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What Did Robert Hanssen Get Out of Being An Evil Russian Spy?

The Eric Metaxas Show

03:12 min | 2 months ago

What Did Robert Hanssen Get Out of Being An Evil Russian Spy?

"We are talking to Lee's wheel. You probably know her. Remember her from Fox News and many other prominent places talking about many things kind of like this, but nothing can top this. She has a brand new book out called a spy in plain sight. The inside story of the FBI and Robert Hansen, America's most damaging Russian spy. It really is nightmarish. And I always say, Lee's that, you know, apart from my faith in God, I don't know how to process this. I think you would just be frightened at how evil the world is, how dark it is. I have to ask you the most basic question. What do you suppose that Robert Hansen got out of this? In other words, it's kind of a funny thing. I always feel that these traders sell themselves extraordinarily cheaply, you know, that China has billions of dollars to spend. And if there's anybody out there willing to kind of give them a leg up here or there, what was Russia giving this man? And again, we want to be clear. This wasn't Russia. This was the Soviet Union, as wicked as it gets. The evil empire, what were they giving him to make him feel that it was worth his doing this because he could have made a decent job doing the right thing. What were they giving him? Right, exactly. Cash. I mean, they were giving him bundles of $30,000, $10,000, $50,000. At one point he asked for diamonds, they gave him diamonds. And he had a cash flow problem, right? Because you can't put more than $10,000 in cash into a bank without alerting all sorts of things. So he would just honestly put it in a drawer. He put it under the bed. And in fact, Eric, one time when he had the cash in the drawer, Bonnie, his wife, saw the money in the drawer. It was like a sock drawer or something, you know, basic drawer like that. She pulled out the money, sees all this cash. She confronts him. This was early on in his spine, confronts him. She thinks it's money for a mistress because he's got he's done that before. Say that again, money from what? We're a mistress from mister. Oh, because he had cheated on his wife. Right. So she thinks that she confronts him. He says, oh, no, no, Bonnie. I'm not cheating on you. This is just money that I got from the Russians for spying. That was better or something. But he did say that to him. Yes, no, he admitted it to her. And then they, but here Eric, here's a twist. It go to their priests. That's what body his wife wants to do. They go to the priest, the priest basically says, oh, that was bad. Don't do that again. It's fine, that is. And you can be absolved from it if you just give them money that you've already made to the church. Which Hanson does, and he doesn't spy for a little bit, and then he starts up again. But the idea that a priest would say that, that basically, hey, you know, don't do that again, that's bad, but you know, it's all okay if you give the money to the church. And that, of course, you know, Bonnie was okay with

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Lis Wiehl Shares the Intriguing Tale of 'A Spy in Plain Sight'

The Eric Metaxas Show

03:05 min | 2 months ago

Lis Wiehl Shares the Intriguing Tale of 'A Spy in Plain Sight'

"We have a really exciting guest talking about a very exciting book and subject, exciting, depressing, amazing. I don't know where to begin. You probably already know my guest. Lee's wheel, maybe you saw her over the years on Fox News or on CNN or any place just a prominent legal mind federal prosecutor on and on and on. It goes, and she has now written a book. I got to tell you, it's nothing less than shocking. It's titled a spy in plain sight. The inside story of the FBI and Robert Hanssen, America's most damaging Russian spy, remember the Cold War folks. Remember when we were at war with the Soviet Union, they were a superpower in those days. And there was somebody on the inside. It just, it's one of the most amazing stories ever. A number of books have been written about it. This is being called the best of them all, a spy in plain sight Lee's wheel. Welcome to the program. Eric, it's great to be with you. Thanks so much for that kind introduction. Well, I tell you, when I read originally about Robert Hansen, it was one of these things, it's out of a movie. It's a nightmare that somebody would be this deeply embedded in our FBI working for our enemies. Today it would be, you know, working for China. But give us the background for people who don't remember the details, the timing, the years, the decades, so that we have some sense of who this monster Robert Hansen was. Yeah, and you've got it right. He really is a monster. I mean, finally, he's locked up now forever. So he's in a 24 hour or 23 hour solitary confinement and Florence Colorado in a supermarket, a super max. But started, you know, kind of an unremarkable upbringing. He was a middle class in Chicago, his father was a cop, kind of trying to tough on him. I mean, really tough on him. We'd call it child abuse now. But he grew up, became an accountant and then joined the FBI, which was really the Pinnacle for him. You know, it was just the thing that he wanted to be. He admired James Bond. He wanted to be everything, James Bond. So the enters in the early 80s into the bureau. And Eric within a year of entering the FBI, he approaches the Russians. They don't have to flip him. He approaches them. He doesn't tell them who he is, but he says he has this great Intel information for them. And indeed, it is the first thing that he's gives them is the identity of our major the primo Russian asset that we had at the time on the ground. And of course, we rely on those people to give us information from you said it, China, North Korea, Russia. He was at the very top level of the counter espionage unit in the

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"robert hansen" Discussed on Talk Is Jericho

