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Episode 16 Interview with Author/Poet Robert Gonzalez

Art Talk

25:08 min | 5 months ago

Episode 16 Interview with Author/Poet Robert Gonzalez

"Oh thank you for joining us again. And for your continued support of our talk podcast today. We have an author name. Robert gonzales for florida before we get started. We're going to hear a quick sponsor and spent. Please don't go anywhere. We will be right back If you haven't heard about anchor it's the easiest way to make a podcast. Let me explain. it's free. There are creation tools that allow you to record. And edit your podcast right from your phone or computer anchor will distribute podcast for you so it can be heard on spotify apple podcast and many more you can make money from your podcast with no minimum listenership. Everything you need to make a podcast in one place. Download the free anchor app or go to anchor dot. Fm to get started Welcome to art talk. I'm your host and women. And i'm here with my co host erin has great thank you. Good I was like you're upbeat. So what what. What have you been kind of been djing. binge watching stuff on netflix. Really yet live stuff of yours. Well i've been watching. This show called richardson. It was suggested to me by a couple of my friends. And so i i don't usually like period pieces but this is actually pretty cool story about a a an. It's a story about a black queen was known as the invisible queen and it's really fascinating because find out all these all this cool information about this amazing woman and all the stuff that goes on around in the romance and the ladies in waiting all of the rituals that they have had during that time. Let's cool yes pretty cool and it's And the the characters are absolutely gorgeous characters so this is on where do you watch net flicks alka course with everything else all right. So you're watching on netflix. So that's your tv review for today. S that is the end. Some coffee ice cream of course So in my case. I am mentioned it for because obviously Muslim friends and you know my history. The screen actors guild and acting and teaching acting and all that kind of stuff. So i like. I like reviewing films more than tv shows. Although i've talked in the past there used to be good shows on. Tv like fringe and x. Files on all these shows and today's show seeing really kind of empty compared to those shows and they seem shallow or or whatever. Well that's why won't watch anything. Unless it has substance to a critic wellings pretty good. I watched a movie called monari in. It's a film that i thought was going to be all Subtitles it turned out. It was not all subtitles. If you haven't seen it yet definitely watch it. Because it's really well. Made in the sort of crescendo of the film really gets you in all that emotionally and all that kind of stuff so took it fill and then i also wonder woman eighty four. Which is the movie with wonder woman. Wow and it was horrible really i. I'm a big huge fan of all the marvel movies. I've seen while more than once. I watched this movie. And i was like falling asleep literally. I was like oh man to pay off. I didn't care about the story. The character development and they also political messages in there. Which eight with tv shows do that so they were trying to They were trying to. It was like an empowering women thing which i totally am okay with go ahead and empower women obviously I'm sitting here with aaron. And i've been an advocate of hers for years about how her treatment in the film industry and all that but So i'm fine with empowering women. But i didn't want to watch a movie about you know and it's kind of like oratorio or a movie that just puts the slant too much in one direction rather than having a balance. Is that what you're saying. Remember we talked about Some of the new show. So there's a tv show called supergirl and in in in this tv show called supergirl. Everybody in this cast is diverse. And it's always been diverse in the entire show and they've never made any role comments about how diversity is an all of a sudden out of the blue at an episode where one of the main characters was You know the police found him in an alley or something in the scene and they point their guns at him and they start talking to assert win all of a sudden. It's about him being black and they're treating him a certain way because he's black going well. Obviously that's a message that people want to send out there in the world but to take a story and stick it in the middle of his story where it's completely out of place just to send a social messages and link. I think those kind of push. I think it does a disservice to being writing a story. I'd love to hear other people's opinions about this but I think there's a right way and a wrong way to do that. I think they sometimes go. Let's stick this idea of this storm where it doesn't go because we want to make a change in society or some thing like that so But anyway getting back to my movie reviews. Definitely watch minority. It was worth. It wonder woman eighty four. I gave it a d. Plus so i gave him an orient a plus a horse by the way you know everybody used to call me. Linda carter and people will tell you. She looked like linda carter. The original wonder woman slow so she used to get that a lot. But i don't want to spend all our time because we have a guest today We have a guest named robert and robert in robert is a poet. Author actually wrote a book of poetry which looks like it's available on amazon so the title of the book is eagle claws for freedom 'cause and a collection of american poems on draining the swamp hint mask not required so obviously that title kind of implies a few things politically a little bit but the show is not political. It's more about creativity but again anybody. And everybody's welcome on the show. And i am personally an independent voter so i don't get too much into politics. I sit back and watch both sides. Fight it out. That's my my approach but Anyway we should have bob on the line with you with us. They're above i'm here. Hi dan hi erin how you doing. I'm fine thanks. Some over here in florida enjoying cool april day for change nine. Ice april's my birthday month. So so i. I get cake in april so So i think so. Aaron showing our technical stuff folks so In your influence what. What part of. Florida is the northern southern southern part. I'm down enables right now is it. Is it real humid right there. Most of the time it is today's not too bad But most of the time he has you know on the outskirts of the everglades. So it's pretty humid down here. So are you guys having I know this is off topic. But are you guys having any wildlife issues out there like an overabundance of Alligators or anything. Or what's going on. Yeah it was a time when the alligators almost extinct. But then they. They stopped hunting them another overpopulated and then also didn't some people bring in some snakes like the amazon or something and you've got i think they did. Yeah i heard something like that. Yeah i don't know what saddens you walk out your front door. There's a fifty foot anaconda. That won't be good but so so A again. Do you want to go by bob or robert low by robert just so people get more familiar with that. Okay and once again Roberts a book can be found on amazon of so robert and also. Do you have a website associated with this or just. Is it just amazon. I have a website under construction. It's not quite ready at Should be ready in the next week or so. Okay what you can do is When it's ready you can send me a link to it. I have a a website dedicated to this. Podcast called artwork. Podcasts dot com. And what i'll do is put your linked to your new website on there and then we can also put it on our uh comment section in the in the podcast like apple in those places so people can see it that way all right that sounds yes so so my first question is in relation to writing or creating poetry or anything for that matter. What's your earliest memory of creating something that where it really had an impact on you as a result of what you did well. I've always enjoyed riding. In one of my earliest memories was in grade school. I wrote a paper. And i guess the teacher asked us to be creative so the first thing i said was my life started when i was born. The teacher wrote me back Her comment was most lives. Do you know it's funny. It's funny our last guest. And i talked about what we did as kids in in creative ways and now you said your version and it's interesting how similar all of us are with the with the creative brains but you know okay this funny because that's actually something i've said in the past so so i said i was born and then i had relapsed about. I don't know how old you are. But i'm a product fifty s. You know. I was born in the late fifties and so We used to watch all these old war movies on tv. In those days. John wayne was the hero. And and you're watching a lot of world war films and all that kind of thing and there was well. No i still watch hogan's heroes to this day. There you go there you go. That was a hilarious show Colonel klink and all that stuff Yeah so So anyway i was. I was a kid and watching. This movie called bridge over the river. Kwai which is a famous film. If if anybody hasn't seen it just for historical purposes go back and watch the bridge over the river. Quiet very well made film but my last name is so they also asked us to write a creative paper in school. And i was a little kid we had to get up and read it in front of the whole class and so i made up a story about the bridge over the river twice because my last thing was wyman and And how you couldn't get past toll guy on the bridge over the river twice and all this stuff and the teacher was laughing hysterically because it was a little kid. And i just made this thing up and almost died of a heart attack reading in front of all the kids but i got so nervous but But so you so you start at an early age and then and then did you do a lot of writing when you're younger. I've always enjoyed writing. I had a college professor. Tell me one time. I wrote really well i was. I wrote a paper about the civil war and and he really enjoyed it and he pulled me aside and he told me that. I've never taken it really seriously though until this came out of the blue this particular project i Got interested in this campaign that This person The anna lorraine was running in san francisco. And i wrote a couple of poems about it and she liked them so i wrote a couple more than i said. You know what. I have a couple of poems here. Maybe i should just turn these things into a little book. It's kind of like a diary and that's how it came about a really well. That's a good inspiration for because i'll tell you that's the thing that all of his face is we have you know i can't tell you i'm many people have said to me. You need to write a book. Your tell him stories about my past in texas and they start telling me you should really write a book about that you know. His are so much crazy stuff that went on but But you actually did it. You put it together published it and so did you publish it yourself or did you have a publishing company do it or a publishing company. Did it actually risk dot com. If you wanna go there the book bailable there that's That's x. I l. i. R. s. dot com is called x. Libra dot com and the book Eagle claws freedoms. And so then. So then you you. Did you do more writing after you know you mentioned as you start getting older. Whatever did you continue writing or were you writing poetry or did were you doing other creative things. I this came out of nowhere really. I just started writing these poems. And after i had a few of them i just continued turned into this book. And now that. I've done this. I think i want to continue on. Maybe right some other things. I usually like to write about the outdoors sports more than politics. Oh allah what's your. What's your favorite sport to write about Well i love to deep sea fish down here in florida. We do a lot of fishing. And it's my passion really i it. I could do that every single day. You and my youn- might one of my uncles. I have an uncle that He hasn't done it in a while but whenever we used to see him he would he would walk up to me and say. Do you like swordfish. I go fishing go here. And he handed me the huge ice chests with about hundred how much money that would have been worth like fifteen hundred dollars worth of swordfish or something. So he he was up deep sea fishing but so and then Did you ever do any other kind of art type. Things like painting drawing or any of that kind of thing not really not really been more sports inclined than than artistically inclined sports. Did you play baseball. I played college. Baseball and i played basketball in high school. I'd always say i was a point. Guard okay say what are you like. Five seven five Yeah i i grew up watching boxing. You know my dad was one of those old. My dad was one of those old-fashioned guys. You know christmas. You're located to get boxing gloves. And then you're like. Oh he's the one that's going to be teaching association but But that's interesting. So did you do writing about this sorts have you. Is that what you're saying he you've done. Yeah i i've articles about sports like world series games and things like that I'm not too much younger than you. Dan i was born in sixty three. Now okay okay. Yes i remember. The ali frazier fights and all that stuff. Oh yeah that was. That was every see this. Is you telling young people that they don't understand that. When i was a kid we had. Abc nbc and cbs. And we had yeah. We had three stations and public broadcasting. So when you watched mohammed ali. Cassius clay when i first started watching him. His name was cassius. Clay everybody else watching it. You know because there was just so you go to school the next day. And everybody's talking about the fight everybody's talking about like they would show the wizard of oz one time a year. If you missed it you had to wait a whole year to see it again. We asked one. Tv station so everybody school the next day did you see the way around you and So very different time back then but So this this current Let me see. I'm going on time so this current book that you published checking my timer here okay. You run out of time but Can you a how many poems are in this in the in the book eagle. Close this twenty four poems. Some of them shorter than others I think i tried to keep it humorous light. I just thought it was an important time to write on this topic being with all the changes that we're going through right now in america and around the world really Do you have the bath sitting right there with you. Yeah well we don't want to give it away for free. But i think a teaser would be goods. You have a you have a favorite you could share with us cheryl allah this. I'll the the first one in the book is called the end of the florida. Okay and Okay let me get All right this one says here. Let me tell you about the girl who actually. She's from california. So let me let me tell you about the girls who came by california way who goes by the name of the anna relocation. The florida is like a gift of heavenly sent mana. The sound of her laughter is wonder sleet intoxicating. It's time to do some celebrating. Don't ask her to wear a mask if you want your good health to last delta wants to ban her from flight she told them instead they go fly a kite she you. She gives it to the left honest straight. It's this candour that they hate or smiles shine so bright it could only come for a lady from milady. Who's right so here's to a warm welcome to the hurricane the anna lorraine florida will never ever be this interesting. Your your style of poetry though doesn't sound like someone who's and i don't wanna say you're new to it but you were saying you you. This is your first published book. But the i've heard a lot of poetry in my lifetime and there's there's usually the people that are sort of getting into poetry. There's a certain sound to their poetry. That's very a basic but it's It's i call it obvious sort of poetry you know but then there's another style it's more advanced where it's not necessarily rhyming every word but it's a it's a tone and say it. It's it's like. I'm like it's like the words complement each other. In a way. You know what i mean. So had arisen did you. Did you do a lot of studying or did you sit down and say i'm going to just start writing poetry in all. Some of them came quickly right away when i sat down instead. You know i'm just gonna write a poem and they came right away other ones i had to work at. I ride a while. And then i'd step away from then. All of a sudden the word would come to me and it was. That's such a good feeling. It feels like oh. Wow you know. This is like a lightbulb. Dan you know right on well this spring on you say water seeks its own level so if someone writes poetry. He'll tell them you've always been a poet you know because It's it's just are all in you there. You know so. Well listen. So it's it's Robert gonzalez eagle claws for freedom. 'cause collection of american poems on draining the swamp hint mask not required and it's available at amazon dot com and then there's a whole bunch of Letters words after that so. I think it'd be easier for you to just go to amazon and look for the title i would. I would give a link but the link is too long and this is available in the. Us only is it. Nice with amazon. They can order anywhere regardless anywhere. Yeah just the show is We have we've had audience so far ninety five countries according to my stat so Were being heard all over the place. Well listen Question yeah. I just i had a question for you So what What's coming up for you. Do you have anything on the horizon. Something that you're going to be doing in the near future or what are you. I'm thinking about the next that i write might be about some hunting and fishing stories. Okay yeah in fact. Can i give one more teaser. Since we were talking about fishing. Sure i was going to tell you that. I was gonna tell you that some of the best laughter and i i was much younger and my brother still does it. I haven't done it in years but you go out and sit in a hunting blind and you're with a there's other guys out there whatever. And they're drinking all day. Oh after my brothers don't goes out and does that. You know big big game or whatever but the but go ahead you were going to share another one. Yeah recently I don't know if you knew. But congress passed the bill with all kinds of pork in it and they allowed one point five million dollars To study the amount of amber jax that there are in the gulf of mexico also in the back of the book at. There's a picture of me on a boat with an amber. Jack that i caught. Oh no it was one hundred and ten pounds you just reminded me of johnny carson because johnny carson used to find out or have his staff find out what the government was wasting money on so when we were kids johnny carson would say he would have a segment where he would sit down. They just have like five examples. He'd say today your tax dollars in the amount of and this is back then so it was. Let's say it was ninety. Five thousand six hundred dollars or whatever they spend on it he said today your tax dollars were spent on finding finding out why children fall off of tricycles and the audience would be like then you keep going and the most ridiculous things but the government always figured out a way to to say. Here's a way we can get one hundred or two hundred or five hundred grand or whatever will say we're gonna use it for this then they'll go or something else you know but Yeah he used to do that all the time on his show. You call with your phone. No he was sharing a gonna save about sharing an ember. Amtrak ember jack. Yeah yeah he was serious story but anyway we're out of time anyway because again i gotta keep i gotta keep these harder edited longer. No so cool. I learn of poetry. I taw i dig it. I love i like to Right why don't we do this. When you release future books are poems or anything Just let us know. And we'll just have you back on and thinking about doing a an episode with multiple poets on one episode way. I'd love to do that. That would be fun. What good well We're going to wrap it up so Robert do you have any final words for us. Well everybody have a happy easter. And hopefully you'll enjoy the book and We'll talk again soon. I should have said happy served to start today. Today is easter again. This is a recorded program. If you're listening to a we're doing this on easter but erin final words well I saw this anything the edited out. I'll try not to. All i know is what popping through my mind for easter is Somebody sent like a mean to me a picture of two bunny rabbits or chocolate one truck aerobics chocolate rabbit. Also and one of the rabbits. has no tail and it says how his ask bit off chocolate chocolate. Why he says my butt hurts and the other one is years have been eaten. His chocolate years were eaten. And it says what good that's nicer that really brings a spirit of eastern thought. I told her. I saw like five years ago right timeless. Maybe we gotta wrap it up. Okay so you again robert and we'll do this again in the future and For all your listeners. Out there go to artwork. Podcast dot com. Fill out the form if you want to be on the show and we'll be happy to interview and until next time we will see you later

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Lakers Fall To Jazz With Anthony Davis' Return Imminent

Lakers Nation Podcast

57:16 min | 5 months ago

Lakers Fall To Jazz With Anthony Davis' Return Imminent

"Bleeding purple and gold from the Heart of Los Angeles is the lakersnation.com podcast with your host Trevor Lane. Hello Lakers Nation welcome and Trevor Lane here for lakersnation.com. This is the lakersnation.com live postgame show taking your questions and comments coming in from YouTube Facebook and Periscope welcome and obviously not not as fun as the last time we did this show solo show Once Again by the way, but not as fun as the last one when the Lakers beat the Jazz in overtime this times Jazz LED wire-to-wire got most of their guys back. Yes. They're still missing Donovan Mitchell, but they got back Mike Conley Rudy. Gobert that was all that really mattered and then they shot a ridiculous percentage from the field. And so the Jazz led the entire way. This game was not fun was not exciting had no interest in it. This was one of the most boring games of the season in my mind and not just because the Lakers were trailing just because we never really had a job. A competition here and we're going to get into why what exactly happened what can the Lakers do to fix that? And of course the silver lining the light at the end of the tunnel, perhaps Anthony Davis coming back looks like maybe coming back next game against the Dallas Mavericks will talk about that one as well. But again welcome in those of you who just watched that difficult game the Lakers do fall to the Jazz final score 1097, you know, there were some good things that happened in in this one and from the Lakers side of things Kyle kuzma 8413 shooting 17 points to boards three assists one steal had the off it's going a little bit they're fifteen and six from Dennis Schroder plus four steals pretty nice. You'll take that 15 points from k c p 5 of 7 from 3 is the comeback real is this going off staircase. She paid for the month of shooting much much better from 3. And if this is something he can keep up for the next month or so into the playoffs, that would be a big big boost for the Lakers and of course tail and egg. Tucker Oh What a performance from him 24 points for boards to assist two steals 345 shooting from 3 and 8 for thirteen shooting overall really nice night from him. And so that I thought was great to see as well. But the Jazz I mean look when you've got most of your guys back and yes, the Jazz are missing Donovan Mitchell, but they have the rest of their guys all there and in my mind off in Mitchell being out does not equal LeBron James and Anthony Davis being out it isn't even equal one of those guys being out. But when you've got most of your guys there we saw what a big difference that can make just Mike Conley and Rudy gobert being there compared to last game when both teams were missing most of their players and then we saw the Lakers able to Prevail. This was a game where the Lakers just didn't really have the Firepower particularly with how well the Jazz were shooting the basketball on the night. They shoot 57% from the field and 46% from 3. That is ridiculous shot 33 hit 15 of them. Ninety 1% from the dog. The line if you look at the particulars in this game the things that we tend to look at the turnovers the offensive rebounds things of that nature the second chance scoring opportunities. The Lakers were right there just the Jazz that much better the Lakers even outshot them from the free throw line twenty-five free throws for the Lakers to just 11:00 from the Jazz, but you talk could not miss all night long one shot after another after Anna didn't seem to matter how much Lakers contested the shot everything was finding the bottom of the net and that pretty much was the was the ball game again. The Lakers had more offensive rebounds of the Jazz did the Lakers only turn the ball over 10 times, which is great for a Lakers team that struggled with turnovers Utah turned it over 17 times. So if you look at all of those factors the free throw shots, you would think the Lakers would have had a great shot in this game, but Utah just did not miss and so that kept this game Out Of Reach pretty much the entire time for La so frustrating one not not fun to watch. But again, we do have some Silver Linings to take away and we gotta talk about anthrax. Davis has returned. All right, let's get into some of your questions and comments somebody saying I'm seeing a lot of people talk about this Montrezl Harrell need some fuel has no energy at all. Yeah, I'm starting to wonder about what is going on with Montrezl Harrell. This is a game-by-game thing right now 13 minutes tonight for treze, which is not what we're used to seeing from him and he just seems kind of out of sorts not like the Montrezl Harrell we're used to not like the guy we used to seeing right now shooting 48% from the field for the month and the scoring 8.2 points. Yeah, 8.2 points on 48% from the field to give you an idea of how big of a drop off that is Montrezl Harrell last month in the month of March nineteen point five points and 65% from the field who that is a massive drop off also eight boards per game in the month of March month of April. He's only averaging 6.1 but in significantly less minutes 28.9 minutes in March eighteen point nine in April, so that doesn't count for somewhat of the drop-off in scoring but the percentages that is extremely weird and the I test backs up with these stats are telling us that there's something going on there the energy which is not something we would ever think we would complain about with Montrezl Harrell the energy just have been there and I don't know if that's just him being worn down the Lakers do get two days off here. They get tomorrow and Wednesday off before they have to travel to Dallas to play the Mavs, but he is definitely in a bit of a funk here, and I don't know. Exactly what the source of that is if he's just tiring out as this long grind of a season goes on. I know it's actually ten less games than regular season would be but because it's also compressed and that's created a situation where you have more games more frequently than you normally would I should say the games come more often than in a regular season. Maybe that is just starting to wear him down or how much the Lakers had to lean on him. Both LeBron. Anthony Davis were out is starting to wear him down that maybe that's what's going on here. But Montrezl Harrell look for a monstrous month of March when he was great. The month of April has just not been kind to him and that would be something to keep an eye on it. Still the point where when Anthony Davis comes back if this continues to be a thing with Treads and you've got Drummond and you've got installed that you can turn to maybe you thought maybe you just let him set out a couple of games and you rest them up because this is a situation that you can't have heading into the playoffs. You can't have a burnt-out Montrezl Harrell come playoff time. You're going to need his energy your dog. You display on both ends of the floor. So it's going to be important that they get him back out there and at 100% Jesse manrique said does the drum and signing affect res. I don't think so. I don't think I mean Trace was coming off the bench regardless now, we got more minutes before Drummond was here. He got more minutes for sure because they alternative was Marcus all but I don't think it should affect them that much. I mean it shouldn't if anything in the shorter bursts playing shorter minutes. He should have even more energy and yet I feel like we're seeing the least energetic version of them is Errol that we've seen all season long. And again, that's that's not him. Like when we look we take a snapshot of this month and we say is this who he is as a player know his entire career or says, this is not what we're seeing right now. This is not who Montrezl Harrell is so is it an injury is it fatigue? Is it just a rough stretch? I mean players do go through slumps that that happen. Is is that what's happening here? What's the cause of this and then what needs to happen in order to get him back to normal? All right. Somebody said trades just needs rest. So does Keith Markieff Morris has been tremendous for the Laker. She's been great Daniel Stark an lakersnation.com editor and I win over this song in a video earlier today. He's been really good. Really really good tonight. Not not so much but most of the Season most of the Season Markieff Morris has been really good particularly wage and and AD went down he really stepped out tonight Markieff Morris his string. He had hit double-digits in six of his last seven games tonight just four points to boards and twenty-three minutes just wasn't involved in the offense tonight. I think that's just an off night from him more than anything else Mamba mentality from YouTube says, it's just fatigue Fortress. Yeah, I agree. I'm thinking it probably is fatigue for him Terrence P from YouTube Trevor. The nuggets have been winning without Jamal. Do you think it'll still be able to possibly snatch the force-feed? Yes. Yeah, I do there's a couple of things that are coming into play here with them. And I'm glad you brought that up Terrence. So the Nuggets did pick up a win in OT may have even been double OT against the Grizzlies. Yep, double-ot against the Grizzlies the Nuggets picked up another issue. They've won I believe that's now three in a row without Jamal Murray and you're seeing yeah three in a row without Jamal Murray. You are seeing two things come into play here two things are happening right now with the Denver Nuggets. Number one when a star goes down, you usually see this happen. You get a short burst from that team where everybody on the team picks it up everybody else on the squad steps up because they feel young man. That guy's out. I really have to give my all okay, so you get more Focus you get guys who step up but in the long run In the long run that can't last in the long run. They start to feel the loss of that star and the other thing they've got a really soft schedule for these last few games. They played well, okay, they play the Miami Heat they played well thought that was great. But then you had the Rockets and the Grizzlies the Grizzlies being more towards the bottom part of the Western Conference course the Houston Rockets. I mean are they really competing at this point? Probably not. So it's a little bit of those things. It'll be really interesting to see when they play the Trailblazers coming up in a couple of days what happens they've got them on the 21st. So what happens when the Nuggets play the Trail Blazers at some point losing Jamal Murray is going to negatively impact them, but for right now, they're figuring out a way to get the job done. And if you're looking at the MVP race Nikola jokic had a really big night 47 points 15 boards eight assists one block wot. Tremendously efficient scoring. Yeah, he's been he's been excellent. But I do still think the Lakers can get back in there, especially when a d comes back which looks like probably going to be Thursday. I'm excited. I'm excited about that. Depart from YouTube. Where does Wes Matthews fit in come playoff time? well It might be on the bench. Hate to say it. But look at this point the Lakers their rotation just like every team their rotation is going to change come playoff time. It's going to get trimmed down. You're probably looking at Atmos a nine-man rotation. So let's count em off. Okay, if you were to put together a nine-man rotation and Frank Vogel just series to series and he sees what works and what doesn't on but if you were to create a nine-man rotation with this Lakers roster LeBron Anthony Davis, of course, right Andre Drummond's going to be in there. He's you're starting center Kentavious Caldwell-Pope Dennis Schroder, you're starting five, right? So they're absolutely part of it after that. We're lucky. Alex Caruso. I'm playing him ahead of Wesley Matthews for sure Talen Horton Tucker. I'm playing him ahead of Wesley Matthews, and we need to talk about tht a little bit Montrezl Harrell, assuming assuming that he continues to play at his normal level and not this diminished level that we've seen it. I think he's got to get minutes there before him and then Markieff Morris And I haven't even mentioned Kyle kuzma yet. That's ten guys that I just named if it's a nine-man rotation one of those guys I named isn't even part of the rotation. I'm a ten. Where do you put them in where does Wes Matthews get get minutes? And I know he's played fairly consistent minutes off of the bench. But thirteen tonight for the Lakers compared to 17 for Caruso. 28,000 Longhorn in Tucker. Most likely West Matthews is competing with THD and Caruso and I feel like both of those guys are clearly ahead of him and it's not close clearly ahead of him in banking order for minutes. I think it's a very real possibility especially when you've got a three point shooter right there as well and Ben McLemore to compete with now, we don't see a whole lot of West Matthews come playoff time pains me to say it cuz once a veteran I was really excited about him coming in. I thought man this guy that works he could be Danny Green level production at one fifth of the cost. That was that was the selling point to bring in a guy like West Matthews, but it just seemed quite hasn't really clicked. Oh for two tonight one board one turnover. That's it in 13 minutes just hasn't worked out. So that's that's what could be happening. Somebody said maybe experienced will be in his favor. Yeah, that that's that's certainly something considered a complaint off time. Maybe Frank Vogel says look, he's the veteran and a crunch-time situation. I know he's in big spots before we can turn to him. Maybe that that's the only selling point though. It's not like you can look at West Matthews right now and say, oh, well this guy if I need a 3, this is the guy that I'm putting a brief old was not saying that if I need to stop this is the guy I'm putting in in West Matthews is not a bad Defender, but we've also seen him get burned by a lot of players. So is he really that locked down defending this point? I don't think so. Again, maybe at some point you look at him and say he's got the experience. I'm going to give him a few minutes over say Talen horton-tucker right now, but tht is getting better and better and better and to me that only makes sense that huge T is in front of West Matthews in the pecking order, especially after what we saw tonight Jaber 35 with a great Comet here. It's something that I was thinking about during this game. We could have used Mark tonight. Yeah, so I saw some some shatter going on on Twitter suggesting the Marcus all might still be kind of bugged by an injury. And if that's the case hundred percent I get it. No way. I would put him out there either. Care what this game looks like. I don't care how bad it looks or how bad it looks like the Lakers need to stretch five on the floor to pull gaubert away from the basket if Gasol's dinged up you sit them, okay. I think there's also the possibility that Frank Vogel look to this. And thought you know, I could go small and I could put a stretch five out there to make Utah just me. I could run Markieff Morris at the center spot and make Utah deal with that and pull going away from the basket. That way I could run Marcus all out there and stretch the floor that way. If it was indeed good to go. But do I really want to show them that right now if I think we're going to see this team in the playoffs and that's a possibility. Do I really want them to see that at this point how we contact this? Probably not. So I think it could be a little bit of both those things where it's always a little bit dinged up, but I think you're absolutely on the money in suggesting Marcus all because it seemed like it was screaming for him back Drummond is a gobert style player. I'm not saying they're the same player. They're not saying in terms of being a non three point shooting big man does most of the work around the basket gobert is better than drumming though. I'm losing that battle. You lost that battle battle constantly on both ends of the floor. You were losing that battle the way you can flip that and maybe not necessarily win the battle but at least change it up a little bit long as you put in a big that's going to pull them away from the from the from the paint and then you can mix it up and kind of Change the matchup right Shuffle the deck and then things might look a little bit different. But this one Vogel didn't go that route. I do expect come playoff time. The Lakers will do what they can to pull away from the basket. Even juice from Facebook says stop and shrimp Vogel never thinks that way. He absolutely thinks that way. He proved it in the playoffs last year. He did that. He did that against we saw him. Do it against Portland. We saw him do that against Houston. We saw them him do that job in Miami and Game 6 of the NBA finals going small using a d at the five. He absolutely will go small if that's what the situation calls for and that's what I like about. This Lakers roster is it's so flexible. It's a versatile. It's giving Vogel and the coaching staff the ability to pull a number of different styles. If you want to play Big you can play Baby want to play small that's fine if you want shooting on the floor. Well, okay. The shooting is a sore spot this season, but if you could in theory want to have Shooters on the floor you can you can kind of do that as well. Josh. From YouTube said what is tht currently worth? So what is GHz worth in terms of next year his contract? It's hard to say there's a lot of teams out there with cap space and one of them could throw him an offer. But remember the Lakers assuming they make them restricted free agents. They well, we'll have a chance to match them and the most another team can offer because of the Gilbert Arenas provision is a deal starting at right around nine or ten million right in that range depending on where all the cat figures come in. But so right around nine or ten million, so that's the motion. They can't offer more than that. They can't they're not allowed by NBA rules. And so the Lakers will have the opportunity to match that so that's worst case scenario. If you're the Lakers is a team comes in offers them a deal does the first two years about nine or ten million right in that range somewhere and then balloons and we'll go up to like twenty Twenty-One ish million for the year 3 year 3 and year for the deal we've seen contracts with that back-loaded contracts in order to try to convince the incumbent team to not re-sign their player or did not match. We've seen that happen in the NBA before but I think the Lakers are pretty sold on Talen Horton Tucker and tonight wage. Really good indicator of why they are because we saw him really get going you could argue. He was the best liquor tonight for sure. Renato seguchi base from Facebook coming in from Brazil welcome in from Brazil. France rotation is unstable. One game works the other not home when it doesn't work. We suffered too many points. Well, yeah, of course, it's unstable right now. They're having players come in and out on a game-to-game basis in terms of injury. It's hard to really build an inconsistency that way so yeah, there's going to be instability. I think if there is one criticism of Frank Vogel is that he doesn't make enough in game changes. You don't see a lot of that you see game-to-game changes and we get we saw that in the playoffs last year a team would come in and beat them game won. The Blazers did it the Rockets did it and then vocal would make the adjustments rather than adjusting in-game, he would adjust after that first game and then next thing, you know, the Lakers were off and running so he makes adjustments, but sometimes it's not in game and when you're in the regular season, that's a challenge because you really only get one game maybe two against an opponent, but yep. The same time I think the injuries have really taken their toll. It's been really tough for this team develop to develop chemistry because they're they're starting lineup is constantly changing. Swish man from YouTube and the interesting point McKinney needs to play over Matthews West doesn't rebound Cannon open threes turns the ball over and play subpar defense. Why can't Vogel defense see this? I mean, so you'll look I'm with you I'm with you I was on about six weeks ago. I was on the McKinney four minutes train. MC minutes, we need McKinney minutes OverWatch Matthews. I said before we went into the trade deadline McKinney should have taken those minutes because West Matthews was a nightmare was not often. Well at all and McKinney was shown flashes McKinney's got a few things you can do. Well, he's a decent size. He can occasionally shoot threes and he's pretty good on the offensive glass. Those are his strengths just about it West Matthews is a veteran. I think he is over all the better Defender the McKinney, but I think you can make an argument that make any has been better than Wes Matthews. But again was Matthew says had the worst season he's out in a while hasn't been good at some point. We've been hoping and hoping and hoping that things would turn around that he would revert back a guy that he's been in the past and we just haven't seen it. So the longer this goes on the more we can just say well, all right, he's thirty-four maybe this was it maybe this was the year that he really fell off. Remember when Gary Payton became a Laker I know that was a long time ago. So kids some of you might not remember but when Gary Payton became a Laker in 2004, we thought oh, man, okay GP wage glove he's coming in. This is going to be amazing and wait, who's that guy? Gary Payton in that offseason between being a at the time. He was a Milwaukee Bucks cuz it got swapped out for Ray Allen. The season we saw him with the Milwaukee Bucks was still Put on numbers came to the Lakers game. Oh, he's not that guy anymore Father Time came in and hit him pretty quickly. Sometimes that happens with players, and I wonder if that's just what we're seeing with Wes Matthews. Christian Mercado from YouTube. Can you talk to Frank Vogel? Just give tht full minutes already? We could had one. Yes. Let me call up Frank Vogel. Some people think the Frank Vogel is my dad bought some people think he's my brother apparently based on the comments that I've seen in the chat recent weeks. Okay, I'll take it but no, I'm not related Frank Vogel. I'm not just going to text him and say hey Frank do this. No, but I do think the tht is getting better and better and better and earning himself more minutes and I'll tell you what, I really like I'm seeing more confidence in his three-point shooting. It doesn't always equal results. But tonight 345 fact, let me see where he's at on the month. He shooting the three with I don't know exactly how to say it. He's only 30,000 for the month, but he was 15% the previous month. So this is actually a step up. It feels like he's shooting that shot to make it now. He's shooting the three to make it and not shooting it not to miss and there is a difference we've talked about it a lot on this show. It seems like you're shooting that shot with more confidence and that makes all the world of a difference to him. He's already so good at getting to the basket that have suddenly teams have to defend him behind the three-point line. Oh, that's just going to open things up in the page that much more now. This is a tiny sample sized. So I'm not saying everything's great. Now James tank and shoot threes know and even again, he he's shooting better and he's only a 32% that's not great teams a live with that team's will live without eating 32% from 3. But if he can continue to improve their that is a major progression in his game and it might not happen. This year could be next year maybe year after takes time. But if he can get better and better at the 3 and add that to everything else that he's already good at and he's averaging what he's averaging almost two two steals per game right now two steals per game. And this is for all intents and purposes. This is his rookie season. He basically did he appear to what six games last year. This is his NBA rookie season. He played most of his time in the G League last season. He's good. He's real good and he's given us flashes of why the Lakers said no, we're going to make tht the sticking point. We're not going to deal him for Kyle Lowry cuz we believe in him. AJ crusted Trevor, can we change our offensive schemes? It's awful. I don't know if you're going to change your now because Anthony Davis come back and then you're going to get him LeBron James back so long. I don't know that you changed all the schemes up right. Now. Remember this team was put together to play alongside LeBron to play alongside Anthony Davis. So on one hand, yes, you would like to see the offense look better no question month, but you also have to compliment them overall for their defense for how well they've played their despite missing those guys who make a major impact on that end of the floor. They do LeBron is considered to be the voice of the defense. He's the guy that tells everybody where to be so they're on the same page Anthony Davis the humidor racer a defensive player of the year candidate last season, you're missing both those guys and yet their defense has stayed at a high level. So all the credit in the world for that long. Yes, the offenses look bad, but this team relies on the Brandon 84 offense, so it's not a surprise. the audacity from YouTube will a d play next game sure sounds like it sounds that way. Now nothing is set in stone right now. The Lakers have taken the approach of okay, he's good to go hundred percent can go and practice. We're going to get him going to onto three-on-three and then five-on-five off before we roll them out there. They opted not to play him tonight, even though he's cleared to play the opted not to play him tonight. Why because they have a very rare thing happening tomorrow and the next day and that is two days off you want to take advantage of that use both days to get them back out on the practice floor. Let him get his legs under him a little bit and then he's going to be on a minutes restriction Thursday in Dallas if things don't go well off tomorrow and Wednesday something happens. He's just not feeling it legs. Don't feel good. Something like that. Maybe he doesn't play but right now the way things are progressing. I would say he plays on Thursday in Dallas. That's that's what I think is most likely but again, I just a caution everybody things can change between now and then depending on how things go and practice but right now it looks like he's on track to page Thursday with a minutes restriction. Yeah, fifteen minutes. I know we're not going to see him play a full game. We're not you're not going to see him play a full like he's not going to go play 35 minutes his first game back. It'll probably be 15 minutes. But I'll take it. We have not seen Anthony Davis on the basketball floor since February 14th, February 14th. I'll take whatever we can get. Tripped on from YouTube in the Super Chat. So tht is got that it Factor. You can't teach clutch DNA. Also clutch representation klutch sports, but yes, I do think the THC has something special and it's not just as skill set. I think it's his attitude his demeanor. I think all that matters. I think the language got a good one here. It might take a little bit of time and we might have to be a little bit patient with him because he is still so young as twenty years old, but I do think he's a real good one. All right, guys, let's get into the next man up Awards since I think we're kind of talking about him. Anyway, here we go. And get it off. All right, next man. Who was it that stepped up the most tonight? What we've got a number of candidates from this game. No, it's definitely not Montrezl Harrell. I hope tries gets things figured out quick off. The Lakers can figure out what's going on there with him, but you've got a number of guys, you've got, you know, Kyle kuzma drop at 17 points on 8013 shooting. Super-efficient. They're fifteen six and four for Dennis Schroder 6S for steals off rebounds as well. Kcp shot the ball while 15 points, but know if you watch this game, you know, you know, there is one answer to this question and it is clear. It is clear off its Talen horton-tucker ght next-man-up 8 for thirteen shooting three of five from three five of seven from the free throw line is actually 82% free throw shooter right now for Boardwalk assist two steals 24 points on the night gotta love that Talen Horton Tucker was the best Laker on the floor. He was he was the best Laker tonight wage. You very much deserves this his ability to get in the paint was phenomenal. I liked his decision-making when he got there as well. Frank Vogel has been praising him lately for being more under control in the paint. I like the the quick stop into a turnaround. It's a very LeBron s move wonder where he picked up that from the turnaround jumper he's able to knock that in made some really nice plays all game long. And of course, it's always fun to watch because his arms are ridiculous 6 4 with a 7-1 wingspan. They just keep going and going and going and so he makes them great place every single game on both ends the floor nice night for him. So I think he is the clear answer for next man up. This is an interesting stat of this is true. I don't I don't I haven't looked at this myself, but Lamar from YouTube says THD has more Steals and assists than kuzma this season unless minutes played. I can see that I can certainly see that I can see that being being the case and it would make some sense to me. Somebody mentioning Alex Caruso was bad. I mean like three points to boards 143 from 3 and 1 for for shooting overall. Yeah, I mean two rebounds. It was just kind of a blah day performance from Caruso, but Caruso's a guy who feeds off of good players. He doesn't do very well when he's expected to do a lot. He's more the guy that hey everybody's looking at LeBron, I'm going to pick the right moment to cut to the basket or defensively everybody's in sync and I'm going to be that guy that puts myself in the right spot every single time and I'm going to cut off passing lanes and I'm going to get some Steals and things like that, but I'm just going to do the dirty work. That's Alex Caruso Caruso is valued goes up when he's around Stars when he's that guy he can be that kind of glue guy with star players from self where he's expected to be one of the better players on the floor. He's not nearly as effective. So and I'm not using that say, oh, well, you know that that explains his performance now are you didn't have a great game but I do think this isn't the ideal situation for Caruso as well. Whereas the guy like tht the stars, you know, you can give him the ball and say, okay go do your thing and he can create a nicer situations and he can score the basketball for you and he can find people with this passing. So it's very different in terms of what happens when the stars go out to th T's game vs. Caruso's game. Jaybird asking any Twitter updates. I don't know guys. It's a solo show tonight. So I haven't been looking a lot on Twitter, but I can take a quick peek here and double check. It's you we've got going on. Andre Drummond said that Andre Drummond said Rudy gobert is presidents did not affect his performance. I disagree Andre. I like the bravado and all that but I disagree. He said it didn't according to our own Ryan Ward from lakersnation.com. He said it didn't I missed shots. That's not really boils down to obviously he's a great player and he's a great defensive player as well too. He's able to offer people people shots including mine. Kind of contradicts himself. He says Rudy gobert is presidents did not affect his performance, but Rudy gobert altered his shots. So he didn't affect his performance, but he did it was pretty clear drum and struggled against gobert the size. The length of gobert was giving him some issues. And again, that's where maybe come playoff time you turn to a market soul will go bear away from the basket. Might be an option for the Lakers to go to. And Andre Drummond is very excited to see what he will look like when Anthony Davis when he gets back aren't we all 82, aren't we all I can't wait to see a D Squared off Davis Andre Drummond side-by-side that is a lot of athleticism that is a lot of rebounding that could be devastating and then when you add LeBron to that could be very very good. Chris color from from YouTube. When will a d return next game I Believe YouTube Watcher. Where is Chris Masters? Chris will also be back next game. He's he's making his return when they D makes his return. I remember Chris is on East Coast time right now. So some of these later start times are like really late for him. And so that can that can be tough. I mean where he's at right now. It's what 1 a.m. At this point home. So that's that's pretty difficult for him to make that but he is going to be back for Thursday and we're even talking about if that does end up being Anthony Davis's returned doing another watch party over on hot mic for that one. That would be a lot of fun. Hopefully you guys come join us for that. If that ends up being a tease return will probably do that on Thursday. Nourish me on from Facebook if the Lakers keep losing. Will they be out of the playoffs? Well, I guess if they kept losing through the play-offs, but otherwise, no, they're not looking like they're dropping out of playoffs anytime soon. As of right now. They are 2 and 1/2 games now behind the Denver Nuggets because Denver's managed to keep winning without Jamal Murray. There are two games up on the Portland Trail Blazers right now for the 6 seed. They would have to fall all the way to the 7th seed to even be in the play in tournament and they are four games up on the Dallas Mavericks at this point. Now they do play their next games against the Mavs so that could be a big swing there. But if the Lakers are able to get a couple of wins, I would say if the Lakers beat the Mavs twice, they beat him two in a row, then that just about would eliminate the possibility of them dropping to the 7th seat and into the plan tournament. The Blazers could conceivably still catch the Lakers now the Lakers lose to in a row to the Mavs, then you can have some issues. Then you might have some problems there where the Mavs and the Lakers would suddenly be much much closer in the standings. And and then you would also have the Blazers right there on the heels of the Lakers. So that's something to consider a wage. Hopefully they get those wins because that would give them a lot of breathing room if they're able to beat the Mavs on Thursday and then again on Saturday. Keshaun from YouTube. What was the real reason? We lost tonight. I don't know and you know, do you think that I'm like withholding the truth? Like there was some some secret conspiracy that the Lakers lost because they didn't do exactly fifty-two Jumping Jacks in that game or something like that and that that causes them to lose know. There's the real reason the Jazz just shot extremely. Well, I thought the Lakers defense at times looked a little bit lethargic and moments, But sometimes that can happen when you're selling out you're doing everything you need defensively get it hand up in their face and they're still hitting shots that gets frustrating as the game goes on. But so I do feel like maybe maybe you could get that game and say the Lakers approached. It may be in the back of their minds like well, we already got one we got the first one against the Jazz. That's all we really needed. We're kind of playing with house money right now and we didn't quite the level of energy. But again the Jazz kept hitting shot after shot after shot that can be very deflating as well. But yeah, I think that's that's really what it comes down to the Jazz shot ridiculously well from the field and from the dead. What was it? Tripped on when the Super Chat thank you said with the playoffs around the corner. When do you explain Vogel to start cutting the rotation and who do you expect to be out? I think we'll see Vogel start cutting the rotation down maybe the last few games of the regular season and if they're locked into a spot as soon as they're locked in like if they are locked in. Okay, where the 5 Seed where the four-seat whatever I would expect to see some guys coming out some guys like LeBron Anthony Davis just not play because they're going to want to preserve those guys for the playoffs. So you're going to want to give them a little bit of a boost now once those guys get back your stars get back and then once you're locked into a seed then you taper them off because you want to preserve them from their build up as much chemistry as you can in a short amount of time and then Call it quits for a bit. So I wouldn't expect to see a really cut down until playoff time though. I think that's when it's really going to happen. Maybe we see a close game. Like let me look at the schedule. A close game that we feel like the Lakers really need to win. Like if they really need like we saw last game Frank Vogel trimmed his rotation a bit because he saw an opportunity to win that game against the Jazz. So I would say these games against the mabs will see that if the Lakers have an opportunity to win but obviously LeBron isn't back my guess for LeBron's return and this is all that is maybe maybe the very beginning of the month could be May 2nd, maybe April 30th if we're lucky maybe LeBron's back by then and if that's the case of the Lakers are in a close game, like let's say Monday May 3rd, the Lakers take on the Denver Nuggets game and if the Lakers have a chance to jump up to the force-feed if they're able to pick up a few wins between now and then they're ready to jump up to the 4 seed and they need to get that game. I can see Frank Vogel approaching that game off mentality and cutting down his rotation there. But otherwise, I don't think we're going to see full playoff mode until the actual playoffs. Man looking at the schedule. It's amazing how few games are left right now to when we think we still are a little ways out from LeBron returning but there's what thirteen fourteen games left fourteen games left till the playoffs coming up fast coming up real fast. Johnny hi from Facebook Trevor Lane. You're a great host and great podcast. Thank you. I truly appreciate that. Did you see how Dennis landed on his back again and next events? He drove he do for the ball and the steel, I believe he's selling himself because I don't think Dennis. Well, I'm starters position. No, I think he's got the starting job think he's got that but I think it was just a hustle. He's played through a lot in play through this back issue. Remember, he initially hurt that against the nuts when Blake Griffin slammed into him. That's how we initially hurt his back and this is something that's still lingering and then he had the foot infection and home anyways to play through it because you recognize is that the team needs him out there. They don't beat the Jazz last game if Dennis router is not out there on the floor. So I applaud his toughness. I applaud his ability to fight through these these things these injuries. Hopefully, it doesn't hurt him in the long run. But right now Dennis Shooters doing whatever you can to make sure that he keeps his team afloat. And so all the credit in the world to him. All right, guys, I need to show you guys a little commercial. So if you are watching whether you're on YouTube Facebook Periscope doesn't matter look in the description, I put a link to our latest lakersnation.com contest which is free to enter and you can win some very cool lakersnation.com aren't so I'm going to give you a quick little little explaining commercial about it off with an amazing hosts for it. You may play that and then we're going to do the Master Lock of the nights start thinking who do you want to see put in the Master Lock? 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I like them so I get them. All right. Here we go. Let's get into the Master Lock of the night. Let's do it. Thursday after 1. All right everybody the Master Lock of the night. But anybody new who has not been on this show before it doesn't know what the master of luck is Chris the Masterpiece Masters who shows up on the show all the time. It's finishing moving. The wrestling ring is the master box. We always talk about somebody who annoyed us something that annoyed is from the game that we would want to see put in the Master Lock. I like to give the Master Lock two other teams. Do not the Lakers long as we give to the refs. But this one I think has to go to a Laker tonight. Unfortunately again, it pains me to do this. I'm very much not for cruelty against animals. I hate it but tonight's Master Lock skin put on a big penguin named Andre Andre Drummond a three or four twelve shooting 2 or 5 at the free throw line eight boards for says two steals five fouls two turnovers eight points a -15 in plus-minus certainly did not look like yourself didn't look like the guy that we saw last game which I mean hey to be fair to last game the Jazz did not have Rudy gobert do not have Derrick Favors. So he very clearly had an advantage in there, but we just did see him able to really hold him at all against gobert. He really got outplayed tonight and that's not what you want to see. That's the point where you kind of say. Okay. Do we need to just pull gaubert away from the basket go counter to what he brings by putting on a floor steamer instead of trying to go traditional Center versus traditional center with Andre Drummond. So certainly not his best performance tonight. Hopefully, we will see better ones in the future dead. Alex questions penguin. Yeah, if you didn't know Andre Drummond's nickname is big penguin. That's his nickname. What I've heard is that it's he just said one time that he really likes penguins. And so that just became his nickname. I think if you watch his movements he kinda is penguin task with the way he moved so I kind of get that to age. But Andre Drummond does get the master lock tonight. Again. He had a great game last game. Hopefully, we'll see more of that in the future. Hopefully, we'll see more of that against the Dallas Mavericks. Keyshawn said what time is it for you? It's about 10:15 here. I'm on Pacific Time. His Drummond's determines tow hurting him. I don't know. I don't know if it was a tow issue. Remember this dude is playing on nine toenails. Yeah, it can't be easy. Justin Salinas from YouTube Trevor do you feel trust would be back to himself when he comes back? I sure hope so. I sure hope that he will because like I said this last last couple of weeks you just have not looked like himself and he gotta hope that he's able to figure it out that he's able to get you to the rest of that he needs or what, you know, maybe he's just kind of out of sorts which run it in there. Whatever is happening is because they're going to need them. They're going to need the best version of Montrezl Harrell that is not we've seen in the last few weeks. He's looked like a shell of himself just hasn't had the energy hasn't been quite as aggressive. He's just looked out of sorts a liquid lost at times out there. It's strange after he was so so good. It was to the point where we were just about naming the next man up toward the Montrezl Harrell award because he was getting it every single night because he was just that good but he's definitely dropped off this month. Hopefully he's able to fix that. AJ Franklin Drummond was slow tonight. They should call him Turtle. He was kind of slow. That's fair. Although I don't think paying I mean, I guess when penguins are penguins are sliding right then they're pretty quick in the water. They're pretty fast. But otherwise, they just kind of model. I don't think penguins are all that quick Benedict messing gay from YouTube. What do you think of a potential sign-and-trade for lawns? Oh, that would be really tough. That would be really tough to pull off. The Lakers don't have cap space to spend in a sign-and-trade situation. And if you were to send out contracts, there's not offer contracts on the books just send out unless you want to like part with Kyle kuzma or something or do a double sign-and-trade was shrewder. And that would be tough that would be logistically it's difficult to do but I guess they could try to pull it off it would trigger a hard cap, but the Lakers probably will trigger one. Anyway using their big exception like I wouldn't hate it if Dennis Schroder says I'm out. I'm leaving and he decides he wants to go New Orleans and Lonzo says I'll go back to LA. I wouldn't hate that the challenges you're going to have to pay Lonzo which operating shorter twenty 1 million a year. That's what he's going to want. If the Pelicans are going to trade Lonzo. It's because they don't think he's worth the money that he's dead ask for that's why they were looking to trade him at the trade deadline not because they hate him not to because they think he's a terrible player who hasn't been playing. Well this season. They don't think he's playing well enough to be worth that much money. So you're going to have to give him a big deal not like you're getting Lonzo to come in for five million or something like that. But all that being said if that was out there and I think it's very unlikely, but if that was out there sure why not. I would not hate that. Katie Gray from YouTube said will there be enough games for LeBron to come back and get chemistry with the with the team? That's really the question right when there's fourteen games to come back and LeBrons going to miss minimum five more I would think we're probably looking at a minimum five more games missed for LeBron James might be more than that. That means you're talking what nine games tops, maybe seven that really doesn't give you a lot of time to build that chemistry up with the team, especially with guys like Andre Drummond. You would like to see him get a full season under his belt, which Roman in there Ben McLemore kind of get we're getting re accustomed with the team because the team is now learned how to play without LeBron or as a sort of learning how to play without LeBron and now they have to go and reintegrate him. Same thing with Anthony Davis that will be a challenge and that's one of the reasons why I really want to see the Lakers stay out of the play and tournament Thursday. It's not it's not just hey, I don't want them to have to worry about the play in tournament. It's also I want them to have a week off if they stay out of the play and tournament. They essentially get a week off between the end of the season and the start of the playoffs because of the plan tournament has to run there and I think that's going to help the Lakers more than anything a week to just practice just bring in Lebron Anthony Davis go a hundred percent in practice and get everybody on the same thing. Age and again, it's not enough. It's not enough. It's just not that's not enough time. But a week would certainly help a lot more than not having that week would so long. It's a concern. It's definitely a concern but there's no other options at this point at this point. You would rather have a hundred percent healthy LeBron than an extra game or two of building chemistry. We'll see if they can do it. It's going to be tough, but they're going to have to build chemistry as quickly as they can. Carol's are borrowed from Facebook's that I'm sure the team will play so much better and be relieved when LeBron comes back. Absolutely. Absolutely because I think we'll Brown was the favorite to win the MVP before he went down. He's been great and it'll be good again. Brian Harris from Facebook Lonzo would unlock kuzma. Maybe maybe go back to that magical summer league when the Lakers were severly Champs few years ago. Maybe that's what he needed. All right, guys, we're going to do. We're going to do one more here and then we will call it an evening. In general are do you really think the Lakers will lands? Oh, no, I would I don't mean to put that out there like saying. Oh, there's this really good. I would say it's very very unlikely. I'm just saying if the unlikely occurred and that happen. I would not be opposed I'd be okay with that. All right. That was a short one. So let me do let me do one more and then we'll call it. Somebody said LeBron will be able to throw a post-entry passes. Yes. That's something the Lakers have struggled with lately there post entry passes. So he's asking what the brand of my watch is. It's it's an Apple watch. I miss watching a D & LeBron we all do we all do it's been two months of no Anthony Davis been rough. LJ cares to Trevor. Where's your partner? Why are you alone now? It was just scheduling. That's it. Just scheduling. That's the way it went. So Chris it was really really late where he's at. So he wasn't able to come on down and Ron and and that brought over both on other things. I may have stayed up Gary up again and get him back on get him back into our rotation here. But yeah, just a scheduling thing. All right last one here. Dougie to West from YouTube Trevor, who do you think we are facing out in the east in the finals? The Nets will be healthier not. Okay. So let's assume that the Lakers. Oh, I need to get into this one from Robert Gonzales any advice for me teaching? Yes. I will get to that one man. I can give you some advice on that. So coming out of the East I'm going to the Nets don't make it. I think their defense is going to be a problem comply off time. Now, they've got so much offensive Firepower. Maybe they still get there anyway. I'm going to say the team that comes out of the East is going to be the Milwaukee Bucks. There's a strange feeling I have and I haven't dug into stats or have any reason to suggest that other than just feel like their experience last season is going to make sure that's what I meant Robert Gonzalez any advice for you teaching you're starting teaching students tomorrow. I mean, that's a weird time of the year to start. To start teaching when we're in April. I don't know maybe you're going back into the classroom at that point or what's going on there, but man have a lesson plan ready and get ready to ship it out. That's the biggest thing. The biggest thing about teaching is flexibility be able to be flexible with your lesson plans to be able to be flexible with your activities in your class know if you're teaching multiple classes in the same day, you can teach the same thing the same lesson plan and get completely different results from it. So you have to be able to be flexible and adjust to your students and that's again. Sorry going back to my teaching career. They're guys but with Robert Gonzales, that's that's the biggest thing being able to think on your feet be flexible be able to go with the flow and understand that nothing works exactly like you hope it will thing is wrench gets thrown into things all of the time. That's what makes it interesting but you gotta be able to think on your feet and be flexible with it. All right guys. Kevin Santiago, no wonder Trevor is so patient with chat trolls. He was a teacher. I wasn't just a teacher. I taught eighth-grade. That was what I taught thirteen and fourteen year olds. Yeah off and have just a little bit of patience with that one also coached. I taught history I coach basketball I coach soccer coach track a coach volleyball coach everything a lot of fun. But now I get to come here and talk Lakers basketball all the time, which is also pretty amazing. All right guys. Okay, Robert Gonzales song will do one more thing here. We're teaching students in my school in person. I was thinking a Lakers related activity for five minutes. Yeah. Yeah, very very easy when you're doing to log in a great basketball into what you're doing. I used to have my kids for like a warm effectivity. We would do you calculate percentages things like that? I would also use that because I taught history I would years. As a way to to reference history, so we would look at we would bring up something like okay, you know on this day in history Magic Johnson dropped, you know, Thirty-One points or something like that and well Magics doing that the 1980s and the the NBA is experiencing this growth. This was also happening in the country. This was happening and this was happening and back then watching a game was on a delay. Even for the NBA Finals was on tape delay. You guys don't even know what tape delay is you couldn't just record it on your DVR or anything like that. We've talked about changes in technology. There's all sorts of different things that you can use Sports to springboard into and that was something that would frequent frequently do in my lessons. All right, guys, let's call it right there. I appreciate all of you coming in Robert Gonzales, man. I know you're in our chats all the time best of luck tomorrow with your students. Hopefully everything goes well off else. 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Lakers Defeat Warriors In Blowout, Damian Jones Impresses In Debut

