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"Robert Carroll joins us now he is the Pulitzer Prize. Winning author of many books. New Book is called working researching interviewing and writing. He's also the author of the years of Lyndon Johnson four volumes of them thus far and the powerbroker Robert Moses and the fall of New York Bob. Thanks so much for being here. Pleasure to be here all right so everyone has been greatly anticipating a volume five of the years of Johnson. But instead you have written this other book working researching interviewing writing. Why did you decide to do this? Ever since the powerbroker I kept myself out of the book. I don't think the word I appears in there many times. If soon as the book came out people started asking me. What was it like ten of you Robert Moses and I realized that I should have put in something to tell people what that was like so for like forty five years. I've been hearing that question and people ask me what it's like to work in presidential libraries were. Can you find out from interviews? This isn't the adviced anybody but it's sort of. I said we'll I WANNA give people some glimpses into how I work so. I took time out to do this book now. I'm back doing the volume. I mean it's an interesting question about interviewing Robert Moses because you had read five sessions which women seven sessions with him. Which was very different from the Johnson. Biography where he was dead already for several years. Before you could get started and I'm curious you write about it a bit in working what the difference was like for you. Writing the book writing a biography of a person who was still alive versus writing a biography of someone who was already gone in one sense. It's great to write about someone who's still alive because you get to meet Moses. Didn't talk to me for the first couple of years of the book. Then we had seven interviews. Soon as I started asking questions. Pamela the interviews were over but they will long sessions and I really got to look at him with Johnson. You felt okay. I came along just too late. He had died just three years before was great about him was that he died so young he would have been only sixty seven when I started. He darted sixty four that everyone was still alive. He had I think twelve people in Johnson City High School. When he was there they were all there to be viewed. But you can't make up for not meeting and talking to the person writing about you just can't do feel that absence and working on the Johnson. Yes you do everything you can to overcome that you know you interview the people closest to him over and over and over again constantly asking them what was he like. If I was standing next to you what would I see him doing? So you try to get a feeling of him now. We have these telephone transcripts where you hear him talking hundreds and hundreds of hours you can listen to him talking and see how he deals with people and how he gets what he wants from people. That's always amazing to me. Has that changed the way that you've been doing your research having access to those types a change the writing of history in general like on the Gulf of Tonkin incident which has been sort of mystery. What really happened there. How many attacks were there? On our destroyers. You know that led Johnson to launch these launch bombing attacks on North Vietnam. Now you actually hear the communications between Robert McNamara. The Secretary of Defense Cincpac the admiral at Honolulu and the commander of the fleet. That's an in Viet Nam. You hear this and what was really going on in real time the other aspect of your interviewing that. I thought was so interesting that you write about in this new book working is the delicacy of interviews and especially when you get to touchy subjects. And they'll you didn't interview Johnson for the book did Interview Lady Bird and tell the story about how you and when you approached the subject of Johnson's longtime affair with Alice Marsh. Well when Johnson is in the Pacific during World War. Two year allowed easing Australia. You're allowed one telephone. Call the senator from Texas. Just Johnson has to decide whether to run again for the House of Representatives or to run for senator. I'm going through all the correspondents and suddenly in the middle of it. There is a telegram from someone sewing. Alice I've never heard of Alice. She appears in no book and it says Lyndon everyone else that happened to me in the White House. Everyone else thinks you should run for the Senate. I think you should run for the house. Please try to cool love Alice. I said WHO is Alice. Who was the person that he makes the only one telephone call? And who's giving political advice which he follows shortly after that? So that's you know. An example of going through the papers by luck her sister and best friend show up at the Johnson Library and ask to see me and I go down to see them and they say you know we wanna tell you about a woman named Alice Marsh. We don't want to portray to some Bimbo. She was really very important in Johnson's life. And they told me the whole story of this Lauren and significant relationship and his life. So how do you then? Ask Lady Bird. You know panel. That's the only interview I ever had in my life where I couldn't bring myself to look at the person I was