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"roberto clemente bridge" Discussed on Charlotte Readers Podcast

Charlotte Readers Podcast

14:09 min | 2 years ago

"roberto clemente bridge" Discussed on Charlotte Readers Podcast

"Not Really Santa Claus but he came through the shoes so we're going to transition now to to more rage one but you Barbara from you of Marty was but he's now a alcoholics anonymous sponsor so the question is we read through this who really needs the most help so this the leave it at that and start with the these experts you can read a few of these and then after that we're going to take our our break the lucky one I opened the door to Marty's trailer and I am seduced by the portrait of a nude young woman lying on her belly. Tigress stripes or tattooed from mostly shaved head down the neck and back to her Baris- a blond straight main flows from ribbon air in the center of her head down the spine all the way to her crack blood drips from Khloe Grace Marissa's forehead into her I in Kerry movie poster more surrealistic artwork covers every square inch of Marty's walls suggesting rich imaginary life with young fee male actresses I don't know how anyone can live like this I can only imagine the torturous traumas Marty suffered in three combat tours but that was long ago enough years have passed a dull the memories of the Vietnam War Marty said ample time to extricate himself from this desolate Ann Arbor trailer part but he still stuck here in the morning I'll rescue Marty from his monastery in scored him on Bass the ball Odyssey to see games in Cincinnati Pittsburgh Cleveland and Detroit it's been a long time but maybe some baseball therapy will help turn his life around the next morning cruising south through Ohio Down I seventy five towards Cincinnati I flashed back to nineteen sixty nine remember our induction physical after the head a stripped down to shorts and shoes a heard your voice in the back yelling Okay You maggots lineup briefs on the left boxers on the right I drove fruit of the loom second row jockey hanes and munching wear last oh Penney's and sears you had the whole room laughing yeah then some asshole shouted what about Commando Mardi that was me that was the last time I laugh for the next four years Marty stares out the window at a soybean field you're one lucky son of a bitch you could fall through the floor of an outhouse and find buried treasure as we near downtown Cincinnati we pass Mitchell Avenue where I used to exit on the way to my first job my boss despised piece Knicks that Fascist city fire me if I didn't get rid of my faded you gene McCarthy bumper sticker after work I'd pop a cold one s I watched the CBS evening news with Walter Cronkite. I'd be on second one Walter ended this broadcast with the body count of US killed in action a nightly reminder of my survivor shame as if I could ever Forget I'd curl up on the couch with my knees drawn to my chest and shiver my country had become estranged from Peace piece was nearly strangled by the king and Kennedy assassinations in nineteen sixty eight what was left to peace was beaten to death in the streets of Chicago Dog Oh at the Democratic convention in a last act of humiliation its corpse was left hanging on the steps of the Capitol where it could witness the Nixon inauguration I scraped off you gene blessed are the Peacemakers miass for they will be called traders in Pittsburgh the next morning we walked to the ballpark across the allegheny river on the Roberto Clemente Bridge after the game pass a weathered man seated near the bridge entrance holding a sign please help a homeless vet Mardi kneels next to him while I dodge oncoming pedestrian traffic streaming out of the Ballpark I move next to Marti hoping he'll take the hint that we should get going mm-hmm Mardi looks up at me have you got a few bucks stuff three ones into his palm MARDI glances at the money stands and faces me with his hand held out he gives me a look that says don't be such a cheap shit I give him a twenty he'll just drink it Mardi looks up from the bills what were you gonNa do with it Martin O'Neill's again and Tucks the money into the fellow shirt.

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"roberto clemente bridge" Discussed on KNST AM 790

KNST AM 790

12:24 min | 2 years ago

"roberto clemente bridge" Discussed on KNST AM 790

"To a doctor piano river. Could good. But the thing is that they have surveillance video. They see him at like eleven forty nine pm walking across this plaza in downtown, Pittsburgh, and he's fine. He's not staggering. He's not a straight line. When Shelly said when she picked him up. He wasn't drunk. He didn't seem inebriated anything. He wasn't slurring and terrified findings like texting or doing something with this phone just walking across and he seems fine. And then he just walks down. This alley I guess the last shot of they got was he kinda lead against the wall for a second. And then the cameras at the other end of the alley have water in them. So they couldn't catch him, and then either could've gone left and then gone right over the Roberto Clemente bridge to go home, but the cameras didn't capture him doing that you should finished. You know, the there's that other piece there too in your story where he told her that he had on the initial case when he called her scared said come pick me up disoriented where he was he said that he? Had already spoken to a police officer in the cockpit blown them off. Yeah. That's what he said. He said, I've tried to the cops the cops won't help me. And you know, I tried to ask all these questions. I did ask all these questions of the Pittsburgh cops the DA's office Emmys office, they were very rude. Very dismissive. And you've got our answer. You can keep asking questions all you want. But you've got our answer. They treat a reporter like that. I can imagine how badly they treat the families on March sixth two thousand seventeen forty days after Dakota James disappeared. Roughly nine weeks after the original call to his friend a woman walking her dog saw his body floating in the Ohio river ten miles from where he was last seen downtown. Right. Another thirty feet offshore. Which isn't that far ruled an accidental drowning guy. The guy. That's what they ruled it even though there's no his body had traveled ten miles down river, and there's a steel and concrete, Dan there that it would have had to go like over underneath there's no damage to the body whatsoever. And there's. It's the same type of thing. It didn't look like body wasn't a decomposed enough to have been in the water for that long. And the the mother also there. Oh, and the kicker is this is the horrifying, ticker. But so they the family never got just got an autopsy report they never they had to specifically request photographs from the autopsy they weren't allowed to see coda on the mother was forced to identify him by looking at a tattoo on his ankle. They wouldn't let her see her own son and because because wishes were to be cremated. That's what they had done with him. But so it took a year and a half. But she finally got and just this past August, she got photos from autopsy. And they took it to Sarah wack this same pathologists to occur. It looks like there's ligature marks around his neck. And then there's also there's broken blood vessels and half among his fingers, the top some of the things in both hands. Like he was reaching to get that ligature off. Neck, whatever it was. And so he thinks that the death could could've been could've been the cost. And and part of this story isn't just that the kids are are these young men typically again, the the the key consistent characteristics are young athletically built. They are not known for being or at least at one point one of the common characters. They were not known for being heavy drinkers. They were known for being regular perhaps. Patrons at a at a bar for parties. But they weren't these weren't people who are walking around drunk all day long. And they were they were high performers. They are overachievers they had a future. They were bright the seemed to be targeted almost on the basis of that. And that's what made me think I'm sure you've heard the whole phenomena. This rise of the beta thing, and they're sort of revenge of the beta males, this feeling that some people have and it it exists on the web at least in in word. I don't know if how whether anybody really. Turns it into this kind of tragic action. But that these are people that are that should be punished for being so popular because of the in cells, the involuntary celebrate men who are sitting in basements, envious of the popularity of the genetically gifted or whatever. And and so I wonder whether that could be a component in this this this dark beta male thing where they're taking revenge out on the on the popular and good looking right. I I think that's what I was saying earlier. Detectives thought the envy thing, you know, you're you're the phrasing is different way. But these these are the guys they they wish they were, you know, and they're not so right. Specifically, the in-cell thing. This is a this is a really interesting. There's it's much more formal and the associations of installs around the country. So where some people thought originally, this might be some satanic thing. You know, or some group that was traveling around in a van, and they were doing these initiations that maybe it's just a matter of these sort of thrill killings that are going on amongst amongst in cells that are taking out their frustrations on the popular. I know I'm just spinning. But that's how I I think even back then I think they thought that there were different cells, and they figured that it it was organized in somewhat structured, but because they they figured they had to have different groups in different cities. And that's why you know, one of the criticisms has been well, the writings not the same with a smile as well, it's different thousand different cities different. And as stocks at my story, I mean one in one one group of five go out and do something one night and another group of five might do it another. But the yeah, that's the only way they could figure two when they first start looking at this as to how there could be a couple different ones in different parts of the country at the same time because there has been that. I mean, there's been like I think eleven or thirteen in Boston too. And you know, you read because through this book and you look at the list of the ones in the mid west. It's. These are not guys who die like this. If you were you'd see it in every city in the country. Right. Oh, yeah. There was another drunk guy that just fell into the river when he went to I went out drinking, right? You know, you only see where where there's been like a cluster of these it's not and even statistically, they did a statistical analysis, and it doesn't hold up that you you. You would expect to see this everywhere if this were just a phenomenon of, you know, this is just this is what happened skies this age get drunk and Fall River, then you would expect to see that all over the country, and you're not you're just seeing it in clusters these specific city, we're talking with Nikki Egan, the author of the Daily Beast piece yesterday, we've linked up to our website at coast to coast AM dot com. Scroll down to tonight's guests, and you can read it there. And she has presented again making the case along with oxygen and various podcasts of continuing to bring attention to this very unusual story about young men and the reoccurrence perhaps most often the smiley face. But there are other symbols that seem to be spray painted on. Exactly where the body went into the river or where the body would be later found. Yeah. Go ahead. And they and they say, it's the first visible struck manmade structure, you can see from where the body was placed. Right. The way they tell narrowly they've been able to bring you know, and at one point to the there, there was a geographical anomaly that was being studied which was the main highway that they were a cluster these were all off of I seventy four I ninety four. That's right. Yeah. Within a certain number of miles on other side of I ninety four starting all the way in the twin cities and going going east and not surprisingly not going west at least at the time. But that they could track that to the upper midwest, and it was almost like coming up to an offramp, you could take a couple of miles on a state highway come back to I ninety four and be gone. And that was that was consistent is that no longer being discussed in the case. Well, what happened the way that came about was professor Gilbertson? The gang expert. Right. That was student went missing that his university. And so he went online and just was googling to get some information on him. And then found out it was like, oh my God. There's all these other MRI kid, you know, missing college students who have been later been found dead. So he there was a string of them. And so he assigned to of his grad student they needed to project to look at them. And see if there was patterns, and I ninety four west part of the pattern, but and then he kind of set it aside. And then meanwhile, you know, Kevin Gannon was working on it and ninety seven this was that was like that early two thousands. I think Kevin Gannon was the late nineties. He retired in two thousand one thousand two he's anyway, they all connected to thousand six basically, Kevin and Anthony Duarte his colleague NYPD. And then the professor because they had heard about the research 'cause Kevin sawn CNN in two thousand two that they're all these midwest s to. He had to others in New York, by the way within fourteen months. There was another guy that disappeared after a night out of Grand Central and the first guy Patrick McNeill. His body was found twelve miles downriver in Brooklyn and the harbor patrol told Kevin like there's no way to currents would carry you there and again, no damage to the body. There's all these ship traffic and all this anyway would have been really banged up. If it had been traveling there for like two or three months, well, guess what? There's other guy who disappears ten months later from Grand Central his body turns out right near where Patrick meal. Coincidence. Three three months later in New York City and was found in water. So then Kevin saw the same thing was happening in the mid west. But then he had cancer. He was fighting cancer for all four. And then he got back on it and connected with the doctor. So then they start to then they start traveling all the scenes, and that's when they develop more of the pattern. That's when they started looking. They saw they because he of course, Dr Gilbertson is a gang earn. So he's this graffiti, it's not just idiots. Yeah. There's a smiley face. But there's all these other symbols and there's room as his key to it. But there's twelve others to present to for them to count it. It's. I got I was friendly with an rule before her death and interviewing her she told me, and I am reminded of this during the conversation that that one of the characteristics of any victims of serial killers is that they're having an off night. She said, it could be a, you know, a lot of the victims of of Ted Bundy, she said it was consistent throughout the woman had cramps. She was she just had a big fight with her mom, she and her boyfriend were breaking up. There's some little thing that makes us more susceptible where we're disoriented a little bit from perhaps what our Spidey sense might tell us about danger. And it doesn't even have to involve alcohol for us to have a lowered sense of that. And I just keep thinking about those victims who were not drunk, but are left into that as well. Well, this is where we'll hold it their drugs. I mean that that these that these guys are putting the HP engineer drinks. And that because how else are they gonna overpower? These are like six foot tall one hundred eighty pound athletes. Right. They're not gonna go willingly with someone trying to grab them off the street. Let's many them. Probably not believing far even though they only.

