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"robert menzies" Discussed on Between The Lines
"Physicians have merged somewhat Inca that become very similar. And I think you're actually on notice From during of the the advent of political polling. Now which is just to the clinical landscape. I think on a week to week basis. It's not too late in the reading. Your Book Norman. I mean I was thinking to myself you know you think about it from nodding. I one when we become an independent state right through to the outset. The outbreak of World War One nine and fourteen. The country had ten prime ministers mass extrordinary from nineteen sixty six to nine hundred seventy two so from that period after menzies resigned. Just been talking about two nodding seventy two when it came to power. This was the heart of Vietnam War. We had six prime ministers. So doesn't that indicate that long tenures menzies there? An aberration and instability. Is the politics. Well some insane to me now I think we if we look back on the night off the Commonwealth before the The two party system was established. We we still prime ministers come and go Defeated on the floor of the House and I think that was an ability with its own particular explanation and he grew up in the nineteen fifties. Mike Marciel book means. We seem to be prime minister forever. He seemed to be a big strong landscape and he was just what the prime minister should was all about and to electric stinks to the prime ministership of John Howard. So you're writing pointed the longevity something of an aberration but quite remarkable prime ministership Saito. Indeed my guess is Norman ABC Johnson. He's author of the Manning of that manner of the going to the title of the book. The manner of their going. It's about prime ministers and the white I leave power. I liked reading about James Scotland. Prime Minister from nineteen twenty nine. He's elected around the time of the Wall Street crash until nineteen thirty one these tumultuous times and he was asked. Lyda lighter in light of US where they rod he's memoirs twitchy replied quite in nearly killed me to live through it. It would kill me to write about it. I love that law now so more often than not. The voters kicked prime ministers out of office Can you can you name them? All of your head Norman. Well Predicted any second time. He served three terms and refresher who will serve three. Times was feet of you. The polls in the Second Term Joseph Cook Stanley Melbourne Bruce. Jin Skeleton Been Chiefly. Bill McMahon Impreza Kaeding John Howard given rotten day. Now three promises Dodd in office who would I Joseph? Lyons in thirty nine nine hundred. Forty five and unfortunate. How about halt drowning in light? Sixty seven five were defeated on the floor remind US George Raid of the Commonwealth Quick Watson the first Labor prime minister hundred thinking twice suffered that sites Hendrick Fisher in each first term and the most recent was out in nineteen twenty one and of course some promises when not bother ironside. Tillis him Hitler we into treachery secret getting to the real the real the real the blood loss of politics. Would I believe who later? Akaki and joining the nationalist He was removed from office. Because the country probably will be coalition. What's he been a leader? Bob Menzies Nicklaus incarnation in nineteen. Forty one Joey John Gorton in nine hundred seventy one hoax the most accessible Labor prime minister will. I'm in in Nineteen Ninety nine one seven Rodney first. Prime Ministership She's successor Julia. More recently tiny. Abbott Nicholson alone leaks victims and I've really rapidly developed in recent. Tom's of course the one prime minister we haven't mentioned here of course is Gough Whitlam. He was dismissed by the Governor General. And you rise the possible American role in the dismissal in nineteen seventy five now in his review of your book in the Australian the former Labor Senator Steven loosely. He says quote pastas on this program. Loosely says quote neither the C. I. Nor any other agency luckily played a primary or sinister hand in toppling. The struggling with government Stephen Loosely. Further nights quote the Australian establishment from Kurth rephrase it to chief justice SAGAAF. You'll bowie backed overwhelmingly by the strain. Media was more than equal to destroying the library administration. Norm Johnson well lupita smoking guns have been found? I mean It's been a conspiracy theory. If you like that. The the Americans had some hand in that but what is yet to be explained to the the visit to Australia briefly. Nine hundred seventy seven apple. Jimmy took from the Food Administration and Warren Christopher light it becomes secretary of state asked for making with Wickham. I think I missed the Sydney Airport so quickly up to Leave your position with. He's he's secretary. Richard Butler and Warren Christopher said Might a number of points about the Democrats being attornal coffee with the Labor coffee strength and so forth they made the statement according to Buckler. We just wanted to give you an a show that we will never again interfere in Australia domestic politics and it was a very great at according to Buffalo's account Richie guy even the next such whitland stay with them going into the column sit to that outcome right and According to Buckler was still shocked by the dismissal and the giants for their interference victim can sign anything. I mean that that's the closest thing to but it's never been explained why were in. Christopher would make those remarks so what I'm doing is canvassing the landscape you're making it insinuations. But I'm going to say we. We've never found the smoking gun. Look having said that Given series entirely circumstantial and we shouldn't forget line in culture bution. I mean the loans. Which badly handled the ministerial resignations? And that that will have to cut short because we are running out of time and that is another episode altogether. We'll get you back on but listen getting back to the question arises before the quiz question of the day on between the lines nine the one member of the Australian parliament who met Ramiz who is at the current time. But I believe it or not. It's Cain what the indigenous affairs minister. He met Robert Menzies the before. You met him in nineteen sixty four fascinating norman. It's great to have you on the program again. Many thanks as Norman ABC Johnson. He's author of the many of the going he paraphrase tolstoy at the end he says quote or prime ministers in office a similar but h leaves office in his or her own peculiar way. Well that's it for another week off between the lines. It's always great to have you company now. Remember you can download pasta episodes of the show on between the lines website. Or You can get them wherever you get your podcast remember. We've been doing this since two thousand fourteen. It'd be great to have you company again next week on Tom. Switzer can tune in again next week..
"robert menzies" Discussed on Monocle 24: Midori House
"Public like that Karina was a bold move or basically about the play she had left. How did it go. I mean based on what we saw. She was kind of asking for all this confrontation. didn't play out so great for her. Seventy people were selected to speak out of the one hundred fifty and most of them vented their frustration toward her administration her incompetence as a leader some even asking her to step down people were asking questions like why listen to one hundred fifty randomly selected citizens when you won't listen to over two million people who've taken to the streets three-fer question put like that yes us jackson-lee and some have even you know picked on specific incidents like Yunlong attacks when triads appeared at the subway stations and police didn't come in time I am to help people out people said how do you respond to those who've been brutally attacked and beaten up by the police what she like at because it varies enormously from politicians. Titian to politician is she good at dealing with people and at interacting with the public some some politicians have terrific aptitude for some just terrible where does where does she figure on that spectrum. We'll purely based on the past four months. We've seen that you know press conferences. At this dialogue specifically it just seemed like she had a list of responses a list of talking points and regardless of what was thrown out her. She would just say the same thing. She had no empathy not at all for the people. She didn't suggest made an make any suggestion that she would come to any sort of compromise so I mean it's telling of how just truly truly incompetent she has is as leader so if this meeting did not impress the people selected by lottery to be there all that much and it seems very much like it didn't did. Did it have a wider resonance. Did it attract a sympathetic response outside the venue well directly outside the venue. There were there. There were protesters surrounding the area and obviously before this all happened. She said you know this is a peaceful dialogue. I hope that we can come together. We can be be united but she there were riot. Police stationed outside with tear gas and rubber bullets at the ready so for her to to have that station patient there. It's just not welcoming for anyone. No one's going to feel safe. No one's going to feel like they can trust her. and unfortunately it took her four hours to get out of the venue because protesters were just so angry at the