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Lakers Defeat Warriors In Blowout, Damian Jones Impresses In Debut

"Bleeding purple and gold from the Heart of Los Angeles. Yes is the lakersnation.com podcast with your oath Trevor Lane. Hello Lakers Nation welcome and Lakers Nation live postgame show. I'm traveling from lakersnation.com and your Lakers just blew out the Golden State Warriors that that's what we've been waiting for. Gosh that felt so good. It feels like it's been so long since we've seen the Lakers with nearly a wire-to-wire win. They trailed fall of 13 seconds off this game. Just dominated the Warriors the entire game wasn't even questioned LeBron James got to rest more in this game than any game. All season long was so great to see a dominant Lakers performance given what we saw with the four-game losing streak how poorly they had been playing and even the weeks before that to get to see them come out perform like this was so long. Refreshing and is exactly what Lakers Nation needed joining me tonight Chris the Masterpiece Masters guys. We're going to be giving away from lakersnation.com license plate frames as well. So far off your comments your questions back in in the Lakers Nation chat right now over on YouTube on Facebook and on Periscope. I know I'm sure there's going to be a lot of comments about Damian Jones new Laker who made his debut Chris. How are you doing man? Are you feeling as good as I am right now? Trevor you kidding me. I feel like all is right in the world again. I mean the Lakers have won the last two they looked amazing tonight. I got my new Lakers hoodie home and and we're here doing our show. I mean, it's just tonight was great. You know what? I mean? Like just a great performance for getting to end. I mean, there's a lot to talk about. I'm sure what sighted man they just they look great and you know since dentist Reuters down back. Wow, the shooter effect is in full effect, man, and I'm not saying it was all dentist router. But damn the energy of this team since he's come back. It's like they're back to life and just loved what I saw like, let's say he definitely gave him the shot in the arm that that they needed 12 points for shooter threat get this Alex. Caruso did not leave them leave the team and plus minus tonight. It was Dennis Schroder plus Magic Johnson. He was + 32 + 30. Nice on the night. How ridiculous is that 12.6 is this for? Shooter 349 shooting Is Not Great over three from Deep at 6 or 7 for the free throw line still made an impact there and they'll bron James 19.6 boards forces two steals to blocks. We're seeing a rebound bigger rated LeBron the defensive end. He's more locked in there. I think schruder being back. We talked about Shooters defensive energy and how it's going to impact the rest of the team. I feel like it's kind of I don't know it's soaked in with LeBron long as well, which you wouldn't expect being a guy who's been in the league now eighteen Seasons, but LeBron is feeding off of Shooters energy on defense and he's picked things up recently. He's blocking shots at the room doing when he needs to do their Markieff Morris nice night for him. Thirteen points eight boards four assists from Markieff Morris my goodness two and four from deep, you'll take that twelve points and 11 boards double-double for Kyle Coolidge man, picking the picking the next man up award tonight is not going to be easy and I love that 13 points for Alex Caruso 11:40 HT, by the way for assistant for boards as well for cruise. And we gotta say it Damian Jones look good eight points 343 shooting three boards two blocks two of two at the free throw line. Pretty much did the things that you would expect them to do Chris. I love a game like this where I don't even have anything negative to say. I look down the scoresheet. I Look to look at everybody here. I'm not looking at anybody thinking man. This guy really busy tonight know everybody played. Well did what they needed to do. And anybody who was a little bit off didn't really make much of a detriment to the team is a great night. Yeah, this is one of those where you're let me just say this tonight. We are definitely not master locking a Laker because there was nobody you know, this was just a gray everybody. I thought so every Laker was good tonight. You know what I mean in some way like even you know, and I know people point out kcpt and kcpt still offensively struggling but it's not anything worth giving him to log tonight. The team defensively was incredible. I think they had like it was like twenty two two thirteen and fast-break points. They were just I don't know how many turnovers the Warriors ended up having but it felt like the lady was just turning them over again that on the brake and they just kind of ran and you know, there was no it wasn't like one of those games where the Lakers start out in the first quarter and they they're they get down by 10 feet down by Twenty men. They started cooking his game. I think it was like eight he got up to like Seventeen or eighteen two five or something like that and the Lakers just never looked back man. They were humming offensive log. And I don't know it was just this is definitely a great night to be a Laker fan right here. I mean, especially after coming off those, you know, just think about it man. It was not just a couple of games ago that like the world was for us like the sky was falling every we were like what's going on like we looked so terrible. We thought that we might possibly lose every game going into the All-Star break like we were starting to prepare for that. But I thought same time I think you and me and most of my coronation knew that you know, when you don't have a d and you don't have shrewd or man, that's your second and third best player and and you know, that's, you know not having shrew on top of Davis man that really obviously had a profound effect on the team like you can't there's just not enough guys, you know, like LeBron on the team with that kind of skill set to kind of carry the load it off if when the brown goes out, so yeah, man, I don't know there's just there's a lot we can talk about it and point out tonight, but all in all men. This was nice nice stress-free, you know wage. Sunday night for us here. I guess though the one downside Damian Jones did leave a little bit early with a back injury to go to lock another only six minutes left. That was a blowout game. So I'm not going to assume that it's some like a serious injury, but he did go back to the locker room with a trainer fingers crossed because he did look very good tonight. Hopefully it's nothing serious and we'll be waiting on an update for the from the Lakers on that. But LeBron LeBron made a comment just now about how he's been putting in more effort on the defensive and how he was flying around. So he's noticing it he himself is recognizing. Hey, I'm being more active and because that other people are being more active they're feeding off of each other. So that's great to see how the defensive end. Now we don't want to make this to be like the Lakers just went out there and beat the Clippers the box change any of the other top teams the 76ers the Nets that this wind doesn't fall in that category, but the Warriors have been a solid team that 7th seat in the Western Conference. They're second in the NBA in Pace. They shoot a m three pointers. They can be a challenge case in point. They beat the Lakers last go round. So it was nice to see them get out here and get this W tonight and do it the way they did which was absolutely fantastic. So why go ahead drive? I'm just real quick. I'm glad you pointed that out cuz there was a point in this game where I was thinking to myself like wild while we playing this good or maybe are the Warriors just as bad but wage. Where is just came off like a three or four game-winning straight to so yeah, it's definitely not a win over the net so the clippers but this is I don't think it's a testament to how bad the Warriors is. I think it's a testament took the shot in the arm shooter has given us and you know, just kind of like how well we are doing overall now defensively and offensively especially the game like this. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah. I mean look, we we never want to get to them was great as this feels. We don't want to just assume. Oh my gosh, the Lakers are going to blow everybody out by Thirty Point that's not going to happen. We also know the four-game losing streak where they they played so poorly that's not really them either right there smack in the middle. So but still it was nice to finally get this high point on the roller coaster because it feels like we've been waiting a long time going all the way back to what was at February we talked about this on the last show beginning of February or February 6th or something like that against Denver. That was the last time we saw the light level so it's been almost a month. So this was much-needed just in terms of Lakers fandom. So that's that wage. To see all right, let's get into some questions and comments here. Somebody at our chat said nobody gets traded at least for tonight because it or chat we see so many people say trade this guy get rid of this guy get rid of that guy tonight. Everybody's good. Nobody's getting traded. Let's hope that's not even guess all not even gosol tonight. Right exactly. Exactly. Okay, people saying schruder is the key. I'm looking for a few questions and comments here and we'll give away a lakersnation.com license plate frame. Oh I missed I should have started off the show with this Anthony David Diaz. Thank you for reminding me from YouTube Anthony Diaz. Shoot me a DM on Twitter. Send me your name and mailing address so I can send you a Lakers license plate frame. I put this out on on Twitter earlier. Alex Caruso's birthday is today. So it was a birthday game for Alex Caruso. Happy birthday Alex Cruz, I believe he is turning 27. Go the goat the plus-minus go somebody asking to Damian Jones hurt his back. Yeah, so if we're looking at the Damian Jones injury what what happened and we get we don't know just yet. But there was that play James Wiseman backed him into the post and Wiseman went up and scored over him and I thought it was weird. Like I was ready to say. Oh, yeah. There's there's a motor issues coming up because you didn't see Damian Jones go up to contest the shot or block the shot or anything, right? He didn't didn't do any of that and I thought that was odd for a guy playing on a 10-day contract somebody score over him without even going up to contest like why not contest that shot. But as soon as the play ended he was kind of holding his back a little bit and I noticed that so it's something to do with this back how serious it is. We don't know but I guess let's just get into it. You know, I thought as much as excited as Lakers fans are going to be for Damian Jones tonight and they should be I thought he was very very good. I don't think he was flawless. I thought dead. Some issues that we saw so we saw him get knocked back under the basket. I believe it was by Eric paschall who went and scored over him. Right that was an issue. I thought he looked tentative some of his movements were a little bit hesitant, but we should be expecting that. He just got here two days ago, right, but I also think that we have to celebrate the good that we saw from him. Right? We we've been lacking at the Lakers. We've been like a rim Runner. We like in a guy who could get up and finish Above the Rim that can be a lot of threat. He did that somebody who can protect the rim and get up and block shots. He did that two blocks had three rebounds against some of his movements didn't look super-fly fluid, but overall, I think this was a nice debut from him and I'm keeping my fingers crossed and hoping that the back injury isn't anything too serious. It will be able to see him again here because this was for a guy in a 10-day contract. You can't ask for much more than what Damian Jones did tonight for the Lakers. Yeah, I mean, I agree. It's such a small sample size though, you know, I mean, it's kind of one of those things where I just kind of I hopefully his back his okay so we can see some more of him. I don't want to make wage passing judgment on him just based on the few minutes he played tonight with outside of the fact that you know, he looked athletic. He looked bouncy. He got what did he get? He got one block, right? So one block to he got you two blocks. Two blocks. Yeah. I mean, I liked what he saw mainly because it's the opposite of a lot of it looks like the opposite I guess all and that's not to disparage Kasam Khao to know we do enough of that, you know in the chat and all that but you know, it's just, you know, we want a guy who's quick athletic bouncy, you know can block shots and that's kind of what we saw from him. So I'm looking forward to seeing more and then you know, I'm sure hopefully if it's vax okay after ten games will kind of have a better read on like if we're all like dead set on keeping him and I'm sure we'll hear it from birth. Everybody will have an opinion. Yeah, absolutely. That's just it like he's going to have a little ways to go to still prove himself. But again, I just think this was a nice start for him showed us what it was that age that he that he could bring people complaining about West Matthews. I'm not even here for it right now, right? It looks less not used to not have the best game. I don't care the Lakers Lakers were up by what Thirty how much money they win by I mean, come on. They this is a blowout win. I'm not going to worry too much about West Matthews tonight in this game. I think that he was very very good out there and you know what, I love to Marcus off himself a nice game for a guy that's been criticized a lot and and rightfully so he's had plenty issues, but he had a nice night as well for boards one block nine points, three or four shooting and two of three from Deep Volt take that from Marcus all and it just like we needed this kind of performance from the Lakers Marcus all needed a Night Like This Yeah, what did he what did you say? What do you do from the three-point line? Let's see. Oh, yeah for three. This is a this is exactly what it's funny cuz this is exactly what you and me were saying that we wanted out of him just to shoot a couple more threes and his playmaking obviously is awesome. I mean, you know, there is offensively man. There's not, you know, I don't there's not a huge downside because Holly actually adds to the team right? It's just we're more worried. Somebody was calling them cuz slug in our staff members. So I've seen a family that's yeah, but I mean, I wouldn't say that, you know for anybody who thinks that maybe because all hasn't stepped up his play but I think we've seen him step up a bit from at least where where he was in terms of again. He's at least it seems like he's shooting a bit better now and off again, his playmaking has been good the whole time for a big man as a pastor. You know what I mean? That's what the thing I instantly kind of fell in love with with them. But it was one of the only things initially, right. I mean, what is this passing? Yeah, exactly. So yeah. All right guys, let's take one more question and comments question and comment here and let's Thursday and then we're going to get into the next man up award. I've got more people worried about West Matthews again. I'm not going to worry about West Matthews tonight. Well, I want to look at a stat line cuz I didn't really pay attention to that tonight. Okay, somebody who has the username hater on YouTube says Gasol want to make or break our Squad carry on. What do you think about the reserves? That was I mean, that's actually one of the big story life from this night. We don't normally get to see this extended run for a guy like Alfonzo mckinnie. Normally he gets in garbage time. Like two minutes left hard to really get a look at him. We also got to see Devonte K, Got to see Kostas. Antetokounmpo dots on those guys Kristen anybody really stand out to you out of that group. Who was it who got that Duncan the fourth quarter I turned away for one second. It was it was his brother who who shot the free throw and then got his own rebound and down or something cuz I turned away if you remember when I want to jump on take a cock is over to believe it was him. What did he do? Did he can't get a rebound and his own rebound and dunk it or something that he was dead. You know, I didn't see the exact Play Because I had to translate into my studio here and that was right when that happened, but but I thought he was fine. Oh somebody saying it was Kostas. Okay, I'll look at customer Hostess. This is a guy who yeah, he was 141 on the night. So that was just one finish Kostas is a guy who can get up and throw the ball down. And so that was that's great to see for him. Devon take a cock is a rebounder in for boards for him out to the coupon three boards. I guess the point is these guys can play right? These are guys who can contribute but on a deep team like the Lakers your Championship contenders wage. The opportunities are going to be few and far between but what I like is the whole dynamic here, right? If you're Devon, take a cock if you're Kostas antetokounmpo and the Lakers just brought in Damian Jones another big on a 10-day contract. That's got a light a little fire or do you write because if the Lakers need to another big you're there to weigh guys shouldn't they be turning to you too, man? Those took it and and so they they stepped it up tonight. I thought they looked pretty good. But again limited run seven minutes per caucus 642 cupo McKinney. I'll tell you what he was over for shooting over three for three didn't produce much one foul. One point. That's it in 12 minutes. That's not a great outing but also say there was a play out there where Jared Dudley had the ball and the Lakers were going to create and what did he do? He went and found McKinney because he knew McKinney could take his man and get to the basket. And while the stat sheet says it wasn't a good performance to me that kind off. Respect from a guy like Jared Dudley says something it tells me that McKinney's doing stuff like this in practice because we barely get to see him. I'm still curious. I wish we got to see some more minutes from McKinley because I think there might be a little bit more there. I do Wonder like at some point if Wes Matthews say continues to struggle does McKinney start to pick up minutes cuz I mean, he's got the the Swingman skill-set where he can be kind of a three-and-d type player. I wonder if at some point the Lakers do start throwing him some more minutes because it's again tonight wasn't a great night for him, but he's shown some flashes here and there. Yeah, you know you asked me about if anybody stood out like, you know, I don't think any one of them particularly stood out tonight. I don't know if I was just also looking at it like we were basically in garbage time from halfway and took almost the whole second half but I mean Damian Jones did stand out and I don't know if that's just cuz I was maybe hyper focused on him cuz he's our newest guy a 10-day acquisition. So but Damian Jones was the main main one out of the out of those guys just stood out to be still just because again, I might have just been hyper-focused but I liked what he brought. Yeah. Yeah. I thought it was I thought it was a good one. And I'm fine with that people talking about tht. Yeah. I like some of that too. Yeah T's taking it to the basket didn't had a nice little kind of spinning layup, which he normally does but three steals 11 points for THD 5 for 12 shooting. All right, Chris. Let's get into the next man up award next man up reward off. We find it here. Here we go. All right, and the next man up at work tonight? I love I love nights like this. There's so many different options that could legitimately get the next man up a war. But this is the non-office star players. So not LeBron who we think stepped up the most Chris. Who do you think it should go to? Why it's not even fair because we talked about this a little before the show, but you know, it would be very easy to just single out schruder because of the schruder effect over the last couple of games off, but honestly when you look at the stat line and I think Markieff Morris had a really nice night, I mean you look at what he did tonight. What did he 13 points 8 rebounds four assists. I mean you don't get that every night out of Morris. So you really kind of stood up as a good game for him and I was glad to see that cuz he was a good part of her our crew last season. So to see him kind of return the form a little bit tonight. It was good to see Eddie's our starters. So you want to see him have some good production. Yeah. I agree with you Chris, you know when it when this game kicked off and and the starting lineup was released. I saw Markieff Morris wage there. I still kind of I don't want to use the word cringe cuz that's overused at this point, but I I was a little bit. I don't know. I wasn't thrilled that Marquee for Thursday. The starting lineup and that's because I remember foot speed with Gasol and Markieff together. I just don't like that combination. I'd rather see kuzma there. But she was credit Marquis ports was tremendous tonight efficient scorer did what he needed to do. And I mean, when does he ever put up for assist? So this is this was a really nice night for him and I would like to we saw all over the place eight boards and just 24 minutes. He was great. It was great. I really liked we saw two Markieff Morris. This was similar to the Markieff Morris that we saw in the Houston series in the second round a guy took was a difference-maker that we haven't seen enough of this season. So I hope that what's happening is we're seeing Markieff Morris kind of play his way into form, right? He's been struggling a little bit this season, but hopefully nowadays. I'm a little bit more minutes with a d out. He's starting to get his legs under him starting to get into a rhythm and now we're going to see a better version of him moving forward because tonight he was great can't ask for much more than plus eighteen thirteen points eight boards for says in 24 minutes for a guy that is on a veteran-minimum contract that you got on the Bayou Market last season tremendous stuff from him. So I agree Chris. I think you've got to give the next man up to Markieff Morris. Hay khong Get our chat Luis Martinez from YouTube said when was the last time we saw LeBron played 24 minutes, right? And by the way guys remember if you hear me call your name during this show me show me a DM send it to me on Twitter. I will send you a lakersnation.com license plate frame. All you got to do is send me your name. Send me your mailing address email address. I'll send you a lakersnation.com license plate frames. Luis Martinez twins. Merch last time we saw the brawn played 24 minutes and he said in all caps so we know he's extra serious about that. But when was the last time I'm looking right now did he say that few minutes? This is I'm pretty sure he didn't know that's that's just illness was a season this season. Hi and Lois minute or a season-low in for Louis minutes for LeBron was tonight. I was it was what were you wanting even looking at? The preseason into preseason games has LeBron played 15 minutes one game 25 the next so the only time that he's played less twenty years. Minutes or less was in one preseason game. That's it. Every other game that he's played in. He's played more than 24 minutes. Wow. So this was the lower minutes game for from LeBron James on the season and that's again we go back to okay. Look the Lakers. They needed a blowout win. We haven't seen the plate of the play this way and so long this is a nice shot in the arm, not just for the team, but for the fan base to get to see this kind of a game. This is also exactly what we wanted out of LeBron on night where he doesn't have to do the heavy lifting a night where he can get out of the game early where he can take his shoes. I'll put his flip-flops on the ice on his knees and say you guys got it for the fourth quarter. I love it. I love it. This this that was perfect. Yeah, cuz I we all tend to worry about LeBron, even though he says that he's not tired and everything like that. We don't want to see him putting too many miles on. You know what I mean too many miles on him, especially with a d out and you know, there was so much pressure on him to do a job. Much and shrewder has just alleviated a lot of that and again brought energy to the team. So LeBron got to rest tonight. Hopefully we'll have we got the Sun's next. I know we'll talk about this later. I think we got the Kings. So hopefully we can get some more this I mean, I know those teams are kind of tough. I don't know about Sacramento, but you know, hopefully LeBron will get you know won't have to believe what we can get a couple more wage. You're going into the All-Star break and hopefully LeBron won't be too taxed and you know, I know he's got to do the All-Star break too, but hopefully, you know what? I mean, we just this is going to be this a tough stretch without a d so, you know, we just we do have a brunch afterward too hard. Obviously we want to miss precious can be for the postseason. Absolutely. Absolutely. Hey guys, I'm getting a lot of questions about Damian Jones. Is he? Okay. I'm trying to keep an eye on things see if there's anything being reported from the Lakers locker room. As soon as we hear anything. I'll let you know if if anything's going on with him, but Chris, you know, you want to talk a little bit about the Master Lock of the name. I know we had a few options and you kind of wanted to throw them out there to our listeners. So so why don't you lay that on us? What's what are your thoughts for the Master Lock of the night tonight? All right. So what we're going to we have three candidates for the Master Lock of the night tonight. So candidate number one. Let's go Seth Curry For That Elbow right off the face of schruder on that three-point attempt that they still called as a foul on Dennis Schroder, but I mean true color was upset. I was upset you were upset. So everybody in the chat was up said it was just the way the way he kind of drove forward with it. It just it kind of sucked and then okay, so then for our second candidate and again, this is going out to Laker Nation. However, you guys overwhelmingly say won't be getting our next candidate is kevon Looney for that high pitch squeal when he got called for a foul, right? That's yeah you needed about that and I had caught You know, I was like well once and then I saw your tweet I was like unbelievable and then so for our third candidate for Master Lock of the night is our old friend a boy, sir, take mr. Commentator Richard Jefferson who drives us all crazy with awful wall, Just weird little ticks. So regulation, who's it going to be Kevon Looney Thursday, it's Richard Jefferson playlist. Whoever overwhelmingly takes it gets let us know in the comments on YouTube Facebook Periscope. Let us know who should be put in the Master Lock again. It's it's Steph Curry with that elbow. This is becoming a pet peeve of mine. I think the NBA needs to seriously look at natural shooting motion as as a tweak. They need to make as a rule. Right if it's not a natural shooting motion that maybe it's just on the out-of-bounds on the side. You know, it's just a it's not it's a non-shooting foul because we're seeing so many guys do what Steph Curry did where where you had shorter was a few feet away from him and careers. Jumps into we're at the point where you almost have to protect the landing space of the defender because they're getting offensive players jumping into them constantly this time Steph Curry did a little flying elbow action. So that's that certainly one. That could be Master Lock worthy. Then we also have of course that Kevon Looney that shriek I guess is the only thing I said on Twitter that it was like he was upset about the call but also saw a ghost at the same time, like that's that's what it sounded like the noise that came out of his mouth at that point and it happened to get picked up by the by the microphones and then of course Richard Jefferson, I like it. I'm getting a lot of comments coming in. People are overriding us and saying it should be Wes Matthews. We're not giving it to a Laker tonight. Oh my gosh. Yeah, we're getting we're getting a lot of them are getting a lot of RJ and unexpectedly. We're getting some Gary Sheffield, I guess exporters. I guess that's where it screws Master people are mad because he imagined a lot kuzma last game. I didn't agree with him on that one. But yeah people were were not happy with them on on that one, but I'm getting I think to me based on what I'm seeing here and I'm seeing a lot of I'm seeing YouTube app Facebook. I'm seeing Periscope all coming in. It looks like it's a lot of stuff Curry right now. Yeah, I think that might be in the lead and I think RJ Richard Jefferson looks like he's coming in second. Right. Now Kevon Looney doing is getting a pass here. Hey, Aaron, I've got so let's let's officially say Steph Curry gets the Master Lock of the night for the flying elbow to Dennis Schroder. Hey, I got a nice quote. We need to talk about here. Kyle kuzma talking about Damian Jones said he is a shot to be here for the rest of the season if he can continue playing like he did in tonight's debut off. Gotta like that, huh? I agree. Right right. I mean guzma saying he's got a shot to be here to really let me just say one thing traffic you tweeted about life and I thought this was it was really cool to see how much the Lakers were going out of their way to feed him the ball man and really like it was just a nice thing to see when you got a guy who's on a 10-day contract and you got a team that's welcoming. Looks like they're welcoming him the way they are and they're really going out of their way to get him the ball. I just I really like that from the team and you had pointed that out. So I just wanted to mention that page Chris. I think that's that was something that I really liked. I love seeing that from the Lakers because here's the thing right Damian Jones. Let's be real here. This is his career on the line. Right. I mean if this doesn't work, you might not see him in the NBA again. That's that's reality. This guy was the 30th pick and 2016. He's been a bit of a journeyman was at the warriors with the Hawks the sons that he gets cut and now he's got this what could be his last chance off, right? I mean never say never look he could go play in the G League. He could go play overseas. He could battle his way back like it happens sometimes but more often than not it doesn't once you're done. That's it. Once you get you don't come back and so Damian Jones has to look at this as his last shot Jordy time. You want to be an NBA player or not and the Lakers to their credit. They're up by Thirty. And so they can they have the they have the leeway to do this. They ran the plays that would that he could be successful in they put him into screen real situations. They had him slipping some screens rolling to the rim. That is his birth bought her that's where he's most effective catching lobs at the basket. They put him in a position to succeed on the offensive end and then on defense he did he did his thing. He stayed in the paint. He contested shots and got a couple Well nice blocks, but it was nice to see the Lakers go out of their way to say look man, if if you don't make it if you don't stick it's not going to be because there was some Misfortune because it was just unlucky we're going to give you every chance to prove yourself. Here. It is. Here's your shot and so far he sees that opportunity. I hope he's okay injury-wise because like you said that was very cool to see the Lakers really go out of their way to put him in positions to be successful. Yeah, it's right. That was more put man. I mean, yeah, it's it's essentially a career on the line. So for them to recognize that and try to help a brother out. I mean, that's cool Chris, you know. Another thing we need to mention today. We had two world champions playing today because the Los Angeles Dodgers got back into action in spring training. So you had the champion Dodgers playing today off the champion Lakers Los Angeles city of Champions gotta love that if you guys aren't doing so already make sure you are following Dodge or blue at Dodger blue 1958 over on Twitter and they are doing some amazing stuff over on the Dodger blue YouTube channel just like we do here for Lakers Nation just Spiegel does a great job over there at the Dodger blue YouTube channel. So if you're a Dodgers fan, make sure you go subscribe to the Dodger blue YouTube channel. They do a post game show just like we do they call it Dodger heads. It's really good Daniel Stark and hops and he's a guy who works with Lakers Nation as well. They do a great job. So again, I'm a huge fan of the work they do. So make sure you guys go check out dead. Dodger blue as well. All right, guys, let's see. Let's get a couple more questions and comments. Somebody mentioned. Don't forget. It's Alex Caruso the crew shows birthday cake. Yes, we absolutely will not forget. We already mentioned that. Oh Chris Ono Paul call parinello from Facebook said, I'd like to arm wrestle Chris the Masters like you want to arm-wrestle. I mean, you're not even getting the name right Chris the Masters. What city time any place right there next Laker Nation party. There you go about that because there there you go next time when all this covid-19 office is starting to subside. Right and we can go and we can actually hack they have we can have a we can have a watch party will have to set that up. All right, here we go something on Damian Jones Mike trudell Damian Jones made his debut for the Lakers tonight left a game with a low back strain day-to-day moving forward. Okay. So the positive it's a back strain nothing's torn or anything like that, but day-to-day a hopefully this isn't something that lingers too long because the 10-day contract he signed it what two days ago. He doesn't have a lot of time to get back in Action. So hopefully he's okay. But again, it sounds like it's not something that would keep him out for like weeks or anything like that but back injuries can indeed be tricky so fingers crossed for him. Hopefully he's all right, and we can see them back in Action here within the next couple of games. This is truly one of those situations where I think he's going to have to do whatever he can to suck it up and play through because all the reasons you just highlighted a couple of minutes ago. You know what I mean? What song by the opportunity he has if it's not there's no tear or injury if he's just hurt played through a man just play through while been your best. I've got bad Dog Sports from YouTube saying the back strains hurt like hell he will not play Tuesday or Wednesday. Trust me. Oh, well, that would that would certainly be unfortunate if that's if that's what winds up happening that he can't play Tuesday or Wednesday, but I can't say this guy's let's say because the Lakers have two games left, right and then they head off the All-Star break, but let's say that he can't play Tuesday or Wednesday. The Lakers could always give them another ten day contract you can do to 10-day contracts in a row before you have to really make a decision. So if they liked what they saw tonight if you've shown well in practice if they think of somebody worthwhile to hang onto and if he's if he's not able to play, who knows maybe he will be right. Maybe it's real job. Not that bad. Okay, but if he's not able to play these next two games that doesn't mean it's he's gone that could mean they just extended to another 10-day contract and then can kind of go from there. But you know, but let's not worry too much just yet, but hopefully he's okay. Somebody much. Yeah, they'll probably give another 10 day. Yeah, I would like to see it. I would like to see it. Robert Gonzales, says Damian Jones will have a real test next game if he plays against DeAndre. Ayton. Yeah, I think that's definitely true especially because he is a former Phoenix something like you got his revenge game tonight against the Warriors He's a former Warrior the sons cut him. I hope and again it sounds like with the lower back strain with the big man. That's usually not a good sign. But if she was able to go I would like to see him get some minutes against the team that cut him the sun's because hey Revenge games they gave you Jones Revenge game already two games in home of the awesome. So Tyrone Bennett Watkins from Facebook said Trevor's at me or does Jones look like he's seven five and not 611. Also love the polling for the Master Lock. That's something in you doing can we possibly do a poll online or maybe on flick to pick the Master Lock of the night? I like that. I think that's a great idea. Maybe we'll have to start doing that maybe over on Flickr or something like that. By the way guys if you log, What flick is flick isn't that we're using to continue these conversations? So we have these chats after every game. I do my pre-game videos every time we have a game too, but there's a lot of time to get in there. Right? There's a lot of time between the pregame video the game the post game and then before the Lakers play again. So in order to continue our conversations, we have the flick app, which is where you can go you can you can sign up and it's very very easy and it's like a giant group text basically, but everybody is a Lakers fan and so it's a ton of fun. I love getting in there and chatting with everybody. So you guys can come join us over on flake. I didn't get the link in the description below on YouTube just yet for this video the one we're doing right now. But any other video that you look at on our YouTube channel has the link to flicks or you guys can go and register sign up and it is really a lot of em is a good place for us to put a pole for the Master Lock of the night. So I do like that idea quite a bit. So let's do a couple more of these. Okay, so the combat about about Damian Jones looking so tall. Part of that is because like Montrezl Harrell is 6-7, right and the Warriors had their small lineup on the floor except for James Wiseman Montrezl Harrell six seven. So compared to him off right Damian Jones is huge. And the Lakers don't have anybody with his kind of body type. He's not only tall but he's long. I mean, he's he's 6:11 with a 7-4 wingspan. So we're talking basically Anthony Davis Dimensions, but he's a little bit. He looks like a little bit thicker like I would be surprised if he isn't heavier than any Anthony Davis. So that's what you're seeing out there. That's why he looks so young and it's not it's not like he's not baking is he's a big dude and that's that's part of the appeal of him is that he's that big and he also has that much athleticism. You guys saw the way he got off the ground to finish that long that that is Damian Jones at his best finishing lobs at The Rim he is a breathtaking athlete is when all he has to do is get up grab the ball and throw it through the basket other parts of his game. Yeah game that little bit iffy, right but blocking shots throwing down lobs. He can do those things and he can get on some highlight reels. That's for sure. And I loved it tonight cuz you have a text me like right that's literally one minute before your life get that mantle off and then it was like literally within the next few minutes that he got that lob in the third quarter. So yeah, I get it was nice to see him because he just he fills that void that we've all been venting about on a game show in terms of a rim protection and an athletic big man. So I mean, I think that's why and not to mention what you just mentioned. All those stats about him is wingspan and all that. Like wow. Wow. Yeah. Absolutely. That's the physical profile. You've been you've been looking for. So people in the chat are mentioning I'm wrong. Apparently Anthony Davis has ten pounds on him. Somebody said Trevor can't judge. Wait, okay off fairly. I can I haven't I haven't seen a d for a little bit. All right, we got to put up side-by-side that maybe I'd be a little more accurate with that. It's a shot in the dark people. Come on. All right, let's Bob's bring energy written three or four times here. We got you. Yes. Yeah, you know what? That's a that's a good point to the Lakers haven't had that lob threat recently. They haven't had that guy that can just get throw the ball down have that vertical spacing because you know, this is something that doesn't get talked about enough. I feel like in the NBA we talked about gravity all the time. We talked about gravity four Shooters right with a Steph Curry Klay Thompson, Kevin Durant these these guys that are just snipers. You have to stay glued to them on the perimeter or they're they're going to just pick you apart. And so they create no spacing with their gravity. They don't allow guys to collapse into the paint to protect the rim. That's one type of gravity. What a guy like Damian Jones does what his kind of gravity. That's a Javale McGee song Gravity where his rolls to the rim are so effective because he can get up so high and can throw the ball down. He is such a lob threat that guy's actually have to collapse into the paint in order to wage. Add him the weakside defender if he sets a screen-roll the weakside defender has to get into the paint to tag him to make sure by tag. I mean they just have to get and put a body on him for a second or two before they jump back out to their man off. But that second or two can be enough to open up a three-point shot. So he's got Gravity by forcing people to collapse when he's rolled into the basket and that might open up some outside Shooters. That's something with the Lakers haven't had this season. So I'm not saying he's the best player ever, but that type of skill-set is something we have not seen since last season. Yeah, you know you just as you were saying all that I was just envisioning. I mean just think about how good the team has looked. I mean again if you take out the four-game losing streak and not having a d and all that but the team has looks really good at certain points. So you just almost imagine that if you're able to fill that void right there, I mean not to say I mean obviously kcpt has been in a slump and stuff like that. But if you're able to talk about what void of athletic alap threat a guy a rim protector and then you still have the option of Casal when you want to space the floor and you want playmaking, I mean just think about all the different looks you can throw it teams, you know what I mean? Like we can look completely different and I like that it's it's arrows in the quiver for Frank Vogel, right? It's it's more things that he can pull from home, right? There's going to be some games where you you say, you know, what we don't need a traditional Rim running bag. That's not going to work. We need a floor spacing bag or we need the rebounding that's tries can bring The scoring now trades brakes. That's what we need tonight. It's Frank Vogel getting to mix and match and I love that because for as often as we can criticize vocal and say oh why is this guy playing? Why is that guy Palm this rotation that rotation he proved it in the playoffs last year that he can make adjustments and that he makes the right adjustments going to Markieff Morris in game two against the Rockets named Dwight Howard against Nikola jokic in I'm sorry not game to the the second series, right the Western Conference semifinals the Western Conference Finals using Dwight against yogesh to page him. And then in the Finals game 6 game 6 you go to Alex Caruso who is in the G League last season tremendous player. You start him in a pivotal game 6 NBA championship Frank Vogel is proven that if you give him these different skill-sets to pick from right he will pick the right ones. And so that's what I like about getting a guy like Damian Jones and I know a lot of people Well, you know that's just evidence that they shouldn't have got rid of Dwight. They shouldn't have got rid of JaVale. That's fair, right? We can still have that criticism, but those guys are gone. And so you gotta replace that and I think Damian Jones at least had a thought to be that and we'll see where things go from here with the injury and all that. Well in in the Lakers defense, I mean we didn't technically we didn't want to get rid of the way we weren't trying to get rid of July. We were trying to re-sign him. It's just that whole deal ended up going so funky and Dwight, right just took that took a deal. So I mean, it's not like we didn't want them. We we did want them. Unfortunately, maybe he didn't just hold out at the communication wasn't good. But you know, I mean hopefully dating jokes could fill that void man, cuz I made a lot of time thinking about it imagine, you know, if we had gets all and the guy like Dwight Howard. I mean just again the different looks but hopefully, you know, maybe let's just see what Damian Jones has. I mean maybe again he can avoid so Rafael Pena said Trevor. Do you know what's going on with Montrezl Harrell. He seems tired doesn't have that fire under him suggest me only played eleven minutes. What's up? Nothing. The Lakers game was a blowout. I think he's had tons of fire. I think I think Montrezl Harrell has been just fine. I haven't had an issue with anything that that he's been doing. And yeah Montrezl Harrell has been great. I think Did you only played eleven minutes because they wanted to give Damian Jones a chance to prove himself. I was a blowout win. I have no problems with tries getting a little bit arrest. I don't think anything to do with this play. Hey, it's rev. I don't know if this is true. I think I don't want to go over to Twitter. Check it out. But somebody said that Skip Bayless said that if he comes back Lakers are almost as good as the Clippers. Are you surprised? I don't know why I just I couldn't believe what I saw that I was like, come on. Give me a break. I'm looking right now. He he did say that but we know that's part of his life his stick, right? That's that's what he's going to do. He's going to try to rile people up and and all that but you know, what's working and it's working in our chat. Well, all I'm seeing is Skip Bayless. Hey tonight the Lakers won. And the Clippers did not. Oh, I saw that too. That was great that last played by Jonas. Oh, I love that especially against the Clippers. I mean it was a it was a good game to watch them too. But the Finish was extraordinary. People are saying Palm put skip in the Master Lock. Oh, he's going to get one sometime this. Yeah, we haven't forgot about him, but look for it. All right, let's finish with with one more one more question and comment here. question or account that I should say Master lights still on sale a lot of Master Lock. Skip Robert Gonzales says Damian Jones needs to either gain weight or add some muscle becomes got tossed by Pascal. Yeah, I mean look if Damian Jones was this just you know destroyer of worlds this monster that nobody could handle in the post. He wouldn't have gotten cut right he would have been off by the Phoenix Suns you wouldn't been out there on the market for the Lakers to add. He's he's a guy who has a skill set that they turn currently don't have doesn't mean he's got everything dialed and doesn't mean he's going to be the same behavior to the Lakers in the middle or anything like that. But he's got a skill set that they're currently lacking. What about the things that he can't do do those things matter and do the things that he can do outweigh the things that he can't that's what the Lakers are trying to figure out of the next 10 days tonight pretty good debut, right? We saw a little bit of bad but we also saw some good as well. So, you know, we'll go from there. It's like guys just saying Drive. I mean essentially the only way to think about him at this point is a sterling avoid for yes, you know what I mean? That's it. All right guys, appreciate everybody coming in here and giving us these questions, and somebody asked me how many spots left one one more roster spot left, although on a 10-day contract Damian Jones. We'll see if you continues to occupy that roster Spot Free Chic joining us tonight. Obviously great night. The Lakers get the wind blow out almost wire-to-wire win. LeBron only had to play 24 minutes. Damian Jones has his debut. Hopefully his back winds up being okay, but he looked good number Lakers players look good tonight. It's a good night for the Los Angeles Lakers have got to love that Chris. Thanks so much man for for helping on here with me again. Oh man, it's always a pleasure, especially on a night like this. We are back on track. Let's get two more get into the All-Star break and then you know get on with the second half of the Season man. That's right. I go Lakers vs Suns coming up on Tuesday till then everybody. See you and stay safe.

