17 Burst results for "Robert Rauschenberg"
"robert rauschenberg" Discussed on Kottke Ride Home
"Oldenburg, David novros, Robert rauschenberg and John Chamberlain, each of them did a very small illustration. Rauschenberg just drew a line while Warhol signed his initials, but in a way that makes them look like a very phallic rocket ship. Altogether, the ceramic tile is referred to as moon museum. And it's never been officially confirmed that the moon museum tile is indeed on the moon. After getting the run around several times when going through official channels, Myers managed to get an engineer to find a safe place for the tile on the lander module, and while it's been confirmed that Apollo 12 astronauts did leave some personal effects on the moon, it's unknown if they removed the tile from the lander and left it there. Nonetheless, Myers claimed they did after getting confirmation that it was on the lander from the engineer, and The New York Times ran the story before the Apollo 12 crew even got back home. Notably with a thumb obscuring Warhol's rude drawing on the photo of the tiny tile. But this time, we all know exactly what art will be installed on the moon, except coons sculptures might not be the first to get there. The verge notes that astrobotic plans to send artwork by Dubai based artist Sasha Jaffrey to the moon on their own lander later this year via United launch alliance's Vulcan rocket. So we'll see which comes first. But I guess in the kind of consolation prize Americans are used to with the space race, coons could at least be the first American to have his authorized artwork on the moon. And here's what Kuhn's himself had to say about his moon phases project, quote I wanted to create a historically meaningful NFT project rooted in humanistic and philosophical thoughts. Our achievements in space represent the limitless potential of humanity. Space explorations have given us a perspective of our ability to transcend worldly constraints. These ideas are central to my NFT project, which can be understood as a continuation and celebration of humanity's aspirational accomplishments within and beyond our own planet. Today's.
"robert rauschenberg" Discussed on The Art Newspaper Weekly
"Who was a boyd. An art critic they made sham studied. I mean just. We started a very meaningful relationship with shop. I mean he's been thinking very very much very deeply about the sham for many many years. I think he's still thinking about the shop. Yeah exactly and scott there was. Of course it's really important moment at the start adjustments career. Which is that. He he shows in the whitney annual the bayou then but the annual in nineteen fifty nine and he wasn't actually surrounded by for instance robert rauschenberg at that time and and his peers he was he was he was fairly alone. In that sense any company that was pretty intimidating. All say you know. I mean it's so interesting. Jasbir is one of the only people alive who i know including the granddaughter of our founder and the artists alex katz. Who remembers visiting all four. Whitney museum's he first came to the whitney on eighth street in the forties as a teenager where he remember seeing pollack he showed in our second location which was in the fifties during the fifties in the fifties. I mean the block The streets next to moma. And then of course in the seventies he had a great early surveyor retrospective at our former home. The boyer building with an amazing cadillac by michael crichton. So it's been a long journey. He's shown in three of those four places and we have now more than two hundred works in our collection. Although the i was not acquired until the early sixties puts a little behind a place like moma and you know as you were mentioning. When he was showing at the fifties. I would say the whitney was maybe not quite as adventurous. Curatorial became known to be in the sixties because it was a little bit more looking at a different kind of abstract painting figuration and he was neither of those things. That's really interesting. When it comes to jones's early where he he's that famous phrase about the stuff that he was using in his paintings. which was things. The mind already knows to a certain extent. Aren't he's paintings for an art audience or anyone. With level of familiarity with american essentially things the mind already knows and therefore does it become difficult therefore to curate and to find new avenues into that word to tell stories about them to a certain degree. Well isn't it the interesting Banned the minor really knows the minor really knows everything right. I mean because the mind is basically the vehicle through which we know. So i mean we assume that the joe jones by saying well things in minority no. He means symbols..
"robert rauschenberg" Discussed on Rock N Roll Archaeology
"Course. I want to ask about the daughters. I enjoyed reading about him. He seemed a little softer. Enjoy getting the same hearing. You interviewed both two of his daughters. Yeah is the teddy on justice. Yes and there seem like always a nice relationship. The best thing is i both been said independent of each other. Whenever in the life that they would not sure or they wanted to invoice so reassurance account so they would always pick it and say nothing Pretty well as apparent if you get if you get that. I'm of the one of my favorite bits in the bookcase Just a sixteenth birthday party and a catchy some she'd smuggled Bay to garo Muslim friends at their east. Got the defense guilin in these by the highest On the page having pay and he catches them and he counsels the policy the upfront the next day that big sixteenth he he a cleaning the house and so because obviously he was quite rebelliousness. Use full against this fall of this big tax lawyers who It was very much like do as i say. It's not as if though none of them got hand New expected to work for what you got. I think this respect for him for that. And i think they feel that they were best to serve. Because of the difficult thing time every interview was the same way kind of like just immense respect. He worked me to the bone. I was miserable during the recording session. I was mid. I hated every second of it. And i will do it again. They're just devoted to chunk. They believe in this man. Which is i mean. that's what you want. I guess. I guess it's it's the nature of people that you you follow whether they did whether you love them. Described can scrub making the american. It was like going to vietnam so that the sense of this go warned about the night. Shift the person that you follow. I didn't speak to anybody who he didn't respect to you. They might have disagreements with them. They might not like the way you went about certain things. But i also think thing that yester- member with another sometimes lost win win With tend to have these opinions at the end of the day. Jones name above the market and enable. It's his responsibility. And he's the guy that carries guy. He's the guy that roy songs he's the guy that has to go ahead and sell them and he's the guy who's career stanza full and what's and so i think that responsibly impressionable so as an impact. On the way you interact with other people's well. I love that he's been able to attach himself to to projects that we're you're scratching your head like you know he. He did the plays he worked with. Stephen king do he's doing musical. He wrote a screen play and this guy he sets his mind to something and just like. Oh i'll write a screenplay. Does he just goes right in. It's one hundred. Just full hog right ohi direct it and and direct. Yeah yeah direct this. Yeah he's getting confident self confidence. I think that's not unilat- The will turn on and tell you that anybody they will say within the hardware is not not. Because he's he is he's he's a very very good painter. He's a very very good hawks. His t. e. genuine isn't the we all know. The bob dylan tried his hand at all ronnie wood's the The musician painters an he's very much a musician. Stone john being john. Mellencamp speeds people. I spoke to the to the woman who exhibits in new york gallery in new york. He would have had a career as a planning to. He would have been noticed the paint irrespective of together. Use the last exhibit. In new york alongside robert ration. He would sit on that level. That is unique in that respect. You know the turns sounds so these things. I think that makes me nate. is and the fact that i don't think he's his brain is still Money still trying to do multiple things. He hasn't sat back. Put his feet up an entity. Sto tich playing the hits. He hasn't done a east constantly trying to stretch himself which is again upper retail story about his his first exhibit in new york. It was a co exhibit. I think with miles davis. Yeah and it's funny as as the reader and you know what it entails when you're opening an art exhibit you know if you've been to an opening that it's sort of you know cocktail party if he seemed surprised at what it turned out to be in the people who showed up and also the names. Obviously we're we're we're the draw but he seemed you know so disgusted and horrified at the idea of an art opening that he left early. He was very conscious that You know he's he's aware that being john mellencamp rockstar helped you get full of the doors. But he was very conscious that he wanted to. He wanted his painting to be too. He wants to be judged in the same way you know. He went back and took classes. He went back in were with with with paint isn't took tutorials and things like that. I think he felt left for opening the miles. Davis lung was build on some sister. And that doesn't happen. The norm you. I i'll exhibition. You don't get building since. I think he felt he was being mocked xerox star. And and he wanted to be judged moore's he felt enrich spits apis mistake system that early on and the later things that he did when he exhibited they were small. Things did things midwestern galleries in texas and things like that in the east of built. He's white backup to having a deal in a new york expense. Nothing is exempt something going on the road until tori eat paid. Choose before you went metal on medicines quaco. If you didn't exact same way you touch that like he felt like he was actually this exhibit with robert rauschenberg. That's that was like his okay. You're legit like once he. What's he made that. That was his madison square. Mo- garden moment. I think it was a massive thing. I new york. He'd said it was a big thing by think. When you placed on that level you took it by one of the significant figures in american idol. I guess it's secret news first novel and i said you're gonna do book reading with don delay or something like that you placed on that level. A neil it's a big fan. You know you can't imagine less when he would but nobody's gonna be in inroads paintings with jackson pollock for some about her jones. Were stunned up to that. It does stunned up to that needed this. You can read. He can read critics in the new york times. i think he's respected for what he does snow as the. Why gonna doing it. The father the exhibit exhibition didn't look sane wasn't ludicrous and huge..