way that she handled last night well it is as we go to where either very late on Friday night the very early on Saturday morning in Hong Kong depending on on how you calibrate these things. What are you expecting this weekend in terms of protest so it's going to be the fifth anniversary bursary of the umbrella movement on Saturday tomorrow so and also as as we mentioned previously October first on Tuesday which is the seventieth anniversary of the People's Republic of China and to organize protests have been given the green light so people are allowed to take to the streets. There shouldn't be be violence. We hope that they won't there won't be violence. an speaking to some of the protesters and organizers they say that these upcoming marches are an opportunity for people people to mourn more than anything the lives of those who have been sacrificed for the past seventy years or those who you know the suicides have occurred it over the past four months as well so overall we we shouldn't expect a lot of violence particularly if the police have given the protesters the green light to go forward career choice. Thank you for joining us in just a moment. This is Monaco's house feud do stay tuned and at this point on the house view a shoutout to listeners in Melbourne and indeed Sydney who may find themselves unable to sleep for anticipation of tomorrow's Australian Football League grand final. The Australian state of Victoria is certainly unusual probably unique in observing two public holidays for sporting events one. The first Tuesday of November is Melbourne Cup Day in Fantas. The rest of the country pretty much takes the afternoon off for the race as well the other the last Friday my day in September is Grand Final Eve the day before the climactic match of the Australian football league season for which more than one hundred thousand listened people will fill the Melbourne cricket ground to watch the Premiership decided the football. They're watching is of course Australian Rules Football Australia's earliest peculiar passion the code correctly described by one Australian Prime Minister Sir Robert Menzies as the greatest winter game devised by mortal men the clubs contesting the grand final this year Richmond from the suburbs of Melbourne founded in eighteen eighty five and greater western Sydney kidney from the outer suburbs of Sydney who only joined the AFL in two thousand and twelve a creation of the league at spectacular expense and with generous assistance assistance to further the cause of Australian rules in territory traditionally dominated by rugby league so there are many subtexts to Saturday but one of the weed is that this clash between the Tigers and the giants is also a contest of the two best a fill club songs. Here's Richmond's and here is greater western. Sydney's dowd from the club's songs are a curious quirk uh of the AFL all eighteen clubs have won and they are braid and bellowed by fans in the stands and players in the dressing rooms in the event of victory. The League's older establishment teams have mostly borrowed their's from familiar tunes. Jill lungs is the toreador song from bees as common Be Collingwood's started life as has the music whole standard goodbye. Dolly Gray in Carlton's stately anthem is the minstrel Choon Lily of Laguna and and the Saints Kilda serenade historically infrequent wins with an obvious choice the the canonical versions were recorded in the early nineteen seventies by a choir of Melbourne jazz players wrangled by a record company called fable the expansion of once the Victorian Football League to become the Australian football league during the nineteen eight thousand nine thousand nine hundred ninety s saw new teams added to the competition and therefore four the necessity of new songs in several regrettable instances original works were commissioned these all absolutely sucked and indeed suck still non worse than non more eighty s abomination which fanfares the West Coast Eagles onto the field greater western Sydney's splendid blended swaggering stomp is the work of Harry Angus of Millburn rock band the Cat Empire the no great football fan angus understood what was marvelous about the original clubs club songs an outcome is that blend of match. Oh braggadocio and arch high camp into something that sounds like it might have welcomed Soviet tank divisions back from the battle of Kursk Greater Western. Sydney are a new club with few fans and little history Richmond aren't old club but one of the best supported in the country with with a glorious heritage the two thousand nine hundred nine grand final this Saturday shapes as quite a game innovation versus tradition money versus passion Sydney versus Melbourne but whoever wins will have an appropriately rousing song to sing when the final siren's gone. I am joined now on Nichols Nicole's house view for reasons which will shortly become apparent by monocle research. Nick Milanese who being from Perth may first of all have something to say in defense of West Coast Eagles terrible and stupid stone. I don't I really dinosaurs crooked versatile. I think you'd find that most. West Coast Eagles fans also I think it's terrible so why does it possess because it is objective garbage. It's it's the it's the worst one thousand nine hundred radio rock drivel. It's even got someone playing bass with the thumb which should be a crime punishable Chaba by having the digits zone off one hundred percent agree and really. I think you would find moist paypal do why we persist. I think maybe a stubbornness but like like I was saying earlier when we were chatting about these walls. We're listening to your pace. We are constantly trying to reinvent it like we. We introduced a chant last year at the start of it to try and sort of jazz it. It sounds like a high school sports day. That's what it sounds like now that they've got the chance at the start. Well my attempt to bite you into controversy. There has clearly really failed so we should probably talk about the thing you're actually here to talk about which it says right here on the running order is Milton Keynes This is possibly not some it's ever happened on any of our shows before mcquarry talking about Milton Keynes we are talking about it because I was reporting there for the festival of creative urban living living now now. I don't know if you noticed about Milton Keynes or anything about have you. Have you heard it's been made fun of. It's the punchline for I've been there once. I think I went to see. Ram At Milton Keynes bowl a billion years ago this this cows as well right concrete castle museum I believe that would be concrete. Candles run the museum. No concrete cows are now housed in a museum but that that cuts to the core of Milton Keynes is made fun of four. It's the fact that you know. There wasn't really anything there. There was a joke they couldn't actually have agricultural farm to install concrete cows to make up the numbers it was a place that people didn't WanNa be necessarily it was started in nineteen sixty seven as part of the new towns movement where the British government basically declared a whole heap in new towns around the UK to move people out of the cities to ease overcrowding in them and Milton Keynes I guess became a the showpiece newtown. I know you are skillfully avoiding the question of why you were there. was there okay so. I think so because we're going to give you a little bit of Evan designed background so it was designed in the Garden City Movement where they had lots lots of housing with light industry and agricultural all mixed together in a single development. I guess surrounded by trees. The housing itself is absolutely outstanding. You're surrounded by greenery. There's ample open space at the front and the back of the houses. The issue is visit our you're not experiencing this yours simply driving through one of its many wide roads punctuated by roundabouts and not really getting the tree. Milton Keynes experience so the city council in setting up these festival wanted to try and showcase that so they're inviting people people to come and stay with a resonant to try and get an understanding for what it's like to live in Milton Keynes and why it's so good and is that what you did did you go and stay with some Milton Keynes. I did stay with a lovely eighty year old woman named poulain she we it was a quintessentially English experience we had fish and chips for dinner cool English breakfast in the mornings and Moshi. Oh she pays the night before a cup of tea it was it was delightful so he can intrigue listeners go online and sign up for this they can so the the festival runs from the twenty sixth the September to the thirteenth of October and it's not it's not just the beds united program which is what you spend the night in the city it's also hosted by the exhibitions and events of closed off part of the main street or the Midsummer Boulevard to house an ideas forum for I guess vision in the new future for Milton Keynes because it was it was meant to be a kind of utopia by having all these built you know these buildings surrounded by greenery and and you know it was the advent of the age of the car and they really embrace that but now they've gotta trying I guess envision a new type here and that's why they want to get people in and sharing their ideas and exploring at three this festival we can read all about this in an upcoming edition of Monocle you can I have have a observation at the start of the magazine and you can read about it..
