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"roberts splaine" Discussed on Behind the Steel Curtain

Behind the Steel Curtain

08:09 min | 11 months ago

"roberts splaine" Discussed on Behind the Steel Curtain

"Heel fans. Welcome back to the second. Let's ride. We know what it is on monday or the day after the game when we talk about winners and losers and this week i had five winners and losers. Now let's be clear you're probably wondering you're probably asking yourself at this time. How in the world could you have five winners. I felt that there were players still played well enough to earn in deserve some credit and you might also be thinking eight losers i could have twenty two losers eleven on both sides of the football. I can't. I'm not doing that number one. I can't do that number two. I mean that would be a disa- longest article ever but also it would become monotonous. There were some players that could bounce either way like ben rothlisberger for the second straight week. I don't have money either list. It's a situation where i thought ben didn't play great. The interception was awful. I think we'll all admit that he'd admit that he did admit that after the game. But i also think about. He didn't play poor enough that i would put them on the loser list. So let's go through this. We'll we'll hammer these out. Five winners eight losers. Let's get started with winners top winter. I should have had this individual in the winters column last week after the win buffalo. But i didn't do it. I overlooked and i apologize. Not overlooking this though. Chris boswell deserves to be on the winners list. He was money from fifty six yards out the longest field goal in heinz field history. That's impressive. he's been money in the bank. Ever since two thousand eighteen it was just a debacle of the season. I said this on the post game show. I'll say it here as well. The steelers could have easily easily. Just said you know what in two thousand eighteen he was. That bad boswell. Was that bad that they said we're done with them. Just we'll get rid of in the nfl trees kickers like a dime a dozen anyways. But they stuck with them. Maybe it was for contractual reasons. Maybe it wasn't for whatever reason. Chris boswell has made the steelers say boy are. We glad we kept that guy. Around another solid outing by chris boswell. He deserves to be on the winners list. Next nashi harris stat line ten rushes thirty eight yards but he adds five forty three yards. Receiving any did have his first touchdown receiving touchdown. I've believe those about twenty three yards. So g harris najji harris again the stats don't really bear out that he should be on the winners list. But again this thirty eight yards boy. Did he have to earn him. He had to earn every single one of those thirty eight yards. And i love seeing the five receptions for forty three. The steelers should use more in the passing game. Everyone talked about his dual threat ability and things of that nature. The one thing though if you think back to everyone wants to compare them lady on bell and rightfully so i get very similar in stature style stuff like that but the steelers used more in passing. They actually trusted him to run routes to catch the football. I don't think najji is there from route running standpoint but he certainly capable if they can get him the bond space that's when he does his damage if that's passing soviet najji harris's a winner in this game next winter be wide. Receiver deontay johnson. Here is his stat line. He had nine catches on twelve targets for one hundred and five yards a forty one yard long. You know. I didn't mention this earlier in the first segment but when we talked about injuries deontay johnson should have been brought up in a on a meaningless play. I'm totally meaningless. The steelers are down by two scores. Twenty seconds left deonte johnson catches a pass injured his knee. No one knows the severity of that injury yet. But it's still an issue. He goes over one hundred yards of that catch but boy. Is that a costly injury. If he has to miss any time but deonte johnson played well the miscommunication with ben roethlisberger is still a question but in terms of production he produced deonte. Johnson deserves to be on the winners list. Next winter in. This is a guy that was on my losers listen. The preseason did not play in week one but played in a big way in week. Two robert spelane cymbeline last week. The shin injury leading up to the game and play this week with devon bush out spelane played a lot and he really looked like he was comfortable again. The reason why he looked comfortable is he didn't have to cover. Everyone says well. Roberts spelane can't cover. We know this anyone who watches football watches. The steelers is he's not his forte. his forte is running downhill tackling. That's what he does the best. And even though spelane. I thought got screwed on that roughing the passer call or unsportsmanlike con. Whatever they called it. When derek carr is scrambling and he doesn't slide spelane hits him in the shoulder with his shoulder. It looked it looked worse than it was. But my goodness they they flagged him for a bad foul stat. Line explained twelve tackles. Eight solo tackles and one tackle for loss. Either robert splaine did a good job. He deserves to be on the winners list for this game. Especially when probably up until friday. He thought he was just going to be a reserve player. He gets thrust into a bigger role and he plays well the last winter before we go over to the losers columnist melvin. Ingram his stat line. He had four tackles one solo. Tackle one sack in one. Tackle for loss nova ingram was called just like alex. Highsmith was he was called on moore. Duty based on tj wads injury and. You could definitely see the both of those players kind of kind of winded at times. They weren't used to it with tj water in there. They have a three-person rotation they are fresh they're all able to rotate around without t. J. watt melvin ingram. Now highsmith and jamir jones were called on to doing more and more in that became. They became an issue but nonetheless. Melvin ingram gives his first sack. As a member of the steelers i thought he was disruptive At the same time. I think we were all hoping a little bit more production from both ingram and highsmith art. Let's go to the losers list. This is a long one. I'm going to start off with trae. Turner now we've learned a lot. Since the end of the game about the situation that happened. After the steelers scored harris had his first touchdown receiving touchdown trey turner was objected in. This was for what he spit on an opponent. Mike tomlin was absolutely irate. After this and i didn't understand at the time. And i want to apologize. I'm what am i apologizing for. I don't really want to apologize. I wanna make sure everyone understands. It's people that follow me on twitter. they were kind of giving me a hard time. When i had not seen the video of trae turner spitting. I had not seen the reports. Either and i tweeted mike. Tomlin has every right to be mad because they were two penalties at the same time offsetting penalties. One player gets dejected. And the other doesn't i didn't know the trade turn spit on someone come to find out. At least. According to the steelers that trade term was he is spit on first and then he retaliated. Well you know what. I'm a father. I'm also a schoolteacher and you we always say the person that retaliates is the one that always gets caught. That doesn't make what they did right. That's just the way it works. A lot of times trade turner's veteran. Mike tomlin said that in his post game press conference very even keel. He's not a young guy not a hothead so when he was that irate mike tomlin knew something was up while at the same time. If you're a veteran you have to understand that even if someone spits on you and i understand that that is the lowest of the low. You can't retaliate. You can't put your team in that situation. A reminds me of the search of the time. I believe it was markey's pounds. He's rookie season to two thousand and ten and there was a play in markey's pounds. He was getting kind of getting into a scuffle. After the play and mike maitama employ them to the side. And he's yelling at him. You can't do that you can't do that..

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"roberts splaine" Discussed on Behind the Steel Curtain

Behind the Steel Curtain

05:36 min | 11 months ago

"roberts splaine" Discussed on Behind the Steel Curtain

"Podcast where we go over all of the injuries not just for the pittsburgh steelers but also for their upcoming opponent. In this case week to pittsburgh steelers are getting ready to host. The las vegas raiders at heinz field. The home opener for the for the black and gold. It should be an exciting time. Let's take a look at the thursday september sixteenth injury report. It is a situation where you have a lot of players that are returning to practice some that were given the day off and like i always said wednesday's report you can take it with a gigantic grain of salt. However thursday's report is where things start to get a little bit more serious you can see. The trajectory is specific players. Some players are trending towards starting. Some players are trending towards not playing in the pittsburgh. Steelers had a little bit of both on this thursday report. Let's go for wednesday's report so that you're aware of where they stood yesterday leading into thursday's Practice so on. Wednesday carlos davis with the knee was limited robber. Splaine with a shin was limited. Juju smith schuster in ben rothlisberger. Both were given the day off from the coaching staff. Not injured just given the day off. Now let's talk about thursday's report now. Carlos davis was downgraded with his knee from limited. Did not practice. Not a good sign for carlos davis getting a helmet on sunday. Which could open up the door for someone like isaiah loud or milk the rookie to get his first opportunity on the active roster we shall see also roberts splaine was limited was a full participant in practice on thursday. He is trending in the right direction. Meaning that he looks like he should actually be back. Juju smith schuster and ben rothlisberger bills returned to full participation in practice on thursday. There was another edition. A this is not a good injury and titan. Eric yvonne with a hamstring did not practice now before fans and fantasy football owners. Freak out about this and think. Oh my goodness with. The steelers are going to be out without hebron farm. He's gonna be able to handle all those duties on his own. Remember week one leading up to the buffalo bills game. Think back to alex smith. Alex highsmith was limited. He missed practice and then he returned on friday and he was a full participant in played in the game. They could just be airing on the side of caution with eric. Hebron and we'll see what friday's report has for him if he's if he is even limited he might be listed as questionable nonetheless. An injury to keep an eye on. Eric hebron's hamstring other than that and carlos. Davis's knee the steelers. Remain a very healthy team. Now when you look at the visiting. Las vegas raiders. My goodness the list. I read on wednesday was lengthy. We'll put it that way. It was lengthy. Now that was also an estimation because the raiders played on monday night against the baltimore ravens. They wanted overtime physical game long game and their traveling across country short week. They didn't practice wednesday sales an estimation. They did a walk through but thursday. They returned to practice and here is what we know. Now so denzel. Good the the guard. I spoke about him on wednesday. He was placed on injured reserve so was defensive. Tackle gerald mccoy with a knee injury both replaced on injured reserve which means that they will have to miss the next three games. And we'll be out of the lineup. Against the pittsburgh steelers obviously on sunday richie incognito with a calf did not participate josh jacobs with the angle. Keep an eye on that one. The running back did not participate again. Nick kwiatkoski i think. I got closer today than it is wednesday on that pronunciation with a concussion. Did not participate quarterback marcus mariota with a quad. Also did not participate Roderick teamer the safety with an ankle did not participate when you think about all these players. I just listed that did not participate. You're wondering it's thursday. Friday is the final day for. The injury designations to be reported. Not looking good for some of these players to be participating on sunday at heinz field. Let's go to who was limited carlin. Acid with a pectoral injury slash to- pass rusher had very good game on monday was limited. Also another pass rusher jahic in gakugei with a hamstring was limited fullback alec angled with a fibula. I'm not sure how you injure that but nonetheless he was limited denzel perryman with a hip. Linebacker denzel perryman was limited. And then you also have defensive. Tackle darius filon with a knee was limited and then the players that were full participants yet You know what divine diablo. The ankle brian edwards wide receiver with an elbow defensive end quelen feral With a defensive end that he was the back injury. He was a full participant. Jonathan hankins with a knee center. Andre james than elbow All those players were full participants. But that's still a really really long list when you compare it to the pittsburgh steelers. The raiders are banged up and even if player was full doesn't necessarily mean that they're one hundred percent healthy they were just a full participant in practice. Every single player is dealing with some type of bumps and bruises as mike tomlin would always say are associated with the game of football. So keep that in the back of your minds at the same time so there you have it folks That's the thursday injury report for the pittsburgh steelers. And they las vegas raiders as they prepare for their week. Two matchup at heinz field sunday. One o'clock make sure behind the curtain dot or one stop shop for all.

