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Classic SETW: "Rowdy" Roddy Piper

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Classic SETW: "Rowdy" Roddy Piper

"Yeah well as not a nurse. No box of gaming. I don't deal rumored there I was there so nice nice car. NCAA move one odd bruce pressure that it I'm Conrad Thompson and this is something else to wrestle with. Hello still here this week. You'll God who said Andrea ad talk at all excited ban. It's all about rowdy. Roddy Piper this something else. Connie Thompson GonNa have some fun today. Let's start at the beginning with verse bowed Iraq they actually get to meet Roddy Piper until like nine thousand nine hundred eighty nine. I guess or nine thousand nine hundred eighty eight nine hundred ninety nine fine but the very first time that I ever got to see Roddy Piper in action was in Houston Texas roundabout nineteen seventy four nineteen seventy five when this guy name Rod Piper came into the territory and he was working the opening any matches like the first and second match of the car. He wore a dress to the ring. At least that's how I looked at it and he carried bagpipes to the ring gene. We're plays bagpipes on the way to the ring had bleached blonde long hair. Horrible Body just absolutely the most unathletic looking guy I you could ever possibly imagine. And Piper came in but the fact that he was different probably he was down eighteen. Nineteen years old twenty years old. I don't know how old he was then but roddy was different enough that you still had to take notice of him and I think there's a pretty famous moment. When he did the national anthem there in Houston where he there for that? Believe it or not actually was 'cause we had to. We normally had our matches Friday night at the Sam Houston Coliseum in downtown Houston Texas. It was a staple every Friday night the Coliseum Sam every once in a while the coliseum would get booked we would have to move over to the downtown Fandi Recreation Center. which was? It's a really small recreation center about the size of your normal high school gymnasium with bleachers on all sides of it and it was a place for kids went and work was went to a workout and went to play basketball and it was just a neighborhood recreation center so we couldn't get the coliseum. Paul Would Book Paul Bosch. The promoter would book the events at the Fandi Recreation Center. They had a horrible PA system. It was like one or two speakers and Paul Bosch. The promoter was a World War Two veteran in very proud of his country and in very very patriotic and every single events dance started for Houston wrestling with the plane of the national anthem. The Star spangled banner by guide. And this one night at the Fandi REC center. The ring announcer gets in and asked everyone to stand for the plane of the National Anthem. And they go to play it and you couldn't make out anything. Neither record was bad the. PA system was bad but it was horrible and Paul Bosch storms into the Ring Livid just pissed off at the national national anthem. Didn't play before the event and he gets in and apologizes and in the middle of his apology. He looks over a sees. Roddy Piper standing there with bagpipes and he puts the microphone down by the side of his leg. Walks over says. Hey Kid can you play the Star spangled banner on that thing and Piper without hesitation. Yes Sir I can and they held the microphone down. Roddy Piper blew the star spangled banner out out of the bag. Pipes got a standing ovation. Obviously back in those days people stood for the national anthem and Piper was made I mean Roddy Piper was made aide in the in the hearts of everyone in attendance there but even more so impala bashes mind Roddy Piper was a hero and I will never forget that day in many years. There's later that was a story that pipeline. I always shared and would always tell everybody just kind of about Roddy Piper in his Texas wrestling debut. It's pretty fun though. Because he didn't always use this bagpipe thing for. I don't know a baby face reaction. There was a time when he was running shows out in California and he wanted to get some heat so in front of a largely Hispanic audience. He would insult them. Getting them riled up and then try to make amends by promising to play the national anthem for Mexico and instead he did something something else right. Bruce Karrar John Cook at that at that But you have to imagine that being playing on the bag pipes and that annoying tinge there so Rodney was definitely going after some old school heat which definitely couldn't get away with in in two thousand eighteen but but roddy and he rode the end of that lightening bowl and went as far as he possibly could get he so yes. That was won't way that Roddy utilize those bagpipes and the southern California area to a great level of heat and he was really masterful at this yes because he had to sort of lean on other things to help get that he because he wasn't always the biggest guy so he tried to make up for that with antics like the bagpipes and the microphone work and he got in the business at a much different time. Of course. Roddy moved twenty three times before the age of thirteen and then wound up as a teenager sort of being on his own. And you'd hang around bars and do it kid to survive even if that meant stealing every now and again but when he finally gets into the wrestling business he has no not exactly the welcome Mat. Put Down for by Larry. The axe right bruce. Well Yeah Roddy was a skinny kid from Saskatoon Okay and Canada and Roddy had a chip on his shoulder. As you said he wasn't always the biggest guy in the world he trained as a boxer her early on just not so much to compete in boxing but to defend himself and it was always find himself in fights and always finding himself on the wrong side of the law and on the wrong side of trouble. Trouble always seemed to find hot rod or hot rod always seem to find trouble one way or the other but he finally makes his debut in the professional wrestling world and his very first match ever in wrestling was against gentleman by the name of Larry. The axe headache and Larry Hennig was probably about three hundred ten three hundred twenty pounds at the time. Larry Hennig is the father of Mr Perfect grandson of Joe. Hennig and and grandfather. I'm sorry not grandson but Larry was a double double tough. If son of a gun and Larry introduced roddy to professional wrestling in the stiffest of ways beating the hell out of him in about thirty seconds rod getting absolutely no offense whatsoever and that was his introduction. Welcome to the wrestling business. Kid Get the hell out of you by Larry Headache. He doesn't have the easiest road here. You know. Being a smaller gone a youngster. They finds himself on the end of a lot of hazing so to avoid that it would actually stay in this car until right before it was time for the mashes and then he would go in and he would even look for other places in the arena to shower other than the locker room. Just as to avoid any sort of potential hazing there on allegedly would carry his bag to the ring during his matches just to make sure nobody could mess with him he really did have sort of. Don't trust anybody start to professional wrestling. Didn't Hebrews Yeah. I think that Roddy just coming up in life had a the attitude of doc to trust anybody. Roddy had a tough upbringing. And as a young man. I think that he really didn't trust people in authority very much. So he was always looking for ways to make his own way and he was always thinking that no matter what someone told him that he was being swerved or conned and and just had that. I don't trust anyone attitude. So if there was scuttled dot. He listened to a lot of the rumor and Innuendo and he. I looked around so I don't want to be a part of that. I'm not going to get caught here. So he was a loner kept to himself and just fought to make his way in the business and his opponent from Glasgow Scotland Way two hundred forty one pounds making his first appearance in this ring Roddy Piper. He gets his first shot in the New York territory and seventy nine and someone actually sabotages his debut or at least that's the way he looked at it. allegedly sadly Freddie Blassie is the person who stuff tissue paper down inside the Bagpipes Oh when Piper went to make his way to the ring. It was embarrassed that the performance Germany was not what it should have been then for the mass itself. Johnny Rod Sorta Edema up and the plans were changed rather quickly for Roddy in New York. Did you ever talk about his first time. In the McMahon territory and this sort of situation with blassie and the bagpipes yeah. I've heard I've heard the story from both Fred Blassie and Roddy Piper. The at the time Roddy was coming off of a great run in California where Roddy the headline the Olympic Auditorium in Los Angeles. Working for the promoter Mike Lebel back in the day and Roddy had the gift of Gab and he was able to go and he was he drew money. Okay Roddy I don't think has ever no one's GonNa Accuse Rodney being the greatest worker in the world but Roddy Piper drew money. Everywhere he went Roddy Piper could talk asses in the seats he could fill up arenas and no matter who you you are. As a promoter you want somebody that's GonNa come and put assets and seats for you so Piper and had a great run in California at the time. Vince McMahon's senior would often take top stars from different areas and bring them in for limited runs in the garden and maybe make a loop in the northeast. He's territory from what I've heard. This was kind of a a one off a favor for Michael Bell to bring Roddy Piper in and have him on a Madison Square Garden show which was extremely prestigious. Back in the day to perform in the world's most famous arena and still is to the state to be able to perform in Madison Square Garden but Piper coming in it was kind of a you know Roddy Piper Los Angeles California the the cable from La. The television show from Los Angeles actually got into the New York market in Spaniel so the the Spanish speaking folks in the New York area knew who the Hell Roddy Piper was so he did have some name recognition and everything but when he came in Dan Fred Blassie is a joke is a rib Stuff the the toilet paper in the holes of Piper's Bagpipe. So that when he went out the blow Nothing was gonNA come out and Roddy try out there. He was just dying slow death but working with Johnny Rods Mad. That was that was the the proving the ground I guess if you will and Johnny Rods was tough guy he was a perennial New York star that everybody came in and they for for someone to call Johnny Rods. jobber would be a big mistake as Johnny was the kind of guy to get people over and he can make you or he could break you he he was that good but he was in the role you know. He was underneath talent. Used to get guys over but Johnny Wanted Yup he would and in this case. I don't know that Johnny particularly cared for Roddy all that much at this stage of his career and probably him up pipe purchase felt that they did want on him there and he got feeling right away. He really didn't WanNa be there either. Based on the reception he got Piper. Really hits his stride working working for Donohoe in Portland and I think maybe the most viral piece of video from that Rohan. Is the beer bottle. Promo what can you tell us about this. Well Roddy found his way to Portland. Oregon where Donald Promoter and for whatever reason man Roddy Piper just got over over big time in Portland Oregon again. He got over everywhere that he went but Piper would go to extremes cleaning taking a beer bottle breaking it over his head doing whatever it took to get people to be talking about it the next day telling you hey. Did you see what they had on. TV The other day this this guy takes beer bottle. Brexit over say it's Piper took things to the extreme to do whatever you had to do to get people talking eighteen and he was a mainstay in Portland. A found a home in Portland eventually. And that's where he ended up living the rest of his life who would pick Portland but It just was a special place in his heart. And Donna ones was a promoter that roddy felt a special social kinship with Donna was always looked after hot rod. It always made sure that he was very well taken care of and in return Piper. Paid that back with loyalty Until the very end Piper got mainstream exposure working in Georgia territory. Where of course they had? WCBS and I believe off on. He would team with Gordon Sola here in the very early eighties. He's probably the first heel commentator on a national level that fair to say it is Ronnie was the first In my opinion the first and the best to do color commentary specially back in those years in the way that they brought Roddy Roddy in was brought him in initially kind of half ass as a quasi baby face. He was neither fish nor fowl. He just did straight color alert. Commentary as Rod Piper. He didn't wear the kilty just wore the sport coat and he did color commentary and I thought he was excellent at it. When the time was right he started needling? The top baby-faced Bullet Bob Armstrong and just high while the skinny little bird legs there era couldn't beat me and it was just a little nuance things that Piper would do that. Got People will hell. This guy's got a big mouth. He wasn't brought in as a wrestler. He was brought in as a commentator. I gotta big mouth. Would've you know Bob Armstrong just kicked his ass then Piper. I turned heel worked. A program with Bob Armstrong became one of the hottest heels in the business because he got all of this heat for two hours hours on the superstation. Doing color commentary every week so people wanted to see him get his ass kicked and then when the time was right they they made. The switch turned rowdy baby face because they had dom Morocco accidentally knocked Gordon solely in Piper came to soleus defense. Because he'll or not Gordon solely was his friend and everybody loved Gordon solely so it was a great you know national exposure the first real national exposure that hot rod had he of course had tremendous success in the Carolinas working in the mid Atlantic territory for Jim Crockett promotions he befriends flair. There has a big part in star arcade with a tremendous mass with Greg. The Hammer Valentine maybe the most famous chain match ever is that fair to sabres. Yeah they had the dog collar chain chain match and they had sheepskin around the the dog collar and they had to work this match several several nights in a row and the sheepskin when it would get wet and it just ate up their next completely and years later Roddy would tell the stories about how who in the hell what put sheepskin inside of these things and it would each and just the blooded everything would get mixed with it and it was a terrible experience but probably one of the most famous chain matches of all time and on all the wrestling magazines back in the day. You saw the pictures of Valentine and and Piper with dot collar chain and a dog collar around their neck and that was an instant classic and it was even the way that they worked rotties ear. Ear Inn Roddy got color in his ear. It was just unique. He was always thinking of different ways to do things that innovation and and his ability to work a Mike a finally give them an opportunity again with New York this time. It's not with Vince. Senior with Vincent Junior. And he's brought in with both Paul Orndorff orndorff and Bob Morton Junior and the funny thing here is there. Were sort of questions about a size. People really skeptical as to whether or not he could be a main event wrestler so instead he was positioned as more of a manager who sometimes wrestled. And that's the way he got his big break here. Is that fair to say that maybe vents in that era. And this is sort of pre. Bruce wasn't really sold on him based on size and it took him sorta proving himself to really get that spot. It did and I think Vince also was trying to do something similar to what was done in in Georgia the way that they brought. Roddy ended Georgia as color commentators. Rob Piper and then slowly integrate him into the story storylines in the rain so events knowing that Piper could definitely talk his ass off at the time Bob Morton Junior was not a great promo. Bobby I needed someone to talk to him in the ring when the Bell Rang Bob Morton Junior one of the greatest of all times. Same thing with Paul Orndorff. Paul could talk but at the same time. Vince was thinking. You know if we give this This Roddy Piper with the kilt and a unique look a unique delivery. Let him go out and cut the PROMOS. Let Roddy go out and tell the stories for Orndorff in Orton in time when the time is right you I need to get into the ring he can but I don't know that there was as big of a plant initially from from day one to have roddy be the top heel that he eventually became art. Burst time out right now. When tell everybody how that can save some money? Look in the mirror he you look good but are you doing everything for your health today. Maybe you're not planning for the what ifs of Tomorrow and if not well it's time you you do. The problem is historically an rather. Ironically the health conscious have overpaid and subsidize those who are less health conscious. 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And in hindsight that is bit of a head scratcher for me. Because Andre wasn't selling a lot here what did Andre C.. And Roddy how did those guys get along. And why was he willing to do this for him. Well Andrei like Roddy Piper. Andre liked the human being Roddy Piper so in in the match if Andrei likes you he's definitely going to take care review and Roddy stuff could be convincing enough. That yes and an entree did sell. Andre was great it selling and making things believable but you had to make it believable. And that's what Roddy did. He made it believable and being able to see the giant Cell L. Forum. Vince is looking at going well at the boss can sell for him. Anybody can sell for him and he makes he makes it believable. He gives them. I'm something to sell God. We've got something here. They add something with Piper's pit. Vince McMahon decides the double down on the Roddy Piper Business and they create a pretty unique concept A lot of people would say that maybe buddy rogers was the first but no doubt Roddy Piper was the most memorable with Piper's pit and of course the first guest is Mr Frankie Williams. I went on the premise of never having to lose a match. I've never lost a match coach in my whole career. I've had different things happen to me. But I've never actually lost a match because I figured you were defeated. One time that it would take that away from you that you need it yourself. You're just the opposite. I have never seen you win. A match lettera lousy wrestler. That's as simple as that might be allowed to resume their pay having Bruce. You weren't there for this but this is a moment that everybody was talking about whether or not yes s because it was unique and it was different. You know Rogers Corner Boy Not The not the best presentation probably good for New York at the time but it wasn't it was boring. Let's face it it was boring. It wasn't it wasn't good. It didn't help get anybody over. And it just kind of exposed buddy rogers for not really being able to carry a promo my opinion. Yeah now you got Roddy Piper and there is first time that a he'll now is put in a position as an interviewer and having his own show. It was a way to get pipers. I pers- personality over but also to expose other talents and get them overuse. Piper's pit to get other talent over the Frankie Williams uh-huh interview where Roddy Takes Gentlemen. who had been on been an enhancement talent New York for a long time and just it basically comes out and calls them out with every fan out? There's already thinking you're a bomb. You're no good name but I Talk Turkey. Will you better by to turn. And it was entertaining on top of getting heat. You felt sorry for Frankie at the same time you highly entertained by Roddy Piper so it was not it was. You can't miss this man was you can't miss this segment each week on TV. Well it was can't miss when they had Jimmy Suck on. This is the moment that changed everything. Think for Roddy Piper. Of course we know what's going to happen here. He's GonNa bring out a coconut and smashed. Jimmy snuck in the head with it. It's a big thing. I didn't get a tweet up and down like a monkey. The third tear down the set and they are off to the races. They were made painting all over the country after this and they were drawing the same money as Hogan with Hogan was on top so all the sudden Piper has established himself firmly as a top guy a bona fide draw a main event or in the New York territory. How big of a deal was this? Coconut situation with Jimmy Snuka Piper's payer probably top ten all time and the wwe absolutely definitely top five but pie. As far as Piper's pit the the most memorable Piper's pit ever bar none But it was classic in that the utilized it to start the program and people the beauty of it was piper getting his heat every single week on television. Ronnie didn't have to Work Rodney. You had to pay to see Roddy early Piper work. That was the other genius of it. So if you're sitting at home all you're seeing is Roddy Piper. Run his mouth every week but then can you hear Roddy Piper is coming to your town. He's going to face Jimmy Snuka or he's going to be facing Hulk Hogan or whoever it is it's like now I get to see him get his ass kicked. I haven't had the opportunity to seem get his ass kicked yet so now go pay my money to see this. Take place so as far as that goes. I mean it was brilliant on on Vinson's part on rotties park because you have to work on TV and it was a way to get everybody over in the SNUKA program. Put them both on the Bat. Put everybody on the map. Really you know. It's sort of fun to look back at this era because both Piper and Hogan again while the top guys here. They both acknowledged that they had some real life animosity each other over. Who should be the GOP hyper felt like Hogan had his spot? He felt like he paid his dues. Because he'd been a top gun Portland and then down in Georgia hate sent Carolina on fire as well so in his mind. There was no question who had paid. They do between the two of them because from his perspective Hogan worked Minnesota and made a movie with stallone and he felt like he deserved the top op spot. Does he have a point there that maybe from paying your news perspective Piper was the right guy. I disagree with that. Come on all paid his dues Hulk Hulk Work Tennessee Hulk worked Florida got his leg broken by hero. Matsuda came back you know and continued his. His Training Hulk Hogan paid his dues. That's for damn sure. There was. Jealousy was professional jealousy between the two but to me. That's what made it work. Both both were top guys and both could make the argument for being the top guy because your top baby face means nothing without a top heel. So Oh the fact that they both came up at the same time opposite sides of the spectrum. Baby face he'll and they kept them apart long enough so that both guys were able to build on their in their own right but I think it was just to me that was just professional. Jealousy talk in our rotties part and I don't think he really believed that. Maybe did you know no roddy probably did but yeah. There was definitely a lot of professional jealousy there early on she had an later onto for the rest of their career. It's got to be the case. Let's talk about rock and wrestling and Cindy lauper. Because she was a big part of this early growth spurt from the company and right in the middle of all of it Hulk Hogan and Roddy Piper. It seems like these guys were are destined to finally have a match but they don't touch for nearly a year and a finally happens at the war to settle the score. I think it's still a cable rating to this day doesn't non-point one huge business and a huge attraction that sort of sets up wrestlemainia. How big of a deal was rock and wrestling thing and sandy's contribution to the early days here of the of the company success? I think that the company Kinda hitching. It's wagon to to Cindy lauper and of course MTV at the time which was brand new an MTV was the the young hip channel. That's what all the kids were talking about on everybody. WHO's watching? Cindy lauper was the hottest Pop Act in the world so the fact that Cindy was working with them with Dave Wolf off her manager Captain Lou Albano was in the Cyndi lauper. Girls Just WanNa have fun video which seemed to play every fifteen minutes on. MTV TV so there was recognition all of a sudden wwe stars are being seen on MTV. Allot doing a lot of things. The rocker wrestling connection. You got you gotTA throw Wendi Richter in there is well her her teaming up with Cindy lauper but Piper and Hogan and and this whole the war settle the score on. MTV Live you had Dick Clark involved you had Bob Costas involved. It was it was a spectacle everybody was talking about it and while people were whispering Awsat wrestling stuff. If you know it's you can only take that so seriously everybody's talking about it so now Roddy Piper and Hulk Hogan are becoming household names in that. Hey did you see what happened there playing clip of it on the news everywhere about in Madison Square Garden Tonight Rowdy Roddy Piper and Hulk Hogan faceoff a soft. I'm on the outside looking in. I'm in Houston working with Bill. Watts and Paul Bosch running our wrestling promotion promotion and and we're looking at this attention. This is terrible for wrestling. We don't want to be associated with rock and roll and all that nonsense but they were exposing it to more eyeballs than it ever seen the product before and it was genius at the time I mean even now it's still pretty controversial to have a man do something with the woman like this on camera. I mean energy matches are really the talk of the Internet these days about should they shouldn't they but here we're doing you know promos with Roddy Piper threatening to do something to Cindy this was real heat in the mid eighties was not. Aw well it wasn't. It wasn't just threatening to strike a female. It was threatening to strike these. The female that is leading the women's revolution at the time. I mean Cindy. lauper represented the female pop- Population Nation at the time with all the all the kids the young girls and she was leading a movement. So slapping Cindy lauper threatening into is basically saying you're slapping every you know everyone that's involved in that movement everyone that support Cindy lauper and and that was the message in. That was the tone that Roddy was trying to get across and it was heat. And it's definitely not something that That you get away with today. At least I don't think and I don't think it'd be in good taste today. Then a little different society was a little bit different. Of course that leads to Wrestlemania one or Mr not would be involved in the main event tagging with all Cogan and again Mr T.. Would find himself working with Roddy Piper at Wrestlemania to this time in a boxing match coach. And those guys didn't always get along and the rumor and Innuendo is that Roddy didn't really want to sell for a Hollywood actor. It's not fair to say. Yeah Yeah Ryan didn't want to sell for a Hollywood actor or Mr Tate so you know Roddy kind of felt that using Mr T.. They didn't need Mr T.. However Mr T. was part of the a team on ABC At the time it was the number one syndicated show. He was red auto and he was worldwide superstar so utilizing having the opportunity to work with tea was a big deal. Rodney just didn't think you know I'm not going to sell for me. He's a Hollywood actor. I think Vince was utilizing not just tease Hollywood side. But Mr T. had a reputation they had done a show called the world's toughest. Bouncers Mr T. won. The first competition of the world's toughest bouncer was was named the world's toughest bouncer so he had a street cred reputation for being a tough guy. Hi Invincible utilize that along with his stardom on the eighteen to get eyeballs wrestlemainia one. Roddy just for whatever reason Mr Teen Roddy Piper didn't get along from day one. I don't know if t came in as a big star and I need special treatment and It's below made work with wrestlers or what it was but they did not like each other at all. Let's let's take a look at you here you are. You shake their hand on both sides. She torture porting all these wonderful children. How can they look? Look up to you with that look longer. The Children of American today must be sick. uh-huh Well Piper knew how to get heat. You know. We talked about him threatening to rough up. Cindy and here with Mr T.. He has some pretty ridiculous lines to draw. Heat one of them being You wear more chains than your ancestors. Wow Piper knew how to get the white hot heat man but in neither of these situations whether it's with Hogan or Mr T. or whoever does he do a clean pin fall and that's something that Piper really made us calling calling card on and he's on record saying quote. I got kids the way feedback. Children is how much money can make. I wouldn't lay my shoulders down for or anybody in quote and they've Meltzer once wrote after Rodney passed away and the wrestling observer. Newsletter Piper said what everyone else knew but wouldn't say day which was the w track record was the heels would get hot and have a big money drawing run lose to the champion and then mostly work mid cards. He felt that has long as he never lost to the champion he would have enough steam to continue to be made of Inter in fact during his first run with the company through his first announced. Retirement tangle nine hundred ninety seven Piper only lost one match by pin fall a Fijian death match to snooker on La Twentieth Nineteen eighty-four Kiel Auditorium Taurean in Saint Louis in their third singles meeting in the city. This is a different era a different time but that was like Piper's calling calling card for a long time he would absolutely not lose to Hogan or anybody else. Did you ever have a conversation with Piper about that. Rodney was very old old school and Roddy was of the opinion. That if you if you lose that hurts you. I've never been of that opinion and we actually used to get arguments over it all the time. 'cause I I just don't by that philosophy I don't think that A loss hurt you as long as you maintain your he and he doing on what you do well and do it better than anybody else Roddy disagreed with that and he did maintain that if he was lose that would hurt him. And you know it was no secret that the old system in the Old New York territory if you were it was A. He'll factory factory. They had a baby face champion. Heels came in. They worked on top with the champion and then they went around after the fact and they worked with the next guy in line and then they were gone and they went away to come back at a later date now with national expansion and now there's no place else go really. Yes they could leave and go to Jim. Crockett but Vince was not looking for people to leave. He wanted to create stars so I think that he gave in you know. I'm sure that he fed into okay. Roddy and obviously vince fed into. Vince accepted it because Roddy Roddy didn't do a lot of jobs and he felt that that kept Roddy Piper special and he agreed with it so it worked one of the things that made Piper special was Piper's pit and that is going to be the reason we have a match at Wrestlemania three because around this time Adrian. Donna starts his own talk. Show the flower shop and of course Piper makes a few appearances to try to tear up the flower shop set. Now have a natural reason for these guys to have mass wrestlemania. The three and this is supposed to be Piper Swansong but before we talk about his jump to Hollywood. Let's talk about how the angle was built and how someone one got a new nickname after this match and I blame Roddy Piper for that well well biggest stars in the business emerged from this top hop guy you know going into Piper had been away and Adrian Donnas had it I think he broke rotties leg or screwed up his needed. Something but Roddy Piper coming back to destroy the flower pit which had replaced Piper's pit Was Classic Television. Roddy I was looking in. Roddy was sincere in his desire to to get away from the business and go and try his hand in Hollywood whether it was making movies or doing in TV there was interest their variety and Roddy didn't want to be one of those guys that hung onto the business again. We're talking Roddy back then in nineteen eighty seven Roddy wanted to move on Rodney. Wanted to make the transition so leading up to to the match there was an incident. I believe it was in Los Angeles Near the shower Roddy was wet and slipped and got electrocuted. So there was even Dow Out So the story goes that Piper would even make the Wrestlemainia match with Adrian Adonis because he had been electrocuted in fairly severely. So so I hear To hear him tell it I was fried and but But he was okay. and He. He had the match each leading to Adrian. 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Equal housing lender so piper is going to Hollywood to work with John Copper Carpenter and the now classic they live. How does he come to break this news events and how to advance Vance receive it because this is long before Hulk Hogan of the Rock or anybody else did this? Acting bug came calling. And I'm curious. How Vince received this news? Well you know as far as I know I I've heard it from this. I've heard it from Roddy. To that Piper was was contacted by John. Carpenter's people John Carpenter was a big fan of Roddy Piper and he had this scrip. He had this movie. He WanNa rock you star in it. So Geez man John Carpenter some of the biggest movie makers in the world at the time. It was a big name. Who would want to do it but Roddy had gone in? And I think Vince probably wanted Roddy to think about it. A little more and say go do your movie and come back and Roddy fell if I go to the movie income back that I'm still just a wrestler if I go do the movie and I stay in Hollywood Hollywood and I continued to do movies and I continue to do other things in the acting genre. Then I'll be an actor and he wanted to get out of the wrestling label and WanNa move on surveillance was like what are you GonNa do. He's he's basically quitting on retire. WHO's is one of the biggest stars of the era? So Vincent Retirement Match Wrestlemainia. Three and let him go on his way pipers on sort of gone on record as saying he felt like the no-holds-barred movie and the decision for Vincent Hogan to make it was in direct response to him leaving to mcvay. Live your response to that. No I think Vince always I mean. Ever at least ever since I've known events he's always wanted to be the and movies is always wanted to produce movies and do that. the no-holds-barred. I don't think that was a direct response to they live in any way shape perform. It was more of a response to Vince wanting to be in the movie business in producing executive producing and producing a movie with his top star Hulk Cogan you know get that person. Thinks really. Don't get that personal. Believe it or not by God. He made a movie. I'M GONNA go make a movie with somebody else now because he made a movie. It's just doesn't happen. So you're saying Piper's paranoid Rodney was very paranoid. Yeah Popper makes his return turn to a show in Denver just before Wrestlemania five. But by this time there's a new talk show in the company it's the brother love show. Tell us about arodhes return and how you heard. Those plans might actually affect your plan for Wrestlemania. Well originally we were talking talking about Wrestlemainia. Five and Vince had told me that there was going to be a brother. Love's show with a special guest. We've talked about a lot of different guests Jessica. Han who was Jim Bakker's his secretary. That had an affair and blew up the whole television jellicoe world different outside people. One topic was Morton Downey any junior who we did get but it was all around the brother love show because brother Love was big star by God Make no mistake about it. Brother Brother Love's show was a complete rip off of Piper's pit and I think Roddy for the inspiration. But Yeah I was completely -pletely ripping off Piper's pit and trying to emulate that as much as I possibly could however as I get into. Vince calls me into his office. One day and as Sitting there and he says l. pile got some good news and I got some bad news. Bad News is no brother. Love's show so it Wrestlemainia but the good news is we got right Piper. So am I not just data Wrestlemainia Samania by Roddy Piper my idol guy. I stole everything from Events goes on to tell me it's going to be a Piper's pit with more downey junior senior and then after making me sweat it out all that much more he finally says and brother Love. Saddam excited psych. Mike not only am I still going to be in Wrestlemainia five but I'm going to be all Piper's pit with Roddy Piper that it was a dream come true for me and aces is a how. How do you get along with Piper? I don't know him. You know I've never never met him. My brother does them really well. Tom had worked with Roddy in Atlanta. But I didn't know Roddy GonNa send you to Denver ROTTIES available and want you to fly out their work. Something out with him and let's come up with some wrestlemainia. Okay cool you know her nothing but good things about Roddy at a always learned that you judge people how they treat you not what you hear rumor and Innuendo all that guys at asshole skies difficult you judge on how they treat you and how they work with you you go out to meet with Roddy and we get to Denver and if you've ever been to Denver and your fat guy like me Assist get off the plane and you're like what happened to the air so I get to the bill that get get acclimated. A little bit wasn't in shape folks. get to the building and Jack Land has a sign on the door when the big dressing ESI rooms Roddy Piper brother love nothing like just shoveling heat on us right right off right off the top so roddy comes in and introduce myself bill and and Roddy likes to pet people Who likes to just Kinda pet? You and he puts his hand Hoai. There are Nice Young. Man You're good looking young fellow there. Yeah so so tell me what is it that you do and I'm excited. We'll have you seen Mr Mr Piper. Have you seen the brother love show. Yeah Oh man I. I was out with the with the whole bowls that night man. Sorry I didn't see it as well on every week week. You know. And he's like no. I haven't seen you son tell me about yourself so I'm explaining all this to them and I had an idea because I did. Roddy I case case. You didn't know that by now and I said how about if I do this thing where I interview you but every time you go to answer I pull the microphone away from you and I answer in your voice and then the third time you get pissed and you take the mic. Saw Tally there Assan. Well what are you gonNA say there and I start laying the segment out for him and he's just looking at me like APPs. What's cute down there? That's good you know what let's just go out there and let's just we'll call it in the ring. Their fellow okay. Hey you know. We'll we'll end with a little little guy. Everybody gets out happy and on the third time that I pull the microphone away from him instead of grabbing grab the microphone Roddy just hauls off and knocks the living shit out of me and fall back. I catch the middle rope and I'm just looking up at him. He's got some more son that hurt We finished it out. Came back and I walked up and He wants I was made up but he shook my hand so that was great man. We'll just add on that from their arrestable mania. Good stuff their son. So wrestlemainia was made in a say was history but but it was. It was terrifying line because I knew that he hated when people imitated him right but I also knew that I just thought that idea would work and whether it did or not I thought it did and I liked it sticking to it. Well I mean I would say that you doing impressions worked because we are two time podcast a year. So let's talk about Wrestlemainia five trophy. Hang on more over. Its way over over there. Sorry all we believe we believe and spoil my other Gimmick here Morton Downey Junior. Wait your other gimmick. Are you wearing shorts parts. You don't know that okay lease its pants I mean. At least there's something down there no I'm well. Yeah anatomically correct okay. Okay Wrestlemania five if we can get back on track here. Roddy Piper Brother love and Morton Downey Junior. That's the name that We haven't heard in a long time. How was it working with Morton? Downey what are you. Remember this segment. Uh How much was scripted. How much was ad libbed? Sort of walk us through this well. First of all Morton Downey junior was a huge talk show host in the eighties. And his gimmick was he was very antagonistic so cigarette after cigarette after cigarette on his shows would be zip. It Baby Taped his stuff in New Jersey but he was a top syndicated talk show host around the country. Everybody knew Morton Downey Junior. He was a household name name. So we secured the services of more data junior for Wrestlemainia. Now the best part is that Vince hate smoke. We talked about that last week on the main dollar man episode but more down Gimmick will smoking so we bring Morton in to the studio shoot these vignettes and Morton's in there and he's smoking and all the stuff event says he's like a a Yo. Hey Vince understand. You don't like smoke. I'm sorry you know I'll try and limit it and everything and then we'll go ahead. Powell smoke way smart junior smoking this whole time thence is wearing the ugliest sue. I think I've ever seen in my life and we got pictures. There's of it you know me. And my brother. Love's stuff and Morton Downey and his stuff and Vincent his ugly suit but Morton is smoking. The whole time and Vince is completely -pletely. No selling it the whole nine yards so afterwards like taking that Suit to the cleaners. I'm burning it and Vince took the suit of threw it away got the shower and and was done with that suit from ever. Thank God we never had to see that suit again but Morton was great. You know beforehand Morton's great. He was easy to work with. He got it. It was an entertainer. The question was would roddy get Morton would warrant get rowdy. They both got me pretty much. 'cause I'm a goof. I'm Gimmick and my part was easy but when I finally got them together at Wrestlemainia and I'm laying everything out and Roddy is not trusting Morton Downey paranoid. This guy is going to try and get over on me. Man Now not going to happen and Morton is like hey is he going to go off on me and do something off script. And everybody's you know second guessing everybody else so we laid out in. The whole thing was laid out for about fourteen minutes from the time that I laughed till the time that Piper I was walking out of the ring we timed it out and it was about fourteen minutes all in with the I pretty much ten minutes being all three of us. Well Man I go out I do the whole opening segment and Piper comes out. We do our bit it when I leave. All bets are off because all they were supposed to do was roddy. Go into ask Morton a question and Morton Downey blows smoke in his face this downing. Yes Mr Piper. Go blow no more smoke doc in my face I want to ask you wearing skirts. So that were doesn't go with me. I asked you a question. Maybe you didn't hear me. He asks it the Second Time Morton Daddy blow smoke in his face. That's like the fourth time you've done that Juneau and most say this again. Oh no more smoke. Ima fakes understand that. Try Your Luck. Aw that's good man. Maybe I'm mistaken. Maybe your hard of hearing but you'll after smelling that smoke like to have one of those their cigarettes you think you've come up for me Mr Downing Small but it just it got personal. They started shooting on each other. And no one knew where the hell it was gonna go or worse when it was going to end. Vince is back looking at me. I got bloody knees from followed down my my little Red Bikini underwear and I'm just blowed up from running up that Damn Ram data about what are they gonNA end. Dono had no clue but they got it finally ended event. Seibert you're piper. Comes back to action. After wrestlemainia he starts doing some color and then eventually starts a feud with ravishing. Rick Rude and I believe brother-in-law brother other love had some more fun with Roddy Piper during his recruit view and it may or may not have involved a shaving kit. What's the scoop on that Bruce? Well you know. Since brother-in-law was tied to Bobby Heenan. And we're both heels back on The idea was brother. Love to kind of be a spokesman to Roddy Piper's face for recruiting for Bobby Heenan and we did that. Leading up to where Piper now is talking about the hygiene and the bad breath that rick rude has and how he needs to have his mouth cleaned out and so on so forth so so he does it to to me basically beats me up and takes me down these guys little shaving kit. They're already takes the toothpaste and squirts it in my mouth south. And then he takes his finger and brushes mitee for me and then goes to get the mouthwash and all this stuff leading up to that Piper for goes in there going over the segment everything and Piper go Zanan bent slows piper. His shaving kit and allegedly someone in the room said. Hey he used this toothbrush will shove it up our ass. And then you brush Bruce's teeth with and kudos Roddy Piper. He smart me up to that and took the toothbrush and and threw it out. He says don't worry kid all get you instead probably got rotties finger in my mouth rushing my teeth and who knows where the hell that finger had been. But I'm sure it was better than a toothbrush had gone up. Someone's Kieser good times this this a rib this real life. That was rely that was. It was an attempted rib but Roddy and I got along pretty good and Not Something he would've done to me. Thank God I'm any ribs and wrestling involves something going up someone someone else's ass you know seems to be a common thread a Lotta Times as I write this review. Will you won't do put this up your Bra. Then put it in his bag. He'll never know that has caught on and mortgages most famously I think most people remember this era Roddy Piper for for his feud with Bad News Brown and the iconic look smart at Wrestlemania six. Maybe a little more controversial all these days than it was then he would say it wasn't racist at all. What did you think of Roddy painting himself? Half black to your jerk in years stupid you show up. We'll big about you. Ate A man. You check off for me. You're right we are different from mute. SHARECROPPERS IMMI were different we're honest and we're real men. I wasn't in favor of it again. I didn't look at it as racist. I looked at it as controversial and it was very controversial. Even then you know and the barometer a lot of times is when you go to your opponent that you say hey are you cool with this hell. Yeah man that's fine Maybe not always the best focus group. Uh but Roddy did it and went out and half of them the black half for whatever reason he chose Michael Michael Jackson to kind of bring out beating beating you know and like it was it was what it was and no. That wouldn't hopefully would never happened in two thousand eighteen and it was not. I don't think it was in the best tastes because you have to explain anything that you have to explain to me is is not good but after the fact after Rodney had used the solution to paint ain't half of his body black right down the middle. He goes back to the dressing room and there was another special solution. I'm sorry saw back up. The stuff that was on him was like semi permanent. It would last a long time wasn't permanent permanent but if view sweat and people rubbed on it wouldn't come off without a special solution to remove it after the match when Roddy comes back to the dressing room and he gets a special solution. Arnold Scotland accidentally tips over the solution the remover and it goes right down the drain so piper now has like about that much of the solution Lucien left and he's trying to get this black paint off of his body to no avail. Rick Martel is in the dressing room in the shower with Roddy with the toothbrush scrubbing him raw. Trying to get this stuff off and it won't come off so pipers walking can Walking through the airport yet some stuff stuffed bunny for his kids and stuff walking through the airport half black and half white. I tell all there folks good to see beat it beat it. Hey briefly takes another break from wrestling for a little while and trust land television series here with Jesse Ventura on ABC. Do you remember this This pilot episode. They did together. Yeah tag team. I think it was called and I saw it also had SAMBU SAMOANS and Tonga Kid. talk a kid was definitely all Sammy was entered or not but it was horrible. derk Dirk Benedict. I think also in it Hit it was terrible though I mean I remember Ronnie talk about high amount of GonNa get the boys involved and the guys boys are going to have life after wrestling man and we're GonNa have all these things plenty of episodes gonNA use all my buddies. You're going to be in it to tell me and I saw the pilot it was it was. It's pretty bad so he finds himself back new in commentary again. This time wants Ventura has been fired. How did this come about? Oh and wadded vince like him so much in this role. Well I liked him and I wanted to try because I I loved the Roddy Piper stuff from Georgia Jeff. We were looking. We were looking for color commentator. Bobby Heenan was was the best in the business at the time and bobby was working with guerrilla. Didn't water break-up that team so thought well what if we get somebody else. Piper had done an awesome job with Gordon solely and Georgia before four thought Piper would do a great job here with this so this is like okay. We'll give a try but he's all yours you're going to have to the deal with him and you're the one that going to have to make sure that he gets here on time that he's not a problem and that he's going to do what we ask him to do. So Piper comes in. Vince suggests that I have a meeting with Roddy in explained to him that let him know the urine charge urge and that he's going to be answering to you and by God you gotTa make you gotTa make it clear who's who's in charge here saw Colorado same save analysts get together. We'll have a few drinks and Let's talk about the future. Talk about what we're GONNA do. Go forward because Roddy didn't want to be wrestling link fulltime and the commentary Gig was good one. I thought he'd be good at so. Get to a hotel. We were supposed to go out and have dinner and get a few drinks instead. I call up to the room and he's like hello. There saw. Yeah Man I'm thinking I you know we don't need to go out. I ordered order a few cocktails up here. We could just chat in my room okay. Y'ALL SCHOOL I go to the row. Oh and he's got about a case of beer on ice he's got shots lined up clear liquid. Think like a dozen and we start drinking drink a beer. He cereal on have one of these. So what is nothing. That'll kill you their son. Donald and it was symbol sample Kashasa drinking a beer drinking Sambuc shot eating the coffee offi beans which I didn't know what the Hell I was eating. He's throwing coffee. Beans about is good for you. Their son Eric. Try One of these and they were white coffee beans. Yes I didn't know what the hell they were but to those up to And then we we inhale the few things And we you know we just had a really really good good meeting and Roddy looks at invading. We had a great meeting and and he looks at me at at one point and and he says Eagles vets astronaut come up here and talk to me. Didn't he was like yeah he did he goes. We'll be fine man as long as it's just you you want me will be fine so it okay. Great so I attempted to drive home which I would not recommend anyone do after doing the things I did that night and That was an experience in and of itself to let's talk about Piper on commentary some I would say that Piper was more concerned about getting himself over on commentary than anything else. Is that a fair criticism. This time around. I thought Roddy had lost the touch. Roddy was more concerned about Roddy Piper. Then he was the story and Ronnie was all about his cute lines and being funny and get Roddy Piper. Oh when are they not i. Don't they call it color commentaries about it's about getting the talent in the ring over sure. And Roddy was you know he was getting himself over. He was already over. He didn't get himself over anymore anymore. So I wanted to use his his stardom a one huge his star power to sprinkle some hot rod dust on the other talent that he was talking about. And that was what we're looking for all the people to sprinkle this hot ride dust on on you guys do it in Virgil. I just can't believe this is the choice. This is the decision but Piper gets involved called with Virgil and even makes the say form Wrestlemainia. It feels like you guys are just sorta out of ideas for Piper at this. I mean he's one of the biggest stars in the company Johny Wrestlemainia he's working with. Virgil how does this come to be mean was piper just a big fan of meat sauce. Or what's going on here. Who booked this shit? Roddy always like breadsticks. Endless Salad but at the same time anything for free their fellow is like when he hit when Roddy hit me with the the line in Wrestlemainia when I saw a little bit Scott she says hey. Your Scotch I mean is there anything Scottish about you or your cheap. Are you anything I think that was the one line that always stood out to me the most but back to Virgil. It looked it. Virgin wasn't going to get over after after working with Roddy Piper and having Piper endorse him that he wasn't going to get over and so you can't say we didn't give it a shot and we tried the best we could and the failsafe of having to be able to slide ride into a piper issue. That helped to now long after this you got came hand did Piper. Stay in touch. Once you were on hiatus yes he did. Roddy and I would talk probably once a month or so but we always kept in touch and Roddy is one of those guys you look through the wrestling business and they always say you know if you can count your friends on one hand. That's that's a lot I mean. That's that's pretty good. And Roddy was one of those guys that I would put on that hand that always kept in touch and always thought of me. You know what all and it wasn't always one way me calling roddy going. Oh my God what's happening It went both ways where he would call to make sure I will in their son and Definitely did so. In Nineteen ninety-one he's actually ric flair's I viewed in the company and in early ninety. Two he beats it's the Mountie for the intercontinental title at the Royal Rumble. And then he loses it to Bret Hart at Wrestlemania. Eight in your opinion says wrestlemainia eight intercontinental match with Bret. Hart the best of his career. I thought it. Will you know as far as working the ring APP so lutely I think that Bret Hart are got the absolute best out of Roddy tremendous match the told a great story And again I'm not saying. The Roddy Piper Piper was terrible worker. I'm just saying that. Match as far as workwise story in ring a bell to bell was probably rotties best match ever the winds up being rotties only gold in the WSB until years later when he has a bit of a tag run with ric flair while I was his only singles title title because he didn't Roddy Piper didn't need a championship. And if you were to ask me I would have said that the championship probably hurt Ravi. More than helped helped him. Roddy Roddy meant more to the championship than the championship did Roddy. He lives a back with the company as a special guest referee for both Wrestlemania. Ten and Wrestlemania eleven was this like just an annual call. Were Vince felt like hey. We need something special pickup phone. Get Roddy on the phone. Yeah you know. Roddy wasn't working fulltime. I don't think Roddy wanted to work fulltime Nord events particularly want Roddy fulltime. But when you're looking for something special for Wrestlemainia we were thinking about special guest referees for the unique situation that we had there for the the Two batches for the championship at the end and perfect was won- and they can have different guys. Roddy Piper was the other so wrestlemainia Samania ten. It was a nice return Madison Square Garden. The ten year anniversary of Wrestlemainia were Roddy at headline ten years before You know it made sense. It made sense for him to be a part of the main event. Again in the garden for Wrestlemainia ten. Let's talk about Rodney's feud with Jerry lawler caller nine thousand nine hundred ninety. Four things really get kicked off. When lawler has a kid on the king's court doing an impersonation of Roddy Audie Piper? What are your member about the feud this kid and of course Pat King of the Ring Mats with Jerry Lawler? Wow well first of all. We didn't have a lot of dates on Roddy and Roddy had this idea. Roddy was carrying in Iraq carrying around like a high eight camera. Or I don't know what what generation it was but rod carried this portable camera around everywhere he went and Roddy was documenting. Things in the airport. Roddy was doing youtube. Live and facebook live before there was a facebook and the Youtube and he was shooting this stuff and sending it can use this. This is Roddy Piper eating lunch one day this is Roddy Piper running into a bum one day and feeding him this is Roddy Piper having an altercation with the a rental car company and it was it was good stuff off. I should know what the hell do with it. So Roddy shooting a lot of these things back and forth and we tried to incorporate some of them when we didn't have him available for TV and things of that nature and so it was. It was different but we had the two a big mouse. Roddy Piper and Jerry lawler and they were able to go back and forth verbally. It was a fair fight unfortunately King of the ring. The bell rang in his good. As I just said that Bret Hart match was aw Wrestlemainia. This was as bad in the opposite direction. Vince wasn't there that night he was home. It had surgery injury on his neck and I remember the phone call afterward. What the was that? You bought it Not Good it. You would've thought they they would've had great chemistry too old timers right but but it. It became too old timers that we're taking shortcuts. Yeah don't go out of your way to watch king ring. Ninety four with Piper lawler January ninety six gorilla monsoon and goes down of course when big van vader attacks him and and of course guerrillas the onscreen commissioner so he's replaced by Rowdy Roddy Piper deeper and the river. Nene window is that the original plan for Wrestlemainia twelve was razor Ramon versus gold dust. And that's certainly the direction we were starting in early ninety. Six six but allegedly Scott Hall is uncomfortable with this so the decision is made to pivot to Piper while was piper the guy to do it and whether any other ideas that were considered instead of Piper well along the way to the Promotion Wrestlemainia twelve gold dust character was getting hot. Razor Razer was considered razor. Didn't WanNa do it so we were looking for someone else for gold thus also along the way consider for Wrestlemainia twelve was it's in La or it's in Anaheim. Hollywood California what kind of a Hollywood tie in can we do. OJ Simpson recently been acquitted in the OJ Simpson Trial Oj. Simpson was red hot. I think that you could find a lot of people that wanted to see. OJ gets ask it and that was a real real common thread amongst pretty much everyone so the question was asked what if Oj Simpson got in the ring and put them against somebody and OJ gets his ass kicked and thinking about different people. Piper's name came up and Piper was interested in it OJ's people were least listen to it but then you know when we got outside of the bubble and we got outside of A handful of people even knowing knowing this idea existed the backlash in the horrible feedback came in so quickly that we quickly realized that. Yeah This is not gonNA work. There's no way absolutely no way to spin this. There's no way to make this palatable for anyone I I don't care who you are to make this match reality so now left turn gold. Dust needs an opponent. We're back to Hollywood. Would we were using Roddy for Hollywood. Hang Hang on let's talk about the OJ thing for a minute here. This is because I know a lot of people here that idea in probably attributed to events Russo. This is pre Russo. Right Rebozo. Well what's great to me as we. We always hear all these crazy ideas. That were blamed on Vince. Russo and people say oh now he needed Vince. McMahon is like a governor. You know to sort of oversee the decisions and but Vince McMahon was on board with this. Oj Idea how does he present. I mean what did he think about it. Well I think it might have kind of originally came out of my mouth. I don't really know but Vince tried on. I mean we we got it to the point of least throwing it out there. They thank cooler had yeah. Cooler heads prevailed and and we didn't go down that road. Not Almighty. Here's a great ideas. Okay I then at the million dollar man created the million dollar bill I created this podcast. I invented the headlock Sometimes I'M GONNA have a bad idea. Conrad this was it. This is the one okay. All right I'll give you the one for the rest of the season. This is this. This is my bad idea. This and wanting to have a public execution on pay per view other than that. That's it for bad ideas ever Richard when. OJ's AL thing now razors out so it seems natural to put them together and now you add like another twist since you're in California. Why not make it a Hollywood backlot? Brawl talk us through. This wanted us to be different. So they didn't have a match and we talked about because Going back to razor and gold us one of the ideas for the rays of gold dust match was to have a Miami streetfight and do it in like an alley or do it on a Miami street down on South Beach each and have a live. You know live satellite from Miami and then tie that into the pay per view. So Vince was kept going back to that as well. How do we incorporate that? And he came up with the backlot brawl. We go to a Hollywood back lot because that's where gold dust would hang out roddy piper. You're familiar with Hollywood big movie. They live. Let's do it in a Hollywood back lot. And that was the concept behind it so so we were able to secure I think it was through Disney Mitch Ackerman and Larry Burton Martin and a few others rail to help us secure a back lot in in Hollywood there and pull that damn thing off but then had a vision. Of what the hell he they want to see. So when did you guys shoot it. What are your memories of putting it together? It was anyone injured What can you tell us about the cars that were used the Bronco and the Cadillac? The whole deal. Vince bought a cadillac. Had it painted gold for gold dust from there. He he bought a white Ford Bronco for Hot Rod. Because apparently that's what everybody drives in L. A. or White Ford broncos. The the the whole pitch you know we get there. We shot it a week beforehand That's myself piper. Gold Dust went to California. We go out. We lay this whole thing out and we shot all of the physicality we shop the entire fight all the way to them driving off in the lot of a week ahead of time so we had every everything laid out. We had people from the studio standing handing out there at craft services for us to have our food fights. Vince has to have a food. Fight in any sane And throughout it it one of the things that Piper did Piper wanted gold dust to drive the car adamant to take a bump on top of the car so that like he was he got hit by the car thence one really keen on. That didn't want anybody getting hurt. Rod is not a stunt man. Roddy convinced him yell. Let me try this and gold. Dust hit it and piper gets on top of the deal on top of the hood he hangs on and and all they asked us was look. Don't go beyond a certain point on the studio. Don't go into the parking lot. Don't you can't shoot beyond here. You can't drive your cars beyond here. What do we do with Piper all? Who Do the Damn car gold? Dust turns a corner and Piper throws off off. We hit a lexus. We hit a car Accidentally too lax of one of the producers it Disney the in the law so that was a lot of fun good explaining but in the whole thing Piper broke his wrist and was hurt pretty bad gold. Dust got cut open pretty bad and had to get stitches and Roddy yes screwed. His screwed his wrist up. Pretty good and we. We had to go right to the emergency room after the after the shoot. What happened with the Bronco? Well the the Bronco You saw the footage of the Bronco going down the freeway actual footage that we take the the piece piece that we shot a week before that was like earlier or that was one part earlier in the show Wrestlemainia toil and then we come back live and the the idea is the gold. Dust is riding is arriving at the building and Piper is arriving right behind him. They also wanted to do this bit. Where gold dust through opened the door of the Cadillac? Roddy would come down and knock the door off of Cadillac and that didn't work. That good Piper crashed into it but we had to recreate create. One of the things was because they got bloodied. The blood hid dried on their clothes. So that's another reason. We had to have the space in between and since Roddy didn't have his risk tape yet We had to have roddy find some tape on his way to the ring. Tape his wrist all up so that he would be able to work the rest of the little fight that he had with gold dust in front of the audience It worked out all right. Ah I was entertained by it. I enjoyed it so well. What else trying to ask is allegedly piper? Kept the Bronco. Dr Vince gave Vince Gay. Gold dust the gold cadillac an piper. He gave him the Bronco delivered to his house. Yes both Ghana's on so piper shows up in WCW. In October of ninety six of course Wrestlemainia was march of ninety six but now pipers going to switch sides here ear and this is a big deal because pipers been with the company for more than a decade here. He hasn't wrestled anywhere else. And now it's GONNA show up at Halloween havoc to challenge is Hollywood Hogan and the W. O.. Wind is Vince find out. How did he take it when he found out that one of his original superstars as now working for the competition Would you look at the Goodness it's rowdy. Roddy Piper up out the look at all good man who has found out the night before we found out the night before the Halloween show. I called Roddy and I asked him what he was is doing. I'd heard about it and I wanted to know if it was true or not and they wouldn't lie to me and he told me that they had offered him a deal and it was nothing personal. He was feeding his family and a sedan. Could you not have come to me. And and and said Hey. They've offered me this deal. See if we could match it or beat he says you can't match. You can't beat it and I've already signed I've given my word and this gentleman you know I'm I hope you'll respect that. What we what can you do he? He didn't lie to meet. And try and Kami swerving. He was straight up. Honest about it And I understood his position you know he probably got a hell of a deal. There never told me what it was and it was something that he felt he needed to do with done. Before Piper came back with the company he wound up doing a shot for TNA. And he's in the ring with Vince Russo. Sort of taking Russo to task for the Owen. Hart accident did you ever Talk Piper about I did and I just I. I guess I express my confusion about it I didn't like it I you know. Obviously I've never talked about that and I won't won't talk about it because it's just too personal to me but roddy was roddy. Roddy Roddy wanted to be controversial and felt that that was real and that people would gravitate to because they would say. ooh that something. You weren't supposed to touch right karate. It is something you're not supposed to touch and it was a cool and I think he got it after a while but in the moment I think he was just thinking what are we going to. How are we going to get people talking? And that's why they did it. Well people were talking Wrestlemainia Wrestlemainia Hulk Hogan and Vincent Man in the middle of a match and we see the return of Roddy Piper. He comes in wearing a trenchcoat in reveals that he has a a pipe and it looks like he's going to attack one way and then wads up going another. How does this whole deal come together? He'd been gone from the company for a long time. And it feels like this is just off the left field. Where did you guys put this deal together for him to return Wrestlemania in nineteen? I think it was the Thursday or Friday night before Wrestlemainia and Vincent I were alone talking about the show and talking about different things we could do you. He kept going there. Something we can add another surprise is there. Is there something else we can do. And we got to talking about his match with Hulk and and different things we could add as this. Is anybody out there. That would be a surprise. That could be a holy shit moment. We were in Seattle. Roddy Piper lives right outside of Portland brought up Piper. I was usually always always the one to bring up Piper. For whatever reason he was a friend I love the character and I just loved Roddy Piper And to my surprise Vince call him. I called him right there and got on the phone. What are you doing he was home? What would you say if I asked you to come? Be a surprise Wrestlemainia some sitting here with this. He's right in front of me. What do you think is what do you want me to do? So don't know yet but you would be involved in the match between Hulk Doc. And Thence said there's anybody that belongs in that in that match that rivalry that you and and he said I'm available. Can you get down here tomorrow as yeah I'll drive down because he didn't WANNA fly any didn't WanNa be seen at the airport or anything like I bet Soroti flew down. I had my brother Tom. meet him in the truck delivery in the hotel. We snuck him up. The elevators in the service elevators got him in a room and he stayed there until Wrestlemainia and we brought him over people. I thought he was just there is an old timer signing autographs special appearance by Roddy Piper. Is You know I used to watch this when I was a little kid. You know I don't the last night pulls into the low also gets used to tip me when I'm Jim Ross. WHO's in in charge? Talent relations at the time didn't know nobody knew the people other people on the the writing teams and stuff didn't know so Vincent Hogan and Piper and everybody together the TV people production people knew the Roddy was coming in. You know new we'd would have a special Special guest getting involved in the match and so on and so forth I. I was the only one that dealt with Roddy the whole day. I remember Jim. Ross coming out to Asia Rochet What we're doing here you need talked events talking to you okay? But I'm I'm not liberty to tell you I mean I've been asked. That's Vince asked. You keep something between us. Nobody knows and that includes lists lists. The people. Jared was one of those people he doesn't and you don't tell them you know but it was. It was a shitty position for Jim to be engines ahead of talent. There's talent there get dressed. He's not on on the roster. Jim didn't book. Kim fell on there so it. Put me in a shitty position with JIM vice versa Vincent like telling announcers Sir Smart and Emma smartening up anything on the only one that dealt with Roddy all that day got him dressed in his stuff put them in a black trench coat and a hat a walked him out. How right underneath the staging area where we had all of our audio and stuff and we sat there and watched the match? When it was time a walked to ringside I with him told the security guard move and Roddy jumped in and then everybody was like Oh shit? That's Roddy Piper. Who is the way? Is it go. That's rowdy. Roddy Piper L. dollars coming up on the house. He shot so good surprise. It was good surprise for the audience. It's a good price for the boys could surprise. Jr It's rising the announcers. Hey everybody's happy it was a good get surprise and Piper spent a lot of time in l.. Three doing some pretty interesting stuffy with find himself working with Mr America. Zaghaou in the Sean O'hare character Pretty crazy year. What are your favorite memories from two thousand and three rotties Ron here? Just having him back it was short lived but I always enjoyed working with Roddy and the idea at the time. WRESTLEMAINIA was a one off thing you know it was it was hey come on have some fun events be a part of it and who knows and then it was like what are you doing. WanNa come to TV The original idea was for Roddy to manage. Sean O'hare we had high high hopes for Sean O'hare and we thought that maybe Robbie Roddy could rub off on them a little bit in a good way and sprinkle some of that. Hot Rod. Dust on Sean O'hare but just didn't last long as normally did there was always something that would come up. Well let's talk talk about what comes up and it's the pretty controversial interview on HBO. It's a pretty big deal when this this comes out because pipers technically under contract. And they're airing a pretty controversial interview where he's SORTA blaming the wrestling business for a lot of situations and drugs and substance issues that guys have and then he finds out that he's been let go online. What do you remember about this? Hbo Interview and the Decision To let it go. Well he was not let go online. He was he was definitely call. Call then told that they were letting him go The interview was done beforehand. Roddy had told us about the interview. However however it also told us that he didn't say anything bad that he only talked about himself and the way that it was framed in the documentary and the way that it was framed? Didn't come across good for Roddy and or for the company and then didn't want to be associated the aided with it so he cut ties He felt that Roddy could have prepared us a lot. More for what for everything that he said and when Roddie had told us about what he had said in the interview he didn't bring up the things that they played and maybe he forgot got. I don't know and I and I really and truly don't believe the Roddy purposely kept things from us. I just think that the way that the interview interview was attitude and the way. They're didn't look good in it. Didn't portray roddy well didn't try the company. Well and Vinson feel. It was good luck for the company so parted ways Piper has admitted he was difficult to do business with. And you know Oy Dave Meltzer even wrote quote he had made demands. Vince McMahon that nobody else would dare do and he got away with it. What type of relationship did Piper hyperion McMahon have where he can sort of get away with stuff that maybe others cutting roddy invents had a love hate relationship and you know they both need each other especially in the early years and I think that Vince enjoyed the back and forth with Roddy his it was always always a chess game and roddy could be difficult to deal with? But I always go back to as long as you know. What the hell you're dealing with? And you know how to deal with it. You can work your way through the minefield and then choose me for a lot of that. Ah Roddy and I were friends but he also respected me and he could get roddy to do things that Vince couldn't get him to due by asking him in a different way and if it was coming if I could look at Roddy and say Roddy this is coming for me especially in later years when he knew that. Okay like with with the smackdown. So I know this is coming from Bruce and I had a lot of input from Roddy ahead of time I would get his input beforehand and he felt that I was working with him and thought that okay. If it's coming from Bruce he gave me a lot more leeway then he did other people and I you know I enjoyed that and I didn't abuse it a shot straight with him and then returning shot straight with me. Well of course he shot straight into the hall of fame in two thousand five. He was welcomed back here and Finally finds his rightful spot in the hall of fame and the the very next night at wrestlemania finds himself on. Piper's pit with stone cold. Steve Austin pretty cool little wrestlemainia Moma here for Piper. I thought it was. I thought it was great because to me it was two icons in the ring. It was the past and the present and for those guys to be in the ring together up. It's just one of those cool moments in it's a cool wrestlemainia moment when you go back and look at History Piper refunds himself back with the company again this time as a tag team champion of all things and two thousand six with his buddy ric flair. How the hell does this happen? Bruce Bruce Again. What if hot rod and when you think about about it this is where that dangerous is? I always say. Be careful what you suggest because it could just happen. You Know Rod came back was an assault thing with ric flair. They we're friends man. There was no plan to make Roddy Piper ric flair. The TAG team champions. It came up in an agents meeting where where you're sitting there and somebody says what if Rick and Roddy won the titles. I love it the next thing you know. They're the champions. Then you go. What do we do now? You know who's GonNa take it off of them. Where the hell did we go? It was a nice little nostalgia. Time period moment That's all it was and it was for a short time to Kinda get us get us through but it was Nice Jason. I thought that it it played well on the shows with a nice mixture. Did something interesting happened during this run on with Roddy that involved the tag team called the highlanders. Well now what are you talking about. I know that he really liked like those kids. Because of the kilts and everything what what are you talking about Conrad. Allegedly one of these guys decided to take his kids to Orlando Lando to theme park. Oh the sides. While he's down. They might catch wrestling back. Oh yeah that had nothing new Rodney. That was just the highlanders were were there for Orlando and yeah one of them had their kid and TNA took the shot of him him in the amusement park he was at universal city with his kid and went in to see the wrestling and they shot him and put him on air so he was asked to go home. Why would you put yourself in that situation now? The smartest move who makes the call. What's the sound like Aw well kind of be like. Hey is this highlander. Is this rob your rory hundred. which won't well? Hey did you go to TNA today hurry you're fired by the way bents yours. The great today. Oh my Gosh What is what is Piper? Wind up having to drop the tag titles feels like it happens opens pretty abruptly because they were never supposed to be the tag champions come on it was. It was a one off. Let's have a happy moment on TV. And now you gotta take off of them. It was never meant to be and it was just okay. We'll do this and it was another another week of television. Well hoping you will give me the real answer. which was he? He was diagnosed with cancer. And I assume that you probably had well recession about that. Yeah but but all that hid. That was actually even before you know he had the the championships for the won the championships campionships. He had been diagnosed with cancer and Roddy and had a rough rough time. And we had special on there because of my wife's cancer battle and we we talk and he would go on about the different treatments and the fact that you know he he was fighting and he was beating it so the when he'd come back he had already been diagnosed with cancer and he was just doing what he needed to do. He was gonNA fight and one thing. Roddy Roddy was was a fighter and he wasn't going to give up but that that was all during that whole that whole time there he was fighting it and he didn't want it to disrupt his life in what what he did. So stuff goes down with Mickey Rourke at Wrestlemania and of course pipers involved oft wise Piper. Always the go-to for the celebrity and Wrestlemainia for Vince McMahon. Because he is a celebrity and I think Roddy was was one of the stars that transcended the WWe and was recognizable outside simply from they live. I mean it's a cult classic and Roddy was considered a movie star in Roddy was known in Hollywood. Ronnie had a ton of these direct to DVD movies. He did a lot of acting he did a lot of things and he was revered in Hollywood There were guys that they looked at from the wrestling business. Hollywood Roddy was at the top of the HEAP so he fit. He fit in with those people. Something that never really quite fits me is the interesting relationship. The Piper had with Jonny fairplay who was a contestant on a CBS reality show survivor. What do you know about this weird fair-play Piper relationship? Roddy always had someone that would be with him to help him get through the airports because Z.. He didn't like dealing with people in the airports he. Didn't you know they're always be people that would recognize him and he wanted somebody to be able to say no you know autographs carries bags handle his arrangements. He was doing a lot of other things so it was kind of manager handler type role. I didn't know Johnny during that time but it was. You know I heard about it. And he had his run of different people over the years that were in that role role in Johnny was one of them. allegedly almost killing him in a car crash. Some point but There's different stories on that as well. From from Roddy side were uh-huh Crotty felt Jami was literally trying to kill him when he wrecked the car from Johnny side. Just like it was an accident and Piper went crazy but only those would no I guess Kevin Nash had an incident online with Roddy Piper. I Guess Piper had a podcast and he told the story about a backstage incident. WCW and Kevin. Nash didn't exactly remember going down like that. So they had a little social media or back and forth. The you know what. The relationship was like with Kevin Nash and Piper. It does feel sorta out of character for him to beginning into into little fights like this because he had a similar deal deal with stone. Cold Steve Austin who had a podcast on podcast. One which is where pipers was and I guess Austin was upset. Maybe that's the the the allegation that Piper has put out there about an impression that had been done on Piper's show and is back and forth and Piper Woodside that Austin got him fired repot castle and also deny that and say Piper was really just trying to create an angle. What do you make of these sort of weird situations nations with both Kevin Nash? And Steve Austin just before Roddy passed away. I don't know that Roddy really had a relationship with Kevin Nash. I remember the twitter wars ars and all that but then finally when they got on the phone and talked amazing everything was settled. Everything was squashed. What happens a lot of times? People will remember member things one way their version how they saw saint person same scenario they will remember it in a completely different way just like here. I'm giving you my aversion. I'm giving you how I remember things and my experiences during the time other people in the same situation may remember it differently and I think that's all that happened with the podcast one situation with Steve Austin and all that I heard Bo stories from Roddy I heard you know that. Roddy head head quit that Roddy was fired or not. Fired actually left but Her Steve was involved. Her Steve wasn't involved. So only those those guys know the truth but when I heard Bo stories from Roddy at tend to believe leave the you know the first one was. Hey I'm I'm leaving. I'm going to go do my own thing. And then he goes to do his own thing and then it was. We'll wait a minute. This other other story came up so I don't know if it was roddy creating something right to make bigger news to make more of the splash when he debuted somewhere else. And I don't really know I don't know what is what his motive was there. Of course by famously are infamously honestly passed away far too young died sleep and He had predicted on. Hbo Years Before that he knew he wouldn't make sixty fifty five. What are your last memories of Roddy? Because I know in real life you guys were thick as thieves and this had to be a big beal for one of your friends to To leave this early yeah I'll tell you it's a little tough to it on video here We've talked about it. All on the PODCAST. Roddy was was one of my best friends in the business and The last time I'd seen Roddy in person about a year before he passed we were here in Houston and Anna. Brought my daughter out. We had dinner together. We spent we spent two days together here in Houston Reconnecting and talking about the future and making plans for the future. I did I did as podcast. You put my daughter on who was wrestling at the time amateur. She fell in love with Roddy so much. She named her dog Rowdy Piper. Special Friend Special Man Helped me out through through some of the worst periods of my life from getting fired twice When my dad died Roddy Piper on their forget called? The hospital Without former that woman was in the in the hospital Roddy Piper called the hospital. Find me just tell me love me make sure I was. Okay We were we working together. We were talking about doing some different things with rocket fizz. We were planning on doing a two man show kind of like what you and I do now. And we had a tour setup in in Texas and then we were going to go to the UK to do these two man shows. We had big old back and forth and the night the Roddy passed I was in rockport. Texas am iphone rank and I went to pick it up and there was no one there. I got a alert. I don't know twenty minutes later. And it says miscall. Aw voicemail. Roddy Piper tried to get the message. That night didn't I didn't think anything of it was late. The next day away Forgot about it and friend of mine called me and says hey did you hear like what is this. Roddy won- thinking thinking 'cause Rodney had just made some outrageous statement on TMZ like a week or two weeks before. And I just talked to him. You know like three days as before that all God what do you do now. And he was like. He's gone and my phone starts. You know how it happens. Bad News travels goes fast and I started getting these messages. And I don't believe it. So I call goes voicemail and I go go back to that message and listen to the message and he tells me he had been up in Canada working on his book and he says hey man. I don't feel I'm not feeling really well which you never heard from. Roddy Piper. His is like I'll be fine. He goes. I'm not feeling well. I'm tired I'm going to go to bed. I just wanted to call and tell you I love you. I was when last calls he made and He was gone and I miss him. God I miss him very very very very special man Love him to death. His his kids were his life. His family was his life He adored his wife. Kitty a surprise. I mean God is girls and then Colton So tough one and I love Roddy Eddie Piper a mess Roddy Piper and he will go down as when you talk about icons and in the wrestling business. Roddy Piper's right there. Well I I don't know what to say after that. I aw I think all of us are Roddy Piper fans and we appreciate all of his contributions to the business and some of us weren't as fortunate to know the man that that you knew but His legend lives on and professional wrestling in here out here on the network where you can see some of his biggest moments of his career career that we all sort of grew up on suburbs. These days rotties legend. Lives on with rowdy. Ronda Rousey she she has a t shirt styled after him. She famously wore his jacket to the ring. And I'm curious what you think of that. Some old go wrestling fans don't really like it but as a wrestling fan in Iran Fan. I think it's pretty cool. That she sort of paying them is to the legend. That is Roddy Piper. Well Lemme alleviate anybody's fears. I can guarantee you that Roddy Piper is looking down with a big eggs smile on his face and with a ton of pride to see Rhonda Rousey enter the WWE. He was a big Fan of hers. Lou Duva and Ronda Rousey and I know that she was a big part of rotties life and he followed her career he loved her and was always trying trying to tell her. You need to get into the business. You need to be over here. So having Ronda Rousey celebrate Piper. Every time she comes out and and the whole the whole t shirt when Rhonda Rousey I came out of the Royal Rumble and was wearing the jacket. I remember watching that and say that looks. Just like Piper's jacket because that Jack was so iconic to me the son of a bitch never took it off okay ward everywhere so Ronda Rowzee I I know for a fact that Roddy is so proud of her right now looking down at his happy as can be and she's doing the legend and she's doing the whole name Rowdy Roddy Piper a huge service by represent him in the right way and I I wish another the best man. I think it's great. And I think that I think that people have to remember remember remember the icon and remember the trail blazers spirit rowdy. Roddy Piper we never took no for an answer and who did it his way truly did it his way and that's a lesson everybody coming up. That don't accept. No and and fight for what you believe in. And that's the man Rowdy Roddy Piper and. That's the guy that you have to remember and you have to celebrate and I love your Roddy Piper for man and you will live on for. We'll see you next week right here on something else to wrestle but first bridge.

