20 Episode results for "Roberto Clementi"

Bitterness Scale

Baseball Tonight with Buster Olney

42:26 min | 7 months ago

Bitterness Scale

"Baseball tonight, the PODCAST, these the baseball tonight podcast for Wednesday September nine, two, thousand, twenty, producing from his home studio in the foothills of Connecticut Taylor Schwenk on Buster only working for my home studio in New York. Well, today's a big day in Baseball Roberto. Clementi Day. Today, he'll be honored players who were born in Puerto Rico are going to be allowed to wear Clementi's number twenty one that with permission from Major League. Baseball other players will be able to wear a number twenty, one decal Pittsburgh pirates. Of course, Roberto Clementes team All of those players will also be wearing number twenty one on Tuesday in Saint. Louis you gotTa Emelina Puerto Rico wore number twenty one because the cardinals are not playing today in that double header. The twins won the first game. Cardinals won the second Game Nelson Cruz of the twin slamming three homers during the course the double header it was a nineteen pichit bat for Matt leaders give a listen to this. Again. I believe this is the longest and bad I've seen. Him Play, center. With the catch on nine, t sits battle ends Liaoning Dick Bremmer with that call on the twins television network the phillies playing the red sox rookie came through for. Philadelphia. To and again, the pitch from Barnes swinging ally drive to left. Basit one run scored Didi coming around third. He's way to the plate and the throw is time Alec Baldwin has won. A two run single the walk off here on the bottom of the Sabbath the phillies down to their final strike and boom strikes for the polls. The six, five, the final, the Phillies, win it, and walk off I. Got France King Ninety four wip in Arizona Gavin locks had a really big day and you know the trajectory of his season he came into the year lot of Hoopla about him. Then after the summer camp, he was initially left off the dodgers roster. He's now worked his way back and his talent is manifesting. In for a big innings. A high fly ball to right field calhoun going back on it. With a second home rather than. A skyscraper being three run shot against Lopez and they've broken it open in the tenth. Joe Davison Orel Hershiser on the dodgers television network. The dodgers coming back from an early deficit after Walker bueller lasted less than three innings. Brian Cashman the general manager of the Yankees address the players yesterday and he spoke to reporters afterward and he talked about how the fans deserve better baseball his message to the players talk cheap and all that matters is the performance will after that conversation took place this is what happened in the game. The. To to to Davis. And he gives it a ride to teeth left field. I battle this season and he just. I was Dan Schulman on the Blue Jays television networks. So yesterday, the Jays win the Yankees lose incredibly the Jays with a three game lead over the Yankees for second place in the American League East, the Orioles one and the Tigers wants to the Yankees, lead over Baltimore for the number eight playoff spot is now just down to a half game. Tell you gotta be feeling good about that your os right in it? Oh my gosh. I. Watched the mets game last night I was going bananas we got four Games against gangs this weekend looks Stores Oh it is so on and I jacked and the Yankees. Now, just a game Detroit who would have imagined that we'd be in this situation at the start of all, this will be talking about that with David Schoenfield coming up six Sanchez of the Marlins man does he look awesome? Is it'll be a two to pitch coming from sixto and he went around strikeout number one, four, six does Sanchez tonight, hell dial it up triple digits here six pitches into the ballgame it's overpowering a hitter, right? It's going to raise it at the top of the Zona Kuni goes around. So that strikeout number twenty on the year in this is fourth starts. With now, six more strikeouts yeah pretty impressive. He didn't just drag out a hitter. He struck a the Kuni junior one, hundred miles per hour at the top of the zone, and by the end of the night here are six of Sanchez's numbers for the year twenty, five innings in four starts a one point eight Oh era, a twenty five strikeouts to walks twenty five strikeouts in two walks for a pitcher four starts into his career I'M GONNA ask Paul Bikinis about how rare that is Max freed the best and most stable force and the braves tation went on the disabled list with back spasms his viola dropped precipitously in his last start. Before we continue, we need to talk about our friends at marathon oil. Now, more than ever have to look out for each other in count on each other marathon wants you to know that you can count on them for high quality top tier gas marathon gasoline's are formulated. With SDP additives. They keep your vehicle running at peak performance by optimizing fuel economy, removing those deposit buildups in by reducing emissions, and right now, you can get five cents off every gallon. Every day with make it count rewards marathon plus you can earn points for additional savings on fuel airfare hotels and more. This is definitely a deal you can count on it's quick and easy to join just download the free. Make it count APP or go to make count dot com slash radio start saving today. This offers valid only at participating marathon stations remember wherever you need to go be safe. The people at Marathon are behind you all the way before. We continue we need to talk about our friends in marathon oil. Now, more than ever we have to look out for each other in count on each other marathon wants you to know that you can count on them for high quality top tier gas marathon gasoline's are formulated with SDP additives. They keep your vehicle running at peak performance by optimizing fuel economy, removing those ugly deposit buildups in by reducing emissions, and right now you can get five cents off every. Gallon every day with make it count rewards marathon plus you can earn points for additional savings on fuel airfare hotel and more. This is definitely a deal you can count on it's quick and easy to join just download the free. Make it count APP or go to make it count dot com slash radio start saving today. This offers valid only at participating marathon stations remember wherever you need to go be safe. The people at Marathon are behind you all the way. Welcome to the show. Welcome to the show. Welcome to show. Welcome to the show. Welcome to the show. COON to the show. Welcome to the show maybe you're in the show with TV show and. David Schoenfield covers baseball for ESPN and Dave on this the Roberto Clementi Day I feel like that. It's important to remind people that he was a lot more than a great humanitarian and he is know baseball's humanitarian award is named for him. Of course, his life ended when he was making A. Flight to give relief to people who had just been devastated by an earthquake but I almost feel like now as time goes on people sometimes forget just how incredible credible, what kind of incredible player was and what kind of an athlete I don't know about you. But they're just some guys that when you watch the move and running throw, you're like, wow, that guy's an athlete like Jack flair cardinals now Fernanda tease junior clementi was like that for me when I was a kid. Yeah no doubt. He's one of those guys use a little before my time that you wish you could have seen play, right? Yeah. There's a few videos out there not a whole lot because there's not many from that era that we still have an existence. But yeah, obviously what a player three seventeen career batting average in a very difficult era again in the sixties with the big mouth for batting titles. Of course, he finished with three thousand hits on the Diet and like you mentioned yesterday. Without a doubt I. Think you know the greatest defensive right fielder of all time. And then nineteen seventy-one World Series He pa-. He was killed on December thirty first nineteen, seventy to the nineteen seventy one world series was a grand stage, Roberto, Clementi. He had four fourteen had an L. P. S. over twelve hundred. He was firing the ball all over the place in game seven of the world series. The pirates won that game behind Steve Blast. Tudo. One was Clementi who gave the pirates a lead with a home run off Mike Mike give a listen. That is fit well. Commentary. Pirates lead one nothing. Breaking. Point at twelve hip. One short now tying bobby pins all time. World Series Record. Thirteen hits in a seven game world series. Triple a homer yesterday and a home run today like his wing now look at him. tee-off. One hundred eighty pound body whipping around that's when he pulled the left center. Get the been the right yeah. So then the nine hundred seventy world series Brooks Robinson was playing third base for the Baltimore Oriels and it feels like that they're about one hundred and fifty highlights of him making defensive plays from that world series and it's the same thing with Clementi from seventy one like if you just Google Roberto Clementi and throw about three or four throws come up from that world series of one of those actually involved to play that with with Merv Redmond who I got to know and many years later when he was a hitting coach with the San, Diego padres and what happened on that. Play was it was a fly ball was at second base. There's a fly ball toward the right field line and CLEMENTI's racing from right center field over toward the right field line to catch and Moore was really fast and committee catches it, and then does basically a two hundred and seventy degree. WORL- and fires off his back foot from that spot to third base and merv barely beat it and we had about eight years later he said he couldn't believe it was that close he was just amazed by how committee was able to use his body and set himself up that way, and of course, make those incredible throws. It's true here. One thing people say it's too hard to measure defense. A lot of that doesn't show up in this stat. Oh, for guys agreed, our players don't run out of well, they tried to run on. Clemente but look at some of these assist totals buster. To Nineteen Fifty Eight, twenty, seven, nine, hundred, sixty, one, nineteen, you know I mean just you know seventeen and so on. So yeah, they knew he had the best arm ever. They tried to run on him and he still threw them out all the time in. The defensive staff from that era we kind of estimate what they are but Clemente's the charts better than each row Suzuki. I don't even know who else. I would put in that alkaline has married good stats of course as well but clemente defensively. Fifty years ago since he's played and nobody had matches them, he played in two world series I in nineteen sixty, then nineteen seventy-one fourteen world series games. You got a hit in every single world series game he played in six though Sanchez made his four start for the Marlins last night and wow David. He just jumps out at you when you watch him pitch and the numbers so far twenty-five innings to walks twenty five strikeouts, the Marlins have themselves as. Yeah. He was part of that JT mutual trail. I believe, right? You know he was a top prospect battled some injuries here and there while with the phillies that's one reason I think they were willing to part with them. But Yeah, man last night he hit one hundred a couple times he and Jacob degrom only starting pitchers to reach one hundred with their heater this year. But the thing that impresses me to walks in twenty five innings if this kid is gonNA throw strikes with that stuff he absolutely as as potential. So what you read on the National League as now that we got word from the braves yesterday Max freed going on the injured list at the moment the braves two and a half games ahead of the phillies three and a half ahead of the marlins five and a half ahead of the mets, I don't rule out any of those teams. Know, what we know how much Atlanta rotation has struggled outside of freed. So now without him man at rotation is still a mess. What cowl right last night with another. Bad Start is yeras over over eight. You know he's supposed to be a top prospect hasn't delivered the Phillies I. Don't know how they're doing it with that bullpen. They're in it and the MARLINS somehow. They pitch pretty well, if Sanchez is the real deal of the rest of that rotation solid, they have a shot mets live ground to make up I keep expecting him to win six in a row. But as we saw yesterday, they just can't. Rob's not on the hill that rotations amass mass can hit. Haven't hit with runners on base. So I think it's braves, phillies, Marlins I. Think all three of those teams are going to be battling down to that final weekend well in while all the teams in the National League Eastern Nash League central are in perfect at best because of this format for two thousand and twenty two teams in each of those divisions are assured of being in the postseason because sunlight past years, where was the first place teams in each division, and then you just take the best records to round out the wild card berths. The first and second place teams are GonNa be in the playoffs. Do you prefer this system or do you like the other? So he mentioned this to me, this is a possibility if the Yankees and the orioles both end up with a better record than the Astros. The Astros make because they finished second in the West Man. Can you imagine how ticked off Yankee fans will be that happens? I think he almost had to do it because you had to factor in the potential. Unevenness of the divisions in with all the Games being within your division or the corresponding geographic division it's Kinda hard to group the League's together. But yeah, we'RE GONNA, end up with the possibility of a team finishing with a better record and missing the playoffs. You mentioned the Yankees yesterday Brian Cashman was moved to go to Buffalo. He actually had been there watching his team as it was in crisis and hold a team meeting and basically try to assure the players maybe nudged them a little bit. Maybe put a little pressure on them. Maybe to telling them that he supports them fully but then they won out lost another game and incredibly. Their lead over the orioles for the eight spot in the National League is a half game. They have a one game lead over the Tigers only to over the team that's near dear to your heart the mariners. And I I did sportscenter yesterday and they asked me on a scale of one to ten. How much in trouble are the Yankees and I said seven and a half and trending badly because you know and I know the way baseball is it's not like. We're the Yankees. Could suddenly turn on a light necessarily run away from other teams. They have played all of these other teams into this race. You know you know the mariners they have legitimate shot the Tigers have a legitimate shot. You know as we come down the stretch in the enke's control that they have lost control of their own destiny with the way they performed. Remarkable. Watching the game last night they just left runners on base. You Know Look David Call, set it on the Yankees broadcasts. You know they're a five hundred team. This is who they are. This is no fluke. It's no accident. Yes. The injuries bla-bla-bla, but go through that roster and guys have not performed. They are a five hundred team. Do they have more talent than the orioles with the mayor's? Yes. Of course they do but they haven't played up to it. It's wide open. They had big series this weekend with with Baltimore. They still have what seven gained with Toronto and they finished with the Marlins so. Is Not going to be easy. I know our playoff odds still give him eighty three percent chance the orioles only Levin Point Eight and that's based on the talent level. That's guarantee it's wide open well, and you're right. That's based on track record for guys like Gary Sanchez like Labor. Torres Gleyber Torres hasn't had any impact this year he's not playing that well, he's not playing well, defensively is now playing offensively and Gary. Sanchez, I was texting with much evaluators yesterday about him like they're confused right the they don't understand. They couldn't imagine a couple of years ago. You'd have a situation that he would look this bad at the plate. One hundred and fourteen plate appearances and think about these numbers He has a total of five singles, one double and seven home runs in one hundred and fourteen plate appearances Pete that hundred fourteen plate appearances, five singles, one double seven home runs and forty eight strikeouts, and we saw this in the postseason last year and even the postseason the year before that where once he gets into a funk of any kind, it's like the pitcher can stand out there and yell to him. Hey. I'm going to throw a slider Lohan away, and for whatever reason, he's just not able to make an adjustment. This is the problem I have with the modern approach to hit it and Gary Sanchez perfectly sums this up luck is rookie eerie hit two, ninety, nine as a sophomore to seventy eight with thirty three home runs. He was not just a slugger he was a really good hitter since then one, eighty, six to thirty, two, one, twenty, five, it's home runner nothing isn't hit enough home runs to make up for all the nothing especially this year either he needs a total revamp of his entire game 'cause he has talent we've seen it he shouldn't be this bad I'm sure some of its mental, but it's also just the modern approach to. inning willing to live with the strikeouts to try to hit a home run and I think some players are negative negatively impact to buy this style of play and Sanchez is is case number one boy so much swing and miss, and again in you know in the toughest games of the year when you need your best players to step up, he has struggled in the postseason You know we saw that in the first couple years cody bellinger with the dodgers, and then as time has gone on, it seems like he's beginning to make adjustments. But that's you know my question about Gary Sanchez as we go forward and it's interesting because. I really feel like that while we've talked about how this winter's free agent market is going to be really bad for a lot of players because of the volume of free agents, all the non tenders it's like and I'm going to write about this some in this Sunday's column. It's like if you look off on the horizon like all the. A weather formation that's gathering perfectly for jt Real Muto beside. He is going to be the most prominent free agent this fall, and he's already got the Philadelphia phillies invested in them. They absolutely love them. They love him as a player. They love him as a as a teammate as a catcher. He's got bryce Harper in a basically advocating for him to be recite. so He's already got one big market team. Coming after them, then you have the New, York mets with new ownership, Steve Khan, richest owner in baseball he can outbid anybody for any player. He wants the mets need a catch your long-term. So that's to potential teams and I just the last couple of days in watching. Gary Sanchez struggle it occurred to me like you know what I wonder if the Yankees. Watch and see how Gary Sanchez struggled defensively last year to the point that they made a lot of adjustments with his defense and how he sets up. If they might say, we don't know about Gary, Sanchez, we don't have confidence necessarily in on the other hand jt. Real. Muto that guy's athleticism is so phenomenal while you know be thirty years old for catcher might sound older. He just looks like somebody who could play and be successful players for years to come. So it does feel like you have at least two teams maybe more than that jumping in on the bidding on him no I agree and this May. Be a little unfair you know and certainly if George Steinbrenner was still rattling the team, there's no doubt. He would make Sanchez the scapegoat for this season right I'm not gonna say that's going to happen with the current ownership. Eh, the current front office, but it does feel like a change of scenery might be needed for everyone involved here. You know like you said, he's never going to be a gold glove candidate behind the plate. anyways. Real Muto is just going to be true to a player more reliable. You know the kind of guy he want handling the pitching staff you know his Sanchez GonNa take the blame. For some of the struggles of the pitching staff it's hard to kind of get those reports this year. But that certainly has been the case in the past and I'm with you. If the Yankees look I know they got all that money and Garrett call they're gonNA have to maybe coney up for Aaron Judge Down the road but jt rail who is absolutely perfect fit for them yeah and I wonder you know big picture is the Yankees look at the players they want to invest in if Aaron judge is injuries begin to begin to factor in where they feel like you know what don't know. If we want to you know throw it on two hundred million dollars is something in that range, for Aaron, as much as they love his at bats and they love power and his star power is that something somebody who want to invest in or would you rather spinoff and you know find pitcher to invest in or someone like rail? Muto it's GonNa be really interesting off season for the Yankees especially, if they don't make the postseason and there's a a large internal assessment based on just the sixty game season before you go give me a handicap, the American league central you think's GonNa win that three team race. I guess we always default to pitchy right so I'll go with. Cleveland that rotation just so stellar. The twins I think they're gonNA. Finish third they just haven't been bashing the ball like they did last year other than Nelson Cruz I think to a man everybody's having a worse were season the white sox they're right at their them in Cleveland plus fifty to render differential. But when in doubt the fall to starting pitching in that's Cleveland, totally agree with you all right sir, I appreciate it. Very good. This is one of the moments remembered from a Berta commence career. This is right after the pirates won the nineteen seventy, one world series Clementi was named the MVP and legendary broadcaster Bob Prince spoke with him and you'll hear Clementi as they talk, ask his parents for his blessing in Spanish give a lesson. Life? People are. I. I. Told my mother is probably. ME I. saw. Before, we move on we need to talk about our friends at draft kinks. Now is the time to celebrate football is back and draft kings. The leader in one day fantasy sports is putting you in the center of this weekend's action with over eight million dollars per grabs across all of their contests to kick off the season draftkings giving new users a free shot at a one million dollar top prize with your first deposit when you use code bb t n during sign up that's bvt an for baseball tonight get in. On the action now draft your lineup now and feel the sweat like never before every run passing catch means more with the draftkings lineup. It's simple just pick your lineup standard the salary cap and see how your team stacks up against the competition. Nothing adds to the sweater watching the game quite like having a shot at a million dollar. Top Rise draftkings is paid out billions of dollars to winner since two, thousand, twelve. So they know a thing or two about cold hard cash download the draftkings APP now and use code bb. For a limited time new users and get a free shot at the one million dollar top prize and compete for over eight million dollars in prizes. Cross all contests don't miss this extra special week one bonus enter code BB, and to get a free shot at the one million dollars top prize with your first deposit that's Code T. Only, a draft kings make it rain minimum five dollar deposit required eligibility restrictions apply see draftkings dot com for details. Before we move on, we need to talk about our friends at draft kings now is the time to celebrate football is finally back draft kings. The leader in one day fantasy sports has millions of reasons why you should be excited to kick off the football season draft kings is giving new users a free shot at a one million dollar top prize with a total of three million dollars up for grabs for this Thursday football contest getting in on Thursdays. Nights single-game showdown is easy. All you have to do is download draftkings using Promo code bb. BB T N. for baseball tonight drafts six players from the season opener standard the salary cap and CIA team stacks up against the competition. So head to the APP. Now, to start making it rain plus new users who sign up today at draft kings using code bt, an will receive a free shot at a one million dollar top prize with your first. Deposit nothing adds to the sweat of watching the game like having a shot at a million dollar payday download the drafting zap now and use code bb T. N. for a limited time new users can get a free shot at the one million dollar top prize and three million dollars in total prizes. Joan Mrs Extra Special Week one bonus enter code BB. To get a free shot at the one million dollar top prize with your first deposit. That's code bt N. only draft kings make it rain minimum five dollar deposit required eligibility restrictions apply see draftkings dot com for details. Jumping into the numbers. Matthew evaluating millions of leases data in. I runarounds Cincinnati, by two hundred points by you. On This is Hembo. Knows in Hembo is Paul Katie's researcher ESPN is also a haunt you on the show get up. He tells us he's the head Honcho and you've got to be in studio today. Hammo, tell us that story. Today was a big deal over here. So since I don't know what it was like the second week of March like everyone else I have been working from home working remotely and look when you sign up to work at ESPN. It is your dream the apart of a live studio experience as I've had the opportunity to do for so long it is not your dream. To Be Texting, e-mailing famous people from your mother in law's couch, and that's what I had been doing before. So going back in the studio today being a part of it feels dynamic again obviously, it's it's a little subdued in different here everyone's keeping their distance and wearing the masks and all that. But it felt like a little slice a normal and I think all. Of US at a time like now can really appreciate that well, between signing autographs for all this people who've been missing you you did answer one of my email this morning about the performance of Sixto Sanchez of the Marlins in his first four starts in the big leagues remarkable stuff twenty, five innings just five runs allowed a one point eight Oh, you're a twenty five. strikeouts in two walks, and of course, I saw that I'm like man that never happens and I emailed you about that. What did you find out? Well, that happens more often than we thought a handful of times in the last handful of years including Masahiro Tanaka, Brendan McKay, and Elias Back, and said, you know it's really not all that rare. But Buster, it's not really the the. Numbers that jump out to me as it relates to six though Sanchez, it's the stuff I mean, you watch this stuff when this guy is totally electric I mean like built for the touching Ninjas twitter feed and as a as a phillies fan. Obviously, he was a mega prospect for us. He seems to have become the crown jewel of that organization in slowly but surely the. Moments a really building something that fastball changeup Nick that he has is completely vile, and if he can develop a a legitimate third pitch sits compliment often that change up and play plus I. Think we're looking at a front end type star the question I have as it relates the Sanchez's future is how durable not the biggest guy in the world, but it stuff is. Electric I've heard people use the the name, six inches and Pedro Martinez in the same breath. So I was just talking to David Schoenfield field about how all the stars and moons are all lining for JT Real Muto in free agency. The course the phillies want to retain him the mets have new ownership, and then just watching Gary Sanchez in recent days and how much. He's struggling wondering you what another big market team, the Yankees who knows maybe they get involved in that into this point. That's all speculation on a scale of one to ten Philadelphia Phillies. Fan Bitterness. How bitter would you be? It'd be Sixto Sanchez dominating for the MARLINS. The big piece and jt winds up signing with some other teams besides the Phillies Oh, twenty, five something like that. That's it would irk me to no end as well. It should because phillies fans for a year have been talked told radio and sank. Let's lock this guy up. We have the best catcher in baseball while. Possibly let them go. Of course if if we can retain them, it's has the money. We know they have more money than practically any team in baseball and look I've never been one who has this sort of sellers remorse after one of your prospects becomes a study elsewhere. So long as you got what you signed up for it and affiliates have gotten what they signed up for but if they sort of any sort of financial pressures or allow themselves to get up or even don't make a real pushier for the end of the season when they have rights to him and no one else does. Most of you will be enraged speaking of the Yankees they've been struggling. What do you make of that? Well. There are two areas in particular that stand out to me about their last twenty games in which they're five and fifteen buster number. One is that there lineup lacks LANC lanky eight nine hitters or batting one, fifty five with a league low OPN during that stretch for context eight, nine hitters in the National League at a to ten last year that was was before the d. h. rule is wanted to affect they have automatic outs the bottom of their line of. Their pitchers can't swing the game buster to the back end in innings five and six during those twenty games. So that's forty innings total. The Yankees have allow twenty four extra-base eleven of which are home runs and fifty one runs. We know the back of the bullpen is is terrific even despite some of the injuries that they've suffered but if you can't swing the game in that direction and you're not getting any light from your starters. Good do either of them do that's a major problem area for this team right now, it's really exposing this club in a way that's causing them games, and these are now really meaningful games. Last thing that I'll say plus they built a team during much for their ballpark to deal the homer Owen nine that she when they when they haven't homered, they won a game yet and which they have not hit a home run. That's a real concern when you can't manufacture runs and you don't have the kind of lengthen your lineup that you anticipated one of the teams ahead of them in the American league standings, the Tampa Bay rays who have this incredibly versatile roster. What he got there again. So they're twenty, two, eight since August eight it makes them the best team in baseball over the last calendar month or two things they've done really well over that span. The first is extinguished fires in the bullpen they're only seven forty, six inherited runners have scored against the raise during that time that is by far the best rate in baseball, and secondly there lineup chases opposing stars, Tampa, eight forty, five ps against starting pitchers during that time. That's the fourth best baseball further he's please forty three games this season forty, three games these forty, two unique lineup. There are plug and play. They have no unselfish on that team the fact that they've. Given catch US pulled out a different lineup in all one one day this season only one duplicate lineup is is a remarkable. It really speaks to the versatility they've built down there. And lastly, today Roberto Clemente will be honored I'll all around baseball we've heard from him a lot and heard about them a lot today in the podcast. Would he got on Roberto Clementi? Well Clinton is to Latin America Jackie Robinson into the black community as as as best I can tell as a player buster his throwing arm is what most stood out to me the all time record for rightfielder instantaneously with thinking garbage can at the third base as practice targets for throwing out baserunners as a humanitarian. Of course, he staged these baseball clinics for low income children in Puerto Rico, and visited patients in Pittsburgh's Children's hospital during the season, and of course, he ultimately died doing that humanitarian. Work, committee was inducted into the hall of fame by special election, of course, in Nineteen, seventy three and is the only player enshrined posthumously before he would have turned forty years old. All right Hembo. Good to talk with. You welcome back to studio. Now go home and don't come back for another week. That's right. That's what they're telling me over here later boys. Leisure tweets. Already Buster bleacher tweets for Wednesday I up Andrew desalvo at salve ocean in for teams that fall short of expectations. For example, the Yankees I hope he includes in parentheses is it possible? Their manager GM could lose their jobs based on the team's poor performance or will owners give them a pass due to this season's circumstances and we've talked a lot about high. In Bloom but what about elsewhere around the League Yeah Anaheim Bloom save his job is safe I. think more what I was mentioning with him is it feels like that. You know in a year when there were a lot of expectations for the, red sox at could SORTA go about his work and no one noticed but the red sox have struggled so much. that. I. Feel like that. You know what? Maybe the clock starts to tick this year I can't imagine did either Brian Cashman or Aaron Boone would be in trouble You know they're very highly regarded within the Yankees Organization. You know one name that's brought up a lot in baseball circles is at a billy apple, the general manager of the Angels He's in. The last year of his deal the angels you know had hoped even in the sixty game season to perform well but again, they've lacked starting pitching Shohei Ohtani had the injury that he had. You know what we'll see what happens with belly but I know folks with other teams are wondering about whether or not he's going to keep his job moving forward. Next up, we have buffets the back guy. slayer. At will wheels. PhD. That's a good little run there he writes in favorite Lou Brock story white met him at a function but didn't know who he was because her only frame of baseball reference was the two thousand fourteen Indians she asked Brock I hear that used to steal bases but were you as good as Michael Born to which he replied all most what a great story and it absolutely falls right in line with the stories I've heard about Lou Brock and how nice he was as a person that he he would deferred to that excited fan fired up about Michael Born. Very. Cool. Last one for today. Andy Peterson. At m. a Peterson writes in hello buster Taylor. The L. Central has taken the goat Rodeo title from the NFL West Three teams below five hundred, the cardinals outbreak, and yet they're listed in the playoff to spot cubs with the lowest win percentage of all division leaders is that one the Goat Rodeo division for you at the moment buster I could be I would say this the national. League East is also in that category especially, as we get news about Max, reads injury like the one stable part of the braves rotation. Now he's out to and you know the the phillies have been playing a lot better. I don't think we could completely rule out the mets. The marlins was sixto throwing so well that that's going to be an interesting divisions. Well, yeah. But the national league central is a great candidate for that. A lot of fun coming down the stretch here. Thanks for writing and everyone has bleacher tweet on twitter and please subscribe to rate and review this podcast wherever you listen to podcasts. That's it for today. My thanks to Dave to Hembo and Taylor thanks for listening everybody stay safe and remember hate inequality based on race is something we need to fight against every day, and in that vein, listen to the last interview that Roberto Clementi did this is from October of Nineteen seventy-two, the broadcaster named Sam Nobre this is Roberto Clementi. People like Joe Namath and Muhammad. Ali. For example, who could easily be categorized with you Roberto in the greatness as an athlete have no inhibitions at all about allowing the public to come into their private like maybe they do secretly but certainly, they don't disguise it. How do you feel about athletes like name finale for example, who whose exploits The whole world knows about. Say That It's a little different model with Ali because I have admire this man because I don't Mi- I might not go with the idea that he has. I think everybody think different. I Don I. Don't know what all the idea he has as a as a professional athlete. I admire him a lot because. he's a fillion person. most of the. Going public on the fact that he put in public. He doing hisself a promotion for his fight with his job. And I admire him for that name as A. Nation make him I on the. Is they tried to they making my playboy and over boy which. This is something that had to grow in the in the personal also. And I don't say one thing the other because they do their job does their business but to me I can be like that I I gotta rest. I had to rest on much as I can. And I think that. The little different story because. I've been the liability minority group I Puerto Rico, I'm black. And I have between the wall. So. Anything I. DO I I re recruited them because I'm black. I'm sick. I would reflect on me because I am Puerto Rican. But with this might tell you that to me. I always respect everybody on socks to God when I grew up. I was raised I was I was raised. By my father and then there were told me to hate anyone or they never told me to this leg will because the racial we never talk about that the mother of parks I I started listening to this talk when I can state. So to me. I would say that. This. Is something that I love everybody on the. And I have to be very good for what I do because ym so I. Give you a somber I was in New York one time by furnace on furniture under the people my was was going to have a baby. And we'll we used to around on the people they meet us out the door and they said they, what do you want? To see showroom I, see some furnish you. On this world, let's wait for a little bit and we want to send somebody to. Lord to see what we have. So. They said that they have one floor furniture. And so they to. To Rio Rio place where I they they. They shot the funding wasn't the showroom wasn't the furnished now they were showing up upstairs. And I said, we will see these phony two downstairs that wasn't the showroom and they said, well, you have enough money to buy that. I say how it you know that I don't have enough money a world, but that's very offensive. I said I would like to see it because I have the right to see as a human being supported by for you. So finally, they show it to us. And I remember I use hustle money a we went to Europe I me my my my wallet. I have five thousand dollars in my wallet. We said to do the whole amount money instead using this one combined. So they want to know who I was married or the top and. They find who I was. So they said, we seven stores seven, seven, seven floors four finish we wanNA short to you and. You know you will with was like a more for Rican. Railway. Just got mad I said look. Your Business to sell to anybody. I don't care if I'm Marie Cowan US or whatever you wanNA call me but. You see this was really give me mad because I have Puerto Rican you different from the other people. I have the same money that you are asking for but I have a different treatment with right now giving my wife different treatment I myself and my friend Puerto Rican I don't WanNa do anything about it. I don't want to buy your financials I walk out. Thanks for listening to the baseball tonight podcast. If you're playing fantasy baseball toe, forget to listen to the fantasy focus podcast checkout all podcasts at ESPN DOT com slash podcast. Center. Baseball tonight, the PODCAST.

Baseball Sixto Sanchez Yankees Philadelphia Phillies Roberto Clementi Marlins mets braves Brian Cashman dodgers Baltimore Gary Sanchez David Schoenfield Roberto Clemente Philadelphia cardinals National League Tigers Pittsburgh
The Amazing Roberto Clemente

Stuff You Should Know

51:02 min | 5 months ago

The Amazing Roberto Clemente

"Hey friends did you know that raoult's homemade makes all their pasta sauce with naturally sweet tomatoes combined with only the freshest ingredients. Well it's delicious. Delicious is always worth it raoult's homemade make everyday delicious. Pay friends when you need your bank. Capital one is right in the palm of your hand. You can check your balance deposit checks pay bills and transfer money from your phone with a top rated app and when you're done banking put it back in your pocket. Banking experience built around you and your life. This is banking reimagined get started online anytime. What's in your wallet capital one in a member. Fdic welcome to step. You should know a production of iheartradio's how stuff works. Hey welcome to the podcast. I'm josh clark. There's charles w chuck bryant over there jerry to kind mentioned jerry and this is stuff today you should go. I'm surprised you Pick this topic why. I don't recognize you as a baseball guy. Oh man probably the. The first thing. I was ever truly into was baseball cards. Like getting the newest edition of the beckett's price guide was like one of my like the highlights of my month when whenever really yeah for a few years of a super in baseball cards was funny is like i would still. I'd watch baseball here there but it was baseball card in particular i really cared about but yes. I didn't really watch baseball. No not really interesting. But i really love baseball cards. Like i wasn't like oh. I hate baseball but baseball cards. It wasn't like complicating complex like that. It was just. I did watch i. I baseball cards more than i liked baseball itself. That's all i got for you roberto clemente fan. Well i mean he was He was playing his final years. When i was being born so i was not a fan but i i grew up Obviously a braves fan. But the in the mid nineteen seventies. When i first started being a baseball fan the pittsburgh pirates Had a couple of really good teams and he was He was not long gone before those years. So is aura was still sort of ever present when i first started watching baseball in the pirates when they had those great awful stove top flat cap. Oh i love those things but yeah their own just as an article of fashion their horrid but they were so unique and different to you know. Yeah i mean they were they. They rank among the worst Uniforms but All right very seventy s. So yeah they are super seventies. I think is why i love them. That at seven. I think there are a throwback to the old days so that was the original version but yeah i don't think they like invented those caps. I think like some of the early baseball caps might have been filed that that I think the astros had the best seventies uniform of all though they they rank is one of the worst to. Oh you crazy. You have terrible tastes sundays. I'm just talking about i if you look up articles like worst baseball uniforms ever. Those are the ones that are listed. Okay well then you're not crazy whoever's writing those articles is crazy. Assume you're talking about the orange. A shooting star and stripes. Yeah with like red and blue. It's very pretty okay. So anyway we're not talking about fashion or uniforms or anything like that. Although this is not at all surprising that we even started on this. We're talking about one particular player. Who wore that funny looking pirates. Hat roberto clemente. Who was actually that had so well. Then what are we doing came along. That came along after him. What's the point of even doing this episode. Then if he never had. I'm just. I'm just trying to get keep pittsburgh people from emailing. I appreciate that chuck. I appreciate it So we're we're talking about a pittsburgh. Pirate roberto clemente. And i knew like i knew of him. I was aware of him. I know that he's one of the all time greats. I hadn't seen many plays of his but Like you can't you can't be into baseball and not know about roberto clemente. But i definitely didn't know nearly as much as i do now Thanks to this Help from ruse who apparently was raised a pittsburgh pirates fan so he had plenty of good essay about roberto clemente. Think maybe we should take off a few of these career stats just to give you an idea of who. We're talking about here Lifetime batting average of three seventeen which If you if you don't know anything about baseball and you think a success rate of thirty percent is terrible. It is in almost everything else in life but in baseball. That means you're hall of famer. That's how hard it is to hit a baseball right. I was gonna say goes to show how difficult hitting baseballs in the major leagues are. You know yeah you hit three out of ten in your great I think if said that before on the show but he got twelve gloves in the right field led the league in batting the national league. That is four different times to world series championships Mvp nineteen sixty six in bp the world series and seventy one rebutted four fourteen which is just crazy. Good think sixteen time all star just Really just an amazing career In early instant fame career. Yeah and he was really well known for his arm like he would throw people out at home from right field from the outfield. He could throw without a bounce. He could throw all the way in and beat a runner to third or two home which is just amazing. It was one of the things i really got. People excited about him in watching him play. But like if you look at just as stats especially taken individually like he was a great player in one of the all time greats but statistically speaking it doesn't necessarily show up like there's plenty of people who have better stats but one of the things that may roberto clementi such an amazing baseball player as he was one of the true were called complete players or a five tool player where he could run. He could throw he could bat. He could field and like i keep i keep forgetting what the fifth witness but he could still cracker jackson the stand like nobody's business as well you got an actual baseball guy. The other end of the call here. You know who me. Oh okay well. Mr baseball guy is not selling cracker. Jack's what's the fifth tool use at your disposal. It's a hit for power and hit for average so there's two hittings that's the well. Whoever knows that nobody knows that. You can't just use the same thing twice in call at five tools. Well now you can because a lot of players can have a big boom stick but they like to thirty but if you can hit for average hit for power it's a big big deal and if you can make the most exciting play in baseball to me which is a right field to third base assist. Then i mean there's nothing more thrilling to me. It's really a nice row c. For sure it definitely wasn't even home plate for some reason probably because further one of the things that i think people loved about roberto clemente and i think that made him such a true baseball player in a lot of people's is at least in mind but he was very well known for going. After pitches that other people would have taken as a ball. Clear balls well high and outside high inside low in whatever and he would go after him and he would hit them a lot of time which is one reason why is batting. Average was so high because he would go. After those pitches that other people Would just let go by. And then in hitting them he would send them into places where you wouldn't expect Him being a right handed batter to hit so he could get to base pretty pretty frequently to. He also was a fast runner but he ran like he was out of his mind completely. Yeah it's it's pretty fun to see him Run he would hit pitch outs. Which if you Like i said if you don't know baseball pitch out is win. there's somebody on first base and the catcher signals to the pitcher right Before they throw the the the gown i is going to steal second so they throw it completely out of the strike zone. Catcher can stand up and catch it to make a throw a second and it's called the pitch out. It's not not even a real pitch and he would swing and hit pitch outs. Which is that's awesome. No one does that. it's unheard of. It's crazy that is crazy so suffice to say that roberto clementes one of the great baseball players of all time because he had it all videos also it turns out really great human being a lot of ways to he was an activist for civil rights during the civil rights era and he was also humanitarian as we'll see like he really cared about other people and especially the plight of people who were less fortunate than him because he came from less fortunate circumstances to begin with any never forgot it like he was genuinely one of those guys who never let fame get his head in the ways that he led his fame get to his head was in say animosity toward the sporting press. Or or saying like. You guys aren't giving me enough credit for being what a great player that was separate. That was different when it came to people outside of baseball everyday people he was. He was friends with those people throughout his whole career in life. Yes and that is why major league baseball has honored him with the roberto clemente award every year. Which is given to the player that they feel best represents the humanitarian and a humanitarian and philanthropic side of the game Or outside the game. Rather so right. Quite quite an honor to have an award named after you so i think we should take a break and then maybe go back to the beginning Where in when he was born right after this. Hey friends. chances are you've heard of salesforce but if you're like a lot of people you don't know exactly what they do. Well here's the simple version. Salesforce brings companies and customers together. And we're not talking physically together. Of course they bring you together digitally. Which if you haven't watched the news lately is pretty important these days. That's absolutely true. So how does this work well with salesforce different employees across your different departments like sales marketing customer service. It they all have one single shared three hundred and sixty degree view of each one of your customers yet. And that means a couple of things Firstly whenever your customers talk with someone from sales marketing customer service. It they feel like they're talking to one united company which is a big deal. It's not a series of disconnected departments. Yeah and then secondly it also means that your employees and sales marketing customer service in. It have everything they need to make your customers. Happy no matter where they happen to be working to learn more visit. Salesforce dot com slash. Learn more you know friends. Businesses have had to be flexible this year from working remotely to pivoting their business models for long term survival and growth. Yeah that's true and if you're in charge of hiring for your business pivots like these. They've made your job even more challenging. Especially if you have to hire for brand new roles but thankfully there's a place you can always count on to help you hire faster and easier. Chuck that is ziprecruiter. That's right ziprecruiter's powerful technology finds people with the right skills and experience for your job in actively invites them to apply. It's no wonder four out of five. Employers who post on ziprecruiter get equality candidate within the first day alone. Yup and you can see for yourself right. Now you can try ziprecruiter for free at recruits dot com slash stuff that's ziprecruiter dot com slash s. t. f. f. Ziprecruiter the smartest way to hire all righty so clement. A was born in puerto rico. He's born in a little town. Called carolina or catalina. And it was sugarcane territory sugarcane plantations in his dad. He's actually born roberto clemente walker. His mother's maiden name was walker and His father's name was clement day so he used both until he got into baseball and he was born in the middle of the great depression The youngest of seven kids very tough way to be born into life. It was but i mean like if you're you know if you come from farming family and makes sense to have a lot of kids yeah sure and plus you have a lot of people to play with as you're growing up to. That is very true. So he his father was actually a foreman on. A sugar cane plantation And his mom was a huge influence in his life. I get the impression slightly more of an influence than his father was even but one of the things that She had hoped for her son was that he would become. He would study engineering. I'm not sure why but she wanted to become an engineer. And he said. I really like playing baseball. Like to the point where he and his brothers and his friends would make baseball's out of whatever was handy like. They would put stones in a sock. They would watt up paper tape whatever they could get their hands on and use whatever they could for a bat and they would play baseball and then as they got a little older inserted to start playing in school. They had actual equipment to play with and they would just play constantly. I i read. He had ten home runs once in a game. That started at eleven. Am in ended after six because they just kept playing and playing and playing like. That's all he wanted to do was play baseball and one of the reasons why is because he was really really good at it from a very young age yet. I think the I have a theory about caribbean players that a developed so well because so many of them don't have the right to growing up and especially back then because if you're out there with a broomstick in a bottle cap imagine what that does for your hand eye coordination to when you have like a real barrel of a baseball bat and a baseball like. It's no wonder that he could hit anything. If you're growing up hitting bottle caps. And this wasn't just him so many dominican and puerto rican and cuban Now just all over the place In the caribbean players are coming up and they I think they make do with less as children. Yeah and that really really hone their skills in ways that There's a baseball problem in america period. Like far far fewer kids are growing up playing baseball now. And there's far fewer american baseball players now as a result So one other reason chuck is super into baseball was because the whole island of puerto rico is into baseball at the time like it had been exported a couple of decades before he was born from cuba to puerto rico and then also by the time he was playing the puerto rican Baseball leagues head really developed into something substantial and they played their season in the winter. So you were an american ballplayer You could play in your offseason down in. The caribbean is specifically in puerto. Rico among other places but puerto rico is a really attractive place to play because they were so into it. There are so many teams and so many good players already down there but one of the still is. Yeah but one of the ways that it developed was from Especially negro league players making their way down there in the off season to play I believe roberto clemente actually played a season with Willie mays himself. And willie may suggest led the The new york giants to the to win the world series and a couple of months later. He was down in puerto rico playing during the winter the winter league. Because that's just what you did when you really wanted play baseball. You go down to the caribbean in the wintertime. It's something that still happens in. It's mainly what you see. Now is players younger. Players play winter ball in puerto rico to Just their skills and to get better It's not something you see. A lot of veterans doing That's why it's pretty remarkable. And i think shows the love of his country and the game. Yeah that clemente played winter ball like every year through his career. Yeah one of the reasons. I saw that he did that was because he knew that. Most of the people who lived in puerto rico wouldn't be able to afford to go up to the states to watch him play and he wanted to for them to be able to see him play so he played every year another thing. It was like you were saying that some of the younger players hone their skills Down there he kept his skills honed by playing winter ball like he kept his swing loose. And he he. He didn't fall out of shape ever because he played baseball. Basically year round for eighteen. Twenty years yes so many hits fourteen. He's recruited to play Softball which is a little weird but it was a competitive softball team Then eventually an amateur baseball team and was making. I think like forty bucks a week at seventeen Playing amateur baseball in puerto rico and this was This was a time where you didn't have baseball. Scouts combing the caribbean for the next new young talent it was. It was very new idea. Yeah to go to the carribean define players and not a lot of teams. I mean most teams were doing it a little bit. But they didn't have the robust scouting programs down there like they do now right and they sent The dodgers the brooklyn dodgers who very famously broke the color barrier with jackie robinson and forty seven sent scout a name companions who went down to puerto rico saw a nineteen year old roberto clemente in one thousand nine hundred eighty four and said this guy is a five tool dynamo and we need. We need to get him up here as fast as we can. It wasn't i mean that was actually kind of Insightful of him because it wasn't readily obvious especially very early in his career When he was playing with the Where they called the kangaroo harris the crabbers That he was just going to be one of the all time greats. He swung lots of pitches that other people wouldn't have swung at he ran like he was crazy He was still finding his his skills but to to be able to see how great he was going to be At that young stage. I mean that's a that's a credit to that too was his name. Campinas is Eye for talent. Yeah yeah he went on to be a lifelong baseball executive. I think retired In shame for some like Racial statements he made but longtime baseball guy But the dodgers got clemente and there was a thing those rule back then from nineteen forty seven and nineteen. Sixty five that They got rid of In sixty five for good reason there was a little bit weird. If you're a baseball fan today because it's so different now but the rule was that if you were a player that was signed for more than four thousand dollars signing bonus then you had to be on a major league baseball roster for two full seasons And if you weren't then you had become part of the rookie draft and clemente was signed for. I think ten thousand dollars. And i'm not sure why they signed him for that much. Maybe he wouldn't have gone for less but it was not a great move because this meant that the dodgers had either take him to the major leagues for two full seasons which was not a good call because most players in baseball start out in the minor leagues fact. All do no one makes that jump straight to the major leagues even. If it's just like a cursory half season so that's really rare but they They kept them in the minor leagues and their plan was to hide him and literally it would he would go like two months between starts because they didn't want they wanted to get those two seasons out of the way because after those two years you could send someone to the minor leagues but it didn't work People saw him play and even though he didn't get to play much in the pittsburgh pirates really homed in on him right away. So yeah the pittsburgh. Pirates were Lead i think they're. Gm was branch rickey. Who is the guy who had scouted. Jackie robinson got him onto the dodgers now. He worked for the pirates so he ended up getting his hands on roberto clemente and brought him to the pirates. It's so apparently when They found out or when clemente found out that he had been drafted by the pirates. He's down in puerto rico and he said later on that he had. He didn't really know where pittsburgh was. He had been excited to play for new york. Because there's a big puerto rican community in new york and all of a sudden he sent off to pittsburgh doesn't know where it is and doesn't really know anybody so this is kind of as his entree into America but it actually was even rougher than that. Because i he started out I guess i'm pittsburgh's Minor league team or in. That's what it was. It was in spring. Training down in fort myers beach florida And he came face to face with the the stark reality of of basically jim. Crow south in the fifties First thing when he got to america and he he was one of the reasons. I said earlier the civil rights activists because he did not take very kindly to that and bristled in in railed against it from the outset. Yeah he didn't he didn't have any He doesn't have any frame of reference for this like he came from puerto. Rico were this wasn't a thing. He was of african descent so to americans he was a black man to him. He was puerto rican. He was caught between two worlds and didn't understand why he had to stay in a different hotel or eating a different restaurant than his white Teammates and so this really upset them and and what upset him even as much was how his other black teammates on the team understood it in just basically had to take it because they were afraid. If they caused a ruckus that it would be sent back down to the minors and he was just like you shouldn't be deferential. Like what's going on in this country. And he he would speak to the sporting press about this stuff in the sporting press either would just ignore his comments about that or actually yes they would ignore his comments about that and they would just talk about whatever he said about the game but then to kind of heap This sense that he was an outsider and outside outsider. There wasn't respected because he was looked down upon because of his race and his his Origin They would quote him phonetically in the press so when he said you know I think there was a headline. That famously said like i get a hit. I feel good but they spell it out like i get heat h. e. t. is how they spelled hit. I feel good. That was a headline in the pittsburgh news papers after a really big game and he found that extremely demeaning And actually really kind of framed. The way that he felt about america Yeah framed how he felt about america. And why don't forget like puerto. Rico was you know by this time it was an american territory have been for quite a while. So people in puerto rico had long considered themselves american people in america. Increasing sitter puerto ricans. They consider them and they. The roberto clemente was treated just like any other person from puerto rico which was not very well back. Then yes so. His reputation started to develop as a loner. It's very moody player The pirates were really bad team. I don't think we mentioned that At the time just terrible like one of the worst teams baseball. He didn't catch on in his first few years. They're either Think in his first five seasons the only hit over three hundred one time and a lot of this was due to injury. He had a car accident that hurt his back. So his back was all jacked up for a while He had other you know injuries along the way and he would. He wasn't shy about talking about it. He would complain to the manager complain to the press about his injuries. And this baseball still kind of this way or most sports are actually as you kinda. Don't take that stuff public. You don't wanna be seen as someone who Either fakes injury because they don't wanna play or who complains about it too much right so he. He didn't have the best reputation early on because a lot of this stuff. Yeah i know he was thought to be complainer. A hypochondriac moody Abrasive egotistical. And that was something. that like. That's indisputable as egotistical part. Because he was. He knew that he was playing better than he was getting credit for it and it ticked him off because he knew the reason he wasn't getting credit for was because he didn't act the way that the white sporting press expected him to act and they didn't like him for so they didn't really give them any any credit. They actually withheld credit. That was definitely do him for the way he was playing. But like you said. I mean it took a few years for him to start to catch on but even after he did which i began in the nineteen. Sixty world series When the pirates went from. I don't know if they went from worst to first but it was pretty close to something like that He was he was passed over as the world's series mvp I think like a a lefty relief. Pitcher got more votes than he did despite him being one of the clear. Heroes of that series And he really was not happy about that and it really kind of created this. This lifelong animosity with the sporting precedent. Already been brewing. But that one to him showed that he they were basically working against them at that point. Yeah and i think nineteen sixty was a pretty bittersweet ear because it was his breakout year If this status right. Dave says his average never dropped below three hundred. Yeah then that means he that means he was hitting three hundred in game one which is pretty remarkable To start out that hot and to maintain it over the course of a year right but if in playing winter ball in the caribbean just a couple of weeks before that it would make sense you know. Yeah and he You know they won the world series. Which is a big big deal in pittsburgh. But he didn't feel like he was getting his do like you said so. He didn't go off and celebrate with his fans He kind of went off to himself he was happy but it said The quote was. I'm happy but not but unconcerned with all the fanfare is what reporter said and he just wanted to get back home to puerto rico so he could use his world series bonus money to buy a house for his mother and he was loved there. So you know he wanted to get back to where he was Cherished in any did when he went back to puerto rico he was a national hero and the press like followed him everywhere he went and the kids loved him and he bought a big cadillac and mentor all the kids. So it's not like he went back like Like elvis in just sort of live high on the hog like he did go back a hero but he really really got involved with the community right away. Yeah he kept playing he would mentor little kids. Who were Learning to play sports in that actually became one of his dreams as he wanted to Make enough money and get big enough to build a sports complex a sports city or See dod deportes bad If i can pat myself on the back for that one where kids could learn to Play but also you know like you didn't have much of a role model kind of place you could find a role model to and not just play baseball but also play basketball or whatever sports You wanted to play. And i think that that was at the very least on his mind back. Then if not like one of his stated goals in his life by the time nineteen sixty rolled around he went back home. Yeah absolutely He got married in sixty. Four to Vera zabala and She was from his hometown. There in puerto rico. They had three kids and He was very insistent that all his kids be born in puerto rico which they were and i think one of his sons. I think junior even played baseball in ended up being an announcer. I don't think i mean. Obviously he was He he he never achieved like what his father did. But it's pretty imagine tough to grow up the child of roberto clemente. Sure it's gonna be in michael jordan son or whatever you know his his so he had roberto junior. There's also luiz roberto in roberto enrica. Those are is three sons. names callie. so so by the time nineteen sixty. It's like you said that was his breakout year. He got married in one thousand nine hundred sixty four And when he was down there in puerto rico one one thing. I always say I that i saw a lot of people kind of overlook is. He played winter ball almost every year. But there was one year i believe in nineteen fifty eight where he he didn't play winner ball and instead enlisted in the marines reserves. And that's how we spent the winner and he ended up spending the next six years as a marine reserve which is something that very frequently gets overlooked especially from americans who really don't think of puerto rico as a territory or fifty state like. He became a us marine while he was in in upping come in baseball star and then even after he was a baseball star he remained a marine until apparently one time I the i think the one thousand nine hundred sixty four world series Coincided with the training exercise in the the marines. Were like you're you're dishonorably. Discharged go play the world series. But he's in the marine sports hall of fame which. I didn't even knows a thing i didn't either but it makes sense. I think he's the only player in there. That's right that's not true. Surely there's a. I'll bet the rock was in there. Should we take a break. Probably all right. We'll take a break and talk a little bit more about the game of roberto clemente right after this. We just eighteen trump scandals away from election night on comedy. Central guys. I don't overreact. But i'm starting to worry that trump's not going to make america great again. The daily shows go the latest election news. But let's move on from some bad news to some bad news. Twenty twenty people. This is all we got the daily show with. Trevor noah new tonight at eleven ten central. Oh some good news. Thank you saw on comedy central. We cover the election. You cover your face. Hey everybody. I wanna talk to you about your website. That doesn't look good. And it's hard to program because squarespace does it better. Yeah they do. Scores space is this amazing magical tool that you can just basically go do and all of a sudden you have a website to do whatever you want with you can use it to sell stuff you can use it to tell your world about all the great thoughts you have and now scarce base also offers e mail campaign so you can take your business in below it up. Yeah we use squarespace. Ourself are very popular s. y. s. k. Live website keeps track of oliver comings and goings on oliver. Live shows and it's always a joy to go in there and update the squarespace site because it's so easy and it always looks so great and it makes me feel smarter than i am. Yeah they offer customizable layouts powerful editing mobile editing not just for your website but also for email campaigns to go check it out go to squarespace dot com slash duff today so just go to squarespace dot com slash stuff today for a free trial. When you're ready to launch. Everyone use the offer code stuff to save ten percent on your first purchase of a website. Domain squarespace just go. Check it out. Okay chuck so we have already said that He was a five tool player. Complete player And i mean you you. I think an have an understanding of what made his his place so amazing So what made his place amazing. I'm laying on my baseball resource. Well i mean he was. He was built for the game he was You never look never lifted weights in his life but he was sort of a perfectly chiseled specimen of a baseball player Very very handsome which has nothing to do with being a good baseball player but doesn't thought he thought to throw that in. It moves those cracker. Jack's sure does so. He was just very fluid aside from his base running. Like you mentioned earlier. It was kind of crazy. Think one sports reporter said it looked more like he was fleeing than running You'd have to see him run. He just all of his limbs were kind of just swinging and it wasn't the most graceful run which is weird because he was a very fluid and graceful player. yeah And those five tools You know he had. He was known most for his outfield arm. In i think he led the league in outfield. assists Five or six years in a row now or maybe not in a row but five or six seasons And he was fearless. He would he would. He was sorta like willie mays in that he would go after These outfield hits with reckless. Abandon like just run right into the wall to try and get a home run ball yelling over or like i said thrown out those players from right field to third base which is just a very very tough thing to do. And this was like before padded walls or at the very least. I didn't have them in a lot of the places he played because he would get like. Stitches are really mess up his shoulder or something like that and don't forget he's also playing through a spinal injury from that that car wreck and yet this guy's throwing like people out at third base from right field Or running for an infield grand slam. I mean just doing crazy stuff. Despite these these chronic injuries that he's been accumulating and i've read somewhere that he credits his mother with his arm he threw a was yeah. He was javelin thrower in highschool and that Really kind of helps you develop all of the same muscles that you need to throw something like baseball from right field the race or home but he still said yeah through the definitely surely helped but i got my arm from my mom. She can throw from second base to home plate with something on it still when it gets there so he said he got his arm from his mom. Which i thought was pretty sweet nice. I love it You know off the field is why he got the award named after him he would mentor Because he was one of the first latin american stars he would mentor that came through especially through the pirates organization but he would reach out to players on other teams. That were from the caribbean to try in Pave their way a little more smoothly When he would go to different cities he would go to visit kids in the hospital. Basically every city they visited He would mentor these players. He would this great great story about the friendship he developed. This is a good sign by dave About carole breezy vetch or brazil. Vic i'm not sure how you pronounce it but She was a phillies fan and a teenager and was hanging out after a game looking for autographs and saw little crowd around clemente but didn't really know who he was because he was playing for the pirates and she was taking spanish in high school so after she got her signature. She kind of let out a very shy gaseous and he just lit up in started talking to her in spanish he was like oh i don't understand so he switched to english and they ended up talking and talking and talking in the parking lot. Such that He and his fellow teammate. There were there missed the the bus back to the airport so her dad had to drive them and he was a big time. Philly's fan if you know anything about phillies fans. He was probably not happy about this but he had to drive to pittsburgh pirates To the airport and he and his daughter struck up a real genuine lifelong friendship right and like like like she was little sister figure to him so as her mom as well he kind of adopted them both as sisters Because he had had a sister had one sister out of his siblings and she had died in an accident when he was young. And so this girl just kinda stroke them and just the right way in her mom as well and so he adopted basically your whole family He had them out to I think the next away game in new york that they played he invited the whole family out. Put him up in the pirates hotel Took him out to dinner afterward. And then as their friendship continued he and his wife had a little carol Down for christmas in puerto rico. One one year so yeah. This is just this this random girl. He wasn't even a pittsburgh pirates fan. He became basically lifelong friends with her and her family. Yeah and i think it's really speaks to the man he was because it was a time in america where just to hear an american girl say gaseous. It seems very throwaway today. Because so many people have learned spanish and it's taught in all the schools but back then it was a big deal that this little girl said two words of spanish to him and that was all it took Just really really very pure sweet story. I love it. Yeah and the fact that he was you know out there. Signing autographs is apparently pretty standard firm to is known to be like the kind of guy who he's stuck around to sign every autograph that that was asked of him of all the kids. So here's a pretty pretty good guy. And so that's what makes it kind of rewarding than that. He finally started to get the recognition that he had long sought the he felt like he definitely deserved and one of the other. Things too is easy to point to roberto clemente and be like e typical. The guy was. He knew he was a great player and he wanted to respect for it to him. He represented puerto rico and the puerto rican people and he wanted respect not just for himself but for them as well like if he could gain respect other puerto rican people would gain respect by proxy. And so i think that's why that was one of the reasons why it was so important to him. Not just because he wanted adulation. And respect he wanted it for all puerto ricans as well and he was like a vessel for that kind of thing so finally when when it finally came around In one thousand nine hundred sixty six It was he. He actually started to loosen up. He became known as less moody bonded with his players a little more. Because he played all eighteen seasons in the pirates he was a pirate through and through but he he became. He was voted as the national league. Mvp in one thousand nine hundred ninety six and apparently that was a huge turning point for him and his relationship with america in baseball. Yeah it was a big deal And nineteen seventy-one one is when he went to a second world series. Great great world series. The year i was born. I remember it well. He was There was an underdog against the orioles. Who are really really good team at the time and it went to a seventh game just like the yankees game did and he got one. He hit an all seven games. Hit safely in all seven games which is a really huge accomplishment and hit a fourth inning home run gave set in game seven that gave them the lead Basically the go ahead home run and ended up winning the world series. He was named. mvp Like i said earlier after batting. Four fourteen in the series batting three forty one for the season and this time he was really really involved in the celebration and Like you said since sixty six had worm to To baseball to the writers a little bit more in definitely to his teammates right so it was like a really great way to end the career and that wasn't the end of his career. He played another season. The nineteen seventy two season And the pirates. Got all the way to the nfl east conference. I think they made it past They made it. I don't remember who they made it past but they face the reds loss to the reds for the nfl title to move onto the world series. But they got pretty far pretty respectable season And in that season he got his last hit. He had three thousand hits on the knows he was only the eleventh player in baseball history to reach that milestone And he was the first latin american player to reached that milestone which was a huge accomplishment for him as well. But there's also something really great about just such an even number three thousand hits And he got that three thousand fit in the in. The regular season They they didn't make it to the world series that year but he He went back down to puerto rico basically immediately after the season to go play winner ball again. That's right He he had the distinction of managing an all star team down there in the amateur baseball world series tournament which was held in nicaragua that year. And he really really felt for the people of nicaragua and Very tragically in december of that year. Big earthquake struck killed seven thousand people and left about a quarter million homeless and he really wanted to get involved. His heart was broken. He had met so many great people in nicaragua and wanted to get involved and help them out and organized personally organized organized a relief. Mission there Raising one hundred and fifty thousand dollars by going door to door to purchase food twenty-six tons of food and clothing medicine. He gets the word that there President there was corrupt was Like so often happens in situations commandeering the supplies and they weren't getting to the people so he said you know what i'm gonna do. I'm gonna get a plane. And i'm going to fly shipment of supplies down there myself. And so he boarded a seven on december thirty first new year's eve nineteen seventy-two two to do just that right. Yeah he did and it turned out. Unfortunately that that Highly successful campaign. The drive that he he spearheaded that produced twenty-six tons of of supplies well twenty-six tons was way too much for the dc seven that he charted and the engines were taxed from the outset. It took off from puerto rico inserted flying out over the ocean and the engines actually blew up and They tried to turn the plane around while i was on fire and fly back and they made it. I think a mile from the coast before the plane broke up and fell into the ocean and all people on board were killed including roberto clemente who again Overseeing personally humanitarian mission to nicaragua to help people who were victims of an earthquake and that's how he lost his life at age thirty eight yeah just brutal brutal end to his story People search for his body You know people on the beach. Shell daily vigils hoping that he would somehow be found alive and rescued But you know obviously nobody survived that crash. His body was never even recovered and A few months after the crash he was inducted into the hall of fame One of only two times. It's happened the other. Was lou gehrig where you don't have to wait that mandatory five year period after the end of your career and in fact i think his set the precedent now that If you had been deceased for six months you're eligible for hall of fame induction. And he was just the second one. They created that award in his honor. Clemente award the the which is for humanitarian baseball players. So that's a huge honor in and of itself I think you said that. He got like twelve golden glove or gold glove awards for fielding his last as thirteenth His wife accepted on his behalf. The following april after he died and vera dedicated herself to seeing through His dreams and actually organized in that Sports city in puerto rico built. And it's still there today As mashes amazing. Yeah yeah she. She really continued his work and It you know the. I hate that phrase behind every great man is a great woman because it's really beside every great man is a great woman right and that was definitely the case with vera in she was a lifetime. Humanitarian flan through pissed as well which is amazing. Yep one of the great things about roberto clementes. He's the kind of guy you can name a school after and feel pretty good about it. And it's a result there's in the round the world there's forty public schools to hospitals and more than two hundred park and ballfields named after him and i think now there's at least forty one public schools because this past september in orange county florida stonewall jackson middle school was renamed roberto clemente middle school. Yep well that's about Appropriate for our time. It's pretty great so Now there's forty one schools named after clemente so if you have a school in your like who can we name this after. You could do a lot worse than roberto clemente and people still probably complained about that. Who cares who cares eventually. Chuck you just have to say. I don't care that you're complaining. Yeah 'cause you're in the wrong that's right. You got anything else about roberto clemente. nothing else. Watch youtube videos of him to gather. Yeah just just say just typing like roberto clemente throw from right field or homerun. He's had some amazing home runs Yeah it's just fun to watch. Plus you're right. He he was. He was pretty easy on the eyes especially as far as baseball players. Go you know. A lot of them are horribly ugly. That's right by boom. Since i said that it's time for listener mail and she think think so This is Called eddie van halen. We lost eddie van halen recently and it was very tough for me but We got up an email from australia. Says jinxed it is in writing in because i was just listening to the political polling episode and chuck mention having a break from internet news and he was only looking at something that brings me joy like old led zeppelin van halen youtube videos cut to a couple of weeks later in the tragic news of eddie van halen passing like at some weird twisted way. The interesting oh you found something that brings you. Joy and twenty twenty. I'll fix that. Don't believe in that stuff but it was fairly ironic but truth be told usually be found watching old van halen video so I know i'm making light of the death of someone. Oh i don't think you really are matt. That would have been a massive influences a lot of lives but in these times we need to find a laugh wherever we can anyway love. The podcast can't wait for you to touch on some australian topics hint hint All the best and that matt from melbourne in you even said it right chuck thank god trucks. The i'm sure. Jimmy page's like i'm chuck. Stop watching videos of me. Okay well if you want to be like math from melvin who is awesome. Just for being from melvin. Because we've been melvyn. Melvin is a pretty great place Wonderful you you can send us an email. Send it off to stuff. Podcast iheartradio dot com stuff. You should know is production of iheartradio's how stuff works for more podcasts. My heart radio. Visit the iheartradio app apple podcast every you listen to your favorite shows or the headline. What does it for us. I'm eddie kaye williams an attorney and former public defender and host of a brand new podcast. Where we're going to cross examine news-making cases and famous faces to understand the cortex. And i'm dustin ross. Tv writer cultural observer and i am thrilled to be co hosting holding court with k williams is not a podcast about the law. This is the show for the people to help us navigate a rick system teachable moments from the so-called law and order headlines. Listen to holding court with ebony. K williams on the iheartradio app apple podcasts. Or wherever you get your podcast ever wondered why there are two ways to spell donuts or why some people think you can find water underground just by wandering around with a stick believe it or not. This is stuff you should know. You know the podcast. With over a billion listens. It's now for your eyes so you can read it stuff. You should know an incomplete compendium. Mostly interesting things covers everything from the origin of the murphy bed to people get lost preorder. It stuff you should know. Dot com or wherever books are sold.

baseball roberto clemente puerto rico pittsburgh raoult caribbean clemente dodgers salesforce pittsburgh pirates america charles w chuck bryant roberto clementes thirty percent roberto clementi league baseball chuck sixty degree ziprecruiter Rico
We Dont Smile Enough