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"roberts splaine" Discussed on Behind the Steel Curtain

Behind the Steel Curtain

02:59 min | 11 months ago

"roberts splaine" Discussed on Behind the Steel Curtain

"Spleen injured his shin somehow in warm ups and was unable to play so roberts splaine was limited on wednesday with that shin injury and joining him as a limited participant was defensive. Tackle carlos davis with a knee. That was it pretty surprising not see well. I guess it's not surprising but deontay johnson was not on the list. He did leave the game at some point against the buffalo bills in week. One also chase klay pool after making a catch kind of got off. The field slowly went to the blue tent. Didn't hear anything from mike. Tomlin on tuesday about it also. He was a full participant on wednesday. So there you go. Pittsburgh steelers injury report pretty clean after week one. And then we get to the. Las vegas raiders. Oh my goodness of the raiders. Have a slew of injury issues right now. And it's worth mentioning that this injury report is an estimation. The raiders only did a walk through on wednesday. They just played monday night against the baltimore ravens. They won an overtime here. Is there list. Okay get ready. Buckle up guard denzel. Good did not participate with the knee richie. Incognito guard with a calf did not participate running back. Josh jacobs with an ankle did not participate. Nick kwiet tug we add. I came this guy's name. He has a concussion. He's a linebacker. He's not participate quarterback. Marcus mariota with a quad did not participate. Gerald mccoy with a knee did not participate. Carl massive with a pectoral and detail did not participate broderick. Teamer with an ankle did not participate fullback. Alec ingles with fibula was limited ni- goodness. He hurt his fibula defensive. End yanic than gok way with a hamstring was limited denzel perryman linebacker. The hip was limited. Divine diablo with an ankle was full wide receiver. Brian edwards with an elbow was a full participant clown farell. The back was full. Johnathan hankins with a knee was full. Andre james than elba's full and safety dallin leave it was with a hip was full. I'm sure i butchered some of those names i apart. I don't even apologize. I'm not a raiders fan under these players nonetheless. That's injury report again. Wednesday take with a grain of salt for the steelers. They did practice for the raiders. They did not. So for the raiders. You look at this giant list. And you're thinking. Wow that's incredible. It's a long list thursday's the day to keep an eye on for the raiders. As some of these players has already been reported that some players like gerald mccoy. Janiking gutten agok way. And even maybe marcus mariota are not going to play. As well as i think den denzel good was potentially having an injury that could make him land on injured reserve. We'll see we'll see. Thursday is the day so make sure staying tuned to behind the steel curtain dot com. For all your pittsburgh steelers needs and make sure wherever you get your podcasts. Check us out. Search steelers or behind. The steel curtain subscribe followed. Would ever you have to do.

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"roberts splaine" Discussed on Behind the Steel Curtain

Behind the Steel Curtain

07:03 min | 1 year ago

"roberts splaine" Discussed on Behind the Steel Curtain

"Pittsburgh steelers fans welcome back to the second part of the steelers. Post game podcast. I'm jeff hartmann senior editor behind the steel curtain. Dot com joining me as always scofield editor. Bt se and. brian. Anthony davis or podcast producer. We are continuing to go through our of ratings. Were grading giving out grades. Zoe's always in the post game. Before we do this. I wanna talk about the inactive list. Roberson go ahead and explain. It does what happened the list. I think this matters now. Okay well and not only that. I had several players that i thought i picked all the correct positions for the inactive list. I just wasn't sure which players it would be those positions and i actually had an article ready to go. I had names in there. So i could delete other names like i'm gonna pick up the most notable name and put it is the headline so i get the inactive list. I put the headline on their buddy johnson and active for this leads inactive for steelers week. One only to find out nine minutes later when the steelers publish it. It's not buddy johnson. It's robert splaine now. They always give it to labrador report and he reports it apparently from the time they told him. Hey this is what it's going to be sent out at eleven thirty to the time. They actually had to turn it in is when they had to make the call with roberts poulain having a shin injury in pre-game warmups so therefore spelane ended up out and buddy johnson ended up in. So that's why it was a roberts blaine some people it's like. Oh this is going to. What's being to the depth chart now. It was an injury thing so they went with it. Don't know where that would put split on special teams. I thought of it right off the bat Kickoff return if that would have been different but who knows but that's how that went down all right. It's good to note because we're going to talk about the defense. Let's start off looking at josh allens numbers. We're going to base our grades off of that. Josh islanders thirtieth fifty one thirst for two hundred and seventy yards of five point. Three average one touchdown. No interceptions was sacked three times. He's a tough guy to bring down. That's really important. Seventy nine point seven rating. Let's talk about the steelers pass rush. I the steelers finished the game with eight quarterback hits okay. That's that's incredible and then three sacks tj wad with two cameron heyward with a third. The was almost a half a sack. Two and a half. I wasn't sure if they're going to give tj half on that one. But hayward was definitely there. I but tj helped from not getting away. Sorry if josh allen is. Let's say tom brady type. Quarterback is going to sit in the pocket or what had eight tax they have lit up the scoreboard data. Stacks Like the rolling rate the pass rush. Grade the pass rush. I should say bryan. we'll start with. You will go in the same order. I thought the pass rush was absolutely phenomenal. I have one guy that i want to. Mention is melvin ingram. The third i think he changes what they can do on that team by having a third starter in there so you mix and match and pull those guys in and out move them around. He's playing on both sides In relief he's playing early and often. He's getting to the quarterback. I thought they were great. I did not expect. I was afraid that that sack record was going to fall this week and it looked for a while that all right it very well could but then they got it going in also not just the sax how many more would had if the bills weren't holding everybody highsmith would have had a sack there. There was ingram. Would've had a sack. There were so many sack opportunities. Okay so did you. What was a great again. A all right. Dave grade to pass rush yeah. That sounds good. A sounds great. I mean how great is it to where. Tj watt comes off the field and you're not overly concerned about it because you've got two other players that are that are also getting the job done. I'm not saying they're both. Tj watt. but what i'm saying is it's not. it's not oh my goodness what a fall off that all three of them fantastic job constantly bringing the pressure they were they were held. I put a picture on twitter. The touchdown that bill scored the offense of teaching what made around the office of live at. He reached back and grabbed. His shoulder was the only reason. Josh allen was not sacked on that and threw that touchdown pass and how that doesn't get called. I don't know that one was to me. The most egregious out of any of the missed calls. But that's just what they were what they were doing But i mean my dad asked me is is the bills line that bad or steelers pass rush that good to me. The steelers patrushev at good i agree. They were the elite. They was an elite performance. By the pass rush. Let me ask you this because you are. Brian socially bryant is david you. You've mind for this dumb. Michael back was asking on twitter. Is this the best dealers trio of pass rushers that we've ever seen at least in the modern era. Think about the pass rushers so we have ingram highsmith. What is there been any trio. That's better either of brian. Dave whoever wants to dl. Go you know what i'm going to say. No this isn't the best. 'cause that blitzburgh team had a lot of great pass rushers you had. You could throw gilded and chad brown in the mix along with the fact that you had green and lloyd just just edge persistent so ask edges that so much that you put them all you want to get them all three on the field at the same time the no. I don't think there's another if you're just talking straight and rushers. Yes edge the no. I can't recall anybody. Yes it was the third harrison woodley. Was there a third there for them. Was it a hagen was was it world's world's was there in two thousand ten You had hagen's in there for a little bit because like but even even then that's not even comparable. Yeah i know this is really that good and being that good and the other two being that good you know. This is just one game yeah. Tj watts on pace for thirty four sacks here. and i'm you know what with them half they would've would've yeah. It'd be forty two tom. You're against us three dollars. One for each total sack. Thank you tom. We appreciate it indeed. Are i give them an a. What else can be said. But let's go to the secondary. The steelers did surrender a lot through the air. Three two hundred seventy yards but boy. That's what the second one attempts though. Yeah you're right you're right you're right you're right When you look at the numbers. I mean pass breakups or pass defenses. Make ahead one g the cam hayward with two ingram with one seven total.

