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"robin drake" Discussed on Nobody Told Me!
"Welcome to nobody told me. I'm jan black. And i'm laura owens with us on this episode is robin drake former head of the fbi's behavioral analysis program and a recognized expert in the field of interpersonal. Communication robin is also the founder and president of people formula an organization that offers advanced report building training and consultation and robin is the author of several books including the code of trust and american counterintelligence experts. Five rules to lead and succeed. Robyn thank you so much for joining us today. I'm really to to you about you. The former head of the fbi counter intelligence behavioral analysis program. What exactly did that job entail. It sounds very interesting You know when you first do anything it sounds like it's really complicated And that's kind of where everything originated from so the properly entailed you know working with case agents special agents across the field and ask the i that worked out our intelligence and they come to us. Requests on their cases you know whether they need a strategy for trying to recruit a spy or double agent operation or interview strategies or false flags all the hooky spooky spy stuff which is still very alive and well You know it can seem like. It's an overwhelming daunting things. Like how do you do all these different things born and took a step back Years ago number of years ago and try to co fi it because someone else meet. Write an article about it I quickly realized was all. I was strategizing every time we did a consultation or anytime i worked any of my own cases. Strategizing trust honest genuine. Trust with no manipulation deception. Just trust because everything in life That happens whether it's at home or work or anywhere is based so that. That's the bottom line of what i was actually doing. So everyone thinks you know or might think that the world of counterintelligence or spies bursts dive is all this deception and everything. Some might do that. But i've found the most successful ways forward in life whether it's at work or home with your children or in any job is to have good healthy relationships and that's always based on trust. But how do you become an expert in terms of behavior analysis..
"robin drake" Discussed on The Jordan Harbinger Show
"Now here's Robin Drake Robin. Thanks for coming back on the show. It's been awhile and this is the book. I kinda hoped you would right after retiring from the FBI. Thanks his great being back with you again. It's been a lot of years in early concept in the book was that people often lied to themselves and spread that lie around thought. This is really fascinating insight because a lot of folks in that case lead other people almost by accident the question you ask yourself is. How often have you met someone who was supposed to be great at something and wasn't my kind of gut reaction to this and I think a lot of people's is this person Kanda me or they lied to me but really they're lying to themselves as well? They actually believe their own. Is that something you find his common among humanity in general? Yeah pretty much because you know the way you more eloquently said it in the book but in real life the way I really look at is how many people are actually truly self aware because if your self aware you stop lying to yourself because you'd look over your own insecurities and when you look over your own insecurities you can see yourself who you are the good the bad the imperfect and ugly and you can do the same with others without judging them either because you just see clarity in life and clarity and people no good. No bad just is and so. That's what that's about now. You've got this list of what would you say? These are these qualities vesting longevity reliability action language stability. Are these sort of factors for deciding whether you can trust someone. What are these concepts here there? Vectors and signs. You know each one of these. Things is built out to be assigned for understanding someone at a deeper level. Because once you understand someone at that deeper level you get a better idea of what you can reasonably expect. They're going to do and that's what I call you know. Some people call that trust. I call it predictability because that's what this book's really truly about about predicting the behaviors of others in mccomb vectors for you for the sole purpose of understanding how to build even a deeper stronger relationship because as you've known me all these years it's all about strong healthy relationships and everything I've ever done and work towards how do you do that. How do you proactively make good healthy strong relationships? Because without those things you're not gonNA achieve anything in life and there's no better time right now than the understand. That relationships are going to be the key in everything. This system seems helpful for a drama and protecting ourselves from flakes protecting ourselves from manipulators. You've mentioned that people can relied on to act in their own. Best interest in this at first sounds a little cynical but I guess it makes sense. Is it cynical? Why not if not definitely not cynical to me when I do all my talks and speaking and everything now we say that I said I can predict what every human being is always going to do. We're all going always act in our own best interest in terms of safety security prosperity for ourselves and our family for a little more altruistic community little more even bigger than that but the key to that is not what you think. Their safety security and prosperity is from their point of view. So if I can take time to understand what they think is in their best interests. I know what they're going to do. This whole system forces you to alternately for others understand them without judging them at a very deep level speaking of predicting what people are GonNa do. Predictability comes first and trust follow. So does this mean that if we can predict what someone's going to do that's an indication that we can trust what they're going to do because we kind of know already what that action will be most likely you know because once you observe someone doing something at least once twice or three times the likelihood of them continuing that way and predicted slash trust them is pretty high unless you have new outside stimulus and so again. That's why I love the system because you no longer rely on hope. Oh I hope they'll do something different next time. We'll why would they know unless there's a reason in their lies that would change behavior? The behavior is most likely not going to change his so now. I can predict what they're going to do. I can set my bar to certain level. And they're either going to meet or exceed it because I took the time to reasonably assess what they're going to do and now the great thing here is if they fall short of that that means something happened in their lives and I need to understand what it is so it manages my own expectations of them. So again I don't get the railed I don't get emotionally hijacked. I can maintain that great relationship. You acquired a term called stem. Pathy what is that? Sympathy is something that I've been doing for a number years and I didn't realize it it's a combination of stoicism and not the STOIC. Says Synnex necessarily but stoicism from the point of view of just observing