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"Thank you for listening to this. Podcast one production now available on spotify apple podcasts. Podcast one dot com in anywhere else. You podcasts Stevenson. Show is brought to you free today about our friends. Ben Online. Get into mixed bit online dot. Ag and use the Promo Code. Podcast one for your fifty percent. Welcome bonus bet online your online sportsbook experts and exclusive partner of podcast one sports net podcast one dot com production from Hollywood California by way of the broken skull ranch. This is the Steve Austin. Show Gimme a hell. Yeah yeah now. Here's Steve Two hundred forty five. We go I got rowdy. Roddy Piper Guy that had the utmost respect for. I've already told you guys before. Brought this cat into the studio. That's all right in the protocol of the show was gonNA land. He's not going to be like. I'm introducing hitting ring so good morning. How are you a morning Wolf? I'm riding fast but I I'm honored to be here You know it's funny in in our business you know I've seen you in the locker room and She knew obviously on TV. Do some great stuff but there was a gentleman wanted me to do a show called the voice and so I think his name was Michael and he said okay so he sent me your episode that you did on the voice and I watched it and I. I didn't know anything about you so as much as we say. Hello. We really don't know a lot about each other. No we. We never left cross too many nine or is it we. We've never crossed territories together. Never and you came down the road maybe ten years before I deal. But there's there's that age gap pass as much in high regard as I held you wake point. We don't know each other and so it was funny because you sent me a text out of the blue. I watch that voice and started hearing how you came up through the business and how you paid your dues and I feel bad about this now. I just never thought of you that way and when I saw the I S I go. That's my brother and that's just got out the tax and said great job and that's how it started. I just you know. Sometimes we get buried in our own stuff and we. I do speak for most of whose we gotta most in your pocket hero. But it's funny because you're an I don't mean this in a an antique fashion. But you're so old school. I mean yeah you you paid your dues. You earned your stripes. I mean you pay double dues so from your mentality and it's got like me when I look back man against guy he didn't even like the business he just got in to make money here. You're on that pure mindset you love the business and you pay your dues to your way up and you gain the knowledge from the bottom as you get the crap stomped out of you. Along the way you get long drives with Sweden Anson. Yeah talk into. The brain is a sponge. Everybody pours sponge and you sit there and you ask questions you really offer nothing. If you're not asking a question you don't really have any business talking because I have no experience with which to speak caress correct and I'm they would let you own a media would that's that's man. Tell me under his wing and we were traveling together. I didn't have any money to pay for the gas. So with him and Chris Champion. They've put gas in. My High Excel and Dutch was always ragging on me back when I chewed Redmond Tobacco and he'd take on the back and chew it and leave an empty bag there and finally he you know he was giving me knowledge. But also you know busting my chops row finally auto is GonNa Limitation. Something Dutch goes you. There's nothing you can tell me trying to shut up take it and I. I don't know if you can remember this. I can remember when Trans was once in a mile used to have to pay the driver. Send a mile then transferred up to two cents a mile. Did it back in the day? Yeah like the mid size the mid card guys they would Their waste would make sandwiches and stuff. And you haven't and you'd be on the corner of you weren't on the corner. You missed and they would get three guys in the car and in the beginning like they count the mile agent at the end of the trip everybody gave a penny a mile or two cents a mile. You could buy the sandwiches. Like for fifty cents. That was NO BRONCO. Lubich store one time back in a day. You guys made a bunch of sandwiches for everybody. A lot of guys just out. He made a bunch of sandwiches to hand out. Because it was at the end the trip it goes okay so and so for you then. The transient business. You know when you're scrapping and you're trying to come up with a you ain't making a damn thing nothing. It's Kinda hard to get down the road. It was funny story because I watched a clip of you recently. Wwe Just announced w network and they showed some highlights from legends house. A reality programming out talking to the other day. And you're like all your years on the road. You liked to stay by yourself now. Coming up you certainly hill if you rooms actually guys in like sardines save money because you had to large your loaner. You'd like to do. Your own thing is all of a sudden you're forced into a room will with Doug Dot COM dot com. You know I I four nights. I wouldn't go in the room sleeping on the floor in what they would call. The living room was Harpo Marx Mansion in Palm Beach. That's cool. That's Paul. Yeah Kinda you know. It was done upright they. They didn't hold expense back but I I just always had a hard time. Go Falling Asleep like that But eventually you know. I don't know I didn't know hacksaw that well at that time either. I don't know that all I said okay so things like this I go getting up and trying take care of my roommate right. I says have Saudi Georgia. Your food he goes. No way asked that nicely. What does that mean? What does that mean? So what are you talking about? Salt in their food and no sodom more and they turned to a pillar of salt and hacksaw looks and goes salts. Bad for you know on stock right. He was a wonderful guy. What did you guys jail as roommates? Guess we're GONNA see. Yeah I guess the only out of the no but I was definitely the dark horse in the whole episode of it. I I have a hard time being Harnessed you know I feel like someone's bullying the harnessing me. I have a hard what you sound to me like. You just need your space. I mean like I love people. Most people are close to me. Know that I'm a hermit when I go to South Texas just me and my wife or if I'm just down by myself I love seeing human beings but by the same token if I go down to my place and I don't see one for one or two months. I'm totally fine with that. Absolutely absolutely I like. I've always been you know. It's hard to believe but I'm extremely shot to a fault. Come on I know I know straight up. Not You know like all the stories and stuff that flare towels or whatever those were done in very wild days with a lot of consumption right but as a human being from the beginning now. I left when I was thirteen in. I mean you guys this from junior high right or or or kick energy and so and so yet beat with your father. Oh you pulled a knife. Somebody else. Vice-principal I'll tell you the story. Please do not a good thing to do these days. You can't even school true about the store because because we're talking about paying dues and I know and here's the thing that it was funny when you sent me that text message because I held you in such high regard but in doing my research about you there are so many things about yourself that I did not know and man if you got on the road at thirteen years of age and I know when you had your first pro match and we'll we'll get to that but you paid not just dues in business and pro wrestling but life dues you know getting out and having to support yourself by yourself Yeah so what happened with a knife? Well I tell you this I just I can just tell you the truth is all. It was in Toronto and I was trying to go to school and is a junior high school and still in Canada. I don't know why So like it's gym class. And they've got a big swimming pool and they insist you swim naked. They insist the YMCA at the back of the insist. And like I like having a hard time with it. coach Like I started damage. Arrested a little bit. You know whatever And the coach was really getting on my case and I said a few words and all of a sudden the vice principal and there were cornering me in the locker room. I didn't understand I had the I had a knife and I just I got confused. I was really scared right. I'm there all of a sudden I had it. And then you know things got real ugly then on Got Kicked out of that school there. I wasn't like you hear all these. I've never tried to hurt anybody I really have. I don't know Bagpipe player. All right but you guys got you in a corner self-defense. On I didn't understand what's the point? Right what why I get it and well. You don't live in on the living on the streets like that's a hard business there so yeah. I didn't do well in school. I I've got about a great education now. I scammed my way. Don't get me wrong down. There was a high school I went through and I broke into it at night. Stole the test is doing. What was the name Windsor Park? And Shaw gotTa Pass this thing. So I broke a window at nighttime and I ran through the school at nighttime went to the where I knew the tests were Grad the tests and ran out and hitting a snowbank and sure as heck here come the fleas because their silent alarm. I'm in a snowbank born in Saskatoon almost no boy so I take the test home and like I fill out the test and I'm so proud of myself and I come next day or the tested. It's all handed out everybody's taking it and I had the test like under my shirt my tummy and you know. I'm really cocky but. Add kicks in and boredom itself. I switched him and I was done. I unusual however I was so proud and I put the tests there and wave goodbye to my fellow fellow students and I came back the next day and they handed out the tests and it says and teacher said sorry Rod wrong test. The wrong gas really pissed off Jimi Shourie right wrong cast drew classic and I could've done a year in the pen for that. Did you ever end up graduating high school? They pretend I did. I tried to go to school when I was wrestling parole And you know like I went back and I got the key to the city in a page where I had my first pro match but and I went to visit the school and they pull these cards. I'll like you got fifty percent but you know this is if I may. I don't WanNa bore. You know I I'll tell you some that. I never really talked about who I was born in Saskatoon Saskatchewan which is one of the coldest places on hundred below with the wind. Chill when I was four years old. I got my arm caught in a washing machine ringer and I couldn't get out. Used to wear used to put clothes and the washing machine and would like squeeze them to get it out and I. The washing machine was plugged in that undo. The light The people who are raising me and the ceiling and the plug was in there. I guess from flailing a hit the plug and the emergency thing. Yeah two rollers show. I know exactly what you know but my arm right up to here and I lived. I was born on eighteen. Oh to Victoria Avenue and my aunt was sixty no to to answer. I ran down the alley and I I would. I rocked a lot as a kid and I never said anything and I was just sitting on the chair and you know it's Canada liquor stores close at Certain Times Ankle. George I'm busy all that and then blood started to come down and they me in the hospital and When I got out they took me away away from Saskatoon and put me on an Indian reservation called the pot he h. Eps On it still to this day. the toughest Indian reservation in in Canada. It's the home of the world's trappers festival. They used to do. A program wide world of sports once a year where they're real trappers. They're not you know you don't pet the dogs. The dodger chain down and like they had contests of the cutting the logs and who could carry the most two pounds of flour which is Indian guy. Carry like five hundred pounds or something and and he just gets his. You know I'm GonNa tell you I've always wanted to and I will tell you now. Hold Akon quit if it you still talk to me. So how's your only white kid in this Indian reservation? I was so scared. I can't tell you how scared I was. And my first grade I begged not to go and to the point where. I'm not exaggerating. Anything I held onto the man's ankle and the man literally moved his foot leg walking dead all the way and cried everybody in the hallway. Watch me and the teacher's name was Miss Hill. She's I take care of a little boy and they left me and she took out in. Canada was legal and had a handle in triple leather. And you know you got me stop crying. They're playing you. Betcha shot up and when they taught me they taught. They had a new way of teaching. You have a pen anything pencil. Maybe we could get one is gone. Austin Chopin talk at night. We'll carbon you. They so in my very first year in school The country decided that they're going to change the way to teach children so with reading. I've never read a book cover to cover. Not even the one. I've heard you say that in interviews straight up shoot. You've never read about no-shirt cover to cover a script. I have to have someone read with me. I don't get it and here's where it came from was instead of teaching you phonics. They taught memorization right. And so why would they do that? Because the government thought it was a better way to teach kids and instituted it through the country then they had a thing called new math. And I'M WRITING IT DOWN FOR STEVE. Now and it's division. We'll put ten into a thousand. What she did is well. You look at the ten and on the side. There's a long line and it. Well I know Tangos in two thousand one time you subtract it. That'd leave nine hundred ninety two times. That's twenty subtracted. That's nine set any and you kept that up and then you add these numbers and put it up there. Medicine Allowance Arithmetic holy cow now while I was an Indian reservation. I mean they aided me and I wore buckle I. Just because he's a white kid wasn't a personality trait. It was just really scared. And you know an easy target and recess. You know I was Kinda like the the foil. But here's what happened. I couldn't go home the way the other kids went and Jalen february-march this place is. You can only get around by Caterpillar. I beg you people to look it up the Manitoba. The PS and I used to have to go by the tree line and they had these things called timber wolves. And I don't know if you've seen the timber off meg ashwell whole Beta cheeses. No kidding you know. They are a pack by themselves and they would snatch a kid like January February march. Were game was scarce. If they came on a kid they would snatch the so. They talk me. I would have to go by like the tree line so wouldn't get beat up and I sang songs. Embarrassment Dollar Rod Della Damn thing I Jon Jacob Ingelheim Schmidt John J of Jingle Heimer Schnitt. The reason I sang it was if you if you accidentally came in contact with one of these wolves they turn on you. If one of these wolves heard a human voice more than likely they get away from it because they get shot or whatever but if you were if you were quiet and they turned and they saw little piece of game. They're they got so I'm GonNa tell you this now only cow or so. There's highway was right. We had a little red shack. Okay okay we had a little red shack literally by the railway tracks and it was a company shack and it had kitchen two bedrooms a lot of rats down in it and it was right next to the railway tracks and across the street was the only person would speak to me. Her name was Arlene Philly and her dad owned the general store. I'm across the street and one of my sisters goes to go to school and I ran across to hug her and I gotta hit by a truck. Maybe I know twenty five thirty miles an hour. I can remember when it hit me. I went up and I landed on the pavement. But the the force had me rolling to the ditch. I can remember my eyes backwards and see in the tire and the guy in the truck was an Indian gentleman. Been drinking but back in those days are getting up. Now Goodbye Goodbye. They never took me to the hospital. So any damage. Don't yeah so then during the winter. I'll get out of this in a second but you need to know during the wintertime I have really bad tummy problems and the only way you can get the hospitals. A Catholic hospital is by greater got appeal to thank you and to get the Caterpillar and bring a kit in all right so they get me in and got appendicitis. They take up my bendix. Nothing's wrong with them. I had tonsillitis so they took out the point and then they give me a shot when I cried are some by myself there and so okay move on and in the springtime there's so much snow and it's logging industry. There's logs in big puddles of snow. For some reason. Rod Lake to roll on the locked in Bom in those in the water. Rod Dole and. I got scared to go home because I wasn't supposed to do that. And so I'm with I'm with my friend and sh- her and I rolled on logs and we both went down and I'm too scared to go home and right across the street is her father's store and next to kind of like a garage with a pot bellied stove in it arlene and I went across the street and we took all our clothes off. I'm six years all our clothes off to hang on to get into dry. But you know we're naked in in In the garage and Arleen Orleans mummy was a very religious woman. And like I can only pick up certain points for a year but I remember her coming in and she screamed rate and she called the police and in those days there was only one policeman. For like he was an rcmp for like three hundred miles in every direction and so she called that policeman and he came and that policeman was my dad. Wow that's how I started my first year and then boom they moved me out of there to another place and by the time I got a grade three or four also lost I. You know I couldn't catch on so I just cheated a lot. Got Really good at it but I never absorbed. I can't read a book that's what it is we have. Obviously you're you're you're a smart cat. Everybody knows that I sit there and watch some of your promos. Just not the way you could convey a message To An audience. I mean it was true. Emotion and content is well. Sometimes I think people get too much to lost and in content are with which you know barebones information that comes from the heart and soul. 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Roddy when did you become interested in the game of professional wrestling? Were you watching on TV? Did y'all have a TV? No Sir so how did you discover it I I came fist in the world playing the bagpipes when I was fourteen years old. And which was really bad experience in my life and that picked out of two hundred pipers in the world to do the Rose Bowl parade. I don't know stand ten eleven and who saw I decided to give it a go on my own and the way I they have youth hostels in Canada and that day the cost a quarter. She go to the youth hostel and it opened like at six and lights out at nine. And when you come I swear to you. There was a sign that says. Check your weapons and drugs at the door and they would take them back to you and in this thing. It was three tiered bunk beds so when you got there for quarter they would give you a sandwich a cookie and a little carton of milk. Boom you had. There's some foosball. You had to be used to sleep at nine. Six o'clock in the morning rock and roll. They give you two eggs bacon piece of tolls milk. Atoll shower get out and you can't come back the next day right but you could go back to the day after right so I would Who at nighttime play my bagpipes with the case open? Now this youth hostels were in a Ymca saw in this YMCA on. I don't rub anybody 'til nighttime what am I gonNa do during the day and there's a GM and there was this guy. He was an amateur wrestler and boxer and he took Langton he was a minister and he got me amateur wrestling and boxing and won the 167 amateur wrestling championships and When when Verne GONYEA would come to Winnipeg by amateur wrestling coach? Boxing coach would be the referee just for that night. Local right right so. I don't know who I think it may have been buddy Wolfe of somebody missed a plane didn't show and my coach comes to me. And he says I can get you twenty five bucks a whole downing all at a quarter a night but he said you're to lose your amateur status. Wow Yeah but bucks. Twenty five bucks. Maybe turn pro so I wore teen fifteen hundred eighteen okay. So I've never seen a pro match and Jesus Christ I went to my pipe band and shit like they all enthusiastic will play in okay so I got to figuring it and my opponent was Mr perfect stack. Larry the axe and I heard this on. Stop Okay Larry. The axe heading to anybody that listened to the show as never heard of lowering the ending. This was a big burly three hundred pound crowbar of a man flow. I'm just tough. Hold me there and let me tell you. Hannity quick you know that. I poked that I've done so it's going to bring that up. You got the greatest double alcohol. I mean if three stooges may ask you the best ever I love. This is how where I got that from. There was a guy at two of the boys. One's name is Horst Hoffman. And the other guy's name was billy Robinson and Robinson yet and they all talked about wiggins which was a place over in England. It's just supposed to be great. Hookers come from there and a great great great hookers real wrestlers. Yes Kurt you got. Hookers pay money for services rendered though that came late yeah. I didn't charge much either. So there is a family man and Horse Offman and Billy Robinson and ports. They're talking about a some girls. They had the night before that were very very underage very inappropriate. And they're you know these big shooters and Larry Need says you. You can stop that kind of talk now in the dressing room. I have a family and you know these guys. Are these guys tough guys? Horse Hoffman comes up to Larry. Haning Larry Ending stands up. Like you're going to do something. I like horse going to do something I swear to you. Larry Haney took his two fingers bled pal in his eyes end of the day. Are you kidding? Don't poke right and that horse horse do nothing nothing. His eyes were. So this is Larry. Any time in and his is just call. E Quincy out what ability do not a damn thing Healy Robinson's coward. He only beat you up. If you know you can't Yes sir. Now that he's not good at what he does. I'm not saying that like there was a guy named George Ankle. The train me Billy Robinson didn't want nothing to hide nor did Carl. They pretend respected each other but about going back to alert accenting top dude family are GonNa have your first match with Larry. They actually I can't you couldn't be any more intimidating intimidated positional because of WHO. This guy was so what happened. How did you guys have a short conversation before the magic? Of course Larry. I can't imagine there's a whole lot of communication in the ring being baying boom. Let's go home because this what happened. Okay now the four bagpipers are dressed to the hill right. There's a bass drummer with the big fluffy hat. He's got a plan to scratch. Boom Boom and to snare drummers fifthly one hundred sixty seven wherein the kilt from the band. Yeah Okay and this is all I know that Larry. Any sad through the promoter elbaum go this is what I got. Just be like a Greyhound bus and leave the driving to us. What does that mean? Excuse me clarity so my pipe and started and as they were playing me out my first name is Rodrick short for Rodrick. Roddy that's what the announcer new and he had to say something. And he said Ladies and gentlemen here comes Roddy Piper Right and Larry. Face was red. There was smoke coming. His is yet like because there was no music was Sawdust also busy dodgers insulted him. Sir upstage in exactly. I didn't know it. You're green grass. How dare again my first match right? Louie showmanship what's the production the bombing nat and Larry's in the ring? My all God move rod and all I really remember is kind of like getting being it was must ride short short bus ride Sir Tatton Shortest Matching Esp at the Winnipeg arena lasted ten seconds including the three count and he broke my nose split mile. And I got back to the dressing or have my head down. You know wasn't very I used to think I was tough. Not Anymore and it was mad. Dog was in the locker room and I and I just put my head down and they used to have these shoes called Penny loafers. Yeah Ya UE. They put pennies. I could see the promoter I could just see the penny loafers because my sight was rather small. Yeah and I thought he's going to twenty five bucks and he said Ted. You did great. How'd you like to Kansas City? Come on and they had closer. They had great great and they put me in a van that night and they when it come to the United States they put the the mats from the van over me and I just need. Just ask my kids sleep and right and I never stopped and for the first four years. They beat me up every night but the first four years. I didn't have a number a debt so I was expendable so I was very handy tool to Iraq. All of a sudden I match you know you lose amateur status Europe pro kids. You did good. We're going to Kansas City. So how long does this decision making process last because all you got is you so you just pack up and go what I because I didn't have anything like at the Utah Still. There's no closet right you know. And it's every other day and then like you care any fly box and I got a ride I you know. I think it's more out of fear. Scared say no. We'll talk to me about on job training then because technically no one ever really taught you pro wrestling. You learned in the ring. Yes Aggression Go. And and what kind of cats were you work with? Obviously you're most likely working baby face working with big ASS hills. It could lead you through match if that's what it is. You know you learn you. Learn the basics the very basics of psychology by taking an aspirin from a vicious. He'll yeah right yeah they have before they let you get some offense in all four years really liked. My second match was against superstar. Billy Graham on ferns television superstar. Take Care of you. You know what I tell you. He might he might best Larry he might have got it done in nine seconds. When I came down the it was it was all went down these steps in this. Kinda grimy little place superstar was coming from behind me and He looks at me and he goes. You know we were a little short on time to give you more. I looked at him like BS and he cracked up laughing. Right right he loved me from really really. You've been around by then. Who is the first guy to really kind of take you wing shine you up and make you look like somebody attire? When you know seriously for four years every day at eight o'clock in the night they took pleasure in stretching me. Well yeah you know for like four years and but you know and again you and me from a generation removed from each other. But that's just the way I hear it was that you're here to say that's the way it well. I'll give you. We'll get into Holland. I got a genius as a mentor. But just before that. Do things like this we would drive than from. Winnipeg gotTA drive all night to Minneapolis TV. The guy's name was Dave Mir and Bobby Jones with the old timers in the backseat and they wouldn't put the heat on. They said they were too hot. And I had a Bologna Sandwich and a bottle seven up for to eat and finally the bottle seven exploded frozen exploded. Jesus I'm also. There was a time when license plates for odd. And even you could only get gas on those timed and so they. They had a six foot credit card for me and they stopped by like because every farm had this pink gas that was cheaper and gas and bring it to the cars and every damn farm seem to have a German shepherd. I didn't speak rather get bit by the dog. Then what's going to happen to me and then like in Dallas just to kind of give you an idea of my job in Dallas I stayed the only guy I think get kicked out of the Alamo Plaza Hotel and in Dallas. They don't clean the rug. They just put another layer on. And you kicked out for my dog ate the owners poodle. God's name was a pit bull never fought and so I had a Vega hatchback. I sleep in. He kept the cooler open so he could get water and Vegas. Seventy two seventy three. Yeah Yeah and there's someplace can't remember but in Dallas. My job was Fritz game to me. My job was to give get wrestled change and get. The Fire Marshall's daughter and take her out and make sure that she enjoyed wrestling that way. Fritz could get more people than the fire cold allow right but those kind of jobs never ended right so without getting into that and got a moving on. So I'd maybe worked twelve territories and I got sent to La but while you were there before we got to La. Yeah I mean you you have fire as a baby face. You have fire. Somebody face ain't got far as hill. You had a mean streak. I mean I believe you have to have two key things that I think. A person needs to succeed in business pro wrestlers fires. A baby face mean streak is A. He'll you just got you. You had to have fought for some of the stuff. You were getting there to to start that fire fire individuals anyway you have a seemingly chip on the shoulder always trying to kick and scratch your way forever because nothing was handed to you but you were having to fight for what you were getting in that ring because I know you had to shine some. Yeah you had to fight for that against veterans it. It came after a while that I just fight as hard as I could cause He'll try yeah and I'll tell you I tell you. This is a family Yes there's a lot of stories that happened to me when I finally got to the Olympic Auditorium. There's this guy named Leo Gear Bali now for anybody. That's interested wants to become a pro wrestler. I used to go to UCLA. Melnik Hall and you Can Watch Gorgeous George Warren Balk winco Lille Garibaldi. When he was sixteen his dad. The whole thing real real frame by frame. I used to study them. And so now you get these the booker bread so what they did in those days was like I would spend six weeks in Texas and Amarillo for funk doing doing jobs six weeks in Dallas doing jobs six weeks and Casey doing jobs so the faces were new right and then shipped off to La to do that. Hey Man Yona richer home sure you do and I bet it can be hard work you know. What's easy bundling policies with Geico? 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I'm sure so I come in. And he looks at me like and he just pauses in what's going through his head. Is I got a skinny lake. Kid playing the bagpipes of baby-faced what am I going to do with this right? He comes to me. Keep this man is right. He says I'm GonNa give you a big break. I'm in maybe think about how man he said. The guy's name was jabil ru whose real name was johnny rods but when he was on the West Coast. He put the days in curtains around his head as a two and Resolute Java rook he says I want you to go in there and don't lay a glove on him just let them beat you up and he walked away and I thought to myself. Wow won't what was I couldn't beat the guy up anyways so I got into ring or the program go with the program and he just beat the dog out me and TV was on Wednesdays and the house was on Friday the next Wednesday TV. There was this big campaign for cigarettes. I got a manager of his camel or whatever it was and there was a cowboy with a black eye and it said I'd rather fight than switch Leo Garibaldi. The next Wednesday had a t shirt that said. I'd rather switch than fight. And He made me Jab rooks manager early and from there they put a mic in my hand. I don't know why Steve. I don't like parties. I'm show we've gone through that. I just don't have a problem with the camera. I don't know what I I never wanted to be one. I some things I don't know but I but I saw an opening then guy named judo. Jean Lebel I know gene talk about. Ib maybe sending eighteen now and he saw how bad get up and he said come here and he took me under his wing for law. I still don't know who Jean Lebel has. One of the most celebrated stunt guy. Tough guy in judo guys sweetest guy in the world. Beautiful such a sweetheart. I met him at the Honda. And I'm a cauliflower dealership. Buy Little Scooter. He's just the greatest so he says kid toughen you up absolute. He took me So Friday nights before the matches all the guys have thought they were tough and wanted to be a wrestler. They came early. Well he put me in the ring with them and just instructional as we went along this. This guy's beating the trash shutting me and it's Kinda like jeans on you might want to block. I get up and I started. And then he started taking me down to the Dole Joel and like he trained Bruce Lee Chuck Norris. She's only giving away twenty one dot belt. He's eighty years old still. I love him. I wrote prefaces for his book but he showed me how to take care of myself. And at that same time I was doing things like playing the Cucaracha on the bagpipes. And that was how I got my first break and before I know you're GonNa get the question with Lille go body. I WANNA show you how. What a genius. He was so. We're driving to Bakersfield just Leila myself and you know again like you explain. I would listen to these guys for hours till I was. GonNa Puke Brag throw up and I just like but the thing was. I wasn't getting it. You're GonNa tell me that story again. I'm GonNa keep told a delight. Ceo Bell ringing and we're going to Bakersfield and there was a tanking called Gordon and Goliath and they hated Travel Barreiro. Who was the top baby face time? There's a big jealousy thing so on the way there I said too. So what's going to happen tonight? And all this kind of stuff. Then he says I'm GONNA have Chabot. Beat Gorman one of the yeah whatever. Yeah and he's keeps talking wrestling and stuff and so we get to Bakersfield and I'm sitting there and it's a little round building and Neil Garibaldi. Lays out the biggest bunch of Baloney. Nothing that he told me that I've ever heard it was so bad. Everything so bad that all of a sudden Gorman Goliath they're getting hot and they're have Hispanic have English talking basketball and now they hate me. This is all of a sudden. Gordon goes under over just to show you. That's genius right that ragging. And he started to me the psychology. Yeah and then he said the moves are just a translation for the psychology. Right as words are right for changing thoughts right. Brilliant he but but the light went off in your head. A Gorman said okay this is what we'll just and then I started listening right but it's funny because when you're talking to some young cats every now and then you can tell them to the to the to your blue in the face but sometimes and you can just see it. Yeah we've been. Their experience is not really going in yet. Just not ready to go in exactly at a certain level it will start to be able to sink in some people will always be impervious to it. Some will soak it in sooner than others. Yeah that's just the way the business is it is and you can tell I know you. If you're driving down the road you see somebody younger. You know almost in the beaten half as were the wonderful guy but yeah and sometimes you gotta go through the process just to find out but so anyway oh you guys the goes off and your brain and you're getting. Promo time he gave. Leo Gave You Mike so men I mean where were your promos coming from? I mean like you're known as being one of the best promo guys of all time. It's always funny to me when someone wasn't laid down their top five promos and you know most people to think about the thing about wrestling thing about the entering product or the microphone is is really subjective by large for the most part that is subjective but among top guys. That's a different story. Yes Oh when I would say my top talkers. You are on that list different. There's good and bad and there's people that don't know is like I love rock and roll music. Some of my best friends play rock and Roll Guitar. I can listen to the same thing here. Let's do but I don't really get it. I get it on my level. So we're talking on a higher level so with that being said. What was the genesis of the hot rod or just Roddy Piper Promo in general holy cow? Good for you want to deliver for you is that you did it. Really good and with respect I love you. I'll tell you choose At that time I was harboring So much humiliation and anger and rejection no pity party during the question. You know straight up And I've been beat up beat up so many times one time to the point. I was taken to a hospital and they didn't. They couldn't figure out who was that. When I got that Mike I just let it out and it was like therapy and I had so much in it I I was. You know. Everything's my fault but I remember when I was thirteen. I had is kind of silly but I sat on a curb in a town and I started crying and all about two three hours later. Figured out no one's going to call them right. I guess you better get out. Mum's not GonNa make you this and other things that happen and so I can say anything. You got it grand then. The more as I went along I started to change the structure of interviews because like the crusher our The our billy's grandma. All Great Dusty. Rhodes over great but they like. I'm GONNA rip your rib-cage Out Terry your eye out but that never happened right so I learnt I started a system. Where if I said it. I had to try to do it. Otherwise you lose all your credibility right. You're building credibility and you know what and when one works for you. You get a tremendous amount of confidence. Saw the one that really worked for me was I had Allah sitting on a donkey painted his zebra. Like I got the idea in Tijuana and I had a t shirt that said Khun Chris Doors of the Guerreros still in La at this time in La. Mike like rolling and some barrel. I and I got a a piece of tree. Branch with the string and ecology alright rushed to the area now now that TV when all over the world in Spanish. I still remember the number. Are I nine five? One seven one. I think it was channel fifty four thirty to fifty four still going. The president of the channel got so hot went to. We're going to take them off TV. I'll eat and I'm going knaw in you apologize apologize. Salt Lake eight took about two weeks of. Tv's and I said. The data is the word in Spanish for bagpipes. I said listen. I have socio. I'm so sorry and all right. I'm trying to learn the MAC. It's hard because it's a Scottish instrument do I buy okay overslept? May Say I got it when you come on Friday Nights. I'm playing okay. Saw Baby I got up in that ring and the announcers name was Jimmy Lennon. Who saved my life? Great man you saved my life guy. Shoot me another story so I got to Jimmy Lennon. Please tell them to be quiet. Scanned for the Mexican national anthem spell rat brother stood up babies in their arms total commitment and over. The course Coulda here to pin drop. At that moment I went to myself. I wonder and before I knew. I'd say Ni Niran DA DA DA DA DA. All the chairs were bolted. The chairs came up the first success. Blow stabby the match. Never got started by watts shooting. Heat straight up. He had too much to the white right. Roz Alight and it need radiate business and gave me a confidence boost so now I got gene nine starting to form my own formula and then Just like an incredible bunch of talented guys that were teaching me. You know credible mind but you. You love being a hill. I'm a born Dearborn. I hate the I wanted to be. Because that's what I say. No different background but Shag kid for me. Just being he'll having that freedom and you know you you can't fail you can. You can not not a good deal. Yeah and I mean you can't fail from the performance standpoint it's execution and it would real. I made my biggest baby face or maybe a gray area baby face but you love being a hill. I still would be one sport. T-ball can show comes from our friends at rocket mortgage by quicken lunch home. 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Already gun that studio people in here watch. This is my first time here to podcast one studios in Beverly Hills. I'm back from Texas. I got all kinds of technology made notes for Rowdy Roddy Piper. I knew as soon as we got in a room. We just start shooting the breeze. So here's the thing you're in L. A. All the time so so you can drop in and out as much as you want on. We're just we're just doing audiocasts. Anything CHRONOLOGICAL THEY. Do this show for the working man and woman and as long as they're happy. I'm happy obviously you'll be laughing your ass you got to get that shows your ranges and I very soon I send you a couple balls. I put you in a sleeper. You reverse that and you got to sleep or so. Where do you WanNa go with this? You want to stay in. La Or you WanNa talk about Piper's pitchy talking about NWEA. What about the dog collar match? I mean we're all over the place. Where do you WANNA go? Well because I know you love being a hill it but you're scrappy and you had to work for every single because man just just always tried want the younger generation to learn something out of the show. When I talk to people like you. Obviously I don't talk to people in your ballpark but you know what I'm saying. So this is a guy who was a hill because he won't you know if a lot of things that happened in your life but it from from the performance part of wrestling you want it to be hated him here. I love and your because I always always thought this about you. Ready our thought that as a heel you can make every single person hates you. Were divided there was a small smidgen. But those yeah that that's that's just because and when you were a baby face you made people love you. There wasn't there. It was almost all or nothing with you. And that's that's is about a good accomplishment as you can give a guy who's trying to be a healer trying to be a baby high. They the thing was like when you worked territories when I learnt was you had to come in as a heel and then turn baby face because you got a double run right and what guys don't understand and then you're finished territory for L. La for instance. You go to Portland. Nobody knows who the hell you are right. Quick do it is so like I'm scared to leave. La Because I'm on top and you know and these are good. Things are good rod white beer because if you really WanNa do this one thing that I watched all the time was my progression in my age. I was ready to take a left hand. Turn if things weren't going good and you were still very very young. Yeah in the wrestling business. Jeez yeah they'll to Jeeze what was I going to tell you know you're going to Portland wrestling. It's a dime store okay. So anyway finally I got the guts to go and it's it's live live TV. Donald Donald if you don't know it was a wonderful man and like Thanksgiving he would bring Turkeys for the boys. In one year they had the midgets so like you bought them Cornish in ranch. And he's a good ole got so it's my first day in the territory and you know he's heard whatever so all right. He's announcing and I'm in the ring and I tell him like shut up for the Scottish National Anthem. Whatever boom blood. The bags and I used to play 'em like Jack. Benny just totals actual torture to me. Earlier they start booing. Thank you baby all of a sudden don stop stop. Stop Me Stop. Stop says now. I can't play the bagpipes and neither can you. Let's give him another chance. Never mind never mind. Just take the bag fights now now. So you know I always ran into. This was a story And then so in Portland What I learned from L. A. I started to be able to apply with knows no restrictions and here. Nobody knew what I was doing. That was really important to keep that to yourself in the cold. What you're doing you keep yourself You never never open up and so what I learned from La. I used in Portland when I learned from. La Important in the next shot was Charlotte ran. We get Charlotte LANDON AND CROP. Wall out of control by this time to the business had been swelling. Okay out of control. Yeah Party and you dogging I'm talking about you know or even call at Party and it was. It was a lifestyle lifestyle caught up in the highs of being in the business and successful. You guys are flying with anyone and to do. It was bulletproof. Bulletproof asked US gun slamming cars and you know just a bad and wild bad bad but you know had a stint I know but but I mean there. I say acceptable back. Then these were this. This is what that era was one of the ways. Because we didn't have the media we would get attention for instance Jay York. Would we come out of a small town in J York with a twelve football? Whip around him a buck knife. Six five three hundred pounds. Go to a restaurant. GimMe a dozen age. The pound of Bacon and then Gorgeous George would be down in the beauty parlor with the window getting his hair down and so that's the way and then Piper just got arrested all right good. We got a car. You don't Rice But like people start. We started losing people. Rag will lose them fast for all kinds of different reasons And so I come to the dog collar match. We just you know trying to get there. No but but but and listening and reading about you you spoke to there was a period and you went to a real black hole. I May I guess maybe might have been one of your really low points and The business had been losing a lot of guys. Yeah what was that the wake-up call for you to back a little bit moderation are using. You just hit a bad spot and you stayed there for a while. I'll tell you I'm being honest. I'll tell you what happened to me where I got kicked into. I don't care with our live or die. Bright as So I'll take us back to La for a second Vince McMahon Senior and Mike La Belle. The promoter here in La you know all promoters every Monday. They'll talk. And I had this House and I did. You have topics. And so. He's Mike above bragging about me and He has been junior Vince Senior. Rather Cup. Bring me in. And I don't know maybe I was nineteen twenty whatever that is holy cow so I come into Madison Square Garden. I come in in the car and They picked me up. And I like. There's some kind of new young wrestlers Andre the giant. Tony Islas Bobby Backman and Bruno. Sammartino just a couple of Nature Hall of famers a little guys and I'm probably again about a buck eighty and the bagpipes woodwind instrument. You'd have to play a little bit before you go out when I first came into the garden. Captain Luevano comes to me and he squeezed my Jay. Don Any any give me a hug is wrestling. We don't want you here. We've been watching you on that Spanish. Get outta here. You didn't know that was a shoot at the task. I thought it was wrestling and Freddie blassie classy Freddie Baz yeah Kane and come over and slamming my Shins. I know not react by now. Your Kid Pencil mckeag. We don't want Nice guys right. Yeah warmed up the bagpipes and I pulled him. Aside and the truth is I was doing push ups trying to live one hundred eighty one pound usually anything anything going. I way I come out there and of course. Tell them all to shut up for the Scottish National Anthem. Madison Square Gardens. Just twenty four thousand word Ricans with them awhile and but like I knew I was confident. Promoters came from Japan Germany and Manju out there to look at this boy wonder Helen. Damn opportunity to nineteen in the most you in and as we know boom went to play the bagpipes and nothing. Kimmo and again I came fifth in the world I'm changing the spark plugs on the fly the oil. What's going a lot now? I'm scrambling them. Glad to the guy do the finish. Come back to the locker room literally. Don't call us. We'll call you left in a cab back to the airport and saw like I totally fell on my face and everybody was happy about it because I I had been on top so young that you know they wanted you to fail back then so it was a little brutal from that perspective but by me I went what happened and I grabbed the bag pipes in the cab. I was really I was like a dealer in. I don't know what I'm saying so you didn't know that you had been screwed. No you're about to find that out upon examination back go ahead because like all of a sudden the matches over. I'm back get out. You failed a fail. Yeah get out and you don't know why you failed not a clue so what happened and I I like. I barely showered. I literally get out now. And there's a cab and I go back and I'm Juno. I'm I'm pretty Crestfallen at this point. And then what the Heck Bagpipes. And when they said they didn't want me they meant it and Crestfallen turn two straight up rage and anger at re humiliate sabotage. You back pipes. Freddie blassie put six feet of toilet paper where your fingers are as call the chanter put six feet of toilet paper up there. So they wouldn't work is like if you were Elvis Presley and coming to get any you cut his Mike Off. Right right all calm and you know I was. I didn't have anybody else by myself. I didn't have any family and I got really mean and didn't really didn't care if I lived tonight everyday and almost push Presa awry. I almost want to be put on my misery so when I got into bad situations I looked like courage but it was coward to. I'll just pull right into would It was hard shot. That was a very hard shot but along with that on top of the way you come up through your youth getting on the road at such a young age learning the business like you did and then all of a sudden you're gaining confidence momentum. Steam the big opportunity They they flat out. Tell you they don't want you there. And then they approve. You don't know what's going on and all of a sudden then there's the screw job and that's when everything turns originated almost seems like our. I created a thing Roddy back in the day. I told Brian Kelvin. After attack them in a ring and I told him. Dt brother don't don't trust anybody. It sounds like you were eleven. Twenty four seven. Yeah I still have trust issues. Yeah yes and I can't open up about the business side but you know I it huge Mick Foley. Shed some then. Let's just stay here for a second. It might be interesting to to your fans As you know we won't say about someday. We'll talk about how professional wrestling starting the day. But like what you gotta understand this gorgeous George and all those boys and people coming in cats and ties and minks okay and all of a sudden I dunno fifty nine sixty sixty one. There's businesses corrupt falls on. Its face but there was all these guys like thirty five that we're going to be the next main event there over two getting another job. They've got families and fall and so they all form territories and now I come you kidding me. You know this this kid I've got. That was your attitude right. They didn't want it and they were very happy. I failed saw agitation. That in I went a long time meaning I went through from L. A. Too Poor Linda Charlotte where a guy with a knife. I just came at him. He stabbed me and I didn't care honestly didn't get to Atlanta. Were things really out of control and you know who I wanted to take over the world. Was Jim Barnett Right. And he had me sign a contract with all the Anderson had one of the very first contracts and his friend was in Chicago Tribune Guy and he didn't WanNa bust borders and after the signing the contract they fired me and blackballed me and over the entire world and I had my my at that time. My first child and they set me up. I was with Tommy. Rich added double shot. Tommy rich accidentally whatever when one hundred miles long way and had to turn around Chattanooga and there was cops pose to anyway you know made the double shot late and they fired me and they turned me into the IRA rash and they blackballed me around the world. And that's where I evolved ric flair so much because at that time by I could only go to Lake Japan. Sing What is that Senator Bingo and I gotta I gotTa child and saw and you know when I got I got blackballed and all this happened. My wife and I go to a movie and it was just the first show of ramble. Hot Come Out of that movie grenade launchers ready to get back on a mission. Benca no I then somehow got back with Crockett and you know then. Their whole stark aid thing took place. I guess my point is this. So when the gorgeous era and you've got all these guys let me put this all together now makes sense Mick Foley I. I Love Mickey. He's a really great guy. I seen him. So what are you saying this? He said this he says you know. I've been mankind. Dude love whatever and he says. There's you know like kind of like you. Roddy where you lived at the only voice of it. I found that really interesting and respectful. Because here's the truth to regain the the respect for the industry. You had to be the Guy. Twenty four seven if you went into a bar and someone said fake. I was all over you because and flair. They want a because people were. And these guys even withholding he's holding twenty four seven flare. I could get with my family later. But you had to be that guy from about seventy three ish to now we're coming up to eighty and then the fans there was a whole swelling of professional wrestling is getting who'll again and not a tbs then then they then they fired my ass fired me but it's a really great observation on. Mick Foley's part but the mound of sacrifice not only those three men I just mentioned but many others like that made for our sport business They gave their lives to it. And that's where I get mad and take care of your own is like and I. You know I love incident. It's a six was developing And but what? They don't know what we did for their business. And the last point I'll make omniscious wrestlemainia one after it was finished. She Hogan and McMahon wrote this big party. Bobby Ordinance I everybody was gone. A car was gone. There was nothing no security. We walked down that round thing to the bottom. And there's a policeman on a horse and we realize serious and we just busted up that don't know how many people just hitten swinging got a cab. Drove away when you get treated like that sometimes day after day and you're constantly fighting and then the people will come after my family you know. Knocked MR T. Down Kick Cindy lauper slapped. Whatever whatever I've got people coming after my family It was a full time job and you had to live it so and the way I kinda got out of. It was when my first child was born. I want This is Corny. Min I wa. I watched an episode of the Waltons and there was a Christmas Walton. Then they had the family around eating the Turkey and stuff and and I. I wanted to have that family and then all of a sudden the Laos with got pregnant. And there's an old saying you need a license to hunt. You need elation fish. Any unique in the advocate takes a man to be a father and it wasn't overnight but I I wanted to be a good dad and and I got really dark there. That was very you know that would have been the entire eighties. I was really hard to deal with. Okay we'll we'll we'll put the brakes on right now. I'm getting high signed from Stacey in there and the other side of that window so we're going to put it to a close here. We're GONNA come back next week. Continue down the same path. 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"Thank you for listening to this. Podcast one production now available on spotify apple podcasts. Podcast one dot com in anywhere else. You podcasts Stevenson. Show is brought to you free today about our friends. Ben Online. Get into mixed bit online dot. Ag and use the Promo Code. Podcast one for your fifty percent. Welcome bonus but online your online sportsbook experts and exclusive partner of podcast. One sports podcast. One presents the Steve Lost Show classics. I got rowdy. Roddy five or whatever you into I hung around with the drink and Grad and the bad that was my thing and I never one dad of the year and all and still trying to build a relationship with my girls to this day and period of time where I was always gone and when I was home I was gone as well. Yeah so But the drink thing and Tend to not go into specifics on the street when when anybody talked about living life partying. You were the guy. No one can add Bharti Rowdy Roddy Piper and so when I turned into a monster and get out of control I mean I mean you are functional but yeah I look back at some of the decisions I made and I was pretty hot. Headed back in in you know and I was always a business guy and I was always there. Stay late but it's a different animal to deal with now. I could see that now. Yeah I didn't see it then I was so far and forced to consign trees. Yeah big time Law and then. Here's another instance of why even got deeper So the first before it wasn't Wrestlemainia. It was war to settle the score decided everything and all of a sudden they want me to take a dive for hall in the Water South Score. Now he's the champion and always they gotta he'll that in five weeks. Six weeks is harder than any yielded ad right. So but New York under the thinking of the billions of big Guy baby-faced territory. They wanted me to. I'm sorry I can't well y because it's wrong business if I'm coming back in a tag right guy so you wanNA switch. He's out and then do the tag. That's different that I saw on story. I I got kids. I got ice cream bars to right. Then it came wrestlemainia. One and this is a good place to do this. When could you got When I was talking Steve. You folks You know I was honored by and so I'm talking to him as he says to be so. Is there really heat with you? And Mr T. it changed the Hulk Operas Asian and I thought you're shooting with me. I thought he was going to be here and I was ready to go. No I just heard so many feet store I mean the legitimate about when you walk into meeting you came in late. There was a chair with your name tag on it. And they're not and you know he. He Flexes Arms. You grabbed his head house. Affiliate said solved exactly. You didn't know that you weren't supposed to touch mister. Cain no no no no so did he come in with all these rioters and his contract upset as opposed to touch the guy. This is what he did this business back then and not get touched that Gatlin giving him up wall. Here's here's the thing is what wasn't understood the entire wrestling. Profession was on my shoulders to a certain extent as far as all the all the guys. Hey and don't make a fool of US right now Mr T. wants to come in now. He's probably the world's biggest TV celebrity at that time during that and he wants some kind of like a bouncer contest but he came in with pretty four. I'm T- with that. All Man and he wanted to come in and slam our heads and make fun of us and you got the wrong guy. You're trying to put acid in marina. He had zero zero respect. Right and I'm on the stage in Rockefeller Center. And he blindsides me. And they dis me off the stage I come up with McMahon said I saw those is she said of yours thank you for being a pro You're not welcome right knowledge. Why you you have T- and here's the heat get it is. He's oblivious to how ignorant yet Zell Peter Principle in the height of his own ignorance and I I said no man. I'm not for them over. Which started my reputation so many one right one okay. Now now I watched the night. It wasn't the most fluid match. I've seen for obvious reasons because of that dynamic there are some obvious hilarious. Talent in the match itself. Yeah when you take him out of the equation of course some trademark bumps at Bob. Morton took just incredible vermeer buddies from way back. Hogan Hobson knows how to work at worker crowded and do what he does but there was a moment in their do adamant front face lock. I taught communication problems bad understanding. What's going on? Yes sir? I was up front. Face I was is it was hooked and the thing is he was running out of breath right and so When I came to to Vince is at a meeting in his office and laid them on the phone. Don't I heard that? He wrestled amateur amateur. Don't let them throw a punch and if you watch it. There's nothing to tell that store. Front facial optum let them get out of breath and a little bit at the same time. It's the timing thing you know. It's business in Rome and you know and now Vince is house. He Vince put his house up. Here's something that I've never circled around much here is Hey. There was a spot responsibility on my shoulders that everybody else who owned or Orden Hogan they were all there all great but I got a guy. That's putting his house up. That means something to me right. I've got to make this work right and I sometimes. I don't think Vince realizes how what we had to do to make that work. It was really difficult right and But no grace of God. We'RE COMING UP ON WRESTLEMAINIA thirty. Yeah we're coming up on thirty. I want to talk to you about this quickly. Go to two in a boxing match. I watched that it was what was a hand. You have a boxing background from your days at the Y. Yeah horrible I tell you it was. It was horrible. Yeah we're two guys. We're to save level. Yeah it was horrible. It's tough to work a match like that. Hit all you can. You can do your best. Do your best to get through it. Here's what happened. Hard to tell a great story. Hidetada great story man. You got to have somebody to tell the story back. Here's what happened. Mcmahon took me off the road and threw me in a camp in Reno with Lou Duva. Tiro big springs backed Braxton tyrod Holyfield and all of a sudden six weeks dying and so now it comes time to get in the ring and this is what they do to me. Because I'm waiting for a high sign. Vince go forward if he can. This is what they did to me. They had me make a fist and then they taped up my fists and then they put my fist in the globe. Right now the commentating Vince. And this lady. This lady had no experience at it zero. It was it was really bad so anyway so now I'm needing T- like this is what's going through my head gone. I WANNA take this guy out but if I take him out what what's been what is. Yeah what's the context and but if I can get him to do anything hit me with AL did anything can justify it right and ventures and giving me no nothing right. Are anybody else. So I'm in the ring with this guy and they wanted once boy answer. No no I've just ask just to go into the to that big of a match second wrestlemainia and to really have almost all creative but no creative. Yes you're you're boxed in and now they they want they want me to get leash not down. Vike right okay. So I'm not sure maybe the second or third round again remember but all right and what I was going to do was was going left. Hooked me and I was going to go through the ropes onto the floor. So I'm getting around that piece of business and all of a sudden I realized not only do. I have some gloves on my fist. I I got. You can't hit the road I can't and I'm I'm kind of looking and I'm I'm I don't know seven to ten feet and it's common and your we go. I went for long. He missed the left. Are you kidding? You missed the punch and I'm in Flight K. and I got back up in the next round. I took the stool. I threw it at him as hard as I could do. Choke I think across the ring with force it. Yeah Yeah took a hunk of meat out of them and it was like just and again. We're taught if got a problem with somebody figured out in the locker room. This is business as beat into me. And you know what I just I can't remember slammed him or something and get out of it. It's how one of my most shameful you guys were on fire shift gears but you guys wouldn't fire an NWEA. I mean Crockett and things are on fire. We'll talk about the Valentine deductor mess next time around but I want to go back to where the business was As far as the lifestyle selling tickets because you guys had lit up down there was on fire. You get to call you go to wwf the big show. Yeah and you know obviously when I came up ten years behind you. Wwf was always a big leagues. I think should I can. I mean you know pretty much. Almost the same ballgame Charlotte was big was was like worldwide off you dead but you know it ended up being a big leagues so then you go there and you know you have Hulkamania running as well as his running your obviously gigantic part of that. So you guys doing crazy business. Yeah what was the mindset because you owned visit for a friend of mine and my old hunting partner from my saw Oscar Oscar the grouch. Daddy Bob Bob my favorite workers. So did you did you guys you. You said you like to travel our sleep by yourself and your own hotel rooms but you guys have been traveling together constantly. How was that? I mean three cool cats. They're on the same page going down the road together. I tell you as wrong as this Mesa. I'll tell you what we fly to. There was like a Bobby Orton. Morocco Fuji. We brought Brad Hart into it much. Shelve Oh Adrian in a couple of names that kind of what we finally had to do. It was so much trouble is every night somebody would pick the Would surrender the room and in that room. Anything you want it. I don't try to lead. Because we're all GonNa stop you talk about some rustling philosophy and whatever's going on drinking a beer. You know four hours covering up a if you try to leave the room we would all snatch and cut that bad. That was the only way that we could figure out and we were all trying to buy. Shave are all gotta but you know the sessions and yeah the knowledge right holy cow. It was you can't get it anymore. But what knowledge like that with all the guys you just named but won't you guys are getting lit up and everything's going on and you have a very dynamic personality? I can only imagine that magnified maybe one hundred thousand times. I mean along with very salty gas in their own right with the most wonderful Who had lots of time with those ingredients in a room? Jesus Christ had there been a camera roll and force morality. Holy Cow Baby. Jesus so so once you got to a certain area you talk about forty eight hours into the night and I was always kind of one of those guys love to be around the guys for a while and I kinda like to do what I call power walk and do my own thing and limiter mainly on Greek inside but delve into other areas and and I'm just speaking like it is and we're not going crazy but all you can't sit in a room and so then you turned up I mean how did you turn down. You know I never did. I was the worst of them all right. And if we put the background that we talked about and then all of a sudden I'm back in New York now. No one's going to take it from me. This time right all I had it out with Scholz at many hallways with Jimmy Snuka. What happened with you and Schultz Schultz? I shoulder as a bully. And he thinks he's a tough guy and he was a Taiwan. One day. We're in Poughkeepsie. And in the hallway. I hear the screaming and Holden's down on his tummy and shoulders riding them and kind of cross facing screaming. What are you GONNA do now? The now the truth of it is because of the hallway. Hope couldn't get his arms out right. Brady's and he's making a big scene bride. He's got any wants to brag. And so later I make I was doing a Promo with Oscar Anne Schultz and I think like two hundred and fifty four seconds. And so you say Oscar. You Mean Paula Paulo doctor. I'm Dr De and what Dr did was close. Put his shoulder right next to or doors to block me up. And they talked the entire interview with an with about seven seconds left. I put one hand on. Scholtz one hand on orndorff jumped over and said Roddy Piper giantkiller. Now I WANNA do. And she'll said can I speak to you Betcha and we went behind the curtain and he says you know I don't appreciate. I don't really give a damn what you appreciate next time. You try to block me like that. I'm GonNa tear your part what he say. He just looked at me to see those bluffing. You weren't bluffing. No Sir Right. So he left you alone any walking in loser. But as sometimes you've gotta your ground and and many times and it's menace survival of the fittest and you're going to get your stuff and get smoked. That's right so then you also mentioned snooker you had some Come to Jesus. Moment was smoke in the hallway. Oh Yeah I just thought coconut thing. You've you've told this story mean times when most famous piper pits of all time when you when you smash them in the head with a coconut I get that now and business. You know but I'm talking about here in a hallway. What was it? Do you catch. I thought maybe it'd be like two peas in a pod doing business while okay rush Vince and Hogan I started their their play in the W. W. F. They couldn't get anybody over Chinook. He was so overnight so what they did is they put snuck in a cage match against Morocco and one of the most fantastic either machine Chinook slams Morocco and I don't know fifteen twenty minutes into it climbs to the top of the cage corner got his little tolls wrapped around. Does a full squat then comes up with his hands like a swan leaning back looks at the brother. Angles shores in cameras are gone up at Poem Ball Hallway. Aqa and he didn't pin rockall rockall kicked out and went out the door and that was finished and Jimmy is a very wonderful simple man and then he realized what happened was at the same time. There was another situation in his private life allegation that was working on him and I hit him with the coconut. And I the broader is down and you mean and I would just like Chicago and I'm in the in the three o'clock in the morning. I'm in hallway and I don't know where you come schnookered just diving at me. But here's the truth. He was drinking and a little bit and the truth is like when he dove at me. I just like I got him by the hair and just gently. It wasn't art. I am not it was like it was like. Hey easy bud just please don't hurt me but like it and then. I be none Iran and one time in Oakland and he's sitting next to me on wrestling and he goes and he's Cryan art as you know if we are self you know like along nine soul. I went out in the ring. It was Oakland a lot of small ones. And so there's a spot where Jimmy Slam me. And he should stay. He went up to the top now. I got his eyes locked right. I gotTa make a decision real quick here because I heard that was snug to begin with. Ya and what I did was he came down and I thought to myself. Well try to save the nose and I moved my face about three inches to allow match finished. I got back. He comes storming through that door. You moved the whole night. You'll move you don't trust me you holly that added added out of that. Holly is word. Hawaiians used for white people. That's like a drugstore derogatory. Thank you and Every night I won't do this every night with this guy but I love him. I love him with all my heart but for the fan. It wasn't this jolly jolly you know. We have some fun but it was very competitive and it was life life threatening without a doubt. You brought up a name while ago. No no first of all before I move on ourselves dive now. The famous dive in Mick Foley was there was one of his stories he was there and I guess he hitchhiked a ride to the building. He was such a fan but I. I've forgotten the finish of the match. He did not win. The match with that Splash Morocco. Or Wow and that's how they got and then I did. The coke was doing. Josh is odd for me. Yeah I just got uglier number is she? There was a lot of click said. Yeah clicks but then all of a sudden when you when you're riding that momentum because there was times turned out some favors one time very famous night in Atlanta. I just know showed I mean what a what a what a stupid stupid thing to do and I was in a different world back then you know head space and Leona biggest regressive my live and I didn't handle my business like mad but You know when you when you get it back against the wall sometimes or you feel like the company's trying to derail yet. Yeah just slow you down. Yeah you do have to be about yourself and all about business and just in talking to you. I know you're all about the best buddy Sir and doing the job at hand a but when Hayden no Sir Mr T. and you know I had the whole wrestling industry and I couldn't let them make a few reputable boys. Yes and he's gone and is mad as everybody got. I can't do it guys right. And this is why and my. My reasons didn't amount two years but you mentioned the name a while ago. One of my favorites of all time and the match you had with Adrian. Adonis going back to the I. I loved Adrian's Workaholic. I loved his work is heal. Yes you the baby face at the time and I think y'all styles y'all's chemistry to me envisages talk from veterans as a fans standpoint just said those guys had crazy chemistry to me. I'm just guessing you loved working with Adrian and nods. He thought his brother when we when we were twenty two years old. We were called the twenty twos. I had to pull him off. Millman scare stretch at everybody and he was an orphan and so he didn't want to tough cab all. Yeah Yeah come up to me you know. He looked horrible big boy God bless Oh he and the Jim how do I look spike? Look Ula Ula great eighty. Eat more visual anything you want right performing for came from. I think it was either Rochester or Buffalo Is was a came from a little bit of a mob. Ish Background And He loved me. He saved me couple of times but the one big time we're poughkeepsie. And as you know is having issues and hot and he says come here. Come here because you know what's wrong with you. You need to buy a House. Put your kids in it. I'd never had. How wow I didn't know is living in crossing the Woodbridge Shopping Center in New Jersey. And like I've never had I didn't I still don't understand my children. I made sure that they were raised one. But I don't I don't have a place I grew up. I don't have and so I don't know it so I bought a home right and all of a sudden you're what again again four kids really so water and I use the last funeral I went to. I did the eulogy at his funeral. And you know. His wife was there and allergies to tell you I still do to die but I say I love you and a minute and you know you say that you mean she'd Gullit's wrong with you guys and then I remember avian and I were talking one time eighty and we're just talking and he says yes types. When I die I wanted to throw a party. I love you know and doing the eulogy and comes to mind and I said it and The casket was closed and the family was dragged off from lady. A sound of pain. I can't mimic right all. And then she came over to me and she said now I know why you guys said that right Still in the flower shop he had the Minnie Pearl hat with the Price Tag. Big All dress he. He's the only guy that can go and drag and drag how to say his and in Wrestlemainia three. He made sure that I got over. Its him that did it not me. It's in the did it. But the the chemistry that match and then time I think he was starting to get a little steam on your apple and the way he sold off my favorite matches about time and I think it takes a tremendous ass over tea kettle buzz. About yeah and he so. Brutus Rudas was down by the ringside. I'm not sure why how we got there. But here's a hair versus hair match. Now I have had like I had woman Guerrero and I lost so I just had five more of them. You know then the lose steep rolling with it but I learnt one thing. It's really hard to cut a man's air when it's wet right so as much as they think I was being a nice guy. I go brutus your back. And that's how he became Buddhism barber. Shoot Straight up should I? Don't you got Brutus Survivor? As exactly how he got out there with the shears he wouldn't bruce mode now. I can't remember why he came out. I can't like just watches. Matchup became about this year's and he hit him on a top Roper Adrian. Add sheers because then we talk about this year. Because we're GonNa Watch Youtube stupid work. You had to match you lived at. I watched it. We don't even know what's going on. We're talking president. I love it. This is the kind of bs that you get onto. Steve Austin show true art audio passed from one of the greatest of all five feet away from me. I love him and you own or at your home sure you do and I bet it can be hard work you know what's easy bundling policies. Geico GEICO makes it easy to bundle your homeowner's or renter's insurance along with your auto policy is a good thing too because you already have so much to do around your home go to Geico Dot Com. Get a quote. 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Yeah we were talking about you. You referred me to a video on youtube called off the top rope. Thank you I want you to talk about this. Just real quick. 'cause WE'RE GONNA play. It's about a four minute video you said. Hey Steve. Can we play this on the show and I watched it and it's such a special motivational video for people who are fighting cancer. This and so I you know it lends itself to being a video but as far as audio goes. I thought we'd play a minute clip of it and then let you explain to it or do you. WanNa throw do it. I'll throw to it. Okay go on you know. I'm a cancer survivor and bruce springsteen's band e street band. It's called light a day and I performed Niagara Falls and Toronto for Parkinson's and for cancer and I wrote this song called step off the top rope. I always have people you know. How do you how do you and sometimes you don't know but you just got a goal like babe. Ruth was the biggest one of the biggest homerun hitters? But he struck out the most to right and you got an life and so I went with these musicians and then I performed it and actually. I don't know if you'll get to say that you know is to sleep. You know. It's like unbelievable musicians right and it comes rods time to same and they all stop as Capello really withdrew. Stu Things are been up all night in this hotel room. I got my kids crying on the phone that came from I was teaching My youngest daughter Silent Knight on the piano but I was like twenty thousand miles away and I said Rick Rude Mr Perfect and big boss man. They're up in heaven. Cheering me on. Because in Miami really quick and Miami one time Kerry von Erich His right foot was amputated. Still Recycle crash. Yeah and he didn't mind healing room taking his leg off. We went to room one time and for some reason. Carry an eye on the eighth floor. Went out and stood on the ledge. The Window Slam shot. We're smokey joint or rather you know I don't know I can remember having to push back on the glass because the wind was so strong right and you know you leave your door open for room. Service do eighty and he'll come big boss man and Mr Perfect. I'll have a beer. And they saw us and they pulled us it. I'm the only one alive and so that you know. I've been up all night in his hotel room. I've got my kids crying on the phone. Recruit and perfect and big boss man threw up in heaven. Cheering me on and this song for you folks people say with cancer. I don't have a magic answer other than I don't know how to quit. And that's what the songs was for you and here. It is. Kids crying foam crude. Mr Purvis booby boss man. Evan cheering me on this. Life is full twists turns dreams. Thanks do you gotTa Man. But the message there. Yeah you've gotTA take a swing. Take a swing. Ain't doing sitting on the sideline shit. No kidding the game yeah you gotTa get in the game and I know like you just huge grass lines for you and I'm sure it's the same lake you'll get like three or four generations from the same family and They're watching TV. And they're bonding. It's not really that. I think. A doctor delivering a baby through so precious. And there's so giving never cut off the line you Gotta. Say Buddy. Yeah that's old school. Yeah Yeah and Hey Man and ravenous up you. You'd be cancer research will. It's ongoing thing you keep going. My Dad is a ten year cancer. Survivor goes medical. It's fiscal wolf. I was wrestling fans saved my life again many times but in this one it was a pulse. Cyber Sunday and flair was half the world champions and they needed to become a partner. The fans did and there was roads myself and sargent slaughter so. I don't know whether it's worked or not. But you know I'm the only one dressed up you know the other you guys. They've got wrestling boots. I'm figuring out you know with my brilliance and okay boom on the tag partners. Were off in Glasgow of all places Scotland. And my back. My hips wouldn't work and I couldn't figure it out and Ended up going to the hospital. And there was a piece of bone saw nerve and my their in their There's a lymph gland and the guys saw it and got a biopsy and had lymphoma cancer and sold and that was found during hip surgery. Not The hip fracture I search. Okay Ninety four okay so but but that was lucky. You had surgery might not. I wouldn't have known I wouldn't have progressed right time. Lucky Fluke All lucky fluke. And you know my kids come to seem years as a dad so a moment gets come. I. I'll make up the room. I was in room nine right. And how am I gonNA tell. The Dad's got cancer. Just little off. Oh man so some great grandma and she just happened to be in the same hospital and I was buying time so good down. Say Hi to grandma. And they went in about a half an hour later. Come back to. She died in front of them and they're crying grind and I gotta say she'll but you know what did for me it's like. Hey these they're dependent on you. Get up and three days after all that stuff. I was doing a movie called Sweet. Sixteen on MTV. And I just kept on. I get checked when I can so right now. You're on twitter. Roddy are under slash Friday under slash Piper and your website is Rowdy Roddy Piper dot com. And you had the ROD pod. Gone back in the day. Are you going to get the pod going back? I love you so much. She this is. This is For you folks listening. This is an example of a very accomplished gentleman Trying to help another foul out and make no mistake about it. Exactly what he's doing is like Mohammed. Ali Did it to me one time when I was a kid. And he's just doing it because he's the pro that he is and I did think Rod Pot in the love club and universal and after five weeks I was in the top twenty and I do but the guys in the love club. They got mad at each other and one guy took Clinton left and they're another successful venture so I was going to try to get her kicked up again the studio to go to and all that kind of stuff so I I want to seek around and get the Rod going again and tell stories and also do future stuff you know. I like helping people now. Helping people ask me. How do you want to be remembered? I want to be remembered as a good dad. That'd be cool. Yeah there's there's I would like to say that same answer but I can't I would like to but it's not gonNA happen. I still go still try to do it again. But anyway. Not to get all savvy but you know it is what it is but here. You says that it's like they don't understand it. That's all we got. You know that that's that but that is the thing family is all you got mad if you can't if you ain't and some people don't have families but those Ado and the ones that are splintered you know what you you had those come to Jesus meetings and they work or they don't work and see sometimes you can't force issue and so anyway obviously my my shortcomings living alive. That idea got sent some. We're not GONNA sit there and turn it into a PISS and Moan session. I had so much fun. Talking to you You write another podcast. You're right in podcast territory. I probably point you wrestle. I love eight love. What about you got a movie coming up or mentoring you're working on? Thanks Steve it so much. Okay WHOA I. It's they've been shooting for eight and lunch all over the world but documentary. Yeah but I don't like it you they show me where. I'm not so out of control a little bit they. I've got a real you. Have you know what I hate it I did? This is called It's called behind the villain behind the villain man. I saw clip of it. I was like I thought it was a movie. But it's a documentary documentary. But you know what Rod man if you. You've you've gone this far into it. I would be very intrigued to see it because probably went down a parallel path in some degrees. You obviously weren't the same business but I was compelled it just like I want to see it so a and we all have our dark days are demon. Days are are days when we're the greatest human beings on the planet and then sometimes we hit those lows as we both have and so I think many will watch this and gain strength from it and obviously your your Support for people with cancer and people people drawn strength from you live vicariously through the strength that Rowdy Roddy Piper you know displayed through his wrestling career. When you were healing baby face to the guy that gave you everything he had. Every single time an obstacle is thrown at him and the ring or in a storyline. They live vicariously through that. I've had so many stone cold. Steve Austin Pants. Tell me that so a man I think. The highs and lows I is your story I would love to see it. So when are you thinking about releasing? It's all shot Was going to release it around. Wrestlemainia which I'm thinking. I'm going to be at a release. A documentary resume thirty. I've been hearing rumblings. We wanted to go about this before we got on the air I've been seeing some noise about you in Hogan's wrestlemania thirty. Can we talk about this? Should we talk about it? What's going four one while Yeah It's you know this is wrestlemainia. Thirty I pinned Hogan once in these never been me. You wanted to sleep or that. It's first of all from Fan's perspective and from the WWe universe Invents it never had closure the business that would be done the interviews and stuff would be coming from the heart you could. You could bring tried out. Raise the Bar of the WWe entertainment machine in our sport If they let us go toll and and don't Don't script us. Then the fan will see really got started and why and then the blues. They're asking. Can I get in shape? I'm already in shape Hogan but there's there's a fear I guess of whether we can pull off the performance you can. I think you can I think so too. I wouldn't use you your style. Your brawler Hogue. Not going scientific crawl. It's a fight. You don't need scientific rustling. All you need is to go get. I think you do that. And I think to watch the magic from a promo standpoint but also from everything that the. Wwe Is doing now with launching Debbie Network and and their future business. You know so people have fallen off the WWe bandwagon. They have is issue lessons I left. Hey Man you're talking about your one original cats from wrestlemainia one all of a sudden thirty years later who you are again bringing history back to the present a lot of people who fell off would jump back onto a story line like this and saying God Dang. I didn't know what chance to see hot rod and the Hawks go again so I think it would be bad ass. I don't know if I'M GONNA be at thirty either all Asti. Yeah but you know what I'm saying we're talking about you and but I'd heard rumblings through that so I I I would love to see that match and obviously great sitting five feet across from me and art into. I'd give them everything I got. And then you know I probably wouldn't ever get the ring again. I would probably walk away there. I don't have you know been fired. Many times but. I've never been fired for other than speaking my mind doing the right thing. Not Because of substances are. I've never missed a GIG rather than you know. The plane didn't make it but when I'm getting man so so you need closure yeah. Yeah that's what I hear. It was really really difficult. When Wrestlemainia to when they started chanting my name Hogan went to McMahon and said I'll just ride on his skills and McMahon I heard the jungle. We'll we'll take care of them and That's why I went. And did they live right? I live so I can come back to the front door right. They were going to try to schnookered me right. And you know. I've been trained by the old timers. And you know it's a part I say just left out of the in the bowels of the guard and they didn't care and I need closure for my life these closer. Hey Man we're going to wrap it up on this you know. What Roddy you look these two pages here and now I didn't even scratch the surface and I didn't. I looked at these pages one time because you referred to a piece of business that I was going to cover so I would love to have you back anytime you're in La. Just give me out because we covered so much but we didn't cover nothing unvarying Lonard. Yeah great guys know coming down here to be on the show you. You're a great guy and you you're good for the business. I like the man that you are no no Baloney. I like the man that you are and I like. I like what you stand for Because you know what your real and I just for you guys trying to learn the business a say the same thing to all wrestle with your heart put your heart there. Be Yourself everybody else's taken and Steve Austin he gives you his heart and each taxes and I think wonderful and I'm honored to be here and would be on anytime with Nice. Thank you man. You heard it from me. He's coming back. I'm going to take a quick break and come back and rapid saying up of been talking to hot rod the one and only Rowdy Roddy Piper. And it's been a real good day. Love Youtube Rowdy. I love you buddy wraps up my conversation with Roddy Roddy Piper. I'll tell you what you know about a hell of a story. That is a story of paying dues. Not just in the wrestling ring but in life in general and it was so interesting talking to Roddy You know a face to face. Conversation is What you know. I wish I could do on every single show. But that's just not the way it happens but sitting five feet from Roddy and just Watching the expressions on his face as he kind of talked about some of those hard times and feeling the emotions across a table of some of the pain that he was reliving and some of the things that got him riled up and put that chip on his shoulder. It was I gotTA thank him. I. I can't think of enough for being so honest So candid And so open for sharing as much as he did with us. I certainly didn't think the conversation would get that deep. I have the utmost respect for rowdy. Roddy Piper what it was able to accomplish in ring and You know his ability to make you love him as a baby face to make you totally revile in hate him as a heel which is what he loved me and he loved being a heel. You know much like myself. I just think there's so much more creative freedom and liberty and hill but anyway roddy was one of the greatest of all time. And I'll tell you what that guy could piss you off at the drop of hat as soon as he wanted to. And there's just something about it and I think you know even just talking to him and him leave the room I mean. He still carries that chip on his shoulder. And I think that's why you know. Roddy such as Goals his side so high and works his ass off to this day but certainly a game changer. And a guy who probably didn't get enough credit back in the day when Hulkamania was running wild but when they had wrestlemainia one had it not been for. You know the The abrasive heat-seeking nature of Roddy Piper. I don't know that they could have pulled that off as successful as they did. And you know Hogan was certainly hot but he was going to get hotter as years would go by so it wasn't like Hulkamania was in full effect. This was wrestlemainia. One was the launching ground for you. Know Vince McMahon proved a lot of guys wrong and Obviously now we as we go into Wrestlemainia thirty you know. I don't think it Piper gets enough credit for being the performer and the character and personality is a better description that he was and so The Piper's pit some of the most Entertaining segments and history of pro wrestling. That's right pro wrestling so anyway. It was funny just to sit here and talk to him. Because it's the longest avid karate and like he stated at the beginning of the conversation. He really didn't know anything about me. He saw an interview. I conducted with another guy and said. Hey Austin actually paid some dues Austin kind of bend down a parallel road that I've been in so it kind of hey developed a little bit more respect for me because he realized I came through on the back end of the territory days and then I wasn't handed a career on a silver spoon. So anyway talking to the man face to face is truly an honor and a privilege again. Thanks to Roddy for coming in here and drop it so many great stories and I hope to have him back and we'll talk about more things in ribs and Shenanigans on the road and dissect a few matches All depend on rowdy. Roddy Piper's schedule before I leave. Pay My respects to my young May Young recently passed away. And I'll tell you what We used to always go to Monday night raw. And they'd bring Mayen with the fabulous Moolah and they they'd be doing some kind of Gig or something like that that was always fun and May- young always had a smile on the face as did Moolah. She's one of the nicest ladies I've ever met in my time in the business of professional wrestling as you just adds little loved. Everybody and was such a sweetheart. She paid some heavy duty. Dues herself way back in the day. Women's wrestling you talk about a wild frontier does Those ladies really had a hard road and she was one of the original people who break into business. She holds the distinction of being the only professional wrestler to Russell matches nine different numerical decades having her first match in nineteen thirty nine in our last match in two thousand ten and she made so many contributions to the business may young. It was Just a pleasure. Every time I got a chance to see you and give you that big hug rest in peace and with that being said. Don't forget rate and review Steve House and shown Apple podcasts. Day French check us out. If you reach me here on a podcast sent an email to question to Steve. I'll show DOT com. Hey I appreciate all sport. 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#019 Roddy Rich The Box

