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"robert sylvester" Discussed on The Corner

The Corner

07:22 min | 5 months ago

"robert sylvester" Discussed on The Corner

"But we're on mount rushmore. Marvin marvin a little bit. Above steve like mike marvin than steamy on my list. I can bump stevia ahead of marvin like it's not too crazy but if we're taking everything to account grant we only got four spots does he. Who must not be named no deserve consideration. No over lewis. I won't put generation roberts investor. Kelly was great. Rb artists right but robert sylvester. Kelly's not been smokey robinson smokey's not on this list and not on my list. He's luther vandross now. You can't see like luther. An r kelly can sing. Luther luther luther luther come on bro. There's just no way so listen. You can talk like arches. R kelly comes into the scope when you count everything that's on when you count everything no writing man he did with mister bigs in the whole crew and rightist lee of the no decade feature do liquidity the two thousand. Here's who else. I've left off this list. Sam cooke al green. James brown are coming fucking. Sure james count. She is about this. James brown he was of soul godmother's soul come on man arby's rhythm and blues cut it out like this james brown. He's he's going. I didn't know how far we are going back. Because james is like sixties right. So you got james and i mean stevie delete sixty. Okay dude bill withers arguing fucked with bill withers. Kelly got hit. Listen he does or deep. Now we're going to look. He's got hits. I'm not trying to say he's not top ten. You keep naming people. I'm saying arles ray on. He's not on this. He's not on this mountain rushmore. He's not in this consideration. If i can't if i'm not putting al green on this list are kelly's not on this list. If i'm not putting lutheran here. I can't sit archea. So he's not being considered for the mount rushmore. Is he one of the greatest. Rb like begrudgingly. Yes right like roman. Polanski is a filmmaker woody. Allen is a filmmaker yes okay. They did some things and then they did some foul shit to but no man. I'm totally comfortable. Like not having to consider r kelly. Top four is incredible utah. Four deep is hard to crack the top. Four but curtis mayfield courtesy and on this list. I'm just talking about. I'm just on all the people like when you talk about art kelly. I'm thinking about all the people lanell ritchie like i'm okay with not considering robert sylvester. Kelly lack all right. I mean again if you go ninety ninety on thirty years. There's no better than him. The best thirty years. So you're telling me no one in the past. Thirty years is opt-in See you say the past thirty years right. But i put on. I'll put baby face over r kelly. You're bugging their. Yep really up. Yeah now now we have gone too far really that ass okay. So let's talk about it. Our kelly right. Let's talk. let's let's talk about this. Real quick r kelly when we talk about the body of the work he had twelve play. He had self titled reloaded. Later yeah i mean. I thought you said total package. Total package think about what baby faces done. Art has writing credits to none. Other guys i know. What are we talking. I'm talking. we're talking about writing credit like when we're talking about baby face and like celine dion. Yes archea to has that too. We're talking about baby employs embossed men. We're talking about like baby doesn't have enough hits himself to compete before you get to the writing credit. Are you serious to compete. With roberts investor. Kelly really does not have enough. They kept to him. Let's be clear. R kelly when you're talking about this arm be stuff right. After two thousand kelly had like tons of hits to you may not not not in general because he had like rap singing stuff here wraps up but that was on. He had the whole best of both worlds album. On you liked it. I mean there's like okay. Good to good song. I was like six hundred and then after that we have what the esta step in the name of love. The he got he got hits out to that. After i'll say this. I say this factory had hits on not a great album overall. Thanks listen i will say that. There's a debate to be had between baby. Kelly there is no blow out here. I can see where you can say are. Kelly was a better Artists than baby face. I won't agree with it. But i can see man i can see it but i'm saying like appealing gets consideration. I don't. I don't know how many you know parents are. Your parents probably made you from whip appeal at some point or made some members like like baby face had joints. And yes i get it r. Kelly is you know he's had hits in yes. I can't help but think about him. Boning kids always. Yes but i'm not gonna just say the are. Kelly just blows out babies like. Do you remember the teddy riley in baby face fucking versus bay in our joint so here you go take this. Take this and everybody's like oh shit. I forgot he did that. Like getting the writing credits deep. It's just hit for hit you with you said total package. You didn't say just like solo hits. You back agreed. But i'm saying like r. Kelly has writing credits so it's not like he he can't do somewhat of what baby face can do. He's not on that level but he's not astronomically far behind his though. I consider the difference between baby face and our kelly to be when it comes to. Its listen as a front man. I think there's a large gap that that's fair. I mean that's you want to say here's one thing i will say though and this is not to. Locusts are kelly. There's nothing low. Well if we can't read who was he writing for. Which i don't know i don't know i know i did it. Don't ask me there was no spell. Check back then. Don't ask me how he did it. i'm assuming he just put it on wax and gave it to him so he didn't have to physically write shit down. I wasn't there. Was only r kelly his bodyguards and fourteen year old. So i know what happened in studio. It's horrible but for the sake of this conversation. Got to mention his name. And i'd be remiss mention sneaky person just someone. I like their listen. Can't put them in the top four. But someone i like and i gotta i mentioned rick james james..

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"robert sylvester" Discussed on KTRH

KTRH

03:43 min | 1 year ago

"robert sylvester" Discussed on KTRH

"Says the suspect who opened fire yesterday morning at the Naval Air Station Corpus Christi was shot to death a navy police officer was struck in the vest but was already released from the hospital by yesterday afternoon FBI senior I. agent Leah grieve says that the they believe the attack was terrorism related so we may have a potential second related person of interest at large in the community but we would encourage the public to remain calm the FBI says the public is not in any danger Houston city parks will be open this Memorial Day weekend Robert Sylvester Turner says other summertime traditions will remain closed because of the health crisis this year I've asked parks and recreation director Steve right to keep the swimming pool was closed for now as we evaluate the progression of this virus and look at the data the city also will not open twenty seven splash pad pads located in some of our city parks at this time there Turner says it's impossible to enforce social distancing at public pools meanwhile the city will place monitors at city parks to remind people of social distancing all patients residents in Stafford Texas run psychiatric hospitals and living centers will be tested for corona virus governor Greg Abbott telling the Texas health and Human Services commission yesterday they need to expand testing to limit the potential for a hot spots the facilities were previously told to only test those exhibiting corona virus like symptoms usually selling copter pilot cheese co mayor facing a long road to recovery is wife Brooke telling KPRC nine fifties Kate Webster but her husband is internal injuries on top of a broken back which severed nerves in his feet every day taking it day by day and we're just glad that he's here with us only time can tell if it'll ever be able to walk again you know like what right now is definitely gonna be in a wheelchair probably for a couple of years the two nearest is the worst part is not being able to visit with him in person because the social distancing orders chase Cormier is it is partner Jason Knox crashed while patrolling for a possible homicide knocks the scent of Houston city councilman Mike Knox died in the crash he Terry Jennings timed out three oh three well NASA is another step closer to its historic bad space launch from the Cape the SpaceX falcon nine rocket and crew dragon capsule were raised into position Thursday morning at the Kennedy space center's Launch Complex thirty nine AA astronauts Bob Behnken and Doug Hurley have already arrived ahead of next week's launch to the international space station the mission will mark the first time astronauts have launched from U. S. soil since twenty eleven Wednesday's left office slated for four thirty three PM eastern that's Recco shell reporting students will return to campus of the university of Texas in Austin this fall the fall semester will begin as scheduled on August twenty sixth at UT and classes will run until thanksgiving students will then not return after the thanksgiving break but instead will participate in reading days and final exams remotely with over nineteen still expected to be active this fall university officials hope to avoid the possibility of students becoming infected during the thanksgiving break and then spreading the virus to classmates if they were to return that was Brian gan reporting from San Antonio gas prices up another six cents in Texas triple a says the statewide average for a gallon of unleaded is a Buck sixty the cheapest going into Memorial Day weekend since two thousand three trouble latex is also notes most people appear to be passing on traveling this weekend due to the corona virus pandemic they still expect some gas spikes in the coming weeks the station switch from winter blends to gas winter blend gas to summer blend gas product updates at three thirty breaking info as it happens time now for more coast to coast AM Aymeric sharp newsradio seven forty KTRE H..

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"robert sylvester" Discussed on The Corner

