Listen as we talk about the lives of these mysterious hollywood hunks and why they may have deleted themselves from show business and the phonebook for good why being a movie star isn't as glamorous as it seems plus check out photos of whether these honks look like today and in their past glory on our website to fund dot com. I'm fausto fairness i'm mark villian and this is feast a fun. hello hello. How hill is this cock suckers peaches christ on great. How are you guys good. How are things in. Mary land very relaxing in spring lake. Oh you're so lucky to have spring where you are we. We still have winter. Oh really know that The leaves are all coming out on the trees. And there's lots of tulips and flowers everywhere you know isn't making horny. Bring at mother's house peaches. Yeah it's lovely there this time of year. Yes it's very it's very nice. It's a good time to be here. I had a gig in new york this past weekend. And this coming weekend. I have a gig in philadelphia and so it didn't really make sense to fly back from new york to california only to come back to pennsylvania so it was the perfect opportunity to come down and stay in maryland. You know during the week and be here in visit and it's been really nice. It's been mellow and have been able to Kind of communicate with san francisco because we have a big show next weekend in san francisco so been doing a lot of skyping and Technologies amazing. I can be here and still working there. Thank you science your favorite next weekend. Is it spice world. Yeah we're doing. Spice world awesome with which. I've never seen that movie. Yeah that is that movie. It's pretty bad it's really bad. But here's the thing. It's so bad i mean. I was kind of oblivious to the spice girls. I mean. I knew who they were that you know. They were huge phenomena. You know years ago when they came out and But i was too cool for it. You know it wasn't wasn't for me. And then i went and saw their movie in a completely changed my opinion of them like i thought it was so charming in stupid and a reminded me of lots of the dumb movies. I loved growing up as a kid in it really. Endeared me to them and i remember saying to my friend after we saw the movie i said god i wonder if some day will will do spice for all that midnight mass and and here we are you know and you actually brought in a british drag queen for it to no three three. Yeah we have cheddar gorgeous. Playing the part of sporty in chatter gorgeous is from manchester england. And we have an mfa lactic or as she would say on. Philoctetes playing the part of posh and she's also for manchester in both anna and cheddar Were part of our barbarella tour in the uk and then In our show the richard. O'brien character. And barry humphries character are twisted in so they you know. Richard o'brien and barry humphries in spice world. So the barry humphries character in our show is going to be called lame edna and and she's going to be plagued by Baby lame from london. Who's this outrageous. Sorta punk rock drag queen. So we've got one london queen and to manchester queens and to rupaul girls plus me while caught doing english accents which i'm sure she'll be flawlessly. Yes we do. If caught doing english accent. I thought to myself well. She's good at accents. I've heard her do others. That with the criteria. Yeah and then. Honey mahogany had to be black. So cling scary so you must be ginger spice then of course hello. Veasley around her The group split up ginger spice to me is the best because she gets the best clothes and has the best hair and wears the most makeup. Did any of them come out as lesbians. I feel like one of them did with. Ginger wasn't would think it would be sporty if any of them. I'm like the way i wrote the show. Is you know in our version of the show sporty spices. Humongous clam shocker. Who wants nothing. But the china and tips through the whole show. She's obsessed with all of our tetsu. Yeah the black one. Melby who had a four year relationship with another woman really amen to fox. That's who i'm thinking. Yeah she's him out. Let's me touch me. I wanna feel your body know all those girls of been doing my research. And i like them all like the really likeable cast them in that role. I mean yeah. Great by favorite memory of the spirals was posh. Spicer's on larry king and she was interviewing her and they were taking questions from twitter from the internet or whatever and somebody asked like why doesn't she. Why does she never smile. She's just like why. I don't ever smoke because i really don't like my smile. And then larry gets her to smile. And it's like watching like this jackal entered urban. And you're kinda like you can see it on the internet. I'll i'll maybe i'll post all audience screen absolutely no winter. You smiled vista. You wouldn't smile yes. She's really likeable to like. I love you guys. haven't seen the movie. No oh my god. The movie is such a train wreck of epic proportion that that you just. You can't help but like it in the whole time. You're thinking like how the script makes no sense. I have to say like as a parody writer. Usually one thing that i have going for me is well like the plot is usually pretty well created. I mean with a few exceptions like grey gardens. Where i have to go in and and bent one you know. Most of the movies we parody have a three act structure that i can follow. Not this one. It makes no sense. It's just a total free from you really kinda if you someone like what is the purpose of spice world like what. What did they want. What are they trying to achieve. It's kinda like i. i don't know then it makes for idea. I hope she's read the script. Because oh my god i gave her a lot of potty humor like in our so like baby. Spice really has the sense of humor of a child. She wear diapers. Well i don't wanna give it all away but there is there is poop involved. Yeah sounds fantastic. So a number of years ago we were sitting around. We're talking with bruce of launch and we were talking about Some these can't movies. And i talked to him about beyond the valley of the dolls and one of the actors in it david gurion who plays harris. He's the manager of this rock band. The comes. la and they fall into this decadent lifestyle. You know i was looking at the imdb. He's like he was the manager of not the car. What does it carry nation jerry. Initially you know. And so every time. I see like these hot guys and movies. Check out on. And i'll look. What else do they do. When i was kinda surprised like that was the only movie he ever made. And then i also looked at like myra breckenridge and you had roger herren who played rusty rusty ascii and that was really the only movie he ever made to. Bruce is like oh yeah hollywood's disposable beefcake wonder if i'd heard that before from ham or someone else but when you contacted me mark about the idea of doing a disposable beefcake show i was like god. I know that. I've heard of this concept before but i couldn't find it on the internet like i was looking to see if maybe i'd read you know someone's so i don't know maybe you do. Listen to the podcast. And i may. I may have mentioned it on the podcast for you know so it may have come in through that way. I love it when the podcast come around and tell me what i said as if it was an idea that they heard else like. I'm like you heard me talk about that. They say oh. I was arrested last week. And i really people's hearts and i was like yeah. I wonder where you got that joke. That joke is it's that's reason saying to me is because they heard from yes you might wanna rethink either. Which one you you pull out that. That is one that gets told me all the time just so you know bianca bucks is in my show. I use it my show. So don't even don't even try to common claim that house you saying that cardi calming. She's gonna enjoy. I hope i don't take my more cries now. It's it's in the show that the child bianca says it at the beginning of the show. She's she stomps her foot and says i make the bianca box around here so decisions. Clip clipper that that will warm her to make him a little hearts. When when are you doing grace jones of view to a kill and casting violations i. I don't know five. Aces has seen my latest head piece popcorn asia. But it's a big head do popcorn. Atia is Ahead that sits on top of my head with a lot of blame on it. How's your head any complaints lately. So so let's talk about the hollywood hunks that are missing at large. And i think starting off with talking about david harris albright or harris. Sarah's ellsworth ellsworth. Yeah so he he just literally some people actually. I was reading about this elsewhere as eye contact everybody. I knew including christ about all these guys. And he may have faked his death or hated. Hated the job so much legally changed his name and literally every you know reunion every get together because a lot of these people were cast in the film because they never been in a movie before and he hated the experience so much like he would even do press for it. Well the thing is that movie is so over the top still wild and you know it's an exploitive and so i'm sure as an actor who probably felt very exploited we. I have done Beyond the valley of the dolls reunion event and at the time when we did it got it had been over ten years ago now i was able to get Three of the stars of the film. erica gavin marcia. Mcbroom and John lazar who played zemun and at the time there was a blu ray celebrating the anniversary and it was a big big deal that the guy who played harris had actually agreed to participate on. It was one of the things you know. He hadn't done anything for all those years Twenty something years probably at that point But i don't think he's done anything sense either so he's pretty much disappeared. I'm trying to find. And i've found on a message on a blog pop addicts Pop culture addicts. Somebody said that they were able to write. They left something on a message board a few years ago when a young woman responded and so the david. What's her father and he just you know. Thank you for your kind words and stuff like that. But he didn't want to be associated with the film wasn't interested in being in the limelight at all. But the thing about this movie to is value the doll shares Start sharon tate and they re released it after she was murdered And then of course beyond the valley of the dolls also deals with like these celebrities getting murdered two and so i think maybe with that whole helter skelter thing going on around that time too. And also you know spoiler alert. The movies very transphobic and that the the killer the murderer the bad person is a is a trans man now is that is that been verified by roger ebert in the script that it because we see the revelation is that the killer opens up his shirt and reveals that he has brass And a lot of people watching that film it was that he was a man who's transitioning to being a woman in the script. It was that it was a woman who had transitioned to be amara. We talked to dorothy. Jarallah your good gal pal drag queen san francisco and she said she read the script and scripted. Identifies it as a trans man. Jennifer is this person's a transplant in john. Czar when we did the show together described that as well that that russ meyer and roger ebert intended it to be a trans man. Meaning that zemun is how he wanted to present himself but that he originally had been born borne woman probably lived as a woman and an want felt that he was a man. It isn't an interesting. That z man and like how many gender neutral people want to use the pronoun sie. If we're just popped into my head. Just now i mean i was describing this movie recently when i was up in new york this past weekend to these young dancers who are in our show. I don't remember why came up but it did You know you know beyond the valley of the dolls and of course. None of them did not blows my mind. I'm thinking like oh you know what i it starts in. They start the movie and the credits actually roll backwards as the movie. Starting they show you the finale of the movie in the first five minutes. you know. we're erica gavin. Had the you know she's sleeping in the bed and all of a sudden the gun you know is put in your mouth and an extreme close up and she opens her eyes. And there's the gun you know in her mouth and you know they're like no we've never seen this and it sounds unbelievable and i'm like oh yeah and then they blow her brains out and that's how the movie starts and cuts to a rock performance in you know i'm describing the movie and get to describe zemun in their minds. Were blown like how could they not have known about this film and to me. Was this sort of sad like yeah. You should know about this movie. It's you know it's it's incredible and outrageous in you know it was produced by studio was russ meyer and roger ebert. S- you know kind of first. Big studio break raised about this younger generation. It's up to themselves to educate themselves. Maybe i should have been like bitches. You're on your own. It's very true and that kind of sense. You have to if you if you want to know something you have to take the effort and research and look at it and find it. Yeah you know. And it is definitely beyond the valley of the dolls definitely is as a camp gem. That's worth checking out for sure. If not just about dan lewis. Yeah i hope any of your listeners. That are listening. Aren't dissuaded by the news that there's a transphobic element because you know. I think it's fascinating to go back and look at at cinema For both its homophobia and it's sexism misogyny and it's transphobia over the years. I mean. I think i don't be put off by that. You go and seek it out in watch it and also i think there's an interesting psychology and we've talked about it on the podcast. Many times I know but what you know that many of us who are older. We're actually attracted to these characters. Billy i actually really you know what i think about it. I often identified and was fascinated with queer killers. You know and and and zemun was completely fascinating to me. You know in in really the queen of the character even though inequity rage the queer rage. God it is it is. It is the manson story. That's the finale of that film is is the inspiration from the charles. Manson sharon tate. You know murder spree And it's just fantastically fascinating and opulent in bizarre and horrific and one of the best original films and the fashion is just to die for and die for roger. Daltrey you feel like the The the secret. The revelation was tat was sort of put in at the last minute. It's because it was really. Yeah roger ebert. Dvd commentary that that he just came up with that of the last minute just to have some big boom revelation but a lot of people who are fans of the film say that the dialogue hints at the secret earlier on roger ebert and the dvd said nuts. Not the case. it was just a coincidence. and i think he might have even talked about how the the manson murders were added that this had been something they've been working on for years. I could be wrong about that. But fausto i was going to ask you if you knew One of the cameos in the film that i think is so interesting. Is that in zeman's party in in the second act of the film where we're introduced zemun and he. He runs in any looks at his party and he goes. This is my happening. And it freaks me how you know the woman who is wearing the black catsuit very sexy. That's haji from faster. Pussycat kill kill is in one of the Isn't she wearing one of the women costumes from the old batman tv series. I'll i'm not sure about that but it's very similar. you know. yeah. I believe. I believe that costume. Exact wardrobe piece from the tv show and a lot of i was reading. Also a lot of set pieces from beyond the valley of the dolls. Were also used for myra breckenridge. Oh wow hey there's now we've got to segues. You guys is sexual joke. Hold on to your job. Maybe you know because we're loves boobs so much. Most of his movies have so much boobs in it that he's just like why not give the dudes boobs to. That's pretty good mark and i have. I have an anecdote about those boobs. That's very strange. Tell me about those boobs beach okay. So when we did the reunion when we did the reunion Be in a book. If i ever right one but that weekend was one of the strangest most challenging weekends for me because of the Dynamic between the three cast members and john lazar brought his wife with him to san francisco. And i had them all at the same hotel. Erica gavin who who was vixen vixen. And marcia mcbroom who plays the drummer in the carry nations still so beautiful just very very beautiful and really was only in. I think jesus christ superstar maybe one other movie in left show. Business in a producer moved to new york. I'm marsha really hadn't done much of these reunion type of shows when we meet in the lobby. John lazar sees marcia. It's the first time they've seen each other since they made the movie. He points at marsha in says announces best lava. I ever had a which point the look on. His wife's face was pure horror. And marcia mcbroom just sorta smiled and bat. Her eyes like she. Was you know that that character in the movie all over again. Well the we go on. We have launched. We have dinner and more outrageous. Shit comes out as the weekend progresses but what we find out on stage when i start talking about those legendary tits is that marcia admits she still has them. She stole them from the set at the end of the movie because she was having an affair with john lazar and when they were done when they wrapped those scenes took the tits. She has them in her apartment in new york which she has the tits that john war. She has his prosthetic tits. Yes wow so. I mean i don't know for your for your nerdy called movie fans out there. I'm just. I'm a fountain of information like this. I just worry that you know with these young. The interest just. Isn't there anymore but to cares. Are you talking about rupaul's interview involved. Well we have had experiences dealing with the younger generation and they just you know you talk about something they just act like whatever and no big deal. It's not important to me. And then when they discover it on their own all my god. This is so amazing. I'm like i told you about that five years ago but i do think that your young listeners are much better informed and more engaged and interested people because meet Your younger listeners. Out on the road you know. They listened to your show because they want to know about this stuff. Which is very very refreshing. And that's why we do it. I don't know at the same time. I think you know. Young people really get hated on unfairly a lot. You know because. I agree with that. Because if somebody in their forties behaves entitled they call them an asshole but when like someone in their twenties behaves entitled way they call them a millennial. Truly it's probably not much different than when we were young. You know what. I mean if you really think about it like when i was young the vast majority of people my age didn't give a shit about old movies. I liked old movies. I went out and found out about. Russ meyer who you know was. Was you know a forgotten filmmaker. When i was a kid so you know. I think it's probably the same now. Where we you know gloves. All these young people together and really. It's like no the majority of young people are still tired just like they were when we were young and the the exceptional view who seek out you know a deeper history and culture and you know who watches old movies like amc is a lot of african americans black people because they would always talk to me about like. How do you know about this momentum. Watch it on tv. I've seen it because well. Yes that's for cable. But i was young. People used to always especially people used to tell me. I look like montgomery clift and like a white person their age would never even montgomery clift was right right. Well we ask so many other Great hollywood hung's to talk. Let's move onto russ meyer's other movie faster pussycat kill kill and just for the record My drag inspiration is tourist. Atanas shit kicking bad ass who also sort of reference and paid homage to and pee-wee's new film on net flicks. Brb not not not not really subtly either bridge on bert. It was really disappointing. I just want to say for the record. Seeing a tourist tana character in a movie with peewee herman and she doesn't break his spine or or like she doesn't really get into a fight with him and tourists. At tanah was a murderer. She was a shit kicking bitch. The she demon but d- i. I saw the movie in the theater and i saw with a full audience and i didn't know that there was going to be that era character like i hadn't really seen a clip or maybe i just. I really went to the movie kind of not knowing anything about it. you know. I didn't even realize that what you saw the peewee netflix movie in a theater. Yeah they netflix's did this thing where they on out. Movie theaters In san francisco and you could get a free ticket. You just had to reserve it online. Mama and i have to say i think that experience of going to a sold out Theater and seeing his movie like just when he first appeared. Onscreen in the whole audience erupted in cheers. You know like that that experience. Because i've heard from people who watched it at home and were underwhelmed and i'm like oh. I wish you had my experience. It was amazing. I mean the the balloon sequence with him doing the the balloon comedy bit was. I mean tears because the laugh the laughing is so infectious. But but i had such an emotional reaction to the movie because one. Here's this character. That i love so much that i'm so nostalgic about and there he is on the big screen in an in a in a new movie and i really liked the movie to. It's basically a queer love story from the from the point of view of a young sissy who Who's attracted to you. Know the big tough rockabilly muscle guy in the muscle. Guy is sweet and reciprocates the affection. That was beautiful in like nothing. I've ever seen before in presented in a way that was just so refreshing in cool and three. I didn't know that there was going to be this tourist tana you know a montage and so i got very wistful thinking about my friendship with tara and how much it would have meant to her to see herself immortalised in the new movie. You now So i was like crying by the end of the movie. I just had such an intense reaction to it. i liked like loved it so much But yes i agree that she wasn't maybe as tough as as the actual varroa would be but she was also peewee movie. Do you know what happened to the actor. Dennis bush who played the vegetable in faster pussycat kill kill. I emailed my friend about him last night. Twos in touch with him and Asked you know because we were talking about putting the show together if You know he had done any other movies and she said that she had not but that he's alive and well he's done some shows and Has an my friend said. Oh yeah he loved to talk to you he you know he's familiar with you because you know and i did a lot of shows together before she passed away so she passed along his email address but he's another classic example of what did bruce launch call it disposable beefcake disposable beefcake because he was so hot in that movie. I mean the scene. Where like he. He literally fights a car spoiling. That's how terrorist attack kills them so for about a five minutes on screen haters. Atanas trying to drive him crush against the wall. He's pushing against the car and he's using his hulk like strength to push the car back baltimat- -ly loses the car. Yeah yeah yeah. And they called him a vegetable because he wasn't supposed he wasn't very bright. Yeah any the three women. The three leads in that movie are so over the top sexy and he he. I think match. He's the male beefcake that they can haul believably lost after and you know and he's also really likeable but you're right like key is disposable. Beefcake he did another movie he never showed up and anything again and all of us horn gays are left to wonder whatever under these are both. Russ meyer films and you know. He's known for his exploitation films. I wonder if these guys just felt exploited by the experience or maybe because he was so hot for these women that the guys just kind of felt like while they were left in the shadow made them go running screaming from hollywood. I don't know because you know what. I was thinking about this concept. I was thinking especially with beyond the valley of the dolls. I'm like well one might say like. Oh well they were hired for their bodies so they're not really actors so maybe they didn't have the talent that would you know getting them more jobs. But i think that in the case of Harris or the guy who played him and beyond the valley that also quite good. He's good in the movie Well you know what. He's doing the role. He did on stage before he was in valley of the dolls. He played rumpelstiltskin prince theater. Children's theater and his university. I think that he was going to and You can google and find pictures of a makeup artist. Transforming him into rumpelstiltskin That's funny these guys were very much innocent in the sense that they didn't realize that being an actor requires doing a scene over and over again memorizing large passages of tax only to have it be rewritten at the last second and with a lot of hypocrisy and bureaucracy with the hollywood system and the other weird thing about most of the examples that we came up with and i don't know if this is because is what most of them were or because of the way we were thinking is that they're blonde There were discriminated against. Because they were so white. I don't know maybe we'll blondes are always evil. What did bart simpson say. The blondes are always evil and movies. The nazis well peter henwood who played rocky and rocky horror picture. Show for the longest time. The only thing on his imdb was rocky horror. I assumed it was the only movie i've ever made. But sometimes they up for whatever reason they decide to update their. I'm dp page. And so he actually made like a couple of other films but like very very very small roles. Right nothing like. They're all kind of notable from one. Big movie i and in even if they've been another movies they're usually movies where you go. You've never heard of them. And and certainly. Their performance wasn't notable kind of looking over one of the film's i it's on youtube. Tam lin and it was directed by roddy mcdowell. And it starts ava gardner. A beautiful ava gardner. This isn't this the seventies now so she's a little bit older but she plays a witch and she lives in this fabulous mansion out in the secluded area and she's surrounded by all these jet-setting freaks you know that she has come to her house because she believes spell over them so it's a little rocky horror ish and that's kind of sad but it seems like he was cast before and since his role in rocky horror and very similar roles where he has his very muscular body and very unusual body for the time period Because the inara it's like steroids weren't as prevalent People didn't understand how to build muscle as much as they do today. There was not like a gem culture or like you know supplements and remember wasn't made for you. Wait because you do like a man with muscles. So peter henwood. He was cast in rocky horror picture. Show over the guy. Rainer burton who originated the role in the original london stage show because he had screen experience playing the greek god. Hermes and the adventures of hugh leasees ministeries on british television in the late sixties. So it looks good in shorts. Because hermes always wore a little shorts. But i tell you. I've seen photos of rainer today. And peter henwood and rainer burton kept up his look over really he. He kept lifting weights and to this day. Rayner burton still a sexy sexy older man hen which is that. He stopped acting because he can't act. Like i'm a terrible actor so went onto become a you know. He ran an antique shop. Well this is what he said okay. I can't act. I cringe with embarrassment. Every time i see myself on film oh i relish a quiet and peaceful life. That's funny but rayner burn. Who was asked what he thought. Peter henwood he said. Very truthfully peter henwood was made to look a bit like a barbie doll in the film rocky has more substance than the film gives them credit for. I think at after the movie a lot of productions were influenced by the film and the character suffered because of that. I've often looked at actors playing rocky and thought to myself. They aren't allowed the opportunity to develop the character that i had been given. Well my suck davir stage role report taken away from you when a big movie comes out like that well then that happened and all about evil The person played peaches. Christ's wasn't you. They found some like a person. Show you what our hearts where to stop. Because i was thinking. Yeah you're right because my friend. Jen tear played the and she was replaced by natasha. Leo really yeah my friend. Jennifer played deborrah in the original so it was really really awkward the day that they were in a scene together. She's like this was supposed to be my role hind of and they sat down and they faced each other. And there's a scene where they're across the desk from each other. I don't know if this is true or not. But apparently Natasha was like before the season started. She said to jennifer. i'm deborah. now. I believe it. I believe jennifer swears. it's true. Turn to be funnier shady shady. Because i think natasha Is the kind of actress who on the set when she would be in that deborrah persona especially when deboer later in the movie the character becomes more and more wicked. Natasha would stay wicked in between takes and you know she could. She could save things where you'd look at her like what But i would. I would actually encourage it and enjoy it. Because i felt like it kept her ready to go. You know so. I really believe it because jennifer said because i was frustrated because jennifer is really really great and really talented. You could tell there was something off her game and And so. I pulled her out into the hall and said what's going on. You know like and she said oh my god i think she intentionally trying to throw me and i said oh no no no. She's just being deborrah. I mean talking about this probably won't take it out. Does this mean the tasha sexually harassed in orange is the new black cincyplay as kind of a compulsive. Sex addict flirts with them aggressively. I bet she does. Yeah i. I could almost promise you that she does. I think that she is that committed in natasha's not a lesbian. You know but. I bet she hits on the women A little bit by of course. Natasha is totally queer. You know what. I mean when this is this is a woman who uses queers gets you know But she you know her boyfriend. Is fred armisen right. now i'm in has been for a while So i know that she likes the d- Ooh comedy geek. D the deep comedy. Deitrich go ahead rocky horror picture. Show event that they're gonna do with laverne cox on fox coming up the part of rockies played by stas nair. Who's really doesn't have much acting credits. He's a model and he's been like in one other thing but dues all or something like that. But i mean he's he's certainly He's a dark hair in a town. That's for sure. Well we'll have to see if he becomes a disposable hong he just might be into the trash. Do you think peter henwood is gay. Because he started his career as a photographer then became a model and then he was doing the beefcake roles for british television then when he got unto into rocky horror and then since then he became an antiques dealer and And has a gay has a very very colorful collection of photos of the of his home on. Pinter wow that will post percent homosexual. And he's there's a bunch of nude photos that he's done and he has a nice girthy deck as long as it's wide and we're putting linked to that on the website so you guys have you have you dick pigs vintage dick. I wanna take homosexual from a known homosexual from an iconic film. You gotta go check it out because it is a nice there. I guess he found the gold pants any war in the movie in one thousand nine hundred four. He sold it to the hard rock cafe senior. Where it still hangs still hangs really. That's which one i in florida. I might want to say like north carolina or homophobic states. This i m db page. i believe. Yeah so what are the dig. That gold pants here. Yeah oh jesus. I think it's an honest australia australia. Oh you know what they do. They take the merchandising. They tore it around so like it made were might be. It might be the surfers paradise in australia so we don't really know. So what are the other movies. Camp classics myra breckenridge which is a movie based on a book by gore vidal and the book is supposed to be very good. I haven't read it but the movie just bombed at the box office. The critics hated it. And it's really just a weird fucked up kind of movie. Gorby doll hated it. Now you know and so the storyline is basically this person myron goes in has is a gender reassignment surgery in europe and then comes back is raquel welsh as my breckenridge and goes to her uncle pretended to be her. You know her dead names. A widow and He tries to get money from him instead. He gives her a job at the acting school. And then she kind of becomes enthralled with this rusty hausky. Who's an actor. Who is our next list of the disposable hunks. 'cause roger herring. I guess he had done one movie. There was credited and paint your wagon which is kind of weird too because it's like also sexually A weird movie. Because it's clint eastwood and a lee isaacs. No i forget his name but lee marvin and it's a musical and in it. They share a wife so it's kind of like they're living like this three way relationship like a strange movie but he's credited in it so the only move he really has a credit and is in my room breckenridge and i wonder you know because this movie they say that production was just so horrendous that market and working with mae west was so horrible and then of course in this movie raquel welch fox him pegged him because she puts on top tops She doesn't put on on. She still kept her. She s guy thinks she put some strap on pags them something. Yeah because this is establishing the film that she had gender reassignment surgery. They called her sex sex change sex change. Well i read the book. Nc in the movie. I can tell the listeners. This if you want a fascinating look at to me. What makes gorby doll so spectacularly fascinating and interesting is that this man who wrote this book myra breckenridge went on to become you know a major american spokesperson for history and culture. In a way that was is big is against you know in the late sixties and in so when you read this book it's kind of mind blowing to think that he wrote this book when he did and then it came out and it was so successful. I mean it came out. I think in nineteen sixty eight or sixty seven or something and You know the book obviously came out before so it's to me. I read the book. And you think. Wow what a brave writer. And then i think probably. It was a nightmare for him to experience the film which he was also kind of a an open queenie bidder. Sassy very very smart man. I think when you read the book and then you see the movie you totally get it because the book is brilliant. It's so good you'll read it within like a couple hours like you'll pick it up and you just get sucked in and it's so fabulous and then you see the movie and it's almost like a looney tunes train radin like completely like the. The tone is completely different. The whole thing is a mess. And you realize god america in hollywood ready for this. They were not ready for this at all and they didn't know what to do with it. The thing that confuses me the most about that movie is like they'll be like a scene somebody. We'll be talking doing these things in the middle of the do like these flashbacks and they'll show clips from old hollywood films like you know oliver and you're like what is going on here. Why are you doing this. And they they're going to punch up the movie with this but it's just it's terrible. That was the director aesthetic choice and there are rumors that he was high on cocaine in the editing room. And we'll just bring in reels of black and white stock footage or anything. And i believe that the studios got sued for using some of that footage without permission. Now who really hated that film to is work. Hell welsh and she said working with mae west was a nightmare and she firmly believes that mae west was a drag queen. She's just like a real and that he's released spread that rumor. She said that like may wash. Who's just terrible to work with and the scenes like she was always trying to hide her and the light hide her and darkness and do different things so she said she really had financial her way through all. This seems that she ever did with with her. Well you watch the film and can totally tell that raquel welch is not happy and she's very sort of like gina. Gershon and showgirls is sarcastically. Delivering her lines throughout the film. Well the other thing too it was supposed to be like a big breakout role for her because she had had some other acting experience. But like this was gonna be her big thing and then it was just like a just turned him into her big headache her vision do like a ten thousand b c with ringo starr. She played his wife died. She did like ten thousand abc. but i don't think she did the one with ringo starr ones. Yeah because she played cavewoman so she didn't have the best movie roles but she in land. America raquel welch was considered a sex icon in america as well but i mean like like i remember as a kid. They're like love songs written for her in spanish Mentioning her name. She was latino. wasn't she mexican. i don't now as she. Okay yeah for sure. I thought she was like a also. What is what is raquel welch heritage a. I'm thinking so feel around style. she's italian. Yeah so so but these two women were very beloved. Another guy who i wanted to bring up to is like you know because we talked about barbarella because pijar the guy who played tiger john phillip law for the longest time. His imdb was only for barbarella. I thought wasn't that kind of weird that he'll made this one film and so as we doing research for the show i went back and checked and it was like somebody beefed up his imdb so he did a lot of work in europe and did make lots of lots of films but for the for whatever reason for a decade beer barrel beer barral. Because you do that. Parity an angel does not make love because it angel is love. I do some honorary mentions here to dwayne jones. Who was in a way i'm sorry. Uk baby wanna take like rambling yourself. No no no. I wanted to do some honorable. Mentions here to dwayne jones. Who was a night of the living dead. Nine hundred sixty eight cult classic Because he made that movie and then he made a movie a couple years later like in the in the mid seventies and then he didn't make any other movies again until like the eighties so for whatever reason like the doing that role even though it's so iconic didn't really turn onto real work for him. Because i think that that movie challenged people on a couple of different levels because they had a lot to do with race relations in the united states at the time. And you know here's a handsome fellow and there's a scene where like you know he's inside with this white woman and you're kind of like. Oh my god is. Is this woman safer outside with zombies or she safer inside with african american guy though that contractually people forget is not only was it groundbreaking in terms of it being a new kind of zombie movie that was truly terrifying but it was also groundbreaking to make dwayne jones. The lead of that film at that time. You know a black man to be the hero to be the savior to be. The protagonist was unheard of you know and and because it was such a low budget indie film that you know. Jorge romero was able to like do that. If it were a hollywood film it would not be would not have been able to cast him and now known as we have like zombies like movies everywhere. We have zombies on tv. But at the time before this. Correct me. If i'm wrong zombie movies that were out there. Were like usually like food. Uis ambi- kind of this whole new zombie like the dead rose up and were coming after the living for sure it launched there would be no walking dead without night of the living dead. It gave birth to that modern idea of zombie in casting dilemma. What's so sad about it is we are still not that evolved. This year was really great. You know because of mad. Max and star wars but in general hollywood still has problems making people of color or women. You know the the lead the hero in but at that goes to show you how how exciting was then to actually you know. Have someone like dwayne jones. Play that character. Also who should get honorable mention his sam j jones who played flash gordon in the nineteen eighties. I guess it was a classic for a lot of people the sci-fi where he played flash gordon. He's a football player. And they travel to this other dimension to the planet mongo and they have to fight ming. The marcellus and it was his dialogue. Was all dubbed. Poor thing was yeah dub by somebody else by another actor. Oh i had no idea. Why did you watch those performances. Where you're like god. There's something weird about this. So if you watch star trek you'll see a lot of times mirror. 'cause they go in and re record things right that it comes through. So it's more clear. Well although klingons anybody who had lots of teeth frankie they all go in an rerecord their lines because you can't talk other teeth in their mouth that keeps them from an their lines. And sam had posed for playgirl and after the movie came out they rerun the photos. And i remember that making a big scene when our kids and he had done some movies after that but just never ever to that level and of course we all know it too. Because it's like you know queens theme song for that movie was just such a big hit. Well well what about the the boy. Who played charlie in willy wonka and the chocolate factory. Call him beefcake. Maybe he's no tv Leather data. i have to say that. When i was a little kid i had a crush on him because he was such a cute little kid and he was the only movie he ever made. He grew up to be a veterinarian. And i saw pictures of him were. He's wearing like just a leather vast gene cycle other vessel. I'm going to have to guess that he's gay if you're wearing a leather vest in jeans and a they handlebar moustache. Looks like right there at a leather conference or but not beefcake. Because he's a little kid will. Maybe because we couldn't come up with very many other examples. Maybe the listeners can post in the comments section all the ideas that we we missed. Because i've a feeling that there's a bunch more and we just part one peaches. This is joe. That's the thing so we can find out more because especially you know when you go into delve until like the horror genre. There has to be like so many of these movies. that are classics. That people have only just done that. One film well when actor of color. Kind of curious about is actor. Ken norton who played the hunk boxer. Meaty in the film. Mandingo nineteen seventy-five he. He like a lot of these. Hollywood hunks you know was did a couple of roles before or after and then just fell off the face of the earth and then thirty years later came back as a sort of vintage thirty. And i'm wondering if you know peaches because you you were friends with filmmakers. You've made no major box office hits yourself. Is it hard is. There's something about being an actor especially a hollywood hunk that we're just not seeing that is just so goddamn miserable that makes these guys run screaming from the I you know. I don't think so. I don't know what i can't that's why it's sort of baffling. The only thing that i kind of have come up with is that they may be Cast you know more. Based on their looks or their bodies and so if they didn't have a certain amount of ability or talent as onscreen performers that they wouldn't get cast again. But i don't know. I mean maybe maybe maybe they choose to leave the business because like mark said. They felt exploited. I really don't know it'd be interesting to go and ask them. You know maybe someone should Do something well. And i'm wondering you know like the season seven of rupaul's drag race was sort of a tainted or very criticized because a lot of the top drag queens from the season didn't wanna be actors. They wanted me models like right. It was more mandalit and literally. They've been getting gigs working runways and and trying to be more You know fashion sense ashen drag queens than than comedy queens or performance queens right and. I'm just wondering like this is kind of tied to each other in the sense that a lot of these guys. Don't enjoy the process of acting in front of a camera or on stage well plus when you're in hollywood to there's that that that they say you know i don't know if it's still the same but they have the casting couch and so maybe they just weren't into sucking cock that they needed to keep their career going back to that started out as a hustler. A lot through. So vaster stallone. Arnold schwarzenegger yeah. I mean they. They yeah a lot of these early bodybuilders and physique guys paid for their food and their training and their gym memberships with worship. Why by going to rich men's homes and flexing and possibly doing other sexual things but You know they were certainly like very comfortable in putting themselves in homo erotic situations early on in their careers and that guy. Who does the tv show hung actor. Forget his name but he he. He said that he was a hustler. In hollywood when he first started out thomas jane. That was at yeah. He said that he He he did male prostitution when he was young and so i think prepared him for his role as always that. I haven't seen you know. I've watched some of it but i have Hbo anymore. and i don't. I do believe it was canceled. It was on for like two or three seasons. So it's really been enjoying oj. I you know. I haven't seen it at all. I haven't really. it's very. I find it very satisfying and delicious. And the new theory is he didn't kill her. There was a son has was his son. Jason who was working in a restaurant and nicole was supposed to come and eat with a bunch of her friends and he made her all this food and she didn't show up. she belongs. She had he has. He has a mental disorder and then he went and killed her and so helped. Cover it up. Because he didn't want his son to go to jail. That's what a new documentary is coming out. And saying so. So he'd and the reason that the police didn't go that route is because they were so drunk framing on framing oj that they tainted their own evidence and so became a cover up of the of the l. a. police departments and aptitude. So they couldn't go back and be like well. We change this so it'll be interesting to see how it goes down. Say that he. Didn't you know that he wasn't abusive to his wife. Because he was that he didn't do a crime that he should spend the rest of his life in prison as well but but but it is so. I guess you know white. People and black people can be at peace with each other. Oj didn't do it but at the same time he is guilty of heinous crimes and deserves. I worked at michael jordan's restaurant. So i worked with a lot of african americans while the trial was going on and there were some women that i worked with the. They're just like i just don't i just can't believe he did it. He just didn't do it. And in my mind i'm like of course he did it. Why wouldn't they do it. You know so. I wonder if it was just my prejudiced. Well that was like. That's one of the things about the timing of this tv show that so Fascinating is is sort of any of us that lived through that. And we're here especially in the united states because i know from my partner knee hot. He doesn't really get it the way that i do because they didn't experience at the same way in turkey where he was In i'm explaining it to him like you don't understand like this. This was the entire country by this. And you did not escape it and it took over all of our lives and win the announced the verdict What was so shocking. For white america was to realize how different our points of view were. Because i mean everyone can remember if you were in a mixed environment that white people reacted one. Why in black folks reacted and other and even though it was two years after rodney king on we just didn't have the perspective in in our own sort of white privilege and denial didn't wanna believe you know that it was that bad for black folks or than the police were so awful. And i think what's interesting about this. Tv show coming out right now. Is it's after years. You know the last few years of just atrocious reality banging over the head. Unless you're just completely ignorant you know racist our last tag. The the black lives matter movement. I if you don't get it at this point. I don't i don't even know that you you just. You're not listening you're not paying them. You're racist yeah. You're not listening. And so that's why. I think in some ways. I'm so gripped by this show now because that thing. That was so boggling to us as white folks then and i was young. I was in college. is is is a lot easier to understand now when you watch them. Put mark furman on that Jury balk sorry on stand and the witness stand and find out that he uses the n. word regularly well. if he's the guy collecting the evidence like it all makes sense in a way that he didn't back then we all looked at each other. Like how could they not find him guilty. You know well. I don't know. I actually think the whole thing is the perspective with which we can watch this thing now is what makes it so satisfying as a work of art in us. Oh serra paulsen is so brilliant and the performances are great and you know ryan murphy's great at creating entertainment so it's not you know it is entertaining and it's wildly dramatic but it's also socially so relevant right now and you know the biggest crime of all. Is that the trial that was called. The trial of the century launched the kardashian media empire. Even the way that we've been. I think is really interesting. Because i find kris jenner to be repugnant person but watching some ah blair play her and for her to be the first to say you know. He did this and i want to help. Put him away while her ex husband in her arguing and to have that sort of perspective about kris jenner is interesting. You know it's all very fascinating and you know the they. They introduced the kids you know. And you know there's a whole sequence where oj's threatening to blow his brains out in you know you realize he's in kim kardashian bedroom and you know like the way that they whether it's true or not Some of the stuff that they do is sensational. And i think most of it's true. Because i i went online and started watching these marcia clark interviews and stuff where she's like. Yeah basically this is true. This stuff that you wouldn't even think is truly flirtation and behind the scene stuff Nobody's really denying that it's inaccurate. I recommend it a lot. I think it's a real shock. Yeah it's really interesting. I'm super excited to see you. In austin texas later this month at the festival. I can't wait. So when do you guys get their their on. Tuesday i think and then we leave tuesday because pastas families there so we kind of use this as an opportunity to have a little good because they're flying me in on wednesday at six in the morning for. Oh why. I don't do anything until thursday so i'll be up at the airport Say i'll be waiting in san francisco. And i'll have an entire day in austin with nothing to do. We'll go to barton springs bringing suit. I will love that okay. We'll go hang out no photos. No why not beach photographed topless. We'll get you in the wadis photograph. You both photoshop ads. Like i do for myself. You can put me at my head on the body of these disposable on okay. Let's say we we promote something. Okay our own life. Podcast at the austin drag festival. That's happening at three. Pm in the afternoon on thursday. That weekend i should come to that. Yeah would you like to show up drag and be part of it now. I'll come on do what you only when you do have drag or something because mark and i are going to dress up in drag for are yeah surprise surprise and we're doing a drag number is a state of the of the drag verse address retail. So we're talking about all the important significant drew. What time is your thing on thursday. It's in the it's in the afternoons. It's not during your own thing. Oh good okay. My things starts at three thirty. So what times are too. I think they're they're not. They're not of the same. Yeah well i'll go to yours and then you guys can come to mind maximum. I'm so excited yours. To doing the girls will be girls for union. No mine on thursday. As the children of the popcorn have a visa from live is at two. Pm my things at three thirty. Yes so it's one right after the other and it's in the same space it's at the holiday inn in mid town fiscal fisk. Ville road in drag for your the children now. No so the whole idea is. I'm doing a workshop on the behind the scenes being a self produced queen how to not rely on others to be your producer your writer director how to create your own call to your own business in so doing. I'm leading it. As joshua no common. And then on friday i'll be peaches i'm hosting the girls will be girls reunion. Show and i'm doing dracula that night. So i'll be peaches all day and night on friday so you can pick. My brain is joshua on tuesday income. Sienese peaches on friday now la. The girls will be girls. Reunion takes place at one o'clock in the afternoon just so you know that mine says twelve forty. I don't know how i'm sorry. Yeah well once. They have to To things listed in the in the event but they said that it's limited seating so if you're planning on going there show up at least an hour early to To be to get into the room because It will sell out. So let's rate are that we talked about on our hotness disposable beefcake o meter so the four wheel dentist bush who played the vegetable and faster pussycat kill kill. Roger herren rusty gutowski from my robot can ridge david gurion who played harris ellsworth and beyond the valley of the dolls and peter henwood who played rocky from rocky horror picture. Show and your hotness from hottest to least hot who would you like to sleep with the most back then or today well back then of course from the ball the vegetables. What the hottest one for you. Yes okay and second. I think maybe the guy for myra breckenridge rusty rusty rusty third Let's see who's left beyond the valley of the dolls. Yes david grant. Or peter hood from rocky. I think david. And so lastly would be rocky. Yeah you know. I never really was into rocky. Is that neither. Until i saw that. And now i'm like more size queen in some respects. It's not really important to me the size of a penis. But it's like when you have a good sized pianist. I ended mirer right like they won and it looks good. You know you're not. Yeah so for my list. I would because i'm a sucker for a guy with a hairy chest blue eyes and dark hair. Thank you so. I would definitely go with david. Jerry from beyond the valley of the dolls. And then after that i would pick dennis bush the vegetable because i like the guy a black guy with muscles and then i'm kinda like between peter henwood rocky dick versus rusty good hausky. I don't know. I think i'd probably go with russi get hausky and then and then rocky. Last foul sewers similar. We're so we're choosing from the four or four okay. So we're not including john phillip law nightmare. No because he had more films under his belt and he. He's kind of like an honorable mention. he's trash and he would be at the bottom of my list anyway. Yeah me too. He's like a circuit party guy for angel games. Sort of like greased up. I feel like Roger heron is the least appealing of of the four. Of and part of it is that he struck me as an unhappy person in the role that he was in. The other guys were seemed like you know new things were happening so when you when you look at them in their appearance in these films peter. Henwood david curran and dennis bush. They all seem kind of like stuff is happening. They're energetic they're their presence in. The film is is enthusiastic roger. He's held at gun point out most of the film and it seems very unhappy so he doesn't strike me as somebody who's the bottom of your last dennis bush because of the fact that he so voluptuous and he's in some ways an innocent character and faster pussycat kill kill and of course that. Just remarkable body and muscle chaser. Well also i think he's the only character in the film that they actually show making out and making love with one of the female leads all the all. The other guys are sort of in a fight or in a dysfunctional relationship or their. You know running away from somebody who's sexually attacking them like peter hain would and rocky horror picture show. He's being chased by by people throughout the film. He turns a susan serandon sort of to nurture his fears. So it's not as a sexually appealing. David gurion does is very sweet and very innocent. But i think dennis bush wins as the hottest of the hollywood's forgotten. Hunks okay. wow. That was quite an answer. So you're listening. I and i and then david gurion and then rusty yeah okay rossi seems seems so unhappy and you know you just know this guy like he was a volleyball player and in the military and then he became this actor and it just struck me as somebody who was like didn't know what to do with his life worth. Peter would seem like a gay guy who was having fun throughout the all time truly dennis bush. He strikes me as somebody who looks back at his experience in. Russ meyer's faster pussycat kill. Kill as with. Lot of fondness. Well he lives in san diego. You said that's kind of like a muscle capital of the world. Lot of lot of bodybuilders. Go there the die and dentist. Bush still looks good to this day and so does the. What was the name of the rainer burton. They're still you know. I think part of it is it's not it's you know. Beauty is something that it's a mindset. it's a lifestyle. It's not just something you do when you're young and then you discard it as you age. It's about taking care of yourself and loving yourself and being a happy person and don't dispose of your own beefcake ability right. Yeah keep working at it. That's exactly peaches. Thank you so much for coming on the podcast and talking about all these hot men with me. Oh yeah and. I'll see you guys soon in texas in taxes. The stars big. We're gonna right. Yes deep in the heart of texas. We're going to go to the springs and teams. We invite christine for sure. You know she and i went cruising together. So we're we're we liked to swim swim together so i'll reach out invite christine and will spend wednesday together. If you guys have the time we have the time. Yeah all we need to do is we need to do a sound check for our podcast on thursday the years. I also need a camera person to run our video camera for the live. Podcast anybody in texas volunteer peaches cameras. Why not if. I can't find anybody else because i might need you for the live. Podcast because we're really trying to get like a wide variety of drag queens but you always have such interesting things to say about the state of the union of drag. Hello well as long as you're comfortable with me being out of drag. I'm all for colorful and visual to wear even if it's not peaches like maybe like a piece of clothing or or something that you own that has visual significance to your career. Of course that's what. I always do that way. It's a good compromise. Because it's like i'm i love you know that i am sitting in my mother's home wearing a sweater with the triptych face of anthem avai on it. So why don't for people. Who don anton levay famous satan. It was founded the church. Satan and my clothes i would wear something of interest because i think the big critique lem last year is a drag queens didn't want to be in drag But she so she started calling the other guests of our podcast telling them that they didn't need to show up in drag for. Don't show up and drag. Because i'm not showing up in drag and so then lady read couture gotta win this. And just she was furious. Outed them was it. The thing about it is as long as it's pre-negotiated you know you if you so like me. I'm being clear up front. I don't wanna be in drag on thursday because after being dragged for twelve hours on friday. And you know. I i think if you ask other queens are you. Are you willing to come. And drag than they should go and drag. You know. I always stick to my word but i must have pretty upfront about it. I'm not gonna you know someone tries to me for something. And i don't want to do it in drag like a radio interview or something like that. I'll say i do it. But i'm not gonna come in costume. You know bring life brings up because it is being videotaped so it's we need to see something interesting. Okay like us with the because you have so many cool things in your storage locker and in your in your a wide collection of clothing both male and female. I'm going to look like a damn fool and then you guys are going to be like. We can't use the audience know market. I this is. Do i tell you. Tell i'm i'm we're. We're working round. The clock on creating. Some amazing just came up with this harebrained idea. That cla listen. We gotta run. But i wanna take and we'll see you soon. Baby yes see soon all right i do you wanna let go a pizzas for each built people where she lives. Peaches credit addresses pitches. Christ lives in san francisco. You can find out more about peaches peaches. Christ dot com. Yeah so hollywood hunk. I know it seems like we really scratched the surface and i feel like the story of gorgeous white men struggling to we shoe onto lack i in their ideal couple black man but it really is like the story of of a male privilege and how it's not always as glamorous i- is that right maybe i don't know but it is sort of like a lot of these guys especially i feel like roger. Harun seen like really distraught. His appearance in the film and the fact that he like got fucked by raquel welsh in the movie. Had where's dennis. Bush and peter hain would seem like pretty happy with experience david griffin he. Didn't he ran. This offer ran screaming from hollywood change. I'm sure he changed his name. Legally he like i called a bunch of people. He literally like within a year of making. That film disappeared and was never heard from or seen again. And maybe yeah guys. 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"Let Great is here on the Fleas Radio Network as usual pretty slow Newsday not much on the key scissors breaking news right now. Too Big story right now is we got two women including one American have won the Nobel Prize in Chemistry. There you go why and airing work on genome editing that's fantastic. Big News of the day. Big Big big news. Okay. And have they. Does that mean that they've decided on the Nobel Peace Prize winner as well. You know I think let's see here. 'cause if it's trump I think that would be story. Let's see. It's going to be announced on Friday Friday. This is written in European Friday nine October. At Eleven? What is cat. It's not central time because that would be C. T. or C. S. T. or CDC DT's yeah. Ee I don't I don't know that is I mean it's like. It's like BBC is before common era a whole now yes. C E is common here. Is it common airtime? Is that what this Common Eric Common era? So eleven o'clock common airtime on Friday night over yes. We're going to know who wins the Nobel Peace Prize. Seriously bizarre absolutely bizarre being told, it's don't ruin it. What is it? He's ruining it for US Central European time how will come? To No real answers rob. Plus who cares about they actually have a European time one of. Our time. Shouldn't the rest of the world just go by what time it is here? Yeah. They should. They should learn a thing or two year pay attention you good. We'll get you people on track eventually I, mean it's why we left that stupid gutten in the first place. Thank you. All right. Are we getting ready to of the daylight saving time thing though I want to so badly seriously except what they're talking about is, yeah let's stop switch. We'll just always be on daylight time. No just always be on standard time. There's no reason for that. Anymore we're not an agrarian society anymore I don't know of anybody notice that. Anybody. Fewer. About, that Florida wants to get off of it and Congress has just sitting on that bill yeah. Come on. What we could do? Yes we could. Talk about. Riveting, and I'll tell you another thing. The BBC thing pisses me off just wanted to remove Christ from the reckoning of time Yup I'm sorry we still recognize record from that time. We don't admit it now. So before common era, what was that? It's work CA Christ was born. So that's still the the the mark that we use. I is exposed to that was an art history class don't judge I needed the credits in university, of Nebraska and I'm like what the Hell is doing. Then he hasn't been that long twenty five years ago. She sent him like, why are they adding an? On this it was. Yeah we're good times. All right. So the Lakers went up three to one on the Miami. Heat last night and It was actually witnessed by seven people on television seven people to right yeah. How? Tripled their audience from the game before which is Great. I love this, and so we get this tweet from many. A little girl number her win played her in a long time but she looks like she she doesn't. Impersonation she tweeted out the NBA finally. Equality. Okay. They have the same readings as the WNBA. That's an awesome tweety, a- and. We got I know you don't need me to tell you this but. I got one alert on my phone last night. That's like there was a wnba champion like crown last night. I think really. Yeah. Seattle storm congratulations. Woo Storm Kate Good. The one sport that was not affected by the ban crowds. Games that was just standard fair man. And so great. So. Will. They ever get the clue that nobody likes nobody cares about their sport nobody watches their sport that's they're completely subsidized by the NBA, which now by the way is going to have a difficult time subsidizing even themselves Oh, that that can trickle down to the WNBA. Distance could. Yep. All right. So we had some anti-trump protesters. Are these. This is interesting. assist the bar. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. This is like dog. This is good stuff. Watch this. Is this is how the left protests and twenty twenty. That's It is they are animals. WORKS OUT NICELY Hamels. Lunacy. Substance. Just, bark in your face. Good. Tactic. That That helped write that help that furthered humanity that got us a little further down the road somebody clicked on that video and undecided voter. So whoa WHOA. I. Love that. That's great. Four I'm going on that side Liden. Yeah me too. Yeah. Me Too now because that was really. Profound. Is it too soon? And my state. Some states it is I'm ready man I can understand your eagerness. We amazing. Also. Biden at his town hall with Lester Holt have this was from Monday night. Yeah and he's just making his usual says a montage of his greatest hits from that. Good. Turn ten thousand people have died. Positive for. Again with the number telling you why can just start peppering him with numbers at this point he's got to do. Ten million. I mean ten thousand. What start this over because it's incredible to me. that. Every time and it's not an exaggeration. Every time he's hit with a number weather reading it or it's coming from his. For the top of his head he gets it wrong. Erdos. Turn, ten thousand people have died. If masks between now and January same hundred. He said we it's more important than virus while she human. Vaccine you know people like. Hoping. Everyone. Wonderful. You didn't. positing and I hope I. Hope You know people who've had. Kovin I. Hope You have it. I. Hope I get it. I hope you've that is bizarre. If you don't see the the disintegration of this man, right before our eyes and yet. He's up by sixteen points in some polls. Up. All right. Let's see this. Wonderful. You did it. I learned how to got a nickname that call me shoe leather I was little. Thank you. The process. What. They call the Shula Shula leather because he could he could fight but they beat him up in the process. Them in the process. What does that have to do a shoe leather? Sounds like you need the nicknames Baz or something I learned how to fight got a nickname to call me shoe leather I was little. The Process was it corn pop? Was Pop, the beach up because don't mess with shoe leather unbelievable. Wow. And then what about the? What about the Harry? Legs? Why didn't we? Sit on the stand. And it get hot I. Got I. Got Harry Legs. Turn. Turn. Blonde In. The Sun. To come up and reaching the pole and rub my leg down, your girl was traded watched the hair. Let him do that. I'm sorry you let they look at I live about roaches I learned about kids on my lap. And loved kids jumping on a lot of course you have Kershaw we. We've seen that multiple times. All, right. Well, there's a little something some from shoe leather, but think of. From trump's perspective at these debates, he needs to figure out ways to not only get him. Joe. Biden to discuss numbers. But facts that would make him look bad if he doesn't screw them up like what year did you start working in Washington DC? Right Oh, I started back in. And if you just have no idea, but if he throws out nineteen, seventy five. It was running around there. Right generally to. The. Not Me because I'm bad at math and I would obviously be a prime example someone's screwing up like this but he's either going to screw up the number when he responds where he's going to look like, oh, my gosh. Long. Time problems since Nixon was around the wonder disintegrating. Mind Wise. Now because he's been there for fifty years almost he's Also tonight is the big vice presidential debate I'm actually kind of psyched about it because I think Mike Pence is going to do a good job against Kamala Harris. Also, it is one of the most conservative people who was in Congress when he was there against the most liberal legislator. in Congress well. In the Senate. So it's a battle of clear ideologies. I mean you you. You've never had a more clear line of delineation here than Mike Pence and Kamala Harris. Glass, in between that'll be fun. So I did not realize until you just said this the comma. Harris had the most liberal voting record in the Senate last year and remember in two thousand eight. You had the third most liberal Senate voting record in Barack Obama in the most liberal Senate voting record Joe Biden Now you've got. In harass another super liberal everybody's calling them the moderate. Ticket Tom on it doesn't. That's there's no such thing really in the Democrat party anymore right as moderate and she was she has a more liberal voting record. Then Elizabeth Warren. And Bernie Sanders who I believe were second and third Incredible really incredible. Keystone pig tweets out about the debate tonight. I wish someone would ask Comma Harris. If she still thinks Joe Biden's racist. and. If not why she called him one and if so, why did you agree to be his VP? At, better be S I hope. So that would be. Awesome. Meanwhile Michelle Obama Ah is inserting herself into this race this. Is. Agonizing. Let's start with the first one, which is just her. Lecturing about how bad be prepared to stop because there's a lot to deal with here. But this is. This is how bad a donald trump is according to part is it didn't have to be like this. Look around the world. So, many other countries aren't experiencing this level of extended suffering and uncertainty. These countries were hit by the same viruses we were. They have the same kind of resources to contain it as we did. But what they didn't have to contend with was was this president, Don? Man who have every resource disposers and he didn't use. Medical experts. Best Intelligence Intelligence and. All the advice, all of failed to produce a plan to provide enough test, no plant families or pretend testing more than any other country on earth in fact I think we've tested more than all the rest of the countries combined. That's how much testing we've done. We're testing something like three million people a day right now. A day. What do you want here and by the way since when has been the president of the United States is responsibility to provide masks for hospitals. Don't they do their own planning is not a hospital administrators job. As a president is he supposed to call every hospital in the country before a pandemic comes up and say, Hey, how you guys? Fitted for PPA's you doing okay. Everything you need all right What do I need to send you? Do I need to send your masks ventilators? What? What do you need? That's up to the people in their own jurisdictions to take care of those things. When did this become a federal government job? You know how big the government has to be in order to take care of every single need that arises in this country. Wow all right. Go ahead families or protective equipment for our healthcare workers. A man who knew how deadly this virus is who lie to US And told us it would just disappear. Who in the greatest crisis of our lifetimes doubled down vision and resentment railed against measures that could have mitigated the damage Cuco mitigated news some hold massive events without requiring masks or social distancing knowingly exposing his own won't orders posit why would would he be more of a dictator? Why won't he tell you what you should do every step of the way? Why won't he demand that you wear a mask and not leave your house? Come on why is he allowing US Freedom? Why? Don't you hate him for that. Wouldn't it be great if he told us, we can't leave our house and your home you must wear a mask. I don't want you to kiss your wife on Harelips. Both of you must be wearing a mask every time you do it. So that's what we need. That's what we need is an authoritarian dictator. Why isn't he doing that? Go on this guy. Or social distancing knowingly exposing his own supporters to a dangerous virus Oh man. Today more. Americans have died from this virus than died in the wars in Iraq Afghanistan. Afghanistan Vietnam Korea combined. Yeah. Take all those lives bravely sacrificed and double it. That is rough. Our full show tragedy shots. Roughly our Mandarin chief sadly sadly has been missing action hasn't been. Mismanagement of the Cova faces is just one one. More because there's a lot when wildfires. Out West, he says nothing. Nothing nothing when I'm there. All background all back peacefully protest rally protest police. Peaceful disparages them. All right. Let's. So So. Wildfires what do you want him to say about the wildfires these fires are hot. That I can tell you now. You're not hot. My wife is very hot. I'm. Hot But you know and I know that you are not hot. But remember only you can prevent forest fires. That's what he should say I guess I. What Are you going to say about the wildfires in California? Oregon. Washington. There are bad like wildfires they should not be burning. Hey how about you guys and he has said why don't you do a little something about your forest management? Why don't you do something about the underbrush so that when you have a fire, it doesn't burn like this and burn everything else down around it. How about that? Then I also love Americans peacefully protesting racism. Or? Now who's ignoring the real problem hey, pudding did you notice at all that there were also some riots and looting? Did you notice that and that people were killed? In these peaceful protests and did you also notice you and your stupid ass husband have said nothing to stop it nothing. Except encouragement. Did you also notice That you said nothing about the fifty or so police officers who have been killed so far this year many of them since March. Not a word, not a word out of you and your wonderful husband. Aleksey, the rest of this. country. He calls them suckers and loser. Mocks Gold Star. Families. Prisoners. Of War. All this from someone. Who has a wealthy connected young men appointed military service all right positive. This unbelievable now, the lie of the century once again. Just keep repeating it. Responsible dolt without an ounce of evidence. Not An ounce. Let alone proof. Just keep telling people the lie that has been. Debunked by everyone who was actually with him. Anybody, who actually has first-hand knowledge has said no that didn't happen. Absolutely did not happen. And they keep using it, they keep saying it over and over. then. She breaks out that he avoided. He's a wealthy as a wealthy young man. He avoided he avoided military service I'm sorry. Remind me again where did your worthless Marxist husband serve. In the Tomb Gang, that's where he served. Yeah. While listening to France. Vanstone and hanging out with the chicanos. Structural feminists. Marxist professors. That's right. Yeah. That's right. He was way too busy becoming a Marxist Leninist to join the military right. And just familiarize anybody who doesn't know the wonderful works of Franz. Von Known. His works are. Big. In the field of post colonial studies, critical theory and Marxism these big Marxist so It's just Barack Obama learning about Marxism that's what he was doing the whole time he could have been in the military. This is just. Despicable play the side by side thing with her and What was going on? In the peaceful protests, they're stoking fears about black and Brown Americans lying about how minorities will destroy the suburbs right whipping up. Threat Duty. and. They're pinning it all on what's been an overwhelmingly peaceful movement. Racial Solidarity. True it's research backs it up only a tiny fraction A. Tiny fraction her. Tiny. So what the president is doing is once again. Patently, fault. It's morally wrong. And yes, it is racist. Meantime work. Difficult time confusing time. When people hear these lies in crazy conspiracy. Over and over and over again, I. Don't know what wave latest feasible. Before peaceful. Fraction of businesses being destroyed people might get. One thing president there's no problem here. IS USING FEAR To win our she is hideous. Oh. Yeah. Yeah. She's willing to fact, check for us because we don't have time she says, we're too busy back check and see that he's lying to us right. So you just tell us everything we need to believe. Okay. Yeah. I I believe your fact check. My Gosh I. Guess it is a tiny fraction when you consider every single business in the United States and the ones that they've destroyed so far and by the way they have threatened how many times they threatened they're coming and they've come out to the suburbs. And wreaked havoc in in the suburbs why do you think the Mayor of Chicago had police officers stationed daughter street because they were coming after her and she didn't like it then but she kind of is she totally Angie's change the narrative she said. That they're seeing that black and brown people are coming out to the suburbs. No, we're saying lemon and Tika right it's all colors coming out to the suburbs, right? So don't try to even change it like that either. It's yeah and there's absolutely there's footage from neighborhoods and suburbs of. Destruction ANTIFA BE. LMU. Arching down the road and causing fronting destroying property. So far I don't think they've dragged anybody out of their home yet but wow. It's not much of a stretch to think that's coming. Yeah. We've gotten I've gotten very very close to that. They have they've gotten close to it. And after the election, if trump wins, what do you think is going to happen It's either great have. A more enraged mob right or you're going to have an empowered mob. Either way the future this great it does doesn't. Yup It does. All right. Let me take. Tell you something good. That can happen. You could stop losing your hair. Now, if you are losing your hair, you can go to your doctor tried to get a hair loss treatment prescription from him. Then visit the pharmacy and try not to go broke. Trying to avoid going bald or. You could try keeps from the comfort and privacy of your own living room. You'll get the same doctor recommended FDA approved hair loss treatment, but keeps offers the generic versions. So the cost you about half the price. And you'll also love the fact that it's all online. 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Guess it was just a butcher knife so No wait it Whoa, it was way worse than any of that is there wasn't wearing a mask so they arrested him at school sh. Sixteen year old boy with a naked face could face the kid facing propaganda cover up men the lawyer for the family of the sixteen year old boy refusing to wear a mask at a central Florida high school called the incident government abuse of a teen suffering from panic attacks. The Winter Springs High School Sophomore whose name was redacted was arrested after refusing to wear a mask and abide by other schools which violated probation order the required him to maintain good behavior. Jose Rivas the family's attorney said, the teenagers prior record didn't justify what he viewed as uncalled for action should they be arresting a sixteen year old child knowing he already has a medical condition? It probably not. Going to say probably not. rebus. In his law firm called, the arrest government abuse will be seeking Justin Fair compensation for the illegal arrest and the harm that this action caused him. He has anxiety disorder so you can imagine if you've got that and your. Demanded and demanded that you wear a mask that's GonNa mess you up a little bit. Should. You be arrested for not wearing a mask? We've got the same problem we had with the woman who was watching her son at the football game not wearing a mask. They arrested her made a big scene in front of everybody in the stands Cuff Ter- took her down to the station. They did the same thing to this kid at school sixteen years old. These by the way, these are not laws that are being broken their executive orders from mayors and governors. I just. How long are we going to have to put up with this? Wow well, as somebody pointed out on twitter when they get a vaccine. Oh, then at all, well, it all keeps going, but you'll be able to have the vaccine and the mask at that point. Well, those aren't GonNa wear a mask we should be punished. They were saying, yes I not being able to get a vaccine. Well, then you'll get a vaccine. Oh No. Really all right. We have lost our minds as a society. Yeah we have. Do you WANNA play the funeral in Britain here? Do you? Good Place. So set the scene here it's a funeral social distance. You're sitting six feet apart from all the other grievances in your family, and obviously they only allowed a few people to come right? Right. So you've got right in the front center. You've got the lady whose husband her lifetime partner is in the casket there and her sons. Are Socially distanced away from six feet apart, and then they think you know what I'm going to go and console mom because she's crying here at the death of her husband role that. Role that bean footage privileged enough to conduct seven today to celebrate holidays. Right in the middle of the service, he comes over puts his arm around her. So does the other brother you a very warm on. I can do to. To. Up Sorry Lorenzo. But. You were told and we're told you get back to where you were. You're telled, put your chairs back. Where they were, you were told I would jammed that chair right up is rectal cavity. So far that you would have been pulling the chair out of his mouth. Yes. Well, I wouldn't have touched the chair because at that point. I think heat the moment I'm going for the full dramatic effect I'm I'm GonNa take the chair right through. Right in the middle of the surface he doesn't care. We have lost our humanity man that's crazy. Are you kidding me. The two brothers are probably around their mom without masks every day right, and now all of a sudden because you're in the funeral home during a service, they can't be next to each other and I agree with that. Jackson. They're always around her. But I don't care. It doesn't matter you WANNA roll man. Off Ludicrous we. Write this site we. GotTa. Stop you. GotTa you know the problem there. The bigger issue there is they didn't make a big scene. I know it was a funeral and everything, but you gotta stand up to the stuggling. Hat Gray. The blaze radio network. And Welcome. Thanks for being here. Triple Eight, nine, hundred, thirty, three, ninety, three got some tweets at Pat unleashed? Devon Crossley tweets rock skipping. Will get a larger audience watching the WNBA. An NBA combining verity has the atl there are dynasty are like there. This is like their third or fourth championship in a row your big WNBA. Drag me away from the WNBA. Here, the one. For watching that. Okay. Carl Smith tweets, concerning those barking protesters. Aren't those protesters practicing species appropriation. Barton without permission. From dogs. Nine International Corp. brief. whoever. Controls eight. is are their animals news this nagging giving just a bunch of animals Lucia Libertarian maybe we should call him shoe leather speaking of Biden because he's always putting his foot in his mouth. Leather a new nickname for lunch boxes. Diem Xm. tweets Not One person on earth wants to hear about Joe Biden's leg leg hair while eating breakfast. Sure. We could. I. Stand. Out I got I gotTA. Tell the story away with it. I don't know it's so creepy and so weird. and. If if Donald Trump and told the story, you'd still be talking about it today. Know about Roaches Aha I. Know You know about? About what does that even have to do with what you were did you have roaches in the here on your legs? I think so too I. Think it's a racist term for black kids. I'm not I'm not positive, but I'm pretty I so too. Yeah. Can't be all make me urban say you can't be that means that it's very. From keystone pig could someone remind Michelle Baba that it was her husband that exhausted the emergency supply of masks and didn't replace them by the way swank think no Michelle what other countries didn't have to contend with his wildly overzealous requirements to label someone as a positive case. Yeah and get money for it. You know they get more money for all the positive cases in all the deaths that were. Let's face it. Many of them were caused by something else. Many of them. six percent of the people that have died in this country from covid nineteen had only cove in nineteen was all underlying six percent doesn't mean. It doesn't meal with. Ninety four percent would have been fine, right. But it was a contributing factor and many of them wouldn't have died correct. Nathan Krause tweets if Biden is up by so much. HOW COMING NEEDS MICHELLE TO BEG and plead for votes But. She's begging and pleading to what kindergarten class who she talked to sounds like she's speaking kindergarteners and that's Another. Spending six million dollars Texas ads in Texas now. I don't like that. Yeah. Shows they think? We'll see. Gretchen Whitmer is cruella Deville tweets matchup of Michelle, speaking in the writing is lit. Oh Yeah. We have another one right James Woods posted one last night as well. We'll do that later on. But for now it is Of course, we can't play the music because we've been hard for that. So we can't play the elephant walk. Jeffey roaches. Sorry. Definitely. Racist. Is it? Yeah. No. That's weird racist. Sorry Jimmy. Sorry. Rested piece Eddie Van Halen. Southerners yesterday sixty, five years of age. passed. Away at sixty five little example of. Now. I don't think Eddie Eddie van Halen invented tapping on the guitar. But he perfect. Perfect. Absolutely and his son posted yesterday on the instagram that can't believe he was having the type. The Senate was very sad really sad broken I. Love You so much. It was a long battle battle with cancer they discovered had lung cancer. I didn't. Yeah. He'd been struggling with for a long time, but he's been fighting it and then it moved obviously to you know his brain and. They were saying that he was flying or know maybe could have been swimming back to Germany back and forth to Jer-. By. Years for treatment is Germany something that we don't probably have an experimental treatment that he couldn't get here now. Yes. I mean he was a smoker for a bunch of years and forever I mean he smoked while he was playing the guitar but he Did it no, the metal pit? Thunder Right I. Did adult. Held. In his mouth. For fact, I smoked five packs a day every day for my entire life. Right metal pick. Your that's gave me throat cancer. Okay. Yeah. No problem. stabbed. Mellencamp to right John Mellencamp. The same way he's he's had like eighty thousand heart attacks and he says that he still smokes and he goes well, I don't drink. Okay, all right good He doesn't have a metal pick though does he melanie you? I don't know I. Hope he has. The last few interviews I've seen from, he hasn't mentioned the metal pick. Somebody get ahold of MEG. Ryan and tell her to tell John not to use level author still. Even know they were. They, were for a while. I think they're on the outs now. Speaking of dying though we did get news yesterday and this is good or bad depending on your persuasion Keith Olbermann announced yesterday. He is leaving ESPN four four four third time for a third time. This time is good terms. There's times this good terms he went on to announce that he's going to turn his attention to a new. Series. On, Youtube if a tree falls in the forest called worst person in the World Haw, which he's going to discuss the two thousand twenty elections. How agonizing that would be. Just. How good it's going to be. No I don't I don't mean that. How do we get to watch this awesome show? Youtube. Youtube series called the worst person in the world maybe he's talking about themselves. All He left with a little joke. You'd think I was GonNa sit this election analysis did yeah. We didn't know you were a part of it. I do be honest I didn't even realize you were still on the ESPN. I was going to say that I didn't I had. No idea us. And he was relegated to radio broadcasts overnight whatever six in the morning or something I don't know, and there is good news coming though that racial inequality has been salt. All right. We can go home now remember way back in June when. Dryer denounce the eskimo Pie as derogatory and they vowed to change it They've they've changed it this week. In the name of racial equality, they're committed to being part of the solution. Good. Good. So after more than one hundred years. Of eskimo Pie and after months of discussion. Yeah they met at meetings they all didn't know what to do with themselves. They probably had zoom meetings up the Yin Yang the company decided that they're going to name after one of the founders Joseph Easy they're going to call it. Eighties Pie. So my gosh. I. There's no I mean whatever You can see by the cover of the original eskimo Pie. This is like one of their old sales tins that they had cut out at stores. How racist that is enjoy an Eskimo Pie, and then my favorite is this broad worth a lot of money. Now, that would be worth some money to is back in the fifties you could get an eskimo boy rag doll for fifty cents and a box top. So that'd be kind of cool to have actually. Be. Really cool to have but I mean only if you're a racist and. So they went with ease pie. As. After months of after months of meetings discussion consulting firm to come up with wooden surprise me our else would they come up with some rest so good. Thank you. Thank you don't just come up with eighties pie. Yeah. They. Can't. It's too good. Thank you. Doesn't sense. One of the things that I want here in the Mercury Studios. Is I want skeleton of T. Rex I want I will I should start a gofundme me but Glenn just foot the bill. Christie's is selling One of their t rex skeletons, Stan. And they it's up for auction by the middle of the month is sixty, seven, million years old. It's the most complete T. rex ever discovered hundred and eighty eight bones they discovered and they may have discovered more if they believed the kid that founded in eighty seven. He found the any founder. He found some bones and they said Oh. Yeah. That's a triceratops in South Dakota, get out here. There's a bunch of triceratops five years later, a group said wait that's. A T rex that's not a triceratops. So they sent a big crew backout where he founded and they found all hundred eighty eight of the three hundred bones and so you could pick this up. There looking at somewhere between. Six and eight million. Yeah and that's that's only i. mean that's not moving. That's not keeping Oh. That's not throwing look it would look really. I don't know. Fedex, is going to get that for you. Okay. Cool out here in the hallway of studios. I've serious. Butts be great. That would be really caught by that thing in the dark idea, I do look it's only about forty feet high. Thirteen I don't know how how far is it is forty feet high missing a leg though it's like incomplete there's not the full set and his neck bone is is a welded together because they said, he broke his neck when he was living they figured he was still alive after he broke his neck I'll give you forty million I'm not paying full price for that doesn't parts. Between six and eight, four year willing to pay forty four. Okay Very, good to go see your. Feet long thirteen feet high that would look I mean it's a perfect place for it right here. The Mercury soon love yes. NEGOTI legal Hey, before I make a plea. For the Pat Gray Bronco Nagorski award because I believe have a candidate for the Pat Gray Bronco Nagorski word I, want to remind the audience to subscribe between the fat. Then what I'm saying if you what is Your head. My podcast. Okay. Now's the time to pick your Chin Up. Subscribe to two in the fat. Hello, it'll make you happy. It's available. Wherever wherever podcasts are you do make me smile when I was into chewing band. So turn that frown upside. down. Subscription. Right, well, you know I tunes Radio Stitcher spotify where ever you get your podcast you just pick a platform and subscribe. It's easy. Go free for now. What about? Okay. This is my plea for the Pat Gray Bronco Nagorski award. Okay. I wanted to go to Bob Gibson. Who passed away also titus we did at eighty five years old eighty, four headache one of the greatest pitchers ever of all time. All right. So we can talk about his records remember the seventeen, th strikeout performance in game one of the sixty eight world series. Played. His entire career for the cardinals fifty, nine to nineteen, seventy five. said all kinds of all kinds of records in fact he had five twenty win seasons to nineteen win seasons and another eighteen win seasons. Won The MVP and the Cy Young Award in the same year and he won a couple of other cy young awards as a kid. Remember are making a plea I want him to be the bay, the baseball's Bronco Gerski. Kid He had rickets pneumonia, asthma, hay fever, and a heart problem Sh-. By High School he started in baseball, basketball track and field. In Omaha Nebraska the way for Yuki, he then played baseball and basketball at Creighton University before becoming a Harlem Globetrotter for a year. and. Then he went to play Major League Baseball for the St Louis Cardinals. Well he was he was he was part of the reason in nineteen, sixty nine that they lowered the mound. Because, the mound was so high. They figured well, he's pitching to good. Because the mound so they lowered it I did not know that in nineteen sixty four. Worked five times in a fourteen day span forty innings worth four of them. Starts he helped the cardinals win the National League pennant by one game and beat the Yankees four games to three in the world series he pitched twenty seven innings in three series games. One of the starts went eight innings his second with ten innings he won game five. Five to two. He came back two days later and worked a complete game to win the game seven to five embassy. Credible he said before he admitted now this may take away a little bit from his Bronco Gorski award a plea that I have form, but he admitted that after that last game in that series. His quote was I was tired. So. You know you don't know how good he said that he put before that series he put a button on his locker that I'm not prejudiced I hate everybody. He was always he was the guy that was on the mound that nobody. Nobody wants to talk to me was pitching. He would just growl at him. When he was on the mound and one more example four, the Bronco to Gerski Award in sixty seven, he was hit by a line drive from. Roberto Clemente. He faced three more batters and then they realized he had a broken leg. Geez. So he missed fifty two. This is another thing may take away from the award. He missed fifty two days after he broke his leg came back, pitched the pennant clincher and then won three games in the world series besides hitting a home run in game seven. Incredible. So he died eighty four last Friday night in Omaha, Nebraska so rest in peace and I, just making my plea for. Gibson to the Pat Gray Broccoli the honorary back. Award it wouldn't think a baseball player would get it but he I know he's one who deserves it that's. One of my earliest memories is I don't know where we were going. We're listening to the nineteen sixty eight world series the radio search against the Tigers Tiger's ended up winning that series from my heart because I was a big cardinals fan because my dad was and so. We don't know where we're going, but it was on the radio and I was I, don't seven. So my grandfather was told me this series broke down in west openly. Born so. But I just remember thinking every time Bob Gibson pitched the cardinals were GonNa Win Yeah Pretty close. That's pretty close. Right that was pretty close to be a true one of his years. He had I think the lowest era in mean, he's got there's A. Breakdown. or a or something he's amazing. Yeah. It's so funny. You mentioned reading this paragraph had he allowed thirteen more earned runs he'd still owned the best single season era since the deadball era is that a macy's than. The Dead Ball. Era Pretty pretty good. Pitch I know yeah not bad. Yeah now. The. Now that's what I said after he pitched the series, he's he admitted to being tired. After those after those after those games I mean it kind of takes away. From the war did you mention the forty-seven consecutive scoreless innings? Forty over. My Gosh from June. Twenty fifth the allowed just two runs. Wow. The lineup on the cardinals LUBE BROCK ORLANDO? Cepeda. Curt flood the guy who really invented free agency, amazing amazing. Pop, girl I'm raged. As radio network. At great is here on the blaze radio network. Welcome to it. Thanks for being here. Triple Eight, eight hundred. Thirty three, ninety three also at PAT unleashed on twitter. Massachusetts distance. View. There's news. About zero is. Just another way to remind you to keep here shows. were. Keep that in mind today if you would thank you on. Jovian. Bon Jovi and somebody else. Jennifer Bah. And Jennifer von Jenn it's the Bun Jen. Music stylings I didn't even want even I don't care to look it up. Just don't care. But what a horrible horrible song that was but they but it's good reminder. Keep your soul you. Needy. We also need to remember to wear masks I. Don't know what was going on here with Joe Biden, but look at this Monday night he was with a group of people. And not. Wearing. Yes. So that's Ama-. Week where he's not wearing a mask. And then setting next to people. This Sushi. Yeah and they're wearing masks joe mist- mister wear a mask. That's what he tells Mr. I'm going to mandate where. That's right. Where's the? Where's the Monday. Night picture to have that one as well. Here here it is that I mean. Background, the Secret Service but these workers don't have one. He didn't have one. What are you doing at one point at one point there was footage of Jill was with him pulling him back. So that he would. St. Did she. What she pulling him back where their kids nearby that he might approach. Possible. From the eight year olds you know then we have bill. Blasi. Putting a mask on. This is kind of weird. Look at this. What are you doing? Showing US THE MASK Thing I. Think I've ever seen why put on. Correctly. loaded. Okay. Communist. What is? So bizarre. And he goes to work or what? What are we? I guess you look like an idiot seriously he is. He is an idiot an idiot. -solutely, ridiculous and we see we see reporters all the time that are on the street. I watched the new ship show on. CNBC are they going to hand man? Just, the news with Jeff But most of the reporters that he throws to are all wearing masks and they made a big deal out of the one, his White House reporter wasn't wearing a mass was she was reporting was she was Giving him an. And she made a point of saying I'm outside I'm by myself and I have my mask right here in my hand that's going to go on when I'm done with my report and I thought they all need to do that. Why am I watching these reporters with their masks on? It's just dumb I mean I'll even give you. Okay. You'RE GONNA put it on afterward no problem but don't wear during Hawkin about you're doing a news report on a national network cameras. Your cameraman should be shows you leashed, right? So. it's just it's Asinine it's just the. There it's it's just value signalling. Yeah. That's all their virtue virtue cigarettes you. Not Values, they don't even. Have any Virginia but they're trying to. Thin important distinction we need to make their. No it's absolutely virtue signaling. Hypocritical. Symbolic that's all it is. Just this is what you're supposed to be doing, and we're showing you what to do because you need to be sheep and you need. To noon. Clock, we've talked to. I'm not gonNA talk to you. If you're talking to a mask I'm sorry you put down. I want to be able to hear you well now we're getting this fabulous tip from the office of Gavin newsom in California PAT head Sassy. Fontaine found this and sent us in a sense of this. From the Office of the Governor of California if you're going out to eat with a member of your household is weekend. Don't forget to keep your mask on between bites of sorry. Please read that again and tell me you're not being serious. Don't forget to keep your mask on you in between bites it is. All Levels of absurdity we have blown right past. On off on Oh my gosh. They've even got literally dumbest thing. Hopefully Pictorial helpful pictorial gets you through der. TYP. Diner. Tip One that is the number of times you take your mask off what? What maximize, how many times you can take your mask off talking about it plus I thought we didn't. We have a scientific update that if you're sitting at the table. Up Right. That's right. So That's enough you imagine taking your mask off taking a bite putting your mass back on. Well, you just taking it all. On now they're like, Hey, let's see. We can convince these idiots the do now. Hey, I know ever brainstorming sessions. Let's put out a thing from the governor's office. It says put it on between Bites, and then we're going to go around to restaurants around La and San Francisco. Spy On people and see if people actually doing this stupid stuff. We are. We can do anything we want. That's what's happening so What they'll say now is if you don't want to be required to put the mask on inbetween. Bites during dinner they just take the vaccine I mean, what else do you want all day won't stop with the Basque. Already. They've already sent that signal. The vaccine's not going to be enough you're. GonNa. That's how they're gonNA sell it. If you want your life back to normal if you want your convenience back, then get the vaccine and then after everyone gets like gotta be careful let's stick with the mass. I don't know if we'll have that much of a choice I think they're going to mandate it and I think they'll. Just think they're going to game. How Fun you're going to have to because the vaccine is going to be for you know whatever strain Aba. And you know they're going to have to say, well, you get the vaccine and you're still going to have to be a mass because you may be. You may have of. ABC Yeah and it's not one hundred percent anyway. So between the two, you're going to have the best chance of getting the the virus. Correct. You can see the writing on the water absolutely coming. They're not going to settle for take the vaccine if you want or you don't have to listen, you'll be thankful that we're letting these restaurants open Mask on between. Bites. this well total control that's what they're seek total sticking control. I love these idiot Canadian. Officials. Doing Social Szajol. Jr they're actually doing the the John Jobe Song. Yeah, they're giving social distanced. Hugs. Little dumbest thing at this little get together. Okay. That's asinine okay. Over. seriously. By the way once you touch the mask like that, it's contaminated duping within. We're told that don't work anyway. Let's go back to the restaurant then you're taking it on and off. And where are you putting it? We take it off like she had off now a Lotta people just pull it right under their mouth don't but she took it completely off in that in that depiction of what you're supposed to the NFL cracking down you can say goodbye to Andy. Reed's Fe Shield now that iconic thing. Right. On that. Yeah. Him and Frank Reich use the face. So it's I don't know why everybody isn't doing that right right now. Yeah. No of course not and then they're gonNa have cameras are going to be pulling footage from. From inside the facilities you have to keep your. Footage for thirty days. So the NFL can come in and inspect it and make sure you're wearing your mask inside your facility. How crazy is that? No, thank you and it's not the because people like a Jon. GRUDEN. Are Not wearing masks and they're just paying a fine I. don't care I make ten million dollars. Finally. I don't ever ever already I've already got money money deposited over for my. Jar for find and he's got like three, hundred thousand in there whatever he doesn't care. So now they're threatening to take away draft picks or forfeit game or FIT Games now. It's insane. I'm sorry it wasn't the raiders that had an outbreak. Titans. All right. That's right. So then you think okay well, let's Tell you what I don't want to wear the mask during the game so I'll sit up in the in booth. Booth by myself and now you. Know Right. We're making announcers. We saw Al Michaels I hear San, Francisco or Santa Clara County they made them wear masks up that I would've said hubbub. Come arrest me on TV. We're sitting up to thirty county officials have compelled. In the game. And so. I'm Michael's you are I. Don't know who I am I think you're Chris Collins worth, but I want you to enunciate well, al I will. You've got it. I saw. That is the dumbest thing. Obviously Chris is beside himself as well he's like I can't believe we're doing this I mean, this is your C. World man this. Is the place where you you praised Oh, you're excited lives your boy. This is the same same world same people insisting that you wear a mask. Broadcast booth despite the fact that both of you of tested positive who knows how mean negative so many times how many times have they tested these two guys back there what over and over again, eight stories up right away not around anybody they've tested negative. You know they have. They're they're only around each other. There's nobody else in the stink in booth and they have to wear masks they've gone ahead and. Those this in the booth. Robin come on now. Asinine, yeah. We've gone into a world gun mad. and. Don't forget the. Allen Chris are in Seattle this Sunday night. So we're just as bad right back to that exact booth they were just in in San Francisco so good and then Oh then Los Angeles. HAVE TO WEAR BASKIN LA. Though. They didn't have. A Seattle makes some wear the masks. this because this was in Santa Clara. The forty niners play that county said, no you I wear them after the vote everybody's got to wear a mask. Yeah, and they did. Have Fun Yeah Well the other day. The president came home from was this, Monday? Yeah. It was Monday, he came home from Walter Reed Hospital show this and he walked up I gotTA show. How dangerous is people? So they don't repeat service it's. Okay you walked up the stairs got his patio and here's what happened cigarettes dot com. Here we go. Message and you see him here dated off and he's getting ready for his pictures, the flags blank him. Right Caitlyn this is This is. What he produced it for he wants the image to be. I'm strong. That's what he wants. Viruses nothing. tweet today feeling better than I did twenty years ago don't be afraid of Kobe's dominate your life. You should let it dominate. Areas that's. Barely look at this. Roy and a drug that fewer than ten people outside of clinical trials have gotten. A level of Tree Thou So man right the president of the United States. Don't forget that lady but what the president is portraying by taking his mask off when he gets back to the Truman balcony to give this this grand for the White House. Balcony alone said, don't let Corona Virus Control Your Life, but that is very much. Still a president who has corona virus right much. Very. House, Corona virus. Burger diagnosis an errand today his doctor didn't reveal a lot of information as he hasn't for the past two days but he still say that he won't. Monday. I WANNA know. The HIP ALLOWS That's amazing. So he took off his mask, the image he wants you to see of him with a naked face naked faith, and then the other thing he has access to drugs some other people don't. The Guy. Real give the most important job in the nation. Yeah. For years he gets stuff that you can't have. Rather, than rather than asking. Why can't we have it? That's what you should be asking. You're asking why did she could to have at night doled fact is because we've got all these regulations that prevent you from having it. That's why you can't have it. It. Should be widely available to everybody if you want to take it and that's what he's done the law the right to write to try to try the right to try law should enable you to have the same drugs that he has rimmed severe whatever it is they're talking to see his his knees Mary. came out and said a couple of things what a horrible person he is that his family. saw illness as an unforgivable weakness Oh and they believed in the power of positive thinking. Oh no did they really It was horrible I. Know you shouldn't believe in Pozo should not. You know what you should do? You should tell everybody you don't have a chance. If you get this disease, you should be so fearful of this disease you stay home at all times I know know all time gives this interview. It's even worse though Pat Okay because she talked about her dad, this is what the Family Thought of her Dad Oh boy that it was a drunk his alcoholism killed him. was his fault. Dobley. Why would you think that? Somebody was pouring those drinks down his throat weren't they? Who poured those? A. Horrible person coming from a horrible family. that it's so typical of while it's a disease each he just developed the z correct dot your fault actually put the alcohol in his system some I don't know how how he did it by it's weird. ATHANS heaven. Help. US All, right. So the same reporter who is so shocked and appalled the Donald Trump Terry, move his mask how His mask off on his balcony at the white out. That when he's completely alone, there's not a soul around him. How dare you? That's the image. He wants America have here she is at the White House briefing. Wrapping up and watch image she wants America to see. The role and pink gets up and the first thing. She dies Israel over mass. Oh my gosh. By the way she watched by how many people Was By three people within the six foot window. Oh Not yes you do. That is hypocrisy. Name Donald Trump no. Donald Trump. So we need not hate her she's. Eight NAH DONALD TRUMP? Way We hate him. I don't know why he wants people to be positive I. Don't know why he doesn't want to be afraid we need to be afraid that we need to be paralyzed by that fear. We need to believe that we're all going to die. No matter how old you are no matter whether you have co co morbidity. You need to be deathly afraid listen we want America to get back to back to normal. When everyone can be safe while, but that's not gonNA happen. because. This disease is with US forever. All. Right. Let me take a minute. Like it's It's not it's our life, Andrew. It's the rest of our life Yep. Let me take a minute. Tell you about score master. You know the average American has ninety seven points they could add to their credit score. But how how do you do that? Well, score master score masters, the new credit science that super boosts your credit score you know there are some credit score helping agencies that. They can boost your score like seven points in a year and a half. Incredible. Yeah. That doesn't help. It's really weak. Don't spend all that extra credit in one place. Right. Right. The average score master user raises their Credit Score Sixty one points at twenty days or less. So sixty one points that will help your say your credit scores in the high five hundreds to mid six hundreds. When you buy a car, well, that will save you thousands of dollars. If you advert just raise your average score or your scored, the average sixty one points our listeners get. Or. If you're applying for a home loan, think of that, how much you could save with that if you raise your score, Jesse, averaged sixty one points our listeners get. That's about one hundred, thousand dollars over the life of your home loan. Score master puts you in control of your finances, not the banks you enroll in just minutes, and they'll show you how many plus points they can add to your credit score visit score master, dot, com slash pat score master dot com slash pat. Pat Gray. unleashed. Radio. Network. At grade is here on the. Radio Network So I was just wondering. Who wrote? A tremendous Bon Jovi song and I said, well, Jon Bon Jovi did who wrote it no way that. Good. Job of written it. I'm like nowadays. He's ingenious. This guy but he did he did they did write the songs. He wrote the song he was inspired after his wife had posted a picture of him washing dishes at his. His restaurant. To Josie. At the restaurant to pay if you can, if you can have a shelter, so Jon Bon Jovi is done they're doing the. You're right. You're right. Course. So he wrote the song and he was inspired by that then he said. You know and he's you know I'm so inspired that it's been fourteen years since Jennifer nettles. Collaborate. Day How long's it been since Jon Bon Jovi and Jennifer nettles collaborated rate song. Better what better time to reconnect with someone than during global pandemic thank you. So you know it's a little inside the back story. Okay Watching do you can from job? You can thank goodness he jennifer got together right and I. A. Mass shooting. Stroke listen to that. There's no substitute for. Wait a minute till we find the vaccination. There's no substitute for low. So when the vaccine gets zero, yeah, will substitute then love that's a good substitute. Around. Anymore once back. And it'll be a relief. Yeah. Thank. You. was voiced though. Bad Bon Jovi. I don't know what he's trying to do there. That's really bad. Strategy user friendly. Bad so bad is so awful. All right. We got some tweets here Scotty Sweatman tweets. It's as if Bon Jovi didn't even write this song. They just read a public service announcement put it to music. moral. A redeem. I I prefer Pats scatting two hundred, thirty, five percent over the Bon Jovi where your mask triple. You're getting it. spunky. Trucker. You can't call it a pandemic when the most vulnerable people who get infected having. Four point, six percent of a survival Pumpkin Sweetie Putin. latter-day Film Guy Tweets remember when the backyard yoga ladies were the dumbest thing on the. Internet at times. Speaking of the ninety four percents I really got to be less than that. Now Right? Because if you believe what the WHO said Yeah then with the one bad Roger Daltrey, it was ten percent of the. Actually. Point. Zero zero one, three percent. That's amazing it's amazing. All right. Well, we've got more coming up Because Returns. Video. Just thinking I was thinking man it's been too long since Jon Bon Jovi Jennifer nettles. Fordad together, for years. It's been fourteen years I knew it was too long A. But that's way to log am I right who's with me on that because the last song that they did together fourteen years ago was. Really. is like a river hit it was. Yes. It was like a number. In fact I think it was a number one hit. On the country chart and it was called. It was you know that? That song. Who says you can't go home? That's what it was. He was just going to wait to see if you knew and sure enough Internet. Story Open. Glad that Internet. They're back together and sound in new album. A. Really good. Really really good. Got Some tweets here Sir Jefferson spoons tweets. The California diner tip a proves they are sitting around thinking of new ways to make people look like compliant moral exactly. That's exactly what they're doing. Being mocked people yeah. John Secrecy no plates or silverware needed. We put your meal in a feed bag so we could all be safe and compliant you say that. That's a bad thing. dishwashers will rejoice over that. So it's a good thing Fanta. Feed bag. Why not? Eighty what's face? We now know the one thing in trump's life that isn't the best. His niece isn't. Oh Yeah I'm not sure how in his life is Jesus now is I think she's been a problem for a while Yes yes. Yeah. Yeah. Let's see. got this from Julian Azerbaijan has released a military music video featuring their soldiers, playing guitars in front of ABC's and other military hardware. You think this is better than Jon Bon Jovi that's what we need to decide here. So far it is. Not I don't know what he's saying. He's talking to your social distance. Be Intense mentioned. Whatever say man, it's important. READY TO ROCK? Out. It's actually pretty good. We already are tell me that's not better than the Bon Jovi Song. Absolutely. Is Wait Still Listen She's Jennifer Kendal. I really need to know what they're saying. The MIX is not great. Need a better mixer and then. Get this thing with her hand. If he keeps doing I don't I don't know what that is. Here's the hook here comes up baby. Kill it kill the. Good. Stuff commission keeps. Superpowers donor hand the. Maybe she thought there is going to be a special effect. Out of money video couldn't do it. Yeah. We don't have a cash. Of. Bunny wrap it up going to do the laser coming out of her hand. At the leaser, I can't do it. They don't have the cash. Fine. All right triple eight, nine, hundred, thirty, three, ninety, three, Stanford professor I think this is the same one who's been trying to add some legitimacy in some sanity to the discussion about what's going on with with freedoms and how we should handle the whole covid situation. He is now saying that to effectively. To effectively deal with. Covid nineteen and completely rid it from our society. In order to do that, we would have to destroy society itself. Now, that might be a price that's too high the to eliminate the disease. That's what he's saying anyway I. J A bad Ikaria. Recently made that grim pronouncement during a virtual roundtable with Florida governor. Rhonda. Santa's several other public health experts. He said over the last few months he has been an outspoken critic of many of the ongoing Covid, nineteen lockdowns and mitigation measures speculating on the possibility of getting two zero Cova. A scenario he said may not even be technically feasible. The cost would be so high. It's just not worth it. He said, we know that we're going to have to destroy our society in order to get it. We'll have to get rid of all. Our freedoms will have to make sure that very few people interact with each other. That's easy. Right keep everybody away from everybody else including families and just put everybody in isolation what if you're at a funeral or something and your? Life Long spouse is being laid to rest and the kids that you shared with him to come over and console you comfort you. Now you gotTA. Stop that you got to put a stop to that mean you can't do that. No exception for even you know no exceptions I look at. Enough to conduct ourselves today's. Life of I'm sorry his arm under her so does the other. Brother on a very warm. Welcome. Fifty number. He's immune. These chastise. The funeral director is now I would say, no to that. Pablo yeah no yeah. A stick? This cheer leg up Yeah we've explored that. Floor that. With fraction. I. Didn't matter what orifice shares get. Any picked it up like he was going be no. But then instead he just complied. Do, resistance is futile you. We will all be assimilated by covid nineteen by a funeral director though that's really better at come armed help. This would you be? The service in order to do it. I absolutely would go out of my mind. Would you would you square up on him Jeffey if? Yes if he won't be some serious square up going on. Absolutely oh yeah absolutely. But. Instead, we're all compliant. I, don't WanNa make a scene Sino. It's a funeral. Funeral Yeah I'm doing quiet about them and sit down over here away from my mom take your boozy behind back over there. Director do you know what this chair tastes like? To Gillette to find out, yeah we're about to have a service for you real soon. Youth. But since you're the funeral, get an employee discount on. Good. I. Wonder if they do bet they do. So that works if you're a funeral director and give us a call, eight, nine, hundred, thirty, three, ninety, three did you and you're not there to verify you're gone but is there something in your contract? You as you get the Employee Discount for sure. is about fifty percent I don't know I don't know maybe we'll hear. Dr Fauci action figures are now available. Yeah and they're available with and without a facemask, they're only twenty dollars they're cheap. Twice, the price and that would be a third twenty. To pay for SAFE OUCHI OF DC probably made in a sweatshop factory down the street from the medical laboratory that felt she funded for us. Yeah. So yeah but it does have a removable mask. Why would you remove the mess? That's? Right. If you'RE GONNA HAVE A. Really Cool. That is really cool. Yeah. I, mean it would be fun to just stick their next. It'd be fun. No No. No that's gross. Felt. People would love it. I think they'd love our folks I love it for five minutes until I sold it on Ebay. Also. Little reminder before Democrats decided to destroy our society remember this back in I don't know February march ish was early on but it wasn't January, they were all telling us. Don't even worry about this stuff. This video posted on April first and these are okay. Democrats are giving trump a hard time for how he's handled everything he's been terrible. Let's see how they handled it then show. To New Yorkers or corona virus is low and our city preparedness is high. The should not stop you from going about your life should not stop you from going to Chinatown and going out to eat I'm going to do that today myself come to Chinatown. Here we are. Again. Careful say. Come. Join us. There is no concern at time for. Earth. Communist. Annotation is ready for Mardi gras twenty twenty, the facts, Mardi Gras, assuring I want New Yorkers to go about. There's really no need to panic and to avoid activities we always do as New Yorkers we are hardy people. Do not need to panic. What I would suggest however is that Americans take this as a up call for seasonal flu. There's very little threat here this disease even if it were to get, it basically acts like a common cold. Telling New York basically go about your lives, take the subway. So out, enjoy life and certainly not to miss the parade next Sunday. Right Close down the borders. No when using the more honest about the Ya'll with the American people about the fact that we can't keep people coming here from China and transmission is not that easy I think there's been a misperception. That rotavirus hangs in the air waiting to catch you know. First person contact we also know that if it were likely to be transmitted, casually would be seeing a lot. Like Seven million right or so. Two hundred thousand dead that kind of thing you know if it was easy to transmit. Is. Hangs in the air yeah. That's what they've said how soon we forget how dare they yeah. Then tell trump. That he didn't handle this so poorly well, and then he did nothing and that's exactly what happened long about the time. The last of those clips buying somebody in the Democratic Party national office was like Whoa it's an election year. We can turn this trump says trump's fault and that's exactly what they've done. It's exactly what they've done. That is despicable anti Pelosi said come to. Join us. This is great. Come on in the water's fine. This is there's nothing to worry about here. Wow why don't people play this for her Why don't they throw this interface? Where's Republican Party? You Know I. Don't play defense or going on offense maybe for changes people were saying was based on what president trump was saying, which was ally they learn that what president trump was saying was ally, and now they had to turn it around see. All, thanks for clarifying that. I'll. Take the. League two seven. Three three more you got your thirty minute. Thank you. Wow. Just something. Of First of all. I JUST WANNA go on record. Please Coca Cola zero mini cans. Oh no are now. We're wondering shortage here at DFW of. Coca Cola zero and. I can't find Sam's Club Been Out Of the of the cases, and so I do the trickle down was coming. So you know you go the farther away you go from. So Kroger's had some. Of the twenty packs and some twelve packs now they're God. All it was left was the biddies. BINNY's. Into the other day the other day I bought ten backup mid East bottom all I bought my ordered the. Hoarded the eight two liter bottles that were allowed. To one liter bottles that were. Julie. I walked by the coolers up front to see if there were any of the sixty, two, twenty, four ounce bottles. Weren't no I would've cleaned those. Down here for the last four or five weeks there's been some bottles of Daniel bringing I thought a you because I knew you were struggling with your caffeine his so I said Daniel yes not coca cola zero. Okay. So you're gonNA have the SPRITE. There's it had to be coke Dr Pepper good enough for you. Flat Coke. Zero. Oh see that's just coming out for you. Thanks after pepper spray where are you looking out for me worries hopefully. When you mentioned this this morning thanks I thought hey now we have a purpose for something that's been sitting down here in the common area for the last month and a half I mean shirl take home, and this is probably flat. Vaulted Open Yeah. So flat mean. Best for you Jiffy. Nice we love you Dr Peppers so much wiser running coke zero. Guy That I think the I think the zero sugar comes from China. So okay. So That's a serious issue I mean that's the Third World of vacation of America happening right? Well River a couple of bucks maybe even longer than that. But a few months ago they talked about possible shortage because of the cans. You know they had a tin cans shortage really sure. He's on the cans. Yeah. Because none of the states that recycle at the states do weren't recycling normally do not tin though there Lumina they whatever whatever it out of you. Got It. Is a pretty new. DRIK. You WanNA drink. Kansas. You know back in the day. When my grandfather. Drank bridges like that. was a little tougher rush. Yeah because it was made out of. Ahead then the aluminum came around and it wasn't so hard. Glass bottle these. Coca Cola. Minis. Tip Yeah. Okay. All right. Yeah they. They really do stronger. Remember those machines that had the glass bottles of and stuff. I miss. CNN. Anyway there was shortage and all those states like Michigan Michigan worth was they didn't want anybody to recycle they make you pay a deposit. So no more dry were losing money New York to Michigan Recycle. or or whatever on Were busy. There's a struggle for that I. don't know I. Really Don't know any other reason than that I, it was toilet paper. Then it was clorox wipes. Yeah, and now. This no longer America will not stay up is no longer at the United States of America. These stores. There's coke zero. Yeah. What's going to happen? There's going to be. Really for you to walk out of the store. Where your mask. Yeah it's a problem for you because you're not getting zero is going to be a problem. Just, sent fear into the hearts of every. In. This area. Good. Jeffey won't be. Good co-financing coke zero. Bottles of Coke Zero, we'll be singing a different tune. I love the story covid nineteen nasal Swab Test God have you had these yet I just had over the weekend. Oh. Go the gym so far back. and. Then they switch it around. Kind of twist it and turn it off. Out of there. I actually didn't gag. It wasn't wasn't as bad as I thought it was be was gonNA invest. It wasn't a machine like we've. I. Would not do a machine. Thank you. I want to this looking at that's the the swab is the fifteen minute one. Yeah. Yeah Okay you had a human. My nose. Yes and then twenty, not exactly fifteen minutes probably twenty five. Still. Came back negative. So. Negative but this covid nineteen test went a little wrong. It punctured a woman's brain lining. causing. Fluid to leak from her nose and putting her at risk of life threatening infection. She had other stuff. It was chat others. With her she's in her forties she had an undiagnosed condition and the tests she received may have been carried out improperly may have been a sequence of improbable events that means the risk from nasal tests remains very low. May Have she had some. Brain thing this issue. Jabbed clear back to her brain helped me. You should not be jamming this thing. INDIANA. What's worse spiders or sticking something up your nose this is. It's yeah. It's not as bad as that I'm. GonNa spiders. Spider of your. Can't can't even in case does show healthcare professionals they take care to follow testing protocols closely. Thank yeah. So you're saying. Don't doors the brain don't just. Newer knows and so it goes on to our brain that might not be that might not be a good idea. I'm just saying, but if you have a break thing but. You have some some. If you have a brave. Does. It. Say something. Hey, hey I have a brain things. They should know. So that she test positive I wanNA know. See, the woman had gone for a nasal just to have it was clearly. Brain it was brain stuff coming out of hernia surgery afterwards noticed clear fluid coming out of this. Highlight that why she developed a headache vomiting next stiffness and aversion to light and was transferred. To spill. But good news, you don't have the covid most testing protocols. Call for clinicians to follow the path. Lore of the nose which lies above the roof of the mouth rather than pointing the swallowing up. Right. Okay Although this was likely a very rare occurrence. It is a reminder of the need for high-quality training given that hundreds of millions more tests will be performed. So don't grab somebody off the street give them minimum wage and say, Hey, do some covert tests over here why again? Oh, that's right because you could jams it into somebody's brain. Trained Professional. Tell me a brain. That's. Dumpling the brain piercing. downplays everything. Stop. People. Have break. Right? Thing. Yeah. So there is a lightning. Able to relate. Also. An issue with what was the? Professional had she had quote a thing I read the story a week or so ago chewing the fat and I was disappointed because. I expected that it was so mad clinician out there ramming things in people's noses but no, it wasn't. It was the thing issues. Yeah. It was had a brain thing finger issue. Wow. Well, you know. Something explains all of this. And then we put up with Jeffey every every single time he's on since the start of the coronavirus. Pandemic scientists have struggled to figure out why some people are able to shake off the viruses milder non-existent symptoms while others have their symptoms ravaged or even die from it. Now a new study suggests that the reason may lie in our jeans. Researchers in Germany published study this week in nature that links a strand of DNA, which is found on the third chromosome and is a relic from the neanderthal ancestors. Severe. Cases of Covid NATO you gotTa be kiss is why you cannot get covid nineteen i. hope that's true. Quite clearly. You got the neander- neanderthals. They apparently, they had the end results without doing business. With regular people. The NFL gene is still you gotta be careful because if you get it, it's GonNa be severe people with this gene neanderthal gene. The are three times more likely to need artificial ventilation if they're infected by the corona virus. Wow. Around two percent of people of Asian and European sent have. Ancestors. studies indicate that modern humans interbred with the. Man. Denisovans. Those. Style were everywhere who? Out maybe another? Tens of thousands of years ago their reports. CNN. Okay. Well, that's a good. That's a good story. Place to leave out of the cave with the NFL's again, get back over here. Seriously we've learned a lot today. We've learned a lot if you have a brain thing. Nation when you're getting a task for Kovic that's only right. Are Right according to a doctor Jeffey. GotTa tell them look. I've got a brain agreeing to be really careful. Please when you jammed that into my nose, don't go all the way to my brain what what you're what you're well. I. Mean Some people like have a lot of room up there and there's no risk that's shoving to revenue right? All right. Well, enjoy the debate tonight. On. The blaze on the blame all the results tomorrow. Pat Gray only. On the blaze radio network.