Talk Is Jericho

03:59 min | 10 months ago

"robert hansen" Discussed on Talk Is Jericho

"Yeah i think that guests suggestion there for you. But i use never know what these families are thinking about going through because they had no clue for all they knew. Dad was working on accounting project that summer and they come to find out he had killed at least seventeen women. That's got a we talk about trauma. I don't think it gets much worse than that. Let's get bt gays bind torture kill. That was his. Mo th begic Last question. I think we talked about this last time. And this is for both both. You guys Is this something that you are born with. Is it something that the childhood caused him to do. I mean all of us have had some worse than others. But you know bad childhoods or a stern father or stern mother but not a lot of us ended up to be serial killers chasing naked prostitutes through the wild and killing them. Yeah i i don't think it's one or the other i think it's unfortunately a combination of both. I think he was playing with a stacked deck. I think he. He had some mental health issues that you know if he was treated and he had a great family that could you know support him and make sure he got the treatment he needed. You may went on to live a healthy life but unfortunately his home life was not awesome. He had no friends. He was completely alone with no meaningful relationships. In his life. I think that coupled with the mental health issues culminated in who he became. I think it's waited for every individual. I think for some a lot of it does come like those mental health issues are impossible to become and they play you for your entire life or hanson. I feel like a lot more of it. Yes he did have the mental health issues that played a role. I think a bigger piece of the pie may go to all the rejection that he suffered and all the issues that he had to deal with. Yes we we all had acne. Yes we all got rejected but it was. It was constant for him. He wasn't believe even allowed to use your dominant hand like he wasn't allowed to do anything he wanted to do during his adolescence. And i feel like for him. That played a larger role in creating who he would be even though the mental health a sort of course an important piece and the last thing i'll say is such it just bums me out. When a guy like that he goes to prison ends up dying jail seventy five years old. You know people. These killing seventeen year old women did this last. Tilles seventy five. You know what. I mean like assists. Sometimes you wonder but What a what. An incredible story and other completely disturbing tale from me you you sick bastards. You just covered another case. That will drop sometime soon. His name is killer from brazil and he was a criminal bet. Saw all these bad people doing these monstrous things and would kill them. So why couldn't have couldn't pinson ran into a like killer. Pdf jail and like during like it tastes or something you know. We all have friends that died of some terrible disease at a very young age. It's like hanson. Should take that and give his years two other people that deserve it. You know what i mean. But that's not a life works but killer pd. That sounds interesting. Maybe we'll do that next time On on talks jericho but scraped having you guys on always Enthralling stories and you guys a great guests. I look forward to having you on again When you come up with something else. I mean we appreciate you really need. Thanks chris or guys. Thank you so much conspiracy theories sarah normal. Ufo's just some of the things they talk about on theories of the third kind so the first alien and ufo encounter that. I'm going to go over today. Happened back in. Nineteen seventy three in the state of mississippi on the pascagoula river. Have either of you heard of this incident. Es have not. You're in for a treat theories of the third kind. Listen wherever you get your podcasts..

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"robert hansen" Discussed on Talk Is Jericho

Talk Is Jericho

07:10 min | 10 months ago

"robert hansen" Discussed on Talk Is Jericho

"Once they put together this team to investigate these crimes. These are the bodies that they found. He confessed to these four in a long time. Prosecutors will say you know what we have evidence for these others that these four airtight. These are the four that we know we can take trial. You can get a conviction on. And they don't wanna risk bring in fifth one that may cause the jury question the whole thing so they felt like these were lock and they stayed with those and i get it logically but emotionally just doesn't feel right taking place once again and he passed away of two thousand fourteen. So did he ever do any interviews at all like television interviews or anything like that you know. Sometimes they would get these guys and talk to them about what they were doing. No not that we know of he. He gave the police what they wanted to know and he went and he tried to live the rest of his life anonymously in prison. He was as far as we know a model prisoner. Which somehow i feel like a lot of serial killers end up being model prisoners. He was victimizing female sex workers. He didn't have access to that. He wasn't a big strong guy. That's going to go in and caused a lot of trouble in prison. But he never really spoke out about his motives. He never spoke out about his childhood. He never spoke out about his crimes except during his confessions with police. Which a lot of these guys want attention but that was not something that robert hanssen sought out. It was just the. I guess the thrill of the hunt for him even though he was really stacking the deck and that hunting game. When you look at his sake. I trick records. He he had bipolar disorder. And so sometimes you would have treatment for that. So i'm wondering if in prison they are treating him for this and that's why he was a model citizen. He goes on medicines that he needed to try to live a healthier life. Bipolar disorder and schizophrenia is interesting too because as as as we start to wind down here. You're seeing all of the. You know the movies that i haven't seen this frozen ground with john cusak nicholas cage Basically about that story. But there's also fbi files there's crime stories. There's investigation discovery. There's you know. Oxygen shows and travel channel shows. There's a lot of Kind of reports and documentaries and and and You know re-creations of this. Why do you think that robert hanssen and and his his crimes are so interesting to us. I think it's because of. I don't i don't know when i think about this case i think about the book most dangerous game every and so i mean it is just. It's it's so connected to that. And i mean we hear about so many serial killers but i think it's the aspect of taking them into the middle of the woods dropping them off after he's already done such horrible things to and then he hunts them down like animals. I think that is the piece that makes us stick out amongst so many other serial killers ever covered. It just seems so fictitious that somebody would do this and be could get away with it for so long but it also interest me that it's not one of the common ones that we hear you rolled off or five serial killers earlier in the show and they're a handful more that everybody knows those named not. Everybody knows robert hanssen. How much does that have to do with it. Happening in alaska with it happening during this time in history when things were awful up there anyway. My bigger question is why. Don't we know more about this. As far as pop culture goes yes. We see these movies based on it with these. See these crime shows based on it but it's never tied back to him and his name's never brought up in those seeking another reason to is that like you know if you go back to like. Let's say the cookbook killer. Like that's it's so. I mean even know if disgusting disturbing or whatever it may be but this is something like you see it in movies and you know like you could put yourself in this position in already mean like when you set the ultimate detail of this is is. The criminals is victims being stripped naked. You know because. That's kind of the most undignified thing and just imagine if you're now naked in the woods and these are woods that he knows it's like that really kind of what chance do you have. You know what. I mean i can. I can envision myself in this position which i think makes it that much more chilling to think about what he did with these victims went through and i think that was kind of his point. Is that when they would make this offer to him and say i'll perform this. Act this amount of money to him. They were no longer human being. They were people who had sex for money and they were not and they became animals him at some point so by taking them out there and abusing them and stripping them down they were at their most primal vulnerable state and he viewed them as animals At that point and you mentioned him knowing the would like he was. We mentioned that he was a good hunter. He held four world records or all cheap. Which i didn't know within animals like a big thing and caribou like in how. What's interesting young and poke did not. That's the book of hunting world. Records initially said his records. Don't have anything to do with his murder. They stand but later on they would kinda succumb to the pressure and and removed his name from the record books but he was very good hunter that could easily find these women and take care of them in the wild so that so that's the thing because he's such a cunning hunter he's just using those same skills that he used for a would you say bog sheep about ball. Sheep abol sheep but apply dulcie and applying that to human being right there as well. Yeah but a doll. She at least has the i don't know they have a natural characteristic bilton to hide or defend themselves and they're familiar with the territory but these women certainly were not. They had absolutely no chance. Just a chilling. It's almost like it reminds me of silence of the lambs. When he kidnaps the daughter of the governor and he puts her to the well and the and the and the governor's saying her name. 'cause they're trying to make this woman be a human you know and when you mentioned that that hanson's now writing these people off. They're bad people. He probably didn't even know their name. Just saw them as just animals. And that's probably how he was able to justify do. I'm just killing an animal. Like i would kill a dull dall. Sheep like you mentioned. And what we don't have is of course. He sent his family away for the summer when they get back. He's being investigated for this for this crime and these murders. We never got any reaction from them. They tried to stay in the area but their kids were harassed for being the kids of a killer and eventually they had to move away of course but really don't know anything about their reaction i referenced. bt earlier is daughter. Carrie rawson is very outspoken. About her childhood and finding out her dad was a killer..