interviewing. Alice was a small town girl. She turned herself into the brilliant Washington. Hostess Brilliant Brilliant Salons and she came from a little town called Morlin. Now no one would go to the mall. And unless they were looking for inflammation analysis a little town in the middle of nowhere and I never know I went up there and we learned about her. And how remarkable she was but all of a sudden we have a mutual friend. Who lived in Morlin? Who calls me in a panic and says the bird in Texas? Everybody Calls Lady Bird Bird. Bird and always. You've been in Marlin. So she knows you know about Al. Assad said well that had to be if it doesn't concern me but her secretary then shows up at my desk in the reading room says Mrs Johnson would like to see you out at the ranch this weekend. We had been meeting in her office so we sit down at the dining table. She's at the head of the table. I might her right. Hand my stenographer's notebook like like the one you use is is down on my right hand taking notes and without preamble. She starts to talk about Alice Quiz. How elegance she was how sophisticated she was how she taught. Linden things and everything that she taught him. He followed the rest of his life. You don't hear these lawn when she met him. He was this new congressman very awkward with Lorne Gang Leo Arms. She said turn them into an asset. Always wear shirts with French. Cuffs and very nice cufflinks. So when people's attention is cool to them it's called in in a in a good way. She told him. We're kind of Necktie to favor. Countess Myers Tie. But most of all at crucial elements in life. It was her advice that he followed an in a number of cases one in particular. It's not exaggerating. Very much to say she saved. His career is takes a moment to tell. But it's it's interesting his early careers financed by a very fierce huge Texas contractor. Herman Brown Brown and Root and Herman was prepared to keep financing his Roy and in return Johnson was getting huge contracts for Brown and root when all of a sudden they had a falling out Lyndon Johnson was getting them authorization to build a dam which they wanted but Linden wandered low. Rent Housing Project built in Boston in what was a very poor Mexican American neighborhood. The houses in that neighborhood were owned by Herman Brown. The tenants were paying rent to him. They were very profitable and he was enraged at Linden wanted to condemn them for his housing project and his chief lobbyist and his chief lawyer talked. Instead you know Herman was about to turn on Linden and when Herman turned on you he never turned back when Alice here is about this and invites them both down to Greatest Stadium Virginia. She sits down at her table. And says why don't you just compromise give Herman the damaging winds and the land and all of a sudden everything was okay. So Lady Bird starts talking not only about her elegance. She says the quotes are in the book. She was so sophisticated so beautiful. I remember her neck succession of wonderful beautiful dresses and me in well not so wonderful. And and then she said you know Lyndon Basically Linden always followed Alice's vice during that whole interview I have to say my head. Just stay down and I took notes. I couldn't look at her so that was done. The next week we went back to ordinary interview she just launched into it without you. Even though I you know I sometimes think I know something about politics. I'm really glad I don't have to write about. Women never understood why she did
"robert mcnamara" Discussed on C-SPAN Radio
"Page one as this book was breaking talk about that. That that chapter in the Vietnam war as it relates to the possibility of a nuclear a nuclear up Lyndon Johnson made serious mistakes, and Vietnam, and I write about them nine hundred sixty four on these tapes, privately he saying what does Vietnam mean to me, and he's talking to his friend, Richard Russell of Georgia. Who says don't I'd say you ought to you ought to get out of there. And he says if you fight in Vietnam, Russell says there'll be a war that will last ten years it'll kill fifty thousand Americans, and we will not win perfect advice. I wished Johnson had taken that advice instead of the advice of Robert McNamara. But despite the serious mistakes Johnson maiden, Vietnam, which I write about there's one moment, I think just shows Johnson's largeness and that is the beginning of nineteen sixty eight he got advice from his commander in Vietnam. William Westmoreland who said to averted defeat. Maybe turn the stay. Nate around. Maybe we should move tactical nuclear weapons to South Vietnam and consider using them and Johnson takes one listen to that and says absolutely not I've been fighting this war for years to keep it from going nuclear. It's not I think it's an important war to wage, but I don't want the Russians and Chinese coming in and perhaps sixty million people dying in the incineration of the northern hemisphere. Anyone who says it doesn't matter who is president? If someone else had been president that day. Let's say someone who says let's turn wars over the generals. They know more. Well, what this shows is that they don't always know more. And you need a president with the wisdom and experience and largeness the Johnson showed at that moment to stop us from a nuclear catastrophe one more question,.