Baseball Tonight with Buster Olney

37:43 min | 7 months ago

We Dont Smile Enough

"Baseball tonight, the podcast this is the baseball tonight podcasts for Tuesday September eight two, thousand, twenty producing from his home studio in the foothills of Connecticut. He's Taylor Schwenk on buster only working for my Home Office in New York. We got sad news on Sunday night just before the start of the Sunday night baseball game, Hall of Famer Lou. Brock. The cardinals base-stealing icon passed away at age eighty. One we're. Going to be talking about him with Tim Kirch in coming up. Marley. River broke the news that Major. League baseball is going to lead players from Puerto Rico where number twenty, one on Wednesday to honor Roberto Clementi other players will be allowed to wear a decal of number twenty one as well and Tim, and I are going to talk about the implications of that the Yankees are an absolute free fall. Foul. Booted by. Everybody, say run. First Pitch Fastball mad about surfing. and to avoid publicly score. To less around the third world tricks while the other way for two single and it's a one run game. Any lines? Fail for. Romero had to see if it were drawn, me stops at third blue chase have come all the way back. Shaw Rent A CENTER FIELDER BASE Geraldo. To Six That's my friend Dan Schulman on the Blue Jays television network. The Yankees began to the bottom of the sixth inning with a sixty two lied and they allowed ten runs requiring sixty seven pitches. So the Blue Jays win the game and I saw a headline and I wish I could remember the writer who did did the story but there was a great line I think it was in York Post the blue, Jays are the American. League's best new. York. Team because of course, they're playing in buffalo as of now the Blue Jays two games ahead of the Yankees in the wild card race, the Yankees game and a half had a Baltimore for the eighth spot two games ahead of Seattle they're hanging by a thread and they are playing really poorly the padres in the rockies are tied zero zero going the tenth inning in this is what happened for the pod. Race. Matteo will pinch and first base say what would be really nice to see somebody split a gap year. Run here is pro far who's grounded out to third grounded out to second and last time single to center profile lights into right field. That's GonNa get in rural torch the quarter Matteo Tayo headed for third Matteo be weighed around by Hoffman that throw the plate will be. Walking bits got. Jerks Bro said Oh what. What nothing? Deal I. Don't know if you watch that highlight Oh my God, how fast is horry Matteo rounding basis score that winning run that was really fun. He's gliding around the basis and everyone knew it was going down. It was a lot of fun. These padres man, they're awesome. They did get bad news yesterday has Moore suffered a fractured index finger trying to bunch the estimate last night was that he'll be out to six weeks in a lot of it will come down to pain Management Zach Zach is back in the Cleveland rotation and yesterday was excellent. Looking good fastball by police say role than I folks four days four scoreless sitting. So Cleveland, wind yesterday, and as of this morning, Cleveland and the White Sox tied for the American league central lead with Minnesota game behind in a wild game between the phillies and mets gene girl came through for the Phillies and the tenth. Had not done as well. There's a line drive out towards left field on the rudders Nimmo he's not going to get it. It's GonNa. A two run home run for. Up and the phillies really take the lead at. Nine seven game here the top of the Anthony that was a bullets. Oakland Sean Murphy got a big hit for the athletics. Hits the Center and that's it. Well, springer going back springer still going back and at that babies go. To nothing as a long home run. By Murphy. Line, Kuyper with the call on the athletics television network at the end of the day, the athletics leading the Astros in the American league west by four and a half games. Now, before we move on and talk to Tim Kurkin into Sarah Lang's fantasy focus football is back weekdays at ten am eastern time Matthew Berry Field Yates to find you bell Mike Clay are here to help you dominate your fantasy league. Watch a show on youtube twitter the ESPN APP in listen to the show wherever you get your podcast. Don't forget to draft your team compete with your friends and take on the crown by signing up now at. ESPN DOT com slash fantasy football. Before we move on, we need to mention our friends at Shell Shell knows that between every T- up layup batter up, you can't wait to catch up with your favorite podcasts. So come to shell and get three things done at once I fill up with Shell v Power Nitro plus to help keep your engine running like new then save up with the fuel rewards program and never pay full price for gas again, and finally snack up with in store rewards to save even more at the pump. Okay time to wrap it up make the most of the stop you need to make Shell in engines that continuously, you shall be power nitro plus premium gasoline C. full terms and conditions at fuelrewards dot com. Before we move on, we need to mention our friends at Shell. Shell knows that between every T- lab batter up that you can't wait to catch up with your favorite podcast. So come to shell and get three things done once I fill up with Shell v Power Nitro plus to help keep your engine running like new than save up with fuel rewards program and never pay full price for gas again, and finally snack up within store rewards to save even more at the pump. Okay time to wrap it up make the most of the stop you need to make with Shell in engines that continuously you shall be power nitro plus premium gasoline C. full terms and conditions at fuelrewards dot com. Heads rejoice not. Timmy time this a great game or what with ten Kurkin on Baseball Tonight and Tim Coaching covers baseball, ESPN, and Tim. We've got a lot to get to today the Yankees in an absolute free fall what an interesting weekend for Mike. Rizzo. Kidding thrown out of the Ballpark by an umpiring crew during the course, the game. But boy, it's been a tough week for the hall of fame. Last week, we got word that Tom seaver passed away of course and it's just a few days later, Lou Brock and other hall of Famer passed away. You wrote a really nice piece about this on Sunday evening I met him once I think I interviewed him once. But I didn't really gets nominal. What were your interactions like with him? While there was one that stood out I took my son Jeff to Cooperstown for the hall of fame induction and we saw Lou Brock in the pro shop of the golf course there. So Liu and I start to talk and he spent twenty minutes with me, my son talking to us about baseball. Says you have a great smile. Make sure everyone sees that smile as soon as possible smile can disarm people better than anyone and we don't smile up in this world. That's what Lou Brock told my ten year old son and it's all true and I thought you know Lou Brock's got better things to do than to spend twenty minutes with me and A. Ten year old but he did because that's who he is. When Lou Brock dive my son texted me said four I wrote anything for a said he said I'll never forget that conversation. That's what Lou Brock did for people. So whenever I see or think about Lou brock rest of my life, I will smile because that's what he did for us that day. Is it possible that the trade that he was involved in which incredibly involve these two rivals the cubs in the cardinals is that trade arguably the most one-sided deal in history it was the Ernie Braulio going from the cardinals to the cubs and thereafter Ernie Braulio in his career with the cubs seven nineteen with a five point four, zero era in Lou Brock went. The other way had a tremendous finish that nineteen sixty, four season cardinals when the world series he he goes on and has over three thousand hits and sets the record for stolen bases. It was that the most one sided trade in baseball history. Frank Robinson from Pappas. Was Pretty bad but I think the brock trade is for this reason, the championships they want buster. I'm little bit older than you. So I vividly remember nineteen sixty, seven world series and sixty eight world series how great Lou Brock was he was basically the best player on the field for those two world series combined don't look at those postseason numbers by Lou Brock he changed games with the way he ran the bases as you know he always went in feet first 'cause that was the quickest way for him the safest way for him but no one's slid into second harder. Than Lou Brock and he was such a good player he had tremendous power and bustard that stolen base record lasted me. He broke a record that it lasted for seventy years. That's how impressive it was, what he did and I think people under overrate him as a player I think he's underrated especially with the way changed the game with his legs only player. Well, he's the first player to steal one hundred bases after turning age thirty, which really tells you something. You know it's amazing and thought about this weekend. When you watch Lou Brock played in his air I thought he and Joe Morgan were two guys. who had that great base stealing arrogance like you felt like Lou Brock knew that he was going to steal second the guy most recently I've seen that with was Billy Hamilton who just you know I remember talking to billy when he was playing in the minor leagues. I think he stole six or seven bases in one game and I asked him you know how often did you go on the first pitch and he said all but one like he didn't care he from his perspective if they were going to, you know try to throw you out Lou Brock seem to have that and I loved the. tweet from Johnny Bench over the weekend talking about how trying to throw out Lou Brock. Was One of his greatest challenges right was very proud proud man of what he did buster. So Joe Torry told me once the final day of the Nineteen Seventy Seasons Joe had ninety nine RBI drive hundred run on the last game of the season he looks at the lineup and Lou Brock is not in the lineup on the final day and it wasn't him court game and said I'm not I feel very well, I'm not gonNA play today Joe and Joseph Louis half the play I need one hundred RBI. Bays. So he looks at the statue and Lou Broadcast Ninety nine strikeouts and he was so proud that he did not want to strike out a hundred times. So he sat out the final game of the season and maybe you can't look at that any other way than meaningless game and I'm not striking out a hundred times better than that. In a lot of ways. That's who brock was tremendously prideful in the way he played but especially the way he would seal the base. So Tim over the weekend I wrote in my Sunday column about how in the use of pitchers. This was actually I wrote it in the aftermath of Tom seaver passing away in the USA pitchers the analytics are driving the sport off a ledge because the analytics that are being used suggested you know what? It's better to bring in this parade of relievers and they all throw ninety eight and they all throw curveballs down the zone and they strike out the strikeout rate for the entire sport. This year is higher than Roger Clemens is strike rate in his career that's where we are and I. Feel like that Lou? Brock you know would be another example of a player who in this era would not exist because I'm looking at the you know right in front of him as baseball in front of me, the his baseball reference page he got thrown out a decent amount like you knew not front office is now if you don't steal successfully eight, hundred, eighty, five percent, they're basically saying we don't want you to run I don't think Lou Brock would have been given a green light tim. Absolutely not buster and he didn't walk enough. So therefore, he wasn't an effective player what people do what you can't measure is what Lou Brock did and other great base stealers back then to a starting pitcher. Savy. Kovacs, basically acknowledged that guy shook me up. He bothered me when he was on the basis I, wasn't exactly the same when he got on because it annoyed me so much that steel. So easily that matters buster and yes, you don't want to give away out on the basis but with the way we run the. Basis today we give out all over the place and no one sees bothered by that to get caught stealing a few times. Oh, you can't run you don't walk out. Oh, you're not good enough. This is where the analytics are not measuring anything and disruption that Lou Brock caused by being on the basis. All the time is is something that mattered but cannot truly be calculate. He was he led the National League and getting thrown out in seven different seasons. The first year that he went over sixty for stolen bases nineteen, sixty five. Caught he stole sixty three bases and he was caught twenty seven times the current front offices they would shut that down. They would basically say you're not allowed to run anymore and it's I. You know I I up Sandy, Alderson's voice in my head saying it's entertainment. That's what we're selling. We're selling entertainment. So maybe something for folks that think about you know where we're going sometimes some analytics to me generally speaking, I, love them but boy in different parts of the game I. I just can't stand it another hall of Famer being on this week a really cool gesture. Marley. Rivera was the first report on this Major League, baseball is going. To let players from Puerto Rico to honor. Roberto, Clemente will wear his number twenty one in games on Wednesday other players will be allowed to wear a number twenty one decal tim I I I I really feel like this is just one more step toward that day when they retire number twenty, one in perpetuity the way they did with number forty, two for Jackie Robinson. What do you think? Yes and I think they should. Now let's let's not mistake Jackie. Robinson was even more important in baseball history than Roberto. Clemente if we're trying to honor our greatest players ever and if we're trying to show exactly who did what at what time that guy was a hero? He was just a hero because of his baseball we'd know what happened and I think it's great that baseball is doing this. We were just to stayed in this game we're just and we need to to present it in a different way and let's not forget buster. He's the greatest defensive right fielder of all prime. He's the greatest throwing outfielder I've. Ever seen and he's one of the great hitter. We've ever seen I asked, Larry Bowl. What's who hit the ball harder than anyone you ever played against he looked at me like chuckled lap because Roberto Clemente who else that's what he said that's how good Roberto Clementi was given the entire body of work I. Think it's wonderful what's going to happen on Wednesday and I hope it becomes something permanent I. Think just if you remember that the first year in one, thousand, nine, hundred, Ninety, seven when Jackie Robinson's number forty two was retired initially a lot of players didn't participate a lot of players didn't wear forty two. And then over time, it got to be a popular thing and look there's no question that Alex Rodriguez with roots Dominican Republic said on our air last night like Roberta Clemenza hero to him. You mentioned your little bit older than me. So I'm curious I do have a very specific memory hearing on the radio at age eight that Clementi had been killed in that plane crash new even know one, thousand, nine, hundred, seventy, two, what you remember about that. Well, I. was in the Living Room and my father walked down the steps that my father was a great baseball man tremendous feel for the sport and a really good player in his day I. Didn't see my dad cry very often in my time and he walked downstairs the happiest man in the world to and I hop what's wrong and then he looked at me and he told me what happened and I just started to cry it was terrible. It was like oh My Gosh how how could that happen? So I remember exactly where I was and what I was doing when my father told the that Roberto. CLEMENTI guide and again I was old enough to understand it and appreciate it and appreciate him. But that was just a terrible moment in my life and of course, in the lives of so many others. So the New York Yankees might be in trouble they started this season sixteen and six, and since then five and fourteen and Tim. You know after hearing concern in the voice of Aaron Boone on Saturday and on Sunday, the game they played yesterday Oh my God there ahead six two and they allow ten run inning, which is just full of walks misplace. How how much trouble you think the Yankees are in at this point Well I think they're in big trouble and I think they're going to be lucky if they get the eighth seed at this point. Now, if you look at the rest of the teams, they should get the eighth see. But I watched that that six sitting last night busters sixty seven pitches that was torture for I'm not a Yankee Fan obviously but that was torture for any. Yankee. Fan To watch at amount of you know is a really good pitcher and he got clobbered that team looked dead and this after what Buni said over the weekend and It was so clear ten games in the next twenty against the team they have to beat the Blue Jays and then to lose lead like that and lose it the way that they did playing poorly in that inning that made it even worse. So I still think they're gonNA make the playoffs, but they are in deep trouble right now because they gotta get everybody healthy and they gotta get everybody hitting in order to do damage with the rage the Indians the White Sox, the twins, even certainly the as and maybe even the after that is a. That is a loaded group in the American league and the Yankees are in trouble against all those teams right now they got get some people back and Aaron judge is getting healthy Giancarlo Stanton is getting healthy. They seem to be making progress but I gotTa Tell Ya you know a couple of thoughts from yesterday one to read the post game comments where there conversations among the Yankee players about the pitchers couldn't see the signs. And that you know suggested that was an issue tim I just cringed like I hated that mindset because I'm thinking to myself? Yeah. Okay. So if the pitcher can't seem the signs because the lights in buffalo aren't that great that probably means that the hitting conditions for the hitters aren't that great. and they're all playing under the same rules and you know that whole thing about being able to see the signs that's not a new problem in baseball like they figured out a way to deal with that with with Nail Polish and the other thing too that's I. think really distinguishes this year's theme from last year's team. We rightly gave so much credit to the be teams so to speak on the Yankees. In the way that they performed when all these other guys got hurt, the those guys generally tim this year have not done that well. Mustard, they're be players, for reason, I off being a be major leaguer is pretty damn good. Let's. That but be major leaguers usually do not carry a team two years in a row there. There's a reason you're a fourth or fifth outfielder or a second D. H. or second first basement. All right. Because it's a really hard gained play and the do that two years in a row is really hard to do as far as excuses about not seeing the signs. Sorry Buster I'm not going there either there are no excuses in this season. Everything is off kilter and you have to deal and adapt be flexible with everything and to blame the the signs because we can't see in Buffalo. Sorry at that's not gonNA fly. So I mentioned Mike Rizzo had really interesting weekend, I. We got word that he got a three year extension You know he came into the year with just one year left on his contract. So he gets a three year deal. He says now that his priority is to work out a deal with manager Dave Martinez and then on Sunday, he got a check for yelling at the empire from a luxury. Sweden Atlanta with longtime crew chief Joe s telling a reporter after the game enough is enough. I wouldn't take that from a player. I wouldn't take that from a manager. If it was Donald Trump, I'd eject him too but I'd still vote for him that one thing I'd say is this is not Mike Rizzo's first interactions with empires. He kind of goes out of the box from where other GM's would go tim. Yeah and he's not afraid Mike Rizzo's bidding the game forever learned a lot of this from his dad who was in the game forever and he's not putting up with it but neither is Joe West it's just a May. Be. That guy was the private doctor got chucked out of game now no, there's no excuse for any of this camp role guy out of that spot in my mind however buck showalter told me during that fan list game in two, thousand, sixteen, fifteen against the white sox he said, we have to all be really careful what we said because not only could the the other team here everything we said because it was silent in the ballpark the buyers could hear everything we've said so we had to be extra extra careful, and maybe Mike Rizzo wasn't being extra careful but I don't think he thought he had to be from that this way and not in uniform I know you. Agree with me that the most fascinating races we go down the stretch is not the Yankees. It's the American league central because you have three teams basically running neck and neck Cleveland Chicago tied with Minnesota. Just one game behind them and because of the new playoff structure this year, this two thousand and twenty playoff structure. There's a lot at air tim like you obviously want to win the division and then you get Homefield and then you would hope that if you finish second in the division than you would be the number four seed, it looks like in all likelihood. But if you finished third among these three teams, you're going to be the seven seed. and. So you will not have you know theoretical home field. WHO's GonNa win the central. Well I. Think the Indians are going to win the central because they're pitching has been so good for all that we blasted that cleese Zach about it and he deserve every bit of it is one, thirty two he won again last night shade Bieber is unhittable at this point and I love the white sox and they're going to roll into the playoffs and I want. No part of them in the playoffs if I'm another team twins are making the playoffs, they went one hundred games. When they get healthy again, they can hit the ball out of the ballpark with anyone. But I think the pitching of the Indians is just that good that I think it's in a very, very close race between three teams. I think they're gonNA. Win It. All Right Tim. Thanks for doing this. Great to talk to us. Always. Okay. But Sir talk soon. Before, we move on, we need to mention our friends at Shell. Shell knows that between every up layup and batter up that you can't wait to catch up with your favorite podcast. So come to shell and get three things done once I fill up with Shell v Power Nitro plus to help keep your engine running like new then save up with the fuel rewards program and never pay full price for gas again, and finally snack up with in store rewards to save even more at the pump. Okay time to wrap it up make the most of the stop you need to make with Shell in engines that continuously you shall be power nitro plus premium gasoline C. full terms and conditions at fuelrewards dot com. Before we continue, we need to mention our friends. At Shell. Here's a fact for you not all synthetic motor oils are created. The same crude oil is like a bag of midst match rocks, all different sizes and shapes coming together. Natural gas is more like a bag of marbles all. Uniform size and shape designed to work together reducing friction in your engine. That's why he went pennzoil reinvented motor oil. They started with natural gas, not crude pennzoil synthetics. Base Oil is ninety nine point five percent free from the impurities you'd find in crude oil. So the next time you need to change your oil remembered as for pennzoil synthetic motor oil made from natural gas it gives you unbeatable engine protection. The proof is in the pennzoil based on sequence Ivy, a test using sae five W. thirty. Numbers game. Day reported or produce Melby Dot Com and Sarah. was start with this. I was asking Tim Kirch, and who's going to win that crazy American league central. Gosh you know I I'm GonNa go with what I want to happen. Even if I'm not one, hundred percent short will happen but I want the White Sox to win this division I. Just think that would be so much fun and I feel like we talked about entering the year how it seemed like they were a year away and with the new playoff format and everything else. It feels like they actually are getting their chance here and I think they might be the most overall complete team there with the fact that the Indians off I'm sorry the twins offense has not been what? It was last year we know the Indians offense is really not there. They have better pitching but I think the white sox might have the best met like Mesh of everything. Yeah I think I agree with you although it's interesting and just in talking with general managers, managers coaches in the last couple of weeks they've talked about how Cleveland would be the team. You would not want to face in the postseason because Sheen Bieber's that good like he is. We think of those postseasons that were dominated by one pitcher or hershiser nineteen eighty, eight you know Mike Scott you know is incredible. Back, in nineteen, eighty, six before the Astros got knocked out and everyone was afraid him Madison Bumgarner. Bieber looks like he could be that guy in the postseason where he just completely shuts down teams from day to day. All right. Let's play the numbers game number three. Number. Three is one. So Kyle Hendricks went innings yesterday just one run to the cardinals and really felt like a crucial win for the cubs there with how they'd played against the cardinals in the previous four games of that five game series. It's the second time. He's gone at least eight innings this year he had a complete game shutout on opening day. He and Erin knoll are the only pitchers to go at least eight innings multiple outings this year and neither of Knowle's were complete games and for Hendrix was the eighth time since the started twenty eighteen. Is Gone at least eight innings and allowed one run or fewer, which is most in the majors. In that span he has three starts like that against the cardinals in his career, which are the most in the majors since the start of two thousand fourteen and if they're going to win that division, if they're going to go deep in the playoffs, they need ace number one in ace number two, Kyle Hendricks Darvish and Hendrik showed us again last night why he can be as number two or number one wherever you wanted to find him number two. Number two, ten to the Blue Day scored ten runs in the sixth inning against the Yankees last night it was the Blue Jays I ten run inning since August thirty first twenty, ten inning that was capped off by Jose Batista Home Run, which was his forty third of the season just roll a throwback there, and it was the first time the Yankees allowed ten or more runs in an since May twenty third twenty. Fifteen against the Rangers when the Rangers scored ten in the third off of CICI's about the s meal Rogers, but it was the First Time Inc. Bowl Penn allowed ten or more in an innings June twenty second nineteen, thirty, two against the St Louis Browns that was also six bending last like last night it did not include any home runs because this was nineteen, thirty, two baseball, but it was capped off by triple. Number. One. Number One is twenty one. So I feel like I may be setting a record for how many consecutive weeks come on this podcast and talk about Fernando Tattoos Junior but I'm going to keep doing it because he's having this absolutely outstanding season. So twenty one is his age and he has three point one war on fan graphs right now, which is zero point seven more than any other position player and he has two point eight on baseball reference, which is just point to behind mookie betts for most among position players the. Point here is that it's time to start talking about the MVP award with him. No player has ever won an MVP in a season where he was twenty one at the end of the season. So when he was twenty one years old for the whole season as cities will be the youngest mvp ever the current youngest is by a blue who was the youngest of four guys to one in a season where they were twenty two. So by the Blue, turn twenty two in July of that season. So he's the youngest the. Other twenty, two year old MVP's Bryce Harper in two thousand fifteen johnny bench in Nineteen seventy and Stan musial in nineteen forty three, and there have been five twenty one year olds to finish second in the voting according to Elias, might chat was the most recent to do that in two thousand twelve also Alex Rodriguez in Nineteen ninety-six alkaline in one thousand, nine, hundred, fifty, five, any Mackie's nineteen fifty, three I'm Bob Feller in nineteen forty and I really think the team is going do something historic this year as he's been. Doing practically every night. Yeah. He would have to completely collapsed down the stretch to not win the award because I think in part he's gotten so much hype which is going to help with the voters like he is top of mind every single day it feels like because he's playing so well, and so he's got a huge lead and it's hard to imagine maybe if he got hurt or something like that where he wouldn't win the award real quick before you go do you think the Yankees are in trouble? Really. You know before yesterday I thought maybe it was a little overblown but after seeing that and obviously that's a bad ending. That's just a blip. You know again it's away from you but it does feel like you know I know that people were talking to the last few days. The next man hasn't stepped up I think that was something that Michael Cases on TV a couple of days ago it really feels like it's very hard to do this when your team has been hurt for basically to your straight and some of the contributors like Gary. Sanchez and others just aren't contributing. So I do think it's concerning. I'm not sure that the mariners or any of those other teams that are beyond that a seat in the American league are going to come in you know overtake the Yankees but I do think it's pretty concerning down the stretch and you have to wonder how that three-game series will look for them. Yeah. I'm shocked with Gary Sanchez with how what forty eight strikeouts in one hundred plate appearances some crazy number like that. All Right, Sarah, thanks for doing this. Thanks for having me about Sir. Bleacher tweets. Are you buster tweets for Tuesday come in with sterling at stir ride seventy-three. He writes in Hey Buster I. Haven't heard anyone mentioned he Oscar Hernandez and the MVP discussion would you place him in the top ten currently and then he followed up with nevermind jinxed it Sergey OSCO get healthy soon. It's interesting. I'd love to hear from Sterling. You can tweet us again and tell us whether or not. He really believes in superstitions or just sort of making an aside right there. 'cause i. let me tell you something. There are people absolutely believe in that Taylor. You one of those of you send in a tweet asking questions like data about particular player got hurt that you would somehow bad something to do with that. Absolutely. Not My friends get on me they call me the human jinx but I I don't I don't believe in such sorcery now I'm with. You I I I just know not related, but I get forty percent of the world will bark at me. If I tweet out after five innings at somebody's got a no hitter because they're convinced I've jinxed it to him a buster. Well, I'll keep an eye on that for you. John you'll is up next at j buell nineteen. He writes an era made an interesting comment on. Sunday. About the padres maybe getting the MVP the rookie of the year in the NFL with Jose Abreu you seemingly leading the pack after winning player of the month Lewis Robert Being Ridiculous In the AL possible to yes there's no question. Both of those guys in position to win their award depending on how they finish last one up for today John Tied Joe in with all three divisions in the AL being led by a team that was not the preseason favorite rank the three leaders based on talent watch ability and likelihood of holding on to win the respective divisions easily American league central one I think because idiots like before the season started, we're talking about the Yankee so much that the American leases probably Second Oakland is leading Houston by four nab game that division seems like it's put to bed. Yeah Lot of a lot of Yankees, come up in over here on this podcast. I'm not mad about it though Hashtag bleacher tweets on twitter about really. Who would of guessed that we'd be talking in the last three weeks of the season about the Yankees having to fend off the Orioles Tigers in mariners for the play offs it's Gain I know and the mariners surging. Dave show and field high trait. Now, let's go out the cheese He probably is GonNa take a week off and Go out and hang outside the ballpark and be just screaming and listening to the radio cheering on his team. I could see it. All, right. That's it for today. My thanks, Sarah Tim detailer have a great day everybody. Thanks for listening stay safe and remember hate inequality based on skin color Su something that we need to fight against every single day. Now before we go, I want you to listen to a little bit of Lou Brock's hall of fame. Speech given listen. To this day I believe that. I somehow may true to my inner feelings. Why so many peer groups lost their own suffer themselves and the turmoil and anxiety of those years. I used to seek out those who shared my views about baseball and if my. Peers shared my views. I was open up speak Bhai language if they didn't. Want, only speak there's Leaving College I along with my group realized that we had to make a choice. I made a choice choice to follow my dream. Entity Tommy Major League Baseball. Player. Upon entering the big leads, I discover I. A Joel and learning and then sense of accomplishments. Not only enriching milestones but also in media ship. I tried to. Take Baseball with me everywhere I would ago. But it also seems out of place by newfound friend. Found it extremely difficult to explain why. The pursued AMAC, slam it desire to itself with special to me. During the day of my career, I discovered that there are three factors which calls one to Spain any kind of of success. The first one is. The ability to put it all together. Many times you hit expression nobody ever tell you what exactly It is. Minute players can run many hit minute can throw. But when they put it all together the media referred to them as superstars. Was the other factor to remain at the top. One must believe that he could be the best. Third factor that became very important to sustaining success is something called the support of the keeper. Many times I have said, there is nothing like the roar of the crowd to start a rally. Player expert, Ed's. Thanks for listening to the baseball tonight podcast. If you're playing fantasy baseball, forget to listen to the fantasy focus podcast checkout all podcasts at ESPN DOT com slash. POD Center. Baseball tonight, the PODCAST.

Lou Brock Baseball New York Yankees White Sox American league Blue Jays Shell cardinals Tim Famer Lou Buffalo Mike Rizzo Tim Kirch Tom seaver Cleveland Roberto Clementi Marley Jackie Robinson buster tim
Sports Talk Guest Derrick Barnes author Who Got Game? Baseball Amazing But True Stories!

Doug Miles Media

12:26 min | 9 months ago

Sports Talk Guest Derrick Barnes author Who Got Game? Baseball Amazing But True Stories!

"Hey. Out to the ballgame. Out with a crowd. Buy Me some peanuts and crack her jack. I don't care if I never get back. Let me root root for the home team if they don't pay. It's a shame because it's one. Out on the. And joining us now great to talk some baseball you. We're GONNA. Talk about a great new book about baseball as the season will start, actually we, as we talk a tomorrow or going to be talking about a book called who got game baseball amazing, but true stories between today by Derek Barnes on the telephone book kind of going through some of the history of the game and great illustrations as well and Derek joined us today. I believe from Charlotte. North Carolina and Derek Talk how you pretty good sunny. CHARLOTTE, North Carolina and doing good. I know he was forced to do this back in March, but we all get interrupted for some reason, I don't know why. Yeah Man, this is wind up crazy world man trying to get used to everything and this. Is China away. We have four boys trying to keep them all busy, but you know we getting. We didn't hang quarantine mass You know social distancing in life man. So what can you do? Together we down here in Sarasota, we were covering the the orioles. Is the Orioles train down here and we've got to see a lot of teams. Thank. He's come, and we're all set to go and then boom. That's it, but anyway we're. We're to have a shortened season. Great that Yearbook even though supposed to come out in March just came out this week. In kind of really gives the history of of the game I guess it's Kinda geared toward the young fans right for children, necessarily young fans. It's for. Middle school students so. Between Ages of nine and thirteen who who may or may not be baseball fans I'm I'm more of a football fan? We actually approaches publishing company with. With a a historical fiction series, they didn't. They didn't like the series, but they like the way. Are you a like my writing style, so they asked me if I was interested in doing a non fiction series. I'd never done or not fix. All my word is fishing of so I took own challenge and I'm a big I'm a big history buff, so you know if I understand histories is not about learning about pass, but understanding history dictates everything that we're doing right now, so I just use my love of sports and I love history, and it's just been a lot of fun. I collect hot his inflammation. Audience you've written so many books got awards to for books geared toward children so that this is a little bit of departure at least as far as sports goes right sportsbook. On some of these things that happened in baseball that must've been fun for you all year. Truly Fun I I. I ended up Brighton like seventy five essays pretty much, and then we will it down to the forty five actually made it into the book and I divided up into four chapters the first one is given to players kind of highlight, these unknown pillars of the sport. The kids may may not know that in the second chapter There's. Just a lot of funny and just very exciting story they really. Feed into also the issue of the sports central three. Radical records. Baseball's nothing else is about numbers is about stats, and and the final chapter is is Gelao, comebacks goes up. Everybody loves a great comeback story whether it's individuals Battle with you know injuries. The team to win down for like three or four in this came on back, so yeah, just trying to squeeze it all in and I think we came up with a nice combination. One of those in the pivotal players section a picture that really almost mythological sexual page trade I remember seeing him as a kid, I think he was still doing some old timers dame's. Sixties or seventies van. Company Yankee, stadium, on TV, but boy he must have been something in his prime the almost a mythological hero right, wasn't he? He's played for the Kansas, city monarch and the old. Negro Leagues and and many historians Colin Positive Greatest Perjury of all times, yeah. He. He was a Negro League legend, but he didn't get a chance to play in the She didn't get a chance to play in the mail until he was. Forty plenty playing for the Cleveland Cleveland Indian, and actually was on that team that they Do you want to the world series plant almost fifty years old, and he's uh, amazing player that all those crazy names for the different types of pictures that he had but The I forget what he called him, but he had. Some wild names in an event is forties. Here's difficult to from what I hear it so great guy and And the other chapter you talk about the the legends of the game. sensationalist stories One guy who's a hall of Famer, but it doesn't get quite as talked about as others I think Roberto, Clementi I saw a little bit of him into the end of his career. You got a nice chapter on him, but man at three thousand hit sadly. Sadly died the following year actually doing some charity work, but three thousand hip guy, but nobody really talks about him much lamenting. Yeah, and he he he died thirty eight. Actually now you know. He never found his body, but he was I. think the you know the coolest thing I've picked up a Baden research on him, so he was. He was such a philanthropist author feel I land player inducted into the baseball hall of fame and. And Yeah he was, he was delivering goods to You know earthquake victims down in the Nicaraguan the, but he was he was, he was a great guy on and off the field, and just a model for baseball players. On the online about a hidden. Again I hate everybody standard. Far Back now. When we Paul Player, and of course, the talk about the Great Willie. mays. You got a nice chapter on their. The the he made so many great catches, but I guess in the one people historians remembers the want he made in the world series against the giants right talk about. William. About him, but just writing that catch alone. You didn't is essay on it. Willie mays. down. He's fine Five tool player of all time play. That can do everything. That catch was talk comic. flown multiple reasons one of them. Is Houston shy of this field? They were at the Polo grounds. And that still was not as wasn't made for baseball. It was made for multiple other activities, but this is from the home plate to our field is four hundred eighty three seats. In comparison Yankee Stadium Outfield. Eight the joke, the fact that he had to say this ball down contorted, his body, and catching 'em. Most of the most fascinating mother play was not even A. It was a throwback infield. To say you. Around those guys out in that late show people to that series. I think that will be there. Series. WHO. Okay! Yeah, I've seen films of you can sit on Youtube, and I remember I grew up in New York and he came to the mets end of his career, so I got a little bit I am in New York Tell in, but boy, what a what a great player Willy Willey was still doing pretty well I. Understand, believe just turned eighty, nine or ninety recently awful and and the book that I. Had more time in the book is filled with great stories like that somebody. Unknown are a little known stories. You got about thirty three inning game. You got about the Spitball, so You're really go the gamut. Derek looks him the title once again. Who Got Game Baseball? Amazing, but true stories and Derek Barnes has been our guest. The website you direct people to my website is garrick. D. Barnes Dot Com and my instagram is. Author Dared D Barnes and Iowa. Twitter counter author underscore DVD He's GonNa get the books from every major of book store Barnes and Noble Amazon but I'll I always try to get people to their local independent bookstores. You know the community, so yeah, you can pick anywhere books. Curry will also put a link on Web site as well. There I wish we had more time. Hopefully we can chat again down the road, but great great idea for a book. Good luck with it, and we will talk to you soon. Caribbean with us. Thank you, thank you. Wild. Yes yes, Jaggi hit that ball. The crowd went. Off that Bob Holiday mind. Yes. Yes, Jackie hit that ball. Is mellows captured A. New! Job Into. The Najib bag when Jackie comes to bad. The teams through. Around. How. Oh. Oh. Yes. Off. His yes JAG Israel gone. I'm stanbrook so two years ago, I formed remote area medical to help people overseas, but then we found generations of families in America isolated by policy from the healthcare they need. Together we can take dental vision and medical help to a million adults and their kids. Right here at home in the United States of America.

baseball Derek Barnes Charlotte North Carolina Derek Talk Derek Yankee Stadium orioles Negro League Sarasota America Jackie China United States Yankee instagram Cleveland Cleveland Indian Brighton Bob Holiday
New Era

PTI

20:03 min | 11 months ago

New Era

"Crude oil is crude. Natural gas is pure. That's why Pennzoil's based oil is made from natural gas, not crude gives you unbeatable engine protection, the prove pennzoil based on sequence for aware test using sap five W. thirty. Radio Man in his own attic episode seventy six woman. We're going to START WITH NASCAR today. Bubba Wallace, who is the only black driver in Nascar, told CNN and I'm quoting now. My next step would be to get rid of all confederate flags. No one should feel uncomfortable when they come to a NASCAR race. Get them out of here and sports business. Journal is reporting that. NASCAR is considering this. So, what do you think should NASCAR do this? Just start with my bias, you know me well enough, but let me just remind people. I I'm a son of two southerners who fled. The South fled during the great migration after the depression and. I feel a certain way about the confederate flag, and probably even more strongly than Bob Wallace and I understand exactly. I see the southern flag and it. I mean it it just. It raises the hair on my arm I I. Find It loathesome. Tony I don't know that this is gonna fly I. Mean a significant portion of NASCAR FAN base believes front first of all is southern, if not directly from in terms of heritage, and believes in the confederate flag, and when you talk about Biz is going to take a strong stand, and it's going to take a stand where the the president of NASCAR says. This is what we're doing. He's GonNa. GonNa, get support from the other drivers, not just bubble. Wallace Jimmy Johnson is out there saying he's out in front saying Hey I'm educating myself about all of this I am calling friends friends of color and listening to the experiences of their life, and he's already talked to bubble. Wallace and I'm sure we'll talk to him again. I admire the courage. It takes to say get this Outta here. Do I, know that the NASCAR is going to do that and make it fly. No I, don't. So I was looking at one of those video presentations that the NASCAR drivers did which is sort of similar to one that the NFL players did a lot of big names. NASCAR involved including recently retired. Dale Earnhardt Jr. whose word mean something to me and I. Think in the sport and they said they were committed to listening. They said and I'm quoting now to no longer be silent to make real change. This would be real change. This would be walk the walk. Because as you say, there are southern roots in Nascar and a lot of these people. They look at the confederacy as a sort of romance of rebellion as breaking away from authority, they may have no understanding whatsoever that to black people. There's no romance in it that states seceded from the union and fought for the confederacy did so to retain slavery, so there's gotta be a business calculation here and we're both at the same spot because you have to say how many white fans will walk away. How many black fans will walk in, but I will tell you this might, and I think I. Find Myself saying this all the time. This! Is that real moment? These are those real conversations. You can't sell look confederate flag getting more. You can't do it so I think Nascar not too should I think they will. I do Tony. I. Once again. That's about the fifth straight day I. Find Myself saying partner. I hope you're right, but you don't Tony One hundred and ten miles south from where you sit in your attic is a place called Richmond and they host a big race. Yeah, and if you tell me can go to Richmond and that race in Nascar, veteran flag in the future and in Richmond, they just took down a famous confederate statue, or decided to take down the governor, so we know that that change appears to be a common, but that would be that would be substantive change. Tony I think. You're one hundred percent right? Yes it would. Yes, it would yeah. Let's. Move Tony. To this I was story over the weekend I restrict coach Chris Doyle was put on administrative leave after allegations of bias behavior toward black, I will football players since that action, more and more current and former Hawkeyes have spoken out about the culture for black players at Iowa last night, Sophomore Defensive Back Caviar. meriwether posted a statement on twitter. The State of Of Iowa, fans would not support players who neil for the national anthem quote. Do not support us during the season. Do Not Watch us on TV. Do not ask for photos and autographs I would rather play. Four thousand fans would care about us as people than seventy thousand who only care about us when we are on the field entertaining them close quote. Tony. We continue in this vein. Your thoughts on what's unfolding at Iowa. It's very problematic for Iowa football. It's very problematic for the longest tenured D. One coach out there ferrets I hope. I pronounce his name correctly. He wants to recruit black players into a state that is ninety one percent white demographically. He's got his current and former black players, saying they were held to a different standard than white players. He's got this strength coach out there. WHO The black players have turned their I R- on this is Fahrenheit. Drew brees moment. He's gotTa find a way to get that team together and convince them that. This is a Redo for all of them that he's with them. I don't know. I don't know if he can do it. Well Tony. His credibility is what's at stake here. For that for that program and the university boss's the president of Iowa is going to have to really sort of be plugged into this because Tony, look. GROWNUP CHICAGO. There were always I will recruiters basketball and football where I lived getting kids from Chicago the south side of Chicago included and so Tony. When I grew up. I didn't know much about historically black colleges, because the big ten schools, including the University of Iowa had black students. You decades back you go decades back with many of the victims schools, and so yes, the coaching staff and I will now their credibility is on the line when they say look, we're going to make it so that you still want to come to Iowa. Believed so they're going to have to prove this. They're going to have to sell their own current players Tony and their alums because of their alums, and there's some famous guys in your guys who played in the NFL if they don't WanNA sell Alma Mater. What's going to happen at the University of Iowa? You're going to see them sink like a rock in the big ten if they can't do. So let's just take a look at at what I think is going on here. This is the me too movement coming to athletics. There's an inventory out there that you're going to have to go through. You're going to have to go through all of these claims as people look back on their careers and they say this happened to me. All of that is going to have to be dealt with this is. You always talk about the real hard conversations. These are the you'll hard conversations to use our first story with NASCAR. Some of these coaches, some of these staff members. They're going to end up like confederate statues. They're going to be toppled down. This you know change is not easy. It's not just a will do this. Everything will be fine these hard conversations. You and I have to have them you. Everybody's gotTa have everybody's GonNa ask credibility. During dating trips now. Don't you think recruiting visits to people's homes and going to be a little bit different now. A lot different. It's going to be show me prove it. Sign it. Give me an out if it doesn't work all of those things. Let's move on to a topic. I know that you're interested in because it's you boy Daryl Morey who have merged from his cocoon, and he has told something called the pump podcast that he takes the blame for not surrounding James Harden with a good enough cast. He said I'm quoting most days I wake up saying I've let them down because I haven't gotten the right players to win a title unquote. Bunny standing with your boy on this one. No I think it's a great bit of GM. ING. Out there and you say the James Harden Saint James Harden He. He knows the stories out there. Put It on me. I like people at every level who can say I will take accountability and sell that and mean Daryl means. Daryl's not saying this sort of. sock up to James, Harden. He believes this because he says he thinks about it at night and I know he does because I've talked to him about it and no, I'm not pinning this on on Darrow Maury James Harden's had some big moment in his career and most of them. He is not cashed in on because they've come in things like all game. Five gained six gained seven. I mean we've seen it Tony so no, I mean when when Chris Paul was on that team and they nearly had it. I you know I believe if Chris Paul is healthy and he doesn't have to go out with the with the injury. Game six or game seven one of those games I think Houston's going to win and get to the NBA finals. I know you don't really believe that but James Harden wasn't the most important player on that team, even though he was perhaps the best player on that team, but Daryl Morey put the right team round James Harden at least twice and James Harden had every chance to get his team through. If you're going to be one of the goats, you gotTa Win Those Games and he didn't do it. So. Let me say first of all that if Daryl morey wakes up every morning thinking about James Harden. Matches you cannot wake up every morning. I think about James Heart and let's go over what you're talking about. James Harden is a great player on a Wednesday night. He's ever in January and February. But in the playoffs in clinching games two thousand fifteen golden state. To of eleven shooting twelve turnovers, two, thousand, seventeen, San Antonio to of eleven shooting six turnovers, two thousand eighteen golden state to thirteen from three, two, thousand, nine, hundred and Golden State four turnovers in the fourth quarter Houston lost them all daryl. Morey tries everything Chris Poor Russell Westwood go small. Go big down. Boy Tries everything. Not Everybody wins Mike Not Everybody wins. There's some great players out there who have never won and and a lot of people came up against Michael Jordan and it couldn't be my. You, know, James Harden couldn't win with Kevin Durant and Russell Westbrook in. Oklahoma said it sometimes happens, but the fault is as much. James Harden's as it is everybody else's and not everybody wins all the time. They don't I mean just little history lesson, boys and girls, Jerry West is the logo and we love him. But Jerry West and the Los Angeles Lakers choked time after time. They want one and who's the first person who reminds US say? How great is Jerry? Jerry says. We didn't do so I don't know if James Harden has to have a moment. We deals with himself and how he's playing Tony. Those numbers you cited those are indictments. They are in terms of great playoff basketball, and by the way it's not automatic. It's hard to have great games in those moments and he. Hasn't has it? Is it is? Golf Tony. Golf I know how excited you are. About to get a restart Thursday at the colonial in Dallas, good CBS announced yesterday that some, but not all golfers will be might this week, and none of them will be wearing earpieces which allowed for the announcer. To player conversations that we saw enjoyed so much in the match with Tiger and Phil Manning and Brady. I know how crazy you are about having people might up. What do you think about this? Okay, so first of all. I don't care if everybody talks, but if some people are miked up if you carry one little piece of equipment, that's physical I. believe everybody's got to carry them. You have to talk to everybody but everyone. The playing field has to be level in that regard as far as I'm concerned I. Find it amusing, Nick Faldo. Who's really good in a great guest on this show. When we used to have guests, he said Dolphins are entertainers, and they have to do something different now. Yeah, they do but Nick Faldo also admits he was a golfer, he'd say no I don't WanNa do this I don't Wanna I don't WanNa have to talk to anybody out there. To your point, just being mic`ed up to me is half a loaf is weak. I want the cross talk. I want the dialogue. Barclay. Did you know you got I? Want you to have to answer. Some might up. So what so we know you want Charles in the tower? Now or on the course you'd provoking people talk. I know that's what you want. To be. Like a giant blimp. That's what I want. On. Tony, you notice only about five golfers you WanNa hear I. Understand what you're saying is. They ought to be Mike for a formality. That thing is a way that much. It's a microphone. That's it. The technology today allows for some wireless piece to be carried around that a golfer. Does it notice? We're told I don't want to hear from all of them I don't want them. All might cause ninety percent of people. Being Mike is a waste of time. Where is the NFL the NBA? You just get people like Lawrence Taylor helping whatever redskin. He ran passed on a Sunday to say son Y'all got to do better than this. You don't get that often enough right so if you could have war if you can tell her everybody's GonNa be Lt. that put them out there, but they're not gonna be that. Now I know you're right about that and you don't have to talk to all of them i. just think that what made the baseball games so charming was the players were miked up yet? A couple of guys on the cobbs Brian Rizzo right I think. Those guys. Now these yeah. Okay well. Rory is personality of justice. This is yes. They will personnel, and by the way just as a side note, the field is great for the colonial. A top five and eight of the top ten tiger I wish I would've said yeah. I'll go play time. You shouldn't just walk into the room with the rest of the boys can come ten minutes late. You want the room to be feeling. Then you look and you see tie. Come on now I. Don't Tiger show up for this. You'll get there. then. Let them come to the second round. Just show up. Say. Let's go great with Debbie Tiger with a microphone for the second round over the weekend. They'll be so cool. For the happy's in my own addict. Happy sixty nine th birthday dave, Parker history lesson kids, the best arm in the outfield always belongs to the right field, and for many years the best arm in the National League belonged day, -partment Pittsburgh won three straight gold glove. Thousand Nine hundred seventy, five to nineteen, seventy-nine, he throughout seventy two runners, and he was feared at the plate career to ninety hitter, nineteen seasons, the two thousand, seven hundred twelve hits and three hundred thirty nine homers in Pittsburgh where he was part of the nineteen seventy-nine. We are family world champions. He was the NL MVP and nineteen seventy eight, ultimately, he was a seven-time all-star and he. He picked up another world series ring late with the as Parkas. Five million dollar deal over five years with the pirates made him the first professional athlete to average one million dollars a year there was controversy as well admitted using cocaine regularly and testified that the infamous Pittsburgh drug trial. That stain is said by many to be a contributing factor to why Parker is not in Cooperstown. Cobra, Tony. Dave Parker such a big man and he moved by. I loved to watch day. Parker play growing up even when he was in those. Hideous uniform by the way, those hideous pirate uniforms in time, those relatives of like. A yellow cab insist America. But I I was parked and just think how great you have to be to essentially. SORTA Kinda. Replace all you can't replace Roberto. CLEMENTI! I mean you have to move into I mean come on now. Roberto Clementi don't want to follow that and Dave Parker Man. I think he belongs to hall of fame I really do. Personal note happy. Birthday, Carol. We moved to happy anniversary. Barton Valentine on this day twenty one years ago. While managing the mets, Valentine got tossed only to return to the dugout meaning later with a fake mustache sunglasses and a t shirt. As you see in this classic video, it looks like a porn star skulking around. Valentine was fine. Five grand suspended two games for this stunt. Downtime played ten seasons in the bigs. Were he learned enough that the Texas Rangers named him their manager when he was just thirty five years old, and maybe that's why you always thought. It was the smartest guy in the ballpark. He managed the Rangers. The Chiba Lotte Marines in Japan. The mets the Marines again where he won. The Japanese world series has played through into the air like a rag doll in the red sox ranks forty seventh all time in manager wins, but he has just a five. Oh, four winning percentage Valentine by the way is now athletic director at Sacred Heart University in his native Connecticut. Doesn't seem to you like Valentine was just one of those people. Who loved baseball so much he will go to any corner of the earth to have a team. If somebody said you can have a team, you can be in this league and I know. The few times I had as a sports writer to be around. Listen to Bobby Valentine. I don't know about how you felt about that. I liked him very much. I liked him on television. No, he was. He's great to talk is great to talk to. Happy trails to training camp for Dalvin. Cook the Vikings Star running back once a new deal. He's threatening not to show up at camp if he doesn't get one. This happens every year with somebody when you it's. Melvin Gordon one you. Zeke Elliott one years Lebanon del this year. It's Dalvin club was the centerpiece of the Vikings offense last year with eleven, hundred, thirty, five, rushing yards and thirteen touchdowns. It looks over Kirk cousins, making one hundred fifty million dollars over five years, and he says give me some of that. is due to make one point three million dollars this year, and is reported in looking for something in the thirteen to fifteen million dollar range, but as a player with less than four years in the League Cup stands to lose a year towards his unrestricted free agency, and would be a restricted free agent, two thousand, twenty one, plus there's the possibility being fined fifty thousand dollars a day for his holdout, which could. To more than his salary. So, where is the leverage here? It's only the leveraging net. You WanNa put this all on Kirk cousins. You like that you want to put the whole thing on them. Because I mean I I to me. That seems like a bit much. In Cook Thirteen touchdowns only Adrian Peterson for that franchise has more in a season rushing hot. The Great Chuck Foreman Big here twelve a couple of times. Maybe he was tied with once with thirteen. Come on now. Vikings serious. Are they about winning? It would seem to me if you're offering ten and you know the guy really wants thirteen. You can get the something that's doable. It would seem like that.

Darrow Maury James Harden NASCAR Tony One Tony I Daryl Morey Tony Iowa NFL NASCAR University of Iowa Dave Parker Barton Valentine James Harden Bubba Wallace Wallace Jimmy Johnson Pennzoil Mike president baseball football
Hour 2: Remembering Hank Aaron

The Stephen A. Smith Show

33:25 min | 3 months ago

Hour 2: Remembering Hank Aaron

"The max kellerman show the podcast needed just one more time bay route in to to break the record and of course throughout that entire time. He was subjected to death. Threats to racism is one of the most important people who ever played the game of baseball in our country and one of the most underrated baseball players of all time. That's right underrated as the home. Run champ. I you know anyone who seriously considered barry bonds the cheater a homerun champ get out of here. Bonds was one of the greatest players who ever lived before the juice but then at the age of thirty five in six weeks he put on thirty of lean muscle his head forehead triples and size and his home runs at-bat ratio doubles at the age of thirty five. Get outta here. Get all the way out of you. It's laughable and maguire and so so the three of them can all take a hike hank aaron clean seven fifty five and he did it at a time when seven hundred fifteenth home run. Baseball was still the number one sport in america head of football and basketball and by the way through his career in the fifties and sixties baseball so much bigger than football and basketball. It's embarrassing the nfl's number one and his baseballer mba number two know it was like the base baseball's number one through ten and no one cared about the nfl or nba compared to baseball not close the economy of baseball's much bigger march more fan interest. They were much bigger celebrities in the popular imagination. Right what what football figure from the nineteen fifties was as big as like mickey mantle. Or willie mays and the thing hank. Aaron played his career in the shadows of willie mays and mickey mantle mays in particular because they're both in the national league came up three years before hank aaron by the way only four years and hank aaron seven years after jackie robinson was the first black player in the major leagues till nineteen forty seven. The white power structure kept black. People out of baseball. Jackie robinson broke in nineteen forty seven seven years later the four years later he comes willie mays and seven years later three years after. May's here comes. Hank aaron but willie mays was the guy. It's not unlike when when nine hundred sixty one roger maris and mickey mantle where both chasing babe ruth's single season home run record and people wanted mantle to break it because he looked like the heir apparent and when marriage broke it they almost got mad at him and i think hank aaron like people saw willie mays and willie mays was one of those guys. They said that might be the best baseball player of all time right. That guy was great but it wasn't a center. Fielder like mazey's right field. He wasn't quite as dynamic players. Willie mays never fifty home runs in a season willie. Mays was loomed larger in the public consciousness. And all hank. Aaron did with show up every year and hit forty five home runs so eventually but but like at when he plays in the shadow of willie mays and mickey mantle and and He wasn't ever considered like that's the best player in the game. One year. He won the mvp and eventually when he breaks the record. Though you have to understand that the the moment has there ever. Cal ripken broke lou. Gehrig's record a huge deal with pete. Rose broke ty cobb's hit record huge deal but the homerun means something different that is uniquely american symbol of power and success. You go to a business meeting. I hit home run right like everyone knows what that means and babe. Ruth was deci con in american sports. Unlike any other and hank aaron when he broke that record there's not been a record before or since in a history of american team sports that comes close to it so he's known as the homerun champ but he's become underrated almost as a result of that because everyone knows he didn't break the home run record because yet sixty or fifty home runs he just he was. He set a standard of excellence. Forty home runs every year practically for twenty three seasons. So it's like yeah. He's a homerun champ but he did it over time. It was like compilation compiler this as a home run shabby people. Miss the picture with with hank. Hank aaron if you took away every home run he ever hit is a first ballot hall of famer over three thousand. Hits with a great defensive. Right fielder. a great base runner. An excellent steeler clutch hitter at three sixty two and seventy four postseason appearances including slugging seven. Ten won gold gloves won the batting title twice lifetime. Total base leader by as ralph wiley pointed out twelve miles of cases. Over number two stan. Musial he's actually become underrated hank aaron just as a player. I have to tell you. The check out marvel studios wanda vision original series now streaming only on disney plus bob kendrick president of the negro leagues joins me. Now on the goodyear hotline. Hey bob let's go on. Hey man it's a pleasure. Thanks for having me on show for coming on. you know. It's funny because there so many great negro league players through the years and it's impossible to know like is that i guess i would guess that josh gibson's probably the greatest catcher of all time considering roy campanella who was every bit as good as yogi berra. Johnny bench said everything he could do. Josh gibson could do better in the negro leagues. So i'm willing to think he's an oscar charleston. According to bill. James and some others is way up there with center fielder willie mays mickey mantle ty cobb charleston's with those guys put in hank aaron's case not by a lot of years because he breaks in and fifty four in the color line was broken in forty seven and hank's avarice case. We don't have to guess we know he's the greatest lifetime home run hitter of all time. What can you tell me about hank. Aaron and i think your perspective is what. I try to get people to understand when they come and visit the negro leagues baseball museum. Because if we saw henry aaron's numbers thirty years from now somebody wouldn't believe that they would have never believed it. And it's the same way with john gibson and when we tell people that he was so prestigious. It's power and that kind of thing they don't believe it. But here's this kid from mobile alabama who comes to the indianapolis clowns max when he was eighteen years old. He's a skinny cross handed hitting shortstop. Yeah by the way. I want everyone to hear what what what bob kendrick. The president of the negro leagues baseball museum. Right now is saying cross-handed hank aaron think about if you're a right handed hitter your right. Hand is on top of your left hand on the bat. Hank aaron criss cross. That came with his left hand on top of his right hand actually hit that. Yeah not only web you know in the field is that you break wrist hitting in that manner. Well henry aaron is mocking the cover off the baseball in a highly an orthodox fashion when he gets to the clowns. They quit right hand on top the indianapolis clowns they get they put right here on top and the rest of we say is history but for me here at the naval museum. I walk to a photograph of him. Standing at the train station and mobile alabama. He's eighteen years old about embark on that journey to go join the indianapolis clowns and all he has is a duffel bag and he told me he says. Bob inside is bad may have had to change clothes. A dollar fifty cents in my pocket and a ham sandwich that my momma had made me going to go chase that drink and when he was leaving mobile max he didn't know if he was leaving to go play with kids his own age or grown men. But as you well know he was going to go play with grown men and those men of the indianapolis clowns took him under their wing and they nurtured him and then henry and was shortly there after. Leave to go. Join the boston braves. Who would become the walkie braves. Who has we all well know became the atlanta braves. And he'll go down in his game one of his all time greatest players but as i heard you kind of rolling off at me of his great accomplishments as baseball player because you could never reduce him to just being a home run hitter. The homerun just kind of happened. Seven fit five. Good just kind of happen. You know we're hitting the league fifty eight one year. He won gold gloves. He stole thirty bases any year. He stole over two hundred forty basis. Better two three two one the success to court ratio. He what he had three sixty two in the playoffs. I mean this dude. And he did his mac and i tell people all the time. You can't underestimate what is meant. He's did is carrying a race of people on his shoulder. You see all those other players who transitioned from the negro leagues into the major league. They felt that weight. They knew they had to be probably want to ask you about that. Actually curious about this as you're as you're talking about it now i imagined you know. Clubhouse is what they are human nature what it is in the negro leagues you mentioned. They nurtured him. The clowns nurtured him. They they sent him on his way. And i'm sure in many respects for many of them. His success represented an ability to rise up to get out of segregation in a sense because the league grew segregated and to make it to the big time right in that sense african-american athletes particularly then had the responsibility. The weight of oven oppressed race on their on their doors. On the other hand i wonder human nature what it is in of the crabs in a bucket mentality. Were there ever. You're aware any older teammates. Who may have been jealous or or a kind of cranky about it. Because they never got the opportunity that hank aaron was gonna get you have professional jealousies in almost every aspect of of life but by and large these players were rooting for henry. Aaron willie mays to succeed so it really was like one of us is getting out and making and making good exactly right and so you know. They knew that they were beyond their prime that their time had passed and how important it was for these other players who did get the opportunity to succeed if anything they may have the meant it the fact that this didn't happen in their prime and so while yeah there were some who kind of wish old man. Why didn't this happen. Guys like ray dandridge who was thirty eight years old when it gets to the minneapolis millers which were the new york. Giants triple eighteen and maxi's names. Mvp of the millers man when he was thirty eight hundred right but he never had a chance of satchel paige satchel page was was forty six and he he had a array as as as i think he's mostly out of the bullpen but where was he was where where was satchel page at the age of forty six. He had an era in the threes at forty six years old. And and when he gets to the majors with cleveland in nineteen forty. Eight cleveland cleveland. Right four forty two. Yeah he's believed to be forty two at that. If you believe he was born in nineteen sixty absolutely do not believe and he posts egos six and one with a two point four at forty two of possibly do klis how good these guys would as always this skepticism as were saying like josh gibson may have been the greatest catcher of all time satchel page may have been the greatest pitcher. It's impossible to know was page better than sandy. Colfax was gibson better than berra or or johnny bench. Or someone like that but certainly there. They're on that level. But with hank aaron we do know this guy played twenty three seasons where he would hit the third or fourth in any lineup where he is a superb defender base runner high batting average forty plus homerun champ who hits the cover off the ball in the playoffs. Like that's what happened with with hank. Aaron and earlier. Today we've had guests on today here in on. I take earlier in the day. Who were talking about the kind of person. The kind of man hank aaron does and what he meant in the atlanta area. Can you tell me at all about that. 'cause i'm georgia. I grew up in crossville georgia small rural town east of a lot about eighty miles. East of atlanta. I am a life long. Atlanta braves fan. Henry aaron is my all time favorite player and my childhood idol. And so anytime that we were on the playground and you know how to go you on the playground you you become your favorite ballplayer so all. The kids knew that i was going to be here. There was no question about it. Like hey bob always got to be there. That's right. I got to do here. Riera nobody else to be here. And so i get the chance to leave him for the first time in nineteen ninety eight at the all star game and nineteen ninety nine. He makes his first visit to the baseball museum. Now mind you max. We've had american. Presidents visit this museum source. Ladies these united states general colin powell plethora athletes entertainers dignitaries entered with no disrespect to any of them. They're not henry air and then add kids from crawford deal george but you test them something. The humility the humanity that he brought a great the class the dignity in which even going through chasing roofs record this was a tumultuous time for this man family is in hiding. He's got bags and bag of lettuce. That were death threats on his life. And i can tell you this black man in the south at that time. You cannot take these threats. Ideally he'd already seen the king assassinate his john f. kennedy now. It's not just that this is the old days when racist white people could largely get away with until recently much more than they're able to get away with in recent times but considering the time the tar this is. This is not that far removed from a spate. political assassinations. no no and so. This is nineteen seventy four twenty seven years after jackie robinson breaking baseball's color barrier henry. Aaron is enduring the same kind of hatred and vitriol that welcome jackie robinson into the major leagues and yet somehow or another. He found a wherewithal to stay locked in and focus on the crap that hand and we'll themselves get home. Run record out of the way you know you was it meaningful to him like i. I imagine as i was talking earlier in the show. The homerun is uniquely american. Baseball's invented here and and america enjoyed a gemini at least in the western hemisphere for you know a lot of the last century and homerun. You know if you hit a home run in a presentation in a business. Everyone knows what hitting a home run means let alone you know kids. In highschool fooling around like homerun was a big deal in the consciousness of america especially in the twentieth century and for a black man to wrestle that record away from a white guy who also symbolized baseball babe. Ruth was the biggest symbol in the history of baseball What did that mean to hank. Aaron himself like that makes you dude. You're the home run champ of all time you know for the year. Nineteen ninety nine twenty five years after he breaks record man. It took him that long to exhale and celebrate. What many thought to be the most prestigious sports record of all time because it was so painful. And i know you can recall with mark mcgwire and sammy sosa. Had to epic home. Run chase and their children are dead at greet them at home plate. Here is families in hiding. You see what i'm saying real and so you didn't get to celebrate that it was released man that it was old. You know by the way. I didn't have any help. Those guys were inhaling juice. Hank aaron did it in one hundred eighty pounds. He hit those seven hundred and fifty. Five home runs seven fifteen past ruth. Sammy sosa mark mcgwire. I think one of those home runs. When they were rounding first base picked up the bass and took out their stash designing. Those guys will just out of their mouth like when people say now that that that barry bonds is the home run. I'd just honestly never think of him. That way. Always think of hank. Aaron when i think of the home run champ you think about the humility. That hanging demonstrated when barry broke the record. And i know that there was those who wanted him to say something disparaging about about berry and he was just never going to do it. He was never going to be that guy that was going to denigrate another black man no matter what others may have thought and i thought he handle that whole home. Run offense by. Barry was sucked grade class grace and dignity. But that's not a surprise in rare and distributed that all of his life. That was who henry aaron. What he what he sonal five class he really did. And for those putting that pressure on henry aaron to be that negative he was just never going to be and you couldn't help but admire that humility that he demonstrated you know doing that home. Run chase no matter what others may have thought. He refused to go there. Bob kendrick the president of the negro leagues baseball museum. Thank you so much for joining me today. On this sad day of hank aaron's passing one of the greatest baseball players of all time. The home run champ will all time home run champ but really a day also to celebrate his life and achievements. Of course thanks a lot for join me appreciate it is my pleasure. Thank you guys. For remembering i get a friend. Legendary hippie era meantime have now. It's always a hard turn. It's weird on the duma sports radio show and you're talking about hank aaron. On the day he passed away and all the sudden. I got to read you something. But i have to. That's how it goes. Conor mcgregor returns to the octagon tomorrow. Night in a rematch against dust. Emporia at ufc. Two fifty. Seven on espn plus. You have c. Two fifty seven is exclusively available to espn plus subscribers for sixty nine ninety nine visit. Espn plus dot com slash. Ppv lakers still undefeated on the road. Lose back to back. Ad said they're not trying to lose to back to back to beat the box. Have they even hit their stride yet. Though plus michael thompsons claes daddy. Memories of hank. Aaron coming up do you own or rent your home. Sure you do and i bet it can be hard work you know. It's easy bundling policies with geico. Geico makes it easy to bundle your homeowner's or renter's insurance along with your auto policy. It's a good thing too because you already have so much to do around your home. Go to geico dot com dennis quote and see how much you could save. Its gyco easy. Visit geico dot com today. That's geico dot com. Why at one. Sadness dan white once last thing you want running with elite qb's clutch td's then across nova step behind laughing because you danes with thirty east finger. Push does bruce lee showing no mercy. Fat file got the crew on deck. Lebeau knows no one knows goes deeper ones loud. Espn download now. The max kellerman. Show the podcast. Now we have the great michael thompson on the max kellerman show to share some thoughts on the late. Now at this point sadly great hank aaron baseball icon and in my view still the all time. Homerun champ michael are you there. Yes sir. I'm always looking for to talk to you to educate you on all all the sports factors backs michael. What are your thoughts Today when you heard of hank. Aaron's passing i like how you called him. The real home run leader. Listen i'm a big barry bonds. Fan a very special player. But there's a lot of question marks with his seven sixty two. Of course we all know the story about what barry's associated with babe ruth. I don't count anything that happened before. Nineteen forty seven before the integration of baseball as a legitimate sport legitimate records because no latinos asians blacks were allowed to play. So how can those records. It'd be counted They become a day. That was the case in sports. So all those records before. Jackie robinson asterisk but michael. How babe. Ruth's record hank. Aaron broke it not. Well sure if you want to. That's fine a lot of baseball. Historians would say still count even though blacks latinos nations. Were locked to play. So i don't see how that's a legitimate sport like that in any sport so but anyway hiker and a hiking in. What's the last player to be promoted from the negro leagues for the major leagues back door and has a thing of the biggest question. I have about hank. Aaron and his career max kellerman and listeners. After seventy seven hundred fifty five home runs three thousand seven. Three thousand seven and seventy one hits three thousand two hundred ninety eight games played and two thousand two hundred ninety seven total basis. Somebody or some bodies said that. He was not a hall of fame renaissance unanimous hall of fame. I not all michael just said even though it lake. Somebody needs to investigate that michael. What's crazy is hank. Aaron is the all time home. Run record leader. They you said there are question. Marks about barry. No question marks exclamation points to cheated mcgwire. Sosa those guys great first ballot hall of famer before we ever cheated so he should be in the hall of fame but get outta here. That home run record. Here's the thing about hank. Aaron all time home. Run record right if you took away every single home run ever hit. He's a first ballot hall of famer. The man still would have had over three thousand hits over thirty seven hundred fifty five hits anyway so if you took away every single homerun. He's a first down hall of famer but michael. He was also a multiple time batting champion. A multiple time gold glove winner stole thirty bases in a season stole over two hundred forty basis for his career. Rarely got caught. Hit three sixty two and seventy four playoff appearance at bats or plate appearances slugged seven ten all time total basis leader. Could you imagine that guy broke the most significant record in the history of american team sports at a time where there was nothing bigger than baseball or more symbolic than the home run. And you're a baseball writer. Yuko hank aaron not by my definition of a hall of famer roberto clementi and on and on the only unanimous Bari barrel actually long long. They're damn thing about it. You you mentioned all those fact. All those numbers by hank aaron but when you talk about the greatest players played the game this names mentioned. How's that possible. I think partly because it's like when roger marris broke the single season record held by ruth he had sixty one people wanted mantle to do it because he was the heir apparent. I think partly michael. It's because hank aaron's career largely overlapped with willie mays mays came up and fifty one. Aaron fifty four. They both played in the. Nfl maze with a center fielder. He hit fifty home runs a couple times. He has that iconic catch in the world series. And i think people wanted to be maze and when it wound up being hank aaron like aside from the obvious racism right but i think in baseball kind of in the baseball world. People may have been let down that it wasn't willie mays something like that. Yeah i think he might have been really played in the big market and new york city and doesn't sound cisco right hind played in milwaukee and atlanta. So maybe they ignored him down there in the south 'cause because he wasn't in the limelight as much as willie woods. Yeah and i think you're right though. I it's not easy to say. Anyone was better than hank. Aaron in terms of career value in other words. If you were drafting every player that ever lived and you said This is where like the or or kareem. Come in right in the goat conversation. If you were starting a franchise and you say. I just want to be really good every year for as long as possible. If you draft hank aaron for twenty three years i mean probably twenty of those twenty three years. You could hit third or fourth in any lineup in baseball. And he's gonna play great defense on top of the enron the basis and be a good clubhouse guy all those things. You have a case for hank aaron or no question about it and if you put when i put my time outfield together in baseball you know all teams my all time out. Feel in baseball and center Aaron and right and roberto clementi and left roberto clemente first of all play right field. That's number one and number two days not in the all time out. I mean. I love clemente not in the all time. Outfield creep browsing hits probably had the best arm and any outfielder in history the greatest latino player ever. Unless you wanna throw in albuquerque holes in the argument come on. He belongs out there. Guys like roberto clementi could play any outfield position. Teach mickey mantle spanish. Put them in left field in that case. Come on their better. Clemente clementi's on hank aaron and willie mays level clemente was great. But he's not a willie mays man he would have had more than three thousand hits that he wouldn't have been killed soon. Barry bonds in left field. Ricky henderson and left field stan. Musial in left field got some less than zero. All guys are good arguments. You right all right well there. It is do you have any. Do you have any recollection of. I'm forty seven. So i was born a year before the home run record fell. Do you have a recollection of where you were. Whether you aware of hank. Aaron breaking the record like as it happened. Oh yeah no question about it. I was in high school in florida and You know spend a lotta time down there watching the home run record tiger and doing the record chase really. I was in college and seventy five. So obviously we didn't have max kellerman show covering the like we do now or or social media or espn twenty four hour coverage but Every day you would pick up a newspaper and see if he won last night. The watch the countdown toward seven. Fifteen the illegitimate record but Yeah so Yeah we definitely will keep track of Hangs progress. He got closer and closer to seven fifteen seven fourteen. They'll never be another record and there never was since and never before. That meant more than the all time home. Run record in this country. And hank aaron a black man did it. And he wasn't supposed to do it even and he did it at time throughout most of the fifties and sixties when he was compiling the home runs and then finally in seventy four where there was so much anger toward him because of it. It was a remarkable achievement. Michael the best. I've heard about this. And then roger tell me. I have to let you go. Is he had twelve miles more of total basis than the number. Two guy. stan musial stan. Musial played for a million years and was one of the greatest of all time hank. Aaron had more than twelve miles more of total basis than the number two guy. There actually is a good argument. He's the best to ever played the great thing about it hikes not some huge slugger. He's like the only way like hundred seven hundred ninety pounds. Yeah little bit. Bigger than mookie betts and he did all this hundred eighty pounds. I weighed one hundred pounds fifteen pounds ago before the pandemic i was checking in around one eighty nine ninety five home runs seven hundred fifty five the great michael thompson. Ladies and gentlemen we are gonna talk. Lakers coming up max kellerman show on. Espn radio presented by progressive insurance. You could save big when you bundle your auto home motorcycle. Rv or visit progressive dot com. Okay can't forget championships. Sent sunday coming up. Who i got going to the super bowl. You got the max kellerman. Show the podcast. You heard i take your voice out here throwing down here max's last so as i'm trying to do this terrific radio show entertaining informative raj gets in my ear and says hey when you're interviewing bob kendrick the president of the negro leagues museum. You never reset them. You never reset like you have to say on radio. Hey who you're talking to. I thought was bob from georgia. I did reset him. I said i heard brandon get in my ear and say reset and i said bob kendrick president of the negro leagues museum and bring in. Well let's bring in you guys keeping record here on jeans. I believe was keeping track of all this. So on the intro. Do we have an interesting right. So here's here's a max. Okay bob kendrick president of the negro leagues me now hotline. Hey bob what's going on. That's pretty good max. That's pretty good. That's pretty safe release museum actually other negro leagues going on all right. I'm going to be the first white player in the negro leagues raj. Who are so. They're max's you reset three times. Can we go to the second reset. One was the second. Can't place. So i mean not. In the first one was the intro. Here's the first reset and it was a minute and twenty two seconds later. Look at it by the way. I want everyone to hear what what bob kendrick. The president of the negro leagues baseball museum. Right now saying cross-handed okay. I little early a let me just tell you. I was responding to brandon. Now my ear saying someone told me to resent. So that's why maxine. He did it three times. so james. how long did it take for the third reset the happen right so this was kind of one and happened two and a half minutes after the second. One probably wanna wanna ask you about that. Actually we call him bob so it was like half so that could be barred from arizona's doesn't count as a reset does not count reset. I'm so senses proper reset. which second. How long did it take to get to the third reset. Eleven minutes and forty seconds from from mike the president of the negro leagues baseball museum. Thank you so much for joining me today. Amac dry. I can drive from here to bristol in eleven. Let me explain something. That wasn't good by all while you are all bogged down in resetting which applies to many. I was having a fascinating conversation full of information and entertainment. You don't worry about resetting. I worry about the content. If i don't in ten minutes ago. I don't think you're talking to bother jumped in at any point. You think this is interesting. I want to hear more of this. Give me a super bowl. Pick real quick. Let me just tell you what that counts. As a counts as one reset. One reason i said i said his name three times but i reset once reset once in a second but i said i said his name three times throughout kings money super bowl pick the the kansas city chiefs are going to beat the buffalo bills. With mahomes will be playing. He pla- he passed a concussion protocol earlier today about an hour ago and they will be playing the green bay packers as much trouble as the tampa bay. Defence gave the packers the first time they played and they whooped up on them. Good at tampa. I think that part of that was because davante adams was his first game back after injury and rogers was forcing the issue. Antonio brown won't be available for tampa gilbey at green bay. I think it all adds up to aaron rodgers. Winning that game is packers and chiefs in the super bowl. Thanks for listening to the max kellerman show make sure you subscribe rate and review. You can hear the show. Live weekdays at two pm eastern on. Espn radio espn news. Or wherever you straighten your audience.

hank aaron baseball willie mays hank Aaron max kellerman bob kendrick jackie robinson mickey mantle henry aaron josh gibson atlanta braves indianapolis ty cobb bay route mickey mantle mays mazey football ralph wiley
Standard is the Standard: Who is the most overrated Steelers player on the 2020 roster?