"robert rauschenberg" Discussed on What Difference Does It Make
"Course i want to ask about the daughters. I enjoyed reading about him. He seemed a little softer. Enjoy getting the same hearing. You interviewed both two of his daughters. Yeah is the teddy. Go on justice yes and there seem like always a nice relationship. The best thing is i both been said independent of each other whenever in the life that they would not sure or they wanted to advice so reassurance account so they would always pick it nothing Pretty well as apparent if you get if you get that. I'm of the one of my favorite bits in the bookcase Just a sixteenth birthday party and a catchy some she'd smuggled about the bay to garo Muslim friends at their east. Got the defense guilin in these by the highest Around the page. They're having to pay an he catches them and he counsels the policy. The upfront the next day. That big sixteenth. He he a cleaning the house and so because obviously he was quite rebelliousness. Use full against this fall of this big tax lawyers who It was very much like do as i say. It's not as if though none of them got hand New expected to work for what you got. I think this respect for him for that. And i think they feel that they were best to serve. Because of the difficult thing time every interview was the same way kind of like just immense respect. He worked me to the bone. I was miserable during the recording session. I was mid. I hated every second of it. And i will do it again. They're just devoted to chunk. They believe in this man. Which is i mean. that's what you want. I guess. I guess it's it's the nature of people that you you follow whether they be whether you love them described can scrub making the american. It was like going to vietnam so that the sense of this go warned about the night. Shift the that you follow. I didn't speak to anybody who he didn't respect to you. They might have disagreements with them. They might not like the way you went about certain things. But i also think thing that yester- member with another sometimes lost win win With tend to have these opinions at the end of the day. Jones name above the market and enable. It's his responsibility. And he's the guy that carries guy. He's the guy that roy songs he's the guy that has to go ahead and sell them and he's the guy who's career stanza full and what's and so i think that responsibly impressionable so as an impact. On the way you interact with other people's well. I love that he's been able to attach himself to to projects that we're you're scratching your head like you know he. He did the plays he worked with. Stephen king do he's doing musical. He wrote a screen play. And this guy. I mean he just goes like he sets his mind to something and just like oh. I'll write a screenplay. Does he just goes right in. It's one hundred. Just full hog right ohi direct it and and direct. Yeah yeah direct this. Yeah he's getting confident self confidence. I think that's not unilat- The will turn on and tell you that anybody they will say within the hardware is having not you know. Not because he's he is on east. he's a very very good painter. He's a very very good hawks. His t. e. genuine isn't the we all know. The you know. Bob dylan tried his hand at all ronnie wood's the The musician painters an he's very much a musician. Stone john being. John mellencamp speeds people. I spoke to the to the woman who exhibits in new york gallery in new york. He would have had a career as a planning to. He would have been noticed the paint irrespective of together the last exhibit in new york alongside robert ration hook. He would sit on that level. That is unique. In that respect you know the turns sounds so these things. I think that makes me nate. is and the fact that i don't think he's his brain is still Money still trying to do multiple things. He hasn't sat back. Put his feet up an entity. Sto tich playing the hits. He hasn't done a east constantly trying to stretch himself which is again upper retail story about his his first exhibit in new york. It was a co exhibit. I think with miles davis. Yeah yeah yeah. And it's funny as as the reader and you know what it entails when you're opening an art exhibit. You know if you've been to an opening that it's sort of you know cocktail party if he seemed surprised at what it turned out to be in the people who showed up and also the names. Obviously we're we're we're the draw but he seemed you know so disgusted and horrified at the idea of an art opening that he left early. He was very conscious that You know he's he's aware that being john mellencamp rockstar helped you get full of the doors. But he was very conscious that he wanted to. He wanted his painting to be too. He wants to be judged in the same way you know. He went back and took classes. He went back in were with with with paint isn't took tutorials and things like that. I think he felt left for opening the miles. Davis lung was build on some sister. And that doesn't happen. The norm you. I i'll exhibition. You don't get building since. I think he felt he was being mocked xerox star. And and he wanted to be judged moore's he felt enrich spits apis mistake system that early on and the later things that he did when he exhibited they were small. Things did things midwestern galleries in texas and things like that in the east of built. He's white backup to having a deal in a new york expense. Nothing is exact. Same thing going on the road until tori eat paid. choose before you went. Metal on medicines quaco. If you didn't exact same way you touch that like. He felt like he was actually this exhibit with robert rauschenberg. That's that was like his okay. You're legit like once he. What's he made that. That was his madison square. Mo- garden moment. I think it was a massive thing. I new york. He'd said it was a big thing by think. When you placed on that level you took you by one of the significant figures in american idol. I guess it's secret news first novel. And i said you're gonna do book reading with don delay or something like that you placed on that level a neil seen that level. It's a big thing you know. You can't imagine less he would. But nobody's gonna be in inroads paintings with jackson pollock for some about that. Her jones were stunned up to that. It does stunned up to that needed this. You can read. He can read critics in the new york times. I think he's respected for what he does snow as the why he's doing it. The father the exhibit exhibition didn't look sane wasn't ludicrous and huge..
"robert rauschenberg" Discussed on The Wise Fool
"Thank you robert dumb luck of almost meeting him. I was at school. One day at the corcoran and i walked by this guy. This professor mind skip. He was in his the printmaking studio with with the guy and they were looking at this piece of art that look sort of like a robert rauschenberg. And there's this other guy with skip. And i'm like like sitting there working with skip leg. They're looking at something that looks like a russian bergen. They're like at my friends are like. Oh that's rob arou- shamburg. He's here making a series of prince. And i'm like no shit and then by the time i got back he was already gone. So buck that close well. At least you're greeted the same air for some time. Oh skip ended up telling great stories about him so it was. It was still nice but it was just like would have been so cool to talk to him but anyways total good egg so my shackle in respect to yeah. I almost worked with her. Richard avedon as well but that didn't work out either but that's a whole nother drama. Well at least you're in the vicinity in. Yeah i am so close to being something. But i just can't seem to like cross that threshold toda y. Your time will tone tenacity. Tenacity is the keyword. I'm working on it. Yeah no it's like you know. Having talent is not sufficient to be an artist or an artist making a life for themselves as an artist so tenacity is number two and then number. Three is just luck. You need to come across some people who catch an interest in your work and enables you to go to to elevates you all right well that's sort of touches on what i'm going to do for the last question so you ray for the last two questions sure. Are there three contemporary artists. That you're looking at that. You think the listeners should be also looking at all right so all mentioned three artists to are also personal friends of mine who i find extremely talented. One of them is hans. Lemon who's a dutch artist. Who creates wonderful drawings that are mysterious and weird and compelling any. You're not really sure what's going on in them but he'd always draws you in and he's also indefatigable creator he just keeps at it and he works in this farm outside of the major art centers where there will be chickens and dogs will walk into his studio and sometimes they will walk across the canvas that he's working on the floor and then those footprints will become part of the pattern and the work his grading. He's also a very generous person. Look into whole up other artists and always willing to enter into collaborations. So for sure hunts. Lemon is somebody take a look at. And then there's another orgies who's called shock koji. Who's a young artist from the netherlands. Who also lives outside of the main city centers. But i met him because he's come to spend time aboard the mothership so he sailed with us for several times. He's been here three times. Actually and i've been able to put into shows that were created by knows fair arts and he has a very interesting blend of old masters skills combined with contemporary themes. That are they create jarring dixon positions. But somehow it's still works. It all comes together. So i'm very confident. He has a great career ahead of him. And he's a good thing. So i absolutely recommend jock and then number three is barbara for nah whose italian. She's also very classically. Wold you can see. She masters that take technique oil painting and drawing really well but she puts it to us for very odd and disturbing things. It's her works are they're not pleasant. They're beautiful but there's something really jarring about them and she's also a really generous artist to helps her pierce do their thing and always willing to enter into collaborations and also has enormous energy level..
