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"robin pere" Discussed on The Autosport Podcast
"Let's find out. Today we ask can Hyundai pick up where they left off. How will we call Robin pair of cope with the weights? On his shoulders are being the champion. And do we have a true, true, three way fights for the first time in a long time in 2023, let's get up to speed with our rally man Tom Howard. Hey Tom, welcome back to the auto sport podcast. You must be so excited about rally this year. Yeah, no, it's really exciting. If we weren't already excited by the new cars and everything last year, this year, perhaps the excitement was even more because as you said there, we've got new drivers, new driver lineups and rally winners or champions, should we say in each of the teams, which is a spicy concoction there ready for a real real tight title fight which we're all looking forward to. Let's tell our listeners why and I'll see if I can make my case as we do this next 15 minutes of why I think WRC is about to wake up to a wider audience. I'm actually not going to start without new world champion we'll get to him in a moment, but rather a former one. Oit tanak comes into M sport. Now that team know, they have signed somebody who they simply must deliver for. He's a star signing. Do you think M sport can rise to the occasion? So firstly, we should just clear up for anyone who doesn't follow the reality that aim sport isn't a full manufacturer back team like Toyota and Hyundai. So they don't quite have the same resource as those two. So they really have to sort of cut their cloth accordingly. But for this, after a dismal, should we say dismal last season where they only had one win, which is Monte Carlo, and a couple of podiums after that. They needed to make some changes. Malcolm Wilson, the team boss. He doesn't come here just to make up the numbers. He comes in to win rallies into wind tiles. So he's cut his coffin called me. We've got two full-time entrance, and one of those is the 2019 world champion. He left high and die after three years at the end of last year with a year contract still on the year still on his contract. So he was quite unhappy with how things went behind the relationship kind of broke down. He needed a somewhere new to go and he's rejoined eSport, which is the team that gave him his first break back in 2011. And it's where he's got his first parody in his first win. So there's a lot of history. It's a homecoming of sorts. And this is really the sort of key piece in the puzzle frames for what they needed a world champion or a genuine rally winner to lift and to spearhead their challenge and in order to get one. But to answer your question, can they deliver for him? There is no option other than they have to. They have to deliver for it tanak. Yes, they don't have the resource, but it has been assured that the development will continue with the puma. They do have a very strong relationship with Ford in the U.S. Ford performance who helped design the puma. So they do have the resource there, not perhaps not quite as much as the other two teams, but if they nail their direction of development correctly and oit gives them the feedback that they need to do that and the two combine, you have got a genuine title contender in their possibility and one thing we're also going to support is they've been clever here in terms of only putting out two full-time cars last season, they perhaps overstretched their resources, running 5 cars sometimes, and you could see that it was too much. Scaling back to two really puts the focus on making sure that they can give everything they need to owe it to him to do or for him to challenge for his title with Pierre Louis lube as a really worthy assistant in the second car. So yes, my answer is yes, but we were wait and see. What a tan X qualities that you think could bring the title to M sport. There's no question marks are about his ability. We've seen what he can do and he's won a world title in 2019 with Toyota. He was extremely dominant that year. And let's not forget that that was sort of the only sort of gap in before Cali struck last year. It's the only gap in the sort of Sebastian rain where Loeb and OJ dominated for decades. So he can beat the best, but also what probably stands out last year more than ever was his ability to extract the most out of the car that perhaps isn't the best. So this could be key for M sport in terms of if it is found that the pure is maybe slightly lacking compared to the high end iron Toyotas in tanakh, they've got someone who can rise above that, shall we say, because infinite last year in a high end it was quite wayward tannic was supreme and managed to be able to beat Kelly Robin pere in the best machine out there. So that's probably the skill work tanak is the fact that he can really wrangle the best out of anything. And I think this is where his skills are really kind of come to the forks. He's got to learn a new car, new team, but I don't have any concerns over that. I'm pretty sure he will get that pretty quickly and he'll be on the pies for the rest. Next, Hyundai, what about the hierarchy at that team? And the leadership Nigerian monse was the man who had to take over at short notice last year and there was a brand new car, new set of regulations, new hybrid power, he's no longer in charge though. What happened there? So Hyundai is a very curious case if you look at last season because if you look at it on paper, it was their most successful year ever. They didn't win any titles, but they won 5 rallies, which is the most I've ever done in a single season, but that is only a snippet of the story because they were so far behind up to 6 months behind their opposition because of a light green light to join the new regulations so the car was delayed. Then they lost a longtime team prince Andrea damo, who left in December. There was a huge testing accident for Tyrion noville, so at Karl's written off. So they were chasing their tiles for basically the first half of the season with an underdeveloped and an unreliable I 20 N but credit to Julian monse and despite a lot of leadership struggle, should we say because he was sort of just trusted into sort of a control when we didn't know if he was going to be replaced mid season or whether he was going to be there the whole year. It's hard for him to do that. But he managed to bring the team to get it to score 5 ready wins in the second half of the year. They outscored Toyota, which were the champions. So they closed the gap, remarkably. And it points us get enough credit for what they did there. So in many ways, I'm very excited to see what they do this year because if they can close the gap from being that far behind it start the season. What are we going to see if there are much more equal staff to this year? Will we actually see Hyundai actually overtake to us? Because the way that they were going at the second half of the year, it was suggesting that they were going to. So both teams have made changes to their cars and certainly in the aero department on both cars and the engine on the Toyota. So we will see, but I think we have generally going to see quite a strong challenge from Hyundai and now under the new management with Cyril, a B 12 coming in. His Formula One experience. What I've actually written in the column for the magazine this week is I feel like, yes, Cyril doesn't have the rally experience, but his man
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"robin pere" Discussed on The Autosport Podcast
"Rally driver and hoonigan founder Ken block passed away yesterday following a snowmobile accident in Utah. He was 55 years old, and most famous for his YouTube series of daring stunt videos, which had been watched over 650 million times. His hoonigan racing division described him as a visionary, a pioneer. And an icon, and most importantly, a father and a husband who will be terribly missed. Today we'll look back at a life lived at full speed. We'll hear from his friends, Petter, and Oliver Solberg will explain how he entered the world of motor sport and look at the legacy, he leaves behind. Let's get up to speed with our rally man, Tom Howard, hey Tom. Welcome back to the podcast under. I'm not great circumstances today, but important that we pay tribute to a great figure in motor sport today. It's a sad day today, actually. I sort of feel a little bit like when I felt when I heard Colin McRae died in 2007, it's that sort of feeling of like, you think these guys are invincible, but they're not, you know, and it's just, yeah, it's only right that we should pay tribute to Kenny may not have been sort of the most successful being a world champion or sporting results, but his legacy and what he did for rallying. It was huge. You know, probably outweighs winning world titles in some respect. Whenever we follow a hero, a figure in motor sport as well. When somebody either passes away oranges themselves doing the sport that we love to watch them for versus something else and it's the same with Michael Schumacher's accident or Colin McCrae with his helicopter and now we find today we're talking about Ken block and other sad circumstance to talk about a great sports person who we love. Doing something he loved, but not actually the sport because motor sport is dangerous. Now many famous athletes reach the end of their career, then they transition to being entrepreneur, a business owner, et cetera. But can the other way, founder of multiple brands in the skate and snowboard world. He grew up loving the mountains and spending time on snowboards and getting into skate culture as well and a famously founded D.C. shoes. But he had a lifelong