"robert mcnamara" Discussed on Newsradio 950 WWJ
"On NewsRadio nine fifty. W w. I'm Robert McNamara. Good evening. These are our top stories that if the two a day two of his supreme court confirmation hearing brek Cavanaugh who has the backing of antiabortion groups was grilled, and what his judicial beliefs our regarding Roe versus Wade, CBS news political contributor, Sabrina Siddiqi. Why you saw from Brad Kavanagh was essentially a restating of the facts of Roe v. Wade without really a glimpse into what his own legal view would be came back before the supreme court more coming up liberal groups were set today to put a twelve dollar minimum wage paid sick leave initiative on the November ballot. But today the Republican led legislature decided to adopt the measure where a pass easily, but they did. So the bills can be changed after the election with just a majority vote in this just in the national weather service has extended that severe thunderstorm warning for central Oakland County and now moving. Into central McComb county. This storm is moving off to the east southeast could see some wind gusts to sixty miles per hour. Penny size hail possible as well. Going to roll through Rochester hills, Troy into Shelby township Sterling Heights and Utica as well. Stay with w w j for the latest they are the top dog in hot dogs. I'm Sandra McNeill, and this is made in Michigan. John kobylt his family business Kogel goes back over one hundred years. Grandfather learned the business in Germany through the apprenticeship program came to the United States to seek his fortune or get away from his parents, not quite sure what he was told that the auto industry would soon be booming in Flint he opened up his business there. The year was nineteen sixteen. There have been two expansion since then the Flint Pogos factory now employs one hundred people you guys never wanted to leave despite all the downturn in the economy there. Well, good place. We have you know, three four maybe five generations out of eating our product the.
"robert mcnamara" Discussed on Newsradio 950 WWJ
"On NewsRadio nine, fifty I'm Robert McNamara good evening these are our, top stories at ten fifty two President, Trump has. Decided to revoke, the security. Clearance a former Obama administration CIA director John Brennan CBS news senior national. Security analyst Fran Townsend says the move. Will have a chilling effect on the US intelligence community John was a, senior career intelligence official he served his country for decades in difficult roles and did it well no reason to think. He didn't serve the country and, live up, to his obligations with his clearance without providing examples President Trump says Brennan has. Made quote, unfounded and outrageous allegations while outbursts on the internet. And on television about this administration, end quote Detroit police officer who was struck. By a hit and run driver earlier this month has passed away in, August fourth thirty year old shoe Cour was going back to his car after breaking up a party when he was. Hit alone mcnichols near the Southfield, freeway the, driver Jonathan Cole turned himself into police several hours later he's now been charged. With murder Something very, interesting is happening and the pickup truck market this is Jeff Gilbert with the core product a new Rams been on the market several months. And a new Silverado is just about to arrive still Edmonds analyst Ivan? Drury says if you look hard enough you can find deals they still need to compete with one. Another so. You're getting, a very new truck broaden new RND at a very, incentivized price today are still expensive, for what it is you're getting a lot of bang for your. Buck, what of the other issues pushing pickup sales to new heights this year you don't have to break the Bank to fill them up and you feel a communist these trucks very good I mean they're on par with. Some s you ten years ago some cars from ten years ago we're seeing lots of new technology with an ego boost vs six now the most popular engine for, the f one fifty and. Some of. The main trims of the ram have a mild. Hybrid system to give the injured More power with the chronicles I'm Jeff Gilbert WWE w j nine fifty Wwl news time is ten fifty five time for a look at your money from these, suburban Cadillac Buick business. Dazzle bellinger's Bloomberg business report stocks fell in week trading the Dow Jones industrials fell one hundred thirty. Seven points or half a percent to twenty five thousand one sixty two. The NASDAQ closed down ninety six points or one and a quarter percent the s. and. P. five hundred lost twenty one points or three quarters of.