Behind the Steel Curtain

54:21 min | 1 year ago

Standard is the Standard: Who is the most overrated Steelers player on the 2020 roster?

"Pittsburgh steeler FANS. What is going on? This is Jeff Hartmann editor of behind the steel curtain dot com with you for another episode of the flagship podcasts. That's right BTS's running podcast. The Standard is a standard joining me. As always this guy over here that's Lance Williams on the west coast is up lands Harry tonight. I'm doing our right an Afro on my mic. And I can't see over it like Shannon. I just noticed that. Because he you're sure did they. Kind of blends in. Yeah put an Afro on my mic. it was like the pop stopper to kind of clean up the sound and so the. I got raise the level of my chair. I gotTa Fro- I cut. My hair is able to cut my hair last week by myself. Also my fro is a nice little bit lower so big you know yes someone someone that obviously cuts his own hair on a weekly basis I you know the state of Maryland reside in where Dave Scofield and Brian. Anthony Davis resigned on Friday at five PM Places like barber shops and Harris. Lawns are going to be reopening. I just WanNa know are people sitting on the phone. They waiting five o'clock this speed out but My wife made an appointment to a salon And 'cause they're opening in California's well but they're limiting. The number of people can get an appointment so I think they're doing two or three people at a time so not much but the but the but because of that the appointments are spaced way out so like the first appointment she could get was like in July. Because they're doing so few bookings but I figured you'd be golfing this weekend. I've already been out. Hit the ball. My my son and I are GONNA play tomorrow. I think we're going to go out and get get around in maybe in the early afternoon via Beautiful Day so Things are slowly starting to come back. Here's how here's the funny. Here's the irony of right since they they've open golf courses near. I live near course around the corner. It's rain for times the a Kim. Yeah can be tough tough. Got a all right well. Let's get this show on the road. Let's talk about the headliner by the way. We're a little bit early for those watching live on youtube but you know what when the time strikes we gotta go and I know a lot of people have messaged me left comments on our youtube channel stating the. I wish I knew that the time I wish I knew the time to. But you know what sometimes lands sends me a text in says. Hey can you go early? Sometimes I'm sending him attack saying hey it's going to be a little bit. Later life happens it is crowded commit. Let's let's try to. We're GONNA commit live right now. We took in five thirty right at five thirty West Coast East Coast. Eight thirty obviously So yeah I mean that's what we shoot for life today. You go shoot for five thirty if we're late listeners. Just be mad at Jeff because it's probably a chef as to why we're not starting at five thirty. There's there's look put it this way. Put a number on at least ninety nine percent chance that it's my fault so we're not need online. Maybe my children but eventually come. He blames okay so we were going to talk about like some traffic stuff and do all that the nighttime talking yeah. Let's let's go a different avenue. That's what the flagship typically does Kind of going in a different way. Let's go with something that Lance on twitter the other day and it was a list of okay for your favorite football team. In this case the Pittsburgh steelers who's like the most overrated player in we had a long list and lands. Has that list in front of them? Why don't you go ahead and let's run these down and then if you're watching live in the in the in the live chat letters what you think before jumping through the list two things. I want to give a big shoutout to my favorite artists musical artist of all time when to give a big shout out to Stevie wonder celebrating his seventieth. Birthday also WANNA give a big shot out to Nick Fair Abou- at Fair Abou- F. B. on twitter. Who came up with the list of questions so I reached out to him and let them know that. We're we'RE GONNA use his questions as a topic for the podcast and so he just wanted me to give him a shout-out so again. Big Up big shot out to nick. Fair Abou- hopefully I'm pronouncing it right or could be fair ball like Sammy. Harbaugh harbaugh so at Dara Bach F. B. on twitter so big up to him so here are the list. Jeff will jump into these so the list is most overrated most underrated best player key addition key new addition Could surprise a player. That takes a leap in a player that has to prove it this year. So I'm a kick the ball to you. Jeff who is the most overrated and this can be on either side of the ball. Who's the most you can throw in coaches to do you can you? Who's the most overrated steeler player? Now when I think of rated I'm thinking of a player that is height to be something that they are not and this is this is GonNa hurt. It's GonNa hurt me to say it if a lot of people and a lot of people up someone's already said in the live chat months ago Juju Smith Schuster. Both I know I know I know I know but to me. I'm not sure if he is that genuine article number one wide receiver. But he wants to be hype like that and I looked at his production early in his career as a product of Mr third and fifth being opposite him. He has every chance this season to prove me wrong but at the same time. I gotta be honest. That's where my mind went every chance to prove you right. True the flip side of that area eat green. You agree with me or use someone else. I have someone else and I had to go to over the cap to solidify my point. Even further Elvin Bud depre- is the most overrated guy on the steelers. There is no way on God's Green Earth. You could convince me that. But depre- is worth fifteen point eight million dollars now if you were to say Tj Watt. I would say he's underpaid but there's no way in the world give him bud to pre production over the course of his career with the Pittsburgh steelers that he is worth that much money and I just want to further solidify the point by pulling up some of Bud depre- career stats now. But the pre by no means L. Bus depot but depre- is by no means you know below average but by no means is bud to pre worth fifteen point eight million dollars in five seasons with the Pittsburgh steelers. Jeff How many do think Alvin? Bud Debris has in his entire career Entire career with the Pittsburgh steelers eleven half last year. I think he had say twenty. Two all you think he's overrated to if it's only twenty to thirty one point five thirty one over an injury and a third of those was last year so the most overrated player on the Pittsburgh steelers Alvin but to preview. Have an honorable mention for a player. Who's most overrated? Yeah I'm going go Another offense if player believe it or not I'M GONNA go with Mr Alejandro Villanueva You know people. In the live chat of said a lot about marquees pounds being overrated to me Marquees. Pouncey has done enough in his career in the waning years of his career. I think that he absolutely could be still. I don't think he's overrated. He is what he is right now. But I don't think it's overrated Alejandro Villanueva. At one point was a pro bowler and I'm not saying that he's bad. I just think that especially when you look at pay. He got that big payday for years ago. Is that what you're getting if we're GONNA look at that type of analytic? I think that he would What about you? That's a good name in I? I agree 'cause I brought up pouncey. And I like the way you explained away pouncey being overrated at one point in time I mean pouncey was voted the all decade center in the National Football League. I think at one point in time Marquees Pouncey was the premier center in football. I think pouncey now is not because he's not playing at the level that he used to which was at an all world level. But I don't think Andrew Villa Alejandro Villanueva has ever reached that and for a number of eight point. Three million dollars that's that's pretty hefty. And and when you look at that number he may even supplant but depre- but I think he is definitely ABS- absolutely In the running for the most overrated player on the Pittsburgh steelers. Let me jump into the next category. And I'll let you lead this off. We'll go with you. Jeff Jefferson. Meow introduced to you. Most underrated player on the Pittsburgh. Steelers underrated underrated. That's a tough one is what I'm going to have to go and I I. The reason I'm hesitating is ahead an aim in mind. I'M GONNA go with it. It's on the offense. Aside the ball soccer listen for a long time identified. Lean on the inside. This person's got a lot of pub in the off season but I still think he's extremely under ads. Matt filer. I think mad filer is one of the most underrated players on the team in terms of position. Versatility doesn't cost a lot of money yet. Anyway right and at the the same time he was the if you like pro. Football focus highest graded off of line for the steelers in twenty nineteen so combine. All three of those things. And I'm thinking to myself. That's that's he's underrated but a lot of people might say well he was the PF best player on the offensive line. That wouldn't equate to being underrated. That's who I'm with. You may disagree. But that's what I have you. I think that's a solid pick. I'm going to defensive side and no surprise when the defense science weird how that worked out. I'M GONNA go with Steven Nelson. I think Steven Nelson is the most underrated player. Because when I look at the steelers defense and I look at the top three top four players on that defense I think Steven Nelson is right in there with the best players on that defense if I were to Rattled off the best players on defense. I think it's what I think it's hayward I think it's Steven Nelson and It's make if it's Patrick. I think those are the best players on the steelers defense but when you look at cornerback contracts and I'm trying to pull up the cornerback. Contracts here but it's moving pretty slowly for the amount Steven Nelson is getting paid in four. The numbers he put up as a corner that were comparable to Stephon. Gilmore's numbers He is absolutely underrated when you look at performance and you look at his ability on the football field. Heals your honorable mention for underrated These were tough because tend to put these players on pedestals that I think if you look at last season I might go. James Washington was underrated. You actually led the team in receiving yards. Most people don't think that everybody did. I felt that he made a step forward with no real quarterback and so- underrated to the entire team. That might be a stretch but I think in terms of value that he brings. I think he does bring value. There's a lot of people that are already writing him off saying Klay pools going to push him off the roster which is nonsense in its of itself. I think James Washington might be on my list for underrated. That's just me in terms of Steven Nelson when I was talking about his salary Stephen I mean Joe. Haden averages eleven million dollars per year and has contracts to find Gilmore averages thirteen million in the most expensive corner and football is Darius slay and he averages sixteen point six million per year and I would bet if we look at pro football focus that Steven Nelson might have a great as high as any of those players. And so that's why putting Steven Nelson as my most underrated. Let's go to best player. Who's the best player on the Pittsburgh? Steelers that's tough on. I could go on a bunch of different ways and oh I'm GONNA go. Tj I'M GONNA go T. J. Watt as the best player. I think when you get where he was drafted pedigree the tail end of the first round I think TJ WAD has proven time and time again year after year. He comes he's better and I just don't think the dad defense is is intimidating is daunting without him on the field rushing. And that's I know where you could go outside defense and you might be going there. You go in there. The other player that we're thinking of. I think I'M GONNA go there battle there. I think I'M GONNA go with minkah. Fitzpatrick is the best player. That's that's one and one B is it not either way and he only going with Minka because the immediate impact of Minkah Fitzpatrick when he was injected into that steeler defense was immediately felt that defense changed and became an elite unit when they injected me. If it's Patrick. And and and they injected a Minka fitzpatrick that never played in the defense and had an impact that much. I mean this was a guy that never played. The defense was not familiar with the playbook or the players or this game or anything And he immediately had that impact and that defense went to a turnover machine it changed and it became The modern version of the steel curtain. I see people on there saying Ben Rothlisberger is still the best player on the Pittsburgh. Steelers can you see that can? Is it still? Can you say that? Even though he was injured I have to see more than one throw. Let's be honest man. We are all every single podcast. Every single writer not just behind the curtain every single show. Every single article is basing this off of one throw NERF ball too or was it a nerd but every no one now the steelers get Kevin Colbert was on Mark Madden one and five nine. The accident said he really liked where he wasn't rehab. I don't know if they've seen anything video. No one else has actually seen him throw football so until I see him be able to throw that long out pattern. Hit The post shoulder. All those tough throws in the NFL. The quarterback has had the ornament until I see that. I can't say that that's in. I'm a huge Ben. Rothlisberger Fans Seven Been Jersey. I have not onsite vets. Still gotta get seven. You GotTa have seven zero a color or you have a color. An I need to get a throwback block number seven. That's where you have to find day one of those sites and find A. He has argued Brian. Three with me though right. You can't put him there not not right now you know in a throw. I WanNa see I wanNA see him. Throw it in congested pocket. When he's getting contacted and he still has to whistle a ball in in money pocket. Like is what I want to see. You know I Kinda WanNa see like like a boxer like I don't know how good a boxer is until he gets punched in the face you know. How's he gonNA respond when he gets deigned? I WANNA see being deemed. Get up and see what happens in throw and make those tight window throws pressure situation. When the pocket is money he'll be able to hit the clean. Slant right he'll be able to hit the clean post route would clean pocket. I WANNA see those tough throws in what happens In Dave Shipley has said as he even shaved. I doubt he shave her legs out. He shaved the live. Chat is rocking and rolling. Her lumpy will agree and disagree with us But let me jump to the next one Yogi new Keanu addition. Who's the most key new addition that could be a rookie draft pick? That could be a veteran free agent acquisition most key acquisition. I WANNA say Derek. Watch just to make you mad but I'm not going to. I'M NOT GONNA I'M GONNA go with Iraqi run because if you look at the current and this is something that I think. I talked Brian. Anthony Davis on Sunday Mother's Day. You already took the show off and I got him to join me for the homer in the hater show we talked about how virtual O. T. as is going to impact players and we both agree. Either with the rookies. It's GONNA be tough. It's GonNa be really difficult especially I was talking about. How players that rely on others are going to be even more hamstrung than I used a alice. Hi Smith as an example. He's a pass rusher. It's him versus the offensive tackle tight end. He's going to be able to get acclimated more than chase. Klay pool because chase grape was gonna have to try to find a rhythm with a quarterback. He's never caught a pass. Ron And who knows weddings? Nba To catch a pass from him so he might know the routes he might know the playbook but until he and Ben Rothlisberger get a few. Were Okay when we run this post pattern. Hey He tends to do this more than that. It's just part of the the relationships that the receiver recap even build trust to. They're going to build trust to all right so I think the free agents that they picked up have a much better chance to be bigger parts of the team in twenty twenty in Hebron. He's been around long enough and he played for. Detroit was drafted by them then. Went to the colts and played for them so he has. He's been in multiple systems. He's seen a lot. He's going to be able to pick up the playbook relatively easy but he's going to be that threat if he can stay healthy. The Red Zone option that the feelers have been longing to find at the tight end position. Hey everyone this is. Cara Swisher editor at large code and I'm Scott Galloway professor of nyu Stern School of business. We host the twice-weekly pivot podcast. Where you break down all the news in Tech Media and business and anything else that we fancy. We want to talk about the news. Moving faster than ever. And we're here to bring some analysis context sanity and occasional levity. Yeah there's a lot of sanity around here anyways to the covert Nineteen News Economy Keira right. Listen Scott Listen. We don't want to bring levity to cope in nineteen. We think it's a very serious crisis. We want to give people insight and other ways to cope with cove nineteen. We've had lots of ways to talk about it whether it's through the automated relationships and we talk about how tech is being used to track data and health and location the privacy risks of living out our lives and platforms like zoom which can be a little dangerous how streaming platforms like. Netflix will excel or fail without sports broadcasting and how this moment is changing the relation between labor force and major companies like Amazon. We cover the entire landscape of we also bring on great guests ranging from Robert Rice to astaire parallel to got us to the economy and how covert is changing our relationships. How is our relationship changing? Scott I think you know it's getting stronger. I think you're finally touches your emotions. Let's be honest. I am the future ex Mrs Swisher. Yeah AFTER SEAN. Hannity got puts it over nineteen has been the great accelerator for companies the economy and public policy. Stay on top of it all by listening to pivot with Cara Swisher and Scott Gallery. Every Tuesday and Friday. Subscribe on Apple podcasts. Or wherever you listen to podcasts. Since he's retired but probably since luxurious green was brought in the Darius Green was supposed to be that guy and he at hurt in the concussions and we all know how that played out. And I don't WanNa bring his name up with Iran but that's the type of person that I expect similar skill set. I think Lebron's more athletic but I think he's the most important acquisition for this team. I'm just looking at the live chat while you talk man. Jeff when you say something bad about Big Big Man. It gets wild in the live chat. It goes down in the live chat. When you say something about Big Ben. They are just hat in chat that we rip big. Ben I'M GONNA go to opposite rally the first time. Go with the offense side of the ball. I'M GONNA go with Stephen was new ski. I think is the best key acquisition because I think it's solidifies the offensive line. You don't have to create two new positions to new positional starters. One AT THE LEFT GUARD POSITION. One at the right tackle position assuming they would move filer inside to be that. Gar and I just love slotting in a left guard that's been on to. I think two consecutive super bowl winning teams Kansas City in Philadelphia. A guide that's veteran played in big situations playoff moments and play very. Well I look at every snap that he played in. Kansas City's run and he played very well. And I think he slots fits right in perfectly with that offensive line and I think with Ben. Coming BACK WITH INJURY. I mean you want a guy that's really good in terms of interior pass rush pass protection you want to to secure that safety blanket for Ben Rothlisberger particularly with gut pressure. So I'm GONNA go with. News is there anybody else you think about. I mean I think pool has the opportunity to be a difference maker for the offense even if all he can do is a straight line. Take the top off of a defense. I if he's the threat think back to when Martavis Bryant which a lot of people wanNA compare the two and we talked about the measurable 's if he can just take the top off defense and when Martinez. Brian was a rookie. He didn't play his for six games when he came on. He come on quick and he was just that deep he was just a good go stray. Just keep running and defense are going to have to account for you. He's big enough. He's strong enough. That if he can get the playbook in a little bit of cohesiveness with Rothlisberger he can definitely be a difference maker for this offense. I I I wrote an article about how an NFL offense coordinator said quote unquote this on ESPN. Plus he was the perfect madge for what this team needs. The steelers offense and so if he can get acclimated and he can maybe take that safety to shade a little bit his side that Juju Smith Schuster common made at the beginning of the show could be null and void because he could see more one on one coverage less bracketed coverage Anakin. Open them up. That's I'M GONNA go with Klay poll because wiz. I don't want to disagree. That's great pet but I've had to go somewhere else I clip. It's GonNa be interesting before we get into the next topic Or the next category. How the coaches approach? Because I was reading an article washed. Shared it with you guys. I don't know if you guys read it about Cam Hair was talking about his experience as a rookie. In at that point in time I believe there was a player strike or some sort and the coaching staff. The NFL forbid coaching staffs with even sharing the playbook with players and he said when he came in he didn't know anything he didn't know one single play verbiage no calls nothing he was completely lost and didn't know anything and subsequently. I think that impact his ability to star he didn't start one game for the first two seasons. A lot of fans were down on him but I think they minimize the impact of just how much not being able to practice in. See The physical speed in the physical the physical nature of the game. And do all those things that you get from a training camp. I think it's GonNa be imperative for coaches to dumb it down as much as possible in really identify. What guys do well to put them? In a position to succeed I would think it would be a mistake to give these guys too much too soon because then it becomes you know you're in your head you can't play fast. I mean what's your thoughts on that? Yeah like I said I in a position like wide receiver where the the knowledge and the repetitions that are necessary between a quarterback receiver. Everyone thinks Oh. Yeah slants slant no? It's not guaranteed. Yes Ben Rothlisberger Halley Antonio Brown ranchland how Juju runs this land. And how hines Ward Ran Aslan back in the day they were all three completely different one might have gone to up in one might have gone three or four. It's all about timing repetition. So that's why if we're going to try to find a silver lining in this cloud. The fact that this dealers did not have a ton of draft capital in the cloud of cove in nineteen happens in it impairs preparation. It's not the end of the world that the steelers have that draft class where expecting all these players to start as rookies and contribute because teams. That are like that. They might struggle the they're going to be bad. So the next category. Who TAKES THE BIGGEST LEAP? Who TAKES THAT LEAP? That Tomlin talks about You when you when young players become the guys who takes that biggest leap and it doesn't have to be necessarily a young guy it could be a vet at you know seven six seven years guide emerges. It becomes a superstar. I mean he takes that in. I want or is it. He'll do. I actually think who. Who Do you actually think takes that leap? We'll tax relief. I think a leap is going to be Devon Butch inside linebacker Going into second year. He played enough in his rookie year. He's asked he's athletic. You started to see glimpses in the second half two thousand nineteen of the reason why they moved up ten spots to get him. He was very very fast sideline to sideline he was instinctive. He did have some issues in coverage which you point out all the time and I don't disagree with you now. The guy that I want to break out is maybe who you're going to say. I don't think you're GONNA say him to him. I know who I think you want to break out. Well who do you think I think you want Edmonds TO BREAKOUT YOU S. Please please played better than what you have reliable. Yes he's all steady. Yeah I want some playmaking now that you have here laugh Branka Johnson. I'm going offense again. I think deontay Johnson takes a leap the best wide receiver on the steelers in twenty twenty. I think he supplants Juju as the best wide receiver on the steelers and becomes the number one receiver in becomes that guy. And the reason I say that and the reason I say that and the reason I say that is I challenged people to go back and watch film of Him Against Buffalo when What was it? Troy Davis White is at the corner. Today is white. Watch him get off against white he had a very good game against your Davies. White had a good quarterback by the name of Been Raffles Plate. Burger played in that game. He Tears Davis white up his get off and his ability to get in and out of his routes in his cuts in breaks against your Davies route. Today's White was really impressive. And I think the Johnson obviously would have been better had been played last year. But I think he's on the cusp of being a really good player. Not Super Athletic in terms of Blazey speed. But I love the way he gets. Off The line of scrimmage gets into his routes I think he's going to take that next jump and I think he's going to be the guy to be the best wide receiver for the steelers next year. Me Ask you this. You Watch a lot of film. The San Francisco game faceless. Man said this in the live chat. He said Deontay Richard Sherman on skates. Now that was also I'm GonNa that is that would be a match up to watch and I remembered Yantai Johnson after the game saying how crazy was to just be to see Richard Sherman across from him. Because that's a guy that he probably grew up watching and and it's a very recognizable face in the NFL. Richard Sherman. But I'd love to see how it didn't match Belva Guy. It's very physical you know. It's going to be 'cause rich. I mean rich rich has to put his hands on you. Rich can't put his hands on you you know he's in trouble enrich is going to be a first ballot hall of Famer actually John Brennan Seattle a few years ago. Lit a Yes. Yes he did. I mean which is GonNa be a hall of Famer so yeah and so and so people in live chatter finally. Give me some crops. Yes I think deontay Johnson is going to be the guy to take the big jump. Who would be your honorable mention in terms of a player? That's going to take that leap. Then he's now the big jump. Big Jump I I'll go with that would go the Edmonton's because I do think that he has the athletic prowl us to be a playmaker. Maybe it's the confidence to go break on that ball. Maybe it's just repetitions. He's got a ton of repetitions. I don't know what else he would need he. He's hardly missed anytime since being drafted in the first round. I'm GONNA go that. Here's your honorable mention. It'd be interesting to see how great it out I mean. He's graded out on a game by game basis and you wonder like with his athletic bill. You would think you could be a better playmaker it. Maybe he's being asked to do what he's being asked and they like it. It's interesting I mean I wonder with. Tomlin would say about him in a private moment. I might might take. The League would be Devon Bush. I missed a category. So I'M GONNA go back to it. Who could surprise this year? For the Pittsburgh steelers Pittsburgh steeler player could surprise you. This year surprise player. This may sound crazy. I would be shocked if I see. But depre- get double digits again in terms of sex crimes were I'm not expecting but depre- to have a year. He had last year. I hope he does. I hope he proves me wrong. But a surprise for me would be to Priya's out in shows out again and because of that there you go. You're looking at. He's getting a big payday in free agency. Probably not with the steelers. If I don't WanNa go that route and other surprise be steph onto it staying healthy while while now gene von Hargrave boys at important and now it'd be a shock because he hasn't done it often but that's just that's just me so those would be to come to mind for me. The two for me one would be Ulysses Gilbert he lists s grant as I call him he he the way. They're reluctant or not reluctance. Not Getting an inside linebacker in the draft or free agency to me says they have a lot of confidence in what he could become when you watch him on film in the few amount of snaps that he plays his athletic ability absolutely jumps off to fill it. People might think of this as hyperbole. He's more athletic than Devon Bush. He's not better than Devin Bush but he's more athletic than Devin Bush. He's even twitch year in faster and more sutton then Devon Bush There was a couple of plays where he's outside. The numbers playing impress technique and stopping slant routes against Tampa Bay buccaneers. I mean the way he drives on the slant inside slams like a corner athletically. He is off the charts if he can take if he could surprise that defense in its interior if he can get Vince Williams on the bench and he plays up package football with Devon Bush. That might be the fastest linebacker combination in the history of the National Football League. And I hate to use hyperbole but that would be needed. That would be the first time you had to inside linebackers that were sut like four four guys and I think I think Gilbert even sub for four or hi four threes and you have to four four guys at inside linebacker. That's not so that's that's nut so in your defense and so I think he's a guy that could surprise so let me jump into the last category who is absolutely inappropriate year. Who has to prove it this year? I'm going to go on offense and I'M GONNA go James Connor because we've all written them off. If not all the vast majority off as an injury prone player they seem to have forgotten lances writing a off right now as I speak they. They seem to have forgotten about the pro bowl year in two thousand eighteen where he was very dynamic accent until what? The high ankle sprain against the chargers in that knocked him out for a few games. He isn't improve year into me. I don't think you can talk about debris being a franchise tag guy. That's not a bad answer. But my gosh if connor doesn't prove it this year who knows what is your holds. I mean the steelers might keep him for cheap but my gosh this is a proven year for him not just for Pittsburgh for his. Nfl career so James Connors my pig James. Connor is is compensatory. Pick compensation the that's James. Connor is he can prove it to the steelers so they can get a good cop change connor but but but I think that's a solid pick. James Carter will not be as dealer. He's going to have to prove it for his next contract for somebody else in the league. I got a couple of good numbers but the live chat changed my my opinion. I was GONNA say Benny Snail. Because you know when you bring in McFarland there has to be an odd person out that made me think of Jalen Samuel Well Samuel has to prove it. Somebody has to be there. I was thinking. Chuck's core for and I chuck has to give better. Juju has to prove it. Honestly your boy has to prove it. Number seven has to prove it been asked to prove. Oh big. Ben. Isn't approve it year. Big Ben is improving year. So Ryan Kellerman correct me. He said You g three Ram four four six and Devin. Bush ran four four three deaths fast on the interior defense. A lot of speed a lot of speed and there have been isn't approve it year. Business approve year. Because I I know bid has is the Teflon Don when it comes to the Pittsburgh steelers and we said that Ben. Rothlisberger is the most powerful man outside of the Rooney family in the steeler organization but man if you suck next year with a forty one million dollars cap charge in twenty twenty one man care how Teflon you are. They might be telling you kick rocks. Baby I mean He. He's got to go out and he can't suck next year. Like what a forty one million dollar cap charge. You don't have room to suck you have to go out and beat the man you got to be the guy that they think you are before you got hurt. You have to be that guy you may have to be even more so forty one point two five billion dollar captured. I've never seen a cap charge. That high in that year in two thousand twenty one the difference between him and Joe Haden in terms of cap space or cap number is twenty six million dollars. That's a quarterback so the difference between those. Those players is a quarterback. He's going to have to prove it in ball out because at that number there is a scarlet be on his sweater and if he does Iraq out. I don't know I don't dare. I Dare I say I don't want to say there could be been could get called to the office Benjamin. I don't know if we're going to be able to do this. We've been right by you You know we're going to have to move forward with this so I'm thinking is Ben isn't approval year. I'm not disagreeing with you and the thing that I don't think the Dan is this type of player or teammate. At least not now at this stage in his career but he has got the organization by the balls right now by short in a children earmuffs. I'm sorry for saying that. But he really does. I mean they didn't draft a quarterback. You saw what? Mason Rudolph Devon. Hodges did last year a you WanNa cut me. I'll take as read over and says in the live chat. I'll take my twenty two million in. I will coast off into retirement. And hey good luck by the way with Mason. Rudolph Devlin Hodges Paxton Lynch J. T. Barrett as your quarterback in twenty twenty one. The steelers need him a him and he knows they need them. And so it's I don't think you ever be that type of guy. At least I hope not as a fan of his to be able to say you know man screen you all you all need me. Man. I don't know you guys I mean I don't know like Jeff is younger than me so I don't think jeff grew up with the Jeffersons. You ever watch the Jeffersons. Not Ella Bunch panay talking about you. Don't I mean if you guys can remember the George Jefferson Walk when George? Jefferson used to walk through the robe that George Jefferson Stroll Shellman Hemsley and like read over hand. If he leaves he leaves you with a twenty two million dollar dead cap charge. He's what I coined and Dan. Patrick took my term years ago The positive hostage. He's the positive guy that's one for you produced for you for years. Good in the community. He's the face of your franchise. He's the guy that when they think of steelers. Currently they think of Ben Rothlisberger. He's that guy but he's the positive hostage he's the positive guy that has your franchise held hostage it. He has them as Jeff says by the short encourage Levick. A nays got him and his hand. He's got the whole world. It is ever minds me of the movie Major League to when You Ain't got no mabus man you got we got mean. I mean it's just I mean so. It's absolute it's at absolute prove it year for Ben Rothlisberger he has to end Jay Glazer. Who ripped him a couple of weeks ago and recently walked all of that back of course of bins Workout comments and stuff like that. He said he had a conversation with him. Said Ben is attacking His his rehab and he's in the best shape life all that good stuff. And that's what you WanNa hear because when you have an organization over the barrel like that and only reason why an organization will let you have them over the barrel like that is because you've proven to be highly productive and highly trustworthy that they know you appreciate the position that you've been put in what they done for your family so I think they're comfortable with obviously but man forty one point two. You better go out in throw forty touchdowns if you if you throw twenty two touchdowns and sixteen interceptions. Ooh Let's just say this your touchdown to interceptions better at add. Add Up to at least forty two. It had better be thirty two touchdowns ten interceptions I duNNo. It's let's just hope the best case scenarios Rothlisberger comes out plays. Well looks great. The elbow looks fine arm. Looks like it's got some zip in it and he looks fresh because he had a year off. Basically that's the best case scenario and we can all just hope that helps 'cause worst case scenario. We don't WanNa talk about why tittle they don't want why. Tutto but let's transition to our next topic and I saw this on the athletic and he athl- athletic ran a poll about the Pittsburgh Mount Rushmore list. As you guys know about Mount Rushmore South Dakota to get the four presidents on Mount Rushmore. Often topic used for. Who's the best of all time in a certain sport so we want to? We want to do it for the city of Pittsburgh. Let me give you the results of who was put on a mount. Rushmore is not. This city's dealer not just the steelers city number. One Who got the most votes? Was Mario Lemieux. Second was Joe Greene. Roberto Clementi and Sidney Crosby. What's your thoughts on that? In terms of g. H Mount Rushmore. There's no there's only one. There's only one opening in my opinion. There's only one opening on Mount Rushmore. There's only one person that you could say I take them off and put someone else in your not taking off Mario Lemieux. If you don't know hockey you don't know that he was one of the greatest players of all time. Not of his era of all time super. Barrio exactly Roberto Clementi. Do I need to say anything else? I mean there's a there's people trying to get the number twenty. One retired Jackie Robinson did because he was unbelievably important to Latin America in those type of players coming to the United States a gay in mean green. They retired his number with the Pittsburgh steelers. For a reason he is the Pittsburgh. Steelers number seventy five. He's still Kurt must mean trials. Absolutely he is. That's Berg so those three guys. No one is taken them off. You say you're taking either one of those three players off. Go ahead an exit stage right. Because I don't know what maybe you never saw them play. So maybe there's someone that's really young and I never saw Roberto. Clementi play for my dad. Did and trust me. I was indoctrinated into that at a very young age and I got to learn about him. I did book reports on the guy girl growing up through. Fear here reduce. Yeah anyone. That's a steeler. Fan has seen the clips in the highlights of in jail. And all that he did. And I've seen all that I've got to watch Marielle new in live in person as well as on television saw hoist two cups in ninety two ninety three so anyone in ninety two but still managed that four spot. Sidney crosby. I'm going GonNa say that he doesn't deserve it because he's one three more than Mario. He is considered one of the greatest players of his era. I would say that he is one of the greatest playmakers in hockey history. But man you only have one more spot and there's a lot of other players that could potentially be on sale. What what are your thoughts? What are you doing well to to Roberto Clementi? My Dad would hit you with a bat if you thought Roberto was not Wanted to Pittsburgh steeler goes. I mean a Pittsburgh city of Pittsburgh goats. I mean my dad was a was a vendor a peanut vendor at Forbes field as a kid you know. My Dad wouldn't go to concerts to go see the pirates. I mean he was like look. I don't want to go to concerts. Drop me off. I'm going to Forbes field to watch the pirates so he would absolutely agree with Clemmie absolutely agree with Joe Greene. My Dad's just typical black guy from from Manchester nor side. He don't know hockey. He doesn't know hockey but he knows Mario lemieux. So Mario would be on there because it's just the name Hockey two guys hockey. I'm not a hockey guy. I liked depends. 'cause I'm from Pittsburgh? The blue uniforms are sweet. The Snoop Dogg Pittsburgh. Uniforms even better dovan exams. One Jersey knows are lovely. I love those when the pins win. I get my cap. Got My back to back. Capsule rock out with the because Silly Pittsburgh. I'm cool with Mariel I'm taking crosby. Aditya crosby man. I'm taking crosby out. You know who? I'm putting their in pick up to read over hand. He said his dad so food at Forbes field as well they probably my dad soaks at Forbes field. He drank a bunch and sold a bunch washed. A bunch of games But he said he always was scared when Willie mccovey would hit and Forbes field because he never seen anybody hit a ball harder than Willie mccovey. He said it was like a bullet fly through the air. Everybody was scared with stretch was up to bat but my number four guy. It's got to be the chief. You gotta put the chief on there. The chief has to be on. Pittsburgh's Mount Rushmore. You gotta put the chief on their four super bowls the cigars he was a gangster. He's from the north side of town. You gotta put the chief on their take crosby out. Put the chief you gotTa have. Two steelers on air stood the two penguins. You gotta put the chief on there so should be Joe Greene lemieux. Clementi in the chief. The chief makes sense because he is the most He's the most Known I guess you'd say owner in Pittsburgh people forgetting I didn't even say this My Gosh Mary. Lemieux turned turned into an owner so yes solidify his spot on there in case. You didn't know you eventually bought the team So I'm not going to disagree with you at all But the thing is for me I I agree with you. That if you're gonNA take someone off you take off You Take Off. Crosby is a bunch of different ways you you'll honus wagner. Okay that's an old school guy. All right wrist ball cord as it. Vdb Baseball Card. You know that was the baseball card. And and there's a big story behind net and I remember watching that and it's crazy to that story He was tremendous and no one talks about him. He was played back when Taika. I was running around that they were. They were great players. You could bring up a guy that played the Negro Leagues in Pittsburgh Josh Gibson. Invasive he was of mazing to watch need. That's a Pittsburgh player. But you know what I think that if we're GONNA go if we're not going to go with those three players is being legit no doubt about maybe Willie stargell tops. Another one another one. That came to mind if you wanted to like. Keep it hockey you if you wanted to keep individuals Sports Arnold Palmer. That's a good one. That's a good name. Yes I mean. All the guys aren't from Pittsburgh but still. It's a tough debate. I'M NOT GONNA disagree with the chief. You could burn up a bunch of different names in Bradley James. Before trump is I'll be honest. I feel like you're all saying fake names. I have to believe they're all good because I have no idea who they are. Hey He's being honest though but here here to to that there's Youtube I mean. Youtube is not gonNA give you all of the context but just look up some of the names. We're talking about go. I mean you probably not doing anything right now anyway. You probably run up your Wi fi like everyone else is around the country. Go TO YOUTUBE. Take a look and you know. Search these names particularly since. You're a steeler. Fan Look Joe Green. You know look up. Some of these classic steeler guys definitely look Joe Green and look at the absolute abuse. He was doing offensive Lineman if he did that stuff today. He wouldn't have a salary. I mean they would just he just had to pay his fines. Every game he'd be paying game check. He is absolutely killing offensive line especially with the head slap good Lord. But if you're going to do the research and I have to say this because I grew up I mean I was Eve baseball fanatic. I love everything about the game and I still do of Baseball Roberto Clemente look up. What he did off the field as much as what he did on in terms of. How did he die? he died in a plane crash trying to take earthquake supplies to Nicaragua when they had an earthquake there. It was on New Year's Day and plane crash never found. His body never really found much of the plane either and so he was an amazing person. Not just amazing player. My Dad's still talks about going to a game at Forbes field and watching Roberto Clemente with his right foot planet at the base of the right field wall throwing out a runner at third base on the fly. Yeah overdose toys nuts. I have a person. Let's shift personal Pittsburgh favor. But he'll never be on a mount rushmore. I love the Cobra. I love Dave Parker. Dave Parker was my guy in terms for it. He played for Buddy but he was the best for the pirates that that's when he was the Motor City Cobra what I was Tommy hearns. But he was the Cobra. I mean Day was the Cobra. But that that's a fun little topic. I know some of you guys. I Know Bryant Harrington is ripping us up this not being a steeler topic to keep it a little bit light we go off it a little bit different direction when it comes to the standard the standard. But I I I love your answers for the list and again I wanNA give it a shot out to Nick Fair Abou- of And his twitter handle is at therapa. Fbi So Nick Fair thank you also up the stevie wonder happy Seventieth Birthday Jeff. Do anything else you want to jump into before we get out of here. That's been a good show. I think everyone for listening makes you check out the steelers preview. That's myself Brian. Anthony Davis and Dave Scofield tarn Thursday night. Check US out. We'll be there which talking about you know Clue Tamar. He died about a draft. Pick eventually but I don't know what the headline is well. We'll you're like no clue wilty FITO. We'll do our two minute production meetings. Yeah so I send us L. Lanes and as always steeler fans tune in tell a friend subscribe. Amen stay safe everyone. We will see you next week for another episode of the standard is the standard.

Pittsburgh steelers Pittsburgh steeler Ben Rothlisberger Brian Jeff National Football League football Ben A. He Mount Rushmore Anthony Davis youtube Steven Nelson twitter Forbes field hockey baseball Mario Lemieux Nick Fair Abou
Mason and Ireland HOUR TWO

Mason & Ireland

00:00 sec | 2 years ago

Mason and Ireland HOUR TWO

"As Jackie Robinson. And by the way, we hear it's interesting. There's a movie called the Jackie Robinson story in which Jackie Robinson plays himself. It's awful. Yeah. It's not good. I've seen it twice. It. Jackie wasn't an actor. Right. It was not it doesn't do Justice to the amount of crap that he put up with. They were trying to do a feel good movie. And it just doesn't tell the truth this movie, forty two tells the truth there's one scene where peewee Reese who played shortstop for the dodgers was from a town outside. Cincinnati. I think he was from Kentucky. Because don't you land in Kentucky. When you go to Cincinnati. You land at the airport and Covington, I think you do your land in Kentucky. And so laid by Lucas blacks who said Tokyo, drift also the star of the movie quarterback and Friday night life. And and he's now in one of the CS is, but so Lucas black pays peewee Reese and Jackie Robinson in that game. Was playing first base and the people in Cincinnati or all over him. Just calling him every name in the book and PB Reese in this picture member. You and I went to beach this picture used to hang up. I hope they moved it right to Arizona when they moved. But this pictures to hang up in the in the clubhouse in Vero beach. Pee. We went over and put his arm around. Jackie Robinson to say. Look, I'm from here. Everybody's not this bad wrote. Let it bother you and that scene plays out in the movie. But if if you've never seen the movie forty to go get it go, I mean, I would guess it's on Netflix or Hulu or something. You know? However, you bring I tune you can free movie into your house, it's incredibly well done. And today is a great day to watch. So I got some stuff related to this. You got into Caspian, Los Angeles. So Jackie Robinson day. Dodgers. This is from Charles Freeman dodgers have the exact same number of African American players on the roster as they did last season. Oh, I'm glad I saw this year. Oh, okay. I saw this zero now because because they're not African American Charles's, technically. Right. But you know, most people never get to talk to the players anyway. And the dodgers have some players who are black kenley Jansen black. Although he's from where curiousness out. Yeah. We're talking about African American right? And you know tonight like, yes, he'll put he is not African American but he'll play for the reds. Kemp who is African American will play for the red tonight. But major league baseball now has an African American population of only seven point seven percent. There are sixty eight African American players among the total of eight hundred eighty two players on opening day rosters. There are a staggering eleven teams that don't have more than a single African American player on their twenty five man roster. That includes three teams who don't have one there. Only three African americ-. Players in the entire National League. West and Ken Griffey. There were twice as many African American players when Griffey broke into the major leagues thirty years ago. Russell Martin is by racial does that count. I I mean, I who am I to say what counts? Well, Michael would say does Michael's children by racial, Michael? Obviously by Julia's wife is white. So he would say there is much his kids. There's as much plowshare. I so but Charles makes the one African American manager in all of baseball, right? There are no African American general managers, and there's one African American manager. Well, the this issue is Eric Davis who had a long career, you know, is part of this RBI movement, right reviving baseball in inner cities. And what his argument is is him and Darryl. Strawberry came up at the same time. They eventually both landed up playing together for the dodgers, but they won world championships in other places. Eric one one with the reds and. Darrow one one with the Mets. What Eric would say if he was here and we used to bring him in back in the day. He would say the problem is that if you're a really good black athlete in a city in Los Angeles for like he was. He said you can get paid quicker and your road to the pros is easier. If you play football or basketball. So let's say you're the best athlete at Crenshaw hice. Right, right. Even if baseball's your favorite sport. If you're willing to play basketball, you could be in the NBA by the time, you're nineteen sure. If you're willing to play football. I mean, you've got it to play major college football at USC, maybe win the Heisman Trophy. And then you're in the NFL, but the time you're twenty one if you play baseball the money isn't as good, and you get sent to a minor existence where it's just not fun. But there are far more jobs in baseball than there are irrevocable. So if you're not the best athlete you could play baseball so here, but his his the reason he pointed out this way is the elite players the best players in in high school are not going to baseball. It's the players that are below. Well, here's one of the reasons Cuyler Murray is a good example. Right. Here's one of the reasons how many scholarships are there for college football times eighty five eighty I thought it was down now. Okay. Let's five how what's the average number of scholarships for baseball. I would say like five to ten maybe twelve twelve mean already. There's there's a push towards football. I mean baseball has no control over that. The one thing baseball does have control over is salesmanship and baseball has not been very good until this last year at selling the sport. I would argue that the let the kids play sales push was a very very affect by the way being spearheaded by Ken Griffey junior. And Griffey says I don't think it's the antenna baseball not to have black ball players. But we have to find a way to get these kids back. We lost them to football. We lost him to basketball. We lost them to golf people. Don't see how cool and exciting. This game. Is the other thing that baseball can do that. I think is critical is like, for example, Mookie Betts one of the best young players in all based African American doesn't have a single endorsement not even blow local not even in Boston. Wow. Doesn't have a single endorsement that's one thing that baseball. Should be doing. They should be facilitating us or somebody else who had the top most one hundred famous athletes and the only one from baseball was trout at one hundred. Yeah, there were soccer players basketball players NFL football player. And like the only baseball player was trout. Yeah. So yeah, they definitely have an identity crisis. But it's a matter of salesmanship, it's a it's a matter of making a an appealing pitch. The let the kids play thing the death of play the game the right way that's a step in the right direction. Did you see this thing where they're talking about trying to trade change the Harmon Killebrew logo to Mike trout? So best ball does. The they always say they want to change the Jerry West logo to Michael Jordan. Yeah. You know if. I always thought that logo was Roberto Clementi that's Harmon kilobytes army caliber. Yup. Always been the guy the. Yeah. I mean, I always think that this is this is a whole bunch of noise about nothing. Mike trout could soon become the most viewed Mana major league baseball. Major league. Baseball announced Friday it is willing to change its logo to feature the superstar sluggers cameo much like the NBA features Jerry West. They asked if they could get twenty seven million re tweets and they would change the logo. They're falling far short of that goal. Yeah. I wouldn't. I really don't care who the logo is. I I think no. But it would be great for baseball. If it was a contemporary player, if there's Mike trout, we always talk about how can you best sell? The sport might trout is the biggest star in the game by changing that logo. I think that's significant. Yeah. I I would have no problem. Supporting it, I. But I think you didn't know that was harming Killebrew. I thought it was a real command. Yeah. No. It's. By the way, they slimmed him down harm until Dr heart rate. Very very big, man. Very big, man. But you know, the circling back to to Jackie Robinson day baseball was actually more progressive than the other sports. Sure. By allowing African Americans to play baseball was kind of the first on four pro basketball. Right. Believe it or not. Yeah. And now, it's obvious that pro basketball's I eighty percent black. Yes. And most of the white guys in the euros. Yeah. So it I think the Jackie Robinson. By the way. I'm pretty sure forty two is now you can't wear forty two on any team. They it's retired an every forever writing. And but they had a few guys that were wearing it then. And they they grandfathered him in. Like, I know for example, mauve on was one. Yup. Mariano Rivera was one. But I think all those guys now are gone. Yeah. I think they've all they've all retired. So now today you're going to see a whole bunch of people wearing forty two as a matter of fact, I just went and looked at the dodger rosters. And if you click on any of the players, it's it has their numbers for two. But then tomorrow it will go every go back to their regular number. Hey, I wanted to mention this. You you probably have heard by now. But one of the oldest cathedrals in in all of your in the world is apparently going to burn to the ground. There are reports. Now that there is no way to stop this fire. It started in some scaffolding as they were repairing you've been there was I've been there. It's it's I mean, I can't even imagine the value of the art that is inside that cathedral. And it looks like they're reporting that they have no way to stop this fire, which is insane. And no no word about caused or anything anything like that. But it's it's a tragedy. Hey, I wanted to mention real quick to we're giving away a four pack of passes to see adventures and game at the regal cinemas at LA live, April the twenty six you can come out watch movie with me in my own private theater. Grab dinner provided by Carl. Junior serving up their brand new charbroil bacon truffle Angus burger before the movie thirty today given away those passes ESPN LA Mason, Ireland, don't forget about him in the hour four pack of tickets for vendors endgame special screening on opening day, April the twenty six at the regal cinemas at LA life and. You know, what we should do some? There's there's dodger stuff going on right now. Yes. Yup. First of all Kershaw back. Tim Shaw's back tonight. So it's I'm not going to declare any Kershaw days this year until otherwise notified. But here's what's interesting Yasuko Puig, all the sudden everything has come out about UCLA. Week dodger players are talking. Andy McCulloch did a great job in the times and a bunch of dodger players went on record about UCLA Puig. And it kinda uses game two of the World Series against the Astros. As as a point Puig was out of position on an Alex bregman line drive to right field ball should have been caught. Instead it went for a ground rule. Double Puig wasn't ready for the pitch got a late jump. He was out of position he was shaded to far towards center field. And as it turns out, he often ignored the positioning card distributed to dodgers defenders before games. According to six people. Six people familiar with the situation he on several occasions ripped up the card in front of outfield. Coach, George Lombard and left the pieces on the ground. Well, if you talk to people that covered the dodgers, they will tell you that when you brought up Puig to the coaching staff, they just rolled their eyes. Well, you bring them up to the players, and they rolled her eyes. Just turn frustrating part is that if we was good and played good, then we would be really really really good team. So everyone wanted to be that good player. He didn't see it that way. He just saw it as he was just going to show up and do whatever he wants. The public saw all the flair that accompanied Puig's production. But he was late. All the time has attention wavered is preparation. Waned ran the basis with enough recklessness. That teammates joked twig thought he was invisible he hassled staffers ignore suggested from coaches he rejected entreaties from teammates and early in his tenure in Cincinnati just two weeks ago. Said he confessed I never worked hard with the dodgers. He vowed to apply himself now because he'd be a free agent after the season criticized Roberts for decisions in the World Series. Also professed his love for the color red randomly, okay? That. This is a lot of. Red meat here. This is this is real evidence for why the dodgers moved on from. We got. Gotcha. But. This comes up in the NBA a lot. If you're going to take that stance. The the stance that we just describe let's assume for the sake of this discussion that everything you just said is true and it happened. Okay. If you're gonna take that stance. You better. Be a great player. You better be LeBron or Koby good. Because if you are not it becomes very easy to get rid of you. And now that I hear all that. I think the dodgers just decided it's the line you, and I always repeat the old Mike will be tolerated until you can be replaced and they tolerated him and still even last year. I miss I miss the excitement I missed the wild horse as I now, it makes complete sense heard this stuff complete sense. Now players are going on the record about it. Which makes it completely different. There was turmoil all the time and they're talking about life after Puig. Greg. What was your reaction your dodger fan? What is your action to the p- week story? I was I thought that it was pretty actually fairly balanced between those people that were saying good things and bad things about him. Well, Greg, I'm not so sure I wouldn't still keep doing. Anyway. I mean, do you think his talent outweighs all that style? No, I don't. And also the talent that you have out there right now where you have AJ Pollock and center who's struggling at the plate a little bit fine. But but you'd rather have Poyton pied rather. Okay. Right. And then Cody bellinger's either in right, rather evanger than Alex for Dugo who's been really really really good and has a good arm really strong arm to he's been in the outfield jock been killing the ball this year, and you can still inter- inner change other guys. Yeah. Josh, Scott soy. Here's here's why. Here's why I disagree with you. I would have kept we simply because Steve something who said he was coming up on a free agent year. And there's nothing that guy cares. More about than getting a big deal. So he might. He might pull a beltway. Remember Adrian beltway. When he went into his free agent year hit forty eight home runs. Right. Puig might be that guy. Although he's terrible start. Yeah. So a lot of guys I mean like three hits, but well sort of Chris Davis now well online. On one game. Right. One game. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean is off to a terrible start. Now hearing all this completely get exactly why. And I for the. Sizzle that went along with Puig. That's what I miss like. I missed the the fund the enthusiasm the licking of the bat the wild throws from right field. The stretching a first knits reminds me of you. And I know Mike Dunleavy a little bit. And when Mike was coaching the blazers and then after that, he came in coach the clippers. I was out with him one night. I told him I said let me ask you some one year you were coaching Rasheed Wallace. And he got forty three technical fouls. Forty-three the next most of any player in the league was twelve. He had forty three said, why do you put up with that? What what's the point of putting up with a guy who kills you forty three types during the season for no reason? And he said because his talent outweighs the crap you have to put up with right? And so that's the question for Puig. Well, early in his career, clearly you couldn't give up on because you didn't know if he was going to be the next Roberto Clementi. Yup. Then he dipped last year do do the dodgers go to the World Series without peak. He made some good plays. He came seven in the NFC s big hits in the LCS's. Exactly. But you've now gone to the World Series two years in a row and lost. And it's partly because of you know, whether he plays like Justin Turner said whether he takes the game off or he doesn't. So can you? For this year going into another. You're you're hoping for third time. Are you willing to risk that I'll tell you to the World Series? This is a fascinating question, isn't it? Yeah. How how old is weak twenty-seven? Got that's early to give up on a guy with that much talent. But if all that stuff you said is true when he ate maze. Yep. Ripping up the analytics cards and not just showing up on time. And by the way, and then that game to that point the Alex bregman point that could have been the World Series that could have been the World Series making that catch. The dodgers could have been up tool instead they split. So I. I always thought getting rid of his a mistake, and I've moved str- right onto the fence right onto the now, I you guys are now over under the other side completely get it. Now, the fact that because it's one thing to hear this an general sense. It's another thing for a player like Justin Turner or Dave Roberts to come out and say took plays off. To hear stories about not paying attention to where to position himself in the outfield and tearing that card up in front of the outfield. Coach George lumbar that kind of stuff. You know, you you can't have it. You just can't have it. All right. Coming up next. Zach Lowe has said something. Okay. I love Zach Lowe, the low post that actually. May support what the Lakers are doing with their front often. I find that hard to believe I'll share it with the next day. And we're giving away a four pack of tickets to see avengers endgame at the regal cinemas LA live, April twenty-sixth mail and private screening once you're there ESPN LA private theater dinner provided by Carl's junior. Serving the new charbroiled bacon truffle Angus burgers before the show, eight seven seven seven ten ESPN. It's a marvel question, and it is a more difficult one. Let's see if we can we'll see everyone seems to go this Adam Brunstein our house nerd came up with this one. Right. So is is the first caller is not gonna get it is that what you're telling me because I think four out of five times, the first caller has nailed it. He says the first caller will absolutely not get this. We will find out next eight seven seven seven ten ESPN. If you want to go to movie night Mason in Ireland ESPN LA, ESPN LA Mason iron. You guys are so smart about your marvel trivia to get into the big screening of adventures endgame opening day, April twenty six to LA live my own private theater with you guys movie night with Mason dinner provided by a Carl's junior. New charbroiled bacon truffle Angus burger before the movie this is supposedly a really tough question. I would never have known the answer to this. All right now, most of these questions Mason prefaces with this is a really tough question. No, one one of the answer in the very first person gets it. So the very first person today is going to be Mark in north Hollywood. Mark. Are you ready? Yes, john. I'm ready for this. Okay. Mark Mark day would be it'd be very good for the bit. If you've got this. Right. So see what you can do. Here. We go. Putting in the test here. Let's see if Mark what is the name of the terrorist organization that kidnapped Tony stark in the very first MC, you film, iron, man. Okay. The terrorist organization. It's it's an tip of my tongue right now within five seconds one five second two three four say again, Ken ring. That's my guess. That's what popped in my head Mace. Possible. People cant outsmart the Honey. Are you try? You know, what it was nets on? I don't know if there was Netflix, Hulu, they did like they all the movies, consecutively. Yeah. So it's kind of fresh in my mind right now. Well, you got to man, you got a four pack of tickets. The adventures endgame with me on April the twenty six opening day, plus Carl's junior. Hang last hang on Marc. You'll get your info hang on, man. Okay. Look are we doing us tomorrow the nerds Adam community? Are we doing this tomorrow? We are we have to do two different. I'm gonna come in. I'm going to come up with the question that is unglue Google on Google. Yes. In the five seconds that you did it. I I typed in terrorist organization iron. I'm going wait, Greg. What are the parameters it needs to be a question from the marvel universe? Right everybody tomorrow. And couldn't you Adam Brunson are Lakers producer just walked in Adams of big marvel nerd we relied on him for this question. The very first person got it. Everybody all four of us. And I don't even watch more movies. Yeah. Come up with a question tomorrow that would be very hard to Google. All right. That's the goal Adamou where did you fail here? I probably failed in lake with the thing. And you gave him too much time. He was he was but it in you. I was giving quick five will. Yeah. I was like an NBA ref. He asked you to repeat the question. And as you were being he was typing it in. But he's still go though, right? If that's true. He outsmarted us. Yes. Absolutely. Which he should get credit? Yeah. He should. All right. So tomorrow come up with a better question. Mason Mason, third one. I gave you on the list today. I think that one all get some people because it'll it'll take too much time for people to. It would be tough to Google. Tomorrow. We'll we'll we'll come up three seconds now to answer K through six. That's new thing. Thank you for attempting to help. Thanks. Thanks nerd king. All right now, how did you like the throne without giving anything away where you excited to see it back? Yeah. I've got some theories now that's messing with Wednesday. Wednesdays thrones day by the how do you guys know this five hundred and fifty six days since a new thrones episode real night five hundred forty six days. All right. So let me get to this thing that Zach Lowe and whoa, JR. Talked about okay, okay. On the wo Jin low show, and I'm getting this off of silver screen enroll. They they some is that it seems as if rob Pelinka is going to be heavily involved moving forward. And apparently if you ask some players in agents around the league, they would prefer that. Then a full LeBron James takeover. Here's what Zach said, quote who they hire in the front office is going to be absolutely crucial to replace magic. Because there are two orbits here. There is a Lakers orbit. And then the more interesting one is there's a LeBron orbit. Right. I've had some key powerful people in the league, including powerful agent who represents a lot of key players. Tell me we don't want the person to be from either of those orbits. We don't want the new GM or president or whatever they do. Even to have a connection to the brought we needed to be a fresh start my players don't to have the impression that LeBron is running that team. And quote now you, and I have always thought the bronze going to have a lot of say, I still think it should have a lot of say, you know, he's only two years left. Right. Right. So I kind of disagree with with this agent that I do I do too. And by the way, the first inclination of this or first indication of this will be who the head coaches. Right coaches Theron, Lou than it's pretty clear, actually, all three of these guys have highs. And and I think that being having the Brian in your corner is critical to making this work. Yeah. Of in the next two years, you can't afford to alienate the greatest player you've got. You is talk about how important is to have a straight line from owner to president to GM to coach on our team on the Laker team. That line includes LeBron you have to extinct 'cause now he's the star. We don't even have we didn't even have a president it goes. So it's gotta go owner front office office bets pull Inca star. Right. And you can put the coach in there as long as the star agrees. That's the world. We live in now. Yeah, we learned that from Kobe when they tried to hire coaches with talking to Kobe that you mentioned Koby. When I ask you something about Kobe. Okay. Next Mason and Ireland ESPN Derek tech Koby. It's hard coming up with questions that are not Google -able. Yeah. Non Google lable. Just as a point of information Mark in where we see at Mark Mark north Hollywood north Hollywood swears he didn't Google it. So yeah. Pussy seem like a fan of the show. So we went fans the show that all right? So on Friday Mace. I argued yes, said Kobe Bryant's phone might ring to replace mad now. I know you think you Papu that idea. I think that is ridiculous. But here's the thing. Okay. Here's the argument for it. Yeah. He's hyper competitive, right? He can always go back to conquering Hollywood, which is what he's trying to do now. But he may never again have the chance to run an entire team let alone the Lakers if he ever wanted to do it is not now the time Kobe Bryant is bigger than basketball. And once you didn't know what you didn't answer my question. What was if question if he ever wanted to run a team, even if he has an inclined to do it will ever have a better opportunity than right? There's my question. I'll ask all you'll answer. My question with a question as we like to do around here. Is it possible that rob Pelinka is a proxy for Kobe? Is it possible that when genie boss says, rob Pelinka's, my guy that she had a conversation with Kobe Bryant and he backed his former agent. Well, I think Jeanie and the Lakers dealt a lot with rob when he was Kobe's agent. So they had a prior relationship. But when you say proxy wouldn't then the next step because coming into run basketball. In other words, I want I want my guide there. Right. And I can help guide. My guy be the guy behind the guy. But I don't want to be directly involved with any of it. I don't think it hurt. But isn't it possible? This somehow pulling the stream things like we're in is not behind the curtain put gum out from behind that. Curtain great and powerful Koby. Okay. So wait a minute. Here's the thing. If genius in this position magic up and goes. Yup. Because he wants to tweet again. So free to tweet tweet. It a lot this weekend. Just congratulated. Tiger woods. Yeah. So he's he's gone. And there's a vacuum and jeans like what should I do? And she gets a call from Koby and Koby says stick with my guy. Don't you think it's possible that that I mean, this is it's possible that conversation, of course. Yeah. And I think it probably I don't have to listen to it right mean? But I mean, I would say, gee, I would say I would say, okay, I'll stick with your guy you come in. And replace magic for me. I need a favor. I need a name consulta Laker fans. I need somebody. That knows basketball. You're a genius. Rob can do day-to-day you come in red. I don't I don't because I need you in the room when I'm trying to recruit cuvee ageless free agents for some weird reason who's all all name starts with k right? Hey, d- in Kawai and guy. Okay. I need. I need you to get the case. Come back summer the case. Yeah. Yeah. No. I look Kobe. Bryant is building an animation studio up. Kobe Bryant is working on a series of books that he intends them to become the next Harry Potter. But with a basketball, and you both Kobe doesn't like me doesn't sleep. Kobe. Bryant is focused on things beyond basketball now on the other hand, you know. Brian winters is going to be here in a little while. And I read his book called LeBron Inc. And I think LeBron will be interested someday. In owning a franchise. I strange drawn is going to overpay by the cabs. Would not surprise me as Dan Gilbert has never struck me as somebody who loves basketball. He just loves money. Yeah. And you know, now, you'll be a casino and right eveland in, you know, so, but I mean, just from reading I think LeBron understands I think his focus is going to be some day in basketball. Specifically owning a team or running a team. But that is not what Kobe Bryant is going to do. Let's say laughable that you would suggest no let but laugh laugh, I second laughing. Let's say it happened. Let's say Kobe's considering it could in your opinion, Koby and LeBron coexist. It's a tough one. You've got. It's a tough one. See I think at the at the end of the day, you you have to have one person that gets to drive the car in other early. Rob Pelinka's got the keys, right? But he may be making the brunt. Think that he does, you know, maybe that's one of the things that rob might be good. So you're saying rob is giving the impression that LeBron is driving the car. Well, he goes out and hires title. Like, would you they they didn't hire David Griffin with that have been a good idea about it right idea? Well, according to the Zach Lowe is talking to the other agent, they said, no, no, no, that's LeBron's guy. I like David Griffin. You're saying you're saying it's Pelinka and LeBron has the keys I've saying he's giving LeBron chance to drive the car. Well, what David Griffin would give LeBron a chance to win the car and David Griffin has got experience a track record? Right. But where would you put David Griffin below Palinka or above them? Look, I would've valuated everything. I would have started with the president. Operations. I would've searched high and low I would talk to the Sam prestige and the Darrow MAURICE in the messiah juries and the Neil oc- as of the world, I would have made them in charge of basketball operations, then they could decide what they wanted to do with rob. And they could decide what they wanted to do with the coach. Yeah, that's the point of Brian Chemnitz. He's article today in the as yeah, he he shares that experience that can guess my opinion, Brian. It's a very people should go read it. It's very good. But but I don't think it's happening. We'll tell you a matter of fact, I was I was texting with someone over the weekend. Right close to the situation and the final text from him to me was Pelinka is one hundred percent in charge and staying in charge. A completely believe it. And I think it's a disaster. I think it all no, I cannot believe that they didn't do you know, what it is. This is not a mom and pop business. This franchise is worth five billion dollars operate like a billion dollar company. Not just like, my friend from the neighborhood, Linda, her husband, well hurt and rob who used to be covert agent. It's it's it's a little unfair to to to make it appear like Lindan Jeanie or making decisions in a vacuum. I think she includes Linda because she trusts her. Right. Well, Linda's I mean, but I don't think they're making trae or adviser. Trade as genie's adviser. I think confidante would be a better word. Okay. I think she she bounces. I say she has genie's genie trouser. They're like best friends. But I don't think that that. That's the only person jeans listening to who. Also, she listening to she's listening to rob. Right. And she's listening to us listening to magic. She was listening to magic who else is. She listening to hope. She's listening to Ryan west, and she's listening to Joey and Jesse or brothers. But I don't know. I mean, that's the problem when you don't have somebody who's who's been around the league. And you know in knows the entire board. It your your opinions are limited. Correct. That's that's that's the hardest science art. This is the whole point. You're the Lakers. Right. You're not capped on the number of smart people. You can hire to work in your organization. What are you doing? Well, we're gonna find out, you know, maybe maybe rob is working on things that gino's. About and we don't any kills it. Who knows? But if he doesn't all the things you're saying fair. Okay. Well, gino's she must know by now it's on her. This is her call. This is her decision. Can't blame. Jim. All right. Hey, let's get this in before we gonna fast track Todd Gurley spoke today at the Rams facility. Now, the one thing that Mason. And I have been shaking our heads at since the Super Bowl is there's never really been what we consider to be an honest explanation about girly. So was he asked about it today? He was asked about it. We're gonna fasttrack now we'll go to fast track. And then we've got the wind horse coming. We've got Brian Windhorst. We've got Todd Gurley stuff. We've got all kinds of stuff. What are you saying just you should play it play now? Yeah. Okay. Here is Todd Gurley of the Rams on his knee terms thrown around regarding your knees. People genitive some people said, it's rightous can you confirm this any of that true? Is there something that you are calling your? You know, just I'm doing right now filling pretty good like I said taking the day by day and just trying to get better get ready for the next season. All I can worry about is. You know, how right now, I don't know how may be filling, you know, six months from now. So like, I said just kinda just keep working hard doing what I've been doing. You know, these past couple of years, and you know, communicate regio wherever that is. So really just like I said just taking the day by day trying to make sure the best season cone. Feel like I know anything more that was that was. What is this for us? It's about you know, bay on Todd Gurley for us. It's about you know, let's let's make sure that we take an intentional approach that specific to you know, each player kinda like what we've talked about it and Todd is no different. I think that you will see us. You know, really our goal is over the long period of time really until the first game. That's really the timetable that we're operating with how does that specifically affect his workload throughout OTA's into training camp? Those are things that that we're going to continue to just monitor his progress how he's feeling with that communication from both sides. But but he's a guy that he's in a good place right now. He's feeling good. I know it was good to get back in the building. And he's been here doing some things. So that's really something that you know, as the off season progresses and then as we get into training camp. You know, he's he's a guy that we will continue to monitor. But it's like that with all of our players one more from McVey. Yeah. You know, I think Todd is shown that he is capable of carrying. The work load. And and we have a lot of confidence in Malcolm for us. You know, you want to be smart about that. But, but I think you know, like we talked about the other day Todd is the guy that's been a focal point of this offense. He's gonna continue to be really we'll resulted in that, you know, was because he was forced to miss them games at the end of the year. And we wanted to be smart just about managing that load. But Todd has shown that he can handle that how we navigate through a season, it's hard to say Lindsay. But but we anticipate like we said the other day him being the focal point of our offense. And unless I'm told otherwise, he's a pretty versatile back. And that's we're gonna continue to utilize all his skill sets. So at this point, there's no question. There's something wrong with his knee. Danced around. They talked about it. There's clearly something wrong with his knee McVeigh's, become brilliant at giving you three minutes without even Yanni. We'll go for a while. All right. Coming up next is fasttrack Mason in Ireland ESPN LA.

dodgers baseball Mason Mason basketball rob Pelinka Lakers LeBron Los Angeles Jackie Robinson Kobe Bryant Puig Koby Kobe NBA reds Zach Lowe Cincinnati Ken Griffey Carl
Confessions