behavior and cause and effect so with human beings. There's two truth. I basically base everything on that is very tribal by genetic symbolically that we want to belong to meaningful groups and organizations would be valued by the same. Our brain rewards for these behaviors in the second. One is what I said earlier in. That is role acting our own best interests. And so when you combine those things together you can observe behavior and understand the cause and effect which is very stoic. So that's where the stemp comes from while the stir and the empathy part is when you do these things you're actually understanding people at a very very very deep level which is empathy and human beings craving. We seek that empathy so when you combine the two together vob survey objectively and the fact that you're actually gaining empathy. You get sympathy. Can you tell us about Russian? Double Agent Contacts. This is how you learned that other. People's perspectives are the only ones that matter. I thought this is kind of a fascinating story because I think every sales guy has learned this but you were in the business of. What would you say selling people on the idea of sometimes even betraying their country? Is that fair? No so that's a great question though. I generally start up by asking people all. So how do you recruit a Russian spy and people are thinking it's money or you're going to use coercion. You're going to get them to betray something and it's nothing further from the truth. It's just like sales so for me. I called the hardest sales job in the entire world because my job in the FBI. Working Counterintelligence was I was selling concept. I was selling American patriotism so matchy selling not even a tangible thing. I'm selling an idea. So that's my product in my potential clients are Russian intelligence officers and so I always say the first challenge is how many of those Russian intelligence officers which are foreign diplomats under here under diplomatic cover want to buy that product so therein lies your first challenge and then the second challenges by treaty. It's a legal for me. To actively approach him engage in a conversation so the greatest challenges they don't want to buy the product and the second challenge is. I'm not leaving to try to sell it to him. So that brings you to so. Actually how do you actually do that? Then well it's very simple the same thing. Anyone in sales does salespeople. All they're trying to do is understand. What the priorities. That person is in other words. There needs wants dreams and aspirations and they offer them resources that they have as a service or a product in terms of that person's priorities and so that's all my job was. My job was to discover the priorities of these intelligence officers. I was tasked to try to sell my product to see if anyone wants to buy it and the ones that generally come on board in willing to buy that product you know like a dying wish a grandmother or grandfather. Father relative that their children wouldn't grow up under some horrible regime somewhere and they want a better life with better education..
"robin drake" Discussed on Order of Man: Protect | Provide | Preside
"To become a more effective strong and capable father husband business owner community leader in every other role that you want to fill that you want to step into that. You want to be proud and incapable of doing so. So we've got like I said this podcast where we're interviewing just incredible. Men Today have got Robin Drake. He is a FBI behavior analyst. We're going to get into that in just a minute. But we've had other men on the podcast like Giaga willink and David Gugans. And Andy Facility. Dave Rubin. We just had on the PODCAST. Brian rose Sean whalen came on last week. Tim Kennedy We've got Matt Fraser. Coming on soon. John Eldridge the lineup of men. That have joined us is phenomenal. And I think that's because these men see the power of having these types of conversations and not only just the conversations but calling you to take action in your life towards the types of information that we're talking about sharing here so I want to welcome you. I'm glad you're here. If you would please leave us. A rating and review we're going to have a rating and reviews contest here in. I believe we're GONNA do it for the month of June. So I'll give you the details and information on that and by the way if you do give us or leave rating review before June. You're still going to be entered for that contest. All the details. Not a big deal. We just WanNa make sure you covered and also if you would with ratings reviews. It's important because it goes such a long way in promoting what we're doing here so if you've ever got any value from what we're doing sheriff liberating review easy things to do. Great Way to say thank you also great way to give other people information that hopefully has served you so with that said. I want to introduce my guest here. Just one second. I do want to make a mention of our show sponsors origin main. You've heard me talk about them now for probably over a year in fact I moved to Maine. I think it's this week one year ago so I've been here for exactly your family And I couldn't be more honored and proud to call the people at origin My friends they make geeze and rash guards mostly. They started with Jujitsu apparel not so much anymore because they've moved into the nutritional lineup That's partnered up with Jaakko willing. They'd got disciplined joint warfare. Which is my favorite product. They've got their Super Krill. They've got disciplined go. Which is their cognitive enhancing. Energy Drink They've got it all. Go check it out over there. At origin. Main origin main is in the state main. Join their Their club they have a monthly subscription club. Make sure or anything else. Just make sure you use the code order or D. E. R. at checkout and you'll get a discount when you do again origin main dot com use the code order. Oh our DR at checkout guys. Let's get into this conversation. I told you already. My guest names is Robin Drake. He's been more than two decades as a behavior analyst for the FBI and he's still dealt with extremely complicated in complex situations from handling Russian spies the navigating all the politics within the bureau. He's written three books. One is it's not all about me. The second one is the code of trust and then his latest book which is sizing people up and in this one he shares a six step system that he developed to predict anyone's behavior based on their words their goals their actions and the situation. In which you may find yourself. This was such a fascinating discussion very very fascinating discussion and one that if the lessons are applied in your life. I believe will drastically improve every facet of of your life. So take notes if you need to pick up a copy of the book but for now just tune in and enjoy the conversation with me and Robin. Yeah I mean you talk about marketing but you actually have an advantage. I think because you understand the human psychology element of it which is just packaging. Marketing is just packaging human psychology. And you would think so. You know it was really interesting. You know what I'm doing. I'm doing a lot of online classes for it. And and I record every time. See One of these experts in marketing. You knows that because it is a difference you know. It's a very specific skill set but I see the overlap of all my content which