20 Episode results for "Roeder"

How to Customize VoiceOver Gestures on iOS

AppleVis Podcast

06:27 min | 11 months ago

How to Customize VoiceOver Gestures on iOS

"What do the Apple. It's PODCAST hollow everybody. My name is Thomas Donga. I'll go by in the name of anonymous in this podcast. I'm going to show you how to customize voiceover gestures in I o s yes so if you want onto customize voiceover gestures it is simple to do so if you don't like the voiceover gestures now for example. If you don't like the three fingers Quad God tap to copy because it's cumbersome right. It's really hard to do or one of my favorite is the rotor gesture. Sometimes that's difficult because yes I'm not really good with two fingers and turn it like a combination that can be difficult and not only that but for people that might find certain gestures more difficult difficult than others. You are now able to change this so let me show you how to do this. Let's go into settings savings and from here when a double tap settings and then we're going to all the way down into to accessibility accessibility but one finger double tap accessibility features help you customize your iphone for your individual needs. WE'RE GONNA go to voiceover mission had voiceover on but WTAM voiceover on and we're GONNA go down the man's commands button double tap alchemists button to the right touch customers and we want to go in here so let's tap that tap one finger heading all right now. These are all the gestures that you can modify now not everything you would think would be in here. Most of the gestures are in here so let's do a few here. I'm GONNA show you some of the things and it should sound familiar. One single top speed him dimmed one hundred double. Stop activate dimmed. That's right so tap it. We'll talk double tap open one finger triple top secondary activate one finger quadruple top. There's nothing there you're so you're going to sign something there tap two fingers heading okay so these are two fingers tap items. There are by head here to finger single top titles speech Cathedra double tap magic top two-finger triple top show item chooser so you get the legit idea behind this so I was thinking now of course any of these already have a command yes us just double tap that and go in and you will pick an action that you want to sign to that particular gesture. Mr Now in this example. I'm going to use a two finger swipe to the left and right because currently there are no gesture tied to this. Let's go find the two finger swipe to the left and right two fingers heading so here's the swiped fingers. This means two fingers in all sorts of directions. Let's see what we have. Bring in this area. Two fingers left on their studio left. There's nothing assigned to that. Two fingers like right. Nothing decided that to finger swipe up read from top that makes sense to fingers down. We'd all okay so obviously. We don't want to change that but I'm GonNa change the left right. Let's go back to the left here to finger swipe up. Two fingers like right to finger swipe left now. We're going to double tap this cancel but as you swipe to the right you're going to hear all the different actions actions. You can tie this particular gesture to so. Let's go to the right commands. Heading search search field direction heading activate secondary activate magic top US kate before long grass basic navigation heading the previous can move the next item. I I moved to item above white blow and you can get the idea there tons of stuff in here rotor heading with rotor and that's exactly where I want to stop at because I want to sign to the rotor. Let's go to the right here. Previous Roeder a HA- she'll to finger swipe to the left. I'm going to sign nine. The previous roader supposed to finger double tap here. Can you now assigned to it. Let's go see with his shows that up now selected to finger swipe left previous voter here is now been selected and there's a new Jewish too. This is swiped to the left to go to the previous rotor so let's go to the next one here. Two fingers like right to the right and double tap this cancel button now. I'm going to go down back to the rotor headings roller heading here. We are back to rotor. Let's go to the next item. PBS ODOR NEXT THE NEXT Rotor. That's the one I want to warn finger. Double Tap commands back button and it should be size. Take a look collected two fingers like right next rotor so they're signed so let's try it. I'm going to do to finger swipe left volume speaking rate words look that now due to finger Swipe Tudor right speaking rate volume headings. Oh wow how cool is now. I want to show you one thing. If for some reason you want to get rid of that you don't want the to be assigned to anything. You have a change of heart. Just go back to the same rotor. Same gesture selected two fingers like right next rotor. Do a one finger tap like you're GONNA sign an action to or command cancel but what I do I go to the very bottom forefinger tap towards the bottom verticals gold bar eleven pages one hundred now swipe to the left button and you have the remote button so double tap. It removes was it. Let's go see selected two fingers like right and you could hear it has been removed so that gesture no longer exists be sure to check check out all the action and commands there are tons of different things you can assigned to his gesture and you can also buy headings by the gestures are plenty of the different types of gestures. You can use and change my name. Is Tom. ASTON-VILLA I also go by the anonymous until next time goodbye. 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20190805

Brethren of the Lord Jesus Christ

12:05 min | 1 year ago

20190805

"Hello I'm live today and a lot of talk about that experience the ballistic <unk> nominal because when I use the word of God to a nominal they go ballistic you know when you speak the word of God to <hes> <hes> a born again Christian that that has gone on the road you know so so she or he has <hes> you know had some real. God work done. At least maybe not real God worked on that might be too much but let's say someone that has had some some experience with Lord Jesus Christ with God being drone owned by God. You know because you know not really that is that is someone who is the week you see who is as part of the the the sheet you know abroad road as a sheep that has strayed from the ball and on up the creek and and has basically gone the broad wrote so it's broder that's broader someone who doesn't assume scenario straight off the these kind of people if you speak to abroad. Roeder the the truth that they can address next with them even though they won't <hes> like you know they still wrestles last night with him but if you speak the truth to a nominal Christian Bagel ballistic at you like this they go totally ballistic mystic and the fact that happened to me when I was at <hes> quite <hes> not too far. I is all about that. I said this that <hes> if you have a church a congregation and as one pastor in that congregation then that pastor pastor a pastor is a woman then that pastor is not put there by God. She's put there by herself or by <hes> some man who doesn't know what he's doing. That's just a fact uh-huh and this this guy went ballistic at me you and <hes> you know he was told totally ballistic that was when I talked about what happens spiritually. When you have a congregation that goes under a female pastor you know and <hes> he said while I'm in thought about that what I have thought about that I said and then he went ballistic because he em they they are not born this? This is the nominal Christians the nominal Christian goes ballistic. Ah when the truth is spoken and the truth is obviously that there are they're not put it thereby God. We know that there are people who have been given the position of pastor in <hes> you know that our fee made say that they are one over the place churches in many of these <hes> judge that only have passed their female pastor today but that doesn't mean that that that's okay just because it's not all over the place not just means that you know the trying to bring in just about ninety antichrist's yes a bell is just someone who is not born again a woman oh and <hes> that that's exactly what what they have often yes bells you know at but sometimes. I I also yeah so I guess about antichrist's nominal Christians who who are in positions of pastor <hes> <hes> you know you know so so that's what I've experienced the the ballistic nominal the experienced on the you know they get Reichen. You're facing a totally mad when you say the word of God because they've they've they've never they don't have low Jesus Christ in them they they they don't have the Holy Ghost in them. They <hes> the nominal Domino Christie's then not even broiled rovers. They were not even part of the Ecclesia. They will soar or whatever you know and the goats cannot become sheep 'cause they were always go there. The tears you see so there are terrorists in the churches and these are the nominal Christians they're. They're not part of the wheat. They were never they never had a choice as long to get saved in first place. So there are tears. I passing the churches and <hes> so yeah. Wheaton tears you know the we are the the Ecclesia. Please yeah the the ones who can become the charge and see things and then and you have as we have the week and the tears and the tears they can become <hes> <hes> bone again what happens if air goes to charge start to adopt a religion of Jesus. You know that Jesus Christ go to Serbia is that they update their <hes> con that condemnation and get to a Ramon on prison called Hal in instead of death through so that's what happens they they get to how Komo and Hal is a very warm place and it's not pleasant in Ohio power. The rich man that you lost us was <hes> begging for just drop of water you know instead of being so the week on the task the the wheat are set their. God and the Tares are set thereby state than being safe in children and that's the tears Saito vacation cannot come to God. They've never destined the choice to come to God so when you oh go into the churches these tear social goals you know but let's talk about the week the weeds then which is also called that she <unk> at while nor. I don't know if the sheep really are the week because the sheep the sheep deep actually are probably the the narrow Roeder's as we you see you have the wheat these are the Ecclesia or those who can get hit save and God will come to them at some point in their life and then they can be drawn and goals at and <hes> if they take the narrow in straight gate not the brewer growth that leads to destruction so that we can both be broaders and narrow Roeder's and and mostly in judges today there are tears and broad roads because the narrow roads will have the holy ghost it will in dwell so that will it'll be that that will be you will will be they will feel it in all that is something different with this person so so you have the elite. Gab The broad rovers and the narrowed and and I think it is the narrow does that order sheep because they hear his voice and they will not for a bottle of a higher link they follow you know the full shepherd they will follow all of the the Real Shepherd Releases Christ so I think actually that <hes> I wonder why yeah I think the Broder are sheep's that have gone up the creek. He shape that are going to. I don't think you could say that their goats though you know I think they all sheep that I've gone up the creek due and <hes> actually <hes> because so that they they have they have lost only goes they run out of oil like the virgin so run out of oil and then they have actually we started to to be they have been overcome by the by the standard crisis system the gray monster that's why the gray monster contains both <hes> black and white you see it's great because <hes> <music> so that the broad. Roeder's they <hes> yeah they they have run out of oil. These are the five virgins that have run out of oil. What happens to them. He said they are fooled. By the Anti Christ. The saints are not the antichrist's I mean the saints are not the owners obviously the saints Dander crass but it says somewhere in the Bible that he would fool if it were possible even the saints the Saints are the narrow Roeder's in you know they are the son so oh God just like Jesus Christ the family of God so the same they <hes> they <hes> they are the narrow road and they are not fooled by antichrist's so that's how it is so so so what happens when you tell the truth to an into a normal person is they go ballistic like this. They go crazy because you know when you tell the Word of God to for them they go totally ballistic because they have no they have had no experience of God whatsoever so so you know they are. They are the tears for them. Ah God is a a ritual in this report is something they've learned to speak in. All it does nothing to do with a UH with some internal. God Work Knowing Tunnel. God work has been done in them so I'm I'm going to end now so minerva remember Jesus Christ the same yesterday today as as tomorrow you know Andam God bless the body of Christ in Hebrew by for now.

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Heartland Newsfeed Radio Network