The Corner

12:25 min | 1 year ago

"robert sylvester" Discussed on The Corner

"Of course we're kicking off our shows with the boxing show and covered a ton of boxing over the weekend. Dan Dreyer but before we dive into the sweet science. We have to talk about some foolery and I feel like like this is deja Vu. Might be groundhogs day because I looked at your time line today and there's still people defending Robert Sylvester Kelly. You gotta say his name is full man. He's a criminal. Roberts vested Kelly. Yeah I mean. We're recording this. So in somebody on my time line said that I don't like I'm condemning. Robertson Visser Kelly and I don't have the same energy for Sergei Kovalyov in the things that he done. What we how do you compare? Air Are Kelly who has had thirty years of defiling minors peeing on them in various other things because the other thing they don't talk about it it's like the abuse and everything else which I'm sure we're about talking about this documentary. How do you compare him? To Sergei Kovalev. Sergei did will allegedly legal term. Her was wrong. Do something about Oscar de la Hoya. Yeah that's that's wrong but compared Kelly to be clear I've written about what Cola Ovallis did the de la Hoya stuff has been allegations. And nothing's really stuck. Do because your work zone. No has nothing to do with that. Those allegations like two years old and allegedly somebody get cleaned up. I don't know what's going to ask him the Robertson Kelly desk guy them criminal. It's like the episode of the Boondocks Won. The boondocks is about to be raised to Simpson's level of accuracy. Way Ahead of its time. Everything is coming true true but I can't. It's like people want to give the guy out and this guy isn't necessarily guy in time specifically isn't necessarily saying like Joe he didn't do it or he's not a horrible person but yet he's like so. Why don't you talk about this? That's the weakest defense ever ever Nike. Oh they're wrong. But why aren't you talking about the million other people who were wrong. Shut up they're all wrong. I feel like talking about this. One problem solved and end of your discussion discussion. There's nothing after that yet. They're all wrong. They're probably all fucked up. You know what they're all allegations are all everything I can judge however I WANNA judge. They're all all kind of fucking weird but you know what this guy takes the cake. It's okay to have varying degrees of stuff. And he is the highest level of asshole. That's why I don't know why this guy is keeping up for him and especially leap especially on a week where we got hit with part two of the documentary and it might be even worse than the first one man that you know what I watched that part too and I was like whenever I was like. Why are they doing the part to do? We really need a part two and I know Dream Hampton a speaking tour there a long time ago. She's been very strong about the subject. Dick like when I speak to two thousand ten. So I've known for a long time and we have taught in a while but I know when when this came to fruition I was like Yo because people are actually doing it for the money. I'm like now dream is serious about this stuff so there was a party to. I was still like man did. Did they say you have to do this to get more money. Like I was trying to figure out why what else needs to be told then I watched it and I was like yeah. This is bad this is this is bad. Like like apartment was bad enough but then part to dig into the thirty year history of it and goes through the victims and then kind of brings you up to speed and again like the one thing they never really talk about girls and we talk about we talk about it the sauna video and talk about the parents but we don't talk as much about the physical violence that r Kelly with with these young girls and he was beating them up emotionally and physically. Like this is a monster and people were like allegedly. Listen I know a little bit about this Moore about this some people because I've had people in Chicago who have told me a lot of these stories and the these people knew each other but had similar stories about ARCHAEA pulling up to high schools are Kelli Dayton. Their cousin arket like just different stories. And I'm like with a smoke this fire and especially with this thirty years of smoking. Got A fire. This was rough. It was rough to watch a hairdresser story. That was awful. Oh that was the worse with the ponytails. I don't understand it and this it's weird because I watched documentaries right and I like the you know making a murder things in can't I can't wait for their Aaron Hernandez One and these are two degree meant to give you a glimpse into the mind of these messed up people all the more Wash Art Kelly documentary the more confused I get by what. Actually his problem is the man is a horrible human in being on my eighteen. Different levels I it was children. Now it's damn near any woman put around him. He messed up and beat up his wife. He did so many different things. Like how can you go so raw. His boys were on or his brothers. Were on camera saying he was secretly filming them. Thank you it was a joke crazy. There're so many deep levels of he was too so fucked up in so many facets that my mind was exploding. I don't don't only thing. He's good at singing everything else. He's a horrible person in every other measure of life you know. He's even terribly songwriter. Have you heard zoo sex. Like he's made some people talk about are killing all the great songs he's made but if you go through the last fifteen years of his music there's some really really crazy saw out there and he writes like a child but you know what I almost forgot about like him talking about his brothers and his brothers talking and his brother was like take the offer. Me and I'll buy you a car yell you want. Want me to do like federal charges and take the fall for you and then you go. Buy me a car that I have to drive when I get out of prison which might be never dog. What Kinda Shit is eh bogging? The crazy thing about is like people like Oh these girls live show. I'm sorry man I can't imagine all these women and lion all of them again. It's not like one or two three or four. It's not even five or six. It's like this is like Lebron when he gave the speech when he went to the heat not one not two not three. This is like nineteen. There's so many different girls that are now women. I do not all online late. There may May this always. Maybe an ally could be like one or two. That weren't as they weren't even in the middle of whatever the hairdresser it's possible that one or a to align but to say like seventeen to twenty subjects are lying. Why own? Oh Yeah No. I didn't mean the hairdresser was lying. I thought you're saying outlier like you know like she's old story seeing the gym but yeah no maybe a couple of 'em alliance. Maybe a couple of them want some clout right. It could be some embellishment but coming. I'm nick and you know what I'm not even GonNa hold that against them because I know a few people and I'm not comparing you know situation situations but I know a few people that have been. I'm in victims of assault sexually or whatever growing up and when they were children. And you know what some of the shit they don't remember. Some stuff is a bit fuzzy. That's what happens when someone abuses you for a long period of time. You know the minute details might get a little mixed around. You think it's a Tuesday. That shit was Israeli Friday through Sunday. The these things happen so I'm not even blaming the PM on a documentary about that like everything doesn't have to be spot on but you know what normal human beings aren't accused by fifty women of doing something not even like bill cosby people go. It's too many women. Notice not too many women again. This could be like one two three. I want the clout or they embellished the story a little bit but one. It's like this Legion of women coming out and saying things a certain point you just like fuck because that like Arkady has never really denied this I mean there is a marriage certificate with Leah. You can't deny that there is like the girl was underage in the video. You can't deny that you can't these things you can't deny like the may be able to argue like physical abuse and be like well. Oh I didn't kicker and snap Ed. You kick their ass and the the emotional tax and then like the new girls that were that that were living at the trump tower hour and a couple of them live in a couple of them have it man. I Dunno these documentaries. I'll say this they were there. Well done first of all from viewing perspective there well done and they were engaging and they have so much information. Because it's just not it's not like the finding Neverland documentary. Michael Jackson one wishes to dudes telling their story and is really really like no corroboration of their time line like there was a lot of research done for these these documentaries and oh man like somebody told me today that I was on was ignorant for believing the scripted documentary script the documentary. What woman Yana to start? What does he want them to go on snapchat until this whole story man? I don't know I'm I'm flabbergasted because it's like y'all why do you invest so much in defending our Kelly at a certain point. It's just like I'm good. I defended this. No more their the music that good. Now let's be real will he ain't cut you a check in the music game that good i. Everyone likes step in the name of love. You know everyone likes an occasional best of both worlds with Jay Z.. We get you but it ain't that good where you got to defend him tooth and nail like his brother stopped defending him. I think it's okay kick. I mean again too so the other thing is I don't know us all a lot of it. Like a lot of blame went to the parents write some. Yes so they sold out the kids and all that I have an opinion because I think it kind of goes both ways because a lot of people blame parents that don't have kids right and some of these kids grown home grown in the sense that you know they were like sixteen and they were making their own decisions and I think a lot of people know when you're a teenager you're kind of hard to really but there's a period of suits steel reel them in so I think it's hard to place one hundred percent blame but I think the bigger issue is as a parent Ma. My daughter comes to me as I am going. R Kelly Cancer. That's it no no we we get that far. That's my biggest blame on the parents. This is like I'm going to our and then she's like daddy where I'm like handcuffed to the radiator. The y'all call that of us but my child will not be going to an R Kelly concert. Never they'll never this dog not doing that. We're not there was multiple signs and I agree with you. It's not their fault but there is some parts of the where they probably let it get too far and couldn't really back in Berlin and Kelly concert. Yeah and then when the girl was like oh well yeah you know our Kelly thought I could really sing. And they're like oh where the hairdressers family was like. Oh She's doing r Kelly's hair look at. She made it note. Oh Stop Nope. I'd rather be broke. I don't care about fame that much. Nope your voice is beautiful thing for someone else eventually. They have to realize that you know what they let it go a little too far and got away from them but to three years without hearing from your child. I don't care she. Nineteen twenty twenty one twenty two three years now. No not when I know where you live. I'm catching a kidnapping charge. That's 'cause I'm knocking down your door. Taking U R Kelly got. Shoot me at this point because any I ain't gonNA hurt that man..

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"robert sylvester" Discussed on The Corner

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12:19 min | 1 year ago

"robert sylvester" Discussed on The Corner

"Of course we're kicking off our shows with the boxing show and covered a ton of boxing over the weekend. Dan Dreyer but before we dive into the sweet science. We have to talk about some foolery and I feel like like this is deja Vu. Might be groundhogs day because I looked at your time line today and there's still people defending Robert Sylvester Kelly. You gotta say his name is full man. He's a criminal. Roberts vested Kelly. Yeah I mean. We're recording this. So in somebody on my time line said that I don't like I'm condemning. Robertson Visser Kelly and I don't have the same energy for Sergei Kovalyov in the things that he done. What we how do you compare? Air Are Kelly who has had thirty years of defiling minors peeing on them in various other things because the other thing they don't talk about it it's like the abuse and everything else which I'm sure we're about talking about this documentary. How do you compare him? To Sergei Kovalev. Sergei did will allegedly legal term. Her was wrong. Do something about Oscar de la Hoya. Yeah that's that's wrong but compared Kelly to be clear I've written about what Cola Ovallis did the de la Hoya stuff has been allegations. And nothing's really stuck. Do because your work zone. No has nothing to do with that. Those allegations like two years old and allegedly somebody get cleaned up. I don't know what's going to ask him the Robertson Kelly desk guy them criminal. It's like the episode of the Boondocks Won. The boondocks is about to be raised to Simpson's level of accuracy. Way Ahead of its time. Everything is coming true true but I can't. It's like people want to give the guy out and this guy isn't necessarily guy in time specifically isn't necessarily saying like Joe he didn't do it or he's not a horrible person but yet he's like so. Why don't you talk about this? That's the weakest defense ever ever Nike. Oh they're wrong. But why aren't you talking about the million other people who were wrong. Shut up they're all wrong. I feel like talking about this. One problem solved and end of your discussion discussion. There's nothing after that yet. They're all wrong. They're probably all fucked up. You know what they're all allegations are all everything I can judge however I WANNA judge. They're all all kind of fucking weird but you know what this guy takes the cake. It's okay to have varying degrees of stuff. And he is the highest level of asshole. That's why I don't know why this guy is keeping up for him and especially leap especially on a week where we got hit with part two of the documentary and it might be even worse than the first one man that you know what I watched that part too and I was like whenever I was like. Why are they doing the part to do? We really need a part two and I know Dream Hampton a speaking tour there a long time ago. She's been very strong about the subject. Dick like when I speak to two thousand ten. So I've known for a long time and we have taught in a while but I know when when this came to fruition I was like Yo because people are actually doing it for the money. I'm like now dream is serious about this stuff so there was a party to. I was still like man did. Did they say you have to do this to get more money. Like I was trying to figure out why what else needs to be told then I watched it and I was like yeah. This is bad this is this is bad. Like like apartment was bad enough but then part to dig into the thirty year history of it and goes through the victims and then kind of brings you up to speed and again like the one thing they never really talk about girls and we talk about we talk about it the sauna video and talk about the parents but we don't talk as much about the physical violence that r Kelly with with these young girls and he was beating them up emotionally and physically. Like this is a monster and people were like allegedly. Listen I know a little bit about this Moore about this some people because I've had people in Chicago who have told me a lot of these stories and the these people knew each other but had similar stories about ARCHAEA pulling up to high schools are Kelli Dayton. Their cousin arket like just different stories. And I'm like with a smoke this fire and especially with this thirty years of smoking. Got A fire. This was rough. It was rough to watch a hairdresser story. That was awful. Oh that was the worse with the ponytails. I don't understand it and this it's weird because I watched documentaries right and I like the you know making a murder things in can't I can't wait for their Aaron Hernandez One and these are two degree meant to give you a glimpse into the mind of these messed up people all the more Wash Art Kelly documentary the more confused I get by what. Actually his problem is the man is a horrible human in being on my eighteen. Different levels I it was children. Now it's damn near any woman put around him. He messed up and beat up his wife. He did so many different things. Like how can you go so raw. His boys were on or his brothers. Were on camera saying he was secretly filming them. Thank you it was a joke crazy. There're so many deep levels of he was too so fucked up in so many facets that my mind was exploding. I don't don't only thing. He's good at singing everything else. He's a horrible person in every other measure of life you know. He's even terribly songwriter. Have you heard zoo sex. Like he's made some people talk about are killing all the great songs he's made but if you go through the last fifteen years of his music there's some really really crazy saw out there and he writes like a child but you know what I almost forgot about like him talking about his brothers and his brothers talking and his brother was like take the offer. Me and I'll buy you a car yell you want. Want me to do like federal charges and take the fall for you and then you go. Buy me a car that I have to drive when I get out of prison which might be never dog. What Kinda Shit is eh bogging? The crazy thing about is like people like Oh these girls live show. I'm sorry man I can't imagine all these women and lion all of them again. It's not like one or two three or four. It's not even five or six. It's like this is like Lebron when he gave the speech when he went to the heat not one not two not three. This is like nineteen. There's so many different girls that are now women. I do not all online late. There may May this always. Maybe an ally could be like one or two. That weren't as they weren't even in the middle of whatever the hairdresser it's possible that one or a to align but to say like seventeen to twenty subjects are lying. Why own? Oh Yeah No. I didn't mean the hairdresser was lying. I thought you're saying outlier like you know like she's old story seeing the gym but yeah no maybe a couple of 'em alliance. Maybe a couple of them want some clout right. It could be some embellishment but coming. I'm nick and you know what I'm not even GonNa hold that against them because I know a few people and I'm not comparing you know situation situations but I know a few people that have been. I'm in victims of assault sexually or whatever growing up and when they were children. And you know what some of the shit they don't remember. Some stuff is a bit fuzzy. That's what happens when someone abuses you for a long period of time. You know the minute details might get a little mixed around. You think it's a Tuesday. That shit was Israeli Friday through Sunday. The these things happen so I'm not even blaming the PM on a documentary about that like everything doesn't have to be spot on but you know what normal human beings aren't accused by fifty women of doing something not even like bill cosby people go. It's too many women. Notice not too many women again. This could be like one two three. I want the clout or they embellished the story a little bit but one. It's like this Legion of women coming out and saying things a certain point you just like fuck because that like Arkady has never really denied this I mean there is a marriage certificate with Leah. You can't deny that there is like the girl was underage in the video. You can't deny that you can't these things you can't deny like the may be able to argue like physical abuse and be like well. Oh I didn't kicker and snap Ed. You kick their ass and the the emotional tax and then like the new girls that were that that were living at the trump tower hour and a couple of them live in a couple of them have it man. I Dunno these documentaries. I'll say this they were there. Well done first of all from viewing perspective there well done and they were engaging and they have so much information. Because it's just not it's not like the finding Neverland documentary. Michael Jackson one wishes to dudes telling their story and is really really like no corroboration of their time line like there was a lot of research done for these these documentaries and oh man like somebody told me today that I was on was ignorant for believing the scripted documentary script the documentary. What woman Yana to start? What does he want them to go on snapchat until this whole story man? I don't know I'm I'm flabbergasted because it's like y'all why do you invest so much in defending our Kelly at a certain point. It's just like I'm good. I defended this. No more their the music that good. Now let's be real will he ain't cut you a check in the music game that good i. Everyone likes step in the name of love. You know everyone likes an occasional best of both worlds with Jay Z.. We get you but it ain't that good where you got to defend him tooth and nail like his brother stopped defending him. I think it's okay kick. I mean again too so the other thing is I don't know us all a lot of it. Like a lot of blame went to the parents write some. Yes so they sold out the kids and all that I have an opinion because I think it kind of goes both ways because a lot of people blame parents that don't have kids right and some of these kids grown home grown in the sense that you know they were like sixteen and they were making their own decisions and I think a lot of people know when you're a teenager you're kind of hard to really but there's a period of suits steel reel them in so I think it's hard to place one hundred percent blame but I think the bigger issue is as a parent Ma. My daughter comes to me as I am going. R Kelly Cancer. That's it no no we we get that far. That's my biggest blame on the parents. This is like I'm going to our and then she's like daddy where I'm like handcuffed to the radiator. The y'all call that of us but my child will not be going to an R Kelly concert. Never they'll never this dog not doing that. We're not there was multiple signs and I agree with you. It's not their fault but there is some parts of the where they probably let it get too far and couldn't really back in Berlin and Kelly concert. Yeah and then when the girl was like oh well yeah you know our Kelly thought I could really sing. And they're like oh where the hairdressers family was like. Oh She's doing r Kelly's hair look at. She made it note. Oh Stop Nope. I'd rather be broke. I don't care about fame that much. Nope your voice is beautiful thing for someone else eventually. They have to realize that you know what they let it go a little too far and got away from them but to three years without hearing from your child. I don't care she. Nineteen twenty twenty one twenty two three years now. No not when I know where you live. I'm catching a kidnapping charge. That's 'cause I'm knocking down your door. Taking U R Kelly got..

