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LADS#157 - Villa is Back, Valverde Out, and Fan Questions

Loud Americans Discussing Soccer

34:44 min | 1 year ago

LADS#157 - Villa is Back, Valverde Out, and Fan Questions

"Ooh. No, no. No thing. Today is Wednesday may twenty ninth twenty nineteen. In Aston Villa is back in the Prum. Oh man. The Clarence Tom Hanks, stoked, he tweeted about it saying that he'll be bleeding the Clarence colors which everyone gave a big who arrived about, it's cool. I love win like big name celebrity support teams, such as villa, I think shack is like supporter of like Sofer city or something some league three team in England, like that's really cool. So now that as Bill has a rich historic history in the not in the Premier Li per se, but in English football history. So nice to have them back, man. I know there's a lot of people who are going to be haters of me saying, oh, you didn't want Darby with the wrong with the ABI, like, like I really like Martin's more, a bigger Darby guy than me, one of my best friends, Paul who I married, I've mentioned before in the show is a massive Aston Villa fan, and I was there last year when they lost out on the play offs, and he was in his full, like retro villa gear. And he was just like so sad. It was the day of the Champions League final. And I didn't even watch the game because I was getting prepped because that's when we did our live show, four lads at tavern on broad. So I was very happy for Paul. He's an awesome dude, and shutout. You know, Dean Smith when he took over villa, they were what was it? I think got this acid front of me fifteenth in the championship went on unreal. Run fifteen other it was like fifteen points behind. They were fifteenth in the championship. That's unbelievable. Jack religious, obviously, they're mean star wearing of you didn't see in the championship. Match was wearing his like lucky boots were Lert, which was literally torn the shit. So I saw a bunch of memes about that saying, like next time like your son is or daughter is saying, I need new kicks need the best kick because the only way, it'd be a good soccer player just exhibit, a Jack relig-. Unbelievable. Unbelievable season. For villa welcome back guys book. Yeah. And if I didn't mention before I have the shortest memory of all time, memento I think I said that Martin is not going to be here. He's exhausted. He's working to double. In the garage, or some shit, working on his dukes of hazzard Oakley cars, pistons rods nuts, and bolts, he no cars. So it's just me where does it gonna be real personal to guys just mean you hey, I'm glad to be here. So let's open up with this. The to the biggest rivalry of all time Josie Marino. Arsene wenger. Okay. Now all time are going to be commentating the Champions League for beyond sports. Guys. Do you know what this means, like this is Larry lightning in a bottle shoutout to the guys at bien sports forgetting to guys who actually were exceptionally successful managers and know their stuff, who literally hated each other's guts for years to put their like, you know, squabbles, aside, and work together, the like, I'm not going to be able to see this come to. I will literally go down the darkest rabbit hole of read it darker than those Garfield fucking Catholic dark, comics, read it to be able to watch Josey Marino, and Arsene Wenger, just go at it. I'm not even sure. Because I've read that their whole beef is like squash now. So I'm kind of concerned like oh, I won't like like slight jabs at each other kind of, like, you know, when Paul Scoles e would like, you know, do like sly jabs, even Gerard about not winning the league Marino. Do. Couple of those, like, yeah, what was your record against me? I don't know. I want that. I want that Seoul bad. I don't wanna listen. To, you know, Bleacher report football, Steve Nash, even though they do great job. They do a great job. I'm not saying it's my ex maybe because my expectations were so low for the Bleacher report squad that, you know, the fact that they're even you know, some, some type of competent great. They're doing a great job, but they're not going to even come close to Arsene Wenger, Joseph, renew. Are you kidding me? And I don't want to listen to BT sports. I'm like, I don't wanna hear all these fucking ex United next players just bitch about, you know, how these players have bad attitudes. Like fuck off, like Ozzy. I'm not talking about their playing careers but you know, would want us. Great manager, the only one, I can think of is Frank Lampard, but, you know, he almost led his team to a who's not commenting anymore because, you know, he's doing he's winning doing a bang up job with Darby and oh, I forgot to mention John, Terry coaching with ASA villa back in the high drives. Yeah. I was really stoked on that are sowing Josie hanging out in the booth. That's awesome. Also, there was a charity match, if you have not seen this picture, it is Arsene Wenger, just leaving, Don four dead in the midfield. This is a real photo. We posted on our social media, last podcasts, Instagram, Twitter, Facebook, go, follow right now. It's unbelievable. It's an all time or I may frame this. I'm not sure just daily motivation, guys never give up because one day you could just, you know, do a deadly turn onto the Anza. Dan? It's in, like Arsene Wenger is so skinny may because he's wearing those puffy coats for so long. This dude is literally skinny bones like a nice. Breeze would take this man's knees out, my God. This is a bad look for is done. Hm. Maybe you know that list of best managers of all time came out and are some winger sold as Don was way, higher than them when a little revenge. I could see that. I'm kinda just hopping around guys. I'm just on social media right now just trying to figure out like some, you know, big things going on in world soccer. Oh, I mean, the Europa league finals tomorrow. Holy shit. I guess there's talk about that. I mean those kinda shit show which going on coup in that country. I can't pronounce Osibisa John as that's actually probably the closest ever come to saying that. So I guess I should do my preview for that. It's gonna be interesting. I'm not sure about the health of a lot of the players. I know I believe Nagoya Kante has come out, or he hasn't come out, but essentially, the medical staff of come out said, he's fifty fifty I think could be massive because our midfield is pretty depleted. Right now at arsenal. So Nagoya Kante doesn't play that'll be huge vantage to arsenal because I feel like he would just tear up our midfield at this point. But I don't know the way a bomb Yang luck is that have been firing on all cylinders? They've been clicking so well. But then again Chelsea at the end of the season. I mean that's why they got a top four spot. You know. So I think it's going to be I think it's going to be a really close match. I really didn't give this match as much as I want to just getting all hyped up for the Champions League final, which has an arsenal fan is probably, you know, bad, look, my part bay, I'm just being honest. I haven't really taken. I've been more fed up with the whole like Mickey Taurean politics, the whole thing, and UEFA not giving a fuck to actually take the time. This is what you, did you Eva Mamie. Not even think about the sport. His point is the make us all about the sport. And now all I can think about is politics. This is ridiculous. Today. Some cop was chasing some guy down. We're in Mickey Tori. Jersey in Baku like I got him a Boston man, John. Look over your Johnny, Johnny. I got him. I got me Qatari and walk in the streets of Baku God. Uefa fucker you doing? But if I were to give scoreline is even biased. But I think arsenal this Emory's competition bright undefeated in this competition. I don't know that actually, but he want a bunch of severe balmy block is that playing phenomenally together. It also depends what's Mets Ozil going to do. I think that's the real like, you know unknown in this game. So that'll be kind of concerning also could be, you know. Chelsea also livid dies on how he didn't has our plays because he will in. It's just a fat sausage man is running around. Pick pick pick. Okay. I'm gonna pick pick a winner right here. Arsenal to one it's gonna be close. Has are definitely gonna deliver goal. I think a bombing lock is ads hookup is just been to deadly. I like they're gonna overpower the back line even though like Louise Ruediger have been pretty nice as quite a obviously, Chelsea backline is kinda underrated. I feel like they don't get enough talk. Even though it was not their best season. I think they did. Okay. Indebted Louise for some reason, who I thought was done in his career revitalized by you know, Antonio Conte and other. You know, saris figured out some way to use them. I don't know. I think it's gonna be a very interesting final if you had a gun to my head, I would say arsenal, but I think it's really a flip of the coin. This could go either way. But I think the experienced by unite Emory in these big game situations is going to come through. So people say a bias, I don't care. I live in dial. Nece. Okay. What else is going on? I guess we are the Champions League final, but will probably save that for Thursday's episode or Friday mornings. I mean. Oh, this was big news. Okay. We'll talk about this switch, switch. Switching gears a little alita. I'm gonna talk about your claps comments in a second to about pep Guardiola show throwing a little shade. But Roberto Martinez is currently the favourite to replace or nest though, vow Verde as the Barscelona head manager. Wow. Wow. Guys, I a question. What is Val? Verdes legacy is a good. I mean, the guy one of domestic double the year before, and then one loudly, again, this year back the back LA Liga titles. Is that a success? I don't know like if feels in the big games when they have the leads. I mean, the COPA del Rey, total fuck up against Valencia. Oh my God. The scenes shot the that was a I think it was fun. Yeah. Phenomenal fans. Rich history. That was really cool. But again, messy can't do everything man, like I think, is a shoe in for the bounty or this year. But this over reliance on messy on every team guys, like I get at once in a lifetime generational player. I think he does serve some of the blame for some of the shortcomings. But I mean you just can't just put all the way on his back. I mean but back Valverde. I mean I don't think you can sitter his tenure success. I mean, I think of Barcelona. I think it's just assumed you win LA Liga at this point every year it's about the Champions League and to. Go against a Liverpool into have a lead like that. And I know Liverpool this liberal side is going to go down as one of the best sides, probably ever. I mean I don't know. That's a hot take. This is very good. Eight I would say in a Liverpool squad, but I have a lead like that into give up four goals and not score. At least one with Lino messy feeling messy, earliest guaranteed one. Go, you couldn't do that with that demand of talent at that squad. I'm going to say it. I think Valverde's tenure is I wouldn't say a complete failure. That's harsh. I just think the guy was very unprepared for this position and understand what kind of expectations he was going to have. So let's switch over to Roberto Martinez. Really this is we're going with we're going you're going from Valle Verde to revert though, Martinez. Okay. So he's currently managing the Belgium national team, he used to get his asp handed in at Everton by the big six also by Liverpool losing four nil. What is are is? Are you going higher? I just staying the same. Like I feel like what you're trying to get a new manager or a new player in your always trying to go up. I don't see that as, as an up, upper projector the word is this just seems kind of the same, especially he's going from national to club. That's like if you look at the track record of, you know, national team coaches going back to club. It's not good. Not great. I don't know. I'm not the biggest fan of this. I think Barcelona may be making a mistake say, Roberto Martinez is going to win. You is he's going to when you of games, just based on the fact that you have Lino messy. They're going to spend a lot of money on like Antoine Greenman, most likely. That's the big one they're saying they're going to get a lot of players in so he's going to win a lot of games. But in those big games against Liverpool's against the man cities against you. Vent is the bar. Munich's even PS, g even though they're the ones who always, you know, seem to bottle it. I'm just saying. I don't think this is the right guy. Am I crazy? No. I'm saying. I don't think he is the right manager in these tight situations when when the players start getting tight and the pressure is on. I don't think you wanna look at your sideline. See Roberto Martinez standing in the managers box. So. Vertu Martinez giving all worked up today. Well, this is going on. I'm just looking at memes right now. Oh. Hop over to ESPN FC. They posted the quote, I don't think it's like directly from them, but they are posting urine clock. Apparently like hot, you know, taking shade as, as they would say, this is the quote from Liverpool manager, your Klopp. He says pep has to say that winning the Premier League is more important than the champion seed as he hasn't been to the Champions League final for awhile. Ooh. Yikes. I mean, I know Klopp is just joking here. And I love your Klopp. The guy has, you know, some all-time quotes at the, you know, at the press box. But I think you know. I think you're cops in a tough position to be making jokes like that, as someone who has an exactly one silverware at Liverpool. And this is thinking shot at your club where I think he is the favorite to win the Champions League. So this quote is great. But if he loses the championship final to Tottenham I don't think it's going to age well at all, and it's probably going to be the first memes. Ic-. But I see what you're in clubs doing. I think it's more it's more joking. Obviously, I don't think he's really trying to take a harsh shot him, especially since he is his contemporary in the Premier League right now just him like one a will, obviously one. And then, like, you're like one b I mean, very neck and neck, obviously, this is this is one of the craziest, competitive Premier League seasons of all time came down to the final day. I don't know of Klopp is in a position to be making those type of jokes, but I mean, fair show. I mean, the guy you know, he live in he'll live and die by the she he says, so. A lot of people are like making, this are taking very serious like the Twitter verse. I'm just saying like. Maybe just, you know that's not like you know, the top comment is says the guy who blew a ten point lead in lost all six finals. He's ever been in. Frogging t- emojis. Fair point. Brady, fair point. But God, damn of your clubs smile doesn't look great in this photo. Oh, this is pretty big news. Two I'm still on ESPN AFC's, Instagram. This just doing this podcast straight from Instagram. We guess a fan questions, which I'm gonna get to shortly. But I just forgot I didn't have time to write notes. And when Martin told me last minute that he wasn't going to be able to pot. I was like, all right. Fuck it. We're you know what? You guys demand content. I'm gonna put it out there. Yeah. So do romo's was trying to force a trade out of unav-. It's forced to trade or. What it is. But he's trying to get the fuck out of dodge out of Madrid. So apparently he was trying to go to China. Florentino Perez came out and said that he came to his office and said he had a very good offer from China believe rules permit them the pay the transfer fee Real Madrid. This is this is Roberto are Florentino Perez. He saying Real Madrid could not afford to let its captain leave for free, as they would set a terrible precedent for other players like on the guys just trying to you fucking paid. He's paid his dues. He's one yes. Shit on the trophies. Come on. God, Peres will be his own downfall, man. I mean, the already has been, especially like the Rinaldo fall out and other players fall out. Like I mean obviously Real Madrid is unbelievable. The won three straight Champions League, which will probably never happen again. Like unbelievable club parades. Some of this shit, he does man makes me go bonkers of, like okay that makes sense. Nice one. But like some of the stuff he does. I'm just like this fucking idiot. God. What else we got going on here? Oh, nimoy got the captaincy. Denny Elvis old asked I love it. Love it. God neymars just been on such a down trajectory hasn't he? God is even relevant. I know he's obviously relevant. He's one of the best players in the world but playing league when he was injured a lot this season. A moment that you remember from the season from neymar at all all I can remember so him like rolling for days in the World Cup clearly getting touched. And he wrote all the way to Timbuktu. Man. What happened to that guy? All right. Well, that's enough rambling, you might forget any stuff going on in the world. Let me see here. Oh, thanks for asking guys. My hand is okay. No hairline fracture. I know you guys are worried. I got into that serious car bike accident. Crazy bitch. Try to kill me but he can't kill love or Kevin. Anything else going on the world note. All right. We're gonna do fan questions before that we're gonna break for quake ad run. Now. Sub guys. I really do. Hope you love listening, lads. But did you know you can actually get paid just for listening to this podcast? What crazy but it's true. We discover this free new app, called pod, coin and literally pays you to listen to podcasts. Here's I works. You listen to podcasts, and you earn pod coin wireless. And then you turn that pod coin in forgive cars at places like Amazon, or Starbucks. Heck, if you're a good person, you can even donate the pod coin to charity. 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But then, again all these giants have a monopoly on the other leagues as well. I had to sit on that because people have been just getting on my last God. Damn nerve that, honestly at this point, I might be up for the Super League at this point, just take all the top, you know, three or four while I was Premier Li top sixteen th Roman a big Super League and see who wins at the end of the day. But then, again could like the PSC's man cities then have on that super ship. Is just like a. Bad domino? Effect it. I don't know. I don't know. That's a good question. If everyone hates UFO, why are people so anti yours Superleague? So I should explain the super euro league would essentially be if you guys have never heard of that is that you take all the top teams like fire Munich PS, g you've Ventas Barcelona Real Madrid. And then pretty much the whole top six primarily, and then maybe throw in a couple of other teams. Like I let it go Madrid. Napoli. I don't know. Fuck, I don't know Syria, maybe Monaco, and then you just make your own league like all, like twenty of them, and that's it. Hm. You know it sounded pretty good. Brock. It is sounding actually pretty good now that you a phone fee just like I'm like this is what you've cost, I think this is, I'm thinking of, like totally. You know, breaking the wheel deniro style, and starting just a whole new type of soccer league just fucked premier like book, LA Lita league. This is what you've you've brought me to, and I hate it, and I hate myself next question. Nikolai RV a says what is your score projection for the Champions League final, and who is going to score? I think I did my early prediction for this. And I think I said, Liverpool three one hour to say he's going to score it's going to be money. Of course. Saleh. Then. Think like for beano someone are now probably Virgil Van Dyke Virgils going to cement, himself as the best defender in the world by you know getting a nice big strong header in the box from a quarter. And then Harry Kane healthy. No. Yeah. Maybe like a cheeky late goal by Lucas more give Tottenham. Hope I don't know. Donna. I'm like, I don't know who's how the who's her who's, you know, naughty or nice next question. Chris says who's winning tomorrow arsenal? Chelsea. Why do you think so? I'm saying arsenal. Again, I talked about this earlier in the pod just because Emory's experience ah bomb can lock that have just been on absolute fire, and then I would probably say like a drawl in the penalties of Nagoya Kante like I don't I think both teams are so even but again gun to my head. I'm going to go with my gunners. I think Emory has the right stuff to make this happen. All right. Let's hop over to Twitter follow Atlanta underscore podcasts. Hons win at Mr. wins. Twenty eleven says there seems to be a pretty good chance LeRoy Sanni goes the buyer in the summer. What do you guys think? Yeah. I think it's definitely a big possibility. Byron obviously losing our Robin, Frank reverie, then either replace replaced, her wings, LeRoy, Sanni in an out of the squad getting a starting spot in Manchester City. So I think it's I think it's very likely. I mean, also LeRoy Sanni being a German national team player will like to go back to his home country, most likely, and I it's like every, you know, German boy's dream. The play for by Munich, the biggest German club in Germany. So I could see, I think it'd be phenomenal on the wing. Oh my God. Just crashing down the left wing and on buyer Munich feeding bowl Linda goski, and like the audio feed him. Oh my God. I think LeRoy Sanni would just, you know, the transition would be unbelievable. Next question at high press pod. Four twenty good friends of the show, have had on the show, says name your favorite actor slash musician and what position you'd think they play on the pitch. I e Jason say them, he's five ten hundred eighty five pounds while he doesn't research for this looks like he could be a midfield destroyer a rough and rugged Senator defensive mid think, like Rajon Golan. Name your I think who's my favorite actor. I would probably pick. Actor. I think my favorite actor of all time has to be Daniel Day-Lewis, but he's not exactly like, you know, I mean, the big name in terms of acting, but not like super Hollywood guy. God, my left foot and the name of the father, gangs of New York. Like a phantom thread, fuck me up. Do you guys? I'm a oh my God. There will be blood God. I love Daniel day. Lewis Lincoln, I have like all his stuff on Blu. Ray God last Mohicans. All right now, actually, I'm gonna pick. Yep. I'm gonna go with Daniel day Lewis. I feel Daniel day. Lewis is just a creative central tacking. Mid can work in all different directions can do so many different things on can score can assist the so much maybe like a center like kind of like his savvy. Yeah. I like that. I like that a lot. Yeah. I'll pick a musician name your favorite musician. That's tough current musician. Man. Is a bad debt air? What I've been listening to lately. Listen to a lot of rap probably pick picking rap. Listen, a lot of gang Warren G like some old shit. Man gangstar be a fucking thug man. He fucking centreback. Oh my God J of kid LAX? Oh, what a tune your would probably pick that would be. Yeah. Gangstar in my back line. God be absolute terror. All right. Sorry. I lingered on that because that's a very good question. I'll probably hold onto this question, because I'd like to see what Martin would say. Next question comes from our discord, channel. Where would you? This is from Logan. Oh, yeah. Our channels chat rooms come hang out. Sometimes it's a cool place where cool guys who like to show talk soccer, other sports. Beer, TV movies. It's just a great chat room guys who are all like kinda similar and kind of different. First question is, where would you rank Rinaldo right now compared to the world's best now after last season? I don't there's a big argument in our discord channel about that. I have in my top three players in the world. I haven't met number two still this. I don't know where this narrative Renaldo hates coming from people putting them baba Eden hazard Virgil Van Dyke above him. If you're telling me, I had to pick a player right now after messy it would still be Renaldo like messy is still my number one. But that's just me. I mean, I know a lot of people over Nado, messy either changeable, and I get that. I understand that. I'm not upset at that. That's your opinion and valid one and like, you know, and some days, I do think that sometime. Well, we're not as is. The best in the world. But this slander I mean like the go to event as go when another league title with them. I know his stats are all down. But in the thick of it, I still pick Renaldo over it. I still haven't been the top three there's people saying, like, oh, he's like a fringe ten player putting him through six to ten. I think you're absurd out of your gourd. Next question comes from the drunk. He says, why don't you ever go to fill union games? They're actually good this season. LL actually. I was supposed to go to the game today, actually with the free kick pas disappeared on their show. Go check them out the free, kick podcasts, but I'm actually I feel so bad. I had to cancel last minute. Actually, then, mommy, back, my money, which is really nice and them. I was trying to now I feel dick like and they're Tyler and Todd awesome. Dude, from Baltimore big Phil union fans, I'm actually going to go see the book of Mormon with my aunt tomorrow. Her boyfriend's like about to be deployed, she'd be really sad. Like we made these plans months ago. And I totally forgot. So I'm gonna see the book of Mormon it's going to be sick. But I would like to go to Philly union games before I move up to Boston. The are crushing it shout the Jimmy curtain cringes. Mic basketball says, what's the most ridiculous transferring you've ever heard? Honestly, our first podcast when name got transferred to PS, gee, I could not imagine. It makes sense. Now in hindsight, by could not imagine leaving messy Suarez when they accomplish the travel done so much him going to PSE. Whoops, fuck that one up. Ridiculous transfer rumors. Oh, the whole messy demand city thing, had a lot of hype bef-, and I never believed it not. No. Not one bit that was ridiculous because Pap in, like he was getting frustrated at Barcelona. Now he's gonna live and die at Barcelona. At least that's my opinion that, but that, that was a very like a lot of people are saying, oh, it's a lot of man's city fans saying, we're going to get messy. I'm like new. You're not. That was a pretty in terms of recent time that was pretty ridiculous transfer. Rumor. Boarder Boyd R M says what team has the clearest path to cracking into the top six who's most likely to drop out? What he probably we're talking out of the top six probably the wolves, I would say the wolves for sure. And most likely to drop out, I would say Chelsea. I'm not trying to be Chelsea hater. But like no no new transfers saris jobs up in the air. Other eating has or might be leaving Nicola Kante. I think he decided to contract. I'm not sure if there's seems a lot of disarray going, and they just made the top four by Philly. There's a lot of disarray going on at Chelsea, and then probably also Manchester United as well. Those will be my two, who would most likely to drop out by don't see the see the top six in the same. Norwich City shell field. United and ask them villa who stays up in who gets relegated. Thank you cringes. Mcmaster ball. There's been a new precedent where teams that come into the Premier League have stayed up and like the majority of them say up, which has been kind of cool. If I had a gun to my head, I would say ask the villas coached really, well, now if they keep their core players, like Jack religious say, I would say they say up and maybe Norwich City also says because they're recent experience in the Premier League. A lot of veterans on that team Sheffield United. I don't know much about ought to say them. So. Yeah, so I was scrolling down. That's all the questions guys. Okay. I really don't have much else to say this kind of a short podcast, sorry of a little like now, exactly. Our best work. But, you know, you just got to roll with the punches man, Scott to hang in there while I was really cheesy. All right. Well, we will see you guys Friday morning. We hope you had a great Memorial Day weekend. Thank you to all who have served in our military, who are going to serve, you guys are fucking awesome. And you guys take it easy and enjoy the short week. Okay. Bye. Some. NBA overtime podcast for all the NBA info you need. I'm Mike Silva. And I'm Ryan McNeil Georgia's each week as we break down the big headlines around the MBA, plus key matchups to watch power and interviews from players and coaches, it's NBA overtime. Subscribe download and listen wherever you get your podcasts.

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A Barcelona Return?

ESPN FC

00:00 sec | 1 year ago

A Barcelona Return?

"This show is presented by Hulu which has lies sports, watch live games, and all your favorite teams live on Hulu. No cable required. Live TV plan required. Restrictions apply. Welcome insulate. Sedition. ESPN FCA. I'm Dan Thomas shown by Ali Ranna, shocker slow and Craig Burley Julianne the wrong be joining us shortly. The big story remains in your, the future of name all this after explosive interview from C, Nassir, Al Khalifa, and he was looking for stern mess with me. Look. Football has certainly captured it quite beautifully Joel's, these, of course comments. Nobody forced name to sign for us. We only want play as willing to give everything for the shirt, just a couple of stand out quotes from that explosive interview. Let's start Charlie with how people in parents have reacted have fans sided with the owner or with name. Very much. So with the Pierre's Yona, and it was about time that Finally, I said, Holly said something publicly about non just name because in the rest of the interview there's also Llosa mentions other issues at the club and other players. But obviously the focus was on Emma in these two seasons at the club, we've seen so many incidents and so many issues and so many problems and also so many privileges name, our hearts, and the others didn't have an I think it was about time now. Finally made the point of this last anymore. If you stay here if you start the club, which is something that we can discuss a bit later on the show as well. You'd have to be more disciplined, you'd have to fit in better and be the same as everyone else, you can't have all those things around you again. Like you had in the last two seasons. This is sponsor, a lotta reaction, of course, in the media, meticulous, Catalonia operation name, all says Mundo deputy about return for the Brazilian Kellyanne county, anti hawked. I felt that most definitely so they Joe's name all to return to balsa. Is it possible? It is possible. Name out relief PHD is right LA right now. The most likely outcome of, of this whole saga really a few months ago, PHD were telling everyone getting aggressive at times, he wouldn't go anywhere in the summer neither him while and Bobby things have changed now and I go to confirm tonight, and my, my article will be on the website, very soon that PSE are now just opening the door. They've crushed the door. The door is gone. Those the doors folding they won't name our odds. They think he's the right time for him to go. And they really believe that there's only three clubs right now who can afford them and before them and want him as well that's much the United run Madrid and Barcelona. Wow. I've crushed the door refused. Yes, you have no way to cook in the morning. When you got your king. You're kidding. She's a good night. Usually we slow. I think completely agree with gills. I think this is. This is. Yesterday in the show. We'll talk on, we got McCoy, and he was saying, well, it hasn't opened up. I'm thinking. Founding open that bud. Why the hell such a strong statement coming out from the chairman, there's just crystal clear and also PSG wanting to move on. Not as obsolete without also has eagle and probably most superstars eagle could suffer. But can you ignominy of, of a statement from from SoHo and go back with the tail between the legs and say, oh, of changed ain't gonna happen? So PSG wanting to get his ego. Are we say, no, I'm not going there. I'm going to be playing for somewhere. Nothing all-round is. If, if he leaves because he hasn't offered. PS G paid for while you live from Aikman. I see. In the morning. I can't imagine that being a word you use. Us by phone. Not what Smith. Sudden United Ramage rate or Bacelona, that seems right? Doesn't it? The three teams can afford is transit fans wages Barcelona needed the most. No. I think I think Real Madrid needed more. I think Real Madrid need that Makira star. They've got hassled. Has nothing nothing to see him department as, as, as a Nema Messier or Renaldo. I don't think I think he fits that Bill all that being said, it's probably an easier fit grim back to Boston, given who still there and friendship continuing fringe. We're Lewis and in a messy the issue for me is what we've seen from the Sydney in Paris is that he wants to be the focus. He wants to be the center of attention. And he's not going to get that and cuts, not wildly in a Messier, still there if we can come to terms with that, if he's happy to play second fiddle yet, again and be a team player yet again. Yes, it makes perfect sense to go back to Boston. And he was given the chance to go and be the center of attention. That's what he was opposed to be a PS, gene. And so, when, when you hear this, I no longer one superstar behavior, and I'm not defending name are here, but who allowed that superstar behavior? It's p g that created that platform and that states and say here you go. Neymar do whatever you want and. It would have been all okay. Had name arm Bs g deliver on what they were expecting. But since they came up with shore. Then everything becomes a problem, including neymar sad. It's in a nameless, behavior and all of this. And so when we say, well, neymar as looking is now going to play second fiddle, it didn't work out being the leader of the pack. It didn't work out being the guy so you might as well go do something that actually were pretty good at playing second fiddle to leeann intimacy and Barcelona was pretty good at that, too. So it makes sense for Barcelona. When you think about not so much neymar as much as Cotin what continue has been for them or hasn't been for that? And that big hold that they haven't been able to replace. And so named martyr slice writing, I just don't know how the numbers workout. That's, that's part that I it doesn't seem like it would be doable. And yet, we give here. Oh, yeah. Sure. No problem. Look over here. Look over there. No problem, we'll numbers and everything's gonna work out, Barcelona in that regard makes some sense. Some sense he did become the center. Attention for the room that you wanted. But not for the reasons that Pierce g wanted, and that was the big problem. You can you can put off you can set in the mode of behavior. It's off the rails, if you get the obsolete top dollar for your play, okay? And I understand he's at a couple of entities. I understand that. But in general, general Tim's over the broader picture, they've had just had a headache with them as bro as headlines. But just for all the wrong reasons a boss learned the favorites Joel's those three teams. I think they will be. They are in the sense that he he wants to. I think that's his ideal this donation really. He wants to go back there. He he was happy with the life day was happy with the team, even if he wanted to be the center of attention. Like we said any left because they want to play second fiddle more, there's a lot of things that would attract him again there and I think the fact that Macy talked about very recently before the Copa America started. They still have that what's up group between him Suarez a name and they took all the time. And they, they want him back and this, and, and I think like, like Ali said he would fit in so well right there because he's never been replaced, and it would feel like he's coming back home in many in many ways. So I believe as much as we love him United in the permanent because I think we would have appropriate off. That's nice. Niceness cable, not reunited anyway. Now on the Kelly, Kellyanne, Kellyanne front page also free of Freya with regards to antone grease, men and his future. This is what humor in the let's say a couple of weeks ago. I know exactly what Greece was going to play. I've known since March involves Celona. However, the boss of president about time when we say and he said, we always said it would never spoken to him. There's nothing we already seeing how the market is growing these days and weeks. Let's come in on Joe's craze men to gasoline is off completely, or does it depend on name? Well, I think when when they agreed. The book Boston, I'm Greenman to, to, to join together next season. There was no name on scenes, and at that time, PHD abdomen. Like we said that he was not for sale the fight. He's back on the market. The name is back on the market might change something phones, when grease man that he would not have been announced before the first of July anywhere because that's when the clothes in ingredients contract changes. But now there's a big question Mark over, and I and I believe, don't want is in the dark about what can happen. The fact is he cannot go back to Madrid now after announcing on a video and saying he was leaving, it would be almost impossible for him to stay to stay this. So what's going to happen next for him is? Is very much in the air, and I wouldn't be in this position, I would want to be in this position my long as it doesn't release a video. I'm not bottled. No. I couldn't bear, another one of his Hafer videos, but you sat through enough. I'm still adamantly. He would be a fun silent for Liverpool. Them and the success. They've had ho cost the came to mind set and talk with them off the top, and the call in the he brings and the fact that they have been sorry originally called a couple of very important goal. We but I think long term unit better quality, nothing to have some can aid in abet and rotate with for Minoan upfront fee. I I'll be fun SaaS to condition. I don't know if it's something that could be done, but I think if they are going to bridge dot GOP to mindsets that's the kind of player they're going to be looking up. Joe's. Yeah, I agree. I agree with everything Craig has been saying it's a fascinating one really if, if you think about where we were last summer with Greece men, and, and he could have gone certainly than for Tabatha and decided why in the end to stay there was obviously that video that was disgraceful. Really and shameful? And then I was certain it was really certain that it could happen with Barcelona. And now here we are again where it's not so certain anymore. So it's interesting one and as much as I think it would fit where we live pool. I think he would also fit in many ways with a PHD. The fight is PG now want to build a Tim around Kilian mbappe and is the Kobe tation between mbappe paying grease, man. Way to take you to the next level in the Champions League. I'm not so sure it seems like the club is no social either. Meanwhile it's the first time you've been on Jolson side, quite from pull poke, but saying, I think, for me, it could be a good signs have any challenge somewhere else. I am think I am thinking to have a new challenge somewhere else. How's this going to end? Joel's. It would I like we've said on this show for many weeks now, he's basically setup likley, what would be tending viewers on the show is that he wants? He wants to go. Now if failures is the right time to go. There's no champion think Trafford's this quad might get a little bit better than ever going to sign world class players this summer anywhere. And he knows that and I think he phase after three years there on the back of by season. Even if we disagree on what best season means he fills us he's base season, the numbers in a way back him up on that as well. So he feels is the right time is either events, remedied. I don't think there's anyone who can afford him right now. And what he would want to go anywhere anymore. Another planet. Looks like he's on his way out to the Old Trafford is remnant Akaka. This is what national about so much. Martinez had to say it's clan that Roman mkaku needs to leave Manchester United. It would be good for both parties surprise team has has gone public with this gills, obviously, interupting very closely linked to a move for the Belgium strike. He's been he's been defending umbrella authority in the last few weeks. He also said, Romney's, not happy, and when he's not happy Khan expressed himself probably on the page. But when he's happy, he's one of the best strikers, in the world in the world or in Europe that kind of stuff, and it way that job Martinez to protect his players the ones that he has with him in the national team. And nothing. That's why he's been so vocal about an even giving away as we so that he surely he's looking for moving and probably would not be Muslim United next season. But I know for fog, does not set well with, with clumps when international managers. Yep. I mean it's bad enough for an for football clubs from players go away and international duty in the comeback injured managers, go possessor. So not to have a manager of high profile manager talking about a plan needs to leave a club. I'm I'll tell you how I rate, they will be at Manchester. United about Coleman's up. I mean it's I don't know how many of those of made suggestions about players, but not strong. Especially when rumors that to be believed these two clubs negotiating I mean for both for both parties. It's it has to be inferior documents known about it. Yeah. They must have we must have spoken to Muncie. Martinez got places mental national manager to look after his international squad yet, but not coalmine of exiled leaving club. Exactly if I'm remember Lukaku here, and as much as I may be been this discussion with, with my international manager about about my future and what it may mean on I knew that, that clubs are speaking the last thing I want is Roberto Martinez chiming in on having his see and kind of revealing some seven Lukaku thoughts. I kind of upset in both clubs and in the middle of the process that enough is though isn't well. Right at the mount of Thenia is can look after his boy when he is with his boy. Right, when they're having that conversation between the two of them, and he can say to Luke maye Romolo. Hey Romolo, maybe it's time to go. But that conversation nother conversation to the world is nobody else's business, and it could very well impact negotiations it could tamper the negotiation he could lean the negotiations one way or the other. And now you're putting the player in a position where he has to defend one way or the other. It's an uncomfortable place to be if you're over at the Martinez, you've put look in the middle of all of this, where you can go said, maybe it's time for you to go, but right here on a personal conversation not out in public. See that's the thing. And I'm a fully agree what's to begin by Roberto Martinez? Seeing this who gains other than Roberto Martinez being on the back pages. I don't understand what's benefit to anybody. If gotta Southgate was to say, oh, you know, hurricane. Hurricane. Hey, you're gonna leave taught them. No. Did you show or kill him? Bobby UPS, then look into anything needs to go around Madrid or go Leconte needs to leave Chelsea because not playing in the right position. He hasn't been planning possession dot will infuriate these clubs and potentially potentially make that relationship with releasing on those rules and regulations about releasing players. But clubs have a way of getting around that something's. And it just it just puts a rod and the medal of that relationship and not could be detrimental done the line to calculate these laws came United chills. I think so. And I think he doesn't want to be not the first choice striker and Marcus rush food certainly be the first choice next season for for Oregon asocial from Worcester United. So there's, there's a room for him right now on the bench. I don't think that's what he wants. Anyway. The thing is he has a very big salary and United will want to high transfer fee as well for him to go. So whether inter, for example, as does declare who are they talking to can afford him? That's a different story as well here, in example. So I just quickly for example, say there's been talk that you're not lemons is going to go to Manchester. Right. So say hypothetically, unity lemons goes to Manchester. United Ronald Cocu leaves without the Roberto Martinez rhetoric United States pay a fortune in wages. Less complete not friendly go play in that game. And I know that. Regulations and yet may for regulations but cubs can make it uncomfortable for a player by saying, listen we're penny wages. So we want to protect you, by the way, it will not happen. So you know what I'm saying to three players for my country and a manager's making statements about football clubs with the Rams of has job specification, then dot can cause issues done the lie in particular club has the international players. I'm telling you things he's picking on necessary. Fight and took stay in the United, they're in a big blow to trouble on. They hope gone, new Kaku going Vanda, soccer may be coming in. Where's he going to play? Every way if you'll Manchester United. There's some fan and you saw what happened long season. Our on earth they gonna get over this hump. The rebuilding job of that score is just momentum is so big is bigger than than what we've seen in recent years for top, top clubs, you know and, and run focusing on the defense, which is probably right to start there with the right back and centre back. One beside car as we saw tonight with the under twenty one, for example, is an outstanding tunnel, whether it costs fifty or sixty million, which is a lot of money for someone who just one season in the Premier League is a different debate, but they need a ride back and rear one appropriate. One, now the young kind of ride bikes and send with a sense of bike. And you said, you might be the guy that could have had him a year ago for twenty five million pounds. And now they might have to pay sixty and probably eighteen they won't hire as well. So don't away. They will find enough money to rebuild their squad, completely if already a right back and centre by cost them in excess of one hundred fifty million pounds, of course, to follow all the latest the manage the United States. All this say AMI Dade all of the. Trances over the summer. Go transit took I've on the websites who is paying type in Haith county, Lloyd Murray Pugh and other US. Soccer stars, a lot of money to do a new go celebration code Hulu has lie sports. Why, what's simple? Because Hulu has lies sports. You can watch the biggest gains and sporting events on sixty plus Tom channels no cable required. Plus, you can stream the entire hoodoo library. Start your free trial of Hulu today. Live TV plan required. Restrictions apply. Learn more her Lou dot com. Let's take you through what's happened in the first round of matches sawing off with Brazil Allie. Of course had a close eye on this tournament. What's up the table? One three now. Maybe he just websites. Okay, fine style. But what stood out for me from probably the hold, though, he's games was how terrible they were in the first half of that much against Bolivia. And if you wanted a clear picture us to how terrible they were the final whistle goes in the first half, there's Boeing and modem be stadium in south bottle. And I mean booing and, and it was welded surf, because this is a team that in that I have looked like they were not even interested in the company Titian, and there is a lack of urgency and, and really like a real talent for Brazil, and yet they come out in the second half, I ten minutes, they're dynamic. And that's the only ten minutes that they really play. And then right there. They killed the game. Now they didn't win three nothing genus course through humane. Save putin. You had a great game. No, he did not score through maybe that feels the team with some confidence. They feel better about themselves. But it has to be said that the level of competition. I believe you simply was not good enough. And bully in Brazil may feel a whole lot better about this game that they really should they were. Okay. That's it. That's why as friendly as I can be. They were okay. They did enough. But I think they have to get better as a tournament goes on. It's real apathy, though. It seems to be surrounding them as well. And if you if you look at their song eleven Craig there is talent that you're not Brielle jobs zoos coming off the bench for me. Is this just a case of the John just throw these people together and hoping that it stakes given they've had hardly any time? Like I suppose any team in this tournament to kind of really gonna process together. Thanks. Daniel had a long season Grayson customer, then have a great season. You're looking at triplets at know each other very wellness. And obviously the goal is one of the best continual, can he find these form. Charleston's note to the scene. So he I mean that's a big pressure for some Richarson who actually was the team and the second half of the season. And for me no had a long season with nj at the end for love. Appeal look himself and the Champions League final. So there's some NASA measures we wanna to the players either not put in well are coming off injury or having long seasons. Maybe under five, the huge pressure for these countries in this particular Brazil plan in the home. So but I think the good thing is if your Colombia and Uruguay two of the strongest teams haven't watched Argentina Brazil, that has a confidence within a couple of stronger teams that this could be there for them. Brazil still favorites. They are it's still Brazil, and they're still playing in Brazil. And so and every time that this tournament has been played in Brazil, they won. So history will tell yes there still favorites. But just to kind of. Give you a full picture of Brazil Chatterley's on who we spoke about may have been Brazil's best player in that first game. Well, and the other thing that when you look at Brazil, and you have to valuate their death their, their best position in terms of death is goalkeeping or they have Allison another some when, when when, when you're talking about Brazil, you talk about them having death in the goalkeeping position, but Notting they're tacking positions. Not, not not, and the final third, not in the attacking half where you have to have creativity and goal scores and guys that you would say, yeah, this guys that are that are going to win the game for us. It's not happening on that side. And you have to look for Edison analysis to be the death of this team. It gives you an idea what Brazil is right now. For us not to be. Options. The challenge from Brazil, and why I almost sympathize them a little bit against Bolivia is that they've had to figure out life after nemo after he goes on Jin. He has been their focus for quite some time. What do you do? Or how do you call without him? I'm as good as they are at the back and a knew a whole Brazil, for bullets is built to note what defines want to be talking about, as you have the likes of who's going to be leading the goalscoring charge. His numbers in Brazil should aren't really that good city, not anywhere near as good as they often Liverpool. I wear those goals come from, especially when you look at those mentioned and continue on his struggles, there'd be hard to beat. But I just don't see the score score in a lot of goes team scored notables Joe's per so favorites. VA. The have to be on home soil as well, even without neymar even with all the issues that the boys have mentioned now, I think they have to be favorite. And when you see Argentina struggling as well, and yes, there's a Ryan Cheerios, well, cheated, the holders are still think Brazil have to be the favourite meanwhile, Argentina, of course, hyphen that campaign with a two nil to fate against Columbia, Columbia, bitten into knowing it's interesting. There was a debate between gab and Stevie about that to fate. San messy tight responsibility here it was a pool game from him. But Stevie saying, look, you know, so of help is he getting in the mid failed to get in the bowl, where do you stand on this? Throughout all the struggles of Argentina, and their federation, and the lack of continuity, and consistency. And they're like a structure of Argentina football. The one thing that they've always had is good players. It's talented players players had on the field that could could decide a game when you look at this version of Dana, and what we saw from them in that game against Colombia is, there is a bunch of players out there that are not to the Argentina level of years past and to your point, our the point of Stevie, those guys playing out of the midfield down by Los Angeles. And they Maria horrendous horrendous. There was no transition by Dina through the midfield. It was long volved by Otamendi trying to play the ball over the top where maybe said he was going to win a fifty fifty challenge in the air against Jerry Meena. No, it wasn't going to happen. And it happened time and time again. And this. Guys out of the midfield. They're not getting on the ball. And so when we were previewing the tournament thing that we're talking about is messy. He's gotta stay higher on the field. He's, he's gotta being the final third because that's where he can make an impact. But what happens is that if he doesn't come and get the ball from the centre bags or the center midfielders, he doesn't get service, and he becomes yet another passenger in a game in which I Don t know, right now they don't know whether they're coming, or they're going, they're looking at each other, and they're hoping that messing is going to resolve something it's not happening. They were by far of the of the big name teams. The worst thing we've seen play Joe's. Let you saw. No, no. Read social media with Massey's hopeless rates. I thought you made it says you're grumpy. I can believe that. I say and he's not without fault and he's not with just saints in general, not just in this competition, but over the previous, I just sends them there's another look at Tina site. Now I'm Ali. I don't I've looked at previous knowledge and tendencies of still enough. Oh, wow. How do they know when in not call? I'll look that's nothing. They went and I'll be jolt and I think, as a general frustration has just boiled over with Massey, and it's hard. And you think right. I'm playing from country, a know the pressure on an to do more, but I think he's demoralized. He's demoralized. Getting on the patch immortalized with coach and say he's demoralized with the structure of the federation. And then on top it gets up. Jewish smashed with a baseball by every time they don't win and then not let clo- Mara. Donald comes out and says something and the whole thing, just ignite and just sense. I just think no ill. Looks to me like a guy who's just HUD enough. I think that's coming through, and he's play geography. Yeah. And, and that's something that he has to take responsibility for, because there is a there are times in which messy all too easily just kind of disappears in the game. And you one more because of what you see week to week with Barcelona. But it's two different scenarios is two different worlds that we're talking about. And so, yes, Leon and messy. He's human. And he is not immune to all the things that are going on around. There are national team and all the negative attention that they get in that he gets. And so therefore, there are times in which may subconsciously humid just say, you know what? You guys take it for guys. See if you guys can do any better because always Lee right now, whatever we're trying to do is not working, and it's going to be my responsibility. Whether we win or we lose is going to be my responsibility. That's a tough world to live in. But that's the world messy being the best player in the world. And arguably the best player in history is going to have to care, and maybe that's where the comparison, maybe that's where the discussion comes because with messy and Rinaldo without level because an annoy the countries in the pressures are maybe or are slightly different. But when you look it up, Portugal site over the years, you don't look it up. Portugal, have a genuine looked at the Portuguese even when while great team. Fusion players, but it's Wortman light, but yet, he's been able, he's been able to almost not handedly a huge chunk dragon team to beg results. And I think that that's kind of the difference between Coatesville if they have an identity when they won the euros I was very well. It was a way I don't care if the boring yet defend. Well, then he will not get frustrated fees. Nocera pops up with the goals, and ostrich site where you compare against the at least the French the Spanish and those teams. Another thing that would be a criticism when you look at Massey, putting an opera Sabe and Rinaldo played enough. I'm good this one thing. Cripe barely just brought the Rinaldo messy comparison, by the way, that was none of all, do you did that very much on your own? What? Because you always say why we do what we can. Patterson tents on national football and planning competition. If we the team is average yet of the Portuguese teams haven't been much than not. To that point, it just wasn't who's a plan. I think important to social media has has us living in this kind of parallel universe. We're between your style. You're be between messy on Renaldo whenever their team's win is because they've been fantastic. Yeah. Whatever the teams lose their absurdly use, and there's nothing in between rich again rather rather ridiculous. But I'm with outta here. And for me after little messy announced his retirement posted Copa America to twenty sixteen. I was surprised that it came back because there was nothing about John Tina about their setup about the players coming through that suggests that it was going to get any better yet. So he because he wanted to live that silverware for fudging Tina. He was convinced to come back on have another goal. And you just seeing the same frustrations paying out over and over again. And he just looks even more frustrated than he did after twenty fourteen I did after twin sixteen. It's not going to get any better ramifications. If he just throws a Tolan. He'll, he'll say. I, I know if I were advising him, I'd say, just leave it is not Joseph better. I mean on last night, I was so excited, I think everyone is always excited to wash Argentina starting competition like that, whether it's the World Cup or a cappella God and then Indian, we all very disappointed all disappointed because they just don't play as a team. This is not a team. This is not a team is messy and ten of the players who like Alice said, I know show how to play what kind of system, they play if they have to pass him the ball every single time they have or actually tried to build something without him. So he can get the ball closer to the opposition's box, then, then, if he drop deep it's an absolute mess. And I don't think it's colonie is a very good manager in the first place anywhere. And certainly not good enough to answer all those issues at the same time, of course there was another team in. Hey. Columbia one, and I did have a plan and they did set up well. And they took their chances when they. There were far superior to our dean in the first half. Second half are a little bit better and so- Columbia, just kind of sat back and said, well, they may be better than us right now. But I don't think they could break this down and we can go into counter on weekends stretch. Dina's defensively, and in one we want situations. You saw the speed and the peso guys Martinez and doing about what an excellent. See someone that the land, and you just have, and these are players that came off the bench other way. So without a tremendous performance by that he would have to come off because of injury, this guys come off the bend, and they make a difference. And it was a point that Craig made earlier, if you're Columbia, you sit back and you say, wait a minute. We just dominated Argentina. We won this game who else around here can beat us? And you, you look across the boring like, well, this version of Brazil, we can take we can we can get after we can even get after the why it's there for them. And it's, it's now one of the drawbacks Coloma in the past has been that they get one of those results, and then the next game, they think that they've. They were ready won the World Cup. Yeah. And they were ready one medic, and they want everything. They're the best in the world. So it'd be important for them to make sure that they handle this success properly. And if they do Columbia will be there at the end of the these teams are struggling does not mean this enough and you for Venezuela? Wow. Don't don't don't, don't get me going. Well happened outside proposed in action tonight as Japan, taking on Chile formulates before the break, Pulau make one. A simple ball unto the Bob's. Full jobs rises above everybody else's a powerful header. Into the second half week. Oh, Vargas would give a second there. There is hugely, flexible happy on his way. He's just trying to get this Anthony sided thing to keep, how's it couple of comfortably know how much she nine fans. This is like Sanchez scoring and go. Red jails. Rome. I'd say one was, it won't go for unite. They share one go for Chile now as well. And then just moments off now he plays in volumes who it make four now. Yeah, that's essentially says sister that's gonna let me listen. Yeah. Productive game side him. Hey away rear did. Want you hate match issue Japan now to I four then is highly finished and had fallen macho in groups say all teams to in Qatar in Japan. I. How the invites. Neither do is Azmat era call. I also with a convincing win as well against Ecuador Uruguay really good. Yes, they were. And that's even having to look past the fact that looked like he's carrying a few extra seventy five. He meets about ten more than that. However, we do you, do you have enough experience in this team where they can defend well, and they can be scary at times, and is a team that just finds way to advance in the tournament, there is way way, big shit a bake shirt, and he's coming about her name, obviously, the recover them goes well smoothly as possible. I gotta go, that's it. Thank you very much shift off. He's got gone do Bolivia. All right. Tonight. Objective common trait. Dramatic out Nefer, France and England AIn group safe FRANZ winning by two goals to one, but it had pretty much everything England's aching the late in the second half of go by Phil Foton Chowdhury then sent off two late goals. The French so give them old three points a game. It was Joe's. It was fantastic. It really was an let's be honest phones. Don't deserve to win that game mature for most of the game England where the better side by looked like FRANZ with just a summit of individuality making a team who is England where proper team with individualities in it. And for a long time it showed because England had clear chances to SCO FRANZ did miss two penalties. The first one was saved by the Handerson the second one hit the post and yet in the end in the dramatic fashion phones, Francois wanted it again. Probably didn't deserve to. But it's a great start for them considering only the top of this group qualify and then a second the best of the second of the three group. We'd go to semifinals when something about allowing Joe's considering the Gold Cup starting in Concha cafes. And then got people excited they in South America couple of America hasn't really going, but this tool seems have really hit the ground running some real quality on shy. Yeah. Coined credit but, I mean Germany the other day where I thought fantastic against Denmark, the, the opening game of the tournament was Italy the host who have such an incredible squad. If you think about it with, with kids on your and king, and all of those players out of them most of them with with experience in Syria against Spain, who also have a very talented squad. And Italy scored one three one again with one fantastic or from Kay's is well so he looks very good. And, and again, I think everyone should should have a look at the future superstars of these ones were like we said, already with experience into flat football's per surely, with, with, with talent and for years to come Juliana around thank you very much based show to China's on tomorrow. Shall we say, the low will be here? We telling us which of the two Spanish giants. Hey, thinks name could be heading to this summer. The final round of matches in group c today. Eat today. It's ready. I'm Brazil old throw quite dramatic though. It was a late penalty by so that gave Brazil old three points against Italy. An also we saw Australia beat Jamaica by full goes one history in the making to make us going that I ever go in a World Cup cake. Markgraff with us, of course throughout the tournament Kate. Let's first off talk about Australia that was a pretty critical of them going into the sauna tournament, obviously, will the Pavo regards the coach going into it all. But they all fruit to the next round, and they're through in the next round because they have the one of the best players in the world. Sam Kirk who scored four today bringing her World Cup tally to five, and that's tied with Alex Morgan for leading goal scorer. But Australia's leaky defence has got to be defensive. And for anybody that wants to matilda's go all the way. But with her ability to put four away today, it put them into second place, due to gold, French-ill that means Brazil got to third. And then they don't have to now Brazil, place, France and Austria gets to avoid one of the tournament favourite and the Brazil it is, is the hair. And she is, she scored on a penalty, kick or second, PK goal this tournament. But that puts threat seventeen which is more goals scored for any player over Miroslav Klose, who had sixteen from Jamaica, of course getting obviously out. But getting that goal it was huge. It was huge it was a beautiful goal bunny Shah played it through. And this is a team that's been totally supported by Bob Marley's daughter. She has been funding and bankrolling and recruiting players, and this is really a whole team that was working with her and. Got their first goal made history. In spite of their federation Shaq is go its how to Bomani lyrics, which one they shocked. Well, so. God bless Newman curse of you got. It's on the show. On the. Group day. We'll finish them All England the final wait goods. England's going through Japan is going through four points. Gets you through now. It's just a matter, if Scotland who's played so conservative with three very talented players if they're going to take a more aggressive approach against very organized Argentine source insane, or are they three? They have a chance to get through prey to me. Well, because she'll school tash they're totally into this all the time about it. But as you can show fraud, daily podcast puzzle calls Kate, and semi bring everything you need to know about the women's World Cup in that daily podcasts as well. Welcome in the latest. Addition, extra time, thank you very much for your tricks. Aw. Survey, I wanted to be the one. That we're trying to get him by whatever the one. Did show you that was people here that want that you've taken off the podcast. That's not a nice. Of Salazar replaced. I'm only telling you Kate's shoot the messenger at what point does football abound, involved. Now now. No, it's just that they're using it all the time in the menstrual Cup. It didn't seem like it was like interfering with the flow in this micro refereeing. Well. On the floor because because VAR as operational all the time I wouldn't stop play from open play for free. Still in play for a conduct or red cod defense. Cakes people operates involved as well. You're not going to stop the game. Jury the normal flow of a game, unless it's inside the penalty, I- penalty, or a possible regulate faffing with it. Oh, it's the hunt bowl. And then the stupidity of the goalkeeper with a foot in the lane when but that's a, that's a law. That's not via then by coal, if they don't stop Capers from our forwards, or levers taking penalty kick from stutter stepping, they should allow goalkeepers move off their line. It's just one sided. That's what's frustrating about this. Speaking to keep us a shocker vegtable to plan. My Sunday League team icon for a competitive wage is be incredibly appreciating the which some, the love able this depends where as. That's a good part as somewhere sunny climes. I'm I'm available a by me, play is it one of the? The vet veterans they go masters games. Last time I played Raymond that you'd be playing sooner rather than later Shang. I have to death the Zola tech affairs. There's money involved. This has got her teeth. Sunshine Sunday, China's own plan now it's cloudy ball because he gets to go to the Cayman Islands. The old chestnut wasn't knows. Chestnut? The old one. Trek. Particularly when you get money plan, not suggestion. Geico play. And then all of a sudden with an of the game calf straight. No. I I've heard that. I've heard that Doug to me. Yes, Cokie because no one expects and then thing for you, and they were all fat and common around anymore. And so you don't really I I just don't play football. Very seriously advice, Saka just went the engine tennis school and play these Moscow's things on an rip achilles off. Year to paint golfing. I couldn't play even if you said to me, I'll give you X amount of money to come and play an could. We need to move on, because we need to talk to arrests and agents gets all can't stripped to the twenty twenty World Cup. Joel's off after Petit knees arresting. It's three days today. They can't they can't change it now. So even if in east charge, which she hasn't been here, even if the bladder who will be question again, very soon. If changes, or even if Infantino, and whoever is still right now gets involved too, and, and this, this proves all everything. But we already know what happened. We already know what happened, but that's not going to change. They will have they twenty twenty two woke up in the winter when he collects it makes questions we gave from Iraq. So what is your comfort food? We know Stevie is shepherd's pie. How the match is in the hotel nachos. The wine not bottle of wine. Good. Anyone who spends Sean, which savvy as you do? Yeah, I just finished the rest of his perone because you know he's. As you know, as I it se on you. Yeah. She. Shocking offense for sellers. He's good lady. Me me. This podcast. Half a parole half a bleeding Perron and night. Is there any Leo? The twenty second. From anything from the Caribbean com. Yeah. Yeah. You more for comfort during food. Two final questions. If you could play what roundabout solve anyway. Oh, where. Would you pick your guest? Same as you. I guess. Can you play on? It can be kind of fish Nick at night. Got might light on now. You can you can play if you go to the masters, as a journalist. Yes. Well, we could what then there's a lot of throw after the event for amount sports, say faulty amongst the couple of hundred as journalist, and then those faultier will ever get to play on the Monday. Okay. With the exact same sets up. 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Gab and Juls: Liverpool's Slow Start

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Gab and Juls: Liverpool's Slow Start

"The. Jewish. Oh, since father's Day, which means that jewels? You have a huge style. Your face because you went to you got to see. You got to celebrate father's Day with with Anthony Gordon. Yes exactly. Yeah to leave my house. Early early afternoon, drive up to Lipoprotein this wounded fool. Six. Dhabi goes I never. I never thought we'd see him this flesh and blood so close to me, but he was. Exciting. To be phased a ton, English like all AVERSA to rights, but hey father's day sometimes not exactly what you want him to be. How? How was your father's Day? It was good. It was good i. mean you know I I don't have a son new plays in the premier. Like you do from an earlier relationship. Kinda digressing. Let's let's move on. We'll be talking emergency. Darby will be having usual quick hits. Darby whis a man who's won the World Cup. Yes, shrunk the birth. But LET'S START Dot because rouse outta against Madrid. This is the kind of match you have in Spain that people talk about for awhile huge win for Real Madrid. I thought they were three big controversial incidents and you added a fourth. Yeah so. You be. Kind with zero on his yellow early on in the game when he jumps for the board with McCain Marino and Seems to me very much leader I. Yeah, and go yet. Did you didn't seem to think there was much more? Real time for granted and thought about it, and I thought you know. Twenty two minutes into a game to send somebody off around. Madrid. Playoff is a big call. Could have happened. But he gave a yellow and you know how we're in England I. Hear this all the time like Oh when people complain about somebody gets into also to go. Free spoiled the game because he said somebody off because I know the rules I don't know. I mean I have less of an issue with that I. have to say okay well, Bob the finishes penalty, because from where I see it, there's no enough coincide, so he goes for the show and the defenders of. Put his legs on. Maybe there's touch on from foot to foot. That I'm not sure. That's what you call a soft penalty. I think it's more that he puts his foot. In the path. Of Venetia right so we need to go around it. It's almost like a like. He has to take a vase of action and he does not get the ball. I mean we've seen a lot of those. Knock giving yet. Not One was given and you know. If you WANNA be. A speed or and see conspiracy there and say well. So be it, but I have less. I have less of an issue with that one, but it's is quite quite close games to tie game snail mail a halftime you go in. This is the first goal and you know how important those goes on, and then they swings off the game. Too was was remedied. The end up of course converted by CYCLORAMAS, who then came off yet? But before he came off. That he became the defendant with the most goals in La, Liga history. Whether you like him on all in. He deserves I think he deserves. A lot of credit is seven goes. You know I mean. Goes for defender Coupla the only thing I want to point out. Is that my main man Fernando Hierro scored? Opinions feed like half of his career. No I just wonder what kind of people go back and it was our friend Mr Chip. Go back and say like all right. Let me go through every single goal, and under hero has ever scored in his career. No one hundred and I think he's on one hundred and ten and I think it was fifty. One of them were when he played as a defender fifty two. I, don't know I honestly like. What Barcelona Losing Jared PK play center forward in the last ten minutes of the game. What did you? Kind of like he staff I see. But. Then he came off injured your right, you knock on his knee. In real pain, but Sony a knock. Yeah, as I, I don't think this going to have really really looks like his knee collides with. When he was with me and stuff like that. You know typical things hurts like hell. Yeah, but hopefully won't have any. Any lasting. A damage. Now. The goal. Are So meka Marino is standing. In front of the goal. He's clearing an offside position. So the call. Here is subjective, call. Is he interfering. With the opponent. Do you think that if you okay if you if you position yourself behind the goal behind Courtois Do you think that? There's a point where courtois doesn't see the anymore I. Don't I think it was straight from this from way leaves. And he can see all and yeah. Okay McCain Marino is there and the bodies. There are just some again. It's not enough. He's on the ball, and not just that, but also I'm pretty sure. Marino takes a step one way which I think could also throw for mine. You'll kind your count with remedy. You'll really. On that one I mean. I mean. Like. You said he's. He's very subjective anyway and. Then my win the League the minorities might counter law is minority that trump is lead them I know. We we, we know at the end of the season, but it's one of those games that always seems to go rummaged rare. Is Very rarely that we. Hear that. We sit here. Sorry and talk about all. Go, you know scored a dodgy penalty. Then remedied goal disallowed for dodgy offside. Then, Russell, ask go good that. Maybe there was angry. It's always round Madrid buster enough for that case tools. Are you telling me that big clubs that big leagues get the call most of the turn? I think that does tend to happen. I think when it's marginal situation and you have a week. A referee tends to happen I think. This stuff happens when referees aren't sure. like you said earlier soft penalty. You know the elbow. Yeah, if he's not sure he gives the benefit of the doubt to the bigger clubs and something that happens. Maybe shouldn't happen, but yeah. You're right when they're sure. I don't think they do I mean. Except for some of those historical. That we know about. The benza one. Now. I saw several replays, and maybe I'm stupid, but I couldn't figure out where the ball hit him like how far up his? Couldn't now. I'm assuming that they are could. And this is where I have a problem with it. I think a situation like that. Unless the VR secret cameras that they don't share with the rest of the world over fact that they don't. I didn't get such a subjective situation that. The referee should go and look at it. Regardless. On this four incidents we've mentioned it should have. And have a look at all of them I think, and but that one even more because. because. He's the second goal the Goodson love as So watching it, I thought. For for benzene is incredible. Second Gugans Valencia I. Don't Care I. Give Him this I don't care. Touched he's. He's on his shoulder. He second against volunteer was so amazing I give him this one again. This it up point of view. You feel really aggrieved by that goal again and I think they played well. you know. That is brilliant. Start to the season. There was that there was some uncertainty, but here I thought they really came to play on the night. I think we're also seeing that all ready. Just the rhythm of these games coming one after the other. Playing late at night and yet I. I think in some ways. It is kind of a big leveler. Talked about before nine in Barcelona I mean. Maybe it's a little bit better over you know. Since coming back in those three games. Yeah, but it is taking a lot out of you. I mean it really is. It really is a grind. On the day. These surprised us. Yeah, you shoes and. Played since October not as the starter. Yeah, and what was what was his logic there? I think you know maybe a bit of rotation resting. Of babies injured again. While he's not. Sure and I think has hasn't has was Arthur. Really good. I mean especially Valencia and the way. Is Linking. We've been semi. Specialise is quite interesting. Maybe you don't to claim coming back from such a long injury, so you pull out on, the banks want to overplay anybody. Even more. Love to be even more careful with. You could say this is rouse wanted. This isn't like an S. yeah, they're not gonNA. Come you know that's the part which surprised me a little bit that he saw. and he was vindicated in case of the case if initiates West. Yeah, but he figures that Hamas and RENISHA HAMAS wasn't played in forever. On presumably is very well. Rested is a better bet. Than some of the other guys at his disposal in a huge game like this I thought that was interesting because. Amick Barcelona dropping points on Friday. I'm you going to this game? You're away from home. I mean relatively. And you go with the guy who really hasn't played for you. Who hasn't been that good for you? Who? Probably shouldn't really be. Anybody to take him I mean. That takes component yeah. Imagine the criticism of Hamas cost them the game. Yeah, and also yes, so he takes a lot of corners as you said Love Trust from Zizou towards Hammond towards players. And and again I think shows. How an amazing management! Khushi as which is which is great, doesn't win you trophies, or at least not as many as as the dentist on so I think there's more to him than that, but certainly on that point I was like. Okay. Let's see. Let's see what happens, and Hamas was not amazing. You know it was. It was times. He and Venetia seemed to be on the same way the. Lost during game. I that was by design. You know, let's use Marcello and Hamas and totally overload one size. You. Know I. Don't know you're right, and maybe because Hamas and Blitzer so long. It is a bit more time to to get into the groove again, but yeah, I thought it was a perfect life as down again vindicated as you say, and also the fight, it's not justified Adra. Points is that it didn't play well. It's all another momentum. shoes for Madrid who I've been playing better I. think in those three games. Combined and not a leading because of the head to head in the classical. And have an easier schedule in Davis on paper, Valencia and Rosacea, she died in the same week three days apart and to go to Valencia. You know and win the way they did especially second half. Where was fantastic and Hubbard was great and then to. It on Sunday have to say he's pretty impressive. by the way Valencia. cates I'm not up. But consol awareness goal. Usually go and see this highlight if you haven't seen it, but I'm also wondering. Is that the kind of goal that we see when? Everybody's still not quite with it. Because just come back. You know you run into somebody you fall over. You still have the ball and stuff off people. Maybe there's. Obviously who's been missing for them? So. How do we see this going forward because I think? Yeah, you can look at it and be clever and look at the running and be like well. Barcelona have tougher run-in so therefore and Ramadan has a the edge in the head to head, but. I don't i. I'm sure that neither of these teams I will bet you steak lunch that neither of these teams are going to run the table between now the the season I think both GonNa drop points, and he's going to be twinned terms. Yes, till agree with you. I think losing young issues. Breath alona because that means the Iraqi teach should not play football anymore. Wished, he play which she beyond me. Which Ricky play? Author it was going to starve to death. Ray was going to start and severe, maybe naively because it's been very young, and he hasn't played for the first team by three, he was GonNa Start and I was disappointed, but. You rising that would draw points I still think that. Rummaging of momentum and other I worry before for Barcelona to. Yeah! It's an interesting. One is fascinating. Right Enough Lito. Let's move on to the Crash Bang Wallop Ohio Premier League. Jewels? Let's talk to champion of the World Frank La Leboeuf. About what happened, Sunday, night, Merseyside Derby Everton and this was the game where if city had dropped points to arsenal. Than, they could've been crowned champions and we all got so excited. Oh what about the fans gathering outside Blah Blah, BLAH Maybe because of that it was. Maybe there was a bit of a psychological. Let down there when they were going to win the title even with Victory so in the end. We saw Liverpool with a lot of style possession your most of the game and we saw Everton creating probably the better chances at the end yet. You summed it up. I mean I. I was then just before before we talk about the game. The atmosphere was very strange. There was a lot of police everywhere. Helicopters in this guy put spend on horses policemen all around Goodison Pock and There must have been between fifteen hundred cops and they were literally. Ten evidence finds just waiting by the gay to see the the coach. She's coming in and the players. They have players community with their own cars. The Liverpool. Players had to change as you saw. In Worcester game on television, they had to change in those. How'd you call them in cabin? Coming while a really look like it really look like a pre-season friendly somewhere where you raise money for charity and you play their you know to. Favour for friend Oh yeah okay. Game and it was it was surreal, and then after that. Yeah, you're right. There was just no rhythm. I thought Liverpool for the first half hour. Press. Quail and Everton struggled to get out of their own hobbs, but there was not cutting edge from Liverpool. Holly Chances That told me how to shot over the bar. The second half was even poorer until as you said the ten minutes where we charlie son. he deployed him created the chance that went on. He deposed abuse Davis. He deposed, and then which is should have crossed the border for your be instead of how to do really good shot Alison Safe Berg. disappointed. It's maybe it's not surprising. Do we read anything into this? Either I mean it's only the third time in the last thirty games at Liverpool failed to win. Is there anything to read into this? Performance in the decision to to not start Salah suggested on the bench to hold Gambro Dome as well. Yeah I mean one of them for me as you as you say how much I love him, and how how much I think he's so important to that team that Rebecca How important the to fullback sign, and maybe traffic center Arnold was like clubs after the game who didn't have a good game and was not really maybe the absence of Robertson. So. How'd how'd even more impact on trend Alex and no, because James? Miller, who's going to cross the border law? Doodoo, CHICAGO, Knowles and Of course came off. On anywhere for Joe Gomez, so maybe maybe all of that together explains why Liverpool Webby off. Or I like to give credit to kyle on. Some because they were is in panic when the pressure and should have only really now frank so again. Looking at the table, situation I'm going to briefly summarized this. Manchester City played Monday night against Burnley. some of you by the time you listen to this, the game will already have taken place. If, Manchester City failed to win than Liverpool can win the title on Wednesday Against Crystal Palace with a victory. If Manchester City. Win Liverpool need to beat palace and hope that Manchester. Shady dropped points on Thursday against Charleston. So, I'M GONNA. Go out and limb here since I. Don't think anybody believes that will not. I'd ask you this frank. Does. It really matter if it takes Liverpool a little more time to win the title I mean this season stands on its own, or does it feel like it's almost two seasons? There's like. Almost like in South America the the UP. To. Suda? Of manage situation and I mean it's not going to nobody's GonNa remember the. He's not going to impact this. Take anything away from the absurdly good season that Liverpool of hiding from the thirtieth title, right. I, I I if everybody Yeah, that's a long question. I think the question Saudi full the defendant make. Thousand. And you the answer. It doesn't really matter and. It's very very sad for Liverpool fans and and the club to. Fight. celebrates sooner or sooner or later a title with. We know finding the crowd with a season as you said God. Cutting, in half and and With the, in fact, very strange end of the season, but it doesn't reminder we we see since the beginning of the Premier League, the result of the Premier League. Teams I'm already that the pace of the game. He's very slow. People try to find their their their face and the and the physical rhythm. And strength so he called to judge the playoffs. We shouldn't. We have to wait like three or four days before we can do so and political. Push the same on top of. They know they're going to be champion I mean you can summarize the the everything and say well. This happened that up, and he's GONNA delayed without sooner or later leave who's going to be the champion, and and these and there is I. Think in anybody's rain. In the premier league players a Dasa about the fight going to be the champion do the fight. He's not devices about who's GonNa be chimpanzee next season, who's going to go down but we all know that never pool soon is going to be the the new champion and mentioned. He's GonNA end up second. That's for sure so far. The player is to be even motivated. They WANNA, be they don't. Don't want to get injured. They they want to restock slowly, but surely because this fall appeared that nobody never you. You have because all you have because you all. You are injured, but you don't have that kind of time, so it's a half of the for the for any for years to to cope with the situation, so the better and the I think what must do is to go slowly, but again surely. Franchi. Do you think that there's still of records that they can beat the record of points of asleep? They still reachable. They can continue. The home unbeaten. Run that kind of stuff. Do you think that could be an incentive? To go with what you've just said that over. Of course they've already wanted. Even if mathematically it's not done yet, but he can still focused on on beating all records and do as well as they can. For those records, using does very second jewelry. Yes I. Think he's sick in the Renou. Because depending make I think. He would have been a goal for them. if. They could carry on and finish the season in in in one way, but but because of defending the stop of of the of the Premier League for for a couple of months. It doesn't really matter now. I think the the the goals change is just to finish well and and. They want to be the record of being champion, the sooner or the sooners, but not. The now because of that. I think. We we we don't think about that anymore. We just know that was gonna be the champion and. We! Don't really came to be. The record of points because that's not. What is we all only happy that the primarily is back? There restarted it and I. Think about the Pro League one in French, where we're not going to see the end of the season that could pretty stupid seeing the older European ship which restarting, but we'll only peaches the back, and then being finished and to name a champion at the end of the season. Franco, a more technical question So much has been said about Liverpool's front three of of Sala for me and and Montana and the fact that. For me. No! Easy really a center forward as we understand it, he's. He played attacking midfielder early in his career. He doesn't play on the shoulder of the of the last defender. He is he dropped Steve? His movement is different. For a lot of the Games. Actually Salah moves into the middle. We'll drop over to two hundred Salah aside. From the perspective of the center of the fender or from a coach, if you're. If you're defending that situation what goes through your mind. What are the different approaches I mean? Do you just? Say Okay. We'll just hold my position zone only. Do you have to decide when to go with for me? Know when to let somebody else pick them up. How does that work? Long. Have before the game well when I was being against. Leave up when you add a when playing. Yes, you know that the pace of the guy. He's incredible, so you have to come up with so we I used to play like a real sweeper, and and puts a album ferrier in mocking because he was five as well so you try to cope with the situation. You know I think he's A. Discussion that you have to have with the with the U. Midfield, partner and and see like within twice over. You might do or the show the okay when I scream to you know you have to to turn and and take care of him, because if you full load those kind of prayer. Face for money or Saleh to go in in it, and that's the main problem that you have to Kim. The zone in order to keep the position to cover and anticipate any bullying death beyond your your back, and and and if you make a street mocking a player, you going to be cope of annual boxing, because some all the player's GonNa go did and that's that's the main problem. He's very smart. The two other suburbs Monday work together. So good together. Because the which you all over the place, and you don't know where you stand and went. You have to do so. That's a discussion and the work that you have to to have before during the week. Making sure that you can cope with the even you never caught with this situation. You react to the situation because it's never the same, and you can't cannot think about everything, so that's that's can be very confusing, but it's. Is Very important that discussion between the players are no other otherwise. You're going to be in trouble. I I'm just wondering just in light of that. Nobody really man marks anymore. But the nineteen eighties, and right up until I, think really the early in the mid nineties. Perhaps you would see teams man-marking, and then there would be a sweeper dropping off, yeah. I'm just wondering. I've put to several coaches. WHO said well? You could do it, but nobody knows how to man mark because defenders aren't trained to man mark any more. I'm just wondering against Liverpool whether that might. I mean you. Going forward, but whether that might be if you had the right players for that might be a solution so in other words you have your three defenders. Pick up the front three individually. And then you have, and you have a spare man, so I know. Do Create a whole bunch of one on one, but you have somebody for the recovery. And for me no drops off. It's not that big a deal because somebody goes with him I. Know Bay fooled by my marking manner, money and siler. What happens when? An. You need your wingers to my Magden as well. Yeah she's. Playing. Everyone. Yeah you just don't have prevented. The gathered I e could be a solution, but again everybody has to Myanmar, except the sweeper to come by Satan cover, but we, we share on certain points and you when body was saying for example, and they wear my mum king, everybody Players opens wherein ready to cope with that situation. Now they exactly you know what they're gonNa do and the the wingback gonNA come juice, and and and go inside the speed that you that the others are created The the main problem is when you see that we saw, and I saw when he was a managing. Say That you are the ride bikes on the league finishing left-wing because he was following player, so he's a complete mess when you lose the ball. Because you don't know where you are and also because. Players are. Ready to really defendant they don't know to defend property. We think about getting the position of the ball. being able to make a good five. We don't think about defending when you see my fellow in Real Madrid. They have the chance to somebody at also violent Marie thing about defending to cover a space beyond him, because otherwise it would be a real nightmare for for Real Madrid defense if they did not have those kind of players, so you really have to compete and make the team. According to what you WanNa, do and blow me when you play against the F. Word you I'm not choice to play in zone to really talk to each other and making sure everybody is is ready to to compensate and and and and maximally somebody Japanese on. From just just to come back on on Tamino. was there player when you were playing? Who played came and you? You just hated playing against demon every time you were playing against. Maybe, it was like a nostril. Manipulate on you. There are other other anyone using our no. You because you knew it would be difficult because of his movement because of space, or whoever was there one like that? I think I tried to think about in the premier league I know. Joker was a what we call a nine and a half in five and and that's a new name. I think he was even the nine and a half, even if he was more ten, but scored, many goals were being on whatsapp front But let's say a Q. L. at least could could play like that. Beckham could play like that as well and play as a striker or the number ten in being the top scorer, but also. Leading the the game Yeah, you have. A. Very small players, and that's very a small to to to higher places like that because they really put a mass between the lines. Of the opening, that's the that's the main problem. In the main concern of of the backline were when defending against those players, because they always put themselves between the lines, and that's crew, and and not fearful the defenders, but that's what I to be done if you want to put the mess inside the different. Frank Final question for me about the significance of this thirtieth title. TITLE AFTER THIRTY YEARS for Liverpool when it comes, I mean for people of your generation and. I'm much closer to your age, Gills. We grew up with a legend, especially, not growing up in England. We grew up with the legend of Liverpool. Winning the European cops dominating, it seemed like an unstoppable machine felt like. Felt like it was going to go on forever really. And then it didn't. Can you just tell me as somebody who grew up on? You know in a different country. Whether this title feels a little bit like. Liverpool going back to their rightful place, and can lead to more. War Or if it feels very very different from from the titles that they want in the nineteen eighty S. Everybody knows that my hockey's thumper bridge and Chelsea but I have to admit that. when I was young and when I. was following sentence. they were games in against Liverpool anywhere pre- pretty much. Crew Games for Liverpool and I talked to giving on the bud both those golden, the the fantastic serve backlog. Who Heals Santa Chan at the time and so am I remember my brother going to to England and and bringing me back a short of Liverpool. We Love Liverpool in France I think it's a club that we really A fund and and we cleared that the they won the title I. Remember The the Sleep of. Of a Gerard Against Chelsea and and and get the of because of that and I felt so sorry for the fans for Gerald then for the club. Because it's it was time for them, it was the time for them to to end it again. Because it's fantastic. Calm and and you it represents the football in England in the seventies eighties, and then nothing happens to them and and told it's nice to see. the emergence of some players, and the and the and. And seeing a club. Reborn or let's say from from from from home. Foul Way you know and I'm not after say again, my club and one day we're GONNA. Win The fight so again, but he's April Liverpool. Your and you have to accept the fact that they are the best right now and. Everybody and I say in France and juice gets confirmed. I think everybody is happy to see another title for up. We're like we were happy for Arsenal in nineties, s or in during the medium when they want because many French were there, but it was also linger, but these was nice to see a defensive like mentioning Wisconsin A- and Chelsea with. Withdrawn by let's say and so we follow football. We love football. We're not fans got so we see the the best of it and the best of east wasn't even pull this season, so was onto them. Frankly Bud. Thank you so much. It's a report. You guys, are you? Even? Tell you you tell you look. Back. Just before we go into into the quick hits one thing on your vented quickly really want. Depending than I so by the time you might listen to the Paul damalf ready. Obviously now a good time right now for the club Saturday big big meeting between Christina sorry. When the other longshots we've which was reported. Probably for saying I want to play as a central striker anymore kind of stuff. Yeah and also the idea that which rather channels right and I've said it before he should not be playing at central striker. But also the idea of WHO's in charge of this team and I would also put this a little bit further if it's a meeting between siree and Cristiano. Unless there's unless they decide to meet before live audience. This was either this by one side of it I come up. That's a good pr right. You've a Saint Paul looked at the charter. There's no problems between them. Remember crisanto sisters saying like putting on Instagram. Post when she saw my love or my treasure wherever she called him, you can't do everything by yourself and this, and and so that's a good good pr from. UVA Yeah so you think who puts out shortly. Yeah, but do they have somebody there, did they? Did he go to Saudi and say like Hey Marty to what did you talk about? Greece, John Because all. Joys we know right when we have these automatic compensating from a media perspective, right? Usually it's one side i. mean unless there's somebody else present. Who decided to put this out? which is also possible although. You've as communications department. They're generally. Not, leaky at all like they don't ever. They don't plan or he's like. They're very removed from from from other PR departments for better and for worse. We can discuss whether that's good or bad, but. I mean this is what I find interesting. Is this Saturday going back and talking to his assistance, and it feeds out into the media or is this? CRISTIANOS machine putting it out there. I don't know it'll be interesting to see what happens. What happens tonight on the surface? It's a normal thing. A senior player is an open conversation with his manager. Equally if I were Saturday? I would say okay fine. I DIDN'T WANNA. Play Center forward either, but you tell me until our friend. Gupta is old enough to sprint fit enough to to spring to the halfway line without getting winded. I'm getting until he gets off his phone. Slim enough, but then no, because those stripes. Yeah so I I. Don't know we'll get a very good indication tonight one day night. And it'll be too late for this podcast to see what. I don't have a problem with people talking to each other I mean. BETTER THAN Not Talking to each other enough. contractually obliged to talk about Cristiano Felicio name on before the quick hits we got out of the way. Let's move on. Let's talk instead about. Some quick hits! Let let me do that again, so you can do that. Let's go. I know we're contractually obliged to talk about Jano messy and or Neymar before the quick hits, but enough of that let's go for some quick hits. Let's go up. Arsenal lose again as Brighton come from behind, but Talking about mopeds on Leno, incident for Awhile and also your boy doozy living up to every stereotype about wild man with wild hair. I mean why game really on your side to the afternoon. says Greg by, and then as you said, it's Bryson coming back. Go on setpiece which. Was Fuming about because they work on your training, and then Nimmo, payroll Deanne Mugabe who? In the first half got involved in an incident with with Leno goes for the ball. Gets injured 's MOPEY. said he's not my I went for the board I didn't want to didn't do anything purposes I want to injure the Guy Leno clearly thinking that Mo- pay. There's something wrong because you've got the. Game than words between more Pan Doozy to the whole second high that your shows. What I understand about this and you say. mobias is wrong to to run into didn't want to injure him. His size but I! Got Hurt. The way he landed equally pulls out and he doesn't know Nolan's fine. He doesn't get hurt. When I don't understand is every keeper in the world. You always see them. Come out in that situation with their up and the reason you do that is to protect yourself. Did Not occur. Leno that that might be a good idea to do or maybe thought that moped would would stop. We would not go for the ball of dough. Challenge I don't know. Maybe he thought. This is an easy one. He's not gonNA come short. He's not gonNA come, and then he's today, and maybe actually that. Made when he landed as you said he was a bail. Dodgy lending, and then that's when the injury happened obviously a blow as well because looks like a bad one so. Martinez now is Guy Martinez of the guy so I said it twice. He's GonNa. Go to a little ranch. Your Doors Hal. Me Okay listen. I mispronounced names all the time I'm I. Mispronounced who? Hakim yes. The ashes name. For a long time, but Was a manager in the primarily for many years named Roberto Martinez Martinez is a very common name. Most of this free country goes on holiday to Spain. When there are many people name Martinez Yeah. It was even classic. Two live crew song from the nineteen eighties entitled Bleep Martinez Naturally So. How do these people? Why do they say? Martinez, what is the problem? I mean you. Martinez is your is my maciel, because I don't know how many times I've said to people marcial with an S. Marshal, not my with a show with all due respect. If you put Martinez in the world, yes. Hold them ourselves and the world is Anthony Scissors on the other hand. There's millions of people I just blows my mind. But what about when doozy's reaction at the I mean? I know people talking teams about somebody has to be the enforcer. I. I, kind of wish, it wasn't this guy because I kind of feel, he has a bull's eye on his back when he's on the page in terms of picking up cards, and whatever yeah, I mean he's GonNa live in edgy of willingness desire I think he also wants to be a leading. The team will do is still very young, and doesn't have much experience. And I and I like that. But I think he needs to more mature needs to in those in those games, all those moments where frustration is high I mean Mo-. Pages called the winner. Pretty Merge. He gives it back as well to get doozy and doozy. Solve trash-talking during the. Right. Does. Someplace do that and then you lose a ban, so grabs him by the throat, and then he falls on the floor and that kind of stuff, so can we can. We definitively say that? Not all French players in the primary are part of some universal brotherhood where they all like. We're all friends away from the camera. No, but you know we all ought to be clearly, but you know sometimes even in your family. There's a bit of tension interview some to one God this weekend. sixpoints biped behind far behind the twelve rounds to go, and they make three-horse race now contest certainly believes they still in the title race. Yeah and I wouldn't have. Thought so until I saw this performance, which was actually really really good i. mean they could have scored four or five goals Lukaku scored a brilliant one Eriksson look sharp again. Lukaku actually then took a knee I did Nicholas in Kula who scored for? At the weekend? The game it was kind of old. You'll injure thing where they gave up a stupid goal to to to call and. Donna Vegeta- makes them say, and it was slightly jittery, but it was commanding. Physically for a lot of the game. Having. Having seen you the play and how? They have right now. We have no idea and then you just realizing twelve rounds to go. It's a third of a season. That is a lot fun. Yeah, so yeah, why not? Maybe it's not. It's obviously not only in their control, and they don't have the head to head against you. which which penalizes them, but. They can make it whether they will make it I don't know, but I'm not writing them off interesting, yeah! Boy! Started on the bench Friday night Spurs, but came on and won a penalty. Obvious question jewels Kenny play with Bruno Fernandez, and if so, how do you line up here team? Yes, of course I think they can pray together. Play together. You know in in a friendly before the restarted the played half an hour together on on Friday night, which is. Why like they're very complimentary? The really weird because poke by likes to still be deep and have those long. Diagnose intelligent place. Criticized for is intelligence. WHOA, that's crazy. You I mean he's a very very clever player. And that means Brunner can play a higher up on the page. There's enough to drop his deeper to get the bore and can be much closer to Moscow you play with them accommodating. I think and you could even if we know all like sometimes paying three of the by you can play three to four example and have to wing bikes and Mukta Minneapolis by Bruno in midfield and then mass Russian, for example something like that and I think they've got of options now I was a bit disappointed. Though I completely understand I didn't start on Friday. But. I knew that he would come on and and make a difference on this. That's exactly why did and I'm I'm really happy for him. I knew he was very happy to, and not he's just cannot wait to start and really human Bruno. Get on well and I think they want to play together as soon as soon as possible. Chessy come from behind to beat Aston Villa on Sunday thanks to go from my boys. You who you boy, police, each cop, any concerns for Franklin PA. How is Polish my boy, but anyway? I it's A. Very Broad Church of players. I like an. American. WHO's very handsome. Any concerns I thought they really battered Aston Villa they went a goal down through defensive error, not not ideal. Obviously I think. Maybe could've have done better, you know he's. He's there and he's your goalkeeper right now. But I thought what impressed me was was how they look Sharp Mason Mount? Hitting the ground running. He. He's obviously weighing up. I think the city game. Yet which is why he started some of the players that he did, but yes so far so far so good. Ruben lifts his cheek coming back after with thirteen month off big coming out playing him out wide in the in that role I'm wondering if he's plot. Leftist cheek such an. It's an unusual mix, right? His body type skills. I mean he's not going to necessarily be the the quickest winger. Although I think over over space, he can run. I wonder if there's something artsy again. It's Kinda like mismatch type. Player why because he's twenty seven games for sure and if you put them against a small nippy attacking fullback. He can. He can really do some dad definitely in that role. either. Madrid had to hof impossible. Pray to the God of the a are to get the three points because Viadana. Chose this normal service resuming after the brilliant five gets I. Mean we love we love as we say in last poets that focused. We said you don't pay us every week and we knew died. They certainly didn't change from the. Plague. Eleven men behind the ball and so then. We Simoni, as not become resilient seventeen either you know so it was harder. The the first half was was was decent quad actually and could have scored second-half struggled. I think physically and Vittorio kind of saved them, but it is good for them. The level severe nine third. They've got momentum going. It'd be interesting interesting to see. What staying in Spain God bus were held by severe. Neil knit on Friday, but the good news is that low. macy's reportedly close to agreeing to a new two year deal or those the usual one one with an option to leave pretty much whenever he wants still a good if I. Had to stay. Yeah I mean this is only news because it's Leonardo Messy. We knew when. It would be shocking if he said No. I'm leaving joining Wong's. You Evergreen I, mean he? Could be signing day being your boys like how did he? Tries I. He could be signing daily contracts if you wanted to. One thing and we haven't seen the financial details I'm curious to see if he if he took a pay cut or maybe restructured his contract a little bit to have. Maybe, have bonuses in there rather than guaranteed money just to give Barcelona a bit more breathing room because he really is, you know single handedly a huge chunk of their wage bill which is. Fair enough because he's a huge chunk other team. But I watch this space. I'm curious to see how they how they and they they work this one out. By Munich already. German champion, so Hansie Flick is out to beat records. Their three one win over. Freiburg takes them to ninety six goals on the season. It's to fewer than in the treble winning year and five few words in the all time record nineteen. Seventy one, seventy two. I think it was just have Wolfsburg on the final day. Are they going to do? Are they? GonNa, try to it. Say Like y'all. Let's go and crush wohlfart. By the way still have to play for because you know they're. They're competing for Europe right. Yeah, I mean. Yeah. You might play like four one five. Som something crazy like that. What if they say? Hey, volts, Berg. Why don't we just score five goals? Five eighty tap ends each, and then we'll start the game in the first half with five five. We'll start to game properly in the second half. So. We can beat the record by the way the seventy one seventy two season. A you know they they won't. Of course they beep Domini eleven one which I, think is still one of the highest. By an buying wins in in history. They might do one hundred and one would be phenomenal. It will be obviously as you said. PEP Guada- team. It would it would show again. How good they are far too good. Finally Dusty, those the worst called. To more, the weekends is on thirty three now, which is the highest? A. Foreign Players scored Bundesliga beating Obama Young East three behind. Deter Moore and get murder. With, thirty six, and then Miller with forty was the highest ever so if he's 'cause. Seven in that game you'll equal cared molar. Beats the record of one. You just never know stuff like that. Right still in Germany, Buddha dolman clinched second place by winning aware lives, which was a really good game by the way and really really good win Gab once again, then, anyways to the leads, and it took a late goal from hailing Horan's and by Germany Raina by the way who started arena. Going very very well. I go back to the consistency. Fact is crazy. By the way, this game mattered because you had a chance to A. Second place in question, they have a good goal, difference and everything. Dortmund assault were exceptional in the first half. And in the second half again, they just Kinda wilt. I'm loss submerged over erling. Haaland averaging even after coming to the Bundesliga. Averaging a goal every I don't know how many minutes but it certainly less than ninety. Because he has thirteen and fourteen, and he has a whole bunch of substitute. Appearances, you know this leaves you wondering what might have been? They spent a ton of money in the summer. They added a ton of players that were very close to. By Munich last year. I'd then you kinda end with this sort of last minute? Pull something out of the hat. Is a big call to make that which the manager. And whether whether you think he's the guy to build on this next season. I think big make also with some of the players. Because it's great to have depths, we only play eleven guys at a time and some of these veterans will make a lot of money thinking Mario Good Sir I'm. going. The both. One, I've contracted the one on loan going back to Madrid, but you're right. They have something and he's about what you do with it. Either you improve, or you made the wrong code, and then you can go. Pasha from people love Save Zork is one of the best. In the business. This is a big big summer through him big time. Wolves are up to joint fifth in the Premier League right alongside Manchester United after winning. West time jewels Dhammachari only played the last half hour and was devastating. How good are they going to be when he starts and? Give me your percentage chance that they'll be the champions. League next year you, I'm I'm really starting to sing. Mature way is is a perfect impact Playa dot in some games. Don't start him. Don't start him. Play. Play like you do with a with A. Strong midfield and just visual on and Franz and then for the last half hour. Maybe half time you bring him on and I think that could have such a big impact on on your position on defenses on the way Adama would just bring a lot of energy towards as well into that team. I just think that works so well. Okay with West, Ham and David Moisture's this like okay, but but still it works. It works so well and. I think they're going to have such a good run for for the temperatures and weather fifth-place can can do for you percent. Chance I. Fifty whereby. To finish finish fifth, no no to qualify for the Champions League. Through. It's difficult. Up The percentage chances. are going to ban Manchester City. Right and then come on. Come on, you got your note. Fifty states fifty fifty. City at band. They're definitely going. Yeah, and you know what Chinua as well. The fact that your colleague is postponed to August is huge benefit for them, because instead of having to play in the European League on Thursday and then three days. Okay now there's a law from games because I think he's much better. I I'M NOT GONNA go that high, but they're certainly very well. All I'm going to give him twenty percent okay. Atlanta where the left off the stymies for four one hammering of swallow to goes by. Duval Potter, as Democrats seem so easy and almost like they'd never stopped. I shall swallow our. Team very open football, and so it becomes a question of. The perfect opponent to go back. Yeah, I've question of whose crime is bigger and then look you know, and it's it's Atlanta. But. Still, really really really impressing. They're not into this whole. Let's pace ourselves thing. They, just go go full throttle. All the way weld onto them custody game. Show next game against lots, Yo, which is absolutely massive. Betting and he spoke to. This past weekend talked about corruption. Will Cups and all that good stuff? What did he say? That was a good interview? Clearly. He's already lobbying and try to place himself. He wants to go to fifth pro. Was I think he's still eyeing up Prisoner fi fi. That's what you said in the interview. We said he says something that could interest me. You need to fight for that kind of stuff university challenge for. Teeny he he you know. He has beef against them of course against all of them if he can come back and go back to the top, and you know how group of politician is. On the wall copy said listen. There was that big learn one day lilies, Piracy Sarkozy and the Qataris and he said he really thought it was just him, and Sarkozy was going to see Sarkozy to let him know who he was going to vote for for the twenty to walk. Have One I. Don't think you need to go, and you can pick up the phone Corsa cozy and said okay. I'm voting for Kettani. Because I think you know, he's BS, but I think that the based country plays football. We need to give football to. Everybody loves blah. So? He said he didn't know the Qataris with there said, but if there was corruption, which I believe is the first the first, if in terms of corruption for vote for twenty twenty two. That he really put a-, said if there was corruption, then Qatar should be stripped off. The organization is interesting because he's basically saying the opposite of what's up Lotter said watcher speaking week ago came out, and he said that basically Pechiney went and Sarkozy said he had deal need to to back Russia, I think it was backyard states. I mean you went through it and Sarkozy came out inside. No, no, please back, Qatar. which by the either way is is illegal and dubious but. So putting you spacey saying this. Yes, before for a long time, he said you know what you just. Pechiney ties himself into knots. Yeah, yeah, because if that's the case if you decided all by yourself to vote for Qatar. Then tell us why. But he says he says you wanted to the the workup to two countries that never had it before for the been a football in in that part of the world or of that which you can hear it, but I mean come on. That's not going to help them. To? Talk. Is it will you will? You have any reason to protect Sarkozy. Like if you come out and he said looks cozy. told me please do it. Do it for the country. Yada Yada Yada I think. He's not gonNA get in trouble. Right circles. He's doing his job. Maybe maybe not I think there's there's always a case for not not not messing up with former presidents and people who have power in any country, and finally the new Buddhist got TV's announced today, Bob and be the first to gauge the effect of the pandemic and according to numerous reports. It would be lower than the last TV deal. Is this a sign of things to come? Do you think? A lot of people are so negative. We've talked about this before. The devastating effects so on. Significant that it's going to be lower than last TV we're totally marginally lower. But I think it's also worth noting that the last TV deal represented an enormous increase over the one before. And the same that the print values apparently TV deal domestically went down when you've got fewer people competing for it then obviously, the balance of power shifts the other way that said I think it will be an issue TV companies they sell subscriptions, and they get money from advertisers and sponsors, and if the reason global recession, it's harder. To do both so in that sense, it could be signed things to combat. I would take this with a grain of salt doesn't mean the Bundesliga all of a sudden is weaker. People aren't watching I think most of it has to do with what happened last time around in the enormous increase, which you know, which is never going to be matched, and probably was realistic, though so that when the guys coming to ESPN, plus by the way in this new digital. This is true we're doing we're doing. This was a domestic deal, but we're of course. He. Gives you been living under a rock next year ESPN plus in the United States will have the Bundesliga as well as the AFC show and all the other football related properties MLS yea. Of, stuff euros. Twenty twenty, twenty, twenty, one all of that be for us. So. They're all right now for that Let's call it a day I. Really Miss The alphabet eleven, but. They're all on Youtube. You can go back and relive the whole post series of twenty six. That's a great way to spend an hour hour half. Life and producer Freddie made a suggestion. Actually the maybe some enterprising person should make a bunch of fee for teams out of them. Should relation. Yes, we could crown the greatest letter in the would love that will be. All right the next time. Bye Bye!