"robert rauschenberg" Discussed on Sounds Good with Branden Harvey
"I wanna do now particularly after this last year and a half or so is just kind of take stock and and pay closer attention to things that may be I sort of sped by in an attempt to get to a better place you know last year so. I don't think that i had pinpointed that. But i think that maybe that's why i was so especially toronto goldenrod because i am bad at staying still being character and so i'm always drawn to somebody who can who can speak to the benefits of being still noticing things and that seems to me as something that poetry is very good at. You know you're zooming very closely into something and you're talking about details that you know i may not be seeing indefinitely wouldn't be describing in the beautiful way that you describe things and so i guess how do you handle that tension of i think i think it sounds like it was important for you to keep on moving through your divorce and through the challenging experiences that we've all had over the last several years and at the same time i it sounds like you also fully believe that it's important to sit still and is it. Something that should be done in seasons is something that should be done. Both at the same time is one better than the other. I don't know. What do you think i don't know if it's really a hierarchy but i do think you know we. We live in a time where we often associate are worth with how busy we are and how productive we are in there sort of this cult of productivity that really goes against the idea of slowing down paying attention and it's sort of Not the space that poetry occupies. So i you know. I think there are times when we need to sort of. Maybe put our heads down and push forward. Because that's that's what's going to be most useful to us and then there are times where we need to stop and take a breath and it might be that you have to do both in the same day. We're in the same. Our and it may be that that there are seasons seasons for this. I mean i think you know robert rauschenberg. The artist robert rauschenberg said that the job of an artist is to is to keep people's eyes open. And i think that's kind of the job of poets and your eyes can be open as you're moving quickly through the world but you'll notice a lot more if you slow down every once in a while and just sort of You know. put your phone away. Maybe take your headphones off and listen and You know schedule a little a little. Nothing time into your day. I think it's incredibly important. You can be so busy. And what is it. add up to just. I don't find that satisfying. And i need a lot of kind of like the white space between stanzas and you know poetry. I need any white space in my days and weeks to kind of be myself and process things. I absolutely hate everything you just said in love what you just said because i think you just you just diagnosed me so they you feel called out yeah. I'm stopping this interview right now and seen.
"robert rauschenberg" Discussed on The Big Picture
"Like can we talk about the sparks brothers. Moving choose like you can glad i wasn't around so you're here now. You've watched that movie. I had a lot of appreciation for that movie. And it's just complete opposite nc in wanting what it wanted be. It was just like look. If you don't like this banner care about this story you can check out right now but if you're interested hang out because we're going to give you everything and i thought of you actually while i was watching the movie because because you're an obstinate jerk no that's not that's not no i thought of you because i think over time you've written a lot of pieces like this. I've written pieces like this but this desired. It capture a great artists or great acts entire career in one container. And how and how hard that is and have fun. That can be to revisit everything. And how stupid is as an act of creativity. Then you know sparks. Obviously are this maximus pop group. That did not does not have a huge reputation in the united states. And right made this film about these two guys russell. And ron mail and got as many people that he knew he could to just say nice stuff about them over the course of this film and talk about every single album that they made every single album twenty-something albums. Yeah and frankly. I enjoyed it i. It's pretty cool right. Yeah i it. It was shocking to me watching it. I'm a big. They might be giants fan. And i dipped in and out of the spark catalog over the years but never had like the deep dive like coming to do this moment with them. And it's so ridiculous to me watching that movie. That i never have because it's like this is my band like i. It's at the point. That movie makes is like these people influenced so much and even the people who've been influenced are not aware of it like it's i that's the other great thing the other great sort of genre of music like i said it's like you should know these people. These people are way more important than you thought they were. Even if you never heard of them and i think this is a perfect example of this. Can i ask you if he hadn't been in it. Which obviously edgar wright is both voice like as a talking head at one point. Would you have known that it was him directing or would you have known that was like an autour director because music. Docs don't necessarily have to be like stylish or prestigious. But i this one i was wondering if it did have like the edgar right signature for you. It did that. Question raises a another thought. It did for variety of reasons. Obviously edgar's this kind of like relentlessly creative filmmaker who has just desperate to show you how well he can do something. And frankly i i continue to remain invested in him just kind of pulling out all the stops in every movie and trying to one up himself and this is his version of doing that for music. Docs yeah. the thing that is interesting about this movie is basically violates like all of my rules for documentary making. It's like the directors in the movie the directors voices in the movie a lot. There's so much animation there's also claymation tons of archival and be footage from periods that don't matter that like texture allies but it's megashow e the thing is is that at the most of the directors who deploy those tactics are not talented. They're doing it because they don't have anything else in their bag. Their last resort tricks for edgar. It's this like you know. Robert rauschenberg style version of filmmaking. Where it's just like. I'm gonna put this kind of peace over here and this is gonna have texture. This is going to be paint. And this is going be charcoal and we're gonna mess it all together and when you look at it until talapity when you look at tapestry have created. it's not just a series of tricks that i've pulled. It's a reflection of the wild influence that the band has. And that the that the people who are talking about the band have had on the culture and it shows this kind of expansiveness of their their songwriting in their style. Making the movie pays attention. Also cool stuff you never hear people talk about. The band. has incredible album covers. You don't care about that sort of stuff in these movies you know. The band was really great at being on. Tv shows like american bandstand. Most people are good at that. They're intervals are hilarious on those shows. So it had a really keen sense of the detail that i think music nerves music critics. You know people who dig deep into catalogs would appreciate it admire then you know you know that thing when somebody writes a great sense that has a keen observation in a piece. And you're like oh. They saw it the way that i saw it. And i think that this movie has a lot of that. Oh you know. Eggers see sparks or leasees pop music the way that i see it which is all the little stuff matters as much as the big pop tune so i really i dug it. I watched it a second time. And i was not board as invested. I can't remember the last time. I was as charm to buy a person in a movie. Any kind of movie documentary regular movie. Whatever as ron as in the hitler moustache guy. It's not just a hitler moustache. As you say there is footage of sparseness moby performing like seventy five different european. Talk shows. Y'all across three decades. You know two dozen albums like six seven distinct phases and ron looks the same all at least plan his keyboard and he's got the mustache but it's just the deadpan. Look on his face and he sort of looks at the camera and then he looks back at the keyboard and you could just do a super kite of him. Going you know from nineteen seventy five to two thousand five you know. It is bouncing around europe or whatever and just staying so true himself even as he's just changing everything about himself and his band with every album. He was just a a supremely delightful person to spend two and a half hours with it almost feels as if he was born that way looking that way and this is you know he's just such a self zest perfectly formulated rock and roll persona and perfect. Contrast was brother. they're great. I had this everything you said. I felt the same way. This is a band. I knew about and i had heard of a few songs. I never did the deep dive. I was aware of their cult status and now we have this totemic owed to them. That's cool to have so. Let's let's let's let's go to orleans. I you know this this. This is meaningless These are these anti yes. Let's put this at the top or bottom of the meaninglessness sale. This show should be called extra meaningless. Now that i think about it but nevertheless You chose five. I chose five. Unsurprisingly we have crossover onto. Because i think the to i guess technically three two slash three that we have or frankly they would make lists of my favorite movies of all time. Let's start with your number five. Where are you going my number five is dave chapelle party From two thousand five. Michelle gandhi who. I'd i'd forgotten. He was the director. Which sort of adds to the two thousand five of it all This is a documentary of a summer. Two thousand four black party in bed stuy brooklyn thrown by dave chapelle and it has just the purists. Let's put on a show. Delightful vibe i can remember. I saw this theater in two thousand five in california. I think just the warmth just a phenomenal hang of this movie. I you know kanye west. The roots talib qualley mos def dead prez the fujii's reunited and i hadn't seen it since i saw it in the theater and i was worried returning to it. Now that like the intervening fifteen years you know on the ups and downs of chapelle and kanye and everybody else would sort of effect the way i took in the movie now but the that warmth is undiminished. You know i. It's such a delightful and heartwarming movie. I tear up. Every time you know he's hanging around in dayton ohio davis and he finds a marching band. Late part of the contrivance like did he just stumble across this marching band. Like i doubt it. You know but still. There's a moment when the marching band director gets to tell the marching band. Like we're gonna get on a bus and go to brooklyn and you're going to play. Jesus walks with conway just appeared delight. The celebration you know the super bowl. Winning celebration of the ban in that moment is such a beautiful thing. You know the roots. Doing you got me with jill scott and erica bye. Do which if you know the history if you're invested in that is a very profound and lovely moment and just chapelle being chapelle like just the who else do you want to spend an hour and a half with under any circumstances than japan like. He gets in a rap battle with that guy. Who's wearing a free tibet t shirt and he says. I bet that was a free t shirt like. This is a phenomenal movie. I love it so much and it's just it's just it's a.