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"robert sylvester" Discussed on The Corner

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12:17 min | 1 year ago

"robert sylvester" Discussed on The Corner

"Of course we're kicking off our shows with the boxing show and covered a ton of boxing over the weekend. Dan Dreyer but before we dive into the sweet science. We have to talk about some foolery and I feel like like this is deja Vu. Might be groundhogs day because I looked at your time line today and there's still people defending Robert Sylvester Kelly. You gotta say his name is full man. He's a criminal. Roberts vested Kelly. Yeah I mean. We're recording this. So in somebody on my time line said that I don't like I'm condemning. Robertson Visser Kelly and I don't have the same energy for Sergei Kovalyov in the things that he done. What we how do you compare? Air Are Kelly who has had thirty years of defiling minors peeing on them in various other things because the other thing they don't talk about it it's like the abuse and everything else which I'm sure we're about talking about this documentary. How do you compare him? To Sergei Kovalev. Sergei did will allegedly legal term. Her was wrong. Do something about Oscar de la Hoya. Yeah that's that's wrong but compared Kelly to be clear I've written about what Cola Ovallis did the de la Hoya stuff has been allegations. And nothing's really stuck. Do because your work zone. No has nothing to do with that. Those allegations like two years old and allegedly somebody get cleaned up. I don't know what's going to ask him the Robertson Kelly desk guy them criminal. It's like the episode of the Boondocks Won. The boondocks is about to be raised to Simpson's level of accuracy. Way Ahead of its time. Everything is coming true true but I can't. It's like people want to give the guy out and this guy isn't necessarily guy in time specifically isn't necessarily saying like Joe he didn't do it or he's not a horrible person but yet he's like so. Why don't you talk about this? That's the weakest defense ever ever Nike. Oh they're wrong. But why aren't you talking about the million other people who were wrong. Shut up they're all wrong. I feel like talking about this. One problem solved and end of your discussion discussion. There's nothing after that yet. They're all wrong. They're probably all fucked up. You know what they're all allegations are all everything I can judge however I WANNA judge. They're all all kind of fucking weird but you know what this guy takes the cake. It's okay to have varying degrees of stuff. And he is the highest level of asshole. That's why I don't know why this guy is keeping up for him and especially leap especially on a week where we got hit with part two of the documentary and it might be even worse than the first one man that you know what I watched that part too and I was like whenever I was like. Why are they doing the part to do? We really need a part two and I know Dream Hampton a speaking tour there a long time ago. She's been very strong about the subject. Dick like when I speak to two thousand ten. So I've known for a long time and we have taught in a while but I know when when this came to fruition I was like Yo because people are actually doing it for the money. I'm like now dream is serious about this stuff so there was a party to. I was still like man did. Did they say you have to do this to get more money. Like I was trying to figure out why what else needs to be told then I watched it and I was like yeah. This is bad this is this is bad. Like like apartment was bad enough but then part to dig into the thirty year history of it and goes through the victims and then kind of brings you up to speed and again like the one thing they never really talk about girls and we talk about we talk about it the sauna video and talk about the parents but we don't talk as much about the physical violence that r Kelly with with these young girls and he was beating them up emotionally and physically. Like this is a monster and people were like allegedly. Listen I know a little bit about this Moore about this some people because I've had people in Chicago who have told me a lot of these stories and the these people knew each other but had similar stories about ARCHAEA pulling up to high schools are Kelli Dayton. Their cousin arket like just different stories. And I'm like with a smoke this fire and especially with this thirty years of smoking. Got A fire. This was rough. It was rough to watch a hairdresser story. That was awful. Oh that was the worse with the ponytails. I don't understand it and this it's weird because I watched documentaries right and I like the you know making a murder things in can't I can't wait for their Aaron Hernandez One and these are two degree meant to give you a glimpse into the mind of these messed up people all the more Wash Art Kelly documentary the more confused I get by what. Actually his problem is the man is a horrible human in being on my eighteen. Different levels I it was children. Now it's damn near any woman put around him. He messed up and beat up his wife. He did so many different things. Like how can you go so raw. His boys were on or his brothers. Were on camera saying he was secretly filming them. Thank you it was a joke crazy. There're so many deep levels of he was too so fucked up in so many facets that my mind was exploding. I don't don't only thing. He's good at singing everything else. He's a horrible person in every other measure of life you know. He's even terribly songwriter. Have you heard zoo sex. Like he's made some people talk about are killing all the great songs he's made but if you go through the last fifteen years of his music there's some really really crazy saw out there and he writes like a child but you know what I almost forgot about like him talking about his brothers and his brothers talking and his brother was like take the offer. Me and I'll buy you a car yell you want. Want me to do like federal charges and take the fall for you and then you go. Buy me a car that I have to drive when I get out of prison which might be never dog. What Kinda Shit is eh bogging? The crazy thing about is like people like Oh these girls live show. I'm sorry man I can't imagine all these women and lion all of them again. It's not like one or two three or four. It's not even five or six. It's like this is like Lebron when he gave the speech when he went to the heat not one not two not three. This is like nineteen. There's so many different girls that are now women. I do not all online late. There may May this always. Maybe an ally could be like one or two. That weren't as they weren't even in the middle of whatever the hairdresser it's possible that one or a to align but to say like seventeen to twenty subjects are lying. Why own? Oh Yeah No. I didn't mean the hairdresser was lying. I thought you're saying outlier like you know like she's old story seeing the gym but yeah no maybe a couple of 'em alliance. Maybe a couple of them want some clout right. It could be some embellishment but coming. I'm nick and you know what I'm not even GonNa hold that against them because I know a few people and I'm not comparing you know situation situations but I know a few people that have been. I'm in victims of assault sexually or whatever growing up and when they were children. And you know what some of the shit they don't remember. Some stuff is a bit fuzzy. That's what happens when someone abuses you for a long period of time. You know the minute details might get a little mixed around. You think it's a Tuesday. That shit was Israeli Friday through Sunday. The these things happen so I'm not even blaming the PM on a documentary about that like everything doesn't have to be spot on but you know what normal human beings aren't accused by fifty women of doing something not even like bill cosby people go. It's too many women. Notice not too many women again. This could be like one two three. I want the clout or they embellished the story a little bit but one. It's like this Legion of women coming out and saying things a certain point you just like fuck because that like Arkady has never really denied this I mean there is a marriage certificate with Leah. You can't deny that there is like the girl was underage in the video. You can't deny that you can't these things you can't deny like the may be able to argue like physical abuse and be like well. Oh I didn't kicker and snap Ed. You kick their ass and the the emotional tax and then like the new girls that were that that were living at the trump tower hour and a couple of them live in a couple of them have it man. I Dunno these documentaries. I'll say this they were there. Well done first of all from viewing perspective there well done and they were engaging and they have so much information. Because it's just not it's not like the finding Neverland documentary. Michael Jackson one wishes to dudes telling their story and is really really like no corroboration of their time line like there was a lot of research done for these these documentaries and oh man like somebody told me today that I was on was ignorant for believing the scripted documentary script the documentary. What woman Yana to start? What does he want them to go on snapchat until this whole story man? I don't know I'm I'm flabbergasted because it's like y'all why do you invest so much in defending our Kelly at a certain point. It's just like I'm good. I defended this. No more their the music that good. Now let's be real will he ain't cut you a check in the music game that good i. Everyone likes step in the name of love. You know everyone likes an occasional best of both worlds with Jay Z.. We get you but it ain't that good where you got to defend him tooth and nail like his brother stopped defending him. I think it's okay kick. I mean again too so the other thing is I don't know us all a lot of it. Like a lot of blame went to the parents write some. Yes so they sold out the kids and all that I have an opinion because I think it kind of goes both ways because a lot of people blame parents that don't have kids right and some of these kids grown home grown in the sense that you know they were like sixteen and they were making their own decisions and I think a lot of people know when you're a teenager you're kind of hard to really but there's a period of suits steel reel them in so I think it's hard to place one hundred percent blame but I think the bigger issue is as a parent Ma. My daughter comes to me as I am going. R Kelly Cancer. That's it no no we we get that far. That's my biggest blame on the parents. This is like I'm going to our and then she's like daddy where I'm like handcuffed to the radiator. The y'all call that of us but my child will not be going to an R Kelly concert. Never they'll never this dog not doing that. We're not there was multiple signs and I agree with you. It's not their fault but there is some parts of the where they probably let it get too far and couldn't really back in Berlin and Kelly concert. Yeah and then when the girl was like oh well yeah you know our Kelly thought I could really sing. And they're like oh where the hairdressers family was like. Oh She's doing r Kelly's hair look at. She made it note. Oh Stop Nope. I'd rather be broke. I don't care about fame that much. Nope your voice is beautiful thing for someone else eventually. They have to realize that you know what they let it go a little too far and got away from them but to three years without hearing from your child. I don't care she. Nineteen twenty twenty one twenty two three years now. No not when I know where you live. I'm catching a kidnapping charge. That's 'cause I'm knocking down your door..