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"roberto clemente bridge" Discussed on KTOK

KTOK

11:34 min | 2 years ago

"roberto clemente bridge" Discussed on KTOK

"Source for news. Newsradio one thousand KT. Okay. Nicole weisensee Egan is the author of a new book coming up about the Cosby case, which doesn't drop for a little while yet. Right. When's the actual release date April twenty third the book is called chasing? Cosby the downfall of America's dad, but we're talking about the article that came out yesterday in the Daily Beast, and Nikki was talking about that. She still follows this case since she was first introduced to it almost skeptically back in two thousand and eight and has since then Brad. Amongst in the league group of people who have been following the story and trying to make heads or tails out of it since then the update that you have on the Daily Beast is interesting because as you point out, there's a a a really well documented case of another close call it would seem from two thousand and sixteen can you tell us the story of Dakota James? Oh, right. It's a close call that threw me for a second. Yes. This was chilling. When I when I talked to this woman so about five weeks before Dakota James vanished when he has a close friend named Shelley and she had texted him if he was gonna come out and he calls her. It's like eleven. Eleven fifteen tonight. And he's like, Shelly, I'm hold. I don't know where I am help me. Help me come get me. Come get me. And she's like, oh my God. Of course. I'm you know, I'm on my way, where are you in? He said Pittsburgh. I think you said north side. And then she said, so she's like all right on my way. But then she had and they had enabled location services on the phone, which I didn't even know about. We use them all the time to keep track of our kids. There you go. I don't have kids. So so yes, she actually sees know on the opposite side of the city. And she I mean, meanwhile, she's getting all these text and she sent me screen shots of the tax. And it's like Shelley helped me I'm cold help me, and he was crying and sobbing by the way when he called her to. And so she finally finds him he's outside he's coming out of the Springhill suites. He told him to go into the hotel, and she's pulling up their star vehicle their parks the wrong way park like he's heading right toward it, and she hollers out his name, and he sees her. And then he comes over to her. And he tells her, you know, you tells you like I don't equally did not remember the last four hours of his night. The last thing he remembered he was at a work party was co workers they went out to a bar last thing I remember about seven fifteen and the rest of the nicer blank. And then he's wandering around the downstream to Pittsburgh. He didn't know where he was what had happened leave freezing cold, which is interesting. Because I've been reading a lot about TV tonight is one of the things I think the heat you up so much apparently. So then. Don't have a coat on or something like that the differential between the GP h what it does to your body temperature and the surrounding air freezing cold. And so then she said she wanted to take him to the hospital. She thought she's thinking was he drugged was. He did something really I called. She's thinking was an accident with eating up like he was hysterical crying. So, but he didn't want to go to the hospital and she took him home. And the next day. He just was sort of like, you know, we kind of brushed it off. And you know, she would have to but then he disappeared after similar co workers five week later, and that's the tragedy. If so then it really does feel like it's not just a crime of opportunity, but that somebody had targeted him or I mean, it's incredible coincidence that he would be taken at random words followed at random, but that somebody was watching for him and catching him at that kind of moment. Yeah. Either that was an attempt to that night, and it sailed and managed to get loose or it was just stopping him. Or or something? I don't know. I mean, but then he did he did vanish. And you know, if you watch those security, you know, and of course, the cop dole while he was drunk. He went to the river. Right. Because of course, that's what you do. You. Walk down stairs to adopt. Could. But the thing is that they have surveillance video. They see him at like eleven forty nine pm walking across this plaza in downtown, Pittsburgh, and he's fine. He's not staggering. He's not talking straight line. When Shelly said when she picked him up. He wasn't drunk. He didn't seem inebriated anything. He wasn't slurring terrified and find he's like texting or doing something with this phone just walking across and he seems fine. And then he just walks down. This alley I guess the last shot of them. They got was he kinda lead against the wall for a second. And then the cameras at the other end of alley had water in them. So they couldn't catch him. And then either could have gone left and gone right over the Roberto Clemente bridge to go home, but the cameras didn't capture him doing that you should Spanish, you know, the there's another piece there too in your story where he told her that he had on the initial case when he called her scared said come pick me up disoriented where he was he said that he. He had already spoken to a police officer in the cockpit blown them off. Yeah. That's what he said. He said, I've tried to have the cops the cops out me. And you know, I tried to ask all these questions. I did ask all these questions of the Pittsburgh cops the DA's office Emmys office, they were very rude. Very dismissive. And you've got our answer. You can keep asking questions all you want. But you've got our answer. They treat a reporter like that. I can imagine how badly they treat the families on March sixth two thousand seventeen forty days after Dakota James disappeared. Roughly nine weeks after the original call to his friend a woman walking her dog saw his body floating in the Ohio river ten miles from where he was last seen downtown. Right. Another thirty feet offshore which isn't that far ruled an accidental drowning. Yep. That's what they wrote it. Even though there's no his body had traveled ten miles down that river. And there's a steel and concrete Dan there that it would have had to go like over underneath there's no damage to the body whatsoever. And there's. It's the same type of thing. It didn't look like body wasn't a decompose enough to have been in the water for that long. And the the mother also the, oh, and the kicker is this is the horrifying, ticker. But so they the family never got just got an autopsy report they never they had to specifically request of photographs from the autopsy they weren't allowed to see coda on the mother was forced to identify him by looking at a tattoo on his ankle. They wouldn't let her see her own son, and because Dakota's wishes where to be cremated. That's what they had done with him. But so it took a year and a half. But she finally got and just this past August, she got photos from autopsy, and they took it to Sierra wack famed pathologist to card looks like there's ligature marks around his neck, and then there's also there's broken blood vessels and stuff amongst fingers the top some of the fingers on both hands. Like he was reaching to get that ligature next office. Neck, whatever it was. And so he thinks that it could been translation could have been the cost. And and and part of this story isn't just that the kids are are these young men typically again, the the the consistent characteristics are young athletically built. They are not known for being or at least at one point one of the common characters. They were not known for being heavy drinkers. They were known for being a regular perhaps. Patrons at a at a bar for parties. But they weren't these weren't people who are walking around drunk all day long. And they were they were high performers there overachievers they had a future. They were bright. They seem to be targeted almost on the basis of that. And that's what made me think I'm sure you've heard of the whole phenomena. This rise of the beta thing, and they're sort of the revenge of the beta males, this feeling that some people have and it it exists on the web at least in in word. I don't know how whether anybody really turns it into this kind of tragic action. But that that these are people that are that should be punished for being so popular because of the in cells, the involuntary, you know, celebrate men who are sitting in basements, envious of the popularity of the genetically gifted or whatever. And and so I. I wonder whether that could be a component in this this, you know, this dark beta male thing where they're taking revenge out on the on the popular and good looking right. I I think that's what I was saying earlier. Detectives thought envy thing, you know, you're you're put the phrasing is different way. But these these are the guys they they wish they were, you know, and they're not so. Specifically, the in-cell thing. This is a this is a really interesting thing. There's it's much more formal and the associations of in cells around the country. So where some people thought originally, this might be some satanic thing, you know, or some group that was traveling around in a van, and they were doing these initiations that maybe it's just a matter of these sort of thrill killings that are going on amongst amongst in cells that are taking out their frustrations on the popular. I know I'm just spinning. But that's how I even back. Then I think they thought that there were different cells, and they because they figured that if it was organized in somewhat structured, but because they they figured they had to have different groups in different cities. And that's why you know, one of the criticisms as well, the writings not the same with a smile. Well, it's different thousand different cities different people in it. And as stocks at my story, I mean one in one one group of five go out and do something one night and another group of five might do it. Another. But the yeah, that's the only way they could figure two when they first started looking at this. How there could be a couple different ones in different parts of the country at the same time because there has been that. I mean, there's been like I think eleven or thirteen in Boston too. And you know, you read because this book and you look at the list of the ones in the mid west. It's these are not guys who die like this. If you were you'd see it in every city in the country. Right. Oh, yeah. There was another drunk guy that just fell into the river when he went to I went out drinking. You know, you only see whether it's been like a cluster of these it's not and even statistically, they did a statistical analysis, and it doesn't hold up that you would expect to see this everywhere, if this were just a phenomenon of, you know, this is just this is what happened skies this age get drunk and fallen on the river, then you would expect to see that all of the country, and you're not you're just seeing in clusters in these specific city, we're talking with Nikki Egan, the author of the Daily Beast piece yesterday, we've lifted up to our website at coast to coast AM dot com. Scroll down to tonight's guests, and you can read it there..

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"roberto clemente bridge" Discussed on WTVN

WTVN

11:24 min | 2 years ago

"roberto clemente bridge" Discussed on WTVN

"Nicole weisensee Egan is the author of a new book coming up about the Cosby case, which doesn't drop for a little while yet. Right. When's the actual release date April twenty third the book is called chasing? Cosby the downfall of America's dad, but we're talking about the article that came out yesterday in the Daily Beast, and Nikki was talking about that. She still follows this case since she was first introduced to it almost skeptically back in two thousand and eight and has since then breath amongst in elite group of people who have been following the story in trying to make heads or tails out of it since then. The update that you have on the Daily Beast was interesting because as you point out, there's a a a really well documented case of another close call it would seem from two thousand and sixteen can you tell us the story of Dakota James? Oh, right. So it's a close call that threw me for a second. Yes. This was chilling. When I when I talked to this woman so about five weeks before Dakota James vanished when it was a close friend named Shelley. And she had texted him. See if he was gonna come out, and he calls her it's like eleven thirty seven fifteen tonight. And he's like, Shelly, I'm cold. I don't know where I am help me. Help me come get me. Come get me. And she's like, oh my God. Of course. I'm you know, I'm on my way, where are you? And he said, it's I I think he said northside tied. And then she said, so she's like all right on my way. But then she had an they had enabled location services on the phone, which I didn't even know about. We use them all the time to keep track of our kids out. There you go. Kids. So so so yes, she actually sees you know, on the opposite side of the city, and she I meanwhile, she's getting all these texts and she sent me screen shots of the tax. And it's like Shelley helped me I'm cold help me, and he was crying and sobbing by the way when he called her to. And so she finally finds him he's outside he's coming out of the Springhill suites. He told him to go into the hotel, and she's pulling up there's this stark vehicle their parks the wrong way Parkway, and he's heading right toward it, and she hollers out his name and he Caesar and then he comes over to her. And he tells her, you know, she's like it tells you like I don't equally he did not remember the last four hours of his night. The last thing he remembered he was at a work party was from co workers, they went out to a bar last thing. I remember it was about seven fifteen and the rest of the nicer blank. And then he's wandering around the down streets at Pittsburgh. He didn't know where he was what had happened is free. Cold, which is interesting because I've been reading a lot about GBH. And that is one of the things I think the heat you up so much apparently. So then. You don't have a code on or something like the the differential between the GP h what it does to your body temperature and the surrounding Arab freezing cold. And so then she said she wanted to take him to the hospital. She thought she's thinking was he drugged was. He did something really I call. She's thinking was was an accident was eaten up like he was hysterical crying. So, but he didn't want to go to the hospital and she took him home. And the next day. He just was sort of like, you know, we kind of brushed it off. And you know, she would have to, but then he disappeared after a similar, and I'd co workers five weeks later, and that's the tragedy. So then it really does feel like it's not just a crime of opportunity, but that somebody had targeted him or I mean, it's incredible coincidence that he would be taken at random words followed at random, but that somebody was watching for him and catching him at that kind of moment. Yeah. Either that was an attempt that night, and it sailed and managed to get loose or it was just stocking hammer or something I I don't know. I mean, but then he did he did vanish. And you know, if you watch those security, and of course, the cop while he was drunk. He went to the river. Right. Because of course, that's what you do. You. Walk down. Stairs to adopt a piano, you could. But the thing is that they have surveillance video. They see him like eleven forty nine pm walking across this plaza in downtown, Pittsburgh, and he's fine. He's not staggering. He's not walk in a straight line. When Shelly said when she picked him up. He wasn't drunk. He didn't seem inebriated anything. He wasn't slurring terrified. He's like texting or doing something with this phone just walking across and he seems fine. And then he just walks down. This alley I guess the last shot of them. They got was he gonna lead against the wall for a second. And then the cameras at the other end of the alley have water in them. So they couldn't catch him, and then either could've gone left and then gone right over the Roberto Clemente bridge to go home, but the cameras didn't capture him doing that you should finished. You know, the there's that other piece there too in your story where he told her that he had on the initial case when he called her scared said come pick me up disoriented where he was. He said that he had already spoken to a police officer in the cockpit blown them off. Yeah. That's what he said. He said, I've tried to have the cops the cops won't help me. And you know, I tried to ask all these questions. I did ask all these questions of the Pittsburgh cops the DA's office Emmys office, they were very rude. Very dismissive. And you've got an answer you can keep asking questions all you want. But you've got our answer. If they treat a reporter like that, I can imagine how badly they treat the families on March sixth two thousand seventeen forty days after Dakota James disappeared. Roughly nine weeks after the original call to his friend a woman walking dogs saw his body floating in the Ohio river ten miles from where he was last seen downtown. Right. Another thirty feet offshore which isn't that far ruled an accidental drowning. Yep. That's what they ruled it even though there's no if his body had traveled ten miles down that river, and there's a steel and concrete, Dan there that it would have had to go like over there's no damage to the body whatsoever. And there's. It's the same type of thing. It didn't look like body wasn't decomposed enough to have been in the water for that long. And the the mother also there. Oh, and the kicker is this is the horrifying, ticker. But so they the family never got. I just got an autopsy report they never they had to specifically request the photographs from the autopsy they weren't allowed to see Dakota on the mother was forced to identify him by looking at a tattoo on his ankle. They wouldn't let her see her own son, and because Dakota's wishes were to be cremated. That's what they had done with him. But so it took a year and a half. But she finally got and just this past August, she got photos from autopsy. And they took it to wack this. Same pathologists to. Looks like there's ligature marks around his neck. And then there's also there's broken blood vessels. It's tough amongst fingers the top some of the fingers on both hands. Like he was reaching to get that ligature neck off his neck, whatever it was. And so he thinks that that that could have been translation could have been the cost of an and and part of this story isn't just the the kids are are these young men typically again, the the the consistent characteristics are young S built. They are not known for being or at least at one point the one of the common characters they were not known for being heavy drinkers. They were known for being regular perhaps patrons at a at a bar for parties. But they weren't these weren't people are walking around drunk all day long. And they were they were high performers are overachievers. They had a future. They were bright the seemed to be targeted almost on the basis of that. And that's what made me think I'm sure you've heard the whole phenomena. This rise of the beta thing, and they're sort of the revenge of the beta males meant this a feeling that some people have and it on the web at least in in word. I don't know if it how whether anybody really. Turns it into this kind of tragic action. But that that these are people that are that should be punished for being so popular because of the in cells, the involuntary, you know, celebrate men who are sitting in basements, envious of the popularity of the genetically gifted or whatever. And and so I wonder whether that could be a component in this this this dark beta male thing where they're taking revenge out on the on the popular and good looking right. I I think that's what I was saying earlier. Detectives thought to envy thing, you know, you're you're raising is different way. But these these are the guys they they wish they were, you know, and they're not. So they right. Specifically the in cell thing. This is a this is a really interesting it's much more formal and the associations of in cells around the country. So where some people thought originally, this might be some satanic thing, you know, or some group that was traveling around in a van, and they were doing these initiations that maybe it's just a matter of these sort of thrill killings that are going on amongst amongst in cells that are taking out their frustrations on the popular. I know I'm just spinning. But that's how I think even back then I think they thought that there were different cells. And they yeah. Because they figured that. It was it was organized in somewhat structured, but because they they figured they had to have different groups in different cities. And that's why you know, one of the criticisms has been the writings not the same as well. It's different thousand different cities different people. And as stocks at my story, I mean one in one one group of five my go out and do something one night in another group of five might do it another. But the yeah, that's the only way they could figure to when they start looking at this as to how there could be a couple different ones in different parts of the country at the same time because there has been that. I mean, there's been like I think eleven or thirteen in Boston too. And you know, you read because we this book and you look at the list of the ones in the mid west. It's. These are not guys who die like this. If you were you'd see it in every city in the country. Right. Oh, yeah. There was another drunk guy that just fell into the river. When he went to. I went out drinking. You know, you only see where it's been like a cluster of it's not and even statistically, they did a statistical analysis, and it doesn't hold up that you you would expect to see this everywhere, if this were just a phenomenon of, you know, this is just this is what happened skies this age get drunk and Fall River than you would expect to see that all over the country. And you're not just seeing it in clusters in these specific city. We're talking with the Nikki Egan the author of the Daily Beast piece yesterday, we've lifted up to our website at coast to coast AM dot com. Scroll down to tonight's guests, and you can read it there..