5:03:00 hr | 1 year ago

Heartland Newsfeed Radio Network

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I wanna be a bench on a forest trail when i grow up. I don't wanna be a piece of garbage and if you recycle me i won't be give your garbage abridge another life recycle learn how at i want to be recycled dot org brought to you by keep america beautiful and the ad council an o._a. Chevy of economics rolled into the shop this week with a whopping three hundred and fifteen thousand miles the vehicles desperately need an oil change it was loaded with luggage in gear and the parents were taking your daughter's order school college almost head to be put on hold though the radiator developed a small league that required immediate repair time was definitely not on our side has classes acids story the next day so we decided to use case casey poor in solution designed to stop leaks and help prevent future leaks older sealers you sodium silicate locate which has the tendency to clog the system casey. Oh features ceramic technology. That's designed to repair the leak without clogging. We let the vehicle cool for the model of k a._c._l. In the cooling system topped off the antifreeze coolant and installed a new pressure cap happy to report the leak was gone and our young friend did not miss a class casal debatable at fine retailers everywhere like a reilly auto parts. Don't just seal it case the elit you're listening to new body like his car clinic and now back to body like as cochlear and your host and welcome back to the segment bobby like his car clinic. <hes> your calls important that we communicate and i can help you you know and i don't have my hand in your pocket. Yeah i mean i do promote products that we use in our shop so whenever you hear me talk about a product and it may be a sponsor a ah partner or not but just know that i've aren't tested that product and i use that product in our service shop so when you hear what i say on the air you can take it to the bank and and that's what's really important triple eight triple eight two two seven twenty five forty six. We're talking tracy chou tracy. I have a question for you you after you. After it was discovered that the system had been contaminated has every component opponent been replaced and when i say component i'm talking about <hes> the rear calipers are cylinders. The front calipers the brake hoses and the master cylinder and i'm afraid you have to replace a._b._s. Unit too so what units have been replaced since the contamination occurred everything except the a._b._s. unit and the rear calipers all the hoses and the <hes> proportioning valve master cylinder as far as i know not the roeder's well i'm we only we only want to address the what's <hes> what has rubber rubber in it and then rubber would be seals and the a._b._s. unit has seals <hes> the <hes> <hes> well well the whole system the hoses and the calipers and and all of the seals inside so if if you get if you still have and you do that's why you call if you still have break and let's go back to the root of the problem you stated early on in addition to the contamination of the brake fluid that the front brakes were dragging that correct yes okay and how do you know that because the heat well it melted off both of my hubcaps at first and and then after the adjustments i've been able to drive it some but it still locks up brooke and drive it in reverse the other day but not forward in cal- cooled down. Well well well well. You still have a component that has not been replaced then. You're gonna have to replace it every component and trace it. Let me give you a brief overview of how it works and so that you'll know how to test it if if if when you when you press on the brake pedal you it's just like pressing the syringe to put the medical medicine in your arm. You're pushing a piston that pushes fluid out right <hes> when you let all and and so that that fluid goes all the brakes front and career through the a._b._s. and and all the systems and uses the force of about which you exert on the pedal when you you let off the pedal there no return springs there is on the brake pedal but the rest of the system doesn't use return springs now. No that's not true for drum brakes but let's forget about drum brakes. Let's just talk about the the front disc brakes those <hes> those pistons inside the caliber don't have any method to return and pull them back away from the rotor however so so they ride directly on the rotor full-time but because there's no pressure they're touching the rotor but not really stopping the rotor now the nascar guys go step further to make sure that there's no drag whatsoever before they go out to <hes> lap to you too to qualify lap. They will take a tool and push the brake pads away from the rotor tiller so they're not even touching. They're just kind of loosen in trapped in within their fixture. There's zero drag into because any car that you have disgraced if you jack it up and spun the front wheel with your hand and not a front wheel drive. I'm talking about a a rear-drive car where you have nothing to keep the wheels wheel from turning just on a bearing so if you spend the front wheel of a car with disc brakes i it will term. It won't spend freely because the patra touching and so if you had a way to pull those back now <hes> g._m. Uses square o-rings in there well. I don't know other companies will but g._m. With on the first you come out with square rings seals in the caliber so that the pressure sure would push the seal up in contorts the seal square and then when you let off the break the seal ever so slightly which try to straighten in back out because it was being pushed sideways because it was square not a not a not a perfect circle and that that allowed better gas gas mileage. That's what that was four to try to pull that caliber and that pad back air so slightly and and ever so slightly would be the thickness of two two newspapers at four thousand 'cause i if a bullet goes by your head and it and it makes you about four thousand it doesn't hurt you. I mean four thousand blessing. I think if you stop if someone if you crashed his car and you and you stop four thousand you're i mean you kissed the car but you didn't touch it. You know you know what i'm saying. So in your case you have a fluid that you press the brake pedal through the master cylinder. That is is being forced out. Unfortunately it can't get back because of the rubber is swelled by the petroleum product and and doesn't fit within its piston and the caliber and you're forcing it out but you don't have any process car has no process by which the push it back show if you here's what here's how you diagnosed you not you but here's how you have a shop diagnosed you make make the car lockup which you can do about driving the car okay and then you go to the wheel that knows locking up which would be the front wheel and you lucien the brake line well now. It doesn't make any difference if there's any seals because you've opened the system you cut an artery and so whatever pressure is there to hold the brake pad. It's it's relieved so you cut the bright line or illusion a bright line on the caliber and if there's fluid comes out you'll know that that that whatever's on the other side of that it's causing the problem but if you lose if you loosen the bright line and there's no pressure but you still can't turn wheel you know what's the caliber because there's no influence from the pressure because you've got the you got disconnected. You understand what i'm trying to say there. Okay all right so so you know it's just like washing your car in the driveway and you turn the hose on when you've got a spray nozzle and then your then you let off the spray nozzle title well. You couldn't disconnect the pipe from the house even if you turned the spigot off at the house because there's pressure in the hose so you have to turn the water off then press the hose and let the pressure bleed off and then you can disconnect from the house otherwise you get water in your face and i've done. I don't know you were saying about with this test. After you make the brakes lock up then you <hes> loosen the brake line at the caliber <hes> and you should hear a relief well if you will if you wheel if the brake problem is on the driver's side if its own the hose or the booster you're not booster or the a._b._s. Are the master cylinder if it's upstream but if but if the piston is sticking in the bore and and you loosen the break. I'm glad you're with me and you loosen the bright line. You've taken away all the pressure that is forcing them to break piston the caliber galloper piston out and if you still can't turn the wheel you know it's inside the caliber 'cause you'd literally disconnected the padraic pressure from the the car. You got me now to try to turn the steering. We all know the tire. I'm glad you estimate the in other orch. We're we're gonna. We're gonna cause a problem. We know that the front wheel is sticking so then we pull it into a garage with jacquard up we try to spend the front wheel and ooh spin it will you can force it but that's why it's getting hot because it's dragging so we disconnected that caliber from from the hose and the wheel freed up we would know that the problem was on the hose side and the hose is a car side but if we disconnected the hose and the wheel still would not turn that we know it's within the caliber and the caliber has to be replaced. You're not me okay so caliber. Yes if if it won't spin and you've got the host disconnected from the caliber it is a caliber caused the caliber doesn't have the ability not to apply pressure unless you've got influence from the driver but you got it then you have the driver disconnected because because you have that hose disconnected in huila goal of still locked up wheel. The wheel doesn't even know what's on the car nail it you you you. You got me yes and that tests to work on both sides because it's outside well. They're locking out well. You will work on both sides but you don't care because all you care about is pick the one that's the hottest it's the hardest turn and disconnect that line and if the wheel still hard to turn you know it's the caliber but i i thought you said you'd replace the caliber. They were supposed to ban well. I don't understand supposed to have been. Don't you have a receipt for what was put on. The car is i've had it to four different. Oh getting different. Oh okay gosh. I wish i could send you a match. I wish i i wish i could send you in missouri. Well i'll tell you. I wish i could send you a magic switch but here here's what what what to do you you. You four shops really really this is common you know shop and joel but okay well all right so so here's here's what i want you to. I want you to which of the three shops that you've been to. <hes> seems to be the easiest and best to work with that that that helps you to help. You got one that does help me but your expertise may be what they're needing. Maybe they just start missing something. I believe that shop okay so here's what you then. You're going to teach this shop and this is gonna be fun for you because i what i'm telling you i is a physical fact. You're going to teach that shop what they don't know so you. You're gonna call them and tell them that you that you set up an appointment and tell them you're going to drive your car until the brakes lockup. You're going to bring in and you want them to be immediately. Ready immediately ready to jack the car up and and cut to hose are disconnect the hose ooh unscrew it. I don't care you do that okay. Hey thanks for calling in the best of luck calling me back if you need me folks amber malcolm is a star are with racing wives and well. She's on the phone when i come back. You're gonna hear really great about nascar. A two thousand fifteen four escape recently came into the shop one hundred twenty thousand thousand miles and going strong but it was starting to hesitate and the customer also complained of declining fuel economy. This two liter turbocharged engine is g._d._i. Or gas direct act injection and special maintenance is needed in certain areas particularly the fuel system. We suspected carbon buildup and sure enough using a boris go through the smart plughole whole there was definite evidence of carbon buildup g._d._i. Engines are different in the way they inject fuel and it can create some issues would repair and maintenance. That's why it's important to us. Products rated for g._t._i. Like barons four step professional air and fuel management maintenance kit. Each step of the process is designed who g._d. Engines in in mind we usually kit and after two weeks on the road the cars performing noticeably better and mpg has improved a bit learn more about mary men's four step professional the air and fuel management maintenance get and other great products at berryman products dot com. You're listening to bobby like his car clinic <music> and now back to body and your host bobby likes and welcome back it to bobby then we'll take your car questions soon so call triple eight car clinic on the car clinic hotline with us now's amer balcon the fast and furious new girl all in the racing world and aspiring nascar driver ambers. One of the stars of c._m._t.'s new series racing wives racing wives follows the lives of nascar's most prominent wives and women the new series follows the personal and professional lives of driver amber malkin samantha bush ashley bush whitney war dylan and others in the lake norman area of north carolina where the who's who of star car racing lille's racing wives wives offers a glimpse into the sport watched by millions each week but focuses on relatable issues such as family friendship careers and work balance. Amber malcolm is from winnipeg canada. She started racing folks. When she was ten years old. Mostly all dirt track she joined the cast of racing wives as as an opportunity to share her story. She doesn't come from money and she is a canadian woman. In a very american male centric sport through hard work and dedication. She hoped to fulfill her dream of becoming a professional nascar driver and with it amber. I want to welcome you to bobby like his car clinic bobby. You think you're more than welcome excited to have you as a guest auto racing's pretty much in your blood share with our car clinic listeners and viewers your family's history in the sport and when you knew you wanted to be a part of it absolutely i grew up in dirt track racing my grandfather race sprint cars. My dad's still braces to this day hearing since dirt late model uncle my cousins race and i grew up at the right track <hes> my parents met at the racetrack. I was at the track since i've been in my mom valley so it really is in my blood and it's all i know the more that i was at the track more. I got to see everything of it. The more i wanted to raise though at ten years old i after years of begging my dad finally said okay. If you wanna do this then you gotta do on your own and that means working on the car yourself and buying hang it to so definitely didn't have the easy route but it's been great because it's taught me a lot of skills and <hes> things that i would have never known otherwise though started in go karts needs to mini sprint and sprint cars on dirt and a few years ago transition to the pavement world and now erin leading the amber. You're a canadian woman breaking into a very american and very male dominated sport. How's that good experience been for you so far definitely impact to overcome a lot of adversity being canadian and a male dominant americans floridian female in a male dominated sport. You had to get a visa just to be able to come to the u._s. to pursue my dream and start being a female. I've always been female so i don't really know anything difference john for me. When i got helmet on the car doesn't know my gender and i i'm a driver. That's it and i want to win as bad as the other drivers do juices. This is aggressive. I'm driver driver. The car doesn't know gender and i just wanna win right. That's a perfect mindset. You said that your goal. It's the drive for kyle busch motorsports so tell our car clinton listeners viewers where you stand in reaching that goal you think you're going to be joining the cow busch motor sports family we saw the show actually goes into our story of samantha and i looking for sponsors to raise for kyle busch motorsports. Obviously i have to talk to cows while to see if i'm a good fit for it. He expects very very talented. Racecar drivers and he's not gonna let me in the car. It must be my talents as well. Uh so we'll see that in the show and whether i race for the manatt you'll have to watch out folks. Were talking with amber balcon. One of the stars of racing wives so amber now. You're part of the new show. Racing wives on c._m._t. Fill our carpet listeners viewers in when racing wives airs ears and then what made you want to be part of this show. The racing wives airs every day at nine central on a._m._c. and what really made me wants to be a part of this show is because i thought it was such a great platform to me to get to share my story of what it takes to be a race car driver and the different adversities and struggles that one has to goes through you know with ray thing people think if you win races you can get the cup series when in actuality it's not the case that it's a very financially actually driven sport and so yeah i need financial backing and the help of sponsors to be able to move up to the next level though showing those different struggles and <hes> hopefully this exposure and being on the different platform will help attract sponsors and help attract other companies to one apart with me and helped me move up the ranks of nascar. No no doubt you have a passion for your sport and you certainly sound like you have the ability now that you've had a taste of reality tv. How has that experience been for you. It's definitely taught me a lot. That's for sure it teaches you tuck skin. You know there's a lot of is on you for people to judge and have opinions of you and for me. It's really you just knowing myself and staying true to myself and being authentic and <hes> i came down here to drive race cars and that's always been focused and will always be talk and so i think as long as i say on track and they in my lane and continue to work hard than everything else hopefully will fall into place. Will i want to be the first i congratulate you on breaking through the crowd and and and i mean that literally and i wanna thank you for joining us bobby like his car getting infosys amber balcon. You'll be hearing more about this young lady. One of the stars of racing wives amber. Thank you so much good luck. You know break a leg as they say but of course outrun everybody else it'd be the first of the finish line amber balcon star of racing wives. Thanks again for joining us on bobby like his car clinic today. Thank bobby appreciate you having me on yes. You don't break folks. She'll play yeah like us. I talked to like the carpet and he said breaking a leg so i wrote l._a. Now folks. Let me tell you this really interesting and i don't know if you were watching for those of you and watch bobby live <hes> but <hes> we had some trump's e._m._t. We had <hes> some bureau <hes> from the the show you know like a like a little quick <hes> <hes> overview of of the new program and she doesn't she looks like a model la think <hes> fabio and you folks that watch bobby live <hes> the the bottom line is i think it's a great idea racing wives and and of course she she's one of the stars and she's a loves racing jump from a racing family so it's it's going to be really interesting to see <hes> how the show does and how <hes> she does. That's premier network and john is our contact there and occasionally he'll call and say you know i have someone that would like to call in your show and and to get recognition and of course they're trying to promote that series and i don't think it needs much promotion because it's going to be really really interesting to see how that pans out. I said earlier oh. I'm sorry aaa car clinic hannah will take your calls at triple eight two two seven twenty five forty six bobby like his car clinic is brought to you in apart today by the car care council our partners. It's back to school time. Yes really the perfect opportunity for drivers to make sure the vehicles are safe in rhode ready and here's what you do you visit car care dot org for a number of fantastic tools including tips and service schedules videos and more go to car keira dot org and you'll see what you should be doing to make sure your car's kids safe in rhode riddy. That's pretty cool. Kids safe in rhode. Ready is such a thing as kids safe. Well depending on how you look at what is kip say car care guys. You know kids safe well. It means that it's safe for the kids but another meeting the car say from the kids. Oh gosh so that's right. Hey i have broken a lot of cars in my life and i'm not talking about my professional career of repairing a love broken my share there as well but i've broken a lot of racy engines in the <hes> in the seventies we ran a rear engine dragster and i built a half stroger him before twenty-six and had five hundred cubic inches and <hes> i i built that same iteration <hes> with modifications of course forty times over appeared of <hes> i'd save three years forty different iterations and of course that's what happens when you're trying to push an engine to limit and and then whatever the weakest part is weakest link it breaks and speaking of the weakest link remember the head of television. Show the weakest link. I i never did like that program but was the host is the one i never did care for. Yeah you laugh so obviously you've seen it. Who was that. I remember her name. She was saying goodbye. She say what you said. You're the weakest link goodbye yeah goodbye okay so so we'll we'll we won't we'll never say that to caller goodbye we have had we have had callers at call yeah well. I've bob malia my car's doing yada yada yada and so far put a sensor and a throttle body gasket and hose and new plugs or what have you still got the problem. I said well what's sound like wes annoys rear end. Excuse me you've been under the hood in the noise in the differential well well yeah but i just thought i'd start start there and i'm having fun here but that's that's not too far from just like just like the the the tracey called with had the the petroleum product that was added her first mistake with whoever put that fluid in there and then if you say she had four shops and you had to four shops no no i went to an independent a friend. I probably her friend who put the petroleum and just for you. Notice autofocus brake fluid will not work <hes>. I injured oil petroleum. No nothing with petroleum products. We're we're working a brake system because the it will swell the rubber and to that end now very interesting here. You've heard me and other companies. Stop leak nama tomo case he'll hear radiate. I'm talking about <hes> transmission. Stop leak and and those sorts of things and there there are transmission awesome. Stop leaks on the market and how do they work. They work the same way. They work the same way. That petroleum works the brake system that swells the rubber. The problem is if you could add <hes> two milliliters of oil to the brake system. Let me take that back. Never do that okay if you if you knew how much if you had a transmission seal it was leaking or an engine seal that leaking and you knew just how much swelling product chemical you could add to swell the seal without going too far then you can have a stop league and and that's what that's the chemical that is in engine oil. Stop leaks and limited what it is. It's called napa thick oil napa thick nepotistic nepotistic is napa napa. It's a solvent show if you took a rubber ring. That was the size of a quarter and the coil. The ring was one hundred thousand say in one hundred thousands <hes> recip- thousands is about the size of a number two pencil the okay that the lead so you've got a rubber ring like a rubber band. That's what draws transmissions rubber bands literally rings so if you drop that ring into napa aw let us sit overnight tomorrow. It'd be blown up the i don't mean blown up like explosion it would be swollen and it would grow to twice its size. It still be the size of a quarter except at the <hes> the number two pencil sides now would be the size of a an ink pen the filler of an ink fan you see the <hes> the the picture i'm trying to paint so so if you knew and this is where the trick comes in for those companies that make stop leaks for transmissions if you knew how much to add then you could do a partial spread or partial swell of the seals how this stuff works so you sort of all is that is is that good long-term <hes> what usually usually those products are used on cars. That aren't worth what the price i saw the <hes> repair would be. I mean you've got a car. That's two hundred fifty thousand miles and it's fifteen years ol- and and it's it's used up. You've driven the new off off the automobile and it's got a transmission leak on unfortunately est the front seal of the transmission which means you gotta pull transmission so so when you pull the transmission and he pulled front pop and i mean there's now how far do you go and and and then in the process of the shop removing the the transmission they're gonna find other weak points like the mount because it's going to be worn out as well because the cars hold an engine mounts are are short-lived but anyway because they're isolators their rubber isolators otherwise you you would feel a gritty vibration in your in your car in fact today's as engine mounts have jelly them or a thick gooey molasses type and their rubber but they have this jelly and that access the shock give lower so it's like a little lily pad floats within the engine. The engine can shake as much as it won't say oh. This is really smooth car. You're you get an alexis and you say wow. You can't even feel as engine running yeah. That's because it used jail field. <hes> motor mounts anyway so go back to the nepotistic oil the nepotistic the naphtha will swell the seal just enough to help. Stop the leak and you can use ca-car though let's stop leaks on cars that aren't worth the price or repair and to that end. That's a product that <hes> with regard nothing the transmissions but with cooling system the case seal product that we talk about that i endorse does have within it a ceramic and it doesn't swell swelling. He seals it uses a ceramic product that restricts the flow of cool out the whole whatever that whole is whether it's in the head gasket cetera block or or a radiator and that case he'll specifically designed so that when it reaches a temperature and it sees the difference in temperature temperature it clogs that whole but it so in the engine it flows freely but when there's a problem with leak leak. It's really cool case he'll. 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We're gonna talk about cars and i've got a lot of great information and just just an essay just not fifteen seconds ago <hes> learned of a new process from our partners at a rally auto parts and i'll share that would later in the in the program but it's of all of the assets that that <hes> a quality part can bring to you when you have your car fixed or if you're a d._i._y. Or when you go to a store and you buy par rally auto parts to my knowledge this is the first in the industry and i'm going to tell you about that but don't want to rush you so i'll i'll share that with you. During my time to enter your car questions uh-huh handle will take your call triple eight car clinic. That's triple eight two two seven twenty five forty six is going to be a fast hour so get your call in early. We we already have a victor from washington. Always love to hear from him. 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Welcome to this hour of bobby like car clinic so a lot of information that i'll share with you you but more importantly than information that i share with you our conversation that you and i have with regard to <hes> automobiles the bills on your car and so just consider me your personal car consulted and remember the only dumb car question is the one on not asked and i say that from my heart and soul so never never ever and i use the word never are but never ever so that's two words so it's not saying he's <hes> think that yours is a dumb question if you don't know about a particular product or a <hes> a repair or how to go about it not not you doing the actual work but how to communicate with your local service shop this. That's what i'm here for four so let's get started. The victor called in really early so we got to go first to washington moses lake washington victor. Welcome <music> welcome back. I haven't talked with you in a while. How are you sir pretty good. How are you doing just really really terrific. <hes> let's get started. What what's on your mind morning. Okay <hes> now on the i know the engines are more efficient now but they used to use to say there's quite a bit of energy going out to tailpipe and <hes> i was wondering if they have ever tried to <hes> first of all time. What is the efficiency of the engine how much what percentage of the energy is going off to tailpipe do. Do you know that well thank you. Only twenty percent of the fuels deliverable power is converted to power so there's a lot of heat loss <hes> and and to that end that's where the real that's where the real challenge you hit the nail on the head because to burn all of the fuel that goes into the engine all all of the fuel during the short millisecond time that the that the engine hastert combustion and a night the spark and burn it and create a pressure. It drives the piston down that drive the wheels. That's all done before. I could even take a breath though the blink of an is two hundred milliseconds and injectors open three milliseconds so it's all so fast that it's it's beyond my comprehension now because we have higher compression and because we have direct act injection and because we have engines that have tighter tolerances not only all the clean air from a mission standpoint which is upper motion o._e._m. That no victor they don't sell l. cars by the horsepower or the or the weight or what have you they sell it by how many grams of emissions per mile it emits though i mean that's what i'm that's what they deal with every day so that twenty percents factor today. I'm not i don. I haven't looked at a study but i'm going to say it's probably in the thirties now so we're getting more and more usable power were out of the fuel that is used in the engine and the challenge has been not the fuel but has been the engine designed and that's where the engine designers continue to excel sell and <hes>. It's just amazing. <hes> you know back to you yeah <hes> so there's a quite a bit of energy. That's still going out a the tailpipe. I was wondering how 'bout burn would it come out of the the initial burn cylinder cylinder that was smaller than the <hes> second cylinder that it went went into so that you could pump oxygen in with it because the expansion the heat would make it bigger probably the the amount of gas is coming out would be expanded and be bigger so you have a smaller cylinder into a bigger cylinder pumping in more oxygen and then you'd probably would have to shoot a little bit of <hes> go to the spark plug to get a spark because i don't think you could spark. Could you with a dry hot <hes> mixture and very lean just don't leftover what what would you say about that well to that end the way you would new and you've hit the nail on the head. Unfortunately that's after the bell has rung indicate honoring the male so after the combustion process you don't have time to gather up and to create another pulse of pressure so what manufacturers the factors not manufacturers. They haven't done this. What formula one has and i mentioned this. I mentioned flight for three different weeks and i haven't had a an interest interest but it's really interesting to me. It's called turbulent jet ignition and they're using this in formula one race engines and here's so here's the bottomline you mix air and fuel and the atomised the air and fuel and then you pressurize it and it's hot and you reach it to that critical point that you don't want to self explode because if that happens then you got engine damage so you reach a critical point and then at the at the right timing you light the smart plug and then the fire. There's no explosion in the cylinder. There's only a flame front propagation so you'd like to the fire at the spark plug so every every heat particle off you say heat particle but every flame that is left leaves as the starting point which at the spark plug it grows across the chamber in this shortly the time that you and i are talking about well the far regions of the chamber they don't get their share of the heat so you have unburned fuel and then they're the chemical gasoline has up to a thousand different chemicals was in gasoline. It's a pretty messy stuff but so what what what is left over at the end of the burn the is the one percent and that's the the most toxic particles <hes> that that gets distributed in the air except the catalytic converter after burner that cleans up after the miss having having said that this turbulent jet ignition is a direct injector injector. It has a pre chamber direct injector. It has a pre chamber housing it has a spark plug and spark plug lead and and it's the size of your thumb or a little bit larger larger and so what this allows victor it allows the store kill metric which is fourteen point seven parts air air to one part fuel which is the optimum <hes> that manufacturers have to reach n._s. Lambda that's what the the auction sensor is designed to <hes> to keep in online okay. That's the auction center at the perfect. Mixture is a lambda or fourteen point seven to one bar fuel so if you could make eighteen to one then draw mixture you're talking about now so if you make it eighteen to one or twenty two one then you would have less leftover gasoline gasoline so you'd have more energy or the same amount of energy with less waste which is more energy from less so how do you do that you start a bigger fire hire so this turbulent jet device is a ball of fire like a they've used phasers lasers they've used officers but lasers and and all sorts of <hes> are indeed are continuously being performed to try to find a better sparkplug because because sports has been around one hundred years so so the problem is <hes> the cost of this unit but it's called and you can look this up after our conversation turbulent jet ignition t j and formula one race cars use it for for that very same reason because in a formula one race car you're relegated to x. amount of fuel so if you're faster that i and your your car can outrun me and you you're half ahead and you gotta stop get fuel because i'm getting better gas mileage and i time myself right. I'm going to win the race and to that end what i went to indiana two weeks before the the the race some three fifteen three three years ago i was in the andretti camp and this was the two weeks before the race and i was at the pit wall and rossi alexander under rossi was driving a they were time trialing and testing or indy cars and he's a rookie and he won that two weeks slater course back home. He won so the andretti camps at like us who come back next time because you know you came down to the race track in new saul him i didn't speak to him because he was in the car across the pit wall but the point is he won that race because he did not stop to get gas or ethanol. They use eighty five straight eighty five and fifteen percent. I guess he didn't stop and get fuel and as i remember he won the race but he couldn't make it to the winners circle that had to push the car because he's out of fuel and he didn't stop and get so if you could time at that time at that perfectly and get better gas mileage and he by the way <hes> he went thirty six laps there seventeen and a half gallons of fuel in those cars and he got. I think <hes> you went thirty six labs so you can do the math two and a half mile track oval. I think i think he got two point five point one miles per yeah i think it was five point one miles per gallon which is unheard of course at that time. I didn't know they were using turbulent jet ignition systems and that may be an art may have been too early but <hes> but i know that fact so so the bottom line is us if we can get more a modernisation of air fuel if we can burn all if we can get all of the air fuel if we had time in a cylinder to get all the air in the fuel completely and thoroughly blended so that when you lift the fire all of it would burn than we would optimize and they are engines that that do that. There's a complete article on that. <hes> you know there's a hard break. Gotta go great question. Look it up turbulent jet ignition back with gordon to call a yours will not go back and the service made this week a longtime customers customers two thousand and ford taurus. He'd been complaining about a humming noise at highway speeds grinding when he stopped with fifty five thousand miles on the dominator. The drivers had the vehicle since new never ever had any work done. 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You're listening to bobby lobby like his car clinic and now back to body cochlear and your host bobby and welcome back to the segment of bobby likes carpeting a really great show today and i really proud to be able to share with you information every saturday very from ten till noon right here on bobby likes car clinic. <hes> hannah will take your calls triple eight car clinic. That's triple eight two two seven twenty five forty-six six. Put you in the queue and i will put on the air. <hes> i want to share with you. What i mentioned earlier about a reilly auto parts and then we're going to take gorge costs gordon. You stay there and and folks. I announce a good time to get in. I'm really excited about this latest opportunity from o'reilly auto parts well. You'll know why in a minute. Let me ask you this question who knows the best quality shops in any given city our the local community who who knows i mean if you're a parts counter person for o'reilly auto parts you would have oh oh gosh probably depending on the size of the city anywhere from twenty to one hundred twenty different local shops that purchase parts from you you you you know these shop owners you know the service desk personnel you know the parts department at the independent shops and dealerships as well show the parts counter man or woman at o'reilly auto parts would know now arado parts have has gift cards judge. You can get ten dollar gift cards on a superstar battery. You got five dollar gift card on a superstar premium and on the platinum superstar battery fifteen dollars so they're they're terrific reasons and gift cards to do business with rally auto parts but here's one that i did not know oh about until this morning so i guess maybe i'm a little bit behind doesn't matter repair shop referral and i will tell you this. I i can guarantee you if you call a rally auto parts in pensacola florida and you ask them well. I'd like the name of the two best shops. Are the one best shop shop the three best shops top shops that do business with you out of fifty. You're going to get the right answer because these folks no and how do you do that. I i did not realize that rally autoparts was offering the service but i do know now and i want you to know you can text six forty seventy eight text six forty seventy eight and and and find out the professional shop in your area. I think that is the most significant <hes> surival through revelation to me. I mean i uh i just think it's the most significant <hes> plan to help customers and if you're a d._i._y. Or you can get wiper blades and batters new euro but there are some things on many things on cars today that require a professional and and i know because we're in the business forty eight years show if if you're in a situation where you need to know what the highest level professional shop you text six forty seventy eight <hes> from a auto parson. Let's get to know what they're doing and they know who knows and who's the best shop because we buy parts from them every day. As has any shop does and if you buy a part when it doesn't work you call your call your your contact back and say this part doesn't work the their. They worked really well. They'll give you another one but if you've got one shop that has fifteen bad parts today is not the part. It's the shop so make no mistake about it. The pros know their business again. Just remember that write it down somewhere text six forty seventy eight. It's the most professional national opportunity for marketing that i think has ever come after in the aftermarket and i've been in the aftermarket is all my career. You're okay. Let's take calls now triple eight two two seven twenty five forty-six gordon. Thank you for holding welcome to bobby like his car. I wanted to get that out because i'm so impressed by the fact that the cost this is this is the way you you find help in your community but let's talk about your your dodge raj. Yeah it's a long time those e and even <hes> as in nineteen ninety-three dodge caravan front wheel drive. I think it's a three point zero six cylinder anyhow. The bottom line is here recently. I'll the driving down the road and both the speed limiter the odom litter and the gatt gauge all all three stop working at the same time that i think it's the gauge light comes on now. Sometimes the engine light comes on later so my neighbors are a master mechanic and he we did the thing is the coach checkers really all we ain't got one. We did the thing where you turn the car on and off and on inaugural yeah yeah yeah the geico eh for the dominator so now there's two. There's two things that are concerning me. First off is what is it like a loose wire or lose ground lose connection and secondly. Would it even be worth it to try to repair this thing based on the fact that the repair may be worth more than the vehicle. I'm thinking it's just a loose connection but everything was mechanics and they're all very smart older all that they're stunned and so i'm gonna use my lot line to the great source of knowledge tag team was bobby your near your so kind and you're so all right so no okay. Here's what i would do. I has anyone removed the cluster to check the twenty nine pin main connector tur- ella backside. I'm not sure if we remove the cluster and we my i wanted my neighbor. We took the front panel off. We removed a whole bunch of things from from inside the car lack. We lax where you can see when you're sitting in front of the classroom was one of those things that was removed or not okay but when you were a whole bunch of stuff all right so so let me let me tell you what the cluster means. You're driving the car. You're looking at us at the speedometer this odometer all the gauges and that's a cluster that's it's kind of oval-shaped and that's one assembly that has the oil and gas attempt all everything the cluster so that's when i referred to the cluster after that means that is the assembly that houses all of the gauges that a driver uses to monitor the vehicle yeah when we put it back together we were under the impression that maybe there was a loose connection and putting it back together would make the connection good in a way works it works and it messes up some work on the gordon but gordon again you say thank you. I think we're on the same page here but you have an answer. My question did in your technician removed that cluster. I don't know what the cluster looked like. We we removed a whole bunch of stuff that you know when you're sitting in the car and looking edit a whole bunch of stuff there behind the steering wheel we removed you okay okay and i think it was removed but our goal no okay. I'm gonna say that he did <hes> because that's a whole bunch of stuff is you're referring to the cluster 'cause they. You know i mean the whole bunch of <hes> lines on the football field goals goal post and and all all that but the but the cluster doesn't refer to the goal post are the lines it is the whole football field is the dome you know like the the superdome home you know so so the dome at all means the cluster show. I think what you're telling me but but you know you didn't what cluster meant he did. Remove the cluster in the reason that i say the ask that question is because the thing that's common to all of these different issues that you're having is the main plug that feeds voltage to ground to the cluster which is houses all the gauges so oh that's what i'm talking about here and and if so then they've already they've already done what i would suggest in what i would suggest would be to remove ooh cluster and then to look at the the twenty nine pin under twenty or thirty or fifty remove the the connector so that you put that cluster on the bench and now you've got the the the whole in the dash and he's got the cluster on the bench out the car. Can you say if if you seem to the bench out of the car and they just do one delegates at a time or do you know the there were two different things that came off behind the steering wheel and they were like they were flattened plainer looking and it had like a whole bunch of things that they hooked up to and so we didn't put them on a bench we just put them in the seat or out of the way and then look around okay and after we were we couldn't remove anything else then we carefully put it back together okay so did that have any benefit to <hes>. Did it change the action and the issue of significantly or or at at at all as far as i can tell it didn't change but the the interesting thing that i want to let you know. Just you know what what's what's going on is it both before and after it would work some it would work someone would mess up and it gives me the impression that there was a loose ground or something similar that was common to all it. Well it to that end. There was a there was some rhythm to the to the work work work non work before and then after this investigation investigation did the did that rhythm change not racking noticed random okay well here. Here's the the here's another issue. There's a ninety. Three model doesn't have a body control module. It doesn't okay that's back way up. Okay a and folks now to get time to get in because i'm <hes> i'm tied up with electrical. This is the worst possible thing you could happen on air is to get tied up at electrical but gordon. I wanna help you anyway away and folks. The tanta will take your call triple eight two two seven twenty five forty six so stay with me so gordon again what gauges are are giving issues. Now i know for fact that the speed ometer and the odom litter and the the gas gauge all stop working at the same come to gas gauge goes to zero the dominator apparently has there's something electrical in it. I mean it stops turning. Even though i'm going on the road the other gauges may or may not stop op but i haven't noticed them. I would like the oil lot not on normally so messed it up. I wouldn't know the others maybe well then then <hes> <hes> <hes> i do think that is it is a what's a common denominator for those gauges and it would be a ground for those gauges so here's the bad news is well yes. I guess it's good news. The good news is if they have a wiring diagram. There will be a list. I mean we use for instance. We use all data and you've heard me mentioning all data for years we use all data and all data <hes> <hes> is online at as most of our information these days because the books are like reams of books <hes> and we we have different color code of the wires green ready blue whatever and it gives the junction blocked number so what i recommend is i recommend in that without taking the car apart a technician look at the wiring diagram and find the commonality of those three gauges and that's going to be at certainly is not gonna be the the the the gas gauge is in an offer it might itself <hes> and a separate from the dominant the dominant and speedo are connected so that would indicate a speed sensor however ever speed sensor doesn't have anything to do with the gas gauge so ergo. I don't think he got a bad gas gauge and a man speedometer. I think you have what's colin to them. A bad ground owned or a bad printed circuit board. That's what you need to look for a bad printed circuit board and you can buy those and if you came by them go to a recycling the yard by another cluster remember cluster remember that word folks. I'll be back after the break folks. Recently ninety nine chevrolet blazer came into the shop. The owner owner was having problems with hesitation on acceleration. He'd already changed out several parts. Spark plugs wires ignition coil mass airflow sensor fuel-filter and the airfield element. I don't even change the thermostat and coolant temperature sensor still had the same problem after putting a lot of money in his car and he was frustrated. We dug a little deeper cleaned thrall body body and check for trouble codes no coach shall we recommended berryman b twelve kim tool carbon deposits and dirty fuel injector nautilus or a common problem withdraw ability and late model engines. We also recommended a higher quality gasoline. 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You're listening to bobby like his car clinic and now back to body and your host bobby likes and welcome the segment of bobby like his car as i told the gentleman there with a ninety three van at the very end of the conversation before the break <hes> <hes> rather than to spend a lot of time energy dollars and dollars and money and dollars and time you might just go to a recycling yard and buy another cluster assembly the same year make and model and because it's ninety three model automobile you could replace place one cluster with another and not have any ramifications that would not be true if that were a later model automobile because the cluster wallet might physically fit would have to be programmed to the car so as cars have gotten more sophisticated so so have the operational procedures that we have to deal with in automotive service business bobby like his car can is brought to you in part artists morning by berryman products and folks barons be thirty three engine degreaser has a proprietary blend of high performance detergents are johnson emulsifiers behrman be thirty three engine degreaser easily penetrates road grime dirt grease and oil. You can learn more at berryman. Berryman products dot com great products. Check them out. Berryman products dot com show your call triple eight two due to seven twenty five forty six. I mentioned earlier about the <hes> twenty twenty mustang or if i didn't i had headed on in my queue all morning and it's really kinda cool ford's new shelby g._t. Five hundred that is gonna come out in twenty twenty. Get this will have seven hundred and sixty horsepower and horse powers not that important well. It is but that's not what you feel that seat of the pants drawing away. That's not horsepower torque so this seven hundred sixty horsepower engine has six hundred and twenty five pound feet of torque and let me give you an example when i mentioned viper i mean you know we know we all know how bad a debt car was ross a bad. I mean you really bad really pretty fast uncontrollably fast really so i had one <hes> that i kept fifteen years and bought new and and it had four hundred and twenty fifty horsepower and four hundred twenty five foot pounds of torque four hundred and fifty horsepower. Here's a mustang. This got seven hundred sixty horsepower and six hundred twenty five pound feet of torque but what's really neat about this is it's it's a v._8. That has a two point six five liter eaten more super charger. That's pushing twelve twelve p._s._i. To generate seven hundred sixty horsepower grunt and then the part that i really love most about and respect most about this when i say respect back but means <hes> design wise is the tree mac seven speed dual clutch transmission carbon fiber driveshaft and a three seventy three torsan limited slip independent rear suspension show you have all the power in the world and if you can't get it to the ground around then it's not and so when you've got limited slip differential and you got a tree mac by the way the the shift speed of uh-huh tree mac or a dual clutch transmission. This one is eighty milliseconds. How how fast is that well. They advertised taste new corvette. Do you know the two thousand twenty as a shift dual clutch at under one hundred millisecond. That's right well. Forward is nail. There's at eight in milliseconds. The blink of your eye is two hundred milliseconds. A transmission can shift real years ears. Now has real gears in it schiff from first to second in eighty milliseconds and your blink give it is three hundred to two hundred milliseconds inch is unbelievable so i just want to share that with you because i i think it's just over the top of the opportunity and you know it's so it's a buyer's market. If there's a vehicle that you want it's not on the market you wait. Six months and some manufacturers are going to bring it out now granted you gotta have the pocket book to my it but that's all in the eye of the beholder and your bank account. I guess i see georgia's in the coup. We're gonna go to him in a minute but i i wanna thank our partners at super chips. <hes> i recently installed an f. if three fifty a diesel big four door beautiful ford truck. I'm not a truck person so i want you to know that but <hes> this is a a you know a super chip and i put an amt throttle programmed switch assembly in it which amplifies the movement of the throttle so if you if you originally would press one inch and it would open throttle of say say the trial had four inches of movement and you've moved the pedal one inch you would open it a quarter of the way right right okay well with super chip thron lamp you can magnify that fifty seventy five one hundred percent or four hundred percent so you could actually moved oof throttle in the four hundred percent insane mode move to thrall one inch and it would be like nailing the throttle all the way to the floorboard why i said well. Why would i wanna do that just for pure joy but to feel the power and anyway it's a great our friends at suber chips the have another fantastic ethic offer and i want to share that with you and it's only through september the thirtieth so you purchase inequality flash pack tuner and you can receive a fifty dollar rebate okay so fifty bucks that you get back the flash pack add power fuel economy potential and towing capacity in traveling over oughta super chips dot com for all the information and just know when you buy a super chips product you buy one that bobby like us has endorsed installed installed and use and if i had a ford truck or a chevy truck or jeep or chrysler product i would have a super chips tuna pag on my car car period because of the benefits that that <hes> kit provides. We'll take a call george. I'll take your call at triple eight two two seven seven twenty five forty-six george. Thanks for holding welcome to bobby like bobby. Thanks for taking my call sure. What can i do for a two thousand thirteen intron electra and this is my third set of tires that i put on and only got forty six thousand miles well when you say a set of tires front wheel drive car right so we know that the front tires where more quickly than the rear correct okay showed you set of tires. You're talking about front tires. You've replaced no. I'm talking about all of them because they've been moved to rotated. Oh oh okay i i forget. I'm sorry well see see. I can't rotate the tires on my car staggered show. I got to say okay well. Well what well. How often did you rotate them. Well every five thousand miles and you get a how many miles onset of toddlers i've got well. I only got thirty thousand miles on and they were sixty thousand dollars sixty thousand warranty tar and i only got thirty thousand miles on and and i had to line and everything showing how would you categorize yourself at the driver. I don't know i think <hes> i mean and are you aggressive aggressive. I don't put you down to the floor by floor. Yeah well let me ask this question. When you wear where the tires and can you tell me if they have been worn like evenly across the tire or or are you having edgeware or center of the tire where no it seemed like it's a right across just where well then i would change tire brands and i would change when you buy when you buy heavy change tire brands. Have you changed. No no well. You gotta change tire branch. You're gotta hubei sixty two thousand tire and you. You're a decent driver when i say decent. You're not an aggressive driver now. I'm an aggressive driver because i enjoy the brunt of my car and it's you know and what have you so. The rear tyres ca-car wear more quickly than a front tyre. I can't rotate michael's are staggered so the rear are order but having said that <hes> i get twenty four thousand miles out of a set of tires and <hes> and i'm good with that because their performance and <hes> they're they're somewhat somewhat soft. What for you in a in a law tra to get thirty thousand miles out of set of tires that are sixty thousand mile talk. You got to change tire brands and you got to buy a tire based on the reports. Let me who would i. Here's what i would recommend listen. Can i matter sure i don't care well. You gotta change to another tire because the the mission mission is not serving you so so here's what i would do okay <hes> and i'm i'm not connected to this company. We buy tires through this company <hes> as well as other other tire manufacturers will or suppliers. They're not manufacturers and you ever heard of tire rack. Yes i mean tirec is is a unbelievable reputation when i decided to buy what would i restored. My porsche and i wanted to buy tire in the first place. A not eleven porsche is dangerous in the rain because there's no wait on the front of the car. The engine is cantilevered and over the back of the car so it lifts the front of the car and and i've actually driven down the highway seventy miles an hour gone through a puddle and the car flipped sideways i mean can't not sideways but the the nose would move over like six inches which feels like assad ways and all i did was hang on and do nothing and and it straightened itself out so i swore that when i when i restored jordan car which i did i was going to buy tires. I was going to buy aqua tires tires that are designed for wet weather and to heck with performance how much it costs a car came with pirelli p zero per pirelli and i used to buy them every twenty thousand miles having said that i wanted to tirerack and and i looked for the reports and i saw where <hes> people that had bought and this is from memory people that have bought tires from parolee from tirerack would give reports and they were like five million miles of reports from that from different owners but totaling ling five million miles and they rate the tire in the wet weather of the dry weather in other words they rate the ties performance depending on on on the driving conditions based on reports from real world owners and it's a great marketing tool and it's a great resource for or you. Would you buy tires permission or not. I mean from from thai forget michigan tirec or not so it's a great way for you to learn who got in real to the real world because there's a bunch of georgia's out there or tom. Dixon harry's that have a thirteen along tra a hyundai rather and so i would go to tie rack and i would look up <hes> for your car and then i would look at their reports and i would gain all that knowledge free free and then i'll make a decision into call me back and and discuss it and you you're looking for a rating somewhere between the high sixes and the eights is i remember remember. I bought an aqua tire that was rated a seven point eight and my car was eighty model. I finished it in december of of two thousand and four the car drove and handled better with no suspension suspension but it had a tire that wasn't even designed designed when the car was manufactured so i have an eighty model automobile that handles better than it did new because the tires are disappear. It's like buying a it's like buying a a._g._m. Battery you know cl- mentioned i mentioned optima the notre partners of ours but if you've got a car that's ten years old and you're going to buy a battery for it or you got a diesel truck and you need a pair of batteries. The optima a._g._m. Is a superior battery that you couldn't have bought thirty years ago so so so use that knowledge to not only alleviate v._8. Your problem but to gain the resource so that you'll know what in the real world what's happened. You got it. I got it okay my friend. I'm glad you called reggie. Call have you got. Have you got time for another question. I don't what is it okay okay. Thank you very much. You're welcome george calming next week. <hes> that would've so so cool about that a nice guy but seriously <hes> i have the same challenges ages that you do when i look for tires i mean i've got the third set of tires on my car and i do not like the tire wear and i do not like to tire that. They're thump thump thumping they they. They have the the flat flat spot but you're so quiet that i keep buying them. The dunlop's never did like dunlop tire but they're so quiet the car so quiet i can put up with little thump thump thump because it goes away after a few miles show. It's kind of a life. It's a compromise i want to share with you in closing <hes> standard thermostats fail and when they do they caused problems motorhead has a special thermostat that if it should fail or your engine should overheat it will lock into the open position show that means that you have some savior device that will help you do a fail safe mechanism with a unique extra stroke that enables operations in different stages so it really is a super thermostat and for more information nation go to motor red dot com and check out the latest and the greatest in thermostats caps and also engine management systems hi sean. Thank you for tuning in today <hes>. I really think that it's <hes> it's an impressive that you should know that <hes>. I don't have that sorry but <hes> i don't have the time that i really would like to share with you in folks <hes> appreciate every week right here on bobby like cartoony. May i answer your car questions. I'll give you information that you just can't get anywhere else and i learned to and so it's a win win win. I win you win and we win next week tyndall noon eastern time bobby likes car can be like us. You're gonna love us. I'll see you then folks and tanks about tuning in today. This is bobby bobby cochran. It gives a copyrighted presentation of car clinic clinic productions inc and may not be reproduced or rebroadcast without the express written approval of carquest productions inc. It's back to school time in the car. Care council has a five point checklist to make sure your vehicle. It's kids safe and road ready. I checked lights and wipers for visibility second. 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Didn't you find hang on a second time. He didn't wanna fight. He went to mob and went to <hes> alon. He went to italy. I gave him a rematch by what why do you think he left the way he did back that of all the people all the fighters me got hello. Yes what's cracking. Jim rome with you and it feels great to to be back blowing a little bit of dust off the old side hustle after two weeks away how y'all live in welcome to the jim rome podcast specifically welcome to f ninety you one my guest. This week is international boxing hall of famer and olympic gold medalist sugar ray leonard now. If you know anything about me and my approach to this is that i do do not route. I don't play favorites. I'm paid not to route or play favorites that said ray leonard is not only one of my favorite boxers ever. He's one of my all time favorite athletes there. I set it off standby it a hall of famer with an unbelievable flair for the dramatic who was part of many of the greatest moments that i've ever seen in sports literally any sport today raise an analyst ford zone. He's an author he's a philanthropist and he is a big time golfer so much get caught up on past present and future so let's not waste another second. Let's ring the damn bell touch gloves on episode ninety one of the jim rome podcast with sugar ray leonard breath so right. It's so great to get caught up with you. Now you have lived in amazing life both in and outside the ring and to me ray. I don't know how you've done this. I think you've somehow reversed the aging process. You look amazing. You're you're an analyst. You're active with your foundation. Bring me up to date. How's is life. What your mission now. You know jim first of all it was great talking to you man and <hes> no life is great. I i'm truly blessed man. I've been in this in the sport. What for nearly forty some years <hes> have come out somewhat unscathed. <hes> life is great. You know <hes> my kids what they call that when y'all you can't leave the house because we're now in the process of selling a home because it's just you know it just just too too big. It's just too much. I should say and <hes> no life is wonderful. I unfortunately i lost my dad about a year or so ago. <hes> ninety five years old <hes> taking care mom mom's <hes> she's a feisty ninety-year-old. Oh life is good. My kids are getting bigger taller and more demanding but <hes> things are things are fantastic. I think man. I hear that i hear all that way so when we look back on your career ray you said something really interesting not long ago you said that before fights that if you looked in the mirror and you saw sugar ray leonard you knew you couldn't lose but if you saw ray leonard it was going to be a rough night. What did you mean by that. You know jam. I swear i look in isn't that beer and and i do that a lot when i was getting ready for fights. It's just that i look in the mirror. I see who i am. I see what's was gonna. Take hey to beat my opposition and although it's been rare i mean maybe happened. Maybe five times out of my entire career. I'm looking at various civilian ray leonard and i'm saying it's going to be a tough like but for the most part i i've been able to overcome those things i kinda duck down even deeper to <hes> make that not be the case. Go back to that point in monterey by you digging deep because that's always one of my favorite things about your career but me ask you this because you fought during an amazing era for the fight game. There were so many great fighters and the best fought the best and there was so many super super fights and you were right in the middle of so many of them look. I'm not saying that there aren't great fighters today. Because of course there are what happened to the fight game and could it be anywhere near. You're like it was during your era well it. You know it's first of all. There's more money on the table no question about that. There's more <hes> exposure. Oh sure there's more publicity and everything i mean. It's all relative. It's all it's like when muhammad ali was fighting an ali. May i think ali me what five million we before joe frazier that come up making five ten you know whatever <hes> then then who else who calls behind me <hes> mike tyson jason mike in twenty thirty forty fifty and we've war and venice it's it's oscar de la hoya making you know that amount and then this may we're making that amount then is <hes> canal making fatima it goes josh anthony joshua just keeps going on and on because now there's more platforms. I believe that's the case if there's more platforms. There's more people interested in that. <hes> that's fight quite into that point right. We can't help when we were born right. It's all timing. It's all the time we can't help that so i gotta ask you about. Some of the great fights like for instance i can remember growing growing up and watching you and for instance like wilfred benitez is remember ray. How high was the day of that fight. I remember umbrella. Benitez was a prodigy. He was a world champion at seventeen. This guy was so skilled looking back on that rate. How hard of a guy was he hit and how. How tough a fight was that for you you you hit. The who were around. I mean francie. He was a prodigy at the tender age of seventeen world champion. He was so gifted. I you know what i what bothers me. He doesn't get the the <hes> the props that he deserved. I mean but the case the case is he didn't beat any of his unbeaten made and you know <hes> but he was an amazing guy. <hes> i never i never miss so so many punches in my career total than i did against benitez he and he was shocked. He was there that he wasn't there. You you know i actually went to the hospital after the fight because i was so dehydrated and i got back to my hotel for some reason someone suggests a hop in hot water oughta. Tell hot water which i did which you know i thought the blackout so rushed to the hospital dehydration <hes> <hes> the next day i i was okay but <hes> i remember that vividly. I told her i remember that if i so much because i want to win so they and i knew it was pretty close. That was a super fight now ray if i was close did you win that fight with that great hand speed athleticism or did you win that fight with your heart. I i think i well. I don't think i know the speed was a factor major major factor but it was also my heart you know dug down deep and i i didn't really catch up with him until the late around and that's when he became more <hes> stationary stationary you will then ray of course roberto duran now youtube or friends now and that's understandable but when you first thought duran what did you you think of him personally. Hey this bitch. I hated him. I i never hated the guy. Put it this way. I no no one is ever got under my skin like he did. It was such a lesson such a lesson <hes> although he couldn't speak english that well gave sal i mean had languages in hand gestures and when he chris my wife i mean i was i wanna be i mean i was like i want to get him so bad and the first thing i said i wanna on beam in his own game. I'm making them <hes> regret. This and durant durant hit me so hard so many times and i never been hit like that and hurt like that. He was perpetual motion. I mean smallest. He was he became a welterweight and his plus models day. Pediatrics has has had his hands were like stone. The amazing thing might take away from that is he did to you what you did the most guys he got under your skin. He got in your head. It changed the way we're going to fight them and used to right in front of him and fought his fight right. I did i did in fact you know. <hes> go back my corner. <hes> angelo dundee jiang's board a._j. They were like you know more much more punches more lamb lamb. That's what the key was land more punches and he was just so elusive. The taste was such a an incredible boxer. If you will so then durant beach you ray and then you wanted the rematch and not only do you want a rematch. You want a rematch as quickly as possible. Why did you want such a short turnaround for that rematch because i kind of knew roberto duran's lifestyle lifestyle that he will party and he will gain a more than a few pounds gain an enormous amount of weight. I mean talking thirty forty pounds. We even walk walk and and if i was it was unprecedented that rematch lesson one five months i think it was and <hes> i think that was one factors not defacto but one of the factors and also the fact that he beat me. I think that he took it took me for granted and i was kind of one dimensional but that's when i did the boxing thing and the thing with the signature without winding up my aunt those things ah were spontaneous i didn't i didn't train like that but it when i did that and the audience fans when laugh i see i got a look in his eyes and i saw he was like he was so confused about my movement ray so when you were mocking him you returning him. You wouldn't that bolo punch but ray said to yourself. This guy had manos deep hands of stone. This guy hit hard as anybody almost drew ever fought. Would you ever stuck your chin out in front of roberto duran prior to that back. You know what i looking back. In retrospect i that happened. I mean that that happens so it was so easy and when i did that and then the the the fans when the land they did laugh nisa expresses on his face because durant me was like a bully you know and if you do things like that mock him they'll do bullies would do one of the two things it will get you and find a way to get close to you and and bang you up or they will run away and durant that particular stickler night wants to run away taking place you made him quit rate one of the baddest dudes ever out quit on the biggest stage when you saw all that and you realize what was happening. What did you think i thought it was a trick. I thought he tried to learn me closer. Get me in in you know make me think that he was not doing right doing well. <hes> refugees jumped us and no no no no no 'cause he gave to chances like twice right right right now. As i mentioned you guys your friends now but he he said recently hey look ray knows. He never actually beat me. Ray knows that and take that to his grave what response to that <hes>. I'm going to wear <hes> right up pretty healthy no but but you know again i love durant we were friends and but if he believes that it's okay with me. You know what i know what i did. He knows what he did it to that knows for sure what to place in every i don't know ray. I was not in the ring but i'm pretty sure i know what took place. You mocked him. You taunted him and he got frustrated and he quit he. You know i the way i picture this. I said well he's durant and hate us but he's like a suicidal. Jump off a bridge and then halfway down. He says damn win the therapy. Ah jumped off and he because he was frustrated. He was so frustrated that he threw his hands up without really realizing the ramifications what what have on his legacy exactly that that to me is what that was and he later would say i'd cramps. I always heard i was sick. In he looked fine. He looked fine but also the thing about if he had cramps up even had cramps and and again i'm saying there's an all and and hardaway good way <hes>. If he had grant me he uh-huh he's been fighting for fifty years. We know how to eat. We know we know exactly what doesn't doesn't do well with stomach. You just don't have cramps all of a sudden body as temple your professional athlete. You know what putting your body so ray. I got picked my spots because there's so many amazing fights but like like boxing rate is such a brutal sport but at that time. I don't know that there was any when you tell me if you feel differently but i don't know that there was anybody at that time who was destroying when fighters the way tommy hearns was i mean utter destruction a great fighters. I'll never forget ray what he did to papina cuevas. Who i thought was a tremendous fighter ryder. You fought tommy that first time you both had belts and the thinking was the you might be in pretty deep going into that fight. What was your biggest concern burns. I was ringside for penal cuevas hit he. He annihilated whole another adjective backing you because he was he you destroy the penal 'cause pino when he hit you. It was pretty much over to but but tommy hearns was such a d._c. Such freak of nature hyped as reach his power in both hands and his heart. Tommy has huge hearts then and sometimes they they would. They got him in trouble but for the most part tommy just just broke down guys break down body shots and long spas and powerful jerry had probably wasn't bee's now. Why does men's health call the peleton bike quote to best cardio machine on the planet in end quote. I can tell you why because it is. I know this because i've had one. I've had it and i still do and i use it and i love it. Here's why my peleton the number one. 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When you purchase the peleton bike getting amazing cardio workout at your home go to one peleton dot com one peleton dot com use promo code rome and get started started one peleton dot com use promo code rome. It is one of my favorite products ever. I can say this <hes> you. You're my favorite evert fighter ever and i'm not supposed to say shit like that in my position because i got to be objective but you are and you're one of my favorite athletes ever for one of the reasons is something you mentioned earlier. When we started this conversation i would watch you fight and especially in that fight and it would seem like you were totally spent. You're sitting on empty. You've got nothing yet. Some nothing left. I mean yet somehow someway you could draw upon this this reserve and finish out of nowhere and in spectacular fashion and i saw how you do that time and time again. How did you do that. Where would you find that extra energy or reserve. Where did that come from. You know jim. We know <hes> you hit around the head. <hes> <hes> i spoke with mohammad ali longtime ago and so she was such a friend of mine had he's ready you know when i fought joe frazier praising the third time he was the closest thing to death and it looked like he was crazy. I see death. That was it. That was the same moments the same moment. It would tommy hearns. I haven't reached out 'cause we're called upon to bastet or give up and i again. I can't emphasize enough how exhausted i was tired. I was my arms and legs but my mind and my heart never waver and i got a stool. 'cause that's when angela anything you blow us on your blowing it and again the perfect soundbite the perfect sound bite. I knew angelo. I knew exactly what he said what he meant. He didn't have to scream at me. You know i didn't i i didn't i didn't get active that way. He just sit com manner. You'll blowing us on your blowing it. I got us to and i quote what time with the right hand and purchase like. It was the first round. I just my best to count. That's my d._n._a. It it was a famous soundbite angelo dundee. I think it was before the thirteenth round where he said you're blowing it son. You're blowing it. Lauren ray you the word you used the perfect. You activated activated it cujo. Could you activate that type of thing when you need it it. Could you consciously activated. How do you activate that. You know what i give motivational speaking all over the world and i talk about power repair overcome win every round and i said we all have this hidden reservoir strength as it's like the woman who tries who lifted copper the challenge. You know to save a kid the same thing we have it but the difference is i. I could be activated. Can you activate that. I think that that want something so you're retired. You retired a few times but i gotta say one of the times when you when you came no matter retirement to fight a guy in marvin hagler who essentially only god this guy. He was thought to be unbeatable indestructible. I mean he was in his prime and also obliterating world class fighters and you came out of retirement and literally rate. You're going to get the hell off your couch and fight. This guy guy. It seems is much respect as i had for you. It seemed like the craziest idea ever like ray. What were you thinking and what was the reaction in the boxing. When you said i'm coming out of retirement by the women to fight hagler i saw him fight <hes> john to be split copy and i saw something and then i remember him fighting durant and fighting roberto durant at the fight and i get knocked out cold because there is not really that big anybody you know he puts on my way but after fight durant came over to the <hes> <hes> raeside you box you beat them. These say told me that and and again i i say i can win. I can i can do this. The world the world thought i was crazy and they say also the concerns were i. I had a detached retina and and they just i thought i would be just seriously injured <hes>. I don't think maybe out of a hundred people. Maybe one person would think you'd probably relative was like a win. My father believe i could win but you know <hes>. I don't think no one else believed that and it's not and if i'm looking down but it's the reality of it hagler was a decent ivory and then i got i got knocked down. I came back and got knocked down by kevin kevin howard and kevin how is no marvelous marvin hagler rare remember that i remember that it seemed like it was kind of a flash knockdown but at the same time i was thinking is what hell if kevin howard is knocking ray leonard down right what is hagler going to do and you down before right when when he knocked down don't have i yeah i. I've been down all right so were you. Were you actually hurt just kind of embarrassed no more embarrassing. He hit me on on the temple which knocks off your equilibrium and you know you go down you go down and this you know how like down oh here right all right so but hag with the earth about this rain and some people know this but not everybody before the fight about five days before that fight with hagler a sparring partner nearly knocks you out so how did that make your handlers. Feel the people around you and how'd that make you feel what kind of impacted that have on you. Oh my god oh my god. I remember five five days before the fight and i got hit and <hes> in the car going back. Home was was quiet. I mean definitely quite in that car. No one said a word that were so when i got back to my my room i call my trainer my partner. I said they don't think i'm gonna win. He said what happened. I said nothing happened and <hes> that was such a key factor because originally i was on the stand to-to-to. Does i thought you know we looked uh-huh looked at hagler. Cuts always is that it will be easier to reopen <hes> that punch inch nearly knocked me out say made me fight fight port so interesting to be right because remember durant said you you decided added. He told you to box him yep. We know what happens at. Why don't you ask tommy hearns. What happens if you stand in front of hagler right yeah but but you are going to stand in front of him i was i really i mean. I'm whenever whenever whenever i reveal this i get chills math. What the hell i mean really <hes> one punch one punch <hes> changed. My life was a punch. It was a sparring session. It wasn't even during fight. I know yeah exactly so to this day. People still argue over who won that fight again i. I've always maintained that you won that fight. It was a really close fight. You've always been honest about your fights. Did you win that fight that night. I did yes i did but you know what even if i didn't win. Didn't i didn't raise my hand. I still why did i feel one. No i mean and you know the only thing that bothers me. Go has ever bother mean is the fact that <hes> they say why then you find the second time he didn't wanna find. He went mob and went to <hes> milan. Go to italy and live out there saw living there for a while i would i would give him a rematch by what this way why. Why did he go to milan. Did he go to act or do you think that loss embarrassed him and he left. Why do you think he left the way he did. You know what it's like this. It's like joe frazier. Never i mean we respect each other but even they never never feel comfortable around the homily. 'cause only kinda stole the show just just a bit too much if if that that loss else to hang out with hagler we've been with against durant or tommy hers you. We'll be talking now. Let me talk he would accept ah but the fact that all the people all the fighters me gang you know got the decision he couldn't they would. I know exactly what you're saying. Let me ask you let me ask you about one more fight and i want to be honest because i've been honest with you about how much i thought of you as a fighter and the fact that i was a little conflicted in honestly and again i'm not route. They pay me not to rude but i was rooted for you but the one fight that was interesting thing to me was the fight that you had terry norris and i bring this up because i took a tremendous liking to terry norris on the way his a fighter. I liked him as a guy. I thought he was a great athlete. Need a thought. It'd be very flashy and i remember when you took that fight. I remember thinking man. That's a really dangerous fight but ray always knows what he's doing so analytical. What what were you thinking about. Norris going into that flight and what do you remember about that night. Well you know i hate. I'm not making any excuse whatsoever but and and the gym i was looking great and then i pulled a couple of things and and i wasn't at my best i wasn't one hundred percent and and again taking nothing away from territory to me was an incredible champing again fantastic fighter and he beat me fairest grades. Just totally knock me. It was an old man <hes> that's what it was. He was faster stronger quicker more confident and <hes> i. I think i walk into that ring a little bit too much to too much <hes> civilized when i was at my best gym at my best i was i was a beast. I could hit that switch and i go for you. If i heard you it's over. I think if a chance to hurt turns turns to her we just to he was just too quickly. His aac game was there he did he did. He did what he wants to do. It's it's nice response by the way and you were just civilized. Hiring is challenging. You probably know this but there is one place where you can go. Were hiring is actually simple. 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Lee effective try it for free right now. Go to ziprecruiter dot com slash clones ziprecruiter really is the smartest way to hire you wrote this amazing autobiography and twenty eleven and frankly ray. It's a book. This is candidate. Is you're ever going to see from a hall of fame athlete and and you speak about a lot of things and you really open and it's really raw you talk about for instance period where you battled drugs and alcohol. Is you look back. When did you begin to us. And how bad did it get. I thought doing cocaine <hes> i it was no first alcohol. <hes> it was <hes> eighty to nineteen eighty two and i was trying to do what seem the best for not not necessarily me but for the public and my fans this thing like i said be because all my fans and think let let them know them smart and i'm this. I'm that logical and i retired not because i wanted to be because i had to show people the world that i was smart but that didn't make me happy because my ophthalmologist rate you so you can go back out with the technology. We have now the medical technology. Your left out. You're right is just go to your left that so that's why i came back i came and also i came back because it saved my life because when i was fighting i was clean lean. I didn't do the drug i didn't. I didn't drink like a like a maniac <hes> getting back. I was drinking all those kinds of stuff and that doing that writing a book book. <hes> took so much courage <hes> humility willingness. I didn't want people to think that i was weak alcoholic or drug addict. I was those things and then we saw i saw something on todd odd bridges on oprah and when he talked about that that's but i told my my my writer i said yeah you know i you know actually by the way also sexual abuse and see what wha-what so all these things i i start talking about and then when i did the book signing and there was a lot of people there i was a nervous wreck. I was shaking like a leaf and then when people came up and said hey man thank you so much in fact you know by the way that happened to me and these are big men would beers only guy young guy we hug. We crime that that same our life morais that is so powerful and that is so raw the you. You're a multiple world champion. You were a gold gold-medalist you right fierce person and as you mentioned and you mentioned this new book. You were a victim of child sexual abuse. Can you share like what happened exactly. Exactly what were you going through. At that time i was was some some some guy who i i believe in so well and <hes> he took advantage of that and <hes> hit me in the car and he went down on me and i and i i remember vividly like it was yesterday i jumped out of the car ran home. I was crying like a baby. I got my mom got to house host. I didn't tell anyway laden. The been was cry myself asleep. Next point is anthony next year next five years next ten years. This ended eh so this thing and didn't activate didn't didn't didn't surface this these feelings and <hes> he just happened to me. It didn't surface until i drink because now i'm i'm. I'm more at ease. I would imagine drugs and <unk> alcohol to numb that pain later in life but temporarily so what was it like ray to put that on paper to tell the entire world world that after you carry that by yourself that whole time when people come up to me when i'm travelling whatever as he may thinks that happened to to me that happened to me my father my brother you know that's a good feeling because you know what i made an impact in out in the rain and to do something that i really had no control over for the most part that made an impact with just ordinary people after that so right if somebody listening right now experienced anything like that and is living with that pain and has never shared share that and they don't know what to do. They don't know where to turn. What would you tell that person. I'd tell them to be a fighter. I'll salary. You know what it's like a knockdown it. It is a knockdown tough to talk to your loved. Ones talked to someone who trust. Don't keep the t. so it's it's you can't you can't win all the way you win when you talk about it ray started the ray leonard foundation about a decade ago all before i let you go. What kind of work are you doing with the foundation. Where are you focusing your time in your efforts now. Well you know it's been an incredible journey with my life. Could i ten years ago. We started sugary foundation. The diabetes thing came up <hes> my father <hes> not betty my friends friends. I've available to kids diabetic and <hes> you know a a partner with chose husband los angeles raising awareness raising funds that goes towards research programmes that benefit intercity kids and kids in general. I absolutely love <hes> be rally at the are had them apart for so long for ten years and i tell you what it we can't win this thing guest diabetes individually model oh model it takes a corner. It takes all of us to join forces together goofy ray. You and i know each other longtime. We've had conversations before. We're always wants to see this radio. I'd say maybe two weeks ago. In fact i know for a fact i was on an airplane and was just kinda down around was a long long flight and then i was just watching their on air tv be flight and there was a documentary on mike man. I gotta get caught up ray. I got to connect with ray. I gotta get ray on the podcast. I'm so glad that i did rate is so good to spend time with you and i've always appreciated did you and the friendship and they pay me not to say it but you really are one of my all time. Favorite athletes were thank you so much. I love you too right. Thank you very much. Be sure you prepare for your summer road trip before you head out head on over to o'reilly autoparts simple preventative maintenance before you hit the road is going to ensure a safe journey during the summer months ahead o'reilly auto parts better parts better prices every day. O. reilly auto parts always great get caught up proper. 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More information has come out regarding chris jericho's awa world championship belt and how it was recovered. You covered the biggest story in wrestling jeff berlioux of the tallahassee democrat spoke to forty one year old frank price who who said he found the belt as he and his wife driving home from scalloping with friends on his birthday this sunday scalping what a birthday prince scalloping mike article noted price cooled spotted would appear to be a velvet bag in the middle of a turn lane and open it when they got home so he picked it up he he took home and then he looked to see what was inside. This is his story on a blaming me. I'm just reading the story. I think it said something like whoa. It's a huge wrestling alling belt. Check this thing out. I never would have guessed. I never would have guessed that if they lifetime of guesses he said his wife googled the title belt but thought it was just a fans replica replica something like that he posted in tallahassee lost and found section of craig's list pro wrestling championship belt on highway twenty sunday afternoon then he wrote contact me with details and you can come get it. Jericho reported the belt stolen filed a police report and then it says here that price handed the bill over to an investigator in the lobby and answered questions about how he found it while he was was there he bumped it to mike von the owner of mike limousine which had given jericho the fancy right to the restaurant price at vaughn was planning to file an insurance claim. Am i missing belt and was so pleased it had been found. He gave him a two hundred dollar. Reward that day investigators called take prices sworn statement. They were slightly suspicious about the reward and wondered whether price had called vaughn to arrange for their meeting at t. P. d. and v reward price assured him the meeting was purely coincidental and the reward unplanned price has texts emails receipts witnesses g._p._s. He has data on his cell phone to back up his story and proved that he was nowhere near millionaire or longhorn steakhouse when the belt went missing police haven't said he's under investigation but he said he would not be surprised if he were. I was joking that there would be investigated following around he said i figured the best approaches to just tell the truth and have fun with the whole thing so the tallahassee democrat. The police price actually told the democrat. I think what happened is they. Just set it on the trunk of the limo and it just fell off yeah. I think that makes perfect sense. You're now. That's the latest everybody you know yes. No is the limo driver under the investigation asian mean i when i heard the story i was like why isn't this the first guy that's being talked to. I mean there could be another row in here somewhere but you know i don't want to say i mean there's lots that's of different conspiracies and things that you can come up with in. Everybody's having fun with this was there. Another person in the limo was that it did somebody drive off to the limit. Are we missing a piece of this story. Is there more to this. How did that belt get in the middle of a turn lane. Did some really steal it out. Let me let me say this because i've had people say that this is all jericho's eric falt and maybe it is. I don't know i wasn't there but i've got an uber many many times who puts the stuff in the uber you or the driver me what kind of you getting mad at driver always puts the stuff in the trunk. Are you kidding me to my stuff. Every time i get get an uber drivers the one that puts his stuff in there so you're telling me that jericho and whoever else got a nice fancy s._u._v. style limo and the driver. Her wasn't the one who put all the luggage in the back. I think the driver put it on top of the limo and even if he didn't shoot in the driver's seat or sitting on top of the limo mall before he zooms off i go navy. There wasn't anything on top of the limo brian. It could've probably a black bag on top of a black limo. It was nighttime time they probably just missed it and being when he was making that left turn it slid off the roof or the trunk of the limo and ended up in that turnley i know is this is still a much better mystery than roman reigns daniel bryan and the two vintners the stroke which we still can't figure out yet by the way chris jericho will be defending the title against cody rhodes at the full gear pay per view take place on saturday november. Ninth got some other matches announced for that show as well tickets. Go on sale today noon eastern. I haven't heard anything yet. I'll have to follow up on that. Find out how these tickets did rush all morning here but i guess the obvious question which dave asked me the other day at somebody else asked me. This is going to sell out jim. What do you think oh show selling out last last night. I heard it was close to selling out. Okay that so. I'm going to say oh absolutely this is going to sell out. I think that the demand for television taping tickets may get a little softer but i think for the foreseeable future. I think the paper views will do well because if they're only doing four a year or somewhere in that range i think demand for pay per reviews particularly with the shows that they've delivered. <hes> has shown fans that they're going to get good shows for their money so yeah absolutely it'll sell out. I wanted to say this by the way we we were talking the other day about this show in baltimore and on the observer radio show we're talking about whether it was in his cell. I think dave must have asked me anyway anyway so he was talking about how well the last time ross was inbuilt baltimore. It didn't sell out and this could it'd just be me but i don't think there should be any rob. Versus aid w comparisons would it comes to who's selling out in who's not i just don't. I think it's i think it's apples and oranges like whether or not raw cells at in baltimore i think as zero to do with whether awa sells out in baltimore. If a w runs the temple theater or some wacky place in washington the keyarena once it's open back up again whether or not they sell out i think has nothing to do with whether or not w._b._z.'s cells they're two totally different in products and two totally different audiences mike and he thought i i know that market because it's my market and yeah you're right when raw comes the town they're not. Can i sell out because they're not feeling now. That doesn't mean that there's not a lot of wrestling fans in the market as we see with ring of honor over the last couple of years when when people are feeling it they'll come out to the show. Which is their home promotion when they're not feeling it. They're not going to come out. It's just that simple in for a w. It's the big thing right now all the buzz behind it all of the reasons why everybody all over the place is excited about or those people who are excited about it. That's why they're into it. It's the same way and i and i think the other thing is. There was talk about you know running to close. They may be running to close because d._c. Is there for the first tv taping number one. The market is big enough to handle two. That's no doubt number two. They didn't draw everyone from the market for that. I tv show there are stole a lot of people who are coming in from out of town because it is the first event and that's the other thing when it comes to this pay per view. I think it's going to be less people that are coming in for the t._v. T._v. but there are still going to be people coming in from out of state and it'll be interesting to find out how many people are coming in from outside the areas well too so i think the third time they come come to the area. I think they're still gonna do really well. Especially the second time they come to baltimore which was the first time they do t._v. There as opposed to pay per view but after that yeah that's when it's going to start probably slow and that's when you get a going to be interesting to see how they do try and get some numbers here a little while but it does look like they've already outsold rau- in baltimore so that answers that question does not look like the show is sold out at this point. However looks like people have tried to get tickets at an easier time with this and other shows and i need to know is true front row three grand. Is that true. They were starting at three hundred as somebody said three grand. I need to find out if that's the case. Why are they doing v._i._p. Gimmick and or somebody already scalping it for that friday and these are the platinum tickets although maybe those were scalped apply them to get more votes than break standby. Everybody observer live. What a fly somewhere looking for cheap flights or cheap tickets then then call that's right call. 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You're listening to wrestling observer live with bryan alvarez and mike semper for b. b. on the sports byline broadcasting network all right numbers right now but here's the scoop on these platinum tickets three thousand thousand dollars for the special platinum tickets for the front row butts for the three grand. You get the read pharaoh you get the v._i._p. Lounge you get to take a trip down. The aisle gets a lock that i'll and you get a picture next to the ring as well as some mother perks as well. You feed cutie marchelle apple's so it's not just you do a meet and greet with anybody in there. I do not see meet-and-greet but if i get that info i will let you know what happened there well. He sneezed mike. Let's go to the phones. Don't want anybody throwing up on the air. What's going on there. No cats more babies. Go ahead. You're on the question about though the championship part of the champion sounds like any guidelines and what they're supposed to do with the belts that doesn't get stolen because a lot of rules that comes her talented hitter independent clunky chain the belt to your body ryan everywhere that you go. Did you know that no you think christus festival wednesday driver like like it's impersonal unlike route this because he's got a lot of money. Hey ryan. You're a numskull but let me the answer. Your questions actual answers for questions so the answer. The first question is w._w._e. Has two sets of belts. There is a fancy pristine expensive beautiful belt that they use on television the h._d. Belt gotta look good then. There's a another belt felt that the guys take with them on the road so if you're traveling through the airport you've got your belt. It's not the it's not the number number one belt. It's the number two belt. That's the one that everybody carries with them and do people have lost belts before this is not the first time and it wasn't even like a lost belt. It was just the advantaged paci different from being lost now the other thing. Was this other question at some other goofy question. Nobody remembers now man. That was a compelling called in. What did he ask yesterday about the belt. He asked about <hes> something else it's w._w._e. W. e. but i thought it was more belt related again. I felt like you answered the question. Somebody'll smart me up. Here says that platinum tickets are automatically priced user user resale supposedly demand based <hes>. That's what this person says here and this person says they're being scalped and you read it correctly some of awa. Hey w baltimore tickets are three thousand mostly around ringside which is ridiculous. They are platinum tickets which are priced by demand unsure of the prices set by a._w._s. The order ticketmaster but a lot of events including w. e. do similar pricing tactics. So that sounds to me like this is just a regular thing well. I did see some tweets about some fans upset with the pricing saying hey i thought cody and e w promise lower affordable prices yes and i don't know if they're upset about this particular price point or another one but silly given given the nature of scalping and that it's an industry korean that every time you're online to try to get tickets you're up against an army of scalping bots. It's like any company w. or whomever. Why let the scalpers make money that you're not going to make so if if they are indeed raising some of the prices i don't know that i necessarily blame them but me and maybe it wasn't the smartest martyrised idea to come out and make your price point at your tickets a branding point a i'm not surprised that i don't know you know most of their fan days. I mean they've had a. I don't wanna say wealthy fan base but anybody it's been able to travel like a lotta. People have to these hey w shows i mean they're not curtain and and the average wrestling fan can really do that so i'm sure there are some people sitting on the sidelines that are looking at that who are upset but like that's that's kind of what this whole. Thing is the back what it's been built out. I've been these fans have been able to move like this. That's what the whole the full festival industry is seems to be based based on right now in your selling v._i._p. Package is i mean i used to go to the old man yells at cloud the h._f._s. Will twenty for twenty bucks at r._f._k. Stadium included like you know the all these huge bands in the nineties and stuff now. It's like you know the amount of thousands that you would spend for three days to go to a music festival. That's what these things are built on and their price points for the regular. Show are certainly well in line with what everybody else is doing. It seems to be what was the lowest price was around twenty the bucks i think for w._w._e. House show sometimes they bring those down to nine and stuff like that but i don't even think they do that anymore. It's like thirteen bucks for the cheapest seats in the house and those are always the ones that sell allowed. I so you know they have to have a little bit of everything for everyone and considering this is a new company that is starting out in debt because all new companies do they're putting we just got the guys rich doesn't mean they've made any money yet so these type of things are necessary and even though there are annoying for the average fan. They'll never be able to touch the stuff. That's kind of the way it works. Spurs year says ryan's other question was whether jericho should hire his own personal limo drive. Oh rally is there was a reason. I was gonna answer answer this question. If jericho is living in tampa in his palatial estate and he wants to go to the grocery store then yes if he wants to he can have his zone limo in his own limo driver. That's totally different from what happened here. They were flying to tampa and the flight was diverted to tallahassee. Allah hassi probably because of the potential hurricane the storm so they landed and then they had to get to tampa so so they adages get a local limo company to drive them to tampa. That's how this whole thing started so now. Having a personal limo driver would have done him no good there else. He wants to sit at the longhorn steakhouse while his personal limo driver drives all the way to tallahassee to get him and then drives them all the way back. There's nothing else in either by the way besides a long ornstein make fun of the longhorn steakhouse because it kind of blows dude personnel says ticketmaster platinum axe are kind of like uber surge pricing so for those of you that were in our was wrestlemania new york that that horrible wretched that was referred referred horrible like you could you anywhere for like three bucks and then right when meinie was over. It was like three hundred dollars tuber anywhere. Let's go to the phones. You're on the air. What's going on. Franken for chicago. Has a new thing going does the what was the newsday going six very exciting. What's going on <music>. <hes> two quick dots one of them <hes> recently. Wti has been doing a lot of our focus on their forty years of the inter kind of title and one of the video they've put up as is a thirty minute video with christian randy and ms interviewed by sarah schreiber and my biggest takeaway from that <hes> interview was the fact that in her research she claims <hes> when she was looking at the highest ranking international champions on the internet she said that she consistently saw ms as one of the top champions in the rankings well mrs and eight time champion all only one under the all time leader chris jericho so if you're gonna do goofy list on the internet miss would be one of the most famous and accomplished international champions think they missed something there though they miss the opportunity now that he's back under the employee and the fold of having jeff jarrett there because isn't jeff jarrett the ms chris jericho and christian aren't they the ones with the most icy title rains probably but hey somebody somebody noted i mean it's very clear what's going on right here. Somebody's gotta break jericho's record. That's it absolutely and we got ms versus nach america and up and so and by the way a correction it was nikki bella who broke a._j.'s record nikki bells record still stands. She's in good standing with the company. Yes have done this for years that type of spite it was youngest champion member who was the rock and then quickly it was randy orton or brock lou ever was they every time something like. This happens happens like clockwork. They will figure out a way to try to get a top spurs near says. I think the reason charlotte is mad at rick for threatening legal action and against w._w._e. Over usage of the man is because he's legitimately real life friends with becky lynch well. The issue is not what flared does not want becky to stop being called the man what he wants is a if they're going to call her the man then he wants. Some sort of royalty for that gene wants to be paid something for that because he believes that that's his trademark. That's what's going on and he gets that dividend as opposed to gober ober. I don't know goldberg yeah. You'd bobby heenan the man he said. Why does bobby's a steak at some of this money. Bobby called him dumb man like d._a. I am not only that flair was the man long before goldberg came around yeah but he was the man that you had to beat the become. He didn't say expressly that he was the idea memory rick flair merchandise with the man on it all the time. I'm the man who on the man but it's a he said woo on the man more often than not. I wonder how he's going to take this. Where's the trademark if he provides that then that's okay but but saying it as part of another trademark that doesn't really cut it. I have a recorded promo of ric flair calling me the man so does that transfer to me and i gotta cut the news i yeah but if he calls you called him the man and then he began and calling himself the man but he called me the man so that you transferred to me i as the copyright icy paso so i should get a kind of maybe you should it doesn't that to <hes> to w on the jerry mcdevitt right now for says wait a minute did rick flair ever take the blessing of buddy rogers to use the nature boy nickname if not how can he subic dude hold on a second guys totally hold on a second buddy rogers first off buddy rogers would have had i do have trademarked the man and fought ric flair over it that never happened. They did fighting seventy-nine. They've got in the ring but it's not like buddy. Rogers went went to court instead now. This guy is calling himself. The nature boy not only that though the nature boys actually from a song so he doesn't even belong to buddy rogers and then we bring up the whole thing with scoot andrews bruce with nature boy buddy land dell's got it just becomes well. Hold on a second year someone someone can correct me but if the nature boy is using a song long i believe that you can still trademark yourself as the nature boy for usage in wrestling buddy rogers never did that and so there was never a problem here in second upper floor is not suing becky lynch back in a moment sir life in front. Eh woke all catcher johnny bench for blue. Emu boil is everywhere but not every hemp. Oil product is made the same now introducing blue emu plus hemp oil. Why not trust the blue emu brand that has been the number one selling emu oil brand for over five years blue. Louima plus boyle has been organically grown. It has pesticide-free non g._m._o. 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You're listening to wrestling observer live with bryan alvarez and mike on the sports byline broadcasting network right elber is here a wrestling observer live mike zimmer vivey jim valley joining us here today. I'm going to go to the phones in a moment for four four eleven five four eleven but i got a bunch of texts about this today so here we go. You have an opinion. I never have an opinion on awa announcing bouncing jericho versus cody for the title without any build up or storyline on tv. I know they're in a tough spot with t._v. Not starting another month but it seems premature to announce this match dance with zero story. Does it even matter would love to hear your thoughts well. I had this one today and then. I had another one from somebody else <music> who was upset. I can't even find it here. It matters nice to see this person says an m._v._p. Giving himself an awa title shot already like w._c._w. Kevin nash all over again except that nash was over and he drew in the biz. Wow well let me tell you some facts buddy. If you watch all of these awa shows cody is in the top three of the most over acts on everyone shows that the they've done my wrong. I would join there. I would as number one. He i was there the last couple of shows so the idea that he's not over and he doesn't draw like dude what w. done aside from like the fighter fest and fight for the following which didn't sell out in what way have the top stars v._w. Not drawn way more they would be expected to draw over the last six months and here's the other thing you see new japan being very traditional in their announcing of shows a lot of times like in dallas. They announced the jiwan. They sell some tickets. They announced some of the wrestlers who are going to be on the show. They sell some more tickets. They never really sold a lot of tickets because even running even in los angeles and then in southern california in san jose when they ran shows. They didn't announce the card and i think there's a history of particularly fans in the united states with w._w._e. Booking they're not going to put their money down to buy a pay per view or buy tickets ford event in baltimore without at least the matches announced so are they get make sense that you announced cody and jericho and you announce omega and moxley to get to get those first day ticket sales well. It is the first day ticket sales right here with cody rhodes announced challenging for the title and the show is already outsold raw in baltimore on monday so don't stand here and tell me that cody and here's the other thing about cody cody so our cody kenny omega and the young bucks the four big stars in awa who also happen to be the v._p.'s are they never allowed to challenge for any titles because they're e- v._p.'s is that not allowed like if your evil no probably a bad example but we've been on him lately if you're evil and you're an e._d._p. And you're a tag team guy by that like clearly when you watch the shows. Nobody cares about right now. This is not him giving himself a championship match at the pay per view. It's cody not to mention mentioned. It's a show where wins and losses matter and cody is coming off a string of wins. What do you want animal. I think this guy's a troll but i wanted to throw that in there well. He's you think it's too soon for jericho to lose the title sell spoiler alert. Chances are cody is not winning baltimore. I doubt it specially after what they've done with jericho lately. I don't want that guy ever lose the title kidding me. He's do more of these promos in his palatial mansion. He's in a hot tub wearing a scarf and there's some pinwheel in the back. There's a random pinwheel background. He's he pours himself some but then he puts it aside and drink straight right out of the bottle everything about this. It's like what easter egg after another in this video. Let's go to the phones. You're on the year entertainment caller. What's yeah what's up. Hey guys great what's going on. I know this. It's a bit late but it's about the theme that summer slam all right <hes> whenever i was watching i had a group of friends over and some of them brought their girlfriends and like my sister was watching <hes> and from the time that the themed made his entrance and tell the time that he finally left the lights flashing and his face nobody took their eyes is off the screen once. I'm wondering if he can be the next guy that brings in non wrestling fans 'cause none of them. The girlfriends or my sister have ever watched wrestling before but they all loved him the well. It's hard to say who can be the next guy but there's obviously something that is working with his bray. White character and one of the things is there are so many cookie cutter wrestlers endeavour to me and i'll tell you one thing that the fiend is not. He is not a cookie cutter wrestler. The mask is awesome. The gimmick is great like it is impossible to take. Take your eyes off of this character. Are you asking if he's gonna be the next rock. I doubt it but could he be a big star and w e yeah and he's got a title match at the hell well it is sell show and for all. I know he may win over. There's no bugs on the mat slash championship match one. He thought you guys <hes> anecdotal. Evidence is fun and you know. I'm not surprised that a bunch of wrestling fans who came over that just wanted to hang out with you in wrestling happened to be on a a couldn't take their eyes off the strobe lights and the wacky nece andy crazy horror movie mask and braids and everything of of the fiend so. I'm not really surprised about that now have any legs. We'll see i like bray wyatt. I like the last incarnation of bray wyatt but because of how everything when it got real old real fast and his matches got real old real fast and the longer they went on. They weren't very good. I hope this does work out because it is something different. Different is something new and i think he's a he's a unique character in a unique guy in a business. That really needs him but you know i'm not. I'm still not sold on this yet. I'm still not solved. All the bits are good right now but again. What have they done. How can i believe in anything that they've done but the stories and everything that they've given me over the last god knows how how many years i mean how many of these characters have have rolled out to be anything including his so. I'm not i'm not buying. This yet is he. Some sort of great you know thing to to deal with the w and to bring fans back. The collar sounds like a really cool guy and a really nice guy but here's just a little tip from trained professional probably don't use the phrase the girlfriends friends and my sister on the air don't do him just say the women just say the women that were in the room the females that were watching the ladies yeah say that say that and as as you would say the ladies says ladies. I don't know what it is by the way. I didn't think about this till just now but let me read this one more time. We read it earlier and mike asked a question that i that i blew off but now that i think about it. Maybe there's more to this story. Jeff jeff berlioux of the telecy democrat spoke to forty one year old frank price who said he found the belt as he and his wife were driving home from scalloping with friends. Maybe that was scalping. He's one of these a._w._s. Scalpers what i've got a load of scalloping gallup's alums to get scalped water oyster digging out ever gallup's. Oh like digging clam. Yes interesting. I had not thought it's florida that could be a whole weird sexual term or something to get out of here. There's yeah crystal trips he was he was out getting scallops and okay there. We go thank you. I learned something today brian scalp tonight i it says isn't jericho supposed to defend the belt on the third a w on t._n._t. From philly i yes he is there will be a title match on that show prior to cody. I hope it's against the evil luneau person here says my guess is they do a deputy me non-finish with the finn demon showing up to ruin the fiends title match. Do hell in a cell. I hope they don't do that. I do not need a run in in a cage age match with a roof on the cage the last thing i need okay stopping brian what if during the hell in the cell up magically someone flips the switch and the cage raises up and finn ballard comes in and then stop me if you've heard this before they never explained why the cage was why the case as they do that wife wife they never explain it or hey he comes to the matt. Oh my gosh the classic come through the matt. We are just riffing here. These are good ideas and you liked it. When somebody comes through the man wer me they take the time to rebuild the ring and put a new canvas on and in w w they just tape it up with the duct tape and put an x. there i saw i just saw that this past this week on their show vince russo shell can't believe he didn't just put the cage upside down. Remember nec w and tasr it was a bam bam bigelow tad through the ring and they just put up tape. They put up seen tape and they do that. Don't to be with the crime tape. Once was the only u c w i can't remember. This person here says ray mysterio versus mascara dorada in madison square garden of all places is going to be the best raw match in months well. This has the potential to be the best raw mansion month month those very mental leak well. I think that's the that's right routinely so the other. They've announced that or the other matches sales for monday a._j. Styles versus cedric. I don't know if they've announced that yet. I think they might have which would actually gonna be the pay purview match but apparently they're doing it monday and i guess there's going to be one other match that is yet to be announced so they're stacking the three were three madison square garden to i'm the king of the ring three way yeah it is and also there's a women's match announced. Take you match. I believe it's charlotte charlotte and becky versus bailey and sasha and i was told they've been doing a raw creative meeting all day in vinson's on everybody to be creative. Hey tive whatever that means. Oh man yeah the beatings continue until morale. Alan proves yes. W._b._z.'s nest an update to the schedule for the first two weeks of an exte- on u._s._a. Let me repeat just the first two weeks of this point september eighteen september twenty five the first hour of the show will be on the u._s._a. Network the second hour will be on the w._w._e. Network is only for for the first few weeks honest to god. I have no idea why i mean maybe they figure that they can put x._t. On the network for two weeks and try to sell the network network to people for two weeks by directing them to the network for the second hour then obviously when they go ahead ahead they gotta go two hours ahead. I don't know but that's the decision. They've made so there you go. Here's the rest of your show by the way for monday night. Stone cold steve austin returned to moderate the contract signing between seth and braun and we have a battle of the w._w._e.'s for horse women <hes> with a bailey and sasha banks becky lynch and charlotte flare so there you go tag match. This person says how long are the wrestlers underneath the ring when they need to break through well in the old days case of beer and the old days they went under the ring before the show started and by name would be under there for hours. Yes with a book was for nowadays they will usually do some some sort of deal where the lights go out for some reason or there's this or that and they sneak the person in shortly before they have to come out. Things are much more humane. Nowadays the blue buea more on the platinum tickets. They're effectively tickets at ticketmaster is scalping themselves. They were held back from the initial on sale man. You learn something new every day who a conspiracy between ticketmaster and the people that they are selling the tickets for they do this awesome thing where they they split a bunch of money for selling something with a chair and and what else do you get. <hes> one of shawn spears is <hes> <hes> contact lenses will see it. What else could they possibly have what we try to young buck dollars. Yes young bucks bucks yeah. Those are worth twenty bucks. A piece at this point was a week after imagine a year from now what's worth more with the exchange. Rate is at the okada dollars or as the young bucks. It's dude. It's an auction whenever whenever some crazy person wants to pay for whatever process my this is the actually the same guy that called about the fiend here percents material grand metallic. I want to be excited for this. I really do appreciate minutes with formative commercial break and evan andrade running or something something they get fifteen to seventeen and a clean finish. 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Wrestling observer live mixim v jim valley so jim's not going to be around for as normal saturday show tomorrow so we're gonna do a replay of this show which is going to be pretty bizarre if you're listening right now on saturday but jim where are you going are going to abu dhabi and then do excuse me abu dhabi and dubai yes. I can't believe we sent you there but i'm glad that we did yeah. It's in thank you for paying for the birds. Yes s. seven star hotel. Thank yes yes a little bit out of my my personal <hes> <hes> what is your call. It is palatial mansion. It took a bite out of that that payment but what are you doing there. I would say the website another for the website. I'm just gonna miss. You have seen abu dhabi or landing right. Is it starting but we're just going. It's my wife is a tenth anniversary so we're going to only god tenant tenth anniversary and got married the same year. Wow how long you been married. 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Yeah it was we've been talking for for a few minutes and it is good to know that you are in fact still a person although not an internet person and i am still here still exist. Even though i am a d person cancelled as the left likes to say yes and i know i know you were kicked off twitter. Obviously there and there was the huge thing where you handcuffed yourself to the walls to the the door here in new york city to the twitter headquarters were you. Are you allowed on any other social media platforms have they gotten guiding ban on every single social media platform so i'm pretty much the most banned woman in america <hes> in may facebook and instagram banned me <hes> and declared to be dangerous individual <hes> and so i'm pretty much banned everywhere but it doesn't just stand of course to facebook twitter and instagram. I've been banned by uber uber eats lift. <hes> go fund me then mo pay powell i'm trying to it's so hard it's like i have to keep track. You know it's almost easier to just say the places i time right. Yes else digital studios spring medium. Let's see what else chase chase bank even temporarily shut down access to my online bank account and they've banned <hes> some of my friends as well so it just every so often i get banned somewhere else but the list is growing and growling and <hes> oh periscope as well. I'm bound on periscope. That is the to me out of all of them the banks the banking is like the creepiest part of that because that's really really taking away. Someone's ability to survive. I mean to live in modern society and that in two thousand nineteen america without a access to a bank account that an and also the banks are and i know people can make this argument for social media as well but the banks are straight up government companies. I mean those are there. There's absurd subsidiaries of the federal federal reserve bank. They get all of their money. They'd be out of business if they weren't bailed out by the taxpayer specifically chase and yet they're now allowed to because they disagree with your politics. Check you out or freeze your money or whatever that is man that is orwellian creepy. Yeah it is but this is something that of course is not really getting much media attention as it deserves jobs and it hasn't just happened to me this has happened to several people <hes> chase bank temporarily shut down access to my online bank account but <hes> they've also permanently banned other people including a joepags. She was a veteran of course <hes> my friend enrico cario who's one of the leaders of the proud boys <hes> martina are coda and a few other people people as well so <hes> this is something that is becoming more prevalent and they're using certain individuals as a litmus test said say to see how far they can go because of course you can't just start these bands and implement them on a massive scale without having a lot of pushback resistance from the public but if you do it to certain people and you kind of ease your way in than you can kind of create this culture and society where people accept d platforming and financial blacklisting and just make excuses for it and so now you're seeing a lot of people especially members of the left-wing media defend these these companies for for banning conservatives or implementing policies to prevent conservatives from having access to a certain credit cards are banks. One example was mastercard a few months ago. There was a report that was published that members of antifa and other radical left-wing organizations and some of these left wing watchdog watchdog groups were organizing meetings with <hes> with mastercard to try to influence them to develop some type of advisory panel so so that people could voiced concern over mastercard doing business with certain groups or certain individuals and of course this is all left-wing tweeting left leaning organization saying oh so and so's the nazi or so and so's a big right and <hes> when you look at it really these people who they're accusing of being nazis and bigots and racists aren't really nazis racists or white supremacists. They're just more right leaning in their politics so we're going down a very slippery slope here and yeah that's that's why i wore the yellow jewish star when i handcuffed myself to twitter because this is exactly what happened in the time leading up to the holocaust the holocaust didn't begin then by shoving jewish people into ovens and gas chambers right it began by dehumanizing and ostracizing an entire group of people in society of financially blacklisting acclimating them and enlists right hiller made lists and so when i see left wing organizations like s a._d. L. or you know any of these other groups making lists list of conservatives who ought to be shunned or blacklisted or banned are d- platform. It's very dangerous very dangerous weather doing and this is what the most <hes> even the real hard core elements of the alt-right like the ones who do flirt and some outright are open fascist or nazi sympathizers thighs or whatever the aetna state crowd one of the things they say a lot if you listen to them which i got to say i disagree with a lot of what they say but sometimes they have a little bit of a point and and one of the things they say is that like look the demonizing of white people in america which is really i mean if you go to any college campus except like the five religious conservative conservative ones but any any regular liberal arts college it is so accepted to demonize white people white privilege all all this stuff and they go like okay well if white people are going to be a minority in this country in the future which is like you know the projection saying like twenty years or something like that they're gonna be. Do you think they're all just going to stop once white. People are a minority then they'll be like okay. We've now equalled out the playing field. You guys are a minority. You get minority protection now too. I mean we're looking at time forty years after the civil rights movement they still say it all the historic injustices are still the reason for any inequality so they're just gonna continue to blame white people and it is. It's kind of freaky like what might end up happening in the future sure well you already have <hes> the democrats in congress of course having preparation hearings so this used to be a total meam. You know where people say oh you know they talk about reparations ends but now you have actual members of congress calling for white people in this country <hes> to pay reparations to black people for for slavery and i doubt that even even the more moderate democrats they. I doubt they would have the balls if it was a hands up question the next democratic candidate do you support reparations rations for slavery. I doubt joe biden would have the balls knows it's history happened to you know what happened was joe biden was asked this question a few two years ago about reparations and so the democrats of course because the democrat party has moved so far left. They dug up this old interview in which he made comments saying no. I don't believe that i should have to pay reparations reparations like i'm not responsible for what people before me dead and they were dragging him for it so in the in the days and weeks leading up to the debate you saw people like yeah i think it was cory booker and a few others taking shots at him and they tried to portray a joe biden as as you know as a racist or so even though he was vice president the first black president in america right <hes> so yeah it's already it's already happened and i know there's always like this is always been rhetorically in my whole lifetime. I remember ah you'd always hear people on the left saying the republicans are moving to the right. You always have people on the right thing. The democrats are moving to the left but with the democrats right now. It's really demonstrable like things that obama said ten years ago. If you were to say today would be disqualifying. You'd be done. I mean just obama saying like we need obama said flat out when he was talking about the deportations he said look. Don't send your kids. It's going to be really bad so don't send your kids. We need legal immigration not illegal immigration. He was against gay marriage being legally. I mean if you took any of these positions today. You would the next day drop to like zero in the polls. There's no way you can survive democratic party so i if you want to be a democrat today today you have to be in favor of giving abortions to trans men and providing health care to illegal aliens ninety slept here because he said to trans women in the debate and we were all making fun of it. We were like trans. Women don't have a uterus so wherever you come down on the abortion debate. I don't think they and then he goes no. I misspoke. I i meant trans men so basically what he did was miss gender. He committed the ultimate lefty sin gender he should be fucking bay on twitter and in what i wanna know is like an what world are we living in where you have a debate and then these so-called respected mainstream media pundits just just sit there without challenging him like i was moderating that debate i would have been like julian. What the fuck are you talking about like. Men can't get pregnant but none of them senators and you've got and you've got twenty candidates in the field so everybody's got a kind of separate themselves. You'd think if one person said the most retorted thing that's ever been and said like men should be able to have abortions too that someone else would be like oh. There's an opening for me to score some points but it goes to show you that everyone is terrified of the progressive la. Yes whatever you even like the woke p._c. Crowd which really doesn't make up that big of a percentage of america. It's just that everyone scared of them. It's a weird dynamic right because there's no way they're going to win. A general election saying illegals should get tax payer provided healthcare they they want decriminalize illegal immigration to our country so we're going to have every single person in the world right seven billion people on this planet. Everybody's welcome in america and then the <unk> the american taxpayers taxpayers are just going to pay for. Everybody and it's healthcare to to our veterans right there. Are people in this country like nine eleven first responders who you just testified on the hill with john stewart a couple of weeks ago one of the guys who was standing right next to him just died a few days ago right so why don't we give those people healthcare before we start paying for illegal aliens and people who just want to freeload off of american taxpayers all these free benefits. We can't afford it yeah well. We can't afford it and we can't can't do it. I mean the government is so ineffective as the example you just use just providing for the people he would think would be the first on the list like veterans coming back from war first responders anders on nine eleven. We can't even get that strip and it's not as if even with the open borders argument i can respect at least in theory. There are like some some libertarians friends who will be like look. I think we should abolish the welfare. State and people can can come and go as they please like okay. At least there is an ideological consistency to that but the a._o. A._o._c. wing whose basically saying we should have open borders and the government should provide health care education housing probably six other things. I'm not even thinking of right now. How could that just on paper. How could that possibly work. How could it possibly work if you're going to provide everything for people and decriminalize it <hes> entering the country illegally why wouldn't just millions more people from central america wonderfully who are already flooding logical dave. I mean you're not allowed to electrical. Logical left has an oxymoron okay. You can't talk about those things. Were really it just goes to show the absurdity right. We're living in a time now where we have members of congress who are calling illegal immigrant detention centers concentration camps right we have members of congress who are using their positions to advocate for for members of isis who are trying to kill americans right and i'm talking about the hamas caucus ilhan omar who advocated for nine men who tried to join isis overseas and the media doesn't talk about that's right you have a._f._c. 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What was the ryan budget is going back to two thousand eleven or something like that but it was like the ryan budget and it was such a bullshit like he pretended to be this fiscal conservative. He wasn't at all. It was like we're going to cut thirty billion dollars out of the increase in spending over the next twenty years and the whole media freaked out like this is insane. They were running those ads against mitt romney saying they're pushing grandma off the cliff like we can't afford to cut you know like a little bit in the rate of increase of government spending hey o._c. Will just come out and say we should. I mean straight up her plan was that we're gonna tear down a hundred million buildings and rebuild them to be an you know whatever whatever energy sustainable or carbon-neutral whatever and and the media goes well. She's bold. I mean it's a bowl yes. It is bold to advocate that we turn ourselves into a third world country in the next decade that is bold. It's also insane and it gets almost complete pass right and the same goes for ilhan omar again again. I mean i i don't understand i've been labelled as an islamophobe and called an anti muslim bigot simply for reporting the truth about this insanity and just asking these logical questions like you and many others have asked right. Do you think it's appropriate for somebody to be serving on the foreign affairs committee in congress having access to our classified information formation when she's calling for total defunding and i'm talking about total defunding not one dollars to be given to d h s so you'll know more wants to abolish the department of homeland security and this is the same woman whose prancing around with the council on american islamic relations they designated islamic terrorist organization at their fundraisers describing nine eleven as has something that some people did yeah well. I kind of tend to agree with a balancing the department of homeland security abolishing any government agency on probably on board with the nine eleven thing was a little bit weird. That was pretty weird. Agencies are encompassed in d h s two total defunding. We're not gonna have any border patrol trawl. We're going to have any ice where we're not going to have you know t._s._a. We're not gonna have any of these things that protect us. I mean you can't just fun department of homeland security yeah well. I would say there's look what i would like to do ultimately as privatize everything. Let people cut the complete welfare-state. Let let people at the border protect their own lands but look i. It's a very complicated situation. We already have the government involved in so much of it all right guys. Let's take a quick second. I want to thank our sponsor for today's show our brand new sponsor which is c._t._o. You can check them out at gas digital network dot com slash c._e._o. 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It smell proof and you can automatically grow multiple announces every harvest so for the fourth of july they're offering a cool sale of four hundred and forty four dollars off the cdoe machine so once again go to gas digital network dot com slash saito all right. Let's get back into the show. I am curious areas what you what do you do now like with your career. What do you do now that you've been canceled well. I don't really think of it as being canceled. They say that i am cancelled every single time. They say i'm canceled. I just come back and do something bigger and better. I mean since they said i had been cancelled. I've trended on twitter number number one multiple times without even having twitter account right so you see these left-wingers to <hes> don't really do anything and they get paid to just stop people like me on social media and monitor what more interesting and creative and talented people are doing on social media or on telegram in these other platforms now since we're all cancelled and that's what they get paid to write about right and and they'll they'll say things like oh death of a provocateur. Oh she's she's gone. Her career is over. She's dead but look i handcuffed uncuffed myself to twitter okay i- trended number one in the world above president trump and putin at the summit internationally so clearly <hes> that's not not being canceled right about two months later i went to california when the government was shut down and i put illegal aliens on nancy pelosi's line and set up a a sanctuary on her lawn right and said everyone was welcome there and since she doesn't believe in border security and things that everyone should just be able to come to our house with the illegal aliens and we tried to unlock doors artworks were locked and i tried to number one on twitter again so that's not really being cancelled and the fact that <hes> they think that my abilities and you know my i guess my my creativity and my ability to function in society is just going to be determined men by the limits of that place on me. It's crazy. It just shows you how to tally -tarian and fascist. They actually are while they accuse me of being a fascist right there. They're just projectors and so that's why i went to jack dorsey house of course and what i did is i rented a projector and i've projected the names of all the band conservatives onto onto his house and it was just silent right to just show them their their hypocrisy and how they're projecting their own self worth and their own interpretations and the limitations that they themselves probably have within themselves on me so i'm going to be doing. I'm gonna be doing other things i'm going to be. You're doing other things so you. You've found and you've done several of these big like <hes>. I don't know the word that's coming to. My mind is stunts but i don't mean to say that in an insulting way. Thanks just okay. Okay very good so you did the thing where you went up on the stage play and the handcuffing the twitter this thing nancy pelosi's lawn. Is this kind of your response in a way to them. Trying to shut you up that you kind of can't ignore big gestures like this people are going to talk about them whether or not your twitter is suspended suspended well. You can't yeah right so it is a response in a way but it's it's not just a stunt right. There's always a lot of thought that goes into what i do and it's not just as simple as handcuffing myself to twitter you know you saw that i clearly had people measure of the windows and we had the juxtapose blown up tweets of my tweet in which was banned for calling ilhan omar anti-jewish <hes> next to farrakhan's tweet and <hes> you know there's a lot of thought in detail and i'm very the <hes> kind of meticulous in the way that i go about the messaging and the symbolism and what i do of course <hes> and so i also look at these videos that i make make a way to educate people and expose the left hypocrisy right so you can't say everyone's welcome here and that donald trump is a terrible person because he wants to build a wall and that walls are immoral if your going to literally deport laurel bloomer and her illegal alien amigos off your lawn at your twenty five million dollar mansion chen after they hop your wall right they just look like total hypocrite or there's a there's a there's a real hypocrisy in even the canceled culture. I mean the idea are being that we want to get rid of undesirable people but you're also evil. If you make that argument that you you're not for open borders that you don't want everyone coming in. It's like there's there's a real hypocrisy in that and of course the thing you're pointing to and this is something that just i mean this is to me. The the heart of why donald trump was elected is there. There's this dynamic from the elites particularly the left wing elites but some republican elites as well where you can come out and advocate for gun gun control but you have armed security you can come at an advocate against the wall but you live in a gated community. You advocate and this is the state of california right now. It's all of these rich lefties who advocate proposes that they don't have to feel the brunt of at all yeah i mean the governor california literally press charges against me and tried to have me thrown in jail for fifteen days because because <hes> gavin newsom of course nancy pelosi's nephew a lot of people don't know this but <hes> when he was sworn in as governor of california just a couple of months ago his first <hes> atom of business was to propose legislation to give free healthcare to illegal aliens right not to take care of all the homeless people who are shitting on the sidewalk in san francisco and shooting up the heroine and <hes> you know all the people who are stepping on needles <hes> in in california which is a sanctuary state of course but no he wanted to help the illegal aliens and so when i hopped over his fence at the at the governor's mansion in california and basically had a sanctuary fair wore my son grow and my poncho and whatnot it not me arrested and he literally press charges against me and i had to get an attorney and when you juxtaposed that to his reaction to the murder of kate steinle finally right that that beautiful woman who was murdered by the illegal alien who had been deported multiple times and his lack of response about the officer in california who was murdered richard <hes>. What was it the day before a day after christmas by by the illegal alien <hes> it just goes to show you write these. These people in the democrat party are so far left they care more about illegal aliens aliens and they care about american citizen more about other people than their their own country they care more about helping other people overseas and helping people in their own country very and it's a really dangerous position because the people who do care right all the ban and cancelled people we're all being shut up and silenced and and you know pushed into what i like to call a digital gulag and the only thing that people are really going to then be exposed. You are these radical left-wing ideas and that's very very dangerous for society because you know when you have people who are silenced straight that also breeds radicalization when you start pushing an echo at the chamber of radicalization. You're just asking for violence. That's all you're asking for. Look i agree with you and the point you made about them caring more about the illegals than than american citizens i mean it's like to me even these these even someone like a._o. Saying these are concentration camps look like i look at it like this. It's not that ah you. I don't think the appropriate response is to have no humanity for people who are being held there for people who are fucking escaping from third world countries that are destroyed destroyed and they're they're making this journey all the way through mexico to get here and then they get like put in one of these holding facilities look. I have lots of sympathy for these people. That sucks works in the same way that and i've used this analogy before in the same way if there were three homeless people who asked if they could come stay in my house and i was like no you can't come in here because my my wife and daughter live here. This isn't for you. It doesn't mean i have no sympathy for these guys who are sleeping on the street like that sucks and i hope maybe we can come up with something to help. You guys is there. It's not it's not that i have no but when you hear talk about you know. There's these concentration camps. There's more outrageous psych look in america. We have the largest prison population in the world. Why are you only concerned with this prison population. We fought a war on drugs for forty years. Put a lot of people in jail who in my opinion shouldn't have gone there. There's certainly some people who deserve to be there but lots of people who i would say like like there's no i don't see any any mass push or any priority on like say absolving every non violent drug offenders over the last forty years legal immigrants that all of a sudden they're being held in concentration intrusion camps. It's like well if they are so a lot of american citizens and why is it that we have give preference to them. Yeah it's just it's hypocrisy to and also not another thing that drives me insane. Is you know you see and i keep talking about ilhan elmira but it it just drives me insane this hamas caucus that we currently have in congress because i mean just the hypocrisy that they display and the fact that they get away with it and no one's calling them out on the fact that they're not helping their own communities like relieve aliyu bed early to rise makes a man healthy wealthy and wise and all was benjamin franklin wise so you actually think electric city can pass through metal. Ben franklin go flat excellent idea. What am i keith. Besides the bifocals ben invented the franklin stove domino tom on from the foundation for a better life. Dot com cancers the number one cause of death by disease for children in the u._s. 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Let's look at ilhan omar who has ilhan omar and what did she do the day that she was sworn in while she's took her oath on the koran she refused to be a good american and take her oath on the united states constitution and instead pledged allegiance to sharia law then what she did is she invited. Linda are sore her and rashida to leave invited linda sarsour a world renowned anti semi jihadist as her her special guest okay and nobody said anything about it. They just accepted it because oh no if you call out the fact that it's wrong for a member of congress to invite a woman who literally called for for jihad against the president of the united states as her special guests urine islamaphobia you can't you can't talk about that. Well linda are sore while speaking at a convention. <hes> one of the believers that is not convention in chicago said that her mentor in her favorite person was a guy by the name of sarraj well hush well who's sarraj hodge strategy rasual has well hodge is a co conspirator in the nineteen ninety three world trade center bombing okay <hes>. Did you ever hear about that. New mexico training camp where they were <hes> training training kids to be jihadi school shooters a little kid dead on the on the property and they were having a terrorist attack. Remember that mexico yup well the guy who was arrested for running. I'm not training camp. That was his son. Okay that was his son and linda sarsour said that her favorite person was sarraj maharidge. His son and two of his is other children were arrested on this compound for planning to attack the atlanta grady hospital they were planning to commit a terrorist attack in atlanta okay and and they were training little kids to jihadi school shooters they were giving children guns with the intent of sending them into schools to murder innocent americans and this is who she invited as her special guests well so if you look at my journalism for some of the stuff that <hes> i expose supposed one of the things was suraj. Hodge openly called for the killing of homosexuals well. He's on video. He's on tape. It's on my youtube channel calling for homosexuals to be killed talking about how islam you should kill gay people okay and who is this guy. He's also the lead fundraiser for care the council on american. There's like relations invites the sky to raise hundreds of thousands of dollars for them okay and he has spoken at the same fundraisers ilhan omar so how's ilhan omar going to who position herself as a champion for the l._g._b._t._q. Community and say that she cares about this country when she is literally fundraising and hanging out with a guy hi who openly called for the killing of homosexuals and you you send the stuff to the media and they just ignore you but then they call me a bigot. I care more about gay people in disenfranchise the people in this country i care more about minorities than any of these people on the left serving in congress and yeah i've been branded as a white supremacist and neo-nazi and a racist and the the most horrible things have been said about me and most people think i'm some crazy person or some evil person just based off of what people said to me and when reporters interview me or asked me for comment and i bring this up to them they don't care. They don't include this in there. They're not interested in the fact. The ilhan omar by one degree of separation is tied to a guy who was planning to commit a terrorist attack doc in this country right. They don't care that she pows around with and hangs out with a guy who thinks we should kill homosexuals right. They don't care about the fact that she's advocating. Take for members of isis or that. She married her brother. You know a double standard to donald gender because donald trump if he's endorsed by anybody <unk> who david duke likes donald trump they brought this up over and over and the first time they asked trump he's like yeah. I don't know david duke no interest in i don't care but even when there's no relation there just the shit with illinois omar her the tax stuff yeah this is did you. I was in minnesota. This is why i'm so pissed about all of the platform and that's the reason i am band is because i said on omar's anti-jewish that's the tweet got banned on twitter so calling it was the anti calling eleanor anti-jewish is the tweet that got me band and they said that was hate speech but then meanwhile like ilhan omar of course what is the first thing she did when she was sworn in as a member we're congress. She takes her twitter account. Just say all these nasty comments about jewish people prompting nancy pelosi herself to have omar apologize for what she called blatant. Ah anti-semitic remarks so i'm banned for posting facts and being a good investigative journalist yeah well last last year i traveled to minnesota and i was on the ground and i was doing an extensive investigation into a jihadi candidates running for office in minnesota and this was when the whole metoo movement was happening right and while they were busy busy attacking conservatives and you had all these remember the big rallies they had in new york city and they had all these women go protest a me too stuff at trump tower <hes> because the president trump while you know meanwhile the deputy chair of the d._n._c. at the time was keith ellison who was running to be the attorney general and i had the police report and the medical records from two of his ex girlfriend's <hes> showing that he committed acts of domestic violence against them like literally beat the shit <unk> out of these women didn't he also right. I know there were those to those charges and then wasn't he didn't he also hold the antesa. Thanks so i was able to break several stories about the fact that he was hanging out with members of antifa who had committed acts of violence and he endorsed antifa and they didn't even care that their own deputy chair was beating women in minnesota but there are talking president attacking conservatives and while all i was in minnesota confronted ilhan omar this was when she had eighteen thousand followers on twitter now she has like a million followers and i asked her on camera i said why did you marry your brother. You know it's a crime in this country mary brother it's immigration fraud. You can't use campaign funds to pay for your divorce from your brother. You know you you committed fraud on your on your taxes. <hes> your fundraising and endorsed by care terrorist organization. Why do you hate us. Why do you hate israel and what the media i. I kid you not the the star tribune. Which is the local paper in minnesota. They printed in the paper. The next day that i was a white supremacist targeting muslims running for office and fast forward a year and literally early everything i said turned out to be true. I mean you saw last week right. Everyone's talking about you'll hanauma marrying her brother yeah the tax with they filed a joint tax tax return together which is weird so i am i band why why does the left have such a hard on for cancelling me and getting me banned. It just really makes you wonder doesn't it. They say i'm a bigot. Get but how am i a bigot for standing up for battered women. How am i a bigot for standing up for homosexuals. Why am i a bigot eggett for standing up for the jewish community and the christian community and people who are targets of sharia law. Why am i a bigot or a white supremacist for being against. There's lama terrorism well. You're not a very good <hes> white supremacist. If you're supporting israel does what i've that's what i've come to learn zionist too. That's why the all right hates me because they're white zionists they're. They're they want their own ethnic state right but that's another form of hypocrisy too in the sense that <hes> you know people rag on members of the outright for saying oh we want an ethnic state but then what is the middle east you know what i what is the middle east when you have when you have majority muslim countries and you have these muslim countries that won't allow for religious tolerance. You can't go to the middle east. You can't go to saudi arabia and say oh. I have a dog kurt. Why is it that the muslims are allowed to have their ethnos state. Yeah no it was certainly we a kinder ethno state if they are then saudi arabia attack white people right. It's very long right. How islam is is totally off limits. Let's and even countries like japan and stuff like that with their immigration policies. I mean there are country for japanese people and it doesn't with that it doesn't i mean i mean look to me. My main problem and i talked about this when i had richard spencer on the show years ago but the main problem for me with the idea of an ethnic state in america is like look feel how you feel l. All these minorities are here now and you're not gonna go around just removing millions of minorities but i said to him. I was like if you guys wanted to go to some area like montana or something like like that where it's mostly white and buy up a whole bunch of land and do it through libertarian means like you own the land. You don't want to let other people go. I'm not really morally opposed to it. I don't particularly want to be there but like i don't think it's evil thing ever but of course this is the hypocrisy and and and that's kind of the through line and a lot of what we're talking about here is just the blatant in hypocrisy and i think the antifa issue is where that gets seen where that's on display for the public more than any other issue all right guys. Let's take a quick second. Thank our sponsor for today's show which is heavy socks. You can go grab some heavy socks dot com of course as you know by now. These are the most comfortable kick ass fashion socks for work or play. I love them. I own like twelve pairs. At this point. They're great. They work with dress shoes or sneakers. The most comfortable socks they look great. They have wide variety of colors and styles that ankles basics fashion socks. Everything's a fit your need so go to sox dot com. That's h. E. s. h. i. Socks sox dot com and use the promo code problem thirty. 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It's a verse so he's he's a muslim of course he's the first muslim attorney general and there's this alliance to between between the left and his lemon this country three and even antifa you see the f._b._i. Has confirmed that members of antifa have been traveling overseas to syria training with isis so <hes> <hes> this is a very serious issue and you can't talk about this stuff or else. You're called i-islamic sober your call the bigot and just last week there was a report that came now on big league politics about how <hes> there was a video that showed members of antifa chanting allah llahu akbar smash nazi scum clearly being radicalized right. They're clearly getting militant training from jihadist okay. This is not just a counter protest movement okay. This isn't just some scrawny left wing kids who are angry that that hillary clinton lost the election. Okay these are people who are training training to be domestic terrorists their training with international islamic terrorist organizations and the media has been reluctant and reporting or or even condemning it because for the media to say that they're anti antifa is to be like oh well that must mean that i'm pro-trump right so you can't ever see johny journalists come out and say yeah antifa domestic terrorist organization antigua's wrong they <hes> they always have to justify it in some sense yeah and there's i mean it's it's like the the obvious double standard that if trump or any republican were to like hold up some right literature and be like i endorse this this should strike fear into the i mean it'd be. It'd be the biggest story if what happened to andy no happened at a trump rally. If some little gay minority was just beat up up by fifteen people at a trump rally it would literally be all. We'd talk about for the next five years. It would be like the biggest story really speaking. I i was on <hes> on a c._n._n. Panel like years ago and i brought up <hes> thoughts and prayers yeah it was it didn't go over so yeah well but a lot of fun with it but they gave us this story that we are allowed to pick our own story at the end and i talked about antifa it was this was like two years ago and it was after some i forget the specific specific event but it was like some antifa than where they did what they do and i was like this is like this is insane that this isn't getting more media coverage. There's this borderline terrorist group that goes around assaulting anybody who wants to have a pro free speech rally a pro-trump they come to try to shut it down by force and the woman next to me. She then goes almost most to speak for me. She goes she goes that is wrong. Anyone using violence is wrong but just so we're clear. We're not equating fascists with anti-fascists and i was like no no. I am equating them. In fact i'm saying they're just as bad. That's exactly my point. These are communists fashion strip with hammer and sickle flags. It's like are you saying oh. Equating communists with the nazis is unfit like no. They're all evil. They all were genocidal. Horrific groups like i said that too. Because have you ever noticed how deranged the left is in the sense that they think that calling somebody a nazi is worse than calling somebody a communist right. It's insane. I mean let's let's have a history lesson. How many people have been killed by the nazis. Yeah i mean people eleven twelve million. Maybe total yeah i mean i mean it depends on how much of the war communist ask over around one hundred million one hundred million and counting and there's so many people killed by by communism that when you'll see those estimates it'll be like eighty detour one hundred million like the gap of the estimate is more than what the nazis killed array area typo see people say that before like oh you must is have a typo because they just can't believe it but so it really goes to show you. Why is it acceptable in society for politicians to say that they are openly communist the communist party of america. They have endorsed a._f._c. They have endorsed ilhan omar. They endorsed keith ellison. They endorsed <hes> rashida to leap okay. They endorse source. All these radical left-wing people have positions of power in our you're listening to the heartland us feed radio network at live dot hotlanta all land use fee dot com. 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Dot com to help you achieve that sixty two zero breaking formats you deserve and expect from brito rimbaud's the choice of champions and consumers for for over fifty years who are communist but then these people who are walking around with hammer and sickles and saying that they're proud communists and proud members of antifa diva are saying smash nazi scum and they're trying to say that people who they think are nazis who aren't even nazis are somehow worse than communist genus right and i'm not trying to say like you know. Nazis are better than communist but it's interesting that that will all thing that calling somebody a nazi is is is worse than or being called a nazi as worse than self identifying as a communist know your look your i completely agree with breath. They're both horrible there. They were the two worst ideologies of the twentieth century. They're both responsible for millions and millions of deaths but it's hard to not notice notice that in our society you could be tenured college professor and call yourself a marxist but if you were a tenured college professor and you call yourself a fascist you you'd be you gone the next day it would be this huge. It just doesn't exist. It's actually beyond the pale of even imagining a college professor who is ii. I identify as a fascist i you can't and if you're looking at the group's if you're judging the alt-right and judging antifa and say this is someone who's a jew who's no fan of the the alt-right. There's no debate antigua's way worse their way worse like the alt-right guys are saying some things on podcasts. They've got some youtube channels for the ones who haven't been kicked off yet. They've got like a few things they now there was this one woman who was killed charlottesville in the middle of madness sadness of event where we're antiga on one side that greatly outnumbered the right. There was fucking people being on both sides they did. This guy by the way just got life in jail. It's not like it's not as if he's just like walking. Free antifa on the other hand shows up to every event that anyone they don't like that and start just fucking assaulting people like the i'm sorry it's not as if bernie sanders wants to go to campaign rally somewhere it's not like ultra guys are showing up and beating people up there like but on the flip side they are alt-right us not violent okay and so i know saying this people will say oh well. What about charlottesville lord. What about charlottesville. What does your hair well yeah. What about charlottesville. Let's talk about police accountability to and government accountability. Let's talk about the fact that the governor asked for the police to stand down okay so when you're having law enforcement stand down like they did in portland too because this asshole liberal mayor said that he don't want police getting involved and now andy handy no has a brain hemorrhage okay and all these innocent people are getting attacked and having their businesses destroyed because the police have been told that they can't they can't suppress antifa okay well of course you're going to have violence right. You're gonna have violence because people have a right to defend themselves and so you have these alright. People who show up and i'm jewish i don't outright doesn't like me but they have a right to free speech just as much as anyone else does and to be honest the the event in charlottesville didn't get violent until antifa antifa showed up and started attacking those people they were waving flags and they were saying very offensive things right things that obviously don't support. I mean things like jews want to replace us and gas the jews. I mean they were saying very terrible things but in this country right you still have a right to say those things you may not wanna hear them but we have free speech and anti gets crazy and then someone ends up getting killed but of course it's the conservatives or the outright people as they say that the get blamed for this and then the the media forces president trump to address it they hound him with questions okay and <hes> and they try to paint donald trump sympathizer to charlottesville and they they spread this entire media hoax accusing him of saying oh. There's very fine people on both sides of the aisle something. It never happens yeah. I just recently re watch. That video posted online. It's i actually was blown away because it was clearer than i even remembered it being being like i remembered it being like oh he said that and then you could have a good interpretation of it or a bad interpretation of it but actually he spelled it out completely clearly that he was saying on the issue of tearing down statues. You had very fine people on both sides of that that he was basically saying there are some good people who are arguing. We should tear hair down these statues because they represent racism and then there's also some really good people who are like no this is our our heritage and then the next report rate after a reporter asked him a follow up question and and so are you saying there were good people on both sides of the charlottesville thing and he specifically goes no. I was saying he goes. I'm not calling any neo nazis. Good people like he. He was very clear about that and look all you have to do is run the counterfactual and be honest with yourself if antifa look the charlottesville guys. I feel however you feel about them. They went through the proper legal channels. They got a permit to speak and hold this rally. If the antifa guys hadn't shown up what would it happened there. They would have given their speeches. They would have said what they had to say. They would have gone to burger king afterward and gone home. That's all that would have happened if let's say no antifa got showed showed up. There was no conflict and a few reporters came. These guys are actually quite happy to talk to the reporters. You can disagree with all their shit but they love to spew it. They love violent lanes. Either i mean richard. Spencer saw me one time in d._c. And he actually sat down next to me. I was at the trump international and this was <hes> <hes> like a year and a half ago or something and he walks in and he sees me sitting there and he walks over and he sits down exa me right and you had a conversation and obviously i was turned off because i didn't really want to talk to richard spencer much but i listen to what he had to say and he was nice to me right. I'm not saying i agree with richard spencer. Obviously i don't but you can have conversations with people who you don't agree with and surprisingly you know you can do it without beating somebody over the head with a crowbar. Oh bar yeah right. I mean it's it's really insane how they try to justify antique as violence simply by saying oh well richard spencer can't weller all these other dudes on the outright have pretty controversial views like it doesn't matter if their views are controversial you don't go around smacking people over the head with crowbars attacking them right when i show up to political events and confront politicians and ask them about their ties to terrorism. I asked them peacefully with with with my voice. I don't show up with weapons and try to attack people and so it's dangerous how the media is trying to normalize this and i'm experiencing it right now because i'm supposed to be speaking in d._c. This weekend for free speech rally the demand free speech rally ali and already antifa is talking about how they're gonna show up and attack all the victims and they were threatening to throw acid on some of us and milo is going to be there. Roger stone's going to be there. Will we speaking and <hes> it's expected to be a very big event and last night this <hes>. There's this video that was recorded. I guess at one of the on t._v. D._c. meetings and they were literally having a hitless meeting. They were showing pictures and reading bio's of all the people who were speaking including myself and and saying all right well. This is our our attack plan. You guys and we're going to have another one. We're going to have a training camp a training camp you know who else uses the term training camp to discuss their activities before they attack isis right so i mean and this is very dangerous stuff that is happening in this country and the media of course what will they do if things get violent this weekend at this free speech rally. I'll just blame proud boys. They'll say something like what they say after the andy no oh thank they'll be like even if they were to like say. The violence is bad. It'll like right wing provocateurs you know with they're heinous views okay the violence is bad but so they kind of make it like a watch like well you kind of provoked them but look say after a while when you think about this stuff where i start to go with it as like why what's wrong with the fucking republicans man 'cause that's like really joe biden you see his first campaign video was was charlottesville charlottesville and look as ridiculous as that is a lot of it is because joe biden has nothing to offer today's democratic fields which is why he's going to crash and burn contain a white man no intersection points. He's gonna socialist point. He's got nothing for them. That's he's not winning this thing. There's no away he's already dropping in the polls since that bad debate performance he's also old and slow and just not good at politics but he brings up charlottesville and strategically you understand why he would do that because here's the thing charlottesville was if their goal was to unite the right. It was fucking retarded. It was the worst thing for the goal of uniting fighting the right. The truth is that most americans see people holding swastikas see people's chanting the jews will not replace us and they go yeah. We're not really with that. It was a great publicity stunt for the left now. I don't think it will be recognized by the left. No one wants to talk about occupy wall guy jason jason kessler who claim to be the organizer of the unite the right it was a total sioe up to screw the conservative movement because they put the word right in their first of all those guys who are in the all right. I would not say that they're conservative by any means whatsoever even richard spencer when he was doing an interview with the national sousa was forced to admit that national socialism and he considers himself to be the national socialism social. It's a left wing ideology so when when the left calls conservatives nazis like wrong word okay nazism has historically gli always been a left wing ideology so we always had more in common with democrats voted for obama. Jason kessler was a was a democrat. He was never a conservative conservative and so they found this guy who knows whether he was paid. Who knows like you know what type of people were involved. Whether feds were involved. Who knows you know i. I'm not saying that that this was some type of deep state operation but don't you find it a little weird how the organizer of the unite the right rally used to be an obama supporter of course. You never hear that don c._n._n. Here about the fact that he was at occupy wall street or the fact that he didn't even like president trump he didn't even vote for president trump but then this is somehow president trump's fall yeah yeah it it certainly at least leads to some important questions that that should that should be sought after but my point of this is like so okay republicans if you see joe biden doing this. Why are you not talking about antique every single day. This is a clear winner. You think like this should be every single. Trump campaign ad should have these antifa maniacs and going like you want this. Is this what you want. America people waving commie flags beating beating people up our guys. Let's take a quick second. I wanna tell you about our sponsor for today's show which is infinite c._b._d. Of course you know infinite c._b._d. Offers the cleanest healthiest first and purest form of c._b._d. Available anywhere c._b._d. Gives you all the benefits of marijuana without getting you high. 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Let's get back into the show you know there were a couple of clips where <hes> where sern of it when when he got into the white house press which he was the yeah which by the way is just amazing that he got in there at all but he would just ask over and over over again about two things he'd asked about trump supporters being being assaulted right-wingers being assaulted by antifa types and now press censorship and are not presented centrist social media censorship and just as every single day. I don't understand for the life of me. Why donald trump doesn't make that his entire campaign and this is where republicans really and that's why i gave you the hat i ask because that's part of my initiative and look i mean i completely agree with you so i've been saying this. If donald trump wants to <hes> and i think he's gonna win right on him again. Obviously and i <hes> you know your who knows maybe over for him to. It sounds like you're not going to be voting for any of these but you can't say that because then you're gonna get cancelled to dave's dave cancelled control blessed i'll tell you here's the thing as crazy as the democrats are. The best pitch that donald trump made to win. Someone's vote like me was is just about when at his first campaign rallied he said imagine what the country will look like if the democrats take over and i think there's a strong pitch their truthfully speaking donald trump. I'm more more than anything else. The thing that i liked about donald trump's campaign in two thousand sixteen was the promised to end these wars. I think it's insane. We spent trillions of dollars. Kill hundreds of thousands of people with this goal of remaking the middle east into a jeffersonian republic which is just insane and the what trump's done leaving the troops in afghanistan in syria aiding the saudis in this war in yemen. It's too much for me to be able to support the guy i think then having having john bolton and mike pompeo all these guys in his cabinet however i would say i wouldn't mind seeing seeing donald trump beat whoever the radical democrat who he's up against is gonna and he probably will win. I just don't understand this antifa issue as he is. It's a forty nine state landslide landslide issue causing social media censorship too because even people who are democrat right when i talked to people because a lot of people they have misconceptions about me and then they talk to me and then they realized you know she's not all that bad when i mentioned to them that pay pal banned me and that chase bank down my online access and that the democrats are pushing this and you have. I don't know if you saw this but frederica wilson who is a congresswoman of course the other day she called for she literally said that she was not joking. You could look up the video. It's on video. 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L._l._c. said anyone who criticizes a member of congress should be censored prosecuted and thrown in jail so pack your bags. We're sending you to the log log dave because anybody who makes a joke about a._f._c. or any of these other politicians is going to be cancelled and imprisoned for the rest of their life that is literally what what she said so we're at a point now where you have members of congress people who have the authority to be voting on legislation and mind you the democrats control the house okay. This is how scary this is. They control the house and they're coming together to say. Let's look people up for posting memes about nancy pelosi. Let's lock people up for making jokes about a._f._c. Let's let's lock people up for posting about islam right. I it's it's really scary and that's why of course i've been doing so much work to raise awareness about the tech censorship and all of the social media bias against conservatives because it's a civil rights violation. It's not even just a free speech issue anymore right. We're at a point where people are being denied service when they go out to eat. People are being mm physically attacked in public. They're being blacklisted by their banks okay. They're being <hes> you know. They're being told that they can't participate in certain places. People are scared to leave their home because they're worried. They're going to get attacked okay. It's really reached a critical point in this country and i think that donald trump automates social media censorship and and <hes> antifa like you said some of his top two campaign issues because look hillary clinton she could've been president. You know <unk> her her vice presidential candidate tim kaine. Did you know that his son while hillary clinton was running for president was arrested in minnesota because his son is a member number of antifa so the guy who the media and the democrat party wanted to be the vice president of this of this country. His son was an active member of antifa not who was arrested for assaulting trump supporters and he was planning to set off a gas bomb inside the minnesota state capital of tim kaine so i took cook his sons mugshot and i went to one of his events in in virginia and i showed up and i shoved his sons got in his face and said hey you no <hes> senator kaine. You said that <hes> antifa was energetic activism. That's what you described is and you said that we needed more antifa he on video saying that he is pro antifa. A journalist asked him to condemn it. He refused to because obviously his son woody. Kane is a member of antifa and he called it energetic activism. I mean this guy could have been the vice president of the united states and he openly support santita. He's got one of these thugs living under his roof so people people need to wake up and realize like this isn't just some fringe movement. There are people who are tied to individuals in our government who are making serious decisions people who could have been in the white house. Are we literally dodged a bullet but when you have keith ellison he's the leading a law enforcement officer in minnesota as attorney general okay making the rules he endorsed antifa and the son of what was the democrat party and really what everyone thought. Everyone thought hillary was gonna win. I always thought trump would win you. Now i always did i always i always supported trump from day one but you could potentially have antifa in the white house right because i'm sure tim caine wouldn't invite his family hannah sign and take a picture in the oval office with hillary. I mean this is a wakeup call. I think people really serious. I agree with you but i guess i just kind of wonder why the i mean it's not just like mitt. Romney and marco rubio both defended antifa that mitt romney said others you can never fascists and those who stand up against them and saying antifa because basically taking on the republican. I'll admit we got a lot of pussies in the republican party and a lot of people who need to be removed from office and replaced with a better republicans or people who are actually going to stand up and fight for americans in this country okay people who are going to get behind the president and not allow their petty partisan artisan bullshit against the president to allow them to make these weird takes like like there's fascists and then there's antifascists people who stand up against nazis right. I mean we need we need. We need to get rid of politicians on both sides of the aisle who are just comfortable being career politicians having you know their their government healthcare healthcare and cover comfortable having their six figure salaries on their private transportation and all the nice benefits they enjoy as as members of our government because because they're not serving the american people and things are about to get very real. They're about to be very violent. The american people shouldn't be scared of speaking their mind than public because of fear of having an acid a balloon thrown in their face. People shouldn't have to worry about getting beaten over the head by a crowbar okay. They shouldn't have to worry about <hes> you know they're they're congressman <hes> inciting <hes> moslems and and and communist to attack trump supporters right they shouldn't have to worry about about people like maxine waters encouraging the democrats to attack and harass trump supporters out in public which is something that she did and when i confronted her about it. She slapped me in the face. Maxine waters slapped you in the what i chased her into the elevator. In congress the day after that story broke about when she was like gasoline selene and i chase her into the elevator and i said maxine where conservatives supposed to eat here in dc are we supposed to sit at the back of the bus and she she got her paper and slap me in the face and i actually press charges against her <hes> and follow the police report and the dc police and do anything about it and you could look it up online reports had i sent it to all the mainstream media outlets <hes> i sent it to ethics committees. I sent it to other members of congress and ask them to look into you. Just silence right. Why isn't the republican party. Coming out and calling for maxine waters to be held accountable for assaulting a civilian rashida to leave. She also assaulted salted me. She grabbed my phone and tried to break it and steal it when i asked her to condemn hamas terrorist organization which she supports okay am am band and she's in congress. This is the insanity that we're living in that that is pretty crazy the the state of our country right now. Do you think that a lot of people if it wasn't for this craziness on the left that a lot of trump supporters might be a little dissatisfied with him because i know i've seen a lot i know ann coulter is like furious at donald trump every other day on twitter. I know the alt-right pretty much abandoned donald trump i mean some of them may be still like they can but i think there's a lot of trump supporters who are kind of if it wasn't for this craziness on the left might be kind of like. I don't know you promised to take care of this immigration thing. It's kind of worse than ever use. It look at the border apprehension numbers. It's been insane for the last few months hundreds of thousands a month and that's just who's babri because you have you have you have politicians in the united states using their campaign funds to fund the caravan toss caught them on his campaign on camera using using their funds to fund illegal aliens and then you have governors like gavin newsom going overseas guava guatemala el salvador and saying thank come here come here. This is why right and these people need to be held accountable. I don't understand why why republicans in congress or republican senators are not calling calling for these democrat politicians to be arrested and jailed for the crimes. They're committing right. It's a crime to do that. You can't use your campaign funds to fund illegal alien <hes> invasions invasions into our country okay you can't you can't go as a sitting governor overseas to <hes> to el salvador until illegal aliens aliens some of whom are tied to m._s. Thirteen and there are members of isis in these caravans telling them to come into our country illegally that is against the oath that they take right right but there's no accountability in washington the things that you used to have to resign for probably like ten or fifteen years ago right forget about it. People are running wild and congress congress now th- there's no accountability and there's only so much president trump can do right. He is one man he's the president but at the end of the day like we need a functioning actioning house as well right. We need a functioning congress and it's totally dysfunctional right. Doesn't it kind of don't don't you start to think that maybe the immigration thing thing is just hopeless then from the perspective of wanting to control wanting to have some type of strict immigration control. I mean you had a guy like donald trump. Who ran was completely lately out of left field. Not one of the key even supposed to be one of the candidates had no big money behind. 'em came in this was it was an issue that really no one else was talking about. He made it his central campaign issue was we're going to deal with this immigration stuff. This was the i mean you had other issues but this was the central issue he wins so the the american people voted for by a slim margin but they voted for this for immigration control and still the now. I ah you're right. 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S2E7 - Some questions to ponder