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"robert sylvester" Discussed on KZSC 88.1 FM Santa Cruz

KZSC 88.1 FM Santa Cruz

14:51 min | 1 year ago

"robert sylvester" Discussed on KZSC 88.1 FM Santa Cruz

"Well Robert Sylvester. the first story tonight well interestingly this is out of the U. K. coverage of a U. S. events but sometimes they have an interesting perspective on things yes us pretty cool and worth mentioning this being the fall and for many universities in the United States that means football seizure well rice university's. arching band. old an anti LGBT university with a vibrant pride flag filled the halftime number complete with the village people's Y. M. C. A. K.. rice was playing Baylor University a private Christian college in Texas which has for eight years refused to recognize a student group for L. G. B. T. plus students. according to the university administrators quote homosexual acts are not permitted on school premises. so when the Rice University marching band al's paraded onto the grassy stadium field in Houston waving around seventy L. G. B. T. plus nine binary trans by and pansexual pride flags at a football game between the two schools well you know the crowd both sides the crowd actually broke into thunderous cheers see the land I. alike were involved. in the display follow a Star Wars inspired arc that sob mascots battle it out before breaking into dance I love the the Star Wars kind a crossover. marching bands gonna do what they're going to do right. so let's see originally the marching band group planned for a dedicated Star Wars themed halftime number but after learning about Baylor and their denial of the L. G. B. T. students group and their own go and fight there they decided to take action Chad fish the spokesman for the band told the Houston Chronicle quote we just think that's kind of ridiculous and so we all got to our show writing meeting Sunday and we're like oh my gosh this is like exactly what our show needs to be about we absolutely need to call Baylor out for this and from there it just sort of happened the idea gained traction around campus leading to thirty people flagging their interests and over seventy flags being donated that's pretty cool while. the halftime show saw rice's mascot samiti I'll be a Chad I on the light side that would battle Baylor's Darkside mascot and a representative of the university's administration. a Baylor spokeswoman confirmed to the paper Houston Chronicle that on that earlier this month for the college's administration inclined to officially recognize the charter for gamma alpha up salon which is the okay well gamma alpha of salon is gay in Greek land right right that's. the name of the organization. of. so yeah that that's pretty cool that such light was thrown upon the situation in a in a big way. well it's it's college football time you know right he's but what I love is and I'm a little you know biased towards marching being debated at and marching band culture and whatnot so I I just love that they get together to you go okay and what are we going to do let's write this and it goes from like Star Wars to this Haiti had to Baylor University they're the ones who won't let the gays we get a. publicly and meet together and stuff like that so yeah it now from Y. M. C. A. two light sabre battle to. you know marching bands are gonna do it marching bands are going to do right the cella good job yeah circle yes. well let's see not so good news but still important this last week Ben Carson the housing in urban development secretary. of the president's cabinet. made some dismissive comments about trans gendered people according to The Washington Post he apparently he called them quote big hairy men trying to infiltrate women's homeless shelters during an internal meeting which. according to three people present who interpreted the boxes in attack on transgender women. well yeah this was while visiting heard San Francisco office this week. Carson also lamented that society no longer seem to know the difference between men and women. maybe he's just confused how bout that writes the remarks visibly shocked and upset many of the roughly fifty had staffers who attended last Tuesday's meeting and the prompt release woman to walk out in protest according this offers course Carson has a history of making dismissive comments about transgender people while running for president he referred to transgender people as quote abnormal and said they should not be in the military and has had secretary he has weakened Obama era protections for transgender people saying he believes in equal rights not quote special rights. you might also recall back in may the agency introduced a proposal that would allow federally funded shelters to deny people admission on religious grounds or force transgender women to share bathrooms and sleeping quarters with men. Carson is also address the proposed change using different terms in public most notably during congressional hearings. when he said his responsibility is to quote make sure everybody is treated fairly but he's repeatedly mocks trance ginger people in an internal meetings in Washington according to a government official who spoke on condition of anonymity. the official said quote his overall tone is dismissive and joking about these people it's disrespectful of the people were trying to serve. asked to respond to the detailed accounts of Carson's language in San Francisco and Washington had senior official released a statement that said quote the secretary does not use derogatory language to refer to transient her vigils and reporting to the contrary is false. the official who do not want to be named because he was not present during the meeting said Carson was referring to men who pretend to the women to gain access to battered women's shelters and not singling out trans gender women as big hairy man. it's how many levels of gross is this. right. Gillian Branstetter the spokeswoman for the national center for transgender equality said quote it's greatly insulting to have the specter of violence from cisgender men used to restrict the rights of transgender people who are ordinarily the victims of that violence it's a mythical notion that policies that are inclusive of transgender people somehow pose a threat it's frankly despicable that such a harmful notion would be used by someone charged with facilitating programs meant to help people in need many of whom are trans gender. that the. yeah on an island and of course the. the follow end on this today was Elizabeth Warren's reaction to the situation. yeah not only Elizabeth Warren but also Julian Castro Cory Booker and camera Heris also have things to say but according to Elizabeth Warren transphobia has no place in the White House Warren had strong words for secretary of housing and urban development Ben Carson. after he did what Richard was just talking about according to The Washington Post he also claimed that trans people are trying to I'm someone underscore this that trans people are trying to infiltrate that's in quotes there women's homeless shelters but did not state for what purpose they would wish to do so. okay so yeah I have a you know. well continue then we can we can talk more about nine to infiltrate special spaces all right so Elizabeth Warren the Massachusetts senator suggested that someone with Carson's view point is not fit to lead the department of housing and urban development calling the comments unacceptable. as she said in a series of tweets quote trans women who experience homelessness are already disproportionately more likely to face violence if secretary Carson is not willing to do his job and protect all Americans experiencing a housing in security then he shouldn't have his job. unquote the in addition to facing elevated rates of discrimination and physical abuse transitive initials are twice as likely to be homeless as the average American and four times as likely to live under the poverty line according to two thousand fifteen survey from the national center for transgender equality thirty percent of trans people have been homeless at some point in their lives despite those realities Carson is routinely rolled back policies which seek to meet the needs of the US homeless population and protect them from discrimination at shelters. so Warren who is one of nearly two dozen people running for president as we all know. wasn't the only twenty twenty candidate was strong words for Carson Cory Booker told USA today the remarks were quote vile and disgusting. while camera Heris called them quote harmful to the LGBT Q. plus community and just down right cruel and quote and that was in a tweet. among the most pointed responses however came from Julian Castro Carson's predecessor in the hud office. with nearly twenty transgender people killed so far this year the former secretary under Barack Obama claimed it Carson's remarks only serve to further normalize violence against trans individuals. Castro tweeted quote as hud secretary I protected trans people I didn't denigrate them. and of course Carson saying he's being misunderstood. and their blatant mis characterizations of somebody saying by the media. and all those things but he said what he said and just more proof that he does not belong in that office yeah. well let's take a little spin around the world because I think this is a pretty cool story that I wanted to share with you. again this is big news out of the U. K. Luxembourg ex gay prime minister have air but tell. made an impassioned plea against hate speech in a historic you an address last week. course you may recall that trump was also at the United. recently but there were other things going on with you and not the least of which was have your **** tells speech rightly tell. this speech which is reportedly the first speech at the United Nations by an openly gay leader on LGBT plus rights called on other leaders to prevent freedom of expression from causing harm according to Reuters Patel said quote we are all part and we all have a responsibility this starts from your politicians but it goes all so to a family evening to dinner with friends with family if if if they have hate speech you connect now you can never accept it. elsewhere in his speech Patel said quote being gay is not a choice but not accepting it is a choice homophobia is a choice we have to fight against. this speech comes just weeks after the a prime minister was left standing alone at a press conference would UK prime minister Boris Johnson failed to make an appearance this kind of whole brexit deal was having tentacles. that meeting press conference thing did it happen. though of course Patel was there and waiting for Boris Johnson to show up so that he said that the chaos of brexit negotiations quote would not happen in Luxembourg don't put the blame on us because they don't know how to get out of this situation it's not my choice he said. so does the backs background here Exeter but tell as one of just three openly gay world leaders and it's been prime minister of.

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"robert sylvester" Discussed on WJR 760

WJR 760

01:30 min | 1 year ago

"robert sylvester" Discussed on WJR 760

"J. R. the first murder ever Michael here will be I was Steve Courtney as a matter of fact will probably world what Thursday news now but the bottom of the hour the el Paso community is rallying around the victims and families of Saturday's mass shooting at a local Walmart that left twenty two people dead and two dozen others heard correspondent Clayton Nevil reports funeral expense will be one less concern for families of those killed in the massacre funeral expenses are covered thanks to donations from funeral homes across el Paso several owners waving all costs we ever would have thought that this could have here at home our hearts are with the city of el Paso no surprise for this el Paso man who says he witnesses similar generosity every day in his hometown we're going to help each other that's how we are we'll give you the shirt off her back twenty two funerals to plan but for victims' families cost won't be an issue Clayton level el Paso Michigan governor Gretchen Witmer ordered US and Michigan flags be lowered to honor the victims of the weekend a mass shootings in el Paso and Dayton Widmer said the flag should be displayed at half staff on all state buildings grounds and facilities until sunset on Thursday Minnesota authorities charged singer R. Kelly whose full name is Robert Sylvester Kelly in a case involving a seventeen year old girl back in two thousand one happen in county attorney Mike.

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"robert sylvester" Discussed on The Tip Off

The Tip Off

14:45 min | 1 year ago

"robert sylvester" Discussed on The Tip Off

"February morning and Jim was working in his office so just finish transcribing the interview with Alicia keys and I wanted to be done as soon as possible for the day and the phone rings and I did that had Harry journalists thing got us all right and a deep baritone voice said go to your mailbox and the hung up so at the mailbox on the front stoop. Hoop and there was a Manila envelope unmarked and inside the Manila envelope was V._H._S. Cassette unmarked and I suspected what it was Jim and received a similar type before a tape showing Kelly having sex with a woman or girl that never managed to identify the night that tape had been dropped off his house. Someone is shot out the window of his living room so when you received this tape he was anxious. He ran upstairs. My daughter was at preschool at opt toy story two out of the V._C._R.. Says the only one in the House and twenty six minutes and thirty nine seconds of the most horrible thing I've seen in my life the video uh-huh showed r Kelly engaging in sexual contact with a girl that Jim and others believed to be his daughter. Her face was placid horizon dull in the video Kelly demands that she calls him daddy after the sexual contact he orders her to open up her mouth and then he urinate sin it later Jim sat with girls and a woman named sparkle as she watched the tape and confirm the girl in it was were Shawna her niece. The sparkle considered himself a friend of Kelley's but now she saw him in a whole New Light he has to stop. She told Jim have have been too many to count. Sparkle told Jim that she thought the way you were Sean was wearing her hair suggested that the tape was a few years old that she she looked about fourteen in it. Jim squinted at the screen at been filmed in a room with a hot tub in and there wasn't much else to go on but there were clues news. If you look hard enough this tape was crystal clear and he's calling her by name. There is no ambiguity this was Robert Sylvester Kelly and this was Rochon lanphier a little bit of ambiguity about exactly the day was made but it was late nineteen ninety eight the holidays. Perhaps perhaps or early nineteen ninety nine. There was a television commercial for the money store subprime mortgage lender airing on the T._v. and it went out of business shortly after that time and we had been able to track some of the T._v.. Stations logs for when that commercial showed because the T._v. in the background was playing playing a video hits show and we knew when that episode aired roughly during the timeframe that the backstreet boys and the Spice Girls Song that we could identify identify were on top of the charts okay. I mean this team ninety eight nine hundred ninety nine like within six weeks span boom. She's fourteen you now. It's in his home and Abdin goes and tours it. He puts the home for sale in Lakeview near Wrigley Field right in which is also near where I lived <hes> puts his home for sale but does not remove the video cameras that had been installed in the ceilings and on the walls Abdin and saw them and it was a really unique pine wood paneled room with a hot tub and the F._B._I.. God bless them. This is very CSI. Yes I write series of you know they had microscopic. They blown up one hundred times the pine paddling and identified the knots in the would in the videotape to the knots in the wood in the actual room. Our escape was real aw now those videos had given Jim and his editors pause is not an agenda nature to hand things over to the the police. You need to protect your sources and you don't know how working with the police might endanger them but here Jim had two videos showing potential crimes climbs paedophilia after talking around in circles. He and his editors decided that they had to pass them on to law enforcement. Jim wrote up the the story they did not name or show sparkle and there was heated discussion about what level of description to go into about the abuse witnessed into video the top line of the story Gory Red Chicago. Police are investigating whether R&B Superstar Kelly Partner Today's opening act at the Winter Olympics in Salt Lake City had sex with an underage girl and videotaped the illegal act the Chicago Sun Times published Kelly performed at Olympics at night to seventy a two million views on T._v.. Yet again the story of the abuse was brushed off by most a few outlets picked up but always couched in language like the Chicago Sun Times is reporting while some community activists spoke out calling for boycotts of Stores Selling His music most of the world just let it go. I remember myself jokes in a college schoolyard about the R Kelly p video it was treated like salacious gossip like the Tummy Liam Pamela granderson sex tape. Jim was mortified canot and see this was different escalade.