Oddly Observant

05:31 min | 6 months ago

#019 Roddy Rich The Box

"Welcome back to the oddly observant podcasts. Today we're going to be talking about a song that everybody knows and loves and his ready Ridge the box. And how did it pop pop up so quick? Where did it originate? And how did he get to be the number one song hint tick talk in social media? Been a huge booster for the song June so just as Tik. Tok was starting to explode in getting more more users on a month over month basis than ever before. Roddy rich box came out the box. By Roddy rich came out. And if anyone's been on to talk to you know that you could put tags the songs or the actual song over video and sometimes the memes themselves come from the actual song rather than the video so people will use a song and a song. We'll get popular on talk and then Internet culture takes over and people make great creative funny videos around it. Well the box by Roddy which just happened to be one of these. These songs and has a couple iconic sounds. And if you've listened to the song I'm sure that you know what I'm talking about these the beginning part for sure and then also just the chorus was pretty doubt but these took off on. Tick Tock so you had different age groups getting aware of this song at the same time which caused it to run off the charts on spotify and across all other music players but on it was became popular in talk. So that's the younger demographic and then because it was becoming popular and take people seem videos on instagram and twitter which skew a little older so everybody was becoming aware of it and typically. Somebody's first inclination to the song. Unless you just a huge hip hop Erat fan was through a mean or through one of these platforms so people all have a nice fond memory with this song typically already and still very young and roddy rich had his new album. Come out to which is pretty good to say the least this song. We just happen to be one of the best just in general though like using the box as an example. I think we're GONNA see this new trend where people really start blowing up through these platforms especially artists and knowing how to pack as your music or their Ip and a very creative or mimi fight way can allow for Vassil Vassilev Listen so there's song really quickly and it's going to be the artists that are have the least to have to be the most creative and honestly there's so many tools nowadays to where if you get just one piece of content as creative enough and people like it you can blow up on tick tock or on twitter so the future is bright for music creators artists and DJ's across social platforms already stuff. That's coming soon. This makes me question like you still have to have great production for the music or the sound but it seems like the chopping up in the distribution of a song or any piece of musical intellectual. Property is actually maybe more of the skill now that needs to be honed when it's so easy to make a song because all the technology is not easy to make good song but there's a lot more access to technology to make music quicker so you really have to know how to package that music in the way that the culture latches onto it and grows. 'cause that's what the Internet will do it. Kinda blows up the American culture and put it on a pedestal for the entertainment and enjoyment of the world. Pretty much other than just roddy rich. You see people recently like the baby who has become huge and he didn't I mean he has been huge on tick tock but it wasn't like his source of blowing up but people were just putting out consistent music like if you get that one bump into the culture through tick Tock Twitter. Whatever or podcast. Whatever you want to do as an artist you then have to follow it up with consistently good musically. Two babies had two and now that he's done in a couple of times he's a very sustainably good artists and has you know a very bright future ahead of him whereas now we see you're at she's put out a lot of great projects net now as is his time to capture all the value that he started to create for everyone in American across the world. So it's going to be very interesting to see chess games that go on with the artists and how they navigate the labyrinth coming up

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Ep. 240 - Georgia must arrest William Roddie Bryan

The Breakdown with Shaun King

12:33 min | 2 months ago

Ep. 240 - Georgia must arrest William Roddie Bryan

"William Roddy Bryan. You've seen the name you've probably seen some photos of who he is. But he is just as responsible for the murder of Ahmad Aubrey. As Gregory and Travis McMichael yet. He's still free. Here's what I know. The only justice we give is the justice. We fight for this system that sometimes is called. The justice system was not built. To give us justice was built for our oppression so today on a breakdown again the case of the murder of a motte. Aubrey specifically telling you the role of William Roddy Brian and give you new action steps that you can take the whole this man accountable. This is Shaun King and you're listening to the the the break down a breakdown of a breakdown ABC few things today that I want to help us break down and understand here. One is a rule called the felony murder rule. And if you've been listening to this podcast I've actually done several episodes of the breakdown about the felony murder rule because it is regularly applied to African Americans who were present when a felony murder took place. They didn't commit the murder. Bay sometimes had virtually nothing to do with the murder. They may have never held the murder weapon. They may have never even put their hands on the victim but because they were an accomplice they then are charged with felony murder. That's what we have here in the case of Greg Mcmichael who did not fire the shot at a Pre. But who seemed to oversee the chase? Who was armed when Ahmad? Aubrey was shot and killed but did not shoot and kill him himself. The Gregory McMichael was arrested and charged with felony murder. Well what we know is that while Travis. Mcmichael fired the fatal shots and Gregory McMichael. His father was there with him really overseeing the operation there was a third person William. Roddy Brian who was not only involved in the thirty second or so clip that we see we now know that it was him who found that clip. We HAVE COME TO UNDERSTAND. Civil Rights Attorney. Lee Mary in. Eilly represents the family of a motte. Aubrey Leeann. I have now studied this case day and night for nearly a month and we have fully come to understand without that what we see in that video is the final thirty seconds of a chase that lasted for over four minutes and we have not only studied the scene. Lee is actually there in Brunswick on the ground right now studying. It Leeann is talked extensively over the past twenty four hours but we have studied all the police reports all the investigative documents that we have access to. We've talked I witnesses and studied every bit of evidence that's available and including nine one one call security cameras timestamps etc. And what we now understand. Is that William Roddy. Brian and Greg Travis McMichael did not chase them off for thirty seconds. They did not just park their car at the end of the street and then shoot and kill him. They chased him for over four minutes into the two parties than the McMichael's in one truck. And William Roddy Brian in another boxed a Maden at which he could not go in any potential direction without running into someone's yard or perhaps being shot in the back which we believe was probably his greatest fear that Ahmad believed at the point in which he was boxed in that if he ran just straight past them that they would either run him over or shoot him in the back and at the moment which they boxed a in. He understood that he could only either turn around and confront. William Righty Brian or turn in the other direction and have to try to somehow get past the McMichael's but William Roddy. Brian is still free now. We were told on the day that they arrested the McMichael's we were told by several authorities that they planned on arresting arresting William. Righty Brian that day. And we were waiting. And we've been waiting now for over a week and during this. Week William Righty. Brian is talking to anybody and everybody can. He has changed entire. Look to tried to look as harmless as possible and his attorneys have him basically doing a PR campaign to make it out like he was a hero. I need you to understand. The man was no hero. According to Gregory McMichael in the very police report taken on the day of the Murder William. Ready Brian helped them chase Ahmad. Aubrey down in help boxed Ahmad a box of modern if you listen to any interview that William Righty. Brian is doing all over the media. He refuses to talk about those several minutes because he knows they are incriminating. Also I need you to understand. The he held onto this video for over three months and it was not his decision to let the video go instead. It was the attorneys of the McMichael's who released the video. We I'm ready Bryan. Had this video for months on end. He expressed no sympathy to the family of a motte. Aubrey in February in March in April. He did them no favours. He's no hero. This man was literally accomplice. A Co Conspirator. It is my firm belief that Ahmad. Aubrey could very well be alive today. At William Roddy. Brian Not participated in. This crime had not been balked boxed in he could have very well escape that scene as he tried to do for four minutes now that we know that they chased him for four minutes all around the neighborhood. It helps us understand it. They weren't afraid of their. They weren't afraid for their lives. They were hunting this man. That's exactly what was happening and I wanNA play an audio clip of something real just released by the New York Times which confirms what we know. Which is that. Ahmad was being chased for over four minutes. I'm going to post this video on my instagram for you to check out. I want you to really see it and after I play this I'll bring it down a little bit more and then we'll get to today's action steps. It's one eight. Pm Aubrey's walking around inside the house. Four minutes after he entered he walks out and runs off in the top corner of the security footage. We can see down the street to to thirty two. Tila the home of Travis Michael at one ten PM TRAVIS AND HIS FATHER. Gregory grab their guns jump in a white truck and leave the house to pursue Mr Aubrey. We don't have footage showing the next three minutes. But testimony Gregory McMichael gave police at the scene and interviews by another witness Roddy. Brian indicates what happened. Gregory and Travis McMichael fall over onto Burford road their neighbor roddy brine sees the pursuit gets in his car and follows. The McMichael tried to cut Aubrey off. Arboretum back and passes them. Brian TRIES TO BLOCK ARMORY. But Aubrey runs past him toward homes road. Gregory McMichael climbs from the cab to the bed of the truck armed with a handgun. We don't know exactly what happens next but Brian and the McMichael's end up following armory on homes wrote and we next. Crv At one fourteen PM running back down homes wrote away from Roddy. Brian and towards the McMichael's Roddy Brian is filming. And a warning. These scenes are distressing. What you just heard was just a sample a small clip of a longer video put together by the New York. Times to show the beginning middle and end of what actually happened on the day Ahmad. Aubrey was murdered. I'm glad you could hear it. What I really want you to do is see it. I want you to understand exactly. What William Righty? Brian did where he was an understand that he participated in this for four minutes and that they were chasing Ahmad all through the neighborhood into Ahmad was boxed in and had nowhere to go. It's outrageous that this man has not already been arrested. There is there is no credible reason why he still free and able to basically mount a full-fledged PR campaign. Other than the fact. That as I just said this system was not designed. For our justice it was designed for our oppression in any time it gives us even a hint a sliver shadow of justice because we squeezed it and made it do it and so that leads us to new action steps for this case. That will be pushing for all week that we're going to continue to push for until William Mighty. Brian charged and arrested with the murder of a motte. Aubrey right now. I need you to put this number in your phone and you can save it as just as four Ahmad Aubrey or run with Maude. This in essence is going to be are permanent hotline. We're going to have and we regularly update going to tell you about the updates but I make sure you lock this numbering your phone. Seven seven zero eight zero zero zero six eight nine seven seven zero eight zero zero zero six eight nine one more time. Seven seven zero eight zero zero zero six eight nine and when you call that number today. I have a brand new voice. Message there waiting for you breaking down the case. We are changing all of our targets right now for a Motte Aubrey to focus on the arrest of William Roddy Brian. I tell you what you need to say. We talked some about who we're calling. We're calling the district attorney. We're calling the Georgia Bureau of Investigations. Were calling local state and federal officials to demand that they arrest and charge. William Roddy Brian with the murder of a motte. Aubrey need you to understand that what he committed there. As a co-conspirator as an accomplice was a crime that Ahmad would very likely still be alive. If a second car did not participate in boxing him in entrapping him in there in the neighborhood. Call the number today. Saving your phone. Share it film yourself. Making the calls posted on your Social Media Tag Me Texture. Friends and neighbors need to get back on the phone and let them know that they need to arrest William Roddy. Brian Download the break. The break spring break break break break bring bring.