Baseball Tonight with Buster Olney

46:02 min | 6 months ago

Confessions

"Baseball tonight, the PODCAST. The Baseball Tonight podcast for Wednesday October Twenty First Two thousand twenty producing from his home studio in the foothills of Connecticut is Taylor Schwenk I'm buster only working for my own studio in New York last night game one of the world's series on ESPN radio dodgers and race, and early on Clayton. Kershaw starting for La did not look good the first inning just one swing and miss among twenty pitches he kind of all over the place. But Wow, he gathered momentum. Here's Kershaw on the top of the fourth. Pitch all the way swing scrape down at insider. They're from Kershaw and he has it role at right now. For Gas who who's doing the game last night with Chris Singleton. Jessica Mendoza and myself chiming in from time to time cody bellinger gave the dodgers the lead in the bottom of the fourth look back by glass out the first pitch swing and a fly ball right center field. It is well hit care buyer back it's gone. He hit it into the dodger bullpen. And Cody bellinger has given the dodgers to nothing lead. This is someone who when he gets hot can carry a team. He had a home run game seventy CS and he hit that home run last night care Meyer struck back in the top of the fifth. One Oh now to cure myrow fly ball hit well right field it's gone. Cabin Care Meyer Takes Clayton kershaw deep and the rays are on the board trailing two to one. And the top of the fifth kershaw continued to roll. To, to swing and a miss. And Sonnino down on strikes the side is retired. That's eight now for Kershaw. In the bottom of the fifth inning dodger's blew the game open with help from. Okay. Bets who stole second. Third and then made a great decision on the basis. Here's the to own a swing and bound I e s throws to the plate, but it's up to third base line a bit and bets will slide in safely. Seger to third MATZEC safe at first, and it's three one dodgers. And the rally continued. Full count last now now, with a career, high a hundred and eleven pitches three, two fastball little jam shot to center, and it's down for a base in and to score is seger coming around third is Muncie Smith with an RBI single to make it four to one dodgers. In the National League Championship series and Game Six and seven mookie showed up his defense. In this game, he showed off his base running and his power. We'll be bets the first batter that Fleming faces bet sense of flyable to right field. It's pretty well hit. It's Carrie it's gone. Opposite Field Home Ron Mookie Betts. And it is seventy one that's cruel. Greeting into the ballgame for Josh Fleming mookie Betts with the dodgers holding a big leads daybreak decided take Clayton. Kershaw out of the game after six innings and seventy pitches perhaps saving him. Ammunition for later in the series, the raise began to rally in the top of the seventh inning. Victor. Gonzalez was on the mound for La Three into first and second one. And the pitch and a fast line back to the vowed caught by Gonzales throw to second and they double off Brosseau. An absolute rocket back to the mound. Gonzalez. Makes the catch and turns well have been. Should have been a base it into a line drive inning ending double play. And here is Dan Schulman calling and the top the nine? Wendell bats in pretty significant crouch from the left side he swings and bounces it back them out off the bare hand of Kelly and it'll be seger getting it in firing it onto. I. Kelly looks like he's alright. Had A big smile on his face. One six three on the game ending put out and the dodgers behind a great performance from Clayton Kershaw, another homerun cody bellinger, and then they'd pour it on in the Middle Innings and they win game one, eight, two, three, raise manager Kevin Cash talked about game one not discouraging disappointing. Yeah we bounce right back like we've we've done multiple times this year and look to find a way to win a game tomorrow we got Blake on the mound, which is very, very encouraging. So No, we'll. We'll be good cash talk about Clayton Kershaw and the difficulty facing. Kershaw was on that a pretty good breaking ball gone really short and I think there's some deception involving you can appreciate and totally see why he's head into the hall of fame one day whenever he's done but I mean, he had good stuff philo seemed like it was popping out of his hand. Pretty good. Really did a nice job against us and he talked about starting pitcher tyler now. Well, just you know I, think it was alternately kind of lack strike throwing right there I looked up at one point I think he was you know thirty seven strikes, thirty seven balls that's not ideal. especially gets offense like this can really capitalize on on the free passes. Gabe Roberts talked about mookie Betts it's great and that's just another element that Mukhi brings. You know he does a lot of studying and to be able to create stress and whether it's stealing a base or just being on base to make the pitcher speed up or not execute a pitch he creates tension and each is a heck of a ball player. Roberts talked about cody bellinger of course, is now playing alonside mookie Betts you look at just sheer talent. There are a couple of the best players in all of baseball and now you take mookie who's really impacted us. Obviously we talked so much about in so many ways on both sides of the baseball as well as on the basis in cody just made another great play tonight defensively the homer couple nights ago and just taking really good at Bat. So yeah. is going to get the best of everybody, but now you know you layer in. Cody and you know the experience that he's had in the postseason to learning from that, and if he can bucket corey in that same in that same conversation, cody bellinger talked about game one that's always important in any series. Especially, the world series we did a great job of singing to our plan. It was just it was a great game overall and we gotta coming tomorrow and and and do the same thing over again and continue how fun and grind a and play as a team. Clayton Kershaw I talked about his performance in game one on sportscenter. Is a great great game tonight all the way around for us You know it didn't feel if didn't feel different other than being not in our home ballpark or being on the road or anything like that. But you know like you said I've gotten to do this before and the last couple haven't gone so well for me. So fortunate to get out there and game one and get another chance at it and You know we pulled out a win tonight and our guys played awesome. We're excited comebacks March I'd do it again. Talk about the dodgers belly obviously will with big hits jt obviously what does what he does monce Jog all the way down. It's just See the I didn't even say seger. So it's just like it's just a special team. We'll be wall fall sportscenter interview with great mookie Betts later in the podcast a couple of other notes Major League, baseball owners owners ownership. Committee. Approve The New York mets sale to Steve Cohen We're waiting word from the owners to take a formal vote to push that ahead but Steve Cone now in fully and position to take over the mets and a sad note former major league baseball umpire derryl cousins has passed away at age seventy four. His brother said after a bout with cancer. Now before we get to curl ravitch and. I want to tell you about season two of the ESPN investigates podcast that's now available. The running man tells the story of an obscure former Olympian alleged sexual Predator in how fourteen month ESPN investigation brought him out of the shadows more than fifty men were physically abused and mentally manipulated by their coach over forty years until they banded together decade later to find justice, subscribe and listen now to ESPN investigates wherever get your podcast. Before we move on one, recommend another podcast last year the Houston Astros record in a massive change scandal rocking the sports world and putting the legitimacy of the two thousand seventeen world series winning in doubt led by Visionary General Manager, and a front office staffed with mathematicians, engineers, computer programmers. The Astros went from baseball's laughing stock to world series champions, bestselling author and journalist Ben. Writer wrote the definitive book on the Astros Pathbreaking Approach. But as it turned out, he had underestimated just how far. Some of them would go to win now he's back to the story. He thought he knew to find out what happened and why the most innovative organization in sports push itself not just to the edge. But over here from the people who were there players Astra's crossed and the unlikely outsiders to help uncover the truth the edge Houston Astros is produced by prologue projects and a presentation by cadence thirteen listen subscribe for free on Apple Podcasts spotify radio, DOT com, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Rabbie tray. With Carl ravage. Those the baseball tonight which is playing during the course of the World Series Raby tell me what you did last night. Hall, we had good night rabbits. To, Shareo a producer, Greg Collie and several episodes the baseball I. Enjoyed a little meal after our pregame show, which runs from seven to eight We Watch the game together and did sportscenter post game and we all sort of came to the realization as excited as we were I. think there was legitimate excitement. We starters at the race add lined up. We were all excited like, okay. We've got pitching pitching beats you know good pitching beats offense any day and the dodgers just you know they kinda went into their workshop and wheedled away at Tyler last now and seven cash seemed reluctant to take them out. and. In the end, it felt like you know you had a you had a a two hundred million dollar payroll difference and the dodgers were just better and that may be a knee jerk reaction to one game. We're all probably guilty of it but boy that was some cold water in the face of the expectation. This is GonNa be Great. I completely agree with you you know the phrase skipped the kept on popping in my head last night was the raise brought a gun a brought a knife to a gunfight. Like I felt like that the two sides are just on different planes especially and I. You know I talked about this on the podcast yesterday and I asked Dave Roberts, about it you know he of course was part of that two, thousand, four red. SOX team the Doug itself out from an oath three hole against the Yankees, and by the time you remember this girl by the time they got the game seven they were rolling. They were like the rabbit train like they were just going along. And they steamrolled the cardinals in the world series and I asked Robert said zoo call before last night's game is we're getting ready to do the game on ESPN radio. He started nodding halfway through my question like he absolutely sees the comparison this dodger team like that Red Sox team stared at the abyss of a three one deficit against the braves they dug themselves out. They had a great game seven cody bellinger getting a big hit and last night they just rolled into that game. And similar talent I mean superstar talent excuse me on the OH, four Red Sox at certainly. On this team you know and I and I think we you know there was a revelation during this sixty game season. And then certainly early round playoff when when the dodgers lineup turns over and the guy standing in the on Deck Circle is bets you just realize that in a sense, the circle that the dodgers had hoped was completed had never really been completed until they brought in the last piece of that puzzle and it's Mookie Betts and I on a team that has literal superstars. Cory seager is a superstar Justin. Turner is a superstar or certainly has been cody bellinger is super star Kershaw. Is a superstar Bueller is a superstar, and then you have a bunch of guys who are stars in the making you know mookie Betts is the one that shines brighter than all of them and they added him and this is year one and the difference that he's had on that team is is is massively significant and it's easy to say that and people would be like a do obviously they added one of the best players to gain. If they added Mike Trout, they'd be that. Well you could make the case and I did last night on twitter. You just asked who impacts the game of baseball that they are playing more than Mookie Betts and that's exclusive of you know somebody going out there and throwing a no hitter I understand the pitcher is ultimately the guy if he's on, that's going to determine that you take a position player and you tell me who based on their defensive abilities based on the arm that he has based on his speed based on his I, q based on his ability to foul pitches off based on his ability to get an a pitchers head. Based on his power impacts the game more than mookie Betts he finishes the circle he really does, and he's also in a special class I was thinking about this this morning of you know superstar players who are so well rounded in such phenomenal athletes. You know at that level the first name that always comes to for me is the Guy I think is the greatest player of all time and that's Willie mays. Roberto Clementi was certainly in that class Mickey Mantle who is mostly remembered as you know for all the home runs he hit but when he started and before he blew out his in the world series unbelievably fast is a switch hitter. He was that type of guy and obviously trout is that type of guy although the one difference between him and McKee is that Trout just doesn't throw nearly as well, but it's a barren small group of players. Who are at that level to impact games in that way? I would agree and I think I would put very balance. except. Files an like trout. Sorry to interrupt Carl bonds a little bit like trout at the one thing he didn't really do that well was throw. Yeah but I'm I'm just thinking early in his career when he was running when he was playing out the when he was a guy that. You know the arm may not have been a ten. It may have been eight seven but his q the intangibles that go along with the physical to me. Anyway my observation was I would probably put him. In that category, but you know and look. wookey batch was dancing off second base personally I said detects and he's GonNa Steal Third soon as they threw to second base I thought that next pitch he was gonna go see it was a couple of pitchers later that he ended up stealing but look you're right I know somebody described be impacted a great point guard could happen a basketball team. It's really hard to do that on a baseball field give the few times you've come to the plate but the game is going to be impacted in one way. Or another Vibeke bets whether it's a great catch, a home run robbing catch shoestring catch a slow just literally taking in that first I bat you go three into on glass now you're like, okay. Well, again, check he did his job you got pictures exposed it's not going to be an easy night for tyler glass now anytime mookie Betts comes off, there's going to be fouled all's and and he's he is the straw that stirs it and he's an agitator and he's he's also likable like the the there's just There's a wonderfully irritating aspect to mookie Betts from an opponent's perspective where it's not like the Dennis Rodman who you want on your team but you just didn't really like like mookie Betts is a likable guy i. think he even you heard his mike last night when he was chatting with Willie ADAMAS law standing on second base like he he's affable. You know and he's an affable assassin 'cause he's going to kill you. And he killed the raise last night was that such a two thousand and twenty moment I didn't hear the Mike Because I was doing game on radio but I assume from the body language that what happened was is in Mogi bets who of course, played in the American League East Against Willie Damase got to second base after stealing the base and sees Willie standing there. He's a super nice guy too and they're like, Hey. Good to see you hey, willy to see and they share hugs because of course, it's two thousand and twenty and everyone's been locked into their own divisions They've been locked in bubbles. I'm assuming that's kind of what it was about. It seems to be in there to be some cat and mouse going on you know with last night looking back and Adamas Tony as the mookie kind of smirking like it's you're not gonNA. Get me can play your game whatever you're gonNA. Do you know probably thought bubble look I'M GONNA Steal Third I'm not gonNa tell you that but that's what's going to happen here and eventually he got the thrill over to second base go back safely and Yup here not now I'm definitely gonNA. Steal and thought bubbles turned into reality and they double stole and I know people who have certainly re tweeted it but you know mookie Betts and one other guy are the only two people in history of baseball to to walk and steal to bases in the same many of a world series game. It's McKee back and Babe Ruth I don't know the Babe Ruth was the all around athlete that Mookie Betts was but anytime you and Babe Ruth are on a list together and that's it. Your instant pretty elite company. Yeah. His last three games that he's played in this postseason reminds me a lot of Roberto Clementi from the seventy one world series where it was like that became clementi stage. You know he's throwing the ball all over the place. He's making plays running the line. He's scaring baserunners only hit a home run that gave the pirates, the a one Oh lead in game seven of the world series, a game they won. Two to one. The other two funny about movie is that he's not swinging the ball bat that well, right now Carl he when he's going great, he's pulling the ball. We really seen part of his game and yet he is dominating. In recent days, which is why this is so much fun. How `Bout Clayton Kershaw last night I actually thought I ending like Ono he's in trouble I. Twenty pitches he got one swing and miss is he acknowledged after the game he's bouncing sliders in the dirties not really close, and then he comes out after that and makes an adjustment in winds up with a fifty percent swing and miss rate the race Wong Thirty, eight times against him in his seventy eight pitches and they swung and missed nineteen times a fifty percent swing and misread not only is the highest rate of any stored in his career postseason a regular season Paulie Bikita sent this along this morning. It was the highest rate in a world series start by any pitcher since they started tracking that statistic in one, thousand, nine, hundred, eight by the way. That's the last year the dodgers won the world series. You know for Clayton. Kershaw. It was the perfect storm in the sense of the team that he's facing and I mean I I'm I'm guessing you like everyone else by about the fourth inning you recognize we'll. We'll. We're watching we're watching baseball in thousand twenty or of seeing a whole bunch of strikeouts. We're seeing very few players get on base and we assume this is gonNA. End when somebody hits a two. Run. Home run that that's how this is going to play out the fifth inning changed because there were some walks and obviously we saw some still basis which was which was wonderful because we don't usually see that but there's a there was a point that GAM you're like Yup seen this movie before who's GonNa hit the home run and Kershaw's ability to work around the rage bats I think highlights again the significant. Difference between the two teams for as similar as they may be in some ways that there does appear to be a difference between the way that the dodgers approach at bats similar to the way that the Astros had recently approached it bats the red sox the Yankees there are just there is an mookie made it quite clear after the lcs we just grinded Bass and you know it sounds cliche and it's Probably Boring and no one really wants to hear about grinding it bad because that means foul balls and long at bats but that they do wear you down and the raise don't you know the raised didn't wear Clayton. Kershaw down at all and he eventually stopped Danzig. Balls. Tyler last now never stop bouncing balls I. in fact, at one point I think we asked has he thrown more balls that hit the dirt. or the glove because every inning it's felt like tyler glass now was bouncing ball after ball after ball and Kershaw is used to have in the first inning was, and then he wasn't and they need ended up with fifty percent swing in this but the ideal team, and this is why you worry about the series when you know Walker Buehler's about to show up and whether it's worrying or may like they have swing and miss stuff and you're bringing it to a team that swings and misses that that can be exposed again, another significant difference between these teams and in the end currently after one game. You're left to feel like holy smokes the dodgers are so much better than the raise he and I was talking with a really smart person yesterday someone you know well and I can't use his name, but he basically said game to with the way the dodgers are right now blake Snell is a terrible matchup for the race because he talked about how this is someone and look Blake Snell Wanna Cy Young Award. When he's at his best he's got great stuff and dominates hitters. He doesn't have great command right now he runs really deep counts which could potentially play in the hand of the dodgers as as they are. and. It look. I looked it lined up beautifully because last now dose have slowing in this stuff when he's right, he wasn't right. So they had a big chance last night and in Tex- tech said during our pregame show he thought that was a must win game for the race like you need to win game one you you need to beat Kershaw, which would you know set them off for the? Next kershaw start that didn't happen. You need to get the length of glass no, they tried that didn't really work You need to set the stage to show that what you guys have done through the regular season playoffs Israel Randy arosa Raina locked night. You know he got kershaw he he looked very I. I don't WanNa use the word amateurish but look he was you could pitch to him Up until the world series. You couldn't get randy arose arena out and and he was hitting home runs at a rate that was buried bunch last night. He looked very regular and Kershaw did that to them. Euler will likely do that to the rest of the race and whoever they start. Someone's GonNa Start Tonight and whoever they go to again you you just wonder, is this a knee jerk reaction to a Game One performance or are we able to you know sort of see the forest through the trees doesn't this matchup doesn't work for the rich? No the only young player who I I've seen who basically adjustments never mattered was Soto like want sodas in class by herself randy rose arena last night Hembo send along these no fifteen pitches three fastballs three changes to curb all seven sliders they're working down in in in. The area that we talked about on the podcast yesterday is being a potential weakness for him. I don't mean to overstate this because you know if if the race fall behind or it's a one sided game than the dodgers might pitch him differently I kind of think he's going to be a non factor. Carl. In this series, because the dodgers have decided, he's going to be, which is why Brandon Laus struggles are so big. And just watching his body language last night. It actually reminded me of Cody bellinger from a couple years ago and they were throwing the sliders down down and down in, and he could not conquer that he could not get over that renting looks like he's so deeply in his own head. Saturday buster. You're you're right and you know the insistence on the way we do things with the raises to leave in near the top of the order it seems clear and again, what seems clear to most doesn't necessarily. Fit the, it seems clear to us with the raise they. They obviously do things differently I know I was not in the minority went cash took Morton out the other day it was like, wow, really we're GONNA we're doing that now and it worked one point about it works. Necessarily doesn't mean that it wouldn't have worked if you left him in, but it works take him out. So we all assume that it was the right decision. If you left morten might have work we we don't know in the case of leaving Brandon Lau at the top again it doesn't feel like that's the play Kevin Cure Myers back he hit a home run maybe we removed Kevin Cure Meyer up and Brandon Lau down maybe we move down but he does he looks defeated the home run hitting the LCS sometimes like Kansallis with. The, catch last night the ball games, the globe it felt like allows homer the bat found the ball as opposed to it. Actually you know sought it out and and did what it was supposed to do is more like that was a that was a buck showalter or contacted damage. You know that that was that was one of those. We throw the bat at it and Whoa my gosh, it new went out. So it's not the same God that was so great during the regular season and back to A. Rose arena quickly. You know we were all wondering who else is GonNa hit meadows hasn't hit. Brandon. Hasn't hit Yandi Diaz hasn't hit at some point. You realize there's only one dude hit year and if we can quiet him and the other guys don't figure it out. Well, how are we gonNA lose and that's what it felt like last night who else is going to hit, ya? Yeah. Exactly and by the way if the raise win tonight, we'll probably boom back boomerang back the other way. Way. So great about the world series. All right. I got two more for you before we go. That are not related to the world series. If Luneau the longtime general manager, the Astros who was implicated in the Science Stanley Scandal that was ruled upon by Major League Baseball fired and he's currently out of baseball serving his suspension, the intern interview with KP our C. in which he basically said he didn't have knowledge of the cheating scandal give a listen if I go through all of my behavior. All of my actions they're consistent with someone tells the truth and they're also consistent with someone that did it. No I did a lot to try and prevent us from doing anything wrong after the red sox and the Yankees were punished in two thousand seventeen. I had a conversation with our manager and I asked him if anybody are dugout was using fitbit's are apple watches or anything that would be remotely considered against the rules. He told me that one of our coaches had been using an apple watch but. After, the incident with the Red Sox had stopped wearing it because clearly were supposed to be doing that he did not tell me anything else about trash can banging or any impropriety I gotta say Karl After hearing that it reminds me of when you hear a college basketball coach head coach, you know saying he had no knowledge of a paper place game from his ear like you were in position to know like all that trash can banging on for a long time. There are a lot of people with. Knowledge of that, and then remember Carl into in the fall of two, thousand eighteen the Astros put a team employees in the photo will next to the Cleveland Indians dug dugout next the Boston Red Sox dugout until Major League baseball complained, and Jeff. Now said there's nothing to see here. This was preventative look. There were a lot of signs and a lot of complaints in a lot of things going on for him did not have any knowledge and I'm sorry I'm just not buying it what about you? Well I. Think the head in the sand thing is a fairly. Easy one for people to fall back on especially at the level that he's at the suggests to anybody that would ask him. Don't don't ask don't tell right I don't want to know so. In a sense I, it's it's sort of like we'll do July. Will I withheld Didn't lie but I also withheld information I knew in this case could feel similar to that concept of I I'm sure you know I get I got a party with a bunch of high school boys and girls downstairs do they kiss? Are they? You know what are they doing i? Don't know I didn't go down there but you certainly had some concept of what might be going on and you do face done some of the conversations that your your son and his friend. We're having visited Jan something like that's going on in house case, and I think rob Manfred kind of made the point yesterday during his interview tour regardless of whether. Lou. Now new exact details or not, and we have evidence that in our opinion proves he does but regardless of that part of it he's in charge. Yes. He he needs to know he was charged with being aware of what's going on so In in both senses I think he was aware you're gonNA. If you're asking does every single detail I I don't think he'd want to I don't think he'd want to know because I think that makes them complicit in it but I think there was an absolute awareness and probably knowledge of to. So I I'm with you on that. Well I I mean think about what was going on hundreds. Of Times that trash can was being bank right at some point somebody might have picked that up and especially as is involved as he was in all elements of his organization and rightly. So you know this Astra's very successfully made a lot of great choices but to be that involved in so many things into basically say I had no wariness I I'm with you. You're in charge you gotta know. And yesterday, the little bustard, there's a little responsibility on you. It's not like you didn't read the papers. It's not like you didn't read the Internet it's not like you hadn't heard of some of these things and then they then the responsibilities on you to go and find out as opposed to go into high. What I don't WanNa know what that is. Actually that is what you have to. Yes you've got to go and dig. You've got to ask the hard questions so that you do have the knowledge so you can stop it and it feels like he's telling everyone I went the other way like wasn't ideal. Yes, he. Had the power just as Jay handle all along had the power to basically go to the the players who you know, and he said that he wasn't really that involved. He had the power to go to the coaches to go to the players said, knock this off or going in the interview room across the hall and I'm going to tell everybody everything would have stopped in the same way. Jeff had the power to go to Aj look in the eye and said it's anything happening. If anything is happening, you need to end it and apparently didn't do that Real Quick Steve Collins has been approved by the management committee. As the future owner of the New York mets, this is what we expected. I sent Carl a lot of hope. A lot of home among mets fans coming up here as he takes over as owner. Of course I. mean why wouldn't there be you know you got a guy who's a lifelong met fan who has suffered along with other fans who looks at this organization now as as more than just somebody who goes in pays you know thirty bucks a ticket and gets his beer and popcorn and roots. Now he has not only a rooting interest he's got a vested interest in improving the quality of the product. Why wouldn't there they? The only other person that I wished may have gotten involved if I were a fan and bought the team after reading some of the things I read yesterday is Michael Bloomberg I mean Coen's worth fifteen billion apparently Michael. Bloomberg value is fifty, five billion. So he only disappointment for me yesterday as a met Fan why did Michael? Bloomberg by this team Steve Cohen his team fifty, five billion dollars to help with this. But of course, they should be optimistic and. I have no other reason to believe that in in one to three years this this shift, a total about this. All Right Ravi I hope the train continues to roll through the postseason for a little bit longer the four games. Amen to that. After game one of the World Series Mookie Betts spoke with. Kenny. Mayne on sports. Center at night. Just Just. Happy to be here with his guys. They've they've made it so much fun for me. Really easy for me. I just Kinda sit back and watch them play our baseball historian Carl ravage who probably got this from Tim. Kirch. In tells us that you Babe Ruth are the only two in the history of world series play to walk, and then still two basis in the same inning. Did you consider stealing home to get Babe Ruth off you? Know I didn't I was I needed to get the second so everybody can have some Tacos you know. That's what's important to me, and then you got the third and then you came in with what was it consequential run? You ran right on contact take us through that play. I knew I needed to get a decent decent primary lead, and then secondarily I needed to be ready. Soon the the ball hits the bat. OFF Like I said I've practiced it so many times spring training throughout the season. Just for just one moment. I was able to execute. You make it sound kind of boring but you're one of the most exciting guys playing in the game right now you remember your other world series home run a couple years back who you hit it off. Yeah. Yeah. It was my only other one off Kercheval. We definitely didn't bring that up though. Do know what kind of pitcher was. His signature slider, it was actually a good pitch. I just threw it right into the one place can hit well this time you're on his side. GotTa be comfortable when he starts dealing like the way you was for you guys to be out to then you get a little leading the game gets a little more comfortable. Yeah when he was rolling like that, we knew we had to do a score a couple of runs and he was going to hold them. Now. They scored a couple of runs late, but we ever to hold him off and. No one game one, where do you feel you stand in all time? mookie is right now there's MUCCI blaylock. There's you mookie from do the right thing you feel you're up at the top at this point. I feel like we're close. I was named after Mookie blaylock. So he's got ahead of me. mookie. Do the right thing. I don't know what his last name. He. He was known before I third since I'm the third one. Just happened to be a partisan some great mookie blaylock the former name of the band, Pearl Jam Rock, and Roll Hall of fame. You guys had to struggle so much to come back in your last series to get there. Did you guys have kind of a different comfort level like hey. We're happy to be here. Let's just go out and play relaxed. Yeah it was like you said the struggle to get here a lot of emotions a lot of. Took a lot out of us Go get into that last series in nowhere here now you know. Just. Enjoy it and. See what happens. Numbers Gay. THERALAC, a reporter and producer primary dot com we rely on for numbers all over the place Sarah Start today with a confession for you. Okay. the other day I told you that in writing this article that you helped me with about the greatest world series performers ever that Ad Madison Bumgarner one, I got cold feet, and before I filed it, I changed the ranking. And I didn't have bumgarner one. I just looked at it again and again, and again, I thought I how do I pick against Mr? October Reggie Jackson who has just crazy numbers? So I, apologize for that because they know you were excited on your mom's behalf that I picked up. Bumgarner I was very excited about that and my mother was very excited about that show. That, but it's okay I. Mean I I do think that you know we get a lot of recency bias and I was worried when I sent you some listen had bumgarner up there. Then maybe I was being too recently bias with that and because I saw that happen a lot of these other performances I didn't actually see happen but there I don't know one one, B One c one d. these are all outstanding performances to do all of these things in the world series. So I don't we'll see what my mom says. Rickey Jackson my goodness when you go back and look what he did I, mean you know and the funny thing is he missed the whole seventy two world series because of an injury and we finally got a chance to play in the World Series and seventy three your mets he he beat up on game six and seven, and then in the seventy seven world series, he just destroyed the dodgers I know that because he made me cry a little kid. All right now, let's play the numbers game number three number three is fifty percent. So that was Clayton Kershaw freight last night in his start, which was the highest in any game of his career where he threw at least twenty five pitches and I really think this is worth noting because Clayton Kershaw is so good and I know the postseason I know all of that cling Kershaw has had so many outstanding starts in his entire career in that fifty percent was. A higher rate than he'd had any start of his career including the regular season including the playoffs including everything else it was the highest by starter, a world series game as far back as we have pitched tracking and one of just five postseason starts where pitcher had at least twenty five swings against him and had at least a percent whiff rate in it along with ones by Tim Lindsey, Graham Corey Kluber Blake Snell and Walker Bueller in in the postseason not span. Number two is three. So cody bellinger has homered in back to back games he homered in. Game seven than he homered again last night only one player in dodgers history has homered in more than two straight games in the postseason was bill matlock in three straight in the nineteen eighty five. In. The amazing thing with the dodgers. I, think I've brought this note off in some form or another like four times already this post-season because they've had a bunch of guys go you know hit a home run in back games but nobody nobody else adopts history has homered in three straight postseason games. He bellinger will do it tonight number one number one is to so mookie betts had two stolen bases last night, we know he was the second player in MLB history with two stolen bases in a walk in the same inning with the other being Babe Ruth. The last player was multiple stolen bases in consecutive postseason games regardless of how many innings they took or anything else was Ricky Henderson in nineteen, ninety, nine in two straight LDS games for the mets and five players have had multiple stolen bases back back world series. Games Omer. SKELA. Nineteen ninety-seven Kenny Lofton ninety five Bobby Tolan in nineteen. seventy-two Lou Brock in nineteen, sixty, eight and Jimmy slagle in one, thousand, nine, hundred, seven. But this this is the one where I was staring at this. How has this not happen before only one player in postseason history has had at least one home run which movie best had last night at least one stolen base in backed back postseason games Jose can go in to straighten nineteen eight. That's just back to back postseason games not even just world series that was actually alias Game Four for him and then World Series Game One nine hundred, Eighty, eight against the dodgers so you and I have. Friends who are fans of various teams on a scale of one to ten what's the bitterness scale among the Red Sox fans that you speak with watch mookie betts play this way. Oh. My Gosh. I mean, just just look at twitter last night I. Mean it's incredible at this amazing game and yet the Red Sox were I think trending on twitter it's. Definitely a conversation topic, but you know what's so great about Mookie Betts is that the sense I get from people who I know who are Red Sox fans from people who I see talking is like the McKee that's just so lovable. You have so much respect for everything he does that it's hard to be to to in grind there's anger towards the red sox maybe towards the way the team is run itself. But you can't can't not smile watching the abouts do all of this? No. The reporters who cover the Red Sox are tweeting out a lot with sarcasm about quote unquote payroll flexibility, a lot of a lot of that believe me is going to become a running theme as we go into two, thousand, twenty, one in Boston for sure. All Right Sarah thanks for doing s always great to talk with you. have all your mom for me I allow. Bleacher tweets. Already. Buster bleacher tweets for Wednesday I got Debbie Gamons Brown. She writes in we know you root for good stories not team. So what stories are you reading four in this world series buster? Yeah. Until I don't know if he saw but Debbie sent out a tweet the other day saying that she loved the story about Tim Cartoon. Yes. Jockey around the parking lot to the tune of rocky put out by producer Justin where. You know that that's that's a pretty cool tweet I'm rooting for more of that more stories like that. Maybe Tim, we'll have something good when he returns the pot on Monday but I'm guessing not it seemed like he was a little i. wish they had seen me do that I know exactly. So the best stories in rooting for in this one you know I I'm rooting for Clayton Kershaw. He's a really good person. It'd be nice to check his box. I'd hate the idea of a hall of fame player You know first ballad unanimous election like him going through his career and just having a hangover I I find it to be a little bit tired and so I kind of want that. Over with you know I refer individual players in the team for different reasons you know Blake trying and grey guy Dave. Roberts. George Lombard different people new organization you really happy for you know and it's interesting on the dodger side. One of the people in the Front Office Galen Car who I went to the same high school is he did and I've got an own through the years and on the other side if the raise won the world series and Oliver Drake, and went to the same high school again I did he would get a world series ring. So son somebody from my high is getting a world series ring by the time. This is over in the razor are terrific people you know cash it'd be fun to see him rewarded Kevin Kerr Meyer who just loves baseball I'd be happy if he wants those are kind of the stories I'm rooting for. Next. Time we got PK Steinberg he writes in I'm getting sense four however good. The race pitching is normally good. Pitching wins world series. The dodgers haters are just much better. What do you think? You have PK I agree with you it's why pick the dodgers to win the series I felt like they're experiencing manifest but after watching that last night and knowing the Blake Snell starting tonight. I should have been more aggressive than picking the dodgers and six. Sorry about that. Taylor. It's all good next we got kayaking Smith. He writes in he's basically saying he thinks the braves would have won a best of five series against the dodgers and wants to know if you think the LDS should be best of seven. Now I don't think so I think the playoffs are long enough. In fact, this year sixteen teams I. think There are a little bit longer. Than than what do you normally have, and after all this years in aberration I, I liked the division series being. and. Finally, Scotty Barnes at Scotty Oh barnes rates in what odds do you give for Major League baseball to start with the same schedule East versus. West versus West, etc and the twenty twenty one season. Scotty your question is based on the question essentially whether or not. We're going to be back in the same situation with a Corona Virus I loved what Hal Steinbrenner said last week in an interview and the Michael Case Show when he was asked about fans in the stands and you know how different things going to be, and he said, I have no idea and neither do you none of us have any idea until I think you know there's some kind of a vaccine and people are comfortable going to Ballpark and massing. I. Just. Liability he's reduced for these teams with fanshawe up in the Ballpark I. Think we're GONNA be right back in the same situation. So fingers crossed that they find a vaccine and they can distribute that you know wide. Because until then I think we're GONNA have a Lotta lockdown. What do you think Taylor I'm kind of with you man I think we're going to be in the same boat and people sleep on the distribution of the vaccine keeping keep an eye on that every all talk about the vaccine but it's very hard. There's three hundred plus million people in our country thinking about how long it's GonNa take for everyone to get one. So something to think about unfortunately. All right. That's bleacher tweets Hashtag lead tweets on twitter, subscribe to rate and review this podcast wherever you listen to your podcast. And just one quick thing I got a tweet yesterday waiting for the podcast I know my schedule's annoying and takes me a little bit longer than I'd like to get it out. But if you subscribe to the PODCAST, basically the second I press publish it's going to be in your feet. So that is a major key if you have not figured that out already right that's it for today. Thanks to Carl to Sarah to Taylor have a great day everybody. Thanks for listening stay safe and remember hating inequality based on skin color is something that we need to fight against every single day. Thanks for listening to the baseball tonight podcast. If you're playing fantasy baseball, don't forget to listen to the fantasy focus podcast checkout all podcasts at ESPN DOT, com slash pod center. Baseball, tonight, the PODCAST.

dodgers Ron Mookie Betts Clayton kershaw Baseball cody bellinger mookie Betts Carl ravage Red Sox Houston Astros tyler glass ESPN Major League Baseball New York mets Kevin Cure Meyer twitter Gabe Roberts Babe Ruth Graham Corey Kluber Blake Snel Yankees
Kruk & Kuip Grab Some Podcast Pine

Giants Splash

34:02 min | 7 months ago

Kruk & Kuip Grab Some Podcast Pine

"Hi It's Bruce Jacobs Chronicle Sports Department pinchitting here giants splash today I have the pleasure doing Mike Crew Co and Dwayne Kuyper about their thirty years together broadcast giants games talking about some of their favorite moments on the air awkward moment or two and. How they're destined to have perhaps the longest lasting partnership in major league broadcasting, history hope, you enjoy it. Guys, this has been a real test for everyone in baseball players, the media everybody, and you know for you guys you're sitting there and Oracle Park. There's nobody around there's not even a game goading is even there on your rug asking came out of San Diego and. You know I think people would agree that in watching the telecast it's almost like normal and there's not even some plexiglass between you. I mean, what? What's what's it been like? Well, it's it's different and you know the biggest thing is we have a constant dialogue going on during the game that you know something will happen. We can hit the costs which you just look at each other and we can talk you know and it. Kind of. feels. Good to be able to do that with your friend will now out he's a glass between us. And, I, I can't hear that. Great. So he'll go. He'll go. No idea what we say. I missed that little pattern that we have. So yeah, adjustment. We do obviously hear what we're saying with the headphones but those little moments between. In the broadcast where we could hit our costs, which we have the conversation I missed that. So it's it's it's not as good as normally as but it's still great. Plus. Plus Jinx Week. We get the. We get the banter in between innings you know where you know maybe. Bruce Votes you did something and we need to talk about it to figure out what the heck is going on or. We can't do it. We understand that this is the way it is. And we're making the absolute best of it and we can't wait to get to the park to do it. That's the bottom line. Is Difficult as might be it's not that difficult. We still can't wait to get to the park that's point now, you always really missing. Is the. Three or two hours. Before the game where we have so much fun whether it be in the Dugout in the clubhouse at dinner in the lunchroom. Doing our scorecards all that has changed, and that's that's the two or three hours that I missed the most. Yeah. No kidding. And I'm sure there are some moments where. The Games it's a road game somebody hits the ball down the line but the the the camera doesn't follow it. You don't know if it's fair. Afoul. And there's a weird gap there well I. This is not a secret. I'll bet I'd said. On the ground. Floor as telling near Yeah. All that is is just a way of waiting to see what's going to awful. On Road Games. When the should on the ground, you don't have any idea if it's GonNa go through or not. The balls hitting the air. You don't have really idea if that somebody you're out of the park. So on the ground in the air so that the best you're gonNA. Get. With the phillies they had up. Richie Ashburn Whitey Ashburn. And they had Harry counts and they were a great team. It's an example of how a play by play guy watches. The game as opposed to a color Alice. I watched the Monitor I don't watch the field. Watches the Field Harry Kallis washes field. There was a time in. In. Philadelphia where there was a foul ball that went back behind the screen up towards the boot and Richie Ashburn is sitting there staring at the Monitor. The ball hits of rate the chest. You never see. Eric Cal. Starts laughing at him. Hell as pissed because. Very callous awarding. Your bigly. Your favorite thought you were going to catch the. He was bad because he he didn't give awards well. When we're here tonight abolishing fouled up, I'll go for the monitor not trained myself for years. Well, look up just so I don't get. Richie Ashburn right? Yeah. Because he could come back in the booth and he tiny smoke it ahead. With the giants are on the road and we're sitting up in the booth. Will be watching now here at Oracle Park it's guard. Out, there. Hitting back behind hope play in Arizona here. Sam. Cisco going. Look over the walls. So it's weird. That's when you know you're at a pandemic season right there. That's pandemic. All the way Oh, my God. Let me go back as you grew up in Wisconsin during a golden era for the Milwaukee Braves and with Earl Gillespie at the Mike and I'm just wondering. About Thirteen when you know when they're blasting and everything. But what was the influence there was? What was it like Father Earl Gillespie? Look in those days there. I can't remember race game on TV I. Mean the only time to raise run TV is when they were playing the cubs. and. In those games televised wgn. SPN Blaine. Walsh. were. They were your attachment to the game. and. They were bigger to me than any of the any other players I mean Hank Aaron Eddie Mathews here didn't get any bigger than that but real glaspie. At style of his own and I never listened anybody else. So I didn't know if Glaspie was good I just knew that he was my guy you have you tell me what was happening in turned out that he was really good. And then my. The beauty of Earl Glaspie is win. Atlanta braves, stole. Braves from Milwaukee. Earl the job in Atlanta and he said. I'm. Not. going. So stock went way up when he said that. Lesson. Yeah. That was a crusher. So for you, Mike, it's you know stricken Vince Scali for God's Sakes and you're certainly not gonNA nobody's ever going to be him but as new listen to this guy. And then get older. Once, you take from the way Van did a game that you can use. Well then then never. had. An analyst, he was his own analyst He was the color commentator he was the. Play by play guy, he was two guys in one. But any taught me baseball and I and I. Loved Him for it and I thanked for it i. got the. Thank you for that, which is free special. And? Thank him. Every year is better back for that. But what he did, which was so cool and I try to incorporate it. In our broadcast is said he was. He was fair. If if a if Stan musial or Bush chargeable if they did something, you know it was you know he would he would talk about how good they were. You would not be Labor Charlie. Neal. Air. No, he would talk about the abandoned itself. regatta clemente hit a one up topspin rock into journey deal that handcuffed. and wasn't a remarkable at by by Roberto Clementi, and basically there's two sides to every. There's a negative and there's a positive and it's And it's your choice you can make it broadcast negative or. Positive but in talking about the opponent when you talk about how good at opponent is. It makes it all that much better when your team guy does something good because he's just beat an opponent with credibility has learned that from him and it's something that. I talked about and we try to put it in arshile. Scrape because you guys clearly aren't aren't home I mean obviously, you love it when the giants win and everything else. But you total credit to the other team, and if somebody hits a three run homer, it doesn't sound like you just went to a funeral. Not. True. I mean here today actually go almost silent. It's it in you know John's the one that is really. East as it all the time. It's a baseball moment you have to at some point forget that it's against your team. The hardest. Time for us to be liked that was the O'Toole series. When Mike and I enjoy doing the Games on radio, it was hard to give the angels credit. At the very end in game seven. We had to do it. I mean otherwise I mean, what? What are you doing there so I, mean, we were really proud of our work in that Oh two world series given the fact that it took us a long time to get written. Some of us aren't still over it. Now gone they can still remember tearing up when whenever I was riding got. Very quickly. Type A lot of people talk about your voice and you know a smooth and mellow it is. How does Your Voice Up to Your Dad's? oh probably, very close to the same. Tumor to. Yeah I mean I mean, my my dad was a wonderful auction here and some of my favorite memories are listen him when he was young auction airing. But. But helps to be blessed with good pipes if you're trying to do this job. And over the years, your pipes get better. Mean I. Listened Games that I did in. The eighty, six, eighty, seven in a d sound like a different guy so. I'm not in the Harry Kallis mode were. Not Going to stop smoking because I think it's GonNa Affect my voice. And then eventually killed area right. So I do think your voice does get better over time. We'll be back with more crew can type right after this Before one. Gender confusion. San Francisco. Chronicle Arts and Culture Columnist Tony Bravo and I'm hosting zoom event reuniting four members of the fabulous drag theater troupe the copycats. Join US on Thursday September twenty four, as I talked to Fayette houser scrambling cold win roomy Mizzou and sweet pam tent about their legendary performances in the nineteen seventies incredible style and the ongoing influence of the troupe in Popular Culture go to SF chronicle dot. com slash membership for details. I wanted to talk about favorite calls over the years. Now, obviously, some of them come direct quickly to mind the bonds record homer winning the world. Series. Mike. When you think about some of the great calls you guys have had at last they're gonNa last with you whether it was a big moment or not, but comes to mind. Well, two, thousand, ten in Texas. Is One of my favorite moments but along the way there yet remember I go back and I hear some of these calls and I'm in the background going. I learned was you know get out of the way. that the play by play guy doing this is the moment. So we're going down the road in two thousand tonight learned that lesson fifty twenty years earlier and I just try to basically get to get out of the way of those moments and then we started having. Great. Great Mom. Great moment there was no greater moment. In two, thousand, ten and Texas the giants close it out and they won their first championship. And when it happened, I just stopped. Looked and listened to. and. It was beautiful. It was historic. It was concise. It was bitching? I was just. You Know Jersey. My is without moment with down but. It's called. That was just. second-to-none. About you. Also. Mentioned in two, thousand, two and Kenny. Lofton hit that single that sense. You guys to the world series I can't hear like we're. And it was. So you know you were so excited I loved it myself in kind of thing you mentioned where you were so enthusiastic that you're just letting it out, you know on the air. But. It's not something. I guess you know you WanNa make a habit of at that time. It sure. was worth it now it just happens you know I can't dog anybody because I love raw sat out Of It it was. It was fun but I think with our guys you get out of their way. Yeah. Put stands out for you in terms of calls that are really last month yet. Well, I don't think anything will get better when you win your first. World Championship. they they asked me. You know we did so many shows recapping that twenty ten season. I don't remember who asked me about. You Know How do you describe? How do you describe winning the World Championship and it was released? Finally over it. You know. Now we don't have to hear about. This organization ever have been through. So it was relief so that being able to make that call and then realizing that. In two thousand. Twelve. Gave had a chance to make the final call in twenty fourteen John. To make the final call. Here. We are three guys do play by play. We all get a chance to make. A. Final Call. So that was You know when it's all said and done that in a being very important. The bonds wome runs were all fabulous. A seven, fifty, six was. A special moment because we didn't know when it was going to happen in our fans were just dying for it to happen. and. then. You just can't. You can't ever swinging amiss if you're the play by play. Guy You. Know. The one night where and it's gone seven, fifty two. All the can we go. Back So you gotta get the numbers right but I've been really lucky I've had So many that That it just an overabundance in I'm always glad that I've had Mike's next to make those calls. Never think about what you're going to say when a big moment is. At hand or do you just let it come naturally? No I always said I wouldn't write anything down and. Write stuff down. Just because I wanted to make sure that the that the right thing we said. I didn't take out a smart enough to do it up about my head. Lord knows you're doing. Well. Yeah. how about awkward moments, and there's one little highlight reel of you guys were back. You go pretty much off the rails. It's like any vowels in their sir company Uber. which I know you exaggerated but. today-gallup. Got Him. A couple I I don't even know who that guy is that said that. Doesn't make any sense. There aren't any words. That I. could possibly use that would sound or begin to start like Dag yelled got him A. Day It's not drawing ball I. It's like alien came over and sin. Paul it. But it was so funny and hilarious that That it's one of our favorite moments together because it right away said. What was that? That's my favorite call. You almost have to resurrect that someday Oh. Got It. s by telephone ringer. Are you kidding me? There's I had one in Cincinnati. With Pablo. And it was Would it go? I. Drive down the right field. Line foul. Gone. It's one of those. You know. All right. So you blew the call. You. Walk into the clubhouse in Lopez and Crawford you've got. Play playing every five seconds Oh, my God. In there, and now they're they're like standing there lockers like. Smiling. I mean those guys charge your day Fleming, with his home run call renter is when he lost his voice. Would walk on the bus they played in the back. It's differ preview group as the play by play guy is a guy is really vulnerable. You're kind of reacting to a moment the moments you have back. Oh because. I forget the outsor-. Forget who's hitting your? Late. I was talking about. About. Somebody and this guy here is dad we were talking about. Dalton. Don't blur show. So I'm going this is don't more show it he. was, really, good player Gary Marshall had really a good guy at the player and he was a good guy he was really good and the guy who was hitting was. Nikola Okay just kind of just let me run out hoping. When I finally realized that Marcia was on deck. I realized I made the gas and then you kind of you know you can't go and do it. Only shot. Other way that was nick. You know. Dog Is really good. Friend you get. Yeah. Go back to one of the old stick lines that John Miller US exactly that homerun buster was cozy intense. Yeah hundred pitches really good friend finder. But you do that. You just say something that's completely dumb and. You know you realize as soon as you're saying what you do say it. A look over you look at you like. You're in the middle of this to help you can't. You know what happens agendas when you? Start out doing this. Those mistakes? In your mind or devastating. Because you're young addict, you WANNA be. Perfect. But we're at the point now where. You make mistakes. You admit it. And you go to sleep at night you know it's like the vans yet it you're GonNa make mistakes. Yeah. So you just have to admit you if you try to cover it up, you make it worse. So he just admitted, it's not a big deal. Yeah plus lots of lot. Simmons told us something when we were young broadcasters. And he told me and. I just didn't have a good game I. Was Good at end of the game came to put us on my show he goes hey, just remember one thing. You're never as bad as you think your. Body goes and remember you're never as good as you think you are either. And it was such. Great Wisdom. And up. So we kind of a we get over it quickly, but you know. All the time when we listen to Harry Carey. But your name or forget a name or was talking about. South software that had the right first name any give it the wrong last guy who played twenty years earlier what? I'm doing stuff. But jinx part of what makes talking about his. Is. Lawn Mike and the band spot. Lots of you're going to do some play by play right now. So take it. So he put Mike in the spot where Mike is doesn't want to do play by play. Doesn't feel comfortable doing play by play. And Mike gets a triple play. And that's what line put. His armor on would launch should have said is the set of. Mike I put you in that spy but I mean call triple play is hard to do especially on radio when you to call it right away. What's going on? The Cohen like this pop up to the second basically here we go. Here's the person's second nobody out in. Here's the pop up to Second Vegas you got the by. Any. and. Then he got. Out He was over gone on my God he goes. Hey. You got the outright. All right. So I, WanNa talk about some trademarks. The Star with grab some pine meat where that come from. Minor Leagues to sit. You know because every bitch and Was Pine was a pain bitchy Mike and. Every time somebody would strike out somebody would just say grab some pine. Meat new. Perfect. So we kinda spun that off. You know it became funded We still use it every once in a while but. It just right out of the by respite said sits. Very. First Giants Game One, hundred, thirty, seven years ago. Yeah, exactly. How about that night's catcher will be in the squawk putting down the signs. Well. I had a friend of mine who is a? He was actually he was hospital and I called him up. He had throat cancer. So he was. Like this. And he was an old catcher. So. That's how he described it. He Goes Aso's squad tonight was in the squad. In. Any time so I just kind of took it and it reminds me. You might remember day. What? I had. To do with your kids but I want that I want that I want that I want that I want that. Will they said Wes land the bat on in front of TV maybe later, his back legs crossed they start right before Christmas when they use it all the commercials. And they're getting all these new toys and every commercial there's new toys and every commercial after. After the commercials done he would lay there in the Florida say I WANNA get down and get that I to get that. That's what it is. Yeah. Commercial would come up and it'll be out to get down and get get that. So every time we have a giveaway with rebel groups bobblehead. You know I WANNA get down. So we've had fun with it over the years, James Yes you ought to see our garage I. WanNa get that I wanna get there. There's crap in both of our garages that. Oh, my God. candlesticks Snow Globe killing. Geez, we have Carl the fog snow, Globes. and. Who the heck wants to get that Nelson. Yard one of these. About the magic one do. You know what? That happened were. Were sitting in year in our booth and some guys we always has show these guys have. The magic one whatever they it's only. One Rose at magic wand. And I just walked into one new. We just added onto one in the magic one do and then people start sending his hats and t shirts and they sent us a magic one. Do that. which we have on the radio. John makes a big deal out of it because he says is better than bad it's. Better. Than Babbitt. It's the funniest. A t-shirt. Magic wand do better than Babbitt. Batting everything you would have. If. Every ball hit hard founded founded became a hit. Yeah. We tell you can just do thing was designed to. Describe what a guys hit the ball Harvard he's not getting any hits. That's the whole idea of the step. John Tag the Magic Wand. Do. Benadryl. was. Just took live is fun. Now crooked I covered a lot of tennis and I remember Bettina Bungie. You got her in there. Someone's Patina Hunky back again or what the hell was that. But. Really one of the most colorful guys we were playing with him. And he would come back as completely ticked off about. You know here we are. It's a one ballgame and to outsiders rare second base. Hit this, the Blue Texas leaguer and a drops it allows the the run-scorers. Behind, and Bradley would come walk into the DUGOUT. They're candlestick it. He goes I can't believe it. We get beat by some God damn not no. Even, if you don't know who it is, it's funny. That made me laugh so hard that we've been using it ever since. I think Bettina Bungie House like seventy four years old. The Rug Castle. How about the stand guy I know that's that's pretty common. Stink Stank Guy What's your affection on that one? Edition and you did it with with. Marble. Bernard. Yeah Yeah I mean look we've always a guy on your team. That's. That either. Gives a steak guy or the always together guy who your team that deserves the stank guy from the other team. A marmon just happened to be that Guy Ritchie really was like that if you got knocked down. A. Jeff Ken had stakeout on. Your. Eventually sank. and. Then there's one. possibly. My favorite someone yawning in the stands and all of a sudden I feel like, I'm GonNa Tarzan moving. Unbelievable. The very first time I. Did the Rhino Yon-. Over some guy that was yawning I almost fell out of my children. and. Then you know put it on the shelf for a year and then he did it again. and. Then we had the one I don't know if it was last year the year before where. It was a husband and a wife did it and we both? Know my Gosh Yeah. I started at the guy was yawning. I do to him and he's yawning his wife start yawning in which she starts yawning type does it for the first time that I've ever heard? And I heard better than better than Johnny Weissmuller. Tarzan Yell Thursday. Oh, I mean I can hardly do because I was laughing so. Can you give us a little sample just Lakes the guy that does. We gotta both fans. You're not gonna hear that very often. Oh My. Oh Man. Well, it's hard to have. Trademarks when you're the play by play guy without getting too Hokey you'd never do but. What's the origin of your of your specific homerun calling a high drive to left? It is out here. Then everyone loves how did that originate? Well, it all started with eats at high. He hits a DP out here. Now that was you know that that was the original at candlestick with Matt Williams. Gary over into this part But after bonds. You know it was hard to call home runs because. When bonds hit him you can say it's high. Because you do they were gone. Yeah. That kind of went away for a while morphed into. High drive to laughter. Hi Dr to Right. and. So that's kind of where that winds at now but as always going to end with the same thing. Yeah. And I, said you imitating something from long ago. That was just something you came up absolutely not lucky was all by accident. And and then people started to say you know what you do that all the time and. Then I think Larry's the one who said Yeah you should do that all the time and with your bosses that yeah, that you do it all the time. I, love the clip where they've your whole run call over your home run. WAS AWESOME WHO It was it was a great swing and was a great call. You can find it on Youtube folks were. Seen it once or twice. Pretty. Funny. Yeah. Should keep going. This guy looks like a power hitter for the future in my mind this. Or you know what? He should enjoy this. He made not in another one. Gentleman. This is going to be a pleasure I'll I'll end with this when when normal life returns they're sands in the parkin things are buzzing. What's the first thing you think you might do when you get to the ballpark maybe hug somebody for a minute or two or? Well. I think for me. I mean. Just been able to talk to the manager talked to Claire Face to face. And then. Some of our most funded you standby in the batting cage. Standing next to Mike. Steady next report to your sleep Hailu or dusty. Baker we haven't had a chance to do that you, Kappler. We only know gate through. You know we've met him spring training a couple of times that he was really busy. So I think just getting the feel of what it's like to be back on the field on the field that we do not get the on the field experience that we've had for forty five years. Nobody you group. Well behind the medication batting practice. That's. Has Forever, one of our moments. Dinner have dinner some believable. But the thing that I am going to look forward to most. In. It has happened with full House here. And somebody a home run and my partner makes it call and I'll take my headsets off and I'll lean out so I could hear. The Fan this. I've. missed. It. got a right down just putting air. The back of my neck is standing up and I missed. That's what big look forward to doing again. That's open sooner than later. Well, I asked the grant Doug Green Wall son of the Great Hank about broadcasting teams and how long you know. What T- lasted the longest you came right up with an Ansari. From. What he tells me, the record is thirty two years with Vince, Gully and Jerry Doggett going back to Brooklyn. So I think that records in jeopardy. Well. We got another ten for sure. There you go. No Yeah We hope you're right Jake's. But I'll say this we come to the ballpark doubt and we can't wait to get here and we take. We we. We treat this game like it's the last one where we're going to do note. And we will tonight. God. Bless you guys. going. To Real. Treat. And I won't see you soon. Wait. We're going to. We're going to get this thing underway I'm. Late. we need to get everybody back at the park. That's. All right guys. Thanks again you bet. The giants splash is a production of the San Francisco Chronicle podcast producers, our King Kaufman and Allen. Johnson the theme, Song Batter Up was written and performed by Lauren Gold and Ray. East Louis. Support the splash in. Journalism by signing up for a chronicle membership at SAF CHRONICLE DOT com slash pod.

Mike giants Whitey Ashburn Oracle Park Harry Kallis Texas San Diego Gary Marshall phillies baseball Guy Ritchie John Richie Ashburn Father Earl Gillespie Bruce Jacobs Vince Scali Milwaukee Braves Earl Glaspie Harry
172 | La Barbie

Best Case Worst Case

29:44 min | 1 year ago

172 | La Barbie

"All the usual stuff. Eight to ninety nine. Canine dogs g mouth in alerted on the tour eventually. Want to get started cooperating. When you said these guys agreed to do control sale right. I skipped over a lot of really intends to go there. Da Seemed to hit houses with warrants and for the most dangerous kind of people that can be an always is a very high risk situation. Technology is amazing. You can talk to a box and in about two days. You can have a brand new jacket or brand new couch. One thing. Though is the same. We still color our hair. And what are our options? We have to either go to a traditional salon and spend lots of time and money even when that's impossible where we grab a box of hair color at the drug store. I don't know about you guys but that stuff always dries out my hair. But there's a new way. It's called Madison read. It took a strong woman to shake up the hair. Coloring world. Amy. Eric did just that with Madison. Reed the company. She named after her daughter. If you're wondering how you match your hair color. Don't worry. Madison re gives you the tools you need so you can. Color with confidence get ammonia free multidimensional hair-color delivered to your door. Starting at twenty two dollars visit Madison Dash re DOT COM. That's Madison Dash Reed Dot Com and now best case worst case listeners. Get ten percent off plus free shipping on your first color Use Code best-case. That's Code best-case alone. Welcome to best case worst case. This is Jim Committee retired. Bi Profiler former New York City prosecutor in right producer of CBS's criminal minds with me. Today is hi everybody. It's Francey hikes former state and federal prosecutor. Gem we are still social distancing which I suspect. You are happy about socially distancing for me but were also physically distancing. Akwa across the country. Isn't it everybody France? Jim Okay. Just thought I'd ask and with us today. We have a very special guest. Name is james skipped soule s he w. L L and I'm from New Orleans Louisiana. I'm a four police officer down in New Orleans. Boomer Marshall in New Orleans and I spent twenty seven years with the Drug Enforcement Administration as a special agent and then as a supervisor with our retired in two thousand seventeen and went to work for the district attorney's ear and St Tammany Parish Has a felony major crime investigating. I am completely retired now at this point. Kim. You're outnumbered heavens two one New Yorker. I love skip sank here. I'm so tired of being outnumbered by like Jim. Bobby I don't think you heard correctly James's Brazzi let's unbelievable. I knew you would turn it around somehow or James. Our we'll call you skip skip. You have a very interesting accent. Where's up from will? I was born in floor. We moved to Florida. My Dad was a Florida Highway Patrol officer recently moved to Florida. Grandfather played pro baseball. He played for the Pittsburgh Pirates and during the all season he would do the Spring Training Coaching in Florida. He didn't like this protocol so we ended up moving to Florida. And that's where I was born all right well first of all my dad was drafted by the Pittsburgh pirates. You went to their AAA farm team. But then his brother had just gotten married and he got drafted and so. I've father by enlisting prevented his brother from having to get sent overseas in the Korean War and he got on a plane went to Korea and came back a few years later and father had been killed. And there's a whole bunch of mess happening at the time so he never went back into baseball. But that's amazing so you dad played the Pittsburgh pirates where Roberto Clementi played. It was actually. My grandfather played the piracy was National League pitcher of the year couple years. He Played All Star Games. Wow My dad got drafted out of college. You went to Florida. State coincidentally played with football. Burt Reynolds and played baseball. Also yet played with Foreign Leagues in Cincinnati. Decided that wouldn't work in out enlisted in the Marine Corps Rink Before Highway Patrol. I guess that was my initial interest in malls worship. That's pretty amazing. And what was your grandfather's name and your father's name. A grandfather was Tool he's into a piece called the Blue Ball now that we instead of the park in like the forty four all star game. I believe it was the only homerun off and then my dad would juice. Oh Wow that's awesome. Well that's really amazing piece of history and I would just for the record jam skip. You couldn't have finished where your accent came from because every good southern Florida is not the south. I'm sorry to our Florida listeners. But although those of you Floridians who live in the redneck Riviera my favorite spot in the world that is on the Gulf coast of Florida. Maybe some of you there in the panhandle consider yourself southerners and all adopt such but the rest of Florida. Skip is not southern. So where'd you get your accent in Georgia? We MOVE TO GERRY. Adams Georgia to answer your question. I Q and then we moved to the New Orleans area when I was a senior in high school. Okay wonderful people come from Marietta Georgia. I'm just GonNa say that To start so skip. Tell us about your career. I mean you had a really interesting when you were A. Da for a really long time. I think it'll surprise people to know it's Drug Enforcement Administration. Lots of people think it's something else but that's D. A. And can I just tell you right now? I used to tell people that when I was in USA. When I was a federal prosecutor if you put a bunch of men walking into my office each one from a different federal agency secret service. Atf DA FBI marshalls five guys if you walked in. Put them all on a suit and didn't tell me where they belong. I could tell you where they belong. It's like instantly recognizable. You know who's who and I just have to say I don't mean to insult either. Your Jim Secret Service dresses the best and I have to tell you skip. There's probably a tie between you and the marshalls for maybe were stressed. Only because I consider you guys to be kind of the the door kicking cowboys and I liked that. It's a positive thing. It's not a negative and my wrong. You're absolutely right. It is kind of nature out on the street a lot. Cone ties don't fit end in the neighborhoods. We go to so yeah and a lot of guys love his uses. Excuse to dress that way even going to quarter. Us Attorney's office and yet but you are also dealing with a very violent incredibly difficult. Let's put it that way war instead of just fighting crime and so it's that I believe that the a has to be more tactical definitely has to be more strategic than the average FBI agent or secret service agent. Who are really basically babysitters. Let's get. Let's be honest right. Star Jam well-dressed Babysitters. But it's an important baby sitting but whatever the no doubt that we had a tax police sound we have today coincidentally was hit or sa not to eat. My was your supervisor. Bats Special Response Team that dealt with most of the high risk arrest and search warrants. Tragically left we have shooting New Orleans at one of our agents but s. thirteen was kind of a long day for for va but it's of enrolling now. I think it's a good good philosophy. Given the type of people that we encounter skip. That's one of the things that really strikes me. In particular about all law enforcement of course. Because eventually you're all in that situation but in particular the marshalls and the DA seemed to hit houses with warrants and that search warrants and arrest warrants for the most dangerous kind of people and that can be an always. It seems a very high risk situation. So you guys are really putting yourselves on the line on a daily basis and I would agree in when I was with marshalls. We had a less active wars squad at the time we mainly went after probation and Parole. Violators the marshals to some extent. Reinvented themselves and then. They built these task force where they execute a lot of state warrants. We involved in the one that was worth homicide now. They have a much more dangerous job. I believe that I was there. Because of the type of cases they get involved they react. Latisha tasted they've got a good technical unit where they tracked phones and they're very adept at that. They're very good at that at the time. I wasn't satisfied so speak with the marshals. I wanted a little more coming from police. Officers used to the action daily and nightly so I sat back and watched At marshalls all discourse was bringing in the prisoners. All the time and I noticed. Da was bringing in and in order amount of prisoners Followed by probably the FBI. But I decided that this drug war was in full swing bottling Escobar was obligated number one in the late eighties and Beckton and I sent plus jumped ship. And that's what I did actually applaud with. Fbi in the net interviews both but in the In the end up taking the because the relatively showed me that I would come back to my hotel. That's cool yeah and that is something that with the FBI. The process takes longer. It's it's a little more of a bureaucracy and so it can be very difficult that whole hiring process but also they do like to send you to another area other than from where you came and the one exception to that was New York City. They couldn't keep agents in New York City. So if you came from New York they'd let you go to New York and what was good about that was I got to go home when I joined the FBI. But they gave every other agent that came from outside of New York. Twenty five thousand dollar bonus but the people who because it's so expensive there but the people there who already have been dealing with the expensive they don't get anything. It was really weird. It was really weird government. Yeah but New Orleans. I did get to spend a little time there. Which is why I call it New Orleans now instead of New Orleans. The ancient is downright impressive. What do you think skept? We call it New Orleans. Thought it was in our northern ignorance. Yes I admitted it Francey. Thank you Jim but I spent a you know not not a huge amount of time but a fairly significant amount of time you know not only did we have some serial killers that were operating there a lot of home at the same time in that area in Baton Rouge area but I also got to shoot a movie down there my post retirement from the FBI. And I really really enjoy that town. It's not just the French quarter seen Charles Street. It's just it's just. I duNNo. It's epic. I love that street. I would go up and down the street. I started running down that street. You know because just look at the houses every day but the fact that you were in New Orleans. Which is you know. Some people wouldn't consider it this but you know it's basically a border town. I mean you know and any border town is going to be a major drug destination. Will it is. I mean he's definitely going to be some kind of a hub and so what? I'm hoping today skip is that. I'm hoping you're gonNA tell us some sort of a tale of crime and intrigue and Mystery. And Bananas Because I into Cafe Du Monde I am not ashamed to admit that when my husband and I went there a few months ago I was in town for a conference. I didn't know you then skipper. I definitely would have dropped by. I ate more than my share. I mean I definitely did the tourist thing in a way more benes than is healthy or even seems possible looking back on it so I hope your tail is going to involve all of those elements. So let's just sort of jump in. Do you have a case that you've been thinking about talking about today in this case involves the similar cartel? Y'All everyone knows I love true crime. One of the best things about it is it the further you dig into a story the more layers you uncover. That's what I love the best about the puzzle game best fiends. The more I play the more fun at seems to get every time I reach a new level I uncover a new layer in a new story and I get to take part in that story. The best part of it though is that the longer you play the more exciting it gets. My strategy has changed now. They've been playing best fiends for awhile. I love the scenes. I love the slugs all the colors and the design all the different events and the levels. My friends and family are now addicted. We all play together. I've gotten many people hooked on best fiends and maybe it comes out in my competitive spirit. Okay I admit it. Best beans updates the game monthly with new levels and events so it never gets old and it treats the game like a service for their players. It doesn't require the Internet to place. You don't need to worry about having WIFI access. You're using sell data. They're always new monthly themed challenges that make my brain work in ways. I almost forgot it could best. Fiennes has thousands of levels already with new levels events and characters at at every month. It's hours of fun right at your fingertips you can even play off line over one hundred million downloads and tons of five star reviews. Best beans is a must play download. Best means free on the apple APP store or Google play. That's friends without the our best feeds so skip. Where were you in your career with a particular case? You'RE GONNA talk to us about occurred. Who is the late? Nineteen Ninety S and early two. Thousands of this case happened. I was just finished up a huge investigation. Were we indicted guy on multiple multiple murders. I still had some fragments remnants of that case that was trying to finish this guy. That'll finish the case. Is it was Richard Heinous? They called him the Cuban on the street because of all his eerie similarity twos Al Pacino. In the hit movie scarf six finishing up case and really had no plans on doing anything else anytime soon but to wrap that up when an informant called. It was a female informants. She was a stripper down in the Fridge. Score and she says I've got a guy that bring in drugs here. That is bigger than the guy that's been in the papers referring to Risher paint. Course I didn't believe her so kind of brushed raw brusher all filing with going unbeaten with a girl and she had a friend that was and with a Mexican guy down in court and the Mexican guy was supplying all the strip clubs all the workers in the industries down there at the bars and the restaurants and so forth. So we started talking. Debriefing debriefing. Her I'm sorry. We decided that we were gonNA use her to make a buy from Denver to make a Boston another strip so we made a couple buys. We kinda worked herself up the ladder and we identified a guy by the name of Osborne tested before we talk about anymore. Into the case. Could you explain to our listeners? You say you were GONNA make a by from one person to another What does that entail has at work? So we had the STRIPPER INFORMANT. Who is willing to work on our behalf and what we did was. We made a couple recorded phone calls with her to the other stripper. That was living with this Mexican source. She called in. Ask The buy some cocaine. So the girl agreed. We wired up our informant the stripper. We gave her money and we sent her over there where she bought cocaine from Earth. Strip friend while the Mexican guy that was a source sat in the back room so she was an essential issue format as use an active informant where she participated in the buys. We couldn't send anyone with her because the guy was paranoid about anyone. He didn't know typical in the dope. Game being another informant or being on a police officer so met a couple of purchases of cocaine from this girl S. What got us on track watching the Mexican guy in the in the back and what kind of like what sort of a mountain you're talking about. And how do you pay for that? I mean how does that work. These were small amounts like a quarter also half Elsa crack you gotta remember strippers traditionally. Don't buy a whole lot of cocaine. There is for personal. Use mainly so to go in there and ask for a Kilo. Cocaine would be so out of the ordinary that was similar to we bought like a quarter ounce a half hours just intel just by to try to figure out who was in the house where they went afterwards to follow them around to see who they met with and just try to start an investigation and against who all's involved again a house halfheartedly end to it because I was finishing up this other investigation but it started to catch steam when we saw the Mexican guy the next day. When we'RE GONNA send out on bail on him go out to neurons eased in me with a series of guys that we knew were well known drug traffickers area. So I have a question you know as I've unfortunately constantly seen in Hollywood when they depict drug investigations and it goes all the way back in my memory to Miami vice where they would make a by and they would take a switchblade and stick it in and they tasted and say oh this is eighty five percent pure Columbia. Can you please talk to us? About how ridiculous. That is and what you really do. It's on the head that's absolutely ridiculous. We will never do that. What happens afterwards? Usually package in a little baggie. We opened the baggy. We have these little small drug. Id KISSES CALLED FIELD TESTS. Knit kits and you take a little bit out with a knife or something you put in there. And you pop these series of amps and if his cocaine turns up a bluish color this heroine might be a maroon. Color that identifies a drug but before going to make the by you obviously have good idea of what you buy and so you have the kiss all available but you have a kid that you know most likely what you're supposed to buy in this kind of gesture that drug right and that's a field test and then once that turns positive then you put it into evidence and where does it go. We ship it to the degray. Labs were The New Orleans division euro area that the labs in Dallas Texas and then they do the chemical actual real test of the cocaine or whatever substances allowed a lab reports on drugs. They're very boring. It's not nearly as exciting gem as watching the the hero take a nice little cocaine and taste it. Which is the right thing to do because Kim cocaine with with any kind of rat poison or stuff that could kill you ever do they but also you're not allowed to actually do drugs right when you were. Da Unless you get at Doj exemption in advance right correct so if you were to actually ingest some of these drugs especially not knowing exactly what it is not only would you risk getting very sick or dying but certainly lose your job right as absolutely true and you know I've seen situations where undercover agent has been with a couple of drug traffickers and they asked him or her to try the drugs and is typically. The undercover agent has some well story ahead of time such as. I work shortly test me every time I go out. I'm on probation. I can't you know I'm just doing it to make some money is come to the point before when we've had an Asia who wouldn't try drugs that shut down the deal and the dealer wouldn't sell to them for that very reason because you went dry. It's so he assumed that he was the police and he was right. All right so sorry. I interrupted you to ask all sorts of questions. But that's how we do things here at best case worst case because we take our listeners behind police lines and we WANNA know so. You've got this big murder cases multiple murder case that you're trying to clear up and you discover in this kind of Lewd Surveillance. Doing on a maybe. This case will be something but probably not think but suddenly you find that the Mexican contact is going and seeing people that you do recognize. So then what happens? New Orleans is a big small city. It's most of the traffickers bigger drug dealers in that area. If you've been an Asian around there are well known to the DA or to the FBI or any ats so when his Mexican Guy who's unidentified at times starting making trips around New Orleans in talking to drug dealers zip auto shops dachary shops in different places? We knew that we were onto south here. Just coincidentally it was about a week later after doing surveillance on him that we get a call from Jefferson Davis Sheriff's off. They had pulled over guy and when they pulled him over they went through their phones and they found a couple of phone numbers of guys that he was calling in New Orleans. They send it through the local. Da Office and it came back on the case. I had done with the Mexican guy here when they searched the car that the Mexican guys were in. Jefferson Davis Pairs. They found a bunch of drugs in fifteen kilos of cocaine in hidden compartments. So the Mexican guys that had been hold over agreed to follow through and do a controlled. Delivery of the cocaine in a controlled. Delivery is when someone gets Paul or pulled over on interstate with drugs. They decided that point. They're going to cooperate with the law enforcement. You see that guy and they're going to take that drug to its ultimate destination. And they're going to go through with delivering it to the person that is supposed to be receiving it and when that happens in law enforcement. Easley's whoops in and arrest the gathers receive the drugs. Well that's exactly what happened here. The two Mexican guys agreed to deliver it to New Orleans. The only problem was the Mexican guy that we had under surveillance at. That point wasn't going out to get it. He had one of the drug dealers that we were watching was going to do the dirty work for him so they showed up with the Bronco. The two deals that were cooperating. Investing guys and old the hotel parking lot we song go meet with a dealer that we knew dealer bug name. Austin Cast Osman got the keys and then the two dealers left the two Mexicans left in a cab which we'd already prearranged and we went. Put THEM ON ICE. We set up that night in waited on Osborne to go remove the drugs out the car. Eventually under when he turned dark he went out and with another guy. They went underneath it. The cocaine was in the gas tanks and one of the problems of this organization. Is They had a bronco? Wish they'd get good gas mileage again with right so they were having to fill up like every hundred five miles and so they had carefully chart everywhere they went because the the the gas tank compartment took up the majority of the room or the gas would a bet so when casten and his when co-conspirator went out unless the coke we've pulled up and arrested him before you continue to have a question so you mentioned that there were fifteen kilos. We have listeners. From all over the world who listen to this podcast I think probably many of them don't know how large a kilo is. So can you describe its overall physical size? We have some idea. A kilo is like a flat brick object. Obviously two point two pounds as two thousand coke so in other words debt. That answer so that we were going to buy that we bought from the stripper informant there. Thirty six ounces in a kilo gram of coke so fifteen kilos is thirty something thirty four pounds. Whatever pure cocaine at the time I believe is going around twenty three twenty four thousand a kilo. So that's not Jim. You're the math guy that seems like a lot of money. Well it's more than a dollar and less than three million to you know. Thank you John where I know. Because that's the kind of level of math you have in your brain so out true sadly so when you said these guys agreed to do controlled sale right. I failing you skipped over a lot of really intense negotiations there. Could you please Philipson? So what happened was when they got pulled over first. They denied not having any cocaine. We went to go through all the usual stuff. They denied tonight. Neither Canine dog came out in alerted on the car. Eventually one guy started cooperating under threat of going to jail and he says yes I will take the dope I will take the drugs and deliver it to this guy. I have a phone number of a guy in New Orleans. What we didn't know at that time was this. Bronco was one of many that this drug organization INVESCO will use them and he didn't the Guy We rested and tells the whole story. That Bronco was on certain schedule. It had to be there at a certain time because once it stopped and unloaded in New Orleans. They loaded the cash up. That next one was going back to. Mexico in Mexico was not leaving the come to New Orleans so they would pass each other on the way. See You got literal. Someone doing logistics legitimately logistics going on in these drug organizations where they're tracking and timing things so that they know if someone's been intercepted for those so when we got the drugs on our end the guy wouldn't cooperate. I The guy that we already had in custody. He told us you need to get the money and get it headed back to Mexico. Because they're going to be calling me. They're expecting call from me. I'm like we're not paying for this right. I mean he sees the drugs certainly pay twenty three twenty four thousand dollars a kilo for fifteen kilos to send back to. Mexico just wasn't gonNA happen so we had him make a couple phone calls to the Mexican source who was in the way. Will the radio. Mexico recorded them of course and at that point. We just assumed we had arrested. The bad guys investigation was over. It was GONNA to be some small follow-up where we look at the phones and try to debris from an interview on but for the most far that investigation was our was raw. Yeah Oh jen I really want to hear more about this story. Don't you I do too? I can't wait to hear the rest of the historic because it's very intriguing and I'm sure that we've only scratched the surface of how deep this is going to go as correct skip. This is an amazing story. And we can't wait to hear the rest of it and we will when we come back next time and until. Then thank you for being your skipped into our listeners. Thank you for listening to skis. Worst-case signing off

New Orleans cocaine FBI Florida New York City A. Da Drug Enforcement Administratio Jim baseball New Orleans Louisiana officer Pittsburgh Pirates Madison Dash Reed Dot Com Madison supervisor Kim Jim Committee
MLB Catastrophe?