love of motor sport would be on motocross bikes and dirt bikes from his early teenage years. But later in life, in his mid 30s, just he happened to take a couple of days less than a rally school as something that he thought would be fun to do. In 2004, and in that moment, the rally bug bit him. He began his quest to be the best he could be. Competing in 2005 in rally America, winning rookie of the year, he'd have stints in WRC global rally across he would win medals at the X Games where he would finally get to race against his longtime hero. Colin McRae. Yeah, remember back in the day as well. WRC wasn't carried in terms of media coverage in America, the way it is now. So Ken would spend his younger years hunting down VHS tapes and sit and watch them for hours of his hero Colin McRae on those rally stages. It has partnerships with monster Ford, Subaru and most recently Audi, with his electric huna Tron. Well, Tom, it is a cliche that you hear all the time when tributes have been pouring in as they say, but you know, today they really have from all corners of motor sport, people either new Ken or touched by his ability to take motor sport, particularly with younger audiences were as well into places that it hadn't been before. Who are some of the people that have been paying their respects today? It's been quite incredible actually just to see just how far and how widely received he was as a driver of firstly, I think we should probably touch on the rally community because I've perhaps been the hardest hit by this news. Obviously, many of the sports top level drivers have been posting their tributes on social media today. I would like to start with Sebastiano actually. Now 8 time world champion, so one of the best that's ever been. And he said, Ken was a visionary, so passionate and inspiring. You know, like no other to combine motor sport at a big show. And I think that really says that sums up Ken block pretty well. And a supreme ultimate showman. Yeah, someone who had an impressive car control and was able to sort of compete at the highest level. And for someone like Sebastian ogier to say that says it all 8 time world champion, his contemporary Sebastian Loeb has actually competing on the Dakar at the moment, but he still managed to put a tweet out that just said RIP legend. And if you've got lobe calling you a legend, that is quite something to aspire to because Loeb is perhaps the ultimate rally driver with 9 world titles, but yeah, there was a countless tributes across the board. I'd like to actually read one from Gus greensmith actually, the former M sport driver, it's actually quite a nice little process. He says, the impact this man has left on motor on the motor sport world will resonate for generations to come. A visionary and a pioneer of all things hooning. There was only one Ken block. I think that's a pretty nice sentiment from Gus greens with what Ken has done for shining a light on the rally world, perhaps unlike anything we'll see again. He knows the sort of combined this ultimate showmanship and with his stunt videos that also inspired a generation of rally drivers. And he came to rallying later in life as well when he was 34 years old of course this year has been last year 2022 has been the story of Callie Robin pere, the youngest world champion, someone who grew up in rally cars. But Ken didn't. I mean, he grew up with outdoor sports with skating and snowboarding and dirt cross bikes as I mentioned. And he credits that as he started to drive rally cars. He said he was getting a little bit older. The idea of a cage around him appealed.
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"robin pere" Discussed on The Autosport Podcast
"So again, it's getting someone in that deserves to be represented. The championship deserves representation in the top 50. It was competitive. I think the front guards are really good. They're really clean. This idea of the British tour and car drivers just smash into each other. He's actually really old perception now. We've got a generation of drivers who know how to do it. I mean, Jake hill and Tom Ingram ran about three quarters of a lap saw by a side of the finale when they were going for the would have been very easy for Tom to have gone in the anchor by. And he didn't, they respectful. So yeah, absolutely needs to be there, but difficult for domestic in domestic championships. It's difficult to know really can't really argue that up too high, I think. Because it's a domestic championship. Well, it depends on the strength of domestic championships well of course. I mean, you could argue that NASCAR Cup is a domestic championship, but it is the top of that particular tree. A lot of American drivers want to go there. And I think that helps explain why America struggles to produce F one talent because they want to go stock car racing. They go to NASCAR and if they don't do that and go single seats as well, why would Josie Newgarden leave Team Penske in a chance to win Indy 500 and you can't change it every year and not some money and go and go and tune around in the midfield in F one cast, what's the point? So that's one of the reasons why I think we struggle to get Americans on screen, although of course we do have one for next year. Logan sergeant you made the list either, did he? So that's another mention, but will he make it next year? We know, let's talk about that. Actually, the last couple of minutes of the podcast, let's all get your predictions. Then we can hold you to it. Next year and laugh about who you think might see on the list. This is a new feature. Because this year, obviously, obviously no Oscar piastre on the list this year, but it's an annual list, so drivers like that, no Daniel Ricciardo, but he definitely won't be on the list. But let's look at what drivers you think could make the list and where they could be, Tom I'll come to you because, you know, Callie, Callie Robin pair are amazing year smashed McRae's record by 5 years. He's just 20 5 years and 88 days. He just thinks. Good work. So he'd just turned 22 when he won it. Does that mean repeat performance could see Robin pere going for number one? I think yeah, he's going to be hard to beat, isn't he? There's no question about that. The only sort of question mark is is just, are we going to see for more rallies? Next year. And if we do, if we do that could generally be asparagus works because if he gets in a car that actually doesn't is more reliable, shall we say and then sport fix some of the problems I've got, then he's taking points away from Robert Perez. But conversely, if I'm impaired, then wins the chapter against Lowry, but full on, I mean, okay, still beating a 49 year old, but it's one of those. He's a bit of a Fernando Alonso catches us today. We've used freaks a lot in this. But yeah, so I think that could actually help growth in Paris. She then comes out. My problem is very in Paris. I think it's going to be difficult to climb from there because it's not really the winning of the multiple chances it's the thing. It's how they win that championship. So if OJ and load both kind of get together and go, do you know what? We need to sort this fit let's come back to do it properly. You go on M sport, I'll go over to hay and I. Whatever, then yeah, game on. But if he just ends up beating the same, I mean cheering all of it will always finish second or third in the championship. So you actually start pointing the table. Will you be above or below neuville? Factories if elfin elephants does actually gets head around this car. We know what you can do when he's on it. He may well challenge Kelly a bit further. So interesting. Okay. Who might we see on the list going up and added to the list as well next year? I mean, we might see people from the Peugeot sports car projects added. I mean, they only sort of came along for the last sort of three rounds of wet this year. I mean, who knows? That's the really exciting thing from my perspective as someone who enjoys following sports car racing is that there's all of this newness being thrust into the mix where the only established projects really are the Toyota and the glickenhaus, which again is sort of behind in its development versus the Toyota you've got all of these new manufacturers coming in. We could see somebody from Cadillac, you know, somebody like Alex Lynn or a leading pear show driver. A poor to restore, or below it without making a return. What does it take for them to make the list? Because it's going to be very competitive. I mean, this is the thing, isn't it? It's that magic moments element. And people that make spectacular passes or crunch moments make a difference that changes the outcome of a race. It could make all the difference between them being in the top 50 and not. One important thing that we should stress is that drivers who aren't in the top 50 this year, they're not because they're bad drivers. Islam because we don't rate them. It's not because we don't think they're any good. Any number of drivers that could make this top 50 and ultimately it is just a bit of fun to put this together and showcase who we think has done well. But that's not to say that we think anyone who's not on the list is unworthy of a frankly because a lot of racing drivers are heroes. The guys in the world rally championship. Threading the needle between the trees. There's guys that haven't a hope of making the list this year for various reasons, but some we've not mentioned this so far as to pick a lap coming back in with Toyota this year exchanging the third car with auger. But just because he's not on the list that doesn't mean that we don't think he's any good or all of an Evans or any of the others.