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Gunners Bounce Back

"Great news. There's a quick way. You can save money. Switch to Geico. Geico could help you get great coverage at a great price. And it only takes fifteen minutes to see if you could save fifteen percent or more on car insurance. Go to Geico dot com today and see how much you could save. Hello, everyone that happy new year. Not in the first show of twenty thousand nine hundred I'm agent healing. We are pushing through that pain berry Italian night to kill you professionalism. The highest was in bed before nine bed before midnight. But you that stemmed out now code it quoted the twelve I made it my norm on I know the Washington bed before midnight. Yes, he's with us. The proof theory is shining. Bright, six o'clock in the morning does the. Well fans of Spurs at are so happy earlier this new year. I guess it was the hangover cure for both of them was the games against Cardiff and against full of the free goal victories. The each of them. Let's talk a little Astle Craig four one victors of no more. No, more New Year's Eve quickies, right? All right. Oh stream is no Papa snow where you want to stop this. This was a game. I felt it was it was kind of a subdued win for a full one. When it was a game could could've gone another way at Fulham taking opportunities. Yeah. But I I suppose films problem is taking paternity charities because they know that you know, defensively they've been the worst team in the Premier League last season as a huge problem for Ron Carey one may go and spend some money in January. But it was there for us not to go and home in particular to get the victory particularly of of the back of the negative headlines. They had and this mashing the Liverpool. They're wicked black. The not great mental part. A couple of from guys out front particularly bomb young. And so I've said season is find a the judge camera. The moment I think he's trying under the copper is trying to lend them, but the clubs trial squad and try and push on a direction for for for less transfer window coming up, but more importantly, they transfer window in the summer, if you if you show the school lane with those seen again. This is not the story of the game. I mean, the the should've lost four or five hours. No he did. But no surprise, right? No awesome. Is a team that going forward create chances the free floor and these school goal but from middle to buy the they are awful and is doing a good job. He's got him. Settled down bought. He's going to have to change awful lot. Particularly the buy in the middle of the park. Let's talk to the season ticket holder Paolo. What what did you make the win? They needed these badly. Didn't they? Yeah. I think well the guys have been saying is exactly right. I mean, nobody's under any illusions that asked on the team is playing puffy. In fact, one was under any lesions awesome teams playing even during that long winning run that they went on. But I think what is sort of very striking about this team is the even with not playing perfectly. You have go out by me. And you have like that you have go Aaron Ramsey. You can come off the bench at least for the rest of this season. And the so many goals in the team. And of course, this was a rare case starting I am restarting by me hanging like I said together up front, and even when it's not perfect, even when the team clearly still leads more work, and when I think is areas of the page new dressing in the transfer market. Just the fact that having to religious Mogole scores upfront it together. It's it's exciting. And it's it's fun for the fans as well to get to see that. And they were both on the scoresheet today. Why doesn't he play those two more often Stevie hostile fans asked that question? Well, I think to d- because of the position and film he thought he could get away with it. And he did get away with it for me the middle of the can't defend properly. And that's why teams get out the bike for. But when you play those two front and you play open, and you get them the ball. Then they'll do what they did today at school goals. But unfortunately, there's two shades to the game. It is surprising though. Isn't it? Through strike to operate. So well to give it they can't do it against big team. Well L in this season about me Young's plano a little bit. And that's where you may have played their against Liverpool away may of Elvis this eighty to go a different way. But it Stevie said, I don't think it was raucous today. Both we're going to play bearing in mind high opened the game was going to be on arsenal. What home, but he has to find is going to have to find the balance you're going to have to find the personnel is going to have to find the balance in the team. And that's why you go to your Cup them to say when you look at the scored the Osthoff at this moment in time to go into Canada run needed L in this season. Was was extremely good Mon Mon from from Niamey because it's not the stronger squad. Not the strongest defense the goalkeeper a concern. As Wheeler has to be said, you do some great things easier. Elon should've decision making. And I think he makes a little hostile funds nervous, but going for what they're that Nick site inside to watch when you look at the gap between the quality, real quality. It's op. Rented the primarily, and we'll ask will have to bridge. So as well, it is the first of January that means plays with six months left on country. Three negotiating as of today. Guess what? Aaron Ramsey is being linked with a move to cheer in your vintage you've ram rage. One of the headlines in the British papers. You've interested in thirty one million pound offer to Ramsey Paolo. What did you make of it would he fit in jury? What even get in the team? Do you think? Whether we get in the starting eleven is a question. I mean, you could look at the midfield. They normally using the moment, which is a three with Maryland ph in the middle and normally one of two out of between eighty and Ben tanker and Kandara running alongside of and I think you could definitely see Ramsey taking one of those jobs again alongside piano. She's a box to box role. We know the likes to get four lines. You know, you can make those runs I think it definitely fits as a e Ventas movement. They've made a good sort of recent history of picking up these plans on we call them. Free transit close enough free. You still spend low on the signing bonus on the agents fees cheaper than you'd be getting these players if you had to spend transit feel and then guys like Andre Taylor guys like deer Amre Chan, I think he fits that mold, and I think the price you'd get him full for twenty eight year old play who still plenty to offer. It's it's kind of a why not situation for me. So the way you ventures are being operating in recent seasons Palo highlighted some of the place they've gone via free transfers. Blues maturity on Israel. I mean, this can you play for, you know, twenty million or whatever it was which is chicken feed into these look. If you go club event is going to be vying for almost every trophy, you might become an off the bench. No of what you probably will become an off the bench yellow. It's a squad game and gives would give allegria another say legs and their one they experienced club and international level one that can get your quarter golden and getting this clipped off I could solve spot for less guy. I mean really have going to solve spot for anybody unfair police him if he gets a free transfer fogies Bank account, the big club anybody that's played professional sport has a born the skin, right? And is able to come back and have the career he's hard and do well from. So I set my godson because it not only the physical tell you the game as the mental after and when he had not compound frat for actually stole the very fact he appeared on again was amazing Tabah chance to go to Europe spending. Biggest clubs until I remember the last Welsh international made a big move to eventers. Yes. Russia wasn't it where it was a foreign country. Didn't go to what was he surprised? Foreign country took off the Welsh Aycot. If were the opponents for Spurs Stevie Cardiff's tactic of keeping tone, thirty minutes. I don't know where to go wish pose, you know, if you look at the league the right out there. Yeah. But if I think of spas to talk three I think in liberal Liverpool steps on the field. I think I would only want to when I think of city, I think the same thing. Yes. The father. A bad spell. But still I'm thinking every time you step on the field. Let's teams going one was spas. I don't know what to expect one of the things that are going to get beat by wolves. So spoils. Yes, there are there. I don't trust them even against God. If you had doubts. Yeah. I mean. No, no, guaranteed because the throne the thrown the wobbly and last week showing next two or three games. Yeah. Had we find well throw another one feel nowhere. No fairness only had one blip against rules. Yeah. June. What like it's not just lost the last four. Catch me point is every single team spas, get on a run and do something. Whether it's opinion league of the Charlene's league or whatever. And all of a sudden, we go while this team's ready, and then going through a wills result here. So at least don't trust them tain Ericsson and saw in all fairness. I mean, the plane great I thought socal playing great. I fall. I thought you could tell by new WalMart's face for lose at worst the game. I think was going to make a lot more difficult for them today. That's their bread. And that's why they're not on the bottom for the moment. And most people would be is because the limited. They generally do the basics rail. They were horrible today. And there were completely exposed by balls. No lesson taught them of Johnston, another run of results together again and take away up those negative scores people. They're gonna miss. When he's gone yet. Miss him. He's been great. He's he's been. He's been unbelievable. Eight goals in eight games. Not amongst the Premier League top scorers at the moment. But Abam young and Kane both on target today. Sal hazard grabbing appetite for. The league runs on on Wednesday enthused. The Chelsea at home to Southampton. Manchester ninety facing a trip James his take on the United coast. The big one on Thursday with man city and Liverpool. Let's talk a little pole pug by Craig I know you'd like to jump into this big time. This is his difference. Under Ali gonna so shot won't need achieve Josie Email already mole goals under the baby face this acid that he had under the special one. So what do you make of it? We look at a different plan. Not really we're looking at Hoppy up player 'cause he's he's nemesis has gone. Lou. Everybody's jumping in this Paul thing at the moment and Mayan aided. I I understand I do understand because it was so bad. It was so negative that United for quite a while the NFL would have been up, but I keep going back to my point. This is talk to me again in six weeks or or three months of this because they've just played count the Huddersfield and the play the ball. Two two of the worst teams in the Premier League as taught improved the again with Carter her struggling, much finances and born her probably the one of the least form teams in primarily with engineers. I mean in the last eleven games, including one against United the lost name. They've lost name straight games. Have only won twice against the teams. So. Did I expect poor pauper two B billion teams play? Do what? But Woody of school those goals under Josie. I thought he's still being probably know probably know, but he has more of a freedom. It doesn't take away from the five. This is Manchester United and one of the what it was great midfielders allegedly against the productivity in the Premier League. Australian have you look at the games before? Marina was there. You know, you had had games against awesome. You had games against UV. You games against Valencia and Liverpool those were tougher games. So I think I personally think you've got to balance. I don't think he would school those goals. No, listen, when you sit in a team, oh, you have to have some sort of organization and employers have to have some sort of disciplined. Yeah. But usually marine YouTube that too far when you have a plea lake Paul, Bob, you give him a couple of little things that you asked to do enough to let you go. You know, what the reason why your World Cup winner? There's a reason why you were a hundred million because you've got a great football Bryn. When you she things then you go do you do that's what he's doing right now? He doesn't it doesn't feel any pressure about or can go into the or do this. Or do you have to know? He's just plan. Yeah. Getting bought it doesn't take away from the fucked United. He's flat. Trump billiards free treats of benevolent taking right? So. L in this season against from the time. We had games like it showed up in a way where he was reginal was even blend up she'll directly, but she's no discussion of as Paul Paul a very good player. Says it's a discussion about is all of a sudden the one because the played against these three games and taught them coming up amongst one or two teams from beggar games. And then we're going to find out a little bit more about what he's going to bring this unique team Paolo what what's your take public poke viz last three games, somewhat expose Josie. Marina. Expose. Does marie? You certainly sort of highlighted something that we suspected as marina was there, which is the puck, but wasn't wasn't happy under him and didn't feel like he was expressing himself as as freely as he did. I mean, what's interesting about Marino is he's he's a very precise coach when it comes to the defensive setup, but he's not actually like Antonio Conte. For instance, the manager who when it would be attacking movements is sort of very rigid says, you know, you go here, you can hear me have a cassette move that we would ten times over and training to make sure we get it. Exactly. Right. He actually does allow talking players a bit more freedom, but you could see with pct think he's still weighed the responsibility of the defensive duties that renew put him on making sure you're always getting back. Make sure you're always being responsible than failed a bit more heavily to me. It feels like then he has so far in association not a soldier. He's just felt free to express himself. I think he's just felt free to to play his game. And clearly he's a confidence player. Clearly, he's he has played in these three games against the highest highest position. He's going to face them. I do think there's just a lot of. I don't know this sort of personal feeling of freedom and liberation that. You can see in him, which I think will stand him in good stead in the Tottenham gaming and others as well. You know, I think just briefly well not because we got legit. New year, slim, Pickens the results, what was went the way we expect today. So we got him. I think the most important thing for Pokemon United is not not. All goodness. Oh scout for me. It's might feel right? I feel in who was some say David moisture kept him, but was a longtime Lieutenant for Salah. Ferguson was a player there is not just about court. But it's about understanding the playoffs and something that they had a problem with clearly on the marina. You saw moat taught them to poke by another join the game is a great shoulder to lean on for so scar. And nothing more than source got himself. I think that's been the most important recruitment is been bringing button may feel into both help the manager and help the players on the field player. He's never been afraid of expressing himself eat. It has interesting quotes today from his national team. Coach Roberto Martinez about its potential move. He said, I don't know if a new challenge would be good for him knows how much they love him at Chelsea this chemistry between salary and him. It's uncertain. If a new project would be good for him. Break my international monitor piped up whether it was going to be making a move to phone them up and say shut up. My business even though you might say, well, the never used to get involved. There you go. Why is he come out and said, well what's wrong with a new challenge? Particularly particularly a guy who is a time of his career. No. We'll never. Yeah. Twenty seven is you don't wanna be waiting. You're not going to get up move. If one you may lately so between the ages of twenty five and ferry. It's chance to make. Hey, whoever this on shines loot. And we don't know what the transplant policy is going to be see going forward. We're going to very good monitor. But we don't know how much much money they're going to spend to try and be competitive gated in England on in Europe. And if you've Johnston goal, and I don't know if we Hawes to to Real Madrid or air, another big club, huge club. Then you're gonna have to take and Martinez, obviously has a vested interest in keeping has the very top of his game. Stevie would would move to rail Madrid's alter those stats that we're looking at no one. I mean every foot will play the I ever ever knew talk to wants to play with the big east and the best and the most famous. I mean, that's that's why we all play the game as a kid. How would you be ratchet if you'll managers don't know don't move to? I would I would have done exactly what. Craig call them on shocked. But then again, listen, he's probably he's been asked the question, and he's giving it on so but personally, no keep keep boat. You know, what's wrong an answer? But will it suppliers business? Right. It says. Has has career you know, kind of feel. Go the field. He's gotta run at brought a little bit this one yet tomorrow show ESPN MC, check your local listings. That would know God mal, Cody, it was the Paulo Amina show for us Syria. Also, my podcast available on the it's being halted to spend a lot of time in this. Recent addition talk about the Pula Bali red cod. It's after they tape that Italian football federation, president Gabriella GRA came out. And basically backed the referee Palo mental leaning saying, hey, he couldn't interrupt the game. He followed procedure perfectly. The chief of security clearly stated within five minutes left of the game. You could never have suspended play with risk of creating a massacre. We will discuss with the minister for the interior to see if these procedures can be revised and simplified. We can make it clearer that for example after three warnings in the stadium team's go back into the locker room with the decision made the security chief at the stadium. So Paulo, I know this came out after you recorded the puck how so so apparently the referee was now correct reps are not allowed to stop the game. Is that your understanding? Yeah. It's a question of public order in the end, the referee can can request those those announcements on the speak and contrite and initiate that conversation obviously there on the pitch and they have to be the the game. But through the fourth official they can initiate that conversation with the police with the people who look off the security the stadium about whether or not as possible to stop the game. But again in the end decision has to be taken by the police body that is responsible for ensuring the public safety, and with sixty five thousand people that sounds zero that is I think the right way it should be. I don't think you can expect a referee whose job is first and foremost to manage the game to to make the decision about what's happening off the pitch. I think that should be someone else's responsibility. But that clearly does need to be a clear opportunity for that dialogue to happen. And for someone state responsibility in that situation, perhaps that isn't the referee. What'd you make of it goes personnel? Rhone massacre. Let's get some fog and throw some fog over all what it should be really simple behavior is going on. Now, you you away. You take action. You don't you? Don't just leave it. See maybe Leila. Forget about all we can we can get away with it because I just throw in a bit of fog onto couple up. Maybe these people can just actually be civilized, Bryce. And that would just for one stays at during this could be civilized about things and do normal. People would the entry everybody the same. And then we wouldn't be we wouldn't need to be having these discussions because clearly if you're in new stadium is bake is not as the sun zero. And that's a huge game against Napoli with a big crowd. And he can have an officials can hear that people Paolo. If people do not. Your response. Yeah. Well, I disagree with that something needs to be done about it. I think that there should be responsibility. Take an I understand Wegger Vinas coming from the just currently not it's not up to the football. Authorities made that decision it's up to the people who are responsible again for the sixty thousand people the safety of the fans the stadium because the majority of sixty thousand people who are making the chance it's a section of them. But the fear is that if you stop the game, you're going to get a much wider reaction. Now, that's not to say, oh, you ignore it. And it's not to say, oh, you let it happen. Because this is just more convenient. It's just to say, it's not perhaps the the right person to making that decision is not the one whose main focus through the game is on what's happening immediately in front of the on the page. It's really decision for someone who has sat beside the page who is responsible for the police are going to have to manage that situation. It's there it's there. I guess the position of command to make that decision rather than the referee Palo awesome controversy. Following the event Doria wildly entertaining. Drove at the penalties. Drew the era of Massimiliano Allegra saying to be honest, given either the two penalties today. But it's only Italy, but this much controversy is stood up. But just want to get your thoughts on that on the end of that quote Paulo because for my money in every league. And every lead that we talk about reps and penalties and control disease is stood up as it is it really even more. So in Italy. Yes, it is. I mean, it's every match round in every major newspaper. You get the mobile. I call them the action replay, call them, which they will go through every game and go through every contingent decision and say was this a right decision or a role, which I don't think you see done to the same degree in England same level of scrutiny ill several other countries. You will also get a conversation happening among sort of directs and manages that. I think is just of a completely different tone to what you see in England. So for instance, before the intensively game, the not believe president out idea. Didn't this had before the mansion even happened had raised the issue on on Napoli's? Cub radio station. Oh, I don't like the designation of Matt. So they need to the cost of this game. He hasn't been impartial with us in the past. And I think that sort of conversation club presidents before games even happened making their opinions known on a particular referee. You don't see so much in other countries like that system right raging every referee decision in the us paper. Maybe maybe we should do more of that. We would you played you on this. You. Listen to you should've Avar appears independently. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Then the evidence we're getting stubbed up. Shelley though. Yeah. Because I mean, it's almost kind of like everybody sitting going. Well, you know what it's coming on. Then when it comes in. We'll be able to well one the stand that is helpful referees the game go and show quickly. The only get one look rolled out. All that stuff. I think that's why would kind of alone to say to the referees just with Ovar comes. And then we start scrutinizing them think he's owning this controversy stirred up perhaps more so there, but it's, but it's everywhere it's going away. Is it no involves not gonna take away? Because decisions are still subjective. Upsides them. Shouldn't be like black and white. But the other things that panel codes, the diving the contact, you know, they don't subjective. And they're going to still going to be difficult decisions for the referees to make no matter what country you're in. But if you think back to the World Cup in particular where it was a good than what? And it seems to be working reasonably in countries. Like Italy has always going to be there's almost always going to be disagreements, but that's just the way as so Syria off for a couple of weeks lucky so and so the culprits Alliott will resume actually they the weekend after this wasn't just a reminder, you vent nine points ahead of Napoli another five points between them and instead. Title logs as we stand Liverpool all zone favorites to win it in Manchester City, thirty two eight Spurs the rank outside is seven point separating livable and magic city heading into today. Clash at the head on Thursday Palo. What are we going to see? Hopefully a great game. But but I think city you're gonna win this one. I think because they're at home. I think maybe I've just hoping it'll be more interesting for the title race. But I think you're gonna sweet this one maybe three to they certainly need it Stevie. You'll Las chance to weigh on this game. I'm gonna stuck between a draw and Liverpool one, and I'm going to see a draw. I think I think it will be a school and draw thing maybe two because I think for me there's actually not really that much pressure on city is straightforward go and try and win the game after they have to live a full on the other hand, do the do you just open up gopher all the maybe try maybe maybe get a little confused either way. I'm going to go for the goal. We will wait on the game on tomorrow's. Right. So you tomorrow. Yes. The first extra time of the year, Saint boys. I'm impressed. Chris. Talking through this show with nary a blip. Pinnacle in bed last night. He goes home. She why. That. Let's let's see what you give us day. All right. Well, let's start with this one. Let's start with this what hot Hosh rage by that. Hey, Steve livable, banks the league. Would you come back to Twitter? Did you leave? Know because I left Twitter you've lived. A more selective. No, no is is is a Twitter up. He hasn't Eisley was was to. Yes. The activists. He's just still just not look at the activates Don Thomas highs, basically taken off coffee four illegal rights, but it's still going. So he can't use it any say his best toll to us too. Because you cut remember any boss? Anyway, difficult finding it here. Let's see what somebody said to me. It's not the season up an odd been over. Then I'll probably would have said, yes. But no the fight that the favorites. And don't really want to go back home, twelve would livable. Where did the title? That's about the first. About doing in celebration. I was telling this last week people are still following him. He's gaining followers. Yeah. Like vita hundreds. Or even though the the not quite getting, you know. You know, who's out portable using bright? Yes. It's getting still right? He'll be buck on here on long, but not because of livable title that he's not gonna be the spur over he'll be back on it. Paolo one for you on a scale of one to ten government to the slightly more serious scandal. One to ten how important is it from the land finishing the four this season. Maybe no charming. Ten whether they gonna do it. It's not the question. I it's it's ten than they need to be in there. Yeah. There there are club who like many many other clubs as sort of relying financially on the money that they could make being in the Champions League. And that's entirely idea when you go out and take Zola he Guoan on a one year loan zeal. But with you know, the a complete deal for a lot of money at the end of it hates the expectation. You're gonna champions they need to balance the books. Ten ten is the whether or not they're going to be there is is is another question. Whether or not you're not have got through those right managed to try and get there's another question, but how much they need it. Yeah. Cannot attend right eleven if you're allowed this one went to eleven. Would be eleven. This is not going to be there barring. A huge Tubman function for now. Yeah. Yeah. I mean when again spo- while you were hanging on the and then before schooled in and four Sarah games. So what the crazy thing is. We've got to it. You know, I'm not saying this becomes a complete arguments. Keep him in place. But when you go through the calendar year that's just finished twenty eighteen mealtime with joint within in the third most points picked up by team in the calendar year. So, you know, purely in return is purely in terms of how many points that seem picked up in here. He's he's sort of dumb. What he has to the teams playing well enough, whether it's ever acceptable for me lines. Go full games. Janki four that happens. Another question. Tagab Cowboys try sellers. This Justice GO. So fine tastic live a one the number one is get it. And it's good to ball. If it'd been any other year, not one they were the one of the calendar year argument is used law, isn't it? Let's I'll I'll have a whole different conversation with you about about Napoli. And look I think what he's doing. There is great even if they don't win the league, I think that playing fantastic football meal and not playing fantastic football. So my willingness to defend them is a little bit lower. Not believe I'm definitely with guy. Ball defend what they've done pretty strongly given given budget, given the opportunities they happen with team event is they've been very good on this. On this tool ice, boring. Subjects of calendar years. I'm gonna give you even more boring calendar year, right? We go momma in Scotland, by the way Milan of get no money. Kamala. Haven't got a port right compared to the rest on Stevie clock has I think the most points in the coun- the head of Celtic Rangers and all the rest who owes spend them by gazillions or taking off. Fly. That's appropriate on the right? But you know, what the end of gonna mean unfortunately, leagues gone on calendar years, and they still. We're hearing this right. What you're saying is Stevie Clarke should replace got dues oatmeal. Well, wolf thing you have you have hit FOX, you know, we'd late headlines. ESPN NFC. We'll have is. He's done eastern. I'm amazing job commodities. New money is it's incredible. I hope he does on the job can tell you really interesting, Connecticut you to stop talking about Scottish football. You you just. I never right. You should try and get the profile is a big rich mine. I love you come now. Let's talk a little bit come in the Glenn. Lauch third Lanark. That that that would lose everyone. Sierran Samuel wants to know what you made of Andrea and raviolis Cullman, saying Tottenham is below hip crappy. Oh, no. No. He's he's he's he's he's big sports director that. Maybe it was lost in translation. I don't know. I think what it means. He's got higher aspirations to go to. I mean. I mean, you've few boss and taught known is the same. It's no not sane. But you could you could express a different way. I this silly thing to see if he actually said. That's a great player. I posed by the guy would absolutely you know. You know? Possible move moving of course, as we said, there's a way of expression. Yeah. Come here have expression sales roughly. What would you say about Joe, Monaco is what I wanna know fa favorite TV series us. Joy, boom Lund. We were just talking to a homelands right up there. Now. Now, we'd be talking about these these Netflix series that we've come. I'm I'm going to have to go with kill by. Now only goes in offing fools uses. Brendan Byrne near. TV's? I don't watch any. The blacklist great. Yes. Well, tila. Why won't you do till ally? Blue bloods, Lou butts. Big terms tonight, monitor NBC now. Oh, yeah. That was that was good flat. Less of what's the sopranos Ray? Donovan Basham for a while. Yeah. Homeland Oviously usually. What you watch in. This is really. This is no neither current nor. Makes it no reflective of most of watched the moment. Weirdly, I'm watching the crown and I'm ready, enjoying it class voice fantastic. So yeah. I don't watch, you know, somebody that does I know pallets. I'd be. Thorns could the good doctor? No, you do do you had me just a little bit. We're kind of what you most looking forward to in twenty nine thousand nine football all otherwise. So the wide open go we can't damn the days outweigh when when does the when's it can all with when the when the winter. So she'll be no for another three months yet. Minimum. We could have been out today. Fifty five degrees. And he wasn't ever. Get me out there. Economy. You really three jumper. Nicole is not open repel. We'll that was the slight problem in in the plan. We look forward to twenty nineteen well, hopefully, a little bit put one in the league at bleeding lost thirty twenty eight years twenty years. Isn't that amazing? I think there are there are people alive twenty seven years. With the beam twenty years ago and Liverpool. Not when title. No, it would be national men should should talent. We've been that would be Paolo twenty nine and then you're looking forward to and he hopes you're off and you look up. Iraqi question you're asking this question at the end of New Year's days on his own. So I'm looking forward to my bed. It looks like most I'm looking forward to to seeing whether or not this even to see which is so obviously Bill to try and win the time because they see what they can do it. I mean, a tough draw with that that's Madrid. So yeah, I'm looking forward to the knock-out rounds the Champions League and seeing see whether you can make that final set. Yeah. About the nation's league final that's something to look. Well, I tell you what we if we get sent. Suddenly gone me. Some some great importance. Okay. Yeah. Looking forward to in twenty nine just sort of the correct? This the correct, Don I'm looking forward to the state dinner that gap Marcatti is going to buy me. When when crystal Piontek makes twenty goes Sarah Wilson podcasts, we made that that oh, my steak dinner, man. So he's nowhere near twenty knowing. Well, known gobs a fair chance is thirteen of the halfway point of the season. I think he's doing just fine. Eating it for us. And you what stack to bed as well? He's. Yeah. He's is telling you how you should cooked. What do you watch? I well, we were just talking about. I've been I got all these things lined up on Netflix watch. But they include the two football. So Bobby Robson films that by? And suddenly documentary have just I to Wade into. That's a different Bill different. Yes. There's a lot of kind of watching a train. They're not are into TV series episodes Wilbur eight, I think. Right. No one some of them. They follow them for someone till I die year and the Walsum worse every week. Definitely what you trae rake was bond with you old school Blackadder comedy company. Still. Was still fighting. John. There's one moment co killing eve one another one called me say Roby final. We don't we don't get out. So they smell miscellaneous maestro who can do the most sit-ups within a minute. We're no in any. To try and conduct Paulo. Maybe maybe you could weigh in a reckon on the entire FC crew. Could do the most sit ups in a minute. I don't know. I I have no idea. It's not me X pros over there. Very. Twenty twenty years doing sales, y'all can assure you when you funny. Oh, have you seen the dog? I got a sneaking feeling hey, don't be fooled raw power sneaking. Failing Stuart Robson Robert. He's a he's a he's a strict boxer rubble. Yeah. He'll go out. You'll have a glossy white, and he'll be in Germany, but he's in the gym. And the next morning know, quite how we roll. No. We don't quite roll rock and roll out deaf. We won't plus the gym. Good. But yeah. All right on that note. We're done. Yes, we did lose weight, but the dog sit ups, please don't. Yeah. We would let's go come on New Year's we wanna go home off we go Palo. Thank you, sir. We will be back as you. Steve Alford your travels tomorrow review, the Chelsea Manning against amongst of things.

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Germany's Growing Pains

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Germany's Growing Pains

"Welcoming Select Sedition ESPN AFC. I'm Dan Thomas John My Craig Burley Stephen Echo Am Casey Cata. We also welcome to the show World Cup winner Frank Leboeuf as with us zero qualifying of course dominating football at the moment and we start in Northern Ireland. They were taking on in Germany Northern Ireland with a one hundred percent record going into this game. The Germans are winning by two goals to nil to put them top the the table meanwhile the Dutch Foreign Victory Estonian. We'll touch on that later on but first. Let's start with what happened in Northern Ireland right. What do we have to jacket on your today prevalent. Why do we saw on this. Do we say about vowed on Germany. You got the win that's what matters as all that matters as all that mottos bought their unconvincing they are very unconvincing berry main northern the island or a team particularly against the bigger countries that don't tend to create many chances a toll they usually counting box just defending the defendant defending world to have to do <hes> for some periods didn't have to do that for ninety minutes and they looked at it going forward ended the first half and as the game more on <hes> they had CIANCI's Gemini Job Don Kanye laughing at the hosts slow house lost some of these defenders on nine hundred stronger than they would have been definitely goals in this guy absolute go into this match under pressure knowing that they had to win it and they did yeah and that's the most important thing holy performed means not really celebrate the result of Germany had been Gemini Light and completely dominate this game impossible off the park and not one we'd have been slaughtering them for that so it's all about one and again they weren't convincing the from the fos- minute to the last dilute vulnerable and the shootout loss goals but they didn't and that's what counts us vulnerable well in Holland showed that the other day right that they exposed dome and they and they got their goals because because of it Northern Ireland exposed him as well at different times they couldn't get gold noyer came up with a couple of saves a couple of times when balls just flashed across the post I think with with a little more clinical finishing from Northern Ireland could have been a different ballgame but at the same time with a little more clinical finishing from Germany as well they could have extended that lead earlier but but still yes the result was key after it was a good bounce back not performance wise but result wise from losing at home to to the Dutch the other. I don't think there's any big nations can Gemini thinking don't WanNa find when we get there because quite frankly unless it thanks to telling around in the know either you still go to qualify but then a position now you're not going to be afraid to play them particularly with the midfield and bottling but the one thing. I yeah but Northern Ireland and get onto some other countries on the astral good is it's one of the reasons Michael and Neil is being looked up by some some clubs and some decent jobs is because okay this and sometimes in make it difficult to be you look at the team that scored substitution you think who the Hell Halevi go to those and then sixty four windsor foregin into this game against Germany and how can they be somewhat competitive against I know they say you know how mediocre Germany say the still giving them a game so I think credit to him. The Fox even get some somewhat compared. It's not the subways for Scotland conversation which you will have a hater. I bet we were heading up just about Germany from moment frank. I'm going to ask you about the defense because stevie use the word vulnerable and that's exactly what they looked even know they're up against Northern Ireland. When the Irish went forward you know they were going to school aw yeah. It's this seemed to be very fragile to admit the strong people strong guys. Is You know very very people but they don't work together. The don't really talk to each other forget that of course they the result but defensively in especially in the first. This seems to be very vulnerable in the way that remember this this chance that Washington just got it from from across from Dallas another Irish that would have scored. It would have been another story. I think against the Casey say that again also also so. I think the we don't see the Germany that we used to see this to work very hard. If they want to offer something something that we can maybe tell mind butts right now what we see especially the first half and after the twenty minutes after the first twenty minutes of the second half the steals sure that the Fra John de can problems very quickly because the the very strong enough defensively we really harsh when Yogi love after the defeat against the Dutch he's not he's not getting any below for North the island but he hasn't got a lot to work now. That's an issue as well. He he's partly to blame for. Li- he decided he was going to jettison some of the ways some of them were were the end and he made he made some decisions when this guy didn't liaison to the to the World Cup making decisions like I mean so Hello Jeff as we was because they they'd be Northern Ireland wins you can't see any parts and with the GM. There's there's nothing right listen as much as criticizing the bike lane for the chances they gave up. Let's be honest until until the Irish started chasing the game. They couldn't break them down hard. Pretty much was off set a record. She fell a some who couldn't take a chance. This wasn't a case of them outplaying in the IOVISION MESSENGER thought from it so listen we can criticize the land all you want but going forward. Yogi love hasn't got a parts of of anything. There's no combination. Play is no it seems was talk with footballers footballers the don't ask do you think about it but there's there's no no movement. Nobody seems to know what every strategy do not means. You have to take me think a well organized defense because you down then even take it a step further. Go back to the German team in Brazil the level of athleticism in that team in Brazil and the pace overlaps encounter attacks and it just isn't there so you're not even looking at a team that says okay. We'll maybe have to absorb a little pressure then that ball comes in and then and it's two three passes down in someone's half and it's over teams are even that scared to get numbers for. Donald then you look at how pedestrian that back line is his so if they pushed the two outside backs forward. Do you really want soula coming out of the middle to go mark. Somebody out wide one on one. If he's a top class YEP player imagine playing against the Dutch playing against we saw the other day imagine playing against Belgium and having those centrebacks get wide exposed one on one. It's not good Muslim French within both in Greece Netflix. They'll pre med field imagine ah they would expose that's the difference at the moment that's came to wear. Gemini are unless coach is that you just look at say the French arguably the best team and the world at the moment and you think who would the call with US French talk and it's hard to see Ho- barring the French had a particularly by the the German could even cope with the physicality the pace of the French team. Meanwhile in group is not a good night because Scotland. We say like what a lot these days a four nil win for Belgian Hamdan Pa over the Scots was valid. Jim in the mountains went through the the quality and their expectations since going into the year rise next year but for Scotland Perspective you mentioned it you touch me with no island wheels why they suck why the League and yeah well well the former manager. Steve Clarke about <hes> but not table is not an embarrassment. I mean the qualifications over because Russia of got fifteen points and you're not making none of the other teams do not call them are approaching Russia or Belgium. Would your qualifications well and truly over Scotland can can one go the way through the nation's. League of the half to help say there's a good job. San Marino improved on the ball with that group and they don't say it has been going on for years but the problem all the mice for Stevie clock and he's on the job and few harmfully games as you go to make a decision what you wanted to because at least you have to make yourself without level when you've put a place is harder to play against and if you can't do that you're stuffed team. We've just seen Nolan all in island today who had a great example of a site and a group of players that know what they are and they know that they have to do what they have to do. In order to get resolved Scotland are still in the mode of well. We're not that we're strobe the not and so whenever the do try and play and the open up then they lose Google's. ooh You know you don't see that from the Republic of Ireland. Don't do either because the understand where they are. They understand what they're all about and what they have to do. Scotland right now still don't understand that they're going to have to pay an spurt and kick and punch people to get a result no matter who they are because if you go causing Dan and lose three nil that should tell you there's a huge clumber for Mike and Michael Neale the Northern Ireland manager to get this job for quite a number two months. Maybe even over a year. It didn't happen and Stevie got an a half the time the Bucky Steve. He's working on a shoestring string budget was amazing the work that but I'm just wondering now like all the other managers in the last ten twelve fifteen years of banana whether he's thinking when he gets home tonight saying the dumb made the right decision because this has been a death knell for for a law have taken not Scotland job with a good reputation nation has just smash them straighten and of course up against Britain Belgium. We just took a look at their ages of this and I remember there was no talk and ask you a lot of players very much in their prime among and there was a lot of expectations even the last World Cup even the euro's before that that this is a Belgian squad Belgian side that and compete that there maybe four or five years ago. You could see it coming through. They weren't necessarily favorites but he said hey they could cause some problems here. They've obviously done that now is they're getting a little bit older a little bit more experienced if they can stay healthy and they can have their best eleven best thirteen a squad that they have as well fighting for positions. There's no question that they can't be extremely dangerous. Next summer you mentioned the two the two is our brothers and then you've got some more names on vessels. They're hugely experience at Metro and I'm sure that US to more the account over mad but pay was pressure on touched on it yesterday. Insure as pressure on Roberto Martinez when he takes scored two will the hell. The genre takes scored. Whatever the Games are GONNA be expected. Yeah they had a good World Cup but ultimately they were an important stage and they're going for the French French played where whether the Spanish the English anybody has federation will attempt to go there and have a right good enough what surprises me the odds to win the euros looking at that team and you mentioned has arts in it only four favorites behind the England team which China's love excitement about but when you've got two stars like Kevin The broin and Edin houshold who walk into any side surely that elevates Belgium Spain and England England on should be second field as well no question I mean right now actually ranked number one in the world but that's three for rankin siles care. Okay book here because it will evolve in the World Cup. He's sent the benchmark when they go to the euro's unless they're at least though he's under pressure because he's taken about far no he has to do what every Belgian courts struggled to take aches with step and actually win something from a French perspective frank a Belgian. The opponents should be most concerned about. I think it's a fantastic team. I think they deserve to win something. We still know you know waiting for something coming up from this small country but fool oftentimes players and that would be we'd be glad to see the the Bajic team winning something but of course we cannot France as a favorite for the next European championship but what about the the English question marks about the Spanish. She's going to be hard to to to to say right now. What the truth will be within nine months so reina right. Now we say that badge is a favorite to win the European Championship. That's that's for me for sure. The favorite of the competition right we know is a good chance that would have won two thousand sixteen co-chair near with a- was you know it was never happened for real moist just Iran on reputation from being a former Belgian clear although BA management money management national team and it was almost like he was just saying these are the here's the talented you just go and play whether you like Martinez or whatever is all obey Amish teams play out in the way his weaknesses always been teams defense they they can sort of always going to give teams problems at the other end and when you saw the French euro two thousand sixty the new report for one and the way that Belgium to where you know the thing there and hit some of the child but when you think back to hop into the playoffs they hide. Ho the well I mean I know the Welsh were riding a wave and embiid okay was playing great but but still have facet period squad and I I agree with Steve and I think the reason of no idea why the bookies have gotten them will they are the I think. The only reason is just history. I think sometimes when you think of one thousand nine hundred sixty six say I agree we're looking at England and how easily they seem to qualify for everything and then when they get to the tournament. It doesn't quite happen for them. Yes it was a good run the World Cup in it. There's kind of this little hope for England but yeah I think there's that little bit of the Premier League also kind of elevates in mind a little bit. I'm I'm from Belgium. Perspective could the experience and what's happened in the past however disappointing in Spain help going into this. I don't think so who'd been saying that for a long time seems like forever. We've been saying well the failure of the possible help them. I think honestly Craig's the one that nailed the the different and the coach huge you try. You know he doesn't really have to do that much. Yes yes Martinez teams of struggle defensively but he doesn't have to talk to that defense. It's experienced itself old and knows exactly war is doing his expertise going forward and that's where I think we'll messed up and so that's that's why the will exists but there has to be a balanced so right because yes that's an extremely talented team going forward but once you play against France and let's say and you have the pace that France has you push a lot a numbers forward and leave gaps. You're going to get smashed on the counter attack so so you have to have that little bit of balance. Yes we know our strength is going forward but we can't leave those holes against the top nations and I even look at England when I when I look at that front three front four that they there's a lot of speed and a lot of pace that if you're trying to think that you're going to play one V one at the back from midfield and you have Raheem Sterling going one way and you might need to realize that you gotTa have a little bit better balanced. This nation leaks. It's been great for competitiveness in teams will have an avenue to get to the euro's but then a look a look at us and they seem Belgian Glasgow full now with what two thousand Zipper Team Not GonNa Snow Right now for a lot more international taught be sure to download the latest addition of the Gab podcast which is available over on the website joining at a twig offset when he was three and from that day on he was hooked all he wanted to do was Gulf Gulf Gulf. He'd be on the links before school after schools all he ever wanted was Gopro and then one day when he was holding his grandson thinking about his twelve handicap. Johnny realized it just might not happen for him but you know what did happen for him. He switched to go and saved a bunch of money on car insurance so that was good and so was hanging out with his grandson. Surprising Group E Cratia Cody Manji one one draw against Azerbaijan they still remain top of the tables. The vacuum have closed the gap apple them to one point along with hungry after a big win for them to win against that group rivals meanwhile in Group G Poland known could only manage a nil the jaw against Austria Slovenia with a three two victory over Israel and it's the not to second in the table <music> being friendly's. US In action again tomorrow against Uruguay looking to put in some sort of show after that to balk doc warnings against Mexico such foams. That sounds like wreck that hell to obviously trying to play a certain has the players to play that way well. That's the big question isn't it and so far. It hasn't worked and I think when you're a manager of a national team you have three or four for days to work with the guys before a game. You've got obviously a group of players that it's not like you can go into a transfer window and say oh wait a minute. This guy's not playing the way I wanted to play so the chairman's give me a bunch of money. Now can go put somebody there. I think so much of a national team manager's job is has to understand what you have available to you and putting those players on the field and play them in a way that they can get a result depending on on the opponent that you're playing against. I think it's one thing if you're playing a first round of Row Cup qualifying against a concacaf side. I that's not Mexico or Costa Rica then then yeah. Maybe you can play a particular way. When you're playing Mexico with the squad that they have then I think you have to adjust. I love the idea conceptually of laying out on them. Both playing the way that this is the way we're gonNA play and guess what if your pep Guardiola and you have a few hundred million dollars that you can spend in salary. Yes you can demand that. US National Team Right now. I don't think has that luxury and they have to adjust depending on the opponent. They had that they're up against and I think the thing that was most difficult for me in that in that match against Mexico Toco was clearly the first ten fifteen minutes it went okay and then Mexico made some adjustments and the US just kept kept playing into exactly the way Mexico wanted him to play so lucky not to be three four down in the first half second half they they're they're still there hanging in at one nil and then by overplaying out of the back. They threw away any chance. They had to try to steal the result out of it. I I played a lot of games for the national team. Were maybe we didn't deserve a result but because of the little chips on our shoulder and the team spirit era in that in that maybe you know we fought our way to keep ourselves in a match that we got a late goal or we kept a a clean sheet when we should have or whatever it was if you're just going to play against a team like Mexico and obviously a very good team yes. Are they going to be missing. Cavani and Suarez of course but I don't know if the US can play the way they played against Mexico in that they're going to get a result there has to I would assume mm-hmm. That's some changes would be made. Both we know that personnel personnel wise. There's a group of players that have been allowed to go back to their club teams so it is it's. GonNa be some changes there but I think tactically as well. I don't think you can play the way you played against Mexico and think you're going to get a result and there's at some point where you know you hear people say oh. It's a friendly right. It's not about the result. It's about figuring stuff out personally the national team manager. It's about results. You can't and you can't say well. Phillip stake with a ROMP and all that we're working on all these kinds of their for short periods of go back to the club is you can only walk just at least in your club team case. I mentioned while the all there are others dion. Try to figure out you few days or the national team and then you go off when you play on a four fourteen of a diamond or three Barco whatever and so you got to figure out. It's no point says national team. This is the way we're you're going to want. There's a primary. There's a prime example of that. If you look at the way Zach stephanus started for Fatu Duesseldorf Fortuna Dusseldorf is going to be very happy to finish one spot ahead of the relegation right right. They know that they're not going to be able to play like that in the boonies league if they think that they're going so there's making it very simple for Zach Stephan. We're GONNA take no risks. We're GONNA hit the ball here. Yes if it's it's on of course played out of the back but under pressure we can't afford to give up goals because we know in this circumstance where we're not going to be able to outscore our opponents. If a mistake jake is made up and he was forced to play some balls that he shouldn't have been forced to play. We shouldn't forget it doesn't eerie you played the things that applied right the very start and still do today and that is the rate you have to win the right to play you can expect you walk on the field and start shocking the ball around your own penalty box and the opposition just. GonNa stand by you know yes you start and you try and if it doesn't work then you change you push them back somehow and then you try and play again and then you cut out most cotton most so that has never changed. You have to earn the right to plea here. We have a new manager her. You you know have a hard time in the morning and I know that some younger players I understand however here we have a guy who is gonNA start running out of excuses because only all the real dumb ones out there the real dumb ones and there are plenty of those by an end to the well behind the scenes scenes walking on stuff and it's coming in place and we're putting the bricks in place and building the foundations. That's nonsense that is just trying to buy yourself off type the BS bothell he'll beat the B s baffles Brayden Brigades right yeah and only those the other thing that they're talking about is the same as an NFL game when it comes to tactics completely roll up nothing like it's quite a simple game name may difficult by Demisch right right and I think there's going to become a time where I think he's going to be trying to overcomplicate it with guys are naught anywhere near ready to do that and then he's going to have to go back or is in trouble going to have to go by the basics to try and get result resolve. We'll go back to the conversation we had about Scotland and Northern Ireland situated Northern Ireland understands the players they have the situation relation there in against certain clubs against certain nations yeah and you can't play a particular way against some of those nations or oh. You'RE GONNA get ripped apart now. I love for the US to be to have the Belgian squad right now to be able to play however the heck I wanna play because look at the team team. I have on the field. Well look at France. Look at it. Look you need to adjust to us. We're not adjusted anybody but no. We're not in that situation right now. You have to play differently differently. Accordingly Mexico right now has a stronger squad than we have and if you think you're going to just throw a ball in the middle and say we're GONNA play our way you play your way. It's not gonNA work. I love the people that I love what I love this seeing an Abbad. We say we you know. WH- uh-huh before them yourselves throw in Scotland mental level. Let's talk a bit Scotland the Bokolas. We're talking about the US here I love. I love the well we need to have. An identity entity identity as you play against here is your identity should be. You're flexible you tough athletic. You're you're moving forward. You're on the younger players. Come in on your adoptable youngest son war planned international football is like international foot was not let club level is it's more of a chess match. You play against the best teams in the game can be really slow low yet and then bang fleet four posses them behind you get. It's very I think seems like bad health that in particular as pandering to this. This was new we of plan as opposed to doing what needs to be done because that's what it's all about you go. I do what you do get a result not pander to all the snobby people who think this is how you should shouldn't play. Craig makes a great point about identity unfortunately with the national team. Your identity is chosen by the players is that you have available and you don't get to choose the identity because if you don't have the bl- how do we compare the place now so this squad to the scores that you is being successful. I think in some ways there's some similarities in other ways. I think if you looked at today soft while I don't know if they're soft I don't know if they quite have the chip on their shoulder that they had back in the day because look at what salaries in mls have done you guys in you had guys back in the day and Stevie will attest to this where MLS and said Oh. You're an American. Oh we're GonNa pay you well now. The American kids are make some decent money in mls before you said well MLS said look. WE'RE NOT GONNA pay. You said we'll find that I'm GONNA let my contract run out and I'm going to go fight for anything I can get in Europe. That's probably well but so so I think what needs to happen. What was the what was the very first thing Bruce Arena said when he was interviewed when he retook the national team job after clansman was let go the question was what's the difference between Mexico Mexico now and when you had this success beating Mexico all time he said most of Mexico's team is playing in Europe but the highest level that wasn't the case Mexico always overpaid to keep their players locally there has to be that balance between getting your your best players getting to the highest level and also giving him this opportunity to build an. MLS is should be a great combination <music>. Hurricane is called grounded over the last couple of matches. He addressed the accusations of diving saying I never and hopefully I don't have to. I said Games fifty fifty one similar to the one we got given us at Wembley. The year before happens in book for someone who uses buddy wow which has to do every level on the halfway line. It's a free-kick every day of the week in the penalty box. You don't always get it the spice exactly what you'd expect a good man meal rate. How else is he. GonNa say. All you would be sure was the question still spoke presents the English media yeah. No I think he answered a very well. He's looking for contact. That's always been allowed. It's nothing new you have. The defenders stupid off the barge into you then that's his problem not not the guy who says that man that would more never tim some. Marino twenty runs around there but I would mourn. I was actually more and more about my stupid defenders who didn't figure Oh. This is what this guy does. Ask Ali Ali go give them credit was pathway arte body in the way and if somebody was shipping enough keep Ronin reentered the buckle of them then not shown them on Ali. I think there's there's two right definitions the dive when you you see where there's truly with a gap or something and then all of a sudden somebody falls over and tries to con it and then. I think there's the one where you're coming this way and I'm the striker the balls here and I just go into you and then fall over yeah. Look I understand what Steve's talking about. There's one point if I'm going to stand there but there's another thing if I initiate the contact with you and then fall over. That's a dive Franken. y'All J I hi. Thank you dead yeah. I think I think I my just passed an opinion. I think he does throw themselves over. I think he's become more power in this game I. I don't think he's games his shoppers. It was I think he's frustrated and I'll say again. Johnny foreigner would be a not hog third cold over at frank frank thoughts. My thought I think against Newcastle I think he I w the defender and at least it didn't I've it was touched but it wasn't a penalty for me but also as Casey explained very well well he was looking for the contact so he put his body a between the ball and the and the defender and and block his is run to make sure that the defendant we hit him so for me. If you're looking for the penalty you diver because you not playing through through the spirit of football and for me wasn't diver in that occasion what many of us we tried play with the Blink Queensboro on a football field. Oh always always been as called professionalism much that is professionalism. No Creek said that that the the hurricane hasn't been shot recently and not be as oh because both both challenges that people have seen it in the completely wrong if he's he's burst sharpest and focused then he gets the timing correct and he gets his bally's well but two francs point if he's he's not playing the ball he's not looking to then. Take the ball and shoot. He realizes he's not sharp enough as Craig said. I'm not going to be able to get a shot off here so I'm GonNa put myself in a position. Where maybe I can get the referee. They call the penalty for me that makes it worse on the defender because a guy he's not going through on the goalkeeper. He's he's not gonNA throw myself on the ground trying apparently right. He is always happens when the striker is either holding the ball through a play or is facing away from goal and that's called professionalism extra time available on our youtube channel. Show second <music> out says always we addressed you'll tweet over the last day of quantifies in this period <hes> <hes> you're right twenty twenty qualifying match as you've got to take on Czech Republic England by hosted concerts of Mary's while Luxembourg against Serbian Lithuania Portugal go on David Turkey France Andorra and find. You've got Clarence Planet Wimbley weeds. It is weird could the sleep at night knowing but we'll try out bass. We'll be back tomorrow till then combined <music>. Welcome into extra-time. Thank you for your tweets Frank Leboeuf his hair frank well. He's not here yeah now. He's string. That's point Friday. Will you step down. It is I'm here. You're going to know that let's all know he's right fusion. Franklin perfuse on the show who is AH football player Frank Zindedine sedan or Cristiano Renaldo. Oh my God well. I would love to say my fellow compatriots because I think he's a fantastic Larry but if you look at the trophies fees awarded the Renaldo Won- and the land of his career at the top level have to say Cristiano Renaldo a <hes> I'd rather play with that was very pleased. I played with Dan because he was somebody who could give you very good ball that he was also defending but it comes off of winning trophies of again the length of a carrier to several now but what about frank obvious peek at his very best. Renou is very best. Who would you want to play with Z Z. Dan Remember two thousand six quarterfinals against Brazil Roseville was flying. The only Brazilian on the field was incident as simple as that Stephen it really is a moral revel club for now though is incredibly fantastic but as an old room football player thinks I'm a veteran I wanted to win. Games atop Renaldo Motif writes all the time get not football player a wanted to win games much no the question about fighting yeah yeah that does overhead cakes all the year for T- done when we played from from Clinton as game from Franck and I had to the world yeah we gave France a real good five minutes. Another five wasn't particularly good but no Saddam it was an unbelievably talented clip and then today winning games and for wanted to win a game right. I'd have Rinaldo the team I think I'd have done passing the ball to Rinaldo and I'd have a pretty good team <hes> Mudi else with who asked him whether you ship was pyo ball depre- Does TV new whoa soon across the fastest sprinter speed for buying last seen off. That's not a chance of a question for Casey. What are the best. US Men's national team how sorry what what was the best years men's national team and will it take it takes to get us back to that level reading very difficult sometimes because me my name's John. Let's go to twelve this is John was the world cups in the best world. Cup Team got the best results no no question about it now wearing the result which is the you know not in the business results in that team was able to come together at the right time and get the results that they need at the same time that team needed a little luck it was. I think five minutes before at the end of the first round we're out of World Cup and then because results went the way they went Korea getting a goal against Portugal Portugal getting a couple of guys <music> off then and because of the result we drew Mexico in the round of sixteen as opposed to Italy so it was that the years do you use as to beat Mexico correct no pills out there. Sometimes it is. It's those little things that just go your way to to get things going. I thought ninety eight. We had a good team a very good team but just internal disaster. What would they say. What will it take to get it back to that level then module one tier well yeah well. I mean in the end you need players playing at the level that when you look at those squads and you look at that you had a good group of mls guys who were then fighting to get themselves to the next level you had a group guys that had either started them alas and got to the next level or Yep. It's that balance right. It's having America's always going to have a little bit of a different setup than a lot of the other countries. It's just what we have to deal with combine that with there was a lot of guys on our team. You had a lot of chips on their shoulders. They told Oh you're American. You're not good offer all show you. I'm not good enough. Here's my opportunity and we over cheap. We've got results because we had a good amount of team spirit. We had some great athletes on the field and was shocked some people <hes> and I think it's going to take a combination. Shen of getting some guys once again challenging themselves at the highest levels getting getting a squad together that that understands what it means to play for your country and how to go out there and against all odds fight. I remember remember having a conversation with a with one of Frank's old teammates cherry on read just saying I knew when I played against the US it was going to be tough. I knew we were better. I knew if we competed. We're GONNA win but if we didn't step up and give everything we had we're GONNA get. There was gonNA be scratching biting. Exactly what Stevie was saying about Scotland that was what the US had they had that we all show you. I know you're playing lane for this team and get chip on your shoulder and it's GonNa be tough because once you lose that yeah it's real hard to get back. It's fun appoints frank frong franck flavor it post match. We owe to eight after after a hard fought victory first beer of the the meal Neil yes. Yes we used. That was the meal so I there's no so yeah after veal scallop in Collini are you on the <hes> Frankie Frankie. We used to go in the we used to go into lounge at CHEO. CNN L'Ecole the boys dead respect ah they don't do that anymore. Chelsea duty or reverse the clubs now. It's not a family club anymore the athletes they don't drink alcohol. I guess we love that. We love that after the game just sharing some good times together sharing affordable defeat did you just whisper made to try and beat so shooting spoil them soon. Isuzu the Monitor. We're putting nauseam. Forest is a two and a half a Bush rate but we can tell that story then funny show nor do. I say I love how he always asks you if he's going and he stopped it was all right the the worst thing. It allows you to ask them to call it. Being the ball right as you one for the whole issue is the radius of the day before preemptive on the way down to the gate thought on that we all the we bought oh cases by by train on the frame said that got me wondering if we get a couple of creates on I'm the boss for the way he said the far is it from Nottingham Liverpool a couple of he went if somebody but he can't wait a couple of OC I would be for the game I think they have. I went yeah. You're right. It was absolutely shall casey favorite post-match male celebrate the can go wrong. I usually try to take you've eaten healthy. You know before some of the building and just have a good a good slice couple slice. It's it's <hes> pretty pretty good iced pineapple on we go to the NFL and restaurant and there's a casual place in London with on the way home to north on the the hatchet. 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Two on Tri: Mexico's search for a head coach