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"robert hansen" Discussed on Talk Is Jericho

Talk Is Jericho

06:44 min | 10 months ago

"robert hansen" Discussed on Talk Is Jericho

"Is We covered a few that have kept the underwear of all of all of them. So they just like that trophy so they can relive it and so they can have that as a victory mark like jon said. This might be weird but you can hear a song. Sometimes it just takes you back to like a powerful memory where worsening to that phone. I almost think that like it's such a powerful reminder of that feeling that you had when you were doing whatever you were doing going through. The list is a couple. The old school eighteen hundred goldrush names. Here i just love was like beatles songs horseshoe area it and lieutnant anne. There's a couple others elva. Those individuals that were bodies that were found and he was actually charged with the murder of a nanny and they were tied back to him and he admitted both of those but they were never identified as their real identities so they were sex workers. You mentioned that nobody would miss them. We couldn't even track back and identity for these two victims of robert hanssen. So yeah they were given those names as kind of place holders instead of just jane doe until they figured out who they were and they never did. Unfortunately i mean obviously when you're talking about these these stories in this only hanson and his victim. Did he ever give any detailed descriptions. Because you're looking through here and there's a lot of you know. She was found in a shallow grave. This is sherry moral. She had been shot in the back. No bullet holes in the clothing. Like you said suggesting she had been shot while nude and then redress before being buried. Did he ever explain any of these or they were just kind of going off the forensics that they've found on the bodies now he he explained the process as i would seek out a sex worker once. She showed me that she was not a decent person. I would have my way with them physically and sexually and then i would go and hunt them. Occasionally i would feel merciful and let them go but he never went into the tactic of why he stabs him and why he shot Why he re dressed some of them why he ultimately. We don't know why he let the ones go that he did let go. He did confessed to committing crimes but he never really opened up into what he actually did. What we do know is when his wife was a schoolteacher and they had two kids in the summer they got caught. He sent them away for the summer and he said i'm going to stay here and work on my summer project and his number project was using their basement as a place to hold woman. So that's where we see. Cindy paulson kidnapped her any change her by the neck to opole in her basement and his basement. I'm i'm excited to talk about. Cindy because if there is a bright spot in the story it seemed like she is the hero who. That's awful awful story quickly before we we before before we get into send though. I just wanna ask more question so you mentioned that. He bought his own plane So as he just fairbanks or wherever wherever he is anchorage izzy finding these girls. Drugging them putting them on a plane flying them then they wake up in the wilderness. Like how is he getting them from point a to be with this plane. Yeah so he would. He wasn't drugging them. That we know of but he would used them sexually and physically and just beat them withhold food and water from them for days where they had no energy to fight back. He was worse than you put them in his car. Drive them right up to his plane because it was a really small private plane and he would just toss them in the back of the plane he would get in and drive off and he had a plane that had i read about like the tires. They were almost like big balloons where he could land pretty much anywhere in this plane. He didn't have to have a big open field. He could just kinda drop it down. It was small and the of these big blue light tires and it was perfect what he was doing unbelievable. But okay. let's talk like you said about the breitbart about the here of the stories. Cindy paulson. yeah so he would. He would offer her. I think a couple of hundred dollars for oral sex and so she agreed to get in the car with them in once she got in the car. That's what jamie was saying she. He drove her to his family. Home soccer down to the basement and tied her up to a beam in the basement downstairs. And that's when he raped her repeatedly. I mean to the point where she she was physically weak by by everything that he'd been doing but he was nonchalant about it like i remember even went upstairs to take a nap once he was done in then. He woke up and took her in the plane. Or we're going to take her to. The plane suits a flyer to this area but on the when she got there so the airport. She's freaking escapes. She got out of his she got out of there and she was able even though she was bound she was handcuffed. She was able to run down the street. And that's when a truck driver driving down the road. It's all her and was able to pick her up and drive her away. The truck driver even said that that that hanson was chasing her with a gun. You know so. There's only gosh this is a bad situation. So they ended up driving to motel where she didn't want to call police because she was a sex worker so she basically calling to. You know to turn herself and so but the lady working there. The motels like no honey. We're calling police on that one and so the truck driver and cindy were able to give police details about this guy like it. Wears house was at what kind of car he drove eight. She left up in his car. What once you leave. She left her shoes her blue tennis shoes in his car so that she can say see. That's where i was so she ran away barefooted. Like when you're in. And i've never been anything close to the situation that she was in but oftentimes what we see with victims. Are that your your details. That you're seeing are not very accurate. But in her case she held it together so well and she gave the police the information they needed to really hone in on this guy and to get away such the right moment he was having trouble getting the seat in the plane to lay down so she noticed that he was distracted and she was able to slip out passenger side door there and and get away when she actually got to the hotel. She went to a hotel where her boyfriend's slash. What's a good word for a boss for sex workers other than pimp john. Okay yeah the guy that she worked for in a boyfriend. They're immediately left to go. Try to find. Robert hanssen to kill him as police responding to suny paulson. Where else paulson was able to help. Bring down robert hanson. Finally before we get into that story and one's title of finance super app is firmly unchallenged. There are powerhouse.

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"robert hansen" Discussed on Talk Is Jericho