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"robert sylvester" Discussed on WNYC 93.9 FM

WNYC 93.9 FM

12:32 min | 1 year ago

"robert sylvester" Discussed on WNYC 93.9 FM

"At public theater daughter work on the next fresh air Randy rainbow he writes and performs satirical songs about president trump set to the melodies of show tunes his videos go viral on YouTube sounds like this borrowing ability from the wizard of oz you would probably start crying then he has and join us all the damn weekdays at a ninety three point nine FM in line welcome back all of it the allegations against our Kelly of garnered media attention of the last months and years and rightfully so but it's a story that goes back decades particularly for one journalist music critic Jim dear goddess was in office of the Chicago sun times when he got a fax it began with the sentence I am sending this to you because I don't know where else to go at first the anonymous note seem to be about a review of an R. Kelly album and a comparison the dear goddess of made between the music of Marvin Gaye and Robert Sylvester Kelly that's the RB stars real name the message to return it read I guess Marvin Gaye had problems too but I don't think they were like Roberts Roberts problem and it's a thing that goes back many years is young girls I got as you see the letter just before thanksgiving in the year two thousand on December twenty first of that year the Chicago sun times published his article Kelly accused of sex with teenage girls in the nearly two decades since then dear goddess has relentlessly pursued and covered the allegations against Kelly Durgadas was also an associate professor at Columbia College and host of the radio show sound opinions shares the story of his reporting in the book solus the case against our Kelly we talked about it recently and I began by asking Jim when during the course of this reporting he realized that he was going to commit to the story and see it through for as long as it took to get the truth when I when our first story ran me in Aberdeen palace was my reporting partner on December twenty first two thousand was six weeks of of eighteen hour days it took us to mail seven days a week the nail that story in between you know I'm still having to review records of U. concerts preview artists coming to town as pop music critic Adams covering other court cases but we thought this was really important and with every young girl we spoke to and her mother and her family members Hey you know we got more and more committed to doing this story right because we saw the pain we saw the metaphorical and Lee oracle scores on young women's race from where they tried to kill himself I hate that headline and I'm I'm sorry you read it in R. Kelly sex with with with teenagers it can't be sex it is that implied consensual it but it was a statutory rape it was an assault of a of a fourteen or fifteen year old who couldn't have consented I don't know it got its teeth in us but we thought on December twenty first is like okay we we nail this we used you know everything we had to report this story the world will stop this man and I'm talking you nineteen years later and he's in court now but he's free and there's two young women with him now whose family say are being abused brainwash part of a cold which sounds super melodramatic and if I had not reported that story for nine months I would think it was nonsense to know what's not you know with her sing about Nexium I think people are actually are aware that these these things are going on it's interesting that you should mention that headline because a big part of the book or not a significant part of the book is your struggle to have the story reported the way that you believed deeply should be reported and details that are pushed down to the thirtieth grass with a thirty six year rat you know you really had to struggle to get people to pay attention to the seriousness of the story and you said that when you first started reporting on this you received deafening silence to what do you attribute that you know AAA the million dollar quote and to be clear when I say this for the millionth time it can't be said often enough I am simply amplifying what hundreds of young black women and girls have said to me nobody matters less in our society than black girls and and you know I am a fifty four year old fat white rock critic with the rocky Erikson tattoo we just take a tribute to rocky for sound opinions you know and many others I'm not part of the south and west side black communities in the city of Chicago that I love but to have heard this so many times for nineteen years I mean what a journalist does what I do what you do Allison is we give voice to people who are not being heard and and I think if the victims had not been young black girls this they don't have mark Anthony Neal great African American scholar pop culture writer professor Downey Duke chair of African American studies said to me and this is fifteen years ago Jim if it had been one white girl from the suburbs this would've been done you know I work in the music business for a long time you were dressed in business for a long time this was an open secret people everybody knew something was gone going on especially in the music business so what is it about me complain the courts all kind of things but what was it about the music business that allowed so much of this to continue on question for so long yeah well this is one of the things that that really haunts me because you and I as music lovers right is there something particular about music that we embrace the most transgressive people I'm I'm really wondering about that I mean the amount of social media hate that I'm getting boo hoo well I'm a Big Boy I can take care of myself the women are getting that to run a Burke the founder of me too is getting that the women who founded mute R. Kelly getting that the victims who are putting their names to these accusations it is as horrifying to me to see the sexist vile hatred that is being directed at them on social media as it was to look into the faces on television of those racist anti semitic white men in Charlottesville I mean you know we know there's evil in the world we know there's hatred in the world but man when you're confronted with this wow I don't understand you know the people defending Kelly we don't believe all these liars gold diggers in many many names that are much more on repeatable on the radio we don't believe there are letting you know now it's not even so much that we don't think he did these things it's that they don't care that he did these things and which brings us back to what I was saying they don't care about young black girls I mean I know the names of forty eight women I write in the book whose lives he seriously damage from the point where some of them you know cedar door attempted suicide that's not hyperbole to say he would ruin their lives taking their virginity and and and sexual contact at fourteen at thirteen at fifteen and then on top of that now they're going to be vilified for having the courage to come forward I mean those women are extraordinarily brave it is about the women not about this man I also news just Editora my part I eat so many people make money off of people like this it's money call about about money a lot of it like the jive records made a billion dollars I got that from a position of from a source in a position to know the Kelly finances that Kelly earned a quarter of a billion dollars himself but Clive colder and Barry Weiss the man at the top of jive records the full billion dollars and we cannot say they were on a where because the the court filings by in some of the civil lawsuits way back three you know I mean I'm talking nineteen ninety six it starts the first ten million dollar suit by an extraordinarily brave woman Tiffany Hawkins that tries to stop him is a ten million dollar suit she only gets two hundred fifty thousand but Chinese name his party so there's no way that the top executives at jive didn't have this on their desk my guess is Jim dear god is the name of his book is soulless the case against our Kelly and as you read your your book it's interesting because there's so many different characters and I feel like the city of Chicago is a character in the book a little bit down to the way the police reacted down to great passages about a judge you got quiet an interesting history who has had a huge impact on what can and can't be introduced into the one trial what what do you think what was the role of Chicago in all of this I thank you first of all for saying that I I hope that long after anybody's interested in R. Kelly this will be one of those books about Chicago like you know the great Nelson Albert or something you know I'm trying to write about the city they can learn to grow up in Jersey city I go to school at NYU but I've been here since nineteen ninety one and I love this city this city has both an incredible sort of boosterism for its hometown heroes you know we have the biggest guy scrapers Alice and we have the most crooked politicians and we've got the best pizza not I'm still New York okay but there's also this inferiority complex that notion of the second city you know not for not I mean that's true we we we are not New York or LA and SO in Chicago we're really super proud of our Michael Jordan and then we're also like like we're not as good right and that comes in part from so many people having cut their teeth here in places like second city or Steppenwolf and then they become famous you know Tina fey or whatever and they go to New York or Los Angeles right Kelly sells a hundred million records becomes the dominant voice in order to be for a generation is opening the winter Olympics and the World Cup in Africa any state he leave he he is Chicago right I mean it gets vacation home later and gets in trouble in Atlanta and Florida before that but I mean the Chicago still you see him all the time now here's the flip side you see them all the time you see him cruising Kenwood academy and Whitney young high school both high schools and you you see him at the rock and roll McDonald's picking up teenagers you see him at the evergreen plaza shopping mall so he's our hero he's a superstar he's among us and he's among us it in in the most horrifying creepy predatory way you one of the reasons you were able to continue working the story is because you've got information over the proverbial transom the fax came into you you were on the receiving end of two tape with R. Kelly allegedly Kelly allegedly having sexual intelligent and alleged in the book it's you that way you say that the gated I mean I knew the girl I knew that I I had pictures of the girl we we we we act you talk to the girls in the fourteen year old I mean now and I know it's not that he should be yeah yeah that's I mean I think is that okay and the staff was actually one of my questions to you already has allegedly now has three more well well the attorney David Dunn who write every word that I wrote since in two thousand to the present publisher Abrams books higher Damon right yeah Damon is is is a guy who had no idea who are Kelly was before November two thousand eight yeah hi Kelly said I think we're finally libel proof on this man even done says that I was like okay you know and he had and he will kick me the next time I see him for saying that he said that so you're on the receiving end of all of this information of these videotapes some of them are pornographic in nature did you ever find out who sent any of this material to you do you have an inkling of who it might be if you know the book lays out for the first time in part because I I got I was the beneficiary of yet more fortuitous things that came in this time via Twitter when I was finishing the book I mean you know during the trial R. Kelly's defense team at eight hundred fifty.