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"roberts splaine" Discussed on Behind the Steel Curtain

Behind the Steel Curtain

05:40 min | 1 year ago

"roberts splaine" Discussed on Behind the Steel Curtain

"Deputy editor behind the curtain dot com and we were doing a little bit of a primer for cut down day of course tuesday the days now as soon as this podcast drops we will be taken down the minutes. Heck the seconds to that cut deadline as those move start trickling in and we know they will and they will be coming in hot. And i don't really anticipate any big crazy cuts by the pittsburgh steelers especially the team in the direction. They're trending in. It just doesn't look like a team. That's going to be making any kind of bold decision right now but we should talk about the defense of course first half of the show. We broke down often. The side of the football defensively kicking things off at the corner position and we'll work our way in from there at corner. I think we already know what the steelers star is going to look like but then it comes to those depth spots and whether or not they make a move for another corner. Which if you ask me if you ask jeffrey benedict if you ask. Jeff hartmann dave pskov. Basically if you ask anyone from behind the steel curtain dot com staff it feels like an evid ability that the steelers land some sort of corner whether or not. It's a player from an outside team or trade to upgrade the spot especially at that nickel position. An o'brien callaghan's name. That's been talked about a lot and one that the steelers have called to check in on. I don't know if it's passed anything other than initial contact but that's something. We need to see one of those spots. Honesty is going to come from a player more than likely outside the organization that the time of recording. The show is currently a pittsburgh steeler outside of that you of go look at those kind of depths spots. Could amar gilbert climb his win in the team. Of course you know occur. Brown got cut in the steelers have no plans on signing him to the practice squad which is kind of mind boggling to think of the undrafted free agent with the largest signing bonus in steelers history getting cut just a few weeks later with no interest for the team for even a one redshirt kind of developmental year the steelers sitting and kind of moved along that one was a bit of a shocker but that corner spot again. It's one wash. It almost seems like justin lanes going to fluke his way into another nfl year. Sorry if you're listening. Justin but he struggled mightily throughout all his playing time in the regular season. The last couple of years after being third round pick for the pittsburgh steelers But they just don't have the bodies. Justin leans going to find his way on this team once again. Moving out to safety. This one is kind of one of those up in the air things once again. Because the steelers don't really have any safeties past their starters you know making fitzpatrick trill admins and traynor. Would i suppose it's kind of that number. One free safety back up now with almost no competition behind him which is pretty insane for the pittsburgh steelers to roll a seventh round pick as a primary backup into the season. But that's just the way we're rolling into this year so hopefully norwood is ready to go but right now. I don't anticipate anything anything crazy. Come down from that role. Strong safety however i guess miles kellogg abreu is your backup strong safety guy. That played linebacker. The last couple of seasons. In that kind of marcus allen type role of course. He's reunited with coach. Darrell austin who drafted him to detroit and meet him. A strong safety before awesome left and killebrew was bumped down to that inside linebacker position. So safety i wouldn't expect anything crazy outside of them perhaps trying to bring in another body. I don't. I don't foresee them making any bold moves at the safety position though and are just more likely to try to rotate one of the corners. Up to safety in the event of an injury bringing things down to inside linebacker and things start to get a little bit of spicy because that inside outside linebacker spot. We know the steelers like to carry nine of them total. Whether or not it's five guys in the inside or five guys in the outside varies by year and it just varies by talent level. And who. Danny danny smith thinks is going to be a better contributor on special teams those kind of depth linebacker roles typically false guys that have a little bit more special teams prowess. So that's something to keep in mind when the cuts come down and you get mad that your favorites outside or inside linebacker depth player that is got the axe. That's probably because they're not a very good special teams contributor. And that's their number. One job being the ninth linebacker on this team so some names to watch out for us cut candidates i think of course ulysses gilbert the third his time i feel like he's one of those guys just come to an end he was terrible. All preseason lawn. He lost naps he. He's he remembered that week one game that he was healthy. Mike tomlin refuse to give them a helmet despite having almost no depth that inside linebacker at all it was just one of those things where ulysses gilbert the third continues to hang on but everything is just training in the wrong direction for him lashing on this team any longer. So that's someone. I kind of anticipate getting the chop. Of course marcus. Allen is another name that you should watch out for who i think he might have played himself onto the roster but battling some injury. You don't know for certain. We know joe schubert and devin bush. You're going to be the starter so not to worry. They're the most likely backups. Roberts splaine and buddy johnson will be backing them up then it becomes whether or not there's a fifth linebacker or fifth guy on the outside. Of course the outside linebacker spot you've got. Tj watt melvyn. Melvin ingram goodness gracious. Already forgotten his name. And then you have. Alex highsmith as your three starters. Your forced guy comes down to a competition of three players..

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"roberts splaine" Discussed on Behind the Steel Curtain

Behind the Steel Curtain

07:08 min | 1 year ago

"roberts splaine" Discussed on Behind the Steel Curtain

"The pittsburgh steelers played their third preseason games the twenty twenty one season their first at heinz field. And the first one to see almost all of the starters play today we will look at what the steelers showed us and their matchup against the lions both the good and the bad. I'm your host jeffrey benedict. Welcome to the cutting room floor. An last week show talked a lot about the inside linebackers then at heinz field this week we got to see devon bush and new steeler joe schober play together for the first time as a pairing. They showed promise but also showed that they need more time than bush still needs time to get back fully from his injury and get up to. Nfl speed joe. Schober needs time to get accustomed to his defense to the steelers defense and his new teammates. Bush looked a little rusty. Like you would expect. He had a few plays where he approached a gap in the run game wrong. At least one time. He overran a play shumpert for his part. Look slow on his reactions and his assignment something you expect when a player is thinking about their role on a given play what their assignment is instead of. Just being able reaction la- relax employees. These are things that are going to work themselves out. These two guys need time. Need time in the steelers defense and they need time together. They're going to be all right. Now in bush and schober off the field they were replaced by roberts poulain and marcus allen those who played the rest of the game that was the steelers played. Four linebackers devin bush. Joe show bert roberts lane and marcus allen buddy. Johnson didn't play on defense at all. He only played on special teams where he does has looked good and he made a tackle in that game. Roberts spelane looks like he's locked down the job of the number three linebacker after you know. We thought he was going to be the number two guy. He's moved back to number three with the addition of schober. And i like him a lot better in that number three linebacker role. Marcus allen looked good. He has looked a lot better than he looked last season in this. Preseason he's really good in coverage on running backs and tight ends and even when he's thrown on a a you know a depth wide receiver. He's looked good He also has improved at hud. Blitzing where the steelers you know if you're on the running back especially if you're on the running back and the running backstays into block the is covering them turns into a blitzer and adds into the pass rush. Marcus allen is looking good there we saw him with a couple of pressures and with half a sack in this game. I think marcus. Allen is leading the battle to be the number for linebacker over buddy johnson over any of the camp bodies over anybody else. I think it's right now. It's devon bush. And joe schober is your starters. You've got roberts splaine as your number three linebacker and i think marcus allen is really solidified his hold on the number four linebacker spot and that pushes buddy johnson to number five on the linebacker list. Now the steelers generally keep four to five inside linebackers and forty-five outside linebackers for usually right around nine linebackers. Total is what they keep and that fifth the fifth at each position either position. Normally you've got you've got four outside linebackers four inside linebackers and then usually you get one more either outside or inside linebacker. Who's mostly gonna play special teams now with buddy johnson being fourth round. Pick and frankly he's looked good. He's looked talented. He shows a lot of promise he's just also showed he may not be ready for. Nfl snaps right now. But he's not. He's not ready to be a player. You rely on marcus. Allen roberts plane. They're ready. they're ready to be that player. So while buddy. Johnson really isn't one of the top four inside linebackers. He's a fourth round. Pick who shown promise. He's playing on special teams. He's playing while he had a special teams tackle against the detroit. Lions i think buddy johnson makes squad as the number five linebacker with a bit of a redshirt season. because i mean he's a fourth round. Pick any looks good and he looks like what you want to be like next year. He could be an upgrade on both splaine and marcus allen the way he looks right now he just needs experience he needs that seasoned to learn to grow. By the end of the season he could be moved up into a higher tier. The right now. He's not there by his promise. Says you can't really let him go. Which means for me. Seals are keeping five inside linebackers. They almost have to you. Can't you can't send your number four linebacker off the team. you're not. you're not cutting marcus allen. You're not cutting robert spelane. You're gonna keep them. You're going to have to keep buddy johnson too. What stands out to me. In that is we're now looking at if we're keeping five inside linebackers. We're only likely to keep four outside linebackers and three of those are set. Tj what's gonna comeback at some point. They're going to pay him. He's going to be he's going to be back playing for the steelers. Not just practicing by himself. Alexander smith has looked. Phenomenal and melvin. Ingram is a lock. He's our number three guy and he looked really good against the lions which is also allow the steelers to ease. tj white back in if he sits out most of the preseason you know if he misses if he misses the whole season they can still eat him in to game action. Because they have melvin ingram behind those three why highsmith in ingram the steelers have two young edge rushers who are competing and playing well in jamir jones and quincy roce. Now the buddy johnson marcus allen situation. Where really buddy. Johnson's almost locked to make this team as the number five inside linebacker in his all night opinion guys. This is what i'm seeing film. And this is what. I'm picking out from the roster not i don't have insider information here. I'm not claiming what the steelers are going to do. This is just how i when i look at it. This is what i see is. You can't let marcus allen. Go you're not let roberts bolongo buddy johnson. You've got to keep it right you. The ceo's almost half to keep five inside linebackers the.