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John & Ken Show Hour 2 (02/03)

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John & Ken Show Hour 2 (02/03)

"In china can't show john kobylt and ken chiampou. Kfi am six forty live everywhere on the iheartradio app. Pay stay with us at five. Oh five we do have brand new figures to present on the efforts to recall gavin newsom as governor of california versus. Vaccinations administered in the state. And by the way The guy we talked about a lot last week the tech guy chom jaama probably get one to officials said he's not running and it's too bad but he did give one hundred grand to recall That's very good so there's a mixed message it'd be fun to have a wildcard kept running if league so i think the real proof of how effective the recall could be as if a democrat of some kind gets into the race if you have a democrat with an unusual set of views like trauma. Does that really would shake everybody up. Nobody would know how to deal with that and he seems to be fearless in in saying what's on his mind to is sorely needed so i hope grounds at some point for something i did not. I'm not endorsing. I'm just saying these are the kind of people that we need. Somebody who wanna to shake things up. Fresh point of view and some Some blunt honesty right. not old. Windbags have come up to the political party lines and say all the right things about all the dopey issues that they make up. Hold it speak like newsom. You know through puts through its. That's a word of the day through puts remember equity. Is the call of the moment. The the big topic today is getting. These schools reopened particularly the lower grades. It's happened in many parts of the country but california like a number of states is stuck and the unions are one of the big blocks even today. Newsom cited word from the director. That vaccination is not necessarily a prerequisite for reopening school safely. We're going to talk now to mark run alert. Abc news kfi about more on this story. Mark what's this about guy. So the cdc today the director of the cdc doctor rochelle walinsky said that Just that that the the vaccinations are not a prerequisite to opening school safely or at least the evidence. There's mounting evidence to suggest that that's the case. They say that it appears you can reopen schools. with mask mandates and social distancing and that that can be done safely One of the things that they cite here is a study from wisconsin where they looked at the. Cdc looked at seventeen Schools in rural wisconsin in the fall last year over thirteen weeks. There were masks being worn in the school And they said that there were one hundred and ninety one cases of covid nineteen over those thirteen weeks They said that only seven of those could be attributed to transmission within the school itself and said essentially the school had Lower transmission rates than the community at large and so that kind of also pulls away the evidence or or concern that schools may be transmission centers. Like what we saw with nursing homes and places like that these close quarters where the disease can spread very quickly now. They're saying you need to do this with masks and social distancing so while this gives some fodder to the argument made by senate minority leader mitch mcconnell today that he was saying the democrats and teachers unions have been holding this up. Because they're they're saying they want to be vaccinated before they return. The biden administration is still turning this around to say. Well you know the hook entirely here. This still requires a stimulus plan from congress to get p and testing and all these other things so while they're essentially giving some fodder to the argument they're also saying you still need to get the stimulus done so it's not on a one to one. Give the teachers unions out here. In california are neat not even satisfied with just getting vaccinated themselves they want the students vaccinated as far as we know. There is no vaccine for kids under sixteen. It doesn't now. There's not nothing. That's fda approved. The fda approved the pfizer vaccine for sixteen years and older and then the moderna vaccine i believe is eighteen years and older so there is no vaccine right now with any efficacy. Study or concern about safety. Study that would involve children Particularly of school age children Maybe at best late high school but nothing in grade school kids and middle school kids. is there a timetable. Have you heard for chill vaccine. No no. I don't know because you know that would require some further study that those studies may be ongoing between the pfizer and madonna vaccines in some of these other vaccines but the clinical trials that took place and which the fda approval of these vaccines are based off of. Were in adults. They were done. You know to take part in these studies. The phase three trials with the thirty thousand people that were part of these various studies. They were all eighteen and older I believe in the pfizer. Which is why they allowed it. Sixteen years and older and there was a this was part of the approval. Process was the discussion about whether or not they should include the limited data they had for people under eighteen but they decided that again in their minds the benefit outweighed the risks so they allowed it to be for sixteen years older. So i mean that's where it stands out how how long the unions are going to be able to get away with this if we if we start looking at two years with the students not getting in person schooling while it might depend there might be obviously some push and pull their from the unions and from People who think that by vaccine should be given before they reopened. But you do have the biden administration and the cdc now suggesting the other way that this can be done without that. So that's going to add some pressure to it and clearly. There's support on that largely in the republican side so now you have know. Essentially the top democrat The president of the united states in his administration saying that. This can be done safely without having to wait for vaccines mark. Thank you very much for that report. You bet thanks It's mark rumble. Our abc news for kfi and again you got the cdc and this is biden administration. Now you've got newsom saying the same thing. It's time to reopen. The pressure is on these unions to finally give in and let some of the kids. Get back in the classrooms. Because i think there's kind of a multiplier effect you miss one year of in person instruction in a classroom. That's probably equal to more than that in terms of the lost education to the child because the classroom makes a big difference. The interaction kids are more on their toes. Because they're in class or spot on in front of the teacher and the other students to do the work to be called on this zoom thing tuning in tuning out. Who knows what the hell's really going on there. I've read that half the kids. Don't even don't even sign on and again this equity thing. I tell you this i walk around my neighborhood some mornings the garage doors are and there's usually one mother in there with like seven or eight kids around little tables and she's working with them. You don't have that in the poor neighborhood now. You don't do that. Those parents have to work or they don't really have the skills to become like little mini. Instructors the kids with their zoom homework or whatever else but and that's gonna make the gap even bigger we talking about why this this these stupid union here in la. We have a disproportionate number of low income students. Don't get that you gotta get them back falling further and further behind. They don't care obviously they don't care. They haven't lifted their finger at all for a year. And now they're talking at least another six months and if they're waiting on a vaccine it's going to be two years they don't care go read the United teachers la twitter feed like we were last hour. Go scroll there for about five minutes. There is extreme and militant as you'll ever see any any organization. They're a bunch of extreme militants. There is nothing in there about not one. Tweet i could find. Were they worried about the kids education. They they don't care about the minority kids. That's been the big scandal these years. They don't care and up to this point. The politicians didn't carry either. Everybody knows that the white districts have some kind of school going on for their kids. Whether it's a homeschooling it's those pods or it's a private schools charter. Schools religious schools. The public schools in la are hugely minority. Their latest latest. Well we want all the rates to come down particularly in these hard hit neighborhoods. It doesn't matter it. They have excuse constantly. What if we get another surge. What if we don't get vaccines you what we're talk yesterday that they have. They have a test case in new orleans in two thousand and five with katrina. There was no school for year. everything was flooded out. The kids lost the equivalent of three years of education. By the time they went back by time they went back to school. A fifth grader was at a second grade level because they had forgotten everything they had learned because going to fifth grade. They spend a lot of time. Reminding you what you learned in fourth grade in fourth grade. They spent a lot of time. Reminded you what was in third grade. You go whole year. It all gets flushed away. But they don t the teachers don't care if people get past their silly little idolization of teachers and realize what they're about. they're they're. They are a hard core bare knuckles. Union we got more coming up in right as we come back. You'll hear that. Keyword to text possibly thousand dollars john and ken. Kfi john and ken show john kobylt and ken chiampou edson text win money for your chance at a thousand bucks text. The nationwide keyword money emo y two hundred two hundred. You'll get a confirmation texting info standard data and message rates apply nationwide contest. That's money to two hundred two hundred when the phone rings answering. Might be the money even if you don't recognize the number likely coming from the five one three area code and next chance to win next hour. Four twenty the keyword. We'll have more on returning teachers to the classroom. That southern california group is saying that needs to be done and we'll talk about it with an extra have our own expert. John when you think an expert good we say science says that's supposed to end the conversation not anymore there my expert. That's what they use science when they wanted to take our freedoms away and now they're ignoring science because it would mean giving us our freedoms back So suddenly they're they're not interested in science anymore. I can't go to a restaurant. Kids can't go to school but the science says i don't care about science it's like cuomo said he doesn't care about experts anymore but eventually that's your only defense right. Yep yep yeah. Because it's all these warnings. The super bowl this weekend here comes. The lunar new year is coming. It is hard running a big gathering the lunar new year's coming yes comes in february this year. That's chinese new year. Chinese price celebrating other parts of the world besides china. It's a big issue over there because a lot of people travel for like a couple of weeks during the lunar year lasts like a week or sure. They did that when the wuhan yes. You're right epidemic was happening right now. Shutdown trains and stuff. They did all this. But the world health organization is in wuhan and they're going to get to the bottom of how that virus started lab that land. I can't i can't wait for that report. I'm sure it will be comprehensive and truthful now on the vaccine front the astrazeneca. We don't talk much about that vaccine. Well says here. John in britain is one from oxford. John has the russian one the sputnik v and. I got that in the lobby months ago. That's why i've been so healthy. It's twice comes to work every day and sits in that disgusting room. It's where drop it in there. What kind of droplets is there's nobody here. Well janssen here. They're both in their before. Yeah garrison here. I think the morning people some of them were in there. Yeah but handle isn't right but the other people are anyway. First of all this is i. Think a bit of a misconception. That people have about some of the vaccines. I don't know that you do john a lot of them. Are there to prevent you from falling seriously ill right not contracting cove. But from seriously ill from it. That's supposed to be because it's supposed to spur your immune system Now they think the astra zeneca vaccine and this was a question that came up months ago. We were talking about this. It's possible that it does not. It reduces transmission of the virus so in other words if you've been given the astra zeneca covid nineteen vaccine number. One you may not fall seriously ill and it's possible you may not pass it on and they believe even after a single dose you can get pretty strong protection for at least three months just from one dose so maybe i'm lining up for that one if i can. We don't have that. That sounds like it's a good what you know what i read this week. I think we've talked about this on the air but They were talking about side effects like a friend of mine got the first dose and he said the next day felt very slightly dinged. He said it was like having one extra glass of wine. That kind of thing a little tired and it went away but Works is. Is you get the antibodies building up after the first injection. And maybe you get a mild side effect the next day. Maybe you don't but if you take the second dose they're finding that people are more likely to get the side effects like if you're going to get them that's when you might get a temporary fever in the i'm also hearing from reading and the reason for this is the first dose creates. The original set of antibodies right. The second dose wakes up the backup system. The second line of defense known as the t. cells. They they show up to kill if a virus gets past the first line of defense the second line of defense wipes out the virus so with the second dose the second line of defense. The t. cells are going wait a second. Did we kill these people a month ago and so they go crazy because they're having a much stronger reaction to because they don't understand why we've all we've already memorized the genetic code here. We've already identified this enemy. We always already dispatched the enemy. What what are they doing back. So that's why you have worse side effects and The the the side effects are actually sign that the vaccines working. It's a good thing to have side effects beings now your immune system is fully stimulated and fighting the invader even though it's a fake invader your system thinks it's a real invader because when you get sick. The symptoms are from your immune system reacting to the invader so embrace the side effects. When we come back. The city of long beach government went after the big corporate monster. The grocery stores mandating hero wages. An increase of four dollars an hour in pay. Well the response from kroger was saying we're gonna have to close a couple of stores so that has led to a big blowback anger bor- anger at the big corporate grocery store giant. And a plea to please not do that. Corporate carson's covering the story is coming up next. John and ken show. Kfi john and ken charge kobylt ken. Chiampou kfi am six forty live everywhere on the iheartradio app huh. Well woke politicians up down the state. And i guess around the country decided one thing they can do is get a pay increase for the grocery store workers. Some call it hero wages sierras. La pretty hero wages. I'd love that. That's that's the biggest bulletproof right. You disagree with it because then you're disrespecting heroes terms that are being used nice relative Phrase they gave up. They're on the frontlines. Yeah they put their life on the line every day. That little shield is all they have a little overdone from your viral load. I think plexiglass is pretty effective. They only were masks to. Yeah and they wearing masks. I the way i know. We're masks shields to you. I was wearing eight masks today. They want ice shields. Now i sh- because the virus can get in your eyes. What about your ear hole. It's looking for a mucous membrane. When i get my nails done. I keep my sunglasses on this. Does it surprise me. I do and i have my mask just in case and a helmet. I don't have a help. You know the virus could get into your ears. My hair's long it covers my ears. People are dying. Don't talk about getting your nails dying. Just saying i'm just throwing it out there. God woven layer of protection. While she's talking about is you're getting her hair done this week and getting her nails done for what you don't see anybody for myself ken. It's hours on facebook exactly. I need to look good when i'm posing and posting. You're not ashamed to this. i'm not. Don't shame racist this. I am who. I am done in long beach. They handed out four dollars an hour in hero pay. Well what are the large grocery store. Companies responded immediately. And that's kroger and said well looks like we're gonna have to close a couple of host restores the long beach. That's what you get for that. They were already barely hanging on this extra four dollars an hour not good for the bottom line. So they're going to close a food for last and ralph's let's talk to corporate carson because this back and forth continues yes. How's your hair nails gordon. My nails are great. I mean it really shiny right now really taking care of them. Yeah no for you know. The they're a little dirty. I need to do better. But yeah so a lotta people down at this Food for less. It's off of south street in cherry avenue There has been a lot of pushback because as you mentioned kroger decided it's closing two of its underperforming stores. They say it's because of the city's council's vote last month at mandates large grocers pay employees an extra four bucks an hour. It's four months. It's a temporary thing. They've called it hazard pay. They called hero pay and this because they're saying because these workers have to work during the pandemic they're taking risks they're risking their families Again this is the food for less off of south south and cherry. The other one is a ralph's off of Wardlow and palo verde and listen. A lot of people spoke today. We heard from the mayor who talked about how this is a wave of things that are happening l. a. passed a similar ordinance san jose oakland montebello pomona or all either considering passing some sort of four or five dollar hero. Pay and right now you know. We heard from one of the workers. This guy is Grocery worker robert gonzales. Been there quite a while. And he said it's devastating for the community workman's company the frozen food for twenty six years. It's been half my life since. I work for this company and it's been devastating. I got the news monday. They wanna shut the store down all the hard work i've done to feed the needy families and everything and risk my life and my family's lives at home and they don't wanna pay four dollars an hour for four months and then it's over that is so wrong and evil and i pray that they keep the store open knowledge for my sake before the people that live here. They need to store to be opened. And that was kind of the the message that we were hearing from the people out there today to apply a little public pressure on the bigness restored company to shame it into keeping the doors open. I sing has has kroger Released any financial statements to prove that these stores were a losing forming underperforming that this throws them into so much red ink. They'll they can't survive is true. No we haven't seen that Kroger's is saying that they're not backing down there saying that you know basically. They're saddened that the associates and komo customers will be the real victims here. it's irreparable harm Because of the city of long beaches attempt to pick winners and losers like which guys are which companies have to reward their workers as essential which are not. They're calling it a misguided action. There's already been a lawsuit filed by the californian grocers association. They said it's disheartening. Because they've already invested one point three billion toward reward associates and they also mentioned that they already are there compensation for ralphs and food for less associates it averages around twenty four dollars for per hour but that including medical benefits and pensions but a lot of the soon this came out there was a lot of talk about which stores are making money. Which stores are not making money krogers. And you know we've heard from target and amazon and in several of these stores have really cleaned house during the pandemic. Because everybody's at home they're not eating out going to stores or getting their their food and that was a big argument for for this. Has anybody explained. It does seem that. Obviously the grocery stores would be more crowded and they'd be selling more food and making more money right and the prophets have gone up for kroger hitting their quarterly profits. So what is the disconnect between what we're seeing with our eyes and what kroger is claiming that is the million dollar question right now. I mean you can hear it. Also what you just got done saying you can hear from the union workers that this is a company that has made a ton of money off the pandemic. And you also you. You hear trader. Joe's increasing their hourly pay across the nation for their employees in response to this and the mayor for long beach was saying that you know this is money that was made off of the backs of these workers. Grocery stores were making this money off of the backs of these workers. And then going to your to your question about how much these stores are making. The union says. They've they say they've gone through. Some of these financials and they're looking at these. And here's ufc W union secretary secretary matt bell. He's kind of breaking down the money that croker been making we are demanding that the kroger company keep these stores open to feed the community and to do the right thing and pay the four dollar hazard. Pay this store alone. Since kobe started has had a twenty nine percent sales increase and the store down the that they're closing out at thirty one percent sales increase kroger company itself so i ninety percent profit increase and has spent one point. Four billion dollars in stock buybacks rather than giving that money to the people that have earned it. All we're asking is for justice and again we know one of the things is there's other stores that kroger has in long beach. I think five five or six. That are still going to be open. But the other argument was these two stores are in disadvantaged communities and and that that's the reason that they are being attacked and maybe that that is i mean maybe that's the argument that these stores were underperforming before cova make some sort of increase because all the stores went up because but they're saying hey we can't afford to pay these guys more and keep these struggling stories. Did you run into anybody who said well. It's not the governance business. What company pays its employees. That's a relationship between though. I was going to ask that question differently. What's the legality of this. I know you can set minimum wages. But can you really demand a store ray. Well pay well. That was that. That's what the lawsuit that we talked about last week The california association of groceries is is making. They asked for an immediate stay on long beach. Long was kind of the first ablaze. This trail as far as Demanding that there'd be ordinance requiring the four bucks an hour raise at least for the next four months and you know the judge for has already has denied the Temporary injunction so the the immediate injunction was denied. Now that doesn't mean anything they do that a lot unless there's some serious reason to To to deny that sort of injunction but that That question of whether or not the government had this is part of the government's role will be an answer not just in long beach but in all these other cities there's many cities that are considering similar ordinances huntington beach was just considering requiring the One of those grow the those delivery apps not to be able to up charge small businesses. Because they're you know they're charging thirty percent to small businesses to get them to To deliver an kind of the push back from some of the council members there was hate. Is that government's job to be in in the in the business of affecting capital got one one more thing. Then we gotta we gotta run off from what you know is is this a permanent closure and and kroger is going to clear out these stores. They're going to be empty boxes and they're gonna break their lease or they're going to sell the buildings of on it. I mean this this is at. They're just getting out for what we know april seventeenth. The stores will be closed. That is that is pretty much. What's going on there. Were there could potentially be layoffs and looked a story even said as these other cities come through. This could continue. This could be a situation that grocery stores are facing more and more as as more of the cities pass. similar ordinance. yeah. I'm wondering if this is not if this is a warning shot against all the other cities i'd go good report. Thank you all right. Thanks bye corporate carson. Kfi news covering the story of long beach. You want response by the grocery magnate. Kroger's is too close a couple of stories from the city demanded they pay the workers more than another four dollars an hour we got. We gotta take a break. But i'm going to talk more about this when we come back i i find it weird. That people think they're entitled to get a certain amount of money from a company in that they're entitled that the company care about them and that neighborhood feels the company must care about keeping a store open. Where do people get this idea from. we'll get into that because it's a it's kind of an attack on the whole capitalist. Philosophy is it pages and usually a lot of emotional manipulation to Send the message. John and ken. Kfi john and ken show john kobylt and ken chiampou kfi am six forty live everywhere on the iheartradio app of the schools. We'll have more on that coming up. After four o'clock we talk about this pediatricians group in southern california which is also saying what the cdc is saying the biden administration and gavin newsom sang. Let's get the schools reopen if all against the unions. We'll talk about it after four. Yes kroger story offenders fascinating kroger ralphs and food for less among other chains and they're publicly traded company and when you're publicly traded company the decisions you make are for the benefit of the stockholders. That's your fiduciary responsibility. You get sued if you don't generally do things in the best interest of the stock so they don't close stores randomly just to punish neighborhoods. At least you can't do too many of that You have to make a good financial decision and in america Companies have generally control over how to run their businesses obviously regulated by the government to some extent more or less depending on the industry. You're in but when it comes to pay it'll be on the minimum wage and overtime rules. The market sets the pay. And then here comes the long beach government and doing this and other government saying you know what because of the special circumstances we decide first of all they come up with a really emotionally manipulative phrase called hero. Pay right so they you cannot argue with them. Are you going to be criticizing heroes. Are you get into denying people around. The front lines outweigh the term frontlines. Isn't that a war term With soldiers were being shot at by the enemy. So now we've declared grossing. We workers behind plastic shields to be on the front lines even though most of them are too young to die from the virus even if they get it they can't do their work from home. They have to be in the store facing the customers. Yeah but they put up the shields and the wearing masks and you can help if you want. Whatever you think is going to protect you. And most of them are not getting the virus and if they're getting the virus it probably getting it from home. I've ever about helmets being used to fight it out. Face shields yes but helmets. The company has no company has an obligation to give you extra money just because there's a virus in the air. This is the inmates running the asylum. This is what this whoa crowd. Once they're tired of the capitalist system the corporations make too much money. Well we need to take them over and pay all the workers all the profit that is that is so childish who not to realize that a company. Does it have to hire you. Doesn't have to keep you and doesn't have to pay you anything. It doesn't wanna pay. No company has to do that. In what like eight year old mind. Are you still trapped in honestly that is what little kids say if he ever give it a eight year old essay questions what would you what would make a perfect world. It's like miss america questions years ago. It silliness childishness. They don't do you think the guy produce guy yellow. I put twenty six years of my life. Oh asked you so. You should have done that. If it didn't pay well but the corporate executives make millions. Why can't we have that money so become a corporate executive you haven't learned by now that's the racket that's it. That's the track to make decisions. And if the decisions are bad out they go because they're responsible to the shareholders. You said there's a lot of responsibility when you're these corporate executives this crowd that just sits there in the produce department and stacks up bananas and the oranges not a lot of responsibility there. Why you pay us commensurate. There's no. I don't care if you feel like it's hard. Work your laboring and it's physical. There's not a lot of responsibility. I guess if the rack of oranges falls down you know you go and you could be replaced up. You could be replaced by five hundred guys in a minute. And there's there's no company that's required to provide a store in your neighborhood. I the company is there in order to make a profit and selling you food. They're not required. Their mission is not to be in your neighborhood. Their mission is to make money and if they can't make money then they're going to leave and maybe they are making more money at that store. Who knows but. I think this is a warning to the other towns. Stop this hero. Pay nonsense because i. I looked at kroger stock. Today it was up two and a half percent so people like the decisions closing the long beach stories. Not hurting stockholders share all right. One of the big today is that this southern california group of pediatricians out of the american academy of pediatrics is calling for california schools to open immediately. We'll talk about it next john. And ken show. Debra mark has the news. Kfi am six forty.

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NBA Return Dates Revealed?, LeBron James Holding Practices

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NBA Return Dates Revealed?, LeBron James Holding Practices

"Bleeding purple and gold from the heart of Los Angeles. This is the Lakers nation dot com podcast with euros, driver lane. Hello everybody welcome and Trevor Lanier for Lakers nation DOT COM. We are fired up. You're getting excited about all of the rumors. Suggesting that the NBA is on its way back finally. I can't wait. We're GONNA. Talk all about that. We're GONNA talk about return dates. We're GONNA. Talk About Lebron hosting secret training sessions. We're going to talk about what the Lakers need to do. In order to win a championship all of that, and of course we're going to be taking your questions your comments as well if you're joining us from you. You facebook from periscope Amman. Toss your questions us will be taken over, and if you're listening to the podcast version of this, you're listening to us on Apple podcast on stitcher on spotify. Wherever you listen to podcasts. Thank you guys for listening to us there and make sure you do subscribe to our show and don't forget to leave us a rating. We really do appreciate it all right guys join me as always. I've got I've KRISTA masterpiece Masters Gary Sheffield Junior. Let's start with you, Chris. How're you doing man Harry will? as you guys a lot of people. No, I d all incident with my friend. Professional Wrestler Shad deaths far over the weekend. You know it was obviously devastating I. missed last Lakers nation show you know it's just. It's been a tough year. You know you go from the Kobe tragedy to this pandemic, and then we have you know. This tragedy felt a lot like the Kobe tragedy managed just You know just a horrible situation There's a child involved you know, thank God. The child's alive. That is son. God saved man. If nothing else, he's coming, you know. Rather him be your, but you know he's a hero and. I, you know I've known the guy since I was nineteen years old, I went down to Louisville. We trained for professional wrestling. Together I've known him forever. He came and moved out here to la about ten years ago to pursue acting and whatnot, and the guy just made such an impression on so many people in the La area, specifically Gold's Gym Venice I. Mean the Guy Practically lived there? He made friends all over the place. And you know it's just really nice to see the outpouring of tributes. From Iraq and you know all kinds of other people just acknowledging you know the type of character, this guy ad and you know just what a tragic loss it is and. It will be forever missed. I mean certainly our condolences are with with you and everything else. Everyone else in the the wrestling community just A. Terrible terrible thing to have like you said. It's like twenty twenty just just keeps on coming. Yeah, the the thing with the Shad News is people. Ask all the time. Would you take from if you blast that and shad? Did that I on, so that's something. He I mean he was an absolute here on his way out so Hopefully we can have more people on this earth like him and. It's obviously incredibly sad. especially as we start to turn things around, we're starting to get some dates about opening up the country and the sports world, really giving us something definitive, and it's what we needed. We needed sports to come back for a lot of people hurting right now, so sports can come back his sooner just to take our minds off things 'cause. It's a tough reality right now. Yeah, yeah I agree on it hundred percent. Chris. I know you haven't been keeping up with stuff stuff too much, but I'm assuming that you especially we'll be welcoming sports factors to kind of service that as a distraction. All absolutely I mean. We've been dying for this for months i. mean we need sports back on of just for pure entertainment and whatnot? Really what it comes down to a sports are GONNA jump start this economy. You know what I mean. You need something like that. It's such a big fraction of it, and once you get sports doing it kind of gets the wheel turning, and then something else comes back you just you need something. The jumpstart or sports is a lot more than us. Just getting off to watch games or anything like that, it's actually I think needed in the big picture. Yeah agree a hundred percent. We've talked about that before. We talked about how sports isn't. It's more than just hey. I'm kicking a ball into a net or throwing a ball through who burn or whatever right I mean it has a bigger impact on our society than than just that it's that. Is that shared experience that we gain from from sports? It's being able to root for something. I mean God we. We had a couple. Couple hundred people watching the Lakers beat the box and everybody was going nuts. I mean it's those types of experiences that bring people together you know across across borders across religions across everything it's it can be an amazing thing and so I, I can't wait. It feels like we're getting closer and closer to that that big huge bomb. That's GONNA come down. The just says were back. Yeah, and when life's going good or bad. Something we can all agree on, is Lakers basketball whether argued about which we don't want on the team who want traded or how good the team's doing. We just want to talk about it so when Lakers basketball comes back, no matter how this goes. We're all going to be watching Rog. Take our minds off of what's going on for just a second. Maybe a few hours in. It's what we need. We need some kind of release so I'm really looking forward to by the way it speaking things that we've been looking forward to this. You'RE GONNA haircut for the first time the first time like nine ten months. It's been a long time. I was planning on getting a haircut and. Lord knows who everyone's going to say I look like now, but I was planning on getting the haircut. then. This whole thing happens I'm like okay well now I can't. Do it so i. just sat around I didn't know what to do, so I had to get it done. Yeah, got it figured out of the mustaches going to yeah. I was bullied out of the Mustang. August! I miss the Mustache Man I, thought you Iraq. Insisted that. Who is the chat saying I was again. they were singer, screech yes, screech hideous I. Am Not exactly complimentary now. Yeah before I was getting Quinn Cook in one was the weekend and then the other one I can't remember who Jordan far. To him so now, so that was it so hurt screech. You're like I gotta change. Zero. Imagine going on a date. Someone says you look like him I mean. Yeah. It was gone. So, we moved on for A. Man You know what guys like I'll tell you it's been. It's been tough. Right during the cornstarch in all of that. Everything's been going on. It's been extremely difficult. Obviously right I mean tough times There was a point yesterday that we would. We've been hearing some little risk. Whispers and rivers Mark Stein two days ago had a little bit about you know. Hey, things are starting to look up and starting to get a little bit specific, and then woke tweeted yesterday, and and he said that teams are expecting guidelines for calling back. Back players at the beginning of June that means calling back players that aren't in say Los Angeles right so like Dwight Howard is in Atlanta and right now. The Lakers aren't gonNA. Tell tell him hey. Dwight hop on a plane and come back to La. They're not GonNa do that right now. Even though the training facilities open, they're expecting guidance on that coming the beginning of June, and then he added a little bit about it being as a step towards the season returning and I went. Oh, I literally ran, ran a few laps. Around my house. WHEN OKAY WE'RE! This is real. This is really happening and now today we're starting to hear real dates and I hope. They're real because it's coming from Spencer Dinwiddie the dude who tried to try to create a go fund me to figure out where his next team was going to be. While he's still under cars with his current team. I don't understand yeah I. Mean Hey, I guess credit for. It got like fifteen hundred bucks in it, which is. Something I don't. I don't get this order. What the? Starting Yeah Jeeze, but but in any event dinwiddie mentioned that he had been hearing. June twenty-first returned to practice July fifteenth. Game Start. Up Again And I mean this. Jury said Oh man that's for. That's a long way away. It feels like I said. I'm thrilled to have have been have something. At least it's not totally set, but at least have some dates in mind like that that to me is a big gives the veterans, some kind of timetable to get ready. They have they have a decent amount of time? And now that we're hearing about Lebron and the whole private workout thing he's probably GonNa. Bring a lot of the veteran. Guys the Jared Dudley to get their bodies right maybe condition, and just get up to tune because some of these guys have been sitting around. I'm sure they've been doing something especially, the older players by Lebron understands that these guys have to be healthy in if this Lakers seem healthy, that gives them obviously the best chance you. You cannot afford. It could be one injury is a game changer in a situation, so the faster these guys can get ready, and we start to hear these rumors about say a July or June fifteenth, or whatever that gives someone a timetable of exactly understanding your body. These guys know how long it takes. There's a reason jared. Dudley came out and said I need three weeks to a month. He knows his timetable. So this is good news. The Lakers are with. We can get out front of this. It's just weird, though because when like you think about it? They've almost had I. don't know exactly how long it's been, but it's almost by the time if they go back by July fifteenth, it's almost like they had a whole officers. Yeah, it might be a whole off-season. Plus what was so it was up with the second week of March. Is when they pull the plug right right was the second week of March of March April May June July yeah, we that is. That is a full season that they've that. They've had that not a normal one. Because a normal offseason, a lot of these guys are training a lot in. They're playing pickup and doing things like that. It's it makes it makes you think what is this GonNa look like I mean really. They just have to train to get ready for the playoffs. And then I guess we're going to have an off season again I mean this. Be Real interesting, because then I guess we have another offseason, right? We're not going to go right back into the season I. Just that's what turns. Turns into eventually, maybe the NBA starting on Christmas Day which we we've all said were all all four. So you know if that's what it turns into then it's fine, but my first reaction is the same as Jerry's man. What I hear July Fifteenth, I'm happy, but it also seems like a long time out and I know it isn't lifetime. We'll go buy stuff but man. I guess. Just the thirst for basketball is fat much that you know to have the way that long is still kind of driving you nuts. Yes, see for me. I feel like okay if it's June twenty-first right that they get back to practice. At least we're probably looking at the middle of June. Maybe the beginning of June that the news will start picking up that there's going to be more to discuss. It's going to give. Here's what's going to happen or this. It's already happening, right? Right, and we've, we've talked about this The teams who are out of it. They're gonNA. WanNa play right and they are going again, but they have to hit that magic seventy game number in order to keep their TV revenue, which it sounding more and more like the NBA pretty desperate for revenue at this point, and we've said you know for logistically is probably better. They stay home, but if they're going to need that money but we're going to start hearing. Okay, we're coming back. But. Steph is not playing. We're coming back. trae young's not playing. We were coming back, but. I can't think of anybody on the Knicks. Julius randle is his in Lebanon. Knox's plan right? There are going to be holding out everybody right right. They're gonNA. The teams that are play boundaries, so that's going to be like we're going to have a ton of discussion topics before of the play even starts because of just the scenario, but plus your teams holding out healthy players, because weibring him back playing for five games, or whatever is, it's Kinda tough I. Don't I don't really know I. I can't really. I can't say exactly what I would WANNA do 'cause. They're playing for no reason but they have that incentive in. In terms of money so I'm sure the owners are just going to throw out whoever they're probably gonNA bring up a Lotta D. League. Guys. That's I'm anticipating. There's a lot of D. League players by for teams like the Lakers. I'm not GonNa pay so much attention as to what those teams are doing because the conversation wasn't really about when the season was ending on. Obviously fortunately for us, we are in that conversation to be the finals winners, so when this Lakers team actually gets up and running, and we get some real dates going. Hopefully and I know they were talking about the staple center potentially being one of those hubs to play the Games when we've discussed, it does feel it does feel like that's going to be very hard. Logistically being in downtown Los Angeles, but for the Lakers in a lot of these teams that clippers. I'm not too worried about like what those teams are going to be saying about. We don't WanNA play, because if they WANNA play, their delivers all the power to them. They that's their right, and it's the owners choice ultimately. But, if you're if you're the Lakers and you're playing against, let's say the Golden, State Warriors is all G. League players that come up. And you're playing against. All of these guys are trying to make a name for themselves. Does that. Worry you at all like they're gonNA be going one hundred miles an hour, so here's Chris, here's you may remember this. This is what pops into ahead instantly, right? If, you remember from from tough enough. There was a guy named Daniel -puter. You know computer real well, okay? So, do you remember he gets in the ring with Kurt Angle right and he's got his chance to prove himself and everything, and he's an Ma find. He's trained that and that way and he puts him in a camera right and he ultimately paid, but he he could legit break his arm during that incur got pissed. Kerr was was. But you. You were there. Okay, so you know exactly what I'm talking about, but you get a young guy. That's going one hundred miles an hour because they're trying to make a name for themselves, and they're trying to do whatever they can and next thing you know. Connection Shop Yeah. Right so next thing you know though like you've got the Lakers. You've got Lebron going up against these guys that are going to be going all out trying to make a neighbor I. Don't know like that dynamic worries me a little bit. Do you get what I'm saying? Yeah I. DO I just I. Don't know if I'm as concerned as you are. Because I think a lot of these players. Yeah, they will. They'll do all that, but you know Lebron James. Being a smarter player is going to kind of know when the take you spots and guys like that are probably gonNA gas themselves out. Much quicker than you know the Lebron James at some of the players were talking about but I'm you know my actually I'm just a little bit curious though I don't know if I cop part of it. Did you say that they haven't decided about going into the playoffs or still playing out the rest of the season? What's the standing on that Riad? There's there's been. been no official. I mean there's no there's nothing is official right now. In terms of dates that but we've heard now we've heard today the fifteen, the twenty first of June the fifteenth of July to actually start so practice, and then starting playing games but yet nothing official on anything else on who would be coming back on whether they be going right into the playoffs. I'm thinking and this is kind of what the rumbling has been that there's going to be five six seven games, or whatever a team needs to hit that that seventy game number that's GonNa be shooting for. That option. That's pretty good because you got to. You have to get some. We've talked about this. Not only do they need practice? They need to have some games before the playoffs right. Because you don't want, you can't go from. You know not playing it all streets. The playoffs says just ridiculous. The products can. So you know, I think the big thing is is not feeling like you have to finish the eighty to eighty two games. That's it right so like if. You hit something like seventy. It's. And then that goes back to your argument. I guess if you only doing five games. Yeah, like the Golden State Warriors. Are GonNA bring. You know all the G. League is the sure I mean like. Why would you bring back Steph curry for five games is it doesn't make sense and you know if something physically were to happen to them. You just want to have those guys. Elsie come next season, but. It's going to be interesting by the just answer your question. I'm not too worried about these. You know not leaguers coming up and playing the veterans. It's going to be a good opportunity for them, and I'm sure they'll put. Tremendous effort, but you know I just don't think when you're competing against guys with as much experience as Lebron. James just like that. Stuff is going to factor out all. At least most of the motivation they have to play against him I. Think I'm happy about it. You're happy with. They're going to be playing out of their minds. They're playing Lebron James Anthony Davis. They have something to prove, but this can expedite them getting into championship me getting into that run getting into that that feeling of real game basketball. Because if they're playing, say the clippers, or they're playing another team and they were actually try everyone's GonNa be feeling each other out. HOW READY IS GONNA? Be, and you go four four to five games just like preseason. They're basically sleepwalking through the preseason. Barely try may be playing a quarter corner, quarter and a half. And how does how exactly does that prepare? Prepare you for a championship basketball were expecting to see really lesser basketball, but we don't want them to be jogging through this whole preseason process, and then now try to ramp it up on something in the middle ground you. Can you don't WanNa get dogged by these league. Guys, so you can. You can pump it up a little bit and get yourself ready for the postseason. I Trust Lebron James Anthony Davis Jared Dudley to understand their bodies, and how far they can go with this, so I'm not too worried. Yeah, that's a good point I mean. Look Lebron knows how to pick his. And all of that and I don't know if you saw videos. Going around to Spurs guard John Murray. Kids with knocked on. It might end up looking like that. In my little pony against against the G. League is. Not Playing Steph Curry's now. MAYBE IT'LL BE A. Point though that challenged that these guys might present will just be it'll. Just get them ready for the playoffs I. Mean I don't know why, but it. Just kind of wrote arrived reminded me one of that time. The Lakers got tested in the first round. By the okay. See I can't remember if it went six games, I think we launched run I mean. Remember they like not to say I. Mean Okay. She was a good team, but like so is in the first round, and the Lakers got tested so much at first round but I think it really kind of benefitted them. Deeper into the playoffs, because you know, they adds a battle Kevin. Durant and Westbrook ardent in that first round. Yes, so the reason, the wildcard team usually wins the world series. Is they have to get tested immediately in championship mode the other teams, the number one number two seeds. They've been waiting around with a by. They're not playing all their players. Everyone standing around waiting for the postseason, and by the time you start, you're not in that mode and the team that's been fighting for the playoffs. That's those are the teams you want. So those the guys you pick so hopefully we get somewhat of the same thing with the Lakers. I hope so I hope so. Sheldon Amancio from Youtube, said Jared Allen's the Brooklyn Nets Center tweeted today and I haven't confirmed this, but he said he tweeted I can't wait to have some truth at Disneyworld. That sounds pretty good, sounding more and more likely. Yeah, and if you saw the graphic, we used for title today. It's us at at Disney land. I believe it was that the graphic was up, but It sounded like the Disneyworld plan is what they're going to go with. It feels like that's that is the clear front runner. They're going to be at at Disneyworld the Lopez. Twins sure absolutely thrilled because they're huge huge Disney fads right, but yes sounds like it's going to be happening at at Disneyworld. That's great, but we also heard that they're going to let. Teams do little mini training camps at their own training facility and then. Then head out to Orlando's. That's probably what did what he's talking about June twenty-first. You Start Your mini training camp, and then once you finish that up. Then you up to Orlando. That's that's not bad, not like that. They're going to be opening up. Those facilities just for private workouts and everything like that it's it's better for their bodies. Get get things going, but for Disneyworld and get a press pass. Go on because I. I would love to go. Of Yeah. He's going to be disappointed. When he sees Charles, or not up and running, but but that whole thing is going to vet. Those things sounds like it would work to be honest with you if that whole entire facility to yourself, it seems like a nice. It's a big place that you can isolate. The can probably bring their families, and it seems pretty convenient so I'm actually. I'm optimistic in. In the next five to seven days that we could see something from from, Welsh would starts first race ballroom for basketball basketball because basketball is not struggling financially. They played most their season. Baseball has a collective bargaining agreement where the fifty fifty split contract. Stuff is getting messy basketball, the the tussle with cash, and how much money you're gonNA beginning that necessarily is out of the way. It's more of a health concern at this point. And SHAIMAA baseball I mean come on. They can't do anything to get it together at the commissioner. Did it together? we've got a lot of people like you're hearing. Really Yeah I appreciate it. What did you say Chris? ORLANDO, you know I've been the Orlando and like these resorts are so huge to know. You've already spoken about this. Trump I like when even universal studios. Disney I mean those are like huge chunks land. I mean you drive for miles and miles just to get from one to be other, so you know this is going to be a if they do go that route I think. Think, it's GonNa. Be a good experience is not gonNA. You know. Maybe they don't like the idea of being in a bubble, but the idea of being on a campus sounds much better right. Yeah, just call. It's it's semantics, but they call it a bubble versus the campaign against. Jared Dudley made a comment that they're actually going to let people leave the bubble which means. Not really a bubble. I guess, but then if leave, and you get something, and you come back, they're they're not gonNA. Let you come back in. So that's the risk I would have to imagine like Lebron will. Lay The smackdown on anybody that tries to do so the I heard. We're hearing now today. That Lebron has been bringing in Lakers teammates to do workouts with him like he's taking that personal responsibility victor, everybody's staying in shape I. Lo- love that for just just as a sign of how focused. These Lakers are fantastic Lebron not letting them leave. He has a title on the line thirty thirty, four thirty five years old, not a chance in the world. If you're a young dude claim cook, Cowboys Kakuma thinks he's going on a date. Whoever he thinks it's not. It's not having. I'm sorry Kyle, but instagram models, no jars, absolutely nothing and this is all business is going to be a field trip for business. So that's all this is Lebron's going to take a very serious I saw something this morning. He was saying when I saw the Jordan Doc. We've been sitting around for a while. the first thing I thought about was man I'm getting used to not playing. This is so weird 'cause the the real world's going on, but now I. Just I want to start. Start the season, because it did just made him Miss Basketball that much he said. I would play in the front yard if we could. That's how bad I wanNA play so when Lebron gets this resort and they they're basically GonNa Fratton is in that in that facility, and it's going to become really a college campus, and for tournaments, basically to be March madness, so it's going. Be a lot of fun and I. Trust those guys to get it done, and to keep it a business trip and get it done. Agreed like i. told you there when. It's going to. Go down. We're going to speak into existence. If oh wait a mailing, lavar ball. They're. Never, lost. Oh Man, yeah. That's a look I think that Lebron being that dedicated already. We've seen Chris we. We broke down his workout. look the the dedication that he showed. That's got to have trickle down effect on the rest of the team. So I'm excited I talked about this yesterday with Chris McGee from from spectrum though we brought up this point of. What's going to have the bigger impact. Is it going to be the fact that the Lakers have lost momentum and there's no getting around it right? They had all the momentum and then suddenly everything stopped, so they're going to have new movie. Is that going to be a bigger factor or is it that the Lakers being that they're veterans being that they are title contender have stayed more diligent in their workouts and more mentally focused over these last two and a half months now then other teams, so we'll that actually give them a leg up like I don't i. don't know what. You can't get the momentum back, trevor, that's the biggest thing going into this that I thought about is again. We talked about this before the momentum we had before we went into this quarantine I mean we were? We were really looking like we were ready for the playoffs. Lebron was flexing on the League. We have beaten. Are To you know again? We go back to that weekend of the bucks. Bucks and clippers. We would have been happy with one of those victories. Actually you know what we had to win the clipper game. Let me take that back. If we lost the bugs game, we would have been okay with that. As long as we beat the clippers right, but we ended up eating both of them and we were just. We were fully cooked him. So I mean to me. The biggest most hurtful thing about this from a basketball perspective is definitely the momentum that we lost, and it's not to say we can't pick up momentum again but i. just was really feeling. Good job is just it was the best I felt all season about our potential to make it all the way to the end, because I still had questions as the season went on, but I mean that we were looking real, good and sure everybody out there Laker nation obviously agrees. Yeah everything was clicking at the right time at the only player really who hadn't found his exact way was kyle. Kuzma and we have all had hoped that he would be able to do something like that but Anthony. Davis was playing. Great basketball new is playing. Great Battle Abroad essentially was taken over the narrative as the MVP, and whether he deserved it or not. That's arguable, but he was. He was fighting right up there, and he when Lebron James is playing at his best. That's what we need, the postseason, the star and unfortunately for us. US It didn't happen, so we're just going to wait and see what he can provide to us. When when the snow thing starts, Lebron was was hitting rees from the logo at half court. Yeah, that's that's the basketball we were seeing right before the the plug got kicked out of the wall and and here we are but I, just I hope that everything we've heard about the camaraderie right the fact that they've got this infamous group text with all the Lakers. Players on it. How demarcus cousins by the way still a part of that? Positive sign. Maybe he's coming back to the Seattle. It's the season, but maybe he comes back, but you've got all of these different things. Always players talking about how they genuinely like each other. They would hang out even if they weren't playing basketball and all that I hope all of that the hard work that they're putting in combines to create at least. Not as much dip as you would see from some of these other teams, because everybody's GonNa drop at least a little bit everybody. Yeah, this whole college atmosphere, this whole college atmosphere at like mentality is probably going to be embraced by the Lakers more than any other team they they seem like they genuinely like each other. It seems like Jared Dudley was the right guy to put in the lineup and and just to have him in that. That locker is a great sign. These guys seem like they text each other, and there's been teams where Lebron on I can watch and say that doesn't exactly feel right. You can tell it's everything's a little force run. His team really likes each other whether you cut somebody. They're still in the group chat. Things feel authentic, and the most authentic team is probably gonNA come on top. It just seems like this time when each each other. Yeah can't can't argue with that I. I hope that they are able to pull things off your and get it together We've got a comment here. Coming from Scott Rice facebook said so many rumors, not sure what to believe one day. It's Disney one day. It's not. Like when we're looking at all this, here's my thing right. I want to know which way the wind is blowing right? We're hearing like a few rumors, and yet like I can't look at the Spencer Dinwiddie thing him. Make a comment and say oh, there it is. There's proved the NBA is backed. That's it. Let's go, we're we're not there. Right, but if you look at everything in totality, you lookit all the states that are opening up right. You look at at sports coming back in different states, you look sports coming back around the world you consider the factors of the financial factors, everything all the little bits and pieces that we're hearing for Mark Stein from Roach Chris Haines from Shawn's all these different sources, and you put all of these puzzle pieces together. That's where you start to get more of one. One coherent narrative that hey, this is probably happening. That's that's what it is. It's not like we can just pick out one rumor and CEO clearly. This is true. Here's your peers your proof. It's the totality of all of I. think that combines to make me at this point very very optimistic that this is going to happen, so Scott I know it's a lot of rumors, and it's hard to know what to believe, but I'm just telling you from doing this for. For a long time and looking at everything it, the everything in terms of momentum is getting behind the NBA coming back. Yeah, I'm with you there in. They could be playing in Ontario, Vegas or Timbuktu. The important thing is that the fans are not going to be a part of this whole experience where they play is it's very fluid with the NBA is dealing with. They're gonNA. They're gonNA toss different different obstacles, and where we could be left and right and no. No one really understands exactly where we're going to be, but everyone has a pretty good understanding that this is probably going to get done, so that's where excitement can come in so wherever they play is really not that important. I just wanted to be safe and make sure that this doesn't get canceled. As soon as they get started so wherever they decide. I'm sure it'll be well thought out, and it will work, so I'm looking forward to an I'm very very optimistic. Yeah! Now I think I was just thinking about one other thing in terms of the momentum. you know the timing of this pandemic sucks for so many reasons, but it also sunk because again. We had the legend Kobe Bryant pass away and it really felt like. The we. So much has happened since that in a lot of this playoffs in the Lakers run was going to be devoted to Kobe. Still saying that it's not, but it's just like you know. We're just trying to even get the playoffs. Started it this way you know what I mean and it just kind of put a stop to that because I felt like the team was really rallying by also the idea of Kobe Bryant, and doing it for Kobe and again I know they can still do that, but you understand what I'm saying. Everything to just come to a dead. Stop on all that it just I mean to go to what you guys are saying now I just think you know it doesn't matter where they're gonNA play. If there isn't going to be a crowd in terms of any of that stuff, you know what I mean it could be in La could be an Orlando. I mean, but you know it's just not gonNA matter, if anything you like we were saying before. Unfortunately, fans is going to benefit the clippers more than. Anyway. Now, they put the whole thing is the whole narrative is because they were playing Kobe Bryant that was that was the horizon and me entire. The entire incident really took over the Lakers locker room. There was nothing more important going on than winning an NBA title because that's exactly what he wanted. When when Lebron came to the team, the first thing he said is you need to. To be cheering for him. You need to be supporting him because he's playing the same shield that I was playing for, he was essentially telling you drop all this all this nonsense Kobe was saying goodbye Brown and send drop all this nonsense in root for the. She'll be a Lakers fan. Support this man. We need to go to the promised land, and when something as terrible happens. The latte, the literally the number one thing Kobe would want would be for the Lakers organization. I. Would say was to win a title and to make the season for him so hopefully. The Lakers aren't gonNA. Forget that this whole incident happened, but like Chris said that was fresh. That was something that was going on. And then all of a sudden we deal with more real life issues outside we have pandemic and were sitting around for. Four months, and that that takes some steam off of it, and not that it's going to go away by. At the time when it was so fresh more, there's more energy the building. It had a different. Focus. All of our focus. And now and now, not, of course, we haven't forgotten Kobe like like you said it's a pandemic is a global pandemic. That stopped everything, so it's just human nature for us to now we've been focusing on this. Our motivations have changed. Our motivations are now just do have a up to finish the season with you know. No, no fans. I mean just everything has changed and. You know it just makes it. You know it's especially tough on the Lakers. For a number of these reasons you know I thought that they Chris McGee brought up an interesting point. From spectrum. He said that. Was Right by the way. You're Chris McGee interview I enjoy Thanksgiving's a great great great guy. wonderful love talking talking microbes with him he is, he is as real as it as it gets from seeing a views, he literally like I've from watching games with him. He is just like all of us sitting on the edge of his seat, and just like living and dying with every single play. It's amazing way. It's meant to be yeah, but but you know. He brought up that he feels like shack said. He's going. GonNa have an asterisk by their name. Because the season has been so messed up everything, right. He said that I and I think there may be some truth to this. Won't this title mean more? What this mean more to win a title this season because of everything that you've had to over this Lakers, team loses their moment of and then picks it back up restarts themselves three four months later and still win a championship overcoming another hurdle won't that may be mean even more than what we saw before. especially with the whole narrative that they becoming back and giving sports starved fans, something to see. Isn't that not destiny? The Lakers Lebron James overtook you on us. He arguably overtook John as he went on beat coli on the biggest stage. Everyone was watching those games. Then you put the whole season on is the last thing a an older and aging player would want. It's just put all the Momento just on on the on the back burner, and then they just kick. Kick things back into gear, one or two three four five games to tune up, and then they start the postseason, and they go out and win anyways. That would be the best possible thing that can happen to this organization in an I, agree with you completely it would mean more. It would mean everything that this is. This is probably the most any. Any basketball team has had to go through. Everyone's going to be going through this whole pandemic as you, but whoever comes out with this title had to deal with more and if the Lakers win, there's never been an organization to go through this path, and they'll be making documentaries about what happened in about this in this We're talking about an epidemic. Epidemic then Kobe Bryant. We're talking I mean this is just legendary stuff. If they can pull that off, so there's going to be a lot of pressure of course, but there's no asterix whatsoever. I don't know what I don't know what shacks talking about especially considering he's in this Lakers family so I didn't I don't understand it. It was on it was. I think if you get a random team to win. There might be a situation where it's the you know. The credibility is questioned about it but again. You know if one of the teams that we expected to win this thing I comes out of it I think. I kind of agree with you guys I mean it's GonNa be it might even mean more just based on the fact of what essentially you're playing for. You know what I mean. 'cause I mean. Everybody's dying to watch this because we have such limited options I mean we've been talking about for so long. We get so much attention and just has the few almost like you're playing for big is bigger purpose when so many people are out of work, and you've been granted the permission to go ahead and finish your season. You're doing the job you love to do and. And there's just something about that. That's almost kind of aerobic. Yeah, yeah, absolutely absolutely Chris. Wilson Swatch NBA finals ever. This is GonNa be I, think I think if it's Lakers clippers in western conference finals. That's going to be the most watched basketball that we've seen. It would be so if more people see you in a title. It's gotTA. Mean More Jaguar watching for no reason I've got speaking Lakers Clippers Robert Gonzales says Lebron dunked on Kawhi the Western Conference Finals Imagine how people would react at home How do you think you would react all right so? I. Don't care so much personally. I don't care so much of a Lebron dunks on Kawhi great, but I care more if the Lakers beat the clippers like that's, that would be mine being concerned now if Lebron if it's game, seven and the clock winds down and Lebron dunks required to win the game. Great Dream. Come true right. Of. Yes, I will do laps around my house or wherever wherever I'm at all. Be Screaming of sure Lakers. Fans will be doing the same thing. It will be a job like a Robert Ory for three type type moment for Motoo. It'll be like that's operation as far as Kawais reaction. The the dude hit a buzzer beater a game with game seven, the bounced in against the seventy sixers last season. And he kind of reacted. He kind of. He showed a little bit of of a Modo that that was a big reaction for that would. Come on, yeah, that was. But we know that because we watched him so as soon as you saw that yeah subtle compared to any other player, but like we knew the magnitude of his reaction, because he never does react right that so I still think for him. That was a pretty huge reaction. I do like the way he kind of busted into the squat, but while it was still bouncing around the rim so I thought that was the judge in style with that. That that was good, but I think just knowing overall right if he don't tell by Lebron he's not gonna yet. There's there's going to be no rear now. No reaction, no red, no reaction. It's he. That's the that's the style a guy he is, and I believe new balance, and all these other companies have gotten zero listen. You gotTA show us some flavor like do something. He started doing the squad on the shot in whatever he's doing. He's been giving us something so i. mean he's laughed Only guy who doesn't complain on fouls all the time. You know what I mean and I know he's a clipper everything else, but likewise not necessarily. He's not a hate, a guy or anything like that. Actually. He's pretty likable for a lot of these things I. I like kind of his subtle personality, and how he's not so oestrus all the time south, but I mean obviously he's playing on the the routine. Spurn him. For Him. He's got the Wrong Jersey on. And then there's still that resentment over how free agency played out last year where it felt like he kinda strung the orioles. just kind of put that extra pressure on the clippers and make them give up. All the picks in order to get get Paul George it even worse, and even an even worse recruits, Paul. George, who didn't even give us a beating the year before. WHO's an l.? A. Guys are both L., A. Natives, but all I can say now now. We're getting real mad at the clippers right by hey. You chose to get now. You'RE GONNA. Get booed everywhere. You go in La in your own town, which cannot feel very good you'll have. Kinda sucked for me. If everywhere, I went in. La, I just got booed by everybody. Just because I chose the team I don't know it just. I understand that I. Don't understand the decision, but at least it's going to give us some good stuff to talk about it and some good potential competition in the postseason. If nothing else, it's created a true Lakers clippers rivalry. You know that we can talk about and that people can get excited, but so there's that but this coming here coming in from Youtube Delvin Dowell, said the only sad thing. Is That L. A.? Is, not going to benefit from the ticket sales or fan participation that could bring revenue in history after this pandemic. Wilson, that's very very true very true for all the different NBA cities around the country that would be hosting playoff games, or at least these last few games. That's that's certainly the downside of all this, but I'm continuing. Just look at glasses half-full. Hey, we're getting basketball bag, but yes certainly. UNFORTUNATE, that we're not gonNA see basketball in Los Angeles. Yeah, there's no way to trove. Imagine and Derek just imagine what this. What I just thought about everything you just said obviously sucks, but imagine it would have been so so awesome to. Hear and feel the energy of the staple center crown on some of these Laker Clipper Games. You know just to hear the chance to hear the boos. Cheers on, you know I. Mean because think about it again like you know a home gay away game I mean it's always at staples center, but like you know you would. Still it would be interesting to see on a clipper home game. How much of the crowd was actually Lakers? But in a playoff situation right I mean yeah. Pretty disappointed. Man. I think they will be used to it by this point though you'd think so. It would give bomber new reason to move wherever he's taken this team. They. He's GonNa. He's GonNa be making a new. Yeah, going Inglewood gives you. You might as well expedite that because this whole idea that you're going to be playing here at Staples Center. And taking the low the all the banners down and doing things, the clippers way that suffer joke, and and that would just expedite that whole process so I'd be interested in that. If they cared about getting a real like homecourt advantage, they would've taken the team Seattle. That'd be great, I mean they but there, but these carry about profitability. Right so you stay in. That that was his choice there. Yeah, look into a bunch of different comments coming coming in here people ask you okay. So Daniel from from Youtube says will there be commentators and logos. Soon, he means like logos on the floor so first of all. Yes, There were definitely be commentators because you can do that. I mean we do that now. You may not realize it, but there are some sporting events where the commentators are not. They're not they're. They're not. They're watching on teaming. Just like you are right in. That happened especially during the World Cup which you're super familiar with. The Superintendent Yeah, but but yes you, so you can get commentators that actually there that happens sometimes not so much in the NBA, but that's what I expected to go down. That's how I think it would happen as far logo on the floor. Like are you gonNA have. Are they going to swap? In Lakers logo and everything with the Lakers play that suddenly the next game up is. The rockets are playing, and so you got to run a rockets. I kinda doubt they're going to do that just because that's. What you're and you're certainly not trading in a whole floor or Anything like that. I think live. Probably going to be just whatever logos they're. Pretty funny. I mean. I mean, it's not A. It's not a bad question it's. Think about like who's up next the rockets and role in Lawrence a waste of would. Like stickers. Now Lakers Clippers Games on the same day. Shes all those different teams than we're talking about. It's going to be multiple T. we're talking about the Lakers clippers situation, but be six or seven eight teams battled back. Yeah, there's a whole bunch of trade offs in is too much. It's pretty funny running. No we'll have. Known on that floor, bringing the other one who who said that question, because if it does happen, I will personally message them in apologize. Ignore gotta go. Find it because it's funny now you gotTa. Go find it. All finds not a bad question, because not because it would feel weird having no, no sticker. No Lakers logo 'cause I'm used to that. It'll similarly look like summer league, and that's unfortunate, but it's the best we can do. Yeah, it's all we can get see now. I gotta find that one. It's an older. It is okay Daniel. from you perfect. Jusin, I'll find Daniel on you to find me on. He can find me on twitter or something I'll I'll I personally if if the ruling the Lakers yeah I'd be. I'd be surprised. I would I would be to Okay, so if you're the comments here, willoughby be cheerleaders. I could say almost certainly. No, that's not. That's not having. You, you're barely get again like assistant coaches. Cheerleaders are making the. There's just no way then I'm not like part of the NBA's planning committee, or do they I can just say. That's not happening. Not. How the here's a good with Kevin Angeles. Would you guys be in favor of putting mannequins in the stands like in Somalia and soccer games will use a certain kind of. Did it so busy. Inflatable Mannequin was. Hours over those budgets, but what about just fake fans are you good with that? No, no, we talked about the virtual fans already I. Mean for just not GonNa add fans. No, no holograms, no stuffed people. No, no! Dolls know anything like that. Let's just either go with no fans or you do it like Know again. You've seen a W I think. A lot of people have been favor. Wa Aws done which they just put some of the wrestlers out there that aren't necessarily the main angles, and you know you have the good guys. Cheer for the good guys. You have the bad guys. The bad guys ordered basketball case obviously I don't know how you do the cheering a basketball, but you could. Actually you know what that probably won't work. It's just a completely different Completely different settings, so I just think you know if you're not gonNA have fans just there's no reason to try to supplement that somehow you know I think basketball might still be interesting. Just like UFC was, or at least you were telling me you know just hearing all the little details, but if they do the what if they do the theater lighting the way the staple center does but just make it even darker to where you can't even see into the crowd just maybe at make it a stage I'm not exactly exactly sure how, but that's. That's how they do. That's how they do. Some wrestling shows like the non televised shows. They actually blackout the old crowd, and they spotlight the ring, and even more so than the latest to Staples Center but I think what you're seeing same as complete sense that way you're just highlighting the stage, but now it becomes it becomes like a stage in theater I mean where this is. Where the spotlight is this? All the attention goes on the craft yard basketball, and and bring on the trash talking. We will be able to hear we'd. It would be amazing. Yeah I, know we talked about. Anyway I don't I. Don't know if we need the pump, or maybe just a little bit. What crowd noise can I just something, but they don't need to make it worth the Lakers make shot. They have these this radio. Go up in arms, but I think we should just let the let the chatter happen. We need to hear the trash talk if they needed to lay it some more, so they can believe out Patrick. Beverley and saying your mother. Whatever, but we would be interested in that. The FANS WANNA see of raw version of the NBA enjoyed when Lebron Block steph curry and he turns around, and he said Lord knows what, but if we actually had no crowd noise, we would understand what he said and it'd be great. That's something I'm looking forward to question coming in here. Yes, I agree I would look forward to hearing that kind of that real that real factor although. I pity. Whoever has their finger on that bleep button 'cause they'll be. They'll be using that like. Of, course you covenant Robert. Gonzales h-have coups comes back the way we expected. He should have been in the beginning of the season. What would that mean for the Lakers if we have? Prime, Kyle Kuzma the crazy bench score that we thought we were getting I would have to imagine the odds of a championship away up right? Yeah you to I. Mean You have to assume so? Right Anthony Davis in Lebron. They can probably get out of bed in about a month or so of a little tune up. They're going to be ready to go. It's what. What is Casey P GONNA. Do Casey P really started to turn it around. They were starting to play better basketball house crew, so they're playing good basketball. They were contributing. What are those guys going to do? That's really what's going to determine this, but we cow Kuzma to be even when he was his rookie year. Just that style of player with energy efficiency of. The shooting is really the shooting. They're missing. If they get that I, mean they? They're. They're good as champions as far as I'm concerned, so yeah Chris. Go ahead because I'm not really sure what these other teams are done with Kaku playing like that. No I mean it's kind of like you were saying I was just thinking to myself. I mean when it comes out to when you think of kind of prime call coups He's a scorer like just a straight up score, and he's also a you know. He's not afraid to take big shots. And he has his confidence is intact. 'cause like when cruiser was at his best. He wasn't afraid to take big shots and he would would actually hit some of them so like if we get that coups, I mean all it's GonNa do is. It's going to benefit us because it could. Coups could be kind of like a a Lou. Williams for us if he was scoring efficiently. You know what I mean. He's not going to be a ball handler granted, but you know he can have that kind of effect at least on the scoreboard You know what I was just GonNa tell you guys that was on our last topic, but you know the bench might play a big role in terms of cheering and booing actually. Actually H. You're gonNA think of it. You know what I mean I think. The NBA's should and I'm sorry I'm switching back to our last topic away from coups but I just think that the NBA should encourage all the guys on the bench, just for the sake of the crowd noise or adding some noise. Hey, just and I think they already do this anyway. We just don't hear because the large crowds, but you know the. The Lakers bench is out there. The starters are out there and they make some kind of great play. Your encourage like Jerry. You know what I mean. Yell whatever you know. Obviously Watch your language, and that will kind of simulate the effect of what I was talking about like. That's worked out well with AWA you. Elise still have some kind of participation on the outside. Some kind of joy so I think the benches should just. Just, be encouraged to really get involved and I think they want they want to anyway. They wanted share on their brothers out there. So you know that might be the solution so what we were talking about before. Sorry all no-no. Yes, good I? Think that's a good point in look when that happens, I think a lot of people who've been saying. Why is Jared Dudley on the team? They're going to see why turned down the. Evacuation what bring back Robert Sacre rate. Go Bring Back A. Junior had some pretty solid celebrations on the bench. You bring back a lot of those guys just for just for bench noise. Factor gagging. She'd of Rasheed Wallace. Although often lie. What could you imagine the Echo Baldo? Gymnasium. World Bog! Aw, the whoever's. Whatever's fingers on that bleep button would be living. She'd Wallace would be the perfect. The perfect figured he'd. He'd keep things nasty and mean he's. He's the ultimate competitor. I love that guy will. Be Great, so you have him out there. Jared Dudley the perfect. He's the perfect player for this team in this scenario, so that they could not have really a better group of guys so everyone in the Chat Lakers fan should be stoked as long as the season gets up and running. We have all the advantages we need. Of course we lost court sox. It really does, but there's nothing we can do now. In all we can do is make sure that this team in the obviously, there's nothing we can do. But I tr- we should trust these guys. The guys have track records of getting themselves ready and. And prepared so I have a humongous amount of faith in Lebron Jared Dudley Anthony Davis all these guys that I know I just mentioned jared. Dudley before Anthony Davis, but he has a gigantic role in this locker room. A bigger role than people think he makes it positive. He makes it fun and in a scenario like this where it might not be as much fun, you need guys like that. Yeah, absolutely, that's what you're going to need. That's what you need to keep. Everybody pumped up. Keep their mentality in the right spot. Mr Twenty, four from Youtube asking. Will they televise all the Games radio as well? I would have to imagine I. Mean Give It. I literally have been watching death diving. On ESPN which for those you don't know? Is this thing where you jump off a really high diving board? And you pretend like you're gonNA bellyflop until the last minute, and then you kind of Tuck into a ball, and apparently you can win points by doing this That's what's showing up on ESPN. Yes, they're going to televise these things because we are started for watching that the he called. It was interesting. One or you like soccer. Can. Get it now. I've the diving soccer. It's called diving all it is. Connection. Chart. On those were things. Do it like in Australia or something like that and I? Believe I understand. They whistle when they're Boeing. Yes, yes, that I do know. I played fica a quite a bit. That is the thing. Yeah, it's it's interesting, but yeah, they're. They should televise right. How would you not yeah? Yeah, it's it's a small Madda game, so if you'RE GONNA if they're gonNA be playing these games, especially with all the money lost TV I would assume that pretty much. Every game is going to be slotted to where you can watch. The be kind of like March madness. Joel Cosmi let's let's finish with this said. Do you think I? Think it's a good question. Do you think what championship for? Koby Would be the best accomplishment of Lebron's career. do you think that we better than Lebron beating the seventy three nine more, you're, so he's assuming that beating the seventy three and nine warriors is the best compliment of his career, and if Lebron's able to win a championship this season at thirty five years old, overcoming the corona virus, is that the biggest accomplishment of his? This is easy. and. It's funny. That shack said that he can't see how this title would count. When I look at this, this is probably the most important NBA title in NBA history that anyone's ever one in. If you can go back to the very beginning of the NBA. I can't remember a situation where. Arguably, the most important Clare in such a storied franchise could pass away the way that Kobe Bryant. Did you have a scenario that then we have a scenario where the best team in that League is put on ice as the number one seed, they lose home-court advantage. They're going to play games. Disneyworld of all places. Arguably we might be playing games and Disney world in relation. Relation to get this thing done, and they're still able to go out there and win an NBA title. When you look at what anyone's ever done, I can't imagine. Anyone's ever threw in the NBA season. More than this Lakers team would have in more than Anthony Davis Lebron James will have gone through. Because this is the worst possible circumstances they could go. Win a finals when. When you watch the two thousand two thousand one lakers. They went out, dominated the regular season like this Lakers team. They went out, dominated the first second third round, and they're like that was easy against the nets, but look at what they're going through right now. Look at this whole stretch us as regular human beings. We can feel what they're feeling right now. They're just sitting. Sitting around the can't do their jobs just like we can't do our jobs there. Obviously, they're not struggling as much as we are financially because they're not on that level, but in terms of doing their jobs than that cold right from from under you, they're dealing with all these things it's gotta be. It's gotta be the most important title, not just for Lebron before anybody. I'm not GonNa Recruiter, are you? What do you think is that? It's hard for me. It was hard for me to say an only from this. I agree with everything Gary saying, but don't know more ron personally. If it's the most important title just because and I always say that because I don't want to discredit the Cleveland, championship and kind of what I meant to clear. I believe talked about this before about how all championships sometimes maybe are created equal or or or worse, as much as another in terms of the circumstances by I think. Based on everything Gary said I think for a lot of us. I'd say we can look at this slide guy as of the importance that Gary was saying. For you, know for Lebron come out being of older, too on top of it. You know what I mean for him to be at this age and have the dead stop of due to the quarantine, and just look at all the obstacles that you over Tame I think that people like us we can. Maybe look didn't like. That's his most valuable championship. If he gets, it also lets again because of the significance it'll have it'll be you know for the Lakers franchise such a huge franchise, and then you go back to that, you know it's GonNa Tie Boston, so you know in terms of all the. Ways, the magnify it and all that stuff. Definitely probably would be the biggest. The only part I question is Lebron personally if it would be the biggest you know because Cleveland still could be that for impersonal. Yeah, maybe Cleveland would be for him personally, but from the the national discussion you look at like you, said a seventeen championship for the Lakers tying the Boston Celtics, and then think about the Lebron's Jordan discussion. Doesn't. Become closer. Yeah, right if some. Yo Lebron has another championship under his belt. Winning under these circumstances, I think you have a whole new dynamic there, too like if this is the championships that make people that makes more people say okay that tips the scale. The and this could be hugely important. Yeah, gigantic and Lebron James. We have to keep in mind he's going to have. All the stats would be better than Michael. He's probably GONNA finish. The leading score of all time near forty thousand points. He gets enough game right as long as he gets enough games, he he should get near forty thousand be the all time. Time, leading score as a really assessment can be taught, five assists, and and that's never going to be done again. His stats are going to basically make him the greatest of all time, but of course that's probably not going to be enough. And when you look at him, arguably winning, imagine him winning a title with the Lakers and he's saying okay, let three. Three, different teams I led the Cleveland Cavaliers out of destitute to title fifty two years since they wanNA title. No one else would be able to do that then it went to. The Lakers tied him with Boston in the exact same season of what happened with Kobe Bryant. He would argue then the difficulty of my championships in the circumstances that might championships came. Came in were harder than what Michael Jordan had to go through. And that's where the conversation begins so that he really has a humongous opportunity. Right here and Lebron James at least I believe I think he knows it. Let's make it happen Megan. Happen hopefully, it does I really guys. Let's wrap things up there. Chris Final. FAO thoughts anything else you. WanNa, add. Just glad to be with you guys I enjoyed it. I was GONNA. Ask you how your Marvel Chronicle Chronological order movie things go in there. You go good with that. Yeah, it's going. It's going well. I am in ironman three right now, which is not my favorite ironman movies, but but I think I'm gonNA finish watching that went up tonight and. We'll go from there. Keep making way through, but so far so good. I'll get clauses curious about that, but yeah, great show guys appreciated, and I look forward to have a good weekend and I look forward to a Monday dance Ragnarok. Thor Yeah. That's the best. It's the best movie in the whole series. Oh, I agree hundred percent win. When is that like? I've got to get there I still at so I met iron three, which is right after avengers wash I've got a little while it's towards the end, but that's all that right and wrong is also is so good, and it's my realm, so yup with you on that uneasy chats, spam and Ragnarok 'cause they better know. One by far that I love to man that when they really did something without one, it was funny. It was action funny was just rented perfectly well. Did it so well. All right so Monday's show marvel movies, and then we'll talk a little bit of Lakers. Ya. Down should. Hopefully we'll have some kind of woes bomb. Yes, I believe it I'm calling, and now we're getting something for mortgage. It might not be it, but he will do that sounds all right. Come on. Let's get it done. All right guys, thank you everybody for coming in here for for joining us with your from Youtube from facebook periscope. Thank you guys so much for all of your comments. As you know, we're always here. Mondays and Thursday nights nine PM Pacific Time. We are here again. Thank you for joining us. Make sure you do head over the Lakers. Nation DOT com tons of news up over there make sure you check that out even in these troubling times. Times. They're keeping that site up today with everything going on with the Los Angeles Lakers so go check out Lakers nation DOT com. Don't forget. Follow on social media at Chris Masters Three. One on Instagram at Chris Jonas on twitter. You can follow Gary at Gary Sheffield Junior on both twitter and instagram. You can follow me at Trevor Underscore Lane on twitter at traveling NBA on Instagram till next time, guys. Oh, yeah, by the way Monday is Memorial Day. Still. Down to do show. Chris you Memorial, day? I. Don't have anything scheduled I mean so I should be fine that. Sounds good all right guys. Memorial Day we'll do it nine o'clock Monday night. We'll see that until then guys stay safe.