"robert menzies" Discussed on Bloomberg Radio New York
"A Bloomberg business flash thank you Charlie where life in the Bloomberg interactive brokers studio Jeffrey Eckstine will remain behind bars while he awaits trial on sex trafficking charges Manhattan federal judge Richard Berman said this morning that prosecutors had established that Eckstine pose a flight risk and that was at the heart of his decision not to grant him bail joining me is former federal prosecutor Robert Mintz apartment Carter in English Bob Eckstine asked to be allowed to await trial his Manhattan mansion with electronic monitoring and a private security team and pledging his fortune of at least five hundred million dollars as collateral it was expected that he wouldn't get home detention but explain why his case is different from say Bernie made off or Dominique Strauss Kahn who got to stay in what prosecutors referred to as a gilded cage well it really is a decision that is up to the discretion of the judge June so different judges may view the same facts and circumstances differently and some may allow the defendant to remain in home confinement leading up to trial but in this case this fax here really checked off so many of the boxes that would give a judge concern about risk of flight in danger to the community that it was not a surprise that judge Berman did not allow him out the fact that he had so many assets at his disposal cash and diamonds yeah houses all over the country but also internationally and I think the judge was concerned about the fact that there was a false passport in his possession in the safe one I agents went in and raided his house those are the kinds of things that will give any judge pause before he would allow judge a defendant in a high profile case like this to remain out on bail even under those strange in terms for home confinement also the danger to alleged in potential victims of the two alleged victims testified during Monday's bail hearing pleading with the judge not to grant Eckstine bail that almost made it impossible to need for the judge to grant bail here right absolutely what the major factor while while prosecutors made the argument that texting was the extreme flight risk and they said he posed an overwhelming risk of flight it really seems to be the danger to the community prong that the judge looked at that really swayed his decision in fact he testified the judge said today that he was at the heart of his decision and he heard as you said from those two alleged victims about the conduct that the alleged Mister at seeing was engaged in and the judge also knew about some evidence that distress he had wired three hundred fifty thousand dollars to two potential witnesses which also raised the question of potential witness tampering so all of that I think we have only on the judge on the danger to the community crime here and also played a significant role in his ultimate decision so it seems lawyers can seek a review before the federal appeals court in Manhattan but is that really a waste of time and money not that extreme cares about the money aspect of it well can afford issue because obviously the defendant did not want to remain in jail leading up to this trial and from the standpoint of the defense lawyers it is much more difficult to prepare a client for trial when you have to go to jail every time to meet with them rather than to meet with him in his house or in your office so it's likely they will take that shot but on the other hand this is just a discretionary call it something that is largely left to the judge at the trial level so it's highly unlikely that the appeals court overturned judge Berman's decision judge Berman is it known to be a fan of the kind of pre trial housing in a in a you know that the detail home detention for rich defendants in twenty sixteen he there was a similar request for home detention for rich defended and he said it was unreasonable because it helps to foster inequity and unequal treatment in favor of a very small cohort of criminal defendants who are extremely wealthy but my question is will the advantages wealthy defendants have advantages at every stage of a trial proceeding because they have so many resources so should a judge treat them differently at the bail stage well they are treated differently to the extent that one of the issues and bail is risk of flight and one of the ways to rebut risk of flight is to pose significant assets that will be seized by the government if you don't show up the trial so almost by definition those with more assets to post have a better chance of getting out of jail but you're getting out of jail pre trial leading up to the actual trial but as you pointed out you in this particular judge seems to be concerned about what appears to be a two tier system of justice here because in that similar case you're referring to the judge said that that is fostered in equity not equal treatment in favor of a very small group of defendants those who could not only pose significant assets but also someone who could pay for twenty four hour security which really narrow that down to a very small group of defendants judge Berman said that his opinion would be available fairly soon it's going to be a thirty to thirty four page opinion is that the a normal land or usual land for a a bail hearing what a little more involved than the usual bail hearing but there are a lot of issues here because there are a lot of factors that relate to the potential flight risk here has to do with all of his assets the judge was apparently not particularly satisfied with the disclosure made by the defendant so I think there was some concern that there may be other assets out there that weren't disclosed their significant amount of cash they were diamonds there was the raid on his house which found lead photographs that would appear to be under age girls which also concerned a judge to there's a lot of issues and I think the judge wants to be very careful to make sure that his written opinion addresses each and everyone of those things because he knows there's a possibility that the defendants will take this up on appeal he wants to create a very good record for the appeals court to take a look at this issue just about thirty seconds here but is this a big advantage for the prosecution absolutely it would have been I think a major setback to allow this defendant to remain out on bail pending his trial only because the expectation was so high that the judge would not release him so we would have given the the prosecutors a shot at the very beginning of the trial that favor the dissension that was not something that they want to start off with you know what's going to be a very contentious and expensive trials thanks so much Bob that's Robert Menzies apartment Carter in English coming up our poll starting a matter in the twenty twenty race this is Bloomberg this is a Bloomberg market minute you was down to falling as investors weigh mix corporate results 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"robert menzies" Discussed on Between The Lines
"Before Menzies came to power. There was lives. Ben chiefly. He was asked sixteenth prime minister, he came to power after John curtains death towards the end of World War Two now when you think of bench easily, what comes to your mind. Do you think of he's lodge, scowl immigration agenda, summarize with that wonderful question populate or perish? Or do. You think you'd these him Bishop program of such reforms and nation building schemes some psych culminated in planes to nationalize the banks. Will my next guest says chiefly had a cane interest in post will ISSA. He understood better the most ladies at the time, the old colonial order was ending and that Australia had to come to terms with dramatic change in our region, chiefly told shed Britishness and embraced true internationalism. Now. Julie Suarez is author of jibe. Chiefly and. Internationalists just out with 'em you pay. Hello. Julie. Welcome to Iran. Thank you. Tell lovely debate here. Now, there's been award range of scholarly literature on chiefly now you distinguish yourself by doing that chiefly was an odd and internationalised house. Well, I'm actually quoting him from speech that he gave in nineteen forty seven in which he said that he had been an ardent advocate full international organizations, because he believed that through them we were engaging in a great human experiment, which is designed to prevent the catastrophes that result from walls and financial economic depressions. He was huge -ly influenced by the great, depression and will will one and he saw the impact that the warhead. And also the impact that the great depression head, and he didn't want those to be repeated as far as growing up in Beth assed. He was well aware that Australia was very dependent on we'll try, and that's and that's something very very interesting. About him because he's somewhat different to usual trade union leaders because he understood that strategy was depend on world trade and commodities such as wool, and wait, and that makes him very very unusual in terms of the labor movement. And you spend quite a bit of your book on narrow the in years later the time what's a significance of the relationship between. Chiefly and narrow will they they basically had the same worldview both of them rejected that Cold War view of the world that the Americans and the British were pushing chiefly biologically he agreed with narrow that the primary objects. I of the British commercial policy should be to create in countries, exposed communist, influence, social conditions and living standards under which would no longer be likely that communism could flourish. So basically, hey, sighing and sighing also both of them agreed. When they mitt. At the prime minister's conference in London in nineteen forty nine. They rejected that a military intervention. Instead, they said that social conditions living standards had to improve. So you'll only is chiefly is taking issue with this sort of Cold War mentality. That's really starting to develop in certainly Washington. And indeed London during this period, but didn't chiefly indeed he's external affairs minister ever. But if it they clearly supported the creation in the building of the UN as you document in. At the same time to be fatally threat. The light forties deny seek to enjoin Washington in some kind of security pact for the Pacific that deed that yes, yes. But they weren't successful. But eventually with as they did and ever try that it supported delighted support the US law. So I mean, couldn't you argue then that Shiffling if it were if you like realists, plying, the gripe power politics the very same time. I espoused liberal international's principles. You could you could argue that except I think if you look at chiefly you really really need to say that he wasn't internationalised and he did support the United Nations he thought that collective security through the United Nations was the way to go. How would you explain chief lease continued support for imperial defence, even as couldn't his predecessor he continued to insist on it working bidder for Austrian interest in the? Pacific petra. Well, it's quite curious because it does seem strange chiefly with his Arush ancestry would embrace Britishness. But