"robert rauschenberg" Discussed on The Wise Fool
"Something much bigger. They wouldn't actually work very well being huge installations. I think that because they're small. It functions bessie so it was decide. Which pieces should be small which should be big depending on what the subject is what i want people to get from it all right. I'm reminded when i look at your work of some of the. I i think it's the newer work of idris. Khan i'm always interested like do are two people who worked similarly know each other. They're no address. You don't know just okay. That's fascinating none of this good. I've seen some of his works this online. He did painting for a long time to photography for a while in his early career but more in about five years ago he started doing a layers of text on glass that were creating these very explosive looking things that have a strong similarity to some of your works. And so that's why. I was just wondering if you're aware because i 'cause when i was in school i remember make i. Did this work that. I'm so proud of i was like oh look. I came up with this really cool technique. It's really great. I love what it's doing. Mit teacher just turns goes robert. Heineken did that in the nineteen sixties. Mike god damn. I thought i was being so imaginative and creative and fucking. Somebody did it forty years before me. So i'm always interested about like what we do. We know about what influences us or how we're connected to things i've seen this accounts. Work that soar incentive images of it. It's i mean he's doing something different. Just because it's with layers so you know it's not something i can only say but interesting to see what people do with layers of me. I think of it as a kind of a new folks thinking on the new way of representing something which you know. There's so many possibilities. People have used canvases for so long and econom- edging one person that painted on a canvas originally then saying hey Paint on a canvas. you know. that's that's what i do. Just come to learn of the differences in it. i think we'll see a future laird. Work excited to see that. I just hope that you know people have seen my contribution to that just to be clear you were doing it as far as i can. See on your cv prior to him. Doing the works on glass. So you were. I as far as i'm concerned my first layered work was actually in nineteen nine nine. Yeah no he i. His first layered piece. I saw his twenty thirteen twenty fourteen something in that range. So it's been interesting like history of people doing things in layers. The more looked into in learned. That robert rauschenberg did a series on with lithographs which are kind of interesting but i. I actually didn't come across them until probably ten years ago. I'm really trying to push his kind of creating a new kind of way of thinking like different the different than thinking in photography or Thank as a space thinking as kind of a new form of perspective. When you think of linear perspective you know that was an invention way back and people would represent depths through lines going to arise in point like one told me about but this is a different way of thinking this is like working on picture planes the individual sheets but through space animation. That done that. You know the to create the sense of backgrounds to curate creating a nice flurry background by positioning that image. For the back we've seen layers to to create. Let's say at ocean looks like it's moving with different layers of water. But i think it's love more potential to it and open over. My lifetime can really really explore all the different ways to do things if you don't mind me asking how old are you forth to okay. I'm forty seven. That's good age right finishing up. So i had these questions that i generally ask so one is. Are there three artists that you're looking at these days. Honestly i absolutely love my brothers work my brother in. He's a maybe just said it that part but no not even that in so my brother he is i think. He's the best portrait artist in the three d world digital poetry. He's really become one of the pioneers. His absolute most groundbreaking work and he's just done recently. A portrait of me which it's so so realistic the most people just when they see it they dismiss it as just a photograph fully three dimensional portrait in the world of three d often the special effects industry has been a big part of it but primarily people when they would represent a face. There would have it like very static but coming for an art background. Wanted to make three d portraiture like field. He started making these portraits of our family. Hyper realistic like you really would bill to tell that. It's not photgraphy looking at. But he's really. He's like managed to create a zone following and for three deport deters really quite groundbreaking away. We discuss the implications of portraiture with technology. And what you know as an art form made my brother discuss so many different ideas are often helps me make my works and anyway he's definitely for me. Pori my favorite artists. You older or younger is two years younger other artists that i really admire. I think. I don't wanna sound too cliche but i love all free license work. He's done some quite groundbreaking works on perception. I've always admired the work of each kapoor. James tyrrell. But i actually am interested. Also let's about third history to slow you down just to be clear. I'm asking more contemporary.
"robert rauschenberg" Discussed on Radio Survivor Podcast
"So it's it's droning in a an. It's changing the The people often say that the weather is making the sound of. That's really inaccurate. A statement that really sounds being generated. This i've built a sin. Generates an f major quarter will drown or you can shifted to different Cords one release. You right now is at major. So you've got the root third the fifth in the high octaves and those Notes are being pushed and pulled in and filtered through various classic analog circuitry inc by changes in the different tone of the weather. That's the nut show explanation of what's happening beautiful and so let's you can build this thing and enjoy it yourself. Other people could do this. But you've You've essentially also turned it into a web streaming online radio station. Is that right. Yeah the real. I think the the real importance of this project in the epiphany that i had i had this idea forever and a been kind of working on it forever and i did A big residency of my first one ever Our residency in kept tv florida. It was a robert rauschenberg residency. And i went there to work on this weather center. I i knew what i was going to do. I had two circuits and handle the pieces to build and then As i began doing it. I realized about my first thought was like how can i make this smaller and cheap and manufacture it for people to buy two you know. Wouldn't it be cool to be able to go get a hardware store. A weird weather drone help you get to sleep at night and wacky invention and then it hit me literally in the middle of the night. Black light bulb by this should stream for free. It should be free. I should make 'cause i was holding myself back from building the best one i could build. I was constantly thinking like cheaper component smaller. How can i cut corners here to make it affordable for your regular person and maybe it seems obvious that somebody else. But it wasn't obvious to me and i was like i know this needs to be radio. Free radio online radio all the time currently changing forever. And then i can make the ultimate deluxe one and i can don't have to cut any corners can do do the craziest circuits i want and add the wildest you know additions and it just is part of this kind of shared project and that was really That that kind of changed a lot of my thinking about everything that that idea to make it public and free and streaming and that is available to us now for fairly cheap. Pay maybe thirty bucks a month for my for somebody else.