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"I'm Robert McNamara good evening this is what's going on in nine twenty a sigh of relief. And Romulus as an hours long armed standoff is now over the suspect who tried to, carjack similar to gas station sheltered himself inside a home where. Two kids were home alone he's not hospitalized. After a shootout with police. The kids are just fine US ambassador to the United Nations Nikki Haley. Accuse Russia on, Friday violating. UN North Korea sanctions sudden credible reports that Moscow was granting new work permits to North Korean. Laborers here CBS news correspondent Margaret Brennan so the treasury department today put sanctions on some, Russian banks for essentially helping North Korea cheat on what are. You ass and United Nations sanctions that were. Supposed to isolate North Korea Haley also said talk is cheap Russia cannot support sanctions with their words in the Security. Council only to violate them with their actions An award ceremony for independent filmmakers right here. In metro Detroit coming up at. About three weeks it's all about recognizing the work of, filmmakers who. May not be getting the attention they deserve from the movie industry the i. c. u. awards will kick off on Thursday, August twenty third, at the imagine theatre in. Royal Oak w w j film critic. Terry Lee is the organizer and a filmmaker herself and she says. It's a lot of, work you have to plan it, all out see the casting where we're gonna shoot us at. The location scouting, you have to. Budget it's makes you have enough money and then you've got to plan everything out from the wardrobe You know. You gotta get your crew on board I mean it's just a lot of things that you have. To do who three-day event culminates. In the, award, ceremony on Sunday August twenty sixth log onto is c. you awards dot, com for more information Michael Cohen reporting. Live for WWE j. NewsRadio nine fifty a court, date, scheduled, tomorrow, for Detroit man charged with attacking. One of our reporters. In the city's west side caused quite a scare Thursday morning to reporters on the scene of. A deadly hit and run police say sixty year old Edmund Gillam threatened the two. Including our own Mike Campbell and. Starting damaging the news trucks or the metal pipe cut, Mike off. Guard as you reported live on air alight to cross is so short that they don't get my truck just got hit, by a bat, I'm sorry guys gotta go. Police Gillam then fled when he police. Tried to arrest him he allegedly threw a piece of concrete an. Officer hit him in, the knee tasers arrested police chief, James Craig believes Gillam is mentally ill he's charged with assault Destruction. Of property and resisting police hit run Emily city big boy restaurant leaves one person dead this morning now police say if you see. The suspect forty seven year old Alexander washable DO NOT APPROACH him it's believed maybe armed and dangerous. Investigators say he hit the victim. On a, motorcycle, near 'em Fifty-three around ten o'clock before taking off on foot inside his, Jeep numerous loaded weapons a check of. His history shows numerous contacts with law enforcement in, with, information, should, call the LaPierre county central dispatcher. None one one immediately I on attack with Larry Magid if the new scam going around where the Fender. Claims that, he knows, you've been looking at porn and has compromising hacked webcam, video of, you reacting to that porn it would. Normally, be an, obvious scam but it includes a, password that you've, actually used probably from a compromise. Website you visited that the scammer obtained your defense the money by bitcoin to prevent the person from sharing that video with your friends and social media contacts but, don't send it. Even if.
"robert mcnamara" Discussed on KTAR 92.3FM
"Asking questions i mean you know one at the central rules that our profession journalistic neutrality and i never loved the idea and over time i've completely given up on it i feel like you're there you're entering someone else's life you're asking them to be bone before you you've got to be willing to be back and to give them whatever counselor advice or wisdom you have not to get down to paying people interview but helping them and dealing with them in a in a loving passion both because it's the right thing to do and because it's the only way you'll ever understand a story solomon tells in his book underlines the importance of understanding people and their cultures it was when he interviewed former secretary of defense robert mcnamara years after the vietnam war ended i met late in his life and i asked him about a trip he had taken when he had gone to be at phnom at twenty five years after the war and met with a lot of his vietnamese counterpart tonight said what was the conversation like an era counted it he said you know i never understood why you did x and they said we did x because he had done why you're going to try to escalate things we have to respond to needs to no i think he thinks when i did why but then when you get access i felt that that was because they went back and forth and it was like a french farce there was the sense that each side had completely misunderstood what the other side was doing and it would have been kind of comical if there hadn't been so very many people who had died and macnamara said to me we were talking in the language of war which i wrongly thought was a universal language it turns out that war is not a universal language and it turns out that those misunderstandings can actually have really catastrophic event okay but before you got into that war at least escalated adult it could have somehow spent enough time we're headed enough people who were at the end origin around you that you could interpret what was going on talk about lost in translation there we've got a million lives lost in translation people in the west assume that other countries once they've been liberated want freedom and democracy the way we have it here the us when traveling to countries in the middle east and asia solomon founded this wasn't always the case in the first place there's an assumption that if you just take away all the things that are getting in the way that everyone's natural default state is democracy that isn't true democracy is something that has to be cultivated intended people's natural default status chaos and we've knocked out governments in places like iraq and libya without having anything to put in afterwards but since you'd is chaos i also think people don't recognize that the habits of freedom take a while to learn tony morrison once said you have to learn to be free after you've been granted freedom and i saw that over and over again as i went from place to place he saw it firsthand when he took a trip to afghanistan after the fall of the taliban in two thousand and two and sitting with a group of three women who had shown up for our conversation wearing burqas they took them off when we were inside and i could okay the taliban is tall and why are you still wearing those and the first said to me well i'm still wearing a burqa because if the taliban comes back to power they may punish anyone who they find didn't wear one and the second one said i'm afraid of being raped and if i get raped because i'm not wearing a burqa everyone will tell me it was my own fault the third one said i always thought when the taliban that i would burn this thing and i would never put it on again but over time you get used to being invisible actor that it's very stressful to contemplate being visible again and i thought very stressful the contemplate being visible it's very stressful to contemplate being free if you leave to the state of unfreedom and there are people who are intimidated by it and they need a lot of support and encouragement and.