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"robin pere" Discussed on The Autosport Podcast
"With that. I think no doubt about the fact that he is jealous with these new generation of cars better than anyone else. And certainly this GI yaris that he's got the moment. If you look at the way he sort of pitches a car into a corner, 9 times out of ten, he has the absolutely perfectly controlled in a slide. There's no corrections. It's just one effort, whereas perhaps some of the other drivers are sort of having a few saws on the wheel to try and make sure that they get it through the corner, how they want. There is definitely that part of it, but to be honest with you, like obviously, as we saw last year, he was very capable in the hands of that old car and got two wins in that. So there is a skill there an element of skill there that has got into this point. Shall we say? You've spent this year in the service parks with him. Tell us a little bit about what kind of man he is. And what kind of racing driver he is. Well, as you know, as a fan, he does have that sort of quite reserved nature, and sometimes when you talk to him, you do get some sort of quite short direct answers, but also what I would say is he's got a wicked sense of humor as well. Certainly, he can he's quite a cheeky kind of chap and does like to have a little joke and him having Johnny houseman and his coach over let's not forget yoni like those two together are a great little double act and they clearly share the same sort of sense of humor and in the car Kelly sometimes he'll have a wild moment and he'll sort of just chuckle to himself while he's driving and it's stuff like that that is quite amusing and Croatia was probably perhaps one of the most sort of amusing moments for Cali in terms of he was locked in a real fight with like tanak at high and die and tannic had laid down a really nice stage time and the stage and reporter after Khalid come through and blitz that stage time after what was your what was your reply to Tanaka and he sort of literally took his crash helmet off and on the back of his crash helmet he has his catch phrase painted which is full send and he just pointed to it and said this is my reply. And it's just cheeky little moments like that. But this is important for the sport. You need to have characters like this and rallying has always had those sort of funny moments at staging interviews and he's really sort of played into that as well. So yeah, he's sort of double persona in terms of his very, very cool, very, very calm and collected. Doesn't give away anything too much. You know, he's got quite a bit of a poker face, but when he wants to have a bit of fun, he's he can certainly dish it out and it's very entertaining. Thinking about I jotted down some of the names that I could think of finish racing drivers before the podcast were like Valtteri Bottas and make you hacking and hokey linen, Kimi Räikkönen Tommy McEnany, the toy vanens. Yes. And it's like, there are some personalities in there which are more reserved when the microphone comes out, but then those that have been on social media in recent years or the instagrams, we do see them partying. So sometimes in front of the cameras, that nature can be a bit more reserved. But certainly, you know, we saw Cali dancing on the roof of his Toyota. Celebrating seller of writing with his co driver that win, just very quickly, we won't get into a whole rally review here. We have a channel called gravel notes, which you're very welcome to subscribe to. There's a rally review over on that channel. But how did he clinch it 8th career win like you say 6th of the year, which shows the dominance of 2020 to still with two rallies remaining. He just needed to bring the points home, but he didn't do that. He went for glory. Callie Robin Pereira was very much back to the full send Callie that we've come used to. Yeah, he only needed to outscore tanak by 8 points to win the championship, but did it in style with a 34.6 second victory over Sebastian ogier no less the 8 time world champion and outgoing world champion. Tanak was third, 46 seconds back. He had a few issues over the weekend and was unlucky as well. He's really been driving brilliantly, but has been let down by other factors sadly. But yes, Kelly, he actually needed to finish at least four fastest on the power stage to get a bonus two points which seal the title. But as we know with Cali, that's not how he rolls. So he went full attack into this man-made stage in front of a good 10,000 fans. It was a very, very, very cool spectacle. And I only went and won the power stage just to absolutely seal what would a perfect weekend a perfect win a 30 points and jumped up on the roof to celebrate with a dance that, as you said, it was quite amusing. A little bit out of character, but we asked him about that dance. And he did say that it was prepared, although Johnny houseman was not as prepared as Kali sure. It was brilliant to watch. I'd like to draw some comparisons to where this weekend in Japan we could see Max Verstappen, being a two time Formula One. World champion, we saw it was at this event when he was 17 that Toros I gave him his first test in a Formula One car. He is of course the sun of a successful racing driver. And he has broken the mold for being the youngest ever at certain times, so there are going to be natural parallels between Max Verstappen and Callie Robin pere a drawn. Do you think this win and this championship win at such a young age can do something for rallying that Max Verstappen with his battle with Hamilton did for Formula One, rallying is different, you know, the coverage on TV isn't there, but the social media coverage is certainly there. What can he do for the future of the sport? There are actually quite a lot of parallels between the Verstappen and the Robin pair. If you look at his career in Formula One, he wasn't super successful and Harry Rothenberg, you could argue he wasn't super successful either to some extent. So they do sort of have very sort of mirrored out looking away in terms of how they've sort of gone. They had a decent they both had decent careers, but their sons have gone on to have absolutely mega careers. I actually do believe that this will change the game for rallying in several ways. I think this will open the doors and show to people that or show to younger drivers that it firstly that is possible to be a world champion without being 28, 29 or 30. That might just encourage maybe a few more, but again, the opportunities are limited. So it's not just say, oh,
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"robin pere" Discussed on The Autosport Podcast
"Following this one, prepare to be amazed. Colin McRae's previous record of being the youngest, world rally champion at 27, hasn't just been beaten. It just got smashed. Let's find out who just became the youngest ever champion how he ended Finland's 20 year wait for a title. And what he can do for the future of the sport. Let's get up to speed with autosports, Tom Howard Tom. Welcome back to the podcast. Thanks for having us. Back on the show. So you just witnessed history being made in New Zealand with the youngest ever champion. The world rally championship. Let's remind ourselves, though, who the previous youngest champion was, tell us more. The legend that is all that was sadly Colin mccrea, certainly for me, he was a hero of mine growing up one of the reasons why I even got hooked into watching rallying and I'm sure there's several people of similar age to myself and an older and younger that would have also enjoyed watching Colin McRae. He was a real special talent on the his only world title in 1995 and did that at the age of 27, which was the youngest at the time. 27 back there would have been seen very, very young because champions were sort of, you know, the late 20s, early 30s, and sometimes mid 30s were sort of seen as the prime age to win a world title. So yes, Conor McRae was known as the mister maxim of attack. He was a very exciting driver to watch race for Subaru, the factory team and his early 90s then went to Ford and then he had his final season with citron in 2003. He still regarded as one of the legends of the sport even today, 26 years on since his world title. And in the top level of rallying in the modern era, tell me about the recent champions. And how long they'd been driving? Were they also all older? Inverted commas. Champions. If you're not too familiar with rallying and WRC, then in the last few couple of decades, we say it's been dominated by two Sebastian's two French French rally drivers, Sebastian Loeb, and Sebastian ogier, Loeb has the 9 time world champion, the most successful and greatest rally driver of the ball. He has 80 world rally championship wins and has been competing even this year on a part time basis at the age of 48 and still winning events so Monte Carlo in January, so Sebastian ogier took