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Ma The Mobster with Fat Tony

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Ma The Mobster with Fat Tony

"Right now on your will. Sarah chalk joins scott ackerman on comedy bang bang for some chalk. Talk plus meet an entrepreneur and someone from a dog rescue charity for more. Follow at ear will social media. Happy listening hey congregation lacy here to let you know that we are back. With new episodes of con- sessions on stitcher premium in confessions. We break down your listener letters with even more robbery. Ed thanks to listen. Just go to stitcher dot com slash premium. Select a monthly plan and sign up with the code scam. And you'll get a free month of listening. Not only do you get access to our bonus episodes but you'll also be able to hear every episode of scam got his ever made ad free at stitcher dot com slash premium promo code scam scam from dallas right. Yeah i'm from. I call dale why dabbling. Okay look drake wrapped. We don't fuck with dallas. Yeah we don't either ratchet out there. Okay long ratchet out in houston crazy. 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Hell you know honestly. I feel like the biggest scam is roommates and landlords and property. Because all of my best scamming moments have been from a roommate or someone claiming to be the landlord. I've been scammed out of apartments in los angeles and new york city. Damn those are the peak roommate scam cities to like what like where i landed in. La and like did all my due. Diligence like had this girl. Same me like a photo of her light. Bill and shit like majors corresponded with the address. The authorship still landed. And then as soon as i landed was coming to pick up the keys she was like okay. So actually my stank here. in the living room and we'll be in the bedroom and then you're going to be and i was like. Us signed up and none of that right. So i've had that happen was kind of that same situation would you or was it. Like in the place that exists so sakib clear. Both of these scams happened on my first time living outside of my parents house. So i didn't really know shit about getting a place in the first place right and they were both the first one was in brooklyn through some craigslist shit. Me and my boy needed a spot to stay. He got kicked out of his pockets. Him and his girl broke up me and my friend were beefing kicked out of her hobo. Sexual ex exactly. I was an artist. Me and my boy needed to get a spot. So he found a spot on craigslist and it was in brownsville. Now at the time we mostly stay in williamsburg best best. I you know what i mean. Like to adapt. Yeah we ain't going over to east new york or two brownsville very often but we found this spot we paid a deposit and we go in and pick up the keys. Now the chick who was a landlord told us to meet her at the subway. We get to the subway. We fucking waiting for hours for like two three hours. She don't show up the next day she hit us up. And it's like just come to the apartment pick up the keys and y'all can move in and like the weekend or something we pull up there at the apartment. This older gentleman answers the door. And it's like what the fuck y'all necas wont and telling him. Yo where like ren this apartment and we're trying to meet this girl we have media blah blah. He's like damn she got y'all too and we like what i yeah man. That's my stepdaughter. She has a history of Scamming people on this apartment. Y'all should go to the police. We went to the police. The cop straight laughed at us and pulled up her fucking record in like yoshida and scam this person running down a whole list like oh we used to her and where some out of town so they didn't give a fuck about us and we were just asked out of six hundred dollars and this is back in like twenty eleven when six hundred dollars was life or death for twenty two year old right. I'm starting to think that maybe the scammer like how to deal with the costs that you saw definitely stepdaddy was involved. I can cut stepdaddy talked to us for like an hour. We was kicking with him. He was consoled by the cops. Going help you get your money back in later. Years as i reflect. I'm like i think better did that. It was in on it and that probably had a schedule he was like okay. I get these these disgruntled nixon year. I give them the speech a comfortable. That'll take temperature down a little bit. I ain't gonna go online. They just don't go to the police. The police go laugh out of it. And they go on their ways. That was his whole employment. You was never gonna be bad girl older. They're going on over there and said that it was like coming here babies. Let me give you some of this black wisdom waiting for the next ten minutes to pula idaho. Some shit coming out to new york to make noise music right. He probably in like six different languages now. They come from france. He's lying all since even know. I hate to see it. I hate to hear it but you know we've all had that situation happy. I had called cops on my last roommate. We don't get into that one. No no get into it. Okay really quickly. Oh this is you know when you start off saying really quigley is going to be long as going to long and convoluted. That's the black signifier for this year. In for a very long story like real quick or like saying they gotta go in three hours later. They still out on garage talking. We get this law. God our but i am going to try to make this quick because i'm a professional long story short. I live with somebody for three years. I met her. Because i was supposed to live with my old high school friend but then we had a conversation. I realized things was a little off. 'cause i met with her one night in redondo beach and they didn't have air so they kept the windows open and they had this door that leads to the hallway where their bedrooms were saw slept on the couch. This door kept opening and closing because of the air. So i told the girl was supposed to live with my high school friend. I was like y'all last night. I was so scared because the georgia's can't move him when the breeze will come in issues like. Oh my gosh girl. The last time. That happened to me. I was so scared to. I was fucking the sky on the couch. And i thought it was my roommate coming in we with the tmi somebody on the counts when you have a bedroom and your roommate was home. This ain't even know freaky big. Because the roommate is out of town types of alcohol. he'll knock you just adventurous. She just daredevil. Now you do a obey. I'm sex positive. But if i come home after a long day and i come in and boning on my i'm gonna have issue. I'm take issue. How did you handle that. What is what is your first. Move when you walk in. And she's fucking guy on the counts. See that's hard. It depends on what time of day or night it is. if i'm gonna be a hater biz night. And i just got off my restaurant job that i used to do. Oh i'm gonna have to be loud semi long biggest hater okay. I want to put on my parking enforcement uniform. And be a bitch and i have been that guy booking notify dealing with this girl. I met with her so we. Let's get it for three years. I went away to shoot something for three months. She didn't pay rent the whole time. I came back and had a little change was like let's upgrade the apartment like let's stay here because it's such a big. It was such a big apartment especially for la and the landlord. I told him about it. He wants me. It was like deja fiction papers on about the jaw but he was called to. She already knows coming shape. Been paying and so long as your rib river. We paid individually to the landlord. Mama fucking ran from out of town. And so i had to pay all the that was owed so that i couldn't have a fiction. Victis everybody gang gang. It doesn't matter if you're a person on the lease name knows all three of our names at the time. The other girl had just moved out but it was two of us led. I was like. Let's just keep it this way. I'll pay for the extra bedroom. We can use a self tape plays you know. I'm really trying to like not move. And so i can't tell you how to get josh eight and go. But he paid all the rent. The back gray. She eventually paid me back. But i was like bro. Been talking this whole time. I was at a time. Why don't you tell me wasn't paying rent. She told me she was laid on one month. And then she said she forgot about the other two. I got about not in my entire life. I don't all right every time. I've had a roommate. Who was certainly mad late on rent like that. There's some extra shit going on in their life. What was going on her so she didn't want to work pretty much she would always have. She would have a new random job would never keep it like it. I'll put it this way. If she ever left something at home in need to bring her job. I would not know where to go. Offer no clue cutest girl. She was really nice but she just didn't want to work. It was cleared me like she always had a new different la- gig. She was telling me about or new hustler some new man and told her how about to make a rich and a star girl. Mcgraw was out here so she has but get. That's not even ho story long story short because we do get to the show right. 'cause that's weird do but this is a scam. Her mom came to visit and she was half black half white. Her mom was white. I was really upset about the whole situation. I went to vegas and this. She moved her brother into the extra bedroom. That have been paying for it. When i came back from vegas all his stuff was in the bedroom. And i was like wait a minute. Wait he moving. Sign one living. Nobody else so i get into that but the mom the mom's visiting and i want to give back. I was gonna get bug. But i wanna had a serious bombs away. Mom bug with me. I had this conversation with this. She was like. I was like he can stay for a few weeks. While i'm out of town movie by the time. I bet he got to be gone then. The next day they bind this thinking furniture they come to live. They got a drawers and shit. I was like wait. A minute drawers pillows. I thought he was there for three weeks. You'll be the dress three weeks. You live out your house. No more the board of your own flavor. It's that's a that's a takeover minutes kind of like suicide. Capital negative stories took over your whole shit. They took over home. That's when i got mad. Because i was like wait a minute. Why are he doors three weeks so i talked to her aid off. We have a private conversation. Liberal voice their want. Mama gonna come down because i was like. I don't wanna feel like you use people because this is just feeling like you know you. Just i just paid on now. You got your brother here just feels like predatory and her mom comes online dot com my user. Now i gotta white lady late yellen emmy in my home where i pay rent i pay. I pay rent so that people can't come home and yell at me. That's like the whole reason i paid. This is my one same space. I'm here. I'm by jew knob rest. It loves to a short. I call mama a. She was on the phone while they. I guess they heard me for my backroom. My mom. I wasn't even being allowed because i was like. Oh my god. These people mass they start banging on the door. This lacy wait a top. Then the brothers star beg non-drug listen to what you've changed then. The girl the roommates not big checks for you out of cash checks. And i paid you for helping me out. What are you what. And so on my. Please get away from my door. My mom's i call the police before they digging a hole in the back yard. And i was like ma. Don't be me personally. I would just start packing our just start packing a sheet loan up the car and dip. You know what i mean. Charter to the fucking game tom to get a new home right. That's exactly what happened. We broke that lease and moved. We both moved out. And i've never smoked anyway but grab roommates is a total scam. Total scam guys. Let's get to our first segment s scams autumn. Fifteen minutes. i would get out of it. Nothing no. I know some of your here for me. I know a lot of you are but that's okay so guys what's hot and fraud. That's our first segment where we worn our listeners. About a pop and scam. That's hot in the community or we'll get a letter from you guys as always if you wanna to on your friends and family or yourself. Just make sure your scammers retired. Scam got his potted gmail.com. Chasm fucking snitch haven. You welcome snitching literally every episode. I do. I want people to this but listen we do fake names. I delete the the emails that don't survive the statue of limitations because galling having to face come over here and look at my email again But you know we do the right thing for the wrong thing. So i needed a name a fake name for this person. Fake name letoya. Letoya levitt is black history month he says this was a time before smartphones when children usually played outside when the weather was nice. So my brother. And i like to bike around a local park and sometimes go. Watch the skaters at the skate park one day. We were there watching the skaters and notice that one of the guys had flipped foam down on one of the benches so if he fell while he was skating his phone wouldn't break looking back. I'm not sure why this was a thing because those flip phones were indestructible. Yes they were. And if you see anybody a flip phone in the year of our lord twenty twenty one. They sell drugs. Yo i used to love having a flip phone maybe five six years ago because you can stay out all night and that bitch would not die on you my fucking irregular as galaxy smartphones bullshit. Never tested never lasted a full nine. That's very true a flip phone cholesterol a few days. If you got stranded like you'll be good. It was great for punctuation. It's good hang up on. Somebody would've flip phone. It feels like wack we doing. The conversation is done. I slam it like. Yeah there's something. I miss about bag because now with the iphone even on the other end of the person receiving getting hung up on. It's just like do it's not. It's not as crisp. I have a really good case. So i just throw my phone. When i'm done with the conversation we just hang up and chunk that business against the wall. It's like otter box case. There's something so as you know what i mean. Okay yeah you protect it. That's my replacement. I love it so they realized that the skater boys were saying. See you later boy today phone while they were shredding. These types correct gated community. A very accurate turns. You know as a former member of the skate community. Those are very very accurate. I rollerblade i know about ali. You know that is very different skaters rollerbladers. They don't fuck with each other. they loved. I actually have seen that. When i go to the skate park the low skateboard boys do not be fucking with us. And we don't be fucking with them. Reckless and falling all over the damn place trying to escape is little boys. Don't be fucking what you currently at the skateboard. Yes yeah the children. They don't like us at the same there. We'll be there so it's the pandemic it's okay. We didn't have the penny. I go wherever. I want my kid. I'm on this last bench avenue i all year. Okay you've been on the swing set for twenty minutes. Get off lubitsch. So basically they notice that the girls are leaving their phones. Right okay so anyway. My brother and i were known to get into mischief semi often and we saw an opportunity to have some fun the way the scam was. My brother would bike around the skate. Park going off ramps and whatnot. Most skaters did not like this creating a perfect distraction. While he was biking around. I could walk up to the bench where the skater had put their phone and sit directly on top of it. Then after a few minutes. I'd get up grabbed the phone and we both walk away with the new phone. We never sold them or anything. It was more about the thrill of stealing someone else's property. Sometimes we kept the phones but most of the time we would play with them for a day or two. then throw them in the woods. Put the phone back in the park. So they could maybe find shitting in. Wow fucking savage joke. Joker should they just want the world. Throw it in the fucking woods. Not even sell. It can flip it or first of all. I'd i think that this doesn't qualify as a scam. Gary no real to. It's just straight out robbery straight out. We are still and you know also when you mentioned that she Set on the phone. Yes that very curious back in my day. We didn't just sit on phones for funny games. And i mean we were trying to get something out of it right also like you sit in on the phone like if i see somebody the last person i saw that bitch best believe i'm about to pull up to the park Hands for you. Next time i see you like. Why don't you just walk by and grabbed the phone. why like how many times can this quote unquote scam. Actually work before people catch on. I mean obviously they stole quite a bit is that they had run this scam. I'm putting that in close because this is robbery a few times until one they want skaters had chased after us asking if we had seen his phone. We swiftly denied seeing his phone and went on with our day. I started to feel kinda bad after that. So i stopped my brother. Did it a few more times. Loved the show so who who was working with him last few times. If shamed pull up who was sitting on the phones in was he sitting on the phone he probably had to go and take on the role of penguin and sit on the phone himself. Which like honestly could just been the whole scam in the first place like you. Don't need the biker distraction. I think they was having fun. I guess which bring the phone back. Why not just bring the phone back a sprinkle them around the park. You know like why got thrown in the woods right honestly he can keep this shit you can had their shabangu especially especially young. You know skater. Niggers their booty hoes. Art built like the rest of ours. You know. there's a little extra layer of moist on the cracks. From all the you know from all the athleticism of the kick flips and shit. I don't want that in. My phone is going to leak through. Did he him that that alone. Like if he just sell them the phone picked it up. Show me he said on it. That's enough of the scam. I'm just give it up. He ain't even gotta do old. Bmx and around me confused. Oh my goodness. I don't know i feel about this because it's just robbery robbery so i wanna say it was cute for y'all i'm glad you wrote in because we do say scams cons robbery and fraud but this what it is you just stole from these other children while they were having a good time in the park which is a shame on whoever the fuck wrote in this. Ain't a scam. Stop listening to this show. You obviously unqualified no. Please keep listening. I love you. I love you. They'll just scam of listeners. I love you and on that note. We'll take a quick break and we'll be back after some scam. Advertisements was pathan congregation. Guys i want to tell you about a show that you were going to love. I know i'll be talking about shows on here that you're gonna love beyond. This is by my homegirl. One of my very very good judy's mig- sydney washington. She is hilarious. She's been on our show. 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Byron's the mehta episodes are out every wednesday pretty cool. I'll right and we're back. I had to say i'm really enjoying this. Tony has like these smooth voice. Like i just know you guys are gonna love this episode blah. That should have been my intro. Honestly just that alone. It's so good. God i you know people hate women. So our voices are constantly under scrutiny. We don't house man. I never hear people like that was the people may be like. I don't like that guy but women the annoying voice thing in the podcast scene like they love to come for us. I'm like sorry voices. Are men the fellas cast hourglass sounded. Negus like it's a. It's a very whiny doubt in podcasts. Voice that's prevalent. let's attack that plea right i. I learned to randomly that lake when it comes to giving So like in the train station. There's a reason why the man's voice is where it is in the women's voices where it is so like the woman's gives information in the man's voice gives commands and that's because we are more conditioned to listen to a man telling us what to do and we're more conditioned to listen to women having facts only in the drain. So that's why you'll hear. Please stand clear the closing doors and then it'll like next step because gusty every time that i use ways of some of them like gps things. I always said it's a woman's voice. Like i don't like the nick and give me commands. I mean i. I have a big problem with authority so named yet. That only worked for me. I'm a scammer. And speaking of scams guys we've made it to historic hoodwink. So this is where. I will regale tony with famous or kahn or con artistes. And we'll get his opinions all through out. Maybe they're good. Maybe they're bad. Maybe we love them. Maybe we stand them. We'll see So today we're talking about mama barker which the name alone the flavor delicious. She was a matriarch of the barker carpets gang she oversaw commit spree of robberies kidnappings and murders that terrorized the nineteen twenties and thirties in america. Ooh okay my how we don't do the murderers over here. You could leave everybody alive. You can just take their things. So i love it. When a lady is the head of the organization fucking. She's roofless shit honestly. It takes a special kind of mom to train your sons to murder kidnap. Like you already ran down a fucking laundry list of criminal activities right literally. They did everything what i will say. This is a testimony shadow. All the moms out there who listen to this show. Especially if you were showcase avi listening which kids. And i love it. You've got to see her children for who they really are. You know what i mean. You can watch your kid to play basketball but baby. They're better picking locks. You know what. I mean you got to see to potentially your child. You know what. I'm saying a scammer mom. You know back. In middle school we used to get our bootleg movies from homeboy. Redmond's mom she had all the tapes to even have r kelly tape back in the day. Circulate hard copy of the our counts. I'm lena vhs day on there's a there's a knock at my door it's the fed's pro jail brown. I'm making a disclaimer right now. We do not support our kelly on this show. Tony doesn't either. But we are making that disclaimer right now. So you don't have on twitter okay booker. Fuck that and rempac beginning. So according to legend as a young girl saw the outlaw jesse james and his gang right through her town. Just james was an american outlaw bank and train robber and leader of the famous gang. He fame and he's and mike wild west culture in history. Which i'm about to in texas but i personally my grandma love her son paladin as good smoke. Paladin perry redneck texas family. Very like like growing up. I grew up my grandma. She wants country. Movies and tv shows day every day saying her her fucking uncle slept with a gun to the day. He died in his nineties like day on all the country rednecks shit that the rest of the country thinks is only the white folks in the south. Everybody doing right more on christmas like i. My grandma i'm you know how everybody at that ti- and blue team. That's supposed to have cookies but it never does. Yes album that bitch. Granny gun was a narrow. Say the same thing happened to me. We will clean out my grandma's room and she had a fucking little box in her walk in closet and grew up. My parents were like yo. We ain't got no no guns in the house. We don't go fuck none of that. I open a box. There's an old ask gun in there like an old. Like abe lincoln got killed with this shit. Look anti gun pump up before you sign powered. I'll should give me twenty six like break. your mom. Your mom is not to have a gun. Oh you said it was granny house you might pull the box out me and my mom clean out the room on my mom. What is she like me that you don't worry about. It might have bodies on robin stains coaches shape. We love to see yes great. That's our ancestry dot com. I love it so basically. She saw the legend has it. She saw this famous criminal as she was inspired. The event awakened her desire for adventure for life outside the law Like i said the laws are a scam. Look what just happened to forty five. He didn't get a removed from so that he can never run again. He broke off the laws so lost nearly a suggestion. I'm not saying to be a nasty man like him but you know boss. I mean this whole fucking country is built on breaking the law making laws breaking them again. I mean that's why we fucking love the outlaw. Like the outlaw the cowboy. that's the ultimate american the motherfucker that bins the rules as long as though really interesting that this lady is very attracted to the lone wolf which has long been a con in white history. And you know it is not surprising at all so in eighteen ninety two she married george e baca when he she was just nineteen their married life was spent in aurora missouri. Where there photons hermon lloyd arthur infrared. We're damn she last week. Old names harmon lloyd. Author and three hour missing his oldest and we would have really just been in a sweet spot of old man names. O heathcliff gotta have one does and earl the flavor. Okay you know he got a favor no he do for me and for you. Earl is a deacon shutout to the earls so the fbi that the couple lived on this property in missouri. As our son's older they turned to a life of crime A report by the fbi shows. George was an irresponsible father who never paid any attention to their son's education mama however defended her sons from anyone who was scolding pointing fingers at them in one thousand nine fifteen. Herman was arrested in joplin missouri. For highway robbery. How do highway robbery like you. Just get on the highway and then going fast gotta be going fast. Getting to the robbery and leaving the robbery for it to be highway right highway robbery. Do you take their car. Because it feels like. You can't rob somebody like well be all your way now and you know back no days. People couldn't travel that fast. That's should it costs more going. You know so. Is anybody really doing a highway robbery. In that era right this feels more like golf cart robbery like home and i'm like give me is yes it up fast. You can go so over. The next several years. Herman along with his three brothers began hanging out with other looms where they became members of the central park gang love gang with branding based in tulsa oklahoma in the nineteen twenties. Many future depression era outlaws came from this group Cannot get barker issue would good question because this whole time. I've just assumed she was right. No context okay. Chelsea our producer says that she is white okay was why it was the way that her son has got out of jail. And this is the twenty s and you know. The back in jail was like the tree for nick is like really gate so okay. Yeah this makes sense okay. My mom's packed into google her. She looked like she has never laughed. Has one lump in the side of her face that deceives. I've never lifted up to smile. Yes that's how you keep your skin looking fresh. She never laughs. Don't give these leagues. No joy love so basically they start hanging out with the gang game they get involved with the central park gang wish tulsa oklahoma saugus. The central park is just like the most the park in the centre because is going to be like the one park in town right. The main park i guess okay koo koo koo koo so ma would often say if the good people of this town don't like my boys than the good people know what to do what they mean. Does he eloped. We at the blinky like us. Pull up the lizzy. Yes ma withstand so in august of nineteen twenty seven the oldest son. Herman passed away in a shootout after committing a robbery and shooting the popo classic way for a scammer to die right. He went out like queen latifah. I set it off right. yes you know. I just re watts set it off to. And i love the way that queen latifah dies at the end because she's really like she's taken bullet and she's not going down she still busting to the last breath. That's the real you can push to the last breath. I feel like i want to be like. Oh put that on my tombstone. He busted last breath. People could take a lot of things about that. Tony out of context. It's true. I love it so in nineteen twenty eight. All three remaining barker brothers were incarcerated. Damn matas dot her husband around that same time and lived in the property during her son's incarceration says she say i'm home. Muslims down what i do to beat but i am gonna kick my husband out mom twenty nine hundred twenty eight. How do you kick a man. Wasn't these are the days of why i oughta like weren't they playing in violent. She knew the boss of that household. She can do whatever the fuck you want. She liked that lady from cocaine cowboys to dvd lady. She running the whole organization. We love to see it so the gang things began looking up for my barker in the spring of nineteen thirty one with fred was unexpectedly released from prison on parole. Fred bought unexpectedly by who who was not expecting to get out the haters. The law the judge may be feels like feels like he got an early release. Fred brought fellow prison inmate. Alvin is also known as old creepy. Bring old creepy which you know. Wear where he brought him with with him like like he got him out of jail to or maybe they got out at the same time and he was like creepy creepy was like. I ain't got nowhere to go. Soccer gerald creepy he brought alvin carpets aka old creepy home with him the to inform the barker carpet gang so they formed the game together and they used marshek bit in december nineteen thirty. Fred and alvin robbed department store in missouri while fleeing the scene they were accosted by a sheriff fred. Sheriff oh shoot the deputy france to share four times that right those old guns day bus slow so four. That's like that's like twenty some shots in modern times right and then they were exploded. And they were all cheap bullets and fragmented also shampoo. You can duck. You couldn't run like good. It's not like its blessing Back to back away. Share this news wrong. It went so the event kicked off a series of crimes that would escalate in seriousness to include more robbery kidnapping and unfortunately murder It's been like one hundred years so we can laugh at these murders yet. These aren't fresh but So fam- goddess we'd laugh at death. No we we actually sell ourselves as the non murder podcast. I'm gavin yelled at thirty eight minutes and you'll be like what the but you know it's time guys. It's old time so for the first time ma was officially recognized as accomplice to the gang. Okay wanted posters were posted everywhere offering one hundred dollars ward for catcher now. This is sexism. Y'all got friend who actually out here. Blessing cats but talking to put my on the poster man bullshit just straight up flagrant bush. You know i kind of wonder was the gangaw intact. This point was were mom and the son still fucking with each other. I believe at this time they were mock question is though is how many people does it take to form a gang. Jesus said before church so is three also a game. I think three definitely be gang. If the activities you know okay because it feels more like a crew you know as a crew now heard crew. Sm- i've heard people say you know you ain't a gang just glorify crew so obviously crew under gang crew is like a baby steps. You know what i mean. I i think by this point. It's definitely gang for these folks because they didn't murder dating kidnapping and rob into time. They got bodies dave. They have really done the work. That's sure we got nicknames old creepy and they have an official gang names okay in nineteen thirty two arthur in lloyd and other two cents were down locked up. They would not let out. They were released from prison in. Join fred and alvin in the game. I love it. They immediately left prison like time for crime. We gotta make up all the time we lost in jail but doing more crimes. That's what we do we do. We fucking tinto's down we in this year. Al okay first day out. We love to see it. So there's an arthur. Lloyd came out and they were like them niggers. Pray for my downfall. Yes so the gang moved to chicago. bound bound. Chicago is big gangsta city especially back in those days. Right that was wearing suits and killing you. That was different back when calling bitches abroad and shit right coming abroad also take someone showed me in a suit. That's classy are these days. They just streetwear. Get just disrespectful. You might put fish rights when you shoot me okay. That's okay with the wingtips bra. Do right so. They moved to saint paul minnesota because of the city's reputation as a safe haven for wanted criminals. Okay saint paul reputation around at saint. Paul minnesota is a risk but all criminals they sending out letters like. Hey man how we're living. There's like those posters up of me everywhere as barbies. No one cares. I love it. So fred barker hid ma in a variety of hotels and hideouts during their stay there the purpose was to keep her from learning too much about the gang's crimes as well as two separate her from their girlfriends with whom she did. Not get along with my. You ain't like other women listening. She was like you have to let these women down focused on the robbery at hit chasing skirts. Mom trying to help my geez. She made this man. You saw kick her husband out she. She was not about relationship. No not to get tied down. Ma will try to break any relationships Other women in the gang did their best to avoid her. So there were women in the gang at this point. Okay we like diversity. Washout of those glass ceilings. We love to see it was were. They getting paid Less i hope not those robberies doing some fuck re bang. It probably ain't giving him a true. It was saint paul in saint paul rather that the barker carpets gang committed. they're more infamous crimes eventually turning to from bank robberies to kidnapping under the protection and guidance of thomas brown the city's corrupt chief of police. There go you would think that you would go to a city. That's known for being a safe haven for criminals and just chill out but these niggers went and then committed their biggest crimes right. This is all criminal town outta here. You still live from your own okay. We're just supposed to scam. Other scammers is isn't there a cold right was ethics. can you believe like what does he just in. There's somebody coming house rob you like. What the hell. I just thought this man right. So right co where. In december nineteen thirty two gang robbed the third north western national bank in minneapolis. They got away with over a quarter million dollars in the twenties. I guess coin that's coined that's at least a million dollars then right so. The heist ended in a violent with police. Killing two officers the gangs reputation as a dangerous band of criminals grew next. The gang successfully kidnapped two local businesses. Name william and ham and edward bremmer. They netted one hundred thousand dollars in ransom for the abduction of william hamm in two hundred thousand dollars. Edward bremer man is. I was at where all. I'll be stunned on william only gave they only had a hundred thousand for you. Saw me at least two hundred thousand bonus for me you know the values real man as much guy. So these men were not chosen simply because of their wealth but also of their personal vendettas possibly linked to the end. Of the prohibition era oh beef. It's been when the fbi investigated the kidnapping they discover the businessman ever bremmer had many enemies does could have been anybody to everybody. Hated him okay. But it was very much disliked. Not only by his family but generally he has an uncontrollable temper very selfish and has very few friends that were so basically. How did they even get money for edward. I feel like we're probably got kidnapped. Everybody was like you know i mean. Obviously he's like a money machine so if he's out the way the money stops the focus on that that's why they gotta get him back that's why he's variable in the first place that's why even kidnap him in the first place because no one cared it'd be like fucking kill them. We don't like right. Can you imagine on phone we can. We've got your mom and you just like okay. I click again. Somebody doing us a favor wild so this is how they got people in my life that i'd love to see kidnap so they got caught. The fbi connected the barker carpets getting to the kidnapping by pulling fingerprints a new technology at the time I just robbed crime back then. No gloves rush. Man s why crime was hit back. Today right carney's to be lady bro. There's some crimes going to back in the day. That i was just like man i would have been out here doing holidays so feeling. The pressure gang los saint paul and returned to chicago. Where they tried to launder the ransom. Money january eighth nineteen thirty five. Arthur was arrested by the fbi agents in chicago. Authorities found a map belonging to author and determined that the gang members were hiding out in florida. Towns had to have a map book the part you had to have a map. You had to write it down. You couldn't just put it in the cloud back in the day right. Even though the fbi is definitely on the cloud they listen to this year right now like you close you ride on the edge with oh come. Shoot the fbi. Located the house. And confirm that ma barker and fred were on the premises special agents around the house at five thirty in the morning january sixteenth nineteen thirty five and demand that the occupant surrender. And i just want to say that this is in nineteen thirty five. Yes i'm gonna talk about. No knock warrants. Please google and see if they're still happening in your state because in nineteen thirty five they knocked on the white people's door and they brought them out and in twenty twenty we shooting through people's windows and is bullshit. Okay now my friend and killed all types of police. The sheriff deputy. Everybody so i'm just saying you know if you want to pull over. If you consider yourself activists. Google there are no knock warrants in your state and you know think about that maybe vote against it all right guys so should israel. I mean it's very as especially as you look through these historic cases. You can see that. There's a huge disparity in house summit street and how others are treated when it comes time to making that arrest right and that's probably people got away for so long when you get treated like white people like barely like being treated like a criminal. You know what i mean. They begin the shooter's burger king. So all i'm saying. Listen you not do propaganda on his show. That's my scam. Oh that's the whole purpose. Finish it anyway right We we just want to be able to do. Crime gal do crime or maybe live like y'all live. That's actually really the purpose. I'm joking about the away. Scot-free i'm not joking about the crime. Yes so after about fifteen minutes. The command to surrender was repeated in a few minutes. Later a voice from the house could be heard saying all right go ahead. Wow you know. I was ready for the shootout. I was thinking this. Is tom star. Bussing right it's like go out of their bussing all this but listen. Maybe they didn't so the okay so they said they said all right go ahead however a few minutes later machine gunfire erupted from the house that we talking. The agents returned fire using tear gas bombs rifles machine to i guess so i guess they was. Open it up cooking it in the kitchen soon. Cars full of high school students from alica town twenty miles north. We're turning up to watch. The gunfight wail not showing up pulling y'all with gunfire heavenly of strain a. I can't even say shit. It was the thirties. Y'all were bored out. When i was in london and they had the riots. I'm putting that in quotes. Because they have guns just had bats and shit but this was in twenty ten they had these riots and so we went out in the riots and we were taking pictures about his trash campfire. And one of the police came. The bobby's and he was like whoa bobby's yup he's lays out here and we'll always a photo saying he is very dangerous out here. I was like oh. We're from america. Y'all got bad got chased me with that. Okay say we seen it bring a fifteen and might get scared right you but a bad you gotta catch me i now. We continue taking photos by the wreckage. So i understand these children. I get it so about four. Oh my god. It was a four hour gun battle. See them going slow back then. Tap on the gun to make sure that base work you know. Only take a couple of bullets time. This is like a fireworks show not like we make fireworks show self. It's got a light one other time out probably took forever gonna take three kids state out there for a whole four hours and just watch the whole thirties. What else they got to do this all time as negus probably broke they probably broke his fucking right. We ain't even got the radio so after about the four hours. The gun stop stopped from the house. The fbi ordered willie woodbury a local handyman to enter the house while wearing a bulletproof vest. Pals willy willy would hurry. What haiti even. Just bill is some beaches. I will hang early over there really those. I willey whether you find islands. You put on his house. Willie all meek and shit okay right. So agents entered the house. After woodbury announced that martin fred were both dead fred's body was found riddled with bullets. But my appear to have died from a single gunshot wound. Wow according to the fbi. Ma was found with a tommy machine gun in her friend in her hand. Ma and fred bakers bodies were first put on public display until relatives had them buried. Wow holy shit. Put on public display. Wear probably i mean i guess i could have put it in the newspapers but there were. We won't really know that we got them. That's probably a real w for the fbi k. A single bullet to my mother fucking soldier man right. She was a g. i love the. She dodged all these bullets also like mine. He wasn't looking out for frank because it looks like just got hit with bullets. Where were you hiding. Point about his ally. I've watched my hands of these kids. You know what i mean. And i've done the best. I could truly also. I just loved that like they could have walked out of the situation surrendered. Just did a big probably maybe gone down for life but they were like no we. Will we own take some with us. We will die for this. That's how you do it like a soldier. You really living a life like that you gotta go out blazing you gotta take some of them cops which you know jail the last place trying to go. They bend through that shit they done. This is it is now. Never we've we've we've been to the criminal safe haven towns weeden done some of the biggest robberies and nation's history this way to end this is our legacy day just you know turn themselves in. We wouldn't be talking about them right now. That's true my my has serve. I don't know if my husband movie made after her yet. Yeah let me play mine though. She was a white lady that all black lever to play all historical white folks all bio-pics from now on starting with this mom movie starring lacey. Hamilton was just the beginning. I'm ready i'm ready for. Thomas jefferson me as thomas. Jefferson me is. Andrew jackson need that. We need that. We need also me lazy. I'm fucking ruin for you. Fuck hollywood we need you to play this lady on need petition dot org. I need all the orcs all the petitions to chime in and make this happen all the listeners. Go out there. Educate people who the fuck ma was and get lazy this role. Thank you also. Let's do that for the crown i know. Eventually they'll have meghan markle. But i just want to be in the craft speaking modern-day english there for no apparent reason. I won't lose mother. Are you happy. And she's like hippy. And i'm again and they're like why is she here. What is the point. And that's what i want again. I just won't be there. I'm anita whole episode of you with that accent bags so much truly want to be involved and not do it. I want to be there. And i'm like what is this bitch why she here. They haven't seen this. We got today. We last william almost pat dreamt about this guy on that. No we're gonna take another break for some non scam advertisers. We'll be back with the saddest part the the show rabbi as john and we are back man. Tony you've been amazing. I just love listening to your voice. And if you love to. Tony's voice come on exotica. You can get it. Put it in your inner drums. I got a whole album full of my voice. Can you believe it telling me. Yes and guys before we let tony go which is just so hard Before i let you go into a houston. People love maze. Love made we love. Frankie beverly diane. Yes we do too okay. That's a staple of every function. It has to play and we have to line dance. And that's them's the rules and if you really wanted to get the folks who can came with it and going to dances. My anti saw me every line dance out. Maga mother used to teach line dancing classes. And 'cause i had the computer our make all the mix cds for her line dancing classes. That is how offers her brooks and dunn neon moon and all kinds of classics yet zydeco. Yes oh come on. You really talk now so nice. It's time for scammer of the week. That's our last segment of the show where we highlight a in that we deem is worthy of praise. Or maybe they're not. I don't know yet. Let's go see today. We're talking about an armed man who demands food from roscoe's after he was denied service for not wearing a mask. Roscoe's if you don't know. I'm disappointed already because this black history month and this feels like one of us route. I'm sorry else is actively trying to eat at roscoe's if you don't know roscoe's roscoe's chicken and waffles is a black owned business up to them and they serve chicken and or waffles a time of the day or of the nighttime it is Delicious the chicken is excellent. Post made them. Sometimes the chicken stays good. I was shocked. Geared to pose pose the waffle waffle. But if you pose made the chicken oh slapping dullish. So an unknown maskless man was denied service at roscoe's chicken and waffles. For not wearing his mask so he returned a gun also he left so it wasn't like he just pulled out the gun on. He left and came back mask when he came back. That's my question at least wear masks. When he came back the man showed up at the back of the pasadena restaurant and demanded all the chicken and waffles. They could give him and now see i. I just wanted to meal now. New book is picking you got building field chicken man. What's the hall like we got. We just got robbed a wall that she can waffles. That like this robbery because he's just came for what he came for. You know listen you. Cdc guidelines but if you can't i guess go to the back where he wasn't exposing many people rob the smain clearly. This man has a sense of humor. Boost this this robbery is nothing but comical. I love everything about this robbery so he ran off right at first. The restaurant staff was confused as to what he wanted. Because the cash registers were in front. Which i love for a chicken and waffles. I love my guy. You are fucking up this robbery. You don't have the money back here like we're doing get robbie on the front wayne into this. Is our first rodeo. Definitely not first robbery okay. But i'm just saying my guy like taking the ale so they're confusion the cook robert. Gonzales was in the kitchen when the suspect walked in. Robert said he comes straight toward me with a gun pointed at me and saying put all the chicken in the bag he does. He only want to cook chicken or this good supplies to like get ready. He's like no all the drum beats the ain't nobody having a chicken arm motherfucking waffle today. Bitch okay. I coulda sworn roscoe was made to order way. Don't have nothing ready. I will put it in the fire. Back here with my gun. I like it. I like an extra crispy on the outside or i'll kill you with this gun. I go so. The suspect demanded that they turn over the chicken and waffles to him right. No word on exactly what quantity of food he was able to grab but the man read off so satisfactory amount. Probably the manager angela. Prieto says he didn't take any cash he actually took chicken and before he walked out the door. He took syrup for his chicken. Ugly mad as fuck off an forget. The see i would too. I would actually be really. Oh we have a via. We have a video of the fried chicken heist okay. We are going to watch this video for you guys. This is abc. Seven if you wanna go this yourself if you're watching it's called fried chicken heist at gunpoint surveillance. Video shows the tense moments. A maskless angry customer. Robs this restaurant at gunpoint took robert gonzales kitchen when the suspect walked in straight towards me with the gun Pointing at me. And the damn. He didn't take any cash he took actually chicken and before he ran out that he will out the door. He took sir for his chicken. The story is it's hard. yeah he asks. The cashier wouldn't serve him staff at the soul food restaurant so he went to his car and came back with a gun. There was feeling scare. Cash in a she when i when i first talked her she was basically hysteric pop the trunk on them but after after i guess after a while she come down in his whole life on the gun booking sweater guy wasn't wearing street police still looking for this. They still looking for him. Wow he and they're holding a gun like the fucking terminator your love how he had the guns chilling outside in the car like soon as i soon as they didn't take off he's like all right time to get the you before you forgot your mask but you brought some guy like keep your next to your biggest come on now Also i love the he like. He definitely talked the good before you turn it against him. He wanted to know there was ammo in their new. Shoot you over the food. No money over the food only look. No one was injured and the police. He this man still at large. But this is what i will say. Though like roscoe's just like every other tragedy disliked win the gorilla grew woman who guerrilla glued. Her hair down texaco brown. Just like when test the cook got an aging. And you know she probably gonna get a book deal and all this You guys roscoe. This is a commercial. Oh yes so good. We will get robbed for book money. The food is better than money. The food is worth more than go again. Need him to get a book deal. I need him to come on scam. Goddess god i would love that. I love this man. You can are you out. It's the radio like no one will ever notice you. If you're out there roscoe man roscoe robber if you're out there reach out to us because we would love to talk to you what what. A real highlight a black man stealing chicken at the all. You really did a disservice community okay. We made so many strides martin. Luther king didn't walk in a three piece suit in the alabama son for you to do this okay but but tear up. America finish it. This is you're right though. this is your freedom. 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Lakers Trades, Free Agent Targets, NBA Draft, and More