PTI

25:06 min | 9 months ago

MLB Catastrophe?

"Today answers matter more than ever before. That's why IBM is helping. Businesses manage customer questions with Watson Assistant. It's conversational AI designed to work for any industry. Let's put smart to work. Visit IBM, Dot Com. Slash Watson Assistant. But I'm Mike Will Tony Bondage. Studio in Berlin can reopen as long as everyone whereas masks. I'm Tony Kornheiser no problem I've always worn a mask there. It's leather covers my whole head in the back. Sometimes even wear a leash well the time. You know, forgive me. I'm not I. Don't want be to just middle, but I've never been a bondage guy. You Know Barroux issue. No, I leather. ooh! Worried about eleven other than the front seats in my car. Yeah Watch the movie pulp fiction. You'll see how it's done I remember it seems in poker, riverboat. Gracie old man and his own addict this day, one hundred and one in today's episode, the jets train Jamal Adams to the Seahawks, the Knicks victims and Alex. Smith says he is ready to play again. But we begin with baseball and the ripples from a positive test for corona virus that have so far claimed eleven, players and two coaches on. The Miami Marlins the Marlins home opener tonight against the Orioles has been postponed and the phillies. Yankees game in Philadelphia has been postponed presumably to keep the Yankees off of the visitor's clubhouse where the marlins were over the weekend. We'll on. What does this mean for baseball? Tony is not the worst case scenario, but it's a step in that direction. And it. Is that potentially because you're looking at disaster here? If it gets worse if you have more players, I test positive. If you have teams with multiple players at this starts a situation in baseball. Get under control then you're looking at the worst possible case, scenario and Tony. You know there's so much we still don't know about the virus how you contract it to the degree to which people suffer and that and baseball is having to. To deal with all of this while trying to plant a season, not in a bubble, but we're players. Go wherever they go after they leave the Ballpark, and this is what you and I have been shaking our heads and worried about for months while how can you have this without a bubble with so many factors? You cannot control and now we're just sitting back Tony just. To See Baseball's reaction and how that spreads to other sports. Yeah well, even if you have a bubble, some guy gets out and says I WANNA. Go to a strip club in order some takeout food. So even if you have the bubble, it doesn't necessarily work, but baseball and football don't have the bubble. I have to say that. When I heard this today, my first reaction was. It has been such bliss from me to watch baseball the last four days. I have been so happy, but you and I both said a thousand times they can start. The season doesn't mean they're going to finish the season. In this particular case you have to your first priority has to be the health and safety of the players in the staff and I understand that, but then you have to ask yourself about the integrity of the season. Season what if the team? What if this goes through team? And I don't think it will only be the MARLINS. It goes to a team and you. You get quarantine and you miss ten or twelve games. How do you make up the Games? It's a sixty game season with almost no days off. I mean that that's what you think of. What do they do if this happens with regularity Tony the integrity of the season is secondary. It is to the health and safety of the players in Davos. Safety I know but I don't even think of the integrity. The season you play with you play and use percentages to determine. Perhaps you order a Finnish who goes to the. Yeah everybody does the same amount in games. No, you can't go on forever. No, you don't and that Tony, had no, you. Don't you try to get the sees it in as best you can, and that's what we're. Here whatever it is whatever you WANNA. Call it this competition. You have some age you get it engineers older. The playoffs outweigh. Go to the playoffs if there's an unequal amount of games in a sense in eight hundred. Tony. They did it when they had US shortened season. In a in a sense, this can work out because the marlins playing the Oreos two week. Teams is not a threat to the playoffs necessarily. And the Western teams in the Mid Western teams are not affected. Because you play in your own time zone, you go up and down in your own time zone, but like I. Think you gotTa. Make them up. I think you have to have doubleheaders I think you have to try everything you can to have an even amount of now. Zone, that's not even A. Even a third or fifth or ninth consideration for me, but let me just doesn't play sixty and in your mind, somebody can play forty one and it's OK, not forty-one. They might have to play fifty one. They play a different numbers games now and teams don't make up games at the end. It's only one or two in a one sixty two, but it's still a different number. Real. Quick Thursday. If you you involved, you have to have even. You don't what why do we read? We disagree we disagree. We disagree, but here's something we may agree on I. Don't know what what is. What does it say about college sports on deck to start their training in college football? If you got professionals, people paid million dollars and you can say to them. Here's what we gotta do hot. Can you say that the kids who move into their dorms fairly soon with other students who may or may not test positive? What does this mean for everybody else? They've all got to be looking at a baseball and right now. Tony at this moment. Maybe you'll get more encouraging right now. Be Scared to death. Let's move to the NFL with the jets traded all pro safety Jamal Adams to the seahawks for two first and a third Adams had already ask for trade, but last week up the pressure by being critical of jets owner Woody Johnson and head coach Adam Gates tone. Who Wins this deal in your mind? Well, the jets don't win the deal. The the jets the jets have just gotten rid of two time all pro player. Yes, they get to number one picks which is wonderful, but this kid. Adams was the number six overall. Pick their likely because Seattle is a good team to get picks in the twenty S. they're going to be lucky to get one guy as good as atoms so in terms of the strict win or loss, Seattle wins this. The Legion of boom is gone. Sherman is gone. Thomas they're all. They have to rebuild their defense and bank. On the fact that Russell Wilson has productive prime years left they they win because they're in the most competitive I believe division all the football with the seahawks, the rams, the forty niners and a car getting better. This is the right trade for them. Mike, they win. I, think so Tony. Love you rebuilding! You could take the tax that we can draft. We trust our scouting department. We can use those picks and we can draft. Players will become as good as Jamal Adams. Almost as early as he has or or ends early as he did, wait a minute. Oh, listen to. Make every single safety like our dear friend who cover football. The most important player says night train lane. 'cause it always last year. He's all pro two years. Yes, Chelsea ready, but he's in his third year. So why couldn't Seattle draft players like that? Or why can't the jets? WHO's drafting department? Do you trust more? Let me just say this. He's a safe. Why doesn't he thought a real kweskin? Drafting Department to trust more. Yes, Seattle we do. Know but did Seattle. Better get better at that he's a safety doesn't cover a hybrid a safety linebacker who's got twelve sacks, which is a lot from that position, but only two interceptions which ain't much from that position, but does he i? Don't know how to cultivate these players, and so once again. He's talent. We're talking about development, and if you don't trust the jets to draft and develop, and what the hell, you're saying the matter what they had. No it doesn't no. They are a perpetual three in thirteen, the three and thirteen look the jets and the Knicks we're gonNA. Get to in a second of your teams. Stink, and all both of them do is churn up coaches all the time. They are the new. York jets are always three years away, so i WanNa talk about the new. York jets Seattle knows what it's doing. Anna shown. It knows what it's doing in terms of this kid atoms. Okay. Maybe he's not as important as as a standalone corner. Maybe he's not, but he's a weapon on defense. and Seattle's in eleven and five team. They're going forward. Let's move to the Knicks. That's a great New York. New York. Knicks are reportedly finalizing a five year deal with Tom. thebault to become their coach. The Knicks are pathetic. There were twenty one and forty five this season. They missed the playoffs for the seventh straight year seven. Wilpon do really expect to succeed. Tony Scene. It's almost with grading on the curve with the Knicks. Right I mean so. Go to what what does succeed me they if they finish the playoffs, okay, if they finish face, that's not exactly winning anything. That's great and on the curve because they've been so pathetic for so long I. Sort of think Tim's could get them near five hundred, although I don't know how, because looking at their roster like you just did. Before we went on the air, we look the Rosser both concluded. There were two players if we wanted to players and so. Tim Can change the culture there to a degree, but this is ownership, and we deal with this with the Washington football team, and now we've got the New York, basketball team, and they got a similar situation with an owner in a culture that we all feel is been toxic for years, so is Tim's GonNa win a championship with these neil now. No now look. He's a very good coach. They have no players. You can't win in that league without players. Stay with me. I wrote stuff down. I'm going to read it since van. Gundy left eleven coaches in eighteen years. Don Cheney one full season Lenny, Wilkins not a full season Larry Brown. Brown a full season there hall of fame guys they couldn't succeed is am Thomas two full seasons, but he already to GM, so he doesn't Count Mike and Tony Three four Mike Woodson to full Derek, Fisher, one full Kurt Rambis, not a full season. Jeff Hornacek full seasons. You Boy Phys one full season, Mike Miller finishes it out. Only one guy went three four. There's no continuity. Accept ownership none. Okay. That's the problem there. That doesn't work so when you say they can dibitetto succeed to a degree, but they don't create. You'd see they're supposedly. Nobody goes. They stink. Let's take a break. I hate saying that I love you in A. Good mood. Alex Smith his doctors have cleared him to play football, but will Washington great. Later Justin verlander says he's not out for the season. But chemistry count on him returning. My Baseball's. You gotTA play the same amount of game they saw. Kim have no layoffs. No, don't. Play when it wants, and they will not what you want. It's window. Amount. They don't do that. Even though it's only summer, it feels like we've already run twelve back to back marathons. And when it comes to hiring just like in a real marathon, the most important step is the next one indeed is here to help. INDEED DOT COM is the number job site in the world, because indeed gets you the best people fast unlike other sites indeed gives you full control and payment flexibility over your hiring. You only pay for what you need. You can pause your account at any. I and there no long term contracts, plus indeed provides powerful tools to make your search that much easier like sponsored jobs, which are shown to be three and a half times more likely to result in a higher with seventy three percent of online job seekers visiting indeed each month indeed is going to give you the important hire you need just like the half for over three million businesses right now indeed is offering our listeners a free seventy five dollars credit to boost your job post, which means more quality candidates will see it fast trying to eat out with a free seventy five dollars credit at indeed dot com slash. This is their best offer available anywhere. Go Right now. DO INDEED DOT com slash PTI terms, and conditions apply offer valid through September thirtieth. When you need your bank capital one is right in the palm of your hand, so you can check your balance deposit checks pay bills and transfer money from your phone with a top rated APP and when you're done banking, but back in your pocket, a banking experience built around you and your life. This is banking reimagined. Get started online anytime. What's in your Wallet Capital One and a member FDIC? We've got one more headlines to discuss, and it centers on the remarkable recovery by Alex Smith The Washington football team quarterback suffered a compound leg fracture in November of two thousand eighteen that led to seventeen surgeries seventeen. He's now been cleared to play by his own doctors and awaits word from Washington's. We'll find your thoughts on Smith's Comeback Attempt, you know I have long been a fan of Alex Smith when he was in college. Tony I've loved him I. was my team had since enough to somewhere along the way get Alex? Smith and Tony His record since twenty. Is Remarkable I. Mean This guy's one a lot of games I know is not been a super bowl or won a championship. He didn't have any rings I get that, but I've I've run into Alex Smith. I root for him. You and I have gone through this with the Washington football team in the previous generation to generation earlier when Joe Theismann this similar. Similar injury and never took a snap in the NFL and we know join a been around Joe. You worked with Joey play golf with Joe, yes, we knew he was never coming back. I hope Alex Smith. Can that's all I can be as hopeful. Tony I root for him in this situation, I don't know what the team is gonNA, decide down the road. So I don't think he will ever play for Washington again. I don't even know that he ever will play again. because seventeen surgeries is remarkable, and as you say, we reference Joe Thighs men who wanted to play and could never come back. I think Washington's doctors will not clear him offer him a settlement, so he doesn't kill them on the cap and say you're free to go wherever you want to go. If you can go somewhere and I think if that happens, it'll be terrible. Pr Hit for Washington which terrible. Our hits all the time because they're going to be depriving chance to play. Let's go to the record that you talked about. Since two thousand and ten, his record as a starter, is seventy, five, thirty five in one house. That is that good. He's got a hundred forty two touchdowns and forty eight interceptions. He never had more again. Interceptions in a year that's Jameis Winston by lunch is eight interceptions Dwayne Haskins may be good in the future, but. But he is not now a neither carlisle and as good as Alex. Smith would be if he were healthy if he were in fact healthy, and plus he could teach them Mike. He Has Inter Patrick Mahomes him around yes. Yes, by the way what your backup. Maybe he could be your back. Oh, I mean I, Alex. Smith, you know what Tony He's been almost disparaged, even though the phrase itself is not disparaging game manager as if that's. How damning somebody to Hell Tacoma game manager, but those numbers that you cited tone and three two games winning two games. He's wave of the game manager and he's a great teammate, and everybody loves him everywhere. He goes, and it was seemed like he has this kind of human resource. You would want in a locker room. He was six and four is the starter in Washington. Nobody recently has been a winning record. It would be the most remarkable comeback, but I'm not sure it's going to happen. Let's take one last SPRAGUE's. Where's Shohei Ohtani terrible start Lebron James. We'll leave you to answer that when Mr Shohei cheerleader, and where does of Williams's tripped magic city? Leave the clippers. Well, it leaves Lou at least with some food. 'cause everybody goes there for takeout food wings. Everybody I've been there for that. All stopping you have nine. Food from Strip clubs. I'm telling you the answer and nothing. But the has. So something can get to your brain. Did you know GEICO's now offering an extra fifteen percent credit on car and motorcycle policies. That's fifteen percent on top of what Gyco could already save you. So, what are you waiting for your baby to let you sleep in? Sleeping another half hour. Thanks Sweetheart. And you'll change yourself to. Never been a better time to switch to GEICO. Save an extra fifteen percent when you switch by October seventh limitations apply visit GEICO DOT COM for details. Did you know GEICO's now offering an extra fifteen percent credit on car and motorcycle policies. That's fifteen percent on top of what Gyco could already save you. So what are you waiting for your teenager to help around the house? Okay? I empty the dishwasher vacuum, the basement and full of the sheets out of the dryer what? Next I'M GONNA Clean Mittens litterbox in some kind of prank, show or something. That's a camera is a net. There's never been a better time to switch gyco save an extra fifteen percent. When you switch by Tober, seventh limitations apply visit GEICO DOT COM for details. A. Time people happy thirty. Second Birthday Ryan Tannehill of Boston Miami, Bonanza in Tennessee Tannehill was drafted number eight overall by the dolphins in two thousand twelve out of Texas A, and you've played six seasons in Miami and played for five different offensive coordinators and three different head coaches. This lack of continuity had to be a contributing factor to Tamils, forty two and forty six record, and his rather ordinary numbers, including one hundred twenty three touchdowns and seventy five interceptions Miami traded China Hilton Tennessee in two thousand and nineteen for to low round draft picks. Tannehill was expected to sit on the. The bench and watch Marcus Mariota play, but Mariota Falter, and once Tannehill got on the field. There was no point taking him off. He went seven three as a starter in the regular season, two and one in the playoffs losing to Kansas City in the AFC. Championship Game Tannahill led the League and passer rating to twenty two touchdowns, six interceptions completed seventy point three percent of his passes. One Comeback Player of the year made the pro bowl, and he got rich. He signed a four year deal worth up to one hundred eighteen million dollars, and in Nashville, that's Taylor swift money. I got two words for you, and for him Derrick Henry all right. Tannehill was a number one play action pass in the League. Hello, that means he's dependent on having a fake hand off to a guy who's all home run threat and devastating physically two opposing defenses aright Derrick Henry thank you very much. At the anniversary Jose. On This Day twenty two years ago, the pirates rightfielder uncorked guided missile and the thin air of Colorado to Rob Rocky Sitter Navy Peres of a triple. The ball goes off the law over he ends glove and he picks it up on the warning track as he throws it, you hear the announcers explain look that throw from right to throw his perfect. We can all think of great even iconic throws. Ichiro made a few Willie. Willie mays made a few Vlad Guerrero Dwight Evans, but over the years pirates right fielders made more than their share. I was the Great Roberto Clemente running on him. Was Baseball suicide later? There was Dave Parker. These guys had hoses. The throw to home is the most exciting play in baseball because there's always a run involved, but the hardest throw is from right field to third, and you can't do it any better than did. No you can't Tony and watching those pirates do that. It's amazing that one franchise could have multiple people to them as a kid, a little kid Roberto. CLEMENTI was synonymous with right-field arm. But you know the older. I got mandate. Parker Tony as you mentioned he through so many folks from out there was amazing. An, a melancholy trails to Regis Philbin. We just died over the weekend a month shy of his eighty ninth birthday. He lived a glorious life in television. He was on TV more than anybody ever. He started the nineteen sixties getting a break when he was the second banana to Joey Bishop late night. Talk show that show didn't last, but regis did if he did not invent morning TV talk, he perfected it his shows with Kathy Lee Gifford and Kelly. RIPA were huge hits. People looked at regis as a kind of every man who found himself in a glamorous situation. Situation and struggled to keep his feet on the ground. In the early two thousands, he was picked to host who wants to be a millionaire which became a runaway hit. Everyone saw how he asked. Is Your final answer as if he was rooting for the answer to be right in a word, Regis Philbin was relatable and on a personal note. He loved this show and we loved him. He watched us all the time talking about PTI on his own show. He did five good minutes on our show in two thousand and eight, and they were five great minutes. Yeah. He didn't just watch US I. Mean He gave us advice at the very beginning? Tony knows he was encouraging. He was supporting. The four lions of television who really helped launched his show Maury Povich Larry King Regis Philbin and Bryant Gumbel. Did I get that right? Tony a regis. For us all the time, we miss him absolutely right and we'll bond. You've got an omission. Tony I do have an admission always different kyrie irving for do something I don't like. He contributed whereas committed one point five million dollars a WNBA. Mba salaries of women who opted not to play this season one point five million dollars, good for Kyri and good for the women at us. Go to the big finish. Let's do justin girl lender has a forearm strain, but disputes a report that he's done for the season. Your thoughts man. He's a tough Oh do in addition to being hooper talented I hope you'll be back. Think you'll be back because he says so Shohei. ohtani did not reporting out in his first start for the angels concern to you. Well. He's coming off Tommy John Surgery. Look at this happens second time. I'd be very concerned. We're going to give them one pay us here forty-year-old Nelson Cruz when four for five with two doubles two homers, seven Rbi four runs against the white sox. That's a big deal, isn't it? Yes I'm a cubs fan who's rooting for the white sox. Rooting for the South side is you can't give up twenty seven runs in three games. Where are you guys? Come on now. COYOTES GM John Shaikha quit one week before the Stanley Cup qualifiers. Tone your thoughts. You can't do that you the GM. They're about to go into the plan. No, you can't quit on the way to weaken the help when they get eliminated last one rule Williams. Young. Magic City Lynn appropriate is. Quarantine appropriate. It is you're out. You've gotta come back. You gotTa have negative. Negative, negative negative. That's the deal. On son try to do better. The next time I'm Tony Kornheiser I'm Mike Wilpon same time to? Get the podcast on the APP or Apple? GEICO. Access to licensed agents twenty four seven, which means that Geico is always there for you. If only everyone was always there for you, like your mom when you fill out really really important paperwork on the first day of a new job name, check birthday security thing. Hey, what is my social security number? Mom Mom? Okay let's. Zero Zero, one seven German I hashtag Geico always there for you with savings and twenty four seven access to licensed agents.

baseball Parker Tony Alex Smith jets Knicks football Washington GEICO Tony Kornheiser Jamal Adams Miami Marlins Seattle Tony I Mike Tony He Tony Bondage Seahawks League Justin verlander GM
Mariners Play-By-Play Announcer Dave Sims on Perfect Games and No-Hitters, Home Run Calls, Griffey

Baseball Tonight with Buster Olney

40:24 min | 1 year ago

Mariners Play-By-Play Announcer Dave Sims on Perfect Games and No-Hitters, Home Run Calls, Griffey

"Baseball tonight the PODCAST. This the baseball tonight podcasts or Monday may two thousand twenty producing from his Home Studios Beautiful Home Studio which he tweeted a picture of over the weekend Taylor swing. I'm buster only hosted the baseball tonight podcast and working for my home studio just north of New York City now today as we continue with broadcaster week from last week we'll be talking with Dave Sims. The play by play man for the Seattle Mariners. It'll be asking him about his signature. Home run calls nets conversations. Were also going to have with Sarah. Lines about the best signature home run calls in baseball. I The news and notes. Some good news for Ra Major League Baseball player and Manager Art. Howe was released from a hospital in Houston on Sunday after spending time in intensive care last week with the corona virus. He told multiple media. Let's in text relief back in my own bedroom. It's sweet it was five long days or so finally feeling a little bit better still not able to eat real good taste buds or giving me a hard time. It's just nice to be back home and hopefully continue to progress. Some of the proposed protocol key player safe as published over the weekend by Jeff PASSAN ON ESPN DOT COM. As he rode Major League baseball ambitious return to play plans during the corona virus pandemic include processing upward of ten thousand cove in nineteen tests per week overhauling stadiums in in game settings to encourage social distancing and rigorous rules intended to prevent the spread of Kobe nineteen. The protocol is more than sixty pages. Long from the Associated Press League baseball players they're prorated salaries would contribute to an average loss of six hundred and forty thousand dollars for each game over eighty two game season in empty ballpark's according to a presentation from the Commissioner's Office to the Union that was obtained by the Associated Press painting a picture of eighteen ten billion dollar industries. Shuttered by the contagion. The twelve page document entitled Economics Applying Without Fans in attendance in dated May. Twelfth was an initial step in negotiations aimed at starting the delayed season around the fourth of July. I wrote a column over. The weekend was published on Sunday on. Espn DOT COM. That I feel like the unions should think big picture right now. It has leveraged right in this moment and they should wrap any agreement for two thousand twenty into a new labor deal. Of course the current deal expires in December of two thousand twenty one and that New Labour Day would address player concerns about Free Agency Service Time Service time manipulation and tanking now Will be talking about that later in the week today as they say a lot of talk about broadcaster home run calls before we get to Dave Sims into Sarah. Today on ESPN daily Michael Jordan's relentless drive and work ethic are constant themes in the last dance right Thompson looks for the roots of that greatness in Jordan's family history in his upbringing that's ESPN daily. Subscribe wherever you get your podcast numbers. Game Lang reporter and a producer for MLB DOT com of how you doing. I'm doing you know and just we had some nice weather this weekend. You know that's something you know. We take what we can get these days right. Yeah it's absolutely beautiful up here. In the northeast it's supposed to be for the next few days So over the weekend Japan reported the exhausted protocol. Sixty seven pages that came from Major League Baseball sent to the Players Association. And I'm sure that for some players reading that it'll be somewhat daunting but my first thought when I read it. Was You know what to this point? A lot of the people who are involved in generating this or the doctors and the lawyers in everyone's GonNa feel like they need check every box and do their job. What do you think I just think? They're so many so many considerations and I think we see that from what we've heard and seen about different states trying to open up and everything else and obviously for a a world like Major League Baseball Micro Environment. Whatever it is they do have to consider everything. And I definitely think that's why you get lists that are exhausted like that. All right coming up. We're going to be talking with Dave Sims the play by play man for the Seattle Mariners. And I'M GONNA be asking him about his signature home run calls in other words the homerun calls it. He'll use repeatedly not like the the one that Joe Buck Jackpot cad when he called Kirk Gibson's home run in the nineteen hundred eight world series. Where he says. I cannot believe what I just saw. this is these are the calls that broadcasters make on a regular basis on home runs and I sent an email on Sunday evening about this and it got me. Going and thinking about you know the different homerun calls. They were here. And there's so many great ones and must be like John. Sterling needs to have a category. Holtom sell those individualized home run calls that he made Here's Dave Niehaus. The late mariners broadcaster with how he called Grand Slams. Give a lesson and now the right hander said. Here's to pitch to Edgar Swung on this year. Anthony the Yankees. Here's Hawk Harrelson's Homerun call volume high and even less than feel strikes stinks back he jumps. You can put it. Oh here's our friend Wayne Kuyper and I love the power in his home. Run Call and Sarah I know. You'll like Gary Cohen. Some run call on the midst broadcast What are some of those home? Run CALLS AT JUMP TO MIND for you. Yes the first one I thought was doing kuypers. And maybe it's because I was catching up on the PODCASTS. This weekend so I was just hearing his voice he was talking to you and todd. But that's the one that likes sticks out to me the most for whatever reason. Maybe it's almost that I've heard Gary Cohen so many times that I'm so used to but that he hits it high it's a deep it out of here and what you're saying about that power. I mean I I think of that all the time some other ones other than those ones. We just listened to another one that came to mind to me Pretty quickly was and I got to hear it live. I will say that but I know it and I looked it up and I've listened to it so many times is Jack. Brickhouse for the cubs. Because you've got the hey. Hey on the owls there. And that's how I learned about. It was the first time I went to Wrigley Field and I saw that and I was like why I need to look up why it says that on the foul call so I love that one go absolutely when I was a kid The the Monday night baseball games were called by the PIRATES ANNOUNCER. Bob Prince so I'm eleven twelve years old and I am pitching whippable to myself because we lived in the middle of nowhere in Vermont and there were no their kids around so I pitched myself with a ball and I tried to hit this. Hit whipple's over chicken wire when I could I would get home. Run calls a Bob Prints. Did I'm not going to try to replicate but along the lines of you can kiss that one goodbye and all my God. My older sister she actually caught me on an audiotape. Doing that and I paid so much money for her not to release it to the rest of my family. My older sister is evil with that. You know having that home. Run call in her back pocket. I I've been trying to figure out whether or not we should rank these Sarah. Maybe I can double back with you and ask you for your top five next Monday or something like that but on the other hand it's almost like trying to compare Michael Jordan. Lebron like it almost diminishes both of them to have that conversation. Yeah honestly going through them you know last night and this morning trying to figure out some other ones to talk about their also great you know and fans are always saying Oh. I don't like this one. I don't like that one and that's usually coming from. Oh that's my team's rival. I don't WanNa hear that one right. I WanNa see that highlight but I just feel like there are so many and that's local broadcast. Another one that came to mind for me was our friend. Matty Vima scourging with the Santa Maria you know which he does on Sunday baseball. And there's one specific homerun. I'm sure you remember it from last year. It was you guys were in Colorado in early April. And Cody bellinger. Hit this monster shot and we were just starting to see what kind of season cody bellinger was going to have you at this big home. Run to right field and I just started laughing as Mattie was saying it and like. That's my signature Santamaria from him so I was thinking of that one too. You know what I'm going to have to get him on the podcast with you next Monday. And I'll make him pick the top five like his favorite is his favorite tough five. You're right about fans and how some of them turn them off Like Hawk Harrelson. I love his home run call. I've always loved that. You know you put it on the board and you'll hear you'll hear players When we're in clubhouses in the early afternoon and there's the white sox game on or has been on and he makes that call the players will give the Hawk Harrelson call. I think they appreciate that but you know thank you for your inspiration Matt Gershon. He'll be on the clock next Monday. If I can wrangle them into joining US I love it. I love it. This is so much fun. You now it's just like a whole other side of the game. I think we could do an hour. Long podcast on this. We won't we won't do that to people but there's just so many and it's just so much fun to listen to them. You know. I love the audio part of the game. No doubt about it all right Sarah. Thanks for doing this awesome. Thank you so much about. There is the play by play man on Seattle Mariners Games for root sports northwest. Dave has a lot of stories and I can't wait to hear him. Thanks for helping to distract us. Thank you I tell you what the phillies mutual. Let me tell you. My Cell palliative manage Void unbelievable. What can I and we have we have to entertain ourselves. It's got to that point so when I asked you ahead of time. Send me a list of different things that you want to talk to and number one on your list was what number one on my list. Which is the no hitters that you called in and before we get into that as a broadcaster. I'm curious about your philosophy because I get so much pushback when I'm watching a game and a pitcher has a no hitter in progress in all tweet out. Hey Felix's in the seventh inning. He's got a no hitter. So many fans get upset about that. How did your philosophy on that develop? My philosophy is an old newspaper Guy and listening to the grates and studying the greats and having Marty Brennaman. It'll be we. We did to file four a couple of three years and I was talking and talking to him as twenty something years ago. He's a David Call. Which is c. And I'd never really was a big you know. I never really paid that much attention to that. Jim I mean. That's what they have down in the clubhouse. I got into an argument with the Great Ozzie. Smith about that said I. I'm broad casting broad casting call Lodhi daddy and everybody to the potty because Felix says no no in the six to macarbre came up to me one time in Chicago is a here you talk about the no no hitters and perfect those while they're going on I said Yeah what about it. I get my back up getting ready to thinking. We're GONNA have this big argument. He put his arm around his God. Love you pal. I love it thank you. I'm glad you do that. And he told me start about coming home after a game turned on a TV guys throwing a no. No the announcer never says it and then they get to the ninth inning and Tim at this point. It's been putting around his house. Said if I'd known it was a no no added sat and watched the entire game and not just had it on sort of an ambient noise. Why and I call it. A Lotta Greece in Seattle for that thousand twelve. I got the number perfecto. Did a game on Fox we got the Felix Perfecto In August of that year August Fifteenth. Twenty twelve was June. Six A sixth pitcher no no mariners. No My. You're watching a game. I'm doing what's happening. It's a perfect game. No hitters soapy. Who were you talked about some of the pushback that you've got Of course you have fans who are passionate and I see them all the time and social media hammer me when I'll tweet out someone's got a no hitter Did you ever get push back from a player? Somebody on the team now not the only pushback seriously. The only push back. I got from Ozzie. Smith at Attari at one time and I asked him about that and he he he got the you know the red. You know what you're talking about. I said you have US come on man. There's nothing to do with you guys. I got an audience. I'm trying to entertain and inform and trying to grow that audience at the same time. If you if that's superstition you have got blessed but it has nothing to do with me said this. It's not like when I was with Grading System Francis Patricia class on trying to keep cheating off. I'm trying to let everybody know what the Hell's going on what's it like being in that seat Calling a perfect game I tell you what that surge of energy and like Oh my God. Let's not screw this up. Let's get our facts. How many knows have there been. When was the last one? How many have been in both leagues? Call the game. I remember Eric Karros at the game with them on on that Fox game and he was great and they feel game. was different because it was our guy in our ballpark on getaway. Wednesday spectacular afternoon. Twenty thousand I eight nine or was it. Twenty one thousand eight nine nine on hand and because it was Felix because at that point he had had so many brilliant outings in the course of his career and had got legendary. No run support. Non Support was unbelievable game. He wins on Wednesday game. One nothing against Tampa Bay so it wants to super exciting and again you know. The marriage haven't been playoffs and so once so anything like that is just going to take on just the you know mega intensity and my adrenaline matter of fact after the game One out after all the post game stuff that a bunch of interviews and went to dinner with my wife and some friends and white clayborn who does Cardinal Baseball doesn't pre and post on radio. Hey said how you doing. I said I'm trying to come down from this he says. Don't you ever come down from a perfect game? I gotTa Syria. I WanNa see if you agree with me or tell me if you think of. Full of crap I feel like the conditions for no hitters are absolutely acute in Seattle. Like no other ballpark in America. First of all you know historically You know they. They've changed the fences but generally speaking it's been known as a pitcher's Park It's the the park that's the furthest from the every other park in baseball players. Have to travel. And you've got a typically correct me if I'm wrong a lot of times the afternoon Games you get the twelve thirty five start and you know just knowing players rolling in there. The Seattle's a great town to go out in and those are the conditions for which you might get no hitters in an afternoon game. Yeah absolutely in both of them. The number game was a Saturday afternoon. One one ten start Pacific and it was a one one one ten start Felix game on a Wednesday afternoon. I think all those factors I think are in play. I mean you know we. We have one win. Been pleasant one but I tell you what I haven't met anybody. Major League Baseball at the thought absolutely adore into Seattle and particularly Spring and summer where he is almost non factor and it's bright sunshine. And you know two days. It doesn't get darker like nine fifty the peaches summer. So it's a it's a wonderful place. Great eating out Foodie It's a great place to be at the water. You got the mountains. You got everything all right. What was it like when junior came back in two thousand nine? He got to meet him. Yeah you know. Obviously I knew junior a baseball fan and covering baseball for an ESPN NINETY. Three ninety four and economic four. So I didn't really know him and I just remember I type Met Him once with the white sox couple years before that and then so now he comes to us and I went in and introduced myself. So I'm and I tell you what I thought I could talk. We talked about so many things you talked about his family. I got after like we had a conversation at his at his walk. I think it was after workouts. Like an hour and Change. It was amazing and just Just a wonderful open for me that that I know I mean. He's a people person He loves the talk and and he loves his family and he and another time I went to put his home In my son we're doing some business. Brio mad our place from golfing. He's got every you know he's. His home is magnificent and he around. He's got he's got closets bigger than my first couple of apartments here in New York. So I mean it's He's become a friend and and you know when I had I went to my press thing. He he called his old man over to me. And you're GonNa be alright me through the process and everything so the Griffey's Griffey's a big of my book. I really so I tell people all the time you do too. I'm sure you know what's this person like. What's this person like? And they asked me about Ken Griffey Junior. And my answer. Always is you know what my personal experience wasn't great where you walk in his visiting a reporter that he doesn't know actually with the reds when this happened any remember him sort of corrupting humping at me a little bit and then him waiting because he's you know basically. I was standing over waiting for him to talk. I'm watching him interact with the clubhouse kids and they love him and athletic trainer and they love him and so the way that I came away and you know better than I do. The way it came away. Was you know what he he? He's lived in this fishbowl of attention so knuckleheads like me. You know he doesn't need folks like me But I so I can understand why he kinda keep me at arm's length but I tell friends all the time I guarantee you that if you're you his next door neighbor you would love him. 'cause you could see how is relationship was with people in the clubhouse. Yeah he's the he's the Best I've ever seen it. I've been lucky to cover a lot of sports. And he takes care of those guys at and he does a lot of stuff he doesn't WanNa be doesn't WanNa show he told me chapter and verse. About yeah. I was born with a lot of talent but I work my butt off and I was up in my batting cage at one o'clock in the morning and nobody saw me. And he he's he's grumbles the that'd take a lot of batting practice. Yelich four o'clock five o'clock he'd already done at one two o'clock. Am Come on and then there were many times. I'm totally in his first run through Seattle. That he was big with the children. You know make a wish. And all those kinds of groups and befriending kids and making you know just making them feel at ease and and walking welcoming them into the clubhouse and giving them everything and eat some now. He's he's fabulous in every there's no question all right. What was it like to to watch Felix Hernandez do work there artiste? I mean I grew up in the sixties. So you know I'm a Colfax Shell Gibson Guy This guy did a little bit different The change up The breaking ball is just ridiculous and then when when I got there no seven I mean he could hump it up. He was consistently ninety five. Plus and again you know I. I don't have this totals in front of me. But I can guarantee he should have at least eighty more wins on his window because there have been so he went one year where I think he broke our seaver record or something most games seven innings plus one run three hits and half and most of those games were no decisions though. Decisions or heartbreaking losses. He leaves the game with a lead. And somebody gives up to bomb to win at eighth and ninth inning mean so much heartbreak in his easy to root for and during that time when he had not support would he's pitched better to gave up to pit two hits and struck out nine. One what are you talking about? But he said I just got to do a better job. And he firmly firmly believe that best thing for him is the pitch at his optimum and be a great teammate. And I don't think in terms of being a team I never heard that word about Felix during my time with temps would've been like seven through this past year. Yeah you know what was really cool. was that After he signed that big contract he he lived in Seattle during the offseason. Remember hearing that from folks on the organization how unusual that was and again. It reminded me that what I was saying about. A junior and the reaction to the clubhouse guys never forget when Felix sign that long-term deal When he was getting are getting off an elevator yet the ball and they're all employees are waiting for them and they gave them a big cheer and he he began to cry. Yeah he did and I. I remember you know live here. I live here in New York so I saw that when they posted it online and I thought it was one of the neatest things I've ever seen in sports. You know. They put out online in a hole in all of SAFECO field to mobile fly. Everybody down to the basement going Felix comes out to the news kind of pretend you know everybody in the building. Was there a couple of three hundred people? And he. He shed tears man. It was It was emotional and it was really it just shows you how much he meant to. Seattle the other thing of. Course when they started the king's Court and when he was dealing man and he would have. They'd have those Blue and gold placards and people would come in and they charge a reasonable fee. You go and sit in the left field corner near the foul pole and where these gold t shirts. I'll never forget that before. They formalized that there would be a group of people down there and phillies would be. You know he'd be a six or seven bending and you'd have five or six strikeouts and I elvis. I this chant I'm going there saying KKK. And I said wait a minute I just said. Kkk On them on actually broadcast on Cape Ripa. Strikeout people write anything misconstrued here. You know what I'm talking about. Who is your big influences? And broadcaster got a lot Bill Campbell for one did the Phillies sixers enables in Philly. When I was growing up in the fifties and sixties and then the first guy I black man I ever saw do play by Do Sports. Anchoring and then play by play was bill. White dove courses a great first baseman giants Cardinals Phillies came to National League. President longtime announcer Prior to that longtime announcer with the Yankees and I remember when he was naturally president. I remember we got put together and we were going to have a meeting. He was GONNA try to get my name out into into the Into Biz. Try to get me a job. This is what before I got the job at the mariners but I I talked to him a couple times a year and I said bill you probably. You probably have no idea. This is going on but I pay tribute to you several times a week and say like Nelly Cruise when cruises with us the left that both God and my deep is the call he put on the Bucky Dent home. Run the playoff game. It's seventy eight grandkids. Not GonNa get it. That's a home run for Bucky Dent. The the yesterday's will not get three run home run for ten the Yankees Advice. Four three two two ten is Ted is full of the era of the scree. Looking at Yankee bed led by Bob Cliff Johnson and a happy plucky dead Yankees. Read it too and I just like the way Bill. Bill is always a classy guy. And he's having played the game. He was able to disseminate information. And he had a blast with Phil Rizzuto and I thought there comradery was outstanding and it was a great list. Oh absolute- well and they needed someone like bill right with his steadiness of his personality allies. Scooter was yeah absolutely. I mean and Philo due to last couple as well I went down and I was talking to some huckleberry. Data's going GONNA read us. Still been and Easier so hey wait. What did he do last time up because all I have is a ww? My scorebook wasn't watching paid back. I am I of Thunder Phil would already be on the bridge heading home the jurors. Oh yeah yeah that famously When you told him that you use that borrowed that line from him on home runs every week What was his response? Why eight thirty is really. I know it impact the Yankees that day when then hit that home run? It just hit you know. He's living here in New York. You're going to hear that. You hear that clip a million times so it always. It's just it's simple to the point and and it and it said the whole story and that's exactly what happened and Having worked at you know having worked at the Daily News here in New York at tabloid stories. Don't have to be good so you know. Get to the point. Cut to the chase you know. I always love hearing the back stories of how Play by play guys. Come up with their home run calls. You got a couple of ask about boom stick baby Nelson Cruz A derivation of Bob. Leonard Bob Slick. Leonard with Indiana Pacers. When Reggie Miller hit a three point shot Mark Boyle I mean the play by play Guy Reggie in a corner and then you just hear phone baby so Nellie his handle was boom stick so I put two and two together S. my son. They they should go for it and snowy. Go for it and I'll never forget coming into the clubhouse one day and he said what's that phone and it was about six months somebody matched up for and all they here with. Oh baby state baby Nelson so I. I really miss him as a person and I miss having him on the bulk of because I get the call a lot of monsters home runs. Oh and he has a reputation being the teammate Super Pas. Oh my God I've been around hundreds of guys in all the sports I've covered he's He's probably a top three or did he. Up Giddy up. Gone watched a lot on Westerns as a kid You name Western. That was on in the fifties and sixties my favorites alone lone ranger and cowboys. They don't get it up. Get up so you know and then also influence a little bit by you because you've always go to or so. It's SORTA did my personality so I wanted to tell you this story about Kyle. Seager your third Baseman In this was the craziest things that I've ever had happened to me on a baseball field. Who's actually before a game that was played by the cardinals? Dodgers Cory Seager was in the lineup of the dodgers that day. And you've got that group of fans behind home plate. Working batting practice is standing. There guy calls me over. Hey Buster come over here. Hey Hey you know you related to the SEGER brothers. And I'm like looking at him going. What are you talking about like and he goes now? Yeah you guys have like the same great grandparents or something like that any in any starts to re relate all this information yeah upstate New York this person and this person. I thought that's crazy. Now you know Corey's personality he's not a Talker Cairo talker than Corey. So then coincidentally the next weekend we had the mariners in Wrigley Field. And I walked up to owners like Hey Jabber hear anything in your family. That we're related was. Yeah my dad used to tell me that when I was twelve. Thirteen years old. I was watching you on television so yeah so I I guess now. I haven't actually gone back and sat down with Kyle and found the where the family tree splits. But that's a fun conversation for a short guy from Vermont till he got is his name. Jeff Say Jesse. Judy I think they live in North Carolina but yet he's from upstate. New York The old man and I believe Kyle grew up in or near capitalist North Carolina where the King Richard Petty's from. So what? Why never make sure that EARNHARDT EARNHARDT One? I think it's earnhardt Annapolis. But anyway that that's where he lives. Not I I have a good time with Kyle. 'cause he's a Carolina Guy and I do coach Mike. She Skis Radio. Show that we're always busted horns on when place Carolina in college hoops. All right so I wanna ask you last at. This is great story. From a couple years ago They have when the mariners actually a great story. It was involved a fight but it was the craziest thing I ever heard it. I wanted to get your back story on it Involving Dee Gordon and I think jeans girl was also involved reading stories. If you could tell that story case when I read it a more classic Dee Gordon. Right there well I I remember. It was played Centerfield. Short pop up me probably more short-to-medium. Centerfield D. was planned Kinda date. Gene had a better angle on it. Generally that's all and I think what happened was gene took a couple of steps and sit and shut it down and and May d get a late start. Come in got his glove on it. Dropped it and that had probably been maybe three four or five times. That happened to play cloudy and Centerfield and evidently they had some words. I'll never forget. We're down there for the C- Senior skip and you know milling around the clubhouse. Hey what's going on? How you doing Glen and comes a student. Sarah can we be the clubhouse from on I think we can be? What do I walk out a bunch of walk out that door and the door closes and then I told you do. The door opened nothing. It looked like it. Looks like Mel Brooks's blazing saddles. That was a bunch a bunch of guys on top of each other trying to put one guy up another d was going after after Sikora. It ended right there but it was. It was so explosive and so fast that what's up every day. That close in that personal I I was GonNa say I thought I when I saw d the next time that is classic Dee Gordon. Right there where he politely asked people to leave the clubhouse so he can brawl. Yeah I mean I'm telling you it was so getting here on my wife. Always have them call you dave and he he won't call me by my first name. We always got Sir. We have the clubhouse for second like an Ma fight just broke out. It was amazing. And I gotTa have you 'cause you said this on the list and I love to hear backstories for for from folks about who. Their team was Who their favorite player was on. Your list was the heartbreak of the phillies nineteen sixty four collapse. What you're the you know. Shula short and bonding. I remember Interviewing Art Mahaffey when I was on New York Radio and at ninety one and I asked the question. Art was still field. I said I can understand your pain so I was like well held with ten or eleven. I'd had my money saved up for world series and Kinda play the Yankees. It's all excited. Chico Ruiz got it started stealing home with Frank. Robinson all of all people at the plate and Flash four years lead in Baltimore. And I see Hank Allen who's he's a scout and he played volley quite. It's great stories but clamper Ted Williams and I said you brothers. One of my favorite players win over fifteen is high school senior and Catcher said I had my money saved up for world series tickets. He said money saved up and he says hold on a second stand up pulls out. His Wallet is tickets. Nineteen sixty four about that Wow he had been hung onto. He's hanging onto that. Yup Yup and anybody from the Greater Philadelphia area of that generation was a sports fan can remember it like it was yesterday because you know the Wiz had the run and fifty. They let them get old together. Team went in the toilet. Dick Gallon comes up cookie role. Is John Kelsen bumming short? Hell held a team and they blew it and they would have played the Yankees and I grew up Fifteen minute walk from county mack. Stadium Wile I yeah you had your heart ripped out by that team when I was thirteen years. Old was a huge dodgers fan. And Reggie Jackson hit three homers to beat them the dodgers in game six and I was weeping as a as a teenager and many years later. I'm covering the Yankees New York Times and I and talking to Reggie Jackson for the first time my life and there's this little voice in the back of her head going. Oh my God I used to hate you. Oh my God yeah and that. Probably you know any of us who've been lifelong you know. Sports fans jocks and as a kid. Yeah hate so and so and then you and I've been lucky enough to meet a lot of these guys and I know exactly what you're talking about that little birdy on your shoulder this sucker member but now you're famously get along with them and a professional relationship. It's cool. I love talking to Reggie. He's great I absolutely right Dave. Thanks for the time on this. Thanks for distracting is loved you stories at. Thank you buster. All Beth looked at the art MANTECA. Here's Tim Coaches Daily Baseball. Fix about the Great Brooks Robinson. Hi this is Tim. Kirch in and on this date in one thousand nine hundred thirty seven Brooks Robinson was born. I think he's the greatest defensive third baseman. All Time. You wanted sixteen gold gloves most ever by a position player and he was especially good in the one thousand nine hundred. Seventy world series against the reds. You've made at least a half. A dozen spectacular plays Robinson at two thousand eight hundred. Forty eight hits. He won the MVP in one thousand nine hundred sixty four and he holds the record for most games ten in which he drove in the only run in a one to nothing victory and Brooks Robinson is to me then nicest superstar player I have ever met. He is a loved at Baltimore. He's beloved everywhere and in retirement gala for Him Gordon. Beer sports writer said in New York. They named a candy bar after Reggie Jackson here in vaulted name. Our children have rose rise bleacher tweets. All righty buster bleacher tweets for Mundy Andrew. Campbell at real camp drew writes in with the last documentary coming to an end. What COMES TO MIND? I one thinking of the most dominant dynasty or generational player of any era in baseball is an old yankees team. Cincinnati's big red machine or something like babe ruth or Hank Aaron. It was Babe Ruth Babe Ruth without it. He lorded over the sport. You know he completely all the sport. There's that great stat from nineteen twenty seven. When he set the record with sixty home runs in a season that he out homered every other team and the sport itself change to adapt to what Babe Ruth was doing hitting home runs and it went away from the ty Cobb style of running and bunting and slashing and It scoring that way to go on for the long ball. Babe Ruth completely changed his sport in a way that I don't think anybody has any sport may be safer Wayne Gretzky. Justin may just in my apologies on that one. Jj Mai Mai Mai to rates in. Do you think Major League Baseball will ever retire? Roberto Clementes number league-wide similar to what they did with Jackie Robinson. I hope so. Because of the great player that he was and the legacy that he carries and I thought. Oh you know Justin when I saw your question. I thought you know what a good time to do. That would be in two thousand and twenty two Because in September. Two thousand twenty two. That'll be the fifty year anniversary last. Game Roberto Clementi played and of course the lasted got was number three thousand in his career off John Matt lack. That would be a really good time to do that. I believed for a number of years. They should retire it. Baseball is not done it. That would be a good time to do it last one up for today not really question more of an acknowledgement here Austin. Jay Smith rates in at bear boot prod. I listened to baseball night every day. But finally a little bummed out to the Greenberg episode the Intrinsic American Sport of Bull. Riding has been in competition. Since mid April Austin filed several tweets asking for you know a little bit recognition on bull riding which I guess has been around for a while so in a weekend where we had some live sports to watch. Don't forget about bull riding everyone police. And by the way in the last four days on my family farm back in Vermont Cows released into the pasture and I grew up with cows. So I it Austin I agree with you. I've no Mike Greenberg for a long time. I promise you bull riding is not on his radar. I don't think he was taking shots at it. Either to be I would tell you that greeny would be the first one to tell you. That bull riding was not honors radar so I apologize and be happy. Greenie that We weren't thinking about it. The other day that's it for Bleacher tweets. Hashtag bleacher tweets on twitter. Thanks everyone that's it for today. Thanks TO DAVE. Two SERTA Taylor. Thanks for listening. Everybody have a great day and stay safe. Thanks for listening to the baseball tonight. Podcast if you're playing fantasy baseball forget to listen to the fantasy focus podcast checkout all podcasts at ESPN DOT com slash pod center. Baseball tonight the PODCAST.

Baseball Yankees New York City Seattle Sarah I mariners Felix phillies Major League Baseball Bill Campbell ESPN Vermont reds Hawk Harrelson Jay Smith Seattle Mariners Michael Jordan Espn Dave Sims Brooks Robinson
Hour 2: Sam Jones

The Paul Finebaum Show

37:56 min | 3 months ago

Hour 2: Sam Jones

"Cried passion than patrick. Three of college. Football leaves keer these paul finebaum show our to podcast and we welcome you back to the program. Second hour live. We'll talk a little bit about the the life and times henry. Aaron who will be. Immoral lives to morrow check in with jim in virginia. Hey jim thanks good afternoon. Paul how are you doing. Well thank you just want to say. I'm a big fan of your show. And i think you do an excellent job. Thank you very much Saying that you obviously know a lot about football and you know during the season on big tennessee saying an sec fan A lot of your predictions are spot on. Just wonder why you wouldn't consider coaching team. Maybe there's a really good reason jim. I know absolutely nothing about coaching. It's one thing to. It's one thing to be a monday morning quarterback and sit there and watch a game yesterday. And i felt like i knew more than the green bay head coach but i agree i in that case. I think i could have done a better job. But but frankly i there are. There are very few things that i'm i'm qualified for so i am going to continue to try to do those that i am versus those that i am not well. I figured out that out there and keep it up. You did a great job. Well they won't offer me seven million a year. I'll be there tomorrow to knoxville. Thank you keith. Is up next in long island. Hey keith. you're on the air. Hi how are you today keith. Were doing great hope you are. I'm doing great thanks for asking You know don't get anybody seven million in your left pocket. Did you know that. The thing that regarding tennessee coach. I don't understand why these guys aren't going. After someone like tom allen they might be and i don't know about it but I haven't seen anything. He's done a great job at indiana And you know. Indiana in football terms is not a great As a legendary football hour. So i think he's terrific. I agree. I watch a couple of his games this year. I think it was the game that he has his son. Got hurt was really gut wrenching. But i i would agree. I think he is Compared to the last couple of coaches tennessee has had tom allen would be overqualified. Seems to be a a a a very strong recruiter. And he's seems to be a really really good x. Knows guy because he's he's gonna head to head with all those guys in big ten right now beating them the coming very very close to it now i. It's a really good point. I i'm not saying he wouldn't get it but i do think he's a name to keep your eyes on for other jobs. Maybe not the tennessee job. I'm not sure would want that job. Frankly rob is in north carolina. How's it go- and I'm a professor over here at wake forest and we love our head. Coach dave clawson. Who's done a great job here. Wake forest and built many a program in the greatest act of irony. Is there any chance sentence as john. Curry's head coach or do you think we're safe. I think you are safe although certainly There was a connection there. As you probably know and i am really impressed. I've kept my on him for the last couple of years. And i think i'm not. I'm not diminishing the the resources of wake forest which are enormous but To have a successful football program there year and you're out is is unusual and i think he's done how john currie working out by the way that will but but yeah cautions great he. He's got some experience in knoxville as well. Albert is also in north carolina. We're spending to be spending a lotta time on the tar heel state guard ahead. You're on the air are you doing. We're doing well. Thank you for the call. I wanted to talk to you about alabama. How do you think they did. Are you impressed impressed. I can't believe that. I can't believe they had such a great year. You know coming back from a couple of really off years and all of a sudden they just. It's just like a flower. Blooming hasn't been blooming for a while and set explode. Well let's look the facts. Two years ago their undefeated until the last game. I would hardly call that a disaster. Although the last game was a disaster losing by twenty eight points last year they did lose twice so they've lost three times in three seasons. I think this year was just a combination of things. It was a confluence of of nick. Sabin being able to handle the pandemic better than anyone else and he also you know had the good fortune of Keeping steve sarkissian. Who is considering going to colorado in the off season what. What's our keesey and did and taking mack. Jones from a a serviceable quarterback to the best quarterback in the country was beyond beyond comprehension. And i think a lot of other things all came together. But i think mostly it came together. Because he had some players they're davante smith harris dickerson. Others that That had all been around for a while. He kept his coaching staff in place for the first time in a while and i think that led to what we saw two weeks ago tonight all he know he no fifty percent of the reason alabama one that football game which him number fifty eight christian mar more. He was unbelievable. I agree with you holy mac. Denali is unbelievable. I want to ask you one other thing. I'll let you go a lot of people. Wait a about bill. O'brien i don't know anything about him. Well i'll tell you a little bit. Bill o'brien is a disciple of bill. Belichick he was the offensive coordinator for a lot of the successful years of of the patriots. He went to penn state and took over there after the debacle of with with not not that abaco was saying dusky but the aftermath of that when the school was literally leveled by the nc double a. And he did. He did a phenomenal job. Nobody thought they could. They would win at all and he was quite successful for fairly short period of time but he still did extremely well. They went to the texans where he did a good job until he was fired this year when a trail off there there. There was a team in the playoffs. A decent amount and he's got a great background. He's he could probably be a head coach and a lot of places but he wants to spend some nba coordinators. I'd great job. I don't have any doubt. He will be a fantastic coach. Let's check in with joe. Who is in tennessee. Hey joe you're on the air. Go right ahead paul. How you doing today sir. We are doing well. Joe thank you. I just i don't know i live in fairfield glade. I don't know how much you know about the area where ours we. It's north across this like a golf retirement community. And sometimes i feel like i'm the only guy here from south adele. How river but anyway. I wanted to know if you could replay jeff's call after the ohio state. We missed yeah well. He was a typical joe of of a guy from ohio. Licking his wounds. Hey it wasn't that memorable. I can assure you of that. Morgan is up next in alabama. Hey morgan you're on the air. Yeah so yeah. A previous caller said something about david tech. Well i kind of always wondered does. General is general knowledge that he almost was the alabama coach. Take it is not general knowledge. But you're right He was almost the The failsafe coach because originally turned the alabama job down. Then they went to spurrier and he said no and then they did offer it to rich rodriguez a now from the moment that he took it and then back out thank goodness and they decided to malheur more decided to wait on sabin. And you're right if sabre had backed out after more after. He waited for him for a couple of days in fort lauderdale cuckold. Very well would have gotten the job. And if he If he could have gotten a job like that you would think tennessee would probably At least give them a chance to come back there. Well i think if truth. Be known morgan They they offered the job to cut cliff. Tennessee said so many openings. I'm trying to remember when it was. I believe it was. When derek dooley got the job however i think they tried to put some stipulations on who he had to keep on the staff and cut cliff said skip it. I'll do it. I wanted to although i've always wondered about that because if you go to school and are successful alternately you you can shape your own staff but after that. I don't think wanted too much to do with ut anymore. We will take a break when we come back. We're going to talk to a close friend of henry. Aaron who grew up in mobile alabama like henry went on to become the mayor of the city and played a key role in bringing multiple honors for the late henri aaron in his home town. We'll talk to the former mayor sam jones. Do you own or rent your home. Share you and i bet it can be hard work you know. It's easy bundling policies with geico. Geico makes it easy to bundle your homeowner's or renter's insurance along with your auto policy. It's a good thing too because you already have so much to do around your home. Go to geico dot com. Get a quote and see how much you could save. Its gyco easy visit. Geico dot com. Today that's geico dot com at one. That's once white was last seen. Give back brennan with elite. Qb's russell got the kenneth on clutch td's lacrosse step behind. Because you know you're at thirty two finger. Push us bruce lee showing no mercy fat five crew on deck g do. No one else goes deeper. Espn download now coming up next. You're listening to the paul finebaum show podcast and we welcome back. It's great to have all of you here. And we spent so much time on on friday remembering the late henri aaron and we're we in col- world is still reflecting on his greatness as we get ready to say the final goodbyes to him tomorrow. We're joined now by sam jones. Who is the former mayor of mobile alabama. He is currently a state representative and the alabama state house and someone whose family grew up close to and friendly with very close friendly with friends with hank. Aaron a representative jones. Thank you. it's so great to have you on. We hope you're well. Thank you so much. I'm happy to be more delighted to to hear your remembrances of henry aaron. What's your first memory of the great baseball player applause. Thank was Because in our opinion and mobile the benchmark baseball player in the world we coming up with look see as we all followed him and you know mobile city of great baseball player. We have five hall of famers led by hank fear and death on the citizens united states again engine fogle so we baseball sit in. We've followed the dunkin. Spare the baseball player but other land he had demand was just well liked by rebounded Was the -ticipant in with one. He the town the person that is so he makes an impact. Here we go and we just so proud of him and really agreed loss for these losses community level and a great loss to the excellent baseball represented jones. You understand it Having been the mayor of mobile and a very popular figure and played such a critical role in helping that community. Reflect and remember and honor hank aaron with with with so many different aspects. But you also remember as your family does and your parents do as well what what that city was like. What what the what the whole south was like. I don't want to point out mobile because it was no different than anyplace else. But what what can you tell younger. People who who did not live through that area what. It was like to grow up in at the time that hank aaron grew up in mobile alabama difficult though i don't ever of currency should've done for the accomplishments. They embrace phone. He played in liberally at twelve. Sacha fake and and some others. The also usually get much coverage. He was probably a great way before anyone really knew it story. A lot of it has to do with the way that things will handle doing this. And we've got a lot of racial issues. We had a lot of separation between the community but he he worked through all of that he he he always going to make sure there's Santa gravitas and who came before him got into wanted to make sure that people understand. That key will five. Cheever's was all those other a miracle play in the major leagues and when they get into the major especially here and some of these get made impact. He acts courage throughout this this country to continue to persevere until you can be recognized for what you've done and what was it like when you finally ascended to to become the mayor and i believe correct me if i'm wrong that That henry aaron participated in your campaign. Is that correct correct. Did something here Tom with who've been with him since childhood and he's suggested why don't you call hank. I think he'd be interested in hit the wall we had a fundraising atlanta and he invited all fund raiser he did tv spy on people in mixed making sure mobile move forward. That was one of the things that he was totally committed to me. It's a problem because he didn't know me that well known and it really surprised me. Much input into the input. Put lot into call me from san. Even though with mobile his family his father via papi now community been buzzer and one time on the on the war because as long as fish and he comes down and spend some time with the fans and you know he is just a great guy. Just someone be sending the everyone representative. I'm interested in that because there are other baseball player's gonna mention another one who is really on the same level as hank aaron who grew up about two hundred fifty miles north of where of where you grew up. And you know. He had a conflicted history with his hometown. Because a lot of young people growing up in the segregated south they progress but they don't forget very easily what was. What was it about hank aaron. That was able to move past that and be proud of where he came from. As you as you just got through saying that he had he he got. He didn't let call. Did not let an attorney where he wanted to go and play the game. He was someone who always had in his mind. What happened to him when he also had the gold of all the coming. Everything is impotent. Short a new teacher did not just for himself for everyone else who were colored in footsteps footsteps and all the people he knew. Tell us the story about number one naming the ballpark after him. But i also remember you play a big role in making sure. That that the home he grew up in was became. A you know a major and important historical reminder. And i. I think the home was even moved to. The ballpark was not real long on grounds and who he had some of the greatest they. We'll laser in reggie jackson. Were there in on these all framers and you just to help paint. Celebrate the moving the home then you of great mobile so that was something that we really wanted to go on him. In fact the off downtown. You actually wrongly your loot. So and and i really think that we need to do some suggest. People know that this great great man originated from the What an amazing story The former mayor of mobile sam jones now our state representative remembering the late hank aaron Thank you so much for sharing stories. All the best to you and we really appreciate your time. You bet sam jones joining us and we will take a break More of your phone calls at five five two four two seven two eight five the new defensive coordinator at the university of missouri. Coming up if you missed the front part of the show. We had bruce feldman on going up and down the list of the potential candidates at the university of tennessee. He believes they could have a coach by this week. We'll update you on that more of your phone calls when we come back listening to the paul finebaum show podcast. Hey welcome back. Great to have you here and richard is on the phone from mississippi. Hello richard good afternoon cut. Hello paul i hope you don't well thank you. I want one more question about about the hiring of the university of tennessee coach. Mine is always a you freeze question. This is my last thought on on the thing. I is it a job that she thinks that she freeze really wants. I only say that for one reason. This job appears to be for a lot of people that dream job. Even though it don't look like it from the outside for you freeze. It could be a job. That could just send him into you. Know a into the conversation with the most prominent coaches college coaches of all time if he does somewhat what he'd done in mississippi but it also could be a career ending decision for him. I just want to get your thoughts on that. All there is risk anytime you go to a place that there are cards. Stacked against you and there are cards. That will be difficult to overcome. But i do think you freeze desperately wants this job. I sat in his office. At ole miss about five or six years ago and he told me the story of when he was on his honeymoon they were. He and his wife were driving through knoxville. They they drove up to the stadium and look down into it and he said man. If i could ever work in this in this place it would be the ultimate for me. And i don't think he ever lost side of that because he was telling me not that long ago and i think it is it. Is that type of job. Do i think he's gonna get it. No i don't think he is in the running. I think there are many things going against him. So i would take him off. You're bored paul. I appreciate your insight on their thank. You thank you. Yeah maybe a couple of a fan favourite. But i think there are some significant roadblocks for him to get his job. Wayne is up next. Hey wayne go right ahead. Hello hi there. I don't know if anybody's mentioned this or not. It may have been brought up. But i was giving some thought after that gentleman was talking today. About black coaches in this. He's a and there isn't any. Hey coaches i got to and you know derek mason Would be a man that i think deserves a chance We all know that he didn't get a pool deck to work with bill and And he's a firing coach and a fiery competitor. And i believe when the chancellor said she's looking for someone with high moral. I believe he would be representative of that too. So what do you think bob wayne. Let me say this. I would agree with you in terms of the kirch mason's integrity and character He he is And and represents all of that. But but i think it would be very difficult to introduce him with his overall. Won loss record I think it would. It would go over very poorly. Thank you for the suggestion. Though appreciate it. Let's check in with henry who is up in tennessee. Hello henry you are next up. Thank you go right ahead henry. You're you're on the air Yeah my name is henry. I'm alabama fan. Step on tennessee. Eight about ever said something about gus. Malzahn i mean he come out of the way he's coming out the west. I don't think he got a job right now and he already knows. Emc say was that not a good choice. Until i see their choice ultimately. I i wouldn't say he he wouldn't be a good choice. I think that's a good football coach. And he is proven that You know there are some obstacles at auburn. That he never could quite outrun. But i'm not exactly sure that would disqualify him for anything you know. He he collected about fifteen or twenty million dollars in buyout money. So i don't think he's having to work like the rest of us every day to to support our families but they can do a lot worse than gus malzahn. And they got that right. I mean you've had a good one coach. Come to west went to florida. I mean it seemed like everybody won't gives out obama coaches won't you get hit somebody else. Sides out not size out. Obama cut you get somebody of the way us. But i doubt go gus. Malzahn would be a good candidate. I appreciate you taking my call and have a good day bye. Thank you very much. Great to have you on Allen is up next in tennessee. Hello allen your next up. Paul thank you for taking my call. Thank you jiang's franken has thumbs down for me because of the way he left vanderbilt allen. I didn't like the way left either. I had a confrontation with them right after that. He was pretty ticked off at my reaction. But i said you're you're now you've just felt like he had just misled a number of his recruits and people and left them high and dry and he didn't seem to care one bit. Alt-right i agree. Thank you for taking my thank you. Yeah that always bothered me. A probably didn't help my relationship but james franklin 'cause we're we're pretty good friends and i told him that on the air. His reaction was quite priceless. I think he's a good coach and coaches leave places under under mysterious circumstances all the time but i thought that was one of the worst. Thank you very much for the call and about about brad of next. Hey brad thank you and Good afternoon good afternoon paul. Hey man i got a question We we don't know what punishments are coming down from the nc double a. To tennessee at this moment is that right. That is correct. You're absolutely right. So do you think that. I mean any coach that takes this job has to be looking forward to his future. Tennessee also has to have some back channel. Communications keeping up with the way as to what these punishments may end up being. Do you think the coach that they name here in a couple of days could be a tale as to what type punishments or coming down the line. yes brad. There is no doubt in my mind that there. There are back channel communications between tennessee whether it's directly or more than likely indirectly on where this is going and i also believe there are people who are probably encouraging the overall that if you if you weigh. Lay tennessee for doing the right thing. You're sending the wrong message to the next school. Who who won't do the right thing and we'll we'll off your skate and deceive like most schools do so i. I think there is a lot of the line there. And i think tennessee probably has a vague idea where this is going and i'm sure they're they're sharing that with you have to share that you can't you. Can't miss leader coaching candidate. Or at least you can't do you. Do you think you could put your prediction hat on. And say if they hire someone like tom allen that what do you think those infractions will be and then if they end up hiring franklin what do you think those. Yeah i think if you. I don't mean i don't want anybody to misread this because i think they're good coaches. But if you go to the billy napier bill clark jamey chadwell level. It's probably indicating you are going to get hit pretty bad if you get a bigger name. Coach luke fickle james franklin who bruce feldman mentioned. Who else did he mention Couple of other significant. Pj flat pj flack. Yeah you're absolutely right. He was the biggest. Then i think that's indicating that maybe tennessee will take a bowl ban this year which will make any difference anyway. Because i doubt tennessee will win enough games to go to a ball game and it might be so yeah. I think it doesn't mean we're we're right. But i think you can certainly read something to do it but remember the one. The one thing this job is offering though and i. It's like you go to go bargain-hunting whether it's for a house or whether it's for a car or you go to your department store were walmart or costco and the agent who represents the whoever gets this job is going to be able to negotiate a one way deal and i you're going to get more than general four or five year contract you could get. As as seven or eight years it will be guaranteed. There will be escalators in there. That if the probation goes beyond a certain level you'll get extra years or extra money so it is going to be a fantastic contract. Most contracts are bad. But you can get a generic generic contract or you can a great deal. So there is some attraction and i'll continue to say this until proven wrong but the expectations at tennessee zero. This is not someone coming in after phillip fulmer who had won a national championship. This is someone coming in. After jeremy pruitt who proved to be incompetent and inept at this position. So it's not a hard act to follow. It's not hard at all. This isn't replacing. nick saban. This is replacing. Jeremy pruitt and because of that. It's easier because fans are thirsty. They're hungry. They're desperate to get behind the winner. You're danny white either. Data's press conference talk about social media and he encouraged fan be more positive and that has been a problem at tennessee there is. There's an air of negativity. I had coaches who've been there before. Tell me say this as a member of the media and someone who had a reputation myself at one time that the feeling is that the local media. Knoxville is tough on the head. Coach at tennessee is any place in the sec. And that has turned people off now. Whether that means that people like butch jones or jeremy pruitt were too thin skinned or not really ready for prime time as a whole nother story. We'll take a break more to come more of your phone calls and more many more guests as we continue here on a monday afternoon. You're listening to the paul finebaum. Show podcast we are back. We appreciate you being here on a monday afternoon. And butch is calling next good afternoon. How you doing I'm a few years older than you. And and then. I was born in memphis tennessee wondering and i think you were well. I think yes and But i moved. Houston texas Right before my eleventh birthday was raised in houston and You went to game cold stadium and then mentally the astrodome and whatever and grew up in the era with ernie banks and willie mays and roberto clementi and hank aaron and they were heroes. A mind eventually became a college baseball player. And but when my youth i would go to the dome. And i would watch and i kinda sit on the opposite side and look into the visitors. Dugout and Is no no offensive. Mystere and everything like that but i used to watch him chain smoke in the dugout During the game. Okay and everything. A lot of people did that then. You know back in those days and all that day whatever but that was off by him he was not a big man at all but he had risks that are like a two hundred and sixty pounds offensive. Linemen huge risks and everything. I work like crazy with barbells. Trying to make my wrist like that but it was g what that but anyway but but i remember that man being so nice I was him a bunch of times. And i was at a milo hamilton Dinner and houston when he came back to honor milo 'cause he made the call on the radio and it was his call he was home announcer and and and met him and got to talk with them. Milo wanted me to meet him and we became good friends and stuff and everything what. What a gracious person. It ended up much awake by that time. But but What a great person he was and he was a hero of a lot of people. And i wanna to say this the people. There's one big thing Fourteen years earlier when roger marris was to break babe. Ruth's record for the season. He got nasty letters and nasty phone calls. We're his hair was even coming out. He didn't even want to break the record and he was a white man. Okay and i understand the the way things are today and they make a big thing about it and all that deal in crazies. Need that stuff. And mr aaron got nasty letters and stuff like that whatever but per the baseball fans in america they were so excited and i think the ratings on tv. You would know that more than anybody. I mean everybody's excited about henry breaking that record and they couldn't. They couldn't wait to watch until they did it. And all that. And i had a Texas and my teammate. doug row. He was on the bench when he broke the record. Ralph garbutt game a friend of mine which was in ruins best friend and then the umpire behind home plate when he hit the the seven hundred. Fourteen don't run Seven fifteen home. Run atlanta satch davidson. It became a friend of matters. Well he's not with us anymore. But so i don't know a lot of people were involved in that deal. Whatever and everybody was for hank. Aaron i was a class act. He wasn't a bad person. Great person and there's a lot of people that really cared about him. And i just want to make that though What an amazing story. But thanks for sharing all that you've lived quite a life. Yeah well texas am graduate. So i watch you all the time so you better watch yourself. Play don't mess with texas man. I i thank you but yeah what a great conversation. There wasn't amazing era. How about burt in birmingham hebert. You're on the air during him. Hey thanks thing mccall last week you mentioned something about mark emerson. Tom as president I forget how you phrased it Before retiring or something along those lines but they may think how did you think it was odd that he became the president of the nc. Considering three of the five schools he was at there were scandals under his watch. That's interesting yeah I i yeah. I know he was at lsu washington and we're else other the problem. Montana state who was a coach something of an athlete. Or something going on there. Then at lsu there was the great changing and stuff that came out after he left and then it then it connecticut cross out he was there to. We'll tell you this Burt he had a great reputation as a college president. I think he's been a disaster as the president of the nc double a. Because he really is not a leader he just he's an enabler and we saw how ineffective he was or is during this past summer when he he offered nothing in the controversy over whether we should have a football season or not and i think his time is short and it should be. And i'm not normally like that. But i think the nc double asian desperate need of new leadership. And i think he has been very ineffective of hope he goes soon. How about steve up next ohio. Hey steve you're on the air go right ahead. Hey like to talk about This saturday's senior bowl house looking over the roster came out today and they come across colin hills. Name wondering you. Since he quit the team back in october how would he be eligible to play. I if i understand correctly and he did. The senior ball is invitation. And i don't think there is a. I don't think obviously there isn't a specific criterium whether you finish your season or not so. I've seen some strange invites over the years by the senior bowl there. There's always a little bit of a local flavor down there. But i'm i'm glad to see them. Get the opportunity. And i don't know everything that went into his departure from mississippi state and there are two sides of every story. But i do think kyle go should be recognized for for standing up at the time that he did and really being a a symbol of leadership to a lot of people. So i'm glad he's getting that opportunity. I thought he was a phenomenal player. We she had finished at mississippi state. They could have used him but he's often mobile this week. We'll take a break mortar com. More of your phone calls at eight five five four two seven zero eight five new athletic director at mizzou. Excuse me the defensive coordinator mizzou. We've had the athletic director on and he's not new coming back after this.