is all about talking in terms of the customer. Talk in terms of other people so once they see it. I recognize it but because I'm used to one on one engagements were pure trust and pure relationship development. It's more of because I'm more on the customer relationship end sales building side and not on the marketing side. So it is. It's slightly different for some so once I see at once I'm like Oh yeah I got that you know I'm you know so it's one of those things like. Oh yeah that makes sense that makes sense that makes sense because it fits my my model same time when you haven't seen it kind of packaged that way before you're like So yeah I can see how it would. That would be a little bit of a of a hang up. I think like you said once you figure it out like you've got it down you understand it you know then there's also the are people going to resonate with this right which is packaging it. In a way that's consumable so you might understand the human psychology element of it like what would drive somebody. Fear or joy positive benefits or negative ramifications. Now how do we make it? Pretty people want to engage in it and that that that is a challenging thing for sure and also just coming up because I've never had to do ads before anything else and so you know I have the scaling up I'm going to do is I do have an email list. I do have people that have taken my course in the past so I have those leads to start with but then I you know. I've I've done the research on take another Webinar and how to use lengthens I do get most of my speaking business does come through lengthened so now. I'M GONNA try to see if I can maximize as anyways. It's a fun. Learning Process gives me some do every day. That's for sure definitely well. I've enjoyed your work. I haven't been familiar with that for too long. But I read the book sizing people up and Yeah no. Thank you for sending it. I'm glad to be able to have this conversation. I actually am really curious and I think this will set the set. The tone for the conversation obviously used the term sizing people up and it makes sense but it also has a little bit of a negative connotation which hopefully capture somebody to want to be engaged in this. I think people could rush to the conclusion. That if you're using some of these I don't know tactics is the right word or strategies that you might be doing something that's negative as opposed to. Hey this can actually be very positive thing. Yeah as a matter of fact. That was the reason it was funny. You know when you're work with publisher and a marketing team there when they don't read the actual content of the book and they try to come up with cover design for you and they think it's a book about manipulation. Yeah you'd be shocked at some of the things they I sent out to me and I was like new. I mean they had this really dark silhouetted image with black and red. In autumn words on the front were completely different like a freaks. Have you ever actually read this book this book so yes with sizing people up and from a counterintelligence Behavioral Guy? Your thank goodness the book about learning how to manipulate more understand manipulators or something like that ends as you've read it as you know it's anything further from the truth in that this is about understanding people at a very very deep level. You know much deeper than you normally do with very clear purpose because if you understand people at the deep level the the real purposes how you create and maintain a great healthy relationship if I can start reasonably predict what you're going to do in all these different situations in life and all these different lanes that were engaging with it now gives me the ability to manage my expectations of what I can reuse may expect from you as I'd like to try to take the subjective side of liking someone which creates some real bias fraught with some potential downsides and that being you know if I like someone I think I can trust them to do everything right. Which is wrong. I mean so. Liking is basically generally based upon our our personal subjective observations of commonalities of interests morals ethics beliefs locality all. These things goes into the LIKING BIAS. And unfortunately we think if we'd like someone we can trust someone who well no. I. I have some really great friends that I'd like dearly and I happen to be a pilot but I couldn't throw them the keys to a plane that I rent and actually trust them to keep me from dying if they're flying that plane because that's a different lane There in so that's why I like to try to segregate out the liking bias from the objective observation of what can I reasonably predict? You're going to do in each these lanes and most important thing. There is just because I can predict. You're going to perform and do well in one area doesn't mean you're going to do well in all areas Is What happens if you have this expectation of while. I just hope they'll do well. We'll the national such failure as well because hope can be very dangerous things well Kaz hope. Generally as human beings set a bar for hoped way up here and people generally fall in under it. Yes false expectations at the way other people performance show absolutely when that happens. Then what happens to you? Angry resentful frustrated all the negative emotions. Pour it in your brain directed at individual because you had not cognitively really thought through what kind reasonably expect. They're going to do because now when you do this process. It's all about understanding what they will do at a very deep level in so they're either going to meet the bar that you manage your expectations for exceed that bar and now if they happen to fall short of it that's okay because you no longer angry because you spend so much time trying to understand him you know that something must have gone sideways in their lives. So now you say oh now. You have empathy and compassion. Because our it's something happened you know. What can I do to be a resource view? So that that's the whole purpose this entire thing. I think even having these expectations not only will it? Set yourself up for failure. I just don't think it's fair to another individual the context I think about it. Is You know my wife or my children. If I have their expectation of and they fall short of that I've set the bar right here and that may be realistic. But most of the time it's unrealistic and then they inevitably fall short because people fall short including US and then we hold ill-will to that individual and in all reality it was our fault for maybe setting the bar here and not giving them the training or the information or the communication required to succeed. I've seen it in. You know where I see it a lot actually more recently than maybe in the past is actors and politicians like we think that because these individuals like a politician shows up with sue. It's very polished. And the way that they deliver a message that they know everything about everything or we see an actor who we really like and we think because we have an affinity with that individual or the role that they played that somehow they're qualified to talk about politics or any number of issues that they may know nothing about absolutely couldn't considered better at you know and especially when you're dealing with family friends or even close associates at work when you What happens is you set that bar so high and they inevitably come in under it..