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Next Stop Everywhere: The Doctor Who Podcast

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Next Stop Everywhere 142: The Brain of Morbius

"<music> talked xtop everywhere <music> mm-hmm <music>. Hello everyone welcome back to next up everywhere. The doctor who podcast I'm Charles Skaggs your host here in the Tartus ready toxin more doctor who this time classic doctor who with returning special companion welcome back John Tackes welcome back to stop everywhere. Thanks a lot Charles thanks again. Now is great great to have you back <hes> for those who foolishly aren't aware of this already John uh-huh previously joined us <hes> to talk the seeds of Doom <hes> classic. Tom Baker story here not too long ago a couple months ago and he's back this time to talk the previous episode the brain of more BS season thirteen thing for me. Yeah I just I noticed the trend. Why was kind of <hes> scheduled me? Episodes like <hes> isn't brain a Morbus the previous one with what we just talked October with John it is so that's all right okay topic. I like to do a William Heart Great. Yeah that'd be great so yeah we definitely will have you back because <hes> good yeah. It's it's not very often I get to talk with William Hartnell era so <hes> definitely all for that <hes> so yeah here at one episode one forty two. We're GONNA talk the brain Morpheus <hes> written by Robin Bland and yes that is a suited NAM <hes> essentially it was terrance dicks written by Robert Holmes and we'll get into that a little bit <hes> a lot of history without there's a lot of history with that I have some Trivia and I think you probably have some probably the same notes <hes> and and <hes> this was the fifth cereal of season thirteen the aired in nineteen seventy six <hes> starring. Tom Baker is the fourth doctor of course and Elizabeth's Laden as everybody's favorite companion Sarah Jane Smith and it's a definitely considered to be one of the classics of the modern era or excuse me the classic era and <hes> it's a very odd episode though and I came to talk about this with you so so before we get into that though John <hes> what he'd been up a two past couple months oh past couple months just got thanks to the exposure. The first time we've got more likes on the Ohio type forty facebook page excellent always does great. I not a whole lot of social media Mayenne but I do keep up with the with the facebook page a lot <hes> and I was pleasantly surprised to hear on the the episode Dolac that you had a <hes> a new fan right in from North Canton right next door to mass over here so exactly right by you know obviously the up there at the pro football hall of fame era area exactly and I used to live up in Medina so what's this you that's pretty close most of my my neck of the woods back in the day so that she can hit up the Ohio type forty and give you another like all the more <hes> Ohio representation the better as far as I'm concerned Buckeye always Buckeye state eight <hes> showing up so that's I'm always got. We've got four different <hes> four different large doctor who groups in Ohio the doctor WHO Society Cleveland and you've got the Ohio type forty of course doctor who Columbus and the Friends of the time Lord Down in Cincinnati. That's awesome so <hes> always glad to like I said always help support Ohio type forty so very very cool and <hes> yeah <hes> so while we were back on the subject of of <hes> Robin Bland <hes> months. We'll talk about this right off the bat here a little Trivia section as I'm guessing you probably aware <hes> their original strip. The script was written by terrance dicks using thing some ideas from <hes> his script of the doctor who stage play doctor who in the Daleks in the seven keys to doomsday of really long bridal and apparently that got reworked so <hes> <hes>. Do you have any notes of your own. I know what I've got but I'm Kinda curious about what you've got on this yeah the the initial idea that terrance dicks came up with was that a Moebius was at war with the time Lords and this was towards the end of it he was on his last regeneration and he crash lands on the planet Karn now he has a little robot servant with them that never made it to the show that was one of the rights and the the the only thing that could was that survived was his brain. His body was destroyed so the lower robot goes through Karn and takes bits and pieces author dead bodies and that's what ended up becoming more business body was all the pieces that he he came up with well when he when Dick submitted that script he went on vacation came back and Hinchcliffe said you know what we can't do the robot its way to over budget. We're going to switch to a mad scientists and eager type servant haven't and showrunner <hes> Philip Hinchcliffe by the way right so <hes> yeah after that <hes> he read the script. He said you know what I don't like it. I don't want my name on it. He said just put some who's could've the writer he said we'll put some bland. Pseudonym turned into Robin Land after all the Robert Holmes Rewrites Right which yeah it's IT'S A. It's a fun story yeah. It's it's interesting that <hes> yeah they they tried to contact terrance dicks for this but supposedly and <hes> for some reason that I don't think <hes> has come out at least not to my knowledge that <hes> we don't know why they couldn't get a hold all of him. What was exactly I we know he's traveling but maybe he was just like between destinations or what have you so maybe they just couldn't give get an actual? I mean because obviously this is way before cell phones. No there's no <hes> probably just maybe just didn't have any direct line of communication at the time whenever well he's traveling right and these are some huge differences to his original script. Yes they are. They're major rewrites and yeah apparently he was seriously Ashley pissed off about this. <hes> you know like he calls up <hes> Robert Holmes just lays him out and <hes> yeah obviously that's what leads to the pseudonym and <hes> also have here that <hes> apparently that robot character under was <hes> Yeah we essentially Solan Dr Solan was <hes> substituted for the robot right in this one and then and then obviously yeah we talked about that <hes> they reworked it so that <hes> you know we just had a different motivation of the mad scientists though so we got that all right <hes> but yeah very intriguing little trivia tidbit and <hes> a little behind the scenes drama obviously and if you notice there's there's as that's happened a few times on doctor who where they just they have these pseudonyms and for one reason or another usually writes <hes> they ended up coming up with these you know the the original rider has a problem with it and they have to come up with some pseudonym because they just don't want their name associated with it for whatever reason right it's just feel it's not here working right exactly in as a writer I respect that so I personally get it. Okay so guess cast our weather Trivia before we had into our guest cast. I should say no I can add to the <hes> as as we go on okay great all right <hes> so guess casts of course we have the Great Philip Matic as Mahendra Solan and he's had a lot of association with various areas of doctor who I've got here that year you he was <hes> Illich in the Croutons of Patrick Troughton story <hes> the warlord he got a really big role as the warlord in the war games patrons final story <HES> so that was a big deal and a lot of people probably remember him from that Fenner in the power of crawl the notorious episode from the key to time season and he also played Broccoli in the Peter Cushing Movie daleks invasion of Earth Twenty one fifty A._D.. So it's one of the few actors that's actually acted on the doctor who TV series and in the doctor who movies the Peter cushing movies <hes> the also played a character name Rag Kaban in the six Dr Her big finish audio adventure return of the croutons since many interesting that he was associated with another Proton Story and he <hes> he's notably for playing Victor Shafer on the in the Sylvester McCoy era <hes> <hes> seven Dr Big Fish audio master which is a personal favourite of mine. I really liked that is a good one yeah and <hes> <hes> so the thought that's Kinda interesting in depth so yeah one of <hes> one of our great <hes> <hes> recurring actors on classic Doctor Who and also it's nice that he was able to do something for the for big finish in the modern era which is great yeah. He did quite a bit quite a bit before we lost in two thousand twelve. It was definitely a loss fig. Fan would have been nice if we had got him. At least you know a small role in the modern era even even if cameo just to say thank you to the fans exactly but <hes> you know sadly that wasn't and to be <hes> but <hes> we also have Michael Spice as the voice of more bs and you may remember. We've talked about this not too long ago. He played the character Magnus correal in the talents talents a wing chi-shang the controversial Tom Baker era story and so I thought that was interesting. <hes> we had Cynthia Grenville as Merrin and Gilly Brown as oheka which I always kinda wonder is she an ancestor of Oh Hilo from the modern era. I tried to look that up. I just wanted to make I don't I don't think there's a direct action but it would be kind of different spellings exactly exactly so just oh yeah obviously similar names and <hes> yeah just probably just very coincidental but <hes> we it would be kind of cool. She was ancestor somehow. I'm not sure how they could do it considering all the sisterhood or women right but you know hey you've got that <hes> Elixir of life and you know life finds a way if you remember Jurassic Park so <hes> all right anything else about the guests cast before we move on into our main topics all well the someone's choices that they made before Philip Matic included Peter Cushing and Vincent Price. Oh I wasn't aware of that yeah that's it. They mentioned that on the on the D._V._D.. Extra era. If you watch that it's called getting ahead awesome awesome behind the scenes <hes> they mentioned that and I was just like I wonder how it would have been if either of those two actors would have had that role apart from filled matic but vincent price is obviously a I think everybody in their brother would love to see INVINCI- price on doctor who oh yeah at least once I mean I think it was under consideration for one of the doctors at some point if I'm not mistaken I think so I wanna say I want to say yeah. Tom Bake the fourth doctor. If numbs negative I could be wrong though but <hes> but yeah obviously he would have been fantastic <hes> especially if he was a villain and someone especially like Solan <hes> he would have been fantastic for that <hes>. Obviously you know the mad scientist. It's that's abby right up his alley. <hes> very classic war in the way and that's and that's one of the great things about the story is like if you're like a fan of <hes> of classic Sikora. Maybe maybe more like a like <hes>. Let's say like maybe a hammer horror typesetting <hes> <hes> just you know like or maybe even just a this the story of in particular obviously heavily influenced fluent by Frankenstein the Mayor Shirley Classic and <hes> obviously the movies <hes> and it <hes> it it. Just you know I it does have this kind of classic horror feel the production. Is it the way this is shot in lit it just it it it Kinda has that old classic universal movie type Vibe to it that those season thirteen in a nutshell shell basically the whole gothic got the core type <hes> type feel and a very newbury when he was tasked on designing everything for the for the episode very let's told him to look at some of the work of Antonio Gowdy and if you look up some of his work online there's a lot of lot of similarities so it does have that probably textbook probably heavily inspired by the movies of that of that genre and and it shows it pays off. That's probably one of the reasons why the stories so finally remembered by classic era fans all right <hes>. Let's go into may topics topic number one of course the fourth doctrine Sarah Jane and the fourth Dr Essentially Kinda gets <hes> brought by the time lords they kind of intentionally divert him to the planet Karn which he does not like at all. No we well. He's never ever a fun never fond of being manipulated by the time lords and it's one of the few times the the force doctor is in <hes> intentionally maneuvered like this and Sarah obviously she has her big big story line as <hes> because she ends up getting blinded half about <hes> an episode in for a couple of episodes and she kinda stumbles around and that's kind of like <hes> her little <hes> character character showcase so I want to get your thoughts on the fourth doctor and <hes> obviously Elizabeth's Laden is as Sarah Jane in this episode in the story we had when the when they arrive in the first thing he does start going off about the you took control charges or whatever and at this hour WanNa go Sarah could care less you wants to investigate the doctors almost like he has this kind of little tantrum about it <hes> and that goes on for awhile until till she becomes like she gets put into danger right. She screams she finds this <hes> headless body yeah and then there's like Oh yeah maybe now you're interested right exactly exactly now like the fact that they used one of the <hes> the beauty because that was four years before this story right. It's like okay. They dusted off one of the old old props but our costumes rather but <hes> yeah he just. He seemed like he had his own agenda that he was. I'm not going to do anything. I'm just going to sit here and you know what if they wanted to. They want to use me. They can just sit and wait for me. Yeah this is another a great example of doctors. Just sheer contempt left for the authority of the time lords his his rebellious nature coming through <hes> just hating to be manipulated especially after <hes> everything they did putting them in like forcing a regeneration ratio on him putting them into exile and now that he no he's off wandering the universe again <hes> they do this. You know they still are messing with his life Sarah. I love Seren this episode because she's saying she's quirky she is she's probably she's making sound effects at the doctor. Just like I'm going to shoot and Raspberries Adam. I'm going to do this and and if you WANNA come find me go ahead and issues really fun and she didn't she did a nice job wouldn't when she was blinded it will it was believable and I don't know if I don't know if like during rehearsals if she actually closed her eyes or anything that's what the rumors but <hes> yes. She didn't really Nice job when she yes she gets blinded by the bright of the beam off of Marins ring and <hes> in she's Solan initially tells her that are you know is telling her that <hes> well the conditions permanent and so or at least tells the doctor this and unaware to both of them obviously he's lying and recite your site does eventually return on its own but the doctor of course <hes> is desperate to try to find a cure and he's willing to try to US <hes> go to the sisterhood and get their elixir of life so so <hes> what did you you think of of the doctors <hes> desire for this wanting to help Sarah just that that <hes> he didn't seem very at all interested in Elixir until Sarah's blindness that was that was just him looking out for one of what is runs right and it just keeps all right and <hes> I have to wonder why especially when it wasn't like <hes> too much earlier in the episode that <hes> and there's this great scene I love that's between with with Tom. Baker in Libya Slayton here where <hes> Solan is pouring them a drink and the doctor goes ahead and drinks it Sarah takes maybe a sip and then like when they're when she gets an opportune moment she tosses the rest off to the side right she just got dumped it right next door so essentially Sarah's actually being more savvy and aware and smart smarter smarter than the doctor really in this at that moment I thought of I was you know I was Kinda. Wondering well okay is this is it just the doctor being arrogant that he's counting on his time Lord physionomy to <hes> to not you know like he he couldn't be poisoned or just he was just being careless in your also kind of enamored that <hes> and he he's he's meeting one of these top surgeons <hes> he he obviously knew the title of the Book Eddie published so I'm sure US trusting at that point in time okay so you it wasn't just being naturally says so you think maybe just that Sarah's natural suspicious nature as a reporter probably helped her out in that scenario probably. Yeah I think I think so to strangers giving you green drinks right exactly so yeah I got to give Sarah points on that one. <hes> Dr No points sorry but <hes> <hes> the the doctor <hes> is essentially became after being drugged <hes> he learns that Solan is looking to essentially decapitate him and uses this is head as ultimately as we find out later as a as a replacement head on this kind of patchwork creature and <hes> obviously the doctors very attached to his head understandably so and and there's a lot of good head gags as a result of this and <hes> then the doctor of course later gets <hes> brought before the sisterhood of Karn and and so what did you think of of the fourth doctor and <hes> we'll talk about the sisterhood obviously a little later but what did you think about <hes> the way the fourth Dr Interacted with the sisterhood I he seemed like he was kind of Leery of them. I obviously he told them that. The the the time lords in the sisterhood have worked together there. He wasn't there to try to steal the Elixir. They've used it in the past to help to regenerate a body. If there is a problem during regeneration but <hes> yeah he's just <hes> he had no problem going in but he just seemed to seem to be very cautious when he was there. I think maybe he just realized that there was bad blood blood between the sisterhood and the time Lords so maybe he just was probably trying to play it delicately with them that <hes> you know he just he figured there would be this animosity toward him right and since he's basically a part of the time lords right now that'd be careful what he does right and even though that even though he saying look I don't work for the time Lords even though they think I do and <hes> but <hes> but the sisterhood doesn't obviously seem mm to buy that very often that whole attitude very standoffish yeah. They're very distrustful and we'll talk about that more obviously <hes> let's see here <hes> I had <hes>. Let's see notes that was it here. <hes> the blanking on the what I was GonNa talk about here. Forgive ME UH-HUH I'm looking through my notes here trying to figure out where he left up <hes> so the doctor <hes> one of the other scenes that I like what the doctor here was that <hes> where he's coming up <hes> essentially with a cyanide cyanide gas and you know he just he gets locked in this lab and <hes> he's cobbling together all these various chemicals and he comes up with this <hes> what do you call cyanogen and and he's using this and <hes> he pipes it through event and there was a great scene. I thought that where <hes> Sarah's looking at the event going like you're not gonNa make me climb up that van are you right which I thought was rather funny. I and he's like no no no no and <hes> he kills Solan with the cyanide cyanogen gas and that was that was rough at that time because at the doctor doesn't kill people right and unless the only other time I hidden remember uptown my head is to doctors right <hes> but yeah that <hes> that that race a few eyebrows you know but he did I mean he does throughout the course of the episode. Try to essentially bring soul and around <hes> Um but Sullen is just way too out there and <hes> so maybe the doctor. I don't know just realize that <hes> this was the only movie had you think it was just that more of like he felt like it was put into a corner in that was those only way <hes> to <hes> to take care of Sullivan. The funny thing is and this is one of the I it's. It's a fun story but it's not a perfect story right obviously if if it kills Sahlin right out if Maurice doesn't make it exactly yes like well yeah if everybody's dead and eventually gonNA come downstairs looking for popsicle and let the only thing yeah I can think of is that maybe they were thinking that he was thinking that the Sisterhood could find him eventually and teleport him out right right. That's the only thing I think of but but I did find. It was interesting that like Oh hey the doctor just killed Sullen what's up with that <hes> but <hes> and then of course we had the doctor engaging in that <hes> mind-bending contests with more yes. That's controversial. Dad is obviously very controversial because because we kinda see <hes> various incarnations the doctor or at least that's what we were. It's presented that way. We're led to believe that led to believe that now so my question to you is do you think those are previous incarnations of the doctor or something else I their previous incarnations of Morbus and I think if I'm not mistaken I think it's become canonized that it that's what it was. I think so I wasn't wasn't aware of that but if you if you look closely when you get to the face of the help Philippines cliff right sure looks a lot like Roger Daltrey yeah because some of the <hes> like <hes> I think some the crew were featured in those faces if I'm not mistaken and they on trouble for that right because they're not actors right so we actually had to pay I think it was like a donation to <hes> to the actors guild yeah so there's obviously the union <hes> or the the guild essentially and <hes> <hes> but yeah I thought I thought that was interesting that the some of these now I kinda agree with you I. I don't think they're they're either more reasses <hes> previous incarnations kinda mixed in with doctors early steel presented that way life <hes> because in that kind of it's making it more of a back and forth between more than the doctor as far as the way you know the battle was going <hes>. Also I kind of wonder if that's just the doctors kind and of maybe people that the doctor has encountered some kind of wondering if it like I mean yeah it seems I you know the more likely explanation is yeah previous incarnations of of more bs but I always kind of wondered well. Maybe it's just that <hes> you know while they're there people that the doctor has encountered throughout his travels to that point and that maybe he just can't they kind of flash into his mind and we see them at that particular moment in in turn sticks original script Moebius was on his last regeneration so that could have been previous previous incarnation. I agree the I think I think preoccupation incarnations of Moebius says the most likely explanation and that's certainly the way to get around it but <hes> but yeah they had to be confusing back in nineteen seventy six now sure because as far as the the audience new well hey there's only four doctors. We've only seen for doctors. Who are these guys and you see the Houston declare model in there too as his last incarnation then then it goes to <hes> I think a couple of different shots of back and forth and you see these other guys now apparently won? The bloopers in this one is that when during the whole mind-bending battle Elizabeth's Laden accidentally says. Tom And I think I've heard it once I have to I'd have to. I haven't heard that but I'm not I'm not gonna she's. She's making noises behind her like Tom. That's fun you'd think they would've least edited at well. Maybe not first oracle purposes like if there was a special edition version and that that maybe they would have <hes> at least it's not a starbucks cup this true or or water bottle well. If only you say that with the special edition when this was released on came out on Betamax V._H._S. LASERDISC which I've loved to have I'd love to find the laser disc copy of it. <hes> in Nineteen eighty-four there was an unedited omnibus edition and then they came out with the collector's edition back in one thousand nine hundred seven yeah. It was <hes> I remember watching it on P._B._S.. There the whole time when the doors blow up in the chandelier falls there was no. There's no music no sound effects and I still have it on V._H._S. from recording it off a P._B._S. C._B._S.. Years ago but yeah that's been hasn't hasn't been unofficial release right so may well. Maybe it'll turn up on the obviously there in the process of releasing season sets on blue right now right so maybe eventually when they get down to around to a season thirteen set. Maybe we'll see that the while those things where it's like okay I'm waiting for season thirteen. I'M BLU ray so listen line for that one right after after obviously like one of those people that collected every doctor who d._v._d.. So I you know I had all these D._v._D.'s and now I'm in the process. Okay the releasing the Blue Race ads finally so so the so now my my space for Dr who has obviously <hes> shrinking because of of the Kenmore slimmer set season sets but the question is what do I do with those original d._v._D.'s so I just put like I'm like like I can't. I don't WanNa throw them away. I don't get rid of them but I know probably just be watching the BLU rays so I just I would like. Maybe I'll archive them or something well. When you want to get rid of them you have my email so I'm not paying two hundred fifty dollars for <hes> planet of spiders? Oh is that's what it's up do now. That's what is up to because they're out of out of print. A lot of them are out of print so but <hes> yeah I need to check Ebay and see what they're going but breath yeah but <hes> I'm very fortunate yeah I because I bought them as each one was released so <hes> so I've got the mall so I'm very happy about that gaps but <hes> but anyway all right. I know that's it's enough drugs digression. Do you have anything else about <hes> the fourth doctrine Sarah Jane before Mandel all right so let's move on topic number two and this is where we get to talk about the villains Dr Solan and Condo Oh and which which always cracks me up that because I live in a condo so every time he said his name as just like okay. He's a condominium okay well. He's Kinda big big enough to be a gun minium <hes> and of course Moebius Noah so let's talk about <hes> these three <hes> obviously essentially <hes> Solan in in Condo are your typical <hes> Victor Franck Frankenstein. I always say Frankenstein because I'm a big young Frankenstein fan so yeah the Victor Frankenstein and Ebor archetypes and more BS obviously is is essentially the Frankenstein's monster in this and <hes> although <hes> I gotta think that <hes> you know the original movies they probably were a lot happier that they didn't go with a fishbowl head like <hes> they did and brain morpheus. I'm guessing but but anyway <hes> so you talk about these three <hes> obviously the like I said the Frankenstein Metaphor warriors are hard and strong in this one and so what did you think about about doctor who's essential take on like a version of this literary classic. Well Robert Holmes like to incorporate allow the classics in his writing and this was this is no different. I can tell you at age fourteen when I I saw it. I thought completely different about it now that I'm forty seven and it's just like okay well. You've got condo. Why didn't you just put the brain into condos head right and when you look at Condo what's wrong with that arm you well? Let's keep in mind though that Solan was nuts. He wasn't thinking logically. I'll give you that one because I mean if you think if you think about the creature that he created <hes> this patchwork creature that okay he took <hes> condo's <hes> left arm didn't take any other body parts just the just the arm because <hes> this creature is great. I just need a left arm and then <hes> condo finally makes this connection. Throughout of course this story that you know he finally sees a creature <hes> although why now and not like I'm sure he's been around as <hes> Sahlins been creating this thing crafting stitching together so I don't I know why all of a sudden he connects the dots and goes hey that my arm why your take my and <hes> and then obviously that's the the the big impetus for him rebelling against his Master Soling condos tough though you stop he took three shots to the chest. This is true bill survived to fight more of US as too dumb to die appear much the poor poor condo <hes> he did he also had in just like a little bit of Frankenstein from the classic movies <hes> He Kinda has <hes> an a fondness for Sarah Jane You have you noticed that if you remember <hes> in the you know that there was a blind girl in France in the move Frankenstein movie and essentially that's what Sarah Jane is here right and <hes> it's it's basically resetting that which actually he didn't throw into a lake yes exactly like a young Frankenstein or you know like <hes> yeah the that <hes> or or was it. She ended up on top of windmill or something. I forget what was or there are no. She laid their bed. That's right he throws her and she ends up in her bedroom and then the parents I've with relief in young Goodstein yeah that was good name will enter the original Frankenstein he throws lager. Oh girl under the water and drowns yeah so good thing they were on a mountain not so good from worby says it turns out because yeah so <hes> <hes> but someone was very character and he had he had his <hes> he had his agenda he had a he was obviously knew morpheus before he was killed by the toddlers by for years executed. You talked about yeah he's part of this essentially like a cult of ups and Sullen belong to this and it's probably one of the reasons why he he got away from <hes> being a respected scientists because he just saw buying into this whole cult <hes> these beliefs and he just became obsessed with it and the ultimate fan boy exactly exactly and as a result yeah you just <hes> <hes> he became obsessed with with bringing morbus back. I'm not I would have liked a little more backstory as to exactly how <hes> Solan and more BS met <hes> <hes> you know or at least you know how the how those two were like how is more bs in the position of we know that when when we're introduced to more BS <hes> he's essentially a brain in the jar right <hes> but we don't really get the backstory a of okay. How did these crazy kids hook up and you know in in what got <hes> as just maybe somehow <hes> at some point? Maybe that more BS <hes> <hes> I haven't read the novelization so I'm not sure if there was any backstory provided in that the target novelization not sure but <hes> but I kind of would like to know like okay <hes> you're a you're. Maybe it was just that <hes> Solan <hes> knew someone who had preserved more BS and <hes> together they conspired well. Hey Hey I just so happens. I'm a scientist out bring more bs back and and so he he retreated a car in essentially set up shop and Maurice was one of the higher ups to because at one point. He says that he led the High Council yeah exactly so we don't believe Lord President Yeah. That's what I would think yeah so so <hes> and then I'm I want to say that he obviously fell out of favour and I'm guessing when to exile and <hes> the IT. Would it be Kinda interesting. If <hes> Caruso was <hes> the like a like a a protege of Moebius like an acolyte an acolyte yeah that'd be yeah yeah we would have that would make sense if view watch the five doctors about why Brusca turned out the way dead because he maybe he was obviously part of that same insane morbus called I just I just come up with these ideas. Sorry don't like parties. Just goes like Oh. What do you mean great? If we connect this to this but in comics some work to do I would love to write for Titans Comics published comic book writer just saying <hes> <hes> but <hes> so <hes>. What did you think of <hes> you talked a little bit about you know that Sullen was prepared <hes> for when <hes> the doctor and Sarah? Jane arrived early like he had a plan so <hes> do you think he was just lying in wait and hoping that somebody would show up or do you think that <hes> he just like came up with this like okay. Hey this is what I'm GONNA do. I'm GonNa you know like I'm GONNA drug. Damn I'M GONNA cut off his head and and that'll be that well I think that being a member of the call two Moebius he probably had to get out of town pretty quick right and with Karn having that belt of magnetic radiation in the polls ships in right he probably crash-landed to and then set up shop there and just in the whole would down and that makes sense now. Obviously he's got. Apparently we get kind of. I'd that Sullen has some history with the sisterhood they know of each other. He's treated exactly yeah. It was just say that yeah it's explained that <hes> for whatever reasons <hes> maybe the one of the Sisterhood was injured or what have you and Solan <hes> having some knowledge in that area <hes> was able to least assist them but <hes> obviously the sisterhood not really trusting him. They're kind of like well okay. We know he's out there but he's not really harming us so we'll just kinda. Let him do his thing yeah. Even Oheka says say his unnatural experiments right so I think they only go to him in like a last ditch effort the absolutely have to yeah. They obviously seemed like they want to. Keep to themselves but <hes> stolen in Condo. They're just the perfect duo Solan see. They need to finish audio <music> as much as I. I don't like bullying right. His bullying. Tocado is actually pretty funny right and there's a quote I got later but it's like he and Condo just he takes it. He just okay. I'll do this. Pardon us the he's he's being insulted by by solid left and right but he's still takes takes care of them and does what he says because he wants that arm back right and that's the kind of thing is like soul condo actually stands up two Moebius a couple times but but like you said yeah he's because he's so focused on getting his arm back he he agrees he goes along with it but whatever whatever whatever sullen wants <hes> and it's only that <hes> when he I think he seizes Armand on the creature that that <hes> he realizes hey. He's Never GonNa give me my arm back. That's kind of the tipping point. What did you think of that moment? I I really enjoyed it because like I I said I there's so many times he could found that arm but luckily he found it for us yeah when he when he realizes that's his a he just the the switch gets flipped and he goes after him right so so I have to know this <hes> obviously I'm gathering. You've watched this story quite a number of times all right so the very first time you watch this and more BS came out as you know fishbowl head creature with a human arm lumbering around with this kind of big ice stocks on the fishbowl. What did you make that? What was your reaction to that? I was probably fourteen or fifteen the first time I saw it right. I loved so that was kind of cool. I thought it was the coolest thing ever wanted to make a huge claw arm for Halloween that that year right the I loved it time but the difference between now and then right so okay so all right so so that was your fourteen fourteen year old perspective. What's what's your older perspective on this like? I said earlier he's he could've put the brain in condos head when he wants to take up the doctor said just take out the doctors brain right and just swop it. It's just it's it's not story but it's fun yeah exactly and it's fun to talk about stuff like that too and again my explanation is that well hey solan nuts so obviously he's not really thinking all this through like you should be but think of think of great parties probably brings a banana yeah. Just don't just don't let them bring the wine just saying just a little <hes> little safety tip kids gets all <HES> bill cosby on everybody all right <hes> anything about <hes> these characters Sullen condo and more BS. We finally got some blood on doctor who yeah when he when he hits Condo in the chest with that that's right yeah. I'm sure splatter. Mary Whitehouse had you know had the vapors watching that between that and the the cyanide gas yes. She went nuts for those who aren't aware what I'm talking about. Mary Whitehouse was <hes> this rather problematic figure at that <hes> caused the the series some grief back in the seventies because of <hes> what she felt was excessive massive violence and <hes> and horror and basically taking once wanted to take all the fun out of doctor who there's always one out there and <hes> so she's kind of become a notorious aureus figure for classic era fans will find thing is Johnathan Turner in an interview. He said that you know what if Mary Whitehouse finds a problem with it in the starts going out about it. I just got to more ratings points the next week because you want. Everyone wants to see what's going going on right. Oh I see what you're saying yeah because the controversy exactly Yep <hes> controversy does sell or in this case <hes> get ratings so yep but <hes> but yeah just <hes> one of those things but the final battle between Condo and Morbus say when I just thought it was Iraq that condo gets gets caught with his own arm right when his ways wrestling with mortgage but and I want to ask you about all right so so more BS <hes> I would ultimately in his conclusion <hes> he gets quarter by the sisterhood they finally get around to like the doctor kind of convinces them like okay. We have to do something about this not more BS and they get so essentially the sisterhood get their pitchfork so again more Frankenstein parallels that they're essentially that the angry towns people going after the monster and the corner more BS and essentially corner him into fall back off of a cliffside off the mountain and he plummets to his death and we actually get to see him falling which was great <hes> and I thought it was funny because because here's Sarah she spends like episodes two and three essentially <hes> figuring out getting out of the castle fumbling around on the cliffside doesn't kill herself somehow even though she probably came came close a couple of times and here's more more bs Mr Mr Super Intelligent Person <hes> allowing himself to get cornered by by women with pitchforks or for with <hes> <hes> torches us and ends up having untimely end as by falling off a cliff. I think it was just the sheer number of them he was he was it is cornered a date they they wanted nothing to do with with going after him until he killed the one sister Qelia yes and then that's when they really started saying okay. Let's we have to we have to help the doctor but yeah they're they're coming out on with with torches torches. I'd get anybody who's going to back away from that all right <hes> anything else about <hes> these characters foreign move on no I think all right so on the topic of the sisterhood so let's talk about the Sisterhood Sisterhood Karn <hes> and now this I thought was rather really especially now. <hes> after being brought back in the modern era <hes> I find their introduction here to be really interesting. <hes> it's it's it's kind of like the little little Nice little tidbit of time Lord History because we don't obviously can't get enough time history <hes> and so essentially with their presented as as this kind of off shoot <hes> we're not quite sure if they they were originally gala Frei and then moved to Karn or they just happened to know of the time Lords had had encountered them before but at some point they had a falling out and as a result the sisterhood went into seclusion on Karn <hes> became very distrustful obviously very distressful at the time lords so that when the doctor shows up <hes> kind of presents a problem for him because obviously they don't trust him especially once as they figure out well hey he's a time Lord and you know and he he's gotTa Tartus and he they think he's here to steal our elixir of life right. So so what did you think about the introduction to this very interesting addition to the doctor who mythos well when I was younger younger I used to call them. The <hes> the facts of life in space because there's the whole all female cast with the headmaster but <hes> yeah I I'd like to believe that <hes> they did work closer with the time Lords. This happens essentially marines like Mrs Garrett. I'm guessing guys are angel know that so yeah exactly yeah. That's kind of dating us a little bit okay <hes>. I'm I'm. I'm guessing passing that <hes> Oheka is Blair and which one Tutti is but I I really like the the correlation and bringing them back in the modern era is just a Gal free. It's ought to be close to Karn. Maybe like seeing system. Yes something like that but yeah they <hes> something must have happened. Were at least near the Constellation of Kester Bruce Right. Yes something happened. There's something must've happened in the past where even before Morbus and his army came to Karn <hes> I don't know if the maybe they encountered another time Lord that tried to steal the elixir or whatever but very <hes> very defensive and very standoffish well especially since we're we're told at the beginning that <hes> the running out of the Elixir of life and they're not quite sure how to the <hes> not quite sure what to do about it until the doctor comes up comes over and <hes> essentially throws a firecracker down there and <hes> clears out the the soot as he says right out of the chimney and allows the flame to Kinda get more oxygen and and presumably become. I'm a stronger flame so which he said that I I I wanna say that he saved them because they just let that go and go right of the whole mountain could have exploded obviously that because the there obviously not very heavily technologically analogically advanced early <hes> at least they don't rely on a lot of technology. It's more of more obviously a religious cast religious and tokenistic right exactly yeah so <hes> yeah very very psychically psychically <hes> enhanced and because yeah they they do have these <hes> they're obviously able to transport objects with their mind now that you bring this up <hes> and I found that to be rather interesting so so the time whereas they have have <hes> vast mental powers which kind of makes me wonder again like are these to re related. Somehow are again are the an offshoot of the time lords that just essentially broke away right and then <hes> became their own order or <hes> or is it just coincidental that maybe they're like that but either be either yeah but either way I just I find them intriguing. I don't WanNa know more about them. I'm glen they brought them. Doc Mini series exactly yeah I mean <hes> the they have this yeah they <hes> it. It shows a lot of potential in hoping they that continues the hopefully we'll see them again <hes> because I do want him no more about them but <hes> <hes> <hes> I thought I thought they were rather interesting and the kind of <hes> character arc they they kind of go through in the story is that Merrin an older the older leader of the of the a sisterhood <hes> is cast to be kind of convinced that in this kind of convinced by the doctor that <hes> because you know they're essentially immortal their lives don't change they keep remaining constant. She must have been old when the Elixir was found exactly and <hes> it's at the end of the story where Merrin <hes> gives up the elixir of life and uses gives it up selflessly and essentially a is essentially condemning yourself to death and so what did you would you think of that of of the sisterhood or lease the data leader here Marin <hes> realizing that maybe the doctor was right and that's things needed to change I think as as the story went on she realized that more and more when you when you look at her in the beginning <hes> she's like I said very standoffish towards the end. She realizes that okay yeah. He's here to help. He's not here to steal elixir but giant after he after he helps them defeat Moebius a they're going to she wants to take care of a mixture. He's Okay Okay and then obviously there's the self immolation after she <hes> goes into the fire herself and she she also for meant there. We kinda wonder if she regenerates because she becomes very youthful and then dissipates right but <hes> it's probably there becomes one with the force no eight. That's some other franchise never mind but <hes> we is a character. I very very strong female character Yep. I really liked her all right any yeah they thought about the sisterhood. You'd like to add or anything else about the story to add before we move on little trivia. I know they <hes> when Tom Baker was on that was set to be burned. I guess that actually got a little too hot and they had they had to get him off before he caught fire her and Cynthia Grenville. She's the one who says Tom Jump but I'm glad they brought them back. I don't know what it is. What the doctor who production team they keep wanting to set the doctors on fire because we talked <hes> Zan sprouts and I talked about this on <hes> we talked the greatest show in the galaxy that Sylvester McCoy was almost caught on fire because of this explosion of in the circus tent and didn't the pieces of the back of his Co.? Yes yeah this you know in the because the heat was just so intense <hes> and <hes> but he just went ahead like a trooper went on with performance knowing that he was on on fire and after after the podcast I went back and we watched it again well. That's good. That's what we want from our listeners is that hey I watched it so it's time like yeah so if nothing else where great excuses excuse for going back in dusting off the your d._v._d.. Collection and enjoying these classic episodes or anything else now I think I got it all right <hes> now you said he has some great lines of the episodes I want to so <hes> tell see your your favorite line so well the favorite just start off and we can alternate that you want all right <hes> I've got when <hes> when they come into the castle and Solan looks and he says magnificent ahead <hes> he says why have had several. I used to have an old grey bottle so people liked it. Sarah says I did yeah that was a good one nice not to Jon Pertwee and <hes> but yeah yeah you always get Kinda got that as much as she really liked the fourth doctor she always seemed like she favored the third. They always say you always love your first doctor and Sarah. Jane is no exception of <hes> <hes> yeah that's great <hes> <hes> <hes> one of the lines I liked was the doctor upon seeing the Tartus <hes> with the sisterhood and he goes <hes>. How did you get her here? By the way in one of the sisters says the power our the sisterhood and the doctor goes really but you mean you've still practice teleportation. How quaint now if you got yourself a decent forklift truck ought to any other lines when the sisterhood tell the doctor out of Sullivan's lab right Condo looks is Dr Gone and Salsas? I could see that you'd chicken brain biological disaster and that's day when I hear I still crack up that is funny. That's a good line. <hes> I liked <hes> another exchange between the doctors in the win. The Sisterhood <hes> she goes is <hes> you have but a little time left will you wasted prattling nonsense or confess your guilt and the doctor goes. What do you mean I have but a little time left and the sister says before you die and the doctor replies is but I'm only seven hundred forty nine life doesn't begin until seven hundred fit in the sisterhood erupts at the next son it is that is agreed and the doctor goes not by me it isn't I haven't even been consulted? <hes> I love that my next one is between Moebius and Solan he says do you think I care about my ultimate appearance just to walk again to feel to see so it gives a little bit more were Human Pathak not pathos in that that he you kind of get at least a little hutch of sympathy for more bs because hey was a brain in jar andy you know obviously anyone unwanted opposition with what obviously loved to have a body again so you kind of feel form but obviously the ways going about. It doesn't quite work. I like to exchange between the doctrine Sarah <hes> where the doctor goes. You thought it was dead. Didn't you and Sarah's like <hes> the doctor replies. You're always making that mistake. I got one last one okay here all right when the doctor Christie's the flame for the first time as it's it's something spiritual to them and he just looks aces fascinating and the heat from the flame causes oxidation chemicals in the rocks and no doubt a chemical reaction with rising superheated gases and you have your mixer after the impossible dream of thousand of dripping t from in our ice and they're just looking like no it's this is the flame of life yeah. They're not really into the whole scientific ex yeah when the doctrine Sarah are taunting Moebius the doctor the doctor goes. You can't really go on calling yourself morpheus. There's very little of Moebius left. Why don't you think of another name? Potpourri three would be appropriate. <unk> Sarah says or how about Chop Suey the doctor says Chop Suey Galactic Emperor and that comes back in the big finish audio the vengeance of ORCAS. That's right it does is you have those aren't aware <hes> there was one big finish brought more bs back during Paul mcgann's eighth Dr <hes> and <hes> a really good two-parter really good and also involves evolves assistance hood so yeah <hes> obviously recommend checking that out very cool vehicle story. I like that one lot all right <hes> ever rating for this one. I'm going to give it <hes> thought I thought long about this one because like I said the my thoughts between the first time I saw it when I was fourteen and then throw throughout the years I'm GonNa go eight out of ten flame of Life Replica Daggers Nice Nice. I think I'd still be cool to craft while those while I'm going to be a little more generous than you 'cause. I really liked this story. <hes> I'M GONNA give it eight and a half out of ten fishbowl heads there you go with ice docks of course have to have the iceboxes ice talks. Yes <hes> obviously probably got him. <hes> discounted from the the DALEKS. I'm guessing leftovers or you know data models all right now I do have a reverse the reverse the players segments. I've been wondering about this one and I think this one might be a little obvious but <hes> so obviously since we're we're not reversing the player where reversing reversing the clarity and so we're going to go ahead <hes> to twenty. Twenty thirteen to the night of the Doctor The mini episode from twenty thirteen written by Stephen Moffitt and you could probably already guessed the connection on this one go with the mini so but Yup was going to go with the mini episode in this is probably the best many episode so <hes> because if nothing else we got the return Paul mcgann's doctor finally and a regeneration the exact inter-generation so yeah it was big one so during the time where we have the eighth Dr Attempting to rescue pilot named CASS WHO's spaceship is crashing and when CASS realizes that the doctors time Lord she refuses aid <hes> ignoring his claims that he was never part of the time war <hes> the doctor refuses to abandon cast and both are killed when the ship crashes on the planet Karn Yep were of you guessed it. The sisterhood of Karn have been expecting him inside a cave the Doctor Sally Awakens with a jolt and calls out forecasts. Oh Hilo Not Oheka when the sisters explains that the doctor died in the crash in Casas beyond their help the sisterhood restored him temporarily via the Elixir of life after after they recovered his body giving him only four minutes to live. Oh he explains that they're elixir can trigger his regeneration in the help him fully return from the dead. She adds that using Elixir trigger their agenda of process will allow the doctor to choose which traces knicks incarnation will possess rather than be a random change. The doctor asked why the sisterhood would help him recalling that the sister who was never grateful of his past help no kidding as we just talked about Oh he'll explains that time war threatens all reality and that the doctor is the only hope left so apparently they're desperate and the doctor resist taking part of the time in the war but after seeing castles dead body concedes. There's no need for a doctor anymore and asking oh he'll elixir that will turn him into a warrior he takes the challenges and salutes the memory of his pass companions which was great moment because we got the big finish audio companions of Love Paul mcgann eighth doctor actually becoming cannon. I was very happy about <hes> he regenerates into a new incarnation known as the war doctor who don's gases bandelier and in Clair's himself Dr Dr no more so if you enjoyed the brain of Moebius you will definitely enjoy the night of the doctor becomes the sisterhood of Karner all over that one and the like I said that lakes are of life life and we get regeneration from the doctrine to the war doctor so pretty big stuff so <hes> if you don't enjoy the night of the doctor there's something seriously wrong with you in my opinion. I'm glad that's the one that brought the big finish cannon exactly so there's so many aided dimensions all the old companions before he regenerates for being only six seven minute episode Steven moffat checked a lot of boxes with no plot holes that one nope nope it's nice short in and out and <hes> pretty much perfect really <hes> all right <hes> so we do have some listener feedback great and <hes> we got <hes> let's see here. Let's see here editor to we've got S- <hes> back here all right there. We go so I I wanted. We got <hes> holly from Wisconsin writing in once again always great to hear from Holly <hes> she goes. Hey Charles and John on we get more background story. This is referring to the boring Moebius she's discussing so we get more background story with some of the time words in how they will do anything to survive along with a possible way to how the time Lords are able to possibly regenerate. Thanks thanks to the flame yeah that you know sacred fire sacred flame <hes> that the sisterhood of Karn keep going also thought it was interesting that the outfits that the sisterhood of Karn where almost look look almost exactly like the outfits that Civilian Sisterhood War which obviously is a reference to the fires upon pay and <hes> an offshoot maybe or a different sect now. That's an interesting connection connection. It is yeah I never thought about that. They do have kind of similar. I make up so I won't rule that out right. <hes> what is it with some of the time words wanting a whole lot of power and being able to cheat death after punishments and she mentions Rousillon Omega the Masters Spring to mind <hes> <hes> first time we see them and it's not the last I wonder if it will heal the one who helped eighth doctor and talk to the tenth twelfth. Dr Isn't some relation to Oheka and the story well. Obviously I suggested that as well <hes> poor Sarah Jane this episode though on the other hand not being able to see right now might not be a bad thing with that huge brain in the jar breath of course she gets her site back just in time to run away from that Harry shrimp like monster. It did have a kind of a giant prawn vibe to it. Didn't it a little bit yeah yeah <hes> a giant problem with a lobster oster cloth so <hes> so if you're in the mood for seafood. I'm just saying <hes> time Lord mind off. I guess referring to the <hes> the mind-bending <hes> like where the doctor alike where the doctor is going with it the sacrifice to keep the light going. I didn't see coming when I I watched it good story and glad that the newer series of doctor who that the sisterhood of Karn had come back and been mentioned rapid rapid appear holly from Wisconsin so they Kim thank you holly and <hes> cheers for <hes> giving John Shot in your greeting. I appreciate it sure appreciate that <hes> let's see here so we also have David Kay proctor who has written us in a while and I know that because he tells me so so he says <hes> I know I have rented a while but I wanted no. I am still a loyal listener. I never miss a podcast. You're awesome David points for that points for you <hes> however since the wonderful world of doctor who is not in current production right now I've been spending my time catching up on the gaps in my classic Doctor Who Library nothing that I subscribed to breadbox am enjoying their collection. It is tough for me to break the chain that they were made in and go find one out of order to keep up with you guys for every podcast <hes> yeah so apparently David's a bit anal about this but that's okay I get it. I get it you don't want to go out of order and we kinda jump around all over the place. <hes> the reason we do that is because if we didn't it would be a longtime before we got to some everybody's favorite doctors so so I I think <hes> kind of not knowing where you're going to end up. <hes> is a very doctor like thing to do you and it Kinda helps us to be able to jump around and give everybody a chance to hear their doctor. I'm sure he's happy that you haven't done a tell. Snap re-creations either exactly so David continues. He's two of your most recent podcast. A girl who waited and alike are two of my favorite episodes from the modern era. I am eagerly awaiting the return to the current doctor with some new adventures. Aren't we all <hes>. I really liked the new doctor you guys and breadbox together are keeping me afloat afloat in this void. Well thank you <hes>. That's cool. <hes> keep up the good work. I hope you find good health and return to my favorite podcast so yes hopefully it won't be too long and <hes> you know <hes> you know. We'll be here but <hes> plenty of episodes <hes> but it's okay to kind of like you know cheat a little bit and skip ahead to nobody's GonNa think badly of you. I I know is early won't but thank you for writing. David always great to hear from you as well. It's thanks for China's again. <hes> we also got another absent listener at least Absent Commoner Paul Beck writes in <hes> with an update haven't heard he says dear Charles. I'm sorry have not been sending any episode reviews lately both Linda his wife life and and I are snowed in with stuff at the moment and talks about his wife being his <hes> Weiss business in dealing with that and work being hectic and he goes on saying. I'm still been listening. <hes> <hes> in the shows have been awesome. The guest presenters have been great yeah like like John here. Thank you so that is something I would like to try one day well. You're more than welcome to Paul just dropped me line. I'm always always looking for special. Guests campaign is to join me here on stop everywhere at least until the new season starts so we got a lot of time left plenty of two thousand nineteen left to get work one in <hes> once I get all the SORTA and have more free time we'll start reviewing again until then keep up the good work my regards to you Jesse and Karen and Holly and all the Great Co hosts Paul P._S.. Can't believe you're coming up to the One hundred fiftieth episode great achievement exclamation remark exclamation mark exclamation mark. Thank you Paul lovely to hear from you again and <hes> thank you to all our listeners so yeah Holly David Paul. Everybody listens to us. <hes> we really appreciate you guys and we're glad you're enjoying the show. We hope you keep enjoying the show and <hes> it's great when people like John here are able to help us out so I wanNA thank you John for helping us out. You're very welcome. You're welcome back anytime anytime love talking to you. You're always found of knowledge lots of stuff. I don't know so you you Kinda. Show me up and I liked that. <hes> like like I talked to you earlier before we started recording. It's you know the more you work you do less. I have to do and I want to so I get to be little lazy and this is this is work. That's fun exactly because who doesn't enjoy talking doctor who right that's right. That's why we're here and that's why hopefully everybody out. There is listening to us so if you want to be like Holly David Paul and one right in or let us know how you doing what you think of the show you drop US align at next stop everywhere S. N. G. at gmail.com that's next up everywhere S. N.. G. 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I think you had a link to my my personal page which I'm always I'm always adding new doctor who friends <hes> but yeah we do have the Ohio type forty and since the last podcast that was guest hosting on we have gotten a few more like so I do appreciate that that's right yeah. Yeah please do so yeah. <hes> Ohio take forty great group and obviously hardly hardly approved by next. Stop everywhere so you the official next up everywhere <hes> Russell on seal of approval. I'll you know what I got my arm here. Oh Nice for those. He's just showed off his ink all right hunting. I gotta get screen shot of this all right all right there you go oh hold on era. Go got it like array for Prince Green so put the era right good. I got awesome all right cool so I appreciate it. If you don't mind I WANNA post. He's right yeah. That's cool <hes> but yeah definitely respect the the Gallery Seal Inc.. The you got the seal of Raslan Salon. I've got numerous ones all rum very cool. 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That's good for you. <hes> do have some quick news series twelve news <hes> if you're not already aware this we've been kind of blasting on our very social media but if you're not aware of this already he <hes> at least by the time you get to listen to this <hes> the June or coming back to Dr Mohawk with a Mohawk. You know you know like some rhinos. You know they got a little <hes> Mr T.. There were fan of Mr T. back in the day so the Iraq and the the Mohawk they're a little bit and they're coming back so yeah so <hes> for everybody all upset that there weren't enough connections to previous Ariza doctor who <hes> at least right now we're getting at at the very least that Je Dune probably more guessing now that after that <hes> of after acres first series <hes> but so they'll be returning <hes> we don't know exactly the full story yet but <hes> or that you know the title or anything but <hes> but it's kind of Nice to know that <hes> at least one creature from the classic are from the modern era will be returning and presumably more. I'm guessing we'll see more connections than absolutely hoping bring to hear Jody Wynn. That'd be funny especially with her accent yet. Yeah that would be pretty good. <hes> we know we know David tennant did so maybe tenant because they were both on broad church <hes> maybe he gave her some lessons. How does how to speak June? That'd be fun to hear ball row show. No you've got it already. It's pretty easy just is kind of a you know. Put Oh those and everything but <hes> almost kinda like the name game you know like N._F._o.. Back in the day now if somebody says Mo- fo I will just lose Mojo mo now that would be hilarious if they had a June saying Boafo. I gotTa Stop Ono Boafo. That'd be hilarious all right so <hes> but other yes oh so we've got that coming up and <hes> so I know <hes> and there was talk that <hes> maybe we'll get Christmas special this year which would be nice because last time we had heard was that Dr who was going to be back until twenty twenty so that would be nice if we actually not just a rumor that went a little too far. We don't have an official announcement on it'd be great did but fingers crossed. I'm sure a lot lot of people with at least I think I think at Christmas special would definitely help make this long hiatus much more tolerable like hey we actually have at least one episode in Twenty nineteen to look forward to but in the meantime we're going to be here next up everywhere obviously recording and <hes> talking previous stories and next time next EPA everywhere we're GonNa talk the fires of Pompeii which we just mentioned that too long ago the fun story with the Siblings Story Sisterhood <hes> this is a great one <hes> Jesse's returning for this one and obviously this one's kind of is back. Obviously during the David tennant era Catherine has done a noble and of course the debut Peterka polity before he become like a couple of air as before he becomes the doctor himself Karen Gillan yes so essentially Peter Capacity joins is the club of <hes> actors that actually appeared on doctor who before becoming characters so like <hes> like Colin Baker if you remember it if you ever watch Arkan infinity he was on Axel Maximal Maximal and <hes> he obviously went on become the six doctor and so yep and I and Bernard Craven's who is actually in the Peter Cushing <hes> dogs evasion of Earth Twenty one fifty eight he ended up becoming wolf of course so he's got a little bit of a tie there and <hes> that's Oh window of course <hes> liking the characters the actor's name of who played <hes> twice upon a time David Bradley David Bradley who was in the <hes> the Matt Smith Era Story <hes> Pacers and spatial. Thank thank you it's been a long day. I've been since five forty five sound dragging a bit but <hes> but obviously he went on to be Cohen the doctor himself in twice time so very cool all right <hes> so we'll be talking about that fires upon pay eight s could be a lot of fun and a great story John Thank you again. We love having you on the podcast. You bring a lot of knowledge and <hes> your hopefully you felt more comfortable this time than you. Did your first outing well I. I hope it sounds like it. I think you sound more relaxed than the first time I thought you refine the first time but this time you see more relaxed sounds good and best wishes to the Jesse and Karen Karen when we obviously miss but she still helping us out behind the scenes with getting the episodes out to everybody so much appreciated their Jesse like I said we'll be back next week so <hes> you get to hear his dulcet tones once again all right so everybody thank you for listening to the next stop everywhere and we'll see next time for the fires upon pay. It's going to be a good one right here next up everywhere the doctor who podcast good-bye everybody thicker.

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Voice Directing with Andrea Romano

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Voice Directing with Andrea Romano