Cup of Tao

13:58 min | 1 year ago

S2E7 - Some questions to ponder

"Today. I get into some more Galust philosophy as it can be applied to modern times. This is season. Two episode seven some questions to ponder today. I want to get your mind working not to be cryptic or layouts. Who like, but just to question, your resolve and open your mind? For the question of today. I'm going to be doing something different. I have a grab bag of some questions that I've been asked I'm gonna put forth some of my responses. It's a show that you don't wanna miss today on Cup of Dow starting right now. Coupla Dow with your host, Chris L McLeish Chris's a man with many roles many journeys in one spirit. Hello. How you doing today? I'm doing okay today. I'm gonna talk about some questions to ponder we know that humans are relatively new species. We see evidence of human stating back. What may be three hundred thousand years, we are small particles on a planet a planet that is like a speck of dust in comparison to the vast cosmos, we know that homo sapiens, evolved from other similar genus and species yet, we rarely find in between some of these. We don't see evidence of an interbred species, we find homo sapiens, living along other types of quote humans. We have systems within our own body microscopic entity within our body such as virus can kill us. We overvalue the brain as being the God of our body, the primary leader. Yet. We couldn't survive without a heart or liver. We couldn't survive if our tiny white blood cells were overpowered by the virus. What if every fabric of the cosmos all existence was interdependent on each other part? No matter how smaller large. What if instead of one governing agent complete interdependence? What if our existence was somehow tied to all that? Just as a fish in the ocean may never know outer space way above what if we can only scratch the surface of what can be known. What if the Dow was always a step ahead of us? When we think we have a mathematical formula that explains something and then later, we find a greater explanation to a problem in physics or quantum physics. What happens later when phenomenon happens that poses an exception in invalidates our latest and greatest explanation that is until we develop yet another better explanation. Right. You ever wonder if we glimpse interconnected multi versus in which things like you space craft Bigfoot ghost heaven reincarnation and many other paranormal phenomenon can coexist in the same way that life can be a comedy and tragedy. All at once. We may get glimpses of something greater, but what if those were just small bits of something are tiny brains could not begin to understand. Darrelle is a great mystery. That's why the Dow that can be told or verbalised is not really the Dow. Our brains are limited data may prevent us from ever being fully on top of it. All. Now, I'm not trying to be cryptic today. Not trying to be like layout SU I'm legitimately asking you to ponder on these things I mentioned in consider that maybe the best we can do with theoretical explanations for our selves yet as I've mentioned before to not fully marry our theories. To recognize as well. But there is just much out there that we just can't answer regardless of whether we spend years on a mountain carrying buckets of water in being trained by TAOs master. We may still have no better understanding of the Dow than anyone else. This is not to say that everyone who claims to understand the Dow can. Who am I I'm not someone who can give you all the answers that you want? I offer some things for you, which you are free to ponder accept or reject. Maybe I can be whatever you need to be at this particular time in your life. I can be the voice that you reject or it can be the voice of concerned fellow traveler on the way, whatever you need. Maybe I can say a little bit more about this. After the question of today time for the question of today. Today. I'm gonna go through many questions that been asked either in person or by Email or over the phone in various other ways have been asked these. I'm just going to give you some of my general responses the first question is kinda like a group of questions that come together like how can I deal with? And then there's a problem, for example. How can I deal with my dicta teenager, or how can I deal with a loss that I recently faced realize that faith equals hope plus effort? And sometimes either without the other seems incomplete as the serenity prayer says gotta do what you can. But realize that sometimes all you can do is all you can do and you have to let the rest go also realize that sometimes there's no writing answers what works for one person or family member might not work for other. So there's not this one key that fits every lock. Another question that I've been asked what are the practical differences between an atheist and a Taoist Dallas sees order in intelligence along with certain natural laws an atheist usually sees randomness chaos and only futility both may be motivated to do more self reliant activties to find. Meaning the Dallas tries not to go against the grain and respects nature along with striving for what's called the jewels of Taoism, compassion moderation. And humility the Dallas sees beyond the manifestations in sees the structure in order. Can daoist believe in heaven. Yes. Or reincarnation or even a deity? I would venture to say that most Dallas don't hold the notion that God is a man with a flowing beard sitting in a city a gold where everyone walks around who's thirty years old as a daoist, you're free to believe. However, you want to about afterlife or deity. Another question are Dallas lazy for some reason spontaneity, and we we have resulted in western views of Dallas and being acquitted a lazy people who don't wanna do anything. I typically try to explain it with a wine from Garowe condo, the founder of judo. Goro says or he talks about maximum efficiency with minimal effort. This means no more effort than what is needed. It's kind of conservation of energy along with using our intuition as guide our skills. Some people spend their lives spending too much time being busy and letting real life and things that really matter pass them by and I've been guilty of that another question why is there evil in the world? Also, why do bad things happen to me or people that I care about? Those who are solely Christian would say that evil happens because of free will or the devil Buddhists may point out karma. And also that life is suffering the new age law attraction folks may say that we attract good in our lives or we attract the evil. I say that we know the bad because of what is good. If we didn't have the good we wouldn't never be able to recognize the bad. As far as pain suffering and calamity. Life is unfair. It rains on the just and the Justice layouts says. Life is what we may consider good and bad, depending on our circumstances. But those aren't necessarily equally distributed for every person. Remember, I definition of faith faith is hope plus effort, you hope and you pray for a desirable outcome, and you put what efforts you can into that outcome, but the rest is up to life. Along with that question. What if I put effort and bad things still happen? Life is full risk. I can exercise every day in the hope that I will not die from heart failure. I can also eat well, and I can be positive. I can hope or even pray along with my effort yet. There are no guarantees. Someone else may wake up eat jelly donuts. Every day not exercise chain smoke. Instill outlive me. But I would rather die trying than fall into despair. Are just a few of the questions that I've received if you think of any questions you want answered keep sending your questions and let me know if you want your question featured on the show also include your name and the city and country that you live in. I hope that you keep on. I will not say fighting because many of you know, that words kind of to me seems like it sets life or even conditions. We have is being our enemy. But I want you to keep on following the path. Sting in harmony with the way. When you find yourself slipping off the road pull yourself back on but remember whether Roeder grass, it's all Dow. At some point. I remind voice in this podcast will just be a distant memory in your life. But I'm thankful to be with you here. Now, thanks for allowing me into your life. I'll see next week. But before I let you go. I have a few messages be sure purchase my book accepting life on life's times. Dow is psychology for today's uncertain times. If you love this podcast, you'll love the book look for the book wherever you buy books. Available in written and digital format. Do you wanna start your own podcast human due to do it? It's easy. Just go to pine cast dot com. Try plan cast for free forever. No credit card required. If you decide to upgrade use coupon code are dash eight D F E F zero for forty percent off for four months and this'll support Cup of Dow for gruesome, both do this almost half off. Yeah. So get it. Now. Good a pine cast dot com. That's your assignment don't forget to subscribe to my show in your podcast player app or to the RSS feed. How do you like the show? You can send me feedback at master at doughty dot com. And you can also ask me questions of today and be featured on a podcast episode. You can fund my Email address contact information. A disclaimer in more information in the show notes. So please check those out. Hey, that's offered today show. I'll see you next week. Have I could week a piece in love be with you. Thank you for listening. Bye. Thanks for listening. This podcast is a code CMC production.

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CNN10 - 10/11/19

CNN 10 (video)

10:00 min | 10 months ago

CNN10 - 10/11/19

"It is they say like this ten percent what happens to you and ninety percents. Fridays awesome something like that welcome CNN ten China India Egypt or Australia though the exact origin of the type nat means they can capture winds much further off shore where other turbines can't last month in Norway Makoni successfully completed its first deepwater offshore known historians believe they were first used in China they fly like the wind but can be used to gather electricity damage Super Typhoon Hegab is expected to bring heavy rain too much of south central Japan near the coast forecasters are concerned about a potentially large storm surge or industries longest strike in decades the union representing almost fifty thousand workers is negotiating with GM over issues like wages and profit sharing super typhoon because it's especially powerful on Thursday hag abyss was the equivalent of a category five hurricane the strongest classification if it shifts a big hangup between the two sides is overproduction in Mexico GM has four factories there and thirty three in the United States but the companies planning direction as forecasters expected to this storm could come very close to the Japanese capital of Tokyo on Saturday meteorologist think will have weakened by then but I have been cancelled as the storm approaches on the other side of the Pacific General Motors the automotive company that makes Buick Cadillac Chevy it's in the midst of the close for US plants in the Union wants production in Mexico shifted back to the US one industry expert says that would come at a heavy cost to g some of the world's strongest winds are found here out on the ocean where water is too deep for most offshore wind turbines but a company called Makoni believes the ground through a tether and it's carbon fiber frame makes the kite extremely lightweight our energy kites are so lightweight we can install them in deep water on floating platforms abyss is on track to make landfall right near where Typhoon Fox I hit in September that storm reportedly killed three people and caused more than seven billion dollars a rise in sea water levels pushed ashore by storm and Hag abyss has already had an impact on the rugby World Cup it's being held in Japan this year and some matches energy back to earth their concerns about the amount of maintenance they need the threat they pose if they crash and what would happen bad weather but if everything goes right born macanese eighty five foot long energy kite flies around autonomously guided by computers crosswinds spin eight Roeder's producing electricity that sent back light but they're kites won't be ready for market for several years if your system is widely adopted what kind of impact do you think it could potentially make it has a solution with the new technology inspired by a familiar child's toy the kite to me it almost looks like an airplane. AM The strike has been going on for twenty five days Second Trivia the first known types have been traced back to what country create the possibility that we could tap that resource very economically and bring renewable power to hundreds of millions of people he from it there are a number of companies experimenting with this idea it requires a huge kites that fly high enough to catch steady wins in our atmosphere and then transferred that makes it a kite you know when you fly a kite in the park it's being lifted by the wind and you're holding onto it with tether and so are the same way once air mini areas around the world that really don't have a good resource for renewable power but do have offshore wind resource and so are lightweight guides. I tell seniors lived by two rules there are no bad bucket list wishes and everyone should have a bucket mm-hmm whether it's flying in a blimp driving an eighteen wheeler or jumping out of a plane a CNN hero is helping senior citizens seek the thrills always dreamed up his name is Web Wyman his nonprofit organization is jumped he says it's all about taking seniors from darkness to light my dad is a piece of work as a ninety five list wish for every bucket list fulfilled there is a sense of accomplishment a story that they get to take back to their community it lifts your spirits by name is web and I help seniors achieve their dreams veteran he was in World War Two participated in the invasion of Normandy at the crew. I'm on the right yeah I know this is where I'm supposed to be hard it he worked hard all his life folks always kind always had friends and would do anything for anybody gives them the shirt off his back that he can't do what he used to be able to do new game the reality of living in isolation with his mind he wants to be energizer bunny again that aggravates him when he saw the balloons being blown up and I looked at his face his smile could filled up the balloon but it's in that moment is out there and it's real and that's really one of the driving forces for us to keep going drag the bucket lists out then warming to see him going up that balloon I think he still smiling just so proud of him you keep smiling for the last number was be would that aging he's slowing down his body is not keeping that's a that's your only requirement I looked at it like much more than a hot air balloon ride call and beautiful it was a moment in time to share a little space with two heroes got a good shot of the moon moon it's a feeling ever evening your ninety s you're still flying high and Amen Large I WanNa thank you was a great day that's undecided I could feel the joy in their heart I could see the spark in their eye and feel the ordered eighteen large pizzas three hundred dollars they thought they'd called a Lima's Pizzeria in Alberta Canada where they're based but instead they'd ordered from Alamos two two local fire stations in Texas firefighters their shared some pictures of themselves enjoying the pies and now people from all over are donating pizzas gratitude that fills the air and I think knowing that they're feeling the same way is really all I needed to know this was a successful man is pizza in San Antonio Texas hoops that's twenty three hundred miles away so a bit far for delivery so what they decided to do was donate the pizzas in venturous things versions Brian again it was something he'd never experienced before and he'll never forget it. Gore was great to have you watching as we put this show together a super typhoon was whirling toward the nation of Japan its name is typhoon Hag abyss it's curse who wouldn't want a pizza that effort for anyone in Pepperoni need of a pick me up these pizzas are making the rounds where slices of goodwill abound in folks uh committee and Fire Department recently. Oh want to miss the chance to dish out of gesture whose ingredients are kindness generosity and it's never too cheesy to Ford Zeus hope your weekend fresh washes the good time that's the he won't believe he's this old if it keeps doing.

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Carolyn Porco has More info about Titan Helicopter - Clip

SPACE NEWS POD

07:40 min | 1 year ago

Carolyn Porco has More info about Titan Helicopter - Clip

"If you're listening to this, you obviously, like podcast and you probably like music to on Spotify, you can listen to all of that. And what place for free. You don't need a premium account. Spotify has a huge catalog podcasts on every topic including the one you're listening to right now. Uh Spotify, you can follow your favorite podcast. So you never miss an episode. Download episodes to listen to offline wherever you are easily share what you're listening to with your friends via Spotify integrations with social media platforms like Instagram. So just search for space news pot on the Spotify app or browse podcasts in your library, tab, and follow me. So you never miss an episode of the space news pod. Spotify is the world's leading music streaming service. And now it can be your go-to for podcasts too. Low-and. Welcome back to the space news pod. A daily podcast of about the exploration of space science in tech. I'm your host will Walden in this episode. We're going to be talking about titan, NASA. We'll be sending a helicopter to take. It's a drone it kind of looks like ones that you can buy in the commercial space. So drones that we have here on earth. I'm going to look like the one that's going to be on titan. This drone. We'll be launching in the thousand twenty s we'll be landing in the twenty thirties, and it's going to be searching for life. It's very important that they get this, right. Because this could be their only shot to get titan for a very long time. It takes about ten years to get there. So if this mission fails, it'll be at least another twenty years before we get another chance to get over there. Now that being said. It's really rough on titan. It's atmosphere is mainly methane. It makes it extremely difficult to create. Flying drone? It's autonomous too. So let me let me tell you about this. It's autonomous for one. We can't fly a drone from here. Heff the signal go to tighten tell it, what to do and have the signal bounce back to earth. And tell us that it went totally fine in real time. The stuff that's been going on here on earth. Thomas. Drones the autonomous vehicles. Well, that's the kind of technology that's going to be used on titan with this quad copter. It's absolutely insane that this is actually happening. So if your into tech take a look at this quad copter. It's on my website space news, podcast dot com or space industry, news dot com. I just kinda resurface that one out of nowhere. It's been around, but I haven't really been focusing on it. And if you're into Saturn, you can go to Magellan, TV dot com slash space news pod to check out every documentary, you'll ever need to know about Saturn and its moons. You can get two months for free, and then after that's done. It's is lowest four ninety nine per month. And all of these movies, all these documentaries, all of these shows thir- an HD, and you can watch on any device at any time. So thank you Magellan for helping out the podcast. And thank you for everybody for listening. Now, let's get back into some titan news. And there's a few things that this drone has to really worry about one of them is the surface. Now, if the surface of titan, as scientists believe it is, is a sandy material the Roeder's could get clogged with sand. The instruments could get clogged with this sand, because if you think about it, what happens when a helicopter lands, it pushes everything aside seeing shoots everywhere. Dershowitz everywhere on the have to worry about getting these things insulated from the sand is much possible. Make sure they don't clog up now since the atmosphere is methane and there are methane rains that come down on titan. If methane rain comes down on the Lander on the Thomas drone. Well, it might clog up the instruments and I spoke with Carolyn Porco on Twitter. Caroline is the Cassini imaging lead. I said, hey, how cool is it that we are sending a helicopter to another world? She said how cool two hundred ninety degrees below zero Fahrenheit. Did you expect any other answer from a scientist? But also dazzling spectacular. I really hope I'm still around to see it, and that it works. And Caroline, makes a really great point here. It's really, really cold on tight almost negative three hundred degrees Fahrenheit. Super cold spaces very cold as well. When you're traveling through space, very cold. So the scientists at NASA, the engineers at NASA will have taken care of this, by the time it gets there, and then I followed it up with kind of expected to hear this. It looks incredibly complex. Hopefully, the technology is able to withstand that kind of temperature from the mission length seems like sand, maybe a factor in the long term, as well any thoughts, lots of moving parts on this one. She said, we're not sure the surfaces Sand Lake. It could be more like snow made of tar, but there will be large particles, made of organic compound and it's not clear to me what that might due to mechanical mechanisms dust on the moon was a real problem for Apollo astronauts, so it seems like the engineers have their work cut out for them on this one. They're going to be searching for life. They're going to be looking at closer looks close ups of the surface. Titan. They're going to have cameras on this thing, high definition cameras, that they'll be able to stitch together so they can make moving pictures movies, and it's going to look absolutely amazing. And I can't wait for it. So I want to say thank you so much for taking the time out of your day to spend two here with me on the space news pod. Checkout space news, pod dot com. Every night. I do a live podcast so you can come and hang out and come chat with me, Espy questions. You know, let me know about cool stuff that's going on just say, hi anything, you want to know go to space news, pod dot com on Twitter at space news pot, on Facebook at space news pot. Thank you, again, to Magellan TV dot com slash space news, pod checkout, that site for documentaries about cool space stuff, two months for free on any device anywhere. Thanks again. For taking the time out of your data's spend it here with me on the space news pod. My name is will Walden, and I will see you soon.

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How to Use the Download Feature in Safari on iOS

AppleVis Podcast

08:57 min | Last week

How to Use the Download Feature in Safari on iOS

"You're listening to Apple Viz podcast. Hi there everybody my name is Thomas Bill is go by the name of anonymous. In this podcast I'm going to show you how to use the download feature in safari on my os. So let's just say you want to download something from Safari and this case I'm going to download a file from freedom scientific, for example, and when a download something call a voice. Screen reader call jaws for my windows. Image show you how to retrieve it and where to go for it. So let's go to safari yourself safari and do one forgettable tap to open it. Safari address search afterwards. So I'M GONNA go to Freedom Scientific I. HAVE THIS IN MY Book Sh- mark here. Toolbar show bookmarks button. bookmarks heading I'm GonNa go to the right and targeted my freedom scientific bookmark. Freedom scientific homepage. Okay. Actually lives available. This. Address. Eleven percent freedom typic- dot Com. So I'm GonNa go find where we go to the downloads section here freedom scientific call today one, eight, search text field, submit button toggle navigation, but toggle navigation home products, software services, support downloads, link download downloads, link expanded. It's going to expand I'm GONNA pick jaws. Link Novatell back? And now we'll go to the screen submit button animal swipe down was heading level one main downloads heading one and go to the right joint screen reading software heading to the latest version of can be downloaded learn what is new in just two thousand node. The following link requires an Internet connection bullet lists don't just two, thousand, twenty, point zero, zero, six, twelve, June, two, thousand, and twenty link listening. So that's the latest one I'm gonNA double tap this. and. Then you hear a tone there go to the right close button you hear the close button now go to the right download button. and Go. Ahead and double tap this. If you want to download, it must do it. Download just two thousand and twenty point zero, zero, six, Dot, twelve, June, two, thousand, twenty landlord or let's go to the top here. Format options button back title page formatting. Options address support Dot Gov dot com reload button and one more to the right here too far. Downloads button is download done. There you go. So double tap this. Downloads heading now, going to show me what has been downloaded and Gimme some. Kind of information if it's done or not how much percent is left and etcetera, I complete so good to the right Clare Button yes. You can clear the whole thing if you want after you download a few things J two, thousand, twenty, two, thousand, six, Dot dot four, hundred, progress thirty, one percent seven point three MBA of three dot, one megabyte actions available downloading at this time. So you know that is still in the works. So see here and wait for it into A. J. Two. Thousand. And Twenty, two, thousand, six, twelve out four, hundred, twenty, three, dot, one megabyte slightly more downs. This electric custom action then double tap to activate. Now, as you can see or hear for yourself, there's no more percent there. So completed now, if I swipe up on this check this out view download our can view the download itself or if I can go up a more delete. Delete it. So you can delete that completely out of there but we are done us get out of here go to the apple files, for example, and I'll show we can find in. Safari. FILES DOUBLE TAP to open actions available. Okay. So we have files here double tap this. Files I cloud drive back button. Now make sure you're all the way back out because you may not be in the cloud. So let's say you're in a different service like dropbox one drive. So at the top left eye cloud drive back button, you can go back I cloud. Browse back button. Rouse. Rouse heading, and then we're at the browse. Let's make sure we go to the cloud. So. You're asking yourself to go as a great question it went to your I cloud drive. So let's go to the right here. Search search locations, button I clouds Dr Glenn Tap this selected Castro folder do items stroh. That's one of my apps. So if you go to the right here, desktop folder documents folder. Folder. That's like memo downs elected action than double tap to activate. TAP This J two, thousand, and twenty, two, thousand, six, twelve, four, hundred, hyphen. File six, fifty pm twenty-three dot one megabyte. Downs selected custom action various. So that is where your file is. So if I were to go on my Microsoft, windows laptop now I'll go to my I cloud drive and go under the download folder, and I'm able to get to this jaws installation file just. Click that s cute and install joss. Now, one more thing I want to present to you is where you can dump the download files you can change that location. So instead of going to the cloud drive default into the download folder, you can select wherever you want it to go to Seoul. To do this, we'll have to go back out of here and go to my settings. Files settings. Double tap to open. Go ahead and dumped this. Settings, and now we're GONNA swap to the right into we get your safari safari button in. General heading, you're going to swipe the right into we download downloads I cloud drive button and tells me that it's on the cloud drive. By default just one figure wtop this downloaded files on safari back button. Now, let's go to the right see where we have here downloads heading store downloaded files on heading now you have three. Here I'm GONNA show you all three here selected I cloud drive downloads. Now. This is by default, the I cloud drive and the download folder. Now, the other option is to on my iphone, it's do it on your iphone. So if you want everything to go on your iphone, you could select that the other one here. Is the other to double tap this. Cancel Button, and go to the right here. New Folder Button. Yes. You can create a new folder within your I clock drive if you want done button. Darnest the top right access we'll be granted to cloud drive I cloud drive level one expanded. Drive is now expanded Castro lever to campus. Desktop level to. Documents level to downloads level to expanded. Now if you want to put any other folder with the nightclub drive, you can select that folder or you can create the new folder as I mentioned above now, the thing I couldn't figure out why you can do it is the other third party services such as dropbox and one drive. It is dimmed out you can't use it. That is pretty much in this IOS for now hopefully, in future, they'll be opened unlock that for so he'd dope tap for you wanted to go I'm GonNa, go ahead and just cancelled for now cancel button top let. Other. Now, I'm going to show you some other option here along that consists with your downloads. Here if you go to the ride automatically in store your downloads in a cloud changes you make to your downloads folder will sync across all your cloud devices, remove download list items after day button each year that so you can have this automatic cleared out after so many days and etc. so you might want to set this. Up My, for for one day. So after a couple of days I come back to the item and the list is cleared out. So that might be something useful. The other no I want to mention too is that if you're download stays at a certain percent and it never gets any further like a dozen completed for some reason, remember when I was showing you when you swipe up to delete the file, self will have a resume progress or resume download in that. Roeder just double tap the resume and will resume the download. So that is how to use the download feature in Safari on Iowa's my name is Thomas Danville to go by the name anonymous into next time. Bye Bye. 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Wrestling in 2020: COVID-19, Nyla Rose, and an update of PJ "The Whip"

Is It Transphobic Podcast

53:29 min | 4 months ago

Wrestling in 2020: COVID-19, Nyla Rose, and an update of PJ "The Whip"

"Have you ever said to yourself? Oh I'd love to start my own podcast but I don't know the first thing about them. Well if you haven't heard about anchor it's the easiest way to make a podcast here. LemMe explain see first off. It's free there are creation tools that allow you to record. And Edit your podcast right from your phone or your computer an anchor will distribute your podcast for you so it can be heard on spotify apple podcast and many more. You can also make money from your podcast with no minimum listenership. It's everything you need to make a podcast all in one place now. I'm just testing it out here for for this podcast but honestly the user interface has been so easy to navigate. I may move my existing podcast over to anchor as well. So if you WANNA look at the princess bride with fifteen second. Increments have a burning desire to interview and spread the stories of climate scientists. And I mean we know that's an important topic or you think that you and your friends or just super funny. You should download the free anchor APP or go to anchor dot. Fm to get started. I bet you're gonNA make an awesome podcast no matter what it was now back to. Our show is it. Transphobic will be addressing issues of Trans Phobia and Trans Misogyny. We may also address issues of racism. Classism Able ISM and various other intersectional issues in this podcast so this is a trigger warning. The panelists on is it. Transphobic will also use strong language so listener discretion is advised. Hello thank you for. Joining us for is a transphobic. My name is Ashley Lauren. Rogers I'm the Creator producer in editor of the PODCAST. I use she her and they then pronouns and today I'm being joined by. I'm Sarah Him for an ounce also known as the whip done salads. I use a cheer pronounce. Awesome so Botha. Scientists and Paolo are people that you're probably very familiar with if you listen to our podcast. Silas has been on countless numbers of episodes at this point and Paula. So for those listening. Paula is figuring out her bike. We really appreciate it. Yeah we we the tech. The tech on this end unfortunately did not save us. But Powell is joining us with a wonderful branded guitar hero. Mike we really appreciate you figure it. Honestly we didn't WanNa talk to anyone else about these subjects and so it's just like no we thank you for doing whatever you have to make it work. I feel like I'm holding a microphone back like back in the eighties. When you used to white psych interviewing the rest arts you know like s so today we're GonNa talk about To specific subjects. But we're GONNA talk about pro wrestling as a whole and whether it's Inclusive to transport looks But the the major subjects are Nyla rose. Which if you haven't listened to this podcast and you haven't just if you've been living under a rock. She is amazing pro wrestler who is also trans and is currently the a e w women's champion and Holy Crap. I am just in love with Nyla rose and the the best ways possible But we're also going to talk a little bit about Inter gender wrestling But before we go into that Powell you have joined us for the episodes. You've joined us for a couple episodes as well. We did an interview with you about a year and a half maybe two years ago Two years maybe three. Yeah Yeah Yeah it was. It was quite a while a lot a lot as happens. We want to check in with you on that. We also want to talk with silence threes. I wanted to bring Silas in is because Silas is scowls. Official referee Scowl He Plays Sam. Eagle eye in scouring. A was watching the match yesterday. Yeah we're going to greener release. I think by the time we released this episode. It'll be out there but a SAM was introduced in during our worldwide pride fighting. I let Powell take a look to give me notes Because I wanted you to talk especially because Powell you have experience as professional professional wrestling referee right. Yes started doing that last year. Mostly out of necessity. Because I'm I'm not twenty anymore. I already passed big four zero. So your body. There's so much in the body can take when you are in the restaurant business. You know so i. I began to look into different way that I can stay in the business and contribute in the business And help others you know and having been in business for so long. I'm being and being a wrestler. So you understand cycle of your match to like Raff and pudding. Day at the stripe psychology. It's kind of fun easy transition. You know so. So I've been working software F- At some chose. And there's going okay I I like it too. You know it's a it's a job and you need to have good crafts in You are pretty much they. They're middle person between they. The workers are working under match and And in case something happened to one of them and they had a a situation happening one of my last shows where somebody got in your dell shoulder so I had to give the signal so I was somebody in the back. Come AND HELP. The person that was in the spring. So you know it's it's a responsibility and this also physically into you know 'cause I I saw you only Russell one match and you're done as her for you are working in. Probably one two three four matches. Depending on how. M- how many revs a promotion has so. It's it's not an easy job. People went to think it is yeah So in addition to that I wanted to talk to you because your character has kind of seen a whole new direction like when we interviewed you before you were I believe the the term was the whip mistress correct. Yes so yeah that changed because of my I decided to change most because I wanted to turn down the character a little bit more to be more marketable There are some promoters that wants to do shows that are kid friendly. You know So so I decided to switch the character because of that you know. Get away from Debbie. Sm saying you know or notation you know because that's when you heard the name whip mistress people are GonNA think like. Oh yeah okay be DSM and all that kind of stuff. That is so great at wrestling. So let's do something different. You know and was trying to figure out I wanted to use a whip as a pro in the ring Because so many other people know how to use a whip and also people tend to forget that in the past there were a lot of like wrestlers like Dutch Mantel on Run Baz and also one man. Bill a ruin. They used to carry able to the ring and they used to use it. A SA- character to to punish their opponents after matches so I wanted to keep that in place and I was like okay. What can you do and I know I can your goals so I just had. I think I'm going to go with a circus team and I just had a circus team and came out with a one of the six what happened. It was like when people used to see me. It was a whip this star cheering for me and they don't want that to happen so I decided to toward face. Spain that I that I were looks like this. You know. It's almost like a combination of that era. If you take the symbols for new merged them together you get a happy face sad face and that's what I pretty much so. Yeah and it's been working great They gave me has got to meet some success and I heard I champion New York championship wrestling. You know so. Yay congrats the the reigning defending champion of NYC. W Yeah that came unexpected in and ask for it or hey. We're going to get the belt. I'm like okay all right I we just completely ruin your retire job. Do we like we. Can we can we? Can you know? We don't have to air that I can cut it out. I have time it's okay. It's okay I think like a lot of fans they probably know already. You know I mean my day. 'cause they know Because of the you know like back in the early ninety s people were still doing the commentary about whether wrestling was fake or not and then I nine hundred ninety eight. I remember there was as a commentary called Exposed pro wrestling greatest secret. If you haven't seen it goes the stunt granny or is that a different one I was like I remember. Brian Zane He's a he's a wrestling youtuber. He was like he was reviewing one of those videos. And I think it was progressively exposed and it was like oh see that that old woman who hit that guy. Well she's a stunt granny just like he's like okay there's one but they had in that show. They had a kid and and one of the things that promote issues. They have a kid and that kid. Nobody knows that it's a son of one of the wrestlers and the rest of the kid. Take the poster and break it or poor kid but in the back day will give him a lollipop still like that. I'm like what the Hell I I could definitely see especially like. Hey if you know the business if you're like if you're a kid who's in the business it's like okay you get it so I can be a little bit like I can push you a little further. I can steal your thing I can destroy this but like yeah okay. But that's specifically I mean from the perspective of a Fan. That doesn't know that you know that doesn't know that the person has a family in there there were like. Oh my God look at. This person are taking something for my child. What I mean person. No our point so like it's like old school all school cheap. Eat what I like to call it. There are things to those things that are arrest or can do your sue. Make the fans not like them. You know. There's so many things that you can do to get to like it because you want the fans react in a certain way you know and you can do it in so many ways and that is one way that that you can use you know you have somebody in the crowd you know you can go to that person you know. And and use that Let me give you some fee to use that way. They other people react according to what they are saying you know. Yeah so can I ask. How IS CO VADE? D- coronavirus All of this affecting indy wrestling right now like I know the the obvious. There's a lot of things that are shut down and had to be postponed but like can you comment a little bit on. How it's affecting the indy wrestling industry Sure Yeah right now like today there was going to be at show at the locally here in Albany and they had to unsold They decided to sell because of they covered nineteen So our supposed to wrestle next week in Chicopee Massachusetts and that show also cancelled so it really has affected independent wrestling completely. There are no chose right now going on in United States Which is unfortunate. But it's understandable you know and We want to keep people safe. You know And saying like when you look at the independent where they count do what what we or eight Candu. Which is like they have the money support from a person that has money that like putting money into that company so they kinda foregoing like for example to the performance center or to an undisclosed location. And do what show independent wrestling companies? They can't do that. You know not only. The market is if for Independent Promotion Company. Like sometimes you watch. You never know how many people you are going to get promoted. Show pretty well. You can get like two hundred three hundred and Max but sometimes I. You may get less than that. You know It depends how you promoted location. It all depends who you bring to the show too but keep in. Mind that if you bring somebody with a name Dr Program to charge you a lot of money so us you have to balance that and it's very difficult to do so a small company. They kind of do what they are doing right now. We say blue and WWL Louis and also knowing that New York State even decided to close all the James so like if somebody has how wrestling in we cannot go. There're so right now. The set tough environment for independent wrestling companies. Like I just hope that after this situation it can go back to normal. But I don't know you know it's We'll have to see what happens you know. Yeah no I completely understand that I know especially like I was saying Silas and I were part of Scowl Ladder Magadan and I and I cannot state how much I completely agree with the tank for having to postpone all of these shows that were going on there because we were having discussions just like we had to stop an entire rehearsal just so that we could have a discussion about A. Hey so should we keep. Having this rehearsal they're shutting down a lot of things And so- silence. I wonder just like how. How are you holding up? How's things going on your end? We'll things are going on right on our end. You know. It's it's it's hard for everybody but we My partner has been through hell things recently so we were. We were on the front lines of New York kind of pulling pulling back and we we were ahead of the curve for shopping and things like that because we were very very careful so we are. We had the benefit of being a little bit more prepared and in some ways but it was hard with scowl on unite had talked about it even before if ladder. Magadan was going to be postponed or not. I was already thinking about pulling out just because of having to travel and things like that so it is. It is very challenging. Because both Wigan and that's the thing when we're when we're doing scowl allstate combat but it's obviously the the the idea is. The story is very similar to professional wrestling storytelling. So you can't. There are ways to do it. But you really can't do that. Show without physically touching another person and Nelson. Yeah so the thing is I given. Theodore appeared day. I I work in community theater here in this area too and they have to cancel out the promotes at all. The chose upcoming shows too. It's it's not just wrestling. Wrestling is a wrestling former theater. And we can have a long conversation about this but like to me. Wrestling is you. Have you have a hero? And if Shakespeare or any other play you always have a villain and you always have a hero. It doesn't change from other than change. It just happened. That wrestling has a lot of stage. Combat and drama and and unfortunately it falls into theater because decided to cancel their gathering. Saw the comes up so like not on the suffering but also theater cellphone suffering up here and it's it's really going to take awhile for audit forever sin to go back to normal normal. Normalcy is very weird concept right now but Yeah I mean we're GONNA get there and honestly there are a lot of theater companies that are figuring it out trying things and trying to figure out how to do it in the digital age and again like you say a lot of the major brands like WWe. Awa doing this bizarre but amazing thing where they're just doing it in front of nobody or with aws. I duNno I dunno if eclipse but There is this like amazing thing. That a w was doing where they literally just put all their heels in the audience and so all the heels are just. They're like betting on everything yelling. It's kind of an and with a great idea because when you look at the we didn't have anybody in the in the crowd buck. They had like A. I think it was watching. I did watch the interview. That age did Against the return and dysentery was really fantastic. You know maybe look at the Calmer. I like He got into it but I think like the one of like a stone call. He was when they actually. Yeah yeah the crowd and it's like I can you give me a hell. Yeah they point to Kreider somebody else. Own like Like Oh yeah that is just so a way like the arrests are being around that. That's just great. You know that that that you'll be something that you consider doing because that would be hilarious too you know. Yeah so let's talk a little bit because we've been talking about a lot of us and I wanted to do a very nontraditional episode of this podcast anyway. So it's fine but Let's talk a little bit about. Nile AROSE BECAUSE AGAIN. Neither rose made some history. She's amazing I think she's wonderful But what does Nile arose mean for transport looking to break into the business of business of professional wrestling specifically. So is the first one Tomato like to a a big company When you look at the rest some Biz asset as you have out the independent promotion Solloway United States you know and And then you have a lowly a w Ring Afar and if you want to put them although there you can put them dollar there and maybe new Japan too so those are like when we speak about wrestling like most people day w e W or ring fun or whatever so neither who's getting Sabet. It's really big because not many big companies have any transgender wrestlers. You're looking at. They don't have anybody there you know you look at during a phone or they don't have anybody there They may have restaurants that are in the Yale bt spectrum but they don't have anybody that is openly transgender So it's really big because of the fact that she's made your promotion and that's really the biggest significant there and she's setting up the standard for any other person who make the May eventually be able to get to that point which I don. I don't think he's going to happen anytime soon. But you're never know how this businesses Lanka's Silas and I talked a little bit about this idea of firsts and even the the idea of like who is this person the first are they. I what is with Nyla. It's very clear that she is the first one now if the question that you're asking us if they are the first transgender person wrestling. I will have to say no. She's not and then if you asked me the other question is is the only one I will have to say. No just another one and and I'm not saying that because of me you know right well you existing also just proves that no. She's not the only one but at the same time. Like yeah like like so so when you look at resin per se yes there are other transgender people in the business I could I I could feel but if I if that we'll be okay to name them. Yeah I would say if they openly. Id than sure but yeah. Yup I feel you though know that I mean that they are open about about it. you don't necessarily need to name specific but it says you know like if if there'd been there was an article that what. Sweden A few weeks ago on. They mentioned a few names in that article. You know So I'm just going to use that article reference because this how dare you can find. The article wasn't twitter and They mentioned Nyla dimension Kandilli she's in a In New Zealand. Pretty much trae. Yeah chicken to show you in the United States last year and then You have a Maria. Merino Cheese in California So and and then you have me you know. I'm not like well known. So that's why that. Make it to that article which really bothers me. Like how dare you not include champion? How do they excitedly? I'm a champion. But yeah like we do exist and there are some business now we've been in the essence and it hasn't been easy. I even now. It's not easy in the best sense for a person. They're they're still. I feel some bias toward Prince Worker But it depends on the promotion. Day You work for you know So so when you take a big company like gay w the sat in to take their chances by singing nyla to go to to the company and that is really big. You know 'cause I I will do something like that I I don't think so. We'll bring a foreigner do that. I don't think so either. You know why no and and there's also something because not only was she. One of the first people announced as being signed for Awa. She was one of the first to compete for the women's Championship. It was her versus. Reijo was the the first like okay. The winner of this match will be the first champion and then she beat Ryobi the second champion ever of aws who Silence I'm curious as someone who I have forced to watch wrestling. What what are your opinions having seat true? So tell us about your impressions after watching. Yeah we're amazed. I enjoyed them so much. I knew you were wrestling as theater. And as someone who's new to wrestling thing that I've been really struck by his Sports like traditional sports are some things that we put a lot of Nara around the commentators and and when people talk about you know their games before and after we try to structure a story. Because that's sort of the human impulses to everything is a story and you know good guys and bad guys like you said. And what's fascinating to me? Is We kind of act like sports or theatre when they're not and then you have wrestling which is theater dressed up like sports and it has the beauty of because it is theater. You can give the experience of a sport that perfect now. You don't end up with well. This was just a terribly mismatched. Game and it was kind of boring to watch or you don't end up with the rest made a mistake and it kind of ruined the game because in this case if the roughnecks mistake that's scripted and it's part of the story and watching Niles fight especially the fight with Reijo was such a perfect beautiful example of it and they were both so good and the EB and flow of the fight and having one get the upper hand for a little while and to talk about different different styles fast versus strong and what that meant was really really beautiful to watch him and as someone who is nude wrestling. That's what I'm discovering is kind of to me like this shining beauty that only wrestling can give you as the sort of almost bridge between what people love about sports and what people love about theater and and it's interesting 'cause like When you mentioned the different clashes style of power versus throwing US interesting because WH- when you're used to see like the Louis back in the day you know when they have like whole hog and the ultimate warrior Andhra Diane this this world heavyweight people but now wrestling has become in my opinion more diverse in terms of like buddy type like no longer. You have to be a six foot monster to be allowed to be in a mayor. Promote Sean. You know you can have somebody like Reijo and And I rose Creamy Stereo or Callisto. Callisto is really tiny. Like when you put against a big choice to largest 'cause like okay that this little person's going to the person but I it's amazing to see that variety and diversity now in the restaurant business before it didn't exist and let your companies have come to to acepted something that that that it is you know and when you look at the Nyla rose and free home match. Ucla classic example of What I like to call the David versus Goliath kind of idea? And you know and and I know that a lot of Some people were okay with it but you like some people like that were not okay with said and I question why why are you concerned about Nyla. Been big and other kind of stuff. You remember watching like big show or Kevin Natural Wrestling Cremate Sturdier Union. Back in the nineties like like that wasn't match that was how dare you know when you had? Kevin Nash and he's like a big town monster and it was Ramos. Terrier Union are back in the day you know and so to me The one thing that I that I that NYLA has began creating a lot of controversy to which in part it's recall some cases to hear some of the people that have been in the business. I complain about it aside. Why Wall which part of wrestling you come from. You Know Island and she mentioned in the the Chris Jericho interview because she did an interview with talk. Talk is Jericho Vet like literally. I could tweet. I woke up this morning and had breakfast and people would become an for me and it's just like well okay and then yeah. I actually just kind of kind of talking about that. Well we'll get to the the Chris Jericho interview in a moment. But I'm curious if there's a way and again like this is from both you Paulo. Who is a trained seasoned person in the business and Silas? Who is someone who's coming new to this form? How would you describe the way that she can make her? Opponents look good because as much as she is dominant as much as she is physically able to lift someone like Reijo and catch her in the air and then deliver a backbreaker like how does she make Reijo. Look good go ahead and me and I've noticed this too I. I was familiar with stage combat for a more other kinds of theater. And I've I've been learning how to do specifically wrestling style stage combat with work scowl and sort of bringing in how that works. And I've seen this with some of the size differences in among star performers as well. The different talents is that you know this idea of making your opponent look good and whoever's taking the fall whoever's taking the hit is responsible for sort of the the biggest part of making it look impressive and making it look showy and when you when you have that sort of that big strength where he can do those kinds of lifts and you can you know forever. Lift that she had when she was taking Rio out. She had another one where she was still doing the lift but RIA was getting I apologize. I don't envy the terms getting the legs and the arms around and spinning her in the knocking her down which looks so amazing. Like it's very. It's it's almost like ballet in that respect where you by virtue of having people who have distract the power for throws and lifts completely expand the repertoire that you can do you know or e- even just like you know watching the cheerleaders that knew in. High School. They would have that kind of thing. There'd be years when you had these strong powerful people who could be the base and the showing people were the flyers and you'd throw them at the air and they twirl around and it looked amazing but it was only possible if you had that strength driving. Everything and I noticed that a lot in in watching wrestling especially in something like that with a with a size mismatch in with the style or not a mismatch but an intentional difference and the style difference and I thought it was. It was really really impressive. I now know enough that I can watch it. You know from a technical point of view and just see how much talents goes into just catching somebody who jumps on you and and you know going down with someone on top of you and not just landing safely yourself but bringing that person down safely as well and it's it's really amazing and it just shows how much athleticism and strength but also a presence of mind and awareness of your body and other people's body that is so important or else wrestling with work. Save you say it's like dance pretty much? You know like a lot of timing too. You know 'cause In some moves you can see some have a great time in some research. They don't have very good timing speech. I was flying Lexus. Or which Some of that have made in only in the restaurant business but in a in a movie through. Sometimes you have seen being used by some movies. Too I can't remember specific scene in a movie like I know like black widow and iron. Yes the first time you've heard on okay. I never liked that came from pro wrestling. You know so so. There are a lot of moves at and coming from me being arrested fan but also russell like back when I started my wrestling. Career like A lot of that in the Louis it was only after I start expanding myself and And watching other types of Of wrestling like for example like Mexican wrestling which is very. It's it's more slowly Mexican. Wrestling is more flowing instead of like taking the heart. Bombsite the wrestlers A. Hearing United States take in Mexico. They they roll was a moves. You know like they. They do a lot of like Three-quarter roles and to make the speed of the performance of the resumes. Go faster if anybody get a chance to watch AAA even of you. Don't understand WH- what they're not really saying. But I watched AAA WATCH. C. A. L. And you're going to see that so to me. It's not anything new and One of the things when I began practicing again back in two thousand fifteen so new that that Having like we're not going to be many women that were my size so I began looking into learning how to be a good base and take those type of moves so that way I can make my opponent look good. You know because I I don't know if anybody has practice martial arts there's a term of like using your opponent's momentum against them so that's the idea of those moves which sometimes the pound who may not read that but the idea is that it's like are you saying they're putting momentum against them you know And those move tend to look fantastic if they are done properly. You know because when you wrestled somebody that is smart and use. Sometimes they may be a little bit difficult to do Moosa Ball this time or or or hipped us you know and even when I s I don't let people of certain high do certain moves to me. You know but I will give them some other moves I can drag or a flying lexus or Or like for example like Lift them like I'm going to toss them and then they do spinning or Tornado. The on me So let's are moves that I give people to make them look over but it is just showing that they can out wrestle me because I'm going for a particular move but they are coming out with something different that is used to my momentum against them you know and that's how you create a story you know because I'm angry. How come the same person inside doing this to me? You know this is not supposed to happen. So I'm going to go forward and not a fraternal surprise. Me Was Withdrawal I ended up landing in the floor. You know so. There are ways that you can do as a wrestler. Create that Dad Idea of your point and being able give them. They're what we call it. The wrestling their own China. So I would they they they look like. Oh this person will get take this This solar wrestler you know even though there are tiny they can do it so yeah. Let's let's go on support that person and Everybody loves an underdog exactly exactly everybody loves the underdog you know and then afterwards you switch it and then you go into what we call in the wrestling business. The heat where you have the bigger ports are now like overpowering day they they lit up person you know and an unending case of is power moves than I do that to myself I I I do I was I might choke Syamsu like Mitch and ochre driver was a big one that you've been doing right now being used in every match that I've been going over trying to set up like okay. This is my finisher one moved. That will help me win matches so recent that I've been using it allowed us because I want to put a move over which means that I'm going to move over and over whenever I went. So people can Their fans that are are freaking. Friends are going to know. Hey that's her finisher. That's the one that will get their one two three count. You know so but now I've been used in so long that I can tell us that to this that that I'm about to do it and said Oh no no no. It's for a moment there for a moment there. We thought you got to do it but no it didn't happen. So so that's the idea of of me doing that Which is like. It's Larry like a language that you speak the language. Yeah here's the thing. It was that That anyone was given to me by a trainer named Kevin Landry and I wasn't his In schooling was talking about how promotions they want to try to put people over but they are not consistent on the way they do things you know how you develop a character and wrestling in the compound you have. You cannot expect people to react from the first show because they don't know what's going on in that company you know so you have to create a something to introduce the character of. You're going to have a wrestler that is going to be You went to start creating giving wrestler finishers you have to start making those of us that finisher consistently and that's how you put a move over. You know you don't it yes because you you put it over because you start using it consistently so that's why I I've been using Mitchell driver a lot lately But but yeah. That's those are moves at are powerless. And there are times that I if I'm more residents somebody that it's way bigger than me. I'll primate jozef. Move because I may not be able to live that person safely so and I know that point I switched my I switched my strategy and there are moves that I have. I have learned like I can fly. Next is her but to me to flying Lexus. And somebody smarter than me. That's not going to be. And that is believable. Either you know so so it depends who you're working with differing versus Opponent and also know what you could count your opponent do in in in in match you know and that's how you play with to make somebody look good and I watched the images of nine and have that there are fantastic that word crafter you know what I what what will expect to see When you have somebody that is big versus somebody. That s like smaller. So so yeah. They're they're being match has been interesting. I think the last one we're we're she won the title. That was way better than the first one that they they both have because of their chemistry getting better over overtime like I think. That's that's the thing because there are a lot of people that when they saw the first match they were like. Oh I don't know about this and a all right sit down for a second but like be you know. You've got to take time to develop that chemistry. You've gotta take time to sort of develop like also that was one of the first real major televised. Awa events that the first one happened on. It's it's a lot of new and it's a lot happening so it's like okay like we gotta figure this out like it's it's like when you're watching a television show and you need to watch the pilot okay. Great you watch the pilot. You can't judge it on the pilot you gotta give it a little bit. You gotta give it some time and then like once they figure out all the stuff like this is a really good this the the the rematch where Nyla won. The title is a really good testament to giving things a little bit of time to breathe and figure itself out. And being like yeah. No this is what they can do. And this is amazing. And then what I love about their storylines like Everybody wants expecting. Oh my God. Allies is so bake shit going through history all the other women wrestlers is going to win the idol. I might. Everybody was thinking that that was going to happen. And I'm like I'm thinking you know what I don't think that's what's going to happen. It's so good to happen. Get it may happen later. But it's not going to happen has happened right away because I went to milk it. You know you want to take that storyline and along the way at extended you know So I just I love her line. She has a line where she says are like a. Promo where she says. I'm going to be a one time champion because no one's taking this from me it's like. Oh how good for you. That's a good. That's a good line so so I but I tell you that Saudi more drama to innocous acting like the weather act to like. Oh I'm the biggest one here. There's nobody is that it's going to take this style away from you know just grading reminder and then because you have like their throats online to that. I don't like her. They fall for that. We're just comfy Larry's you know. They don't like her but at the same time they're following for it you know and I'm like looking from the perspective of a restaurant but that under Sunday's Day considered a sterling St Complain but reality is like you all are following for this. You know it's it's just a way it is I look at some of the negative comments that people have been saying like for example when you watch Game Cornell Dot com stuff like I mean just. Don't listen to Jim. Court added jeter no Yup Yup. Oh No that. She's run ZANDER ON THE COUNCIL. I mean now. What's our the state when they a few weeks after they hire her by it was sold to? They're all inside. She was only transgender. You know people already know I it. It still took Jim Cornet forever to hear that. For whatever reason Jim Cornet like Sosa Silas? This is like starting to get inside baseball but like so so Jim. Cornet is a very famous He was a manager for awhile. He's been a promoter he does now. He's a commentator who Has A podcast and he basically for a long time and now like. Nyla has been like there have been so many pieces but so many things since. Nyla was signed as being openly trans and Jim has been like. Wow she's amazing. Oh My Gosh. I like her. Wow she so big. Wow that's amazing and then like I've actually had conversations with people at that time being like do you think Jim knows that? She's trained since like I mean he has to. It's been everywhere so finally maybe like a month ago he was like. Oh my God. She's translation really play that up. It was like what are you doing are like what rock have you been living under? Jim A. and B. Like I sent Powell. I was on a podcast. My friend The he'll alternative and they we were talking about that and the whole conversation was essentially like will. What story does that? Actually tell if it's just like I'm Trans and like gyms gym cornets and Jim cornyn is absolutely transphobic in this but Jim cornets takeaway was. She should play up the fact that she's trans. And that idea of like I used to be a man and our stolen your title which that story. Nabi told I mean We already know that she's threads but like us that story. Now that is no. It's it's a bunch of bullshit but also where do they go after that? Nowhere nowhere exactly so. It's not something that you should do at all because you you could do owned by then if you do that then then you you're done you cannot continue to win that same storyline. You know you are left without anything so like and I don't like it because honestly it put their performance is like for example like I I. I don't go to show telling people that I'm trying to. I may have used to do it before but not anymore. Stop at one point because I don't want people to know that that is very personal. No no one's business. Maybe the promoter knows that I'm trans. Maybe people nine no that I'm trying to like that's something that I that I tend to stay away I the one me being Crohn's been using a storyline anymore. Because that's what matter what matters a character that you play in the case of now that she's beaches strong. That's what we have in there. We have somebody that way stronger than most of the roster must've of the women's roster and does the storyline. That will keep moving things with her. You know because I ran out. She can brag about it about cheapie nyc strong. And oh who's going to defeat me you know and then you have a story in there but if you focus on. Tbn Trans and the way they wanted to do as you're on it so it's only going to last so much before people get bored with that you know and I personally don't like it. I don't like what Jim said. And honestly you can live does because if somehow decide to hear this song or wrestling fans that are in the spectrum and they hear me saying that I like what I say because I've really done because I think in Connecticut stupid when he said that yeah I don't want he said I think in Connecticut idea is ridiculous and wrong from their storytelling perspective of how to use a transportation wrestling which really surprised me. Because in reality it's like whipping existed in for a long time you know and and an uneven like in Mexico like And I don't want to transition their workers to accessible like in Mexico they have the exotic. And you're going to tell me that you never knew that you'll be people exist before like yeah so silence. You seemed like you had something that you want to say as well right. Oh I hear on hold I just. There's something very poetic about it. Being really transphobic in a bad suggestion because that's transphobic but also it's just bad storyteller like the fact that it's both I just. I was like you're wrong. We'll speaking of people with podcasts. Nyla was recently on the talk is Jericho podcast. And for those that I I don't think I've ever shared this on here. Chris Jericho was really one of the first people that I looked at and said to myself you know I think I wanna be a wrestler Because this guy knows what's going on. This guy is amazing. I had the Monday night. Jericho Jericho policonomics t shirt. And I I actually. I stopped unsubscribe to his podcast. Because he had don trump junior on and I said I'm good. I don't need this anymore. Nothing you know like whatever but because he had nylon I was like all right. I'll listen to this one and it was a little tough in a lot of ways because a lot of the language that was being used was being used incorrectly but at the same time what I think is interesting and I really do think that people should listen to this especially if they're into per wrestling is even though the language was being used incorrectly and there's a lot of it so be ready for it but it you could tell that he had respect for the subject he was interviewing Nyla. You could tell that he had respect for what where she came from who she was as a person and that you know. Yeah like maybe. The language isn't fair but at the same time the language is something that can always be updated and can always be changing and always be talked to about But the actual content of the interview was was very good. Like an I I. I just basically wanted to say that but I don't know if like either of you because I know it's a very long interview for people to just hope to listen to but I hear to oppose casts and I agree with what you said because there was some language that was Kinda like. Oh okay that may not have been the best language to us but at the same time like it was a very good interview with Jericho Jericho Been very highly respectful with NYLA and What I like was I even Jerrican Mirror like oh I don't know too much about the subject so I think it's better if you explain it to me you know and and and that was the best thing that I that I knew. It was like he admitted that and letting NI- speak. That was the best thing that angel about the interview. Yeah I would agree with that. I definitely find when I tried to explain to other people about. Oh use this terminal correctly or you were maybe not quite aware of whatever aspect you're talking about and you know people can get very upset and very defensive and what I always say is nine percent. Time may be nine. You can tell if someone is speaking out of If their intention is good and they're making mistakes or if they're doing things on purpose or if they have chosen to become like our de ignorant of subjects and that was the thing that as much as I was cringing through some of the language you know he was very open he was very willing to sort of absorb things and to to show that he would learn from what he still. Battling that in my opinion is that encourages his audience to take the same approach to to you. Know if you're admire this person in your absorbing what he's saying that you're gonNA absorb bad idea when he was one of those people you know it can come up in a bad way. Because sometimes saying see the person I in the way that he was approaching that yeah and even in the interview and I again like. I'm glad I came back to the show and listened because he talked about His conversation with Don Jr. an Don Jr. apparently started talking about transpeople in sports and he ended up making edits to the podcast. Cut It out afterward after interviewing Nyla because he was like you know like it was just a it was interesting to get that context but it was just very cool to hear that he actually made some sort of change in his past even if it was a recent past. Dun Dun Unionism Very I. I prayed his chapter about transgender people. Because he fought a chapter in his book and he he he a biased. And he doesn't he doesn't get it you know and Yeah. I'm just let the crazy cody salad to promote that that section from the interview to and and I was quite surprising you mentioned that because they know that that was something that That hit de you know but I doubt was Dow off him to do that. You know and and just to have neither pros and later on explaining explains things and give now at the microphone to to speak for herself. You know And that was and then not only that Jericho turn into a supporter to. Yeah now. There there were a couple of articles or ask because he was like attack like he was being attacked for having Nile on the show and then he came back and he was like. Oh fuck you read a book. So we're we're we're going very long but I'm very happy with the conversation so what this should be an ad break but what may end up happening is I may split this into two episodes But for right now we're GONNA take an outbreak and then we're gonNA come back and we're gonNA talk about Inter gender wrestling a little bit. 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Brethren of the Lord Jesus Christ