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"Nicole weisensee Egan is the author of a new book coming up about the Cosby case, which doesn't drop for a little while yet right once the actual release date, April twenty third the book is called chasing. Cosby the downfall of America's dad, but we're talking about the article that came out yesterday in the Daily Beast, and Nikki was talking about that. She still follows this case since she was first introduced to it. Almost skeptically back in two thousand and eight and has since then brats amongst in the league group of people who have been following the story and trying to make heads or tails out of it since then. The update that you have on the Daily Beast was interesting because as you point out, there's a a really well documented case of another close call it would seem from two thousand and sixteen can you tell us the story of Dakota James? Oh, right. So we a close call that threw me for a second. Yes. So in this this was chilling. When I when I talked to this woman so about five weeks before Dakota James vanished when he has a close friend named Shelley. And she had texted him. See if he was gonna come out, and he calls her it's like eleven thirty seven fifty tonight. And he's like, Shelly, I'm cold. I don't know where I am help me. Help me come get me. Come get me. And she's like, oh my God. Of course. I'm you know, I'm on my way, where are you? And he said Berg, I think he said northside tied. And then she said, so she's like all right on my way. But then she had an they had enabled location services on the phone, which I didn't even know about because she leaves him all the time to keep track of our kids. There you go. I don't have kids. So. So so yes, she actually sees you know, on the opposite side of the city, and she I meanwhile, she's getting all these texts from him, and she sent me screen shots of the tax. And it's like Shelley helped me cold helped me, and he was crying and sobbing by the way when he called her to. And so she finally finds him he's outside he's coming out of the Springhill suites. She told him to go into into the hotel, and she's pulling up there's this dark vehicle their parks the wrong way Parkway, and he's heading right toward it, and she hollers out his name, and he sees her. And then he comes over to her. And he tells her, you know, she's like tells you he did not remember the last four hours of his night. The last thing he remembered he was at a work party was co workers they went out to a bar last thing I remember was about seven fifteen and the rest of the nicer blank. And then he's wondering around the down streets. Pittsburgh he didn't know where he was what had happened. He was freezing cold. Which is interesting because I've been reading a lot about GBH. And that is one of the things I think the heat you up so much apparently. So then. Don't have a code honor something like the the differential between the GP h what it does to your body temperature and the surrounding air freezing cold. And so then she said she wanted to take him to the hospital. She is she's thinking was he drugged was. He did something when I called. She's thinking was an accident with eaten up like he was hysterical. So, but he didn't want to go to the hospital and she took him home. And the next day. He just was sort of like, a, you know, we kind of brushed it off. And you know, she would have to but then he disappeared after a similar co workers five week later. Yeah. And that's the tragedy. So then it really does feel like it's not just a crime of opportunity, but that somebody had targeted him or I mean, it's incredible coincidence that he would be taken at random words followed at random, but that somebody was watching for him and catching him at that kind of moment. Yeah. Either that was an attempt that night, and it sailed and managed to get loose or it was just stocking hammer or something I I don't know. I mean, but then he did eat advantage. And you know, if you watch those security, you know, and of course, the cop while he was drunk. You went to the river. Right. Because of course, that's what you do. You walk down stairs to Dr. Good. But the thing is that they have surveillance video. They see him at like eleven forty nine pm walking across this plaza in downtown, Pittsburgh, and he's fine. He's not staggering. He's not a straight line. When Shelly said when she picked him up. He wasn't drunk. He didn't seem inebriated anything. He wasn't slurring terrified. He's like texting or doing something with this phone just walking across and he seems fine. And then he just walks down. This alley. I guess the last shot then they got was he kind of lead against the wall for a second. And then the cameras at the other end of Allie have water in them. So they couldn't catch him, and then either could've gone left and then gone right over the Roberto Clemente bridge to go home, but the cameras didn't capture him doing that you should finished. You know, the there's that other piece there too. In your story, where he told her that he had on the initial case when he called her scared said come pick me up disoriented where he was he said that he had already spoken to a police officer in the cop blown them off. Yeah. That's what he said. He said, I've tried to have the cops the cops out me. And you know, I tried to ask all these questions. I did ask all these questions of the Pittsburgh cops the DA's office Emmys office, they were very rude. Very dismissive. And you've got our answer. You can keep asking questions all you want. But you've got our answer. They treat a reporter like that. I can imagine how badly they treat the families on March sixth two thousand seventeen forty days after Dakota James disappeared. Roughly what nine weeks after the original call to his friend a woman walking her dog saw his body floating in the Ohio river ten miles from where he was last seen downtown. Right. Another thirty feet offshore which isn't that far ruled an accidental drowning. That's what they ruled it. Even though there's no of his body had traveled ten miles down that river, and there's a steel and concrete, Dan there that it would have had to go like over underneath there's no damage to the body whatsoever. And there's. It's the same type of thing. It didn't look what body wasn't decompose enough to have been in the water for that long. And the the mother also there and the kicker is this is the horrifying, ticker. But so they the family never got. I just got an autopsy report they never they had to specifically request photographs from the autopsy they weren't allowed to see Dakota on the mother was forced to identify him by looking at a tattoo on his ankle. They wouldn't let her see her own son, and because Dakota's wishes where to be cremated. That's what they had done with him. But it took a year and a half. But she finally got in just this past August, she got photos from autopsy. And they took it to Sarah wack this. Same ethologist? Concurred looks like there's ligature marks around his neck. And then there's also there's broken blood vessels fingers, the top some of the things in both hands. Like he was reaching to get that ligature next off his neck, whatever it was. And so he thinks that it could have been strangulation could have been the cost. And and part of this story isn't just that the kids are are these young men typically again, the the the consistent characteristics are young athletically built. They are not known for being or at least at one point the one of the common characters they were not known for being heavy drinkers. They were known for being regular perhaps patrons at a at a bar for parties. But they weren't these people who are walking around drunk all day long. And they were they were high performers. They are overachievers. They had a future. They were bright the seemed to be targeted almost on the basis of that. And that's what made me think I'm sure you've heard of the whole phenomena. This rise of the beta thing, and they're sort of the revenge of the beta males meant this feeling that some people have and it on the web at least in in word. I don't know if how whether anybody really. Turns it into this kind of tragic action. But that that these are people that are that should be punished for being so popular because of the in cells, the involuntary celebrate men who are sitting in basements, envious of the popularity of the genetically gifted or whatever. And and so I wonder whether that could be a component in this this this dark beta male thing where they're taking revenge out on the on the popular and good looking right. I I think that's what I was saying earlier. Detectives thought the envy thing, you know, you're you're the phrasing is different way. But these these are the guys they they wish they were, you know, and they're not so. Right. Specifically the thing. This is a this is a really interesting, there's it's much more formal and the associations of in cells around the country. So where some people thought originally, this might be some satanic thing, you know, or some group that was traveling around in a van, and they were doing these initiations that maybe it's just a matter of these sort of thrill killings that are going on amongst amongst in cells that are taking out their frustrations on the popular. I know I'm just spinning. But that's how I I even back. Then I think they thought that there were different cells, and they because they figured that if organized in somewhat structured, but because they figured they had to have different groups in different cities. And that's why you know, one of the criticisms has been well, the writings not the same with a smile. Well, it's different thousand different cities different people and stocks at in my story. I mean, one in one one group of five Michael out and do something one night and another group of five might do it another. But the yeah, that's the only way they could figure two when they first start looking at this as to how there could be a couple different ones in different parts of the country at the same time because there has been that. I mean, there's been like I think eleven or thirteen in Boston too. And you know, you reap because through this book and you look at the list of the ones in the mid west. It's visa not guys who die like this though. If you worry you'd see it in every city in the country, right? Oh, yeah. There was another drunk guy. It just fell into the river. When he went to I went out drinking. You know, you only see whether it's been like a cluster of these it's not and even statistically, they did a statistical analysis, and it doesn't hold up that you expect to see this everywhere, if this were just a phenomenon of, you know, this is just this is what happened skies this age get drunk and fallen team then you would expect to see that all of the country, and you're not you're just seeing it in clusters in these specific city, we're talking with Nikki Egan, the author of the Daily Beast piece yesterday, we've linked up to our website at coast to coast AM dot com. Scroll down to tonight's guests, and you can read it there..