Lakers Nation Podcast

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Lakers Trades, Free Agent Targets, NBA Draft, and More

"NBA championship belongs to the Los Angeles, Lakers game. Hello Lakers Nation, welcome and this is the Lakers Nation offseason live show. My name is Trevor lane from lakersnation.com. Make sure if you're watching over on the Lakers Nation YouTube channel, you do subscribe and don't forget to turn off notifications as well or if you're listening to the podcast version of this over on Apple podcast Spotify forever. Make sure you rate review And subscribe, we certainly appreciate it. And if you're coming in live from YouTube, Facebook Periscope, fire off your questions, and your comments, I'm going to get to a lot of them tonight. We're going to talk about Lakers trade scenarios. We'll talk a little bit about LeBron James and my his recent statements, we'll also talk a little bit about the NBA mock draft and with the Lakers could do in free agency, plenty to dive into. But let's start with his Team USA, what is happening? Losing two in a row from Nigeria and now to Australia, Australia and Nigeria too. I suppose these teams have legit NBA players on them but there is no way that a team that starts off Simeon Millard. Kevin Durant Draymond Green Bradley Beal Jayson Tatum. I mean this team should be able to just roll a ball out there and beat a team that starting how do you make a month and Joe Ingles and Matisse thybulle and right? Like good NBA players, but not Stars, not anywhere near the level of the guys, at the NBA. Has so regard or the USA has regardless of whether or not Team. USA has it all. Together, has all their plays figured out and all that. They should be able to just roll a ball out there and win fairly easily. And yet they are not accomplishing that and it's pretty easy to see that they do not have the kind of chemistry that they need right now. Can they pick it up? Or the Olympics will have to wait and see. Fortunately, these are still just exhibition games but so far doesn't look so good. They served look pretty disjointed for the moment. We'll see how they respond from here. All right, let's chat a little bit about the Lakers. There's a lot going on and I guess we'll start with this. LeBron James made a comment today about how he wants to retire as a Laker music on my ears. Maybe not a surprise. I mean, given that LeBron is thirty-six years old heading towards 37. I mean he's he probably wasn't going to go anywhere else and we knew that heading into the season, heading into his tenure, with the Lakers, when he signed that for your deal. And he's probably not going to go somewhere else, his family settled in Los Angeles, you have all the extra things that La provides, but still good to hear, still good to hear that. He wants to retire as a Laker, but what got me as he started talking about how many years she could page. Is, you know, maybe it's, maybe it's three more years, maybe it's for you more years, five more years, six seven, how many more years can LeBron, realistically play? And still be effective. I talked about this earlier tonight with with Ron government. We put out a video on the Lakers Nation YouTube channel and he was asking I was asking him that same question. How many more years can LeBron play? And I think people are writing off LeBlanc, honestly, when I look around the NBA, when I look at you know, different message, boards and things like that. But I look comments on Twitter all over the place of go over on Reddit, I see fans of other teams that see the Lakers as this team. That's odd, major downtrend. That the window is closing that they just don't have that many more opportunities to win and all, like, we're completely forgetting. That LeBron was the MVP this season, right before he got hurt. Em was the MVP. He was going to win that award. And then Solomon Hill rolled up on his ankle. And again I don't want to make it sound like we're taking anything away from Nikola jokic. She had a tremendous season but LeBron was going to win MVP. If LeBron played the rest of the season, he was winning the MVP. He was wishing it handily. In every single pull that was out there LeBron was the MVP up until the point of injury. So we're looking at it we're saying oh you know he's he's about done I wouldn't put it past him to play several more years. Now the question is, how many more years can you play at a high level? How many more years can he be mvp-caliber? And it's fair to say those days are certainly numbered but I don't think we've seen the end of Lebron in the NBA. Assuming he wants to there's some guys who once they start to slip a little bit once their powers begin to wane. They they decide you know what, I don't want to be doing this night in and night out all the treatment. I have to go through just to get my body prepared and ready to be out there on the floor. But if LeBron wants to continue playing, I think he can still play in this game for quite a while. While. All right, let me get into some of your questions and comments here. A lot of people saying we need more shooting. Yeah, look I mean whether it is via trade or free agency, number one on the Lakers list this offseason off and pretty much regardless of position is shooting. They have to find shooting. That's what they need and it wasn't just that they didn't have shooting this last season, of course, there was something, I think injuries were the. Number one reason why they got bounced out of the first round. I still believe. Anthony Davis is healthy, the Lakers are playing in the NBA Finals right now. I don't see the Phoenix Suns stopping Anthony. Name's he was the answer to life is so much of what they provided look when he was playing. The Lakers are up to one of the series. I think they were going to win that series with the healthy Anthony Davis. But that did not wind up happening. But the shooting was a problem and it rains really got magnified that in the playoffs. The shooting completely fell off a cliff, right? Mean, we kept saying all season long if they can finally get some shots to start dropping, come playoff time. They're going to be just fine. We saw a shooting slumps for a number of players Kentavious Caldwell-Pope went through a bad. One, Markieff Morris was like one for 27 at one point, shooting from 3 instead. What happened was they got to the Play-Off and completely plummeted just fell off a cliff. Kyle kuzma. Shot 17% from 3 in the playoffs kcp, the best 3-point, shooter on the team. 41% for the season 21, a 22% off top of my head. Yeah, terrible three-point shooting in the playoffs. In fact, the old there were two players who shot above their season average in the playoffs, for the Lakers to Marcus a long shot way above. He was like, sixty six percent from three, right, obviously not sustainable LeBron shot 1% above, he's 36% of the Season shot 37% the playoffs, every other player on the roster shot, well below their average come playoff time. You need guys who not only can shoot but can shoot playoff time and I thought The Lakers had some guys. Who could do that? I thought, look, Alex Caruso. He's been there. He'll knock them down. Kcp. He's been there. He'll knocks him down. Kyle kuzma. Didn't happen, though. The sun's willingly gave up three point. Shots just said, go ahead, guys. Keep shooting until you can start making them. We're not going to charge you out there. And so, the Lakers couldn't they kept shooting up and they could not make them. So, yes, shooting is a big priority on the market, whether it comes to be a trade where they're comes, be a free agency, whether it's at the center position, off whatever they need shooting, Black mamba 824 from YouTube says we need Patty Mills LMAO. You know what I kidding. Aside Patty Mills would not be about option for the Lakers. This is a veteran. He's been in the NBA for a while. He has a knack for hitting big shots. I wouldn't mind it. I mean, again, it depends on the price tag, right? The Lakers have a very, very limited amount of spending power. This offseason he's out of the market. I mean, I wouldn't mind, it would not mind going for him. Ash body from YouTube said, hey Trevor would Malik Beasley or Gary Harris, be a good option. If a buddy hield trade doesn't work out, Yeah, look, either one of those guys could be Gary Harris, he's shot, kind of abandoned him a bit. This last season, he got it got to a point where he was better as a Defender than as a shooter which isn't worth it. Really what we knew of as coming into the NBA but he's certainly I got to keep your eye on his with the Orlando Magic right now. Malik Beasley he's got some off-court issues going on but but certainly has shown. He can play very very well in a young player for the Minnesota Timberwolves. I don't know what the asking price would be. Maybe it's a little bit tough to get him right now because of some other issues, but again, Could be an option, could be an option. If you're looking for shooting, for the Lakers somewhere that you could, you could turn Somebody said, trade Trevor. Lane to CP3, does that mean for CP3 or to like you're trading me to Chris Paul, like whatever team Chris. Paul goes to, that's where I go home. Well, if it's for CP3, yes, I'll drive myself to the airport and that means Lakers get a point guard. The caliber of Chris, Paul. I will make that sacrifice for Lakers Nation. 100% off. John Thomas said, Hassan Whiteside. Yeah, look the Lakers. I do want to talk about this this Center Market, love it. I love the center bucket. I'm not saying that there's a ton of great place out there, but there's depth. There is a lot of guys out there on the market and that is great for a Lakers team that has a very limited amount of spending power. Aside from the mid-level exception, and the veteran exception. Those are the two exceptions can use because they are going to be an over the cap team. So if you're looking for guys to take less and play for you, because you're going to offer them, the veteran exception, the, which is the lowest amount you can log For them. Well and what you want the veteran-minimum what you want is a lot of depth at a position you want there to be a lot of competition at those positions that there's not that many you want to have more money than there are openings available in the NBA at the position that you need. And I think that's the case right now with the center position, somebody's going to take a veteran-minimum deal. In fact, I think multiple players are going to take the veteran-minimum. So if you're seeing what you say, hey I really wanted. And again the guys at the top are going to cost you richaun, Holmes tremendous. You're not going to get him for the veteran minimum. But if the Lakers just say, look, we need a body in there that can play 20 minutes a night for us, eat up some minutes at the center position block. Some shots, do some standard big man things. I think they're going to find somebody and it's the kind of scenario where you say, okay? We met Cody Zeller. He got a little bit more than veteran. We didn't get him. Bummer cross him off. Go to the next guy on the list. There's a lot of players at the center position that can provide those things. So, I'm really interested in the center market and seeing where the Lakers can maybe Thursday. Some money. Yeah, and that does probably mean Andre Drummond going elsewhere, he's already made comments about. Not wanting to. We said this on Instagram not wanting to take the veteran, minimum wage. It depends on what else is out there to spend on at the guard spot and the wing spots but I could see a scenario where the Lakers are not Big Spenders on the at the center position and that could get to Andre Drummond going elsewhere. I don't think Andre Drummond is as bad as everyone makes him out to be ordered. Some people do anyway. I would certainly gladly, take him back at the veteran minimum, but just given the, the Lakers wage salary constraints. I think they're going to have to play a cheap somewhere. And if I'm going to play a cheap anywhere right now, it's the center position where the Lakers are going to just going to slide a D Anthony Davids over to the 5 come playoff time anyway. Somebody said I'll take D12 back. Yeah, it's white white. Our sure he'll he'll be out there on the market, right? You could try just turning to him and say, hey Dwight, come on back, we'll take you back and you can eat up 15 to 20 minutes, A Night at Century, be that physical presence for us, and that's all we need. Oh, good question. Your Alex odeh go. And we're going NBA draft here right now. From YouTube said, would you rather draft Trae or thoughts towards a This is tough. This is we're really tough question and look if it's the kind of thing where realistically Realistically if both are on the board you're you're in good shape, right? Like if both of these guys are out there on the board right now, then you're pretty you're pretty happy and I would actually be a little bit surprised if both are there for the Lakers to pick from all right. That's that's where I'm at. I'm trying to pull up a few stats here while I'm while I'm discussing them. But God all at all. I really liked Ray Murphy. I like him a lot. I like what he brings and six, eight seven foot wingspan. He's the he is a 3 and D player through-and-through. He's a guy who can defend a guys on the perimeter. He I love the way he moves his hips very well defensively, that helps out a lot, he is His kind of similar to like a McHale bridges in my mind. Now they're not the same player, but I'm saying in terms of role, he can kind of be that I think for the Lakers and I like that he's plug-and-play, like, you can put him in a right now and the things that he does, well would translate. So, I really like that about Trey Murphy. The third, on the other hand, Chris Duarte just has that player. His shooting ability is so impressive, you could run him off a screens. I don't know that you can run framer, if you have a screens, the same way that you can part A Part a older twenty-four years old, I not the defender that I think the train Murphy can be dead. It's so close. I probably lean Tree Murphy a little bit because the defensive versatility and what I think that would offer in Frank vogel's defensive schemes month, but it's very, very close. And honestly, if the Lakers walked away with either guy coming out of the draft, I think that would be tremendous. Jorge Bravo, said from YouTube, the superjet. Thank you, said what up Trump? What up, let's play couch GM? What moves do you make? If you're pelinka at the start of free agency? Roster of top to bottom 20-second? Pick included? Oh boy. Okay, so I've gone over this a little bit on a few shows but what I'm looking for is I'm trying to figure out where guys are at and this is something that I think and I'm probably going to do a video on this pretty soon Montrezl. Harrell situation is extremely complicated for the Lakers and when I say extremely complicated, I mean his decisions pretty General opt-in opt-out but in terms of the Lakers options and how many of them depend on that decision? And when that decision comes, it makes things kind of difficult. So last year we were doing the same thing though with Jake McGee is you going to opt-in? Is you going to opt out? We didn't know. Draft day is the 29th. Friends doesn't have to make a decision till the 31st. Yeah, that's that's a tough spot to be in dead. Cuz if you're the Lakers on draft day, if traces out the end, you might want to know that so you can use his salary in a trade if he's not, you probably want to know that as well, but he might not tell you yet. We saw that would you be able to get last year? The Lakers didn't know for sure whether he was opting in opting out and that's his right? That's the players, right? But that's going to complicate things. So I'm still looking for guys, like Talen, Horton Tucker, Alex Caruso. I want to bring both of those guys back obviously, within reason, I think tht being restricted definitely helps, look the Lakers. He was sticking point in the Carlisle radial. I don't see how you can make him the sticking point to prevent you from getting Kyle Lowry and then not keep them around long-term. I think you keep him long-term you buy into the work ethic. You buy into the character, you buy into the skills that and you keep him thg hanging on to Peru. So same thing, unless somebody goes crazy. If somebody goes crazy out there and offers him like 14 million or something, well, there's got to be a Breaking Point right off because the reality is that Alex Caruso as much as we love him, he is a tremendous player in a system, okay? I'm not saying he's relying on that system, but he's a guy home. Has to be part of a team that is ready to win. He's a guy who plays at his best. When the other players around him are better than he is when he can just focus on doing the little things that is the Brilliance of his game. He puts himself in the right spot at the right time he makes hustle plays, he can he can hit some timely shots and he's a very smart cover off the ball. When the opponents attention is focused elsewhere when you're asking a screw. So to run things when you're putting the spotlight on him he isn't nearly as effective and so I think for the Lakers it's important to remember that and understand that when you're looking at how much time you spend again if it's like ten million sign me up. Yeah bring it back. Hey Dennis shooter, very complicated situation if you can find a sign-and-trade for him. Not opposed to that, especially if you can line something up to land a replacement point guard. Think there was some things that just didn't quite work with Dennis rude or not. The way we hoped you, I think he's better than some people think he is right now. I think a lot of people are down on him based on what we saw in the playoffs and I think he is a little bit better than that, but if he wants to get paid paid, I think we've seen fairly definitively that he's not a top-tier point God, and we thought that coming into the season. But he had his opportunities to prove himself if he was twenty-five million season, which is what's rumored? Twenty to twenty-five million. He had his chances moving break. If you want that money, show that you are worth that much because once you don't want to do is signed in a shorter and have it immediately be a bad contract. Now, the challenge is if you're going to lose him and if you're going to say, you know what, she can't pay that much, you want to be able to get something in return. That means finding a sign-and-trade. I think, if you can't find a sign-and-trade, you have to consider finding some way to hang on to him. And that's a very, very dead. Line to walk. Hey, if you can't come to an agreement financially, though there's some scenarios out there where the landing spots for free agent. Point guards dry up very quickly and then shredders left without a team go to. And that could bring him back from the Lakers as well. It all comes down to the number for me, which router though, if you can get them on a reasonable deal. And I'm talking about not twenty million a season and you proud bring it back and at worst, if it doesn't work out, Always treat him, right? That's that, you're it's going to be a movable contract. You go pay him 25, though that doesn't work out. You could be stuck with a negative value deal where you have to give something up in order to move him. So off the the shooter situation. Yeah. It's, it's going to be a tricky one. I think it's the biggest question of the offseason to see what happens there. As far as guys, that I'm pursuing. I saw Hassan Whiteside get mentioned earlier. Sure, that's the guy that that you can definitely look at. He would certainly come on the cheap. That's somebody that I'm that I'm looking for guys who are not going to eat up your full mid-level, cuz I don't know if you resigned Caruso, if you resign THD and if you bring back schruder you're going to be real close to. Where if you use your bid level exception and you trigger a hard cap, you're stuck. And so I think it's going to be critical for the Lakers to figure out if they can assemble a roster without triggering the hard cap. So they can continue using those veteran minimums. If the hard cap has sent a hundred forty 1 million and they're 239 and they only have 13 Ram. Spots. Filled out there doing the veteran. Minimum would take them over over the hard cap, so they can't use it. If they don't trigger the hard cat, though, by using their mid-level exception or accepting a player and assign a grade, then you could continue attic. You could take your salary up to a hundred fifty million if you wanted to just keep signing veteran-minimum guys. So that's a flexibility that I think I'd like to see the Lakers have this season that they didn't. So in life is a homerun move. I'm probably not going to trigger that hard cap. I'm going to try to find, Bargains out there. I'm going to look for Shooters. If you can find veterans, you go for it. A guy like saying Wayne, Ellington, someone like that. I do my best to bring back Ben McLemore. But again, I'm looking for guys that will take a cheap dollar amount in terms of their contract and come back and help you out there. So that's, that's my biggest plan. I'm looking for trades for Kyle kuzma, I think there might be some opportunities out there. That's probably my home run, move my most realistic move is probably to go after buddy, hield from the Sacramento Kings. It means moving the 22nd pick up. NBA draft. I think it's something I have to consider, but I also think and I've been wanting to talk about this for a minute, the Lakers with their draft pick, I'm seeing a lot of fans growing in their first round pick off, as though, it doesn't have that much value. Hey, I'm seeing some people go, the other way who are overvaluing the back and thinking that oh, just throw in the first and that gets you Damian Lillard. No. But I'm seeing a lot of people throwing it in as though, it's nothing and it's not, it has some value. Now, the draft does have that hit or miss element to it and of course the Lakers are a team that's ready to win right now. So you can say, if you're taken off project by the time, that guys ready to go? LeBron might be done anyway. So is that something you really want to do? But I can't say that there are some players out there in the draft that I think can help. Hey, Trey Murphy third being an example that can help you out in the near-term. So I don't want to look at that draft pick and say it's nothing or undervalue it in anyway because the Lakers have proven that they're pretty cool. At finding guys at that area of the draft, it's always pop. Maybe he winds up whoever they get their wines up. Being a mo Wagner. We're just doesn't quite click but you look at everybody else. They've got out. Who's my name is Jordan Clarkson? Talen, Horton Tucker Josh Hart, Thomas Bryant right? Like they found a number of guys at that point in the draft that have really helped teams. And so I am not home. I'm going to value that pick, I'm not going to look at that pic as nothing is just something to throw in as a sweetener to get a deal done. I'm going to value that pic. If I can find a way to make a move without trading that pick, I'm going to do it so I can see on a cost control contract. All right, that's my basic plan. There gave your Velasquez. Oh, I'm sorry. I missed that. Just flew past me, and it flew off my screen. I'll go back and see if I can find it Renea. Vanderbilt and said why can't NBA players restructure contracts? It's because it is not like the NFL the NBA players union is very, very strong unlike the NFL's. And so what that means is that these guys their their Union would not allow that to be put into into their agreements. There's no way because then teams would start putting pressure on players and as soon as one player did it, all right, let's say LeBron restructure his contract, you know, other teams around the NBA will be going to their stars and they would be saying, hey this guy just restructure his contract, why don't you if LeBron did it to free up some space to help us out? Why won't you do that? The NBA. They don't want that the Players Association, they certainly do not want that. So that's that's the reason why you don't see that happening, okay? And again, obviously it's something that happens in the NFL quite a bit. John Solace with a super chat from YouTube. Thank you. Hi Trevor. What are we hearing about possibility of Lonzo ball coming back. I think he fits the Lakers, you can shoot past found only twenty-three years old. So John, I agree. I think you'd be a great fit. Like if you told me right now, you can trade, just straight-up swap out sooner for Lonzo. I wage that heartbeat hundred percent. I would say, yes, let's do this. No, take backs, I would do that. Swap, Lonzo is three point. Shot has come around. I saw video today where his jumper even been adjusted even further, where it looks pretty normal at this point, or relatively normal. Anyway, remember how goofy it used to look? Now, it looks a lot better. And so, yeah, I would definitely take back plugs up all, but I don't think the Lakers are going to get him. I don't think it's going to happen because he's restricted, free agent. So, the Pelicans can match any offer you could say, maybe you can work out a sign-and-trade, but then you're triggering the hard cap by accepting a player to sign a scenario. I think there's going to be enough of other options out there on the point guard Market. Including dentist, router that I don't know if you, if you take on that negative of creating the the hard cap. You can't just go spend on them and free agency. It's not like you can offer them twenty million. The most Lakers could offer them was the mid-level exception, the Pelicans would match that in a heartbeat. So the only scenario is a sign-and-trade and I do know the Lakers have a lot of the Pelicans would want in a sign-and-trade. You can say, double sign-and-trade, Dennis Schroder to the Pelicans, really need another point guard. Do, they actually want shooter. Do they even want to speak to the Lakers anymore. There's a long to consider there. I'd say it's extremely unlikely that the Lakers get lugs off. But I do love the fit. Aniket Mohan from YouTube Trev. Can you talk about how dysfunctional the team was with everyone complaining about their roles now? So everyone, I don't know that everyone was Kyle kuzma, complained, and complained Montrezl Harrell, right? Those are the guys that have complained. Oh, Andre Drummond came back, and he said, oh, I was just messing with you, all right, he said, he was just trying to drum up interest in a rum up no pun intended, their interest in his nft that he was launching either. Andre Drummond is a marketing genius or he's lying down either I guess it doesn't matter of that much but regardless we've had a few players complain about the rules. I can't say that any of them are wrong though. That's the thing, like how kuzma his role has, literally changed every season. He's been with the Lakers so four years in the NBA each and every one his role has changed this year. It changed drastically. Not only was it all right. You're not really going to be a score anymore. Now you're going to be more of a floor space or a three indy-style wing Defender. That's what we need you to be now down and cruise much to his credit said, okay? And he his best at it. I thought he actually was. Okay, this is now playoffs notwithstanding and I thought, he'd finished the season a little bit rough, but for the most part, I thought he was dead find this season, but he was also asked to play small forward. I think about that, he went from being a power forward, his first three years to pretty much a small forward plus exclusive or the season, some massive change. So I think we can understand why Kyle kuzma would be a little bit frustrated. At the same time. Do the Lakers need, the things that he's dead. Working on, right? He's working on his ball-handling. That's great for him. Do the Lakers need him to be better. Handling, the basketball? Are there? Scenarios where they're going to ask him to do that? Maybe but maybe not, I mean let's face it LeBrons going to have the ball a lot. If they re-signed at a shorter he'll have the ball a lot. You could argue Talen horton-tucker might have the ball more than than kuzma. Well, depending on how tht develops so I don't know if that's what you really need for him. So when I look at kuzma and I look at Andre Drummond and him complaining about minutes, look drum, and also has a little bit of a grief not during the regular season 25 minutes, a game during the regular season, no way to complain there, but he was the only dnp coach the decision in the final game of the, of the playoffs. So, maybe a little bit of grief. They're Montrezl Harrell, he's minutes, evaporated is Andre, Drummond, came on board and and Montrezl Harrell, he looked like he was a lock for a big contract in March. He averaged 20 and 8, he hoped the Lakers stay afloat, 20 and 8 a.m. His minutes got caught, these guys have reason to be frustrated. Okay, so what when we talk about oh they're complaining was that bad for team chemistry? Yes. But they're also not wrong. Now, last season, the difference was everyone knew their role and everyone was willing to sacrifice whatever for Dwight and Jebel. If that meant sitting on the bench, during a whole playoffs and just being the best cheerleaders, they can be more than happy to do it because the sacrifice meant championship this season. We didn't quite see that by it and I think there's a lot of factors in that, but again. Hopefully next season they can fix these things. I do think of those guys rise pramod who's, it's very possible that none of them are Lakers next season. Very possible. Somebody said injuries are even worse for team chemistry. Yeah, but that's the other thing, right? And people will say, oh, it's just an excuse. The Lakers didn't have an opportunity to really understand how to play together with some of the frustration. We saw in exit interviews were players kept saying, look, we never got a chance to find out how good this team is. We don't know on paper, they're a championship Contender. But who knows if they would have actually been able to pull it off? We never got to really see them at full strength early in the season, they look great. And then the injuries started to pile up. Kind of rough when you don't have the full roster. I mean, we kept saying for months, we were saying. Okay. If they can get a couple of weeks before the playoffs of everybody else, they can get some chemistry, some time to gel, okay, if they can get a week before the playoffs with everybody healthy. Oh that's not going to okay. Shooters undercover protocols. Okay? If they can just hack everybody healthy for the playoffs. Oh no. That's not going to work either. Okay, LeBron still hurting with the ankle Ono, Anthony, Davis's her It was one thing after another, it's really hard to build chemistry when players are constantly shuffling in and out and people get on Frank Vogel for the rotations and you can say, Tres deserve more minutes. You could say Kyle kuzma should have had a different role. You can say all these things, right? And there's some credibility to that. I'm not saying don't criticize Frank Vogel. What I'm saying is, we also have wage understand that he didn't have a full team to play with. It's hard to ask for consistent rotations, when you don't have can players they're consistently. I think it's something we have to consider when we're looking at Frank Vogel, by the way, where is his extension? Still waiting. Haven't seen it yet. I think it's I think it's still coming but we'll see. Davis painter from YouTube. Trevor Carmelo would be such a good fit alongside LeBron and AD. It depends on whether or not he can really settle in defensively. That's odd question. Like, you know, he can score the basketball but can he make the right reads in the defensive end of the floor? Candy B, average on defense? If he can, I think the Lakers have needed some scoring punch of times can be, you could turn to him but again it's got to be a veteran-minimum deal and yeah, look if it's a veteran-minimum yeah, sign me up. No problem. The risk is zero. If you do if you're if you're not hard capped and you sign in for a veteran-minimum, you're risking nothing. So, why not? All right, somebody's asking. Okay, we'll from YouTube said, what do you think of trading ku's, treze, this year's pick? And next year's second-round pick to Portland for Macomb. Also we could offer the same in a trade sign-and-trade for corrosion. All right, so I don't have the math in front of me on my columns, contract, CJ, McCollum. Look, if you can get that you'll do it ten times out of ten. You do that instantly and you run away, but it's it look Portland's going to want more especially if they're trading with the Lakers. And here's why I I really need is this question Montrezl? Harrell has a say here because if he catches wind hey, if you opt in the Lakers going to trade you to Portland and he thinks man, I don't want to go to Portland, he's just going to opt-out, he's not going to do it, right? The Lakers need his cooperation in order to trade him, and maybe you will get that the Lakers have a great relationship with clutch sport. It's I think it's clear that Treads is not thrilled with the Lakers, but maybe because of the relationship with like sports much and the Lakers can work together to get. Tried some place, he wants to go, right? And that might not even be just him picking up the option. That could actually be him opting out and then operating a sign-and-trade with the Lakers, the Lakers can start him on a new deal at about eleven million. And that's something we talked about a while ago. A few months ago when we thought the Lakers might still want to keep him was how much they could actually give. Remember there was a point in time where we said the Lakers are not going to be able to give Treads enough wage to be bigger offers for him out there on the market again, 20, and 8 in March, and then everything fell apart. So I don't know what the offers are going to look like out there for him but perhaps Thursday world where dress opt out and he needs the Lakers help and assign a trade situation. Maybe that's something like what happens here that would have to be the hope for the Lakers. I don't see him coming back next season changes. Say Never in the NBA weird things happened but things didn't work out very well. This is not the way things ended. Anyway Taco Thunder's said the map does not match. CJ's, almost at 30 million. Thank you, appreciate that. So, in that case kuzma, trays, you're at about 23, you'd have to add in another contract there in order to make it happens. Again, who's been kcp that gets you a bit closer than maybe you're in business. But again just Portland want to trade him and if they want to trade him, do they want to train him for what the Lakers can offer? I think you've got some big questions, just making the math work. Doesn't mean the value is there for either side. Robert Gonzales. Hey, Trevor, distress, have a no-trade clause in his second year player option. So, he had a de facto, no trade clause. I call it a de facto, no trade clause. Anyway, with his one, plus one deal because the NBA until that second year, option is picked up. The NBA looks at it as a one-year deal, which means that if trades were to get traded, he would have been losing his bird rights which means he has the right to nullify a train to say. No, I don't want to be treated. Not something that we have seen come up a few times. Once he picks up that option, he no longer has that. So great example, Javale McGee had the same type of contract, a one plus. One that tries has right now. So JaVale last season, the Lakers would have needed his permission to treat him anywhere but as soon as he picked up that second year option last summer or last phone call I guess it was as soon as you picks up that second-year player option, the Lakers can now trade him now. Now he didn't have that because his bird rights would go with it. So that's the way it worked so ashamed. Tres does pick up that option for a second year at nine, point seven ish million, then he would immediately betrayed eligible. He would have no say in where he goes. That's that's the way that works. Coming from YouTube said, hatred. Can the Lakers sign Derrick Rose, Hassan Whiteside and trade for Buddy, hield while keeping Crusoe and tht? Yes. Yeah, that's that's possible. So here's how it would have to happen. Derrick Rose. You would have to sign for something less than the taxpayer mid-level exception in order to avoid triggering a hard cap, let's say you signed up for five million. Nobody take that I'm not going into that. But let's just say say he would assign Whiteside. Let's say you get him for the veteran minimum. Okay? Which then if you don't trigger the hard cap you can sign as many veterans offer contracts as you want and then trade for buddy hield. Yeah all you need to trade for buddy hield. He's gotta make a little over twenty million pounds kuzma and another contract say tries Ops in he wants to go to Sacramento dead. Set up there. Deal. That's how that would work. So yes, it is possible. I would not say that's likely but it's possible to do that. My email Trevor, we still tidal favorites based on the odds that came out today. Actually the Nets are the favorites to win next year's NBA championship, but second behind the Nets, as the most likely to win, it are indeed your Lakers. Now, if you ask me, are they the favorite? I pray. It's hard to say right now, the Lakers have so many players who are free agents. I wouldn't be able to put a number on it. Because who knows what's going to happen? This offseason, we really have to see how things play out before we figure out that out. Ricky Garcia, can the Lakers sign veteran, minimums and then use their mid-level exception or be involved in a sign-and-trade? No, no. So if okay I shouldn't say no, yes, boss. If using that mid-level exception, would not put you over a hard cap which you would trigger by signing it. Does that make sense? So if you use veteran-minimum up to a hundred thirty-eight million and the hard cap were to trigger, it is at 141. You can't then go and sign somebody using your full mid-level exception of almost ten million dollars because you trigger hard cap. It would immediately nullify that deal. So that's the way that you wouldn't be able to do that. Now if you signed a few better minimums and your salaries, let's say the equal to 120 million and then you want to go use the full mid-level and that's going to take you up to 130 and you trigger a hard cap 141. Sure you're fine. No problem there. Ryan Craig Trevor. Who's the best player? We can really realistically get at a third option. I think it might be Collin Sexton, guys, I really think that that might be the guy you go after I mean he's still young, he's in his early twenties, shot 37% from three last season. 47%, from the field. You might say he's not a super super star, right? He's not top-tier guy and that's fine. But I would really be interested if I'm the Lakers in a deal that sees me absorb Kevin Love's salary if it has if I have to and that's not something you want to do, but if it means getting Collin Sexton, I really wonder. Can he be that guy moving forward? Can he be that guy alongside Anthony Davis? It intrigues me and I'm not saying it's a smash except yes you definitely a hundred percent go all in and do this. But it's something you have to consider. And if it's not cooling section, buddy, hield, I think is another guy. Maybe Harrison Barnes. Those are some guys that you could look at Malcolm Brogdon would be tremendous if you can get it from the Pacers, which I don't know if she can. But those are that's kind of the caliber player that you're looking at a guy who's not a clear-cut star, you're not going to go get a Damian Lillard. You're not going to go get a Bradley Beal or guys like that. You don't have enough to go get those guys and you might not have enough to go. Get the guys on talking about either. It's possible somebody offers more than the Lakers can for calling sex and it's possible. Somebody offers more for buddy hield. But I think those are guys Thursday, at least within the realm of possibility. Let's see here. Spacelabs from YouTube. Hey, Trevor. Do you think tht can be a regular starter already? If he's the same as he was last season know, but that's not what I anticipated. I think we're going to see much more polished THD coming into next season. I would not write him off as a starter for next season, but I also wouldn't say it's likely, if he takes a big leap with his shooting, this off-season, if you can get up to league-average, that would be a massive leap. By the way guys, almost unheard-of to go from 28% from 3 up to about thirty-five, thirty-six percent a major league but if he can really get his game to come back around this offseason, I am not going to say it's impossible but he's got a long way to go to get there. So I would say, most likely not but I want to leave that little bit of possibility because we've seen them has already heard of working on his game. He looks tremendous and this is a kid whose trajectory is going up and going up fast. So I'm not going to say It's impossible, but I'll say it's unlikely. Gabriel Velasquez from YouTube with Super Champ. Thank you said chance of getting Myles Turner based on their assets. If they get Turner is sex and still an option, why isn't Otto Porter Jr, being discussed, okay? Chance of getting Myles Turner he's about eighteen million or so in salary and depends on what the Pacers want. You're probably talking about kuzma, something else and the pick off you could. But my question is, do you want to give up those assets at the center position? And I'm not saying this isn't about Myles Turner. Specifically, just in terms of team-building theory wage, you will do you want to spend on the center position? It's like it's becoming the equivalent of going to the NFL and asking. Do you want to spend on the running back position? My general opinion is no. So if I can allocate and I like Myles Turner a lot on my goodness, how fearsome, but the Lakers Rim protection. Be with Myles Turner and Anthony Davis on the floor together. Talk about Flyzone, but would you rather allocate resources towards the center position? Everything you'd have to give up in order to get him or would you rather chase a guard or a wing? Somebody who can really help your three point shooting? I think it's the latter that you'd rather do. If those things aren't available maybe on Myles Turner. If they get Turner, a section still an option, I don't think so. I think you're going to have to give up so many of your assets to get Turner. Probably take you out of the running for calling section, it would be great if it wouldn't, but I just can't see how long do both and why isn't Otto Porter Jr? Being discussed. We don't know what he looks like. I mean, he got hurt with the Orlando Magic. We thought he was going to have a chance to really show his stuff and then he gets hurt. It's just a guy that I would take a flyer on. Yes, if he will come for the veteran minimum. Yes, if he's getting offered more, I don't think you can risk it because the Lakers resources are so limited. You kind of, if you're gonna spend more than veteran-minimum on something, you have to know what you're getting. You can't take a big risk with that. I think he would be a great fit. I would love to see it happen and he's the kind of guy that maybe you take a gamble on the veteran-minimum, I am perfectly willing to build to burn a roster spot on him. Like if the Lakers still had their bi-annual exception, I would go that far. I would use that on them for sure, but I'm Think there's going to be some teams that might be willing to gamble a little bit more, some teams with cap space, that might say, hey, here's five million who's six million, maybe seven million just to see if they can stumble upon a three and D player. I don't know if the Lakers could take that chance. Chocolate thunder. I would rather start Alex Caruso than thda, give the choice. Alex Caruso certainly more stability than Talen, horton-tucker. I think THD has more upside and that's why I'm leaving the possibility out there. But yes, most likely if it's between the two, perusal would get the starting nod. All right. I'm looking through some stuff here. And some of you were asking me to block somebody. I did see that comment and and took care of that. And for good reason, You're not come back that person's not welcome here. Mellow Jones from Facebook said, isn't this the last year of the dang contract? Yes, that dang. Contract. This is the last year on the 5 million dollars, roughly sitting on the Lakers books off dead money. Nothing we can do to move it. Unfortunately, you can't trade it, can't do anything, anything with it. It's just five million dollars sitting there. But this is the last year, one more I will Trevor, what kind of trade package could we provide for Collin Sexton? Would it be a good idea to include Larry Nance? Jr. I would love to get Larry Nance Jr. He is let me tell you guys from interacting with him through interviews and things like that. He's a fantastic guy, right? Like he is off the court, he's a good dude. In addition to being a guy that you love watching, play out there on the floor. So I would love it. I don't think the Cavs are going to gain even know. But most likely, let's say that. And I went over this in a video earlier today on YouTube. But let's say the Cavs say, no matter what we need to package, Kevin Love, and Collin Sexton. If you want, Collin Sexton you have to take off of off our hands. Kevin Love's making about 31 million this season? That's a lot. Collin Sextons about seven together they're close to about 39 million. That's a lot. So in order to get there, you would need an algorithmic Kentavious Caldwell-Pope and you need trees to opt-in or opt-out and then participate in a sign-and-trade. So you would need friends to want to go to Cleveland. Otherwise you talking about signing in Trading tht signing and trading Alex Caruso. If I'm the Cavs I want tht, I be trying to get him. Maybe you have to include your first, it's not easy to get there, but it's just the Cavs were willing to take a package, that included kcp kuzma, a either picking up his option or signed and traded Montrezl Harrell and say, the 22nd pick. I'm doing that because I I like Collin Sexton, I think that he could really be something. And I take the chance on guys, that could be a long-term fit for the Lakers like that. What's up with this all that is another question mark for us. We don't know if Gasol is playing next season, we don't know yet and he's got time to make it look. This is guy who's been the league forever off. It should be pressure on him to decide and he's only on a two point six million dollar salary worst. Like even if you go even if you go into free agency and you still don't know, you're not sure. Okay, he's not going to change things that mature at two point six million, but we don't know if he's going to play or not, if he is sure, can keep him can keep him around. Use them off the bench as a center. I don't think you want to rely on him as, as your starter pack, but you got to wait to see what he decides first. We're going to do a couple more. And somebody asked, will Rich Paul help the Lakers again this season? I sure hope. So, I hope so update on Anthony Davis injury, based on what he said too. Did a shrewder the other day? When they both ran into each other, at the Lakers practice facility, it sounds like he's good, he's good. He's back to working out. He said he needed the time off to rest and recover, but he's good to go now. Bhavin Patel from Facebook. Drumming is selling Lakers colored nfts. I think he's staying. I noticed that as well. Everything is Lakers colors. Don't forget, Rob, pelinka used to be his agent. So there's a relationship there already. I worry. And look again. I like Andre Drummond. Pardon me, does worry though that the Lakers are going to dip into their mid-level exception, to keep him, and they're not going to be able to spend elsewhere. I'm curious to see what they've said, time and time again that they see him as a long-term peace. And again, I think drumming is better than some people give him credit. For I personally, if I'm allocating the lack of resources, though, I'm not spending on the center position. But I just something tells me that they might spend a little bit to keep drumming and we'll see. And that may not be the worst thing in the world, but I think he's good. I think he's, you know, he's young, he fits the Anthony Davis's timeline. If he goes and gets a ten million offered dollar offer somewhere, see you later, you know, more power to you, great money. Take that off her but I think the Lakers do want to keep him. We'll see what happens. Let's see here. Stephen Bradley. What is an nft? That is a completely different show. A non fungible token, what it stands for. I have not bought any nfts off personally, I haven't gotten into them or anything like that. It's what I understand is it's essentially a digital version of something that you can buy and own. For example, NBA Top Shot all that, you know, that kind of sucks. I'm not the guy to explain obviously because I don't own any of them. But it's something you can certainly use Google and find out more about Hector Gomez. What about bringing back cousins? You know what cousins was was pretty good for the Clippers, this season. When we saw in the playoffs, he made a mistake. You made a big mistake on that Jae Crowder inbound pass that. We saw that aliotti. DeAndre ayton that was a man mode. Amazing play. That was but, but like Boogie still pretty good, still pretty productive. If you wanted to come back and veterans that are minimum, sure, worth a shot. Robert Gonzales. Hey, Trevor. Do you think the Lakers should Target Bobby, Portis? I think he's probably going to get more than what the Lakers can offer. The veteran minimum, do you want to dip in your mid-level exception? Maybe but he's done pretty well Milwaukee. I think he's probably going to stay there with the Bucks. Let's see here. And like, Jimmy Lillard, I like that username from YouTube, so, Trevor, I love your videos. Anyways, can Lakers go over the cap to trade for players. Like they can go over the cap to sign off in a way in a way they can. As within reason, you have to be within a certain percentage, I believe it's 125% in order to trade. So let's say in order to make a deal work with Iran, over the cap team, and you trade away. Twenty eight million dollars in salaries and you take back 30 you're going over the cap, there you're adding on to your money but you're close enough to make the trade work the the trade parameters work so that's the way you can do that. Otherwise you can't like if you are let's say you're the next and you have $53 million cap space and the Knicks. Want you out of the goodness of their hearts. Absorb Kevin Love's Thirty million dollars and they're going to offer a protected second round pick so basically nothing wrong. Kevin Love, they can do that. They don't have to send out any salary. They can just absorb him into their cap space and everything's good. The Cavs would go wild, they would celebrate, they can do that. If you're an over the cap team, your trade has to be within a certain percentage in order to make it work. So that's the way you can go over the cap a little bit, by Taking Back slightly more money. But if it's like, you're sending out, twenty twenty, eight million, and bring back 45 million. No, you can't do that. Allen said, hey Trevor, what would be the perfect trade for the Lakers this offseason for you? For me? If the Lakers were to make a trade, I'm looking at something for buddy, hield, I'm looking for, Collin Sexton, I'm looking for a place, maybe Malcolm Brogdon, I'm trying to check two boxes at once. And in that being I'm trying to fit a need right now and I'm trying to find somebody that works for the future and I thank you both, both of those boxes were dead assured her last season, right? You got a guy who was young and fits, Anthony Davis's timeline and filled the need right now. It didn't work out the way you wanted. That's the kind of trade that I'm looking for this offseason if you can do it. So you're not going to getting a guy who's 36 and is done in a year or two, right? You're getting a guy who can still be around for the Long Haul. Davis painter. Would you rather kuzma and trez? For buddy or DeRozan. Awesome office, by the way, what? Thank you. This is actually my temporary office. If you guys go over my Instagram account, I've got a my Instagram stories right now, some pictures of the new Lakers Nation Studio that's being built right up there actually directly above us. It's being built right now should be done in a few weeks. This is so this is sort of a temporary work space for the time being but new one is being built and should be ready to go pretty soon but thank you. I tried to set it up a little bit if you guys could see some of the stuff around. It's it's not so pretty. I promise you, I've got stuff. Just stacked up waiting getting ready for the the final office to be done, but if I could pick buddy or DeRozan, I'm picking Buddy, hield. I look down, longer-term contract. I don't know. Drones a free agent. If I'm trading kuzmin tries, though, I'm going for buddy, hield, because the three-point shooting. DeRozan, is such a fit issue, buddy. Hield is also younger. He is one of the Dead. You're young players, if that makes sense because he was an older rookie coming into the NBA. So there's not a huge. Say, there's not a huge age difference between like buddy hield and Harrison Barnes. Which is should be surprising. But off, buddy hield I think is just a better fit and so that's that's where I'm going with this. If I have my pick between the two John Macario from Facebook said draft sharife Cooper trade t h, d and K C P for a legitimate Center. Sharife Cooper, I like a lot, like I don't know if I like him for the Lakers do the lack of shooting, but man, he is a wizard with the basketball. His passes are on point. Like if you can get, could you imagine if you had a running team wish Reef Cooper, a team that loves to fast-break like imagine lobs from Sharif Cooper to like Zach LaVine, right? Like if the Bulls got sharife Cooper, how amazing would that be? Like, that's a great scenario. So, I like him a lot. I don't know if I like him for the Lakers, because the lack of shooting and the lack of size. There is a world where his three-point shot, doesn't come around, and his boss doesn't come around, right? And I think it's fairly likely that he will always be some type of defensive liability because he's so small. If the three-point shot doesn't hit your, you could. Could be in trouble there but he's a very talented Pastor. Again I don't know if he's the guy gamble on. Maybe you look at him and you just say I buy if he's there at twenty-two and most box that I see don't have them be there. But like if he's there, maybe you just take a Gamble and you say, he's so good at all these other areas, you just take him, but his weaknesses, don't fit what the Lakers need right off. All right guys, let's do one more. Somebody said, Marie can shoot and defend. Yes, that's what I like out of about train Murphy. He can really do both of those things. oh, we talking Trey Murphy there. Or Jamal Murray, maybe somebody was talking about Jamal Murray and I and I got that mixed up. Any update on a tread swapped and no, and he has until the 31st to decide he has until July 31st, the NBA draft on the 29th, most likely, we roll into draft night, in a draft-night, trade talks, not knowing whether or not what dress is doing, that's possible. Now again, the clutch Good Rapport, good relationship with the Lakers. Maybe they they'll give them a little heads-up. Analog Matrix from YouTube signed man Boulevard. Yeah he was with the Orlando Magic to finish the season. I wouldn't hate to see mobeck. I liked Mo a lot. He never really got it going and then but he had some flash is. But again, if it's a veteran-minimum, take a chance on them. All right. One more on this one. What are the odds? We keep the pic so on, on the pic, I really do see it as a fifty-fifty. And I know that sounds like a cop-out wage, but for the Lakers, You've Got Away a few things here. When we're looking at this traffic, it's not just do we like the guy that's there. It's also, how do we best use this asset? Understanding of assets are lost moving forward. So if you like a guy that's there and you have a trade that's on the table that might help you, but it gets you a guy who say 35, like, I don't know, Kyle Lowry, right? But let's say you're giving up more than you would. Like you have to keep in mind that the Lakers do have some future pics that are lost and now the 2022 pick gone that goes to the Pelicans that's done that, no matter what it goes to the page twenty twenty-three, there's a pic swap, you're going to get a young player in 2023 so that helps 20-24 might go to the Pelicans but the Pelicans can make it the 2025 bottom line between 24 years 25. You're going to get one pic. You'll get one young player there but so you've missed out now in the next four seasons, three seasons, I guess on two opportunities to land on a young talent that kind of helps to bolster your roster. That's the way you have sustainability to bring in young players. You develop them and you know, if you go so that's something like yours. Have to consider, if you trade the pick this year, are you getting a guy who's one and Dawn, has one year left in the NBA? Maybe to something like that? Or are you getting a guy who's twenty-six twenty-seven? And he's going to stick around for a while. In the latter scenario, it's a little bit easier to move the pic in the former where you're getting a veteran. Let's say it's PJ Tucker. I just throw that out there because Kyle Lowry's. So talented, think that skews things. Let's say it's PJ Tucker. Who's a good friend D player but again how much longer she going to last in the NBA? That's where you really have to think is it worth giving up this pic knowing that we could draft a guy, let's say Trey Murphy's there who could be a three month Player forest for the next decade in exchange, for a guy that we know can help us next season, but we might only get next season. That's where the Lakers have to really consider move the pic. Again, though, if there's a home run, move out there. Let's say you're getting a call in section. Let's say you're getting a buddy hield somebody like that, then that kind of skews things towards trading it because you're getting a guy who's young enough, or maybe you're not going to come for a decade, but you could in theory have them for five, six, seven seasons, and maybe that's what you need. So that's the way I'm looking at Yonkers traffic situation and I think it's It's going to be interesting to see what the Lakers do on draft night. And it's gonna depend on what deals are out there. Think one thing we know for sure, out of all of this Rob pelinka, he leaves no stone unturned. He will do whatever he can to find the the best move possible for the Lakers. So would not surprise me either way. If the Lakers keep the pick or traded. All right guys, appreciate all you coming in with your questions and comments will do this again on Thursday again. 9:00 Pacific time make sure you're subscribing right here to the Lakers Nation YouTube channel. And while we're at it, subscribe to the NBA front-office YouTube channel, as well as Keith Smith have content coming out pretty much every single day. They're about the entire NBA. So we look at things from a full NBA perspective, a lot of fun, lots to talk about right now and free agency coming up plus the draft plus trades and all that. So make sure you check that out as well. Around the NBA front-office YouTube channel. So next time, see you and stay safe.