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"roberts splaine" Discussed on Behind the Steel Curtain

Behind the Steel Curtain

06:04 min | 1 year ago

"roberts splaine" Discussed on Behind the Steel Curtain

"He's better at that are so for me what we're looking at. What steelers debt. As they got an upgrade on roberts blame when it comes to play down and being run stopper they got an upgrade roberts filleting in terms of calling plays and knowing the defense and adjusting to what the at you and they got a guy who can cover and maybe blitz. There's gonna be some interesting things were that we're going to have to see play out like for example. Joe schober was on a terrible defense. Was he targeted less. Because the guys around him were worse than so he was just not the easiest guy to pick on right or roberts. Blame was often hey who he had a target. You're gonna target that backup guy who's never played. Who has you know before last season had exactly one snap on defense and his career so yet he got targeted more are are you gonna see where maybe joe schubert in this defense puts up better stats you know per target. Maybe he gives up fewer completions and so his yards per target. Go down in this year. Maybe we see joe. Schubert is actually a really good blitzer and his his rush percentage in his pressure rates. Go up or maybe we see. That's not a strength of his. And roberts blaine is just a better blitzer. That joe schober. Who knows there are some leeway here that we're gonna have to find out we're going to feel out how schober fit specifically in this defense. Statistically wise like what his productions going to be as he changes roles from from. You know the jacksonville defense to this defense. But really if you watch film. He's very similar to robert splaine. So what you saw the good of robert spilling last year with a little better run stuffing That's what i expect from. Joe schubert this year which is great. That's an upgrade. That's a that's a great addition especially for the for the cost. They got him for so two round out the show into our last little segment here on go through the last rest of the position. We spent a lot of time. Joe show burton inside linebackers. How he fits in devon bush gonna be your number one linebacker if he's healthy. You know there's a chance to steelers really are trying to limit his snaps early in the season because he's not one hundred percent yet i would understand the case or if they just say hey you know what we're we're going to give you a little break. You played a ton last season or give fewer snaps. But he's your number one linebacker eastern over one linebacker show. Joe shelbert is good and coverage but there's people out there saying he's better than david bush coverage in that's just simply not true. Film does not back that up numbers. No back that up. It's just it's not true Joe showers can be number two and he's playing a lot. He's gonna play a lot. He is a veteran of the group. He's going to be that you know the the voice in the helmet. He's gonna be the guy with the green dot he's going to be calling the defense colin adjustments which is good. We need someone who's really good at that. We haven't had someone who's really phenomenal. At that sense james farrior. He might be the best at it. Sense james farrior left and that would be a significant addition to our defense in no other way. is joe schubert. The equivalent of james farrior. That wanted to be clear to say that in case people here that wrong thing. I'm saying joe schober is that good. He's not a but he's going to be the best. Probably you know that that calling captaining the defense. The james farrior dick from a linebacker position. He's probably be the best sense. James farrer left that we have doing that specific job behind him. Roberts he's he's like joe schober and i would not be surprised if they wanna give joe schober to a break. You know it would be probably like in nickel. Where roberts billion really fits in. Well roberts plays a great fit in the nickel defense At at inside linebacker. I would not be surprised to see him there where he can add his blitzing to the pile. Then you have some interesting players behind there. You've got ulysses gilbert the third. You've got marcus allen. And you've got buddy johnson buddy johnson the rookie draft. He looks good. He is more of a thumper he's going to be that guy who can who can mix it up in line take on blockers stuff to run. He's not bad in coverage either at least at the level he's playing now which is kind of the second to third string Players for the other team is what he's been facing and he's shown pretty. Well they're ulysses gilbert. The third loved what he showed as a rookie Loved it his first preseason. He looked dynamic. He got injured. He's a series of injuries. And he has he hasn't really developed and in fact this season you know. I'm still looking for him to get back to looking like that player. He looked like when the steelers had just drafted more. He looked so impressive. I don't know maybe his injuries means he's never going to get back to that ply being that player right now. He's in a battle with marcus allen. Just make this roster bush over explain are gonna make it a buddy. Johnson is is going to be very hard to knock out simply because he is a rookie and he is looking. Really good. Just not quite. Nfl for snaps on defense radhi. He looks like a guy that next year could really take a huge second year. Leap marcus allen. Played really good in very limited snaps against philadelphia. He is not anyone you want to take on a blocker. He is just get swallowed up by blocks but in space and particularly Like a dime back role where he is taking on where he's in coverage on linebackers and coverage in zone. He's really good. He showed some fantastic aggressive defense on running backs against philadelphia When he was in there against a pretty good rookie gain well for For for philadelphia. Who's a good receiver. he did a fantastic job manned up on him really fantastic work. He knows the defense. He's he's got the the i q side down..

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"roberts splaine" Discussed on Behind the Steel Curtain

Behind the Steel Curtain

06:59 min | 1 year ago

"roberts splaine" Discussed on Behind the Steel Curtain

"Same were the players involved and their personalities and how they on the team and all that stuff are involved a you can just sit there and look at their fit They would have been better off switching. Vince williams and joe schubert because joe chauve is a better fit in my opinion to be next to devin bush whereas what they wanted was more of a vince williams next two miles jack. So that gives you an idea. Why joe schubert is a great pickup for the dealers but also not the biggest loss for the jaguars because he didn't fit what they needed. So who is joe. Show over whether let's let's take a look at it real quick right Job has played a lot. He's been to a pro bowl and he's good across the board. There's not a lot of weaknesses when you look at his physical profile right when you look at his size his speed agility if you go back to the combine and look at those numbers. He's remarkably similar to roberts fillet. He's the same height they're roughly the same speed agility He's he was bigger. Then spelane coming out. When roberts plane came out of college he basically really needed hit an nfl weight room. And he'd right. So the difference. Between shelbert and roberts d'alene physically and their athleticism is very small schober. It's a bit heavier on his frame. Still i believe now than than Robert spelane is and that helps him in the run defense when you look at his film and you look at his stats. He reminds me of robert splaine. Just a little stouter against the run partly because he's a little bigger right if you look at their coverage stacks even if you look at their coverage stats from last season okay. Schober played a lot more then. Spelane did He was on the field for five hundred coverage snaps. Okay all this just just a disclaimer. All of these all these stats come from sports info info solutions Through their data hub tool. It's a free tool on the web. You can look that up but Joe show was on the field for five hundred coverage snaps where he wasn't rushing right where he was in coverage he was talking to forty. Two times gave twenty eight completions. Two hundred ninety three yards Came away with three interceptions. And one defended pass roberts blame played significantly less. He was on the field for one hundred. Fifty eight coverage snaps was targeted. Twenty three times gave up ten completions. For one hundred seventy yards had one interception three defended passes. Okay what does that mean. Well we can start with Robbers lane was targeted. Fourteen point six percent of his time on the field. Joe schubert eight point four percent us lane only gave up four point six five yards per target whereas joe shelbert gave up six point. Nine seven They both gave up right around ten yards per completion Splaine just had a much. Lower completion percentage against the shelbert dead. If you combine all of that you look at the non of yards. They gave up per cover. Snap roberts plane is point. Six seven yards cover. Snap joe schober is point. Five nine a little difference not ally there And spelane got two more passes went his way. He had one interception in roughly one third the snaps that joe schober got three but explain defended three other passes whereas joe schubert got to three hundred options and only defended so he both defended four passes. Which means blaine had a much. Higher percentage of targets that went his way that he enter the he. He broke up that he actually defected. Another part of splaine game that is considered one of his best attributes is his blitzing right. He does the. Ceo's call hug blitzing where he's on a linebacker that light or he's where he's a linebacker covering running back in man that running backstays in the block. He transitions into a blitzer. It's also the steelers deal with play action if you watch a play. Action pass and roberts is made up on the running back the minute. It looks like a play act like it looks like iran. He is charging that running back. He's going right for him and when he sees at the play action pass. He's still going for that running back. He's still going and they have to break off into coverage if the runningback changes routes Or if the running back turns to like help block someone else you blitz the quarterback if they turn him block you. Then you're match. You know you try. Beat him in and get in there. But that is how the steelers negate extra blockers when you keep an extra blockers to help block. T. j. watt cameron heyward steph onto it by debris alex smith when when you keep an extra guys to block those guys roberts blamed roberts d'alene rushed on fifteen point one percent of pass coverage of a pass plays. He was in on and he had an impressive. I mean ridiculously impressive. Forty two point nine percent treasury. That's incredible when he did a hug. Litz when he was that guy adding onto the blitz. he got pressure schober last year. rushed around eight percent of past about the past place and had a really good twenty three point three percent pressure rate. That's good splaine's better. So in coverage shelbert is a more proven a more reliable guy. The roberts spelane but if you look at joe schober and you look at roberts fling when he before his injury when he was playing his best. Football of two thousand twenty. You're talking about a very similar player. You're getting a very similar player again. Joe show bert is proven. He's done this year in year out and you may have heard The seals are talking about him wearing the green dot calling the defense. He's that guy that you want calling the defense before like. Oh does that mean devon bush. No it just means. This guy is better at devon bush than that specific skill. call the defense colin adjustment. Seen what the offense is doing. He's better than devon bush at that specific skill and really if he's better than he should do it right. Whoever's the best at it should do it if he's better than bush at that then yeah don't why would you have bush do it. Just because you're like oh bush was are. He's our number one linebacker. Well he's still our number one linebacker. Just joe chauffeur's gonna call the defense.