57:06 min | 1 year ago

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"Uh-huh. Okay. So we're going to see I if I have sound, so let's see I if I had sound. Do I have sound? Okay, so. Okay. So I have so, so I'm going to add so that it's possible to join this live shot. And then I'm planning to go through. Some more about explaining here some versus. I see. Expanding something that, so now it's possible to join this livestream by clicking on the Google hangouts link in the shot window. It's also possible to, to chat to write than I will try to respond to shut in the in the shed window here. So what I'm planning to go through now is. Let's see. What I'm planning to go through is I'm going to look at some, some versus here. And that or. Let's see there it is. I made some notes, and we're gonna look at you and to pita to try to explain that from a free grace perspective. I'm going to look at talents. And the foolish virgins I think to explain that from free guess, perspective, because that can be on clear to some people. So I'm gonna let let's start here. Let's start by yet. I looking at the. Richton abroad these. Sloane for salvation, I think actually I did a slide about this. Some going to try to find that slide and try to share it as I as I say this. See. Broad road here. So. Abroad, Roeder is someone that has not trusted in Christ alone for salvation, and, and I want to do this, because there are people who are being called broder's untold. They can never come to the narrow road, and that might be the case that might be cowed beneath, so or you know, they might have not fully grasp the gospel, and never really enter dean. And then if you have some mon- who's teaching them the wrong gospel, they never will entering. So I want to help these people to come to Jesus Christ them, become once the we saved preserved in and set apart in Jesus Christ than there. Sanctified done the get the tonal security. Abroard rotary someone that has not trusting Christ for salvation someone that did not get saved by grace. Ooh, faith in Christ alone, like I on, Jude and two Peter to these are on professing Christians. So these can get Sade if they would just trust in Christ alone. Abroad, broader, who's trying to go back to the narrow road, might try to leave more seamless. You know. But that is not getting them into the narrow road because a narrow gate is Lord, Jesus Christ. You're not saved by stopping to seen stopping by stopping to sing your saved by believing Lord. Jesus christ. So the broader of you'd or two to should not try to stop sinning. But rather trust in Christ alone for salvation, they are unsaved persons. Okay. So I stated that now, now we're gonna look bit more. I think at the first I'm gonna. Stop the screen sharing. And I'm going to also look a bit more at that. Let's see. At the. Yeah, we're going to see pull up notes here and look at now. I go for notes here. Now, the notes are not. Showing I think see here. Something is messed up here. Yeah. There is one. No that I don't get I have to wait until it uploads here. To the. Now, it's slowly. Okay. So. So. The let's first look at the how does free grace explained to Peter to. And the two Peter two is if I go there, I can go there with I can share a sports searcher. So that you can follow along. Here. But there were false prophets. Also among the people, even there shall be forced each's among you who previous have bring in damnable, here, says even denying the Lord that both and bring upon themselves with destruction. And Manny show for their you know, hit says they denying the Lord that both them. And people would say here were look they are board. That means that the person can lose their salvation because they've been bored. And if we look at board you have here. Nater today's. Before we are bored with a price, therefore glorify, God in your body, and in your spirit, which are gods. Or. You're bored, with the price, but not by being not e the servants of men. See wasn't blood also. Somewhere. He says, I think that you're bored. By the blood, doesn't it say that? I don't know why I can't find that. Okay. Okay. So I can't find that so but the point is the aboard with the price. So people say that, that means that they are saved Christians, and they denied the little that brought them and then they lose their salvation. And the way I explain this as. By going to averse, which I think I remember actually the worse, it's John seventeen to. As though has given him probably rolled flesh that he should give return alive to us. Many as though has given him. And this is life, eternal that they might know the only through gutty sus Christ to whom Dow has sent. So my point is that we all everyone, even those who profess even the force Bresser are bought by low. Jesus christ. Because there's no not single human being here north who is not. You know the. Under the authority of low. Jesus christ. That is not a single even being they are. They are. No, there's no one that is truly free from lower. Jesus christ. So. So that's what I wanted. That's why board explain both there. The nine the Lord that bought them I explained that they were never saved these people. So if you go back to two Peter to here so we see that the. Though us giving him power role flesh show. So Jesus Christ has power over the lured there. They talking about, as power overrode flash show. He has power over force breath ran as well. That might go to Peter, too. But there were forced profits also Maung the people, this is talking about the Old Testament, you know, even as shall be forced teachers among you. Privilege of being in damnable. He has even denying the Lord that both them and bring opponents have saved swift destruction. So I see this doesn't mean that they want save the we saved Christiane it means that they are. They, they probably are prof. They are professed the faith in Jesus Christ say, bringing damnable here says that there's some saying these are teachers. So my at the to the two is that the phones teachers, they weren't saved in the first place, they were broad Rovers, for example, that might be, you know. But this could have been saved if they would just trust in Jesus Christ. But, you know, God can hard and someone's heart. So they will not do that. You know. So that was the two two weeks nation than we go to you'd I haven't expedition for you. Also the twice dead. Here you go down here this twice dead. Let's see where this twice that he tear twice dead. This has been something that tricked me I thought twice dead meant that they had died once in Lordy when they died. Ammos? Wrestle resurrected in Christ. That is born again. And then the second death was when they were pruned out all the, the vine, the branches of appro- nothing in I think, is Joan fifteen or something abide in the vine. They were pruned out and cost in the fight will be burned. I thought that was the case here. But twice, and I couldn't explain twice dead because I thought, well, if it doesn't mean that the second death must be at the white throne judgement. You know. But what I realized now and the white shown judgment has not occurred in, Jude when you'd happen. So it's called be that, so I will stuck there and did not understand why that now. I understand that, that the first death, he can refer to add them, the full of Adam. You know where regional seen, you know? So what people who are born into this world on unless they've been saved in the womb, you know. Like, might have, you know, some might have been. I know. But anyway, they what people they, they are born seniors. And then need to be born again, but twice dead. The second death here. A scientist on it is that they have did not. They have they have they have refused. The free gift though, salvation. These are also people dude are people on save people. That's what's important to realize both dude and to the two are not about Saint people. You know, there are many force breath in a false. Teachers full seizures people who teach something that they have a false gospel because they haven't been, they speaking today, abundance of their heart, because they have believed the false gospel. So they tried to teach force cost very simple reading, so these twice dead people. They, they have gone wrong so many times because you know, they're not saying. That it's as simple. They never been saved. They never been sanctified than ever received. The Holy Ghost. It doesn't say here that they have received only goes Streit. Let's do sort goals. To see when the. You'd. Twenty. Yeah. Exactly. It doesn't say in either in two Peter two or or in, in doesn't say that they have received only go. So these are not saved people, you know, and. To beat the two are not save and that door. So explains. To pete. Peter, let's see to beat her to here because he said something here at the end here. For. Had forty. For it had been bad there for them not to have known the way of righteousness, then after they have no need to turn from the only commandment delivered onto them. So it doesn't say that they were saved that here. But it was says that, you know, some of the gospel was preached to them, and they started to profess faith in Jesus Christ. But they were not saved. And as I understand this, you can have the Romans seven Excelsior Bachchan process, or what is called, basically that once they understand that he's a low. They start to actually see more. They people go deeper into scene. But they don't receive the holy goals start professing faith in Jesus Christ. You know, the it's not gonna help them, and I think that, that's they go to hell. So they an Halis is a thousand years before the lake of fire so they get a now. Basically, they get was it called. If they get a condemnation, ABC grade, you know, because if they were just the owner seniors, atheists, they would have not gone to hell would have gone to death and then to the lake of fire after the Whitestone judgment. But since they profess a faith in Lord, Jesus Christ by Dr not truly saved. They will actually I think to hell. And that's why it says it would have been better if they are known it. Why is that because if they had not known the way a writer that the and turn from it, then they would have been in death for thousand years, which is much more pleasant place to be than in a hell where, you know, at Lahser soared the rich man there. He's trying wants to someone to put water on his tongue, you know. So it's an extra dodge -ment there. So. So so you see here that, that. As we see here. These are on say people. To be the two are unsafe people. And that's what the whole thing is about the they saved or not to start with if they would have had the only goes they would not have. While anyway, I don't know really. These are onsite people. That's why swift destruction and denying the Lord that bought them just means that, you know, Lourdes has everyone who's alive. Lord. Jesus Christ has authority over the on saved us. Well, so. So they profess a faith in Jesus Christ. So that's the Lord, you know, but he they're not part of, of the same. No. So that's go onto something else. It can also shake quickly here. See if there is. There's nobody watching. I'm gonna check something here. Going to look at Hebrew verse one Hebrew wanders. One to to quickly here. He brew one. I want to do a God who had sundry times. Sandy, I think means different times, let's look that up and see what it says here. Sundry. Divers diverse times more than one or two several. So different times or more than one times who had Sunday Times, and in. Divers manors now divers. You look diverse we get the. Different various. In different manners. Speak in tons onto the fall by the prophets half in these days spoken on the ice by son whom he has appointed year award things by who mostly he made the world's. So it's clear that God speaks to different people at different times, and he speaks through different people as well. You know. And this is the idea behind the. This is really the, the best versus forties station. The word is possession is mentioned is mentioned here. But what is really about this God's speak, the different people at different times? And that means it is not, you know, everything is the entire bible is good for teaching in righteousness, but not necessarily doctrine in and we know that we should be establishing are harting grace. You know, that's more important than doctrine. But it can be good can save people to know doctrine. That's why I'm gonna because there are some verses in the bible that seem to contradict once they always say, we're gonna look further here. At the some things here. So let's look at the, the foolish virgins. Let's go there. Then the kingdom have been liking on the ten virgins. We took the lamps went forth to meet the bridge. Screw and five of them. But why fiber foolish that, they, they were foolish, took the lamps and took no oil with them. But the wise to call in their vessels, with alums, why the grid contarary day or slumbered and slept at midnight. There was a cry made the whole the veteran comes go out to meet him. Then will those jobs rose intrigue their lambs? And the food is said on the vice give bureau in for lamps, go now but the Weissensee not so list there, be not enough for us and you but go your other to them that sell and buy for yourself and why they went to buy the bridge Coon came, and they went where they that were ready went in with him to the marriage in the door was shot afterwards. K mostly Oliver in say Lord, Lord opened, plus. But y'all said barely I say onto I know you know, what's therefore will, you know, neither the day nor the hour in the son of man comes. So what this simply mean that we should watch, you know. We watching we should be prepared. Some people say that the oil here is the Holy Ghost, and, you know, they buy more oil, which doesn't really fit in with the idea of the Holy Ghost. So. But the. It means that we should be prepared. Always. Always be prepared for the return of Jesus Christ. But I also wanna say something else about this. Wanting to national the five Genesis defy foolish that run out of oil are those that are not truly saved start with by the five words that run out of oil are why the final words that don't run out of oil are the truly say they are seed with holy goal. So they have enough oil that they have the only goes, they can say, I can I cannot, because then I might run out of oil. A you know, they can say, I I cannot. So this is, it's a very good defense to answer to a work based foolish virgin, that tries to get free services from you is you say, I kinda give it to you, because then I might not have enough for myself. It can be short people like bobble on trying to suck the life after you, you can tell them politely that you cannot do what they ask, because then you might not have enough full yourself. You know, that's this can be a way to respond to short people. Now, this is interesting also for because the foolish words than they would go and buy all, wouldn't they because the day they are work based elation is or whatever they, they, they don't understand. You know. Yeah. It's like you can buy penance. Do you could buy? From Catholic pope, you could buy yourself free from sin. You could give money as on and. That they are the foolish virgins here. You know, but they are not saved. You know, so the foolish virgins are not safe and this, this is not about narrow. Some people came, this is the narrow say that those that do not persevered to the end having only goes to the end, they will actually. They will actually. Be the foolish five virgin, they'd be Bibi shot out out out of the. Of the kingdom of God. But that's into probation is wrong here. I think because. You know this old stuff about buying oil is not it's not a good parable for the holy goals for, for safe Christians, all it goes. It might be good parable for falls, Christians. Maybe a Catholic tries to by himself free from sins. You know, so foolish virgin. Yeah. That Catholics could be foolish virgins. Yeah. And they, they, they, they generally not truly saved so they shut shutout. They are not that one. Dan, to the kingdom of God. So in that sense, this payroll is true, but also see here that you can use this, when church, people demand things of you, you can say, like call to give that to you. But then I might not have enough for myself, you can say to them. And they will get really they will get like face palm. If you say that to them, but it might be it works. I'm going to try to do that. I think someday, I don't know really. We're going to look at the let's see if you go to Hebrew, six eight quickly. Hebrew, six eight. But that which beer, thorns seats rejected his nine onto coursing who's Andy's to be burned. Now, they explain for this, because this sounds also that if you if you beer. Bad fruit? You'll be burned you go to hell. It sounds like. If you go up there bit. Let's see here for it is impossible for those who were once a light than have tasted the heavenly, give them where made partake of the Holy Ghost. And I've tasted the good word of God and the power of the world to come if they fall away to renew them again, onto repent and seeing that crucified to themselves to send them fresh put into an Oprah shame for the us, which drink in the rain that comets often upon it, and bring it for tarps meat for them by whom distressed receive his blessing from God. But that's which bears thorns embraces rejected is now onto crossing who's in east to burden. So you see. But below we are persuaded better things of you and things that are companies ovation. The always be speak. God is not unrighteous to forget your work in labor of love which you have show towards his name in that you have ministered to the saints, and do minister. Well, that seems to me that, you know is working in charge. Why does doesn't have to be short? But he but working, you know for saints and we decided that everyone of you do show, the same deal against to the full assurance of hope, but through them, but you being slothful, but follow them that who through faith, impeaches inherit the promise for when God made promise to Abraham because you could swear by not swear by himself. With a foreigner is for us entered even Jesus made in high priest forever after the Kissidougou. Okay. So the my point teary what I've heard is that the Greek the Greek explanation burned here at what I've heard now I haven't doubled checked this. But they said that burned here. Is actually talking about. The thorns and the Briars are burned, not the ground. And that's we know you know that we will be pruned the bad for the, the you will be pruned, you know, a by when you're binding venue. Some branches will be pruned away and so on. But. Okay. So I don't know really, if that's true because I haven't been able to check the Greek here, you know. Who is to be burned? But that one way to explain this, basically that. This is also talking about someone who abroad, roader, simply someone who was not really saying, you know, it says here that the they've made partake of the Holy Ghost was boastful, while have taste of having to give them or made partake of the Holy Ghost in oh and have tasted good works and the power. So the world if they showed full away to renew the Monterey pendants, seeing that crucified themselves son, fresh and put him to open shame. So this could be a broader, but some people would say here that it means that people can lose their salvation, the Coasties. They up tasted. The only goes it says. And then who's Andy's to be burned. It says. You know that sounds like hellfire. But I could mean here that it's the fruit their fruit thrones and Briars that are burned. Or it could simply mean that they. Because the, the point is here really that you're receive the Holy Ghost when you for faith alone. Lord, Jesus Christ is not by acts of righteousness. And once you have the only ghost, you will bear good fruit. You know. So you this person was not truly saying, you know. That's, that's how I see it. You know. The. I don't know if, if I'm completed, right with this. Hebrew, six. I haven't looked much into it. We're going to go on here. In fact, I'm gonna look a bit that this now quickly. What is that? He says here he Bruce six it says like this. Let's see the second was the negative, judgments, if God cut off the opportunity to press on. Let's see. Major. The believers compared to the us, which can either be useful be useful fruit or be useful. If us for useless on the earth is rejected. But the key moss is better translated not standing the test. And that's unqualified worthless. According to go to the earth, that BS user, thrones set on fire the burn the thrones so that the author makes might become productive in the future. It is important to note that you're in a language. They are the only one or not to and eat. The believer is not burned, but the thorns which the believer produces this judgement of God would be temporal since its goal is to produce to practice the judge believers life. So this could be a kind of pruning process by God. That's what they saying here. That it's a pruning process. And. And they compared to our ago, the aggregate agricultural pro practice. Of a burning fields to, you know, you do that to, to improve because you than the than the neutrons in the ashes is reused. So it's way, too and your bar NAR. You know, it's a way to, to that the farmers do so the field does is destroyed because it's burned. But, but actually, the fruit is burned and we have that. So I think this is a pruning or the talking about here. That same. Joan fifteen. It says burned here. If a man abide Noten me's caused fourth as and with their that men gathered them and cost them into the fire and they are burned. Yeah. That is talking about his physical, death because not God, that burns man that owns them. If you're biding, many, me, and my words of by the usual, also what you will, any chubby Don onto you. So we are to by Jesus cross Christ. Awaits the pruning taking place place. Prune. Let's see if I can find it quickly. Okay. John, fifteen to hear mcgarth here every branch in me that there's not fruity takeaway, and everybody that BS food key purchase it that it may bring forth. More fro-? So the parching here. So these pruning, taking place on those beer fruit, those who don't bear fruit. They are taken away. And you know, but I don't think that means yet could mean physical death, but they're not retaking about half fire and this is what multifold teachers will tell you. You know what I talk to I listen to false teacher. And he is totally coincidence, south is the wheat, but then he's teaching that you can lose your salvation as east goes on about that time and time again, I think it's basically a way for him to, to kind of get. Get it some kind of advantage against others. He tries to teach people that they can lose their salvation, but he cannot so, you know, so you can people can do kinds of things as, as long as people. Listen to them. That's, that's all this man has a natural following of people listening to then he can do those kind of things. People still listening. He gets its natural advantage when he's, he's actually doubled timed. You know, he says he's not is not. He is doubled town. Yeah. So we continue now anyway for some gonna look and see if there's anyone listening. There's nobody listening in. There are no comments. So I'm gonna look if there's anymore here expansion of the talents. So we're going to quickly go to talents here. The parable of the talents is in Matthew eighteen. And you said on the ice, not onto the anti seventy let's see, therefore his kingdom ahead like it onto southern game, which would take account to Servent than when he had begun to reckon while most broad onto him which old him ten thousand talents, but for us much as he had not to pay his commodity him to be sold and his wife and children, and all that he had payment to be made the servant, therefore fell down than worshiped him saying, Lord. How patients than I will pay the now this is not the talent. I on the wrong. It's Matthew twenty five. Here it is for the kingdom of having this as a man traveling into account through cortisone servants delivered onto him them his goats. And on the one he gave five dollars to another two and two now the and to another one to every man, according to several ability and straight the way to his yawny. Then he that had received the five talents, went and traded with the same and made them other five talents. And likewise, he that had received two heels a gain others, too. But he that had received one went, and then the oth and he'd his Lord's money after line longtime the Lord of those servants come within wreck recognize with them. And so he that had received five talents came in broad, other five talent saying, no doubt delivers don't me five talents. Behold, I have gained beside them five talents. More. Lord said on team well done thou. Good faith for Sarvant, though, has been faithful over a few things I will make the ruler over many things entered out into the joy of the Lourdes, he also that had received two talents came in said Lord that liberates don't need to talents. Behold, I've gained two other talents, beside them is Lord said on him. Well done. Good faith for seven has been faithful over a few things, I would make the ruler many things entered into the overnight lured, then he which had received one talent came and said, Lord, I knew the, the that the war third hard and art, man. Reaping where the has not shown Gannon whether has not stored and I was afraid and went and hid die talent in their slow. They are though has that line is what it said on the Dow wicked slows for servant, though, newest, I reap where I saw nothing gather where I have not stored the waters. There for to have put my money to the trencher then and then at my coming, I should have received my own with Austria, take their for the talent from him and give it to him, which has ten talents, won't everyone that have shall be given. And he shall have abundance. But from him that has not shall be taken away, even that which has caused you. They profitable seventy dollars to darkness, there shall be weeping, and gnashing tease. Okay. So this stuff about there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth here in the Kate's that the person who had to go to see one talent. He ended up in hell. So just because you don't have quite a lot of ability doesn't mean that, that you should, you know, hide your talent. But what is this really talking about? And we to see what this is talking about. We have to go to relations four three two seven. As let's go that quickly. Even so we were she ended up in bondage on the elements of the world. But when the fullness of the time was come odd sent forty sound made a woman made on the low to redeem them that were under the law. We might through the adoption so Sam, because south Scott said for the speed it all these some into your heart crying by father, where for the normal servant, but a son, and if a son than year our God through Christ notice year that, you know, Mer servant by the sun. And my point here that the those that are saved they are sons. Oh, got it says. And if you go back here to the talent. In Matthew twenty five. We see that they eases Sarvant they all starving here, but. But what we see here is that. The one received one talent here, he was Sarvant. And he went in he'd is talent in your because he was frayed. I was the frayed. So we are not to be afraid. We ought to be bold. And he was afraid of low. Jesus christ. And you should not be that good. No de-subscribe come to condemn people come to save people though, the whole point here is do not be afraid. Low, Jesus Christ than I thought that, that basically men that we should always, you know, not, you know, never turn away from people who accused us of things because we are. You know, we, we shouldn't be afraid, but when I read about two Timothy two about the from such turn away the force accusers crystals who are accused from such turn away. I realize the bible does not teach the ghost teach us in that way because, you know, false accuser, you should turn away from. You know, because the more contact you have with them the more ground, they have for their force accusations said the eventually, they claim are known this guy for two years, or something I talked him a lot. You know, and, you know, he's lettuce that you see, so therefore sacrifices become stronger. If you spend, if you don't turn away from them. So there are certain churches that you should not go to if they're foles accusers there. And once I realized realize this, we shouldn't be afraid of Jesus Christ. But doesn't mean we shouldn't be afraid of some Christians or afraid, maybe sarong word, but. We should turn away from them. Was at Perennials times, you know. So. So we don't fear Jesus Christ. And remember that? If you have been saved your son, you know, already you're, you're not a servant anymore. And this person who had one talent he was a Sarvant. It said, not a song, the Suns at they have torn life. They have eternal security, and they have there once will we say they are. Sealed onto onto the redemption. So that was at about that. Find something else here. Let's see I have one Peter four six here, I have some explanation for. So we go there one, Peter. For six so he can read a bit go up a bit. Where in they think it strays that you're not with them to the same exit. Right. Speaking evil of you so people can start speaking evil of you. When you don't wanna leave sin for life, they can call your Pharisee, for example, when you don't wanna live in for life van the thing, I've been thinking about this, because you can actually moralize people to the point that you give them burdens that they cannot. You know. That they, they give them to have burdens. So the Justice join people make them twice the you know. Make disciple of Satan or of no. Because you put burdens on them that they don't beer and the problem is internet. You know, this stuff, which has said, Beukah. The byu. Out there, so that others may fear. I don't know exactly the wording, but basically that that should happen in church, not on the internet. Where will it happens? You know, you know, in if that is in charge, it stealing in a closed environment than if you happens on video on internet. Not only can it be repeated said twice. But also, it's actually. Moung wicked people because see too. You know, when you say in charge, so store that can be. Rumors can go gossip and so on. But, but still people don't read Noah wins on its word goes by word of mouth. They don't really know what's true. It's on. But when it said on the on video. So the internet is really not a good environment for, for biblical living. And for fellowship. I think it's not really good for fellowship in that sense, because we contribute, people Biblically that sense. So, but no. I myself people quote me a Pharisee or insinuate, that would be fair because of that I- I preach against preached against Satan. And you know, we could be moralizing to preach against sin. Yeah. You're not saved by by stopping to seen so, so. Yeah. In that says, but same time pulled us preach. You know, talk about that, that we should not say this on the that we should know how to. You know which are out the temple of God. And therefore, we should not do so things or tried to not it's not like, you know, so we are to be followers pool. So this stuff about pitching sin. He's not really wrong, but it's not something you can do for salvation towards people people. Get saved that way. And when you're on the internet like this, you yours, there might be people there who are on save this name this stuff about the internet. It does it does destroy the, the biblical out. Things should be done Biblically, because there should be a close group. That's why I've tried to start a close group. I've tried to start on different platform. Same page are your your slack? I tried where the beat via thick sores ago Beatrix of e you. So when I wanted to start some close environment, but even then you know, you can have screened dumps, and you cannot people so the. The internet in itself, might not be suitable for biblical fellowship in the first place. So then you have to go to your local church. And so maybe I should block people that, that, that seems to be the way to go ahead. You know, people that, that are bothering the wrong way. Also. To stop strife might might be the block people. But, but, you know, sometimes I've had other problems with people calling me, and so on. And. Even coming by my house and entering my house without permission looking around and not, you know, then using that information against me, you know, and, or, you know, you know, contact me through various forums, very, very energetically as soon as so I've had these problems with people that are beyond what's what, you know, Maly would expect from making your videos, but I did have them, you know and. That will make me understand something. But, but still, I still that's why I think that shorts might be better. To be part of your. Because that's a closed environment in that sense. Who shall give count to him? That is ready to the quick, end the dead. For for this course was the gospel preached, also, to them that are there that they might be judged according to men in the flesh. But leave according to God in the spirit. But the end double thinks he's hand be there, sober more Trump to prayer. So what is this to this is one forces that they might be judged, according to many in the flesh, but goading to God in the spirit? So. What does this mean? For this was across also. Now for what goes, biff because were ready to, to, to jazz quick data because we could men must give accounting, man, therefore the gospels speeds to them. Also, they might be left without this. But over that they an which does not so much preaching. By the gospel is good news. Salvation. To them that are dead. Dead interest sincere. Though. This is a case of mankind. God's select in a state of nature. Weather user, Jan Johnson, the gospels pitch to, to as sorted to be preached to nations. Derek Jeter is means. They, they might be judged, according to many in the flesh. Meany the that's either that such persons that receive in professor gospel suffer for our judge, according to jot metal men that are in the flesh in on renege your generates, that's appoint we as Christians can still be judged by men that are not saved carnal, men like court, and you might have someone Bob, you because of submarine, you know, in society. You know. Leave. According to riled day, live Konta, guardian spirit, why they were here on earth. The gospel preached to them had such an effect upon them as them to leave spiritually by faith in Christ on Christ to live a life of wholeness from communion with him and to according to the will, of God, K, so. We see here that, yeah, we can be judged by men in the flesh in this doesn't mean we lost our salvation. As we see her year, Lieber judge for management, but leave Konta garden spirit. So you see. Yeah, you can't be judged by men in the flesh. And you can end up in prison. You can end up co kinds of places doesn't mean you, you're not saved you know, you're still, you're still if you want. Save always say you're still going to live, according to God's spirit, you know, because you're saved. Because you have the Holy Ghost. You say you can quench the Holy Ghost. But he will not leave you. You're seeing is is there. But if you continuously seen God will not see guarding through you, but he only goes was still be there. And you were bear more fruit fruit. If you live a holy life doesn't mean you should be self righteous proud, you know, and this is also when it comes to preaching against sin. I think it's it doesn't work if you're self righteous, or if you. Hypocrite, hypocrites also dangerous. If you commit since they mothers for it the, this kind of stuff, some people do this kind of. That might be someone who commits certain state in start blaming others for that sin. It's called some kind of psychological. Projection. I think it's. That, that's being a hypocrite in. It's a serious in. These did doesn't like it creates. So if we preach, you're sorta things we should think about. And these are we shouldn't be proud, and we shouldn't put borders on other shoulders that they cannot bear which is very difficult to shake over the internet. So that's why say internet is not as as, as useful a medium as people think any fact that churches aren't as good either. They might they better than internet, but they're not really because in many cases, you don't know how people feel about things you know, I, I had a bond person, I think is a FOX in charge. He he claimed that he had this social Kompass. You know. And that guy was was a total. The anti Christ, you know, total dangerous still claim. They had this social competences some claim that that was Jesus, you know, in that the was Jesus, so something. So b b BA wear of these Christians, and they said, they mostly mostly the most aggressive people to contact you most aggressively, contact you are the people that are the most dangerous and most lethal. Not I'm not I'm being deliberately vague here because this is not about the person. It's about the principal. You know. Jacek gonna be. But the end over things that have be there for sober watch onto pray. You see here we ought to watch again. You see, we are to be watching sober, and pray. But be aware that you can be judged by unsaved men here on earth in the flesh men in the flesh. So that doesn't mean you're not saved. Let's see if I had something more I'm gonna shake of their questions here. There's nobody watching no chat questions. Let's see if I have any more. Okay. I think that's it actually that I Donald things now. So. So let's see again that there are no questions here. Yeah, there's nobody online. There are no questions. Okay. So. Godless all of you got misspending those who love Jesus Christ. You know, I wanna bless you, and we shoe, godspeed, speed all of your love logistics, Christ. And I wanna pray slow Jesus Christ Lord and savior's. Well. Bye. For now.

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Danger Gnome Podcast  2019 Birkie Champion Corey Stelljes

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Danger Gnome Podcast 2019 Birkie Champion Corey Stelljes

"The danger zone podcast numidian Quattro. Welcome to the danger dome podcast. I'm your host of Oculus known as and in this episode of the GP we launch a new segment called ask atom, their dear friend, Adam Blake, and then spinner, and I interview two thousand nineteen by Erkki men's champion, Corey Stoll GIS all of that and more right after this now. Hey, welcome to our new segment, it's called esque, Adam. And it's a it's with our friend and bicycle professional, Mr Adam Blake regarding going good, man. How you doing very well? So Adam is a pro bike senior from way back. I mean, Adam do we're on we're on the podcast world. So I have to describe like you have a park pedal ranch tattooed forearm or is it on your four? Liam. Yeah. So and and nipple twister ranches on your on your body somewhere. So by gnomes on thing on top of, you know, being employed by the bike industry since he was a lad he has all that for him. So we have a and where where are you is world of bikes? Right. And I was city. We're all the bike than I was sitting. Yeah. Bending around for forty five years the shop path and be my fifth year with world the bikes I worked for a while. And then took a break to kinda get deeper in the industry, and and came found my way back. Nice. I will see and there's the US are doing some really cool group overnight rides. Right. What do you call? No. Yeah. Adventure series, eight different events all twenty four hour. Overnighters from as little as twenty eight miles round trip of two hundred five miles round trip. Cool try make one of those this year, that'd be awesome. So but our segment is called ask Adam. So you know, we have a question from one of our readers Sebastian gag Nolan. He he writes, I ride a Rocky Mountain Suzie Q. Fifty this bike has twenty seven point five by three point eight tires on mulefoot sixty five millimeter wide, rims a load, the bike, and it's very happy with it for my winner setup. Put a Forty-five north Dylan jer tires on there for icy conditions and he's in southern Ontario Canada. So he his the we'll get to his question here as I Don I want to start bike packing this summer. Do you have any suggestions about tires for better rolling resistance? I could keep the orig-. Maxus minions and blow them up to higher pressure. Do you think I could fit twenty seven point five buy three tires on those sixty five millimeter wide, rims says, ultimately, I could get new rooms with a setup with twenty nine inch tires, and then he says what do you suggest to get this baby rolling in the hot summer day, planning on a few warm up trips of one hundred miles fifty miles to my location and back. The next day. I says he wants to get his setup dialed for three hundred kilometers tour in August. Awesome. So doctor, what do you think? Yeah. Well, I think that we have a few bridges to cross I think that there's a an more entry level way that we can make improvement to the bike. And I think there's a away with a little bit more monetary investment that we make substantial improvements to the bike my first recommendation or option would probably be just analyzing fat tire three point higher because that's sixty five mil rim is not super wide. You can get a nice around higher-profile something like terrible Coronado or something like that those role really fast and proven to be very valuable in mix for, you know, not a great snow tire. But we're not really talking about no tires right now. Right for all around her that favors rolling. Assistance and Mike you a little bit in traction. But good on everything, especially right. There's always going to be a fair amount of gravel and pavement in this whole Maltese surface. Bag of tricks nation destination writing like rarely do you get one continued surface for fifty miles or three hundred kilometers, quite right. You know? So so I think that's a valid valid option. You know, I would be hesitant to just pump hires up because you're really losing ride quality which is going to become important as you're right distance increases, especially with a loaded down bike for firm tire. And just bouncing across gravel may not feel as competence inspiring. And may not be sustainable. I think ultimately for me the consideration would have to be made especially since he brought it up of a different you'll size something that is tailored more towards exactly what he wants to do. My preference would be to go to the twenty. Nine by three five twenty nine plot. F- for a couple reasons I think that in mixed surface. It rolls. Very well. It has confidence inspiring. It's going to rule a lot faster than twenty six three eight though, especially once you get it up beat. There are more tires available now, but like maybe a maxis chronicle or something like that. That's an intermediate tread. That's that's very valid my concern with going twenty seven and a half by three which he mentioned is two fold the sixty five. No Ramos, probably just a little wide for a three inch tire. I would prefer to see more like a forty five millimeter ramp and second fold in that is I would be concerned if we were including single track or more technical trails in our journey. Ernie about a lower bottom bracket height because that twenty seven and a half by three eight is going to be larger diameter than twenty seven and a half by three and affectively dropped the whole bike which could feel good for load. Your centering the gra- or, you know, lowering the center of gravity, but may increase pedal strikes, or may compromise cornering ability things like that. Yeah. I can sign one of the things that I would say, you know, really stress because you know, yes. I work in a bike shop. Yes. Our goal is to get you on the best product. Sometimes there costs associated with that and a twenty nine. Plus, we'll set what you figure him hub spoke higher to bliss setup. Hopefully, maybe even a cassette and Roeder. So they're somewhat interchangeable that's going to have the most monetary cost. But if you're making a time and Beth went to train for a three hundred K bike packing journey or even fifty mile each wage earnings. I think the monitoring investment is is justified by your prime investment. You know, there takes training that takes dedication and sometimes having the most often. Able components for that makes the entire experience a lot better. Sure. You know, if he had just mentioned, I just wanna do tires what tired ereck amend. Well, then we have a little different conversation because we're talking maybe two hundred dollars for a pair of fat tires. You know, if you ever take fifty bucks, and we're talking maybe a thousand dollars for twenty nine plus we'll set right for an eye for an ally. For an hour ran with a reasonable hub. Spoke a cassette road, or or you know, up to high threes low fives, if you wanna bling it out in the name brand dist- crazy carbon and right American made fine machines, right? Limit on how much you want to spend on on the wheel set. I would probably quote, a baseline expectation of seven hundred fifty eight hundred bucks. Yeah. When you figure it all in and if you have somebody built the wheel for you. So there's waiver involved and stuff like that. You may be crafts. You may be getting close to dollars. And there are some great tires. The the toria has some great tires. Forty five. North has some great tires that the new terror Vail tires that Coronado tire in twenty nine. Plus and in fat is just the smoothest rolling. Easiest rolling thing. Yeah. Proven in in mixed surface writing to you know, like Kranz who you interviewed road, those still win thirty Kantha fat by addition Clara, or you know, the fat Mike class so that tire can roll. And in the direction, I wouldn't off at that Wrightson. I think you could see some significant improvement in rolling resume. Instance enrolling capabilities. But again, my my question would be how much are you going to are you willing to invest in the that time you can possibly have? You know what I mean? Yeah. Sure. But that's not to say if if you're on a limited budget, you could possibly higher great. You know, you could possibly do better with a. A host redo tire or tyre for and they would be able to run on that sixty five millimeter room. I thought it was an interesting question because it was you know, if he was on eighties the new wheels that would be a natural. But because it was on that Twitter size. I thought well, I think we should call and ask him. I would just think if if you're asking for my ultimate recommendation, you know, cough, not, you know, considered, of course, at all times. But not the the premium we have a budget for things I think that differentiation what a twenty nine plots or even twenty nine by two six maybe tire size could do in mixed train versus a twenty six five three eight. I think that's where you notice the differences and ride quality substantial differences in rolling resistance handling cornering things like that, you know, and twenty nine plus more prevalent than than and more tire options than there's ever been before. Right. Quite right. And that sweet spot as far as rim with for this adventure by channel. Yeah. Is like this thirty to forty four or somewhere in that range. Yeah. I usually if as a. General rule. I do about a forty for a to any. I do forty five for three. Oh, just to get the nice profile anything in that range from probably like you said thirty two to thirty five up to forty five all be workable. You know to blitz obviously, the consideration. I don't think it was mentioned whether they were running to us or not at would have to be put into consideration, you know, just for puncture protection, ride quality lower wage things. Like that. Right. Well Sebastien now. Now, you know what to do? Yeah. Maybe maybe because the bastion is going to choose some quote, unquote, warm up, right? Maybe the first investment is in tires, and you just see if they perform the way you would expect them to perform, and if they don't then you look to invest more, you can always unload tires at a reasonable price hand, or you could keep them for alternative usage or something like that, you know, or the trading boards or up your buddy and say, hey, are you reading those Bamba loonies right now? Right. All right, sir. We'll thanks for coming on is the danger dome podcast and up next. We have somebody the one the Burki his name is Cory Stelle GIS. All right. This is going to be part of the danger zone podcast. We honest with you because I think we have enough for show one forty four already. So that puts you in pretty good company because I've been you know, saving all of that stuff for me is a danger Nome. Well, it's gnomes in is there variable rates of danger. You know, there's the danger of you know, stubbing your toes versus and there's the danger of missing, you know, maybe the next meal are you'll variable levels of of danger. Probably not very dangerous though. But you're dangerous, man. Anyway. We're gonna start this out. So this is the danger dome podcast, and we have with us here at Neff cycle circus service. Not circus. We'll be crazy. The only spinner t Ryerson here. He is normally on the dose of fat podcast, but he's put on a pointed hat and joined us on the danger gnome podcast, which ends up today. I am you're a killer gnome as I kind of love that. But you know, that's what you do when you say a fake name. And the reason why we're here at Neff cycle service is to interview Corey Stelle. Just the winner of the two thousand eighteen fat bike Burkey. I thought it was through the nineteen two thousand nineteen. Nineteen. Yeah. Yeah. You're it is Ken. I hey, that's really in the years still. I mean, you get a pass pro I all right? We're close. But yeah, you're you're okay. So Corey is joining us, and he's we're gonna talk about the fat bike Burkey his triumphant Jamf in ship and spinner actually said he had a pretty interesting race story to tell. So we're up after the race in the in the outside beer garden party place thing, whatever it is. So before the race we interviewed Chris Stevens. And he said last year that he just decided to go out and put the pain hurt on everyone from the very first is that how did how did it work out this year? Did you did you have any conversations with Chris before the race or well, no, I I didn't like beg for mercy or anything stars? I was going to see what his strategy was actually I was listened to the podcast we had him on. And I was trying to grab some until for the race you stole his strategy. And so did you know gathered some until their he talked a little bit about his strategy gave away few secrets, so I made some notes and he brought a team you probably already guys. Yup. Yup. So all I had to do was outright a team of forty guy. I knew I could win. Yeah. So it's like that bring it on nice. So did he keep a contingent with him? I mean, the race starts in elite group forms are disease have teammates in Italy group. I think I think a few of us teammates did make it up into the league group. So the league group was a little bigger this year. It was probably. I would say close to twenty guys for I twenty K. I think some people were kinda yoyo in off the off of that front pack and yes off you of his teammates come up there. There was one guy. Took a flyer off the front, you know, maybe ten fifteen K in the rest of the field. I think was pretty wise to it. So didn't really affect the race that launched. So they didn't react to that to the attack. You know, I think not initially than at one point Ted king kind of jumped up on on a short little flyer that someone took and and then I kind of saw that happen in figured, well, you know, to he's he's definitely retainers, man. So figured out a jump up on his wheels. Well, and. I was. Nothing. Nothing too dangerous early on. I think everyone was just kind of feeling one another out. Is kind of the usual stuff. So is it still the course that takes you out to the turnaround double-o, correct? Although it was I guess you could say rehearse counterclockwise this year, it was it was clockwise. Yeah. Yeah. So went out on the classic trail back on the skate, which if you're familiar with the trail, the classics trail is generally a little more wind -i in a little less firm on the grooming because I think they run the the big piston bullies over the skate trail with like the full width. Groomer whatever you want the classic. They won a little deeper snow. Yeah. Yeah. So usually it's kind of a hammer fest on the way out on the hard packed scape trail, and then it's a little kind of high-speed to wheel drift E ON the way back through the classics trail, depending on how fresh people are, you know, it can be it can get a little little fast and loose. If everyone's kind of burned all their matches. You know, maybe not. So kind of have to weigh that with the race strategy. And now, you know in tire pressure choice things like that. But with with the direction it was this year. I thought it was a little more predictable that it was going to be hard on the way out from both perspectives. It was going to be hard because it was generally more uphill on the way out down-home away back, and it was also going to be hard because it was the classic trail on the way out which the snow is generally little slower. So. Yeah. I thought it was going to be a little bit more heavy on the pedal side on the way out and then. It was going to be pretty fast. Pretty fast and straight on the way home. So. If if as it turned out, I've our would actually be harder to ride off the front solo on the way back because you be more exposed you have less Khanna turning technique skills sections on the way back at higher speed and and firmer ground, and yeah, yeah. If if you've never had the chance to ride on that trail up there, it's it's really just a very unique experience in that. It's not really even groomed for the race. But it's groomed. If you own daily for months leading up to the race. So it's just a hard packed surface. You know, more smooth than asphalt ju- Crete. Yeah. Yeah. It's it's really unbelievable is really unique experiences to just to get to ride those trails is probably one of Elaine handful places in the country than those conditions exist. There were there any crashes in the front group. I didn't personally see any. But I heard that there were a few behind me. Will there is? There was quite a few in front of me as ways back. I wonder if that the the speed people are able to get it was hard. They started turning their bike like they were on pavement. I saw a lot of yard sales. Probably ten really. Wow. Yeah. I I did not realize that. Yeah. You can definitely kind of get in over your head. If if you just lay off the brakes and ride as hard as you can and think that you can just, you know, go no breaks every corner because. Yeah. It allows you to to go fast enough to to get yourself in trouble on the very edges of the trail. Where like the little little edge of the screen to the groomer. Is it looks like ROY? But then it gets it gets soft like right at that little kicker on the edge of the trail. And it looks like he can almost like treat it like berm. You can't because the snow underneath the flat earth falls off. Right, right. We all know that the earth is flat. A few people. Dispute resolved letting. Yeah. So you're in the you're in this elite group of twenty people and the thing that I just learned was those twenty people are not only fast, but they can keep the bike upright going fast in variable conditions, right? Right. Well, you know, if you think about it you have to be fast or the faster yard more fit. You are. You generally ride your bike at a higher speed because you're you're able to peddle faster. So you're always practicing going faster, you kind of forces you to develop a wide range of skills, and you know, be able to to handle those conditions when the conditions will like you're saying we're talking on our last show. The kid conditions can be different on the same course every time in this year was no exception. So that's true. Yeah. So you hit that turnaround. And then what? Yeah. So I was I was studying the the course little bit beforehand, and I knew after the turnaround. It was going to be about five K. And then you're gonna get a pretty decisive climb on the return leg where you kinda go up over the fire tower lime. It's not the same fire tower hill you ride in Sean again forty but it's the same ridgeline yet. The same ridge lines not you don't go in the same exact tracks. But it's still pretty decent hill. After that. I didn't feel like there was a big decisive climb from their third till the end. So if if the conditions allowed, you know, I thought that was a a good place to to maybe stage in attack. And yeah, I think probably other people were were thinking the same thing. So yeah, just kinda counting down the ks after the turnaround and then kinda hit the the body. Pitch of of that that large climb in Joe Ziya up put in a little dig on the the bottom slope there, and I was on his wheel. And I saw that we got little gap. And then about halfway up seemed like, you know, maybe the pace slacken a little bit and kinda kinda looked origins. I, you know, he just looked like you as you know, hunched over the bar is a little bit like suffering in. I just can't tell myself. Well, all right. You know, this is this is what we talked about. So, you know, isn't how are not really you're gonna make a movie there do it. And so yeah, just just decide to ride that that second pitch pretty hard and one over the top kinda a talked and went down the pretty high-speed descent after that and not not where I was really able to look back. I just kind of focused on keeping the bike upright in and going fast. But then I look back, and you know. Thought maybe right away kinda got up about ten second gap. And and it's just kind of saying, okay. You know, this this is this isn't. This time to to be fully committed fully committed till the end. So that's just always you could sense weakness in new down. Well, let in the water, and you said about twenty K left at the rate is about twenty K yoga so twenty fab. I discovered the long ways those case don't come as fast, as you know, because you're for that fifteen case EDNA ten case. Fifteen case assign I figured all man felt like all ready been out here for twenty minutes. Only gone five. I couldn't believe it. I thought there's no way there's no way I'm gonna make it because those guys and they were they were crawling back up to me. You know, they're they're real. And in the line. You see them working together behind you? Yeah. Yes. I think four of them working together. So that. Yeah. It's always intimidating to look back and see a group before like that. And you think oh man I got out ride four guys now. And you know, really know how the cooperation is behind you. And it's sometimes it's it's kind of an advantage. If you think all the four people gone, you have their own aspirations of winning because I think they're a little they hesitate a lot to do a lot of work. So most kinda watching them every Vic Cristobal hill can take take a peek back and just kinda take stock of the you know, who was leading an how they looked and boy that four of them they they almost road right back up to me in the than we had a couple fast downhills and some straits and put in a few big efforts. And and then, you know, I really my spirit's really lifted at one point like back and forward become too. And then I kinda went from this attitude of all feeling sorry for myself. I wasn't gonna make it again. Okay. This has a real shot. Now says kind of turning who were those two behind you. I think it was Chris Stevens. And just I admit it, and it looked like it. They were kind of alternate. But it seemed like every time like back side. Doing the work. Well, yeah. And I don't it's kind of hard to tell because he can't see everybody all the time over the crest of those and does is a taller guy. So maybe I just saw him because he is head was over the us seems like sometimes I only see him. You can have a part of the course where like were you trying to make the most time up in the most bead like in the downhills and the flats onto climbs did you? Yes. So you stick which you can get and try to go into a little bit different mode on your off the front like that. And just try to ride a rod really efficient Louis so take rests on the downhill where you can just talk in get get some free speed use the free speed of the downhills, and then really kind of. Worked the pills as much as you can. But it almost seemed like I was gaining a lot of time on the flats because and I don't know if this is the case or not you have to ask the guys behind me. But kinda get the sense, you know, in a flat into a little win like that. You know, maybe the cooperation behind me just was not great. And while I was piling hard hundred percent time, you know, maybe people behind me. We're only pedal hired, you know, eating percent of the time. They had these little gaps in cooperation that allowed me to sneak away a little bit more. I've been in the chase group. That's definitely been the case. Okay. It's very frustrating. So I know how that feels to be in the chase group and have that negative racing. I know that happens a lot. So in that regard, you know, sometimes it's a little bit of an advantage to to be out front. Sure. I could I could see that working out where you know, you're waiting for the you've been working, really hard, and you're redlining. And you're like all right guy. Now you and he doesn't pull his weight, and you're like damn I'm not gonna I'm not gonna work so hard for you. And yeah. Yeah. That that can have a lot you know, when when two people they feel like they they wanna win and they feel like they can win. So it's a very even match. Steinem ex bike racing in. This is probably one of the only fat bike races that that really comes into play. This is where the your political savvy in the in the in the group, you know, your your ability to sway your fellow racer. Jedi mind trick them into war. It's hard to say can for you and convince them that you're working for them as well. So. You're coming into like the last five K. Do you does anybody telling you, what the gap is? Do you do, you know where those guys are they within sight of you? It's a no one's telling me, what the gap is. But I can look back and see them on longer straights. So I can kind to mate at somewhere. I thought it was right around twenty seconds. Yeah. Yeah. Past powerline because the last three ks the power line road words way open, and you can probably see half a mile. Well, you can. But you can't see a little hill rises. So you can only see the the trail, you know, in the valley between the hills. Yes. So I guess when I thought it was really in jeopardy allot a lot of the time. But then at five Kate ago, I felt like maybe the aired gone out of the chase a little bit. And I felt that gap stretch out and five Kate ago. I I kind of thinking, okay, I think this is going to happen. I think I'm gonna make it to make it. Yeah. 'cause you get the power lines segment, and you know, you can you can smell home at that point. And it's just when when you're in the lead like that, it just gives you skew that extra little a burst of of motivation that they would never otherwise have it just. You just you're able to to dig that much deeper in especially when it's fair a really meaningful a big win like that race. Yeah. Ordinary people can sometimes do extraordinarily things we not exactly order. So this. So this. So and it just point. You're feeling good. You ever hit like a a low of it doesn't sound? Who? Yeah. I know I've been feeling free. Sorry for myself. You know, maybe fifteen K to go thinking. Well, I mean, what was I doing what am I out here? Like, these guys, they're they're almost ridden. Back up to me like that was just a wasted move. You know, what was I think in like four guys behind me, they're all and cannot ride that many as but just kind of self talk. You know, can gotta stick with it. Well, I'm going, you know, I'm I'm all in I'm going to ours. I can tell to our wheels are overlapping, I'm going hard like not not until the very bitter end. They're gonna have to ride every inch of that gap down and get me. Yeah. What's your nutrition stuff, water, bottles and stuff like that? Did you? A lot of like PBR. Yeah. Is not as good. Drinking enough times. If we never heard that nobody has ever said, I'm not drinking. Drinking. Alter alternate up. Yeah. So that's the Dido and talk about your secret juju so nutrition programs. So well. The I I did the raise one bottle us generally use a the Mike mix and secret double secret pro tip here is you know, when it's below freezing. At the start. You have to start with the bottle in your jersey pocket not your bottle cage in because the top is gonna freeze. I thought you were going to about. I'm back. Yes, j Peter. Yeah. So see gotta stop you start with the the bottle and jersey pocket and then then once start drinking. He got polish it off before before freezes all the way. So. Yeah. Somewhere around halfway point. I think I down my bottle, and then you know, race times like an hour forty six. So you figure under two hours, you know, generally, get by with one bottle. Yeah. So you pull into the where you can hear the announcer, and it's you and how far back are they well, the finishing margin was eighteen seconds. So teen seconds. It goes either sixteen or eighteen something like that. So you didn't you didn't have time to, you know, sit up and zipper jersey, all the way up and. Actually, I was going to. But then I had to it was very it's kind of downhill coming in the finish as pretty pretty fast. And I had to go around a few lap writers right before the end. And then there was those little timing. That's right under the band as the trail so hard at noon, I hit those is gonna like gum will get a little air off. Oh, man. Oh, man. Well, blasting wanna do this? Well, wait till you get under the banner, you know. But him up so case. Yeah. You just don't wanna be that guys. Like makes it on like ESPN or something. It's like well. You don't celebrate. You know, induce them. So. The enemy of defeat guy the new agony. If it would it be the agony of winning. Yeah. So you cross the line. What do you think about? What's the first thing? You think about? It just it was just a big rush of emotion that I felt I couldn't believe it happened past man. I don't know how many times I've done this race, you know, five times now, maybe, and it's always been a pretty big point of emphasis for me for the winter training cycle, and it's never really worked out and this year. I you know, I had aspirations of of attacking it again and kinda suffered through some knee injury in January and kind of had thought maybe the goal was just a little louder each year in the week beforehand has even talking to myself thinking, you know, how I was going to come back in twenty twenty and, you know, do a better better job of preparing in really be ready to to win that next year in a kind of had to. Give myself low will pep talk and say, you know, next year is never ever guaranteed. I mean, you gotta you were thinking about skipping twenty nineteen. No, no. I just thought that maybe my goals winning where you know, maybe not as reasonable. But because we talked to you at sweaty the week before the race. And you had said, you know, I'm coming back. This is really my first effort might first full on race efforts since I've been nursing this knee injury. Yeah. And that was a tough day on the bike. It was. Yeah. So you know, I had just really gotten healthy probably beginning February and just buried myself took a few risks training wise, the month, February was pretty pretty deep in the fatigue whole two weeks before berkey, and it was a risk to see if the body could, you know, pull out in time kind of gain the the benefits of that that huge training black. I'd put in. And it was really my only shot and then to it. It was just it was a little unexpected. I guess at at the Burki, I knew it was a chance, and I decided, you know, no matter what no matter how bleak. I I thought it looked. I just you know, tried to talk myself out of the negative and ended the positive and just always believed that you have a shot, and then go out there and raise for the win and to have it come through like that in a year that I didn't necessarily expect it, and and just check off just a huge kind of life goal to to win that race was just, you know, as overwhelming right after line, and I just it was hard to even find any words or expression, just. It was just a kind of a surreal feeling, and I just had to pause for a second is kinda take it all in cool. Yeah. Yeah. That's you. But you worked your way. It's like you paid your dues to get to that point second place last year. Yeah. And now to are you planning on going back to defend absolutely? I think because I mean I read a few recaps of the race in. I mean, you've broken some guys are like perennial winners where they said, I don't think I can win there. Man. Yeah. It's I don't know. Yeah. It was definitely a very stacked field this year in isn't Tim dating. And I think that the only gonna get more and more. I think that. Higher level of writers are going to try and put that on their bucket list, and it's going to become harder and harder and harder. But you know, mother nature can really play a hand in that. You know, if somebody comes in that is of road racer or just a western mountain biker and tries to ride on those conditions without ever doing it before I think they have they'll be surprised at. Yeah. Yeah, potentially. It's you see in the death of the field. Go up every year along with the numbers. And I think this year was the first year that you saw some big time. You know, heavy hitters that are, you know, big names nationwide. Not just in Wisconsin show up. An absolutely I think it's going to still continue to trend that way. I think it's fast becoming a winter version of the schwa- Magan fetter oil forty and I think probably in in ten. Years you're going to be sitting here talking about those two events as just mid west monuments. If you will, that's the way, I view them. That's viewed them for the last handful of years, there's a handful events in in if you live in his part of the country, and you know, you fancy yourself a good bike racer. You wanna win those events or a combination of them. And that's one of my one of my goals of. For over over several years is I I wanted to be the first guy to win the swamp Swaminarayan forty in February 'cause they're really on the same trails. They have similar vibe now generation heart would be ladies champion that is done. Both multiple times is anybody back to back as anybody who defended their Burkey championship. Is that going to be your? I don't know. I don't know if it's been too. I don't think I don't think anybody owed Ned did. I think did he I know he won one. I think he wouldn't twice in a row, and he might have. Let's check that. Yeah. I know that I don't have a statistician. I'm. Oh, maybe we'll Ross. I I can't I can't remember if you go to or not. We'll Rosso one. He he was the first guy to beat Ned. Yep. I remember the year. He beat Ned. He was it somewhere in the in the teens where he finished maybe ten eleven somewhere around there. I think he was twelfth talked to him a little bit after as agent would get. Yeah. He didn't have his best day. But you know, he's a he's pro triathlete now. And he's he's doing pretty good things on on that side of sport. I don't know if you know he's riding that bike quite as much as he used to come interview. Yeah. We we have talked to him. And we for sure will you come out of a running background, right? Yeah. So ran a Platt Ville back in the day fifteen years ago now that was kind of my first, I endurance sports. So. Yeah. Through through high school ran on high school track and cross country team in Altoona, Wisconsin, which is right outside of oak Lehrer just about an hour and a half south of Burki LAN. So yeah, then ran it. You'll be Platt Ville there for five years on track and cross country program. And then came to Madison did the little post-collegiate running did a few marathons ended up a qualifying and running in the two thousand eight trials in the marathon in New York City in two thousand eight. Shortly after that two thousand nine was really the first first year. I started riding bikes can do to do to a running injury. Okay. Yeah. I think the Lonzo brothers to came through the writing. Absolutely. We this likely we are in the same sectional even in high school myself and Mark and Jesse so yeah, I've seen those names pop up through results now home since since the last millennia even right now. Yeah. Well, you know, when you have a series of brothers who are also talented that Alon name stays there longer. Right. Yeah. So let's talk a little bit about your bike in your acquit mentor. I'm semi obsessed with the new beef fat versus twenty-six fat where where the advantages are. Right. I think well the the results speak for themselves. At least two of the top three s Schwab Magan, those hard snow Crete conditions favor. The bigger wheel. I think what do you think? Oh, well, I guess probably. As it relates to most people. I I always say, it's it's ninety some percent, the Ryder. But yeah, I think that the wheel size probably isn't gonna make a huge difference for a lot of people. I think both sizes are really good and can be really effective in variety conditions. It's you know, I'm interested in that too. And I think every year we're seeing more and more tire rim choices come to market and the differences between. You know, just having availability of, you know, better better tires wheels can really change your perception, you know, maybe even more so than we'll size a no win the twenty seven five first came out. It was just a, you know, maybe two or three tires available in you know, as far as like, really deep soft snow and think that was a great option running now starting to see that change correct down those first tires that came out didn't have the. Sidewall height that the tire you ran that you were you were running vanilla goose Bernie Burkey, actually ran the Wallabies. Yeah. Yeah. So I had to go back to the twenty six inch wheels. Burkey, but that doesn't when you're just riding perfectly smooth groomed corduroy that you know, is is better than asphalt. I mean the wheel size. Just doesn't doesn't really make that big of a difference in the ability to run will goes by theory. Looking at it. Onto bike right now. No. So I was running the twenty seven five in Helga is for most the winter just kind of try them out and see all liked him and kind of the single track writing scenario, you know, with the with the deeper more loose snow, and they had they were very solid optioning. The van Helga tire is probably the best all-round fete bike tire out there. I mean, if you have to just choose one, right everything, and you don't need studs. But it seems like too much of a nabbed to be a great race tire. Oh, I don't know. I don't know about that. If it's more about the pressure. I think the knobs if you look at some of the rolling resistance studies people have done there's a clear pattern that rolling resistance is really more dependent on rubber compound than it is now height. So if you get if you get a good rubber compound in now. No had always affects the rolling reasons. But not to the degree that poor rubber compound. Would if you wanna good illustration of that as maths look at some of the rolling resistance numbers from the forty five northern Helga versus that the pri-. The light is fat bike tie ever made that Kenda juggernaut right now. See if the van Helga is still significantly faster. Yeah. The are these the roll down tests or the history sus tests? They are the drum rule that you go tolling on drums got Joe. Yeah. So, you know, it's gonna take it with a little grain of salt that it's not it's not uneven terrain, but there's probably still little lesson to be learned their true. So anyway, I really liked the van Hauge's. I think there's probably a lot of good options out there. But they're kind of the the choice that I've gravitated to last few years for for Rydin single track. And you know, last year even road I had a van HOGAN on the front for fat Burkey 'cause I. Was thinking coming back in that classic trails. Lot turns. And I felt like the van Helga was just a little bit more advantageous in those those high speed corners this year comeback down skate trail. I thought it'd go back to the the Wallabies front back. So it's boy, it's really a it's really a fine distinction. Do you know what your pressure was? So yeah, it was worrying about seven nine psi for Burkey. A lot of people that think started out way too solid than we do. Yeah. Yeah. And the other thing is, you know, I'm I'm cutting fresh quarter. I read the whole time, you know, maybe right in one or two people's tracks for most of the race. So my experience, you know, I wouldn't recommend that everybody. Do the same things that I do if I was right in five hundred place. I would I would have a different setup. I'd run less pressure. Knob your tire. That's what I did. That's a really interesting fact that you have a way different condition than everybody behind you. Right. It's really like just a dream riding up front. It's just I'd say it's just a magic carpet ride up there. Just you know, who who gets to cut fresh quarter. I for forty K is just drew come true, man. It's perfect riding you prefer that the quarter wave versus tire track. Well, I think the fastest scenario actually is like one or two people gone over just break the little ridges of the courtroom. Anyway, they're both really good. Yeah. It's yeah. It out all the time. I was off the front at Burki. It was kinda alternating, you know, in cutting. The the corduroy myself for trying to stay in one or two tracks. Maybe someone kind of written out on the on the pre ride to gain a little extra speed. But it's hard to keep it in that track the whole time. So you're lined up in gate one. Is there any gamesmanship or did anyone tell you that? You look really nice today. No, they did it. So. Not even known even today, you believe it. Oh my God. Nobody was talking smack or anything. Yeah. You know, she told me she was cold. Yeah. I think those that. To be called. Yeah. Wasn't that bad nineteen at the start? Yeah. And it starting thirties. It was in the thirties at the finish right in shorts. Yeah. Yeah. It was short shorts weather. Yeah. Wasn't for weather Gosden for me this year. But. So let's get to the most important part. The most important part of the Burki is the after party. And I wasn't there to see, you know, are two friends spinner and laya. I I wasn't there either. Oh, dude. Wyatt party. Yeah. That's probably why. Well, there was a blizzard coming in. Yeah. It's not my parents, actually, you know, they still have a place in in Oklahoma. And we were kind of in a hurry to wrap things up and make it home because we were up north for the the ski Burkey weekend will sweaty yeti while she would probably going on the tonight show 'cause you absolutely. Pregame on for that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But it was really hazardous driving editions coming back after skeet Burkey weekend or sweaty Eddie weekend and kind of thinking, well, I do not want to be in that situation. Again. So good sweaty this Sunday after. Yeah. I still hear stores for people who are stranded in the middle. Nowhere up after after the race trying to get back. And boy, we saw a number of slide. Awesome pileups on interstate. So I was a little scared about getting getting home the next day. So we decided to add back to oak Lehrer. And then the next next day. We're kind of helping clear they all snow removal duties at the farm. And then yeah, didn't didn't make it home 'til 'til Sunday night. But unfortunately, no, no Burkey after party. Not as wild that. It's as it's been in the past. Didn't you have some competition there last? Yes. I one hundred dollars. I thought it was maybe would be owing her beers instead of one hundred dollars. She she beat you barely. Only by like, thirty minutes. I think he's like twenty minute. I don't know. I haven't even seen somebody told me she one which I assume is true without even checking results which came in third in the ladies division. Yes. With two new names that. Yeah. Came out of nowhere to have them. Good. Yeah. Yeah. For sure. Yeah. My wife, she has another excellent ride killer four to three she's like really really closed in on lay was the rumor at the end. So yeah, you have to ask about that thinking scared better Breyer little bit. She had to kick it in the last last five cats by why she beat you know, that that this probably doesn't come as a surprise anyone. But spinner Neier both really afraid to her. So. Yeah, understandable. Yeah. It depends. Yeah. After by to talk tough. Not just through the crew and one hundred bucks. She didn't she didn't even talk to me after the racist, Texas, whereas hyundee. Sounds about right. She was an impressive performance, but still not bad. Oh, yeah. Super solid. Nothing to sneeze at. And there's a lot of talent up there. Every year latter years feel like, you know, talent on the women's side even deeper in the men's and she's more like a mountain bike single track type of racer in. This is like redocking road tactics. Are so much different in this racin? Yeah. So. And it's content. Confused, how much you can ride and train in the worst months of the year is like a who can who can take the most punishment the out there twenty below zero you know, dark at night in January. And so are you training a lot outside or you training on an indoor trainer. So I train primarily outside. I limit myself to one day a week on trainer. Yeah. Is all. But I really. Yeah. For for my training rise. I try to do one one day a week on the trainer to maybe get like a little intensity in and then the rest of the time. I ride outside if I can. And and when I look at the week, I'm kind of planning out my training week. I is look and see, you know, what look at the weather and see what day do I not want to be outside. And that's the day. I picked for for my trainer ride. And then the rest of the time. It's. But on the extra clothes and find the lights and have a go at it. Do you still run as part of your dream? I do a little bit of running. But this winter, I think over my new hours, I was able to get in, you know, maybe just ashore like twenty minute run at work. There's like a over at minoa terrorists. There's a a big kind of enor- outdoor staircase is gonna glass in case since perfect because it's you run up and down. Just run stairs at lunch, and I do. So my old running drills that are kind like these plant metric drills and the footings good, you know, because it's kind of indoors. But it's not hot. You know? It's still like thirty degrees may which is just perfect for for running in the winter in. It's it's a good workout. But yeah, ninety percent of the time is is cycling training. I just I can't really run consistently anymore. Just you know, too. Many nagging injuries old old. Varies from my college running days. You don't seem that old though, Corey I'm actually almost fifty years old. So I can't believe listeners. Got some news for you. I'll give you a list of things not to work with fifty. One of my coworkers. He, you know, he told me something one time. He said everybody lies me say oh, twenty nine or thirty nine or whatever you want to say. But you really gotta go the other way because if you're forty and you can tell people you're twenty nine if they and you look to. That's awful thing is though. I have always looked older that I am when I was sixteen. I looked like I was thirty beard. Thirty. Which is pretty bad. Growing this since had sixteen this is as big as it is now nice grounded in. But did you have any questions for Corey about his fabulous victory? What other races you do get into this? I mean, you didn't do polar role or anything like that. No. I didn't I kinda wanna do polar role. But I decided that I just needed the weekend to to train more fat berkey is I couldn't couldn't back off the training and make it up for for polar role. And I just didn't feel like I was fit enough to actually even have a go at it properly. And and I wasn't even confident that point that I could ride my bike for over three hours without stopping stretching out my knee. It was only like that week that I could ride can continuously for three hours without stopping and like doing some sort of like stretching or or PT. And and with the weather forecast way, it was I mean, I just thought going up there this could it could be five hour day on the bike and turned out to be six. Yeah. Right. Right. So who knows what would have happened, but I just wasn't healthy enough and confident fit enough to really go there and have a go at which I was really I was really bummed out as talking with other and his feeling really bad the that week. Let me after his thought I would just like to have a shot pool role in an epic year like that with the huge amount of snow. I just like to see that once and try to ride, and I don't know how successful I would have been, but it would have been good to go and try anyway. And but it just it just wasn't the smartest decision to make. And I'm glad in hindsight. Obviously that made the yeah. Yeah. But the next year fuller role is definitely on the schedule. I just realized kinda cool. We have the Burki champion living right here in Madison. So that's like that makes us cooler to yet. Does. Thank you. Thanks a lot. With your victory. You know, I'm gonna go home with my head held high tonight. Well, yeah, we don't always have the best no conditions the train here. It's definitely a little more moderate climate than than up north. But February we lucked out this year had some had some great snow got some good riding in and was able to be just good enough where do you train? I mean, there's the groom trails around here lack there is some some groom single track. But I can't say that it's groomed to the degree that like Marquette is. Yeah. It's a it's dependent on volunteers. And you know, there really hasn't been snow to groom the last few years. So I think that it's not on a lot of people's radar high-priority out there in groom the single track, but we did get a little grooming. This year was snowing so much Uni agreement in two days later, it'd be soft again. But so a lot of the training. I would generally do a large ride on the bike paths meal. We are fortunate enough years, especially in the winter in in when the ground is frozen to have a good amount of trail, both paved, and and snow to get pretty solid, you know, two three hour ride in and not be on the road at all. And then towards the end of that ride. I might end it at one of the mountain bike trail heads and depending on trail condition. You know, get another half hour to an hour of of single track riding in just kind of have to work with the weather for for. Awhile L December. There was no snow and was icy three a few weeks couldn't ride single track. And then we got a lot of snow, but it wasn't groom. So it was too deep. And then it was groomed. For awhile really good riding for while. And then we got the kind of a I don't know if it was an ice storm or Melton freeze. But the was just incredible amount of ice on all the bike paths and arraigned to anti that was. Yeah, it was just it was unbelievable. I could just road studs for about a month street. We get that every year, and we did have we did have winter this year. People were like, oh, no snow through Jan for through December. Really winner doesn't start until December. Twentieth. You know, we can get snow all the way into Halloween time button. If we're lucky, right? Yeah. Yep. Just the role of the dice. Yeah. Yeah. It's not it's not like the magical world of Campbell LAN or Marquette where it's winter wonderland for eight months year. I'm sure Marquette would share some with us this here. Oh, man. Yeah. Or grooming implant villes back. We can put a CFO put a statue. When I go back to all right tonight. We can put a statue. Somewhere course stitch you right there on the quad on the quad Yemen. The in the camp a hidden a hidden his skull hitting the dome with with frisbees. For decades. I did have my name on the imply village feel in the flat Ville Fieldhouse for. Well, actually. No, I is still up. I bet is still in there. Yeah. It is the they had it up on a long track. There. Who will now the ad that and you are on the danger zone podcasts goals. Like like, we do we do with any of our guests at the end. Here. We give you an opportunity to thank your sponsors. Yes. Well, first and foremost, I think that's like a service. We are here at Neff cycle service world headquarters just off of beautiful fish hatchery road in Addison across from super trouper Motors. Most notable landmark here that's on. Actually, I saw the police department press street about that to town in Madison police department, not long for this world town of Madison will dissolve shortly into the city of Madison. Okay. Anyway, if you haven't seen the new shop come by check it out there are. Yeah. We're what are we in the lounge? What did you call the little fits studio here? So Isaac has a a bike fitting studio set up with a trainer in a board that he can he can get your measurements styled in precisely when every every season I get any bike coming here. First thing we do is put on the trainer Isaac does a a dynamic fit. We kind of play around with my cleats, and saddle and bars get everything so the bodies work in correctly. But in the in the new shop here, it's even a better better location, easy, better to set better setup to take a look at people take video with your phone Senate home with you can document how the changes he made you can see it. Right right on your phone, how the changes are are benefiting your your mechanics on the bike. And then there's always just an incredible number of nice bikes here. There are some nice juicy over to championship bikes right in front of us. Yeah. That's a wards women's wars championship bike in the number bike. That's right. And there's a there's probably a few more floating around here. There's two national champion jerseys on the wall behind you enough. I can be in here. I'm not at this caliber. There's all kinds of good. There's PB iron pantry. Most importantly, there's a fridge here in it. Yeah. So I mean, I happen to know, you know, that another champion that we're all familiar with brings her bike here for work. And you know, she's on different team. Get this kind of kind of a high level. Listen to this. But. Oh, Manson anytime. Next time. Next time. She's around on the podcast. Don't worry your site. Your secret is safe with us. Nice. Right. You know cheese in Texas now. So she can't hurt us. Now. Comes back. So yeah. What other what other sponsors? Sorry. We digress to there for a sec. Thaw main other sponsors would be of course, Rocky Mountain bikes set me up with the sweet Suzie Q. I've been racing last three years now incredibly happy with that bike and Straem mountain bike opponents running the full x one eagle group with grip shift with grip shift at say iron grip shift all all year round. I like it some people I think like it especially for the winter because it has the advantage you can shift with mittens on work at triggers, and it's better than it's ever been. There was a period there where there was a lot of slop in that in that there is not anymore. It is an accurate, and you can shift that thing with two fingers. I mean, you can turn that click just as easy as pie. I love that thing. It's amazing. Yeah. And then head wheels. Of course, another one I have to thank for the fat bike season. Go we we love all the sponsors. Oh, yeah. They're all great. They everybody. There loves bikes. They love fat bikes and a new when you love when you love something you make great products. Yeah. You're Suzy cues, particularly gorgeous. I took a really great out of it at the sweaty Eddie race that dart British racing green with the blue. I really pops. That is a hot looking by kind the gold. The gold eagle the gold medals. Yeah. Yeah. I was really happy without turned out while next year. You'll get a new one. Yeah. We'll see what color that one is. Yeah. We'll see this one hardly has any miles on it. So it's I have to keep it around for another year. Really cool. Well, maybe maybe that'll be the back to back on. And then we'll have to dip it in gold and fats trophy of the forever. Bronze medallion. Melted. He can compress the carbon and make it a Diageo tattoo of that by. Full body to get the whole frame. Yeah. Yup. Local that was almost a whole hour delay cow. Yeah. Time flies. Mhm bullshit for another six minutes. Now, we're good. Thanks for listening to podcasts. There's going to be danger very degrees in the day. No broadcast. I might true. My nails later that could be pretty dangerous. And also, we might fight a tiger. Well, it's bitter might. Yeah. Maybe we'll see. All right. That's it for this show. Bye.