"robert mcnamara" Discussed on KQED Radio
"Leaves something to chance a threat that leaves something to chance like having tactical weapons on the border maybe more credible but the problem with a threat that leaves something to chance is that it leaves something to chats and that when you've got a volatile situation like that i think he wanted to try to have your forces in reserve where you're in full command and control i think the biggest problem we have in this regard again it does get back to president trump this is an unusual situation that we've been in the past when we we've had crises the military was often the problem where the military was hawkish and had to be constrained by a more moderate president think about the cuban missile crisis where the joint chiefs of staff unanimously recommended an invasion an airstrike and president kennedy reinforced by robert mcnamara said no we're going to have a quarantine we're going put a blockade on and see if we can squeeze them out to get them and make a deal privately over withdrawal of our missiles in turkey the joint chiefs steph went along with that in the end but it took a moderate president to force the chiefs today we have the reverse situation where it's the military that actually is constraining president so you see this for example when the military's asked can you destroy all the missiles and all the nuclear forces what would it take congress passed the joint chiefs and they said it would require the occupation of north korea we can't do that and that was the way of pouring cold water on some of the trump and mcmaster and at the time tillerson's comments that became known as the bloody nose strategy we might.
"robert mcnamara" Discussed on WHYR 96.9 FM
"Was in fact building killer satellite systems and in fact had an operational system based in the the pacific with thor missiles that actually detonating hydrogen bombs in outer space it's true that the united states research systems and and the soviet union was very aggressive when it came to just base the soviet union until the outer space straight he was was testing various systems the union was even talking about putting hydrogen bombs and space or in sub orbital space there were two different systems they were talking about them in the united states was reactive in that respect we did have a source system with a with a hydrogen bomb warhead that was to be used as an anti anti satellite system but it was a very limited system we we could launch tooth or which wouldn't have made any any real difference and then the system was was activated but in a very spongy kind of way it was clear to everybody that we didn't want to use it nobody really wanted to use it later on we did cast nuclear weapons of space and then one of the so called starfish prime test knock out electrical service and parts of hawaiian man you had killed a few snapshots of other nations we realized that exploding nuclear weapons in space was not a good idea and isn't it true that robert mcnamara began to be a little bit skeptical about shooting hydrogen bombs and not a space because it would create an electromagnetic pulse in fact wasn't this the first time we've ever seen an electromagnetic pulse in action that could wipe out our own communication systems you're absolutely right they elect electoral magnetic pulse was perceived as very dangerous to our systems into other kinds of systems military and civilian and didn't robert mcnamara actually go ahead and try to deploy a anti ballistic missile system called the sprint which never became fully operational and wasted billions of dollars he was a very skeptical of.
"robert mcnamara" Discussed on WCPT 820
"Vietnam for instance well yes that was bad but it distinguished because it's an exception we're so good we actually we're good people in the fight we're horrified show just good we are well that shows a lack of ignorance of history to history is another thing they don't read because he doesn't understand anything about the vietnam war he doesn't understand they level of death and suffering abby gross american indifference to it and actually if you look if you appraise the vietnam war honestly the whole the whole war is a serious indictment of america's claim to be good and to be concerned about others they just don't want to hear this because they say this is what if you convinced that you're perfectly reasonable disagreement doubt feel like conspiracy and they feel like anton being antiscience and and unfortunately we're going to have to leave it there but also if you look at the history of the vietnam war you will see it as a refutation of the notion that reason and rationality can stand apart from morality and ethics and conversations that belong to the social sciences in the liberal arts the title the best and the brightest for david halberstam's book was meant to be ironic and robert mcnamara story it's the story of a quantify a guy who believed in a quantifiable approach ultimately going completely off the rails and taking two nations with them unfortunately though we're going to have to leave it there but as always nathan j robinson great to talk to you the current affairs of magazine it's going great and best of luck on the current affairs podcast as well thanks for coming on the program and we will be right back after this i am richard rj ask alan this is this hour.