tennessee paul finebaum alabama hank aaron baseball football sam jones Geico henri aaron tom allen henry keith knoxville Aaron jim brien hank Coach dave clawson john currie henry aaron
Jamie"s Got A Gun

Fame is a Bitch

35:46 min | 1 year ago

Jamie"s Got A Gun

"From workhouse connect in. Aj Benza vein. he likes to be walked on a leash and play really dirty kinky sex tapes. CBS The guy. Put the cock in the peacock network. Okay Bitch Hey everybody. Aj Bend to here with famous bitch. This is your show for January. Twenty seven twenty twenty. Obviously What I'm going to speak about can compare to what just happened? Twenty five minutes ago. Kobe Bryant going down the helicopter. Uh It has to be the biggest death of an athlete in my lifetime. I and probably for ever Lou GEHRIG. Of course the New York Yankees way back that was a big one Roberto Clementi Thurman Munson Len biased. There is a handful of shockers. But nothing compares to this. Nobody was on the level of Kobe with five championship. Rings eighteen trips to to the all star game. I mean just phenomenal phenomenal resume. Oh God if you live in L. A.. You know he is is just on the Mount Rushmore of Los Angeles. He's probably on the Mount Rushmore event of the NBA. But kind of tough to go on and do his shell. That's not going to talk about about him exclusively but I will have. I will have stories on Kobe probably tomorrow because I want to get into his whole career and not going to rush that in particular the rape case That's important I. I don't WanNa put a damper on on things but it is part of the man's life it was part of his legacy and listen. I don't WanNa be the guy that turns off the lights at the party but as much as we're going to Miss Kobe Bryant. For many years there was a faction of people who just fucking had it with him. His family being one to them you know he's he. He was on the outside his mom and dad they. They don't talk as much as you do with. Your family. his teammates had issues with them in particular Shaquille Shaquille O'Neal but look that's why I say that's way today because right now nobody wants to hear those stories but I wanna get you anyhow. We'll get to that like I said the day For me here. I'm watching brain games with the kids. I love that show and we love that shows a family but it hasn't been on for a while so you know we see this a new season. Hey Cool we love a new season of brain games now. The first season they had Neil Patrick Harris as the host. I can't with that I I just can't just a little too smug for me I appreciate his acting and his overall image resume. You Know Stage Movie Atv Dancer. Whatever the fuck but I lost it when they asked him how I met your mother as the straight guy who always always gets a Lotta Pussy? Come on just stop Hollywood. Why not cast in mckellen as James Bond for Fuck Sake Sake? Anyhow seasons two through seven went with this kid named Jason Silva Good Guy. I love this kids. Work came out of nowhere. Brain Brain Games majored sink. And you could participate with the family in front of the TV. That's very rare nowadays shows that put the family together. Sometimes I don't WanNA scream and watching my shows. My daughter's online my son is watching Tick Tock videos. Jesus remember when we all used to watch while L. Kingdom or even all in the family. I know I'm dating myself but I don't give a shit. Though show's brought a family together and now they got that penny as Keegan Michael Key. He's the new host and I can't like this guy I liked the show key and Peele. But he's another smug smug prick that. I just can't I can't with this guy. He's made the show very loud and uproarious and always looked at him. Like one of those old black performers who are being paid to make Whitey laugh you get you know what I mean he's D shucking and jiving. He must be embarrassed or other. Black folk must be embarrassed for him the shell which was once a show that had a great great pace to it. Because it made you think like I said and it wasn't about you know in your face madness. You want that. Go Watch Ellen's game of games. Whatever the hell it's called you talking pies in the face people slide down slide? Whatever Jerky Shit? But you know the day I stopped liking Keegan Keegan. Michael Key Kegalle Keegan. Michael Key was when he was interviewed on the Joe Rogan podcast and he was talking about. How comedy is not really his truest passion and he he he does more than that? You love drama. He loves serious. He studied serious acting and he said to Rogan. That comedy is just one thing he he said and he actually said this. I have another Arrow in my quiver. Go Fuck yourself all you've got another Arrow in your quiver. I've never heard an actor. You give me your all time greats. The fucking Barrymore's never said something like that about quiver. My phone's going off the hook right now. I shut the everybody's telling me Kobe's at an hour later I was looking at it at eleven twenty seven when I texted me anyhow anyhow By the way the did What I tell you the other day about female singers who suddenly have to tell us that they suffer from something? Remember and as if on cue from what I was just saying if you days ago Taylor Swift has to inform us that she wants struggle with an eating disorder. Yeah it's going to be revealed in a her new documentary that she used to starve herself after seeing Paparazzi photos that she didn't like she found unfavorable favorable. It's called Taylor swift it's called Miss Americana and it premiered at the Sundance Film Festival last week and it she said it only happened in a few times in a not in any way proud of it. Then shut the fuck up. But there's a picture of me where I feel like I looked like my tummy was to bigger or someone said that I looked pregnant and that will just trigger me. Just start a little bit. Just stop eating. Aren't we all like this. Don't we all see pictures we don't like what would she have done. You know twenty five years ago when somebody grabbed an instamatic took a picture and you have to wait a week. 'cause you went to fold them out to have the pictures pitches developed. When they came back you had twenty four pictures in the role of film? Maybe twelve sixteen of them. Your eyes were either closed or read like the devil yet about three to choose from that you might WanNa put in your phone allow album or the fucking corny collage on the wall but these bastards now you know I have to start myself. Shut the fuck up. Just how much more famous do you WANNA be. You what are you worried about your making tens uh-huh of millions of dollars nobody cares. I got news your most of your fans are oversized fourteen. They look at you like a toothpick fucking people are insane and she goes my relate. You know our my relationship with food was exactly the same psychology that I apply to everything else in my life. If I was given a pat on the head I registered as good if I was given a punishment I registered. That is bad. That's only all do anyhow. It's sometimes these assholes after. Call him out. Because I told you last week. Everybody's got an illness. Everybody's a victim of something. We all need to feel. Sorry for people any I look. Here's the Gysi of the meat of today's show the Harvey Weinstein trial had a familiar face on Friday my ex-girlfriend often Kara young testified. I had no idea this was going to happen. I let me just say this. I'll tell you why when I watch snippets of the Harvey Weinstein Trial. It's been obvious to me that he is producing this trial. Like I said a long time ago. People with a lot of money who being used to bossing people around or like this if if they ever have to face a jury that could you know that could put them away for life. Harvey Weinstein is a producer. A Big One and the way he had a list of attorneys come. Common goal is exactly the way producer or studio had taste meetings with directors and actors when he has a property he wants to make into a beautiful and powerful film. He's had over a dozen lawyers at least sit down with him and he's fired a dozen dozen more who didn't see this trial or his situation the way he sees it. So let's go and it's no different than having creative differences over a movie or a play or TV series. You know and and by the way he's got nothing to do either he's got no job. No office the check in with every day so this is consumed him but basically he's essentially acting like a a paralegal to these attorneys and that can be dangerous lawyers don't like this style cramped. He had a natural guy man. He had been Bronfman. I've been a real New Yorker this home court trial for Ben Bronfman if he would have kept him home game. Ben Brought Him Great Puffy puffy combs trial years ago. Go puffy had weapons. Possession and bribery charges in Brompton was lead guy. I'll give you an idea of how well respected and good he is. He was the lead and co counsel with Johnny Cochran. Johnnie Cochran was basically the side kit council puffy wanted Johnny. They're like You know I respect Johnny. I want him here kind of thing and puffy walked. That's that was a big victory and by the way Ben Broth and not. The tallest guy stood next. Two hundred seventy street. Maybe five foot one. But he's fierce as a mother fucker and this was a case that had witnesses that saw puffy we do things and he ripped through like a pit bull. His preparation is always intense. He prepares the same. Whether you're the guy who can afford the best so you can't afford the best. He's great at this. When you're in front of a jury you have to be yourself? That's the main thing that's what a lot of great lawyers will tell you and he is. If you're not yourself okay can tell. Michael Jackson also hired him when he had when he had bonk Erebus on his team. And you know he said that they missed. He said recently. Recently Mr Weinstein did not invent the casting couch in Hollywood. Bad behavior is not on trial in this case and that led me to believe that they were going to go for a defense said said well okay. Perhaps something's inappropriate some relationships with people I work with whatever but you know it was all consensual. They seem to be going forelock. Hey this isn't necessarily criminal sort of defense but then Weinstein lift Bronfman go because they had creative differences assist. They butted heads Rothman. Had an idea and harvey would run these ideas by other attorneys and he would get second opinions and that's always a problem novel. But that's what he does. Then he hires Casey Anthony's attorney Jose Baez who. I've been with that guy backstage in Fox at the Geraldo show and and other other other shows and he's a character you know. There's there's a story that perhaps Casey Anthony paid him in other ways than cash. If you know would I mean. But he's a guy that bonds with the jury you know he'll walk in every Good Morning Ladies and gentlemen of the jury how are you this morning and they they love it they enter him back. He also rep Aaron Hernandez who was already convicted of murder being tried for a double murder and he gets a fucking not guilty verdict because he created a relationship with the jury. Trust me. I think that was the big difference. Also he makes great opening statement and he's great at closing closing arguments Bruce Cutler did the same thing with John Gotti. I was there for many of those Court cases so he was headed for a third time with a super high profile case. It seemed in the court of public opinion that Harvey Weinstein was going to be found guilty but the way the public talks about him and then they had a falling out. Then Harvey brought in Howard Sullivan. Who who's a Harvard Guy? No good and now he's he's got his New York lawyers that I think are excellent and blow them are married husband and wife team authorized dollar. WHO's a TV personality? He's got a good warm presence. He's guys guy he's buddy buddy with caught offices a walk through the halls. Have a Yankee game. Can you believe what they did to To Stan last night and the the the office love him. He's great down at the food court getting coffee not food corporate getting coffee talking Shit. How about ally manning adding yesterday? They love that Shit. A lot of lawyers don't do that a lot of laws put their nose up in the and they're to fucking good but like authorized Allah loves that and he's married to Marianne tuna very prestigious lawyer. They got a firm together and their associates. Name Diana Samson she's a former Manhattan. Da It's a very sweet story. Her husband proposed to her in a boat in central park. Very New York City. Couple big wedding three hundred people there. That's a New York team. That's what Harvey's got but because Harvey does nothing small. He's got more he needed. He needed something to compete was whatever the the prosecution acution would bring he. He wanted to have his team more complete so he brings the stars from Chicago. Donna tuna forty two year old criminal defense fence Laura. She was a prosecutor at one point. She's the lead attorney from Chicago and also Damon. Sharon's and listen. Tony is one of the foremost lawyers in the sexual assault field anywhere. She that's her expertise and having a female in this position is very important. It's still a little more comfortable for a woman to do cross which by the way has to be very effective but for a woman to do a AH in a case that's about sexual assault is very important because you got to undermine the credibility of women as you do it in for man to do it it can be look at like I don't know You know some women might think it's the guys being to touch when a woman does it. You don't have that thinking thinking but that's bread and butter. In fact she has lost sexual assault case since twenty ten. I mean ten years. Being undefeated is unheard of. She's also very relatable. She's not the kind of chick who Works for only white collar. People and I read some. She wrote for Newsweek. She wrote an op Ed for Newsweek. And she said my father always told me to never let emotions cloud your intellect on the issue of Harvey Weinstein Prosecution between the passionate activists and the formidable advocates assisted by the media. My father's lesson as often disregarded so this this woman not only believes Harvey Weinstein is not guilty. She believes he's innocent. It's a big difference. And that's the reason in my opinion why she is on the team so this was surprising to me as the defense was going at Annabella Sealdah the wonderful Actress who said Harvey raped her in the nineties. The nineteen ninety-four exactly. I saw the car young. My ex girlfriend was called to testify. Now I didn't know this yes I had no idea she was going to be called in. She didn't tell me she had just been in. La with her family. Usually she calls me. We meet for coffee or dinner and this time. She didn't and I saw the on instagram that she was in town. And I didn't WanNA bugger. She has your things to do. She got nieces and nephews and family and this time I found it on. I didn't even get a phone call. And then I see. She's being grilled by authorized dollar when she got back to New York. And then it made sense so I'd Allah was grilling and a and matter of fact he was so tough. The judge actually shutdown questioning on Friday. After I doubt got very aggressive with first of all I gotta tell you. I don't think it went went. Well for Annabel's Kiara as well as she may think. Put it that way I know she She told me way back last February that she I was nervous to go up there and talk. She wasn't even sure she would even testify I think it showed because right away they expose the fact that she he's been She's been caught in the past telling elaborate elaborate tales. Put it that way. They found clip for the David Letterman. Show which by the way had been scrubbed rug from the Internet but they found it and in that clip of the show. She's telling David Letterman Something to the effect of. I'm going to be careful now. How answer answer questions? I've been known to tell long tales for example she wants. Her father had an iguana farm and she wants said also so that her and another actress live together in Paris which is not neither one of those things is true and look. She was young she wanted to. You Know Oh she wanted to take a lot of interviews that press junkets for a ride I get it. It gets boring repeating the same shit all the time for those of you who don't understand what press junkets junkets or like you sit there and a number of people from different newspapers and websites. Common ask the same bullshit questions. It gets tiring so you want to spruce it up up. I've been there and I've been there and it's been because Harvey's told me you've got twelve interviews today that started five am time be on your tolls. Don't fuck it up. We gotTA sell this book and after a while you just got. Yeah whatever so. She told some tales that made things fun. She spiced it up opening. You know in fact. It's usually a good practice if you're an actor to tell a law and see if you can get out of it you know but they jumped on that and it didn't make her look good. You know I can't say what she did is bad. I've done it. We've all done it at times but none of us think it's GonNa come back to poke holes in are rape trial down the road. So I'm surprised I see Kara. Is there you know. And she was with Annabella in the nineties. They've been friends for very long time. And apparently one night in the nineties At Abella and car and some friends all you watch the Academy Awards together at the artist. Julian Schnabel's loft down in the West village and car said she noticed missed cuts on Annabel's thighs and she said in court. I asked her. What those cuts were and if she was cutting herself and that's the way car car is she gets right to the fucking point she don't care the truth is everything to her and Annabella admitted that she was cutting itself? So Weinstein's lawyer authorized. Allah begins his line of questioning by asking car if Annabella war close short enough even winter to expose the scars and it continues with a series of rapid fire questions directed at Kara which led to the judge James Burke to interrupt idolatry and ordered him to sit down and he'll by this time he'd also ignored multiple objections from the prosecution but he wanted to call a really hard. Did you seek. You're getting medical intervention for your friend. Did you talk to anyone about how to help your friend. Did you do anything at all to help your friend. Long thin scratches. What were they tell me like like scratches from a cat? And then he went on crazy and I know Kara when she's put against the wall like that I know her. I know tips. She'll start scratching a knows. I know she doesn't like that kind of treatment. I thought he was going to ask. Did you order the Code Red. You know like Nicholson my God son. We live in a world that has walls and those walls have to be guarded by men with guns. WHO's GonNa do it? You You Lieutenant Weinberg Eric. I have a greater responsibility than you can possibly fathom you weep for Santiago and you curse the Marines. You have that luxury you allowed that luxury of not knowing what I know that Santiago's death while tragic probably saved lives Chico and I saw that movie When it came out and he went again the next day alone and he memorized the whole fucking thing he used to do it for people at restaurants nightclubs? I would say cheek due Colonel Jesse my God. Chico had such a memory he used to call a total recall. Anyhow the judge eventually interrupted dala spoke to the lawyers privately and then he dismissed car and she was seen leaving the courthouse in tears. I texted her and said if it's any consolation you look beautiful walking out there but I spoke through Saturday and she told me she'd been bothered about testifying for a year and by the way she also was getting calls From Oprah Winfrey about the Russell Simmons Documentary and at one point. She answered call Russell and said. I don't think you're GONNA WANNA be friends with me after this documentary entry. And he told her I don't care. I walked this doc to get made. I want people to hear my side and looking back. Last as February. was when Kerr called me and asked if Annabella could have my number Because you WanNa talk about the fact that she was his At a film festival and saw that I was in a documentary about Harvey. In this whole thing you know I guess you you know. She's been going through a lot. Obviously she also told me she was sequestered in a room for hours and she warned me. When I go to New York I bet a hit the head before I get to court because once you're in that room you can't leave to pay so I guess I'm not taking my blood pressure medications that they cause there's a You know That those pills make you pay. I ain't doing that shit but I told I told Carl what I tell. Oh you guys. And that is this how I can't see a woman talking to or remaining friends with her rapist you know. She can't tell me why but she does admit women have a problem going back to abusers There's there's an ex tennis pro that she told me about that. I've known the story named Vojtech Fiba. WHO's a real creep? and He tried to push himself on her one night before I knew her and I used to always hope I ran into this motherfucker so I could deal with them but it turns out Donald Trump dealt with him when he was dating which which I think is fantastic. It's a great story. It's a real creepy scandal. It was a huge deal in France That the tech DOC. I'm sorry that Vojtech feedback was involved in back in nineteen ninety eight and it reads like a synopsis for Trashy Airport Novel. Scott sex movie stars politicians Arab princes arm deals and a publicity hungry judge who took them all all down and the case uncovers the the brutal methods used to to snare a lot of young women. Some as young as fifteen years old into into a call girl agency which specialized in wealthy high profile clients the case also exposed attempts by the French government went to block an investigation which would have embarrassed. The politicians an damage French interest abroad and in this particular case six. The people were charged with running an international prostitution ring whose call girls entertained. Ready not only feedback feeback but also Robert Deniro to senior French politicians and a bunch of Gulf princes among others. What happened was the agency? Didn't see was specializing in tricking trapping. starstruck teenage girls into selling their bodies with the promise that they'd have careers as models or actresses and at one point according to the report of the investigative draw a judge the agency became kind of approved dealer dealer in girls and they operated with the blessing of the French Foreign Ministry and the French secret services so by steering Middle East arm clients arms clients actually towards girls from a known and closely watched agency. They thought they'd be a reduced risk of blackmail or the leaking of secret negotiations. So the leaks from the French investigation investigation eventually suggested that the agency wants brokered almost a million dollar almost a million dollar deal for an Arab prince to spend the night with a Hollywood actress. They don't name the Hollywood actress But the files of clients of the names that were seized by the police are said to include a many well known own members of sports and show Biz jet said people on both sides of the Atlantic and the initial name. That emerged back in ninety. Eight was DeNiro Also feedback but he didn't carry the same weight as Deniro. Sometimes you guys see these things on facebook about Deniro being evolved in a coal goal ring. This is also a French producer. Name Elaine Elaine. saw so deniro was kind of arrested so to speak and he was question Shen only as a witness and an occasional client of these prostitutes. There were two principal people accused. And you've never heard of them. Jean Pierre Bourgeois who was a failed fashion photographer and Anita Brew Mark. who was was a Swedish model? She was a Swedish model and a one time beauty queen. What would go on? Basically was bourgeois would hang out Paris nightclubs or casting agencies that he would scout for these possible victims and he picked on young women mostly teenagers and teenagers. Ages are always going out and I mean you go to France. There are thirteen fourteen year. Old Girls at nightclubs also girls from England and Eastern Europe and he would invite them back to his apartment in this beautiful area in France and he would take some trial photocells Dell's and after he gained confidence. The judge said that he would persuade them to pose for more revealing pictures and the girls were then convinced. That prostitution was the best way to get into modeling or movie careers and if they refused they were blackmailed. Melt blackmail threat that the photos would be sent to their families and in some cases they were simply kidnapped. Several girls in the investigation talked about the bourgeois. Raping them so the pictures. These girls basically circulated around possible clients. it was gross. It was gross thing and this is what happens to young girls particularly models annals when they go overseas the whole thing fell apart when they expanded the operation into the Arab market in one thousand nine hundred ninety six and there was some big old Lebanese businessman. I his name is too long. Nobody knows him but it all fell apart. But anyhow this vojtech feeback dude was a pig and car never forgot what he tried to due to her one night at a party you see. Unlike other women who befriend there would be rapists. She avoided him for years. which is exactly what I think? Women should do accept so many. Don't so one night she's having dinner with with With trump at this big table of people and feeback walks in and he sits down and Kara leans over Intel's trump trump that she's not comfortable Because what he tried to do to her years earlier so trump just shouts across the table table. My girlfriend says you attacked her and she can't eat with you here so you gotta go and he slaved away and he said well where shall I go and trump said. I don't give a fuck but you can't stay here and I fucking love that but here's what I think about Annabella and why she looked bad. Listen saying that. She wasn't sure if what Harvey did to her was rate really makes my brain hurt art. She thought a rape consisted of a stranger. Trumping out from a dark alley and and you know Doing it behind founded dumpster. Shit like that. Not a famous producer allegedly forcing her to have sex with him. I a. and listen. I know more than a few of you have written me and I'm sorry if I acted angry or indifferent but I'll just you know. Look I will never believe you've quote unquote experts. Who testified that many women remained friends with their rapist? I know about this. I read everything. I I love when you guys tip me off and say hey that you see I know I read everything I get up at four o'clock in the morning I'm on top top all sorts of shit. It's not foreign to me but I will always judge women in general by the women men who raised me and the ones I live with now and I don't know any of them who would stay in touch with a man who they say raped them. Annabella didn't look good saying she wasn't sure what rape was especially considering she'd she'd already just starred in a movie called the hand that rocks the cradle in whitchurch character is molested by her doctor and she goes to authorities authorities which results in others coming forward and the doctor killing himself which sends his pregnant wife played by right. Rebecca de Mornay into miscarriage and vowing revenge and it was Alabama's biggest movie did did she not learn anything from that. She never told anyone in twenty five years. Why is is it so hard for me to believe that someone who felt like she was raped? Wouldn't say anything to anyone for twenty in five years and listen it doesn't diminish what happened but it does diminish the provability if if she was raped forcibly entered. She's got a duty to herself and other women to call the police and report a rape and as much as there are women who here this and WanNa yell and scream at me. You know you should consider how rape survivors feel. They don't understand how these women wait over twenty years to come forward. What and they go to the cops? What if I happened? I know why some may think maybe she wanted to continue her movie career others others would vow to get his ass in prison regardless of what had happened regardless of any career. There's also school of thought that these women them kept quiet and enabled him and they should be ashamed of themselves and Annabella was one of those people enabling him by not reporting it. If it if it did indeed happen the way she describes how do you not know it's fucking array. How stupid can she be to not know what allegedly happened was raped? I call all bullshit on this one. My guess is that it was a quid pro quo say yes to sex. You get a movie deal. Aw He got something she got something. Is it wrong. Sure is rape on not so sure because just a couple of years after that she starred in cop land which Harvey also produced I. I believed Annabel's claims until is revealed that she emailed a friend as recently as twenty seventeen in which she stated aided that she hoped Harvey would have a job for me. Ask yourself guys. If you've been rate would you want to accept a job from your rapist. This is as ridiculous as Mia Farrow claiming woody molested her daughter and then showing up on the set of I dunno Manhattan. Murder mystery expecting that she still be playing the female L.. Lead in the movie. Who the fuck would do that answer? Nobody I'm AJ dancer. And that was your show for January. Twenty seven twenty twenty and I'll talk. Here's Mark Thank you for listening in a famous a bitch is an AJ Benza. WORKHOUSE connect production featuring the endless wisdom insightful commentary sometimes fucked up perspective of Aj Benza. `Executive Producer Mike vino technical producer Brian Vasquez.

Harvey Weinstein Annabella Kara young producer rape Kobe Bryant AJ Benza New York Hollywood Annabel Shaquille Shaquille O'Neal Donald Trump Lou GEHRIG peacock network CBS New York Yankees France Neil Patrick Harris assault Paris
Deep Dive on The Cleveland Name Change

Baseball Tonight with Buster Olney

36:39 min | 10 months ago

Deep Dive on The Cleveland Name Change

"Baseball tonight the PODCAST. This is the baseball tonight podcast for Tuesday July seven, two, thousand twenty Kelly. Schwenk is producing from his home studio in the foothills of Connecticut I'm buster only and I'm working for my own studio in New York Major. League baseball released its schedule The sixty game season on Monday evening, and as reported before they'll start on July twenty third with a champion Washington nationals, playing host to the Yankees Max Scherzer versus Garrett. Garrett Cole. The pitchers haven't been outs- formerly. But that's who we assume will be on the mound later that day the giants will play at Los. Angeles in the second game of that opening doubleheader Jackie Robinson Day usually celebrated April. Fifteenth will be pushed back to August twenty eighth. That's the date that Martin Luther King. Junior led the march on Washington in nineteen, sixty three, and the date that the Brooklyn dodgers owner branch rickey talked Robinson. Robinson in one thousand, nine, forty-five about a future in the majors, one hundredth anniversary of the Negro Leagues will be celebrated on August Sixteenth Roberto Clementi Day will be held on September ninth, but this announcement came at the end of a turbulent day early in this effort to get back to work Sean. doolittle of the national told reporters Sunday that he'd not gotten test results back from Corona. Virus test from Friday will on Monday the national. National still had not received results from those Friday tests in general manager Mike Rizzo canceled the team's workout and issued a blunt stay bench set in part without accurate and timely testing. It is simply not safe for us to continue with Summer Camp Major League. Baseball needs to work quickly to resolve issues with your process and their lab, otherwise summer camp in the two thousand and twenty season or at risk, according to the Washington, Post. Commissioner Rob Manfred was not happy about those words came down like a ton of bricks privately on Mike Rizzo. The Astros also cancelled a workout. The Oakland Athletics held their very first workout on Monday evening after delays in their testing protocol. Major League Baseball released a statement that read like this. Unfortunately, several situations included unforeseen delays. We address the delays caused by the holiday weekend and do not expect a reoccurrence amid all of these concerns, veteran outfielder Nick Marquess the Atlanta. Braves highly respected within the game announced that he's opting out in explained why Vegas thing is so I, talked to Freddie Freeman the other day and You know just here in the way he sounded on the phone on openly is and the. Freddie didn't sound good I hope he's doing good hope. He's healthy. Eating I know these guys. Need him more than anybody and You know just to hear him. He sounded on the phone You know it was tough. It was kind of I opening and With with everything that's going on. Not just in baseball in the world it. Makes you open your eyes and got three kids? That I missed for eleven years now and. I love the game. I love competing every day. On. The biggest thing you know my decision is. We. Play this game for the fans, and you know to be able to go out there on a daily basis and compete and entertain for them. You know that's what it's all about. Kris Bryant of the cubs was deeply critical of what's happened so far in the effort to return to the field. I detested on Tuesday in. The second one was was today. Say Monday Seguin was yesterday. and I know it sounds stupid to complain about that, and I'm not trying to be tested by any means you because there's a lot about struggling in need tests, and you know a generally want that to come across, but at the same time like you know M, O be created slab, and did all the stuff to you know. Be Able to run a season in. You know like I, said I. Feel like this is one of the I know. There's going to be hiccups, but you just can't hit up with this. You know because it could just be one day where it just ruins everything you know, so. We really ought to be on top of this thing and. You know flew out Oakland Reliever Jake. Men and we had on the podcast a couple of weeks ago. because he's high risk given his medical history blasted the delays in the MLB test results. Quote was a feel like deep down. Every player has in the back of their mind that this is all going to fall apart amid all this. The Yankees held an intra squad scrimmage last night it was. was on the Yes. Network Aaron Judge Participated and declared himself ready to go same with center fielder. Aaron Hicks WHO's coming back from Tommy John. Surgery Yankees play another inter-squad game today and Garrett Cole beyond the mound Aaron Noah joined the phillies and told reporters that part of the reason he'd been held out was because he'd been exposed to someone who recently tested positive for corona virus. DIAMONDBACKS outfielder Kole Calhoun. Calhoun has tested positive for Kobe nineteen, but he is a symptomatic and President Donald. Trump criticized the recent decisions to change not named the Cleveland Franchise in a tweet he wrote they named teams out of strength, not weakness, but now the Washington redskins and Cleveland Indians to fabled sports franchises look like they're going to be changing their names. In order to be politically, correct will be not talking about whether or. or not politically correct, but we will be talking about that change coming up before we continue. We need to talk about our friends at marathon oil now more than ever. We have to look out for each other in count on each other marathon. Want you to know that you can count on them for high quality top tier gas marathon. Gasoline's are formulated with S teepee additives. They keep your vehicle running. Running at peak performance by optimizing fuel economy, removing those ugly deposit buildups in by reducing emissions and right now you can get five cents off every gallon every day with make it count rewards marathon, plus you can earn points for additional savings on fuel airfare, hotels and more. This is definitely a deal you can count on. It's quick and easy to joint. Just download the free make count APP or go. Go to make it count dot com slash radio. Start Saving today. This offers valid only at participating marathon stations. Remember wherever you need to go be safe. The people at Marathon are behind you all the way before we continue. We need to mention our friends at Shell. Here's a fact for you. Not all synthetic motor oils are created the same crude oil like a bag of midst match rocks all different. Different sizes and shapes coming together. Natural gas is more like a bag of marbles. All uniform in size and shape designed to work together reducing friction in your engine. That's why I went. Pennzoil reinvented motor oil. They started with natural gas. Not Crude Pennzoil Synthetics Base Oil is ninety nine point five percent free from the impurities. You'd find crude oil so the next time you need to change your oil remembered. Remembered ask for pennzoil synthetic motor oil made from natural gas. It gives you unbeatable engine protection. The proof is in the pennzoil based on sequence Ivy, a test using sae five W. thirty before we get to Anthony Castro vents just want to let you know the audio quality of Mayan. We were having some issues with that, so it's not of the highest quality. Thanks for working through us with that. Prevented Day national writer for L. Dot Com after years of covering the Cleveland Indians and he's the author of the new book. A FAN'S GUIDE TO BASEBALL ANALYTICS WHY WAR WHIP woven other advanced sabermetrics are essential to understanding modern baseball. Anthony, how you doing while stir on well man, just trying to stay safe and sane at the same time if that's possible. In on a given day, it feels like sane and. Sane is much of a challenge is trying to say safe I'M GONNA. Ask You about your book in a moment but i. You wrote a great piece the other day about the Cleveland Franchise Name Change and we'll start with this if felt like the the idea of them, reviewing it and changing their name was inevitable even a few years ago. Yes. Yeah absolutely I. Mean this conversations you know been going on very long time. I've I've found it humorous and people say it's almost like a generational thing and and people are more easily offended now I mean this the Indians name and logo back with a still Hatschi. ticketed. Opening Day longer than I've been alive and you go back. Stanford changed from the Indians to the cardinals, and Nineteen seventy-two for crying out loud before the DA's, so it's not like a new issue. It's been bubbling to the surface for a long time and I think those of us who grew up here in Cleveland in our heart of hearts. We we always knew the name was awkward at best to have a name tied to an entire race of people so obviously you know in this conversation our country, right? Right now that this is finally come to the forefront. You've seen in recent days right Cisco Lindores. He's in favor. You know spreading more love, peace and happiness. You've seen Terry Francona. Save time to move forward. I don't know the living person with more emotional stake in the Cleveland Indians and Terry Francona so for him to say that it's not a small thing. No and my sense is that people within the organization have been very uncomfortable with it with with the name, and they certainly were the logo for years. Yes. Yeah absolutely on the bottom line for me. If, you're going to have a sports team. Nickname that represents an entire race of people. It had better be a clear and uncomplicated positive. You know not in any way negative, but as we know, well, you know. The Term Indians is rife with complication, it means different things to different people has been used as a slur in our in our nation's history. You know it was used as a slur against Louis sockalexis the the player who allegedly inspired the name in the first place, although that origin story largely appear to be bunk to begin with, but you know so we're. We're just having a recalibration right now, and then that complication is is finally coming to ahead. All right when you wrote this piece the other day and MLB DOT COM. You ran through the history of the name Tell me how you got to where he got to the end where you, you felt like there was an obvious choice for the name. Yeah so you know the the name Indians was attributed to the team kind of colloquially, and when they were the Cleveland spiders in the late eighteen hundreds 'cause they had Louis Sockalexis for three years and you know he was a popular player I and really a tragic figure. alcoholism religious, short career and so you fast forward fifteen. Fifteen years and the American league franchise now went through several name changes, and in one thousand nine hundred fifteen nap Lajoie away, They're they're great. Second Basement had been sold to Philadelphia so they could be a Cleveland naps anymore. They gather for sports writers together off from the four local papers. which that's how long ago it was a bus. and they got them together, and they come up with a name and you know we can. We can surmise that Indians was probably considered an option just because again. The team had sort of been known that you know The alternate nickname I, guess in the eighteen hundreds, but really that the primary driver all evidence points the primary driver of the name change being that the miracle braves a year earlier you know won the world series, so that baseball then is now copycat business, so that's kind of how we landed there, and then the mythology of Louis Sockalexis Kinda took over years later. You GO JOE PAS nasty. You know great you know person in our business research this and find no mention of Louis sockalexis at all nineteen fifteen cleveland paper, so if it was the primary driver of the name at the time they had a funny way of showing it, so you know now we get. The mythology takes over and and the law who love. Is finally in the back burner, and not to get commercialistic about all buster, but the fact that matters that from a marketing perspective, they're severely limited by their own nickname, which is a really preposterous position to be in. Yeah, they've had a lot of internal discussion. They stopped the import of local advertising perms on what to do to replace chief Wahoo and out of respect to indigenous people and their symbols. There's just nothing you can do. With Indians name I, guess you could do like an interlocking, ci or something like that but. There's not much you can do with the actual name itself so if you get away from even the cultural implications, it's kind of fun to think about what a rebrand might mean in terms of names and logos, and and the fun stuff that sports are supposed to be associated with. And you ran through the possibilities. In your article, we talk in the podcast yesterday about some of the some of the potential nicknames that have history. The four cities now is surprised Taylor. producer. The podcast David Schoenfield yesterday. They like four cities and I kind of felt like it doesn't really roll off the tongue You wrote about the blues. That was the name of the team at one point. Dobie is something that has been mentioned. Joel Sherman wrote about this in the New York Post the other day I. Don't feel like it sounds like a great name of a team, but. certain people Arab need some people have different perspective on that, but you landed on the name of a team that is infamous in baseball history. I'm very pro spider foster. PRESENCE IN IN CLEVELAND. Baseball history that spiders. They famously went twenty and one thirty four in eighteen, ninety nine, but all it takes, is you know two seconds of research to understand that the owners intentionally tank that team they gave away all their best players to another team. They own paint Louis, which is pretty crazy to think about. even played one hundred and twelve games on the road, so I don't think the nickname. Nickname in Florence the result too much giving those circumstances and anyway team performance matters and Cleveland's First Baseball Championship came via the spiders in eighteen, ninety five. They won the Temple Cup so buster. That's one championship in thirteen years for the spiders and just two in one hundred five years for the Indians with none since nineteen forty eight. Come on Hulu. It's better now, but fighters idioms. When you wrote the peace and curious about the response that you've got separated from all the people who are upset that the Indians name is coming off it, but in terms of the possible ideas moving forward. What type of response did you hear from fans? There's been a lot of names bandied about as as you mentioned teams Tied through the history, and not sided mystery, and I've heard Cleveland rocks, but we already have Colorado Rockies, so that would be needlessly confusing and cleveland rockers, which was a WNBA franchise here at one time There's been a lot of stuff out there, but I don't know it's just me, but it's just one man's opinion, but I haven't seen anything that moves me like spiders I've gotten some pushback from people with Arachnophobia. But I remind them. It's not like you know unless the payroll gets really low. It's not like actual spiders. SPIDERS will be playing field you don't you come into the Ballpark? You don't touch US fighter. You have to sit next to living spider There's people afraid of wolves and bears and gators and snakes, and all kinds of things have nevertheless inspired great sports nickname I don't worry about that one too much, but I think the Spiderman Franchise is done pretty well too from what I've seen I think you can make spiders work. How do you like wild things? Which of course I? It was mentioned a less forty eight hours. It's fine. It's fine, but I think spiders just has the most marketing potential you know. yeah, wild things is. A. Major League though you know you're. You're kind of getting back to that Indians history a little, so if they are going to start fresh I, say you know. Start fresh going a completely different direction all right? GimMe, informed speculation. Where do you think it's going wind up? Well, you know I've seen a lot of these. It seems like every media outlet in Cleveland some kind of poll on twitter, and that's very scientific. As we know so minor teams to win those polls fighters seems to be the vegas favorite now. Of course we know in baseball, the VEGAS FAVORITE RARELY turns out well, so maybe I should be a concern for spiders net points it's it's a tough thing to be the number one seed billion of this, but I don't know I. I feel like there's so much. Much, there were spiders that I I feel pretty confident about right now. Right Yearbook is called, and I should add I should add one thing buster. That tribe is you know? It's been an alternate nicknames Indians for a very long time, and that is wonder actually making go. William and Mary College went that route when they changed from Indians That is an option on the table I. I don't know if that's the the clear divorce. You know they might go for You know with this particular situation we'll see. Yeah. It feels like if they're gonNA. Go in another direction. They probably want to separate from that entirely. Anthony the name of your book is a Fan's guide to baseball analytics. Why war with Walmart and other advanced sabermetrics are essential to understanding modern baseball What was your inspiration for writing this well? I've been covering MLB for sixteen years now. I've had my own evolution with regard to the use and understanding of of. Of the metrics and that time as I'm sure, you have to bus during that time, it's really been an explosion in our sport. There's no doubt that these numbers do a better job of relaying player performance in team performance, and we had grown up but I also don't think we should ignore or talk down to the still large segment, fans, or simply more comfortable with batting, average and RBI's and wins. ETC, you know the. The Sport and the people who cover it I think we should be inclusive, exclusive and I I don't. I don't WanNa. Make anybody feel stupid. Just because they haven't grasped you know waited runs, created, plus or whip, or whatever I mean. Some of the stuff can sound pretty Wonky, so I tried to just you know. Make it a conversational glossary. You try to keep it light and fun and breezy and easy to embrace. Embrace and some you can turn back to whenever you see. Stat cited somewhere and need a quick refresher course I mean I still get emails all the time from people who don't understand war and stuff, and and don't like seeing it in print so so. I created this. I call the non nerds guide through the nerdy numbers, so I hope that people find it helpful and easy to digest. You know it's interesting 'cause. I get that same responses on social media and people say well why you know. Why don't you use advanced analytics? More and I said to me? That's like speaking a different language. To a group of people do a lot of whom are just simply not going to understand it I will use war, but like waited runs created plus you know adjusted lbs plus I feel like I need a very specific audience before I'm GonNa. Feel comfortable using it. How about you? Yeah we do that and I'll be dot com, because you know, people come from all over to our site. All Level Baseball Fan you get the the intense diehards, and you get the more casual fans, so it's hard. It's really hard to to to walk that line and we have a glossary on our site. You can link to whenever you do site stats. That's helpful, but You, know these I think are important and once you learn them. What's the? They're of demystified You learn just how easy to embrace. They are and how? They do a better job of telling the story of the game, but again the names are are are kind of a barrier to entry, just because they are a little unusual, and not what we're used to, but especially in the season like this buster. If we're GONNA have a six game season here with. The counting stats that we grew up with the won't be in play hundred, RBI will not be possible. thirty home runs will not be possible in all likelihood, so you know I, think the the rate stats and these advanced astle be all the more important to kind of gauge where guys are relative to each other, and these unusual circumstances again and the name of the book is a Fan's guide to baseball analytics. They got three more forty and three minutes first off a lot of conversation around sports yesterday after Patrick mahomes record setting contract Debate on the show. Get up this morning about who over the next decade do you think is the safest best and of course baseball's entrance front runner? Trout Francisco endure might also be in the conversation, but I'm just GONNA. Do It on production. Forget marketing of just based on production. which would you bet on to the next decade? I'm just GONNA. Go Young as young as possible. If we're talking about ten years, you know I'm going. Go with a or, Soda. Or One Soto either one of those guys I'll I'll then for the next decade. You think about one Sotos. Played approach, and just how disciplined he is at such a young age and and a Kunia can do everything. You know almost forty forty last year and his second. Second, really first full season in the big leagues, so game either one of those guys for the next ten years, and I'm happy. It felt like yesterday was the ultimate Roller Coaster Day in baseball as trying to come back, you know what with pandemic we get early in the day. The statement put out by Mike Rizzo. General Manager, the national, saying that you know. He had to cancel his workout His words were angry. Apparently reportedly angry words came back from rob Manfred to him. The astor's canceled their workout. You know their questions that other teams whether or not they were going to be working at the end of the day. Baseball unveiled its schedule. So far in in the the rollout of this. Yeah well it and you propose those two realities against each other you know the excitement over the schedule, and the realities of what everybody's facing here and there was that perfect storm of everybody gathering for the first time last week, right leading into a national holiday, and how that impacted the delivery of the test, and you just see what a massive undertaking and I started from the beginning. You know there should be an asterisk on whoever wins the world series this year if they win the world series, but the after you shouldn't be what? What you think it should be an asterisk that says this is amazing. They completed baseball season in a malfunctioning country in the middle of a global pandemic. Because that's what we're dealing with, and I've seen you tweet about this to bust the context of the situation these we take into account if this thing doesn't work if it doesn't get off the ground or does get off the ground and has to be cut short. It's not because of anybody's effort within baseball. It's because our country just doesn't have a grasp of this virus. That's just it. No. One hundred percent to combat that last week like there's no one to blame, but the fact is that the timing of all this is just It's not great for baseball in terms of trying to pull it off, and lastly before you go forty five seconds. Francisco Indoor, we talked so much about the possibility of him being traded. Where do you think that stands now that we're gonNA have truncated season. Yeah I think that hurts the chances. If I'm actually being traded this year, obviously the the trade deadline comes up with thirty eight days into the season. So you probably have a limited market for him in a circumstance where you don't know, season would shut down after the trade deadline, a weird one and I think they missed their window to get the best possible return they they did not like the packages that were available to them last winter, but that was the best window with two years of control, and now in this situation we're in, you might have teams trying to scale back payroll going into twenty twenty one and it's probably even limited market so. Maybe the reality at this point busters I can't believe I'm saying this, but maybe the more likely scenario is just ride it out with him through the contractual control. That doesn't really happen in a market like this, but maybe if next season is somewhat quote unquote you can move them at next year's trade deadline. We'll see. Man, that would be crazy to think about. That actually came to that that he wouldn't be dealt. Anthony thanks for doing this. Congratulations on the book. Thank you so much prostrate. Thanks for having me before we get to tolerate. I just want to mention check out the latest episode of the Hoop, collective after entering the NBA Bubble Maliki Andrews Joins Brian Windhorst in Royce young to detailer experience, thus four plus the crew discusses how teams playoff standing could impact some player decisions regarding opting in or out of playing at Disneyworld. Find it wherever you get your podcast. Todd rate is it chief executive of our weekly quiz is a graphic artist WHO's working on ballfields all across America all around the world and todd first off. Thanks for joining us on short notice. Hey, what a rare treat to join with you guys early in the week we'll do a double header. Sleep there you go well. We were babbling on yesterday about the news at the Cleveland Franchise. It's changing nickname and I was run-and-shoot through some things and David Sean. Pills running some things and Taylor jumped in, and then I was just thinking. Why are we talking about the logo? Why are we talking about the team name? When we got the Todd Father Is Right in your wheelhouse. This is what you do for a living. And just before we get started today, for example you were talking about how as this process goes through? There are a lot of potential complications. Yes foster it is a process it is always a process, and you could come up with the most imaginative name, the most beautiful logo in the world, but if it is not if you can't secure it via a trademark or really a series of trademarks. You're going nowhere so basically. What happens is when you're talking about names you know you run through the creative process, and then you, you have to see via trademark attorneys what comes back and it is always fascinating. The trademark tourneys will come back with you know. I've been through this multiple times. We'll come back with a PDF report that can run into the hundreds and hundreds of. Of Pages and they will give you essentially a percentage of of safety attached to a name, so let's just throw a name out here. Cleveland spiders right, and we'll get into all of it, but perhaps somebody has squatted on that trademark. Perhaps it is secured for certain category of merchandise tents or tarps, camping, something weird You know you would have to go to whoever is is the holder of that and negotiate You know a website. Someone could actually have the domain probably us right now. We won't. SPIDERS DOT COM. How does this all come together? So it's incredibly complex, and that's even before you start to get into what the injuries! Right if a team contacted you and said under these circumstances, and said look. Can you generate some names? Tell me about your process with a process that anybody would go through in generating a name generating some things to to present to the teams. I think it's a It is a brainstorming and spit balling process. I think first of all. You need to engage with people on the ground. Nelson Buster in an ideal world. If you add A, you know a pretty decent one way to make a change like this. There's a reason why sometimes these things can take a year and a half and part of that is going through focus testing sitting with the various local people stakeholders. Even eternally broadcast partners licensees, b-licences people like that and see what they think of the thing and see how it casts out. I mean there are numerous instances of expansion teams across all professional sports who will go through this process and they'll get some blind test. Put people in a room and just gauge their reactions, so that's part of it, too, and without that foundational all work you know I always like in the whole process to that of building a house. Right you can, you can put whatever kind of structured you want. But if you don't have a solid foundation, the thing can collapse and it can collapse in a heart. All Right, let me throw some of the names that have been out there as possibilities and just get your reaction to some of these. Of course with the tip of the capture the history. What about four cities? Sounds very old the first thing I will say. Is that part of this opportunity and I think you really have to look at it as an opportunity, it's not a reflexive change you're not back on your heels is to come up with something that reflects Cleveland of the current, and the future would maybe something in the past that sounds like eight, hundred and seventy one to me. What about the blues also part of the Franchise History? You go having negotiation with the Saint. Louis Blues the defending Stanley Cup champion. Come back to me and tell me how that goes. What about this? SPIDERS? Which? We just talked to Anthony Castro events and he talked about that to him would be the name. I know other people in the organization like that possibility the spiders. I come around a little bit to it. Put out a tweet. The other day and I got absolutely hammered buster in which I said. SPIDERS was the name of an eighteen ninety nine national league team that lost a ton of games but here's the thing. SPIDERS is You know it's honorable. It's a little bit different. It's got something to it. I can imagine headline writers of red. SOx You know step on spider, something like that, but I will also point out the fact that the fringe are a listener of friend of the show Paul. Caputo in Colorado pointed out the University of Richmond spiders exist and I believe that is unique, so negotiations will happen all around how what would take place in negotiations like that? I'm just curious. Like any negotiation, you know it's Let's reference Luke Walton clan. Cash rules everything around me. You you, you you, you make it work, and this happens every single day and you know it has happened in sports before, and you know it's complex and I will say having been. On the design part of the Washington nationals when the expos moved back in the fall of two thousand and four is far more complex now than it ever was complexities. What about wild things? One of the thrown out on twitter ARC NO! Tell me why. You know you wanNA associate your franchise. The Charlie Sheen going forward as you know I'm not sure that's an improvement over Indians necessarily also you know pop culture references get sale after a certain amount of time here we are. We're having this conversation in July twenty twenty. How does whatever this is age five years out ten years out long after we have departed the scene. What is this like and you know? Take Yourself. Put yourself back in. In that room of sports writers in January. Nineteen fifteen, who decided upon Cleveland to replace? Naps right I'm sure they didn't think a hundred years down the road what they came up with. Would you know 'cause what we're were discussing today? but think think forward is what I always said. Cleveland rocks, which the first one I saw, it came from Charley. Steiner course with ESPN MY I? My instinct was man. I like that. What about you? ROCKIES already exist. Don't go tackle that. All right well likely. Also I will say buster I've been hearing. From people I know in Cleveland like anything having to do with rock and roll. Rock Hall of fame. It is played out. It is done stick a fork in it, but you know maybe needs to be a discussion to talk to people as opposed to hearing those who are loud and vocal via social media. Okay, well, then I almost feel bad asking you the next day my list the Cleveland Rockers. You're like no chance WNBA team wasn't right exactly and then the dobies something was written about Joel Sherman in your post the other day other people mentioned on twitter in honor of Larry Doby who made his debut two years ago me two days ago and what seventy three years first African American player. In the American League what about the dobies, it's an outside the box thing I, think that you know you talk about something that you could. Fans could embrace I mean you know doesn't exactly roll off the tongue in a traditional way. And then you get to the design part of any of these. What do you make visual identity around dobies? That doesn't. necessarily. Maybe and. I and I'll just throw it out there like I have among know I mentioned a number of them, but which which one might interest you that I haven't mentioned. Too good question buster. I've seen so many that My head is spinning like many of us and I would say that You know I think something that you know again thinking we'd we always talk about it and you referenced the bridge yesterday. The all important sense of place. What does Cleveland have now that it has had in the past? And what does it have moving forward and I know you talked a little bit about it, but that leak that that big giant Lake Ns oil can boyd idly famously called an ocean. Maybe something that revolves around that. It doesn't have to be a monster. It doesn't have to be a sea captain, but. That doesn't necessarily speak to the industry that existed there. You know one hundred years ago, but it's always going to be there, so maybe there's something there. I'm not quite sure. some people mentioned to me the possibility of commodores and me being a vanderbilt graduate My first thought was yeah OK coming up. Bring your checkbook when you want to talk about that and I also thought to myself. I know a couple of people who worked under the Indians umbrella, including Jensen Lewis pitched in the big leagues who went to Vanderbilt? He would have a jump on all of his colleagues in terms of his apparel. That's for sure I'm sure he's had commodores on it. Someplace you like the commodores. You could do something of Lionel Richie, and that's not necessarily a bad thing. All right, todd, well, thank you for joining us on short notice as I said and I look forward to talking on Friday. It's going to be conversation. Thank you buster. We'll talk soon. Bleacher tweets. All righty buster bleacher tweets for Tuesday and buster only the science agenda Pusher defender whatever you WanNa them that. Title on here Fletcher at Sixty Eight F.. M. V. writes in, you referred to fields Hernandez as a future hall of Famer, if this the end of his career does he really have a shot? The Bar for starting pitchers is still so high and he never got the chance for a signature playoff moment. That's true about the play offs and look that I. Think is difference making four a lot of guys. You know like Curt Schilling. In a he a postseason October put them over the top, but here's why I think that Felix will get in eventually. you know if he doesn't get in on the regular writers ballot and I think he has a chance the reason why he's GonNa. Get in through a veterans. Committee is because the peak of his career was unbelievable. Unbelievable? He won the Cy Young Award in two thousand ten. He finished second three different times He was named on the MVP ballot. Five different times show at his absolute best. The king was the king. No question so I do think he eventually gets in last one today Mitchell at Tigers of Detroit rates in which division has the best chance to produce three playoff teams, it seems the central has the schedule and travel to give them the edge. Those are good points and yeah. The national central teams are going to be playing against the American league. Central routes means they'll be playing a lot of games against the Tigers They'll be playing a lot of games against the Kansas City royals and you know. The the the the teams considered be contenders in the American league central or not. I don't think he's good as the teams like in the American. League east so that could be a possibility. I think the National League East in the. The end wind up having three different teams I love the nationals because their starting pitching the Atlanta braves a lot of depth, even though it looks like that they may at least start without Freddy, Freeman Nick Marquess going down and serve the New York mets. We talked about them all spring. About how good they look, so I'm going to say it's the National League East for me already that does it for bleacher tweet subscriber. Review to this podcast wherever you listen to podcasts. That's it for today. My thanks Anthony Todd and Taylor thanks for listening. Have a great day. Stay safe and remember hate. Inequality based on race or something. We should fight against. Single Day. Thanks for listening to the baseball tonight podcast. If you're playing fantasy baseball, forget to listen to the fantasy focus podcast checkout all podcasts at ESPN. Dot Com slash pod. Center, Baseball tonight the PODCAST. Did you know GEICO's now offering an extra fifteen percent credit on car and motorcycle policies. That's fifteen percent on top of what! GEICO could already save you, so you're waiting for your teenager to help around the house. Okay, mom I. Empty The dishwasher vacuum the basement and folded the sheets out of the dryer. What Oh and next I'M GONNA? Clean Mittens litterbox in some kind of prank, show or something. That's a camera, isn't it? There's never been a better time to switch to GEICO. Save an extra fifteen percent. When you switch by October, seventh limitations apply visit. GEICO DOT COM for details.