he was a great believer in democracy and Nazism, head represented an enormous threat to democracy in the British. He said had poured it blood and treasury fought for human liberty and freedom an enduring that Great Britain was now on tonight's financially. And unless something was done to restore economic stability. The Buddhist paper would have appeared victory which remained that all these sufferings and sacrifices would have been in vain. There's never mind. He would argue that chiefly was a creature of culture, and that he would have subscribed to this notion of Britishness in a in social psychology. Or I think my British rice patriotism, Julie, couldn't chiefly lock predecessors. And indeed, certainly he's immediate success. Menzies couldn't people are chiefly at the time. See australia. As a bastion of Britishness searching security in that unfamiliar Asia Pacific world, except there is a speech by nine hundred forty four which has been misquoted by some historians who it said that more and more strange coming to the realization that the political futures people was cost in the Pacific. However, they found little sympathy for the point of view in London and strategy felt very much alone. Because the intelligence that thou providing to the British enter the Americans was not hated they felt very much alone because of that, and they realize I had a part to play in the Pacific, but strategy intelligence, and there was a large amount of intelligence that we gained about our Niger's that it wasn't paid attention to by the British and and the Americans so when chiefly in curtain describe the stralia as quote. A best June of British speaking rice that that was just language in reality are actually more guys with the is Pacific chiefly was for sure because he he saw for example. India he sought that India would lead the nations he also saw India later on as a huge democracy, and the say sorting terms of security in the region. It would provide a walk against communism. He also so nations as potential trading partners. And he said that this was a huge opportunity for stray. And you might see a lot about chief lease rejection of the then British Prime minister Clemente's requests for the British government's Wisden union policy. What's the name of that? Will I think it really confirms? The fact that chiefly had very different view of the world site to. British Prime minister at Lee, and he would I mean, the west noon was was saying as a European bulwark against communism who is chiefly saying Australia as being part of civic Indo Pacific region and have to use that term in an interview that he gave with giant Sanni an Indian journalist. So he has a very very different view of strata, and it surrounds and its neighbors to Egli, and he couldn't see the sense the ustralia should join be part of the western on your sign. Gone shipley. Supported substantial Australian economic assistance to a batted post will British economy. This was in the form of I think it was strolling bulk purchases of British goods so with that contradicts your faces. It doesn't really because as I said previously. Chiefly a great believer in democracy and Britain had stood up alone and fought the Nazis who represented an enormous. Threat democracies and the result was at Great Britain was on its nice financially and economic stability needed to be restored to Britain. And that's that would be why he supported this. And on another night. You could argue certainly that under chiefly Australia supported the Indonesians against the Dutch. Although you could say that was only off the way to the realize, I shouldn't those European empires. Weren't going to flood back into the region after World War Two will leave very early realized that the imperial will was ending. And I've got a speech that he gave to an off the record speech league to journalists in October nine and forty five and this is just after become prime minister where he accused the Dutch of opportunity realism, and what he said that the Dutch would doing that. I thought that I could let the allies mop-up the Japanese and then the Dutch could move in and. Retake the colony but shoo flee oppose this. He understood that Australia needed to be friends with intonation, and he understood that the imperial world was ending. My guest is Julie Suarez. She's the author of jibe a chiefly and Arend internationalists. That's just outwith immu p Julie chiefly time in power of coincides with the Truman presidency in the United States, Harry Truman, of course, enunciated the Cold War doctrine of Kentucky. I think you have a photo of Truman with chiefly on the cover of your book was chiefly also a cold warrior was he a pacifist. Or is it more complicated? He wasn't a pacifist. He was not a cold warrior. He he rejected that Cold War view of the world that the Americans and the British were pushing he thought that it was much better for Asian countries to improve social conditions, and they live in standards, and if that occurred, then communism could not flourish. And you could argue that during this period, this is the nineteen forties. So the couldn't and chiefly ear that period essentially between the Menzies prime minister ships from forty one to forty on. It was bird Everett who is more or less than charge of a strong foreign policy during this period does chiefly compliment or does he distinguished? He's worldview from. Hey, there were certain differences. Chiefly sent William McMahon bowl to Indonesia to gain intelligence about what was going on in Indonesia. He needed to look at what was going on in terms of Indonesian nationalism. And to check out the Indonesian leaders, and this was in non in forty five November nineteen forty five McMahon bowl when he came back. Chiefly a maiden and arrangement to mate ball and chiefly asked him. Did he agree with Everett's statement that Australia shoot go to Indonesia and sip themselves up is some sort of moderator and ball said, no. And chiefly said, I'm glad that you said that because that's exactly he's point of view that we should not be moderators because that could be very very dangerous, and what was made it was the United Nations to step in. So in conclusion your thesis. Is that far from being only comfortable dealing with domestic issues while if it more or less ran foreign policy your arguments, chiefly Hild a sophisticated nuanced understanding of international relations that come to grips with the collapse of Britishness that you'll lawn that is and it's interesting too. Because Tiffany was very interesting. What was going on in India and between July on June twenty nine he acted as minister for external affairs for but one month and even as early as non in forty six as the High Commissioner to India surive in MCI recalled after seeing chiefly during his lay home, he said that he had an interview chiefly and during the interview chief just put his fate up, and he stays suck pipe then for two hours. Hey, told me what was going on in India? And this is not in Forty-six, Fresno. Julie thanks so much being on the show today. And thank you very much for inviting me, Julie Suarez is the author of jibe e chiefly. And aren't internationalised. It's just out from 'em UP, and we'll put a link on our website. Well, that's it for this week show. Remember if you'd like to hear the episode again, download segments since twenty four nine just go to ABC dot net. 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"robert menzies" Discussed on Between The Lines
"John Curtin bench shiftily enough, a coal will yell. Look. It's it is quite extraordinary. This is a part of politics that is long gone. I think Menzies was essentially an honorable and decent person who believes in the dignity of of public law and public service, and he had genuine friendships across the political divide in very rare families extrordinary letter that he'd written to join Kurt and a week before he died on and forty five. He was the launch Menzies opposition later, and he said look take all the time you need to rest relax thicket back going for holiday and worry about politics been chiefly. And I who was he's treasurer I looking off to things so don't worry. And that's a remarkable thing in in politics to have that they're in the middle of World War Two. As well. And yet, you probably didn't know that states relationship at the time. This is all behind the saints. Correct. Yeah. That's right. I mean knife four politics hard as any contemporary politician does, but they had a genuine friendship in. These interviews men's these talks about at the end of the digest simply having a drink or a Cup of tea with curtain or shiftily at the end of the day and just talking about politics, but often just talking about politics, and it was a genuine fringe, and he had a pretty good relationship with Colo you nodded in the contempt for Gough Whitlam rot. That's right. The funny thing is they both didn't vote for their party's in nine hundred seventy two fascinating. So call will who was leader of the labor party from sixty one to sixty seven did not vote for labour and seventy two Gough Whitlam and Menzies did not vote for McMahon in seventy two. That's right. And they can fought it to each other that I could not stay in the political parties if that ninety seventy two election, and in fact, go good evidence to suggest that Menzies did not vote liberally nine hundred sixty nine when Joan Gordon was wild or non and seventy four when Billy Snedden was liberal. There's at least three elections where he lift the fall. But he certainly came back for Malcolm phrases, nineteen seventy five election based on your research. Do you think the Menzies was a conservative liberal or centrist? This is a question. I get wherever I go. Look, it's difficult to apply Menzies belief in politics politics today in a contemporary context. I argue in the book that hey promoted liberalism within a conservative economic social policy framework. I mean, that's what he did. But certainly conservative in he's respect for institutions. He's fondness for the monarchy. He's belief in big power alliances is love of Westminster parliamentary democracy in the British legal tradition. But he did try to push the envelope on those liberalism questions. And I think we need to think about the context which liberal parties formed in the middle of the second World War. There was a question about increasing state power lives plans for nationalization extending rationing and wartime controls after the war. So so liberal parties fall. In this in this political cauldron where they were very shop political divides between socialism, and essentially liberalism, and he always himself as a liberal, and that's the why a dentist philosophically, but he did it within a conservative prime and historical context as you size important different eras, but he would have been aghast. At sei, John how it support for tariff cuts and work choices. Correct. Absolutely. Look, I think what we need to. Remember is the economy remind family shackled to very tightly regulated product and capital markets during the main zero there was rarely a budget surplus. The top marginal tax rate was sixty cents in the Dollah, Menzies Australia is different ustralia. It's not the Estrela of today and really one of the K messages of the book, Tom. He's policy legacy doesn't