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20190810

Brethren of the Lord Jesus Christ

34:45 min | 1 year ago

20190810

"Hello hello hello some doing another recording now and might become problem because i got some low battery warning even though i don't have low battery really so this is another what about especially in this youtube in this audience that i'm testing a new microphone and this is a three-year-old microphone that i got from a large store which is not specializing in audio. It's a store that that way you can buy things like <hes> camping camping year and sorts of stuff but it also had these little micro this little microphone for three euros and the reason i'm i wanna do this. I wanna test to see if three price matters because i don't think it does yes. I think actually you get a very good song with the sheep stuff what i noticed that actually you can get a better sound with the sheep. Stop up though with the expensive so there's no proof that you get a better microphone or in fact like you might get a better microphone when you when you buy three euro microphone and the this <hes> amazing to me so i decided to buy another three your microphone and that's let's say this this one to know and i'm testing it out now. On the soom h one n diarrhea connected to it just like directly connected the guide squid to to the soom h. one in my generally my which is my general poor cost setup. What's up so i wanna pray lord jesus christ lord and savior i want to praise god the father in heaven the only living god for sending his son to die for our sins and be resurrected on the third day and gave us the free gift of eternal on a life okay so <hes>. It seems to be working the audio. I don't know when it's going to cause. I said it just closed down instead of low battery battery and i didn't know why so i see the red light blinking here now when i'm walking and that's that's an indication that the this microphone is <hes> <hes> it's <hes> the gain is it goes too high so it goes to maximum. That's one anyway so when i want to talk about today. I think i'm going to lower the game a bit to see here. So what i want to talk about. Yeah that's better. They shouldn't be much of a blinking now. I think so wanna talk about today is go denison and i think gotovina's and what it means to be a christian and i'm starting to think like this because i can't get things to work out any other way so broad roeder he would choose the world and and this is the difficult part i i was in <hes> fellowship this fellowship this fellowship that was a woman in there who i believe in order to be she was very serious about faith but <hes> and i thought she couldn't be abroad because she was so serious about faith you know so i looked on her truly believe in christ and she looked upon herself as a holy spirit. She wanted to be the holy spirit in the fellowship and one saturday. She said that even the on saved can tell you stuff. God can tell you stuff through the onsite and <hes> <hes> feeling someone when she talked to when you talk to her that she killed herself saved but she did not consider the people saved me. Oh you know she talked about that. She could wake up the speech compete in people you know if i didn't have the spirit so it was kind of implied arrogance kind of but it wasn't really said ed <hes> but anyway this woman she also thought that <hes> you know she had been baptized in the holy spirit it because she was speaking in tongues and those who weren't speaking tongues. They have not been baptized in the holy spirit which is a lot of crap. You know pop this baptism in the holy spirit. It is on speaking terms but she was a. I think you know pentecostal or whatever the case might take woman <hes> yeah so price. Matic is probably better but what i wanna come to his this that she said this. You know god can speak to you you through unsaved people and this is the argument that they have this is not about the person you know it's not about this woman is about i i wanna come to the principal here that that when you go to these fellowship you will learn a lot of things that are partly right and they use it to to propagate their understanding scripture which will lead you further into kind of a state where you're dependent on on the pastor and the church and their opinion and so on and you become more and more indoctrinated into and you can't see it off awadh so this argument that she had that god can talks through unsafe. People god talks to to throw a donkey to <hes> this <hes> billion billion. I think is called bala bala god talks through donkey to him so god can even talk to donkey so god can talk to whatever sushi what he wants you know so that would be the argument then that you have to be with people cool. You know even if you charge even if they're on some people there near god can talk to you through them so your take should take it seriously. You know that kind of argument argument is is a very dangerous all given because you start to listen to what people tell you to do and <hes> you know. I'm not you know the other side of this argument. That can be dangerous. If you don't have a connection with god's law diseases christ you know and you don't listen to other people you know and you can be totally. No you have no guidance whatsoever but what i'm saying and this thing i think is true on say people cannot give you any counseling selena guidance really in the lord you know they can give you bison basic counseling or that. You shouldn't commit crimes and so on but you're often. They don't don't even do that. You know on say people are just caring about themselves and nothing else and but my point here is that this kind of saying that god could speak through on people <hes> was used to promote the idea that that'd be have to listen to attleboro and follow the idea so everyone so and it's very a dangerous doctrine. It's a doctor. All of those wanna promote satan. Basically they can say things like this so <hes> so this audio. I'm not going. I'm up. I'll probably won't i won't <hes> <hes> i'm going to write this down. I think they saw i'm not going to <hes> <hes> i'm not going to <hes> while maybe i am going to actually what i was thinking always if i'm gonna post processes so what you but i could do <hes> fix the the the what you hear yeah so what do is a three year microphone. I could tell them they seem to sixty loaves while because i'm gonna use that i think on my ordeal so wrote that up so basically that's what <unk> voted goten if you turn to go tennis and when i say taranto goten you'll allow yourself to be to be leading controlled by goats and their opinions on what they think in their value value judgment you actually been goaded and goto is something that christ will not like and go to something basically when you start to prioritize the things of this world above low jesus christ you know if you're just fully satisfied with low jesus christ lord jesus christ is going to give you everything but if you are turning if all these guys are shown himself to you and and you still turn to <hes> the goats the value of the goats and go-to nece then you're not gonna you're gonna lose this or low jesus christ. He's not going to be good for for you so there is this is what i think that this doesn't mean that you have to restrain and strain yourself and try to become a better crystal a lot of people. We'll do this by by the way that they were. The spirit of the lord is there is liberty so you know you don't have to do all sorts of things and and sorts of rules and and and that kind of stuff and you need to have to <hes> cold cohen you need there have to kind of you know. Just i'm in churches. You will actually be told to go at any funeral goto in the church. I think they actually gonna throw you out eventually because or tony allen or whatever because the church actually <hes> when you think about it the short survives thanks thanks to goats you know and why is that there are a lot of expenses savall in tears while this kind of stuff and generally you know. The chart is just not set up for the sheep. It's it's actually a goat institutional. Go chip because <hes> it's just the way it is if you think about it <hes> it just that way and i haven't been able to find a chart that <hes> you set up for sheep that cares about sheep so in that sense the goal the shorts will actually try to destroy you. I believe if your sheep now the short can also try to destroy brought people for other night. I don't think so. I think zona sheep tried to destroy actually. I don't think they tried to spoil the people of course there are extreme cases but then generally you know the secular authority will come and do stuff <hes> it's just i i mean there are people who commit serious crimes but i don't think the show is gonna know. It didn't really something that than its the authority that comes to deal with it so no one churches throughout people or no. It's it's or do things. I think it's because sheep you know they take a word of god seriously and that's not cain church. You know if you think about it so that was something. I was thinking about this. This is a three-year-old microphone compared to earlier. I have the guidance coit fifty year microphone. Both eleven year microphone connected to zoom h one n handy recorder so <hes> that i go to battery problem on now. I don't know why but actually it will. It closed itself. Dahlan said battery low goodbye when i was starting to recording here but now he works so i don't know idea what it's doing here put in new batteries rechargeable okay so i mean thinking about this that there's nobody contacting me for. This pork been doing pulled costs the very the communication. There's nobody contacting me that. I have email address and it's on the podcast page but i don't get emails and that's one thing you know and <hes> so but but that's okay okay really so <hes> i mean if you have something to say to me you can <hes> you can contact me and that's okay that you do that. Can you know if you're listening to this podcast. I'm here. It doesn't have to be something positive you know really so. You're welcome to send me a message view. You know whatever so yeah so so then i i want to <hes> to <hes> <hes> to say i want to praise lord jesus christ and god the father. I wanted to say that. I think it's clear you know here in the bible that there's only one gardens god the father other <hes> if you go to church people say that they will not agree. I mean globe is this crisis. He's gotten manifested in the flesh and it says in john one the word was god so you know so. It's it's a bit of mixture of godliness but as there is but one god the father of whom are all things and we him and one lord jesus describe things and we buy one koreans and eight six so my explanation for this mystery of godliness. How can there be one god. God the father but still it says <unk> christ who is the word that the word was scott because is is there like are they. The same he's law describes the same mascot the father or are there multiple gods that are all one and it says in the old testament we they refer to themselves as we indicating that there is one god but it's referred to as three persons in one something like that. Why would you say we plural when they talk about the one where they talk about god in the old testament so this indicates that there is one in god manifested in three persons an god the father christ the holy ghost and this is the trinity doctrine and i've tried to avoid the strings doctrine because it sounds strange that there will be three gods that are one god so my but same time you have something called <hes> <hes> modell ism. It's called modal missy idea that they're all the same. There will want god. It's just different expression of the same god what caused mold that listen and they're very you know. There's an harris c. n. They go very crazy about this the motorists and <hes> i've been trying to explain all this to myself and some people are there days submersion on the internet where they say that you know that just as we are three in one we have sold about the spirit so so god awed has sold body in the spirit and jesus is the body. The spirit is <hes> they actually dispute is the holy ghost and the soleus got the father hold that there are some i think swedenborg was the initiator think but there are many people rickman stoked about this hard it in the independent fundamental baptist also brian deadening her is e has made this doctrine kinda i personally <unk> senior. No proof that godfather the soul of the god head i don't see stated anywhere in scripture but i see it stated that god is a spirit so we must worship him in spirit and in truth will if god is a spirit you know some people will explain this and this is about the charismatics semantics. Is this church fellowship they would they basically are all about the holy ghost jesus. There's nothing about god. The father is it's about the holy ghost than jesus saying everything is about jesus they say and then he talked a lot about the holy ghost <hes> you you know so that that would mean that god is spirit would be the holy ghost and when the holy ghost is a spirit that's true but <hes> god the father can also be a spirit wearing the bible does he. Have you know a physical baldy really in that sense. I don't know i have personally seen it as <hes> that <hes>. This is my personal interpretation. It's a modern statement of faith in <unk>. I have this invitation that when they say god is spirit the father of spirits i see us. Uh got the father you know father talking about spirit. He's got what about lord jesus christ them because of the war discard and i explained that with that you know jesus christ is the he was there the word it's by it's by the power of the word that god created everything he said and there was light and it was like there was spoken word you know so spirit speaking the word. You know so it's lord jesus. Christ is the word and what i see the discusses god manifested within the flat show. I have seen it as god. The father manifested in the flesh so what what i mean by that is that everything in nature the the primary in nature spiritual and the secondary is physical and that means that that aw god would obviously spirit because spiritual things are more real than the physical things in this world and <hes> <hes> that's how i see it and i therefore see it does that when it says god manifested in the flesh i mean you know got the father manifesting christie and flesh because fleshy has weaknesses you can hit the flash you can't hit a spirit and so jesus is hundred percent man dan but also he's hundred percent god because he's god manifested in the flesh got. The father is a spirit. I see he does so <hes>. This is how i see i know and also would say you know this world was created for the spiritual realm is primary the physical ram secondary so it was created. I six is you know existed the word and god the father and the holy ghost. I think the existed in the beginning though i don't know if it says that the holy ghost anywhere i i'm not sure about this but it does say that the word godfather existed in the beginning so i see that the day seats in the beginning and i see the in the sense then that godfather's a spirit and the word is his manifestation in the flesh and if the flesh didn't exist then this world could not be made and we're everything were made. It was says it says here things but the to us there is but one god the father author of whom are all things you know so there is only one got to us and that's the father success. Oh here so you should pray to the father of whom more things over whom are all six the all things are are of the father other you know and we in him so we living in the father now says that the father the footstool today orth you know so you know he's very big in that sense or you know i see spirit spiritual being being so he's he's everywhere so and one lord jesus christ by whom are all things by whom are all things notice the wording here that's different it says of whom are all things the father by whom are things christ so i see then i see this saying this the godfather spirit lord jesus christ. It's the father manifested in the flesh so by so that that that's what's that you notice that and it's done by the word he spoke it into existence spoke the physical world into existence the spirit god the father spoke the physical world into existence by the word and the word was made flesh which is low jesus christ so so i see it as that loud you know lord jesus christ is a missing link that that the pollution is looking for because he's the first creation yeah no not the first creation he's existed. He existed from the beginning with other but he's basically but it's by whom are all things so. He's the missing link into all of creation. He's not created. The world is not created notices christ. It's not create a created being he existed already with the a father in the beginning as it says before the sea and the mountains were made he existed with the father father but he is you know the the manifestation of physical thing because i see it as that l. but even though the word i guess in a sense <hes> you know the d._d. Exists as a physical thing in the old testament or more asked ask the word in the old testament. That's debatable but my point is that without the physical co thing existing in the beginning. How can you make physical things so it says baishi morrow things and he's he is physical manifestation nation and he is the word and the word that makes god speaks a word and it creates reality so the word of god is spoken by god but it's also jesus christ. He is the word of god it says so in revelation he has a name written on his <hes> hip or something or go i don't know and it says the word of god so he's the word of god and he's god manifested in the flesh and the word was god but i see it. Does this this stuff about you know the spirit care how spiritus spiritus spirit but we're living in a physical wall there are loads of things created in this world insects and <hes> you know call aw three and and lakes and and all these kind of things are created and lord jesus christ is it's by him. It is created but but god it's all done by god but it's done by god's speaking the word you know so it's don on wall things are oh god the father but it's it's created by christ by the word spoken so by god the father you know so in the big so because got the law discussed is described as a word in the beginning and <hes> this is <unk> our seats but he but he says also in proverbs that he was with god the father so it seems he was actually if you look at the proverbs louise craftsperson physical being signed the standard already at the moment of creation and he was there. We've got the father. He's also said he will. As you know with the sounds of man in the habitable part of the earth i was with with the god you know so he was there he was there. I thought i understand it as a physical being at from the very beginning lord jesus christ the word you know and he existed eternally so he's not a creation but i see it as we we created as copies of him in a sense you know we will christ and why is that because you know godfather existed but there also existed this physical equal possibility physical existence the possibility of physical exist on tangible mattress and stuff and that was manifested order eternity in the form of oh blow jesus christ because he existed also with god the father in the beginning so so <hes> this is how i hi hi hi have seen it. I explain it so are they. You know different things or whatever will i would say that god for the spirit and the i think godfather's beyond space and time that's why he could <hes> no so these kind of things that's why it can know who's gonna income to fate because who whom he did for no he did predestine romans eight twenty eight so so. How can you even know that that's become you know calumnies stuff about all predestined some and so no. I don't think he predestined some. I think there's beyond time and space so he can know who will come to faith in their lifetime. He can know their free will what they will do that for you will because he's beyond time and space if you time and space as you can know the future you see. I think god is great. He can no everything and therefore for every. There's nothing that that doesn't you know cannot foresee and <hes> yeah so that my is then. We have destroyed. Distort catalysts wants full counties. Don't seem to understand the greatness of god great. God is that is beyond time space so calvin is thank god. He's just a man you know. Maybe you know it's like mormonism. Komo something there's also man there you know and so they they don't know god they haven't contacted the knowledge of god. God as god is god is beyond our understanding greatest mysterio godliness okay so this was a little title discussion about godliness. You know there are words in the bible for this like something that they use the word god head d- <unk> trinity but i i don't like to use extra biblical words. I would say that there are three that bear witness in heaven the father the warden the holy ghost and these three are one. I agree on that because it's in the king james bible agree on everything that's in the bible but i don't wanna use extended. It's the biblical terminology. I don't wanna go into philosophy with spoils people but you know you could say that. What i've talked about here is philosophy but it's just what has been come to me regarding what i've tried to understand all of this because there there is <hes> you know we try to you know we tried to understand it. Says how can this be. You know the mistrial garden and this is how i have personally. That's why my statement of faith is the way it is so so i see it. There are some stuff about diseases christ in proverbs. I think it's in psalms also but improves. Its enter today to hear what you know so those are going to look at something. Actually i might look at it now. See what it says okay so it's basically a bomb nation mentioned improve verbs is about something about. I'm going to go to nancy here. The sacrifice of the week it is i bohm nation to the lord so if <hes> if unsafe person make sacrifice that's an abomination but the prayer of the upright is a delight. Everyone that is is proud of in heart is an abomination to the lord. Everyone that is proud in hot is an abomination to the lord. It's amazing to kings to meet the wickedness. Let's see they both are motion to the lord <hes> here. It is proverbs twenty nine. He that turned away. He's he has from hearing the lou even as prayer shabby abomination. That's quite interesting. That's quite interesting. Actually he turns away. He is from hearing the lula now. The proverbs of solomon so this is this. Was you know i heard someone said jack. Smack said that probes is for safe. Christians pros were written by solomon during the moses. Oh slower period so when it says lawyer i think he's referring to most floor but <hes> you know louis fulfilled fielding christ now so so.

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A New Kind Of Airplane

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A New Kind Of Airplane

"You probably remember that heavier than air flight was first cheap by the Wright brothers in nineteen zero three after more than a century airplane technology is mature, and we shouldn't expect major breakthroughs. You're wrong. Don in twenty eight teen a team of researchers at the Massachusetts Institute of technology developed an entirely new form of airplane. Propulsion that doesn't have any moving parts. No all airplane proposal involves moving services like propellers were jet Roeder's to push the air. How could you possibly make an airplane engine without moving parts and statin leading parts? The researchers used electrical charges the engine used fine wires with forty thousand volt charges to cause some air molecules to become electrically charged. Or I and is d- then they used these electric charges to accelerate the mass of air moving through the engine creating an Ionic wind that flows out the back, the wind powers the airplane. Just like the wind generated by moving propeller. That's right. Pretty impressive. No moving parts or burning fossil fuels are needed. When can I fly on one? It'll be a while the test flight used a model airplane that weighs just five and a half pounds with a wingspan of sixteen feet, they fluid indoors at an MIT. Jim the longest flight. Was one hundred ninety six feet which was just a bit longer than the Wright brothers. I flight the efficiency of the engine depends on the arrangement of its electrodes and the search for the best arrangement is just getting started. There's still lots of research ahead. There's moment of science comes from Indiana University. There are thousands more moments of science on our website at a moment of science dot org. I'm ya'll Cassandra dog glass.

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1cor6 brother

Jesus is the Christ

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1cor6 brother

"Hello. So! I'm. Live now. Okay. So, the idea was to do relate the. Bible, study or just Tom. Preaching and the idea is that this video should end up. On Youtube. or And maybe own my my soundcloud. Account which is says Dash. MAC, Derek and A thinking of doing. Videos here because. Of, that it's free for me. So it works with my. A mobile subscription. In the name of Jesus Christ. is I also Jesus Christ. Say I pray that Little Jesus Christ. Make me say what are what he wants me to say. Okay! So. I want to bring off one Corinthians six brothers. Now. What is the one Corinthians six brother? You know we have. Five brothers. which are brothers that are into the since he not beat. You'll nature. That talked about before and the sixteens are are Fornication. railing. Covetousness adultery, drunkenness and extortion. These. Six are mentioning in one five as a brother that we should not. Associated with now so and they make a difference here between if you're, it's a brother or an atheist, wicked man. So if it's an atheist. Then, we can be with him. Because any says because otherwise you would have to go out to the world. And I think. Pointing out here that. that. Back I want to know. Make people notice this here that actually. The the. It seems like in the churches. Generally you will hear that we accept everyone as long as you believe in the Lord Jesus Christ. But pool here in this one in five. It's actually teaching the opposite. To in a sense. Don't you think? Because, he gives people a harder. Judgment you could say if they are brothers. And then if they known brothers, if they wicked, you know. And also noticed that they never mentioned women here sisters and I think that is because the head of the man should be Christ Jesus Christ where the head of the woman is the map. So they a harder. Judgment on the man than the woman. As you can see? Here. They should be more an OSCE have this. In I, Think Bravo the wokers disorderly. Thoroughbred and and was more they should have work with our own hands and eat their own bread. You? Know and I think that that's a good work ethics and. A lot of people are disorderly and work can be their solution to sort things out you know. I I see that to myself. I I I use work as a solution to stop disorderly nature in myself. And A. So. Yeah, works good. Now we might not have everyone does not have became ever seen something and down something that makes us less able to work. You know God created us with different capacities, and so, but you ought to be. Came to started to breathe. A lot of people have done since then. And have caused their body dysfunction in some way. So people might say. I can't work. While I'm sure there's something you can do and that's the way I think about myself. Even though I have actually sick pension I can steal. Work of course everyone can work. And that's how we do. We work anyway because. You know there's always something you can do. All in all worth is profit. You know it says. In the Bible in or work, that's prophet, so you can do work at home as well you can do all kinds of Idaho cards work. Because it's worth good to work for for cash. And Work in the open market you know. With the real employment. That's good, but. People don't have that. Have can't steal work and you don't have to work. Necessarily four thirty or something you can just work. There's work to do everywhere. You know generally you know, and you can yeah. This is what I want to say. So work is good. There's profit in all work, not just in or paid work, and not just in all work in the open market in all work dies Prophet. So. That's I. Want to say, and then say one quincy seeks talk a bit about one point six, because something come up with lately we have one currency and seeks brothers as well. you know we are one of five brothers, and now we have one Corinthians six brothers I've never really thought about that so much before. So we're GONNA. Read I hear. It says here. But brother go with to leur with brother and that before the unbelievers. Now therefore, there is not late fooled among you because you go to war with another. Why do you draw the take wrong? Why do you not rather suffer yourself to be defrauded? Night you do wrong and defraud and that your brethren. No. You're not that the unrighteous should not inherit. The Kingdom of God. Be knocked to see neither foreign this nor dodgers, dodgers nor effeminate. Nor abusers of themselves with mankind, nor thieves nor covetous. Nor drunkards nor revise, nor extortion shall inherit. The Kingdom God And such were some of you, but you are wash your sanctified, but you are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ. The name of Jesus and by the spirit of our God. Or things lawful onto me. Okay. So that's what I want to say. Now they mentioned lauded afterwards, but when I said what grades six brothers I was talking about. Could people go to law? With a brother, you know secular court, go thing not to the. To, an elder or to a congregation or whatever? Or praying to God, the father, regarding a brother, doing wrong or something, not that I was talking about. Calling the cops on people you know. And Suing people in courts. The courts to sue them, you know. And I don't think this is. I. Don't think this is Godly behavior and the Holy Ghost in scripted. We can trust the scripture. We can prostate than and some people out. People say that you know who who the major on the Bible are broad Roeder's or whatever? Or do you made your own? And if you don't make your on, the Bible would do major. But there is a statement in the Bible, which is quite interesting where it says like this. And they it's in Hebrews and they shall not because to check all be taught by God the father you know. In Hebrews. They need know that any man teach them. because. They should all be taught by by God. And That's obviously true. So why am I here teaching you? You know I'm not teaching, you hear. It sounds like how. You know. Why am I here teaching you? Might be good question. Art should also that now. And basically. I have a mother and a father in the flesh, and my mother in the flesh course of teacher. And I just have it in my nature, and I also say that teachers do exist as a gift a spiritual gift. Teachers do exist. So there's nothing wrong with teaching people. But. The problem with teaching people. Is that. You should really do it. I think in A. In A. Issued teacher believers you know. Or. Maybe yeah, the problem is if you teach unbelievers. They haven't come to Christ you see my point. You can get it very messy in there. As a teacher and I think that. But maybe we should teach them that the oil things will be revealed to to them through, and you should pray, and Hov revealed in. You should read your Kings Bible, and it should be revealed to you and. That, that's how we should teach. Not just go into doctrines teaching doctor. because. And that's the fundamentals. There are fundamentals and. These are not fundamentals. I WanNa talk about that in he. He proceeds a very good a book by the way very good book. And it's It's It in the in the Hebrew. Was I gonNA. Say now forgot. Now I forgot of course. But, but we should be, we should. The basics is that we believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and that the Lord Jesus Christ has died for your sin some across being buried their resurrected on the third day. And this is the Gospel that you stand, and you should have your heart established in grace, and not in high doctors, which has not benefited those who went before. So, have your heart established in grace? You know. And that's think I that that that's a verse that was looking for in Hebrews. And it's also in Hebrew, said, and and have you heard establish an ingrained and not in. Divers doctrines or a meat as they call meters called. That I think because it's not benefitted them. That went before. You know. Look! What happens with would staffan when he stood up at talk. Look what happens to pool. When he rebuked. The Pharisees send side now. I wasn't then. While he was teaching them. He was. that. They looked I. Think Apartments very dangerous because? Of that? They looked upon most of these people who preached the Gospel. The Gospel. Is worth repeating. The Gospels the. Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ he is. Though if you believe on Law de-subscribe, turn life as a free gift. And a? That's why it's good to believe in Jesus Christ. Now. And the Gospels that Jesus Christ has has died for your Seton. Being buried and resurrected on the day. And if you believe on him, you see the free gift of Eternal Life in heaven. That's a gospel. It's worth repeating. Gospel of peace, you know. And we shouldn't be judging people. We should be watching people. We shouldn't take people to court also, and this was what I was thinking about talking to in this. Video. There are people who take other people to court and I've at a recent case I listen to. A man who I understand now, he didn't say this to. Say this publicly, but as I understand, he took a woman to court. As she, there were supposedly married for year living together for year. And I understand he just left and she knows she didn't know where he went. And three days later, the cops can buy in the in the night and drove her away from there. And lately you find out. There was a restraining order on her. And she. told her this. And So as I sounded stabbed the man. took the car went to town went to. The cops told the COPS about tour. And And they find something on her. And that was enough to give him a restraining order. Now that I think we also filed divorce papers with the court or something. But. That sounds weird because I he according to what she said he will, he was already married. So can you really married divorced and so? I mean. Can you really marry if you're not divorced? If you're married, you know I. Don't know about this situation, but there was a court and she didn't find out about this until she went to the court. Then she found out. There was a restraining order on her. and. Then he contacted her and told her to come and pick upper things. Now if there's a restraining order on her. It's not a wise thing to do so. He was deceiving her to get her locked up I think. Either way. Yeah, that could be something so this occurs with people taking things to to low. And you know there are a lot of conflicts between people taking place. and. You know. Of found people. I think both of these I. Think none of these people you to unemployment. Thing was some kind of six pension. Or whatever. People on a sake pension. If they get in trouble with the law. You know goes all all down for them, I, think because. They have no mercy on. If you're working. you know you can say I'm doing good for society. Please let let me go on just good for society and the cops. Might you know like to just? Get an easy ride because you're working. But if you're not working. It's a they tried to your. It's mentioning the Bible. Pulled talks about this it talks about. We never. We never eat anyone's bread for note. And in a sense, people want to seek fresh eating. How the People's bread for naught because living on taxpayers money? and. which can be which is not good if you're if you're get in trouble, you know. Very trouble can cause a lot of trouble and so on, so we should. Ask Dr Lawfully and it's especially important for people. Who are on a SEC pension I think, but that was that was digressing. The point is that. Some people take people to court when they have something on them. Or when they think they have something on. So some people are like this as soon as you've done something wrong. They. They will find something with the cops with you now I think. You know I think that might have been drunk, driving or something. So if he told the crops about that. You know he didn't know the cops. Will you know they want to catch the person? But they call because you know it's not. There's no not don't have enough evidence so. So they basically work with the other guy against its person trying to get you know. Get them caught in some way. So even though the cops don't really. Really. Find something you know. With the the court. And get people in prison or a fine or whatever? They will try to work in that direction towards that person, and this is how they do. And so. I've there are been. Are Come in contact with brothers. who have done is things are legal. And I don't turn them over to the cops because. Of that the Bible town has not you know. That's one cream six. You know the the Bible we should not inherit the Kingdom of God when we do that. Now I think this man is hospital. He did that. He turned over to the COPS, but I don't think the COPS had enough evidence. To file something with a court against her, so they worked with the man. Put a restraining order on her picked her up and dropped her off in the middle of nowhere kind of. So Etendard. Kilometers from her home or something like that so. Because you know they don't drive people all the way. So my point is here that. We have this brothers and when you are believing Lord. Jesus Christ some people will expect. I often expect that people will be one Corinthians six brothers, because the holy ghost advises against it, but what I found this, there are a lot of brothers who take people try to take people to court, and you can fellowship with someone. For a long time, and then suddenly finds out. You've done something wrong, and he would try to destroy you, you know. Tried to tell the cops and tried to destroy you, you know. and. He might do the opposite to another guy who has done something wrong. because. He's his friend or something. You know he considered. He likes the guy whatever. I don't know really. I don't know really don't know maybe a, but my point is that. Yeah it could be. It can be because you should have your heart established with grace, you know. But what I'm saying is infallible ships. When. You Fellowship with someone Lord. Jesus Christ you. Know forgives your sins. And then May. They start talking about through your notice a day. Do wrong or something they do something wrong. You notice that and then you start talking about that. You know you've done that. And then he found out eventually they tried to destroy you. You know they tried to to find thousand with the COPS and. Of many people do this without telling the person like this. Guy Who was a hospital. He never told the woman as I understand what he had said. To the call to the crops, or whatever to the court whatever? So he tried to destroy. Its own wife, you know. So this is and they flip. They flip like they. They can flip. So they can be all nice and it's is trying to help, and then when they. Decide to to to leave the person or the person should leave them. Instead of just letting them go, but just the proper way as as a believe in the Lord. Jesus Christ the proper way. Is So you separate? If you can't if something has done something wrong if you look on the new, testament, what is advised? It's always from such deport. From such a put in prison or from such. Turnover to the cops and and destroy them in court is it doesn't say that it saved from such. Walk away or turn away or depart. So. The New Testament is very clear. We don't. We don't stop people either like in the Old Testament. Walk away from these people. But instead of doing that they have Some of them just want people to get S- punished for for whatever you know. Because they've noticed he did that. Person did something wrong. Shouldn't that be punished them? You know, and then they take them to court you know or take them to. So they've done something to you, so they take them. Yeah, they taxes. They call the cops on them. That's no. And the you know the Holy Ghost advises against. It does not only that will not inherit the Kingdom of God. You know so. It's a serious thing if you really are believer, but a lot of people are. They're believers. Stuff is secondary and. I. Don't know I don't think they're really come to faith. I don't think this man has been. To did this to this? Wife of his has really come to faith I. Don't think really believable. But he claims to be a believer You know so. He claims to be more kinda wobbly. An anti key claims that she is lost. So. So. This is how it can be you know she. He claims that she is lost and You know and may be forced I. Don't know really you know if what was the truth about this. I wasn't there, so I can't claim that I really know what was there. What what was the truth about all of this, but my point here is that you might find someone who claims that he is very saved, and that the person who is saved this lost. And they might. Seem to be more into righteousness while the other person's seemed to be more integrase. You know but. He seemed to be more into repentance from sin. As daily of items lost, you know. So this is what I found. You know that that. I think it. It is very important that we realize that it's all by the grace of God that we saved the therefore when we leave this grace, we. We're going back to the lower and. We shouldn't do that. And you have people preaching this and I think it's important to realize that it is the truth that is sold by the grace of God. We're saved so so where we depart from this grace. As you see here, does advise you. To not. Take people to secular courts. You know you can tell them. You're not welcome here anymore, you know. Go out or something and don't come back or drive you off to to. To the tile or something, and I won't Pay Your hotel or anything you could do that. But calling the cops on on is not what the what the advising, so basically what this mandate is! He put her away. Like you, say the wife away or something like that, but which is not appropriate either you know. So the appropriate thing he would have done if I'm going to say what I think, he would have done if she was even. Let's say she was. Misusing the car in an illegal way, such as drunk driving. Let's say it was the thing. Then he would uptake in the keys and lock them up. And she would not have access to keys. And you take whale all if if there's an alcohol problem. You can just removed the alcohol. And if he doesn't like living like that with him. You can just say to her well. You're free to go. It's not like you're forced. That's that's okay. That would be biblical treatment of her, but but to so so basically because we are not put away a wife, but we can be against alcohol, and we can be against woman taking out card if she's. You know have a history of of drinking whatever? We can be against these kind of things you know at at and. You know you can also just. Take away her freedom from you know from using the car and that means unit. You're stuck in the middle of nowhere, and and with the man, and that's okay. You don't have to give the woman that the wife the right to drive your car if you don't want. Is Not in the Bible that you should do that that you have to do that. You sorted out that way. Maybe they would still be together if that was the case because. You see when you do not inherit the Kingdom of God. You know if you truly a believer. There's no reason to call the cops you know, and once you call the cops. You can never sort it out again. You know because you've decided. To contact secular court, you know. And this is what these be put some of these people do you know and? Basically I think they think the person's lost to contact secular court. But if you look carefully in the Bible where does it say to quote a secular court regarding lost people? Says a brother takes his own brother to court. And that before the believers, okay, that's wrong, but doesn't say brother. Take the lost to court. But wearing the Bible, does it say the broader should take those court? It does say at one place proverbs. It says like this. The wicked our raw because they refused to do judgment. So and that's a story that. Crooks seldom contact cops when they are in trouble because they have like the cops. So. There is a a a case with that the weekend are are wrong because they refused to do judgment now judgment doesn't have to be. To to. You know. To Jackman doesn't have to be to call the cops on someone. So. Is But they some people I've found this Christians, and they have this attitude. They find out something about someone else. He's done something wrong here. I know about this, and then they stri- to get these people punished, you know. They, strive for it this. Is Not like they just tell them. We don't like you here because. We. We think you're a crook or something. We don't like crooks here or something. or Whatever you know I don't like you. Go somewhere else or whatever or just. So there are you with a measure you meek shall be measured up to you, you know. According to your faith, Don onto you and I think a lot of people do wrong. In this sense and think that. They think like this. That person was lost so I take him to a secular court. That's where it belongs. You know because lost people should be dealt with in secular quarters. But. It doesn't say so in the Bible. Nowhere in the Bible, talent brother to take a wicked man to secular court nowhere. Though the best thing to do is just to sound. You're not welcome here in. Order, to drive the person to Thomas Lear. Whatever that would be better than to take them to court you know. To Secular Court you know I in my opinion because. Courts. Cops never denies is never helps a person you know. Never does too so contacting never helps. so you see. that. You see here that that they're always one good thing is ause questions to the person to find out what's really going on. You know. Like Jesus did they all seem to do this stuff? When he answered wife, you don't also my question I. Also Yours so better owns all question then to answer questions sometimes. With people you know. So, but I think this is important. You have this one Corinthians. Six brothers. Who when they decide, they don't WanNA cooperate than longer with you. They tried to get you imprisoned. Because something you've told them about. You know instead of saying. Don't cut. I don't like you come. Don't come here anymore. We prefer I would prefer eating coming here. I was in Vietnam once and I was to a pop, which I really liked. I was sitting there long time. Using their WIFI Loft and I don't know. I. Don't know exactly why they didn't like me or what I very long hair, beard and stuff. But when I came in was to pay my coffee, the man I think it was the the father in the family. He said like this to me. Customers don't like you here. We. Hope you don't come back. Come here again. He said that to me and I never went back to that pop again. because. I didn't feel well come, and you know it says that in the Bible says like this soft tongue. Break is the bones. Cook cops on people. You don't have to take people to secular courts if they. You, know you see what I mean. That's what they did in Vietnam, but the terrible EU and the daughter of Babylon the USA. No they tried to destroy people people in prison than. They end up in private prisons where they just used. For some. Profiteer. And they destroyed some, and you know they all bad things happen to. Just a bad curse county, the daughter Babylon US across the country. And the European Union seems to be the Roman Empire. Restored in the Roman Empire. They crucified people on crosses for all being others you know. So I think I'm going to add now. In the name of the Lord Jesus Christ spirits to depart from each and every person who listens to this order or watches this video. I'm out.