Baseball Cleveland Cleveland Indians Anthony twitter Mike Rizzo Anthony Todd Yankees Braves MLB Cleveland Rockers American League Cleveland Franchise Commissioner Rob Manfred Garrett Cole Washington general manager Nelson Buster Martin Luther King Oakland Athletics
"The Roy Halladay Story" Producers Brian Rivera and Mike Farrell on Halladay's Wife, His Anxiety and Pitchers Using Painkillers

Baseball Tonight with Buster Olney

46:01 min | 11 months ago

"The Roy Halladay Story" Producers Brian Rivera and Mike Farrell on Halladay's Wife, His Anxiety and Pitchers Using Painkillers

"Baseball tonight the PODCAST. This is the baseball tonight. Podcast for Friday may twenty nine two thousand twenty producing from his home studio in Connecticut. Taylor Schwenk buster only Working for my own studio just north of New York City Tonight at seven PM. Espn will air e sixties. New Documentary on Roy. Halladay the hall of fame pitcher passed away in November of two thousand seventeen. And today we'll be talking with the CO directors of that piece about what they learned about Roy Halladay and why his widow Brandy holiday felt it was important to speak truthfully truthfully about Roy and my whole it does so start. A larger conversation about the drug. Use of pitchers is deal with the pain. Inherent in the work will also be taking todd rhythms weekly quiz. Be Talking about pirates home ballpark. Pnc before that today could be another big day in the negotiations between the players and Major League Baseball today. The players could forward a counter proposal to the owners. So although we saw Max Scherzer the other night that The stance could be no. We're not going to give anything back more than what we have on salaries. I've been told by sources that at least six owners want to shut down baseball for two thousand and twenty. We saw some more social media infighting on the players side on Thursday two days ago. Trevor Bauer send out a tweet saying that. Agent Scott Bores. Stay out of the negotiations yesterday. Kyle Osha client endorsed responded with this tweet trevor. I'm GonNa Chalk this went up to immaturity while your generation is talking. Mlb business while playing video games and complaining publicly. How the Union is doing us us out of touch ex ball. Players aren't happy standing by watching. You requisite was. Built Dower responded. Okay boomer anyone onto right kyle. Your time is a player has come and gone. You'RE NO LONGER. Part of the player group negotiating. Everyone appreciates your time and your service. But you don't speak on behalf of players anymore that time has come and gone for you. You're not privy to everything that's going on that inherently means. You're out of touch. It's not an insult and then low suggested the powers Gripe with. Boris might be. Because he's dating his agents. Rachel Luebbe bowery answered by calling low sexist and on and on it went here was something. Nice in the midst of all that Francis Romero. I hope I pronounced his first name right. Reports David Price will pay a thousand dollars each minor leaguer in the dodgers farm system. Not The guys in the forty man roster for the month of June If you know David prices history And his charitable giving by. It's not a surprise. It's something that he does in just a moment. We're going to talk with Brian. Rivera and Mike Farrell the CO directors about the special edition of Sixty about Roy Halladay. It's airing tonight at seven PM. Here's a trailer that he sixty produce about the Roy. Halladay piece everybody on their nowadays. Got One soon as it spins buyers began. What comes to mind when I say? The word Irvine unrealistic expectation. I don't think there's such a thing as perfect. There's few pitchers that you can think about that. You have this supreme respect four. He was the enemy of what a perfect pitcher should look like the greatest pitchers of his time absolutely stoic Warrior in the game. Nobody WANTS TO FACE Roy. The work ethic was the best. I've ever seen a man who is expected to be perfect. We're seen as perfect. I saw though was. Did you think he was an addict? Yes Roy Circuit. Victory was torment. His body was dependent on these medications to function. Adt Depression anxiety paranoia. Where I had a lot of demons. He was trying to work on all at the same time. What do you think he got free? No one of my last text were be careful line when why just now class up here and a play called day. People are not perfect. We all struggle hardware humility dedication. Imperfect people can still have perfect moment. Perfect hate that word. `perfect Mike Farrell Brian Rivera are co directors of the e sixty documentary imperfect about the late hall of Fame Pitcher. Roy halladay which airs tonight on. Espn at seven PM Eastern. Mike thanks for joining us. How you doing? I'm doing well this morning. Thank you Ryan. Thanks for joining us. Appreciate you having us. Buster is an excellent piece. It was a bracing pizza. I watched it yesterday and I I knew a lot of a lot about Roy Halladay but boy did I learned so much more especially about his career his life a time after baseball Mike just to start with. Why do you feel like brandy? Halladay chose to participate in this space. I think that her motivation to put it very simply to try to use. Roy's story to help others. We were very very sensitive to the fact that Roy is gone. We don't want to be dragging up bad memories or dirt or you know to be speaking ill of him. After he's gone it's vulnerability from Brandy with a purpose. She really wanted to make sure that. By showing the human side of Roy showing the fact that he struggled can show anyone out there that anyone can struggle even somebody that is as invincible seeming as Roy Halladay was and so really. The point is to destroy go viewers that it doesn't matter if you're you're making twenty million dollars a year and and pitching perfect games and no hitters in the playoffs or if you're just a regular person like Brian and I everyone can struggle with mental illness and addiction. And there's no shame there should be no shame in that struggle Brad. It really felt like in watching this piece. Almost an extension for her of the Hall of fame speech. She gave in Cooperstown last year. Yeah it was buster you know. That speech is something that Mike and I were kind of waiting for after we initially talked about this idea I started this conversation with Mike. You know a few weeks before the hall of fame induction happened and he and I kicked around some ideas about pursuing a story about Roy but we were really kind of stuck on this one question that we just couldn't quite answer for ourselves and this of course was was before. Brandy spoke at the hall of fame. Which was why would brandy Halladay and the rest of the holiday family where you want to do something like this with us And then we saw Randy speech at Roy's induction at Cooperstown and Mike Really sees the pond brandies line which we have in the trailer and as you know in the documentary about Roy would want people to know that even imperfect people are capable of perfect moments and that that line you know hit Mike particularly hard and he brought it to me and we started talking about it and from there we decided we felt like we had possibly a reason that Burundi had kind of the door into their lives. Open just wide enough. That there might be incentive for her to sit down and And just share her story and Roy Story With everyone else with baseball fans and with the sports community at large and and even people you know two point earlier who are not in the sports world you know have battled some of these things that Roy went through and their family went through with him. Mike sports illustrated published a piece last summer. Which suggested but didn't say definitively raise the possibility that he committed suicide and I in watching that hall of fame speech fell like brandy was answering that directly in it. Felt like that in your piece without knowing the absolute truth. Yeah it's a very sensitive subject matter certainly brandy in our interview. We did ask her about that. We didn't include included in the documentary. But we did ask her specifically that idea and she was very vehement very passionate in her. Denial that he did not commit suicide. We spoke to eye witnesses from the crash. John Bara reporters spoke with an eyewitness. Who said there was no doubt that he was trying to pull up at the end? And so you know with a situation like this. You're just never going to know for sure but from what brandy tells us. Roy was getting into a better place in his life in those final months and was was realizing that being normal is was. He was coaching his son's in baseball and was was sort of getting to a better spot with retirement. And so from from everyone. We talked to you from eye. Witnesses to Royce family. They all feel very strongly that was not the case. Of course we can never know for sure. But that's that's what they communicated to us in our conversations if I get to just add onto that and just reiterate the point that might just made you know we interviewed you know. Almost I want to stay close to fifteen people and we brought this up to some of Roy's closest friends outside of his family. We brought it up to each member of his family and everyone was unified in their totally that this was a tragic accident. And that Roy would not have done something like that Especially given the fact that he had kind of moot begin he had he had started to move beyond I think being kind of bogged down on a daily basis by a lot of these issues. He and he and Brandy were counseling together. Kind of for their marriage. He had been actively seeking treatment for his addiction and according to brandy he he kind of begun to turn a corner Right before this accident occurred so everyone we spoke to was you know kind of vehement in their Stance that that Roy you know was not the person or was not in a place where he would have you know intentionally harmed himself guys say in watching the piece the the the footage that you Used at the outset absolutely took my breath away as best you can you. Can you describe what it was? And how how you got that. That footage came from a cinematographer. Who had done some work with icon aircraft Leading up to Royce purchase of the a five. And you know the time Roy had become one of the kind of early spokespeople for the a five aircraft that icon had put out and you know I icon had decided to film a lot of Roy's kind of early experiences with the plane whether it was going through played safety training the plane kind of for the first time and subsequent training sessions that he had in addition to being there when Roy Saul his plane which was manufactured specifically for him for the very first time. And so this this footage came to our attention in kind of a roundabout way Kind of a serendipitous way. I was actually shooting another feature for sixty in in late June of two thousand and nineteen and I happened to be shooting with the same crew They'll crew that had shot that footage of Roy and after we wrapped the shoot. This was all unknown to me at the time when we began to shoot and when I hired this particular group and when we wrap our shoot back day for a story that was entirely unrelated to Roy The crew and myself went to lunch and began talking and somehow and I this. Is You know a key keyboard of the story. Although I can't remember somehow Roy Halladay came up and these shooters told me. They had been the ones who had spent time with Roy at icon and had actually flown with him and shot him flying the plane For several months and that this footage was something that they had had and that they had owned. And obviously icon. You know in the wake of the crash There was of course everybody can understand a greater sensitivity about putting that footage out in any kind of promotional use so it was shelf and it sat on their shelf for From October of two thousand. Seventeen until you know late summer when we began a conversation about trying to acquire it from them so you know it was a long process to get it from them. They had a lot of concerns about the way we were going to use it as you can imagine. Buster it It was something that we did not acquire officially Until very recently Given all of the concerns surrounding but We Are you know thrilled to have it as a part of this project. We feel it makes the project. A more complete picture approve. Roy was given his interest in aviation. And you know. We're hoping that everyone else who saw who the documentary tonight. Everyone else who watches the documentary tonight? We'll have the same reaction that you did and alternate to Mike. If he wants to add anything while I was just going to jump in real quick and say that I I gotTa Tell. You just having known Roy know a little bit and got an just as reporter to a player kind of broke my heart watching it And why it was so striking. Mike. What do you remember about the first time that you saw? It took my breath away very similar in fashion to to you buster. It's it's very jarring to to watch it with the benefit of hindsight and knowing what happened It's it's chilling. I mean when I watched it down for the very first time when we got some screener copies of the footage to review the the moment that made the hair on the back of my next ended up was when Roy sat in the plane for the first time was smiling like a kid in a candy store and of all the words in the English language to utter he said perfect and at that point I it was just like my spine tingle than it was It was crazy. But that's how he felt about the plane. He was so excited to get it and you could see that. He's just in awe in that scene of of the aircraft and aviation has Brian said was something he was passionate about in loved his entire life. So it's equal parts eerie shocking heartbreaking. It's all of those things but it does show you know his his love for flying in real time on curious about what each of you learned about him. That surprised us. You went through the project. Mike Start with you for me. It was it was brandy talking about Roy. Anxiety and Roy's fear of failure Roy's incessant desire to please others and to not let people down. She spoke about that over and over again in our interview. And I mean that just that description just seems so at odds with the image of him that we have on the mound which is disliked stone cold dominant pitcher that showed such little emotion noted for his stoicism almost as much as his work ethic. And you know to hear that that's what he was really like behind closed doors was very surprising to me. But you know there's a lot of people whether it'd be Major League pitchers or just in everyday life that that put on a form of a mask on a daily basis and project one personality when another one might you know live beneath the surface and that again just speaks to. Our hope is with this does documentary. Is that if somebody may be watching this and and can help shed the shame and the feeling the need to project strength when maybe you know. Anxiety is is below then. I think that the film serves its purpose But that was the most surprising thing to me was hearing just how how scared and anxious. He was at times throughout his career throughout his life and various situations whether it be pitching in front of forty five thousand people or going to a small cocktail party. You Know Ryan you know we. We really got to find out how much of a sense of humor Roy. Halladay had and I don't think that that's something that that anybody would have ever thought about or even really known about unless you really really really paid attention Particularly to twitter feed after he passed away Which is still up and You know again. I'm not sure how many people actually spent time poking through his twitter feed while he was alive but in going back through it now You know I would encourage anybody who you know is a fan of Roy Halladay or ended Washington stock to to just poke through Because the guy really was funny And you know one one particular thing that stands out is an you can find this on Youtube He Roy was inducted into the Colorado Sports Hall of fame in two thousand fifteen and he gave an induction speech that again. I think surprised a lot of people because it was actually funny. And it's on you to we feature it at the end of the documentary. Buster as you know having watched and You know Roy till the few kind of stories and take some shots at himself you know very self deprecating very humble But also funny and his family talk about that Brandy talked about that and it's evident If you're paying close attention to the these kind of little areas in his life where you can get a little glimpse into it. I mentioned the the hall of Fame Induction Speech being one but also you know his twitter feed and even in some of the some of the interviews that he did. I think people kind of missed that part of him along the way so that was something that struck me and I hope that that's something that people get a little taste of. Maybe at the end of the documentary. It's funny that the sense of humor really came out when you're looking at the raw interview clips and it's it's those moments in between filming or before. The interview begins where you really saw. Roy's sense of humor shine. I mean I think he had you felt maybe a sense of obligation to kind of turn on the the baseball player persona when the cameras were rolling but when we look at the interview tapes and even the brief glimpses of moments before enduring takes is when that sense of humor. Release Sean through. Which was interesting for me to see a hundred percent. I worked on a number of sixty pieces and there is alternate heartbreak process because of stuff to borrow your phrase brand that winds up on the cutting room floor For each. GimMe something that you're like. Oh I wish we could have included that for me. I I mentioned this to you as we came on. I actually woke up this morning very early. I've woken up every morning during the editing process of this piece just unable to sleep thinking about things and I was. GonNa text this the Mike and I didn't but Here now I really miss An opening to our second segment documentary which Mike Bill With an interview clip that you did from two thousand and three with Roy after he had kind of come back after being sent down to the minors and in that interview clip. There are a number of technical issues. Befalling the production lights are going out. Cell phones are going off and it happens throughout the course of the entire fifteen minute interview and Roy graciously but also with a sense of humor. Which again is evident kind of inbetween? The moments and the answers is very playful and very understanding and I think that scene that might build up him which was going to be a part of our second segment of his documentary really illustrated that point earlier in the story than than we might get to it now but It's something that I I do miss and I wish we had more time. We we certainly would have gotten it in for me. Is the story line with his son. Brayden we actually had a very talented associate producer on our show. Scott Secorski put together a separate feature on bread and I went to Penn State University couple months ago and spend a few days with Brayden there. He's a freshman pitcher at Penn state and just such a likable nice down to Earth Kid. He just looks like Roy in so many ways not only physically but in his mechanics delivery. There's sort of a kind of warm but eerie nature to the images that we captured him pitching and I think a of ways in talking to breed. And you know he's he's taken lessons from from Roy from both his successes and his struggles and tried to incorporate those into his own journey as he pursues pitching as potentially a career for himself and I find that choice interesting in its own right as he saw firsthand the mental and physical strain that it put on his father so we were able to get a separate feature done on brandon with the stuff that we captured at Penn state to give him time to kind of show his relationship with his father. A little bit more so that is going to get out there in some capacity but it would have been fulfilling to have that weaved into our narrative a little bit more in the documentary presentation. Brian when I said now with you I mentioned to you as you were giving me some of the background that you guys had dug out on this that when I first saw the Toxicology report after the crash. I was kind of like that doesn't surprise me because in my time covering baseball. I've seen a Lotta pitchers and heard a lot about pitchers going into retirement with pill problems with pharmaceutical problems. Because of all the pain management that they do during their careers especially the end of their careers because they pitch and pain and you guys note that Roy's physical problems really started with a back issue and then it expanded and then he began to use pharmaceuticals on a regular basis. And I. I wouldn't at all be surprised brandy made reference to the idea of you know. Hopefully this help someone. I think there will be former pitchers. You're going to hear about former pitchers their struggles with painkillers. After watching this and in fact when I was doing the broadcast on Are from the Games from South Korea this morning cow Peterson. Our our colleague unity. Spn when I mentioned that he said. Yeah in two thousand and one You know I started taking Iden And so I really feel like that you're going to have A. You're going to reach a lot of people in the game with By Sharing Roy's experience and his issues with those. I hope you're right buster. I think if that if that was the outcome of this documentary it would far exceed even our our hopes For what we were kind of intending for it to achieve That's a that's another conversation that we never had going into the production of this documentary. But it's it's one that develops particularly when you and I started talking and I think it's it's a a really interesting one to have you know brandy talks about Roy not taking prescription painkillers to get high but taking them because he needed them to function to do his job as a pitcher. And Todd's lucky who has written a book On Roy Halladay has written. Halliday's biography is in our piece featured in our piece we did an interview with him and he talks about the pressure that Roy felt as the phillies twenty million dollars a year. Ace to live up to and deliver you know a third live up to the expectations of the fans apprehend that the organization may have had for him and deliver the fans. You know a third consecutive trip to the world series and so because of the physicality that I think a lot of fans the physicality of pitching that. I think a lot of fans take for granted because as we've talked about you know it's it's a non contact sport and we take you know the movement of one's arm for granted because it's kind of something we all can. Do you know. Mike has catch with his son. You have a catch with yours. We've all had catches and throw a baseball with our friends with our dads and it's just something you take for granted But you know if you think about it once you come in from the catch you know thirty minutes later. Your arm is sore. And you've maybe been throwing a ball twenty or thirty miles an hour. One hundred miles an hour For to get twenty seven. Major League outs so I think you know if if that conversation started out of this it would it would wildly exceed our hopes for you know what we can achieve By getting this message out there and shining light on on this issue kind of inadvertently in my time covering baseball like the mantra. For starting pitchers you take the ball. He jury responsibility. Take the ball. Every fifth day when I was covering the Yankees there was a period of time on any petted has had discomfort in his elbow and I remember talking. Roger Clements where you tend. You know Andy's got to learn how to pitch with pain. That's part of the game. That's part of what we do and I think that For some of them the use of pharmaceuticals as part of that might. Yeah and I remember you saying in the interview buster that you had a doctor at one time. Tell you that every time. A major league pitcher throws a PICCI's effectively dislocating his shoulder every single time. And when you think about it in that context I mean it it seems had there will be an inevitability that pain would be a constant in the the lives of pitchers especially as they get later in their careers and yeah. I just think that it's sports. Fans like we're wired to think of painkillers and playing through pain for like sports. More like football or me growing up in Canada certainly is associated with hockey. These sort of contact sports that are more violent nature that collisions are part of the everyday ongoing of the sport. But when you when you actually stop and think about what. A person is doing to their body while pitching. It makes total sense that that painkillers would also be an issue in that fraternity. Great job. This guys. Thanks for taking the time to talk about it shortly. Thing Buster having on thanks very much rate him is a TV executive or weekly cuisine. Doors working seated on ballfields all across America all around the world his website titled Dot Com. Todd as we bring you in last night he had even more out in the open about the negotiations going on between the players and the owners accept. This was player on player. Crime twitter back and forth between Kyle Loesch and Trevor Bauer. I I did Michael K show yesterday and I told him that I I was embarrassed. Watching this like watching. This is beginning to feel like to second cousins at a memorial service arguing loudly in the back pews and Rindge as you hear it like every time somebody talks about money allowed in the current context. It feels totally inappropriate. And I think it's going to damage all of them. Buster you're saying these words and I am literally just stately sitting here shaking my head and I got my head in my hand cringing. Because you're absolutely right I'm GONNA come at it from a little bit. Different perspective You know I've worked in baseball in my lane a little bit of a different thing admittedly but on the business side for thirty years and I have relationships with people in the Commissioner's office would people with the PA with licenses. And I think that all of this is governed. Navigating successfully is is a product. I believe of discretion. Bite your tongue. No one to talk no when not to talk. Hold things incompetence and for goodness sake just before you should apply to everything as it relates to social media. Think twice hit send once I mean. It is just horrible to watch this play out. Yeah and I. When I saw the in particular those tweets be Carl Cut Carlos by the way. He's a great guy. I don't Know Trevor. Bowers well as you know Carlos but I know Carlos you good guy but when I saw the tweets back and forth like good God can just get his phone number and call them directly taught. Yeah it's probably pretty easy to do and listen. Trevor Bauer has tation for as a guy who was a bit of a free spirit and that is a a refreshing thing and good on him. You know But at this particular moment time as a world as a country is a society and knowing that the window of opportunity weather this season was going to get played truncated former not again. I don't want to debate the merits of that. I don't want to get into money. Millionaires billionaires this whole discussion always comes into play but just bite your tongue. Don't hit send and I will get off my soapbox Before you get off it I do WanNa hear about your views on. Pnc Park which is one of my favorites You know I because Camden yards close to my heart. That's always number one for me. I love the Ballpark in San Francisco. Pittsburgh would be number three remained. What about for you? Well we get onto a much nicer thing to talk about. Were no question buster. I believe that it's quite possibly baseball's most beautiful ballpark is that possible yes is ending a PNC park and the first thing you do if you were to let be lead into PNC park of your eyes closed and said okay. Open your eyes. You see this what I always turned a business view of downtown. Pittsburgh and those bridges and the angles of the buildings. Your architecture is just startlingly interesting. And they're things that I've gone down that I love about the NC Park. I love the scale of it is to debts. It is modest. There's always seem like a ballpark. That fits the size of its bird which is not a huge metropolis. It just seems right As far as the ballpark itself I love the materials there. That's local limestone exterior and area behind home plate. I love the colors the blues steal. It just seems really really comparable there. It's built on a very modest footprint setting the views the texters colors of the stadium. All of it. You know let's face it you and I've talked about this many times in the path offer. We are old enough to remember when the pirates were uninjured powerhouse participating in World Series Winning Divisions Etcetera Etcetera. Etcetera always said that that Ballpark as well received as it is would get more of a halo effect if the pirates were good at all and they haven't been you know with rare exception for a long time. I love the tribute. That's built into the Ballpark to Roberto. Clementi right field. If you can explain that is you're the expert. I haven't been there in a while but I know you know you've got the clemente stats. You've got the bridge out there. You've the wall is twenty one feet high. Yeah Yeah there you go and and I mean you know you talk about Clemente of course played his career at Forbes field which is not anywhere near there but three rivers right near there the bridge the Clemente Bridge approaching. Pnc Park as a pedestrian from downtown Pittsburgh across the river on the Clemente Bridge. You get a sense of the history and the pirates do the history so so well and I know that's ebbed and flowed over the years they You had had celebrated the Negro Leagues Rich history I will give a quick shot out This point to To Shawn Gibson who I know who is the descendant of Josh Gibson runs the Josh Gibson Foundation out there so much so much history and what an amazing like you. I would put it right up there at the top my list. We're GONNA be talking about this lot. I don't know how you compare. Pnc Park to a fenway or Wrigley to name two of the older ones. We talked about Dodger Stadium You know again different flavors. We're talking the same language. Pnc's a Jim. It really is on the other hand. Three rivers absolutely nothing stands out about it to me. My went there other than I I mentioned to you last week. About jogging and different ballparks. That was one of the Ballpark's jogging after games and it was perfectly audible and nice and easy to run in. That's for sure. You Buster you talking about. Close Your eyes and be put into three Rivers Stadium and say am I in Cincinnati and I still Adelphia right call. Letters of the colors of the seeds might vary but other than that not a whole lot to think about. I am all of a sudden calling being at Atta game at three rivers in April of Nineteen eighty-seven. I can tell you exactly when it was. It was empty and somebody had say a fly ball. I'm sitting with my friends in the upper deck. Roughly behind home plate first row and this ball comes and these two US guys get right in our grill and take the foul ball away from us. I mean that's my now so my memory of three Rivers Stadium. Buster not good. I'd say in the ballpark before the you made reference to at Forbes field in in a weird sort of way the Ford field is like the mayflower of all the modern ballparks because of course Forbes field was the favourite of Larry Lucchino went to work for the Baltimore Orioles and he was inspired by Ford Field. They built camden yards and as we talked about a few weeks ago with January Smith. That was the inspiration for For ballparks elsewhere when he got him Forbes Field Yeah I mean obviously it predates us by by enough years that the you and I never would have been there. You look at pictures of this place and it was just exquisitely dishonest. The architectural details are stunning the setting in the Oakland neighborhood and buster. I cannot help but think I think both you and Taylor notes not talking about. There's this iconic shot of the game of the seventh game of the nineteen sixty world series taken from top that cathedral of learning that big skyscraper that that tower they're looking down on Forbes field and it is just striking this moment in time all of the get past the history part the setting all of the trees just looks like a beautiful beautiful ballpark. I know that there are pieces of it. That are still in existence there Including a section of the outfield wall where Bill Mazeroski is home run cleared to win the nineteen sixty world series? I'm pretty sure played us there to someday when we're allowed to leave the house. We gotta do a Ballpark a road trip. Oh that would be fun tod. Yeah I absolu- and I actually you know as you said that. I'm like two or three places in the area other historical sites that I wanna see so you and I are going to talk about that that we have established at three rivers. Definitely the ugly stepchild of the three ballparks. The pirates of made famous all right. Let's get to this week's quiz all right guys here. We go wouldn't stay in the National League which one of these teams has appeared in the most National League Championship series the pirates the dodgers the braids or the cardinals most appearances in the NFL CS. Parral others braves cardinals. While tell you want to give it a shot I will go with the cardinals on this one and the cardinals have certainly made the world series appearances. But I'M GONNA go with a team that tortured me at times going the National League Championship series. And that would be my childhood favorite team. The dodgers Taylor. You are victor this week. I'm appearances job Taylor and buster. You were closed because the dodgers have appeared in thirteen lot in recent times. So Taylor good job my friend. Wow Yeah I thought it was some sort of baseball savant but I guess not. I guess I'm the PODCAST. It's kind of interesting because you know I alluded to it earlier and and it had nothing to do with the With the correctness of this question but the pirates of appeared in nine and LCS. When you think about you know let's face it. We all know that the event You know the NRCS dates back to nineteen sixty nine and the pirates. Of course were this powerhouse franchise And then all of a sudden you know the the wall at a certain point that they appeared in they have appeared in nine and it will see us along the way and I remember Jack Block that I've joyfully talking about. Is You whatever. I'm not going to get into it as a dodger. Very bitter and a very bitter for losing again all right. Todd I appreciate it right guys. Thanks so much. The businesses around ballparks. All around America have gone dormant during this time without baseball like Wrigley. Ville dogs is peace was generated by sportscenter. The tables are the we are open for business. This is Harry Strauss and this is Wrigley field dogs known for their famous Chicago style. Hot dogs dried up the block from Wrigley Field home of the Chicago cubs. This is Harry's Dad Pete. Yoga Wrigley Dogs thirty years ago. Up until mid-march. He was still working but not now at eighty one. That's too risky slowly Brian. He will go to win the world. Two three four will use this for US fans now with no baseball. Harry says businesses down close to eighty percent. He's not taking a salary. He's turned cooks into delivery. Drivers Harry says the only reason restaurant remains open is to keep their devoted. Employees Employees. Need an income coming in otherwise this community those streams we need. These song played in ridicule from Santa Search teams. Want to beer bleacher tweets mrs already buster last batch of tweets four. The week I up Jacob Halal. He tweeted me earlier and said thanks for pronouncing my name correctly. Cable side. Now I'm going to Botch it for sure. So he writes in. It feels like fans. Are The only child stuck in the middle of a Nazi divorce where neither parent players. Our owners want us. What do fans due to voice? How we feel Boycott Games and twenty twenty one. Do we all become. Nba Fans Premier League. Lacrosse sounds like it's GonNa go off without a hitch the summer. What do you think Buster Jacob what you just suggested is voiced by players by agents by people a management side? They cringe that there is going to be a serious backlash from fans. Much in the way was act much in the way there was after the ninety four ninety five players strike a little bit of follow up to that Ben Hedge Hegi Hamanaka. I'm on a roll here today at big head. Benny Thirteen rates in. Mlb Media and fan say they want players to be more open and have less robotic answers. Why does it seem when players do open up and speak? Their feelings sees appointing to Blake. Snell specifically they get crucified. By those vary media members. No wonder no one talks and I think it's with this with Blake. Snell situation this and then a travels and oranges. Yeah yeah apples and oranges wanting to give an interview after the game or talking to microphone during the game and on the other hand the current situation during a pandemic to talk about money absolutely last one from our pal Aaron at a San Diego rates in what are the disagreements happening in terms of safety all we hear. All you're hearing is that they disagree but it seems to me like this is only an attempt to cover for money disputes. If there are any specifics I'd love to hear them. Aaron generally speaking what I've heard is the players want more testing but let's face it The there are disagreements and they might even be major disagreements over safety. The bigger disagreements are over money. There's not going to be baseball in two thousand twenty if they cannot settle those financial disagreements. Yeesh all right well. Premier Leagues Back June seventeenth. So they're taught never in everyone enjoy your weekend. That's it for today. Thanks to Brian Mike. Todd I don't mean to be. I always feel like doctor doom. I trump but I want to be honest. I WANNA to be real about things. I appreciate your honesty and I appreciate the fact that you've kind of been on this since the very beginning. I mean we were talking to mid March and you're you're kind of doom and gloom about it and now it's materialized so if anything it just proves your your foresight on on this particular subject and the part that I was right about that makes me cringe is that I was writing back in mid March. Don't fight publicly about this situation. We've been talking about that for weeks on the PODCAST. Anyway I have a great weekend. Everybody thanks for listening and stay safe. Thanks for listening to the baseball tonight. Podcast if you're playing fantasy baseball toll forget to listen to the fantasy focus podcast checkout all podcasts at ESPN DOT com slash. Podcast separate baseball tonight the PODCAST.

Roy Roy Halladay Baseball Brian Mike Buster Jacob brandy Halladay Brian Todd Trevor Bauer twitter Taylor Schwenk Espn Pnc Roy Circuit Mlb Roy Story Pnc Park Major League painkillers
Mason and Ireland (Hr 2)

Mason & Ireland

00:00 sec | 2 years ago

Mason and Ireland (Hr 2)

"ESPN? Okay. Mason on the air. You're on the right now. This is how Tony Romo. Split gronk like you are just a Romo. Hateful. All right. So Romo was asked by Richard J choosing media columnist. How is it that you're able to predict plays that happened before they happen? He says what would I do if I was right there at the quarterback position from their analysed, the possibilities, and you do permutations of what could possibly come about. The next thing. Are you're looking at the linemen on defense. The coverage based stuff who is covering who matchups whether things are manner zone. It's hard to give you one thing because on a specific place so much can happen. For instance, you might have chargers defensive end Melvin Ingram lined up inside. And they're trying to get a match up on a guard. So I might want to circle that or I see rob gronkowski a safety one on one. He's just playing quarterback. I think he's I think this is proof that he's getting that feed in Zere. You aren't he's not getting a feed is years thing. Jared Goff can't actually get here. The plays in Tony Romo is getting plays other game. So in the Super Bowl. This Goss helmet goes out, again, we're going to -ssume that somebody rerouted the audio to Romo from Gough Thiru Romo, but that's an interesting. Little tidbit that Gough or Sean Mannion's helmet. Yeah. That's your series. There should be some sort of investigation. Well, the interesting thing is that man's helmet. Worked and goff's didn't doesn't that automatically indicate Jaffa Taj. Somebody. Because the mood around with Jared goff's helmet. They cut the red wire the blue wire they cut by our blue Rier. Yeah. I mean, you know, it's like when when people were talking about loud. So I obviously I was and they report for ten years. Dell does the job is to do different arenas have a different level of sound? Yes. So I carried with me several amps they're they're about the size of a quarter. And you could change how loud the sound was coming into your ears. So in like, Oakland or Oklahoma City or Sacramento when they were good. I would use the big amp the that would give me a tons of sound the other ones I'd use a regular what were the tough arenas Sacramento, and they were good very loud Oklahoma City every year because it's the only pro team they have there and right now the warriors because they're great, right? Those of the three where I use the the the louder amp did you ever have to use it with the Lakers? No. But but that's that has something to do with. A out of the building. Right. Yeah. And a lot of gets right. No. I never have to do it at Staples. Staples is never known for being exceptionally loud. It's also Staples is very cavernous yet. No, people are working too hard to be cool right loud. Well, the the way you can tell is when they put t shirts on the back of chairs in these arenas like every fan puts them on except at Laker games. Like you look around. And I'll say, oh, that's kind of a cool t-shirt. He goes. Yeah. You know, everybody has them everybody. How come no one's wearing them? They don't they're wearing it. Worrying hundred dollar, Ed harmony, t- Shami, Chung, shoes and stuff. Yeah. So so it's different. Tommy Cheung Shuzo Goff. They could have. I know the Rams equipment staff could have given Gough a louder amp. I think somebody cut the wire, I think they're sabotage here. I that's the only imagine. That's the only explanation with acne. That make up for the bad call at the end of the game. If somebody did that if somebody if if they went code red, we'll cut the wire mind goff's, remember when was it is jersey that somebody told after a stall after Brady won the Super Bowl, and they were able to go back and figure out who did it, right? There are cameras everywhere in this day and age Steve big brother is always watching if someone cut that why we're nine out about I want to know we're gonna find out about here's Patrick and chino. Hey, Patrick here on ESPN LA. Hi, hey, Steven, John. It's been a long time that you got down down south. But hey, let alone. Did I ever think my ranch would come back to Los Angeles Leno within three years make it to the Super Bowl again and tell you what couple of things that I that, you know, the excitement beam so big out here, John you remember when the targes made it a Super Bowl what happened right after they went to the after they beat the Steelers. Well, I not only remember Patrick. I called my boss. I was a TV reporter in San Diego. And I was doing the show with Mason. And I called my boss. I said you better have somebody ready when these guys get back to the airport because what happened you guys went on the air. Yup. Open day opened up the stadium all the bands way data. Dato the stadium again seventy thousand people in the stadium. Can you imagine they would have done that last night when they lewd that when they are trying to find, and they know but see the Rams aren't there yet, Patrick like I mentioned earlier that they're rating was lower than the national rating. More people in other states watched the ram game than we Sandra. So I don't think there would have been seventy thousand people at the airport. I don't think they win it. This is what they needed they needed a Super Bowl run if they win it. They'll have it from now, my friend Susan down in New Orleans says that being a saints fan is a religion in New Orleans that it is that and the fact that they were awful for so many years is one of the reasons why it became like religion. We've got three years under our belt along with a bunch of years. Well, but old guys who were there before. Yeah. Exactly, exactly. But here, but here's the thing. Now, the the FOX made a an inaccurate cooled on the bottom of the screen when they said about the the Ran's being the first NFC team to win and away game to go to the to go to the Super Bowl, and that's not accurate. The Rams did in nineteen seventy nine when they had to go to Tampa and B can't hone. Yeah. The Cowboys DeKalb boys. Did it in San Francisco? It's happened for. I don't know. Yeah. I don't know who gave you that. All right, Patrick. Thank you. Thank you. Call by the way, Michael Pearson who produces are afternoon show was at the Martin Luther King parade today. And he's commend wearing geeky. Looks very good which apparently. Download would you to the point of you couldn't finish your thought? Saying something that seen one before. I know I've seen one. Of course, I've seen one. I just I've never seen one on Michael Pearson and which trying to figure out today. Yes, it is a it is great, man. I just. Don't say it Mike Dino with a grand marshal the MLK brave. Let's this your Mace. I think I'm cheating. But I think it was Dave, rob. Yes seen him. And I said next year next year we're going to win it always said no this year. I saw that on your Instagram. Yes, man. So was at the Milquet parades. Where's the k per well, they have different ones Inglewood might have their own. I know maybe Compton might have their own different cities have their own. You go. I was at the L A one. Yes. That was mainly off of king boulevard between western and like Crenshaw boulevard. Okay. So over near the Coliseum Marte park and by cut about a calcium. Yep. Yeah. That's over by where your old theaters were. Yeah. Exactly. Now are telling me about the shaky. I just describe what her does she use to people. Comes from the African heritage and in mainly from African descent, and it's you know, that's pretty pretty much where it comes from. So. People who are nothing about African American culture. It's pretty much what everybody was wearing at the beginning. And the end of coming to America. Yes. Yes. There you go. There you go. Yeah. It's a good look into Sheikh ox wanna Rams color one in a USC color one. Because I like to do you have I have a couple. This is one I have that. I really liked them at other times rarely do. I really do I read, but I will wear Rams. I would wear Rams color when like like the say the dodger blue and gold that garnered bloom Graham gear. I would wear that game USC color once again, it's good looking good looking tribal baby. And you're still you're still rocking the AFC. Yeah. I would I wonder where all my Rams gear today. But I was like I have a lot of time. I'm just I'm really upset with these saints haters out there anybody that they just sounds like they really hate the Rams that they're vanishing. Well, no, they hate the fact that got screwed by the refs they got screw by the reps. But how long have we been in this and been around sports? Never let the refs decide your destiny. It should have been that close and guess what? At at overtime zero zero buddy at zero zero for All Saints got the ball for tennis at their house. Yup. We're playing when referee crew that we're Owen eight with a good thing. They let us play physical. Yes. Amen. I'm with Michael Pearson. Yeah. And by the way. Waiting this? With Michael the Martin Luther King. I have a dream speech greatest speech in American history. Is there better one? No, I throw it some I think there's some you can throw into the conversation. But at the end of the day, I think it's number one. I I actually through a couple of Reagan's out there. I think Reagan I've turned on this wall. We'll play it for you coming back. Yeah. And if you've never heard it, I think it's the best speech in American history. So we'll get we had that coming up. It is Martin Luther King day. So, you know, take Michael obviously took a moment at the at the parade. Remember what this day is about? It's not just a day off Mason and Ireland ESPN. Yeah. Michael pearson? Disappointed another aspect to then came Michael Thomas went off the first time, they played in this particular case, keep to leave made a huge difference on Michael Thomas and Kishan is wrong about that. I you know, I'd I'd want in the morning show during the week. I said key is their way to take Michael Thomas out of the game. And he said nice to good. They'll find ways to get him the ball. So I don't know not that not that Keyshawn has any routing in nephew. But but Michael Thomas can't catch the ball himself. Throw it to him. Yeah. So somewhere that process broke down. Either drew Brees thought he was too well covered or Sean Payton didn't throw him the ball. And that's another reason why the Rams won the game is they they bottled Michael Thomas up who had killed them in week nine. And it killed the eagles the week before. Yep. All right. So it is Martin Luther King day. And we try to do this every year. You know, the the great civil rights leader in America really did change the the world as we know it was part of the push for the Civil Rights Act, the Voting Rights Act, all in the mid sixties and was tragically assassinated in nineteen sixty eight. But before that he delivered the most stirring speech in American history. Yeah, we were thinking about it. And we we think this is number one. If you were making the list of greatest speeches ever in American history. This is number one. Here is Dr Martin Luther King. One day. Name you will rise up. Live out the true, meaning of the pre. We hold is Jews to be self evident that all men are created. I agree. The label. Be able to sit down together at the papal of brotherhood. I have a dream. One of the names on the weather loved by map. Map again. But by come to that character. Hi. Every. Every mouth he'll be made. Would be made played and the criminal played will be made. That's portion of the IVA dream speech delivered in nineteen sixty three at the March on Washington at the Lincoln Memorial. Interesting story about that. So George Raveling kneeled USC basketball coach was a player in the Washington DC area and somebody came to his school. He's a college player, and it can't remember if he went to GW or American University camera which one, but so Raveling was at his school and somebody came by and said, hey, we need some for lack of a better term muscle. We need some big tall guys to stand behind Dr king. So if anyone gets a crazy idea of rushing, the podium, they know that there'd be big guys that they'd have to get through. So the coach of the basketball team said sure I got a couple of guys in one of them was Raveling. So if you watch that speech, you'll see a young George Raveling standing one of the people standing behind Dr king. So the speed. Ends. And Dr king says, you know, free at last free blasts got almighty free at last and walks away from the podium and Raveling notices that the text of the speech is still there. And he's he grabs it, and he says, Dr king, you forgot your speech. He goes go ahead and keep it George. I don't need it. And to this day. You're traveling has it. Well, now, the amazing thing is we have Ravin the show a lot. And he says that the text of the speech is not what you would think. It's not like today. Everybody would put that in a prompter. Right. It was guidelines nuts. I think George said that a lot of I have a dream on the note that he just, you know, took the notes that it was bullet points of what he wanted to mention, and he just winged it and George still hasn't. He's been the Smithsonian been after a lot of people have asked if he'd be willing to sell it. And he's always said, no, he's hanging onto it. And he says when he passes wail handed down to his family, which is kind of a cool that is backwards. Right. All right. So you're going to get into coming up. The ringer which I read every day. Has just written a story. Here's the headline Todd Gurley. The reigning offensive player of the year was out snapped. And outplayed by C J Anderson in Sunday's championship game. He says it wasn't his health. So what happened? We'll get into it next or some theories here that are interesting Mason and Ireland Rams on their win. Is. I hope so Super Bowl we're thirteen days away. I can tell you that. Although the station is not really. Divvying up any cash for me to go to the game. I'm find your way. Yeah. And one and I will be in that stadium for the Super Bowl. I'll do the show from Atlanta Monday after the game. And I think the morning show because they get all of the preferential treatment they will be at the Super Bowl. Really? So you're gonna send them they're going to send them and be there, and you pay your own way. Exactly. Okay. That's how it was. So righted girly Todd Gurley yesterday only get four carries. Yeah. Girlie told Lindsey theory who covers the Rams for us after the game that. It was not his health. Girly insists that he I want to get this exact, quote, he gave the Lindsay 'cause it's pretty good. He goes he said, I was sorry as hell today. I was sorry. So CJ did his thing the whole team did its thing. Now, I think most rampants don't want to believe that Sean McVay would ever bench Todd Gurley. Even if he was playing sorry. He's considered by some to be the best running back early. He has a captain see on his chest yet. He had twenty all purpose touchdowns this year. He did not play in the third quarter. And while C J Anderson was running the ball Gurley was on the sidelines on an exercise bike. So everyone is assuming that there's an injury that the Rams aren't talking about the girlies not talking about. But after the game Josina Anderson caught up with girly. And I think she got him in a moment where he was being completely honest. He's being very religious. She asked him. Directly about it. Here's girly, right? After the game. You got to put it into the where it's how does it feel to be going to the Super Bowl? God is good. God is good. I love my teammates. You know? We we saw you know, they all encourage me all game. You know, you know, when I had the mistakes that was all of my ear, and I really really loved his team. You know coaches everybody. It was unbelievable is unbelievable. It seems like you're almost two near tears. What is in your heart right now? Of the day. A lot of games so much of Madrid. It is all my life for us to be able to be in this position to mega to the Super Bowl. Oh, so it's such a great seven such good till you. Until now you didn't play in the third quarter. You came back into port where you heard what happened. No, I didn't play good in is there to be CJ within their. He did his thing. Everybody helped me down. We all helped each other. And we just we just got it done. We just got it done. Thank you, Lou. Thank you. Thank you. Lastly, what did the rand prove to the world which is going to the Super Bowl? We got one more thing to do. And that's just to win one more again. Thank you. All right. So it seems like he's being pretty honest there on the day rush for ten yards and a touchdown in four carries and caught one pass for three yards. His five touches from scrimmage where career low as whereas thirteen total yards the thirty two snaps girly played where the fewest in a game since his rookie year as well. As the fewest of any Rams offensive player that took the field Sunday. Yep. Steve you seen every ram game. What do you think happened with Todd Gurley? I know he acknowledged there that there was that he basically got benched he all but acknowledged that right, right? I still think there's an injury thing. I still think he's not right. I have a theory. Tell me if you think it holds water. Last year. Phero Cooper made an absolute critical turnover in the in the game loss against them. And that's why I'm going go McVeigh stuck with them. Right. Said. Hey, don't worry about it hanging there. Let's get them. Nick. Then Cooper did it again. Yup. And they lost the game and turnovers are just absolutely critical season. So girly early in the game had a pass go right through. I mean, all Sean Jeffrey right through his hand. Yes. I write that. And the saints ended up with an interception. Fortunately for the Rams their defense held the saints to a field goal then. Right after that on a critical third and six golf put a pass right in girlies hands. And he dropped it killed the drive is it possible that McVeigh looked at it and went oh God, he's checked out. Why we can't risk him? We can't risk him turn into nominate. Let me throw something back at you. So you weren't here last week when Sean. Mcvay was on the show. And I asked him what percentage healthy is Todd Gurley and Shaw McVeigh's answer was you'd have to ask tot. So in other words, he knew he was if he was one hundred zero healthy he would've said he would have said, he's good. He's good to go. Right. What percentage you'd have to ask tot? That's still suggests to me that something's not quite right. I mean, those who were there people that were on the sidelines at Gurley was applying heat to its knee. And he was riding the bike a lot especially in the second half. So I think you your theory that there is some type of an injury there might be right? And by the way, in the end, I mean, C J Anderson. You know, I think he had forty four yards Todd Gurley had twelve I mean, it was a day for Jared Goff is a great way or and and flip it to the saints. They didn't run the ball. Yeah. No. They just one of those days where you're going to win it through the air. Why pulled up who do you think the five according to pro football, focus? I've got the five most valuable defensive players yesterday the five most valuable shot. All right. Well, they know on a scale. On a scale, Lord or one of them has to be in dummy. Consumer Dhamma get sue is number three eighty graded out eighty three out of one hundred football focus, just because he always is there. I'll say Aaron Don Aaron Donald graded out at ninety five point two number one number one. Okay. Because Michael Thomas did nothing is a keep to leave on their keep Toledo's number five seventy seven point one out of one hundred just because he made the biggest play of the game is John Johnson on the Johnson's number. Are you really good at this game? John johnson. Number two, eighty four point two. You're missing one guy. He made a fantastic play at the end of the game. Okay. Well, it can't be Joyner because he screwed that thing up. Made a fantastic play at the end of the game at the very end of vents of player defensive player. Tasks won the game. It do they cancer line. It's a defensive Nicole Roby Coleman. Oh my gosh. Why wouldn't have got that? Right. It out at nine point one. But of course, he gets credit for past defense on that very last play. Right. So that that certainly helped him. But yeah, I thought it interesting that keep ta- leave is there and John Johnson the third is there. Those guys have a great gaze is definitely one of the reasons why Michael Thomas didn't have a great game yesterday. Let's do. Okay. Let's do offense the players since we're at five offensive players for the ranch yesterday. One has to be Goff. Jared Goff is number three seventy three point three on a scale of one hundred. I thought Brandin cooks was excellent. I'll I'll say he's in Brandin cooks is number four. Okay. Now do linemen count because the Rams line was great. Are there? Any linemen in the group. Yes, there are well, then take your pick put any of the linemen in there. All all say linemen, plural. Andrew Whitworth is their top graded offense played eighty one point five. And then I is there. Another skill position player on their two more scope position players, Gerald Everett had some huge Harold average sixty nine point four. On more and he's become one of Jared goff's favorite targets. Oh, tyler. He no not higby. The other the other favorite target. And what we'll watch Reynolds. Oh, yeah. Our Woodson do write it out at at a seventy. So those are at least cornering pro football, focus. I'm always amazed at this principle focus watches every single game in grades every single player in every single game. And release these numbers. It's a subscription thing that I subscribe to, but it's really valuable. It's a great way to know like who's playing really well and who's not playing really well. All right. So let me throw this into the mix and then we're going to do fast track. But we have a lot of ram Steph fasttrack. So we're not forgetting about the ramps on Peter King the great football writer. Yes, he's on social media right now doing in a campaign. He got a question here. It is. Is there a snowball's chance in hell that the NFL admits they were wrong in allowing the chargers to leave San Diego and gets them back down south. Here's kings answer. I don't see it. But it's hard to predict the future. They certainly aren't setting L A on fire, but dean Spanos tells me they're playing the long game will see entries of fact that this is even being discussed is fascinating to me because I think yesterday was checkmate in for the hearts and minds of LA a week after the chargers don't show up for a playoff game in New England. The Rams make it to the Super Bowl. If you're somebody looking for a team and your new NFL fan, or if you're a kid or jump just jumping on you know, much Rams merchandise is going to sell this week in LA and nobody's buying charger stuff. No. So. You know, I would like to think people say you don't make AFC wildcard shirts yet. I would like to say that, you know, people always say you can never go back. I've never believed that Phil Jackson got fired up by the Lakers came back and let them to two more titles. I really think you can always push Humpty Dumpty back together. The the new stadium in San Diego all would be forgiven. You totally agree with fasttrack coming up at first. Let me talk to you about my buddy, Matt Unger. You know him as the man from Lexus Santa Monica. Great dealership. Great people. Always there to help you. Now. Matt has added Toyota's Santa Monica, and he's the new GM there. So he has to dealerships. Now, he took all the Lexus skills and deals down the street to trae otas, Santa Monica, and he's running both places. First thing that did was add valley parking to make it easier to get in and out. Everybody knows how hard that can be in Santa Monica. Then Matt got his team busy to make the best guest experience for you customer service. This is where under makes the difference. He. He is the best car guy. No Mason, and I've been in business forever. We've seen a lot of car guides. Some are great summer a little sleazy. Matt is top of the list, but he's had a bad car buying experience. You just never get that. If you deal with Matt Unger goes zoo fleas now at two dealerships, Lexus, Santa Monica, and Toyota, Santa Monica pick up a card from both places. Toyota's Santa Monica and Lexa Santa Monica, proud members of the L A car guy family of dealerships fasttrack next ESPN, LA breaking news. All right time for fast brush by Rex Rex dedicated helping homeowners save using game changing technology a full service experience. No middleman, Rex cutting agent commissions by seventy percent to get started an unlock your savings. Visit Rex homes dot com. All right. John one side of the coin, let's let's put the Golden State Warriors on the other side of the coin. Let's put the injury ravaged Los Angeles Lakers tonight at Staples Center. Call it in the air. Well, of course, the Lakers beat him one twenty seven to one zero one at Golden State. They won't beat them by twenty six tonight, but they will win Lakers by three. We got the Lakers. You going to have to make a pilgrimage to a Saint for American for that. Now, the Rams are in the coverage. Workout right? All right mates. There are two hundred and twenty six former major league baseball players in the hall of fame, and they have one thing in common. Not a single one has arrived to Cooperstown as a unanimous selection. Babe Ruth, not Hank Aaron not Willie Mays not even Ted Williams or STAN Musial, Roberto Clementi. So Mark Townsend from Yahoo is asking this question will Mariano Rivera be the first ever unanimous choice. The closest we've come to a unanimous hall of Famer was Ken Griffey junior. In twenty sixteen junior was named on four hundred thirty seven of four hundred forty ballots that were cast hall of fame class gets announced. Tomorrow Rivera was named on one hundred percent of the one hundred and eighty five nomination ballots. So the nomination ballots. Everybody said, of course, he should be nominee will any of these ole school. Will baseball cranks? Keep Mariano Rivera from being unanimous. What do you think? Well. Let's say there's four hundred forty ballots, right? He's got to get all four forty even Kim by it's just in your top ten yet. If you just have to be named in the top ten on your Bali has to be the year right there. There are first of all I think the the voting body has gotten younger, right, right? So maybe there's so many other who like believes save should not be a thing. I want their name. I want to know who doesn't vote for Mario. I'm going to happen. You think it's gonna be unanimous? I mean, thanks because in this day and age to come out. Right. And I don't know who could possibly justify not voting. Yeah. For myron. We're I think this national travesty ends this year. I hope so Greg you say, no, I think no, I think one guy will do this just because it's like, you said names come out. So their name will be out they'll go. Yeah. Like Fred Hickman that one year didn't vote for shack for MVP. And he was the only one right? He they want their want to go on the radio show their fifteen minutes of fame. You might be right. All right. Let's see football's got a new threat. It's insurance new article by Steve fenra and Mark fan or Awada from the NFL directly facing stark new threat and evaluating insurance market that is fundamentally altering the economics of the sport squeezing and even killing off programs faced with higher costs. The NFL no longer has a general liability insurance covering a head trauma caused you to multiple surface. Sources just one carrier is willing to provide workers comp right now. Pop Warner little scholars which oversees two hundred and twenty five thousand youth players forced to switch insurers. John butler. Pop. Warner's executive director says quote, people say football will never go away. But if we can't get insurance it will will insurance be the end of football. No. Because insurance basically is a hedge fund game, you can get insured for. Almost anything at Lloyd's of London, David Lee. Roth the old lead singer van Halen had paternity insurance words, he paid Lloyd's of London. And if he got a girl pregnant, and she said, you're the father of my baby Lloyd's of London had to pay the paternal paid some outrageous some for like two million a year. So you could football can get out may cost them. Well, they could so much money that it becomes not cost fake could simply say, we're not ensuring against head Trump right and make wave and if you're a pop Warner league, how do you get insurance for kids ages have kids sign off their right? That's what they're going to have to do. They're going to sign a disclaimer that has nothing to do with my hand and being kids will ever say, no, I won't play football. Now. What's interesting about this is there? There becomes an bring this up on Martin Luther King day. They there becomes a racial component to this. Seventy percent of the NFL is black and. The inner city kids who are mostly being recruited by the Alabama's and the US the Florida's. So at some point is it morally conscionable to allow young black kids to sign away their rights, while young white kids played lacrosse and don't get hurt. So that's a national debate to. Yes, it is. But I can't see your questions. So I don't duck it. No. I don't think insurance will be the end of football because I think kids even fifty years from now we'll still sign away. The right. I think I do think pop Warner should stop playing tackle football that I think is made flag big issue is that when kids start young, you know, every one of those concussions and micro concussions are happening. I think there shouldn't be tackled football until kids get to high school. I don't I would support your plan. Their support the Mason plan there. You're listening to Caspian Los Angeles, all the all the Mason plants, by the way, or genius. That is not true. This is from Brady McCulloch at the L A times. Undescended first of this year for the first time since nineteen sixty eight when USC's men's basketball team, hosted Nevada. Yeah. There were no song girls at the Galen center on Saturday afternoon. When USC UCLA the song girls were not there all of this. Despite a persistent outcry by song alumni athletic donors, and parents of the current song girls who can't fathom why USC would take away opportunities for students to do something they love, but Lynn Swann has done. Just that in a press release swan is now telling anybody who asked that quote game management concerns time constraints and space issues are to blame and the song girls. Still don't think they've gotten an adequate explanation of why they've been told not to go to the basketball games part of me thinks that it's UNC basketball. And nobody goes to these games. Anyway. But another part of me thinks what event is not better by having the USC song girls, if it's anything if it's a swim. Meet so you understand what US's doing no cannot. And by the way, I think the US marching band plays the national anthem at at home games now in full disclosure. There is a USC dance team that plays to canned music, the song girls only to the band. Right. So the bands already there, but the song girls. The song girls are a great traditions. Mike just came tumbling to the to the growth. My the song girls are great tradition. I don't understand not having the song girls. Great. What am I missing here? White. What would be the reason to ban the song girls from USC basketball game? I can't think of one thing why it doesn't make any sense. They should be. They're always there UCLA has all their dance team. And in the song, and the USC son girls are famous for the brand. Yeah. I mean for the the skirts in the big USC across their chest. And they're all super good looking. Now, do you think it has anything to do with the me too era? I, you know, if you're not getting rid of them at the football games. Yeah. Why not have met vast line on the basketball game? So I think if it was something to do with. You know, women being treated ornamental, e or whatever then you don't want to celebrate that and you don't want to have the dance team. Right. But the other dance team and the song girls. They've if somebody knows let us know. Yeah. Twitter at Venice maze at LA Ireland. I cannot think of one reason why is doing this. Fouls. Chide comedy is in a period of extraordinary flux past two years of witness the reputations of revere comics such as Louis K as these Zaari implode in the metoo allegations. Stand up sir being held to account for problematic jokes. They've made online. Kevin Hart is nicks example that Michelle wolf did the White House correspondents dinner in two thousand eighteen it was received so badly that they this year. There will be no comedian right doing the correspondents' dinner. Is stand up comedy dead. Well, there's been a rise in political correctness that is hard to control. Here's my thought on this whole stand up comedy thing. There is no one putting a gun to your head to go. Listen to any particular comedian if you are offended by Louis C K, you don't have to follow them until she'll media. You don't have to watch performances the market will dictate whether or not his comedy will work or not. And I think that there is I thought the way that Kevin Hart was treated for something that happened ten years ago was a really bad warning sign for any comedian who accepts one of these gigs. Because now if you accept a gig to host, the Oscars host the Emmy's people are going to comb through your social media grants from ten years ago to see if you did anything offensive and times chain, but in furnace all Kevin Hart had to do was apologize right away. Great have been fun. He chose not to apologize. Yeah. But I thought he did after a while he did while. But you do it to me if we're laying at a no host Oscars. We we are nobody nobody wants to jump right because we've made it impossible. And you know, what here's the thing through the seventies. There were no host for the Oscars. Johnny Carson did some and a lot of them were no host Oscars. I don't think it's necessarily gonna make a difference in the show a little short ticket back to your original question. It's stand up comedy dead at least. And I went to a stand up night where it was anything offensive tons of stuff, but we're just not easily offended and the so we chose to go spend the night there. And listen to these guys some of the stuff, I laughed at some of this stuff. I didn't. But I'm I just don't understand. I think Louis C K. Should be able to do whatever he wants. And it's up to me whether or not I think, it's funny. And if I don't think it's funny. I don't have to pay is an extreme example because of sample because of your question because no. But he's not it's not because of what he said that he's in trouble. He is not what he's done. Well, and also he's not like he's getting now because apparently he told jokes about the power going parkland kids. I mean, I heard that routine. It's awfully which I can't imagine that anybody would find that funny. The punchline of that joke was people booed when he did the joke about the parkland kids, right? And he said don't Bumi my career's over anyway. Yeah. So I mean, he knows that he's down in flame. Right. My thought on that is let comedians do what they do. And then the market you, and I and everybody else will decide whether or not it works. Louis C K as already come to the conclusion that he's been phased out on the Mark. Well, here's the thing that comics are going to be. On right. We'll ever comics like smart comics, people like John appetite things. John Mullany made an appearance on Davidson, John Mullany is just more clever. He's smarter. Jerry Seinfeld is a frigging genius Dylan. I went to to Jerry Seinfeld concert in San Antonio a couple years ago. We watched him do ninety minutes without a bad word. You put it on the Disney channel just be really really good to be a comic nowadays. Yeah. And but I think that I'm in favor of leading comics push the limits, and then letting us decide whether or not it works. I don't want to put a muzzle on anybody. And I don't I don't either I don't either. But people have to realize that you've got to be better. You've got to be better. Probably. All right coming up next more fast track. We're back in two minutes. Mason and Ireland ESPN LA.

Rams Mason football Dr Martin Luther King Michael Thomas Jared Goff Todd Gurley USC Lakers basketball Josina Anderson LA Michael Pearson Steve fenra Tommy Cheung Shuzo Goff NFL Tony Romo George Raveling chargers
Senate Impeachment Trial Latest; U.K. Ambassador On Brexit

Here & Now

41:53 min | 1 year ago

Senate Impeachment Trial Latest; U.K. Ambassador On Brexit

"From NPR and WBZ. I'm Tanya Moseley. I'm Jeremy Hobson. It's here now and I'm in Iowa today where the caucuses are just a few days away but in Washington it is another very significant day in the Senate impeachment trial of President Trump. Although at this moment it appears the senators will vote against calling any witnesses after Tennessee. Hennessy Senator Republican Lamar Alexander announced last night that he would not support calling witnesses. Let's bring in Asia Roscoe pure White House reporter. She's in Washington Hacia. Hello so there are as soon as you think that this thing is over and done with Then things change and there are reports today that this trial now could stretch into to next week. What do we know about that? And what's expected to happen today. We know that today there will be a vote on whether they're going to have witnesses. Mrs We don't expect that there will be witnesses of the questions are about what will happen next like what will be the process of concluding this trial. And that's so we don't know we're thinking that we may find out more this afternoon But this is something and I say that carefully because as you said This has been some. This has been a process process where there have been a lot of twists and turns in unexpected turn of events and it seems like until the very end we. It's it's is going to be some suspense. Okay we'll we'll keep watching to see what happens and obviously we'll bring our listeners up to date if anything changes but on the issue of witnesses. How risky is is it? For Republicans to vote no on witnesses when polls show that three quarters of Americans do want to hear from witnesses. That's really the question. Will Americans hold this against senators and will they view this process as not being fair. If there there are no witnesses I I've been talking to Republican strategists and they acknowledged that more news may come out in as as we speak news his is coming out but they think that's something that Republicans have likely just resigned themselves to. I'm an at this point. The view is that if you open the door to witnesses that could open up other lines of inquiry and Republicans. Really don't WanNa go there at this point we're also a very long way from Election Day In the question is is this even though. This is an historic event. How much is this going to matter in the months from now going into the election? I'm sure a few things will happen between between now and November. That we'll also be talking about when you talk about more news by the way the New York Times reporting on new revelations from John Bolton the former national security advisers book And also we've got some news of our own. which is that Senator Lamar Alexander who we just talked about who is not seeking reelection spoke with NPR. Steve inskeep today and we are going to now play for the first time a little bit of that interview. Why not hear witnesses? I don't need any more evidence to decide at the president did what he's charged with doing. So if you've got eight witnesses saying that you left the scene of an accident. You don't need nine so I don't need more evidence to make my decision that the president did what he's charged would do it and you have no doubt that. The president's motive was not some altruistic the effort to wipe out corruption in Ukraine. You agree with the accusation that he was attempting to influence. US politics and specifically this year's election. Well One I. I agree that he called the president of Ukraine and asked him to investigate the Biden's because the president said he did that too from all the evidence it i. I was persuaded that at least in part. He withheld the aid in order to encourage that investigation. Now I have no idea what was in his mind but based on what what I heard I was convinced at least in part. He withheld the aid in order to encourage the investigation. So you were pretty sure about that and yet you seem inclined not to vote for conviction anymore than you wanNA vote for witnesses. Why would that not be? You don't apply capital punishment to every offense. There's a reason Asian wine two hundred and thirty years we've never removed a president Through the impeachment clause because the founders envisioned that the people would make the decision assist about who the president is and in this case. The election begins on Monday and in Iowa. So That's interesting I usually. He's saying that Impeachment is not the remedy for what happened a removal from office. Not the remedy for what happened. Democrats would say well if you let this go. What kind of precedent does that set for future presidents and what they I think they can get away with? And that's that's the argument. That Democrats have been making the argument. That senator Alexander is making is not the argument that the White House is making the White House says the president did absolutely nothing wrong that it was a perfect call and so by him saying that he believes the Democrats made their case That's going going directly against the White House. That is Asia Roscoe who's NPR's White House reporter of following the developments which continue to unfold in in the impeachment trial as it gets underway again. Today I used to thank you thank you the. US State Department is warning against Americans. Travelling to China as corona virus continues to spread quickly American Delta and United Airlines are the latest temporarily suspend all remaining. US flights to China the World World Health Organization has declared a global emergency cases of the diseases have been found in more than a dozen countries. Here's the W. H. O.. Director General. Great -SCONSIN is the potential for the virus to spread to countries with weaker health systems. And we are prepared to deal with it. More than two hundred people have died and nearly ten thousand people have been infected here. In the the United States there are six confirmed cases including the first domestic person to person transmission in Chicago for the latest. We're joined by. NPR science correspondent. Richard Heard Harris and Richard. This story is developing so quickly because this virus seems to be spreading so fast Their new cases popping up everywhere and beyond halting flights as I mentioned inch and what are some countries doing to lessen the risk well those measures you mentioned include those travel bans both inside China and internationally the US State Department Armand is now told Americans not to travel to China and it's not just a sort of a don't think think about not doing it it. It is a level four warning. That's the same. We have against trout. Travelled able to Iraq or North Korea or Syria Venezuela. So this is this is a serious red flag obviously an arguably more important is what's happening within China China like kids are being told not to go to school. Schools are closed and many workers are being told to stay home so the hope is that at the site the epicenter of this epidemic. They can slow it by just basically telling people you know. Just stay at harm's way for a while this blow over yeah as I mentioned The US now has its first first person into person transmission in Illinois. What more do we know about that case? That's right yeah Since the earliest days of this epidemic in China the disease has been spreading person to person. So that's a feature of the diseases. We shouldn't be surprised that that's happening here. The first five cases in the US. We're all people who had traveled from China and so they picked it up there and the question was just how contagious viruses. And how likely it was that these first cases would lead to others and Not Not too surprisingly. We've seen now one such case. This man who said is sixty sixty and lives in Chicago caught the virus and his wife who had picked up her infection in China they had very close contact including after she fell ill also. It's really not surprising that he got sick. He is now in the hospital in stable condition. His wife is feeling much better according to state health officials and but she's also staying put the hospitals hospitals a way to control the spread of the disease and health officials. Weren't you know we may see more cases like this is not. Wouldn't it be at all surprising. But as long as public health officials can keep on top op of each one of these cases that really reduces the risk that this will Spread out of control here in the US. You know one thing that we've been hearing a lot about is the comparison between the corona virus. Chris and SARS can can you talk about that Quickly in terms of how quickly this is spreading and how deadly it's been right the corona virus. They're both corona viruses. The SARS the case was A little bit hard to know what really happened at the beginning because trying to head basically locked down and was not even admitting that there was a problem until pretty late in the epidemic. So it's hard to really make a direct comparison Between these two cases well we can't say as the SARS virus ended up being deadly in about ten percent of the people who are were infected affected with it. This virus appears to be much much less deadly And so from what we know now that subject to change as we learn more about this but but white it's spreading so quickly I is is really comes down to the math because this apparently cropped up in mid December possibly a little bit earlier from a live animal market get in the city of Wuhan and scientists have been watching it and it's been doubling every day so every seven days. Pardon me so you can see you know you start with small numbers and then the numbers start art to get bigger than every seven days. They double so so. It's a snowballing effect. And that will continue to be the case until public health measures. Really bring it under control yet. You know some health officials officials here in the United States cautioned that Americans should be more concerned about the flu. Then this corona virus can you say more about that. Well in terms of sheer numbers burgers. the flu kills far more people that kills a in. This country kills tens of thousands of people every year and and it is also like this This new corona virus it's respiratory disease that spreads pretty readily from one person to another so So that's one reason. Health officials get up every year. And you say you really ought to get your flu vaccine because that is a really deadly serious disease. It's at least partially preventable with a vaccine and by the way it's still not too late to get your vaccine if you haven't gotten already now I was actually in Beijing. Backed in the SARS epidemic in two thousand and three and one thing that I noticed there was that the streets were which are usually an incredibly bustling muscling city. Usually they were empty or almost empty. The Chinese government had really compelled people to stay home. You know just keep things quiet and I think that really made a big difference there. So that's that's their strategy right now that's NPR science correspondent. Richard Harris. Thank you so much Richard. It's my pleasure I'm broadcasting the show. Today from Cedar Falls Iowa the state where the presidential nominating contests gets underway. Monday with the Iowa caucuses. It is a crowded field of candidates. campaigns and outside groups have spent tens of millions of dollars on ads trying to persuade voters and yet poll show. Many Iowans remain undecided with just three days to go. Let's go across the state to moines where we're joined by Carol Hunter who is executive editor of the Des Moines Register. Hi Carol good afternoon so you're coming out with a poll tomorrow night that everybody is waiting for it's sure to make headlines one way or the other You can't give us that information right now. But what's your sense of. Who's got the energy right now in Iowa? I think that's really hard to peg. But I'll say that WHO has the energy are Iowa caucus goers you'll you're seeing across the state DIG Crowds Alves For All of the caucus candidates We've kind of had a pack of four throughout most of the lead up to the caucuses that have been leading leading in our poll Bernie Sanders Elizabeth Warren Pete Buddha judge and Joe Biden But the some of the other candidates like Andrew Andrew Yang and Amy Klobuchar had been getting good crowds as well Tom Style. So you you sense a real energy all over the state we I heard the phrase In the past three tickets out of Iowa. How many tickets will there be this year? Could there be four or more. I think that's kind of been an interesting interesting speculation as we've seen this sort of quartet emerge in poll after poll But of course the whole who wins in Iowa is about expectations as much as the actual numbers at times. So I think one of the interesting things will be if anyone sort of drops back out of that four That will make them not meet expectations. And and could Spell not such good coverage coverage for that candidate or if any of the other sort of quote lower tier candidates like an Andrew Yang. Amy Klobuchar if they break up into that top four they argued bleated say hot. Hey I'm a winner out of this caucus Let's hear some of what the candidates are saying in their final pitch to tha voters. Starting with Bernie Sanders here. He of course he's been in Washington stuck there at the impeachment trial but he did come last weekend. Sioux city here. He is an event there. If the voter turnout Out is high. We win my plea to you is led us a week from tomorrow night. Have the largest voter turnout in Iowa caucus history. Thank you all very much now. One of the things he's relying on and we've heard a lot. What about the enthusiasm? Among young voters for Bernie Sanders. Is that those young voters who may be new or infrequent. Voters actually turn out. What do you think think about that? and and how risky that will be his campaign in some ways. I think this is one of those there's always exceptions to a rule And Young voters turn out when they're energized and Bernie has a very energetic core group of supporters It's also in Bernie's favor favor in Senator Sanders FA- favor that He ran here of course In the last cycle he has this core of support that it has stayed by him this entire time. I think one of the key questions is candy kind of break beyond that core of his supporters into new caucus goers into caucus-goers that might have looked at other candidates and can he win them to his more progressive style of politics. What about former vice president? Joe Biden. Here he is at a campaign event in Muscatine Iowa on Tuesday. The whole impeachment trial for trump is just a political political. Hit Job to try to spare me because he is scared to death to run against me and he has good reason to be concerned. Good reasonably concerned. So so one of the things that we've heard from voters In the last few days here in Iowa they they like Joe Biden. They may well vote for Joe Biden her caucus for Joe Biden. But they're also not as enthusiastic about Joe Biden as Bernie Sanders. Supporters are for him What do you think about that? I do think that Joe. Oh Biden is well liked across the state. He's run here many times To run for president himself and then of course as vice president So I think the thing to watch with Former Vice President Biden is whether people decide he is there safe bet and they want to come home to him or whether all these other candidates making pitches if people say Okay I'm now okay. Getting used to another candidate. I've learned more about them and I think I feel comfortable with them as well Former South Bend Indiana mayor. Pizza judge has been crisscrossing. This state as many of his competitors have been stuck in Washington for the impeachment trial. We spoke with him the other day in Mason City here. He is speaking at a town hall in Vinton Iowa. We are not going. Take a single vote for granted. And we're not going to write a single vote off anyone prepared to caucus for the future is a potential caucus goer for this campaign and like I said I. It was a place where we can turn heads and change the whole country's expectations about what is possible with your help. What are your expectations for judge? Well I think he's in a good position He is getting very large crowds. As as the top four all are but he he came into this race really is kind of an unknown and but has been steadily At part of that top quartet as long as he kind of places safely within that I think he can say hey we went to know where to being part of this national conversation and if he does end up being at the top of that Coretec chat he's got a great story to tell. We're not hearing a lot about Michael Bloomberg here in Iowa because he is not competing in Iowa but we are hearing about the other the billionaire. Tom Steyer do you think he could be a surprise. He has certainly put a lot of money into the airways and our in our last poll which was is in early January. He hadn't made much of a movement but he's had that many more weeks to have his adds up and he's also spent quite a bit of time in rural Iowa outside of the Des Moines Metro. So if he can carry some of those precincts out in rural areas he could make a mark. It's also interesting that he made the debate stage basically because he had pulled fairly well in South Carolina and Nevada mostly Asli on the basis of ads. So having that much more ad time will that plane is favor. What about Elizabeth Warren? Do you expect The precinct captains for her and Bernie Sanders to be doing some trading on caucus night trying to get each other's voters over. I think the way that yet the the caucus rules have changed slightly for this year. I think there'll be less trading because if you go to your first first alignment you go in with your first choice and your candidates viable then you're locked into that choice and in most cases as one would think that those two are popular enough candidates that they would have more than fifteen percent I The they've really changed the rules to try to down play The game manship involve so we'll see if it works. President trump was Into Moines last night there is also also a Republican caucus on Monday. Is there anything you're going to be watching for in that contest. It's always hard on off years for a party because very few people come Out to the Party caucuses just the real die hards who come to to talk about the platform and elect delegates. But he's doing something very unusual. He's flooding flooding the state with surrogate very high profile ones. Most of his cabinet. I think will be out here as well as members of his family so he certainly trying to stir up enthusiasm for his Ron and he remains very very popular. All of our polls have shown among voters Republican voters here in Iowa that is Carol Hunter Executive Editor of the Moines Register. Their poll is coming out tomorrow night. Carol thanks for joining us. Happy to be here. Scientists scientists at Stanford University say ninety. Eight point six degrees. Fahrenheit is no longer the average body temperature at least here in the United States they say modern life if has set off a cooling trend in our bodies. Leslie McClurg from Member Station K. Q. E. D. reports one night my infant daughters forehead felt clammy and hot. I freaked out. When the digital thermometer linked one hundred and three degrees turns out? My daughter was okay. It also turns out that I was comparing temperature reading to a false standard People should not be stuck ninety eight six as being some magical number that if you're above you're feverish or if you're below at your healthy Julia parsonage listening is an infectious disease. Doctor Stanford she and her colleagues reviewed three large health data sets over time. So we're saying since the industrial revolution the temperature has dropped about one point one degree Fahrenheit. This isn't the first time. Scientists have noted a decline in our average body temperature before they thought the problem had to do with false readings from older thermometers. The person that says actually Americans are cooling off but I think are leading. Hypothesis is that we just have fewer chronic infections. Now than we did in the past dysentery malaria tuberculosis. Don't show up Americans. The way they used to we have cleaner water. Better sanitation antibiotics vaccines we take aspirin ibuprofen. We're not this inflammatory mass that we used to be plus most homes or cozy. We have central heating and air conditioning. Our bodies aren't struggling to stay warm or cool all the time time but without changing our genetic makeup we are changing physiologically over time. We've seen that people have grown taller. They've grown fatter and their body temperature apertures declining over time so the new average body temperature according to Parsons data. Ninety seven point five the next step she says is to see if the cooling trend is global. She wonders whether the average hemp is still slightly higher in a developing country where chronic infections are more common or in harsher climates like the Arctic where. It's tougher to stay warm for here and now I'm Leslie McClurg. Katie sours will make history on Sunday as the first first woman coach in a super bowl. sours is an assistant coach for the San Francisco. Forty niners offense but her roots in Kansas City. Home of the chiefs. Who will play? The forty niners liners and super bowl. Fifty four in Miami Greg Acklin from member station Casey. You are has the story of her path to this moment. Liz sours hours. Katie's twin sister says at all sank in on January nineteenth when the clock hits zero and Westwood. One radio announced the results. It'll be the Kansas the city chiefs and the San Francisco. Forty niners in Miami for Super Bowl. Fifty four the forty niners had just beaten the Green Bay. Packers Chris to win the NFC title a few hours earlier while the forty niners were warming up. Liz used a gesture not chiefs fans to let her sister Katie. Know the news the sideline I was looking at Katie. And I did the Arrowhead Chop to make sure she knew that the chiefs one and she nodded at me and I nodded at her and that was kind of our signal. Like let's take care of business at Media Day in Miami this week. Katie sours showed off her left forearm which is tattooed with the Kansas City skyline. What the thirty? Three year old isn't showing as any bravado about becoming part of NFL history as the First Woman and the coaching sky box at a super super bowl. sours is also the first open LGBTQ coach in the NFL and yes at the Super Bowl to. I've never been one one to try to be the first because I think when you try to be the first year racing other women I think what's most important is. I'm not the last. Katie SARS grew up and chiefs country Heston Kansas about thirty five miles north of Wichita. Her Dad Floyd sours was a basketball coach nearby Bethel college in Katie says she followed followed in his footsteps. I knew I wanted to be a teacher a coach or counselor Kinda got all three Katie's hours also had a knack for making the right connections. Sion's she met Kansas City chiefs former general manager Scott Piola while coaching his fifth grade daughter in basketball pianolas says there was something about her voice that struck him she teaches voice. She had a caring voice at demanding voice. She knew what she was talking about. She knew what she was doing. She was experienced erased and she just she just terrific job. Peonies time in Kansas City. Didn't then well in his last year. Or Two thousand twelve the chiefs finished with a two and fourteen record record so while figuring out his next career move he talked a sour. Who at the time was an athletic director for the Kansas City Missouri's parks and Recreation Department? It's funny when we met yeah she. She was coaching my daughter in other friends daughters and she wore me out after practice after Games asking asking me questions about Football Jersey. I used to do sours as big break. Came when she got an internship at the Falcons in Atlanta where PEO landed as an assistant assistant GM also in Atlanta as an assistant coach was future. Forty niners coach Kyle Shanahan. He brought hours to San Francisco to join the team in two thousand seventeen coincidence aside Katie Sour says the Super Bowl matchup between the chiefs in the forty niners is a dream come true. I couldn't have had a better idea of a super bowl in my head. I couldn't have picked better. Two teams play. I'm I'm so excited for Sunday. And it's it's GonNa be fun for here now. I'm Greg Clinton. Today is the day. I'm not talking about impeachment. I'm talking about Brexit. It is finally happening after more than three years of bitter debate. They just took down the UK flag at the EU Council building in Brussels because the United Kingdom's departure archer from the European Union is official at eleven pm British time tonight Prime Minister. Boris Johnson will release a video at that hour calling breaks at the dawn of a new era and supporters will celebrate right in Parliament Square in London joining us now. Is Michael Tatum. Who is the acting British ambassador to the United States with from Washington ambassador? Welcome to here now. Thank you so good to be here. What do you think that this is a day for celebration? I think all of you is that this is neither a day for celebration. Norfolk commiseration It's a day for looking forward and for approaching the challenges that will faces as as the UK outside the in a spirit of confidence in the spirit of purpose and in a spirit of calmness. The Prime Minister and the government wants to move forward On that basis trying to to bring the country together behind behind the opportunities present themselves for the UK in a post brexit world. What are the challenges that you're most concerned about? It's it's it's GonNa be a big. This is a big deal for the UK For over four decades. UK has been part of the EU and integrated into into EU frameworks And structures And so I am. It will be a big deal. stepping Away from all of that and I think that will be certainly lots of challenges that come from that. But I wouldn't put the emphasis on the challenges. I would put the emphasis on On on the opportunities this is a a big change. But it's a change bring bring brings with it Opportunities Opportunities in the political space opportunities in the trading space and opportunities so the UK On the international stage as an international actor well and I I imagine that it would be fine to call those opportunities also challenges especially when it comes to trade trade. What what is the relationship with the European Union going to look like or what is the dream scenario with Boris Johnson of what the new UK trade relationship with Europe look like yeah they with me a little bit and I'll also talk through? I'll try not to get too into the weeds process but I think one important point to a note is that we leave the EU In a few hours time But we go into what's called an implementation period And during that implementation mutation period We will continue to operate. Essentially within the regulatory frameworks and the purpose here is to give ourselves breathing space During during which we will negotiate with the with the aim of reaching an agreement with The European Union on what our future trading arrangements will be so I think the objective we're working towards is to use the eleven months or so of the Implementation Period to negotiate purposely constructively with the U2 agree those future trading arrangements which will then kick in The point that we that implementation period ends the end of this year. That is the objective. We have avenue scenario that we are We are working towards and I think it says Naria Wichita partners in the EU broadish so. I think there's a sense of convergence surround trying to achieve. That is the ideal situation that you're trading relationship with Europe would be almost what it is pre brexit Y- we'll have to see where those negotiations go But I think the important point to note is Prime Minister Johnson and this government have being very clear that the arrangement they envisage is not one of a regulatory alignment with just a few exceptions is of the UK having having control over its own laws and seeking a free trade agreement With with the so would I would expect that they will be Some areas a AH change in some areas of continuity like wouldn't want to go much further than that. Because you know obviously we'll see we'll have to see how those negotiations On unfold. Well what do you say to those who have watched this entire process over the last few years and say well what is eleven more months going to do to get The differences sorted out between the UK A and Europe every time we come up to a deadline it just gets extended. Well we're coming out to a deadline and a few time and it's not going to be extended the UK is going to leave the the The European Union and what I would say candidacy is yes. This is cool. It's been a difficult period For the UK delivering covering Brexit after the referendum result was a difficult and protracted process it created a lot of political Toco debate and division within within the UK but again You know I I think I approach it through a positive Mindset we are here on the eve of of leaving the European Union. We're doing that with a withdrawal role agreement in place that has been negotiated with the a you that charts a clear way forward provides continuity where that's really Important so I not saying it's been An easy All smooth process but what I am saying. Is that getting to this point. We've managed to reconcile differences with the an approach Withdraw rule from an agreed standpoint with an agreement In place and I think there's a a good prospect as well we can do that in respect to future trading arrangements over the next Lebanon so as I said that the star I think the mood in in the UK government Is is one of purposefulness confidence and optimism from that. We can make progress on those negotiations over the course of this year. Well let's talk about trade with the United States Do you have confidence that you're going to be able to reach a trade agreement quickly. With president trump given that even with some of the closest allies of the United States Canada and Mexico is took a long longtime to get a trade deal and there were a lot of tariffs and it wasn't a very pleasant process. Yeah I I do have confidence and I am to mystic that we can make good progress In those trade negotiations but equally. I'm not not starry-eyed Here and I'm not naive. We know we understand Dan that Trade Negotiations and trying to reach a trade agreement is a complex and challenging undertaking. We absolutely get that And we also get the fact that there will be some difficult areas under negotiation My Prime Minister Prime Minister Johnson has already been cleared. They'll be Important Principles which will be looking to uphold and red lines which we will need to To defend so of course it's a it's a big challenge L. Inge but it is one that that we approach with With confidence and from my perspective that's for for two reasons firstly because there's a high level of political enthusiasm for this project both in Washington and in the UK both the US president and the UK Prime Minister have expressed strong strong support for this and I think it it helps significantly having that strong political support and goodwill and being able to channel that into The the The the negotiations. The second thing I would say is is this. I genuinely believe that. The Free Trade Agreement between the US and the UK is one that can be good For both countries not looking charity or altruism here we accept that both countries will focus on this Through the national interest. But we think that the big picture is one in which enhanced trading arrangements enhance free trading arrangements between the UK and the US is good for both our countries so when we get into those difficult areas I hope that on both sides we'll be able to keep an eye on that positive Big Picture and be guided by the gains and Opportunities Unity's that that we won't have to realise. US politics could get in the way though. We are in an election year. The Iowa caucuses are coming up On Monday president trump could not be president a year from now. I mean there are I'm going to be political Dimensions the political context on both sides of the Atlantic in both the UK and And and the US and again. I don't WANNA be naive. I they will no doubt create dynamics. Various points in negotiations around substance And time line and so on but like comeback to Ah To what I said you know. Our view is this is something which is good for the UK and for for the US not for any particular government in the UK okay or administration in the US is of wide benefits to both our economies amp both our countries so there will be context. There will be political pressures You know we believe that it will be possible to sustain the negotiations and to make progress Through those that is Michael Tatum. Who is the acting British British ambassador to the United States ambassador? Thank you so much for joining us. Thank you it's been a pleasure and the French President Emmanuel Macron had some words today about Brexit in a briefed TV address he said the UK's exit from the EU is an historic warning sign. That must be heard by all of Europe also said the French people would never forget how how much they owed the UK there's a new streaming service in Hollywood it's called Qube it's for smartphones. Only and it has big names attached to shows with episodes that are only about ten minutes long. You probably never heard of Qube and Qube knows that. Here's a promotional ad featuring Kiefer Sutherland and Kristie teagan is quickly a noun or a verb. Quimby is definitely a noun. I honestly don't know what a noun is So to make sense of Qube and what it could mean for the streaming world we're joined by NPR. TV critic. Eric Dagens Hey Eric Hey I think we learn more about Chrissy Teigen than we did about no. She's she needs some remedial classes in grammar. I think yeah but we won't Judge Okay so Qube is not going to launch until April. But it's already generated a lot of buzz for its ambitious plans. I Actually Watch watch most of my entertainment on my phone through instagram and Youtube. Is this the market that they're trying to tap into. How exactly will service work? Yeah I think that's They're they're obviously going for more youth oriented market. There's a sense I've seen it in my own kids that younger people do a lot of watching on platforms where most of the content is bite sized. You know even on Youtube. A lot of the clips are much smaller than the half hour or hour long the programs that we see on the major streaming services so why not create a streaming service that would specialize in content. That is short form. And you I've always thought as a critic when you're talking about streaming and particularly streaming where you don't necessarily have commercials the programs can be any length. They can be as long as they need to be to tell a story. So why do they have to be a half an hour. Why do they have to be an hour? you know even though programs have generally generally stuck to those programming formats in the larger better known streaming services could be coming along and saying you know let's design something from the ground up that's built to cater to shorter form content and built to create stuff to be watched on mobile devices particularly on your phone now We don't really. I don't have a sense of what that actually means. Because I haven't seen any of these shows I see they're actually going to have a version of sixty minutes called old sixty six so sixty minutes in six minutes. I mean this speaks to exactly what you're saying And perhaps establish shows trying to gain younger audiences. Do you have any idea of some of the content that they've said that they're going to produce will. They've announced a a lot of different. Content deals with a lot of different providers Chris Christie Teigen's GonNa supposedly a wholesome show where she's Running court sort. They've announced a several contributors. There's two this version of sixty minutes. It's going to be on qube including was the lowry. Um Who WanNa Pulitzer for his coverage of crime and shootings things involving people of color at the Washington Post. So qube has has tried to do. I think is established itself as a player by saying we have relationships relationships with all of these well-known creative people in Hollywood to try to make this content. And you know the the two people who are running running the company includes a CO founder of dreamworks and Someone Who Ran Hewlett Packard. So you know and Ebay. So we're you know we're talking about executives who have a lot of connections and have a long track record. We'll see if this translates into programming. Yeah and quickly be again won't be launched until April so we'll see exactly what it shakes out to be. I want to ask you Before you go about the end of NBC's the Good Place. The philosophical comedy wrapped up yesterday after four seasons of for context. This is the sort of show where an episode can open with jokes about candidates for the afterlife in life. Let's listen to the beginning of last night's episode. A new crop of humans just passed their tests among the notables. Who got in Roberto Clementi? Zora Neale Hurston. Saint Thomas Aquinas. Eight centuries Sufi mystic poet has wrought Bibi Rabiya battery and Clara Pillar. She was the. Where's the beef lady? Where's the beef lady got in Eric? What's your final judgment about this show? This show was such a wonderful and and very special anomaly on network television on the surface is just a comedy about the afterlife. But they consulted with philosophers philosophers and you know deep thinkers to try and figure out how to talk about philosophies of life. What does it mean to be? Good what does it mean to be bad so just this incredibly rich thing and then they ended it with his. Very poignant. Finale the really emphasized the bonds of friendship that had developed the monks the characters and talked about ultimately how there's only value in life if you realize that there's an in to it and that's an amazing thing to leave people with in the finale of a a show that lasted several seasons. What a way to India show? I always always hate watching. The finale is but this sounds like it's a perfect ending so I look forward to catching up that's NPR TV critic. Eric Dagens Eric. As always as thank you so much here and now is a production of NPR and W. B. U. R. and association with the BBC World Service. I'm Tanya mostly and I'm Jeremy Hobson. Thanks to our friends here at Iowa. Public Radio Phil Moss Bill while Lean and Keaton Scoville our our coverage produced by Chris Bentley. Alex Ashok. This is here now