give us much. God's foot today. But how we practice the autumn. Silence of politics does urine Arendt's between the lines. This is Tom Switzer with Troy Brampton. He's the author of a new bog Raphy on Robert Menzies which was recently launched by the federal treasurer, Josh fraud book who also happen. Is to be the member four of young. That's right now in your book. You highlight means he's achievements financial assistance to non government schools that struck a below against sectarianism significant investment in universities colleges. The US alliance developing camera as the national capital yetis legacy is disputed. Let's he pull Keating in parliament in nineteen ninety two. The story of a looking. Wherever rate split from the system where we have the Xenophon is running around about Britain and bootstraps why not all Khosro cringe on the mandate which held us back for nearly generation. Prime minister Paul Keating, slamming the Menzies legacy that was annoying Noni to now let's get John Howard's response to katie's attack. He's held with me a few years ago. Well, I heard those remarks before. Somebody wants city would say that wouldn't be held us back. I will high minus shipping. Nodding forty nine was forty nine percent by not in seventy. It was close to seventy percent the nodding. Fifties was the first decade of the twentieth century in which ordinary a share of the good life. Now, if that's holding you back if that putting able gently to sleep, well, I'm all for hauling paper bag and putting them gently to sleep John. How'd with may a few years ago on this program now Troy Brampton who's wrought about the Menzies legacy catering, Ohio. It will look I'm going to disappoint. You Thome inside that I think that Beith Ron and wrong. Look, this is what makes such a compelling biographical subject. Is that you know, he continues to arouse strong emotions for some people. He's the personification of statesmanship in the twentieth century for others, stuffy at Wardi and figure out of chain with the emerging strata in the nineteen fifties and sixties the truth is that he's more substantial than he's critics lay out, but he has more full. It's than he's at Moore's except so yes, he got a lot of things rot. But there are a lot of things that we've lift in the poss and in the book, there are some quad jarring comments from Menzies on things locked Australia policy on average people on a pot in South Africa things like that that, you know, a really out of place in Estrella today. Well, one thing that means he's did get rot was the manner of his retirement. He did defy pals doctrine that all political Crees invalid. This is the Sydney Morning Herald following these resignation in all his long Ryan he has never enjoyed greater domination ovaries party. His government has never seemed more secure. He's health and energy are amazingly good for man of seventy one. He's mind is shop as ever no one can debt that if he wished he could remain in power for minis yet and fought at least one more election with success in the herald concluded his retirement is a model for other politicians both in Australia and abroad, you look at it wasn't exemplary departure from the prime ministership. He's still the prime minister delay. Under their own steam, you know in the more that fifty years, but I do think he probably stayed too long. I think it would have been better for him to leave perhaps before the non aged sixty three election. He would've voided the tragedy in Vietnam. They would have been list questions about commitment to things that were changing the live apart changed its position on the water strategy policy, for example, and it's interesting that when Harold Holt became prime minister, the liberal government move quite quickly in areas of policy, also, so they changed the water strider policy. They brought and the referendum on indigenous Australian, so so they recognize there was a Nate to China. Yes. The Sydney Morning Herald also reflects that of thinking when it argued quote, the Menzies period was not an era of political or intellectual excitement, ideas were not welcomed to bite was not encouraged intellectuals where frowned upon snubbed. It's time for China now fees ago on this program. Troy asked Hinson Robert Menzies daughter for her thoughts on the academic lifts. The other and what is an intellectual if he wasn't an intellectual he had Betty intellect and most people, I know, and this expression, intellectual more exactly does it mean. I talking about academics. Good. Yes. He did not always admire academics because they were academic. And they did not always understand the practical consequences of what they were suggesting, and he was a practical person Henderson on the academic lifts critique of her father, Robert Menzies yellow gothic. I think that that is a fair criticism got an endorsement for the book from Clive James who pointed out, the Robert Menzies government gave a vast generation of stralia, essentially free university education with scholarships and dramatically expanded the number of universities and resources going to them. So he gave them their education, and then they use the rest of their lives to denigrate him. So I think Menzies is on misunderstood by a lot of stray liens. He didn't get everything wrought. Something's he got wrong. I mean, there's a range of things. That he did that might these country better than it was will Menzies one set of the IB see quite I've never been persona grata with the IBC nor the IB with me. So it's great to have his boggled for on. The public broke us. Troy, great to have you on between the lines. Thanks for having me. Tom joy Bramson. He's author of Robert Menzies the out of politics that's just out by scribe. And we'll put a link on our website urine are in. Before
"robert menzies" Discussed on Between The Lines
"This is an ABC podcast. Tom, Switzerland, walk into between the lines. It's great to have you company today now Anzac Day program Litz travel back to a time when prime minister's command that quality of leadership that the Romans cold gravitates to pass prime ministers one from each side of the political tracts Bain chiefly in power from forty five to forty nine and longest serving prime minister Robert Menzies empower for more than eighteen years. Stay with. When prime ministers leave politics when politics leaves they more privately that don't usually just fight into the sunset. Do they they invariably still speak out about all and sundry? What did Gareth Evans? Call the condition. Relevance dip revision syndrome. One exception was Robert g Menzies after he retired as prime minister nineteen sixty six at a time of his choosing after sixteen years in the job. He rarely spoke out Schori, right? A couple of days, but after nearly a year as a private citizen. He was came to stay below the cut and thrust politics rotting to his beloved daughter hitter. I must confess that. I have not missed politics retied, even the smell of the battle hardly reaches. My nostrils. That's Robert Menzies in a private limited it to his daughter in light sixty six met later featured in some correspondence that hit Henderson published in twenty eleven. Well, now comes a new Menzies bog Orphee that reveals personal insults from our longest serving prime minister after he left office. The book is called Robert Menzies the politics and the is Troy Branston. He's a senior rata and Cole missed with the Australian newspaper and a full myspace rotted prime minister, Kevin Rudd. Troy, welcome to the Sean hell now, there'd be many books about Robert Menzies agenda as law. He's legacy. I think of Ellen mountains two volume biography in the nineties John Howard's book on the men's era in twenty four how did a documentary on that too for the how does your book shed new lot on our longest serving prime minister. Well, he's longest-serving prime minister. But it's been more than twenty years since there's been a full law, Barbara fee, written-off emits remarkable really to think that he would go so long without this kind of attention in terms of the book world, but look fan it to be a compelling ustralian story of a guy born in ninety four and a country town the last prime minister born in the. Nineteenth century. He rises all the way to the top job in a stray Lian politics. And what are tried to do is go back and look at him. Always judging him in the context of the times did he leave but providing a contemporary lens over it. And I would not have done the bulk could not find significant new causal material. And so I I went through his papers at the national library more than six hundred boxes there. The family gave me new letters and articles and things like that that he'd written covered a series of interviews that he'd given for a plan bar graffiti, which was never written. So on actually surprised that there are so many historians on bog Rofe who have not gone back to these rich are causal material which does provide I think in new perspective on Menzies for a contemporary audience. I did have an authorized bog raphia by the name of Francis. Mcnicoll tills that story. Yeah. Look, it's a it's a tragic story really because he had he had commissioned Francis. Mcnicoll enlighten on sixties to rotties fischel. Bog orphee? She had been a journalist. For the economist magazine. She was well connected. In political circles husband was a vice Admiral, and I think the task simply overwhelmed her, but what she did do was conduct a series of interviews with Menzies in non and seventy two and nine hundred seventy three in the twelve out of his life where he was extremely revealing about all aspects of these law. He's early life. He's political contemporaries policy issues listens. He'd learned from politics, and she did a lot of research interviewed other people, but these interviews have been sealed for nearly fifty years and the family took the exclusive access to the pipe offer open to the public. But the problem was is for so long many other people who had wanted to write books were not able to because she was designated as the official Barak of ROY. And it's been under wraps for twenty five years until you got access to them. Yeah. I think these interviews of largely forgotten but the ship transferred to the Menzies foundation, and I was able to get access to those with the support of the national library and also Menzies family as I said men's. Unlock today's politicians in retirement. He very rarely spoke out, but he did give an interview to Francis. Mcnichols brother-in-law David mcnicoll to prominent journalists for Pekka in the mid nineteen seventies. And then of course, it was Heather Henderson's book is Robert Menzies daughter that was in twenty eleven which revealed. Her father's litters that revealed. He's personal insights about he's thoughts on many issues, especially successes. Well, the interviews of very revealing because he does talk about easily law if he's entry into politics and provides a whole range of commentary on political personalities at home and abroad. One of the most significant stories are found, Tom which had not been really appreciated by other bog refers is the decision that he's two brothers might enlist in the first World War and Menzies decided to stay Heim. He was a student at the time. It was a family decision. He ceased to eloped as well with a soldier, and this plunged the family essentially into emotional turmoil that he was branded a coward for the rest of his law for not serving. So in these interviews. Menzies was very revealing in a personal y sign that the motivation for him to going to politics. Galvanizing force was to do service in another white, and you make it very clear that he had Menzies had a very good relationship with his political rivals must notably John