over from him. One 8 titles and is the reigning world champion this year until Kelly Robin Perez success. That sort of period of dominance was split by tanak who won the world title in 2019 for Toyota. So that's how the world rally scene has played out over the last few years. While following rally New Zealand over the weekend, Callie Robin perra is now world champion. They call him king Kelly. You could also call him birthday boy. Tell us about the weekend and Callie Robin Pereira being the new world champion. What's a weekend if you or Kelly off of Paris celebrating your 22nd birthday? I don't know. He does get any better, I guess. If you're a rally driver or if you're if you're dream is to win the world rally champion, it doesn't get any better than the weekend that Callie Robin Perez just experienced not only has he become that the youngest ever world champion at the age of 22 and one day. He also became the first Finnish world champion for 20 years, so it ended that drought for a rally mad nation. So it's a massive deal for Finland. They've already announced that there's going to have a special celebration day in the country in his hometown of your vascular. So it's a big deal for Finland. And a big deal for Kelly Rothenberg. I mean, he's just a phenomenal talent. It's a record, I reckon we won't see beaten. A new benchmark, which I think is just above and beyond what anyone could have imagined. Now, he hasn't come from nowhere, like all overnight success stories. It's been 20 years in the making. Maybe 22 years in the making. Because in the beginning, there was Harry, Robin pere. Yep, Callie's father, WRC driver, 1993 to 2006. What happened with his dad's career and how did that lead into Cali getting behind the wheel? Harry Robin pere a former factory driver for Peugeot and sayat as well and it's a bushy. So he's been around a while as Harry. But I only ever won one rally back in 2001 at Sweden. So he was a regular podium finisher, but never really a title contender. He was what you'd call, I guess, a very safe pair of hands. You would have implored him to just pick up the points and be that sort of driver there, but perhaps not the one you put your money behind to lead your team to a title. He's really has some helped build obviously his son Kelly wrote from pair in terms of the rally driver. From an early age, he's got him in the car in cars driving from I think 8 or 9. He's been Cali has been driving some sort of vehicle. What do you think about it? Yes, he's the youngest of a world champion at the age of 22, but he's been driving things for a very long time. And our over that time, you just build the skills. Boy, as he built some skills because most of the paddock most of the service park sorry would envy the skills that Kali Roth and bear have his age. Certainly, you just watching him, he is he has skills beyond his years. The composure that he has behind the wheel, I don't think we have seen in many drivers in all motor sport. It's something that I generally can't really describe, but he just has this sort of, I just jump in the car and I just go and do it. There's no worries, there is no sort of panic. He's machine like, I guess. Is the only way to sort of it's just a machine. I'm generally speechless at how good he is because we're obviously fold him all season 6 rally wins. But he just has this ability to just destroy his rivals, but he's real skill. And I guess this is sort of comes back to all those years that you've been training in all sorts of cars, trying to learn car control. And it's his car control, which sets him about apart from the rest, because when the weather gets tricky, Cali rov repair is untouchable. There is no one that can come near him when it starts raining or gets slippery.
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"robin pere" Discussed on The Autosport Podcast
"You're doing Singapore, who are we sending to that one? Yeah, be off to Singapore in a couple of weeks time, really, really looking forward to that. That's always like that was I would say the number one race I was wanting to go and do for the first time haven't been able to do it since I've moved into this role in 2020 thanks to the infernal pandemic. Yeah, very much very much looking forward to heading to Singapore. It's been a tiring week after my efforts covering the Dutch Grand Prix, but yeah, let's just say I was able to recover even more whilst watching the Italian Grand Prix because it was evident from very early on it wasn't going to be much of a spectacle worth paying much attention too well. Other than the fact that keeping an eye on how it's working out for the story of the season because it once was happened escaped the danger of the first corner from starting in the pack. There's no reason to think that the club is going to win that race. It ultimately Ferrari took what took the opportunity that came their way with the virtual safety car. If they hadn't taken it, Red Bull would have taken it. So there's nothing Ferrari could have done. I think to have won that race unless I'm sure we'll get on to you later. The ending of the race was completely different, which would require a rule change for that to happen. Now here's a couple of wins away from a second world championship 31st F one victory. 5th in a row, 11th of the season. Two wins away. From the record of the most successful Formula One season. Do you, Alex, do you want to stick a flag in the sand yet and predict what race he is going to wrap up the second world championship? I've been doing this to Tom Howard, our rally guy, with the amazing young Callie Robin pere, who's going to win WRC this year. At his first attempt, which is amazing. And he's kind of been like, I'm not sure I want to stick my neck out. What about you with max? When's he going to win it? Come on. The most logical race for it to happen assuming he wins in Singapore and assuming leclerc finish is second. If that happens Verstappen can't be the champion, it's not the case of if he wins Singapore's champion, whatever. I was doing a little bit of maths earlier because that's how that's how bored I was coming the end of the race. And I haven't actually done the full breakdown, but I know that I know that he can't, he can't win the title simply by winning taking fast his lap things like that if you Claire finished his second. It would require something going wrong for leclerc. It seems quite likely, given how everything else has gone in 2022. Singapore, unlikely, but could happen so probably the next race at Japan and considering that's where the Honda engines that are still in the back of the Red Bull obviously rebadged with the Red Bull power chains, but essentially still Honda's pretty fitting, considering that that was the key reason why Red Bull won the Italian Grand Prix and why they've been so good all year. It's because the Honda engine is the class of the field. It's absolutely phenomenal. And it meant the Red Bull could set up its car to challenge Ferrari in the corners at Monza, which, you know, there's very few of them, but the Ferrari was still the fast car in the corner, 'cause the car is generates more down force because of the way it's run on the other way. It's designed. So yeah, it would be good for Honda for that to happen. Good for Verstappen. Obviously never won the Japanese Grand Prix, but I'm sure I'd be happy to do that and clinch the title on Honda's own track. Hayden, tell us about why Verstappen, we've talked about Honda just mentioning them just there. Why was he starting down in 7th after qualifying? Second. Right, so strap in because it was a bit complicated, but the answer isn't just internal combustion change. That's the reason. We had to run an article last night, hours after qualifying to say, you know, here's the FIA's final decision. Can you fill us in on that, please? Yeah, so we'll start with the engine change, which was a sort of advice or instruction from Honda as a precaution, their concerns over there, engine. So that's why Verstappen took that 5, just a 5 place Copenhagen just for that part of the engine. And obviously then he qualified second on times behind pulses to the clerk, but obviously with that engine penalty was a conversation of what he starts 7th or would he start forth, depending on who you ask and who did the maths because of the drivers directly behind him signs and Hamilton having and parents having other grid penalties themselves to serve. But it actually goes back to effectively a rule that Michael masse largely did put in place or at least clarified in terms of it doesn't almost really matter about the other penalties around you for other drivers. You were still serve your 5 place grid penalty if you're, for example, Max Verstappen in this scenario or ten or 15 for the other drivers. Regardless of that. So he was right in on Saturday afternoon when he said I will be starting 7th and everyone was like, are you sure? No, no, yeah, definitely. So yeah, that's why he was 7th where he was. And he sort of made a good breeze of it, really. I was speaking to our colleague Jake voxel leg before the race. When we were doing the live text commentary and I had a sneaky spin given the way that first laps at Monza traditionally go, you thought it could be a bit hairy for him.