"Hi this is andrea romano is the voice director on batman the animated series the justice league avatar the last heir bender and a couple of other projects six two and you're listening to nerd on in on what's going on everyone welcome back to nerd on the podcast you didn't need but you deserve and we're all levels of nerd are you're welcome all right everyone gather around your electronic devices and dedicate your time to this episode please all of our episodes or special special to us and someone but today we have something special we are graced by the lord's above and one of the greatest orchestrators of our time came in time ahead of us we could say she directed some of your favorite performances from i don't know duck tales anna maniacs batman joker superman the justice league we're going to be here while but we are here with andrea romano wow brought them to the show to be here thanks for having me so we actually met at a san diego comic comecon and that was so much fun and you 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because i should have asked us before we started rolling do do you have any qualms with any lewd languages as you're doing the intro i should've asked whether we can work blue or not absolutely no problem obviously as long as it's not you know we're we're the radar thank you asking you to ask people could have a problem we're now works really clean clean language that's the nicest guy have you do you know him have you ever met i know that you did and i hired him several times just because i dug him so much and i love hiring him to do something very unlike his persona what is known for which was to play a quite evil and so even when i asked him how he wanted his credit he said maybe not weird our for this one maybe al yankovic but what's so interesting about my relationship with al is my husband of twenty the eight years we just celebrated twenty eight years thank you he did the artwork for al's original albums the coolest also awesome that is very cool made me happy gems exactly throughout do you know do you know i- because the cons and places and he doesn't really interesting set at that we were with him in denver when we're doing the justice league some reunion of some sort yup and we flew flew together on the same plane and we were chatting and and then i is set up by the comic con and they had this little booth set up where it was like curtained-off and and you kind of stood in line and you've got to go inside and you had this one on one with him that's wonder if that was far more intimate than your average konak which is exactly there's so much much no cacophony around but this and i thought what a cool moment you laugh yeah wow that's great i don't know where to go from here gone off your we send you all these questions were like i feel like sony stories though i have a million and i'm writing a book i've been working on this for about the last twenty years whenever something wonderful or need someone in a recording session or something whole hilarious would happen i would go home and just on a little desktop file right enough words to remind myself what that was like twenty years ago so i have these fabulous stories that i looking forward to talents not just those wild and wonderful things but also just the path that i took to get where i ended happened my career exact and it was a and i've got no i do a little bit every week or so i get ready for an hour and a half or two hours and then it stops being interesting for me in so i stop and then i travel a lot we've been traveling the world and so then i'm gone for nine days and then i come back and i get into it but what i do is basically you just expound on a story that i made notes about so whether it was meeting buddy hackett and probably also and i met him i was a smoker fokker many years ago and i was just finished moving cigarette and i was waiting for the actors to arrive and i walked inside and there's buddy hackett he's arrived since i went outside and it went over oh mr hackett hi i'm andrea romano voice director and he said did you just smoke a cigarette and i said yes i'm sorry does this smell offend you and he said no no don't smoke smoke i just met you and they could kill you and he gave me this incredible hog this man i had never met before are who had this quite intimate you know hug with me just i mean kind thoughtful and like he actually cared here in about an and so i quit smoking seven months stories stories like kinds of stories that i wanna tell where where these strange little things happen so i am writing a book and i have it's gonna take me a while before i get it all done but it's going to be simple and it's also hope inspirational for people about how i came from not at all in this i didn't even know there was a job called voice director for animation didn't know there was that also being the youngest agent that was cool that was really cool and i never expected to be an agent either i actually thought i was going to be an actor i studied acting in my undergraduate work place called state university of new york at for dona which is up near buffalo oh new york and i think that might be part of why i never went to chicago before it's you know i was there for the winter of seventy seven when it was forty below yeah people are not meant to live in that they're truly not and i vowed never ever to be in that again once i was able to get out of it and and i got my word but went to then i ended up doing some dubbing supervision which was a whole other part of my the work that was so cool and i'll talk about my book as well and ended up going to finland in february so i was very much in that same freezing freezing my husband was with me my husband's from brazil phil and he's had those docs walking on ice yeah it really is those boats frozen in the harbor yeah my brazil you know they don't really really have frozen harbor so very very fun to be in finland matter white it was just cool to half i was doing the dumping supervision on the first pokemon movie not at all you know my childhood was so wild because it didn't matter what i dubbed it in five different languages spanish italian french maybe german and then we went over to sweden in an and finland and you have to bear did you voice rector for all of the languages dubbing supervisor names that essentially because i didn't speak all those languages i have very good working knowledge of all the romance languages but swedish and finnish the words are this low yeah for like cup how do you direct in all those languages basically what you do the truth of it is anyone of you could sit and watch an animated peace with foreign voices for him speaking language and tell whether or not it sounds downs happy wheel right the acting sounds good more weather it sounds like a forty year old woman trying to sound like a twelve year old all those things yeah really because you have experienced listening to these things in watching these things and so i had a lot of experience with that specifically so i could say that just not you know that voice just sounds fakey i'm sorry it sounds faking cartoon my job was to make sure that everything sounded really genuine for all products i worked on at a maniacs the first couple of episodes so of everything i did for spielberg i went over and supervise the dubbing and and that makes an and here's a really cool thing about dubbing supervision that a lot of people don't know it's not it just what i just mentioned but it's also things like i remember and i think it was germany i was supervising kung-fu panda the first time they did feature beautiful film and and i was working for dreamworks i've always been very kind to me about this kind of work they said okay the i went for meeting i said okay you're going to be dealing with that country you're doing that country andres taking care of the figs you're doing that you're that and the second time they said that i said i sort of feel like an absolute idiot what are the figs france italy elite germany spain okay i'll do those and so i spent a week in each country doing the deputy division had to go back because what they wanted was casting wise they didn't want just people with experience doing dubbing with frenemy or w at all they wanted the the equivalent of jack black they wanted below the median also an actor and known in that territory they wanted a celebrity the leg repeal korea the same level of dustin hoffman to come in and do that and so that was really cool first of all to work with those actors bet that kind of work there and then there will be things like if you remember the film there's a moment when jack black and dustin hoffman climbing this mountain and po the characters starts washing his armpits in the pool of sacred tears and the who says po we do not wash our pits in the pool of sacred tears so as i'm doing the dumping and i hear it in german and i'm listening to the performance i said can you translate that back to me verbatim what it is you're saying and they said paul we do not wash armpits in the pool of sacred tears said there's a joke doc there you're missing this very sort of honorable elegant sophisticated character is saying pits as as a kind of a slur casinos nose job and they thought and they said we have a very specific word for animal furry armpits and i said we have to figure out how to make make that work because that's exactly the kind of we have to do and so that made it fascinating because it wasn't just verbatim dubbing it was how do we make this work for each territory what will work in france that might not work in germany what will work in spain that my work cultural context exactly and that made it really fun for me and i really enjoyed all the one i worked on but i specifically could speak to the ones that i had initially cast and directed myself i had worked on them over and over and over again acting but but like true localization absolutely absolutely so so like do you remember the maniac song yeah coz world every country had to sort sort of deal with that specifically for themselves as at make it rhyme which i don't envy they and they so in germany they i in german they made it say germany you already know which was just some way of localizing and making it specific to the territory which was just great fun yeah i really really enjoyed that work ethic is a common language yes that's what bat all say different things but in the end it all takes a lot of hardwork talented people right that's right willing to spend hours and hours and hours we watch cartoons here it's all about like relating to things and in and talking to your friends about it so i'm sure it's important to make sure that the kids around the world also feel like they know what's happening they don't feel like they're watching a foreign thing absolutely absolutely right so they look the ideally these watched right they watch a feature film and they believe that that was actually created in their language for for them as it should be because a lot of these cars on about you guys but i'm sure it affects your own development of your own sense of humor and it's set like that like my my earliest memories are of cartoons it was a really important part of my life i was a cartoon fan from the youngest yes yogi bear in a quick draw mcgraw i and my personal favorite and i've mentioned this before but the reason is if guys know that show it was the first time a cartoon character that i was aware of broke the fourth wall wall and looked right into camera yeah and spoke to me you know he could see i was convincing could see me through the TV and talk to me and the day i met dawes butler and said mr butler huckleberry how was my favorite character and he spoke to me as huckleberry hound my gosh and i lost my yeah i just i had no idea what have that emotional reaction when you smell something that smells like my school bus when i went to this was just zipped back in time and i was so honored to get to know these people and i mean most of us ah honor just to meet some of them are ever got to actually work with mel blanc and work with all these remarkable people and that was kind of a fun thing in my career you're too as a casting director where i kept a list of people i just plain wanted to work with you guys i thought they were awesome and two guys the only one that i was not ever able to do that i wanted and it's such a nerdy thing and i mean that in the best way of course yes was alex trebek's did to hire him so much i met him a couple of times took my husband to a screening taping of the show was really fun 'cause they're both huge fans of jeopardy and i asked him when i met him at one of the events would you like to divorce his oh yes i i can do a lot of voices that i know i watch on this all i hear you do things i hear you do impressions and how do i reach out to you all to do the jeopardy you own production company and then there was one gig on an show that i was doing for work that they it required an alex trebek's but they wanted a comedian yeah so close it was one of the shows i worked on in my hall player and i got a chance to do it and now he's sick bless his heart alex rebecca san i always just just back in chemo the thing is that's great about him is that he's staying strong i love that like he's just reaching what's his fans and all his heart touching yes a- any talks about he's very candid he talks about how he'll be in the middle of his day suddenly for for no apparent reason he'll just cry burst into tears and this is one of the happiest human beings on the planet but he's facing a life threatening disease survived this as as far as he has in so well it looks fantastic does he looks crowds there was another incident and the doctor said right away we've gotta get so let's all whatever we do that we to put that energy out there and then dreamworks makes an animated series about the craziness that has behind the scenes uh-huh four every there's this this is each of the the categories this is the kind of thing that can extend someone's life and i say this because when we meet the jetsons at hanna barbera in the mid eighties eighties we click casting director there and gordon hunt was the voice director and we were presented with forty one new episodes and i said let's try to to get the original actors let's just see if we can't may be they're still around may be and so we reached out to all of them and george o'hanlon who was the voice of george jetson had had a stroke six to eight years earlier and was mostly blind and spoke with his wife on the phone and she said you know i don't i let me talk about said absolutely absolutely let me call you tomorrow and after you've had a conversation with him and i reached out trying to next interested i haven't heard him so happy so excited for eight years and so what we would do because it was a very specific is a challenge we would send him this was talking about a while ago the scripts will radio week in advance already heard of advanced we would send the script to answer hanlin or just wife she would read the script word of wave top everything stage direction everything camera pans whatever it was going on on cassette then when they would drive to the session shen from west lake i think they lived to burbank after come she would play the cassette for him so he could remember the story and how to write their exactly and then gordon hunt the director would sit in the studio with george i would sit in the booth and listen for any noise and gordon would feed him his lines and he would echo them back because he couldn't read them and and and he needed the coach he needed gordon to tell them how to do the lighting because remember food araca cycle after a stroke that's just not an easy it so but what i know is that we extended this man's life he had a reason to get up every week with forty one episodes and then a feature yeah and and his wife would say you know i haven't seen his his health is better his attitude is better he he fights with me again again of it and and i got all the actors to come back we got dos butler and butler ended up coaching penny singleton who played jane jetson because she had dentures and you need to help or not click it was cool everybody else mel blanc of course one of my prized possessions is a script from the jetsons that mel blanc marked and he would mark every word one line underneath at two lines underneath a squiggly line here and act say yes so he like really mapped out his performance norman which was absolutely fascinating makes with her via script she has like it's just even like separating essentially the delivery is that's right it's like diagramming senate tells you remind you what would you want to get to and what you wanna hidden the more important part of how the sentence squiggly shape talib's it it's really good to i mean everybody kind of highlights their scripts but leah something more to make yourself remember what it was you wanted to do that special that right different that makes your you'll be that way because it's all written for all right you know the technical side of this i used to actually do with shakespeare scripts yeah oh oh yeah if they're delivered in a kind of monotonous way it it's not real but like if you market you can get the certain inflections and translate it so it doesn't sound like emotional national journeys yeah do you know who's billionth at that with shakespeare specifically as kenneth branagh spear accessible to anybody who will just sit and listen because he's just articulate he makes sense of those words even if you don't know all those what that meant back in the fourteen hundreds is clear not what he's talking about very i mean i'll speak very frankly and we'll talk about it a little bit later in the show but like remember when i was in school they're like here's a book read it and i was like i don't know anything watch was it hamlet hamlet i saw hamlet i had to watch the movie in order like oh wait oh oh that's a very cool example of how to read it and understand how humans poets poetry traits actually acting it's actually things are happening really good one i wasn't too smart as child either glad to know that you did go in and read it that's that's the tools homework one and also like everyone knows about hanley ever knows about rome enjoyed let me least do some homework so i can try to figure this that jetsons story three i feel like that's a movie right there oh yeah that's like one of those last ride films all the legends of and then they come out they're like do one more time one year show almost i was like oh there's a there's a topper to that when we were making the movie took many many sessions to record because it's a lot more than twenty two minutes grid oh yeah and so we had come in several times to do his lines and he came in one week and he just was not feeling well as fact at the beginning of the session he said i was walk into the session and sit him down my arm sir sweet like grandpa and we'd sit down ask him how he was and he said put your ear next to my ear and so i just put my head right next to it and you with every heart beat you could hear wash wash his blood was rushing through his head with an audible whoosh it was crazy i said george how can you hear anything he said i'm having a hard time and i said well let's do it we can we don't have to finish all the recording today we'll do what we can and so- gordon gordon directed him and we could just tell it is energy was just not gonna match in or another line that he might have done a few weeks earlier we had to so gordon said george let's just send it home today when you're feeling better later in the week or next week bringing back in and finish up the work and so i called for his wife to come in from the waiting room and she came in and and suddenly i can paint at this picture for you gordon hunt is here george o'hanlon is here they're both in chairs looking my way nancy o'hanlon is standing a little bit off georgia's side suddenly georgia's head pitches forward lowered onto her chest and he has another stroke life they're voting studio nine one they were there in two minutes you guys johnson we were at hanna barbera old hanna barbera so thirty four hundred co-anchor west oak and saint joseph's hospital is very close by and they were there in a second and they took him over and we followed in cars and essentially they revived him so he essentially died in that recording session then they she she they had their spiritual shit together there and she said just keep in malaysia the kids can come by and then we'll let him go so giorgio him when kind of died in front of me which you know let me go that way doing what i all right and you know like i said with his life extended he probably would have died a few years earlier because he was he couldn't see he had nothing exactly nervous so but that's a that goes in the movie then gets made that being there that's the tearjerker the the the what do you call it when it's happy and sad sweet bitter that's very like my life ah let's try to get some of these questions apologize the life has been and is amazing and there's so tony stories there to tell it's it's it's kind of hard to direct it to certain questions when there's so many questions to be asked yeah so all right me since i oh you answer that okay all right let me directed them how did voice acting and directing become a path for you you you've had a you've had a winding path south up to that indeed the summarized version good i studied acting i want to be an actor i loved acting just thought it was incredibly cool my parents were very practical practical and said are you aware of and as i am but nothing else thrills me the way acting does so i went to undergraduate school for new york and then to graduate school at rutgers in new jersey and at that point i had switched to a theater history street just because i i i was in the acting program and still taking but my major was history which is a phenomenal way to look at civilization if you you can i mean some of our earliest written work are the place of escalates which talked about how life was then and so historically there just a fantastic way to find out what was going on now so you have to take you know keep in mind that there was satire and all but basically it tells you what was going on in the world so theater history and i i was very heavy the at this time this would have been like nineteen seventy nine hundred okay and i just you know college the food graham graham was exactly right and so i an and you know in new york and that part of the world you just put another couple layers of clothes goes on then come to california like oh wait it has to do exactly but what i learned to was at aside from the fact that people here are much more concerned about their health they just are in general and as shallow as it may be they're much more concerned about how we look because it is an industry of on camera it's all around in the city and i and you can exercise year round here without spending a lot of money you don't have to belong to a gym to be able to go work out on a treadmill you can just walk every day of the year or swim blood which are excellent exercises and both which i got majorly into and it took me about four years to take it all off but during that time i needed to work and i i contact one of my dear friends from for donor who was an agent at the enwright agency which is a theatrical agency doesn't exist anymore but he was an agent there and he called me up one day from los angeles i was living in san diego and he said come up for an interview there's a voiceover agents assistant who's been in a car accident and we'll be coming back to her job but they need a temp and just might be interesting for you to learn of their you know about correct yeah exactly so i showed up interviewed for this was don pitts was over agents so sweet such a sweet man i'm gonna move this microphone because i've pop now three times just like this popped thank you i forget they have the software breath that goes by is my level so good i just anyway anyway i i i came up in what was meant to be a two week temporary job replacing vanessa gilbert i ended up doing doing that work there for a year two years or so because vanessa decided not to come back a gilbert then became a pillar voiceover agent at both a TGI MD where she was a partner and now she's at isn't this terrible i can't think of worship but she's awesome wonderful agent and so i was there being an agents assistant assistant and then at maybe a four month into it the franchise me as an agent which was really cause a very short period of time i how is through january i fell into i loved it because i understood when actor said my performance is going to be better at two in the afternoon than it is going to be at nine o'clock by voice is going to be a better placement smith for those deeper trailers and stuff and i understood what it was like when they would say i need more than a half hour to travel from bayer to their find a parking space because i was still living in los angeles and the panic that an actor feels being league is a terrible feeling you don't ever want that to be the film going international for a job and so i fell into that in a very pleasant way and i think actors responded to me well because i was on their side and tried trying to help them do everything better get the material for them sooner get whatever they needed parking instructions and then also on the other side i understood what i just kind of fell into this too of understanding wouldn't advertising agency was looking for in they said this is what i want and so i got it and and i learned from john impaired and i learned from the booth director at that time there was like one booth director and every agency had their own now you know it's all different because everyone's got their own booth with at home oh yeah you know the the problem with that is if you're not a good self director and you could really use somebody else's you know listening adding to it and giving you some notes then you're it's not as good to have a home winter agent's office in actually audition there and let the dry director there but but for those who can self direct eric my goodness how convenient five auditions before you even like scupper gov remarkable so anyhow back to me aw i i was head hunted at a abrahams who was a very large agency they had frank welker and june foray in palm lintel and remarkable remarkable talent and probably three hundred often working voice over at that point that was a lot yeah and then a small boutique not cadence he reached out to me because they had a very strong on camera commercial department and and most voiceover agencies are located in a commercial agency and so they very strong on camera department but no voice over department and that meant that their clients had to go out to other agencies to get their voice over activity and those other agencies would want to sign them across the board so they were losing clients so special artists said we need a voiceover agent so i went over and started their voice over for department and brought some people over from from from abrahams who are willing to come over and then just really built up the people that were already there as on camera more people but they needed to learn voice over some times i had to send them to workshops and just go you've got the potential but i don't have the time here in a simple addition to i've got ten more people waiting after you it to actually teach you how to do voice over and so i would do that or some just had a good instinct for it and you know commercial voice over directing that enacting for it is has has the same kind of requirements that theatrical voice over does which is who you're talking to what is the most important word in that sentence don't swallow the product that actually being the most important word and and you know how do you feel about this product you this is the best skin cream even if you're announcing you have to believe that you have to have an opinion so that was kind of fun i think for the clients to have somebody actually directing them that way as an actor it's not just a voice but as an actor and then i was a special orders for maybe a couple of years exactly IMDB MGB or something that can actually track it down that way and then i was reached out to by jimmy mix wayne and hanna barbera she was the casting director there and it's so oh dear because i she invited me when i was working with her she would call me to for me to submit people to her and she was great she would see my people very very kind and she invited me to come watch sessions and okay i would go and watch them sessions of just when especially when i had a client on when i would go and watch frank walker and paul reubens who was doing oh man this is before peewee the and all these wonderful people and and then she's called me and said i'm going to leave hanna-barbera and i'm going to go to marvel this was a time when cartoons which is blowing up they were essentially twenty two commercials sons of this right exactly right end muppet babies and everything pink m signing the top exactly right and so there was so much work that they needed a lot of voice directors out there ginny was gonna leave hanna barbera to become a voice director which is perfectly understandable and so she called me and said you know i'm going i want to speak to you specifically entire USA got who's cook going to be replacing you because you've been so generous to me and you see my client she said we don't know yet we're seeing a couple of people and the next day she called me and said andrea are you interested would you an typical cartoon style i oh my phone was left spinning in the air right dash rushed hanna barbera the flintstone together and and met with gordon hunter hired met before it when i came in and just watched some episodes and they hired me the next day and i gave my notice the special artists and left facial thereafter and started right at hanna-barbera and it was heaven it was heaven and attleboro has been accused of being a factory and it was it was a factory that the cartoons but they made some of the best cartoons scooby doo is still being me oh yeah it's just i know and then shows like you talk to people about what shows they think of as i in their youth whether it was smurfs or the super friends which was different series than any of the superhero series arizona's worked on or any of those shows that were you instrumental in their lives they think about the main title sound of quick draw mcgraw or wally gator was a good one yes bob louis which they talked about making remaking that show and there was just absolutely no bob louis oh rogatory way hispanic so much stuttering characters we couldn't do stuttering characters we didn't it wasn't meant and to be that way but now we're in a sensible didn't think i didn't there was no malice intended it was all in good fun it was all making fun and of of course you know here we are in los angeles and their the mexican dear friends are right there in mexico and so it was easy to access those accents and this always my example about how what a genius mel blanc was watch a speedy gonzales cartoon he is every mexican accented mouse in that cartoon and and they all sound completely different ones more nasal ones pitched higher ones lower ones raspy or once fat sounding they're all they all have the same hispanic accent the mexican specific right right there was actually a time warner brothers tried to retire a speedy gonzales because they thought it was offensive but the hispanic community was like no we oh we like speeding at times even be friends was like yeah that's the kind of exit from the inner city from the outer city and i was like oh there's different kinds of things i think of it like new york and california like speak very differently the the town of barra for i left there in nineteen eighty nine when many of my friends who were their executives and producers and stuff left to form warner brothers tv automation didn't exist and just before that i had been reached out to by someone from an advertising agency leo burnett advertising who was had been a i've worked with him when i was an agent often submitting actors to him for various commercials here's working on he left there to form disney tv animation so this is like one thousand nine hundred eighty six eighty around offer that it was so cool just happened to be alive and in the business during those times when expanding and so they asked me to come into ducktail which was really cool i did the first doctor who you say that yeah who and did that for i forget however many years we did that is fantastic and then the warner brothers team went over and they let me stay at hanna barbera and deductibles but when warner brothers i i think there was such an exodus of hanna-barbera employees going over to form that they were like none that's one two many you can't do them and you have to leave hanna barbera and that was scary because all ahead was one series tiny toon adventures but there was this guy that was executive producer steven spielberg i can take a chance with him taylor and so that was absolutely joyce hard hard work hard i mean literally i went over to the building that we were in which was the sherman oaks galleria sepulveda's and yeah and we had it was an office building it was not an animation studio per se and my my office clause of course in the hallway where all the editors were so there were no windows because they needed soundproof rooms to do the editor and i worked for the i i don't know two three months overturned box with a paper rolodex because that's what we had we didn't have computers yet and a telephone that was it that's what i had to work to cast tiny chance and you make magic out of it and we did too it was fantastic it was kinda thing of you know invention is whatever you have around you you make it work which breeds it's creativity that's it so i could overturn boxes all i need it really you know and and a yellow pad and pencil has storage you could he was playing screen i could listen to additions that was always cool without annoying everybody tell you guys for these first few few series for warner brothers i auditioned hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of people for every new project only i was listening to tapes all hours of the day and night right and i had to have some volume because you need to hear everyone performance actually doing and so then that could be devastating to an editor whose neck i don't need to hear here anymore people say that same copy and so it was kind of nice to be in that kind of sound area but we made an maniacs pink in the brain and then after those kind of very cartoony cartoons bruce timm who had been on tiny tools or enemy next i forget which one worked on i together story board artist he came to me and i i lucked out because i don't think he knew any other voice directors i was only one he'd had ever been really aware of and walk up to my office so grateful he knew the right one well we learned so much together and oh oh my god yes that's an absolute encyclopedia of all things DC and marvel and everything i mean he just and was very very very willing to share it to a woman which is a different you know i can what i what i wanted very specifically in work nuns and one of the reasons i said yes i wanted to do who it was i wanted to make it a cartoon series that was did you hear that that was my stomach i wanted to make it accessible two women i wanted it to be a series that women wanted to watch i wanted it to be sexy i wanted it to be something that women could relate to that it wasn't just fight fight fight fight eighteen i loved the idea that they wanted to make a dark that it wasn't going to be the adam west batman where it was the only one i was familiar with girls during the time when i was growing up we didn't read batman cartoons we didn't read superhero comic books we read if we read comic books archie in you know again betty and we watched so you know the things were were romance comics where the women's tears many of us did not and so i needed that help from all those guys that at new but it was paul dini or bruce timm or you know any of the writers bob goodman are these guys that just literally encyclopedia they knew it so well and especially i would help when i was casting something that was the first time somebody like red tornado would show and then go i need just a quick who were origin what how where where does he fit yeah exactly and so then and is he is a one shot or we're going to see him in this one episode never hear from him or we're going to in the next twenty episodes would mean a little bit more it does because the way the screen actors guild pays for cartoons voice acting essentially you get three voices for one price so i bring an actor infra scale and they do three voices for me so versity is excellent it really benefits the actor they get much more chances for work so in an instance where there was gonna be a red tornado who's going to have four four lines in one episode we never see again that would probably be a role i would give to somebody who's already going to be there and just have them to a slightly different voice for that character if it's going to be carotids gonna show up for the next twenty episodes is likely i'd cast it and find someone new out there but i've got on my list of people i want to bring you or i i had auditioned for the justice league let's say and they didn't get a role but i want to keep them in mind because they were second tories three roles and they're just that good and they deserve a chance hansen so trying to bring in as many different people and give them a chance and what was so lovely as after time after which is working long enough agents knew from their clients coming back and saying it's fun an andrea romano animated session and all of them weren't fun but the i tried that was a big part of my job is to make it a very pleasant experience for everybody in the room that it was like a party that was like this where we sit and rap and chat and talk and have fun and tell stories and then get the work done to write you know and you do it in a way that people don't feel like they're being you don't want to take the fun out of it connector background that you have you gotta make sure that they're in the right mind space to give the performance as -solutely to intimidate an act or to make them feel bad is not going to get to a better performance the actors are so sensitive and that's what i love i love that actors are sensitive because that's why we hire actors we don't hire technicians we want that sensitivity we want i want you to have access to your emotions the soldiers fill it out on your screen quickly there's not it's kind of end result acting with some actors have a hard time with with because we don't have all that rehearsal doing you're doing a play you have to get to that point age within like two three takes and if you don't i'm gonna take you there myself a trick because i didn't ever like an actor to know that they were being line read but the actor would say we are not going being there as a nagy ten times have used to have to kevin conroy batman his stomach used to make so much noise that we would have a belly ho for him to out who recorded because it was really good the next time you say show we actually had kevin on the show and you know you talking about like meeting somebody we all lost took off season is any the coolest so dear i love him so he has a wonderful apartment in new york east got this little guest accommodation next to admit whenever i stayed i stayed there as the back came available in this weekend i want to ask a question you talked about creating an atmosphere i fear that that felt you know open in front of getting the work done but making sure that everyone's having a good time and anywhere online you look you look under everyone up you see that you are kind of the champion being of making sure everyone's recording as a group setting rather than the sole person in the booth fish what what made you kind of push that approach there are several reasons artistically tickly it makes sense when i heard it artistically it makes sense because half of acting is reacting so you asked me a question and i'm going to respond based on the way you asked if you had said what made you do that i would respond in a different way right and so that's a really fun way to get real real acting and reacting the other thing is practical wise it makes great sense because i can i rehearse a scene i i run the scene let's do a little will different next time we run the scene the second time we know that in there for it worked right right and maybe pick up from you and a pickup from you and and then covered if i have to record you separately ali i have to remember what you did just before what you might do at doors because you're not recorded yet either but you're not in the same session as her and so i have to get maybe five six seven more takes for every single line just to make sure i can cover because maybe you were speaking about at this level and she's now speaking at this level and you don't sound like you're same room mm together having a conversation so practicality wise it makes great sense and actors like it more they do they like it and every once yeah well when a feature has had the opportunity to get a couple of actors together like oh this is so much better and i think why it's not done and i'm not trying to cast aspersions john's on the current crew of voice directors ray but a lot of the mer untrained they aren't from the acting field and they're really just somehow thrust into that position and for them to handle six actors and actors are wonderful and crazy and children and you have to hurt them and get in the room all the wrangler and exactly and then there's an engineer and a second engineer and then there's maybe certain and the client and maybe there's all these other and you've got to there's a guy keeping a log august and you've got to make sure everybody is getting there well that's right what they need and so that's hard for someone who doesn't have a lot of experience and i'm convinced that i was pretty good at that because i come from a family of eight kids know they're just just navigating the dinner table was the cheerleading was also a good training ground for you know and so there was a a a sense of togetherness and and would also would happen that was really cool is people would say could we have a whole other idea about that little tiny exchange between us to can we do that again just the two of us when that's absolutely and what was so great about that is smart people actors what experience would just can we can we i got an idea and they were dive in people haven't would say i i kind of have this idea that if we were to the description takes five minutes to run the scene would have just take thirty seconds so just run the DMZ flakes just do it don't tell me about it you don't have to convince me if you have an idea i'm delighted here gopher dive in if it doesn't work and and you never wanna tell an actor no oh right now i mean it wasn't really my vocabulary even if actor gave a horrible read the first words out of my mouth was good okay let's try another one because you want to always always make the actor feel like they're on the right path at least and then you direct them where and i was talking before about how you give a line reading which is it is okay so you're line is we've gotta get over there and you're not frustrated enough a little bit more we've got to get over there now you gotta go tennis bigger we've got to get over and then i'll just go eco me you gotta get over there and then right away they would just do it that second gotta get over there so they're literally echoing right so they bring it right up to where i am and they don't even wasn't trying to trick them but it was just a way for them to to know don't be embarrassed to go gently and so if they have to build to it that's fine and then just move right on and then they don't go oh wow i was just lying mad at a lot of like the improv of like yes and right you're you yes and them building them up to that that's right because you can start an improv scene and have it be kind of stiff everybody's ooh but that can become something wonderful if you keep encouraging correct yeah encouraging that's always encouraged tara strong actually spoke about it and they'll say like how the voice over industry is like i said a vacuum without you because she was saying how like there's a lot of voice directors who like you said are not experienced in that and they will just do line read after land after landry and the acting out of it definitely could use a technician instead of an acura it comes to where you cast a people people and then they get involved they don't say yes that they're not they don't want to do and so they will get invested in the character like i don't think the character at this point would say that way but then if you're directing and saying like just say it that way it takes it to the why am i even here right or or giving the actor a chance to you know and that's something that i always say especially at the end of an audition was is there anything i didn't let oh you do that you wanted to do because the worst is to have an actor drive home going and i had one more taken ask for that would have been i have no opportunity for weeks well here the person who got the job my idea so i always give that one last is there anything you didn't get to do that you want because i was an actor too and i want them to be but there's been some very interesting in moments of i always walk actor up to the microphone when this first time i'm working with them because i want them to know that i'm just a with a good separation that glass does does create a bit of a tariff i would prefer to be in the room at the actor but i make too much noise brow on the other side of the glasses it's a total ooh and i always try to tell people they're probably throwing the brow about law it has nothing performance but i i i i liked walking actors ups the microphone sometimes i had to record on a saturday or sunday because of the actor's availability celebrities often and i remember watching weeds leads during the show and the young actor alexander gould alexander who this right and he was so wonderful i loved his work so much i i wanted to have him come in and play and one of the moves we're making jimmy olsen because he was just the right age his voice had just cracked still cracked a little bit and i liked that it was right for the missile quality exactly and so a saturday requires recording him and john noble noble is gonna play brainiac for me and so i bring alexandra thank alexandre okay thank you very much i bring them up and i set him up and thank you for calling on saturday i'm so glad to get you a huge fan you work on the show and you've done voice over four right and he looks at me with those big beautiful eyes and he says name oh oh my god i'm sorry i'm such an idiot of course i knew that but i just hadn't put it together in that moment that saturday morning and i'm like i i've lost credit credit credibility because is i work so much in nemo your killer good but it was just one of those things where you think you got it all together yeah well so you got it i'm just gonna slate you and you just go right straight myself out no i'm an idiot and i'm i'm sorry you have a question while you were talking about how you bring the actress together for the recording session and i know even having everybody in the same room you know we're talking about like people coming in with their problems from the day give any specific techniques to use to kind of like like break the ice yeah get everybody like doc in the energy that you want him to be in belly baffle sorry pick it up breakfast and everything they always plays the i always play this game which is especially if you're sitting around waiting for one last actor you don't want that actor to feel bad but he walks in the room because he's a few minutes slate and i know i i if anybody's more than ten minutes late towards twice i give them a really hard time really what you're holding up all the better here it's not just going to wait for looking don't believe don't be rude you could be late once there could be the problem but such a clock earlier do whatever you do don't be late and so but i would when you're waiting for the doctor when you're out things like okay my guilty pleasure is undercover boss that's what's yours and then everybody starts talking about what their particular favorite gilligan down walls and like shown a piece of themselves that and just silly conversation nothing to do with anything it's not important there they forget about the fact that they just got a dentist bill that's two thousand dollars and how the hell are they gonna pay instead of thinking about some other silly what do i watch embarrassed to tell people about oh yeah i watch throats or whatever but you there's some of those really trashy and so that and then when that last person does walk in and go okay what's your the question of the day was what you're those kinds it's a silly questions right into their heads exactly we'll piggyback because we're just sharing our just a family family doing and fund things and having a good time that's right other questions i would say is things like okay when i was a kid my rockstar was roger daltry i was desperately in lowest roger daltrey of the who i wanted him to be and so i went around the room who was your rockstar you know people were about your age range so they're mentioning some people i don't even know young young new singers singers and stuff and my favorite thing was oh when the girl is nickelodeon and shannon was sitting next to me she was taken the luggage as a casting director and she's wonderful and lovely and just before i let excuse accuse me let everybody else give their opinion i said mine was roger daltry and she said i don't know who that is and i had to give her the reference of the CSI and then in order for her to know who roger dot okay i know that is now talk doesn't know and so we're not gonna get into that place now with the next generation we say cassettes you know you look at us with a smile some writings excuse me i was wave without a smartphone they've never they always have had all that information at their fingertips so there's like videos goes online with kids who they'll put three kids in a room and give them a rotary phone and tell them all this phone number and they they'll give you fifty dollars you can do it they don't figure it out i had that experience i was working at a music store in this kid had just gotten out of a lesson and his phone had died and i was like you can use our for do you know your mom's numbered he's a guy as you can use our phone and he picked it up and i hear behind grind migos call mom oh thailand or icy this little kid a toddler none i mean not even walking yet with an ipad no sorry with a magazine pressing on trying to isn't that we typically technology wise in the last you know few decades massive like just couple has been last decade decade it's been insane truly the advancements are rim does translate to voice over as well as the so in the voice over world since you retired hired what are the changes that you've noticed for for the roma voice over technology how has that changed things hasn't changed performances have you heard that interested they wish i you know i think most of the stuff that i found as useful tools for me at that time when retiring they were there they were in place for for example when i just show called rescue rangers disney show it's lives and their sped voices and so back then reporting awarding on reel to reel now we're going back and the we would have to slow the tape down right right if d percent we cord the actors acting like this and then bring it back up to speed have to listen to the whole whole thing to make sure we had clarity and that it didn't sound like actors acting like oh and then go back and do pick up the same way slowing down again recording the pickups going going by so but now we can do that without in the booth right instantly and we don't have to worry about changing the speed as far as how fast the tape is running through and and and how the the timing will you know it's going to change the timing we go back and do a DR because the tape was actually being sped i mean it was actually link up anymore when we see but i mean the the talent and discipline to that having to you know again again it's restriction breeds creativity where it's like hey this is what we got so you get really good at doing one thing and then once you have the tools wants the technology gets there then it's like oh now we can run a ten thousand miles is power versus like tap people who are like oh i have the great technology but i don't have any of the discipline or any talent so they're kind of i don't want to be rude but it's kind of just wasting the potential a little bit i remember when i was in film school like learning every single editing system so go figure out my own like i like this i know how the industry does it and i see this one yeah i like this one because it works better for my brain right right right so i think that learning all those is key is learning all like studying acting roshan study with as many people as you can and nobody is going to be perfect for you but you're gonna pull five techniques from that guy in three from that woman and to from here and you're going to go now it's my technique because i've cobbled it together to make it we'll hot how my brain interprets looking at that's right and what works for somebody else does not work for me i can't get there and we talked before about needing to do things he's like cry on cue or laugh on cue at nine o'clock in the morning which is hard to do really hard to do and that's like a real skill that you have to learn how to make that happen and you find what technique it is is it actually thinking of something incredibly funny or is it just you have technically figured out how to make yourself laugh and and what i would do in a group when a person having hard time with that early morning laugh pardon me was i'd make everybody everybody in the left everybody in the room left so let's do that together together i know let who knows everybody helps everybody lifts you up to that laugh and then you can do a little side comment that we were all directed by andrea ah jerry i can't afford i actually kinda wanna speak to like your experience with acting eh corrina we both have feeder backgrounds i went to college for theater arts you did stage shows during your time in manhattan did you have any particular shows characters offers that stuck with you or stood out as your favorites you know i have a manhattan story that i want to tell you but i i want to go back to graduate school at rutgers rutgers i did a show called uncommon women and others and that was written by a playwright named escape me right now i'd go for you guys others she passed away recently she had a great play on broadway wonderful woman and it's important because i want to actually mention her in the story fast you are calling him and others yes uh i'm sorry i'm not fast enough we need to get a five year old finding new magazines wendy wasserstein ah grade over technology horrific playwright very successful had four major place that she wrote and when she passed away young a young woman but was so cool at rutgers was uncommon women this is all about these students at one of the seven sister schools i forget which one it was not holyoke or something and and it was her it was an autobiographical play and her character's name was holly and i was playing that character and she came and was onsite as a resident it was fantastic mastic that was so wonderful it was a magnificent experience to be able to not just have the playwright explain what she was talking about was she she wanted to get across in her play but what was she feeling as a as a person in this scenario that we were right fantastic wonderful but as far as new york one of the only things i did not remember i was two hundred pounds five foot tall italian jew from eastern long island not that many roles written for you right although i did go out on a lot of auditions stuff there was only one play that i was actually doing in new york and it was called murat is its common name it's that incredibly long name about the incarceration and blah blah blah blah and it was a very kind of experimental project and we were rehearsing thing in this you know manhattan has some funky ass place where kinds of independent doing this this in this club and i use that term very loosely downstairs in the basement and just moving at these kind of machines and than the occasional chain and we're stuffing and the need to always be out by ten PM we had to be out by ten by ten pm because birded into a and they did not like women in that space so we had to get the heck out of there before own before we find okay i get it i have no problem with that i come one night from post nine forty five come up and exiting the place i heure these whistle whistle exports whistles latin lots of what the hell an open door and there's all these bright lights and cameras and police leased barriers and people about what how and it was the set of the albertino movie cruising we're going to shoot in that basement and where i was rehearsing that play the murad but they were protesters protesting because it was so weird because they were protesting how they thought this section of society eddie was being depicted do you have access to the script why are you assuming that this is a negative these people and in fact was not there there was a murderer and there was a part of it was going into that world but but it was so today today's time with us but but that oh so interesting to be come out of that so you have any memories of my manhattan theatrical experience party was the movie which is a terrific rid of movie fantasy that cruising and then i watched as they show the scene in the staircase going down into the the scene inside that place and terrible things things took place in there i i quit that play after that it was it was falling apart anyhow it was it was weird i had chosen to play a character who had who had gone blind because it takes place inside a sanitarium everybody's everybody's got out on this it's nice light comedy our friend of mine who was working with me and i forget what she picked her infirmity and stuff but she was like her job was to take care of me and then one point i remember during the rehearsals i forget what i did put put a rag around my eyes or something that made me blind and i remember her grabbing me and pulling me away and i'm blind i can't say that and we're rehearsing we finished the scene of him what because there's one one guy who's deciding to become naked around you because you're playing a blind character and he's just placing his parts close by that when you're trying to find a chair or a wall you're gonna end having to the touch him i'm like okay great done thank you very much i know not wild and then i made the smurfs ah for completely inspire is crazy goodness in the same vein i mean with your acting experience i know that you have done a few voices as well when you were doing those voices did you ever get like did it satiate that theater bugging you did it ever make you go oh i really wish trek no say shield it did it was it wasn't that i missed acting because i always felt that my directing thinks style allowed me to act especially because it comes to the point to do when you're in it i am and i oftentimes there's actors have to be recorded by by themselves or an actor missing and i would take that part and just act with the actor so they had slid off so i and i also felt like i'd love actors i love actors i love what they go through i love the sacrifices they have to make to do what brings them the most pleasure and and so i have this wonderful side of sort of connection with actors and and and i didn't know that i missed it until i started doing it again and and i i loved being the voice of the batmobile that made that was joyous and one of the things are always loved trust mcneil the best but when it would be things like eight one eight nine nine nine five to four i love doing that kind of stuff and so showed up in many cartoons during that kind of thing whether it whatever robert is the computer or talking to real something mitzi i taught a workshop in down in atlanta and in and i was the keynote speaker and i gave private class to ten students and she was one of them susan bennett was her name and she was always always going to be the original series siri so i don't know what that meant whether she was replaced early on in the last few years okay let's you talked about months and months and months recording words and phrases and wild yes very cool good those are the i i think so that they can get the right vowel right and things that would flow from one thing to the next and all those options and the voices of things that we use on a daily basis it's always so interesting to mercy somewhere yeah yes somebody got that gig right exactly the talking gas pump tells you oh the there's so much when i was teaching to this in the mid eighties i remember make creating a list of options for voice work work and as i began to write what god there's just a ton of stuff in there was a talking watch or you know industrial exactly right autumn attention yes industrial films when you first start working at wellsfargo never sit in a room with all that kind of stuff we're me corporate training all that kind of stuff so and medical film sold like when a new drug has come on the market and they're trying to picture to doctors and they create this film and you have to learn take those incredibly long medical terms and pronounce them properly and were very very good at that stuff and some people just have and so you'd find those is that were really good the audition copy would come in and go i know the five people come in and read for this and someone else will go all please please i have done this with you five times and let me play play for you the guy that does it well not insulting there's going to listen to what they do and then applied and they go oh okay i get it wasn't just saying no you can't can't do it was l- let me show you why you're not as good as this guy even within this agency yeah there's somebody else who can do it better than you right so i don't wanna make you look bad ever i always want you that'd be the best person for the job that i'm meeting well there's there's there's so many because there's so many avenues to go down until you go on that avenue you don't know if you're good or bad correct if to try the time but but hearing it i'm sure was like the actors should feel like they know how to do it right they should go in with that attitude and then and keep working if it's not the best yet keep working at it until you feel i guess i now i do that competitively with the other people who do that kind of like a witch roy's everybody they can do margaret hamilton what's your turn on it that's different what's your take that's completely different an e may start with the margaret hamilton which but then go somewhere else and make make that go higher go lower maker give it more texture worth is waiting goal tac there's i'm sure i'm sure they're just used to hearing like sorry we we want somebody l. site that's the end of it no i want them to know always do i always made it clear to agents if they wanted to find out why that actor didn't get it i would have i would find time to tell them why and sometimes it's a crap shoot a lot of people don't do anymore no i know you didn't you know and that's i think that's a key learning point is why and sometimes there is no really good answer at two why you didn't get it could've been you know there have been times when i was casting and i would submit to gordon hunt and i'd say there's this guy in this guy in this guy and he go any of those three am oklahoma we decided and then i would look and go you know what i know that he needs one more payment under sag to make his health insurance give him that how war i know that this guy needs an ego boost to his wife left him and he needs something i try to be a person about it too especially when there was is three people who could equally do the job was not like these guys a little bit better if that goes a little bit better i'm gonna hire that guy and that's part of the celebrity thing that's happened is i always fought for the best actor if it happened to be the celebrity would fight for the celebrity if it happened to be a rank and file voice actor i wanted to hire that guy why would fight for because i don't believe that the audience silence either watches a show on TV or streaming or goes in rents a DVD do they even do that anymore yes because there's a celebrity in it that's not why the goes mom no don't get that one is though celebrities in it they you don't think it's a project and the voices do a good job it will get a reputation and it will do well and people will want to see it if it's a celebrity liberty for celebrity sake and they are not the best person it's probably going to thank you spend some money on that celebrity probably and celebrities not going to feel good about it and not gonna wanna come back and play again and that always bothered me that people would and what happened even worse is as people as twitter became famous they would say we need somebody who who has a twitter following of more than fifty and that's not the criterion for me i don't care if they're not a good actor i don't care if they have one hundred thousand you you one hundred million followers i want the best actor on the peace and i would fight sometimes they win that fight sometimes i wouldn't but there have been times when i had to hire someone who was not the best person in the other thing that was so weird about it was it's not a contractual thing it they don't ever say you must tweet this job out that we're hiring you which which made no sense to me why the cloud by being on the facts of the celebrity the person will wants wants to see the name on the post story and they will tweet about it they don't have to there's a in all arenas interview with sophie turner she talked about she's in game game of thrones she said she's like the girl who edition it was down to me and her was a far better actor than i was but i had more instrument and they told her that they're like you got it because you're alanon climate but in a weird pivot way actually wanna talk about dark knight returns and how peter weller was an instant of conroy and it wasn't a celebrity thing it was an i believe you said it was like you wanted a different gravelled voice for an older older bruce wayne campbell older person yea interational is the defining line for me where it's like it's not a celebrity thing it's not like a contractual thing is based on the story stories what should matter hollywood and hollywood doing on broadway to you how many followers are followers do you have is actually permeating most entertainment pheromones everything is there is a minimum follower requirement to even auditioned in the first place so glad that that this is not like i'm out of my career already because i have no social your presence as far as i don't have facebook account i don't have a twitter following i don't remember always keeps asking me why don't why do i could barely get through my three email accounts yeah different ones and my voice messages and my texts was enough other stuff and i do remember way back when i also don't play video thanks very much because i remember way back when nintendo first came out with super mario by playing playing playing on going three thirty in the morning it's such an addictive personality i can't do that because i have too much work to do so i let work addiction but it was for years joyous addiction i i was a workaholic in the throws of my addiction and i you know there's one point i remember when someone says how many projects are you working on me and i looked at the mall because they were all in production at one at one phase or another eighty are might have been initial casting whatever else doing eleven project which is just excessive it sure greed work on all the good shows because they were all coming out same as you did it was land before time all all his pinky and the brain it was batman neom there was so many that overlapped you know many years into production someone just beginning but i wanted to do them all because they we're all good and all different than all interesting and you'll you sign up for a project and you have no idea how long it's going to go they may get the plug pulled before you even finish the initial order it it may do that first thirteen and that's it it may go on for years and years and you make over a hundred episodes or whatever and so then you've already kind of planned to you wanted to do work for somebody else and they finally have a project come to you like yes i said i would and it's here and yes i'm still doing that other project i didn't think it would chill and so then they start art so i learned how to exist on like four hours sleep but that's that's kind of the dream in a way too it was my dream certainly there it was it was it was heaven speaking about like you know now in retirement and if you can tell where my shirt all the DC out kid you know i don't think there's a property that you touch that was like yeah that's i i was i was subscribed i was addicted to that was my addiction i was like it's two more hours how how often do you hear director of other show runners producers from different studios asking you to come back i have been made a couple of offers it's a lovely it's very lovely and you know when i still so many of those people are my friends so we're in conrad anyway and they all tell me they miss me in the industry is different you could put somebody did reach out to me about a project that i signed an NDA so i can't say but it it was a very interesting project and extremely difficult and absolute something that could do well i was i knew i was the person for the job and as it was somebody i worked with at the very beginning of both of our careers and i loved her and i wanted to do another project with her at all these years later and i said to her right the very beginning of our conversations about it i said i it's going to have to be enough money to make me feel foolish if i don't take it and it's got that much about you idiot you're never gonna get offered the job and it was interesting to me so this is the first thing is does the job interests me does a project interest me do i have the stamina for where it's gonna take because this is going to be a really complex complex peace time investment in a lot you put your soul into it using do i don't ever sign up for project that i'm not gonna put myself into it and then we had many meetings and we talked about it and i came up with a bunch of ways to help them improve the process they were trying to do and they were kind of put the cart before the horse and they were going to make it harder for themselves later on down line i get them all ideas and and also said if for some reason it doesn't work out here's five other directors that you should look at because they're all good people and i said no ego i'm the best person for this job i know i am i have the most experience that's just plain simple years right and then i went away for a vacation and i came back and they said okay we get back into it and we want you to start casting on it even though we're not gonna go to production for another six months but we want to get it going fine we don't have a deal in place here andre okay i had told them exactly what i wanted in that first conversation and they didn't blink and then just hit list negotiate so you you want a procession you want it and i said i don't want to negotiate with you i was trying to save you time from the gecko because i wasn't messing around i was like ah this is what you'd have to pay otherwise and i was able to tell it because i know her so well for so many years i was able to say if you can't pay me that much if i don't know that that's going to be the paycheck for this job when things get really tough which they will be very hard production and there's going to be times when it's hard when we reach those points i'm going to be so angry with you for not paying me what i know i'm due to do that hard were and that will affect our personal relationship as well and i don't want that to happen so so your your call i i i see those other five people which they did there's on facebook there's a social media group where like so i- lake in myself a director director and writer and all that stuff but i'm part of it and like the one top line thing says like pay all paid work and it's like not like hey you're paying scale you're paying like all the money oh you have because you have the budget deal but you're respecting the time respecting the talent you're expecting them like the actors like you said like loving them that they're going to get involved in invested in their characters and then going out there and spending their time do it because you know it isn't for the money but it is kind of like hey like we all have to manage time wisely so it's really interesting drink point to the other thing about having the altogether an and making them feel like they're part of this thing we're doing together is there's always conflicts timewise somebody else wants you the same time i want you but if this experience is good enough i bet book i position meaning the are going to want to come to this one and then the other show is gonna have to pay and that's good for me that works for me because then we get to play together and and you know it's make that comparison essay play because has we gotta have fun we're not having fun making cartoons we are doing so her even if it's a really intense red hood you know old movies yeah it still has to have we have to have fun making it and there's got to be those wonderful moments of breaking the tension because it gets really ten no yeah i remember this one scene we were doing and it was one of those friday fight fight fight scenes skin beat adam firefight and he ends up going over this fallen well enough bridge to his death essentially but we couldn't always kill everybody kind of leave it questionable sure nobody nobody nobody we have what we call keep alive groans so when the the character was knocked unconscious would be laying on the ground so we love those a lot of all them but this one was just like room was really ten somebody come in and it was fighting it was something going on in the room that was uncomfortable and so i'm sorry this actor and he wasn't really good at that kind of thing standing very cartoony what he was doing and we need a little break icebreaker there and so as guys looking at it at the character is falling he's wearing a cap and the cat falls off and it falls into the water so the guy disappears and then the cap hits water and so i said here's what you need to do echo may do it like this this broke up laughing finding fuelling out the room and having fun even though it's a really intense piece that you're working on a firm believer that that stuff comes through in indian product people can tell if you enjoyed yourself if you didn't making something and it can feel that you're trying to talk with you on that absolutely i think that if a cartoon if say even just a let's say a the thirty seconds sequence if you guys had to record it over and over and over eating you up and you're not getting it in this in this i think i think that will come through i do think that the you may not understand what it is when you're watching it but they'll be an unpleasant feeling as you watched that going for that scene doesn't feel good when you're a kid you you sent it you can't articulate it maybe but it's it's there as well emotionally excite boy that felt that approach because i think you hear a lot of horror stories on live live film where it's like the directors like slapping actors doing all these things into a negative space where your approach and i subscribed to it to where it's you can always get a better thing out of positive experience because people are more in lake encouraged backlash from national i'm an actor you don't have to treat me like an man right but you're right when they do things like telecasted that the dog just died together good match a way to get these in a positive therapeutic absolute awesome i love working with the sound of a voice i love their breathing in the middle of the way the old pronounce a word completely wrong and then all of a sudden we all have to start pronouncing it that way because it's so oh cool loops where there and then they're saying it's so cool it's really nice thing for a female actor to who is going to be doing kid voices because there's work for them to pick up on those kinds of things and wonderful all right we did a whole cartoon brandy beeman it was called and i think that was part of what tiny toons are remember and it was a little kid who come on the road okay okay okay okay so one time this kid went over to the school and you this okay by amazon that's it i was exactly the way he was a young kid but he was probably twelve thirteen years old but he was acting five or six years old one of those really useful kids out perfectly and that's the ideal an older kid who sounds like a younger king because you can direct them more they make they have a little more to last the dating world where because i've always young but i'd like to actually move to the next part of our show that's something that you're you're a fan of but i do have one it's a personal question i'm sorry i grew up in san diego oh cool what part of town did you live in powei oh i have a half brother who lived down there that's why and he very kindly one day called me up knowing that the winter's coming back east and said there's one hundred dollar flight from JFK to LAX and if you wanna come and stay with me he was kind of repaying us a call him a half brother he was my oldest brother's best friend live with the family for years i got it was his way to repay our family was by allowing me to live so sweet and so within two weeks packed my life up in my mom's attic in stony brook long island and then moved to san diego with no job possibility no nothing and live down there for probably half a year before assistant loved loved san diego still love san diego it's gorgeous it has a reputation of it had a reputation of being either retired or military but come come to find out this a much more vibrant useful life there than i think comic con has been a major force in that each has be people from all of the world young people from of the world have gone there when it's beautiful it's gorgeous yeah and they're so smart and i hope they never move comecon from god they talk about other places they talked about vegas where could facilitate such a big you know the the place i can think of chicago and that's not the same thing either at all but it's a beautiful city in that would also couldn't wear them as god i just got back and he's just meritas abbott san diego beautiful beautiful beautiful where where did you live in san diego all over the place it was like yeah pine valley okay which is way not saying how when i moved there was really one horse town it was tiny and nothing and now it's kind of it's big and it's it's unfortunately no now because of the tar suit that took place in the synagogue down there but it's a it's a neat place and they have rodeo days every year it's a big cowboy down there and i'm not a cowgirl in any wait but it was just kind of have something on that so next part of our show what we do is we like to talk to our guests about something that they are a fan of and in asking you what your favorite movie was you said it was separate ways romeo and juliet from nineteen sixty which success this is my favorite version of aw i never watched this i've only seen romeo plus juliet and i always laughed at i've seen missiles like oh i understand is supposed to i watched it forty four are you disappoint no no we've never disappointed it's a stunning movie it's and it was exactly at the time a sixty eight i would've been thirteen years old so it was one of the first depictions of romeo and juliet at the proper aid because they always were depicted here is much older actors adults adult adults and not even like your whole didn't make a lot of sense but i remember for a young child learned to read really early because a lot of older brothers and sisters in reading was a really cool thing and i remember that my local library had a book that took shakespeare your plays and they made a pros from the poetry every once in a while they would include a couplet or a section of the play in its poetic form and it it so moved me and it's so touched me and i remember reading a thousand times o. happy dagger this is thy sheath chief there rust and let me die and weeping every time i would read it just weeping weeping we've been thinking about a thirteen year old girl a girl my age so in love with someone who is now dead at her feet being so desperate that she would take a sword and kill herself and it would make require every single time that particular film and we all have seen and read many different reputations on that particular play store west side story or whatever and you kind of new interpretation romeo plus julie at all that kind of stuff and what's what's the most interesting things to me is the interpretation of the text as in what are you going to cut because it's such a young is end liberty it's hard to get a contemporary audience to sit through the whole thing start to finish or your uncut and so i think rallies caught was brilliant i think he took out some of the fat i think took out some of the poetry which is gorgeous and should be taught taught and learned and people should be aware of but as far as a live performance or a film performance it doesn't help move the story along it's just beautiful poet you're right it doesn't isn't move and that's what we've learned in drama these days is it has to move it has to move forward and these things don't move forward i was sad that he chose to cut but i told understood understood the friars speech when i say we marry us and that's a beautiful soliloquy that wonderful because he's picking the likes to put little friars in there and they just say like the heavy military yeah and you're like get like you said it doesn't exactly it makes it very hard for the actor because they're basically spouting gorgeous words they themselves have to find out why are they saying shorts why am i standing in this field picking this talking talking about this why is that whole thing so subtexts becomes really important to those actors but what i also loved about this particular production was its lavish productions gosh and i had the great pleasure of hiring olivia hussey and carry always to play a queen gertrude and hamlet pink in the brain up so that really was like pinching pinching jared i have become very dear friends i have protector hint today can you also don't want to see a terrible idea excellent wasn't it spot on her when i heard the sabbath so many times we just go why are you making something that was so good why what why there was the model it was a bad movie movie based on good material and you're like i can make a good movie great we make the film do it better but sure that one rob reiner i mean the quotes what's that people say all the time in the references and there's just as you wish it's yeah perfect and i was like just take more risks on the original stuff day get some exactly exactly spend more time coming up with something can maybe become a classic someday we're still talking about now i will watch yeah i mean i think it's on i think i've recorded to watch him wanting watch whenever i carry always book if you haven't but one where he talks about it it's so cool it gives all kinds of wonderful stories about who what happened on the set and learn how to pronounce his name correctly elvis i've been doing it he so dear but olivia hussy she was extremely generous with her story i was quite nervous and still gorgeous which came into this episode and at like a little hands were shaking and so i take her hand mike i promise you you're gonna have a fantastic time and we're going to just laugh and have fun and she played queen gertrude perfect excellent but you told these great stories about the production of her romeo and juliet i think the filming took two years plus slough now when you watch that film become very clear that the dubbing oh yes the entire film was dubbed yeah and she said she's convinced that zefferelli kept her are there for the year because he was just so crazy about her and he loved her he genuinely loved her she loved him to not in a central whereby they loved each other so much he just she's like he did it ever wanna let me go well worth it because all that voice work is so good because you see those scenes you know it can't possibly have been more glad to have been everyone is so important you can't risk that like losing it to an echo or sooner reunion absolutely and also some of those wonderful moments in the film if you remember we're like when the fire at the end when he's he's showed up he realized heart she is like i'm staying and he he you know ideologues day juliet i dare say that's not in the play that way he just kept adding it i dare do through the horns are coming into the belly i dare say i darryl was wonderful those kinds aww right but it's not them trying to recreate not as spear it's just saying that word those words are so crucial to what's happening right now and you it's not just a chicken but just a chicken but i dare not stay here with you who i screwed up so much there's so many levels so much he is saying ideal almost i'm risking everything if i am standing here i'm ashamed before god i'm ashamed before the sprints i'm shamed before it may just the capulets nobody will ever trust me again and i screwed up so royal and i loved my intentions were all those things are in and i did a longer stay i think lou greeting this this film does as you said like taking liberties and what to cut out like it congress phones in under the narrative this cautionary tale and unlike the prints they're being like look this all happen because you guys can get your shit together they didn't do anything as the prince i also lost and it's like i'm glad this piece but just came too late it's like it's it's vital entrenched uh-huh social harder absolutely and there's there there's also that the silliness that they found in a to like when he's at her balcony albany and he climbs up it's like hanging by one arm oh my is so silly guy looks like a monkey hanging there and that's perfect and wonderful the youth for an exuberant and you get a chance to laugh shooting star passionate fiery love you you you forget sometimes having seen productions with these like thirty plus your old actors that they are kids all of them and one of my my favorite thing i referenced this movie all the time because when i was growing up re mccue show is one of my dream dream role to play on stage and this is one of my favorite depictions for a couple reasons and one of them is the fight with typical because the thing that's tragic about this version is it becomes a play like tablets laughing which in every production he's just this hotheaded angry dude that hates recused show but their kids and their sword fighting and they're laughing and they're playing and he stabs recuse you by accident because someone gets in the way the accident makes sense 'cause kids and it's like i i i love the fact that tipple isn't just just a bad guy right he's just a kid right and they were playing and they were making fun of such a playground thing and then someone else some third party messes game they had with all the best intentions oh yes of course the mccue death in that scene is is sadder because tilt also feels it and he's like oh my god i didn't mean to do so everybody kinda liked tilt yeah he was one of those characters that kind of both everybody liked to own remarkable performance michael york after tell you though that film it came out was to be to our group is not even it's a hamlet which means that it only has twenty five hundred people living there year round in the summer blossoms awesome to like twenty five thousand dollars the euro forever hundred so it had one movie theater terrific movie theater and then the year that this movie came out a second movie theater opened uh-huh and it played romeo and juliet for the entire summer saw every week every week and i wept every week and i yeah and alleviate told me that one of those dress i think it was the red velvet dress way thirty five pounds and so she had to really learn how to move in those heavy heavy clothes and all those wonderful inside stories i love meeting the reasons to hear those stories about how things were done and what they did and i just there's something about that story and it's a timeless story it's west side story is a beautiful updated version of haven't haven't seen that film you really should and i finally did so well was make it accessible to everyone you understood the words they made sense of a new russian sackler late relatable relatable it made sense to get i think is key was the casting of children young and sweet leonard witting tossed i found love with as did every girl he i live here how he wasn't what he was doing and she said to sort of bring this all round circle you guys he you had a stroke several years after the movie and lost all his hair and put on some weight they stayed very very good friends and made his living i'm doing voiceover coolest circles isn't that something may be really happy and that's another person would have loved to have been able to hire don make that work out but i just want to say so you were thirteen when this phone came out okay so i was watching i am twenty seven and i'm just going to bring it in because i'm the lowest common denominator take the group it was a little weird seeing olivia hussy yeah you know in a intimate scene but also leonard wh- it let your waiting winning i'm not sure because it's a it's a one it's one t i i see this as a straight male him his but in those little things like oh my god is popping everywhere no wonder all the girls i i need to she's is not to come one legs white one leg is great i'm like i have to look i pol wonderful beautiful beautiful budgets for two seconds right because she jumps out of bed and you see her naked breast for like ooh she's sixteen at the time so i was gonna say for the art for the film yeah it's so lovely the way he did it was just called the whole the whole bleed he'd helped belt with that scene and you'll the other move we haven't talked about that's along that same lines is of course shakespeare in love oh yeah which is a wonderful way of bringing that movie in their production of romeo and juliet didn't that is wonderful the blooming blood that comes out with a scarf oh loves it wonderful oh my gosh it was terrific yeah they also i would be remiss if i didn't mention the queen mab speech as well as she i watched the first ever saw this i was in high school can't believe i was a sophomore in english and we read the play for MSU from gene finished read the play and then this is the one that our teacher was like this is what we're going to watch this version and i remember i mean i read the queen mab speech the book because we read it aloud right this is kind of cool but seeing john mchenry i believe is his name performance was such like goosebumps it gave me shit like to this day even watching it now and i've seen this five or six times every time he brings it to a level where all of that kind of crazy but still you know kind of wake dreaming in kind of thing i just i could watch that speech over and on interpretation wonderful entering the batch job of that big street and yes yes i'm really mad actually you know what to do with hamlet told to watch this film like the play so in the show i've mentioned that like i never really got unto shakespeare and all this stuff because all my english literature classes were like learn how to take a test pass your classes or AP courses get to college and you're done and it's like i never got to like now i'm an artist some way academia kinda took a second back back step for for where i can i couldn't appreciate where all this came from seeing different iterations different types and it's like why isn't this part of like curriculum we usually read a book but they don't tell you how to read the book where to be what will place to have also this is win hundreds of years ago right so interesting talk about you have to learn how to read a play like to learn how to read the footnotes after c. which folio you're reading from and all that kind dennis different mediums here but i had to learn to read comic books because i didn't you know it took me a while to go okay that batman superman seen the the blue box is s- batmans thought process and the rela boxes superman thought process in that balloon what they're actually saying out loud and i go there first and then there and then over there were that language will really look like left to right but then some panels diagnosed or like do i go oh down or s or go back correct i had to learn how to read comic books and all them they're they're in unless you're like chat to jonathan hickman who's pretty like streamline like everything's just just like one line one line one line and then he'll break it up it's very much like it's a whole new thing and then like you're kind of zigzagging around and you're like how does this person right and you have to figure uh-huh depending on who the writer and the artist is it's a different experience book release but i mean that's related to shakespeare like if you look at it you have to like as an actor when you're when you're doing the lines you see the you see it looks like poetry yeah you have to know like some lines some lines are their own thought or some lines are actually like this is one sentence so just continue don't stop exactly just because they end of line it's not very tech never like was told that stuff and are like how ataollah figure that i'll be going to school to learn how to read shakespeare technicals speech favorite type of acting shakespeare when i was in acting school like that's one of the reasons why i've seen so many times because i had acting teachers that were like okay you need to watch this because of the way that they i mean the delivery of the lions just it's just comes off i mean it's just you can't tell like ryan so shakespeare has always been my favorite because it took so much prep yeah scenic yeah people who do it really well my wife and i go to griffith park and watch independent it shakes per company every summer and they're talking about making it accessible these actors who study at day in and day out know how to deliver a line where i didn't understand all the words you said but i know exactly right right it's like another language it is with the right acting you'll get it would fix exactly see done john and when it's done well with the nine hundred sixty eight romeo and juliet this was one of the first times i've seen 'em movie in a long time there was two and a half hours about and time became a relevant exactly exactly that it was it was really cool i had like maybe one one moment where i was like i know how this ends i know what's going on i know how long this is but i cannot stop mercer cannot leave neilsen real life right now i know it's cool thing to have that disconnect and be like no they're doing they're doing too well i think the a big help with the cinematography which at one in academy award and like how they shot all on locations for those different places and it was just like i'm always searching for those places aren't they the most bloomberg feels like oh like you know you seem performances on stage plays and whether the state is bigger productions huge but it's like this is like oh this is where this is the system right so it's it's great but also meets the penultimate scale but also going in for the close up getting into those performances and you're like i can't do that on a theater in a different medium obviously he's really gonna faces coming faces if you look at his hamlet to with mel gibson good damn good lost lost him recently we just lost did you ask yes thank you for all the wonderful work thank you i mean there is kind of a little bit of a fun fact and how all of this mixes michael york was on may series he played tilts i n right in this movie he also played a character called dr montague cain same right wow wow i never put together montague king when i was researching searching i don't like how there's a great voice michael really recognizable in wonderful i mean and of course i quote him all the time from austin powers he's in quite a lot of the appropriate appropriate way to move to the the end of the shows to go and see this wonderful the next batman anniversary the next week man we're on your book stunned back to that thank is there is there any like current current stuff that's kind of in the world that you want people to check out i know that batman beyond has a yes there are three and rereleased indeed and we'll be making appearances at the new york comic con i think it's the first weekend in october so please come by and say hi bertha and yes third the most and i don't know what else is planned i a encourage people to come and see me at the comic con that i do because i'll probably only do another year or so of them i i don't want to become a took us how am i ever gonna say this delicately joe wants to become a like like i has been oh yes she was and she still showing up exactly so i wonder why i'm still while people remember my work vividly because the they just saw recently recently and stuff then maybe another year so so i'm trying to actually putting out to your audience as well i want to all come cons that they are so if anybody has connections connections with dublin con dartmoor or any of them anywhere i want to do them i love the connection with the the fans and many of them don't even come to get assigned autograph which is fine because there is a fee for that but i just love it they come up and say you made a difference in my life ahead this one guy who came to me once and said i was on the road to being gang member killer who is going to be a horrible person and then i had batman man to come home to and watch every day after school and changed my life and i thought i can't have more that is really really so i encourage people to come see me anywhere and then if you can request of your local areas to bring me in i want to do time on on the record real quick you'll never be the has been because i'll tell you right now there are people who are younger than me who make write essays and put it online for millions of people to watch and instill talk about your work so it's not even like my own personal thing but like as a fact stay five years old is very happy happy you can lose track of thirty five emmy nominations and forty over forty you lost you lost track at thirty five one emmys i don't think there will be a point where you're a has been hanging out that i have a fear up here so thank you for that i'm good for another year at least it's easy to be looped in to that crowd of comic i think you've created a legacy at this point and i and yes it's far larger than ten lifetimes can contain and we're excited for me it's always you understand that you're in the room right now i'm so happy for the de animate stuff it's always been if it's bruce timm andrea romano dwayne mcduffie kevin kevin conroy somewhere may even as just somewhere like i'm in with these are the holy trinity off aw thank you thank you thank you so much for joining us honor you guys this has the fun for me oh great everybody at home thank you to for washing listening however you you you watch nerd on we just are so appreciative to have you joining us in this wonderful moments please stop by tunes or wherever you listen to podcasts ask and rate us review it that kind of stuff does help us if you're new to nerd on and what we are checkout nerd on TV has all all of the information of what it is that we do videos articles every many podcasts but yeah check it out subscribe share your friends if your