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45:06 min | 1 year ago

Two on Tri: Mexico's search for a head coach

"Admits welcome. And Hello, the latest edition of three podcasts, skull mask. Sebastian Salazar with you. Good to be back man. It's been a minute. Well, you your claim me Mr. I can't get to Bristol is too boring. I don't wanna be here z. they only gonna get in trouble right-footer left-footed. You know, pretty good. My let, but I'm right foot is somebody said that they're so terrible what they're opposite foot. So yeah, bring out the right. He is. One of those moments brings a bashing down. It's about time we get you together, so it's good. It's good to see you back. Perfect timing. Right. Because we got these two dates coming up Costa Rica tomorrow in Monterey and then g in get it on the sixteenth believe I believe same night as the US national team. So. Tuesday to sixteen. You're right at the same night as the US place. Peru, not far from us wrecked here in Hartford, but we're not really gonna talk too much about those games or previewing them because after all they are what is our good friend and current interim manager to call them. Mellitus they don't really mean all that much. We look at the roster a little bit towards the end of the bigger fish afriad, much bigger fish to fry. I think the main areas on a focus on in this episode are one seems to be a bubbling controversy right now between a certain group of older veteran players within the national team picture act and the federation that some of those players are not in the group that's been called in for these two matches and people are making a lot of that will dive on that in a little bit. I want to put that off to the back end of the podcast because I feel like the most pressing thing right now is still the managerial, sir. What country are we talking about? Seasonings are all right. You do so much. Same thing and really could look all around Concha cath Costa Rica, just Howard stuff, my DASA who from mckie's, but really if you look all around Concha, Catherine, South America's well, there's a and maybe that's what's going on, right? There's so many open vacancy. It's a domino effect. People are waiting for maybe the first big domino to fall then up and we go. So I think maybe let's start as we often do here because we like to tell stories, give context that we do a little bit of a time line. Right. All right. Juan, Carlos Odie steps down July twenty seven years. So bummed I am so bombed out, but I think we have to knowledge that during that time there was quite a bit of discussion and back and forth as to whether he would stay or not. Correct. So it's fair. I think then to say that the federation probably had some if not all of its eggs in the j. c. o. ballot, I've been very, it's very honest take when you say they really thought they had him in the bag. Yeah, I think so. Because now that he's not in the bag, we see everything else that has happened to these. Named the interim manager on August twenty seven. That's a head of the two friendly games would y and the US men's national team game. We covered in Nashville a month after that st- timber, twenty. Fifth, I believe was the date. It is announced by the Mexican federation that they have been told by not that they have decided that this has made it known that the possibility of Duke reti taking over on a permanent basis, quote, impossible while Duca himself went on another network, not our network and pretty much said this to that network, and they filtered the news. So left the federation in a hard place where the only possible thing they had was respond to it so there they were and they kind of still are upset at Duca for the way he handled the situation the end of the situation which by the way he does nothing to the federation, he's doing them a favor. He extended his two games to six games. Doing them favor. He goes out and I guess those models, the ways he went about it are what really rub the federation the wrong way. I appreciate what you say Duca. There's not FM f anything. There's another question there in that is does Deaconess. Oh FM and Mexican football something. Let's save that for down the road. That's on September. Okay. You got my attention. Okay. September twenty. Fifth is when we find that out. And I think there's there's some other kind of -portant points about that. It wasn't kind of black and white with Duca when I took over it was a nano just interim. This would be his word stabbing in the back and all this. I was in Mexico just before for actually four the match. And then just before the US match, you got married for the fourth time to the same woman, the same woman clear. But you know, we did our wedding down, go, hey, I didn't pay for this one. So that was all momma dukes she, she picked up the tab. Sidebar. Totally distract me there. However, there had been kind of a an almost gradual warming with do I remember being down there and on the cover of walk down a little coffee shop there, and I'm saying, go you gun and they'd always had the west liberty and get your little newspaper on the record or whatever it was of the day. And I remember first articles I read were all about do Cup, kind of saying nano, not not fulltime, and then I remember maybe the Tuesday or Wednesday before that. I think it was a Friday night or there's a night match against the why came out in the title was CK it like, yes, God levels it open. He talked about the clause, right? That clause in his contract that could potentially free him from degrasse either way, the amount that they were talking to that clause astronomical is almost like a twenty million dollar between the buyout and what they had to pay for him. Recipes con contract his stat, here's yes, going to staff staff at an end as me Amy. All those were coming with them. The who's the coach ninety four, four. He's one of his closest confidants. Yes, it was quite a considerable amount of money that they were talking about. And so at that point, there's this warming and you start to think, okay, this is just, you know, usually when an iceberg cracks, it doesn't come back together. So I thought that was kind of the downhill slope that was going to lead us to taking over. And then all of a sudden that pivots there's another that's important here September twenty. First, it's when the FM Fs new president Yang. We said a very brief interview kind of a group session, and I think it wasn't whether I some event and he gives throws out this number. There's a couple of numbers. Twenty four is the overall number, but fifteen interviews, he says at actually the way he says it is quite interesting. At first he says, an extra Kato and then he almost corrects himself and he says Kingston, but since yellows, fifteen interviews face to face, right? And then he added that. There were another nine interviews that were done via telephone, twenty four. Now there was a math major, Spanish, twenty four, and I think that is kind of I think that's a fair time line of how we arrived at today where when this all started of Saudi resigns there were three names that within a week, pretty much jumped to the top of the list. Me right up. No specific order wasn't a top, right? No. Sorry yet. Certainly not. And this is not necessarily even based on reports just based on like public percentlre opinion, right. Behold Matias on that course. And there you go. Those were the three. And now we are sitting in a situation where they gonna be none of those three all uk-us out. Monte has just taken a job with the San Jose earthquakes and said no of the twenty four people they called. They didn't call me. The last conversation I had with that we saw was a long time ago and it was about group. So three most popular choices and has gone on record saying, I wasn't one of the twenty four interview. He was maybe on food won't become the thirty five thirty thirty five. You know, you go out there you go today being threes. I'm most who works for the Mexican federation x t who is now with with federation. They sent her out and said, young, Louisa Seto Cantu instead of close and said, okay, gotta vote Aldo. They sent her out to give a press conference today, the cowards that the federation are to send her out. Pechoux led her receive all the hits k. and she said, no, no, no, no, no. The process of finding new coach for that. He was advanced and stresses. There has been only twenty twenty four interviews, not twenty four candidates. So that means one candidate may been interviewed four or five different times so that Slim's it down because if you're telling me leave that if you usually, but then we would rather believe this, then there are twenty four better candidate. I don't care what you are made right, but then it'd be a it up and then what you would rather believe does not necessarily mean no. But if you're telling me there's twenty four candidate rather see instead of my on me, it blows my mind. The other names you mentioned are important because when the Lewis gives us interview, he mentions thought, although yet MLK onto any stay close as the guys leading this charge. So those are the guys that we believe are because that's what we've been told running the show on this search. I think we don't really need to go over it. It's pretty clear. It seemed a long time ago. He was very, very Adam. About wanting the job that suddenly went kind of radio silent. And now it's been clear that for whatever reasons he is not on the federal. It's worth noting that if Megan l. p. o. Herrera is not on the radar of the federation who is run by visa, we so close to how severed that possibility is absolutely. Visa runs a federation Debbie's that runs many. They are telling him you are not part of this. They went ghost on him. You know, me as very honest open person if they said you have no possibility, don't look. He'd say, I've been told this, he wasn't even. They didn't even not only did not call him to interview there. You go even call them to tell them thanks. But no, thanks. That's how severed it is. Yeah, I would have thought maybe it was the federation's desire ages to generally going to different direction, but also he speaking of Televisa here's a very valuable role to Levy right now. Head coach of mega matters to Levy. Lisa, you know, as we know with you on that, we says, past influences very heavily thing if not random these. Well, I was gonna say the federation runs federation, no, he wrandell visas. Oh, yes, right. But obviously the influence from Debbie through the federation, you don't need to connect the dots. The lines are drawn right there. Know, big black sharpie if you wanna put it that way. Duca we kind of know the story. Whatever reason he just doesn't seem to really, really want to push this to give them the job. You blame him, you know, I mean, I don't blame him. A job has already, and, and that's more. I don't blame you know what it is a Mexican national team coach. Do you know what it is to be good. Monterey, you tell me about the show, runs the show, but I'm talking about whoever is going to be the next coach. It's hell. You know what? The only thing you have guaranteed is you're going to get fired. You're going to get fire and your personal life is going to get dragged through the pay your and they're going to say, horrible every single thing you do the way you walk the way you talk, why this guy came in. Why that guy didn't come in? Why you decided to play here? Why you decide to do that? It is personal hell for these individuals very clear to me that didn't want it didn't want it. Never got off there, but the the final of those three candidates somebody we talked about on the last addition of the show, I believe I, I said he was my favorite or I really liked his candidacy. I don't know if I put him above two for me was a very, very, if not obvious choice. Obvious candidate, at least for an interview right candidate. If you are thinking at all about what the next men jer and the qualifications of the next manager to the Mexican national team should be my God. This guy's resume says, it's a no-brainer, pick up the phone and talk. And on top of that, he had very clearly without a doubt, and he has come out since his interview on actually said that this may have hurt his candidacy or he thinks of her come out after the World Cup and said, hey, I'm here and I want it. So in other another now works, he's done interviews and he's actually gone back and forth with other Mexican media members out of the shed. If not at the and it was like, here's the problem. It wasn't that you wanted. You were telling everybody wanted it not only this job, but the Columbia jump, but the Argentina jump, but the Paraguay job. I don't know how truthful those takes are, and I don't know even if you did that would harm them if they really wanted them because the biggest name right now on that list. Is Marino Marino on the extra on the outside the three that we've talked? Yes and Martinez playing this cat and mouse game between Colombia and the Mexican national team. And also angling Argentina comes about shirt, and that's not new godless. Society was same thing if you months ago was held today today, that's part of soda tilted today. Rumored of maybe leaving Paraguay just signed on November thirty. There you go. So these things are normal. We know what it is. He's being blacklisted. You're sure of that. I am despite Zach that both sides both he and the Jeeva side, you get come out and said, we're not interfering. Do you know why he's going the political route and. The back though, that guy yet he wants to keep the door open. He knows that if he goes to war with these guys, they will blacklist him for Mexican soccer forever. The two biggest teams. And you've said this many times not all teams created equal, not within the Mexican federal. Now there's talking about so so eighteen owners. Eighteen organizations have the same. What happens to the Mexican national team? All of them have the same power. There are two, what are they? She? She doesn't have many and why that visa and the other one is chief us for the brand. They represent who they are. Vada Guetta gotta is clearly on the outs in this picture and all the power is Louis. You gotta and my for whatever reason had this falling outs, supposedly. They were like they were best friends all work at certainly at the end, I think clashed yeah. And I think most with the money drying up, of course, we're being honest, I think Matias issues at Chievo are one hundred percent down to cheat US Bank. Well, not only that because when when he get made sporting decisions that affected the team who's the one that went against the player who went against was about who was it was my when my win against him, and he came out and said messianic model that I believe will I feel like the bad guy in the movie, and then he completed a one eighty. He's all about the player. This rub Chiba the in the worst possible way imaginable for him to go out there and all of a sudden support and stand by the player. And this is where this rift started happening in than our colleague. When he went there, he saw the writing on the wall, and he said. My leaves. I'm gone. Right. Can you were this was headed and a lot of people think that. Down that was brought in specifically to be almost a martyr? Yes, to be the one that they could then pit the blame to four, the leaving and its wing down a list of sporting directors for Chiba, and that's all they've been so says, they will stores. They just didn't. You know thing of tastes. They just didn't like me. You don't. You don't know. You don't think he was ever honestly considered as a candidate. I think he was blacklisted. To this day, he had other teams who were interested in them and it didn't happen within Mexico. So who knows if back the heroes went down was that deeply rooted were not even loner, but Yuka who was interested in could get by that back. So this then opens up. Penn Dora's box if you will. Right now, the guy you thought you were going to keep us Odio gone. The popular choices gone one of which you named an interim manager with the hopes of convincing him. There you go to become the permanent coach gone. I think we're not at plan b here for the federation. I think we're at plan c, and that's why I tend to actually believe they may have. They may have called twenty four people because I think there is now somewhat of a desperate scramble. So let's go really quickly to if we name those names. We only have so much time. It's the most obvious I ever Dino besides that it was Marcelo look. And all of a sudden they're like, wait, he wants eleven million dollars. Yeah, he that's not gonna happen. I guess for me, I never once I saw him sign with leads. I kind of took him out of my pool, but yes, you're right. He had been named and apparently the way they get to dis through the. Yes, right. They say, are you don't want the job, give some people that can do what you do and we'll go from there. And he pointed out Martina. At an unpaid ADA who broke the so adamant about it. He's doubled down on his comments and people in Atlanta may say, this is not happening, but there's something there and he's denied it the night at the night and talking about that. And now all of a sudden you hear elsewhere and he's well, why wouldn't I want to coach national, be softening up to the idea. Something's gonna happen soon. They got the my Yoda got the flu begun. Did broke the news that within the month of November, the coach will be announced for the Mexican national team, which is interesting. Yawn Louissant September twenty. I said, days or weeks. That's what nineteen days ago at this point. So we're now at the weeks part of that go. So if he thought they were close, it certainly wasn't days. It's now turned into weeks and if we're not going to get to to November now that's become months. So that that tells me there's a my favorite word gone wins. All right. If you're saying you think it's going to happen and then it doesn't happen till three months. What what happened in in. In that in that Saul twelve weeks or so weeks. That would be his answer, right? So I guess we can. We can dive in on Datta. He certainly gotten some my think. I don't know support from that from the actual player pool Santos who would have crossed with him at Barcelona had some pretty flattering things to say about him Chook and Guti also kind of said, yeah. Which I find interesting that they asked the players like fear player, really weird spot. They're gonna talk bad about my future coach. I don't know if you know don't do that, right. So maybe we should take all that stuff with a grain of salt, right? Surprises me about all. This is not that that the Martinez name is is is out there because it's totally valid name. He's coached the Argentine national team, the Paraguay national teams, coach, Barcelona's, coach, all types of different levels have different types of football, and he's been successful. It's the outpouring of negative. Just comments and opinion about that. Marino and Mexico. I was overwhelmed. The Mexican press people would think the public and the press. I thought, overall perception, I thought the Martino, here's a winner. Here's somebody that we definitely want. They don't want him. It mind. Part of that I think is because my that is hovering over him that cloud about this. Now that San Jose took that out of the picture. Screams of competence by the ration-. It's grains of a little bit of ignorance all public or the on me that and now dot the the ignorance parts, but it's never pleasing crowd when it comes to depress and the public in Mexico because no matter who you pick, right, it's going to be the wrong pick, right? I mean some of the names autism, Bali beckerman Mohannad was named beagle w mentioned that that he had had some type of contact with before he resigned. Yes, Peru, Louis, hang all dodge the bullet there, and I want to circle back to him in just a minute because it's league, it's not him, but something he said and kind of how it fits in here. But what you see, I think I think what I'm correct me if I'm wrong. What I, what I believe I'm starting to see is. I think the federation and I'm not saying this negative is turning its back on the Mexican slash Mexican connected candidates. I think how this is going to end up and I think fits into this mold. I think we're going to have another spin Gorn Erickson hire somebody with and I'm not comparing the two guzzle soda that though. Yes. Soda well, but no, and I'll tell you why he had coached in Mexico before when spend Goerner came to Mexico, somebody who had no connection to the Mexican game, I think spend goran-eriksson failed primarily because he didn't take the project seriously. I don't. I don't believe. I think he had a huge lack of understanding of what Mexican game was about and the players involved. Okay. But there's also a time where that was a generational ship was a huge resistance. The the way he worked, it was unheard of. It was the athlete's performance that he brought in who would never been in Mexico as performance are the physical trainers are used professionalism, maybe a way to put his actly, how we manage our bodies isn't the Mexican way is what you would always here. And I've heard it from Mexican players top legends, like those punches. When I was those, I seen someone sort of who we are. It's not how we work, and that would be the excuse the resistance when Bennett. Okay. Seeing came in to Santos to the new methods. And a lot of that it was gore and Erickson was a head. Regardless of your opinion of gore Ericsson a lot as methods were not. We're not apt for the time being in Mexico. And so what this brings me to is. We always talk about this in the context of the World Cup at Kean, dope art, Mexico's glass ceiling. And if I look back as just. If I look back at this air that we talk about ninety four on what you see is a bunch of coaches selected outside of San Gournay Rexon even soda had the tie having managed boy, right. Right, right. So so there was a tie there. He was familiar in some way. With the region as well. Not only Mexico. The federation has always gone back to comfortable familiar coaches who know the Mexican game. And as we look to trying to what are the things that stay the same over this twenty now almost thirty year span where Mexican soccer cannot at the world stage get past the round of sixteen that the managerial pool continues to be capped in many ways with people tied to Mexico this idea that you must know the Mexican player. I say that ne'er quotes for those who are listening on the podcast. We talk about this frequently with the United States. What is the air American player? What is the air quote, Mexican player? What is the airport attitude of the Mexican player that I seen almost all right now, how long does which is arrogant if you think about it that way of thought because the Mexican player has evolved so much for talking about the Jenner. Nation of the scientific, what they will bland goes to see us to the generation of the knows that Sherry and this the good dare is the Miguel Hyun. They're different players, different mentalities. So in that case, as much as I at first originally was was extremely excited about the candidacy in the resume of at the on Mehta. The other reason I just quickly get that. I liked him as I think he he showed with pragmatic approach that I've seen the last podcast I think Mexico needs more of. I think this chest out to do with the big boys always ends up the same thing who almost Neum now. So so I think some humility and some humiliate the threat words, just some some, some self-awareness, some self awareness, and some willingness to be more pragmatic thinking truly have to be more pragmatic. I know that personal take on that. I just wanna manager with a pragmatic club in his golf bag. He doesn't have to be more in Cuando. Soda was pragmatic. I mean, despite the seven. Oh, scorelines the four ones to Germany's of the world? No, I think in his biggest moment where he needed pragmatism Sweden, he didn't use it. And so to me, then he was not pragmatic and go back to the to the Mexican way of thinking, and it's no matter what it will never be good enough because it's when you don't do it. Why don't we go to for to, you know, we can do it and why don't you go that Chica. You're never gonna please. And this goes not just to the point. This goes for everybody. That's just the way fans are the way we are fans, and I'm going to remove myself from the soccer discussion. But when I think about basketball or football, when I'm raiders fan, you know, why don't they do this. It's just it's just hot air. That's all it is. So I start to think, okay, maybe this is great because Mexican soccer doesn't need another voice. Air quote knows Mexican soccer. We've done that time and time and time again. And we end up in the same incredibly frustrating spot. And then I thought, well, let's look at because this is another thing we've talked about. Mexico has underperformed at the World Cup has failed at the World Cup, even either leave given the level. And that's not to say that Mexico should be in the semi-finals every World Cup competing for the title I'm asking for a quarterfinal and you look at some of the countries that have reached Saudi semi mine. Yeah. And you say, well, these, if Mexico Mexico understands if we understand as Mexican fans as the Mexican supporters of the national team or people who follow it, where Mexico fits hierarchy, not Brazil. We're not there right. We aren't really more in the. South Korea lot. Right. That's in back. You could South Korea and say, hey, we got more new. We'd been semi-final Garnett was on home soil, but. Mexa let's get your neighbor to the north. There you go. The United States can hold their hand and say, look, we're more than Mexico. So that's the neighborhood you're in and you're not in your Inca Costa Rica, same thing you weren't that you are in the neighborhood. You're not in the best neighborhood in town. If I'd say here with El Salvador and financeable, no, not not. That neighborhood have believe in eighty two seller. Actually. What how do they do to them trying to think if they, if they made it, they made it didn't get past the group sage. I think those the guy in my all on. It doesn't matter, but you're absolutely right. But when I started looking at those teams. They did not in their great moments of success hire from within South Korea to the semi-finals in two thousand two who was their manager goose hick hitting no contact in any way with the South Korean game before that seemed to work pretty well. I'll give you another example with goose heating. He takes Australia in six, ten. I'm not sure I think wasn't. Oh, ten. Okay. Ten. Okay. So that was South African that in doing okay, so six and they get out of the group as they make it to the second round. We'll hitting had no attachment to the Australian game before that no knowledge of it, Ghana. Do you know this one very well could have been in a semi-final in two thousand ten ham Bava swat. It's right, but made it to a quarter-final. ARCE, Mexico, Ghana kind of the same neighborhood? Right. I know they'd beat us. I was there. Sorry, their coach Mito von serving? No prior contact with the with the gun in game. We can go to Costa Rican twenty fourteen hotel Louis Pinto. He actually had been the coach of the manager of Costa Rica before very short stint. But other than that, no attachment, no managerial experience. At the level, I'll give you one from now Belgium. Two thousand eighteen Roberto Martinez Marquette's please. Martin is Martin as. Anthony's. He had managed Romeo Luko at Everton on that no ties to the Belgian game and look where he gets Belgium to a place. Look at that. You can use it anywhere. You want those figures because if you say, well, hold on a second, give me a World Cup manager. That's that's foreign. That's one eight World Cup when I'm not talking about winning this talking about and used these things anyway, you want, you're talking about putting Mexico now in that other in the elite neighborhood and they're not there yet. I'm talking about Belgium, Costa Rica, Ghana, South Korea, Austrailia. Those teams have found success at the World Cup not by hiring from within. But from thinking outside the box and hiring outside of not opposed to view of implementing new ideas, fresh ways of thinking of working, you know, all these different things that's fine. I think for Mexico, it's much deeply rooted. It's beyond the manager. It's the personnel a hand. That's why you can't get past because the day you have more than thirteen players who are actually. Playing in European top-flight but will actually playing. That's when you can compete. And we're not just talking second round because he's second rounds, like you said, are one because South Korea's Sweden's these turkeys of the world, these Bulgaria's they don't always make a one off. Mexico hasn't had his one. That's one off situation yet, but for them to really be. What's the word that I'm seeing transcend? Yes, to break through this glass Dedi do it. It will be with the player personnel, not the management. I think managers matter and tournaments, and we're talking about tournaments, we're talking about guys figuring out what to do with the pieces in front of them in a one off. I gotta think managers matter in that tactical battle personnel man is I did the US. Why did the US beat Mexico in two thousand and his Bruce Arena? I think Bruce Arena made some very critical out his look. You know exactly how I feel about Bruce Arena. You go back to what what that team was through the group face and look at the moves that he made in to the some changes before that round of Ashby were one one. In one, you're talking about one and one in group play, and if it wasn't because of loss of South Korea, the way they did did be out that's back home and make this slim, but you're making my point the team, not in Bruce Arena. It was a personnel a hand. You look at the markets. Busy could have played how many World Cups. Ask anybody asking that was a part of that Gopal he could have been about Landon Donovan. Paula muster on one of the best goalkeepers. I don't wanna talk with the frigging what I'm talking about. I understand. I understand what you're saying. When I'm telling you is talk talk to the people that were on that were in that group, and you know a lot of them and there were some specific differences from how the US lined up against Mexico to what they had done in the group face. I think those differences surprise have yet on, and I think he did not react in time. So I think both his shortcomings and Bruce Arena's maneuvers and just you make a good maneuver doesn't make you a great coach, but fruits. Marine revenues maneuvers in that moment are one of the key reasons. The US won that game against Mexico and mate and transcended beyond what they were able to. I know what you're trying to get in management. You should have different ideas in a different way of thinking. Listen, odds are that if you have a good manager, he's going to do. Good things with percents has a hand, but this Mexican team, this country will never transcend the way wants to. If the players are better, it's very simple and they're getting, they're you're seeing more and more spread out overseas. There's there's players right now playing overseas who aren't even getting calls. Right, right. So you said call ups, I think we could go on this coaching thing for a lot longer, but unfortunately, we are kinda short on time here, and I think there's another thing that we talked about top of the show that we really need to get to. And that is what seems to be a fracture between the leadership and say leadership within the players circle hierarchy? Yeah, the hierarchy and the federation there, four names that have have been brought up in this y. G chatty, throw a lion actor Moreno, right? Kind of four key guys. There's a fifth in there. It's Chacha that has as well and give it on hit a colleague of ours in the press works. ABC on. I think he was the first person that I saw on the sister company Televisa. There you go who runs the adoration? This story that that that he told his that basically, and I'm paraphrasing here. The federation feels as though the animals have been running the farm, and he pointed out a very specific instance. There was a press conference to be done before the World Cup was scheduled for certain players and on the day of or just before the press conference. The players went to the federation's. We're not going to do it on less XYZ held the federation, hostage federation probably in that moment had to acquiesce to some of those, but wants to put moving forward very clear rules in place. And the federation wants to have guarantees from some of these players that they will play by those rules moving forward do as I say exactly. There's. Also, I think, and this is. Kind of makes sense. And we talk about this as well with the US team, some desire to keep. The young generation from the old generation, right? So that the habits, the behaviors of these leadership generation on get passed down, don't get passed down. Okay. What habits are we talking about the in disciplines that things that we saw for have up in some ways. Right. I think from the players standpoint, they're probably sitting here saying and. And I, I would feel this way as an employee you are, you're punishing me for speaking up federations perspective, and I'm not in any way suggesting that this is right is we're asking you to be more. So what are your journalistic colleague say that they don't want to come? They are saying they don't want to come. The reports had been that those guys had asked not to come. You go. Now there have been contra contradicting reports that have said that those guys were not asked to come, and I think that's the truth. And I think that's what we're gonna just wanna mention one more report from Nico, lateral my for Monteclaro and it's important here. He says, no, when I'm just saying that the federation indeed has has chosen not to call in these players as opposed to the player saying, no, there was a tweet of the segment that Nicole did on Twitter. Do you know who retweeted it who memo jaw he's important, isn't it? Yeah. And one of those guys that would fit into that leader. Okay. Group. Now. Know I'm well-connected berry. There we go. That's your sources. Okay. Let's go back to league mckee's back to the car. Gyros all this going on where they form players association. No, we're not playing this week and they forget what we could was could have been eight or nine. I think it was nine numbers that sits. We're not playing this week unless you eliminate l. back to the car gyros obviously about the caveat is not a said, rule, unspoken, understanding understanding that you don't go poaching players even if they aren't under contract that you still own their rights. It basically eliminates the idea agency for American fans of free. There you go. You're not gonna compete against each other for these guys. Who were the main proponents, who are the main guys speaking up to in order to get, they don't even play league. I make it was selects unanimous the European to European, yes, before his legal issues Rafeh was the face of that movement on now by the way on the other side. Yeah, right. So it was running those of the world by the way. Let's keep in mind. Why don't. The only guys that can speak the guys in Mexico. Canton, what other injured been sick? Okay. So it's not like they're saying, no, don't call me up to get rolled up literally. Got hurt locker, right? Okay. So here we go. You do this or we're not going to play on national team level was a rumor being heard, and supposedly they fixed. They went to the players. They got it done. We saw moist yells the now retired goalkeeper go before us on national television almost with the federation like aren't arm-in-arm saying, we've got this resolved where so happy. How many of the national team players to those mega Hyun she though I chat you or what he meant is how many of these guys came out and said, I'm so happy. We did this. This happened. You want how many zero? You wanna know why nothing changed. Liz l. Devo as they say, okay. This is a collective bargaining that they wanted to happen that did not happen, and now it trickled over to the national team. Now explain to you why back in quick story back in two thousand and twelve, I was a player percent those, and I was also playing for the US men's national team in that. Remember a player for the Mexican national team asked me, hey, how much did you guys make per game? And I said, well, it depends if we play a top ten opponents or Mexico. Or it's a World Cup qualifier versus any country happens to be a World Cup qualifier in in what ever level of that work of qualified pre Hecht's heck's, whatever may be. We get sixteen thousand dollars per game. The look on his face, the blood drained, what you guys we, we get two thousand dollars. Wow. I said what? By the way, they're filling stadiums way more than the US. You kidding me. They're marketing a lot more marketing dollars. He then asked me about the marketing dollars on the US site. You know how much they get for those marketing dollars. Zero like an appearance, your appearance. So Banamex beam, MO, all these different companies, whereas you go do something for AT and t. you get paid. Yeah, it's another hell that you've told me not only do you get paid then, but the moment you qualify, they do Kate it on the national. They're trying to collect or at least establish a collective bargaining agreement that's justified around the world. So they're not being taken advantage of right now, the devils making that money and when they spoke up there like, you know what? We got this in the, but they leaked the story. Left your leaker story. Make an guys look out to be deals like money, hungry, bad guys. When they're the ones, reaping the profits when they're the ones putting these things on these imposing these stupid rules and obligations on these players. So when you see the main guys in the federation, getting treated this getting blackmailed this way, and you're younger guy like an egg Gutierrez, where does that leave you? What do you do now? Here's the problem. Here's the problem. This may happen and work this time. But you think these Waigels and they're not in the states right now, but the next time they're in a states. If you don't get these players in to think these sponsorship companies, these companies thrown out, these millions of dollars are going to be happy. Whereas my shuttle, I need him in LA. I need him in New York, hey, I need him in Atlanta. They're the guys have some power here. I think they have some power and right now they're trying to be blackmailed into folding before it gets worse. The federation knows it's time to cut these guys in at an appropriate level. I know what people are going to say they make plenty of money. No, no, no, no. As a worker as a employee lay as labor, you have labor rights doesn't matter what level income you have. This goes beyond anything we're seeing right now. This strikes me as classic labor versus management stuff. And when no entertainment find strong leaders within labor what happens, they can either negotiate with them or they can freeze them out. They cut the head off the snake, and that's what they wanna feel like this isn't the inlets for a second, and it's easy for the federation to do this sorry to cut you off because all these guys on paper, you could make the case part of the process anymore faded out of the process, but you still need to get there. Right. And these still in the Andor stand the value that these players bring in sooner. Rather than later these marketing dollars these companies put up, they're gonna say, hey, where my guys now really quickly just put things in perspective, spin going on long before we were around. If you go back to the, then we'll Blanco years Blanco mistime. He's asked not to be part of concentration. Okay. Would love would be he didn't wanna be part of what got him was getting married, two thousand seven after the Mexico loss to the US. He didn't wanna go America. He didn't go to the said, I'm too tired ago by many got heating, go. Was it gotta though? Saudi didn't go. It was a monarchist who wins who didn't play third place game because he wanted to go to the wedding. He didn't go got those Vela decide to go to preseason what associate that and now go to the the with the national team. This has been going on for years and years and years. But this is the first time that the players spoken up well, but in those cases, the players are the ones choosing not to grow and they had no issues with it. Then while we're talking about the federation doing something sources said, these players asked for the first game not to be part of it because it was post World Cup and they were trying to stylish themselves on their team every game after that, they wanted to be part of it. They've been shut out this go around somehow and I use air quotations. Leaked the information was leaked that didn't date denied these call-ups that is not true. I will get make one more point here before we send off because I know you've got one hundred other shows to do today because it's. Labor-management again. The report he mentions keeping the young players and the older players away from each other classic management strategy. What is this dictatorship? But they your separate and you know, it's divide and conquer, conquer your neighbor. It is classic classic and you're gonna get me all my crazy liberal tangent, but it is classic management stuff will leave the rest of this for another day. I know you gotta run. I know we didn't really get into the roster, but you know what you want to do another one post game. Yes. Would you another one maybe post second game plus the second game, what we'll get kind of the tape of of the two games. We'll get together some Margarita. GLA will go over the roster what we'd like. We didn't like and we'll we'll address a few more things because there's another point. This'll be the teaser for the next show. The reason I wanted to bring up Louis van Gaal, why the reports were they called his people and they say, hey, can we call Louis about the job? And he said, don't even call me. I'm not interested. The question that arises to me out of that is as we talk about an hour, you're going as we talk about pivoting our attention from Mexico connected managerial pool to the international managerial pool to that pool, how enticing actually is the Mexican national team job a discussion for the next episode of on three use the hashtag. If you use it, we will find your commentary and we will be back next Wednesday, like shirt. That's for those of you watching a little Pooh that Cuevas shirt that I picked up while I was down in Mexico. I got you onto, but apparently it was way too small. Your wife yet. It's actually a little small for her. Oh, man, it's what you wear too. 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Germany's woes continue

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Germany's woes continue

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Most of the run a play for the first half hour, however, Virgil ban dight makes it one, nothing Netherlands in the thirtieth. Yeah, it's just being in the race Pont the right time and then we'll Neuer gets himself in no man's land. Original header off the crossbar mandates. They're dots nearly get a second in the thirty four Brian bottle just can't apply the finishing touch to touch for post otherwise in the back of the net. The chance here for on Sunday didn't start just with this one. Why just comes on into sub with a great opportunity. You would have done bury this and it's going to even in the Dutch you're going to be panicking going in, but when it doesn't and then it all hone germy start looking forward to find an equaliser bad turnover. Eighty six minute leads to this campus pied finish. Just one of those situations where you have a lot of numbers for trying to find nickel. I promise comes in, run by the sets up the by Utah was gonna hit it the first time, but did lex to pull it back. But. Another opportunity shortly after yet, that's not done the pied off the woodwork. Really got kind of embarrassing late for Germany. And Holland just kept pouring and on Kenya went all them had the third, the German defence, basically, we're that, well, you got to look at the perspective of where it's at an injury-time. You're already down to nil you conceded the second. I don't worry too much about that except for the scoreline when you look at it without watching the match, you think, oh, wow. Holland really took it to Germany and it really wasn't the case, but Germany, something is seriously going wrong and that side. I mean, what is it? Can you put your finger on it? This is now the third straight game they've gone without a goal. This is a team that get bombed out of the World Cup. What's up with Germany. I think so often you see a team that has had as much success as Germany and had in a in a length of time, and nobody comes into changing thing to in it up to keep it going. Even if you looked at the sun, we were talking about this game when when the side was announced, what is. Be loved change from the team that the did so poorly in the World Cup. It's really the same squad at some stage. You gotta make some changes in. There's obviously some reasons why they're not getting the results and something's got to change. And if you'll be love, doesn't change it quickly. It's going to be him that's going to be the person. I mean, how close did we do that? It seems like he's got an awfully long leash. It doesn't seem to be that the German federation is going to have some kind of quick trigger reaction here. They certainly didn't have to the World Cup. They didn't, and I think they were giving him the benefit outs, descent, hey, maybe this is a little blip. We have good players we can get this right. Well, the haven't got it, right. They do have good players and we know they have a good crop of young players as well, because it confederation Cup, two years ago. Everybody rolled everybody with their under twenty three's. So you would think that there would be these young players coming through and they'd be given the opportunities? Well, that hasn't been the case in. It's one. Kind of losing having a blip. But when you get rolled up by your kind of your biggest rival in the Netherlands, then it's, there's going to be some pressure at home. You say, I don't know if you if you're watching the game, the reaction in the German fans after the game, just kind of screaming and throwing stuff, and they're not accustomed to this. Oh, well, I think it'd been sixteen years. Yeah, two thousand two. Yeah, you're right. The last time that the Dutch beat Germany. Yeah. So it's it's not very happy German fans. What about specifically the case of LeRoy son? This is a guy who's left out of the World Cup left out of the starting eleven for this match. What am I missing? Well, I I don't think we really know. They're obviously is something when he goes into the German squad that just rubbed Yogi loved the wrong way. And he doesn't see him as the team guy or the or the. You, it's kind of one of those situations that you know there's something going on behind the scenes. It's not just ability. It's not just planning and also there's always a little bit too. I think when you're a young player and you left Germany early, it's a little bit of, well, we're, you're, you're kind of over there. We're not really paying much attention to you, but there's something definitely going on behind the scenes, Germany right now, last place in their group. Could you see them getting relegated? Could you see them leave beat group Bill, let's be honest. No, but but the the World Cup winners. If you're last, you're down. Well, that's a reality for Germany, right? Thought we'd be saying that, but that's part of this kind of format with only three teams in when you put a lot of good teams together. Look, we know Holland is struggled in the last few years. We know that they haven't been the team that we've expected. But at the same time, we know they always have a group of talented players coming through, and it's just a matter of time before they get. Going again, you come across France side that just won the World Cup. You then have a German side that had won the previous World Cup, but now a struggling to try to figure out that next new identity. And this is what happens. You find yourself in a little rebuilding situation, and you find yourself relegated from the nation's league group. I know the match maybe wasn't three, nothing if you watched all ninety minutes of it, but the Dutch back, no. What did you say that you say it south or Tatum because even three, nothing win against Germany. Nah, it's a, it's a one, nothing win against Germany until injury time Germany's throwing numbers forward, and Germany should have at least found an equaliser after the Dutch wet one. Nil. If they're not back, it's at least a sign of, I would say, significant progress. There's definitely some hope. I think there's some hope within the the Dutch fans that the there's. Brighter things coming hope for the Dutch crisis for the Germans, and it's not going to get any easier for Germany up next for them in UEFA nations league play France. That's right. Two forty, five PM eastern time. You can watch it on ESPN plus streaming live on the ESPN app. Geico presents eyewitness interviews with inanimate objects. This is Belinda Collins live on the scene of a recent health store here to describe the event of football, bro. I was just hanging on the roof. When this gnarly storm starts dropping baseball sized hail. The shingles got beat up a few windows broken. It was savage. Did you do anything to help, bro? I was in survival mode. Your football can't help you in a hailstorm, but the geiko insurance it can see can help you get covered for personal property damage, call gyco to see how a forcible homeowners insurance can be Friday night action. Two major league soccer's Western Conference l. AFC and the Houston dynamo. I thought it. It never rains in LA, right? Apparently it does here thirty third minute Boniek Garcia. The model mono. Us and he's going to put it in the back of the net one, nothing Houston. Maybe not. The start LAF see was looking for, but they bounced straight back forty third minutes Carlos Vela. Rounds Tyler, Derrick, Derrick called for the penalty. Look pretty clear. No Casey, yeah, it is and then they're going to, they're going to go have a look. But if you see, Dirk, doesn't get contact with ball, catches the leg steps up, finesse. He did in the World Cup against South Korea, converts from the spot. Really no doubt about it though. It doesn't an excellent job. Just tucking inside netting. Dell EMC aren't finished. To Adama diamante to one l. AFC. We'll talk about just in nice past originally from Rossi and then into Vella villages, whipped it across the six fellow one assist. He finds a second here, Walker Zimmerman, the Molly. You would expect Walker Zimmerman to winning ahead or not exactly the best marketing from the Houston dynamo of Walker Zimmerman from the penalty spot is hitting it with his feet, but take nothing away from the finish from the big man. Now, secret either Zimmerman, pretty serious threat on corner kicks all season, long seventy. Eighth minute l. a. c. on the break. Perfect, pass from Bella long, touch from Diego Rossi and Bella the chip with his right. You bet you four one couldn't Afon any better. Automated. That is just too much Rossi with the poor. I touch tethered. Derek does a good job of coming out, but it falls straight developed and it's a classy finish from the Mexican two goals. Two assists for bell on the night. Houston, get a late goal here and to Wang or to make it four to the game was pretty much over by that stage. But Houston keep trying. Commander gets a consolation, but all three points go to l. AFC and they go charging up the table. Absolutely. Trying to get in those top two spots, the Western Conference so they can avoid that first game of playoff. Let's talk about the postseason with l. AFC when we talk expansion teams in MLS we always go back to the ninety eight Chicago fire. Do you see anything in this l. AFC team that suggests they can not only win the west, but maybe even win MLS Cup? Well, they've been consistent throughout the year. They've got. Big players performing obviously velit at the top of the heap. But I think they're a little bit too suspect defensively. I don't think they're tight enough. I it times they're just conceding too many goals, and I think you need to be more consistent defensively. I don't know if they can kind of shut things out defensively. They're just we're gonna Tak. We're gonna score goals. We're going to be entertaining, and I think in the playoffs when you're having two legged ties you do you. You can't afford to concede, for example like that. That second goal because that could be the difference in a two legged tie if you go through or not. He had two goals the other night, thirteen. Now on the season to go along with twelve assists. Are you surprised at how good Carlos Vela has been and I'm LS. No, not at all. I think I think Vela came in because he wanted to come in. I think sometimes if if a player isn't ready to leave Europe and he kind of thinks that maybe I'm gonna come home because I'm being I'm getting a great offer wherever he was excited to come to l. a. f. c. and everything I'm hearing from the l. AFC camp from the very beginning of preseason is. He sets an example every day out at training. And I think when you are able to do that in your not only just showing up to play games in a draw for your crowd, but when you're actually taking it seriously and doing things the right way every day out, you're going to perform because obviously has the talent and when he and we've seen that with a lot of with a lot of big name signings MLS if they come in and they do things the right way they're successful and villa has is done exactly that. I think the only team in Major League Soccer to score more this season is Atlanta United, so it's not just Carlos Vela. What about Diamant? I mean, he's been amazing since join hanging out twelve goals in something like sixteen games while the one nice thing about l. AFC is they're not dependent on one person. They know they, they can spread it around a little bit. And India Monday has been a perfect, you'll big target from being able to run get in. You saw him get on the end of the cross. You know, those types of things are really important, but I still going to go back to this LAF's. Team. There's been too many occasions where they've conceded four goals, five goals. I, it's just been that inconsistency in their team defending and I think that if they are going to go far in the playoffs, they're going to have to get that side of their game. Right. I know they can score goals, they know they can be have a lot of flare going forward, but can they defend the team? Does that surprise you about Bob Bradley team. But think sometimes when you're particularly an expansion team, your finding pieces and you're putting a lot of pieces together and maybe you don't have that time to go. This piece needs to go here and we need to. They really went to be entertaining and attack, and and they have been and and it's proven that they've, as you mentioned the second most goals of any team in MLS. But sometimes that comes at a cost in the cost is that there if you spend a lot in one area of MLS, you know, you're not going to be able to to spend a lot in another area and and they, they've paid the price for it. Hell AFC still certainly doing some impressive work considering it is their expansion year. Chicken on African Nations, Cup qualifying action, Egypt and Swaziland. Why are we showing you this most Sala the goal, Olympic Casey. Thank you. Have a little bit of look if you go to come on his moment. The rare and they should be rare. I will. That's good news for south. Here's the bad news late in that she comes off with the pointedly a muscle strain. He's come back to Liverpool for further examinations. Turns out I report could be an injury, absence of two weeks. We check out Liverpool's next six matches. And honestly, Casey, if you were going to miss a stretch those first three games there at hundred field, he got Cardiff and then Red Star Belgrade mixing there in Champions League. That's a pretty good spreads to miss Sala fourth, you're living in and then if you can actually get back away at arsenal, at least in in some sort of ability to come off the bench and get back to full fitness after that. But no question, if you're gonna miss most solids, pretty nice, that stretch of games. All right. Let's change gears here a little bit. Some. I don't know if it's maybe surprising news, but I think in some ways, surprising Kyrie on rea- now fishery in charge at Monaco. This is a guy with no top level managerial exp. He's been the assistant coach, but this is a big job for somebody's. I shop even if you are Terry under you. Right. Well, it is a big job in sometimes you get that benefit of the doubt. If you're an ex player, granted, it was a long time ago. He played for Monaco, but you could tell, I think after he kinda return, I think it was a little bit of a surprise when he joined Roberto. Martinez is coaching staff for the Belgian national team. And then at that point, you kind of realized that he was pretty serious about getting into coaching and I bet he's probably surprises a lot of people that that the first chance he gets is with the club, the size of Monaco fairy are potentially in a relegation dogfight. It's a little early to be talking about, well, their eighteenth right now. I mean, it's start, but it's either way you have spot for him to go into when you were playing, but you're but look at this way said you're not going to go in there if they're at the top, right? You're not gonna go to somebody's not going to get fired. He was a contemporary of yours? Yes. Did you see him as a guy who might eventually step into mandates? It's difficult. I think if I never played against Jerry and I. New cherry off the field a little bit, but but not to the point where you know, we sat down and had dinners and talk, you know, some of my teammates you kinda, you knew because of the time you were with them when the way they analyze things that you thought this guy is probably going to get into management when he's done playing. I didn't. I never heard that about Jerry, but. It was pretty clear in the last few years that he was pretty excited about that fest you ever faced off against? Well, he's in the I faced off against a few people and and teary was definitely one of them in the Premier League as he is. He at the top of that list, he's in the shortlist definitely. I think you have to throw Dennis Bergkamp into that. I think you could throw Alan Shearer in there. You could throw canton. Aw, Ryan Giggs. There's some some players that really performed at a high level for a long, long time, and teary was obviously one of them. All right. Interesting to see how he does at Monaco. That's all the time we've got for Casey Keller on Sebastian Salazar. Thanks for watching this edition of ESPN FC and stay with us up next. It's extra time. Extra time in a moment, but first getting tickets online can be far too complicated hundreds of sites in varying levels of reliability. It's hard to know who to trust. That's why seatgeek is the way to go see millions of tickets into one place so you can easily find the seat you want for price. You're willing to pay. There's nothing quite like being there in person, and CDC will get you closer to the action for a great value is designed to make your ticket buying experience easier than ever and every purchase is fully guaranteed. 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Our friend Kartik oh, wants to know what are your views on giggle, Madonna's comments about via no messy saying the Barscelona star is not a leader, and I believe he was saying, you can't have a leader when a guys in the bathroom twenty times four game referencing some of messy pre-game nerves or habits or what have you, but what do you think did? What do you think of even to people actually listened to Maradona for more than just the sound bite? I mean, he's been doing a lot of interviews of ladies now managing the second division of Mexico. So he's getting a lot of wrong. Well, fantastic for let's look, obviously phenomenal player is and and still tremendous personnel. But I'm not really listening a lot of what giggle Maradona has to say when it comes to things like this. There's a part of it that that maybe Leonel Messi isn't the stereotypical captain leader of fun stuff, stuff like that. But you know, take nothing away. I mean, arguably the best players of all time, what would you might walk in your dressing room the code, but would you be action being coach? You gotta do whatever you gotta do when when when he? All right. But definitely you're taking a lot of stuff that he says with a grain of salt. That's for sure. Steven wants to know why. When people talk about the goat greatest of all time, they don't mention the goalkeeper. This is a tee up for you. Casey, who is your goat of the gloves? I think you have to look. I mean, it's I think with with any sport, I think you're looking at stuff that is generational Kentucky. For me as a kid. I was a big. Peter Shilton fan. I think Gordon Banks was probably ahead of. In the generation before that. I was a Tony Schumacher fan kind of in that stage and then further on. I mean, you looking at guys like, you know, more getting toward my contemporaries when you're seeing is like, you know, Peter Schmeichal and. I think. Then I think Peter check had a phenomenal run at one stage. And you know, I think, no, you're right now I don't. I don't think you can say this is the best person that I think there's been a lot of good goal up your contemporaries. You can't pick yourself. You have one myself, but you've got one match to win. Who do you pay right now? Sure. Right now I, I don't know. I know he didn't have necessarily the best game using for long time, but I still think Neue really. Okay. All right. Next question on Pete wants to know. Nor you're clearly looks out of sorts. Yet. Oh, Stegman. Sorry, my doesn't start also being lobbied out of team. Is this the time to get a whole set of management for German FA? I think new management is what he's asking about. I think on a hinted that and no, I think it is time and I agree with within with annoying part. I was a little surprised that they started Noyer in the World Cup. I thought you when you have a player like tear stagging it's not as if they have no other option, and no your had so little run up before that the whole Sikh's eight months of inactivity. Correct. And I think that's starting to creep in because a lot of time what happens is when you've been out injured for a while and then and then you come back, there's that instant adrenaline in, you're like, oh, wow, I have a Boston thing. I feel like I'm right here. And then after a few games, it kind of settles in a little bit. And and and no, you're is kind of going through a little bit of that right now. You thought when you have such a competent number two and tears in it made a great point to say, let's play. This guy, and then maybe that will motivate Noyer a little bit more to to get back to form. What about generally the idea of Germany? You know, they've been kinda think criticized for maybe how they didn't age out the past generation. When won the two thousand fourteen World Cup is that Spain was criticized exactly the same, but is that the fundamental issue with Germany or is there something more? Is it just they haven't recycled all the talent we saw in Fed Cup that hasn't come debts that I think that's a part of it. I think it's always important to continually be bringing new tone through when you see good teams in, and it happens a little bit easier sometimes club teams because you can go into the transfer market. But you'll hear them say that you always have to bring fresh blood into the locker room to really even to keep guys on their toes, keep stuff, fresh, keep it going because. You don't really know until it's too late right when that gets stagnant and you're like, oh, what happened? And then and then it's too late and then you get a string of bad results in some clubs here, you can't afford that in the most national teams. You can't afford that, and you'll be love is getting a big benefit of doubt. We'll see what happens here in the next couple of weeks, particularly. Let's say they take a number against France in a couple of days. Then you then you lose Holland Netherlands, and now you've lost to France. Yeah, then there's not going to be a lot of a lot of happy German fans because then those string of results don't happen. I think in in the last twelve months, they played twelve matches. They only three, you know, for for a a national program like and and when you're losing two teams in World Cups like Mexico and easy, easy, Hintze Korea, but no, it's, but. But you gotta remember your German? Yes. Have you lose to Brazil because you matched up in a quarter-final. That's one thing, but when you're losing group stages against teams that you should be beating or at least scrambling draw. One of beating the other one getting through and then going into the knockout stages in when you see the consistency of poor results for Germany, something has to change. All right. 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Real Madrid Struggle Again

"Hello there welcome into the show. I'm Adrian Healey and the Splendid Company of Stuart Robson and Shack. He's up lots of preseason action to get to including spurs and Rail Madrid in the Audi Cup before that though the big news just broke a couple of hours ago U._S.. Women's national team coach Jill. L._S. is stepping down not immediately after the victory tour announced it just a couple of hours ago. This is what she said. When I accepted the head coaching position position this was the timeframe I envisioned the timing is right to move on the program is position to remain at the pinnacle of Women's soccer changes something I've always embraced in my life for me and my family? This is the right moment ch- well she leaves is the first coach to win to women's well comes in just a second in the history of the men's and the women's game to do that. <hes> most games coached second most wind. She could overtake Tony Stratego. She wins another three games and of course she was twenty. Fifteen women's coach of the year every chance she could be the twenty nine thousand nine hundred one as well l.. We are joined very good friend. Kate Margaret for an initial reaction to the news is on the phone kate. Did the timing of these snooze surprise you we take back to well any time. There's a release after the lunch hour. It was well time by U._S.. Soccer's part but I am I am not surprised as much as perhaps I would have been three weeks ago. <hes> right towards the finals or starting to be a little bit of rumblings inside the bubble double that perhaps this might be it of Joe to win it because she'd want to go out on top winning back to back competitions within less than twelve months is very difficult Cole and I think she saw a a huge jump in her team's performance and at this point I think she's just like I've done everything. I've done something that no coaches ever done in U._S.. Soccer history and I want that to be part of my legacy if you can't just briefly put her career in in perspective because when she took over in two thousand fourteen she wasn't always the most popular choice what she's had her critics all the way along despite all the success he actually did you know she got the job. <hes> after Tom Ceremony appointment didn't work out and she took over from someone inside the program she was running the youth teams and at first it was a bit of a learning curve in two thousand fifteen. She made some bad decisions. I would say during the World Cup but was able to recollect quickly and ended up winning in two thousand sixteen some roster roster choices that were questionable and it was the earliest loss from a U._S.. Team in a major competition bowing out in the quarterfinals and that's when Jill Ellis showed that she could learn from her mistakes. She completely revamped the entire program brought in sixty new players to get evaluations. It angered the starting groups so much that they tried to get her are fired in two thousand seventeen but she stayed the course and U._S.. Soccer kept her on and we got to see what happens with this new style of play with new players players on the team and she can walk away knowing that she helped build for the next generation. That'll be in the next cycle due to all all the tough growing pains learned since the twenty sixteen loss and play on that point. Is it fed is I. She's now left them in a position of strength to like of which they haven't been lean and since nineteen oh I don't know if I'd go that far because they have a number of players over the age of thirty that and quite honestly you the the team didn't play great soccer throughout the entire tournament but they played the right tactics and style each game to find a way to win and that is something when you look look out you think that the England and France who collectively might have been playing better soccer when you get to watch them individually play for player might be more talented. Their coaches made the wrong choices basis so you have to imagine those coaches are going to learn from those mistakes. I think it winning back to back is going to be a huge talent. Finally of course it doesn't take effect effect for five games. She'll do the victory tour. Maybe get the record number of wins but the wheels will start turning immediately who is going to succeed. Jilava who's next oh gosh that's a great question and one. I wish I could tell you could put some money down and make ton and be able to pay for college. I you know Laura Harvey's name that gets thrown out quite a bit Paul Riley really who has been the most successful N._W._f.. Coach for North Carolina <hes> Vlatko <hes> The rain out in Washington. Those are some of the three professional rational coaches that you hear their names rolling around and you know there's one college coach that I think is very well respected as as Mark Krikorian who coaches at F._S._U.. Just won. The National National Championship at has his pulse on the international game more than any other college coach. I think in the country and that is someone that I think that everyone would want to take a look at along with those professional coaches great stuff kate. Thanks for joining is a very short notice. I will see you in Pasadena for the start of that victory tour on now on Saturday agency and thank you K- Margraaff <hes> there for guys just just in summing up Vittorio Pozzo the only other the person man or woman to win two consecutive World Cup and that was in the nineteen thirties. This is a great achievement but what you heard there was the best coaches learn from the mistakes. Being coach is never easy. You're GonNa have times when things aren't going to go your way and she learned from mistakes and they won the World Cup and it's a great performance from her and a great careers over I think especially when it comes to women's game where you were judged not just on on the World Cup's as as the major men's programs but also with the Olympics where you'll your own feed can can be sealed in inferior or success which is what happened to Gillette's in two thousand sixteen as Keita's pointing all the disappointments of their performance performance in Brazil but on the back of being crowned champions in Canada and yet still when men when men's coaches have those successes over that prolonged period of time is usually with a core group of players but poorly the disappointments of two thousand Sixteen Gillette's refurbish refurbishes program much Chagrin of of many many of the existing players and again. It's because commodities that is a feet. I don't think many can accomplish and Sydney. I don't think any any in the men's game would have to deal with why is he heard me say that celebration tour starting against island in Pasadena the Rosebowl on Saturday. We will have that game for you as well as some N._W._e._a.. S._N._l.. Action the night before Friday seven o'clock eastern the Houston dash taking on the Seattle Reign. You can see that on E._S._P._N.. News meanwhile the Audi Cup underway in Munich Rail Madrid each <hes> French Ashok seven three hammering at the hands of it goes spurs at an impressive preseason Basra and it continued for the northern Vilas a tiny while Caitlyn Abbas was a busy man he has to if you look at it comes off the run just going into the coconut. They're going one way good safe. Short checkered of appreciated Sydney did but just three minutes. It's like the loose ball from edit has a on my cell compounding the era teeing up Harry Kane who's finished with smart finishers good crossing Brunson Kit Naveh but what is Marcello doing hair. I'm not trying to talk about to say heroes but somehow managed to miss that by solid twenty yards and played hurricane so the brake shoe and spacious Preston could've had molin the second off learn not from that was some. He denied what he does. He moves his feet while he doesn't die from where he was. He just took a couple of steps up the dive in and then Deli Alley the next to be really nice boil over the valley who is read on site but yet to get Ed Kilo Nevada's equal to troy Perry came on the seventeen year old Irish striker they raving about a north London he wasn't denying by by Kaelin Abbas but forty post for its just a loan from the goalkeeper. There's reverse threes a little flick on by the first one and then for just does everything that goes across goalkeeper. Just can't get it in but one nil was finished Nevo win for mercy of Pacino's men another <hes> less than desirable terrible result for Real Madrid. The free season is a bit of a tale of woe just one draw and three defeats including that seven three hammering at the hands of Athletico and it leads to a lot of pondering and wondering what exactly is going on. They look uninspired Stewart. There's there's a lack of Spock bought. The sort of the proviso preseason stood as preseason but they're not getting much better hoping they'd be a reaction action from Real Madrid. We talked about how poorly they played against asked him. In the first half how terrible they were against Athletic Madrid lacking in fitness lack in organization lacking in discipline no creativity either and when you look at the highlights there when we watch the whole game And but discussing mural one individual make that big a difference to to hope Paul Real Madrid Madrid looked so far and this is not just a one off against Spurs. You have to one if I'm a real Madrid fry norm sitting room. I am genuinely concerned yeah at it as only preseason but you've talked whereas in danger Dan before anything today to change those worries I know I think he was a little bit more animated from the side. I think he plays that little bit harder today. I think they were slightly better than they were in the previous two games but he changed something he played with Eddie. It has out in the first off as a second striker in behind Ben's Zima so you took him off that left we shall be played four four two and has played in offensive. It's a position that he can play and he's played world before but he needs supply that he can link up with these get understanding and he needs to get the understanding. We'd bends him a pretty quickly. If that's going to work any <hes> any further thoughts on sedan or <hes> was it used to seeing Dan could be in for a short shit says two months even the TAB breath. I disagree with you know you're looking on and not getting any better and yeah this continues shut is absolutely right what about spurs spurs because I was really impressed with gaming event and now this is against rummage it and don't believe looking looking the patch yeah I don't blame look excellent again today and as you look at the squad and again you wondering about smooz about the death during the course of the season but you play this you play against Real Madrid dominant as we said that Madrid very good opposition right now but you're still able to call them. He Likes Deli Allie L. e. off the bench and so cool off the bench boroughs will look smarter. I mean it's a good looking team. That may be Housi- depth <hes> I I don't think the challenge the two but considerably men their position in the top four. It's a good looking spruce open Tokyo the of vintage team that Spurs beat a week ago at transfer move involving ventures but away from you what did you did you make Moyes at Ken <hes> and his move twenty nine million dollars to Everton. That was what I thought was strange about it is that they didn't do a loan deal. There's a young player. He's not going to get much of a look in eventers. Events is if he stayed event is because they manzu catch they go league wayne. They got renowned. Oh they look into other players to bring in as well at the moment so this is many places that you have to get in front off but to actually sell him when he's such a promising youngster. I think it's a strange decision obviously sorry when he was at Chelsea didn't WanNA play. There's an inside when he's not going getting my side by my look well. We need the money. Let's let's let's take the money and just dismiss you know maybe they see something in training that he's not as good as we think is not even Su- they called Moi's again a lot last season and he came up with Vita Goose don't often times we and as you see regardless of what your looks like right. Now you have a player who's willing to to sit on the bench. WHO's willing to come off the bench and I'm Ken on a show that they can? They can have an impact. I think you hold onto those pledges for a little bit longer because it's not always easy keeping all those eagles egos in check. Everybody wants to play but all of a sudden you have a player I because of his youth who's happy to come off the bench. I this one surprise me law module see how good he is forever forever to noticed you. This is a signal of intent is one area I think I needed. I needed to send a Ford. Who's going to lead the the line? The last one they had really was outstanding for them. He hasn't been mentioned Karki when he left the line. When Roberto Martinez was the manager and they've got Kelvin Louis Louis News a young player who's done quite well for them but this is a sign of incentive? I think it would just sue Everton and he's a player that Everton when they played their best quiet I would say quite direct the crowd want them to be a high price in them to play direct football boys into the box. They want to get into the front player. He's a solid player. You can run as well. He's a strong strong player. Let's hope he's a successful well the team that finished eighth in the Premier League at a busy day because it was someone going out the door as well dressy gay the midfielder going to P. S. G. Julia for the P._S.. G side of things good good pick up for them so good pickup for them. He's not a real creative. Player is a dynamic player glad to win the bullet whenever some play really well it was him that was closing the ball down winning it back quickly. He gives them that little bit of dynamism. He's not going to pick out passes. I think they were looking at a contact the Chelsea player he's the next best thing would say. There's a guy that could get your like Shankar's twenty nine twenty nine million pounds on jet. It makes sense. It's exactly the kind of player that appears you wanted couldn't get contest. So you get the next best thing I it makes a lot of sense and at that price again for me absolute steel <hes> all that transfer window remember closes early this year for the primly teams things. We'll get some nine vision yeah you can keep up to date with all the transfer talk on our web page E._S._p._N.. F._C. dot com technology truth brought to you by Geico cold truth teenagers can communicate entirely in emojis how why Bob Birthday party pizza slice kitten <music> soccer ball pineapple truth. It's so easy to switch and save on car insurance at GEIKO DOT com. What are you talking about? paperclips clip shoulder shrug high five wizard hat what Geico fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percents or more now the office the forthcoming Lao League season boss Loaner understandably as favorites perhaps a little less understandably Real Madrid thirteen to eight and then Athletico Madrid which I think think these short independent but they still twelve to one fourteen to twelve to one outside his lollygag title ahead of the new season should net Athleti legend Diego Forlan sat down to talk to Richard meant. What was your reaction after Athletico Madrid warn against Real Madrid seventy? I was surprised it's not easy to to see a game and get that scoresheet. It's difficult and also when you're talking about when you're playing against Madrid but you know some people. They said it's it's. It's a friendly game when into Derby's difficult to say down you know nobody wants to to lose seven three you how it's not. It's not good for any player but house impressive Jim most about Joe Felix and you know great technique agreeable dribble. Good goalscorer has as well his very young. I think it's a great signing for four months. We'd she's GonNa that'd be a great play is very young and hopefully he will learn a lot with Costa with more data. I know so with humility he's experienced coach which is one of the best ones and keep them a lot. I said Great Strike Yourself. <hes> what you admire about Google Costa much of a fighter what I liked about the of course is the same as Swat as you know those those players sometimes they fight too much but the way they they like doing it and <hes> and they know how to do it but the thing is that maybe the team is playing doing well and the way athletic or sometimes place you can give him any ball and he's GonNa create something. That's what I what I like about. Him modell looked great before he got hurt. Can he be again the player he was before he went to England because he's he's. She's learning you know he's learning when he went to to prevent to swing he was in Chelsea. He's really a young player in Madrid as well and now he has a paternity to come to our good team that is growing year by year. <hes> he gets quality and he's he's GonNa be <hes>. He's going to get more experience more mature and that's and that would benefit in game thing about Tripura. He will feed trade with Maria what he needs to prove. I think yes good players. It depends on him. You know I think now the thing changing before Oh you know the English players it was difficult to see something display blowing away from from their country to play in other in other places you know it was strange range because I understand it's one of the strongest league in the world way country so what's the point to leave is is different as American players. We I need to go away what we understand this life and if we want to become a professional football player we know that we need to travel in in those cases for them is totally different as well with the Spanish players before they were more in Spain and now they're playing all around the world. I'm also a lot of players and there are many way players key players in England and they've been doing really well so that's why it's been changing now. I'm Together one of them may be this is going to need to go to the bench. I Dunno moments. If you want to say but the trumpster you know it's Dan is going to be different to is. GonNa be nice to see how they will for valor. There's going to be interesting to see for us how he he will manage to put all those players you know because the those four players and the players knew what one of the Best Ed as New Orleans so for them to play together Diego Forlan full of optimism for Athletico heading into the new seasons to having seen them in person. Do you share his optimism here on the evidence of that one guy played magnificent football. They knew what they were trying to do. They were world copes. They're enthusiastic. They look so good teams Brit. They mentioned the front for their Miranda until he went off like the old murata the eyesore inventors is where he's one of the best strikers in my view in the world the cost of looked to sharper than he did all season. Jail Phoenix Plan on the right hand side and already got great understanding Windsor. Coming wingfield plan the number ten role then get back out into that wide area. Lamar was closing the boredom but the best player on the field by far was so he was absolutely magnificent in that midfield the question mark will be back for almost a new back for will. They be good enough defensively. Jau Felix of course is one of the new arrivals rivals Athletico <hes> we had a chance to sit down with him of course we had to ask him who he would like to emulate Renaldo as one five under and misses the dream of every football players and obviously I would like to be like rescinded surprise surprise ask a nineteen year old Portuguese Ford who wants to emulate Christine Cristiano Dal would he does but let's he's at a club where I think he will lose football well and under coach Indigo Simeoni where I think he will continue to grow and what we've seen so far and I I understand that with the price tag comes a certain amount of expectation especially when you're talking about the teenager but early signs and I know it's only preseason. I thought he's he's looked outstanding and seem to fit in you. Continue Not Wien. I think Bo listen takes a lot to be the next Renaldo next in a messy but he's on on his way to being a delivering on that price didn't exactly start off flying diddy when he was a young teenager with Manchester United. They had to be patient. We'll we'll athletic I have to I just pointed out up until he's caught. His First Manchester United that was that was the icebreaker was all of a sudden is career tuned around unfortunately awaiting in yeah. He had moments when he was a youngster every knew he was going to be a fantastic plan. When he went to mention united he had great games. He had some four all games where he was going to too. Many steps does the running out players. have it taken off of him. The crowd were getting onto him a little bit but you always knew there was selling jail. Felix's got a similar sort of not quite quickly. He's going to be these clever with these party and four lamb was pointing out in fact going to pains to point out at plenty is the perfect place for someone like Jiao Felix Allah. Some people wouldn't have said that if you if you're a creative player and you've got the ability to pass and you got to go past people that say well. Do you really want to go to the semi avenues known as a defensive coach but what he will get out of him is the he will. He will go and play and be crazy player but he make sure he understands the defensive game and too many a young players talented. Don't learn the defensive side of the they're gonNA. Change DNA Athleti then. I'm going to be a defensive team anymore. We hope not if they're going to play UH UP Front Loretta and Diego cost there and they can play with your feelings on the right hand side and those two midfield coca and sal and Lamar down the left and there's wants us to come in. They're the second side I I think he will allow their their front three or whatever he decides to go with a little bit more freedom but I don't think that'd be a whole lot of change in terms of the defensive responsibility of Leti and them in particular defending as a team I think about with St with Daego Shinmun seems wrote people who like to put their money on the line always look for bargains. Is that a bargain price for Atlanta twelve to one to win the League the League time yes it is. I mean Buffalo. You'd still say a favorites and Real Madrid got to get better at some point but what I've seen so far from athletic and it's a new squad new team. They look as they know what they're doing. They look as other enthusiasts stick. He's already good at some of the components right. I think it's a good good well. What sort of joys away is an extra time. Today I wonder over the lost few days who was driving the getaway massive no fan so Ferrari apparently yeah extra time available every day a on youtube the current odds to win the Premier League title in Twenty Nine Hundred Twenty twenty wedding Manchester City and livable way ahead of the rest of the competition looking at Spurs third favorite's sixteen to on ahead of the opening of the Premier League campaign format that Manchester United Great Wayne Rooney was caught down at the M._l._s. all-star game and he was asked is it impacts two-horse race yeah. I think it's always difficult to say before. The season started to you. Don't know how teams have prepared in the in the preseason of course last season. The two best teams teams in the League was Liverpool and Manchester City so ensure they'll be challenging again and you know Chelsea obviously the new manager Franck lump on in Bali GonNa socials faithful as full season at Manchester United and arsenal of locals in preseason so I'm sure all teams will be hoping that they can challenge. What do you think about united lack of signings in the off season. I think there's still there's still a bit of time to go before the transfer window ends and I'm sure beyond the scenes scenes the the wickenheiser to bring the place in which ones should they keep papa should they. It's it's obviously down to the club to the ball to the in manageable. I think the player he if the player wants to stay in you'll stay in improve. What a go player so again. I think behind the scenes. I'm sure they're working on ways in whether it's to keep more whether it's local. Do you think Harry Maguire would be a good fit with the club. Yeah I think he's a hiccup player and hope the last few years he's improved as a player he's he's better and he's been a main player for Leicester City in England so the think he'd be signing if they can go so way Rooney on format team Manchester United and their prospects. What did you make of what he was saying. Would you send right now on United's Stewart heading into the new season. You don't quite sure what's going to happen from now. So the transfer of wind yeah it's important written something happens to be poke with the he makes his mind that he's going to stay and be top like that's what he has to be. If he's going to stay is going to be their top layer and everything has to revolve around in. They can build the blocks around that. They've got to write back in soccer. He looks good player. He's got plenty of place James the winger that many games but he's certainly going to be good additions to the squad. It's who they can get in centre-half. That's where they need to prevent. Let's say that I think is key. G- WIA or another very good centre-half after come in Maguire would would be my choice because I think he's an outstanding play. They need to make that back for much much better. What about the ever being very high on the potential devour lukaku doc who <hes> swap if you WANNA call it that hearing agents in Manchester Right now <hes> I like this a lot I Manchester United needed goalscorer. Anita goes code into fits into the and in particular how this play against them I think about is better for them to cartoon in that regard as good as Rochford is both through the Middle Midland and coming from wide. I I do believe he in each out and head. You see develop plan because I don't use it on out. Send Four. I'm not saying I'd I'd centerfold. I play them all at the very least as a two pronged attack alongside Russia I think respite can also come in come in from white areas <hes> but I think when you have a finish up the quality of Dibella you play him through the middle and get as close to as possible and again given how everybody else please get much with a few exceptions illeg. Of course I think he's a good fit to be fresh one day lots of gas in that particular tank for <hes> Palo de Paul. If you ever miss an edition of the show by the way the the podcast of ocean very much available on a daily basis Ivor on our web page or on uphold podcasts Christiana went out on you vintage chances of winning the Champions League. He said Hey let's we will win the Champions League. I don't know if it will be this year or the next but it's coming that was reported block at the Spanish newspaper. The ultimatum tend not to agree though they have event is currently fifth favorites to win does she behind Real Madrid behind the whole oldies livable Barcelona and the eternal favorites Manchester City yet. He's confident he was brought to win the Japanese Leah but he's not sure it'll be this year. The telltale sign will be how sorry does the manager yeah the coach. He's got to give them a whole new system. This is a different install manager. He's got to get the best out of players that brought some new players in so they. I think they probably better than they were last year with coming in at centre half. They got a couple of good midfield plus Arabia. I think is going to be a good addition for them but we still don't know where they're. GonNa lose one or two between detailer. ARE THEY GONNA go. I still think it's GonNa be tough well. UH-HUH I agree listen nine to one odds. If you're a betting man good better have event us but I'm sure to this as I think you should right now. There are other clubs that are better prepared than events or that being said it takes a huge slice of luck to win a competition says champions is the whether Lagos with eventual or against the this time we'll tell they've got a good squad a better score than the last season and as much as I rinaldo wants to be a little bit noncommittal he was brought there for a reason and I he wants it as much as anybody this year or next despite what his suggests well you mentioned it's a knockout competition and the slings and Arrows of outrageous for what would the odds on Spurs being reaching the final this time of year. It would've been the group yeah they. They should've shouldn't really got through the group early stages then they had that gaming stocks what they've nearly out and got go back into the game won't be challenged team. You could do a spurs this year if he'd come from lower down in the in the odds to surprise. We're not necessarily win it but the big price lost his. They've lost some of their best players but I thought it would be going any further than those people is there are I'm not sure into Milan is absolutely they can't into sleep with you table. Thanks for watching guys see next time. Extra time where I tell you what we've had astonishing astonishing questions in recent days I sat and watched. I heard I was getaway. Driver with driver's cab. Mom cutty was a bruiser which is in the high tech tactician so not to disappoint of us but we have some questions to get. This is what must be must be. Oh it's a Tuesday so slow news aw what's a realistic go fossil the seasons do we try and get into the sorry both in league and in Europe is there <hes> separate goal in Europe in the top four yeah and to win the Europa League yeah and that's realistic. That's really any uptick on that. Whoa no for these top two lt question yeah I know I. I'm Cadeau says the top four so I if you're asking me if they're going to finish it. I'm apparently all the fans want to do is finish above right then. Don't WanNa do that that will require spurs slipping Bang Ross. No it's a Finnish about the right <hes>. Do you think Josie Marina will replace his entertains. Dan This season US Felix Excu. He says he's waiting for big club. In one of the top five leagues I saw I saw that interview as well as the fire is there. He's ready to go. He's just waiting for the issue that far when he was at you mentioned that he got fired for dinner. Pres- by all accounts still still higher on Jersey Marino and if Real Madrid struggled early on the season which preseason is anything to go by may be the keys. How'd you think at in has sir no. He's filled with me. That won't be good when you know would have a history going back heck. Does he see I mean I.. We were seeing this as much as I agree but we couldn't let down really think I I don't know yeah. I don't think he's somebody that would if things are going badly the autumn Jackson's we're his last two emphatically season started badly and he came in and just kind of like I would be alright and it turned out alright yeah. They're all of a sudden the second half of the season reality real good again and the challenges that didn't really change the league. I don't know I'm just I'm just I'm. I'm I really am go to sleep. I knew it wasn't coming. I knew street that where it was coming. Cristiano Renaldo opened his accounting yeah well. If you're going to pick one goalkeeper the Golden Dacian success does uh-huh scores <hes> why on by Munich interested in Marrow Coty as eleven Danski backup drove Guna. I'm sure the ecology tape backups eleven. Dusky don't realize I moved to you know maybe I haven't seen one of these best days. I've done a lot of great fan vanity county you know he's a he's a decent finish but I'm not sure he works hard on for me called. He wouldn't be a player. I'd look at we're talking about the Ballard. Our economy's another just needs a fresh start being a backup. I don't know we caught his no backup. I think you're going to be too much of a headache. If if you do just take him as a backup but did you see him. He's not better than level. Dusky now right now so that for music is a non starter. I'm the play that they believe is going to be a centre forward. At some point he's placed in the food fooled German national plan on the right hand side yeah at the moment but he complex into for would as well. I think he would be starting off spe- wasn't fit centerfolds in two folds a hogging all the questions today. It's normally shepherd spies but it's into foods they why why isn't the future any GIECO a biggest story surely one of the most underrated central folds out they want gives Ma'am Ma'am. I seen whole Ezequiel thirty three thirty Thursday so I I think just by by age I.. I'm not sure who's going to improve talked about well. Yeah I mean he's at a couple of very good seasons. I think he's still got a lot of quality is not quite consistent assistant enough. It was a talk I think about a year and a half ago. There was a coup the Christmas period he was going to go to Chelsea and it didn't quite happen. More at ease is still an excellent strike and you do the joke for the season for over a couple of seasons any good club yup lead in the life of Bosnian couple of months ago. He looked great against Leeann Schlei finally why N._W._e._a.. The provider this <hes> question which team will be a surprise package this season in Europe. I guess we could say in their own leagues rather than winning the champions in their own leagues anyone in in the big five restaurants in Europe West well. I wonder about the Premier League is is going to be those teams just below the top six and Everton. We talked about and bulls. They push up. I'd I think wolves did probably as well as they you could do last year. I'm not sure about the control on icy land west time you never know. Do you ever played there so inconsistent inconsistent one week that'd be trying everything that'd be running for each other the next week they look like a sham was on their day like can be good so they may just have a good season uh-huh anyone else anyone in Germany he was going to come on the royals surprises. There's no only someone in Germany. Frankfurt Langford has lost many many pitches a misstep. We've done the worry about legal. History will probably go win that one. What what what about Syria because you know it's being event and Napoli wanted to for so long back to Milan teams teams into Tina with new ownership. I interviewed a job because the manager that's always been success and so they have won the title three years with eventers and then goes to become the Italian manager and as a brilliant job with that same he then goes on Wednesdays. I T's Chelsea he had a bad second insane because I think the Fed up with what he was doing but inter will be challenging this year. Yep I agree you. Don't see anybody else. You don't see God's Atlanta repeating as it did. I just think it's it's a little bit too much for them. I don't see Milan challenging the top three at the very least don't see the bullet hole through Bluetooth. A challenge will get established top three all right successful experiment conducted an extra time without question about pies ice. Driving getaway drivers a wholesome cots. I don't know I don't know there. We something question it was the question was modified. Seattle Ferraris. What would we be said. He was the Ferrari. That's right right. That was awesome. Let your in the big seats. I learned that earlier today. which is it's a seat along with a pitcher? 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July 1: Then the tear gas begins to fly

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July 1: Then the tear gas begins to fly