"robert menzies" Discussed on Bloomberg Radio New York
"This is a Bloomberg business flash. From Bloomberg world headquarters. I'm Charlie Pellett. Add Norway now the list of countries closing its airspace to the seven thirty seven. Max we've got Boeing shares slumping by seven point three percent that is certainly weighing on the Dow Jones industrial average the Dow down one hundred nine points down four tenths of one percent. The rally in technology. Stocks continues, apple and visa leading the pack as some up ten a gain of four tenths of one percent. Nasdaq up forty one up six tenths the tenure up nine thirty seconds yield two point six percent. Gold up three tenths of one percent right now twelve ninety seven the ounce. West Texas intermediate crude up three tenths of one percent fifty six ninety four barrel. I'm Charlie Pellett. And that is a Bloomberg business flash. Thank you, Charlie. We're live from the Bloomberg interactive brokers studio judge Amy Berman Jackson has read the riot. Actor Roger stone about his relentless pursuit of publicity and put him under a strict gag order that forbids him from speaking about his criminal case or special counsel, Robert Muller. Now stone is trying to explain himself to the judge once again saying that he didn't mean to mislead her when he failed to tell her about the paperback release of a book, he wrote about the two thousand sixteen election complete with a new introduction and title the myth of Russian collusion in it. He refers to Muller as a crook. Joining me is former federal prosecutor Robert man's apartment mccarter and English Bob in a March. First court filing stones lawyers referred to the book as an upcoming release. When it's been available online since February nineteenth there are emails talked about whether publishing the book would break the gag order from February fifteenth through February twenty six how do they explain not telling the judge about the book while they're litigating the gag order. Well, that's going to be the big question here. Because if there's one thing that is going to anger Jake's Jackson here and addition to rise, you're stone potentially violating the gag order. It's set they were not candid with her when they last appeared in front of her essentially on this very issue. So is it turns out as it appears that they were emails and discussion on that? At the time they appeared in court. They knew this book was coming out with these incendiary comments about Robert Muller in the new introduction. She's going to be very angry, and they will decide to put Roger stone imprison leading up to his trial. Well, this is a tough judge who put Paul Manafort behind bars, pending trial for interfering with a witness. She lets stone off with just a tougher gag order last time, but she did say this is not baseball. You don't get a third chance. Does that sort of put her in? On the spot of having to put him in prison or could there be some lesser kind of fine or gag order. Well, I think taxes are reluctant to put people in prison leading up to a trial in the case of Paul Manafort, the accusation was that they were witness tampering which really is in many ways a more serious offense because it goes to the real heart of the trial. The allegation is that you're trying to affect witness testimony. And that really is a very very serious issue. This is a little less serious in the sense that it is simply making these statements to the public, and perhaps affecting the jury pool for this trial. But I think here the jugs drew a pretty bright red line, and he peers at Roger stone cross that line and judges are reluctant to give you a chance have you then essentially, violates the order and then come back and give you a second chance. So she could do either one she could leave him out. But I wouldn't be surprised to see if she decides to put him in jail if she decides to leave him out what could she do that? She hasn't done already. Well, in addition to making it very clear that he is not to make any public statements or to tweets or to do any other things that he's already done. She could for example, prohibit him from a tweeting it all she could say that he is not allowed to go onto the internet. You could put him under house arrest. She could prohibit him from having contact with anybody in the media. There are number thing. She could do to kind of tighten the noose short of putting him in jail. We've talked before about how Roger stone has this relentless pursuit of publicity. And this at this point. He does apparently dean bunny for his defense, according to the court papers, and the emails the books have not been flying off the shelves even since his arrest, which was highly publicized could this possibly be a publicity stunt to draw attention to the book and more sales. Or is that too dangerous? Well, that's a cynical view here. And anybody knows about Roger stone at his history knows that this is an individual who sort of flirts with the line of disaster and is courting publicity, either when that publicity sometimes may not be all positive and even when publicity could possibly land him in jail. So the judge may well view him as using the court as a vehicle for promoting his book, which will only further anger, the judge. And I think she will seriously clip his wings, if he doesn't put him in jail altogether. This judge is going to be sentencing. Paul Manafort, his first sentencing was really caused a lot of uproar because it was so lenient and uproar about the judicial system as well as the judge sentencing in this particular case what's likely from judge Jackson tomorrow. Well, judge Jackson is a different job. Then judge Alice two seconds, Paul Manafort in the trial in Virginia. But judge Jackson also has different facts before her because she was the one that you mentioned June who put Paul Manafort in prison for tampering with witnesses. He also is aware of the sentence that Paul Manafort received from judge Alice, and I think that we will see a sudden here that certainly adds additional time to the prison time. The Paul Manafort got from judge jealous that was a sentence. That was viewed as highly controversial the sentencing guidelines were about twenty years. And while everybody expected there to be a departure downward very few people expected to departure as low as forty seven months, which is what he received from judge L Ellis. So I think we could almost certainly count on additional jail time coming out of this sentence from Jake Jackson, whether that's done by giving consecutive. Time or whether she just add the sentence that is beyond the forty seven months that was imposed by Doug Ellis, right? Will be very interesting to see how she handles that. And how different it is. If at all from judge Alice, thanks so much, Bob. That's Robert Menzies a former federal prosecutor and a partner now at mccarter in English coming up on Bloomberg politics policy power in law. Boeing is grappling with more groundings of its most important airliner seven thirty seven max that follows the second deadly crash..
"robert menzies" Discussed on Casefile True Crime
"Not in sixty six was a beat. Ye first dryly news, prime minister, sir. Robert Menzies were tied off the seventeen knees in the top office to be replaced by harrowed ho. Strategy. It made the move to the decimal currency system with the Ian dolla replacing impre existing stri. Liam pound. Japan replaced. Great Britain as a strategy is the largest trading. An assassination attempt to his typing out on live potty laid off Colo and to time it sporting venues were allowed to try on Sundays for the first time. As they stories dominated national headlines impromtu arms. The unsolved case of the missing Beaumont children was vastly. I've shadowed something big needed to happen to prevent the case from fading into obscurity. Jim and Nancy Beaumont had already been approached by many self-proclaimed spiritualists who claimed to know the whereabouts of their children. One such spiritualist claimed to have recited division of the children buried in a grave at the bottom of a cliff in the bait Saad suburb of marina, non Columba's, south from Gano. His permission Comtois sparked a police search of the suspected saw but nothing was found. In a bid to help solve the mystery and employees of South Australian newspaper the ad Vittorio. Roy a leda to find Dutch player Voyin Girod Creuset asking the he's assistance to help like the missing children. Creuset who claimed to have started receiving Sarkic missions during his lessons had owned a reputation in the Netherlands. I is thing police in solving murders and missing curse cases. He's fame had spread throughout Europe into the United States. And he's hope was sorting many high profile criminal cases. From his home in Holland Creuset responded to the newspaper, employee's leda styding. Hey believed the Beaumont children had been involved in a tragic accident unrelated to fail ply. He said they could have been playing innocently when something around them collapsed causing them to lose a battle against sand or water. For his visions revealed. The children's bodies were lying on a stretch of I've been land not too far from the sea about half a mile from where thou law saying, hey, requested to be sent photographs of Glen again that surrounds in order to determine exactly where the Beaumont children were like I did. Curry's interest in the by on children was the fresh group needed to bring the case back into the media spotlight. Would of course, it's vision was quickly published by the Vata with several other publications reaching out to the Dutch soggy and printing Dera Tyke on the story. The new media attention renewed public interest with many members of the public flogging caves and Talas throughout glencoe and neighbouring caused the Larry's to search Jane honor grant based Puglio crow sets would. Upon Reseda photographs and further information Croix zits, visions, became more, vivid. He described saying that's rate children's bodies lying in a cave knee, rox on the beach with scrubland and to square house to the rot handsaw and shows or Caro Rafe in the distance. South. Australian citizens believed to Gerard Creuset had identified the Minta home in Broughton a residential support and education facility for the intellectually disabled. Minta home was like I did on the coast three Columbus sale on the bones property. The media quickly entertained theories that the perpetrator could have been a patient that Minta home who off the kidnapping and killing the Beaumont children buried them on the foreshore in front of the Mindy grounds. From his home in Holland Creuset advised that allied citizens they were on the right track. And encourage them to keep digging front end light is brought into Mundus coastal boundary to remove tons of sand and soil, but the excavation revealed nothing and the Dc became a public.