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"robin pere" Discussed on The Autosport Podcast
"Obviously, maybe your money's on Thierry with his local knowledge, but he had a sort of overshoot slash half spin on the very first stage. He did it already lost some time there and was semi playing catch up from Friday onwards. And then it looked like elfin was in a commanding position, but both Hyundai's were catching and then you had a transmission issue for 8 ten X so they were all battling and it also is worth noting that both oi and elfin had a slow punctures on the Friday as well. So they were all battling their own issues here. So the impression that you might get that from the outside if you maybe hadn't caught the action and you saw Robin Perez out means tanakh sort of inherited the winners actually almost totally incorrect because each driver really had to battle to be in contention. But saying that by the Saturday afternoon, after a little bit of back and forth and gamesmanship between the two high and died boys, which was quite made for some good social clips, that's for sure, I think Thierry was asked at the stage end about ten X issues and he said, well, if it's having issues, then I'm running on three cylinders, so they were kind of playing a bit of mind games with each other there, which was really entertaining, as well as the sort of action on the stages, which was getting pretty fraught. They were both really pushing as it showed when Thierry just didn't expect this sort of it's almost painful to watch his incident because you could argue maybe breen and Robin pere is incidents were they were higher speed, but they still weren't really, really flat out like you could have a really big off like we saw here last year. But Thierry's was the slowest of the bunch. It was under steering off at a sort of square left hander, which ended up he just explained it was a lot more dirty than he really expected it to be. And he just couldn't get the car back and you can see that from the replay. He has got so much lock on that car for so long just begging it to go left and he almost makes it out if he said to the media afterwards that he with hindsight he would have pitched the car into a spin to avoid the accident. But of course that's the beauty of hindsight, but yeah, it was another shocking moment and just another after all these issues that I just mentioned, another moment where the media center was just in shock because how many more twists could this rally take at this point? Yeah, Tom. And of course being the local as well. You kind of you can feel sort of a collective sigh and gasp from all the people in the service park and in the media. It was a big moment because they're all expecting Thierry to deliver like you did last year. So it kind of you kind of felt sorry for them because obviously that's what all the fans want. They want it to airy victory. They don't want to see them in the ditch, but it was quite interesting that the fact that you had hordes of fans trying to get this pull this car out of this ditch and they got it out. Like they were jumping on the rear wing and tried to pull this thing left right and said to get it back on the road. They did actually get it back on the road, but there was too much damage to the front right on the car and sadly he had to literally pull over in an access riding except defeat really, which interior being Thierry, you know, when you do talk to him or when you do see him afterwards, he's very he's very positive. He's always looking forward, never really sort of throws his toys out of the pram because you could argue that he could absolutely go ballistic himself for that. But when the camera's on, he's like, yeah, it was all very cool, calm collected, and I looking forward already, which is you have to give credit for that because that takes some doing to be able to hide or at least contain the anger. Because to throw it off the road in front of all those expectant fans as well. And yeah, I can't imagine what that feels like. But yeah, it was definitely heartbreaking for the locals. So, we lost our championship leader, our rally leader and stage winner. Then we lost Craig breen, who was 2020 ones winner. Then we lost home hero. Who was 17 seconds up the road from everybody else. And that is how it tanak managed to capitalize on his teammates demise and from then on. He had an 8 second lead head of Evans at that point. That gap was pretty much maintained, but it could have been the other way around. You mentioned issues for Evans. He had a penalty at one point as well, that's not remind him about that because that could. Well, that could have given him the win. Yeah, that's a very good point. We should talk about elephant. Throughout the rally and it's just been a sort of recurring theme he's just not jelling quite as well with this car as he was last year. But again, it follows a similar story of he gets better and better as a rally goes on. He gets more confident, finds the setup that he wants, and by the end of it, you kind of wish I wish he had that kind of drive at the start because it could have been a completely different event. If you look at the time of the deficit between him and tonic at the end, it was 5 seconds. And you have to remember he had ten seconds of that was a penalty. So you can see you would take that penalty away. It could be a different picture, but we should also mention that that was a very rare penalty. It was a co driver error from Scott Martin who will hear from on gravel notes in a next podcast when we talk about the co driving feature that we're going to do later this month. So we'll hear in debt from him just how tough this gear is. But yeah, in this situation, he made an error that you probably would make once in four years. It's not something that ever is such a rare mistake. So Alfred rightly wasn't too critical and didn't did not really criticize Scott at all and just said that these things have this one of those things that just happens. So fair play itself and for that because someone could another person could take that completely differently and say, well, that cost me the victory, but it did not go down that route at all. So fair play to Ralph and for that. But yes, he performed really strongly and you have to remember, this is his fourth second place finish now. And when you think about what we were talking about earlier in the season when we were like, this is not going well for elephant. He's now probably one of the most consistent performers. He just hasn't had that victory that four second places, which is more than anyone else. So he just he's getting closer, but he just can't quite get there and he's been beaten by what Robin bearer and three of those are now tanak in one. So yeah, he must feel like what if I got to do to get a win? And let's hear from him now talking afterwards on catching talent, let's have a listen. When did you
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"robin pere" Discussed on The Autosport Podcast
"Rally is our man Tom Howard. Wow, that was once again a weekend that absolutely delivered for some amazing racing. Yeah, an incredible rally. Again, it's just fun in the words to describe calorie rover Perry is now actually hard. I'm running out of adjectives. I'm running out of superlatives. It's just, it's just unbelievable. Like people are just genuinely stunned at what he's able to do and it's the key to this is the wet weather. This is where he's making the most impact. When it gets difficult and extreme, he's on a different or as Yara Matty Latvia the toe to boss said he's on another planet and he's absolutely correct because there is no one could touch him. Nobody can absolutely touch it. If you need anything to sort of justify or the skill that calorie romper is I would produce. Just go and watch the highlights from the power stage because that for me is probably that will be one of the drives of the season because I didn't need to push. Had a massive lead already, but there's 5 bonus points up for grabs. It was absolutely ridiculously wet to the point where SFI galapa actually described it as the craziest stage he's ever driven. That's how bad the conditions were. And he had the very similar conditions thereof in evidence and say, oh, you know, they were together in the road order. So elfin went slightly before him. So they started conditions weren't that different. But Kelly won the stage by 22.5 seconds over Evans, which is just unheard of. And it's just, I just don't know what to say anymore. He's just defying belief of what he's able to do in that car at the minute. And