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Mt. Rushmore of Movie Brawls

Mt. Rushmore Podcast

32:02 min | 6 months ago

Mt. Rushmore of Movie Brawls

"Greetings and welcome to the Mount Rushmore. PODCAST my name is Jeff and I'm joined as always been good friends. Richard and Michael Howdy Richard and Michael like debate. Eight and bill rate the Mount Rushmore ubiquitous topics including the mount. Rushmore of movie brawls recovered. You chose it split. I did because there is one movie. I was thinking about that how that is on my list. That had a tremendous Fistfight seen howards end merchant ivory production Guinness Thompson up to ten minutes of strict violence. No so there's one movie that was on my list Wisconsin thinking like Oh. This is definitely on the Mount Rushmore movie brawls right on cool okay all right. Is this to you when you define BRA is this. This isn't just like a one on one fight. That could be okay. I think I think two people can have a Bra. I but I but I I I would say that a brawl generally mostly involves can him to hand combat. Gunfights does not sure okay. Okay I would disagree that I would say. A brawl involves multiple people to because then you're just fighting then. You're just in a dual almost. Oh okay but I don't know I it's interesting you it you're not. The judge also has a little bit of a A Gusto and maybe a little bit of lack of forethought or planning you too. Yeah Yeah it's not a it's not something that's usually highly choreographed. Yeah Like when two boxers have a real donnybrook it's abro okay. Jump In. Let's see what happens. Michael you're up the first one that I thought of maybe just by the word itself was the burly brawl in the Matrix reloaded. That's the first one came to my mind too because new neo is fighting. Initially Agent Smith who confronts him in a courtyard and all of a sudden out of nowhere. Seven more agent Smith show up to fight him and neo being the one holds Holds his own and knock them all down and I believe initially agent Smith tries to kind of infiltrate him and infect affect him with whatever virus he has to duplicate him in turn neo into another Smith himself and then he knocks those guys down and then out of the woodworks hundred and eighty seven something other for total one hundred. Ninety five of these agents myths are attacking neo and he has to fend them off with all sorts of Kung Fu Shenanigan Johnson including like big poll that he kicks them in the face with a spins around and I believe that it was just dubbed the burly brawl auber liberal by the kind of visual effects team. That's funny that I read the same thing and I think at the same time evaluating the plagued ah sequels have in which they use multiplication yes to improve upon the original. Two things have to happen in the secret one things get multiplied the danger also they take the character out of the initial place that they were in New York City. Yeah and then they make them go worldwide wide someplace they. They're in a foreign country like Babe Babe in the city made to baby in the city. Muppets the great muppet caper around. You asked asked. And they're in hijinks within. Yeah you know England or Spiderman Two mazing spider into whatever the newest one Far from home the far from home. Thank you. He's often like Italy. The sheep a water out of the tank. Yeah that's what it would be shaped water to ocean and you're You know that yeah at a water park it's just just punching dolphin and this is one of those scenes that I remember. We're seeing for the first time and it's just like it's wild to watch you watch it back on your DVD or Blu Ray and the graphics don't quite up as well you kind of wish and this is something that emily and I've talked about a little bit watching a lot of like older pixar movies thinking like why can't they just re skin. We render it can't they. Just I mean I don't know anything about graphics and they don't know anything about the costs of movie production or how you would go about just like oh can't you just like yeah but a thing on it and making a better kitchen thinking to reduce sonic like. Yeah this this I think would would stand up nicely to having like a better texture. Map might everything because it looks fun and it looks like Red Dead Redemption or something does have the video game. We'll the matrix was one of those that not quite suffers from it but feels very much like a video game at times especially in the two sequels aren't aren't ready all right so my first one is they live okay and this Roddy Roddy Roddy Roddy Piper and Keith David This was the one that originally got me thinking about movie despite despite the Alley yes okay. And there's nothing glamorous about despite senior scenes have this like very gorlic almost scout choreography. This looks like what would happen. If two dudes just started wailing on each other and not like in that sort of I'm GonNa hit you take a punch uh-huh GonNa sit there and wait for you to punch me back. So I mean there is there's headbutting every once in Awhile uh-huh Andre the giant cane and. He's knocking him no he. He actually does hit a keith. David with a Suplex at one nice because they have to throw in a little bit of link for Mr Piper that used to happen with the Rock in his early roles roles like they'd always throw in like rock bottom or something like you'd be a giant Scorpion and then he do like the Scorpion Elbow on something like forty the different things. You'd be like I I got he's all out of bubblegum. He was This is the whole scene. Where of course? He's trying to get Keith David to put on on these glasses glasses so he can see that. There's aliens among us. which as Keith David is getting like? His face bashed in almost knocked unconscious. This is like wouldn't you just put the glass Alyssa's on after after like five minutes of just feeling wait. which bucket fine? Just give me the stupid glass. My Dad had told me. Never let another man make you put on glasses. Yeah that sounds like some sort of wrestling wrestling Romo thing gone horribly wrong But I love this I love. I love this movie It's always found it weird that Roddy Piper didn't actually make more good movies. We need help frog town. The bunch of other like random weird stuff but he was as an action actor goes was he was perfectly good and could have done other stuff. I think So this is this is one of those I think foundational on Dacian all sort of movie brawls. Yeah because it's it shows a different way just kind of stage Abro and not just the doesn't have to be as overly cory graff. Thing And maybe it comes down to with wrestlers. Maybe they just don't make the best life choices. Just in general third life is spent traveling around fighting people faithfully and then when it comes to choosing movie movie roles maybe they just like Hogan didn't do a ton of great movies or like any great but he's a terrible actor. Well there's that too like like I don't know me rocky's pretty good bracket to rectory thunderlips. thunderlips has absolutely yeah. I thought you meant rocky like your friends with the Rock no rocking I think that sometimes they just maybe they don't use the right choices. Yeah all right. Burn off Winfield what's your second well when it comes to movie brawls Beatrix Kiddo in kill bill volume versus the crazy eighty eight oh yeah. House of blue leaves overran issues kind of house house or a restaurant. I guess that she visits or entertains at. I don't know if it's her place. But she definitely has the run of the place and The bride comes to take her revenge upon already. She and she is encountered with her gang of kind of hipster schoolgirl mask daring Yakuza. Just get slaughtered by. Yeah she just she just takes them mm apart left and right and it's wonderful all over the place. I love the tidbit about how they shifted to black and white to kind of help tamp down like an NC NC seventy oh is that right yeah kind of tamped down the Gore. I guess they just had when you sleep spoiler alert when you slice slice the top of somebody's head. Yeah when arms are falling. It's a splattering and helps when it's in black and white kind of kind of plays back into the Tarantino pulp sort of old school. Yeah sure of it as well that that is touching on aspects that I coordinate her connect with a brawl in that is that there is material damage to the venue you too. Yeah so we almost touch base on this earlier but yes things have to get busted up Things have to break things. After whether it's a trash can being smashed in an alley early or whether it's sure bottle beer bottle things just getting absolutely destroyed. You feel like you feel like King Kong and Godzilla had been inside a small all space kind of knocking each other. Yeah yeah furniture getting crushed usually some comedic sidekicks kind of sitting out front like after. They've beaten each other up a little bit. They're just kind of commenting on so when I saw kill bill volume one in the theaters. Everyone at the movies that the movie was at the Grove and everyone was watching it with a very serious. Like who this Tarantino. This is very interesting. Let's see what references he's making and I just laughed from start to finish. I just thought it was the funniest damn thing I'd ever seen. And then people started getting like mad at me because I was laughing at the movie eighty I thought it was supposed maybe in later on like I realize maybe that wasn't supposed to be a comedy. Needless to say I did not watch me to You've never seen it no. I didn't really it's ridiculous why. How do you leave that movie? Knowing that there is a sequel coming out when she has three more names on her on her. Kill Bill list whatever and she still has to kill Bill. This is a tr- this is awful. You gotta see it's wonderful. I didn't put in although I didn't like the first one in the way that I guess I was supposed to like it. I have very little I have very little confidence than I'm going to like the second one. Okay in the way that I'm apparently supposed to. Yeah I don't know how somebody has somebody getting the top of their head cut off and then continuing to talk for for a couple. Oh seconds before she dies is not funny like like in a grotesque. If that happened in Peter Jackson movie you'd be laughing I am astounded. Does the courtesy of the horror and comedy have the same mechanism of kind of creating tension and releasing tension the nets if it was horrific. You'd be this point where you're terrified to scream or laugh right for you. So humorous Chris turn is a funny guy right yeah his movies are not so. I don't think that his movies are supposed to be consumed with the sort of like it's an academic thing. Yeah even though. He is obviously a film scholar and drops a lot of share film references. Yeah I don't look at a yes anderson film and go. That's a reference to Truffaut's tonight. That's funny yeah and in Fascinating Lords Bastards Produce Nazi scalps. It was just an wasn't. Yeah exactly which I love inglorious bastards. Yeah so I don't know I don't know what happened with me and kill Bill MHM was in a Weird Day. Donald all right man Freddy okay. My second one is Indiana the Jones and the raiders of the lost Ark. Oh airplane fight scene. Oh Wow okay so this is one that has several different. People can't believe you called Indiana. Jones and the raiders the lost Ark as if like you accepted there like fresh row renaming of it and you're just didn't color eaters I am. I don't even know who you are into. Oh you are I'm trying. I'm twenty twenty my my We know what we need to know you. More Michael The owls of Hooghly Rights. I just put it on there. Which one? Yeah it's so much fun. Oh Oh yes when. He's fighting the the big German. Yeah Yeah Yeah I mean. It's pretty much the ideal summation action of Indiana Jones as a fighter. It's like he's in this brawl against this guy who looks like an old time fighter and a circus strongman circus and get the dudes like twice as size and the first thing he does in the fight right is kind of looked down at his shoes and point so the guy looks down so he can get a cheap shot on him yeah and later on throw sand in his eyes And then the last thing he does make sure that he gets Kinda just hangs out so he gets chopped. Bits by the The voters and to me. That sums up that character of Indiana Jones. Really well like he is somebody who is not afraid to mix it up but he also knows his limitations as a as a fighter and he's not afraid to fight dirty if that's what it yeah makes survive. Yeah and it's a a again. I think it's also even though a guy it gets splattered to smithereens it's cuisinart and It's all a funny scene. Yeah which I it's it's fascinating to me. That's a that's the great thing about finding Nazis ABC's as you can just have chopped up bits and it's just like should do you know that seeing a gigantic Nazi fights that guy twice twice in the movie. Yeah he does. He's like the Cossack looking dude at the beginning I love that same stunt person. Yeah they ran out of stunt people. Yeah Tony Oni Nature in Nepal in. Yeah I seen would in the bar and the Marion Marion. Yeah Yeah Raymond which is a big dude with a beard. It's the same guy as the Nazia. If you love stunts of Indian John I realize it's just about the bribe anything. It's Andy Reynolds. The guy's name this Harrison Ford stuntman for all the films as a book about being his stomach for all the film's makers to come in and doing fun things and then in episode well in Indiana Jones and the Temple of doom that these get it right. That's acceptable up. He Harrison Ford was afflicted with back problems for a long time and so to keep shooting his stunt person who looked had a strong resemblance to them would do entire sequences were with his face away from the camera. And all that kind of stuff so they can still keep shootings vacillated. All righty. Does it seem like we have our halftime. Okay so we want to implore you you to go back into our archives download rate and review past episodes. You can do that by going to apple's podcast greater you can go to spotify you can go to iheartradio. I think even go on Youtube and look it past things. Does that still happen. Okay awesome so she she if you did that and Gordon rate them. Am Stars are great. We'd love as many stars you throw at him. And then that's the past but in the future you could impact the choices that we make on topic by going to join the dialogue on facebook twitter and instagram. Give a suggestion as to topic. You'd love to your discuss past suggests doors have ended ended up being on the podcast and that was a lot of fun. So guys Next episode what is it going to be. It's going to be the Mount Rushmore more of thoughts about driving while driving. Wow and that's deep. It's deep well. You know I figure. Shall it could be a hamburger shirt. Sure you know but the hammered has nothing to do with Dr Okay but often we are. We spent a lot in la. Yeah we spent a lot of time in our cars and and Often simple country no or how about you simple country folk who drive a long distance in the car or tractor or Tra tra. We're off topic often when you're doing something that is a repetitive task. Or something that you've done longtime driving to and from work you're so familiar with a route that sometimes your mind wanders even though should be paying attention even though you are paying attention you know driving you to like Zen state of focusing on everything and nothing at the same time they about driving in the things about driving. That's next week yes Let it be known that that that was humorous in the podcast PODCAST staff and talent respect country folk in every country folk are the heart of America threat or rationally true. Yeah okay Getting back to it and going back to Winfield okay. I'm going to do something that is to. This is what you do and say you want to add a lot of gravitas to choice from the Naito. The prophecy this is choice from the nineteen. Eighty Robert Altman film. Oh Popeye Oh okay. This is Popeye versus spikes gang at a rough houses diner. Okay and there is a scene where Popeye is new to town. And he's rooming with the oils and he's over rough houses diner and he is kind of pouring his heart out to wimpy. And he's telling me about. Oh you know miss me pop in only pats gum. He left me when I was in fink and stuff and on the scene and there's a table nearby and it's filled with spike All of his like five or six other gang members. Those gang members are slug. Butch more Gozo and Bolo however played played by Dennis Franz. Wow very you don't see his bare ass but wow but he they just the table just starts laughing laughing and they're just being total jerk making fun of Popeye's story in the way he speaks and Popeye still kind of trying to ignore them. He's trying to get through kind of telling wimpy has story and then they start pushing them start making fun of him to his face and humiliating him and Popeye Kinda. He's keeping within himself in front of him and they're making fun of his dad and he's like hey I I don't need to get no fight. And then they start harassing all the people the tenders and that's when enough is enough and what's great about. The scene is that there's a slow build where like the the people at the restaurant start locking up the Jisr they start knowing that a a a brawl fights about to happen in. Everyone's like really ten. So there's there's this interesting like tenseness Popeye film but ten is building up to a fifty second fight where Popeye says like enough is enough and he says this is a smorgasbord of violence and he just lays into them and some of them knock each other other out. They swing chairs caught on the thing and people start jumping out of windows and treat some guy's face like a like a punching bag a punching day. Clap clap very cartoony to skip lunch. Popeye doesn't get a punch landed on him. Yeah he's clean as a whistle coming out of it and he's tough guys come into we're thinking they can just mow them down but it's just a lovely awful brawl and that is a very interesting film film and as a young person. I think saw twice in theaters as young person loved it. And then as an adult you because Altman Papa you know where where do all these things come together and I remember that I think I've seen that within the last few months. And it's wonderful. Yeah it's unlike canopy canopy if you can visit the canopy APP or if you it's all over the place or maybe even Amazon prime but is well shot. The songs are interesting and like seemingly dietetic. Is that the right word I I got to think of. It's like when a sound comes out is like within the scene organic with gambling and like it's kind of caused musical too so it it feels like everyone is singing within the town not just like it breaks out into a musical. That's we haven. It's very interesting. That's the Harry Nelson Music. What I've read about the production of that was that was Robert Evans? Who was pissed at getting outbid for Anne so he thought screw them? I'm going to get a different comic and I'm GonNa make my own musical. How my Gosh Rush? So he's loved the one upsmanship trying to keep up with any which was already hit Broadway musical being turned into a film so he here he is trying to catch up and I forget where they were still put the sets. You can still visit you. So yeah. And he got arrested arrested for cocaine possession like there. was there something like that really. Yeah Okay Manfreddy Robin Williams did cocaine Robert. Evan Robert Robert Uh Robin Williams most likely allegedly allegedly there. We're good now. I know it's spinach cocaine. Blues Kalibbu Glue. It's cocaine. Shame Manfredi all right my second. My third one is anchorman. Oh okay the Brawl eighteen different news teams. Literally the only note I have on here is bricky guy with the Trident. Yeah 'cause it. It is in a movie filled with ridiculous things happening. Yeah it it manages to outpace everything else in well. I'll tell you something. Yeah my fourth choice choice. The ball from anchorman two. Oh No So you'll get to go again after this but I chose it for like the exact exact same reasons just that it was the same thing that was just amped up when I was thinking of brawls thought what is a more amped up version of the same thing which is just like any sequel. Maybe I I maybe I'm maybe I'm just biased. Because I don't think anchorman two was there wasn't a movie for sure so I maybe Dan biased against it. Although I do remember thinking that they manage to do a good job of making the brawl scene from that ridiculous ridiculous enough have to be worth. We'll talk about the first one. Then I'll talk about the second Luke Wilson getting his arm chopped off is great. That's the best gag. Maybe in the movie him with his arm chopped off a brick tamblyn running around holding a grenade pointing rights. Where did you get that tried end? Yeah just fabulous Ellis Line. You might want to go into hiding for a while it does. It does nicely. It was so expected in the guest star round. Especially you know you have been still coming into Spanish news. Yeah I've read is Tim. Robbins has had. Yeah what I liked about the one in anchorman. Two it had all the same sort of beats of like the introduction. The slow introduction of the fight doesn't last that long it's the it's the lead up. Yeah and you have no introduction of the Lesser Ones Connie arrest is like the MTV ESPN expanded the world the way that cable expanded. Yeah Oh Tina fey and amy poehler coming entertainment news. That's too bad ass. Girls writing on a Dune buggy time anyone's on a Dune buggy. But of course like the Kuda is like the history channel's Liam Neeson as the main host of the history channel and then it's like the ghost of Stonewall Jackson made Atar you start to raise like why is a military really isn't history. It's more like they've got a minute tar and then of course Sir Harrison Ford is there right and he turns into a Werewolf. And you're what you're doing. Whatever they kind of cable is it's all over the place but just so ridiculous both both scenes in the middle of this movie right? What are the really liked about? The Anchorman Won. A scene. was when turn very much into like something out of planet of the apes when they're like they're people on horseback. Just start writing someone down with a net as if they're like Charlton Heston his crew right. And the music even turns Gillette sort of like a Bongo drum right. It's the very obvious not too. Yeah that's great. Yeah that's a fun seeing their equivalents. That the Anchorman Universe in the connectedness that it has to the Comedians who were in the other things like Starsky and Hutch would be Owen. Lukewarm Owen Wilson End. Oh sure that for me. Is the closest thing to the marvel cinematic universe. There's all these different comedy people you know they. You have a feeling offstage that they all live in the same kind of interchangeable any anyhow but that that moment made it feel so interchangeable. I realized for my choices. Well aw all of mine leading up to this one person versus a group of people And I really. Oh we're all should also include every everyone. Yeah Yeah same time interesting. That's that was my well. I notice none of us. I guess I'll my last one second because you're done right. Yeah okay someone's anchorman. Neither of US had a western either of US had anyone. Yeah getting you know. Toss through a window. Yeah yeah or like pulled the length of the bar or something interesting interesting nope so my last one is the final fight scene from drunken master astor to really close to really not the final fight scenes. It was like the one. There's another one before that where he first gets or like. He's encouraged to really get drunk. Yeah middle of the town square but that is emily and I watched that in the last year and that is such a fun. Movie is a fun movie and I I like it because it's perfect because the whole setup of the movie which is the Jackie Chan is a master of a style of fighting called drunk inviting where he has to be very drunk to do it It lets them fight in a style that in some some ways sometimes more ferocious than we're used to from him and other times. It's just very exaggerated and funny. Yeah so the highlights from this include him trying to bite the guys eyeball At one point he picks him up the other guy up by the legs. Like you're doing the wheelbarrow thing being in a family at a family reunion or something and then just kicks punches. The guy in the gut and then he also I think the last thing he does is he picks him up on his shoulders and basically does a brock listener. F five come to him onto the ground which is last thing did knocks him out. Well I I said he's so good in those in this cory graff. Choreographed environment break stuff using the environment to fight people sort of things right and and and and generally versus something like they live which is choreographed to not look choreographed. These are choreographed and they look very choreographed. But in a way where it's also frenetic the way he fights there's just fists and feet literally flying like it like it's Tau 's And there's a yeah cloud cloud and you see arms and legs sort of popping out. That's kind of what it feels like a great moments in that movie or is like he's in the middle of the fight and he has to keep taking swigs of alcohol from different people in the group surrounding and he has to get so drunk and then continue to be drunk even better and looser fighter and the only after the final after the final fight scene. He literally burps up a bubble like in the cartoons. It's great I love it. I love it. So that's it right guys. I'm glad no fist cuffs happened. I would like to first off Invite our audience to tune in next week. When we have the mount rushmore of thoughts? You have about driving while driving But then I wanNA rate I ed. I'm going to go with Popeye. 'cause he was the biggest Brawler when I was a little kid you know Popeye. The animated cartoon was now is the most widely syndicated cartoon during the fifties sixties and Seventies. I think more so than woody woodpecker more so than like the Walter Lantz and Santa Barbara things like there was shown more. Maybe it means Keefer for stations or something. I don't know I've been in the public point. Yeah then I thought it was super cool choice so drunken Master d Then they live a love the aspect of it that it didn't seem as choreographed felt felt almost a little bit more. Probably you felt feels actually be in a real versus a cinema brawl and Let's see why don't we go because girls roles can throw down. Beatrix Kiddo from kill Bill. We did a guys. This has been the Mount Rushmore of brawls. we'll see Braulio later. I'm always Jeff. I'm Richard I'm Michael.

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30 Roc Talks Producing "The Box" For Roddy Ricch, Giving Cardi B her 2nd Hit & More

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30 Roc Talks Producing "The Box" For Roddy Ricch, Giving Cardi B her 2nd Hit & More

"No jeopar- coolest podcasts. In the world and say I'm in here with thirty rock. Are You doing man? I'm good man how you doing great. You're riding a fucking crazy wave right now like it's pretty much a dream situation that you're in right now. The Dude who produced like the biggest song in the country and people are talking about. The people aren't just. I'm just blessed talking about the song they're like really talking about crazy. The production you know. I'm just trying to be some differ shit. That's always been me. You know what I'm saying even grinding for a long time to like what the Fuck Tom. God Damn I'm here now. A lot of people get fucking fed up like really early on but I mean it's it's cool to see the journey of you doing interviews like very early on like trying to do whatever you could to basically explain your situation or whatever but I feel like for our producer. You're pretty much the prime position right now. I've been working quite some time. You know what I'm saying You can't give up. You know what I'm saying. Because desire fee my family know what I'm saying this is able to put my other producers mother negative positions to win and feed family. So you know just all rise me. I can't give up So you're from the Bronx up until what as you live there? Before he moved there probably like I moved to Atlanta. Probably around two thousand eleven. I'M GONNA say right before okay. So we're Asia. You make it too in the Bronx Elena schools. I've been like eleven twelve but do you feel New Yorker Oh no not really not really a lavish That's when you start like going out and being out there by yourself so you really get that that. Like I've been hustling since then. I'm saying whether that mean playing the drums at church every Sunday. You know to have my Mama fifty dollars whatever the case may be like. That's what I'm that's what I did. That was your version of hustling back. Yeah I don't know nothing about that. Amy Fisher what were your parents like. And what was the environment house was a musical environment? Yeah mom where? My family's from Antigua and Barbuda so you know. I got like a Caribbean background. Okay My Dad used to be a DJ. Mom has not one lick of rhythm of Sony. They probably got one her. But you know I definitely got that from my Dad's side and I just took it on and kept going really. You know what I'm saying. Obviously music wasn't something I wanted to do really so it's just crazy how I fell into. This wasn't something he wanted to do. You fall into it. I was in the marching band and shit like that but like I didn't think that like I thought like okay. I was going to be like regular. Do go go to high school go to college for playing drums and shit like that and come out of college trying to figure out my life and it's so crazy they're like actually lost my whole college situation being able to try out not type of Shit and you lost situation. Why because my bad teacher called me a bitch shut out except charleton Mr Mr Shepherd. He called you a bitch. That's my dog. For what would you do? I just had a headache day. Not just I mean you know. I'm just the type of guy like if someone want to do it. That's the kind of thing that I picture like. Football coach science. Not a band aid match definitely went off on my ass but I told him you know. Hey fuck this shit. I don't need it and I walked out and I just had to find something to do with my life so you walked out you smash on out and everything I just like fuck it. I'm like okay okay. Yeah I left in. She had to figure something out and I just started making beats had you already they. Do you remember a specific time when you fell in love with up to the point where you wanted to make beats there? Was there any particular production that you heard? That made you fascinate. Shout out today. Germs shots. Really you know what I'm saying like that's what made me like really wanted to start making beats. I mean I used to listen to music like nothing really like caught my attention like that. That first wave Mike Wills Shit and like restaurant and all that. That was sort of like you. Were you were still pretty young. Pretty Young Like way before sherm really you know what I'm saying like when when the future way back calling on the turn on the lights and Shit and shit like that like that's what made me down. You know I can do this. Shit right now is make a beat to at the time so it was like you know. Just try it so you start fucking making beats you feel like you really gravitated towards right away like you start like plant a video game all day. You know what I'm saying. Nothing better than that like we do. We know we love to play video games all day like I get paid to play video game all day right. You know what I'm saying. I mean but still job but the job is like basically creating the best pattern screen which is like a lot of people. It's hard to imagine that that eventually is where the mentality the Metalli of it is. Like how can I be different every time you make a beat? How different can I be without the sucking without without and without like being like God damn I ain't got to choose today right now? What I'm saying. So yeah that's what it is. How did you once you started really making some hot shit. And did I see something when you said that you didn't? You don't ever watched tutorials or you didn't you didn't learn on Youtube or whatever how'd you learn just on your Shelter in my home. Boy You know. He taught me how to make beats on Really we just figured it out like I mean like I seen a lot of people saying no. That was pride and stuff like that but it was nothing like that. Like I knew you wasn't even popping like that when I started making beats right. How can I watch it to Tori? Do you feel they should is too easy? Now it's all laid out for you and you WANNA learn. Everything is out. There just makes it more competitive. Not really no because the goal is to be different right not to sound like everybody else but if everybody understands the basics because the basics are so well laid out on Youtube Bennett just really starts to become more of a competition of who is actually really creative and who can do something totally outside the box. Yeah I could see that actually happening Would be very successful. I don't know you know for me because it's like I like to touch different Shit. Bright I don't WanNA learn from Youtube. Oh this is how you ate away and this is how you maybe. Sometimes I just wanted to fuck away just the bank or maybe melody beat does melody to have a whole bunch of delays on Echo. Like when I pull up echo boy. I'll put their feedback. All the way on that motherfucker right like I want to sound different. You know what I'm saying. Do you ever feel like you. Make sure to outside the box for the artists and that they just want some shit. That sounds like some other like. Do you have the problem already where everybody you go to. Maybe for their like something like the box. No not because everybody come when they when they spent more like when I come in the studio. They know they're never going to get something. That sounds the same right. If you listen to like my whole track record none of my beats sound the same like you wouldn't even think I made every single one of those or like everything was different So I try to keep that going for me and like the producers and stuff like that like the whole team. We just try to be different where everything doing right. I don't try to ever like be repetitive. And I can't do because they my ears get tired. I get bored. And they don't want to make beats they're not take long vacations. Yeah so it's easy. For you to get frustrated creatively and then that forces you to sort of take a step back. I don't ever get easily. Frustrated will make beats. I just like to let my mom breath because I don't believe in like beat block and shit like that anything could be beat right. You know what I'm saying. I just let my mind just relax like negative sitting there smoke hookah about three hours. What you're on your own hookah. Hookah out I smoked weed occasionally alcohol but I come in the studio from like twelve and afternoons two hours two hours of that after that. I'm smoking hookah for two hours. Chilin Talking Shit and then I'm okay cool. Let's get some work in what I'm saying and then I just relax you know what I'm saying. I was lost. My hookah slid all day. I could do anything. How many hours like in your ideal day of working on music? How many hours are you in the Studio Shit? Long fucking time being in there with artists as well like yeah I like I like either or Because we have like cook up days where it's just like we just end. They're just clicking. We'll come in like eight o'clock in in at night and don't leave until eight. Am Right. And sometimes I don't go to sleep to twelve pm to wake up at what six and do it all over again. Like sometimes I don't even see daylight bright. She's just oh crazy. And you're kind of at the mercy of artists and a lot of ways as a producer. Right where you gotTA fit into. Whatever the schedule they're trying to do. Is You got to be there? Have you ever been in a situation that fell like that or do you perfect? Have you learned what your preferences in terms of your creative process through trying to fit in with other people's creative process does not enjoying it? I don't fit in and I saw everybody I work with. I've got a relationship so it's not like I'm feeding in or like a Bro. Come TO STUDIO. Eight o'clock like like everything is scheduled sometimes like when? I'm in Atlanta it's like Yati would call them. Abram edge studio pull up if doing shit or if I am don't share eyebrow pull up on you afterwards. It's never like a A row where I got to show here and do this and do this and do this now. I just moved with artists. So Yati call me a got something to do with twelve eleven he got a Nigga whatever the case may be and then we go back to the studio where we move around like that. I guess how like all my relationships even with sway and Jimmy and like audit. I know you're in a good position because you're like somebody that they can actually hang out with. This gotta be weird for like producer. Who's got fire ship? And he's just kind of a weird of Donald believing that Weirdos shit man. I don't even like Shit Bro. You can't kick it with somebody and what the situation real shit is for me. It's like it's all about Bob's like if you're right. Bro. I can't vote with you. I can't work with you like my manager before. Like he when he's having conversations with other people artists Managers whatever he told him like. He's very big on vibes. Like so you might WanNa tell them like either have to kick it somewhere else first and then go work or like starbucks cup of coffee or we'll come to study on just about using talk about other shit. I like catch a vibe like big involved. That's how crate for sure dividing right like I'd be in the studio and I believe me and my vibe off in early days what was your balance. Or how do you find the balance between actually working on your craft and then promoting your shit a big decision for any producer coming up? You can do it. Yeah I believe in saying Oh. I'm so tired I can't do this. No candidate my Nigga. I used to work at accounting firm. I used to Ask is going to work at eight. Got Off left. Their drought drove all the way to Camp Creek from like seven to like four or five in the morning. Go home take a shower to go to work lunch break. I'm taking a NAP and my car. On My oversleep. That's got finer star oversleeping. Hey could is worthy Shit like and then from there. It was towns where I used to work at this place. Tomatoes Had TO BE AT WORK AT FOREIGN. Mornin who I want to say and think about coming from the club the night before. Like you just not get home at three only had enough time take a shower and go to work so it was like you got to pack their shit in if this is what you. WanNa do if you WANNA be a boss and you want to be able to wake up every morning and live your schedule. You've gotTa tell you what to do with around the clock in like you gotta be able to fit in. How did you first start to get your beats noticed in the first place because I feel like once you once you get on track with one big artists that could be the thing that you need to propel your career but a lot of people are really stuck on zero. They don't even know how to get to that first point Atlanta is very small. Everybody knows everybody. So it's kind of like word of mouth So like ISIS. Be On twitter every morning. Who NEEDS WHO NEEDS A. This is like who need. Who Need only be suiting? I do that every single day every single day until somebody replied back. You know what I'm saying so like people like Guo Michael Montana Casino from free bands. It's like people like that Scooter is like people like that. There beats and like you just travel everything. There's travel like I remember when Migos I came out and I'm like damn how I'm GonNa get to these negative mark. I've just like hitting up. And they reply back into Nixon. You know I ended up on a ended up on one of the quality control tapes like when he first came out. I was on there so it was like all about word of mouth unlike networking like being out every night running into somebody else right You can't sleep when when those Did you see that old facebook posts online viral of Roddy talking about like Donald on folklore my music by seven years ago? That's crazy 'cause that's like that should just be such a reminder to anybody like yeah maybe motherfuckers don't appreciate your music right now. Maybe you need to work for seven years. I mean sometimes it takes a long. It took me five years ago to get where I'm at now right Fox years to get where I'm at now but you know for the people who don't believe in music. I just fuck him. Who Cares I fuck you right? You know what I'm saying like I had a lot of haters in my life. I have people who told me I could never beat a day in my life ahead. Nicotine me like you know. I wouldn't be where I'm at today. You know and were you at right because it's all about just the hard work and dedication hard work and dedication and I blocked all negative energy. I don't get any type of negative energy. Don't bring that Shit Rami. I will crush bill. Fuck out start definitely. Is it a. Is it tricky? Like moving between all these sort of big artists. They work with like. Do you have been in the situation. Where artists just wanted to really lock down have exclusive access you production for a period of time for that out on now man of. I say fuck where everybody so like. Everybody Know Hi. I'm like man I'm just that negative like I'm just GONNA move around. I move around move around. I don't get too attached. I don't get attached and if you try to let me down. I need some mind egg. I need their bread I do. I need money. Brian's my dividends how comfortable financially right now I'm blessed. Yeah is that new or did you feel the same way a year ago the before music. I have money I was cool my whole life out of my life when you just had a normal job is cool with that but I wanted more right. You know what I'm saying like I take care of my whole family right. No what I'm saying so it was like I wanted more so I'm cool now. You know like Shit I got. What four or five cars Nice House? my mom's taking care of my sister in school. My mom really don't have to work. She just wanted to work. She'd be bored in the house I blessed you feel motivated to get to another level financially like. Is that still something that you had? All Times won't be a billionaire. That'd be a billionaire. You know what I'm saying like that's my next goal is to be a billionaire really. Yeah that's exciting like I mean right now. I'm just like I got everything I need so I really don't spend money on. Shit it at amy. How much does it has? It changed having a number one song. How much does that Change Shit for you man? 'cause I tried to be friends. No more France man. Let me tell you about that. My circle was closed if he wasn't on the ship before you're fucked. I've been telling people like like this. Is My circle like I let my circle and if you get to my circle by that's cool because I don't like people you know what I'm saying so for you to be in my circle. That's a blessing. We're not you know. I'm not saying that. But like me to vote when she was like. Oh Damn didn't actually talk 'cause I WanNa talk to you bright and Shit. Just get crazy what. We're not telling Nicolai Bro. You might want to stick around Stick around you know what? I'm sayin' and you might want to stick RIMAC. Come on Bro. Like if you're trying to be gang you know what I'm saying like you go off and do their own shit and start like I fuck this Nigga or Disney gave me enough money in order to shoot. And Hey all emi beaches trash to get that to somebody told you that somebody important or somebody random how to play this some somebody important. Some of the seem significant enough. They should care. You know what I'm saying and I'm not I'm typing. I don't like beef I'll be. We're all fighting all my life. Bro. Nigga right there here today I've been fighting all my mother fucking life. I don't WanNA fight no more. So it's like for Nichols be like saying Shit like that. I'd be like okay. I keep him over. Is it easy for you to walk away from disrespected this points? You're in a situation where you clearly should just walk away. I'm rich I'm rich. I don't care about none of that shit right arguing shit. We'll we arguing about right. What are we arguing about? That's what I'm thinking. Much meakin to Nikki's husband argument in that store. Yeah like I have too much money to be young each other a Nigga is like I'm I'm financially stable as long as my bills paid my Nigga straight denise. That's working around the straight and you know. I'm comfortable like Bro. Argue ARE NOTEWORTHY NO INSTAGRAM. Shit. Don't call my phone not really bro. How'd you actually make the connection with your dreamers to start moving around with them? If that was already kind of your dream situation just fucking job because of that really man fucking around with Mike. Gas Well Really. It was I was on twitter and I seen I seen swaying. I'm looking for beats. I sent the bee's over there and sway was like Yo Bro. You hard like my manager call you which is Migo and I was like whatever whatever you heard that before him. You know what I'm saying so I was just chilling. I got home turn on the TV. Migo call me and was like Abraham I just WanNa you know I want you to link with Mike and Blah Blah Blah and. I'm article. Bet Let's do it so I get a phone call one day a Pulitzer Studio. So we put up a studio micro. He was taken pictures. Like this seems like you're doing that and I just like we just immediately. Like Star Roasting Really. Yeah that's a good sign started roasting each other I sat in the studio off fucking night with them. They just all night knowing that I had to go to work at eight in the morning. Were you working or were you just now is working? We're still at the accounting firm. But I mean like when you're in there with Mike read I was just. There was just saying that he was working on. I think there was working on two nouns project. Okay M. Desta we'd actually did to nine featuring Jimmy Can't remember the name but yeah so we did. That's all and we're just sitting there all night and I was like damn at six o'clock I'm Goin' closed like I go home. Take a shower and go to work as soon as I got some beach. You WanNa play and I was like I was like Damn Nigga purse plate ending. Mike faces like like that. It was just like with everything. Situating Gary thing right and it's been good ever since ever since then Y- good to hear positive stories about people with the right people and not having to do like the bad deals work out. I if I got to do all that didn't I don't WanNa Make Music Moammar right just like my regular life right so you've been associated with show other people that are too like how do you how do you start working with Kendrick. After all this. Or what was the order of big artists? They start working with so my first hit record teammate. Nasty freestyle Which that came from Bending Gangs Marco Nasty I made originally and then T- way heard into the remix. Dad went up Our next from there was what record up. It was. Rake it up Mike did that and and from there. It was kings dead and then from King's me and Mike do that too from there. It was a Gucci flipflops. Babri while there's gonNA produce that flip from there it was what Boccardi all your body Accardi. Huge Yeah That was like Nikki's like cards third song or second. He's positive absolutely. Follow up the Bodak yellow when people weren't sure if she was really going to add a bunch of follow him and that was that was time right there. So me and cheese did that Turnaround stargazing what you said. No Sir. Oh Yeah. We did. Applause rock okay. from nails like stargazing who would A Lotta whole bunch of Shit. Our twenty savage like malicious kept going. When you're working on Barnier Cardi. Was there a sense that this was like a very important song that I am? This was a big deal. I mean we knew it was a big deal to next day was like April. We need to follow this single like that puts us out. Acm So when you get a mixed in stuff like that so like I knew that was like urgent. I knew it was GONNA go. How'd you even end up in that situation and producing for though you just made something and submitted it or Secret connections a can't say but let's just say it is We created it together. Everything was created together we made to be created their. You know put Cardi on it. Everything got put together. Did you ever do any kind of writing of lyrics are doing flows or hooks for anybody to do everything Okay I'm a real musician. So you have your public facing doing production also have your back sneeze like lately like lately. We've been doing a lot of songwriting and producing and shit like that. A lot of background vocals and ideas and shit like that. So do you. Do you see the appeal of when you look at somebody like Mike. And that makes you think about know. A cow metro. Boone is why dues producers who have like really managed to market themselves like real stars. Is that something that appeals to you? More comfortable just working on the NIGGA. You know what I'm saying like I want to be the Nigga I learned a lot from Mike. You know what I'm saying so you know. It's just a blessing for him to support. What I'm doing and putting stuff together and and I make shit happen right. What I'm saying. So yeah definitely. Yeah definitely do you. Both I mean sure. There's a lot of comes with too. I'm not GonNa Handle Audit. You can handle it. Ain't no pressure Bro. Good Bro is meant as a lot of comes within the sense of like you know just sort of putting the light constantly on yourself. But you don't seem like the kind of guy either. Who's going to be talking crazy on instagram? To try to get some cloud or whatever and there's a lot of that union thing catch me and caught up with no bitch instagram. You Ain't been catch me arguing with no Nigga on instagram. And you ain't GonNa catch me clout Jason on Instagram. 'cause I don't like people just like I just like the Post my nice pictures and you're like Oh man we interact on some positive shit. The meal all their negative ship will cause you to fuck out simple. That's real. I don't want no smoke Just get into it. Just get into. I just WANNA make make records be striking. Is it hard for you to balance the work part and actually enjoying your life as a producer you can easily just spend like fourteen hours a day? Just dark room is is not. I mean I gotTa Studio Crip We travel with a studio Lot of producers you know. Do some don't We travel with a studio. I just live life. You know what I'm saying. We'll talk like I balance it out right you know like. I tried to make sure at least Sundays like my. You know what I'm saying my family days and shit like that so yeah. Do you feel like you get less done when you're on the road though in terms of your actual musical output. That's why we got where we we got the speakers right now. Just because on in car really GONNA make be right out there right now. Have you ever actually watched the show? Thirty rock no never seen. It actually had the name before. Third row really. We're the name from thirty so so That thirty hang out. It started with We was in a basement. It was to rappers to producers originally. Okay we were producing for group. We just tried to do this. Like whole. Let's run it up type. Shoot and coming up with name so they had their names already rappers. Dead Am me and my boy. We had our names at all so picking nothing. Because I don't like to come over names. That ain't me okay Saga got frustrated. I was upstairs on the phone. That's my face time I started popping changed everything so I'm off as Tom. Is Mama Business He comes days like thirty rock. I'm like okay. Who'S GOING TO BE THIRTY? Who'S GONNA BE ROCK? He's like we could just say we're thirty rock and I was like okay and I just ran with it and eventually you know Bro. Stop doing some work and the name was already getting. Branded artists are starting to wrap on the beats and stuff like that so it was like I couldn't change my name so you just got wrong. Ask Rolling with it but a lot of people right now. Thirty Okay Yeah. Do people ever here. The thing that you're like a drug Addict Park Thirties. Kinda mean right. Now I don't even know nothing about drugs. Yeah that's good yeah. I only smoke hookah just hookah but I gotta smoke weed. Say from the thirties. That's for sure Damn that's crazy so like at this point in your life so I got to talk about the box a little bit more so you in the studio. How much work had you done with Roddy before that particular Song I met rowdy before. Roddy Roddy. Okay. I'm Roddy right before. Die Young and all that stuff. I met writing when he was trying to farm himself. Unlike he had himself like he was trying to find. Like what Lane who's GonNa be high like execute it So the first time. I met him It was just like on some mean Greek type Shit. Second time I met him Our Washington studio played them copies. We caught a stupid Bob. He was like that same night he was like. I mess crazy because I actually wanted to have you on album and I'm like I ain't shit. Let's make it happen because we had just the song for fabulous album called time on feature roddy so he's down just like an album like your album a great album producer. And I'm like Oh shit I appreciate it so the third time well does the second time right so we went back to Atlanta and Kifah was like Low me a whole bunch of beats and I just kept loading him upbeats. Loan them. Abe's and we originally. I WANNA say originally had two tracks on the album before we even sent over. The box enroll dice. Oh so we sent those beats over and it was like they just called. You keep calling. We got one right and from there. Just been history and the earth thing like Ashley happened in that. First Session like that just happened. That's just it just rowdy. Been doing lives right and good as engineer making new sound like it was in the B. Oh so just started out as a as a regular all ad Lib and Y'all kind of focused in on because I definitely wouldn't have put that in the beaten center to riding like imagine that like imagine allowed as you know what I'm saying it when the beat I come on in this area like I wouldn't put that into beat you know what I'm saying. Because if if play variety right he would probably be like what the fuck is this. You know what I'm saying. Yeah next week. So that's why I wouldn't put that in the beat but I'm glad he did it because they sink to make sound like everything was put together. But it's crazy. Now take talking shit. It feels like a lot of the beats that become viral. The ones that have some really fucking weird. Catchy Little Aberration Eh. Yeah definitely I mean. That's what's popping right now The simple beeps and crazy ass either. Drum patterns hard has melodies squeak? Squeak a lot of copycat squeaking going. Yeah definitely there's a lot of shit going on man has been buying for quite right. Yeah do you ever get hurt over there like people stealing sauce that you feel you brought to the table now can still demos ten steps ahead and not does not let me say this is not to be talking yard? Nick is trying to comforting and congressman. I tried to stay ten steps ahead like Like production awesome whole different Shit. Like we're always like okay. We did this now. What's next We don't try to just use the same age drums to same patterns over noble like you. Yes y'all will hit a reverse eight again and a couple mobile but they're not going to be in the same place as what the boxes are in like. I mean the four three or whatever the case may be like they won't be net same pocket so weird for me. Somebody who doesn't like really understand the production side of things as much but to just realize that there's a war of beats ago of drums specifically going all times of like a constant evolution and process that the average person is kind of blind to their ear can censor tired as beat from a couple of years ago. Do you feel that the that the drums are different? If you don't have the language such as myself to explain it definitely I mean I got beats right now. I won't play because I'd be like Dan most drums. I like outdated Order Jones. Don't sound as good as I know I can make sound now. So it's like yeah. Honest shows like evolution movie. That's real shit when you saw just bieber engaging in corrupt practices trying to tell us fans to do stuff to defeat. Roddy and you know that field. I didn't care Danny Walk Three weeks big book. I now rush it I think you know that just shows you that hip hop has hip hop plays a big part in culture and life and music because it took people like Ariana Grande Day. And and just go like. Oh I'm going to. I'm going around to all walmarts to go bio my albums and like do the box did was double platinum right now. Double Platinum right now without no video brand new artist and brand new arts no video and you got Justin Bieber and Selena Gomez. Begging for listening aren't can get it so she probably told show playlists. Play it on low. No but I mean that's just shocking. Like kids from kids who were really were nothing like a year or two ago and you're dealing with people who've been famous entire lives and it's like you know that shows you that you know the production is good as hell and Roddy Shit is five. Spoke like affiars. Do you know what I'm saying? Is there a party that wants to like just work with him super heavily and just trying to be your Ford near Roddy just taught like well? Today's go go and soon as we get off tour like I'm GonNa catch more like one and tour dates but like when he get on tour like we lock it in right. I'm saying we just don't go crazy a share. I mean what what what what. What are the main questions that you get from producers? Because I just know that like we don't interview hunter producers and I know that like they are going to want certain information from you and I kind of feel bad because myself non-producing I don't necessarily know what the information that they really feel like they can get from you is what's your hunch on that You ready so tell us every interview. Doing they asked me questions like this. I'd be like minute motherfucking. Business Module motherfucking businesses module motherfucking business. Like real talk just create bro. Make beats that you think is hard man. Don't let no nicotine or this or that ain't it like Anything could change the wave like and just network. You know what I'm saying like you gotta get. You gotta realize this job like the reason why I really don't use the studio microbe that because sometimes I feel like I don't go to work. You know what I'm saying like I'm being my draws making beats. You know what I'm saying. I don't do that like I want to get. Dressed are take mass downtown. Thirty minute drive and to make it feel like I'm going to work. It feels good. Honestly I worry about producers or artists are just in the Kerala time because I know for me getting up getting ready and going into the Office. A need that process to work. You know like that you know what I'm saying like that. That should not move so I get up every day. I'm on my mother fucking business and I get to work. You know what I'm saying. I tell everybody. Manja motherfucking business state man. Keep head low. You know what I'm saying. Don't get caught up in what's going on right now make with the fuck you. WanNa make you feel B.'s. Got like some Goddamn pop. Shit going on Edna going on and you feel like that's going to work for this hip hop artists. That one beat might change that hip part is life like do you have aspirations. Edm beach or anything. You feel like everything. Do Everything Everything I do have obese. I just did a F O B on Cazenove album mayhem did a joint album with Tori. Lyons offer music out there that yeah we do me him. Tori lanes and veto I do I. Do you know what I'm saying like right now. Actually this is so crazy. I'm actually starting more RB. Learn now like this all year like we. I mean not this year but like this past week we've been working straight RB. Yeah and that was Joe. Really so yeah. That's pretty cool. Where the bags up is it. I don't know yeah. That's definitely bag as a different audience for sure definitely different audience. Definitely they support different. Sometimes they buy shit they do shit women be shopping every fucking thing they buy man. Hey man shorty going say dropped this. I'm dropping this album such and such as the you know two days later is going to be on tour like it works like this so you got a girlfriend on talk person try. Yeah deums open Don't slide in my deums. I I mean I get crazy. Dm's you know what I'm saying. I talk about getting. GimMe a prediction of something that you want to have accomplished within a year or two so that Dan in once you do it. You can take this clip from this interview and put it on. You're going to be like I told you man I want a label will be one of the best labels out a twelve on our. You know what I'm saying. I want I want every produce on there to be rich on both. My artists are three martyrs to be Papa Yeah I just. I just wanted be boss. Nope saying like I want to be liable boy whole family there it is. We're all aspiring behove chewing for same appreciate shutouts anything she wants to any any warnings about future content. That's on the way. Which is Nicole popular? Shades ed come up here popular. Shit just want to let them say is one thing popular. She I'll twenty to twelve o nine major application up pressure. This he said. That's what producer. Yeah he helped me produced box So you can Last night you're just one on there called battle but em out just want to be a boss man and shout out to every fuck Nigga out there that Denver leaving me. I'm here and I made enough money. I made money like thirty round Bro. Thanks so much I appreciate it. Because on congratulations on all your success saying Iraq no jumper clothes. Pockets world tickets on soundcloud. I tunes like comments. Treadmill DOT COM support we out.

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Are you number 7?

Untie the knots of Life

04:37 min | 3 months ago

Are you number 7?