"robin drake" Discussed on Top 5 Comics Podcast
"I guess the knife-fights same idea we are so they show up and belting teen teen lantern and Jeannie Hex out her both having trouble fighting there other victims and Connor at the same time evil connor. Anyway Ashley. The team splits up from during the battle and our og young justice go off against themselves then leaves the young lanes against their. I really hate young wings. As word it leaves the new members of young justice to fight their counterparts in this world initially half. I'm thinking they were just abandoned. But that's not the truth. Then Jimmy Hex opens the trunk right and because this is her backstory issue. Mcmasters she was. T- lantern assumes hers. She finally figured out. There's a bunch of really rad things in there and like cassie. The evil wonder girl was like I told you. Shut down where she figured out what she had and then she's just like she figures out what she has. She comes in and saves the day and everybody just wolf's mass and they just use whatever one of the powers may may make or grow we see inside of the trunk for a second we see will Lithuania classic. Dial which will matter when we get to the next book but yet you wind up using one of the elements that let grow. Giants is like gigantic almost bugging dial like a bunch of books like towels men like several ray guns like John Laden. Make Adam. Strange Reagan's which is why a bow tie like wrapped around like some stuff had on a belt like with an atom right which could be a million different things was probably like one of the atoms belts to let her shrink possibly later see while she wants. He's the growing power and it used a divide power from something that makes a whole lot of different versions of her that have different abilities and powers. So it's crazy. It's Kinda freaking awesome. But it's crazy because it just goes from one January to be giant. Evan like five other versions and Yeah they clearly number the evil young tests and the from their pre vigil. Eastep may help some leave. And there's a weird. There's an goodbye before Robin Drake so artem and her and like it's a weird heartfelt like she sad he's leaving and of course he's well before they even say goodbye she pushes the button and sends them yeah and then like the last scene is her crying. 'cause she's like every every basically every version of. Stephanie is in love with every version of Tim kind of thing. That's well it's like. Yeah just like their dislike. That's Star strep levers from every dimension covering because I've always liked it I was like that character like Like she she was even supposed to be barren told him known he like still brought her under his wing right and he even said no for minute and like she's still Kinda did and then he's fine fine at a one point. That man is higher self from being dead. I won't band broader on as Robin to his Tim Right. Which is awesome female? The first female Robin for timeline sake. Anti base lease him like two days. Which her costume Soubra. It's great like her costumes. Amazing your costumers on the best like I as a female robin costume. So good but yeah. I made by basically letter drive. The car or sit in the car is what really happened. And that was just to make tim so angry. Came back by actually. She's killed by a black mask and for longest. I'm until they raccoon that that was the truth and then eventually turned out the Batman older. You mean to stay on because too dangerous for your kid and he let everyone believe she was dead. Which is what was the original. Rift between ten Bruce Because.
"robin drake" Discussed on Biz Talk Radio
"What can they do or what can you do even if you're heading to a different sporting event or even even if you're heading to church what can you do to keep yourself safe when you're in a big crowd and around people that may be trying to do you harm well I had a chance to catch up with robin Drake he's a former head of the FBI's counterintelligence behavioral analysis program he also has a new book out titled sizing people up and one of the things I ask him was for some tips on what we can do it for in a large venue how we can keep ourselves states and be aware of our surroundings you kissing and do what you just I think the most important thing to do is take an assessment of what normal is and what normal people are doing in those types of situations what they're dressed like what they're acting like the tempo of their bodies and movements and proximity to each other and things are carrying yes see if you take a good you know take a step back take a look around yourself whether it be church in a movie there in a mall and just seeing anything stands out from the crowd and if it does that's when you start just assessing all right is this why just ask for that use up those why questions and if it looks to be spike the note behavior are pretty high that's when you the contract law enforcement contacted professional some way for more news you can find us online at USA radio dot com or on Facebook at U. S. A. radio for USA radio news I'm Tim Berg I don't even recognize myself anymore I'm really worried about him the technician it seemed like after I never want to start using I I knew the drill but I was out of options I.
"robin drake" Discussed on The Jordan Harbinger Show
"Com slash youtube. There are also worksheets for each episode. So you can review what you've learned here from. Ach say none of that's at Jordan. Harbinger injured dot com in the show. Notes we've also got transcripts for each episode and those can also be found in the show notes. Were teaching you how to connect with great people and manage relationships tips using systems and tiny habits over at six minute networking. That's our free course. Over at Jordan harbinger dot com slash. Course now you'll do it later right I get it. I've heard it all all before but you gotta dig the well before you get thirsty. Once you need relationships you are way too late. These drills take a few minutes a day. I wish I had started twenty years ago. You can either put it off off even further or do you can start right now. It's not fluff. It is crucial. And it's free Jordan. Harbinger dot com slash course and by the way most of the guests on the show they subscribe at the course in the newsletter succumb. Join us. You'll be in smart company in fact why not reach out to auction Nevada and tell him you enjoyed this episode of the show show guests love hearing from you and you never know what might shakeout that. Speaking of building relationships you can always reach out or follow me on social. I'm Jordan Harbinger on twitter and instagram. This show is created in association with podcast one. This episode was produced by John. Harbinger Jason to Filipo and edited by J Sanderson Charlotte's worksheets. By Robert Fogerty Music by Evan Viola. And I'm your host Jordan Harbinger our advice and opinions and those of our guests are their own and yes. I'm a lawyer but I am not your lawyer. Sue Your own research before implementing anything you hear on the show and remember we we rise by lifting others. The fee for the show is that you share it with friends when you find something useful or interesting that should be in every episode so please share the show with those you love and even those you don't in the meantime do your best to apply what you hear on the show. She can live what you listen and we'll see you next time. If you WanNa make twenty twenty the year you finally really get ahead. Listen up our friend. Chris had neck is hosting an awesome training event. This February in Orlando called the human hacking conference. You can train for hours with the master's Chris Himself Learns Earns From and works with like Joe. Navarro Ian Rowland are Paul Wilson Robin Drake Dove Baron..