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Bobby Gets Into Stranger's Car By Accident + Listener Seeks Advice On What To Do With Her Wedding Dress After Divorce

"I'm Dani Shapiro, my new podcast family secrets just racked up its first season. And it's filled with stories about the secrets that are kept from us secrets that we keep from others and the secrets, we keep from ourselves. If you've been waiting for the right time to binge them all now's your chance. Check out the episodes, along with bonus interviews and stories and keep an ear out for the next season in August. You can find out more at family secrets podcast dot com, and you can listen and subscribe at apple podcasts, or on the iheartradio app or wherever you listen to podcasts. The Bobby bones post show pre show. Just finished Tuesday's show, I gotta tell you there's like a load lifted off my shoulders today. Why? Done go back and forth like for a year. I know I just yada, yada. Now. Everybody listening. Joining doesn't stop doing that. Everybody. I don't let people eat in the studio anymore. So you guys will walk out of the studio to eat or to p or whatever you do a quick break, and we'll just Morgan number two nine like how's it going good? Better because much enjoy doing those shows that's been a year, going back and forth between Danta the stars and American idol and like I I'm done now, like three months where have some other projects, but nothing I have to travel to California all the time. So now I think it can just get to my north a bit of normalcy we're going to tore, but that's, that's nothing for us. It's weekends. We've done it before as weekends we go. We do shows Friday night and Saturday night threatening idiots doing good. But yet that's good kind of feels like all the things are gonna fall in place. Now we got a girlfriend, I'm gonna get a dog baby. Retire all by the end of the year, then get married a lot, all in that exact order. So, yeah. Yeah. We just finish today show stick around, you'll get to hear it. Whereas a drunk airline passengers in banned from flying after he reportedly broke a male flight attendants leg during a dispute over a cigarette. What's wrong with people like he was trying to smoke it at passenger board the flight without issue, though things quickly took a turn as he decided to light up a cigarette? All my gosh. Drunk, the flooded said, hey, stop. Let me tell you anyway. Brooke like this pivots to story. What am I friends wasn't flight attendant for a long time? And she said, I've, I told the when Houston sorry, this is this hearsay, but pry, but just hearsay, but probably, I don't know how Whitney Houston's on airplane, not a private flight. I class and Whitney Houston lights up a cigarette and my friends like you know, that's like a five thousand dollar fine. And she reaches into pulls out checklist and goes here. Dozen smoke. Cigarette on the plane. They let her do it. Well, what are you going to tackle any Houston? No and five grand just take it pay. The fine. Everyone on that plane that's who you pay it to the right. Right. And I did. I was on an airplane, Amy, they had, ashtrays, that means it was about works opened up and stuff. And there are Clinton I was like, what, what is this from there's an old thing. Madman. Did I talk about the low talker? I know. I made my notes it ever talked about that on the job. Now I let me tell you, I get on this flight via comedy. Well, no, it's, it's six I get on this flight and American idol flies back and forth, and they put me in first class because they're like you got we were on a flight with him like leaving a and we were on delta involved was first class. And my kids are like, oh, why living up here? They've only ever flown south west is like their first time on. Well, I guess when they came to Haiti but that's a different story, but they didn't. They were like Bobby sitting up there. I'm like, that's where this special people are harassing her kids. They walked by to. Yeah. He's like, then, and then. Because I'm also. Everyone else in first causes like water savvy until the last year. So I never flew first class, that was south west all the way. And but the last year because of dancing, which always put me, first class, an idol, sometimes I'll fly southwest, Freidel, depending on went on to go back, and if I don't pay for it. Plus, like you're having to work like you need to arrive. I get it like when my husband would go like for military stuff fly long flight somewhere, they would put them first class because he needed to be rested when he arrived all, I just, just because I was doing his only reason, but in, you would be rested, I guess I didn't even land and go right to work. Whatever I was trying. They would just go, hey, you're part of the contract is we fly first class wherever you go. So I was like cool, cool. And so I'm there. And there's this odd come rodri- amongst people in first class which I'm not totally in it yet. And you sit down and you're supposed to talk about what you do. And what landed you to be in first class like a celebration of how you got to first class. Interesting. And so you sit down and it happens every time he sat down, and I'm not a big talker with people because I don't want to bother folks. I'm like they're here they got their own life going. I'm going to sit down. But since I've done it for a year they sit and they go. Hey how the person's like, hey, what's happening? Good. And, like, I, I am pretty first-class how the freedom, not good look at this, and they're like, what do you do? I think it's a marketing thing. I think they wanna meet people who are also successful fly first class so they can use it to their advantage networking. It's a weird thing. It's like a whole first class culture. And so this last time the who's manager really the band the who. Yeah. Wow. I met a few interesting people in the first class. Yeah. That's cool. That being said this one time recently, I get on and Upham headphones on because that means I'm gonna go sleep in Bobby fashion. Yes. I've the head and heart put out a new album and I love it. And I'm listening to head and heart. It's my new sleep record, then I'm in, I'm taking it in and get a little tap on the shoulder. Pull out. I pull off one ear just barely where they know. I'm not even investing a whole era in. You're right now, you're going to get a part of an era, that's when he would you have to say, but I'm trying to sleep, you know so pulled off a little bit like this. I'm doing here and guess what's up and says? I was like, well, maybe my headphones what to laugh, so I pull them off all the way and like, what I because the thing you know, one was, like it's the guy. Yeah. Guy. I hate to ask third time because he's already said at twice. So all I do is. Yeah. Yeah. And so then he goes. No, no, no. But even on. So that's before times now and I still don't know. Right next year. He sitting in the seat right to my left and I go, hey man, I don't know what you said, would you say? So he says it again. It goes, hey, what was that thing that show that you went on people are stopping and taking pictures while they're walking by 'cause I was sitting in first class? And I'll take picture with anybody. I'm happy to. And so I was like, oh, went to ran through kind of the thing and cool. So I put me back on by sleep. No, megan. And so then I realized that, well, I'm just in this for the conversation now I, I gotta be take the headphones off. And he's like. What? This is Amy. We had a combination I think I may seven cents. He said, why, why wouldn't you catch on that you weren't understanding, especially if you had to finally took like five times, or what then he wouldn't tell you turn the volume of he would just say it again. And so then I found myself with my ear over in his seat. Just trying to hear what he was saying. Hold on. And then I would just have them be like. Yeah. No, yeah. This is the weirdest low talking. They turn the volume up. I, I watch grabs nipple turn it up. Let me just give you more not just here. There you go airplanes loud. The guy mumbled. I'm unbel-, but I don't want an airplane mumble outer. And it was a whole weird thing, and it's weird for the whole flight. He talk like that. It was a day, what I think I said, okay. Have a good day and I was like help you have a good day to no. He's like, no y'all become friends. I hang out. You know what his name was? Name number. Somebody gave me their business card though. More about this who's manager. He so I'm sitting next to the guy who's who is managing the who, you know, who is you have one of their teachers. The Super Bowl halftime shirt, I think you might might have. I would I would confess if I did. I don't know. It's not that you wouldn't confess. We just don't think you know what T shirts. You wear. Okay. Well, maybe I do have one. So I'm sitting next to him and. You can tell he's in the music business because he looks cool. Yeah. He's like older, but looks really cool like that, Jimmy, I bean type look whereas like late fifties, but he's like he's not wearing dockers. No, he's got like a leather jacket on and you're like either. He used to be something or he is something now. And so he's like, yeah. Managed the who and I guess like. Rinat. Roger dodger three he'd Townsend know who maybe one of them, because I think there's no is there water. Keith moon was a drummer died at checkout here. We got we got. We got Roger dodger p towns and Keith moon. Yeah. John, I if people yeah, I only know Roger dodger Pete Townsend. Okay. Roger waters thankful. That's been. Let me see if it is, again, because one of them was in town singing, okay? Well, the ban the who's touring at no no. It was. Roger daltrey. Okay. Lead singer. And he was in town, and he goes, yeah. He was in town is, that's the thing what they have forty six people as I get orchestra an orchestra and he goes, yeah. And I know how expensive it is to tour. Because when the regin gideon's tour I got to pay for flights and hotels and pay everybody it's expensive. And I say to him was that cost you. How much does that cost him over forty six like trumpet blares? And apparently, what I learned it was very valuable is they have, like five people that travel that lead the band, and they use the orchestra from every city, okay, so come in, like a day early and they are just on charts. Yeah. But I found that to be a pretty interesting cut is. Yeah. It's a lot cheaper and how that works like five in an orchestra that travel with him and with them, and then they just find each city's orchestra and teach them real quick. And plus plus a lot of these older bands. They charge like a lot for their tickets yet, Rolling Stone who like a lot of the older eagles expensive ticket. Yeah. Because their fans have all lawyers and doctors older, and they're older, and they have disposable income, but those are the acts that are selling football stadiums. Arenas are the legend acts. I'm not you know as far as like young acts that can sell stadium Garth one. Oh, he's a legend. He's he is. Like think about that. I can name Taylor. Taylor. Kenny, what? Yes, absolutely. Kenny. But as he legend dish. If he's, he's doing a good job of staying y'all. He's got a bunch of hits he's still making hits, Ed Sheeran, his one that's contemporary, that's super contemporary and doing stadiums, Kinney, Arianna around a Guerande. I don't think she's doing stadium L Eric church isn't he now, one here he'd usually does arenas like two and night. There. But there aren't that many state anymore, except for the big acts like the stones like Metallica guns and roses. I think did it for. So it's always that had it's tough. It's tough to sell tickets and stuff. Now, let's Kleesset next to that guy. There's a whole culture of, and now I'm not the show. So who knows? It'll be flying price and in the bathroom. Begging for a seat at this point. I my de- had written me this note because we always talk about dark with dark web. Oh, yeah. And how you get on the dark web, 'cause that's where all the bad stuff happens. And even my lifelock commercials, they talk about the dark web, and how that's where people who still identities take them and sell them to people. So Mike, what did you what kind of research doing this? I found how you actually get stuff delivered to you from the dark web. Yeah. So it doesn't get flagged. Is it like UP or the dark Amazon web? Yeah. Like, like a UPS with, like a dark EBay Brown. Like how what can what can dark do in black do for you that Wednesday, Blanco's, dark? So like it's not to you via your via the internet, but like delivered to your house. Yes. There's like this underground Ebeid, it's called the silk road. It's called what the silk road the silk road. So it's basically you go on there. Looks like EBay, but it's all like this, a legal stuff like drugs. This is on the dark web Silkroad is okay. And you go there. There what they do is they'll start sending you random packages to your house from all different parts of the country or the world. So it looks like a bunch of random things coming to your house, but he creates this pattern to where it's not going to get flag later because you're already getting all these crazy packages. And then the when you do order shows up, but it's not weird. So, but are they using Amazon? No. Hold on. Hold on who delivered. But my point is if there's some new thing, delivering Q why was something get flagged if she's a packet was dropped off. Because it's goes through customs if it comes from another country, okay? So it's not about it again to your house going through it seems like they're using normal the normal carrier, right? Get it came saying. So it would be like Amazon, or a UPS, or the male or the mail postal service to someone from the silk road, isn't showing up, like Lou realm. With sickle? You've wanted this from the back with. Carry their dad silk road here. Even just to see if this works it makes this like mortar, but then like we would be the one time like undercover. Cops like some not not too crazy like Chinese stars or something. And then just start us. What does not for sale on the dark web? Everything's for sale dark web. Oh, I thought it was just pills and stuff. You think the only thing selling pills, what would be something? You'd be interested in the dog from the dark I need an example. Can I Google it? I'm staying off who Yuban cigars, maybe illegal. I'm so scared of the illegal. That maybe like zanex, okay, something I have a script for something that I legally have a prescription for that. I could just pour in my prescription bottle, then I'd be totally nude and saved up. What's the deep web? That's. Dark dark web. Oh, so it's not middle. That's like purgatory deeply isn't even bad. Oh. They sell human body parts and organs on the deep lab. I just googled it. They do credit card information body part that's dark with now deep web is taught. Organs are two ankles. Sorry. Oh my gosh. This is. Weapons uranium. Legal and Iranian is that from Black Panther watering uranium? Let me tell you. Nuclear weapons. With tyson. It said the I it says, if you aren't sure, what uranium is, and why it's bad two words that will clear that up for you our nuclear weapons, so it's bad. It's dangerous. Stay away from it. Also, you can get legal drugs, fake documents swimmers probably get a fake dog. Oh my buddy pass. Was firm enga- grew don't go there for that. I'm over your stuff. I got Google swimmers. It's a tiny man's a bathing suit. Just covers the central. Pocket. EM G generator, a every careful all the. Wow. Wow. If those can not get into the hands of bad, people they do wreck havoc that's happening right now. Why you won't blood you can get it. Their Twitter Fuller's. L how it's like Twitter followers those kinds of. Hidden. Oh, that makes sense and rice in. Yeah, yeah, wow. Yeah. That's the poison that you can just. Well, I don't wanna go there. This is an article about it, obviously, I'm not there movie might they should just start with Twitter, followers pattern. Innocent thing on there. Like speaking, I need instrument, followers to read a million, so I can stop staring at my thing. Who cares? Nine hundred seventy six thousand. You couldn't ask or Orlando or I guess deals. The. Goodness, your buddies now? They're not my buddies, though. I liked him. But I, I just want to play it so cool. And I'm famous people. Perry never give you a little re tweet anything ever. Li-. No line on Twitter Yang Twitter. He would. Yeah, Mr. Bob Dylan's. Let's that million. Maybe there's a little treat in it for somebody in this room. Why what do you want us to do? I don't know. I don't want them, then I have all drug small. It's like dictators and drug lords full me all of a sudden, like wait. What? Every time we see your activity you're involved with them. Got a mobster activity. It's like the new leader of Venezuela. Just followed me what's up? That's funny. I think that's it. We're going to go and get get rocking here on the show around the room. Real quick, Amy, what would you Amy still in the dark way you got to get off that I look over? There is a really big. I feel like she's an order something today. There's so much talk here. I just don't see, I mean, everything from like, you know, Bruce Lee's nunchucks from Asia, they'd be shipping formation. They don't ship to Australia, by the way, Blang. Okay. It's stolen. That's why probably from a museum. Yeah. In LSD. That's cool. Oh, of what listen, Moroccan hash nominee? Now man. That's good stuff. Glock. I was watching the tour bus diaries show. Yeah. Have you started that? No. I have not. You'll love it. It's Amy wouldn't enemies over there still because they even put like Niamey's Amy's over there reading about Kentucky cocaine or something. No. Hundred percent satisfaction guaranteed. Oh, I'm sure I'm sure you can go back for a refund. That'd be real nice. Their customer service Chick-fil-A. I mean they're just giving. Whiter by a gram of cocaine. I even know it's really go gain that. You're gonna go like tough. All sales are final. Got a problem with I can't even get a hold of them again. All right. We're to say that you like, okay so does this show called. Diaries, right. Tales from the tour. Bus Mike judge presents tell from tour tells the tour bus. And if you love music history. It's awesome and they're all cartoons just the threat. They are them but there's drawing cartoons. And they did the whole first. Season is country. Uncle right integrate because they did Johnny paycheck, Jerry Lewis, George Jones, and Tammy Wynette, which crazy, Tammy Wynette. George Jones, George Jones. I bet you why. Yeah. Not a great guy really. She'll watch it. Great singer. Not the best guy. Good to know and Tammy wine, and how they got married. They found each. It's a wild story. Billy, Joe shaver, which is fantastic. That'd be said, I got over, and I was watching the George Clinton when season two's, about funk, and it talks about LSD, and I didn't know the history of LSD. But it Harvard scientists is said to make it up and credited and, and the same guy who's a scientist used to run sound like sound or for fish. No. No, the Grateful Dead. Okay. And that older something sense. Yes. And so they're developing this thing at Harvard. And he's also helping the Grateful Dead inserts, giving them their trip. So the guys these George Clinton, they're up in Massachusetts, wherever not Bill Clinton. Like. Like burnt what's gotten invention me? Why? All right. That's that. No. That's play fucking using that, it would be a while cherry okay, what's the one, I'm thinking of get back to finish the story. So they're up in Massachusetts in these nerdy, white dudes, come up to them at like a funk concert, where during a lot of nerdy, white dudes like, hey may want to try. Let's try this new drug. We just been it. And so they're like, sure, they'll try anything and they go to Harvard and they take a test. You get paid sixty bucks. Try the effects of whatever it is. And it was LSD and then became the big LSD or wow. Because of a draw. It's crazy. Crazy. Your point. Yes. George clinton. No. What's this? This is the greatest story about this song this on here. George Clinton was so messed up on LSD walks into the studio. And this song is playing right? And they're playing this track song doll. So the tracks playing and he's like autumn nowhere. I am I should I should start. It was late to the to the session is in trouble. So he starts talking. This is a story. This track was not the try. They it was a real track. But this was played backward rewinding when he put his headphones on and he thought it was a track, and he was so messed up. This is story of Dell so you hear that. Some of that sounds from the rewind, and that is how that song happened to a big hit. He of singing he talks about this on the show while. Let's cool is good music. Nerdy look. What we used to play that funky music white boy, you know, the George Clinton song that for the record though sharing. Close Eddie, join one. That's the only song on our system by George clan. Really? Although he wasn't like Funke Delic. They're not in p funk all stars. Not in. I don't know. That's it. We're done with this now around the room. Amy what's today Tuesday. Iva Q, and A episode up on my podcast four things with Amy Brown. It's like fifteen twenty minutes just answering questions that are submitted from listeners to me, and I answered them really important things. I know I get more health questions. Unlike almost like, Ooh, I feel bad. I mean I do my research and I just do I share what works for me. And hopefully you have to see if it's going to work for you. But I need to start probably adding a disclaimer that I'm not a doctor. You know, I was thinking. I'm not a nutritionist or in hell, but I do seek out answers from if I don't know the answer. I seek it out from someone that I trust if you see gave me. Yeah. K. Britney Spears Vedeno that you know what that meant? Yeah. Yeah I'm not done. What does it mean she had a song called? If you seek Amy. Do you know what I mean? No. F. U K me, oh, if you seek. But if you put it together didn't we play that did. And yeah, we loved it. She was like, who can? Now, I'm just I remember certain stuff, only from when I had a show after our show for two hours. And I would have to like intro a song I always felt weird about that one. Weird one. Let's FOX, what would you say? Ooh, I'd say listen to the sore losers podcasts Eddie Ray myself have a podcast. It goes up every day sore losers wherever you get your podcast. There you have it for me. I shall say that Eddie now going back on tour. And the tickets are have sold wonderfully and some cities are sold out in some aren't, but you can go check out if it's coming to your town. It's two guys. Eddie, myself music, and comedy are raging idiot songs and Walker boroughs is playing with us. So identity Chicago San Antonio. Austin emerald El Paso, Saint Louis. Oklahoma City Little Rock, Arkansas. Richmond Virginia, Wilmington, Delaware Tulsa. Lost Vegas and Louisville. Don't I'm getting so many emails, I mean, I don't know if I'm just the only person people know how to Email, but I get all these emails are so excited dot valley. Jerry like so pumped about coming to y'all show and they're like, I got tickets. I can't wait. It's going to be the best. And I'm like that question on your podcast. Yeah. Do you want me to I will? Sure, I'll add it your. I haven't okay, I'll add it. I'll let it you don't have to do it. Maybe I should do in your medical minute. I mean, that's what I should like sometimes I'm like, oh, man. I really hope that this is correct information. We'll see you. Well, we're going to start today show now here is. Yeah. Jeeze tuesday. I my days have been offer awhile since that show types on Sundays, and I work Saturdays and Sundays. I've been a day off in, like four months Loof and so. No, no, no. Now going to catch up on the days. Maxine great spirits. Love it. That is it the Poche. Oh, show is over. Now here's the actual show. This episode is brought to you by sleep number. We work hard at being healthier exercising. Eating veggies downward dogging distress. 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Transmitting across America. Right. They welcome to Tuesday show. More studio. I was reading this story about every injury Daniel Craig has had while playing JAMES BOND. I mean this guy's been through a lot and he does as many of the stunts as his insurance company, will let him get away with which I don't know what he's trying to prove. Does it just think it's fun? Is he trying to prove he's a real action star because it's not the same as it was like in the eighties nineties, but they can get people just like you, and you go make way more movies. Listen to this casino royale? He knocked out two of his front teeth while shooting a fight scene complete with blood seeping out between his fingers when he covered his mouth, a dentist was flown in the teeth will replace anywhere protective mouthguard four fights from then on. But kept fighting in fighting's quantum of solace he aggravated an old shoulder injury. And separated, it wa- fighting requiring surgery also in this movie he sliced off the end up one of his fingers. He said he just lost the pad and had. And had to have it like when they make it hard like they burn it and make it hard at the hospital season a fingerprint anymore. He could like Rick the law with that finger. And no one would know he's a one finger criminal. James BOND specter. They say spectra specter while shooting a fight fight scene. He sprained his knee and delay the, the shooting for a few days on twenty five the new von flick. He slipped and fell while sprinting and messed up his ankle so bad that they had to fly him to the United States for x-rays filming has been halted while he gets checked out. He's going to hurt every movie that how else Daniel Craig, he's gotta be fifty right? Yeah. You ever see those movies those down, fifty one. I liked it on those. Yeah, he's fifty one. Fifty one. The internet has my height lifted. Ron amulets like five ten say. Let me let me check this out. I'm done. I quit. I'm not five fifteen. I'm at least six foot two. Right. Amy. Oh, no, you're six foot. Thank you. Down the Bobby bones show podcast highlights segment of the day. So your neighbors allowed. Oh, yeah. They had a party on a school night. Like a weeknight like I don't get it. They did give me a warning that they were going to be having an event. The event like and I was like, is that just like a tr- like subtle way of saying you're having an all night party concert in your backyard. So what were the brothers laws? So what were the brothers Osborne? No, it's in between jails more, be honest. Now it wasn't I call him out. Okay. I'll be like seriously because my kids didn't sleep. I didn't sleep and it, it's yes, the house in between us so, yeah, I wonder if it kept him up, but, I mean, there was music and cheering and talking and drinking and yelling and laughing and let alone on a weeknight, what time of the night am is this clip from, oh, this was, I finally got out of bed to record it because I was like nobody's gonna believe me that I'm having to listen to this, like, passed eleven PM. So this really like at eleven or eleven thirty eleven on a weeknight. Okay. Let me hear this ten o'clock type two AB automatically. He'd been in bed since eight PM. So I don't know too late night. Trust me. I didn't go to bed until after like twelve thirty pm navy. So sorry, I didn't remember exactly what my record it, it's like ten o'clock. I hear. Like a beer, can you kidding? Party. In like a walk near. That's opening my door. The I didn't even walk outside on that your bedroom. Your front door my back door, which is right by my bedroom. Okay. Yeah. That's. At ten o'clock on a week night. Here. Doesn't event in. So I opened it. They had just finished playing a song. So that's why they were tearing the soul. I just heard happy birthday in there to listen to the songs and other songs started later. This is Amy says she's a cool neighbor. Okay. I'm gonna or. But I have to wake up early. They doing like slam poetry or way. I didn't want to walk outside because I want them to see me. We share a fence if I were to walked outside, they would have seen me. Sleeping. That's awesome. Probably sleeping. What can I do still inside my living room as I'm recording this, by the way, Grover from sensitive or cookie monster? I don't know what time did SpongeBob. I noticed the. What your kids say they didn't sleep? They decided to. Yeah. No, my daughter even came downstairs. She was just like what is happening because her window like she's on the second floor and like her bedroom is right over their backyard, sort of. Did you ever go up and say something to them like Jill? No. But I got so many comments on Instagram when I posted that, like I saw people commenting like I should call the police anonymously. No, I'm not good for you kinda neighbor, but even some of my friends were like oh, I would have and kept it anonymous. I'm like, yeah. Right. They would know it was me and look already have issues on my street of good. So let's go through the issues on Amie street one painted death next to her extra house, in a big spray paint. Yes, to there's the woman who has been harassing you going. You're not not now it was one Email, but, I mean definitely that you an Email telling you how nice you are. Definitely said I did you ever take her cookies now I've into nervous? I, I want to I still would like to like make amends and explainer. That's a misunderstanding. And I'm nice but you know what? Oh, did I tell you by husband and I we were walking down the street, did I tell and some guy was walking by and Mizoram weren't even think of it. But we're like, hey, we wave keep walking, and then he hear a voice, and he's like see you do wave to people. He's a listener of the show that lives in my neighborhood. That heard the Email about how the neighbor was telling me that I just basically was not polite. Listen, I said this, though, you are the kindest person that I know. And that's a weird thing that she would say that it was wrong. It was it was very bizarre. So, yeah. There is that going on my street. And then now this neighbor the party event, the person had this event is new. He just moved in, so I don't know if this is something I need to get used to or tour takes. Tour takes take some earmuffs to him. But, like, hey, this is what I have to live with. Yeah. And then find the gang that put up death and just go hang out. Let's go. Tell them your story. 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Yeah, he listens on his ride to work while he's at work. And I listened on podcast and we love you guys because it really, you know, when you get busy with live with conversation you can fall into the same conversation day with you at work. But whether you guys show, it gives us a topic for discussion and one of us will always bring up your show. What we heard that day. And it just keeps conversation rolling preseason appreciative lobbying for the show, your voice out there as well. Give them a shot up. Billy bilton. Billy. As a cool. That's a wrestler Dame. Yeah. And now. That's funny. I mean like hulk HOGAN. Thank you very much for listening. Thank you for the call. And here we are doing it again another week. I got a cool on this day, country music, the Bobby bones show this day. Today in nineteen Ninety-three twenty-six years ago. This song is released. On the Chad. Chatting, whoever knew. How did nutty? Alan Jackson road it with Jim McBride the road out on the road. They finish the song before, soundcheck rally Jackson, what's to show. He showed it to his band, and they performed that night. Wow. That's cool road. It recorded it like a work team. And then went out and played it. And there was instantly. And it's a client. It's a modern flashing, right? The wind is in shit on this day country music, will in twenty six years ago, Alan Jackson releases Chatahoochee show. So we have even split guys and girls on the show, and I brought him Morgan number two and utility, Hillary Morgan does digital on our show. So all of our, social and all of our website and Hillary does a little bit of everything from editing commercials, like she sits in the classroom. And, and does a lot of the stuff that you don't actually know happening behind the scenes stuff, but they're both single right girls and both dating a bit or trying to date. But what I've heard is is that there's an issue with being on this show in dating for them. Morgan number two. Tell me about this. So I will go on a date. And people will ask me all about Bobby and they'll be like, what's he like, who's he dating? Can you tell me some secrets about Bobby, and I'm like, no I can't I don't want to talk about that right now. Yeah. That'd be hard. Do you feel like people are going out with you just to find? Can they be spies? Yeah. Like I feel like they're coming to date out with me to hang out with you. Like they're I'm like, the way to you. Are you putting on your dating profile though, that you work for me? No, I actually like put like our actual company name instead of like who I mean, but if they're a fan of the show, they kind of figure it out. Instagram. I mean I get it. I felt that way with some nanny interviews. Except for it wasn't like guys trying to just ask about you. It was like girls that I thought might try to date, you and I was like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Maybe very single. Maybe I mean, that's, that's a bummer. That's bummer to be dating. And not. No. I mean, Bobby you have to deal with that, not knowing if someone's dating you for you, or what they want. And now yeah, it's affecting girls on the show, did they want to date them for they are or if they can get close to you. Listen, I'm going to say this is about the girls on our show. If you get one of them to go out with you, you better treasure that because we got some good girls on this show. That's right. You don't even need to ask about me, you need to get off that train number, too. How's it going, you dated anybody or no? Yeah. I'm still out there dating. I've kind of went on about five dates, the one guy, which is pretty consistent point five that's almost boyfriend stuff. Yeah. That I'm not ready for that dates is a good amount. Yeah. Yeah. Hillary anything with you now I'm still looking around still trying to. Are you on the apps now I'm not on any of the apps? Okay. Well, then you're not looking hard enough. I don't know. I just I think I'll maybe run into them somewhere. I don't know. We'll see what happens work on somebody to say that to, like, maybe I'll just bump into somebody somewhere. She might you. I mean I don't yeah. We got a maybe we need to be keeping our eyes open for them to try useless. It's time for the good news. A major rescue operation went down in Michigan all because of a raccoon. Do you. I think raccoons are super q, but I mean, nobody expected for traffic to stop. Everything was reduced to a single lane for about an hour during the rescue a fire department ladder truck was summoned to the scene. Authorities attempted to capture the raccoon in a net. And it finally worked the raccoon was captured and safely, my dad, which is just awesome. Because I mean, this is showing that, you know, every creature counts I'll tell you what the mount planner Arkansas ain't happening. Oh, somebody's pulling out there. Shotgun. And getting rid of that record. Real quick traffic, no problem. Good. Good. I'm personally on team raccoon. I think they're cute. They're sound kill during the garbage too much. They're gross animals. They're cute on cartoons. Not their fault. Okay. Why survive? But no one goes. You know, a bobby's, not that cute, but it's not his fault. Let's let them that we are. We are what we are. They're cute whenever they're just like cleaned up in the Walker now. But the records are really aren't that good van will having dealt with many of them myself in, in the country. What town was that? This is in downtown Michigan. Okay. I'm telling you downtown Michigan was Michigan. Sorry. I was confused. I didn't know if maybe there was a Michigan Michigan. It says, in a Michigan city, my bad in, in a in a city is. Good. Good for the right. Linda. Another day. I know the county, it was in, in Kalamazoo was probably near Kalamazoo Michigan. All right. There. Bobbit bone show down. The story comes from Cape. Coral Florida, a man has been busted breaking into a house to steal a Nintendo, switch. All because it was caught on camera. They have one of those ring doorbells, and the guy breaks in steals the Nintendo, switch. Only problem is he was in his work uniform with the name tag on. So I got it. All right there on camera easy to find. That's pretty funny. Oh, herb. They knew it was herb by his name tag. What was his job to say it didn't say, I think it was a fast food restaurant. And his name was Kyle. How course Kyle kinda. Yeah. I'm much box that your boneheads story today. Buddy, miss the Bob. Transmitting across America. Right. Lunchboxes high school reunion. Coming up Wednesday June the eight Saturday June eighth twenty years in the books. Wow. And lunchbox wanted to get a Lamborghini to drive to his high school reunion. So he kinda show off, but. But you're not showing off what's real. Yeah. But people expect a certain level of. Flash from the problem king true. Oh, you think Pete and day, we don't, don't like adding to it. I don't think people even remember who the king was. I bet it has popped in their head one time since graduation. Oh, yeah. Right. You are you kidding me? I've remember who Mike's exactly. But if you thought about it at all sense, brought it up. You're on the show. He's a friend of mine. I'm thinking about it right now. You're right lunchbox. Like bobby's, right? I haven't I haven't really thought about it. He thinks people obsess over the fact prom king every since he's in high school. He has twenty years ago, and I don't, I guess I don't expect my friend to show up in some flashy car, so lunchbox call them. What would you say the average price west to rent Lamborghini? It was like fifteen thousand dollars for the day. Was it that much fifteen thousand? Well. Thousand. No, I think is more than three thousand three thousand week. If we could do a go fund me and get that, I'm pretty sure it was quite expensive. Well, regardless, he's now thought, okay, I'm not going to do a Lamborghini. Now what are you thinking? I'm thinking about a tesla. I've been hearing a lot about these Tesla's I don't know much about Tesla's but it's the new buzzword and I don't know if they're flashing. He just hearing things that on the news. And you bring it in here. They talk about Tesla's a lot. And people are like, oh, it's the new cool car. But I don't know if it's flashy enough to drive to the high school reunion, like well that turn heads, if I pull up in a tesla will will be like, dang, it lunchbox got a tesla. It won't be very loud. That's for sure. It. Go in your own car park, and go in and be normal, aren't you wanted people whose, like people on Instagram are so fake now? But it looks cool like I like those rich kids of Instagram. Like they have a cool life. They post pictures on votes in yachts, and I'm like, but they're really rich. Okay. But I think it's cool. I think you've gotta make yourself look cool, your twenty year. Reunion, people expect certain level of success. And if I show up in a beat up Pinto, they're not going to be very impressed. I find a Pinto, first of all, second of all, I don't think most people are going to see what car you're driving. Anyway. Just why don't you just get nice close that what you let's get to keep them. Well, I mean, I'm going to have nice clothes on, of course. Yeah. The end. I think you're just wasting your money. Amy, your thoughts. I kinda wanna see him get a fancy car. Also. Why are you in? I think it'd be funny. Like I don't know how he's gonna handle it like what he'll do. Plus, he's so obsessed with Bobby like if this makes him happy and he wants to waste his money on racing car. I don't understand why you think it's a waste. It's, it's today he did a corvette one year. That was a ten year reunion, anyone cedar corvette that you rented, not as many people's I've wanted, because there was no parking in the parking garage. So I had to do two laps two or three laps around the block. So multiple people would see him. Let us know what test like cost to rent hard. I'm gonna look it up and try to figure that out. Welcome, welcome. Welcome back to the Bob left's that's podcast. That's right. I have all new episode with your favorite musicians comedians, promoters, and behind the scenes people. If you want to know how the entertainment industry really works. This is the place to tune in for those unfamiliar with my act. I've been writing a newsletter for thirty years of who's who of industry. People subscribe to my newsletter. Why are they tuning in, because I make sense out of the chaos. I interview people in the music and entertainment industry to find out how they got to where they are what it's like to be in the belly of the beast. These are the stories you want to hear this is not puff pieces. I guarantee you'll be riveted. So every Thursday, tune into the Bob left that's podcast on the iheartradio app. Apple. Podcasts or wherever you listen to your podcast. Sammy's pile of stories, Bobby feel like in school like high school in particular, we like we learned useless, things like after school, we got out boom, you never use it again. I feel like most of the stuff I learned in high school. I never used again. Plus 'specially math. Yes. I feel like a lot of that's on here. So Americans were surveyed with, you know, the top things that after graduation. They never used and. Yeah. Like pie is on here. Periodic table. The Pythagorean theorem. Do you even know what that is, is up patacula? What is that? I clearly haven't used it since my school. How many other math things are on there? I Don some, some science stuff like protons, neutrons electrons, osmosis. Photosynthesis, I think that's valuable to learn if your path is that direction? They made me learn a lot of stuff that I do. I'd never use. I resented having to spend time we don't teach things, though, that we should like how to budget, and if we do it's like two weeks of an entire class. There's a lot of stuff that we don't teach what else is on that list. We keep going naming the president's in order. Not at mind that so much the types of different rocks that there are sedimentary, ignorance, metamorphose. I mean, I don't mind that stuff case show off album trivia, I know. Well, I guess they're it helps you it helps us like when we played that, you know, I enjoy learning. It just they made me take a lot of stuff. I didn't wanna take. And I knew I would never use again. I like the way my high school they sorta handled they knew I wasn't that into chemistry me, and some other kids. So, like we got to take something called chemistry in the community, and I loved it like it was so great issues like no give. Breaking bad. No. But it was just way more on my level. Like I didn't need to be doing the full blown chemistry. But it just was. You know it was something where we got in some of the science stuff that we needed, but it just wasn't as intense. And I knew I wasn't going to go into a field in college that I needed a chemistry background. So it was all good. Well, I agree with that. I think we should instead of focusing on, we're not learning. We should find like seven or eight things that we are, and have schools implement them. Yeah. Okay. Would you be more likely to show up to a funeral if there was entertainment there? I mean listen, I know Jimmy died last week, but modest mouse are going to be playing right after the show. No, I don't think it would affect it in some people are say that hiring performers can increase attendance at and sell tickets to a funeral. No. But a higher attendance is seen as a, you know, a better way of honoring the person that tied 'cause like, more people will be there is going to be hard. Sometimes there's a funeral. And the not that many people show up. I mean, really rich people are gonna have Bruno Mars plan their cousins funeral? I prefer to call it a celebration of life. That's what we call my mom's funeral. That'd be weird. If like a musical guest played, imagine if you're the musical guests to, and it's like, all right. Tyler for your on ready for you finish crying, I wonder if any of our, you know, our country like our artists here have ever been asked. You know, they get probably asked to play weddings and birthdays and Bob mitzvahs all the time. But I wonder if they've ever been asked to play funeral. I dunno. I saw Daniel bribery senior friend's wedding on riches story. Oh, that's yeah. It's really cool, because she's really good to what else. Okay. So I have the worst opening lines that women have gotten on dating apps. Oh, I know. Mine works. Okay. What does it? Hi. I'm bobby? Okay. Will you need more than that? Okay. Listen, girl you're looking thicker than a bowl of oatmeal. What's up? I, I don't think lines work what I really do because I'm on the ad. So I really do is try to cater each message specifically to the person involved. Okay. What about this one are you from McDonald's because I'm loving it. I just feel like hey Morgan number two. You're on the dating apps. Guys are talking to you. Right, L. Yeah. If someone came to you, it was like, hey, and they used that line. Would you think that was funny or they're using on one hundred people and? A bit corny. I I don't like lines like they have to tailor it to like whatever's on my profile, and that's when all engage. Otherwise, I won't respond to align. That's why do I write to the people like all right stuff depending on what the profile is do? Yeah. You 'cause you're, you write jokes, like as part of your living. So do you have you ever. Like you studied a girl in the mid like like you sit there and have a quick little writing session. The new hitter with some things about a sick. Well I mean I mean I'll look at a profile, but even all my question is more, so you're already talking with her. But you have some pre meditated funnies that you have plans so that like you like workman there. And it seems like you're just like that click. No, no. No. You're just act like well, they don't get them. The lunchbox isn't he what have you done? Don't you have your pick up line that you do? Sometimes way back in the day. Yeah. Maybe you need to go do that. Ellison. You're single. Well, I mean your wife knows it's just a joke, but I feel like maybe maybe a lunch function. Go do that. And try some of these, I cater mind to this. I'm looking at some of my now, will you give us an example? Just saying this is the same as it's not. No. It's not. I've learned from you guys in the last couple months is not a safe space. Just give us one. Well, it's these aren't so much jokes. But it's, it's no I'm not gonna do it. Do use your like American idol mentor. Like let me how are you? You know. Oh, I just I don't really feel like I'm gonna place now that I can share those with you, because I think, in rejected a little bit lately, and my heart doesn't a okay. Well, when you're ready. You're ready. We'll be here. I mean because I'm sure people were curious to know what Bobby pick up line is well, there's no pickup line. I cater it to this to the person. Yeah. I don't like the segment anymore. Okay. We'll the Nolan did. I made me that's my pile. It's time for the good news. This next story is near and dear to my heart, because I am colorblind. I know it's something people embarrassed. They don't want to share it. But I, I come out and put it out there. I remember once I was in bowling class in college as my one like goof off class view take an athletic activity. My teacher said, okay. We need a volunteer. You. He didn't know me. I was there. He goes, would you mind grabbing the green ball? Oh, they all say to me, anything dark looks dark, like everything over certain point dark looks, black. So I grabbed a ball and he goes no, the green ball. And I was like, all right, for Dan grabbed another one. He goes, I green, can you hear me and I was, I'm colorblind. Oh. Oh, yeah. And then someone just hates right there. And I got it and what did that dramatic? Dramatic but I'm an even with close. I have trouble matching dark colors. So when I read this story this name savannah, she's known. She's colorblind to she's twenty two years old. She spent the last two years studying to be a dental hygienist, but her instructor goes, oh, you can't tell the difference between the color of plaque and gum tissue. So you probably can't be a dentist because you can't see the difference in the color. She's like what? And so her classmates created a gofundme page, and they bought her for some of those e Chroma colorblind corrective lenses and they did. And now she wears them. She can see. And she just puts them on normal glasses. That's the I've looked in those, they don't work for me. There's all different kinds of color blindness, those glasses. Don't do anything for me, but good for her. That's cool. Yeah. Like it. And we're classmates for know you know, in that bowling instructor, he knew what he was doing. There was no green mall. Districts, national entirely would number two thirty seven skinny and John party dropped a lot of big news. He's headed out on the heartache medication tour with special guest Riley, green his next album comes out, September twenty seven and he shared the first single from the album. It's the title song heartache medication. I was talking to John because he played the American idol finale and John or actually good friends, and he was like, alien. Got the new song coming out tomorrow. Got a bunch of. And I was like, I know his dad because dad's in town. Go you hanging out all week. And that was like, we'll come up and do the show. May not have been up there a little bit. I'm coming to Joe and I was like. And I was like he had just come up. You make. See you tomorrow, I think no, we're in Los Angeles right now, but come up like Friday and he goes to bring your dad to do the show as like. Oh, I'll bring John senior. That'd be fun. So John Barney, and his dad should be up here, Friday. I can't wait to see. Have you met Johnson? You wear. John comes. It makes plenty of sense. What else Eric church performs this weekend at Nissan stadium in Nashville, and he's going to be the first solo headliner to perform without an opening act there and that stadium. It's been around for, like twenty years, I would say fairly that most shows just don't have an opening act period. I mean, most shows have an opening at created his whole, Tori, doesn't so I don't think he's going. I'm not having an open an act. It's just his tour. Yeah. But yeah, he's gonna play football crazy. Yeah. What else child's Kelly lady antebellum shared that during a salute the troops show? One of the servicemen performing with him gave him a bracelet that honor to fallen soldier. He gave it to me and said, man, if he knew that you were wearing it and beat up on stage and do this. I can't take this. This is like your friend, that dot dot also. I can't do that. He's like, trust me, this would mean so much to. Number two, that's your skinny bones. Are you following your passion? I'm Carla Marie, the host of side, Hustler's. I talked to people following their passion outside of their regular job. Everyone either has a side hustle, or wants to create a side hustle. Get inspired to start your own business, or just hear the story and hustle of every side hustler. Get motivated with side Hustler's. Listen and subscribe on the iheartradio app at apple podcasts or wherever you listen to podcasts. Buddy. Transmitting america. Right. This time of the morning, we go over to Amy who has her wildly popular segment the morning corny. Morning, Courtney, how can you tell if vampire has a cold how can you tell the vampire has a cold? He starts coughing. That was the morning. Gorny. Let's do the bachelorette left. Oh, yeah. So good. Why is she so good because she's just a re she's real real? She's just funny kind of southern she's not very well trained. So she messes up, her words like I do commercials, I mess things up. So, yes, I like her personality. She's very she's fun. I'm gonna tell you, she's really pretty like a few people have I been hung out with was that, that good looking. L braley. We'll go she's the most. I'm like, no, no, no. I don't know what her personality is. But she wait. Oh, she's a hottie strikingly Alabama Hannah. That's all you got type you're going to see some picks we were at American idol. And I was walking in and they they've earpiece to me at the time, because the whole time on that showed they ever showing how these earpieces in. Yeah. I don't really hear much going around me because they're talking about, is the whole time and I hear someone co Bobby, I love you and that doesn't happen a lot. But I look over, and it's this really pretty girl, and I'm going, oh, who. Oh, who is that? I thought it was a news reporter because there you have really pretty and I was like, I should go to the border. Like I'm single. Let me see what's up, but she loves me. Maybe that's one half the battle already done. And so I'm like you to get in the elevator the show starts in like three minutes. I'm like, hold on. We'll get back to that American idol. What even is that? We'll get back to that a minute. And so they're like, hey, you have fifteen seconds. I go on and say, hey, I'm Bobby wh-. What's your name, and she goes, you don't know me on the bachelorette? I'm Hannah I just wanted to say, hi, I'm Jay huge fan. Oh, I'm going went like what is what is happening here? And so I get in the elevator and going up. And as I've mentioned before, I'll be very delicate about this. There have been conversations about me in that show. The bachelor show, right? Just just just tall conversations. Right. And so I didn't. So I was, I was gonna hit her up on Instagram and go. I'm so sorry that I didn't get to talk to you. But she'd already message me, and I didn't know it because I have all all her from from a while ago and she was I don't even know what was something random. And so she was following me. So follow her back. Okay. Sorry. I did not mean to blow you off. They the, the show starting in like she was like, totally cool. And so we go out and we take a picture. Well, actually talking from it, and we'll take a picture. And we're we're standing out there and yeah. She's so pretty, like almost you're just going this real. Yeah. Your how did you get? So how come you get to be so pretty? And I don't I can't we meet in the middle somewhere isn't there, a middle ground for us humans that maybe aren't as pretty, and so she was super nice. And then we, we sat together for like one segment. There were like you need to go sit together up when they through to her, and the crowd, did you said that at all they throw it her? And they're like, hey, what's it like, and they're like, Bogo sit beside her to be good. That'd be good reasons. Go sit beside Alabama Hannah's. Her name. Well, yeah, that's what I mean. Googled Alabama Hannah. And. Yeah. Lunchboxes right. A lot of them Instagram name, too. So we talked for she had only been back for four days because the show just stop. Blouse update quick couldn't be any nicer. This was this fantastic. And that's it. She's gonna come to the show. Well, she was like they were like she'll call in any time, and it was like, not big on the phone interviews. I'm not big on like a ISD and interview, unless it's like Bradley Cooper, you know, but so she messaged me okay? It was great to me. You hit her back. I was like, hey, she was like, I don't wanna get too much information can come into town. It's like cool. Come on. She was like, I'll be there. No doubt. So it was good. She's nice. She was now, you're friends with the bachelorette. She was friends me more than us. Friends like to see her church, your direct messages before the show you man could of what it mean before the bachelor, he could have been. I don't think so. I think Bobby and Hannah. I don't think so. But she's a huge Alabama fan. Yeah. She says roll tide a lot, especially she says a lot. So she say anything to you, like, you know, in case you're considering doing this. All I'm gonna say is there's a good time. We had a good time is fine. We hadn't Mike's onto. So even we weren't on camera. People can always hear us. So I had to kind of go don't say anything you don't want to be out there. And so this is the move like stock on the Mike. The move as you pull out your phone and you write it on your phone in front of them and outside. Right. A message and that's show her and then she'd pull. And then she would could you can't say it, because my microscope, baller, I know my only point of this whole conversation is, she's she was super nice and super hot super hot. Yeah. Very pretty. Very pretty so like top-five hottest you've ever seen in person. I'd have to think about that list, but I don't I don't know. But she's up there. She's very pretty bad Turner. She's a million followers that bachelor show man. Watch it. Vollers like, but it was good. Really good. They went on a pageant date. Like we're all the guys had to be Mr. Paget and this dude, Luke. It's a second day, and he tells her I'm falling in love with you. Listen, I don't know if like ten minutes, I was like. Holy crap. Was on this show. One of the girls like that could be a girl that. Yeah. Oh, sorry. Now, high ver- Instagram playing in the background. But the okay so she is the bachelorette because she was rejected girl from the bachelor. So you're like this could be the kind girl, you could mean if you ever did the show. I just think or you can meet her like this. Cool. That's funny with Amy. This is a little behind the scenes on Amy. She goes, she texted me last night, about a few things at once and it's hard to get Amy on text anymore. I mean I used to be right out of and now she's. What are those things called? Do you have kids? Right. So she has kids. And so when I get it, I get that window where he's texting we just go over a bunch of stuff, and she was like, hey, why don't you date or I think he's engaged probably the way she was like, oh, good point. That doesn't always work out. I know but to wait. I tried to get I'm trying to find about right now. Okay. This is bad. Glad to know that she's as hot as she is impertinent. She looks nicer pretty people. Here's thing I'll tell you guys this. There's a lot of people who cares. Who cares? What matters? It's, it's cool like people that are like super nice and cool. And she was super nice and cool. And she'll come to the show, and I believe she's come to town for CNA fest. Okay. That's real soon. Yeah. Come on show, whenever and they just ways you come to town. We're not in her to get anybody on. All right. We got the listeners like that bit this good. I enjoyed the bit. I got I have a lot of stories show. Tell them who went to dinner with or. No not right now. Or is that too much namedrop? He you be the judge Amy because I can hold up for a bit Amy, you know. Yeah. Yeah. Is it to namedrop hanging? I don't I think if you're sharing it from point of view of like holy crap. I know like even when you were sharing it when we were talking about it. I was just like I don't even know if I texted to you, but in my head, I'm like, what is bobby's life right now? Thinking that too. So I don't think you're coming from a place they go. It's popular just seven hundred right. As long as it's coming for place of like, not like, oh bragging Brady, look, who I went to dinner with, but more of a place like why was I even at this dinner and what the why was there? But I didn't know that, that. Right. But like what is my life right now? So I think it's fine. And you. I mean because I was like. What's this person, do they everywhere? People. Well, some, some of them though make sense. Yeah, it was lying. Katie makes sense. I work with them on American idol. Yeah. But still. Crazier crazier. Wow. Maybe maybe maybe less than that. So. So. Listen to this show right now, if you're new to the show, let me explain to you. I'm a food stamp kid population. Seven hundred graduate class of forty people amount, pine Arkansas. Opposite a yard sale for school close kind of guy, and all of a sudden dinner with this person, I'm going. I've been hanging out with Hannah Alabama Hannah. Yeah. Weezer trailer later on that. And I told that story and then dinner and I'm and I have to tell somebody like can tell them not thinking I'm bragging more like holy crap is Amy. So I'm like, you'll never goes I've ever dinner with. All right. You'll tell us later, maybe, but then, also you should share, like everyone's at dinner with this person, and this person and this person, and then say, who you're with. Oh, that's why I'm telling you making fun of myself. Okay. Like. Long. I'm walking fine line here because I come from everybody that's listen to the show like I'm the but I've been working. And now I'm starting to go into weird land. And I get to do weird stuff now because some of my jobs allow me to with people that are like super cool famous, and I'm the one that's a why am I here, but then I can move with great stories, and then have to be careful what I share. Right. And then you tell us all of it. You gotta tell us all. Yeah. Now when you're with Lionel and Katie who reaches for the Bill. The American idol. Oh, I was like that could get awkwardly that best storyteller. You got Lionel Richie to sit back gonna magin should making us the year. Nineteen seventy four Aretha Franklin was down music comes out, by the way that greatest maybe account propound the greatest human I've ever met. Little recap day did of him hugging. Everybody was so cute. I was like, oh my gosh didn't realize how many hugs he passed out Bosley, the best Hugh mug hug ever. Lionel richie. This week on ephemeral, what Becker collectors collected was stuff that had to do with the story of America country blues jazz gospel. But the immigrant stuff to ethnic stuff the record collector is standing there in your living room with your grandparents records in his hand and he hands the back to you and goes sorry, it's nothing here. I can use really dollar a piece now signs. Anybody wants? So then what happens to you throw them away. That guy doesn't want the nobody wants them. Listen to a federal on apple podcasts, the iheartradio app or wherever you listen to podcasts, and learn more and federal dot show. I wanna talk about this real quick. Is this your name is Ellie? Is that right? He li-. How do you say? L. E E. Oh, is that a big difference? How are you, bud? I'm doing good. How are you? I'm real good. And I think you bring up a valid point because it's all you text to the show, and this is not just a me thing, but it's a lot of artists when you go to the concert problem, but talk about what you text them. So pretty much me in one of my best friends, we're talking about being Hugh. It was like, yeah. Go ahead and get tickets. And my work schedule kind of didn't really allow me to get tickets at ten o'clock. So I'll wait is just a little bit longer. And he's talking about for the raging idiots Eddie. And I are doing a music comedy tour and the raging idiots touring all through summer and fall. And so you couldn't get them, right then? But then what happened? So went back, I don't know, a couple of hours later, they all down and only resale. Tickets were available for two hundred and ninety nine dollars a piece. Which is what I like to speak on not just our situation. But in general, first of all, we aren't were two hundred ninety nine dollars, so don't even think about that. I'll tell you what to allow put you on hold what show. Are you going to the Richmond show? The rich Eisen show. If there are tickets left, if I can grab a couple of tickets. I, I know that show sold out, but let me put you on hold. And if there are I'll get you couple of tickets for, for all my guys. Thanks minute, before you start crowning me mister, nice guy America, I need to make sure there are tickets left because sometimes they'll have golds, but if so, I'll do that. But let me say this. What happens is, as soon as tickets go on sale, two places any concert, if they chose to sell out or good seats. These scalpers go in. They buy all the good seats, they can as fast as possible, and they just hold them and then resell them, like crazy, and it's not the artists fault ever. Like I say you wanna see Luke cones, and you're like I couldn't get good loops tickets and other eight hundred dollars that's not Luke combs as fall. Don't, don't get mad at Lou combs home to sell the tickets. And this is why ticket prices continue to go up because people will go. I don't want people having to pay five hundred bucks for tickets. So if we make our ticket a little more expensive. Let's say Luke go. Let's make our ticket ninety dollars. Would you go? Wow, that's crazy. But he's like, well, because then maybe the scalpers won't buy all of them thinking they can sell them. So it's a weird thing. So don't be mad at the artist because the the resale tickets are so much also trick. Number two, if. You wait to the day of the show, a lot of times I do releases on tickets because they'll have holds and then they can they put them out the day of its a good life hat. Yeah. And just don't be mad at the artists when the resales are so bad. And I'm saying this about me too, because I hate that happened. But that's just the general thing for concert. So that's what it is my open. I'm outta meet ally. No, sir. No, not at all. And if you hold on, we'll get your number and I will check and if I have any tickets, I will make sure you get to come to the show. But if I don't you will not get to come to the show. I'm new land that all out there right now. I want you won't be as honest possible, but not a problem at all. A problem at all. Thanks. Hey. I appreciate you listening. I hope that was kind of an explanation of what happened in hopefully. I'll see you soon. I'm going to put you on hold. Don't hang up. Yes, sir. Okay. There is. But that's the case on the happens a lotta times. Now you try to get tickets. And they're like four times a ticket amount scout. Moore's by them, and go, oh, these are going to be in demand in three weeks or sometimes like ours. Because a lot of our sold super-quick day of the show. So anyway, there's that we do have the girl group coming up in a second. Let me mention this. Come to our show. Got a raging idiots dot com. Denver and Chicago where we started this whole thing off Austin's almost sold out, Little Rock. There's, there's a lot of cities, raging idiots dot com. We're talking about wedding dresses in a second. And what do you do with your wedding dress after the divorce that's on the way. What the thing. Yeah, we're gonna bring the girl group in for that. Also, Amy saw avengers. Yeah. I saw of injures nuts. I thought it was really good and my kids, loved it. And I just thought it was too long. It was too long till I kept hearing. Oh, it's three hours. You won't even know it. I knew it. Yeah. Me too. I know it. Two hours in one minute in I was like is this already three hours got no, my daughter was so into it like she loves movies and she loved it. But like when it first started and time I tell her three hours, but she doesn't really know that, that's that long. So she hadn't appeared at the very beginning, but it started, and she didn't wanna miss a thing. So when the credit started rolling she got up and made a beeline for the bathroom. And I'm like, why didn't you get up and go? She goes, I didn't want to miss anything to she held it the entire movie like not that young blood. No. But I mean, I'm just not that into it where I like can't take a quick bathroom break. Like I won't go to the bathroom in the movie. Oh, no circumstance. To the bathroom of him, one of those fight scenes, you could totally going to come back and they would assume a fighting win. The paper read all the Twitter. I was like, yeah, just cut a little bit out of here. I could trimmed on that movie. So vast would have been amazing. And like one episode, but maybe the same thing but good good. I never cried though. Neither. I didn't either who I thought, okay? I'm waiting for waiting for it. But I think, honestly, I was just like I'm so ready? Just go. I mean cried when credit. But yeah, I didn't cry. And I thought, it's the thing wrong with me right now because I'm a I'm a feeler like I should be crying guy. I didn't either, but it was good. I get what, what did you give it what letter grade? Not, not do like number Thors, light letter grade, though for real. Same time one two three. Oh, wow. I didn't go a plus, but I wouldn't I okay, I won't be plus. Yeah. That was good. I I love like I love iron man. I love captain America. You know, they're like to my favorite, those movies, aside them by themselves. So I love when they're all hanging out together. I never saw the captain marvel win. So she shows up and I'm like, who is this leading? This is like a random hero that showed up. I recommend it. But there was a lot of hype. Yeah. I avoided the spoiler for like a month. And I've proud of myself. No, I don't wanna ruin it. Working in a temporary studio at tiller new studio gets built. So another. Toine. They may twenty first June a month and a half. Yeah. This place is so hot. No, it doesn't always saying. Sauna in here. I can make a poll. How can I am? I supposed to wear three sweaters and feel good. Yeah. Remove your. What are you trying to give me a negative here? Now the why. K. Nope. By the way, tried not to work in a cooler. And we'll tell you now that I'm done with all this TV stuff. For awhile about to go full. Well, then yeah. Then you won't be so cold. That's also another reason bright, skinny, don't know. Never mind. That would be the opposite. Nevermind, exactly don't. He don't. He's. Warm in here. Everybody's here I got this for you. So it's this is mostly about a wedding dress. And then what happens already this, if you don't mind? Bobby? Hey, why don't this is a mailbag? So. Why don't I make this mill bay before we get to the girl group here? I so the question is Bobby, what do I do with my wedding dress after a divorce? And so she goes on. She goes, I thought, maybe the girls on the show could help me I got divorced last year after being married for three years. I just got to the point where I'm genuinely happy in my life. Again. I moved to a new house and was going through my old things whenever I found my wedding dress. I've been trying to decide what to do with it. I wonder what the girls on the show would do this from an Email, would you donate it or sell it to another bride? Or do you feel like the wedding dress is cursed? All right. So that's the mailman. Band, and with that Email, we're bringing in the girl group here who is Amy Morgan, number two, and utility, Hillary. Here they are. Should I hold onto it for cinema reasons or trash it? That's what the. First of all, Amy, how are you? Hey, I'm doing good. I am thirty eight. I said, I was thirty seven but if thirty eight years old, I've been married, twelve years. And I am currently sipping a macho Lahti which by the way you know what? I, I don't know what a much a lot day is green, though. Right. Marches green tea, it's a green tea powder. This macho logically, little smoothie because in your honor new anyone died, but having your honor, okay and it's not so bad. I don't even know what's good about it. But I think if aiming there's, there's a lot of antioxidants in Masha that are good for you live. I do WWE. But would Amy do. Got at night. You number two. How are you doing? Good. I am twenty five years old. And I'm very single very stadi- five-time, dude, he's, he's still in the picture. But I'm still very single but then we'll do five times, and you're still very single that works. I am. You know, I go out of six time with him. Yes. But I'm going mode. Remember so to me. Mode. But it's fun. Yeah, I'm recently obsessed with the artist. Liz oaks? I'm just feeling that girl power right now. Recco, so good. That's a good rally guys good and over tomorrow. She does a lot of things she works in the glass room. She works in the production room. She's all over. She. That's why we call our utility Hillary not like Bob, the builder but more so like utility, Hillary Hillary our. I'm I'm twenty six and even though I worked for a morning show. I am not a morning person at all. Same with me. I can't go to sleep at night. I can't go to sleep. I can't wake up. Yeah. Same here. I know I just in another place in my head of embed. Okay. Let's go here. The question is, what does she do at their wedding dress? And then you heard the Email your thoughts. Well, I don't think a particular item of clothing can be cursed. And for me, I would hold onto it just in case like it's still like a huge part of your life like you got married. That's like a big thing that happened. And I know divorce is not any fun at all. But I would just still hold onto it in the back of my closet, put it in a bag. Put in the attic, you don't have to look at it all the time, but just have it just in case what, if what if you rekindle things that this person in, you'll have a second marriage, or I don't know if you've got kids, but like my mom got divorced, but she still had the wedding dress that she married. My dad and I always thought it was cool that she still had it as her kid. Now they were married three years don't have they have kids? But I'm also thinking of that angle too, of like just holding onto something that was part of like a really big day. Even if it didn't turn out the way you. Wanted it to Morgan. Number two. I'm I'm going trash it. I am all about good and bad vibes. And that, like a divorce is bad vibes to me. And she says she's in a great place in her life in keeping it means that, she, you know, she has to keep that bad energy around her. And I think if she gets rid of it, she one hundred percent move on does not have to think about it again. Just going on with her life over the grow group, Hillary utility, Hillary, your thoughts, I would say donated I feel like there's so many brides out there who can't afford a wedding dress weddings are so expensive. So if the dress doesn't really mean anything to near looking to get rid of it. I would one hundred percents say, donate it to somebody. Adjust Kent, Ohio. I think. I meant to say that you should burn it and bury the app. You just want to end the life of the dress, because you into the life of the marriage exactly the marriages that. So the dress deserves a proper burial as well. Wow. Okay. So spiteful made probably, so he's a jerk right now all always always guys fall in my opinion carry a national what he's Inc. The morning, sunshine. I loved mine in the closet, after I took all my clothes out and thirteen years marriage, and he can do whatever you want with it. So you just let it to him. Yeah. I need it. I didn't want it. I I don't look backwards. I look forward and I was like, you know, this is going to stay right here. Okay. Shelley virginia. Hi, how are you? Good. I mean, think about other caller ahead throwing but new studio. Sorry, sorry, last caller. I bet go ahead. I sold my wedding dress to another bride at a yard kill for twenty five dollars. Wow. Did you sell it reasonably priced because to you? That's about what that marriage was worth twenty five bucks. Perhaps I just I I wanted to get rid of it. So I thought that was a fair price. Well, I thank you very much for joining a girl group discussion. Thanks for listening. Bye bye. Listen everyone we we're here. You'll have three different opinions. I, I think all our all our reasonable except for Amy's why it's just gonna hang out of a look at it. I didn't say, hang it up and look at put it in. Talk to you got it. Well, it's not what I said, you're being a hoarder, and you're holding onto a bed memory. I mean, I guess it doesn't necessarily spark joy. Yeah. Merie condo. But like I said, I mean, you those are two winters today. Our mortgage over to Hillary. I just wanted we wanted to hoarding and to you could wind dress. It's not hoarding. You can put it away. I mean, what if you need a wedding dress on neighbor's? Can you imagine? If I was if Amy you've been married before, and I was like, Amy, let's get married. And you're like, Dan, you showed up and address, what's not not for like your own new winning but know nothing else. It's time for the good news. Man. This is the story about you save a life. And then I'm going to save a life. These two veterinarians. They had a kid that was born with a hole in his heart had have a seven hour surgery. So the surgeon performs the surgery kids. Okay. Well, come to find out the surgeons dog has the exact same conditions. So the vet said, hey, you saved our son's light, bring the dog on hitting me and they perform the surgery and save the dogs line. Wow. Wow. And now the kids that don't have our best friend horse. They are. They have to be that's the rule. Do you have to be together now now? That's a good one. That's a good run. That was telling me something good. Your buddy miss the five. Transmitting across America. Right. George the old town road music video. I haven't now bunny do I need to sell. So. Okay. Yeah. Tim, Billy Ray never funny, and that song, listen, all the country music, establishment, hate on it. All they want it just it's such a good song. Oh, Billy Ray Cyrus is in it just watch the video, I was reading the story about it. And apparently little gnaws X spent only thirty dollars to record that song when he first did it awesome. And he bought the beat off of YouTube. So what it Keough do kill. I think he'll produced it. Okay. Okay. Because that's why the name Keough yelled in there. Yeah. Here. Billy Ray Hopson town ruin good for Billy Ray to hopping in there. I just got a text here that says please play flame by lane. Hardy that song as bop? I don't know there ever heard of the song. I'll be honest with you. I was on stage and he was singing it. You don't hear crap up there. He wins American idol and using the original song. I never heard it prior, and then they're like, hey, should walk onstage with all the top ten and like dance. And it only hear anything and so I, I still have yet to hear the lane hearty song who won American idol. So I guess if it's up Mike, do you can put it up. I'd be anxious to give it a listener. Right. And my idle time comes to an end as far as the season. It was it was great. I tell you the coolest story from the finale was we were we had a thirty minute break because I, I did a bunch in the first three segments. I was like, hey, they're going to be good is what they need to do. I talked to the Ryan and they let me promote the raging idiots tour on American idol which, by the way, by the way, they were just throwing me a bone. There have been so nice. They were like Bobby go talk about whatever you want. And I'm like, it's the finale of American idol. They're like take thirty minutes. Thirty minute thirty seconds. Okay. Go up with Ryan and talk about the raging idiots tour and how you're taking Walker boroughs out. Is this on the internet or on TV joke? They're like on TV. It's I'm up. I'm like, hey, the raging idiots writing it his dot com, go all over the we're playing everywhere. And if so nice them. And so, after that, there were so many people that were playing the show like Dan and shave. So I went over to their trailer and talk to them, because they're like, oh, gee, friends. And so talk to them. I talked to carry for a little bit. She was in the back and she was an carries the nicest. And the thing with Kerry, what? Because she's so nice Madison. The guy who was in the top three it was like alad love to meet Carrie Underwood like just have a conversation and a new cares about five minutes from going on. And I was like, well, let me go check on up to carry and I was like, hey, talk for a minute. And I said he would talk to of course, this is how nice Carrie Underwood is. And this one nobody was watching by the way, she I talks to Madison just moments before she goes to perform on stage in front of ten million people watching an American idol, and then she comes offstage and she walked to the little room where all the contestants myself in the cameras are. And she just an ex picture for everybody for like ten minutes. She could have easily just put her ears back in, or it got in walked out, she didn't. And she didn't have to, and there were no cameras. And she talked to them all and, you know, I think a lot of the stuff that the super nice artists do they don't do it to be seen. And it's never heard of. But I got to witness Carribean, so nice to a bunch of kids, who just wanted to meet Carrie Underwood. And she didn't she sat there with them for as long as they wanted to. Talk. It's awesome. Yeah. Then she went went about away, but Kerry was so kind, and for me weezer was they're playing, and I love weezer. I love love love. Weezer. Well, here's there's no but I have my own producer on American idol who is just my producer her and I are together all season and she's also weezer fan. And so she was like, which album and I was like, well, the blue one, because that's when I was a kid I was a teenager in rivers was a nerd and I was a nerd and I wear my glasses because basically him buddy Holly to, like, okay, and so I get there. She buys a vinyl of the blue album, and she loved the green album. And so we're going to go to their trailer because I jump is talking to John party. He was playing weezer and so we go up tweezers trailer, and knock on the door. And if you're just cool, everybody just assumed it should be there just in general in life. If you just act like opposed to be somewhere people are just like, oh, you're supposed to be here to cool. So knock on the Wieder trailer. And on the inside my heart like this, but on the asset. On the asset. I'm like, what's up be? Jeez. Yeah. Cool. Right. And so I know who all for the guys in the band are some good. And so since just walk on the trailer on. Well, I see one of them outside and I was like this is my move. I'm like everybody else inside. And he's like, yeah. Osama go up sale. Cool cool again, I would do this to so few people, but I love weezer. And so I'm like, and so I do this to I don't just knock in wait, I go over there. Okay, good. Okay. Bye, decent come on, in, because they just think it supposed to beat there. So we will walk in the trailer guy must be filling up our fridge. Three stock in our stuff. And since I know the other people in the band to like know who they are. I'm like, what's I haven't seen you bit and, and a bit confused, but a bit. They're like, oh. I guess he's supposed to be here. And so I'm like, hey, can I get this? I guess I may want to get to as me. A little boy. Was his name, Bobby listenable, he's been sick. No. I didn't do that. But I was like handling. I came up here. I don't mind sign is forum. And so they all side and I have a competition with a couple of them. In rivers is practicing dude rivers Cuomo and he's got black glasses on and he's, he's like washing his hands but it puts us guitar on. And he's singing Africa, just in the trailer like warmness voice. And I'm going holy crap. I'm standing next to rivers is he sing in Africa. And he thinks I'm like, his bud. He can't he doesn't know what from where things I'm like, and so, say, what up and I was like, hey, may have a good show. I got to go back out and I did the whole thing. I gotta go back out and be on the show to in not trying to be cool. And so they were like all right, man Seattle there. And so I got the blue album side. Yeah. And my producer, Tari I got the green album signed, and I was like I gave him the, the bro. Hogs. I walked out the trailer we walked away, and she was like, well, that was the weirdest thing is he just had you belong, people don't want to tell you don't. Yeah. They're nervous to go. You don't belong here. If you act like you do so wish she sort of there with you or heads it onto. She looks like totally official. Well, she never takes off in case like Winnie, Bobby here at this point. Right. But she had a clipboard and a headset, and we totally went and I was just like all right. We're about to be part of the group, and they believed it, and it was awesome. And I didn't get a picture no pictures, because if you get picture then you're not one of the grill your fan at that point. Right. And so I was like, alright. Alright alright cuckoo as? As I said, I gotta get back gotta get back on the ship, and then I saw them, there were walking inside, and they were still confused as to who I was. But they felt like they shouldn't have been to give us like what's up, what's up? They were like stand high again. And I was like have I've good the good deal and anyway, that was it wa- posted. I mean it's a story, Mr. Bobby bones. I mean not be up anymore, but I was like, I'm going to go find weezer, and then I put you're supposed to picture of the son record. I was like, because I was with them and I couldn't ask for a picture. But I'm like, I'm a fan. I'm still a fan boy of so many people. And that's one of them is risking going all or nothing when you walk up. Yeah, they're gonna get tackled or they're going to make you part of the show. Yeah. And I was hoping it'd be like, hey, you wanna come back. I thought when when rivers was warming, you were started singing with them, you're going to do a little harmonies Alyssa. I was so into. That sounds good. You want to hop on. But Walker boroughs who's out on the American idol on the raging. Idiots eddie. And I sang with weezer like he gassing with them, and I was like, boy, you're taking a big step back. You go from seeing with towards. Grazing idiots, but it was funny. That's funny story that is I wouldn't recommend that all the time. I'd I've only done that a couple times ever. I just show up some more and I'm like, yeah. Everybody good. Let me give him potato chips. You gotta so fit in right? And you sort of already. I mean, you were you belonged on that set. You had a producer with you, like you already belonged, like I would encourage someone who didn't have access to anything to try to like weasel their way in their like walk up on a microphone, just in the studio. It'd be like I'm here for my talk. But we're like all right. Why not? Yeah. Also hung out with. Guys, tall he maybe six seven or six eight. He's a monster. Nice guy. But I, I did that he knew I wasn't born group. He knew right away. Yeah. Yeah. He is six six eight. It was a zero chance. I was walking into Mantell trailer NBA. Guess what's up? You guys still good because they've been like wait. What? And so. A little different look like this. Like I'm nerdy and geeky Montesquieu with cool and. So it was a whole thing, but he was super nice. I can post picture on like Twitter or Mr. Bobby bones, and they're super nice. It's was super nice talking to them for a while, and he came out and did that that song on idol. Now, this is how we do. Laura in Texas. What's happening, Laura and Texas. The Laura Bobby looking into the show for the first time. And I'm lobbying gonna keep on with me. Not that I'm shocked by a first time ever listened, but usually nobody likes us the first time that because we don't well, hold on. Let me explain Laura before you are so stunned. We don't have good radio voices, for just basically a group of friends sitting around the table. We don't really sometimes we don't even play songs. Sometimes we play a lot of songs there, just isn't really a formula to what we do and people get annoyed because we're not like, you know, big voice DJ's, or like a big corporate put together show, you know, I think that's what I love interesting. I work from home. So I'm never in the car in the morning and today, I'm in the car in the morning and I'm joined it. Not only was this your first, listen you, call Joe and got through on your first time I did. You recognize voice. I did. I recognized the voice, and I said, I know that y'all and the lawn Faulk are you from Austin? I'm from San Antonio. You go to college. But let's while she might have UTSA. Let's see. I, I know I should say and way remember me, but I literally wrapped his car, and you newspaper one time and he was on the subtle when he thought every like move car is at wrapped in newspaper. To be right now. Did you guys make out? No, we didn't. Dorm as me and it was a very good point. Yeah. I know this is yeah. Well, yeah, we, we did a little bit of a prank wars and college. Well, there you have it. And you remember lunchbox, what was he like at UTSA awesome? On what he was sweet and very bad posture. That's very bad. He still walks with a hunch, so some things never change. Well, listen, Laura. We appreciate you. And thanks for listening. Thanks for calling. That's really nice. There you go. How about that? I watch game of thrones last night. I know you guys aren't big thrones. Couldn't a loved it more. I don't know. But he's a hater. They had this whole thing where there were like let's make all the writers rewrite the season. That's not how it works. You don't get it's not choose your own adventure. You watch the show and then you can choose a like it or not like it. But I tend to like, when things don't work out like everyone wants them to work out how life is live. Like that. We don't get to do. We always want to do sometimes a little bit happens if it does. But I am the greatest at avoiding spoilers. Didn't know what happened and the, the question was how long until you spoil something. And if it's a news if it's big enough to be on the news was game of thrones was even on the front of CNN dot com. What happened? Then you there's, I'm not gonna talk about it, but you can it's okay to talk about it. If it's the Super Bowl, you talk about it, if it's a live event, the American idol finale, it's you can talk about it, the fr- ending of friends that you can talk about it. To that level. If it's a movie, not because not everybody's there. You have to go to a movie. So we have big ratings if you add in all the replays an early streaming because I only watch it on streaming. I don't even know what channel channel anything HBO yellow, my TV. No. But I mean I don't know what channel it is on the number. Yeah. Oh. And I'm so I'm so lazy now. There's how lazy I am. When TV I get my remote at home for some reason you can push a button and his yell at it. And by the way, I used to push the button, and then yell at the TV I didn't realize the speaker Ramon. John game of thrones, and it would change within one of our friends at the house today. And I was like, gave it was like dude, you microphones on your remote. Why are you yelling at the TV then it'd be like game of thrones and it was so much more efficient and changing over. Yeah. And so I was in a hotel last week in California doing that show. And the fact that I couldn't yell at my remote and talk to it made me so mad. I just watch Martin on BT for a week. I never changed it couldn't in talking to my revote who knows what, what are those numbers. Mean how'd you find channels anymore? Hotels have does little menus that are we like is, what would happen. I hate per menu. No, no on the TV. In Maya Lopez talked you the whole talk turn it on. You're like, hey. That game here all the movies coming out, then week March their one thousand nine hundred nine current so I don't know the game. I loved it. It was great. The end. No spoiling did that last night. As soon as I got home, got off a plane didn't even exercise. Felton needed a night off and did the did the game of thrones. Then slept like a baby. That's awesome. I took it pill though. I still slot like. Yeah. He didn't even need medicine time zones are off. So I did not going to lie, but I did sleep good woke up feeling good this morning, after the finale of American idol. Most of the co people get have a car service, and now I just call it Uber because I'd rather just Uber and save the money. So I go to hit my phone Uber car. Pulls up jump in it, we go. And then we're supposed to go to this restaurant and have dinner, and we're going, and I don't really know my way around Los Angeles. I'm not a Los Angeles guy. But I'm like, I don't think this is the right way. But I wanna question that Uber driver. He's the expert would you go to the doctor and be like, ou don't poke me there right now. No wouldn't do that. Poke whenever he wants. Hey, yeah. Thank you. And so we're going, and I'm like I should say something I question the expert. And I'm like, hey. I think we're going the wrong direction. And when I get in the I'm always scared now that I'm not getting in it. So I was go over and they go. Yes. And then I get in because you don't jump in the wrong car. Just have a car. That's not even Uber smart. I just get in. I don't because I'm smart are being more cautious. Overthrowing. I'm like Uber. And he goes, yes. And then I get in the way we we're going the wrong way going the wrong way. And I go. I don't think we're going the right way. And he goes, we're going to Burbank. Right. And I was like, no. And he turns around and looks at me. And he goes, are you, not Jacqueline. No. Of course he wanted to Jacqueline. Looks like me. Like Jack Jacqueline of your life. Looks like a nerd, you know. Oh, no. So would y'all do he did his actually it was quite a process? You have to turn it off the on his thing. Then I got all my clothes off. Oh. You got taken advantage of that's not. He has to turn it off. And you gotta redo the thing and they show up, but yeah, and I guess when I got in the car we made eye contact. And I said Hoover, he assumed hit is a giant assumed albums, another California Jagellon LA. So we got there. And then you went to dinner and then are you going to talk about dinner? I can. Yeah. Yes. Yes. Yes. He should you. Sure. Yeah. I think it's fine. Okay. Let me get my button, ready here. Mike, can you? I have my, my named the oh yeah, yeah. There's like so many named drought. He knew exactly where I was going to Mike took his hand and put on my hand and then the lead me right to this button name. Okay. For those that haven't been listening to the show long. My name's Bobby. I never got too much cold things in life. Now I get to do some cool things and we finished the American idol finale, and they say, we're going to this dinner, I don't know who's going to the dinner. I don't know if it's like all the crew the all my producers if all the singers were going, and then what you're going to this place, so drive over the place and get out, and there's a big guy at the door. Nice of a restaurant, where to house or no house restaurant, and full black and not t-shirt, but almost like a tuxedo without the time. Wow, this is like the movie and, you know, we mean business and they get out and he goes bones, and I'm like, yeah. And so we, we, you can bring a date with you. And again, I dunno heavy this is, and so I'm like, all right. Up. Bring in with me. So I go, and he's like come with me. And we want the restaurant, and he's like, don't look around because people are eating just walked we walked go onto its private table. And guess who's the first one there me like idiot? I'm the first one that everything the two executive producers were there. The people that run the show, but I was the first per so it's me, Luke and his wife. It's basically it's the judges right? It's me, Luke, and Caroline, who. I know. Well, and Lionel, and his girl, and Katy Perry, and Orlando bloom. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Wow. Let me tell you that nicest guy, really best looking guys, British accent, nicest. I don't even know accident is I don't care bloom out. It was I who ever wanted that night, because they're him or Alabama. Hannah out have been happy about. Freddie. But I told Amy. I'm going to say it's on the air. How will say what, you know, in the conversation or anything, but he was super nice and super chill. And we just sat around and talked and Lionel's degrades, nicest human being ever, and that's it. So like what doesn't do you order when you're order to bring out food, just bringing food out like it's rude? It's just like boom sit in front of you that they've ever family style. Nope. Hey, line all the Orlando meatballs. That you'll bloom, but yeah, really, really came up. Everybody was saying. Hi, I'm buying. It was like, hey, man. Really nice to meet you at the beginning. I was like, Bobby, he goes. Oh, he and who you all are, what is that? I trust you super nice, but I was sitting there eating and I'm like man kids in high school when the picked on me so much. And then the next exactly what was he in? How he's from all these movies. Yeah. He's from United Kingdom. He's from Canterbury. Is that where the chocolates from the rabbit? Came in common with Lou. I love Easter, and let me tell you brought a lot of joining me. Wow. Yeah. So it's crazy who is your date. So Tom, my friend. Oh my goodness. I know day person that had like a date. Day ahead, anyone that if I haven't anyone I would've taken them because I didn't really especially knows I was going to look, cool because I ain't cool and but yeah. Tom's like works management, whatever. And I was like, hey man, just come. We'll just go like Jill. And, and we get there and got their day. Thom he was so awkward awkward. What awkward? But I was the only one loser, at least Tom's, cool. Yes. Yes. Yeah. Wow. I here on show, but Tom who, you know, did people think you and Tom, Tom in Tom? Oh, I don't think we were like. But I just think you I've been happy that would have at least I want to look, so lonely, I just had to bring my buddy. I'd rather than Bobby brought his boyfriend this goal. No. Like, I guess, Bobby doesn't have anyone. So I know physical and then I just, here's the true story, too. I just don't do super. I don't feel like I fit in with people that are way, cool, the different level because I left that party when it was over. And everybody went home. I went to the the crew party with like all the staff. And I was like now, like now, you know, the, the work can be. Yeah. So anyway, that was that's, that's fun. It's a good. I love it. All right. That's a wrap for that we go with that segment. Yeah. Segments. Else. Anybody wants to say, right? A here are your top three songs in country music this week, actually at number three. It's whiskey glasses. Nason. Now is. At number two Kane Brown. Good as you. Babri day. That's a jam. Is it just me now it's? Favorite of his songs? Two. Baby. As you. And then number one this week, he li- young ban. Loving. The biggest pop song is dancing with a stranger from Sam Smith in nor Mani. That's me every time I go to club. And Morgan over to like Morgan helped me, I'm dancing with them stranger. Ali like dudes that are fans of the show on it come up, and like dance and talk like they don't know how to talk on the dance floor. So they start dancing with me is a little, too low odd. Not the data that dude, I'll dance with anybody. Like just we're all dancing around. But it's like big fan. I'm a cool other like talk to the side, we have to dance. Yeah. Yeah. So there's been this are dancing with me, and then they'll get a selfie now Mike. Absolutely. Because then maybe we'll stop dancing. Always a weird thing. And I listen I love we will come up. Listen to the show. But yet. Yeah, you and I am now at the point in my life. I'm comfortable just to go dance by myself. Would you go that Morgan? Number two. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I just go dance. And then I guess I'll leave openings. And so, you know, herald comes up, like, hey, big fan of the show, and is it a stain and there while I'm dancing dances, with me? Oh, yeah. A little bit of like what's up here? What an old man named. You're like twenty four. How about let's see hip hop. Look back at it the number one song, look back at it from a boogie hoodie. Okay. God, boogie would he's sound like a booger, doesn't it? Yeah. A buggy back seen never noticed before God. And the number one comedy song Jesus notes from the raging idiots look at us. When you're on red lied to. When you feel your water Cup with soda. Past him. No. In your own Iran. Jesus no hole. Download that in stream then about that. Those are your big songs this week. There's a new episode of the cast that's up. It's an interview show that I do from my house and Judah from Judah and the lion. Came by is this song with Casey must grave sculpt pictures. This is a big one for them. The number one song for like four weeks. So search Bobby casts wherever you listen to podcasts. I told you I kind of fell in love with them. And because he like advertising five points, a game playing basketball at the highest level. He biz. He great baseball player. Got a baseball scholarship. I got offered to walk on at Belmont. You were that good of a basketball player. I was. Yeah. At the time. So what what are we talking about average per game game? There was like twenty four. Oh my goodness. Just going to twenty what? What class ball is this? There was five cook Glasgow us average over twenty points, a game in a good God shot it a lot though, as you can see. Yeah. Like super athlete. But and even the music he made he found out that, that song take it all back was on Christmas day. That's when he found out, it was number one, I try not to look at the charts. But are you watching climbing, and you're like, oh, we're definitely watching it happened on Christmas day. Really? But we found out on Christmas day that it was like the number one, and then dab the two weeks to those really, really cool. Nicole go. Check it out. Bobby gas. That crowd there s from a show that you for the right phone out the singing in the background. And there's woman Jay DeMarcus, rascal Flatts. You listen to that one. I did. Yeah. It's really good July. I did. Yeah. Find anything interesting about it. I think just I didn't know he grew up similar to you. I didn't know he had this, like, work ethic that he was kind of a workhorse that he like, made all happen. I've found like how rascal Flatts came to be really interesting funny when he was, like my cousin things because he was out here really trying to make it work. And then his cousins winning contests in Ohio, so he's like, okay. Yeah, please and his mom otherwise cousins, Gary, lavar leasing singer, flats, his mom, she is, basically, like you know, you're you're meeting with your cousin end of story. It's happening. I promised, you know, whatever her her like their mom their moms arranged it. She's jas. Like, okay, my cousins wanted karaoke contests. Come on my mom. They have to listen to you sing. And then I song he sang was one last cry by Brian McKnight. And he just stopped me in my tracks. I mean. He opens his voice in you hear that come out of him. It's other worldly. I mean side striving in the book is all of these ingredients of gospel and R&_B in country rolled up into one. I'd never heard anything quite like it before. So it turns out is pretty good. But those are just the last two episodes of the Bobby cast and Opie check that out and just start Bobby cast wherever wherever you listen to your podcasts. All right. Morgan coming to you. It's time for food world with Morgan number two. So crispy cream has a Donut fill with creamy salted egg. It's only in Thailand right now, but there's a chance that could come to the United States. Like what kind of eggs cooked? Like, like Cadbury egg like a boil bake in its Celtic. Bestest. Sting. Title to judgment. What are you think bones? I think if they're making it, they don't just make things. I sure I. Yeah, I guess I do eat like egg on toast. It's like eh gone. That'd be salty sweet. Okay. Maybe it's not that he has. Food world. With Morgan number two. Now. My favorite story of the day is Leo DiCaprio is now an Instagram boyfriend. You know what that means? No. He's the boyfriend who takes the pictures for the girlfriend. Oh canada. Yeah, no, I know what that means. Yes, even decaf Rio has to play Instagram boyfriend. He was spotted with his girlfriend model, Camila Marone his twenty one. But that separate second. He's forty four she's twenty one shocker who cares. You know what? Good for him. That's why I say this love who cares about age. Right. Right. I'm just setting myself up just in case that's me, one day this is case you go back to the archives. And I'm not bashing. Me. Please don't be I know. But still, you never know. And he was caught like doing the picture like trying to get the perfect Instagram. Shot venture. For him. Hey, love has no boundaries. It's right. Or age differences. Yes, it does. It does. Eddie's archive, not. Okay. Amy. Let's go around and see what's happening today. What's happened in your life today? I mean. I think that I'm going to try to go. I don't really know I don't know. I'm looking at my calendar, and I'm like, oh, I guess, free Tate Joyce, you leave to go along with my friends. I mean, I'm going to work on some podcast stuff here for a while. But then after that, like, I don't have a workout plan. So it's like I'll let should I do. Now, I don't know. I, I do wanna go boxing again, though. When wanna go Morgan, but you want to go to a no mortgage has been hitting me up today like. Possibly possibly I now I'm back been living back and forth from here in California, like I'm here, you're back. Yeah. For at least a few months, I'm more so editor. Title picks me up again for next season. But even then that's only a few months away, although, I do have another show. I have to leave for a little bit. Sure. But I mean not even be on the radio. But that's a whole talk. I do know. My lips are sealed though, thank you. Well hill. Well, one of my dearest, friends, you know how we do that thing. You only make a certain amount of at all friends in the last five years. The my I have to Morgan number two. And Brandon Ray birthday ID gone. I am going. Yeah. So we're going to go, and I think we're going to go to the we're going to the nudie bar is called like and fries. We're not I'd never even been to strip club. Is it y'all a wing flu? No. I haven't either. Is that what it's called something like that? That's why I thought of it. I was like that French fries and dancing. I was acting weird with my wife to there's like, where's the party, I'm like, I don't know. Is for almost. Do you ever? I'm going to work out. I make maybe box. The I'll check it out. Let me know what's going to get a long nap in and then I'm gonna go for a run. And I mean really that's all I'm play. That's it. Very busy day, by the way, if you want us to the raging idiots onto a raging idiots dot com. If you're in Denver Chicago, San Antonio Austin, Saint Louis raging idiots dot com. 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2406 - Richard Blade