"robert menzies" Discussed on Bloomberg Radio New York
"Live from the Bloomberg interactive brokers studio, Robert Bauer is the man accused of killing eleven people in a Pittsburgh synagogue, pleaded not guilty in federal court today to forty four counts, including murder and hate crimes. Joining me is former federal prosecutor Robert man's apartment, mccarter and English. Bob, tell us about the hate crimes he's charged with and what prosecutors will have to prove to convict him of those. History of crime really starts in nineteen sixty eight one congress passed the first he climbed statutes, and it basically makes it a crime to use or threaten force Willie interfere with any person because of their race, color, religion, or national origin. So it's it's an interesting statue because generally criminal statutes don't look to the motive behind killing or an action. They simply left to the conduct. But in this case hate crimes prosecuted have to prove that not only with somebody murdered. They were murdered because of their their gender because of their race because of their religion. And so it really goes to the motive of the killing in this case the motives, according to prosecutors anti-semitism the the gunman shouted out desktop Jews or something to that effect. As he was shooting allegedly in the temple. And that's what they will rely upon charges. Death penalty cases are rare in federal court. But here federal prosecutors say they are pursuing the death penalty explained how that affects the trial itself. For example. The selection of a death penalty qualified jury. Sure. Well, as you said, June death penalty cases are relatively rare in federal court only three people have been executed since the federal death penalty was reinstated in one thousand nine hundred ninety eight and ultimately it's important for people to remember that the decision about whether hey defendant will receive death or life in prison is up to the jury. So that means that when the jury's impaneled their additional questions that have to be asked jurors to make sure they jurors can't approach that decision with an open mind and jurors who have a moral aversion to death penalty, regardless of the facts of the case will not be permitted to sit on that jury. So it takes time for both defense and prosecutors to arrive with the jury that they think can be fair and the prosecutor you wanna make sure it's somebody who is willing to apply the death penalty if they believe it's warranted. Under the facts of the case. So if he's found guilty of the crimes that carry the death penalty, there'll be a death penalty phase. And the jury will hear from witnesses, including the victims, the Washington Post has a story out today that some rabbis oppose the death penalty's. Even this case how might that way into the jury's decision. Into the presentation. Well, it does weigh in. Prosecutors are always going to listen to victims as they put their case together on a question of whether to seek the death penalty, the victims will be considered. But ultimately, the decision is with the department of Justice and with prosecutors because prosecutors are of course, representing the entire country not only the victims of the crime. But for example, in the Dylann roof case where they white supremacist was sentenced to death last year for hatred crimes that was a case where families of those victims also did not want him to be executed because of their Christian beliefs. So it's something prosecutors will have to consider, but ultimately the decision about whether the charge and seek the death penalty will be with prosecutors. And of course, jury jury will ultimately make that determination, Bob. The state is also charging him and the Allegheny county district. Attorney has also said he will seek the death penalty. What's the point of having a state trial after a federal trial? Good question. A lot of people are perplexed by that. The reason that there is a state trial is well is because these crimes constitute violations of both state and federal law. So the state has a basis to bring these charges as well and often charges are brought in the state after the federal charges just to ensure that if all to believe the federal charges are overturned for any reason that there are these other charges out there that will ensure that the defendant remains in jail, and ultimately it may be the state charges on which he is sentenced instead of federal charges. But important to also note that under the death penalty process. The federal system is more a will move more expeditiously because a death penalty conviction at the state level who runs through the appeals process on the state level, and then has a complete second layer of appeal to the federal system for convicted of all eighty federal death penalty. It only goes through one layer of appellate review and moves a little bit. Quicker. But in either case the process is slow question about the preceding this morning. His federal public defender said he pleaded not guilty quote. As is typical at this stage of the preceding, it is typical. But stating it is not so typical was that just information or was he signaling a change of plea possibly with about forty seconds here. Well, you're right. Jen, not typical. It may be that he's trying to signal the prosecutors that he's looking to cut some kind of a deal often in those cases the role of the public defender or the defense lawyers something to try to see his client's life and try to see whether he can convince prosecutors to accept a guilty plea that will only result in life in prison as opposed to the death penalty. Thanks so much, Bob. That's Robert Menzies. He's a partner mccarter and English and a former federal prosecutor coming up on Bloomberg politics policy power in law, the GOP tax plan turns into a democratic weapon in the Chicago suburbs. That's.
"robert menzies" Discussed on Bloomberg Radio New York
"ETF Jim, thank you. Greg former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort is set to. Go on. Trial tomorrow, in. Virginia on banking and tax fraud charges President Trump was. Sympathetic toward Manafort when speaking with Sean Hannity on Fox News earlier this month Paul Manafort who's who really is a nice man you look at what's going on with him It's like Al Capone. Two thousand and five tax case or case It just a say thing it's a very sad thing for our country to say this joining us is. Robert Mensah former federal prosecutor and a partner at mccarter and English Bob during a. Storm. Of tweets on Sunday Trump went on the offensive against Muller personally he said in part is Robert Muller ever, going to release his conflicts of interest with respect to President Trump including. The fact that we had a very nasty and contentious business relationship the only thing we know just a side note about the allegations which, Muller has denied is that at Trump National Golf Club, in Virginia there was a dispute. In fees according to Trump's people but not according to Muller's people so why this pretrial flutter Well it's. Hard to say exactly what's behind the motivation for going after Muller at this point although obviously there's been a steady drumbeat of criticism of, a special prosecutor both by the president and by his, legal team I think one thing. We can say for sure Judge alice Josh and we'll be hearing this case has made clear to both prosecutors and the defense that he is not going to tolerate the injection of any political issues into, this trial and he's not to allow lawyers to stray into areas that he believes could prejudice, the jury, for example he's told the defense today cannot attack the motive. Of prosecutors for bringing. This case. He's admonished prosecutors not to tie this case to Russian collusion because it's really not about Russian collusion and prosecutors in fact have said that they will barely mention the word Russia if they mentioned it at all during, this, trial Bob given what you just said that that this case really isn't. About Russia can you put it in context with the rest of the? Muller probe what difference does this trial make for the purposes of that probe and for, Donald Trump that's a great question greg i mean i think the answer is first of all that manafort supporters what our case has absolutely nothing to do with muller's inquiry and in fact they filed a motion with the court dismissed the case on that very basis saying that the special prosecutor had exceeded his mandate in bringing these charges at the end of the day this case is about money that mr manafort allegedly earned in connection with the work he had done over in politics in ukraine and the government's cases that he failed to disclose many millions of dollars on income taxes and then later committed bank fraud in connection with certain loans the value of the case to the muller investigation is whether or not they can put enough pressure on mr manafort to have him cooperate with them because he did serve as the head of the trump campaign during a key moment during the election And there's no question that Muller and. His team believes that he's got valuable information should they get. Him to agree to cooperate but we already know a lot about what the prosecutors are going to present they have thirty five witnesses at five hundred exhibits do you see any holes in the prosecution's case that manafort's attorneys might be able to use Well so far manafort's defense team has done more of. A job attacking the process rather than the substance of these allegations so as I mentioned a minute ago they attack prosecutors were overstepping their. Bounds by bringing his prosecution in the first, place but they've really not gone after the substance of this case so it's a bit of an open question at this point as to what their, strategy will be it. Would seem that this is a very well documented case based upon the evidence that we've seen so far. That's been released and discovery but obviously at the end of the day prosecutors are. Going to have to prove that Mr. Manafort, intended to invade his taxes and that he's specifically lie to Bank officials in. Getting a loan either specific intent crimes prosecutors intend. To do that through these voluminous records and three the assistance of the testimony of Rick gates Who was matter for its right hand man and he pled guilty last February and is. Now cooperating with the government against his former, boss Bob this is potentially one of two criminal trials against Manafort there's another one in federal court in in DC how would you compare the two, cases is are they. Totally separate is is this one address rehearsal for the second, one how do they interact with each other Well. There is a fair amount of overlap this case as I mentioned is really about tax evasion. And Bank fraud Virginia, case which will start in September after this case is concluded involves thank fraud as. Well, but also involves hidden failing to matter for failing to file f. bars which are declaring money he has earned overseas and failing to. Identify himself as a foreign agent so they are similar but they're different and, one of the real questions is why affords team has elected to try these cases separately prosecutors. Had, no choice but to bring certain charges in Virginia and. Certain charges in the district of Columbia typically defense. Lawyers will want to consolidate those cases as, as I can in? Order, to give the government only one shot at their? Client here we're seeing manafort's team allow The government to go after him twice and there's a question. As to why they're doing that That's always. Been my question but I don't think we have any, answers yet maybe we will later on thanks. So much Bob as always, that's, former federal prosecutor. Robert Menzies.
"robert menzies" Discussed on #WeThePeople LIVE
"It's one of the greatest military catastrophes of catastrophe we lost nine thousand men the kiwis lost three thousand men the brits lost thirty five thousand men and the turks lost ninety ninety five thousand men and the interesting thing we obsess about gallipoli and that's what ends is based on so we tell ninety five percent of what a straightens now about aaron military history starts at dawn on the twenty fifth of bologna in fifteen and fides by sunday because we tell that story over and over and over again to the exclusion of all the wrist and it's a strange obsession that we have because we're actually commemorating a loss but the significance is astride didn't become a strata as a nation until i gender ninety one this was a thirst united if not fighting is new south welshman victorians and queensland actually fighting straightens and it's generally judged that troops did very will and to the americans who may on the sort of vaguely know the name lip police so as you say a straighter as a nation as an independent countries only fourteen years old it's the first world war straighter is to by default in the war just because whatever britain doesn't that australia does awful andrew fisher who would become prime minister win the war was about to break out andrew fisher said we will fight for great britain to the last man and the last shilling twentyfive years light of the second world war breaks out now prime minister robert menzies said it is my melancholy juicy to inform you that great britain is at war coma therefore we are at war because he's view was we are the sons and daughters of great britain great britain in the south seas great britain's at war therefore ipso facto we're at more now these days we're far more independent ideally but it was doing giving your american audience that on new the nineteen forty two prime minister was john curson and he made a famous statement because the japanese were coming closer he said without any pangs as out traditional kinship to great britain i'm make it clear that a stray leah looks to america and there's a story about about roosevelt franklin delano.