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Prof. Sarah Komisarow of Duke university and Prof. Emily Pakhtigian of Penn State University.

Scientific Sense

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Prof. Sarah Komisarow of Duke university and Prof. Emily Pakhtigian of Penn State University.

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If you have suggestions for topics guests at other ideas please send up to info at scientific sense dot com and i can be reached at gil at eappen dot info. Mike yesterday our prof. Soda cam sorrow koos assistant professor of public policy at Versity and Emily gin who is assistant professor public policy at penn state university. That comes sarah emily. I think he's having us thanksgiving is so i want to start with you. A couple of video recent peepers And one of them just came out this year on pause and osias it breath of fresh air local authority absences. You say be studied the effects of clea. Large nearly simultaneous scored His own school absences in chicago. Ba- flying the Assertiveness seven percent reduction in absenteeism. It nearly nearby schools very Related to those formative from The closure so before we get to the details of this. I just want to mention saturday navy. I spent quite a bit of time in chicago. Radio both on the north side and south side I have no conflict of interest. I used to be in the power plant sector but mostly in the nuclear power plants. So i haven't done anything in the cold. Fired power plant rena. So before we get the details of the paper so coal-fired power plant these thermal appliance that is circulating listening right. Yes that's correct in so it's sort of curious that you had ple- Clean power plants close. You say nearly simultaneously in the chicago area so he walks across a bet. yes so The three plants that closed in chicago. This was in twenty. Two of them are actually owned by the same company. They were pretty close together. The third was actually just outside of chicago in hammond. Indiana which for those familiar with the geography is is just over the border and the state border And these three plants were Sort of the subject for many years of litigation Sort of changing environmental regulation and In advance of some previously announced timelines That the parent companies that own these plants head said look. We're going to close these down in the coming years. Retire them The Our understanding is that the Parent company sort of accelerated this process due to just the increasing costs of Keeping these plants operating particularly during a time period when natural gas was becoming a cheaper and so the the companies just sort of changed their plan somewhat abruptly Include them in two thousand twelve. Should be with all owned by the same company. They were owned by two companies. One of the companies owned two plants in another owned by a second company and so they are quite close to chicago at that makes it sort of convenient for study She called it sort of school school kids. So so do you talk a bit about In scope indecisive a study Sure i'll keep going So yes to. The plans were actually located in chicago. City limits on located on the leads. The south branch of the chicago river And so It is unusual At least to our knowledge in the us for plants to be located inside of major cities. It's much more common for them to be located sort of more remotely or outside of cities but chicago was sort of unique in this respect And then you have the third plant the state line generating station. That was as i mentioned earlier. In hammond indiana. Just outside of the city and the the sort of spatial concentration. These three plants Was indeed very important for our study along with the fact that they happen to close right around the same time in the paper. We say nearly simultaneously because it was within a six month period march to august of twenty twelve So that was really important. for our study In that it this context where we could look at the effects of these closures on in one of our papers. We look at school absences. That's the paper you mentioned in another we look at emergency room. Visits for asthma related conditions among young children But you're absolutely right that the Unique circumstances of these three plants being so close to each other and Inside of or very close to a major city Was one of the reasons. Actually that we i guess. Set out to write this paper. We or at least i'll say for myself. I don't know of other circumstances in the us where there has been Sort of a a context like like the one that we studied so emily so the company sue. What sort of the size of the study Comedy kids. How many schools. Yeah absolutely so. This picks up on on sarah's point that examining this within the context of a large city the city of chicago was important to the design of our study because it gave us a large enough sample of elementary schools to exact to examine the impacts of these closures. So we constrained our sample two elementary schools within the kind of chicago and chicago adjacent areas. So we mostly looked at chicago. Public schools district sport. We we have a couple of of districts to the the west of chicago as well that fit into our sample for an overall sample of of approximately I think it's it's right around Four hundred and fifty school elementary schools in our sample and we have data from these school starting in two thousand the two thousand eight two thousand nine school year. I'm going through the twenty fifteen twenty sixteen school year so we have several years both before these closures took place after these closures took place in which we follow these schools over time so all of our analysis for our examination of school impacts are are at the school level so looking at this sample of Approximately four hundred and fifty elementary schools in and around the chicago area on and that's our main sample size offer for that paper. I'll just note that that in our of the other people that sarah alluded to in which we look at the impacts number agency department visits for for asthma. In that people we actually use zip codes in chicago. And that's a somewhat smaller sample size on a slightly different kind of empirical setup but but overall that's that's the sample that we use in. these studies. user isn't this amazing. Data sampler flogger in fifty schools It's large date assert Acutally what what what was local rice was the timeframe that yes we're looking at the period Starting with the two thousand eight two thousand nine school year and ending with the two thousand fifteen two thousand sixteen school year So that gives us a couple of years before that twenty twelve year. Where were these closures. Took place in a few years after it. Actually measure both the overall impact of these closures. Right around the time in which they closed but also the the dynamic effects of what the is reductions in pollution from coal fire. Power plants meant you know both right after The closures but in the years following as well yeah. I don a lot about this heavy. I was just thinking that so you. You're mentioning absenteeism and there is always a coalition causation issue. So the factors dead. That might have affected this in any way. Well so what we do. In our empirical setup is to to try to disentangle kind of the impact on schools that we expect to be more impacted verse less impacted and so what we do is use the difference in different specification to examine the impact of these closures. On you know on schools that are Within a small radius within a ten kilometer radius of the the closed up plants and compare those two two schools that are located outside of that ten kilometer radius saw and then we look at changes. Both you know before and after the closures and so that helps to address some of the concerns about the the cause -ality versus versus question And it helps to rule out some of these potential other impacts or other changes that could have taken place during this time and the reason that this helps rule some of those pieces out Is because there would have to be you know. Other policies or other industrial changes or other pollution related changes the kind of affected schools in the same spatial and temporal manner. That are coal fired. Power plant closures did on so by using that difference in difference specification we we can kind of try to avoid some of those additional challenges that we would see you know without having this longitude on all data in sarasota. You mentioning absenteeism. Here and presumably absenteeism is related to out pollution driven Issues but do do we have any any sort of request eater that she'll said yes so We are One of the stories that we're trying to tell in this paper is that the absences that our school absences that are decreasing following the plant. Closures is actually coming through at least partially improvements in children's health so in the Our power plant closures breath of fresh air. Paper the one. That's actually about school absences. We provide some supporting evidence where we empirically investigate the of these plant closures on Emergency room visits for asthma related conditions among school. Age children We do a similar thing in our other paper. We're looking at Emergency room visits after asthma related conditions among young children and in both cases we find a pretty substantial decreases in rates of emergency room visits. And so we're we're sort of empirically documenting that accompanying this decrease in absences. Are these two notable for separate age groups school age children versus young children But for both of these age groups we see pretty substantial declines in these e d. Visits and so that is our sort of empirical contribution to say that we think that underlying these reductions in school absences are improvements in children's health. It's it's possibly not the entire story but we think that at least it's consistent with this idea that the plant closures are leading to better health Particularly as it relates relates to asthma. And then the thing is we're citing evidence that we're not Necessarily the people who do this type of research but Literature from public health from medicine documenting Serve the correlation between air pollution exposure and poor health poor respiratory in particular. Health outcomes among children Aware drawing on sort of those literatures to say. Hey we think this story sort of make sense that these school These reductions will absences are possibly coming through improvements in children's health. You these two papers together so the other people that you have the excessive afloat Pawprint kosher emergency department visits mentioned for Conditions To forty year old children in chicago and if the horizon of smack through two papers in combination Says a bit interesting story right And so so. In this paper you say exposure to ambient air pollution especially among young. Children is a serious public health concern. Given their ongoing physical development small sizes higher pretty grades and activity patterns childrens children. face higher. Ambient air pollution exposure in a more susceptible to negative effects than roles. Now this phenomenon so so you you sort of in some sense. I don't know disarray. Terms had Lucked out because the chicago area. You got three plans close Do dooby doo be a no. If there is any such data outside the us so there's certainly is Is both literature and data on these types of relationships between exposure And outcomes both for for children For adults and for elderly adults on both inside and outside the states so i actually One of the things. That brought sarah together for this collaboration with my work. I in the environmental space specifically looking at the relationships between air pollution exposures driven by forest fire activity Ends and health and other kind of economic outcomes in indonesia And so sarah. And i had been talking about some of my work Looking at those relationships in in And that led to some of these collaborations in the united states so abroad and particularly in low and middle income countries there Both both energy related Air pollution just just like the one that we study in in our paper right. There are coal fire power plants and brick kilns i and other kind of industrial related polluters that that generate pollution and that that the research looks into but then there are other phenomenons such as a kind of forest fires and particularly severe forest fire seasons as well as indoor air pollution in cooking technology than have all been used as ways to measure the relationship between air pollution exposures And health and other human capital or economic outcomes much of this literature looks at effects on a very young children on infants and children under the age of five Which is what we do in our paper as well but there's also evidence that other honourable populations such as elderly adults Or or people with a kind of Compromised immune systems or other underlying health. Concerns are also more impacted or more vulnerable to these exposures. This is important piece of information. For policymakers right so In twenty couldn't economy we spent four four point five trillion dollars in health care And if you would truly internalize 'cause beacon clearly sees certain technologies instead technologies have known. pd pliable. But what do you think the policy makers have a good grasp of what's going on That's not exactly sure how to answer that. I think one of the things that we wanted to demonstrate in a in a small way in this paper is that there are costs associated in terms of human health costs associated with the way that we generate energy. And you know. We're not the first people to say this. But you know this is our contribution to say that like you mentioned These types of activities are costly for human health. And i think we're beginning to have some sense You know this is a very active. You know a growing area of research. We're starting to have a sense of exactly the magnitudes of those costs. yeah. I haven't seen anything like this The the shift Sorta the comparison between fossil fuel powered energy production and known fossil fuel powered energy production Have sort of a basic humanistics. Their weekend we can measure those things began look at productivity efficiency. But i haven't seen too many things that looks at the cause of these things and presumably the health caused are probably in order of magnitude higher than sort of the incremental things. Happy measure that. Or what you think. So one of the things that i think is is kind of interesting and potentially unique about Particularly our application For for looking at school absences is that we you know we are speaking to these kind of you know this. This proxy for healthy school absences. These kind of asthma related impacts But we're also thinking about kind of some of these broader externally changes associated with the ways that we generate electricity and so research like this paper. Hopefully as informative for policymakers who really do want to think through all of the different costs and benefits associated with you know our energy production and and planned energy transitions and so. I think you're right that there. There's work out there you know both From from researchers within the government but also researchers in In academic positions that is kind of trying to examine. What some of these you know. Health impacts of air pollution. Look like because you know often where we're doing these kind of impact. Evaluations of big pieces of policy. Like the clean air. Act the clean water act particularly in the airspace is those health impacts that really generate kind of some of the biggest benefits and so by thinking about this holistically right both the the kind of health related impacts the potential educational related impacts which you know other research shows has potentially long-run influences on on potential earnings for these children. Those are the pieces that we need to start stringing together for policy makers to to put together the full picture of the potential costs of of different types of energy generation to make more informed policy decisions for you know energy transitions renewable energies fuels. Moving forward yeah exactly. I mean the long only fix could be quite high. You know it's it seems to me there's multifactorial an exponential so kid doesn't show up you're looking at two four year old children here Unable to show up to school because of a kilt reason it has so many implications for society -cation leads to crime. logo that eucation leads to ghetto basically lack of productivity for a long korasan submit person. Brad decline due to the policy is quite substantial. So united obvious felt that we don't really have a policy infrastructure that looks set sort of strategic costs of policy I don't know. Sarah he said cost i mean i think there are a communist who are trying to sort of put these types of pieces together and trying to understand how early life influences that could be even before you're born but also experiences in early childhood how things are related to your long run outcomes and i think other people have done tremendous work trying to better understand these things and i think of our work as as sort of Contributing to this overall conversation saying look like we can document that You know this policy in particular having your school located near a coal fired. Power plant living miracle fired powerplant You know negatively impacts you when you're young negatively impacts your health negatively impacts your ability to attend school and there are others than i think that are doing the work to connect those types of things to longer run outcomes. anticipate of the opportunities that people have through throughout their their lifetimes. Social sort of a so. So what happened mendis to companies. Shut down this plans. They had some sort of prior to a subsequent plug on break the day. I can't exactly remember what has happened with the three sites. I think i don't exactly remember. I think emily at least one of the plants has other at it. Is that right. Yeah so so You know some of these plants are still operating in very limited capacity on its natural gas conversion so so there's some natural gas generation that's occurring At least one if not two of these sites but it's to a much lower extent than the coal fire power operations and then of course you know. Natural gas is a cleaner fossil fuel although still polluting fossil fuel and so so there was some natural gas transition. you know the the parent companies that owned these plants As alluded to at the beginning of of this conversation did have eventual retirement plans on and so there were no plans in place for energy generation to continue right. It's not like these plants went off line and all of a sudden. There were big outages of electricity. That occurred in the as these areas. rather there there was kind of a plan to transition to other sources and generation from other parts of the country and the state of illinois. While so i think that that partially goes into it as well Although you know just like these plants were retired before the overall retirement plan had been put into two effects on you know. Some of those transitions may have had to speed up a bit as well. So i think the the general sense that we have from from our understanding But you know you raise an important point that you know. It's not the case that when one plant goes off line or or we think about these energy transitions that we don't need to think about that. Secondary step of what is the transition. How do we make sure that that people still have access to the electricity that they need for their everyday lives. Yeah yeah so you should gokul phenomenon or other states are doing something similar I knew that they had a great christian just a few months ago who was pushing clean coal. I know what that means. y- phenomenon or something that is every state is doing so the last decade has seen substantial declines in the use of coal for energy for electricity generation in the united states So to just give you two examples of states. That i i know a little bit more about one is one is illinois. Of course we're we're chicago is located off. Since two thousand eight there have been you know. Approximately twenty closures of coal fired power plants. Three of them Or or two of them. I guess was in indiana Are the plants that we look at in this study but this is kind of part of this overall trend i in the states but also in the broader us as well so pennsylvania Where where. I'm now located at at penn. State has also seen large reduction and operational coal fired power plants on approximately twenty plants closed in the last decade on and there are large Energy transition plans here in pennsylvania. Thinking about transitions You know away from from coal and in pennsylvania particularly to natural gas. I'm considering other renewable energy sources as well so so there have been large reductions in coal as as an electricity source in the united states in the last decade. That being said you know it is still an important Electrcity source so you know anything about twenty three to twenty four percent of us. Electricity is generated via vehicle off currently. That's that's down substantially from a decade ago but still not an insignificant components and coal is the most damaging most polluting fossil fuel out there. And so you know thinking about some of these transitions is important for a clean energy transition. Right we see our current president kind of talking about Making sure that infrastructure plans and and other policies are aligned with our climate objectives and so thinking about these transitions to less polluting fuels or to renewables is really an important component. That so just want to ask you of a so. I was looking at the chart that you have In one of the papers offering or of flight plans offensive populations jilani pseudo to for years. And i see a big roth at the corner of pennsylvania new york and they see a big brawl up in chicago now. This is sort of coming duties to me from a sort of a binary political landscape that the have it seems like new york pennsylvania and illinois in chicago more specifically affected by this. So hub This from a political perspective. Also one of the things i wanna just mention about. This figure is You're you're talking about in the paper. Is that those. Blobs are big because their population waited and so they're showing the locations and so part of that is just showing that like these are places where lots and lots of people live so even if there's you know One plant there. These are these are trying to show the number of zero to four year. Old children That live within ten kilometers of Sorry who live in a zip code whose introit or is within ten kilometers. And so i mean the pattern icy even this figure is that there are sort of these regional patterns of wear operational coal fired power plants. This map might be slightly updated because it is from twenty. Sixteen is an as emily mentioned. you have you know. Sort of large numbers of retirements in in the past Ten years past five years And so But you definitely do see this regional pattern A lot at least to me of the Coal fire power plants locations are concentrated in the midwest and the east coast compared to looking at say the western or southwestern parts of the united states where These plants are just far far less common. And so this is completely clean. She California oregon and washington is a clean slate. Yeah i think there might be a few plants located there but yet far fewer and as you can see the scale of the sort of docs on those Located in those states are are much smaller. Indicating that are located in in parts of those states where there are not a lot of people nearby And so you see sort of very very different regional patterns in the locations and then also Sort of how close to populated areas. These plants are and what up with that. I just want to add to this. Win is is that you know. Coal fired power. Plants have been around for a long time. These plants that are closing in chicago and these plants that are closing in pennsylvania. Some of them have been in operation for for a century Right or have been in operation since the late nineteen twenty s And so so there is a bit of infrastructural path dependence here that that i knew years of show right places that were industrialized earlier. places that were big hubs and needed a lot of electricity access. Those are some of the areas where some of these older pieces of infrastructure exist. And i think we see a little bit of that in in the maps as well perhaps the next decade will see lots of changes there and new infrastructure investments. But you know these plants that were closed down in chicago had been operating for for decades on it. So it's it's not a new technology. Yes that's a good point namely I was i was wondering Politicians who really want cool and fossil fuel injected will Seemed to be sort of the south southern part of the us and at least on the surface we don't get a lot of coal fired plants in the south. We have them in more. What one might call countries Pennsylvania new york illinois and. That is sort of coming to dave in some based on policy perspective. Yeah no i think you're right. I i think you know sarah's point that this is you know it's a little bit skewed by those. Those population weights is is a good one right that that we're kind of seeing the the population impact but that doesn't detract from from your point that there is this disconnect. I'm in and i think that's why we're starting to see you know even at the state level some of these State or regional initiatives to shift away from from coal As well so for instance the regional greenhouse gas initiative or reggie is a consortium of of northern and northeastern states that has created a fairly well functioning of cap and trade system for reducing pollution and pollution from coal and other fossil fuels in that area and brinson pennsylvania's kind of currently in the process of potentially joining reggie. And so you're seeing kind of some of these subnational. These regional arrangements these state level policies. That are seeking to address some of these issues. And so you know. I do think that there could be changes coming. In the future to what these maps might look like of impacts both from a population perspective but also from a geographical perspective. Yeah yeah i. I think that's right. So be have a legacy infrastructure to to think about sort of legacy policies and the transition from legacy to the new is not so i guess in some sense the big the big cities in the mid west not by legacy policies clams. Yeah and you know we see this. You know outside of energy infrastructures. While right i think we might see similar trends in in transportation or or in other types of infrastructure and. I think it's something that will be really important for For policy moving forward thinking about the appropriate ways to respond to some of these infrastructure needs. Yeah yeah we'll take a quick break. Saturday leave and we come back and talk about some of your other papers. Thank you thank you. This is a scientific sense. Podcast providing unscripted conversations with leading academics and researchers on variety of topics. If you like do sponsor this podcast please reach out to info. At scientific sense dot com. We are back. Sarah namely we were talking about Coal fired power plants closures in chicago avia And how cool powered powerplant closures actually affect the health of young children Be looked at absenteeism. We looked at emergency room visits. And so on. It's really clear that Any test in clear for many decades now that Cold cold power Power plants are pretty polluting to wineman into some of your other papers Emily uk people in twenty nineteen vacuuming the environmental cause luke development evidence from households investment. Paul invitation blinded qualities rarely Prioritized along the development pathway of developing countries. Even too little is known about how individuals in the settings that you That you intact and blind minutes So you said you kinda survey. They're a pretty large survey thirty six hundred households living throughout the Mahakam river basins investment. Pau what you find in the survey. Yes so. This study was actually part of this larger effort to characterize water water use water access and and kind of water quality in western nepal in these two river basins and one of the pieces of this project that we were really interested in was kind of the trade offs in potential development pathways in the region particularly thinking about developing You know water. Use infrastructure such as a large Hydro economic hydro electric dams or kind of large diversion projects for irrigation and agriculture and these types of infrastructure projects kind of Initiate trade offs with environmental quality and intact local environments And as you may know nepal is is a country that that actually has a lot of potential economic benefits associated with intact environments. You know there's a there's a lot of trekking and and kind of rafting and other types of environmental presume that could be a potential Environmental or economic Productivity pathway as well and so what we were kind of interested in understanding in this study was how local populations you'd kind of environmental conservation and intact environments and whether or not they would kind of value that type of of maintenance of environmental quality over other types of development infrastructure or other types of economic Pathways on so what we do in this study is we run a valuation survey which essentially ask households to to state how much they value Local environmental conservation on. And what we find in these areas is that that there is a positive evaluation for local environmental quality. Then households are willing to You know contributes in in the sense of this stated preference survey contribute to land conservation and to maintain their local environments And you know we we see that. There are certain household characteristic such as education that correspond with higher levels of of Conservation attitudes Which which suggests there might be some some variation in these values and so so this is kind of the. The overall goal of this study was to really try to understand some of these preferences and demands for local environmental quality within this broader context. That there are these trade offs or thinking about development within the region across sectors and across different development trajectories on. That's really what we are seeking to understand this. Is this really interesting emily. Slow soda localization of the kurt right localization of environmental quality than the lucas can put a price on it Because they can directly attribute environmental quality to economics Tortoise in that aspect. So the do you see some sort of an application of this idea more. Generally i think the problem. We have in the woods. Today's that people can really attribute that actions directly to some economics He seems too far fetched. It seems to nebulous too uncertain that they don't want to take action. Do you see some applications. Yes so this is certainly a challenge and this is something that the methods that we use in this paper. These kind of stated preference type valuation non market valuation methods. Really do try to speak to And so some for instance you know. We tried to make the the context that we were asking these households to value very clear to them and very very localized right. We wanted to understand what these households thoughts about about natural land preservation in and around their communities. We wanted to make this something that that you know they could directly relate to you and that they could think through how they might use locally preserved land or or what value they might really place on that almond so in this context drawing that local connection. was really important. That being said You know more. Broadly these types of methods such as contingent valuation or other stated preference methods have been used to try to value other types of non market non market goods within the broader environmental and environmental policy space on. So so. Perhaps the most famous people is the the use of contingent valid evaluation to try to understand how or kind of at tried to tried to value the damages of the exxon valdez. Oil spill. that took place several decades ago and this was one of the first kind of policy related applications of contingent valuation In which you know the the researchers there and in fact the policymakers there were trying to understand how how populations valued the kind of loss of environmental quality associated with large oil spill. so we have seen The types of methods being used in the policy space. The important thing is kind of getting the methods you know as as accurate as possible because of course we are asking people to value things that don't exist in a market setting and that can be quite challenging on so sort of making sure that you're spending time with respondents and making those context specific an applicable enough Really does help to to to To make sure that responded are are actually responding to the question. You're trying to ask. And you're getting a true valuation out of out of that type of method. Yes so. I went industry. Emily that you say that be find it. Households with higher levels of education Willingness to pay that. This debt is video intuitive but you say s to male despondents. That is very complicated. As what what. Why do you think that's the case Typically you know men are not very good in In doing these things so one of the things that that is important to think about in this particular context is is the role of different household members in managing household finance and so in many of our In many of our households that were part of this. This study the gender norms the social norms would dictate that that women are far less likely to to kind of be in control or have a lot of autonomy over household financial decisions. They might be involved in decision making processes we do. Find some evidence of that in our surveys. Well but they're less likely to to be the sole decision maker whereas many of our male respondents are coming from households where where are directly related in these financial decisions For the household. And so some of this is reflective of the actual context in which were were doing this this this contingent valuation study and that's actually encouraging You know one of the concerns about stated preference tight methods is that you're you're simply asking people for their valuations and it can be hard set to make sure that you're getting those valuations. You know as unbiased as possible and so the context we might expect men have more autonomy or more comforting in kind of dictating where the family resources might go. It's encouraging to see that our result kind of reflective of that social context and it's also informative for about you know how to make sure that both Men and women some of this economy and do have the opportunity to actually share their true preferences right so one thing that we might be concerned about. Is that if women have have more limited financial autonomy in this setting that their valuations are somewhat of an undervaluation or for metropolitan this this context which suggests that our overall results would be kind of a conservative Lower bound in this case so pulling in the local context the social context is really important for interpreting and understanding these results. Yeah yeah exactly yeah. That's a good point. Said i want to go to one of your papers can community. Crime monitoring reduce absenteeism into space for your safety studied impact off on student absenteeism of law school based community crime monitoring program that employed local community members to monitor the pulled crime on designated city blogs to students travel and from school. I don't know the location of this system. Hyde clark and this is all over the city of chicago chicago public schools initiative called the safe passage program. So so so. So what do you find it. Yes so in this paper. My co author. Robert gonzales and i Look at the effects of this program on students absences so In some ways You absences are school. Absences are an interest of mine as someone who who studies education policy and so We were interested in Weather These civilian community monitor certes embassies or non police officers. These are Civilian members of the community who have sort of basic training But that work As monitors or a sort of a designated adult presence set of is wall students are are are walking traveling to and from school so we wanted to know if If this had effects on how frequently students attended school so this is i should say companion work to some other work. We've done That's published looking at the effects of this same program on crime rates in the vicinity in the vicinity of public schools. And so we found I think somewhat surprisingly to us. Maybe this was not exactly what we expected when we started the project. Was that This civilian presence During students Travel to and from school has pretty substantial effects on crime rates in the vicinity of these school so in the in the local areas where these where these monitors are working. So we you know in the paper. I think do a careful job trying to Appropriately try to understand And designer a research study that gives us some sense of how crime research declining in other unmonitored parts the city but Sort of abstracting from that. We do find that that this Community crime monitoring program has pretty substantial effects on crime. And so this absences paper just to return to your initial question was trying to understand if that sort of improved environment in the vicinity of schools Lead students to miss school less frequently. So we're not able in the paper to exactly Identify the mechanisms responsible But we do find. That absences decrease in schools where these were monitors are present And we think that has to do with sort of in an environment where there's sort of less stress less chance Less exposure potentially to crime in the neighborhood that could be children's being stressed about Sort of the local environment or also parents being worried about sending their kids to and from school and so we don't exactly know which of those factors is at play. we think it's likely both But we find that. This program has Impacts on on how frequently students attend. School may find that they miss school less frequently. When these monitors are you I can understand this. Share has been growing hidden in south india Sort of community involvement that you cannot engage in any behavior. I found that the news travel faster than light. I think i still wrong. You know my mom knew know. Play engaged in bad behavior dot faster than the speed of light and so e- it sort of Sort of communities ingredient involvement right. Yeah in the process that makes a huge difference. Yeah we think that could definitely be part of it. knowing that there are Community members around. You supporting you as you're going to from school We think that could potentially be at play as well. yeah you. Comprehensive supporting student success can out of school Make a difference so out of time score. What do you mean by that. So i mean in the. I'm studying a program that is supporting students make social and personal development outside of the school day so Academic and other types of enrichment activities both at school and during the summer And in this particular paper. I was very fortunate to work with an organization in north carolina. That had used admissions lotteries. Which is something. That economists love Because it's kind of close to a a randomized experiment but basically This organization was in circumstances where they had more students who wanted to be part of this program than they had spaces available and so they use sort of like a lottery or or random assignment mechanism to say you know. These students will begin available spaces. Unfortunately unfortunately these students will not and so in this paper. I'm able to track the outcomes Of students as they progress through middle school and early high school You know comparing those that participated in this after school and summer programming versus those that didn't Trying to contribute to this question of how sort of supports outside of the school day can help in particular students from low income backgrounds An end sort of other disadvantaged circumstances who are struggling in the in the public system as it is without these supports your sort of team so Some sort of outside support seems to have daughter beneficial effect on outcomes. Yes so this is something. This is a larger theme in my research in is reflected in some of the work that i'm doing currently i'm interested in sort of how all of these factors whether they be supportive programs in the community whether they be a community crime monitoring program but also the The local environment Whether you happen to live near a coal fired power plant for example. I'm really interested in how out of school factors affect what's happening with students As they progress in school it's fascinating because it it might be that the eventual outcome is more dependent on out of school actors than in school. factors Do you have a sense of that. I think that's a really hard question for me to sort of put a number on try to quantify but In my work. I am trying to understand or at least make the point. I'm not the first person to make this point. That out of school factors matter a lot And so the things that are happening in students lives outside of school Have effects on their outcomes and their trajectories and sort of their The opportunities that they have as they progress through our system our educational system. So emily to finish up with one of your recent papers This improved risk inflammation increase the value of quarter of prevention and analysis of state vaccine demand in slama Open bungalow days So so you're sort of measuring what an individual in bunga days breeding to pay to avoid coral separated to think about it. Yes in this hebrew. Really what we're trying. What my coffers are are trying to understand is kind of the the relative valuations of treatments and prevention of cholera on. And so so yes. You're absolutely right that we're interested in understanding you know what a household Or what a willing to pay to reduce their likelihood of of of contracting cholera. And we do this by by measuring willingness to pay for cholera vaccination But we're also looking to compare this to what households are are kind of actually paying when they do contracts cholera on so we have a hospital administrative data on on cardiff cholera. Admittance i in the the cost of illness of these colored mittens. And so we're able to use this this approach to look at both willingness to pay your your stated willingness to pay for prevention versus your your actual payments for for for treatments To to provide kind of a picture of what treatment and To to provide a picture of the trade offs between color prevention and color treatments within our our sample area. Motech you've lied sufficiently low pollen affect your rations. So we are mostly you know considering considering non non all color incidents we certainly are considering that within the kind of treatment side of things. Because we're we're looking at at Or sorry in in terms of prevention side of things because we're looking at possible willingness to pay for prevention for for vaccination On the administrative side the hospital records. We don't see a really high rates of of fatalities at these with the administrative records that we have That that being said you know color is a an endemic disease in in bangladesh and can be feel particularly for for young children who are particularly vulnerable to things like dehydration that result from prolonged diarrheal disease and so So it's certainly not the case that there aren't fatality concerns on but they they don't play a huge role within our sample. Yes oh you said that. The estimate that the house schooled a incurs costs approximately ten dollars for episode of cholera required medical treatment but from a policy perspective from the from the perspective of the government of bengal days That is huge. Productivity laws is not only for the individual but for the entire family disappears to be at least on the surface of no greater for from from a policy perspective. Right yet. you know. I mean so. You're certainly right. we we do. Try to measure some of the productivity costs associated with an episode of color out whether that is an adult who contracts cholera and therefore does have to miss work. Or if if an adult needs to miss work due to do to the need to To care for an ill child. I'm so we do try to measure some of this within our cost of illness estimates Although i will admit and this study as well as many others that tried to do cost of illness estimates using household survey data. We'll also tell you that that it can be quite challenging to get a highly highly accurate measures of those productivity losses. So again we kind of think about these as as somewhat conservative estimates because There's there's some challenges with with recollections from kind of you know previous caller incidents But you're you're certainly right that you know we would expect kind of the overal cost to economic productivity or or costs kind of at a a higher than household aggregated level to really exceed what we're estimating here in terms of the treatment costs on and what's more you know. Cholera is an infectious disease ahmed. So there are certainly some of those kind of public health. Externalities costs that. We'd wanna take into account on a third thing that we kind of don't measure it. All here is is the you know. Overall welfare cost of being sick or having a sick child Those pieces are missing from this valuation as well until you know we. We suggest that the the willingness to pay for cholera vaccination is lower than the actual cost of illness that we see on a as represented in the combination of household survey data on hospital administrative data on however. We suggest that this has to do with some of the perceptions of cholera vaccines in the area on the difficulty of actually getting cholera vaccines potential mistrust in vaccination until this this kind of relates some of the broader conversations that that we have both in the us than in other context about vaccine hesitancy or or concerns about various types of Kind of preventative measures. That people might not feel comfortable with or know enough about almonds suggested. There's kind of space for for policy to intervene here right to demonstrate the actual value of prevention To tame courage this type of preventive behavior. right right so in conclusion Both a few center namely you know we talk a lot about a different Ideas about policy interventions. Where things could get better but at the end of the day you know even if we have the right answers it doesn't feel like they can push that into policy random Which seems to run On rules that you don't quite understand. So so so. What is what is your general sense. you know some of that you're doing in public policy arena and economics. How did he make some of this ideas. Really become implementable in the policy layers. What can we do saturday. You wanted to go fish. I think that's a really difficult question. i mean it's something that we're you know thinking about with respect to these specific papers but also sure emily and i think about this with our work. More more broadly You know it's not enough just to do research. These are ideas that then you know. Hopefully we want to be acted upon and I don't know i feel like your characterization of sometimes the rule seems sort of hard to understand. I think those can paraphrasing what you said Not entirely sure what the what. The right answer is but Yeah i don't have a lot to save vet that i know i was just posing sort of the question for public Do understand that. Equal to four year election cycle They just create but This this information out there. You know objective analytical inflammation but they don't get into the policy realm you know it seems to be sort of not not transparent in that day. Emily have a opinion of this. You know i. I think i agree with sarah in. I agree with you as well. Gill on the on the importance of this question. And i think. I've seen this demonstrated i in in some successful and some unsuccessful ways So i guess. I have two thoughts and one is is kind of the overall engagement. And involvement policymakers along the way so we talked a bit about the the work that my co author and i did on valuing Local environmental developments are local environmental preservation in nepal. As i mentioned when we talked about that peoper i mentioned that this was part of a larger multi year interdisciplinary efforts to characterize water resources. Water access water quality in western nepal and as part of that project You know we spent a lot of time with local. Policymakers national policymakers in nepal in the western region in katmandu to really try to understand what types of outputs would be useful for them into -veloping. You know their policies moving forward and one part of that project was to kind of help provide some of the inputs to be used in the next ten year plan for for local irrigation. Sorry for national irrigation. Planning on incorporating policymakers at each stage of the research process that project successfully have some of these interactions that can be more challenging to come by onto. That's one way you know that. I think You know just being really intentional. About including policymakers. Along the way. If if policymakers are interested and can allocate that time on it can be it can be very fruitful. The other thing that i'll i'll just mention is that i think i think it's important for there to be outlets For academics to share their their findings and their research. That can be outlets. Just like this podcast on. But it can also be outlets like you know respected blogs out or policy briefs or other types of kind of public facing outputs from from other researchers that really are designed for the general public or designed for policymakers. It can be challenging to wade through. You know a a long academic paper to get the the main gesture that the main policy outfit so. I think you know being intentional about that is really important for thinking about the overall policy impact of your work. Yeah yeah exactly. Yeah this has been great Saturday namely thanks so much spending guided of me. Thank you so much for having us thank you. This is a scientific sense. 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Lakers Defeat Nuggets Thanks To Massive Second Half Surge

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Lakers Defeat Nuggets Thanks To Massive Second Half Surge