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"roberts splaine" Discussed on Behind the Steel Curtain

Behind the Steel Curtain

05:28 min | 1 year ago

"roberts splaine" Discussed on Behind the Steel Curtain

"One of those guys. That just looks older than what he is but he's athletic. He's a sideline to sideline player. He's very good in coverage he is someone that the steelers honestly they needed. We've all bemoaned. The fact of watching inside linebackers get put on tight ends running backs in the slaughter out wide getting burned. That is one of his strength. And so that's really good to know. In case you don't remember in november of twenty nineteen the game where myles garrett ripped mason rudolph helmet off his head and use it as a weapon against him it was not myles garrett. That was the best defender on the field. It was joe show bert. He had an interception. He was all over the football field. That was only two years ago. So if you're thinking well now is a long time ago schober. That was only two years ago if you need to go back and watch the highlights of that game. I don't recommend it but if you do you will see joe schubert. In what he can bring to defense said the next thing. Joe showboat is a sure tackler. He is not a player that is gonna dive at people's ankles. He is not someone that is going to shying away from contact. He is a tackler. He is a guy that will stick his nose into the mix and make the dirty plays. Sometimes when you get these linebackers that are more built for coverage they're more they excel in the coverage schemes. Sometimes you get them and you're thinking oh boy these guys are. They don't like that type of that type of game that's not show where he's a good tackler he and he's also very versatile. That's the next known that we wanna talk about. He is a versatile player. He can play either position on the inside. Linebacker depth chart he can play in coverage. He can play man he can play zone. He can play in sub packages. This isn't vince williams people. Sometimes when vince williams was out there they would have to say to him. Hey we gotta make sure. We don't get caught with vince williams on the field. That is something that was actually said vince. Williams had severe limitations when it came to coverage. That's nothing against vince williams. That's just who he was. Joe schubert is not that table player. His versatility can have him be on the field every single snap in. That's one of the reasons that on day. One on sunday when he was a practice for the very first time he was running with the starters. Now mike tomlin said after practice. This was mainly the you wanna test him. You want to see what she has so you throw them out there. I wasn't expecting him to be thrown out too with the starters. But that's exactly what the steelers did showboat after practice talked about how the steelers are planning on giving him the green dot the green dot. Meaning that is the helmet that has speakers in the ears so that the defensive coordinator or whoever calls in the defensive calls. They relay the calls to that player to players on the defense. Get the dot. But they can't be on the field at the same time so schober guy. They're expecting him to be on the field most of the time really interesting stuff. He's very versatile next. You talk about that high football. Iq when you're around the nfl for that long for six years and that's a long time. That's a long time you've been around played a lot of all year round that much football ye tend to pick up a lot of those little tricks of the trade. Maybe it's not just about terminology. Maybe it's not about xs does maybe it's about. I know how certain players play. I know what tibbs certain players do you just learn and and you can think about this any occupation anything. Think about the job that you have right now. I don't care if you're a busboy. At a restaurant. If you're at schoolteacher if you've been working in the business realm or work at a bank i don't care what you do think about the very first time you went into that job and then think about six years later you have learned things to make your job easier if you haven't. I'm wondering what you're doing at work. Because i can tell you that for me whether it's running. This website will use that as an example the first year iran iran behind the steel curtain dot com. It was a cluster. I kind of knew what to do. But i wasn't one hundred percent sure. I was always second guessing myself with headlines and the approach. And i never knew what was the right approach in now you just take go six years running it more than six years six years later my goodness i knew exactly what to do. Everything was streamlined. I had built a really great honest to goodness a great team and it became so much easier. That's the key has become so much easier and so for a guy like joe's schober who played for six years. Think about devin bush. He's going into your three. Schober has been around enough to know what to do to make his life easier. And hopefully he can convey that to players. Like devin. Bush and roberts splaine and things like that. So those are the knowns. He's a veteran. he's athletic. He's a tackler. He's versatile and boy talk about high football. Iq those are the knowns. But what about the unknowns. What about those things. we're not sure of. That's we're going to talk about right after this break. Stay tuned support for this. Episode comes from adidas. We all know when you go.

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"roberts splaine" Discussed on Behind the Steel Curtain

Behind the Steel Curtain

06:13 min | 1 year ago

"roberts splaine" Discussed on Behind the Steel Curtain

"I'm a kind of invested in him. But it was nice to see him at the start in an play the arguably the most difficult or at least most important position on the line protecting the quarterback's blindside as a left tackle so it was a new. A new line and in didn't play Obviously brandon play. Even fryer meath was out so you know and yeah he had. He had a clay pool in. They're incapable I think he's going to be a stud. But still you're limited as far as as far as your starters and that's just a mason rudolph the other to the other guys haskins dogs. They had as far as i can remember all reserves. Were in there by the time they got in. So you're judging these guys based on that and the fact that you have to factor that in. I should say when you're judging these guys and you have to factor in in the fact that that there's no real game plan in preseason. You know they're not you know when you're talking about a game plan for for an offensive coordinator for example. It's not just about calling specific plays. It's about calling place based on what you think. A work against Whether with a defensive doing as far as formation they're weak spots they're weaklings and you're building went playoff of another. You're you're You're trying to find a rhythm trying to find cohesion and you really don't get a whole lot of that when it comes to to preseason football. It's it's mainly about what the coaches want to see as far as individual players. Not so much. What what they want to see as far as what could work to be an opposing defense. So it's hard to really judge a backup quarterbacks in preseason game but you have to and i don't know if any of these guys are going to really stand out over these next three games but It's gonna be interesting to see if what if one does and if he does stand out whether it's rude off or or or haskins or even dobbs if that factors into the coach's decision as far as who's going to be the backup in twenty twenty one who's going to get cut and we all soon rudolph's going to make the team. But is he gonna make the team and beat a third stringer. Is he gonna make the team. Back up Ores haskins gonna take his job in the back The number two based on performance and pedigree 'cause we got the factor then he's the first round pick you know that that means a lot especially early the player's career Coached might say they don't they. Don't evaluate these guys. They don't weigh in their draft status. But come on. They you know they do. I mean first round picks get get more. Chances didn't undrafted free agents for a reason to sum that up. I think the. I don't think any of the quarterbacks were great or horrible. They were in between so as far as the defense To echo the sentiments of many the inside linebackers looked pretty bad with the exception of buddy johnson the rookie fourth round pick from texas. Am especially in pass coverage. I'm talking about the ones who didn't show out. Roberts spelane yuji three marcus allen but you have to remember you know. There's a reason why the defense looked Suspect after ryan says your got hurt. There's a reason why they were so aggressive. Two years ago in trading up in drafting devin bush in the top in with the tenth. Pick of the twenty nine thousand nine hundred draft s. because at inside linebacker of that caliber make such a big difference for for a defense especially in the middle of the field. They do so much of the heavy lifting. And you know when you're talking about decent Sort of underdog players the lunch pail type players which is like what robert splaine represents that blue collar guy mexican reading. Bill cowers book right now as a throughout the week. I've been reading. It's really really good book by the way. And he was. That kind of plays a roberts filleting kinda kinda player undrafted free agent and he had to basically you know absorbed to play ball can rely on his on his instincts said try to you. Know make up for his lack of overall natural talent so but he could be bill cower. It's never going to be the best linebacker on seem. You might might have been the most versatile he could play all the positions. But he's never going to be the best one. So when you when you're talking about a team defense you know if you're if you're in there and robert splaine in alan those guys they were in there without you know. Mika fitzpatrick opposite. Tj what arguably the best defensive player in the nfl right. Now cam hayward. I don't think to play play today. So you know you're without all those players that would pick up a lot of a lot of special demonstration. The middle of the field would pick up a lot of slack and do a of heavy lifting. And if you're one of those kind of blue collar lunch pill defenders you can just excel at what you do best. We saw for many years. With with vince williams. He was so much better when he was alongside or shazia or even ten minutes because those guys are such so athletic they allowed a thumper like williams and do his thing which was playing run in and the last few years getting after the quarterback. So you know. It's hard to evaluate spain or or you even you d three. Although i think yes back guy has to show eventually because people keep talking about how great of an athlete he is but he really hasn't laughed at this point he's been hit heard a lot..