Talk Is Jericho

06:27 min | 10 months ago

"robert hansen" Discussed on Talk Is Jericho

"Let's talk some details about the robert. Hanssen case tells about cindy paulson. Who was one of his very important victims q. Actually the victim. That brought him down. If you want to go ahead and go into that. She was the one that got caught. Okay well i mean if you have if you have other details besides that of other of other ladies or is there more stories specific stories. Yeah so this one very interesting to me. It was patty roberts and she had been working as a sex worker for awhile and he actually kidnapped her and he's renton to kill her but she talked him out of it. She talked him into letting her go. Apparently this happened a few times but when he let her go he went into her purse and he got out the information for her parents. He wrote down her parents name and address and said if you go to the police i am going to find you and kill you and your parents so she said okay fair enough but she still wants to police. He was brought in for questioning and they asked him. They wanted to do a writing sample to see if it matched. What was in the hotel. With paddy roberts and when he had signed into the hotel and out of wallet. They'll this note with her dad's information on it. So you would think we've got this guy. He kidnapped this lady. We've got these other women that are showing up dead. We've got a case here. The police were so worried about the fact that they didn't have a search warrant and they came up with this note that they didn't want to pursue it at the time so they let him go after having this crucial piece of evidence the should have tied him directly to at least some of the kidnappings of not all the murders. How does these guys do this. It's insane it is i and you would think he's not like he was very insecure. He had better. How can he be charming enough to make that happen. Well i mean unlike the the guy we talked about last time are you. You know trying to get people to get into his car like he was picking people. This guy was picking people that would naturally get into his car right even thinking sex workers so you know as dangerous as it is. They're used to getting into cars with creepers right so it wouldn't be unnatural for them to get in the car with them and then that's when the crap could go down. One thing that patty did mention is when she went into police. They had a book of people in the local police. This was written by sergeant. Walter gilmore and leland hale. They wrote a book called the butcher baker which one of his big names bob the butcher baker which i feel like is a lame serial killer now. Too much like bob. The builder whatever They say that anchors cops had what they call the asshole book and wish they had photos and names from all the sexual predators and deviants that they had in town when these sex workers come in they would get out this book and say which of these assholes tried to hurt you of course would would usually end up being their word against the word of the assailants which was often robert hanson. He had people serving as an alibi and his wife's friends were now by forum so nothing would ever really stick to him and he continued to grow and he continued to just like most of these killers even more frequently hurt people as time when along. Cow looking at a list of his victims ear. And it says you know. The hanson is known to have raped and assaulted over thirty alaskan women and to have murdered at least seventeen raging ages from sixteen to forty one a lot of these ones that kind of just going through the list of beth then xanten megan emmerick mary till he's the nine killing them but he's suspected because of an axe on his aviation map. What exactly does that mean you. Guys familiar with was so with that absolutely. That's one of the big keys of the cases. When he was finally arrested and they they raided his house he had in his attic behind a wall that was where he kept his trophies right. We know serial killers like to keep things. Robert hanssen had a lot of different pieces of jewelry. From is his victims. He had some of the items that were allegedly stolen in the insurance scam but he also had this map and it was a map of the area around the river where he would fly into and he would let his victims go and kill them and there were twenty xs on this map that would ultimately where he buried the bottoms the bodies of his victims throughout the wilderness so he really had essentially a treasure map to the burial sites of almost all of his victims in the police had literally a map to those when they arrested him and part of his deal. That will get you later. Was that he had to leave them. To each of those identified the body but there were like you said there were a few that he never confessed to their xs that he refused to take them to. Nobody really knows what it was about. Those bodies those individuals are those crimes that he just. He admitted everything else. But why not those. Some people speculated that something would have happened during his rape process or during whatever he was doing with him that like maybe they hurt his feelings in some way that he didn't want to tell police where they were so they can never be identified. He wouldn't give them the courtesy basically of being identified and found. That's pure speculation that some people think about the the ones that were never identified. You mentioned something jamie. That i just wanted to touch on briefly said serial killers like to keep things. What is the reason for that as far as you know. I don't know if you know like i did this. And this is my reminder that i am powerful and i'm the man you know so it. It's almost like gratification. For doing what gives them so much pleasure. i think. There's also an element of allowing them to relive the crime. It's a direct connection to the people that they killed a lot of times. We'll see killers go back to the scene of the crime and even some of them will get off on being there and i think they can take those trophies and just take a moment to go back to that moment where they got the gratification of committing that murder so to them they can relive those crimes over and over to get that feeling back just a little bit but often they'll take some killers will take jewelry some. We'll take wallet some. we'll take pieces of hair some. We'll take fingers like it's different for every killer depending on how sadistic and.

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"robert hansen" Discussed on Talk Is Jericho

Talk Is Jericho

05:22 min | 10 months ago

"robert hansen" Discussed on Talk Is Jericho

"Let's get back to robert hanson. He goes to prison for twenty months. What happens while he's there and then what happens when he gets out. Yeah when he's there like his parents and everybody he kinda like makes them believe that he was innocent of this whole thing but then once he's in the in prison or in jail. He finally admits to his wife and his parents look. I actually did do this. And so while he's in jail his wife just leaves them she's done with this guy you know and rightly so he's he's not acting like a man at this point that's amazing to and you think what nineteen sixty like divorce was not You know leaving your husband at that. Point in time was really frowned upon so for her to do that shows just how over it. She was being around this crazy guy. Absolutely yeah i mean. Nobody wants to spend the rest of their lives with somebody who's going to be in and out of jail for such a stupid things so she she left us on the seeds already starting to get planted here when you said that he was convincing people. He didn't do this and as the story unfolds. He does the same thing that that nathaniel bar jona did. And that jon. Casey did and that he's constantly onnaing. These people into believing he didn't do something that really pisses me off reading about and hearing about it but continue on as he's already started this this pattern of convincing people that he's innocent in your exactly right man like he. He doesn't live in some dark creepy basement and live at what we would know to the serial killer last. I like you would eventually moved to alaska and jamie. We'll talk about that more. But he opens up. his own. bakery has a really successful business. Police officers come into the bakery. All the time says the so to them. This guy is a normal businessman living a good life. We can afford a plane like he lives a pretty normal lifestyle so you would assume the guys got his stuff together. You know you mentioned those other killers. That's where we get into like bt k. Guy who is well known for being a serial killer who his family had no idea what was happening. And that's what we see here with robert hanssen when he does end up remarrying darla henriksen in nineteen sixty three they pick up they move everything to alaska and again people assume. Maybe he's gonna settle down now but then. His crimes shifted to a lot of thefts like petty theft. Just like stealing candy stealing small items from stores. It's like he got a sexual gratification. From getting away with stealing things would come back to buy them later down the line when he was in alaska his dad who he did not have a great relationship with got kind of sick and so he wanted to buy his data chainsaw He said he didn't have the money to do it so he actually went into. A store walked around a few times and stole a chainsaw. So he too that you know. The guy has a successful business like oh by chainsaw right exactly. It's not that expensive. But during this time to i'm seeing that he was also arrested a couple times and now you're starting to get into these abducting attempted rapes and that sort of thing. Yeah well we mentioned his hunting skills and we'll we'll get back to those in just a minute but that's when we start to see those first abductions those first victims if you will he again. He's he's married and he's running this bakery. There's a woman who comes into his bakery. She's a real estate secretary and after she leaves the bakery. He actually followed her to her house and tried to talk her into letting him come in now. She made him go away. 'cause those baker follow me home. That's creepy a few days later. He came back and brought a gun with him and he threatened a killer. She called for help and he had planned to sexually assaulted. We've seen him burn things down steel but this is where the violence directly toward individuals. Pick up while awaiting trial for this charge. There was additional suspension about suspicion about hanson in two separate much more severe cases. Things are about to take a darker turn here. In the first one starts with nineteen seventy-one december twenty second batman stanton was hanging out with her brothers and their anchorage home. She lived with three of her brothers and there was a cousin that lived with them but basically she wanted to drink and she decided to walk down the street and try to hitchhike to the bilo grocery store. I don't know why somebody looking to hitchhike in alaska in december. I feel like that would be very cold very very dangerous when we talk more about what was happening in alaska at that time but that Trump did not end for for her very well did a john. Yeah no like she would be later found. She would be found next to a waterfall right. Jamie yeah so. How was she found there. What happened yeah. There were two hundred founder on christmas day so she'd been missing for three days and she was found. She was naked from the bottom half but her clothes were the top africa. Clothes were on her but once they took that shirt off they saw her bra had been cut off. She had been slashed in the chest several times she had been sexually assaulted and she hadn't even been killed by whoever killed her which we now believe hansen. She was left in the wilderness to freeze to death and had fallen down a waterfall. And that's where the hunters founder. So.