"robert rauschenberg" Discussed on Alley Chats
"Help it. It's a it's a passion project will of of love and. Tears and pain that Cameron I have put into this but we also have an incredible team Cameron mentioned the sugar gamers they are A. Primarily female south side Chicago primarily black. Gaming Organization that has lasted for the last eleven years and has helped us play test acts on punk how to do it well, get that also cyberpunk hip hop flavor in there and do it well, and so and how do you do what you do it with a team and that's really the lesson we've taken with acts on Punk, and so we've. Got A. Great Team of a dozen people at this point now, and so cameron I are kind of taking the lead on this stuff, but it's it's a it's a total team effort. So every time every every dollar and every share you put into the kickstarter goes such a long way to help out get new people into the tabletop world. So yeah. Yeah. So. So what camera you're the artist on this when I interviewed Colin on go fund this where we talk about the the kickstarter and got into real details. So if you want to hear about it definitely check out that show it's go fund this and I think it's the last or next to last show that I put up there. So we try to keep them real time there's only three days left to this kickstarter so you definitely want to listen through on that one and It but but Cameron your the artists on this. One of the things we talked about with Colin was how striking the art was I was really Found myself just digging through it on the kickstarter page You're primarily an artist, right? Yes that is actually what I went to college for that is what my first degree is in. I got a bachelors in Fine Arts and Photography and multi mixed media because this was still a little pre computer. and we were doing a lot of dark room chemistry at the time. So it was really really crazy darkroom chemistry wonderful wonderful like weird science and so we used to do a lot of stuff like that. So I was really really inspired by all of these really wonderful older photographers that had kind of. Pushed me through like a good example is a gentleman named Ernest withers and he did these amazingly wonderful handed street photography. But on all over the south for about sixty years during the civil rights era I remember looking at his stuff and it was the most intense like amazingly thrilling artwork I ever seen There was also another one of Andres Serrano when he actually went and did. The KKK project in the south, and he took these very very serious portraits of these KKK members and as a black man for Andrea Serono to travel to the south and do this and getting physically see these things as I was finding my art like this was the art that was like hanging the galleries and Fort Worth and Robert Rauschenberg and Sherman, all of these wonderful artist Carrie may weems Lorna Simpson like these. The major influences that brought that might mentor is brought to me and that I had when I was growing up. So this amazing like urban, cultured street photography that took so many risks like people that were above and beyond braver than I could ever be And so a lot of my inspiration for arts and why should do art the way I do is from them because I want to show. Skin texture and hair and and proper proportions. I don't photoshop proportions. I don't Photoshop shoulders. Waist size busts is. Any of those things and I rarely rarely remove hair or adjusted I try and keep the found art that a used for acts on concord photos of the team members that we've used like the photos of Kisha for the cover or wonderful members of sugar gamers that posed for a lot of the is i. want to keep them and Take them out of their cyberpunk experience and making them as as artistic expression as I can but also keeping their humanity within that and and the things that make them beautiful within themselves. That's what I enjoy the most. And so excited to do this one in color because it frees me up so much on I have said, the colors are really striking to. I'm so proud because secret about I am partially clear blind just like mildly. So this is a big fall into the rabbit hole, and so I'm getting these I don't see the same colors you guys are seeing on the other end especially when it comes to purples and pinks. So I, am hoping that other people are experiencing this art but that's that's such a cool like Double Lens for me when I'm doing color is because it I know it looks different than the way I'm seeing it, which is funny because one of the one of a couple of pictures on the six starter have predominant pink and purples in them. So, this is one of those like acts on punk is about diving and facing fears and either limping away and knowing you survived or overcoming something. So for me in a public setting doing this would so so scary to do color in production especially. Representing this with my own face but. A purples and pinks really important to me for myriad of reasons. But also because it has wonderful queer coding that I grew up with and the purple and pink and these particular colors even though I know that vision I don't see them as well as other people but they code to me when I was growing up in the south leg going to high school and being queer.
"robert rauschenberg" Discussed on Dead Celebrity
"The Reynolds the Fisher and Lord for so long, and they haven't been on the market. It's an educated guess as to what the value might be. Things I do. Framework value is really important to nail home, also because of how fickle and sort of as well defined as is, it's completely undefined in a weird way on a very famous example sort of people fighting with the irs over this ridiculous one. Actually, the art connotation as the row Stromberg. Chase where nor those Robert Rauschenberg piece that had aid a Bald Eagle on it. into the peace, and so when he passed. That was. The piece was worth the value by the IRS as working with hundreds of billions of dollars. And, so the family got hit with this giant tax bill for passing on this four hundred billion dollars, painting, or whatever, but because of black market sell laws because you're not allowed to sell items. Feature endangered species. Thing was unsellable, so it was sort of this weird catch twenty two. That was created of this is worth an enormous amount of money on the fair market value, but actually you can ever sell it because there's no market for it because it's to sell it. And so that's like an extreme example of sort of the ridiculousness, but when the irs you can get into determining a fair market value is not like. I think ten dollars fifteen. Okay, we'll call it twelve and a half. It's it's really handy, quite a quite a big production and can be like. And no pun intended. There's an art evaluation..
"robert rauschenberg" Discussed on KQED Radio
"Up to the Mike well I I compared to whatever but I I think kind of sensitive to emotions you know and and and and and and just little things including little grimaces which indicate that someone else is lying here's a difference I sense just to complete this sort of look at what you can and can't do all over can remain I want to ask you about things you written twenty two years ago a lot of times if you talk to an author about something they wrote twenty two years ago they give you a sad look of you know all that was a long time ago but you seem to remember much of what you have learned you seem to remember very little of what you have before like when you were in high school it was time to take the test drive you once described me a an all night bath tub no I I used to kind of sensory deprivation tank in order to memorize things and and it's very hard for me I've still got I don't know how to add or subtract without using the spots on domino's the visual system I still don't know the multiplication tables I didn't take algebra geometry physics or chemistry at the junior college in my home town did not have not taken every taxpayer son or daughter I could never have gone to college one zero the but that's the coping part of this for both of you it's been kind of interesting because both you were very very smart so you just put your intelligence where you have to be one of the great quotes I've ever heard is from well the the great painter Robert Rauschenberg who was all the more about the most learning disabled the selected person I've ever known and he said when here this way you have to find other venues for your intelligence right you have to prove to teachers and even though you're not gonna be able to spit back the name or names or dates thank you that you care about the material and we have to prove to the people who we see that we care about them even though we're not going to recognize their faces and maybe you remember their names so you have to be charming you have to be a book you have to be fast on your feet and figure out how you're going to explain your way out of the fact that the dog know who they are remember you find people calling you like a snob or I mean like it's like what do you mean you don't know me I'm the host of this dinner party kind of thing yes I'm usually in my my assistant cakes will say to people beforehand before they come in don't ask if if he remembers you if you say no to me she says don't just say no say hi I'm hopeful the faces I didn't recognize my own mother I'm not I am but I'm not good at yeah I I I I tend to withdraw you withdraw so you you solve it by going into a corner not talking to anybody well it doesn't solve this I just have to make some works by Tom my approach is to be more outgoing more friendly whatever and to try and charm my way through things and I also lecture and talk all the time about phase one this and my other problems so that people are aware of that I have them on hand they'll cut me some slack thank you you go out like every chance you can run and you stay in every chance you can't right mmhm well moreless I don't stay in but hi the other things besides human beings win win for example when I first visited Australia I came back with with hundreds of photos and people look for his missing guest but didn't meet any human beings books all my photos were of scenery and plants well I I'm very at home and I I noticed that when you get in the elevator in your apartment you don't have any idea who the neighbors are but you do look down right I know their dogs and.
"robert rauschenberg" Discussed on KQED Radio
"I looked up to the Mike well I compared to whatever but I I think kind of sensitive to emotions you know and and and and and just little things including little grimaces which indicate that someone else is lying here's a difference I sense just to complete this sort of look at what you can and can't do all over can remain I want to ask you about things you written twenty two years ago a lot of times if you talk to an author about something they wrote twenty two years ago they give you a sad look of you know well that was a long time ago but you seem to remember much of what you have learned you seem to remember very little of what you put like when you were in high school it was time to take the test drive you once described me a an all night bath tub no I I used to kind of sensory deprivation tank in order to memorize things and it's very hard for me I still I don't know how to add or subtract without using the spots on domino's the visual system I still on all the multiplication tables I didn't take algebra geometry physics or chemistry at the junior college in my home town did not have not taken every taxpayer son or daughter I could never have gone to college one zero but that's the coping part of this for both of you it's been kind of interesting because both you are very very smart so you just put your intelligence where you have to be one of the great quotes I've ever heard this from other the great painter Robert Rauschenberg who was of the about the most learning disabled the selected person I've ever known and he said when here this way you have to find other venues for your intelligence right you have to prove to teachers and even though you're not gonna be able to spit back the name of the names or dates thank you that you care about the material and we have to prove to the people who we see that we care about them even though we're not going to recognize their faces and maybe you remember their names so you have to be charming you have to be a book you have to be fast on your feet and figure out how you're going to explain your way out of the fact that you don't know who they are remember that you find people calling you like a snob or I mean like it's like what do you mean you don't know me I'm the host of this dinner party kind of thing yes I'm usually in my my assistant cakes will say to people beforehand before they come in don't ask if if he remembers you if you say no to me she says don't just say no say hi I'm hopeful the faces I didn't recognize my own mother I'm not I am but I'm not good at yeah I I I I tend to withdraw you withdraw so you you solve it by going into a corner not talking to anybody well it doesn't solve this it is tough to makes it works by Tom my approach is to be more outgoing more friendly whatever and to try and charm my way through things and I also lecture and talk all the time about face blindness and my other problems so that people are aware of that I have them and have them they'll cut me some slack but when you go out like every chance you can run a new stadium every chance you can't right mmhm well moreless I don't stay in but hi the other things besides human beings and when when for example when I first visited Australia I came back with with hundreds of photos and people look through his head yes but didn't meet any human beings books all my photos were of scenery compounds where I'm very at home and I I noticed that when you get in the elevator in your apartment you don't have any idea who the neighbors are but you do look down right I know that dogs and.