"Originals Nemo skyro- Baba's. Welcome to another amazing podcast. Undyed the nuts of your life with numerology. This is Mi Ni. How your transformation coach Tarot Reader numerology gist and DNA astrologer continuing the series? This spot. Gus will help you number. Sevens in undying the knots off your life. You have a number seven influence if you are born on Seventh Sixteen or twenty fifth of any month do look at the addition of all the numbers in your fully of birth as well before we begin in case. You haven't already yet followed me on my social media. Please do instagram facebook and Youtube. Thank you so much for your support and Feedback Jake. Out The description for all the handles. Some of the content recently applauded on my instagram. Handle Neo goyal N E H double G. Y. L. Will definitely help you in life. Step streaks and hacks for emotional wellbeing in the lockdown period. Find me there and join our instant family and with that. Let's begin so all you secretive mysterious and ever curious number. Seven's how you doing. You are never satisfied with what chose up on its face value. It's almost as if you intuitively know that this cannot be there is more to it and thus you set yourself on an adventure of seeking the real truth hugh can figure out a person while they give out leased information about themselves and you are quick to judge them to basis that however when it comes to you no one truly knows you in fact if there is someone out there who asks as many questions as you do to them about you. You will go into your safe-space your shell of disconnection the place you are most comfortable. Elaine is `isolation. They are deeply contemplating. And yes in your room away from it all. Isn't it so in fact? This lockdown petered is not too heavy on you in body for you but allow us due to the ways of the world you have to coexist even though that drain your energy like how and of course you do have a number three five or six in your data. Would you're most likely to become a teacher a spiritual guide a preacher a seeker? You can be very good research and does and adviser especially in those matters which might be hidden from naked. Ice Number seven can tie the knot of their life by meditating often instead of doubting everyone's intent utilized this energy in researching on human behavior. Yes not only. Do you have an interest in it? But you can be very good. Mapping human behavior as well and highlighting to other people. They're hidden pattern which they cannot see so instead of doing it involuntarily really dating other people making them feel judged. Do it voluntarily and help others. You know what else you can do. You can even begin a podcast right here on her paper of all your researches and findings of innumerable subjects that you have had interest in this way in fact you will find a suitable audience as well. Tell me number sevens. Did you enjoy listening about this? I am glad that you came back on this podcast. Do Message me with your love and feedback stay tuned as I soon up with the number eight journey. Love you all Namaskar. Roddy Roddy Have Hoffa Ridge notice the Nikkei. Yeah I gotTa Abby of Nevada's launch cannata though hob hobos studio website beer stuck at it aikman again that ended up knuckled covered gas launch. Getting yet he studio the up woody as Viga He Kabibi of NEPAD launch Anneke. Sin Dinos on steps May of Nevada's shoe day yet. Just hop on how papa simply content.

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Are you a number 4?

Untie the knots of Life

06:25 min | 7 months ago

Are you a number 4?

"Hub hopper originals stability requires a certain level of Seedier snus especially long-term deeply rooted stability. Now what is the first thing which comes through your mind when you're building a house from ground up a structure right now. That's what a number four is structured. no-nonsense Hustler I ne- her Goyo. numerology mindset coach Tarot reader and healer. Welcome welcome you to this week's episode of undyed nuts off life visit numerology on hub hopper. If you're born on a foot put two ND twenty second thirty first of a month then you do have an influence of the number four. In western Western astrology number four is associated with the planet Uranus and invaded numerology Rahu which is not not the mood and now do notice that van which is urinalysis a Fahd of a planet we cannot see from any kid is and the other will is not even a solid planet. It's the shadow of the moon. What does that? Dennis number four is associated with illusions. Wins that which is not but one might perceive it to be. You know what I mean. Let me give you an example. Uh again going back to that House that he will building in the beginning this structure or the blueprint is not tangible right. It has no presence in the physical therefore it is important for a number full in order to anti not of their life to learn and differentiate and she ate between that which is real and that which is not not that what is not real important. The blueprint is important to build. The house does just that not to get too attached with it. I mean obviously. How will it work if one is attached to the blue blueprint and while building the house? Virginia's required they're still stubborn to stick to the blueprint. So be ready to change because an illusion has known longevity. You number four attracts a lot of extreme ups and downs in their life. These are in fact. Those people who had often heard seeing that my life life has been an emotional rollercoaster and I understand that my recommendation to all number forces to live a scheduled and a disciplined flint life. Now you're here to settle into a structure meet this structure. What it such that it develops you join a group which is driven towards learning something valuable and something new every day meditate? This is a very important tool for you to stabilize stabilize your mind. Learn sound healing or at least dig regular sound healing sessions. This will work on your physical structure structure your body as humans are but sounds anything which heightens the illusion such as alcohol or coffee or tea or too much exposure to TV excetera. I recommended to be avoided as in the long term. Then they might leave with your mental health more than you can imagine number force also number four Viseu Sirius. You got teaches us to lighten up and approach life as a playground of a child. I understand that it's your tough childhood. Who'd had specially your relationship with your father and mother which has made you so CDs because you had to take up your responsibility to soon? But that's the past now. Oh lighten up. What some laughter shoes play with kids? Yes play with kids. That is highly recommended for you. What some Baby David? US Smile and laugh often in fact everyday C. U. R. and out of the box thinker. The way you think everybody around you can auditing so cut them some slack. They cannot be you your unique ideologies in part due process is required by humanity. Yes you are often considered to be ahead of your time. Also that you consider to be a rebel. You know people look down upon you and they try to stop your hustle by saying that. You're a rebel. But whether they tell you are not the do wish to have your kind of guided and your kind of a mind added to that. If you become driven to word Gordon during the night of your life with the above recommendations you are an unstoppable force Bruno that so this his music new signing off if you wish to have a personal consultation or a session with me you can contact me on my. WHATS APP number nine nine double one six six seven one six double five nine nine one six seven one six double five or you can connect with me on my instagram handle any H.W? Gio Why. AL ON FBI KNEE-HIGH GUALTIERI meeting both of these platforms have unique take life hacks and discussions happening on them all the time. I wish to stay connected with you on all these platforms. Do Right to me or wherever you decide. Connect with me have a beautiful week ahead Namaskar. Roddy Roddy help but notice the Nikkei Yep I got up the up Nevada's launch happy full hob Hobo Studio website. Beer gutted minute game. That ended up knuckled podcast launch. Getting yet he. No he studio the up woody as Avi he of NEPAD cut launch Gimmicky thin thin on step Smith. Though sock me of Nevada's shoot emme Gilliat there yet just hop on hop simply content.

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Are you a Number 9?

Untie the knots of Life

04:38 min | 2 months ago

Are you a Number 9?

"Hub hopper originals. Namaskar to all have hoppers. This is me how. Goyal your numerology transmission gorge and the strategy. I welcome you all to today's podcast of untidy. North of life with numerology the have so far word numbers eight. You can visit the playlist of this podcast for all the previous episodes and today we will speak about the been there done that number night. Stick till the end of this podcast. If you were born on nine eighteenth or seven of a month also look at the addition of your entire date of birth for the see if it adds up tonight then you do have an influence of the number nine in case you haven't already do join me on my other social media platforms on Instagram on my handle knee. Hungary which is any H. W. E. G. Y. L. I put out daily centric for self-improvement and Anouk Giannini. Hug will trim reading. I regularly post videos on the same topic because I truly believe every self empowered person helps in creating another self empowered person either through influence or through inspiration so recently. I was trying my luck on this new APP. Vici- Meka I was strangled some Casino Games. They had a good range like monopoly. Blackjack I mean not that. I knew anything about them but what got. My eyes was how beautifully they were using the energy of number nine. Apparently I could win nine light nine hundred thousand rupees the just rupees nine per spin. Now this is numerology at its best number nine. A go-getter now. Why did I call number nine up in there and that number when notice how it comes last in the number series of single numbers? This is a number which has some qualities and characteristics of all the previous numbers. Some experts also consider number nine people to be old sold. This all could be here to end cycles and conclude things let go of for that which no longer serves its soul journey. Does number nine will face a lot of endings in their life after all the humans and might feel the pinch of it to their aggressive impulsive and often considered to be quarrelsome however a lot of times they will also see be seen as philanthropists and generous people. Very sensitive suits yet. They might not be strong in the listening abilities. Got It sticks which they do need to develop in this life of patients thinking before acting and learning how to judge other person strewed not just on face value. If you speak with the number nine someone who is tapping into this energy negativity will be heard saying how stupid of that person? I was absolutely right and justified and doing what I did often. This is how they get into quarrels or misunderstandings with people. That's anger management is the best remedy. Laughter is another remedy so please what as many laughter shoes and learn to live life with a pinch of salt do that. Not everyone out there to get you sometimes. It is allison to let go and forgive as well. All you number nine's you. You do have a tendency of being a perfectionist therefore it is important for you to learn that not everybody is like you not everybody so far has already lived the journey of intuit and then dive lessons might be very different from yours. Therefore my friends all you number nine. Please learn how to let go and not expect the same level of perfectionism from everybody around you. This my friends is my Dick on number. I hope you enjoy this. What stay tuned until next week Namaskar? Roddy Roddy help. It's no close. The Nikkei yeah I got a be of Nevada's launch cannata being. They'll have Hobo studio website. Beer just stuck at it. Ekman again that ended up knock with Gabor launch getting yet studio the up would abby He Kabibi of NEPAD cut launch sin. Dinos on step Smith both of Nevada shoe there yet just halt on Papa simply content.

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March 27 2019

Elon Daily

10:58 min | 1 year ago

March 27 2019

"The. Number goes, no have here for your ill day this Wednesday much. I've got a check this every time twenty seventh two thousand and nineteen. And yes, lead boys and girls today is tesla trian stole day. I hope by the time. You're listening to this. I'm hoping that the tesla people are in their van driving towards my house with three can't them three Powell's to do the old backup of the old healthy house. We will see later boys and girls, we will see full report for report coming tomorrow. That's what will be about tomorrow. But for today listener, boys and girls, there's some good news for those of you that live in countries that drive on the wrong side of the road. And I used to live in one of those countries cold a stroller and the UK in the wild. Somebody took a picture of a right hand drive model three which is really pretty exciting. It's from Reta, Mr. salty peanuts. I love these retina, Mr. salty peanuts on the I two eighty. So a right hand drive muddle, and this story is on electric, the exciting thing about this different bojangles is that there's a lot of people in the case. There's a lot of people in the strays that wanna get themselves on a tesla. But because in both of those countries, I believe that Qasr way more expensive than the US the model S animal exit out of reach for most people, but the model three while still being an expensive car will be much more in line with the kind of prices that you would spend on a mid range vehicle in those countries. And as I've said before in Strayer that means somewhere around sixty ish thousand dollars, which again is not cheap cab. But it does bring it down a little bit better than a hundred and fifty to two hundred thousand dollars for an X. Thank you very much because of the way the model has been made in that simplified interior. We've just got the screen in the middle. It is probably true that is easy to produce a Ryan hand model in this type of car than it is in a standard car. I'm might be talking out of my bottom. But I believe that that is probably true. I also read some good news on tesla. Roddy tesla Roddy is reporting that there's this German comic as in cool dish beagle. I don't know how to pronounce that. So forgive me, if I just destroyed that, but they got their hands on a model three and they did a review, and generally that was super positive first of all the fact that the model three is so zippy fast zero to one hundred dollars an hour and three point five seconds top speed of one hundred and fifty five and validated. Oldest? Yes, that's true. Putting it ahead of some really high-performance sedans that come from Germany like the BMW M three. They like the fact that there's lots of Kevin spice. They loved the dogma. They love the over the air updates. They were not so happy about some of the stuff that we're not so happy about that. There's a bit too much reliance on that fifteen inch Cinta console screen for things like I just want to open up the glove compartment for goodness sake. Couldn't you just put a little Novi no on there. Now. This is a big deal. Right. Because this is really. Big publications being around just post sick. And we'll we'll has a circulation of almost a million copies. Po week one of the biggest publications in Europe, according to test ready. So it's a big deal. And they're saying, you know, the German kinda manufacturers need to sit up and take notice because this American manufacturer with this electric vehicle might become into ate your lunch. So it's nice to have these reviews because I think all of that stuff is true. This car is fast. This has some great features. I agreed that there is some stuff. That's not so good about the fact that there is this incredible reliance on the fifteen inch screen and also people have noted here that the interior trim and stuff isn't really at the same level as the high end Mercedes and high MB news, I expect that they might get to that. But once you drive model three you don't wanna go back to any other. Now that is the kind of advantage that tesla has right now. But a lot of that is simply about the fact that the electric. Drive train is simply better smoother more talk than an ice drive train. So when Mercedes and win BMW have real electric house with Rio range that we ever compete much more head to head with tesla except for one thing. And you know, what that is? She losing was that one thing is those charge network these companies, even if they have vehicles that are almost as good or as good as Tesla's and model threes, a model wise, I would still not say go by Mercedes or a BMW electrica, even though it's really good because you need that to charge network to make it a real for those long distances, so those common factors are you listening? Hello, get busy stout. Building out the networks for long distance charging or for when you're driving long distances for fast, DC charging is this thing on you listening. Oh, I doubt it tesla. Roddy also has a rendering of SpaceX steel. Yes. It steel starship as. It's reentering, and it's pretty sweet looking. So again, this is the buck Rogers looking starship, and as its reentering here, they've got from the popular mechanics, April twenty nineteen issue. A rendering of what this starship is gonna look like, and it sort of glows red and white hot as it reenters. It looks pretty spectacular by the way account wait to see this thing. Get busy and get up in the Spacey's as it were. And then come back from the Spacey's as it were. Now, the verge has a little article written by Sean Kane from Dale Sogo that says that the stand thirty five thousand standard range thirty five thousand model three that was announced February twenty eighth hasn't really gotten out into the world and some customers kind of ticked off about it. So it's just about four weeks after the originally said it will be available and they haven't shipped a single one. According to the verge and. So boys and girls a lot of people are lead upset about this. So what does that mean? I don't know what that means. But if I go onto the test the website right now, and I try and get a standard range version. The estimated delivery is six to eight weeks now and ice wit you. Oh well accounts whip. I swear to you that when it first came out it said four weeks so something is up with the production of that either. Because they're selling enough of the higher end vehicles in Europe and China that sort of pushback some of these sales of the lower cost Cas. Or maybe there is actually a production issue with that smaller battery peck, pure speculation. We'll keep an eye out to see what happens next and a couple of Ilan dailies ago, we talked about what's the mile per gallon equivalent of walking we said somewhere around two hundred four hundred miles per gallon equivalent ready for another one of these ridiculous ideas. Well, he is one for you. What's the model? Pogue Elon equival equivalent sorry of riding a bicycle. And let's say that you're not in great shape. And you're writing about nine miles per L. We'll there's a core answer to this Nicola answer is if you do the math that the average person would get about five thousand miles per gallon equivalent that can't be right Canet. And indeed, it may not be right because it depends on a lot of different factors. So other people's answer. This is you've got affect factor in a sort of a twenty percent officiency of turning food into energy and ATP that humans use to make their muscles work. And so it's probably more like a bad a thousand miles per gallon equivalent, but the point is that in general, boys and girls the point is it's an even more efficient way of getting around than walking. And it might be like five or ten times more efficient. Oh, I know that you're excited about these. And there are more coming. Don't you worry? But Fidel latest boys and girls that's enough of Ilan daily. And we're gonna talk more tomorrow about the Powell in. Delay Shen day one. They said it's gonna take two days. I know the not gonna turn it on because it's going to have to get inspected. But I'll be just phone alling it and looking at it, and touching it and take pictures of it soon as the install occurs, actually. And lastly for today, I've had take in the wife's ex of the take the way exceeding because of three issues. I issue the center air conditioning in the backseat doesn't work for some reason. There's no air blowing out of that thing. There's some actuator issue. They're gonna get that fixed. The second thing that's in there right now. Second thing is that the windscreen wiper on the driver. So I'd goes too far off the glass and back and goes clunk clunk clunk. So that's good. That's an easy fix tweak it, and then the loss one is the tesla x was not talking to the app and also when you're in the test irks, the you could not find out real time updates of the supercharge network. And we're having problem with the maps. So it turns out I took it in today. And they said, it's sort of the LT cellular module. 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The Chair  Episode 022

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The Chair Episode 022

"This week we have a film that we have Kind of we're not so much taking our time getting too but it has taken some time getting to it has gone. It's not because we were putting it off as just because there's so much other stuff that we're doing as well so But it had it had sat on the list long enough. Yes it is time. It was time and Take this opportunity before we get into this In this film one of the stars is our our friend Kyle Hester and who we interviewed In his also a bounty hunter Hank in in Gray Yep in a Zombie with a shotgun bounty hunter that that was his nickname Kyle has a lot of stuff going on He's got a preacher. Six a movie they WANNA finish. The movie has been shot. But there's still stuff to do and you know You can you can if you follow us on twitter. You're going to see kyle's stuff and we re tweeted Jumping on that. Also the coupe brand new film written by his wife Tracy and they wanna get that going So you know jump on that too. We WanNa do what we can to get things going for for these projects Yeah he also has a project For solar powered film. Oh Yeah Yeah yeah so that you know films can you know? Let's use solar power to get all the stuff going so check all these things out right. had out Find US searched the coupe and a preacher six I think I'll throw a link in our show notes. And he's he's a really big proponent for creatives in the indie world and he supports other projects and yeah yeah and this is the guy who showed up and started acting. He's done he's worked on set he was grip. He's he's done a lot of shit you know he's he's like came up from the trenches. Y- and got his his little bits and pieces in and now he's in a position to do some stuff and you know let's help him out because he's our B. Movies are darlings. All right so Longest intro ever. It's all right good stuff to do. Actually I think my no now that wounds short anyway so we have a film why we WANNA get into because this bad boy is something else. It's greedy in bloody and Hara. Yes yeah and it could make certain people a little uncomfortable. It definitely could for a number of race but more importantly. There's a lot of lessons to turn this movie us and we delve into those. Yes yeah all right well. Let's get this bad boy gone. Kill all right. We're off AV CIDERS. Welcome to another episode of Bravo for the B side. I'm Danny and I'm Jim this week. We are covering a movie that our our friend Kyle Hester Suggested to us It was made. While you're GonNa do that Kyle is one of the stars in it. Yeah and If for those of you who have listened to the interview with Kyle did talk about it and said some things you did now. I A lot of those things that in the interview and and it's funny because We follow each other on twitter and one of the. I don't know there was there was a conversation going on. I'm like Oh yeah by the way so the chair. Yeah we're going to talk to you about that. 'cause yeah it was a half. There was some stuff happening. Ages responded back. I told you so. Andy did correct. So that's that's what we're getting into this week. Yeah the chair is really excited to watch this one. Yeah and It took US forever to get to it but it took us too long however. I did respond to Kyle's message on twitter or because of the name Jane. Yes if it finally yeah Nice So yeah took awhile to get to this because we well. We have a schedule. I mean we we bump things as we find them so we got kind of into a role found. This found that like Oh you know I know our list just keeps getting bigger so finally I thought you know what? Let's just knuckle down on this. Yeah let's do the chair so we rented it and let's start talking about. Yeah why don't you tell us about it all right so we are talking about the chair Twenty sixteen for several movies. That have chair in. That was a couple of their name. The chair yeah and there are some with chair in it so it took a bit of doing. Yeah it's like Well it's like fractured. Yeah right and I know you didn't see it because you were ill. I could watch it. I don't think you need to. I got to cover and everyone's happy that it was out there. I manage money but yet like that. There's like thirty films. Yeah you know. The fractured fractured this fracture. And then when I was doing a search on the graphic right for the I put in fractured. Got like fifty fucking rows of broken. A movie called broken now. Same thing not even what the Hell Anyway? So the chair. Twenty sixteen director Chad Ferron Written by Aaron coat. And I sure I fucked that up Peterson Eddie starring bill overs junior. Roddy Piper Roddy Piper God resting in peace. Yeah let's see no hatheway and of course Carl Hester. It's not doesn't have an official rating but it would definitely be rated R. or sure for a lot of things so folks if you're thinking Can sit down with the kid. Depends how old that kid is be warned while the posters should throw you off of that right away. Yeah there's nothing family friendly about that at all okay. We had a where we estimated budget of one hundred thousand and here is the The log line so based on the alternative comics graphic novel of the same name. The chair follows the story of Richard Sullivan. A man on death. Row Struggling to escape a grisly fate pitted pitted against sadistic warden and his crew of crew of cruel. Prison guards. Sullivan is forced to confront his own horrifying past as he questions his sanity at every turn It's worth noting Aaron Cohort and. I'm sure I fucked up twice now. is the one who edited the graphic novel. It's yes And so there we go all right. Let's let's get into this film. As we observed it is a some cool stuff to talk about? At the end there is yeah And it was going quite fast so I didn't have a lot of time for reflective you know no. It was just like this is happening now. This is happening. Okay so jumping right into this movie. Let's do it. We start with Some disorienting shots. There's an alarm. There's some show. Sounds there's gunshots People Kinda spring into action not Not Super What's the word I'm looking for like covering what eat no? You don't get a good sense of what's going on in detail. It's just like disorienting. Yeah Yeah The credits start to roll While that's happening there is a guy in a butcher apron with gloves. Goggles Super Cool God does not like like workplace cockles known safety. You know things like like steam punky. Almost yeah yeah Has Shirts covered in blood? There's a lot of different shots of him. Doing stuff And you kinda get the sense that he's torturing someone probably right. I'm M. N. Yes just lots of clothes separately. Angular shots right. Yeah it it was trying to think of what movie it reminded me of really. The only thing that came to mind was seven but seven. Didn't have shots of what was going on in the film. It was all those weird pictures in the writings and articles but even those were like weird angles and a movement of the camera and the flickering bills Casto. So yeah it was really Kinda pop up Once that all faded away we started getting into it is. I was looking at this. And there's something about the color and I was just looking at it and I thought well this isn't Like color issue right because it was. It was totally accurate. Orlando like when you know when the color we have color issues and some of the films. We've seen things are wonky and fucked up not in relation to one another. This was more art house. E Yeah and really did reminded me of a very fifties. Look Yeah you know it was just something about. The color wasn't super bold. It was an and it really. Wasn't I guess it was kind of muted but You know not in a bad way and it made me think of Forbidden Planet. Been planted forbidden planet in terms of like Seifein. Just epochs was a masterpiece on multiple levels and the cinematography in that bad boy was awesome in the. I think it was color vision. I love the original names. The gave to new tech in film all the different all the different color processing companies color vision film But it was really good and then I got looking at it. And I'm like well maybe early seventies late sixties the art house stuff. You know In the beginning then started to remind me of Grind House films. Yeah I keep coming back. You know But yeah like Danny said it was happening super fast and you know he's just took a minute to process that while everything was flown. By so yeah. It's not four K. depth which is awesome. You know it has a real grit to it and I was digging it. And I'm thinking now. I wonder if that's going to be like this spoiler. It's satisfying so after. It came out of my self master Pretoria fantasy of color. And all of this We have a voiceover and it's a prisoner talking about how It's four years of trials and appeals all to land him in jail There's a life was lost. His boss framed him for a mass murderer. In which twelve kids were killed. The bosses kid being one of them. And now this guy's on death row and talking about how monstrously they're being treated by the guards. This sorry to interrupt you but his hand we do this. His initial voice over here I got a little bit lost in it. Not like lost as to what was going on in it but when it was happening. I couldn't I couldn't quite write down. What was going on because there was something really poetic about it. It was really well done. Yeah Yeah I mean. That wasn't lost on me. It was very very well done. Not The actor phenomenal voice for this and then the writing you know it really all just. Kinda came to go like Morgan Freeman thing. You know when the writing is good. And you got Morgan voice like Oh life is good yeah it really was Fitting yes I guess is the best way to put it. It really came in and I guess we should back up a little bit. Have not read the graphic novel now. Okay just don't have time to see everything that's out there. I'm still trying to make my way through a space. Battleship Yamato the full collection two pages in and attack Titan two pages in on that too. I'm in the middle of Saao still but we've seen all the enemies. It's been like four years. I know all right so After the voice over we have a tray being wheeled down the hall on some Nasty Looking Shit on a plate It's just isn't an inmate cackling in the guard Played by Roddy Piper or name is Murphy. Roddy is saying it's fine food. Today he sets the tray on the cell door platform and as inmate comes over for it. He just tips it on the floor. And then calmly walks away and Another prisoner is asking for some food and Murphy looks at him. We'll ha- hungry are you. Yeah like that at all. So then we're back with the Goggle Guy He puts on some music. It's like classical music. Yeah always classical music. Yeah old stuff Old stuff the county here. Like played on Victoria. Yeah and he's playing it on vinyl right. Yeah but I just wanted to mention that because it seemed like that particular choice wasn't necessarily or the film maybe like classical music of some kind but I think these were probably Public domain pieces recordings. That had been you know out there forever. Lots of classical music domain Steph That's fine and they need talking over a PA system to the prisoners. He says it's time for them to walk around bits exercise time and we learned that. He's the warden And my initial thought was Jesus. He's Heaven Anyway And then he The Guard Roddy Piper Murphy. He's talking about the word and he says he's an eccentric genius to another guard. Yeah Yeah Yeah And he the warden says that Sammy. Who's a guy who's sitting in a cell with a freshly missing leg yes is? I'm just above the knee down his pants or tied off. There's still blood seeping so yeah. It was pretty recent since. Sammy can't walk around with everyone. He's GonNa spend some quality time with the warden yeah MSN. I wrote Sali. Because I was trying to figure out what the guys name was And I try not to like pull that from the flat log line. I try to like get it from the movie itself when I'm making my notes. Yeah well yeah. That's what we do. Yeah the are are talking about. The film is based off our notes. As we're watching it right. It's not like we watch it and then we rim. You know we compare. His name was this and we looked at things up and find them. You know we want to deliver this. What's going through our heads like you know the one time I went on this whole long diatribe because I just I just fucked and left the movie. I was sitting minute left. I sort of thinking about shit and this and that. So yeah yeah so. He's guy who was framed. He's talking to another prisoner. Who's nice to him? They seem to be really friendly with each other And then the the guy who was cackling earlier crazy is what I call him in my notes Just comes up in a costume and then crazy gets locked back in the cell. And he's like up against the bar is still shouting and stuff and the warden electrifies the bars. Yes of the cell and the Nice prisoner is who is talking to solly Is Up against the bars as well and he gets electrified kind of as a byproduct will. Yeah the whole. Bank of cell doors. Yes electrified. Yeah he happened to be leaning up. Yeah yeah because he was eating Any falls down and Murphy the Guard Roddy Piper Bisects him with the cell door really slowly well. It was kind of like Like squeezing water balloon. It was he was like you could see the thing here right and then reached that point was like I just went right through him. Cut Him right in half at the waist pretty good effects. I like the One of the other guards is Kinda horrified by it but Murphy Israel blase. He's like whatever clearly a man who's been on the job for a while right and he has no patients for these prisoners. No it's the job. Yeah so as this is all going on and then we enter into a flashback from our main inmate Sali which is Sullivan. Right Jack. Because united catch later but so So Sullivan is taking us back in time. He's got an abusive mother Just this all this stuff going on did just yards it. She's beaten us not out of home here and then there and then yelling and saying awful shit and then he wakes up and bones is the guy who got cut in half Nice Guy. Yeah the Nice Guy. So bones is his name is bone bunker bones anyway his The blood is slowly flowing. I thought it was flu. I thought he was in the next cell. Just 'cause I it. It was so quick. Yeah he was laying down and they didn't show so it wasn't as blood was flowing in from the next cell is just. The blood is flowing from the half that stuck in the cell. Yeah well both sitting there ones outside one's inside and so it's creeping towards his cot and everything makes him puka bed and then Another inmate I guess is brought from somewhere else in this prison. Yeah this is death row. These guys are on death row. Yeah and they bring some other guy with a mob. And he's pretty cheery and right away. I knew something was going to happen. Because here's the thing right. You don't need to be imprisoned to know this but you just keep your fucking mouth shut. Why he comes in sort of a not like Super Positive Guy Chitchatting. But you know just won't shut the fuck up from the minute. He hits the screens. Like Oh this looks like it are up. I'm at at and sure enough Says he's starting to mop mop the blood around the lower half of the body Sullivan grabs the mob. Lipsett around and just shoves it down this guy's throat and I don't mean just like tugged oppressor. He's like trying to shove this whole mop in this man's body he's jamming a jamming a jamming ultimately kills him. Though sudden Murphy shows up and just beat Sullivan down. Yes yeah yeah. And that was the point in the movie where I for sure for pretty sure it was like. I think his name is Sullivan. Left when at the senior notes got it down like eighty six percent sure. Yeah that is what my note says. Anau Sullivan's with the warden Hussein. He's been naughty there's a severed head. Maybe or he's like through to. I don't know who we had to go back. Rarely yeah do do we stop a film and we're watching it and go back. But I had to know wh his I had just looked up and turns out. The scene wasn't any longer than when I had caught. I thought I had missed something real quick. Yeah and so it looks. It looks to be Sammy I guess. Yeah and there's all this shit and then there's this head just as head and it's talking and it's bleeding from the neck and he's complaining about something right so we stopped and went back and I'm like. Oh Yeah it's a fucking head that's talking. Yeah Sorry go ahead. Yeah so the head is mumbling and gets wheeled away. And then the the word in starts fucking with solvents toes. Yes which is apparently a trigger for Sullivan. Yes because his mom would like beat his feet. Yes And so it's as real bad for him and he stabs him in the in the foot between the toes of stabbed him in the to- oh. I thought he said which piggy is it going to be needed so and just look like it took like a nutcracker or apparently cracking the to- cracking the big toe. Yeah that's I know you don't like your feet messed with idol. Like I don't like socks. I don't like wearing anything because it but that about fucking drove me nuts. 'cause I'm like what is he going to do this tones with us Yeah then he lifts something up like a pick or something stabs. It goes way down and I am just put some music on and and the guards take Sullivan back to his self. Moving moving on so Sullivan is babbling to his mother. I would too after took out nutcracker to my show then stabbed me in a little toe. Jesus those babbling into his mother. Eski not shut the doors at least hallucinating at this point. Like she's a cell with them. let me get the next day and Murphy drops off some food on the floor Just out of of Sullivan's reach then. He sits on the floor and says he had a chance to read. Sullivan's file starts talking to him about his family and how they were killed the guard. Murphy's family was killed. Oh Yeah Yeah Murphy asks if the inmate killed those kids in the massacre Sullivan Says No. And then we pan away to The inmate across the way coup for I swear to God we didn't go back and look because I'm just I'm just going go with it. But it looked like he was eating the top half of the fucking body that was left. I mean maybe it certainly looked like it wasn't that Pan slops Shit they were given hey he looked like he was now like a literally a beef shoulder man shoulder. Yeah inmates shoulder yeah. The pants left stuff for reference. Looks at best like maybe beans on bread. Maybe that's the more. Appetizing does not look good. No no no no. It doesn't look like a big roast arm. No no no and I honestly. I probably would've ate the arm as well So we paying back and Murphy is is gone and Sullivan is still talking to him. Nice arts calling him so it kind of gives you it was kind of a weird thing was murphy there right. I'm had to eventually brought food right but I liked. How and it wasn't a cut. It was just a quick little pan right and then a slow pan bag and Murphy's gone and it really helped establish where Sullivan's mind is. He was just talking to his father and mother right before he passed out from toe. Pain had to be the toe pain. You gotTa Okay and then You know like I say starts calling his name it everyone get off motto. Iv will move these stools further refined to fifteen foot cables. I could I could be in the other room so at this point. I just noted that every one of these inmates is completely fucked up with with psychosis and mental issues. We can't even begin to put a finger on like far beyond whatever it was that. Put them on death row right. Yeah there's a sameness to the manic level of manic that they are but everyone's got their own little thing we got screamer. We got a gambler you know. And then we got Sullivan. Who We're not even really sure what what his full bag is. Yuccas needs loosening bitch and Then all of a sudden we hear the warden Announcing that one of the inmates have has worn out their welcome. It's crazy yeah crazy guy. Yeah yeah the one who caused bones to get cut in half of bad ass behavior. And he's asking what kind of death it should be Nelson. The guards come for crazy He's not having it. He's now taken to the warden's workshop that's what I'm calling it. The warns workshop Ordinance there with his garbage on the whole donald loves is. He's dressed to go and tells him it's the big day very exciting starts to strangle the inmate. Then he stops and he tells the inmate that he deserves so much more and then he pushes him down on his knees goes and Starts Sa- music and then he backs out of the room and then the inmate is alone for a moment and then Murphy and four guards come in. It doesn't take a genius to figure out what's on the menu for what's going to happen next and to be fair for those of you if you haven't listened to the interview with Kyle Stop Right now. Go listen to it. Otherwise fucking fall for listening because Kyle said that Roddy when they were doing the scene that there were off camera looked over at Kyle and said people are going to be talking about this for a long time and he was right. This was it turns into a train. Being run on the Guy Prison rape scene by guards. Murphy goes lasts and he does. Is he takes off. His Tie gags the inmate. And then he uses his baton to sodomize him and the inmate dies during this process. Yeah and then he takes his tie wipes off his baton sticks it back in his belt and just walks out. Yes yeah yeah pretty rough seen it is rough and I I've watched yeah is didn't pull strings and if you think is might have been a little too gentle you can watch American me with Edward James Olmos based on true story of gangs being run out of Prison Hispanic gangs He was a a huge gangly. Came guys the the characters name but there was a lot of guests who's in charge scenes and that shit was hard you know. Yeah this matches that so while this is all going on. Yeah it's being broadcast over the PA system. Yeah and Sullivan can hear it. And he's upset by it. You know Understandably Right Yeah and They're they're at this point. I need this note. They're going through these inmates pretty fast. I don't feel like they replenish inmates on death. Row at the rate that they're going through them in. This movie doesn't seem like a sustainable way to rent a prison. No really well. We lost bones. We've got three dead so far. Sammy was was you know. Yeah without ceremony taken from US yes. He's just his. You know his head might still be alive somewhere. I just don't want to interrupt again but cadmium I really was hoping we get to the bottom of this head thing because at my thought was awarded the super fucked up as we can clearly clearly seem rather it was gonna be some weird shit going on like. He's like he took his. You know Dr Bob's chemistry kit for kids to like the next level. And that's what he was doing. But now you helping for like a human centipede type thing not at all. I know I know I love those movies. Do you do do you. Awful one was was final. Yeah but in two was weird. Three was kind of wearing the prison one. Yeah that I thought it was funny. might have been Just born anyway. I'm sorry any who I think Sullivan might be the only one left in the prison at this point an unethical. It seems like it for sure. Yeah and the guards are coming in to talk to him. And he says that they're monsters and they're like yeah. Sure Bulky Sully Many hallucinates his mother again She's talking to pretty viciously and she's in the prison with him yelling at him and at this point I was like I'm not super sure that he didn't kill those kids. He's been maintaining his innocence. So far but at this point. I'm like yeah. Maybe HE DID. He did it fairly calls his his who he is into question. Well his sanity is definitely in question. Well right but you know with that comes. I don't know who is the nation's don't lie about who you are. I don't think anyone has that kind of control right So we get another flashback. There's two kids. Parents are fighting one of them's Sullivan And the mother is the woman he was just loosening so we can tie that in all the well and the the it's weird argument was really weird. It was weird That note it myself but I did just sticking in my head. That's she's arguing. Because the dad is going off to work yes and we never did never goes. We never get a you know. What is her clearly. She doesn't matter because she's bad. Shit fucking crazy every letter of that. That term applies and so anyway because of that I guess there were beatings. Yeah because dad went to work so now we have a man in a shirt and tie sitting at a desk. And he's just sitting there slogan a cigarette with the thousand yard stare. Like this is my job. Dick Tock Tick Tock Tick Tock and We find out. It's the warden. I figure that right away. 'cause his Chin oh I wasn't paying attention was drastically different. It without his goggles. Gloves HIS APRON. In his bloody tire he looked a little you know. He has a distinctive Chin. And I was like warden. You're attuned person. I noticed Chins cracks me up because we'll be. I know who that guy is. He was in that one movie will be played the so and so and snap ed the actress name but look at the Chin Chin. It's him it's the Chin so anyway the phone rings and it's the governor news doesn't seem to be good because he looks kind of pissy about it and he hangs up pulls out a file on the stamper very slowly like he doesn't WanNa right Denied yeah and I don't know what he stamped because maybe on a big screen and this is a thing with movies and I'd just going to call it out now and it's not a Ding right. We've seen a lot of movies and theater. And then we see him on on. You know fifty inch television fifty five inch television and still too small to make if we hadn't seen it before we would know what the little details are on things like this like the paperwork right and it's funny because I'm looking at it and clearly they they spend something. Somebody designed this right. This is production. Prop stuff these these files and stuff. It looked really good what I could see but because of the way the shot is everything on a large screen would be just big enough to read and then on TV. You're fucked. You're done you know I couldn't get all of what it was but I put together an appeal or stay request for a stay. Yeah you know. He was wasn't pleased right. Yeah so actually. At this point I did question if he was a warden thought well seems out of character. Well it's well that in wouldn't win the lawyer get this kind of call but I guess the one would stamp the paper so that was my little my little thing but I resolved myself that it was the word it made sense because we haven't seen a lawyer. I genuinely don't know how all of that work so I just take it at face value. Okay and the whole thing was just not happy undertones at all. Yeah which was interesting. 'cause IT seemed in my mind I was like. Why is he upset about this? Seems like he gets to kill him now right. That would make him happy. Well should and it got me. Kinda thinking a little bit. But I didn't WanNa you know like fade out of the movie but just it gave me a quick thing like Oh. Is this going to be one of those deals where he's compelled to? You know punish but you know he'd be like Oh you know. He was given a chance kind of thing. He doesn't he doesn't want to do this kind of thing. You know what I mean like. This isn't he's not like Jason and Freddy and he just outlaw right right But I know abandoned that because clearly digging shit he does. Maybe you're a little deeper than I am because my my thought initially was like well. Maybe he's not pleased. Because Sullivan's only prisoner. He has left and then he won't have anymore. Play twice the only way you or anyone can get into the full depth of what goes on in my head during these would be to sit me in just a little sound booth by myself with the movie playing with headphones and record me and just out and just let me and I can't even talk fast enough to cover the show. That goes through my head. I sup- realized. You know this. You know you. Nothing is ever simple and straightforward. Okay back to the movie. The movie in Sullivan sell the warden comes in. And he is notably not wearing his goggles and stuff. He still in his suit and tie in in regular glasses. You're actually looking like a regular dude and only regular looking dude in this whole mess He brings a cup of water to Sullivan. And he's being like pretty tender with them and he gives them the news that the governor denied stay and Sullivan has thirty six hours left to live. Yeah I wrote. I think you're correct thirty six hours. Wow Yeah Emma on the word is back in his office. And He's thinking Murphy and he wants Murphy to make sure that Sullivan Eat. Because he hasn't been eating right So back to Sullivan Sal. Murphy brings him some food. And Sullivan ignores him and Murphy's like Come on man like I gotta eat you know. Lose my job over. An inmate right Murphy eventually goes into the SAL and he tries to intimidate Sullivan into eating and Sullivan. Just isn't having it. No as Murphy closes the door and pulls out his baton Sullivan just fucking leaps to life and attacks him and it looks like He. He grabs his balls. Yep and it must shot. It's a nut shot while was just a punch. It looked like he had those fuckers hostage. Who Because Murphy? I mean anyone who knows Roddy Piper right even years after being out of wrestling. He's he's a big Guy Right he might. He might not have still been ripped but as a human being. He's an impressive for you know. And and The character of Sullivan is not now so anyway. He's got him by the jewels and it's clearly disabling him and Then he's all gets him into a chokehold. Yes they've got him like a nice good wrestling chokehold. The kind that can go wrong really quick and the guards in the wardner outside and they tell him to stop. And the hold goes wrong. 'cause Sullivan snaps. Murphy's neck yes and they go in one of the guards our own kyle. Hester is yelling at the warden saying that. It's the warden that caused this and and Kyle is just all broken up over. Murphy's death yeah you know. 'cause I guess Murphy. The guards were really weird. I got the sense of Kyle's character was really into him and respected him clearly. Yeah the others were just kind of like he's the boss and they're upset over it but you know like the one guy. The one guard looked like he was gonNA shit himself episodes. I shouldn't be here man. Rain Garden the general population. Yeah yeah and we get another flashback. it's an ice cream truck and Sullivan's in it and he's trying to lure a child into the ice cream truck and I was like okay. I sure now none innocent right. And we both noted this at the same time and coincidentally we both skipped over all the other ice cream truck references because all of his flashbacks and shit with his mom right. They always then they either start out real quick or end real quick without you know the scenes this system. That's happening this thing. That thing. This thing that thing in several of them there was an ice cream truck that I didn't think anything of it. I thought well this is probably another chapter in his life. Some ice cream guy pulled him in. The truck bent him over. The you know scooping table and that just added to you. Know the the message's Sullivan you know. Couldn't tell his mom or whatever but this was the first straight seen. I didn't catch any of those references to the Ice Cream. Truck really really. Oh Man I had written down a couple of times and I thought no. I'm just GonNa you know while I was watching took that out because as I don't need to get into all this backstory bullshit you know because I thought it was part of of little sullies backstory. Yeah but then. Yeah when they show Sullivan Lane out of the truck. The ice cream truck saw. Yeah we caught it at the same time so anyway after that we're back in the warden's office to the guards are venting about Murphy's death rightfully so yeah Wardens going on about having fled to a different state having to change his name. It was really Kinda gassing people in my office so I'm just GonNa Start thought you know and I was like is it because you keep torturing all the prisoners on death row and every like we'll that was my thing that I like so you've been at this for a long time and now we're GONNA get some reveal or something. No the reveal is the warden is Sullivan's brother his older brother. Yes and he changed his name and moved a different state after the massacre yes and somehow made his way back to be. The warden of the prison brother ended up in So yeah the Flashback now takes us to when they were kids now. We see a kind of from his perspective. Their mom is renting. She's calling for the kids and just having a fit. And then we see Sullivan Walk. Or She's Beijing and screaming. Ill sudden does blood from under her diaphragm. And then we sullivan behind her with a big fucking knife stabbed search. Jump IN. Then the warden. His older brother we camera moves and we see him standing in the doorway. Did you hit it? I hit my mic okay. I told you he didn't do it right. You just tapped it. Here's we'll know tapped it. Go on you didn't do all right. So he saw this and being the older brother he he took charge. Yeah right so the next thing we see is they cutting cutting her body up in the bathtub. Why not as kids are want to do bright In another office one of the guards is calling the governor and then we cut to another guard could harassing Sullivan. And then we're back to the warden's office and the phone rings. It's the governor and suddenly the guards are all called to the warden's office and sees. The governor has removed the warden from the execution kids. The one guard. Call Them Alvarez head so now he puts one of the other guards in charge of it and then he goes off to see Sullivan. He saying goodbye Sullivan starts to lay into him. How he ignored their mother hitting him pushing him downstairs. Everything and running off to join the army and They they haven't exchange basically with an ending with the ward and putting his hand on Sullivan's head smiling and saying my brother died a long time ago and then he leaves I man that was harsh. They're supposed to be a moment between you two. You clearly have done all this stuff and then you Balkam with words like that. Holy Shit you know But they did have. A flashback of several shots of the warden as the older brother Like hiding in the closet while the he's getting beaten or you know yeah coming up and then seeing the beating happening sneaking away so there was some sort of guilt there. Maybe that's why he helps with the body and stuff and then ran off to join the army because you know brothers of nutbag well you know So the guards bringing a priest to read Sullivan his last rites and he just kicks the priest out. Never fuck off yeah Then the guards bring him down the hallway. They're bringing him to you. Know his execution Sullivan starts crying. He gets his very long hair. Cut Off. Yeah he's got hair well puppies long as mine and pathogen older. Maybe it wasn't as long as mine. Yours is really long. Oh his was a little frizzy. Hair is a shorter. Well it'd be longer but your brain at a love it you say that out loud on our podcast. Ucare heavily braids. My hair all the time. Sometimes she's just too into it though as or check this stuff. You put up with sweet Then he flashes back again to when he was arrested and the guy cutting his hair notices. The scissors are missing from the table. Right what will it's your turn main? I can read it for you. Just give a staredown. So yeah as the guard notices at he attacks Sullivan tax. The guard Gets the shotgun from his brother. Who's WHO's there in the execution watching but not controlling right. Yeah well I guess that's pretty loose. Maybe the governor wasn't specific enough in. Maybe you're in charge of the execution. Yeah I guess that means you can still go right and it's it's execution by electric chair. Which is why. They're cutting his hair to shave his beard. And everything's thinking Chinstrap and the whole deal but anyway His shotgun from his brother. And then he has kyle unlock his handcuffs. And then he blasts. And that's IT Kyle. History has no more this blast him in the chest and puts them on the floor. Alarm goes off. Guard comes get shot right away and then the warden is cowering on the floor in another flashback. of the warden as a kid hiding as another ass kicking is getting going on to Sullivan by their mother. Yeah So Sullivan straps the warden into the chair. And as the word in his saying that he'll tell the truth presumably about what happened with their mother and well. Yeah the beatings and whatever. I don't know maybe everything that happened in prison to write that. He killed all the other inmates onto pick. Yeah Jesus no small thing that he could be talking about Sullivan turns on the switch and then shoots himself. Yeah put the gunners Channon ca pam yeah and then the warden is is is just frying. Yup Camera Shows Sullivan's face in the foreground on the floor or angled up and we see in the background. The warden was a little filming at the mouth. And he's he's getting his and then go to a black screen and then we get the haunting voice of the mother. Never let you boys go roll credits. Yeah that folks was the chair. Yes Gritty Rail Gritty Bloody Yeah if you are a horror fan Angie like blood. You're not like spooky. You know who that scared me but you wanNA see some shit. This will do it for you. Yes it got it for us. Some stuff to get into there is some stuff to get into. The effects were awesome. Were this is that kind of thing and I was watching this. I was thinking of talking with Hilton about Zombie with a shotgun. You know the what he wanted for effects and what he could realistically afford. We're so far apart and at one point and the last thing they did was with Aaron in Zombie makeup. That was the last scene. They shot the first scene in the movie because he managed to talk in effects guy down in price to get that far. Well yeah which was well worth it so I'm thinking now because I was wondering what the budget was. I wasn't thinking it was going to be massive because when Kyle was talking about it the troubles they had finding locations and right selection and this was very like very few locations. Not a lot of actors. Right you know is pretty minimal. Yeah they did really well. The shit the warden was doing. I mean that was full on you know they. They spent a good chunk on those effects As well as like location you know sats to get things set up the props and decorations and stuff but it was it was it was satisfying near very impressive effects and they. They worked really well with the style that the movie was shot in. Yes yeah the art house Grind House kind of thing in. It's one of those things where you know there's a lot of the so many B movies A. B. Horror Movies. That reanimator comes to mind. Okay so well just in the you know the guy fucking with bodies. That's what I honestly thought that's kind of where we were going to go with the the warden as we were going to you know he's got his agenda. There's a there's a reason to it. That's why there was a fucking severed head guy this data just because he liked cutting up bodies if even yeah. I guess I guess cutting up mom gave him a thing right. Yeah so but The whole thing with that when I think of reanimated also I think of the the copious amounts of cartoonish amounts see. There's the divider right. Reanimator is technically a horror movie. Sometimes they classified as horror comedy. I don't think it meant to be funny well. There were some jokes in it. There were some jokes not enough to think to dub it a comedy. It was supposed to be it was supposed to be Hor. No the biggest moments of comedy were between the jokes. So you know I love that. Movie I know is awesome but it does have. Its like all the Japanese horror movies that we watched you know Like Battle Royale. Oh yeah we're someone's like arm gets cut off and it's literally just a fountain machine-gun Girl could literally see that it's like three hundred PSI. Yes theme going through those tubes spring the stuff out of my tease strikes house. You don't paint a house with a sprayer with as much pressure as fucking crazy right. It's whitewash or power-wash it's hilarious. This wasn't that now it in fact it it works like you said for the kind of movie it was because it did have that. Grind House feel to it. Yeah and I think at and again we'd have to talk to kyle more or you know maybe even Chad. Yeah you know on on the on what was the. What were they able to do this on purpose? That a happy accident that this is all we can afford but it fits the aesthetic so well it. You know it's like Nice. I don't know it's not like these effects looked cheap. I guess I don't want to get that message out. Now they were. They were like they were movie realism. You know mean I liked him. I thought they were really good. Oh yeah no that fucking tow seen did. Did I keep you up at night? That unsettling you did did by FICO under the covers. Will you know? Sh- it's don't touch when I watch movies where there's Needles lot of needles. I don't even have a phobia of needles. Have any problem getting shots or like getting blood drawn or anything but when there is needles and movies it really unsettles me the thing that unsettles me. I can watch anything going on in a film toes. Bugs me because I'm so at just get away from my feet but I do have a thing with is that will fuck me up a die. Hard to yeah. There's a scene where they're On the airfield and he's threatening with like a Kim over with a knife era icicle but it was coming right down to the I is die hard to die. Scary can move scary right action films. I actually close my eyes when I saw that in the theater. 'cause I cannot stand shit. Being done to is her and growing up. I was never like that but there was a time in in my life. I Made Hammers and working with metal. I had a Red Hot piece of metal fly up and hit at the right angle bounced under my safety goggles. Good thing I was wearing them because it bounced off. It bounced up inside. Hit the Goggle and then seared itself into my eye and it just anytime after that just the memory of. I don't know folks. Have you ever had your I drilled. They don't put you down. Put your head in a brace and I'll never forget this too because the doctor's like okay keep your eyes steady. Who like no problem man? And you're trying to not reach up and you know. Scratch it 'cause on the here's here's the best thing it happened at work and work made me drive to the fucking doctor's office and then. I had to wait for it to open his there. Were no Lennox. Okay right and I knew fell into the emergency room. They referred me to a clinic. That's how it worked in that area. I'm not gonNA say where but it was fucked up so as I'm driving and every time I blink I could feel at cutting the inside of my eyelid. Yeah it was a it wasn't like a flak it was a big thing. I was literally millimeters from you. Know blinded losing by so ever since then I can't do. I hate eyelashes fucking eyelashes the worst evolution. They don't do shit but getting your is all day long and over here thinking like every other day. I'm like you know I wonder how much liesake is like. It'd be Kinda cool that I wouldn't have your glasses which is literally like lasers in your eyes. I Know Discussion I. And that's why I have like thirty pairs of reading glasses at different powers so I can see different distances because there is no fucking way. You're getting me to open my eyes up to a laser. No Way I'll I'm considering it. Well I will sit in. Hold your hand and praise you but I will not look at you or what's going on but you know growing up. I grew up in a pretty rural area. Yeah and I knew two kids who shot this shot themselves in the eyes with BB gun. God Yeah like a Christmas story two of them and so that gives you an idea of how rural right in both of them. They couldn't get the the ball bearing removed from there. I so they could like press on their lead and you could see the little ball under the skin move man. No no no no no no. No one of them had a glass eye though okay. They couldn't take the bear with glass is variety of things. One Guy got got his. I literally put out by a fork. He was in the army. This is when I was teaching and he was one of the teachers aides and he just he liked talking about it but yeah he was he was in the army and he just graduated basic he hadn't been assigned so he was kind of intermission thing and they were just in the Mess Hall and he sat down and he put silverware and stuff down and I don't know what he says. For some reason it was turned the fork was facing him handle how and he set his drink down and it caught it in somehow flipped up and he went to grab it. He ended up getting behind it and shoving the fork in his eye. That's messed up man. And then he had to sit and run all the way across the compound it with this forking slugging daily or do I pull it out and pirates of the Caribbean hadn't come out yet but when I saw Vian Oh my God reminded me of him so anyway. All right look for the phobias down. I did it. I did it properly this time. I really hit last time to properly when we before we started okay So the blood was good. One thing I wanted to talk about was the tone visually. We've seen some movies recently that we're not doing the episode on this stuff that we watch for our own edification says faction or disappointment as it may be and one of the things that that budget no budget. Low budget films. Fuck UP ON. The most is not paying attention to the lighting for tone now talking about your in a night scene and you got a light it as best as you can. If you can't you can't right. That's not what I'm talking about. We we watched a couple movies from shot. Two shots fucking bright. Then it's Kinda bluish and that it's damn and the same room during the same fucking room angles or they go into a different room. And it's different Scrape my high. You didn't know descriptive things going for my my lip balm anyway This was solid so clearly Chad knew what he was doing. Yes right the visual tone from the cells to the warden's workshop now. His office was different. That was bright. Had Window Khuzestan above ground right well. That's the office that you bring people into right. So this is like the administration portion of the prison which should be well lit and cooling looking But yeah this cell area and DIM DINGY GRITTY. And it really for me. Claustrophobic is not the word I WANNA use. But it made me feel really uncomfortable being in that space like it wasn't big enough because all the darkness as if I were here it wouldn't be like the walls were closing in around me. I'd be fucked up over the fact that there's like I I can't see enough. Can we get a light in here? Yeah others too many dark corners like everywhere you go and it was actually kind of amazing. Every shot had that same level of darkness where it's Alec. They just turned the fucking camera around and left the lights. Were they were as we've seen that right and it's you know lights behind the camera very different looking than the lights set up in front of it so only at it was very even the whole way through. Yes they made it. I well made it more enjoyable being uncomfortable. Yeah in in the prisoner situation. Yeah happy acting was really really good. It was and Should should have been well. Yeah because this isn't you know. Let's let's make movie okay. You know They they they picked the right people and again. I don't know we could talk more with Kyle Chad or somebody which we're going to get onto but You know where their connections right? You know Because we just saw a movie on on prime video what we didn't watch it. I added to the watchlist. Say What it is in case bestowed on a lot of people. It's got a lot of people in it and it's one of those things where you can tell this is sort of a a favor frontal. Brad Pitt thing. You know you know how to Cup coffee. You can tell he did it because they thought it'd be fun. Yeah I'll I'll give you half three quarters of a day of my life to you. Know thirty seconds on film is what they're GONNA get out of it right because you know that takes fucking Aberdeen ought to be on set at seven and then they finally hardest you up shoot at three and you know by six. Pm maybe you can go home. And for his teeny tiny seen. That's how it works. Well it's like yeah. I really like movies like that because the performances you get in those movies are always really really good. The are I call them relaxed. They are okay It's like the the Shakespeare movie the Jazz Sweden recently did. I can't remember the name of that one what to do about nothing. Yeah much ado where he just call up a bunches buddies and ORLA was like come to my house this weekend. We're going to make a movie went through his rolodex Fi firefly Angel Dollhouse. Da well there. Yeah the exit was a couple of them but ultimately yeah. I've fucked the casting director. Just GonNa go through all these. I'll get enough people do and they do and when I relaxed. I don't mean like not professional right but again there's something about an indie filmmakers. Know this there's something about whether you're an actor or director. Whatever you don't have to worry about the studios expectations right. I think of Brad Pitt's not even thirty seconds. It was what five seven seconds sunscreen when he's getting electrocuted in in deadball Not a speaking line but clearly he wasn't pouring as much into that As a structured performance as say like a river runs through it where he's sharing the screen with Robert Redford was also directing. And you know from right. Yeah all your brain has got to be thinking as better fucking be bringing it. This is Robert Redford well. And this is a movie that clearly wants to be on the mantle of nominees. Your best everything. Well you know if you if you're in a movie that you know as an Oscar hopeful. That's that's a stressful situation. But this actually reminds me of a tip that I WANNA put out there for when you're filmmaking and stuff before you do a senior always do kind of a rehearsal of the scene right right well. You should write if you don't film the rehearsals of the scene. Yes because I mean not every time but you have nothing to lose by just using up a little bit of your your data card by filming it But sometimes those rehearsals are going to be better than the takes that you do afterwards. Yes because it's it's a lot more relaxed. It's lot you know it's the it is the first take before the first take. Yes so yeah. We'll tip well and You also can get some unexpected things out of it. Yeah you know that might work in a lot of ad-lib stuff in early films was taken out of okay places. Let's run this through and they didn't slate it right because it wasn't seen it was you know. Let's walk the suicide over one gun. Make sure we got. The marks of the director can make sure everyone understood his instructions. The important part is to find your mark. They actors need to be in place for the camera. Ray Cameramen aren't supposed to go fuck and hunting for you. Know you're told where you need to be better fucking be their eight bit on how to use it. You know. We've seen so many films lately. Where no you know what? I don't care who you are. I don't WanNa stare at your fucking ass in torso while you're checking the mail or toasting bread or some shit that is that is that is a Piss poor choice on the director. Nobody wants to fuck and see that. That's not interesting. That's not why you're filming this. Find a fucking angle and show me the actor not half of his ass up to his shoulder blades. And just standing there and I'm thinking Oh so we're gonNA WE'RE GONNA. We're GONNA do this in real time. We'RE GONNA go to level four on the toast. Yea but anyway so with that the actors will hit the volume it places but sometimes they just they just go off with the lines and the reactions and that might make for a better seen right then the one that you catch after you slate it right right. Yeah and even if even if you don't get that kind of little like Improv e Gem it's GonNa be a much more natural performance right and it may not bleed anything right but you know like we said nobody. Nobody's doing independent film anymore on film well unless they're doing it as like a gimmicky thing. We'll in already thing RC. But it's not cost effective if you have one hundred fifty thousand dollars. You'RE NOT GONNA go out and invest in a film camera. Enrolls until you're just not because first of all you're GONNA use at least half that in development right and you're gonNA will that's additional two. Yeah you can go out and buy fifteen hundred hours worth of recording media in St cards right right rather than less than a hundred bucks. Yeah than than two hundred minutes worth of film You can't fuck with yes you know. And that's where some of the old movies Not Necessarily Indie. But they'll all be studio. Yeah the horror movies. We poke fun and we have great time with them. But that's the thing we're going to watch that remembering. The Guy had like thirty five hundred feet of film and that was it. He had a US what he had so action pro cut. We think it doesn't matter. We got something on film is going to have to fucking do all right all this shit down and move on and they can't go back. There's no money to buy. The extra film paid for the debate all that. So that's why we have campy cheesy B movies especially the horror stuff his. If something's going to go wrong with the prop it's going to be in a horror movie. Oh yeah ask. That's where all the prop stiff goes wrong but the performances in the chair were they were that kind of there. Were that like natural. You know The work force. Yeah Roddy did a super job with Murphy as just this shell of a man. He's got his job. This is his job. That's his life. His family was killed by a slasher murderer. You know thing wasn't like a car accident or anything so you can see after that bid then you get the whole shell of Roddy Murphy. And he did it so well he did you know and and again it's a shame he's gone because he was really good. Yeah I mean all those bit sons on. It's always sunny. Oh my God he you know a comedy standpoint. Jesus Christ as their some of my favorite bits in the whole show. I know he's can best. Oh Man but yeah they all the performances were like genuine. Yes that's what I mean by relaxed in that they're not really trying to over emphasize the evil the maniacal you know every inmate. Oh the other inmate. Because Sullivan wasn't alone. Because the guy that was eating the shoulder he never got picked off. I called him giggles in my head because he was the one who he he would sit in the bag. That was crazy. No crazy would cackle and scream and do all kinds of stuff. Giggles was little more subdued. He was just kind of like. Oh that's why I was fucking eat guy. He's he's like the character in a movie. Who just Kinda like comes in slightly into frame. Pick something up and then goes out of frame kneeling. What's his fucking deal. Oh he's eaten the inmate okay. Yeah he didn't have a whole lot of screen time. Okay but yeah you could hear him because after a crazy was gone. There was still here here and there okay. Did we watch the same MPG? Yeah of course okay story I. This is where it works for me where you have a current situation and then we get fed stuff right. You know the background of backstory of Sullivan and it made sense. I was worried when it started that. I'd be pissed off. He know how I am about backstory. Nine at attendant doesn't serve Shit right right. It's just burn up fucking minutes to meet something. Some run time requirement for festival or some Horse Shit and but this actually worked because not only do we get to learn about Sullivan but it kind of like you said it brought into question is was he culpable right you know. Is this just? I Dunno stirred off with him maintaining his innocence. And you go on the presumption that he's innocent until you learn. Otherwise yes but the thing then. I guess that brought it about was the fast nature of some of those flashbacks this scene. That seemed this thing doesn't happen but one two three four five six right like one second of peace. I liked that because it it fed into so okay. What is the fucking story with this guy? Is this him being mental right right is he? That fucked up. Because that's how visually that's the only way you can show it. I mean everything of everything from hitchcock. Whatever though some weird camera angle stretching on the left right all these distortions and or just fast cots and One of the things that that I'd loved its horror movie but fear and loathing. Oh my Gosh Right. The movie forever. Well the best the best visual communication of just how fucked up these guys were on drugs. Yes was Benicio Del. Toro's the where he's had the cuts of him just not even really talking just about the about different angles different angle different angle and you know that right watching that as homework. Good Yeah and you can see in Johnny Depp's character. Hunter is our role is just a trying to put it together and just can't well and yeah and it's not that way every time his rash different stuff anyway coming back because I want to stop talking about a movie that we're not talking about the The very nature of all those flashbacks was was rear. Ended up being very soothing to me in terms of you know it works so well because I am trying to figure out is you know. Are we going to get a hitchcock in twist right? Essien it and we kinda did we got the ice cream truck. Yeah because before I'm passing on like is contract that I'm not GonNa get into the fucking minute of these little tidbits it's and then all of a sudden all my God. It was important. So that's the ice cream truck. It's not little Sullivan standing. Outside of it. It's just a kid. I remember all those now. Yeah you're right and it happens so fast. Yeah also. I was a kid with dark hair. And the flashbacks are in black and white. Mostly the ice cream truck stop was in was kind of black and white. Yeah or like a dark hair say Pia. Yeah it was. It was way off color so just a kid with dark hair so I was thinking well again Sullivan. Got You know brutalized by the ice cream. Man as a kid right. That's why they're not getting into it like okay. That's fair but no come to find out. it's his mental state. Who's doing the brutal Eisen? He's looking nice cream guy And then you know all comes together and he steps out of that office and sees me Sir. You're like home alone. He just killed all those kids and these are the parents outside waiting to pick up their kids hockey. It happened so quick in it happened on the tail. End of a flashback. Yes and that's was that to me was was really well done. Not having seen the graphic novel. I can't speak adaptation because that's difficult shit. Let's say that. Yeah trying to go from film format too graphic novel or vice versa is fucking hard. Well let's give props for that because we've done adaptations. Yes and there's a it's it's like walking a tightrope trying to stay true to the original material and yet gene. Djing it so that it is right rights for the medium that your cling it into right. Well I'M GONNA go ahead and guess that they were able to do it very closely. Yeah I see the two things one. The writer was the editor. Well Yeah but Go back to Zombie with a shotgun. Hilton did this as a web series and was able to take that blow it up into a movie and now they've had a comic graphic novel right going. I don't know what episode there or what volume they're on but anyway Bam right so again say anything. You're in control of everything. Then you can just do it the way you want. You have to make sacrifices because not everything translates right right so. I don't know what didn't translate from the graphic novel to film because I haven't we haven't read the graphic novel right but from what I saw. It couldn't have been much didn't make it yet. Seemed to know you know. Let me May. I don't know maybe they flushed out the back story a little bit more meaty but it seemed to be cohesive enough that knowing that it came from a graphic novel. You know like wow props fan. 'cause clearly this should has been thought about well. Yeah and you know. Here's another tip speaking of adaptations if you know someone or you have an in with someone who has an ip they. You can adapt that they'll allow you to do and they have a built in audience. There's no reason for you not to try. No and and here's So for those of you who haven't ventured into this. This is what's involved basically. It's pretty simple but super complicated. Well Okay so. We have a pilot. Several episodes right and started novel. Izing that and sort of doing a graphic novel you know writing it. Yeah okay. So here's the problem. All through those formats are so fantastically different. You can't just be like oh cut and paste cut and paste. Couldn't pay fucking I did one. It's just a no 'cause the script right for every page of script is like five pages a novel. Yep because you've gotTa have all the visual shit that takes places in that one minute of screen. Time GonNa take you several pages to lay out the visuals in the tone in the feeling all of this and then you have the cerebral stuff. The thoughts that the characters are thinking. But you can't show through the actor right and then the aids in the bringing things about I mean you have to take you know a script. That's one hundred. Twenty pages is two hours of and that turned twenty pages comes from a novel usually between four and six hundred pages something like that you know and well anything smaller is usually condense down or Peter Jackson style fooled way out with with Shit. That never was anyway. When you have a novel you've gotTa Cut all that shit out and you have. It relies solely on dialogue and a couple of lines of action. So that people know what's going on and then hoping the people you're working with key communicate the rest of it. So set design in the director can catch the tone. And then you take those fucking things then. You had a graphic novel. Now you've got well. Let's see I've got three minutes of dialogue onscreen right three solid pages of these people going back and forth over this problem. Yep All right now. That three minutes is probably going to be nine pages in a graphic novel. Nobody wants that Shit. Nope you got to condense that down to about a third you need to you. Need to with static images static action and you know not not a lot of writing. Because it's a graphic novel the images need to take up most of the parade each frame. Yeah how many frames you have on on each page. But it's fucking hard because she's gotta go shits gotTa go. Shits gotta go. You know you've gotTA CUT STUFF. You gotta add stuff going back and forth So if you are in any of these mediums right so especially like were you said if someone has an IP yeah right so they have a friend who has or know somebody like. Oh Man I'd love to turn that into a film if you're the owner of the Ip so let's say you're graphic novel or a novelist okay. It's real simple Sega's say I want On being on the the writing process k The screenplay and Executive Producer. Yup May. That's the bottom line is executive producer. We've talked about this With Hilton and I laughed about it. You know his brother is the director. We're we're Han. Solo were Luke skywalker. Here the director in that. Dia In that Economy no not that dynamic in dynamic the director is God. Yeah well you can be fucking Hans Solo and you can be Luke Skywalker and guess what I just fired. Both your asses Gonna. Bring our sisters in and Funky both executive producer though can do that. Murphy Ball grab to Director. So here's here's how it's going to happen. What you've just done is no good and we're GONNA fix it. The that's the power of producing. Nobody knows what else they do. Cause some producers I wouldn't even in the countryman. Well it's purposefully vague title. It is but if you own the shit that they're working with in your executive producer you can you know. Cut It no. We're not going that route. That's not even in the fucking thing. It's a secondary it you know nothing so anyway. Hopefully you'll never have to do that. Because that's the whole point of getting into these arrangements as you with people who will work together. Well fifty fifty as it happens sometimes. A dozen If you're a director right you know you got your director and you have something and you want to convert it into something. Well then you have the power use. You're still the owner of the IP. And you okay so I shot this film and I don't want to get it out there yet. I WANNA turn into a graphic novel and kind of announce you know what I mean. He get interest in that medium and then like third issue pay. It's a movie and then bring that out and then you have people from the movie thing. Oh Shit gotTA catch up on this graphic novel and the graphic novel people are. GonNa see this movie. And they're gonNA keep going with graphic novel because it's like well we're GONNA go from here all that stuff. It's great you know you. GotTa Hold Your Power My coffee. You know you gotTa hold your power but you gotta hold it in a in a healthy way. We all this comes down to if you'RE GONNA collaborate with people over Ip right if it's not a healthy relationship walk the fuck away shut the doors. Take the fucking loss start over somewhere else. That's on either side whether you're the IP owner or the person who's doing the WHO's doing the out of L. S. Louis. Yeah don't don't be anybody's bitch. That's the thing okay when you're a mid level George Lucas or Steven Spielberg and you you. You've got some credit but you can't go out and do your own thing when you're getting hired to do jobs all right you've got to play the part of Bitch because the studio will can box you out and it's happened. How many films and we opened up Hollywood insider variety this directors gone this directors. Gone right yeah well you know. That's the thing if if you want to work in that realm and you reach that level you have to talk your ego between your legs and psych. Well I'm making good money. I get to do my thing but yeah I'm GonNa have to kind of be the bitch here and just sort of take it and then try and push as far as I can but not try to burst the balloon. You know 'cause they're directors who did that and have never fucking worked again. They can't even make indie films. Like Hey I know a regimen variety. If I'm even seen having lunch with you I'll never fucking work in this town again. Say so you gotta you gotTa be careful but as an indie. You have the freedom to say. I'll fuck this. Take my ball I'm GonNa and then find someone else to play with you know 'cause it's just reality. I mean you're right. Don't don't take it Malia go it works or dozen that doesn't business nobody's well it is and that's the bottom line you know A lot of times in indie films. What you have is Friends family all working really closely right. And you don't want to step on someone's toes or make your brother-in-law feel like well. Maybe we're going to demo you to like an extra instead of a main character. You know And you know up to a point if those are concessions that you need to make to make your movie heaven and their concessions that you can live with then do that but still remember bottom line you know it is a business. Yes right and it has to work. This isn't this isn't me and my brothers. You know playing karate kids right. Youngest Brother has to be the lame one right. The varsity brothers were. We've been a bunch of films. Basically it was just long fight scene. Well Yeah you know. It isn't that it's were making a product we want to be successful. You know don't you know you people's feelings are GonNa get hurt? Yeah you know and you know anyway. Those are the nightmares as a reality. It can happen and actually does happen. A lot in indie film. Yes because the the I would say the biggest handicap of independent film directors. Everything. All of 'em is everyone is so consumed with that that sense of freedom and lack of borders. You know say I don't. I'm making my movie. The FUCKING WE WANNA make my movie while you've been an actor thinking while I'm GonNa Act and I'm GonNa fucking perform. You know the way I wanNa fuck and perform and then you got the writers and you have to cameraman's like a Lotta fucking frame. This you know the director of all these people you know if the Professionals GonNa come together right and it's not a bad thing to have those feelings but I think sometimes we've heard examples where although senses of freedom are too big. Yes and they can't off in the room so decisions have to make and that's when she gets ugly. That's that's kind of what this all is while it is and you know like this didn't happen in the chair. Obviously they were able to pay their people. But if you're making an indie movie where you can't pay your actors or your crew. The simple fact of the matter is people who are not getting paid for the jobs that they're doing are less likely to respect Like Times shooting times and schedules Y- it's it. It creates a vacuum. That isn't always healthy. You might get really lucky. And a whole crew of professional people who don't care about getting paid who just are passionate about the project and that happens and that's beautiful but realistically well life is so we have day jobs and evening is when we craft are magic after the family bitch. Yeah right so if we were asked to do something they adapt something or you know. Ibm foreign right but not get paid like man. I'm working on this trouble. All would you mind helping out. You know. I'll be we'll be on the credits for screenplay. Sharp Rework this. But if you're GONNA come back on. Us Man. I need this by Thursday. Well Dude Man I got so much shit that I gotta do to earn a paycheck and then I got you know. Spend some time to spend the money from that paycheck so I can fuck and eat sleep and you know not get shit on by the birds and I got a kid. I'm raising. That needs my time. You know. We're Yom don't fucking bark at me because guess what if I turn and walk a fucking way. I'm not out anything in this deal. Anyone that you're not paying is doing you a favor. That's exactly it. Treat them as such. Yeah and we've talked to a few people who've you know it despite takes three years to shoot a fucking movie because you know I mean we do D- weekends every other weekend go. Are you know one player. Can't make it or there's an illness or you know so I mean it just happens. It's fucking our roll with it. So just be respectful and this really comes. The directors and producers be respectful. The people that you're not paying and people who aren't getting paid you you are costing these people money. Yes so time is money will be professional. do what you can. Life happens right. You know simple thing. An oil change scheduled. It's a necessary thing is hard to do. Well Yeah I mean. We've busy schedule because I'm only going to the one mechanic and they're not open weekends and it's not a Jiffy Lube type situation. It's real mechanic. It's your guy it is. Everyone knows how hard it is to find a mechanic trust right. So he's the only guy who's touching my car or him his his people But then daughter got ill and had to cancel you. Know he's cool cool about I mean because we know each other so you know but I feel real bad. Yeah I hold you know a week and a half ahead of time schedule. This is. This is the one fucking day. I could do it because she was off school. And we could get there and get it done and have some time and not worry about something popping up and in if it did there'd be enough time to work out coming to get you and all that stuff gone but that's life you know. I felt bad but if push came to shove in the back of my head what Ben Williams really fun care but I felt bad because I respect the. He allowed that time for me. Yeah and just couldn't happen you know so. Be Respectful of one another. Everybody even if you're getting paid a little bit. Well yeah everyone respect what you're doing for the art if nothing else and I just want I wanna sum this all up by saying watch this movie people. I don't know how many listeners are watching films that we've talked about or have seen them. Well I hope so. And we're starting to include where you can watch them and stuff like that. Yeah sorting to mostly. It's Amazon video. I'm just going to say I mean yeah most of what we find. Is there a lot of stuff that we We might have some stuff on DVD. Right that you know because we we love it to be movie and it isn't because we favor Amazon prime is just because by happenstance tons of movies and indie movies. Get an Amazon prime. Because it's easy to get onto that platform. Well yes out of Amazon. Netflix and Hulu Amazon hands down has the most varied. It has the largest catalog sherrod. Yes and it's very like the other two combined can't compare to and if you've been a net flicks subscriber for years. We have you you. You can recall how. It's been paring down right now. There isn't enough on net flicks for me too. I don't watch during. There's a couple of things show up at once a month. I'll find something that looks interesting on every now and then one of the show is that we keep up on pops back up with a new season like altered carbon. Yeah just came out which I was kind of about the first one but this one is Anthony. Mackie unlike all right. I'm I'm in year when see where this one's going. 'cause Anthony Mackie man tell you what he is under sold as Falcon vendors movies He is his awesome. Watch this movie. You can rent it on Amazon Prime Video. It is if you're prime member is a ninety nine cent rental. If you're not a prime member I think is probably a dollar ninety nine dollars. Prime members of things as half is it. How is it like a dollar on what the total cost is? But Yeah Watch these movies and it's not on those three. There's all bishops cameo to be how I share. I mean there's so much shit out there you know. Some of its freeze August. Subscribe but you know it. Worst case scenario a lot of movies. We've talked about. You can find a big library. That has a video selection. We don't this is Madison. There's no big libraries. The main library is is like the the fucking periodical section of like the New York Public Library. It's embarrassingly small okay. Well how tall is that building? And how many of those floors are actually books? It is between six and eight fours and the bottom floor is not books. It's like an activity area anyway. Walking away from the point looks big. But you get in there. We went to the one outside of Madison like man. This is really nice. 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Ep. 243 - New Info on the Murder of Ahmaud Arbery