"This is a cbc podcast hi i'm anastasia busa i'm a two time olympic speed skater my whole life i have been surrounded by athletes and every one of them has a story that a scoreboard will never capture it's not an easy thing to be with an athlete but don't understand why they're making fun of me because i like the fingers gape players on voice is all about the person inside the performance when you're so in it i think perhaps where the people that understand at least subscribe scribe now wherever you get your podcasts hello i'm susan boehner sitting in for carol off good evening i'm karen gordon this is as it happens the podcast addition tonight then this year gas begins to fly protesters in hong kong barkley anniversary of the return to chinese ruled by storming the legislature we reach inactive as does the police moved in to clear the crowd outside safe harbor the crew of a rescue ship says their captain had no choice but to break in a talion law making it illegal for her to bring forty he rescued migrants into port draw your own conclusions an editorial cartoonist wonders whether he lost his job because of the way he drew donald trump at the papers owners say their readers were just ready for a change call call and response a new york detectives died demanding fairness for his fellow nine eleven responders tonight we talked to a friend who promising to carry on that fight nasty business our guest calls the huge alabama homes super any promises he won't be story unless you do something to disturbed that fifteen thousand loss buzzing around inside an spiraling out of control two of the world's biggest frozen potato sellers not the legal stark shut one another the race to dominate the market for french fries with the trademark world as it happens the monday edition radio that knows if at first you don't succeed pri pri again demonstrators in hong kong have been in the streets for weeks protesting a controversial extradition law today on the anniversary of the city's returned to china hundreds of those demonstrators took their fight to the legislative council building they smashed through a glass facade in stormed inside there they occupy the chamber for hours hours destroying pictures and spray painting slogans on the wall police eventually cleared the mode of the building any area around it using tear gas and shields alexis ain't as a university student taking part in today's demonstrations outside the building we reached her earlier today as police moved in and protesters were preparing to leave alexis what is the scene like outside the legislative council building right now in that right now people people are waiting so i saw these just touch on most of the people inside the building retreated but they're still around twenty people inside those ads about a thousand people or the bit more than that outside bang i tried to support on the protectors invite they say and how were they expressing their support i understand there was some chanting before yeah just a lot of people saying hong kong people basically it was just to try to fill them out there saying hong kong people added oil it is ongoing young guy out an expression of the in cantonese you were not there when protesters testers broke through the barricades broke through the glass to enter the building what do you make of that decision to do that i think this shifts we particularly another that we don't understand people who protest in a defendant meaner than what we do i on myself a peaceful protest though i did nothing but sit and watch or just challenge or march or something but i think in general hong kong people are very understanding and supportive of so they using different main so we talk she she people with compassion know everyone wants to boston the council and so they've done it but when you support that most of us will this leads to divisions among the protesters i think that there were certain division some people apparently disagreed with aj like in the previous protests more peaceful protests assess might be divided with the the protesters who tried to use more bicycle me but this year in particular i think people united because there are lots of different messages an end date and then then and people trying to tell each other how we are doing things differently for let's say papa so it is very encouraging i would say the demonstrators today the ones that the broke through in went into thee legislative building they believe that this is the last day to make their voices heard why there are few reasons one of which is that it is the first of july it's it's a day of the hanover is very symbolic but i think also because it has a ready been in a few weeks since the first protests gangsta extradition bill so they were very peaceful protests that were different kinds of events that happen but that happened in any very positive like or even respond respond on the gulf men but kerry lamb has said that extradition bill has been put on pause the government is not doing any more work on the bill and it set to expire next year why is that not enough protesters for me personally i can't speak for all other protesters but i think it's not because they could easily refill the again unless they promised to withdraw completely but they do so the protesters inside the building has made many statements today what are they saying one then they thought they feel like a company that never on the people the non they are even talking to people so they we thought the non withdrawing calling the previous protests riots and releasing the wreckage protested and all that and they also say in some of the data willie unless the government talk to them there are the police now we could see some police in logos which is so the way i feel away from the let's say the building will police have issued a statement saying they want the protesters to clear the building or face what they describe as appropriate for the hong kong government has labeled the protesters actions is extreme violence are you worry i this evening may end in violence we are very because the protesters inside the legislative council at left but under about twenty of them inside but i see everyone said that we were like brett thing that we will leave by protesters outside the at midnight which is now under just been people saying if you have the background that we forget the why have you decided to join this protest tonight oh not very complicated i feel like i believe in what they do although i don't believe in that means so this is what i can do without breaking the laws and the outside with them and also there are people saying if it's good to have more people outside the show that people and hong kong through cat and we're like we're still expecting another our opinion in this way alexa can you can you describe a little bit more what it looks like what people are doing around you because at night so some people read anything anything but that that's the fun so they're closer to the police but people are trying to say he should leave pick up i like this is everyone all right here in america we're not entirely so that i cared i i i'm quite far away from the care that i am i'm already moving to the back because i opened my there's another thing with my friends so the back and i'm better the people in the front do they show any signs but they will move i think i think that's really difficult for anyone to stay productive everyone is leaving action that we don't wanna keep you in the middle of this we'll we'll stay in touch be safe thank you very much there by by by alexis saying the university student in hong kong we reached her outside the legislative council building earlier today on comes leader kerry lamb held a rare news conference criticizing me occupation she called it a violent instead they had shocked and saddened people this is something that we should seriously on death because nothing is more important than the rule of law in hong kong so i hope a community at large will agree with us that with these violent acts that we have seen it is right for us just on dallas as society will be trying to normal as soon as possible it's hong kong's chief executive kerry lamb speaking to reporters before dawn today in hong kong michael deandra recent cartoon criticizing u s president donald trump has probably gotten more attention than anything else he's drawn in his twenty year career you'd think that might be followed by celebration the editorial cartoonist says that instead stead he's injured a series of headaches shortly after he made the drawing we chose the president with two bodies of people who died trying to cross the border into the u s his contract with you irving own papers in new brunswick was terminated we reached mr di out or in halifax michael the company that owns these newspapers brunswick news says ending your contract has nothing to do with that cartoon of donald trump do you buy that well it's a bit of a he said she said and with all he said she said there's probably a middle ground someplace but i spent seventeen years at being i and there wasn't a single day well weekday or saturdays at one of my cartoons wasn't in a paper in new brunswick i've always filled in where needed and if i had a cartoon max life high replace that cartoon so even when has access to fulfill my duties i mean it was difficult work for the taboo subject that you couldn't touch it mean that you submit a cartoon enhance rejected rejected i mean one year i've been whose ox fifty four times in one year and it for each one of those cartoons but how is axe i replaced so i mean i always did my job one of the biggest phones contention he only subject actually but i know what's taboo and i was told with donald trump who told you trump was taboo while the editors at i was dealing with that time then some of the arguments we'd get heated and then there came a point where i felt like i might get fired at five risk sending another trump in can you describe for us lee cartoon in question were gonna put it on our website or light through the father and daughter who drowned crossing the water down in the border the united states one of the pitchers that appeared in all the newspapers and i drew donald trump in a golf cart going do you mind if i play through a meaning that he's busy golfing and he's talking to two people that are deceased i mean it was a hard hitting cartoon you issued in on social media yeah i posted on social media but with the hearings i always had a good relationship i mean it was fraught with tension at times but i always did my job so i had no reason on thursday just think there's anything wrong so i posted that cartoon i dunno it just immediately took off it's sort of went supernova so for the next twenty four hours i thought this is crazy i'm having the day the cartoon a stream of friday you know just twenty four hours after it appear i get a call from the guy i deal with every day what a good relationship with us and he told me i was fired and i said no go way i'm not fired and he goes no you are and i asked why didn't give me a reason i said is cost and he goes no and i said is a gross incompetence and he goes no and i go is it my online presence which i was really suspecting because in the middle of one of the best two days of my career and he said no i listen up a few other things and that was it when you say you're online presence do you mean that slight online antitrump presence to put it as simply as i possibly can seem like the most logical thing considering what was going on at that moment the company issued a statement regarding these allegations that you were fired over this cartoon it says quote this is a false narrative which has emerged carelessly perilously an recklessly on social media in fact be and i was not even offered this cartoon well that's true i did wanna poke the bear and offer donald trump coaches especially that one about the trump cartoons that you think the paper didn't like was it just trump in general or your specific cartoons about him i you know i i don't know the answer you know what i'm about to go in the speculation and the truth is i don't know if it would all be just making up stuff brunswick news being goes on to say that he organization want it to bring back another cartoonist quote reader favorite greg perry what do you make of that we cartoonist sir a sort of brotherhood i'm not attack another cartoon is i will question reader favorite should say urban favorite the reader favorite they fired what do you think beat earnings expectations from you they expect me to go company line and what is the company line the company line is the bottom line i mean for other newspapers that's the bottom line really i mean should somebody that cares about the bottom line on the newspaper should someone that basically owns most of new brunswick owner newspaper should accompany that at least a quarter of the stories pertain to them being control of the print source that supplies he runs workers with the news that's the real issue donald trump and me being fired is not the issue here but you are from new brands like you have other work but you won't be published in new brunswick this this is your home province in that province you've got a lot of family and friends and stable senior cartoons anymore in their daily newspapers well that's the hardest part and i'll tell you who i like sorry my mother has diamond chair and she doesn't really remember her son's sometimes circuits the mixed up quite often but she remembers that her son draws cartoons and proud of her routine is to go down andy reid the paper everyday in you know see my cartoon and that's the hardest part i'm kind of hoping that the people around her will tell her that the greg perry cartoon is actually but mine she rhino so as long as people don't tell her an actually people tell her she won't remember the next day she'll she'll go down and look at it and she'll think that great pair cartoons mine i'm hoping anyway do you have any regrets michael about that cartoon what no no no i love that cartoon and i don't care i just wanna get through this move on with my life we've won the bigger and better things that's it well michael thank you for your time today and good luck thank you very much michael deandra is a freelance editorial cartoonist he is in halifax you could see the cartoon in question on our website cbc dot c h slash hey i h along with the statement from brunswick news about mr di others termination if you ari yellow jacket off in alabama this year you're having one heck of a good summer the wasps in that state have upgraded their regular size nests super nest nest contained more than fifteen thousand wasp's nests the spent seven feet or more than two meters say these nestor like regular ones except bigger doesn't begin to do them justice charles raised in alabama entomologist who's been tracking them we reached him in auburn alabama about mr ray justice photographs of these super nast give me the hebei db's what do you think when you see the world i'm fascinated because of a couple of things one is until nine to two thousand six i've never seen one the second is why is occurring and that's something we hope the answer with some of the nest this year the third thing is is just incredible but you almost feel the energy around these now there wash working on the paper there was flying in and out with pray you say busy is a baby will this is busy is a wash their incredible how many of these super nasty habit in alabama so far this year i'm fairly confident i've got around nineteen i'm gonna be heading out tomorrow looking to more and in fact verified but it is a nasty our jackets can you describe what these super nests look like well an almost looks like there there is paper slowly losing out on the surface it there nafta's behind so many of whom ron embankments long road besides and it looks like there's a river of paper his flowed down the side home it looks like this papers you're losing out from the chiefs it's very beautiful i mean you could it has texture and color and then the yellow jackets all over and you describe energy around it how many wasps are living inside these nest a small colony of these super ness in late june would have at least fifteen thousand wasp listen older our fifteen thousand and the the larger nest undoubtedly have many many more they only recor number i could come up rivers there's a study done in south carolina enough to his examined and they found over a quarter of a million yellow jacket you mentioned the year two thousand six when there were in that year ninety had these super nest in two thousand and six three people were seriously injured by watch things how how dangerous arnie's nast these ness are actually not very dangerous unless you disturb them so all three people people who were injured were seriously disturbing in this so elderly lady in a nearby kenny had no idea what it was and she went out with the reagan started pulling it off the side of her house and she ended up being hospitalized and there the gentleman coosa county who is went out and bought a foot call wasp and hornet spray and he went through twenty six cans and he would spray the nasa and he would try to pull it down with a reaganite more would come flying out staying him he sprays price and more breaks or get stung civil war and he got a large number of things and he also is that a lot of pain so he ingested some alcohol trotta feel better and either he passed out from me wants things news or alcohol or both but he fell and broke so they orbit tbone circle dry oh my what should people do when they encounter these super nast so my advice is if you leave it alone they will not bother you unless you start digging into it and then there's a lot more wash to respond what's causing these gigantic mass we suspect it is something to do with the fact that are climate of the getting warmer it was a very warm water so some more loss survive the winter is that is that the car well it's not more while surviving the winter is is a colony did not die so atypical annual colonies starts with a single queen you could call her a single mom because she has to go out establish our own household just to find a place in nast just a building and original small nest herself she has to forge food for her first workers and then after that the workers takeover and this is gonna sound like an enormous number but the little nest in the ground here in alabama this about the size of volleyball in about august will start producing queens and they will produce about four thousand queens an if one of those queens makes it through the winter winter that colonies been successful there's tremendous attrition what we think is happening now is it never gets cold enough to kill the workers it stays warm enough there'd be a food source them defeat on through the winter and the other thing that's happening is this is rather than having a single queen they start the spring was maybe a thousand four thousand workers that made it through the winter and they'll start with thirty five two hundred and fifty queens and each one of those claims can produce over her lifetime twenty thousand eggs if you do the math they're gonna make a huge call and he would that many queens and that many workers to provide for the sounds like you've that you were kind of december i do but it is i am terribly impressed with what these things are doing how come they build something this quickly i've never been stung while just examining a nest i've told people before i've stood under a very large nesting gave a fifteen minute tv interview and and the washington capitals they're not they never bothered getting that confidence required a lot of breathing and a lot of exposure out there and realizing that yes they don't care if they're not well mystery thanks for telling us about it you're welcome good luck to you work this summer by by charles ready isn't entomologist with alabama cooperative extension system we reached him in auburn it's the case the fry versus fry that's caused in international clash between two of the biggest potatoes in the world of frozen food bank potato number one is mccain foods the new brunswick tober traders later sells a product called the twisted potato as its name suggests the twisted potato is a slice of potato that mccain twists fries flavors and freezes and tobaks makeup and binge at your convenience the problem is a big potato number two also so slices of potatoes which it also twist fries flavors and freezes for reheating they're called sidewinder and they are they exclusive product of idaho's multi billion dollar j are simply corporation and if you've noticed similarities already is between side wanders and the twisted potato you're not frying solo so jay are simply this lawyered up at his fighting exclusive rights over it slightly askew fried potato the team mccain insist there competitor is making a hashtag shift things because the two products are quote substantively different they've done some calculations defined that the twisted potatoes five to six millimeter stickers and its rival is smooth surface instead of ridged interns both clockwise end counterclockwise wise whereas the sidewinder only wines one way these vital issues are wending there waitress courts in canada u s and europe and in she captain of the ship as it rescued dozens of migrants from the seas off the coast of libya now carola cat has been arrested for bringing the sea watch three to win italian port captain the cat the duct in line producer over the weekend following a tense standoff with italian authorities that standoff began after the ship brought the migrants aboard from an inflatable raft last month the move defied banned by italy's interior minister matteo salvini he closed italian ports to rescue skew vessels like the sea watch three heidi psychotic is a spokesperson for see watch international end the cultural mediator on board the sea watch three we reached methodical in the ship off the coast of long producer mistake what's the latest you've heard about you're ship's captain corona rick after a while the latest we've heard just kind of what's been in the world news is well which is that after she was arrested a she was taken off the ship and into house arrest in producer and then earlier today she was moved to sicily accompanied by at the onset which is the the border control or the police 'em and she was interrogated now she's again under house arrest a and so were awaiting a yet the ruling on on this italy's interior minister matteo salvini has said it's completely illegal for your ship to have entered the port of line producer an end he has called the captain criminal what's your response this fits within wider you policy to criminalize those who rescue people at c a m including captains and other a voluntary crews on different ships and in general also other people who work with refugees or provide services to them or even show solidarity to them across europe and so this smear campaign and this cooling a us pirates and criminals and people traffickers an it's oles to distract from the fact that europe as a continent and are you member states including its and they are failing in upholding holding the little everything that we've done on this ship and that corona has done as a captain is entirely lawful and respect international maritime a little and human rights slow in that she rescued people in distress which is a duty it's legal obligation and and then she took them to the nearest safe port trying to end their suffering rather than from long emergency that they were in which is exactly what he has done and while the sea watch three was was making its way into into port while it with docking looking ms and i kept a collided with a police boats why did that happen so one of the spokespersons or one of the police officers of the guardia female onset of whom that boat was in between the piano and the see what's three had said that they were deliberately place they're replacing themselves there to hinder us from ducking and it was very clear see intention of are captain of the c which three to talk into the port the maneuver was very very slow and so a slight contact happened that obviously was not intended in any hall style way a and after the slight contact the the boats finally decided to make its way out the other vessels so at which could have done far far earlier but it was trying to hinder us physically talking and the point of that is that they have no political will for a forty guests on the ship to actually stepped foot on european soil what was it like on the boat before it was docked for for those people that you're talking about before the crew what what what were they facing before the boat talked so we were facing an incredibly long emergency so you could compare it to an ambulance trying to make its way to the hospital and being hindered from every direction in and of itself being rescued at sea is a highly traumatic experience and it is an emergency that is made worse by the fact that the people we had on board departed from libya where they faced incredible human rights abuses they were imprisoned and tortured soul the slaves the stories are horrific and so being on the ships and so long people needed to get on a on shore as soon as possible to get on which care whether that was physical care psychological care and so being stuck in here was reminiscent of being in prison even though we treat them well and with respect to what's likely happen to them now well to them we hope that they get incorporated into we know it is a failing system of reception of refugees in europe but at to some extent their rights can be guaranteed so the actions and the circumstances under which they arrive tonight should not affect their further treatment in europe but obviously there is other question of how will they be treated by society the first thing that these people that met some arrival import was right wing activist shouting racist slurs at them and saying you're not welcome here and go back is that really a place where he wants to be a place where you feel safe i don't know well again the interior minister matteo salvini dini says italy's just defending its borders against human trafficking and he has in fact accused people like you that run these rescue boats your organization of working with smugglers to bring migrants to europe for profit what do you see that i almost want to laugh because that is a that is an unbelievably misleading accusation that you know when we are doing the job the governments are supposed to be doing we are out there trying to make sure that people don't die while they look for safety when we meet people that see the first thing they ask us is are you gonna take us back then they'd be affected the smugglers back to the human traffickers to the people who have locked us up and beaten us and treated us like animals to liking us to them and compare them is unbelievably a miss construed as a ruler rocket those arrests going to change how the sea watch operates it's in the mediterranean snow we stand by a the laws that we work to respect we sent via humanitarian an imperative and we will continue to do this work smith addicts thank you so much thank you we reach tidy psychotic aboard the sea watch three off the coast of lumped into saw the captain of the sea watch cut all loaded up cat is under house arrest redocking her rescue ship in what italy's interior senior ministers called an act of war you could be more about this at our website cbc dot ca slash h it is or fault that's what el salvador's new president is saying about the death of oscar roberto martinez ramirez and his twenty three month old daughter valerie a the father and daughter whose bodies were photographed lying face down in the rio grande last week they died while trying to reach the united states yesterday their bodies were returned to el salvador and relatives are holding a private funeral ceremony in san salvador today president naive book kelly is critical of usa governments treatment of migrants at the southern border but he says the blame for what he calls forceful migration false first and foremost on salvadorians shoulders most of the people if you ask them they're fleeing for two main reasons one it's because of insecurity they don't feel safe so they feel safer to cross it that's her three frontiers and other things that may happen in the in the row to the united states because they feel more secure than living here so we wanna make our country safer the second is that will make a country that's more prosperous and it can provide jobs decent paying jobs for for our people so people have this opportunity if a decent job a decent education and healthcare system insecurity i i know that first migration will be reduced to ciro an anti other thing about what the united states is doing i think they are approaching this the wrong way history has shown that did this will not stop migration it will not stop at the things that were trying to do here that may start my forcible migration we agree in what we wanna do between different reasons they don't want people and i want our people here people don't feed they're homeless because they want to people through their homes because they feel they have to why because they don't have a job because they are being threatened by gangs they know how makes things like water education health advocates beacon street blamed to any any any any other country where our blame i mean what what did they play they play the united states they've they've they've let us help defend our country it is it is our full i kelly became president of el salvador one month ago today and says his country must take responsibility for the deaths salvadorans trying to reach the united states including a father and daughter who drowned in the rio grande last week even in his final days from his hospital bed in new york louie alvarez continued advocating for his fellow nine eleven responders he wasn't n y pd detective and after the september eleventh attacks he was one of the thousands of people who went to work at ground zero mr alvarez says it was that works at led to his colorectal cancer this weekend mr alvarez died he was fifty three just a few weeks ago he was testifying in washington dc alongside comedian jon stewart mr alvarez cold on politicians to permanently extend financial support to the september eleventh victim compensation fund here's some of what he said this fund is not a ticket to paradise it is dead and provide for families one we can nothing more you said you would never forget while i'm here to make sure that you you may may come down here the day before my sixty ninth round chemo and i'm gonna make sure you never forget to take cabs in nine eleven responders john field was sitting behind luli alvarez that day washington mr feel is a nine eleven responder the founder of an advocacy group called the feel good foundation we reached him in new york john seal i'm so sorry for your loss what does it say about mr alvarez even in his final days even when he was clearly so ill he still advocating for nine eleven responders a sure she'll get choked up 'em it shows type of man that lou he was a man just like so many other nine eleven responders who give themselves most people when they know they're gonna leave this world then they're gonna pass away in the near future they wanna spend our loved ones and friends and and make colonel ranger is louise chose to 'em helped tens of thousands of people before he left this world then that should be embracing emulated a by everybody whether you're in the united states and canada around the world it's it's about giving it'd be self it's about humanity in 'em where we were both example that he was talking about heading to his sixty nine to sixty ninth round of chemotherapy and put that off so that he could travel to washington to give his story when you hear him talking that way and you were just there behind him what do you recall law recorder took us forget him there 'em listen i was in charge of everything my planning my schedule and enhance picking those who were gonna testify in the when we actually do it he didn't hesitate and to see louie a travel spend the night with us tonight before and the hotel to get him to capitol hill to get him to testify i m i i watched a warrior go out on the battlefield one last time and a i'm so proud of my friend and a you know a my conversation with lou is is he said i gave him purpose and i gave him hope but a lou you made louie made me a better man and i said louie thank you for allowing me to be a friend it's been an honor so am i missing i love louie daily but we have work to do and we want us to finish will work and his passion won't be invading when we get this legislation passed we talk about that work it can you describe for for people who might not have seen it impact that his statement had in that committee room on the on the the members of congress who were listening to him yeah well let me tell you some impact in that room that will be testimony 'em was a felt around the world the emails and phone calls the social media america is now taking a holy alvarez family and louise love everywhere even in passive and and from the moment he gave his testimony till now 'em we have the support of the people around the world and the american people and it's gonna be up to congress in the senate now to a sense of urgency and to come together together in a bipartisan bipartisan manner and do the right thing in a we doing this fellow in you know just this morning i did cnn interview and i told made the blasio give louisa keyed in new york city and the mayor 'em from the presidential central campaign trail call louise widow and said the movie's gonna get the key the new york city so i'm gonna make sure that movie our as is never forgotten and he just be accurate he deserved can you take us back to two thousand and one and tell us what kind of work mr doing a just after the nine eleven attacks well you know what everybody else was doing that what you find that remove debris in search for remains a you know we don't need nine eleven to call cops and firefighters any i met heroes heroes way before they put on their badges in their uniforms than what louie in a an army of cops and firefighters and construction work is did they did yeoman's work and it was the single largest active volunteerism up country's ever seen somebody from every congressional districts in united states came during the clean up that lasted ten months many of them went home and got sick and many of them passed away like lori and sadly louise not gonna be the last person died from nine eleven later cancer and that's why we're finally get legislation passed how long was he working at ground zero he worked at three months you know absorption do it in his mouth and skin we ate there we slept there we cry day we went to the bathroom they we work there we were exposed twenty four seven to those toxins how did you and literally become friends you know sadly i mean most people when they're sick and they come to me for help and i met louise when he was sick and i've always made it a promise some nice stuff that they're doing this fifteen years not to get close to people on that i help but louie was a handful of people that i allowed myself to get close to because he had that contagious personality and you could not help it loved him and i think god's cursing me from my previous flight because everybody's i love dearly and i get close to a seems to die from a nine eleven related cancer how's your health i've had thirty eight surgery i mean chronic pain twenty four seven on northward again eighty percent of my body 'em i can't complain i'm alive i'm alive and i've been given a chance to advocating been blessed to fight for fifteen years for the injustice the nine eleven community has been served 'em so 'em complaining is not on the table from me but physically mentally this is taking its toll but louise pass and has a it's it's it's just crushing my soul and it's gone past the physical and mental pain that i see on a daily basis and this one this one is just gonna be hard to recover from it i don't expect me to ever truly recover and what about these september eleventh victim compensation sation find after he testified the members of that committee unanimously voted to to move on with this legislation but the fight is not over his head no we gotta get the bill a out of the house a within the next week until then the senate's gotta get it and they gotta get it done before august third before they go in there recess 'em listen we've up the rhetoric we're up the pressure and we took matters into our own hands and we're not gonna let elected officials determined our faith 'em very going to mourn today and tomorrow and wednesday low we were gonna be with his family but we're gonna pick up or swords and go back to dc the following weekend a were gonna keep the pressure on them we're gonna keep a put on their necks and we're not gonna let up until we get this done and louise night well john feel i again i'm i'm sorry for the loss of your friend good like what the rest of you're fighting thanks for talking to us you've got god bless you all and toronto john feel is a friend of louise alvarez and nine eleven responders himself he was in new york to see pictures of the to them when they went to washington last month visit our website cbc don't see any slash h and i canadian flags waving across the country is the nation marks kennedy today and the canadian olympic committee hopes to keep those maple leafs 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FA Cup Final

"ESPN game. Yes. Hello, welcome. This is head in the game. Your alternate. Take on the week's major sporting event. Now, I'm Jamie laying and this week. The spotlight is on the oldest football competition in the world. Of course, a speak of the FA Cup. Now, the current holders are the mighty blues. Chelsea yes. My blood runs blue. But this is final is between Manchester City, and what alongside me to kick around a few facts and stories the nippy dribbling wizard who can whip in teasing cross to finish with a bicycle kick. My trustee number two Rachel stringer. Get better invested these interests me, they if you were going to pick me in your team, and you saw me you would straightaway. Go that guy can kick a mean bicycle kick. But you know, when you have the lineup, and you're like, okay. The last person might be you. And that's because everyone else is injured. Sorry, Jamie breach. Listen, we got to stop this banter. Okay. Because voices ready. I see here we go ready voice. The FA Cup final in sixty seconds. The first Cup. Final was held in eighteen seventy two at the Kennington oval. That's right. The Cricket Ground when wondrous defeated Royal Engineers, one nil the original trophy was stolen in eighteen ninety-five from a shop window in Birmingham and has never been found Wembley stadium. First hosted the final one thousand nine hundred three with an official attendance of one hundred twenty six thousand although estimates put the numbers highest three hundred thousand a total of forty three clubs have won the FA Cup with arsenal lifting the famous trophy a record thirteen times all economically clubs can enter the Cup this season a total of seven hundred thirty six clubs competed in the seventies and eighties. The whole days television was dedicated to the big match and featured a hostess special shows, and it was always sunny watching clip. You don't believe me? It took over one hundred thirteen years for the first player to be sent off in a Cup final Kevin Moran of majesty United in one thousand nine hundred five spare thought for Leicester City. They reached the final four times. But never won the fastest goal was scored by Louis Sahara for twenty five seconds for Everton. Although he ended up losing sight against Chelsea in two thousand nine Chelsea the card holders. After reading Manchester United one million two thousand eighteen. Voices getting better and better that each week right dime to introduce our. I guess it's ESPN's Dale Johnson. And Alex shore, gentlemen. How are you? Very well. Thank you very much yet. Oh, fine over here before we kick off things. Have we got either teams in the FA Cup final this year? No, not quite United fan as you can tell a my very sad tone of voice. So no, not quite do. You know what? When I walked in here. I said that's a sad guy. Oh, fantastic. Nice to meet you to find a lost January moving on Dale. Yes. Wednesday is we've been nowhere near Nethercutt farm for many years since ninety three I feel your pain ever hear forest fan holding donor. Rachel asked you who you supported who do support is this some type of bumps a for Chelsea beating Wednesday. Savage. How it begins gentleman. It begins. Right. People of a certain age. Will remember the final is one of the highlights of the cabinet? Now. It wasn't just a sports event. It was more of a national obsession everything stopped for it. Why has it lost that impact of the last few years? Do you think Alex? What do you think there's so many reasons rich Amy I'd say brought top the tree primarily is become this monster with all this money. There's so much state. These days champ is Vegas. Come so important for the big clubs. They rotate their team far too much the fans that painful -til quit a ticket an essay in there be team play. This doesn't have the same sort of magic is back in the day. Don't you think it's growing a little bit more has done in recent years? There have been some magic moments are don't think he's ever going to be possible to recreate the ethical walls. I mean, I'm older than anybody else in this room by when I was I watching football that was the only football game. You got to watch shows in the mid eighties. It was only just in the mid eighties. Where you start to get the old league game on TV. So the vestment. People if they wanted to see a big match it was going to be the FA Cup final. Which is why became such an event until really the primary came along on the TV coverage became so saturated. So that's why he was such an all day event. Now when you call so much to watch how you ever gonna get back to that time. I know that in recent years from the TV broadcasters digital broadcasters of tried to go back to making it an all day event where the star nine o'clock and bringing all different people in through off to the game, but never gonna have thought same special status anymore. You have all these whose how'd you say if the FA coffin and whatnot, but like off is going policy in because of how big the primarily the Champions League of go. What was it about the funding? That was so great was it. The TV coverage was at the songs was the history. It was like the pride of Britain, almost you know, what I mean that was really blessed. My the first efficacy finals Acura member watching on TV you go Coventry in Spurs three two. And then you've got Wimbledon beating Liverpool. One nil. You've got the measure side Darby fine Liverpool. One three two then you've got me. And crystal policies who's three all winter extra time. So I was very blessed to the I I remember watching sitting down. So when you'll I won't is Coventry three Spurs to with an unbelievable game. Then you solve while. I'm gonna watch next year. When I wanted to next year, you would sit down it'd be on BBC won't it be starting days, you'd be watching the parade follow the teen Busca from the hotel all through the streets, and you real sense of occasion. Now that's come back again. Like I say, but it was lost for a long period. And when you lose that, then there's a disconnect that people go out and do the things, and it's no longer such an event, I tried to guess to make it more by having the semi files as well at Wembley or don't get start. He's a disgrace, boys. The point in making Wembley, this massive showpiece final when you're already there in the first place. He went to the semi-solid. Well, we have done it. Now played at Wembley brilliant. I agree with you Alex Jones. We're we're now making a friendship. So I I agree with you called me sad to win back. Hey, listen. They did that. And I can tell you until because in the nineteen Ninety-three semifinals are still Pittsburgh. So they played semi final at Wembley and the other semifinal with Sheffield Wednesday against Sheffield United funds the tube. Sheffield clubs are like, well, if ostlund Spurs a plane this finally, Wembley, why weekly awesome. He finally Wimbley. Would you play the semi's at Wembley? Yes. Or no, no. I wouldn't I would take them around the grounds. And obviously in Wembley. I opened one of the reasons he was done was to pay back Wimbley. Yeah. I think we've got passed that threshold now, I don't think he's necessary. I'm sure some of these smaller teams of got to the semi finals of love their days. Our Wembley wolves did who haven't been barely in thirty years until this year. I just think if you moved the semifinals through neutral venue, it would make special occasion, surely full, the what food kind of fans and some of the what for players that have never been anywhere near final shortly. It's kind of a once in a lifetime opportunity for them. Right. Yeah. This is the biggest game in somebody's plays lives. This be they'll define their career. What all your career for this of moment. It's much of them. And the fans certain players have been there seen it done. It cleverness one the league at United forever. And also the FIS is a great day out. What I say day out. I always find phrase a bit awkward with the FA Cup going for a day. It's nice. It's really important for my. She really wanna win. Okay. You have a beer and all that day out in that Dale for you a picnic on the hill. They out too biz. Got you all version of a day out. Really see it was a day out. But that's just me just been city. Day out. You'll thinking you'll you'll going because you're the United firm. When you go to Wembley, you don't get half. No four kickoff. Goats the mushroomed go get their hours before you meet friends you walk down Wembley way with all the funds to get into the ground. You get when you walk in you say the size of Wembley. You see all the funds of your own club waving flags and singing with a beach balls and all some massive occasions massive day out to give you a sense of how big the as Elson Joan is it on the re-present at the club and a concert that day anymore even cancel his concert for the FA Cup. Would you in the FA could do to make the whole thing? More prestigious off got so many ways you can say difficult. I one seizing. So that's hot clubs. Don't play it in the early rounds. Does anyone really want to see you know, veto see in the third round the FA Cup? If much prophecy Atkinson paying United on their on their own. Okay. Green you on that one. What's the second one? Whereas contentious one place in the champions for the winners day. I'm going to ask you know. What should we change was? Good about the FA Cup two things. The whole legend of the upset. People talk about these sites for years and years to come people will watch that running Radford goal the Hertford against Newcastle after year after year, and why would decry the FAQ stead house? You said before these goals will keep on happening and the funds of these smaller clubs will continue to remember these events in these matches the certain United funds employees who have the who had come to play their ground. Can you imagine? If you're sitting United found you spend most of your lifetime in the National League or the National League sell forever league is and then you suddenly managed to get a couple of good drills on you get through difficult rounds and gets the fifth round. And you get asked no plane at your ground on y'all semi plastic pitch. And you've got these plays coming into this little small dressing room. A you Sewell delights of the Premier League and everything that's putting the plan for them. And they've got to come to y'all little tiny ground, and you've got that little small chance that you could beat them. You could get to the next round. And that's what the coupe will always have. Passionate you are about. Now. I can really feel it. Jay johnson. I'm just wiped away tears. From that speech. Listen guys, you gonna stay with us because we are going to announce the result of this week's ESPN head in the game vote for the best FA Cup final ever ESPN head in the game. And they come final five number five. It's nineteen Seventy-nine and also lead Manchester United two-nil with just five minutes to go. United equalised scoring twice in quick succession with all the final whistle gone arsenals Allen, Sunlen produces an injury-time when to get the gun as the cop number four Spurs three two win against Manchester City in nineteen Eighty-one with Ricky has one ago, one of the greatest ever seen at Wembley number three in one of the most amazing football fairytales Wimbledon's one nil. Win over Liverpool in nineteen Eighty-eight the so-called crazy gang being a non league team just nine years earlier number two underdogs country city's three two win over Glenn huddles Tottenham in nine hundred eighty seven the unfashionable Sky Blues first and only Cup win and number one. One Liverpool's dramatic win over West Ham in two thousand six the game that had everything losing three two seconds to go. Stephen Girard's, thirty odd. Screamer force the match into extra-time with the Merseysiders eventually defeating the heartbroken Amazon penalties and that is your FA Cup. Final top five. Right. The two thousand six FA Cup. Final between Liverpool and West Ham has been voted the greatest Cup final ever and deservedly. So without a doubt. Now, it was an amazing match. We have very excited say because we get to speak to someone who was a major part of the incredible match its former West Ham goalkeeper Shakai Hislop check. How are you? My friends. I'm doing very well. We have fantastic. Thank you for joining us today. Nice to have you all and there's a lot of us in this room here. So we've got Alex and Dale as well from ESPN. So we gonna ask you a couple of questions about that final. When I mentioned two thousand six every Cup final Liverpool West Ham. What's instinctively comes to mind, the feelings that you get a bit of a mixed bag actually, the tune does two thousand six after go final was my laugh given English football to go on that kind of a note on the one hand and a bit Showa tasting. But on the other, you know, give them a book ended was a fourteen year professional career for me. I look back on every phone memories. As well. I'm from a prisoner note after I'd went to the World Cup of trying to big or so it kind of sits in on place for me Greenpeace and teams of the game. But the result making it feel a little bit odd. Sacco wall into all shoe is always see west side with doing so well, so close to absolute glory, what did you fail when Gerald is on the edge of the box winding up for that shot right to the end of the game. I remember catering the tunnel. You come move onto that before minutes of injury time played and Jared actually went down in Johnson down, you know, just about fifteen or twenty hours outside of okay? In the middle of the pitch. Lena school only have the ball in his possession. Each is topped it though for throwing ten or fifteen yards from all corners flag. And as much as Liverpool give us back through there. Then you know, kinda codes us down. I made it hard for us to clear the board and the Clarence as it happened fella, streets, esteemed. They're out. I like I see movements really was down on the floor. Believable cough. Cramp. So nobody had picked him up. And all of a sudden he pops his free as good even through a long wheel. And I mean, he hit that ball as well as anybody is hit one. And there I see let's go keep on the wrong end of it. It was pretty much in from the time left his expertise to pick themselves up off the floor and score that you know, you know, he's capable of it. He's still doing the only thing is going to happen. Because it does unfortunately. So yeah, it was an absolute kicking teeth. And again that I thought we had done enough to win cupping fantastic season for west westbound there I back into the Premier League for me going into that game a near there's going to be Milan English football. I thought what agree to go out. And then all of a sudden, we're just injury-time left. Not dream was dashed shock. I'm not going to rub it in. But I just watched that goal again. And really when like a bullet you had no chance whatsoever. When you saw go past you, did you think, oh, no what emotions went through you. Yeah. You see on the strange thing is a sort all the way, you know, so him coming onto a on a so he's just trying to react to it. But even so as a goalkeeper, you're conditioned to react and have a goal through this effort that regardless from telling me. I think he's new clothes. And at that point, you just hoping that you hear it hit the inside of the coolest thing, I'm stay out or just narrowly wide. But of course, it ended up any back of the net, and he called kinda cogos while as a result. And when you that close to the end, and until to have it snatched away, and that way, I it's it's heartbreaking. And it does take the window to the Sears. Momentum was always Liverpool run into grin into extra time. Just how much does it affect the team? You know, how do you motivate yourself again for extra time, and then penalties speak where amongst each other about football deserved. If it really were just from the clue from only greatest players are generation, you believe that is not going to happen. Again. Let's say don't know the next time not twice in the team. We shouldn't he we we played the better football up to that point. And you hope to take it into extra-time. And I thought we well in extra time we suffered in that Mallon hair with rent down with an injury. We already. Meet us up to two cents or he just had to steal. And we ended up play a considerable part of TIMMY, second half of extra time with effectively ten men. And as it happens that we did have one good chance for for all we and low and behold, it felt to the Marlon Harewood who couldn't do a whole lot with it from sixty hours. He was who he he could barely move. And not just right now, it goes against you at that point. It's a match that you kind of sit down and and relive you conditionally suffer the professionals to take your take things on an even keel. You take wins and losses. You take it performances. And that's how you keep your science. He's that's how you keep going as much as a look back on it with mixed feelings. I don't hop on it at the time. I didn't have time to help it. Because as I mentioned, you know, trying to big gonna play in their first ever would Cup just a few weeks after that. But also, I think we're gonna mention that people may forget that you actually saved Sammy Hippias spoke kick, but unfortunate pop and Teddy Sheringham all of your team. It's missed that penalties too. So you did you bit you played your heart out? You know, if it wasn't for you your team would have had no chance. Yeah. And these finals, of course, you you somebody's got to win. Somebody's got to lose. You look back on that season. I think west I'm as a team could be very proud of our compliment looking back on nightside. Maybe lack of experience and maybe not enough players like Teddy Sheringham to kind of lead by experience. You could ask the question which might bring back some even worse summation check like you just lost the FA Cup final you're in the dressing room. What does a losing dressing room? Look like sound like feel like a tough to be for a number of reasons and as much as you got players like Teddy Sheringham who wanted told you in the course of his career. Putting a brief is on it. I need had my ups and my own during the course of of a fourteen year career in in English football team, young inexperienced. It did not been dot close to major silverware. And and to to how that game as it. Did I think was heartbreaking for them? But then maybe. He force them to grow up and recognize him the realities of football, and I hope SUV them all or pets at you in the course of their own careers. Got one question on the penalty shoot our shock. You see these days you say we're seeing Ben foster with an ipod going showing them exactly where everyone was going to take a penalty might die. You see all the players with bits of pepper down socks. And they've got notes about everything. How did you prepare for the penalty? Shootout. Did you have anything like that? Just a case of walking on making a guess on every penalty kick, we need to have access to that kind of technology back into this. I remember different thoughts or techniques because using in going into Parenti shootouts BB, you know, I'll be five kickers maybe two regular Parenti take other three on. So I can result. You just wait and see what they're doing. And hope that'd be pressure of situation kinda gets to them. I the other is you you take some heads from of their run up TV. The have a look at one thing or another. I also. Own that this new you just kind of take each situation as it is trying to figure out, you know, is this a center phone is essentially, how are they generally the easy outage to grow across your body. So I right footer with to to to his laughing we go keep us. Right. And you know, if you stay up long enough, you kind of force them to to do that. So there's there's any number of ways to approach. I just kinda I as I see it because I at least three quarters because you have you know, nothing about you just try to take us from from their own body language, Sacramento. Save you play into fake funnels. We we call. It forget the the also game in nineteen ninety eight. Can you just give us a an insult insa? What an FA Cup final day looks like just before the game and the excitement the anti pation looking back on new Kossovo. Also, it's a long day, but an exciting, you know, you kinda spend enough to it. There's no one to talk about. And then, you know, you're dealing with with Krishna situations and tickets, and everybody's coating and. And then one on and then on the did. So she's invariably financially. Weather's always nice. You have to shoot silica prepared and build up your drafting. I'm looking forward to it. Which is why I say, so I think the experience about situation lends itself to whoever does come out and talk because otherwise it can be really overwhelming D And Renault different for us, especially for west time those than six especially down at the Millennium Stadium, and you know, everybody having your top of that fun. You get down. It's an exciting. But can really be overwhelming its second question as well. And FA Cup games. A whole we kind of saying some people may love them, some hate them. What was your kind of ranking of an FA Cup much compared to other matches that you played in. I I love the epica because of how much it meant to me growing up. I I've football grew up around two Beagles, and but that was a show on television back back in the day called road. Hambly which is all about the Cup. So I grew up knowing of the ethica believing their Cup was not just yours, but most prestigious Cup competition and club football to be a positive it meant and an incredible to me just just as a football five. I've never thought that they professional let alone play in a Cup final. And then to be there in enjoy the did on on a couple of kitchens meant an incredible amount. And I could never don't pay those experiences or what the ethic of meant to be then or continues to mean to me. No, I understand with our football and Champions League. Being what it is. And the really what it is that audience, but the child in me will always remember the ethic Cup for what it goes down. And that's how I feel about it now. And I thank you that have on chain Tobago. I can pick to you watching it as young stir. And you know, when they new year in a final, you know, what were your friends and family thinking of that everyone's trying to be agreed to that televisions? And you know, we don't have that many success stories to devote sitting nothing about level another professional football. Couple of. Earlier back nine thousand nine hundred ninety s and of course, Dwight your remind test United. I remember exactly how the country was groups during imagined snags would win Champions League running on that Trump a winning season. This not see him never. But from a country smallest trying to being able with not having as much to about the country again, glued to the ethic of finances. C one of their own competed. Football's highest Sakhawy involved in an FA Cup. Final song those six, and I don't think we did one in one thousand nine either. I remember. He missed out. No, I let me tell you. If I was trying to buy the rights of every single corpus. And nobody could ever hear me. Did you get to keep the suit says? Well, yeah, we did. I've no idea where they are not. Shack. And thank you so much for joining us in the studio that is so Connie be real legend and mazing insight into what the FA Cup out. She generally feels like thank you so much for joining us. Really? Appreciate it. A really good fun live in his beverage. Thank you, very Levy to hear them. Thank you goodbye. Right. Yes. ESPN? Shock. What a lovely lovely man and the legend in the sport. Yeah. Size area stories loved them. So we can reflect on the top five. Do we think deserve a number one? What do you think? Alex. I mean, it wasn't a life over you read about it. And you've seen the pitches. The Matthews follow nine hundred fifty three sustaining Matthews. The only player to be knighted while playing the game funding on the FA Cup at the third time of asking black hole for and three is called the Matthews. Fella. No. So I wonder how STAN Mortensen fills because he scored a hat trick. But it's called the Matthews final. But that will be my one because what it meant to methods, and how topsy turvy you have just said, no, it's not deserve. It. You could assess insight. That here for hopefully, what do you think? Do you think deserve a number one spot? I think he is a classic. Absolutely classic is going to be the top of the list for for anybody. I mean for me personally because he was the first FA Cup. Final. For the Coventry three Spurs two-game because no one expected it keep housing school at one of the best goals, you'll see an absolutely majestic diving header and then of calls the horrific own-goal by Gary mother that gave the victory to Coventry and extra time. But one game is known the which I'm really sorry to bring this one Sheffield Wednesday with two and a little pin the nine hundred and sixty six co final then lost three two on to the state of the only team to be to gills on losing finally normal time with eleven men on the pitch. There are many Cup finals that were missed and probably should have been in the list rates. Do you have any other favorites? Well as long as favored by the ninety one game Spurs versus forest. I mean for us should definitely have won that game just saying boys when were more, obviously, I was very very young as one years old Gaza should have been sent off not stretch it off what about Wigan beating Manchester City in two thousand thirteen dot was huge the story of that was that was the they got relegated. So they won the FA Cup. And then the next week. They went down, you know, that's. Kind of. Stories ever Alex your city fan. So would feel about that quite quite fantastic for Wigan. And I'm sure there's some sort of gag about Watson elementary some sort of defending this elementary Watson zone getting that what a moment for him and for Wigan them. Sure, lots of Wigan funds would take the relegation for the ethical. You've always got the chance to get back to the primitive some point. How many times again we're gonna Affleck get to FA Cup final and other chance of winning it and beating the team. I mentioned a city in the circumstances. What about the two thousand fourteen arsenal hall match? What do you think about that? One other game actually full enough and tuned to hell after eight minutes that attempts to mission gneration three Neil. No believe what they were seeing cars in the press box. And everyone's just looking around as just a gas. That is really gonna mess this final up cost. You remember it's been so long since trophy supposedly end of the drought. This was the nailed on win. And then go go back, right? Just before half-time Siemens. I'll go in you know, there's only one thing happening here that was because all is free kick three to Oslo ostlund the end. But it was a brilliant Epoca final. We go back a few years nineteen Seventy-three rates. You know what I'm talking about? Remind me I was around that. I'm sure you were live than new Sunlen defeating leads one new down to big one the Bob Stoker. Final say. Another iconic ethic moment, plenty of them moving on to talk about the crazy gang. And I guess the reason they're in our top five is because they became such a story. They've been relieved chasta about so much. There's documentaries on them the larger than life characters that came out of that game against Liverpool. It's out so one that would be maybe a little bit higher up in your opinion. I mean one thing about this game. Is it didn't have loads of goals, which is why doesn't really get mentioned so much, but it's no simple as the tune in bit of pepper. You've gotta remember Liverpool with this all conquering force of English football, and how being for ten twenty years and just went everything that can befall most of the time. And then they get the final against Wimbledon. This small team that come through the divisions against all the odds. And then they were playing the mighty Liverpool. Final. There was only one team that could possibly win this game. And of course, a penalty to Liverpool. John Aldridge is going to have to score it on. It was saved the first ever penalty save. And if it could find as well by Besson and Laura. Sanchez gain. The winner is incredible Wimbledon were a non league team nine years before that which adds to their whole legend of the Cup. And I'll always remember was it since commentary the crazy gang of beating the culture club. That's right. Just a fantastic line to some of the day. And after a word number three already. That is why we love the FA Cup in my opinion. It's stories like that. We're going to talk about Saturday's game. Okay. Now. Honestly, do what I have any chance to that playing one of the best teams that have ever played the domestic game. It's Manchester City. What do you think Alex absolutely where we've just been speaking about city being expected to be weakened and they completely messed up and what they're having fantastic season. They're packed full Likud players telephones in exceptional form. There's no pointing you're going to steamroll because it's been a long hard season for them. And you get these unexpected result. Sometimes okay, it would be slightly unexpected. It wouldn't be a massive show Wofford of how to find season you can't say that of God, no chance at a lot of people will feel bumming Mancha. Fans are going into game. Despite all the successive hounded in last night decade beggar into most games fearing the worst they'll look into this game thinking that we're gonna lose it Wofford. So it's almost a home game for walford at Wembley absoluteness city of still go. I mean, they've had all these rich Isen success last couple years. They still this thing called typical city. So whereas something bad could happen. It will happen to city. And I think I feel fading. That was the game boys are gonna stop you there for a second. Because we have our SEPA fans who are gonna come in the studio now will you come back later for the quiz, bringing wild horse. You can keep you in love it. Right telling process superfan feature. Now in a moment, we'll speak to Manchester City, superfan, TV and radio presenter, Nutley pike. But I in the studio it's welcome to Wofford seep event. Michael yet? How are you my friend? I'm kidding here. So you a what fan? Yes. Okay, fine. We covered that bit. How long have you been fan? And why I hate you asking why he defined by break show. You misheard me? How long have you been fan and why such as well? I was dad's first game. So it was go east go to the games without oversee from bushy around the corner ever since then really and. Family fits best. May we used to go him and his dad's going up in Jesse host? This is true. I heard that you a mascot. The penalty. Shootout on me, you know, this time. It's the Perisher our school mascot was rubbish that we lost freedom. So you're against the Moscow and the penalty. To separates you separate cones. But you know, when you take a penalty at halftime as well. You don't actually get what for keepers. So who did you get located now one just go? Well, obviously. But also was quite strange by which is to raise that you school that penalties a kid, but you're a mascot last year. You know? Got you. Stupid again. It was okay. But how is it the, you know, an adult Spurs fan because I would that's what you expect right living in the area and things like there are no for Embiid. She's just round the corner from warfare. And we'll say it's fun being also also told and finance. I mean, it's great being Wolfer fan. You know, it's pouring in the lower leagues coming up through the ranks and way at the semi final. So I was working by mentioned nip out to the pub. And I was the only person watching the game the only Wofford fan, and I was going mental by the end of it everyone. The publishing mentioned nip out. Yeah. Nineteen minutes. Civil matters nipping out like going home. Go the stuff to cover Nacer Rennick. Rennick all mates with everyone. Was there pushing it can work with? Well. We didn't go to semifinal. You watched. It kind of I work at work in a pub viable tickets for the final. Yes. Up to here. Yeah. For sure. How do you feel as a fan is an amazing thing that you're in the final as incredible absolutely is mind blowing you when when that they're not funded with some blue against moved is incredible. It was just your own before as well. For fan. Growing up seeing playing league to gain renegade been meteoric attained to now being ethical follow is mazing. It's incredible. Just hold that thought about being in the final because you've got take it. But I think you've failed to tell us what you're missing to go to that final four, isn't it? Important. It's more nephews christening are missing on the lifetime. Always you know. It's all may I would miss Anna heart. Exactly exactly this conversation to be had horrible. I haven't I she told my sister yet. So fully goes our begging recalls. Yeah. I was just gonna say how are they feeling? But they don't know. No mom knows. And sees she's well, she's just has over here. But interesting enough, Michael this is this is what second appearance in the final. But you're probably too young to remember the. Yeah, I am what does the atmosphere around what people excited are they nervous. What is it? Like the town is just is completely you walk around town. Everyone's wearing Wolford shirts. Now, you know that bunting off the final all pubs zip on display with them barbecues. Everything it's it's it's going to be a whole day, which is incredible. It's great. You know, it's going to win or lose. It's apply. It's kind of all day, and they they wear are you gonna get back the christening and celebrate. Been better, Nick. He he started off with ads downfall having a few points. Enjoy the game. And we will only go back and continue as you can. Jan you're saris Atta christening that'd be bad. No, you celebrate the Cajun's ins and being part of it. I hope you've got a president. So this is the best thing to happen to what food for one hundred twenty one years since Las ethical final. Right. No. This is the best thing to happen to what I for one hundred twenty one year if we win. Not as amazing opposite mazing. How big a deal are you and your fans and your friends would thinking it is we never fall would be in this situation before we go into final is what fans support your beloved team gang in the end the dog. Yes, for sure, but everything we're were as big runs Oguz perhaps hallways was when they went against all Wigan when they went into get re do you think they're going in as an underdog anymore? If what? Underdog to Manchester. How well they've been playing this season. Okay. Farinelli cooking. I wanna ask you something micro d remember Elton John crying during a by. With me I've seen oversee the footage Bor. Loyd then to scene, but the fetishes pretty amazed officious guy Edward Susan. And that just really personifies bought these kind of moments mean to what we know a fashionable club. You know, it's it's it's always fashionable to support your you talk. Them's you live pool's heated, you support your home team. It's it's not what the norm these as really you're going is an underdog. But I guess you're gonna take maybe some hope I guess from like when Wigan beat land city g look games are lacking. Okay. If they could do, and then they got relegated. We can do with playing. Well, we're doing well in the league this year. Sure. Yeah. We're having a phenomenal season amazing season where the team than what we can work when they went into that game. So you know, why not? Yeah, we all massive underdogs. Bob, you go to believe. Right. And you gotta train, and it's not still be on the roads facility. We go to stop that for one second because we have Natalie pike radio and TV presenter who is our man city superfan on the line Natalie. How are you? Good. Thank you. How are you? Good. Thanks for coming on. We've got Michael in this day. Who is what fan you don't just support city your presented for Manchester City f c tell us a little bit about that. Why and fifty square we as an amazing much day experienced an not stay program that puts on for every home game. It'll be. A big stage outside and we have outside bars have outside food paces. And we do like celebrity guests abandoned, we give away we talk about the game. We analyzed the game. You know, do the team she read, and it's brilliant. It takes place two hours before the game every single home game. And yes, I bet used feet a lot of funds as well. When you're doing that job. And let's just hey, you're saying in the buildup to the FA Cup, but they really confident. Yeah. I think most safe funds are confident. But no, I begin. We're not Liverpool funds. We know that we're good. You know, we know that when we played the best football that we can. We know how amazing we are. But we also still remember the days where we were totally rubbish and not that long ago. We were in that fake Cup final when we played wicked, and we will be invited him. And I wish that and I cried. And so we all confident because we know that with the best team in the country on all day. But it was certainly not IRA. And we certainly don't think in the back. We were just mentioning that actually when we're gonna oversee one, and then got relegate, and we're just trying to Michael and this will be about that. And he, you know, he was kind of I guess taking little hope from that moment from the weekend. But if you working the final as well, I know I'm not working to final. I'm just going purely as a fan yet me and my husband are going for the weekend, the baby's staying home. So hopefully, it'll be a nice proper celebratory weekend. I guess you're a couple of who really make a day out a day tripper weekend trip. Of an FA Cup. Final. Definitely. I mean, it's really special. I mean, I'm looking that have been to require a lot of times, you know, in the last eight or nine years, we've really four times we've already will never say to another ethic final and then of the semi finals at the FA Cup while I've been to Wembley a love. But it's just something a bit different about an FA Cup final. You know, it's first trophy that we one of the Montenero the first trophy I ever source Wayne, which the coach. So we always have special memories for us. And yeah, we live in north Wales. So we're going to come down to the big city for the weekend and make a fool weekend of it. Primarily Oeser surprising to say that in this millennium city of only one there at once beating stakes seventeen thousand eleven no very memorable. Okay for neutral. But what do you remember of that day? How amazing was it for you with huge tree specially was and I think trophy that. We'd run the Montenero the first trophy the I had. Ever ever seen swin and until that point in my life. We'd never really worn achieve anything and the biggest game until that point within nine thousand nine and playoff final that we won't worry individual to that took into into the championship to be at Wembley until win. And to win a real trophy for the first time. It was it was absolutely amazing. And I think that's part of the reason why we love their fake up so much. Do not see though some say city the best team to ever plan this country. Okay. You must have to pinch yourself. Sometimes I think this is your team. Oh, yeah. Pinch comes to naming the season tickets for twenty one days. So I got my season ticket in one thousand nine hundred ninety eight when we wearing division two. And we were and then so I seen get relegated gets division to you. Then I got season ticket. And then we had you know year in the championship. Incredible promote it, and then we relegate promote it, and then we'll link it in the primarily this made cable ish so to now be playing the standard. Football that we are with the world's greatest money. Arguably the grades manager ever to to be in football. We some of the world's best players. Oh, yeah. Pinch ourselves every game. We've opposite experiences right now forest fan. So we have the wonderful times. And I wasn't even alive. He won the European Cup. Do is Jamie. Do you know what not gonna ask you a quick questions? Well, this is the cumulation of an incredible season with the first ever domestic treble off for grabs. Does not make the Cup final even more special. I really think it goes to win all fraternities that were available to us in this country in one year would be absolutely phenomenal. Really would just talk. What's been really special seasons? So I'm just going to introduce back. The what for two you found Michael t Netflix? He's been sitting here listening to what you have to say about that final and how much Mike would you like to upset cities chances of that travel? We'd love to be raising the incredible. The thing is thanking the fire now. Okay. I'm gonna ask you to now. Nutley? I what do you think the school is going to be? I think we'll I think we'll most likely stolidly win the game. But I don't think it'll be anything crazy. So I'll probably just sort of say to Michael has a raised eyebrow. Solidly trade not crazy in the game. What do you think the school is going to be a very optimistic free onto the horns, ready and? Then you've those twice in the league in this year. How can you be so optimistic? Oh. The second game terrible decision. We go back in the game say that. Yeah. That's always great. So he'd never night and it's like a home game. Set Wembley, just round the corner. Yeah. That Manzini does have any time taint athletes like. It's like yellow second date here. We'd be not many times. Also, like the fact that not the USA. You know, I think we might win Michael straight out. Yeah. I was going to be three one. Yeah. Hey, listen. Good luck to the both of you nasally, Michael. Thank you so much. Joining us in the studio, Natalie good luck, Michael even better largest, thank you so much CPA fans. My favorite part of the show. We have Dale and Alex back in the studio, boys. You ready for this bring hill and come out? Yes. Okay. Voice. Are you ready? I am ready, Jamie. How are you? Here we go Rachel. I was gonna say I'm also ready had forget me. It's time for the quiz. Yes. It's their head in the game quiz, Alex, Dale, Rachel and Jamie. Are you ready ready as Rennie's yet? Thank you question. Number one, multiple choice. Alex I and the first two FA Cup finals after World War Two two events occurred which had never happened before. Or since the match had to be stopped, the bad weather, the the ball burst. See the referee had to be substituted. You to injury d it was free entry. Or tough. He didn't tell me it's gonna be this tough. I'm going to go full bowl. Burst is correct. Looking forward. Today, which club is held the trophy for the longest period. Hey arsenal. The Portsmouth see Manchester United de Bolton. Wanderers? I want to go see here. Manchester. United Paul Smith. When it was be. But. You are correct. Portsmouth for the last team to win the Cup before World War Two and the competition was postponed for seven years. Well, done Dale, Rachel. I think this is going to be an easy one now which club holds the unique distinction of winning the Cup and being relegated in the same season. I think we know now. Hey, wagon be Sunlen. See middle's de Spurs. Yes. Come home from Wigan, absolute Kimmy. Novenas? Overdraw fellows, okay scandal. Jamie not eating this week. Thank you, which of these football legends. Never played in a Cup final. Hey, Peter Shilton be George Best. See Bobby Charlton de Kevin Keegan. I kept the hardest one. I'm gonna go for D, which is not shelving, Keegan Kevin Keyes Shelton. Kevin Keegan Kevin Keegan is incorrect. It was be George. I was going to go for best. Couldn't be never mind true or false round to Alex. I a a non league team has won the FA Cup trophy offals. Who true? It is true. Any idea who it might be a problem out spur very good tale for day. Oh, sorry. Sorry. I was going to say that those very rude. Memphis, very impressive nine thousand nine hundred one before they were league team with Kevin Keegan. And Peter shelter. Day'll be in the nineteen fifty-six six Cup final. But Trautmann Manchester City's goalkeeper broke his arm but carried on playing truffles. That's false. It wasn't. It was it was neck story who's playing. This is question. We're going to give you that one day said full. Correct to give the unsustainability rudely. It was was your call elaborate. It was his neck. Rachel Wiggin song for the two thousand thirteen. Final featured manager Roberto Martinez playing the Morocco's draw falls. It is false. Although I bet he could de Jamie a non English team has won the FA Cup trophy holes. It's going to be a trick question. True. Damn you. Boys. Cardiff Cardiff City in one thousand nine hundred twenty seven my goodness. It's very very close quickfire round. Hurry up now FA Cup. Final win. Roll loser. Alex Crystal Palace. Come on Wor loser. Correct. Loser. Dale Barnsley winner. Yes. United eleven Rachel Lester winner loser. Four times a record. Jamie naughty him forest loser. Yes. And we all know who remembers that he was wearing Gazza was injured and NAS Spurs in one thousand nine hundred ninety one. Well, I'm gonna tell you, folks. It's extra time because it's a draw between everyone. Yes, he pretended. So FA Cup final referee or screen villain. Alex Sergeyev starred. Referee. Yes. The eighteen seventy eight final Dale Morgan la- Fe. Copy a villain a female villain from doctor strange. Rachel Tom crew. The game is. Wasn't. Okay. Come final referee. Yes. Referendum nineteen thirty five. I'm finally this could be the clincher outfit bond. Jamie of people on was an incredible referee in the nineteen twenty two FA Cup. Final officiated in the nineteen fifty six final which Trump and broke his neck. I'm the winner. Or should I say winners? Alexander airs PM. Reading changing wiz trophy exactly the rest of you leave with nothing. I didn't like teamwork day me. Now, I just don't want our own we still if we're the loss out. Alvin sort of in. So few me goodbye, everyone. So that's about all for this week. Please subscribe for free and give us a review to join us next week when we really start to kick off the summer. It's all about the clay. We will focus on the French Open. Now at the end of the show Rachel I normally sign off together. However because it is the final, and I feel I would like us all to do this together in unison Alex daily ready for this race. Absolutely. Here we go until then keep your head in the game felt good. ESPN head in the game.

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Bob Ley

Sports Media with Richard Deitsch

49:03 min | 1 year ago

Bob Ley

"Everybody this is richard action welcomed the sports media podcast my producers are turns now don't increase plenary one guest this week but it is a guest that those people who are listening to this podcast will be very familiar with it is bob lee and last week bubbly announced he would retire from vsbn at the end of june after forty years but the network he was he espy in the longest serving commentator joining e s p n is eight sportscenter anchor on its third day of operation september ninth nineteen seventy nine he had hosted outside the lines since its inception in may of nineteen ninety he was also a host of the weekly east sixty show on sunday mornings you busy face of any networks world cup coverage in soccer coverage and i'd be here all day if i was going tillis more of his resin may so i will just bringing in now bob lee welcome maybe welcome back to the podcast but it's been awhile rich doing all right well really more importantly how're you doing a show people yeah people will speculate on your reasons for leaving so let's delve into this right away how much of this with your decision yet get off get off the grassy knoll folks get off i i put out a statement it's one hundred percent true please why is no one believed i know you believe how much is one thousand percent my decision i let's just make that point move off because the company was magnificent conversations i had with outer shell jimmy daro they were just they were princes i could have i could've easily remained the end and redefined the role and it was a very difficult decision the most difficult part about it was just not seeing my good friends every day were gonna stay in touch but the people as you well know the people are what make any organization should i mean that's that's why you go to work and so it was a i'm imperfect health stars i know a blessed with good family and friends and it was just a decision after reflection that it was it was just time to make a change in the end it's all all mine in any chinchilla of a suggestion to the contrary is not only illinformed but malicious libel about how did you as best you wanna describe it how did you come to this decision and who were among the people you discussed said decision when it involves a lot of personal factors that you know i you know don't really wanna get into a professionally i spoke with friends of mine who and this goes back over year i'd been mulling a change break a sabbatical leave i spoke of some friends would retire try to get their mindset on you know adjustment and friends in this field in other fields and i spoke to the people who are important in my life and a friends family and some in the business many out of the business and it helps they have that out of i think we get so caught up in what we do and what we do is important porton but it's you know were not splitting adam and were not staffing and they are and what i teachers and you know those early horton's jobs in society and just reporting on sports and it's it's great but i it's it's necessary and important to get a view outside side of of you're world and you're so busy and so on deadline in and so caught up in it's easy i think they have myopia about that so i i fellows important step back and look at the thirty thousand foot view an it's something that's on your mind every day since you since i began they believe back in in in october of last year of eighteen and you know whether it's an hour whether it's two hours of whether it's fifty minutes you spend time on it every day so so when we finally got to the station you know this this is the best for us it's despite the fact that had been in office had met on that hadn't been working it just feels right and you know it's been eight humbling experience in the last four five days the reaction friends and from people all never meet or people i met and and just chance encounters and it's just astonishing and is much is that all means to me and let me tell you if you're one of those reached out it means a great great deal to buy family may 'em it also reaffirms it you know what could weaken punctuated and feel good we we did some good we think as and was so you know that's the backstop version but what did you do during those a daring that sabbatical radical did you did you did you go into the woods somewhere in contemplate life what were you doing out all the lint out of my naval and it's it's god it'd be a surprise that much lately 'em you know you'd be surprised how how quickly a couple of errands and a couple of the try and get some things done for other people and sleeping the normal hours and exercising spending time on yourself and you know properly eating a good breakfast which rather than eating a bagel as you're driving the work 'cause you gotta seven am meeting you'd be surprised how much time when you downshift you're life you suddenly have yourself but you know we spent some time we have a getaway place a warmer climate we spent some time there spent some time around my alma mater she's all 'em we welcome the new granddaughter to are family in that of course is joyous and you know joyously took up a fair amount of time involved in that and breathing for pleasure green books for pleasure i mean i you know you you know what it's like those last time you sat down with a good hardcover and not and not even something on your kindle and just like used a bookmark and say i want to spend ninety minutes with this book things like that and trying not to feel guilty about about it too because you know there there is when you're plugged in when you're going in a hundred miles an hour and you have to be plugged in it just says every all the great people who work on outside the lines who have spent so much time with you know you look at these time stamp on the emails and come in with ideas and reflections and suggestions and breaking news and it's it's all consumptive an you know there's no halfway because there's only one way to do the very best show at are standards and it's it's falls out flat it all chips on the table but that takes that takes up about it after a while it does you you need to assess is that where i wanna still be but what is your interest level and appearing on e s p n as a one off let's say massive newsbreaks or something of great interest to you would you consider a shuttling to bristol and popping honors hopping on from wherever you happen to be living that that's a hypothetical it i could easily hide behind deal i never ask dr pathetically listen it's it's gonna be a long time if ever been before a change the pronouns we us hours 'em i know people their family to me and i spent forty professional years there so certainly you know i'm not gonna say anything and they've been great to me i think it's been a square deal and specifically the question i don't know but i'm open to anything as you understand it 'em what is the future of outside the lines and management support for it i think it is solid for square it is in the hands of of anti tennessee executive producer norby williamson connors shell my understanding is there is an absolute commitment that's been express express dummy even before i reached by decision did not return we were having some discussions back and forth and just staying in touch and it's been made clear to me that there's a great belief in the show and you know any suggestions and it's gonna be any different because i'm not there in the process and you've got people the caliber of andy tenants who has stewarded the east sixty two i lose track of the amount of awards east sixty in these people want in a jeremy shat ryan smith robyn done principal producer of the show she why dear dear friend of mine dave's hiroshi these beings are quality people great journalists and it's gonna continue and it's gonna change because it has to change while i was away they have better ideas you know if you don't involve you become stale and that's the one thing in our culture there i go agriculture it is in that is always sustain us he goes again a we adapt we adapt we change and you have to be mildly have you constantly have to challenge and they will build it they will do that so it's there they've got that studio which is gorgeous 'em and the i'll be not every day not everyday live but it'll be on the dvr one of the things i am quite impressive these guys i'm gonna i'm gonna drop a curse here but i think it's the right word one of the things that always impressed me about your career was you did not have a major fucked up in forty years as far as i can see on terms of just getting in you you were under two so that's the tombstone i did it isn't only about thirty eight isn't that a major bleep up at forty two very good to like that's a good team so for anybody m s but how do i mean how so how did that happen i mean you're you're certainly not without logan you you speak your mind but you you were able to navigate what other a on air people there sometimes tom has been difficult terrain navigate a as that's like asking a guy you know a diffuser bombs reliving how come you know you're hearing that splattered against the wall i mean i i don't know you know there's some outtakes tonight i call myself dan patrick down there and you know there's a couple of other trust me there's there's there's a gag reel full of of stuff the ban takes this that i you know i talked about we got a story wrong at eighty five at the final four i didn't know about whether a lou dulcimer succeeding jovi hall on air with a dick by talent h develops sources and contractors right in front of lewd well you know what the pen didn't go to the paper you gotta follow at home that was a triple bought home run as far as you know the facts half across the plate with the facts odds but see i i get the sense of what you're saying i don't know i i just there's just a filter i think remind you you ever responsibility that to the show the people people you work for the people at home the dough all of those things are bigger than what your thoughts are and you know it's good to have fun it's but you know i have i dropped a couple of a f bombs in the studio but all ferry al having it's a bad habits have matt cook and bite you i'm lucky i didn't get called on some of those but a i think you need to have a sense at all times at the were doing what you're doing it it's a great responsibility and treated as such problem one of the things that a when you work at a place for as long as you worked at four as you see a lot of people come and go you see a layoff you see a culture an operation sometimes change so let me ask you a couple of specifics here saturday especially over the last let's say five to seven years how did those rounds of layoffs those rounds of some of those people leaving impacted you because that that really changed a sort of the composition at least on air of vsbn in offaire well so i'm gonna answer in two parts all into the second part first 'cause you might wanna follow up 'cause i'm gonna tell you who's great impact but it at the end of the day it didn't really put a thumb on skill for my decision now having said that i'll circle back and give me they answer which was i was asking gutted i wasn't tiers on some days of saying goodbye some friends and just thinking about some of those conversations now i get emotional a you know we said goodbye for whatever reasons to a decades of institutional memory loss in aggregate you know centuries of friendships in the workplace place i understand intellectually all the reasons that were stated why this had happened you can take issue with some of it or not but you know what it ain't my company it's well above my pay grade they get to make those changes 'em and it is true that he sbn was so well marriage at such a phenomenal success in the marketplace that we for years had escaped that part of the industrial shakedown that so much of the rest of society heavy economy had experienced i mean look around i mean as i said on era when i would the sick it arrived at how many rounds were there bob separate them in your mind but i think the second round the cutbacks but my very good friend david ross stay very close touch with lead going into the tribute to him and i part of the process that was that a you know you don't need me at home neither harris whining because you know you all had things like this in your life the lie to people close to you we all know people who have put in twenty five years and accompanying than their ears you're exit package and there's the box clean you'd ask our making some changes 'em so it was it was very very difficult and i stay in touch with a number of people as best i can it did change the place a you know i'm sure there are metrics that will show you know they will say well it was able to do x y and z in this and i get it you can't fight city hall and we had the change there is some brutal truth here but if it it was very very impactful and 'em you know i i had some you know john skipper came down in my office you knock him down ear office not month talked me about this is i mean you know i we lost a lost a lot of people it's it's visually stunning to come to work after all this stuff went down in see office after office with their name play god around the new show on the perimeter of the newsroom and you know i knew that guy thirty years and i know take that guy dave miller who's now working invested in boston i told the final fours and he and i did buy tells spent years together bomber rauscher david brosky steve vecchione who is a with me for thirty five years the last seven seven or eight of which on outside the lines all of these guys and it's tough but 'em at so if i i'm gonna say when when the saying this is gonna sound cavalier they say gee bob you didn't get laid off and they paid you really well but life goes on it does an and i you know but it's it was tough bob or any of those any during those tough moments 'em did you ever consider leaving a just because see the place with a little bit different then what you thought it was following these kind of laugh no i i don't i don't think any of that 'em drove me to the point of say a screw it i'm out of here if anything they i think it illustrated tomato need to suppress the buckle down and do we have to do a show that whatever the changes were were gonna still be the shape of you 'em you moderated may proudly multiple but i at least know one of the shore town hall on sports in race a you did you did many shows at a on outside the lines on the nexus of sports and politics of the nexus of sports and race andy you are very well aware of this 'em and cultural battle i would say it's been going on where he spf has been a part of that a present united states comes out mentioned vsbn a mentioned tsp sp and commentators you know that's where things get a real and i just want to ask you a sort of an open ended question with some of dsp ends you know strongest voices on this gone 'em how do you view the thee responsibility vsbn when it comes to covering these stories and maybe more than that 'em can you do what jimmy tomorrow's trying to do and an end sort of covered this stuff but at the same time not once your front facing people to be so politically oriented on twitter instagram at cetera yeah well i it's a devil asli sensitive end complicated issue i think 'em i had long conversations on several occasions with with john skipper about this are former presidents in fact a the very morning president trump and were sitting in are morning getting about seven twenty i you know refreshing his twitter account is september of seventeen as early as the whole djamil thing was percolating and that was the morning heat heat not not his press secretary took off after are network by name well that's about seven twenty five and i know that at eight o'clock after pre existing appointing they go upstairs and talk the johnson more about this whole politically biased alleged bias issue and how we deal with it so i i you know i cut and pasted that tweet in mailed it to john as probably the first of all about five thousand people do it thirty five minutes later he and i are looking at each other across his desk saying you know he's saying well you gotta help me figure out what were gonna say the white house and i said well i'll gladly help you john i said but i you know i'm who's a friday i wanted him on the friday friday for it you know he wants to do it but i think that reflects she decided not to go that just shows you the real world timing of all this you know they do in retrospect the number of observations survey shins 'em i'm not sure all of my colleagues at every step of the way understood that be a platform they had publicly not just any sbn but then they vocal world of twitter was a function of their prominence on the network it was a megaphone but they didn't quite fully own a no that's one to 'em being a middle aged white guy my radar is tuned very differently then being an african american in this country in having visited her and everything and they optics around charlottesville and everything the president has said and everything else that goes off about race in society in this country and so i recognize is that my i come to this from a point on the cup is very different from some of my colleagues many of whom i considered good friends one of the neatest things and i by the way if you work with me i'm trying again bacteria it's been humbling if you if you reached out twitter it's it's near impossible in the bottom of the money jones said something very nice and and he says you know my view of the world is very different than bob's but you know he appreciated the fact that we always talk and i would often have among the show 'em i'd like to think we we provided a window of civility in in all of this that if you asked around the balance of you're cable dial you didn't always find a was there illiberal is what was there i pronounce liberal bent to a lot of these things associated with e s p n did on are platforms for reflecting back on twitter is dancers indisputable yes i'd say john and i talked about this skippered i in front of a large meaning if people april of twenty seventeen and it's a function of of who the people are company where we work were in the northeast one blue estates and i you know it's it's not a ball you know if you're a republican interviewer right of center if you felt that their views on the network didn't reflect your is i'd let me just assure you there's no star chamber secret society of masonic lodge meeting trying to say oh what am i gonna do now to push be agenda now it's just a function of just be atmospherics any air supply having said that whenever we worked at least in are little corner of the universe being outside the lines i tried to make spirited are staffing they were great about it okay fine we have this issue here the bathroom bill you need we find somebody who will defend it ever gonna put this opponent of it and i'll tell you sometimes it's tough to find a spokesman on some of these issues but i think everybody was great and putting aside their personal beliefs i'll tell tell you quite frankly sit around are on outside the lines and these people i all considered friends and i hope they feel the same way and i might have been the only guy voting one particular way on some issues but we all could discuss an end enrich and respect each other an and more importantly producers showed it was fair about the whole thing and you know and i turned on other examples of media now an i i look at things and they're labeled new show and i say shit you're already put the ready switzer explicit f bomb before so i'll just double down and say shit that's not a new show and i network show going named but call it commentary but you know the thing that gets the impact man this monitoring a little bit here's that the people that are now wanna do this for a living an an and looking at journalism in in in in interest in the public square thinking that's fully acceptable and i'm sorry i mean old school capital low capital less play it down the middle of his commentary labeling commentary but this cross pollination of the two is i find disturbing so in puts the emphasis on the consumer it'd be really educated about what you're consuming from home and why i first of all i i appreciate that answer it's really interesting 'em i don't agree with i know you and i've talked about this i remember one time and you're classroom funding university and the topic was a private conversation but i'll take it public down tree what might about the relative merits of individuals in the media putting their personal political views out there and i think you and i write differently that's great that's great weaken lincoln m n and so everybody's educated about individual eight feels this way individual be i don't know but you know there's nothing has worked indicate otherwise that i listen we we do disagree on that but that's where you know i have great respect you think we could have a conversation do you think and this is listen i'm certainly not naive to this but 'em is the wisest decision a for a company like e s p n at a certain point to just do it blanket as part of like working here you signed some documents to not put any kind of a politics on your individual media freeze whether that is legal or not i don't know but i i'm i'm just wondering i don't i guess i would say i don't know how you could ultimately control it as a company outside of i guess the hammer of you'll lose your employment if you do this well i that's one way to look at it but i i you know i'm sure the lawyers have conceded that it's legal the current 'em media policy i do believe was drafted by kevin maratha who was twenty plus years the washington post gentleman i worked with him and listening but we all each other at dinner we gotta do that guy have ultimate respect for a an i think share some of my views about the separation of of news reporting in commentary so i i think i look you come into a company a you know you you you gain a lot they're giving you health insurance they're giving you life insurance they're giving you know if you look at insurance you wanna buy that and by the way you should 'em you know but at the end and you're gaining the mantle of being able to you know business cards and that's working her yes but there's it's a two way street they ask you to do certain things now for example they're one of the things i did during my by sabbatical i become a a a bit of a community organizer my little town on the connecticut shoreline not quite like mr obama in his formative years but like well walk working on some public safety issues but i never would never even trade the fact that i you know i have a national profile in the in the sports media i'm just a guy that lives on you know that street over there and we wanna meet with the police commission and talk about speed limits my point is you're you're you're national national profile doesn't have to extend it every aspect of your life and if reckoning is as good to to make some of those differentiations i think you have to give a consideration in indifference i that is a reasonable statement and i appreciate that 'em all right i want to ask you bob in terms of 'em in terms of your work at outside the lines what was it like for you internally to navigate let's say reporting on the nfl fell with nfl clearly not liking that reporting what was that dance like for you over the course of weeks years months excetera 'em you know all right let's let's get the elephant in the room out of the way frontline twenty thirteen that decision not not the best decision ever offered by her company but i i think that's an absolute outlier a having said that we had nothing much support at every level when we reported 'em on issues involving rightsholders an end it if you do it correctly a which is you know facts right you reach out for comment man you knock on the front door of the party of reporting on ensued you have a comment would you like to have a guest and internally everybody is alerted especially if it's a larger project you know you tell your bosses and they let the pro written in the proper people most show that side knows politically no another side of the church state division hey were doing this just so you know it's gonna happen a you know there were something set on a podcast by john around and i got a circle back with john 'cause i don't know what his sourcing was and i i just the one thing that kind of bothered me about all things were said last week i never took the light many of the bathroom whatever action reaction we we 'em elicited we were there to do the story and i had you know sit down with a major figure in the league at one point it was it was polite and it was professional but you know the points were made clear about are reporting demand weavers respectfully agree disagree i don't think we'd ever convince each other of but that open the line of communication to the point where going forward i could always count on text being able to reach you know this individual by taxed and say you know this what were doing it and he he would offer well look at this look at that as far as deferring scientific reports if it's concussions tensions 'em and i i just think i think that league in particular national football league suffered by from some a less than optimum media relations for a number of years and i they've got i think that some proof and but but it's true with every rights holder whether you're talking about the national hockey league head trauma or if you're talking about major league baseball or or dmv tim donaghy thinking i was not involved in that if if there is on happiness a it shielded from us you know were there the do the job and a week and i say i mean those who think the stranger pulled and stories you're killed are are speaking out about the facts you you are anybody who knows you knows a jury massive a soccer fan football fan global football fan an you fronted many vsbn biggest global soccer tournaments from world cups a euro championships it always i have no idea so i'm curious actually answered this question but it really struck me that your favorite assignment or most memorable and maybe life changing assignment was the south african world cup 'em am i right about that and if not what would be the the the soccer tournament or a soccer assignment that you always stays with you up above all the rest well there's not like doing a world cup because does you know you're you're life do it right the run a reporting trip the research the qualifiers and then the cup itself and a you know regional championships gold cup or or or or a european european championships and just as good but now you read be right i just this morning at a very gracious handwritten note from my old colleague jet drake who is the executive producer of several of those world cups any promised all of us before twenty ten this this this experience will change their life and love you and jed you know to save himself i don't know soccer but i know big and he was giving the grandiose statements and thing was he always flipping delivered on it on air that's that's why he was in charge but he was right end a we did that turn out who's just twenty years after nelson mandela was released from prison in twenty years after the end in sixteen years after majority rule took over in south africa the nation that been seventeen years proud of the tournament nearly dissolved in the civil war people forget the violence on i made three trips without the south africa in connection with that world cup to simply for reporting and a in the middle of the twenty ten tournament and i've told us that i could tell other evening when i was inducted into they national sports radio hall of fame in the middle of the twenty ten world cup i flew down the cape town the conduct and energy where they nobel peace prize winner and before we started he said would you mind if i just simply offered miss a tiny cluttered officer ten of us powered in there he says do you mind if i simply offered a brief nondenominational prayer as i said in my heart who is i just say no to archbishop desmond tutu a you know that when you are lead in private prayer by arch there's archbishop desmond tutu you this is more of a soccer tournament you know you talk to people who observed any of heartache police massacres in the seventies and slidell 'em when you're security and we travel at security everywhere in south africa when you go to some neighborhoods looking for some stories and even hard bitten security security guys who have seen it all and done at all whisper near we gotta get out of here and now it's getting dicey it's like okay we were were pushing the envelope here and then there was the football which was you know spanish arguably the greatest team ever a haven't seen one since then compare with a yeah it was fun it was it was joyous and you know and included a great usa belgium match so you know the only thing i wish we could have been was back in the states a little bit to they have somebody excitement but you know that came through to us you know eight or nine thousand miles away what it was like back here but that was fun and then i still still have friends down there a water to check in recently and a single bags tours i bet and actually you know from your from your fans world cup coverage a in this is no necessarily disrespected fox but nobody's still in the in domestically nobody in the states is still has been able to match your post match hang out conversations that you guys had over multiple woke up tonight i think he called it over world cups that that will say a for whatever reason whether it was chemistry whether it was just the relaxation of the people on set a that was is good at soccer talk is we've ever seen after matches well thank you i mean look everyone's doing you know i think fox is got a very good products and many of those guys you're good friends of mine but what it was was a conversation and among people that's be the same conversation we'd have in the green room where the hotel bar or at a dinner and then i saw it and i remember working with a lot of people for whom english as a second language and i respect for that is is through the roof i mean i one time tried to do i know a little soccer span english and i was in honduras that tried to enter spanish i said busted guys i'm sabri i do this and english by respected that is just over the top but to these people we would all hang out and you know to say that you know you can exchange a you know emails years afterwards and you know with roberto martinez and you're buddy and you know i remember i remember in south africa we all tried workout isn't it isn't parrot iv imperative to be in shape physically because of the grind the days so i tried to three four miles just walking up on a slight incline on the treadmill and so european players who is working whether it's in those days prior to a number of years parties being a national team badger and there i am huffing and puffing at five thousand feet altitude and joe berg on this show on his sliding quite a few degrees you know doing my thirty forty minutes cubs any dodge gets on the treadmill next to me and if you ever wanna feel inadequate as an organism you know he's he's just he's got this thing cranked up to subs supersonic speed these right you're not even it's not even sweating wedding you know and it's just like you realize what insane only well trained and yes gifted well trained in focused athletes these men and women were who worked with a swing at their prime an end just good company to be around southeast alary who is working with this the last several cups coaching rail madrid this year you know and be able to you know if you're able the trade emails with the with the manager of rail madrid who by the way played college soccer in new jersey at stockton state join that one from a non yeah i know that sounds great experience it by the way you're probably they only got play soccer a college soccer in new jersey and play for san lorenzo the pope's team without if i have a scene san lorenzo play live and a it was they just they fascinating experience and a and a little bit frightening 'cause when you know when a team scores and the fan sort of rush defense it's it's argentinian soccer is very different than mls all yet any south of the rio grande brings a passion that i i'm so glad you know there's a written remember several times in honduras and honduras would score and the qualifier and the sound was so loud happy palpable physical quality is amazing yeah i agree are in a couple more here it strikes me that teaching at seton hall would be such a great fit for you would be filling in terms of intellectually stimulating to be around young people obviously young people seton hall will get something great out of it have you pursue that at all is that a possibility i i've done i've done some some classes down there i'm sure i'll be doing some more a one of your former colleagues bj shepherd who worked at sports illustrated and runs baseball america is the profession residents there so yeah we've got new president coming in doctor joseph neier i had a conversation with them so i i wanna be doing some things there is much bringing some of the folks at i have relationships with into to work with and i am one of the great boone's of the last week i been approached by a number of schools who invited me to do similar things were just speaking so i wanna put a calendar together and do some things i i'd be only thinking about my work at seton hall is at the traffic on i originally i know you're in another country but the i don't know what it's like on your canadian expressed said the traffic on i ninety five in connecticut is is is other worldly and will soon be i think be paying tolls for the privilege of sitting at a dead stop toronto is it's not the traffic torontonians will tell you that the traffic is rough but it's it it pales to the states in my in my humble opinion at least between a connecticut in a in new york have you have you thought about i they're doing any podcast 'em hey book or anything sort of under those lines i've got some thoughts i don't wanna get too specific but i you know there there's some ideas percolating in a in a will see but as i said yeah you'd be surprised how quickly you're calendar it could fill up i mean i got i got very jokes this coming weekend guts that's a little stephen in the disciples of soul the week after a we've got sean cold and coming up we've got the stones and in august so you know the concert calendars filling up it's summertime who knew who knew that you'd be you're you're trout you're traveling basically a so almost almost basically exactly how am i going to be the backup rhody for the jokes i think that'd be the guy that called a all right so here's here's where 'em will sort of the end up on m i realize this is such a hard thing to do given all the different stories that you have worked on but 'em is there a particular story that as you sit back back that you would sort of consider the most challenging a the most satisfying i i'd be curious if there's i above all the different pieces that you worked on if there were some if there are a couple of pieces were couple of subject standout while 'em you gotta be flipping through the pages of my digital memory i i gotta tell you i we we touched on it before we were reporting on brain trauma a contact sports specifically football in in the year two thousand i mean troy aikman was still in the league i remember what spurred that that a particular sunday show is the first year of outside the lines is a weekly segment i think i believe he he wasn't even sure had suffered his eighth concussion and i know that we've done so much that through the years with my colleagues peter keating tj quinn a finger brothers a certain naming names i'm gonna miss the great reporters who have added to just are are are style of these and you know we try to be a sterile is fair and learning you know the principal we we don't no we don't know about this and end so about i think it was mother's day two years ago we were walking out of a restaurant in upstate new york revisiting my daughter and her husband at time are grand daughter were walking at his but since you're seven of us and after a while in the public eye develop that radar when you have a corner guy you know someone's wants to approach and say something and then he that was the case and that's fine so highest compliment but this gentleman walked over introduced himself and said he was a neurosurgeon surgeon local medical center in in albany and he just wanted to thank us for our work in the field and how much it meant a helping to educate the people that he people are coming into him already educated because of work we had done and i've gotten some similar correspondence over the years and when you get something such is that a you realize that it did you lose it yes you knew at the time it wasn't important story but you realize it ripple and it has a life as a reason and that that's pretty neat left me bob m university expression about sort of being a visitor you're own funeral a all yeah all these notes in all these a tweet in all the text that you've got and 'em congratulate you on a great run in and being thankful fear friendship and you're work i have no doubt it's obvious that that is flattering and and and you liked it but and this is what i wanna ask you 'cause there's a congress to it is it's surreal to to get these messages in the sense that like well you know you're not dead you want another chapter intellectually professionally yet the public sort of thinks this is the last step for you do you know what i mean it's it's interesting to me that like you were you were trending on twitter 'em which again you know certainly notable in great but people right well they're gonna say half the people who turned on twitter have done so because they've passed away so i'm happy that that that's not the case for you but i just wonder was it was it all of those things wasn't flattering was a surreal was it what do i do next just i wonder what that all the messages and the flood of wellwishers what's that been like 'cause most of us will be in that position i i tell you i as i feel like huck finn you know a out of twain in the church balcony watching it it's been i it professionally there's there's never been there could never be anything to to match this 'em i'll i'll start crying if i tell you some of these conversations and i wanna break some confidence but the things people upset personally in in in in print and then tax and again it's if you've reached out please know my family and i deeply appreciate it i'm working on chipping away at the pie i want everybody who reached out and try to respond and the things that have been set up in just a people are recounting jimmy conversations from decades ago and i take them at their word i am just lead my parents raised me right apparently i you know treats them okay that's that's nice job but all of this has for me affirmed that it's the right decision that i think the most of the people the grant the vast majority of those reaching out especially those who know me personally realize that it's you know it's side they were gonna flip it over and see what on on on on the flip side on side be and i've tweeted a list of great bees size my buddy bruce springsteen sent me this lang some great besides out there by the way kids that's when we used the play vinyl and there were singled out with a hole in the middle 'em or the b side the side to album so i'm not worried the people think you know i i in joking fashioned alltel hey guys i'm not dying you know be be in touch but a i can't tell you what that has meant in in recent days m a n to get into the details would sound self aggrandizing and i don't wanna do that but it's just it's things have been said to me that i just i'm blown away is one email came in undermined by wasn't cheers i showed it to my wife was sitting next to me and felt the same way i can't even describe things have said so thank you if you've reached out even we just had a good thought had no it's much appreciated end you know i'm gonna be doing some things a hopefully that'll have some good attached to them i'm gonna but i had an algae i make is as a guy at nineteen hours a slight lessons before his vertical that the federal money couldn't get his license but i was in the left hand seat i'm powering back here from mach three subsonic a just a slow down just a bit and you know i i i've had a lot of people in my circle of perf personally in are family circle in the last year and a half that have had some challenges and in in moments edit just focuses you on the necessity of realizing there no guarantees year and a half to those who say how could you leave i respond half jokingly did you want me to just you know beto tagged in studio seeing carried out so relieving at the right time i know i leave behind find the best people i could hope for the continue with the show and with the mission an end that extends from studio z up to the very top of the company there is a commitment and it's real and the if nothing outstanding all be watching but i will be watching with confidence at appreciation and jimmy's a very tight state last wednesday set at all i mean the best way they say thank you said this to continue and i believe that and i i'm gonna be watching and believing it's gonna true claimed a sports journalism professor a sandy passed away who worked at columbia university also worked as they sports editor of the new york times as well as editor at a sports illustrated and where they consulting with bob lady sbn famously called him be conscience vsbn and that has been a it's been said by many over the last couple of weeks of bob lee announces he will retire so i guess in this case he has retired army sbn 'em after forty years with the network he a m leaves a great legacy when it comes out sidelines sports center east sixty and all the work he did obviously is a front facing person on their breaking news bob listen man i know a new i know you got a lot of requests and you got a lot of things going on so i really appreciate you giving me some time today i wish you nothing but the best heading forward and a and i'm sure we will stay in touch and are path will cry as early as they hope so because i mean i you know folks listening should know that i annually which you mentioned sandy you picked up the mantle from him and teaching a sports journalism class in columbia university's graduate school of journalism when the highlights of every year when you're invitation now i would gladly come down and speak they're having lunch what standing next month looking forward to that yeah it said i've always rich even when we saw things differently always enjoyed are conversations and we have many more and i appreciated jane mcmanus suco taught that class of me is one of our highlights of year for the students always bring you down bob but thank you so much and a and i'll be in touch happy a happy concert going yeah yeah i know down in the picketing sweaty take care back in the studio my facts about a who really was incredibly generous with his time he's got a lot of question obviously there's a lot going on in terms of getting back people and planning a the course of his summer so a that was appreciate it any somebody i've been want it to get on obviously simply announcement and so that was really really cool and you know gives you gives you a real sense of why bob lee was a successful 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Men in Blazers 10/31/18