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07:10 min | 2 years ago

"roberto clemente bridge" Discussed on KLIF 570 AM

"Stairs to Dr you could. But the thing is that they have surveillance video. They see him at like eleven forty nine pm walking across this plaza in downtown, Pittsburgh, and he's fine. He's not staggering. He's not a straight line. When Shelly said when she picked him up. He wasn't drunk. He didn't seem inebriated anything. He wasn't slurring and terrified like texting or doing something with this phone just walking across and he seems fine. And then he just walks down. This alley I guess the last shot of they got was he kinda lead against the wall for a second. And then the cameras at the other end of the alley had water in them. So they couldn't catch him, and then either could have gone left and then gone right over the Roberto Clemente bridge to go home, but the cameras didn't capture him doing that you should finish. The there's another piece there too in your story where he told her that he had on the initial case when he called her scared said come pick me up disoriented where he was. He said that he had already spoken to a police officer in the cockpit blown them off. Yeah. That's what he said. He said, I've tried to have the cops the cops won't help me. And you know, I tried to ask all these questions. I did ask all these questions of the Pittsburgh cops the DA's office Emmys office, they were very rude. Very dismissive. And you've got an answer you can keep asking questions all you want. But you've got our answer. They treat a reporter like that. I can imagine how fabric they treat the families on March sixth two thousand seventeen forty days after Dakota James disappeared. Roughly nine weeks after the original call to his friend a woman walking her dog saw his body floating in the Ohio river ten miles from where he was last seen downtown. Other thirty feet offshore which isn't that far ruled an accidental drowning. That's what they wrote it. Even though there's no body had traveled ten miles down that river. And there's a steel and concrete Dan there that it would have had to go like over underneath there's no damage to the body whatsoever. And there's. It's the same type of thing. It didn't look like body wasn't a decomposed enough to have been in the water for that long. And the the mother also, oh, and the kicker is this is the horrifying, ticker. But so they the family never got just got an autopsy report they never they had to specifically request photographs from the autopsy they weren't allowed to see Dakota on the mother was forced to identify him by looking at a tattoo on his ankle. They wouldn't let her see her own son, and because Dakota's wishes where to be cremated. That's what they had done with him. But that we took a year and a half. But she finally got in just this past August, she got photos from autopsy. And they took it to Sarah wack this. Same pathologist to. Looks like there's ligature marks around his neck. And then there's also there's broken blood vessels and stuff amongst fingers the top some of the things in both hands. Like he was reaching to get that ligature net off his neck, whatever it was. And so he thinks that they could have been relation could have been the cost. And and part of this story isn't just the kids are are these young men typically again, the the the consistent characteristics are young athletically built. They are not known for being or at least at one point the one of the common characters they were not known for being heavy drinkers. They were known for being regular perhaps. Patrons at a at a bar for parties. But they weren't these weren't people who are walking around drunk all day long. And they were they were high performers. They are overachievers they had a future. They were bright. They seem to be targeted almost on the basis of that. And that's what made me think I'm sure you've heard of the whole phenomena. This rise of the beta thing, and they're sort of the revenge of the beta males, this feeling that some people have and it it exists on the web at least in in word. I don't know how whether anybody really. Turns it into this kind of tragic action. But that that these are people that are that should be punished for being so popular because of the in cells, the involuntary celebrate men who are sitting in basements, envious of the popularity of the genetically gifted or whatever. And and so I wonder whether that could be a component in this this this dark beta male thing where they're taking revenge out on the on the popular and good looking right. I I think that's what I was saying earlier. Detectives thought envy thing, you know, you're you're the phrasing a different way. But these these guys they they wish they were, you know, and they're not so right. All right. I'm specifically the insulting. This is. This is a really interesting. There's it's much more formal and the associations of installs around the country. So where some people thought originally, this might be some satanic thing, you know, or some group that was traveling around in a van, and they were doing these initiations that maybe it's just a matter of these sort of thrill killings that are going on amongst amongst in cells that are taking out their frustrations on the popular. I know I'm just spinning. But that's how I even back. Then I think they thought that there were different cells, and they because they figured that. It was it was organized in somewhat structured, but because they they figured they had to have different groups in different cities. And that's why you know, one of the criticisms has been well, the writings not the same with the well, it's different thousand different cities different stocks at my story. I mean, one in one one group of five out and do something one night and another group of five might do it another. But the yeah, that's the only way they could figure two when they first start looking at this as to how there could be a couple different ones in different parts of the country at the same time because there has been that. I mean, there's been like I think eleven or thirteen in Boston too. And you know, you read because this book, and you and you look at the list of the ones in the mid west. It's these are not guys who die like this. If you were you'd see it in every city in the country. Right. Oh, yeah. There's another drunk guy. It just fell into the river. When he went out drinking. You know, you only see whether it's been like a cluster of these it's not and even statistically, they did a statistical analysis, and it doesn't hold up that you you would expect to see this everywhere if this were just a phenomenon of you know, this is just this is what happened guys that age get drunk and fallen. River, and you would expect to see that all of the country, and you're not you're just seeing it in clusters any specific city. We're talking with Nikki Egan, the author of the Daily Beast piece yesterday, we've lifted up to our website at coast to.

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03:13 min | 2 years ago

"roberto clemente bridge" Discussed on KTOK

"To adopt. But the thing is that they have surveillance video. They see him at like eleven forty nine pm walking across this plaza in downtown, Pittsburgh, and he's fine. He's not staggering. He's not talking to straight line. When Shelly said when she picked him up. He wasn't drunk. He didn't seem abra gated anything. He wasn't slurring and terrified findings like texting or doing something with this phone just walking across and he seems fine. And then he just walks down. This alley I guess the last shot, then they got was he gonna lead against the Wofford second. And then the cameras at the other end of the alley have water in them. They couldn't catch him, and then either could've gone left and then gone right over the Roberto Clemente bridge to go home, but the cameras didn't capture him doing that you should finish. You know, the there's that other piece there too. In your story, where he told her that he had on the initial case when he called her scared said come pick me up disoriented where he was he said that he had already spoken to a police officer in the cockpit blown them off. Yeah. That's what he said. He said, I've tried to have the cops the cops won't help me. And you know, I tried all these questions. I did ask all these questions of the Pittsburgh cops the DA's office Emmys office, they were very rude. Very dismissive. And you've got our answer. You can keep asking questions all you want. But you've got our answer treat a reporter like that. I can imagine how badly they treat the families on March six two thousand seventeen forty days after Dakota James disappeared. Roughly what nine weeks after the original call to his friend a woman walking her dog saw his body floating in the Ohio river ten miles from where he was last seen downtown. Right. Another thirty feet offshore. Which isn't that far ruled an accidental drowning the guy that's what they ruled it, even though there's no his body had traveled ten miles down that river, and there's a steel and concrete, Dan there that it would have had to go like over underneath there's no damage to the body whatsoever. And there's. It's the same type of thing. It didn't look like body wasn't a decomposed enough to have been in the water for that long. And the the mother also there. Oh, and the kicker is this is the horrifying, ticker. But so they the family never got just got an autopsy report they never they had to specifically request the photographs from the autopsy they weren't allowed to see Dakota on the mother was forced to identify him by looking at a tattoo on his ankle. They wouldn't let her see her own son and because Dakota's wish to be cremated. That's what they had done with him. But that we took a year and a half. But she finally got and just this past August, she got photos from autopsy. And they took it to Sarah wack this same pathologist to card looks like there's ligature marks around his neck. And then there's also there's broken blood vessels. It's tough amongst fingers the top some of the fingers on both hands. Like he was reaching to get that ligature neck often. Neck, whatever it was. And so he thinks that the.

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03:08 min | 2 years ago

"roberto clemente bridge" Discussed on KOA 850 AM

"To adopt could. Could. But the thing is that they have surveillance video. They see him at like eleven forty nine pm walking across this plaza in downtown, Pittsburgh, and he's fine. He's not staggering. He's not talking a straight line. When Shelly said when she picked him up. He wasn't drunk. He didn't seem inebriated anything. He wasn't slurring and terrified like texting or doing something with this phone just walking across and he seems fine. And then he just walks down. This alley I guess the last shot, and then they got was he kinda lead against the wall for a second. And then the cameras at the other end of the alley had water in them. So they couldn't catch him, and then either could've gone left and then gone right over the Roberto Clemente bridge to go home, but not the cameras didn't capture him doing that. You know, the there's another piece there too. In your story, where he told her that he had on the initial case when he called her scared said come pick me up disoriented where he was he said that he had already spoken to a police officer in the cockpit blown them off. Yeah. That's what he said. He said, I've tried to have the cops the cops will help me. And you know, I tried to ask all these questions. I did ask all these questions of the Pittsburgh cops the DA's office Emmys office, they were very rude. Very dismissive. And you've got our answer. You can keep asking questions all you want. But you've got our answer. They treat a reporter like that. I can imagine how badly they treat the families on March sixth two thousand seventeen forty days after Dakota James disappeared. Roughly nine weeks after the original call to his friend a woman walking dogs saw his body floating in the Ohio river ten miles from where he was last seen downtown. Another thirty feet offshore which isn't that far ruled an accidental drowning. Yep. That's what they ruled it. Even though there's no body had traveled ten miles down that river, and there's a steel and concrete, and they're that it would have had to go like over underneath there's no damage to the body whatsoever. And there's. It's the same type of thing. It didn't look what body wasn't a decomposed enough to have been in the water for that long. And the the mother also there all and the kicker is this is the horrifying, ticker. But so they the family never got. I just got an autopsy report they never had to specifically request the photographs from the autopsy they weren't allowed to see Dakota on the mother was forced to identify him by looking at a tattoo on his ankle. They wouldn't let her see her own son and because because wishes where to be cremated. That's what they had done with him. But it took a year and a half. But she finally got and just this past August, she got photos from autopsy, and they took it to Cyril wack this same pathologists to concurred looks like there's ligature marks around his neck. And then there's also there's broken blood vessels a moment fingers, the tops of some of the fingers on both hands. Like he was reaching to get that ligature.

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NewsRadio KFBK

02:11 min | 2 years ago

"roberto clemente bridge" Discussed on NewsRadio KFBK

"The thing is that they have Valance video. They see him at like eleven forty nine pm walking across this plaza in downtown, Pittsburgh, and he's fine. He's not staggering. He's not a straight line. When Shelly said when she picked him up. He wasn't drunk. He didn't seem a neighbor gated anything. He wasn't slurring terrified findings like texting or doing something with this phone just walking across and he seems fine. And then he just walks down. This alley I guess the last shot of them. They got was he kinda lead against the wall for second. And then the cameras at the other end of the alley have water in them. So they couldn't catch him, and then either could've gone left and then gone right over the Roberto Clemente bridge to go home, but the cameras didn't capture him doing that you finished. You know, the there's other piece there too. In your story, where he told her that he had on the initial case when he called her scared said come pick me up disoriented where he was he said that he had already spoken to a police officer in the cockpit blown them off. Yeah. That's what he said. He said, I've tried to have the cops the cops will help me. And you know, I tried all these questions. I did ask all these questions of the Pittsburgh cops the DA's office Emmys office, they were very rude. Very dismissive. And you've got our answer you can keep asking questions all you want. But you've got our answer if they treat a reporter like that. I can imagine how badly they treat the families on March sixth two thousand seventeen forty days after Dakota James disappeared. Roughly nine weeks after the original call to his friend a woman walking dogs saw his body floating in the Ohio river ten miles from where he was last seen downtown. Another thirty feet offshore which isn't that far ruled an accidental drowning. The guy. That's what they ruled it even though there's no if his body had traveled ten miles down river, and there's a steel and concrete, Dan there that it would have had to go like over underneath there's no damage to the body whatsoever. And there's. It's the same type of thing. It didn't look what body wasn't a decomposed.

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"roberto clemente bridge" Discussed on KOA 850 AM