The Breakdown with Shaun King

15:09 min | 2 months ago

Ep. 243 - New Info on the Murder of Ahmaud Arbery

"We have new information on the murder of a motte. Aubrey on what was going on in the neighborhood that day on more neighbors that were involved and are starting to give us real insight into how they even knew. Ahmad was in the neighborhood running through the neighborhood on a break. It all down. WanNa give you new information. We have new action steps for us to take together. This is Shaun King and you're listening to the the breakdown breakdown breakdown. You're going to hear me say this. A Lot. Here on the PODCAST. It's it's a hard lesson that I've learned after years and years of standing with so many families and fighting for justice so many times the only justice will ever get his the justice. We fight for as you already know. They had no intention on arresting anybody in the murder of a motte. Aubrey Not Travis. Mcmichael Gregory McMichael. In fact Gregory and Travis McMichael. They had moved on they. They were being seen all over town at the grocery store and the family of Ahmad was forced to see them casually everywhere. I mean that case was in effect basically closed it had been passed around like a hot potato from county to county. Da To da and the DA. They gave it to had no intention on ever making these arrests. It was not until we got involved in made this a national issue until millions of people filled out the petition and hundreds of thousands of you made phone calls that they then quickly made the arrest. The arrest is should have been made from the beginning. Now we know that not only will we have to do the same thing for William. Roddy Brian? But we're GONNA have to continue to fight from here until these men are convicted. The moment we let up the moment we stop putting pressure on them. The moment people in power in Georgia get the impression that we're not on them in on this case they're gonNa let up and drop the ball. They need to understand how invested we are how frustrated and angry we are and we have to continue to put the pressure on them that they deserve over the past. Forty eight hours. I've gotten several new very insightful. Bits of information and there is something I have to say. That is burning me up about this because we are finding residents of Sa- Tila shores. The neighborhood where Ahmad Aubrey was killed in Brunswick Georgia who say nobody ever talked to them. Not Police not prosecutors not the Georgia Bureau of Investigations. Nobody and that is alarming. I'm talking about people who were literally a home away from where Ahmad was killed people whose home was really twenty feet thirty feet away. From where MoD was killed Salah. Nobody ever spoke to us. What will now that we are speaking to residents. We're starting to understand what was really going on. Because he was the question that I had and and and have continued to have over the past month. How did everybody know that Ahmad was jogging through the neighborhood? How did the whole neighborhood? No Gregory Travis McMichael. They don't live next door to William Roddy Bryan. Out of William Righty Brian. Though how did Gregory and Travis Mcmichael how did they know who he was where he was? Who TOLD THEM? How did people all throughout the neighborhood? We now see and hear a nine one one call. That's not from William Righty Brian. That's not from a gregory or Travis McMichael but from another person at another part of the neighborhood. How how did they all know? Well we now have that information inside of Tiller shores the neighborhood. They had a private facebook group that they were basically using like a an armed militia and in that facebook group. We now have screen shots of other post from previous months of residents of Tila shores. Saying that if they ever saw somebody that didn't belong in their neighborhood and got the impression that they were committing crimes. They were GONNA kill them. There was a man who posted Ah Post on there. Basically saying if the wrong person comes through here I'm killing them and nobody was like hold on. That's crazy. They would just a minute. They all agree and what we now know. Is that on February. Twenty third on that fateful Sunday afternoon that residents of the entire neighborhood. We're texting each other about Ahmad posting about Ahmad calling each other about Ahmad frantically so much so that Travis Gregory McMichael got their hand guns and shotguns. That William Ready. Brian got in his car. And what we hear appears to be him cocking a gun. Of course he denies it because that's what he needs to do but we hear it other gun. Experts have heard it and also say that's exactly what it is and other neighbors also began coming out of their homes right away because they were texting calling and messaging each other through facebook through text messages through phone calls that they needed to confront Ahmad Aubrey. Then William Roddy. Brian got in his car. William and Travis McMichael got in their car at first I mean Gregory and Travis. Mcmichael got in their truck ended. I Gregory McMichael was sitting front. Then he decides get in the back so that he can move and aim his gun properly. Do you hear what I'm saying? They planned on a shooting going down. They planned on it. Not only that but we have just been contacted by former classmates of Travis McMichael. Who said that? He was an open bigot and open racist who deleted any trace of his social media so that it would not come back to him in this case. They said he was obsessed with his racism and bigotry and that the moment they learned that it was him who shot and killed him on that. Not a single person who ever knew Travis McMichael would see that and be the least bit surprised. In fact one person told us they were surprised that it had not happened sooner but he was an open racist and open big. This was their moment where the neighborhood basically collapsed on a MoD. He runs through. They WANNA make Ahmad out to be a criminal but let me remind you the owner of the home that had no doors and no windows that Ahmad went in and came back out of has already openly said that Ahmad took nothing did nothing and cause no harm and that he had no problem with the owner of that home has openly said he did not in would not want the McMichael's a William. Righty Brian Acting as some type of armed Melissa that they did that on their own. So here we are what men that we now know racist. Open bigots getting their guns in tracking a Ma. Not For thirty seconds. Not for a minute. Not For ninety seconds two minutes or three minutes or four minutes but nearly five minutes they tracked and chased Ahmad all through that neighborhood and it appears that Ahmad may have even been almost exhausted by the time that he finally got to Gregory. And Travis McMichael Traffic Michael Walks around to the front of the truck and shoots Ahmad the first time the first shot went into a monster chess. So MoD was mortally wounded from the very beginning and at that point modest just going to have to fight for his life but he is critically injured. Would a shotgun blast to his chest? We hear on the Audio Gregory McMichael. The father telling his son to shoot amount and so here. We have this new information. But William Roddy. Brian is still free roaming all over social media and the news media being interviewed by anybody who's willing to talk to him but not answering any tough questions about how he knew that Ahmad was in the neighborhood and what he planned to do pretending if he's a good citizen. I need to remind you that he didn't release this video. Someone else did not his attorney. But people connected to the McMichael's in fact the attorney for Gregory Michael. Says he was actually Gregory McMichael. Who released the video? We will see all I know. Is that the man who participated with Gregory and Travis. Michael who are in jail right now. The man who participated in this confrontation in boxing in of Ahmad is still free. He wasn't there as a good Samaritan he wasn't. There is a good citizen. In fact experts have watched the video that is filmed by William Roddy Brian and say that his lack of noise. Andy motion from the shooting shows very well the he knew exactly what was going on that if he had no idea that there was about to be a shooting he would have screamed or flinched or said. Oh Hell no like anybody. Normal would have. But he did nothing. He didn't said nothing reports the their crime. Podcast are a guilty pleasure for so many people but society has a case of missing White Woman Syndrome. You know there's a fascination with covering missing or endangered white women true crime cases that involve people of Color. Just don't get the same attention but a new podcast called BRA is a murder fills that void and brings these cases of colored light. And I love it. Brussa murder is a true crime. Podcast hosted by my friend. Andrei in it blends the exploration into cold cases with fresh musical elements each episode ends with music from an up and coming artists. And I really dig it. I just listened to the episode justice for Joshua where Andre digs into the unsolved murder of a twenty two year. Old Black man named Joshua Delaney. Want you to check out that episode Bra. A murder is on. I tunes spotify. Google play stitcher and everywhere else you can get a podcast. You can also go directly to the show's website it's Bra it's a murder dot com B. R. U. H. I. S S A murder dot com. Don't wait listen subscribe now. It's true crime in living color off for the next forty eight hours. We have put new numbers on our hotline at seven. Seven zero eight zero zero zero six eight nine if you call that number seven seven. Zero eight zero zero zero six eight nine. We have put new numbers to connect you with new offices new targets new staff New People who can call for William Roddy Brian to be charged and arrested with the murder of Ahmad opry? Here's what I know. We can't let up in our team right now at this very moment is literally manning that hotline regularly changing out. The numbers who whose voice boxes are full. If you call that number saving your phone lock it in your phone. Seven seven zero eight zero zero zero six eight nine. That's our hotline for a mind. Okay saving your number in your phone. As hotline for Ahmad or justice four model. Run with. Ma Whatever you want to that number will stay the same. But what happens when you call that number? Our team is changing it. Every hour as voice boxes get full when you get a full voicemail box press star if you get another office. That's full press star. If you leave a voicemail after you finish. Don't hang up press star if you get to speak to. Somebody say at the governor's office who pretty much make sure that somebody always answers the phone there after you talk to somebody. The governor's office don't hang up. What do you do press star and we need you to call these numbers every day all day today all day tomorrow at seven seven zero eight zero zero zero six eight nine. 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The Road to Justice for Ahmaud Arbery  Defendants Back in Court