Men In Blazers

57:18 min | 1 year ago

Men in Blazers 10/31/18

"This is Rebecca Lowe will Rebecca if you listen to sub optimal radio, and you on this thing to men in blazers on the NBC sports network. From the embassy row studios in the crap. Also, a back McCain counter in the crap out of West Hollywood Roach. As though there is what many places? Plus Dave telling we should acknowledge of. Total darkness for the Tel is near total darkness. We've ever David. I will say the top to rely on football as a refuge almost as in the skate from the real world. I think you've noticed right? David. It's like a dungeon and dragons kind of will populated by giants like PT kraut Kevin Nolan, but what she Liverpool Cardiff for the weekend. When news broke out about the shooting in the synagogue in squirrel hill. And then later that day, we're all still reeling the helicopter carrying the less though and four others crashed just outside of the ground. The world the world outside of football became impossible, even for me to ignore. And we found it really hard this Monday to do to do our television show day, right? We're such heavy hearts. It wasn't also the disaster in Indonesia as well. I mean, just a terrible weekend. I mean, the terrible things happen all over the world every weekend this weekend. Football hit the Jewish community in Pittsburgh and the Jewish community across America, which I know hit you and your family, particularly hall, Raj and all Americans, everybody loves football. And it just felt like total total darkness everywhere. We will talk about Lester later in this podcast. And I will say I love Pittsburgh. It's a city have had some of the best night's more life in a love the passion. A love the spirit. I admire the industrial history of the place. I just I just door injures American Scousers. Yen's is I've got a law friends. I got him squirrel hill. And I want to raise a glass to them in their weeks of mourning and healing and pray at the top of this podcast for hope not fair for love, not anger. Let's look for joy in life, not fear mongering and the synagogue where the attack where the savagery where the slaughter went down. Cooled the tree of life in Hebrew. That's at Siam from the biblical reference. It's a tree of life for those who gross spent a you jewel near a fortunate so apart in that spirit. Dave, I will say I've been reading a law in sponsored everything that's happened in our country are premature Levy which won't surprise regular listeners, the Italian writer whose work I often turn t when things feel dark, and he said the following monsters exist, but that too few in them to be truly dangerous more dangerous of the common men. The functionaries ready to believe and to act without asking questions so say, Jeff O P's ask questions daily listeners. Ask questions the hardest. Most honest, you can and then act on those answers Chimi up. David was only you can I just want to say just about in this. I I cannot stand. The would hate I try to prevent my children. And people I know always to choose other words, other than hate it's really difficult not to be filled with that today that we realized that is the cause of everything bad that happens in the World Drive it out wherever it's found and never be silent about it anyway Roach. Okay. I got on a plane to LA yesterday had sauce and friends went out Riddick din. New project, I'm working on then with my head of digital. When over with Sanni went over to meet her boyfriend, the great hat maker, Nick K who was having dinner at Craig's this great sort of institution. West Hollywood restaurant. I walk in Nick, Kate. The hat maker is other table. You would love his hats. He's at the table full of other people were Fouquet hats and getting introduced to the people around the table introduced to this guy. And he looks at me, and he goes, oh my God. You'll Michael Davies he goes many blazes. I wrote your crap theme. Tune. And it's the guy. Wrote out crap shoot who I've never met communicated with them over Email had phone calls for the never met him. And he honestly was just like lychee started singing the crap themes talking to me about how he came up with it. And how he made it because remember the note we gave him when we got it is needs to be a little more crap. And then on the second revision just a bit more crap. And he talks about how he made it more and more and more crap. He's a brilliant guy owns a company jingle pants incredible work way better than that crap themes you, but you bearing the lead because Nick, what's his name is not just maker Fouquet is the celebrity maker, right? Yeah. He is the hat maker to the stars. He controls the airspace around forever. Head Roach may some imagining this is not just a normal dinner. This is with me to the stars. You're sitting down with wearing stars. So merging I'm projecting too much. The the person who our jingle the Reggie. Having dinner with Elton John is that what you're saying? No, he was he might have been in the restaurant. There are lots of stars in the restaurant everywhere you, but it was a it was a such a great thing that he started singing. He was interesting on that table. He also wrote the theme to so a few other shows did and he started seeing those Jesus it was just great to me him and to be reminded Bono. Shagay knows shaggy so relieved it wasn't that really would have that would have just plunged me over the edge into tool dog nece. I'll take it. Thank you, whoever you are unknown jingle writer, and friend to make it to the stars. Nick. Absolutely. I was in England. I've been traveling a lot. I was in England ten days with the NFL football's really happening. You played very well. You played very well. I was I Roach. But that that was not actually made playing the eagles. But apple Riddick taking off took good morning football over that did really well Michael Davis back into the pocket. Quarterback style and over there. And then my kids came and join me on a hat like at an amazing, primarily experience with my son. George took him to his first ever Premier League games. Win full of bull move on Saturday. It was so cold the football was so bad. But he's still loved every second of it. But the next day on Sunday. We went to Crystal Palace road. We saw that incredible palace. Awesome janey atmosphere. Selma's park was unbelievable. And after the game Georgia taken down met the players met war wrought met. Whoa. Khotso met Ray Lewington. He got to play football on the pitch with pallets legend, Mark Bright. And then he ended up with a Wilfred saw signed shirt. It was just the greatest he described it as the most best day of his life. I was reminded a heavy Roy Hodgson to make sure that he was still alive. Didn't ROY was. So sweet actually ROY was so nice right after the game talking to what an amazing day palace. A lot of that club, just grows and grows and grows. And you're gonna take me you gearing my on the day. Yeah. The same treatment from you're going to take down. You're gonna put me on. Have you been not on? Nice little boy, I'm expecting the same you, and I going over for visual Brin, we're going to be going over to watch the game really looking forward to the Spurs. Crystal Palace game is really the best game of the two. We're going to see and the other one's Chelsea Everton. Would you won't talk about Burr? Comb. Wait, David for you to put me on coal ROY unique. And for him to ask me if I've been not on ice he'll be like Christmas. Okay. We got a pack show rose, we're gonna break them cities defeat of Tottenham Hotspur on the hallowed Wimbley to it was quarterback style. We mow Sala getting his group back a wonder if it was a really lost. And we applaud a United victory complete with composure clinic -ality and the most hilariously needless. Chris Mullin tackle of all time. Let's go to the football of toast. Dave, I wanna miss bird and toast life. I want dedicate this podcast to all Pittsburghers made the memory of those you've lost be a blessing. We send you love. We send finest all of you at the fantastic football club the river hounds, I'm blown away. I will say I'm blown away by what the Steelers and the penguins of done to support the memory of those who pass, and I say that I realized why I'm blown away as Jewish Blake from generations of choose who've been killed when no one really cares. Really for thousands of years. It blew me away to watch the community in Pittsburgh strengthened in tragedy as ever in these times, we turn to Philip Larkin and his poetic, reminder, we should be careful of each other. We should be kind while there is still time to life Dave to love to making. Meaning let's do it Tottenham nil. Manchester City one one day after the eagles and the Jags turn Wembley from classier BNB into a sketchy Craigslist rental by literally destroying the city Spurs. Thanks to a six minute goal. From Mars something home, a rasp pullback city. Stay unbeaten and top of the table on goal difference. Spurs remain fit, but a point behind fourth place arsenal. All of the talk of this one was about Spurs temporary and quite literal cabbage patch that game took place twenty six hours after the NFL matchup between your Jacksonville Jaguars. And the Philadelphia Eagles night churned up the fail. Wembley, or the boy as you called on the television. The. Looking like an EMMY last failed circa ninety nine thousand nine a pitch. They can only be described as Spurs a, Hugh if you didn't have a huge NFL shield on the center, circle and hash marks and the word London screaming down both sidelines. Jeffrey, John Cook tweet us to say Spurs amend city abo- flirting however high school team in America fails weekend, we have you ever seen a primarily game played under such conditions. David. Well, let's just cost mind back to the beginnings of the Premier League and the prehistory criminally in the old division one. In fact, I dedicate whole entry in our book to mud Roach. Because we used to watch football play literally mother there wasn't anything green out that it was no turf. And this was for me an improvement on watching football played on mud. There was actually. Grassed at the grass was a little patchy the grass was uneven in spots. The bounces went very very good. But I just felt that everybody should have adapted. I felt the uniform should have changed. I felt that the commentators should come these things like Delhi picks up on the forty. He makes it to the thirties. Throws a lateral out to the side. Sean fifteen pushback seventeen I should have been a lot of that Roger would have been. So if you're a full in the game along on Twitter, there was like every single NFL pun was unleashed as it should have been for ninety minutes. I think my favorite was the one that you compared the Manchester City outfit to those of the Clemson Tigers. But we'll say after Wimbley failed might just be this may, but it might just be America's greatest contribution to Premier League culture since that crown prince have Attleboro mass, Mr. Geoff Cameron, and I will say this mean the pitch may be took some of the creativity of the game. But despite it city, devastating. From the off they swarm forward with. No mercy. When that whistle AM to me the way they played. It was watching might tell you swagger out of the Korda for the first round they prime Inish prime when he was just hell bent on knocking his opponent out of his first punch who is quickly as he could cause my God, they got down to business. Quickly roach. Very very simple, Edison. Punted the ball long. Kirin trippy misjudge was he was like a punt returner moving affair catch. Let scampering rows aid like an English tyreek hill, I being harsh. And I was on the show. I said I didn't know if it was a passer short by razz, which is cool because what he did. He executed that signet Jim Manchester City deep pullback foul Riyadh Moras who finished clinically pointed. Skywards? It was fitting that he was the goal score on a weekend of search tragedy. Falesa city that the former less the city star was. Able to point to the heavens for his former aide who he'd later said was like a father to him Falange spells that first half, though, I did marvel at Manchester City until we can assure their game down. They just Spurs her. Good team. Spurs are good team. But Manchester City they just compute so much faster than their opponents. So they using five G while everyone else is making with a two hundred kilobits per second. That Fuji offers. I mean, there is so much I Meyer about Spurs, but they just couldn't compete with the speed of floor. They were skittish. It looked like a sort of a bottom half of the table side. Trying to play the best team in the league. It really was like that. And then you kept on thinking that. And then it was all Michael this is Spurs Spurs, really good. They are for them that their weakness in this game was that they were merely human because the more watch Manchester City at their best the more. I am coming to conclude that they've been turned into. Like liquid metal shape shifting T one thousand terminators. But then they did what they they just turn game off and the longer the game went on the state of it became kind of food the chess playing ability city on this field. Let's just say they didn't seem confident in their true passing game. And while the players shift around on the Spurs side, they seem to decide you know, what we're just going to more powerful, and our parents, but we're just going to hold them with one arm like an ankle allowing a kid nephew to win. Mill punches that we know we can keep an arm's length Spurs did up Chen's, his mom, always McCain had to one brilliant self made long, which which skimmed inches over the second one on one with Addison brilliant, Edison office line and filling his new kid and play tribute Hecker and he smother brilliantly and then lamilla the death. What happened? What happened? I think you'd be more Jewish NFL. Football Roach, skied it over. It was a beautiful move. It was an absolutely beautiful move. And he just thumped it high and left. Yeah. It was a Finnish that proved that there was something in football worse than the Wimbley turf. But it was all that second half the atmosphere crap the failed crap I mean, it was primarily third. It was an odd spectacle the game fell into a stupa. The crown they were silenced and just the glint of the Premier League the misty of the Premier League. It just fell away felt like we were watching just twenty two guys charge around muddy fill the allusion only allusion of the primarily the world's best. It was replaced by some kind of like second rate Japanese game show in which -letes have to battle each other on a potato patch. It was very good idea. By the way, I'm going to option. Sell that America? Is it great game show Lee elite performers having to perform in unorthodox conditions on a cabbage. Patch? I love this. Let my dreams I told you I have this recurring dream, I'm playing rugby like holes keep opening up in the ground, and you'll have trying to dodge the holes and the other players good gang. That was my childhood may dreaming about my childhood city. Shut it down couldn't really play the game on the bog. I think they were just happy to get the three points and no injuries. And that was it. They didn't create many chances city. You could also make the case they school because of one terrible trippy mistake. You could also mean the case, they didn't really go second gayer, but the stat the standards mind-blowing ten hours without conceding primarily goal now for them status mind blowing thing to everyone apart from pet Guardiola who could not have more board at the final whistle producer j dub says it looks like a man who is just so over this Premier League thing. Gary Neville, getting a little stick today in the British media for. For the state. He gave the Spurs. He called them spineless Roger cool that formed spineless. I mean, I say Spurs it's the best of times the worst times on one hand before this game suppose at twenty one point from their opening nine games that is their best start to a Premier League season as an evidence. I would God I would buy off your hand for like kind of a star. But that no signing all summer thing kind of fills out growing the on MTV champions. The campaign has been a disaster and their extended lease on Wembley as their new stadium. Opening is push forever further into the future future future. It's just a brutal distraction and Paci. No pre-game Utah glumly about this quote feeling like his worst feeling in five years as Tottenham boss is finished third. Second and third in his last three seasons has he done. You think they all the Cam for this burst team in four years and five months has he taken this team? As far as he can question. I think pasta Chino's done everything that could possibly be awesome. And I mean, these Spurs plas- Happel play grateful all the playground. Football has been in trouble form for some of that place particular generics. Does not seem quite the same play this season as he was lost. But just look at how competitive is look at how little how good city on how good I think all supplies how Chelsea on the season. And it's just Tom and that arsenal under night. Like looking like a completely transformed team and told them could find themselves, you know, back in fifth back in sick and struggling again. I mean, the excellent Daniel story pointed out since poetry Tina was appointed only city, and Chelsea of were more point. But they've done it by spending nine hundred and sixty five and eight hundred eighty four million dollars, respectively compared to Spurs three hundred and twenty three it's an active alchemy tonight epetition for poverty. No, I'm sure can exhaust the will of any magician who has to give his all to make it happen in kind of a Sicilian style. And watching you can clock. Spend almost I think is around five hundred million dollars more than them on the day that Spurs about to take on three hundred million more. Of debt yesterday just to complete their new stadium. I think anyone rational would start to think maybe next season. Maybe I can do with more instead of more with less and look at Real Madrid slightly differently. I hope not because I do not know we will say one last question for you, the US the United States, Dave they play England. The Wembley in two weeks time ten they're gonna leave the NFL signs in the hash marks on the failed to make our boys feel at home. That would be good for the USA. I doubt it's going to happen. I hope the pitch gets a little bit of a rest, and and it grows backs came a football. Do you do if accused lifts the hash marks? He loves the hash marks, Raj. Okay, liverpool. What everybody says livable Kadett one? This again football more televised possessions, assizes livable. Enjoy eighty percent of the ball calls from Mosala super solve Shaquir and a sideshow Monay brace keep the reds level on points with city near walk side. Meanwhile, somehow not in the relegation zone despite. Having just five points before the game. My make manager Neil Warnock motivated is boys by declaring it with quote virtually impossible for them to win. Spoken like biblical prophet. Because this was a battle between quality, and guess abject, lack of it. A quality best seen in Liverpool's finishing. They were phenomenal infant goals, especially Manet, who is such a remarkable mix of physical parent technical ability when he puts his mind to it. Most celebrate though, David most aren't back was he ever gone will be too hard on him. He's not even really celebrating scoring for fun Roach did smile, it'd smile Solta. But it wasn't smile at first of the season in a three games. Four goals. You look this play and he's still shooting with the same regularity. There's a slight sloppiness in his transitional play. There were twenty one turn overs in this game, which suggest something frightening that his head can still be sharpened. He can still return to the peaceful, and the there is still more to come from this gentlemen, but to assess and the goal in this game Liverpool fans will take it. What was interesting about this card if they score and that was their doing Callum Paterson flipped the ball past Allison with cardis? I in the box but new up before the game, you can club called Warnock, a lovely Hof in salt half compliment, he'd called him vocally talented, which I love. Sure Germans have a word for that. But one felt confident enough to send his team forward. Which was there and doing Liverpool school will could have been six or seven in truth, most, notably chicanery goes I Liverpool. Ligo unliveable funds. It really seems you embrace them in kind of MBA six months of the year. Yeah. I mean, look is playing fantastic football. I mean, he was very good footballer stoke, Raj and very good footballer has been Switzerland. For a long time. He seems to be an indifferent role surrounded by such good players Roach curious fit in so well, sort of playing between the lines Liverpool's attack is out of sync. Many people are still trying to make that case. What shell league when they are instinct based on this game twenty six points of ten games tying her club-record quick final appraised for Liverpool. Their fan group the spirit of Shankly raised a small fortune for Sean Cox, the fifty three or Liverpool fan you remember who sustain life changing injuries after being attacked before the champion's league semifinal against rumor last season. Money raised which includes will say generous donations from your club and from shameless. Coleman will go towards funding his medical care, which is a long term project. Sadly, Liverpool have pledged their official charity. The foundation will match every dollar raised that you can give a gofundme look up the gopher me support. Sean Cox bespoke to them for Crystal Palace to arsenal to a London Darby cracking game of Premier League football. I was there live and in person with the kids palace. Took the lead in first half injury. Timers Luca Milivoy vich put last weekend's Jordan pick for rejection behind him to slaughter penalty past burn lane. Also responded to stop the half time. I threw thumping Greenwich jacket free. Kate Hamble, very obvious Hamble assisted Mehan goal. But in the second minute arsenal shocked that hands when the Swiss down Wilfred czar. Inside the box. Milivoy veg scored his second of the game to split the spoils on another electric Creighton afternoon. You were there with these George sing it through is is there's no better bonding for a parent and a child without a doubt my daughter's with their two JJ Ingrid Nadel loved it. They just couldn't believe what they were saying, they just couldn't believe the atmosphere all the singing and just how the football was. They just almost like breakfast with excitement, and it was that kind of a game from the moment. It kicks off arsenal. I got like hats off to arsenal hats off to their exciting manager Emory. I just love the way he coaches in the technical area and love how vocalist I love how encouraging to his plan the whole time and watching an Astle team brought play with a strong central midfield. It's amazing. This is like it's so good to watch. Doozy. So impressive Tarare. Why is a tasty Araj and palace responded to every move the Astle Nate they were Menti fresh Astle. That's how describe them. We've rented fluoride in dental scrubs was stunning before the game is also for their twelve win in a row Rebecca pellets fan. Rebecca, maybe trying to curse them though. No con- speak for Rebecca. But she said just before kick-off scares, you know, he's Emory's team. They're winning machine. Cooling arsenal a winning machine. David ometepe. I had fifteen second back to hear it several times. Because to me it's stunning as cooling may a Hamel. But why we'll tell you about arsenal in a minute. And this one it was palace. The Pelata wasn't scooter home goal all season. But they were the ones who brought the spirit out flicking that ball around on the if they were also in the skies hit the post also seem to sleep. I said last week ozo- was like Salvador Dali and football, boots only praise, but I wanna say sometimes even Salvador Dali phone didn't. And I'm I'm looking to you nineteen thirty one's the persistence of memory, though, at me, Dolly funds. They opened the score in palace to Steffi's clumsiness staffy gonna miss staff a credit though penalty taker Luca Milivoy rich if you've done nightmares all week about Jordan Pickford and beautiful beautiful. Golden penis that must have honed take some ball to stay. That back up score twice from the spot yet. But it's a relief not to be playing against penalty. Saving expert Jordan pit Jesus. Playing against a regular human in the arsenal goal every four and five minutes of golden footballers. Poor sprite at Crystal Palace. Watch their home team play. They saw them score twice in this one arsenal. Oh. There were second of team in the second four five is when they do work their season, and they level things up stunning jacket free kick, and then took the lead to one when lack is that went misty may trade or anything is hand to punch the ball towards carry Walsh. Obama young who finished from an acute angle. It should be said, we a spike to the howling anguished cry rightly of hard done to palace fans, but what I loved was how gamely palace. I mean. That's what palace do their best. They tenacious the atmosphere grows in the stadium. The fans sing more and more and more. Nobody dropped their heads. When they went to one down having been one up, and yes, certainly also had that first half of the second half. But then two substitutions routes the German midfield my came on. And then oh my word solo came on. She is a giant Alexander solo. She came in and suddenly there was a focal point every attack. You see the arsenal? Centreback just didn't know what. To do with him. Also was taken off to Uproxx and he comes up, and he just shrew. Global like through something he was so angry to be taken off. And almost the entire atmosphere around the arsenal. Team change, those substitutions those little temper tantrum on the side, and it just all change. And I actually think that palace Ron lucky not come out of that game with a win. Yeah. I mean, you can make that case jacket returned to the decision making lunatic. The we're with you, stay warm and familiar with brought down a penalty. The you could see coming from miles away. I mean with the game clock ticking down. Here's the man who you won't have the bull is fee. It's like some deaf in Booker having ball in his hands in the final seconds of a Suns game amazing stat since the star of two thousand four season only Jamie Verde as we're more penalty thirteen and the primarily the Wilford has eleven and that was that Milivoy vich again. No golden Peniston goal. No problems and the drawer that as you say feels like a win for pellets and a loss for us. For whom Liverpool now away with a winning streak snapped. They also still delirious still twelve games and being Burnley Nils Chelsea full Ross Barkley brought ruckus or maybe it was John CENA Roach eaten Zog less Chelsea registering to assist scoring England's number four. Joe hearts to keep Chelsea, unbeaten. Also on the school. She of our Murata, Roach Williams and goal-machine are LC from Lucien. Ruben Loftus cheek no Eden is our new problem earliest no problem against defenses porous as Burnley Chelsea able to score freely because well all hail Ross Barkley Ross. The boss Dave directly involved in four goals in his last see primarily games two goals to assess as many as in his previous twenty two that nineteen million dollars you paid for him. Looking like a bogging you mentioned earlier how much money Chelsea spent? But. This is a team that managed to do great business again. And again, and again because if they wanted to these value right now is way more than nineteen million. It's unbelievable ritual. They've done Everton. He was a street. Football was no doubt. He was skilled, but his tactical decision making was and has long been suspect here Morton Tyler the commentator. I want interviewed him, and he said what separates and always remember this. What separates truly great footballers familly. Good ones. Is that decision making every football? When the ball comes to his or her feet. They get a decision to make pass shoot dribble. And he said the truly great make better decisions more time. It's that simple and Everton BRUCE'S decision making. It was haphazard. I think looking back on it probably an amalgam of the pressure. He was feeling it was our young diamond. And the fact they was playing on the team that if he couldn't do it. Who would? Yeah. But Seri his coaching and all. Probably the fact that Ross's now playing on the team where he's third or fourth option. It means he can shine and the for and in doing so he can grow and been rush by all those around them, which seems on the evidence of the past four games. He really has. So I'll say this all power to I mean. It's easier to make decisions you've got his art who you're playing with you positive him. You've got Willie and you pass it to him. It's a, but he is he's playing really really good football. And he's playing in that position that can be so dangerous about securely just sort of an advanced midfield. He's playing just behind the front players gets in between the lines on on that Chelsea team. He get some time on the ball and the time on the ball Rothbart. They can be very dangerous Chelsea unbeaten after I hang games of top flight football for just the fifth time in history. I'm reading your tattoos now nine hundred sixty four sixty five sixty six sixty seven two thousand five six and two thousand fourteen fifteen as you know, Dave, oh, they went on to win the title those two last occasions how you feeling Chelsea good. But I think there's still a work in progress. Sarah football is still not completely better than I think they're going to win some silverware this year. I don't think it's going to be the primarily, I'll just say this. I couldn't be more. Delighted. That you and I are flying over together for visit Britain to watch the Chelsea Everton game together watching Ross Berkeley score a hat trick in a five nil. Chelsea row is going to meet Phil like a trip to a dentist who was also an amateur guility wilder. I'm only going for the pie. Whoa. May that to the Manchester United to Everton one judge Marino side, struggled Champions League surrender against eventers to repel an evidence side that at one three in a row. Pull Popa hit first on twenty seven minutes getting his own rebound after run-up that was the opposite of Michael Jordan jumping from the foul. Line pulpit turned provider, his fellow Frenchman Tony Maciel on forty nine minutes. And despite Chris Melling doing his best to make things interesting with an absolutely shocking, even by small ING standards tackle that gifted guilty of penalty United hold onto win and temporarily steady HMS Old Trafford trying to transport myself back to a time before this game kicked off I've rarely seen. Everton and the culture around them feel more comfortable when they marched into Trafford those three consecutive league wins marines. You know, he didn't chaos from inevitable perspective this game. It felt like a real acid test for Marco, silver and his ability to only subvert the natural order in surf fearlessness insert confidence. Whether it's been non in the past you look out, and we talked about on the television show evidence way record against the big six in the eighty s Everton were in what we call the big for. But against the big six last ten years on the road. Just five wins from sixty one away gains before this wanted excruciating. It's been five years since last one, and I've watched so many of these games that David Moyes days when he go to Old Trafford and just try not to get thrashed setup to banks of five it was often dire. Where Roberto Martinez would go in like a paper tiger like a box with a glass jaw. And we get thrashed mauka Silva's habitant name. An attacking line-up team confident game plan. They did open fearlessness, but it was done in this game by one goal unfair a second that was breathtaking could only be in my that penalty. David. It wasn't a penalty was it. I don't have set you you've seen them given. But yes after after replay. I'm sure if that have been far it probably wouldn't have been given. But in real life. We've seen shocking decisions weekend. The vote of corrected all would have corrected this. I couldn't agree with you more. I mean wasn't a foul. If he didn't say it gonna her chilly got the ball for Marshall. But what he did he allowed Marshall to fling himself over and outstretch limb like a moth of the flame. It was a dive in the internet referee. Joe Masa point you doing if you've watched as you're you're suggesting the history of Everton versus United at all Trafford in those angels. That was a penalty that was a pellet. You you give that penalty at Old Trafford whenever ten play Manchester. Ated, but we're penalty pope is penalty. How would he describe it? They've firt for someone who didn't watch the avant garde theatre puppetry to use the poker. Just unfurled. It was it was a thing during the puppetry of the penis. I did I was going to say but didn't say so you just the puppetry. Just the puppetry Roach. It was a twentieth step run out, and even that doesn't accurately describe how old it was. Because it was almost like he was in a sort of a middle school pantomine production the front end of a horse. The back into the of the of the. Creeping lurching very very odd thing. I mean children pick face during the whole thing. Just doesn't crack a small amazing completely lost it. If you didn't. If you've ever watched Scooby doo shaggy tra- move from one place to another when he's being chased by the bad guys. And they kind of like Trump very theatrically from behind one large base to trying to get to behind the curtain. That's how Pogue eighty seven seconds is penalty from start to finish twenty eight steps we joke the marathon runners completed the twenty six miles in short time than it took him to get to the ball. Sure is in a voice as he what's he thinking when these doing that printing preening pantomime horse trotting towards the boy is he just like I'm going to do this. I'm not gonna do it. I'm not I am going to do. I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm by do it. I mean, I'm gonna I'm gonna winced appropriate. No, no, no. I'm going to the story. I'm gonna inst- story this improperly close, but all these things. Instagram, Instagram, Instagram, Instagram, Instagram, Instagram, Instagram, Instagram, grandma's, the grant that was it. He just got caught in like a little a little Instagram loop in his head. I'm not sure the he even intended to do it. He just couldn't stop himself from doing it it till longer than fifteen seconds. Instagram story allows you to the penalty. I mean, a man who is in the wise news these FM himself. He's F and himself and all of us completely and utterly. I went into every emotion. I really did. I mean, there was just the penalty. So nuring Popa dragged it out more than anybody in the history of penalties is dragged out that fair that just do. And then you see Jordan Pickford tiny, Jordan Pickford fling himself with is beautiful golden penis to repel the ball. Not in my house says tiny English to Cambay Matombo, and it was just a maybe eight seconds of just complete exhibition joy and reprieve. And then, of course, the doom and self leaving that kicked back in Polk budget fully didn't rebound with Everton defenders. You love this June pick for two Doral his Doral second dive, Jordan, Pickford, second dive. I could watch on on Luke again describe you just sometimes forget what he saving penalty just how tiny children pick. But his he's like, I'm not sure he's over four for the Levin and team safe the first one he looks like a giant. And then suddenly on the rebound. He suddenly look three tool dives all the way across the goal that doesn't even make it halfway cross roads to go and get the bull. It was a dual rule that second time. Yeah. More painful, watching Jordan Pickford, second dive is what Jing Michael Davis. What's jordan? I should watch it yourself. But when speaking to police officers who spent a lot of time on crime scenes, they say that when someone is going to be shot. They will hold anything up in front of the bullet that they can get the hands on even a piece of paper that last second desperation. You will hold up a piece of paper to transfer bullet just out of desperation on that second that'll dive it did look like Jordan Pickford was just desperately holding up a piece of paper. He knew he was doomed, and it was the maze pathetic tiny little baby. Taking their first dive into swimming pool door is still a beautiful golden penis. And he's my hair per second. Go unbelievable. I my greatly about that second go polka could have should have. And in his head into the story. It's the proper in story insta- proper. He should've shot the ball. But instead came back to the Moines Tyler decision saying Brennan decisions the Baltimore, she L. I'm what signature web. He puts on that bull. When he smacks. It was an unbelievable show. Roach is look like a goal in favor and Marcial. He's just like peace. He's middling the bull right now. It has this amazing sound to it crack when he hits it as well. Fantastic. Bill five goals in seven appearances against advertising, adverts and killer. He's unstoppable so much talent. To me, a symbol of all the latent potency that is lying Duman inside this Manchester. United the good squad. Their team score again is a testament to the power of redemption. And again, another unlikely savior for Josie marina heated Everton at chances. The terrible on the break. We got a penalty which created hope but intrigues without Jordan Pickford have been a blowout without referee. Joe moss. It could have been the drew. I'm speaking to you Everton fans. However, I will say the so much groundhog day experience about watching advert and play big teams. You persuade yourself before kickoff that this is going to be the day. And then you charge at the football like Charlie Brown will Lucy holding. But the results always say despondency, the sped the fate. The Marco silver revolution is going to take telling people having said that this was the best of seniors you play this season. They can play they can play slig- competition creative football. We saw a hair. Roy is no dream. We saw an I sort against Chelsea the weekend before Roach when they played very very well. They're good good footballing side. A lot of talent. I still think they're going to be there. Or thereabouts come the end of the season. I don't mean to like winning the Kremlin, but contending Champions League place. I still think they're going to be there. Battling big teams. I Bohm for Europa league place. Nice segue, bro. Talking of the cherries. Fulham nil balm three another win for the streaking cherries. They stay in sixth place behind Campbell's. Bryson the goal from the Premier League football of most likely to be caught it at an hour as it film. Baby face. David Brooks news, not quite as good a craving cottage Roach as they lose their full stripe that in eighteenth place. What can you say about full of the most imbalanced side and the Premier League spent more than one hundred thirty million over the summer almost all on tacking players. Don't like, bro. You're only works in the gym on that bike shops never has a leg that that defense has been a revolving door, and it's been a bit of a disaster this less love you kind of each as the bookies favourite for the sack and bake Sam scouting rentals employees shops around Craven Cottage. Bouma they telling me Bouma six six and afforded so much space by Fulham on the wings because they're terrified of what they're going to do them down the middle. Just the movement of that team Roxy the kind of football they play all the way from the back to the front. They just took full Mecom. They really took them appall. Then also the scouting finding a diamond in the rough like Brooks tiny baby-faced pool. A Brooks that run for his goal at diagonal run. All young American players. What should? Look at that run is a thing of one after a quarter of the season. Bouma six only the big five of one more by big five. That's the big six minus United Wofford three. How does fill nil victory road the primarily box with the best designer labels? Tasty goals from Roberto Pereira Gerard della fail and Isaac success. I love that nine keep the ones in seven. How meanwhile one of two teams yet to win a game. They sit dead last. There's bad teams in the crummy league this year Russia. Gives me. No pleasure to say this failed winless hopeless just food goal scored all season. And in this game, h worryingly seemed unable to defend first Pereira, then Jerry day one angel beloved Mahar trotted molested food that of the Huddersfield defense. What foot back is back Brighton. One all Snell. If there were ever criminal striker would consider growing the saplings top our head to emulate roaches to one another league Glen Murray. The thirty five year old bull tonight scored his sick of the season. This on Roach only Bamiyan has salt have mall Brighton with third on the spin while nuno's malt lose for the second straight week wools revolution as a speed them. Two losses on the run the goals at joined up mischance of the chance after winning four games at five and drew in the other Old Trafford. They've now lost against for embroi- in they face Tottenham, an ask. No. And then X couple of games. Brian three wins on the run. Chris you the the most resilient performance seen since last week. Matt Ryan heroic goal Shane Duffy Lewis dunk, say two of the most effective yet. Unheralded centrebacks in the league. But you'll make Dave Glen Murray hundred go for Brian professional road has been counted out again and again and again in his career never returned. He was too slow. It was too thick. He was wasn't a Mullen footballer. And he just keeps on finding a way to defy critics in school goals. Thirty five years of age thirty five years of age a plane who is a classic English poacher a position never mind. The play that was been written off that position has been written off scored five goals in five home league games. It's remarkable. What Jim I mean? It's a took out on the show when you drive on the highway and you see like a vintage car in unbelievable condition like a mink condition Chevrolet caprice class. One of those cars with the exquisite wood penalty. How all 'cause not have what penalty that when the law and all you can do when you look at it and you drive. That's just fantastic. I love what they just marvel. When you watch it. That's how fail when I watched Glen Murray. And I wonder what like crystal pellets versions dumped him they said he was too slow to immobile too old to be a Premier League striker what team that who are crying out for goals say when they same scream for fun for Brighton. And hey, Valby unbelieving you were on my group chat. Which includes crystal Steve parish and blend Murray's agent will soul house you'll see how often Wilson house. Remind state all about that south having to nil Newcastle. Mill. That's the city one west. The FOX's came back to ten men. Western courtesy of eight eight-minute Wilfried indeedy effort, but about an hour of the game. The helicopter Roach belonging to and carrying less to owner Vishakha see what Anna proper and four others crashed in the king power cop killing five people on board, including the sixty year old type businessmen to members of staff, the pilot and the pilots parliament. Tell you where to begin. I mean. Five deaths we mourn that passing but the chairman Manny made memories for millions of the buying club that that club had share foam. What this Fisher erotica witness pumped millions wiped out the debt fill the infrastructure, and then catalyze I'm watching the footage again with the with producer J view is we put it in the men in blazers show that five thousand to one dream season. I still can't believe it happened. Even though we know watching it again, you still it's the most miraculous thing we've all ever seen in decades of watching football winning one game, but smiling all comers all season long defying primarily truth that success equates to payroll. I mean, this is a man who only change your club. But a city an entire city and transformed beyond that every single sports fan of every single sport that belief of what's possible. What's possible? Everything is possible. Not not not just. In sports ban life. Ultimately to me that is like you can just tell the outpouring of love. For him. The tributes the flowers from the city fans, the population of less and kinds across football and personalities across football road. This was a very popular man and a really tragic tragic and to his line from we just feel for everybody associated with less city football club, the city of LeicesteR and relatives of everybody lost their lives, so tragically. Parsing will be mourned by fans all around the world certain death, sudden nature of the death. It's a reminder to make memories to save a life while you can. And we send only love less the city and their fans around the globe. Save a life mate memories to life. He'll looks now like a V shy son. I Awadh who I interviewed primarily winning manager cloudier, Renae era. He's the man lightly to be tasked with leading city and talking about the city, huge huge respect huge respect in huge love to all white who professionally kept all of his emotions. And there are so many emotions experiencing right now can the wall in check while talking life with such insights such wisdom such reverence for Visha a man who's given all an every Leicester City found some of the happiest sporty members. I'd say probably some of the happiest moments of all of his lifetime. So I say to you all like to more memories. And to joy, we're going to see him in about ten days time, we're gonna be with them. We're gonna couple of drinks where we can't wait to be of ROY David absolutely Roja storm in London briefly the full tragedy happened, okay? In MLS Roach. The New York red bulls won the two thousand eighteen supporters. Shield pipping it from Atlanta United on the final day of the season Sunday five stripes win would have seen them playing the first piece of civil in franchise history. But as Lanta fell full one at Rondeau the rebels handled Orlando one two nil to secure the Trumpster supporter shield Lantieri knighted, not the only broken hearts position diverge decision day. It's even bigger than the midterms, right? Galaxy lost fell to make the playoffs and the last we see of Latin MLS, and it may or may not be say thank you for the sound and the fury, and ultimately the sadly empty hype a lengthy heated fumbled with the supports cap in that gross. But watching how they maintain their focus now manager Tatham Martino has announced he's going to leave post-season to coach Mexico that on the stone to fill rubbernecking, we wish them. Well, the red bulls. They did win the support shale to me. They're everything. That's good in football. True. Collective play. Call the energy of youth, and they have all best friend the legend, Bradley wright-phillips was story. They would be if they went all about said the team they wanna talking about that everyone should be talking about Seattle just had the best back knowing of season in MLS history. No one that's been taking them seriously neglect limit you risk. The thing that makes me happy right now. The so much more coverage. Really filling up the way is being treated in the English media mostly because a roommate DC annoy take go deep could be the best thing that's happened to the league in a long longtime from global perspective. Yeah. Pretty fascinating coming out. Tomorrow Roach with Lancia United president Darren Eales who bravely returns to the panic room. The former Spurs front office executive gives us the five lessons. He's learned from running team in the second season sounds like hall business review worthy stuff. Roach is fantastic. Because he's fantastic. And I genuinely cannot wait for people to listen to that and the hair their reaction. He's a remarkable, man. And phenomenal story. 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27 - Ole & Co. Take the Manchester Derby, Liverpool & Leicester Cruise and Big Dunc Leads Everton Past Chelsea

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27 - Ole & Co. Take the Manchester Derby, Liverpool & Leicester Cruise and Big Dunc Leads Everton Past Chelsea

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Sixteen in in England's Premier League and here's some of the topics we're GONNA be talking about in this show liver polar last a cruise to easy victories against borth and Everton's in fatty win against Chelsea Chelsea in that first match under Duncan Ferguson Spurs dimension of Burnley of course under appreciated performances of the week but first Robbie. Let's start with with the match of the weekend. The Manchester Darby expectations were the Manchester City at home would have too much Manchester United. I think we we agreed and we knew that this was a really interesting matchup. In terms of styles city love to possess United's defence sometimes questionable double Amman united. We knew that that counterattacking pace will be a problem for mine city with the newfound problems. Defensively what do you think to the game. In general what surprised me in the Game Rob is actually that It was Manchester. City's setup strategy. The proved better than they were more comfortable in their own skin. You there was an understanding of what they were trying to do. And that was to allow each possession to allow them positions chains on the pitch. And then they were gonNA breakable down quick counterattack speed of Jayme speed of Rockford movement of Lingo D- underneath marshy. Al And give into city city defensive problems and the absolutely work to treat to the point where with maybe a third of the possession much probably created better CIANCI's in an halftime two nil. Not could have been three or four. They had a great great start to the game. Great first-half I think this is. This is built on a on a defensive ends if display from Manchester United that we haven't seen really under elegance Osha. There's been moments. I think we would agree. That against the best sides united the happiest yet. They're happy when they before. Against the big establishes shape. which is this easier to do rob than to go enough to have the bull so the so we can be the source of secondary team in the game can allow? The big team comes to help the bull win on the. It's easy Coach I make sure you're setting a strong setup and let them have it more than okay. We're GONNA play whoever is jeff suffrage invited home and break slightly And in in a creek away I is easier not why not not necessarily the right word is is it if you look at that group of plays is it the quality amongst them to do it the other way all you making in best use of what you've got at this point as a great question I don't think I don't think with this squad a place. Yeah but typically Whiteman on city They're going to go toe-to-toe possessing not with this coach. I'm with this group but but rightly so when the plaza. If you've got Don James who I'll tell you what the the more I see him. The more I I really respect what he's doing and how hard it is for twenty two year old to come into this team at this club club and be consistent and he's a little worker so so we're not gonNA social talks about resetting the culture we we. We've heard many times. This is what he's talking talking about. He's talking about a strong shape of team. The all players were card. Because that's what he remembers asserts Ferguson. That's what we played against. And that's what he's trying Ronna do do the club right now bringing really good players that all care and they work really hard and I think defensively we got to pick out a few rob were staunching shing an hour one pacifica again recent signing from Crystal Palace Young Player of the time. I'm thinking wow that's a big move. We seen enough that he can justify that move. What we've seen is a defendant? The defense one on one in a wind position. I'm just thinking before I say it. The the the best of any defender in the Premier League Rob Sims a stop in his player not only beaten him and to be fair is up against one of the banks go around him but in general nobody gets round this guy. Nobody can get his feet and swing at him because he'll stop across as well it's dreamlike for manager. The you know the down one side you got defended. It's going to do everything and and achieve very little coming from that side. And he's grateful. It's great for defenders Goalkeeper Women Back in the day we used to say if we deal with stopping the classes. We don't have to worry about the bowl in the box and so we you get tired and this this kid is out. Stunned is in is a rural athlete. He's a powerful kinda destructive four. She can get forward when he needs to. But as you say he's got physical presence to dominate even the best in the league the Lindelof actually nobody was still on the day at times. I think we both go down. Say Muslims question his. It's kind of like pysche analogy it. Does he go any shallow. Bit On big moment is he a guy embraces the big the big occasions well on school was outstanding with these defending sandy more these tactical play loss exceptions one against getting open and saw giving himself Congratulations was outstanding. And and it's even more so considering who they are plants where it was away from him. Because we've talked like every season to pet city. The number one game plan is to find a way to get behind you often in the wider areas so it was always going to be a test of armone BASSAC and Luke Shaw of. Can you stop those. Why players coming through but Outta Silva rhyme sterling to tremendously talented young players and often times rob the best approach against cities to play five or the back so a four pack? You'll get a get ask questions. Do you come inside to go. Costa my winger. So just I just in terms of the back. Four Luke Show included rob. Yeah because he doesn't look first off alive. Look into top condition. He's not the one BA soccer bill dizzy we know but but too fat to him he had a really good game and then McGuire. Does those two in front of him by the way off the key to it as well because they have to chase ruinous at times when Silva goes and he isn't going to get the ball but he's running out position you got the discipline to keep. Don't even this is the one time you done when they find the passing game in yes is proving to be a really key player I'm sure as as a future captain of the football club raw. What he brings his spirit where he came from the academy? Five years old. I think it might have been Scott mcdonagh dominate so he has grown grown and grown. And you know the spirit was excellent. The work ethic In this game I we will see whether this is a a corner properly turned whether social now is message across. But we've got to see it consistently we got to see. Yeah we can. We count no matter who they play that work. I think that spirit that defends ability has got to be there and then if there's games where they can't break down your opponents or for whatever reason they then that's something that the team after bill on but the defensive part the strength was something that everybody appreciated. No you know Roy. Kane is doing a lot of media work right now in the UK and when he says that was a proper Manchester United performance as harsh critic he is he is in in the role as condemn raising the praise. And I'm sure that the the manager and the club and the team will will know that it's the standard in terms of the spirit and the determination nations and the togetherness that this got to continue absolutely and just before we move on because I never wanted to maybe bigger picture in terms of united in the future. What what do you think? I'll let you go first. What do you think the reasons? Why can a monster? Nineteen Channel Against Manchester City again spurs against the the biggest teams. We've seen this season and win games last Chelsea. And then it happened at Boris Newcastle. In place. Why because I can't be lack lack of quality I think a couple of reasons I think they they were not in? Haven't got up for games as much as they should do. Some of the a young players rob do they understand but some of them some of them learning a little bit more. I the need to be on it for every single game. A bigger reason in my opinion is it's not super expensive creative team rob so if a team wanted to do a job. Yeah and then then. I'm prairie defensive and compact space in behind the LEXA Marcio James. Marcus respite intelligence ingenuity the craft to still create and score goals vessel. They've been lucky mainly and they look they look blunt. They know maverick and then US whenever people say. Wow this is an average average team. It's one of the worst united he we've seen executives such as such so. I'm not saying after watching this game. And the and the Spurs victory on Wednesday that the. Everything's going to be roses roses in the garden now. Always saying his vast good as we go we WANNA point out. It's just now developing to be an all around team. I'm rob come winning in against opponents in different ways. Yeah because you say that was a man. Schneider performance talked about results against spurs them on city for the first time since since I think last March gives them a base gives them an opportunity to to move forward in terms of all evolve in getting getting performance on on days when maybe not glamorous the cameras on the headlines on it is a big thing and it was interesting to hear him after the game. Talk about where he sees. He's the future. I'm this where this can go. All I can say what it means to you personally to beaten a Joseph Marino team and a pep guardiola team in five days three days. We don't have the amount of recovery that these two teams of we've we've suffered through but seriously them twenty four hours. There's less recovery it's hard. It's it's if you look at A physical output that these poise put in them. Twenty twenty four hours is is a big advantage and we can see that towards the end today but personally I'm just pleased voice that they get confirmation on the direction we go in. We look like it Monday night did seem And that's the big thing for me fascinating and rob it. It naturally leads us to talk quickly about how much this boosts his standing on Monday nights standing with the the fund standing with the players the squad standing with everybody looking at this club this huge club and this guy this got super inexperienced managing this level and those results against top managers pep guardiola enjoy. Reena Roy does it. He's a ton a pressure and get more respect. The maybe. That's Ju I'm be allowed to get on with his job now. Absolutely and and issued rubber. Listen we saw here and I think we've both Seddon and don't go from the point of saying if plus Tina was available I think he's uh-huh I'm a guy for the job but all these in the job is is winning games he you we've now got to give him the scope and the room to either the prove himself a successful much monitoring or not I think he deserves and he's in And I think it's wrong now to keep saying well they're gonNA make the move. You know going on to wins or two losses. I think as you said Shum toxically in in two important games. He can team up to two to win matches he's shown as a versatility an and they accurate if he was Josiane Menino. We'll be saying the master plan another master plan by Josie Well Charlie and the housing got the CV and he hasn't got the silver and housing experience. But he's in charge of Munshi. Not Right now and I think we've got to give him the chance to to prove himself or not before we stall adult moving onto. WHO's she'll be an things onto that rob big games? He's proving vague teams for big games and get results. We've seen obviously there's not a few days and also really important part of it. Money spent so the three players that came in we've talked a lot about him Don Jamieson McGuire acquire there in the team and they're doing well and they wanted another right type attitude they they've got enough ability to really this first eleven and that's going to give the club would would trust like wow you know what we did get money and those players have done well. He's going to get some more in January. Louis Van Gaal who spent a lot of money didn't have great. He's awesome way more experienced money. So it's really really interesting forever up to Manchester City And I think I think now the is pretty obviously not GonNa win the Fermi from now Less cut to the chase here. I mean pep Guardiola. Looks like straighted figure I think the Dayton Fi. We'll tell you the defensively. The same point of last season. Wait now. They have conceded ten more ten more goes against and that's the pretty in Moscow the same goals four or five This point forty four this year so fast the difference And is there anything more in it than Vincent Company left. They didn't replace awesome and they go on lucky that there started defendant Emmerick. Nepal got injured. I that that willingness to add to other areas rotary dreary consolo. Is that one of the plan. Thinking of the came into the club Helene you came back into the cubs wealth and they didn't address setback issue. Is that something. That's really biting his backside right now. He's Yovany go forth officials for possible humbles and he's going when with with such aggression is if I think he's Paul frustration for what you see with these team and the way the plane. I think it's way the pet can convention in some respects. He the Vincent Company thing is a choice they made and at the time and we people can go back and check on non-opec as we both said this is a tough call. We you know Kobe amateur. Get the twelve months. He was playing the Games rob. If this was a this was if he was now he would have played against against united. You big game called on him you let him go dot your choice. The poll Getting injured listen. You can't you can't voucher. How are you GonNa be Johnstone? GotTa think about it though you gotta think about Johnstone's full off of his position position and he's standing in the football club now. Johnstone's is tuning into Phil Jones. Focus moly that's turning into play who you can't trust who in a big game if you play around him long enough will give you an opportunity to score. A goal couldn't agree more. That's that's the way. Change Curry moved so rob. If if if that's where we've got to then isn't oversight by pat now you you make a billion before while you say in Tim's PEPs possession. Complain and thing is so fine that defending become second. Because you've got the ball and he's GonNa Jump Not GonNa win win or lose. I think the the the issue I have with peppers. He's only going to win. Titles one way the sexy the hundred point nine point tiles last season brilliant. He isn't going to win an ugly pile should he still do stick to what you do. Differences Real I. Don't I think we need to get into his philosophy. He document philosophy argued Detroit. Trophy is if you thinking if you if you you want to win. It's time you might just have to get another center by right. I create because that person boxer but it is is. He doesn't need to send He. We'll buy another show attacking midfield play before we say I'll dominate the ball over over expectation of Dino Rubio the he could shop back there so who he thinks about company said well. You know what we've got stones now and we can do it. Yeah they can do it and he's asked to do it now because of the poor and he hasn't hasn't been good enough I don't I don't know I don't think that he will consider changes philosophy to win a title. He would he would have to admit he made a mistake Jake. He made a mistake. Assuming that the central defenders available this season give him what might happen with injuries was going to be good enough and I said on our show today rob you write like an insurance policy if our football on it and there's GonNa be turnover. It's going to be transitions. I'm with LaPorte. And Vincent Company and Funding Joe is a holding midfield player. That insurance policies enough to snuff out enough counter-attacks rob. Did they still win games now. That balance has been shifted because company. LaPorte no not there Finan Dina's not in the middle of midfield defensively. Were easier brilliant. So that insurance policy is flawed and now the casinos the dropping points because of that and finally on that as well the chumps of said on this show many times before against the best sides of good attackers. Even insurance policy of fencing company. And everybody else wasn't isn't enough and he's not the issue before other clubs where the Champions League over two legs teams can find a way to get past him and this season. I can't see how they can win the Champions League given the defensive issues maybe if Lepore is back in February march time the knockout stages get going. They've got a chance I just don't think he's insurance. Has To be strong as anything and it's not I wouldn't come out the jumpings league I wouldn't go for. I know you feel strongly without the pool. I think if they go back to dominate culminating the football well enough in schooling goals. They're good enough of two games to win a jumpsuit and focus might just change a little bit now four points behind Lucille. He might start saying you know what we have start concentrating. Our and then a strange way everything will be forgiven. If undulating that big trophy ended the season not wanting to apparently yeah Monte from lassie's okay my friend let now unfortunately We've got a switch to a disturbing disturbing occurrences that happened in the Manchester Dhabi Sadly we witnessed again awful apart behavior. From one city Fam- The look like an alleged allegedly looked like he ratio blues abuse in place From Manchester United. Now we add. I'll say earlier on we're trying to bring forward what could help the situation and the first thing to say. We both know that it's been going on for a long time now. It seems recent times because of worldwide reporting and media is happening more than ever in other countries and people finding out about it but it is in England. I is in the primarily a We've gotta find ways to stop connoisseur. It's an unfortunate situation. You know we're GONNA punish the guy we call it the more than that Rowbotham find find a policy to to proactively. Stop this happening. Yeah we shouldn't just be making comments about this. We should be concentrating on this. This should be a consistent in from nasty this going every week. Every ground in schools educating people about behavior and the the social issues out there and that when people come to a sporting arena that there should be no abuse and if it is it should stand out that by itself polices and people are dragging people out the crowd and throwing them to the police in them. Being invested and lifetime bans the individuals is a minimal stall in point a minimal stone. Point where we've gotta get to Rob. I is real deterrents real things. Football Clubs individuals That stop this thing happening. And and the FA who are the governors of the game and say about the governors of the game from all of all a grassroots boughten kids playing two elite England national team the FAA have a responsibility to address this issue. Do they need money. These money all over football the Premier League and leagues do they need domestic. Jeez these plays out that desperate to go out and start was go. Oh you know what they need to do is get together get some adult grown up thinking installed putting plans in place so we can address this thing. So we're not ominous conversational every three humans and then it becomes you say front and Center for a week and then he died off again till the next two simple to ask or expect suspect that within stadiums. There's a ton of signs around there's Zillions TV screens around the concours. These stadiums to have videos running all the time or frequently so so fans can can hear the message again and again and again and signs and then the other part of that would be the punishments from the FAA if a found guilty the club. Unfortunately yeah that's going to be in in terms of section of the state of happen to be closed as a as a punishment or a game behind closed doors or whatever then you talk about self policing shortly then fans if they see something or hear something would would maybe self police so it doesn't happen so they don't get kicked out for the next game. I don't disagree with any of your sentiments. And actually the the way you you you do now Mike Big Thinking on this is yes all is is important and necessary and should be constant reminders in the stadium Bo. If we at this stage trying to educate I don't people in a stadium with coming to the party too late. We have got to start this education program in schools schools. So kids kids growing up. Don't see the Chola. Don't act that way. Don't don't behave in in the money that we've seen and then those reinforcements are in the full clemency. That and then and only then will do. I think we'll start to address this this with C Issue Bother I mean just just doing it to lip Sivy says seems to We come week Noel. Suburb in. It's been a difficult we can I again just those issues Really really sad. Part of life in the primitive right now in England. Okay let's take a break right now and we'll be back talking the other big stories from this weekend in the primarily. Aw everyone knows about the risks of driving drunk. Doc You could get in a crash. People could get hurt or killed but let's take a moment to look at some surprising. Statistics almost twenty nine people in the United Not States die every day an alcohol impaired vehicle crashes. That's one person. 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This was a perfect weekend. I it was. It was a gentle entry into What's going can be difficult game in in Europe and unfortunately for born with funds they're going through that posse streaky Sentiment foster eight defeat for them but actually the game wasn't it wasn't about Beaumont it was about Liverpool Robin and I think what this week is brought home to is the competition of squad the quality in depth service Liverpool Group We still goals in the mid Sato bought by the Loutish. Kyrie really plays. We went to show whether they okay. Come in against palm off late Chamberlain with a beautiful first goal now be cater. You could be really important. Play for Liverpool. Just coming in is Oh not say repeal. Few plays schools ago Mexico. Mosala who wasn't quite been is basketball. Gets a goal as well. You couldn't have wanted three more Liverpool place to get those goals and put them in good stead such great news for European Club Rob. Because I don't care what anybody says I still think he's reluctant sent to rotate those front. Three players. We see more often in midfield Navigator has been a plan. That kind of looks good. Then he's been injured so it's really important. An and as credit sue to I guess the manager and the club and Physio side of things they look in great shape and when they are asked to play by your club. They look like they want to and do well. And at that part to this special season I know it must have when you know that you're on a special Run it looks like you could be champions of in English football but just just to have those players come in and play that well a make that much impact in terms of goals and assists my goodness housing. You got a great squad to be able to us over a very difficult December month. The only thing I would say about December with another go away for these These World Cup games and I know lots been made of the amount gains in December. I just I look at it and think well you know what when they go is it. Qatar is now those games going to be super super competitive could he rotate players. Isn't that important that you risk star players in the big games are no. There's a lot of money involved. Just think that trip might might not be the draining difficult trip. The yes you can clubs in in the winter break winter break but but the things or something. When they won't be away that I might not be draining? It might be a change of scenery. wrote the the rotation continues news on the Games aren't quite as intense as they used to. It could be listened to traveling. I don't think have a helps. It's Kinda distance and no things you never know the conditions in the a heat and listening to you can make lots of arguments. Why won't be what we call a jolly? Oh back in the day but listen you make a valid point. We'll the games with the same intensity intensity if they don't do well in the first game so you know they. Maybe don't go. Don't play as many games having done it. They want to win. I think you can quote one. I'm not trophy. I think he's a manager who when he goes for something he probably sat in a culture football club why they WANNA win matches however I whatever games and we've seen this season so it's going to be interesting time when they get to Johnny's we'll see I think the biggest thing to come. Ah this week is that I think you'll start to trust. Some of the play is in big games that maybe he wasn't so sure before which is huge news ficus Alexa Saudi-omani and for me no and Saleh another players that are important players. They need a break given given the fix and give them what they're trying to do in this incredibly difficult Marathon marathon overseas and the is the primarily US going to be super important. Before we move on rob I do want to talk about boom real quick because I thought and we You know I really like Eddie Handy House but I always give credit when I feel credit. Is Jim An also give a rocket when I finished you and I think Bulma home with was shocking and I know this injury issues. I know that I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about effort an application against a great side right and I've seen it before we send them and I know the I know the model Robert. I know that they'll that. They'll play the same wagons all teams and the game against the teams in Obama. They hope to get enough points to step and they've done it tremendously well but if I'm not stadium is Obama phone. I'll tell you I'm I'm almost poo in the team because the F foot it it was so easy for Liverpool though is embarrassing and as a midfield player and you know I was like as a player. I I'd WanNa give around all try something. I don't want to be passive if on chasing shadows and just watching these these star Players Avenue afternoon and I thought born with guilty of that because because Y- because you know and and sometime you I'm I wind you on the radio because I know you think he's great good you'll manage believes the more he does and I totally totally get it bulk. Ready how rob and this this. Every season visually little spouse so as bad as though they yes. He's got injuries injuries and we go all out. Let's take Eddie how the manager for moment what's he doing in those situations don't you. What should he he be doing? How should he be doing all? These kind of things are slightly holding him back to get in the kind of jobs when all smells available when Abington is available and people linke's name but he never got some good question you'd never get. It's a good question because could football or other owners thing you know when when it's going well for really good and they're really for a bigger clubs. The striving for for more achievement stick week by the way he does. He needs a little pad. Like finding the way you and dig it out Logan and if if you lose five games at boomers depends on very happy. So you know it's not the end of the world you lose five games awesome you lose five games at bunch of tonight you're going to hear about it and there's GonNa be media about these different spotlight. Let just won't fatty how to get that done. You know I'm really H- He. He's in views. He talks about no excuses. No Lot don't you. Just don't Z.. Any Declaration or attitude or spirit or mentality who in certain games even a home with your own funds watching on those huge crowd by still. You want to see a little bit roller sleeves. I've forgo- lab glove on some of these places. I wanted to mention that because I was really disappointed with born with and if they I'll be born board of that team might seem if it was born with and the and the F they put up against of course a great sign and Liverpool. Let me tell you team Yukon Count that's it for one minutes against Aston Villa Game the end to end less just going from strength to strength Damn Volley two more goals all sixty now For Him Sixteen Games. I mean ridiculous numbers. I mean. He's ninety three years of age. You Look Twenty three at the stall of his career elsewhere Madison T- Lemons in. Dd You just keep naming the players who you continue to in performances and get better under the money and doubts about left of this city. This is the white players. Yeah both arrested. Yeah interesting in that spot. James Madison some push for the number. I midfield player to a wide player. They'll come very now. Look like a diamond at times but I still think it was a four three three on can achieve in show bill the scored and assisted in the game. What again what? A bonus for the manager the puts it's pressure on the Perez and Harvey Bonds that actually there are other ways by the way that we comply clever money by the way here not always been so at at the rains came on midway scored go great goalie so the scenes gets him in the team schools and assists all of a sudden different player. The play we show on. I'm on city that Luke confident could play with body. Happy to be in the team now probably understands will be now means and going to give out a little bit axe to stay in that. Ah nothing but good good. I midfield again good news James Madison. Stop Midfield Brilliant. move out of their here. Dennis Pratt Dennis. Pratt is is a versatile useful handy energetic. Good pro midfield platz added into that mix with your itunes and Wilfred Indeed News Berlin the twenty one years of age So there's no trouble from midfield well a little bit because it's not as good as Madison but the fact that some flexibility there is great My overriding thought the end of this game aim was in the eighteen. Th Minute Rubio. I'm watching Lester. who a full one up? Yeah Flying Flying Filler. Like flying trying to get more than everybody wants to get involved. There's an energy an attacking Focus the there isn't much of that I mean they they really good players but they wanna go for they they want to. They want to penetrate and of course a conference is flowing out with their veins right now and tell you what I salute new energy this football. Oh club beyond what was happening with the title. The title thing was different in that the great moments. Not but this did this feels a different energy rope. Junggar it's prior is half vasant before they say when they in countless different so differently and again when when we watch teams doing well. I'm immediately thinking why an often comes down to these two things that the riot club. Recruitment in a manager Wolves good recruitment. Good Manager Smart Manager. And you're in business. I think less structure enables those things will be another key Other clubs big clubs. You mentioned today that this structure the blind trust West Tom. What food do they have the vision? Do they have the the plan do they. Do they have the the connection with decision making. That's what worries you. Are they any threat to raise yeses presents. Yeah yes it's the end sank. Eight point zero eight points and they play acting boxing day they play. Maybe isn't a lot on this twenty two games. I'm not sure if mindset you beyond the title race we're not talking last because well we should do because they want to in two thousand fifteen sixteen but we kinda anything no expectation. Brennan's come in. They'll do okay. What position depaw boys? We got transplanted though in expects us to do it. We're loving off football. The managers buzzing the fans are buzzing a Jamie Vardi was. He turned thirty three in January to score a goal all the game with the youth behind it is just good again is just an amazing story and tell you we in March when February march April turn comes around and Liverpool of difficult to games in the Champions League unless there haven't they go no European football. They can fire up for every single game if that gap if we have the same gap up now into February then lesser right in Liverpool. No we've credited the rotation this players. They have got to do it. Because if they don't do it lasts a city Waymo Going for the Premier League if we do have a race in a city. They're fully now unless unless they say he wouldn't rule them out of the Games really must I'm going to quickly get too big day for be dunk at. Ah In goodson fault. I mean you cannot script. Could you soon you're primarily. Serves all these big. Don't get that's the job on an interim intimate basis on the Friday guess one day's training hostage team nearly kickoff against Chelsea Good Chelsea team that the flying young play schooling goals. And you're thinking we've seen a shambles really from from averaging recently guppy five two in the Doggie and you're thinking well the one thing we know we don't Camille get spirit going bill. It could go. It could get ugly yeah. I don't think we expected this. We we know we know what about this guy leading in many. We got the scars. I mean he's the most frightening football. I've play I disagree with that. I as a just a quick story on that when we played them manager Bryan Robson used to say to a central defenders. Does don't get him angry. Don't get angry. And some ways. Lame winsome bulls who flick-ons because I've experienced. I'm sure you have as well when he's angry vic McDonnell. When he was angry it would growl? He growled on the field and IGLS long noodling around huge guy. Big Al Bose was was a scary character and he was scary at in the game. And Stalinist me the difference. He's been assistant manager. He's been banned. Yeah and he's super. Calm the mini. He Sanjak you on his interviews. He was a play again one. It became all those traits came out from the plane. Days the aggressive running running down. I still still shut down the line right. Yeah he'll he'll watch that and he'll be one of them buddy. He won't even realize what he did. Running Down Hogen ballboys kissing people and the the biggest thing about it was Everton. Went back to four four two very very basic from football simple instruction played with some spirit and sometimes the simple things of the best things in football that there was a stat wasn't wasn't there chuckles. Made more most have been made in. LemMe Lemme league in the last decade. Italian don't underestimate that effort that determination that energy it was very simple. Would back wide cross into the box. Remarkable going forward rob. I'll tell you what's GonNa Happen. Everton gotTA ride this ride. It they they go to they go to ride this enthusiasm. This encouragement this spirit energy. They got to ride it for as long as it goes. I mean keep him there as long as as long as yes yes might be two games rob. It might be one game three games. Four Games Games and two season possible keep it and then that might change your options question. Sto- If if don't can does or doesn't get the job knots maybe a debate for another job walk full-time or just yeah. I'm just saying if whoever gets is this job will come in with an idea or not part of what they should be able to fall back on is what don't Kimbro. You don't got wasn't training ground. You've you've got Tom on the training ground. That wasn't that was basics that will send you talk about things you can get every week from plays you can get feel woke up closing down any welby you can get secrets in Doon Doon. The access of as well you can get Charleston community. You can get all those things as well Kelly's ability as well as system as well as well as all the other things that make great teams. You can get that. I never sue that on the Marco Silva and he's eighteen months of the full book. Let's say it's a really good point. It's an interesting point because certain clubs certain. Dna We know that evidence DNA. When I watched that game and I'm thinking back to some of the best days in the David Moyes I think it of how it Kendall Everton? Football Club need that correct. They who they are and you made it you. You make a good point with the next manager. That's US now. You can't expect them to do that every week. Now it's exhausting. It's always going to work. But if I is the base level level the foundation the the that you're GONNA go back to in difficult times you're going to be okay an even under Ronald Koeman and Roberto Martinez Marco Silva they not the style makeup. That's been gone from this football club for a long time. And when you say it like that I know there's only one game but didn't they love her didn't they lap it. Ah Ah Goodison and that shows our listeners. How hard it was to go? Oh that's good of energy so brilliant. Burning Story Edison funds by the way. I'm so pleased for them. Because it must be so difficult over recent the seasons and and keep it encouraged and thinking that the clubs in the right direction of course big decision to be made for the next manager permanent manager but it nice to see overtime back and and just finally all now. Just move on part of the new manager. Hopton can Ferguson on the bench with me. I think he's going to grow as a coach and one day. We would the money for every now and then. I'll tell John can touch that what you did before going. Let them know about Because that's important and the new manager might not be able to to to uh-huh invigorate in the same way don't can can you say that you know when he's sitting sometimes and maybe not feeling feels. It's not part of is really to to to bring up Donald. Let me tell you up. And we saw the result event. Absolutely come talk about Tottenham Hotspur clean this other business. The Business Chelsea football club. Oh I don't WanNa go on about a lot We've given a lot of credit Chelsea and it's no doubt a super exciting situation right now now with a manager that looks a million dollars. Young players of being stunningly great and the half team is fully young players. But I think it would be poor of us to brush over this. He looked as angry as I. Recently lumpar Franklin part as putting Chelsea teams Una Josie another as strong as anything that mentally tough physically tough that run hard that sacco and I think he what he looks at it from the side on. I think he's thinking you know what I know. We can play a little bit and we got show more show more of the other side. I don't want it to sound to be too harsh but this young Chelsea side has got a grocer mentality is GonNa grow some steel lovely. A lovely ethic lovely stone philosophy right now but to win permanent tight was Franklin pod knows what it takes and I think what he would say what it takes a guarantees set to those players a halftime at the end of the game. We call be stronger. We can't defend get brushed off by Calvin few times. I got to be tougher. You Got Tuffy Antenna Ruediger. It's going to be enough for me as soon as he's fit and healthy. He's GONNA backs. I think he would disappointed him. The the the his Chelsea the envisions in the future is tougher than well. The the Chelsea that he's got at the moment if shown on good football days they can they commu March or Joseph menas teams used to do was. What did you see? What did you find today football? We'll play football. You WanNa scrap scrap with you. They could do both sides of things. Nothing nothing Troy Deeney when you go to grow a pair of yeah all that dot. That's who I am not saying that this team is built to find out but there's got that'd be discovered tougher times some games like that another teams like a frank knew that was coming and he warned his players rob and they still didn't react to that but in some uh-huh ways rob. This is part of the learning and this is Paul. Frank can keep going back to and say win win a good as we think scrape for coach from nine to have a couple of things that you can pull. They'll they'll be looking at video this week. They'll be training hard this week on. The Champions League is leaving both that they'll be making sure that he got things right because as you said francs face from first to ninety Christine. Brinkley wa I wouldn't WanNa go inside the on. Yeah I mean then city apart they are very different and very special way. They've done it There's not Mike Remember. The is not a big chunk of steel in the team to win a permanent tile. Muncie different the incredible. What they've done but no the Remember don't win with a little bit of that as well line because of the chance to ban just now the ban in a can you go and buy this deal is that something could add to this mix that would make them. Yeah they could go to county. Is that player. Yeah but he's he's not big. Physical Ezekiel is on physical. I mean the left is position that they might try to update Ruta Ruta gats deal But I'm sure compile will tread very carefully in terms of adding to the squawk because it's it's a lovely little vibe. I should imagine now. The club at the moment But it's nice to have that AETNA's our money money Roberts putting a hold a little bit and they can update when he wants and sees fit with of course approval from other people in the club To make this team even better let's let's get him on short-term now in this special because it was a special one goal in in in this game human son mobile runs the length of the pitch any ninety yards I think he was in Lebanon. Seven point six seconds plus eight or nine players to school. One of the goals of the season Five five million for spurs cleaned. I clean sheet for Josie. You knew the be a reaction after that loss l. and there was individual plays continuing to do so soco getting a goal song getting a goal. Hurry getting a couple just a feeling and outlook around a football club a bit the east all in to build something. Yeah they took a hit. Didn't they took ahead an old trafford Before that been great I want him to play angry three and I. I think it's a really important fascinating part of his time. Spurs is to get them a little tough. We talked about Kellyanne Similar sort of idea that spurs in certain games they they. They wonder a little bit too easily and he wants to be not sad angry. Yes game a good analogy. As if there's one thing he can bring rob he can bring a little bit women Tallahassee to this spur squad the talent there but happened a little bit softer time so little bit softer Old Trafford Dingo crazy about insurers inform them and you get a reaction against the tough physical team in Bernie five nil. Some brilliant goal Shuman sons go to score from from the edge of his own box. The other end I knock it in and then look like he's not even breathing. But uh-huh from Josie on gold say great goals from Harry came but Some of the goal was something special. Go ahead scenario Sahibzada you know gets the wall behind me. FELINES causing amazing. All in our favorite meal will the hardcore fans just behind. We'd mum and that in the stands. Sometimes you find yeah. He's he's talking. They're all busy about the Brazilian. Ronaldo the original you could do in some of those dribbles and those runs. It was a stunning stunning goal. Is He is he. Developed developed into one of the best players in the premier league. Yes easy easy answer. I don't know why the seems to be that this this thaw on. He's he's just anesthetic and communal in you know. He's a bundle of energy bill. He's CO quality. Well if you go back to tape left-foot rightful full central most positions on under a central striker. Does he work when he needs to assist him when asked to chase. A full body is trustworthy. I would-i the wide place. I mean the thing you might ask is. Is it going to be enough goals with a y you'll bake Point in the moment why plays have got delivered. He gets his numbers goals in this. Yeah and It's going to be a drain for Joe Media with Sims of an all all around player on hospital. I'm just trying to think of the best play that in terms of all round footballer and Human Son in the form is in right now. What we've seen in terms of potential with other plays there? I could make a strong argument that he's the best all around Footballer at Spurs now all is right now right now I want okay finishing second to none Denny's and gratefulness wild. All round the can do a little bit of everything. I think sons the best. I'm not gonNA argue. Bring you expecting an argument. Well that's jumper on the leak. exposal five Britain great to watch the into the season. How taught him do? I would think they'd funds chances of finishing top four we will see but just around the League Rob You'll mike was nine foot. Didn't take control of this game. I was in late. But he just decides Sale Satellite Hayden. Eighty mullings take the the the rains. I just thought that was a little bit strange to me. Why would they think not that? I just didn't know why wouldn't you wouldn't. What did you have any time to? What the TAME? Same as Friday Friday. I don't know maybe I don't know just feel a little bit strange. Listen he's probably he's reading. Holy maybe even wanting to upstairs I've a look at it and before he goes down amount. I like it the more about it when you think about what he did to city Seven from winds last nine to get safe. Let's say Christmas Wofford may be so he's been course insistence before and came out on top so I like it. I mean he's unpredictable. A certainly the title is GonNa shake the room. No it was against Crystal Palace Fan. What for desperate for a victory for win yeah absolutely needs needs some points? Knowledge won't won't Sheffield Ninety two nine he's got into the game but Sheffi and I came about W- two goals and Chris Wildest team to defeat against Newcastle. Get themselves Victory that He was pulling up about. Yeah absolutely I and an uk-us united from one nil down at home send James Against Southampton a six point you turn around with two and fix Jonjo goes goals Polo three in three for the the cap brilliant. I mean this is. It's becoming a story. Oy Steve Bruce Story I mean the Newcastle Fans Love Ryan Benitez Tenth. The table right now plaza scoring goals. And you know Steve Bruce his stock by the way with the locals. There is going to go. Because he's he's always a little bit success then in and they'll get behind you. So well Steve Bruce because he's not a little bit difficult time when he first got the full criticism about the Sony me yes. I wasn't sure about whether this was a guy to motivate over to organize team to to to stay in their permanent right. Now is one of many stories in the league this really surprising and how the doing and then great we. Ah If we can have full blind to Woolsey which is great game. Certainly in the I often got full. Gold's up two teams who WANNA play the right way to get on. The ball to money manages the planet vision. Away of doing GRANDPA are continued to be Excited by what he could do it this Brian Team and Nuno Spurs. It's a Santo just won't allow excuses gets through in Europe keeping his team and top off the pitch. He probably disappointed when the guy is a great game and two bright young coaches the the new raft of coaches in the premonition Ravi. No some of the older ones gone. Tony Dicillo blue in a different way. Roundabout mid four is both of them The style of play is great. You know for a team now. A So called small a team in this league The star is different to what it used to be. Robbed is not so much grinding and getting behind the ball and play sold on the counter attack. I just like well both manages it. Doing two two was a great game. It was a fast line on again Brian. Surprise me I guess. I didn't really know until I saw a little bit of grain potter. But they're doing it differently. Funds is going to enjoy. It is very different to Christians Brian. The team is evolving the clubs evolving. He's on a mega contract. So all Brian Okay. This special time Today the underappreciated performance of the week lobby must do and I'm going to go for mine. Who He and his wits three days win against and Spurs and a win against Manchester City? Other going to social shove bobby most always been under some pressure. Talk this you know in most weeks about who's GonNa get his is Joe Paterno joked about coming back into you. Many thinking that not might be a place where he goes. I just think in a week when he ease ease up some criticism. Install it with the two to Joe Against Villa and people were already talking about. Is he the right man but about wins for the first time. This season tactically went against against Josie impact and came out on top. I think he deserves a bit of credit. All eagerness also very good common disagree without my plan As a player that has been under appreciated at different clubs. He was at Manchester United and did okay but they got rid of him. Here's at West Brom wasn't stellar. But he's come to Leicester City and he's proven proven. What a good player is Joni Evans? Rubio centreback quietly spoken. Johnny is a good player in all aspects of being a centre by his goal today. the winner Villa Park for one was involved a lovely had. I gets up early. Loops it into the fall top corner Johnny Evans unappreciated not with Robbie. mustoe a non this much day day while Don him absolutely well Joni Evans and only gonNA social to under appreciated performances of the week. I think it's time for us this week on the weekend when when the Manchester Dhabi help them but not just upheld Liverpool to that based primarily tile lookout this week on mid week for a Euro Party on Tuesday day when we'll loop bucket important notch Chelsea and Liverpool both have work to do. And we'll also recap tomatoes match west time the All snow when both teams teams need all three points. 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"Hello there they are dreaming of back to Bucharest and Budapest and all those cities at the beginning of the euro. Twenty twenty qualifies continuing Adrian Haley Shankar Stevie Nickel on board loss to get into to stop with Portugal Groupie and not so much the victory. Because that was almost a formality six-nil fresh Lithuania. Still actually. She would have qualification. One last task for them and that will be to beat Luxembourg away from home on Sunday to join Ukraine but the game a notable for another Cristiano Ronaldo Tricks Jewett ropes and also joins US stewart cold. The game slip prelude to this. Was All the fuss over Ronaldo's knee and Thoai Mosey fit Maurizio. Sorry the Atlantis manager holding them off an old reaction to that did he look fit to you today. Look it yes. I thought and we came from the Portuguese camp. The everything was fine with him. He had no injury problems and he played well. He scored a hat trick. He he's involved in most of the things. He had a good game and he was taken after eighty five minutes to a standing ovation but he went past people with the boy. Got Lots of shots. Any looked dangerous in the air. Aided everything you expect Cristiano Renaldo to do. But that hasn't been the case in the last few games where he's been off the pace when booze of come into soon. He's lost possession when he tried to go. Passive with the ball is lost position again. He hasn't looked quite such a threat. The crowd of started to get onto him so it looks like he's lost a bit of confidence and I I wouldn't say look at one hundred percent fit when he's playing for your venter's but that wasn't the case tonight. What do you make of this? Because he has stewart looked looked very ordinary as an F.. Aventis it just yeah. I'm still going to stick by Wa- thinking I think he's definitely counting something you know he can. He can go and play against team late. Let the win. Because because it is said level balloons Lithuania Lithuanians. And you you as a player you you do play with and they goofed the guy late in the game against an ACM Alawite's taken off because for me hundred percent he'd been loo right. He can tell me play games and it was cleanup G.. He said Hans left wing. So it's not physically problem but he's why he doesn't on those as not being the second goal is scored which scored anybody regardless of who. The opponent was really was that special but that being said this. Make an awful lot of sense to me because as well as he performed against the Weiner he has struggled for for you. It does and you wanted to stop you sympathize with position that salaries in Antigua him off. I still don't think that salaries you mine. Who can somehow humble Cristiano Renaldo and and get him to realize that time is catching up with him? I still Nado says he fees he's ready to play he'll be told whether it's for Renzo off reports so as Murcia salary wrong. No I knew. I don't think he's wrong. I think as as a Manga ut if salaries but he won't be carrying something and we could get into all kinds of conspiracy theories around that but the faculty really matters. He's been underperforming for you. This been obstinately right judge in performance to take him off. I just don't think that Cristiano Renaldo takes that very well. I think that he is still of the status. That if he says I'm playing or I'm starting regardless of whether you're Physi- zoos and medical team says you've got a cough stream or whatever. Whatever it is he plays? This could be interested in you. Know both of them by the looks of a dig in their heels and Christiano probably would and we wondered well who who who wants his salary Goni banned the fight he he keeps a medical report. Every time somebody asks some of them tells you that he's not moving. He's he's dogged rate and the sun but assist. Could this could be a turning point probably best thing the easiest path Asari as I play Malebo longer. Let the fans get on his back a little bit more and it makes at least it makes his decision in terms of justifies it. Because I don't think ever average of fiber Cristiano Renaldo but at least you justify funds. Yes chew it is merger. Sorry digging himself a bit of a whole hair. We seem to be suggesting because whenever he has taken we're now off he said it's because he's been hurt no what he should say to Cristiano Renaldo. I think all you fully if Cristiano Renaldo says yes I'm fully for. He says well all you need to play better than because now you're going to be judged as a player and in the last three or four games you've been at least effective front play. That's why I've taken you not because you're in I've taken and you haven't played well enough if you'll send me your fit you have to perform if you're not. I won't start with you and we'll get you make sure when you come back in two or three weeks time. Your best splash once again. But he's got to mike sure if Cristiano Renaldo is out there and says he's fully fit he has to put in a good display. That hasn't been the case in the last three or four weeks. While the Patrick Four seven to well goes ninety eight inch These remarkable goalscoring rankled since the age of thirty. It's it's almost increased twofold. Listen it seven tricks since he turned thirty like a fine wine getting better and better. He's now just eleven goals behind the old time. goalscoring record from Ali die out doing Portugal England and their one thousand th game. Stevie Seventy against Montenegro Montenegro Put up a fight. The Net Raheem Sterling and Joe Gomez along to you sealed qualification for euro. Two thousand eight hundred eighty eight needed a point to achieve talking Stellian Gomez Stevie. I'm sure you noticed the boobs around Wembley Stadium when Joe Gomez came off the bench and General Funds Funds. Always think so you've got them sauteed and then all of a sudden comes from the blue you know every single thing that's being reported the aggression Hana percent came from sterling and Gomez went way to try and help Staling as far as we get and plan and being with a group And then the fans Tom Jones Boone Gomez I mean I'm sure you're GONNA ask me figure this one of cod because that is just it's just say don't yeah at as an Englishman. What do you make it well? Yeah I think Steve is absolutely right. And it's not being the first time the England supporters have gone on the back of a player. Remember for probably five or six games Ashley. Cole was one of the most young booed every time he touched the ball yet. He won them back over. He was ED ended up being one of the world's best left but England fans about the times with this like something plays people. Even David Beckham was one that they started booing at one point and then they liked him again so go win the fans back out of these done so much wrong but he's GonNa win the funds back over by good performances when he does come as done anything wrong is noory. Hasn't I'll be honest. We're talking before we came on these kinds of moments of all Happen more often than I think people can look at it from the outside recognize and I was players. You know to deal with them and you knew you accept it and I move on some how I don't understand how that translates into doing Jubal mess that is simply beyond me and as much as the the players have fallen out of favour with respective families and one their move to fight with your fan base for this based on nothing. You did wrong off-the-field nothing you did wrong on it and all of a sudden you have to win them back over for just it's totally. Take away from the this is GonNa blow over eventually quickly arrived this whole you forgotten about talking a AH take away for the game itself obeyed zero. The qualified shot move Eglin of Qualified Oscar. Shaw House I can't believe in a group containing the might walk munching negative Bulgaria and call civil and even the Czech Republic at the Monte Goof. Uh Well done England one important statistic does own goals of now overtaking Wayne. Rooney's as the top scorer. Old Time for care goes now have fifty four. Four goals is played for longer one thousand that game breath the qualified teams group. H Say has it's two of the qualified teams France and Turkey both booking. Actually they both qualified after the nil. Nil Draw Instanbul Iceland miss out. France continues Moldova by two goals to one these The list of teams now fully qualified star. That they would six. And it's gone up to and the Czech Republic also booking vast sponsor they. Yeah well you know He's the question. We chose according five euros bill. By the way I may remain field affiliate could yet contain Scott. Thank you seem sterling. Quick to react to the England fans booing Joe Gomez is at Wembley saying I wanted to leave things as it was but tonight I have to speak again. It was off of me to see my teammate. Get booed for something that was my fault. Joe Hasn't done anything. Nothing wrong of me to see someone who keeps his head down and work hard especially after a difficult week for him to be booed when he came on tonight was wrong. I've I take full responsibility and accepted the consequence. I felt as though I had to say this. Get home safe. Everyone that sterling in the aftermath of England says seven nil euro-qualifying era qualifying victory against Montenegro on the subject of England. Dale Johnson on big. Call him today at. ESPN AFC DOT COM at. `Bout von on the Premier League we get the big meeting and it was a big meeting that took place in central London all primarily teams upon it head official Mike Riley in the eye of the storms dorms to it saying yes. They can improve communication in the stadium. Fans know that. Not GonNa make the referees. Go over to those pitch aside monitors. What do you make of that when he's absolutely wrong because every other league the artwork on they've done exactly and it's a better thing for via works better with an MLS leaguer in the Bundesliga? Sarah it works much better than in England and the one reason why so poorly in England is because the referees. Don't going look at the moment. It doesn't take any more time and everybody in the ground could see. The referee is now going to try and make his own decision to look at that monitor when he stands there in middleweights and waits aches and whites for somebody. And he's here to tell him something doesn't work. And for that reason the arrogance of Mike Riley in the premier league about this Mike Riley needs to go because we're in a profession. Shen where if you don't do your job. Will you get the sack. If you're a plan you get dropped from the team if you not playing well. If you're a manager you lose games you get set now. He's in a position referees. Referees get dropped from From doing games if they make too many mistakes Mike Riley as my mistake after mistake of optimus is in charge of the referees is got it completely wrong and he has to go. Do you agree boys. Don't for this. Seems very much may rarely digging Hilden and his his ego is getting in the way of this. You know if if he thought initially that it would save time because pretty much from what they're telling us. That was the reason reason. The referee wasn't going to go to the Monitor. That's nonsense and one shoe. Figure that one. Oh then you make the chain and it takes a bigger man to the accept being wrong about something clearly may really not the big his my. Here's my issue or challenge with all of this firstly everything that's assist says. It's absolutely correct as I keep mentioning I was in the initial meetings about how vow was to be used on. Your show was ruled out the protocols employed during workup. Look up twenty eighteen hallway including referees to preside monetize the importance of it and I stand by that but as I've been seeing over recent weeks time time and time again every time I hear the PG or anybody from the from the premium league speaker on issues or the corrections it's always been about the league and the fans and and I that is put in the forty Horse Var is there to have the referee's Goto the referees them what they need developed protocols in conjunction with the referees instead of trying to figure out how so you can make var part of a better fan experience as a result. What you do not happening referees did not give him the the tools they want and games are being referee poorly and that is what the fans want found? Just what well REF redeems. And you're not giving it to them. Frank Leboeuf is also with us. Frank watching what do you make of this. It's been suggested that it's the pace and the tempo the primarily that's preventing this from happening. I well I think I think it's a mistake. I agree with all the guys you know. I think Mike Riley is wrong because we need to see the referee if they come decide. What's what's going to happen to the last call? It's also taking out the responsibility of the referee shouder to not asking him to them to check in the last call something happen and seeing the Monitor on the side of the pitch I whoa I could see that all the time in the League one. Of course he's taking a little bit more time but he's it's only fair to the game and only fair to what you want to achieve. You've we divorced so I think it's wrong for the English referees to be able to check and give their their coal and also because the on on the field because they feel the game the people on outside of the stadium don't feel the same way the game and they can. They don't talk to with the players they don't see how it goes to go. The games goes and maybe the give the wrong decision because they don't feel what's going to happen what he's operating on on the field MHM zero uses of video on so far for one hundred twenty game just a reminder of how the primarily get stands up to twelve games hitting into the international break livable. Eleven points clear. Let's focus on also because they have Mr Robson onboard they can contractually obliged with eight eight points points behind Manchester City outside of the Fort Stewart. emery getting the dreaded vote of confidence for the hostile hierarchy. Now do you assess his position right. Now he's in danger. Without doubt he went to Leicester with at least he went with a game plan but it was a flawed game plan. He went with the defensive game plan where he wanted them to the but when they won possession what they were going to do then so I think he's a man under pressure is all the time he's bringing their we haven't really seen patent play. Suddenly in the last two games. He goes with the back three probably against these wishes but he knows he hasn't got a good sense of so he's tried to go with three. It didn't look as I knew how it's a play the system. That's why he's a man in trouble. He doesn't quite know which way to turn the moment at some point I think the board will end these misery. So that suggests you think he's the right man for the job in north London Stewart. Well I know Steve Nicol would agree with me but you look at the difference between Leicester and Brendan Roaches and asks. Snow Brendan Rogge's as done a brilliant job at Leicester Amri hasn't done too much. At least at the moment why why would you. They didn't like you didn't like Britain. Livable nothing to do with the flit. This is my problem with Brendan. Rojas was the claptrap that it came out without the game to go the way they played. Goldmine claptrap lops drop. No one's guilty of contract around these extra time. Plenty of claptrap available there every day. I see your questions. That's available on the EUGENIC. Hey I'm andy if you don't know me it's probably because I'm not famous but I did start a men's grooming company called Harry's the idea for Harry's came out of a frustrating experience I had buying razor blades. It's most brands were overpriced over designed and out of touch. At Harry's our approach is simple. Here's our secret. We make sharp durable blades and sell them. 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In the orange of the Dutch as well six assists last seven. However being linked Frank Leboeuf very strongly with a move to Spurs burs East Twenty Five? He was a bit of a flop with Manchester United. Could he do the business. In the Premier League for Tottenham Frankly yeah I doubt about it. I mean there's a there's a talent for sure and we can see that. Every time he played we with the national team is is very good. It shows all the strength but there's a lack of consistency with these player seen Seinfeld y'all pretended that it will be the one of the best player in the world that they wanted to play for another a bigger club than you that he deserved to be big club. But we didn't see that we didn't insist that we so sometimes good Games but overall that was I've been very disappointed with his performances again the as the talent but what we need is like Ronaldo like macy weaken. We cannot afford to make sure that you going to be good every game. AM YOU'RE GONNA play and he's not in that level will follow that keenly. Yeah meanwhile Franken Roman Danski was asked about the toughest opponent. He's ever the play against the he said this. There are plenty of good defenders but it has always been great to have jewels against Sergio Rama's he picked the Real Madrid. WJR and Spanish defender is the toughest defendant. He's ever played against owner frank. You'll reaction I. Well I agree I love Gerasimos I mean the guy is a warrior from the pass food that we used to know where of course of some stuff that he does not. Let's say legal into on the field. But e shows the real the character of a central defender that I don't really see in any other central defenders around the world and how many goals that is called the last minute for Spain. Career Madrid on top of doing his job at the back to save the club older national chief guys for me. The legend really loving. I love him. He's he's a player that I would have loved to play alongside a warrior from different. Look at all these trophies as you went along limit Birkin's in red galaxies. Go into your own. The guys are good defended. I'm never said that he's not a good defender. But when people shave world climb you have said he's not defending you have said he's not going to know they don't. I put more than remote. I'm GonNa tell you that he is. He has been a good defender. Yes but when I hear this class stuff I will go to. I always was tell you. What our class defenders don't have what record amounts of yellow and red cards? So don't tell me Worrell class. Yes he's a good defender. Yes he's a warrior Shalit's a warrior. And yes he's a legend goals for Real Madrid in the dystopic hundred percent legend. Don't don't tell me. He's a world-class defend no. I'm not taking Frank Not World Cologne Stephen Nicely I basically when you're the captain of the starship fighting if you let me what goes on so please please excuse me please I will. TV TV if you just lonely to explain. Yeah I'm GonNa tell you that I don't know but when you are the captain of the biggest lab in the world and you win so many trophies because of what you've done on the field. Not What your in your teammates on undefeated but what he did on the field. I think you deserve some credit. Where your champion of the World European champion? I mean you you did everything with was is Real Madrid you are capable of putting Saleh out of the of the field. We something completely programmed. We said Ed you you can kiss of the map. Yeah but if you raise Maveron that I know of the map of the best defenders because you are the light of the of every game you play alongside when it is almost place I don't see alongside if I mean that guy. I've been like more than a decade. Do Guy to be named the best defender in the world for me. It's name name Stevie. Name me very learned physically. Do Show me shoulder. Usually present guy for physically putting them again again. That's not world class football. That's all right if you want me to answer to that you know it's part of the football is one all of the football. You used to play Stevie. I'm sorry I used to play is is is is funded tactic and we all know that it's not a beauty of the game. It's even dirty dirty but you have to be when central defender. You have to out to be dirty when I see my wife is nothing. It doesn't ought to be done it. Because that's why he has a world record amount of yellow cards and the water would remake recommend array. Dad Sell spread cousin. CARDS NABA MINI RED cards. And you look you hard because you play in England legend. You were allowed to you. You got to do everything you want. Because you were a legend and you play in England. I was really a lot of time red card. You'll call in France or with the National Tim. Because I was rough and was in England we will have to leave it there. I had to get a check sports. I two red cards toll to talk show every day. The CONCACAF Nations League resumes on Friday. Night remember the United States Canada and Group. They lost to Canada in Toronto. A month ago now getting sent to play the return in Orlando ahead of that. US Sporting Director Ernie Stewart on Gregg. BERHALTER job saying we're looking at the future. So yeah when they evaluate Greg The coaching staff of what I've seen today I'm please. Man and individual result is not going to change that. I think that answers the question in itself. Let's bring in Taylor who's getting ready to call the game. Aim in Orlando Ernie. Stewart's saying there's not really any pressure on Gregg Berhalter in terms of this one of game tomorrow. Should there be absolutely and I can promise viewers at home. I'm not being held hostage. And Ernie Stewart's Hotel Room Hotel Room. I'm on my own. But the comet the comments are alarming to me because immediately right after the United States lost the candidate in Toronto. Didn't Gregg Berhalter write a letter to the supporter. Saying a win is the only the result that will suffer against enter in Orlando but then three days before that Game Ernie Stewart the general managers. Now coming out saying why I've seen enough progress whereas I did one results matter I. I'm not buying that whatsoever. Because quite honestly if the United States loses the ended up at home even if they they draw and ended up at home against Orlando that you can't tell me the rest of the world how they would react that the United States. You're going to sit there and say I've seen enough progress. Aggress progress has been made. I don't buy that quite honestly Gregg Berhalter does it. I sat with him at training today and he said listen. I understand what Ernie Stewart was trying under say but a win is a must. We need to get a result against Canada and asked to be reports. So that tells me if Gregg Berhalter doesn't win rushers on if not already once you've always saying should beholdest you'll be on the line for this one. Here's the thing we we all understand. That only shoe is going to stick up for his court. Geneva guy that he picked. But don't meet yourself look stupid by by doing that. You can see other. You can see it in a different from way. That doesn't meet you show stupid because Tom Round and see. I am pleased complete nonsense as I understand that Barrett whole Turkey especially given whole long it took in the hiring process to bring him on board and he's been in charge for that long. So you understand wanting to have a little bit a faith in your coach but whenever you talking about the tenure of a senior national team coach and the first thing you go to who is be thinking long term in the future and I'm happy about the development when you have under twenty three and under twenty twenty programs in place it it says to me that you're grabbing a choice and I'm with Steve here there better ways. You could have freeze that without making yourself. Look silly all man whose rain in this country is over the Kings Latin. This was how he exited. I came I saw icon coach. Thank you L.. A. Galaxy for making me feel alive alive again to the galaxy. Fancy wanted Latin. I gave us lantern. You're welcome the story continues. Now go back to watching baseball. All these Latin Taylor sign off like that how we tell it to judges two years and mls well. I definitely thought it was improperly placed within that Bank of California stadium in that picture that blog hosted I found it interesting Adrian Stevie and Chaka that when you says Z.. Conquered major league soccer. I hit it is scored fifty goals in two years. Simply did your job. You won only one playoff game and everywheres lot win win. Talk Time and time again about being a winner in doing that. I just look at lunchtime on the field very few. If anyone thought he he would score twenty plus back bat seasons let alone fifty two and yet they really struggled doe while I look at it and say I think the galaxy are going to be better off in the sense that they're going to have player up front. That's going to be a little bit. More mobile is going to defend. The truth of the matter is a pressure still on the galaxy. Let's see to fill that void. How're you GONNA fill the void of fifty goals for me Adrian to answer? Your question is up there with David Beckham if not higher than David Beckham on bringing awareness to the league and what I mean by that is this person personality transcended sport. It got on mytalk shows that nobody major league soccer talkers. History had ever got there and I'll argue with anyone. He did more for the sport. David Beckham and a short term. And I know a lot of people internally. MLS has offices even the galaxy would almost re with that statement because he transcended not only sports but into pop culture. You you tell me how many MLS athlete. And I'm less players or coaches have done that in the past. It's zero if not one already. Lots of talk about who the galaxy you may turn to to fill Arava Lodge void. Well how Edison Cavani. He's been linked with a move to the galaxy when you look at his stats over the Gosh ten years. He's still only thirty. Two the Uruguay only six appearances in two goals this season of course but he has school school double digit goals. For as long as you can remember both in legal and and in Syria any reason to think he wouldn't do exactly what was attended Mall Mall. No listen either. It doesn't have the personality off the field. Lots on hard but Rano fifty two. He has the ability. Lati- GIMME number. How many goals would he school giving givens Latin goat? Whatever wherever you did? twenty-seven guys going fairly goals Collinsville set a record thirty four could he could he come in and challenge records steady. Two years of age is still a striker wall of football. That you talk about these strike Wolf football it could play in most teams. So He's getting felt he goes to seize and no danger. I'm I'm not absolutely suit in that. He gets as high as a TV does no question that Cavani is an incredible talent but I think more reliance servers than's Latin. I don't think he it kind of creates on your show Ebrahim do and as a result and looking at the galaxy and you wonder where that services is gonNA come from. I'm going to go twenty Tayla give me a number on Cavani while more important I think Cavani was scoring twenty goal but he asked from Miami. Yes for thirty million nets to come to Miami. So I'm not totally sure that's going to happen and I keep an eye on Luis Suarez. I think Suarez could be employed with the galaxy. I think they're gonNA make a run at them. They're gonNA throw out feelers but Suarez's keep in mind did did the deal for Nicholas Liberal to end up in Seattle. So I think Suarez does come to major league. Soccer is GonNa WanNa play with Nicholas Ladera. So how does that dynamic work. And I've got to bring up the name again. Teacher Reto This is the kind of move if you've got Carlos Villa at l.. AFC and you want to make a splash. A A bigger splash. I keep teacher Rita. They'd have to trade Chicago fire for the rights are not getting into that either here nor there but I keep an eye on those names I think the galaxy are going to try to make a splash with a little bit younger player than they did was locked on. Well we'll go score who is coming back to. MLS molest Taylor announced as the new Montreal Impact Manager Member Assistant Coach Roberto Martinez and Belgium in that brief fit. Three and a half months spell with Monaco is last. Coaching assignment came in October of twenty eighteen. But four years we saw him toilet through Much of that time with the rebels. What do you make of this? We did question is sort of character when it came to be coached and we well and it was a complete debacle at Monaco. I think that's fair to say in Stevie knows this better than anyone on this show that you're coaching and managing it's it's a crap you've got to understand it you've got to learn it so it's GonNa be interesting to see what Tyrian relearned from that three and a half months struggle at on Akot what's surprising to me though. Oh eight is it. Is that you release the news at eight. AM on twitter instagram. And even you tweet it out for Montrose. But did even tweet. He was going to be they just I just said welcome teary on. I just a little surprised at how this unfolded. I think a large part of it is that some of us were reaching out to Montreal hearing rumblings that this may be in play just a loose apprising Thursday morning eight. Am Eastern time you like. Hey by the way we do a lot well certainly increase the attention on the impact. That's Taylor thanks for being with US looking forward to your call tomorrow night. 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Shoob channel meanwhile one last older business for the day based his law take it away and you'll power rankings. Oh city dormant Lenses sit here I got Sir and you're looking for the cooperative or something was was dead easy. Ill beat meet. Go being what it's brutal Real Madrid. Nine bossard idea but they wouldn't be looking good on the frank yet. This is some raccoons not an argument argument from the gallery. Like no problems with six through ten. That's a hey sorry go back over there. They are six right. The five complaints about I asked last week but again you got a point. This time for the visit getaway in Brazil. Six weeks ago some threes for drawn yes domestically living the baby s teams second three yet even with eighty five percent. Renaldo event is up there and comeback. Well number one Gladys Eagle one should be level bowl boss or try to you. You definitely got another time. Everybody tried to do their five. I got I gotta get. Ah Today was actually a third. You say anything the only thing you need to get rid you said today was first because frank has never been party to a shank power rankings. Row Frank K disil- reactions the first time you've witnessed this now. That in fact is the second time the the first one was appalling. An active checkout. I'm so happy that finally watches football games so you can agree with bio ranking. Well I don't know for Fleming Girls Oriented and follow the championship but otherwise I'm quite happy with the with the rank and I agree with Mr Sheka Islam from Trinidad into legal dog. Do you agree. I would agree with most the only thing I would say is. He's oversee not senior. Ventas play in the last few weeks. He's just sitting. There is out there. They're a good side may not playing very well at the moment and they're not very good so watch Saris got one or two problems by cannot be in second place missiles can I keep reading here would never happy. We always chase a result right right. That's right we always say that g glad I tell them being the heady heights and number three in Shankar's rankings since since the one thousand nine hundred and was returning with extra time extra time read all about it. I got your questions questions in front of me. He got stevie in check as up Frankly both ropes and also on board lots of discussions points out Adam on CR CR sevens decline. But he's clearly still a complete goalscorer when it comes to playing country. Don't you think that Maria salaries football is in the decline Robertson Cristiano Renaldo. Don't you think I mean you can't compare the two. I think I think the football salaries teams played enough Alie Chelsea. Venice have got nowhere close to La. I think you can definitely see the seven hundred percent. Yeah as a penalty both better to know Of of the highest all. The thing is as much as we see. Submits is in decline on whether or not see not just yet. We're leaving in Mexico will at some point. You trouble is those two are just so much better than everybody else. But even when they're in the decline you compare them to their former muscles. Yeah sure about the everybody else. Robo point though is salaries football in declining with sparkling at Napoli. Then it back yes yes sorry was good at Napoli play some great football he G- Wayne they got the best out Higuera and the way they play in senior mertens. No sort of at the moment. Christiane shadows not planning is best up until probably six weeks ago. I thought he was a better player for events and he wasn't these last couple of years round Madrid. He's just going off the ball with. That's an injury. The loss of foam does anything to do with sorry at the moment. Each just lost these when he may have a slight injury. He'll come back if he gets himself fully fit and gets his confidence back up. If still be a great platter. The event has come the end of the season rob addressed to you from Quantico shoe England's removal of Sterling seems pretty pointless. Was this them looking at the situation saying they didn't need him now. I think he has to make a stand Gareth. Southgate has got clear ideas how he wants to run these two disciplines players and he knows he's going to play in the next game against Kosovo and he left him out as a sort of a telling him off slightly. And that's the way it's GonNa be and it's all down dusted and sterling will be a key man for England. Come the European Championships. Now I have to say this guy cells get here and how he handled it so it has been a big defender Brahim stealing and be part of a big support of him in Sydney's his tons performances and something needs to be said than done. Did that Brahim stealing seems have tweeted onboard in in the right way Ta just had me. Maybe it was a good opportunity to do that. If it was right before nope final maybe might not be the same decision but you sending message and I think it was received. Well you boys said it yesterday. Didn't you and Craig if they thank Germany. Germany said the semi fellow World Cup. There's a chance the he doesn't play. It was then easy decision. Somebody thinks right. Listen if it does some good then fair enough. I don't think you make any efforts to selling voiceover Stewart Yo. You're hogging the questions. William wants to know your Premier League player of the season so far what you could go with Mono- you could go with white bodies being planned. I'm going to go with apply. Apply it from the top side which is the moment and apply that links everything up. He's not flashy flat was done everything for Liverpool pride in holding midfield row. He's protected into these two centre-half's he switched the plots of the fullback. So they can get Ford is going in the spice behind fullbacks. He's made the right runs the rights army scored. He's go against men city. I'm I'M GONNA go with him as the Premier League player of the season so far daylight. Saving your count disagree disagree with. I think he's I think he's definitely taken over over from. Fernandino was the best defensive midfield. Probably not just in the premier league and football I promise little Oh Frank leboeuf tonight. I wasn't kidding. Frank feeling a little left out action. Where the question for you frank? I know you were there at the Stanford Franz Marching Franz beat Moldova Josh's favorites Figura. Twenty twenty says she. Frank who do you have Frantz bookies favorites yeah well well. According to what I saw tonight I won't I won't put France. Sure the nicest game ever I I keep on saying that. The Netherlands could be the favorites. I think stevie would agree with me and because they have a fantastic team human. Nobody wants to play nowadays against the land so I would put it lands and after France I agree brother. Netherlands one EH. Well listen it is very difficult to try and predict what teams are going to be. What the forms going to be six months twelve months down the line and his advised fund souray now he can only go in the way teams play and right now? I'm with Frank Belgium. The Netherlands loose Inova island now when qualifying distribution good helpless if you will so I'm bucking that will Jim Robo although favorites for you or twenty twenty right now lit. This has to be Belgium's chance Jim Reverts Martinez can if you can get the same plaid whether the very best. They've got a great chance to win it. Robo Spurs fan next few expository. His Frank Lampard done differently to George he can actually get assist with these policies now exclamation mark. Yeah absolutely what he's gone he's gone in there and he said of what she applied. He lost season and the season before. And at Napoli. Where you very much a ten yard passer the board you Paul Square backwoods now? What used to polite forward? We're GONNA have run as going food Odd Won't you whenever you get the ball to look forward and that's what you'll Gino's done and he's now showing the Kevin Pulse. The ball forward still have doubts about him as a defensive lab in terms of getting on the ball. We're making things happen. He's done really well for Franklin pump. taught Frank Lampard everything everything as a young whippersnapper West hand molded. I'm into the player and coach become under the his lockouts me. That's what my yeah. He's he's got he's got a number plate lamps written on it. Nobody Anyway pry Frank Different Joe. GD And we're looking at. What is Frankie limbaugh part done? I think you give him the confidence a giving leadership a trusted in and I guess it's enough for a good player could be a better and to to show that he's able to do what we are expecting from him but again I agree we see who is too breath. I WANNA know defensively if he can do better but we don't know the answer that question. Do we used to chat. You can give us the answer. This question and said Maximus Maximus Stewart. Did it bully you being the third most famous Robson in English football. Ah Yeah at the same time. There was me the England manager at the time there was Bryan Robson the England captain. Yeah and there was. That was going to the next. Brian Robson apparently but didn't happen. So yes he did date. Bobby Robson the name name Paul Robeson when he was one of those proverbial Didn't have any don't want you to get. It was thirty five about that when he played in played. It wasn't the stability realty cutter. All even the only hit has grown this. I would do because it was known on the site a throw over. It was a complete them. There were fewer those back. The noble are Handy Eddie wrapped around his head. All Bundling phobe Cha. Ah Ralph Coates Ralph C D C anybody you look at these. It's Gone Saas thing we should do especially they both eat. Well there's a there's A. There's a great photo of Puppy Charlton. He's got big swoosh Oh and he goes to head the ball and it's up. I I saw a picture of Bobby. What it actually scored the goal and you should do the same celebration right? He jumped off the the Both feet were built off the ground and one would be there would be like get rid pill Alon with thingy. ESPN especially somewhere. I I just never used it. Franken being planted that switchover as well no the whole yes. It's the knows he's more stylish than that all right now. Did you go from the buck. Full within the fall would say in from the forward to the back but before to buy very young very young but he just shaved. It all started to go. Didn't you know has it takes. Well Yeah Yeah in one thousand nine hundred ninety Right said Fred Frank Suet guys thank you more and more. More follicly-challenged footballers tomorrow of APPS on the show.