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"roberts splaine" Discussed on Behind the Steel Curtain

Behind the Steel Curtain

03:49 min | 1 year ago

"roberts splaine" Discussed on Behind the Steel Curtain

"He's communicated with us. He's respected us. I'm going to give him the respect. And so roberts lane would have been one of those players. That benefited from the retirement. Vince williams. he's learned a lot. He's spoken highly events williams but he is now and the first step chart was released. I don't put too much stock into that. But it's it's out there roberts. Pauline is now starting next to devon bush. And i think everyone thinks about roberts lane and the first thing they think of is that hit on derrick henry and how can you not my goodness. You could probably count on one hand. The number of defenders that have met derrick henry in the hole in the national football league and caused him to go backwards. You could probably count it on one. Hand robert spelane is on that hand. He is one of those players. And so that's what i think. When i think of roberts plane i think about that guy. He meet him in the whole that thud. We all heard last season in tennessee and it was a memorable play. What else is there to say. But he's he is turning into someone. Mike tomlin has spoken highly of him his preparation. And when you think about his body of work even last season he is turning into someone that is more than just a run stopper. He is turning into someone. That is more than just a one trick pony so to speak to steal. Mike tomlin's verbiage. When he used to describe mike wallace robert splaine's interception the other day at can't that said oh my gosh. How can anyone forget the fact that robert splaine air septa. Lamar jackson picks exit. Mt bank stadium baltimore. Last season is kind of put. The icing on the cake for the steelers in in terms of the defense and their performance was such a good game for them. Roberts blame we've learned about him the steelers plan on utilizing him a lot and i think he's ready. I think he's ready for that role into that's going to be exciting to watch the last defender. And then we'll take a break. Melvin ingram melvin ingram. In the reason. I put melvin. Ingram on here is not that we need to learn. Much about melvin. Ingram nova ingram has tape out there. Folks you just have to go look at it. You can go to youtube. And search melvin ingram highlights and you'll find plenty. But one thing about melvin. Ingram is people want to know. How are they gonna utilize him. How's he gonna fit. Is he going to stay healthy. Is he healthy. While we found out the from the melvin ingram himself as he spoke to me that he's over the knee injury that he suffered last season. He feels like he's not just one hundred percent but two hundred percents. I'm not sure how that works. But still that's that's his words online and we also know that the steelers are planning on utilizing him in more than just the pass rushing role. He can play the outside. He can play the right the left which is tremendous but they've also had him in. This is something that tj watts done in the past and they also used to ask williams to do this and that's to move to the interior almost look like an inside linebacker. But he's going to be used to free up. Blockers free pass rushers. He is going to be very versatile. Tool kenny. stay healthy well no knows. We can't answer that question right now but as of right. Now melvin ingram. He's turning into a weapon for the pittsburgh steelers twenty twenty one and it's only been four days just two. They put the pads on all right when we come back after this break. We're going to talk about four offense players so we've learned a little bit about and we're going to dive deep into the preseason. I know it's a preseason but trust me it's worth talking support for this episode comes from forward. Most people go to.

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"roberts splaine" Discussed on Behind the Steel Curtain

Behind the Steel Curtain

03:53 min | 1 year ago

"roberts splaine" Discussed on Behind the Steel Curtain

"There is an opening at that outside linebacker on the outside linebacker. Outside cornerback position. Can he take that job. And say cam sutton you were signed. But they knew they they're going to use you on the inside. Can he do it. I have to think that some of these players were drafted. Last season are just chomping at the bit to get an opportunity to show extended repetitions. Carla's davis anthony mcfarland. These guys didn't have a preseason last year and so that is going to be big. These games are going to be big. And we're gonna talk about the second half of the show this preseason willoughby a good test. We'll talk about that but let's get into these individuals so i said earlier. I don't think we've learned anything really about the team. But i do think we have learned even in this small sample size a lot about certain individuals and i broke this down four on defense. Four on offense. And i'm gonna just go one by one talk about the player why i feel like we've learned something about it and we're going to hash this out together so to start on defense. Wanna start on defense one of the individuals that i feel like we've learned about is antoine brooks junior someone. I brought up six round. Pick out of maryland. Twenty twenty nfl. Draft and. I have to be honest here. I didn't have really high expectations for anton brooks ginger coming in at twenty twenty one. This is a player that did not make the team out of training camp. Last year he was cut didn't get picked up. They sign him to the practice squad. He ends up getting elevated any sticks with fifty three man roster for the rest of the season but now all of a sudden they have him being the heir apparent their words. The media's words not mine the heir-apparent to mike hilton. He had a tremendous interception earlier in camp of ben rothlisberger. Keep that in mind. It wasn't mason. Rudolph or dwayne haskins joshua dobbs. It was ben in now all of a sudden he did get banged up a little bit on sundays workout. They said it's not serious. He's considered day to day. He should be fine but still antoine brooks junior. My goodness we've learned something about this guy but not just what we've learned about him we've learned about how the steelers are planning on utilizing him. Maybe i never thought as a safety when they drafted him. I was told that he was a box safety. Love to play the line of scrimmage. You did well. I didn't think that he was athletic. Enough to play the slide. We'll see we shall see arthur millette going to get a shot especially if brooks is out for a little bit. So we'll see. But anton brooks we have learned a lot about him as an individual cam sudden. Maybe cam sudden but how the steelers are going to utilize. We know cam. Sudden kim son's a veteran at this point to sign a new contract is second contract in the nfl. With the pittsburgh steelers in terra lawson spoke with media on sunday and he said that the plan right now is for the steelers to keep cam sudden on the outside. That's the plan. He's that kind of change. If there's someone like james pierre or just lane step up then they'll move cam back into the inside. He can play the nickel he can play. Time will see but as of right now that the steelers plan and we've all wondered this throughout the offseason. How are they gonna utilize cam sutton right now. He's opposite joe hayden as the as the number two cornerback or the other cornerback. Maybe don't maybe number one to here's another player on the defensive side of the ball. Roberts splaine now if i were to have written an article. When i didn't do this i thought about it. I thought it was in poor taste. And that's why didn't do it. If i would have written an article that said these and then number say four players. That benefited from the retirement of vince. Williams could have written that article. It would have probably done great and we'd probably a a lot of pages. But i said you know what now vince williams has been good with our site..

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"roberts splaine" Discussed on Behind the Steel Curtain