KOA 850 AM

11:13 min | 2 years ago

"roberto clemente bridge" Discussed on KOA 850 AM

"Thing is that they have surveillance video. They see him at like eleven forty nine pm walking across this plaza in downtown, Pittsburgh, and he's fine. He's not staggering. He's not a straight line. When Shelly said when she picked him up. He wasn't drunk. He didn't seem inebriated anything swearing terrified and find he's like texting or doing something with this phone just walking across and he seems fine. And then he just walks down. This alley I guess the last shot of them. They got was he kinda lead against the wall for second. And then the cameras at the other end of the alley had water in them. So they couldn't catch him, and then either could've gone left and then gone right over the Roberto Clemente bridge to go home, but the cameras didn't capture him doing that. You just finished. You know, the there's that other piece there too. In your story, where he told her that he had on the initial case when he called her scared said come pick me up disoriented where he was he said that he had already spoken to a police officer in the cockpit blowing him off. Yeah. That's what he said. He said, I've tried to have the cops the cops won't help me. And you know, I tried to ask all these questions. I did ask all these questions of the Pittsburgh cops the DA's office Emmys office, they were very rude. Very dismissive. And you've got an answer you can keep asking questions all you want. But you've got our answer if they treat a reporter like that. I can imagine how badly they treat the families on March sixth two thousand seventeen forty days after Dakota James disappeared. Roughly nine weeks after the original call to his friend a woman walking her dog saw his body floating in the Ohio river ten miles from where he was last seen downtown. Right. Another thirty feet offshore which isn't that far ruled an accidental drowning. Yep. That's what they wrote. It. Even though there's no body had traveled ten miles down that river, and there's a steel and concrete, and there that it would have had to go like over underneath there's no damage to the body whatsoever. And there's. It's the same type of thing. It didn't look what body wasn't a decomposed enough to have been in the water for that long. And the the mother also they're all and the kicker is this is the horrifying, ticker. But so they the family never got. I just got an autopsy report they never had to specifically request of photographs from the autopsy they weren't allowed to see coda on the mother was forced to identify him by looking at a tattoo on his ankle. They wouldn't let her see her own son, and because Dakota's wishes were to be cremated. That's what they had done with him. But so it took a year and a half. But she finally got and just this past August, she got photos from autopsy, and they took it to Sarah, lack this same politics two car. It looks like there's ligature marks around his neck. And then there's also there's broken blood vessels and stuff amongst fingers the tops of some of the things about hands. Like, he was reaching the get that ligature off his neck, whatever it was. And so he thinks that it could have been relation could have been the cost. And and part of this story isn't just the kids are are these young men typically again, the the the consistent characteristics are young athletically built. They are not known for being or at least at one point the one of the common characters they were not known for being heavy drinkers. They were known for being a regular perhaps. Patrons at a at a bar for parties. But they weren't these weren't people who are walking around drunk all day long. And they were they were high performers there overachievers they had a future. They were bright. They seem to be targeted almost on the basis of that. And that's what made me think I I'm sure you've heard of the whole phenomenon. This rise of the beta thing, and they're sort of the revenge of the beta males, this feeling that some people have and it it exists on the web at least in in word. I don't know if how whether anybody really. Turns it into this kind of tragic action. But that that these are people that are that should be punished for being so popular because of the in cells, the involuntary, you know, celebrate men who are sitting in basements, envious of the popularity of the genetically gifted or whatever. And and so I wonder whether that could be a component in this this this dark beta male thing where they're taking revenge out on the on the popular and good looking right. I I think that's what I was saying earlier, they thought the envy thing, you know, you're raising a different way. But these these are the guys they they wish they were, you know, and they're not so right right on specifically, the in-cell thing, this is a this is a really interesting, it's much more formal and the associations of in cells around the country. So where some people thought originally, this might be some satanic thing. You know, or some group that was traveling around in a van, and they were doing these initiations that maybe it's just a matter of these sort of thrill killings that are going on amongst amongst in cells that are taking out their frustrations on the popular. I know I'm just spinning. But that's how I I even back. Then I think they thought that there were different styles. And they 'cause they figured that. If it was organized in somewhat structured, but because they they figured they had to have different groups in different cities. And that's why you know, one of the criticisms has been well, the writings not the same. Well, it's different thousand different cities different and stocks at my story. I mean, one in one one group of five Michael out and do something one night in another group of five might do it another. But, but yeah, that's the only way they could figure two when they first started looking at this as to how there could be a couple different ones in different parts of the country at the same time. 'cause there has in that. I mean, there's been like I think eleven or thirteen in Boston too. And you know, you read because through this book and you look at the list of the ones in the mid west. It's. These are not guys who die like this. If you were you'd see it in every city in the country, right? Oh, yeah. There's another drunk guy that just fell into the river. When he went to I went out drinking. You know, you only see where where there's been like a cluster of these it's not and even statistically, they did a statistical analysis, and it doesn't hold up that you you. You would expect to see this everywhere if these were just a phenomenon of you know, this is just this is what happened? Is that stage get drunk and Fall River, then you would expect to see that all over the country, and you're not you're just seeing it in clusters in these specific city. We're talking with the Nikki Egan the author of the Daily Beast piece yesterday, we've lifted up to our website at coast to coast AM dot com. Scroll down to tonight's guests, and you can read it there. And she has presented again making the case along with oxygen and various podcasts of continuing to bring attention to this very unusual story about young men and the reoccurrence perhaps most often the smiley face. But there are other symbols that seemed to be spray painted on. Exactly where the body went into the river or where the body would be later found. Yeah. Go ahead. And they and they say, it's the first visible struck bandmates structure. You can see from where the body was placed. Right. The way they how narrowly they've been able to bring you know. And at one point to the there, there was a geographical anomaly that was being studied which was the main highway that they were all a cluster these were all off of was it. I seventy that is cutting four I ninety four. That's right. Yeah. Within a certain number of miles on either side of I ninety four starting all the way in the twin cities and going going east and not surprisingly not going west at least at the time. But that they were could track that through the upper midwest, and it was almost like coming up to an offramp. You could take a go a couple of miles on a state highway come back to I ninety four and be gone. And that was that was consistent is that no longer being discussed in the case. Well, what happened the way that came about was professor Gilbertson gang expert right that let student went missing at his university. And so he went online and just googling to get some information on him. And then found out was like, oh my God. There's all these other MRI kid be missing college students who have been later been found dead. So he there was a string of them. And so he assigned to of his grad student they needed to project to look at them and see if there was a pattern and that I ninety four. With part of the pattern. But and then he kind of set it aside. And then meanwhile, you know, Kevin Gannon was working on it and ninety seven this was that was like that early two thousands. I think that was doing think Kevin Gannon was the late ninety s he retired in two thousand one thousand two he's anyway, they all connected in two thousand six basically, Kevin and Anthony Barr, his colleague NYPD, and then the professor because they had heard about the research 'cause Kevin sawn CNN and two thousand two that there were all these midwest deaths due and he had to others in New York, by the way within fourteen months. There was another guy that disappeared after a night out of Grand Central and I first guy Patrick meal. His body was found twelve miles downriver in Brooklyn and the harbor patrol told Kevin that like there's no way to currents would carry you there again, no damage to the body. There's all these ship, traffic and all this. Anyway, it would have been really banged up. If it had been traveling there for like two or three months, well, guess what? There's other. Other guy who disappears ten months later from Grand Central his body turns out right near where Patrick meal. What? Coincidence free three months later in New York City and was found in the water. So then Kevin saw the same thing was happening in the mid west. But then he had cancer. He was fighting cancer for all the four. And then he got back on it and connected with the doctor. So then they start to they started traveling to all the teams, and that's when they develop more of the pattern. That's when they started looking they saw 'cause he, of course, Dr Gilbertson is a gang earned, so. Wrote graffiti, it's not just graffiti, it's yeah, there's a smiley face. But these all these other symbols, and there's like key to it. But there's twelve others to present to for them to count it. It's the. I got I was friendly with an rule before her death and interviewing her she told me, and I am reminded of this during the conversation that that one of the characteristics.

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"Stairs to win. You could. But the thing is that they have surveillance video. They see him at like eleven forty nine pm walking across this plaza in downtown, Pittsburgh, and he's fine. He's not staggering. He's not a straight line. When Shelly said when she picked him up. He wasn't drunk. He didn't seem inebriated anything in swearing terrified findings like texting or doing something with this phone just walking across and he seems fine. And then he just walks down. This alley I guess the last shot of them. They got was he kinda lead against Wofford second. And then the cameras at the other end of the alley have water in them. So they couldn't catch him, and then either could've gone left and then gone right over the Roberto Clemente bridge to go home, but the cameras didn't capture him doing that. You should finished. You know, the there's that other piece there too. In your story, where he told her that he had on the initial case when he called her scared said come pick me up disoriented where he was he said that he had already spoken to a police officer in the cockpit blown them off. Yeah. That's what he said. He said, I've tried to have the cops the cops won't help me. And you know, I tried at all these questions. I did ask all these questions of the Pittsburgh cops the DA's office AMI's office. They were very rude. Very dismissive. And you've got our answer. You can keep asking questions all you want. But you've got our answer. They treat a reporter like that. I can imagine how badly they treat the families on March sixth two thousand seventeen forty days after Dakota James disappeared. Roughly nine weeks after the original call to his friend a woman walking her dog saw his body floating in the Ohio river ten miles from where he was last seen downtown. Another thirty feet off shore, which isn't that far ruled an accidental drowning. Yep. That's what they ruled it even though there's no negative. His body had traveled ten miles down that river, and there's a steel and concrete dam there that it would have had to go like over underneath there's no damage to the body whatsoever. And there's. It's the same type of thing. It didn't look like body wasn't a decomposed enough to have been in the water for that long. And the the mother also, oh, and the kicker is this is the horrifying kicker. But so they the family never got just got an autopsy report they never they had to specifically request photographs from the autopsy they weren't allowed to see Dakota on the mother was forced to identifying him by looking at a tattoo on his ankle. They wouldn't let her see her own son and because because his wishes were to be cremated. That's what they had done with him. But so it took a year and a half. But she finally got and just this past August, she got photos from autopsy, and they took it to Sarah, waxes, same pathologist who could card looks like there's ligature marks around his neck. And then there's also there's broken lead blessings and stuff amongst fingers the top some of the cigarettes in both hands. Like he was reaching to get that ligature neck often. Neck, whatever it was. And so he thinks that that could have been relation could have been the cost down. And and part of this story isn't just the the kids are are these young men typically again, the the the consistent characteristics are young S lettuce built. They are not known for being or at least at one point one of the common character. They were not known for being heavy drinkers. They were known for being regular perhaps. Patrons at a at a bar for parties. But they weren't these weren't people who are walking around drunk all day long. And they were they were high performers there overachievers they had a future. They were bright. They seem to be targeted almost on the basis of that. And that's what made me think I'm sure you've heard the whole phenomenon. This rise of the beta thing, and they're sort of the revenge of the beta males, this feeling that some people have and it it exists on the web at least in in word. I don't know if how whether anybody really turns it into this kind of tragic action. But that that these are people that are that should be punished for being so popular because of the in cells, the involuntary celebrate men who are sitting in basements, envious of the popularity of the genetically gifted or whatever. And and so I. I wonder whether that could be a component in this this this dark beta male thing where they're taking revenge out on the on the popular and good looking right. I I think that's what I was saying earlier that detectives thought the envy thing, you know, you're raising a different way. But these these are the guys they they wish they were, you know, and they're not. So they right. But specifically the in-cell thing this is a this is a really interesting, it's much more formal and the associations of in cells around the country. So where some people thought originally, this might be some satanic thing, you know, or some group that was traveling around in a van, and they were doing these initiations that maybe it's just a matter of these sort of thrill killings that are going on amongst amongst in cells that are taking out their frustrations on the popular. I know I'm just spinning. But that's how I I think even back then I think they thought that there were different cells, and they because they figured that if we're gonna is in somewhat structured, but because they they figured they had to have different groups in different cities. And that's why you know, one of the criticisms as well, the writings not the same with this. Well, it's different cells in different cities different people. And as stocks at my story, I mean one one one group of five go out and do something one night in another group of five might do it another. But the yeah, that's the only way they could figure two when they first started looking at this. How there could be a couple different ones in different parts of the country at the same time because there has been that. I mean, there's been like eleven or thirteen in Boston too. And you know, you read because through this book and you look at the list of the ones in the mid west. It's these are not guys who die like this. If you were you'd see it in every city in the country. Right. Oh, yeah. Another drunk guy that just fell into the river when he went out drinking. You know, you only see it where where there's been like a cluster of these it's not and even statistically, they did a statistical analysis, and it doesn't hold up that you you would expect to see this everywhere if this were just a phenomenon of, you know, this is just this is what happened skies this age get drunk and team. Then you would expect to see that all over the country, and you're not you're just seeing it in clusters in these specific city, we're talking with Nikki Egan, the author of the Daily Beast piece yesterday, we've lifted up to our website at coast to coast AM dot com. Scroll down to tonight's guests, and you can read it there. And she has presented again making the case along with oxygen and various podcasts of continuing to bring attention to this very unusual story about young men and the reoccurrence perhaps most often the smiley face. But there are other symbols that seemed to be spray painted on. Exactly where the body went into the river or where the body would be later found. Yeah. Go ahead. And they and they say, it's the first visible struck bandmates structure. You can see from where the body was placed. Right. The way they have narrowly. They've been able to bring you know, and at one point to the there, there was a geographical anomaly that was being studied which was the main highway that they were a cluster these were all off of. Was it? I seventy four I ninety four. That's right. Yeah. With within a certain number of miles on either side of I ninety four starting all the way in the twin cities and going going east and not surprisingly not going west at least at the time. But that they could track that through the upper midwest, and it was almost like coming up to an offramp, you could take a couple of miles on a state highway come back to I ninety four and be gone. And that was that was consistent is that no longer being discussed in the case. Well, what happened the way that came about was professor Gilbertson gang expert that student went missing at his university. And so he went online and just I was googling to get some information on him. And then found out is like oh my God. There's all these other MRI kid be missing college students who have been found dead. So he there was a string of them. And so he assigned to his grad student. They needed to project look at them and see if there was pattern and that I ninety four west part of the pattern. But and then he kind of set it aside. And then meanwhile, you know, Kevin Gannon was working on it and ninety seven this was that early two thousands. I think then Kevin Gannon was the late nineties. He retired in two thousand one two thousand two he's anyway, they all connected in two thousand six basically, Kevin and Anthony Duarte his colleague NYPD. And then the professor he had heard about the research 'cause Kevin saw on CNN and two thousand two that they're all these midwest deaths due and he had to others in New York, by the way within fourteen months. There was another guy that disappeared after a night out of Grand Central and the first guy Patrick McNeill. His body was found twelve miles downriver in Brooklyn and the harbor patrol told Kevin like there's no way to currents would carry you there and again, no damage to the body. There's all these ship, traffic and all this. Anyway, it would have been really. Banged up. If it had been traveling there for like two or three months. Well, guess what? This other guy who disappears. Ten months later from Grand Central his body turns out right near where Patrick meals flood. Coincidence. Three three months later in New York City and was found in the water. So then Kevin saw the same thing was happening in the mid west. But then he had cancer. He was fighting cancer for all four. And then he got back on it and connected with the doctor. So then they start to then they start traveling to all the scenes, and that's when they develop more of the pattern. That's when they started looking they saw 'cause he, of course, Dr Gilbertson is a gang. So. It's not just graffiti, it's. Yeah. There's a smiley face. But there's all these other symbols. And there's. Ruined key to there's twelve others that have to present to for them to count it. I got I was friendly with an rule before her death and interviewing her she told me, and I am reminded of this during the conversation that that one of the.