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"robert hansen" Discussed on Talk Is Jericho

Talk Is Jericho

07:03 min | 10 months ago

"robert hansen" Discussed on Talk Is Jericho

"All right. So one of the most Talked about shows that i did a while. Was the cookbook killer with john. And jamie from the true crime cast and You know being the always looking for new topics and looking for cool things. I said that was so incredibly disgusting and terrible. You have any more. They're like are you kidding me. We've got plenty more so They're back today and Did you guys get a good reception from the Cookbook killer show. Yeah we had some really good feedback from that As far as he is positive people can be about a serial killer eating children. Yeah right right. And once again. I'd never heard of that before. But we're going to talk about a guy that acl robert hanssen and this is a topic that i have heard the name. But you've heard the the idea of this to the point where they've even made movies off boozer based around this guy. But there's been definitely lots of hollywood kind of interpretations of robert hanssen story my corrective out that. Yeah there's a movie called frozen ground starring. John cusak as robert hanssen. There are several criminal minds episodes based on this topic and it's essentially the most dangerous game. He's he's letting human it loose in the wilderness and hunting them down and that's the way that he goes about killing his victims which we'll get into how he chooses them and that kind of thing later but yeah hunting them down in the alaskan wilderness like animals robert hanssen Just to go as a quick quick description. Serial killer in between seventy one and eighty three of -ducted raped and murdered at least seventeen women in and around anchorage. Alaska hunted many of them down in the wilderness with a with a gun and a knife. So this is the type of guy that he's actually finding victims. Basically you know we'll fill all this taking them up to a remote spot in in in alaska letting them loose and then chasing after the movies basically the running man you know But a real life much more disturbing version of of this concept. Yeah very much. And he's not even giving them a chance to give them a chance to get away. He's sexually assaulting them and abusing them and weakening them before he lets them loose so he's not even it's not even a game to him because there's no chance of survival for most of these women. Well let's get into it. I mean once again you guys have a great show and you find out a lot about these horrible people. How did robert hanssen. Come on your radar. Yeah this was one of those that we were just when when you asked us to come back on i was like how do we up the crazy. How do we make any more ridiculous than the cookbook killer. And i don't know if this is gross but to me it's just as fascinating so so we discover the topic and the more we looked into it. Really the the crazier it gets even though we've kinda told the premise the details over there even more weird he was born in iowa and estherville. That was around the minnesota border. It was a tiny little spot. There's only about six thousand people that live there and anytime we're researching case we try to look up. You know what whose whose notable from that area. You're only a few people that came up. One was another murderer. We have robert hanssen. And then we have the current dean of medicine at johns hopkins school of education. So like the mixed bag coming out of estherville there so was it like You know when we're talking about his child. I know for example. The cookbook killer. There was a lot of kind of strange things happening when he was a kid. Where you're seeing. Some neon signs of some mental illness listened. Some issues did did hanson. Show any of that During his Foreign will years. Yeah there were definitely some issues. But but i've seen so many cases with like so much worse like this kid wasn't sexually abused or physically abused like that. We know of what his dad was really stern like his dad in him did not have a great relationship is dan ran a bakery and so this kid was forced to work there like reportedly long hours and he was just kind of a backwards kid like he wasn't really confident head a lot of acne problems had stuttering problem. You had like zero friends in school. So he had a pretty rough y you know outside of his home life. He he didn't have anybody who's a loner. So kind of the stereotypical things that you look for in someone who grows up to be you know kind of a murderer man guy kinda guy i. It's hard to put into words when you're thinking about about hanson Obviously growing into this. I mean i i just can't wrap my head around it. You know what. I mean to to see what he became and what he grew into these crimes. When did he start exhibiting some odd behavior that starts taking us down this road to where he's actually kidnapping people and releasing them as as animals to hunt down like deer You know at the lake in october. Yeah with a lot of killers we cover. There's usually like big moments of. They murdered a cat or they burn down a building. It's more of a slow burn. Robert hanssen is important to note that he was a really big hunter. He was really big on Just getting out in the wilderness. He was really good at hunting. Which is i don't know that's something that creeps me out personally. I grew up in the woods. I grew up hunting so to me. That's kind of normal part of my childhood. But retrospect that's certainly scary. Yeah so he was a hundred and after high school he joined the army reserves. So not only was he a good hunter recreationally. He was trained by the us military to be like hunting humans. So so he's a good marksman he he was really well trained and what he did. There were some other pieces he. He was always rejected by girls. He referred to himself as the all american nerd so he kinda owned it and he would say things like yeah. I understand why girls don't like me so self esteem is low which is often a big part of this. He was left handed but he was made to act like he was right handed. Which is just odd to me. Yeah his dad. Like i was really stern and his dad made him become a right handed person even though he was naturally a left handed person so his dad forced him to do everything right handed so i think that just goes to speak to what kind of dude we're dealing with and his dad so you can see the relationship strange and they go deal. Left-handed used to be considered a disability. So this was in the nineteen fifties not a huge shock to me. The still he continued to make him more insecure. His stutter got worse and he really just had trouble making social connections at all but the slow build to his criminal. Life comes after. He finally did get a girlfriend he actually got married in. Nineteen.