Behind the Steel Curtain

06:45 min | 1 year ago

"roberts splaine" Discussed on Behind the Steel Curtain

"He's not going to be the captain. Here's one i'm gonna ask you this question. 'cause i someone that i thought about. I'm not going to do it. But it's my answer to this question for you jordan. Dangerfield's gun yes. Who do you think and they talking about. This would be really important that it is. Who do you think is going to be the up man on the punt team that is the guy causes formation calls in guys sets them if they have to come into block rather than be outlined. And everything else. If there's gonna be fake he's gonna call it or things like that. Who do you think is gonna fill that role who is mainly one of your most important special teamers other than your specialists for the steelers this year. You know what. I was trying to think about the idea to make this list and i wasn't sure if i had anybody picked out for that i do. I do and it's someone that i thought about. I'm like you just. I just don't see someone being a captain their first year in pittsburgh. I think it's good to be mouse gilbert who they signed on the lines. That's what i think is going to be there. I think he's he was basically. In my opinion he was brought in in the jordan dangerfield role. He's special teams ace but they could probably use them more on defense. That's just what i think. I think that's a guy that that could be there and do that. A cre- thinks is going to be derek. What that he could be the guy as as the up man. So if that's the case then i could very well see what being being the the especially in captain. I dismissed him right away. Because i thought we had one year in pittsburgh and he missed a lot of time there and you know which is a shame because part of the reason i said. Hey i'm okay with steelers signing him because his best abilities is availability because he had never missed a game in his career and then he comes to pittsburgh in four game last year so all. Yeah i guess that's an honestly that was probably why he was brought in in place of roosevelt mix because of thinking he was going to be more available so if he's not available this year this will be his last year in pittsburgh or he honestly because he'll be going into his last the last year of his deal so but i'm hoping he can really be a good special teams guy anything else you wanna say about the subject he rich. You know what there was. Another person out. There are actually considered becoming forty forty percent of the snaps. And kind of and you. And i we love this guy forty percent snaps. I'm looking okay. i'm ready okay. Go ahead. what mine in favorites. Okay and that would be henry monday henry. I know these theme. I mean he brings a lot on special teams so he goes. But there's i mean there are so line see another guy that played a lot of snaps. If someone like marcus allen yes you know so that was. That one's tough. I mean james played a lot of of special teams snaps last year. But he playing more corner whether in some package or not. He might not have many snaps. I don't know Here's someone that i thought about. But i didn't say it because he didn't have very many special teams snaps last year but he might end up with more this year. Do you think. Because of the return of one devon bush in the emergence of one roberts splaine that one vince williams vinicio. I think it's it's williams. Then ev- ichi key might be playing more special team snaps. Because i think if that's the plan he could be your special teams captain. I just don't know that that's going to be. I don't know if that's going to be the plan or not. And that's i thought about him. And i was going to have him high because i'm like he would be a great special teams captain if they're going to relegate him to playing special teams and. I don't know that they're going to do that. So yeah and then. There's right here like chris and live chat and i would be okay with this. He says i want jordan dangerfield back just as give. I'm confession. i finally deleted it a few weeks ago. I wrote two articles before the start of the league year in march two have already written so we had to do is throw it a little bit of data slap in a tweet hit publish will be get up there. Quick of players that the steelers were were going to sign for the twenty twenty one season. One of those articles published zach. Banner the other one. I had to delete because it was jordan. Dangerfield thought for sure he was one of those guys that they were going to bring back. Veteran minimum. Wouldn't even really be counting. You know where they get the the the break towards the salary cap of this psalm. One year deal where even though he's making nine hundred ninety thousand dollars. He's only counting eight hundred fifty. That's that veteran salary. Benefit is what that's called but then they signed miles killer bruin that kind of right there just told we talked about it on staff even with with. Bts's were like. I think the killebrew kind of nixed. The whole jordan dangerfield return so interesting so that's just one of those things. A lot of people were giving some some comments is the first ever lived. That the live chat that much but he breached. You want to take a few minutes questions or do you want see some oil. Well mention inter wilbur. Put up their ass about antoine brooks. You know yeah. And how much he he. He only played two percent of the special teams snaps last year. He didn't play very many games remember. he didn't even team. He was on the practice squad. Crackhead he did make some appearances. We'll see what he has to do this year right now. is there. yeah. I would expect those numbers for him to pick up. I don't know if they're going to pick up to forty plus percent or not. We'll see we'll see we're going to think about five minutes of questions here. I just put it out there in the in the live chat. If someone has a question would if you wanna make sure you can use the super chat feature just drop whatever amount in there and put your question. Don't feel like you need to do it. we're not here. Soliciting.

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"roberts splaine" Discussed on Behind the Steel Curtain

Behind the Steel Curtain

09:52 min | 1 year ago

"roberts splaine" Discussed on Behind the Steel Curtain

"Pittsburgh steelers fans. Welcome back to. This week's episode is still warren. I'm not beverly hosted shower as as always light. Say the shari that really thinks about what the seals during with their roster with carver. Pretty cool showing that we've got a bit of a mink. If it's patrick. Odd to show. I can use Freelance if you laco go rogue a little bit look at all different things whether it's stats financials. Players draw peaks. whatever. I kind frame roaming ability habit it's rotten middle of the way so it's a bit like a middle inside linebacker middle linebacker. Yeah it's been an interesting that we've got fiduciary both it. I wanted to let playing the pause and it was often talk about his pass rush. And what have you been on so about like the the advanced defense You know in our pool of stats from pro. football reference. Say like often run into about pasta. French about like completion percentage. Maybe the odds they allowed. How many tate as they allowed. And we're going to help some of these off. Maybe you might talk about the quarterback rating. You probably took deceptions. That's gonna be pretty k. On that's kind of it's kind of baddie really but there are lots of other things you can talk about which is a patient yards per completion. Two yards pawtucket. It can be on the cure. Also writing which i mentioned this before it can be the average debt of talk which will address in another shore on in a future. Show title a god's on replacing yak. You can cover all those different things as well even tackles in the passing game. What have you so let's recap on twenty twenty so in twenty twenty not pittsburgh steelers law was able to get more than five interceptions minka had full. I killed three nelson haydn. An terrell edmonds will had to age sutton had one and robert splaine had one-sided hotseat said ticket what inside cam heyward income With cool cool. Because can i was actually the festivities korea in new york giants game. So let's let so cracking a little bit now. What i wanted to sort of cover off with. This is basically to give you an understanding of like some surprises that there are attempts to these pittsburgh. Steelers chain you know and how they play actually played poss- because there when you go through the stats becomes pretty a power people that stood out and the people that will bite from a positive perspective on the people that really stand out from negative so when we look at the pittsburgh steelers tens of targets. The talk pirate the top. The play is targeted with steven nelson with ninety eight targets. Joe haden seventy-nine. Cameron sought with fifty seeks. Mike helton and before with forty five. Terrell edmonds was targeted forty. Five times as well as april fourth williams. Daddy five times row. Explain thirty minke twenty six now minke. You can just tell like they talk. Method or quarter of the time expected to purely because people annoy me his prowess as well in what he can actually do it the position and we sold out in twenty nine teen. When you know a lot of the award of the teams the pittsburgh steelers will playing actively avoid causing he's direction insensitive completions steven nelson allowed the most completions With fifty seven at of ninety eight this difference so really views on the forty one percent. Little forty one. Those targets that he wasn't able to that he was able to sort of really stop stop completion and he walked down. I read an article that harry could be one of the best lockdown coins in twenty twenty. Really joe haden Here's targeted nine times. He allowed forty completions. Camera sutton was targeted. Fifty six hail out thirty four completions. Mike he'll at forty five targets. He allowed twenty nine tyrrell edmonds with forty five taught. Forty-five paul started setting. He'll out twenty five vince. Williams allowed twenty two point from thirty five world. Spallina allowed sixteen from thirty nine care. Thirteen from twenty six devin bush. Fourteen from twenty two but devin wishes hod because we he didn't really play five games ever williamson allowed sixteen from twenty one. Just laying allowed ten from twelve targets. Marcus allen allowed eight from ten and then in terms of going from there outside. Smith allowed five from nine titans. Tj what allowed three Seats it's really belie- five targets. Don't cover off. In the numbers dipped below ten. Is that their linebackers. That are included here outside linebackers at that right as well. Sorry that's kind of pretty interesting from a for my percentage number guard and this is where it's quite interesting and again. I'm gonna look at five targets. Five targets on served from those five targets. Justin lying had the hospice any with Allowing ten complaints from twelve eighty. Three percent. Marcus allen you know allowed at eighty percent. They're often completions in week. steelers touchdown on whether it's on the cost side alive when we go in each nose fan amok salomon during the Every williamson allowed seventy six point two percent now. Hey traditionally was morning that grunstein Inside linebacker all loss. Cookies the jets before he came to the steelers had putting into that post coverage. I think he struggled to address to steal his defense. I still wouldn't be surprised. Cecil's bringing back if the money allows it but i think clearly that you cannot sound might not be bringing back mike hilton. Inhale out the most At sixty four percent devin bush had sixty three percent since williams. That sixty two percent. Cameron sautin sixty percent steven nelson fifty eight business but the guys that do really well with terrell terrell edmonds Five point six percent. And that's the sorta number two e could sorta same with forty five targets that really and that was like getting close to double minka the amounts this number the inger Let's invest in him even if we didn't become his fifth year option alc- seismic. We know he had that interception hill at fifty five point six percent as wall just on march routes one fifth of the margin of terrell edmonds across targets incompletions. Rollet explain. he'll add fifty three point three percent. Now that's pretty terrific. From his perspective given came in to replace bush using credibly good coverage and probably was targeted a little bit joe haden allowed him the fifty point six percent which is incredible given he was the second mayes targets at seventy nine At seventy nine there and then Fifty percent inserted tater. What they're so that. That's pretty terrific. And you think about 'tatoes while people are within had some william deception career You know they'll be wanted people milwaukee for the target around ties. Even he's limited coverage experiencing college and was he osam hoping his dad talk about that would scarborough's as well and the Made i conceive during the same thing with considerate shea. The akron sierra shays are he wasn't asked to do a lot of poss- coverage in college i think he played one. Snap varies in coverage. That doesn't mean econ to it. It just means that he's got a practice. It you know in terms of the pittsburgh steelers training training camp Have you in the steel is. That still is how to coach these inside and outside linebackers up to the thing that i thought mentioning we can look at the yards but the odds starting to tell the best story like obviously steven nelson seven hundred. Thirty two yards through the pops. You sorta got williams niane targets make sense jeremiah. Come second with five hundred fifty nine that that makes sense because he had the second. Mars targets government sautin. He had the talking and he leading the third mice amount yachts at someone. I can go He was full of winger that Elements they were tied and they both leading the full face. Mice shot so does quad. Correlation between completion percentage and yards how it's yards put completion. The gets pretty interesting and again. I'm not gonna ferguson. Guys like our lawler who was targeted twice and those forty-three Ferguson guys but had that flyable targets given memory in the outside linebackers is weren't printing interesting. Fitz patrick minka had the most yards per completion. Out of all the plays that Had ten or had more targets thrown their way thousand at seventeen point two yards per completion. Next it up by two religions alzoman the safe one of those positions with fourteen in half. Then joe haden fourteen. We know dried and likes to jump in make place. I mean joe haydn's with in sections he generally gets in what he can do impossible elections in. What have you. That's that's where it's pretty seen through his perspective..