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11:24 min | 2 years ago

"roberto clemente bridge" Discussed on Newsradio 970 WFLA

"Nicole weisensee Egan is the author of a new book coming up about the Cosby case, which doesn't drop for a little while yet. Right when the actual release date, April twenty third the book is called chasing. Cosby the downfall of America's dad, but we're talking about the article that came out yesterday in the Daily Beast, and Nikki was talking about that. She still follows this case since she was first introduced to it. Almost skeptically back in two thousand and eight and has since then breath amongst an elite group of people who've been following the story in trying to make heads or tails out of it since then the update that you have on the Daily Beast was interesting because as you point out, there's a a a really well documented case of another close call it would seem from two thousand and sixteen can you tell us the story of Dakota James? Oh, right. So we a close call that threw me for a second. Yes. This was chilling. When I when I talked to this woman so about five weeks before Dakota James vanished when it was a close friend named Shelley. And she had texted him. See if he was going to come out and he calls her. It's like eleven eleven fifteen tonight. And he's like, Shelly, I'm cold. I don't know where I am help me. Help me. Come get me got me. And she's like, oh my God. Of course. I'm you know, I'm on my way, where are you? And he said, it's I I think he said northside northside. And then she said, so she's like all right on my way. But then she had and they had enabled location services on the phone, which I didn't even know about. We use them all the time to keep track of our kids. There you go. I don't have kids. So. So so yes, she actually sees on the opposite side of the city. And she and meanwhile, she's getting all these texts and she sent me screen shots of the tax. And it's like Shelley helped me I'm cold help me, and he was crying and sobbing by the way when he called her to. And so she finally finds him he's outside he's coming out of a Springhill suites. She told him to go in the into the hotel, and she's pulling up there's this stark vehicle their parks, the wrong way Parkway to five and he's heading right toward it, and she hollers out his name, and he sees her. And then he comes over to her. And he tells her, you know, she's like you tells you like I don't we did not remember the last four hours of his night. The last thing you remember he was at a work party was some co workers they went out to a bar last thing. I remember it was about seven fifteen and the rest of the nicer blank. And then he's wandering around the downstream of Pittsburgh. He didn't know where he was what had happened was freezing cold. Which is interesting because I've been reading a lot about GBH. And that is one of the things I think the heat you up so much apparently. So then. You don't have a coat on or something like that the the differential between the GP h what it does to your body temperature and the surrounding air freezing cold. And so then she said she wanted to take him to the hospital. She thought she's thinking was he drugged was. He did something really I called. She's thinking was an accident was up like he was hysterical crying. So, but he didn't want to go to the hospital and she took him home. And the next day. He just sort of like, you know, we kind of brushed it off. And you know, she would have to. But then he disappeared after Simone. I'd co workers five weeks later, and that's the tragedy. If so then it really does feel like it's not just a crime of opportunity, but that somebody had targeted him or I mean, it's an incredible coincidence that he would be taken at random. You know, words followed it random, but that somebody was watching for him and catching him at that kind of moment. Yeah. Either that was an attempt to that night, and it sailed and managed to get loose or it was just stalking him. Or or something? I I don't know. I mean, but then he did he did vanish. And you know, if you watch those security, you know, and of course, the cop. Oh, well, he he went to the river. Right. Because of course, that's what you do. You. Walk down stairs to adopt. You could. But the thing is that they have surveillance video. They see him at like eleven forty nine pm walking across this plaza in downtown, Pittsburgh, and he's fine. He's not staggering. He's not walking straight line. When Shelly said when she picked him up. He wasn't drunk. He didn't seem inebriated anything. He wasn't slurring and terrified and find he's like texting or doing something with his phone just walking across and he seems fine. And then he just walks down. This alley I guess the last shot of them. They got was he kinda lead against the wall for second. And then the cameras at the other end of the alley have water in them. So they couldn't catch him, and then either could've gone left and then gone right over the Roberto Clemente bridge to go home, but the cameras didn't capture him doing that finished. You know, the there's that other piece there too. In your story, where he told her that he had on the initial case when he called her scared said come pick me up disoriented where he was he said that he had already spoken to a police officer in the cockpit blown them off. Yeah. That's what he said. He said, I've tried to have the cops the cops will help me. And you know, I tried to ask all these questions. I did ask all these questions of the Pittsburgh cops the DA's office Emmys office, they were very rude. Very dismissive. And you've got our answer. You can keep asking questions all you want. But you've got our answer. They treat a reporter like that. I can imagine how badly they treat the families on March sixth two thousand seventeen forty days after Dakota James disappeared. Roughly what nine weeks after the original call to his friend a woman walking her dog saw his body floating in the Ohio river ten miles from where he was last seen downtown. Right. Another thirty feet offshore which isn't that far ruled an accidental drowning. Yep. That's what they ruled it even though there's no negative. His body had traveled ten miles down that river. And there's a steel and concrete Dan there that it would have had to go like over underneath there's no damage to the body whatsoever. And there's. It's the same type of thing. It didn't look like body wasn't a decomposed enough to have been in the water for that long. And the the mother also, oh, and the kicker is this is the horrifying kicker. But so they the family never got. I just got an autopsy report they never they had specifically requested a photographs from the autopsy they weren't allowed to see Dakota on the mother was forced to identify him by looking at a tattoo on his ankle. They wouldn't let her see her own son, and because Dakota's wishes where to be cremated. That's what they had done with him. But so it took a year and a half. But she finally got and just this past August, she got photos from autopsy, and they took it to Sierra laxest famed pathologist to card looks like there's ligature marks around his neck. And then there's also there's broken blood vessels and stuff amongst fingers the top some of the fingers on both hands. Like he was reaching the get that ligature neck often. Neck, whatever it was. And so he thinks that the death could have been speculation could have been the cost of. And part of this story isn't just the the kids are are these young men. Typically, again, the the the consistent characteristics are young S-led built. They are not known for being or at least at one point the one of the common characters they were not known for being heavy drinkers. They were known for being regular perhaps patrons at a at a bar for parties. But they weren't these weren't people are walking around drunk all day long. And they were they were high performers there overachievers. They had a future. They were bright the seemed to be targeted almost on the basis of that. And that's what made me think I'm sure you've heard of the whole phenomena. This rise of the beta thing, and they're sort of the revenge of the beta males meant this feeling that some people have and it it exists on the web at least in in word. I don't know how whether anybody really. Turns it into this kind of tragic action. But that that these are people that are that should be punished for being so popular because of the in cells, the involuntary celebrate men who are sitting in basements, envious of the popularity of the genetically gifted or whatever. And and so I wonder whether that could be a component in this this this dark beta male thing where they're taking revenge out on the on the popular and good looking right. I I think that's what I was saying earlier detective Stott to envy thing. You know? You're you're the phrasing is different way. But these these are the guys they they wish they were, you know, and they're not. So they right. Right. Specifically the thing. This is a this is a really interesting, there's it's much more formal and the associations of in cells around the country. So where some people thought originally, this might be some satanic thing, you know, or some group that was traveling around event, and they were doing these initiations that maybe it's just a matter of these sort of thrill killings that are going on amongst amongst in cells that are taking out their frustrations on the popular. I know I'm just spinning. But that's how I even back. Then I think they thought that there were different cells, and they because they figured that if it was organized in somewhat structured, but because they they figured they had to have different groups in different cities. And that's why you know, one of the criticisms has been well, the writings not the same with, well, it's different cells in different cities different people. And as stocks at my story, I mean one one one group of five my go out and do something one night and another group of five might do it another. But the yeah, that's the only way they could figure two when they first started looking at this as to how there could be a couple different ones in different parts of the country at the same time because there has been that. I mean, there's been like I think eleven or thirteen in Boston too. And you know, you read because we just and you look at the list of the ones in the mid west. It's these are not guys who die like this. If you were you'd see it in every city in the country. Right. Oh, yeah. It was another drunk guy that just fell into the river. When he went out drinking. You know, you only see where where there's been like a cluster of eat. It's not and even statistically, they did a statistical analysis, and it doesn't hold up that you you. You would expect to see this everywhere if this were just a phenomenon of, you know, this is just this is what happened skies this age get drunk and Fall River, then you would expect to see that all over the country, and you're not you're just seeing it in clusters in these specific city, we're talking with Nikki Egan, the author of the Daily Beast piece yesterday, we've lifted up to our website at coast to coast AM dot com. Scroll down to tonight's guests, and you can read it there..