"robin drake" Discussed on The Ziglar Show
"I thought or a feeling but you know I feel like so much of the threat here that I did not foresee for this discussion. Is that PAT awareness of self and of who we are talking with and having to your message having some understanding banning of the framework of good conversations of good communication again whether you're on stage and we talked about that in the first one this strategy of you know when you're when you're onstage talking to people I don't have a bunch of junk on screen behind you have an image. Maybe they can't have to say. This is brilliant stuff that that's the same thing that we need to understand all the way down from The group meetings to the one on one that there are if we want the best success the highest the highest success there are strategies that we can employ Loyd so hopefully. It's not overwhelming to people. It is I think that the message to me that we talked about here should be free to go. Gosh there's hope I can do better. And what's good. What is everyone who who made a comment on your facebook? Sounds very much like. They're aware their self aware. And that's it is once awareness with acceptance whatever way that is is acceptance that cool not GonNa Change Your acceptance that yet. I'M GONNA put in the work to changes awareness and acceptance is all we can ask for and then you just play in that realm mm-hmm when you know who you are. You try things and you say. Does this work now not going to do that again. Did this work. Oh it did. I'm GONNA play more with that and then you just build your own system. It's great. Hey thank thank you again for being with US third time. I hope that this helps people digest this more and have that hope and that they can go and craft better communication commanded. Thank you for your message and forgiveness your time. Now thank you I always love it. You're always great to chat with Thanks Jude so how do you feel you. Rate in speaking and communicating to groups and individuals. Trust this show delivers some equipping information to you and again I really really really recommend you check out jared Kuni whore baths book. Stop talking. Start influencing you'll learn even more than you have on shows I've done with them all right coming up in episode seven forty one judge not and win hearts so an FBI special agent whose job was gaining aning. Trust and catching and recruiting spies shares his relational strategy at home to win his family's hearts now. That's just intriguing. Will Robin Drake. He was my guest and show seven thirty nine. We talked about the specific truths and methodologies he employed as a master in behavioral analysis assists Robbins testimony family relationships based upon never judging or criticizing is just one of the most inspiring and convicting things that I've heard period in a long while it is giving others what we all long for that you're GonNa want to hear the details. He shares this and more in the habits. Show where I walk. Robin through the seven spokes in the ziglar wheel of life. Robin is a sought after speaker. You're live events and working with business. Owners doing internal leadership customer relations and sales. You can connect with him at people. Formula Dot com where he offers training and and find his book. The CODA trust wherever you get books but this next show. You aren't GonNa want to miss so till then folks as always thank you for walking with me as we inspire are true performance. Together Today's episode is brought to you by Cronos. Provides eight are solutions for the modern workforce and.
"robin drake" Discussed on The Ziglar Show
"They need to get the results they want in this episode. Become the drug of choice the house for a title in any conversation you could become a constant dopamine hit for the other person how by making them the topic not you but can you do it. Can you resist the temptation. We all have to talk about ourselves and express our opinions and our experiences so we can get our own dopamine hit second. Can you skillfully keep the focus on the other person with authenticity. And this was a necessary skill. Offer Robin Drake as special agent in the FBI to catch and recruit spies. He became a master and behavioral analysis and applied his expertise not in interpersonal communication relationship building. And Trust these skills are used in everyday in leadership sales human resources and all aspects of life. Both business or personal say are used they should be used if you WANNA do it. Effectively and successfully. And this is what we dig into in this episode from Robin's role with spies right into his home and how much it impacts his role as a husband and Father Robin however is not just skillful of mind. However I ask ask about really personal and heart level issues? I think this brought out some of the most valuable issues of the conversation issues that are relevant to all of us and that we can apply right. Now now it's convicting to hear methodologies like this that are verified but the gravity of literal life and death situations and I think what you will hear in this conversation will make a Lotta Sense. You'll find yourself thinking..