"robert mcnamara" Discussed on C-SPAN Radio
"In vietnam down from a high of three hundred and thirty four thousand five hundred just one year earlier there twenty three hundred and fifty seven us deaths in nineteen seventyone down from six thousand eighty one in one thousand nine hundred seventy and back here on the home front the war's popularity was certainly diminishing we're going to move onto the cast of characters as we call them in this case starting with the pentagon papers themselves what were the pentagon papers secretary robert mcnamara a defense secretary had the idea as the war got worse and worse with fewer and fewer ways out it's aimed to commission a study historical study how did we become involved in the war what happened who did what why were we there one i think he would do that study before you entered a war about we had not done that and so the secretary macnamara commissioned that study got together within the defense department scholars and others to use highly classified defense department documents to prepare a study of how we became involved went going back to world war two and thereafter and all the way to one thousand nine hundred sixty eight when the pentagon papers ended the government wants to keep the pentagon papers secrets well was interesting because it was it was this was the nixon administration that was in charge at the time that this litigation was brought most of the material in the pentagon papers was embarrassing and harmful to previous administrations because as said this study went back to the truman administration back to the the end of the second world war and it was particularly embarrassing to president johnson ted olson former solicitor general and maybe to a certain degree to president kennedy so the nixon administration wasn't so badly embarrassed by the contents of the material that was indicated that the government lied to the american people had done various different things that were quite damaging but the nixon administration became convinced in part because secretary kissinger whip made particularly strong arguments that if you don't stop this if you don't stop these leaks whereas going to stop and you've got to be able to stop.
"robert mcnamara" Discussed on WREK
"And it's referred to as the pentagon papers and robert mcnamara who launched the war in vietnam lyndon johnson was secretary of defense he was the longest serving secretary defense in american history but you know he commissioned a study of the war how did the americans get involved in the war and what decisions were made in late nineteen sixty seven when he was on his way out it was the secret history was not supposed to be made public and one of the people who worked on the study was a man named daniel ellsberg and another man named tony russo and what they did is that after being influenced by the big movement against the war they realized that this history which is not complete or anything but it really tells the the real side of the story that had been suppressed by their own historic science in the pentagon and they released it in nineteen seventy one and richard nixon went to the supreme court to try to make sure that this history was suppressed in into stop the newspapers from publishing it because they said it was state secrets and in fact what we really was it was just a history but it was an explosive history because it went through a lot of the stuff that i mentioned here today and so the pentagon papers themselves is actually a very important source of information on on on this my views as a kid as opposed to going to school you i think that i was lucky well i mean the vietnam war had a very big impact on my family in a way that it did for millions of other people my my brothers my my mother's brother my uncle fought in the vietnam war he was a little older you see and it was a big generational split inside the military if people can see documentary called sir no sir that came out a few years ago it's a it will blow you away once you see it you'll go you look at the world a very different way and what it is it's a history of the opposition to the vietnam war from inside and by american soldiers and sailors airmen and it just tells you how really the war came to an end which is soldiers stop fusing to fight it h r haldeman who was richard nixon's chief of staff was asked in the.
"robert mcnamara" Discussed on WDRC
"You can also find where we'll find references to doug stanton's book the most recent the odyssey of echo company and of course before that horse soldiers and in harm's way were both great reads doug we've talked about echo company i want you to paint a picture for my audience of what you've got by reading all of these afteraction report by interviewing people and in particular one man in particular about the kind of situation that these men were dropped in to when they arrived in vietnam it was not a you know a space flows situation and it was it was a chaotic situation was an oh very chaotic in what what i what i comes clear is what rises to the top of the experience is the effect of fighting a war and counting victory um via eight body count or is robert mcnamara ben defense at the war of attrition so it's you know these fellows while their fathers were bombers and infantrymen in world war two there they're capturing ground they're headed to germany they're gonna thereafter hitler so uh that's what that wars about this is very different and it's hard for us to wrap our minds around it but because we don't even we're not fighting this kind of war in fact in iraq or afghanistan today um but in vietnam the idea was there would be a breaking point a crossover point it was called where in so many enemy soldiers had been killed or wounded that coach human and government would decide to give up the reality was and we should have known this and i think a lot of people that they've been fighting for hundreds of years and i don't think there was there is no limit to the number of young men and women they would send into the meat grinder of this war so but police yourself in their shoes the aca the platoon a reconnaissance within their jobs to be.