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11:42 min | 2 years ago

"roberto clemente bridge" Discussed on WCBM 680 AM

"I R E C T. Two seven nine six four five. Nicole weisensee Egan is the author of a new book coming up about the Cosby case, which doesn't drop for a little while yet right once the actual release date a twenty third. The book is called chasing. Cosby the downfall of America's dad, but we're talking about the article that came out yesterday in the Daily Beast, and Nikki was talking about that. She still follows this case since she was first introduced to it. Almost skeptically back in two thousand and eight and has since then brats amongst an elite group of people who have been following the story and trying to make heads or tails out of it since then. The update that you have on the Daily Beast was interesting because as you point out, there's a really well documented case of another close call it would seem from two thousand and sixteen can you tell us the story of Dakota James? Oh, right. So close that threw me for a second. Yes. This this was telling when I when I talked to this woman so about five weeks before Dakota James vanished when he has a close friend named Shelley. And she had texted him. See if he was gonna come out, and he calls her it's like eleven thirty seven fifty tonight, and he's like Shelley on hold. I don't know where I am help me. Help me come get me. Come get me. And she's like, oh my God. Of course. You know? I'm on my way, where are you? And he said, Pittsburgh, I think he said northside northside. And then she said, so she's like all right on my way. But then she had and they had enabled location services on the phone, which I didn't even know about because she we use them all the time to keep track of our kids. There you go kids. So. So so yes, she actually sees. He's on the opposite side of the city. And she I mean while she's getting all these texts him, and she sent me screen shots of the tax. And it's like Shelley helped me I'm cold me. And he was crying and sobbing by the way when he called her to. And so she finally finds them he's outside. He's coming out of a spring of she told him to go in there. Into the hotel, and she's pulling up there's this stark vehicle their parks the wrong way park like he's heading toward it, and she hollers out his name, and he sees her. And then he comes over to her. And he tells you know, she's like it tells you like I don't equally d did not remember the last four hours of his night. The last thing he remembered he was at a work party was co workers they went out to a bar last thing I remember was about seven fifteen and the rest of the nicer blank. And then he's wandering around the downstream to Pittsburgh. He didn't know where he was what had happened leave is freezing cold, which is interesting because I've been reading a lot about TV H. And that is one of the things I think the heat you up so much apparently. So then. Don't have a coat on or something like that the the differential between the GP h what it does to your body temperature and the surrounding like freezing cold. And so then she said she wanted to take him to the hospital. She thought she's thinking with drug was he did something when he first called. She's thinking was an accident was eaten up like he was hysterical crying. So, but he didn't want to go to the hospital and she took him home. And the next day. He just was sort of like, you know, he kind of brushed it off. And you know, she would have to, but then he disappeared after a similar night out with co workers five weeks later, and that's the tragedy. If so then it really does feel like it's not just a crime of opportunity, but that somebody had targeted him or I mean, it's incredible coincidence that he would be taken at random words followed at random, but that somebody was watching for him and catching him that that kind of moment. Yeah. Either that was an attempt that night and it failed in minutes to get loose or it was just stalking him. More or something. I don't know. I mean, but then he did he did vanish. And you know, if you watch those security, you know, and of course, the cop. Well, he he he went to the river. Right. Because of course, that's what you do. You walk down the stairs to adopt. When you could. But the thing is that they have surveillance video. They see him at like eleven forty nine pm walking across this plaza in downtown, Pittsburgh, and he's fine. He's not staggering. He's not walk in a straight line. When Shelly said when she picked him up. He wasn't drunk. He didn't seem inebriated anything wasn't slurring terrified findings like texting or doing something with this phone just walking across and he seems fine. And then he just walks down. This alley. I guess the last shot dot was he kinda lead against the law for second. And then the cameras at the other end of alley had water in as they couldn't catch him, and then either could've gone left and then gone right over the Roberto Clemente bridge to go home, but the cameras capture him doing that he finished, you know, the there's that other piece there too in your story where he told her that he had on the initial case when he called her scared said come pick me up disoriented where he was. He said that he had already spoken to a police officer in the cockpit blowing them off. Yeah. That's what he said. He said, I've tried to have the cops the cops will help me. And you know, I tried to ask all these questions. I did ask all these questions of the Pittsburgh cops the DA's office and he's office. They were very rude. Very dismissive. And you've got our answer. You can keep asking questions all you want. But you've got our answer. They treat a reporter like that. I can imagine how badly they treat the families on March sixth two thousand seventeen forty days after Dakota James disappeared. Roughly what nine weeks after the original call to his friend a woman walking dogs saw his body floating in the Ohio river ten miles from where he was last seen downtown. Right. Another thirty feet offshore which isn't that far ruled an accidental drowning. That's what they wrote it. Even though there's no his body had traveled ten miles down river, and there's a steel and concrete ban there that it would have had to go like over underneath there's no damage to the body whatsoever. And there's. It's the same type of thing. The body wasn't a decomposed enough to have been in the water for that long. And the the mother also, oh, and the kicker is this is the horrifying, ticker. But so they the family never got just got an autopsy report they never they had to specifically request of photographs from the autopsy they weren't allowed to see Dakota on the mother was forced to identify him by looking at a tattoo on his ankle. They wouldn't let her see her own son and because because wishes where to be cremated. That's what they had done with him. But that we took a year and a half. But she finally got and just this past August, she got the photos from autopsy, and they took it to Sarah this same pathologist to card. It looks like there's ligature marks around his neck. And then there's also there's broken blood vessels and stuff amongst fingers the top some of the fingers on both hands. Like he was reaching to get that ligature next off often, neck, whatever it was. And so he thinks that. The death could have been relation could have been the cost down. And and part of this story isn't just the the kids are are these young men typically again, the the the consistent characteristics are young built. They are not known for being or at least at one point one of the common characters. They were not known for being heavy drinkers. They were known for being regular perhaps. Patrons at a at a bar for parties. But they weren't these weren't people who are walking around drunk all day long. And they were they were high performers are overachievers. They had a future. They were bright. They seem to be targeted almost on the basis of that. And that's what made me think I'm sure you've heard of the whole phenomenon. This rise of the beta thing, and they're sort of the revenge of the beta males, this feeling that some people have and it it exists on the web at least in in word. I don't know if how whether anybody really. Turns it into this kind of tragic action. But that these are people that are that should be punished for being so popular because of the in cells, the involuntary celebrate men who are sitting in basements, envious of the popularity of the genetically gifted or whatever. And so I wonder whether that could be a component in this this this dark beta male thing where they're taking revenge out on the on the popular and good looking right. I I think that's what I was saying earlier. Detectives thought to envy thing, you know, you're raising a different way. But these these are the guys they they wish they were, you know, and they're not. So they. Specifically the in cell thing. This is a this is a really interesting thing. It's much more formal and the associations of in cells around the country. So where some people thought originally, this might be some satanic thing or some group that was traveling around in a van, and they were doing these initiations that maybe it's just a matter of these sort of thrill killings that are going on amongst amongst in cells that are taking out their frustrations on the popular. I know I'm just spinning. But that's how I think even back then I think they thought that there were different cells, and they because they figured that if it was organized in somewhat structured, but because they they figured they had to have different groups in different cities. And that's why you know, one of the criticisms as well, the writings not the same. Well, it's different thousand different cities different stocks at my story. I mean, one in one one group of five go out and do something one night and another five might do it another. But yeah, that's the only way they could figure two when they first started looking at this as to how there could be a couple different ones in different parts of the country at the same time because there has been that. I mean, there's been like I think eleven or thirteen in Boston too. And you know, you read because we spoke in any look at the list of the ones in the mid west. It's. These are not guys who die like this. If you were you'd see it in every city in the country. Right. Oh, yeah. There's another drunk guy that just fell into the river. When he went to I went out drinking. You know, you only see where it's been like a cluster of these it's not and even statistically, they did a statistical analysis, and it doesn't hold up that you you would expect to see this everywhere if these were just a phenomenon of you know, this is just this is what happened. Is that they get drunk and fallen. And you would expect to see that all over the country, and you're not you're just seeing it in clusters in these specific city, we're talking with Nikki Egan, the author of the Daily Beast piece yesterday, we've lifted up to our website at coast to coast AM dot com. Scroll down to tonight's guests, and you can read it there..

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"roberto clemente bridge" Discussed on KLIF 570 AM

KLIF 570 AM

11:35 min | 2 years ago

"roberto clemente bridge" Discussed on KLIF 570 AM

"On five seventy K L I F. Nicole weisensee Egan is the author of a new book coming up about the Cosby case, which doesn't drop for a little while yet right once the actual release date, April twenty third. The book is called chasing. Cosby the downfall of America's dad, but we're talking about the article that came out yesterday in the Daily Beast, and Nikki was talking about that. She still follows this case since she was first introduced to it. Almost skeptically back in two thousand and eight and has since then brats amongst in elite group of people who have been following the story in trying to make heads or tails out of it since then. The update that you have on the Daily Beast was interesting because as you point out, there's a a a really well documented case of another close call it would seem from two thousand and sixteen can you tell us the story of Dakota James? Oh, right. So he's a close call that threw me for a second. Yes. So this was chilling. When I when I talked to this woman so about five weeks before Dakota James vanished when he has a close friend named Shelley. And she had texted him. See if he was gonna come out and he calls her. It's like eleven eleven fifty tonight. He's like Shelly on hold. I don't know where I am help me. Help me come get me. Come get me. And she's like, oh my God. Of course. I'm you know, I'm on my way, where are you? And he said, Pittsburgh, I think you said northside northside, and then she said, so she's like all right on my way. But then she had an they had enabled location services on the phone, which I didn't even know about because she leaves him all the time to keep track of our kids. I don't have kids. So. So so yes, she actually sees on the opposite side of the city. And she I mean while she's getting all these texts and she sent me screen shots of the tax. And it's like Shelley helped me I'm cold help me, and he was crying and sobbing by the way when he called her to. And so she finally finds them he's outside. He's coming out of a spring. Sweet. She told him to go in the into the hotel, and she's pulling up there's this stark vehicle their parks the wrong way park like he's heading right toward it, and she hollers out his name, and he sees her. And then he comes over to her. And he tells her, you know, she's like I don't equally he did not remember the last four hours of his night. The last thing he remembered he was at a work party was co workers they went out to a bar last thing I remember about seven fifteen and the rest of the nicer blank. And then he's wandering around the down three Pittsburgh. He didn't know where he was what had happened. He was freezing cold, which is interesting. Because I've been reading a lot about GBH. And that is one of the things I think the heat you up so much apparently. So then. The code honor or something like that the differential between the GP h what it does to your body temperature and the surrounding air freezing cold. And so then she said she wanted to take him to the hospital. She thought she's thinking was he drugged was. He did something really I called you thinking was an accident with eating up like he was hysterical crying. So, but he didn't want to go to the hospital and she took him home. And the next day. He just sort of like, you know, we kind of brushed it off. And you know, she would have to. But then he disappeared after Simone. I'd co workers five weeks later, and that's the tragedy of so then it really does feel like it's not just a crime of opportunity, but that somebody had targeted him or I mean, it's incredible coincidence that he would be taken at random works followed at random, but that somebody was watching for him and catching him at that kind of moment. Yeah. Either that was an attempt at night and it failed in managed to get loose. Or it was just stocking hammer or something I I don't know. I mean, but then he. We did eat advantage. And you know, if you if you watch those security, you know, and of course, the cops while he was drunk. He went to the river. Right. Because of course, that's what you do. You walk down these stairs. Docked could. You could. But the thing is that they have surveillance video. They see him at like eleven forty nine pm walking across this plaza in downtown, Pittsburgh, and he's fine. He's not staggering. He's not walking a straight line. When Shelly said when she picked him up. He wasn't drunk. He didn't seem inebriated anything. He wasn't slurring terrified findings like texting or doing something with his phone just walking across and he seems fine. And then he just walks down. This alley I guess the last shot of God was he kinda lead against the law for a second. And then the cameras at the other end of the alley have water in them. So they couldn't catch him, and then either could've gone left and then gone right over Roberto Clemente bridge to go home, but the cameras didn't capture him doing that you should finish. The there's that other piece there too in your story where he told her that he had on the initial case when he called her scared said come pick me up disoriented where he was he said that he. Had already spoken to a police officer in the cockpit blown them off. Yeah. That's what he said. He said, I've tried to stop the cops the cops won't help me. And you know, I tried to ask all these questions. I did ask all these questions of the Pittsburgh cops the DA's office Emmys office, they were very rude. Very dismissive. And you've got an answer you can keep asking questions all you want. But you've got our answer. They treat a reporter like that. I can imagine how badly they treat the families on March sixth two thousand seventeen forty days after Dakota James disappeared. Roughly nine weeks after the original call to his friend a woman walking her dog saw his body floating in the Ohio river ten miles from where he was last seen downtown. Right. Another thirty feet offshore. Which isn't that far ruled an accidental drowning a guy that's what they rolled it. Even though there's no his body had traveled ten miles down that river, and there's a steel and concrete, Dan there that it would have had to go like over underneath there's no damage to the body whatsoever. And there's. It's the same type of thing. It didn't look like body wasn't a decomposed enough to have been in the water for that long. And the the mother also, oh, and the kicker is this is the horrifying kicker. So they the family never got just got an autopsy report they never they had to specifically request photographs from the autopsy they weren't allowed to see Dakota on the mother was forced to identify him by looking at a tattoo on his ankle. They wouldn't let her see her own son, and because Dakota's wishes where to be cremated. That's what they had done with him. But it took a year and a half. But she finally got in just this past August, she got photos from autopsy, and they took it to Sarah lack this same pathologist to occur. It looks like there's ligature marks around his neck. And then there's also there's broken blood vessels and stuff. Amongst fingers tops some of the things about hands. Like he was reaching to get that ligature neck off his neck, whatever it was. And so he thinks that they could have been relation could have been the cost of. And and part of this story isn't just the kids are are these young men typically again, the the the consistent characteristics are young lettuce built. They are not known for being or at least at one point the one of the common characters they were not known for being heavy drinkers. They were known for being regular perhaps. Patrons at a at a bar for parties. But they weren't these people who are walking around drunk all day long. And they were they were high performers there overachievers. They had a future. They were bright the seemed to be targeted almost on the basis of that. And that's what made me think I'm sure you've heard of the whole phenomena. This rise of the beta thing, and they're sort of the revenge of the beta males, this the feeling that some people have and it it exists on the web at least in in word. I don't know if how whether anybody really turns it into this kind of tragic action. But that these are people that are that should be punished for being so popular because of the in cells, the involuntary, you know, celebrate men who are sitting in basements, envious of the popularity of the genetically gifted or whatever. And and so I wonder whether that could be a component in this this this dark beta male thing where they're taking revenge out on the on the popular and good looking right. I I think that's what I was. Saying earlier detectives thought to envy thing, you know, you're the phrasing a different way. But these these are the guys they they wish they were, you know, and they're not so right. Specifically, the in-cell thing. This is a this is a really interesting. There's it's much more formal and the associations of in cells around the country. So we're some people thought originally, this might be some satanic thing. You know, or some group that was traveling around in a van than they were doing these initiations that maybe it's just a matter of these sort of thrill killings that are going on amongst amongst in cells that are taking out their frustrations on the popular. I know I'm just spinning. But that's how I I think even back then I think they thought that there were different cells, and they because they figured that. It was it was organized in somewhat structured, but because they they figured they had to have different groups in different cities. And that's why you know, one of the criticisms has been well, the writings not the same as well. It's different thousand different cities different and docks at at my story. I mean, one in one one group of five go out and do something one night in another group of five might do it another. But the yeah, that's the only way they could figure two when they first start looking at this as to how there could be a couple different ones in different parts of the country at the same time because there has been that. I mean, there's been like I think eleven or thirteen in Boston too. And you know, you read because this book and you look at the list of the ones in the mid west. It's these are not guys who die like this, though, if you were you'd see it in every city in the country, right? Oh, yeah. There was another drunk guy. It just fell into the river when he went out drinking. You know, you only see whether it's been like a cluster of not and even statistically, they did a statistical analysis, and it doesn't hold up that you expect to see this everywhere if these were just a phenomenon of, you know, this is just this is what happened guys age get drunk and fall the risk. River than you would expect to see that all over the country, and you're not you're just seeing that in clusters in these specific city, we're talking with the Nikki Egan the author of the Daily Beast piece yesterday, we've linked up to our website at coast to coast AM dot com. Scroll down to tonight's guests, and you can read it there..