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"For Democrats? What we find with black communities is that when we show up, we transform how power upgrades in this country, engaging black voters ahead of twenty twenty that's next time on politics with Amy Walter from the takeaway Fridays at three on ninety three point nine FM. All of it on WNYC. I'm Alison Stewart music critic, Jim to regardless was in the office chicago-sun-times when he got a fax remember as faxes it began with the sentence, quote, I'm sending this to you, because I don't know where else to go at first the anonymous note seemed to be about a review of an R Kelly album in comparison to regattas may between the music of Marvin Gaye and Robert Sylvester Kelly, that's army stars full name, but the message took a turn and it read, I guess Marvin Gaye had problems too. But I don't think they were like Roberts Roberts problem, and it's a thing that goes back many years is young girls. Got us received a letter just before thanksgiving in the year two thousand and December twenty first that year, the Chicago sun times published his article Kelly accused of sex with teenage girls in the nearly two decades since then dear goddess has relented and uncovered allegations against Kelly. Even amidst non-guilty findings and the dismissal suppression of his stories, the world finally began to take notice and many of the women, dear goddess had reported on had their stories amplified by the lifetime documentary surviving R Kelly this morning are back in court in Chicago, where he pleaded not guilty to eleven new counts of sexual abuse goddess who's also associate professor at Columbia, college, and host of the radio show sound opinions. Now shares the story of reporting, and new book Solis the case against our Kelly. Hey, Jim, welcome to all of it. Thank you, Ellison. So when you bomb again, this, you work in some Unix, music critic, and the Chicago sun times, and you write in your book that you hadn't set out to be a hard news or investigative reporter, so in the really a personal question in the course of this these early days in years of working on this story. When did you realize that you were going to be committed to this for as long as it took to get the truth out there? I didn't you know, when when our first story ran me AbdIn palace was my reporting partner on December twenty first two thousand was six weeks of of eighteen hour days. It took us to nail seven days a week to nail that story in between you know, I'm still having a review records over you concert preview artists coming to town as pop music, critic addi- covering other court cases, but we thought this was really important. And with every young, girl, we spoke to and her mother and her family members, you know, we got more and more committed to doing mystery. Right. Because we saw the pain, we saw the metaphorical and lira coll- scars on young women's risk from where they tried to kill himself. I hate that headline and I'm sorry. You read it are Kelly sex with, with, with teenagers. It can't be sex that implies consensual. That was a statutory rape. It was an assault of a fourteen. Or fifteen year old who couldn't have consented. I don't know it got its teeth in us, but we thought on December twenty first is like, okay, we nailed this. We used everything we had to report this story the world will stop this man. And I'm talking to you nineteen years later and he's in court now, but he's free and there's two young women with him now whose family say are being abused brainwash part of a cult, which sounds super melodramatic, and if I had not reported that story for nine months, I would think it was nonsense to not with we're saying about Nexium. I think people are actually are aware that these, these things are going on. It's interesting that you should mention that headline because a big part of the book, a significant part of the book is your struggle to have this story reported the way that you believe deeply should be reported and details at are pushed down to the thirtieth graph, but a thirty six you really had to struggle to get people to pay attention to the series. Of the story. And you've said that when you first started reporting on this, you received deafening. Silence. To what do you attribute that? You know, the million dollar quote and to be clear when I say this for the million time and it can't be said often enough. I am simply amplifying, what hundreds of young black women and girls have said to me. Nobody matters less in our society than black girls. And, you know, I'm a fifty four year old fat white rock critic with Iraqi Ericsson tattoo, we just taped a tribute to rocky for sound opinions, you know, and many others. I'm not part of the south and west side black communities in the city of Chicago that I love but to have heard this so many times for nineteen years. I mean what a journalist does what I do what you do. Allison is we give voice to people who are not being heard. And I think if the victims had not been young black girls this at Mark anything meal. Great African American scholar, pop culture writer professor down at Duke, chair of African American studies, said to me, and this is fifteen years ago Jim, if it had been one white girl from the suburbs. This would have been done. You know, I worked in the music business for a long time. You've me in business for a long time. This was an open secret people. Everybody knew something was going on, especially in the music business. So what is it about complain the courts all kinds of things? But what was it about the music business that allowed so much of this to continue unquestioned for so long? Yeah. Well, this is one of the things that, that really haunts me because you and I as music lovers. Right. Is there something particular about music that we embrace the most transgressive people? I'm really wondering about that. I mean, the amount of social media hate that. I'm getting boo. I'm a big boy, I can take care of myself, but the women are getting the Toronto Burke, the founder of metoo is getting that the women who founded mute are Kelly are getting that the victims who are putting their names to these AKIs. I mean, it is, as hard fine to me to see the sexist vile hatred that it's being directed at them on social media, as it was to look into the faces on television of those racist. Anti-semitic white men in Charlottesville. I mean you know, we know there's evil in the world. We know there's hatred in the world. But man when you're confronted with it. Wow. I don't understand, you know, the people defending Kelly, we don't believe all these liars gold, diggers many, many names that are much more unrepeatable on the radio. We don't believe they're all leading now. It's not even so much that we don't think he did these things it's that they don't care that he did these things. And which brings us back to what I was saying. They don't care about young black girls. I know the names of forty eight women I write in the book whose lives, he seriously damaged from the point where some of them, you know, considered or attempted suicide. That's not hyperbole say he ruin their lives taking their virginity and sexual contact at fourteen at thirteen at fifteen. And then on top of that, now they're going to be vilified for having the courage to come forward. I mean those women are extraordinarily brave. It is about the women not about this. Man. I also just editorial my part, I so many people make money off of people like this as money. It's all about money. A lot of jive records made a billion dollars. I got that from a position from source in a position to know the Kelly finances that Kelly earned a quarter of a billion dollars himself, but Clive colder and Barry Weiss the men at the top of jive records earned a full billion dollars. And we cannot say they were unaware because the court. Filings by inside of the civil lawsuits way back three. I'm talking nineteen Ninety-six it starts the first ten million dollar suit by an extraordinarily. Brave woman Tiffany Hawkins, the tries to stop him is ten million dollars suit. She only gets two hundred fifty thousand but jive is named as party. So there's no way that the top executives are jive didn't have this on their desk. My guess Jim. Dear goddess, the name of his book is Solis, the case against our Kelly, and as you read your your book. It's interesting because there are so many different characters. And I feel like the city of Chicago is a character in the book, a little bit down to the way, the police reacted down to great, passages about a judge got quite an interesting history who has a huge impact on what can and can't be introduced into the one trial. What, what do you think what was the role of Chicago in all of this? I thank you, first of all for saying that I hope that long after. Anybody's interested in our Kelly. This'll be one of those books about Chicago. Like, you know, the great Nelson Algren or something. You know, trying to write about these Sadie that it came to grow up in Jersey City, I go to school at NYU, but I've been here since ninety ninety one and I love this city. This city has both an incredible sort of booster ISM for its hometown, heroes know we have the biggest guy scrapers Alison. We have the most crooked politicians, and we've got the best pizza. Not I'm still New York. Okay. But there's also this inferiority complex that notion of the second city, you know, not for that's true. We, we are not New York or LA, and so in Chicago, where really super proud of our Michael Jordan. And then we're also like, like we're not as good, right? And that comes in part from so many people having cut their teeth here in places like second city or Steppenwolf, and then they become famous Tina Fey or whatever, and they go to New York or Los Angeles, right? Kelly sells one hundred million records becomes the dominant voice in our be for generation is opening the Winter Olympics and the World Cup in Africa. And he stayed he didn't leave. He is Kaga gets vacation home later and gets in trouble in Atlanta and Florida before that. But, I mean he's Chicago's still, you see them all the time. Now, here's the flipside, you see all the time you see him cruising, Kenwood academy, and Whitney young high school. Both high schools you see him at the. The rock and roll. Mcdonald's picking up teenagers you see him at the evergreen plaza shopping mall. So he's our hero. He's a superstar. He's among us. And he's among us it in the most horrifying creepy. Predatory way. You one of the reasons you were able to continue working the story is because you got information over the proverbial transom the facts came into you, you were on the receiving end of two videotaped with our Kelly allegedly Kelly allegedly having sexual out alleged in the book. Let you say that. I mean my girl, I knew I had pictures of the girl we talked to the girls aunt, the fourteen year old. No. I know. It's not. Yeah. It's okay, and this is actually one of my questions. Are we? Now has three more. Well, the attorney Daymond done who read every word that I wrote since two thousand to the present of publisher Abrams books higher Damon. Right. Damon is, is a guy who had no idea who are Kelly was before November two thousand hard Kelly said, I think we are finally liable proof on this man. Jim. David, Dunn says that he and he will kick me the next time I see him for saying that he said that. So you're on the receiving end all of this information of these videotapes, some of them are pornographic in nature. Did you ever find out who sent any of this material to you? Do you have an inkling of who might be? In the book lays out for the first time in part because I, I was the beneficiary of yet, more for to it's things that came in this time via Twitter when I was finishing the book I mean, during the trial r Kelly's defense team, eight hundred fifty dollars.

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"When people with psychiatric illnesses, stay incarcerated until a hospital bed opens up, there are so few beds for people to have that kind of treatment that she ended up waiting eight months in the bucks county jail just to get into that hospital. How one woman's case, demonstrates the issue across the country. I'm tansy Vega. And that's next time on the takeaway, weekday afternoons at three on ninety three point nine FM. All of it on WNYC. I'm Alison Stewart music critic, Jim goddess was in the office of Chicago sun times when he got a fax remember though, as faxes it began with the sentence, quote, I'm sending this to you, because I don't know where else to go at first the anonymous note seemed to be about a review of an R Kelly album in a comparison to regattas may between the music of Marvin Gaye and Roberts Sylvester Kelly. That's army stars full name, but the message took a turn and it read, I guess Marvin Gaye had problems too. But I don't think they were like Roberts Roberts problem, and it's a thing that goes back many years is young girls. Give us received a letter just before thanksgiving in the year two thousand and December twenty first that year, the Chicago sun times, published his article Kelly accused of sex with teenage girls in the nearly two decades since then dear goddess has relentlessly pursued and uncovered Allegheny. Nations against Kelly, even amidst non-guilty findings and the dismissal suppression of his stories, the world finally began to take notice when many of the women, dear goddess had reported on had their stories amplified by the lifetime documentary surviving are Kelly this morning, R Kelly was back in court in Chicago, where he pleaded not guilty to eleven new counts of sexual abuse Durgadas, who's also soci- professor at Columbia, college, and host of the radio show sound opinions. Now shares the story of reporting, and new book Solis the case against our Kelly. Hey, Jim, welcome to all of it. Thank you, Alison. So when you bombed again, this, you're working in some Unix, music critic, and the Chicago sun times, and you write in your book that you hadn't set out to be a hard news or investigative reporter, so in just really a personal question in the course of this these early days in years of working on this story. When did you realize that you were going to be committed to this for as long as it took to get the truth out there? I didn't you know. When when our first story ran me AbdIn palace was my reporting partner on December twenty first two thousand was six weeks of of eighteen hour days. It took us to nail seven days a week to nail that story in between you know, I'm still having a review records review concert preview artists coming to town as pop music, critic, add covering other court cases. But we thought this was really important. And with every young, girl, we spoke to and her mother and her family members, you know, we got more and more committed to doing this story. Right. Because we saw the pain, we saw the metaphorical and lyrical. Scars on young women's rest from where they tried to kill himself. I hate that headline and I'm sorry. You read it are Kelly sex with, with, with teenagers. It can't be sex that implies consensual. It was a statutory rape. It was an assault of a of a fourteen or fifteen year old who couldn't have consented. I don't know it got its teeth in us. But we thought on December twenty I is like, okay we, we nailed this. We used everything we had to report this story the world will stop this man. And I'm talking to you nineteen years later and he's in court now, but he's free and there's two young women with him now whose family say are being abused. Brainwashed part of a cult which sounds super melodramatic, and if I had not reported that story for nine months, I would think it was nonsense to not we're saying about Nexium, I think people are actually are aware that these, these things are going on. It's interesting that you should. Mention that headline because a big part of the book a significant part of the book is your struggle to have this story reported the way that you believe deeply should be reported and details at are pushed down to the thirtieth graph but a thirty six. You really had to struggle to get people to pay attention to the seriousness of the story. And you've said that when you first started reporting on this, you received deafening silence. To what do you attribute that? You know, the million dollar quote and to be clear when I say this for the million time and it can't be said often enough. I am simply amplifying. What hundreds of young black women and girls have said to me, nobody matters less in our society than black girls? And, you know, I'm a fifty four year old fat white rock Riddick with Iraqi rocky tattoo. We just take a tribute to rocky for sound opinions, you know, and many others. I I'm not part of the south and Westside black communities in the city of Chicago that I love but to have heard this so many times for nineteen years. I mean what a journalist does what I do what you do. Allison is we give voice to people who are not being heard, and, and I think if the victims had not been young black girls this at Mark Anthony Neal, great African American scholar. Pop culture writer professor down at Duke, chair of African American studies said to me, and this is fifteen years ago Jim, if it had been one white girl from the suburbs. This would have been done. You know, I worked in the music business for a long time. You've worked around the music business for a long time. This was an open secret people. Everybody knew something was going on, especially in the music business. So what is it about me complain the courts all kinds of things. But what was it about the music business that allowed so much of this to continue unquestioned for so long? Yeah. Well, this is one of the things that really haunts me because you and I as music lovers, right? Is there something particular about music that we embrace the most transgressive people? I'm really wondering about that. I mean, the amount of social media hate that. I'm getting boohoo. I'm a big boy. I can take care of myself, but the women are getting the Toronto Burke, the founder of metoo is getting that the women who founded mute are Kelly are getting that the victims who are putting their names to these accurate. I mean, it is as horrifying to me to see the sexist vile hatred that it's being directed at them on social media, as it was to look into the faces on television of those racist. Anti-semitic white men in Charlottesville. I mean you know, we know there's evil in the world. We know there's hatred in the world. But man when you're. Confronted with it. Wow. I, I don't understand, you know, the people defending Kelly, we don't believe all these liars gold, diggers many, many names that are much more unrepeatable on the radio. We don't believe they're all, you know, now it's not even so much that we don't think he did these things it's that they don't care that he did these things. And which brings us back to what I was saying. They don't care about young black girls. I know the names of forty eight women I write in the book whose lives, he seriously damaged from the point where some of them, you know, consider door attempted suicide. That's not hyperbole to say he ruin their lives, taking their virginity and, and sexual contact at fourteen at thirteen at fifteen. And then on top of that, now they're going to be vilified for having the courage to come forward. I mean those women are extraordinarily brave. It is about the women not about this. Man. I also just editor on my part, I e so many people make money off of people like this is money. It's all about money. A lot of jive records made a billion dollars. I got that from a position from a source in a position to know the Kelly finances that Kelly earned a quarter of a billion dollars himself, but Clive colder and Barry Weiss the men at the top of jive records earned a full billion dollars. And we cannot say they were unaware because the, the court. Filings by in some of the civil lawsuits way back. Three I'm talking nineteen Ninety-six it starts, the first ten million dollar suit by an extraordinarily. Brave woman Tiffany Hawkins tries to stop him is a ten million dollar suits. She only gets two hundred fifty thousand but jive is named as a party. So there's no way that the top executives are jive didn't have this on their desk. My guess Jim. Dear God is the name of his book is soulless, the case against our Kelly, and as you read your your book. It's interesting because there are so many different characters. And I feel like the city of Chicago is a character in the book a little bit down to the way, the police reacted down to great passages. About a judge has got quite an interesting history who has has a huge impact on what can and can't be introduced into the one trial. What, what do you think what was the role of Chicago in all of this? I thank you, first of all for saying that I hope that long after. Anybody's interested in our Kelly. This'll be one of those books about Chicago. Like, you know, the great Nelson Algren or something. You know, trying to write about this Sadie, then it came out of growth in Jersey City, I go to school at NYU, but I've been here since ninety ninety one and I love this city. This city has both an incredible sort of booster ISM for its hometown heroes. You know, we have the biggest guy scrapers Alison. We have the most crooked politicians, and we've got the best pizza not, I'm still New York. It's okay. But there's also this inferior already complex that notion of the second city, you know, not for nothing. I mean that's true. We, we are not New York or LA. And so in Chicago, where really super proud of our Michael Jordan. And then we're also like, like we're not as good, right? And that comes in part from so many people having cut their teeth here in places like second city or Steppenwolf, and then they become famous Tina Fey or whatever, and they go to New York or Los Angeles, right? Kelly sells one hundred million records becomes the dominant voice in our it'd be for generation is opening the Winter Olympics and the World Cup in Africa. And he stayed he didn't leave. He is should Kaga, right. I mean gets vacation home later and gets in trouble in Atlanta, and Florida before that. But I mean he's Chicago's still you see him all the time. Now, here's the flipside, you see him all the time. You see him cruising, Kenwood academy, and Whitney young high school, both icicles. You see him at the. Rock and roll. Mcdonald's picking up teenagers you see him at the evergreen plaza shopping mall. So he's our hero. He's a superstar. He's among us. And he's among us it in the most horrifying creepy. Predatory way..