"Bleeding purple and gold from the Heart of Los Angeles. This is the lakersnation.com podcast with your host Trevor Lane Hello everybody. Welcome into the Lakers Nation live postgame show. I'm Trevor Lane for lakersnation.com joining me tonight. We've got Ron government from lakersnation.com the Lakers pick up the pigs in over the Denver Nuggets. Second half my old my almost doubled the Nuggets point total in the second half impressive stuff from the Lakers. We've got a ton to talk about cleaning what's going on with Anthony Davis the success of Talen horton-tucker some new rotations that we've seen out there some really good stuff to get into tonight Ron. We just finished up the live watch where we watch the entire game and we streamed that live right here on YouTube and we had a lot of people coming in and chatting with us and that was a good time and now here we are doing the doing the post-game shows. So a lot of Lakers basketball for you and I tonight. Yeah, definitely watching watching a lot of stuff and being able to talk about it with the fans. You know, it's always fun. Yeah, we're going to be taking questions and comments remedy. So coming in from YouTube from Facebook from Periscope. Don't forget to go join us off on the flick app where you can find us the Lakers Nation account Lakers Nation official account. I should say and we're talking Lakers basketball there 24/7. So that's a great way to continue our conversations here with what we do with the video on YouTube Facebook Periscope all those places, but got a lot of questions and comments coming in already and overall. I mean run you and I were talking before we came on here. We were a little worried in that first half that this show was going to have a maybe a little bit of a negative spin on it because the Lakers were playing that well and fortunately that didn't last so what changed why we why was this game the tale of two halves? Yeah, I mean clearly they they were not happy with what they did in the first half. No one was and then the fans were happy with what they were doing in the first half and they needed to make some adjustments and those adjustments included just amping up the defensive pressure. You know, I mean, we're talking thirty five second-half points clearly. They wanted to put an emphasis on defense and they felt that if they were playing Elite defense just a second half that the offense would just naturally come with that and it did it worked exactly as I'm sure they Blended. Yeah the end of the night, you know, the Nuggets were shooting fairly well from the field through most of the game, but the for the the. But by the end of the night the Nuggets shot 39% from the field compared to 57% for the Lakers. That's incredible. Both teams. Didn't shoot well from 3:29 % for the Nuggets 33 for the Lakers turn over something we were keeping a close eye on 17 for the Nuggets. They were doing really good taking care of the basketball early started turn the ball over as the Lakers defensive pressure stepped up and I'll tell you why by the way In turnovers for the Lakers the offensive boards hurt the Lakers a lot early in the game 16 to 7 on the offensive glass and that's how these Nuggets win basketball games. But in the second half we saw that kind of Bizarro weird, but you kind of like it line up really get going where you had LeBron James Hewitt Talen Horton Tucker Montrezl Harrell Kyle kuzma and then in some instances was Anthony Davis out there this super switching a super long line up. What were your thoughts on on that group together and why they were so successful. Yeah, I mean there I mean so so we've seen in the last few games now that Wesley Matthews and Markieff Morris have sort of been played out of the rotation temporarily and I think the reason for that is from a Google has noticed that because this team doesn't have the rim protection. It did last year the way to make up for that is to overwhelm teams with length and that lineup brings patients length and wingspans that span the whole floor and just all this crazy stuff and it allows you to put defensive pressure on teams without necessarily having to block their shots. I think that's where Vogel was coming from home. Yeah, and it certainly worked out and we talked about this we were on the live stream like Talen Horton Tucker is a small guy in that lineup and he's six four which isn't tall by NBA standards, but he has a 7-1 wingspan. So you've just got just crazy long arms all over the court and that's how they were able to force some turnovers and get going the other way. But but let's talk about t h d cuz he's the name aside from all the Marcus. All hate that would be see that's in there. No, no question in our chat. It wouldn't be our chat without a bunch of Marcus all hate. But there's also a lot of very very positive comments about Talen took Tucker what a game he had playing smart attack in the basket had some crafty finishes. I liked we saw the defensive end of the floor had the one play where he went straight up and used those super-long pterodactyl arms to scare off the attack great stuff from him tonight. Yeah, I mean 17 points. He had a outside of LeBron and AD who were a plus-21. He was the highest + 17. He I mean he he needs games life for his development. You know, it's a national TV game. It's a big night against a big opponent and for him to show up in a big way like that. It gives you comfort knowing that the Lakers have eleven eleven players essentially that they can throw out on any given night and you know, they're going to be huge positive contributors, right? Yeah. You've got that that depth right and so far not going to Mark not going to us Matthews that's worked out for the Lakers. I don't think they're forever out of the rotation will see them at some point, but I do like that it feels it feels like something's changed here. Like Frank Vogel is finally just said, you know what we've been bringing THD along slowly but it's time it's time to he's just that much better than Wes Matthews, right? I mean, I think we're we're past the point where yes, He's going to mess up every now and then he's going to make some young player mistakes that's going to happen. But it feels like the Lakers have recognized that the positives he brings to the floor are outweigh the negatives which sometimes can be admittedly kind of ugly. Yeah. I mean another thing with that is Frank Vogel and the coaching staff probably realized that if we throw him out there now and we met a prime part of the rotation. He'll make those mistakes now instead of in the playoffs. So I mean if he's going to make those rookie mistakes, I'd rather see it in game twenty three versus, you know, the three of the Western Conference semis. Yeah. It's it's a lot better to have it now. Yeah. Absolutely. You're learning on the job essentially with is what's she's doing just in Hartford from YouTube says nobody is shut down. Jokic Mark showed that he can defend him and he also helped get him in foul trouble. We have Mark for specific playoff matchups. So let's talk about that. I don't have the stats in front of me as as far as how jokic fared directly against Marcus all but jokes played 35 minutes 6 for 16 shooting and this is a dude who just won National Conference player-of-the-month 10 boards, six assists three turnovers for fouls 13 points for jokic. Way below is averages in all categories Marcus all 20 minutes over 4:04 to from 3 to 2. It's a line one block to boards. two points I don't think you can really judge Casal just off the stat line though. How do you think you did cuz the key for him was how did he defend? Jokic, what did you think of him defensively? I think that you know, he obviously he made some mistakes. He wasn't perfect tonight, but he he showed that genuinely all the Lakers need in a playoff series against the Denver Nuggets is a seven foot or to throw at Nikola jokic and the combination of Marcus all being seven feet Anthony Davis and Montrezl Harrell the combination of those three guys. It's it's enough, you know, maybe maybe they can get another Center for some help. You know, that whatever that for the regular season, that's nice. But when when it comes down to it Marcus all proved wage like he's enough to to provide some sort of assistance on jokic and that's really there's going to be some matchups where you don't use them. Right? I mean, we saw it last year which Avail and white there were some games where you didn't see those guys play like against the Houston Rockets or even later against the Miami Heat. So that's what we can expect for the play-offs. But the question of did Gasol defend yogesh well wage. I thought there was some rough moments. There were some moments where Gasol could sold made jokic look quick and that's not easy to do right and there were some moments where that happened. But am overall I think you can at least say he was a serviceable big body in there. I'm not ready to say they don't need another Center, especially somebody that can protect the rim a little bit more but I do think you have a point though that were realistically when it comes playoff time. If you use Gasol on them for ten minutes fifteen minutes, can you get away with that? And then you turn to Anthony Davis the rest of the time maybe maybe that's something that that you can get away with doing and you also have to look at the other the other top teams that the Lakers might play in the postseason be on Denver and Utah Jake Owens really throwing out these Elite all NBA level centers, you know, the Nets have DeAndre Jordan the books have Brook Lopez the Clippers have Serge Ibaka dead. You know, no one's throwing out these these world leaders at Center except for Denver and Utah. So if you can just have Mark and maybe one other guy, I'd be serviceable against jokic and Rudy gobert wage. You've essentially solved the issue of having to play centers. That's that and that could be enough. Yeah, I think that's a good point Darnell Baylor from YouTube said Dennis and Coos brought the energy and defense can be made the Joker work and tht was the MVP LeBron had a triple-double Darnell. I don't know if I could say tht tht was good. I don't know if he was the MVP but no one-on-one basketball just a team win. Yeah. I mean how many times especially that one play? The ball movement was kind of funny because you were like thirty seconds ahead of Chris and Denise and myself and so you were telling us watch this page or the ball movement and the Lakers just had the ball pinging around perfectly Caruso touch pass out to I think it was a kuzma three the ball movement look good and then the energy that you saw from kuzma coming down. And he mentions Dennis Dennis router as well Dennis Schroder sell it out the the headfirst dive to get the ball and poke it free and force the the shot clock violation on Jamal Murray incredible stuff. What did you think? I guess let's start with Dennis Schroder. What do you think of him tonight? Because he put up 21 points. I believe it was he had 21 points four assists seven of nine shooting two of two from Deep from shooter dead. Yeah. I mean this this was one of Dennis Shooters best performances, and I'm I've been a huge fan of his and I was very glad the Lakers were finally able to get him. I know they've been trying to trade for him for I think a year-and-half now if the reports are correct, I'm really glad they're able to get him cuz he showed tonight exactly why he is so valued around the league he is. He's the exact guy. The Lakers need Shaq is the guy the type of guy they were missing in the regular season last year Rhonda took that role in the postseason. But in the regular season, it was the guy they were missing and he showed it tonight specifically that he especially if he's dead. If it's three point shot is falling she is an extremely valuable person to the team and he he could win you games. Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. And I think it's it's both ends the floor. That's the key. So we think of Dennis Schroder we tend to think of all of this this flamethrower on offense for OKC last season, he would come in and the OKC offense would go to another level. I want to say they had the best offensive rating in the NBA when they had shorter long as they're six man, they subbed him in and then you had a three-guard line up with shade gilgeous-alexander Chris Paul Intruder, they have tremendous offense. They're great, but I've been impressed by how good he is defensively. They're still thoughts were the size is an issue Still Moments where guys score over and Will Barton did that on one play tonight drove to his left and just shot the ball over shooter and there was nothing he could really do about it. But he's so Scrappy and he fight song on every possession. I've been really impressed with him and we've been kind of waiting for that because his shot has somewhat abandoned him over the last few weeks. So we've been waiting for him to have a night like this seven of nine two of two from Deep 505 from the dead. And what an efficient performance and I loved what we saw from him on defense as well. Yeah, I mean the that that's what I've always said about the combination of him and Montrezl Harrell. It's this that's hustle and this passion that the both of them play with that even if their shots are falling even if they're you know, they're making some mistakes they are bringing you one hundred percent effort every night and we saw that with both of those guys tonight and then Kyle kuzma the boy who lived the sole survivor the one young Laker not traded for Anthony Davis home, you know, it's been kind of a hot and cold thing in terms of his relationship with Lakers fans that there's there's been a lot of criticism thrown at Kyle kuzma. He is probably been put into more trade rumors than any player in the NBA off at this point. He comes out tonight. Good job on the glass again flew in for some really timely rebounds didn't put up a ton on the stat sheet had three boards, but the boards that he did grab were were very noticeable where he came flying in from the from the wing 11 p.m. Three assists was moving the ball nicely two steals to blocks and then 449 shooting into from to a flight from Deep. Like the only thing you can really complain about is one of three from the free throw line, but on a cruise boat has changed yet again, he is the chameleon he is the guy that every season is adjusting to a new role and it feels like he is really settling into this role with the Lakers of hey, I'm going to play tough defense. I'm going to be a factor on the boards and I'm going to space the floor on offense. I'm not going to be scoring in the double figures anymore. I'm not going to be the guy we give the ball to as the score Off the Bench. I'm not going to be expected to to get shots up for the second unit. I'm going to focus on all these other things and that's why I'm going to be successful with this Lakers team incredible transformation for him this season and so far he is wrong. Paying off for the Lakers. Yeah, and it's it's it's necessarily him making these changes to his game has been necessary because you're right. He has been in every trade rumor Lakers fans have tried to track him for every single top 30 player in the NBA at this point. He so for him to transform his game like this and become a you know, okay. This is a bit of an exaggeration. But the Dennis Rodman style where he can he's just a ball Hawk. He can go where the ball is. He makes the right play. He's getting Blocks. He's getting steals. He's getting rebounds this hustle player type off. It's not something that I think myself or anyone else expected from Kyle kuzma when we saw his rookie year, but it's it's great that he's found this role within the team because this team doesn't need a 16 to 18 points per game score. Like who's was the last couple Seasons? They they don't need that they need him to be this and I'm glad that he's found that yeah. Absolutely. He has been he's been great in this wrong. Hopefully this is something that will last moving forward. I will also say he's he's also my daughter's favorite player. She she loves saying his name. She every time he comes on she she's four and she'll shout guzma Ed Shields it really loud. So it's I'm glad that she's latched onto someone on the Lakers tells me I'm bringing her up, right? Yeah, definitely. All right. Let's see here. I am getting into a few more questions and comments. Actually, you know what we need to do the third man of the night. So let's get into that right now. Here we go. All right. You guys know the drill Third Man Award it cannot go to LeBron. It cannot go to Anthony Davis who is the other guy that really stepped up tonight for the Lakers. I love the fact that tonight. They're it's not it's not tough to find somebody there's multiple options that we could pick from and make a strong arguments of Ron. Who is your third man of the night? Yeah. I mean, I I definitely wouldn't be surprised if we had different answers. My third man is Dennis Schroder tonight, you know, Twenty One points. He he shot the ball really. Well, we already talked about him. He was just he was he was wage everything the Lakers needed him to be tonight in a game where I mean, we didn't really even when we were talking about shooter. We didn't even talk about his defense on Jamal Murray. He I mean he Jamal Murray still had like twenty points or something like that, but he effectively took him out of the game for a large portion, especially in that third and fourth quarter just took him out. Yeah, and we talked about this with with Star level players all the time and Jamal Murray, you can say borderline star, whatever. However, you want to classify him star All-Star, whatever twenty points but a -17 on the night and 7 for 17 shooting. That's what you do. You know, these guys are going to put up their numbers. They're gonna if they're going to get rebounds, but if you can make them less efficient, that's how you win. And so yogesh in order to get his numbers was not very efficient Jamal Murray not very efficient. And some of that credit absolutely has to go to dentist office. I am going to go from my third man just because there's so many to pick from I think shooter is definitely worthy. It might even be my number one option but just because there's so many to choose from I'm going to show somebody else a little love and I'm going to deal with Talen horton-tucker three steals plus a Block 17 points plus 17. That is the highest on the team not named LeBron James or Anthony Davis great stuff 8/12 shooting. He was Dynamic on offense attacking like we saw on the defensive end of the floor as well. He was tremendous there. He used his length very well. And this is the type of performance that she bailed off of this song. Type of performance where when you're in the film room you show up. You said look here's where you really had success. Look what you did here and look at the the impact that it had. This is definitely a building block performance from him. And so I'm I'm really excited about what we've seen tonight. He's not going to do this every night, but I think this was a particularly good one from him. Yeah, and I think you know, I I picked router you picked THD. You could have easily picked Kyle kuzma tonight. There was just there was just a lot of thing. I mean you could have picked Montrezl Harrell. He I mean 13 points four rebounds. He played some pretty good defense on jokic in the third and fourth quarter. They didn't really try him on jokic in the first half but in the second half he actually was a relatively good compared to the narratives. We saw last season when the Clippers played the Nuggets there were just so many options tonight really great team performance. Well, and here's here's what I love is that we've got people in the chat saying you should have picked kuzma people in the chat saying trays had a good game, right? Like that's that's what we want. We want these games like this page. It's not like, well nobody really stepped up. So by default this guy gets a note tonight tonight you can argue for so many players and that just makes it makes the game so fun to watch when you log, So many players really step up especially given the way that first half went is so to see them play the way they did in the second half like I want to go back and re-watch that game already. Just a second half though. Not the first time. I want to go back and re-watch that thing. That was a great second-half. Let's see somebody asking who could we have gotten instead of West Matthews for the price? I'm sure there would have been somebody but I can't think of anybody off top of the head. I mean, you got them for three million and change that bi-annual exception. It's not a lot and you've got a veteran who is one of the best defensive players in the NBA last season. You've got a guy who can shoot from outside has you worked out this way, you know, but I think that's a signing that you make ten times out of ten. I mean to get him for that price knowing that production-wise. He was very similar to Danny to Danny Green last season and you're getting him for a fact the price. I think you take that gamble. It hasn't worked so far, but I don't think there was anything wrong with the thought process behind signing them. Yeah, I mean, yeah, I'm sure there are a ton of NBA players who would have taken that 3.6 million from the Lakers. I can't think of anyone better than Wesley Matthews who would have taken that money. So look Wesley Matthews. Yeah, he hasn't he hasn't been great in for the past few games. He just hasn't been in the rotation, but there will be moments where the Lakers will lean on him to hit shots and he will he will deliver. He is that type of player that can deliver when when it matters. So I've got somebody in the the chat here on YouTube that currently has the YouTube name of Kyrie Irving. What? Okay. Yeah, never know so Trevor do you think the Lakers can guard big wings like Hawaii or PG-13 he would have said it would have been for sure. Yeah, if he said hey, how are they going to deal with the rent and James Harden? Okay, but yeah, I mean look that's that was a problem last season right when we met we talked about the Lakers roster last season. We said they don't have enough three in D Wing Defenders to deal with why Paul George Jimmy Butler Giannis antetokounmpo on and off right and I don't think they've necessarily fixed that problem. Alfonzo mckinnie isn't really getting minutes. Kyle kuzma has been converted into a wing Defender, but you don't have that true lock-down three indy-style player. So there's still some concern there. I mean like the Lakers didn't have to play the Clippers in the playoffs just last year. So when your wind up having to put an Alex Carruthers Or a k c p both guys at 6465 on to a guy who's six eight or six nine playing the wing that can cause some problems. So is it something to be concerned about? Yes, but also remember last season it was something to be concerned about and in the end it didn't matter. They want to Championship anyway. Yeah, and another thing is, you know, during the regular season. Obviously, we saw it in the first game of the season. Kcp and Alex Caruso those guys played a lot of minutes Wesley Matthews. They all played a lot of games on Kauai and Paul George, but when the playoffs come around LeBrons taking at least one of those guys, right and so all you need to do is figure out the other one and I would be comfortable with a combination of kuzma Talen Horton Tucker Wesley Matthews and Alex Caruso on either Paul George or Kawhi whichever one LeBron doesn't want a car. Yeah, I think and hopefully with a rotating cash there you can throw enough different looks at the guy LeBron is not guarding that you can keep them off balance and and find success. There will be easy, but you can try. I've got to come in here from man-made time. All right, let's just let's address it. Are you concerned about eighty s lack of intensity his free throws are a symptom of something. Don't you think Anthony Davis tonight 13.9 boards to assist 3 steals to blocks 3 of six from the free throw line. Not a bad stat line for a lot of players, but certainly not what we've come to expect out of Anthony Davis. So what's going on with a d y can he suddenly not hit free throws and why are we seeing such a low output energy-wise what's going on here? You know, I think there there is some reason to be concerned. I'm not you know, I'm not panicking. I'm not hitting the panic button just yet. But there is there is reason to be concerned. He is not playing at the level that he played last season during the regular season and especially not during the playoffs. The hope is that he now that he knows that he has that other gear that he reached in the playoffs last season, but he's just preserving himself. That's really the hope at this point. If not, then it's even more concerning cuz then it's just an elongated cold streak but I sure hope is that he's just preserving himself because now he knows that deep down. He has that other gear. Yeah, if this is just kind of in-game load management from Anthony Davis wage. Okay, right. Maybe it's just something where the quick turnaround it took a little while to get his legs under him and he's still struggling with that that could also be a thing but it feels like the farther we go into the season off. Or he should be kind of ramping things up and instead it almost feels like he's sliding the other direction. So look we know eighty is better than this. The question is, when is he going to really turn it on? And is it just something where he needs to turn it on or is there something more going on here the longer this lasts the more we're going to be talking about it, but for right now based on the entire body of his career, right the entire time we've seen him do we can say that most likely this tiny little sliver of a few weeks where he's been, you know mediocre is probably not something to be too concerned about that at some point. He's going to go back to being that guy. That's that we're used to seeing but again the longer it goes on. I understand why people get a little bit more and more concerned. Yeah, definitely. I mean, it's definitely something to keep an eye on but tonight was game twenty-three. So still fifty games left in the regular season plenty of time. Yep, absolutely plenty of time to to turn things around. I love how everybody who types Gasol if you're on your phone gets all auto corrects to gasoline. So I get so many comments from people complaining about gasoline. It's it's it's always amusing. So oh somebody says trade Gasol for the covid-19. Wow. I mean look as a matter of public health, I will accept. But you know for the for the Lakers standpoint, you know, yeah gotta keep on keep holding on to consult. I can tell you what guys so this is this is off topic here a little bit I guess but but my wife is is considered front-line medical then in her job. And so she is she's got the vaccine and and she got it. She just did her second shot a few days ago with that kicked her but that kicked her but the next day after she got it was like it was like she was sick for like a day as her immune system ramped up and everything, but that was no joke like she was a key and chills and and all that kind of stuff. So not fun, but she's passed all that kind of stuff now, but yeah, that's that's something to look forward to So won't kick him to the curb just yet though. I saw that yeah, I don't think we should be ready to to kick us all to the curb not just yet. Although some of these like Robert Gonzales says with all due respect to Marcus all I don't think Mark would help this team out any more rare times when he does. I don't know. I mean, I think you still need them against the true Biggs in the NBA. I think you need that. Now I'm seeing get rid of gasoline. Another thing to think about well solid and we always talk about the short turnaround for the Lakers. But Marcus saw was in the second round of the playoffs. They played a game seven in the second round of the playoffs. They were one game away from the Conference Finals Gasol's older and he's not like LeBron where he he doesn't really show his age. Right Gasol is a thirty-six-year-old 7-footer who is coming off the shortest off season of his career. You know, I'm not I'm not saying that Gasol is for sure going to turn it on and become this great player, but you know, I think I think it's fair to wonder if he's off he's just tired right now if he's getting his legs under him the same way ideas. I hope we can hope that maybe you know, like like we're we're finding out now, there's going to be an All-Star break. There's going to be an All-Star game which we didn't think was going to happen wage. Beginning of March they're going to have that I want to say there's going to be a break March 5th through 10th. So maybe that gives us a little bit of time to kind of re-acclimate and hopefully we see a better version of him later on but right now there's no question. It's been there's been some tough moments for him. Yeah. Definitely. Okay, let's get into a few more questions and then we need to do the Master Lock of Thursday nights. By the way, my because we did the live watch party. My normal earbuds ran out of power. So now I'm using my backups and they're the over-the-ear kind. You're driving me crazy not yeah, once you once you get used to the airpods style, it's really hard to change in anything else really is and I'm surprised cuz these are these are good headphones. I like these headphones, but I'm surprised by how much it's bothering me because I'm so used to change the airpods that I use. Okay. Some people said 80 passed up easy buckets. Yeah, I did notice that and we talked about this a little bit during the live stream. We radio was getting one-on-one situations with Jamal Murray and when he was only six or seven fifty eight feet may be away from the rim and passing it taking the ball out. I don't like that. I think that concerns me more than the miss shooting the passiveness that we've seen from him and maybe that was something Vogel would had schemed in that ball movement that he wanted to impress upon them and and and he just kind of had that in his head that hey we need to keep the bulb women fair enough that that might be the case, but it's just a little weird you normally you see you think of Superstar player that gets a much smaller player on them their eyes get real big and they just go. Oh, yeah. I'm going to I'm going to Feast right here. I'm going to score this boss Anthony Davis turned down a lot of those opportunities tonight. Yeah, and you know, it's not just Anthony Davis obviously Anthony Davis was the big culprit of that tonight, but there is a little bit of over passing with this team sure. We've seen it on a few occasions where you know, there's extra pass and then there's the extra extra extra pass and the Lakers make a lot of those passes too. So maybe it's just something that like you said Vogel is trying to get it into their head and saying hey, I always make the extra pass and that's leading to some of these moments. Yeah, that could be it that could be it if if Vogel is constantly hammering. So somebody's asking why would vocal tell them to be passive? No, not that he tells them passive but he's telling the entire team make the extra pass make the extra pass make the extra pass and that's what they've got in their head. Sometimes you can turn down scoring opportunities that you just you don't realize there because you already have it in your head. Okay. I'm going to move the ball along. Could be but that's just a theory at this point. No proof. Yes. Yeah. Exactly. All right Let's do let's get into the Master Lock in the night cuz I'm curious who we're going to go to with that one. So, here we go the Master Lock of the night. Thursday, all right, Chris. The Masterpiece Masters is not with us for this part. He was with us for the the live watch party. But Ron, who should we put in the Master Lock tonight? You know, we we discussed this a little bit on the live stream and there were there were talks that Anthony Davis could find himself in the Master Level tonight. I'm not I don't know if I'm ready to put a Laker in the master lock. So with that said I'm probably going to put Think I'll put Michael Porter Jr. In the garage. He is he is meant to be this prolific scorer. That's that's his big thing and tonight wage if my if my memory serves me, right he had 10 points on like three of eleven from the field kuzma had one or two just swapped out of here of of his jumpers. And yeah, I think cuz my specifically had him in a Master Lock, but just in general a really bad game from Michael Porter Jr. When he he's he was meant to be the guy they thought Jeremy Grand walk in the off-season because they felt confident in Michael Porter Jr. And in a big game like tonight. He just did not show up at all. Yeah eight points three of ten shooting for for Michael Porter Jr. And 4 from 3. So definitely not a good performance and Kyle kuzma certainly outshined him. That's a good one and one that wasn't in my head. So I liked that one. I was not expecting. Michael Porter Jr. To get that bastard lot there, but I oh, oh no Tom from YouTube says Master Lock LeBrons Air ball. I had Rebecca's in a popular show. I had repressed that I had completely forgotten about it. I was going to pretend like it never happened. But yes, that was that was not a good moment. That was a choice. I think I think had LeBron not ended up with a triple-double and the win. I think that moment would have been looked at as the wow. This is this was the Lakers tonight. Yeah, because I switched that are ball kind of went away. Exactly. That's why we kind of forgot about it. Like if they lost by a point, you know, how many shows tomorrow would be talking about LeBron's are bald free-throw than the Lakers lost by one month. Yeah, that would be that would be bad. But I've got people in the chat saying it didn't happen. Nobody saw it did not happen. Somebody opened a door. I saw James had a triple-double and we won the game so I know know are both freezer. That's it. That's it. All right, and I think jokic is a good candidate for the the Master Lock. I mean three turnovers from it for files 13 points. -8 and Jamal Murray two thousand five turnovers for Marie - 17 on the night. I like that. I mean I like that they're strong candidates of the other team. Yeah. I was between all three and in that last moment. I was like, I bought one of these three dudes they were all really bad. But who was especially horrible and for me, it was empty J. I can't disagree with that can't disagree with that one. All right, let's get into a few more topics. And then we will then we'll we'll call it an evening get ready for the Lakers next game. But and by the way guys I should mention we are doing right now a Kobe Bryant Jersey contest where we're giving away a Kobe Bryant Jersey and it's super easy all the Lakers Nation account social accounts promoted that you can go find the link for it. We also found it had the link up in the description on the previous show that we did the watch party that we did during the game. So you can find out on the Lakers Nation YouTube channel after the show's done. I can put the link in the description for this video as well. But you can go in there. 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Somebody was mentioning a Carmelo Anthony trade and that's not happening as much as he might be friends with LeBron James and everything but I think the the more important thing to talk about here, that we're getting closer to trade season, right March 25th is the trade deadline teams are starting. They're still not all the way there but they're starting to get a better feel for what they need. And so we're starting to hear some more trade rumors coming back around right? We've got Lonzo ball now JJ Redick Andre Drummond, these kind of guys are on the trade market the Bradley Beal rumors are always flying around. One of the things to keep in mind is that sometimes there's rumors that could put out there as hypotheticals. Like hey wouldn't it be great if the Lakers traded for this guy or hey top five players the Lakers should Target and trade talks. Sometimes people get fooled by those and they take them as a real trade rumor and then those questions get filtered back to us and they're saying oh, what do you think about this rumor that the Lakers are going to get Jared Allen? That's what I had people hit me up today saying what about this Jared Allen thing? Cuz there was an Instagram account that posted a graphic saying the Lakers were interested in Jared of the cabs are not trading Jared Allen. They're not they're not trading him if they're going to like Andre Drummond's. Yes, they'll try to trade it. But they landed Jared Allen for a reason there are different sites and stuff out there that will just kind of make things up or they'll take something that someone presented as a hypothetical and source that as though. It's a real trade rumors. So just be careful when you guys see that stuff always look back see what the source is. See if it's actually a real legit rumor based on someone with inside knowledge of the the inner workings of a team and they've got access to that kind of stuff or if it's just something that somebody threw out there as hey this would be cool to see this trade go down. So just kind of a little PSA there as we're getting into the crazy season don't get fooled by all of the rumors that are out there. Do your due diligence look back and see exactly where the rumors are coming Friday. He had one thing to keep in mind with that is the Lakers are not going are most likely not going to make any real impactful trades. It's they they don't think they have the they don't really have the assets to you know, go after a star player and they're they're you know, they're rotation right now is pretty set. So they may I can't imagine them trading someone in their rotation for you know, another mid-level player and they definitely don't have the access for a star in somebody commenting on here Lorenzo Jefferson. I thought we were fighting for a sitter to be bought out. There you go. That's that is the much more likely move. We see the Lakers make is grabbing someone off of the buyout Market rather than trade for somebody it's very difficult. They have no pics to offer and the Lakers are hard capped which makes it even more complicated to work out a trade. So a trade it's not to say there will be rumors that pop up that's not to say that Rob pelinka won't poke around and try to log And something that maybe makes the team better that's going to happen. It's possible that a trade gets made but it's unlikely. It's much more likely they get someone on the Bayou Market. It's somebody from YouTube said when are you going to fight Sliwa? What fighting sleep sleep when when did it because I thought it was a that escalated quickly. We went from playing a friendly game of basketball to suddenly Allen and I are fighting no name is Alan is one of my very favorite people in this industry a good friend and no I'm not fighting Alex maybe at some point Alan and I really will put together a little basketball game formal play, but no, I'm not fighting Alan. Oh, no, somebody says trade Alex Sliwa for Gasol. Can't imagine he would make a positive on court, No, no great. I can confidently say it. I'm sure Alan would back this up that that is all is a better player than a monthly ways. All right, guys, let's get into a couple more of these comments and then and then we will call it call it an evening here. Somebody asking can the Lakers buyout Casal. So yes, they can but there's no reason for them to do it because they're hard capped and Gasol has a guaranteed contract so much money. That's going to sit on the books. No matter what if they buy them out for a certain amount. I mean, it's already at the veteran minimum so you would probably just have to wave him which then means you don't have enough room on a cap right now is it is you're right up against that so if you buy out Gasol that salary still sits on your books or you waive them and there's nothing you can do about it. You're just losing a player. You can't replace them even though you have an open roster spot because you're hard capped so it wouldn't make any sense to to way from, Arkansas. Yeah at his price point again. It's same as Wesley Matthews at that price point there just aren't better options out there. Exactly. Exactly. There's not somebody else out there. I've got a question here. Will Wes and Keefe play again Robert. How long are they out of the lineup for? What are you thinking? I mean, well the re now that they've been out of the rotation and they're the Lakers are three and O in those games. That's not to say. Oh that was the thing that was causing their losses beforehand, but I think as long as they don't lose there's no reason to switch it up. You know, I think Wes and Keith are both, you know, they're both good locker-room personalities and they're both fun to people to have around and I'm sure everyone on the team loves those guys. But as of right now, they're Encore contributions weren't worthy of playing time and maybe at some point later in the season. They will prove that it is worthy and they'll get a check I think as long I mean they're three, you know, and as long as they keep winning, I can't imagine Frank vogel's going to say all right time to change up the whole rotation cuz we've one seven straight, you know, it's so for now, it's they're not getting back on the court until you know, there's a reason yeah, absolutely. And right now the nine-man rotation I think is starting to pay dividends. We're starting to see guys get a little bit of a better Rhythm and that's that's the whole point is to give guys a little bit more time on the floor so that they can get into a better Rhythm than if you've got a ten man or even eleven man rotation and guys just by the time they're they're really starting to work up a sweat and and get go off and they can pull it out again because it's time to to change the rotation that that wasn't working so well, so right now this is working. We're seeing some different lineups that we saw the beginning of the season and they're finding success job. Them you just beat one of the better teams in the Western Conference. So I can't imagine unless we get into a game where it's just total blowout then maybe you see those guys go in but look even in garbage G. They employ it right Quinn cook went in and garbage. Alfonzo mckinnie played right Markieff Morris West Matthews did not so it's going to be this way until something that substitutes another change and next up is the Pistons coming up on Saturday and I sure hope the Lakers have something for the Pistons because that that lost to them on the road that has sustained that is not a team lose to yeah, that's their worst loss of the Season by a by a wide margin. All right, let's do one more and then we'll we'll call it an evening since Ron you and I have been talking Lakers basketball for let's see 3 and 1/2 hours 3 and 1/2 hours right now with that. We been talking Lakers basketball cuz we went all through the game. So let's do one more than we'll we'll call it an evening. Sounds good. Okay. So Nicholas Garcia from YouTube said love seeing tht and Braun playing more together and with Caruso as well. That's a good core a second unit to think is true. I just want to throw that in because I do like the rotations we're starting to see the combinations are pretty exciting. But yeah, Tom from YouTube said Do you believe this team can compete with the name? So let's finish with that. What do you think about Lakers vs. Nets at this point? Well, I mean we'll we'll get a preview of what that looks like. I think February 18th the Nets and the Lakers will play that will be a highly-anticipated game. I'm sure a ton of eyes will be on it. Yep. Yep, but you know what the Lakers are the reigning Champions and by all by all metrics. It seems that they've improved except for points in the back allowed the exception of that stat. It seems they've really improved across the board. So at it's not so much can the Lakers compete with the Nets. The question that people are probably going to be asking is, who is going who will be the team that could Dethrone the Lakers? Until the Lakers don't win the championship. They don't need to prove themselves. It's it's up to other teams to diss to Dethrone us and prove that we're not the best team. Yeah, that's a good way to put it and you know, what? Look here's here's the thing the Brooklyn Nets do they have a lot of offensive Firepower. Absolutely. They're very good offensive team and it's because you've got off his hardened Kevin Durant Kyrie Irving, you have three guys where your offensive system can be nothing literally it can be nothing. You can have no offensive system. Just hey everybody spread the floor. Go sneak it in a corner Kyrie. Here's the ball you go score. Okay, Harden your turn. Here's the ball you go score Durant your turn, right that can be your offense and you're probably okay if you're the Nets because those guys are so good wage, but they also have no defense. They are one of the worst defensive teams in the NBA. That's why their game totals wind up being so high it's just a shootout and in the playoffs when games slow down and defense really matters. How long how often is Joe Harris and DeAndre Jordan and some of these other older players. They've got out there. Are they going to get burned and I know they're going to still make some moves but as of right now. Yes, Three Star Wars is better than two. We see most teams around the NBA set up right now with 2 Stars 3 stars makes the Nets very dangerous. No question, but a lot can change between now and the playoffs month. I don't know that I have the Nets getting to the finals. I don't have them getting through the Eastern Conference right now given how poor they are defensively and how much defense matters in the playoffs. Yeah, I mean I'm not I don't remember the the exact where I saw the statistic but since acquiring James Harden their offensive rating would over a full season be the the greatest of all time and their defensive rating over the course of a full season would be the worst of all time. Wow, so I saw that stat on Twitter a few days ago. And I don't know if it's still stands because maybe the last couple of games they've played they've been better. But when I saw that it was their offensive rating since Harding came would be the greatest ever and their defense would be the worst ever. So they are they have decided that offense wins championships in the modern NBA and we'll see if that pays off for them. I mean and and that's it will see they're going to add some other pieces. We know that's coming. They will be a strong player on the Bayou Market, but as of right now, I don't think you win in the NBA Playoffs off with a defense this bad and there's no even if you can outscore teams and they're going to beat some teams. There's some teams that you can get into a shootout with and you can win but I just feel like in the playoffs when things slow down. It's it's going to be a bit more of a challenge for the Nets. But it let but let's say the the Nets do get there. Can the Lakers beat them? Yes again because of the difference defensively these teams are in a different tier offensively. Yeah, the Lakers offense might not be quiet as good as the Nets but the Nets defense is significantly worse than the Lakers. And so ultimately I would pick the Lakers open the nest. Completely agree. All right guys, I appreciate all your questions and comments coming in from YouTube from Facebook from Periscope. Don't forget make sure you are subscribing to the Lakers Nation YouTube channel and make sure you turn on notifications off Ron long night for us. But a lot of a lot of fun talking Lakers basketball. Yeah. Definitely. This is a great night. Hopefully we can do more more live streams. And yeah, it's a great night. Yep. Sure and the Lakers get the win. That's the important part to get the wind and an incredibly fun second half, which I think I'm going to go re-watch right now. So everybody have a great night Lakeshore back in action on Saturday taken on those Detroit Pistons, and hopefully they have a little bit of Revenge in mind till then see you and stay safe.

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Lakers Fall To Raptors As Shooting Goes Extinct

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Lakers Fall To Raptors As Shooting Goes Extinct