"robin drake" Discussed on WIBC 93.1FM
"Events come. And thousands upon thousands of people come to any large-scale sporting event. There are some problems that follow tiny cats. Ninety-three WIBC. Good morning. And in these big scale events, there is a problem not only. With people looking to have too good of a time. There is actual sex trafficking, that takes place in these areas Super Bowl NBA all-star or or championship types of games. It's horrific and it happens, Robin Drake. A twenty one year FBI veteran executive with the innocent lives foundation that works to help law enforcement agencies, unmask child predators, he joins us right now and Robin, it's you know, it's one of the ugly side effects of such great fantastic times is that there's some terrible people out there doing some horrific things. Yeah, absolutely Tony. Thanks for having me on. Unfortunately, you're absolutely correct. Anytime you have a great tourist of vents you know, that's going to celebrate something. You're going to have people trying to explain that opportunity as well. So when we talk about the very. Concept of sex trafficking. We're talking about all types of people, including underage. How does it work? How does how does it? How do you see it happening? You mean how were they groomed into it or not? How do they how is it happening where people are finding these people at these large scale events like the Indy five hundred. How does that happen? Well, I, I will talk about how they get into it briefly, and that is, you know, online gaming platform social media. You know, these, these predators will find ways to anonymously get into these people's lives, and exploit vulnerabilities, and insecurities and make these lavish promises, and they're basically, the friend them at a lower level, and then they Shane them or threaten them at some point to, to go worse than end to join, you know, their sex trafficking, calm, you know, and it happens many ways, whether it's domestically or abroad, you know, there's all, it's all June generally starts these lavish promises of, of something that's missing in this person's lives. Now, what happens during events like this, you'll be these predators have great ways to try to keep ahead of law enforcement, creating new keywords, or phrases, and they'll POS ads and like Craigslist or Facebook or anything like that, that surrounds an event, and they'll have these key words in there that will basically be advertise. Hey, this is this is what I can offer you, and this is how to get a hold of me, and they're constantly shifting to try to stay law enforcement. But that's what, you know, my team of my security professionals work on relentlessly, as you know, identifying these advertisements identifying these anonymous people and using their great skills to actually come up with true names and handed over to law enforcement talking to Robin Drake innocent lives foundation, Twenty-one year, FBI veteran, working on this assessment of trafficking, and we talk about a twenty seven percent as you have the numbers there. According to the national human trafficking hotline are minors. So if you're somebody attending the five hundred the things that you're, you're you tell people you advise people. Hey, beyond the lookout for this. Hey, keep an eye on that. Here's a sign. Here's a towel things like that. Yeah. Absolutely. So it's most common in easy thing to observe is if you see an older guy, you know, anywhere from probably twenty thirty or forty and you see younger girls with him. That's the first sign it, basically this, you know, people, you know, I'm behaviorist and Deepal form knoll patterns of human behavior when you go to an event like the Indy five hundred you're going to have a lot of normal patterns of human behavior about how people interacting how they're looking around how they're walking the streets and when people are doing things that are off in different. They're usually a reason it's usually caused from stress anxiety discontent and there's something going on. So when you see things like that, and it's why they always say that, you see, say, see something, say something if you're seeing some odd off behavior at just doesn't quite fit in with the rest. There's no harm or foul. Just report it to someone you know, reports law enforcement avenue. Check it out, you know, and because it looks odd it probably is now could be. Completely normal as well but it, it costs you nothing to do it. No one gets hurt. No one gets damaged. But this is how you can lease recognize it in public spaces is, is if you see odd patterns of behavior with with younger girls. That, that's a that's a good. I sign the I'm it's not that I'm not a believer in see something say something. But it's always that fine line of de report that is that something that's actually strange because you don't want to be, you know, somebody who's abusing somebody else in that way or being invasive, or deciding, then it's not right. Is there anything that you've come across where it's like if you see X? Here's something that I've seen I've noticed that has a bit of continuity in these cases. Yeah. And that's going to be like I just said that, that's the most common one is a fee, girls that just seem out of place with the guy that they're hanging around with or welcome the streets with that. That's going to be the first that's probably most common clue and wait approach law enforcement this, you know, if you're trade, that your diamond someone out, is she thought and opinion you know, I've done this many times, you know, with law enforcement, you know, when I'm when I'm not working, you know, if I see something looks a little off. I find a law enforcement officer, and I say, curiosity is that look normal to you? What do you think about that? It's just an opinion because it now 'cause he's more experienced and he actually has the ability to call in some other resources and take a look at if that's out of normal pattern because you're not walking up and said, hey, I think something's wrong there in diamond someone out. You're saying what do you think about that does that look normal to you and your experience, you know, and that way you just start a conversation where you get is on something that could be a little off Robin, Drake. Innocent lives foundation is what you're with innocent. It. Lives foundation dot ORG, one year, FBI veteran, appreciate you being with us talking about. It's a it's an ugly subject, but an important subject. Thank you so much. I appreciate it. I'm Tony cats..
"robin drake" Discussed on The Jordan Harbinger Show
"Now back to our show with Joe Navarro. Well in dangerous personalities, you give examples like this week typist that sold plans to the Soviets for the war. You know, just crazy. And I remember hearing from Robin Drake when Hanson was that FBI mole that was giving all those counterintelligence secrets to the Russians. He was just devastated because he knew him for years. I think they work together. Yeah. It and I I knew a Bobby Hanson. You know, and and it's such a stab in the back not just to us as agents personally. But to this this great nation, but years ago, when I was doing research, I heard from a female police officer who was in this toxic relationship, where her a spouse was, you know, you were we were talking earlier about narcissism, and he just over-valued himself was devaluing her, and, you know, here she. She is she's a police officer. And yet this this individual is just hammering every day packing at her intellectually, psychologically emotionally, and she was withering. And you know, and we were talking about how often does this kind of thing happened in his I set with an went through the checklist. And for the first time she began to realize my God, he's doing all these things in and and the validation that this is not normal. This is ABC normal that this is destructive. And she was able to then use something on paper that she could look at go to family and friends and say, I need help out of this relationship. I need everybody here to help me because I'm not strong enough. And I may wear a gun, but she felt like she. She couldn't do it. And eventually she she wasn't. And she thanked me for that. It's so it doesn't matter who you are what situation you're in. You know, sometimes we need validation. And that validation is is invaluable, especially when you can sit there, as you know, in the book, I talk about, you know, the the the case with the OJ Simpson and his wife, Nicole, how many times she had gone to the police reported that she was being beaten up abused and so forth, and yet nobody would would really listen in. What if she had had a checklist that she could come in with all these things checked off handed that to a law enforcement officer prosecutor and said, you better do something because these are the things that are being done to me. And in fact, I know of a case were that's exactly what the woman. Did. And she went to the local prosecutor with that..