"robert rauschenberg" Discussed on WNYC 93.9 FM
"Mike well I they compared to whatever but I I think I'm a sensitive to emotions you know and and and and and just little things including little grimaces which indicate that someone else is lying here's a difference I sense just to complete this sort of look at what you can and can't do all over can remain when I ask you about things you written twenty two years of a lot of times if you talk to an author about something they wrote twenty two years ago they give you a sad look of you know well that was a long time ago but you seem to remember much of what you have learned you seem to remember very little of what you like when you were in high school it was time to take the test right you once described me a an all night bath tub no I I used to kind of sensory deprivation tank in order to memorize things and at this very hard for me I'd still go I don't know how to add or subtract without using the spots on domino's a visual system I still don't know the multiplication tables I didn't take algebra geometry physics or chemistry at the junior college in my home town did not have not taken every taxpayer son or daughter I could never gone to college one zero the but that's the coping part of this for both of you is been kind of interesting because both were very very smart so you just put your intelligence where you have to be one of the great quotes I've ever heard this from other groups the great painter Robert Rauschenberg who was of the about the most learning disabled the selected person I've ever known and he said when here this way you have to find other venues for your intelligence right you have to prove to teachers and even though you're not gonna be able to spit back the name of the names or dates that you that you care about the material and we have to prove to the people who we see that we care about them even though we're not going to recognize their faces but and maybe you remember their names so you have to be charming you have to be a book you have to be fast on your feet and figure out how you're going to explain your way out of the fact that the dog know who they are remember you find people calling you like a snob or I mean like it's like what do you mean you don't know me I'm the host of this dinner party kind of thing yes I'm usually in my my assistant cakes will say to people beforehand before they come in don't ask if if he remembers you if you say no to me she says don't just say no say hi I'm hopeful the faces I didn't recognize my own mother I'm not I am but I'm not good at yeah I I I I tend to withdraw it withdraw so you you solve it by going into a corner not talking to anybody well it doesn't solve exit is tough to makes it works but my approach is to be more outgoing more friendly whatever and to try and charm my way three things that I also lecture and talk all the time about phase one this and my other problems so that people are aware of that I have them in hand they'll cut me some slack but then you you go out like every chance you can run and you stay in every chance you can't right well moreless I don't stay in but hi the other things besides human beings come on win win for example I first visited Australia I came back with with hundreds of photos and people look through admins had yes but didn't meet any human beings books all my folks as well see anyway compliance why I'm very at home and I I noticed that when you get in the elevator in your apartment you don't have any idea who the neighbors are but you do look down right I know their dogs yeah.
"robert rauschenberg" Discussed on WGN Radio
"Iranian general civil money was plotting an imminent and sinister attack before he was killed in the U. S. strike in Baghdad the president made his comments today the first comments after the attack that killed the leader of Iran special forces there are concerns it will escalate tensions in the Middle East but the president says that was not the intent we took action last night just stop a war we did not take action to start a war the US is sending another thirty five hundred troops to the Middle East please have two people of interest in the deadly case of a south suburban couple found tied up in there trunk police say in June two men followed sixty three year old Francisco rondo home from the store in the back of the yards neighborhood to create a zip tied he and his wife inside the trunk of their car and rob them around the died before being found the United Methodist Church says it is expected to split up over long standing disagreement over LGBTQ inclusion it's one of the largest religious denominations in the US WGN sports Blackhawks symbols are often I college basketball one game in the big ten Wisconsin is at Ohio state your money on WGN the Dow was down two hundred forty one points the nasdaq down sixty five and the S. and P. five hundred down eighteen I'm Stever tread on Chicago's very own seven twenty WGN this is the deadline to show this is G. filling in for Anna she will be back next week on Monday right now I have Patrick McDonald for box movies and I hear you are a fantastic movie guy thank you yes I am no not that seeing your praises so you're gonna have to recommendations for us for this weekend well just the openings this weekend so I do have a couple films right now and the the main ones the grudge uses a horror film this is been done twice in Japan once here in America and the rebooting the American version it's that good I did the screenplay is so fabulous I guess the story is just so overwhelming that producers can continue to raise money to film this once again yeah because you can make them on the cheap and you can make a lot of money if you just get a nice wide release so one of the things I think isn't indicative of a film is when you look at the cast me see people in the cast you really like like Andrea Reese borough Damien Bashir John showing Jackie we were not be cheering weaver both Oscar nominees so you see good people in the cast you say you know that's a good indicator that movies good now this is very very creepy but it's one of those or films said you know once it's cake and eat it too you know it's one of those situations where yes there's some good scares in it but to what end we need a cohesiveness here but still I I think if you like horror films three and a half out of five for the rug three and a half out of five yes I am not a fan of horror you know that's not my John row of expertise but being a movie guy I've seen my share of them you know you have to do it it's your job Klay we appreciate the uterus I tend to be someone after I've seen a scary movie to not be able to sleep at night R. I. imagination gets away from me which Kerry movies have you seen that really affected recently I've just seen the trailers and commercials and it's been in the reboot of it all of the really scary movies where there's zombies crawling upside down on ceilings is enough just the trailer alone the movie us just the trailer of the movie when it starts to play on television on HBO I'm a I'd have to turn it immediately because I'm already creeped out well a lot of the things with horror films now since you have the digital imagery and special effects you can go farther and farther but that doesn't necessarily make it better film because the second yet for example the first is when these people were kids the second is when they're adults and when they're adults ages port on the special effects are not as good a movie but well do you have I have a dense documentaries this more of your I have no reason may dance at all but we're learning a lot about I know this watching dancers I am fascinated by dancers this is a perfect movie to see it's called Cunningham it's a documentary it's filled in three D. M. by first time director Alan code given it's about dance artist Merse Cunningham maybe ever heard of him no I haven't heard of them either and but he was one of those guys of the merged after World War two this is an interesting fact about the film that I didn't realize after World War two with ally Europe kind of in tatters New York City became the center of the avant garde you know we're talking forty six forty seven forty eight and that's where Merse Cunningham came into play just Google ten yeah there you go he reigned as an innovator from the nineteen fifties for th two thousand nine the year of his death at age ninety he was known as a collaborator with some of the most cutting edge artists of the late twentieth century including Robert Rauschenberg Andy Warhol crying E. no radio head and his partner John Cage who is one of the great of a guard composers he was his partner toes death so both the archive footage in the mire interpretations of his pieces look amazing in three days and that's with the director told me works best for dance choreography I was thinking about the range of artists that he works with and if you think about how long he was alive right it just everything that the the changes in our ten and we think about the scene in NYC I mean you know they're the possibilities in the forties fifties sixties or expensive and even when I took a downturn seventies you know Basquiat emerged in the Keith Haring I'm excited to see that's when it's good I love documentary history and this is gonna be even to I love dancers I'm just in awe of that well as she recreates some of his dances in three D. and it's just spectacular I I I can't recommended more four out of five four Cunningham four out of five AM wondering is there anything that the five out of five for this week well you know I there's a couple of films in the theaters right now which I would give five out of five nineteen seventeen have you heard about this when the lan war one film I have heard about it yes a Sam Mendes who did American beauty has to war war one soldiers a crossing the the lines to warn their comrades the Germans have set a trap for them it's all done supposedly in one shot the I. A. E. he manipulates I think the editing was looks continuous looks continuous well I decided you gave it five out of five five of the five it's a it's a anti war if it's excuse me it's a war a war film that is an exemplary anti war statement because of its scope you know there's waste there's frustration there is great cameos movie reviewer are you watching closely to see if we could catch the scenes of the editing well I mean I think once you start doing that you take yourself out of the whole experience other films that you know I'll be watching and certainly they do something and boom I'm out of it and that's it you know once you you you you step out for a second very hard to get back in so yeah I I was just watching it for the experience essentially but I I was I you know I have to applaud mentors for giving an experimental twist a little bit about on guard yes go there's a theme and I'm cut gems with the Adam Sandler yeah we've been hearing so much about uncut gem Mazen also trailer I was gonna go see the movie over the weekend and I wasn't able to find time to do so but