Never Not Funny

2:20:33 hr | 1 year ago

2406 - Richard Blade

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Now, we're back on track. So twenty twenty four six twenty four zero six twenty four six twenty four dash six, you know, me man, I'm doing cast twenty four six three sixty three. I know. Yeah. Right. Not the full year. Days off one day. No, you do the whole day for six one day a week. And then two days in addition for your take up the Lord Lord's day, of course. Yeah. Day Wednesday you. Yeah. Of course, it's hump day. You're not gonna go home and home something that was a day that if people would growing up people didn't go to they did go to church on Wednesdays. That was some people go on Wednesdays and Sunday. Yeah. Catholicism and that is by my math too. To too many people just go on Sundays didn't Jesus say that the churches wherever you are something like that. I don't know. Did he sing it and superstar? That's the only thing. We're the only thing. I know that Jesus said was done in song with a great Andrew Lloyd Webber keep in mind as the Jew in the room, you know, more about Jesus than any. Jeez. Yes. Do you really believe this dog of God in true, speaking of Android Weber? Guess what I did over the weekend. You guys you something. You saw cats did. Did. Uh-huh. Oh, took my son. Oh boy. Took my son to talk about wouldn't Gary and gets back. We have Hannah's here hair in stifles, your stop it once before to drop off the color my world, Chicago juicer. She works over there at the pod swag. She works. Don't get confused. This isn't the other hand. And who said in here who also works at your wolf by my math to two minutes. Anyway, Hannah's here but hand we'll talk about this stuff with you. So what ended up so I want to talk about this with guarantee his thoughts. More thoughts on cats. Ito Oliver did that thing that I remember being at his age where you're interested? But you kind of pretend you're not interested because like you think you're going to be made fun of about it. Oh boy. But can I relate to that? I think that was I was too young to even understand it. But that cats was the first Broadway musical ever saw. And I was seven or something. And it made me feel weird. Like, I didn't like I was like uncomfortable about how we we were talking about homophobia in the culture when we were kids before we started. And that might have been part of it too is like I loved the songs are some of them are very catchy in are very good. Yeah. But I didn't know what to do with those feelings, and I also didn't know what to do with the feelings of people in lake robotic suits running around and jumping off my chair. Yeah. You know, some of them were ladies and some of them weren't. And I didn't know what to make of it. Now. I know what to make of it. I touched them. What's in? They come in. Well, they come in my space. They're gonna touch you. Just give me a little. A little bit. Right mittens. That's right. Mr. Mr. nobody understands you do they match right now, tap dance. We had very good seats. I got him on seatgeek. Courtesy of the seatgeek. And in fact, Oliver's like only they were way off to the side. But they were on the isle so he had full spot. That's my new jam off to the side. But not to like like ten rose. Fifteen back is the best because it's not like the angle doesn't bother me. But it's cheaper it's cheaper. And if you're on the aisle, you have nobody in front of you. That's great. I, of course, had the tallest Asia men in the world and in front of me. I don't believe he's Asian other than the fact that he was he was yelling there might have been coming. That's the basketball player. Yes. Thank you is. That mean fever. What was that guy? You know, guy not the different that was what was that guy's name. He put it. He flame out fast. He full Justin something because it was Mao lean credible Lin, sanity Lynch sanity. He that guy flamed out the second they printed the Sports Illustrated cover we're dealt with him. It was it was I think a simple case of he came in and nobody had ever played against him. And so they didn't know how to guard him and he was. Outing up numbers for a week. And they're like, oh, my God this guy he was putting up Lynch say, no sorry. Don't apologize. Apologize to the Lynn family was his first name. I wanna think of it. Don't tell me Hannah. If you if you're looking at up don't tell me yet. But anyway, yeah. Then once people had seen him once they'd be like, oh, here's how you got. And then you've done immediately a good baseball player like where they do once. They figure out. Oh, if we pitch move away inside he'll never hit home run. Yeah. But if we don't he'll nothing but home runs, right? So we go see cat. I think it so Oliver had that I could tell he wanted to go you should get everything he wants. But you know, I'm not I'm not gonna lie. I haven't seen this thing since nineteen eighty six. Look, I don't I know you Earls worried about spoiling Oliver. I think taking if a child wants to see a musical that is. I think that's an enriching experience. I I don't think I would never say no to that. Because there's always that's you're exposing them to I art look, I rock show where who knows what's gonna be happening there. Like, maybe there's drugs or maybe there's like, well, there's definitely drug says he's Nikki's next to me. And you know, I always do a little h before I see any show between the toes. Nobody sees it. But at the same time if you go to everyone. Then going to the theater is not special. We're in L A. So it's not like there's fewer things, and you know, that there certain things that neither of you're going to be interested in. So you're not literally going to go to everything there's probably five four things a year that maybe you're not that behind true. But when you had that too. Let's go see every movie, let's do this. Let's go do this. There's a lot going on you need to do things with kids who are not bored out of your mind. No kidding. He was sick over the weekend. Again, fuck and dizziness was back. But he is. And you're like we literally feel we're held hostage. But you only time he left all weekend was to go see cats and otherwise it's like my play another game. No ran my heads were wall. This, you know, a certain points Danielle left, and I would run in somewhere so forth. Sorry, not seeing cats is eighty six part, pardon me was like, you know, maybe it would just be dickhead twenty year old who just didn't dig it. And I don't know how people don't leave middle. I don't know. How people don't go. God get it. Good. Yeah. So it's going to be another hour and a half of this right now, I'm out we'll say this at one point during act one he Oliver turned to me and he smiled, and I and I'm glad that I didn't say anything because I thought he was laughing at it, and it turned so at intermission. I said, hey, what were you? What were you smiling about? He goes I'm able to great time. Oh, that's great. And so it was like, oh good. I got I didn't go ridiculous right from the. But when we get home Danielle was like, how was it? And he said well, dad still thinks that's dumb, but I really enjoyed it. And now that said there there are four great numbers. And when that woman sing memory act to where she hits that note. I'm not gonna lie teared up. It was phenomenal. And he gave me chills. It was like this. I wish this whole show is as good as these four songs. And and I I hope he's not a listener. I didn't really like the guy that did Duggar. I didn't think he was the best. And I. I'm learning more and more via Twitter that people that maybe people a lot more people. Listen to the show that we think. Like, we got a tweet from guy that did the animation in that behind the behind the curve documentary. Oh, and so here, I have talked about it. And he goes, hey, hope that I hope you watch the rest of it and enjoy my animation did end very much joy the animation. And so you don't know if people was in the show, they know what we do. I would I that would be horrible. If you're a fan, and you're listening. I love I never not funny. Here we go. Listen to the episode. Oh, they just shit on something did it again. But what if what if we took place, right? He loves me. And he listens to us every day. Yeah. Yeah. You know what I do? I listen these comedians. They get in the groove takes my mind off my mind, you a lot of people. Listen other musicals, I'd only I'd like to be the end of a cat in that. But that guy in that instance, he's heard you shit on cats for years. If that's the case the he might catch. But say that's the one song. I did did I. Didn't vote for me. Look, everyone has must've Elise as great different taste, the the gurgle cat. That can't be what it is the Gabby the Djelic gobble. Gobble cat the Gumbo. Gumbo. Gum some Gumby cat. That's mittens. Be. Smitten with the cat that I use petted nicely batch. Right mittens. That's right. They're natural head nursery ears. That's the pack. The is an outfit tales creepy. Bones. Bones that far down. What are you doing Hanaway thinking about the cue that that cat is if you sitting on your lap and getting fit for ten minutes show? Oh. These decision if a cat gets on my lap. They're gonna they're going get pet. That's just the rule now they were up in the aisles, right where they all over you. What what history Oliver? And you got a kick. I think it was maybe hitting at you because you're allergic, and it could send that think. I think I took it to sir tech before. I went so good. I was gonna ask imagine that we tougher you to sit through that ship. Well, it's reference anytime well through it in general. Allergies to the mix. Hey that could be a new variation on your Steve winwood joke. Like, you know, I'm allergic to cats can't standard show. Oh, that's nice. Here we go. We got. We got it. Boom. I am. I run today. Rewrote a joke. I've not done in ages. And I was like, hey, I can still make that joke work if I change these three words and literally was like excited something. Hey, this isn't what's your name? Yes. I wrote three two words. Okay. Yeah. So all right Hannah is here Hannah stifle this year. She's here from pot swig. And now listen to was it. The less players clever was less ear wolf. That's good question that we had controversy over the lacy Queen shirt. I believe it was the last year will episode. Yeah. That's your wolf, right? Yeah. Okay. So the last year we'll ever showed came out where Garin discover that ace somebody was stolen the lazy Queen t shirt and then follow up somebody else stole the lazy Queen design, the abbot skeletons that she'll decide and we were joking that we're going to get our lawyers on the case. And then somebody Abbott, I believe on Twitter with X did say something like, hey, I thought these guys were Kidman. Holy smokes. This guy ripped me off Hannah where we legally with this kind of reestablish. Not did kind of get out in front of that before we started getting the tweets. So appreciate you did and Marissa about days before. So we actually did have time to like lupin, the lawyers, which I think lawyers like that kind of thing. I think you know, when you work at a podcast company. You don't really get like tangle with copyright stuff. So yeah, they're on it. They're sort of looking into how legit these companies are and cease and desist all of that. Yeah. It's multiple sites. But it seems like these the sites I assume are just kind of aggregating one sure person's worker, I don't know what they do because it's like very strange that it would be the exact same thing. But with this the the domain is different. I mean, like, they're stealing, obviously, they're stealing abbots design. But the everything else about the lab looks exactly the same to like it's on the same color shirt and rice written the same way. Now, would we buy? Potch? Wag wouldn't pod swag sues for let's say ten million dollars. Pouch web is obviously they're gonna taste 'cause we got gonna pay those lawyers abbot's gotta get I'd say a thousand bucks the bulk of the money needs to go here in house. Right. I mean, I did little to nothing except call Garin lazy Queen. So that seems like maybe that is my material is I don't really what's interesting is. I don't really know how it all works. Like, I I'm telling how it works. I'm saying legally, we get the bulk joking aside. I literally they I don't know the deal Abbott made with pods wag the whether it's a license or outright by or I don't know licenses. We're using Mr. Pardo's words that I- trademarked IP if you will I will. Automatic copyright. That's what you see baby. I mean, this could get ugly. We could get into a lawsuit with pod swag. If they're not going to agree to what you're talking about. We're not going to. I'm telling you right now, we are in a lawsuit. Well, she's not lawyer. She goes back to you. Go back and tell those you're the messenger. Counter-suing pod swing with right there on your team. I don't they're the ones. We're doing all the work, but we're going to countersue them, go faster. Walk out of this deal without a million dollars. Let's be a United front on this. I think no no what I'm doing. What I'm doing? All right. I've been a lawyer would also say that anything were saying right now could be used in court. So maybe this isn't the best thing to be. The fact that we're proving once again that we own the rights to this. No, I if if it ends up in a lawsuit that could be like, well, listen to this guy. He's on the show. He's talking about he's going to sue the company that's representing him. Obviously Iran ary comedian making a joke. You heard earlier he thought about it doesn't like cats. I don't know. He's said he wasn't joking. It doesn't play hundred Broadway for that many years. Let people liking it your honor. He's obviously kidding full of jokes. All right. So they could just let this clip run. And the answer to those questions. We'll be contained within the clip itself. We don't even have to appear a good attorney would only take it out of context to get the thing that they want right. And then the other force the other turning to get the rest of it. So this is a way to get more listeners is what you're saying interesting. I welcome the law shift. I want those twelve jurists to here are have to listen to it. We're always looking for the angle if history is a guide at least one of them will go. Oh, maybe I'll check that out later and then never doing the other eleven just go. Yeah. Guilty. They're not on trial. I don't get it. And this guy's up like unlikeable that understand what that other guy with the weird hair is all about. Hey, that's no longer really be anybody in this room. I assumed it was me. But probably. Yeah. You don't have weird hair anymore. You've got you've got a normal haircut. Now, though, I imagine you were feeling some regret when you saw the gorgeous photo that lease L posted on Instagram is the best that that as a grown man with that link hair. Did you see this low? Yeah. Yeah. Ryan was like. But it was funny. He was like he was like, holy moly. You made humiliates sexy. How'd you do that? You see that confident. No, I didn't catch that. Did she do it was it was like a year? Imagine a sexual what? Well, I I'm. He's I think he's like I to me. He looks like a sort of skis the porn guy from the seventies. If that's not a sexual no sexuality to eat will look at him and go I see somebody fucking him. I don't think about it. But feel feel that way. See you doing it all the time. Yeah. I see Matt. It's better. My the thing feeling has about me is better or lack of it. We're talking about how you doing. I don't know part way through that sentence. I couldn't find my mouth anyway, go to sells I guess visit on Facebook and Instagram. On the Facebook page two now, and it's it's at to that. Maybe it's my is one of my Facebook profile pictures. I wouldn't it be issue on your thing. Great. Yeah. Let's just is incredible. Very good guidance. I hadn't seen those the one of me I hadn't seen before. And that was great too. That was she makes me look handsome as well. And she's changed her style over the years. So we have the older ones that are at the act me some screen something gets red. And they have one look one lighting style. This is a completely different one. And it's great, and you shouldn't use that photo on every dating app. Remember when you were you asked me to take a picture of you the other day for thing that we don't need to talk about if you don't want to. But I was like as soon as I saw I was like, oh, he's used this one. This is incredible. Well, it's you you're doing a good job as well. Hm? I don't want to talk about too much because I don't know in this venue if I'm allowed to but I'm running for neighbor council. Well that again, remember I did it. All right. Don't use that photo then to sex. Sexy. The one that I'm gonna use the one that Matt did because I want it to look the way look now. That's good point. Yeah. What does it made running for neighbor cannot? So and more importantly will it help with our lawsuit? Yeah. We get. To have this. Trial habit him homes. I don't think that can I don't think there's a court in Paul had these out of there. Just a neighborhood. Really? Right. It's not Paul, comma, California. Now, it's not a city. I could put poems California, and it should technically work. Well, zip codes there, and they haven't found you, obviously we'll take care of that too. But yeah, so I'm just it's it's the thing. I did like four years ago. Why are you doing this? Again. I thought you decided you you you've washed your hands of yours. Here's the the the president of the council at that time was all Tracy person with that Donald Trump, exactly Kramer's. And in fact, she took out restraining orders, they believe against other people of the board for for showing up to news reason. I don't know. I don't want this person in the meeting restraining orders. Right. That's the best way. Her son was would take video of the of the board meetings. And then take images out of context and put swastikas next to people live, what website all this crazy stuff. And the reason why I stuck is normally. If things are going weird. You us stand up in stay. But the way that she was doing things I was worried that I might get sued because she was doing where things because that's the way that the the the Brown rules. Remember what it's called? There's a certain set of rules where if you are in a public office, you have to follow certain things, and you don't then you can be sued civilly. So you basically were like I'm getting away from this before it hits me like, correct? Yeah. And I think to a certain extent what didn't get as bad as I thought it would. But it definitely went in the direction worried after her the next person is president cleaned all that up clean clean houses. And that's the reason. Why now I feel like oh, yeah. What does that mean? What what will you do? What would your title be? If you win I'm going up against and how can we help? Well, you can't unless what you can't help unless what unless you're willing to have all the other candidates come on the show. Oh, that's why you can't talk about it. That's why I don't wanna go into too much depth theon. I mean, I can I can I feel like I can say that I'm running for business rep people for two positions. I almost was going to pull out because well, there's two positions there to other people. I don't need to do this. But then I thought well, so that it doesn't matter if they don't vote maybe one of them should pull out up to them. But I'm thinking about him having sex again. The you say like that. So you know, it's just it's just trying to make the neighborhood better. And, you know, help with things like you have meetings about the building development as an example. So there was a there when I did it before, you know, with the coffee bean there in Venice used to be a rallies. Correct. So there's a whole thing about how they were going to do it. And we were able to give input even though we don't really have that much power. But we could if we thought it was a bad idea than the city council would have to pay attention to that you know, that works very well in in Baldwin hills. Where I live. You cannot open up a new fast food place in Baldwin hills. Because automobile. Because because automobile. Will automatically say no because there is a you know that community. There's a lot of diabetes. They wanted to. Yeah. There's there's a so many already though. No, there's actually there's not we also there's not a lot of we what we do need restaurant is restaurants. I'm to say, there's not that. But there are there are two McDonald's. Yeah. There's a Taco Bell del taco and then subway in that Kentucky virtue but subways not considering food, and then there's a Carl's junior. But like all of them have been their grandfather done for probably forty five years. Now for those who are listening to this who have no idea what this is basically in every city you've got like a city council in Los Angeles. I want to say in the eighties or the nineties. There was some big problem. And the solution was to create these neighborhood councils, which they're not as they don't have as much authority. And in fact, you can vote if you're fourteen. Yeah, it's it because it's it's it's for participation and communication, and and like if I wanted to I could run for the neighborhood council in Sherman oaks because I work here. So you don't have to thinking about running for two different areas. Don't think it's a good idea. No. Are you allowed to be in two different? I can't imagine that you are. Maybe maybe. But are they are the votes that the elections at the same time? No, they Searle staggered. If you lose palms. I'd like I'd like to see you run here in Sherman oaks. What I like about this idea is that like if he's on this council, he'll be going to these meetings. Probably talking a lot and then. It's like a little bit less of. We don't take the brunt. As my g I can't imagine. You'll be liked actually. Okay. Dude. I'm kidding. It's one of it's one of the things in the world that I'm probably perfect for except. There's no question. I think it should be the president of the United States ask here here or your hat in the ring. Go independent. He's run. Yeah. Get rid of credit cards. We're done. We're done. Off the grid. Don't have any bags. Thank you, sir. What do you need sixty five thousand signatures thousand dollars in which the moment you need signatures in every place that you'd never state you want to run. So but to get into the debate stage there, you need sixty five thousand of something. Yeah. What is good that? The Pete would put a judge Huda judge. He's a fun trip for how to remember to pronounce it and it comes from him directly. Okay. Booed edge. You say edge twice Buddha jet Ruta. Yeah. I saw him right at that edge. Ed, what do you say say Buddha judge because that's basically how it's pronounced. Hey, that's close enough. Number. When you said Buddha edge. I thought you said Buddha judge too. Jerk to saying, it's so close handsome. He's hinged, very charming. Who is this person? He's running for president. But can you imagine the mayor's bent? Oh, okay. President what I just I know this is a shitty way to look at it. But can you imagine a president? I guess you could say the same thing of Obama, but like Buddha judge that's especially when it looks like, you know, but judge. Say that the first homosexual candidate he was gay. Oh, yeah. Oh, yes. Very open about it. And he's married. His husband is name sounds like one of those like lacrosse, rapists. It's like Branson or one of those chest in. I think it might be Justin Chechen. I mean, again, somebody is the internet. You are fish good as Garin. I think it might be something. I. Move this computer. My hands. He is. I think he's wonderful. But here's the here's the truth. I think the people that you're trying to get the Republicans that you don't that are anti-trump are also probably gonna be anti-gay. And I'm at is the generalization generalization on on that the question is are you trying to get those people or are you trying to get Indiana people in the middle. Those are that's what I'm saying. I'm saying that people that are that Liana leaned that lean Levin that you want to get away from that guy who don't wanna vote for him anymore. But you don't want. Here comes this gay guy. Well, that goes against everything I I can't vote for him. I want to stick with this at well. Here's the thing. It sounds like that said he's a white guy. So at least he's I know he's got four again. I I say that going for him. A sense of yet. Again, that's a wide brush from what from what I've heard a lot of the people who voted for Trump voted for Obama. These are people who are have self interest. Obama said hope and change they were like all right. I'd like some hope and change. They didn't get what they wanted from him. Trump said I'm going to be different art will vote for you. They're not necessarily like those are the swing voters. Yeah. And I think if if there was a gay candidate who now you can't just say stuff, I hope you have to actually have something behind it. If they if they did that person said the right thing, I think those voters would say all right? That sounds well. The problem is a lot of the democratic candidates are saying the things that those people wanna hear because they realize there's some very basic issues that a lot of people are like, hey, you know, Trump didn't solve any of the stuff that we thought we wanted him to either. And so now it's like it's everyones following Bernie's lead. Basically, we still sort of like, it's good. That's the one of the reasons why he ran besides to be president. And I guess the democratic convention is going to be in Wisconsin, which I that's that's a that's like a a tip of the hat to. Hey week. Completely ignored you before. Right. So that's the other thing. I was going to say is like you could say like, oh, you know, they voted this way. But the win the election was as close as it was. And you know, there's so many factors involved with why people voted the way they did you could have another like, you know, it sounds like Joe Biden is probably going to run that's sort of the rumbling. And he's kind of just like sort of like the closest thing to like a a a male version of of Hillary like it's it's an establishment democrat. And I think Biden running is a mistake because he's gonna get me to I'm sorry. There's going to be your. But yes, some strange stuff, and he likes rubbing shoulders. Yeah. It's it's. Show. This is nice but nice for comforting. I, but I just think like you could say like, oh, well that's the wrong idea because he's basically Hillary and Hillary didn't win. It was like, but she almost did. And that's so maybe it is. I mean who knows? She did she have also cheated. Let's remember that part of that. Yeah. I think he shouldn't run on because there's a kazillion people running younger and hip and happening. But I think Joe Biden, sadly, again might be the exact guy you need for the next term will that's what to bring those people over and then hopefully get this back to what you and I, but you and I could say, yeah, he's the right idea. But the polling suggests that what people want a guy that does comedy in places like, Peoria, Appleton, and and towns like this grand rapid. I don't see them voting for a gay guy. I just I don't horse and again, I not everybody certainly something but not enough but not enough. Yeah. We're not there yet. Or maybe I don't know. But you could have said that about Obama you could say we're not there yet. And then he won. But it's just it seems like this is not the time for that risk. I see. When a military, Pennsylvania and Ken Schultz doing jokes about being gay and being stared at and booed, right? You know that the they're not voting for now. I know so well, I think it's all edit Godal, the whoever ends ups seeming like the most popular person. That's the way to go its two walking us, isn't isn't necessarily. And it's kind of early to to get into the weeds of the numbers because you can you know, Bernie and Biden poll high because people know them, but they don't necessarily they don't know Jill brand, they don't know comma, Harris, if they're not in California. So like that's just a factor of like awareness once once those people get out there, and it's closer the front of the net. So. Yeah. That's true. Yellow pages. Bernie, I had to explain the we all the pages to my son. The other. Pages. And I thought I explained it. Well, but it it seemed like you want to know a lot more detail on it. So people. Well, that's the white pages. He goes so somebody could just open up like a catalogue and find your phone number and call you. Yeah. So great is crazy when you get it Joe anymore. I still like we'll have this huge book at my door when I get home. You get the the yellow or the white or both the white. I think and it's significantly thinner than at once was. But it's still like who are these people don't know any better. Are you in there though? Or are we in there? I don't think so I've done the internet version of that which is horrifying they'll sort of list like your previous boyfriends and previous addresses on previous address of your parent. Incorrect mixtures of two different addresses as an example that sure I think if you're name's Bob Smith. You're listening for me. To look up these ex-boyfriends of yours. These guys are given boyfriend. Currently, I do not know we learned that the last time you were here that I want to say, but maybe something changed them what a couple of weeks. No. And what my heart is calcified. I just favorites leaned eons on. Yeah. So it's fine. It's a choice. God everything just came to a really war of all. You made it said with a smile weirdest thing. Now brought it up Jimmy inch. I think she kind of made that same point last time. I don't remember what happens on this show. I remember when it's sad like that. And I've come across Elliot on many of swipe, right? Just it's I actively doing which is. Right in which is what he's left left. His right right is wrong. All the swipe ones. Also have like a, you know, a an accent. Oh, something like I'm not great at the swiping either. I'm a little dyslexic rights, and lefts or. No. You don't wanna mess that up. Right. There's your lift with. I know. That's I do that. When I drive it's very embarrassed do tend to keep us fucking wheel. Then you can you can do an L with rose grab true. Yeah. I would drive with that all the time. But if I were you onto interesting directions. Our hang one of those make one of those. It's just it works better. Well, now, I need to know the Elliott is which is which is yes in which is no indirectly. Yes. Is right. Okay. Swiped right. Right. And left of I have no interest. It's a it's it's a hanging. I don't want to. Electoral thing that left that left is bad. Yeah. As a left handed person, I'm very offended by this unless in the eighties. You had an earring left. His right right is wrong. That was the the phrase is back in those days. I also have to say I'm disappointed because I actually thought I disabled all of those apps. So I haven't done it recently myself either. So better than you, though, she was on it and could not white left fast enough based on what she just said. Those are press the button because he's not good with the lesson. All of them is the thing. One year all sort of like, this is the hook up one. And this is this. And like, none of that is true. Like, everyone does all of them. Just in case. Hm F LA okay for your information. Did you get this first name of the Chaston Chaston past Chason chasta's? I've heard it. She say she said Chastain. But isn't that the word Chason? No, there's a T in their Jason has t doesn't it? I've heard him say Chaston C H A S T E N. Of course, you pronounce it that way because otherwise people are saying chasing to you all the time. Yeah. I mean chasing. Actually sounds more like a name than chasta allege. But it has meaning which is to a lot of names have meanings. Right. Jimmy means to price something opened with a screwdriver. Chat too much like every name has a background. Right. Elliott everywhere. News isn't elections. A reason everything. Did you find out is it Justin Lin the Linson land? Jeremy Lin we were right about the J part. Damn right. We were you were right wasn't then. I was actually I think that director. No big deal. Oh, yes. Direction. One of the festival here is true. Yes. No big deal. You said. As we move from it. No big deal. Okay. Fast and furious. Let's get into it. Oh, okay. Nothing. I've never, hey. If you're if you're here today who said pod swag today. Marissa and I had to I. Okay. Truth be told I sit I replied to your Email and said, yes, yes. A thousand times. Yes. I am mmediately was like, please. Let me please, please. And she gets it gets it, especially with since there's an affinity here to people don't get out of this made T shirt until the next day who cares? But so important. I'm sure Neville pin. Must have that Marissa's slide that into an envelope. That was just the two of you guys have interns over there, helping you out I wish now it's just the two of us. And we by the way had this big warehouse downtown like we don't keep anything in the office. So like often I will be like I'll be back in an hour. I have to go to the warehouse, which is a thing that I say at this job now. So yeah, that's why do you have to go to the warehouse? We take turns it kind of depends on what else is going on. And it's like fun to get with the office. Even if that's your goal otherwise. You're stuck listening to call an decipher what he's saying. He's not really we don't interact at lime you get. Exactly. Right. I just nod and smile assume you saying something nice to me because I I'm told he likes my show Collins, the talent liaison against that is technically an executive producer of the show of this show. Yeah. His name is at the end of all the I can't make it that far ahead of creative. I would say, you know, it exists. He know that. Yeah. Knows that he's like one of the adults. There's sort of a very distinct kids table and stable. Yeah. So he's at the adult table holding court. Nobody just going. I think anyone with a British accent automatically gets too distant at the adult table because it sounds more, you know, like, John proper, it does this guy knows what he's talking about it in his case. I'd I don't know what he's saying. No, I never understand where that guy says you'd be hatching some terrorist plot for not smile. I walk out with a dynamite belts director Sidney lumet. Like from the seventies dog afternoon all of that. And he would always have British second eighties for whoever is the one that really calls action. And really is like the asshole onset, the director doesn't have to be would always pick British guys because it felt more civil, and if someone is yelling at everyone it just kind of like improve closing five of the set for feeling I know smart com- peculiar to book. I read that book that's book. I went to Emerson film school. Did not know that all of us way. If you thousand four when that's I'm like, ten years ahead of us that don't act like that's a long time ago nothing to do with that monstrosity on Sunset Boulevard. Let me right know, we never got to enjoy that. They built a whole camp Billy Wright next across from roscoe's tower goats. Yeah. Oh, it's over there. Yeah. What's the other one? Isn't there? Another one on sunset. Or maybe there's like a recording studio school anyone who I don't even know about the one that's like in the lobby of old ear wolf, actually weirdly. Yeah. No, no, it is literally called like the recording college school for recording artfully. So it's also Persson now. Oh, assistant coaches got some DJ's or something. Helpful. So you can watch a ten minute YouTube video or go to that's right, right. Right. The Columbia college in Chicago was basically it started is that like a broadcast school. Broaden to theater, and I think actually Emerson started as a public speaking school. Like, it was just a guy teaching people really to take speech everyone before, you know, it was just like one of these weird prerequisite voice in articulation. Would you give your speech on? I did a Conan O'Brien something something where just like quoted stand up something. Oh, but we did have to. There was a debate about like gay marriage, and I had to speak for the side that I do not believe, but I won. What what's what's I would that be? So that we're clear on the Buddha. Judge is doing the right thing. I like that. He's rolling that way. So yeah, I had to you're saying rolling. But I. I can't she definitely is saying Buddha judge. It's like it's like a Buddhist. Who is also at advocating she's not seeing judge, right? Is for sure what what is it? Booed Egede edge edge who'd you, doodo judge. But she's saying Buddha. Judge Buddhadev you have to know you are. Okay. I'll work, and you were the one who is to me. Maybe somebody at the door. Maybe somebody the door, right? I see some sort of movement. They must have snuck in because I was open. God throughout over that door. Oh boy. How does the over that door? There you go. It's your blade is just walked in with what can only be described as pearly white smile and ways I'm gonna say, Richard. I seventy seven pounds. Seventy nine you bumped up. Doughnut this morning, Richard blade is just walked know Hannah. Explain to Richard of what you're supposed to say. Have you gotten up in time as opposed to you running your mouth say, hi, I'm Hannah? And Jimmy part is assistant. You should know that you'll be joining a live record as you enter just sit there nicely. And then they will address you what's they're ready to write this. We've we've already done all that am I sitting nicely. I think you are where. Yeah, you dude. Or speaking of the rich and wonderful accent, richer blade is just walked in Richard. Of course is a broadcast the legend. Right. There's only told the way to say it. I recently read his book world in your eyes. Demayo world and your eyes in my is based on the Depeche mode lyric or song title. Absolutely. I asked for permission. And of course, he did Richard. Why would he say why? But it wasn't so microphone with her. You know, you did. No. You didn't have to ask for permission for that? Right. Yeah. And it's not a copyright phrase. I'm friends with the guy, and I didn't want to just do it without asking if you so it's like going out to go and kissing her without asking permission first, you always should. Anymore visa over in the old days? You can just kiss whoever you want it to who is the Oscars with Halle Berry was a Mark Walmer. No, the pianist guy. Oh, Adrian Brodie. Yes. And he's sort of got out right right of excitement, and then sort of like dips her like, she's like, oh World War Two nurse. Thing which is like. Time. I think it was charming, but not anymore. No. I still thought it very charming. I'm going to watch that video when I get home tally berry. Yeah. Right. Very attractive. Not Richard blades. You've got a sorted past as well. He's got guys get craziness in his past that. All right. Let's take a break. Richard blade is just walked in very exciting. Wait, we're we're in the middle of something before. What were we we were talking about with? I'm sorry is Richard hang tight for a second place. You were talking about the speech, you you had to take the side of of anti gay marriage. So yes in it debate class in college. We went to the same school and to bait and speech was a big part of the curriculum. And I had to argue against gay marriage. Which is not what I believe and I won the debate. And I felt weird about it. You should takes. Did you apologize to everyone? I just felt funny. And I think we all assumed that I don't know probably like ended that particular class like in a weird Dan did you win that because I mean light, and I made the the argument of like, I'm just representing my constituency, and this is what they want. But like again, I do not isolate that clip, please meth not really feels agree. I'm leaving. Dale on this. We had no idea we had this kind of homophobia happening in our studio by Richard blade is here Hannah. Of course is sitting in for Garin. We're thrilled to have her here. Taking time away from pod sweat goes. We mentioned somebody's not getting their Dave Holmes ball cap. But more importantly, Richard played is really back right after this. Matt you've heard me talk about this. Because you've been sitting next to me. And then you will also have some things to say about it. But we've thought about hymns before and how they are helping guys look their best. This is four hymns dot com. 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Open fit a better way to fit heavily welcome back to the program. So twenty four six that's what I'm calling it. Four six. It's actually twenty four zero six if you're a CD weirdos sitting at home, Richard blade is here with us the legendary broadcaster now, of course, people in LA, no, Richard. But but then you've got notoriety nationwide. And of course, worldwide now because Sirius XM with the first wave. Yeah. Are you also on the pulse, or are you just on first-wave? Now. It's just I way like did the pulse for a while. What was the pulse? The pulse is kind of Dave Matthews. Oh. Rely on that they wanted me on it to do like a nighttime show. And when I was on it. They didn't want me to be excited about the music. Like, I am with. You know, I had mellow is like, well, I hear take Matthews is going to be going on tour and hopefully playing some of his album tracks like this one. We have queued up you right now. It's and smudging. I guess my question is why you because what I love about. You is your joy and your passion. So if you take that away from Richard blade, why would they go, and you'll be good just is it just a British voice as it just the I think so they just wanted the accent on that. And I do ID's and stuff for some of the dance channels like electric area, which is now diplo's res- revolution. And but then they mess with my voice, which is cool. So I'll read something like diplo TISCO and screw lakes on the road together. Then when they put it on the Russian GS dollars Gorancs on the world to cap out, and they mess with that. Which is great. I mean, they just want an English voice for like European ons when they coming over. All right. It's fair enough. But my main thing is I wave yesterday. Then I'm not doing it. I'm glad you said it I because enough with Depeche mode and you shit. I I lived here in the eighty s I went to the island in Pasadena, which I believe we're k rock was based at the facade. Yeah. And you that's when you were on I eighty six eighty seven I think you were there. Right. I was from eighty to on what's on loss row bliss right across from the Hilton in Pasadena. Okay. Yeah. And I just remember a lot of Depeche mode. Oh zone. I Finally I ended up becoming friends with Kevin and bean, and I would go on there. So how long have you guys played Depeche mode? That would just Richard played. But you you mentioned your friends with those guys, but that's your favorite band as well. Right. I'm slightly Depeche mode, the police and the people's love ole three, and, but if there was one band, I could see live any band living old dead. I could see live hang on anybody could see live or are. They still touring. You know, try said living all Dan, did you ever get a chance to see them? No never checked to see them by the love of guessing games on here. Let's figure it out boggy a clue to when I'm driving home from a gig at night and on heading through downtown Los Angeles with the lights of the building. I will queue up a specific source. Absolutely gutted. I would love to seen the doors in concert. But the story is right. I know, but there's something about Jim Mora, and his charisma that I would love to have seen because I mean, they wouldn't Iran for that long a time either, you know, it's amazing. How many groups just had a short period, but what an impact, and maybe it's because now the colored in my mind because of Apocalypse Now, and the that music and movies, but I would love to have been there. Fly on the wall at one of the concerts. I watch I just bought on Blu Ray the doors the Hollywood bowl. Uh-huh. And because I'm I'm mesmerized by Jim Morrison yet, even when he's horrible. There's still something about him spinning roundly Stevie nicks or look at that guy. Look leather pants like I there's something magical about him. And then he sings that he's atrocious. But. I too. I what is your favorite door song? It would be a many. I can I to put I could tell you now than you could ask me three minutes. Right different answer this obviously, right? As on the stolman light, my file which to come to me right away. But then I do love the end and break on through. I love the way on through is so manic in such a short period of time at two minutes and fifty cents. But it's just great. I love it. And it takes you back. I used to listen to them driving in Europe. They would keep me awake. And of of always one of those American bands. He's the dream of coming over to the states to see. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Have you ever heard the next version of break on through? No. It's really great. Yeah. They used to do that live in concerts. Oh, I'm gonna have to look that up. I did create you'll find it somewhere on the internet. But it's really really great cool riders on. The storm is mine case somebody shit what my favorite door song. And the end would be number two. You know, right is on the storm. Go a lot of different versions. They've. Done a lot of what I call beatha chill versions. I beat the island in the Mediterranean, which has all the techno music, you know, after the party's over like seven in the morning, they put on these chilled mixes. So you can lie on the beach and do oh great chill versions of riders on the stolen chill to begin with how how much more children. Rain stick for three. When that song came at in England. It was a big hit. But the tools the doors went soaring and the song was on top of the pops. And it was like the people behind top of the pops which was the show every kid in England was required to watch top of the pops. If you if you made of the pumps you'll going to have a huge hit. So the record company is all my what what do we do? You know, we've got no video for it. Because it would videos went big at the time. And so for riders on the storm they literally put someone on a horse riding through Hyde Park in London in the pouring rain for four and a half. I remember that as a kid being fascinated because I loved the song. And I was just waiting for something to happen. But nothing happened on a loss in the storm song remains the same the zeppelin movie where it's like, you got a horse now for no reason why so ever. Richard blade is areas. Ticket time away from talking about Depeche mode. A Sirius XM eighty on eight my son's a huge son's eleven years old all and when I told him you were commend the show. He got very excited Cassini whenever like, he loves my son loves eighties music, but who had never we are in the car. And you start talking is Richard turn it up. You give me a time. And I'll give him a shadow on the seriously, you we will. We'll do a little surprise shout. That's that's a look at time. We'll we'll figure it out. All right now. Oh, no. Oh my God don't want. What's what I know? He loves Rick, Ashley. But what's he what's his big thing right now? That's a great question. I don't know. What is very, you know, whenever I asked him what his favorite is. It's always like them all debt. Yeah. I know kids can't pick out the Mike. You have no ability to say what a favorite. Yeah. He we went to it was actually competing against your show. You guys are at the Microsoft, Microsoft, and we went to the Wilton. Uh-huh. With ABC and the outfield, and we went to that to that shit. Wait was that the one compete against you because it was at the Greek one probably the great one with Paul young and you mature and maybe Howard. Yeah. Retro future. That's right. That's right. Yeah. Now, do you guys? Get in a ring and fight that out. Which one is Berlin Goto, the Welwyn me. I know and yeah, there you go. No. We don't fight it out. I mean, the promoters get behind, you know, the the mics and the phones and say to the agents how come on we want to do this. We want to do that. And they give you all kinds of why they're going to do one of the other boat. Really all that doing is trying to bid up the price the autism. Right. But there's certain toys they had their own packages like retro future goes out across the country. And they do their own thing. Lost eighty s live does the same thing with the eighties weekends. That's just southern California. Yeah. So even though they requests from New York and Chicago Miami to take it that the promoters big in southern California, and they don't just do eighties. They do free style right to hip hop and hardcore rap events as well. So they know the local market, and they don't want to tiny dilute it. So that's why sometimes. They can't get once that on the the packages. I see and you're part of the one that's coming up at the Greek in September is it. Yeah. I'm actually gonna do one at the Microsoft in July and then one at the Greek in September. We'll who's on the one in in July. Are you the one in July is Andy bell of a regime? Okay. And also ABC is coming at. Yeah. And the Michigan. He is going to be on the Alon might be and the Alaa is to be that. And then they thrown in a couple of fun hip hop packs because they fan the in the eighties shows that certain autism. The people would not go and see because then more into the Durant's and the Depeche modes, but you put them in to an eighty spill, and they like I've always wanted to see them. Guilty pleasure. So vanilla ISIS on the pill and Alok. So I mean, yeah. Exactly. Yes. So it's going to be a real fun one. And then the other package the one at the Greek theater. Also going to do the next night in Vegas, and that's lost eighties. Live flock ac- goes missing persons Wang, Chen, the outfield, Reggie mentioned and fourteen other bands. Yeah, that's a lot of like did it last year in Vegas and his outdoors, and when they were setting up we were doing a Sandjak about three in the afternoon, and they will all the high rise buildings around reflecting the sun Kohana, I light the heat. But I felt like I was just walking into an inferno. You could see the the skin bliss Mike school from a flock of seagulls face. It just. As it was just it was crazy. But thank goodness. They had these giant fans. I mean twelve feet high these fans on stage with water pouring in front of them. So that's the reason we survived until the sun went down. But it was it was a fun one. And you want between every act on those shows on those shows every single act because lost eighty s live only has one stage. So they have to change things around. But they're very good. They have all the drums on online mobile rises. They push in an ad says any like a three to four minute cover. So I go as that chat to the crab. Tell them a little story. Play play one song. Maybe take an instant requests that jump off the crat into the crowd and with a microphone kind of doing, you know, like a game show host thing and ask a couple of trivia questions, then get back on so people love it. It may make a lot of fun. The worst thing is you know, you plan out. Okay on this. I'm going to do this this and this and then bring the band on. And you jump back on you go and ladies and gentlemen, and you look over the promote is going stretch, not ready. Oh my gosh. You've got to fill ten minutes. So you like, oh, let me tell you. Why a pot today? I went to one of the weekends. And you're not there. It was downtown Julie Brown and that happened to her and bless her heart. Didn't know what to do kind of kind of got a little bit. Yeah. She's she's lovely. I'm working with in November in the Dominican Republic. We're going to do a gay and I've done several cakes. But I have the advantage just because I would just about every weekend, and you know, do private parties and everything like that. So I'm used to having to fill you know, and Julius fantastic at you, you tell a for two minutes, and she will just entertain the crowd. But if you then pull a little in a stretch on how that she wasn't expecting. It's hot because it's like, Wow, I've I've done all my bit right now. Do I do, you know and at not being a stand up comedian? I it's hard for her. Should she is great because she's a great dance. I mean, she won championships in Europe. This how? She kinda came over to MTV, so she'll do a little dance, and she'll tell some jokes. But you know, anyone to have the rug pulled out from underneath you last minute it, it's a hot things I do it for a living. And you know, if you think you're doing forty five minutes, and then the waitresses aren't done, and they tell you this richly. Well, I already justed for the forty five. Now, you gotta figure it out. So I did that one. So Sam kinison I was opening Sam kennison, and in the Redondo beach, a I think it was called the strand on your beach, and it was one of his last gates. I mean, it might have been his last game because I think he was driving to Vegas right afterwards. And I was doing like a forty minute thing. So I had back then I was not as practices. I am now and I had giveaways so I had a bunch of records final and Asha parents if you don't thirty. Thirty down to stat. And I was giving at to the crowd. So I was doing trivia, and some you know, name that tune and all that kind of stuff. And so I I got through and I had like fifty minutes of material to do an eye for forty minutes. But then it into fifty minutes, and then he was like, oh, no I had to fill for another forty five minutes ninety minutes. Yeah. Ninety minutes, and they would add to see a comedian. Not you not may they want to see me. I mean, they knew I was then oh cool DJ from the radio maybe a winning album, and that was great. And that was fine for forty minutes. But I'll tell you pulling teeth. All right. I'm standing on stage. Like, what do I mean? There was Moen's absolute silence. Holding the microphone and when he finally showed up I was so happy, and he just he didn't even stop just literally walked in the door went straight on staying. I was all. Richard blade is here with reality series taking time away from his very busy scheduled for the Sirius XM we love I've let's check in with Hannah over at the Melbourne. It's supposed to be the pop culture B's info much by dog pile dot com, but you have your own laptop. That's true. I don't feel right taking on guarantee whole persona and Mook company. Certainly a fake company the popped out Kyle parts. So that Burke. Yes. But it it's my own pile. Now can't be happy with that. I'm not sorry. Anything of it happened over the weekend. I saw captain marvel and did not enjoy us. Oh, actually for music related reason. Why the music cues made me want to kill myself. It was so on the nose. Every single song was like remember the nineties, and I saw it with perhaps friend of the show Jordan Morris from Georgia, Tennessee, don't friend of mine, and I did whisper at one point totally joking. If they played just a girl I am out miam- booking it not ever expect. I mean, who's going to the first marvel superhero who's a woman they can't do. I'm just a girl and the big final fight song. And it was just like, oh, I was joking. Now, you know, he wept at that move. From that went there when they play just a girl. That's what my cried. But, but I did that was I loved the movie, but that was the thing was like God that is really necessarily kiss me deadly by leader Ford. Doing the karaoke. I haven't seen it yet. I hit the one problem though, is that she is so powerful that she can move planets and destroy spaceships just by flying through them. And it's like how is anyone gonna stand against Moore area? I'm not a marvel, but it yeah. It's like she's just been like hanging out doing other things for the past five years and only in this new one we'll shoot return where she been. There have been a lot of like there's been some problems for versus level stakes up until now like what does she do the presidential election? Right. Where? Kasimov November eighth. Come on. Yeah. Could push the button. But you enjoy it. I did I'm a sucker for for marvel movies. I like the whole mythology how everything ties together. And. Yeah. So I I love the extended universe yet. I know into deadpool. Yeah. I didn't get into dead. Pull to me that left me. Call because I'm more into a hero here. It was a little too smart for me a little too aggressive. Let's just me. Yeah. I know why people would like it. But captain marvel something. Yeah. I mean, if if you like guardians of the galaxy, and you know, all these other I feel like if you're invested in the overarching story that they've been telling for ten years, then I think you'll enjoy it. If you're not then I don't know. Maybe your mileage varies a little bit. So much money though, I felt didn't chew kind of slam it until it just made jillion dollars. And I was like, okay. And I was like, okay. This movie they need me. Everyone else went what? A say, she is brilliant. I mean when I saw an room. I'd never seen if he's right? What film that incredible? I could watch that anytime that was great and room rate. Exactly. And what I'm saying? He's great in. Yeah. Yeah. I did not care for the booming. Right. I kept him are Vel as you said, technically marvel is the bending character. Zam is going to be great. It looks fun. Yeah. Which apparently is captain mov, Al. But the other version of yeah. Yeah. Actually, the original captain marvel was named Suzanne. And then DC is like we all we also have a sham and there was some fight over the name. I guess but a kid there was the district Zam ISIS our jail yells Zam, then he became captain marvel. So me, oh, that's what it was very confused as to why this is DC had a character named captain marvel let the copyrights slit. Yeah. So I I read it in USA today on that. I I did follow. I used to every Saturday morning. I would go to this little store into okay to get the latest COMEX from America and started with DC, of course, and then had model as well. But I was a huge superman super boy soup ago fan, and you know, I grew up with American COMEX. So what was the what town to? Okay. Little Fawlty towers you've ever seen Fawlty towers. Yeah. Was set into a. Yeah. Because what happened was Monty python when Monty python first came out. It was had no budget. But the BBC approved it because John Cleese was coming off the goon show and a couple of other shows that was that was with David Frost, and he came up with the idea of an ensemble cast Monty python. And they said, well, we'll we'll put it on the F six episodes. But you can't film in London. It's too expensive. So go somewhere else, that's cheap. So they went to tule key, which is a coastal town. And they could stay in bed and breakfasts nineteen shillings a night, which was a dollar forty at the time and twenty miles away was Plymouth, which is a big city. So that doubled his London, but they had the coast fanny like pirates scenes executor like the opening with with the guy comes out and the also had the Moi's funny country scenes, they show everything into a key for the first. Season. And then BBC looked at it and said, yeah, it shows nothing to do anything. We're gonna put it on late at night on a Saturday. But we'll give you a second season. Anyway, you can keep doing it. So I did two years into. Okay. And when the show first add eleven thirty on a Saturday night buried right before the BBC turned off because you know, that would turn off at midnight college students found it and it became a huge hit. So the BBC said, well, we'll try at seven thirty at night, even though it's offensive and then everyone loved it. And of course, Monty python's flying circus became, you know, the gateway fa- comedy and inspired that Night Live to start over here. And but the experience that John Cleese and the cast had in talk Kohl's John Cleese to come up with a show could Fawlty towers about his experience staying in this bed and breakfast, all these English actors that will fairly famous in their own, right. And the guy who ran the Ben Br. I had no time for them. Excuse me. Could I have a second Cup of tea? Second Cup of tea and so full details was born and the impact of full towers was a John Cleese did two seasons of six episodes was huge biggest comedy in history. And and the BBC said how much do you want for third season? And he said don't not going to do it. He said I'm going to stop on the head on done and inspired another comedian code, Ricky javale's. Yeah. Who when he did the office? He did two seasons of six and the said to him the season he goes, no John Cleese at two seasons was enough. That's all I'm going to do. And they said place, we'll give you any amount of money. See the truck outside full of British Bank notes. We'll tip in your driveway. If you do another show, and he said, I'll deal a one off show. I'm gonna do a finale it's going to be set two years later after the office everyone's gonna come back together. And we'll find out what they've been doing. And they said great tip the money in the driveway. When's it going to be ready and he said into us away, and they made the BBC? Wait, right. Yeah. But it was all because of faulty towels which goes back to Monty python. And I was an extra in Monty python was just gonna ask you get a chance to I was twelve years old. And I was into the scenes I was in the scene where the women's chain the league play. The Australian old black picks in rugby. And I was in the election seen with Tang Fatang biscuit barrel beats conservative potty. So I was just at the crowd. I got paid two pounds. Wow. Which is a twelve year old boy was a lot of money. And I got to me all the cast. And it was it was a thrill. That's great. Yeah. That's how I would. And when did you start you get the two pounds? When did you start then buying albums and getting obsessed with the music when did that happen? But the very first album I bought was the Santrac fit in such the castaways because that starred Hayley mills. Okay. And I was in love with Hayley mills, and it was a gate fold album and pitches of her. So I would look at those late at night before he went to sleep. The ghost not the ghost and MRs Moore. What would you? The. Parent training rep. Yeah. And she was the daughter of Sajal mills very famous English act up and she was beautiful. My gosh. She was all hot little thing. If you're listening hating bills rush on you with things that you, and I shed together that you have no idea. Sorta past. Masturbate to help you. She was so hall, she she wished on General Hospital. I want to say in the last ten years is that we please let on of course, I want to say Hayley mills showed up for day. But story arc on gentlemen. She did a lot of Disney movies in. Yes. Beautiful. I could be wrong. Yeah. And I'm willing to be wrong. She still alive. I hope. So. Okay. Her. To got you back from the dead. Just you don't know. Never funny. Anyone back from you know, this about this show actually the opposite. We probably just killed hailing. We have a weird curse here, Richard. If we bring up somebody obscure in the next week, they die RIP. So yes, we we bay Lewis Haley missiles, very suet. Sometimes if we call it out like Jimmy disa- that sort of protecting them. So it doesn't really work with our president. But. Again, he's not obscure proper. Should be. We should have talked about him in the late nineties or something. Go ahead. You see that dummy? That's in the home alone. Then. Yeah, it would be we gotta have a millstone hospital, Donna meals foreshore. It's Donna mills being she was on it. She'll be pitcher Donna mills. So I can only this to also. Yeah. It's one of those like dynasty ladies. S's? And then I think she ended up coming out your Isaac. You're right. It was not Haley bills. Did Hayley mills. End up doing the first episode of the for the save by the bell. Good morning. Miss list. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Well, I knew I knew it. She had something current on a resume was talking about five years. Donna. Yeah. Could you do we favor aim that completely away? Yeah. I can't. I can't see that statue. It was. Statue it was hospital. All right. So that was the first me, but was that because you wanted to masturbate. What was the first one? You've caught because you wanted to hear the music the Beatles. It was to be. Yeah. It was the Beatles. Had to right near you to. I mean, it was just hand the mounted England. Yeah. It was it was compulsory nobo-. I mean, because the Beatles changed everything. Yeah. You know, prior to the Beatles. It was old Perry coamo and Andy Williams, everyone who was sweat space. Yeah. It was it was it was awful. And then the Beatles changed everything. And you I I mean, it was unbelievable to his she loves you. And I want to know a secret. What was that like because to me like I discovered that I've seen the seventies to my parents albums, but to have been there from that from the the crooner era, and that was what was popular and all that stuff and then to flip to holy shit. This is something we'd never heard before. Like, did you guys all go to schooling? What are we listening to literally you school and Joan Bennett would say to me, I've got the Rolling Stones single and we'd hood about the Rolling Stones. But they wouldn't play it on the radio latte to be played on the radio because there was no pulse radio. And so, you know, four of us would go to Jon benet's has that night. And he would get his Decca record play hunt put on the single and we'd listened to it right through and go. Wow. And he go what's on the back? When you flip over us at the b side. And then go back and listen to over and over again in in a song site satisfaction and paint. It black just changed on a conception of music, and then bands, like the move came on the scene with ROY wood who was just brilliant and went onto the wizard and electric light orchestra afterwards. And then Jerry in the pacemakers it was it was a complete revolution. And that was when the parents, oh, how can you? Listen to this crap. You know, which is what I would say. Now, if I had kids to some of the Radley listen to so it's amazing how it goes around. But the the Beatles inspired pirate radio and pirate radio with these ships that could more than three miles off the coast of England, and they broadcast the signals in which played the Beatles and the stones and the who and all these bands. And then finally in nineteen sixty seven the p the British bull casting corporation had to capitulate and they launch radio one. Suddenly there was a channel. That played this music for the kids. And it was almost the first time the British government never been beaten by anybody Zulus tried and couldn't beat them. But the Beatles dead. Well, remind him. Remind me about a little war that America may of one. Reminder. We wanted to that one. That's why seventeen. Yeah. Wake up the silver medal. You go. Remember, there was a repeat in eighteen twelve. Yeah. But it was. War, the war of eighteen twelve right? Yeah. That's right. You know? And that was the whig is whatever because they tried to stop it on both sides. But because you had to sail ship across to get into messages. The war went on for six week when it shouldn't happen, the White House burned and everything like that. It was it was crazy. In the meantime, both governments are saying. Actually, we're pace. Forth, you know, and they couldn't tweet out time. Yeah. What? You know, something you said, maybe think of something that I just lost. It white has pending that was at the end. Whatever this is what happens if I like, I read your book yet, retained none of the information other than the fact that you got laid a lot. Yeah. Lucky as as a young DJ work in the discotheques. Right. Like, maybe every night is that safe to say. Yeah. It was different times where more. Yeah. More than that, though. More than every night yet. Yeah. You banged around a lot. It was it was an incredible time because. Disco was just happening in Europe and the one country that had the disco culture was England. And but all the clubs that will opening throughout Europe wanted DJ's that could keep people that only night drinking and suddenly young people had money, and they wanted their own culture. And so they would go out to these clubs and there was two agencies the bro deejays in from England to travel the clubs and the clubs and they build you. They lied and build you is a big star. So it would say dick Sheppard those my name the tie dick Sheppard from ABC radio. One often Brady, Alexa, Bogin, but you were putting you know incident or anything like that. And so it would the club, and you will be there for two weeks to a month. And so you with the the star DJ, and you became the notch on the belt for the girls. And you the the number one thing though is get to the room before you played that night because the previous DJ would say watch out for Samantha she's got the clap if you didn't read that before. Ben samantha. Done for two weeks. So, but it was it was a a wild incredible time. And there's a Facebook group of those deejays that we talk about. Oh is that right? Is that a closed group or I think it's public right now. But the company was cooled ide-. A if you look for a let's idea that. Yeah idea, but it was international this jockey and entertainment agency, and it was put together by Alan Laurie who still around, and he does his own voice pot in the audio book of of will in my odyssey, which is cool. Yeah. And Allen was responsible for a lot of people getting late. So, but what would happen? You know? The I remember it really clearly I mean, I won't through the streets during the day. I was in Bergen Norway, which fantastic town fantastic women too. And I mean, I meant a walk through and the voice because Hank DJ turnaround, this really cute go, and she goes on the cloud last night. And I was like, wow. She goes do you want to come back to my place that that was it? A different time. It was a completely different and your hero. Because you're in these small towns and. I mean it so not PC to say, but we were in Scandinavia when they gone over and raped and pillaged England. The Joe was doing the same with act, but it wasn't raping and pillaging. It was it was based British culture to the Vikings. They put it what you just said. Don't maybe I should have got your book on tape is what I whatever the term is these days. Yeah. Oh, the audiobook audiobook to hear your voice tell those stories would have been wonderful now hearing my version of my richer played it fresh as I'm reading. The book on tape so to speak. The audio version came out in September. There was a long delay. Because I actually went to everybody in the book to have them do their own paws. So it started with John Taylor. From Duran Duran because John Lila tokamak done audio book, and I'd actually gone to a couple of stops on his book toll when he did sex and drugs and dry and Durant. And he said you're not in the first chapter one. I read it for you. So I was like brilliant. Oh, fantastic. And he came over to the house did it in the home studio. And then he said could I read my other parts that are in the book? So I went you'll John Thailand, you asking a few could here's the Mike do it. So he did the stuff at Live Aid where he brought me back onstage after Bill Graham threw me off. And then he goes told me to get Simon to do his stuff. I was like all my God as I do. And so he did it. And so I called up tarry, and she did all this stuff. And then the guy some span ally did it, and then fisted it, and then I reached that to Alan Lori and my other Asian toll tendon and some of the goals I being with and they did their own pots, and I sent you wanting to change the name and all the goal said, no use use my name. So all the artists are in it today. And then finally the last group I went to because they're in it so much let me guess is. It depends. I went to the manager and said would it be possible? And he said, absolutely. And so to Pash so everyone anytime, it's Depeche mode. Oh durant. Spent a ballet or oh, MD or tia's, fizz or English beat. It's then to love it. I'm so talk. I have already read it. Yeah. You'll remember it because they'll be read to you. So no information whatsoever. I understand that our president's not doing well. Passing what tell the story, please. Bill Graham, throwing you off stage at live eight. Well, what happened with Live Aid? It was an exclusive broadcast. We tween ABC networks and MTV networks that was it. But we'd done a lot of coverage at the odds festival. So as to huge festivals, the eighty two and eighty three and the people who are staging Live Aid had worked on the festival, and they contacted us and said would you like to come down and shoot any of this? And I was like, absolutely. So I paid for it myself me and a guy called PD face. A and a small crew to fly out and cover it for two shows. I was doing video beat and video one right? And so we flew out, and we had press passes, which meant we could only be in the press tent. We couldn't go anywhere else because ABC and MTV at the coverage, but the producer eight me Alexis. Passes, but they wouldn't the same as the same coverage. So I would add this idea that is in the book that if we were nice to the security rather than try and hassle security. Don't you know, who we are, you know, because if you have to say that then immediately you've lost because they don't know. You know? So we approached the security early in the morning we walked in as ABC what going in MTV will going in and we won't tend, but we had the wrong passes. And so we stopped right in front of the security put cameras down, and I turned to the head security guard and went man, it's going to be a tough day fee. The temperatures are going to be so high let me know if you need any waters, and he goes down we got plenty of waters. But if you have ever come across any bit bring us some out I said, well, I'm going to I'm going to Duran's tent right now. So I'll bring you some because that would be great, and I want you got it. Then we will fight by let us go. And so the first thing I did was grab some went back to him and gave him some bit. And so we'd won the approval of the security. So we didn't hassle. Anyone we went pushing? We got the interviews backstage and onstage. We actually sh. Shooting on the onstage of live eight and everything was going incredibly well until right before power station, and I'm shooting, and this voice comes out to me and goes to fuck you doing up here. I turn ran its Bill Graham, and he grabs my pass and he throws in my face. And he goes you get back in the fuck impress ten choosy goes if I see you up here, I'm going to break that camera on your back. So I mean, you don't argue it Bill Graham is his show. I mean, he put the whole thing on. I mean, it's like if Trump is kicking you out the White House you have to leave. I mean, you know, and he he was the that Donald Trump off the day. So you know for Live Aid. So we walked off one side of the stage, and we began out very sad procession of me and pita this produce Monte gas and the camera crew we'll walk it off and as we're walking past the second stack because it was such a big. Age. This voice goes, Richard. You not leave in all you would just about to go on. And it's Joan Taylor from from Duran Duran. But he was going on I with house nation, and I went no, I mean, we we'd love to stay Johnny goes. Oh, come on. He goes just going up right now. So he got his security guy. Who's in the photograph in the book, you can say it who he assigned to us to escort us. And from then on we had our own personal security godmother at we stayed on that side of the state praying Bill. And if he was you know, the security, I hopefully would at least the first blow. So stay with us the whole time. And we were there on stage with Chevy Chase, Mick Jagger and Madonna for the finale of we are the world and do they know it's Christmas. So if it hadn't been for John Taylor, you know, we in a tent. Yeah. We would have been gone. We'd have been sitting back in the ten. We bad cheese sandwiches waiting fulfilled. All inst- come off and say, what was it like to play with Led Zeppelin? So, but we were that it was an amazing moment in time was that. I ha beautiful was John Taylor during that day. Just pee. All he's a beautiful, man. I is still great looking. Yes. Still one of the nicest guys and a great bass player. Oh, how he fantastic Mandarin. One of the most underrated musicians. I think it history of the eighty music even and even today because you know, they've got thirty five years of experience, but you listen to that debut album, the self titled Taran Durant and the second album Rio, and you could hear the power and the energy these five guys who wanted to conquer the Lil. And did you know, and it was amazing and John says in his book, and I I saw so many times I saw at the Greek theater in eighty two when I brought them on for the Rio toy, and I saw it when the forum in eighty four and at Live Aid all John had to do was look ago if he goes, I then. When he would look to the side of the stage and point to one of his handlers. And it was done David Lee Roth said he didn't have to say a word. I would he he's beautiful. I know you. I'm not gay. But if he looked my yeah, I'm in. Yeah. I mean, he he was gorgeous. He was one of the biggest bands in the world because the whole thing about a aid, which became Live Aid. It would never have happened with that to office because Mitchell and Bob Geldof with desperately looking for anyone to record this charity single than they had in November of eighty four and Mitchell said to bulb let me let me see who's in town and the first person he caught up with staying and staying said, I'll do it and Mitchell. Okay, we got someone, but we we need a band and he went out for drinks at night. And who is in the pub, the local as they ought Durant around because he is, you know, in a different kind of circle, and he said to the guys would you do it and? Ryan said, yes. And then suddenly was staying and Durant in everybody when the F repotting, so the I mean, it was Durant and staying that really helped create what became the biggest selling single of all time at the time. And then the biggest concert in history period. So crazy I want to ask about that. What happened to your footage from Live Aid? Were you able to use it because you know? To use it got release releases directly from the autism. That's that was what Monte gas STA the juicy he had the claim bought. And I actually still have that footage. It must be incredible. And yeah, a lot of people have been talking to me about doing to in my eyes as a documentary home and also as a series, and I've been actually I have a meeting this afternoon about it. And when they they say love the book, and this is my idea, and it's great. You know, we the thinking of Netflix, Hulu, Amazon, and unlike great, then I they've done that pitch to me I say to them, by the way, his little idea, you know, because the token about as well as documentary Tunis a scripted series. I said, you know, whoever act ever to place, Richard blade or the off Richard blade. You know, I own all the original footage from back in the day of me interviewing Duran Duran and culture club, and Frankie goes to Hollywood into Pash mode and everything like that. I said wouldn't it be cool? If and I don't think it's ever been done before the as PA of this scripted series that the actor is CGI ova may talking with the real people, George and a talking with beautiful John Taylor and roads Simon LeBow at the time. And they go to this footage actually exists. And I've got sizzle reel. I send them. And usually about thirty minutes later, I get a phone call back, which is spluttering. Two foot data but go so eighty incredible. So it might one of these days, actually, which would be really fun. I mean, yes, it's not just have it. I would love to see it. Because it's it's just incredible. Yeah. So you were witness to the zeppelin reunion. Absolutely. Well, as fleet funniest should say that because Monty gassed who was the producer. Who was with us was always work, but the moment zeppelin reunion was about to happen. He just handed me the clip one set to go. He became the ultimate fat. Was there for the reunion? You know, and what we did know historically it. They hated it. It didn't sound great so on and so forth. But if you're there in the moment, it probably sounded amazing because you were that. Yeah. And you wanted to be that. And you just like we were talking about the doors earlier, you put all the sound and all the performance the side because you that a moment in time when this incredible band Led Zeppelin back together. Yeah. And you're like just why how it's it's happening. You know, it was weird about that. He was only like five years after or six years, I guess after they John bottom away. What seventy nine hundred say, right. So it wasn't that long. But it still seemed like could you believe it's happening? Yeah. Like it had that vibe to it. They said it was never going to happen. And it has really never happened again since it was the oh to. Yeah. But I mean, it was just that that was the moment. Yeah. If you were there in person in Philadelphia, I couldn't wait. It was hap-. It was it was crazy. Yeah. They're still in their prime. You know? Right. Two things. This old men. Yeah. That's a great point. Yeah. Robert plant, we still top of his game vocally. And I mean Robert plant was one of the pit AMIS of rockstar. I mean, you mentioned David Lee Roth. I think David Lee Roth with van Halen in eighty four was the enemy of the video rockstar. That we owe you look jump, and that that is I mean that is the eighties rock video, but robot plant that might be your oh with ignore. I told the ringer offs. I apologize red. But yet hit it going to be. So your own phone. Just interrupt the day you go. So I mean, absolutely. But rubber plant for the late sixties and seventies rock stars. That was him and Roger Daltry. Yes. I mean, they had the body. The had the voice the show. Yes. Every girl in this in high school in grade school, those are the two guys they loved. Oh. Yeah. Absolutely. Then we're lesser extent. Bob seger. They all went crazy for. Seeger and really in the eighties. I grew up in Chicago south side, Chicago kind of a working, man. Yeah. Against Bob Seger. But it's not just surprised that you know, if if I'm standing there and God saying, okay? So who do you want to come back at? Chiwetel trae robot plan above -sego, excuse me. God you did say, thanks. For the rubber plan, or you know, all I'm gonna Raji Roger Daltry Idaho's. Yeah. Roger Daltrey Daltry. Right. Yeah. But he's still in great shape too. Sorry. It seemed like he was having more fun. If you listen to the songs, it just seems like maybe maybe he was a little more fun than Bobby. Punt just there's a lot of there's a lot of there's a lot of sadness in heartbreak in those. Let's upland songs. Whereas the the a lot of Senate Piton doesn't write a happy song. Sure. But I don't I don't know. I see Daltry is being a happier guy. That's in my mind, when I see them singing, it just seems like Roger Dalton happier guy, and are okay. But how about going onto a with an Halen in eighty four would be awesome. If you could just do that that period of time, if they said, I you coming back for nine months Massa guy, would you like to go on the road as David Lee Roth for nine months, what about Paul Stanley in seventy eight seventy seven that might that might be. Yeah. Right. A boy a weekend. Sexist heroes. It's crazy. We're all supporting I'm gonna come back as Madonna in eighty-five. All right. I'll be Cindy Lauper any four they. Yeah. Yeah. What Richard is having been in that era, which is Myra the eighties. Was there any band that came through k rock where you went? These guys are going to be huge and it never happened. Yeah. Go west, I loved them. Yeah. They would tipped as being the next WAM. Yes. And they was such nice guys Richardson pita. Yeah. And always remember them because my best friend is pita Peter face, and he produced the video shows, and we used to joke about it all the time, Richard and pita with rich and pita, right? And then in eighty I went over to know sorry, two thousand eight I went over to England to to thing with ABC at the Royal Albert whole, and I ran into pita Cox from go west. And I said it's as paid up. So about Iowa's still that they would be huge. But they had the two hits, you know, close our eyes. Don't look down that another one. Yeah. Well, they had one on Pretty Woman as well. Yeah. Which was outside of the K Roth, full, Matt. Right. But you know, they never became as big as obviously no one became as big one. Of course, just massive a by the way, there's going to be a book released on one and a richly just announced eighty really ago. Oh, gee that news. Yes. Going to be cooled when George and me, and it's just going to go from nineteen eighty to eighty six rhino WAM just concert, and I've read some of from him, and it's really good. And really honest about how George was the musical talent. And he was so happy to be there for the right, which so many people would change Iran's again. I did. Yeah. Now, he's very honest and fray good. So I think when that comes out in September, it's going to be a weight. Yeah. Yeah. I saw them in eighty four. I guess it would have been when they did was any four eight five eight five it would have been there the tour when they came into like five cities in the state. Yep. Yep. At poplar creek in the Chicago land area, and I the story I tell us I was with my girlfriend dawn, and I we were had first row because I was nuts for WAM. They favorite band of the eighties. And I we were there and George Michael in my head kept looking at dawn. And of course, now, we know he had no interest in doing nothing. In my direction. I swear to God. I got jealous like irrationally met like met at her. Why is he looking at you that much like I would just a kid. But, but you know, what doesn't want this. We saw those pictures saw those pictures. Oh, that's right. You guys think I was handsome in the eighties. It's still good looking man. Go look there. You gotta you're right. You're right. But went on a great show. I introduced them on stage when they played at Hollywood park here. Yeah. On a fantastic show. They open and cla maybe the same thing with everything she wants they open and closed with it because they had nine songs. The time. Yeah. You know, great. They really were that the music still holds up listened to Kenneth Kenneth whisper. Oh, what song how did that guy? Right that. So he was sixteen when he wrote that how do you write that song with such heartache in emotion at the? I mean, we all those breakups that age, but but still to be able to funnel that into that song which and he gave the songwriting credit. How dare it to Andrew because he knew it was going to be the last WAM song. So he wanted Andrew to go out with a song that would be played forever. And I mean, the royalties on that must be just being credit class that he would do that too for your buddy. Yeah. And he, but he wanted to be in the video because he knew it was going to launch the solo career for George Michael's. If you look at the video fa- callous whisper, Andrew only makes a tiny cameo. It's it's old George, Michael. But he said in return, you get the songwriting credit. So I mean well. That's that is one of the I mean of all the songs at side of the Beatles. Catalogue that would be my number two choice to have the songwriting credit on might have one would be. Is it a Beatles song? No, okay. Decided the Beatles aren't outside of the Beatles. Number one. If it's Nike swimmer too. I'm gonna go ahead. And guess it's something by. Actually did a song code something. That would be kind of cool. No, it's actually not by Depeche. But it is it is new wave and it came out in eighty three and it's been covered. So many times this being featured in more than fifty movie soundtracks. Sure. I know what you do. Are you gotta get close virtually every live gig. With at the first note the moment of very I note comes on everyone goes. Can you play the first note on your phone, and I play I let me let me give you a clue this. This is how I would wrap up. If this this podcast was a live gig. The I was doing at a club right fake sample. I just did this fiftieth birthday for couple Stephen. So at Saint, Rockingham Mosa beach. I don't know why. I don't know why they. You know? But at the end of the night, I was like thank you so much for having me be your own personal Tice. Fantastic to be if with you you being a great crowd gonna give you shout tomorrow on Sirius XM, and I know this was your fiftieth, but his to another fifty happiest together because that much is true. Note comes everyone goes to show. Yeah. But that song that's being played so much, and Gary Gary camping wrote it is a good friend of mine royalties that come in is just imagine ridiculous. I just saw Tony Hadley out at the the Rosa Pasadena, right and still great still gripe still grass politically, I guess not on board with my same thoughts is what I'm told that maybe build more conservative than he maybe he is. But he, you know, and he split from Spanish house had to get another lead singer. But have you seen the new league? I I have not but two of my friends went to see him in London. And Steve tag the manager to care of them. And they were right there up front. Anthony said oh my God. He is so hot. Okay. So our question. Good singer as well. Okay. But it's so hard to replace elite singer, Tony Hadley had so much charisma or has this day, and the voice and the beautiful God. That's didn't you go. See him. At the arose. And he didn't I love through the barricades such a great job by them. They're they're the man I was talking about how they're the one from the eighties. Like, we all just went. Well, true. That's a separate song. Who cares? They deserve more credit than they got. They were just terrific. Absolutely. I mean, chat number one and communication. Yeah. And to cut a long story. Short was incredible song. I mean so much power and Gary Kemp, great songwriter and his favorite song. If you ask Gary camp, what's your favorite song through the barricades, which didn't do anything over here at all? But it was based on a true story. Oh is that? Right. Yeah. One of the roadies went home to see his family and island and got shot in the back during join that the the the troubles. Yeah. And he died he was twenty three Jesus. And so he'd because he'd crossed through the barricades and got shot, and Gary Kemp wrote that song in tribute to it. But it's a great beautiful beautiful song. Yeah. I Richard blade is realistic. Quick break. We come back. We'll do more. And I got to say we're going to have to play sevens. Got to play eighty seven. We've back great for this. Hey, guys, mannerism dates for your Richard blades on Twitter at Richard blade. Just where you'd expect to find him. Also, you can find his book world in my eyes anywhere books are sold. Also, check out the audio version. It's got people like John Taylor. From duran. Duran Terry non lots of other eighties artists telling their own story or reading their parts of his book. And I can't wait to check that out myself. Also, Richard is on I wave radio on Sirius XM all the time. I don't even know what it schedule is. But every time I turn it on. He's on there talking about eighties music, which is his passion. And I love that about him. 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You know eve looks cool. That's what these things look like. Yeah. Looks really it's a cool looking item. And again, you can get a cheaper than the big box store. I think he can't anyway by by going to Eero dot com slash Pardo. Entering part of a checkout. Ero- a better way to wifi heavily walked back to the program episode twenty four zero six Richard blade is air. We I guess we checked with Ellie Hobart enough earlier a little bit. The only thing I want to say as you're talking about Duran Duran. Yes, we are for for me. The the memory that I have is. Dran Durant self titled album was my first Dolby noise reduction cassette tape, and so I saw them with that. And I associate them with the little noise. I guess that the Dolby thing does to kind of like make sure it's all set the lip and because of that I listened to it like I turn the volume up that recording studios session, whatever they did is so clean. Yeah. So amazingly clean. It it that made an impact on me. So I just thought that seems appropriate to Randy Randy spoken to them before. I you know, I like shot. A and I I'd like George, Michael as you know, I do know. But yeah, I have I have a soft spot for grander. And here's the thing noise reduction more than. Call them was. Okay. But the noise. Listen, I could settle that. Silence. Forever. You know, I grew up in Los Angeles. And there was one kid in my junior high school who had the sort of new wave, you know, sort of flip haircut, and he didn't do so well like people were not really friendly to him even here in Los Angeles in my junior high school, they they they gave him a hard time. So it was hard to the I guess mid eighties. Right. Well, so yeah. Eighty three junior high school and high school was was eighty eight so. For me when I saw that like, I was already not the most popular kid. I'm like, I'm not going to go talking about Duran Duran win the guy. Who's obviously the biggest fan of Duran Duran is being given a hard time by folks. So that was probably part of it. I don't believe that here, Los Angeles. I mean this year bread and butter. Absolutely. I mean, L L A and Orange County. If you didn't listen to karaoke, right? I mean, you well, here's the thing. It might have just been him. Let's put someone to blame on this. The only person who was like in in my junior high school and his junior high school. So you know, it's harder to express yourself. And that sort of thing he definitely did. I don't know there's any could also be my perception of it. But that's that's one of the reasons why didn't get more into it is because I was a little afraid if I'm honest, visit more more conservative school like were you did you feel like people weren't being judged for expressing themselves outside of a very very. I mean, it was you know, Beverly Hills. No, it was here in Brentwood. It was the we're not in behold tell you here in Los Angeles in Brentwood. Yeah. But you know, we're not rent. Have you seen the movie sing straight? Yeah. Oh. Oh my gosh. That's the movie that so many people should see I think I don't I've never met anyone who didn't lie in their head must have exploded. Because it's British and it's eighties music. And the songs are so good. It's fantastic and Larsen everything it was I didn't like the ending. The ending was terrible. Terrible. Terrible aside, just ignore the ending. The movie so incredibly great. I have I think three of the songs there's on-track on my running mix tape. Cool. They fit right in which. With such a great song. Yeah. So perfect. Yeah. Elliott you see the movie I have not you got to see it. All right fitting in school. You know? Really is about that. Yeah. Get and it's always like very much the Paddington two of that year. Like, nobody Paddington to know have not greatest really critical. It's the best movie you've last year. Wow. Why would I want to watch a movie about train station? It is not I'm joking. I know you are rich. Yeah. I used to go to Paddington all the time because that's coming from the south of England you go to London you have to go into Paddington. So Paddington bad though. I know. Yeah. Oh penn. Fifteen let me give a shot at talking. Oh, just finished it last night because my wife, and I don't binge we like to watch episode and oh my gosh. The go who plays Maya in it. I'm going to go on record right now. She's going to win the EMMY next year, if you agree with that you're watching I think they're they're both grade. Both great go my I mean, she's risks and chat. I think so. Yeah. But it's it's really every episode. Yeah. Right. It is a phenomenally good. You're watching it too. I have not watched it yet. I'm gonna put into list now. I only remember that Hulu exists when you're watching other Hulu shows, you know, and they're like, all right. There's like this whole other. Do you watch? I mean, my wife loves it even more than me if that's possible because his moments is a guy shore when I'm watching this. I'm like, I don't think I should be watching this because. Fifteen year old goes going, you know, but then you realize it's not thirteen year old goals because the two main characters thirty one playing out with teenage boys. They'd have a funny thing at the end of an episode where it says body doubles were used in certain shots. So they do get around. That is okay. There's a scene where you think that's going to happen. I'm like how is this going to work? It's a grown woman in a real a real thirteen year old boy, and they don't end up to he's not eighteen an actor. You can tell that this kid. He's actually yet. And all the rest of the cast are real the really, well, maybe they showed in Louisiana. Oh, sorry. Wwl phony. But no. But it it really is a fantastic. How you will love it. I promise and the wife just I mean because I look and goes it does that have. She's oh, yeah. That's that's in your girls. I do love explaining what Penn fifteen means to people. Does that addressed in the show? I've done finished it today ever get into that. They don't just a just shows that so I mean, I'm a little bit older than these girls are portraying. But as a way of like pranking, your friends, you'd say to want to be part of the pen fifteen club, and then you would write pen fifteen on your friends hand, and then it says penis on their hands. So that is what the show is is a lotta Pena's references though in it cool. So. I'm trying to I'm. You will. I promise it. It is everyone branch leave early and the girls, the the the actress is a fantastic. I mean, they so so good and the whole level the whole cast everything. I mean, I take my take my headphones off to them. Yeah. That tip my head. I take my headphones. I love it. We are. We're watching the ad non thing on HBO to episodes into that which won the case against Adnan Siad pool. The remember the. Serial about the maybe you don't know how. How old I doubt. I'm always looking for good stuff. I don't know. If this is it. It's interesting. The podcast is good. Right. The basically reinvestigating a case where there's a man who's in prison for murdering his girlfriend in high school. And he insists he's innocent. And so this podcast, basically, dug it all up and tried to figure out the truth. And didn't really come to anything any conclusion. There's no there's no like a ha moment. But but now there's documentary about him and about the phenomenon the podcast was very popular. And it sort of the his case was reopened as a result of the podcast. And so that the documentary gets into that too. I guess right. Really? So I just a tad, okay? After the second episode yesterday was why would revisiting this. Yeah. What would we just had the podcast just watching it? Now with visuals. I mean, I've been seriously I do have that curiosity of wanting to see the the people and see what they look like. And but other than that allow this is heavy stuff. It is. Yeah, it is. So any good lists making? I know. No, it's not your childhood issue. See sex education know, how that's also supposed to be. Oh, right. British and. Yeah. That might help your wealth house British we'll sort of John. Yeah. Because that's the it's really isn't amalgamation of everything even though again, it's created by a very talented female. I mean, just put together brilliantly. But you never told where it is all when it is. So everyone's dressed eighties, but the cell phones, but the cause all eighty s and the music cues a mostly eighties, except when the no it, and it's incredibly colorful, incredibly sexual law of nudity, and Gillian Anderson is fantastic in it, and it is just a brilliant show. And it's a love story to John Hughes. Great. I if he'd had no censorship than this is what he would have done. But it is it's filmed in Wales, but it's not told it could it could be anywhere. Right. And do some of the I know Jillian ashes American, but are there other American? Believable. I my mind idea until we watched another show which ended up like four what was called the full, you know. Yeah. Which is great. Yeah. Yeah. I thought she was doing an excellent in that. No, that's a real. That's a real voice. I saw I saw about this. I was blown away when I found out about it too. Yeah. I know idea but anyway, sex education Penn fifteen both fantastic. And again, not just from the guy's point. If you my wife loved loved loved, those those great. Yeah. Gillian Anderson born in Chicago but raised in England. But other other key are some of the kids American and some of them are the most most of them are you K, but a few are American and like some of the costs the from the eighties apart from the ones that aunt. There's no explanation, and the idea is we don't have to explain its anytime anywhere, and the the the up you acid wash jeans, except when the not, you know, it's all right? It's no shot beautifully. You'll love it. So many things to watch. Yeah. Good things. Well, yeah. Mad who's the most famous person oils if you had to pick probably Tom Jones up north of not, no. Across the bottom row that at once. Jimmy row. Of the day to make myself skits while the come to Pete ballgame put my body and sue while around me, I won't go into the ozone. I'm gonna cut it up behind you backbone and other state along with I'm not wanted. I feel haunted him. Vampire, not being able to come to your house unless you invite him in. He can only do that rapid. If somebody else says on say. Man, who is my second favorite rapper boats. George Michael Kukoc. Why cou with? Right. Don't let hot Thompson in the wake of ram member. Don't give a damn those my favorite rappers two white men day. Joe? You have no business ramping, Richard. You have a new book coming out. Yes. I do just finish. I don't know. Yeah. Okay. I don't know. I'm torn between self publishing and going with the publisher. Okay. So, but it's a big action adventure novel. Oh, and it's based on a screenplay. I wrote a long time ago wrote it in two thousand and three. Okay. And when out and pitched it and everybody loved him. I mean bruckheimer loved everybody loved it. And they all said we'd love to do it. But it priced at too high for a first time, right? They said we can't take the chance because if it falls flat, then we lose studio deal. So since then I've written a couple of things had a movie made for lifetime could long lost son. And then after this book, I've had several people approach me saying we'd like to do, but with you. And so I said, okay, but not the sequel yet. On do the sequel, which is going to be cooled. Just can't get enough. Yeah. But but the the book I wanted to write this one. And so I just finished going through the final final rewrite of it. And it's it's come out better than I thought. So I think it's going to be it's going to be I'll give you the title. Yes. I'll give you the title SP Qihua as p q r and we have to guess what that stands forty care. I it's a it's not no it says something to do with the British the queen's isn't the q the Queen someone else. No, no. I don't I thought that was some most eatings, right? We're getting someone looking up SP. He Q r it's special Sunday Latin out prefers to government of Roman Republic. Right. Right. It's it's just populace key. Ramona's. It's on some currency, isn't it or it's the most famous abbreviation acronym in history. Okay. No. If you into history, it is the symbol of the governing body of the Roman empire. God him. So if you soul if you'll living in a forest in Germany goal over Britain or Spain, and you sold these letters coming tools U s p q r u turn ran around life run like hell is after you because it means the Roman empire has come on. She's but it's an alternate history. Okay. On the Roman empire goal so forth too high. I honestly, I know it's like oh go to we'll John blazer be involved in the audience. Well, he's in chapter two. What would have happened? If the Roman empire discovered Depeche mode. No. Them. All right. Let's play sevens. Yeah. All right bar short short short. All right. Right. Suddenly very self conscious about that cue because that's that's not a that's not of Richard blade tapes. Now, by I know by Bryan Adams, yet, don't you worry about that? I know you've got this idea. I'll try not really brands. That's great Bryan Adams at Live Aid was incredibly. No. Yeah. I was a member him back of the stadium. Yeah. When he went on stage, and he just rocked Philadelphia. He was he was fantastic. Also. Yeah to. Yeah. Levity kids gotta rock. I wanna say did because like a knife meaning summer sixty nine sixty nine. Yeah. All right. Can okay? Here's a quick before we start. Here's a quick guy. We always play. What's at six degrees of Kevin bacon? What is the six degrees between Richard? I can we figure it out six degrees. And so I don't even know if Richard knows this is it have to be filming TV it's I think. Yes. Okay. Because otherwise, well, Richardson girls just wanna have fun. So that connects them to Sarah, Jessica, Parker, don't you? Some way to. It's closer than that. You don't know. Only one. There's one person there's one degree. There's one thing that the notes up. Okay. Buddy bean. I don't know. If you spend six degrees. We have worked worked worked on a project, but not together we're gonna plod but not together and he clues. Well, we'll talk more about it off the air. But let's discover it on the air wasn't Dreamgirls with it. No. Was it a TV project? TV pre game show is it is it was it make what was the the band thing. Oh, who created that TV show that then got cut out then who became sultans tho- banter, United States? Did you create that? Yes. I did. Well, and you got cut out. Oh, Richard will talk off the air. Oh my goodness. Is awful awful. Because is brought into after they've been trying to get it going for about a year. When I was brought in they done to failed pilots. Yep. What was mine? I didn't even know about the second one. Yeah. I and the the third pilot was going to be Berlin. That was the one I said, let's get gone. They said, no, no, no, no, no, no. We want to make sure Berlin is in the show. We can't do fail pilot. I promise you it will not fail. It will not fail and then two days into shooting the so-called pilot. They green lit the series. So I'm I- soap on I hate to think because I I've had so many things stolen from me. Over the years. And I'm not Lissette. I'm not someone who goes, okay? I'm gonna sue your ass almost said somebody's name. Huge star really chill. No tell I'll tell you all tell you off the four to blue. Oh, okay. Well, I'm not gonna say it because I think I know what you mean. Yeah. And you are on camera. So. I was I well that's still big lies away. Yes. It could be. Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, we actually threatened. We said we did threaten to sue. We're talk. Well, were it was not for Viacom Viacom, bring it on. And we were like me. Okay. I know it it's I know it's it's a nasty nasty nasty business. So that's what all my goodness. I did not know that. I did the the wire trained pilot was the one that I did this the guy what was CSI, right. Then the guy on Wyatt train. It wasn't one of the guys y train. He worked with a set. Dresser. I heard about that pilot. I never got to see it. Everything he's saying is true. Got screwed up. It was good and oddly wire train was one of my favorite bands. And then they said, oh, yeah. Because they wanted it was supposed to be foreigner. Then somehow that did not happen. And they said we we might be able to get this band called wire train like this one of my favorite bands of all time. And we did it with wire training got them back together for the three. It was one of those. I felt like for three weeks. They really we're back together. Let's do this. We all like being with each other again. And then they all went we don't like being with you. Which is kind of a fun PA the show to see and think they're going to work and. That said even though I was pissed off and angry. I watched the show and loved it. It was great. It was but Shane that was taken from you, man. I hate I hate that. You see it so much in this business. It was myself. And Pat Francis woman named Lisa Knapp Weaver the three though an Lisa's. Lisa state with it. But that's it. I. Can we play six degrees of Kevin bacon for me? Oh, okay. You and him one degree. Okay. You with with actual Kevin big. We're in footloose. No, she's having a baby. Yeah. I I was at the end when they have all the celebrities come on and get the name of the baby I come on right after Han. Which watson? Bassel which was the character in full towels. Right. Is that a John Hughes movie too? Yes. Yeah. There you go. Together in more. All right. We're doing eighties music. This could either be kill it or the bed. All right here, we go. So again, I'm gonna give you clues. Okay. We have seven seconds to get each one. Okay. You want to get them as quickly as possible. Right. All right here, we go. And Tina tone. Yes. The divine miss m Bette midler. Yes. Suzanne Hoff band. Bengals. Yes. Bon jovi's. Biggest hit living unafraid s push it push it real good, roast salt and pepper. Yes. The opposite of no is. Yes. Poisons big hit a alad. Oh, that was a poisons big hit was bell out, boys. Oh, the the flower that every every rose has. That was me. I locked up. Once you didn't get idea you're rolling that was I think that's a warm up round. That's the one with. Okay. What was this wasn't very eighties twenty six that's still. That's okay. All right here, we go warm up. Yeah. You could have been the the high score. I think it's thirty three. So all right here, we go you ready. Yeah. Okay. So now that you know, how we do it. Okay. To pass out. What's going on? There's someone at the door which that human being doing, okay? Hang on Elliott. What's happening is up until that package? Oh, thank you. Oh, thank you. It's Bret Michaels. I know Bryant. He's Gabby rose. Okay. Very disappointed to hear this. I can find all this just being delivered anywhere. It's it's in such the castaway some. Ended up her. What is happening Michael just delivered? Here we go. No panic is that when was so good until the end. But again, I blame myself that was a warm up now. Now, we we're in the groove knows how it works. Okay. Here we go. Our house is the madness not not bandaids the other one Michael Jackson. Oh, yes. Not to be Gibson. But the Tiffany, yes. Billy adults may hit us a nice day for a white wedding. Yes. The little boy from the from the five gentlemen sexual harassment. How do I Michael Jackson? All right. We're moving on. Oh, kelly. Oh, boy, not let toy or jet. Hurler that does that too. A million things. Okay. Here's what we're okay. That was going so well, yeah. God damn it go. All right here, we go from one of the five or so. Stat up all of your shut up. All right. All right here. We go. All right. Every. Carrying Queen that guy. Oh, billy. Oh, yes. Come on. I leaned that band a deck season. I miss. Bette? Davis is Kim calling. Yes. The police watching you. Oh, yes. Robert Smith that banned the keel, John. Prayer living on a prayer on Jovi. Yes. Crazy haircut, Iran. Oh, fuck ac- my school. Twenty-eight old eight it was that was very very good. But the Bon Jovi locked it does the load out. Yeah. You get more points. The fast. Oh, I think that was twenty. It's a good score though. That's really really good record the clues. What if Richard gave to U S? Okay. Do you try? Yeah. Are you are you comfortable trying all press the button, you just have to you'll see clues. And then I'll tell them about the thing where there's words that they can. And can't you know? Yeah. If there's something in parentheses, you can say like sometimes he'll say, I'm an actress sending live where she actually says. Richard button. Actress says what you can say it. All right. All right. So if it's like this if it's a song title, and it says the artists underneath you can use the artist name out located okay panic here, we go. It prints. Cry you play Halloween, and it's a guy who was in a band with five people next. The next one. Okay. Love stinks. Jake houseman. Oh sorry to blue Monday. The my new order. He was a bandleader on Saturday night. Live g Smith. Another one. I don't okay, it's a nice day for a white wedding. Billy idol. Super freak rich aims. Okay. What happened there seems so tense? Got it. So. Okay. Do quite a John Ross Bowie position. You can say that you can say the name. I'll I could say, okay. Well, you and you would with prince you did the although there's so many print songs says we got wind dubs cry. Okay. The other the other one while saying Halloween. Huge song navy the album, Michael Jackson. You just had a problem with him earlier. Okay. Okay. So you both have a problem with. Yes. Yeah. We gotta have we had to do a Gyles of this j guiles too late and then. You know feeling hot hot hot? Bandleader? Yeah. Oh, no. He was not was he not Johannesen. I'm not sure he was. No, no. That's Jason up. Yeah. Yeah. No, no maybes. Man, Twenty-eight the way we should have just ended on the twenty eighth really impressive. Somehow yet. Richard feel bad about. I feel never you never know until you try if maybe it was going to be brilliant. Stunk Richard being hey, it was a pleasure and welcome back anytime just scratched the surface on stories. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you about committee is so great. I really really appreciate that and read the pa- Matt you call Mark. No. And I said, Matt don't you think? I said this guy's. Okay. Hang on. My phone off. Hey, go. The name of the book is world in my eyes. Absolutely. And it's great. And apparently, you got to get this thing to God. I'm getting the audiobook today because I can't wait to hear all these people telling their comeback after you've listened to the audio. Okay. Great cool, and not only all those people this voice doing, of course, the love this voice about Richard. Right. You know, the he does not like ketchup iron. You're allergic to catch up. Is that true? No, I told I love catch up. The vegetable what is it? That's what Ronald Reagan used to call it the other vegetables catch. Yeah. Yeah. But what do I see her too? Because I I told you because I thought it was just so funny. It felt like a non sequitur I swear to God you said on the radio once that you were deathly allergic to catch up. Now. What is it are you allergic? The only thing I'm allergic to is pineapple. And I love pineapple by would break out fiving, the whole math would break out. And I said to talk to drew one time guy every time I go to Hawaii. I said, I don't know if it's a soul, Asana, whatever I break out. And he goes well, let you do in Hawaii. I asked I'm going to do it. And he said anything you eat and no pinochle Ladas. He goes t-. You had the pineapple on this. I said, yes, it goes your legit to citric acid also. No. But just the polls. And and if I was to have good Marie calendar's? And have they glazed? Strawberry pie lays it with pineapple because it's the sweetness in house this year. So I say, oh, but very. For oh, anything that catch up? That's crazy. Sometimes I catch up on Christa. And I just lick it off if I love it that much so no. No, no, no. Let's raise the table. Okay. Almost heartbroken that I've with remembered butter. Do you not like peanuts? Now. Now, we know I probably would love peanut butter but growing up in England at this. I that's it. Yeah. We didn't have you didn't have it. That's what the story become a lifelong quest of mine. Never. I've never eaten. It. The interesting thing about me. It's not allergy shells because you didn't have it as a kid. You just decided I'm just gonna go my whole life and win the civil war breaks and the Richard blade. Look like spy is cool. You give them a maybe about a sandwich. Richard. Thank you for being here. Thank you for having me Hannah. Thank you for joining us. It's so my pleasure. I took time. She's gonna right pen fifteen. Oh, my. We have of Hannah filling in for for a day back there. There's the the human groundout Elliott hockberg, the Hajim at bell Knepper, new friend, Richard blade. I'm Jimmy Pardo's. 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Special Report: Tommy (1975)