Court TV Podcast

35:06 min | Last week

The Road to Justice for Ahmaud Arbery Defendants Back in Court

"The, views and opinions expressed in this podcast are simply that opinions all are presumed innocent until proven otherwise in a court of law, sensitive topics are discussed. Discretion is advised. On today's Court TV podcast. The men accused of killing jogger Ahmad were back in court in court TV's chan-lee painter on the scene. She'll join me to tell us what transpired in and outside of the court. The entire case hangs on the cell phone video of the shooting, but could that video acquit one of the defendants? Criminal Defense Attorney Equity. Mercy returns to discuss that issue and we'll get into the George a hate crime law inspired by Aubrey's death. This is the court TV. PODCAST with Vinnie Paz Dan Welcome to the court TV podcast on, Vinnie politician great to have you aboard. Thank you for downloading. Thank you for listening and supporting and please share it with a friend. So. The George Floyd. Case is bigger than big I mean. We are all standing right now. In the shadow of everything that has happened as a result of the George Floyd case, which will become George Floyd trial, which will cover on court TV? But if you go back just a little bit before George Floyd, there was another story another case that is as important obviously because you're talking about loss of life and. It was a story and a case that shook the community because of the images that they saw. And I'm talking about the case of Ahmad Armory. The young man from south Georgia, who was who was jogging through a neighborhood? And is followed and chased by a couple of pickups, eventually shot and killed now. No police involved in that one, so there's a difference. From that perspective, but there are. The same emotions that run through the community for a story in a case like that, so this case is still happening. This trial is still happening. There are three defendants. They are charged with murder, and there was a huge court appearance and chan-lee Painter Court TV. Legal correspondent was on the ground for us at the courthouse, covering all of it, and she joins us now chailly walking back. vinnie going okay. And I only say okay, because we're not altogether again. You know I think things will be great when everyone can beat together, but we're obviously all in our in our own space is still Trying to protect ourselves and protect each other's as best we can through all of this, but you've got to go down to the courthouse. Downing Glenn County Georgia described for the folks who are listening. Because now we're in the shadow of George Floyd there's other stories other cases, and this one still important, but still moving forward in this world of of covid everything else. That's happening. So, what was it like down there? Right well, even though the defendants all three Travis Nick Michael Gregory. Michael and William. Roddy Brian appeared on video conference because of covid nineteen restrictions. The courthouse was still buzzing vinnie. There was media from all over the nation. There were spectators, a lot of family members of the Mata Armory, and not as many protest as we saw in the preliminary hearing in early June, but there were a handful of people out there with t shirts and signs protesting while this hearing was taken lace. And how did they handle things inside the courtroom? Because I'm always curious, because each jurisdiction is doing things a little bit differently and depends on the nature of of the hearing, so for this hearing, which was all about an arraignment and some motions that were filed in. In and a bond issue, how did they? How did they set it up? who was where and what were the rules? Lots of precautions there at the courthouse. We all had to wear mask. When we entered the courthouse, they made sure that the courtroom everyone sitting in there was six feet apart enough room for social distancing, so that meant there was an overflow courtroom for the media and other spectators. That's where I was sitting, watching the hearing in there, but you had to go through security, and it was just it was very strict as far who was allowed in the courtroom, only a moderate family, the witnesses who were subpoenaed to testify and of course, the lawyers representing his family. Okay, let's get to Why everyone is there and there's the arraignment of the McMichael's which. It is what it is. But to me. The hearing was all about the third defendant. Not the McMichael's ones with the guns, but Roddy Brian. The one with the cell phone camera, the one who was trailing Ahmad, Aubrey, as he was shot and killed at least at the end of what happened inside that neighborhood Tila shores, so Kevin Gov the attorney? was talking about bond and interesting comment that he made. Let's take. Let's take a listen to cap here talking about. How unfair it is for his client charged with murder to not get burned even in Georgia murder defendants do get released on bought. We have to murder defendants, one murder defendant and one putative murder defendant I if I understand the media reports correctly and shooting in Atlanta they both got bond. gentleman accused of an aggravated assault as I understand it during which the Alleged victim died. That's felony murder under the same theory. That's being pursued here. Our position is the justice shouldn't depend on what county you're in what which prosecutor you have, and it certainly shouldn't depend on blue privileged whether you have a badger not. The law shouldn't be respecter of persons. And our client is entitled to avant all right, so let's the gist of part of what Kevin Gov was saying, and he's referring to the Rashard Brooks case. And in that case, we have murder defendants who are out on bond. Right and actually interviewed Kevin Golf while I was in Brunswick Georgia, and he brought this up. He tries to make comparisons even to the shootings of Rashard Brooks in Amata armory, and he says it's inherently unfair that they have blonde and his client doesn't. He also wants to make an interesting distinction, which was that his client charged with much less even though his client space in a nine count indictment, including murder felony murder, awesome prisonment aggravated assault, but he's trying to make this argument in. In back, the whole hearing even called his son Preston Brian to the stand to try to convince the judge that he wouldn't be a flight risk. He's not a danger to the community and comparing to other cases he should get a bomb. Ultimately, the judge kept him in jail. Many gentlemen and one of the things prosecutors were talking about was Costa Rica right that he has some ties to Costa Rica, what you highs does Rodney Brian from Glenn County Georgia have to Costa Rica. Right well, he doesn't even speak Spanish that was asked of him, but he does have ties through an X. Y., who apparently lives in Costa Rica right now remarried, but the prosecutor wanted to use at the show. Hey, he has connections in another country. He could go there possibly on. I like this prosecutor by the way I've covered other trials, but he's been a part of. He's really good, but staring at how much all right so his argument was that his ex wife, who was remarried to another man, would help him somehow escaped. The chair sticks in the United States. That is a sitcom. You understand. That is the plot for a Sitcom where a ex wife and her new husband take in their. Their murder defendant ex husband I mean it's ridiculous. I couldn't imagine but I. Guess You put it out there. Because there is some connection right there is, and when his son Preston was on the stand, the prosecutor on Cross did ask him. When was the last time he visited somewhere out of country only four years ago, so it was pretty recent when he did go to Costa. Rica wherever somewhere out of country, but Yeah prosecutor wants. To America. If you let him out judge, don't let them out. All right so he he didn't get out and I don't think anyone thought he would necessarily get out. And another one of the reasons is because of real headline I bury the Lead folks sorry. The big headline from the bond hearing for a murder defendant, Roddy Bryant. was what came out in terms of another investigation? Let's take a listen to the prosecutor here. Talking about the sex crimes investigation of Rod O'Brien this. Investigation came out of this investigation that it's not a case that happening hot county. It's not a case for which we've been appointed Campbell any prosecution that come out of the investigation so other than that. There's a victim as the latest to their charges. I'm not going to discuss that any further channel. Where on Earth did this come from I mean. I was. What sex crimes. Not only did you bury the lead with the prosecutor buried delete? He waited till his closing argument towards the end of it, and just threw it in there in a mix of Bisa. Matt and everyone's sitting in the media overflow courtroom. We sorted. swint that each other. Did he say that? What did you just say? Yes, so it was something took a bag. And of course we want to know all about at the Gbi, also tweeted about it, saying it was stemming from their investigation into righty Brian from them at armory case somehow lead them into this sex investigation from GB I. my guess is, it might be as fun right. The same phone recorded. The shooting might have had something in there. But what struck me? She said there's a victim so this isn't a case of like downloading. Child pornography off of some dark website or something. No, th, there's there's. Talking about a real victim here this I mean now you stack up felony murder and an investigation into a sex crimes. There's no way he's getting out number one and number two. This is a huge problem. I don't see him getting out period Oh. Yeah, no way not only does he have the investigation Vinnie prosecutor also brought up the federal investigation against William Roddy Bar. Brian into possible hate crimes. He went into the alleged races, racist attitudes and rotties communications on that same phone or they apparently got. These sex crimes allegations as well. Let me tell you Roddy Brian and his phone I mean that. It's got the video. It's got his use of the N. Word, and it may be linked to some alleged sex crime as well. I mean he's carrying. It's unreal. Absolutely unreal and this I can't imagine that Kevin Goth knew that he know about this ahead of time. I asked him the day before the hearing, and he acted as if he didn't know any thing, but then when the prosecutor said that he received an email, the day before makes me think he knew, but I talked to Kevin after the hearing, and he alleged that he didn't know much about it at all. He was on his way to the Joe. Right, then after the hearing to talk with his client Roddy about it while the case went from bad to worse for him now. Something else. That came up and I. Begin this whole podcast talking about George Floyd and George Floyd made his way into the courtroom for this hearing as well. Let's take a listen to. Lee Merritt and he's a great attorney representing the family. Very powerful voice. Talking about his face mask that he was wearing. Let's take a listen I'm sure that he would like to move this case different time and place. Maybe one America's great in his mind. Of George Floyd is an individual who suffered from police brutality. He's not appropriate party to this case where he is name all my face on my face mask no way. Little statement. It's a distraction from. The really serious nature is the finish is claims act. So this is not a unique issues unique. Because we're talking about face masks, but in courtrooms all the time champion you've been around the country covering these cases, oftentimes, victims, victims, families, victims, advocates and their attorneys. Will wear buttons shirts. Things often referencing the victim or something related to the victim here. It's George Floyd so. Kevin Gov objected to this had the judge handle it. And how do we think the judge will handle it going forward? A great point and a great question, and a judge basically said, or echoed with prosecutor are viewed. which was that visit a trial? There isn't a jury here. That could be unduly influenced by looking out into the gallery and seeing names on people's face mask or t shirts. And the judge ultimately said look uncomfortable, arraigning all three defendants, and determining these emotions without being influenced by what's on someone's mask with the judge didn't see was there were other mask in the courtroom? That's actually said Hashtag Justice Ahmad or Iran with Ahmad. They, Louis members had on t shirts. It's interesting. Kevin GOP. Didn't actually bring up those mask and t shirts that were visible in the courtroom. At that I think that's definitely more of a jury issue in. It'll be more of a hot button when we get to the trial, but the judge is the judge, and the judge can always disregard things, and they usually do. They understand how to handle it chan-lee painter. Thank you so much travelling the country bringing us all the details. Thank you so much now. In this case. We talked a bunch about Rodney Brian. There's a piece. The best piece of evidence for prosecutors in this case is video the video of the shooting of a Motte Arbor. And the video and the shooting by the mcnichols right? And from my perspective for prosecutors. That is the best evidence against the McMichael's. It's incredible. It shows US almost everything. We need to see right. There's one little second where we don't see. But unfortunately what I believe is that that same video may be. A very good piece of evidence for the third defendant Roddy Brian Well I'm going to explain what I mean, and then I'm going to have to defend it because we're bringing in Ekelund mercy who. As she often does does not agree with me on this subject so. We'll debate the big piece of evidence next. For More Court TV Watch it on cable over the Air Roku, or go to court TV. Dot Com and streaming live gavel to gavel coverage. Catch up on the big moments from our current cases and relive some of court TV's most historic trials court TV. Your front row seat to justice. All right folks so this is the part of the podcast where there's an issue. That I liked to debate with someone right and you got to do battle, but to do battle. You GotTA get your game face on, so we're getting ready to do this. The segment and I see my opponent Ekelund mercy, great, criminal defense attorney, Atlanta and Atlanta. Comes in wearing a New York Yankee shirt. And I'm like that's it. That's it that game on. So quickly I run upstairs. And what am I? Put on my new. York mets shirt. because. We're not having Equa mercy. Join his acklin great to see you. Did He. How dare you? How dare you? This is my house and you're wearing yenkey stuff. Scion unapologetically hello. All right well I just hope that during our debate I do better than the mets do against the Yankees that's. Hoping all right, let. This is what we're GONNA to talk about is the video. The video and the Aubrey case is an amazing piece of evidence. For the prosecution against the McMichael's because you see everything they do. Those are the two guys with the guns in the pickup, one of whom shoots and kills armory. But I think unfortunately. It's a great piece of evidence for the man who is recording that video. Roddy Brian Acklin you do not agree with me. Do not you are wrong. You're wrong. All right I'M GONNA go first, and it starts here and I say unfortunately and I want to preface that folks I'm not making an argument for Roddy. Brian what I'm telling you is what's going to happen and unfortunately this is a great piece of evidence for Roddy, Brian, this video and it comes down to the arguments that Kevin Goth is attorney. Make look at the facts surrounding the video, the only person on the face of the earth who knows this video is being made and being recorded at the time. It's being made in recorded. Is Roddy Brian Okay. He's the only one that knows. That this video exists. He's the only person on earth okay. So, if in fact, prosecutors are going to argue that these three men are working as a lynch mob. Are they going to argue that Roddy Brian's job as part of this lynch mob is to Corral And make sure that you record the lynching, so we can memorialize all of this. And don't forget how everyone finds out about the recording. Roddy Brian at the scene. Invites police into his truck to view the video, so police show up there. Just investing you try to figure out what happens and Ronnie Brian. Tells Police. Listen I got I've got it on video. I, recorded it. Please take a look at it. Shows it to them right then and there. So. Again. Unfortunately, the argument that Kevin Goth can make is lazy. Let's go inside the body Brian. What's his intent? Here was his intent to lynch. Ahmad Aubrey. If so, why would he record a crime? And then why? When police show up the first thing he would do is hand over to police the evidence of the crime that he committed. This goes one hundred percent into the mindset of Roddy Brian and this is a strong argument that Kevin Goth can make to a jury. that. Why on earth would someone record their own crime and then the first thing they do when police show up? Is hand the piece of evidence over to them. ACKLIN. Arguing was very compelling in sense. It's you can tell that you're not racist. By the argument that you provided because we did not include the racist element. Ronnie, Brian in the Michael's were racist, and they were on age racist Tirade. That is why they went around. That is why they have video. As you can see back in the day when they did lynchings in wasn't prided, they had videos. They need pictures of it because they were excited about what they did. We are in a world in which we have Presidential rallies in which races tirades are invited so to to be to say that Haiti's men weren't in building would be wrong. They were in bolted with regards to the back surrounding the video. Let's talk about it the fact surrounding videos. Let's talk about the video. When he was I invited. It was no audio I. Don't know I have that function in my recording in the sense in which I can record a thin ideo in not on your. You know who had the. Mr Brian. We didn't hear the shock in the basement of something that somebody about to die. Why because that million participating in now? He missed a whole big piece of evidence in that pieces of Ahmad. Berry was found on missed the giants car. Pieces that means that evidence of Mr Bridge that means that he hit. The armory with his car to prevent him for movie. To say that he was unarmed is wrong. Mr Robin Mister Bryant had the biggest weapon it at the time. Which is the whole vehicle? Truck with a whole trump down at he did his way, even had that man was cool hand Luke because he was watching a murder, and nobody asked for the audio initially because he was a murder. You know who that the cops you had racist cops come to a racist situation. Leave. The racism states okay hit him with the high side and let him live for three months. Months without any interruption to say that Mister. Bryant wasn't guilty is a farce. He was very much guilty at an end for three months. They watched a video and immig miles. What because they were able to stop? Being friends after Arboretum was shot and killed, they were still friends. They still had the video. They watched it so much, so daddy opened the door to sexual crimes. The this, this case should shock the conscience because the levels of racism in this case is unreasonable, we act three different prosecutors. This prosecutor who saw this in didn't think that this was a murder. We had officers at the scene saw this. In, dot, this which justify so the the Glenn Races. When the most important that evidence of our very being on righties car was still on his car. Three months acted incident and nearly care to wash off so. That that is that the video helps Brian. Totally doesn't work acting that. You didn't plinking most so. The prosecutors are going to argue. That Roddy Brian. Was Racist which they can. Was In cahoots and knew the police would not charge him, which is why he shared the video with police, and knew the process and shared it with the prosecutor because he knew the prosecutor would never charge them, is that do you think that is? An argument that is going to fly with the again. This I'm saying. These are all unfortunate facts for prosecutors in this case, and the prosecutors are going to have to prosecute. Roddy Brian. The McMichael's the local Glenn County Police and the prosecutor's office all in the same trial in order for that theory of yours to to not help. Roddy Brian? Welcome welcome to the practicing law. The South the levels of racism is so appeared like many I. I have to think of Armagh. Arbitrary. That I may get I get that I. Get that, but here's my point. My point is this makes that video the fact that he shoots video and there's more obstacles now. Prosecutors unfortunately again that and to me the obstacle is not only do I have to prosecute these three men. I've got to prosecute the local police and I've got to prosecute the local prosecutor and guess what I'm probably going to have to do it in Glynn County. Georgia. That makes the case more difficult. It's like it's like A. It's like a harper. Literally, but this is what in is in the south? We Wanna say that we come. We've come so far, but that's what it is, and that's how that's how big it is. That's how big it is I think we're agreeing here Hear me out here me out on my theory and why we're agreeing okay, because we're. We're making to arguments that are. not necessarily in conflict everything you're saying. I'm I'm agreeing with. Right. I, just have to get you to agree with the fact that the case is a little bit harder against Roddy Brian with him shooting that video and handing it to police, because now prosecutors have to take on the police and the prosecutors right so. Can we agree on that yes? Yes, all right all right I think we solved it. I think we did. This is a big moment, but I will not ever. Ever cheer for the Yankees. Especially when they play my mets, that will never happen, but I think we can agree here. To a certain extent that the there's going to be some obstacles here, but I think what you have shown me. And made me realize how you look at the case. You know I look at the case a certain way, but I have to get a different mentality onto to to get to that next level. So? Wow Acklin, always great having you on the show for having go Yankees got. That will be her last time on the show by the way. Either that or we can edit that out next time. We'll just bleep it out. Right Acklin mercy, incredible criminal defense attorney. In Georgia knows Georgia law. Insider knows Georgia juries, which is the most important part of of trying to case when we come back. I WANNA, talk about hate crimes, because at the time of the Amman archery shooting there was no hate crime. Law in Georgia and people were. Besides themselves coast to coast. When you come back I'm going to explain to you why it's really not a big deal. Especially in this case, number one and number two. Hate crimes. Are Way too over height by the media. We'll. Be, right, back. Follow Court TV live over the air uninterrupted. If you're watching television with an antenna, just rescan your channels now to add court TV and go to court TV dot com to see the exact channel position and more ways to watch court, TV and your area. They should charge him with a hate crime. Have they charge him with a hate crime, or they're going to charge the hate crime. This is a hate crime. I mean every time there is a case. That somehow involves. The race of the people involved or potentially involves the race of the people involved. Everyone in the business I work in which is the media and some members of the public, because the reacting to the media are jumping up and down about hate, crimes hate crimes hate crimes, and I want to spend a few minutes talking about hate crimes because. They're not all the cracked up to be okay. When we hear, it sounds like yeah, you got charged with a hate crime. Okay well and the amount. RB case. degeorge had no hate crime law on the books. That's because they had one, and it was ruled unconstitutional by the Georgia Supreme Court, so it was tossed, and then it was never rewritten, and recently they have done something to rectify that. But. In the. Case these defendants. These men are charged with felony murder. Okay, there is nothing more serious. In Georgia law them fell. It is the potential of a death penalty sentence, which I don't think the death penalty case, but there's the potential for it, and it's life without the possibility. It's the most serious charge. So the fact that there's no hate crime. Is completely irrelevant in Georgia. As to what could happen to these defendants, they've already been charged with the most serious offence available. And what a hate crime is in most jurisdictions because each state can write it, however they want, but most states it's what I call a criminal enhancer. Okay, what it does is, it'll take a crime and kick it up. One degree okay for. Every state. Does things a little bit differently? How they call it the nomenclature? ETC, but for for argument's sake here let's say you're charged with third degree crime right a third degree assault, but prosecutors in that state are charging it as a hate crime. It would bump up to a second degree assault, which okay yeah it gets, it definitely gets more serious. He gets enhanced, but that's all. It is like a hate. Crime is not like this. Big. Huge charge that is just gonNA. Send someone away till the end of time. It's it just enhances what prosecutors can expose you to. In terms of how many years because it'll, it'll take a degree make at first degree a third degree. Make it a second degree. Sometimes it takes a misdemeanor makes it into a felony. And this is done in other parts of the law as well for instance down in the state of Florida like if you commit certain offenses while wearing a mask, and by the way everyone in Florida spoke to be wearing a mask right now or is wearing a mask. It's the same type of enhancer. It's the type of enhancement that they did with gun laws. Where like if you committed a crime, but you happen to have a gun with you whether you used it or didn't use it. It would enhance the crime and at the end of the day. What really turns out? Being is a negotiating tool for prosecutors. So if if if a third degree is charged as a hate crime, well, then you can offer as a plea deal to the defendant. Plead guilty to the third degree crime. Otherwise we'd go to trial and I'm and I'm going to try to convict you of a hate crime, which would expose you to a second degree crime, so it ends up being a negotiating tool for all those lesser charges. That's how it's used day out like every other enhancer whether it's. Having a gun. Mask. There are other instances, but for the day in and day out practice of Criminal Law in our criminal justice system. The hate crimes just make it easier to get people to plead guilty because you say listen I'm going to charge you with a hate crime, and they plead guilty to the underlying crime and. Yeah it's a tool, but it's not this. It shouldn't be the first thing we're thinking about in a murder case. When someone has been shot and killed or someone has been lynched. Who Cares about the hate crime aspect of it? I want them charged with murder because I want to send him away for life or perhaps subject them to the death penalty. And the hate crime doesn't really play in the equation, so for those you who worried about the amount? Aubrey case that there was no hate crime on the books Georgia. You wouldn't have done anything. It would have had no impact whatsoever on the case zero Zippo not and none. The only and the other part of the hate crime that becomes a problem for prosecutors is when you're in the courtroom, because then you have to prove it. Hey crime is really proving the motivation for a crime the motive. Which prosecutors legally never have to prove? And one of the reasons that the laws have been set up that way that the motive is never an element of the crime because it is so difficult to prove. The legislatures across the country everyone to put that burden on a prosecutor to try to get inside the head of every defendant and try to prove why they committed a crime. Why is irrelevant except in the world of hate crimes where it's? That's all it is about is why. So just know this and I'm not disparaging hate crime laws. They're very effective negotiating tool that help prosecutors resolve cases much quicker and get people sentenced and convicted quicker and easier. It's great, and maybe there's a general deterrence out there because we talk about it so much that it helps and deters people from committing crimes, and if that's the case great. But at the end of the day. The hate crime is difficult to prove for prosecutors and is irrelevant for the most serious cases which are the murder cases, so I just wanted you to know that, so you're not upset about the fact that there is no hate crime there, and when the feds come in, and they do their hate crime investigation. That's like the backup plan. That's like just in case the state. CanNot Convict. These guys of murder like in the AMATA Aubrey case. There's a backup case that the Fed's will be having for Hate Crimes So that they can? Try that, but at the end of the day murder case you get the conviction. A RELEVANT All right folks. Thank you so much for listening to the PODCAST. We do it each and every week and we talk about the stories that we're talking about on television because court TV we noticed the TV in the court TV. That's because we're on TV we are. Digital Antennas Coast to coast city after city town after town. So if you have a digital antenna, scan it and re it so you can pick up our signal and watch our program I'm on every night from eight to eleven taking you inside the world of crime, injustice and I love it I. Love what I do. I would love you to watch our shows and continuing to listen to our podcast. Thank you so much have a wonderful wonderful week and as always don't forget dog kits. This podcast is production of court. 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Superstars who are parents sounds like an excuse talk to me because at Summer Slam in front of your perfect precious children the Queen challenges you you I respect you Charlotte player but right now you're just being and let let me remind you there would be no trail for you to blaze if there wasn't for me and second of all you more than anyone should know that to be the woman unique to beat the woman you want your match at Summer Slam. You've Gotcha matches Somerset Oh and as predicted by our whole famer bully ray last week Charlotte flair and Trish stratus Atis at Summer Slam in Toronto. Are you excited for the match. I am okay. How did you think they did last night Promo wise? I thought they were both good not great in my opinion. I'd say Charlotte was good. I'd say Trish was fair. Okay <hes> I thought Trish ended well. I thought that exchanged at Gabby just played <hes> was probably the better of her promo. I she came across like somebody that was just visiting adding like somebody that was just making some comments and didn't really get juiced up dinning. Honestly I was a little surprised really didn't get a crate crowd reaction last night either <hes> I thought Memphis Tennessee get if stratus kind of a little bit of a disconnect a little bit but it is is Trish stratus. I understand I understand but certain crowd reacts certain ways for certain people and you know she got a respectful awful respectful applause when when she came in not a monster pop or anything like that but I do agree with you she ended strong. It just felt like it's rushed rushed like it fell like maybe this you know kings court obviously they had it 'cause aware they were but it seemed like maybe that Tricia made this visit a few weeks ago and then that's where you plant the seed and then it builds and then you get the big announcement where Trish is like. I'm retired. I'm in my hi wrestling careers behind me. I'm a mom family woman this I. I'm no longer a wrestler and then you build up to point where you know what she says all right right. I'm coming back for one more match. It just seemed like you got all something that could have been spread out over a few weeks in a five minutes segment in the middle all of a smackdown. The last pay per view. We got was extreme rules correct. Yes a week or two after extreme rules. I would have loved to have seen the W._W._e.. Announce that Trish stratus was gonna be a special guest commentator at Summer Slam for one of the women's matches and now you we know that you're going into summer slam and you're going to get Trish stratus at commentary legendary hall of Famer on commentary lending to the credibility of the women's Championship Championship so let's say that that's exactly what they would have said Trish doing special commentary on the Women's Championship and now you decide to have an in ring with Trish as they did last night and Jerry's talking about our hall of fame career and why she wanted to come back and do commentary for the women's Championship and she talks about the credibility of the women's championship and she talks about how she's proud that women like her and leader could help pave the way for the women's Championship. Now you have Charlotte interrupt now you inter- We've into the story line. That's how I would have presented it. It would have been a soft play and then it would have built up nope because she would have been able to announce Trish early. She's going to be there and now whoa out of nowhere. She goes from doing commentary on a match to Charlotte flare calling her out and she's accent. She accepts now. I'm super stoked for this at bully. It just seemed like that should have been a bigger moment and like the way you played it out out like you know like we always say if you had the pencil I think that would have worked out really really well. That should have been a moment where when she made the announcement that she accepted that match the whole arena should have stood up and bid on their feet and almost felt like polite applause like that. That's a big that's a major moment. That's a marquee matchup. At the second biggest pay per view of the year man I like to discourage because with the lack of enthusiasm Suzy Azam that you've got last night from that crowd you're going to see one hundred times more of enthusiasm from the Toronto crowd and and you're right but again this this could have played out on TV. You always say perception is reality. You make it feel like a big deal. It's going to be a big deal. Yes where it's taking place in Toronto. It's going to be major and it's going to get a great crowd reaction but you also want to sell pay per views and you WanNa get subscriptions descriptions for the W._W._e.. NETWORK NOT EVERYBODY WHO's watching the W._W._e.. Right now rat the age that they were able to see Trish you you know when she was at the highest of highs. You got to build that up much better and like I don't mean to sound like a like a lunatic fan which I am but man don't. They think these things out bully like if you're if you're trish coming back for a match that if I'm with somebody in creative I'm salivating at the store you could build here when wrestling is booked correctly. It's booked backwards meaning. You know what your end result is going to be and then you figure out ways to get there. I agree three last night. Just felt forced when you brought it up to me last week that they have nobody for Charlotte. What are they going to do? At Charlotte immediately I just kind of figured out Toronto and they need an attraction match. They didn't have they don't have any other attraction matches on the show. Everything is pretty much straight up yup so that UH really stuck out to me. I would love to see it play out on tv a little bit better. I just gave you a scenario off the top of my head. Where is she can went from being announced to do commentary to then called out and put on the spot by Charlotte and Trish being a fighting champion and Hall Hall of Famer steps up and accepts the challenge? Here's my quandary. I guess so to speak which is the bigger match becky lynch versus. I'm sorry hold on. I just lost train of thought bad. It's barely versus Ember Bailey versus versus Talia M- Italia or Charlotte versus Trish for firm. May It's Becky in the Talia. What's the bigger perception match Charlotte interest? Do you think so because this is what I've been toying with. which is the bigger perception match to the W._W._e.? which is the bigger match Becky natty Charlotte and Trish Charlotte and Trish and that's not good? I mean where does this end up like like Charlotte doesn't need need to be put on a higher pedestal. I just think it's an attraction mattress Charlotte. They didn't have anything for her in the immediate <hes> time being it's the location. It's just one of those things that happens in the W._W._e.. And it's one of those things that happen that shows you sometimes that the veterans the legends and the icons seem more important to the W._W._e.. Creative and to the fans look at what happened with Honest when he walked down at long long entrance ramp at Silverdome so many iconic <hes> so many iconic matches so many iconic Piper's pit the you know the coconut to the head the Jimmy Snuka I mean when integrates of all time Rowdy Roddy Piper Bully Piper Adana gets lost in the shovel shuffle awful of steamboats savage and Hogan Andre Romania three it is a phenomenal match not not for for the wrestling it's because the characters and the stories were so deep and Adana losing his hair. If you go back and watch that match people are so behind Roddy and they hate Adana so much and I it's not that matches not talked about a lot because when you talk wrestlemainia the three obviously Hogan Andre steamboat savage show do yourself a favor go to the network and check out Roddy Piper and Adrian Donnas and on a personal note rest in peace Roddy Dave what my favorite interviews of all time when Roddy asked me to do his podcast in L._A.. With him I was there for a half an hour doing the podcast with him before he realized who I was. He had no idea that he was talking to me. He thought he was talking to somebody. Completely different is that true totally true totally true because when I was building up to put Dixie Carter through a table and he's like to you really think you can get away with putting a woman through a table and I'm Mike you remember the May Young Thing Rodney. He's like that was you. I'm like I knew it. You didn't remember he didn't know bubba ray bully ray confusing all right okay whatever Yvonne and I'm and I'm I'm very glad and and I mentioned it because it's so overlooked wrestlemainia three boy is you know top two three greatest wrestlemanias of all time and the match that is overlooked as Piper hyper and Adrian Adonis. If you remember that was Piper's quote unquote retirement match it wasn't an angle wasn't like a stipulation that was going to be his last match. If you remember at that time he was starting to do movies and that was where he was stepping away from the business and then he obviously came back and he had that entrance and everybody remembers is the Hogan entrance man pipers entrance to place went beserk with using types right he just he just kind of like walked out <unk> out there no that was that was the first Wrestlemania your thing he gets. The Bagpipe entrance gives me goosebumps I get goose bumps just thinking about the bagpipe entrance. He just walked out wrestlemainia thirty yeah he. If you remember they had that like ring car yeah that took all the wrestlers that are in because it was such a long distance the Andre Andrei boss Yes Piper walked it and I know Hogan did that later but but Piper did that in the middle of the show and it was to me it was is even more goosebumps because it was still daylight out seesaw that ninety three thousand fans like on their feet screaming for him. It's a it's a great image and like you said that match is fantastic and who could forget the Piper's pit with Jimmy Snuka one of the most iconic segments in the history of pro pro wrestling. I'll never forget as kids sitting in front of my T._v.. Set Saturday morning ten o'clock on W. O. R. Channel Nine and seeing that unfold right in front of my face and I was I was shocked. You know when I get asked who my favorite wrestler was as a kid. I always talk about the tag teams that I gravitated eighty two but I honestly think if one wrestler that I truly was mesmerized by it was Jimmy Snuka and it was for moments like that Snook definitely for my childhood was was an incredible he'll and a massive baby face and who made him that baby face Roddy early Piper Yup and I will say this about Piper too because we talked about Jimmy Snuka. You know we complain now about feuds getting cut short and pulling the plug on a few go to something different they did the same thing with Snuka and Piper like that feud starting with that Piper's pit and I saw the first match at the medal in the first smashed that they actually had together and they had to match at the garden and then they moved they completely got off of it. I think it was because a wrestlemainia and then wanted to quickly get piper per to Hogan but man you talk about a few that could have had legs Jimmy Snuka and Piper should've. I should've went on a lot longer. It's funny 'cause when I <music> I I was able to interview Piper and I was able to interview snooker and I brought that up to both of them and they they were kind of like it ran. It's course I disagree disagree that had legs. It's amazing how it meant so much to us but to them it was just no big deal and that is not the feud that turned snooker baby face. If you remember snooker if correct me if I'm wrong gave snooker turn baby face because Alabama would never let them talk and then buddy rogers finally told him it's okay to talk okay to talk and he uttered his first words on Piper's pit right <hes> it was it was it was actually I think it was buddy rogers corner okay on Rogers or right. You're right. You're right but hearing SNUKA talk for the first time imagine that you keep a guy silent for so long and then he utters one word and you're like wow that shows you how simple wrestling can be and when it's done the right way the littlest things will mean the most you know like it's different now because a free agency but back in the day you knew like when your team was a good team and that next year they were going to be a great team. You felt the momentum you know what I felt. The momentum when it came to Jimmy Jimmy Snuka and I knew that they were going to turn him face was the cage match with Bob Back at Madison Square Garden when he scaled that cage and he was on top of the cage and he did the Super Feilipe and he missed back Lynn and back on roll down and you knew I knew watching that match that he was going to be you baby face 'cause you actually start to hear the crowd turn and it was more about not about Bob back and it was about Jimmy Snuka the fans wanted to cheer Jimmy Superfly Snuka because they respected him for putting his body on the line and what he did. Nobody had seen anybody stand. Fans had never seen anybody buddy stand on top of a steel cage before that correct and I had never seen it now or at least a w._w._e.. Style steel cage so that iconic image of snooker standing ending up there before he dives and back moves out of the way it's like it's impossible to boo because you're just so mesmerized by what you're seeing seeing the climb him standing there holding his balance perfectly and then the the beauty of the dive almost like he died so gracefully and landed perfectly. Why do I WANNA boo? I know this is going to be a horrible. This comparison is so way off but axl rotten in e C._w.. Okay it was impossible for axl rotten to ever be a he'll in EC- W because because people loved him so much for the amount of blood he's the company it was impossible for people to hate Jimmy Snuka after that dive because they respected the fact that he put his life on the line for entertainment and obviously there's two things in that and when it comes to comparing it to what's going on right now first of all diving off the top approp- even diving off the cage. It's no big deal anymore. I mean you know it's almost like passe. Yeah like bully back then forget about the cage when Jimmy superfly superfly Snuka with Goto the top rope and due to superfly leap off the top that was a big deal everybody would get to their feet when he started to climb those ropes and now it happens almost every match and it's not a big deal anymore and then the other thing is we're having this discussion talking about the momentum Jimmy super high snuck off over to match by back on. It's hard to do that nowadays why we're so into the politics and what's going on backstage and everything that happens happens outside of the ring back then we didn't know about any of that all we knew it is what was presented to us on TV think about it. There were no dare cheats we had the apter mags and the apter mags kept the story going. It wasn't like what we get now where they were telling you what was going on in a real situation back states the magazine's kept to the story line that you saw on T._v.. And that made the wrestling business beautiful imagine so entertaining and I just want to get back to the Piper thing for one second talking about wrestlemainia three but let's go back to the importance of Roddy Piper when it comes to Wrestlemainia one on what does every great baby face need. They need a villain. They need an even better. He'll so is Wrestlemainia so mania as big of an event or is that main event as big a main event if Roddy Piper is not there to stand across from Hokkaido. Oh you needed Roddy Piper more than anyone and Piper said throughout his career without me. Hogan is not as big as he was and he's probably right right because Hogan needed Roddy Piper every baby face needs a Great Hill Steve Austin needed Vince McMahon and Hogan at that point needed Rowdy Roddy Piper and again. We lost him today by default felt. I'm going on record right now to say this the number one person on your power rankings. This week is Roddy Piper okay. I'm changing the power <music> ranking Gabby to see you know all right number. One is going to be Rowdy Roddy Piper gotta respect for him right yeah all all while you were gonNA disagree for a second but you do you get Hamid I can't I can't disagree on. How can I say no and you just brought that up? I'll tell you what we'll make him honorary number number. How about we do this? We call it the Rowdy Roddy Piper W._W._e.. Power rankings and we stick to the original five because Gabby avenue a nervous attack here on the board panic yeah. She's having a panic attack because he's probably thinking we're. How can I find a rowdy Roddy Piper clip to play this quickly? You know that's my best all right a- and also to do yourself a favor since we're celebrating the career in the life of Rowdy Roddy Piper who he lost four years ago today go to Youtube and what some of those Piper's pit I mean don't forget about the go to youtube do yourself a favor cody youtube but what some of those Piper's pit I mean unbelievable talking about magical moments unreal unreal bully real heat the Mike and saying things things that roof who could never get away would say today and I'll and I'll bring an example being that one that was memorable that I was also. I believe He's doing out there ten. Get any baby face over remember the Roddy Piper Piper's pit with Frankie Williams the first that's the first ever Piper's pit and break. You Williams say jobber a career jobber by the end of that segment. What did you want to see Frankie Williams? Do you want to see him. Knockout Rowdy Roddy Piper. Did you ever give a damn about Franken yeah. Did you ever care or invest any thought in the emotional wellbeing or or love or feel anything towards Frank Williams. It's not an ounce but by the time Piper was done berating him and belittling him. You're like you're saying yourself. Come on Frankie Nike just stand up and punch them right in his face. Well bully you. Ask and you shall receive. Let's go back to the first ever Piper's pit with very special guests. Yes Frankie Williams bean kind of person that I am and I like to give everybody a fair break. What I'm doing other kinds of my heart? I have a gentleman here named Frank Williams Frank Williams first of all. I don't know where you're coming from Columbus Ohio from Columbus Ohio. I've wrestled Columbus Ohio. I've never lost a match in Columbus Ohio. Have you ever lost a mess. You have the it seems odd to me. When you're talking about fighting careers in career myself I went on the premise of never having to lose a match? I've never lost a match in my whole career. I've had different things happen to me but I've never actually actually lost the match because I figured once you were defeated one time that it would take that away from you that you needed yourself. You're just the opposite I have never seen you win a Mac. You're my whole career of wapping and I've seen you've been around. You've thought commended fighter. I what you've done but you got the guts you lack the authority to go in there to gut them when you're against the Roe what to do is instead of going after a man you just back off from them. Maybe a little cowardice they work to do. Maybe should be making pizzas gower. Nobody nobody otherwise I will wait a second writer. Relax relax verbal. This is not physical or something like that. I say I'm not afraid nobody. I'm always in style reading no matter what I wrote for. Nobody got no room for nobody. That's a wonderful thing. You got no room for. Nobody but you're a lousy wrestler. That's that's a simple as that. I might be allowed to resume Dan Bay having alive. Oh No frankly Oh oh no oh oh no no no you turn it off at the absolute wrong time face a quite a go the the iconic line from Rowdy Roddy Piper sorry it was Kinda hard to hear and that but I didn't want to cut it and I love the Uis ause from Vince McMahon on commentary areas well. I wonder who is in Vincent here feeding him. All I want to give do ya been senior day. Oh right now god. Why are are you talking about? He hit him secure good conic. I mean you know Frankie. Williams like you said Ah you know excuse the term jobber enhancement talent and in that segment listen would we be talking about Frankie Williams today if it wasn't for that iconic Piper's pit not even a mention he'd be off the radar the only time you would hear Frankie. Williams name is if you're playing the wrestling name game and you got F._W.. F._W. Yes and then you'd be screwed because you're gonNA remember Frankie Williams but that's the beauty of Piper a he'll who knew how to get every single baby deface over and listen if you don't believe me just ask Rick Flair Yup because nobody speaks more glowingly about Roddy Piper than ric flair and and the other thing too what was the big thing in the eighties that really got pro wrestling to the mainstream the rock and wrestling connection when did that start on Piper's pit with Cyndi lauper and Captain Lou Albano that started a trend that got over pro wrestling and a golden era how about the memorable Piper's pit when when Andre ripped the a shirt and the ossoff Hogan Piper was there for so much he might not have been directly involved in the match but he was the catalyst for so many eight different things if you don't know Sirius X._M.. THAN LISTEN UP Commercial Free Music Plus sports comedy talk and news they had it. All a lot of people think you need a car to enjoy Sirius X._M.. But but you don't you can listen outside the car right now. You can get your first three months of Sirius X._M.. Outside the car for just one dollar just go to siriusxm dot com slash busted to see offer details and to subscribe subscribe. You can listen on your phone at home and online that Sirius X._M.. Dot Com slash busted offer available to new series X._M.. Streaming subscribers siriusxm no car required acquired as you probably knew by listening to our show yesterday. The announcement has been made about October second and who cody Rhodes will face as again October second at the Capitol One arena in Washington D._C.. Tickets go on sale this Friday. You WanNa be a part of history. Make sure you sell this building out busted open nation because you're GonNa Remember this twenty five thirty thirty five years down. The road about the first time you saw saw a w and the first time they were on T._N._T.. Live on Wednesday nights and who better bully to talk about it. Then friends of the show cody Rhodes Cody. How are you today who better right better? I'm good. How are you guys? We're good and listen listen. Thanks again for that announcement yesterday. Sixty seconds seconds yeah sixty seconds after you signed off. It had to be that way. I'm I'm sorry I think we odu in bully and everybody there a scoop sometime in the future as we go. We'll have to give excuse oops. We're not making announcements after you guys go off the air things like that cody with you know with you and Matt and Nick and Kenny being the V._p.'s of the company that you're only going to have so many firsts four eighty w wasn't was was it more important for you to have the first match on T. N.. T to the other guys WANNA be a part of it. How is that decision vision made no? It wasn't so much about the the first match. I don't think that was like everyone was looking at the show really in its totality and I <hes> we were playing around with the ideas as a group you know Antoniou included a just what that first card looks like and I was really adamant and the crew is incredibly understanding with the fact that I wanted to do something. That's a little bit kind of <hes> unique to people's expectations. Perhaps I really wanted to do something with a young in Hungary and kind of a a guy who has no ceiling but he's actually a relatively unknown to the audience that we're GonNa be in front of and that being <hes> Sammy Guevara so I was more pro that and it wasn't necessarily the first the second where where it sits on the card and as you know things could change but I <hes> now that I've said <hes> and now that <hes> they got the response. It did <hes> that being the very first match ever on T._N._T.. And T._N._T.. That hasn't had wrestling in nineteen years that being the first match ever <hes> is important and has to set the tone and you know when we've done everything that we've done leading into a double or nothing nothing and all out and fight for the fall and fighter and all that we've made so many promises and one big thing especially Matinee Kenny Tony. Everyone is really big on. There's no oh there's no false salesman in the group. Everyone is ginny moon that we have to fulfill promises in one of those promises was was the word fresh and and Samuel Baras is fresh and I I know both of you have seen semi <hes> wrestle belda belts really special. I think people who kind of you know just were indifferent to the reaction yesterday. I would hope that Kim years from you know ten to in that very first Awa T._N._T.. Show I would hope people think wow that was really good. Call <hes> and you know you know bully when when when you're part of the part of the crew that's helping helping build it. If you want that responsibility <hes> you WanNa do it <hes> honestly but damn right the first match ever you said and I kind of acted like I did want to be but yeah no hi <hes> it feels right <hes> for it to be one of us and I was happy that it gave gotta be me. The reason I asked is because in knowing you I thought it would be important for you personally twenty years down the line hopefully to go back and look at it and say hey. I was the very first match so that's why I asked the question but I just I want to get to the Sami thing all of the reason you gave for choosing a younger wrestler to be in the ring with you with great so my question ocean is why did it come down to Sammy. What about Sammy? Do you WANNA feature to the world. Deep is so important to what W is going to be about well. He's he's fresh young. He's hungry like I said he's got in an air about him. He's not somebody that you can really pinpoint and say <hes>. That's a heel. That's a baby face and it's not necessarily that you can almost look at him as if he's just a rookie draft pick and that re he's that rookie draft pick that you know is really really good that you seem stats so you got his forty time. He's just a competitor competitor so it's two fold. I know on the big stage page and then I'm putting pressure on seeing me. Perhaps you know I know that <hes> that he can glow out there. If that makes any sense I've seen seen what he does and AAA. I saw what he did a double or nothing. I think it's important that we introduce something absolutely brand new to the world. That's why I said we gotta be going forwards and not backwards but the second the second element of that is I'm thirty four years old now and I feel like I mean during like wrestling prime. I really do <hes> <hes> I WANNA challenge my own self. There's a style that I've been kind of known for and that I- proliferate and I want to continue to push my style any me bald as a as a wrestler as a competitor and it's only people like that. That's the most important thing here. It's only people like that who are going That obviously with this show because you're very top heavy and star power but you're gonNA have to introduce the rest of that roster to a public that may not know a lot of those names because because outside of the hardcore fans they may not know that name but at least you have the advantage. I think that the people who be tuning into your show WanNa see younger fresher faces well. I mean one one thing that you you guys have heard the term. So much as you guys talk about wrestling uh-huh you guys have heard the term casual fan right. Oh how they're going to get the casual fan and the term casual fan I just Wanna I honestly I think I throw up a little my mouth every time I hear it because it's this it's this vernacular to describe wrestling that is based on the Monday night wars when the Monday night wars are over there not a thing as far as they're not happening here. Now in the president what's happening in the present is we can't determine what it is something that only history will be able to tell us so my focus is always the base that built a w and that base if you've seen it you get get it and if you and if you haven't seen it it's it's just something that you have to see him. Feel and bullying knows what I'm talking about because there's a lot of confidence. It's <hes> that sometimes you can get misplaced for you know arrogance on my half from eats behalf but I've seen the power. I've I've seen it and that that's that's why I want to focus on them. First and foremost you know there's people twenty critical of what a w <hes> does instead of signal boosting that I'd rather I'd rather a hundred of the fans that we have in that base then that one salty son of a bitch. That's not coming on board award <hes> anyways. If that makes any sense you guys know that I way to fail to try to please everybody but I gotta take care of the people who brought us to the dance in the first place and I think that'll be appealing on a global level. I assume you WANNA get I want to ask you about Shawn Spears and I wanNA talk about a term used in in our business called getting over for years. Shawn Spears hung out at the lower card of the W._W._e.. Not even known a guy named ty dillinger but in one month eighty W was able to get him over. We're well now. He's on the tip of e w fans tongues and wrestling fans tongues. I know the answer to this question but I'd like like you to tell our listeners. How did you guys get Shawn Spears over in the snap of a finger it took <hes> took sugar snap of a finger and it took ten staples to the back of my head? <hes> I think the answer with how somebody like Shawn Spears goes from kind of toiling in obscurity <hes> or like you said lowered the Middle Cart. I should know the answer to that better than anybody because I was toiling in the lower to the middle you know the Middle Card is one thing they've done really well. They've moved the road to series series that is produced in Atlanta. They've moved into the all the wrestling channel now you know it's a fully wrestling show and I can't <hes> have let it let it go there and absolutely we love it as they've been able to people's real stories wrestlers are interesting lot and <hes> and people love people love the reality ability of of our industry. That's one thing that we keep saying a w the term keep saying sports centric and sports centric means a lot of things but one thing it means is covering these day to day lives really are and what they are may not be a traditional means that can get a character connected to the audience <hes> I don't know and it also might just be the magic of somebody like Tully Blanchard 'cause love him hate him. I don't really particularly no how I feel about about him. When that guy talks there's I mean there's magic that when I got moves there's magic it's it's it's really special for a younger younger wrestler to even be able to see tally? I know bully you know what I'm talking about but it could it could be that could have been the that could have been the one thing Shawn Spears needed all along a a true and genuine advisor and manager and he got somebody very unexpected and <hes> you know it's always something you oh cody. We obviously talk a lot about e. W We talk a lot about you. On this show <hes> the match you had with your brother Dustin at double or nothing I I said top Hopton one of the best matches I've ever seen and I told you that personally after the match in Las Vegas what you've been able to do you know you left the big corporate monster and you've been able to do it on your own and now we talk about sell out after sell out. I know what it's like somewhat on a much smaller scale L. building up this show but I still have that corporate monster above my head. I can only go so far. How have you been able to do that and is there a balance because you do have other people that you have to answer to yeah but we could look at it as if we were answering to them or we could look at it if we were working together with with them? <hes> I learned right away. How good of a partner Warner media in Turner was going to be when I was tying? Mad Jackson's licensed tie in the back of a of a car service taking us to the up fronts to the carpet where we were going to announce our show and they tweeted that fire or graphic and wrote wrestling is returning to T._N._T.. And since then we couldn't have asked for more finger on the pulse partners. I'll could be Kinda some inside baseball here. There is no one in the Warner Media Group no one in the Turner group who was there during the W._c._w.. W. Time that to us is a massive blessing. I it's there's no pre existing grudge or pre existing thought on what wrestling wrestling is gonna be <hes> Kevin Riley who is the president of Network <hes> his relationship with Tony Kahn helped propel us to to the platform form and the SPA and Kevin has been an absolute. If you're looking at it by standards that you would compare. He has been Turner the Ted Turner <hes> You you know how Ted was the W._C._W.. He's been that a w and one of the best parts about that. He's listened. He's he's he's booked us all in the eyes and talk to us about what's important to us. That's what we're passionate about. What what makes us different than any other wrestling that's on you're out that and he likes the mission the mission the mission sometimes is more more popular than any wrestler on our car bully knows all about the mission <hes> the vision of what this is and the fact that there can be something else on television there can be this alternative <hes> yeah so I think of it more as working with them <hes> than answering to them and they've been wonderful <hes> in this bill to the very? I did so in just over two months you debut on T._N._T.. And obviously you have all out in between the the events that you guys have put on so far have been really really great. You obviously have captured the hearts the minds the passion of fans in your opinion. What is the number one thing eighty? W needs to improve on immediately before you go on TV Tom who good question you've been doing so many things right but there has to be something that you know you have to improve approve on before. You put this show on T._V.. Every week and I don't know if you're comfortable answering. I'm just when you see so many things go right and yeah I can see it from far away. You guys have the sky's the limit but you know when you're back your minds. Aha maybe this one division or maybe this one way. We present our product. Here's where I feel. We need to tighten the screws just a little bit so what I would say is I would put all the pressure right back on the elite on me Matt Nick and Kenny and this is what I think we can do better. Is We always had the idea that if we hire you if we presented you in in the spotlight that we weren't going to micromanage because no one wants to be micromanaged and we've seen that dozen wrestling we want you to do what we know you can do but all all that said I think it's important that myself Nick Matt Kenny all all come and try our best to get with with every talent that's on that very first show and get with every talent that's on every show and talk with them and I know that sounds big but if I think of any of these great history booker's in history you know guys like Bill Watch for example you know I have a commerce in a standing conversation with Jim Ross every week. Sometimes we talk about wrestling. Sometimes we talk about tons of other stuff but we're still talking about wrestling that makes sense. I think it's good to give the guidance of we know and and help give them a push in in a certain way not a full outline not a full not a full script. Let them just give of course show I think it all falls back on Matt Nick and Kinney and that being a little bit more specific man Nick in how they deal with building the best tax division wrestling's Kenya Mega <hes> go with presenting one of the best women's division ever and he's been working with brandy on it and he's also brought over so the Joshi talent and been able to to bring them in in front of a United States audience who's already in love with them and then myself in this singles division and with a lot of the well we would refer to as tier one guys guys like Camara who are unknown. It's my job to to give a little bit of the wisdom that was given to me I had around me like demoing go and Arn Anderson and fricking dusty Rhodes already and I had all these people so now we have that opportunity to to help give them a little bit of the same thing that was given to me. I mean it's wrestling the the answer is simple. The one thing we can do better get back like was giving us code. I know you gotta run because shocker. You have another announcement to make at noon just sixty seconds. It's after we sign off a today show interest now. It's it's all right. I I understand I get it <hes> by cody honest to God. Thank you so much for the time we got to get you on when you have more time and I do want to leave you with just one thing before we say goodbye and I'm telling you this and you're gonNA look at bully. Ali Rei completely different after I tell you this. The man has never seen the movie big. Oh well mean bully Ray Aaron Same Company Company. I've never seen the movie big. Wow I love it. I believe apply love burial believable Jerry. I WanNa make sure you know McGregor. They got that I think starting this month Amtrak is running the deal where you can go directly from New York D._C.. So I am inviting both of you. The whole busted open team to join us in DC. It's a full destination not unlike anything we've done before so please. I'm extending the invites everyone in there in the office everyone near control room everyone there with the headsets on we'd love to see you know what cody I promise you busted. Open will be there on October October second addict capital one arena beautiful. I appreciate the time thank

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Ep. 235 - Why we can't let up

The Breakdown with Shaun King

15:40 min | 3 months ago

Ep. 235 - Why we can't let up

"With made a whole hell of a lot of progress over these past few days today to take some time to tell you where we are in the murder case of a motte. Aubrey give some real details on what's happened so far and then give us some action steps on. What's next appreciate your hard work? I so you walking a C. Running a you calling a you emailing. We've done a lot together over these past few weeks but we can't let up this is Shaun King and you're listening to the the the breakdown the breakdown during the break dabbler before we get started on an update today first and foremost I just WanNa say thank you to all of you who've worked so incredibly hard with us you have sent tens of millions of emails which just blows my mind. We had over one and a half million. People who signed are super petition. And what that means is when you sign the petition. It's not just a database that's created we mobilized you for action steps but then sends an email to all the power brokers and players on the case so thank all of you for sending the e-mails for making hundreds of thousands of phone calls. We've seen what we estimate now could be nearly half a million people who ran with. The Maude ran four Ahmad over the weekend on Friday Saturday Sunday and many of you are still running today and we're grateful for that thank you. We have seen progress and again I understand. And we understand. Having worked on these types of cases for years on end we understand that an arrest is not a conviction. We also understand that William Bryan. And we'll talk about him more in just a second. Who was an accomplice in this murder? We understand that he has not even been arrested yet. But I WANNA take a few minutes to talk about some of the progress that we've made because everything that we see happening is happening as a result of very clear action steps that we detailed not just of course for listeners of this podcast but for millions of people all over the world who've joined in so first and foremost as as we've talked about in disgust We see that Gregory and Travis McMichael have been arrested and they were also denied bond and going to continue to be held in jail on felony murder charges. And we understand the truth. Is it's probably safer for them to be in jail in protective custody than it is for them to be out of jail out in the streets like they were people saw them all over Brunswick and all over south Georgia. That's not really safe for the McMichael's and it's not really safe for people who are very angry right now. So it's it was the right decision to keep them there We just learned minutes ago. That the state of Georgia is going to appoint a special prosecutor. The Attorney General. Chris Carr of Georgia a Republican just appointed a black woman. Who was the district attorney of Cobb county joy at homes who was relatively recently appointed as district attorney of Cobb County is now going to become the special prosecutor in that case now? I know when people hear that the new special prosecutor is a Republican that that concerns them. Well everybody who's been on the case so far as Republican but I need to unpack that for a minute. I know hundreds if not thousands of horrible prosecutors who are Democrats being a Democrat does not necessarily make you righteous now. Being Republican also definitely does not make you rights but she is joy at homes is a significant upgrade over. Tom Durden the acting district. Attorney of the case Many of you may not know about I lived in Atlanta. For Twenty Years in Cobb County is is Atlanta it's Metro Atlanta and so that this prosecutor and her team will be in Atlanta. This is a black woman with a a black husband and black children Understanding the unique challenges and problems in issues Our team had real justice of. You may know I help. Lead an organization call Real Justice that elects district attorney's over the country. We've had volunteers in many of. You may be listening who went and met with joy at homes not about this case but to meet with her on other cases of injustice and they actually came away very impressed and they liked her and they came away with a lot of respectful things to say about her. She wasn't perfect. And that's not what will I've never met the perfect district attorney or the perfect human being but they came away feeling very good about their meeting with her. And we're not just going to blindly trust that. This is okay We will work to hold her accountable. I just spoke to the attorney for Amo`ds family Lee Merritt and they wanda and others are going to be meeting with joy at home soon and And I'm grateful because we fought for that it was one of our biggest action steps that this case desperately needed a special prosecutor. So here we are. I mean Yeah I mean would I have liked to have seen a hard hitting civil rights attorney appointed? Yeah absolutely but this is definitely an upgrade. And what I've learned in this work is sometimes you get one hundred percent of what you're asking for Sometimes you get ninety. Eighty seventy sixty. We ask for special prosecutor personally. My hope was that it was going to be someone in Atlanta. It is in Metro Atlanta I I think she could do a good job Many of you have said to me some things that I have thought and wondered myself are they are they using this woman. This black woman prosecutor as a cover to say listen. We appointed one of you to be the prosecutor. So this case fails it's on you. Listen I have no idea the games. They're playing all I know is that I have talked this morning to several people. Who Know her personally. They knew her when she was a judge and they respected are a great deal. And I'm going to give her a chance a but I'm still gonNA work to hold her accountable not only that but the state of Georgia also requested the Justice Department and I need to unpack something there. Because when we hear the Justice Department we think Donald Trump We think the Republican Conservative Attorney General. But the Justice Department actually has people who've been there hundreds and hundreds of staffers who've been there for decades under many different administrations and they requested that the Justice Department the Attorney General of Georgia requested that the Justice Department investigate the mishandling of this case. That was another major action. Step that we ask for for the federal government. Yes we know. There is a trump administration but there are many competent capable people inside of the Justice Department. No I don't have a whole lot of faith in the Justice Department but I need you to understand that I was walking and working with families who had their loved ones killed during the Obama Administration and the Justice Department did next to nothing and they regularly over promised and under delivered but we at least want the Justice Department to investigate this mishandling. And it's an opportunity for them to do right by this family. We're using every available outlet in mechanism. We have do. They always work. Well no is it as cut and dry as Republican and Democrat. No and I just need us to understand that every Democrats now woke every Democrat doesn't do the work for us that we need and in these positions right now are Republicans so we need them to do right. We can't demand that they do right then see that they are taking the steps. We ask them to take then say. Fm No we. We are going to see how this goes. We will hold them accountable every step of the way and they are doing the things that we have asked and demanded that they do. There are though two things that we're looking to happen and these I will save for now. Specific to the case are the two primary action steps that we want you to work on this week. So listen they are two major action steps that we're going to focus on this weekend. We've we're doing. We're making major progress. But what I know having done this before. Is that when you began to celebrate? If you have five action steps if you begin to celebrate victory one two and three which you should take a moment even just emotionally for yourself to say. Hey we did that. We fought for that we did that. That's progress but if you stay in celebration mode in let your guard down not only. Will you not get action step four and five accomplished? You won't get a conviction you won't get systemic change. We have to stay focused. And I'm asking everybody to stay emotionally invested in this case and in the pursuit of justice. We're not finished. We can't be finished. We're not done and we have so much more work to do. So I have two big action steps for you today. You're going to be able to go right now to run with MoD DOT com. If you have not already done this you can do it. And you're you'RE GONNA be able to call seven seven zero eight zero zero zero six eight nine we've had over one hundred thousand of you make this phone call but we have new targets in New People so if you call today it's it's not calling the same offices that had called yesterday. It's definitely not calling the same offices that it had on Friday and I'm going to be Giving you some new insight and direction on what you need to do when you call as well okay so go to run with Ma dot com and if you have not already filled out the petition fill that out. I get a feeling that most of you who are listening to this probably have but we've added New People in new targets and again. It's a super petition. So when you fill it out it emails so many people involved in the case but what we really need you to do today is call. Seven seven zero eight zero zero zero six eight nine and when you call here are the two action steps that we're taking i. We are still demanding that they arrest William Roddy Brian who boxed in an accessory to the murder of a model opry a just read moments ago. The police report from the day Ahmad was murdered. Where Gregory Mcmichael says that William Roddy? Brian was a full participant in the process that he chased and boxed in Ahmad on purpose. He wasn't just driving his car down the road he was there. They clearly strategize. And he clearly boxed Ahmad in who had nowhere to go at which Gregory and Travis McMichael with guns out then shoot and kill Ahmad Aubrey William Roddy. Brian should have been arrested the same day. That Travis Gregory McMichael was arrested and we were told that he would be from an inside source and we are now told that they are considering it. But that's not enough. He needs to be arrested. He participated in the felony murder. He participated in it had Ahmad headed another place to go another place to run. He would never have had to even be in the presence of Gregory and Travis McMichael. They need to arrest William Roddy. Brian and the second is this. We are calling for Jackie Johnson. The district attorney of Glenn County to be recalled removed. From office and disbarred. We've now had two different county commissioners there in Glenn County in your county you may not have county commissioners. You may have a city council. It's the equivalent of a city council to different members if you will of their city council or or county commission have now come forward on the record to say that police officers told them that the day Ahmad. Aubrey was murdered. That police were ready to arrest. Travis and Gregory McMichael and that they were waved off from doing that by Glenn. County District Attorney Jackie Johnson. And so when you call the number seven seven. Zero Eight. Zero zero zero six eight nine or go and fill out to petition. It's all about demanding that they finally arrest William Roddy. Brian and we're fighting now to get Jackie Johnson removed from office. We appreciate you. We need you. Keep on pushing fighting for justice. Keep spreading the word love and appreciate your hard work and we hope. I hope that you're proud of what you have helped accomplish so far. Take care of your body break down. Bring the bring the bring. The Great Britain break the break break break break break break break.

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Podcast Exclusive: WrestleMania I Main Event Watch Along