"robin drake" Discussed on The Jordan Harbinger Show
"All right. Here's Joan of. Oh, this book really had me not sleeping so easily. I was reading it on a plane. And I thought oh my gosh. Some of these dangerous personalities. They're not it's not the kind of danger where you're like. Oh, yeah. This person, you know, he's walking down the street, and he's going to take my wallet. It's more dangerous and scarier because you start thinking about all these people in your life that you know, that have these qualities and you go oh my gosh. Is this person just hiding their crazy? Really really well, and I don't know about it. And I think that that's probably the case. Yeah. It's well, what you you begin to analyze everybody around you, the the constellation of friends you have and you wonder, okay. You know, I that one I had issues with and I saw these behaviors or that relationship didn't work out. And I saw these these things that that they were doing and now at it makes sense. And I think what it makes us realize is that there are a group of behaviors that when we see over and over in one individual, not occasionally, but all the time it makes us want to take a closer. Look and say, okay is this person healthy for me or are they toxic? And and that's the bottom line of the book yet. I think the bottom line of the book is giving us a practical. I won't say rubric because it's not really a diagnostic tool. But it kind of helps kind of helps clear the lend the fog off the lens of is this person dangerous or are we just not getting along. And I thought that was extremely useful. Well, I and I appreciate that. I, you know, from talking to victims one of the things that I found out was how difficult it is to get good advice from professionals a lot of them, you know, enough to to warrant this statement. They said that they would call a psychologist or psychiatrist wanting to know about their life partner this and that and the first question, they get is what insurance do you have right? Okay. And I'm not taking anything away from the profession. But imagine if you're just calling to to as one lady said, you know, I needed to know, if my husband was crazy, or if this paranoia was was transient or whatever. And the first question is well, do you have insurance and it went downhill from there? Because basically, they said, well, you know, he would have to call us. He would have to reach out to us and so forth. So I wanted to write something from talking to the victims that have suffered from these individuals by looking at the behaviors they describe, and as I, you know, as you know, I noted in in dangerous personalities that it sometimes these victims weren't eloquent, they weren't using terms of art. They're not picking up a words from the diagnostic and statistical manual there being forthright with their observations, but they're so accurate. And that's what I wanted to to convey in the book in dangerous personalities. You talk about identifying. Ng narcissist, especially the most malignant types emotionally, unstable personalities predators. And there are a couple more in there as well. But I really want to focus on narcissists and predators because one well, I don't know if this is true. But it certainly seems like narcissism is more common than the rest. It could just be getting its fifteen minutes of fame as a buzzword as well. So there's that and then predators are just seemingly the most dangerous people around. So I I definitely want to get into that as well. But I want to start from the beginning because I know one of the reasons you learned nonverbal communication body language and helped found the FBI's program. I was part of six agents that were selected from twelve thousand to what was then a classified program called the behavioral analysis program where we looked at the behaviour of spies, and and and terrorists. And and so yeah, I I was. At the founding. Okay. Do you know, my friend, Robin Drake by any chance? I know your buddy, Robin, Drake, Robin, Drake. I think he was two or three generations after me. And then he went on to head the program, and I had to say he did a standing job. And and as you know, he's a great author. Yeah, he's a great..
"robin drake" Discussed on The Nice Guys on Business Podcast
"The first the first day that we that we produced or that we released a we got to downloads the second day we got we got five okay so on the second day and then the third day just just a knock us back down we coq ten with so we had three people potentially listen boom and then they said what is this and then they left so that it was this you and me again i have a we were only publishing want to weaken very true very true so let me go back to the our first episodes our first episodes now as of today we we got our test episode we got to downloads that was oh you're right that was on to okay interesting so onto seven that was our test episode that was the day that we actually got those two downloads episode number one which was on two eight the day that we got five it just look at the look at the the spike in listenership who went from five until now that same episode number one has gotten four hundred in four downloads the same had also number one what do you mean episode number one overall yeah like they like people have actually gone back whoever is gone back and listen to episode number one not the class agree on version of it but the actual original at eu episode four hundred and four perry nice very nice country suck all right let's let's wrap up here we got some uh some other should they take care of and then we'll la and then we'll come back we'll see you guys on tuesday you've been listening to some really cool episodes if you listened the entire week at rob holman on monday we had robin drake yesterday the fbi guy oh my gosh so cool such a great interview evan hackel is coming up tomorrow you'll enjoy that episode as well that's it let's get out of here steve o'brien take us out of here for the nice guys on business i'm steve o'brien looks like they made it through another one i don't know how they do it without falling asleep in the middle.