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Ep. 22 - Atlanta Utd's Julian Gressel Interview + EPL/Clasico/Classique Rundowns

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Ep. 22 - Atlanta Utd's Julian Gressel Interview + EPL/Clasico/Classique Rundowns

"Yeah. Welcome back, everybody to SAM's army. That's actually, we're just taking it from heart factor that wasn't even your. We'll today I'm here again with our boys here, Mikey and zyppah. And by here, I mean, literally right here next to them look in the I shocked to be honest zaas still alive after what he's been through this weekend. Stay tuned to the end of the podcast boy. Boy, it was a long weekend. Yeah. You're a warriors. There was a lot of Bud Light shout out of shuts PS g so that's actually we'll get to this. So basically, the give you a real quick rundown here. We're going to do one interview with two Andrew's actually for this podcast. This is a chock full of stuff here. So we got an interview then we got the weekend recap. Then we got another interview. And that's it. But the second interview is let's just call it lubricated by day of. Of what what you do them beverages with with fierce G and supporters group here in in New York watching lay classic we will get to that. You're going to get enough of that we really recapped it in the back there. But I yeah, I don't remember what we talked about. Exactly. We'll just let it be let it be before. Takes a very prominent role in the podcast yet. A lot of things to say a lot of a lot of things, right? So that's at the end. It's at the end, we'll get to that. I though we're going to jump in with the first interview, which is with Julian gristle of Atlanta United team that actually just lost in heartbreaking fashion on the last weekend of the season when they had a chance to win the supporters shield loss to Toronto when and then let's see New York. Red bulls beat Orlando so rebels jumped him and won the shield so a little bit of a little bit of a heartbreaking end of the season. But obviously, there's still a great team. And they got a lot of things going for him in the playoffs. And Julian you may have seen did it Instagram takeover seem able earned a little bit. But here's a little bit more about Julian guys, we are back with a nother special guest one who probably needs to introduction, especially after you got to know him quite a quite a bit over the weekend. But this is Julian gristle the winger full rant land United who was did the Instagram takeover on Saturday. So number one. Julian thanks for joining us. Hope you're doing well and thanks for doing the Instagram takeover. Thanks. I'm beyond and fun. Yeah. Peek behind the curtain, and what what goes on with the life of a professional soccer player complete with like extended flight delays and everything. Have you ever talked about maybe getting Arthur blank to cough up a couple of extra dollars get your fly? Private. It's actually actually a players union and all that kinda just Arthur blank all players units working on that. But we'll say the playoff the an extra few dollars. Good. Sounds good. So we'll we'll dig into your profile, but more. So you're twenty four years old. You you said as I said you you're winger for an Laney United a good winger. I might add you picked up the rookie of the year or last year in MLS had a pretty productive campaign this year to believe with four goals and twelve SIS playing for arguably and a lot of people may argue about this now, unfortunately, given the result this weekend. But arguably the best team in MLS, certainly the most fun to watch. So that's a good season. And. But the weird thing here, and we'll we'll dig into this a little bit. So you're from Germany you're born in Germany play in the molest. So you went the opposite direction. We know a lot of guys like, publicity and McKinney. And these guys who went the other way when from the US to Germany, you went from Germany to the US. So tell us just a little bit about how that you know, you grew up playing in a few clubs there. And then you decided to complete the play in the US tell us tell us about the thought process there. Yes. So it was you know, I when I was back in Germany when I was younger. It was a it was time for me where I just dream kind of crush in terms of going through the academy. And then not deny the kademi kind of didn't want me anymore because I wasn't good enough. You know, so I kind of learned really quickly that you have to prepare for life. You know, no matter than that, obviously includes school, and so so that kinda made choice to comfortably you at little easier because it was basically because I wanted to combine school and at the same time. So that was that was those that you know, it was the easiest that could million dot over over in Germany. So. Yeah, that was that was crossing behind it all me going to college getting a bachelor's degree and. Yeah. Keeping the dream of becoming a professional soccer players alive. If it were to happen. Great like it did now obviously mazing. But yeah, that's really the thought process clearly worked out. So is that sort of a diva chip on your shoulder from being told, you know, early on that, you know, maybe maybe you're not good enough. Do you still sort of feel like you really sort out to prove the haters wrong? A little bit. You know? But but looking back, you know, I think I can say now that I wasn't good enough back. Then I was not at the level. My my my friend you were at the same age. You know, I just I just developed a little later than, you know, my body wasn't as quick, you know, I wasn't a strong all these things that just took just took me awhile to kind of catch up. And so I can I can say now, you know, it was a fair point. They made back then I don't hold any grudges against the now, you know, just kinda just kinda how it is. But on the other side, you kind of. Yeah. You kind of kind of still have it in the back of your head. And you kind of like, yeah. I wasn't good enough. You that you know, like still still there? So it's kind of motivates me to kind of keep pushing keep getting better and better. Sure, it's funny. You say that the what I tell myself why I didn't get professional contractors? I'm still developing, you know, even now all these years later, I haven't hit on peak. It. Someday, someday, they'll come calling those those pro. So we'll connection. What was your connection to the US when you when you decided to come here, and you ended up playing providence college, did you did you have some sort of connection in the US and how jammed up there? Yeah. So between tenth and eleventh grade in Germany, actually, took a gap year, right after I had, you know, gotten kicked out of that academy. Try something new so I decided to go over to the US join exchange year. My my went to Florida the small private school live with the host family near the beach. You know, it was a great time. So I got introduced to the American culture, I loved it. And I didn't know back then that I was gonna come come back to go college. That was just a vision. I'm kinda made two years later when when I was skinny Shing up high school. But yeah, I mean, I got juice culture like that. And a great time. And and it was definitely something where she myself in long-term almost criminal. It's interesting. The your your first experience with US would have been through Florida, man. We've probably got the better now and you decided to come back. So I pretty impressive. Yeah. No. It was a good spot. Now. So on a scale from definitely probably are you a German sleeper who just came here to spy on the US Germany crashed out of the World Cup. So, you know, you basically taking information back to Germany to to tell them how to improve their German soccer system. Most definitely. Yeah. Definitely, no. I mean. Yeah. The couple's Magritte's, obviously for Germany, and there's a lot of changes happening now willing conceal see that the way they play. And and kind of what is what is going on with the federation? But I hope they you know, they can turn it around quick. And just so just as much as I hope that you can you know, I think this is a big coaching hire coming up now. And we'll all be anxious even me when I'm watching that closely as well for sure so the your German citizens still, but obviously you got deep roots here in the US have you ever considered? Obviously, there'd be a lot of paperwork gonna go through. And I'm sure and take a lot of time, but have you ever considered getting green card and playing for the US? Instead the national team I mean. Yeah. It's really hard for me to consider because there's so much more paperwork, and so many more years, I would have to go through to kind of be eligible, you know, I don't even have a green card yet. So would still take the probably five years from that point on until I was eligible to get a passport. So it's really, yeah. Just just a matter of kind of waiting it. And kind of seeing what's happening. In the meantime, you know, but I think if ever were to come down. To that time. You know, where the US would wanna call me up in Germany has shown any interest of doesn't show any interest in the new future. Then they'll probably say, yeah. So we know we gotta do we just gotta get a hold of Trump and get some get some papers pushed, and you know, some sign offs and speed this process up and we'd have another under speedy winger. Just what we need. Yeah. That's probably another another point to bring up to us or right, right? He's he's probably connections. Probably more than me. Tweet Lanham starting starting tomorrow. So you play for Atlanta. This is clearly one of the Primo destinations in MLS. These days sort of come out of nowhere. You're playing in front of sixty seventy thousand people every day tells a little bit about that. How does it compare to other? Is there anybody else on on the level of Atlanta that you play at and how difficult is it to play in the stadiums? That are you know, say half full and not anywhere near as big as as the stadium in Atlanta. Well, I'm gonna have to start with there's nothing compared to to this atmosphere that you get here. You know, every time we step on the home field. It's been incredible. And what the supporters have created or the fans have created for this club. And how they've shaped the culture of club. It's been it's been unbelievable. And yeah, you're right. You know, those those to go to other places its sometimes tough when he played in front of seventy thousand and then week later you play in front of fifteen thousand and ninety thousand seat stadium. You know? So it's it's it's difficult sometimes. But I mean, it kinda comes with the job, you know, you have to be prepared for for different environments and different different situations. So you have a week leading up to kind of what environment you're getting into. But ultimately, all that matters. You know, it's kind of what's on the pitch. And what's so what's happening within the lines? And and those ninety minutes, you know, 'cause there's three points grabs no matter plan for two people or seventy thousand you know, so. That's really just just kind of professional minds just to have that. And. Yeah, get three points. Sure. So so beyond the the excitement off the pitch or field as we would say around here. The you play with some of the best players in most exciting guys in the league with guys like McGwire Miguel Marrone Joseph Martinez. So tell us a little bit about them as as, you know, say teammates, and what what have you learned from playing with them? Oh, it's been. It's been really cool to be around those guys to be able to share the pitch with them. And then see those guys they in the day out. You know, what they do best? I mean Justice an incredible cheer, you know, skirt scoring thirty one goals Miguel is created so much for us. It's probably our most important player. I would argue, you know, but it's it's every day. You know, they they're if they comes to get better. And that's kind of what you know makes yourself better as well. And when you see all those guys work the best players on your team, you know. So it's just kind of kind of motivates you as well. So it's a it's been it's been of fun to be around those guys and to learn from those guys and and spend some more time with them. You know, no matter no matter where their careers or their career. We'll take you know, I think oh definitely have learned a lot from them know, if it's if it's small things like will move with Miguel dogs know create more space for him or or. Kinda meeting moving off Joseph where he gives me tips on kind of where to cross the ball, you know, to kind of have better in better position things like that. You know, it's it's been it's been cool experience. Sure. And so I guess more importantly than soccer who'd win an armless in contest between Joseph and Miguel. That'd be Joseph. No question. No question. Okay. What about you? Where would you? Would you be beat Miguel? Yeah. I think I could even go I'm to have to actually be tight match. I think between two tight competition, but you me and jobs. I think trying though he's in the gym, you know, the gym a lot, but more ways drawn between lines reading between the lines sort of called him a bit there. No, he's not as strengthening this this. I think everybody sees that he's much skinny guy. That's really fast and quick. And that beats you different ways than than being strong. Sure, sir. Nothing's week. Sure. He's more of a speed. I get it. I get what you're saying. Exactly. So there's a lot of talk about those guys getting sold to two big teams for lots of money. Has it ever crossed your mind? You know, maybe I'm not gonna pass them the ball this time. So we can keep them around next season. No on the failed. You'd never ever think about that stuff. But yeah, that's going to be a time. You know? And and those guys deserve, you know, because they've been playing well, and they they have that in that as well. You know to go to the next level and do all the next level as well. Little be good for Leno because from less, and and yeah, I'm excited to watch them wherever they go. Going to be more happy. If they're going to stay with me play in Atlanta, the more. So we'll see it was in the back of your mind. It sounds like. Who's the who's the toughest defender you came up against the season? A question. I think the guy go with the rebels, I think, you know, Camo law, and she's been it's been good all year shut me down. Not in the first game. I got a little more little more gentleman more freedom because it was at home. I think but in the second game, I think he did a good job, you know, but I hope gets against it two more times this year. And then we'll go kind see you comes out on top of that really really counts. You know as right? That's right. As I think everybody any neutral fan, anyways, certainly rooting for that. So speaking of rebels, they got the result they wanted and you guys didn't yesterday. You know, it's probably soon and probably tough to talk about. But can you put your finger on anything that went wrong yesterday? When when you guys couldn't pull out the win against Toronto. Really hard to. I think just point the finger at one certain thing. And then talk about that being the the problem with what we have yesterday. I mean, it was a tough resolve obviously like bad performance on our end, Billy disappointing the way we we kinda started the game. And and then, you know, ended up being for one, you know, you can't really give four goals in the game. You have to win. So it's it's it was just a poor performance. Nothing. Really? I can say concrete. That's one thing that that stood out to also to me, and we did wrong. It's just just small mistakes that got punished and and just couldn't really find a way of getting back in the game and getting selves positions to to succeed in that day. You know to towns a lot of people are saying they're sort of blaming me because I brought Alex Bono onto the Jess couple of weeks ago. And essentially he. That barstool bump, whereas, you know, you guys you guys haven't gotten that bump yet. It will come in the next few weeks when it's more important. Can you confirm though that he actually had a great game? And was one of the reasons you guys couldn't pull it out. Yeah. You know, you've been good and you had a good game. Lucky a bit on on one of my shops there crossbar helping out punched up before the game or something. I don't know. Yeah. Let's hope you pass that on to be now. And like you said will get hot extra week. So we'll get out of the PM, and we'll we'll finish the postseason. Sure. Sure. Sounds good. We'll so after the game, you know, tattoo Martino. Sure, you guys were all down in the dumps having just barely missed out on on a a trophy like that. But did you did he come in yelling and screaming? Did he give you the, you know, I'm disappointed, you know, not mad. I'm just disappointed routine. The even worse, which would which were what was the strategy for for coming in and talking to you guys after the game. Yeah. It was it was more quiet. He didn't scream. It was more quiet talk more than that. But this appointed kind of kind of talk. You know, I don't think anybody really needed to hear anything. I think we all kind of sheltered ourselves. You know, that we you know, we got a butts kicked on the field. And and you don't feel great after that, especially when it's trophy. So he didn't really have to say much. But no, I kinda just, you know, just just disappointed performance. And the way we played in the way, we kind of kind of just yeah. Threw away the thirty three good games. We've had a paddle year. You know? And we've put ourselves in position. And then to kind of go on and then formed like that when it when it really really counts trophy is. Yes, just as appointing and unfortunate, you know, that happens, but at that moment, but he also kind of mentioned the future already, you know, that you have to still kind of short. Quick memory loss a little bit, you know, and then kind of focus on the play offs. And and see CO far we can take it now because we're still everything to play for. Sure. Sure. So, you know, speaking of the future it finally came out that that Totta Martinez moving on after the season. There's a lot of uncertainty. So I know it's probably sensitive question. But I sorta got I gotta ask anyway. 'cause I got at least two. Big Jay journal here. So, you know, did the uncertainty hanging around his possible departure did have any impact on the on the team on the locker room on anything. No, I don't think. So I mean, you know, there was we've obviously been reading a lot of rumors about the rumors and the not just not just but all the other guys as well. You know, I mean, he told us last week after the Chicago game that he decided not to to to come back to Atlanta, and then kind of leave the job, and it was a meeting me. It was not even five minutes. You know? And I think that's when it was over. You know, everybody knew I don't think anybody was to surprised we kind of knew about those rumors, you know, most those got louder and louder that something was, but that was just confirmation of that. And yeah, then we moved on, you know, it was still a normal week in practice. We still. Yeah. Worked hard work. The normal way didn't affect the way we practiced had a good week of training. You know? So I don't think it affected us at all to be honest with you sure is it could it be. Sort of rallying point. Now, you know, knowing he's gonna leave after the season, you got more games to play important games to play. Could you sort of rally around the fact that he's leaving and turn it into a positive that you're really need to you know, win for Totta before he before he heads out. Yeah. I mean, if it says the guy, you know, that that really needs that extra motivation. I think that's really good point. You know? But for me, I don't I don't really need it. You know, I think there's there's too much personal motivation behind all of this that I don't really need any extra extra motivation. You know, I think I wanna win it because you know, the fans deserve it. They have been incredible loss two years. We've talked about you know, I wanna win it because we've done such a good job on the field. You know, it was kinda put us positions that have gotten a point, you know. So we really, you know, just wanna focus on that. And then obviously it's been it's been incredible ride. And I'm I'm personally really motivated to to to win the trophy just because those situations don't come around often in your soccer career. You know? Sure. Well, you know, there's still more games to play. We'll be watching before we before we let you go though. You know, we gotta learn a little bit about who. Aline wrestle really as the man off the soccer field. So tell us a little about your social life. I believe you mentioned that you are getting married soon. Congrats on that. I'm sure it's, you know, your time job in and of itself getting all that stuff going. But what do you do for fun? What are you talking phone off the field? I'm a sports guy, you know, through and through. Every time. I watch TV sports on, you know, my fiance goes crazy. But so she sometimes takes takes the clicker from me. But you know, I love being outside as well. You know, I like to play golf. It's it's been big passionate line. You know, where I try and try and just yeah. Just kind of shut my mind off a little bit of soccer, you know, and just hit going some balls more swing frustrated with that. But like, I said Atlanta's been great, you know, to be outside spend a lot of time my dog, you know, we walk around quite a bit. I was pretty hectic himself. So it's been been great. You know? So everything's sports connected. And and yeah, I mean, you know, other than sometimes I play call duty or or fica, you know, against my my brothers back home in Germany. That's always fun when I get my my buttocks and the from them, so. Yeah. Just a just a normal stuff. That's on the life. You know? So when you play do you play with an Lana do you play with yourself? Here and there, and that's usually the times when actually beat my brother. So. Yeah. So I should choose them. More often clicking minute on you know, quote, unquote, national broadcast that you play with yourself. So I like that. Well, that's it. That's it is pretty pretty painless. I hope but it was great to to get to know your little bit. And we're gonna be watching for you. Obviously, you know, you could have a few more weeks here, if not months MLS playoff seemed to go on forever. But hopefully, you guys do. Well, you've been a lot of fun to watch the season. And we will be rooting for you and on top of that you got the barstool bump going for you. So I don't know it seems like you guys almost can't lose it. This point. Yeah. I mean, that'd be amazing. You know, like I said it's incredible to win. I'm coming home. That'd be a dream come true for sure. But it we'll see where go, you know, when you dream come true for them less to see that kind of atmosphere doing the awesome. So thanks again. And hopefully, we'll get you back on soon enough. It's been great speaking with Julian. Good. Thank you on again. Thank you. All right. So that was drooling. Almost Julian green. You know? No, no. Julian Julian green, both fast wingers, you know, one of them plays for the US one of them. I was trying to convince to complete for the US pretty much same people there. But so that was Julian and we will now move on to the the weekend recap starting as usual with the EPL were the game of the weekend took place not on the weekend. But on Monday and Spurs shockingly put the pressure on. But actually, you know, what I should say this before we get into the to the games. So there was a moment of silence before the the game in in memory of the AVI shy survived. Hana papa. Yeah. I practiced tried that. That's that's. So that's a chairman and owner or less theory. I still can't believe I got it somewhat. So he he and for the people died in a helicopter crash you tragedy right after leagues game on Saturday and they played West Ham. There's really it's just one of those things there's there's nothing good say about it. It's a horrible tragedy. It sounds like he was a a really great guy. And he put a lot into, you know, gave gave a lot to the soccer world. And you know, gave a lot to LeicesteR. It sounds like it sounds like he was really well loved, you know, it's just terrible. They took off from the field and like immediately the helicopter crash in the parking lot. It's just what's crazy. What's crazies heat? He he had done that same exact thing avows times. That's how he gets to and from to and from every single game list of plays. He flies in onto the field, and you know, flies off and. Yeah, it was just said, I don't know if you guys actually not to get too much into an unofficial saw. But c- Sky News was able to do. To obtain C C, two C C T. I is a very big in the scumbag, by sky Sky, News, tanks clinics. Yeah out, and it's I sorry. Just add dimension. No, that's that's scumbag. So that's worth more that's worth mentioning. Yeah. Nothing. Good to say about that not making light. But moving on moving on. We'll we'll stick with what happened on the field going forward to game the weekend. Tatham Sydney just ended for us. You guys you've had a few hours digests. I'm still just didn't hear being you know, expectedly butthurt guesses sort of the feeling hit me. I guess at Tottenham they they lost one zero for anybody who is on Iraq. And that didn't see the games they lost one zero to Citi field on a football field. American football field, the grass was awful. I mean, it was just awful. I'm not going to give them a that excuse though for for his goal. But so city dominated dominated the game. Most of the game not all the game at all the game. Obviously one of the talking points is the Frick Paci no plate. I mean, he didn't start deli. He didn't start Erickson I thought Eric Erickson was healthy in. I thought deli was not healthy. And that's maybe why he was doing no explanation. It's really simple team in the League Cup. Like so city was the better team. I would say route now, but usually and David Silva, they were already up one nothing. First goal came onto Karen interbay mistake. You know, give just trippy as not a defender. He's a great crosser of the ball. He's a great free kick artist. Whatever you wanna call him. He's not a defender. Unfortunately, Mickey's playing back there. It is. Shame. Shame. I don't even get into that. What is doing on that second? All the way from what do you do? I mean like Tino his starting eleven David Silva, his whatever the hell he did right there. And then punch Tino bringing Eriksen in Delhi and at the end. And then lamelo, obviously, we gotta talk about the the lamelo miss the Spurs had their chances. What God don't get a better chance that we in? It's that's that's a little bit. I was in watching the screen. What the hell going on? What the hell is going on on a strong left foot to? Yeah. Which we sending it into rose e at that time. I mean, it's you hate seeing shit sightseeing just seeing on I love seeing it. I loved seeing thing. But just to put put it a put the game into perspective. The city was the better team in a very terrible game that they weren't that many that their chances sloppy Mila one is only one. And then, of course, it evid Silva. Yep, thing and yeah. So it was a could've gone any. Anyway, it was definitely a disappointment in terms of the weekend. What we we're expecting because this this was. And then the eleven to just try not lose by too much felt I really did feel like you don't joke about prioritizing League Cup. It's not obviously what he's doing. But like it looked like he made a business decision today. And that that that's gotta gotta feel pretty shitty. Actually like he didn't think he could play with city with his best eleven today. And when we had that eleven out there, we looked a lot better that Spurs with Ericsson in Delhi on the field are better within without designated strays. This is raising. It looked like it looked. I asked you during the game. And I definitely should have saved for the podcast. Would you rather have played the game at Wembley on your half finished eighty? Yeah. Wimbley women because I think I think the the fact that that that terp was so bad that definitely helped I think because city, you know, they've shown that they can pass the ball around. This. Can you do it on a Monday night at Wembley can the Premier League exit? Even let them play a hundred on. That was crazy nuts. That pitch was all this apron snuck up on that. She's been on the schedule for that shit. Was that pitch looked worse than the pitches? People back home, not not not not in the city the city where I lived actual clubs. No the village within you know, the grass root said look like one of those fields we plan. That's all bad always. Which is I'm from religion, Massachusetts. And it was just as shitty. My. Did bring back to high school. You know, we're done with that fucking games move onto United Everton. There's a couple of games United Everton being another one of them. Interesting move by Josie to bench Koku who hasn't scored Nate games. So it's understandable. Why he did? But but for once it seems like Josie actually pulled the right lever input in Anthea Marcial. And rash verd- and giving them more freedom of top respite was not so greatness game. Marcio was him beast. He's been a beast for a month. Now. I mean, you gotta give the guy credit for a new team. Maybe three probably I think he just said he didn't sign a new contract. He's playing he's trying out. Right. Yep. One Mata has also been playing really well for call out some guys who played well. And it is usual hit and miss thing. But yet early on the penalty. Yes. Oh, we got a quick tangent on that inches second. But before we get that Jordan Pickford was the best player on the field for these like they could lost by sixty six schools. Pickford was was huge. It was the one. I remember the one. I thought was incredible. I think was a near post shot they came in from the right? I forgot who it was might have been. Was it poked bomb? Oh, my she elementary must yell. He pick it it. It was hit Loa low lift side. He got down so quick with his hand block that out. There was an impressive save. I couldn't believe it didn't go. This foot on another one. You're talking about. Coming in from the right is prey rash for I'm just guessing. But yeah, really, I don't know why you didn't go with his feet. They went with his hands, which is all right away. But executed. Yeah. Play. Good play. I was quite a he had a number of good place. We'll get into one of them right now. So quick Danjean United's opening goal came on a penalty as really we call. I saw but I dress a gay brought Marcial down in the box. But gig out a lot ball in this. It just didn't strike me. As a as a goal suffer a call this weekend. A lot of entities a lot of Sunday specifically and so Pogue bus stepped up and took it. So the real point of this is not the the call which was not great in my opinion. But the the Paul pod was stepped up and took the penalty, and he did this Simmons as I like run up. He doesn't ball or where he this this. He essentially did at this time. I mean, this time he took like fifty little term any little steps towards the ball was like Zazai did in the the he did it for France in the euro twenty sixteen I believe and then. Za`z ball is like still circling that miss somewhere came. So like he just got murdered online for that for the play. If Paul Paul done that again any almost did. I mean, it wasn't as bad, but journ Pickford a really nice save on it like one handed really nice save and Papa came right back to Papa fog by then slotted at home. So he isn't gonna get Memed today. You would have been all my God. He would have got. But actually went Cadillac move Cadillac player. I mean, you know. Wants to be the center of attention everytime. That's it. That's exactly it. Because of the thing about that. I noticed there were so many people on BBC all these pundits talking heads. We're just clucking their brains out about you know, the fact he did this step or run up to the to the play, you know, quote, unquote, making it all about himself, which extra truly does. But like it doesn't matter. He made it. Okay. That's what matters made it to each gourd. And these guys lose it. It's like that old school player, or we probably old school player slash pundit thing where in baseball where they're like, you know, anybody who's flips a bad or, you know, big Dicks a homerun solo around the basis. They're just like, you know, these guys are not playing the game the right way. Not that you doing as you speak on score. You put a guy that looks and dresses like pug by an England and give those pundits the chance to talk about him. And it turns into a whole different ball game yet. He's been doing the same thing as I think. But now he's in England where it's you know, the light is brighter. You know? But can we agree that if you do should get and you do you don't he was taking the chance came to be fucking murdered on Twitter? All yeah. Yeah. Put on any took a risk. And in the pick for got a hand on it. I mean, he could have been could have been bad, but he scored at they won two to one. So well done United. I think overall. Josie a little breathing room. Can't be mad about that. So unfirable me mad about that. The next game. You guys probably a little bit about this palace and arsenal. Drew to this game. Eleven straight wins for our snow coming into this game. I don't know if you guys know that people forget that. And yet and yet you guys found a way not to beat pallet. How many was that a team level Winslett then the team that had like zero they were more lifeless than Mikey sex life right now, which. I love that. I love that. Right. I love that. I'll tell you. What though I I'm willing to go down easier than Zahed did. Ladies. That was a I just did that for the sake of. But genuinely so I wanted to bitch so bad about this penalty the second one. And then jock was like I felt him. So you don't wanna be guy that talks about it? I thought he did too. Dummy thought DOD like fun himself around there, but a little bit Jacques kept his leg out. In was very he kept it not only that if he was actually paying attention Zonta pushed the bowl white. So he actually didn't have to have that did put it away to wasn't gonna get to it back. So that is true. So the the big talking point there is his Jaakko. We saw like the the good Jacques and the badge goal or goal, which is really nice. Playing at a position for you. He scorned. I get that too one up. We have to win the game. This this is at what when when did they call eighty something like eight hundred eighty third minute come on, man. You gotta focus. You've gotta focus. He close out that game. We got title. We've got a title I want. I want Rams. There's the title. I want Ramsey gone. Now, doesn't that he wants to be. There doesn't look like he wants to be there. I'm not. I mean, I'm there's a place in a time and a place for Gwen doozy. I don't think a road game at palaces a place for Glendon. I thought he played Cadillac player. No. I think he's inexperience and that's the top place to go. No matter what. For being honest. I thought he thought he he played fine. We play he's Hungary's and he's an angry guy. But like his plan against real big men there. It's it's we coming into this game last week. You guys were popping Boehner's about our snow being titled tender, at least we wanna usually I don't know if we both were but one you definitely want which we are. And then you come into this game. And let's be honest. You got lucky to get a point. I mean that first goal was a handball clearly obvious handball at that was the first thing he said to me, I haven't seen you in person in fucking months, you come into New York, and I go, hey, what does that do it his hand? Hi sam. Get out of business here what we do doing here. So I don't know if you if you take if you go back and actually look at that what happened to like bushes. He got pushed so he had his hand his hand doing by penalty. Yeah. But okay. So it's a penalty before. So now, you're saying you can't joke with your. I'm kidding. I've been very consistent this penalty. It's before tangible. On the push now. Of course. I will say though. Have you ever seen a ball go in by such a little margin? You couldn't even get a paper that was too as they showed the the above shot worth the it was it didn't the I couldn't even tell from that show was actually over the it was point four of a centimeter crazy point four percents. Amazing. What else in that game? I have to note. Okay. We talked at length about the formation went with the bombing on the left again apparent. He's unhappy about that. I I would be to include isn't plays. I was reading somewhere that that. He's he's not happy about while. He it's not it's not that. He he said anything he liked tweet. He liked the tweet that someone tweeted responded to one of the main arsenal. Tweet tweets, they tweet central or ways. I, you know, and that's unfortunately, because like he likes has probably been our player the month last month, probably the one of the best all around physical mobile finishing strikers in the league right now about being is scoring a massive production rate. When does not wanna play to forward because it doesn't allow you to play Oziel ten and always just played crazy. So you I guess he made the choice. Whether it's like a bombing on the left or play two strikers Oziel doesn't get to play his ten and he went with the Oziel system and knows wasn't good and temper tantrum ago when he got him not a good day. I didn't like that bad look on the black, man. Black roughly them so one word one word answer from you guys. Both are arsenal title contender arena. Yes guy wrong, Mikey right now. And yes, and can I clarify 'cause I'm catching that was that was. That was like yes to you. I say I say what's the next game? We have to talk about. I don't have a one word answer for that. Oh, yes. Oh, yes. Can I can I? Caveat people people killing people killing me for things for saying. You know, I actually genuinely believe are believe that you believe and now now to actually justify what what I mean. So people on and on about. Hey, evan. Be haven't played the big teams. And all that guess what? Whether you beat men city or not doesn't matter to win the premium league, you have to have the most points. So. If you if you just win enough points if you get enough points. We we should we should run the get three points play every week. We have we have we have we on eleven game run. We will picking up points. I mean, we should have picked up to extra ones. Here's another side note to zyppah member we did say when you twenty four to twenty four you are out. So, you know. Yeah. Actually, actually. He's on the he's on the chopping block. We'll see we'll see what what this deliverable game coming up. The. That's actually learn a lot about it. Literally puts so much pressure on us. We needed four goals in that game. We need to win now. Whereas if we had actually won this Crystal Palace one we just didn't need to lose. We just need to lose two two. Little would. Okay. What about the draw still, unfortunately? Yeah. Well, let's talk about liberal so Ford one card if it sounds a little ridiculous to say this you said that the over. I did did I thought ever Liverpool's by themselves over with five and a half. So wasn't Kim. What's it? Sounds ridiculous coming out of my mouth, and when I wrote it down. But like the fact that most house scored a gold, and I think Ted to assist saudi-omani score goals. They still didn't look that good consistently across. No, I'm being honest here. This really speaks to what I my expectation level for them because clearly a goal into assists and two goals for for money. I mean, it's a good game. But like they just weren't consistent over the ninety minute through lot of Sabi passes a lot of bad runs. I simply useless runs. Virgil Van Dyke player. I mean, he's he he turned over bull around. Right. You gotta give that we'll see. I'm just saying that it's up. It's basically me saying I expect so much out of Liverpool that them having this sort of be minus performance and kicking the shit out of Cardiff. I'm still like disappointed by it. Yeah. We'll see they Bobby from you know, was out there. So you get AL's about about a freakout on the in regards that Virgil Van Dyke being clear. Best plan the primitive for MVP, though. If not best player, then I want to gold. I just remember lady lady some some stat that they've only conceded one goal at home, which is crazy to that. They've only conceded nowhere. So one of the the three the three were away was an arsenal thirteen. So I don't feel great. Well, the best thing about this game, obviously was DeJean lover. And coming back in our lives missed him when he fell down to see that. I did I Instagram. For Liverpool at arsenal. One thirty pm next Saturday where will you be I will be at the drunk hind pay. Here we go rob ably free by the time, but you know, free ads, but by the time, maybe legend cut that part. But by the time by the time the game starts on probably going to be like twenty two the show faced on your this week. I have zero doubt about that. We have got a record after any any SAM's army listeners in New York that goonies feel free to pull through come in. And so I'm not doing I'm not doing meet and greet every fucking week. Come hang out. Take that dead. Also, speaking dead Fulham's defense official three just dead. I mean, they're they're actually this is a historically bad start to see I remember Minnesota United analyst came just like they came out of the gates giving up a million goals a game. I think it was last season. And this fullness done the exact same thing. They've given up twenty eight goals in ten games, which you know, no mathematician. That's basically three game. I'm you can't expect to win anything even up three goals a game. They might still get out. I mean, they they they just need to the managers gotta go at this point. Somebody's gotta change somebody's gotta change. And you can't fire the players. You got a part of the manager. You got to find something needs new thinking, maybe June one hundred Joe kind of he's gotta go his Kevin James hurt. As probably why they leaking Alfie. Martin's on the ranch. Yeah. I don't I don't see. I don't to Kalamazoo wasn't in the squad out what the deal is. Are you pro count chambers? Now, Gunar Tim Raines, one of my guys, I I show. I support my guys. Let's leave the photo. Right back is also weird like he had a whore lame to. Yeah. That's bad Fulham defense. But at the same time, we got to give the cherry some credit here music the team that is playing really well, they're fun to watch. I keep saying this and then comes out and prediction time. But they're fun to watch. Ryan Fraser, my guy. He's like a little monster at my fucking diminutive. Gotta so good for them. There's going to be ups and downs for born with. I'd say the season. But it was up that was that was an up, and I think what we can say at this point is they're not going to be in contention for relegation, which is which is a great. I mean, let's not go to we're not they're not in contention. Maybe for real Europa. I mean, they're obviously on in contention for top four. Let's be serious as personal barely is. So. Oh, yes. Says you. So hopefully, essentially I would love to see born with solidify their position as you know, one of those gloriously Meteo, mediocre mid-table teams. I'm Naomi to say. Yeah, Michio ker me debacle EPL teams. We've sort of been lacking a lot of those. I I guess you could source a west West Ham and LeicesteR are but we've used to be in villa. Sunderland. Stoke maybe way gin for warning. Hosting United next weekend is exit pick game. Yeah. To fun game too. Yeah. Everything with the United. You know, anytime you think it's gonna be fun. It's going to I sleep this could be hopefully, they give up a couple of calls early. And then it'll be a lot of fun Chowdhury for no convincing. I think honestly the talking point. There is Burnley. This is this is not that Burley like that Burnley last year were able to shut the door turf moor park the bus fortress. Stop the stop the opposition from scoring any simple. That was an. Well, there's there's some Demy said about that. But they can do that last season. They clearly they just cannot do it the seasonal so whatever the changes needed. There's some change in the Sean Daish gets a lot of credit for being whatever the ingenious the up and coming next great, you know, English coach he's he's got to do something. You know, I am ready to his credit as as done something something fixed arsenal, John, you know, he's got to prove that he's a legitimate coach by by showing showing us what kind of personnel moves or technical changes. He needs to do something. Because what they're doing right now is is just not working. They're in trouble there. I think they're on eight points right now, which is three three out of the relegation zone. I believe so that they are. They are in trouble Rawson shot on target in that game crossbar. That's the other point. I had I had written down. That was talking. I think he murdered your sorry is getting the best out of. It's great. I mean, like I'm happy for Tottenham were in forum this this when you guys got him. I think last January or not you guys Chelsea got him in January. I I did not why wanted did not want to touch him Reddaway athlete. He peed. He just looked like he wasn't having fun anymore playing soccer. You never know if that's gonna like be a problem going forward. But it looks like now I mean, he looks like he's having fun. He's playing quite whatever series done to him. Yes. I think part of it is that he was when he was with Everton. He felt like he was the best player on the team anybody been and you just felt like watching him. He looked like he was trying to do too much at all times. Take too many touches trying to find that killer pass like Aaron Ramsey to me possibly. I mean, he was basically trying to be like a messy en- hazard type for any just he's not that. He's not on that. Yeah. I mean, he's a really good player, but he's not on that level. And so if you try and be on that level when you're not on that level. It doesn't. Out. Well, located exactly so it's really good to see him going out there for. Yeah. And playing well and another change that I think Chelsea nerds will like espe- acquit the playing out type back again. I really like I like when they play like this with the foreign the back in his book with the right back. We'll just call him. Dave golden day spill liquid little sing. I've sung enough this weekend. I'm good. So Chelsea, you know, they're good. Let's give Chelsea's credit. They they don't have striker. I gotta make sure I say that every episode people. Remember that goal while he did. He did really did. I gotta give credit but against Joe heart. I mean is that. Arts fall again, unders-, right? Every couple, you know millenniums. Hey, so Josie. No, no got a couple more watt for Huddersfield to we're talking about how bad. Right. There is three new Waterford every goal that. They scored was like really nice sale phases. Sick. It was nice Pereira's prayer. Does. He's gonna get sold by the for some reason because I did my fantasy team on Tuesday or Wednesday for some reason, I convince my brain while I was gonna pick him. I thought I did on Tuesday Wednesday. I go check my lineup on Saturday. And all and he's not in my team. And I was very rare F he scores every week. He's he's really good in a good team. Huddersfield is is not a good team. And they their offense. We were talking about how bad foams defenses hotter. Offenses just as bad. I mean, they've I don't know. How many goals they gotta think maybe four or something through ten games? That's just a total gas. But it's really low. The problem is that they can't for. Okay. There we go. The problem is that they don't have players to turn around. Like Mooney is a good player, but he's not going to be a consistent scorer on level. And he's the best. They got. It's just. It's unfortunate. It's going to be a long point being it's going to be a long season attack. Aaron Moi get out of there. Baldy? He's a he's he's a he's a bulldog bulb bulldog him net. Lafrance very good watch for it is very good team as well. So that you got to put that in there as well. Three more games will run through so Southampton and Newcastle for the second game in a row. This is officially acknowledging the Southampton played a game. And now, we're never gonna be. Even see. Nation. We saw we see all your tweets me. And Sam in person on said on Sunday talked about Southampton quite a bit. But we're not gonna make you guys. Listen any of it. Because awesome. It's not even rented. But congrats Newcastle's they got a point you know, until like. Probably doubling their point total for the siegler more than I am. And you guys tied zero zero actually this weekend basing. Two more games. Brighton. Beat wolves at home when no goal for no goals for wolves again after their hot start. So it's a gopher who not wolves for Brighton for who. Oh who scored for Brighton landmark? Scores when he wants. Yeah. He does. The prototyping rightness and one point behind wolves for all this wolf. Yeah. Yeah. Which it which is interesting. Listen wolves dominated this game. Okay. They had I think twenty five shots to seven I believe. So they they just absolutely dominated. They had more like sixty some percent session and corners to one. I mean, they dominated this game. Res they need to get their offense on track are or they're not going to be a Europa contender. I mean, they can be if they keep scoring goals or they start again scoring goals, but credit to Bredon, you know, I mean, this wasn't this was actually a smash and grab, you know. One of those games where they didn't really deserve it at. But you these types of winds are what differentiates midtable mediocrity from relegation battle in the spring. So twenty five points off sixty percent position and you lose now. That's that's just unacceptable. That'll happen there. Twenty five points from safety Brighton at one shot and target. Fools Glen Murray. One speaks the small margins in the game. I'm gonna talk about big margins though. We going going to run the world. Yeah. That. Red rocket Mikey over here with the almost seamless segue before we do we got a so we talked about less than West Ham. I was tragedy. The the game itself was not great at you know. Caldwell didn't start Jamie Vardi for some reason it ended up being a one one draw for those who don't know. I didn't start Jimmy Vardi, which is an interesting decision. I would say, and, you know, wouldn't you know, it they look just completely listless off the only thing I the only talking I add from this game. Actually was Mark Brighton. Or for bright, Mark noble? The the size of his balls that it took to like come in with a tackle his foot was almost like knee level. And then he got up and gave the rough like a walk that. Are you serious crime was dudes leg that was a ballsy move to get up and like complainer like act shocked you Fred card on. Once that when somebody told me one time that I've never heard Mark nobles name, not said both names together. Mark noble, stroked, Mark. You can't say noble. Mark noble was one of those full name guys. And that tackle was just it was awful. He's from a different era stuck in the two thousand. I mean that was barely a foul. Fifteen twenty he's like a nineteen eighty five the other historic. So the conclusion I say both these teams probably headed for mid-table Miyachi. I keep saying listen. Yeah. I think along with how shady dealing Jamie Vardi feels. I don't know why he didn't play. I mean, I I've got I've got nothing that only not show. Why not out there after that? After that season moving leaving even list, right? He's never forgotten that Vardi was linked arsenal turn style. Stay when idiot. I think that was an idiot of blessing. I don't know if it was a blessing disguising just a blessing. Everybody news a blessing. He's he's old and member what he scored in eleven straight. And I was getting very close to because does watching the footage and the Ritchie hugged the Adna for the children. Some some members of the family talked to seem that he was very very closer. He's on that probably convinced him to say, probably, that's that's the LeBron EPL. Now, we will to lap around the world who is much darker transition from Wester game to this game. But I'm not gonna for leaving it. We'll even in a loner we go into L classic. Oh, I would love to. Yes, we'll start with L classic. Oh, it was. It was a close game for a lot. Well, I'll take that back. It started out being like Madrid was going to just get their asses killed Barscelona came out scored two goals. Look like they were gonna overrun them. Then Madrid came back. I don't know what happened that they turned it on made a mistake scored a goal and had a couple of other. I think the posting in Luke Amodu to the inside of the post on that he should finish that every time. And then all of a sudden, they just they just. Turned over. And that happens in classical though, it was a strange get one like when the classical gets to like eighty five, and it's like a little outta reach the next three goals are coming instantly scored three inquiries for Soir. Tune in. I mean as far as as far as the best nine in the world. No, no. He's for me. He's lost a step. He's he is an insanely, you know, final world his finishing like you get him anywhere near the goal sorta like run onnell Rinaldo type or you know, if you get them a look at goal, he's just a deadly finisher outside of the the foot when he flashed it that pass you mean last week the pass. Yeah. Last last week, but this week that was the first of all the header from sixteen yards out. That was really nice really finishers goal. Unbelievable to be Kwa from sixteen yard your head. And then there was one that was crossing in this bad podcasting. Sign my hit with outside of that was the one that didn't go in Korea. And then obviously finished a couple beautifully. So I don't know that team is think of any other nines on as better without Messia. Has to be has to be at the hell. Until the takeaways from this two of them number one Barcelona's defense. I keep saying I just I'm not that convinced their their defense is Champions League winner quality Anak minced yet number to Madrid has absolutely lost its fast ball. The fact that it waited almost a whole day before firing logo Taghi and not five minutes after the final whistle. I mean is unbelievable. You can't lose a fi. You can't be on the hot seat and lose a game five one two year like mortal rival and not get your ass like thrown out immediately. So I'm Madrid that makes me even more concerned about Madrid's feature. I am googling who's willing up right now the Real Madrid next permanent manager who's. Yeah. Yeah. Linked right now, which is interesting for Chelsea fans, because they're you know, count and has art hate each other. And there's been talk about hazard going along favorite. Who is Larry really? Yep. And then it goes, it'd be Paci. No third. Lou. More gamble ordered is arson Vangere fifth because he said he's back in January. He said he's trying to be baking in he'll coach the French national team next probably thinks I think sociable Roberto Martinez in the running Josie Marino's names on here. Louis van house in here. David Moyes, probably said, he he's interested shabby Alonzo's names listed he really managing though. No. I mean, I imagine that would be where he'd start your love. Hell start. Don't I ever God damn? Neil Warnock's names on their five hundred to one I'm betting five dollars. Neil still Sam on that fucking. Neil one five dollars. Checker and you get five hundred to one odds odds jacker hat bet fair and Patty power. You putting bullshit leg that on your website deserve to. I mean, this website should be closed. And how can you? That would be my favorite thing ever slap in the face derail. Matric that's almost as big as life in the face is getting dick smack five one by parcel out. The new warn limit your team. That's tough. If near one becomes manager Neil Warnock tattoo Ribaud. He said he said he said it all way he's on the Rick that was that was classic. Oh, it was. It was an interesting game. I will say that ended up being not I would say it was it was closer than scoreline would suggest as stone ass. Whooping? Syria will go real quick to Syria Napoli Romo ended up one one one one draw actually shocked goals in that lots of yo lost three zero at home to inter inter the good team watch out for them. When asleep have iron one again there. Maybe they're starting to get back in their form of sympathy. They got a lot of injuries though. So I'll just this t- and wait keep seven keeps up, and what was the game with a million goes buyer and Verda six to by eleven verte crazy prey on as as a blade brimmerton and also Timur Sega, he's dead and Markle Royce know that. Was which Alba? Thanks, Gunar German true Guteres over here, nothing. But nothing, but talk so last we will go MLS. So we talked about we'll talk about it was with Julian that Atlanta ended up filling their pants on a game that they should've won. No doubt about it. But they lost big to aunt Lanta. It's obviously a barstool bumped from Bono the New York rebels did their thing they they beat Orlando team. That's you know, rolled over and died longtime ago, the the so that supporter shield is gone to New York red bulls. I'm still I still think right? I still think Atlanta's the I don't know if they are the betting favorite. I would take eight Lanna to to win the championship this year the year said this last week, and they lost promptly. So I do remember that the other ones who team shit the bed this this week? It was Atlanta, obviously and Ella. Galaxy all they had to do was win at home against a totally shit Houston team headed by sixty minutes up to now. Will do nothing. They still somehow the fact gives let on the players us to kill somebody pass to he he must have gone back in the in the locker drag. It makes me happier though. And a lot of galaxy fans that I want to to not enjoy anything there being a rebel. Galaxy lived over there. I did I went to a lot of games that that that arena and beautiful place. But revolution. I don't forget wing. Landfill. Forget so last at least we have the league on lay classic Lassus wrench CEO home to say like classic, and we practiced and we got it lake classic. So we will talk about that with the I guess the president and co founder co co president and founder of Newark supporter, PS GE's disease and all of that the game real quick. I think we talked about pretty sure we talked about a little bit. It was it wasn't a great game. But now we got into that. I think Bobby sloppy win for PS G. And all you need to talk about his Imbaba. All you need to talk about his Imbaba. That was incredible. What an amazing nineteen. Did. You guys realize that nineteen people forget that coming off the bench then five. Five minutes later scoring role torture. It was good in that the atmosphere to the at the bar with so much fun. I don't as you'll see when listening to that. Tell us about his experience on joy. Again before we sign off. Thank you again to PS g even just for the interview that you're about to hear. But for the day that it clearly sounds like we had. Yeah. Yeah. We had an amazing time. Here we go out. I'll definitely be back. Are we are back? Sam's. Are we have a extra special guests with us here to finish out the show? We have Julian the president and co founder am I read on that president kufo. President found co president founder close enough memory's not Senator these days of the. Parry lay g supporters a man. So welcome welcome. And thanks for joining us here on the podcast here. We are here to talk about the game that literally just got done the lay classic as we like to say in America. So Mark say to clarify for those Americans that. What what what late last week? Look. Classic. Good accent. Like, it can imitate it. I I I studied Fred this is by the way on the Mike, but I studied French no shit. Okay. That's beside the point, and we lit lessee, mice say PS. Gee, we were invited to the fischel PS chief fan club in New York City. It was incredible. And this is the head of the funding fan base. Yep. He's the he's the for arsenal fans that are listening. He is the Robby of the PS d don't even don't discredit him like that you guys. Did you guys have a good time? We did. Can I ask off the with? There's no video. It's a podcast so Madeira. I'm wearing I'm wearing a they will be from actual time wearing I'm wearing. No, there's from actual vent. I'm wearing a light blue PSD scoff, which is keeping meal where the Bud Light slow and we got drawn or the bud lights flown. Probably. Great. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you for coming on. Welcome to lake classy is quantum kick. Soccer pocket. So for those who don't know it's PS G and Marseille its biggest biggest Darby in France's at not. That's right. It exactly up as a lot of history at Marseille today at Marseille PSG came out 200 winners close Bob as the only gone. The fact ages the fact that you're eighteen and you're he might be word comes on the kid comes on. He's like eighteen nineteen old years. He comes on scores a goal, and he's worshipped by the planet at nineteen eighteen these gray, squirrel champion. He's a girl. He is. He is all champion is incredible player. Extremely extremely mature. For his age. My say put really good side too. And that the first half was like kind of imbalance like fan. Arce had the great almost maybe the better the better chances at the very least. So before we get. So let's let actually let the expert tell us about his takeaways from this game before we actually what do you think critique is how did thank you for coming on? So guys. Thank you, actually, love barstool. So thank you guys for me on what I would say is I have p is she definitely not play up to its potential and Marseille did did pretty solid and they had a number. I think they actually had more scoring chances PS and second half. Honestly, it's so simple. But by pay coming into the game changes everything and he needed one chance got it right through the goal player goalie's legs right right through in. It was it weren't when I mean that goal changed everything because at that point PS she was in such advantage where they they felt the momentum. And obviously PNG score. The game. But you get some say go for it go for now just to just to pick a back off what you were saying it was it was I felt like it was an even balance. But we all teams it wasn't. There wasn't any standout the and there was no standout open chances. That were missed great in, you know, saying, yeah. The whole game though. I felt that way it was even until they came on the team on in each as we as easy and every champion incredible. It's incredible. I mean, he is world champion. But that's why you pay. You'd eat. They did. But let's his his his friend. Jack leads the ones he did for the national team. Congratulations. You know, it's fine to see that international stuff. They play once every two months. It's awesome. But he's coming onto the biggest game in the French league. The they're the biggest team it's the rivalry with Marseille. And he comes on any changes game instantaneously they were zero zero and comes on the snow versus Chelsea this is the the big game on the to begin the year we and fail, and I'm not gonna come out on that. But they showed up for this game. And for PS. She fans, it's huge. Why was he rested actually witnessed a very good question? I don't I don't I don't have an answer that was passed him about aches. They didn't take Vanni then play. Wasn't on. There was on the bench. He came off on the Coveney was injured. So that's that's Z understand that exactly do you think they decent. They took him a little too lightly. Bubby known not by not playing them up by not playing Repco. You know, playing a good team a good eleven I mean, but not a great eleven. Do you think that they took it a little lightly? I can't I can't imagine. They did they were saying that they could they could control Marseille with the average above average team. And they realize you know, what our Marseille was really showed up. They honestly I showed up they played played well enough they played really well. And then and then I think the coach realizes I can have get the superstar. We need him. And each against definitely I would I would like knowledge in terms of midfield. I midfield Marseille in the first half. Louis Kosovo is a PS g quality player at Marseille like Louis Kosovo is a tempo. Dictator a very important player and somebody that PS g didn't have an answer for very early. And then as the game went out, honestly, the superstar started to take over and the wing place, the dictate the tempo and the forwards tempo, but I will say Mars, I all closer to the mic. I'm really sorry. I put deuce and Mikey's so far away. You probably have not loud enough. Logan. Do you hear Logan? Dear I hear barely. So I know you gotta get close awaiting lip kissing the Mike. If you talk about Marseille, the one player that you pull Mikey from today. The one player, you would take I know my Mike's closer than you are Louis cassava. Like, he says Louis Cousteau was an incredible. Are you interpreting though? Yeah. Because you're so far away from the mic and Logan knows. And he can see their ways any appreciates. As I point. So better better than the game was actually the atmosphere for me. Most importantly is jeers have a good time. Absolutely this. I am a die-hard arsenal fan. I go to I go to the mecca of arsenal every week while I try to I go close enough to every weekend for to call every weekend. The arsenal maker I go there. And we don't have no drums. We don't have. No. You know? I mean, we had a flare once for Tottenham went on Logan of southern producer fires last Kennard Logan's Pence magician behind the behind the scenes these magician, and he he was with us today. He's on his doing everything for today. And I appreciate that. We the only time I've seen anything crazy anything actual football atmosphere like was our snow vicious Tottenham a guy brought a flare to the far. So what I was the firearm girl. Hey, did we will kicked out? What I will say is incredible atmosphere at the PSD bar. It was it was awesome. They gave me the me a sculptor. Are you came by the way the scarf? You're you're banging the drum. I did which is which is an honorary piece of legal big honor. And I have the scoffed too, and I'm an honorary PHD fan. I it's hard not to be coming on my second soccer to that was actually an amazing atmosphere. It was it was it was if we're actually being FU will being honest. It was ever since I've been here in America. It's been the greatest interpreted, atmosphere wise, fair were ninety straight of singing cats. Or it's none of that. Where where it's only they only do it when they score. And all that. It was awesome. Look is. I started the club in two thousand six and at that point literally PSU that point was almost in the second division. Okay. Away all knife. So those e we were literally away seriously. That's exactly right. We were one away from if not a last minute goal to save us. We women the second division in France. And so I sort of the group in two thousand six I two years. It was hell and now obviously had I mean, you had the involves you how big investors fairness. The oil. But let's be let be. Lots of money not being the big money's brought in big bucks into the French league, which has been huge for us. And and the follow up is that you've had a lot of people that are very very passionate fans. And it's more of a European. Yes. Yes. The French league has received a lot of money, but it's a European trend. It's definitely European trend question. Rush me. But what I would say is that you guys first hand is thirty forty five minutes before the game. Even started packed people. It was packed and people were singing the whole time and for us as as fans from when we were kids that is what we wanna live. That's it's the Oltra culture where we wanna we wanna be as if we were in the stadium. We wanna be there. You were saying the flares, you know, between arsenal. Chelsea was like that kind of thing where you just it it just it's exactly and frosted such an amazing feeling, and you just you just sing for ninety minutes. It's natural. And it comes it. Just. And look what regardless PSE one today, whether you can say they deserved. I think they deserved. It was a close game. Especially till the end was a close game. But regards whether they want or not we would have been there the whole time singing. And when I started the club for me was I wanna get a bunch of PSE fans in a bar together singing nonstop for ninety minutes, and that's all that mattered. That's what it was. So I don't wanna I I this is SAM's podcast, and I don't want to hijack it. But I just wanna make one quick comment before I had it to Sam which I find impressive about PS G as you guys. You guys got your which I hope I hope this is where the trend is going with European football clubs. You guys actually got the backing of your club to do what you're doing here in the states now, which is why I assume that's why you invited us. I mean, I may be wrong. But that's why we we heard about you glitter. There was I I think it was. Talking before the podcast. I think it was like eight to twelve cities making up the numbers right now. But there was this was going on around the country wasn't just New York hundred percent often PS. Yeah. I think they have one to that one in Chicago via. Gee that they realize. Montreal in Canada up north from us. So we'll be launching six three years later. No nine there was the guys Montreal. And then and then came came in came and today, actually officially Toronto and Quebec City that the official officially recognized clubs, but you've always had policy fans in all these cities that have been big fans. It's now question of getting these guys. Officially right admits out I would like to see that from other clubs. I like the fact that you'll club is getting volved out like to see that from my own plump where these days. Yeah. The we we I mean, we have used fan Kuch that we in every city we have flank clubs that we fill up every day when we play, but I would like to see the club. Backing let the fact that you guys a messing with us as barstool sports, and you know, hopefully shows. When they do come here on preseason. Hopefully, we can get to talk to people like, Bob and all that, you know. To see. It's awesome to see for growth. It's for growth of the game in the United States. It's it's great to see credit is president PSG, incredible other. There's other ones that really understand the US is is the time to get in right now. And they're and they're and they're giving it to go. So they definitely deserve a lot of credit. But today like I haven't had that much fun watching the game. And it's crazy compared to like a compared to watching a game, you know, any game any sport in in any country. I mean when for ninety minutes, you got goals like that was fucking awesome Novoye beyond the fact that I was sick for last week. I have no voice right now for spending for two hours. And there was I'm covering be right now. Yeah. That's your Harvard and be true. I will speak to that. We might have gone overboard. Video video will show. So much fun. We were treated not to sell out my own club. But now. So much fun. And honestly, we bring a being you were in the middle. We were we were sitting chatting with the drumming the medals. I was the love. If you're if you're an American and you watch Premier League on Sundays or you read Sam or your van or listen to podcast or anything like that. If you have an opportunity to pick a club, right? If you find yourself in that weird position. We don't have spoilt. You don't pick on him. Don't big on his. Party. I mean you can attest don't on them. Don't fake. But I will say from the like from like an enjoyment standpoint. And from an event standpoint sorry Sam PS GPS. She put on quite like Sam I taught him. No. It was great. It was great. It was just a lot of fun. The funniest thing was everybody in the entire bar was facing the TV's on the wall. And the only person facing the other direction was the caucus man in the building Mr. barstool Sam was facing fall audience the to ease. Racing. The audience Logan running the cameras they were facing the audience. Like, hey, guys. I know you're here for me. But I want you to watch me while you watch this game is so false anyone about that ridiculous. But don't even acknowledge it. So I've got a question. You got you guys. You guys are every game. You're out there every away game and watch. Jay, Marseille, Marseille, PS Jesus. Big Darby photos, people that don't know French football Marseille Piz, g Lassie he he's a big city in sort about asking what about PSG versus Dijon. Great great great city. Great city nam. John mustard, but John. Champagne Quentin questions of an asteroid. Asking is it like that the fan club is like that every game. So what I would say. So there's two things one was as the fan club as a fan club. We meet for every single game. Okay. Whether it's at nine AM later, it's four PM ledge. We were there every single time. Now, there's in French we say for the friends who for the fans would come for mass Aor for the when the France plays in the World Cup in the final. We call them the foot. Six foot takes the fans had come when it's the big game. When you're playing great. It's like plastics. No like cat. No. No. It's the run. It's it's it's the run up in the the fan. When of your team's doing great you go to every single game. It's great. But when you're doing great awesome. They disappear. And there's a core. We call him the them the PanAm hellfire ze. Lapan the hell fighters. Nice. I gave you as background, but I'm not going to pay. Is is telling you that every game every game. We are there. Whether it's fifteen twenty of us at eight or nine AM the morning or for Maxine when there's two hundred fifty guys in beer everywhere and singing nonstop where on Monday, they go to work, and they literally don't have a voice when they go to work to their boss. It doesn't matter frost. We have a core group of guys. And that's that's the most important thing where we're family for the other guys who come to like today. It's great. It's amazing. But you're welcome them. We welcome them. Of course, it's a big family. But there's a corker guys that you you you've built, you know, years of tradition, and that's what soccer's about that's where friendship and everything. That's that's alternately. What you guys you guys? Love. Is is you guys love your club. But you guys love your club. Because there's number of people that you guys respect you enjoy watching game four, and regardless of whether they're in first or in twentieth. You'll be there. Say I love Anna hate my club. But other than that, I grew. I what I would say is I hate you'll call outs. I hate you yours and Logan Liggett Amedure smiling at us the magician behind the c o. We don't even know what's going. We have is you. Low. For Dada, willow. Go soon enough soon enough, just let's just say thank you to leeann nowhere put us up and for coming on of by. Thank you. Because you're always welcome. You know that create it. Oh, wait, what am I back? Take you up on that way. Do we hang out to hang out the fan club where where's it at football in on can come Philp factory? It's part of the leading our thirty third street between fifth and six everything. Penn station was it was very convenient for me to get off the patient. And I and I walked real was and I'm a pretty blam appre blank for that doesn't like her. I'm a Cadillac guy that doesn't that doesn't like Cadillac football players. I don't like my football place Cadillac, but I can be a Cadillac guy. I'm a black guy with a Perm that I gotta maintain walking in the fucking rain to go to this legends bar in. It's very close to Penn station out care of that downstairs an hour before the game standing-room-only chanting, only if you wanna come. If you don't give it. Was a neutral today. And in the end, they turned me into one of those. If you live in New York Skaff and your soccer fan, and you don't have a club or you have nothing to do if there's a Sunday or a Saturday. You wanna come out to show anyway? They have very simple. We wanna bring the environment that you have in Paris the back. They pose to New York and be blue on me, don't work, and they go. What did I just come into? Yeah. That's. Love that. That's what they want to do it so watch. Oh, we might be back. Got to be careful. Sam gets another flight out. Come one hundred percent back to that bar. Thank you that. It was worth. Thank you so much and best of luck. This season will keep an eye on NPS. Yeah. Obviously will more guys at valley banks wrench with that means. But okay, I will take care.