"robert mcnamara" Discussed on KQED Radio
"Of the native into sort of the t e lawrence of asia and simply savage while thous one of his many nicknames he was among other things known as the american james bond in the t lawrence of asia the ugly american the quiet american he was actually very similar to t e lawrence and that he was somebody who had an extraordinary ability to bond with with foreigners and to win their trust in to become a very valuable adviser to them but like t e lawrence he was ultimately frustrated by the machinations of his own government in you know t lawrence felt betrayed after world war one because instead of granting freedom to the middle east odd french and british colonialists divided up the middle east between them and lansdale felt very much betrayed because the kennedy administration over through and killed his friend know dan's yom and then embarked on this costly horrific conventional war in vietnam that he advised against because lansdale with somebody he wanted to protect south vietnam but he thought that south vietnamese needed to take the lead in their own defence and that we should provide advisors and support but we should not americanize the war and he couldn't consistently argued against the illusion that people like general william westmoreland had they could kill their way out of this insurgency but lansdale was not listened to and so like t e lawrence he ended his days uh with the haunting sense of failure neighboring westmoreland into sharp relief in terms of his culpability um what about people like mcnamara what about people in the kennedy administration i'll they were all very culpable in in in in the book i describe some con simone row confrontations that ad lance they'll had with robert mcnamara who was you know one of the best.
"robert mcnamara" Discussed on WRIR.org 97.3FM
"Weapons battlefield nuclear weapons what are they gonna do get down to the level of having indierctly a grenade well first of all you should understand what the term lowyield moon shanna got low lowheeled means anything under twenty uh twenty uh killing ton and that would mean that the death of bomb dropped on hiroshima which you know which they've although although he'll weapon it tactical wept with the at called the tactical weapon because it was about fifteen kilotonnes and this statement of this cutting these socalled tactical weapons is contrary to what the uh the head of the strategic commands uh general hayden said that there's no such thing really is that the tactical weapon they're all strategic commune if you drop a weapon that twenty kill it or the size of hiroshima the called at your local yield is it it it vendors language it's preposterous um in the position that the administration is taking there was we the treaty negotiated in july called the prohibition treaty that at one hundred twenty two nations that it's time to prohibit nuclear weapons and they're calling that key stabilising whereas the actual uh th the argument and in this nuclear posture review that that's just come out he is that we need to have more lower yield nuclear weapons maybe save five kilotonnes say say this third of their size a roche schmo which is absolutely devastating one of those because the large ones are selfdetermining there two arch we wouldn't use therefore in order to make sure that people believed that we use our nuclear weapons and render the use of nuclear weapons less likely we need to build more smaller nuclear weapons which others will to leave are more likely to be used in order to render the threat of use less likely so yes border is on i guess alice in wonderland on lsd the logic is simply insane to quote robert mcnamara the former secretary of defense you can't use nuclear weapons against the country that has it suicidal it's absolutely illegal and immoral to use them against a country that doesn't have them and there are no use against terrorists so they're mad and insane to keep its it's time to get rid of them now that call to get rid of them is embodied in a legal commitment of the united states and that's what's important to me as an american which is that um article six of.
"robert mcnamara" Discussed on The Filmcast
"Uh in terms of like her in ramallah and everything but i think they're different techniques in this movie to get a sense of who she is right she starts out somebody who basically needs to let her uh the guy she's working with kind of do most of the talking kind leader through it and slowly but surely we kind of see her step up and get some strength of her own uh something we don't typically see portrayed is how lake the journalists at that time had really really close ties to the politicians to the point where you know she had uh she had them hanging out in her backyard and i thought that was like she had robert mcnamara in her backyard hanging out as kind of interesting uh i think when it comes to her story i found that really compelling and you know something that feels important today uh it's definitely not the same movies all the presence men it's not the same movie spotlights uh sometimes it feels like unfair to judge these movies is because they talk about some yup some similar things spotlight is very much about the process of investigative journalism in the power of that and fighting through like you know uh trying to tell story that nobody wants you to tell this one is sent doing something very different uh i do agree with you guys though they i feel like it could have gone deeper you know like both lincoln and despise hit me in really deepened emotional ways on now you're remembered dave like eating really like lincoln them it's either like link is just a really it's a weird phil because at the end of the day it's about it's a you know they're talking about a vote and it's not even going over like a really a significant period of time right it's it's just like a really it's a slice of wigan's life um i feel like this movie could have been little more focus in that would have made it stronger but after what it is like i i enjoyed the heck out of it uh i don't know how many times tom hanks has to like be the guy saving america consent where young something amazing the right like he is just like how he's been cast everything at this point well i think you know one of the problems that your alluding to is.