"robin drake" Discussed on The Art of Charm
"It looks like boehner but it's benachour and to be clear i even checked with his dad because he's eight years old and he listens to the show with his dead law and he loved the robin drake episode he's had some takeaways that he told his dad on the walk and his dad senneset nice letter agencies for all ages people sorta anyway although i realise this episode it was a little bit looser with than usual so jason wilcox benard learns some new words today if he's listening to fan mail friday adding one low the boehner you're get used to it said gave you jacob larson from denmark we hung out in aid some amazing food in denmark and i told him about makes speeds have you heard of soured herring jason her kim it's it's called yes nizami the i had heard of that yeah okay so it's in a canon it smells like an out house it's fermented fish that is essentially just you leave rotten fish i lyon kennett severely rotten but the thing is you think oh when you eat run fishy get take no you get sick from things like maggots and stuff like that those aren't in there this is for meant it so it's extremely rotten but co like controlled rotten and when you open it it smells like an outhouse exploded you but it tastes to good use as well as ordered is like is it like durian fruit where it smells like a you know a rotting corpses but tastes pretty them he added but yeah exactly and the problem is if you open it flies from all over the entire continent of europe and canada and so you have to open it up in side in order to eat it but the problem is your house will stink for a week so you have to actually do it outside.
"robin drake" Discussed on Knowledge@Wharton
"We're talking with robin drake cameron styles who have uh authored this book the code of trust and american counterintelligence experts five rules to lead and succeed your comments are welcome in eat four four warton eight four four nine four two seven eight six six is the number to give us call or if you can't send us accommodation twitter we'll bring it up on the show at biz radio one eleven be iz radio one eleven were my twitter coutts which is at the unloading 21 to boost camera i'll start with you how much do you think wh when you look at all of these different ideas that that robin has brought forth how much do you think they are either impacted negatively or it's positively maybe to a degree but more negatively because the digital world that we live in it because the connection times between people eat companies were in uh in a pair of companies seemingly has not ceased to face as much as it was safe ten to fifteen years ago gas exactly right and we in fact spent a whole chapter on how to deal with people in in a digital world uh how how to write to correct kind of emails um how to talk on the phone which is different than talking in real life because you don't have the body language and there is a problem we we are disconnected and that's part of the reason we don't trust each other anymore you you can't look somebody in the eye often is not.
"robin drake" Discussed on The Kevin and Ryan Show
"That is hits less jump into our interview with robin drake author of the code of trust all right so i guess the the first place to start would be talking about just wide trust is so important and when you are able to create trust with others you know what what type of benefits do you see first why trust is important and his fiery number of years ago when i started down the path that will follow in our lives and careers i didn't even realise that's what it was you know we start out think in ohrid i have to have a career and sue star in your first job in your trying to do things that you're simonsen tasks of people are giving you and you're not really think about how to implement the beyond the the nuts and bolts of it anz so you kind of muddle through the world's you know you have some success in you have some failure along the way anz ads in the same thing with me what you know i'm a you know for my background you can read you know it's the naval academy graduate rinker offcer fbi ran a behavioral program you know the kind of the very typical you don't corporate america or in law enforcement or military the hardcharging taipei personality ends what what really became obvious of besides realizing night i was a natural born leader you ends was visibly screens things up because you don't want to go then they will cabinet figured already if you're you're ranking position gives you a thority and so you could just exercise your thirty in people do your will not really especially when especially when you work in world of world counterintelligence end in the fbi it's a very flat organization on the sense of rank and structure i'm in yeah we have it but it same times a lot of firstname basis types of things in the individual group work with on the outside new eob partner within whether it's and business or.
"robin drake" Discussed on The Kevin Rose Show
"Um i was actually meeting with one of my buddies or apple and he was saying that was one of their preferred partners if you're looking for podcasters check them out so let's talk about today's episode i'm really excited for sidel robin drake he's author of a book called the code of trust and robin was a senior agent at the fbi he did that for gosh i wanna say round at a look it up i think rump thirty or so years and most recently he was heading up their counterintelligence behavior analysis program so you've got imagine that this guy has just had so much experience with building trust with informants in all different types of people throughout his career on the fbi so you may think like why we covering trust i trust is really important so one of the things that i have to do in my job as a venture capitalist is build trust with entrepreneurs and i've seen this all across the board will there be working at google or finding people like you know ilan moscardi's of williams to beyond the show you have to build up and create a level of trust before you can work with some of these people and i think that um understanding what trust is how to build it is going to help you both professionally you know get that next promotion or if you're trying to convince somebody join your startup or convince of capitals to invest near start up obviously personally as well if you're dating someone are could ask when a mary you there has to be a level of trust.
"robin drake" Discussed on The Kevin and Ryan Show
"With them in terms of i'm not investor it's called the simple cast in the not paying me to say this but simple cast dot com i was actually meeting with one of my buddies or apple and he was saying there was one of their preferred partners if you're looking for podcasters check them out so let's talk about today's episode i'm really excited for robin sidel robin drake a he's author of a book called the code of trust and robin was a senior agent at the fbi he did that for gosh i wanna say round at a look it up i think rump thirty or so years m most recently he was heading up there counterintelligence behavior analysis program so you've got imagine that this guy has just had so much experience with um building trust with informants in all different types of people throughout his career on the fbi so you may think like why we covering trust i trust is really important so one of the things that i have to do in my job as a venture capitalist is build trust with entrepreneurs um and i've seen this all across the board will there be working at gu goal or finding people like you know ilan mosca ev williams to beyond the show you have to build up and create a level of trust before you can work with some of these people and i think that um understanding what trust is how to build it is going to help you both professionally uh you know get that next promotion or if you're trying to convince someone adjoin your start up or convince venture capitals to invest near started up.