it is deserving of all the absolutely and and Sandler's deserving of all the praise he is beginning to I I do believe he's going to be a top runner in the Best Actor category and I know everyone was talking about Adam Sandler and this is a very different type of Adam Sandler you're going to see in the Rosie and then of course everyone would say well what about punch drunk love but this is very different than the crater in punch drunk love as well absolutely I think in punch drunk love they were just trying to kind of go to the serious side of his angry character this is not this is a full character this is a GM dealer in New York City who's a gambling addict and has one big score to do and he can get everything straight so it's like a bunch are rushing cars at her her ours problems all the sudden heading for the pilot distressing and anxiety that I felt from just watching the trailer and the fact that he just so many people so much money in and it seemed as though the people that he owed we're coming at him to do bodily harm to him yes much as a summation my palms were sweating yeah and and you're in your view like sweaty palms are gonna do that throughout the entire picture and it has Kevin Garnett in it the old basketball player who retired in twenty sixteen he plays himself as one of the people who who want this gem that Mister Sanders character possesses I did see him in the trailer is yeah yes any any other anything else you wanted to mention that we should check out well I I I just you know we're talking a bit jazzy and I about Star Wars and I did go see Star well this is this but it's been controversial this this open with the least amount of box office and this is how the score films now but you know again it just quickly if they it was the opposite thing the the fans like this movie bear in the critics and the previous movie last year that the critics liked it better than the fans so you know we have this mix of emotions going on in that I did some digging and found out the editor of of Star Wars the rise of sky Walker told a very very pressure filled situation with director J. J. Abrams to finish this film not to mention the committee that gets together a Disney and said you have to have these mini lightsaber battles yet that these many space battles think about the stock broke this story so you know what what started as a mythology with George Lucas has become something that is made by committee orchard big business and unfortunately you're gonna get a split reaction now I like the film I was gonna ask you Patrick I did I I what about the Carrie Fisher scenes well you know I mean we're kind of like keyed into that now if they're not distracting and and I think they give her a pretty good send off if you will I I I I get a little weird it out by when they make people on the animatronics but it's it's it's so small that you can't help it it's just I I I I guess I I guess I was hooked into the emotion right but I I can see where people wouldn't like it because there are some just parts that relate there's just too much going on folks I need less with the rebellion the general valiant group and more with Kylie ran and aren't you like I I'm almost ready to go to the dark side of the heroes in this you could never because you're one of our heroes thank you so much and Patrick where can we find your review.
"robert rauschenberg" Discussed on KCRW
"Life maybe you want to make our Robert Rauschenberg or have a kind of flat bed picture plane of a hamburger on focaccia and everyone can add their own toppings and have it be a kind of communal enterprise and maybe that would be a really interesting new tradition to start from conceptual artist in cook S. Detroit and we're going to learn about the sub conscious messages behind those call colors at the LA Auto Show that's all coming up first up though it is being a time of loss in LA architecture this Paul Saturday deal no extra son of the hugely influential early modernist architect Richard Neutra well he paused Dion had spent decades preserving his father's legacy and then there was ray campi who died Thursday at age ninety two way Cappy was the architect of stoning houses and other buildings who also founded a highly original school he was concerned with environmentalism before most people had heard the term he also saw his career get eclipsed by a feisty younger generation and then he made a comeback that kept him busy until the end of his life today we're going to hear about that life wait happy is to me one of the more influential most influential and southern California architect this is Joe added he was co founder of the a plus de museum which mounted an exhibition of copies work back in two thousand and four he's carried on the tradition of the experimental southern California architecture through the works of people like Greg Ellwood and damn Schindler and now I tracked into I think its most refined contemporary and expression and to may have ray is been able to synthesize all these ideals into at working level long Amagi texture and obviously we know ray as a great educator when he was born in Minneapolis he studied at Berkeley he moved to LA and he started his own firm in Santa Monica in nineteen fifty three he went on to design over one hundred homes many post and beam inside outside and open plan in the California molten tradition in nineteen sixty two he and his wife Shelly board to steep locked in rustic canyon the seventeen thousand dollars the LA times reports because it had been deemed on buildable and he commenced work on his masterpiece a four thousand square foot house for his family an amazing composition of split leveled open plan flows of flying staircases and views up down in out old built in wood concrete and glass and supported on six concrete house over small stream while working on designs like this he was busy teaching and that led to a project would change the course of LA architecture told Ganon was a professor of sialic and he curated an exhibition about that period in nineteen sixty nine he was teach at Cal Poly Pomona and soon had a kind of disagreement let's say with the leadership of the school which caused him to leave the school with several faculty and about twenty five students joining him two forms I Arkan warehouse in Santa Monica in nineteen seventy two Psylocke short for the southern California institute of architecture and also science and architecture the school is now located in the arts district near Morse designers of notes have come through silex tools one of them was the Japanese architect she gave Bon who presented his work to cap he when he could barely speak a word of English and he was admitted on the spot I was talking to thousand and nine way Cappy said the following there was one of my better moments I and many like that because I I really didn't believe in the you know this the leaders system of worrying about with the GPA was and what the SAT scores were and so forth I think in in architecture to the portfolio speak for the the person back to top Ganon well I think ray he had a very interesting attitude he was someone who felt that students should really lead the organization of their curriculum let's say and when stark began it actually had no curriculum this turned out to be a bit of a problem you know ray was a very demanding person he would he was very soft spoken and I think very humble but also I think you have very clear ideas of what he expected it was really in the late nineteen seventies when a kind of tension had really emerged between the generation of people like Eric moss Tom main Michael return D. quite Howard who really formed kind of core younger faculty coalition let's call it and raise generation that's told canon he's head of the architecture section of the Knowlton school at Ohio State University he was a professor at sci arc and Frances Sanderson this is DNA and we're talking about the late way Cappy not one of the renegade young teachers who left Pomona to work inside out with way cap he was tall main you might know his dramatic Caltrans headquarters in downtown Los Angeles he has built around the world and won numerous accolades way he says it was like a father to him he effected didn't help for a lot of young people certainly may well I would have been I have no idea what I've done I'm again I'm twenty six years old I'm twenty seven we're starting sire can it can pull the shape to reshape her shift in my whole life and gave me opportunities and kind of conditions I could ever imagine he was able to develop an institution that was researching in innovating can a state of the art ideas of what architecture of and could arm tolerate and could promote huge differences and so it is even more interesting because it was it was not easy for is he was awesome but we used to have relief flights next morning at breakfast sit down work it out talk about it and we were close the dear dear friends he has a very open idea about how to educate let people follow their own halls of expiration but he's fairly is doctor now the white world I mean he's got a fairly fixed idea about what is the right kind of architecture at least as he produces is not true absolutely it's a really complicated the subject number one because absolutely he had a very clear idea what architecture was he represents the end of an era and California modernism exactly and again he's working with young people that are all kind of a tacky rather than a wasn't simple it wasn't easy for him I'm sure while washing the next generation in nurturing this group of people which is my generation that was domain we're talking about ray Cappy so for Wall Cappies work fell out of favor along with the rest of California's modernist houses we settled into a semi retirement then you got a knock on his door from yes see the fine she's an architect based in Venice to its studied at sialic ari loves raise war and just driving around Santa Monica canyon I always wanted to go and they found the courage to go knock on the door and Shelly warmly accepted me and gave me a tour of the house and I asked a great place to work with him and he said that he's retired and he said can't you see you're merely retired and I said great my number retired I'm never going to let you retire day and between Shelly online so we went to ray's house and gathered to drawing all of their hands on working drawings and knight inked over them now this was in the early nineties and the digital age is just starting but I had no intention of doing so and then we could swim towards together and not only myself but nobody really wanted to leave the building and police work was very memorable in a way that even when you would leave the building it's sort of invoke to their sense of being part of the building so the billing became part of your skin that's yeah Siva five now starting around the time she what with where there was a revival of interest in California modernism and ways what came steaming back into focus it even made it onto a TV series just listen to this clip from an episode.