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#52: Harvester Designs

hopnology: Hop Growing and Brewing for Craft Beer

41:25 min | 5 months ago

#52: Harvester Designs

"Good morning. How was your trip to Chicago? Fantastic chilly but really good. It's always fun. Time down there so all those eager brewers that want to learn all sorts of new stuff or then you always have the three or four that sit there with our arms folded because they're from gigantic production. Breweries that you know and they know it all already better. So James was down at the institute teaching pull dancing. I think potent yet well advanced pull the whole dancing Excellent no stupid. But wouldn't that have been fun to. Nobody wants to see that. Because it'll it'll last like three seconds and then they'll be. The ambulance will be there because I am very poorly coordinated and most of my joints are bad. Okay so that helps their curmudgeon. The old man fuels fuels him. Inside of me. Your your flexibility is not what it used to be pitcher especially when it comes to Ip variety. But please continue my beer. Flexibility is is is is completely gone but no I was teaching. I was teaching hop chemistry and bring chemistry Sensory Science to the advanced master brewers course and it's always good time that's always a good time to to be in front of all his brewers and and get to Get to see their faces when I show them data. The tells them that all the stuff they've been doing is wrong or or there's no basis in fact and they're like well what do you mean. I know. There's no way that you can? You don't have to leave Hopson for more than four hours to get an you know dry hop we leave ours in for two weeks. Can you're dumb? Because here's all the data that shows that at twenty three degrees Celsius. You've done a full extraction on your dry hop and four hours. So what are you doing all? That's just not how you do it. Well in your dumb so so are the data. So are these all season. Two brewers or are some of your class brewers to be or home brewers looking for the next level. That's a that's a different class so there's basically fundamentals of brewing science and then they don't even get. I don't even see those folks because it's just that the chemistry we talk about. It's way too deep for them. They'd be they're still trying to understand why their water chemistry is important. The I teach the advanced track stuff. So these are all folks that been brewing for a while at different levels could be massive. Production brewers like the last one. We had We had two of line brewer guys there from the bread that makes Takata and We had a couple of people we had a one person there from Kieran and Another person there from Sapporo but then everybody else was some some level of quote craft brewery. Which what does that mean anymore? But but they were non large scale. Production brewers you've got to change your angle. You know how you're talking to these people because some people wanna know all about everything there is no about hop pellets. But like the cure in Sapporo Takata people. They're like dude. We're Harper sent extract. Wow we don't use actual hop product. We use advanced modified chemically modified alpha acids so they stay light stable and things like that. Tell us about that. Tell us about the issues of kettle injecting verses in line injecting co two extracts and Blah Blah Blah. So it runs the gamut and it's a very very intense a couple of days. Nice very nice to the old bring samples from their breweries. No they do not do no but they the day before I got there. They want to breeze malting in Wisconsin. And if you look on there because isn't right. I'm in Madison. So it's two and a half three hours from downtown. Which is where the institute is and if you look on their schedule at says the their their trip to Bruce Malting says is titled. Behind the Cheddar curtain. Oh I love it so so. They were all in Wisconsin the day before. And sometimes I'll I'll meet them there for that day because it's just fun to hang out with the guys from Greece but It's their opportunity to get all this. Wisconsin beer mostly new glamorous because they can't get it in Chicago and so then they're like. Oh Hey I want. Let's let's taste all these beers in this what we do on after we do the hop rub in the sensory sessions on on Friday. They open the the Beer Choubey and we just drink their beer samples that they brought back with them. So they're unloading all this beer you know. And it's like Hey James. This is from your phone so brewery from from your neck of the woods. I'm like yeah no thanks. I don't think so I never had a good beer glaris. Now you're talking opened those babies up all the others are sort of been there done that that point well that and they're just not good. Well Yeah I don't yeah I understand. You're you guys are all excited. But I don't drink that crap here so anyway. That's what I was doing and that's always fun so I do that a few times a year very nice. That does sound like a good time right so that's Chicago and so we had some questions. This week about Harvester designed Yup. We did and you're seeing a lot of these right now. At least you know coming up upon the season in North America and on the Hop Growers Forum the US Hop Growers Forum People Are Selling Harvesters Selling Baylor's as as folks get out of business were or upgrade to something larger. But I think more it's the former than the latter right. But you're seeing all these folks selling harvesters and talking about how they work and what the mechanics are behind him. So we had some questions in terms of. How do you put one of together if I want to do it myself? And I think we talked earlier I don't remember which episode it was right about the made mentions cave anybody's GonNa be designing their own little harvest or you know. Let me know because I could give you some some pointers some critical aspects and and mark In Australia he was the one that paying me and said. Hey you said to let you know. And I'm I'm interested so I said why don't you post that on the dischord server and so that's where this all started and Some some back and forth and I said you know what I think would get a whole episode out of this. Oh Yes oh. Some great pictures on the dischord server to of how people are doing thing right right. So yeah if you're designing your own Harvester thought let's let's just have a Chitchat because we've done it a few times and I think you didn't tell me Greg. Didn't you say you found a old bind thirty sixty for sale? Yes the other day on a hop growers for someone selling. They were the second owner. And yes we're looking to move it onto a third owner. They they had it in a truck bed. They were just taking it to the mall with them. Sure sure yeah why not. I think it was gonna be the President's Day parade this weekend. Alright yet so yes so. Let's talk about this. Let's talk about the really critical things that that will. That will help improve your small harvester out of the gate so you don't have to go through so many iterations because well think about it. How many times a year do you get a chance to field? Test your design one right one and so then it's like all right. I WANNA make all these changes will have to wait till next year. So let us help you save three or four seasons by going through a few a few biggies right now. I think you said this also on the discord server new. I've I've done this wrong many more times than you have so I have some good insight for you. The APP pretty much pretty much so just to recap from our harvesters episode. When you're mechanically harvesting hops are two two stages right there's stripping the Bein getting all the leaves cones off while getting all the cones off the leaves come with them and then they're separating and sorting and people focus in general when I see home built harvesters. People Focus way too much on the stripping and not nearly enough on the sorting. Stripping is the easy part that is the most straightforward process of the entire operation. There are a couple of critical things. But there's not a lot of brain work that needs to be onto that sorting on the other hand is a whole nother whole nother monster. Every single production model of quote small-scale. Harvester that we've run across completely neglect the sorting aspect. And that's where people are are doing. Some sort of farm engineered added on in order to get the things to sort correctly because they spend far too much time on the mechanics of of stripping really sorting ends up becoming a manual process at that point and the purpose of this machine is to save the bodies that were doing that correct. That's exactly right. And so you just you move the Labor to a different operation instead of reducing the Labor. That was the big deal with. When we designed the buying thirty sixty people get all bent out of shape that it's throughput was so so low. You know thirty to sixty binds an hour. What the thirty sixty stands for it right but the fact of the matter is they didn't have to have anybody sorting anything because we focus on two thirds of the machine was sorting so and. I remember when we were when we had the first production models out I. One of our one of our partners was like they were losing too many cones over the top of this order and so I set one of our employees down there with a five gallon bucket and said pickup every hop Cohen. That comes over the top inside of an hour. He had maybe a quarter of a five gallon bucket so nothing so so nothing. And I'm like okay so I spent fifteen bucks to save two dollars with hops right. So that's that's something else folks need to consider when you're mechanically harvesting doing this for throughput. So don't kill yourself with the stuff. You're losing over the top there's going to be loss period and people think that hand harvesting is one hundred percent. It is not. It's one hundred percent for about the first twenty minutes you're doing it. And then people get people get bored to tears and they just they just start grabbing and Yanking and you get a bunch of chatter. You get what you leaves in their cluster. So it's not one hundred percent of their paws so I can write down grabbing and Yanking the episode title grabbing and Yanking. Oh it'll get better. I'm sure more coffee okay. So let's talk about the these two stages right now. Things that that that we've learned so the number one thing. The number one design. I see growers building for themselves for Stripper is a is a rotor rate. So a drum with picking fingers on it that rotate and basically sweep the cones off of a bind. That's very standard. Florin down our back in the twenties and the the teens patented that design granted. It's off patent outright. But that's design wolf uses and any is extremely efficient. Don't try to reinvent the wheel and those picking fingers are available all over the place. I mean it's it's your point. Don't make those yourself. They're out there. They're very easily daisy chain. And I got I always got my parts right from down our manufacturing so look them up online. They sell the the fingers. They sell the clips that hold the fingers down rivets if you WANNA use them everything Very very good Tom. Fraser's the president. He's a friend of mine now and way back in the day when we started asking questions about this he was always very forthcoming about you. Know Hop Harvesters and what they look like because you know his harvesters harvesters you build a new build the building around them. You know he's like I could build you a one line operation for about eight hundred thousand dollars like Oh okay. How about just the fingers so so I would buy them in a box of one hundred for like ten cents a piece. I mean they were cheap. You'RE GONNA use a drum and most small-scale designs use a single drum. I think that's fine to start off with. And even the thirty sixty was a single drum but if we were going to increase the throughput right so am by increases throughput. I don't mean shove more plants through it. It's take less time stripped by right. Then you need to have more drums and the drums would have to pick top and bottom at the same time so you think about that in a traditional design the way you feed the bind end like if it was going to be pulled through imagine sort of like one of those old fashioned. Washing machine ring rollers rate. Put your underwear through it and you run a run the crank and a squishy water out So you'd have basically two counter rotating drums one above the other that the bind would go through rights. You're picking from the top and the bottom of the same time right right and then you would be able to adjust that gap between them based on. How bushy the bind was and all that good stuff and the the big deal here is or I'm sorry which direction the the rotors rotate. So if you're gonNA drag the whole bind through the system. You're going to generally stick the the cut in the butt end in first right all right. It's not like the top. We know that that comes off the top of the of the plant. You'd be sticking the end and I and it would be pulled through the system and that end is certainly more more media easier to grab. It seemed likely to break off. It's pulling the rest of the way to the buying through correct. Yep think about what you don't want to have happen. You don't want to have this harvester. These these rotors ripping sidearms off because once a side arm gets ripped off. It doesn't get picked for for Shit. Certainly on a small scale harvester you'd need to add a separate What they call a cluster buster a separate Doodad to to pick those pine or pick the side arms. And that's a whole. We're not gonNA talk about that because it's complicated. So the idea is if you can keep those sidearms attached as it goes through. You're going to get much better cleaner. Pick if you think about how sidearms form you got your your main buying going up right. And then those sidearms form as branches and they droop down. But if you look at that angle of where the sidearms attached to the main Bein- it's like they're going up. And then they droop down. So what you don't want to do is grab that sidearm and yanked downwards because you're going break it right off you wanNA actually sweep it back sort of up towards the the what would be the top of the line and have those. Roeder's sweeping backwards. That's going to produce the best cleanest pick and you're going to break off the least number of side arms that way so that would mean if you're starting but and I that you're rotors are actually turning basically towards the person feeding the hotline. An right right because you want to sweep the sidearms back. That means a spitting cones at you. So you're GONNA have to put some sort of flappy doodles down there in order to keep it from from from spitting your all your cones back at you. I'm sure there's some sort of a business to be made of getting hop cones thrown at you for the bureau obsessed. I probably there probably is. If you're doing it. That way feeding the button and I. The rotors should be spinning such that. It's you know spinning cones you. If you're going to use sort of what we call the the grab and pull method where you have to rotors. That are spinning away from you even one rotor spinning away from you. You're going to have to be sticking the big bushy and top. End of the the top of the buying in and that's usually the least manageable to get in their brakes. It's all Bush doubt and you're not going to get a clean pick so what I would encourage people to do is think about you. Don't like on a on a wolf harvest or you've got this chain and these pinch blocks we call them that riding a track and literally what you're doing is you're taking that big woody media bind part in your cramming it behind the block and it's just friction that drags this thing through through the harvest. So what I would encourage people to do is look at you. Know this. Top and bottom counter. Rotating rotors and you know. Years doesn't have to be continuously operating right. You can stop it thread party. You're buying through and started up again and have somebody on the other end just slowly pulling it through. It could be that simple right one at a time. Once you understand those mechanisms then you can start thinking about well. Maybe I have a little take-up wheel on the other side where I just stick the binding and it slowly pulls it through all sorts of creative ideas you can do. But I would highly encourage people to have a rotor the top a rotor on the bottom that counter rotate. And if you stick in the bud ended and I the. The wheels would basically be spinning. Drums will be spinning such that. They are throwing tossing cones back at you. So that's that's a good. That's a good pointer. The other thing that I see people doing with their rotors is that they've only got three or four. Rows of teeth of picking fingers on them and the rotor is relatively small diameter. And that's a big mistake We we had that and it was. It was a big mistake because the only way that a that a hop harvester actually picks strips your mind when those teeth encounter cones. And you WanNa do that as gently as possible. So if you have fewer rows of picking fingers and you're like wow man this thing's going really slow. It's only going like twenty. Rpm Well over time you know per unit time. Those fingers aren't really doing much contacting right. So you're like well. This has to go faster so I'm going to speed this up so you know it's it's actually. The fingers are contacting the bine more frequently. Then you're gonNA tear exactly so now you're adding energy and instead of picking the cone year shattering or you're breaking it and it becomes too aggressive so you're way better off increasing the size of your rotor and adding more fingers. How many fingers? I'd say at least ten rows of fingers if if not more I think my Wolf Harvester. One forty had the drum itself. Just without the F- The diameter of the drum before the fingers attached were probably sixteen inches and then I bet it had twenty rows of a fingers on and and had six drums. So that's how you get up to x number one hundred and forty binds. An hour is by having more fingers picking at a lower RPM and then having more drums. That's where your throughput comes from. I know we've talked before about the situation. Use specifically encountered of Harvester. That was not hitting those numbers. It was because it was running too fast. And you're getting shattering and things like that that actually slowing the machine down in price. Increase the throughput correct. Yep Faster is not better. That's for sure so people would you know I've got this thing turned up to eleven. Basically an it's only giving me half. I'm only get worse my yield going. You mean you look at these these plants and they got a huge numbers of cones on them and they look great. But I'm just not getting anything going into the dryer and you look at their trash line. You see all these brax going out the other end. And it's like you know a junior slow this thing down and you're going to get a better pick and lo and behold all of a sudden the dryers filling up just so that one. Little thing changed the entire the entire performance. They are sensitive little plants that we have to treat them gently they are the and you know what the longer you leave that plant set after it's been cut the more shatter. You're going to get so as that. Plant dried loses moisture which it will very quickly once you cut it. Those cones lose water pressure. It's called Tiger T. U. R. G. O. R. Pressure and they become more limp and they're easy to shatter that way so only cut what you can harvest through that machine. I would say half an hour. So for you small-scale growers that may mean you're only cutting one or two plants at a time and that's okay you'll get what's better through putting said going out cutting entire row knowing full well. You can't do more than ten ten plants in an hour interesting because that does fly in the face a bit of the efficiency side of getting out there and cutting it depends on. How many people? You've got doing things simultaneously as well correct. Start Small keep going so we talked about Rotor Direction. We talked about how big your rotor drums should be number fingers. You've had on it and that speed kills right on your on your odors. Slow it down and be more deliberate about it and if you're finding that it's going to slow the process is going to slowly. You either need to add more fingers to your drought or drum or you need to add more rotors and usually both looking at my list here. Oh how fast fashion my rotor spin. I hear that all the time. Ideally you're going to have it be variable told. The discord folks is usually between sixty and one hundred and twenty. Rpm's but you want it sort of infinitely adjustable one hundred twenty. Rpm's is is pretty aggressive. So I would think more towards the sixties. Let's basically one revolution per second people at Wal. That's slow on. I've got four rows of fingers. Exactly add more fingers. I think I mean honestly. That's really all there is destroying. Make sure that if you've got multiple if you've got opposing Roeder's that you can adjust the gap between them because that changes by variety very important in the design phase. They were to make sure very important in the design phase. Should we move onto sorting the edges? Hard part sorting. And probably the one where you have you seen more. How do I put this? You see lots of different ideas and ways to do this. We're picking is what it is. It's a pretty much an industry standard to do it right right and and then you're like okay. Now I got to sort these leaves from these cones. And what's the one thing you see the number one thing you see in terms of hop sorting but file on Fine Child Labor Child Labor Yup exactly find the shiny. No WE DON'T. We just saw as a future reference. The one thing you see on social media on picture you know online videos are what we call dribble builds era and so these basically think of a treadmill an a steeply inclined treadmill with a bunch of cones rolling down it and somehow another flat leave. Stick to go up over the top round cones. Roll Down Right. That's true that that were that is part of the sorting operation. But it's not the sorting operates. That's like the very very end. Dribble belts are basically polishers? They're getting the leaves that didn't get sorted out from the primary sort and you never see that because it's enclosed people. Think that and I don't put this the designers of these small-scale harvesters Auger drill bolts dribble belts. Because that's what they see online. All you gotta have two bunch Dribble Belsen. So we'll put like four in there but they get overloaded because dribble belts are only four the final polish the primary sorting method to get rid of leaves and let cones fall past. It is what we call air classification. When you're trying to sort dissimilar materials you the first thing you do in any industry is make use of its physical properties. In this case leaves are very flat and very wide so they catch air quite quite easily whereas our ups will roll right. They're round they're very aero dynamic. They don't present much surface area to airflow so they will fall through an airstream whereas leaf will get caught by it and taken away right. You're number one growers. Listen to me if you take nothing else. Away from this podcast. You're number one. Sorting method has be air classification period. Now how do you do that? Well James said well we have to have a bunch of air so I'm going to get a leaf blower and I'm going to have it blow air through a falling stream of hopson leaves. Yep You could do that. You absolutely could do that. Or you can have a fan right on. The other side sucking. That's pulling everything away. Yep You could do that too. But you have to understand that you're gonNA need to be able to vary that airflow and you're also going to want to make sure that depending on how much debris is falling through from the Reuters. You know if you're having a really aggressive you know stripping operation and you've really got that dial in you may overwhelm your airflow with debris and not get good sort so then you're like well now. What am I gonNA do need more air while? That's one way if you add more air like more pressure. Now you're GonNa Start Blowing cones to your way street right so you have to be able to dial that in that air flow in just right. I encourage you growers to look at a Wolf Harvester and look at like an old one. Forty one seventy and look at how it handles the airstream so what? They do what they've done is they have. After all hop stripped from the Reuters there's a conveyor belt that brings all that debris to the front of the machine where you're feeding hops in and they come cascading down over. The edge passed a you know. It's a big gap and there's a big too big fans on the sides of this machine you'll see them sorta like Tubas sticking out the side and And those are fans creating negative pressure and so they're sucking air into the machine but there's a mesh screen in there that rotates what it's doing is it's creating negative pressure and sucking leaves out of that falling cascading stream of hop debris. It's taking sucking leaves against that. That's Mesh screen and the Mesh screen is rotating up out of the way. So it's carrying the leaves and debris away and presenting fresh empty naked screen beneath it so more leave so can be sucked sucked against it and carried away so it's like a conveyor bill that's carrying debris away and I imagine what's carries it away gets out of the the airflow so those leaves that fall somewhere else. Yep they go onto the trash and then you have a fresh screen to come back and collect more YEP and if you you look at some of the older designs. It was a rotating drum. That was a mess. Drum that debris from stripping cones and leaves came in were presented into sort of this vertical shaft where air is being pulled through it against a rotating drum that was mesh and the top and the bottom of that that vertical channel. Where the things were. The debris was falling through sealed against that drum to some extent with like brushes. So that as that drum rotated rate it's it's mash. There's negative pressure being pulled through that drum. The leaves are getting sucked to it. And as the drum rotates through past those sealed brushes then there was like a a solid wall back there where there was no suction and there was another brush that was brushing leaves off. The drama was going out into the garbage. That worked great the way that we tackled it with a bind. Thirty sixty was if I may say so. Pretty Damn ingenious and it worked really well. I think it worked the best part of the whole the whole operation so we had. We had combined the dribble belt with the air class fire but before we did that we everything ran through trauma screen so big open. Mesh screen that hops could fall through but leaves couldn't and it was on a slight angle so that that was doing the primary sort of all the big giant leaves in any sidearms right that got ripped off so we could grab those and running back through the machine so this this trauma screen had holes in that. We're probably an inch and a half inch and a half. Maybe bigger so that Cohen's could fall through it and small leaves onto onto this inclined belt. The belt was Mesh so just like I talked about that. Mesh screen in the Wolf. That leaves got sucked to we had to fans underneath of this underneath of this inclined belt that was pulling negative pressure so the leaves would get stuck to the belt and get carried up and over the top within the vacuum broke. Because there's no airflow and this end. The belt was inclined so that the cones roll down and it worked great work fantastic and that was that was that was all the more complicated and needed to be and that could handle two or three stripping units easy peasy so We're like Built stripper bigger. Yeah well as you just finished saying with the stripper. The thing that we we could have done better there was to have two drums. Yup more more fingers improve that side of it but yet the disorder piece work extremely well. Yep One you're when you're dealing with the sorter you'll be surprised at how much of an incline that sorta belt needs in order for those cones to roll. I mean it was. We had when we first started. We had that that bed that SORTA bed able to tilt up to about forty five degrees. Because we're like. Yeah that's enough. We didn't know no. It needs to be more like seventy five degrees in order to get good. Sorting up cones are not really round now. They're they're not in it but it's you've also got a lot of air pressure. You know negative pressure. That's trying to hold things against and so you need to have enough angle there to get good separating But the the biggest key there is that you can't have a static angled bed that you're planning just to go in and rake. Rake leaves off by hand at has to rotate away and always be presenting new. Fresh empty screen. Expect that if you don't have that that it's going to cause you problems and again and then you can use dribble belts at the end just to Polish up any little leaves. That might get left behind but know that on the big machines. The only reason they use dribble belt is because they're through put is so high that if they were going to use air classification to do ninety nine percent instead of ninety that that air class classified would probably have to be three times as big now. You've referenced triple belts a couple of times but really only in passing. Let's let's assume there's someone out there who doesn't know what that really is. You have an income. Think about an inclined highly inclined treadmill. That's in that belt is rotating up right so it's going inkling up the incline and rolling over the top and they're usually a rubber belt. That's textured Some of the belts like on a Wolf Harvester. The last dribble belt. There's three of them. The last one has like Steel teeth on it like like nails every oh I'd say eighteen inches or so across it. That are there to grab like twigs inside arms and in any like curled up leaves that that tend to at aren't flat that will roll so they're there to help sort of separate that but these are you can adjust the angle on these things in the idea is that because hop cones role and leaves her flat and if you have textured belt that the leaf will stick to it and and go up with it and over the top and the cones will roll down backwards. You have more than three more than one of these things because you have to figure that the first one you're going to have pitched sort of not flat but less less steep so that you're getting the majority of the leads to go up and over in but you're going to get some cones to right and then the next one's a little bit more steep and because there's less cones and more leaves so than those cones can roll down because you wanNA separate the cones and at least go can go up and over and then the last ones the steepest so that any. Cohen's that are left. Go GET OUT OF THE SYSTEM. And that's the one that usually had the teeth on it that would grab the leaves and take them up over the top and so really at that point you should have ninety five percent cones and five percent leaves one. It's going into the dribble bill. Otherwise it's not gonNA work at all. It's going to be awful. Drill belts are just polishers? They're not there for his primary sort. If your life you're looking at them and sorry guys you've built your dribble belts and that's what you're doing. You're you'RE GONNA be sore about this after the season. Go with air classifying. I there now you have now. You have the secrets to building your own Hop Harvester. All the secrets. So get started and tell us what they look like. Yeah I'll do all right of some sort of blog post with some pictures or some badly handwriting images For our patrons and put it up there Patriot on so everybody can see what I'm talking about nice and I want you to something else that you said. And you're on a roller didn't want to interrupt you but you you referred to it as an aggressive stripping operation which brings us right back to how. I started with your dancing class. I think exactly. Yes yes nice. When these things come full circle we try to make a narrative here. Just pop -nology. Yes a great topic. I mean absolutely great topic. I know our our folks in the Southern Hemisphere are in the midst of harvest or will be shortly. So which is where this topic came from but for those of us in the Northern Hemisphere. This is stuff you should be working on now so a piece of this that I think we we do see the question. Quite bid is okay so I understand design wise what I need to do. Do I bring my hops to my stripper doing my spring my stripper to my hops. Because something of this size potentially and you talk about about size but you can make them in a mobile capacity when they're small enough to drag around. I've seen them on wheels versus the other comment of you know. Build Build Your Harvester and then build a barn around it right so it all comes down to volume and what. You're what you're trying to do. Ideally you would be doing this in the shade because again hops lose moisture quickly assumes you cut them off so get those cut binds out of shape or into the shade out of the Sun. And that'll that'll buy some more time. I've seen them people say yeah. We pull this out to the field that we haul it around everybody else's hop yards. I mean you can do whatever you want you know. You don't need to have a giant building for these small things you can put them on trailers and move them around. That's one of the good things about being very small hop Gar. But I don't know I prefer to have my mind shade because it's usually a lot nicer to run the shade or people say well. Can I strip them out in the field and take all that stripped material back to the shed in sort? It sure? Why not see people do that too? But now I've got to split operations and that means I have to split cruise so I'd rather keep them altogether. You also got a piece of equipment where you're trying to maintain angles and you need to run electricity to all those things that you are you're adding complexity and potential failure points once you're lugging around as opposed to having in one place so you know as the mechanic of our system. I wanted everything in one place. You're an Acre and a half away from your bar and and you need that particular wrench. Yup Oh yeah exactly so I wanted to bring it up because he does. It does come up a lot of these small ones. You see them built in a mobile capacity both both from bring them out to the field perspective as you said. But also you mentioned the sharing side of it and you'll find that with with neighboring hop yards. Oh let's let's go together on harvest or that. We can move around yeah. I would highly highly discourage people from doing that because you all needed at the same time and who gets it when so it's not that simple agreed definitely not that simple at all. It looks good way to save some money but yeah anyway. That's what I got. What stuff good stuff. What do I got? Will you know me I've got housekeeping housekeeping? So we have had a bunch of new folks join us on Patriots. Thank you so much to Cameron. Kearns Day gleason Mark Bone Emma and someone known only as Jitsu Jimmu. Thanks to you. His name's Ryan but he goes by. Who have they've all dill joined us on the show page? So the you mentioned doing some blog posts about this with him. Yep Diagrams and whatnot so they'll have access to all of that fun stuff excellent excellent and we We appreciate everyone who comes out there and supports us as well as following us on the inside the thing to use the thing. You've got to see James Presenting in In Chicago this past week. Well I mean now. It'll be like two or three weeks until you hear this drill. We're living in our own little time zone here. We Are Yup. That's it for four housekeeping. It's all I got today. So you got sola got all. 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20200524 podcast

Jesus is the Christ

33:37 min | 2 months ago

20200524 podcast

"No okay so making another pulled cost. Yeah and I'm doing this pulled closed because I wanna talk about the whole roll shortages. How Wrong Churches Otley Roland Evil? It is and I wanted to warn against the pastors on the Internet ordained pastor on the Internet. The tried to find out trials to find out if the person that is on the Internet is an ordained pastor. You've it is an ordained pastor. Then you shouldn't listen to him actually and it is as far as you should listen to this. Appoint with is that people think that they can listen to things you know. It won't hurt them to listen to things they think but if we trust the Bible it actually says that it can hurt you to listen to things. I'm going to somewhere. I think it's in Matthew in the sermon on the Mount. It says something like this It says something like this. It says You cannot in partaking the you know table of the dabbles and the table of God or something or Christ It's In the sermon. On the Mount Yeah and as I understand what that means is you can't do both and this is what people do they do. Both you know or they think they can listen to someone and then they can help them. You know they can listen to them and and tried to have them correct or review them and agreed with some that they say. But when you're dealing with these Internet pastors what I'm talking about this ordained pastors on the Internet. People can you. Can you can go to for some. You can take a distance. Course at an Evangelical Interest Institute in becoming ordained pastor or you can study at some place and become an ordained pastor and these people You should watch out for these people because even though they claim to be uncharged because many of some of these people will claim somehow to to be You know to be against the arch but still be have something to to say to contribute to be men of God is on and and what. I'm trying to say here is that They will eventually try to destroy you because of that you had anything to do with them. And this is the nature of You know the the nature of Satan you know they want to destroy because you had anything to do with basically they come to you with wrong fellowship. They come to you in sin and evil and in demons and if you talk to them you will commit the senior wrong fellowship. The scene of eating with a table of Dabbles and actually that this will This great mixture and they themselves can say they can claim to be narrow. Roeder's I and that the others are makes during so on what you eventually find out that the if you fellowship with them that's GONNA be your problem. Because they you know they they have they might have demons you know they have demons or they haven't they generally have a false gospel. They have another spirit and another Jesus very well put in the Bible and this is how says in the Bible so beware of these people so I thought for a long time that can be people who can be. There might be pleasant to listen to. It might be something good about. You might believe that. Is something good fruit there in the end but You know if they have the wrong gospel. They're not gonNA lead you that they don't know actually. They lost their confused themselves. You know but in the shortages I have found that that can be people that are much more terrible in nasty evil sense in this way that basically you will eventually be They will eventually died. Tried to destroy by by the very fact that you talk to them. You know that we use that against you that you have talked to them. They will also get to come to them. And then you'll talk to them and then they will destroy you by that you know so this is the kind of nastiness that now there are many people that You know authority can do this kind of stuff and So we should be careful with authority a But the churches or when it comes to the churches have different data to they come can come and say that he had everyone is walk common. Refrain so you can be yourself and so on and then they tried to utterly destroy you with false accusations with false accusations and I personally noticed when this happened to me that is ordained pastor on the Internet. He was not Supporting you know th the they were working for the. I think they're mainly mainly they not for other people really but The for themselves. Generally that bought the you know they would rather take the take the position. Albano deigned pastor than take than believe in. You know what you say and I say believe me. I don't like have you know really just faith in me or anything. But just you know. They're just not Right to have anything to do with these ordained pastors. They Devil Devil there. They have a devil in them. I think because if they have another spirit You know. Then they have an evil spirit or non-clean spiriting them you know. This is serious stuff because they all spiritual a spiritual thing. They're into but they have another gospel. Then it becomes something very nasty or on clean that is going on so I've turned away from ordained pastors ordained pastors left Now an I I want someone if I hear that someone has entered training to become a pastor. You know and I was pastor. I mean any you know could be priest or pastor or or officer in the Salvation Army. Whatever you know. They're all basically pastors at the. I use the word pastor to to describe these people who have you know like three year course in theology or whatever it is to become or sometimes it four years but you know higher education in some at some theological institute To get this this degree where they can practice and they can lose this degree similar to how a doctor can do licensed to practice in Sweden. They can lose their license to preach or to to be a priest folks. They All the crimes they can lose it. You know so in Sweden so They so full of it. These people so full Oh crap that is amazing and they and they don't show it you know it's the most intelligent ones Will Not show their The other side. You could call it so it will take a long time for you to realize it might take a long time but when you mongoose ways to interact with people if you interact dare to interact with people and they reply. That's how you can find out things because you noticed you know is not necessarily possible to find out if you don't interact with them all you do interact with people in it. Since I started to interact with people that I started to to to get a better understanding all over the world before I was living in my little bubble and just trying to be nice to people you know. You're you're living to the bobble trying to be nice to people survive at and have a decent time. I good time. That was a lot of my life before I started his interaction. That interaction Kennel Course Put you in trouble. But that's how I found out that's how I found out about this system and Pastors or part of the system. You know they're not part of God's people or something they port of the system and there are lot that there are as I said ordained pastors who can say something like that you have. You know I've taken the the degree I am. No pass the but I don't I'm not pastor something because I'm a disciple or I'm a man of God or something and they but once you find out that there are deigned pastors but they. They put their mosque on. You know that they decide whatever. Watch out these people are not. They have a loyalty to the pastors and the system. That that Will actually they actually aren't Fellowship with you it's not fellowship it's not lobbying fellowship would be lobbying fellowship or at least you know something but they aren't you know he's all about them and you know they're friends with the world Or maybe friends with the world. The part of the world you know the part of the system and they will. Their heart is with a system. They're all of them with the we've got in God's people this sounds people will listen to this and it was while you just you know you had a bad day or something or you're developing your own personal ideas or whatever but it's true this and this is the thing about God's word also that Most people can read the Bible and they just brush over it and and and then they continue with their life. It's hidden in plain sight to them. They they just don't hear it they don't hear properly they they can see it they can read it and so on and then he just goes out there had and they continue and maybe they can said. I've also this was a wants to punt time. I was like this in. I tried to to read the word of God and see if it was true. You know that's not how you should read the word of God. You should read the word of God and know that it's true and if you don't understand it's because you haven't it hasn't been revealed to you. It's not that it's not true. It's still true. Everything in the water guard is through the King James Bible the ABC sixteen eleven. And then I recommend the eighteen thirty three reprint of it which you can buy so said I have owned my site. You can go there to free gift. Dot MAINSTREAM SITES DOT COM. There have a lot. I think it's also if you go to zyppah dot com domain have linked to it. You know I can give. You can give stuff away zones. I'm thinking about doing that. Give stuff away is a good thing to do Get rid of it. That's the I've noticed that when I give stuff away I feel. I can't do that. You know It's mine and I've spent time as money on but when you give it away water relief it is water relief. It is to give things away and I'm thinking of doing that more of these things that you don't really need so I want to warn against not just talking interacting with with Ordained Pastors Priests Officers Officers the name in the Salvation Army for the ORDERING PASTORS NOT. Just warn against listen talking to them but I would actually warn against listening to them because many of these people you can listen to on Youtube and you just click and they stop playing and it's all free and you think you're safe to think it's okay but you're you're feeding of the table off demons but you do this and people don't understand that and you know when they have another gospel they have another spirit. That more doesn't mean you was demons because if it's not the spirit of God it's spiritual teams you know so And you're going to be straight and not only that God doesn't tolerate when you do this. God doesn't tolerate it so I really want to warn against these ordained pastors. Really Much. He's also a snare in the sense that the many meant there. There are Christians. Who but they actually want to snare you generally but now even you can. You can even be people who You know the Unsaved lost more morals to want to be on top of everyone they want. They want to be in charge of those who supposed to believe in. Jesus you know I I don't want to talk about by have a contact your enemies work. Come from your own household your relatives. Generally I've I've I've had these enemies from my close relatives. You know I expanded. That talked about the in the by Jesus in The Gospel. Talks about this. I'll go through terrible but they're still enemies some you know I'm This it doesn't go away generally but just learn to live with it Alone to to deal with them But what I'm saying is that they can. In some cases they can call you a member of charge. They can call an editor or pastoring. The Church and complain about you is so short she's Should not be a member of any church. You know You know they just want power over you. That's what it's about and short is not is not God anyway so you see you're in the full spirit again. This is the stuff with his another gospel another spirit and another Jesus. They haven't all the Jesus the churches so you in there with the unclean spirits you know and then what while the speeds are going to do what they always do. Especially if you believe in Jesus Christ they're going to try to destroy your Dade Jesus you know and Stephan and so on so you might be martyred in some way. They might falsely accused through. You know tighter Tony over to to legal authorities so I don't advise people to To have any in the church. I myself pickup food in a church. Now and then and this food doesn't count from the charge that this is what I want to be people also on the Internet. Want to expose me for because I pick up food from charge and now speak against the churches so there are people who trolls hiding by anonymous profiles drugging and drinking. Who want to expose me. You know Led by someone clean spirit or something and I want to stress. This that the food I get from the shortages is not from the churches. It's a Megastar magazine that is using help organizations to distribute food. And it's old food so I have to throw away fifty percents of it and you know sometimes I throw away more nowadays. I don't tolerate anything that contains mostly by that contains That when see something bad about this is just mold and stuff can can be like an iceberg. That it's You don't see door little showing then it's inside the roots and all so I throw away a lot but there are certain things you can eat like eggs and more I think potatoes and things like that and also milk and walnuts and when they have their own teams. Like what what? What was it more oath thinking about eggs and I don't remember now but there are sort of but the meat I don't eat generally I I do sometimes and I get this feeling something bad about it but sometimes I've been thinking if it has been Given to idols or sacrificed to idols. Some because it goes through the church. More and more me thinking. There's a big warning against eating meat. Sacrifice to idols. It's actually comparable to fornication you know and but I think they somewhere somewhere else in the Bible. They say that we can eat it if we don't consider to sin. I don't know really about this stuff with the this this food from the because I mean it comes from food mega stores. So it's A. It's a supermarket superstar for food and they get old food and then they give it to help organizations and these churches and they have volunteers and they on the Marta. One person with salary or one point five people like a musician and a pastor with salary in the rest are just volunteers. The rest are just working there without salary and So so that's how it is so we forgive sins of this what I've noticed also that this is interesting. What you notice. Also that these pastors Dane passes on the Internet. They are they are generally you notice they have full doctrine and they have such force doctrine that it's gone as you shouldn't listen to them. Even you shouldn't listen to them. And that's what I realized you shouldn't listen to these people. These ordained pastors. You know I have a feed both on my facebook on Youtube. Where what I get this People sight subscribe to them. But I don't click on it. I don't click on it so I listened to them. You know that that's the good thing you shouldn't have any ULTA place there you know but I do because I wanNA know. If his people are known to some degree you talk to some degree can be interesting to see what happens to them or what they're up to and so on but I'm not gonNA for us to click on a video and listen to what they say because the then you're being part in partaking in their evil deeds or you're eating with devils you know so. I even have you know a Catholic priest that I have I'm subscribing kind of to his to his stuff on facebook so I get an update of his. He would happen with his charge their whatever but I don't click on it you know I don't click on it so just just rose by as a updates mainly so you don't click you know that that's because then you become partake then you eat from the table of the devils when you listen to them. You know so so So I can. I can subscribe to some people you know. Not because I I mean interested in them or whatever but simply because I have been in contact with for some for some reason there had some discussion with them. But doesn't mean that I that I that I yeah that I would listen to and this is important. People don't realize it's I didn't realize it. I need realized I was listening to To People Youtube and I didn't realize that I was actually being defying. You could save by the fact that I listened to them. It's legal on the Internet. You can put out a lot of stuff you know you can put up for free the this site the service I paid for this sound cloud service I I do paid for but You can put out things for free on youtube or as this sounds I'm putting this out you know but it doesn't mean that You know but people listen to something. It's a personal choice on the Internet. They don't want forcing you to listen to anything on the Internet. You know there's enforcing you you can just subscribe. And so that's what I want to say. You know out with these pastors. Oh my God these pastors these ordained pastors what attracted you know which out and what I mean by that. Yeah yeah input put. It doesn't does it. Say in the Bible that we should watch out with ordain pastors. It doesn't really does it? But would you must realize this that that was back. Then you know then. Three hundred B C. They set up a three hundred. Ad They set up Constant in the Roman Empire that started made it state religion You know the papacy in all that. It came off the the persecution persecution around the first century. There was a massive persecution first and second century for Christians the Roman Empire there omen emperors. They tortured and killed a lot of Christians. And you know then. They made it the state religion and they set up their own. This is this. Is You know you can read the book of Martyrs Soon and realize what's been going on since the Bible off to the Bible and these pastors are not owned recommend. Have ANY CONTACT WITH THEM? Actually and that's quite interesting that they are and Good but because you know most people the stuff about faith in Christianity and all this stuff most atheists they come in contact with either they come in contact with you know the church and the pastors and even people who are believers or they generally go to church you know and so short becomes equivalent to with Let's see I'm fixes? I think I have see I how to fix. So short becomes equivalent to faith in the Lord. Jesus Christ faith in in God faith Christianity Being disciple which which Church member all your practicing your faith here that in church you know. Do you see the they are the that. I've heard people say that I heard a person say that. All you practicing your faith in this church said you see I. Couldn't I couldn't continue picking up food in this Georgia without ending my membership all the short but when I ended my membership I noticed that they would still consider people a member who entered the building or something so the I dunno. They continue with their stuff. Anyway you can't but but The I don't know it just is justice is it's a bit Wrong all this stuff you know will will this. Baxley you know we should. We should name. Jesus with people we meet you know going to the Bible. This is the problem he those who don't They're not God's people or the The while they uses will be ashamed of them or something so we should name Jesus peop- people meet and this becomes a problem with church because you will go into Charleston. They will go do that. You know becomes war and by basically the best way to deal with this Church in Oh. That's what I noticed you calling really going there. Because they got a little dominion through that so basically in the building in the building. They have dominion to to certain extent so short. She's a superhero. Is a problem. You're not allowed to use the full armor. Oh God in there. So how can you possibly be in there? You know you know. I don't know it's just a mess stuff about church. It really is a mass. So did this little audio to people here now and some ten years. Stalker listening here now. Who wants to try to send me to hell with pre TRIB FORCE For the Gospel. Or whatever. But I tell you I tell you that The pastors in the churches are march. Maters that there you have the real devils the real dabbles. You know In the Churches in some churches real devils pepino thing. I'm going to end here so in the name of Jesus Christ that come on clean spirits two of each and every person that listens to this audio I'm out.

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Episode 46 Interview Portion: Dale Romans Interview

Racing Rundown: A Horse Racing Podcast

36:13 min | 7 months ago

Episode 46 Interview Portion: Dale Romans Interview

"All right welcome back to racing run down here. We are first interview of two thousand twenty two new year on this Here we got eclipse award winning trainer Dale Romans on podcast also to tie. Excuse me three time Breeders Cup winner and also preakness winter two thousand fifteen so very happy. Dale on today so without further ado. Let's get into it. So how are you doing today? Dale mark now so I guess the first question that I'd like to ask you is. How did you first get involved with horse racing? Good question because I don't even remember the first time she took me into my Ra. Churchill jobs during the day so My father trained in hodges grew up right there. Churchill downs backside was my playground. So would you say that it was always destined for you to be involved with racing? As you mentioned you started you're at Churchill downs born in Louisville Churchill downs in a very young age. So would you agree with that statement that you were always destined to get involved in this game worked perfect for me? I have really. She's -education a diagnosis. They're severely dyslexic sorrowfully relaxes the state. And so I don't know it's like fake courses with their. I love horses though the business. Just something that I had a natural knack for and never thought about doing anything else and I always say I don't know what more divorce rates now extremely lucky that politicians that. I have that that it was sitting there for me. There was a career opportunity. Do you remember your first professional win as a trainer. That's one you'll in that question. I'm asked about his biggest thrill in racing. Vegas victory those types as I'll have them later on your questions but I want to say that he couldn't have never stopped owner in the first time I wanNA raise it was Miss Mandy instead. Fifteen nine thousand nine hundred eighty turf way park and a very close friend. Jack Uses Laura Hernan and she had come to work for my father couple years earlier about filling and have enough money having Gal performer. So I asked Lord. She could honor every day. I would let her ride is. That's how she never ridden a race and as we got closer and closer to Philly started to veteran bird China courage. You're right someone else who they thought this could win. I stuck to my guns and deal with the deal. Laura Roeder was her first win mouth. I went as a trainer and the horses. I went as a horse and if I had backed up a little bit I had to take her house after out chip taken out of a young doctor up there that Operate on her. It was the first source he ever operating that WanNa race. Doctors afraid with worry plan which you know the world renowned surgeon today so maybe impact and a lot of us in a very positive way. I involved with one four. Do you remember your first stakes winner. A horse by the name of Victor Avenue Watches me Victor Avenue. You good homework to by Victor Avenue. But my first stakes win was owning parts. Talk and There's a horse up. Bought for crimes really yawned for fifty thousand dollars reason about it was a turf. What Park and watch the races in the saddle horse had a barrel. It was almost like a weather. So Salad placed in when Danny Cox was riding came off at turn to saddle slipped when all the way under his belly. Dante somehow stayed on. The horse. Couldn't getting pulled up the road and Mike and Indian bareback down the lane any Iran Second but at the second might be one but if he's got to have that horse so it's much no matter what the win by fifty thousand one three in a row was my first stakes win now. Victor you're talking about was the fall highway and that was my first greatest station. There is a break to great three and he was a nice sources studio Greg James. Buying for me as a whole that. The town was by far the most Myers horse and we took him over. The had a plane in the fall you know. They put a lot of weight our horses. And if you're willy fascinated three-year-old you're going to get in so much someone respond to fifteen pounds and so we wanted to. Dr WORKED UP PERFECTLY SPRINTS. The leading went on and on and he came back to one degrees so one of the first verses that you had this have high level of success on a real high level joy. Do you remember kitten's joy talking about having him come into your training career at that time? Cain bar same time and those to change my career and there's no doubt in Rams and started working for ten Kim so it was a home reading you. Try to sell the April sale. Too Euro sailing he Fortunately didn't getting sold and got him. And it got roasted and also sources were just amazing. Animals grows made my first grade one winner. He won the Whitney Week later. Kids Joy my second grade. One win at Arlington Secretary. He was he was. He's always been my gold. Standard horses other is so smart. He was so talented. If a few are severe. Had that you just let him over and no york-new do you weren't gonNA lose. And he was just an amazing amazing animal in the breeding shed two. He's done nothing but to be a great stars. Class came through. That is a good note to bring kitten's joy has been a very very resounding successful sire. What was that like you mentioned roses in May? I was going to get to him right after kitten's joy. What was that like to get your first grade? One win as a trainer for him and he was just such top horse now the hard orange jerseys. There's some totally different horses yet. They came in and stood side-by-side for years together and I always used to say swearword corrosive as acting up of biting people jumping around a local kitten's joy things like that but he was a tough son regarding healing at harder. Challenge wearing the Whitney. Nobody was stay. She wanted to see us just excited. And it's this was a big thrill. He ran a huge race. Be Perfect drift and it was a great call by DR Congo's perfect. Drift arose may Rosa my imperfect dribs. He goes back and forth and we just barely hung on to win the perfect drift Johnson but takes so I wanna ask you about going to the Breeders Cup with those two horses and everyone likes to win when these big races but both those two horses rain sec. What did you make from them? How proud of you were them of the performances that they gave you out running not winning still doing very well and coming up second in those two races that Breeders Cup turf classic respectively. Actually those are the two I two. It's true I've never expect in my lifetime less funding in that one day. One Days I did I did now. I stretch it might match money in a year or it's access and Arrow spent ten days in walk lurks rise second. I mean it was great looking back on it. I put the money side. It didn't really matter of Walker away from what you second so I I so badly wanted to win the Breeders Cup race in to put you put you in a different level at that time. I never imagined that ever get another Breeders Cup horse it and never thought we'd ever get another chance this well chance slipped away. He can't go back and watch race. Allow inquiry better talk. Now interfere with kids joy. I still believe that we should have been caught. Up Sorrowfully go wash the race start. About what would make that was probably go to fill ever put together going to bring his class. What Horse. I WanNa Tell. You can't believe anyway that goes after one of my favorites can go after the boys are in the race and he listened and I I was with the town. We can beat your source. We can beat him jolly last time so go out there who just sit right off. I want you because enough. Where here's your aggravating? And maybe he'll get aggressive and where we got aggravated with so much. Four polity just ran off. The Lou ran a big second tonight when I felt I was so safer. Like enjoy should have been a breeders cup champion staying on with roses in May for a little bit going out to do by with him and winning two World Cup within their. What was that Dat like? That moment was a special situation. Stressful might again all halfway around the world with the Racehorse of order. Loans indicated five or to permit station. World got camera on me and shake Mohammad's in my team's probably not twenty yards away in their enclosure. I stopped a way to the world to take truth when they loaded engaging and you know here he was a tough horse and he always had little issues and things that he was in L. as wasn't kitten's joy sir and I need the money found words on foot to town. We had a bunch of horses that had gone sick and needed some money. Av never let me down at the end of the day handed up running the monster. Reysen wild horses is a far between that they can go fast and they just don't get tire and so we decided to take the race to similarly didn't care how fast he's gone worker. Try to slow it down and make it a sprint for home. Make them work to keep up with him and I was hoping it his stamina would keep up the rest of the wall if you watch your replacing Choctaw nations rolling up on like he Michael Bassett but by going fast early pulled everybody else out of the race and he got like the door on those mason them stuff winner exciting things that could ever happen in a person's life. It's just whenever you need in order needed. Everything to come together came together. Now you talked about after kitten's joy and roses in May in the Breeders Cup that you didn't think you're ever going to get back there. Two thousand nine. You took a filly by the name of TOPIX fly to Santa Anita. What were your thoughts going into the Breeders Cup? And what was that like when she did? Come away without man because it you know those sorts of things along the way that everybody's in this game wants to have a you know a classic land and one of the three triple crown races that everybody wants to Kentucky Derby courts including being and you want to bring us up on your resume. It just seemed like it was a a box checked off and it was done for such a big supporter amount to my whole life. Flank Jones older and it was important for him for me to win for him. He's been my father spot. While time applaud the best way to gave me argued. This was a home bird. Every mother aren't too demanding those episodes I and it was just a great day to day. We've were GONNA win a couple more after that now. In Two thousand ten you had a horse by the name of Patio Pronto. Who Ran third in the Kentucky Derby but following the triple crown. You went on a run with him on the grass. What kind of talent did Patio Prouteau have in? What was it like to have him? Are they capable of? He was an underrated horse or my periods and maybe even by me shackled for was born in San when he came along and Looking back on it though he was just such a talented is a cool or a big pretty gray and he just did a lot of things right but he was also run around like he would he would almost holler at all. Talk to 'em around track. We came on usually. That's a horse is getting aggressive or me and I just know it was just him being playful and he was he goes a thrill and a derby in anyone on the mets great chart career after that and he was a part of my it. They want to say overhead. Dixie written on the same day now going to the Kentucky Derby and running well with horse like patio product. What is that like to just the atmosphere being? They're having a horse in the Kentucky Derby well the truth. It's it's an amazing experience to have a horse in the Derby and it starts two weeks ahead of time with the hype and people in the press and it's one thing we're first time you're not expected to be there. It gets a little different overtime and I mean everybody doesn't matter long shot in the race the press puts you on a pedestal. Higher by wants a piece. I've got a little bit of picking and in the Dwyer I'm on Sunday but to face third twice fourth one talked to Gaza run second. You just walked back on your head down with your horse race. This is not good enough to win it and everybody runs to the one. You just kind of left out there right now. You mentioned a minute ago. Shackelford that two thousand eleven triple crown. What was it like to go on the run with him that you had another special and I was left around. He was just such a good horse and that pregnant was just unbelievable. Grandma's good France and and for the Winter Derby immediate win the preakness and have a little rivalry battle more. It was so much fun and the sackler. This is one of a kind. He was another big personality at At debris that they got sweating rear enough kicking watched map later on here all the press on. Tv's saying there's no way for him to win. We thought like that. That's just the way he was very went out and he kicked ass and then you go back and watch the molly ran. It's probably the greatest race anymore. Some minor rain starting three in one or something in him and Kayla posses. It goes just whisk as far as like Tiger Woods making a twenty foot. Putt to win a tournament. It was like will themselves across the bar? Furry and those great athlete Michael Jordan last second shot tire biking those law. Wilda himself over great athlete to win next. Actually a question that I was going to get into with Shackelford. You mentioned the media talking about during the race and while he was loading all the the issues that they described it using that as a trainer where you can start it all with humor knowing the horse knowing that so far around him. I was concerned with that connectivity but then I thought about horses you just don't want change if he'd have been quiet at that point our victim. Sir Because I want him in as far as the swearing and stuff for horses swine locked out. He was easily made hot. It wasn't nervous what I made that statement after the the race to some press outlets and I got a call from the Durance ben ignorant for the United States interest me and he said I was dead right about. They've tested sweat compared to just graduating sweat and that it is different. You don't you lose the same electrolyte stuff and we had a great conversation about about more sweat so sticking in the year. Two thousand eleven. You had to the Breeders Cup with a Horse that you've had for a few years at that point court vision and that that was the Breeders Cup that was headlined by Gold Cova. Who was trying to win a fourth consecutive Breeders Cup Mile and there was a lot of a lot of ood moving parts in that race. A lot of horses got bumped around Turning for Home Your Horse Court Vision. Did you think you had a chance to get up there and get a win in the Breeders Cup when he started moving so well? I didn't think we had a chance and I loved him and I thought we would win. And he's secular third-biggest prices. This data have ever WanNa Breeders Cup race but actually it only had him for a couple races they got him up at Saratoga August and it had some issues. Sister Psychedelic horse started getting better and better and Robbie upright on my good friend. Who wrote even the racist at readiness whole life? He came at work named award before the brakes company came back and he told me he's never move this good. He's never worked so strong. I got thinking you know. He's not if he always that was loaded race not just go never talk horses but everyone had their formed in the past and it looks like they might be tip in the wrong way of it and if he just jumps up and runs his best race ever at one time and they are. Tippin just a little bit. He can get the job done and everything. I didn't think we wanted to. We hit the Wire Julia. Lay Peru stood up and celebrated his horse and I thought we were second in my son. Kept telling me walking down that He was young and it kept saying you want you want your up when it got down there and put the numbers up. Emily knows it can't imagine the statement. I was actually going to get into that NASCAR when there's a very tight photo-finish like that. How hard is it to tell from from your perspective that whether or not you got the or not these days I mean? You don't see a real wire in the lower cargo. Really judge just as the wire. Is You know it can be very extremely stressful. Standing there waiting for the numbers to be put up and has gone both ways for me. I mean I've had lows of Bacon. I wanted to get an hour. Second are thinking seconds away wanted. This is a little young to remember getting sportscenter back. What sportscenter back. Where it was on the network. Tv The thrill of victory in agony into this game. You get it two times a week and that day core vision. We'd happened to be on victory. Set now moving into moving into the next year. You had a very interesting. Her on throughout the year with Dolla. Han to the in going into the Kentucky Derby going through that triple crown the Pacific classic afterwards and then running him on grass toward the end of the year. What what was that? Like to have a horse like that. That could be able to go from basically three different surfaces from dirt turf in an hour different Dirk churches and they watch couldn't figure out what had to get created. Here's statistically racing of it will never be it's it's one of those amazing sits me. He won three races in his life. All three grade once broken made and a great one and all three on synthetic surface. There's not many horses have a career like that. He was a talented voice. You know his half-brother Derby winner. Mind that I and he was just a super down to the horse and a lot of fun but say he couldn't quite take that same synthetic off wasn't enough synthetic grace so a challenge to try to find the right spots for also in two thousand twelve. You went off and got a couple of grade one races with Little Mike. I winning winning Arlington million with him. What was that like to win? One of the most historic turf is in this country. That's one of my favorite racist box checking. It was the first million dollar race. America can never so much of so. Many of those aren't races John Henry into parts the greatest example tours horses fractions of an inch apart from one another John Voyage. There's something I always wanted to do. A Little Mike was such a cool. Horse is no pedigree out of America got given to about five hundred dollars. Sar wasn't pretty to look at. It was Kinda stand in peril little crooked. Legged boy on racetracks was a machine and he was a mile or at the time nobody article quarter and so I wanted to go to million. I thought we could. Easily Europeans were the favorites. They're not GONNA be able. They don't ever have speed. Let us roll a little bit and we When my shocked World Ramon Dominguez went up there writing and he wrote absolutely perfect race. One of my favorite all time. We got the money and then going into the Breeders Cup with him to face. Some horses notably the Breeders Cup winner from the past year. Saint Nicholas Abby. How confident were you in him? Going into that Breeders Cup. Well I'll tell you that that's an interesting story to you didn't start. Here's the thing we actor the mount a quarter with. That's one thing now we're going to have to go to shorten up and running a flat out going to stretching all the way out to the half with the whole different ballgame with good. Europeans in there with Tom. She'll favorite food source somehow playoff. We now essentially hotel even have their training plan. Running into power kept looking at it and why? It's Dan was so good at the time. I just don't think we can beat wise. Dan and a mom. We talked it over the owner in decided. Well let's go ahead and run into MILE HALF. Just go the lead dog. Denver Foreign Steel rates only enter handicap the race. It doesn't look by week Providence. We do we can't win race. We're GONNA to fast to get in front of him. And Joe Probably was one of them for type of the hit and he had ridden low mike almost all his life brand new or would think that if he got his hand early they could get ahead so in the closure before we leg up and talking to remote about what to do is listen to those who are going to go third Virginia on. Just sit there and wait for them. They don't expect some Roger Ass off from there and it was absolutely the best rat anybody's ever put on a horse. History of the game worked his magic. He said third and when it stopped in front our he inherited the lead. He just roll all the way down. Elaine get up fast forwarding. A couple of years. This is one of the topics are a lot of people that I talked to before this. We're GONNA get very interested in the hold year. Two Thousand Fifteen that you had with key. Nice going to the Kentucky Derby and losing to American Farrow and running third in the Belmont running second in the Haskell. Did you take the hassle for a second? What did you take out of the hassle from Keanae and how he was able to perform against American Pharaoh? America Pearl made a lot of money. Run second third because there were he went up to I. I was a big Fan of American feral house. There had the farm would miss and the whole team the first time he ever worked on a racetrack. First Time ever freeze and it just looks like a boy. Spent those huge fan of fair born into it. But we're making money into closing the cap on a pin in Haskell. We came run into now. He was gearing down the last part of it. We out fasting. He didn't grant the with us. So we're going into the travers in hours worked really good. Mike Lousy came over or to US coming up injury. He came back because it works so good. And then I think fair's fair was willpower. It worked target run heart and he didn't quite look up too far. Maybe he did in the Derby. Chip growl is just playing horse. It were done everything it has to do so that one day we were better than him. It was a that was that was another major thrill my life and the good story too. I was there by myself. Everybody daughter off doing their day in the life was home it Kentucky Doors. Nobody was going to be there. Well the first one was my daughter's size. She made some radio. She got out of what you call coming over for Racer Sarah well now my son. 'cause I'm driving up and also have the night before amid a function students speaking engagement for a charity up there and I look down stages tammy walks thereby surprised Herschel. Four showed up. It's almost like fake and in for him to win the race along the border circle picture one of the greatest things about that. It's I walked back with the Horse. I almost got your date. I didn't go to children's presentation. Look press conference and one of my background to the park. I didn't want to leave him. He's made me so proud but walk up bar and one of my childhood heroes where the greatest trainers his through the game. Leroy Jolly stand that weight number just hogging graduations grew up at horse racing thoroughbred race ore strain. It can't get any better than that lately. Roy Jolly just asking a little bit not to focus on the race too much but the actual race itself when you were when you were turning for home. American Farrow and frost had gone to each other for basically the entire race did. Did you see the way he had gone? Prior to turning for home and you already mentioned a little bit tired shipped cross country. Did you think that you had a good chance to get him? In the stretch we could talk all day about that race or so many things to do onces about it took place but I never cheerful Charlie but walking over there were so many people are there was a canopy of almost people over the past where we walked through with cameras on Ladders Pizza shoulders. You couldn't move in the place so aptly saddle. We went to the race. I never watched. Ra's always watch a flat but this case as we can't get out. I was just going here watch TV. I never cared for horses much. I'm pretty laid back with that one when I see what game with every stride. I started hollering for myself. The kids are our enemies. Hollered and of course Damian. O'flynn by knows racing knows who she is for. Put six eighty nine pounds. She's just she jumps up to run away from the race now too so talk and I made it always circle. I realized I was too fat now shape to do that. Can Blow into Lord was. What was it like for running against the whole year? How much respected you gain for. American Pharaoh why respect for me day worked as I worked for rant. That'll be rand. I times only talent but as I I'm twenty years up at a hundred dollars hours got beat. You're terrible but I always had respect for and as a good conversation. I shouldn't tell all this conversation but one of the personal call it took after the race because of the bargain was for Bob Baffert and Bob just called to congratulate me and you're talking about not running horse again. I said you're crazy. Probably got too much of the previous cup. You with two months like bell check with two weeks prepare patriots. You'RE GONNA have a time wars. But it was a great conversation is shows the Camaraderie. The paternity of being a trainer has for a guy like Bob. Take time to call me after he got the moving onto another one of your courses unfortunately kind of an abbreviated career but for the very little time that he was on the race. What kind of a horse was not this? Time is a two year old. And what did you expect your earlier goal standard until not town came around me? He's the only horse until now at this moment tracking though you're getting there. He was a good horses. I've ever trained. He's the only one in the kids. Joy Rankings at that time now here a little issue with an ankle in after the preschool retiring but he a superstar in his foes with like superstars and I really believe he's got a chance of being the next door kindness game he he with special special but in my career. I've been so lucky to be around. Greg's anybody who can work to work every day and be around greatness. They're very fortunate that I know. Fortunately data now you did. Mention houses moment You got a couple of other active forces that I wanted to ask you about. I want I want want to ask you about his promises fulfilled. What is he been like to train? And some of the stuff that you've seen from him Multiple integrated stakes winner. Great one winter easterner superstar a thirty two thousand dollars early. I probably would not have gone to look at him except factories by Shackelford and always wanted to live in the polls offspring of SARS I f but went with. I just loved him. I saw horses. Lakeville opportunity grows up. He's GonNa feel like his dad and he did grow up and he wasn't well like his father but he have the same attitude a lot. More laid back and easy to train will live in difficult but Promises that just did everything right? And we're fortunate. We got a good stallion deal down with West are far. He's going to be standing there but he's going to run this year. He had a chip taken out an ankle at the end of last year. He's recuperating now star is just stopped his owner today and he'll be down in about a month and start prepare to get ready for the two thousand twenty season and talk about Denis's moment a couple of minutes ago he him being a very perspective horse for the Kentucky Derby. What do you see out of him going forward? And what has impressed you about him to this point. He's so smart it. It's the most unlucky horse moral. He has no chance And as I race he got knocked down almost fell on the ground. Rider falls off of breaks his arm. He's lucky didn't fall head over heels he gets up front down a horse of fifty eight caps out two the outriders and he just hustle getting hurt then he comes back else park by nineteen that gave me chills. I knew how good he was more. Not Eight better names but going out of the wash that down if I was at chills then he He goes to church only does what he's supposed to do in the racer bigger point but then a samba alligators debris. You're scuff issue. That was that was gut wrenching. That's that's one you don't get back you don't get a second chance of that but we're getting. We're lucky you didn't get hurt. We'll game a little fresher and He's training great right now. Here Gulfstream. He's working on Saturday and hopefully show every Friday still. Rc was. What would it mean for you to win the Kentucky Derby? You've grown up. In Louisville a Louisville trainer has never won the Kentucky Derby car. Would that mean it would be? It would be amazing. It really would be sensitive. I don't know I don't know everybody. In this game start up right there. In the shadow churchill downs twin spires have missed so agreeable to watch. I don't know I can't imagine what it would be like. I think sometimes when I can imagine what it'd be like not getting enough but I don't know I'm GonNa say I don't know I just hope to find out something all right well. Good luck going. Forty two thousand twenty season the last question I have for you and I'm not gonNA screw this up this time. I asked to this job Bravo and then I asked him something else before the end of it we ask all our guests since question if you could go back in time and witnessed any moment in the history of horse racing ever it could be one of your winds or it could be. It could be anything. Watching secretary in the Belmont stakes. Anything like that. If there was one moment you could go back in time and witness in person vert. Would that be very very good question? Obviously you're standing there to Belmont and watching watching. What Secretariat did that? That's probably the obvious. It's there's other things I've just seen horses citation. I would like seahorses like panel or like to benefit the big cap when swin seabiscuit wants here. There's a lot of things but but just imagine secretariats race. We all see my generation. Here's we all sit replayed knowing what happened with the see what he's doing and and really never seen a horse dominate like that they can. There's no way he could keep going had to be exciting. Emma Bennett Belmont two rounds with Bob Stu. Horses and electricity is amazing. Just feel the energy as I ever by joint. They wanted celebration. I celebrated really be me but to be there for secretary. I think would have to be the obvious obvious. Answer all right. Well thank you for. Thank you for this. Dale appreciate you on the show next week. Our next guest is going to be or we're GONNA have Kenny mcpeek on the show so we got a lot of Belmont winner vet a lot of Belmont winners on this show following Kenny. We're going to complete the second part of the two thousand eleven triple crown and We have Kelly Breen who on the Belmont stakes with ruler on ice. And some of the stuff that we've talked about so again. Best of luck going forward into the twenty twenty and we'll be root for you dale.