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"Rob frauds, podcast what sports minute. AP radio news. I'm Ed Donahue, the leader of the department of homeland security is defending President Trump's declaration of a national emergency. If the Mexico border AP soccer megani has the story here to Nielsen says it's real sustained and serious. Make no mistake this chain of human resources is getting worse. Nielsen was testifying before the house homeland security committee one of three hearings today focusing on immigration after Democrats pledged to prioritize the Trump administration's actions at the border, including separating families. Nielsen says there is an emergency at the border. The GOP led Senate next week is expected to join the house in rejecting the president's national emergency declaration, though, he'll almost certainly veto the measure saga megani. Washington are Kelly got emotional. I didn't do this stuff. This is not me. Kelly toll CBS, Gayle king the people accusing him of sexual abuse are liars and people are after him for his money. The R&_B star was charged last month in Chicago with sexually abusing four females dating back to nine hundred ninety eight including three underage girls. Twenty-three-year-old Jocelyn savage is one of the women living with our Kelly R Kelly blamed her family for their relationship. Carol. Greg's is the family attorney at no point did the savage family provide or sell their daughter to Robert Sylvester Kelly, and we have proof, and we have received an interview with Jocelyn savage and another woman living with our Kelly will air on CBS Friday. Prosecutors say they will drop corruption charges against former Illinois congressman Aaron schock, if he repays tens of thousands of dollars in taxes and campaign committee. I'm looking forward to having his weight off my chest and not having it the first thing I think about every morning, and the last thing I think about before I go to bed shock resigned from congress in twenty fifteen this. This is AP radio news as she grows. Older Taylor swift is worried about her safety and her fans safety. Everything has Taylor swift tells Elle magazine she had concerns about going on tour at the Las Vegas concert shooting in the bombing at Manchester arena in England. She says she went through a lot of planning and expense to keep her fans safe. She says she has a fear of stalkers because tabloids and websites post every home address she's ever had. But she's learned not to be ruled by fear. Those are some of the thirty things swift shares that she's learned as she turns thirty in December the other things includes shutting off social media how to fight fair and not to use sharpies as eyeliner. I'm Archie zaraleta? Police in Germany are warning people who may have crossed a gardener Bernhardt growling recently died a doctor was killed a mother and daughter were injured by bombs apparently planted by ground and before he died the women were injured when a log that was rigged with explosives was placed in their stove. I'm Ed Donahue. AP radio news. AP radio news. I'm Ed Donahue, the leader of the department of homeland security.

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"robert sylvester" Discussed on AP News

AP News

01:46 min | 2 years ago

"robert sylvester" Discussed on AP News

"AP radio news. I'm Ed Donahue, the leader of the department of homeland security is defending President Trump's declaration of national emergency the Mexico border AP. Saga megani has the story. Huston. Nielsen says it's real sustained and serious. Make no mistake. This chain of human Rizzi is getting worse. The Olsen was testifying before the house homeland security committee one of three hearings today focusing on immigration after Democrats pledged to prioritize the Trump administration's actions at the border, including separating families. Nielsen says there is an emergency at the border. The GOP led Senate next week is expected to join the house in rejecting the president's national emergency declaration, though, he'll almost certainly veto the measure saga megani, Washington. Mark Kelly got emotional. I didn't do this stuff. This is not me. Mike Kelly toll CBS's, Gayle king the people accusing him of sexual abuse are liars and people are after him for his money. The R&_B star was charged last month in Chicago with sexually abusing four females dating back to nineteen ninety eight including three underage girls. Twenty-three-year-old Jocelyn savage is one of the women living with R Kelly R Kelly blamed her family for their relationship. Gerald, Greg's is the family attorney at no point did the savage family provide or sell their daughter to Robert Sylvester Kelly, and we have proof, and we have receipt and interview with Jocelyn savage and another woman living with our Kelly will air on CBS Friday. Prosecutors say they will drop corruption charges against former Illinois congressman Aaron schock, if he repays tens of thousands of dollars in taxes and to campaign committee. I'm looking forward to having this.

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"robert sylvester" Discussed on KQED Radio

KQED Radio

02:58 min | 2 years ago

"robert sylvester" Discussed on KQED Radio

"You're listening to eighty eight point five San Francisco in K Kiwi. I eight nine point three north Highland Sacramento. It's two thirty. I'm Carol hills. A low cost lightweight Israeli space mission launched last night. Only weighs a kilograms but carries tons and tons of people's dreams and hopes and old went up there. And that was actually incredible. What the brace sheet mission is shows us about the future of space exploration. I had on the world. BBC news with Jonathan is odd. The Sudanese President Omar al-bashir has sacked his government and declared a state of emergency after months of protests against him. He made the announcement televised address from the presidential palace in Khartoum. He also called for a postponement of the discussions on constitutional changes that would allow him to stand for another term, then as women soldiers have shot that two people near the southern border with Brazil, more than a dozen others were injured when the troops opened fire on members of the areas indigenous community, the group will reportedly trying to keep the border open to allow the delivery of foreign aid soldiers loyal to president the class Mhondoro who've been ordered to stop supplies. The American singer R Kelly has been charged with ten counts of aggravated criminal sexual abuse. In Illinois, the singer whose real name is Robert Sylvester Kelly has faced claims of sexual abuse against women for decades. He denies all the allegations the luxury apartment block that belonged to Colombia's infamous drug law. Lord, Pablo Escobar, the height of his power and fame has been demolished in the city of Medellin. A ceremony was held outside the building to honor the victims of the Medellin cartel. The criminal organization led by Escobar. The US has accused several senior officials in the Democratic Republic of Congo of involvement in corruption relating to the recent disputed presidential election Washington has imposed visa bans on the officials from the electoral commission, including its head. Konate Nanga observers believe the whole election was fixed. Protests against the ailing Algierian President Abdelaziz covering for a fifth term in APRIL's. Elections have turned violent security forces in riot gear fired tear gas to block March to the presidential palace in the capital Algiers. And the couple in the US state of California have pleaded guilty to torturing and starving. Twelve of their thirteen children. David Louise's Turpin pleaded guilty to fourteen charges including abusing minor and adult children and abusing and imprisoning them in their home, which became known as the house. Of Horace BBC news support for the world comes from legalzoom with over seventeen years and more than two million customers. Legalzoom provides helpful support legal advice and transparency for business. Owners. More information at legalzoom dot com slash world. I'm Carol hills. This is.

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"robert sylvester" Discussed on KQED Radio

KQED Radio

03:54 min | 2 years ago

"robert sylvester" Discussed on KQED Radio

"Zukilat to hey, also is a well-known Rafa and synagogue. He's also a founding member of Jonah. The risk. If a really fixed the process if fraudulent because the candidate who have been put in prison, and for political reasons that aren't in the interest of the negative people. It makes that our justifed them has been manipulated for a long time. Now, the government denies those charges. But after the electoral law was revised only five candidates have been deemed eligible to run those challenging the incumbent include fuller, prime minister, he sank and the young up and coming candidate use man Sonko president Sal has a shot at winning, but they're all growing frustrations that development is not happening fast enough. And so when it comes to voting day nothing can be ruled out the baby's Louise last ending that report it's more than six weeks since in American documentary came out in the US showing a string of abuse. Claims against the R and B singer R Kelly now two more women have come forward accusing him of sexual misconduct after one of his concerts. He denies all the allegations, the newsroom's allies porter has more Rachelle Washington. And literacy scarf told a news conference in New York that they were fifteen and sixteen when R Kelly security staff picked them out of the audience where they were then allegedly given drink and drugs at an after concert party in Baltimore in the nine hundred ninety s miss Skaff. Who is now forty said that at the party they were invited to wait for the singer in his hotel room and told to pull up their dresses. She said the singer exposed himself, and then demanded sex mis Washington who is now thirty nine said, she refused while Miscavige stayed and had sex. But now says she did not have the capacity to consent. The cushy had taken alcohol and drugs Kelly whose full. Name is Robert Sylvester Kelly has faced claims of sexual abuse for more than twenty years a recent documentary surviving Kelly shown on the US channel lifetime contain detailed accounts of his alleged physical and emotional abuse of women it claimed the singer ran an abusive cult in which he allegedly kept women captive since the documentaries. Release many artists have been keen to disassociate themselves. From the singer lady Gaga has apologized for working with him removing their you at do what you want. From streaming services, ahrq as lawyers dismissed the documentary as another round of stories. He's never been convicted and denies all the allegations. It's been more than seven years since the civil war started in Syria to escape the conflict. Many have fled to Lebanon, more than a million Syrian refugees. Have now been registered as living in the country and up to thirty. Eighty percent of those are children to help bring little magic to their childhood. An aid worker is making their everyday alphabet, more extraordinary. I reporter Georgina Campbell has the story. Everyone needs a little magic in their life. Especially children who have fled conflict and find themselves growing up in refugee camps, Lebanon has one million registered Syrian refugees haven't been displaced by more than seven years of fighting in their own country. They live in makeshift camps dotted around Lebanon that there is someone who is determined to bring a small to their faces. And that is Jamie Belfer for Paul. How? Longtime humanitarian.

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"robert sylvester" Discussed on 790 KABC