Busted Open

35:09 min | 4 months ago

Podcast Exclusive: WrestleMania I Main Event Watch Along

"Welcome to the busted open. Podcast this is the busted open. Podcast you can listen to the full show Monday through Saturday from nine. Am to noon eastern on Sirius. Xm Fight Nation General. One fifty six Go to the busted open. Podcasts exclusive content for the busted open nation so please subscribe and I have with me. Innovator of violence the landlord of the House of Hardcore Tommy Tommy. How are you man man? I missed here and that you've That you haven't brought at the whole corona virus thing so. I'm glad that you brought back. This is exclusive as well yes. This is extremely exclusive. Because we're doing for the busted open nation. The busted open podcasts. I hope everyone has subscribed and you know what we're going to do something completely different. We'd never done before the Uber fans on this show. We are going to go back and watch some of the greatest matches some of the greatest moments of all time. And we're going to do it along with the busted open nation. I don't have a name for it. Tommy maybe the nation can help you know tweet at us at busted open radio using the Hashtag busted open podcast. Maybe the nation can come up with the name. I think it's a great idea. I mean I. It's Kinda going to be like owned mystery. Science theater wrestling mystery science theater meets. Watch along each man you just talking about professional wrestling. I'm really looking forward to this. And since it's Wrestlemainia Week Tommy by the way. Don't forget to listen to our wrestlemanias special on Sunday from three to five PM eastern time. Me and bully ray again. Recap took place on Saturday and we're going to get you ready for what's taking place on Sunday so make sure to listen to that on Sirius. Xm fire nation one fifty six but Tommy since it is wrestlemainia week. I figured we'd go and see a match from the first ever Wrestlemainia back in one thousand nine hundred five man. March thirty first hours fourteen years old and I was there baby. I cannot wait to go back there. February twenty eighth where it was the match. Set it up in the wall or to settle the score and when you talk about electricity and you'd always hear gorilla monsoon talk about you could cut it with a knife. I was so excited when Mr T. was going to hop the guardrail and it was all during the holes captain Lou Albano Cindy Lauper the rock and wrestling connection was going on and I remember. That was the first time I started hitting my father like Dad. Mr T. here Oh my God I was hitting my father. Like Mr T. Is here that would be the equivalent to like the biggest celebrity on television? Mr T. was such a big deal and for him to be there at the event where I was sitting in my head and then like you know the angle that pursuit and if you think about how the times have changed. It was almost one month before they set up this super card where you think about now. The Royal Rumble Starts January all the way up to the end of March April. Will you know here comes Wrestlemainia? And it's wrestlemainia season but they literally had one month to go to promote their main event of this first ever show all right so I want you. I'M GONNA I'M GONNA quote my father said. Keep IT IN THE CONDOM. Because we've got a lot of information but we should do it along with the bus station. So we're not watching the entire first WRESTLEMAINIA WE'RE GONNA watch the main event so I need everybody that wants to watch along with us as we thought. You'll have to listen to Tommy and I talk but if you WANNA watch the main event of Wrestlemainia the first ever wrestlemainia along with us go to wwe network. And we're queuing it up. Tommy at one hour forty five minutes and six seconds. We couldn't make it simple one hour and forty five minutes and six seconds into the first ever wrestlemainia. You know what I'm talking about if you see liberace and the rockets in the rig so one forty five zero six. Wait for it. I'm GONNA else for the nation to find the exact particular point in the car for where we're GONNA talk about it so it's one forty five or six. Q it up and do you have acute up Tommy to one forty five zero six one hour minutes and six seconds of the virtual radio. I am ready. That's such a great random time. I love it. It's GonNa make it simpler one hour forty five minutes at six seconds so you gotta queued up so here. We go when I I'll tell you I'll countdown and I'll say play when I say play. That means hit play so five. Four three two one and play. And as I said there you see in the ring the great liberace. Who's The timekeeper for the match liberace dancing in the ring with the rockets? He is so happy he hasn't missed a step. What do you mean Dave? And I love the yellow fingers in the audience because Dusty Rhodes used to call Ho- cogan yellow finger because of those yellow fingers that you see those foam yellow fingers that a lot of audience you know oughta members of the audience have bought. Now you know the you were. Nwea guy. I was just a pro. You were the dad's liberace Doherty's Rhino Jack and look at them go nuclear Martin with Howard Finkel the special guest ring announcer. Now Dave you're in. Nwea guy. Yes I was a all out professional wrestling fan. You were what we make fun of today when there's the mix between eight. Wfan state you were that guy. You hated this despise them. To be honest I hated liberace being there. I loved Billy Martin being there because he was a beloved. You Know York Yankee The palm we understand it now as we get older why the wwe. E and Vince McMahon. Put this all together and I know from stories that Shane. Mcmahon has shared with me of and they said this publicly. If this event wasn't success here comes. The greatest is His name Spelt Wrong Muhammad Ali. No I think that spells name I think yeah I'm pretty sure you M.'s. And this is also the massive square garden network who some random fan that ran into the ring. They thought it was Sammy. Hagar but I digress. But they did all this because liberace the same like we're talking about GRONK GRONK will get more is on the product or last year. It was you know what Rhonda Rousey and all that stuff wanted to use these mainstream celebrities to try to get you know people watching this on this thing. This new thing called pay per view that is the New York State. Athletic Commission boxer. He was the he was the guy who ran at Man. He used to have to go get his license for him. I forgot his name. I'm not listen to the volume dammit. He was a good dude. Man Me and my father used go because to be a wrestler New York Jewish to have to go down to New York City and get cardiogram and get an actual physical from their doctor to allow you to be a wrestler. Wow so all right so So we have Muhammad Ali and the story is that Muhammad Ali Pat Patterson referee. Muhammed Ali is referee outside the ring and it turns out that they just didn't trust Muhammad Ali to be the referee so they brought in Pat Patterson to actually be referee for the match. And it's amazing that they didn't trust Mohammed Ali who had matches already. I mean what would you do go into business for himself? Knockout Hogan which would have been and here comes a Rowdy Roddy Piper and Paul warned door of an ace cowboy Bob Orton. They're going to be coming down down the aisle into the ring in just a moment. But you asked me about that. I was an Nwea guy this this wrestlemainia first of all. I think you would agree. Tommy there would be no wrestlemainia without hoke. Amini I mean. Hulkamania was all the rage at this time. So this was kind of a playoff holcomb mania wrestlemainia. If you talk about or if you asked Roddy Piper Roddy Piper would always say yes. Hulkamania was it but did people pay to see hot. Roddy Piper get his ass kicked by Hulkamania. That's a big question that live throughout the ages in professional wrestling in Piper was convinced but wasn't for him there would have been no wrestlemainia. And if you think about it he was the heat. He was the heater from what he did last month to Captain Lou. Albano what he did to you. Know all those promos what he did to Cindy lauper it. Was You know we were? I know I was paying to see Hulk Hogan kick his ass. You can't just like any great movie any great book anything to Have Great. Baby Fae Superhero. You need a great villain and Roddy Piper was Dave we're not doing audio. I mean we're doing audio but we're not doing video as well are we doing. We're I believe we're doing audio and video. I think I could be wrong. Mother Teresa would have to tell us. Icu But oh look. You've got the hot rod t shirt on all this one out of the closet. It makes my man. Boobs look super big. But I don't care for Roddy Piper Glove and we're actually just doing. We're just doing audio but I but I had to say video because I knew you had something special so I just play. I just worked you there but you make you make you more shirts. Turn look this place up. I don't even have the volume on. Look at this place pop. I was part of electricity. If there wasn't for me they would have had. What was it one thousand nine thousand eight hundred twenty something like that? There's one or two sure. Now you forget because Jimmy superfly SNUKA WAS WITH MR T. And Hulk Hogan in this match and boy. This is really the started. The decline of Jimmy superfly snuka because months before this he was in the feud with rowdy. Roddy Piper Yeah and when you talk about not trusting someone. That's why emits match. They took out snooker. And I believe Mr T. was supposed to be it was supposed to be Hogan and Mr T. or in Some places have said it was supposed to be Jimmy. Snuka and Mr T. but I don't think that holds true but Jimmy got demoted down the card because of he was unreliable and which sucks because it would. It would have changed the face of wrestling history. Yeah think about that. That's crazy now earlier. You asked about you know I was in. Nwea guy. And I wasn't crazy about this first wrestlemainia because Bill Maher in an liberace in all the superstars and everything else you know. Wrestlemania WHIZ. Wwf answer to star Cade Star. Cade was I and this was kind of their answer to that Super Card that was star Cave for the Nwea but this was truly the beginning of sports entertainment as instead of the old school pro wrestling. Yup and Damon. I gotta get back to that question. What you talk about this. I'm getting goosebumps and I don't need to tap on my arm like the rock does because I haven't seen this. Probably since maybe one thousand nine hundred eighty six first of all. I'm laughing at the old man with the broom in the left corner sweeping debris because if that happened today Vince McMahon would have that man removed as quick as could be. Of course. Paul orndorff just took this old man's broke Alma. God He broke his groom. And now the old man is like like he just sulks because now he's got no br. I guess he figures my days over now. I don't have a broom. The work with that. That is a union worker at Madison Square Garden. Ladies and gentlemen. Oh now this is what you hate it you and I did too man. I didn't think you know as wrestling fans we don't liberace should serve no purpose and I believe he has a little tingle bell that he will ring cert- shortly if I didn't see any of this because I remember having to go back and watch it because I was pretty high up. There was no screen. You just watch it as it was happening. Look at act. Body of Poland are my God. He was an amazing shape. Hogan and Mr Teague gone up against Rowdy Roddy Piper Paul orndorff. Jimmy snuck in the corner of Hogan. And Mr T. and ACE BOB or in the corner of Roddy Piper and Paul orndorff and this is old school too in the fact that in they probably changed it on the wwe network but when Hogan came to the ring it wasn't real American. It was either Tiger Tiger baby. I remember me the Tinkle Bell. Say Tell Ya Ya liberace. I also saw a bill after a Georgia Palestinian. Look at how everybody is just packed and jammed in. Have you ever been into the garden when you were a younger? No I go into New York would be like going to Tokyo. They never they never wanted a venture at the New York City so all the wrestling that I saw in Jersey William Paterson College the meadowlands. Of course it was. It honestly wasn't until I was in high school that I I went to see wrestling at Madison Square Garden. My father when he would take me to events he was kind of like the father of the goldbergs. It would be like if we're watching the hockey game at the end of the second period as a kid we gotta go home. We gotta be traffic and I know I WANNA see the third quarter or you know. We leave after the seventh inning. Stretch of a baseball game was way my father would let I would never leave this event. I was glued to this. I also I would like to tell you that I wore Would be the equivalent to mom jeans back then and my hope. I had Australia Polka mania shirt brother. I was so out. You are my. My father didn't like wrestling at all. But the first time he took me Hogan was going up against Dr David Schultz and my father actually jumped to his feet when Hogan's music star playing with Itt Dun Dun Dun Dun. He got out his feet. Who's get into it? I was so proud of my dad when he first got into. Because I knew he wasn't a Fan. I think he became a fan that night watch. We'll look at this. This is such a big fight feel. This is a big fight boxing. Ufc and the intensity that Piper has and this is with an untrained wrestler. Mr T. he's not a russell. He's an actor stuntman. We'd think of this now because you mentioned it first of all look at the time. It's three zero seven in the afternoon. The main event is taking place at three o'clock in the afternoon. But this would never ever happen today like that pop that you heard would never happen for a couple of reasons. One people would have their cell phones out taking video. They wouldn't be jumping up and down screaming and yelling because they want to take video on their cell phones and the other thing. The crowd would be split because everybody was behind. Hogan and MR T. But if this was taking place today the there would be as many fans rooting for Piper as they were for Hogan. Yeah no the build up to this to first of all shape Roddy Piper and man he is jacked and I remember they would do all these vignettes and they only had you know a month really And they were training at Mid City. Jim and then member Hulk and Mr T. were were training in Venice beach and they were doing like all these different workout misty by the way does not know how to lock up but it didn't matter it didn't matter back then to the 'cause you know when we say we were spoiled as wrestling fans of everything in this point is real and it is real mystique. Oh what he's doing. Yeah and Roddy. Piper was exactly. You're going to give any kind of popcorn punches. Mr T. either How but delete up to this match. Because he talked about how big this was. How mainstream WRESTLEMAINIA was leading up to. This is that infamous Spot with Richard Belts or when WH- when bells are when Mr T. And Hogan were guest and and Hogan put put Richard Belcher in the sleeper. Hold any any conked out. Let them go and cracked opened his head. Do you remember that you and this was also on Saturday hosted Saturday night. Live with Billy Crystal and they had that awesome segment with you. Look Marvelous by the way Jimmy. Snuka just went to the top rope. I think he thought it was the finish already. And Mohammed Ali. Get in the ring. It broke down. But you know honestly. It's as simple as this where I and I'm not saying they probably called a lot of stuff. There's Billy Martin he don't care Egypt happy He's hammered this chaos and the everybody is standing around. There's not one person their seats. I was one of them all such. He'll he piper lieven. Dare you do that? You have to referees and neither one of trying to count Roddy Piper out by the way we learn how to do is with audio because then we wouldn't your audio Danielle Maricic and bring up mother. Marissa's WHO's running the board for this show. She could bring up the audio whenever we wanted to now. This is our pilot episode. These are only gonNA get better. I just I can feel it. I'll probably go back and watch this now just to feel the electricity and also too you can use hashtag busted open podcast at open radio for anything more that you want to hear when we do these things to do. You want us to do more calling of the match. Do you want more stories. We listened to the bus open opened. Nation here Tommy. The nation should say what matches they want us to watch. Ooh I think it ad genius you are. I can produce some stuff as well even though we got the greatest producer of all time. Mother Marissa. There that's right here. We go breaking down for two referees yet should be breaking down but it is pat. Patterson doesn't Care Muhammad Ali is lost and I don't think Mohammed Ali right now is looking at the ring. He's probably calling. A Gimmick could get over here we're going to sell job Do you know the only two wrestlers that ever were at Wrestlemainia one and made it to Wrestlemainia as fans you This the only. There's only two right all right. I'm GonNa Guess these gases you and Nunzio you got it. You made it Wrestlemainia twenty which was At Madison Square Garden. And he said it was the happy ever was because his dad who took him to this show and then he got to see his son performance wrestlemainia which is cool. Nice hip toss. That's it actually. You Know Mrs Taylor Looks Pretty Good. Body slammed by Mr Day. We just saw a hip toss array. Cady is on Paul Orndorff. Paul orndorff could sell to. Jeez LOUISE WELL I. Also I don't know why Mr T. who looks again in phenomenal shape. He's blown up and his underwear is showing locale blown up. He is already on the corner. He's he's he's he's always dad. All my gosh. He is so grown to get all. What a bump. The only other person who goes over the back of the way that way is Adrian. Adonis though it's so hard to do that bump nowadays because the roads are so Tight looseness of the ropes but going over backwards like that. You know a lot of guys kinda turned to the side But the the Lusa ropes you and do that. There's somebody's jacket. Yeah that's the other thing. To look at the rain around ringside our our ringside. There's nothing around ringside. All these photographers just random. People police officers like it's it's like Penn station around ringside throwing. Looks like a mosh pit and that's how it should be. There is so many photographers. Muhammad Ali getting involved there. He's there were so many hours. So many extras so many. I mean if you even if you watched going to the ring. All the wrestlers were standing even saw the iron sheik wearing a do rag literally watching the show. And if you follow Brian Goertz that he was the head writer for raw longtime on he wrote a Monday night raw. He particularly did in entranceway old school. Just like that because he saw this Wrestlemainia as a Kid. So he copied that in one of the wrestlemainia matches that were at Wrestlemainia. I'm used to like a lot of photographers that you don't normally see at a wrestling event. Because this was. This was big like we talked before. This was mainstream. Patterson's getting physical with Mr Day. This is crazy. I for two referees. That don't know how to referee. Can we get into real referee in this match? Please but it they talk about eighty w how? Aws doesn't respect the ten second or two five second rule. Look at this is awful. Pat Patterson is refereeing the referee of mohammad-ali the resume. It's a referee. He's telling him to get out of the ring. Meanwhile if Mr T. could ask for oxygen I think he would look at him. He is completely blown up. This is amazing and please pull up your pants. Mr T. come on you're on television. He is so blown up. He doesn't care that he's showing his underwear wearing tidy. Whyte's the first sign if you are a wrestler and the person on the apron is blown up is exactly how Mr T. Leans ropes right now at when you go to wrestling training when you are tired of me and bully ray dude at our you know at at team. Three D Academy when guys get off the ropes get off the ropes. One because of a guy hits the rope. She'll go flying and two it. Just you having a stand there when you're winded is actually helping you get conditioning because of situations like that and we always say what if main event of Wrestlemainia would you be sucking wind like that. I mean you would agree though. Tommy that most people bought a ticket bought a ticket to see this main event. Like you know unlike other wrestlemanias there are some like you know there was some enhancement talent so to speak on this card. You know there was definitely an undercard for the first ever Wrestlemainia. Oh Man King Kong Bundy. St Jones Ricky steamboat versus Matt born. what's his name Tito Santana versus the executioner. Who was playboy? Buddy rose and I totally forgot because I went looked up the results. Brutus beefcake wrestled David Sammartino on this with Bruno in his corner. That's I wow. I completely forgot about that. David Tino I think it was gone from the WWF. About six months after the first wrestlemainia top rope high rent district using the tag ropes. Ladies and gentlemen I love the Tagore's courses balling because he can't even stand over here in a little bit of Jesse the body but to wait a second. That's an illegal tag Tommy to that was your you have to be over the top rope. You can make a tag through the ropes like that. Okay Dave to be equivalent. If you were in Hulk Hogan's partner come on now for wonderful. Paul who did have the tag rope is now getting a wedgie. Look at him. He cannot really can't even stand up at this point and he when you talk about conditioning you talk about you we we all see. Mr T. is probably number one really fighting with Paul Orndorff. Any also has no wind and he's done nothing. And when you talk about excitement and energy and blow your mind will blow you up quicker than your body because Mr T. really hasn't done a lot and I'm telling you bully and I always talk about this. Like about calmed down your because your mind will get racing and then you have no more gas less than you. And we're seeing this where he can. Paul orndorff with that body physically cannot pick up Mr Teague and Mohammed Ali's blocking the heart camera. If this happened today Vince would probably go out and fight. Mom and I'll be leaving. This must have been ecstatic at this point that he knew what a hit. This show was before it was even over well like I said before. I know like talking with Shane. It was like our family. And they've documented this on Wrestlemainia. They put their entire. They remortgaged their home. I remember Shane. Tell me like you members Doing Flyers and posters with his father and like they knew if this didn't hit the WWE was out of business by the way Mr T. Did nothing and tag back in Hogan because he can't look at him he literally just laid on the on the Mat. Face I or using a front face lock where Piper was probably telling him to breathe and then probably said go. Make the TAG. Because you're doing look at him. He's as for those who are watching along with us. Mr T. is on his knees outside. The ring on the ring is doing up. You go right now and we're hearing like mother. Mercer turned up the volume for a second year here. I forgot that it was Jesse. Ventura and gorilla monsoon doing the commentating because it was normally for these shows on home. Patterson and gorilla monsoon patrons the referee. We're going home. Jimmy Snuka jumped in early. Your comes boom. I get up Marissa. Turn up the volume on Jimmy in the ring. It absolutely nothing to help anybody. Well honest Jimmy. Snuka ran in the ring and headbutted Bob Morton and then got thrown out which did not thing. He blew his spot or he came in just too early he was supposed to or deliver that. And then Bob Us snuck gets rid of him with to freeze totally out of control. Oh Oh Pat Patterson just go sucker padres Roddy Piper to keep his rowdy Roddy Piper attack user. And if you remember the aftermath of this was Paul Orndorff then turned on Roddy Piper. Wise Mr T. caring about poll orndorff right now. Because he's just a gentleman. He's a sportsman started. 'cause this started the story time this is where you started. These are certain little drops of the evidence that he was gonNA turn baby face now if you think about look at that guy right there and his body how he went from top. He'll top baby-faced back to kill him and Roddy Piper never held the WW e heavyweight title. I don't even know I'm trying to think Poland have never held any title in the wwe. No he was never an intercontinental champion or anything like that happen and what? An amazing wrestler doesn't know what's gone and by the way this is the end of the show for the crowd and everyone was happy. Mr T. literally did nothing. I think that was a worst performance than I mean. Lawrence Taylor by far blew him away but also tells you how great of a worker Bam Bam bigelow us because that was the last time I guess after this. We saw another celebrity. Enter and have a match like that. He know. What's crazy is that you just mentioned. This is the end of the show number. One you mentioned about Mr T. One thing that Mr T. did do though is set up that story with Paul Orndorff by helping him up off the mat so that was the one. Good thing Mr T. did in this match and the other thing you're talking about the show is over to. This is the last batches is the main event wrestlemanias over. Not One person in the crowd is leaving now. I want to see Hogan pose. I also remember this being on the eleven o'clock news across the board on all this one wolf always did New York on. I believe he was. Cbs But every channel had this and then in the newspaper it was the next day too and it was. You know pitchers they would just do results. But it was pitchers. And that's the vision. Because look at it. You have liberace. Muhammad Ali Billy Martin all in the RING WITH MR T. And it's all these mainstream stars Surrounded by these crazy pro wrestlers yet mister. You did nothing lie. Did I love you so much? I have a picture of me and Mr T. hang on it's right behind me you really now Mr Tay come on now Tommy Dreamer look at that you got you. GotTa Post that on social media when we when this when we dropped this one for the for the nation because they got to see that. That's amazing cat. And so you are unbelievable. Dry keeping displayed. I'm very very proud when I used to love. District has doll and his performance was horrible. I don't remember how bad he was. Yeah you did. Nothing surprising vomit on him showing. The answer like here comes the finished. Pats distracted the referee dozen. See this. It's with the case that the cast which what which just happened one month earlier. Jimmy broke Bob Morton Czar. That's right that's right born in the back of the neck and Bob Warns Arm did not heal for at least seven eight years. Yeah I mean it's it it was. It was a terrible terrible break another view. Think of how this is how wrestlemanias ending with instant replays a VAT. Oh this is the best it's so simplistic in its form and this is why I love it but here we are. The the match ended five minutes ago. Tommy and still no one has left. Hogan and Mr T. are leaving the building. Okay and and still not one person is left Madison Square Garden. That's over you know you talk about some of the most popular now. They're finally starting to to to venture out a little bit. Now that there's nobody in the ring it's crazy. How big this was. There's me Gene Oakland interviewing OKO GIN AND MR T. After a big victory of the first ever Wrestlemainia Jimmy superfly SNUKA saying brother. Being Gino Kalin was Mr. He's Potsy by his entourage in the back. By the way we also saw a clip. He was a guy who helped. Bring hyper back. That's rich herring. He was part of the ww he was he was then after that one guy we pointed out he became the president of the New York State Athletic Commission and then right after it. Kinda got decommissioned. He he still works. Deputy Great Guy and he does. He handles a lot of The W business. I love rich and I couldn't believe I seen him. I haven't seen them in years while in. This is really wild. Seeing all them being interviewed by the late. Great Mean Jean Oakland's Wwe Hall of Famer. But you know what too when you look at this. You knew there was gonna be a second WRESTLEMAINIA. I didn't think we'd be now getting ready for wrestlemainia thirty six. But it's just amazing how everything grew from this one night. It's unbelievable absolutely and Jimmy Snuka. Whatever he saying we won't make any sense but that's Jimmy and Phenomenal went when you again the wwe was built upon this. It was successful. They try to go bigger the next year when they did the three different places though they were sold out it wasn't perceived as well and then what happened after this was wrestlemainia three and then it was off to the races but I mean could you imagine if this event did not happen we would we w would be out of business and we'll be entirely different business. Look at this hour ending a pay per view with a recap of girl Monsoonal Jesse Ventura normally. It's it's million dollars worth of PYRO denied everybody A Nice glory shot of whoever's The champion and man as times changed now this is ending just like any normal Madison Square Garden Card would end for the WWF. At the time. I mean it's not that much different. I mean you're the guy who pull order broke his group just walking around at the back because he has no. He's using his foot to hype up the ring that is that's a fitting image to end the first ever. Wrestlemainia is that the guy whose room was broken is using his foot as sweeper to clean up the ring at the end of the show. Tommy this was absolutely phenomenal. Opioid fun doing love it. This is a great idea. Thank you everybody for listening. I hope you can enjoy this pure lunacy like me David because it made me a fourteen year old boy and maybe appreciate and love professional wrestling all over again and don't forget wrestlemainia thirty six this weekend. We are going to be the air covering it like a blanket. We're going beyond from three to five on Sunday with our wrestlemanias show. Recap of what took place on Saturday getting you ready for what's taking place on Sunday. Don't forget subscribe to busted open podcast and follow us at busted open. Radio used the HASHTAG busted open. Podcast tell us what you felt about this episode. And then tell us what you want and what matches a moment. You'd like Tommy and I to talk about. This has been a lot of fun time. He thanks so much my friend. All right talk to everybody on the next episode of the busted open podcast. Thanks for listening catches Monday through Saturday. Busted open from nine. Am to noon eastern on Siriusxm Channel. Fifty six the busted open odd cast.

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Howards Thank You Song to Beth Gets Remixed and Covered  The Howard Stern Show

The Howard Stern Show

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Howards Thank You Song to Beth Gets Remixed and Covered The Howard Stern Show

"Stern show here's a person. I don't have this person's name but they took my vocals and remix them into an EDM. Song I gotTa Tell You. Oh I'm not a real fan of Edm but see what you think. The perfect by she loves clorox. Wine live with It is like a dreamed cheaper. Tax Me from Cova nineteen shake. Leaves are half crop. Jelly assured she makes me say warranty. See Mister clean as I hear the Swedes sound of tax. Adm Rob a huge fan of. But I did like the auto tunes car you like that. Another couple reelection come from Canada. Roddy and Jesse did a coffee house style. Version of this song. And I'll play you a little bit of their cover. Here it is she loves clorox with bed she protects me from ovarian soclean's that does the GOP. Todd Call US Cute Bird. Spare you go. How do you like? That is Roddy on Coffee House. But I believe they're already playing so they're calling it. My let it be stern.

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233 Democratizing Research is Product Management

This is Product Management

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233 Democratizing Research is Product Management

"This is product management we feature the brightest minds across numerous disciplines that fuel modern product teams. Join over fifteen thousand weekly listeners. To learn from product leaders authors and founders from companies such as spotify under armor. INTUIT striped bass can't and AIRBNB. They'll share their insights and best practices for experimentation user research leadership corporate innovation and more to receive updates on the latest episodes subscribe to our newsletter at this product management. It's DOT com. Hey I'm your host Mike Fish by welcome back on this episode speaking with Miss from co-founder wondering VP of product at Alpha Roddy Knowles vp of research in customer success at Alpha and Alexa sole product manager at Alpha. They'll discuss how Alpha built organizational strategy around data democratization and how product teams insights professionals can co create the future state of research. This is product management is produced by Alpha the world's leading companies use Alpha's on-demand user insights platform to make data driven decisions about users products and new markets request a demo at Alpha. HQ DOT COM SLASH T. I P M. I'm nist from on the CO founder and BP product Alpha and incites platform used by agile teams at the world's best and largest brands including into it northwestern Mutual Humana and many others started business about five years ago with the objective of empowering agile teams make data driven decisions as listeners. Well no virtually the only form of research that existed back then was highly customized indepth apps and while it was informative often couldn't be delivered at the speed by which product agile teams have to make certain decisions so back then I was actually working with you. Mike on`developing thought leadership and industry resources like this podcast and are medium publication because we knew that before we build a platform to rapidly deliver insights. We actually really had to educate the market on why speed to insight would be the competitive advantage of the future and thanks again to this podcast. Millions millions of listens later. We've really Lee helped transform the industry in that way and now I've shifted my focus to our rnd and enabling our customers to scale agile research and decision making across their organizations. She's using our platform. My name is Alexa. I'm a product manager at Alpha I've actually been. PM Now for two years actually actually started off at Alpha and more the operations role before I moved into product through that experience was able to get really familiar with all the manual and more productized productized steps that it would take to actually go using Alpha platform off more customers entering in plain English questions or assumptions. And actually on on the back end turning those into actionable insights as a little you this from my background which is more focused around qualitative research in psychology actually starting my career focusing focusing on studying how individuals with either mental or physical disabilities? I was studying how they performed day-to-day tasks within their various as environments and understood what it meant for them to be successful from that analysis in that study I ended up working a lot with industrial design students to help inform what would be. Maybe I just adaptive environments should make different. People with different levels of disabilities are just normal. People with functioning abilities able able to be successful in the environment that they're in this Kinda felt within the universal designs sector from healthcare and education ended up moving into technology leveraging those Same skills of analysis of how people use different tools to figure out what problems are definitely worth solving in different ways to solve them with a corresponding people. I'm running all's. IBP Research and customer success here at Alpha in my role is really delivering exceptional value to our customers. In focusing badly Lee markings that do that in one of the ways that we do I think is relevant to our topic today. Jillian racing research best practices and then enabling our customers to conduct research official Mike and once we start working with customers are really you know. My team is focused on allowing resources scale within organizations and really you know being a research partner her in enabling research to be conducted by both researchers and non researchers alight. I also ensuring that you know not only that we're partnering with our customers that also that research is partnering with other parts of the puppies and other stakeholders nature research really be used to its value. Then we're GONNA stations. Alpha is an on demand insights platform giving companies the ability to go from data to insight to intelligence this who co-founded Alpha leads the product team. Cheap Roddy who joined a few months ago overseas Alvis research operations and customer success teams Alexa. WHO started at the company and operations is one on a four product managers on the team? What industry trends and challenges are insights leaders in companies facing today that necessitates tools like alpha? So I think for years since we started the business. We've heard this buzz around data democratization democratizing research democratizing insights and largely largely. It's been like elusive aspiration for a lot of organizations but I think in the last year we really started to take shape you starting to see organizations like Walmart. Microsoft yourself kind of reinvent themselves learning organization empowering decision makers anyone throughout the organization of customer centric to be customer driven and to really make informed decisions. It's helpful here to take a step back and really understand what's driving this change. Wide Organizations wanted democratize research. What what is the value of doing so taking a step back? There's something we can all agree on here. All your listeners can probably agree with as well which is that every every industry looks really different than it did. A year ago and fundamentally different than it did ten years ago customers are different. The behaviors are different the preferences these are different. We often talk. I know you talk a lot on this podcast about customer. Expectations are always increasing. Always rising always changing and I think the pace at which that is happening is accelerating and that pace of change in that pace of preference and behavioral change really is forcing organizations the businesses and business leaders to really rethink their strategy. So what are we talking about here is about two decades ago leaders at IBM developed felt what they call. The Framework Heaven is Welsh for Habitat. And what they came up with. Is that if you understand your habitat if you understand the environment you're in an and what's changing. You should actually develop your strategy from there to adapt to that environment. And so they and their the book in their thought leadership resources kind of had a few different habitats they described described but two. I think are important for here. A complicated system is rational and predictable. There's a relationship between cause and effect so it may be very difficult to operate but there is a direct relationship between causing effects so the complicated world the industrial world and the analog world was very very much complicated right. There were capital costs and physical resources that adobe leverage to build any product. So if you wanted to build a car you how to build a factory and there were a lot of moving parts factory and you had to be a scientist. NFL understand physics to actually build the car and put everyone on the assembly assembly line and get it right. It's very complicated. I personally could not do is not something I would be stronger adept at doing but it is clearly possible to do if you build an assembly line and the last step is painting a car blew at the end. You'RE GONNA have a blue car. You're not gonNA suddenly one day have a red car. There's thousands of moving parts. It's complicated looking from the outside. You may not fully understand it but there is a system to it and it's rational counter that with his world in which preferences are so quickly changing and there isn't a direct relationship between cause and effect you actually have to do trial and error to figure out what the outcome's going to be. It's not predictable outcome. These IBM leaders described that complex. Where there's not a relationship so I would use the example here of what happens when you're a three hundred year old financial services of and banking institution and three thousand miles away across the country? A Technology Company. That's really really had anything to do with financial services. Percents comes out with a credit card so apple a few months ago introduce a credit card with a whole new set of futures. That consumers hadn't really demanded before but what immediately decided they wanted. So for example apple announced that with their credit card the moment you make a transaction. You'll be able to check the APP and you'll be able to see in real time where you made that transaction transaction what business that transaction from and what category it was whereas as we all know when you log into your banking portal and you see your list of transactions it's total title gibberish. We don't even know what half of it corresponds to. You can take a taxi every day New York and would show up as a different line item every time you purchase it in your credit transactions along with same day reimbursements for cashback apple introduced a lot of innovations in this space. So how is a bank. Are you supposed to react to this. Are you supposed to come out with a credit credit card with the same thing. These sort of industry changes in customer preferences create ripple effects in real time. And there's no way to react if you you don't scale trial and error in real time and so I think that's really fundamentally what democratizing research is all about it's recognition that the world is moving really fast and the the only way to compete is to enable your teams to react and adapt really fast as well and so what we're seeing is is the proliferation of tools and technologies and techniques. That make it possible call for any decision maker within an organization to inform decisions in real time and course correct as needed. The world has gone from complicated. Too Complex. Companies Needing to adapt to the rapid pace of change have adopted new tools and technology. Jio Help scale data and insights gathering making it possible for any decision maker in an organization to access actionable data when they need it. In rotties opinion. How are these new insights gathering techniques affected the research industry which is historically prioritized statistical rigor as opposed to speed its impact impacted in a number of different ways? As mentioned the world is moving a lot faster the needs for data are moving a lot faster. The ways in research teams need to operate at really changed changed a lot. Sort of notion of sort of you know better faster. Cheaper has always been around. That's the trend in the last few years for sure and it keeps is being you know more and more about speed. I honestly want to research teams have had trouble adapting because some of the research tools in our tool kit to haven't really been meant for st eat so you've seen some certain things fall away. New Scene. For example you know ran trackers things like that on the decline brand trackers in a long staple of market research. And there's there's a lot of value in a brand tracker for example but those aren't necessarily capturing things quickly enough in ways that can impact the business and so research teams and how to really think about. What new tools can they adapt really getting data and ultimately end sites or quickly one of the challenges that research teams of face have been sort of you know supporting product teams in the NCAA supporting other teams within an organization? Really you know a cadence that makes sense for them and I think one of the ways where researchers struggle. Oh but I think is getting better. It is leading the perfect the enemy of good so saying we need to conduct research in a way. That is a perfect and precise and meets all needs needs to go through ten rounds of review and make sure the samplings absolute perfect and everything needs to be spot on which fine grade. Okay in some ways when the data doesn't get to you quickly enough to make an impact in and that becomes a real problem teams have started to realize that we've seen a move towards agile research. A word of doing research at at off. I think is is truly agile. Agile and research sometimes just needs running a couple of studies more quickly than we do and we have seen that that sort of move towards being faster but also you know the need for sort of standardization in doing that as well. So we're GONNA do something we're going to need to do it over again. We need to do it quickly. We need to agree on how we're going to approach things like that. So not every research engagement needs to be unique snowflake because when it is that tends to take a lot of time and so we've seen maybe some of the only one way to think about it sort of originality originally in research that everything needs to be sort of follow way. Also you know the integrity of the research that stiffening the speed become more important speed something different to research teams than it does to. Non Research teams the current conundrum. How do you balance regardless speed in an agile environment with with the peace of mind that people won't make decisions based on flawed data when confronted with the speed verse Rigor Debate? How does Rodney suggests research and product teams approach collaboration? Listen I think that in terms of giving advice to researchers who work with product teams have sort of lived. Breathed this for a while and I think the biggest thing I would say. It's an understand that the needs of product teams are oftentimes different than other stakeholders within an organization. And think you need to understand you know how product teams work work your product team this agile. which most are what does it actually mean a you know what is rationing? What is constant testing? It means that you know we're not trying undefined. This one answer make business decision off of it which can be what market research is but it. It's about you know constant learning. It's about constant testing and it's but also about direction and so I think it's an interesting thing you know. They market research sentences. It's a negative thing to say something as Mary Directional. The these insights are merely directional when you're working with product teams. You're working with really trying to be agile pointing someone in a right direction. There is no one right direction. You're constantly sort of moving and ebbing and flowing so this sort of you know constant direction something a lot of researchers have to grapple with someone so you can be a bit of a mindset shift you know when you're trying to work and collaborate with with product team so that'd be one thank is ready to start understanding that the needs are different in a new sort of sometimes. Shift your mind to think about this. The second thing that I would say is to teach product owners anyone on on a product team. Teach them the fish rather than just go fish for them. It's easy thing to do is to do research for somebody because you know that sort of is your job as an insights professional professional right and I. I've I've struggled with a little bit of this. Historically you know it's easy to say. Hey you know what you need to do you need to be going out and doing more qualitative work you need to be going into your customers directly. I might have experienced as a qualitative researcher. Let me go ahead and run those sessions. I think that's fine. But you need to ultimately cheech empower them because they need to be the people that interacting directly with their customers or users or potential customers and so being able to sort of you know lay the groundwork for what they're doing and teach them so. Eventually you can step away from that so I think you know. That's one sort of you know trapped you can fall into which is worth being up being cognizant of other things related to that is empowering people on the product team to conduct their own research and I think this is a little bit tricky. This is one of the tensions Democratizing research and democratizing data is. What happens if you let someone who's not a trained research or actually conduct research? All of a sudden everything goes to hell I'll maybe it does. Maybe a dozen you know. I think if you're actually smart about teaching those teams and determine the types of research they could and should be conducting. Then let them do it this reason why we've seen a rise in DIY. He I Y in in market research and I say everything hasn't gone to hell. It's actually. Everything's pretty much been okay. I'M NOT GONNA. I'm not saying that your product should be about Xining the segmentation study but for the type of work that they need to do. It's about empowering that team could be the use of templates or the use of a standardized approach could be your team creating something and you simply in reviewing it are signing off on it but in terms of just sort of bandwidth making sure that you can support those teams and also making sure that type of research you want to do can scale. You could be nimble enough to support them again. Empowering those those teams really truly democratising things not necessarily the instinct of some researchers because it's instinct to sort of be the protective. When do things the way that I want to do them? Because I've been trained to do them that way but ultimately you gotta let go of that a little bit we can actually support product teams in a way that makes sense for them and make sense the business two rotties point. This is pretty Meta because it shows how quickly our industry has changed but I remember years ago when product teams teams would by Alpha now occasionally here and there would get an email from their insight. Stakeholder saying you're giving data directly to to decision makers like what are you crazy. They don't know how to make decisions with data today. I think just how recently Alexa did some customer interviews and we printed the quotes and we put them on the walls. It was with regard to the pilot testing and we had of course you had the product manager gives the more predictable quote like you know. I really liked templates because it's preapproved. It's prevented I don't know how to the right questions myself. I don't necessarily know how to do customer interview but I can recognize when there are good questions and I appreciate that. I don't have to defend them afterwards. Like this was prevented and what was more surprising. Was the feedback from the consumer insights stakeholder which was actually held. This gave peace of mind. She actually didn't WANNA run. Every customer interview herself she wanted wanted to just approve the temp and provision it out to those products and it's just such a fundamental shift from a few years ago. When that was a few back we were getting I really? I do think that is the future of experimentation is just long having that consistent flow of user feedback data points. That's just step one right. Just making data informed decisions is going to be the baseline going forward. But how do you think about communicating in rationalizing. Those decisions that you've made and how do you make the case across your organization Shannon. I think it's a really interesting. Finding that we're learning about is how different metrics in different ways of collecting data not only changes across organization but inside organizations innovations and how that changes depending on the team that you're on. How do you rationalize what the success metrics or revenue team is as compared to an engineering team? So I really do think that kind kind of thinking about this whole theme Experiment Titian and Standardization is guiding US toward you know. How do you ensure that you're collaborating effectively? How do you ensure you're that you're talking about that Organization's success metrics in. How often should you revisit those success metrics? I really do think that's where the power of innovation comes comes from. Is that ability to scale collaboration and is really one of the best ways that you can achieve. What collaboration has meant to achieve which is the highest efficacy solution just to piggyback on on? What Alexa said having this sort of scaling collaboration I think that's a place that a lot of research teams have failed traditionally You know is this sort of notion of researcher as gatekeeper is falling away like there are gates that need to be captain gates to be opened. And when you're constantly thinking about how am I gonNa you know sort of keep these gates and this is sort Mike territory. That problem ties is collaboration. So that I think the notion the researcher filling that role versus someone who can be or more empowering others collaborating I think that's a ship that we have seen their some stalwarts or so holdings in the old Mauve but researchers aren't really thinking in that way to think about being another business pretty soon. His customer focused organizations look for ways to make smarter data driven decisions. The true value of agile will be the increased frequency frequency of learning not speed insides. Professionals must figure out which parts of the research process they can make more efficient without cutting corners. Alpha was founded five five and a half years ago. I know firsthand that the product look much different in twenty fourteen than it does today. Let's hear nist explain the evolution of Alpha and how it helps teams chief data the democratization Alpha started as an automatic sites platform for those decision makers so interestingly most of our users were not researchers historically right we didn't normally interface with consumer insights teams recently though that has increasingly been a stakeholder colder that's taken interest and what our platform offers in terms of scaling agile research and what we started to see consumer insights games really embracing what Roddy talked about. which is that? There's a lot of research that does not need to be customized. It can be standardized and scaled and then we can reserve certain things for custom custom research. Like if you want to come out with a brand or tagline or pricing. That's something that you probably want to be very very careful. You WanNa have a very high degree of confidence. It's an irreversible irreversible decision you want to customize research and get it ninety five one hundred percent right for all the other decision points were teams need data. Tomorrow that's what they're using Alpha before but what we've seen is consumer sexting. Come out and say can we configure Alpha. Can we set some custom parameters so that we can pro vision Alpha Two two teams at our organization within the context that makes sense for those teams and for our business and that was really interesting idea. I think it really represents the next evolution of our business and what we're working toward. And what twenty twenty will be defined by. And that's where having someone with rotties background and documented years of thought leadership in the industry is so exciting. Help US bring this next. Evolution of Alpha mentioned out was really born to support product teams in digital product teams but sort of moved on from there. I'm really excited coming on board with seeing number of different teams Alpha's working and and this is also mentioned. We've been working more and more with insights teams because we can really empower them to do more for their internal stakeholders that also means is as we get to sort of just sometimes directly or indirectly touch other parts of the business to knows this could be working with teams are designed teams working directly with HR JAR teams if for for example but also just empowering insights teams to be able to use our tool sometimes as replacement but most oftentimes as a supplement. Michael Matt are complement to other things that they're doing because in many cases in other teams really struggled to meet the needs of some of their internal sake orders nego- to give them tool for it to be able to do you that has been really powerful. I'm really allow them to put data at the fingertips of people in different parts of their business so that collaboration has been really powerful than super excited added to continue to fuel that as an event next year in recent years more and more non product teams have used Alpha to scale L. Edge research and insight generation even Alpha's own product process is informed agile research. I asked Alexa to talk about specific product of Aleutians that were discovered through research so alpha is a software tool that generates insights workflows as agile space. We want anyone. Anyone need to maintain our own agility works best practices or close workloads in space are changing all the time and we variability time and time again with a different customers that we work with. In different organizations you all have different definitions of experimentation through one example of how we maintain agility through Internet suture development so as a bit more background find years ago. When apple started our customers were running tests how we define them for the very first time tests being short focused objective driven tests that are minted Iran in succession to empower the evolution of learning the first lesion that we had in place with simply attacks box so that customers could type in learning objectives or assumptions we translate the intended to their question we manually scripted tasked to provide insights for that learning objectives? What we started to see use cases naturally emerged from using this tool in this way we were able to analyze type in learning objectives uses opportunity? Did you learn about the use cases more fully so one example of a use case that constantly emerged customers who wanted to test jargon within their contents they they were using terms that they assume that the audience would understand a bit more. Germs like deductibles are premiums and we were seeing being tested a lot so we gotta use that as a tool to inform. What would be the template for that type of learning objectives so therefore the solution that we wanted to experiment airmont with to start were test templates which are tests that are organized by the most common learning objectives with predefined end vetted servic options it'd visible to our customers came out of analyzing those common patterns in the emerged from those use cases what this enabled our customers to do was was again allowed non researchers to have access to Vetted actionable it also allowed them to have transparencies. So that our customers would have knowledge around the type of data Winston They should expect eve. INSEMINATE showers and also enabled standardisation so that users could more easily assess test over test patterns. The solution was informed by agile research by way of our iterative release strategy over the course of one year re released four versions of this solution each version carrying within on my toughest success criteria for opportunities for learning the iterative released started with partnering with key customer that we could work collaborated with on a pilot. Let's templates solution. So working with them directly enabled us to understand the surrounding factors at play. We were to launch a solution such as the best practices of that organization's insights as leaders the teams they served and use cases of when to use this type of tablet why that pilot translated into all customer. MVP release which really put the solutions to test test. We had significant relatively lofty success criteria associated with the MVP released that we could objectively determine if this solution was actually actually working or not The Nice thing about the iterative release strategy as well is that the success metrics were captured. Both quantitatively we're using a usage metric would also colored with a lot of qualitative feedback as well to conceptualize how the solution was performing on this was coming in the form of ongoing interviews. Our customers as well as internal feedbacks facilitated estimated by the concept of a crossed team pod which was developed Over the course of the future development visit able teams rob whether our customer success sales and operations who are close to the problems helps to remind me back they were getting honestly. I'm really developing this feature. irritably allowed us to optimize for learning saying each step of the way it allows each versions released to be more informed than the next in their foreclosed the knowledge gaps that we had. That's really what experimentation is meant to accomplish his technique he closes confidence gaps between perceived problems and solutions and genuine problem. Solutions Recognizing thing that standardized research and automation could be a game changer in product development Alpha launched research templates which like other product features before it was informed by a series of internal mini experiments and testing Denise Roddy and Alexa See. This is the future of Agile Research. What templates really is the first step toward is our movement toward the way we define agile research which draw point earlier is not about just running research faster? It's actually about scaling scaling research expertise in a way that decision makers can run pre vetted preapproved and rigorous decision. Making in real time. And so vetch. What tempting also allows when it comes to the future of Agile Research we had Alpha are keen on understanding what may never change versus where there is room for evolution to plug in Amazon example the need forgetting packages faster and cheaper users is never gonNA change but the way they go about doing that? Probably will new now looking into drones to deliver packages in our case. We're confident that making decisions that are informed formed by rigorous indispensable data fast made never change but the way to get there might templates step in the direction of understanding how we can stay L. The expertise of leaders in the space to get data faster. Make better decisions astor. We've seen the adoption of templates increasing month over month than a now about a quarter of art. Tests are being run as templates. So we're able to detect those types of trams. An example of how is Tampa solution is evolving right before our eyes is through the introduction of customizable templates which came from recognizing evolution in workflow or customers. Standardization is so key. Would it became clear. Clear that one-size-fits-all was gonNA need to be revisited. And there may always need for some semblance of customization we tackle this introducing the ability to add your own questions ends to a standard template going with the background knowledge that at certain organizations there was different sentiments towards who had knowledge in question running this practices. I never relaunch this feature as user permissions that we could quantitatively understand how many users granted this permission and who they were while also the qualitative being able to dive deeper into the impact that would be associated with introducing a level of customization so again this enables us to continue to optimize is for learning as the solution balls. We're lucky to be in such an interesting in ever changing space and so that we understand in our denied that we have to sustain testimony culture in Alpha. And that's what we wanted to for US mors with templates specifically. I think there's you know I mentioned before there's something that should be custom. There's some things that don't need to the custom in one of the things you can get away from when you stop thinking that every research every single is really needed conducted. Since the unique there's real value in standardization so one needs consistency and standardization is important. We're talking about you know comparing things wave over. Wave or test protests asking asking questions in the same way really makes a big difference. You should be asking questions in the same way if you want to be able to make comparisons setting. That's one big thing for me. I guess the second biggest thing is timing and in speed to sort of agreed on this way that we are going to approach things. It's much easier for you to get in field and get data back with those really. The two biggest things at templates solve me one of the interesting things that we found in sort of piloting templates in discussing this with our clients knew this going in was that there may be stirred standard standard ways that we want to approach something maybe best practice but it doesn't mean there's only one way to approach tests and so again. I think you should best practice if you want to keep in mind in but it seldom that things are black and white sort of you know right or wrong and we recognize that. There's some need for customization. There may be a certain reference diagnose that a client has on on how to approach something. So we've been working with our clients on house amazing templates for them you know. It's it's our role at Alpha to guide on Best Practices provide. I'd places to start but those starting places may not be the ending places. We're very onto that. We realized we talked about a little bit. We built out our initials that are run of templates. It's based on what we've seen thousands of tests. We've run our clients of Ron. We do have clients that maybe not in this doing the same types of tests that we're seeing surface talks. We've been working directly with them. The to rake custom templates based on. You know the collaboration with him. That may be specific to an industry or maybe specific type of research that they conduct and so it is aimed at looking at things overall also looking at things on on a client level really focused on collaborating with a team whether it be an insights esteem were directly with a product team to create something. That's going to streamline what they can do and ultimately scale it more quickly I think to the points that Roddy and Alexa made here. Templates is not something we could have done as a business. Five years ago right five years ago I remember when we were selling to product and digital title teams. That conversation was just selling the concept of experimentation. That's why this podcast has been so important for the industry right. Five years ago you had the fortune two thousand thousand just starting to pick up and read the lean startup in really trying to understand like why startup seemed to be eating their lunch every single industry and so five years ago is just about you. You need to run experiments and there was no standardization was not even near a problem. The problem was nobody asked questions. In terms of hypotheses product attic teams just operated on assumptions as the status quo. Almost every product decision was just a guess and we had to convince product and business teams that they needed to inform and validate those guesses in the last few years though as thousands of tests have been run on our platform by you know some of the largest and most respected it brands and the entire world we've really started to internally standardize those sorts of learning objectives and map them to different points in the product development life cycle so that we could bring to market a templates that are best in class that really inform the most common reoccurring decisions and so. This isn't something we could have done years ago. It's really it's cutting edge for us and in ways it's cutting edge for our customers because we are bringing to them the best and most common template. Id Research Capability that they could have customized. Reinvented the wheel themselves. Internally but we are looking at thousands and thousands of tests have been run on our platform across industry across company sizes thousands across stakeholders and we are bringing it to Alexis team has been working on is really groundbreaking stuff like if you want a study around product naming the -ation they have the seven to eight best questions on how to elicit really interesting responses and they're going to have many different templates for many different learning objectives that we've standardize over the last few years agile must be implemented with a focus on continuous integration testing and learning so the evolving needs of all the organizations stakeholders addressed. How can leaders greet culture that encourages learning? I thanks so much of what we've talked about really needs to be driven by leadership because sometimes left to their own devices teams are GonNa Create Fiefdoms in silos. And that's just how they're going to operate they're competing over resources. It's totally understandable. If you really want to reinvent your organization and what we talk about is like remove the scenes from within your organization. So you can deliver seamless experience to your customers. You need to to drive a culture of learning and a culture of democratising research so the way I think about VAT is that today with Alpha were enabling an organization to go from an environment where just twenty experts have the ability to conduct research generate insights tune environment where two hundred people are able to do so many of whom are not researchers are decision makers but I think really democratizing research is just the start frosts. The future sure is GONNA be one by businesses that democracy insights learning and we think Alpha can help companies gain scale there as well. So what does it look like. When an individual teams learnings things are made accessible to stakeholders throughout the organization whether or not they directly talk to each other whether or not they even know each other what we can enable a company to go from two hundred decision-makers generating insights to two thousand decision-makers accessing insights? That's what we're really excited about. And we think it'll mabel companies to transform themselves and achieve the next level of customer centric and Cross Functional Collaboration. There's a decision making gap that many companies face today the lack of access to data and silos that prevent organization wide learning in order to achieve true data democratization decision-makers must be given the freedom to experiment. It's the data the need when they need it and the capacity to make decisions with that data to scale these research efforts leadership needs great and organizational strategy around data democratization tation insight. Sharing is a must to and that's our show connect with Miss Brodie and Alexa on Lincoln and learn more about Alpha Alpha h q dot Com until next time this is my spine from author.

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May 13th 2019

Talking Tesla

09:26 min | 1 year ago

May 13th 2019

"The. Was not for your Ilan daily. This Monday may thirteenth and did you see game of thrones lesson? Yes. I thought you did wasn't a great wasn't a terrific wasn't amazing. You one of those people that don't watch game of friends. Are you like a used to be just like everybody watches this show? I'm going to be cool. I'm not gonna watch. And then you watch it like it's so good. Why did I not which Zillur well should watch? It's cool. The I got he is from C NBC, and it's about style link. Again, remember last week, we talked about the fact that they're gonna put up dozens of sterling satellites may fourteenth. I think they said they're going to do this first launch. Well, Illinois has been tweeting away and showing variety of pictures of these Stelling settle is actually going to be sixty in the first rocket that goes up. So it's a pretty tight space. So they've got these jam together. Go check out Ilan's tweets they've got to jam together. And they're gonna find these things up next week. This week. What am I talking about? Eventually having about twelve thousand of these satellites in close earth over providing fast internet access as I said, this is really a big deal for people who are in countries, and in places that really can't get internet access. It's gonna take them a few years to get this entirely up and running but space will need six more launches of sixty satellites pull orange to get mine coverage as what this thing a dozen launches or seven hundred twenty satellites to get moderate coverage, and then to have the full coverage with the twelve thousand satellites then they'll be good. But that is going to take us. But it's nice to know that you know, some coverage is going to occur even when they've done just six launches of these sixty satellites three hundred sixty settlements. They're going to have a reasonable amount. And then after that six more launches then it's going to be moderate exactly show what they mean my motor. They didn't say, but there's an interesting article here from tesla Roddy written by who is written. So I'm over as Guinness, and it's about the effect that tesla crude have when it comes to critical mass of people being interested in having electric cars, and then having that downstream effect on big oil, and some of the things that they quote here is Tesla's, obviously, led the way they've accelerated, the other comment factors. That's absolutely true. So, you know, this is why tesla exists to accelerate renewable energy and renewable transportation. And it's working. We're seeing all the big income and effector is now accepts still a bit for Toyota, but basically all of the comment of factors having a plan for electrification. Some of them are coming up now and some of them in the next year or two with models that look like, you know, they're going to be pretty compelling and they note in he that there's a survey by Kagera early. The that revealed that thirty four percent of Cobb is open to put a sing an electric within the next ten years and a survey amongst young people in the United Kingdom revealed fifty percent stating that they want to have electric cars like now. Now. And this is important because it turns out that the number one source of demand for oil is what that's right, ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, it is the passenger car. So if you can significantly electrify the passenger car, then you need a lot less oil and as long as you continue to dig that oil up and use it for something else. You can have a tremendous affect on greenhouse gases if and it's a big if if what you electrify your cows with is renewable energy, which we can do talked about that can happen. And all this could happen. Very fast. We could get to the concept of peak oil like we're taking out the most oil earth soon. It could happen within a few years decade to where we will just see oil production stout to crush, and you know, there's one guy at he's names JJ, Kenan TD Ameritrade who said, you know, we could look at a situation that's very similar to coal. So Kohl's going along you digging up coal, and you boning, lots of coal and. Then all of a sudden natural gas renewables start to take over and the industry just collapses. And so this is going to happen to the oil industry. At least Rehoboth this happens to the oil and not because we want people lose their jobs, but because we have to we must stop using oil. So if you're in the oil industry, what are you gonna do are you going to start putting money into renewables yet, you should you should diversify substantially? Of course, what the oil industry has been doing for the loss. Thirty is excellent particular, and we have this documented in multiple different places instead of studying to deal with this. They basically started their disinformation campaign, and it has been incredibly successful. If you wanna pud cast on it. There's a coast co drilled that you should take out. It's really really good. And if you want a book on, and I think I've spoken about this before Bill mckibben new book, he's head about fifteen books. Cold full to takes you through the history of what Exxon were doing and how they were initially scientists were saying as a problem we need to change. Over to known burning of fossil fuels and initially. It looks like everybody was on board. And then I decided what would be better disinformation campaign. We're living in that. Now politicians and individuals who really have no understanding that the science is basically done and still don't get it. Because of what Exxon did what they did. Frankly is a crime against humanity is freaking believable. But don't get me started. So as I say, you don't wanna just sort of stop using guests Kaz you wanna use electric, and you want to have the that those are running on be percent renewable one of the big AB charging groups here in the United States is Vigo it operates more than eleven hundred DC first charges in the US and plans to double it network by the end of twenty twenty it just announced that it's going to be the first charging network to contract for one hundred percent renewable energy, not even tesla. Does that yet where they want to get with has the wants to get is to have solar panels and batteries and be one. Hundred percent renewable but they don't they get. They've built the supercharge network really fussing continued to do so, and that's great, but they are not contracting to use a hundred percent renewables, and they don't have one hundred percent renewables on every single station infected is the bus minority Illinois said that he's going to you know, buff that out this year and next year in the next few years using Sola and batteries and get to the place where it is one hundred percent renewable, but he has not the year, but egos is they're going to do it. They're going to contract. So that all their electrons from renewables, and I gotta tell you that has an effect on me. I wonder if you have the same effect. But now if I have a choice of charging and ego is one of those choices than I will go to the go fast charger. If I can't go to tesla judge because frankly, oh, go to the judge because it's simpler and easier and faster. But if you're in those other circumstances getting on the go network makes you feel good inside now that the contracting, and these can be complicated. But they. Contracting to get one hundred percent renewable energy. I think it's a really important step. And I really hope it accelerates tesla now to get then at work a hundred percent renewable either by doing it themselves or by doing these kind of interesting contracts where they help build out solo femmes win funds renewable foams, so they can say in rarely it's not really a hundred percent renewable those electrons. You can't guarantee a coming from renewable source, but by you, go one for one gigawatt outta gigawatt. You're gonna produce renewable energy, even though you might not exactly using in that car at that time from that charger today, but the concerts important another big companies are doing this Google Amazon Apple same kind of thing. Putting in a lot of money developing and help developing renewable energy throughout the world. So then they can say look we use a thousand gigawatts of energy, and we placed a thousand gigawatts of renewable energy. And so that he can say we're a hundred percent renewable. And Leslie today lays Jim wasn't goes. There is a video go check it at Google search. Each of a tesla supposedly on autopilot stopping for a bunny rabbit on the road. It's quite lovely the bunny rabbit lived. We don't know with. That's true. Whether it was really the human driver. But this person says that the cast stopped for a bunny that was crossing the road. You see automation can be good can be moral can be lovely. But of course, here is the big moral dilemma, we have to right into these programs certain circumstances. What are they going to do? You have a choice. The choice is to kill the bunny rabbit or to kill the human in the car now like bunny rabbits, I think they're wonderful. But I want the kata choose the death of the bunny of the death of me and my family, but you're gonna mention that those things get even more complicated. What if there is a group of schoolchildren crossing the road? And for some reason something terrible has happened in the has decide plow through the school children or played the tesla into a poll and kill everybody inside. These are the ethical dilemmas. That you know, some situations like this kind of silly. And maybe even gross, but they will come up. And so what are we going to do should the I look after the passengers over and above everything else will should it be told to make some difficult moral choices, I'll let you think about that until tomorrow Herbert up, but Ilan pod token tests the podcast.

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