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To Loot, or Not to Loot? (feat. David Bradley Isenberg)

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To Loot, or Not to Loot? (feat. David Bradley Isenberg)

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I really think I should stop drinking. Period completely I'm not I. Don't think I don't have a drinking problem. I don't drink every night i. don't sit at home with candlelight drink and some bourbon like friends of mine do frankly but I just I. Don't know I've ever since March whenever when the gyms went dark enclosed for this corona virus there yet to reopen. I I. Don't know I just feel gross I was. This this is what happened today. Perhaps this will sound familiar. You can perhaps relate I'm talking to you. I had yet another zoom call and I'm Kinda to the point where every time I have to do these God damn zoom. Meetings these Goddamn Zoom one on one conference called well I mean. It can be a one on one and can be a group meeting I. DON'T CARE I'm tired of them, and it's like I fucking hit the link. ding-dong in ice it. They're in for just those few minutes. No. Excuse me those few seconds while my camera is off. And I just think of I. be diverted this. And then I hit. 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Yes, you can always tweet at us. We are at. What we are at next radio that is. Next best radio. And, of course you can tweet at me I'm at Johnnie, Learner. That's J. O. N., no H. B. as in boy, L. E. R., N. E. R. Folks. We have a great show particular. Free Tonight David Bradley Eisenberg. Friend of the show will be calling in shortly before he does. Though let's talk a little bit about what's been going on in the news. What's been going on in this miserable world? Your listening to the next best thing. Here's what's making news tonight. Okay so police kill Ratio Brooks in Atlanta Yeah. Let's talk about this for a minute. Last Friday night Atlanta. Police shot and Killed Twenty old ray Chard Brooks outside of a Wendy's parking lot in Atlanta where he had fallen asleep at the wheel. While in the drive through. That's not a great look. That's not a great thing to do, but it's not something one should die over. That's for sure now. Here's more. There is more to the story. The police were called, and they moved to handcuff him for suspected driving under the influence, at which point brooks grabbed an officers teaser and started to flee. We can see in video. Surveillance that brooks didn't eat fire the tasers at the officers as he ran away now at that point, one of the officers shot Brooks two or three times in the back. The shot at least one of them was fatal, and he eventually died. Now it may seem vulgar and stir up some anger and people but I do think it's appropriate and acceptable simply to point out something undeniable, and that is that Brooks did the wrong thing here the we can all agree on that. This is not how one should responder how one should act or what one should do. When dealing with law enforcement in any capacity, my feelings and I, I think that's pretty safe to say. I don't think that's controversial, but hey. You never know you shouldn't grab an officer's. You should not fire the Taser at an officer, and frankly you shouldn't flee. Not Smart things to do that, said. I see no reason why the kind of force that was used. was necessary. To Stop someone who was after all running away, he was running away. He wasn't running towards you. He wasn't charging you. He was running away his car. You had his car. You had his license plate. You had identified him ready. You knew who he was. There was no reason to shoot him. There was no reason to shoot him especially when he was shot like I, said he grab the officer's Taser he did. Try and tell them I can see why they would feel threatened by that, but even then, and here's the thing and I've said this before, but I think this is a perfect example, so I'm GonNa. Say it again. I don't think you know I. It's no secret that I think gun violence is. A scourge on America. I think it is the most heartbreaking and outrageous problem. There is I think it I think people are so ignorant about it there so uneducated about it, but this is why I don't even think cop should have guns back when I was a wee lad. Like five years ago, I used to be of the mind that only cops really should have guns. Now! Ohno. Ono! COPS should not even have guns. You know there are so many other things there. Tasers tranquilizers there other things we can use. This guy did not need to dot. And he wouldn't have died if he had been shot with something other than an actual gun. Now as a result of this ordeal in Atlanta. Couple things have happened. The police chief has resigned. The officer who shot Brooks has been fired and protesters. who were all ready? Riled up already calling for police reform well, they raised the heat level. It was all taken up a notch. The Wendy's where this all went down. was used as a meeting point for protesters in Atlanta, and eventually they torched. It burned it to the ground. Now I've. I This is really unfortunate because. I sat here. I've sat here in weeks passed and I still believe that when you hear about looting and riots and violence that almost. I would say ninety percent, if not more of that kind of crap. Is being done by people who really have little to nothing to do with the movement with the protests with the message. They are separate. They are kind of using the protest using the movement as cover to do their dastardly deeds. This on the other hand were protesters they burned. This Wendy's to the ground now. I know that there are certain people who are very passionate about what's going on right now as they should be, and I respect that and I've heard people sometimes when a person like I don't know me. Mentions how I. Don't think bring. This Wendy's down. Did anything good was did any. was there any point to it? They angry. They say look. This is the only way these people's voices can be heard. It's a small price to pay Wendy's. We'll be fine. It's a corporate entity, so they had to lose one franchise big deal, and it's easy to say that, but you feel the same way. If it had been at your job that you just lost at Wendy's. Would you feel that way if you were the franchise owner of that Wendy's? Would you feel if it was your car? That was blown up it. Would you feel that way if it was your house that was damaged? It's easy to be magnanimous and say stuff like that when it's not your stuff, not your life being harmed. And what the fuck did Wendy's have to do with this whole ordeal? Absolutely nothing. It just happened to be where it took place, but Wendy's didn't participate. Good God. So I do think. I do think there's something to be said about that. Yes I certainly do. All Right? You're listening to the next posting on Radio Free Brooklyn. We're GONNA take a very short break. And then we'll come back and welcome our guest. David Bradley Eisenberg coups joining us over the telephone. All right, we'll be back. 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The joins US this way before but David, Bethel, Eisenberg, comedian writer, all around good guy, a native of Kansas City in fact David. Are you calling from the UK? I'm not calling you. Okay! Okay well. I didn't realize, but it says on your facebook that you now live in the UK. No it doesn't go. Oh, that was A. Huge. You got me. Are you still living. Good. Have you been handling this lockdown? Oh accepting strangers. And that's good. I hear that good for the virus you now. It's a double negative issue. Kids people on shake their hand. Are you still in Brooklyn? I Moved surely Ah a big sky. Scoring Denver Account special lady friend and we've been holding down the Fort Okay how you doing. Well I'm okay I've been very lucky. I've been able to work from home I actually got the job that I'm doing right now on like the very end of February so literally so I've been to the office for like the interviews, but by my first day was March eighteen, so I've never actually been to work. That makes it very hard when it comes to you know bonding with the new coworkers. But no I feel very lucky in that regard to have a job at all, right? How about you? I've been fortunate to. My job moved to stay at home So we have been working remote as well. We actually went through unionizing campaign And, so that was something that we weren't going through. Like had a big. unionizing push and management fought back, and it was like all remote, which was very odd. And like all the of the Union. Organizers working with US had. No experience doing you know like a zoom. You know. Like all all this stuff that they usually do. Not doing a digital as it was very very strange, so that's kind of been the biggest thing for me from a work perspective. It's been really. Odd I guess, have you been? Have you attended any of the demonstrations or protests around in the area? How just that one for Black Trans live on Sunday which was. Beautiful turnout. Mike unbelievable that one we'll turn out. And they took photos like drone photos, and his just as sea of people right right, believe it. Yeah, everyone was wearing white I did not get the memo about wearing white so but. I felt it was very. Very good, and have you been going to protest? And I don't know I was going to ask you. What your experiencing there like. It looked very peaceful. It looked very was a peaceful. was there any unrest? Subdued. Like Sunday Church of protests now yeah, and you see that everyone was wearing a mask I mean. They were like I did not remove personal without a mask. Good Like literally no one you know I I I saw it was straight and the whole. Different from black lives matter protests that have been going to over the years I mean. The other going to these black lives matter protests in twelve to thirteen I mean like and the cops have been every single one of them and this time with his one was like this huge mark. Pretty much I'm like a mile like that and I thought five cops part-time. Do It was? A very different. Experience from black other black lives matters protests that I've been to. But I was very very Grateful to see just how many masks and are people just handing out masks for free people handing off hand sanitizer create That was really really encouraging, and it was very. Very beautiful! Are you worried that are the few I went to the one stands out. Is that McCarron Park and it was? This was like right. I mean this is a week or so ago and this was when we were really hearing about kind of most of them, just getting out of control and leading to a lot of unruly stuff in this one, it was like it was the most crowded on. I've ever seen McCarron Park. And yet the most peaceful and serene downright serene. It was beautiful I mean it was. It was nothing like what we'd been hearing about right? which doesn't. It doesn't mean there haven't been ones getting out of hand, but like you know I think that. Yeah. You have feelings about the ones getting out of hand. Well, I think well. Yeah, I mean like it's hard because when I talked earlier about the Atlanta. Shooting and the killing of that young man and Wendy's. And like and because I had been talking about how most up until the protesters met at that, Wendy's and ended up burning it to the ground. In, that was the first time I've really kind of seen an example of protesters causing any direct. Damage most of the time I I totally separate the looters and rioters from the movement. Because most of the time, they're people using it as a cover. Don't you think yeah? No I, don't you think they're the? They're actually protesters just kind of going crazy looting. Yeah I do and is a good way. I support the leading you know. We have forty plus million people. In this country right now we have horrible amounts of economic and racial inequality. there is look I don't know about you. I've been going to black lives matter protests and twenty thirteen. nothing is changed. There's been all these. Attempts at reform. You Know Minneapolis it. The th- There's that eight can't wait reform. Minneapolis had implemented seven eighths of the eight can't wait. George for still murdering blood. You know I mean at a certain point. What do you expect like? What what? What do you think is GonNa Happen I'm not condoning anything. But what did you expect when they're just? Millions of people suffering in so much anguish and so much destitution and Fearing for their lives by the people that are hired to protect it serve them I mean I- I wholeheartedly support someone. Breaking into a starbucks and. For someone breaking into a you've Vitton or whatever I mean, there are things that are like if you're poor and Europe black and you've been seeing all the entire. Course State of America stacked up and incentivize to put you in prison. I absolutely support you fighting back and you'd have to be sucker to realize that this isn't making change. You know if you are not threatening with violence. If you are not then then you're writing letters to your congressman that they can ignore you have to have. stake in your speech. I mean the fact that people are looting starbuck, a multi-national corporation owned by. Howard Schultz. I mean the fact that people are doing that is. Non Violent to me. To what people should be or could be doing considering the circumstances, which is the thing I mean interesting, because I'm basically agree with everything that you're saying i. just don't see like when we talk because you're talking about you know the fact that these are people rising up in fighting back which I'm all for and I think when it comes to taking to the streets and demonstrating. I'm all for it. But when you talk about like burning down the Wendy's or lewd like wreaking havoc on a starbucks, typically people who work at a Wendy's or starbucks, they aren't raking it in and those are jobs. They're losing. Right, we'll should be want if they're not making it at those jobs suck. Suck those jobs and that's all they have worked at Wendy's. Wendy's and is like I will fight. To protect it as Wendy's. New about protecting the windies. It's a they have a job and. Don't the career they want it to be, but you know they can be a part time job. Any any person who you worked at restaurants before I've worked in restaurants before restaurants that are nice right like even still i. don't like working there. But even still don't like working there, right? Deal jock. But sometimes you have the only job. Look my first job was Jonathan. My first job was. At the applebees I would happily. have let that place burned to the ground. I mean and look I look at the fifteen year old. My parents I'm a white kid in the suburb. Yes, privileged privileged privilege. You can say all you want, but that doesn't take away from the fact that like there's no future to these job. Thin air that is like this is a handout that that is a paltry in meaningless as it is. The even for poor people. For working at a Wendy's this. This is just a thing that helps you. Make Rent, right. That's important. Or pay or pay for childcare. Look no, but you're GONNA force. The for you are missing the forest through the trees real people. million. People. Incentives working against them. You know we'll maybe, but my my point is. I'm not fighting I'm not. I'm standing up for starbucks and Wendy's. I'm standing up for you. Know the part time manager there. WHO's only doing it because she's putting herself through night, school, or whatever you know, it's easy for us to say those are shitty jobs, and you should get a better one, but we know. What employment is that a sky hiring? I'm not saying people should get a better job at all. That's that's that's not what I'm saying. Those jobs should be lost if they're not making it at those jobs suck. Suck those jobs. I'm saying that there needs to be some people start thinking. In, terms of systems. And people need to start thinking in terms of what role they can play in pending systems, and if it takes burning down a franchise of a multi-billion dollar chain that is owned by a billionaire to get the city of Minneapolis to disband its police department, which just pledged to do I mean? Any rational person would see that as absolutely or if you sacrifice. I think we're kind of yeah because I mean I'm not saying by any means well look, they may have performed the police, but there's a starbucks. That's really hurting. That's not the point I mean also. It's a little different because like wh when we talked about starbucks and Howard Schultz. He's going to be just fine like I'm not talking about him at all so I. Don't know I i. kind of feel like you I'm talking about literally the individuals who may who might work at a starbucks or work at a Wendy's or Burger King, or whatever, and that's different than the overall entity of starbucks you know the corporation is one thing. The individuals who work there are quite another. Also we know because we started this conversation talking about you know the goal is ending police brutality, and then now we're in kind of starting to talk about corporatism and the Eagles of corporatism. It's Kinda like just one I. Don't know when we talk about like. Looting and stuff that seems kind of I. Don't know I guess I. Just don't really see how they connect to each other. You know you talking about ending police brutality, and the evils of corporatism and looting and looting is good I. Just don't get it. How is how is destroying property? And you know ending jobs like it or not? They are jobs. How is that going to in police brutality? You know I. think that like austerity. Very violence. You know if you cut entitlements. To Education. To things that are considered writes. In wealthy neighborhoods, but are considered privileges in poor neighborhoods. then there will be. Destroy Communities, and we've been in rostered regime. Her forty years basically I mean he's getting through a breaking point. where you know, it is an injury. In authority regime making cuts to all these social programs are hickory economic development in the. Place for people to live, and for people to have access to medical care, mental health. Fair job turning, you know. So i. think that that's. I. Do think they're related actually. More in line with the Malcolm X., method or the Martin Luther King method which which year Martin Luther King Rarely Martin Luther King or late Martin Luther came well. We know he promoted nonviolence in that form of activism, but he did. He understood he gave speeches about understanding where riots come from. They don't form out of thin air. They aren't just a response to nothing. Right I mean I. Guess to answer the question. My always taught the Malcolm versus Martin Dichotomy that it's a false one. It's you cannot get. Martin without the threat of Malcolm. Right. Well no I mean it was yeah I mean Martin. Luther King did not start his life in activism in response to Malcolm X. I mean there could not have seen. A peaceful civil rights movement without. Certain segments of the population, very much afraid of the rise of of Malcolm X.. And more militant black power movement. Interesting firmly that it was, it was the. Combined effort could. It's interesting because when you say the when you talk about a threat and kind of like who is viewed as more. Who they're afraid of you know with J.. Edgar Hoover, and what we know now looking back that they really zeroed in on Martin. They want they tried. They tried diligently to get him to kill himself. Right Cardigan undertone, so they try to yeah and. They tried to blackmail in and Well documents and evidence of of the expansion of the right wing reactionary. Politics. I mean they did see him as a threat, even though he promoted nonviolence well Y-. Yeah, I mean I, don't really. I just kind of Malcolm X. kind of blackmail proof from like. I'm sure they hire. They're trying to get in I. Don't think he was as powerful. As he was didn't have. Not Has. Not Have the vocal box. Voice box. Thank you. Idioms I don't he you know I'm sure he wasn't as famous as okay, but there had to be a certain degree of. look if you don't choose Morton and you're going to get Malcolm. and I I mean I could be wrong night. Look neither of US live in that era right, but I have been I've been listening to some of Martin speeches, and it's kind of insane. How like like there are certain parts of Martin speeches that sounds by. He's literally talking about what's going on now. said. And I will always continue to say. That riots all socially destructive and self defeating. I'm still convinced that non violence. Is the most potent weapon available to oppress people in their struggle for freedom and justice. I feel that violence will own the create more social problems, and they will saw, but at the same time. It is as necessary for me. To be as vigorous in condemning the conditions. which calls persons to feel that they must get engage in riders activities as it is for me to condemn riots. I think America must see. That riots do not develop out of fan now. Certain conditions continue to exist in our society. which must be condemned as vigorously as we condemn Ryan's? So last time you were in the primary was really often running. I do remember you know you've always been a Bernie supporter. You weren't too keen on Joe Biden at the time how you feel now. Are you feeling pissed? I'm more focused on. You know direct action up right now, you know I, I'm not really thinking about it. Honestly, it hasn't really. Come up too much obviously I'm not gonNA vote for trump. You know I'm not gonNA but I'm just Kinda like waiting to see actually through by the campaign has kicked off why? then. You know I'll be listening to see what this unity condition that he's kind of trying to do with. Bernie people and his people seeing what sort of proposals they come out with, and you know it just feel very foreign. I feel very alienated from progressive. Politics right now just because. It took such a turn from what you were hoping. I guess so, but yeah I mean I. Guess That's kind of a easiest way to put it, but. I I think that he's past couple of months just reminded me that like not all politics, the presidential primary, and not all politics is the presidential election. You know I mean there or Politicians respond to incentives and. The most important thing is that you. Keep them afraid of losing their jobs, and I think that that's kind of the most important thing and. If Biden wins I hope he does do I also recognize that? My vote doesn't matter New York. Registered here. I am registered New, York and my vote doesn't really matter to New York style. You know but I do hope that Joe Biden wins. because. You went to school in Minnesota Right. And? We're both from Kansas, so I assume at one point. You were probably registered Minnesota. You feel differently, or would you feel like? Maybe there was more added importance if you were still registered in Minnesota. I. Think if I were in. MINNESOTA a different calculus about voting I think that I would probably you know look. This is the thing I have a feeling that Joe Biden. Isn't really appealing to Bernie People I don't think that that's his target Demo I. Think is target them. is never trump Republicans and disciplined disaffected trump Roeder's. What the Fuck I just think that he's really like. Appealing to me and I. Don't think you really. The I I just don't to get attention from his campaign that he needs my vote. I think he makes. I'm sure he kid everyone like I'm not heard that he is particularly I'm not primary demo I. Understand that share, but let me ask you this because I think it's important, do you? I think he is making a concerted effort with the unity commission with the kind of appearance as he's doing with Bernie and he's doing as much as he can. And this point when Covid is kind of keeping people from actual campaigning. Do you recognize that he's making an effort at least more so than Hillary? I don't know about that. I mean I think in some ways. Hillary was more progressive than he was well no I. Don't mean I don't mean an effort to be progressive I mean effort to at least affront front as solidarity with Bernie. Right I think that he I think Biden is has a better retail politics of being able to reach out to the left. I think that's a parent by his. Relationship with Bernie You Know I. Do I mean I I personally like other companies, or to the left of which by voting record close, but I don't so we both Hillary? whatever? Look I. I don't want to Rehash, Hillary. Yeah. I really really don't I wish him the best I. Endorsed him does not. Look Bernie. Bernie is not a like you know I. I don't worship him. He says I endorse him I automatically. Go for him, I'm. Waiting to see. I can't like I, said right individual votes for so Biden. There's not really matter Only two things that I'm considering. Or went to things that. People will not. Politicians will not appeal to you if you're not correct to not vote for them. That is the only leverage that you have against any politician. Coordinate or you're. Voting. It's a really this the only forum leverage you have and. I don't. That I have with Joe Biden and I'm waiting to see. What he says about those things and. I hope. I hope that they're that. He gives me good reason to vote for him. Well, let me say he because I understand listen. He was not my top choice either by any stretch. Pete Buddha judge. Okay, I know you don't love him either. That's all right. Look Hey that's. Why have you? I like the you know different points of view but. Coming on peers what I would say at this point because I get it I ca I understand people's? You know lackluster. For Joe by getting. Rape allegation against him, you know. It's not. It's it's more just Uh, milk, toast feeling. Not True. Not True you know. Guys see now. I was okay I. Probably, don't even have time to get to that I. was going to say was like people can't get excited about Joe Biden the nominee, and can't you know bear to fake it or whatever I would say think about in upshur. You've heard this before, but think about you know the young people who he might who he will bring into his administration, and the young energize people with new ideas who could be in there, helping make decisions changing things, and just the future leaders who will help get started mentor. And Whatnot, plus all the judges and whatnot, which is very important i. mean that alone is very important. We Know Ruth Bader GINSBURG is. All that I want as well for sure I. Feel like you're saying that kind of biding your lip. Yeah, know, this is the one thing. If! There were a third party candidate who I thought were good food and supported things like Medicare for all. Green new deal. you know universal paid family we have. you know some addressing systemic? Racial Injustice I. You know defunding and abolishing the police things that are just for me at this point, feel like core policy goals if the really third party candidate. Who supported those things and Me voted for them would allow them to get over the five percent national popular vote threshold in order to allow them to get in order to allow that third party to get federal spending. Get Federal they they get some federal money I guess for the next round that would to be a good use of my mind individual coach. Again York on toadying. New York, but you know I. Mean Like Twenty Sixteen for Example Hillary. warned by an increase percentage in New York then Obama Twenty twelve I mean she murdered in the? You know so? I, do think it's reasonable to say that New York State's. fucking hates trump? which is where he's from? Right which knows him the best. It's always best. It's always good when the place that knows you the best like she the league. I mean really. Indicator? I know I know hey, guys. We know him bad. He will lie to you. Donald Color. Nice guy to me. I just don't get it. Dave I. Really don't get it and like I mean. It's because it's I. Don't understand how I mean I was playing this interview. Some of this stuff earlier. He these are recent interviews. He sat down with. Journalists from Fox News and he's saying stuff like this. I think I've done more for the black community than any other president, and let's take a pass on Abraham Lincoln. 'cause he did good, although it's always questionable what? I mean like first of all everything. He just said there is like. Are you sick. I think I've done more than anyone for the black community. This is a guy who was openly supported confederate leaders confederate monuments, and then he sits and kind of throws a caveat. Eight do some good things, but it's questionable. Like. He should be in an asylum. I mean look Ma'am I know nothing new here. I know it's hard I want to I want to be as angry as you are about that you know like. Oh God I wasn't working desensitized to it I. Really do wish it weren't desensitized to like how inane unlike only stupid and how much liar he is. It's almost you know what I mean. because. When you talk about the stuff that you you know you, do get passionate about lake. You know these movements, and what's black lives, matter and stuff. Who is worse for that than him? Well, he passed the first step back. Seriously Which? Would decrease some sentencing laws for federal crimes. and that was thanks to Kim Kardashian actually felt like yeah I mean look I mean trump past. Criminal, a form of criminal justice reform which is. Not Nothing, if not nothing like I, I want to be like Oh. Of course, everyone recognizes that trump is racist and evil and stuff like that but like. People care about what you do when you're in office, people care about what you can get done, and you don't have to have a college degree to care about People's legislative record. You can be normal. You know interested voters. You care about voting for someone for what they'll do for you. And that is across all class race age wines. What are you talking about? Key Pass this law. This is an job. I didn't on the other of the ninety four crime bill and you're Bernie. Sanders voted for it well and that's not. That's not nothing you know. The fact that Joe Biden is the trump got this thing. Criminal Justice Reform, Bill, pats, and Joe Biden. You know how to the. Tough on crime bill we have to now. We're GONNA talk about the crime, but we have to also consider the context. Nineteen ninety-four in twenty, nine, thousand nine are very different in very many ways. Also the crime bill had things in it like the violence against Women Act which. People is hard to kind of WHO. It also. It's not hard to the violence against Women Act. Was Good. Bill Bill Right Right. The next is a good bill, but. Anyway my point is that again. It was obviously imperfect, but find me a bill that was passed. That's really perfect I mean like I. DunNo, you Kinda have to look at the time and the so when we talk about the things we don't like the crime. Civil Rights Act didn't have like. Like like really terrible stuff like yes, there are plenty of laws that have been like landmark pieces of legislation that don't include incarcerated one in every three black men in the country like like. The cried they'll lead to gorgeous prison population in the world, but it was supported by most black leaders at the time. US? We're block. Leadership reported. Black Caucus did at the time. I Lynn Hindsight. We can say this stuff and you know it's imperfect would change this and that and that and this at the time. It wasn't intended to hurt. Look look can be ran to the right of meeting Republicans on. Crime in order to elected at the time Republicans were driving home. Their one of their headline messages was Democrats. Are We gon cry? They're gonNA let everyone lose. All these criminals are going, so it was kind of in response to that now. I, don't not! A good thing, but it's kind of the politics of the moment. Bill Clinton like come on a in Arkansas or only. there. Were some things that are wait a minute actually just between this conversation. It sounds like you. Between Joe. Biden and Donald, trump. You really think he'd be. Trump is better for minorities. I can go trump make a claim, but he can run laugh Joe Biden on crime. David. Donald trump commits crimes any. Let's his friend criminals out of jail. He gets I mean come on. Pumpkin claim that he can run the Joe Biden on trade. He ended the he like right before covert broke out the big news. Here like struck a deal with the Taliban for actually end for war in Afghanistan had to. You'll lift, Kim Jong UN Was it does matter. It shows how much. I, trump is a fascist right. This is like an. Easy. And understandable thing I'm saying that from an optics perspective trump came geic in optics claim, but he can run for the less. Of Biden on those three issues. Now, not a globe. Did you see yourself voting for trump? Never? Become a socialist another fascist. Anti Fascist like anti FA. Analyst than Bernie Sanders. I Dunno about labels I guess. I mean the third point because a democratic socialist. I can put them in a democratic socialist. I don't think that. If there were violent of Aleutian like. Revolution with clues like it would just lose like it's not. It would never be a successful revolution I. I don't unless we really got like wide swath of the military and the police his like. Disobey orders I think that it would result in thousands of hundreds of thousands of people if millions of people being killed. along support right I don't. Push Our Area, but like much greater scale I. Don't believe in violent revolution. election seemed cool. It'd be cool if they worked. It'd be awesome if they do. Sometimes they do. And that's a cool thing. There are forces working against them. Like bucking cheating straight up cheating in certain states. It's really fucked up. And it's so out in the open. It's like they you know. These are obvious things I'm that's what I'm really worried about. Is that like? It's going to be stolen. Right well the is awesome. Good thing goes into our constitution one of them. The federal government. Aka The trump administration has. Basically Euro enforcement power over election. They can sue as a plaintiff in court to challenge election results, which is scary, right but they actually do not count the votes. that is states in the states. Count the votes. Even for federal elections so. we will never have donald trump counting votes You know if you remember with the two thousand election like you know, can't Bush. Jeb Bush with counting the votes. For the presidential elections, and that's an example of it being challenged though. Right, what challenge Supreme Court the Conservative Anthony Kennedy against was. He was yeah Scalia. Kennedy in you know all all the folks I mean. They basically just see with the election to Bush and alcohol was a civility oriented moderate. You know he kind of believe in the dignity. Call the peaceful transition of power. Yeah what actually you just want to. Say. Yeah actually I don't know curious. I mean you must read about a violent transition of power. He was worried about the dignity of the office that was fundamentally the reason why he did not pursue the litigation and the challenge further wait a minute. He took it to the Supreme Court what else could have done. There were. Other claims that hadn't quite made his Supreme Court. and then I think he can see the Supreme Court, said stuff like he dropped his. It was so complicated and I read a book on it, and there was so much litigation, but my my takeaway from what I read. The book was that he could have done more, but he didn't because he wants to preserve the dignity of the office and it's always the Democrats. who have to preserve the dignity of the office? You know and it's like at a certain point. Yeah! Yeah, because you're using dignity as or like it's not actually dignity anymore it's. Will, you can't really care about stuff like that when the other side couldn't care less. Right they'll play dirty. Knife to a gunfight. Right exactly listen. We're going to be cut off in three minutes. You still right from Sweeney's room. I found a podcast and I haven't really been writing for. Since I started the podcast, so plugging podcast called the podcast called ponzi scream naive. So we it's a weekly podcast available wherever podcasts are available It's kind of A. To white collar crime podcast. We? Yeah, so we look at white collar crimes It's me and two other lacquer Indians, and you know we just have a good time, and just then we also talk about Alexa stomach issues. They can also check out your website. Which is David? Bradley, Eisenberg Dot Com, or did you change it? Seems that the great I and also catch him on twitter? It's David Bradley, I E Y E Y. Correct. David Graham Hawaii Yup. Oh right. Oh my God. You're right. Are you stupid David? Bradley I. What did it okay? Anyway? All right well. We're going to get off. So David things so much for calling in I always love having you on and hearing your point of view, and we'll do it again soon, okay? That sounds good. Thanks for having me on John All, right, stay healthy and safe. Last week I had David Bradley Eisenberg on the show. He's someone I've known for a long time. He was a big time. Bernie supporter. He is a financial journalist at this point in his life, and after the rebroadcast on Wednesday. I got a lot of people writing in and tweeting at me, saying that I had kind of really bent over for David and when he made points. That people knew I disagreed with because they had heard me. Say so on the show before that I didn't push back. I didn't chime in and I have to say folks. It's so funny every week when I do this show I always always say you'll free to call in. Feel free to tweet at us. Feel free to us and I encourage people to reach out and get involved I absolutely welcome, feedback and interaction. And I'll be the first to tell you folks. Ninety six point eight percent of the time. I don't hear. Jack Squat from you guys, and that's okay on the rare occasion when I get like a wave of let's say feedback. It's when people apparently get pissed off or just WANNA. Get hypercritical now. I will say this the only reason I gave this. Any credence whatsoever is because when I had been walking home from the show that night. Myself I had in fact kind of. Kicking myself in thinking you know. I wish that we had had more time to really kind of zero. In on certain topics. Now I will say this I hate talking about guests after they've been on the show I hate it. I'm not talking. I'm not going to do that tonight. I got back in touch with David and I. let him know of the situation and I asked him if he would like to come back on the show tonight because I was going to address some of the things that were brought up. He responded he was great. As I knew he would be. He's unable to come in, or he's unable to call in. Buddy has Sinton any. Some information that I will read. and One night, and I have to say folks first of all I think it's pretty ironic that people were writing in to say that they had heard me on this show. Voice certain opinions I obviously haven't. Shied away from voicing them before number one but number two. I didn't shy away from voicing them last week. Remember last week, show folks. Protesters they burned. This Wendy's to the ground now I. Know that there are certain people who are very passionate about what's going on right now as they should be and I respect that. And I've heard people sometimes when a person like me. Mentions how I don't think this Wendy's down. Did anything good? Was it any? was there any point to it? They anger with me. They say look. This is the only way these people's voices can be heard. A small price to pay Wendy's, we'll be fine. It's a corporate entity, so they had to lose one franchise big deal, and it's easy to say that, but was you feel the same way if it had been at your job that you just lost at Wendy's? Would you feel that way if you were the franchise owner of that Wendy's? Would you feel that way if it was your car? That was blown up. Would you feel that way of your house? That was damaged. Easy to be magnanimous and say stuff like that when it's not your stuff, not your life being harmed. And what the fuck did Wendy's have to do, do with this whole ordeal, absolutely nothing. It just happened to be where it took place, but Wendy's didn't participate. Good God. So that was me. That was me last week. Not only did I make my position very crystal clear, but I even addressed what turned out to be David's position. People who thought that I was wrong to say that the looting was bad. That was right. That was minutes before David Join the conversation. He almost certainly heard me say that so. The idea that I didn't make my. My stance known is absolutely hilarious. I. I mean I don't even know what else to say. Now here is David. Giving his opinions, so we were talking about the protests, and how he had been going to some and I gone to some, and I said you know I went the ones that I had been to were beyond piece they had been downright serene and then I say how I didn't like how the violence and the looting and the protests themselves were being inflated. I didn't like it I didn't think they were one in the same and to my surprise, David disagreed. You think they're the they're actually protesters just kind of going crazy looting. Yeah, I, do and a good way I, actually I I took looting. You know we have forty plus million people unemployed in this country right now we have horrible amounts of economic and racial inequality. I've been going to black. Lives matter protests in twenty thirteen. nothing has changed. There's been elise. Attempts at reform in George. Ford was still murdering blood. You know I mean at a certain point. What do you expect like? What what what do you think is going to happen? I'm not condoning anything. But what do you expect when there are? Millions of people. Suffering fearing for their lives by the people that are hired to protect it, serve them I mean. I wholeheartedly support someone. Breaking into starbucks and it for someone's breaking into a Louis, Vuitton or whatever okay, so that's David's position, you know. Perfectly fair point of view couple things. Though again I wanNA point out that I contacted David before tonight show, and I let him know that I would be addressing these things, and I invited him to come back on to talk about them. He wasn't able to, but he gave me his blessing to do this. I would not be doing this otherwise just to be clear. K. So. One thing I do have a little bit of a problem with an I. Do wish that I pointed out at the time. Is that in that clip? You just heard of David. You hear him say. I don't condone anything in what he means. He doesn't Condone Islands. He doesn't Condone Gallery I assume, but he also says I support the looting I support breaking into a starbucks a Louis Vitton I support fighting back in that way. To sounds like he does condone the violence, the looting the illegality, so that's kind of is ingenious. I have to say, but that's. Fine. What my biggest beef and I tried to make this clear as you will ear in just a moment. was there a lot of the things that David was saying? In terms of the actual issue of people being brutalized and mistreated and just absolutely disenfranchised. I agree with all of that. I agree with all of that. And I think they should fight back I. Think they should take to the streets and take action. Where we disagree is the effectiveness of looting. I don't see the effectiveness at all. I I, actually think it's. Counterproductive. Here's a exchange we had about it. And then I'll chime in breaking havoc on a starbucks, typically people who work at a Wendy's or a starbucks. They aren't raking it in and those are jobs that they're losing. Right. Could, what if they're not making it at those jobs? Duck duck those jobs. That's all they have worked at Wendy's. Wendy's is like I will fight death. To protect it as Wendy's. We'll look in me like no. It's not about protecting the windies. It's a they have a job. All right now. Here's what I'll say. So first of all the fact that I'm addressing this I will admit it was sparked by people saying that I didn't push back and didn't make my. Feelings hurt. That's just bullshit I. Don't know what you guys are talking about I. clearly chimed in, and I made my I, my position known I. do wish push back stronger. Here's what I would say. Dave is a smart thoughtful good guy. That's why I have him on the show. I was almost stunned by. The way he was talking about these jobs. These people you know so one of the things he said in his email when I told him that I would be addressing this tonight. He was. He talked about. How when it comes to lives, and all of the thousands of black people who have been mistreated, and in some cases just straight up murdered by police. He believes that a starbucks window. This is a quote quote. A starbucks window cannot breathe and breaking. It is not violence. It is the compromise. If procup politicians keep standing in the way of justice, perhaps they will see what actual violence is no justice. No peace case so that was from David. Here's my response to that. Okay, so it's clear we don't see eye to eye on this, but the what we don't see eye to eye on. That police brutality is a huge problem is not that these people are absolutely correct as fight back and take action. We agree on that. And I don't want I want to be very clear about that because anything that I seem to be refuting or kind of. Clapping back on. has nothing to do with that. We agree on that. Only area we really disagree is in fact the looting to me? Destroying a place of business or even worse residence as a way to combat police brutality. That doesn't make sense that seems about as effective as trying to solve algebra equation by Golfing I don't I don't understand how they're even related. I mean. Look. starbucks Wendy's and most other places badly damaged. That had nothing to do with law enforcement unless cops actually work the register at that. Wendy's and cops are making your Latte at starbucks. Then I don't know how the two are connected. They aren't connected. and. Yes, while a sports starbucks window can't breathe. The people who work there certainly can, and the people who work at those places are usually students, artists single parents. They're human being. They breathe in. They need a job and it's not exactly an easy environment to find a new job right now. And he talks about a broken windows. A starbucks will. If only that's all we were talking about. You know that's not. That is not the extent of the damage. I mean a lot of places. have been completely destroyed completely destroyed. And not for nothing. But. Welcoming the destruction and illegality that's been in my opinion and unfortunate by product of the recent movement. Eight is not a good look. It is not a good message and yeah. I know that you know messaging. Probably seems unimportant. But, frankly it's really important and Democrats and left leaning. Folks are really fucking bad at it. Leaders. Say something folks you know. Bottom line. As long as Donald, trump is in the White House. No substantial change is going to happen no loss to combat police brutality. No criminal justice reform is going to be enacted. It's just not going to happen. Like it or not, you have to win elections in order to make change and. Frankly rating targets and burn down Burger Kings, that is not a good image that does not play well. I was GONNA say in the Mid West, but it really doesn't play well anywhere. It scares people. It upsets people. It distracts from what the real issue is. Your something else that David said in the midst of that conversation that I was surprised by, and it's the same topic people you know these institutions that are being destroyed and jobs that are being lost. Lock, my first job was Jonathan my first job was. At the APPLEBEES but like I. WE happily. have let that place burned to the Crown Dave. I mean. I look. Year old. Kid in the suburb. Yes, prevalence, Burt Ledge. You can say all that you want, but that doesn't take away from the fact that like there's no each in to the job. is there that is like a this is a handout at that is a paltry in meaningless a yes it. The. Even for poor, people. For working at Wendy's this, this is just a thing that helps you make rent. That's important. All right now again I know. David is a caring compassionate person. That's why he takes stances he does. But to me, that was so crazy. I mean that was so crazy. Look David and I as I say we've known each other longtime. We grew up in the same area. We really were privileged, I? Don't say I was spoiled growing up. I say I was so fucking lucky. And I knew that the second I went away to college quite frankly. I was so lucky I never had to want for anything in neither David Really. So the idea, you is so easy for us. And he says this he says you know we can say why privilege privilege privilege. In. It's funny because that's not I'm not usually one to throw that term around. But I mean I've never heard such. Such, extreme example of white privilege, or you know in our case white. Upper. Class real privilege. Then to just kind of Piss away at these job. These you know like I get it. These are not career necessarily. This is not necessarily what people want to spend the rest of their lives doing but like. For. Someone who might be putting themselves through night school managing. At the local McDonald's or Wendy's. Or maybe being a shift lead at starbucks, or just being a Barista at starbucks or a Barista at. Dick's. Coffee Shop. Who knows it's not just these big corporations that were damaged? You know we can. We can kind of turn our noses up at those jobs, but that's a job. In No, perhaps those people working there didn't WanNa be working there in five years, but. They need to be working there now. He talks about that's just a way to get the pay the rent. Okay well if you can't pay the rent. That leads to problems that leads to stress. I'm just stunned by this. I mean like. I just don't understand personally. How destroying a business destroying a building taking away certain people's jobs whether you think they're good jobs are not. What exactly does that do to work towards police reform to work towards? Ending police brutality. I don't know I. Don't get it. But. We also talked about the upcoming presidential election. And while it was clear that we didn't necessarily see eye to eye. Listening back to it what I wish I would have been more vocal. About was not how I feel. But more so. How scary I thought, his kind of attitude was about it. Here's how David reacted when I mentioned when I brought up. Joe Biden when I brought up the upcoming presidential election that is going to decide. Whether trump has former years. Or. Someone else is finally able to take over and we can. Try and get back to at the very least. Calm and normalcy. Here's how he answered. I'm I'm more focused on. You know direct action stuff right now. I'm not really thinking about it. Honestly, it's it hasn't really. Come up too much, but I'm just kind of like waiting to see actually Joe Biden's campaign hasn't really kicked off and. You know. Biden win. I hope he does I do I also recognize that my vote doesn't matter okay, and then he will. Play the rest in just a second, but already I wanna point some things out. kind of like in the clip where he said I don't condone anything like the violence and the looting, but I support. You know the looting and I support people breaking into starbucks and. Fighting back by harming stuff. You hear him say that he hopes Biden wins and he would never vote for trump. But, as you just heard he then kind of turns and starts talking about how I can't believe he said that. Joe Biden's campaign. Hasn't really started its rely the elections in November. What are you talking about? What? Yes, it hasn't been able to be like a normal campaign because of Calvin. What it started come! What do you he and then we then gets into how his vote doesn't matter. I am ready to new. York and my vote doesn't really matter to. You, know Would you feel differently, or would you feel like? Maybe there was more added importance if you were still registered in Minnesota. I think if I were in Minnesota. I would have a different calculus about. I think that I would probably. You know look. This is the thing. I have a feeling that Joe Biden. Isn't really appealing to burn people I don't think that that's target demo I think is target demo is never trump republicans. and. Disaffected trump coders. and a few other moderates who were kind of on the fence, but just really hated Hillary. Clinton voted for trump. and a few other folks like that. I don't really think that he's really like appealing to me and I. Don't think he really. The I just get a sense. His campaign that he needs vote. Okay, so all of that is absolutely insane to me and you know we went on to about it. I kind of. Focused on the fact that well if you were still in. Because he's where he was talking about how we're registered in New York and our votes don't really matter. I asked him will if you're still registered MINNESOTA. Would you feel differently? And he said well. You know maybe a little Kinda. He also the beginning of that clip referred to. The Unity Commission which I would say is a explicit obvious. Effort by the Biden campaign in Biden himself. To appeal to burn voted to reach out to that action of the party. He said that he referred to the Unity Commission and then went on to say that he doesn't feel like Biden cares about our votes doesn't need our votes and trying to get our votes. I don't understand that I don't understand that number one number two A. Listening back to that. What really kind of like kills me? Is, the lack of urgency I understand that he said he's more focused on local activism in local politics, and that's absolutely fine. Those are important but again. Nothing is going to change when Donald Trump is in the White House ready to veto any good law that is written any good law that has passed. He will veto it. Nothing good is going to happen. It's going to be continued. Chaos continued corruption. And Much to my shock. You know you heard David. Say that he would never over trump. He also called himself a socialist in our conversation, but he did at certain points talk about. Good things that trump had done and he. said. How much he hated Biden's crime bill, even though I pointed out that the violence against Women Act was in the crime. Bill would not exist without the crime bill. At, one point in the conversation, David said. And this is a direct quote. I wish I had the clip, but I don't, but I remember it very well, he said. He was referring to Joe Biden. Said I mean let's be real. He's got a credible accusation of rape against him. And I said I wish we could talk about that. It would take up the whole episode that I thought actually that really actually bothered me in just kind of upset me or surprise me. That is bullshit first of all. He's referring to Tara Reid obviously. Tara Reid never accused him of rape. Tara read. Granted, it might be hard to remember because accusation has changed a lot. But the most severe accusation ever made. was that Joe Biden cornered her in an area of the Senate building. and. Penetrated her with his fingers. So that's, let's be clear about that number one number two. Credible I mean what what? I didn't really want to get into it. because. To say that it's credible. What makes it credible? The only thing that as a first of all the reason that you're not hearing about that accusation much anymore these days. Is For one reason only and that is because. Of the extensive lack of any credible evidence, any credible cooperation. The credibility of that accusation came down to a random clip of Larry King live from the early nineties that included an unknown woman, saying something about an unknown senator. That was as. Ridiculous as a piece of proof as anything I've ever seen held up some of her friends. And maybe her brother said that they remembered her telling them certain parts of it. But it all kept changing, and they said well she might have said this, not exactly reliable or corroborative. There have been extensive investigations into this time has done multiple pieces. They've talked to hundreds of people. The place that she has said this took place in the Senate building does not exist. It has been revealed that Tara, Reid. gave false information about credentials that she had in a court of law testimony, she gave. She calls herself an expert witness. Those cases had to be thrown out years later because she had given false credentials. She has a track record of telling lies, and I'm not saying that she's necessarily lying about this, but the bottom line is, we will never know we will never really know so when you have that truth and that reality you have to take step back and look at the facts and the facts are. There is no corroboration. There's really no proof offer. Jill Biden of all of the funny of all of the things that are not great about his past. An accusation of anything even like this is so far removed from his character. that. I think that's worth something. And lastly. What good you know, that was such an outrageous things. It was such an outrageous thing to say. It does bother me and honestly. As I said David did bright, and you know. Send some stuff that he would like to refer to. And as far as this topic goes, he just sent. A headline? It wasn't even linked to an article. It was just one headline about this story. and to me, it's like Oh, my gosh, if that's really. The evidence that he has to rely on. That's no evidence. So, that's just a blind statement to me. And what it comes down to. You know you can say. He said I. Want Joe Biden to win really. Because it really didn't sound like it. In the lack of urgency, in not so much of the urgency, but like you know talking saying stuff like that, that's not even true about the man. What are you trying to do that's not that doesn't sound like you want him to win folks. Come November. Here's what's going to happen. We will either have four more years of this absolute misery which it has been. Complete corruption total lawlessness. Chaotic. or Joe Biden and his life president and the young people will bring into the administration and Mentor. That's it so. I suggest that we yeah. You know that's how it's going to be so if you really do care about these causes then I suggest we all kind of suck it up and fain some enthusiasm. And, not just vote for him. I think we have to do more than that. Maybe. Stop trashing and maybe stop colleague credible rape accusation. That's bullshit. And remember who he is up against you take a look at her. She's a Slob. She talks like a like a truck driver so I loved it I. Gloat over it I. Think it's wonderful. Because I like to see people fail when somebody disrespects our flag to say, get that son of a bitch off the field right now out. Fire. I mean I'd look in that fed ugly face if You're fired. These are totally corrupt people, but they'll do what I say. What about the alt-left that came charging at as you say the alt-right? Do they have any semblance the other group? I think there's blame on both sides and I have no doubt about it, and you don't have any doubt about it either. We pretty much. Shut it down coming in from China. April supposedly is with hotter. Weather looks like by April. You know in theory when it gets a little warmer. Miraculously goes to what we have done an incredible job. We're going to continue. It's going to disappear one day. It's like a miracle will disappear. People are soft and weak and frankly stupid and incompetent I'd like to take some money out of her fat ass. Pockets to senator is nothing. Certain people are Zeros. You are stupid, so that's who he's running against and you. WanNa talk about credible rape accusations. Try Multiple. Try a tape where he's bragging about grabbing women's genitals, these people are not comparable and you know. I have to point out because yes. Joe Biden has been following es CDC guidelines and the World Health Organization's instructions as to not hold these big rallies and big campaign events, but you know where he was recently where he did show up where he did make public address George Floyd's funeral. Now I don't think he asked to do that. I don't think he pushed his way in I. Think the family welcomed him. Because? He met with them multiple times beforehand and. Having lost apparent at a young age I was twelve when my dad died very unexpectedly. I found his words very very touching and here's what he had to say. This is the type of man. Here's who's on our ticket. Gloria on understanding of prayer. Retry to understand God's plan in our paid. Georgia's family and friends. Jilin I know the deep hole in your hearts when you vary piece of your soul. Deepen this earth! As I, said you privately. We know. We know you will never feel the same again. For most people. Feel now slowly turn day after day season after season and the purpose. Through the memory of the one they lost. A few. Days come before you can fully grave. And, unlike most must grieve and public. Some burden. A burden that is now your purpose to change the world for the better. Named George Floor. Like so many others. I've watched with all as you some of the Absent Curry's two channels God's grace. Show, the good man George was. Search disturb justice to long-dormant to move manage act peacefully purposely. But among all the people around the world who feel connected to this tragedy? or the ones loss something, I can never ever be replaced. To Georgia's children and grandchild. No you Miss Your Dad and your granddad. Owes Yana. Said why to you and I saw yesterday. You're so brave. Daddy's looking down. He's so proud of you. I know you missed and bear hug it only he could give. The pure joy. Riding on his shoulders, so you can touch the sky. Countless hours. He spent playing any game. You want it because your smile, your laugh your love. Is the only thing that mattered at the moment. And know you have a lot of questions, honey. No child should have to ask questions. Too many black children have had to ask for generations why? Is Standing. Looking through your eyes, we should also be asking ourselves why the answer so often too cruel and painful. Why in his nation. You, too many black Americans wake up knowing that they could lose their life. Of course, just living. Why does justice not roll like a river or righteous was like a mighty stream? Why. John. Kit turn away. Must not turn away. We cannot lead this moment thinking. We can once again turn away from racism and stains at our very soul. From systemic abuse. Still Plagues American life. Is Thurgood Marshall once implored Co.. America must sent from indifference. It must ascend from fear, hatred and mistrust. We must descent because America can do better because America has no choice but to do better. I grew up with Catholic. Social Doctrine was taught me. Faith! Without works is dead. You'll know us what we do. Basin John! Got To deal with the denial promise of this nation to so many people for so long. It's about who we are. What we believe, maybe most importantly who we want to be. Sure that all men and women. Not only created equal what are treated equally. We can heal this nation's wounds, remembrance, pain, callous, the heart and forget. I know. Reverend Sharpton Zehr in Houston with you today. To speak from ecclesiastic last week in Minnesota, chapter three verse one. Everything. There is a time and a purpose the season under the heavens. Today now is the time. The purpose season to listen, and he'll now is the time for racial justice. That's the answering must give to our children when they ask why. Because when there's justice for George Floyd. We will truly be on our way to racial justice in America and then as you said you. Daddy will have changed the world. God be with you George Floyd. And you found. Him From my church based on ninety first song. They raise you up on Eagle's wings. Beer you on the President Dawn. Make you to shine like The Sun? And hold you in the palm of his hand. Bush.

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Violence, threats have marked anti-abortion protest since day one

MSNBC Rachel Maddow (audio)

44:54 min | 9 months ago

Violence, threats have marked anti-abortion protest since day one

"The show weeknights at nine eastern on. MSNBC good evening thanks for joining us this hour. Happy to have you with us. So we've been on the road we sent producers out across the country to pull together a really important story tonight about something that is happening right now with historic implications. The story here tonight begins with this guy. This is Harry Blackmun. He was from Minnesota Conservative lawyer. Judge I appointed to the Federal Bench by Dwight Eisenhower he became Richard Nixon's second appointment to the United States. Supreme Court but black men was not Nixon's first choice for the job Nixon's first I two picks had pro segregation records that got unearthed or dissect it during the confirmation process. Both of them were ultimately rejected by the Senate which it was a big an embarrassing blow for Nixon so for his third try. Nixon chose Harry Blackmun because Blackman was seen as so uncontroversial that he would be the hard for anybody to vote against. Lachman made a good first impression on the senators. Who will help decide his fate? And barring the unexpected his nomination should sail through thus far. No one has even asked to testify against him but the unexpected already has occurred twice so most senators still are not committing themselves. The find a super uncontroversial Guy Strategy worked for that nomination Harry Blackman's nomination. The Nation to the court was unanimously approved by the US Senate. On June ninth nineteen seventy he was sworn in to the Supreme Court and somewhat ironically for for a guy who was chosen specifically because he was seen as the most middle of the Road non-offensive guaranteed noncontroversial guy to stick in that spot justice. BLACKMUN would go on just a couple of years later to write one of the most controversial. US Supreme Court Opinions Ever seventy-two decision. That the first three months of pregnancy only the woman and her physician may decide whether she may have an abortion in the second three months all the state may do is regulate abortion procedures and only in the final three months of pregnancy. Can the state forbid abortion across all fifty states are effective whatever. Their loss wasn't a close decision. It was decided by a big majority right seventy two but it was Harry Blackmun. Who who wrote the opinion for the seven-member majority and for that reason Harry Blackmun became the sort of face of that ruling? The face of ROE versus Wade five years after his death Justice Blackman's papers were released. And that's when we the public learned that Harry Blackmun saved everything everything thing in the fifteen hundred plus boxes of documents he donated to the Library of Congress. You can find everything from hotel. Receipts Two tennis scores. Two dance cards from childhood private notes between the justices on the Supreme Court and it turns out. When you're the guy who wrote the Roe versus Wade decision and you were also a guy who keeps everything that means? You're a guy who has held onto a pile of hate mail and death wishes and threats ten years after Nineteen eighty-three according to reporting by the Associated Press. The Supreme Court had received forty five thousand letters about Roe versus swayed most of them addressed to justice Blackmun Justice Blackmun set. At the time quote. We still receive eight nine ten letters a day. Some are very supportive very lovely messages but most are very abusive. The more recent ones are as abusive as the initial ones ignoring the advice of fellow justices against reading such male justice. Blackman says I want to know what the people who wrote are thinking. Here's what they were thinking quote. They have called him a murderer. A butcher even punches pilot they have compared him to the Nazi overseers of genocide in Nineteen eighty-five a bullet from a nine millimeter pistol was shot through Justice Blackman's Blackmon's apartment window and his living room showering glass onto his wife. Who happened to be in the room? It was never determined if that bullet was directly targeting justice black men or if it might have been a stray shot just coincidence but the shot through the window came on the heels of a series of death. Threats Justice Blackman's daughter has. He said he always traveled with security. After that Blackman they used to go alone on. Walks has been under protection since receiving a letter last fall all another last week threatening him with death anti-abortion demonstrators of singled out black men for his authorship of the courts nineteen seventy-three decision decriminalising abortion. Russian that's how the modern day abortion wars have been fought in this country from day one from the Roe versus Wade decision onward with violence wants and the threat of violence always hanging in the air when the Supreme Court cleared the way for legal abortion in every state clinic sprang up all over the country to accommodate women who were coming out of the shadows to access this now legally protected procedure. Everything went for an abortion but as quickly as abortion clinics open their doors organized opponents gathered trying to shut him down after the Supreme Court legalized sized abortion and abortion. Clinic opened in Saint Louis. anti-abortion groups have been picketing ever since they also got the legislature to throw up various roadblocks to abortion worship by the nineteen eighties and nineties. This is what it was like to be an abortion provider in America already many have bulletproof glass and across the country there are more than thirty thousand escorts who have to use cloak and dagger measures to protect doctors clients and themselves a wave of clinic. Bombings that peaked in the nineteen eighties was followed by a series of assassinations in the nineteen nineties and abortion facility was hit by a bomb blast bomb blasts at three abortion clinics a propane. Gas bomb exploded last night in the Washington Office of the National Abortion Federation so far. This shear twenty-eight abortion clinics and information centers have been bombed or set afire. Doctor David Gunn was shot after getting out of his car. He came to work at Pensacola abortion. Clinic Dr Dr Tiller who performs third trimester abortions had been shot twice outside his clinic. The gunman shot four people before escaping. Here one woman a clinic worker doc. At the scene Doctor John Britton and James Barrett were cut down with shotgun blasts Barnett Slepian an Amherst New York doctor. Well known to Anti anti-abortion. Protestors was shot dead by a sniper last night while at home with his wife and four children. You could not find an abortion provider in the eighties eighties and nineties. Who would say felt immune from the threat of terroristic violence? Everyone involved in abortion was vulnerable. But perhaps no one was targeted. It s relentlessly as one specific doctor in Wichita Kansas Doctor George Tiller for two months antiabortion. Protesters laid siege aged clinics in Wichita Kansas but their main target was not the clinic. It was adopted. Dr George Toa. They called him tiller the killer tillers still performs abortions but hundreds of other doctors have stopped because of scenes like this and this ANTIABORTION forces targeted Dr Tiller in every way imaginable in nineteen eighty six. His clinic was bombed Tiller. Hung a sign outside. Had the bomb out buildings that said Hell No. We won't go. He reopened the next day at a secret location. We've had a major hundred thousand dollar bombing here in our organization and one day later we're in business. In nineteen ninety-one the radical antiabortion groups group operating rescue called on thousands of antiabortion activists from across the country to converge on Wichita to physically shutdown. George Tillers Clinic Wichita is not used to guerrilla tactics. But it's learning people here have seen weeks of militant antiabortion protests barricading clinics harassing think patients using children as human shields eventually the radical fringe of the antiabortion movement. Turn to a chilling new tactic to isolate and target. Doctors wanted posters that cast abortion doctors as murderers and gave anyone who might wish them harm literal instructions on how to find those doctors. There was a wanted poster targeting Doctor David Gunn before he was murdered. It showed his photo the make and model and license since plate number on his car. It showed the addresses of each of his offices that was a wanted poster targeting. Doctor John Britton before he was murdered. The photo even shows shows him wearing a bulletproof vest it lists information about his car and includes his home address. Here's a wanted poster of Doctor George Tiller that we believe circulated in the early nineties. It compares him to Adolf Hitler. It shows his photo city where he lives and his exact office address. On on August nineteenth nineteen ninety-three an antiabortion activist named Shelley Shannon. Walked up to doctor George Tiller the parking lot of the address on that poster and she shot him for the second time this year. An abortion doctor has been shot apparently by an antiabortion activist this time. The doctor survived the attack. Dr Tiller was taken to the hospital and treat it. He returned to his clinic to work the next day. You know I'm just like my patients you know last night got shot and I was scared. There was somebody there to take care of me. Shelley Shannon shooting did not stop doctor. George Tiller what did you want to do stuffing from King. Maybe but getting caught and convicted and sentenced thrown in prison did not stop Shelley Shannon from believing that she did the right thing and that she was and could continue to be an important part of a movement that embraces violence as as a means to end abortion in America there is a pro violence wing of the antiabortion movement. These people see themselves as soldiers in an actual war. They call themselves the Army of God assassinating abortion. Doctors in their view is justifiable homicide. Going to jail for murdering bring an abortion. Doctor is seen as a noble sacrifice before she shot Dr Tiller Shelley Shannon wrote warm approving letters to the man who killed Dr Doctor David Gunn in Florida she wrote to him in jail as he awaited trial when she went on to commit her own act of violence that began the next chapter of her life life as a hero soldier in the Army of God her prison term would stop her from personally carrying out any further violence but it couldn't stop her from inspiring during the next would be assassin. Meanwhile in Wichita Dr Tiller kept on with his work you simply cannot retreat. When you're committed there is no way that we are going to be forced out of this particular more correct legal healthcare experience outside of the Army of God manifestos from dark corners of the Internet? Some of the most radical language used against George Tiller was piped into millions of homes on a regular basis. Thanks to a television host on the Fox Fox News Channel killing babies in America. That's a subject of this evening's talking points memo for Five Thousand Dollars Tiller. The baby killer is some call. Him will perform a late term abortion for just about any reasons this man. Doctor George Tiller known as Tiller the baby killer is performing late term abortions without defining the specific medical reasons seasons walk in two thousand two an antiabortion state legislator named Phil Kline was elected Attorney General for the state of Kansas. I Wanna I tell you you who does not endorse attorney. General Foch Line abortionist doctor. George Tiller does not endorse line in two thousand. There's an eleven a producer from this show asked for his thoughts on abortion yourself believe that abortion should be made illegal doin myself the comment about that. I'm also awesome anti murderer and I put a lot of murders too. I followed almost immediately upon taking office as Kansas State. Attorney General Phill. Kline started a secret investigation into George Tiller. He used subpoena power to get dozens of patient. Medical records. In defiance of a judge's order are keeping the patient's identity secret Klein staff staked out Dr tillers parking lot they followed patients took down license plate numbers they subpoenaed a nearby ear by hotel for records. That helped them unredacted. These patients medical records to get the patients names. All of this was in pursuit of something. Something to use against George Tiller something to charge him when but it also sent a message to women and girls in Kansas. If you try to get an abortion here you could be the subject of an investigation by the State Attorney General Style. Get his hands on your personal medical records. All of them Klein ultimately got his license to practice. Does Law Yanked by the state of Kansas for misconduct in his pursuit of Dr till learn. All of his efforts against Tiller ultimately yielded a misdemeanor case rocked doc by climbs successor over how Tiller referred patients for a state mandated second opinion in certain abortions on March twenty seven two thousand nine nine following years of investigations. After four days of testimony. It took jurors all of forty five minutes to clear George Tiller of all charges but two months later Dr Tiller was dead. tillers murderer had been sitting in that courtroom watching that trial watching the justice system exonerate. George George Tiller. You can see him here. Sitting next to the president of Operation Rescue two months later he would walk into the church. George Tiller attended walked in on a Sunday morning. He held begun to tell her head and the executed him at point blank. Range according to the killer Scott Roeder. He'd been thinking about killing George Tiller for years but it was the result of that trial George tillers acquittal of all those misdemeanor charges that motivated him them to actually go through with it to actually do. It seemed like that was the last attempt by the state of Kansas. To find if there was is anything at all going on illegally in George tillers clinic and it seems as though that was the last step now he was acquitted. Did you decide that was accompanied. Hymie pawn you to do something. There was nothing being done and the a legal processes have been exhausted and these babies were dying every day and I felt it if if someone did not to do something he was going to continue awarding children and So I felt what did I needed to act and quickly for those children. Scott Roeder did not get to this point of radicalization overnight. According to his ex wife he'd he become involved in the antiabortion movement in the nineteen ninety s he protested at clinics including Dr Tillers he tried to superglue the wok shot on another Kansas Clinic. It also visited Shelley Shannon in prison on the day. He murdered Dr Tiller when he was arrested that day after the shooting. A scrap of paper was found in his getaway car on that scrap of paper was written the phone number of a top operation. Rescue official Roeder testified at his murder trial that he learned about Dr Tillers Security Protocols from Operation Rescue Scott Roeder. The murderer of Doctor George Tiller order was not a lone wolf. He was the product of a violent radical antiabortion network. Look when I was in the pro-life movement we knew who it was glowing doors shut. We knew who vandalizing property We knew of people who had thrown firebombs. We knew of course people who were in jail. Most of these pro-life groups have a group of people always on the French who are hanging around a more extreme than others who they know who've been involved in acts of violence and petty theft. Maybe a firebombing this or that it's time to begin to blow the whistle on these guys had that happen with Scott Roeder. Dr Taylor would not have been murdered understood when he was tried for the murder of Dr Tiller Miller. It took a jury all thirty seven minutes to decide that they would convict Scott Roeder and with that. The trial was over the national media attention. Attention faded and Wichita was left to grapple with the aftermath of this act of terrorism. Without George Tiller there was no abortion provider left in this the city and that might have been but tillers friends and family and supporters decided that they would do what they had seen. George Tiller do time and again they would overcome the fear and intimidation and violence and come back Hey Everyone Steve Kornacki here. We have heard explosive testimony from key witnesses in the public impeachment hearings. So what's next as the case for impeachment been then made. Could the president count on Republican support in a Senate trial. And how could it affect the twenty twenty election. Will every Monday Wednesday and Friday I talked to NBC News Reporters Reporters to answer these questions and more on article two inside impeachment it's an NBC News. podcast host we break down what matters what's next and what it means for our country search now wherever you're listening to this podcast to subscribe for free and now is a great time to do it. You can catch up on the latest during your Thanksgiving travels. Thanks for listening. George Tiller. Father was also a doctor. A prominent Wichita family practice doctor and nine hundred seventy tillers father along with his mother. His sister and his brother in law were all killed in a plane crash after that crash. George Tiller left the Navy to head back to Wichita where he and his wife adopted his infant nephew and where he intended to wind down and eventually close up his father's practice in Wichita but then something happened. The patient started asking the younger Dr Tiller if he was going to take care of women the way his father had done this was before Roe versus Wade abortion at the time was illegal in Kansas. I was horrified because the only thing worse than a woman that would request an abortion. Was the physician that would do the reapportion so I was outrage with these nice people and then my mom that my dad had been provided quality healthcare for over an extended period of time say that he was scumbag physician. Tiller had thought that his father had done one or two abortions over the course of his career but after very took over his father's family practice he learned. It was much more than one or two. Here's what happened in nineteen forty five forty six forty seven. You're a young woman. For whom data already delivered. Two babies came to him. I A pregnant again right away and she. He said something to the effect that I can't take it. Can you help me. And those are the two common denominators apparently the way you ask for three and abortion from your regular doctor before abortion was legal. Dad said no big families revoked. By the time the baby gets here I will be all right. She went out had a non healthcare provider. Abortion came back ten days to two weeks later and died I don't know how many abortions he did but the women in my a father's practice for whom he did abortions educated me and taught me abortion is a matter of survival for women and so George Tiller state in Wichita in his father's practice in the same building he expanded it. He rebuilt it after. It was bombed bombed in the one thousand nine hundred eighty s and the nineteen nineties. The Supreme Court Decision Planned Parenthood v Casey paved the way for states hostile to abortion rights to push through onerous this new restrictions targeting abortion clinics in response Tiller added a new wing to the clinic with massive operating rooms designed to meet the specifications of an ambulatory surgical center. Even though most abortions can be done safely just in a doctor's office after more than thirty years if everything from vandalism. I'm an blockades to threats. And violence to the full force of the state. Government Being Leveraged Against Him George Tiller was finally silenced when and Scott Roeder shot him in the head on May thirty first two thousand nine nine days later tillers family announced that they would not reopen the clinic. Dr Taylor was the city's only abortion provider so his deaf ended abortion access in Wichita and that had a real practical call an immediate effect on all the women who had come to rely on Tiller and on this particular clinic for this kind of care. antiabortion forces in Wichita Adamant about keeping the clinic closed in the wake of tillers murder keeping Wichita abortion free late in two thousand ten more than a year after Taylor's death and more than a year after the clinic had closed the Associated Press reported that two doctors in Kansas were training to become abortion providers. Those doctors names aims were leaked to the a p by the antiabortion movement and the AP decided to print their names and the threats and intimidation and harassment began immediately. One of those two doctors. Dr Myla means she chose to share her story with US among others after she was outed by the AP her landlord sued her her to stop her from adding abortion service to her primary care practice. He threatened to kick her out to end her office lease if she did any abortions out her medical practice Dr means was picketed at her home and at her office even prospective location. She was rumored to be considering relocating to those were targeted to antiabortion activists distributed a wanted style flyer with her photo and exact address calling her murderer and encouraging people to confront her at her office net her home. She got a letter warning her. That someday somebody was going to put a bomb under her car. So milem means and the other doctor who were trying trying to bring abortion back as a medical service to Wichita. After the murder of Dr Tiller ended it. They weren't successful the intimidation and threats and harassment. Aspen worked as intended and Wichita remained without a provider. But then came Julie. Burkhart Julie Burkhart had worked for Dr Tiller for years and up until his murder on legislative policy and as the clinic spokesperson. She like everyone in dock. tillers orbit was devastated by his murder. Angry at what it meant for her city she was also quietly determined to bring abortion back to Wichita women here need to be able to have access to OBGYN care that includes abortion care. Why living in this part of the country should women be denied? Ride the services the vast majority of the people who I work with here. We're we're from this part of the country so you know this is our our places. Well I think it says a lot lot for our nation that we are not going to tolerate these extremists and we will ensure that women have rights no matter where we live in two thousand twelve three years after Dr Tiller was assassinated Julie. Burkhardt bought tillers old clinic and right away. The network of antiabortion antiabortion activists who had just successfully fought back. Those other two doctors who had been trying to reinstate abortion access in Wichita right away away when Julie bought tillers clinic they came for her. They tried twice to get the land. The clinic sits on rezoned so medical facility couldn't operate there. They held protests outside cider house. And of course they distributed wanted style posters with her photo and her personal information. Is this scary team to have this distributed and have your home address in your Andrew Picture. Well it's something that I take very seriously. We communicate regularly with law law enforcement So it's something that we take very seriously but it will not deter us it will not deter US coming up next. This is what it looks like when your job makes you the target for a whole radical movement of people who are bent on stopping you who see this as a war and you is their enemy. I remember Dr Tiller was assassinated. I was in my first year of medical school. I was in a women's health elective eventually when I found out And I I don't know if that planted a seed in my head but I will always remember that moment And I come here. Now is an abortion provider and I see my patients who have been cared for in the past by Dr Tiller. I see nurses purses and volunteers. And so many people know him. And it's inspiring but it's also scary I know I think about it all the time Especially when I'm out and about I'm flying or I'm pulling pulling into clinic or I'm checking into the hotel. I tell my Uber driver. What I'm doing here in January two thousand thirteen Julie Burkhardt was camped out at the site of George tillers shuddered clinic surrounded by contractors and a crew of lawyers and activists Liszt's intent on bringing abortion access back to wichita now six years later? They've accomplished that and then some when she said out to re-open the open it Julie Burkhardt was not sure anyone would want to come to this clinic again. The place that for decades has been the epicenter of America's often violent abortion in wars. But like George Tiller had always said women need abortions and people did come to the clinic in fact so many people came the three years after. Does she got Dr Tillers Clinic. Back up and running again in Wichita. Julia opened another clinic three hours south in Oklahoma City. It was a fight to get each each clinic open. Most as Julie says it still feels like a fight to keep them open between these two states. You know we have. We have things coming at us all the time whether it's protesters what the state legislatures want to do what we have going on You know running through the judiciary There might be patient issues funding issues Physician recruitment issues. People still. Don't want to necessarily come to Wichita People still ten years after Dr Tillers assassination. Still View Wichita is being this very violent volatile community community and get that but it makes it difficult for us in terms of recruiting doctors. I still don't have any physicians nations. Who live in Wichita or living in Oklahoma City so all these years later we still fly people in all these years later we still fly people and she has to fly doctors in to Wichita and Oklahoma City every week to see patients? Angela Marshon is one of those doctors. I'm from in the Midwest so I had thought of moving back to the mid West. I don't feel that it's safe for me to go to live in a place where I would constantly be under threat of violence or harm. So you don't you wouldn't feel safe living in Wichita in working here. This setup clinics do not have in town doctors. This is very common in the states. Where abortion access is already most vulnerable in at least half dozen? Republican led states where there are very few or even just one remaining clinic. The atmosphere is seen as so hostile to abortion providers that clinics are not able able to find any local doctors. Who will do the job just like Julius doing? They fly doctors in from other states. And that makes those clinics even more vulnerable Volta Getting shut down by the very creative and aggressive antiabortion forces working out of various Republican controlled state legislatures. There's a whole class of laws ause known as trap laws tr AP targeted regulations against abortion providers. These trop laws are basically increasingly baroque deliberately deliberately onerous regulations that are designed for one purpose to shut down abortion clinics because clinics aren't supposed to be able to comply with these requirements. It's one of the more in fashion trop laws of the past several years as a rule requiring abortion doctors to have admitting privileges at a nearby hospital l.. Wherever they're practicing? There's no medical reason for this. Abortion is a relatively safe low risk procedure that in most cases can be done in a doctor's office complications that require hospitalization are very rare and even in those very rare cases. The doctor who performs the procedure doesn't need admitting privileges to send a patient to the hospital. In a place like Wichita or Oklahoma City for the doctors do not live in the states where they do abortions. It's impossible for them to get admitting privileges colleges at a local hospital. But that's of course the point. The point is not that doctors should be able to get those privileges. The point of these laws is that doctors won't get with them and so that can be used as an excuse to legally Bam that doctor from performing abortions or to shut down the clinics where they would have done so we've seen this play out in Texas in two thousand thirteen. The republican state government passed an admitting privileges trap law as a result half off the clinics in that state were forced to shut down three years later. The Supreme Court threw out that trap lawn in Texas in a five three decision that ruled that it did nothing nothing to protect women's health but it did put a substantial burden on women's ability to access abortion law was overturned since then though president trump has made to new appointments to the US Supreme Court and now there's a big flashing red light warning sign that the new conservative majority Supreme Court wants to take another look at this particular brand of trop law. The court has now taken up a virtually identical trop law to the Texas when they threw out this from Louisiana the case is set to be decided decided by the Supreme Court in June expectation. Is that this. Newly constituted court will change course on that trop la the expectation is that they're going to say that trop flaw is okay now even if the result is the immediate wholesale shutdown of clinics so in Chile. Burkhardt says she feels like there's opposition coming at her all the time. This is part of what she means. First antiabortion threats and terrorism and violence have made her city an unsafe place for local doctors to practice portion so her work around is flying doctors in from out of state but now the new conservative majority in the Supreme Court looks poised to use that very fact that she can't get local doctors that are clinics as a reason to shut her down to end abortion in Wichita again moorhead tonight in this special national reports. Stay with us the meet the press. Chuck Todd Cast. It's an insider's take on politics. Twenty twenty election and more candid conversations with some some of my favorite reporters about things. We usually discuss off camera. Listen for free wherever you get your podcast. Carl Swinney has a desk desk job office hours or eight to five most days some days are slower than others. But that's about where Carl Sweeney's desk jobs stops being a normal normal desk job because he does have a desk. His desk sits opposite of metal detector and he wears a gun on his hip. Carl swinney works for Julie Burkhart heart at the trust. Women Clinic in Wichita Kansas. He's the facilities coordinator there which means he's in charge of keeping the staff at that clinic safe as well as the patients who go there for healthcare. Carl worked for Dr Tillers Clinic to He. Was the security guard at Dr Tillers clinic up until the day Tiller was shot at his church. Carl remembers seeing the man who killed his boss. He had come by the clinic. When Dr Tiller worked there you'd seen and Scott Roeder here I'd seen him yeah why got me as Mardi setting court or so? I why he was asked why he didn't Try to shoot him here instead in church unusual unusual the guard data gun. Wonder why these days Mr Swinney still L. has his gun. He Man's the lobby at the clinic. He signs in the patients. He keeps an eye on the protesters making sure they don't get too close. There are fewer protesters testers than there were in the tiller days but they can still get aggressive. Sometimes they stand in the parking lot they drive by the entrance back and forth back and forth the threat they pose still feels like a very live one. Because it's hard to tell who's just a guy with a sign and who could be the next Scott Ritter. Carl says he keeps an eye out for what he calls the problem people in Kansas today. A woman who shot a doctor who performs abortions was sentenced to eleven years in prison or Shell Shannon. John was convicted in March of attempted murder. In last summer's attack. On doctor George Tiller Rachelle Shelley Shannon went to prison for trying to murder Dr Tiller a federal judge called her a terrorist and said she was even a threat behind bars but that was twenty five years ago. Shelley Shannon is not behind bars anymore. Right now she's out. Shelley Shannon was let out of prison last year on supervised release the assistant. US Attorney who prosecuted her case said quote quote she's completely unreal habilitated. She has the same mentality and goals that she had when she was convicted. Abortion providers riders across the country expressed alarm when Shannon was let out of prison. Not just because she herself could cause more violence but because she could inspire it too. So Karl keeps a picture of Shelley Shannon on the wall next to his desk her head shot hangs behind reception so everyone on staff knows exactly Ackley what she looks like to because who knows if she might decide to come back. Dr Tiller of course will not be there if there is a next time but the clinic is still a clarion symbol for the aggressive radical antiabortion movement that has targeted his clinic and the reason that clinic has remained symbol. The reason that clinic is still there at all still serving Kansas women. Is Julie Burkhardt. Julius not just the face of abortion services in Wichita off after that famous doctor was killed. She's the reason. Abortion services exist in Wichita at all were it not for Julie Burkhart a man with a gun gun could have shut down abortion access in Wichita for good. Do you feel like Julie is in the kind of danger that Dr Tiller was. Yes yes I do. The threat started before Julie even got the clinic reopened once the news. Got Out that abortion was coming back to Wichita that Julie was bringing it back. She started getting stalked a flyer with her photo and home address calling her a mass murderer encouraging people to go to her house that was distributed in her neighborhood antiabortion activists posted an audiotape online of the the man who murdered Dr Tiller but this time he was threatening Julie by name you know for someone to walk back. They're not famous. Julie Burkhart almost like putting a target on your back wealthier. They eventually Julie says she was getting death. Threats not just from behind bars from her front lawn. When the protesters protesters came into my neighborhood they were handing out these wanted style posters and they asked people to bring me to eternal life and I take that very seriously that you know the way we get to eternal life is through death at one point? This was the view from inside. Julie's house prepare to meet thy God. Where is your church? That veiled threat was not lost on Julie that someone might come hmm shoot her at church. Just like Duck Tiller Julius to court for a protective order against the pastor who she said was targeting her at work and at home. The pastor then turned around and sued Julie for a bunch of different things for defamation for abuse of process for malicious prosecution. A piece of that legal fight spun on for years. The trial didn't wrap up until October of this year. Julie's lawyer told the jury quote violence toward abortion. Providers isn't speculative Tiv- It is an abstract. This is real and the jury agreed Julie. One not a surprise to Julie. She was confident that she would win. but sitting in court listening to the trial. She couldn't stop herself from thinking about the time her old boss. Doctor George Tiller is in a similar spot when he got hold into court to defend himself in court from charges that wouldn't have existed if not for a relentless campaign by antiabortion activists. It's bent on stopping him from doing his job. And how one of the spectators in that courtroom Scott Roeder would be so galvanized by watching that spectacle tactical. She was my only. Tory would get so furious when the Wall came down on tillers side that he would murder him over it. Do you worry sorry that someone was sitting in that courtroom. Who's going to be the next Scott Roeder? Absolutely yes yeah. That's a live that's why I As much as I wanted to win sorry Sometimes I losing might be better. Chilly Burkhardt told us. She has tightened security at her home. That she is cautious She told us her. Her work is what she loves to do. She told us this specifically she says quote. I don't think any of us should be bullied out of what we do or what we love to do you. We'll be right back. When Justice Harry Blackmun wrote the Supreme Court decision that gave women in all fifty states access to legal abortion? He knew it was a landmark ruling but even though he was writing for a seven member majority on that court he knew it might not not stand forever. Do you think that Roe versus Wade stands the chance of being overturned. Oh I think any case up heroes done at a chance of being overturned I can't forecast at one way or another didn't may will be overruled. It'll that will depend primarily on the personnel of the court will depend on the personnel of the court. You might have noticed. There's been some some turnover in the personnel of the courtly with Donald Trump's two picks neal gorsuch and Brett cavenaugh. There is now a conservative antiabortion abortion majority on the court because of that America's abortion providers have been planning for a post row world thinking and talking mostly monks themselves about which states would be first to ban abortion and how they might develop ways to get women from those states to what they're calling haven states where abortion will remain legal if roe were overturned by the court tomorrow. These are the states that have laws already in place so that they could ban abortion right away so if it gets overturned at the court legal abortion could be gone in all of these states basically immediately that suddenly seems possible. It probably will not happen in the next year. But here's what could happen next year if the Supreme Court let's that Louisiana trap laws stand the one that's basically identical to the trop law. The court threw out in two thousand sixteen one that closed all those clinics in Texas if the new conservative majority in the Supreme Court. Let's the Louisiana in a loss stand. Here are the places where that kind of law would likely shut down the last clinic in the state. That's a reality. We could be living next year. I got in. The court is set to hear the Louisiana case next year and rule by June. And that's what Julie Burkhardt is planning for right now. The mission of the Foundation Julie Really created in Dr Tillers honor. The name of her clinics is trust. Women something Dr Taylor always used to say it's how he came to become an abortion provider himself in the mission of trust women which hangs on the walls and both clinics quote to open clinics that provide abortion care in underserved communities so that that all women can make their own decisions about their healthcare. There are more underserved communities. That Julia Burkhardt has her eye on. She's watching watching the court and watching the antiabortion activists who she knows will try to stop her but she's also planning our next move does oppress tonight. Thanks for being with us. The show weeknights at nine eastern on MSNBC. Hey It's Chris as you know sometimes it's good to just take a step back back from the day to day onslaught of news and take our broader. Look at the issues. That's what I'm doing each week. My podcast why is this happening. Were exploring topics ranging from school segregation to climate change. Well the way that I think it is climate change will be to the twenty first century. What maternity west of the nineteenth century? It'll be the central subject of questions about economic justice. 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Violence, threats have marked anti-abortion protest since day one