so that the car is reliable, but so, as the consistency of the driver as well, nothing seems. And he has had big offs. And coming through the series as well in WRC two, he had a big offer a few years ago where he landed on top of a spectator's car. And so it's not like he is impervious to making him mistake. But this season, his consistency just seems to keep delivering and delivering. Yeah, he's just, I think we spoke about it before. I think this was maybe Portugal where we just said he's just in this sort of flow zone where everything he is doing is just coming up gold. You know, it's just I think the best things to look at and you have to remember that each driver is a different driving styles, but if you compare the onboards of him with elfin Evans, it looks like Kelly's on a Sunday drive, like he's just so calm, so collected and yet performing miracles and doing things that you just can't believe he's doing, whereas elfin is just on the ragged edge, trying to get as much out of this car to try and keep up with Cali. Yeah, as I said, no one really can explain it. He's just he's on a different level. He's just at this point where he's so confident in the car. He's able to push where people just simply can't. And people can't say, well, it's just the machinery is better because he's beating his teammate because it was a one two photo again this weekend and with elf and Evans coming home in second tanak home hero tanak in the first of the Hyundai's in third, followed home by the closest championship rival, what does he know? I made a note of it over the weekend, 80 odd points, 83 points. Three points. Neuville is 83 points behind rather than in the fight for the championship. But like four minutes back in the second Hyundai. So it's not as if you can say, well, he's in superior machinery. And the Toyota is superior machinery in many conditions. He's just so good. And you know, it seems like now let's flip things around a little bit because on the last podcast, the second half we heard from the drivers and team managers, let's flip it round and hear from him right now because he's got that, if I can sort of use a bit of a cultural stereotype, that finish that finish thing going on, where he is brutally fast on the road. And yet when the Finns talk about their racing afterwards, it just sounds like they're so like they reclined, they're laid back. And he is so laid back when you hear him talk. Let's have a little listen here to Callie Robin pere talking after another win. Big 5 from the beginning with the guys opening the road and he had an elephant was all the time they are giving pressure also. So it was a nice vegan. Brokerage driving and United States is yeah, I think I haven't seen rains like this anywhere else before. It seemed that every time we had a break or road checks and there was some sunshine and stuff and then when we were on the start line it's always raining or something and yeah, quite extreme conditions a few times. An impressive final stage from you today. I saw that there was some rain before heavy rain for the guys then a bit less and less all the time for the last cars to come through. So yeah, I knew that there might be a chance for us to have a good position to start at the stage and India then I just push for it and the time was good. Okay, that's some of the press conference audio that they very kindly supplied to the auto sport podcast for us to use on the podcast today some Tom. So what do you make of some of the things that he talked about there after his win? You're right, he's typically understated. He must realize that what he's doing is phenomenal, but he's just so calm with it all. It's interesting in a way. It's kind of from a journal perspective. It's kind of, I suppose, a little bit annoying that he doesn't get more excited about what he's doing. But you have to buy it. You have to buy the fact that he's just so cool, calm collected. But I guess the point we need to make here is that the area where he is having a vantage is in these wet and slippery conditions. So three times elfin and Cali have gone up against each other for a rally win and the three times The Rain has come down in Portugal, Kenya, and now here he's just had something else that he can offer an elfin has no answer in reply. But he don't. But Evan started the weekend really well. He dominated early part of Friday. They absolutely. So just to recap that obviously elfin started Friday, he won 5 stages on the bounce and a lead of 19.9 seconds over Cali. Now, some of that was down to that was dry to begin with that the rally. So there was a bit of cleaning for Cali to do being first on the road, and you have to remember elfin was, I believe, 6th on the road. So he had a much better conditions. But yes, you're right. I often was in the zone and was looking very much like the elf and that we saw in Finland last year when he absolutely monster that event and won it. So there was genuine hope here that elf is elephant is going to do this. There's a very strong chance, but again, The Rain came down on that last stage on Friday and this is where Callie is so ruthless and clever is that he was because he was first on the road. It just worked slightly better in his favor in terms of the conditions were bad, but they got worse for the rest of the field. And he knew that and he could have just backed off because it was pretty slippery, but because he knew he was going to get worse. He decided to push. And that is where he got the 22.6
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"robin pere" Discussed on The Autosport Podcast
"And Tom's just off the phone, literally off the phone with Hyundai's boss, and I want to know if they can spill the beans on what they talked about. That's all coming up, make sure you keep listening. First of all, right, Tom. You're back in the country, you were struck down a bit in Kenya. So I just want to say again how we all appreciate your coverage. You battled through how long did it take to be fighting fit once you landed home? Yeah, thanks for that. It's nice kind words. But yeah, it probably did something a good week to get myself properly back together at whatever I ended up picking up out there was certainly didn't agree with my body. Oh goodness. Yeah. We're definitely in a much, much better situation than last week on my chassis rails have been straightened and I've got a new roll cage and I'm ready to go. Round 7 of the world rally championship in Estonia kicks off tomorrow as we record this in the evening, about just after 6 30 UK time, a couple of hours time difference to Estonia. Kenya's gravel was a car breaker. Tell us how the Estonian countryside just outside of their second city is going to be different for these rally cars. Yes, so it is a gravel rally, but this couldn't really be further removed from safari rally Kenya in some respects that you could say or how is it how can that possibly be? Well, in safari, the rally was on a much rougher gravel, but also it was punctuated by some deep sand called sand, which really did affect the cars. There was no sand here in Estonia, and the roads are much finer, smoother gravel, and a lot more crests and jumps and undulations fast, high speed corners, very little in the way of short and sharp turns. So it's a very different rally pretty much a sort of a real genuine sprint when it comes to rallying on gravel. So really different prospect for the teams. And they will probably be looking forward to this one as this is probably not so much a car breaker. Well, Toyota are led by wonder kid Robin pere. And I sound so old when I say that, but I'm trying to be respectful, but also point out that he is doing immense immense driving for his experiences age as well. They scored a one, two, three, four, which again is almost unheard of, but not unheard of. Complete domination there. It seems that Robin pair can start from anywhere and dazzle on any surface. As we go to Estonia this weekend, is he going to be favorite again because the home hero and 2019 champ I tanak? Well, he'll want to spoil the party and nobody has a better record in Estonia than him. But big but last year, when he came up against a 20 year old called Callie Robin parr, where he couldn't beat him. So what's the form book saying? Yeah, you've absolutely hit the mail by head there. Yeah, it's actually a very exciting prospect for all of us rally fans to see how this is going to pan out because as you say. Kelly Rothenberg is the man to beat at the moment four wins from 6 rounds so far. In fact, he's won. Half of all rallies since he got his first WRC win at Estonia last year. So he really has been the dominant force. He's won 6 or 12 rallies, which is pretty much unheard of in rallying. Looking at people like Loeb and OJ to be to be doing those sort of figures. But yes, you'd say, on paper, rather than pair a definitely one of the favorites after winning last year's event, but you can not rule out