The Projection Booth Podcast

3:36:57 hr | 10 months ago

Special Report: Tommy (1975)

"Christopher media let's make some noise proud to announce Lee outstanding rock opera film. The West little thing goes by John. A director Ken. Russell van producers have made a film of top on assembled some of the greatest names and use it on the Senate Tommy by the WHO and based on the Rock Opera by Peter Towns Stars and Jack. Nicholson how John John. Eric Clapton Tina Turner Roger. Daltry as Tom. Don't Miss Tommy. The film your senses will never be the same again converts on your brother Mike White and I welcome you to the projection bill. The podcast with a difference. Never mind the weather when he listened to the projection booth e episodes last forever anyway. I'm joined today by Mr Schizophrenic. I'm free and also with us as MS heather drain. Hello Hello on this special episode of the projection booth. We are looking at Ken. Russell's Tommy released in nineteen seventy five. This is an interpretation of the WHO's rock opera of the same name which stars Roger Daltry as the Titular Tommy. After witnessing scene of his mother and her lover killing his father Tommy is rendered psychosomatically blind deaf and mute. He becomes a whiz at pinball starts a religion and is eventually brought low as a false prophet. If that wasn't spoiler e- enough we will be doing plenty more spoiling this film as we go along so you have been warned so skits. When was the first time we saw? Tommy what did you think I wanted to see it when it came out? I was Was that seventy five so it was about nine and I kept seeing the clips on TV. I think they should parts of the the acid queen scene of Tina Turner with her mouth. Quivering in that shot near the end. And then the The scene of an Margaret with the first the suds and then the beans and then the pinball wizard scene which that song was all over the radio so I I want to see this movie so bad again. I was nine. I didn't get to see it until probably nineteen eighty three when it was a believe it was a double feature of Tommy and pink. Floyd the wall at the cool Alternative Theater in my town. It really lived up to my my hopes and dreams and by that point I'd become a huge fan of the WHO album like when the movie first came out. I barely even heard of the WHO so I had a few years to really absorb that album in its entirety so getting to see the movie version of it was like yeah can't wait. How about you heather. Tommy I got to see Tommy Actually. Only part of it initially. This is in the early nineties. I was in seventh grade and it was on. Tbs ADDICOTT awfully. Oh my God tell him. He's on. I literally got it midway. To where like in Margaret and Roger. Daltry are in the car and she singing. Tommy can you hear either and my best friend at the time also was watching it at her house and the next day we were like. Did you see Tommy? And she's like yeah like. Was that as curl friend or his mom. 'cause she caught it midway to. Inbar grits only like a handful of years older than Roger Daltry but we but we loved it and obviously I went back to As as soon as I can catch get on TV. I taped all of it which is watch it over and over again. I absolutely fell in love with that thought it was completely fantastic or goal and of course that was the seed planted for my my lifelong crush on Oliver Reed. Good crush to have out the best. I was looking all over the Internet for the early commercial. The that this used to play as a commercial the whatever Broadway comes to Detroit kind of thing and it was all over Saturday morning cartoons in when you're kidding just basically repeat the commercials that you hear so that whole see me. Feel me touch me. Heal me thing. We used to sing that all the time we had no idea really what was from and then years and years later. I finally figured out that it was from this thing called Tommy and then finally saw the movie I think it was probably on sixteen. It might have been thirty five at a U. OF M. Screening and. Oh my God. It was the first time it wasn't the first time I had experienced Ken Russell but was the first time I've experienced Ken. Russell of this era and it just completely blew me away and it was one of those. Where I immediately got the soundtrack that movie soundtrack and just like played the shit out of those on Lp. Probably too much to the annoyance of my roommates at the time. But I didn't care because I just loved it so much. Do you ever like even if you're by yourself. Reenact some of the scenes because then so that we would do like we do like because of course play over rated. I do the whole life a doctor. I've found that little strutton everything. I made a bit a little too old for that though. I've definitely have spilled baked beans on myself before. Are you covered in baked beans right now? That right now just chocolate covered just certain particular areas Mike. Would you got a whole hog into the whole land of Tommy was your take? What was this your first introduction to the apple must've survey and then you went to the WHO like the original who album. Yeah I really. Wasn't that much into the. Who when I was younger. I really wasn't into a lot of different rock and roll stuff what I hear on the radio like when I was a teenager when w CSX ninety four point seven started up. I was like okay. This is cool because I listened to a lot of oldies when I was younger. I also listed a lot of classical and then started to get more into like the rock stuff is things went along but like I really never list the led Zeppelin or black sabbath or a lot of the. Who until I was in college so we even had like a little library in the dorm that I lived in where you could go and check out albums so I remember checking out the WHO sells next and a couple other who albums and those were my first exposures to those? I didn't grow up Mormon or anything but sometimes I feel like I was a little sheltered. I find with the WHO it's you know. Everybody has kind of their own pace like it took me a while as much as I love this movie. I always liked the WHO but that was like a slow burn ban for me like I instantly glommed onto bands like the kinks and the tubes but who right now are just completely love song but it took me a while like the the the movie this movie and this was my first Ken Russell as well which is very sacred this in the boyfriend. Weirdly enough I slugged. Seeing the boyfriend I started with crimes of passion. Yeah which I way too young. A layer of the white worm whore and then this one was probably like my fourth one. Wow Wow that's that's amazing As far as the Hulu I did have a cutout. Vhs Of the kids are alright. So I got a lot of that era of the WHO which I know has some older and newer. I mostly knew the WHO as being that band that they talked about on WTKK. Aarp in Cincinnati. Eleven kids lost their lives last night. Concert what are you talking about? Travis is kind of bad joke so I wish it were there. I didn't see anything. None of us did happen before the concert started. Mr Karlsson there was this large crowd outside the Coliseum. You've been waiting for hours and hours. It was very cold. Somebody inside decided to open some doors. There was some reserved seating mostly general admission as what they call festival seating asks what they call a stampede mass what hap- who didn't even know what it comes down to laugh. This show was. This was this your first Ken. Russellville think it was. I'm trying to think of any of his films I saw before it and I can't imagine I mean cinematic pretty sheltered until like the mid eighties so this was before I even really had a way to explore. I don't know movies except for a late night. Television the I don't think. Tv was playing a whole lot of of Ken. Stephens all placate the cable there for sure. Actually Mike. If it makes you feel better assault layer of the white worm away and I actually woke up in the middle of the sequence where there's that dream vision of the crucifixion. Others non speaking and the worms wrapped around I was like I literally thousands in health for all only. Okay all is well have either. Have you guys seen the stage? Play of Tommy. The Rock Opera. Yes I haven't yet came to Baltimore. I don't know when that was the nineties to thousands or something kind of went not expecting it to be very good and I was right but it was still just kind of fun to hear. The music played live and see this spectacle on a stage. I appreciate all the changes that they made to the musical having never seen it hearing about it like updating it from World War One World War Two just because that carried such a psychic scar for the British people I think even more than World War One because one was fought in a foreign land in World War Two brought the battle right to their doorstep. I mean that they were affected by the blitz must have had such a bigger impact and also that the makers of the this movie and the guys who if they weren't directly impacted they lived in that post World War coop Britain which took so long to recover from especially getting to see it as a younger person and realized very early on that how sheltered like as Americans kind of have been for more for a long time. Because it's like right early on this. Is something a detailed actually kind of forgotten until we watching this movie for the Eighteenth Time? Recently for this podcast is like early on. I mean you see like a dead kid in the ROB There is no holden bag with the and the violence. Of course we get wonderful like Ken. Russell Ian is a term is now touch and you haven't. You're not which I love. Is the show curl with a gas mask? All those showgirls there. So amazing yeah and the one that comes right up to the camera and basically looks right at us right which is That's the thing. There's so many cool moments of certain characters kind of breaking the fourth wall and I love this whole preamble the overture that we have before we even get the first lyric and that. I think it's a really you know it's a. It's a beautiful way of telling the story. It's all done with just music and the actors faces. There's no dialogue. There's no singing but getting that whole story of Tommy's mom and dad and I love that. I mean that it starts with that opening shot of Thomas Dad in front of the Sun and then that we have that beautiful book and at the end with Tommy and the exact same place. And it's like he's returning to that. I land that idyllic time that we see at the beginning with the MOM and dad there but just having that whole story of the father going off to war and then potentially burning up in a plane and just all of those things before we even get the first lyric song. Yeah I do Kinda wish. Though that they recorded the The whose original album and change things around it didn't slavishly. Try to to recreate it. But I do Kinda hate the way. The music sounds during that overture. Kinda wish. They didn't have those electric organ. Sounds so much there. I one point partly. I wish they would just use the track from the album. That's actually seems like a product of a like kind of being like a Robert Stick Wood Production. I kind of feel like any musical. He touched sorter arose. Attached to sort of has In the case of this movie it's it's good. He also was touched. The Sergeant Pepper which which is a movie i. I will hate watch every few years usually drunk now I actually I love the Laurente Kinda circular imagery to add especially like right down to like Tommy. Kron light going through the waterfall towards the movie. Were you know you see his parents but he possibly could have been conceived in that very water at its. There's something really beautiful just a whole birth death and rebirth cycle going on. It's just right off the gate like the primary colors like got the color us. I mean every I mean Ken Russell's use of imagery in everything Is I would say unforgettable. Like they're painters. That would kill the have Ken Russell like I and vision and just everything just hops. Yet is just such a gorgeous film and I really wanted to call out the costumes. The costumes are just so great. I mean even just a little touches on the costumes. I mean even when it comes like an marcus hearings and seeing that you'll have this really elaborate earrings through so much of it and then she'll have the little pinball earrings towards the end and just how we get that pinball in imagery throughout this whole movie over and over and over again and just all the circles and the shiny stuff and it just it is so captivating the I just so pleasurable to watch. And it's like one of those movies where it's hard for me to even start to look at the background just because I'm just captivated by whatever's moving in front of the camera. I love the all that and the design. I think about the scene with Eric Clapton. Who's really pretty wooden in that scene? But it's such a great scene and the whole it's not just Marilyn Monroe but it's like warhol's idea of Marilyn Monroe worked into this church. I'm not even really sure how to describe it but I'm sure we've all seen it. We know what I'm talking about but every time I re watching the film recently I kind of felt like for the first time it took a while to really kick in for me like I was kind of not as into it as I used to be until Roger daltry shows up on stage on screen. Which is that scene and suddenly from that moment on. It just doesn't stop and that scene is such a great way to start the whole rest of the movie from there for years. My relationship with this movie is kind of led to everything up to that point at but now but as I've gotten older of the years that I've just I love it all equally kind of as a collective I still love guys. Like the whole amazing journey sequence were after. Tommy has had his trauma and yeah they take him to an arcade and it. Just all of a sudden there's just like the surrealism imagery overload. You know you have like little Tommy with a black box on his head on a beach. That's another movie is. There's a repetition of waterfront imagery. I always think of the Irish is being cut like the great womb of the earth Saturday afternoon. Maybe it's like that you'd have into Monaro is not dog. Luckily nobody explodes in this survey but then you have dual screen were. It's like all of a sudden in Tommy's dance in the Crucifix Type Position. All of a sudden zooms in and there's a pinball and splits open and it's like the two Tommy's and I think the little boy that plays Tommy is amazing and I typically do not like kid actors. I most of them to me your way. Gamera people in the gambling community calls. Kenny's like anybody's A bad gamer film. There's always the Kenny's out. Jesus this kid needs to die and then you feel bad for saying that but the slow below Kim that plays Tommy. Here is just think he's just a nightly socred and you just really feel for him and of course we have the amazing Christmas sequence which might be the only time that he flinches the little kid because when Oliver Reed pulls off that Santa Claus Mask and he yells. Tommy can hear me. I think the Kid Might Flinch at that point. Otherwise he's completely stone faced after he loses eyesight hearing and an ability to speak. It's just he is so good at that. Yeah you were talking about the way that the pinball splits open and I love all of this twin twinning that we have throughout so much of this. I talked about the the. The mirrors are circular. We have so many mirrors in this become so central to it. But then you even have literal twins throughout at least like two sequences the birth of Tommy the potential rebirth of Tommy when he goes to see the acid queen and then you have Tommy himself being twinned in that area of the amazing journey spot in that also him their front of all of those mirrors and just being split into at least six Thomas at that point God. I Love a love that shot. Well in an amazing. There's like this fear or there's like let's say a hundred little tiny. Tom Is just all dancing. Just froggatt like crazy. Yeah no the twin imagery. It's fine because the nurses this is probably completely accidental for. They made me think of Sean Lawns Lips obliged like the two twin vampires and that but I think that's just because I love them every two so. It's a coincidence. The gift that I think can Russell gives you as a filmmaker in addition just making really compelling whatever kind cinema. Is that you could. We've all three of us have watched this film several multiple times over the years and I always find something new which is unreal. Given how many times. I've watched asleep when I was a teenager. I watched stuff rocky. Horror and pink flamingos way. Too many times I probably should be on therapy or something given how many times we watch and I still enjoy them but this time I can't say I find new something new. I still enjoy it with Tommy. There's always some new little detail where I'm like. Oh Wow I never noticed until watching these last few times the way that Frank Oliver Reed character and Mrs Walker. Does she ever have a name? I can't remember if Mrs Walker has a name. But they and Margaret character the way that their outfits get more and more posh as the years go on especially after Tommy has his whole pinball wizard break but some of those outfits like when frank comes in and he's got the the bullet belt and he's out of the has been out hunting and it's getting your money from just really curious how he's able to support this lavish lifestyle. Because I think that's before Tommy becomes the pinball wizard but just to see that and then also that frank becomes more and more passionate accenture so what he is giving the check to Jack. Nicholson that you wish. I knew our Kay. You just brought up something. But it's literally what my favorite things on the planet and has Oliver Reed in that sink. Coughing on the Chad and hand which are K. Little illuminating riot here I okay I will. Jack Nicholson actor. Great actor no argument by how supposed to believe by one of one of two complaints about this movie is how stem called. Fox like an Margaret married to Oliver Reed. A man amongst men is getting worse by Jack. Nicholson now now. Now we'll were already a couple and Colonel Knowledge commod. I just know at least. It wasn't art Garfunkel. Come on no ray Davey Sir David Warner absolutely. Jack Nicholson No. I wouldn't kick nineteen seventy-five Jack Out of bed. I get the hell out. Great actor we could be friends. But you got few WanNa meet a whole chicken. Sal BETWEEN MY KNEES. I would do it in an instant. I would tell him. No Sir no sir. I don't like it gives you brought up the eyesight for the blind seen a religion to the whose original wake album and of the version of that on the album versus diverse on. This movie are vastly different. It's also the only song that Pete Townsend didn't right right. It's like a sonny boy Williamson Song or something. Yeah I actually obviously smallish gotta very. I completely agree with you that Clapton being what that would be my second again very minor complaint. I'm not the biggest fan. I like cream but that's more because of Jack Baker or tampers Ginger Baker or fate had a kid be just go onto play sticks in happy days. Fokker especially because you have Clinton is waiting. It's like he took a bunch of quite lutes. Oh he was on a lot of stuff. He was having a lot of difficulties at the time. I believe always terrible. And especially when you see Arthur around. Who's like a fucking pagan caused emerging from the bowels of the earth like he is he is on he is the God of Hellfire is bringing his hellfire in the east as you see him. And you're just you're lots pumping again. You're like aw yes like I. In a perfect world I think they should have had arthur bouncing the whole SAR. Yeah that would have been really wicked if he had been able to do that. Especially because of that God of Hellfire image that he was already bringing to it. I like this whole thing that Russell had made the devils and was looking at doing necessarily a sequel but like an answer film called the Angels About False Religions. And it just kind of lined up a little bit. I know this is probably Apocryphal. Because you can't trust anybody on anything. But but him saying like his next project was going to be the angels that fell through and he was able to kind of revisit that idea false religion in this and I really love those scenes like with the worship of Maryland. And all of the people coming up and kissing your feet and that wonderful shot that up skirt Marilyn again with the mirror image that you have again. I think it's a circle that she's on and just that The whole idea of this false idol this relic that is going to cure you. Which is right out of I mean this I. I'm trying to remember. We used to run a commercial when I worked at a cable station about a miraculous icon. That you come in and touch and like be healed and stuff. It's exactly this Maryland Statue. And what's the difference between the two not a whole hell of a lot especially when we're talking about pop culture and the worship of celebrity and you know this is seventy five and still like how many movies or TV shows or whatever we get about Maryland? You know? There was a time there were just like there was like the Norma. Jean and there was another Maryland movie and it was just like okay. We get it. You know she's iconic but she's elevated even higher in this movie to this religious relic. I love this whole idea of him looking at false prophets and false religions through this lens because is just perfect for for this especially because you know I mentioned a little bit earlier like Tommy does have downfall. So it's not like he ascends to heaven at the end he basically. Everybody gets punished for him. Being this false prophet mentioned devils which is another one of my absolute favorite movies. Ever I think the case of Maryland and Tommy at one could even I think argues successfully that any sort of religious figure whether it's a saints whether it's you know whether it's Jesus whether it's whoever is there's always this thing of taking these figures and when you blow them up big you lose finer details like Marilyn Monroe was human? You know she was. She was a human being. But when you make somebody an icon at an idol. They lose all of their humanity and the innocent case of organized religion. I think you could argue people kind of lose sight of actual messages. I mean how many I don't WANNA get too too. But it's like how many people that are fundamentalist. Christians probably couldn't even quote an actual verse of Christ it out like they. Mainly now is the birth and a revelations. I've known people like that. You know it's like there's something about losing. I think when you when you do the ad make anything in idle you kind you lose any sir truth and Beauty Tara. If it wasn't an a Mel Gibson movie I don't count as being in the Bible. I I KNOW LETHAL WEAPON. Two is a gravy viewed. Yeah I love the use of the crosses and here as well and crosses that have the pinball on the top and I'd like the way that Russell mixes that imagery with poppy imagery and that the poppies become the crown of thorns for Tommy was when he's in the The acid queen seen. I also like this whole repetition of things that we have like the We'll hear from KIPP power later on. But in his book he makes a point about how everything is repeated in threes. This whole do you think it's alright blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. Do you think it's all right happens three times each time and in the movie itself there's like going to the Maryland thing going to see a doctor. I know going to see the acid queen. We're trying these cures three times. You know there's the trials of cousin curve cousin Kevin Ernie and then Tommy in the mirror so it's like each thing gets to be repeated three times it's almost like this magical number that this musical has oh. I love that. It's the Holy Trinity exactly on a completely. Different eligible. Redress does a teddy boy. Oh my God. It's not one of the great things I've ever witnessed in your life. When he's got his Green Code. I love and more and more I do. I mean he's got his green socks on. I love him even more that was neon green. Saw He's wearing floods is supposed to be wearing floods. He can wear whatever he wants. But it's wild. I love the acting. He gives us in that. And I don't know if it's a diameter shot or it's just a really wide angle lens. But when Tommy and his mom or singing in the bedroom and he's outside. And you just see frank face react to those things. That is just amazing to me. I love Olivarez face. It reads face in that scene. His facial reactions throughout so much in the movie just is a source of enjoyment. Or whether again that's the amazing journey but like when he's got little Tommy in front of the little light gun will guide like blowing down or shooting like enemy planes and he of course he's completely oblivious to light. You Know Mrs Walker's like PTSD about such things. But even like you could see his mouth. Go like Papa Papa Papa Papa Valley that will. He's looking at her doing it like he's being a brad and this is all over. This is frank the Tommy. This is her husband. Just like you know when you have a whole Wake Uncle Ernie sequencing. He's white walking up to confront. Ernie I mean he looks like a Ge man I love that and when he pulls out that lighter and lights at Net flame is so high in front of his face. I'm just like what the Hell's he gonNa do so we talk about Uncle Artie? If we must we must know. Yeah definitely a uncle. Ernie who I think. The first time I watched this I didn't realize how pervasive he is in the movie. I didn't realize that he was in the acid queen scene. And I'm always curious. What was his relationship to frank before the movie began. You know frank has had this whole life. He ends up somehow at this holiday camp. He seems to know his way around some of the seedier parts of London and he seems to know Ernie and they're good friends. That looks like so. I'm really curious. What that pre Tommy Franks is like? I figured Carney was his brother right. He's already at the camp isn't he? At the beginning when the when Mrs Walker goes to the camp the first time is no carney's there I'd never noticed in there. I could be thinking. I know these. He's playing the Oregon. I could be remembering this incorrectly but I just assumed he was. Frank's brother and frank just sorta like takes him under his wing all the time because he's kind of he's very troubled. That's an understatement. When I what I res- A kid in an I watched Tommy. I honestly a lot of the stuff about this character. Went completely over my head and I think part of it was because keep moon is adorable like he as a as a person was just so kind of kind of crazy but it really charming way I was also teenage girls so just like oh he's whimsical. I just really thought. Uncle Artie was Wednesday. Call and then. When I was that I watched the movie for a few years and I watched it again in college and then it hit me and I'm like Oh my God he's a pedophile or call. This is scandalous at Portani. Jeez is that you know that's the thing I feel like. There's nothing more dangerous than this role than the the teenage girls and their hormones. Snacks Awesome Naked I thought because Kevin played by Cray Paul Nicholas who really should have gone onto a bigger career like added off. He was another one who just his career. Just got. Kind of like gutted by the failure of sergeant pepper movie or but we'll Nicholas is great at a at the end where he's like no you know because he doesn't have emails to play with after. He's abused the shit out of Porto me. We were both like. Oh Poor Kevin and we were psychotic but I'll make was security. I guess thirteen. We'll both he and Keith Moon. Just play these roles to the hilt I mean. That's the one thing that I would say everybody in this movie. Nobody underplays the role. Even look at just except for clap. Those faces even the faces that Elton John. Makes at the beginning of the pinball wizard sequence. When he's like frowning at the camera I just love his face in that whole thing just how mad he gets out the whole scene and my God the that fucking outfit that he's wearing and those the fucking shoes Elton. John is wearing God it just blows my mind every single time. I'm just like how did they even get him to stand up in these sakes? My my husband chide has for years. He's a jerk about Harry's wanted to see Tommy on ice but only only have Elton John reprises role. There's like skates on the way to be so big. I read if we can have rick. Wakeman's you Marlin on is just sand. They ready to bring a whole icecapades. Think back as a trend that has been logged for. Gotten that I'll I love L. John and us and I am. I don't know if this is an unpopular opinion. I actually prefer his first pinball wizard of the news. I mean I love the. Who's but dollars something like Elton? Just got this kind of maintenace with it that I really really big. I loved that version. When it was on the radio and the soundtrack album I came out and and that was before I'd ever heard the WHO's version of it but I don't think I'd really it sense unless I was watching the film so like watching the film again recently reminded me of how much I loved when that song would come on the radio because they do so much more with it than the original version I mean they. They have a whole lot of extended instrumental sections. I guess so they can get the action in the film and everything but it it rocks. I don't tend to think of Elton. John's being the clearest and nunciature in the world see Benny and the jets but he enunciates better in that Song Than Pete Townsend does and I understand the lyrics lot more often John version. I like it more for that. Because there are certain things certain lyrics in the town's version where I'm just like what the fuck did you say that doesn't make any sense and then I would hear it in the Elton John Version be like? Oh okay. Yeah that makes them a lot more sense when you sing it that way. Okay okay I got it. That's funny you say. I had a similar piff. Unie with this movie and listening to the original hair album because the The Christmas Song for years I thought there was a line that Oliver Reed was singing was first thing and I don't know what I was listening to the news. Anything we also keep in mind. I'm not I'm not too proud to admit a folly like this is the same girl that for years. Thought David boy was singing. He looks like a beanbag to and Rabble rabble sound. We used to say for fame. My friend Mitch you say Jello for me Jello for you. I gotTA GET MY RECORD. Spat beautiful. I'm going to see that the next time I hear that's through the girl that stevie nicks singing Tampax back of the sponsorship. She could have made that deal extent. I feel a little bad for the listeners because normally I tried to go through these things in some sort of order but this is just too much fun just like saying I love this. I love this. You're talking about the Christmas seen the outfits in that scene and just how they're all from the same area of the color wheel and especially when the men and the women stand around Tommy and all the men have those shades of Brown and all the women had those shades orangish red just so good in my God and Margaret's outfits in this thing just killer and she is killer and I love that the way that Oliver Reed is just like trying to struggle through singing the stuff and then she's got that almost operatic style so when she's just belting those songs out it's like Holy Shit man she's already great but it just makes her look even better which is almost impossible to do but she is phenomenal when when she will hit those and you're just like man. She owns this role She signed sealed in deliver lie. She vocally but also just there's so many moments in this movie where she works just like she's just been through the ringer. A you know like this woman gave everything to this role like the definition of being trooper and it out and just got a career. I mean to think that like the same person who was in bye bye Birdie and kitten with a whip got to be in Tommy like I love that I believe she was nominated for an Oscar. Yes yeah she didn't win because all awards are fallacies Ginga Gerstle Castle. I ever to did you hear the story about her. Cutting her hand during the whole champagne seen no no what happened so she throws the bottle and it smashes the thing and she's like getting closer and closer to the TV and allegedly she. I mean this comes from both Ken Russell. And from an Margaret's I tend to believe it. She sliced her hand on the the glass from the TV and they ended up having to take her to the hospital. Kept going for a little while. And then she was like yeah. This is bad and took her to the hospital. She's covered with all that Shit. Just horrible and her hand. It's like that spot between it's like the Crotch for your hand the spot between your own your finger main fingering your thumb and choose just it was a real deep cut and it was just this pouring out blood and they're trying to stop it and she just starts to look more and more Pale and she could get to the hospital and they're just like hey. We really need you to see this person. Fascinated like wait no we. We have to wait until the orderly comes so they can wheel you into the. Or and other stuff. And there's just like what the Fuck Utah Games like. Caused all this Ruckus and then finally the guy shows up and like they say that he will do like ten feet before the doctor would Sierra. Yeah so she was really giving her all in this role know about that. That is a horrible place. You'RE GONNA get kind of I've I've done recommended but I didn't. I don't have the glamorous story of of lacerating rested elephant it for my art for Kinross. Large Shit right while you're covered and beans and chocolate and so I just have to say that people who weren't into the fetish of SP Louche were probably really turned on to that after this movie because it's just like I'm not into splash but my God am I into her in that form for the outfit just covering herself with Champagne and or the soap bubbles just like okay yeah I can. I can see the appeal to this coming up on. Tonight's show a man who lives his life as a dog. Poofs too much for Ben. Shires TO STOMACH MERYL FERNANDES GETS INTO THE SAUDIS SEX WORLD OF SPLASHING. I can officially say into and some women right an enormous wooden penis down a stream in Japan. But I do a dome. It's in Tokyo. Feeling Rotherham Ocean kind of like how like cats probably caused a whole generation of juries boy. It's because thinking back to like how like being a younger person seeing that seeing Aron. You know like your early adolescence in your hormonal. But you're still kind of like Shirley I'm really why and then she's like humping a pillow. It's a lot to take in. She does it with APLOMB and a bluish but also again like you talk about that repetition of imagery. It's like she's got she's in that great late pinball type of what those kind of chairs are called like a sphere chair you see them a lot like the sixties and Seventies. Oh Yeah I can picture one of those being in like sleeper without a problem. She's spinning around in that. Which looks like so much fun like that. That looks like and then. You've got the flower vase that literally looks like a pinball and just off there's so much there's so much great imagery and just yo having dislikes almost like satiny. Silk White Room just getting completely demolished in this. The these actionist it is. It's totally. Thank you wow minus the feces. Thank yes I kept wondering now. Kinross will always say oh. I shot a baked beans commercial when I was younger. And that's why. Put the baked beans in here and I always wondered if it was a a reference to the WHO sell out. That's what I figured it was but I don't know about the commercial. That's what he was saying again. I take a lot of what he has to say with a grain of salt because I think he's kind of a major troll a lot of times especially when he was later in life and he was just like. Yeah fuck it. I'll say whatever the fuck I want out hell. Yeah you can't when you're Ken Russell. You know you can do whatever you want. It's like the mandate that REX. Beans Jingle is amazing. I love the commercial like I love the the absurdity of having these light decadence like I don't know if it's like seventeenth century these just like dandies these you know these dandies of history getting very excited over Beethoven Lady of the manor with her tiny little for her little tiny delicate for At of course you know that leads to my favorite. Which is frank bursting through the room with Karan Arcade that Oliver Wreaths Mile. That's I know I keep saying girling. Forgive me I can. I help myself but is amazing. Lay I could. I could just watch that little that little seen She's like eating like eating chocolates. Yeah like what's wrong is okay. And when he takes the bond bond and I'm just like this doesn't feel like it was scripted. I love that little. Like how he takes it and then he takes it away from her and doesn't he end up eating. It totally takes about it. Yeah I love it and those things too when she is singing with her mouthful or she singing when she's putting on lipstick or eyeliner and she had sung it that way before and then has to do the actions on Phil. I'm just like Oh my God that's wonderful. I mean they must have had all this stuff playing so much before they started shooting at a frame of it. Now I notice that taste like the the little kind of drunken little laugh. It's like Like hat if you need to like that. Yeah forgive me. I swear it in saying I wasn't going to sing when she. Y'All on sings basically. Yeah it's so good. And what is the deal with? The hat like that is riveted me for decades like. She's got this weird at one point. That secrets a hat. That looks like are like at like an agent asked take pyramid. How would you describe that like a burial mound like a serpent man? It's something else. Yeah it's so just like what is happening here kind of reminds me of like Hubert for some reason. The bad guys from Q-bert I suck at that game. Yes so tell me to jump right off the fucking back. 'cause I can't tell spatial dimensions are. How much did you guys love? The Sally Simpson sequence. Brilliant is at. I think I wrote my notes. Now's the time for a bathroom break. It is sort of like a pulsing story for a little while. But I do love that. It tells so much story in just one song and visuals. I mean when she marries the rock musician from California. I've always loved that character. I wish that he could have a bigger role in the film. He is so good. I love when he's picking up those boots and slamming them down. So here's what an idiot I am. You know you have admitted like you know if you're going to admit to mishearing the lyrics while I misunderstood the credits hearing or reading that Arthur Brown was a priest and then forgiving that he was in the earlier scene or thinking he also played Reverend Simpson. Because I was like Oh yeah. He's a priest so for years. I thought the Reverend Simpson was Arthur Brown as well as the earlier character and yeah. I'm an idiot. Same same here. Same here. And I'm a huge fan of Haukeland so I should be like doubly ashamed. But imagine imagine if they had been Arthur Brown now would have been really cool that they have courses great. I think other can russell hallmark is to be. He's almost like the great directors of the silent era. Were every person he puts in. A film has a great and striking phase. It's not just always people. That are traditionally good-looking. There are people that are just religious. Your Eyes Johnston. They just nobody else. Looks like them. And it's so nice to see Ken. Russell's daughter playing Sally Simpson. Yeah I like this thing. It is very self contained thing but as I was watching it today I was just like. Okay yeah this doesn't really add to the story at all but okay whatever it works for me. It's a great song. That's one of my favorite songs on the album. And I've always loved that shot when she's getting during the wedding her father's just running back and forth between the peers just panic. I mean it's no teddy boy. Dance or bikers fighting dragging each other around by the end of the heels from their bicycle or any of that kind of stuff. But you know it's it's good. It's good the teddy boy. It's no Roger Daltry on a hang glider. Let's just put it that way. Who are running on green screen. Oh God good. Yeah the the amount of physical stunts in cardio that daltry headed for this survey is harrowing. He's carved out a fucking stone in this movie at a marble. He looks fantastic guy. He looks like Golden Guy and he's doing all this stuff like the hang glider like he's like perch precariously unlike a roof at some point He's on this tiny little castle tower. Think he's rock climbing therefore repress yet so to many rockstars doing that or normal humans for that matter. I think a lot of money in his wardrobe and they're just like here's a pair of Jeans. You don't need much more his to begin. Probably Yeah just bring your jeans Roger. That's all we need. No no shoes no shirt. But you'll still get service. Daltry is fantastic in this as well and for this being his first acting gig. I know he's gone onto a lot of acting of various quality over the years but he is wonderful in this. Of course he had had like a thousand rehearsals went with him being Tommy on stage but that he can pull it off on movies in a movie because we know that movie acting is not the same as you know acting in a rock opera and also that this isn't the exact same thing as the rock opera so he's having to do a lot of different stuff and I don't think there's any hang gliding in the rock opera. Now he is. He is just so compelling as Tom just because he's anybody can cast again. It's another like think magical thing of Russell I mean anybody can cassidy. Who's good looking? But can they bring a presence to it? Can they bring something of note and he definitely does and you continue even as his empire grocery quickly kind of you know very commercialist capitalistic. And kind of become a bloated thing. That's not what he probably originally intended it. You always like Tommy Lee. That's the thing because even you know because the main people kind of engineering and our people around him. He's like almost kind of via us. Maybe that's kind of part of his sin. I guess in this film hate us over but you know what I mean like. Yeah is that he. He is at a time to a but you always know the thing. You always kind of have sympathy for him at like him. Worry about once things. Start getting real ugly. I'm always curious how much Mrs Walker who I found. Her real name is Nora or her character's name is Nora that how much nora has to do with the transformation at the end of Tommy's holiday camp into this whole thing because you we see her on TV and it's basically very much televangelists type of thing with her getting out there and talking about her son. And just how he will change your life and all of this stuff obviously. It's much more easy to see it with Frank. Especially he gets that moment of panic. When Tommy's just like you know. Hey I need you to build an extension spare no expense. And he gets that. Look a panic frigates. Look a panic when Thomas spare no expense and then it kind of dawned on him like wait a second. I can turn this into a money making thing and then that same scene. I was talking about with Nora singing about coming to Tommy's how he turns that map and he's got all those little cross pins with the pinball's on and just sees all of that and starts to realize money making thing this is and how lucrative this whole gimmick is going to be for them. What they want S- not cheap a pity. Who Am I to say no to their dreams or was I know like mini yet? Tommy's extension of spare no expense and then like alzon FRAC- turns into like he gets that grant she's like serving some grinch stole Christmas Real News. Yeah you can see the corners of his mouth spin. But you're thinking about the story. Is You know I think in the hands of somebody other than the WHO or Ken Russell Yet? Most people kind of always want like a clearer villain a clear villain figure right and and Tommy even though like they're people that villainous things I don't believe you frank or an aura as the as pure village I think they love Tommy and they try to do right but the very human and they're very flawed which I think most of us anybody who has like dysfunctional family members. That you love by its dysfunctional. Like I think you can kind of relate to I like that. They're being punished for that. Sin Of killing Tommy's father that that whole line of the sightless eyes young reflecting back to them the sin that they've that they've done this murder that they did in that they're punished by having him as this living reminder of this thing this horrible horrible murder that they committed that is great to me like he is this living symbol for them every single time they see their own kid or her own kid that they are reminded of this awful thing that they did and it's so then things are transformed when he has his awakening and it just becomes this whole blossom of like okay great now we can be rich and we can do this but yet they all get taken down again at the end which. I'm really grateful for because they are at the end of the day. They are murderers and I did. I think it's very smart. That they make it frank and Nora killing the father rather than it being the father and Nora killing frank. You know that the that the make that change from the musical from the the the Rock Opera to this movie and so that they and it's like it's been a while since I've heard my freud but it's like Tommy seeing the death of his father. I mean it's it's very much like he's kind of winning that battle but then he's immediately has this other rival with frank and then the way that they sing and make him remember our. I'm remembering and block everything out. It's the way that they punish him is is really kind of horrific. I mean it's basically like they make him victim of like locked into syndrome. They turn them into Robert. Deniro from awakenings. Where's my awakenings fans out? There's come on. I never saw that movie. Sorry Jeeze I I saw. We're no angels. I was a kid. Does that count as that? Yeah that's the exact same movie. Thank you my. I didn't really think about like that. But that's a cool way to purchase the whole sins of the father. Said I guess. In this case it sends up a set father and mother the innocent suffering thanks to adults. There's also kind of a parable. I think also how I think. Kids of abuse retreated as sometimes still are treated where it's just like it didn't happen and you know back then especially that spin. A lot of families treated you know. We don't talk about that but also just be obviously. There's a huge danger to doing that. Because it's you know you repress you repress something that traumatic of you know you're gonNA suffer for annual Tommy Tommy definitely US interesting. How that all plays into Pete Townsend worries like? I think something happened to me when I was a kid. I'm not sure what it was but I think there's something in there and this is me saying this not Pete Townsend. I think there's something in there. That's kind of cousin. Kevin kind of Ankle Ernie that it probably happened to him and that he's using his art work. Through some of these things I found a very compelling thing I mean townsend definitely has issues but that he is trying to use his own artwork to work through these things I admire. I don't know much about him but as I was watching the film recently I just kept thinking about all the similarities between that and pink floyd the wall which saw the two is for the first time at the same time. It's almost like there can't be a British rock musical. That doesn't have a father that was killed in the war. And of course in this case he wasn't killed he was just sort of missing for a while. Yeah I wondered when you said that you watch those two back to back. It's like trying to remember what happens. Pink's father does he come back or is he dead. Now I think he's he's dead but there's a lot of the same year that the if I remember I'd have to go back and rewatch the wall but I feel like that. Poppy thing is in both films. So I guess that's like a British thing that little American me isn't familiar with but it pops up in these films and must have really been something I think it'll has do with remembrance. Stay which is maybe there and I always get these screwed up because Memorial Day is for one group of people versus veteran stays for another group. I think veterans are the ones that are still living memorial day is for the people who have passed so it might be related to their their Memorial Day. Which is they call. Remembrance Day Remembrance Day is a day of reflection he was originally introduced just after the first World War at that time it was called Armistice Day in commemoration of the armistice on the eleventh of November nineteen eighty. Actually speaking of Tommy's father I feel I'd be remiss if I if I put out that. It's the Great Robert Powell who I always love seeing an pop up in an