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Caught Offside: The Photo Shoot

Caught Offside

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Caught Offside: The Photo Shoot

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It's also one of the insufferable things about you is is your relentlessness when you want something you are persistent and you are relentless Klis correct and oftentimes it gets things done oftentimes it. It destroys relationships. I thought well that's true. I think it's worth noting though that ed the people wanted as well it's not just me. I didn't get a single message from anyone. Plenty messages. Midweek pod but you ignored you hate the working man. The common man. Another myth perpetuated by with facts. Fake news media We're one one quick thing that only became a problem for me moments ago when I I saw you walk in here. Oh so we're supposed to have this like little mini photo. Shoot after. We're this podcast today. Which is nice so I texted you last night? I guess I said basically. Hey where something that would be good for this. No no no no no and so old in you said was where something you like. I guess so. I thought soccer podcast aware. My Paul McGrath t-shirt. Will you come dressed as you always door abundant shirt button down. Middle-management Middle-management insurance salesman. Well we've had two of these before and each time we've been told essentially to. I didn't think it needs to be said now. Don't Dickey's okay. The air don't care because the point we'll have to rescan. What is the point? We can't have you wearing that shirt with me wearing a normal button-down down. It looks ridiculous. That doesn't we're not doing it. I'm going to tell scope and right now that we're going to reschedule for no. You can't follow instructions so I have to be uniform and by the way we're doing it for photo is that we can sign a couple of fans of requested sign photos which is more than a couple of boost. My Ego did not need but so we're doing this show so we can afford us that we can sign right. That's it it's not a vanity project is just so we can give something quickly away to to people who want that. We're GONNA I want everyone of you to request one now but the point being is if we like if you were to hand somebody a photo of just us no branding on it. Just US US wearing button-down shirt. What would you think you think? That's a big rival to Cellino and Barnes the insurance blower people accident actually really lost your mind. No we are two white guys. When we wear shorts? We are back managers. We are middle managers. We are corporate guys. Were nothing nothing. Why would we not do something football related? Why would you not have told me that beforehand so I could followed suit every time? We've done this before we've been told told to wear button down normal static color shirts you said where you should be like if x but previous photo shoots indicate. Indicate that this is what we've always been told to do if you were going to go so far out of the out of the realm of what we've been told to do before you gotTa tell me. This is going to kill us now. You look. It's a nice doing it. We'll do it next week. Are you serious. One hundred percent a hundred years. Oh yeah I'll wear t shirts. I don't have any problem wearing a tee shirt. I just think it'll look ridiculous if I'm bags tax manager and you are cool guy. It's just a t shirt. It's you even said yourself that we looked like bank managers if you come in and now they can't spend it as no big deal now where to get next week. I don't care by the way. There's nothing wrong with being a bank manager per se if you're in the middle of Iowa and your middle I see what you're doing but you're desperate to push the narrative that I and the complete Geek now and you are cool. I've never injured desperate for these photos to go out there that paint that image. If we're not doing it and I'm GonNa find the coolest thing that I could possibly own For for next week or we could just start the podcast casts. We should've started years ago. I have ordinary white guy podcast. It was distressing when you walk in here. You took your coat off and I said Oh my God. He's he's wearing that. I have a short in my office in midtown. I can go get one not going back to your office and coming back a garrick among all right Let's start out with some of the The Midweek Week action that we've been called in here to discuss that. I have proclaimed must be discussing. Yeah to serve your ego and placate your Liverpool supporters. Not Actually. Nothing unusual really happened yesterday. Liverpool destroyed a team in crisis. And you need to pound on your chest because your people want to hear. Listen if you're going to be RC for this whole podcast. I'm GONNA leave you sitting here in your shirt and you can talk about loans and mortgage rates and everything else that you're Boston to talk about. Nice is not why I'm doing it. We got a complaint. This morning I woke up at six thirty and my phone notification Asian and some guy goes. You don't talk about the League's anymore and you don't talk about the bottom half the primarily anymore and I'm like well I said that news dictates things so you know marina going to spurs is going to take up a lot of our bandwidth but Everton earned the relegation zone. I think we bourbon fairmount about them right. I think this is important to talk about Everton right now because It was jarring yesterday to see it. I knew because I'd seen enough for them. This season. What some vote full games? There is about three or four times times. which is that's a lot of a bad team? And there was always moments where they were in games and they usually shot themselves in the force or they just weren't very good but seeing them against Liverpool's second-string attack and seeing Liverpool caught them open so easily balls calls over the top diagonal balls now Liverpool make better teams than Everton. Look bad put Everton. I feel Kinda helped himself the the way that silver set the site. Oh Pandur was okay. It was extensively five at the back he played with three centre-halves and okay. You're going to be tight. You're going to be compact. No they were actually wider and more open than ever before no Liverpool's ruins from deep are tougher most midfield stop. Everton didn't even get close to doing it like really you're wondering if if Salon and for me no had started on the midfielder been changed a little bit. Would this have been seven nil at halftime. Well I think that's actually unfair to the performance. You got from Chicanery Guy. I mean Salaam. Could've come in and done much better than those. That's fair that's fair. That's fair lamb when I'm watching that especially the the second goal the security goal because I even texted you afterwards because he scores the goal and you can tell that Everton are in complete and total disarray and every member of the back line is just looking at one another and pointing and like hands on hips just perplexed like and I'm thinking about where fault fault lies in that because like like you said if they're going out there with five in the back like Marco Silva is clearly telling them to be I would think to be compact and do not let Liverpool sneak and so then I see this quote from Mason Holgate after the match And he's basically asked how much blame the players take and he said we too and and look he he kind of has to say this but I actually believe what he says here. He says we take pretty much all of it. The managers told us what we need to be doing and we have not done that we played well in patches of the game in but wrote Route one balls are things we should be dealing with and we have not done that. But He Marco Silva is GonNa take all the blame. He's going to get fired like the writing is on the wall but these players players are culpable because things like what you saw that second goal that secured scored a to make a two nil like. That's embarrassing defending a Marco Silva is not telling them to you play like that. Yeah and and you know you're right because when when manny gets the ball and he's he's facing sediba he goes was in sight and the idea of bringing him inside the right thing to do but he supposed to go into traffic and there's no one there and we can talk about systems we can talk about tactics. I'm actually coming around to the opinion that basically what holgate his and it's on the players but further that the players aren't good enough you know I can't think of a team really that would require Mica kings not good enough centreback to be at Everton are to be where Everton wants to be. Jerry mean really isn't either and really what it comes down to is something that I thought was very interested in. It was written by Jj Bull actually which sounds like somebody on being porn name burner accounted for something and he wrote this in the Telegraph no matter or host mart attack Titian are talented coach. Silva has lost his momentum. The funds of lost faith and the players are being beaten by better ones which is where the fundamental tissue lies expectation and desire versus reality. This is a hodgepodge players brought together by three managers now and they're just not good enough yet that's part of the problem if Silva by the time you're listening to this he might be out Wash Nausori is in there meeting. Yeah like as we speak. It's not meeting I'm going to be the owner is going to be there. Hey can you turn it round. Yes I don't think he can. Oh was I think now. It's a matter of timing timing like do we wanna do this now or like. I've said repeatedly over the last couple of weeks. Do we want to wait like they played Chelsea this weekend. Is that the right time. So like just this kind of throw everything into even in even greater state of flux but I it Silva is sacked. He'd be the fourth man to suffer that fate since machinery bought a share of Everton in in February of two thousand sixteen Roberto Martinez Round Kumon and Sam Allardyce like you said that we talk a lot on the show about the importance of stability and Everton right now have been sucked down this rabbit hole of instability. And it's it showing especially because like when you lose Lukaku and you wanted then take that cash and spend it on a variety of players will like that's all fine and good but then if you start firing managers who bring in that many new players like clearly that guy's is bringing those guys in because he's got something in mind and then you fire that guy but and so what are you left with. It was it was it was interesting though to see the the second in gold. They've got I think Michael Keane school was a good finisher centreback with Silica Fluke but the the second goal was actually a good move and I looked at and I thought there is there. There's something oscillate between the two points. This is a hodgepodge of players. But if you look at the the move they put together. You're like maybe maybe there is something in this team and this manager or a manager can get more of them than they're getting that remains to be seen. Well I agree with that like you know. Maybe some results have been harsh on Marco Silva but ultimately this Everton team player for player is not a relegation team and they're in the drop zone if the season ended today so oh yeah in that sense. He is not getting the most out of these places but he's also you know not to make excuses. Everyone deals with this. But Everton don't have a ton of death so when you go out and bring in Adelphe or a jean-philippe give a mean you know I don't Andre Gomez been there but like those are three key injuries to three probable weakened weak out starters us a lot that's a big hit for a club like Everton to take. It's amazing to think that Dave absorbed the loss of Lukaku the last few years and also absorbed the loss of a having absorbed interest again. I mean those are two key positions agents and they've had to take that and they've never replaced the goals and they haven't replaced so far dot midfielder. I'm during such bad state right now. There are like I said they find themselves in the relegation zone after playing at least fifteen premier league matches for the first time since April of nineteen ninety nine when they actually found themselves in that spot. After thirty two matches we should Matin terrifying. Oh my God we should mention that. Firstly Everton being in the relegation spot was where they were in the mid nineties. So imagine fans who've gone through that Seoul. The Moi's years saw the resurgence. And then they're back to this. It must be hard to take especially considering the new ownership and everything that's gone with that We should mention how KLOPP played his hand. Perfectly he needed to get minutes in for guys like Shakira who I hope she carries form blossoms like his hair has have you noticed his hair. Now actually it's very fulsome. I'll look again. Yeah look at him six EXCO and look at the hair now. He's had a bit of Avid Silva regeneration but whatever he was very good getting minutes in for Liliana just shuffling the pack back and low in guys to rest ahead of a busy period. Yeah I can't believe the Derby was the place that this would happen. It happened to be Darby but I think it's more because it was a mid week game like I think this could have been any game and and look here's the other thing about it. This is gonNA sound really arrogant. But you're KLOPP is a hundred percent right when he said what it is that he said after the game when he was asked about it he said we did it because we can do it. How many goals in big big moments does diva Kariya have to score? Before we can see him in their starting eleven and not think of it as decision also WANNA finish diet. I rush was incredible and like he's he's now done this. He scored in a Champions League. Final he scored huge goals. In a Champions League against Barcelona's it's not crazy to see him out there against Everton. It still shocks me that he comes up with these. He is the David Faircloth of this era for Liverpool where he scores big goals and in big games but generally he wouldn't make your starting eleven. He's just that player. Amazing to me. I don't think he's going to go. The definition of Supersede Score fifteen twenty season. He's just not going to do but when he scores it will matter and he. I think he's composure. Composure last night was was brilliant. Frugal yes I I. I don't even see it as a big deal anymore when they and by the way like okay. They made five changes. We mentioned Riga. Who I don't even look like that much of a downgrade in grade But like they still played with their all world fullbacks and Virgil Van Dyke and Saudi-omani. Who who I also wanted to talk about? 'cause I I now look at him. As as being the best player on that team with the possible exception of Van Dyke but I should say the best attacker on that team because he is Added an element. That's crazy not think so either I'm saying it 'cause he's added an element to his game. That I don't think has been there in quite the way it is now which which is a general playmaking ability to guess four assists now only had one last year which is a low bar that pass for the for the first school. Yeah was was sublime perfectly-weighted I and then the second goal as well lamb the way he set that up so after taking an incredible pass from Trent Alexander Arnold in stride now just kind of grown accustomed to him being able to do that routinely. That's what that's just the classic Liverpool goal But for Saudi-omani Audio Monitor. Now not just be a goal score. Did score in this game to probably should've had more but like to just be a general playmaker for everyone around him. I really think he's the biggest threat going forward of anyone on that team. We should probably play that second goal where he's absolutely crucial in setting it up. Now there's space ahead of Alexander who spit it come on reverse Mondays him back. Saudi sectarian so so sweet sixteen can never really was a joy to watch right now now an absolute joy when they're in that Kinda mood. Yeah it's It's hard for me not to gloat. No it's not when they were four on five shots in the first half. was that right. Yeah I mean they're so efficient Yeah and you're right it could have been. It really could have been more Everton. Were probably really fortunate for. It's only have been what it was. Yeah Bad Times for one Liverpool Club. truly amazing times for the other thirty two unbeaten for Liverpool now This is crazy this is just a casual stroll to the finish line. Hope so not sure not sure Life is a way of throwing curveballs. A baseball man. Once told me what baseball men though no one ever said Shaw Walter Mean Book Revenue Beer One night and he said. Jj life throws a curve balls. And I said book your drunk. Wow let's see. Can we continue or do you have more gloating that you'd like to. I don't and also I have like Everton because they didn't grow up in the city and do I should make an emission right now So back in the day in the nineties and the eighties. You could right away to professional clubs for trials. No usually you'd have a supporting letter from your schoolboy club and and you would be a player of note if you were going to pick up a trial but often you know maybe you would be offered a trial you if you could send videotape or something. I wrote my letter when when I was ten years of age. Guess who I wrote. I wrote to clubs in the Pro Liverpool the primarily. nope I looked at it and I thought I'm never getting Liverpool's squad I I never even thought about being a youth player I thought about well. There's no space for me in the senior team a ten years of age. I've got a lower my expectations so I wrote to clubs. You're GonNa make me guess. Go very easy guesses Tottenham Tottenham Hotspur and so they were of a standard. It could slot right in at Everton so I wrote the letter probably in Crayon Pencil I think I know I wrote it in pain and I sent them away at Everton this I. I don't think this would happen. These at Everton sent me back this on headed North Club. Notepaper these lovely letter saying thank thank you for your interest in playing forever foot up. Unfortunately at this moment in time we have our full of allocation of youth players. We wish you the very best in your in in your pursuit of a career in football signed by the club Secretary I was like. Oh that's amazing and taught him did the exact same thing except taught him was one lane. We're not accepting trailers at this. They were very businesslike very business but every they took it seriously. Oh it was amazing so I have if those two letters somewhere at home or I think my mom threw them out when I was in college. which is really breaks my heart so yeah? I just think it's good that you were forced to deal the rejection early a ten. Let's see. We continue now. Manchester United Hand Josie Marino. His first defeat as Tottenham manager frustrating for Spurs just because not because they didn't deserve to lose Manchester United. Were clearly clearly the better team worry There's no question about that It's only frustrating because of the two goals that were actually scored like the the first Marcus rash goal while a good strike by him. was a very if you look at the the X G. The expected goals chart on specific goals. Yeah it was a very low x g goal that was scored it especially when you factor in the fact that he got a hand to it. Can I make kiss for Gazzaniga there. Okay that you are so right. That's low extra go. You shouldn't be beaten your post law like that but descrip- if you look at where it skipped off the turf at the last minute. That is a nightmare for going strong wrists hands of Stone Hands of Oak. Yeah I know I know what you've done a good job filling in but he has yielded a few of those which against a good team. You can't afford do and the second goal I mean. Look orienting absolutely roasted tire Ashford. One thing it was that was a beautiful part of it but then like the Soco penalty realty and I know it went too far and to me like it was handled correctly. It was inconclusive. It was ruled a penalty on the field and I it had to remain that way and it was just it was. I'm going to go under the assumption. If I'm wrong than apologize to Mussa Soco at the first opportunity that I get but like I'm going to go under the assumption that he did step on Radford's foot and if he did it's brainless because where's Radford going. He's at full speed and he's a yard from the embassy. Watch Paul Ryan. He probably would made night so I like just general general awareness and I can't kill Soco for it because I think sometimes he's making up for some of surgeries issues. Defensively and think Soco is being asked to do some things that maybe he's not necessarily responsible for but like just general awareness cost them. It costs them three points in a situation where they they really really could've used even and just one point there but perhaps the united really props to rash for`de He was sensational. I think only Gomersall said it was the best game. He seen him play Probably COULDA IT HAD MORE COUSIN IGA flicked one up on the crossbar that Radford hit beautifully from about twenty five yards outright strike. He was it was a man of the match performance an undeniable one and Huge huge for united as they. Now prepare to face Manchester City. Can I read something to you because I want your take on. Obviously I didn't get to see all of that gambling I only sell highlights highlights later on So I can't really get a few for Daniel Story. wrote this on football. Three six five. But Lads taught him that was as bad as anything produced in in the final throes of Maurizio Pacino's ran. They were bereft of ideas and dependent on individual inspiration instead of Anne clearly devised attacking plan not met created if the chance for another onto Lucas more laid on Human Sans Fifty. Second Minute effort. The truth is that this defeat was no more down to Marino than the three victories victories. That preceded it the mystical bounce engendered by managerial change effectively boiled down to superior finishing a facet impossible to coach in two weeks. Look anyone that thought that this new manager would show up and instantly cure. Whatever was wrong with this club is that's delusional So yeah part of it is new manager bounce part of it I think was players who were underachieving for whatever reason under previous manager. I think it's a little bit unfair to say any of the success of the past three games down to just a new manager bounce He he said it's knocked down to that he said that's what I meant. But like part of a two is quality of opponent like you can say what you want about Manchester United. But I think they're establishing publishing themselves right now is one of the best four teams in in England that would mean having to knock one of the current top four out well okay. They're not better than Liverpool and not better than Leicester United Establishing themselves not better than city and I guess could come down to maybe Chelsea or united for who do you think is fourth worth best. You've lost me here okay. So who were you. who were your United Right? No better than like glassdoor better. I didn't what did I say. Hey right I said. They're not better than LEAV- liberal esther no city and then I think at some point we'll find out if there's some sort of you think you think they're progressing under social you think they're going to well all right. Maybe not because a lot of people think that there's plenty of people who think that they the UT's bringing in down the line. Everything will reap rewards. I'm not I'm just asking. Is that what you're saying. I don't think I would go that far to say that. But I do think so tottenham. She'll be beaten them then but I'm not willing but that's not what I'm saying. Either I think that's the point that I'm trying to make in this that they're muskie fashion much of a muchness between them. They're kind both in the same boat. Two weeks ago Tottenham or an utter disaster. So is it like that nuts to think that spurs would go in to would change managers but everything else remains the same go into Old Trafford and struggle by the way only lose by one like I think the general feeling considering the way Aston Villa played at Old Trafford. The general feeling coming out last weekend was that this united project is going nowhere on that. They're in trouble. There are the people like I said that believed that social is doing doing a good job in terms of integrating the Youth I think most people yesterday expect Tottenham to win there and do a job on them and they didn't i. I don't know who I if that's the way you felt. That's one thing but that is me personally going into that game. Never you think they do a job on. I mean win win. I mean even under the best of Times Tottenham have had a hard time going. Old Trafford MOCHA and winning I didn't like I felt for for that to have been the expectation. I felt that. Here's what I felt. Shit a manager on shaky ground complete lack of confidence even in his press conferences the teen teetering on the edge I thought that marina with his like swagger and brigade and that what he dome with the team so far in terms of winning games would march back into his old stomping ground and like I said do a job in them That's what I would say. Two things in response to that one if there was ever ever going to be a game that united would get up for it would be facing their previous manager at home. I think marina would be somebody that would inspire united to come mountain and really kind of want to show him. You know that we're better than whatever it is. I don't know and then the other thing that I would want to say about this and I don't have the stats in front of you. We've talked about how the the metrics like kind of the the exact opposite of what we said about Arsenal last year. Where when they went on? That unbeaten run the metrics didn't support the fact that they were actually that good whereas with united the metric support the fact they are probably better than some of the bad luck that has gone against them So Oh like whether or not you want to say. That's a sign of improvement under this manager. I don't know because the results are what they are. But I I also don't think that united are as bad as navy navy. One total would say Plus like getting Mukta Mix hominy was huge yesterday for them and he's coming back from injury now in Seoul Shar talked about how he's he we'll hidden returning and playing like that he's going to become undrivable for them. No that was a different Fred that we saw yesterday whether that's a one off. or whether or not he's actually going to become a good player for them. They haven't even really had a chance to play with Paul Papa. WHO's really their best player? Him Arash Bird so like I'm not no no I'm not as down on united as maybe you or probably the majority of people watching the more How good was that Deliang legal? So I think it's his second best goal that he's ever scored behind the the one. He scored against Crystal Palace which was just amazing. Yeah but if you're somebody who thought it was better than that I. I wouldn't fight too hard on a taken one BASSAC and you'll go to the game and then turning and on the half volley beating in it and advancing to here. Yeah was for a ball to come down from that height. Yeah and for you to hit it in close quarters as perfectly as he did like just strong enough to get it away from the defenders but not too strong that the keeper that the hair can rush out and get it in time and then still have the composure to Kinda like flick it. In over the keeper it was It was a brilliant trillion goal. And it's a sign of the form that he's right now 'cause he's he's on another planet since Marino has come in with that that's definite he sees picked up his so clearly their best S. player. Right now yep for sure which is which is huge. Unfortunately I tried to enjoy in that goal with you here. We go and I just I can't I can't anymore with you. Do you really want to go down this road. No but I wonder going to go. I just WanNa say my piece okay. Okay because I don't get to say mine no absolutely not right He scored that goal. And I texted you. I said in all caps because I was just so happy and excited headed and just trying to live my best life I said Deli Alley is on another planet right now. Yeah you're right back a goal for the ages which is an is von vs actually folsom Radian. I actually having a moment together. That is that immediately followed by a solitary text message that says has but I thought up here we go here. We go vars pissing on the moment. Oh I hate it and I just I- analysts. I can replace a handball. That wasn't there. I mean I don't I like I can't convince you how this effects acts fans in the stadium. Poss- I'm more seeing defected has on players now with their non celebrations waiting for the call to be given that the goal is green lighted. I can't I guess I'm just GonNa put it down because they don't want to be mean or nasty and I don't. I don't like try and push my views on you you. I'M GONNA put it down to that delays in. US sports are so prevalent dot. You just don't care nor don't notice in soccer and I would say to you that no-one celebrated that gold differently. Like I keep hearing that people aren't celebrating goals I'm not seeing that the the away and was deafening when he scored that goal. It didn't sound like anybody supporting Tottenham yesterday. Cheer that goal any differently than in a pre Var world. Yeah Yeah and look. They looked at like to me. That was the example of how supposed to work. It was really close. There's part of me that thinks he might have actually used his arm inadvertently okay but we know what. The rule is any part of the arm. That's used score a goal. Then it's taken off so it was looked at it was inconclusive. So they went with what was on the field. I didn't think it was that overbearing. During in how long they look I thought it was trying to think of. It's fifteen seconds. It's too long. Here's where I am with you. You know how much I love band of brothers. I almost recite the series by heart. But there's a scene and one of the characters Cobb private Cobb. He's he's had it. It's near the end right. And he's just had it and he's going on and on this where they're on on the edge of the the patrol. It's the episode they go on patrol and it's like an unnecessary patrol and a and a another member of their platoon has just died right and they're just like again he's like they all know. Conditions like this sucks. You know the the conditions are bad for everyone but this this exchange happens you drunk trooper leave me alone. Answer the question. Yes sir. I am drugs drunk. sukey getting tired of patrols Scott. Shut up it's boring okay. That's your top and Martin Sarda certain Martin. Who says that Tom? That's where we're at now. Like yeah I came on this show a few weeks ago. I said there's problems with it like we all get that. No you don't get like instant. It's your continuous moaning. When we've all come to the realization that there there are issues that sure but like even when it's used in proper way the moaning continues and I just? I'm going to block our account. I can't see your tweets anymore. I can't do it. The moaning like why Texas. Oh what are you what are you talking. But I saw your tweets. Also we saw the tax first and then I repeated it. I think you moaning about me morning way worse than the original. Let you spend been this no you I. I'm not stopping. I have principals. We're all aware of what they are. Who who are? Are you trying to like. WHO's mind? Are you trying to change at this point. I'm glad you brought some flavor to this conversation. We haven't really had a band of brothers Var discussion Anything anything else from From yesterday I guess I wanted to lease mention. Sit He for first of all the city debunked the idea of being a top side aide on burn leaping until place to go to as. They absolutely ran ransacked them. What a goal? If we're GONNA talk about great goals I thought Gabriel j seuss's from that he just sort of like robin around Roger Google to Oh Jesus goal was yeah. T- MIATA was a brilliant goal and a much needed goal for him. I would think after the weekend as well where he will probably feel he should have scored the winner. Yeah he he played well he scored a couple I haven't seen maybe you have but I had not seen anything indicating that a guerra will be back for the Darby this weekend. No I don't think so. I know when the when the injury initially happened PAP it said it would take a miracle for a Guero to be ready for the United Game. So I'm GonNa go under the assumption especially with Jesu. Jesus plan as well as he did. Mid Week that it'll be him again a pass grown denote a win against boreman was was interesting and expected because palliser. I Dunno Roy Hodgson you can say what would you like the job. He's done there and I will talk more about next week. We don't have time but it's has been pretty phenomenon Wolves beating West Ham. You'd you'd never think West Ham we're GONNA put to back to back results going kind of showing what an aberration. The weekend was an. I don't know how pellegrini survives the the mood amongst it's the natives in ace. London is not good. Yeah and Lampard's Chelsea beat Aston Villa. Two one lampert. Talking about Christian appealed sick was was pretty interesting too. Yeah Yeah really impressed. I think he'd climb ready well since he got himself into Tame abani goals carried it onto foamy score and He go more. I think we'll go player in Christian is is someone that's really exciting us. But when you say these type of player I think avenue last night in the modern day as you said him and he said that quality. And then you say that there's another level which goes an absolute assists and he's only abilities to go onto the extra level. which is the top level? Doc of of world football. The minute is is doing really well when a hopefully that'll be an expert the progression Magic Andrew if he does the more solemn method at Roma so more Saleh Allah wants it to work on his finishing outside of training all the time dedicated himself to it so he built he i. Won't they built a pitch but he expanded his backyard and put a goal in and used to pay. You team goalkeepers to come around to his house and practices practices finishing pubic adds that to his game. lampert is a hundred percent correct. A saw A Guy who we've talked about before Arthur cogan on twitter who. I think he's the only one who loves Pulisic more than you and I do. But it wasn't actually his video but I think he either either liked it or re tweeted it. But there's a a basically a highlight reel video of Pulisic from this game look some of the highlights that they take are pushing the limits limits of like definitely. Yeah like you do see the one thing that I take away from watching it when you do see these clips one after another after another other is I think for me. What's become the most admirable trait and Pulitzer game is that he's always looking to push play forward? Yes there's not much lateral movement. It's get the ball and then turn up field whether it be a quick pass Or himself just taking it and driving defenders and the positions he finds himself often are always advantageous towards getting shots off or creating something in front of the goal. It's very very good. It's funny how twitter makes you after all these years watching watching the game makes you think i. Maybe I'm not seeing. Maybe I'm not getting this. Because after the game earlier in the season I thought he had a really fine game on should've had he had an assistant should have had a couple of goals in that game and afterwards Oh Pulitzer kind of worry in all the tweets. You'd like Oh my watching the same game. It's good for Frank Tacoma invalidate my feelings. Yeah Nice if the manager to validate your feelings and one other thing. I did want to mention a couple of weeks ago. We were talking about the Southampton Arsenal game. And I sat here and I was so angry. I said how are south. Anthony not scoring more goals. Look at the chances they're getting and and and you then said well. This is what we've always said about them. They just they don't have finishers. That's always been the problem Well like just as soon as we said that Danny Aines has now decided to become. That Guy I think it's now four straight games that he scored in and he someone that I would say I'm pretty happy for with the SA- his injury past got the chance at a big club Whether it be out of talent or lack of opportunity or injury Never really was able to make any any market Liverpool. You weren't sure where his career was headed now he's at Southampton and now it looks like he's rounding back into the player that Liverpool were interested in the first place. Maybe it's only temporary but but if it is I'm at least happy for him in this I'm very happy firm. And even though he's no longer at Liverpool every time he gets the ball and running for fifty fifty ball or something like that. When I'm watching Downton Sympton I am crossing my fingers see comes out of the tackle okay because that's really what's held them back and it's all good seems score goals? I've a few things that I missed. Monday's pod that I wanNA go through uh-huh you quickly if that's okay. Well I'll tell you what if it's alright with you. How about we take a quick break? No I'm I'm setting the agenda. No no breaks the floor is yours you animal now. Let's do the brain take a quick break when we come back. We got that and A quick what to watch for as well. 'cause there's something from Syria unfortunately not on the field that I want to mention. Oh no we'll be right back guys. This year for Christmas gave her the next best thing to wearing. Nothing at all with soft Silky NUDIE PAJAMAS available. Exclusively at PAJAMAGRAM DOT COM sensuous and smooth noodles pajamas field just like her own bearskin nudist. So seductive to love the feeling of wearing next to nothing at all and you'll love the way they look includes free gift. Packaging and delivery by Christmas guaranteed so visit Pajamagram Dot com today. That's PAJAMAGRAM DOT com back now. On caught offside. Jj the greatest said you have some things that you didn't get to earlier in the week. We never mentioned genius of Jack relishes performance against Manchester United at the weekend and the goal ready scored which was absolutely superb. So at Dean Smith the manager was talking to four four to abolish and one of the aspects that came open. The conversation was he. He is the most foul player in the primarily. Like when when you watch games you're like oh he's always on the ground and he doesn't dive it's just his style. He gets the ball he takes players on and the way he protects the ball. He ends up more often than not winning free kick. So Dean Smith said some interesting I think things I expected him to be the most fold. He protects the ball so well his balances exceptional grip ball carrier. And he gives defenders problems. It seems to be they want to follow him around the halfway line before he gets any further we certainly got four or five of them at an old trafford in the first half. If you watch the Games he has paid for us. You can seize being at a very high level teams will try to stop that if they found him farther up the pitch. Then we've got grit says set-piece routines Grit setpiece takers at its myth. It gives us more of a chance to go and get a goal. He Got Chin by Blues Fan Birmingham supporter last season. Remember that we had our special on that we rose about to say sometimes fans even in come out of the stands to fallon exactly and that didn't seem to bother him either. He gets whacked all the time but he just gets on with I think he I think he sees it as a prize that they they want to kick him. I know he played Gaelic football growing up as a kid. And it's a tough sport. He probably had a few wax and he's learned how to deal with it. He doesn't mourn he doesn't roll around. Eh Get so much kick. You Wonder Point two referees. I remember when my Donald was planned. There used to be articles every week in Italy about we. Well maybe not in Italy but in the general in media saying we need to protect skillful players. More like him rather than having them hacked all the time. So I mean that's essentially where the the the Games gone in that direction. Yeah the TACO from behind has been ruled out. Even if you win it if it's from behind it's yeah so Clean interesting that the second thing I want you to watch a video. Andrew by Standard Chartered and it was released this week featuring some legends. And some I'll pull up. We'll give you the audio not that you'll necessarily be able to tell all right. I want you to watch motion music. Who is that man? Walking down the tunnel. Aw Oh look Bruce Grobbelaar. Job Gomez Milner Melania Norton Henderson rush on the Liverpool dressing room together. Bit Odd Ball. You gave me my belly. I live appeal shoes. I'm a changed my career. Oh it's a privilege this year is in your own on a visit. Oh standard. We believe we should use technology telling talk better. Bob Is Bob Paisley. Who is dead since one thousand nine hundred six? That's D. most important part The legendary Liverpool manager who has been CGI to reappear and meet with a rather strange collection action of of the players some of whom he would managed and some of whom were not even born. So here's the thing about it so you don't like this commercial because you find it creepy. I it's creepy. It's also a bank a bank appropriating. A deadman's is legacy now the family. I've seen the video that Standard Chartered with the family. Where they're get quite emotional? I get emotional on reanimated. A person a loved the one that had died twenty plus years ago. It's very black mirror. I don't know if I like it at all I also what's the point of it. Standard Standard Chartered Wont Bring like create. holograms I mean. They're going for some sort of emotional root right. It doesn't work linking Liverpool's Glorious S.. Passed to their present. Like and Standard Chartered is trying to be the facilitator of all that okay. I guess are probably by facilitating. Oh you mean bask in the reflection. I don't find creepy quite as much as I find the technology troubling. Where are we headed if I could get rid a you and have a CGI guy? Here I would do if your dream come true but like this. I don't know I just worry that. Like people's faces can now so easily be placed on other other bodies. I don't I'm afraid of future crimes that I will be framed for probably with you at the center. You are way too. Bland for crimes Violations parking violations. So you'd think somebody will go to the length of CGI in my face on someone else's body so they can like stay passed the meter by fifteen minutes. Yeah I don't know I I don't I don't know if found a quite as creepy. I just found it a little odd. It's odd and it's odd to see the reaction action to the players to you know. Well it's not Great Act Jordan Henderson. It's not his best work. What about James Miller girding in the background and Joe Gomez genuinely annually just Gomez has the appropriate reaction to see a dead man walking into a locker room what any other observations from earlier in the week Yes so couple of people asked us. Have we seen this yet. I don't watch it but Barcelona matchday. It's called insight. F C Barcelona. Donna is the new official documentary series produced by the teams owned by the studios and distributed by their sponsor raccoon. So we've pods the SODERLUND till I die. We've had Manchester City which was voiced by Ben Kingsley we've had Leeds United's one which was voiced spy. What's the name of the actor from Gladiator Russell Crowe Russell Crowe and this is voiced by John? John Malkovich which I thought was a strange one. Now I've actually watch the clip of Andrew and here. Is John Malkovich who is narrating and translating anything. Massey's halftime speech Massey's halftime speech at Anfield. When they were losing and looks like we're going to blow it like they blew it against roll my last season at this all be coincidence her half then someone went entitled to our plane so I ask you what it's going on? Wow that's intense messy John Malkovich. I don't know what the airplane I was working with the Best I could. That's from conair. Oh you fooled me. That's not actually messy. What's your favorite John Malkovich roll? See if I want to be a D nozzle okay and I'm an swirling my Wi- now and trying to be pretentious. I would say oh. He's wonderful dialing in dangerous liaisons but literally my favorite role of him is is in con Air Cyrus. It's the virus I always. I think they got him. Perfect in in the line of fire just the right. Blend of creepy angry. He is a Weird Ellen. He's a weird dude. Yeah why is he voicing the Barcelona documentary boy. His filmography it just goes on for days is burn after reading good so I saw once there are people who love it who just loved that kind of humor. I thought it was fine. I don't I'm not mad. I saw it. I wouldn't see it again it. You know it's a movie that happened as far as I'm concerned K.. One thing I wanted to mention. Jj from earlier in the week we kinda casually mentioned the Balladur On Monday but we didn't actually know who won yet We were just kinda hinting. That nessie would and he did. But I wanted to mention Meghan repeat. Oh now that we know she did in fact win. So congratulations to her. Yes obviously World World Cup winner. scored six goals at the two thousand Nineteen World Cup. Four of which were go ahead. Goals three of which does bear mentioning were from the penalty spot but nevertheless nevertheless She appeared to well. I don't know I kind of came away from the tournament thing Rose Lavelle was the US best player but Meghan Piano is certainly She has the most important terms goals. Yeah so congratulations to her. Also one fevers award for the best female player earlier. This season so Obviously we're happy when we see. Americans take home prominent awards such as this. So congratulations to Meghan repeal. Certainly two more things. First Thing Sheffi Wednesday they. They are in dire trouble Andrew. They look as if they're they could potentially be relegated by the EFL are docked twenty points which would leave them in the bottom on fighting for their lives in the championship so basically according to the Atlantic the charge against them is that a misconduct charge wjr in the way that they dealt are reported to the NFL that they had sold their stadium so apparently owners now seller stadiums from the club to themselves as a means of moving money or staying within the financial boundaries of the football league so this is from the Atlantic Wednesday lost nearly twenty nearly ten million in twenty fifty two thousand sixteen just over twenty million in two thousand sixteen seventeen. I'm we're heading heading for a pre-tax loss of her own. Thirty five million in seventeen eighteen until they like Aston Villa Derby and reading took advantage of a loophole that allows club's owners to you sell their stadiums or training grounds to themselves to bank a one off profit that can be used to offset losses elsewhere. Wednesday did this by setting their ground to who chancery the owner for sixty million with an official profit on the transaction of thirty eight million. No you cannot in their football league lose. There's there's a threshold. You cannot lose more than a certain amount of money every season right or else you're in trouble. I'm Wednesday. Used this transaction to make sure they stayed within that boundary but apparently the timing in which they reported it to the. NFL is causing some problems and they could be. One of the Sanctions against them could be automatic allegation which is brutal brutal ad history. Changing like whatever their future is like could be it dramatically altered by that decision. When you see what's happened in the football league with bury and Bolton already this year it's it's pretty grim? What's going on down there and finally The Scottish League Cup final on Sunday. It's Rangers Celtic at Hampden Park. How early is there to say co final? Yeah with Rangers just two points behind the table they drew yesterday against. It's Aberdeen. which was I mean a hammer blow? It would have put them top. Yeah I did see I. Don't I mean the result is the result but I think there was. There was some really bad call where the official apologized Stephen Girard over But this feels like a massive one in the rejuvenation of Rangers this is like the sliding doors moment. Should Rangers win and beat Celtic. A Hamden Park on Sunday does not change the trajectory of things. Now that Timmy balance the old firm I would ask do though. Would you not say that Rangers have already been rejuvenated. I know Celtics still kind of own that league but just the fact that rangers so quickly went from where they were to just being too like getting right back to being celtics primary challenge but not but they've never been close. There's never been close tightly risks and feel like this season. It could go to the wire. I know it's early but Rangers look way better than they have in previous One other thing for me before we do the quick what to watch for just wanted to say we're still about a week. Get a half or so away from classical Which I think you'd have to say right now? would be the biggest game of the year so far across Europe with with Barcelona Ram Madrid tied on points. Top LOLLYGAG and severe socio. Dad Bilbao Madrid kind of all nipping at their heels But some not great news for Real Madrid as In Hazard Gareth Bale Marcello are all hurt. Have all recently gotten hurt and some are saying are doubt for that game there's still game before that For each team but I think a lot of people are already looking ahead to just how big that game is. Those are three potentially key players players. That are Real Madrid. Could be without. Yeah some incentives video of bail warming opened a recent game. And he's just laughing because he's getting jeered unlike they asked this is what do we think of this like. What else? What's the right reaction? There is no he can do nothing I should he just be stone. I guess don't face look the way to go. I don't know he's in that he's now in that position where like whatever he does he's GonNa be criticized for it. Quick what to watch for. Yes all right Syria Friday to forty five inter verse Roma A huge game but unfortunately it's more off the field nonsense that has kind of clouded. This one Career Carreira daily sport. the publication Italy their headline for this match Red Black Friday and was accompanied by photos of Roma Lulu Kaku and Chris Small. Aw Jeez I think I mean just the the word that comes to mind for me is just tone death This assist getting saw tiresome. It is the the newspaper they tried to defend it. In a statement saying white blacks yellows to negate every difference is the typical typical massive error of the quote. Racism of the anti-racism said the editorial dot dot makes sense. That's good go wrong with that. They continued the mental rabble of those casual casual moralists black Friday for those who want and can't understand it. It was only a way to celebrate diversity. If you don't understand it is because you can't or you don't want to understand understand. That is the Italian version of what we have in this country. And you know you kingdom of if you say something offensive than going. Oh it's political correctness. Gone Mad no no no. It's just been a little bit thoughtful and careful about what you say. When as regards to other people I think they thought I'm almost uncomfortable? Comfortable even trying to speak for them and getting their head but I think they thought that it work that it would that in some warped way. It was actually promoting like the beauty of diversity. But I don't think it but I don't think he got executed and quite that that it's a Friday lighting these two you guys who have been great players for their clubs and highlighting their race. I think is is probably the mets in reading their statement that I think is what they're trying to say and I think if that is what they were going for. It doesn't come off and we're in a time right now specifically in Italian football where that's just that's just not going to be the way that it's red and I think they needed to know better than that And so once again I mean I don't know man we're getting to a point point where you just wonder like it's our players of Color GonNa want to continue to be going to play for Italian clubs. I feel like that's something that I if it were meets. It's something that I would have to consider considering this week as well. We heard more comments. Which I'm I'm not actually gonNA repeat them by the Brescia owner about by the tally every week? Komodo visually if you can if you can earn the same money somewhere like I shouldn't even mention money. Why would you debase yourself by going there right now into right now I do WanNa at least mentioned something about the game interaction top? They have passed. You've by a point. Thirty seven points to thirty six. What a season it's been for enter? Twelve wins and fourteen games a draw loss to go along with that and they've scored some really nice school is to along the way yeah And meanwhile the team they're facing Roma are currently fifth fifth on twenty eight points tied with Calorie and to back of lot. CEO So certainly a lot on the line. I mean there's still a lot to go but you know a lot on the aligned for Champions League places if you're looking to that and for inter a true title race in this League which typically has been used to loot will not typically has been you've as to lose with Napoli is the primary seven and I think Conti is going to get that name then if he can if he can pull this off Magin. If Inter win Conti will be your. I'm a team. That's in around the top. I need a manager. That's GonNa come and get me a league. He is going to be your league win fixer. We've got the relegation fixers. We got the League winning fixers. Yeah did a Chelsea. Yeah you're right Quick EPL Saturday. Seven thirty a M Everton Chelsea God. It's just like the the hits. Just keep on coming this gauntlet. That Everton her in the midst of right now And they got lip of the cup. We should mention these. Yeah the third round of the they cup. What a conflict for all the American Everton fans as they will now have to watch Christian Pulisic do his thing against them Who will be managing that forever? Forever remains to be seen Mois. I'm assuming right now. Is that your prediction. I think David Moyes will you think he'll come in right away. I don't I think now it's Thursday at one o'clock well. They're having the meeting right now but but like even even if they announced him I still don't know they feel come in right away and be on on on the sidelines. When's HE GONNA come in a row after at least give him like a full week to be with his his team rather than a day to prepare for Chelsea GonNA pop out of a box of the training chrome surprise? They also Saturday twelve thirty Manchester City and Manchester United. That is your marquee match of the weekend. United looking to keep them a mental rolling from their win over Tottenham city be the same over With what they did to Burnley and then haven't mentioned Arsenal Just because we actually don't know what's happened there game they play later today But Monday three o'clock they do face West Ham What has also been a really difficult stretch for for the hammers as well I mean it's Pellegrini Silva Silva the probably before Pellegrini can't relieve Ford. I think Pellegrini bought himself some time with the Chelsea Wind Bush. Yeah so there you go. That's about all I have for today. There was one other thing. I don't think I'm GONNA mention it but there are just finished binge watching a show. Yes that you and I both so many feelings about the final L. episode. But I can't say them in front of you. Want me to walk out the room. I almost I kind of do all right. I'm GonNa just need to vent this to somebody right okay. I'm actually get up and leave going to walk. Walk out. Say what you gotTa say vent to the people. Are you go in the control room. Tell me if you can hear me still in there. I don't know the volumes up talking can you. Oh He's GonNa actually have to leave and go all the way down the hallway Because what I have to say. It's not even necessarily commentary terry just about this show. But it's about a philosophy from Writers or creators show runners. Whoever it is come come up with storylines? And here's the message that I have to these people when you leave the ending of your show with something open ended that is supposed to. It'd be left to some sort of viewer interpretation. I am here speaking on behalf of yours everywhere and I'm here to tell you we don't want that. We don't want viewer interpretation. And when we invest this many hours in a thought provoking show that is building towards some sort of intriguing finality. We want the finality ability. We want the resolution. No more viewer interpretation. I've never met anyone at the end of a series that they've invested hours and years in I've never met anyone on who approached the end of that same boy. I hope this is left in an open ended manner. No stop doing it. Stop please on begging you all right come back. Jj Aj we're good now. I had to get that off of my chest because it's a I'll stop talking. He's walking back in the room and he's back. I can't wait for you to finish I. I don't think I said the name of the show did you. Because I don't want anyone who law I said. Oh you dead. Maybe I'll go. We'll bleep it out okay. Because I don't want anyone to to because there could be other people that watch this but it's just something that I had to say I am whilst this show for you to finish this show I'm three episodes into its final season and I am enjoying. Yeah yeah so it's been a slow burner but I have enjoyed it well. The whole series is slow. It's a slow moving. Well whatever. Yeah Hey this was fun man A little bit of anger from for me mainly towards you which is fine I can take. It is forced us into doing this. Yeah I guess I don't know I. Maybe we have a photo shoot do now although I emailed scope and to say it's off this UNESCO Jim Only God well. I'M GONNA go get lunch if that's okay. It's about that time. Hey this this was This was a joyous joyous. I thought yeah I enjoyed it very much. You say I'll see you see you next week on the White Guy Podcast. I was listening to cough side soccer. podcast I'm loud and bold radio announcer. Who was hired to tell you about the loud and bold flavors and Tyson anytime there's chicken snacks? They're boldly say so full of flavor. Thanks for listening by Tyson. N._A._T._O.'s chicken bold flavorful chicken's necks.