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"roberts splaine" Discussed on Behind the Steel Curtain

Behind the Steel Curtain

06:04 min | 1 year ago

"roberts splaine" Discussed on Behind the Steel Curtain

"That your nickel corner if you're counting that as a starter and i don't know that's definitely. I think the steelers did a really good job of bringing in so many possibilities. I mean just even listening to coach. Tomlin speak this week. It's not even that you're quote unquote. Nickel corner has to be a corner. They're even talking about safeties. Look at all these names. That could possibly play. That position camp sutton could slide in and you put someone else in the outside. It could even be james peer in the slot. See jeffrey doesn't like the camp sutton coming in. he doesn't think he's physical enough to play nickel. Then you have guys like antoine brooks junior. You could even have someone like a mouse. Killebrew's sat slash linebacker. You can actually have your nickel corner or your nickel. Backer be robert splaine. Then you have the young undrafted guys in in secure brown even safety lamont wade. The guy from duke. I mean you've basically have so many players that you're throwing in to have one or two of a possibility that's all you need is one or two of them to actually pan out. And that's why. I'm not as worried about it because they've they've done so many things and if you and you're comparing it to pre joe haden steelers cornerbacks. You want to go before. Joe haden and had to deal with then this way. This is not a gamble gamble compared to compared to the last two years. Come from okay. Yeah i just want to know if it's a safe bet. Because i don't think any become more indifferent to it i wouldn't you know i didn't know that everything that everything had to either be one or the other because i wouldn't put the quarterback like jeff did is individual players. I would say as as that but as the position as a whole. I don't know that. I'd put it in one or the other category. Okay let's just. Dave shipley gives us five dollars. Put that up there. Thank you debuted It he says since. We're talking about the defensive backfield. He said if you're gambling at poker hoosier wildcard in the defensive backfield I'll i'll go first. And i think it is james pierre. I think they're banking really hard on him. At least being able to fill one of the roles that were vacated this past off season whether it's on the outside whether it's in the slot doesn't matter they are hoping and no one's heard from a My buddy my buddy. Lost in los jane He's been a non fat and he's not giving any talk. No one's talking about him In may be an shaker brown. May i don't know. I'm not sure i think james spears the guy there the wildcard. They're putting all their chips on him. That's who i you. Brian i think terrell adamant is a major wildcard because he's on the precipice of his career in pittsburgh because what is going to happen right now. I mean it's sink or swim right now. He does not have this. He does not have to be a lame duck this year but this is definitely the year where he states his case to stay in black and gold or he goes to arizona. See i hear wildcard. I think of that as like your ace in the hole because you want to be holding a wild card to me. I'm just interpreting that different. Because you're saying wildcard is you could use them any. I'm like you know what i'm saying. So really comes out of what you mean by wildcard. You mean you're you're talking question mark or you talk in. That's your guy because to me. If i answer this before you got said anything like my wildcards make a fitzpatrick. Because that's the guy. What more than anything. I want wild cards. You know what i'm saying but it's all in how you play cards. I think we're defining it differently. Yes we i hardly talking about. I just didn't read it that way. So i guess seattle has two losses out all right. Dave go ahead your turn for the gambles. I guess kind of went into shor bets at the same time. Brian's which is fine. I'm just going to bring up. Discussion being the gamble do brian and do a position group or do i do jeff. Where do a player before we get into doing a brian ice nerves off of james. Oh okay and i swerved a little bit but no. I had a list of players as well. Okay that just make it sure. Because i could bring up a position group so hard left. Turn at james pierra account that. I'm going to go with my biggest gamble and remember. It's a gamble because remember gable sometimes can really come come through for you but as gamble that i'm going to court for me. That's the biggest gamble. If that's going to be your left tackle. It's a gamble that might flow. You could fall flat on your face now. I also had szucs one of my use. My number two guy of who. I would like to see for could take the biggest jump next year. He's having this opportunity in a contract year. Change into a position which is supposed to be more of his natural position. You know and jeffrey benedict did the research on this. I'm not gonna take credit for it. They're like well. When's the last time we played left tackle in college. Yeah it was at. I'm gonna which was central rancher. Get the to a in western knows western michigans where where he was but yeah. He played left tackle but he was just there. Yeah but he also went up against bosa and dj what. I don't remember which boasts it was my years. go crazy. i don't. I can't keep those guys straight. They're they're not steelers. So i don't care and didn't give up a sack. The only one who had a sack. Let's teach a sack in the game. But it wasn't what he was going against. The core forty went on an inside blitz. So you can say that. He's coming into where he should be at that time but after jukes i mean you've got a fourth round draft pick. You got a guy that really didn't wanna put on the field as the starter in tampa. You really. don't have much about behind him. That's that's to me the biggest gamble going into this year..

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"roberts splaine" Discussed on Behind the Steel Curtain

Behind the Steel Curtain

02:38 min | 1 year ago

"roberts splaine" Discussed on Behind the Steel Curtain

"Defender against the run only going to be better for it Once again thankfully for him though he is going to be on a defense at really just allows their edge rusher. V successful I it's the strike this team. Is it offensive line. How they're able to suck up blocks. The have devon bush back to do his thing and coverage Once again vince williams reclaiming his spot at middle linebacker with robert. Splaine behind those two. So the steelers front seventy is in really good shape and really are going to allow a guy like outside smith to be as successful as he possibly could be in the position. He's in he's set up very well but he's going to have to perform If he could have a ten sack season that would be absolutely incredible in my books. I think that'd be kind of a top of the line projection. Four guy like alex highsmith. I'm not necessarily banking on it. Believe me That's kind of the ceiling. I foresee for this youngster. I could see him right around like to seven and a half eight sack total but really his season is gonna come down to what he can do up against the run if he doesn't get pushed around and really kind of established himself as a force. We know it took bud dupree about four. Four years to really get everything to click and he had a first round pedigree Outside of course what a third round pick so it might take him marginally longer. But i think he will have a better year to than bud to did Way back i guess that would have been twenty sixteen when bud dupree was having his second season so looking at this at the two stars. I think we clearly see. Tj what is poised to be one of the best players in the in the entire nfl. Altai smith sure. There's some question marks behind him but he could have an outstanding little season for himself just based on being in such a perfect system for any edge rusher to be in He's gonna he's gonna get a ton of one on one match ups from. He may never face a double team the entire season considering. What's around him. Alex highsmith is Is due for a big year. If he doesn't have one that could be a bit of a concern and the steelers might start to look outside the organization next off season Just based on how.

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"roberts splaine" Discussed on SI Media Podcast

SI Media Podcast

04:43 min | 1 year ago

"roberts splaine" Discussed on SI Media Podcast

"Game you know you're gonna get cast. I think it's important. Well i i appreciate being included with them. They're all girlfriends. They're all people. I've i've always admired and I am honored to be mentioned in the in the same breath with them. I i really do think that you have hit on something. That's that's a very valid point that this is as good a time as we've seen For for television broadcasts and generally the quality of the broadcast from a producing directing standpoint to and. i think what your point was earlier about the number of eyeballs. Look everybody everybody brings their best friend. Nfl game You leave no stone unturned. Everything in front of you from game past two red zone channel during the direct. Tv red zone channel during sunday's if you're not in front of that game you're not getting that game The amount of information social media There's no excuse. And you can get exposed. I think quicker in this day and age doesn't leave the place for a broadcaster to not come in spring. Lee prepared now. Part of my concern always deceased earning compared to the nfl like nfl game. I know i've seen most of what's gone on during the air. But i may forget the play that roberts splaine the steelers came up with his pick six. I remember we had it. I remember it was tennessee. But i don't remember the exact circumstance per se was it. I drive secondary but a steeler fan knows that. Because they're living on every snap now with notre dame. When i watch other people do not name. I know that. I'm an advantage. Because i've seen every snap. The irish have played the last five years when they don't win when they play a road game. Usually we'll get them the next week or two weeks later. That's a that's a huge huge huge advantage. Because the the fan at all your giants fan. Or i don't have a team. I root for i root for whoever i sort of have a wager on basically. That's i. I like to watch your games and then i get attached to certain players. Your your neighbors. Who are jets. Fans long island you. They're they're living every snap right so they know. And if you are doing jets game and the jets will get passed off to a half dozen different broadcast teams during the year because of where they are..

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