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"roberto clemente bridge" Discussed on KTLK 1130 AM

KTLK 1130 AM

11:20 min | 2 years ago

"roberto clemente bridge" Discussed on KTLK 1130 AM

"Weisensee Egan is the author of a new book coming up about the Cosby case, which doesn't drop for a little while yet. Right when the actual release date, April twenty third the book is called chasing. Cosby the downfall of America's dad, but we're talking about the article that came out yesterday in the Daily Beast, and Nikki was talking about that. She still follows this case since she was first introduced to it. Almost skeptically back in two thousand and eight and has since then breath amongst an elite group of people who have been following the story and trying to make heads or tails out of it since then. The update that you have on the Daily Beast was interesting because as you point out, there's a a really well documented case of another close call it would seem from two thousand and sixteen can you tell us the story of Dakota James? Oh, right. So it a close call that threw me for a second. Yes. So in this this was chilling. When I when I talked to this woman so about five weeks before Dakota James vanished when it leaves. He has a close friend named Shelley. And she had texted him. See if he was gonna come out, and he calls her it's like eleven thirty seven fifty tonight. And he's like, Shelly, I'm cold. I don't know where I am help me. Help me come get me. Come get me. And she's like, oh my God. Of course. I'm you know, I'm on my way, where are you? And he said it's Berg, I think he said northside northside. And then she said, so she's like all right on my way. But then she had an they had enabled location services on the phone, which I didn't even know about. We use them all the time to keep track of our kids kids. So so yes, she actually sees on the opposite side of the city. And she I meanwhile, she's getting all these texts women. She screw sent me screen shots of the tax. And it's like Shelley helped me I'm cold helped me, and he was crying and sobbing by the way when he called her to. And so she finally finds him he's outside he's coming out of the Springhill suites. She told him to go in there. Into the towel. And she's pulling up there's this stark vehicle their parks the wrong way Parkway, and he's heading right toward it, and she hollers out his name, and he sees her. And then he comes over to her. And he tells her, you know, she's like I don't equally he did not remember the last four hours of his night. The last thing you remember he was at a work party was co workers they went out to a bar last thing. I remember it was about seven fifteen and the rest of the nicer blank, and then he's wandering around the downstream streets. Pittsburgh, he didn't know where he was what had happened leave is freezing cold, which is interesting because I've been reading a lot about GBH, and that is one of the things I think can heat you up so much apparently. So then. You don't have a coat on or something like that the the differential between the GP h what it does to your body temperature and the surrounding air freezing cold. And so then she said she wanted to take him to the hospital. She thought she's thinking was he drugged was. He did something really I called you thinking was an accident with he'd beaten up like he was hysterical crying. So he didn't want to go to the hospital and she took him home. And the next day. He just was sort of like, you know, we kind of brushed it off. And you know, she would have to but then he disappeared after a similar. I doubt co workers five weeks later, and that's the tragedy. If so then it really does feel like it's not just a crime of opportunity, but that somebody had targeted him or I mean, it's incredible coincidence that he would be taken at random words followed at random, but that somebody was watching for him and catching him at that kind of moment. Yeah. Either that was an attempt that night, and it failed and managed to get loose or it was just stalking him. Or or something? I I don't know. I mean, but then he did eat advantage. And you know, if you watch those security, you know, and of course, the cop while he was drunk. He went to the river. Right. Because of course, that's what you do. You. Walk down stairs to Dr piano could. But the thing is they have surveillance video. They see him at like eleven forty nine pm walking across this plaza in downtown, Pittsburgh, and he's fine. He's not staggering. He's not walking a straight line. When Shelly said when she picked him up. He wasn't drunk. He didn't seem inebriated anything slurring terrified and find he's like texting or doing something with his phone just walking across and he seems fine. And then he just walks down. This alley. I guess the last shot then they got was he kinda lead against the wall for a second. And then the cameras at the other end of the alley had water in them. So they couldn't catch him, and then either could've gone left and then gone right over the Roberto Clemente bridge to go home, but the cameras didn't capture him doing that. You finished the there's another piece there too. In your story, where he told her that he had on the initial case when he called her scared said come pick me up disoriented where he was he said that he had already spoken to a police officer in the cockpit blown them off. Yeah. That's what he said. He said, I've tried to have the cops the cops won't out me. And you know, I tried to ask all these questions. I did ask all these questions of the Pittsburgh cops the DA's office Emmys office, they were very rude. Very dismissive. And you've got an answer you can keep asking questions all you want. But you've got our answer. They treat a reporter like that. I can imagine how badly they treat the family on March. Sixth two thousand seventeen forty days after Dakota James disappeared. Roughly nine weeks after the original call to his friend a woman walking her dog saw his body floating in the Ohio river ten miles from where he was last seen downtown. Thirty feet offshore. Which isn't that far ruled an accidental drowning. Yep. That's what they wrote it. Even though there's no his body had traveled ten miles down that river. There's a steel and concrete Dan there that it would have had to go like over underneath there's no damage to the body whatsoever. And there's. It's the same type of thing. It didn't look like body wasn't decompose enough to have been in the water for that long. And the the mother also, oh, and the kicker is this is the horrifying, ticker. But so they the family never got just got an autopsy report they didn't never they had to specifically request photographs from the autopsy they weren't allowed to see Dakota on the mother was forced to identify him by looking at a tattoo on his ankle. They wouldn't let her see her own son and because because wishes where to be cremated. That's what they had done with him. But so it took a year and a half. But she finally got and just this past August, she got photos from topsy, and they took it to Cyril wack famed pathologist card looks like there's ligature marks around his neck. And then there's also there's broken blood vessels and stuff amongst fingers the top some of the fingers on both hands. Like he was reaching to get that ligature neck off. Neck, whatever it was. So he thinks that that that could have been strangulation could have been the cost bath. And and part of this story isn't just the the kids are are these young men typically again, the the the consistent characteristics are young lettuce built. They are not known for being or at least at one point the one of the common characters they were not known for being heavy drinkers. They were known for being a re regular perhaps patrons at a at a bar for parties. But they weren't these weren't people are walking around drunk all day long. And they were they were high performers there overachievers. They had a future. They were bright. They seem to be targeted almost on the basis of that. And that's what made me think I'm sure you've heard the whole phenomena. This rise of the beta thing, and they're sort of the revenge of the beta males, this feeling that some people have and it it exists on the web at least in in word. I don't know how whether anybody really. Turns it into this kind of tragic action. But that these are people that are that should be punished for being so popular because of the in cells, the involuntary, you know, celebrate men who are sitting in basements, envious of the popularity of the genetically gifted or whatever. And and so I wonder whether that could be a component in this this this dark beta male thing where they're taking revenge out on the on the popular and good looking right. I I think that's what I was saying earlier. Detectives thought envy thing, you know, you're raising a different way. But these these are the guys they they wish they were, you know, and they're not so. Right. Right. Specifically, the in-cell thing. This is a this is a really interesting. There's it's much more formal and the associations of installs around the country. So where some people thought originally, this might be some satanic thing, you know, or some group that was traveling around an event, and they were doing these initiations that maybe it's just a matter of these sort of thrill killings that are going on amongst amongst in cells that are taking out their frustrations on the popular. I know I'm just spinning. But that's how I I think even back then I think they thought that there were different cells, and they because they figured that if it was organized in somewhat structured, but because they they figured they had to have different groups in different cities. And that's why you know, one of the criticisms has been well, the writings not the same with the smiley. Well, it's different thousand different cities different people. And as stocks at my story, I mean one in one one group of five go out and do something one night and another group of five might do it another. But the yeah, that's only way they could figure to when they start looking at this as to how there could be a couple different ones in different parts of the country at the same time because there has been that. I mean, there's been like I think eleven or thirteen in Boston too. And you know, you read because through this book and you look at the list of the ones in the mid west. It's. These are not guys who die like this. If you were you'd see it in every city in the country. Right. Oh, yeah. There was another drunk guy that just fell into the river. When he went to. I went out drinking. You know, you only see whether it's been like a cluster of these it's not even statistically, they did a statistical analysis, and it doesn't hold up that you would expect to see this everywhere, if this were just a phenomenon of, you know, this is just this is what happened skies this age get drunk and Fall River, then you would expect to see that all over the country, and you're not you're just seeing it in clusters specific city. We're talking with Nikki Egan, the author of the Daily Beast piece yesterday, we've lifted up to our website at coast to coast AM dot.

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03:09 min | 2 years ago

"roberto clemente bridge" Discussed on 600 WREC

"Do you walk down. Stairs to Dr piano river. When you could. But the thing is that they have surveillance video. They see him like eleven forty nine pm walking across this plaza in downtown, Pittsburgh, and he's fine. He's not staggering. He's not walk in a straight line. When Shelly said when she picked him up. He wasn't drunk. He didn't seem inebriated anything. He wasn't slurring terrified findings like texting or doing something with this phone just walking across and he seems fine. And then he just walks down. This alley I guess the last shot of them. They got was he kind of lead against Wofford second. And then the cameras at the other end of the alley have water in them. So they couldn't catch him, and then either could've gone left and then gone right over the Roberto Clemente bridge to go home, but the cameras didn't capture him doing that you should finished. You know, the there's that other piece there too in your story where he told her that he had on the initial case when he called her scared said come pick me up disoriented where he was. Was he said that he had already spoken to police officer in the cockpit blown them off. Yeah. That's what he said. He said, I've tried to have the cops the cops won't help me. And you know, I tried to ask all these questions. I did ask all these questions of the Pittsburgh cops the DA's office Emmys office, they were very rude. Very dismissive. And you've got her answer. You can keep asking questions all you want. But you've got our answer. Treat a reporter like that. I can imagine how badly they treat the families on March sixth two thousand seventeen forty days after Dakota James disappeared. Roughly nine weeks after the original call to his friend a woman walking her dog saw his body floating in the Ohio river ten miles from where he was last seen downtown. Another thirty feet offshore which isn't that far ruled an accidental drowning. Yep. That's what they ruled it even though there's no if his body had traveled ten miles down river, and there's a steel and concrete, Dan there that it would have had to go like over underneath there's no damage to the body whatsoever. And there's. It's the same type of thing. It didn't look like body wasn't decomposed enough to have been in the water for that long. And the mother also there, and the kicker is this is the horrifying kicker. But so they the family never got. I just got an autopsy report they never they had to specifically request of photographs from the autopsy they weren't allowed to see Dakota on the mother was forced to identify him by looking at a tattoo on his ankle. They wouldn't let her see her own son, and because Dakota's wishes where to be cremated. That's what they had done with him. But it took a year and a half. But she finally got and just this past August, she got photos from autopsy. And they took it to Sarah wack this same pathologist to could card looks like there's ligature marks around his neck. And then there's also there's broken lead among fingers the top some of the bigger both hands. Like he was.

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"roberto clemente bridge" Discussed on NewsRadio KFBK

NewsRadio KFBK

01:53 min | 2 years ago

"roberto clemente bridge" Discussed on NewsRadio KFBK

"Is that they have surveillance video. They see him like eleven forty nine pm walking across this plaza in downtown, Pittsburgh, and he's fine. He's not staggering. He's not walking straight line. When Shelly said when she picked him up. He wasn't drunk. He didn't seem inebriated anything. He wasn't slurring and anything terrified findings like texting or doing something with this phone just walking across and he seems fine. And then he just walks down. This alley. I guess the last shot of got was he gonna leave against the wall. I second. And then the cameras at the other end of the alley have water in. They couldn't catch him, and then either could've gone left and then gone right over the Roberto Clemente bridge to go home, but the cameras didn't capture him doing that you should finished. You know, the there's that other piece there too in your story where he told her that he had on the initial case when he called her scared said come pick me up disoriented where he was he said that he? He had already spoken to police officer in the cockpit blown them off. Yeah. That's what he said. He said, I've tried to have the cops the cops will help me. And you know, I tried to ask all these questions. I did ask all these questions of the Pittsburgh cops the DA's office Emmys office, they were very rude. Very dismissive. And you've got an answer you can keep asking questions all you want. But you've got our answer. Treat a reporter like that. I can imagine how badly they treat the families on March sixth two thousand seventeen forty days after Dakota James disappeared. Roughly nine weeks after the original call to his friend a woman walking her dog saw his body floating in the Ohio river ten miles from where he was last seen downtown. Right. Another thirty feet offshore which isn't that far ruled an accidental drowning. Yep. That's what they ruled it even though there's no.

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