Santa 'cause you say four rally Estonia wins. This guy's got all the support he could possibly need in Estonia. He's possibly the most famous Estonian, that's how popular is over there. Definitely going to be a favorite, one to watch out for but again. It's all probably going to come down to higher and die and Toyota in terms of their cars because hollandaise we know reliability hasn't been very favorable this year, but they have been really testing hard on gravel and this is a really good opportunity from a smoother roads. This is a good chance for them to strike, but Toyota have unleashed an upgraded GR yaris this weekend. It's got a more powerful engine, a tweaked rear wing, and this is all because they want to combat high end eyes, top end speed, which is which is generated through a longer gear ratio and a much slightly more powerful engine. So as Toyota's technical director Tom Fowler put it, if you want to go in a straight line, you get a high end diet. If you want to go around corners, you have a Toyota. So this is why they've unleashed this engine upgrade. So it's going to be a fascinating situation and one person we should also talk about is Craig breen from M sport. He finished second in Estonia last year. So he will be among the favorites too. Just on tanakh though, do you think he'll feel the pressure of racing at home and to get the win? There will be some pressure definitely from the fans, but also he's probably so far back in the chapter now, 83 points. It's a real tall ass to the point where you could argue he has less pressure on him because he's so far back. He could probably let loose a bit more because he's got really nothing to lose. So I think in many ways, he might have a bit less pressure going into this one. And in terms of last year, you know, it was a bit I was a bit cheeky in my intro. He lost out because of two punctures and had no spare. So it's not like he was completely outclassed. By no, he wasn't. He also kind of it was self inflicted, shall we? Shall we say to some degree? He was pushing too hard, had a wild off, had a puncture, which was obviously after a partner that was sort of a surprising one. So yeah, it was one of those ones that was a bit a bit misfortunate, but again, if you had carried two spares with him, he would still be going and you never know you might well have won the rally. So you could argue that the tactics were perhaps slightly wrong and also you would eat suffered a bit of misfortune. Let's get back to the cars then, because that new package for Toyota in Estonia, that sounds to me ominous for their rivals, who are all trying to play catch up at the minute anyway. Yeah, Toyota have proven they've got the best car. It's pretty bulletproof. As we saw in safari rally in the toughest rally, they finished one, two, three, four. So they have a very reliable car and then for them to go and release another update, I'm sure the teams will be the other teams now spawn Hyundai will be pretty despondent about that. But it was a planned update frontier. They were always going to do this, so it's not like they should have been surprised about it, but it'll be interesting to see how that goes. You never know, as I said, the high end I and M sport. This could be a much more favorable, favorable situation for them. So I'm expecting a much closer fight this time around. What about, on a tank's teammates, Oliver Solberg, he was a winner here back in 2020. Could he be one to watch? And what about his fellow Hyundai driver, Thierry neuville? He's doing his best to keep Robin pair at least honest in the championship in second place. What do you think of those drivers? Yeah, Oliver Solberg, I think everyone would like to see him go well and perhaps snatch a first podium.
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"robin pere" Discussed on The Autosport Podcast
"Really happy for them. So yeah, to do what he's doing at 21 is phenomenal. It really is. In my eyes, he will dominate the sport. He will go on to dominate the sport for a long time. There's no question about it. He has got everything in his arsenal to do that. And what I really liked about Kelly's performance in Sweden was it was extremely controlled, but also incredibly fast and took risks where he knew he could take risks. So he was a very mature drive. And also, I think it's worth highlighting that on Sunday. My respect for him goes, it goes up massively because the service part was kind of skirting around the issues that are currently going on in Ukraine, but Cali made that pretty clear. It was in his thoughts with his speech after winning the event and saying that I didn't think he could celebrate this because of what is going on there. And no one was really brave enough to sort of come out and speak about it. And he did that without being prompted. I dug out the quote. It doesn't feel great to celebrate too much. It's been a really difficult weekend for people in Ukraine, and I wish them strength and hope. It's all I can do at this moment was his quote. Now, of course, Finland's got a big land border with Russia and of course, you know, for those that know how worldwide listeners of this podcast, of course, but if you go back in history, Finland has had to defend itself from Russia in the past. But here is someone. I try and think back to when I was 21. I was no way able to make a mature statement like that. This wasn't testing like Formula One had testing. And so there's less pressure, Vettel was able to say what he had. Max Verstappen, for instance, the new world champion in Formula One. I thought a very champions response. But this was testing that they had in Barcelona last week, and there's less pressure. In a Formula One weekend, in that white heat of competition, I don't think Formula One drivers would have spoken the way they did. Maybe, I don't know, I may be doing a disservice. I don't know. But it's difficult to say isn't it? But this was in the white heat of competition. He just won. He crossed the line. There was no jumping on top of the car. This is a sport that people look up to, not just kids looking up to, but we look at our sportsmen and women to inspire us to take a lead, whether that is through their dedication to sport their what they'll do to win, but in cases like this, this is where sport is important. It's not just going racing at the weekend as a bit of entertainment. It's really important. Was that recognized when you're in Sweden, what did other people notice what you noticed was trying to ask? Absolutely, absolutely. I think when we all heard that in the media room live, everyone sort of was quite I guess in a way, kind of proud that someone had come out and just said that because I think everyone was feeling a little bit uneasy at times. And to have the sort of consciousness to do that, just after finishing. I just found that very impressive. And he is a great role model, isn't he? I mean, I have to admire it. I just have to, like, very, very, very well said. And I think it was the right thing to say. And I just think you couldn't really, it just wouldn't have felt right, celebrating normally. They had to be something, you know, some actions. And to their credit, the FIA at the podium in the city center in Maya, they actually had a what they called a moment of solidarity for Ukraine. So it was a sort of minute silence type of thing when they called rough and pirro onto the ramp to officially collect his trophy because when he said what he said, that was once he just crossed the stage finish line. It wasn't actually at the official podium, so to speak. So my admiration for calorie Robin berries is sky high at the moment, really impressed by that. And it was a very nice story in a way that he won the event that his father, Harry Robin pere had won in 2001, and that was Harry's only ever WRC victory. So a nice like father like some moment. What a talent he is. There's plenty of articles out there about famous dynasties in motor racing. Whether it's in IndyCar or Formula One or father and sons and father and daughters rallying and stuff like that. But there is a sense to him that he has grown up in racing one of those countries where people start very young, racing on frozen lakes and stuff like that. Anyone from the Nordic countries, if they're in racing, they have not only started young, but they tend to have an understanding of their position in the world. Maybe it's because you live so close to death. I don't know that they think about it a lot because you do, like you say, he's so wise beyond his years. I'm glad that was reflected. I almost feel bad not talking about Neville and lappy in second and third because I think the story of Robin perra winning needs to be told alongside the story of Evans. Tell us how his weekend spiraled out of this control. Really strong Friday, really strong Friday. And he needed to get a result after Monty, where he made, I'm characteristic error and lost the podium..