Iowa US president United Kingdom Joe Biden NPR President Trump Bernie Sanders China The European Union Hennessy Senator Republican La chiefs Washington Qube Richard Heard Harris Brexit Chicago Carol Hunter vice president Katie
Bill Cunningham 6/25/20

Bill Cunningham

1:22:23 hr | 10 months ago

Bill Cunningham 6/25/20

"The! Cunningham the great American two o'clock today, governor do I will be here. He took his test for covert nineteen. John Houston and the results are at Two o'clock today after thirty five today is Dennis. Neil is good friend and mine. which is Ken Kuch Nellie. Talk there about Cancun Cinelli about what's happening to all the monuments and things of that character, which isn't good, also later on I know. The vice president is going to land. In. Eastern Ohio here at some point, and we're going to have a representative from the RNC about what the announcement is going to be relative to Lordstown and making GM electric pickup. Cheers me pickup trucks. But until then Dennis Neil who's a NASCAR maven Dennis Neil. Welcome again to the Bill Cunningham. Show Dennis our. You will I'm doing fine. So far. I haven't got the COVID nineteen and Yeah, and that's a good thing and So you know we just keep your nose grindstone just working every day and do all we can do. You know I miss you and man and and also. Bobby Bobby, Smith racing report hopefully one day we'll all be back together, but until then the fake news story and numerous individuals have sent me videos from various Talladega. Darlington other racetracks, in which these ropes used a pole down garage doors at the end is a loop is being used in the end side of pole down the garage door. Is You're leaving? And so when this developed about three or four days ago and suddenly you had CNN. You had Lebron James at Social Media at the national. Football. League. It was the lead story ABC NBC and CBS and of course Media on nationally. When crazy netflix's CNN twitter Hollywood ESPN foxsports MSNBC. Professional Athletes New, York Times Washington Post I google search. It was the lead story for like two days then it collapsed when this first broke. What Dennis Neil thing? I thought Oh my goodness This is all we need to have two things going swell of Bob and just you know that the the the stuff that's been going on in this country. Nascar did not need this. It would be a severe black eye and You know Luckily for everybody. It turned out to be one was COMMIT NASCAR for. Last year so. Coming into the twenty first century banning flags, you know you and then you know, help you out. You know and you know be more. You know They actually have a diversity program where they may young men women. Doesn't matter your race or creed, or whatever they have a program they can bring these kids into there had to be drivers. Move up in the system we'll be officials are be crewmen and stuff like that and they've been very active behind the scenes. A lot of people know about and so them to you know two weeks ago, letter was banned the flag and all of a sudden boom. This thing shows up. It's like Oh, my gosh, what can go wrong and Luckily for everyone. Turned out to be what was just a garage to record and you know was amazing to watch. The drivers stand behind Bubba. Push his car up. Before the race started in solidarity, but he and I think. A lot of people have a misnomer. WHAT NASCAR is today versus what it was back in the fifties and sixties you know their major major corporation business just like Toyota informed and. Blocking gamble and so on, and they can't. be insulated a little world. They were back in the sixties. And obviously there are some fans still in that world. And he unfortunately Hud. They make their voice in home, but you Kinda have to tune them out, or you know just a go on and just do what you gotTa. Do to make your sport. Go forward when this happened. I said the same thing that I said Jesse smelly. And he was the TV actor who had to. Foreigners to more or less beat him up because he couldn't find trump supporters to do it. And when this happened, I said there's no way and this happened at a NASCAR event with with individuals there in this climate I find it hard to believe that a noose so I was anticipating there'd be a rope what? Configuration of news hanging in garage number four for Bubba Wallace when I seen the video, and some of my buddies have sent me video from various tracks, in which is common to have this rope hanging from garage door with a loop on the NCAA. You give something hold onto and shut. The door couldn't ask car and figure this thing out within about ten minutes. Well, you know I. Think they did, but I think in all transparency. They said okay. Here's what we're GONNA do. GonNa, calling the officials department of Justice and the FBI as independent investigators to go in here and check this out. Because we do it internally in new sale, there was nothing there they're going to be. You know the conspiracy. That's go crazy. Cover up Blah Blah Blah. And by doing this and having the FBI command into department justice. Who are leading the here's investigations while all these? Incidents. They give it a clean bill of health and everybody says okay, you guys. Didn't have to do it internally. Nascar did not have to you know. Try to cover some up if someone's there, you know that that that flow process would be actor. They didn't have. The bubble Wallace. I couldn't imagine to have access. You've been a nascar most of your life. How difficult is it a day or two before race to have access to a driver's garage? Well for us where media, so we have after pretty good access to it, but underwriting these circumstances, there is a limited number of people period. In that garage and and their their track officials there, the safety crews, the crews are working on the cars. And Nascar officials and EMT's the drivers don't even go to the garage. You're not allowed in there. They had to go right through their motor home to the car. Bolt in and go. And so you know they they would never see it. You know and you know. My thought was my heart. Boy hopes some four others doing practical joke antagonists funny. And you know it would never be funny. It was not be funny any time during history, but you know you'd never know some people but. mascarpone head to the list of everybody was there because they'll have to sign up. You know easy to find out who did it. Exactly yeah, and you know come to find out this garage number four. someone. No one knew what garage bottle is going to be a scientist. He's assigned grabs number four, but some of the put robot near beforehand would have knowledge. That's where Bubbas going to be. Isn't that indication? This wasn't a racial incident at all. And it was exploded by the media and something significant when it didn't occur exactly. I agree with that and You Know I. Think they try to find this anywhere they can, and immediate has face, and if somebody wants to have a practical joke, just a funny or prank, somebody or promote some calls, the worst thing to do is in a controlled environment with Bubba. Wallace to put a nuisance circumstances to me. The media is spring. Spring loaded waiting for something to happen and when it came out within forty eight hours. Guess what guys here's the videos of other garages with exactly the rope in the same configuration, and that particular garage number four and eight months ago had the same rope there and someone sent me a video of numerous race tracks with numerous ropes, hanging from garage doors with the loop on the end. That is not a news bubba Wallace. Even twenty four hours later did not buy it. He gave to CNN which he said. I don't buy it at all. He's still wanted to be the victim of a of a hate crime. I think the media wanted to be a victim and. He said he said on CNN. I don't buy it now. And he had to have known in the business that you see that stuff all the time, correct. So you know because people kid around, and and you know the public ally, you know they. Just Inter interacted each you know, and and they have their jokes and stuff that apparently started I. Think This Day and age. That's those kind of jokes. If people do anymore now you're a fool to not funny. It's not funny. Dentist. Nearly you ready for the big question. The big question is this the last three or four days I've watched an assault verbally upon NASA car in its fans. When I watch ESPN sports reporters, they talk about the guy who rented a plane to fly a banner and the last race, saying the confederate flag, or whatever then they talk about a few people who, outside the racetrack might fly the confederate flag. The implication is there trump supporters and the racist because they're white. The from the South I was his female black reporter last night. Talk about NASCAR ours race problems. They've always had race problems and they're just smearing NASCAR fans the. The tens of millions around the country, and now you get the I had a call yesterday Dennis from a Nascar Fan, who said he and his buddies got together and burned all their NASCAR stuff. They can't stand. At PC HAS NASCAR and now when you look at a Nascar event, you think about the confederate flag. Think about Bubba Wallace. You think about a fake news. You think about issues irrespective of racing. Is there something different? You spent your life a NASCAR? The NASCAR fans of semi, different than NBA fans or NFL, fans or baseball fans now does NASCAR promote racism in your opinion. Do not and. I will go on the record. Saying every sport has their nut jobs. You know and it just that's just all there is to it, and that's why people are. They're just crazy. you know every every. Section of society North South East West they have people that are. Just have their minds with their hate and so on and you. You just can't convince him otherwise, so let them follow it, but my say we don't need him anyways, and that's a good thing for us to think like that and i. don't care what the sport is. You've got baseball basketball football. There are people in there that just hate other people, and sometimes they get a A computer keyboard makes you a hero. To show up to anybody's how you're. GonNa be in the spotlight and take the heat for what you say, and that pretty much one it's gone down to. The Internet is a wonderful thing, but it also has its where he didn't want to be part of it. Well what I look at this when it happened, I said there's doesn't fit. It doesn't make sense to me on Tuesday. Morning at eleven am Bubba. Wallace was on the view and he said quote. I questioned the authenticity of the people questioning this being a hate crime. So bubba Wallace is saying Tuesday morning I know what the FBI said, but still he wants to stay with the fact, a hate crime and I'm looking. I said well. Let me ask you as bubble Wallis far as a driver has. He won NASCAR event yeah. He's one truck races and I think extremely races and actually drove for Kyle Busch. Chow Bush putting a start and is very dry. We're just right now. Richard Petty motorsports probably will. least funded teen to NASCAR ENOUGH MONEY to keep up with everybody else. Hi! Richard Petty's like the Babe Ruth of NASCAR and Richard. Petty's eighty three. How come Richard Petty Enterprises doesn't have the same steam as other NASCAR teams. Just come to a matter of past experience past success. We've had twenty years and you know it's not Richard Petty. Richard Petty actually doesn't own that team. There's other corporations. It's his name on on the on the corporation. They sold out. Yeah, but you know. He doesn't need to be doing the same Morris. It's you know he's. He's getting up there eighty seven years old, but you know there's a lot of teams out there that you know when I say underfunded. There's still using millions and millions and millions of dollars a year as much as hinderaker, rouser or go get you know, but you know it. It's a matter I think bub is If he got team and had a lot of money, I think he'd do well. I really do and you know. We I've met him a lot. We've had shots. Guy, right. Very nice. Person I had my friends with his grandma and facebook you know, and and they. He just very nice. In you know he's he's. There's a lot of pressure from all around on him. Now because all emotionally had breakdown because he was in his mind, he thought somebody inside the camp. was putting a race and he never saw it. He said I've never actually seen the news. My guys told me about it from the time this happened. It's just didn't fit. It just didn't make sense, but is this a black eye for NASCAR GOING FORWARD? Do you think this is going to cause more attendance or less? To to me it just it just makes NASCAR look bad every which way or just it's not a good look. It's not a good look because of the reaction per se how the media portrays. Fever in their shoes are shoes to do the same thing. You like it or not, and you know people were just so over blowing all this stuff with this, not you know, and once it gets rolling a steamrolling. You can't change the narrative. So he's got to write it out and go with it, and you know just keep going what you're doing, and you know Bubbas a great person. He's a great spokesperson for the sports and You know a lot of people like him and You know we'll see if I think the big thing. It'd be nice if he actually got there and won a race or a bunch. You start doing then I think you know. I think the next couple of weeks. This whole thing blow thing about anymore. Dentist Neil Maybe one day. We'll all be back together again with with bobby and what segment who knows what the future holds, but. I knew when I think about NASCAR I, think about you in the Segman. San Willie. I appreciate that you know. We gotta thank you for giving us our start back. Wait twenty seven years ago and it's been a great ride and. Enjoyed every minute of it Dennis Neil. You're a great American and thank you for coming on the bill. Cunningham show Dennis, thank you, God, bless, America and God bless Nascar. Let's continue with more want to get your reaction goes. Kentucky speedway is going to hold a race of course without fans and the smearing of Nascar fans is something I don't understand. It's taken assuming that was individual misconduct. In this case, there was not many. Many one there to be misconduct, but assuming there was individual misconduct. The plan of the media now is to blame everyone generally and make everyone pay for individual misconduct whether you're a cop killing George Floyd then all cops responsible, and if some knucklehead, and it would have been real stupid, actually to put a noose and garage number four, which did not happen, but they WANNA blame everybody so quickly. The media jumps on the side. Of those who want to smear those who don't have the same political belief, they've weaponized trump to be used against NASCAR. Fans and I'm watching this. The fake news story proves racism is our new religion. You got to believe and if you question the belief than something's wrong with you and I. Black Racism is a new religion. It can't be questioned or studied. It must be accepted. So, it said I never win trade at the same irrespective. and. We got Reena coming up some others. We have four lines open. Five, one, three, seven, four, nine, seven thousand pounds, seven hundred eighteen t after one o'clock today we've scheduled Marie Thompson suing the health director and the governor once again to open up industries in Ohio and later on a two o'clock is match. Good friend will be here. Governor Mike DeWine A to thirty five can coochie Nellie. Who's the Acting Secretary of Homeland Security about the monuments and things of that character, three lines open, five, one, three, seven, four, nine, seven, thousand Gimme your read on the fake news story about the news, and whether it says more about the media or about bubba Wallis by every indication bubba Wallace's a hell of a guy. That's what they say. He was caught up in this thing never saw blamed everybody in the world and turn out to be fake story and the media is still don't want to back away from it because it's part of the religion to believe. Let's continue with more twelve twenty six year reds hopefully starting in about. Exactly four weeks four weeks from today, Thursday. To start four weeks from today we'll see what happens next on news radio seven hundred Waldo. Is Ready for you. Cunningham the great American. Line becomes available, five, one, three, seven, four, nine, seven, thousand, in about twenty minutes, or so the vice president's going to land the in and around Lordstown Ohio. So we may have a representative of the Vice President with us about twenty minutes, or so after one o'clock Marie Thompson, who is suing the governor and state health director again to get things open two o'clock is. Match diamonds good friend Governor Mike DeWine about the results of his test a to thirty five. Ken Coach. Anneli Secretary of Homeland Security about what's happening to the monuments, but until then your calls. We have Rena James Tom Adam. Stephanie and thousands of others Rena on a cell phone, welcome to the Bill Cunningham show arena. Go ahead, okay well. I am not an asset fan. I said I usually call it Nasdaq I. don't even know it. I think one of the round track and cars is just foolish. Anyway I do care about America. And It seems to me like this is I just listened to it, and then it finally hit me. What is all this? I think it's just another chance to bring down American. ICONIC, institution You know most of us want the same thing Rina you can be a Liberal Democrat. You're going to be a Republican. You cannot care about politics. You'd be black, white female. WHATEVER THE HELL! We all want the same thing, but there's a five to ten percent of us that. Don't want America to succeed. They want to tear the place down. And that's the group going after Nascar, then wants success. They want failure I think so it just another thing and I then I even got to think about that bland whatever it was. That was flying the flag. You mean a bunch of rednecks got together and got the money to get that thing. Does anybody know who got that? You can find out, but frankly I don't care. I don't. Want to fly if you WANNA fly fly if you WANNA, play black lives, matter have added. If you want to say, trump is great. Do if you want to say, trump is lousy, do it? Too but I hope it wasn't just another can't cast. you know dispersion on a group? That didn't even do it. You WanNa have Rena is general responsibility for individual misconduct. Assuming certain things of you can never say that if a blocked mail commits a crime, all black males are responsible, but if you have a cop in Minneapolis committing a horrible crime. Then all cops responsible, and so there's a trigger mechanism that the leftist and the anarchist's are ready to spring in a moment's notice. When some event takes place anywhere in the world or in the country, they use as an excuse to break out play class, windows and loot, and they're just wait for some event to take place that is disgusting. The great majority of protesters are pretty good people, but that five or ten percent their anarchist and they wanNA. Destroy this country and thank you for your call. Let's go to James. Tomlin Adam thousands of others James on a cellphone James Go ahead. Yeah how are you great data being American yeah, it is. Bill this whole thing scares me the you know it's not just a matter of NASCAR, but if I was a enemy of the United States and I wanNA developed communism to the United States. I would I. I've tried to destroy destroy their economy which. Already done that with the virus. Then I would infiltrate. They get the educational institutions where I would talk to all the college kids, and all the University of people and brainwash them into thinking Whoa, what a horrible place says and we treat people bad and the full fathers, and the founding fathers and everybody what really really bad people in slave owners and get all these disparity and then. I would probably get somebody not necessarily black lives matter, but some somewhere like that and infiltrate people into their that would just create havoc and keep the habit going, and have these people doing smashing things up, and tearing the statues down and destroy in our history, and then maybe at also get on drugs and I bring sentinel and things like that to the United States to get into all the youth and get patent here. Hell Yeah you sound like Paul. Harvey if somebody wanted to destroy this country, go after the economy go after the city's go after the schools to indoctrinate the kids about and how awful America is and then at the end of the day wall. That's going on. We have the Russians and especially the communist Red Chinese. Her building more islands in the South Pacific extending their reach, so they want to destroy the economy destroyed public education, and then had the cities are upton violence that and and use racism and slavery to get done. Lucifer himself could have concocted a better better cocktail than this one. No now, one quick question on top of that they'll do. We actually have a revolution that started right now in the Senate, the wedge in there and the majority of us don't even realize that we've got a revolution started. Well. We have to look back for the next year or two to see what happens. If trump is re-elected, that'll be a springboard for more riots, demonstrations and protests if trump is not reelected in the empty vessel takes over Joe. Biden and the Nancy Pelosi and control all national legislation. Then we're in deeper trouble I of course. I'm a trump. I'm GonNa vote for trump, but wait to see what happens, but we have to look back in time maybe in three or Or four years I hope to conclude in radio in about three or four years from now all be done, and I'm going to look back and say twenty twenty was the time at which America turned internally that quiet lives matter that normal people take back their government whether a city council, or whether it's Washington or May look back on twenty twenty and say that was the beginning of the second American. Revolution and really James Either one is possible because we don't. Don't have an objective media that gives the American people facts upon which they can cast an informed ballot, and if more balloting by mail occurs, and makes it easier to commit massive fraud, and no one's gonNA investigate it because the Democrats will be in charge, and they've benefiting by it, and so if the city's continue to erupt in colleges, don't produce those thinking objectively, and the economy continues to waffle. This could be ugly on the other hand I've always said James. James that America is God's representative on Earth, and I think if there is a god in heaven with Shirley. There is that he must have some representative nation that represents his values, and so whenever the world's been in trouble for the last one hundred years, the world turn toward the United States of America, and so I hope there's divine intervention, and whatever has to happen does happen every night I say a prayer for my buddies. My friends that are hurting. Physically or emotionally and. For the last week or two I've put the united. States of America on my list of a country that is hurting right now. Imagine the world without the United States of America. Imagine imagine that Russia marching across Europe imagined communist Red China taking over all of Asia and South America Central American continue following into the abyss the fact America's been on top. Top for about ninety years doesn't mean we're going to be there forever. And as long as we have constitutional republican principles of freedom and justice for all that's the goal were were as long as we have. Those principles were in good shape, but bringing down the monuments says that America does not matter and trashing cities mean property rights do not matter and. If that's the future, my friend. We're in deep trouble. One quick bonding thing. You know the media. They've been infiltrated like crazy. They don't tell us the truth. And you know you said yesterday that Dewine is seventy four percent popularity. I don't know where these numbers come from. Don't believe that there is no way in God's. Green, 'cause he's got seventy four percent popularity. Oh I know a lot of people. And they said well we voted him in. He was great guy to start with, but he's gone from hero to zero, and I gase may have. Forty percent at the most activity most don't don't believe the numbers. The media comes where these numbers come from I. Don't know they'll. Chain with the presidency and the elections and everything else you cannot believe the numbers. You can't believe the media at some point I may do this. Maybe not today or tomorrow, maybe Monday on every day, because I was going to take some time off. I have like eight weeks vacation, I've taken none so at some point I'm GonNa take vacation, but at some point I'm going to open up the polls. Yes, or no on Mike DeWine. It's not now. And I? Liked it because i. hear the same thing you're reflecting. That's what I feel. That's what I hear. But when I talked to the governor I talked to those in Columbus, he tells me he's riding the crest of a wave and I'm thinking why wouldn't they? You know. Let's see what happens to me. It's not about getting elected or not elected. What one of the things that I firmly believe is something Roberto Clementi said. Before he died and that is. It is a wasted life, if I've had the opportunity to help others and failed to do so, and that's why Roberto Clementi went from. Puerto Rico to Nicaragua. Plane, let's take those folks who made and he died in a plane. Crashes tried to land, and so Mike Dewine believes that he's got an opportunity to help others as he sees it, and he's going to seize that opportunity whether in reality. That's what is needed this point I'm on shore, but that's what he believes in James. Keep calling and thank you now. That was a great call. Let's continue with more. We have Tom Adam and bill and We have a call and possibly from a woman, a man demerit. WHO's with the? Vice President. Pence who's landing in Ohio talk about Lordstown in more than about fifteen minutes. Don't WanNa miss this Marie Thompson. Of he's the group eighteen fifty one that is suing the governor and the health officials about opening up American businesses, and he's coming up a scheduled to be here at one. Oh, seven today PM, and then at two o'clock is match diamonds. Good friend Mike DeWine OB here at two thirty five Ken. Coochie Nellie. The Acting Homeland Security Secretary will be. Here is a good friend of Taryn, so he set that up Cancun in Virginia and I thank very much for that. Flying becomes available, five, one, three, seven, four, nine, seven, thousand, Bill Cunningham the great American live drummer. The Reds Matt tells me four weeks from today. We think on seven hundred WWL wwl. Cunningham, the great, American, Asian or the president and the VP pants have been actively involved in manufacturing jobs, trying to return as many as possible back to not estates states from China and elsewhere and of course Lordstown. In Eastern Ohio has been the site of jam plan for a long time. GM tried to shut it down. President intervened and sometime about now sometime later today it appears the vice president will be landing Air Force to in and around Lordstown to talk about his visit as Mandy Merit National Press Secretary for the Republican National, Committee also a native of Warren County Ohio and Mandy Merit welcome to the bill Cunningham show and Mandy. How are you? I'm doing well bill. How are you? I'm doing well normally. When I talked to a national character like you, you're from everywhere but Ohio. How'd You Make Your Way from Warren? County the Golden Lamb the warriors of Lebanon all the way to the RNC and Washington. Well as you well know all roads to DC to the White House lied through, Ohio, so I got started in Ohio, but then made my way to see, but always have a special place in my heart for Ohio, and so I know very well. Be What Mahoning County, how this is such a special day for then with reveal of the new endurance, all electric pickup truck and what Vice President Pence is therefore today. This is really a great day to talk about these strong economic restoration of the MAHONING. Valley, and how president trump continues to bring jobs back to this country and the great American economic comeback that we are seeing I not. Not only in this country, but even in the midst of the Krona virus of the pandemic that we see we're still jobs back, and that is what this is all about. Let's drill down a little bit What kind of vehicles emit? We'll be made now in Lordstown. You talk about electrical, which you tell me the future, but what specifically is going to be made at Lordstown now? It looks like it's going to be all electric pickup trust. It's nate called the endurance which I think speaks to the name of the Mahoning. Valley of what the workers there have endured. They have grits. Endurance I think that's a perfect name for the Mahoning valley there so it's GonNa. Be Exciting. It's a great day and it shows really the contrast of all about what president trump has has been doing me. We thought with the jobs report of this past month. Were Communists all over? We're predicting we going to be boozing. Millions of jobs, seven eight and a half million jobs than we actually gained two and a half million jobs and I think that. That shows the fundamentals of this economy are strong. The Great American comeback is on its way president trump built the greatest economy. This country has ever seen, and he's absolutely president. That will do it again. Joe Biden would only destroy this economy. His job taxing hikes would destroy the economy, and that's why we need four more years of president trump to continue our great kind of economic comeback menu merit jobs. Are we talking about in in and around Youngstown? So, it looks like it's a I believe. I don't know the exact number right now a hundred or so smaller, but say that it's going to be too. I believe thousands once really get going in the line. Start again now, and these are GM for These GM pickup trucks is talking about GM. I leave. So you know for the actual details? Hope that everybody can live stream and listen into the event once vice president pence is on the ground. It should be an exciting announcement. Really, it's been a team effort. By president trump by president pence governor to wind really nobody Jan, off the hook here one everyone's make sure. This plant continued running the Great People Lordstown by everyone was continuing to get those jobs, and not that plant did not sit idle. Men almost every political pundit I speak with I have new Gingrich Gingrich, coming on tomorrow and I have some others to pundits, punditry, who make a living now is simply opining, which is awfully important. I've opinions do, but they always tell me that why educated females are the swing vote and twenty twenty and I assume you're a white educated female from Warren County Levin. What is it a am? What is it about? Trump and pence as a as a white, educated female suburbanite, more or less you? You're at one point in your life. Why are you attracted to as opposed to the democratic sirens y? I think the economy is a huge message, but specifically for me I think is what another huge message that we're going to be seeing all across this country. It's also law and order, and this is another message that Vice President Pence will be also doing today. After his announcement here in Lordstown, he will be holding a message with law, enforcement and community leaders and event. They're around people and we're. We're seeing the loudest voices on the left so many places in Minneapolis and Seattle, and La New York are calling for a defunding of the police, and they're not supporting our men and women in uniform, and not just not with this country is about. We saw yesterday that Democrats blocked police reform from Senator Tim Scott and that is just outrageous. They're calling for reform, but not at the expense. Of Progress, because only if Republicans proposed that, so we saw last week. President trump issued an executive order encouraging law enforcement agencies to implement best practices of protecting the communities they serve, but also supporting that the law enforcement agencies. And making sure that are deported and have the the resources that they need to strengthen those relationships with the the communities that they serve, and so that is critically important. I think that law and order message is really going to be one that that brings us into November because many in that the far left media wants to think that there's this false choice between reporting needs, reforms and protesters, and and choosing between supporting the law and order, and and our men and. And Women in uniform, and that's not the case we can support both and make sure they're safe policing, but also say communities nation hating itself cannot survive. We have so many Americans aren't interested in change. Their instant interested in revolution this. November could be a choice between anarchy on one hand and civilisation on the other. But Mandy Merit we gotta run good luck to you. Thanks for calling the Bill Cunningham show and good luck to the vice president today good luck. Down Mandy Merit. Let's continue with more line becomes available, five, one, three, seven, four, nine, seven, thousand, Bill Cunningham newsradio seven hundred wwl demille. Now a few days ago, another lawsuit was filed by the eighteen fifty one set of constitutional law headed up by Marie Thompson. Serves as executive director of that August body, which is a charitable nonprofit situation Maurice Thompson Attorney welcome again to the Bill Cunningham show Marie, South Korea. Again Bill Let's talk about first of all for those listening around the Midwest and the nation kind of review, the two or three lawsuits filed so far that have been successful, and then we'll get into the one you filed about two days ago. Please go ahead. Yeah you bet so. We're on our fifth case here. Case Number One was a humble procedural process claiming Federal Court ran into a buzzsaw federal judge. There did not work at all. However, that opened the door for people to be interested in this issue, and finally rise to the occasion after we couldn't find a single plaintiff The next lawsuit was on behalf of thirty five gyms up in Lake County where? Where the court of common pleas they're finally in state. Court completely scrapped everything that dewine active been trying to do and then two weeks after that in Erie County the court again scraps everything that the wine act and have been trying to do saying they have no power to close businesses that this statute. The relying on is totally unconstitutional. Around that same time we had criminal charges thrown out against the only. Person Ever be charged with a crime for violating the statute which criminalizes disobedience with any order of the director of health at that time was acting so one of those last three cases. Then this week we filed a challenge to eliminate the daycare regulations that the wind an acting have passed This is our first attempts to contact regulations, but very strong case because you'll have general assembly has already determined. What size of group can be supervised? At daycares, group of groups of children that is and what the ratios are supposed to be. You know you need X. number of adults to watch over X. number of children. That's all set in statute, and you have to enact and. Just, ignoring the statute and making up their own legislation, and trying to overrule already passed legislation, so you had the executive branch of government, determining what the law should be your the executive branch of government interpreting the law. Then you had the executive branch of government. Individuals and punishing them for violation of the law when we have three branches of government. Bill, this is something that any sixth grader should know is improper and as you frame, it is correct it's even. Worse in that the wine enactment have created their own criminal code so. What kinds of constitutes a crime, and then they enforce those crimes all unilaterally on their own. Violation of the legislation passed by the General Assembly in this instance. Is there a legal way of getting to the same result by not doing what they did? Couldn't they have gone through the legislature? Make the arguments available. Have the hearings the house? The Senate passed a law giving the governor. The power determining the penalty should be describing what the parade but of. Of Behavior is which is what a normal criminal statute describes perimeter behavior after a lengthy process of hearings to determined specifically then the citizens are notified behavior village the law. Then the legislature also determines the penalty for that. Then the house passes it. The Senate passes it. The governor signs it into law. Then that's why wasn't there legal way of doing this? Yeah every single thing that the wine and act and have done up until this point could have been done through the Ohio General Assembly, and not only could have been done through the legislature, but the Ohio constitution only goes emergency powers to the legislature, so it was required to be done through the legislature, and the legislature could have done it on an expedited basis. Basis but it also could have done it on expedite expedited basis while holding some hearings to hear from business owners, example about the practical problems of trying to centrally plan their industries, for blackbox and the legislature may have come to more wise conclusions in the ones where currently dealing with so every day two o'clock. It's going to happen again in about forty five minutes. The Governor Amy Acton John Usta. She's now gone and he doesn't have the new acting second of director, so the governor and Lieutenant Governor they kind of come forward and say what laws they're going to pass laws. They're going to execute what procedures are legal and there was a way of doing this constitutionally. They just didn't choose to do it the right way. Rule of law by press conference and the media summarily announces the new rules as though they have the immediate force of law without any, since you're questioning whatsoever of the process or of the data, underlying, the process is all could have been handled in the legislature where I think that some of that data would be scrutinized and some of the policy choice would also be scrutinized. So we have an objection to that on the procedural grounds, but also it gets worse. Results were not saying. The legislature is a perfect place it certainly. No problems there as well, but induces checks and balances into the process that forbid this sort of arbitrary rule, and also forbids this idea of manufacturing regulations at eleven fifty nine pm. Today that are effective and carry criminal penalties ninety days in jail at twelve o one am tomorrow morning. Then then why does dewine have a seventy five percent approval rating? People love to be afraid. I think fear is a big part of this you know the the courage level is something that I watch closely in the fifteen years that I've litigated constitutional rights cases I can tell you that a lot of people are afraid and the courage. The courage meter is down in Ohio and it's been. Just, continuing to slightly move downward over the last fifteen years. It's hard to find clients want to stand up for their rights in court. I believe that the rhetoric and the missed portrayal of certain data has convinced some people that they should be afraid, and it's easier and easier to manipulate people into being afraid, and that's how you get the policy results. You want if you're a politician. Every October. If we're not scared enough, we'll pay some movie. Producers scare the crap out of even more. There's something innate to the human species. We WanNA BE FRIGHTENED WE WANNA, be scared. We want to be protected, so Marie Thompson. You've had difficulty getting clients to step forward describe what happened Terry three days ago when you file a new lawsuit about the daycare. Sure well I just want to add to that bill. I think the one of the primary problems we have in this state perhaps in this country. Is that when people have these fears, and they have these anxieties, instead of just saying look I've got some anxieties here. They may or may not be rational. I need to work through them. they instead go hyperbolic and insists upon government making a law that infringes upon of all of our freedoms, and that's where we object is to folks who, instead of treating their anxieties attempt manufacturer, the rings dieties into law, and our current case on Daycares in Warren County is one of those cases wearing anxieties manufactured into law that limits artificially the number of children that daycares can watch, and the problems at that creates of course are the parents can't find somebody to watch their children. They want to go back to work. Maybe they need the money, but the daycares can't take them. I have one client who could. Could have supervised two hundred children before these regulations, but now can only supervise sixty six children at his civility, and multiplied out by the daycares, and you see you have a massive shortage in childcare, vision and also, when you have restricted the supply something you drive up the cost, so the cost of childcare also has to go up in these situations, which makes it unaffordable for many and further hurts the budgets of many who've already been hurt by the policies of accidental. Why do these individuals hurt by the governor and by amy actions orders over the last three months to they have monetary damages. They could seek. It's possible we don't do. Money claims our job. At eighteen fifty one is to take a black magic marker and basically black out the law that needs to go away, and that's all that we do the The legal community has plenty of shysters looking for the dollars, and that's for them to follow up on after we had the law invalidated on constitutional grounds. In, the lawsuit filed in Warren County. When you've been quick getting tr and preliminary junctions is they're hearing date set soon on that. There is we move preliminary injunction today and we have at least a summary. Hearing up there up there in your case down there in mind tomorrow. and we hope for a quick ruling. The this is this regulation is a little bit unlike the closures. We've been challenging with the closures. We filed a lawsuit delaying. Get to look at it and we'll simply open the business in response to the lawsuit gear. I think he's he's batten down the hatches, and he wants to fight for these regulations over the long term, though it's important for us to get an injunction against them, and we hope to get that very quickly. As you're claiming course, it's true that you can change the law. Two, hundred, fifty, fifty, ninety, five, whatever it is in these day, care centers, but there has to be a rational basis, and asked to be constitutionally enacted through the legislature, and if they if they make the decision, the numbers got to be sixty five. Then your constitutional claims go out the window, but you can't have the executive branch of government doing legislative functions, and also doing judicial functions all at the same time. It doesn't work that way. Yea In this case bill, the legislature is expressly an statue. We're dealing with preschoolers. For example you're allowed to supervise up to twenty eight children in the same group. Mike Dewine in act revised that to nine, so we're talking about nineteen less children that can be supervised by these daycares for preschoolers numbers forty for those who are older than preschool age. We've gone from forty eight to nine. So this is just a massive crippling for parents and children, but also for these businesses they have fixed. Fixed costs they have mortgages. They have property taxes just like everybody else, and when you cut their revenue in a third, that's also a major problem and you're right. The legislature could revise those numbers if given the opportunity, but it's already set those numbers and stuff those numbers in the context of an unbelievable number of safety regulations that already governed daycares, including regulations about communicable diseases and spacing and things like that rational basis and Murray's Thompson. Has the governor responded when he's lost all of these cases in court? Has? What. What's he done? He what he's done. That's interesting is he? Is pulled the hook on attorney general. Dave IOS and hired his own lawyers to now defend these lawsuits, so there's infighting within the state government and the governor is no longer allowing himself and these regulations to be defended by the Ohio Attorney General's office any instead has hired a private law firm at five hundred. Hundred fifty dollars an hour paid for by the tax payers to defend these regulations is David Jost backed away and said I'm not defending this because doesn't David. IOS defend the law and the laws passed by the legislature. So David goes to what does not want to be in the position of defending the indefensible, so Yo said I'm not GonNa do it. You should ask him. I asked him that question. Well I'd be curious. Nobody's GonNa say because this is all happening in a in a black box so far either the attorney general is backing away from the issues or the governor backing away from him. One or the other, but we're not sure what I'm surprised. Mike DeWine is doing this because up to this point, he's kind of he's a law is an attorney general. He knows how to legally get this done. He keeps losing and court every time. The probability of losses piling up I think are very great, and that the for those listening that says well. This has to be done, and you're saying I'm saying that if it has to be done, it must be done the proper way, and your point is not to the substantive matter whether it's forty nine kids or One hundred eighty. Your point is is a process to determine that number and the governor's not following the law. That's right. It's absolutely what's happening here and the number probably shouldn't be where it is, and we could prove that the number shouldn't be where it is. If we had a legislative hearing, or if we even had administrative hearings, remember bill, one of the things about all these regulations is. There's no opportunity to appeal any of them. There's an opportunity to have an administrative appeal where you. You say hey, this number is too low for example. If your daycare provider that has a huge huge space in any of them, do the size of a gymnasium and you only have six kids in that entire space bat is absurd on its face, and you should have some sort of an exemption at that point, but there's no process to seek that, and that's why if we look. To you, keep going to court is because that is the only way to challenge these regulations, so he's not ignored the court orders. What he's done is simply comply with him by opening up industries, but in this case in Warren County this one's different. I think it will be. Unless unless back again which you know, that's a victory to be happy with that but it's time to start challenging these regulations on businesses because remember. The regulations are conditions of opening so they all trace back to the power to close. They said we have power close you at any time. Subject to our own will and caprice, and we're only GonNa let you operate. If you had by our rules that we just made up, so we need to challenge these rules that they just made up. Because the source of them is, they're. They're arbitrary power to close people. If they don't comply or to prosecute them even worse, you can't do this. It must be done the legal way by doing an illegally. It takes time and money in March twenty second. When this thing started, they could have gone through the legislative process and within two weeks. They offered to every two weeks. Come back to us and we'll review them. And then the legislature which creates law would have given it to the Governor to enforce the law, but the governor created the law enforce the law, then was the judicial system and imposing penalties, all of which is wrong. And there may have been an excuse on March twenty fourth bill, but it's been. It's been one hundred days almost at this point, so there's been plenty of time to do all of these things through the legislature the legislature during this past one hundred days past like a nine hundred page bill, so they have the ability to do this and. The governor hasn't even thought that process I have a note here from a business owner. This says. Why weren't these regulations challenged when they were first put into place? It's a great question. It goes back to courage. I put out a policy brief which I rarely do on all the reasons that these these regulations were unconstitutional all the way back in March and it took me forever to find the initial client, so we have a backlog for that reason I I quite case didn't happen until the end of April, and finally people started to step up and it takes time you know it. It can if the question was about the daycare regulations in particular well three weeks is pretty quick. Remember these things just imposed less than three weeks ago and that's lightning-quick in the real world. It seems like an eternity in this context but we had no idea it was coming. It struck these daycare operators. You know at midnight around I and you know. We got into court a little bit quicker than three weeks has. Yet forty daycares organized that quickly. These things take time. We could move faster. And you need a real party in interest. Marie Thompson you just can't step forward. And Sam Suing, union, an injured party, and the difficulty was for the first several weeks. That weren't parties coming forward willing to step out there. That's called courage. Marie. Thompson, we gotta go. What's your website for those listening around the nation? Ohio Constitution Dot Org. We take no money from clients. No money from government so folks are able to support us. That's how that's how we do this. Murray say Thomson from High School in North West Ohio. Thanks again for coming on the Bill Cunningham show. Thank you. The God bless America. Let's continue with more your reaction. Five, one, three, seven, four, nine, seven thousand Bill Cunningham seven hundred wwl meal. I could use mosquito. Joe Right now I got mosquito bites. Thousands on hold. Millions are listening. Let's go to Mary Andean Tom. Tom's been there for over an hour. Let's get to him then pat and many others plus. Match diamonds, good friend Mike, Dewine. We'll be hearing about twenty five minutes, and if time allows I'M GONNA put a call into to the Secretary of Homeland Security, Cancun Cinelli about two thirty five to forty. We'll see what happens. Let's continue. We never stop. We simply continue Tom on a cellphone. Thank you for your patients. Go ahead Sir first time long time. Thank you. Wanted to bring up a piece of history. That's never talked about. And I don't know how much it You know coincides with everything. That's going on, but. The first American slave owner was blocked man. Named Anthony Johnson. WHO OWNED WHITE SLAVES? And I I think that just something that I think. All Americans need to know that this is part of all of our history, and it's a bad part. No one is suggesting that somehow slavery's okay. African tribesmen sold their men, women and children to slavery for profit. Armies did not show up from Europe. and Africa happened the shift showed up. African tribes sold each other. They made money in the deal. It was awful. It was terrible, if began in the sixteen nineteen or so continued through today right now there's more slaves and the world today numerically ever before and their slave markets working right now. Continuing and Africa happens today. It doesn't make it okay. America's not unique America has fought this thing since its creation in seventeen, eighty, nine, one, hundred, thirty two. Hundred thirty two hundred thirty years ago and so we have fought it. We've done better with the issue than many others, but the radical left is not wanna hear that message. They want America to beat themselves or the whip on their back every day and I'm proud of my country with all of us flaws on proud of the United States of America. I'm proud. Take a break Oh. Let's go to Mary. Let's go to Mary. Dell and then D- And then rain Mary. Go ahead. You're on the bill. Cunningham show Mary go ahead. Hi. Really I don't agree with that. Seventy to eighty percent approval rating for divine unless there polling Democrat I mean this is ridiculous. I think we need to quit ignoring the elephant in the living room which is. Mike. The Weinstein ties to Marxism he's. Always talking about partners in health which he has joined with. We need to look a lot of articles. There's one out there called the far left organization behind Ohio contact tracing, and they go into detail about the founders Dr. Paul Farmer I got into researching this when I heard Jack Windsor know investigative journalists question the wine at the presser. He's unbelievable. Windsor is, and he's on this and I'd research tons of articles on this and that. Partners in health is funded by George Soros. Chelsea Clinton is on the board. Bill and Melinda Gates are pouring millions and millions into this partners in health, and he's connected to this in Haiti and it's working Africa. He defends it saying well. I don't agree with Paul Farmer but Paul. Farmer is a CO founder the other founders of Chinese by the name of Tim Jim Kim, who is head of the? The World Bank you tell me, Marxist isn't behind us, and also the wind is never trumper. Why is he not there greeding pets? He should be our governor and he should be out there with him he he didn't have a rally here in Ohio. This is all to ruin our economy to bring Ohio. Down Because Ohio is instrumental in the win of up. Trump at trump loses Ohio. He cannot win the presidency. It's over right, and and if we don't win, the presidency were done, and this is about Marxism. Black lives matters whatever it's called. It's about Marxism and wine is about Marxism and we need to expose this. We don't have hi. Mary. You just did thanks for your call. Let's continue as time allows D. and then pat. You're on the bill. Cunningham show de go ahead I. Could you talk man a long time to wait on you and your wife at Kenwood? Who Good good thank you. Dark chocolate cream pie, I did yes I. Did I still I still I like Cherry Pie when Doan made it, but I've got no cherry pies recently well. I'm so sorry to hear that, but I wanted to ask you. Do you know anything about NASCAR dominance what? I've read the Quad trains. It's been a while, but. He's predicted death and doom. It hasn't happened yet at some point. America will fall when we fall. It will not be because we're successfully invaded. It'll come from within. And, that's kind of what he said. He said. It's GONNA be interracial. We're going to kill each other. At the pay the rate, we're going I love my black brothers and sisters, but there are certain elements who want to keep us at each other's throats, separate by race by gender by sexual orientation and the party that claims the other part engages in racism should look at itself. The Democratic Party was formed as a racist party to keep slaves into south, and ever since then they haven't changed much from that attitude, but because they've always act in a racist fashion, they choose the Republicans of engaging in their behavior. Cable thing you know. And I'm an innocent person I am not racist and guess what my car was vandalized, big time and a protest. They came up from Montgomery road. They knocked out four cars in our parking lot. I live in a senior building and it was just devastating to me. Here in Sycamore, township or Kenwood. Silverton It was not good. A car was stolen street after street. There was windows busted out and innocent people like myself have to go through this because you're not all white people are bad. Effect, the great majority of all of us are great Americans. I'd say ninety five percent. There's a five percent element who wanted to destroy who are individuals that live a completely different philosophy of life, and the great majority of us went the same thing. There's at five percentile that wanted to destroy everything they touch. Let's continue now. Five, one, three, seven, four, nine, seven, thousand. Go to pat on a cellphone pat on his cell phone. Go ahead on. On the Bill Cunningham Show, PAT, go ahead well first of all. Thank you Mr. Cunningham you're a busy man. It's very hard to get through, but I'll get straight to the point You have a re Thomson on there and He seems like a good man. He seems like he wants to fight for the rights of workers. Well the reason I'm calling up because you have mentioned the wine which he's a friend of yours. Right the governor. Mike DeWine there's been a friend of mine for about thirty five years. Okay, and do you agree with the policies that he's doing with the shutdown? No. I don't either and that's why I'm calling bill cutting him. We need you the American people. Will you do a golf outing in support a small business? That's why I'm calling I one of my businesses shutdown. Kind of business. Are you in gift basket? Well? You know! The Governor Mike has two good intentions. He thinks on the side of the angels, but assuming he wants to do what he's doing. He has to do it. The legal way which is go through the legislature to pass the laws that enables him to do what he wants to do. He doesn't trust the Republicans in the House and the Senate to pass laws that he agrees with so. So he knows the legislature, and then he does his own law-making, and every time has gone to court. He's lost, and so so what does is. It's the damnedest thing I've seen in that. We do have a problem with covert nineteen. I. Know It, you know if you catch covert nineteen, you have a problem. If you've ever co morbidity, you got a problem, but the great majority. Majority of Ohi Winter Kentuckians that catch covert nineteen. Don't even know they have it, and that's one hell of a thing to have a fatal contagious disease. You don't know you got now for my personal life. Di I pay attention to what I do I. Stay Out of crowds. If I go a new store, my masters always in my in my chevy traverse. Oh my left and And the little pocket and I haven't with me. If some private business owner wants mini, wear a mask on more than happy to wear masks if I'm in public and I might get into a situation where people are within six feet up. Put My mask on every twice an hour I have alcohol right there that I put on my hands and I believe covert nineteen is real. and has to be dealt with. We have to live with this D for the next several months. It isn't a case of either or shutdown. Stay at home live like a mushroom living in the dark fed crap. I want to get out there and live my life and so I'm going to do that, but while doing it, I can do two things three things four things at the same time. Time which is be aware, be cognizant of being around Cova being around other human beings that have not been in contact with before, and then being careful, and also living your life and the arguments Imerese Thompson Goodman. I never met him, but He's a good man, because there's a way of doing things properly, even if the proper end is a good one and a way of doing things improperly. Governor is like the president or the mayor. He executes the law. The law makers the legislatures are city, council, or the Congress they make the law, and then when there's a conflict, the judiciary interprets the law is to what what the law means. I was with Justice Sharon Kennedy the other day. She's on their high supreme. Court and she made an impassioned plea about the separation of powers. that. You can't have judges being governors and lawmakers. And you can't have governors being lawmakers and judges, and you can't have the legislature being lawmaker being law enforcers. Three branches is a brilliant formulation and justice Sharon Kennedy, said our role as supreme. Court justices, an Ohio is not to create law to determine whether or not for example at Dhaka should be implemented or not, and maybe a good idea. If you're a broad, is a child that you're a citizen, but it's not up to a judge to do that. It is up to the legislature to say. Say What are the rules of immigration? So in no matter what it is if we follow the dictates of justice, Sharon, Kennedy, who says my role is, the judge is not to make. Law is not create law. My role is to say whether or not the actions of the legislature or others is in violation of the Ohio Constitution or the US Constitution. That's the role of a real judge. Many judges have opinions like I do. And so if a judge puts the robe on and goes on the bench. Many judges, many men and women say the law ought to be this way because it isn't. Going to change it to make it the way I want it to be. That's called chaos. That's. You can't have individuals deciding for themselves. I'm taking down statues. If the city Cincinnati wants to take down statues, or the state of Virginia wants to take down, Robert. Lee Statue in Richmond. That's law. Take it down. You can't have mobs putting ropes and chains on statues in pulling them over the cost tens of thousands of dollars and saying we're taking the law into our own hands. You can't ever city council meeting in which chaos reigns supreme I might be old school, but when I hear the F bomb or the M. F. Bomb in public broadcast it over cable to families. I don't like that. It's a lack of civility Alaska courtesy. Alaska, gentility, we need those attending these meetings, not act like knuckleheads and clowns and to be arrested and city council. We all have become our own broadcasting company because the twitter and facebook all of us now when the twitter world we're all in that kind of business and I'm saying right now. We have a social bond a social fabric that's being torn. Economically governmentally, racially the thing when Nascar began with Dentists Neil, a couple of hours ago, I thought something was suspicious from the get-go. And now it appears no. It is certain that that's so-called news was a rope with a loop at the end. To My right, there was a chord. With which hanks about six feet at the end is a loop, so you can grab hold of that and pulled the blinds up and down. And so if something doesn't exist, that confirms our view of the world. Let's create something I can complain about the outrage. Industry is well funded. So, let's continue to take short break. On the other side Mike Dewine. We'll be with you and I. You continue to Friends of mine. Do wrongful things. I still love them, I'll be with them and I will correct them, and then they can do what they wanNA. Do you know Mike Dewine will submit himself to the voters in twenty? Twenty twenty two. And at that point, we'll see what happens. Give the Guy Credit. He's doing what he thinks needs to be done now. He's doing it wrongfully, but he's doing what he thinks needs to be done. And Marie Thomson God bless him for doing what he's doing. The governor has a terrible record in court because he's not following the law and he's acting illegally, and it's unconstitutional other than that everything's great. So, let's continue. Lawn becomes available. Five, one, three, seven, four, nine, seven thousand pound, seven hundred eighteen t I. think tomorrow we're schedule. They have on Newt Gingrich at some point, we'll see what happens in more plus reds baseball three weeks from today twenty one days from now we may have reds baseball I'm sorry four weeks from today four from today, which is on or about July Twenty Third July twenty four something like that supposed to have reds baseball. Now, there's all kinds of rules and regulations. Fans can't come media. Largely Rob Butcher says media largely cannot come. We know dugout interviews nobody in the locker room. But whatever it is is the best of a bad situation. Let's continue one fifty four home of your reds. We think newsradio seven hundred w automobile. As you may know homeland is not real secure for all kinds of reasons and the. Acting Deputy Secretary Homeland Security is Ken Kuching Ali former Attorney General, the Great State, of Virginia and Secretary Kuching Eliot. Welcome again to the Bill Cunningham show, and and Ken. How are you? I'm good. Let's talk about a homeland. Security said this the off their briefly. Since you're the, we won't talk about Daca with the Supreme, court did about a week ago. Nature ones and all that stuff. What how? How Secure Is Homeland Security? You're the deputy secretary. are We secure in the homeland? We certainly are You know you're obviously seeing unrest around the country, but the only place that's going on are places where the local authorities letting it go on, and so people are getting what they vote for in their local community, and in some places, sadly that is violence and mayhem and destruction, and you literally have mayors like some Seattle calling it a summer of love like Woodstock. Something and but you also have a president and president trump in the areas of federal responsibility for instance here in Washington DC where I'm talking to you from he surged over eight hundred of our DHS officers from a whole slew of agencies to put down the violence in Washington to keep facilities and people safe here, and it was all done in cooperation with local authorities, and it worked look. There was a direct correlation to between WHO's willing to advance forceful and responsible police forces, and where the violence went down, and where it went up was where people were. Were pulling their police back Is there some sense that the mayor of Washington Merrill Bowser as completely s completely lost her way having and right now your city of Washington. We see the ropes around Andrew Jackson, who by the way in the good old days Jefferson Jackson? There were the two founders of the Democrat Party and no question, and largely she stood down Washington DC. Police stood down as his multimillion dollar artifact. The past was was almost toppled in front of the White House and I had a friend of mine called me this morning, and he said well. What the Hell is going on and he? He he reminded me of what happened. Sixty, seven, sixty, eight, sixty, nine. You're too young to recall, but at that point one hundred American cities burn. It was like a revolution going on, we came out of that. Do have a concern. This'll be a permanent feature of American life if trump loses reelection November the third. I certainly do if he loses was the example of law and order at the top then goes away so you know that has a big fact that doesn't mean every governor or locality will follow that lead. But the reality is you lose the support of the federal government and we've facilities everywhere. The Department of Homeland Security is the largest collection of law enforcement officers in America bigger than DOJ or anywhere else and so we're guarding courthouses. We're doing all these things are people are putting themselves on the line in fact last Friday? We buried. Officer Patrick Underwood who is the first person? I law enforcement officer killed after the George. Floyd, protests and riots began he was targeted and assassinated, and the FBI thankfully has caught that that culprit none the last the violence happened, and he's not gonNA. Come back and this has real consequences, but we're going to keep pushing forward meaning in terms of protecting the facilities that we're responsible for the people near us. and you heard the president in recent days. He's found another law that he can use to protect some of these statues that. are related to our history now with respect, Andrew Jackson those federal officials that was federal police that moved in and stop that that was pardon me and You know it wasn't a local police. Though I will say. The local police were engaged. In confronting some of these protesters in their own streets, they some of them are set up tents in the street and the Washington Police Department. remove them and needless to say that wasn't done without some acrimony from the protesters so Mariel. Browser is in a very odd position as the mayor of the federal capital of the. where she definitely sympathizes with some of what's going on the left, but she has a city to run, and that reality kicks in periodically, and and their police do their job but are they as aggressive as they would be if you were there. No, but they're also not abandoning city, so it's not like Seattle. It's not like some of these other crazy cities like Portland. Portland you're seeing, but it's still not a place where you get. the kind of protection everywhere that you and I would expect ten Kuch. Nellie, normally in the summertime. I have a couple. Grand Kids would go to Washington in the summertime likely not happening this summer because of the fears over covert nineteen. However, would you advise those of us who live in the Midwest? Get the kids and the and the SUV get him in the Chevy traverse and head out to the nation's capital in July or August to look at all the sites and have some fun. Walk around the monuments. Is this the time for Americans to visit America's capital? You know in one sense I want everybody to see what's going on. I want them to realize just what has been fought Ford established this country, and and that it isn't over as Reagan said the fight for freedom isn't over. It happens every generation, and we have to re fight the battles, and that's what we're in the middle of here and you know I talk about this stuff with my kids and in terms of what what some of the motivations for instance there are peaceful protesters out there. there. We talk about what their concerns are, but they're different from the people you and I've been talking about. The people who actually WANNA use violence just tear the system down. They don't want to make improvements to the things that aren't yet perfect. And of course we'll never be perfect, but we always aspire to it but for the others who want to be violent who WANNA. Tear down this country th those are people we need to be aware of and we need to fight every step of the way. We'll we'll talk about here in a moment, but the big question for me is civilization versus anarchy, and that quiet lives matter that is people that get up every day and go to work. They raised their children. They paid their bills. They take vacations. They go to Church or mosque or synagogue on Saturday Friday sunny whatever it might be, they pay their taxes. They play by the rules now. Those businesses have been obliterated in many urban areas because of the anarchists the. The looters and the miscreants, and this to me looks like a defining a time for choosing and which we must choose either civilization or anarchy, and you're uniquely position as the Deputy Director of Homeland Security during a time when the homeland, too many Americans are not secured, there was a poll that said fifteen percent of the American people said these are good times to be Americans more than eighty five percents this. This is not good in this climate. What is the? Is this a time for choosing Ken Kuching. Lane, which quiet lives I also often use the term black lives matter and that somehow the difficulties brought about by sixty years of education, educating large numbers of children have taught them. That family doesn't matter. Faith doesn't matter. Civilization doesn't matter. It is time for wilding. It is time to go into the streets and tear down if you're a small black. Black business owner in Atlanta or Cincinnati and you're one of the forty percent that the businesses are not coming back. You also may lose faith if you're a small business owner and Bethel Ohio, which is sixty miles from Cincinnati approximately, and you have black lives matter protesters making uncomfortable, little Bethel Ohio in Clermont county to me. It's a choice between anarchy and civilization. which way will Americans choose? Well and you know you talk about quiet lives mattering. May Not say much. They may not be in the protests. They may certainly aren't throwing rocks, but they come out in their voices. Get heard, and that's why we have elections. It's also why we have the president we have. You'll recall every poll out. There predicted. He was gonNA lose, and yet he won, and he won not in a close one. He got over three hundred electoral votes, so the quiet Americans is where is the repository for the wisdom of this country and John. Adams used to sight the quote. The old Chinese proverb, may you live in interesting times curse? It was a curse. And and he noted he wanted to absorb the craziness so as children didn't have to, and that's. That's the job this president has he's taken on himself, and it's one that those of us working to support him. Have as well is to to fight this battle to this cultural battle to keep peace whatever it may take to achieve it and to leave a better country than we found, and that's what he's working on doing. What the executive order yesterday was about. It's what. What his efforts to advance, law and order about to put down riots, not protests, but riots to protect our history and move America forward in a way where we have discussions about our shortcomings without the becoming violent and all while getting government, frankly out of the way of the other parts of our life to to get the economy going to return freedom to America now, lastly Ken coots Nellie acting. Deputy Director of Homeland Security I wish we would live in less interesting times, but. The Supreme Court about a week or so ago said in Dhaka that executive order of Obama. Which legalize legitimate is the those are brought here. When they were, children could stay. He himself said for years before you should the order. This is illegal. It's unconstitutional. Then bid it anyway and now a week ago, Conservatives Chief Justice John Roberts said that's okay that trump cannot take away. Executive orders of Obamacare wasn't done the right direction that does that the rule of law. No, it absolutely doesn't, and this isn't the first time achieve I wouldn't characterize by the way the chief justice as conservative. He was appointed by a Republican, but we have long seen Republican. Republican appointees to the Supreme Court do things like this, and it's why it's so important to have a president trump who picks good justices? Cavanaugh was good on this. The gorsuch was good on this and those are those are the president's two picks so far, and but to see the chief justice go the way he did, and the obamacare ruling and everything else is, it undermines the rule of law. He seems to think somehow he's preserving what I think he's really doing is just kind of coming out where he thinks political correctness demands instead of where the law demands and dissent. Justice Thomas said you cannot require a legal process. For something that is illegal to begin with. and. They majority written by the chief justice ignored the question of whether Daca was legal or illegal, they did say. Of course. We all agree the president trump can get rid of DACA. That's as far as they went and noting that it was illegal but they wouldn't. Either admit that what Justice Thomas said was true nor contested because they couldn't. As you noted President Obama himself said it wasn't legal over twenty times before he actually did it. And my source for that is Barack Hussein Obama himself. We got about thirty seconds. Lastly Susan Rice as you know the Homeland Security who was in charge of? National Security under Obama Susan Rice said about a month ago that she would not be surprised if Russians. And Chinese are funding the rebellions, the insurrection. Taking place in America can coach Anneli. You're in charge of homeland security. Is there any indication according to Susan Rice herself saying that the Chinese and foreign powers flooding into America, not because these insurrections any evidence to support Susan Rice's comment. So China and Iran. And Russia. In media, outlets both social media, sometimes where they try to hide that they're behind it, and sometimes overtly they do stoke the fires they they find the irritation point for America and they get on both sides of it, so you know the the Iranians for instance, will run social media that supports the rioters and protesters, and they'll use an inflamed language on. On the Internet to do that at the same time, they're using inflame language to oppose them. So what they're trying to drive is hate instability within our own country, and that's true of China as well, and it's true Russia as well, so it isn't so much that they're spending money here, but it is that they are trying to use their outlets to speak. In ways to drive the hate anger that's going on in the United States and to make it worse instead of making a better these thousands of protesters and rioters. They have to eat. They have to sleep. They have to get places. Someone's funding this whole operation. This isn't willing up. From the soul of America for injustice. All of us are against injustice. Somehow there's large numbers of millions of dollars going to tens of thousands of people in one hundred American cities to cause this and I'd love to. To find out at the end of the day. Who's funding it whether it's George? Soros Iranians Chinese Russian. Something is happening to bring down this country and we must respond on November the Third Cancun A.. You're a great American and hopefully in about a year from now when you're the Attorney General United States of America or the Sector Homeland Security, we can have another talking about a year saying what success we had in rooting out the evil and so many American cities and Ken Coochie once again. Thank you for coming on the. Bill Cunningham show. Thank you Ken my pleasure God. Bless you. Let's continue with more. Can you smell what he's cooking somehow day after day week after week month after month, large numbers of individuals I have us expenses, and someone is paying for them now. There's a chunk of this I had a call from a woman named Nancy yesterday. She pointed out quite artfully, then, probably the majority of those protesting a good motive they. They may be misguided, but they have a good motive, but there's a chunk who take over the movement in order to take on some anarchist position, and those are the ones that must be identified protests, no problem anarchy. We got major problems and we have to fight. This is great Americans. Let's continue with more your reaction. Five, one, three, seven, four, nine, seven, thousand, that was the guy in charge of homeland security on newsradio seven hundred WWL W.

Nascar Mike DeWine Ohio Bill Cunningham trump vice president Marie Thompson legislature NASCAR Lordstown Bubba Wallace Dennis Neil America Lebron James Warren County CNN representative Pence director Bubba