"robert mcnamara" Discussed on Waking Up with Sam Harris
"After robert mcnamara i mean how many times do people and business have to fail and government before we of get it through our heads the business and government are two different skill sets you've i think tillerson you know although being one of the adults in the room i i also think we underestimate the role of vanity in cabinet appointments were you know you walk out of the i'm sure tillerson must have walked out of his first interview with trump and thought you know this is uh this is going to be easy but you you know you're sitting there saying while i'm sitting in the chair that was once occupied by henry kissinger or you know cornell haller who you know whoever your jenry simpson wherever you're you're heroes are and um it's it's pretty hard to let go of that i i knew someone some years ago who knew a cabinet secretary in the clinton admnistration n dumb i said why isn't this person you know resign after being lied to in so many times and uh he said well if that person resigns you know who are they after this nobody not tillerson is not a nobody but i think you can convince yourself look i i'm i'm you know i'm the last line of defence i have to stay without me the deluge i think one of the things to that the to go to your point about the way tillerson men state uh you know tillerson probably thought he was doing the right thing i'm a businessman i slim payrolls i returned value to the stockholders that's not how you run but diplomatic establishment and i don't think trump cared about any of that i thanked i don't think the president understands anything about foreign policy i mean we're also talking just a few days after he blew up a summit with the are working meeting with the british prime minister uh is you know antagonizing the north of at the there are people who really believe that trump is caging the north koreans although i would point out every time trump says something the north koreans test a missile just to prove it doesn't matter but you're you're right about the blow back although i would also point out that as we're talking newest approval.
"robert mcnamara" Discussed on KVNT Valley News Talk
"Of echo company and of course before that horse soldiers and in harm's way were both great reads doug we've talked about echo company i want you to paint a picture for my audience of what you got by reading all of these afteraction report by interviewing people and in particular one man in particular about the kind of situation that these men were dropped in to when they are dr dean vietnam it it was not a you know a space slow situation and it was it was a chaotic situation was an a very chaotic it what would i would i comes clears what rises to the top of the experience is the effect of fighting a war accounting victory via eight body count or is robert mcnamara then secretary of defense or of attrition so these fellows well their fathers were bombers and richer lynn it will work to their their capturing ground are headed to germany they're gonna thereafter hitler so uh that's what that wars about this this is very different and it's hard for us to wrap our minds around it but because we don't even we're not fighting this kind of war in fact in iraq or afghanistan today um but of vietnam the idea was that there would be a breaking point a crossover point it was called where in so many enemy soldiers had been killed or wounded that coach emitting government would decide to give up the reality was and we should have known this and i think a lot of people do they've been fighting for hundreds of years and i don't think there is there is no limit to the number of young men and women they would send into the me grinder of this war so but place yourself in their hughesy lukla too a reconnaissance in their jobs to be the eyes and ears of the battalion they go out they spot something they call their line companies in and there's a battle in that battle job is to kill or capture will just many enemies possible and do the body count ended up and that's how scores kept and while that may actually be uh that may work psychologically in my experience interviewing the guy is that it it was a heavy load to carry because there was ultimately no real way for them to feel that they were winning except that they knew in.
"robert mcnamara" Discussed on WDRC
"You can also find when we'll find references to doug stanton's book the most recent the odyssey of echo company and of course before that horse soldiers and in harm's way were both great reads doug we've talked about echo company i want you to paint a picture for my audience of what you've got by reading all of these afteraction report by interviewing people and in particular one man in particular about the kind of situation that these men were dropped in to when they arrived in vietnam it was not a you know a slow situation and it was it was a chaotic situation was an a very chaotic what what a what a clear is what rises to the top of the experience is the effect of fighting a war and counting victory via eight body count or is robert mcnamara then secretary defend hit de or of attrition so these fellow well their fathers were bombers in infantrymen it will were to their their capturing ground they're headed to germany thereafter hitler who uh that without wars about this is very different in it's hard for us to wrap our minds around it but because we don't even we not playing kind of war in fact in iraq or afghanistan today um but of vietnam the idea was there would be a breaking point a crossover point it was called where in so many enemy soldiers had been killed or wounded that hotel in in government would decide to give up the reality was in we should have known it it lot of people did they'd been fighting for hundreds of years and i don't think there is there is no limit to the number of young men and women they would send into the league grinder of this or so but police yourself in their hughesy lucrative a reconnaissance platoon to be the eyes and ears of the.