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"robin pere" Discussed on The Autosport Podcast
"App for gravel notes and you'll find that for all our rally podcasts. We don't post edit everything here on the auto sport channel, but we will today. 21 year old Finnish driver Kelly Robin pere had his third rally win and the first one of the year with a dominant victory on the ice and the snow, the dramatic scenes of Sweden. And I'm here with our rally man, Tom Howard to talk all about it. You've just got back while we're recording this on Tuesday morning because you're back late last night. How was travel and stuff like that for you flying back from Sweden? Yeah, absolutely. No problems. I know there were some problems with British Airways affected RF one team, but luckily by then they'd all cleared up. So it was a relatively smooth couple of flights back given that I was in the middle of nowhere really in Sweden, so I had to get an internal flight back to Stockholm, but yeah, lovely lovely chip bag. And from our preview podcast, all the listeners want to know, did the thermal underwear do its job? I'll tell you what. I'm so glad I spent the money. I'm so glad. It was -9 most days. As the coldest I've ever been, and yeah, to be walking around without that, I think I would have really struggled. So absolute stroke of genius there to go and purchase that. So yeah, no. I'm still I'm still very much alive and functioning. All right, now our listeners have got plenty to hear from you about today, a flying Finn and a flying finish as well. I almost don't know where to start. Now you said on the preview podcast again, you know, any rally is going to have to go some to beat Monty, round one. And we'd agree with you for that. But this was a hell of a follow-up act, wasn't it? What a great weekend of rally. A brilliant follow-up act, as you say, and, you know, there were some sort of a bit, I guess some fears that were quite live up to what was at Monty and Monty was something special and I think we should just put that to one side forever really is as a one off. This was very good what we had at the weekend, but not quite Monte Carlo levels, but what we did see was an absolutely fascinating battle for three days. Unfortunately, kind of, it kind of petered out on Sunday, but Friday, it was an absolute joy to watch. 6 cars all in contention with ten seconds separating them. Incredible, really. And to see Hyundai back on the pace, what a turnaround they produced because after Monte Carlo, it was an absolute horror show. They were on the pace so they even won the first stage of Sweden and we were like, okay, but they are here to party. They are back. And they would definitely back. So it was a great rally. Midway through Saturday, we had 3.2 seconds covering the top four. That was how close it was. So it was a really brilliant event, I'd say a good call to move it north from its old venue in karlstad, lots and lots of snow in this new Umayyad region. Brilliant event and I have to say hats off to calorie revenue pair of the winner. That was in many ways and I also said this in a feature that will go live today. This could be perhaps his most telling victory because he did it by opening the road. So now he's now his chalked off that of his list of winning a rally by starting it first on the road, which is the hardest thing to do and something that Sebastian knows you has made an art form of. So to now tick that off. This is all you really probably needed to prove to be an actual title contender now. So it was a marvelous drive. Obviously, he's familiar with the conditions, being a fin, but take nothing away from him. It was an excellent performance to be to end Friday after opening a road in second, 4.3 seconds after behind Neville, marvelous achievement really was what did it for him really was Saturday's night stages. He was simply superb. The footage is incredible, which we posted on social media of him just full on the limit at night in the snow, narrow roads, it's just mind-blowing, even Carlos Sainz, the two time world champion comedy on social media saying that this is this is special, like what we're seeing here. And yeah, it was so ultimately rob pair of one on Sunday by 22 seconds quite a margin over naville who obviously super happy to get a podium for he and day after the railway at Monte Carlo, but you had to feel for Evans because he pushed Cali all the way on satellite as I'm sure we'll talk about a bit more detail here quite say bizarre moment and then a subsequent penalty and on Sunday it all sort of fell apart from. So an awesome rally, but there's plenty of talking points. Yeah, we will get onto Evans because it was almost a case of world do we start with Robin pair or do we which was the stunning victory? Or do we start with Evans, which was going into it, some would have made him their favorite. It was one that he needs to compartmentalize and just never think about this weekend. Again, once he's fully processed, but we will get on to him in a second. Look, let's talk about Callie Robin. First of all, 21 years old, grown up in a rally family. I don't see 21 as being particularly young in a greater motor sport kind of context. We see plenty of amazing drives from teenagers in a rally perspective, and I guess coming after granddad winning in Monte Carlo. The kid has won in Sweden, which for a 21 year old took to win rally Sweden. If people don't understand listening to this might be on the auto sport podcast channel, they were more of a lighter rally fan. It's a really, really big deal for him to do it in a dominant way to an didn't need to announce that he's here once he rallies last two rounds last year, but to do that in a way which was so dominant so controlled and is it fair to say so much of a mature composed drive as well should probably worry the rest of the field. I think that the rest of the field will be wired after this. We were all known about the talent that Callie Robin Perez had for the last few years. And last year he really burst on the scene by winning those two rallies and becoming the youngest ever winner of the WRC event..