790 KABC

15:15 min | 2 years ago

"robert sylvester" Discussed on 790 KABC

"Hundred two two two five to two hundred Dr drew we've been we will be talking about R Kelly. But it up take your calls as well. But right now, we're going to go out to our friends. Civil rights. Attorney Gloria Allred Gloria has been too long happy new year happy new year to you, drew. So we were so curious you any comments on the R Kelly situation. I certainly do. New York today. Good. Well, we we had a press conference to let Mr Kelly no way. No one's certain terms that he cannot any will not intimidate his alleged victims into keeping silent about their allegations. I represent three of the alleged victims and one of them, faith Rogers and her mother were with the press conference. So we have evidence Dr drew, and we and that Mr Kelly has engaged in efforts to intimidate and retaliate against faith Rogers. And we presented this evidence. For the first time today. Face Rogers, followed a lawsuit against Robert Sylvester Kelly, aka R Kelly which is pending in the New York supreme court detailing what she alleges is Kelly's victimization of her and in response to that lawsuit. Mr Kelly, we allege retaliated against her by threatening to reveal what he alleges are details of her sex life. And in addition, he posted private photos have her one threat was contained in a letter to that Mr Kelly wrote to Lydia hills. Who's also known as a good she's an attorney for MS Rogers in in that lawsuit. And here's what as a quote from what Mr Kelly said in his his signature, by the way was notarized by a notary. And he said, quote is she persists in court action. She will be subjected to public opinion during the discovery process. For example, my law team is prepared to request a production of the medical test results, providing the origin of her SD claim as well as ten personal male witnesses testifying under oath about her sex life is supportive her claim and complete records differ. Text FaceTime messages exchanges, and you know. And so on. Cetera. So yeah. So you know, faith is not the only alleged victim R Kelly is attempted to intimidate into silence in response to the ellegation of his many alleged victims as contained in the recent lifetime documentary Kelley's attorney has appeared to threaten a lawsuit against lifetime. And according to news reports someone associated with Kelly's team launched a Facebook page called survive. There's a quote surviving lies in quote to allegedly discredit his accusers. Well reports indicates that the page was quote, specifically taken down for violating Facebook's policy on bullying or sharing others. Private contact information in quote and news reports also claimed that Mr Kelly is threatening to sue everyone involved in the documentary. So it just seems that mister Kelly's taking his playbook from Donald Trump who threatened to sue the women who came forward during the campaign to speak about his behavior towards them. And in fact it. It may be a coincidence. But Mr Kelly was recently confronted by the police at Trump Tower in Chicago where he was residing mister Kelly's attorney Steve Greenberg said the singer will quote, hopefully soon lifetime, and quote, and that was in his first interview with ABC news. Since the release of lifetime surviving or Kelly. So I say to Mr Kelly and his attorney be careful what you hope for all these attempts to intimidate threat or clients, and others will not work. Mr Kelly, your disgusting tactics will not prevent women who alleged they were victimized and telling their truth. And in addition to face mother, Kelly Rogers was also with us today. Her daughter Dominique she's me her daughter is faith. And then we also had another mother with us at the press conference. Ms Michelle, Kramer, we also represented her. And she's the mother of Dominique Gardner. Dominique also allegedly suffered for years from Kelly's misconduct and these mothers had an important message, which they conveyed R Kelly and by the way in addition. We also have an appointment today with the New York City police department who asked to meet with faith in furtherance of their investigation into potential victims of our Kelly, and we are offering our full and complete cooperation in their investigation. And then, of course, prosecutors in Chicago and Atlanta also seeking information for potential victims. And we plan to offer them our cooperation as well. So I said to Mr Kelly you may soon join the ranks to Bill Cosby and Harvey Weinstein, just as they have been an are being held accountable era actions. You also must be accountable and Mr Kelly can look forward to a legacy which will not be his music, but rather the pain and suffering. He has inflicted on the many vulnerable teenagers and young women who claim they were victimized by him. So I said to Mr Kelly, you may rest assured that I will do everything in my power to support those who claim that they are victims. Gloria I have not seen. I've seen pieces of the documentary. I haven't seen the whole thing yet. But my best friend brandy gave me the whole breakdown. And what she was saying that are Kelly did this a lot with his victims that he would videotape their sexual escapades. And now leads me to believe that he would do this to sort of hold them like extortion to do this to them if they ever wanted to come out that he could hold this against them and say, you know, I will show this to people and hold this over their heads. Do you think that this was what he was doing to faith and all these other women that if they ever came out that he would say, all all expose you and also this to the world. Well, you know, I am not gonna engage in speculation. But I think that the facts will end up speaking for themselves when people are under oath and testify. You know, we'll we'll let a jury reach those conclusions. But certainly there are people who are speculating about exactly what you just mentioned. I'm imagining. I mean, I would imagine you would be incurring great liability to make allegations like this without some very compelling evidence. Well, great point. And that's why I handed out to the press today, and we can send it to you later on a copy of what Mr Kelly said the quote that I read in the letter that he sent to the attorney Lydia to whom I was speaking. And you know, it goes on for pages. But and it's in some cases a bit, you know, to be kind incoherent and to not be kind. I guess something else, but it is a quote directly from him. And where he has signed that, you know, and and to me, I think that, you know, many people reading their quote, would it would interpret. It it as a threat and the only threat, but a threat that was carried out how long ago was faith a victim of R Kelly Johnston part. Well, you know within the last few years, I you know, I can't go into the facts right now just because we have a shortage of times, but we are concerned about retaliation. We are concerned about bullying we are concerned about threats because I mean, this is the person face whose father lawsuit, and nobody nobody should be bullied or threatened. No matter whether they fought a lawsuit or not. But when you do it to someone who has filed a lawsuit is actually even worse because it could be interpreted as an, you know, interfering with the Justice system, and I'm just gonna put it that way. And and and and and someone who is there to you know, pursue what she believes is a legal claim. So I take that very very seriously and certainly. You know, we'll we're glad that we're going to have this meeting with the New York police department, and they're certainly going to be made aware of of the evidence that we have in support of of our allegations. All right. Gloria will thank you for giving us a heads up in time with us latest, which you're up to and we will no doubt get an update on the story as that evolves. Thank you so much, Dr drew. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you so much. Our number's eight hundred two two two five two two two. I wanna get your calls presently. There's oh this is somebody wants to ask a follow onto the glorious story bad. Go ahead. Yes. I'm wondering why you know, I understand that are Kelly. What he did was heinous. Yeah. But I just heard Gloria Allred said we should list. It was music. We still listen to Elvis music and he married at fourteen didn't. Yeah. I completely agree with you. I I have asked the same question. And you know, there's a lot of musicians in the era of me too. I would focus your attention on the vis behaving of Led Zeppelin people that were unbelievably Jerry Lee Lewis. Abusive to women unbelievable, and I would agree with you. Ben Elvis was one of my daughters of feminist and a big Elvis fan, and I've been challenging her on this. It's a personal thing. I have to reconcile it like, yeah. Please do because I you know, I think you're imply we'll go ahead finish your thought. What do you? What's your full thought on it? In addition to white. Why we don't but go ahead. Tell me. I'll bet hold on. Komo hold on you breaking breaking up dragon. Oh. But I'm just what boy Allred said about his. Oh. Yeah. But I, but I wonder if we're looking for. All right fair enough. Although I he there is in the into if you if you follow Ben try to get a good connection because I I liked this this line of thinking if you were to take glorious logic to its conclusion, we should be taking a Picasso out of museums. He was mmj misogynist pig. We should be that listening to Elvis, which we not listening to Led Zeppelin. I mean, how far do we take that logic? That's an interesting question. Ben am I getting that? Understand that I'm going to break. I'm hang up because my phone is not is it. Sure is it. I know I got you. But that's see I when people get carried away on this stuff. I do agree with that that that's something. We really got to stop and think about like. Artists throughout history of not been the greatest men and women. -sarily cereal teenage girl dater, I don't know much about his girl though. Married her and she was fourteen. To have your children. Until the end suits still speaks highly of him. But this you know, that that's well. But art Kelly could be protected in the same way, she married a lien right that he's still going after teenage girls. Right. Millennia taping them. Yeah. Okay. Eight hundred two two two five two two two. We are going to. Okay. So we're going to keep the conversation. Go by the homeless the schools, mental health crisis in California. We're getting a lot of stuff here today. Michael let you comment here. Go ahead. Your first up Europe. See right on the Reagan. She regionally did what he was required to do. He didn't shut down. Oh. I just from the most part, right? I just sent an article from nineteen Eighty-four the chronicles how at that point the mental house already closing down. And it was largely excessive enthusiasm about medication by my profession. And so we sort of led the charge that was inhumane to keep the hospitals. How dare we just give them medicines? They're all cured. No, b-actor and Kennedy. You started during the candidate ministration. That's correct. He's the one that really pushed it and Carter on the Greg. My point on the budgets. Yeah. We need to stop every time. There's a bond proposal for these things for them hook line every time I ate had a tunnel pass it everything about they're all unfunny for the most part, we need to have some kind of language in each proposition. That says if the money's been spent how was said of was new stuff typewriters misspending reverts, not fun. But to the people that are paying for. Some kind of formula based on taxes paid please voter stopped voting for every single bond measure this unfunded passes. The for you for whatever fuel good things. So it's just it's atrocious. How they've got the budget wrapped up around stuff and LIAM's, right? They do always reverse. They're sneaky. Red alert to logically, Michael a real article. That said the reason the lottery money went to the general fund because they were able to qualify it as gambling money and therefore had to go to the to know that when they started it come on now. Yeah. It's like the shell game. Yes. Michael sorry. The last point was that on the last the gas tax over we just had they were spending thirty to forty percent of the annual budget to prepare roads on the journal fun. I can't cut off of this new or we're gonna vote, please. Keep the gas. Don't we promise you don't do that anymore? They could have done it for the last twenty years. They've been stealing thirteen percent on average. It's something like one hundred ninety million a year going back twenty years that they could use on roads. But now we got the new gas actually supposedly duct lockdowns. They can't do that in the future. But who knows it's just one every time they write something to though, they always instead of just saying gas tax hike. They always write something else. So run every time people go and vote on something. They never know what they're voting for because it's like, oh, you wanna have fun. You know, new roads and new bridges key? 'cause you know, you want to vote for that. That is why. Riley fathers were scared to death of direct democracy. So this the whole Republic, correct at direct democracies always implode throughout history. They've never survived. It's because of this because the tyranny of the majority and because of the lack of ability to make these informed decisions properly. You you've got to hire somebody or vote somebody to go do that for us. We can't do that. I can't do it. Right. Eight hundred to eight hundred two two two five to two to get your calls on hold here. I will get to that. And yeah, we got a lot of other stories we're keeping an eye on ACLU, adding that Americans are more likely to die of an opioid overdose. That a vehicle accident at the rate of one out of ninety six are dying of opiate overdose. And flying cars by twenty twenty three. I will be amongst the feel love that down to because it's because that's to me. That's that's a that's a metaphor for everything else. Going wrong in the streets. Hey, you won't you won't fix. The roads. You won't help.

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"robert sylvester" Discussed on Behind the Bastards

Behind the Bastards

03:49 min | 2 years ago

"robert sylvester" Discussed on Behind the Bastards

"Yeah. Okay. But I'm sure there will be a lot more fun conversations about gender politics. Come. I know that's what the audience really tunes on for. Roberts Sylvester Kelly was born in Chicago on January eighth nineteen sixty seven. His dad was absent from the get go in his mother JoAnne raised him and his three siblings. She was a schoolteacher and a committed Baptist writing later in his autobiography Sola coaster Kelly. Rick sorry, there's a little. Yeah. Is is his auto vilo Sola coaster a roller you exact Rolex and serve salt. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. We will be hearing that title regularly, and it will never not make me die just a little bit inside just a little bit. But the thing that I hate to admit I kind of like the layout of the book. Is it looked like a rollercoaster? No, no, no. It doesn't. It's just like, it's just neat. I've never seen an autobiography like Kelly clean ups and downs. No. It's a lot of visuals. Oh, like, he put a lot of thought into how he laid out his auto biography. And it's one of those things you get this throughout the story. I it sucks when someone like Harvey Weinstein whose like a piece of shit. But like, I can't point anything great. He did like just a piece of shit who was tied to some good movies are Kelly is like a really good artist. Like, he's one of these people. He's in like, the running for the best R and B singer of all time, and he's like he's legitimately talented. So like as you go through like as I'm reading his autobiography with it's ridiculous. Stupid name. I'm like, oh, well, let's go. Got a real good talent for layout. And then I'm like, oh, yeah. And he's molesting children fucking Christ. It's frustrating now. Maybe it's not. I mean, he brought someone else. Probably laid it out. I don't know. I feel like he's he's he's kind of attor. I think he's just too controlling till it someone else lead us auto biography. But we'll get to that too. Anyway, I'm we're parallel coaster solar coaster. Yeah. So in his autobiography solar coaster Kelly recalled it on the rare occasions he asked his mom what had happened to his dad. This was her response. Don't say nothing to me about that. No good son of a bitch because the minute he found out I was pregnant with you his cowardice left disappeared in the wind didn't want to have anything to do with either you or me Kelly goes on to write. I remember my mother's eyes on one of those days close to blood red as the anger grew and grew or she talked about my father as if he was the devil himself. I remember my is getting baby blood red too. Because what my mother loved I loved and what she hated. I hated baby blood ran. I don't know. No collar baby blue as a color, baby. Boy. I mean, maybe if you a lot of ABC. Yeah, he's got babies on the mind. I mean, I imagine if baby's blood would be a different color because baby has not been subjected to all the same adultery. They're not eating solid foods yet. Exactly. Okay. So maybe if you've seen a lot of baby blood sticks. This is part of why I think he wrote it to know ghostwriters going to be like baby blood red. That's sounds like it came out r Kelly's head. It was that day that moment that I decided to hate my father, not knowing really what hate meant or having a clear understanding of love. She told me on that day never to mention him. Again. I'm your mother and your father. She said I promised that. I'd never talk about him again. And I never did different is clearly. Repress any of that? Yeah. Well, that's that's that's his background. Robert Kelly grew up very poor. As family lived in the projects on the south side of Chicago, which according to the song, bad bad. Leroy Brown is the baddest part of town in his autobiography Kelly vaguely refers to his childhood home is being filled with numerous older women, and it's unclear how many of them were related and how many of them are just around. But it seems weird. It seems weird in Kelly's telling of it. When my mother wasn't around the women ran a little freer as I crept up in age found myself more curious and sometimes aroused, and I was shamed of being aroused..

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