"robert menzies" Discussed on WNYC 93.9 FM
"To settle a complaint from a young woman on his staff who accused him of expressing romantic interest dinner when the settlement became public this week men tried to explain his conduct to reporters at one point describing his accuser as a soulmate that drew widespread attention and was mocked in a monologue from late night comedian stephen colbert byun says using that term was a mistake and added fuel to the controversy the house ethics committee is investigating the case for npr news i'm dave davies in philadelphia officials in south korea say a hospital fire in the southeastern city of mere yang has killed at least thirty seven people and pse lease he reports from seoul another one hundred people have been injured the national fire service says the fire started in an emergency room of a hospital in mururoa in southeastern south korea it took firefighters nearly two hours to put out the flames local fire authorities transferred dozens of surviving patients to nearby hospitals for treatment investigators are now looking into the cause and the south korean president has convened an emergency meeting to respond in peers he lease hugh reporting from seoul this is npr news this is wnyc in new york i'm richard hake good morning it's eight 04 twenty eight degrees fair skies right now in new york city expect a sunny day to day with a high near thirty seven degrees of federal judges acquitted new jersey senator bob menendez of several corruption charges anna could make his retrial trickier the judge struck down seven charges that menendez accepted campaign contributions from a florida eye doctor in exchange for political favors robert menzies a former federal prosecutor for new jersey he thinks this could make the justice department's case against menendez tough to sell to a jury the government will have to show up and things have value that were given center menendez or tied to the gift that were given by dr inelegant but they're not closely tied in time menendez still faces eleven charges including bribery a doj spokespersons says the agency is considering the next steps a top aide to governor cuomo intervened with the state budget office on behalf of an upstate developer accused of giving him bribes that's according to testimony in federal court yesterday afternoon wnyc's robertlouis was there in two thousand fifteen joseph for cocoa emailed and spoke with officials in the division of budget to.
"robert menzies" Discussed on Monocle 24: The Monocle Daily
"Yeah that's true he was very much in the shadow of the robert menzies the strategies longestserving prime minister who had two stints at the prime ministership he was the twelve a end been had another stint again which rain did jeb retreaded harold holt lymphocytes contain although really it was the i take prime minister sheep app hatton immense he's was a very conservative a ustralian end ahead sort of cost a long shadow of your book was the liberal potty began as united a striding osce suddenly holzmann the time is he deputy when he finally got stiff out from that shut him who's really only prime minister for just under two years it was a year and three hundred twenty eight days the aquatic beats you heard about they are about the the nominee sixty seven referendum which defeats a change the low out lalbagh texaco institution to allow the government to make laws for indigenous people at the federal level and count them in the census and that means uh ultimately that they would fight nb sadist full members and citizens of australia a net was seen as a watershed moment it was mauled a nantie sets support for that referendum and when not very good in australia are passing referenda search that was doing us woolcott to how but they will other things too at the changes to the waters china a policy that it was worn down effectively as you hood end he was also prime minister win now he pointed the first woman as a fixable minister hit a federal department sorry on a number of fronts he was a progressive conservative review lock an end yet it is it is shameful to halt family i think that he's most often remain bid for disappearing end often the butt of if jokes as is the way the strengthen sense of humor were you mention will strengthen sense of humor we heard the imola there are many other countries the would name a counsel swimming pool after prime minister who is believed to have drowned yeah think the generations ever since have still shaking their heads at that he hillside.
"robert menzies" Discussed on FoodStuff
"Hick's concluded that the high content of vitamin b in vegemite meant that it should be in soldiers ration packs world war two posters red vegemite keeping fighting men fighting fit wartime vegemite came in theory sizes platoon size of seven pound quote yeah eight ounce individual tins an half an ounce for the soldier behind enemy lines oh my goodness never want to be without your vegemite the girls certainly not um also thinks to the war marmite once again became largely unavailable in australia which only helped vegemite growth the same year the british medical association gave vegemite their stamp of approval as at nutritious balanced vitamin b packed food they even printed advertisements for it in their own magazines doctor recommended it to their patients even the baby wounds saul yeah uh well i guess the army wrought so much of this stuff that it led to a civilian shortage and calls the army to print ads like this one but you might fights at the men up north if you're one of those who don't need vegemite medicinally than thousands of invalids are asking you to deny yourself of it for the time being it's not too catchy but it does the job it's no limerick but it's embarrassing yes win at zero callister died in 1949 the past and future prime minister robert menzies attended his funeral home by the time ruled were too drew to a close vegemite was an australian staple 1954 ad campaign further seal the deal featuring a group of happy healthy kids singing what must have been a major air worm of a jingle called the happy little vegemite s that went as follows.
"robert menzies" Discussed on Monocle 24: The Monocle Daily
"Well a deep return an independent him pay before vanity was their front horns a was an in independent mp and tony window was one of two mps who helped labor to form government when life i was in the same situation of minority government back when julie gilaad was prime minister tony window would luckily run against banovic joe's again he did run against him at the last election last year and he didn't win so there's every chance monby would defeat him and it certainly likely that if the high court which is now going to determine olaf's dismiss decides that he is ineligible and calls for pulls a byelection it's possible he can renounce his citizenship in time to be a candidate again said look at my obey aci but it's not very stable and it said not terrific from malcolm turnbull had really rather be talking about op of things do we yet no whereas anybody looked into how many dozens of fraudulent parliamentarians a strange ahmad of endured over the years i mean i'm i'm thinking in terms of obviously our longest longestserving prime minister sir robert menzies who actually described himself as british to the bootstraps of as anyone checked as to whether remote but might literally actually have been true well yes and in fact we night at one prime minister wasn't ustralian chris watson who was prime minister the fed prime minister of his jailing of australia at he had one parent it was born in latin america and another parent now that was english as they that marriage breakup stepfather took the bucks family to new zealand and he can for new zealand to his trolley and it seems he was comey a british subject which we will in a shiny were up until relatively recent decades.
"robert menzies" Discussed on WTMA
"Moved out of the limelight rather than seek confrontation and political ah exposure all this but we've hit a lot of agricultural properties now go into chinese hands in australia and the australian defence forces did they talk to the government or did they talk to the culture about how this contradicts all of the money that's being spent and that's going to be spent in in order to develop a viable force to augment the uh the of the uh its allies against chinese aggression is they're logic care gregory or as everybody going in their own direction well they're not going this is surely the wrong direction anyway uh there is the the dichotomy is recognised uh that uh china is both a source of of recent wealth and also the potential source uh all of the move a military or security threat in the in the app is uh it does remind us of them why the prime minister before will two and after world war two to robert menzies was became known as big on on bob because he was behind selling a lot of a scrap metal to japan uh in the runup to world war two um and uh it this was at a time when when japan was known to be reality known to be also engaged in military expansionism throughout the race razer coprosperity sphere in other words it was invading china uh so bob menzies impact to be lost the opportunity to become israeli prime minister juri too because you because of that epa the big on bulb which should have been charged with if you like going to the shortterm financial gain frisco rather rather than looking to the longer tim uh security threat posed by japan the same thing is applying today uh in in this debate about the visit relative positions of china and in the united states uh the reality is that uh the the whole region is is actually much more nuanced than than that i mean astray it will have to continue to uh be active selling as much as it can to china and to.
"robert menzies" Discussed on Bloomberg Radio New York
"The sp five hundred is up a tenth of a percent up nineteen now the dow's up sixtenths of resented one hundred thirty one in the s p is epi tents were set of nineteen the 10year is down ten thirtyseconds the two point one eight percent west texas intermediate crude is now doubt seventenths of the present at forty four forty four barrel comex gold is down the tense percent at twelve forty six fifty and outs the yen's dollar eleven fifty the eurodollar eleven fifty one and the pound a dollar twenty seven thirty three that's your bloomberg business flash now more deemed burt law with june groso thank you greg is president trump under investigation my special counsel robert muller the president in his lawyer seemed to have different opinions on that yesterday trump's lawyer jay sokolow took to the sunday talk shows to proclaim that trump is not under investigation for obstruction this was to counter trump's own tweet friday that quote i am being investigated for firing the fbi director by the man who told me to fire the fbi director witchhunt joining me is former fed it'll prosecutor robert menzies the head of the white collar and government investigations practice at mccotter in english bob cycle put forth several theories one being that trump has not been notified by the special counsel that he's a target would dismissal council have to notify him at this stage of the investigation uh it clinton likely that the a special council would have destroying be notify anybody frankly that there are targeted the investigation my suspicion.