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"robert hansen" Discussed on Real Monsters

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03:28 min | 1 year ago

"robert hansen" Discussed on Real Monsters

"Crazy. Yeah so so what. I was just thinking. I'm still trying to wrap my mind around thirty seven but it ended up with the confession. There was seventeen murders. He confessed to the only found twelve in thirty. Rapes is what. He confessed to robert hanson. He confessed to the ones that he that they found. He confessed to a total of seventeen murders but they only found twelve bodies and he had twenty seven marks on his map Thirty seven thirty seven on his map. Yep and then. Thirty rapes was the rest of what he confessed to. yes interesting. Apparently he was shuffled from state prison to state prison until like twenty twelve when they put him up in anchorage shortly before he died of an undisclosed illness. I might add. Kelly's question there. I don't think. I don't think it had anything to do with not giving up two locations in as much as because of the environmental conditions on the ground and being where it was that there just wasn't anything left you know. Yeah absolutely especially. I mean even if even if he did bury them like the one that they did find they were not very deep at all. Yeah exactly and he hadn't even at that. You know a shallow grave or no grave and the wildlife would take care of remove bound removing the body and scattering the bones. You know in very short order. Yep remember they did have the xs on his map to It's one of the reasons they haven't found all of bundy's victims. Because oh i imagine he's dumped in in some remote for here areas awful logging roads and you know we've got bear in coyote and All manner of critters roaming around the world who would have loved to pick it bones and haul off to their dens. just thinking about. I still can't get over. What a pussy. He was to robert hands. Yeah almost a cartoonish caricature you know. Let's take all the sport out of it when we're doing it. Let's do it. let's kill women's. I can prop up my fragile ego. I don't know why but he's getting under my skinned more than these guys usually do. Well you know..

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03:34 min | 1 year ago

"robert hansen" Discussed on Real Monsters

"But they did find other evidence in they found its trophies up there too. Oh yeah yeah. I'm just i'm just picking it. The terminology that the media uses Has gone blocks. it's really a cash. But worry keeps them they find. You know that women's jewelry and driver's licenses and business cards a plastic bag up there too. Yeah mean wise and keep in mind. Meanwhile they're grilling hanson still and all he really admitted to was what he knew was on the public record. And that was you know. I used hookers. Never heard one basically all set but another interesting thing that they found. When we're doing these searches was a map with various xs on it. We definitely do. I've got. I've got this coming to set aside. Go this is a aviation map. The one in hanson's plane there is a total of thirty seven x.'s. That were marked on this. And they start noticing. Police started noticing that those xs coincided with where bodies were buried id sabre finding were buried. Oopsy what does hanson say. Meanwhile with that he says oh yeah you know. I flew my plane around those areas. I even landed there. I went and i shot. Wolves for target practice is what he said which was legal. Yeah sure but. I don't think it's an explanation by. Yeah especially since these are. These are the big circle. Senders the big dark circle with the flat side. That's that's the controlled airspace for anchorage and you know Saying saying that you you that was for shooting wolves a you know why you know why. It's not plausible. Why's that because it's fucking planes like you would say you know the easter up in the permafrost. Well never mind. It's all permafrost but up around farther north north fairbanks even when you starting to get up towards dead horse which is on the bering sea. Yeah you get past those northern mountains where it becomes more wide open lot easier to shoot running animal than through the trees and fjords..

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"robert hansen" Discussed on Real Monsters

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05:51 min | 1 year ago

"robert hansen" Discussed on Real Monsters

"Let's see and he was careful organized killer and as these other graves start popping up most of them. Around the nick river they were excavated in the same manner as that first one archaeologically and with a fine tooth comb basically. That's where you also had some people saying that. He was similar to the green river. Killer in inhaling in halle disposed of the bodies i think was the big thing except ridgway. He didn't he didn't bury 'em all he just doesn't in out of the way places Maybe that was enough for him. Yeah i you know. I'm trying to look at it the way that they would have that time to you. Know of the benefit of right back right and and you know it. They could've could've thought like this woman's buried in a shallow on the riverbank but was she really buried or was that just you know you know gravel carried during the runoff. That buried her. Oh you absolutely that or even. Bears animates wildlife right which which disturbed a few of these graves to. I'd be surprised if that didn't happen. In fact oh yeah you know. If they hadn't excavated these the way that they did they might have missed the shell casings. That were there to these bodies had a Casing from a to three rifle which is one of the popular chambers for hunting and for the. Ar fifteen yes slash m16 which you know. Hey guess what he was army. Yep he was so he he that might be where he got. I mean 'cause you as a hunter you can use a wide range of calibers. But he would have been comfortable with the two to three from his army training. Absolutely some people. I was reading. Did ask the question why he didn't bury it up a little bit with that. Why didn't they police brass my bottom a little bit more time. But you know baby like you were saying there that became essentially part of his signature for what he did signatures. Have a tendency not to change. Its true plus the fact that you know you'd have to be frankly surprised to have any of these bodies found..

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Real Monsters

03:02 min | 1 year ago

"robert hansen" Discussed on Real Monsters

"Often. But here's here's here's another aspect of alaska life. That is not often appreciated. And that is. They didn't always know who was in the state who wasn't no. You know people come up there. They get off the ferry boat or they drive up. They don't register anything they might come into. You know their head into the you know going to create a new life and not even what the hell the guy and the bush they might stop at a store. Grab some supplies and then just disappear and hardly talk to anybody in may. Never be seen again. Oh yeah and that that dynamic is actually kind of multiplied in the case of the sex workers in people who were doing that absolutely because of the nature of the work but also because anchorage would serve. As as sorta launching point for places like seattle. They would send them to portland to and even honolulu after. There was another big one so it was not at all unusual for you. Know these girls to disappear but right. It's soon happened. There was enough of them where they set up a task force. Yeah it's it's not at all uncommon for sex workers of various stripes to move to new towns. Because you know what. I see your face often enough. They want something new. Oh yeah and not to mention stain head of the law to well. Well that's that's an important aspect. Yeah now the reason they should legalize. Yeah the september twelfth. Nineteen eighty-two body was waitress dancer sherry morrow who was reported missing november seventeenth nineteen eighty-one by her boyfriend. Apparently the last thing that she was going to do was go to a photo. Shoot with son unnamed me which would become a commonality for the next one that disappeared in that was su luna. Always that was that a ruse. He used yes. You often use the the photo fair. He didn't have really anything to do with photography right. it was all bullshit. Think he kept any polaroid's he did keep trophies as we were talking about which. Interestingly that can be looked at as type of symbiotic merger. Yeah where. He's making the victim part of him or him. The victim keep it. Yeah i don't think even.