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Violence, threats have marked anti-abortion protest since day one

"The show on MSNBC good evening thanks for joining us this hour. Happy to have you with us. So we've been on the road we sent producers out across the country to pull together a really important story tonight about something that is happening right now with historic implications. The story here tonight begins with this guy. This is Harry. BLACKMUN was from Minnesota Conservative lawyer. Judge I appointed to the Federal Bench by Dwight Eisenhower he became Richard Nixon's second appointment to the United States. Supreme Court but black men was not Nixon's first choice for the job Nixon's I two picks had pro segregation records that got unearthed or dissect it during the confirmation process. Both of them were ultimately rejected by the Senate which which was a big an embarrassing blow for Nixon so for his third try. Nixon shows Harry Blackmun because Blackman was seen as so uncontroversial that he would be hard for anybody to vote against pledge. Blackman made a good first impression senators. Who help decide his fate? And barring the unexpected his nomination should sail through thus far. No one has even asked to testify against him but the unexpected already has occurred twice so most senators still are not committing themselves. The find a super uncontroversial Guy Strategy worked for that nomination Harry Blackman's nomination. The Nation to the court was unanimously approved by the US Senate. On June ninth nineteen seventy he was sworn in to the Supreme Court and somewhat ironically for for a guy who was chosen specifically because he was seen as the most middle of the Road non-offensive guaranteed noncontroversial guy to stick in that spot justice. BLACKMUN would go on just a couple of years later to write one of the most controversial. US Supreme Court opinions ever the court said seventy-two decision that the first three months of pregnancy. Only the woman and her physician may decide whether she may have an abortion in the second three months all the state may do is regulate abortion procedures and only in the final three months of pregnancy. Can the state forbid abortion course. All fifty states are effective whatever. Their loss wasn't a close decision. It was decided by a big majority right seventy two but it was Harry Blackmun who wrote the opinion for the seven-member majority and for that reason Harry Blackmun became the sort of face of that ruling. The face of ROE versus Wade five years after his death Justice Blackman's papers were released. And that's when we the public learned that Harry Blackmun saved everything everything thing in the fifteen hundred plus boxes of documents he donated to the Library of Congress. You can find everything from hotel receipts into tennis. Scores two dance cards from childhood private notes between the justices on the Supreme Court and it turns out. When you're the guy who wrote the Roe versus Wade decision and you were also a guy who keeps everything that means? You're a guy who has held onto a pile of hate mail and death wishes and threats ten years after Roe in Nineteen eighty-three according to reporting by the Associated Press. The Supreme Court had received forty five thousand letters about Roe versus swayed. Most of them addressed to justice. Blackmun Justice Blackmun set at the time quote. We still receive eight nine ten letters a day. Some are very supportive very lovely messages but most are very abusive. The more recent ones are as abusive as the initial ones ignoring the advice of fellow justices against reading such male Justice Justice Blackmun says. I want to know what the people who wrote are thinking. Here's what they were thinking quote. They have called him a murderer of butcher even punches pilot. They have compared him to the Nazi. Overseers of genocide in Nineteen eighty-five a bullet from a nine millimeter pistol was shot through justice. BLACKMON's apartment window into his living room showering glass onto his wife. Who Happen to be in the room? It was never determined if that bullet was directly targeting Justice Justice Blackmun or if it might have been a stray shot just coincidence but the shot through the window came on the heels of a series of death. Threats Justice Blackman's daughter has. He said he always traveled with security. After that Blackman they used to go alone on. Walks has been under protection since receiving a letter last fall all and another last week threatening him with death anti-abortion demonstrators of singled out black men for his authorship of the courts nineteen seventy-three decision decriminalising abortion Russian. That's how the modern day abortion wars have been fought in this country from day one from the Roe versus Wade decision onward with violence once and the threat of violence always hanging in the air when the Supreme Court cleared the way for legal abortion in every state clinic sprang up all over the country to accommodate women who were coming out of the shadows to access this now legally protected procedure defriend Redmond for an abortion but as quickly as abortion clinics open their doors organized opponents gathered trying to shut him down. After the Supreme Court legalized Elisa abortion and abortion clinic opened in Saint Louis anti-abortion groups have been picketing ever since they also got the legislature to throw up various roadblocks to abortion portion by the nineteen eighties and nineties. This is what it was like to be an abortion provider in America already. Many we have bulletproof glass and across the country there are more than thirty thousand escorts who have to use cloak and dagger measures to protect doctors clients and themselves a wave of clinic bombings that peaked in the nineteen eighties was followed by a series of assassinations in the nineteen nineties and abortion facility was hit by a bomb blast bomb blasts at three abortion clinics a propane. Gas bomb exploded last night in the Washington Office of the National Abortion Federation so far this this year twenty eight abortion clinics information centers have been bombed or set afire. Doctor David Gunn was shot after getting out of his car. He came to work at Pensacola abortion. Clinic Dr Dr Tiller who performs third trimester abortions had been shot twice outside his clinic. The gunman shot four people before escaping. Here one woman a clinic worker US Guide at the scene. Doctor John Britton and James Barrett were cut down with shotgun blasts Barnett Slepian an Amherst New York doctor. Well known to anti-abortion protestors was shot dead by a sniper last night while at home with his wife and four children. You could not find an abortion provider in the eighties nineties. Who would say felt immune from the threat of terroristic violence? Everyone involved in abortion was vulnerable. But perhaps no one was targeted. It s relentlessly as one specific doctor in Wichita Kansas Doctor George Tiller for two months antiabortion. Protesters laid siege aged clinics in Wichita Kansas but their main target was not the thinning. It was adopted. Dr George Toa. They called him tiller. The killer tillers still performs abortion but hundreds of other doctors have stopped because of scenes like this. And this the antiabortion forces targeted Dr Tiller in every way imaginable in nineteen eighty six. His clinic was bombed Tiller. Hung a sign outside had the bombed-out buildings that said Hell No. We won't go. He reopened the next day at a secret location. We've had a major hundred thousand dollar bombing here in our organization and one day later we're in business in one thousand nine hundred one. The radical anti-abortion group group operating rescue called on thousands of antiabortion activists from across the country to converge on Wichita to physically shutdown. George tillers clinic. Wichita is not used to guerrilla tactics. But it's learning people here have seen weeks of militant antiabortion protests barricading clinics harassing think patients using children as human shields eventually the radical fringe of the antiabortion movement turned to a chilling new tactic to isolate and target. Doctors wanted posters that cast abortion doctors as murderers and gave anyone who might wish them harm literal instructions on how to find those doctors. There was a wanted poster targeting Doctor David Gunn before he was murdered. It showed his photo the make and model and license license plate number on his car. It showed the addresses of each of his offices that was a wanted poster targeting. Doctor John Britton before he was murdered. The photo even shows him wearing a bulletproof vest it lists information about his car and includes his home address. Here's a wanted poster of Doctor George Tiller that we believe circulated in the early nineties. It compares him to Adolf Hitler. It shows his photo city where he lives and his exact office address on August nineteenth. Nineteen ninety-three an antiabortion activist named Shelley. Shannon walked up to doctor George Tiller the parking lot of the address on that poster and she shot him for the second time this year. An abortion doctor has been shot apparently by an antiabortion activist this time. The doctor survived the attack. Dr Tiller was taken to the hospital and treated. He returned to his clinic to work the next day. You know I'm just like my patients you know last night got shot and I was scared but there was somebody there to take care of me. Shelley Shannon shooting did not stop doctor. George Tiller what did do you WANNA do stopping from King. Maybe but getting caught and convicted and sentenced thrown in prison did not stop Shelley Shannon from believing that she did the right thing and that she was and could continue to be an important part of a movement that embraces violence as as a means to end abortion in America there is a pro violence wing of the antiabortion movement. These people see themselves as soldiers in an actual world war. They call themselves the Army of God assassinating abortion doctors and their view is justifiable homicide going to jail for murdering during an abortion. Doctor is seen as a noble sacrifice before she shot Dr Tiller Shelley Shannon wrote warm approving letters to the man who killed Dr Doctor David Gunn in Florida she wrote to him in jail as he awaited trial when she went on to commit her own act of violence that began the next chapter of her life life as a hero soldier in the Army of God her prison term would stop her from personally carrying out any further violence but it couldn't stop her from inspiring during the next would be assassin. Meanwhile in Wichita Dr Tiller kept on with his work you simply cannot retreat. When you're committed there is no way that we are going to be forced out of this particular more correct legal healthcare experience outside of the Army of God manifestos from dark corners of the Internet? Some of the most radical language used against George Tiller was piped into millions of homes on a regular basis. Thanks to a television host on the Fox Fox News Channel killing babies in America. That's a subject of this evening's talking points memo for Five Thousand Dollars Tiller. The baby killer is some call. Him will perform a late term abortion for just about any reason this man. Doctor George Tiller known as Tiller the baby killer is performing term abortions without defining the specific medical reasons reasons walk in two thousand two an antiabortion state legislator named Phil Kline was elected attorney. General for the state of Kansas. I want I tell you you who does not endorse attorney. General Phill Kline abortionist doctor. George Tiller does not endorse line in two thousand thousand eleven. A producer from this show asked for his thoughts on abortion yourself believe that abortion should be made illegal dwi myself. Put a comment about that. I'm also anti murderer. And I put a Lotta murders way too. I followed almost immediately upon taking office as Kansas State. Attorney General Phill. Kline started a secret investigation into George Tiller. He used subpoena power to get dozens of patient. Medical records in defiance of a judge's order are keeping the patient's identity secret Klein staff staked out Dr Tillers parking lot. They followed patients took down license plate numbers they subpoenaed a nearby nearby hotel for records. That helped them unredacted. These patients medical records to get the patients names. All of this was in pursuit of something. Something to use against George Tiller something to charge him when but it also sent a message to women and girls in Kansas. If you try to get an abortion here you could be the the subject of an investigation by the State Attorney General Style. Get his hands on your personal medical records. All of them Klein alternately got his license to practice. Does Law Yanked by the state of Kansas for misconduct in his pursuit of Dr till learn. All of his efforts against Tiller ultimately yielded a misdemeanor case rock doc. By climbs successor over how Tiller referred patients for a state mandated second opinion in certain abortions on March twenty seven two thousand nine nine following years of investigations. After four days of testimony. It took jurors all of forty five minutes to clear George Tiller of all charges but two months later Dr Tiller was dead. tillers murderer had been sitting in that courtroom watching that trial watching the justice system exonerate. George George Tiller. You can see him here. Sitting next to the president of Operation Rescue two months later he would walk into the church. George Tiller attended walked in on a Sunday morning. He held the begun to tell her head and the executed him at point blank range. According to the killer Scott Roeder. He'd been thinking about killing George Tiller for years but it was the result of that trial George tillers acquittal of all those misdemeanor charges that motivated him them to actually go through with it to actually do. It seemed like that was the last attempt by the state of Kansas to find if there was was anything at all going on illegally in George tillers clinic and it seems as though that was the last step now he was acquitted. Did you decide. It was a company. Pon You to do something. There was nothing being done and the a legal processes have been exhausted and these babies were dying every day and I felt it if if someone did not and do something he was going to continue awarding children and So I felt opted. I needed to act and quickly for those children. Scott Roeder did not get to this point of radicalization overnight. According to his ex wife you become involved in the antiabortion movement in the nineteen ninety s he protested at clinics including Dr Tillers he'd tried to superglue the lock shut on another Kansas Clinic. It also visited Shelley Shannon in prison on the day. He murdered Dr Tiller when he he was arrested that day after the shooting. A scrap of paper was found in his getaway car on that scrap of paper was written the phone number of the top operation. Rescue official Roeder testified at his murder trial that he learned about Dr Tillers Security Protocols from Operation Rescue Scott Roeder. The murderer of Doctor George Tiller Ciller was not a lone wolf. He was the product of violent radical antiabortion network look when I was in the pro-life movement we knew who who was gluing doors shut. We knew vandalizing property We knew of people who had thrown firebombs. We knew of course people who were in jail. Most of these pro-life groups have the group of people always on the French who are hanging around a more extreme than others who they know who've been involved in acts of violence and petty theft. Maybe a firebombing this or that it's time to begin to blow the whistle on these guys had that happen with Scott Roeder. Dr Tiller would not have been murdered understand when he was tried for the murder of Dr Tiller Ciller. It took a jury all thirty seven minutes to decide that they would convict Scott Roeder and with that. The trial was over the national media attention. Attention faded in Wichita is left to grapple with the aftermath of this act of terrorism. Without George Tiller there was no abortion provider left in this the city and that might have been but tillers friends and family and supporters decided that they would do what they had seen. George Tiller do time and again they would overcome the fear and intimidation and violence. And come back. Hey Everyone Steve Kornacki here i WanNa tell you about an NBC News. PODCAST hosted called article two inside impeachment. It's exclusively dedicated into bringing you the latest developments on the impeachment of president trump. I talked to NBC News reporters who are closest to the story to break down. What's new? What matters what it means for the twenty twenty election and our country new episodes drop every Monday Wednesday and Friday search? Now wherever you're listening to this podcast subscribe for Free George. Tillers father was also Dr a prominent Wichita family practice doctor in one thousand nine hundred seventy tillers father along with his mother. His sister Mr and his brother-in-law were all killed in a plane crash. After that crash George Tiller left the Navy to head back to Wichita or he and his wife adopted his infant nephew and where he intended to wind down and eventually close up. His father's practice in Wichita but then something happened patients. It started asking the younger Dr Tiller if he was going to take care of women the way his father had done this was before Roe versus Wade abortion. At the time I'm was illegal and Kansas. I was horrified because the only thing worse than a woman that would request an abortion. Was the physician would do the abortion so I was outraged. These nice people and then my mom that my dad had been provided quality healthcare for over an extended period of time. Say that he was breath. SCUMBAG position Tiller had thought that his father had done one or two abortions over the course of his career but after he took over his father's family practice he learned. It was much more than one or two. Here's what happened in nineteen forty five forty six forty seven. You're a young woman. For whom data already delivered two. Babies came to a pregnant again right away and she said something hoping to the effect that I can't take it. Can you help me. And those are the two common denominators that apparently the way you ask for a Eh and abortion from your regular doctor before abortion was legal. Dad said no big time is revoked. By the time the baby gets her everything will I'll be alright. She went out had non healthcare provider. Abortion came back ten days to two weeks later and died I don't know how many abortions he did but the women and my father's Practice for whom he did abortions educated me and taught me abortion is a matter of survival for women. And so George Tiller state in Wichita in his father's practice in the same building he expanded it. He rebuilt it after. It was bombed in the nineteen eighty s and the nineteen nineties. The Supreme Court Decision Planned Parenthood v Casey paved the way for states hostile to abortion rights to push through onerous new restrictions targeting abortion clinics in response Tiller added a new wing to the clinic with massive operating rooms designed to meet the specifications of an ambulatory surgical center. Even though most abortions can be done safely just in a doctor's Office for more than thirty years if everything from vandalism and blockades walk Hades to threats and violence to the full force of the State Government Being Leveraged Against Him George Tiller was finally silenced when Scott Rotor shot him in the head on May thirty first two thousand nine nine days later tillers family announced that they would not reopen the clinic. Dr Taylor was the city's only abortion provider so his death ended abortion access in Wichita and that had a real practical an immediate immediate effect on all the women who had come to rely on Tiller and on this particular clinic for this kind of care. antiabortion forces in Wichita were adamant it about keeping the clinic closed in the wake of tillers murder keeping Wichita abortion free late in two thousand ten more than a year after Tiller death and more than a year after the clinic closed. The Associated Press reported that two doctors and Kansas were training to become abortion providers. Those doctors names were or leaks to the a p by the antiabortion movement and the AP decided to print their names and the threats and intimidation and harassment began immediately. One one of those two doctors was Dr Myla means. She chose to share her story with US among others after she was outed by the AP her landlord sued her to stop her from adding abortion service to her primary care practice. He threatened to kick her out to end her office lease if she did any abortions out her medical practice doctor means means was picketed at her home and her office even prospective locations. She was rumored to be considering relocating to those were targeted to antiabortion abortion activists distributed a wanted style flyer with her photo and exact address calling her murderer and encouraging people to confront her at her office fest in her home. She got a letter warning her. That someday somebody was going to put a bomb under her car. Some mile means and the other doctor who were trying to bring bring abortion back as a medical service to Wichita. After the murder of Dr Tiller ended it. They weren't successful. The intimidation and threats and harassment worked worked as intended and Wichita remained without a provider. But then came Julie. Burkhardt Julie had worked for Dr Tiller for years and up until until his murder on legislative policy and as the clinic spokesperson. She like everyone in. Dr Tillers orbit was devastated by his murder. Angry angry at what it meant for her city. She was also quietly determined to bring abortion back to Wichita women here need you to be able to have access to Obgyn care that includes abortion care. You know why living in this part of the country should women be denied those services. The vast majority of the people who I work with here. We're we're from this part of the country so this is our our places. Well I think it says a lot for for our nation that we are not going to tolerate these extremists and we will ensure that women have rights no matter where we live in two thousand twelve three years after Dr Tiller was assassinated Julie. Burkhardt bought tillers old clinic and right away the network of antiabortion listen activists who had just successfully fought back those other two doctors who had been trying to reinstate abortion access in Wichita right away when Julie early bought tillers clinic. They came for her. They tried twice to get the land. The clinic sits on rezoned so medical facility could operate there. They held protests outside our house house and of course they distributed wanted style posters with her photo and her personal information is scary to have this distributed. And have your home address in your Andrew Picture. Well it's something that I take very seriously we communicate regularly with law enforcement sment So it's something that we take very seriously but it will not deter us it will not deter US coming up next. This is what it looks like when your job makes you the target for a whole radical movement of people who are bent on stopping you who see this as a war and you is their enemy. I remember when Dr Tiller was assassinated. I was in my first year of medical school. I was in a women's health elective actually only when I found out And I I don't know if that just like planted the seed in my head but I will always remember that moment And I come come here. Now is an abortion provider. I see my patients who have been cared for in the past by Dr Tiller. I see nurses and volunteers and so many people know him and it's inspiring but it's also scary I know no I think about it all the time Especially when I'm sort of out and about I'm flying or I'm pulling into Clinic Room Hotel I. I don't want to tell my Uber driver. What I'm doing here in January two thousand thirteen Julie Burkhardt was camped out at the site of George tillers shuddered clinic surrounded by contractors and a crew of lawyers and activists intent on bringing abortion? Access back to Wichita now six years later. They've accomplished that. And then some when she said out to reopen it Julie Burkhardt was not sure anyone would want to come to this clinic again. The place for decades have been the epicenter of America's often violent abortion wars But like George Tiller had always said women need abortions and people did come to the clinic in fact so many people came the three years after she got Dr Tillers Clinic. Back up and running again in Wichita. Julia opened another clinic three hours south in Oklahoma City. It was a fight to get each clinic. DOC Open most days. Julie says it still feels like a fight to keep them open between these two states. We we have. We have things coming at us all the time whether it's protesters what the state legislatures want to do you. What we have going on You know running through the judiciary There might be patient issues funding issues Physician recruitment issues. People still. Don't want to necessarily come to Wichita people still ten years after Dr Tillers assassination. Still View Wichita is being this very violent volatile community. You and I get that but it makes it difficult for us in terms of recruiting doctors. I still don't have any physicians. Who live in Wichita or living in Oklahoma City so all these years later we still fly people in all these years later we still fly people in just a fly? Doctors is in to Wichita and Oklahoma City every week to see patients Angela. Martian is one of those doctors. I'm from the Mid West West so I had thought of moving back to the Mid West. I don't feel that it's safe for me to go to live in a place where ah I would constantly be under threat of violence or harm so you don't you wouldn't feel safe living in Wichita in working here. This setup were clinics. Do not have in town doctors. This is very common in the states. Where abortion access already most vulnerable in at least half a dozen an Republican led states where there are very few or even just one remaining clinic? The atmosphere is seen as so hostile to abortion providers that clinics are not able to find find any local doctors. Who will do the job just like Julius doing? They fly doctors in from other states. And that makes those clinics even more vulnerable to shutdown by the very creative and aggressive antiabortion forces working out of various republican-controlled state legislatures. There's a whole class of laws known this trap. Laws T. R. A. targeted regulations against abortion providers. These laws are basically increasingly baroque deliberately shortly. Onerous regulations that are designed for one purpose to shut down abortion clinics because clinics. Aren't supposed to be able to comply with these requirements. One of the more in fashion trop laws of the past several years as a rule requiring abortion doctors to have admitting privileges at a nearby hospital wherever wherever they're practicing. There's no medical reason for this. Abortion is a relatively safe low risk procedure that in most cases can be done in a doctor's office complications that require hospitalization. ospel ization are very rare and even in those very rare cases. The doctor who performs the procedure doesn't need admitting privileges to send a patient to the hospital. In a place like Wichita or Oklahoma City for the doctors do not live in states where they do abortions. It's impossible for them to get admitting privileges at the local hospital. But that's of course the point. The point is not that doctors should be able to get those privileges. The point of these laws is that doctors won't get them and so that can be used as an excuse to legally Bam that doctor from performing abortions or to shut down the clinics where they would have done. So we've we've seen this play out in Texas in two thousand thirteen. The republican state government their past and admitting privileges trap law as a result half the clinics. The Knicks in that state were forced to shut down three years later. The Supreme Court throughout that trap lawn in Texas in a five three decision that ruled that it did nothing to protect women's health but it did put substantial burden on women's ability to access abortion about law was overturned since then though president trump has made to new appointments midst to the US Supreme Court. And now there's a big flashing red light warning sign that the new conservative majority Supreme Court wants to take another look at this particular Gillibrand of trop law. The court has now taken up a virtually identical trop lot to the Texas when they threw out this from Louisiana the case is set to be decided by the Supreme Court in June expectation. Is that this. Newly constituted court will change course on that trop la the expectation is that they're going to say that TROP LA is okay. Okay now even if the result is the immediate wholesale shutdown of clinics so in Chile Burkhardt says she feels like there's opposition coming at her all the time this is part of what she means first. antiabortion threats and terrorism and violence have made her city an unsafe place for local doctors to practice abortion so her work around is flying doctors in from out of state but now the new conservative majority on the Supreme Court looks poised to use that very fact that she can't get local doctors that are clinics as a reason to shut her down to end abortion in Wichita again moorhead tonight in this special report. Stay with us. Carl Swinney has a desk job office hours or eight to five most days. Some days are slower than others But that's about where Carl Sweeney's desk jobs stops being a normal desk job Because while he does desk his desk sits opposite of metal detector her and he wears a gun on his hip. Carl swinney works for Julia. Burkhardt at trust women clinic in Wichita Kansas. He's the facilities coordinator there which that means. He's in charge of keeping the staff at that clinic safe as well as the patients. Who Go there for healthcare? Carl worked for Dr Tillers Clinic to he was the security guard At Dr Tillers clinic up until the day Tiller was shot at his church. Carl remembers seeing the man who killed his boss. He had come the clinic when Dr Tiller worked there. You'd seen Scott Roeder here. I'd seen him. You got me as forty setting court or so I heard it He was asked why he didn't uh try to shoot him here. Instead of in Church and usual guard had a gun. Thought I wonder why these days Mr Swinney Still has his gun. Man's the lobby at the clinic. He signs in the patients. He keeps an eye on the protesters protesters making sure. They don't get too close. There are fewer protesters than there. Were in the tiller days but they can still get aggressive. Sometimes they stand in the parking lot a drive by the entrance back and forth back and forth the threat they pose still feels like a very live one. Because it's hard to tell who's just a guy with a sign and could be the next Scott Ritter. Carl says he keeps an eye out for what he calls the problem people in Kansas today. A woman who shot a doctor who performed perform abortions was sentenced to eleven years in prison Rachelle Shannon was convicted in March of attempted murder in last summer's attack on doctor. George Tiller Schol Shelley Shannon went to prison for trying to murder Dr Tiller a federal judge called her a terrorist and said she was even a threat behind bars but that that was twenty five years ago. Shelley Shannon is not behind bars anymore right now. She's out Shannon was let out of prison last year on supervised sized release the assistant. US Attorney who prosecuted her case said quote she's completely unreal habilitated. She has the same mentality and goals else that she had when she was convicted. Abortion providers across the country expressed alarm when Shannon was let out of prison not just because she herself itself could cause more violence but because she could inspire it too so carl keeps a picture of Shelley Shannon on the wall next to his desk. Her head shot hangs behind reception so everyone on staff knows exactly what she looks like to because who knows if she might decide to come back. Dr Tiller of course will not be there if there is a next time but the clinic is still a clarion symbol for the aggressive radical antiabortion movement movement that has targeted his clinic and the reason that clinic has remained symbol. The reason that clinic is still there at all still serving. Kansas women is Julie Burkhardt. Julia is not just the face of abortion services in Wichita after that famous doctor was killed. She's the reason. Abortion services exist in Wichita at all were it not for Julia Burkhart. A man with a gun could have shut down abortion access in Wichita for good. Do you feel like AAC. Julie is in danger that Dr Tiller was yes to yes I do. The threats started before Julia even got the clinic reopened once the news. Got Out that abortion was coming back to Wichita that Julie was bringing it back. She started getting stalked a flyer with her photo and home address calling her a mass murderer and encouraging people to go to her house that was distributed in her neighborhood hood antiabortion activists posted an audiotape online of the man who murdered Dr Tiller but this time he was threatening Julie by name it is a little bit. That's fine the persona to walk back in there. You think over famous Julie Burkhard Saddam almost like a target on your back eventually. Julia says she was getting death. Threats not just just from behind bars from her front lawn. When the protesters came into my neighborhood they were handing out these wanted style posters and they asked people to bring me to eternal life and I take that very seriously that you know the way we get to eternal life is through at one point? This was the view from inside. Julie's house prepare to meet thy God. Where is your church? That veiled threat was not lost on Julie that someone might come shoot her at church. Just like Dr Tiller Julius to court for a protective order order against the pastor who she said was targeting her at work and at home the pastor then turned around and sued Julie for a bunch of different things for defamation. Mm for abuse of process for malicious prosecution. A piece of that legal fight spun on for years. The trial didn't wrap up until October of this year. Julie's lawyer earlier told the jury quote violence toward abortion. Providers isn't speculative is an abstract this is real and the jury agreed Julie One one not a surprise Julie. She was confident that she would win. But sitting in court listening the trial. She couldn't stop herself from thinking about the time her old boss. Doctor George Tiller a similar spot when he too got hauled into court when he too had to defend himself in court from charges that wouldn't have existed existed if not for a relentless campaign by antiabortion activists bent on stopping him from doing his job. And how one of the spectators tator in that courtroom Scott Roeder would be so galvanized by watching that spectacle only target would get so furious when the Wall came down on tillers side that he would murder him over it. Do you worry that someone was sitting in that courtroom. WHO's GonNa be the next Scott Roeder? Absolutely yes yeah that's alive that's why I As much because I wanted to win. Sorry sometimes. I thought losing might be better. Julie Burkhart Carte told us she has tightened security at her home that she is cautious. But she told us her. Her work is what she loves to do. She told us this. Specifically she says quote. I don't think any of us should be bullied out of what we do. Our what we love to do. So we'll be right back. Justice Justice Harry Blackmun wrote the Supreme Court decision that gave women in all fifty states access to legal abortion. He knew it was a landmark ruling but even though he was in writing for a seven member majority on that court he knew it might not stand forever. Do you think that Roe versus Wade stands the chance of being overturned. Oh I think in any case appear always stand a chance of being overturned I can't forecast stat one way or another it. It may will be overruled. It'll that will depend primarily on The personnel of the court. It will depend on the personnel of the court. You might have noticed There's been some turnover in the personnel of the court. Lately with Donald Trump's two picks neal gorsuch pitch and Brett cavenaugh. There is now a conservative anti abortion majority on the court because of that America's abortion providers have been planning for for a post row world thinking talking mostly amongst themselves about which states would be first to ban abortion and how they might develop ways to get women from those states to what they're calling haven states where abortion will remain legal if roe were overturned by the court tomorrow. These are the states that have laws already in place that they could ban abortion right away so roget's overturned at the court. Legal abortion could be gone in all of these states basically basically immediately that suddenly seems possible. It probably will not happen in the next year. But here's what could happen next. Steer if the Supreme Court let's Louisiana Trap laws stand the one that's basically identical to the trump law court throughout in two thousand sixteen one that closed all those clinics in Texas if the new conservative majority in the Supreme Court. Let's the Louisiana Law stand. Here are the places where that kind of law would likely shut down the last clinic in the state. That's a reality. We could be living next year. Got In the court is set to hear the Louisiana case next year and ruled by June. And that's what Julia Burkhardt is planning for right now. The mission of the Foundation Julia created in Dr Tillers honor. The name of her clinics is trust. Women something Dr Taylor always used to say it's how he came to become an abortion provider himself the mission of trust women which hangs on the walls and both clinics is quote to open open clinics that provide abortion care in underserved communities so that all women can make their own decisions about their healthcare are more under underserved communities. That Julia Burkhardt has her eye on. She's watching the court and watching the antiabortion activists who she knows will try to stop her. She's also planning our next move. Doesn't press tonight. Thanks for being with us. 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Episode 473 | Managing Annual Subscriptions, Low-price vs. High, Being a Non-Developer Founder, and More Listener Questions with Laura Roeder

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Episode 473 | Managing Annual Subscriptions, Low-price vs. High, Being a Non-Developer Founder, and More Listener Questions with Laura Roeder

"Welcome to this week's episode of startups for the rest of us. I'm your host rob walling. This is a show where we talk about building ambitious yet saint startups. And this week. I had a great time answering listener questions with Laura Road from meet Edgar. We talked through questions about managing annual subscriptions going low priced versus high being a non developer founder and we talked through more listener questions. This has started for the rest of US episode. Four hundred seventy three up to the rest of us. The podcast helps developers designers and entrepreneurs the ultimate building launching growing startups. The with you built your fifth startup. Or you're thinking about your I. I'M ROB and today with Laura Rotor. WE'RE GONNA share experiences to help you. Avoid the mistakes made welcome back to the show. This is the show where we focus on indie funded and self funded startups folks. Who Want to do interesting things and are ambitious and want to build themselves a better life but also want to build companies beneath that that grow and starting a company as hard and having this community of people who are going through the same thing that you are and having that sense of belonging and knowing that it's possible be that there's a place where we can all hang out and just get each other and where you don't go in and explain what you do and everyone looks at you funny? There's a tremendous amount of value to that and that was a big reason why we started this podcast. Almost ten years ago back in twenty ten startups for the rest of us has many episode formats. Bats sometimes I just have conversations with folks do interviews now and again we do founder hot seats but one of my favorite episode formats is listener questions and we've answered a a tremendous number of listener questions over the years we've had a lot of episodes on this and it's just the gift that keeps on giving because it's time for listeners to participate and to hear what other folks are going through and to hear the thought process of a couple of founders. Typically who who've been there and done some things and it's not that we've been through everything that they ask about but you can at least hear that thought process of how we approach it and over the years we've always received positive feedback about this episode format format but before we dive in. I WanNa let you know that at Microsof- we are making an announcement next week. It is by far the biggest announcement that we have made since we launched the event nine years ago. It is coincidental that the twentieth Microsoft is going to be on April twentieth of Twenty Twenty so the twentieth during in the twenty s or whatever. But but that's not the announcement obviously already mentioned that Microsoft Growth and starter are in Minneapolis in late. April of twenty twenty. But if you're not on the micro conflict that encourage could you to Microsoft dot com enter your email and we'll loop UN as soon as we have we have the info it really is pretty spectacular. And you probably know me well enough by now to know that that. I'm not trying to inflate the importance of it today. I answered questions with founder. Laura Road if you don't remember Laura. I interviewed her in episode. Four fifty one. She runs meet Edgar which is a social media management SAS APP and in four fifty. One we talked about stellar growth platform arm risk layoffs and powering through roadblocks. It was a really really good interview and Laura knows her stuff. I have a ton of respect for her and honestly I always love getting on the mic and just chatted with her Super Fun. I had fun. Inner interviewing four fifty one and I had a great time talking to her today and hearing her insights and her take on some of your questions nations so without further ado. Let's dive in law rotor. Thank you so much for coming back on the show I love startups for the rest of us. I cannot stay away awesome. I'm so stoked to have you on to answer some questions. You've actually submitted questions in the past. So it's cool to have you on on the other side of the of the earbud so to speak so so we have some good questions today as always voicemails go to the top of the stack. I curated some questions that I think you should have some unique insight on and will let's it's just roll right into the first voice mail which is about being a nontechnical founder and how to make good technical decisions Hi this is Matt from the U. K.. I've got a question. I'm looking for advice for nontechnical founder. How can they avoid Gingko by poor oh decisions from the technical team or just not knowing about the consequences of the equations to get made to create this offer any advice to be great? Thanks so this is an interesting in question. Laura as a nontechnical yourself. I'm curious what your initial take is so I would. I like to take umbrage with the phrase is with a phrase nontechnical founder. Obviously I know what he's referring to. Non Technical founder means that you are not a developer and I'm not as developer but I always think it's funny because I'm like I run a software company. It doesn't seem quite right to To call me nontechnical but you know this is a very real L. problem for all of us who are running software companies and are not developers. Because obviously you are not intimately familiar millier with a really core part of of what your company does so I mean I guess the first thing it just sort of blanket advice for this is is that you really need to have a person in that. CTO role who you trust one hundred percent and I mean I think this goes for any leadership role in your business. But it's especially important in this case because you're not going to be able to provide provide so much oversight you know anyone can look at a customer service email and say okay. That was not how we want to answer. But you really can't read code. If if you're not a coder so I mean I think that's just sort of stopped. One is make sure that the person in that job leadership role. You're you're willing to play one hundred percent faith in them. Yeah that's that's what I was gonNA say as well is even if you are in a place where you can have a cto the fact that he used the phrase. How do I don't get called out a you know it's like does your team not trust you or do you feel like you have to make decisions that are out of your league because I would almost? That's an interesting turn of phrase. It implies that like the team calls him out for making technical decisions. But it's like are you making decisions. You shouldn't be since you're not a developer. So I would I would dig into that but I think having that senior whether it's a CTO. You're the senior divers somebody that's that really is making decisions in the best interest of the company and it gives a huge deal. Yeah and I think it also brings stop that. You shouldn't try to pretend to be anything you're not right this. If people are calling you out does it mean that you're burson me like you know things that you don't know or maybe making decisions that would be better for other people in the company to make an. I think it's just important to to be unafraid. To ask really stupid really basic questions until you understand some of these core concepts mm steps related to writing code right. I mean you you can decide sort of how much you feel. You need to know for me. I feel like I've been through this process recently. Big Time with our finance team. Understanding all the financials of the business I just ask our finance person over and over and over again. Sometimes I'll literally read a book. I read a finance book recently and I just wrote down questions for her and the margins and then I'm like I want you to read this book to. We're going to have a call together or I'm GonNa ask you all of my questions about about the book and I think that's a great thing to do for technical questions as well. You know you need to be open with your team about what you know. And don't know and I think it's important for you to work with the type of person that is very patient and very understanding in explaining things to you you. You know within reason you don't need to understand every detail. There are a lot of concepts that are probably familiar to you that you do need to understand at least sort of the basics of how the sausage edge you get some aid I guess I like your example because as a founder. You don't need to know every single thing about bookkeeping and accounting and finance. But you should probably know enough enough to be able to ask the right questions and I feel the same way running a software company that. I don't think you should be able to code everything in a SAAS APP. But maybe it's worth worth going through a code code camps or maybe it's worth on the side taking you to classes. I mean it's easier than ever to learn just really basic level of coding and knowledge. Such that yes you'll never be able to architectural decisions. You won't make the senior level things but you can at least relate to. Oh this is what code is this is how it works. This is what it's like to write a bug and spent four hours not realizing that it's the semi colon that's what development you know what it is and so having that cursory knowledge and being able to then ask ask the right questions is is what you're touching on. That's that's what I like about it. Yes so WH- nontechnical. You don't like the nontechnical founder if you're a developer and you're reading the code then you're like a developer founder. Is it a non developer founder. Is there a term that you prefer the nontechnical. Then I guess maybe you just say founder right and then when you're explaining later sort of your your side of the business because you also don't call like you just said developer founder. But I've never heard anyone actually say that right. They would just like it just making up a new job to try not to say technical and non because typically it's technical and non technical I think are the two terms people use and I was just trying to think of a different way to say that because you're right running a saas APP. Yes you may not code but you are more technical than most than most people we now just because by nature of being. So it's it is a misnomer but if someone someone wanted to differentiate between like Derek and I when we started drip like he was literally in the code every day and I was literally not in the code every day. And I don't know I don't know how else you differentiate that or what phrase we could come up with. It wouldn't feel Seattle feel like nontechnical founder is a pejorative. I don't feel like it's negative. Does it have a stigma. Do you feel like it. Does I actually think it does have a little bit of a stigma. Because I've heard people I heard people obviously developers use it. Use It in that way before where we're kind of not as cool of founder thought. Is that sucks. I don't use it that way but if it if it gets that connotation than yeah we need to to figure out another another phrase for it so cool well thanks. Thanks for the question. I hope that was helpful. We're GONNA bounce into our second question which is also voicemail. It's about a founder. WHO's is launching a second SAS APP? They're nearing launch and he's concerned about potential lawsuits. Hello this is Thomas from Australia. I listen to the show for a long time and wanted to tell you. It's really great content. I love following along. you're you're journeys and also hear stories of other people in Kinda similar situations to my question. I have founded a Saas Company. Three two years ago rights invoicing solution for small independent car repair shops. It's doing pretty okay. I can live with and it slowly growing. So I'm I'm happy that about half a year ago. I founded another company with a Patna Andrea Building. Software to compare prices for car are pots nodded. We want to go to market with this substrata suppliers that tier of US trying to fight US pretty hot so I think I think we have to go to court like several times. There is not really a legal problem with fetching the prices because we do it locally on the customer computer computer and Dan not going through our systems but still they can make our lives miserable if they pull us to court all the time now. I'm I'm not really sure how to go along. My partner really wants to push through that and he's shoot at it will work out. I'm also pretty sure that it will work out in the end. But I'm I'm not sure if I'm the right kind of person to spend the next one to three years fighting big companies so so I wanted to hear your thoughts on that and maybe what you would do in this situation. Thank you so Thomas also wrote in and he said he wanted to clarify that. He hasn't spent any money on the new project. The price comparison project and they have a small private investor but in essence he has only invested his time so far so I should preface this with. We're not legal experts. We don't give legal advice. Obviously but it's more of. Hey if I were in your shoes how would I think through this so this is an interesting situation and I'm not sure it's one I've heard before what. What do you think about those Laura so the way I think of it is just there are pros and cons with every business every every business model and it's really smart to go into a business with your eyes wide open about those pros and cons so from what I understood stood from his message? This is a likely threat. Not a certain threat you know. He suspects that there is going to be lawsuits. He has good reason to. I believe that's going to happen or it could not happen at all so it makes me think Gov with my business meet Edgar. We are entirely entirely dependent on the social networks. And you can listen to my interview on this podcast on startups with the rest of us. I talked about a big problem. We had because of that. But all businesses have upsides downsides. You know for me. I know that I'm in a space where I'm totally dependent on these partners that I have no relationship with an annette can do whatever they want. That's a downside to my business. The big upside is I'm building on facebook. Twitter and instagram obviously very popular tools lots of users so I think that he just needs to know this going in at. Maybe it's something that you budget for. It's good not to be scared of it right. It's good to go in and say okay you know. I know that this will likely happen. Maybe we have money set aside for it. Maybe we've already figured out. Who are lawyer is so they can jump right in? And we won't be surprised and spending a few months just trying to find good counsel so it to me. It doesn't sound like a deal breaker because it might might not even happen at all but yeah like you said you have to know that that is a battle that you could be fighting and you just you have to know that. That's something that you want to sign up for like the way you're thinking about it. I think these unknowns like if you've never received a cease and desist or you've never you you know received frankly been sued. It's super scary. You don't you don't know what that entails. I got sued by a patent troll about probably five eight years ago but it was literally a blanket it was about control with someone who sued one hundred people at once for like having online invoicing software is what it was. It was just this crazy. It's like what he sued. Everybody that does online invoicing because it was a ridiculous patent and I gotta be honest. I was super scared the day I got the email and then I quickly realized I talked to a lawyer and someone. Who's just like this? Just isn't that big a deal and we have these stigmas against things and lawsuits can be a big deal and they can be expensive. But your point of it's it's almost like tried to demystify or de risk or just get more familiar with what this might look like typically if you were to launch something like this. You're not going to get five lawsuits the next day. Right from five suppliers your prob. It's probably going to be weeks months. And then you're GONNA they're gonNA grumble and they're going to call you or send you an email and then you might get a cease and desist and it's like think it would be a long process and maybe like you said you set aside money to either have a lawyer whether it's to go to court or whether it's to to try to negotiate settlements it's or whether there's a lot of options here I think this comes back to expertise. It's like as a non lawyer. You should have the probably ask the right. Know How to ask the right questions uh-huh but you're not the expert in how this should all go down. There's folks who can give you advice if you find a if you find a good counsel and I think the biggest question for me is is. Is this a big idea like is this is a seven figure idea or an eight figure idea. That's worth going through all of this for it or is it something. That's going to generate five K.. A month in which case personally doesn't sound like it would really be worth it. I mean maybe I would launch it and if if if it's a couple thousand dollars a month or five K.. A month and and you start getting cease and desist. Well maybe that's the point where you're like okay. I guess I'm GonNa pull the plug on this. You know. Maybe that's the best decision because it just doesn't make enough money or maybe that is your defense of it doesn't make enough money and it's not worth anything so I think that's really an early question I'd be asking not not. Is it worth it but is the is the idea big enough. Do you think the company it can be big enough to make it worth fighting for. Yeah and I think it's also worth a quick Google so I think he said he's an Austria. He didn't say if the business business would also be dealing with Austrian suppliers. You know America is very litigious. Most of Europe is is not and you can't just file random lawsuits about anything the way you can in America. So if that's where my business I would be. You can figure out a pretty good amount just from educating yourself on the Internet would the suppliers have any sort of case because if they wouldn't that's also just make the whole thing much more unlikely. Yep so thanks for the question Thomas. I hope that was helpful. And depending on what happens I'd love to hear an update on how you move. Forward or next question is about how about pricing whether to try to go for more customers with lower pricing or vice versa. It's from winslow more and he says I'm a huge fan of your podcast and all. Are you guys do you guys at the end of last year when I was going through a bit of what I'm doing in my life and learned so much of one of the reach out for a while but haven't because my current products under development isn't SAS. It's it's just an APP a recipe book up to be precise. I'm assuming it's a mobile APP. Development is nearing completion. And I'm wanting to make a landing page to gauge some interest before I do I'd like to figure out some pricing scheme options and I'm hoping you can give some advice here. My main ideas number one make the APP free with ads. And he lists pros and cons number to make Jeff Freeman with paying to unlock X.. Recipe storage. The third is making cheap like a dollar and the fourth is making a subscription like a dollar a month or five dollars a quarter again. I know this isn't something normally answer questions. On feel adventurous it would be appreciated. What do you think? Oh man I feel like I have some news that he's not going to that he's not going to like to hear so I'm trying to I'm trying to You know let let him down gently. This is one one of the most crowded spaces you could possibly enter riot. There's so much recipe content on the Internet in so much of it is excellent in so much of it is free that none of the models that you outlined gave a compelling reason for someone to pay right. I mean you you decide. I'd like recipe APP. Maybe they'll pay a dollar. Maybe they'll pay a subscription. So I think you kind of need to rethink your starting assumptions. Or maybe there's something you didn't tell palace right because there are reasons that people could pay for a some sort of like recipe or cooking service like I know a Saas business nest that does meal plans for people like you put in all of your detail dietary requirements and they spit out really specific meal plans and shopping lists and there's the whole APP and a subscription around it. They have business doing that because they're meeting. A specific need in the market that is related to recipes so there our businesses related to recipes and food but just like recipe APP. I don't think he's really one of them. I like the way you're thinking about it. Because if he were to each each way down and like you said build custom meal plans. That's something you can't get free right or it's or it's really hard to do at a good quality or Vegan meal plans or Paleo meal. Oh plan like there are ways to think about it. I'm guessing everything I've just named has already done to done to death. But even if he has let's say he he builds it's not just content and he builds an APP that actually has has functionality. That people are interested in these one dot like a dollar a month. You need a thousand customers to make an eye. Doesn't apple take thirty percent. I think thanks. So you really making seventy cents on that. He's you need thousand customers to make seven hundred dollars a month. That is a tough business. Even with APP store distribution. You would really need you too no. Seo I mean you need to rank in the top whatever top five four whatever term. You has an volume to do it. This would be a pure search play in my opinion because at at a dollar month even if your lifetime value is ten twenty thirty forty dollars. You can't run ADS. You can't hire sales. None of the a standard models work. It's purely as spray and pray and it's I need to have a free traffic so either need like union vitality or new organic discovery through a search engine so really really none of these pricing models are easy. Well I'M GONNA go ahead and say they're they're not viable right. I think it's kind of polite to say that they're not easy but they're really only a viable if if you have some way of getting not mass which is possible. Maybe you're like I'm GONNA raise a ton of funding and I'm going to be the number one recipe destination on the Internet. Like someone has to be. That's not an impossible thing but it's gonNA take a ton of money to get there or you're like I am the number one. Seo Ninja on the APP store no one can do APP store seo better than me. And I also probably have a bunch of money. There's some money to put behind it. So that's how I'm going to get there so yeah I just think you need to really look at. How does the mass work out to make this a viable business assists and what's my strategy beyond just like why hope a lot of people find my recipe APP in the APP store and even if you're building as a Saas App let's say just in general enroll? What's the general rule? It's the lower your price point. In general the higher your turn the harder it is to grow. This is not in every case. But it's I would say ninety five percent of cases and that's why so many Sass apps the playbook is you go out you're under price yourself because you just don't know any better or you don't value what you build and over time everybody goes up market. It's it's a very common playbook and the reason is because those customers as you go. Upmarket tend to churn less. They tend to be more more sophisticated less support. There's just a bunch of pluses with it but you often can't start out at those high price points because you products not worth it at that point right. It doesn't provide the value. It takes time to get product market fit with that audience and then and then moving up market and I mean that's all beat Abi stuff also everything you're saying is I don't think really even we're talking to see so. I don't think there's really even a big egg market to go to for an APP. You know there's more expensive consumer services but I've never heard of an expensive at maybe. It's a thing people done everything right now. I'm curious I'm like. Is there an APP for consumers that cost eight hundred dollars a month and has a lot more high end looking in the other up. I don't know yeah I mean I've never heard of one I've heard of. I bought a twenty five dollar APP. The other day wasn't subscription. But it was. It's a teleprompter that goes on my iphone. That listens to my voice. It's the only one that I can that turns a microphone on and as I speak it teleprompter automatically like it and to me that was worth twenty bucks now but really consumer because I bought it for business purposes. I bought it for the video recording so I also bought. I bought a twenty dollar apple paired. It was before they had where you compare an IPAD. His the second monitor to your Mac and it was software. That did that and again there was only one or two of them and I did the best one. But it wasn't a subscription and I pr- I would have been less likely to pay subscription description for either of those to be honest. Yeah no I mean. Those are really tough models to write or they're only making twenty bucks one time right so thanks for your question Winston. Sorry for the bad news but I hope that was helpful. I'm curious if you love recipes or you somehow love that space then digging and figure out like maybe it's not one dollar. Maybe it is a website that you acquire acquire from someone to get traffic source and then you build just a web APP into their. I mean there are other options in the food and recipes space that. I'm sure there's opportunity and I would say don't get locked into trying to pick up penny's really is what is what a dollar a month is like. I didn't actually say the name of the one I was talking about. It's real plans dot com. If you want to check that out awesome awesome. Our next question is about recurring payments. And it's from Gavin esplanade. He says I'm in the planning stage of small daycare management APP. One of the main features. We'll be setting up recurring payments between the daycare providers and their customers who are parents or guardians of the kids. I also need recurring payments for the providers to pay me. I'm a professional Russian web developer. But I'm not sure which system like stripe would be best to accomplish this. I'm leaning towards straight but it's probably because it's the one I've heard of most. I'm not sure sure what other good options would be out there. Do you have any recommendations. What do you think Laura will? There's kind of an easy apart in part to his question so as far as him taking payments events from customers I say yet stripe is great reuse. It we like it. Go for it. The other part where your customers take take payments gets a lot trickier because your customers need to have either. You know it could be something stripe or pay pal. But they need their own individual accounts announce and then are you helping them set that up and then there's no your customer staff that has to be complied with or do they already have their accounts so i. I just want to point out. There's kind of a trickier question within the question. Do you think strep because stripe connect is for marketplace's think it's for this this instance and I've never used used it but I know folks who've set up marketplaces and use it but this isn't technically a marketplace so that's where I'm not sure if the terms of service would apply to him having twenty thirty daycares using it and taking payments or if the new your customers stuff would pass through to him have you. Do you have any interaction with stripe. CONNECT NO I. I've researched it a little bit for her a different project and the hurdle that we came up with is that sort of a similar model. We thought that setting they still have to have their own stripe account witch stripes sort of helps facilitate but like we thought that might be confusing and challenging for this customer to set that up which I imagine daycare centers. It might have the same or they might have their own payment system already that they're that they're using. Yeah so I would head to stripe connect and and at least research it. Because that's the one that I've heard the most about when you're in this type of situation again not saying it's going to work but I think that's that's where I'd start. In my opinion stripe is number one in this game. They'd just they kill it. They make it easy and if you can make it work with them great to me my by my rules if for some reason I couldn't use stripe I would look at braintree. I think they're kind of the number to inner space for for doing this kind of stuff. And obviously you're not it doesn't sound like he's funded. I'm guessing you know. He's he's bootstrap listening to this podcast. But I have heard of you know if you look at like gum road. As an example became a processor themselves and that is a possibility it. Just there's a lot of red tape and regulation and I. I'm guessing like like the one of the reasons I heard number of raised. Their money was that it did give them. They had to go to banks basically and have a bank. Say Okay. We're cool with you being a processor if you're some bootstrapped person working out of your garage. That's unlikely to happen. So it's probably an option for you now but longer term. Hopefully you don't have to do that but that would be a a parachute option. I think so. Thanks as for the question Gavin. Hope that was helpful. Our next question is from Ash Yadav and he's looking for thoughts on joining an early stage startup. Just after graduation. He said I just discovered the podcast. Cast I'm going through one episode of the time. They're really informative and enjoyable. I recently graduated with a degree in which electrical engineering and computer science. I think enjoined an early early stage Internet of things startup. I want to ask. What are some tools courses workshops etc.? I can look into to get more comfortable with the industry lingo as I recently. He graduated working in a two person team right now. There are times when I have to talk to clients or to people who are much more experience than me and sometimes I feel left out. I don't have industry project. Arctic management experience and NBA or the entrepreneurial experience to be fluent in Business Lingo for example. This might sound silly but someone recently talked to me about Betas sites and I had no clue what Beta sites were. Luckily I was able to figure it out while we chatted and made it out alive but I fear I'll be in a similar situation again. You almost certainly will. I remember my first job out of in college and I. I didn't understand anything so thanks. That's a great question ash interested in your thoughts. Laura Yeah I think the first thing ash is that someone asking questions is a huge sign of intelligence not the opposite so everyone knows that you're young. Everyone knows that you just graduated from college edge when you ask those questions like what's a Beta site instead of pretending that you know maybe being way off base it's it's actually only going to make you look much smarter and eager to learn and capable than just pretending that you know stuff and you know. Hopefully most of the people around you feel will the same way that I do i. I don't think you should be shy about asking questions. Even if it's something that you feel is really basic that you feel a bit embarrassed about well you know we all were born knowing nothing. No one knew the term Internet of things until the first time they heard it and to someone explained it to them right. No one is born knowing any other stuff so I mean I think people should do this any time in their career right. We were talking about this earlier in the podcast about learning and asking questions and asking more questions so for me. The answer is less about courses and more just having the attitude and the mindset. That asking questions is a wonderful full thing. And that's how you learn when I graduated from college and had my first job. I thought I need to know everything. I felt weird about asking asking questions and it was. I thought it was a sign of weakness and I pretty quickly learned what you know what what fix it for me is I worked with this. This one guy who is really smart and he was senior senior. Any new bunch of stuff but in meetings he would someone would say concept and I remember being like oh I know what that is and he would say. I don't know what that is. Can you define that for the group and I was like Whoa and everybody respected him and he and that showed me that it was okay to ask a question like that and it was such a good model for me and I think the thing to keep in mind it is. You'RE GONNA ask a lot of questions upfront. But it's not going to be like that forever because you're just GONNA learn enough you're GONNA learn I you're GonNa Learn twenty percent and then sixty percent and then you're GonNa get eighty or ninety percent fluent in all the lingo and that may take three months. It may take six months but at a certain point. You'RE NOT GONNA ask as many questions and then you are going to be seen as I mean. You're so you still WANNA ask ask questions. But you're just going to. You're going to be seen as more of this mid level or senior and you'll get to the point where you don't have to do it all the time. I think for me if I was trying to learn about a new space like if I I I wouldn't know I don't know much about Iot Internet of things. Just what I've heard on tech podcast so if I got a job at one I would be probably a similar boat and I would dive deep in in the Iot. PODCASTS and audiobooks for me I do a lot of audio just because that's my thing for you. Maybe it's kindle or maybe it's paper or whatever and then I would. I would use google a lot so I would. I would almost try to get the lingo from the podcasts or the books in advance and then every time I heard something I didn't understand I would google and you'll be shocked that there's only so many terms in any space in SAS. It's hey it's an APP and there's and there's LTV and that and it sounds like there's infinite but if you listen to this show Oh for probably ten or twenty episodes. You're GonNa hear ninety percent of the terms that we all use and if you've defined those and kind of commit them to memory that's great training. I I think for kind of trying to get up to speed faster. Yeah I mean I I love that advice and I was thinking just the other day I googled. Actually Google the term test case. It came up in my company. Slag they're talking about test cases and I was like you know I'm assuming I know what that means based on some context but like I'm I'm actually not sure that I know what a test case. This is so I just google that I read about it and I figured out of a nontechnical founder thing so this is this is a skill that you WanNa have throughout your career and like rob said. Luckily it will get certainly easier. And you'll have to do less googling. Time goes on. But it's something it's something to embrace to make sure that you're not making assumptions to make sure that you are on the same page which is why it can't be to ask like okay. This is this is what I mean when I say test case is that what you mean because those types of miscommunication come up all the time. Yeah I think that's a really good point. I probably once a week I google acronym mm-hmm and oftentimes it's something someone on twitter and it's like a colloquialism that I just don't know you know I mean maybe a year ago it was t h and I use the other day. I was talking to my thirteen year old. And in conversation out loud I was like h Blah Blah Blah. And he's like what does that mean and I was like to be honest and he's like Oh my God you're such a nerd but I find myself cooling. Those at what does does this mean. And then there's like seven different definitions and you have to take it from context. So don't feel like you're in over your head Ash. I think we all are just because someone has been doing this for a few years. Doesn't mean they you know they everything about it so thanks for the question. I think it's a good one wrapping up for the day. Our final question is from Z. And it's about managing subscriptions. He says Hello Big Fan. What recommendations conditions do you have to manage subscriptions that come both be a credit card and check as the businesses growing? I WANNA make sure I'm not missing out on things. As people renew their subscriptions uh-huh for example we make credit card payments through braintree. I think he means they accept credit card payments through braintree but they also have people that pay check annually and they'd handle stuff through pay pal so it's at the context I was I actually when I read this. I thought he was saying we have a bunch of subscriptions. How do we keep track of those? But he's actually saying they accept payments in a bunch of different ways some of which are annual He says we use quickbooks for all the account accounting want to be sure. We don't miss out on annual fees or have. You had to deal with us. No I haven't is it all credit card with Edgar. Yeah I mean we wouldn't. We would just say no. Thank you if someone wanted to buy with a check but I know that you know some industries you can't you can't do that. We did this with trip after. Let me think after we got acquired lead pages they were set up with. We were using stripe they were using braintree and they think at a certain point start accepting we start accepting pay pal and they were doing these larger annual contract values. You know you get you. Get A toleman subscription. That is twenty grand and really. That's kind of an invoice at check situation. Frankly you don't want to pay the six hundred dollar processing fee the three percent but also companies bigger companies. Binny's as you said. Just that's the way it works and the way we did it like the very first one is it literally went into an excel spreadsheet that or or maybe it was Google doc that we all had access to we're like okay note to self calendar reminder and it goes into a Google doc and in the next month we need to build some type of system and then we just went into our existing because we existing billing code and we tweak some things to say well this is a check and so and so needs to be reminded and sends off an email to this. API The accounts payable wait. A minute accounts. Receivable sorry a are at these certain thing and we kind of hacked together and you know that took one day or two days of development work but in the moment moment we were able to accept the check and we knew there was a calendar reminder in case everything went haywire and then we went back and it was like this just in time. MVP implementation of something. And I'm guessing by the I've been been gone from trip for two years now. I'm guessing now. Hopefully they've built a even a better system. Because I think there are a bunch of ways to do this and I think that that trying to build a gold plated plated version from V. One is not not necessarily the best way to do it because if you only have one or two customers paying you that way you just don't need that much infrastructure. Yeah I don't have of anything on this one. Yeah all right Laura thanks again for coming back on the show. It's so good to chat with you. Folks want to keep up with you. You are at at L. K. R. on twitter that's a great three-letter twitter handle. I'm so jealous. And if folks want to know what you're up to with Edgar they can hit to meet Edgar Dot Com. Anything you folks to check out. I would just like to say people used to be a lot more impressed by my twitter handle. I feel like you can tell the twitter sort of on its. It's way out because I used to get a much bigger reaction. I mean you throw in a little comment which was very polite of you. But I'm a little. I missed out on having a cool instagram handle. My instagram is Laura Care Odor which is the most like. I couldn't even get larger rotor at its pro my middle initial in there. So I'm just like feeling a little old that I missed the instagram saying and no one cares much handle anymore. That's that's my closing comment for this show. That's amazing thank you so much so I guess I should go register and instagram handle is what you're saying that's how old I am. Great thanks again Laura. Hope you enjoyed today's episode next week on the show. Mr Brian Castle whole from bootstrapped web and process. Kit is coming on to talk about just brutal year. He had in twenty sixteen 2017 overcoming a forty percent a decline in the mirror and we walk through his trials and tribulations and dig into some. Frankly some struggles some victories and failures. And it's a good interview also also. 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