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"The. Off Size. Chichi to ready. Yes hold all thought the suburb of New York City apartment in Brooklyn and Gulling as JJ's Advani. We have actual et L. to some white, even say. EPL Back for additional coverage, which is much catchier than the original EPA back for more Andrew. The football is back and the football is reassuringly crap. And that's been important. It's so funny. You say that I didn't even tell you that that was what you just did. Is something that I kinda wanted to talk about I can't even believe he just did that. It's like a a segue. Few could even dream of and now it's. About the segue which kind of kills this segue? So I was listening to another soccer podcast I won't name them because I'm about to. Criticize them and I usually only name other podcasts I want to praise them. I feel bad about criticizing them, and then telling you who I'm criticizing. Is Insurance I'm. No. It was not it was not I like them I don't care. I, enjoy them, but at any rate. To at least soccer, I'm not gonNA. Know wasn't that either and I'm going to just say no to everything that you say you're that guy. You Want Your tabloid. You criticize tabloids, but you need the gossip you. It's killing you right now that that you don't know who I'm talking about, but at any rate it's not important br anybody people who listen to this podcast probably listening to that one too, and they know who I'm talking about in a SEC, but like they started off their show I was listening to. and. They kinda started off. It was sort of tongue in cheek, but it was there was an air of seriousness in meaning it to what they were saying, and they were just Kinda like killing the action, and just like Oh. It was awful. Just lie, it was it was really tough to watch it and I I just feel like. As a listener in that moment I was not Andrew Gulling. The podcast, or whatever like I was just a fan listening for what their reaction was to someone happened over the weekend, and I was just thinking more about that and I was just like. Is this what people wanna hear like the all these gains that I invested time in and watch like okay I know what my eyes. Eyes told me these weren't works of art. I get it, but like do you want to just like come on? And had people tell you how awful like it happens in this sport? And maybe it's an indictment of sport, but it happens in the sport, the coverage of it more than any other sport that I think I follow where it seems like the people within this within this. You Let podcasters journalists whatever they love to just crap on the game and I. Don't know if that's like some sort of smugness arrogance. I don't know what it is, but I don't. I don't know as a listener if people wanna hear us just like come on and be like yeah, the. All but we're GonNa talk about him now. Anyway, because what else are we? Going to do like I just don't want to hear that anymore kind of tired of it. Who is worse than Andrew The people who talk about football as if it's this cross between the greatest action adventure film you've ever seen, and every game is just these moments of almost orgasmic joy and the guys who slag it off. Let me tell you this weekend. I prefer. If you WANNA, give me fake joy and enthusiasm. Okay I'll be able to tell that it's fake, but I think I think I'm now in a place. Prefer that to someone just telling me. It's all sucks that it's not enjoyable. No, but. Soccer That weekend was not that much different from a lot of weekends. We seem before. Do you know how many goals? Many goals have been scored in the last like seven. Merseyside diabetes or something like that. At goodison like one. Yeah! People need to. We've built up the the. And I hate this I hate this I. Never want to hear it again. We've built up the beautiful game to this level where it's I. Mean there's bad NFL Games. There's bad games shuttlecock badminton. Sorry, there's there's there's drew can be dry games of ice hockey as well. It's just you know. I'm by the way I would say that the moments that illuminated this weekend which we will be going through now shortly. were. Payoff enough. They were so good for the minute. You spent watching the game beforehand. The Consensus Back Home Andrew is that the football needs to get better else. We will tune out. Yeah. That's that that's what I'm. Hearing is like these guys have been off not really training consistently for like four months, and they get thrown back into the super weird environment for them to be like playing in these sixty thousand seat stadiums with no people in it like this is a weird weekend of action and people. It seems like people just have no tolerance for a transition back into playing under really really strange circumstance I will say. This arsenal held up their end. They have kept their levels of consistency. To a great degree. Should we start with Man City and Burnley today? Yes sure if you want to do that I, don't I honestly I watched it? I don't have a ton to say about it except for except for this there since the restart Manchester City. They had their way with Arsenal they did. They did the same thing again today with Burnley. And sometimes you watch them. and. You like not just watch them. Look at the names you see the team. You see the manager. You Watch how they play. And then you look at the table. And you're just kind of lake. How how did this happen? How is this gap what it is? This Manchester City team. Everything is my brain. It all tells me that what I'm watching is a great team and I think the last two seasons plus have have bore that out. I guess there just we'll look back on the season, and we'll just look at a few games and say what they weren't on it that day I I don't know because I still I still. Wholeheartedly believed that next year will begin and Manchester. City will be right back contending title in a in a way that was just not indicative of what we saw this season well as As they should be on Durant, and again it was Lee Dixon that remark during the commentary that he counted four hundred million dollars worth of Taiwan sitting on the bench on, so they had a drop off for sure. We've pointed out AD. Nauseam, the defects that often happen in in in in the pet bought three thousand plan, and that can happen and some of the defects. The major defect was that they met Liverpool team that this time was relentless even when it was playing bad and that's that's the difference Liverpool. Were that good? On City had those those games where they fell away away to Norwich etc, etc, but they hammered Burnley today. They've looked really sharp and three start although. I would not measure anything. against that arsenal performance, because that was so spineless and supine and pathetic from Arsenal but But you see we. Are we talking about that game? Do Right now. No I'm just saying that we can. We can lump both of these men city games at once because there's. Things to say about that Arsenal game will will the reason. I, think David Luiz has become this. This This meme. This joke, this clown. This food become has been for some time again, and we said at the start of the season signing him was just. Just such a weird signing almost convenience. He lives up the road in London, and he wants out like. Let's get him in when you know, it's a long time since I've. Louise is put together a string. Honestly and we're beating a dead horse saying it because our preview podcast we talk about it, but it was just the ultimate. We Are you know let's look at our squad Oh my God! We're horribly thin. It centre-back. Oh my God. There's no-one available. Who's the biggest name that we can just go out and get and hope that that appeases the fans? Who's the biggest name we can get quickly? Who doesn't have to move house and come into preseason straightaway? David Luiz. And but. Andrew homicide like let's let's move him aside. Let's move the conversation. He was a disaster. Against Manchester City, but let's move the conversation to the to the to the Brighton game. You know well actually no. Let's stick with with the man city game we should. We should talk not city. We're brilliant arsenal were terrible. Hey, maybe if you've got nothing to say about city, we'll talk arsenal nano because I want to say that that's later on in the rundown. I've got my brand June into city now because I do WanNa, talk about the game, at the Emirates Today, and the and the and the crowning of a new king of English football as well in Phil Foden. Foden put them, but you know Aristotle rolled-over so easily for city I, and city were ruthless, but they always are an There was just no way arsenal were ever GonNa. Put up anything against city so I thought okay. We'll pack that one. Let's let's let's move on and so city play a Burnley today. An I texted you beforehand. I just thought there was no chance Bernie. Get anything out of this game. An Burnley were resolute for for a little bit or did their best. To try to be compacted. There was an organization there, but city like you said. City are so good at what it is they do and you know. The hours of shadow play the hours of of of work in terms of movement. There's always somebody able to get on the ball. Look at look. David Silva Andrew He's on the way out the door I know and look at the performance. He's putting in there so. It's funny not to cut you off, but I feel like one of the the marks of a truly great team is I'll watch. Manchester City play and a month will go by and I'll say boy Sergio. Guero is just clearly the best player on the team, and then like another month will go by and I'll be like Kevin. O'Brien has just clearly the best and that it's running. Sterling is just cleared and now I feel like I'm saying. Mars is the best player on this team. They have so many best players on this team. It's a team filled with best players on this team I. Don't know how you account for them, and they did something today that I think it's I think needs to become the next trend in. English football I'll say all football worldwide. Because we go through these trends, you know that's playing from the back things like that. One striker up top. Jj The way, Manchester City work the corner kick. The setpiece corner kicks like kick it out to Foden who then you know, he'll do something either shoot, or then they'll run and play after that like I think it's time that that becomes a more regular thing. Like these these just. Throwing balls into the box and just hoping. I I have to believe that. The percentages of of I won't say creating a goal of creating a more quality scoring opportunity I have to believe the percentages are more in favor of working a well run set piece from a corner rather than just. Lobbing one into the box, and hoping for the best and I mean that was I think if you're Sean? Dyche, you're going to be very upset with that goal I mean it's. It's a brilliant finish. Don't get me wrong, but equally. If BERNIER THAT LITTLE BIT Sharper G- There may be getting out to close them down quick, but you're right. There are. There are teams that you know kind of. US women I yeah I mean. Were they love their near poorest corners as well, but there are teams that have variations on corner. Kicks Barcelona due to you know it's not it it. It's not quite what you think it is, but there are a lot of sites that have such good guys would set piece delivery, but they do with it in, and they don't really work too much, but you're right. If you look again, we will deal with this later. I don't WanNa. Go back to the Brighton Arsenal game, but. At Brighton's equal brightens equalizer was a was a short corner, which was horribly mismanaged and I. Think if you're showing dice, you're going to be pretty upset with the way. The Bernie defended that That corner kick, but honestly our Andrew this game was a trend of all the games that people have said have been training games. This won't was very much a trend game. I know I was thinking the same thing Jay even in the way that Manchester City goal scores were reacting to their goals, yeah. There was just like no emotion and granted I. Don't know what Manchester. City are playing for right now. They're out of the tunnel race. Their top four chances are solidified, but they may not even be Champions League for them because of the ban in Europe so I just Kinda. Just kinda going through the motions right now, but look what their version of going through the motions are like they're just destroying teams. But you're right like watching Phil foden reacting after scoring these goals, he was just lights so calm and it was almost on for a guy who. A guy who's had limited opportunities. And now the clamor, the the clamor starts will be a feature for England in in in the next season's next summer. Please God euro twenty. Twenty one I mean Andrew. Why not they don't have that many options in terms of really comfortable guys on the ball in the middle of the park and he's one of them Yeah, it's And he's about to become a regular for them like if there was concern for inland. We were so well. David was going to leave and I like why I mean look, it's Manchester City so you can never rule out them just like throwing crazy money at somebody, but you know especially if Leroy. Sante leads as as he is apparently going to do, and they're going to get a lot of money for that. But like why wouldn't they get this guy a chance to be that to be midfielder for them? When I you know being the proper football man who likes to see players come through academies and be brought in that way rather than by throwing. Hundreds of millions of dollars at the issue, yeah, I. Think I think it'd be nice to see to be refreshing to say, but unfortunately that wasn't really the story of the game. So. Right, at the commencement of the game, right as the players had just taken a knee for the black lives matter campaign People who don't know on, we don't know who organized it, but the assumption is. That they were. Burnley, fans flew plane with a banner over the IT, he had that said White Lives Matter Burnley. which was which is now subject of an investigation by the police and the Premier League? And Before we say anything. I think it's important to listen to burn these Ben me. who had some pretty strong things to say about what happened? Our funds. Besides! Around the stadium. To Point and group lots INARA embarrassing. To See and It's not. Also missed the whole thing trying to trying to achieve trying to do. I think these people needs to the twenty first century and educate themselves in. You know as a lot. Was They win? Please, point of the whole thing that we're trying to achieve and. Does Not Represent. About the plays robot. Under about show. So he addressed it straight away the the question from the sky reports, or was tough night for Burnley, and not he was obviously referring to probably both things. But Ben. Me didn't shark and go for the football option, which probably in this case was easier option to talk about. He went straightaway and said he was embarrassed by that by that banner that was flown over the stadium. I mean I'm so glad that he used this term over and over again missed the point. Miss the point because that's that's it. That's it like everybody who continues to harp on on those sort of lines. The all lives matter things like that. They are missing the point like the. because. We know that all lives matter what we're saying is that black lives have not been treated in that manner, and so that's what this movement is is to basically catch black lives up with the rest of lives. That's why this is all happening. How are people not seen right our? They're not putting this movement together. With what what? What the phrase is black lives matter so I'm glad that he kept on using. Miss the point the point because people continue to miss the point the choosing to miss the point I don't get it. Yeah, I think as well for context. Burnley has as as a tone. Ten years ago elected some I mean they were the epicenter of the fire. Right, rice and British politics There's an interesting article out tweeted out about. From the New Statesman about that that moment, in time, where they were electing some of the most morally and ethically reprehensible candidates dot have ever come out of British politics and and it's interesting. Andrew you know. People keep saying it's a small minority of people. I I think it's quite a large amount of people. It's not a small as we say it is and. It's scary when you see the protests against black lives matter. In London two weeks ago. I'm wondering how many of those organized the plane to fly over. The ad were involved in that, too. I think football still has a race problem in terms of In terms of those who are racist football. Fans will elect Barnes told us when he was all with us. It's not football that has a race problem society that does right, and but football is the largest cultural. Cultural Theater for 'em shows up all the time so I'm glad Ben me spoke that way, but it was a completely overshadowed. What was a fine performance by Manchester City? Let's see I. Guess, let's go to arsenal now. It seems like you desperately want to talk about them. Although for whatever reason you continuously, stop yourself from doing it We talked about what happened with David Luiz in the Manchester. City match! For the Brighton Match WanNa. Talk a little bit about the burnt Leno Situation Neil. Being at the center of that I'm a little bit torn on it like I believe that moped was probably a little bit overly aggressive. In the way he approached it And, but like by the same token, does that necessarily make it dirty I duNno. I feel like there was a little bit of bad luck involved with just the way Leno sort of there was a lot of bad luck. Yeah, yeah! But one thing I wanted to talk about with the incident was the way. That arsenal responded to it so. Know? There's this talk consistent talk about Arsenal having the soft underbelly. That's you know kind of like. We've heard Troy Deeney talk about that. Before we hear pundits and media talk about that before I heard a ton of that in the wake of this game with Arsenal, capitulating at the end, and throwing the lead away, and then ultimately throwing the game away. There was a ton of talk about if you go down against arsenal, it's no big deal because they're soft, they'll let you back in a okay. Maybe maybe I'm talking about two different things here, but. I would also say that okay so Neil Nell pay then at the end of the game wants to rip Arsenal for kind of the way they reacted to him. After the burnt, Leno incident like. To me, soft underbelly would be if arsenal just showed nothing in the way of motion at no Andrew or after what happened apply. Sorry, sorry, sorry and I. I really I'm not just picking on you for this, but there's a difference between petulance. And you know channelling aggression into the right way. Arsenal didn't play better. They weren't inspired by what moped Delano. They didn't roll their sleeves up and say right. We're GONNA batter. These guys. They went one up Fernow Brennan goal by Nicholas Pepper and promptly conceded straight afterwards when they switch off the soft underbelly, still there the their right to get him. mopus faced a right to defend their teammates I. I'm talking about that side of it in baseball sometimes like. Played poorly, yes, but like sometimes in baseball a guy will strike out, and he can either just walk back to the Dugout, and put his helmet down, or whatever sometimes I want to see a guy after he strikes out, take a bat and smash the Watercooler Okay like yeah, you still struck out. It was still a bad moment. This, it is what it was for us. They're not very good and like teams can come back against, and they're defending as they're always going to keep teams in the game because they have bad defending, it's just the way it is. But what I'm saying is I kinda. Don't like Neil. Moped and people want to rip the way when doozy and arsenal players reacted. To Mow pay and I'm kind of saying I I. Don't know if at least at least they're showing that they care. Yeah. I do Andrew. Because then look at the way the reactors that the corner kick for goal. You're talking about short corners. I mean there's to Brighton. Players gone out and Danny. SA- bias is the only one who trots out to make a half past effort to stop that bill. Look. They're not your team. The ball goes into the box on. Holding isn't strong enough to stand up and boot that ball away that things should have been cleared and and I thought worse than all that I. Thought was Mustafa at the end of the game. It drove me crazy how he allows moped run by him. And then what is he doing? Screams it as goalkeeper afterwards will how `bout you stay in front of your man. there. They're not a likeable team. They're not a very good team. I'm just saying I at least for me. At least they showed some kind of motion that it that at least it mattered. I think you're damning them would fan prayers android. Look. The same issues dot of affected him for a decade under vanguard are still there like centreback. He's Moustapha still at the club. Never Mind Louise Holding. Those guys can't defend like you said. The midfield is unable to keep control of again. They can get control of a game, but there's no way they're holding onto dot. Com dominance the lack of leadership on the field like they're senior pros. Andrew like Moustapha is World Cup? Cup Winner I. Maybe he's Great and addressing room. He's not good on the field as a leader. Collazo Nats I just don't see leaders in the team. An you know what said staffer blower, said exactly what you're saying. When he was writing about this over the weekend, he just said. Maybe it comes down to the fact that they don't have good players like you take that. Let's go to the good player Balmy Yang. Lack! Nicholas Patty at a push. We don't know exactly what he's going to be. He's he's very raw, but look at the goal that from three is. That's pretty awesome. You look back to Midfield Kunduz E. WE don't know what he's going to be. These young donny. Jacka? I mean obviously wasn't planning at the weekend Danny so bias. Skillful shore is going to be able. To pick it up for the Premier League hasn't done it yet, not consistently. Mixed a lot of the season with injury. We don't know we're hearing. Tyranny signed from Celtic big sign and we've been told can't hold down a regular spot in the team. He had injury problems as well and look at the defenders. Look Ted has got a lot to do what you bought up on the podcast last week was most important. Wilder, be the money to change all this well. Here's part of the problem so. Arsenal as a whole Darren Lewis of the Daily Mirror was on the Sunday supplement. He spoke about the way. The club is handling their key players from kind of financial perspective. The transfer perspective he said Obama is set to become the latest in a long list of players who have left the club either on a free or for substantially less than their market value. When you get a talent, such as Sokha and his contract is running down, you have to ask. Why has a big club like arsenal? Not move more quickly to be able to sign him up. I think it's true for Arsenal I think it's true what we saw what we seem to Tottenham with players like for Tongan. Out of. Christian Erickson who left you know these clubs leading their their players contracts run down to the end, and it creates all this uncertainty. It creates discord between the player and the club. You know players WanNa. feel either taken care of or if they no longer WANNA be there. I think sometimes it's a tough decision to make, but maybe it's for the greater good. Just let them go. And so for Arsenal to allow some of these key players to get to within the final year of their contract. I feel it just creates all this this uncertain atmosphere around the club, and it's you know it's just not. It's not helpful and to give our Ted. His Jew he is trying to set standards. He is trying to do things the right way you know. He's leaving was loaded the team. He's not. He's not getting involved if he's not gonNA work, or if he's not gonna put in what he wants. He's not GonNa have always been the site. I feel for our, Ted. It's a long road ahead and I hope. That he's given the time that he that that's needed because it's GonNa, take a long time. I think he will be I can't. He doesn't feel like. I mean arsenal. Know what they are right. who expected him to come in and work a miracle? Yeah, I know, but. I mean. emery either I know it wasn't going well under emory and I think I've seen more from our data, not much more, but I have seen more and he's a rookie manager Andrew I don't I it? It depends on I'm not entirely trustful of the ownership of the club either from what I've seen over the past few years. No, it's been A. It's been a bad restart for them. There's a there's just no way around that Let's talk quickly about the Merseyside Derby nil. Nil is how it ends Liverpool's tidal wave. We'll have to wait just. A little bit longer. Not a ton really to say about. Liverpool missed Mosala a little bit somebody who could just provide sort of cutting edge. In attack I thought Saudi-omani was dangerous. Shaves Coleman. Battle was fun to watch I so good. It was awesome. Yeah, really was and. I mean clearly. If you WANNA see the impact. He's made at Everton just to talk about them for Second Watch dot first forty five minutes. I thought I thought Everton more compact taught. There were so well organized. When's the last time Everton have been this organized? Not Under? Michael Silva like Liverpool loved plan. Everton under Soviet like the chaos that the the gaps the space is the defensive errors, certainly not under Ronald Koeman a not as well maybe a little bit more on a crewman, but certainly not the same under Roberto Martinez. So this is like this is real solid coaching work that's being done by Ancelotti, and it's it's. It's really really good. It's not it might not be great to watch in terms of you know. It's not super exciting, and they do have to figure out that midfield what they're gonNA. Do offensively a little bit more, but Everton earn a really good place and they denied Liverpool space. I taught Liverpool at all the ball. Everton out the chances and the chances mainly came when Liverpool last Joel. Matic I. Thought I thought Liverpool were going to just keep plugging and plugging working the Engels Everton. Would tire and Liverpool will get that opportunity, but what happened was matchup goes off and Liverpool Arts. Unsettled by introduction of Lavin like Andrew How many there were three attacks, three scoring opportunities, straightaway download lifetime channel the right hand side of the central defense there when Lavin came in. And Everton could could have nick Gammon and mid Liverpool. Wait even longer for the for the championship so. I think. I honestly other than DOT. It wasn't good. No, not really I have a couple of quick things just on Everton. One. We don't talk about this guy very often, but I wanted to throw out there that I I liked Calvert Lohan. I think he could be. You know. He's a young player. A potential inland international I think he could be a good piece for them to to build off of Charlotte Lison is an interesting one for me with Everton. I love him in the sense that it seems like everything positive that they do in attack. He is in some way. Involved with it and I love players like that who just they're desperate to be on the ball in key moments in attack. By God if there are moments when I kinda screamed at the TV and say like just make that pass. Do this one thing different. You can tell he's. He's a really good player and under the right coaching as long as he's willing to listen to like. enchiladas allegedly as long as he's willing to listen to these guys. I feel like he could really be a superstar in this league. He just has moments I know they even commented on. It was a grandma so or Lee. Dixon I can't remember who was doing that, but even commented on it in the second half. When you know, he had someone streaking in the middle of the box. Where if you play the ball in you know may not be the world's easiest pass, but if it gets through, it's an easy tap-in goal, and instead he goes for this like he's going for the incredible. He's playing hero ball. and. I think someone needs to harness that. Because hero ball can be a good thing if you're a world talent. But sometimes it's just going to do nothing more than infuriate your teammates I actually think his work rid and the way for Everton the fans really like it because there's a little bit about him, he's not. He's not I wouldn't enjoy playing against him. He's he's. He's got that alleged to him, but he's not a polished finisher yet, and that's something that needs to be worked on. I would agree with you. Just on Liverpool before we get off the game. You could see Roulston. I'm not making excuses, but you could see moments of Ross like there was the one move in the first half. Which I think was Liverpool's bass move in the game and it ended up. It was quick interplay Monay. And ended up at the feet of Roberto for Forino, and he just dragged this shot way of the post like sculpted completely when he should really hit the target and I looked at that, and just that little bit of edge has been taken off. I'm one comment I wanted to make in. This school is not just for Liverpool Everton arsenal or or any team really in the primarily. You don't get better, not doing something. REPETITION is important, and this break has affected every team. There's no question or of course lasting Charlotte and can you think of another player Jj? I feel like when when I'm watching him. He's one of these guys who he always looks angry. I don't know that's his. Yeah, exactly what I mean by age. Yeah, yeah, like I feel like maybe like Bellamy. Okay I feel like also like Clint Dempsey may have had a little bit of that where I felt like he was always playing angry. But, I feel like we're strong. His actual face like. He looks like he's mad. Stretch this construction of it. Yeah, or maybe that's just the face. He's making when he's playing just a very intense guy. I WanNa see what he looks like. When he smiles at that, he has a nice smile. Let's see we continue now. Jj. Oh My god Christian Pulisic. He didn't have a spot in Franklin part starting eleven, but that did not prevent him from making a massive impact He has now this season career high six league goals. In fact about this stat, his six goals are tied for the most by an American in their first premier league season. He's tied with Brian McBride no good guests very good guests. One of the best ever heard Joe Max. Moore who did it for Everton in the ninety nine two thousand season. Kid does about that, and there's plenty of time where I would. If I were a betting man I, would probably put money on to get another one before it's all said and done and. Hold that record to himself. Frank. Lampard talked about Pulisic after the game. Because you know we Americans we, we only see him through the lens of what every decision means for his future. That's the only way we can. So when he's not starting like the freak out is palpable when he comes on as a sub, the excitement is palpable like. It's fun to ride this this way. It's exhausting I, we got a tweet. Thankfully was only one tweet I avoided. The rest of the comments wound guy tweets us and goes. Lampert didn't even celebrate when he score. And I tweeted back, he did. He pumped his fists. tweet he tweets back rolling. He tweets back. I must have missed that. I just want him to play every single game, so he goes on and brings us to World Club World, Cup glory like. It's insane I can't handle it. But it's fun though it's fun, it's not fun. It's not fun. I think doing just fine at Chelsea really well actually, so lampard said after the game. It's almost like he was speaking to us. Americans like I feel like with quotes like this. He said he will start games for us of course and I think he's going to be a big player for us. Not just in the running, but going forward. He was hungry I know that and I felt for him. I felt for the players that long-term injuries the ability. He's got to arrive in the box. It's a big thing I've spoken about it with him all season. It's the difference between being a very good player off the side and attacking player or the players are. Are the real top level, the game that arrive and score the six yard box and hit numbers yearly. I really think kristen can do that so I was really pleased with him the impact he made when he came on Jayjay. If there is it even possible on this podcast for us to utter the name Frank, Lampard and then not have you immediately say arriving late in the box it it's and frank is now seeing a little bit of himself. In Young Christian and I think that is I think that bodes well. I think frank is taking him under his wing. And I think this is the beginning of a of a beautiful mentor relationship between I mean he's put the pressure on him straightaway and we've put the pressure on him to score the ammonia goals that lampard did arriving late in the box. I would say this. The kid didn't play a competitive game since January I. I actually didn't expect them to start and. What did I text you when he was coming on? He's GonNa make an impact. What he's done consistently an even in those games where we were like all my God, he didn't score against Sheffield United and and from what I've heard. They're not so good my God, what are we gonNa do it should just sell them sell them sell them to the Columbus crew. Be Happy you know that you rule sees that kind of. Dot stuff it with such nonsense. He was still performing well. I mean there were games. There was that Champions League game where Lambert inexplicably left him out of the squad. What? After that the performance against the performance against. Way Lampard unless he is. Unless? He's arrived late so much in the box that it's affected. His brain is not stupid. He is going to see what Pulic is is giving, and he will be a regular starter. Also Christian Pulisic has not proved durable over his career. Playing every game is not good for him. That's what I'd say. He is a great point I. Hate that it's a point that exists but I. I really I think so highly of this kid's telent and his skill I really believe the only thing that can set him on the wrong course, are these injuries because not just because of what it'll do to his body, but when you're at a club like Chelsea, who we now see are more than willing to spend again as the team of earner signing has now become official. Like he may continue to still be really good after these injuries, but there's other guys who are waiting for their turn, who are also really good and he may just miss an opportunity based solely on that So you're. You're right. I hate that that's thing, but he's got a I don't know how you tell a guy like be healthy more, you know. These are muscle injuries. This was an Dr Muscle injury that he was dealing with like I. Don't I. Don't know how you fix that stuff. I just hope that it's right now. It's some sort of bad luck situation, and then he'll be fine going forward, but you're right, man. That's I really think that's the only thing that can kind of deter the direction that he's headed, but. For. Him Oh yeah. Oh. Yeah, we'll talk about another American. WHO had a two other Americans actually? That had nice weekends differently coming up shortly. Which is why I am. Already Giddy for twenty twenty six World Cup, but that is another story for another day. some thoughts. Jj on the race for the top four suck a little bit about Manchester United Spurs. Thought. Again not a great game. I thought both teams thought both teams kind of looked like like. This is one of the games kind of looked like a game of these two teams from before this break like we're talking about other teams that came out all day. Look Rusty clue in this break has gotten to this. This came to me. Kind of looked like Tottenham pre the the break like they're trying to play on the counter. They don't really hold much possession they're trying to. To Be Compact, but like they get as the game progresses, and they'd got this narrow lead. They get more compact and more compact and eventually you could just feel I texted you I said the goal is coming. I didn't know how it's going to happen. Necessarily I don't necessarily know penalty, but you could just. You could feel that Manchester United were going to get something. Because Tottenham, it's it felt like it was more and more last-ditch defending fewer opportunities going back the other way. I do give Spurs credit for for a couple of things for one. I thought after the the Manchester United. Goal Even though I feel. I taught him a really gassed and Marino, for whatever reason didn't really utilize the extra substitution, or even the the even three substitutes, I think he only used to, but whatever they were gassed, but I felt like they did regather themselves for those last ten minutes. Put some pressure on United I know they almost conceded a penalty in their own right. But I thought that you know it could've. It could've gotten away from them. With how headed and I thought that they kinda steadied themselves in. At least we're able to see out the draw. And you're looking for other positives, I think I think Steven Bird bond is a good player. I think he fits what Marino wants to do. He's he's lightning-quick. And he appears to be a good finisher We saw against Manchester City. And now we saw it again against Manchester. United I know debit. The Hey was partially at fault, but the bird got that ball about fifty yards away dribbled right around Harry Maguire. Who who's an England international? WHO's having a good season and fired a accurate hard shot on net couldn't handle it, so I really like him. He got hurt. You know he's another guy who I hope. Injuries don't second the wrong way. 'cause he was playing great, and then he had the injury before the break. He's healthy now and I thought he was really good. Yeah I think. I think you're being very kind. To Harry Maguire and his defending on that gold it those individual bursts from from deep That's Ho- Spurs are going to win Games under Marino. That was a long ball hooked up the field. That wasn't dead with by show I think it was. He heads it, and then as Roy Keane pointed out just runs. They lose the ball or space and behind and the United. Defense was opened up to here. Definitely should have done better. But you know. I thought United Plato Cain, that I have and The goal came out and nothing. I I really thought united. We're going to. We're going to dominate that game and What was interesting for me? Was the impact of Paul Pogba in the second half all. Star game! Yeah, he was so good now. Eric dire did not cover himself in glory in his defending and Pogba, didn't even have to Pug, but didn't even have to turn on the tricks to tournament into the box, and he warned that penalty perfectly, and yes, it was a penalty. Bob by saw flashes his passing ranch pass. He played on the half volley. That was just you know perfect, and I honestly think him and Bruno Fernandez campaign midfield together as long as they can, and we can see it clearly. They've got to be able to screen the to United Center halves worth my Tomini or manage or some combination of the two because they are susceptible now we're all very nice here. Andrea we're all very kind, we talk nicely about this game. In a rational manner I think though the Star of that game was sitting in a studio in London. Shuman Hair Watson, district football I am staggered up Maguire. International. Player can just get done like this, and I am sick gotta keep her I will be fighting them halftime. There's no getting away from new. Why would be swinging punches about guy? This is a standard stay for an. Established International Goalkeeper. But I am fed up about the hair, the most already goalkeeper Knaw. Trace over. Did, he did he do anything to restore his reputation with the saint from Sun. I'd say this this is this. Your awesome decisions medical that near the voice there was petry's ever the dominant voice. Was Roy Keane who? I mean little twitter across the world with threatening to Punch Avid Day because of his attempted to save in the lead up to the Bergen said he wouldn't let him back on the bus. Right said to Maguire and To to hear the both of them will be left behind. Strong and people say you know while he's playing a character, is he? I'm not so sure I. Think this this is who he is and look. You know we know in sports media. There's there's much of the outrageous performance. We Know Fan TV. We know even in this country. Speak for your son. For whatever that is on Fox I mean a lot of that is is performance, but we keen. I don't think for a second that that's the case. This is who he is. This is a guy who left players behind on an away trip trip for Sunderland because they were a minute late for the boss. And Daniel Tanner tweeted something out. I texted it to you over the weekend. This is a guy who when he was at Nottingham Forest as a assistant manager. Last year would get annoyed when fans would send requests for autographs and not send stamps, so they could be posted back. He's like why should not embarrassed fan for stops? You know what he's right. I think make a great point. And that's why you need. STAMPS DOT COM. But seriously he is one thing is out thing about what he's saying about. I mean look to say that he's the most overrated player. What however it was phrased that I guess if you still view Deva Hey as being the best goalkeeper in the Premier League. Then sure he's overrated because he's no longer that. Is another one of these guys that we talk about where you just wonder like ironically enough. Eric dire with Tottenham You just wonder if maybe Manchester United, miss their their moment where they could have sold him. It would have been difficult decision at the time, but for what they would have made, and for where his career may have been headed. Like it's just hard to know it's hard to know. When is the right time to sell a guy I think it's easy to sit here now. And you know, play Monday morning quarterback and say that when when Real Madrid ready to come in and make him the most expensive goalkeeper in the world. They should have pulled the trigger. It's tough to noman. Detail was player of the year for united two years in a role which definitely you know kind of elevated status. He's been in a slump for a while now, but as has the team really. Doesn't help that the study is down the road at Sheffield united playing as well as he is Dean Henderson and. Maybe! He needs someone challenge am hired behind our. Maybe it's time to give Romero a bit of a ronin goals I. Don't know, but for he is. Like Andrew Dot was basic save. That's something you should. That's ball. You should save when it's coleman straight through like that. But he's making. It's not like he still makes good saves. Tip The header from San that he tipped over the bar. It's more that he's. He's making these errors, and they seem like lapses in concentration, and he seems a lot like the goalkeeper that was signed under Sir Alex Ferguson. Where Gary Neville thought he'd never make it Neville thinks he's in a slump and she'll be moved on. I'm not so sure I think I think sought. Sought shower is going with this one. I would a little bit longer and try and work with them. to improve them. I don't think he's going anywhere yet, but it is a nice safety net to be able to recall Dean Henderson down the road. Should things get a very very bad henderson by the way who his contract was extended for the remainder of the season? As you would, as you would have expected to be the case out one note on the Tottenham side of this Paul Merson skysports he spoke about Harry Kane and Look I. Love Hurricane! He was invisible in this game it, you know it is what it is. Katie touch the ball just thirty six times total, not once in the Manchester United Penalty area attempted one shot. It was blocked. He looked tired. It was his first appearance in what like six months? And Paul Merson than says. This guy can't succeed in Josie Marino system. He's not going to be getting his twenty five to thirty goals like what we've expected from hurricane and Kane is gonNA WANNA leave. My instinct when I heard that is kind of what I was. Just saying. Look who? Will, bear out to be true, but to choose this moment I think to make that judgment I think is wildly unfair like I. Just said you know. It's been six months for this guy and I. Don't know what his training Reginald was over the course of the quarantine. It's not gonNA. Happen for. You'RE NOT GONNA. Snap your fingers in. The hurricane that was putting in thirty goals in past seasons. Look and what he scored seven his first ten. I think under Marino so to say that it's just not going to happen for playing in the system. Like I said maybe that will wind up being true, but to to choose this moment as the moment where you're going to make that decision, just not as wrong. It's not fair to Marino or Cain. It's just it's inaccurate. MMA! Thankfully, Marino decided that he would come back and list all the players that have succeeded under his all the strikers that have done well under his tutelage, and got older, not all of them, but got some of their goalscoring records wrong. He he made said drug scored one hundred and eighty six goals from. I mean he made the classic mistake of confusing appearances. All's with appearance. Yeah, I mean he scored, but you know his point is well taken. Yeah, make fun of it, but like there there are plenty of strikers that have not just played well, but thrive like had the best years of their career playing under Josie. Some of those were a decade ago. You're right. It's worth noting that. But but but I don't believe it. I actually do believe Ken Score. In the system Marino plays I. do think there needs to be more structure to that counter. There needs to be more structure after they've done the good stuff, the compact stuff the closing down to sitting deep the low block when they get it. They've got to be more constructive. There has to be patterns of play and I haven't seen them yet. You're right, and it's total. It's a fair criticism and we're kind of like going back now. I really feel like we're back into the into the premier league. If you and I are going to be talking about jobs Marino, it's great I feel alive. That feels like it feels like February again. To move. The only thing I wanted to say about that. Is that like that's for the people who want to rip Josie Marino for that exact criticism, which is a valid one all I would say is watch their final year under Pochettino, it's no different so whether that means the players have Kinda gone, stale or Joe's Marino needs to just get in his guys who know his system I? Don't know but It's not just a manager problem. A couple other things here talking about the top four. Put It on the run down I. Wonder what you think about it that to me. It felt like odometer IRA did a Christian Pulisic for wolves. He was so so good. Andrew I comes on. He just changes. What was a game I think I have watched. You know when you're watching a really boring film, and you're like I can't do this anymore. And you switch it off. I was so close with West Ham and wolves to just an forget it. I only watched the second half of the game. Apparently, the first half was even worse and troy. It comes on. The first goal is really interesting to me because at the Jimenez. Gold because as quick as troy. Ori Is as good as his feet are. It's the striking. Of the of the Cross, the way he delivers the cross that's really become so consistent for him. He Andrew, he puts it in that area. Pinpoint every single time very backlift, not elaborate cross of the ball. He gets it in there with like almost a flick of his boot, and he did it a couple of minutes before on him, and has just didn't happen to be there. He repeats the Trick Score, but but nets gold. You had just everything. That's good about wolves in neat little package you had. Troyer is quick feet to work his way through. I think it was pasta and rice, and and another West Ham midfielder gets the ball out wide then to Dartey. Who? The perfect weight on the Cross and nasal with a full volley straight into the roof of the net dot goal Andrew was worth watching absolute diarrhea of an hour of the game of football for. That's beautiful. You really are wordsmith. Sheffield United Bit of a nightmare. Start the the three delegates Newcastle. The Red card happens it all falls apart for them. That's one thing, but. The the goal line decision in the first game back against Aston Villa. I feel like it has it has shaken my world I. Don't know what to believe anymore we can. All we can debate till the cows come home, the the merits or the the awful elements of our, but the one thing that we could all agree on was that goalline technology was a gift from the heavens and I i. no longer I no longer know what to believe this is this is changed me i. Cynical now I I'm different after someone. Someone tweeted that. Yeah, we could use fire for this gold. Yeah, we could used the goal line technology or Michael. Oliver could have seen the goalkeeper using the next like a hammock. To have known that the ball went into the neck. Look. If we're going to have this bloody thing in football, the watch doesn't work and so vire stock repack can intervene. They can say you can look at this, but they didn't because the watch didn't work. It's like this is outside of our purview. As. It's like if it's like if my house is on fire right now. And a police officer was walking by, and you could see the flames and I shout down to him plays help by need. Some help I need to be saved and the police officer went. Well that's that's really the fire departments area, right or like he just he couldn't do it because he hadn't actually gotten communication from the bachelor. Well, I haven't heard from the dispatch that there is just such it would never happen. What is this nonsense like so? That was very straightened, but but to move onto the weekend's game. Sheffield United are a shadow. Shadow of the team they were there so sloppy. Some of their top performers like John Egan getting sent off for that whole thing with Jillian. John was just stupid I. Even though I'm not sure the second one was a yellow, but the first one is pushing him to get a cheap yet over that and then Stevens one of their most solid performers. The ball is coming across and he just gets his legs in a mess. And the next thing the walls in the back of the net. part of that was good. Newcastle Good Miguel Mirani look good. He settled Lynton School but also another part of that was Sheffield United. I mean they? They are just wishing that they can find your way back to their to their their previous form. They the restarts not been good for them now we'll see if they're able to steady themselves. And then JJ, Crystal Palace and Roy. Hodgson is kind of kind of forcing us to to take this Champions League run somewhat seriously. They have just one fewer win than Manchester United this season we ask. And I. If I were to tell you that you would think well, we'll fridge. CZAJA's probably the best player in the League right now. He hasn't even really been. As Lights Out Izawa that we've come to know overpasses although he. He was pretty good at the weekend is. He should scored himself. And he set heap. He started the the move for the goal because he held onto the ball and then von Arnhold. Overlap and he plays into all you and buries. It was a really nice school. Add Jurgen Klopp hit them the Best Compliment that were really oiled while running machine right now and they are. They're playing superbly while. Can you talk about boredom of quickly, sure? Andrew Roy phase are running down. His contract won't resign for next season. So Eddie House says Nope, that's it you're done. You won't play again for us. That to me is crazy. Decision at Ryan Fraser. Fraser was bought from Aberdeen by Bournemouth and what happened. He ran down his contract at Aberdeen to get to bore born. Mich should have had a bit of foresight on this, and said look. He's under contract to us now. Let's play him and get the most out of them and I know. He said he wasn't putting in a full shift. Thankful I was about to say that I know. He said he wasn't putting in a full shift beforehand, but. Honestly like you can't limit yourself like this in the absolute dire straits that they are in and it. Was He even helping them? I and what and who knows I'm sure the locker room. Has I gotta believe that people in that room have turned on fraser if he's getting my own I, don't WanNa. Be here next but Andrew. If you put it in these Terms Ryan Fraser, listen if you WANNA, your move. Here's a nice window to show what you can do and get your move wherever you want your leave and we accept. Accept that, but like he doesn't plan these nine games, and he's got this whole comment that he where he wasn't putting in shift in the previous, pirated the season hanging over him. I mean if you're another club. Are you really going to want that? It's the chance for him to to reset things another another look at what he did. The last couple of seasons and they'll trick themselves, maybe Won't do that. You Know He. He won't be that bad apple for US real. Quick the bottom of the table. I did want to just mention obviously talked about Brighton I think they come out as big winners here for the how the restart has gone for them, but also wofford salvaging a big point against Leicester City. What an incredible finish to that game! Then show wells goal was amazing and then topped by Craig Dawson's bicycle kick in front of net to equalize. That was thrilling final five minutes that game. Yeah, and again you could see Brennan Rogers face the disappointment. This is not a good run that has traversed the the covid nineteen brick there in good form right now. What? He would really have would have been expecting them to hold onto that one, but what a great goal by Dawson! What a brilliant goal! I ask thinks Michael will be upset with himself got quite a bit of a hand on it, but it was just so close in I guess he couldn't keep it out with the power. that's about it for our look at the Premier, league, right now. The Games are just coming so thick and fast. I feel like we could do a podcast every day. If we wanted to but we'll continue. Obviously just cover the hell out of this 'cause. I don't care what people say. The Games file okay fine. They were crap I loved watching him so whatever over this weekend. Jj! We said when Lolita restarted. Restarted that we felt there would be twists and turns at the top of the table. Now we already have our first twist Barcelona. They draw nil nil row Madrid get a win, and so they now go top of the table by virtue of their own. The Tiebreaker Against Barcelona Kareem Benza what goal he scored, one hundred and sixty fifth for the club. Muslim in the sole play, sole possession of fifth-place all time on Real Madrid, scoring less ahead of Mexican legend Hugo Sanchez! So have Madrid top right now. He's be brilliant since the since the restart bash. Day had three shots on target I think against Soviet severe defended really well. They started braithwaite messy and Suarez Upfront which I suppose. All Right? I guess bracelets earned his starting spot there, but it just didn't seem to work Suarez at a really good chance at the end, and he's fired it over on the half volley, but honestly severe were relatively as comfortable as you can be. Against the Barcelona team with Messi in day. They were pretty comfortable. An in Germany a couple of things I wanted to mention. Obviously, we didn't get the chance to mention last week. Fire Munich. They've done it. Their champions eighth straight season. From the time the restart began even before we talked about how hot they were coming in. To the the break. This was this was. There's lose. We said that when the we did our Bundesliga preview or part to preview of thing. And sure enough. They have been clinical Borussia. Dortmund. They will be second place in the Bundesliga. What a erling Haaland again two more goals for Dortmund, but what an assist from the other American kid, the other boy wonder, even more boy boy, wonder Geoana with beautiful touch pastor to Jalan well. We have to get back in studio. One reason we need to get back and studios to create the American Dream Drop. Holland had given him the nickname and I think I think it works. I think I'm GONNA go with. He's the American Dream Andrew. Just to take it in stride like that. was just perfect, open out his body, his left foot, and just let it caress the site of his boot. Put it into highlands path, and you knew the net was going to Russell was actually a very mature performance. 'cause you know what Borussia Dortmund away at Leipzig. Perform, but they were good and pretty comfortable to be honest with you. And then by the way I wanted to mention also Chris Richards made his debut for by Munich's first team. He's the first player to play for buying Munich. In the Bundesliga since Landon Donovan Versa American did I say American. Well whatever that's. That's what happened. Last feel good about Oh yeah lots to feel good about as you mangle your way through that twenty twenty six Jj, I can feel it will still be doing the podcast and twenty twenty six. We will be doing it live from every single venue on the road to glory I. Think we'll still be in quarantine. Stop so negative. Come on, come on. Let's see what a beautiful mailbag! To close with them really excited, but before we do that though we had news that we want that. We need to mention about the NWS l.. Actually I want to do that before the mail bags. I guess I guess. The news is that. We didn't we thought we were going to get a flood of team rosters today? We thought we were going to discover a lot about what's forthcoming. At the weekend. It was supposed to kick off on Saturday with the Orlando Pride playing Chicago Red Stars. On Monday afternoon the athletic reports the Orlando Pride announced that the entire team will be forced to withdraw from the upcoming NWS l.. Challenge Cup Ju to multiple positive covid nineteen test results among players and staff skipping on hair, little bit, but sources tell the Atlantic that multiple players visited a buyer and Orlando the prompted the additional testing which ultimately led to the first positive test. Positive result buyers. Another establishments were opened earlier this month in Florida, so we are waiting to really hear what's going to happen now how it's going to be re constituted what it's GonNa look like. And as we go to record right now, we don't really have very much information. Carli Lloyd has ruled herself out of the tournament. She's picked up an injury and will not play, so she adds herself to the list of US women's national team players. That won't plan this. It's in times like this. When I see the Orlando Pride story that I the only analysis I can conjure up comes from that of Joe Girardi JJ. I know what you're gonNA say once together. Three to one. What you want. It's not going on. The the most important thing is. Everybody can pass their own judgments or how they feel about these players going to a bar before this tournament kicks off I mean personally I'd say it's. On this is anyone, get out of this house right now, but like you're about to take your about to take part in this tournament like. This is just not the time to be acting recklessly and like. Let's call it what it is. Florida's in the middle of this terrible spike right now this virus. It's reckless. So. But I hope they're all okay, first and foremost. Obviously. What matters most will Meglena. WHO's all over this great? Follow at its Meghna. Hang on twitter, She saying are reporting rather that. Sources telling. At MLS which is Pablo Mar that there's an NWS. Lead call for all players tomorrow to discuss the changes to the challenge. Cup schedule looks like preliminary round will now be three games for each team two groups of four teams. So look. We have nothing more to report at this point. We I thought we'd have more to say it. We don't only that you know. We wish the best for their recovery. All Right Mele busy yeah. Caught off site, pottage mail dot com on the interwebs for the email and ask you a soccer pod and caught up side ESPN on Instagram Lots of you got in touch to let us know about your favorite dropped from the shore that you're missing because we don't have access to our library right now, Andrew the Donna drop. Was the most popular and I would save followed by all its scrap. Bloody rubbish rubbish, which chat featured strongly, and we even had a show for our Henry Kissinger Drop Oh God. That is such a good one. I miss it I miss early. The United States has stadiums. Speaking of Maradonna I wanted to mention something. It's you know what today. Is. The thirty fourth anniversary of his hand of God game against England, yeah, that's exactly right. There you have it. We were in studio right now. You can be damn sure you would be hearing him mumbling. On. never fails Jackie Choi. I. Think my favorite question. Yes, I know you guys tried to be nice to Wando. But are there any other players you can think of who have been defined by one moment like Wando against Belgium in two thousand fourteen. Can I go I sure I have three Oh I just picked one. It's a role reversal you. That the one you pick is within. It has to be one of my three. Okay. This guy was a world player of the year going into the nineteen ninety four World Cup finals in the United States. He was utterly brilliant after Italy, lost the Republic of Ireland and made a slow start from then on, he was magnificent, scored five goals in the tournament, made the tournament of the team of the tournament, but he skied the the not the penultimate, the last penalty against Brazil in the final in Pasadena. He hit so high over the bar. It's probably still traveling Roberto Basualdo. What he had an own believe would be good career. He was a brilliant player, and yet I reckon when I say Roberto Baio to money people. That's the first thing they think of the penalty mace to give Brazil the World Cup. I have to hear ultimately. They're both wrong, but. These are guys who may be the biggest moments of their career were so horribly negative. It doesn't define them, but you'll see what I mean okay. Jj I felt like I needed to throw John. Terry in there for slipping and falling on what would have been the winning penalty of Champions League final against Manchester United definitely a big moment in his career defining. You're right like I said he such a great player. Right from that at that moment alone couldn't define his career. But it was probably the biggest single moment he could. He literally it was there for him to win. The keeper dove. The vendors are dove the wrong way yeah. Antares slipped and fell and put it. Why and then the last one I have is if you thought that was wrong, this is even more wrong. However like I said does not define his career, Jj if we asked one hundred people right now. To name one famous moment that involves the Don, I guarantee you. Ninety of them would say the headbutted Marco Materazzi in the World Cup final which is. It's unfair because he's the greatest players ever like. If you made a list of your ten greatest players, he very well might be on that list, and in his in his second act as a manager. He's been great at Real Madrid. But God, the power of that moment was such. that. You do something in the World Cup final. It's immortal. Yeah, it's there forever. So, there, you go I. Think those are from Jackie Choi. From Jackie. Oh look who it is Andrew. It's Alex Jones from Colorado. Is this Real Alex, Jones? Yeah, not the Alex. Jones I wouldn't entertain email from him. Assume that you'll read it in that voice will Andrew Gambling. Is He's? He runs a false flag podcast. This podcast is. Being, run by the Chinese, Diana setup the military industrial complex while our. June joy that was that was at the email that Alex sent. No, this is Nice, Alex Stone Oh I watched the recommended documentary last night, an impossible job about grim Taylor where they had inside access to follow him when they failed to qualify when England failed to qualify for. USA Ninety four I had one man question. Is it common for the assistance to simply sit there and nod in agreement with everything the manager says and not provide provide counterpoint tactical adjustments. The whole time watching. It seemed like there was very little in terms of coaching going on from England bench. Well actually Alex that became one. The man features of this expose. When it went out onto television over twenty five years ago, people were like laughing at assistant manager. Phil Neal so Graham. Taylor Andrew would want to make a change on eight say he wants to get you in right on so ted or go. Yeah, I think we need to get Ian Riot on, and then we'll go. Yeah, she'll get righty on now. Lee. Dixon Lee Li late late goal f back, go left back and then feeling legally. Go left, go back! This was such a parody. Andrew and it became such thing that there is a film available on prime in these United States that I. Now recommend, everybody should watch. It's called Mike Bassett England manager. And it basically. It's a spoof of that whole thing. Mike Bassett is like a second division manager at Norwich, and he gets given this poisoned chalice of the England job and he's got a yes man just like Phil Neal. Assistant coach it's one it might be the funniest football. The most quotable football movie soccer movie that's ever been made I. Like Amazon Prime, Mike, Bassett, England manager. It's so good. I like that who I think of when I was reading that email. This is maybe a little bit unfair, but I felt like every time they would show the Louis Van Hall, Manchester United Bench were Kinda getting the same thing from Ryan Giggs. Kind of a shoulder shrug in a head nod remember. He punched him. So United scored and. Is Like yes, we will make the second place, and he's pumping his fists, and he turns around and gigs. He gives us a pretty STOIC character. Anyway he turns around and he's not happy with Gigs stony-faced and so he punched him in the shoulder. Yeah Yeah Mike Bassett England manager not recommend that highly enough as Scott Rasmussen wonder if you saw Bruce Arena's comments on the national anthem I thought this longtime. It makes sense during Olympics or World Cup, but have never understood the need to play the anthem before every sporting event thoughts, so you're going to bring this up at an hour and ten minutes into the podcast like I feel like this could be its own podcast I know. I know well. Just say what Bruce said. A question where we're playing the anthem professional sporting events in our country, it puts people in Awkward Positions. We don't use the anthem in movie theaters Broadway other events in the US. I don't think it's appropriate to have a national anthem before baseball game MLS Kim and mls most of the pair stunning the food during the national anthem, our international players. They aren't even American soya replaying the national anthem. I'm honored to represent the United States in World Cups and international matches. I think playing. The national anthem is clearly appropriate at those levels. It's kind of one of those things because you just grow up with it, and it's because it's the way that it's always been you just you. Kinda can't imagine sporting events without it is so ingrained in. In like what game is, this is how the game starts the national anthem. But when you do, stop and think about it. There is kind of pardon me. That's like yeah. Why like why do they? Not I don't I don't know if it's right to do it if we shouldn't do it, but. I do think that you can make the argument that it is. It is odd it is a little bit unusual. It's been done for almost one hundred years in baseball since I think afterward war one. are in around that era. Someone can correct me on this by just. Don't think it's particularly respectful. And in the current climate right now, I'm not sure it's particularly necessary. Are Hopeful will be called necessary and helpful because of what it's being at least how I feel about it, because kind of. The, the vessel that's being used to help improve. So yeah, yeah, I, suppose it's your opportunity to for. Defying protests the national anthem. I don't know I'm not sure about it I. I will say I come from a culture underwear before every GE league match, interestingly, not soccer before every g a league match because the Gaelic Athletic Association was such a bastion virus nationalism. They play the Irish anthem. And sometimes, it's on A. It's like they don't have a band to play play on a dreadful like tape and it's crackly some. Tannoy INFORMATICA so. Yeah now. My favorite would be I used to. Broadcast a lot of like high school, Football Games in the area and at these stadiums, sometimes they wouldn't have a lot of times. These schools will send out the choir to sing it, but sometimes they wouldn't do that like you said they would just hold up a tape recorder to the microphone, but it would be like it wouldn't just be a generic national anthem. They would do that of like Whitney. Houston's famous super bowl national anthem. Little Highschool field, being played from a tape cassette onto a microphone I was like this is not coming off the way you think just. No, no, yeah. I I've also seen a guy. Absolutely loaded with Beers and chili dogs at city field. Suddenly stop on his descent to the seats for the national anthem. In stopping the guy behind him wasn't looking. He walks into him and the guy cascades down three steps with his beer. Dogs going everywhere just as the rockets red glare hotdogs everywhere so. I don't know yeah. I. Don't know I. Don't know either I mean sometimes what you know. Sometimes it's it's great and I see players react to it. Motion Oh my God for International Games I really get it I. Don't understand it. Maybe there's something to be said for every single game. Maybe it's not necessary. I don't know I. Actually don't have an answer to that, but I'm saying. I. Guess my basic point. Is that when Bruce Arena says something. That's a little bit out there. There's sometimes. There's this like instinct from American soccer twitter to rip it, and under saying this is one that I wouldn't necessarily vilify him for having this opinion. No me neither and Kaya Hey Andrew and JJ. My name is guy contacting you. Because my brother Brandon is a football player and one of the biggest fans of your podcast. He Turns Fourteen on the twenty eighth of June. This is Sunday and because of COVID. We can't be together for his first birthday. This year terrible I was wondering. If there's anything you guys might be able to say either. In an episode are in the video that it could present him as a gift, he is literally made everyone in the family subscribe to caught offside, and he quizzes us on certain episodes to make sure we listened. Almost. I love inside. Brandon Happy Birthday Brandon. Brandon, Happy Birthday, and I love that you are not just supporting the PODCAST, but you're enforcing listening to the podcast I feel bad now that this was so deep. into the PODCAST I hope he makes it although if he's. You know. That's silly mate if he's. He's Kaya says he's like our biggest fan, so of course he's here till the end listening brand new. Have, have a great one man. and. He goes at the mail bag. that is the mailbag Andrew. Actually, it's not the MAILBAG. Oh! There's one thing quickly. I'll do it quickly. All Right? Okay very very quickly. This was sent to us by a number of you. It's an amazing thread by Slava Mahmoud. So the Russian Premier League has restarted today and holy crap did restart with an enormous, an enormously stupid scandal. An entire team got infected. The team is FC Rostov. Who was scheduled to play against FC socially today? Somehow they fail to buy the quarantine measure. Is someone caught the virus? By the time they're restart training camp was over that spread through the entire roster. What happened next Rostov or battling for place in the UEFA Champions League petition sought to reschedule the match Soichi. A bottom feeder is actually a thinly disguised farm team to Zenit Saint. Petersburg team owned by Putin's cronies. Cronies and guaranteed to win the title this year so SC SOCI- basically came out and said screw you. This is your problem were not rescheduling. The League utterly dropped the ball and allowed all this to happen. So Rostov was left to figure out what to do what they had decided to do. And this was on. Friday the kids and they are actually kids. The oldest is nineteen. The youngest is sixteen all the word three days ago. None of them practice since match basically just going to school via zoom all this time, so they got together traveled associate to play against. Professionals. The country went ballistic. were castigated on social media to which they responded with an Instagram Post, showing a sad looking schoolboy the Post said. Hey, we're all school buys at one time. The field is even the ball is round. Let's play. What Score this game? It was four one at halftime. It was seven one towards the end. Alexander Corcoran scored a hat trick. He was he recently don't time for viciously attacking a man in a cafe and beating him up with a chair and he's playing against these children. While scored a goal. They did get a goal. That's something my guy. What their objective of qualifying for Europe, but The CARINTHIAN Spurs is alive in Saudi. Can you imagine that phone call straight to Putin's office have Ladimir. Does a team that needs to be. We got to give them this game. Crush them. If they die, they die. Man There you go what podcast? This was this? Yeah we'll be back next week more likely than not. We will be discussing Liverpool's. First title in the League in thirty years. That is probably what is on the horizon. Among, many other things race for the top four relegation, we'll see what developments happened with. WWL AND LS is getting closer to starting also by the way Jj this coming weekend is the wedding. My sister's wedding that on officiating. I'm in the early stages I'm still trying to map out like how this all works I think what I'm realizing. Is that I? have been to tons of weddings in my life and yet apparently I didn't pay an ounce of attention. Any ceremony because I don't know what to do. Wow, but this is a. To Be Small Cermony right? Yeah, because. You can't have a wedding that they were planning on having, but they still want to just get married now. We'll do a party later. So. It's going to be a very small ceremony I want. I I don't know I have to get on this because it's. It's very very soon. I WANNA make everybody is my goal is make. Everyone is uncomfortable as possible I want to just start it with like dearly beloved. Let's go around the room right now. Each say who were voting for. As uncomfortable for everyone is possible. Oh, drink, just get horrendously drunk the night before and be stupidly. Hang Hung over a little bit drunk officiating by the way they've got to give you their vows. So. Yeah, they're going to read their own vows. What are you worried about? Your making a face furrow unique unique. You need to prove the vows. No, I don't. Right in the middle of it when the guy is reading his. If it gets really Moshe, you should just whisper under your voice Oh. Jesus Christ just like that. You should say God is just wet blanket. Really Marion my sister. While you know how it goes next week. 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Manchester City Slip Again

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Manchester City Slip Again

"Great News there's a quick way you can save money switch to Geico Geico could help you get great coverage at a great price and it only takes fifteen minutes to see if you could save fifteen percent or more more on car insurance go to GEICO DOT com today and see how much you could save. Welcome insulates edition of ESPN SEM. I'm Dan Thomasson joined by Stevie nickel lost again through today Guy Marcatti joining us a little later on to talk about what was an extraordinary day in the Bundesliga plus his reaction to the euro. Twenty twenty draw we start though in the premier league and what a decisive weekend a pre approved to be regarding the title race as Ian Finished Manchester City to new calls for united so an Anfield Liverpool beating brighten by two goals. One meaning yergin trump side. Now have eleven point lead at the top of the table. Steve Nikko. It's over isn't it. In what could a C that means. It's not over. Brits just a little his breath offer I mean it really is the fact the in fact. mathematically it's over about the magically as well because it's a fact that's a fine filigree without soclean dot means is not over but let's be honest they would have to be some uh-huh some incredible problem at Liverpool. They've lost one game in almost a season. A half and the gut you lose four between the end ended the season and everybody else has to win. It seems almost impossible for the chase in park. If a madden look it was a mad watching the game because you could just feel the tension anfield seeping through overseas especially in Alison got sent off during comes on makes that mistake always leaves lease the two two yet again. We're in a situation. Where may we're picking hose regarding livable considering how well they've thought it but it's another game without clean sheen? Yeah I mean something not quite right then we have to point owed so yet may seem considering will the hour our an elite. They'll picking holes but the fact is that you know defensively. The wish aware last season and I think as far as scoring goals and create and clear chances. I think the behind what they've been doing previously as well so it just kinda tells you how good they are we can set hugh. Don't honestly see well. It can be better and it can be better up. The fact is is there right now. Are we bail anybody else. Even with those small small holes it were picking say defensively. I mean this. Today's a great example of what the problem has been for me since the start of the season when you are playing in the Premier League and away from home pretty much scored three goals to make sure you get three points. You can't keep doing that. He come and you go in you castle and you get to an end up with a point because you can't defend and you can't defend because you won't play the defense you have and the lakes of autumn Andy Play in central midfield that in founding dean you at the bike who who doesn't don't give silly goals away but it makes mistakes. The free kick that led to the equalizing goal is as has an experienced experienced in my opinion as I sailed back. You know some folded he can get away with in the middle of the park. You can get a we without twenty five fifty hours for you. Go Celena today. We're GONNA finish second. I think so you know I am thinking well the whole season. I said less than what I'M GONNA win the Premier League and they just get going and going and gone but you know I find that I find it hard to believe that they're going to do the same between now and men and city I did share. That goes out the score. Three goals but capable of DNA. You know the cutest three today Bernardi Silva Djoussouf's for those chances. I sterling had one rates at the end so they could have had five. No question bought the days when you don't take those chances because you can't defend the bikes actually the buck. Save big surprise then city couldn't get the win away against new call so you could argue the biggest surprise though at Stamford Bridge Chelsea. Great runner form take on Western westbound side of looked terrible of late. Yes West time. We got the win. You don't surprise considering what we thought leading up to the Game I. I said that couldn't find a positive for West Ham because they hadn't shown anything they hadn't shown the defend there hasn't really shown that going forward the go to goals and the one thing that hasn't really shown was off eight and of course Chelsea upbringing swashbuckling. But have them watch the game and thinking voted no westbound get a free week. It's a London. Darby is a great opportunity to show some spirit. Better Chelsea have to Champions League mid week and it was a crazy game at Valencia for the foster ninetieth up and down and autumn and not as a huge physical age that I think waste. How mahad going into this game? Plus the fact frank no understanding because chomping league because he he has to make changes he can't just keep fighting the same eleven so he leaves Conti Up. You know ends up how how many please you ru Explained Pedrosa Valley on Yeah so allied with a the physical the physical aspect over the they had to go through during the week. The changed the team. And then West Palm Komo ensures something Sean for most of the season and is just pure pew fight and desire and determination. I mean I'll always times baseball's in my opinion. What defenders that tells you that Chelsea? Well the well no. But they just didn't have the extra sting in the legs and couldn't produce it when I when I- extra string extra thing is being applied by Tommy Abraham. The father sees them they just showed how much they are going to miss him. He needs to get back sooner rather than later. Obviously the most has genius of because we just utter well. Let's say if you don't have a proper backup to your strike and that was ever which seemed a strange thing to see. We're talking about a French international. A Guy Woke Up. Ah World Cup weather but is best. jrue assured he can put the ball in problem is he's not he's not planning. He's not kick the ball highly season. So you can expect him to step on the field and do with Tommy. Abraham's is being done because he's been a huge surprise to me. I didn't think he had the ability. But she'll far he's selling meetable mean well. How three wins three Josie Marina Spurs three cruising Zing? Boom if I could have got late one as well the Cruzan Cruzan for for maybe fifteen twenty minutes and as for me Spurs. Yeah three now up here but it could have been a couple known born with boomer thin fos half no question. I'm from me could have been a couple of goals all they had CIANCI's it opportunities but they didn't tell them and I think that's the biggest difference for these these two teams today you know. They've got daily hourly they've got. Ken didn't even school. You know the they've got who can funny things off because I think if bullman Bournemouth both had some finishes the game on a whole different plus if fact you see at three no beware crews. Yeah the foster until the second goal and and for me it it was an even game after that it was a spell went three. It was like well. Let's lay so then deficiencies that the shoulders particularly from the stop. This season defensively came back to your home. Just remind you of the Games are taking place tomorrow. And the Premier League some interesting encounters also also of course the first game in which is in charge away against Norwich city. Meanwhile Sheffield United huge match magic for Marco silver at Everton has traveled to high buying less than Manchester United Against Aston Villa at Old Trafford. If you want things about these games the thing about them later on in the show what they we saw in the Bundesliga and winning two one away against defending champions if I am unique meanwhile Borussia Dortmund down to ten men for much of the game. They managed to hold onto a two one victory over Hertha Berlin elsewhere. lifezette go top of the table. After three two victory over Boston table powder boom quite the day. Then in the boonies. They get for more on his uncle's obviously by Munich. Losing at home and losing at home to Peter Bosses Losing has got to be the biggest shock of the day Hansie flicks the MIDAS touch after taking over from Kovac even talk of him continuing even beyond next summer in that role but chickens came home to roost. A little bit again fire Labor coups at the obvious takeaway is speed kills Leon. Bailey's got plenty of it and you're up against two will ultimately are two makeshift centreback in Havi Martinez and Davi dollar Bangkok Bankok twice on the counter equally. Though I'm not sure it's time to go out there and Nash your teeth and pull your hair throw the baby out with the bathwater. The reality is by Munich. Created loads of chances in this game Robert dossier especially. He probably had his worst night of the of the campaign. That's far missing was He giving credible one on one missing a couple of other sitters. So in other words buying still creating out there you might worry about is about her playing on on Sunday they get the win. They extend their lead once again of is if your life take your happy because you're top of the table overnight and you're still blitzing teams three inside half an hour away to a way to powder more that simply impressive although you wonder at some point about Jillian Gutman's teams and and then do they expend too much energy and is their ability to hang onto leads to manage games. Obviously they got away with it against Potter born but it is something that might come to the fore but tell you what the the way they hit you out of the gate unprecedented or unparalleled anyway in Germany and you can bet that they're contenders until the very end. Tell you won't contender until the very end is hurt to Berlin. Your Clinton wins new team. Their home debut against Borussia Dortmund Things not going to the plan. Little Bit of relief. A little bit of solace for the embattled Lucian Five on the Dortmund Bench. But I think a lot about his future will depend and on how they do in the Champions League really your three points clear at the top of the League after a two one. Victory Away Against Alabama's is an early on Saturday. But of course the big game in Spain tomorrow in Madrid Athleti taking on tasks for more than that I said from Gap Antoine makes his return to the Wanda Metropolitano returned to his old club. Athletico Madrid obviously Graffman down the colors of Barcelona and they'll be looking for points to keep up with round Madrid. Who won on Saturday it's funny. When you think about it in some ways you wonder whether I wish we were still there and perhaps wished he was still at the one metropolitan because he's had a tough time of it For Barcelona this season really all of Barcelona. Barcelona haven't played particularly well. They do have some injury still Both fullbacks and Jordi Alba was Monday. Also out which makes things pretty easy for a nest of whether we're going to see that front. Three of Grease Mint Suarez a messy which seems to click only intermittently. I'm backing ready to go and and sneak the win over over Barcelona Barcelona for me still up and down. I liked him in mid week. but I let the at home in some ways as if they drop points here. I think they're mentally at least if not mathematically saying goodbye to the league title and goodness mean we're still at the beginning of December number wage. Wurley for that. Thanks guys. Well let's see what actually goes against the stats. Bossa haven't lost away against Athleti since the two thousand and ten and in a League of evidence against them in eighteen games. Steve you can stop so The gunman either. I'm GONNA miss e I mean messy break. No settlers during the week was absolutely sensational and partnership with Suarez Arrays. I mean I don't see any defense on the planet right now. If the two of them Moraga overnight been able to deal with it. So I like to defy the athletic goals in the NBA score many goals the school one in five of the last six games so I I don't I don't see I don't see all of course we'll be leaving the show tomorrow. Be Sure to join your off on you Stephen However Craig Burley will be joining. CBS give his reaction to that. Big Game in Madrid tomorrow. And Sarah you've taken so swallows INSA A spa. Meanwhile as a play lots pommery Similan Napoli Bologna Verona host Roemer for a lot more on those matches just one point separate entities and injured at the top of Stadia. So it's really looking like a case of one of those who's going to blink first situations on paper and I do say on paper Both you vent this and meantime have winnable games. On Sunday you vent is hosting saas swallow and injure hosting spot but look a little bit closer Sir and you wonder whether there might not be an upset in the works for both these teams so swallow incredibly unpredictable. There vary attacking side. I don't quite know what they're going to get. Their fearless doesn't always work out for them but they do have the individuals who can spring surprise against the ULA team that I think mentally. We're so focused on beating athletic mid week. Securing top spot and their champions e group The big question mark again for Muddied Society is. What do you do with of your front three? Obviously these Renaldo is going to start looking at. That's gone the other flank and it looks as if going just has the edge over policy the ballot at centre forward position. But you know what I think this is going to be a moveable. Feast all season long. Because I've been that productive for you vent just for that of course still no. CNC nobody midfield. Looks like Godinez going to be given the day off at the back. But I think well you can't be in doubt about is that Donyell Kante has really prioritized games against so-called lesser teams lifespan and and You know he can tolerate dropping points against big teams. He loses it again smaller teams or supposedly smaller teams as we saw of course in the Champions League in narrow earlier game against against Slavia Prague So potential banana-skin. Actually even though it might not seem that way in my opinion for both you and injure technology truth brought to you by Geico now. You will certainly send any text about your supervisor to who your supervisor. What's Janet's fangs? Did she lose abet. We thought we'd whacker sent. Don't wait no no no no no truth. It's so easy to switch and save on car insurance at GEIKO DOT COM Janet. I think my was hacked or something. Go fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more thank you very much God. Meanwhile in Romania the JOE is made for the Euro Two thousand nine hundred finals next summer here it is on its glory in group. Eight Italy Wales and Switzerland or Jones again in Group B Denmark Finland Belgium and Russia in Group C. It's the Dutch Ukraine Austria and then one of the four teams will qualify via the playoffs in Group Day England Croatia and the Czech Republic will also be joined by a team entering via the playoffs in group e Spain Sweden Poland then another playoff win a group F. That's the big one is Jimmy France Portugal and and then another playoff win at for a lot more on the jaw gap. It might take some people a while to fully wrap their heads around euro. Twenty twenty of course This tournament unlike any other at the anniversary tournament. It's not going to be hosted at one place. It's spread all over Europe from From Glasgow and London in the West all the way to Baku Ho. That's all the way to the to the east so these groups that were drawn. There's different dynamics. The top seeds get a whole bunch of games at home which of course is also is also going to impact things. I think tremendously so if you're the likes of of Spain if you're the likes of Italy Holland and of course England Then it'd be pretty happy. Tell you. WHO's not going to be happy? Germany Portugal and France the last two World Cup winners with of of course the defending euro champions Portugal sandwiched in between. They're all in the same group we don't know who the fourth one is. Because that's another one of the vagaries of of this draw that there's still issues to be settled via the playoffs but it presents a really interesting dynamic. Now remember a this is a two thousand fourteen year old like the last one which means that some third-placed teams will advance Portugal. Of course advances the third place team last time around they. He did it without winning a game and of course they went on to be crowned European champion so doesn't necessarily mean one of these big three Portugal. Germany and France are going out early But it does mean that you have to be careful whoever whoever that that fourth-placed or that the fourth seed in that group is going to be you know that teams are GonNa go all out against them because you simply cannot even contemplate dropping points if you want to advance as third seed so all to play for and it starts this summer and tell you what some people don't like all the traveling around but it's going to be different. It's going to be good sir. Thanks Gab Gab. Sense of fun though very different than most people That as a warning but England of the favorites so they win this good fun to them. Women stay a seven to two after today's draw. You've been a big supporter of them. I know you like look at them. Yeah why wouldn't you know the the been free flow. Oh and free scoring the more importantly on top of that. I think the pre stronger the bike if they can get a soul is sent by Lee making a facebook what what is giving you any. IDMS only at the bank qualifying. Certain Conditions Kossovo go public. You're argue the best rate biting the world right now Alexandra choice you chill both doing really well million a and Shannon sent so you've got a good base to defend if y'all out to the talent of gold fall within the good chance good for right now telling another team. The you think maybe being better form when you could argue. It's the one hundred percent Belgium. Good as well Dudley. I'll I'll give you bail Jim. I'm looking at Italy. I can't believe you're talking about the defensive rock and that's what being Linda pivoting hold on a second defendant not again again defended today you look at the front thirty yes question. Yes who's what was one of the main reasons reasons why Liverpool wanted to Champions League Liverpool off only lose one game will last year. What was a huge reason? The the defense England Defense Social Alexander. John was garbage. Chill wills garbage. Maguire's garbage you got a big wire dummy. Maguire is so bad. There's so many paid eighty million on. He's really settled traffic light. It doesn't make sense. He's moved there one team. I'll tell you what Harry originally raped by lifelock sent about unless By the way at the one week point and elsewhere thrown out you. You didn't see it out so it's not like going forward. Gosh you shed. She'll defense the feds. Have you partnering with with your McGuire. That's that's the question right now. But it's a really solid defense so you oh you clever you go. You're clever clogs office in Denver up a solid partner. Say what's your victim. I think England will be the boat would you. You don't agree that the England of today is better than England that lost the creation. They said we fellow World Cup. Yeah you know the fact that you think about it means that is a possibility. That was the fact that they go to the real world up and you know a far better side would that not meet you think that they have a good the opportunity for better things have stretch. They've got a bedside is a good enough side to do this on the big stage. We'll find out. I think that's always. It is going to be huge. I think New England GonNa win. It said that's an issue. You're just said you think well I say yes right. I agree that we do well. So they're not GONNA win. It said he's GonNa wait. You're right twenty twenty Stephen. I'm GonNa say England Belgium Franz No. That's the thing. Listen a competition absolutely one hundred percent I love. It depends on the time how you perform so regardless of a great wait you might be right now. It's impossible for anybody to tell Rosie O.. By two we veer one. And so when we make your prediction as to when we'll be in we you see when we see the qualifying runs and see how we don't even know even look at the front stone straight right. Yeah they are not well now but the get results yes so it was very difficult legal to children who say well you know what fronts going fronts. He's not going to wonder whether right but you don't walk the ability and equality. They go to please the off Yup these stout tournament well and the steamrolling teams which is possible. Then you may pick fronts looking the fees to. Let's say by the way more on the euros. Now you can hear a special segment on our podcast involving crepe Bernie Taylor trauma and Jon Champion Ian in down the League play offs have started with a bang. Haven't they golden egg giving a two one league going into that. Second leg against Clue America on Sunday. Meanwhile we see the other two legs start tonight lay on that one. Three three after a thrilling. I like me WanNa see very much in control their own destiny three nail up taking on because that's also tonight and then also on Sunday. It's Santos Against Monterey that one five to offer seven thriller in the First Monterey with the advantage seem nickel predicting not quite the same the drama and the Premier League tomorrow three draws just the one win less taking on struggling Everton watch over three in the united in Villa staving maybe because I think united a vulnerable and they will have to go forward at home home for me a a real solid team that that when the opportunity arises will try and get forward as well and and you know united. Don't don't scare anybody anymore. Old Trafford and I think Velgo rally school and their performance will show that so. I think we'll get some. Its Own George. Good result for us. No yes. Yeah yeah they just can't be beat Steve. Nicol thank you very much you liked. Take more we've got to is not moved anything because extra time is up next. Welcome into extra-time. Thank you as always for your tweets just stevie today very intimate. Lots of questions for you. Stephen I on. Why did you hate Marina? Oh me up today is so set you up as they say win about the city he may be over Chris Golovin Kevin when when he steps Elaine and his charming as anything. Isn't it boy every game. Now have breakfast with him. That's been smile. Yeah regardless of what you think is all about a nice thing to do. This is smart. Move so Camogli. Chris is moving for that size from what he's doing. We're suppose I think I think he's a job on his hands. I think you know he was talking. uh-huh that he's inherited it really late so I think one of them was probably defensively. Yeah but I think he's finding ah defensively I think is tested El Pollo was supposed to losing too many goals. I think the lakes of tone all developed I think the pasta best and so he probably thinks still tactically. He can walk with them on attaining field and so the problems they have 'cause ship in too many goals but I think he mainframe that he could make some new sales is to bring the best scoring midfielder. In the Premier League's Gerald sub goal to argue against. I mean whoever who've said exactly the greatest tells you how good debris because Giraldi sensational and the strike. I thought there's no way he's going to be able to beat the goalkeeper apart from the high head to the trajectory over. But Oh my goodness colleagues. Note that hits the Underside of the bombings. Say Yeah I'll tell the war. It's very hard to disagree. Why isn't livable keeping clean sheets? I think a combination of just positionally living the wrong sports. Did you mind the referee today. Doing what he did I think he was unlucky. Because I think the referee free yes I think if you look in fact he actually thought I was ready because he couldn't. I'm sure he walked behind. I think don't the free kick was. Yeah he's walked behind him so often between walking behind dunk and the fight. It was a a huge wall in front of him. Because he's not the biggest guy I think he just thinks without actually visually. CNN drian still organized the wall. I think he thinks six hundred on Donald Stedman ready so we blew the whistle so thinking so he's unfortunate that once he's taken by counselor Armenia. Get that goal scoring form again. I think so I'll be oldest. I think he is you question since the less game when he got caught he's probably struggled to build a percent. He's not he's not any better than he was before your time. So the fact that is still scoring goals for me means that you can only get better. Should the REF Brian Away so and he did on the free kick and I should read the questions before constantly lent. well as I said. I'm going to suggest that hot. He seen a dion styling on the post still organize the wall would know bloom. That wasn't what was Alison. I'm thinking you know when you spend every day in them company Koch in bowl saving balls. Hugs not letting anything get posture. It's it's second nature really as completely completely second nature. And so as soon as he comes the bulks it can see it and he'll understand as the bulks put us almost leak. Somebody's taking over his arms and he's still pulled just experience almost is because you're closing in real time title and real time. That happens really quickly. Yeah but I can tell you when you're on the field you can't read situations the name percents reading situations before they even happen at such speed. And that's why I'm saying is it's an instinctual thing it does because I'm pretty sure knows what's the foot. These attackers try to stop. You still stick. And he's on away right from Liverpool if Scotland progress to the euro could they get out. They grew no Czech Republic. The Oakland though frazier though listen to we get there is a wooden Wen Wen We're happy to be there. Well the Planning Lind Zil rivalry but the fighters that really with any of the Scotland plus get an England team. I don't think he would wear had Scotland so they get there. It's a victory Robinson. Early predictions Right you re predictions next week. Scottish League Cup between Celtic and Rangers the final range of A. What did Steve Eat on Thanksgiving Talkie and if you're late to go and look at it did you did We did a Thanksgiving in this very very room. Rights vague fighting's giving yes. Food ranking took. Tokyo yes greedy and Mush potatoes. And that's it well age. I had vegetables that bullies but it wasn't on the ball winded as you. Well know asking how the board digitally allows who else can you add. Vegetables the charts. Yes Brooklyn and what did you have to wash it down of advisor and we've got a massive Christ. The two girls weren't behaviors degrees. Your I think they didn't I I. I always makes present. Might have told you about that. That's in your off tomorrow. 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You talk about a group of death and eventually you end up with one of slight mutilation but but this genuinely is a a group that's going to do great harm to one of those teams. Although four third placed teams do go through so there is an escape route for whoever comes out worst if those those three heavyweight absolutely and when you went into sixteen it was actually group that went into the term is the most difficult group and who came out of that group Portugal to keep in mind. Let's third-placed is team Germany. Out A group F they will play a quarter final game at home which is another slight to this entire process. Listen from UEFA because when that first came out I immediately asked our research group. I said wait a minute that means Germany could play at home. That third place team. That's something you away from. One devoid void. Guess what when you're convoluted. That's what you get. I'm I'm betwixt and between here. Because my my dot hall positively around. Actually what a great group. The Italians have fought with Switzerland talking where with no disrespect to those countries. But I can't look past group. D which is angling. Croatia Czech Republic could be Scotland. It was an abuser in. This is in capital letters F. and make the game's going. I'm optimistic. A good teams. Ah He might go into well they will go into the grip with the arch rival England. What prospect that would be? Well for next ex- summer all lanes lead to London begun in Bucharest. When we return Ian Darke join the show will go through the group adapt and a few others in just a moment Welcome back into ESPN studios. We've just gotten the final draw from next summer's European Championships. Craig Burley Taylor twelve inspection. Salazar Studio we've got Ian Darke Ark joining us from London Ian. Let's start with group F. It is the group of death. Exactly I guess what we wanted right. There always has to be a group of death even if there isn't in one but we really do have won this. I call it group. F frightening straight away. Look at Portugal. I think this is a good team a much better Portugal team than the won on the championship four years ago quite Dow aside beat France in the final against all expectations. You've got Germany. Yogi love trying a reboot of the team With some success as well on France the world champions the looks on the faces of the coaches as those names came out of the out of those balls. There They were thinking. I think the somebody's possess huma. But I tell you what we're neutral we're going to be showing it on television through the summer eight scout to be fantastic fun that group telling me you're opening sense when you look at that group. How are you slotting those teams one two three? Who's your favorite My favorite is France. But when I look at it and it's hard for me to say group at death twin four third-placed teams always going to be one eight assume it is and I go back to two thousand and sixteen group. F was the exact same thing determined. The most difficult group going growing in. Portugal didn't win a single game. They end up winning the European Championship. So I look at it and say yeah while. Portugal has only beaten France one side of the last ten then in Germany having beaten France since two thousand fourteen. I assumed whoever's GonNa Finish third and this is going to get through so while we do say it's a group of death. I look at it and say because for the sixth third place teams going through. I think that takes away from this group more so than in years past. When we'd say Oh wait a minute? One of these teams isn't going through. I love when the director later on site co two. The three manages love they show and Santos underworld set and smiling going. This is a nightmare nightmare because I think the biggest pressure is going to be Yogi. Love the German manager because of the lack of momentum they hide from the World Cup will they would've debacle. This big changes Angie's there in terms of the playing staff experienced players have gone. Did that pick up some momentum. during the qualification process will play better but are finally France against Damn. I also plan Portugal. Portugal or one Lewis. AIDS are so difficult to play against plus a sprinkling of Stardust August with Yang Zhou Felix. A big story for them Mojo for as we're not going to be by the time the tournament comes around. 'cause he's he's met there is no. It's not easy. Cutting injury event is as we speak but ultimately that's GonNa be the headline grip but after Germany of the team under the most pressure. Yukking low. Do you feel like he's. He's managing for his job. Oh absolutely he's he's monitoring for his job and when he when he faced a team like Portugal came when you see that plastic from from Lanchester southeast not not those Silva Bruno Fernando from their deeper sporting only issue. They've got and we talked to earlier. If you're watching as the Senate opposition with aging play. We agree but Portugal. I've always had a framework and then the Fed Cristiano Renaldo bet more than not less than now working for. He's not playing. Well they have other players and not team that can win games and I feel it next group Yogi. Love will be under the most pressure. What do you think I mean? If you look at getting relegated information's lead the World Cup performance. It's is it fair to ask is Yogi MOF managing effectively for his job to get out of this group and if he does. I'm a little surprised. He's still manage in Germany quite honestly honestly with the way the the World Cup win. I think that is on German. Like to have seen little pressure on him whatsoever. Almost say that Don. We're going to give you another other cycle now. Logan I'd say four or five months and said they're too young to be considered favorites. But now you have a young inexperienced team that that has won trophies. The way you love has said it in the press e e one hundred percent right. You'd look at this and I go back to my point. Guys third place team most likely go. How much pressure is really on his mind? Management Skills and Tennessee after the World Cup when he change things as an evolution for Germany is he Ryan Hamilton boating. And he retired and Mueller as well and Mueller retired from international football. That's crazy and if you don't retire yeah please. Because he gets a plethora of entities. He's going to ring. GotTa get those guys by retired me Mubarak and said Ooh I need. You know I'd be like good luck. Never shake his hand. I'll tell you what I'm sorry. The way he's going about an adult is wrong and I don't think is right and I think that's one of the reasons is going to be under severe pressure. Sure I was GONNA say in France Australia new idea where as I in. What do you make of your and his status atop this German national team in the program we lost in their but the point remains? It is a Down there let me ask you this. What's a successful tournament and what saves Yawkey more from from a German standpoint is it? Does he have to get back to back in a minute. If you look back to the if you look if you look back to the to the semis quotas. Renault lost to France and France. WHO's the game of the tournament more so than you go to the World Cup I honestly think is going to have to take a semifinal again or or even for Germany. I think if it's if it's an average if they win this group and then lose on penalties in the next. I know what I'm saying that he's got to do it in style. He's got to do a convincingly on the other hand he finished third and then your host of quarter-fial game in Munich like this could work in his favor. I think Craig's one hundred percent right though he's got the most pressure on him but for third place teams go through something like okay. How much pressure really is there on Ian? We've got you back right now. What would you consider a successful tournament then for this German team well? I always the expectation because it's Germany and because of what they've done historically and traditionally in tournaments is really nobody's that satisfied until they get to at least the semi final anything less than that will be regarded as failure. And I think would cost this time Yogi. Okay love is Japan with Taylor. I am very very surprised. He survived after the World Cup because they were absolutely shocking or we expect somebody from Group F to be there when this tournament ends July Twelfth. We know it will begin June twelfth in Study Olympic in Rome Italy and Turkey and group. Maybe that's what we should transition next and focused attention. Look I'll l. make the case that Italy had a really easy qualifying group take out a pretty easy group right. That's fair to say no. They didn't to rebel to Janine smile on his face because he didn't want to give away. Right let me tell you With all respect to the other teams in this group I think Italy will be very pleased with the way. It's unfolded Talk behalf got better in the last couple of years. There's no doubt about that. Switzerland are always. I tough team to play against in terms of the wait is play the Welsh. Have enough. Okay you can say well. The romsey event got Gareth. Bale yes but I think it takes a little bit more than as Tina proved too much and they have the best player on the planet So I think from Italy's perspective you are right. You know the the grip states. There's a little easy for them but just the plead Raymond Chimney. Hot them say all the way the younger players combined with experienced players. You've got to come back from his engineer. Inches long term event is not gonNa work you experience of BANACCI still. They're young selects newly sense BEREA and of goals upfront which obviously the gone in the qualifiers against we could opposition. But if I was Italian. No we'll be super excited about going to this too but I think it's also more so craig talked about. They now press. They're more progressive. They keep possession tape got paid to their style. They're completely against their traditions. So you look at the group and say okay yeah optimistic. But I think the optimism was already there because they've progressed quickly after the debacle and sixteen. I disagree a little bit with Craig in in the sense that I do think the Welsh may have something here. If Ramsey can stay healthy bail figures out his club situation. Then you throw Daniel James in it but when you look at this group it's the Italians to lose and I think that's fair no matter how easy qualifying was the way the Italians have gone about it in changed their their DNA. I think Craig's right. I think they're more progressive. When they're more exciting to watch as opposed to traditionally you know we're going to sit in we're GONNA defend we're GONNA be good inset pieces? They've got little element of surprise. That the whole sorry and actually I think has changed and we know we have Sarah on on our network have every weekend and it used to be Italian. Football was known to be a little bit. Dull boring. Methodical was cut to notch. It was defensive. You Stereo no no all the time but I am the main set as if you watched Napoli if you watch teams event an all all these teams the way that we try and play play Fear and Tina the looking for a more exciting style of football and I think that's what he's trying to bring to the national team because because recently trying to the other way the old way for actually hasn't really Wa- No Games in group. Eight will be played in Rome but also Baku in other by Sean Italy goes ten for ten in their qualifying there. A plus thirty three goal differential again getting back the fact that they haven't really been tested yet IAN. Are you buying so far. What we've seen of this rebirth from the Italian national team? I think there are absolute bankers withdraw. They've got particularly guaranteed two goals to games at home in Rome. It is an emerging team. It's a change. TV looks is a nice mix as the boys have been saying after that in that group is a real fight. Never write off. Switzerland there are mighty hard team to beat. They could always nick a point of view as for Turkey remember. They've got the coach that took them to the World Cup semifinal back from two thousand and two and they beat France in one of the qualifies. And you've got Wales as well only at Ramsey but really. That team is made up of a lot of championship players. Daniel James is pace gives them a chance. I think Ryan Giggs. We'll be rubbing his hands and say well. Well at least this gives us a chance to second place. Whereas of course semi-finalists how quickly the Welsh couldn't get him into tournament for years and all of a sudden two thousand sixteen sixteen-year-olds where they were absolutely brilliant? A No Ryan Giggs is taken back to the again but at two point mail do have championship. Plays Second thea players clears in the team. And when you get to these major tournaments all they have to finish those one of the four best third-placed teams and they get through and we've seen it happen so I wouldn't write him off. Let's move onto groupie this group. That would be split between Saint Petersburg and Copenhagen. We've got Belgium who falls a Russia Denmark. Pa Not too far to them northernmost cities. He's that'll be hosting during this tournament and Finland I ever major international tournaments thousand or one by the way you're looking at the US fifty thousand two hundred one way to win investments It might have gone up after the draw. Though this was the group was going to ask you that question before. We came on air in in Petersburg to Copenhagen assessment of her father as look workers in Russia. That was there for Finland just to get after so many years is a great great story for them. I was like Denmark Tournament. Like this you know they've they've got aquatic. They've got history and they'll also used to have again a plethora of really good at talking talented players they don't have an an abundance anymore They will not convince in play against Republic of Ireland The modesty to squeak through Russia helping bear in recent years. I have to say it as a lot. More optimism about the the Russians. But I think it's hard for me this moment looking at Lowe's to to look past Belgium and Russia as the top to a uh-huh grip think when the tournaments all said and done we'll look groupie and be talking about one team and that's Belgium not with with all due respect to Denmark Finland and and even Russia to a certain extent I understand obviously two maybe three teams group are going to get out. The truth of the matter is Belgium's The headliner Their golden generation players are in the prime of their career. And this is the last opportunity. I think that referral Martinez in Belgium have to win a trophy. And who knows what they're not. This may be the last tournament amid Martinez was sniffing around Inner Miami and MLS. He's been linked with Arsenal job. And obviously divorce a Lotta. What's going on there? I I just think Roberto Martinez good friend of ours here. D- SPN looks at this and says this is this generation's best chance it may be his last chance to win a trophy the Belgian. How for Tallin not getting any younger than feel any younger cycle we? We can't keep saying this. Is the golden older generational because Gordon. The site as the Fort Resolve the Kaku. He's an he's moved from united. He's confident again. Any score goals for fun for enter the might have one of the strikers in Europe but a tennis tournament comes around and when we talk about Belgium. I wonder what you make of this team. Are they the favorites. Everett's that many seem to have them as on paper thing that I should have won the World Cup to be honest with you. I think they have the team. They didn't do it. They folded in the semi final stage. And I'm agreeing with Craig. I think that defense is aging and just rocking a bit when it comes to a European championship against the top players in Europe. I think this time they mike get found out that time just might have gone Russia. I have developed into a slick side. Now's Uber's getting lots of goals from. I think those two will be the two who go through. I just wonder isn't Finland a fantastic story making it through Taboo Kooky the city striker. He's got ten goals in qualifying. Could they be this year's Iceland and Craig Romantic. He couldn't dad's the romantic knock. Craig by the way No that's that's you know. I don't think so. Everyone loves story and everyone does. I doubt thank you. We appreciate it very much. When we return on the other side John Champion wrong August down and bring down the three remaining groups for next year old? I got the welcome John. Champion back into the studios here a few more groups together. We are just minutes removing. Not only reason it's been negatively by Mr Negative here for time to reflect. Well if anyone knows about negative all right so we left off groupie. Let's start with group. C that's the group that we played in Amsterdam Westerdam's and Bucharest Ukraine. Actually Pot. One team out of this group. They'll be joined by the Netherlands Austria and then the play off the winner one the incomplete groups here but boy the Dutch. You gotta be feeling pretty good. No John I think you've got to be really good about that. I mean that that group to me plays out in a reasonably straightforward fashion which the the Netherlands Ukraine runners up and the the other two sites and that probably get enough points off the other two to be one of the best third place teams. So I think Australia it really up against that. They've got a couple of talented Alber now. Now to bitch not enough though. I think to threaten the to meet with Austria. They had this very similar going into the euros in France Johnson. Two Thousand Sixteen the other great wrec the qualification into the disaster So again we talked to the foster Groupie groupie group see. I think he'll looking at the favorites in the Netherlands will be pretty happy with what the goal I think. This team is interesting for me primarily because like Italy we. I don't know if they're real yet. Do we well. I you know all the like him but I think rural women's team these managerial roll. Well there to have good young players coming through Obviously I have been champions. League final Semifinal is dead so obviously not been Hob Bob. We'll go beat Germany and Japanese. The best team at the moment but the German and the qualification for your ticket who is going to school the goals and it tastes as we alluded to other. It's going to be a fair way to go some feel particularly likes of Taylor. I have no idea what you guys were. Talking about. Microphone microphone was turned off. Sorry just get in all seriousness. You look at it and I do think that's the best centreback tandem in the world and I only picture picture if they had a Ruud van Nistelrooy or something like that. Then we'd be talking about one of this has been a top four teams in the tournament. Now they can collectively find a way to score goals. But I do think in the end. The number one topic of discussion at the end of the term. It's GONNA say they didn't have a person or or collective that could score the goals calls and put it away. I think it's going to bite them in the end maybe in a quarter-final but it is good to have the Dutch back in a major tournament. Missed the last two. And that's the team especially let's be honest. Twenty four teams set up till void. The Dutch not making the tournament. Because what. They're Becca if you think back to the the Gemini Game in qualification. Just to to the point of boys have been talking about and Tim. Strikers are member will during the game and halftime Thing where the goal is going to come from from hall in the in this game to get them bucket and ultimately wouldn't and watch the dead and we said well they have to get the goal from the metal hip bar upstairs when upsets the young. Because you can't win in my opinion you can't win this competition been relying solely on Sunday. Who's just going to score goals as a striker strike as all the headlines? But you're going off off the half players and other party a team and other facets of your team that are going to step up and that's what the doctor all about the not although they have got some individuals about being an individual they've got a good platform in which the bill from there they have and history also shows create quite right you. You put all your eggs in having one of these drivers. That's going to school. The bulk of the goes. I mean Francois Without one didn't they so it's not a slot on Jerusalem. I was talking about nine thousand. Nine hundred eight. Stephanie Var actually talk about England and give us a history lesson as well straker. It just wasn't a boy for speaking of the English. Let's move on to group. D split between London and Glasgow England Croatia Czech Republic. John will start with you Croatia you go back to the World Cup semi-final Czech Republic Orange oil back. You just go back to qualify their teams right there then beaten England ready to put negative connotations in his mind. He's already thinking of the loss to creation. And if you want me to carry on being gone about check Republican in Golden State seventy. Yeah that was the one blemish on that qualification record. If you look at playoff win a see now craig will tell you that might be Scotland. I would tell us probably going to be Serbia. And if it is the founder brothers and they're a threat in that a group as well Interesting what do you think about if you're going through Serbia Croatia which is a bulkin rivalry of some not so I think I don't think straightforward for England is as for certainly group in Belgium. Just he's doing because I don't think cratia are quite a team that we're at now Donovan. And definitely you know we're riding the wave the the the the momentum look modules not playing anywhere near as well racket each not plan anywhere near as well at bustle gametime. However there's no doubt the most exciting team and this group if they can get the problematic part of the team correct I e the possession the goal people in the course of the goals scored I also think John hit the nail on the head regarding this group? It's the playoff winner has accused say in this group because when when you look at four third-placed teams going through no beaten his death and it does have a huge impact on this term if it is Serbia then all of a sudden the results of this group become a little bit more complicated. When if it's someone other than Serbian this group I think it's fair to say that plan is not going to advance but everyone needs to remember Robert Pot? Four in two thousand sixteen there were six teams in the pot for those teams got into the knockout round so the way this tournament is set up. Is that the world. Has Many people like to talk about. They do have an opportunity go through. That's what's more intriguing to me than England playing Croatia with all due respect because I expect both those teams to go through. It's the other way. And how the group may manifest itself but I do think the excitement to England. This is all about the English tempering down because internally they are extremely pumped in relishing this opportunity because ultimately they're the defacto home team and there's been fighting and there is well we'll just the news with all they can paint a picture wherever way the one but all is not quite enough thought by the way not rears its head a major championship. And that's a major problem with the Dutch. Yes there you go the history of robberies influence but there you go Perhaps there's is no country that has overcome that quite like Spain or at least ten years ago you could say in Groupie we find the Spanish alongside Poland and Sweden and then the playoff winner. There you see the teams that could fill that final spot. Look I guess when we talk about this Spanish team you gotta talk about the managerial. We talk and frightening and employs. Nobody did it better than the Spanish dude. It for a while. I got the World Cup. Two thousand eighteen when he was sacked on the eve of twenty four hours started. And so you talk about shooting yourself in the foot I know we have Lewis and recombine into the job after the tragedy tragedy tragedy of losing DASA unfolds has to have his former number two Rebecca Marino fired for what he perceived disloyalty not that soul. I think that will be put away. The universe comes around. I think the big problem for Spain has just never going to Spain evolved because the team was on a different planet. What's missing Miss Spanish team? A little bit of everything that Spanish team would pass you to Dave Hubert hotly see the bowl the bowl buck you to try to do anything with them and they don't plan to have good players but they don't have quality of plan and what they need to have sex lately. Contradict myself from the strike. Could roll as somebody upfront is doing a job. Some good news for them as our room and autism slightly better form all bypass able the last three major tournaments. They haven't won a knockout round game. So you go from that older generation and way they went after one three major tournaments to now you get out of the group and you WANNA knock out round game two biggest concern. I've had for the Spanish for the last. I'd say six years is defensively offensively when they do lose possession. They've looked vulnerable. They've given up goals. I remember in sixteen in the blink of an eye two or three passes you by the back four. And you're putting ball all the back of the net. The Spanish have struggled in that but to me. They're unconvinced by themselves. When you ever want to knock out round game after going through that run I still look at it? I know you two are going to disagree me Levin the hottest striker in the world if that continues I get it. I'm not saying the Polish. You're going to win the tournament. But if that continues and us into the tournament he can surprise some people in the whole in as far as the biggest fascination for me from this group Levin Donkey World's finest striker of the women says Yo Ramos the ultimate master of the darker. Still what he did to salary champions the final. What is it this time decapitation surreptitious remove? What's going mind all of those repetitious assist removal of a label removed? Now you have to do it I I work on it in a quick break coming up John. Thank you very much for your contributions to the show. When we returned some final thoughts as we look ahead to next summer's European championships fight? Welcome back just a few minutes left for us to wrap up what has been the draw show for the two thousand and twenty European Championship guys. We've got twenty of the twenty four teams not everybody but Maybe some final thoughts Craig on what well you know oaks my own group Air Force. The Germany imports go but ultimately probably Oh ah get through Italy and Belgium. I think we'll be happy to go is will the Netherlands England. Maybe not quite so much in terms of WHO's in their group and Spain. Ob Particularly I. I think we're going to have a great tournament. Ultimately the shakeup will come down when it gets the Noko I think the group stages will pretty much take kid themselves might be a couple of anomalies but I was against the stages. This is going to become really exciting as negative ads. We were at the beginning of the show that was about the draw in how they set up the draw. It has nothing to do with the tournament. I'm extremely interested to see how the tournament plays out with all those teams and how those all of a sudden now in a group stage of a major tournament other teams are playing away games. And how does that play an impact on that I also think we have to reiterate the last time and it was the first time the European the championships were at twenty. Four teams. Third Place team won the tournament. I keep an eye on that group F. Whoever that third place team may have an easier road and getting through stuff and may have a home game but I think this tournament from the draw is set up better than wasn't I mean for me? I'm looking at the monitors. You Know Roberto. Ah Montana's must be under severe pressure to try and get this golden generation. Finally over the line he's got the experienced management has. How's the players There's no excuse for them not to do it. You'd think dee dee sharp suffer no World Cup and the bank would have money in the bank with the fringe public but it does. It's not so much pressure. The fringe on their team the favorites and they will need to perform. And then you look like Germany who we talked about initial so you'll love. The coach cannot get over another debacle and keep his job. So there's lots of these big court. She's coming in with a huge pressure on the shoulders for different reasons but ultimately we'll be looking at one of these guys wedding they might be one or two storylines along the way but hopefully the one of the big nations that takes us. Maybe the last time in a major tournament we see Cristiano Renaldo playing at a higher level. Because I'd be shocked if he's at the level that he's at in two thousand sixteen in the next World Cup Because does it does and twenty twenty two absolutely Rinaldo says I'm he goes then as we know he's fit. He says he's fit he's fit and I'm in the scored but Mother Nature takes its toll. And here's picking up more engines. Very factor is still going two major tournaments with Portugal. And the fact. He's got over one hundred and sixty caps for his country as testament to a guy who through thick and thin and tons up and good and bad and tries to perform his country and you could Adopt Cup for thirty four years old and he was literally one of the guys that got him into this tournament. Awesome great efforts Layton qualifying. Here's the key dates before we get out of here again. March twenty six to the thirty first will be the playoffs where the sixteen teams that are still alive for. Those four will be decided yes among them. The tournament starts on June twelfth in Rome Group. Stage runs June twelfth through the twenty twenty four before we get to the knockout round Of course the semifinals and finals will be played at London's Wembley Stadium the remote pain in watching Scotland in the playoffs. But I I can suffer failures. What you call? Don't all the time we've got for Ian and John Craig Taylor Sebastian bashing. We're looking forward to twenty better. 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