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Real Monsters

03:01 min | 1 year ago

"robert hansen" Discussed on Real Monsters

"He had another weird thing that kind of drove him here that might explain a bit of that sadist behaviour and be not so status attended to see women as a dichotomy of good girl or bad girl in his words it good girl would be like a religious types like his wife who apparently thought she could fix them and that's why she stayed as long as she did. And then you know the bad girls. The hookers in the tenderloin district of anchorage. The strippers topless bartenders. That he would pick up. So yeah and i think levers he's as they're in between is there no. I'm kidding ladies. Geez you know a lot of guys think. It's really interesting dichotomy but a mix. Yeah oh absolutely please understand we are talking about a diseased. Mind here. yeah yeah. At any rate it was september twelfth. Nineteen eighty two where you had a These guys were actually cops. Were out hunting at the nick. River is a khandaker is a nick g. n. i c. k. Nick that nick. Yeah they were out hunting and they come across you know a foot sticking out of the riverbed so they do what they do and being cops. This was a great thing. They knew not to disturb it any further over them. Yeah even they even back. In the olden days they knew they got their people out there right away and the way that they excavated. I thought was really interesting. We have a picture of that. Actually they did. It layer by layer like an archaeological dig. I think we have one of them sifting. Oh yeah yeah. Yeah we do. I mea- Pull that went up separately. They would do that literally. Layer by layer of soil in between taking pictures from all different angles and You know while while this is a new thing for them certainly dealing with homicides out there yeah it's not was not all that new for them at the time to be dealing with death out there is they would find people who get trapped out there hikers or what have you.

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"robert hansen" Discussed on Real Monsters

Real Monsters

03:09 min | 1 year ago

"robert hansen" Discussed on Real Monsters

"Is well. Yeah it's just really stood out to me with hansen but it was nine hundred seventy one when all that happened and he started escalating more Was also when he had that polar diagnosis. They scripted him. Listen but there was no court order to take it. So god knows that that affected him or not Yeah just to give people an idea. You know anchorages the city and it's probably got like i don't know as a significant percentage of the entire state population is in anchorage and suburbs. Well i wouldn't be surprised if it was above twenty five percent. I'm sure and yet one of the major causes of traffic jams. In anchorage are moose. Because of course moose are bigger than you think. Oh yeah and they don't get so big they don't give a fuck about anything or anybody. They just go where they want. Yeah oh absolutely i mean. I've i've been within ten yards of bull move before you know his. I was fourteen. At the time. I would have had to have raised my hand way above my head to touch. It's back. oh yeah. They're big man huge. Yeah and slightly and the point is that even though he anchorages city it's barely carved out of the wilderness. Just early. it's just it's not just right on the edges of town it comes into town. We'll the wilderness. It walks into town. There's they've had a problem in the last couple of years of people in the suburbs out going for a walk or a jog with their little yapper dogs and wolves run up and take them. Well right leasing all just snatch them right away from the people in a runoff. Dang it's it is as you say fuck in wild west yep and even more so back in the time. We're look yeah united. After all that happened he starts looking for more victims and this is lynn hansen first admits to his later confession that he i thought of hunting them was after all this happened. In one thousand nine hundred seventy one..

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"robert hansen" Discussed on Real Monsters

Real Monsters

03:43 min | 1 year ago

"robert hansen" Discussed on Real Monsters

"In he would most likely also keep the cups on them for that Yeah just when i was looking at that. That's immediately what. I thought it takes all of the sport out of it. You're just a wannabe mccheese memo bullshit artist Says you like to hunt women but you only like to hunt them. If they're blindfolded and can't in any way try to evade you basically. He often would take their shoes right so so they're handicapped in multiple ways. Yep they have no means of defending. I mean. it doesn't wanna make it a game. No no i mean he really doesn't he just want something that's going to prop up his ego being where i'm from in illinois we are right near the county you that is most populated with white tail deer. Hunting is a huge thing here. Yeah people hunt for the venison and in a lot of ways. Hanson kinda reminds me of the city slickers. Yeah yeah and just want to you know hunt toget- amount and nothing else in oftentimes stable hunt deer. That have been fed on farms. They're not free rank right all they want to fucking trophy. And that was hanson to. All he wanted was a fucking trove. Well you know. As again as i say i've lived almost all my life in the western. Us and there's a great disdain. A great disdain for city hunters from the cities. You don't know shit who yup are disrespectful and of of the animals even absolutely you know hunters that i know i don't hunt myself but instead i know take great reverence toward the animal. When they're out there massive respect for them and their their abilities. And and for you know the hollywood likes to portray hunters is cavalier about about the killing. But the the real hunters serious. They're not like that at all. No not at all and they're closer casual about it. Yeah they're closer to a native american view of it almost. Yeah in fact My oldest brother is he loves to hunt. Infact he's at the age of seventy nine row has enrolled in guns missing school. A damn it'd be interesting. yeah And he is very much like that. He has studied a lot of the native american ways. And he's very nick. It doesn't take the killing at lightly at a at all. No no and that's the way that my uncle is to you. Know you can't with a gun in with a bow and so.

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"robert hansen" Discussed on Real Monsters