"robert rauschenberg" Discussed on WNYC 93.9 FM
"At all of it means we are taking a look at the upcoming cultural events happenings in changes you can see in and around our city let's run down a few ways to feed your creative spirit we are starting with the show opening today at the Whitney it's called making knowing crafting art nineteen fifty to twenty nineteen was curated by assisting curators Jenny Goldstine and was but Sherman as well as I'm because trusty curatorial assistant Jenny Elisabeth are in studios now thanks for coming down the street to visit thanks thank you so Elizabeth the show's press release online says quote by highlighting marginalize modes of artistic production these artists challenge the power structures the determine artistic value why is craft personalized considered marginalized it's a great question so in the hierarchy of of the power structures in the art world there are certain materials that have always been more valued painting metal in sculpture print making these things that we can think of when we think about what we go to see and museums and the materials associated with craft be them weaving with fibers making pots with clay have been associated with the domestic with the feminine with things that we make for use in the home and those things have never been valued in quite the same way because of these use functions and their associations again with the domestic and the feminine what causes the shift in the way people think about these materials Jenny when did it start to become possible that these craft materials we can taken seriously well the show begins in the early nineteen fifties and at that time we see a lot of artists including a sour Robert Rauschenberg Lenore Tawney and others thinking about ways that they can expand upon what was then the kind of the main topic of discussion in the art world extraction what ways we could push on that and bringing materials into the mix that hadn't been taken seriously before for a lot of the reasons that Elizabeth just listed was one way to kind of further push on the expectations that people bring to visual art so weaving fiber are springing textiles on to the service of paintings throwing clay and putting paint all over the surface as if it's an extension of a of an abstract painting like Peter will close these are always that artists could think differently about the materials that they were using your or are you a court is saying many of the artists and making knowing have taken up historically marginalized materials in order to up and hierarchies that have persisted in our history and museum collecting practices what do you mean you save up and them so one of the things we wanted to think about was the way in which artists who are sometimes marginalized in the art world often because of gender based discrimination or race based discrimination and of course all the intersections there of would often look to the kinds of materials that were similarly marginalized and it's a kind of pulling from that position finding strength in the politics of that like you don't want this material that's precisely what I'm gonna make my arc where there's a kind of power to that that's again server bilious spirit lake of the most the worst come from museum's collection is that correct so what are the selection process look like it was really fun we started just sort of honestly putting some of these materials search terms into our database hold lots of objects we know you lose like beats yes I agree how many different ways can we talk about clay terra cotta porcelain search all of them search all the spellings of them asked our colleagues for ideas read the contemporary literature put those names into our databases and just pulled less and went to see the objects in our storage that must have been the best field trip ever it was the best whatever it was it was anything required for the show we were able to work to bring some new objects into the collection in fact many of the works in the show are on view for the first time and and that that was something that we were really excited to do to think about you know how best to tell this story that we wanted to tell and were there some new works that we could bring into the mix that would help us do that better and we're so grateful that we've been able to do that historically how his craft been been part of the Whitney it's ebbed and flowed there have been some key exhibitions a lot of people think often about our exhibition of the quilts of cheese band in the eighties there was an exhibition of six west coast ceramics artist and these kinds of shows go back to the earliest history in fact the Whitney did have a folk art collection at one time which it no longer has so it's always been a part of our history but it's kind of come up and then flown float away because of the current tastes is there an intersection and I don't know if this is a real intersection or not between craft art and outsider art and self taught art or we really talking about fine artists just using craft materials that's a really excellent question in our case we're just talking about fine artists using craft materials because that's what the Whitney collects but had we done a different show with loans had if another institution takes up this topic that's certainly an area really right for exploration the name of the show is making knowing craft in art nineteen fifty two thousand nineteen opens at the Whitney today my guess our system curators Jenny Goldstein and Elizabeth Sherman so how do you think what social and political issues are tackled in the show a fair number some of them are tied to that questions with individual our discourse so the kind of radical nature of abstraction which I mentioned before or at questions of the popular culture in the nineteen sixties or how do we throw away all the rules about painting and sculpture which is also something that artists were invested in in the nineteen sixties but of course by the early nineteen seventies one of the major political movements that influence artists and is apparent in this exhibition is feminism kind of Ansett of second wave feminism and the ways in which artists who are facing gender based discrimination in the art world grappled with that and then on into the nineteen nineties we see works in the exhibition that take up the the kind of crisis that so many artists were facing at the height of the aids crisis so how to deal with questions of devotion and religion and the politics of care so many of these issues come up in the show and then on into the nineties and through to the present questions of identity or so on the minds of so many artists and these materials offer a way in for many of the artists that we've been featuring in this project ways to question our sense of self in the world how do we identify how do we relate to each other how do we live in the places that we are and that's all reflected in the in the street with Whitney what's a piece that does reflect that idea of the the craft itself and that the material itself lending to someone expressing identity is there one particular piece you could give an example there are many I think one piece that comes out first in mind is maybe ask culture by Jeffrey Gibson who's using I am a number of materials and ways of working that come from his native American traditions he's using beating jingles from power while costume decorations but he's using them in a way that's completely new very specific to his ideas and his sense of the particularities of who he is as a person in the world today what about the piece kitchen tell for the piece kitchen that's another example that gets at your question kitchen as a large scale sculptural installation by an artist named lies Lou and it's a work that she started in nineteen ninety one and didn't finish until nineteen ninety six so a five year undertaking it is a full size kitchen a one to one scale kitchen with everything you might expect to find in the kitchen like a stove countertops cabinets a refrigerator table and chairs food out on the counters but every single surface was meticulously covered in beats glass beads one by one by one up into the millions so this is a a project that really takes up this question of the domestic and the decorative and where are women in this kind of story you know what what is the value of women's labor what does it mean to take on an artistic project that has labor at its very core and question the spaces that women occupy or are expected maybe to occupy what are some of the questions you hope that this exhibit brings up for people what you want people to take away from what would you like people to think about after the movie come back and look at again I'm I think they're two primary things for me I mean first I think I want people to think about their own personal history is the things that they grew up with the traditions that they come from in the generations they knew and then also how these how these processes relate back many generations to many people's histories and then also I think we both really hope that people go home inspired to make many of us have either as children or adults worked with these materials had hobbies and we hope that it encourages people to have more freedom in their own sense of self expression some of you Jenny I feel very similarly actually no we really want people to be inspired by this exhibition on a personal level but we also want to give people a way in to American art history from the fifties to the present that might be a little bit unexpected so this is a show that takes you from obstruction to pop art to post minimalism to know feminist politics to identity politics but it does it through this lands of craft whether it's in the materials for the math it's with this kind of political strategy that we've been talking about today so it's a kind of our history lesson which is a big part of what we do but one that takes up materials that you might not expect to see and we hope that people will find inspiration in that such interesting vehicle about those things the name of the show is making knowing craft and art nineteen fifty to twenty nineteen Jenny Goldstine and Elizabeth Sherman thank you so much for coming and giving us a preview thank you yeah much for having us the next stop on this week's Friday run down is a look at the work of a hometown artist the queens native Anthony Benedetto the name sounds vaguely familiar it's because he's got another gig everybody he had twenty time Grammy Award winning singer spoiler alert Anthony Benedetto is one and only Tony Bennett's birth name is also the name he uses when he.