Real Monsters

04:39 min | 1 year ago

"robert hansen" Discussed on Real Monsters

"Counseling for jesus. So he's really good at fucking with these people in the system. Yeah order this guy is just one huge ignoramus in probably expensive sued. Well you know there there. There was back in the seventies was kind of the start of this whole. You know this whole way of thinking about criminology. I was just reading about it today. Where you know you need to do know criminals. It's not their fault. They need their misunderstood. And all this bullshit. That's really taking root. What's that about the same time where they started the de institutionalization yes movement yes in point. You know institutions. Were not very often good places but a lot of beds should has happened from kicking him out on the streets and unfortunately but man it during during all this his wife's supported him that we know literally yes yes with not in his hobbies but in money yeah financially supported and it's around this time that he begins prowling anchorage for other victims. You know and that's where murder becomes ritual like we were talking about um. Interestingly though this kind of goes against the sadistic fantasies part of that you would very often released women who were complying. He would try to raise visual. Because one of the things you see a fair amount. is these. These assholes started off as rapists but then they realize fuck. I could go to jail for that if they talk so they turned murder just to not get caught for rape. That's very true and also wins. Then they find out that that's something they really like doing well. This is true. Doesn't compliance have a tendency to stymie sadist and just get them more frustrated in brutal it. Yeah a lotta times right. They want they want to struggle. They wanna conflict. They wanna fight. They wanted to see terror because they can't get off without it. You didn't aberration talked about that. You know about the thrill seeing you know the the light go out in those last. And but then the other thing that he started doing others would prolong the torture of them wherever he had them and he would fly them in his plane to a secluded place. Release hunt and kill them and we will be getting more into that very much like a one of our favourite. Yes most dangerous game. Did you happen to see where he admitted to reading. That i didn't see a source that said that hansen. read it. no but you know it was. Who's the it was around though when he was going to school though right because the movie is pretty old movie was nineteen thirty two so it was even before he was born. Yep so i remember. Hell my god. I think goes fourth grade teacher. Read the book to us They just like that and then zodiac to. Yeah you know other thing here. When he would release these women in the wilds in the backcountry he would keep them blindfold. Oh well. that's.

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"robert hansen" Discussed on Real Monsters

Real Monsters

03:02 min | 1 year ago

"robert hansen" Discussed on Real Monsters

"Have garnered some of the reputation that from the rest of the state Because you know. Anchorage was the big city because you could get by boat if they've also the geographical gateway to yes. Yeah that's way. Yeah by the way. There are a lot of towns in alaska. The you cannot drive to have to have a plane or about yes and that would very much factored into anson what he would later do. 'cause it was around that same time that he started escalate now it gets us into the fourth section on him which was trophy hunter. It's thirty eight. Forty four okay. November fifteenth nineteen seventy-one. The first time he attempted to kidnap that we have attempted to kidnap a woman. Susie hefford was her name now. Apparently he just saw her when they were both stopped at a red light. She looked at him in for whatever reason at screwed up little head of his he thought. Oh she's saying come and kidnapping rape pay. Well you know. There's some there was talk of him being schizophrenic so he might have actually heard that even might have. Schizophrenic was only one of them though he was also diagnosed bipolar. Jesus was actually from this case. It's got his court ordered psychiatrist. Dr langdon barely a month. After hep 'red he kidnaps and rapes and eighteen year. Old barbara fields. He takes her to an isolated cabin where he took a girl in quotes one week before and field sexually ended up pressing charges against him even though what he said to her was essentially. Just shut up about what happened. And i won't come after you. Everything will be fine but she decided to press charges when they found a dismembered or discovered a embody near that place where he took her a so. So she's thinking you know what a i got off lucky and be the skies trouble in needs to be off the street so kudos to her for coming forward on that. Oh absolutely it in this next part is probably gonna really piss you off because we kinda did me at his trial for this doctor. Langdon said hanson experienced periods of dissociation. And what does he recommend. Counseling and worker leads.

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03:34 min | 1 year ago

"robert hansen" Discussed on Real Monsters

"Means it's essentially the offender the killer symbolically merging himself with the victim in. It sometimes literally doing that. Because this can be done Rate sodomy cannibalism blood drinking. Although those sorts of things it can also be done. In more latent ways i think probably the best example of it was bt. I was just thinking the same thing because he would do the same a lot of the same things to himself exactly that he did do tim's yup and he answers fuck can't He did man but Yeah they applied this background to understanding hanson's lies and they ended up dividing his life into five different sections so the first one is what they called the overworked slash resentful child age to twelve years old and with that being born nineteen thirty nine estherville iowa which is still in the throes of the deception depression. Yes yes and being here. I mean it's hard. Yeah a up there. It's like maybe. I don't know half an hour from the border with minnesota so okay thanks for that minnesota applied. Yeah the population in two thousand. Ten was only sixty. Three hundred people estherville so but he anson ever since early. Age were often forced to work long hours at the family run. Baker i again domineering. Dutch father You know and this. In addition to being a sickly child being a diminutive guy basically and his mother would quite often acquiesce to the domineering. Father and everything. That would be entailed with that well. Interestingly i think that having that dichotomy in the parents probably brought on the sense of you know the dissatisfaction with his childhood as much as anything i mean if if both parents are one way and you don't have a lot of knowledge of other ways to be it's it's it's a lot easier to accept your circumstances but if you have one parents you know being a hard ass and another parent trying to soften everything up then you go and what the fuck which is the right you know which is the thing i should wires get crossed wires get crossed signals. Get crushed and you do become resentful. Why not why wouldn't you. Oh yeah def no way.

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03:38 min | 1 year ago

"robert hansen" Discussed on Real Monsters

"Try to different times. Apparently he was saying that. I'm going to do something because i was fired. And then Women troubles. I don't know why that got put on the back burner but it apparently did. That's that's that's that's that's not good. And that's all kinds of fishy. It is to be the first time. No but these either to happen but he you know you know you know. Call them up to say the announced that they're going to do it. Yeah that's true. yeah. I was just thinking like the parkland shooter. But that was indirect. They were alerted about him. So yeah good point on that mindy only other one that stood out only other Fourteen year old in alabama confesses to killing his father stepmother and three younger siblings with a gun. Pending adjudication could face adult charges so it is all that i have for this week on the news. Okay so we have. We have a guy who really should. I don't know it's weird to say this. But i should be more famous. I guess more well-known known infamous. Yell something i mean. If you're going to total it by body count he's got He's got a he's got a bigger body count thins. I signed it sam by long way. Yes oh yeah indeed definitely a. He even beats the typical of about twelve victims seat with your run of the mill killer. Yeah and that's on the conservative side to forget we have another whole side to that and we'll get to it so tell us about this guy. Robert christian hansen may hit know him as a hunter or the butcher acre of alaska fame. But he was not born. He was born in one thousand nine hundred eighty nine in estherville iowa to a rather hard-nosed dutch family. His father was apparently a bit of authoritarian and his mother was the exact opposite. I don't know if you could save permissive. But you know she wasn't so hard nosed with hansen has. The dad was also a baker. And you know after that things. Just kind of went downhill for this guy for most of his life. Not that. I feel pity for him but aid. You start things off. He's a sickly child. He's okay he's underdeveloped in the physical arena. And i think that kind of gets into the emotional to down the line. You'll see the same thing where i'm already making. You know. drawn some lines here. From.

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