"Bleeding purple and gold from the heart of Los Angeles. IS THE LAKERS NATION DOT COM podcast euros Trevor Lane. Elo everybody welcome in Trevor Lane here for Lakers nation, DOT COM, and welcome to the Lakers nation podcast live. If you're joining us from periscope from from facebook from Youtube, wherever you're coming in from welcome where to be taking your questions, your comments live we'll take your complaining to if you're not happy after that game I know we're not super thrilled about it either but we'll do a little group therapy session here and we'll rent a little bit about the Lakers loss to the Toronto Raptors Kyle lowry went nuts the raptors defense was really good the referees. Men Not. So great again, but that wasn't the reason for the loss. In this one, we're going to break it all down and don't forget guys if you're listening to the apple podcast version of this or if you're on spotify stitcher or wherever you listen to podcasts if you're just listened to the audio version, make sure that you re review and subscribe to this show joining me tonight Chris the masterpiece masters has lit household because Chris. Your girlfriend is from Toronto and it's a she was cheered for the raptors. How did you get through this game man? Oh Man I don't know and yes, you sitting here gloating as whereabouts go on. But I? I would like to remind her that we have. Re We have remake named Toronto to Lebron Toe. I understand I understand that wasn't with the Lakers but you know what makes it difficult as well as so stu Lantz. At pointed out the fact that I think we've lost to the raptors like every game since twenty four. So the the thing about this game was just getting a w on the raptors to spend so long but I've been again as i. told you at the Lakers nation I don't think this is any reason to trip out or anything like that. Where none of these Games are most win they're still getting the legs unromantic anything like we were just saying To the coup or the bench was encouraging. You know when you look at Caruso and who's and waiters I mean that was They are the bench outscored the starter. So weird game where game but turnovers a bad shooting was definitely a thing for us tonight for whatever really. Yeah those were definitely issues. Here's the other night we mentioned after the clippers we hit one hundred comments within about thirty seconds we did tonight but they aren't nearly as happy. As were. Gets. The Clippers this this? This is not a happy fan base right now and I am seeing one name pop up a lot and that is dany green and he did not own was that was. Talked about how Danny Green is a guy who I feel like I need to explain the impact that he makes a lot of what he does doesn't show up on the box score tonight was not that night tonight Danny Green was awful was terrible. We'll talk about that. We'll get into into all of that stuff but I think the biggest thing that that stood out to me is you can't open the first quarter and the third quarter and just not score. The basketball and just you jumper after jumper after jumper and the Lakers did this against the clippers too. So it's not time to sound the alarm or anything like that. That's not what we should be doing right now but it's something to keep an eye on these scoring droughts that's going to be concerning the better teams in the NBA will typically not let you get away with that. You can't go five minutes without putting the ball in the basket just does work. Oh, man. Yeah, that was a slow start at really was and I'll tell you what travel. I personally got worried because I just watched that New Orleans, Pelicans and clippers game, and it was kind of the same thing for New Orleans. They have this really slow start. I think the clippers went up like they were up by double digits within the first couple of minutes. So that just. Like. You said Yeah, just that slow start really killed us I think you said the third? Quarter to was. Pretty slow you know ad and Lebron didn't really get cooking way right like Lebron's start at the turn it on the floor but I mean you the thing of with this Toronto team is and we've talked about this but I mean there they have a chip on their shoulders they are a championship team they lost why Leonard. But like even without y on the season that they won last season, they were still a great team. So I mean it's not I I again I know everybody's GonNa flip out 'cause you lost the raptors or the Raptors, but I mean this is still a really good team threat to prove something. So and this was the first game back. You know I don't think they've had a game you know the Lakers secondhand. So the routers really rally wanted to win this game. They have something to prove chip on their shoulder I mean they're gonna go as far as they possibly can upcoming playoffs. So you know it is what it is in credit the raptors they played great. I mentioned on twitter like I really enjoy watching the raptors played the way they play defense. Is Great. They were really hounding the ball and what happened was they were putting so much pressure on the basketball because they knew you've got Lebron who can handle the ball and not a whole lot else on the Lakers that's really a pure point guard type player. So they put a lot of pressure on the basketball. They put a lot of pressure in the paint and the the kind of the I don't WanNa say dared the Lakers to shoot threes or shoot from outside. But those are the looks that gave up and even when they did, they made sure they had somebody closing out to at least contests those looks, and then the Lakers rewarded them for playing that style by not knocking down the shots they were given I mean the Lakers shot thirty five percent on the night twenty, five percent from three. You can't do that. They're just flat out if you shoot those percentages you. Will most likely lose when you play the better teams in the NBA? That's that's that's a fact. Seventeen turnovers was also too high for the Lakers and that was that was a problem you mentioned that Lebron you look at the box score and you see twenty points, ten boards five assists. Okay. Not a bad night but a lot of that came later, a lot of that came when their desperation mode trying to catch up. So that was that was an issue Anthony Davis? Didn't get going until later on until towards the end of the third quarter fourteen points for him six boards three assists one steal three blocks but. For a long time, he was stuck on one point and just couldn't really get things going again, the raptors packed it in the paint the Lakers could not make them pay by hitting their open looks from deep. In fact, they shot forty three's almost half their shots were three pointers and they could not knock them down and that that's the game right there. Yeah. I was thinking about like even in transition, there was a transition play where Lebron was coming down and Stu Lantz alluded to this but they settled for an outside shot even transition, and this is when the game was still within one possession and I think the waiters that you know threw up with three but I mean it was just wasn't the best shot you know. Yeah that's what they were giving them. But on some of those possessions, it almost seems like they were kind of settling for that. They could have gone better or big step mixed and matched even a little more guest but You know again I mean at least. One bright spot I know we're going to get to them I. Mean. Get. Much should. Know what everybody else's seeing but I think this looks like the guy that we've been talking about this guy wanted by his offense shots he's faking it just looks better. Yeah, absolutely. Kyle. Kuzma was was was excellent. You know this was so far we've seen the cow movie were expecting I pull stats right now five, thirteen shooting I. Know a couple of those misses were towards the end when he was rushing upshot sixteen points, four boards one assists three of seven from deep. He had more threes than anybody else on the team and and look I thought he was good defensively he didn't find a little here and there but overall cal Kuzina turned in another solid performance and I think I think if we can continue to get this out of Kyle Kuzma, you're going to see better performances out of the Braun Anthony Davis Danny Green, the rest of the Lakers. So I I am encouraged by what we've seen Outta Kouzmin. Now, we just have to get everybody else playing well, and we we just didn't see that tonight. And you know you had talked about Danny Green to and I know people are talking. About data. I mean. You could see that like even he was super fresh and it wasn't that I. Don't think it wasn't that he was trying it was just an off night and you know I understand people want to get upset or frustrated but I mean I think we all know that that's kind of what Danny Green is and I think you've talked about that many times I mean this is just wasn't it Danny Green night I mean. Honestly I don't know I wasn't paying too close attention to the defensive end but I mean it might have just been I don't know who put in his place but I mean this would have been one of those is if you could kind of backup Danny Green a little bit but you know does Malecki wasn't trying out there i. saw him. See the frustration with each shot i. think he was like old for some. It was a really high number. It was it was pretty bad. Well, I'm seeing a lot of people mentioning. Avery Bradley and the fact that he was out there really hurt them and and look. That's absolutely true. Unfortunately that's not we can't really go back on that because he's not coming back. It's not like Avery Bradley was taking a night off and he's back next game or something like. That every brand that he's not coming back. So yes, they did miss him and games like these are going to really show why they miss him because you don't have to put on a point guard instead you've got case EP and KCPT has played pretty well all season is nowhere near the defender that Avery Bradley isn't. So that's that's a challenge I think they missed him last game too. I think there are plenty of instances where you were missing Avery Bradley in this one, but I'll tell you where you really miss them. If you have an off night from a Danny, Green Avery Bradley could have been that guy to absorb some some of those minutes. Instead we saw them going to JR Smith and Jerry Smith was not good. I don't think you can do that consistently turned. Jr Smith Frank Vogel was looking for somebody that could give them a boost and that guy wasn't there and not having that depth that hurt the Lakers tonight. But that was not the reason why they lost this game or anything like that. Avery Bradley. Certainly would have helped but it's not like if he's there there's suddenly winning this one. I don't WANNA I don't WanNa try to suggest that. I mean how much travelled you have loved to put Avery Bradley on one hundred percents how yeah. Call lowry wet Nutso so honestly that. I mean I don't have the statue trying to pull up the route. Here it is but I mean if you honestly you maybe you could have changed the game if you had eight. Lower 'cause I dunno lowry was just thought. He was really in the zone tonight man. Like he was not messing around, I'm talking thirty three points on eight hundred sixteen. Rebounds. Fourteen. Rebounds for that showed how that should never have triple double. No. That should never happen. But I mean this is I don't even know if I've ever seen a game this out of calm lowry. If you look at his stat line, it's thirty three point six re assistant fourteen rebounds like my head's about. Five of nine from from three and fifteen free throws for Kyle lowry to lead the game by nobody else even got double digits in free throws and Anthony Davis and Lebron James are attacking the basket and that's where Lakers fans get upset with the referees. The officiating when you see Lebron attacking, you see Anthony Davis attacking and you've got Kyle lowry I'm gonNA drive into the paint. Let me run into somebody I'M GONNA fall down and I'm going get free throws out of that. That's what's in. You know that's that's the way he. Plays. Though, right. He had a tremendous game the flopping yes look it drives me crazy too but he's a tremendous player and he played great and his stat line is just absolutely insane. He was a plus twenty four on the night. That's that's ridiculous. But again, are you going to get that out of Kyle? lowry every night probably not probably know now you know what I mean it's just crazy again again, he's about six foot one and he pulled fourteen rebounds tonight I. Just I don't even know how to fathom that and You know you had mentioned Jr Smith I. If anything I think Lakers nation should be bringing up jared Smith honestly and I know he's another guy who has the work himself back but I I, haven't liked anything. I've seen JR Smith since he's come to the Lakers every time he gets the ball I pretty much cringe kind of reminds me of the old score Casey p back when Casey is to take all those odds like. Every time Jerry Smith gets the ball. You just kind of figure that he's GonNa, shoot it, and it's usually a bad shot. So it's like whenever he gets the ball, I'm just like Oh my God please ask please I. Think the hope is Jr Smith was that you know they they knew it was going to take a little while to get his legs under. Way Mark, Morris Fed so many minutes early in the game you play ten minutes. was just because Vogel is recognizing that, Hey, look these guys they need to get their legs under them eventually by the end of this eight-game stretch here and to be ready for the playoffs. So he pushing minutes onto them we'll see maybe Jerry Smith we'll get his legs under him at some point, but it feels like the Games a little fast for him right now it feels like it's moving at a speed that that's a little bit quicker than what he's comfortable with and that's maybe to be expected but Bo. Yeah, it's an issue. After that I mean, how long has he been out now like I remember me personally when i? Was away from wwe and I came back for the second time. Even with that, it's just a different pace you're used to when you're under the bright lights and you're doing it and that on that grand of a stage, it's just a whole `nother level and it takes some you know take some getting used to it takes some adjusting, annotate some. By quite frankly you know you gotta almost developed. You know he's gotta learn to bring it back next level again because he's been out of practice. So long right exactly and that's going to take time. If it happens at all, it might not might not I've got an interesting comment here from Kayla porn from Youtube said, the starters lost of this. That's not something that we we've been saying much this season. It's usually been the bench, the bench the bench can't score the benches giving up leads the starters, get them lead, and then the bench blows it that's not what's happened over the last two games. It's been the bench that has given the Lakers boost on the backs of of Alex Caruso and coups MMA and the starters have struggled that's that's something that we're GonNa have to keep an eye on I'm a little bit on one hand. I'm encouraged that the benches playing better but my goodness, these starters have got to figure things. Out, because it's not looking pretty fast I think the say that in the first half, they only had what forty one points at halftime or something like that. Oh. They had a little bit more than what forty four but the starters only had like ten to fifteen of those points in the rest of them was the bench it's it's something to keep an eye on certainly next game is candy starters get going because you can't ask this Lakers bench to keep bailing you out and it feels weird saying that because that has not been the storyline at all this season, it's been the exact opposite. I mean, it seems like Lebron James has had kind of a difficult time offensively getting cooking and both games. But I understand we need we need them to do their thing. But again, I'm still just kind of encouraged by seeing because again, most this season, we've never had the talked about the starters again it's been the bench so for it to be the bench to be as encouraging because. Again for us to see this version of coups is going to be very helpful because this looks very different than what we saw before I mean he's confident he's hitting shots. He's even again, even with his defense. Is he still does not the greatest defender, but he's been able to stay in front of skies better than he has in the past. So I just I like what I've seen him and I'm I want the starters really get on but I'm at least encouraged by the backup. Yeah. Yeah. That will be something that continues in terms of their quality of play and then the starters bring it up and then the Lakers ruined. Getting people that are commenting like, Hey, you know what? About Jared? Smits twenty. Point explosion in the other night. I think that kind of proves the point more than anything else like it's weird. We got these JR Smith Fans that that believe Jr Smith is still there's this incredible player and he needs to be maybe starting and all of the it's almost it's not like Jeremy Lin level or or anything like that but it's very Rondo esque where you've got people that are diehard Rondo fans and they want to see him in there and I I'm seeing the Jair Smith kind of pop up here in our chat a little bit. Look. The fact that Jerry Smith went off against the Washington Wizards just proves the point that much more that. The the piece is a little bit too quick for him. Right now I'm not saying he's terrible player and he was a really good player, but against a mostly G. League team in the Washington Wizards, the peace isn't going to be nearly as fast. He looked much more comfortable there. He can score in a game like this where the raptors are playing this pressure defense and the game is moving at a much faster pace. He struggled. That's what we're seeing right now and I don not saying he can't get up to speed he can. He just hasn't so far and that's that's what I'm seeing out there on the floor. We are also getting a lot of comments here about changing the starting lineup. SAYING CHANGES NOT LINED UP, get rid of Danny Green Chris. Are you there? Do you think that they should change the starting lineup at this point? No I mean not that frustrated with Danny Green and we already kind of know what he is I mean he's going to have games He's like hot and cold. What it seems like some games he's auditor and some games he's missing a night was just an off game fan but I think he's still hustles out defensively and does. A lot of the other stop. So I I don't know I'm not. Automatic. If I was. Vogel if I saw him putting up the by kind of the doughnuts, he was putting up today I would probably have sat him maybe a little sooner but I'm not there. Based on your question but. I'm not there either I would I would not change his starting line-up at this point I think there's cause for concern that the bigger lineups are struggling so much and it's something. To Watch. But we're five games in and three of them were scrimmage games where you saw on a bench players coming in, that might not really be part of the rotation. So this is this is still very, very new, and so it might take the Lakers a little bit of time to figure things out but I'm not at a point where I'm going to say, just scrap the they've been using this starting lineup all season. With the exception of avery. Bradley and even when Bradley was out Casey was in so they've got a decent amount of experience with this lineup I. Don't think you just throw that away because of a little bit of a bumpy start here I think you stick with it and yes, it's frustrating when you see Danny Green Literally Miss Everything oh seven from the field of to the free throw line. And this guy is a shoe. That's that's insane and it's frustrating the knee-jerk reaction is a get this guy out get him off the floor if he can't hit anything but we need to keep in mind that it's one game and one of the things that we tend to do when we haven't seen basketball in a long time and we did this decay. The. Beginning of the season is we overreact things we hyper analyze what we do see because we've been missing basketball for. So long we don't have this long sample size to pull from anymore. We're pulling from this tiny sample size of these last few games, and so we're going to take everything that we see to be. Oh, this is the way it's always going to be, and then we react to that we make decisions off that. Just, like he had a chance to kind of fight his way through his slumps. I. Think Danny Green needs to be given the chance I think this whole Lakers team needs to be given a chance to get things back up and running. Because again, we're at a tiny sample size phase right now. So let's let's put the brakes on wholesale changes at this moment. While, but you know trump as you were talking, I was looking at the comments and boy, there is no love for Danny Green. You're saying, Hey, basically, they're like this is the daddy green with adult season always missing open shots and I only thing also we still I mean look where we are I mean he started pretty much all the games stole the one seat in the West. So I mean I I, understand everybody's frustrated with him like, yes it's frustrating what he did tonight how many time to miss that was frustrating but I mean he started with US pretty much every game with the first number one. Take that for what you will on the season Danny Green is a thirty eight percent shooter from three. Like. The Guy can shoot. He can shoot the basketball. Now it's not that forty six percent shot last season with the raptors and that's where maybe there's a little bit of frustration. Yes. He's been hot and cold. His overall field goal percentage is down to forty two percent instead of. Forty almost forty seven percent with the raptors. So look stats have dropped off a little bit but. Danny still a good shooter. Yes. Performances like this frustrating I get why people would be upset but. You know what? You've got to give them a little bit of time to figure things out. We've got John Kelly from Youtube set our bench did awesome are scarred or starters scored forty two points are bench scored fifty. Yet look if you WANNA look at the silver lining, that's it. The Lakers bench has been a weakness for so long and now with Kusa playing better with Alex Caruso getting more minutes, the benches is looking better and so hopefully, that's something that will continue and if the starter's get rolling. Lakers are in good shape. Dion waiters to man I mean I know we're gonNA surrogate talk about him at some point. I haven't minded what I've seen out of him and I'm just saying if we look at. All the guys that we are the guys that we've added I. Mean You know? Jr. Smith would be the guy we're talking about like the waiters has added a better outing pretty much. What seems like every night you know with the exception of wizards game, the waiters handling the ball. You know I li- I like what I've seen that in. Let's talk a little bit about dion waiters. So we've been saying for the past couple of games like he's played. Well, he's been shooting. Well, there's a bad shooting game coming because he's not this good of a shooter and I think we saw that tonight we just saw four of eleven shooting two of six from three now. Great but. What I do like is that even though he shots were falling quite as consistently, he's still needed impact out there. He was able to get to the rim a couple of times he's able to attack. There was one play early in the in the first half where the liquor swung the ball around a ton of by the way over passing that's something I wanna talk about necks was there to. Win Pass shoot but they were swinging the ball swinging the ball, swing the ball and the raptors to their credit. We're doing a great job closing out and shutting down the open shots. Finally, Dion waiters got the ball and rather than just swing the ball. Again, he put the ball on the floor. One two dribbles got into the paint raptors defense collapsed kicked it out then found an open coups for to bury a three. The Lakers didn't have that before they didn't have that guy that could just say all right. Forget it. I'm getting into the paint and I'm GonNa make things happen from there. They didn't have that off their bench and so I was happy to see the dion waiters was still providing that sort of dynamic even though his shot wasn't quite fallen. I mean and what did he put a twelve points tonight so I mean. At the point is, is I mean e- contributed at least when he's Out Thirties Wall and That's kind of exactly one before we've been saw waiters play. This is exactly kind of what we were talking about that. We'd want on him. You Know He's myth. He's giving us the guy who can drive to the bucket. He's handling the ball especially and rondos absence 'cause i. mean that's been the thing you know if you've noticed we haven't been trying to. Replace Rondo it's been Kinda by committee. I. Think they've been very out about saying that you'll have coups bringing the ball up sometimes you'll have waiters bringing ball of sometimes so so far I mean again, we lost tonight shirt but I kind of liked that I'd like what we've gone out of 'em as far as the production on those things. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. Look. When you've got different ball handlers coming in and they're trying to, they're trying to find a point guard by committee basically, and so far. I've liked dion waiters I've liked what he's provided. They're handling the basketball he's not a pure point guard but you. Just, forget the stats and you just watch the Game Dion waiters a guy that POPs he pops off the screen and you say, okay, this is a guy who could do so that this is a guy they can help this team win. It's I'm still excited with what they've got there. All, right. Let's let's talk a little bit about shot selection because one of the things that that I had an issue with tonight was the Lakers were over sharing and that's not necessarily a terrible thing. You would rather over share than under show you'd rather have a team that's going to pass a little too much that a team that is, is GonNa be shot happy and they're going to be selfish. The Lakers were not that in fact, they just didn't understand win to pull the trigger on their shots there was a number. Of Times we're guys passed up open shots to swing it one two three more times. The next thing you know they're in trouble going up against the shot clock and the wind up with the worst shot then had they taken the earlier one. So that was a little bit of an issue and I think it's something that's very correctable. So I'm going to be watching for that in the future, but it's the type of thing where Frank Vogel shows the team, the film of this, and it's a pretty easy thing to fix. Trying to change behaviors the other way where players are being too selfish is much more difficult to deal with. So it was a problem tonight, but I think in the future, the way that they moved the ball can be a positive thing. I'm so glad you pointed that out to trapped as I mean we were just talking about Jr, Smith and so. It was jared. Smith. I came into the game is I think one of the instances you're talking about where they had really good ball movement and then it came to jr Jr had an open look on the are exactly I. Guess he wasn't ready to shoot it yet. So he kicked the day D and then they kicked it to someone else and then we got a twenty four second violation we saw we saw that at least I. Don't know if it was a handful of times. It was a few times. Oh, I think they were over passing it but. I mean when you look at the components of who was out there again when you it's not picking Jerry Smith but you know, with jared, Smith being new to the lineup needing to step up chemistry with these guys you kind of look to that. It'd be like, okay. Well that could be part of why they're doing a little bit more of that than we're used. Yeah. Yeah. That's that's a great point and we saw that on the defensive end to there were a couple of times where dion waiters missed his rotation to to get out in the open shooter. But that's just familiarity with the team. He just didn't quite understand his job and that's about Joel. Wang from. Youtube why can we beat the bucks but not the raptors? One game it was one game against the raptors team that was fired up and was playing great defense. I had a raptors fan in here saying saying the raptors didn't even play that well, yes they did that was very, very, very good for the rappers don't offensively few shots here there yet, but that was. That was the raptors defense on just about tip top level, and that's really impressive. Coming out of the out of the break for the raptors should be playing defense on that level of the rotations they were making were next level stuff that was great stuff by them but again, it's one game. Let's not overreact to just just one game and say, Oh, they beat the rappers. No I. Still if it was a seven game series, I'm still picking the Lakers because I think that eventually Lebron's going to get going Anthony Davis is going to get going. They'll start to hit some shots I've got some people saying Lebron. For the beginning got a comment from Youtube right now saying Lebron has asked to be aggressive. Is he too passive? I. Actually liked it. I liked it and I'll tell you why it was the play at the end of the game where Lebron finally said okay. If we're going to win I got to really get going and he drove to the basket and there was little Kyle lowry sliding under him. While the browns in the air, Lebron is trying to take charge ends up being a block Lebron banks shoulder on the floor. That's why I don't want Lebron all game every game hurling himself at the basket doing what he's going to do in playoff mode. This is not the playoffs. The Lakers are GonNa are GonNa send you the first seed in the western conference you don't need Lebron hitting the floor. Five six, seven times a night right now that's not what you wanted. So I, I don't have a problem with passive. Lebron right now because I know aggressive Lebron is still there and we'll see him in the playoffs. Yeah. Another great point Trav- I think. You know again, these next. Well, now we have six games left right like. you know it's not these Games are not most win for us and I still want the team to go out there and compete every night out because I feel like they need need to create that habit. You know once again, going out there and competing and playing to win every night. You don't WanNa, go out there lackluster or not giving winning up. But. You know as long as these guys are getting reps in their their everybody staying healthy. That's kind of really what does next six games is about I. Don't know if everybody should be and we don't want them to lose the next six. Obviously that's not developing or or that's not you know the winning habit but. I did the best case scenario for us. What would be justice? Everybody comes out healthy get a couple few wins out of this and that everybody's kind of giving back to their their basketball bodies by the time the playoffs star. So I don't know I. I don't think we should freaked out about any of these next six games. 'CAUSE I. These guys have been offered four months. It's been a full offseason and it is what it is like if if we see this kind of performance and the play offs then sure we're all in here working at the group. Bands. We you know what I mean. That will not be fun. To, know, so I mean, we see a performance of the playoffs Shurmur. But like right now, everybody just relax. Let's look at the silver lining the bench came through the bench hasn't come this whole season and we're seeing really encouraging things about them and starters just needs to get their legs under on my yeah. Absolutely. Absolutely agree patients patients patients right now with the Lakers I've look at the Lakers are the next. They've got the Utah Jazz and I'm looking at the table here. I'm looking at at who they're playing and what's going to be happening. I mean the jazz are in a position where maybe they can catch the nuggets for the third spot, but the jazz did lose. Today to Oklahoma City, and it wasn't all that close Oklahoma City looked awfully good. So they're catching. The Lakers have some tough games and they've got two games against teams where their playoff positioning matters like they could really make a run here. So look the raptors were fired up to play this game. I would expect the jazz to come out and be playing with a little bit of desperation they're going to be playing against some teams that are motivated. So they're going to need to show up and match some of that intensity and some of that energy. But at the same time I, feel like Utah is a good bounceback team to go up against because they play a pretty traditional style. They can be tough. They're a good team but I feel like it's one where the Lakers should be able to handle the Utah Jazz if they're playing well and it'll be a good opportunity to kind of get things back on the right track. was interesting though to see the jazz loose in the fashion I did tell Casey today so I mean you can imagine that a combat game Monday they're going to be looking to have a bounceback game which will just turn out. You know it'll be a much more exciting game for us because both teams are going to be motivated to go out there and just get a win is Oh yeah absolutely. You know the jazz are not going to just go away. That's not what they are. That's not how they are is a team, but I think in terms of bounce back opportunities this is a good one there's not many easy games. Left. In fact, the Lakers believe the most difficult schedule. So there's not many games where you can say Oh hey, you know we get the Knicks tomorrow night that's a tune-up game right? We can just do whatever we need to do kind of get things right now they don't have those teams aren't there and the Lakers aren't GonNa be playing the Washington Wizards and are going to be playing the Phoenix Suns they're not going to be playing those lower level teams so. I think you is a good opportunity for them though it will be a battle, but I think it's one that they should win. So that's what I'm to be looking for in this next game for them to figure out a way to bounce back. In fact, I'm trying to pull up the schedule here and see who was that Utah beat just the other day. Because, they did win their first one. but I'm not seeing it right now. I'll have to who is at the House Yeah Utah Utah won their first game they lost. Okay. Yeah, they opened the whole Oh. Yeah. That's right. They open the season though because I know that. Rudy Gobert was the first guy to actually scores in the last. That's right but I'm trying to remember who they were playing I'm sure somebody will oh okay. Somebody's saying Robert Gonzales says they were playing the Pelicans that's right. I forgot about. That's the one I was forgetting I knew it was something I've watched so much basketball just today that these last my. At this point. I thought a couple of days ago was alive because I've watched about five hours. I think I top that with about seven hours today which by the way I know we don't usually do this too much but it might be worth discussing that okay. See or not. Okay. See but the PELICANS and the clippers tonight because. What I saw from the Clippers was pretty scary man Georgia's again just looking like an absolute beast out there man yeah. Yeah that was That was a blowout, but the clippers went berserk from three. They could miss home and that's what that's just that can happen if you're hot and they were also doing a really good job of attacking the paint and the young Pelicans team was terrible at getting out to open shooters. The the raptors did a great job getting onto open shooters. The PELICANS did not they gave up so many wide open corner threes and the clippers just let them up that was that was just a big big issue for them. Let's do a few more questions and comments here before we call it an evening, we've got S-. Common, here from Yawn Lathrop from Youtube said. Trevor. At this point, the role guys need to play more minutes and let them figure things out. I Want Lebron to play twenty minutes, Max Chris, what do you think do you if you're afraid Vogel do you rein in Lebron James and Anthony Davis a little bit at this point and trim their minutes and try and try to keep them healthy or do you want them to get a rhythm going and so you play the more their normal minutes where where do you sit with that? That's a good question You know I would probably I kind of like what he's getting I don't know if I would tap it twenty minutes, but I would definitely not give them a full schedule. You mean like I would not necessarily just put Lebron ad out there a bunch of extra minutes just because we're trying get a W.. In one of these upcoming six games I mean. I would yeah, I would just figure out a set time that they need or they even personally think they need to get the rhythm and I would just leave it at that and I would just hope that we can get. We can continue to get this kind of bench production. Really. So like you say, even do maybe shave a couple of minutes off Lebron a DJ so we're saving them for the playoffs. That's. That might be the best case scenario but again, especially if you're able to get what you got from Caruso. Coups and waiters tonight because the more we see those guys cook and. That's GONNA. Make me feel good regardless of whether we win or lose the next two games at have coups keeps looking like this version, the coups. Again, I'll just that's going to be one of the big things from. Yeah. Absolutely. That's going to be huge tonight Anthony Davis and Lebron both played thirty five minutes, which is about normal for the regular season. It feels like that's the path. The Lakers have chosen to try to give them regular season minutes. Let them play through things We'll see if that works again when when. Lebron To the basket and Kyle lowry slid under him. I went all know like time stood still for splits split-second there because I I hate that play I hated hated hated I hate the charge I hate seeing that that when a guy is in the air players are sliding over because you can't block the shot and so they're trying to take charge and look. I get it. You're trying to sell out for your team and all that sorta stuff, but it's so dangerous and Lebron hits his shoulder on the floor I went. Oh No, that's what I don't want it. So I'm not against cutting their minutes down but I feel for the most part. Lebron. Hundred. Okay. Job of kind of reserving themselves holding back a little bit. But at the same time. They're good. They're out there they're trying to win. and. So it's going to be something where we're going to hold our breath every time they go to the basket like that I don't know if a minutes limit though is really going to change that all that much they can. They can get hurt and twenty minutes then get hurt thirty five minutes but but you're right though about coups Makusa, twenty, eight minutes tonight he was tremendous waiters twenty two. Alex. Caruso Twenty Four These are the guys that are going to have to do the heavy lifting. There's just no if ands or buts about it. I do want to finish up with two centers though. So Javale McGee and Dwight Howard joint. mccower D-. I didn't like it I didn't like what we saw from those two guys tonight I was not. There's a lot of guys I pick on tonight but I've felt like jail and Dwight just they just didn't seem to have it tonight and part of that was their coverage part of that was getting pulled away from the basket trying to defend Marcus Saul but it felt like they just weren't quite sharp this evening and so that's something that that we're going to need to see improvement from because the Lakers need those guys. Well. The question is is how many thousand? Howard gets out like how is this whole lot rivalry with the refs going? Did you do out? So I'm looking at Dwight Howard only had two thousand and one of them was legit. One of them was for bad. He got a steel and again and these these the plays that drive you crazy drives me crazy and soccer too by the way when somebody's about to lose the ball and then they fall down. And this happens all the time in soccer. As soon as you stay up, stay up stay up and then right when you lose the ball room to make sure you get the call and that's something that that we saw Leonard do for the clippers when he was losing the ball Lebron was defending him, he just fell down and so the referee would would call it and that happened to Dwight tonight as well. But. Overall. He only got two fouls and so I guess you'll. You'll take that. But I think he was all that effective out there on the floor he had fi- boards one block five points to two shooting. But he did miss a couple of opportunities javale McGee was pretty invisible four boards. One block three points had one real wild shot on a runner in the paint that I didn't like just wasn't smart. So I just didn't think. They weren't. Killing the Lakers or anything it wasn't like Danny Green Missing Wide Open threes hurting the Lakers, it was. Just kind of being invisible. They just weren't there and I guess that was the that was the unfortunate part for them tonight. Why I think I think you you kind of summed it up I mean that's kind of what happens when the opposing has a big man who can shoot you know for the most part and it's not because I, know you just pointed out details offense but you know that's a good point. You know like assault can shoot. So really you're really taking dwight and Jay bail out of the game 'cause I mean that's The biggest contribution they give to their team is outside of rebounders interior defense. So I mean any team that's got a big man that can shoot is kind of Forgive me for the lack of a better term but kind of new. Defensively. So you know. You know it's. Aspect. It's a bad batch of fries. I guess roller when it comes to those that's the and that's something that they'll run into again. Should they if they get the NBA finals and you see Brook Lopez out there that's a challenge. Somebody was asking me about the Houston Rockets saying the rockets a bad match up. I don't love the match up with the rockets and the second round I'm getting question from Youtube. How possible do you think it is we play the rockets in the second round I think jazz and thunder schedule look easier hoping the clippers have to face them I I agree one hundred percent and I think I would much rather see the jazz or the thunder instead of the rockets personally. But yeah that that would be certainly a tough match-up and one where you can't really use these bigs. In a game like the rockets be just because they play so small and they play so weird I guess man named the other night. They. Had that beat had them beat multiple times and the rocket still come back Robert Covington tips that bullet and they got the win I'm like. I WanNa see the rockets stay in that six seed so that they are on the clippers side of the bracket. I don't WanNa see them sneak into that four or five matchup, and then over to the Lakers side I would much rather see the clippers have to deal with the rockets even though I think the clippers can deal with the rockets there equipped to do it but I'd rather see the clippers have to deal with them the Lakers. Gosh that game was so weird to watch too. That's the one. Didn't they overturn? And so I couldn't even like watching it was almost like my computer froze. You know you see PJ Tucker defending crystal presumably. but they get away with it. Gye but I mean I wanted a funny highlights of that day was. I'm sure. A lot of people saw the camera that was in Russell Westbrook's Locker Room I. thought that was pretty alerted. I didn't. There's a those clips of it on instagram everything, but they had a camera on was Russell Westbrook in the locker room and he was just. Stern a hole through it is you know like it was almost like what the heck is this camera doing it here like what? You gotta you gotTa Look Pretty Good Farrah. got a weird. Weird. Match at the rockets my goodness. Yeah that's that's the issue and that's why I'd rather not see them. I think the Lakers can beat them but I'd rather not have to do with it. That's that's what I'd be looking for. Okay. Let's do one more question. and. Then we will call it an evening here again Lakers take on the jazz six o'clock Pacific Time on Monday. You find one good one here. Okay. So try to help you look. So I've got Omni. Curry. From you sorry I'm bad with names guys trevor is there anything you worry about with the jazz next? Yes look the the jazz have Mike. Conley, and then they also have Donovan Mitchell. So you're dealing with those two really good guards. That I mean, that's an avery Bradley Game Right, that's a game where you would really need Brad. The MIC question is Ken Casey p stick with one of them. If not, that could lead to some trouble. The jazz are pretty smart team I like what they do with Joe. INGLES. He makes them some smart plays for them out there on the floor, and then they've got Rudy Gobert at the rim this game where the Lakers bigs are. Going to have to really step it up and at least be presence against Gobert But other than that I feel like it's a game, the Lakers should win they match up pretty well, if they can keep those guards from going off of Utah's GonNa win it's going to be because Mitchell and or commonly really got going in the Lakers couldn't keep them out of the paint and that and then we'll be saying again gosh, we need. Bradley. Yeah. Because you know even just the magic and now imagining Casey pugh trying to guard Donovan, Mitchell I just I don't know. Yeah I don't like that even. He might have an easier job with Conley. But still man. It's not picking on Casey because he's been good for us. But for him, some of these matchups men are just you know I I have nightmares thinking about Casey p having the guard Paul, George and Kawhi. Leonard, in that clippers, you know what I mean so. It just it is. It. Is What it is. But I think we should we should get a W. in that game as well and Yeah Dwight Howard. mcghee unlike you know tonight, they're going to be really necessary in that game to battle the Big French, mother. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely and you know what? I look at the jazz and I think, okay who do they have? That's really going to try to lockdown. Lebron. They're not going to do a lot to stop. He should have a big performance in this one. They also need to the Lakers need to get Anthony, Davis going and they need to get a bounce back performance from him but but again, I think this is a game they should win the jazz are a more standard team than you would see against say like the rockets or somebody like that or even the Dallas Mavericks go small a ton of being the ball all over the place the jazz can do it there passing can be good but I feel like they're just they're wrong or two below the top top teams in the League so I think the Lakers can walk away with the windier. And that's what I am certainly expecting. All right guys, let's wrap things up there. Appreciate all the questions, questions and comments coming in from Youtube from periscope from facebook. Great stuff. As always we know a frustrating game tonight it was a hard one to watch. It wasn't a whole lot of fun. So my recommendation would be tomorrow or later tonight if you WANNA kinda get rid of this feeling go watch that clippers gaming in go watch that one. Watch that one more time and let's move onto the next one and we'll take a look at Lakers vs jazz on Monday evening. All right guys make sure you're heading over to Lakers nation dot com your home for everything Lakers. Don't forget follow us across social media at. Lakers nation on twitter and facebook. Lakers nation official on instagram and don't forget to follow Chris Masters at Christmas on. Twitter at Chris Masters Three one O on Instagram and he can find me at Trevor Underscore Lane on twitter at Trevor Lane NBA on Instagram Also, I will be back on Ktla five tomorrow morning at seven fifteen to do a sports breakdown on their their morning news show. So you can check out there tomorrow morning at seven fifteen as well. So that'll be a lot of fun. Are Gasol. Till next time so you stay safe.

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Lakers Defeat Pistons In Double Overtime

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Lakers Defeat Pistons In Double Overtime

"Bleeding purple and gold from the Heart of Los Angeles. Yes. Here's the lakersnation.com podcast with your host Trevor Lane. Hello Lakers Nation. Welcome and the Lakers get the win in double overtime. Yeah, that was kind of a joyless game until the bron James got going on a double OT, I believe at 8 points there in the second overtime, but they get the win over the Pistons takes double overtime to get it done while we've got a lot to talk about and a lot of it is not pleasant. A lot of it is not good. Not the way we wanted to go into Super Bowl Sunday. Certainly Piggly when you're playing one of the worst teams in the NBA in the Detroit Pistons Pistons, you are also for missing Blake Griffin and Derrick Rose. So we're going to break down exactly what happened why it happened ways that that can be fixed, especially coming off of such an incredible performance, especially in the second half against the Denver Nuggets. So what went down will break it all down. We're going to be taking your questions and comments as well. So if you're coming in from YouTube from Facebook from Periscope welcome and I am traveling from lakersnation.com. This is the Lakers Nation live show. We are going to be doing something tonight. We're going to give away some lakersnation.com license plate frames, but if you haven't heard we actually do have a Kobe Bryant Jersey contest going on right now where you can win one of the blue Kobe Bryant jerseys the the Blue version of the city Edition Jersey from this season, and you can get that one. It's a number 8 Kobe jersey. And all you got to do is make sure you are subscribed to the Lakers Nation YouTube channel, make sure I turned on notifications and then you've gone through the link that's in the description down below and you can you can do that and get all signed up for it. So really cool. That's the first place prize you get your own Kobe Bryant's jersey and we're giving away 17 second place prizes that it is a Lakers Nation grab-bag. We're giving away one for every Championship. The Lakers have won and in there will be a lakersnation.com water bottle. Also be a lakersnation.com license plate frame tee shirt and some stickers as well. So some good second place prizes and additions. So even if you don't get the Kobe jersey, you might get something else. That's pretty cool. So make sure you guys followed link down below and you get into our contest. All right, let's get into it. Let's do this. It's not going to be pretty but let's get through this thing here. The Lakers wage 35 to 1:29. LeBron James and Anthony Davis 33 for LeBron 11 assists for steel seven turnovers 1326 shooting no problem there three of seven from Deep including a couple of big ones off wot, Anthony Davis 30 points only five rebounds. What is going on there? Only five rebounds for Anthony Davis to blocks 3 assists 143 from Deep hasn't changed very many threes lately. So I guess we'll take that he made that he made one but the big number here is not so much the points. They scored Anthony Davis 45 minutes LeBron James 46 minutes. That's too many. That's the problem with coming out here in a game where you should be resting those guys in the fourth quarter. They shouldn't have to play at all. This should be a like 28-minute night off from both of those guys and instead you've doubled that right almost. Hey instead, you've got them playing 45 and 46 minutes that's crazy days. They should not be having to play that many minutes against a team like the Detroit Pistons and I think it comes down to the mental side of things right when you are approaching a game like this we talked about this in the pregame show talked about the Lakers needed to come out and get some Revenge they needed to use that as motivation the fact that the Pistons beat them the last time they played them not just over a week ago, and apparently they didn't do that. Well, I did for some stretches at one point the Lakers would 17-point lead. And then they stopped just stopped stopped scoring the basketball. They went between the fourth quarter and then into the first overtime the Lakers went over six minutes outside of point. Didn't put the ball in the basket. That is a long scoring drought at a terrible time. And again, let's give some credit to the Pistons here. I mean Josh Jackson my goodness. He got going 28 points five of ten deep. He willed them back to life in the fourth quarter, but still the Lakers need to take care of business and come out with the energy that's required to put a team away. They just kind of assumed the Pistons were going to go away and they didn't credit the Detroit they kept fighting but the Lakers didn't do what they needed to do. And as a result you've now put extra minutes on to LeBron James and Anthony Davis, that's the downside right now again, the good thing at least they didn't get a loss. They won the game certainly important that they won this game and I think it's a especially when you're trying to keep Pace with the other page at the top of the NBA, but then a shorter 22 points for boards eight assists really solid outing from him 14 from kuzma. Kyle kuzma. I tried out a new nickname for kuzma on a video that I released earlier today. The chameleon Kyle kuzma. I called The Boy Who Lived nice little Harry Potter reference there, but I think we can go on the chameleon because Four Seasons every single season Kyle kuzma has had to change his game change his role with the Lakers and he's had to adapt on the Fly and that's exactly what he's done. And I think we are seeing the best Kyle kuzma right now, even though his points are down. His usage rate is down everything else. He's doing though is much better. He's more rebounds more Blocks. He's his defensive rating is better than it's ever been his 3-point percentage better than it's ever been. So nice performance today from Caguas Magan 14 and 6 Montrezl Harrell only seven points only seven for trades but eight boards two Steals and then 10 a piece for tht and Alex Caruso. We do have to have faith a little talk here about Talen Horton Tucker, but let me get into some of these comments. All right. Well, let's let's address this right off the top from YouTube Joseph Pellegrino. And by the way, Joseph guys suck. Whose name I called during the show. Yeah, you get a lakersnation.com license plate frame. All you got to do is send me your name and mailing address on Twitter. Send it to at Trevor underscore Lane, right? There's a d m and I will send you a lakersnation.com license plate frame. So Joseph Pellegrino said the refs were one-sided at the end of the game so many missed calls. Yes, and I mentioned it on back order and it's frustrating when you watch that right when you're watching that game and your Lakers fan and you already feel bad you you know, you just you're annoyed that the Lakers or even in this situation you're playing a pistol aimed that's missing to their veteran guys, Derrick Rose and Blake Griffin by the way sounded like Derrick Rose is on the verge of being traded. We'll talk about that in a bit, but they're missing those guys and then the referees are missing calls missing files calling fouls for the Pistons not calling fouls when the Lakers are doing similar things. It's frustrating but you always gotta go back to the Lakers should be dead. His position these calls shouldn't matter referees are human. They're going to miss calls sometimes and yes, it can be extremely frustrating but they should not matter this game should be a 20-point Lakers lead right now, and we wouldn't be complaining about the calls because the game would be over instead. The Lakers were still playing and that is our own fault. They they shot themselves in the foot all night long. Hopefully, this is a good lesson. But again, we thought we thought that maybe they would have learned this last time they played the Pistons, but it doesn't appear that they did because they definitely took their foot off the gas pedal. People ask you. Why is this double o t that's what we were asking during the game if you missed the game and you're just coming in and you're seeing double OT what happened? I don't know what to tell you. Look the Lakers Shaq an incredible percentage from the field, but they turned the ball over like crazy. They were so sloppy with the basketball and we talked about this again on the pregame show we talked about how they needed to come out sharp and focused. That's it even 80% effort and just be focused. And you win this game, but instead they turned it over turned it. In fact, they cleaned up their turnovers mostly and OT and still finished the game with 22 turnovers 2252 turnovers for this Lakers team. That was their Achilles heel tonight. They just kept turning the ball over one time after another seven for LeBron James. But again, his usage rate is so high you expect the turnovers to be up there three or four router three apiece for Caruso and Talen Horton Tucker. Not the best Alex Caruso game. He still made some decent plays down the stretch, but the three turnovers are not like him usually plays much better basketball than that. What was with the turnovers? Well, I think they were forcing things. I really feel like just mentally you felt like the The Cutting was not quite right. The timing on Thursday was just a little bit off and then they tried to force things a little bit too much because I think they felt they could get away with it that hey if we turned the ball over this time, we saw a lot of guys just kind of say okay my bad there wasn't that sense of urgency like, oh we cannot turn the ball over against this team. They had that in the second half against the Denver Nuggets this game. They didn't they didn't have that sense of we could actually lose this thing and I didn't like some of the body language once the Pistons caught up the Lakers just kind of went I didn't see the anger that you want to see out of them. The fire didn't really see you tonight. and that was kind of the case last used I remember this being an issue at that point too and to a degree that can be a good thing when you have a team who doesn't get too high doesn't get too low stays on an even Keel throughout the season a positive to that but still from the fans side you're watching this you're frustrated you want to see the Lakers get frustrated and it just go out there and take it out on the Pistons and say no okay we're not letting this happen we're going to just win this game and take you down and they didn't do that until the bron James hit some threes and double O T I think LeBron James at that point we just Don he said look I want to go home guys so I'm just going to hit a couple of threes make sure there's nothing you can do about it and let's just go okay that's kind of what LeBron did to finish this thing off Anthony Davis, let's talk about him. Let's talk about this cuz a lot of people are mentioning this Garvin from Facebook Anthony Davis's Rim protection looks so bad and he didn't seal Plumley on that back door pass from Brown. He's playing softball. Okay, let's talk about it Anthony Davis. I've been saying for a while now and we just talked about a couple of days ago. That a d We Shouldn't Judge this what month long maybe slump that he's been in where he's not hitting free. Throws hasn't been shooting. Well from the from the field and took three or four from the line tonight, which is fine, but we shouldn't judge him just based on a small stretch. That's not fair. He's at an entire career of being dominant incredible both ends of the floor. That's what we should take as who Anthony Davis really is we shouldn't look at this as okay A D is that guy right now? He's just he's just this player now. then there was a play tonight and I know there were a lot of places we could point you but there was this one in particular just stood out Josh Jackson gets Anthony Davis one-on-one a d is from memory he's about a step below the free throw line Josh Jackson does a little Shack he drives to his right and scores the layup Anthony Davis took a little step and and I was like waiting as soon as I saw Jackson make the move I'd my my head said Anthony Davis's and I was kind of blocked this he's going to go to shoot a layup and Anthony Davis is going to get this thing into the stands because that's what he would have done last year tonight He kind of just stopped and he watched him score to the point. It was it was so noticeable that I grabbed my phone and I had stayed away from the box score for most of the night cuz I'm down to just watch the game and just absorb it that way and not worry about individual stats just kind of taking it and I actually grabbed my phone and pulled up the box score cuz I'm like is Anthony Davis and foul trouble and I didn't know what I assumed. Okay, maybe he's got like four or five fouls or something right now and he can't get any contact. That's that must be what just happened. He had one fellow at that point one foul. Something's going on there where he's just not quite as explosive and you know there have been some people who have been talking Draymond Green had some comments earlier today about certain players who are not in as good of shape as they should be at this point. Now wonder if he was talking about Anthony Davis as pure speculation on my part, by the way, I'm not saying that's who he was talking about cuz he didn't name names but it was a play like that that range hood out made me think gosh is indeed. Just not fully in shape. Maybe he needs an All-Star break at this point cuz Anthony Davis normally would have judged enveloped that shot. There is no way especially was that a fairly critical point in the game. There's no way Josh Jackson would have scored that on him uncontested. And yet he did so I know there's a lot of people asking about Anthony Davis in the chat. I don't know that it's something where we should be sounding the alarm. Cuz if it is like let's say he's a he's a little out of shape right insanely quick turnaround insanely, right 71 days between the end of the season when they won an NBA championship and starting the new season. So what if he is a little out of shape what if maybe he just doesn't quite have his legs under him yet. Well that's going to change by playoff time. That's something that can be fixed. But sometimes it can be tough when you're also playing games so often so maybe there's something that can be done there. Maybe the All-Star break will help out Anthony Davis. We'll see but it's something where The Lakers need to get this figured out by playoff time cuz you need you need playoff level Anthony Davis when that time rolls around you notice his free-throw attempts are down and shooting about two less free. Throw attempts per game and part of that is he's attacking the basket less if he's feeling like he's athleticism isn't there right now that could explain why we're seeing him shoot more jumpers the positive side to it which again we talked about our last show is that he's also hitting the ground a lot less. He's crashing to the floor a lot less. So I think that that's the good side of it the bad side though is the plays like this where a d normally would just suck race a shot. Suddenly. They're scoring. In fact, I looked up the stat a couple of days ago. And as of right now opponents are shooting better at The Rim against Anthony Davis, then they do on average. They have a better field goal percentage at The Rim when Anthony Davis is the defender then they normally do Yeah, they were like minus 12% or something like that last year at The Rim against Anthony Davis. Something is very very different right now something and ad was asked about it and he was asked about it and he said, you know, he's just focusing on the other areas of his game defending and and making sure that he's making the right play for his teammates and and all that sort of stuff and that people were complaining offense. I don't think it's just as offense. There's something up but hopefully it's something that he can play through figure it out get his legs under him and then he'll be good to go by playoff time. That's the big black people say you should get the master lock tonight. I I think the Lakers will sense that. Well, I shouldn't give it away. But the Lakers sense of urgency probably should get the master lock tonight. Somebody says talk about Talen. Mr. Tornado from YouTube says talk about tht, please. Let's do it. Let's talk about Talen horton-tucker. We saw a great Talen horton-tucker performance last game against the Denver Nuggets. He was phenomenal tonight. You say you saw the good and the bad didn't you the LeBron James touchdown pass? How much fun was that on the eve of the Super Bowl LeBron James touchdown pass to Talen horton-tucker for the jam. That was fun. It was a great play Caitlin Horton Tucker number kind of crafty reverse Labs. I'm seeing people start to notice though. He's not really finishing with his left hand much maybe something that he's going to incorporate but then we also saw the bad side. We saw him suck in to the paint when Mason Plumlee was ten feet away from the basket backing down and John Davis. And Talen Horton Tucker helped off of Josh Josh Jackson the hottest player on the floor and gave up an open 3 to him. There was no reason Anthony Davis could have been defensive player of the year last year. No, he's not playing that well right now but I will live with Anthony Davis defending Mason Plumlee who is not known for creating offense himself. I'll live with that playing straight up. There was no reason to do that. And especially if for whatever reason you decide you're going to help on to Mason Plumlee off. Why that thought would even cross your mind. I don't know. You're not leaving the hottest player on the floor who just hit a number of threes and pulled the Pistons back into the game. But that's what tht did a couple of plays later. He did something similar where he took off early didn't get back in time and gave up the three. He thought the Lakers had to turn over then as it turned out. They didn't and gave up a 3-pointer his man knocked it down. So we saw the good in the bat. We saw some Dynamic offense. We saw him attacking the basket. We saw some good passes from Talen horton-tucker. We also saw some mental mistakes defensive end, but again twenty years old. We should expect this. We should expect him to make some mistakes. I think Frank Vogel would have been Justified to pull him tonight based on the defensive issues that he had engaged in Frank stuck with them decided to stick with him say, you know what we're going to write it out and we're going to live with it, but that might be the window the mistakes THD made tonight could be opening that window off. Little bit for Wes Matthews to get back into the rotation or to get some minutes. I think that might be what we see. We'll see where it where coach vogo goes with it. But again, we saw the good and the bad tonight for Taylor Tucker still very high on him long-term. We should expect these types of performances every now and then and again this is coming off of what was one of his better games against the Denver Nuggets. So we can't complain too much about Dave and Tucker still an incredible talent, but we saw the areas where if it's playoff time. You probably can't have them out here if out there if he's making those mental mistakes on the defensive end. So those things are just something to keep an eye on and something to have to get cleaned up. Young Milo talk about the rest. We already did the refs. The refs were bad. No question referees struggled in this one, but the Lakers should have taken care of business much much earlier. Benjamin Moore Trevor, what do you think about Dewayne dedmon or Thon maker for additional Rim protection? Sure. Sure. Look, I'm open to other Rim protectors coming in other skill sets checking in from that big position. I think that's what they need the most right now. But the Lakers can add anybody for another few weeks February 24th is what my buddy keeps Smith from realgm Yahoo. Does the NBA front-office show with me if you caught that over on the Lakers Nation YouTube channel, we did the math and it's February 24th. That's when the Lakers could sign a 15 player or I think it's might even be more likely they just wait until the buyout Market which would take place March 25th is the trade deadline. So right after that we would see buyout start to take place. So it could be a little bit for the Lakers add another big Marcus song self on the night 1421 from 1 from 3. One block Five Points to boards nothing that stood out as particularly great tonight. I mean he knocked down to three which will certainly take that I don't understand why Gasol attacks close thoughts. I guess he kind of has two but when he's behind the three-point line and he gets someone flying at him and they jumped he puts the ball on the floor and he dribbles like he's going to attack the basket but he's so slow that the defender always catches right back up to him. And so, you know, he doesn't really get any way you don't get any benefit from doing that. So, I don't know I would like to see Marcus off rather if he's going to get a guy jumping at him like that if he's going to take a step in at least try to draw a Defender try to burst forward quick and well, I guess he doesn't burst but do something to try to draw another Defender at least make yourself a threat off and then kick the ball to somebody else if you're not going to able to get all the way to the rim. We also saw him right at The Rim tonight. It was a foul. I believe it was LeBron dish the past him and he was right at The Rim. Goes up. They credited Mason Plumlee for a block. It was a foul. He went across his arms. But still that was the play where five years ago gazala's dunking that and I bought it wound up being a fast break down the other way or Detroit. So again, you saw some negatives there certainly, but he also had some decent moments against Nikola jokic last night and that's really kind of what you've got them for em. All right, let's do an award. Let's do the Third Man Award. Here we go. Apparently my third Man Award graphic did not show up just like the Lakers. So whatever was going on with the Lakers tonight apparently also affected my thoughts toward graphic. Well, we can still do the award them. So my third man tonight, I think it's very clear cut. We were talking last show about how much I like having nights where there's multiple guys. There's like five or six guys where we can make Arguments for them being the third man of the night tonight. I think it's pretty obvious. I guess I can make an argument for two guys, but one really stood out to me and not going to defer to the plus-minus on this when the runner-up is Kyle kuzma. I thought he had a very very nice performance tonight 25 minutes again, 14.6 boards 3 or 5 from 3 solid outing from Conchas my date a video earlier today. Check it out on the Lakers Nation YouTube channel all about Kyle kuzma and why he has been so good for the Lakers this season, but no the third man for the night. It's Dennis Schroder. Come on, 22 points eight assists for board seven of nine shooting and eight of eight from the free throw line made some nice plays for the Lakers got things going and then they trust him to knock down those clutch free throws and he sure did. So Dennis Schroder I believe is the clear Third Man of the night. So we're given that one to him. Somebody's mentioning Firestarter says the commentators said it wasn't a foul on Anthony Davis when his wrist was slapped on that second OT dunk replay shows the foul and they said good no-call Firestarter. I'm assuming you were watching the Detroit feed cuz I didn't notice that on the Lakers feed, but that's yeah. I thought it was a bad call or a bad. No call it should have been a foul-mouthed and Anthony Davis should have been at the line for an and-one. Somebody mentioned Derrick Rose here Derrick Rose going to the Clippers. My email said Is it true Derrick Rose might go to the Clippers, right? So and yes somebody threw in the chameleon. Yeah. Absolutely the chameleon that's the nickname. I'm going to use I think I'm going to keep the boy who lived but I'm also going to use the chameleon for Kyle kuzma, but the question about Derrick Rose are the Clippers interested. Yes, we've heard the Clippers are interested in Derrick Rose. Not a surprise at all. They were interested in him last year. He is another point guard they could use he's a school. Beauregard that's something that they need they need another ball handling guard. I think they are going to get somebody is it going to be Derrick Rose? Well right now according to the report that came out earlier from shops tironea. It's the Knicks that are having talks with the Pistons about Derrick Rose. Now the deal is not done or anything like that, but I think it's interesting that it's the Knicks like the Knicks know De Niro's really. I mean he used to be a New York Knick so they know him but you look at the New York Knicks. You would think it's a title contending team that's going to go after a veteran like Derrick Rose. the Knicks are the 7 seed the Knicks are in the 7th seat and they're going after Derrick Rose I understand it from the point of it's been forever since the next event in the playoffs I really don't remember when the last time the next were in the playoffs was I'm sure Knicks fans can tell me but the Knicks are the 7 seed right now and I can see where the mindset now is let's hold on to this please God let us hold on to this right the Knicks of going to be hoping and praying that they make the playoffs this year because it's been such a positive year for them I mean look they're they're negative and point differential wage But they're eleven and thirteen couple of games below 500. They're in the playoffs in the East right now. It's been a long time since they've been this successful. And they just picked up a big win yesterday. And who's that they they were playing the Blazers. There's beat the Blazers yesterday. That's a pretty big win for them. So this next team is looking to make moves to add pieces. But here's what I'm concerned about Immanuel quickley. This guy this guy has been everything they've been looking for he has been tremendous for them and you bring in Derrick Rose and that makes you wonder if quickly is going to quickly lose minutes if that's going to happen. So that would be my concern if I was a Knicks fan would be hey Derrick Rose. Is he going to eat in too quickly as minutes. If he does I don't want any part of that. But if not, if they have another way to get around it, then I could understand the next just saying. Hey, we want to make sure we've got a steady veteran who can help get us into the playoffs. We want to break the streak I get that and if they can keep Rose away from the Clippers great. I don't see the Lakers getting Rose. I don't see the need for him this season last season. Yeah, they had a need this season. I don't see the need at this stage month. So I think they have a bigger need at the the center position. Robert Gonzales, Trevor, what about the cruise million? I like that. I like that but I don't know. I'm trying to decide do I want to go with who's million and I've heard that a couple of times today or do I want to go with them would just the chameleon whose mother chameleon do I just go with alliteration? I don't know. Maybe you guys are the chat can help me out with with that one. But in any event, I do think it's cheating nickname given how adaptable Kyle kuzma has been somebody just put Julius Randle in all caps. Absolutely. I'm here for it. I'm a long-standing resident of ran Long Island. I have not given up my faith and Randall will be a solid player in this NBA and he has been very very good for the next this season. Who's my chameleon? Shantay from YouTube is Frank making mistake not playing Matthews and Morris. No, I don't think so. I don't think so. And here's why if Matthews in Morristown playing extremely well and then Frank Vogel benched him and said now guys, I want to go to a nine-man rotation. So sorry. Okay, right, then we could say he's make a mistake cuz you took too productive players and you bench them. That's not what's happening though Markieff Morris and West Matthews were both struggling and the Lakers lineups with them in it were struggling remember it was like a week and a half ago. We were talking about the really terrible. No good Awful Lakers lineup that I suggested a little change and Frank Vogel applied it and it worked and that was to remove Markieff Morris and replace it with Taylor home sure. That was that lineup of LeBron. Kuzma Markieff Morris Montrezl Harrell. That was your your mix in there. And then I think it was Caruso and just didn't have enough creators on the floor there and so that wasn't working so it wasn't like Markieff Morris was setting the world on fire neither was Wesley Matthews and I think a ten man rotation is somebody mentions the Lakers vs. Pistons finals. Dj-jo says it goes to seven games. Oh gosh, let's let's not even get let's not even think about that Lakers and pistons meeting in the finals, but no, I don't think I am. Benching those guys was Matthews and Markieff Morris was the wrong call because a ten man rotation sometimes even eleven man rotation. That's really tough. That's hard for the players who are on the floor to get a rhythm particularly the choice were coming off the bench and are only seeing like thirteen fourteen, maybe fifteen minutes that's hard for them to really get into the flow of the game. And so to create a little bit more consistency Vogel said, okay. Well, I'm going to chop this down a little bit but we still need some creators off the dribble. And so we're going to go with tht so we bench West Matthews and Markieff Morris. I don't think that's the end of those guys. We will still see them but as long as the nine-man rotation is working I think things stay the same maybe you can argue that tonight was the breaking point and you can say all right. Well some things really weren't working here. So we need to change something. I don't think we're there just yet, but we'll see what Frank Vogel says in his his post game tonight. I'm seeing more votes more votes for Coos million and somebody said he can't get over 30 minutes to save his life. Yeah, I was a little bit surprised that goes I'm only played 25 minutes when I look at the the box score surprised that that was the case. I thought for sure in a double OT game. He would have played more minutes, but instead we essentially saw the bulk. Well, I mean the bench all played similar minutes thought it was K CP schruder LeBron and Anthony Davis who all had over forty minutes. Everybody else was below 30. So that's where all the minutes went. Kcp. Not the best night. He was a plus-15 five boards three assists one steal one block only four points to 6 shooting over one from 3. I don't know. It's he started off the season so hot from deep and it just didn't really have the opportunities to get going tonight. I thought he was fine defensively, but I would like to see a little bit more just in terms of volume and we can look at This game maybe it's just a one-off. You did have a few rough performances here towards the end of January, but then against the Hawks he was 34614 3 against the Nuggets. I'd like to see Casey be put up a probably four or five threes at least per game. At least and tonight obviously only one in 42 minutes is not great. I think the Lakers can do a better job getting him some open looks. Somebody says what's kcp gets out of his slump will be all right, you know, it's not even just that he's in a slump. It's that they're the Lakers aren't locating him with the basketball like they used to and part of that is I'm sure defense is have the way he shot early in the season and they've corrected a little bit to make sure they don't leave him. But I'd also like to see well kcp be a little bit more aggressive in terms of pulling the trigger on his shot. But I'd like to see them is doing a few other actions in order to try to get him those open looks because I do think they need him. They need him hitting those. Let's see here a couple more questions. We do need to get into the Master Lock of the night. Somebody mentioned Caillou board and said should the Lakers trade for Robin Lopez. Well, they can't really I mean, I guess they could but who are you going to give up? Who are you going to give up to the Washington because you're hard cap. So you can't take on any salary. So Robin Lopez off top of my head is making seven point five million. So that means that if you're the Lakers you have to send out somebody make 7.5 million or more or more. So which lake are you sending out that's making that much money. Right Markieff Morris is a vet minimum Marcus all I know some of you would love to get rid of him. He's a vet minimum. Quinn cook vet minimum Who are you sending out Dudley's a vet minimum? They they don't make enough to make a move work. Who's my you're not swapping him? And he's still on his rookie deal right now. He doesn't get onto his bigger contract next season and he's poison pill provisions of trading him is is tough. Caruso doesn't make enough money. You can't make that deal now, I will say if Robin Lopez gets bought out. Come on down. That's where the Lakers need to get active on the Bayou Mark and that's after March 25th. I think he'd be a really nice addition and it would make a lot of sense for the Washington Wizards to move on from him. So if he does hit the buyout Market hundred percent. Yes, I like the suggestion there as far as bringing in Rob Lopez a trade doesn't really work just doesn't work logistically for the Lakers. But if there's a buyout situation, yep, I'm on Board sign me up. let's see here they could do it gets YouTube says Trevor will we see McKinney play any mini meaningful minutes this year well he's got to earn those minutes we really only seen him in garbage times so far and keep in mind how difficult it is to crack in this year when the Lakers aren't really practicing They're not practicing and that's not just a Lakers thing that's most teams around the NBA. The games are basically are their practices. They have walked through they can look at things in the film room, but that's it. They don't have time to practice because they're going through testing and all that sort of stuff and they have a more condensed schedule than usual so you don't have practices month. So when is McKinney supposed to prove himself and earn minutes if the coaches can't see him in practice? That's the challenge. So instead they're just getting them in garbage time. Now, I will say this though the Lakers. You notice that we haven't really seen to find take a cock and Kostas. Antetokounmpo. Antetokounmpo has been dealing with some injuries. But Devon J K. Kha he's on a two-way contract. Why are we not seeing these guys? I think it's interesting because the two way players they can play in 50 games this year 50 games they can play in and the Lakers so far have saved them up. I wonder if we're going to start to see these guys at some point during the season at some point. The Lakers get through this early part of the schedule build one of our chemistry. They're trying to build and then they say, okay, let's hold back just a little bit. Let's rest up. I'm talking maybe about the 75-page maybe the 70% Mark of the season and you start sprinkling in some game starts sprinkling in some minutes for some of these other guys, you get some rest of the Braun you get some rest Anthony Davis and then you push down the Gas Pedal again finish the season strong and then you head into the playoffs with some momentum. I wonder if that's the plan. I just think it's interesting that we really haven't seen the two-way guys when they're both Biggs off both do things that the Lakers could probably use right now. And yet we're not seeing them. So I wonder if those those games are being saved for a later date for a rainy day later on in the season just in case maybe there's an injury and you need them their whole possible to but I wonder if the plan is to start to deploy them later on and use them as a way to provide depth and then rest some guys to get ready for the playoffs. Once they've gotten their legs under them. I think the office staff right now. It's trying to let all of the new guys and the the holdovers mesh as much as possible. So that's where I see that going. We'll see if I'm right on that one, though. he has no mid-range yeah I know I'm not saying he's the perfect player I'm not saying he's a great fit or anything like that but I'm saying he's good enough to where you could see him getting some minutes up there he's similar to tread in terms of dog he plays by the way let me throw this into the chat here for everybody oh somebody said happy birthday Trevor how did you guys know that like where did you find that information tomorrow is actually my birthday which by the way my my wife is amazing she got she surprised me got me these cookies this whole this whole box of cookies and they are all Lakers theme like fully decorated all this Lakers stuff on them I took a picture of I'll put them up on Instagram later on tomorrow I woke up but very very cool that that she did that so I got these awesome Lakers cookies that amount to show you guys tomorrow somebody said cuz we're stalkers that that scares me a little bit guys come on By the way, let me throw this out there. So I get to spend my birthday watching the Superbowl. So let me just throw this out to the chat who's winning. Who do you have winning the Superbowl? Is it the Chiefs off or is it my boy? Alex Kennedy's Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Let me know what you guys think who's going to win it. Scott more wider lesser-known players have big games against us. I wish I knew I wish I knew Scott I because that has it drives you guys crazy that has driven me crazy five four years of these random players would suddenly have these big big nights career-high in threes for Josh Jackson tonight career-high. This is just been a common theme where you get these games where guys just blow up against the Lakers and I guess part of it is the attention. Maybe they know you're a lot of eyes are going to be on that game. Maybe that's what it is. But either way it's weird. It's frustrating but also tell you this every fanbase feels like that to a degree every fanbase feels like man. Our team is the one that always gets somebody's career game. They all feel like that so it's just something that happens. But yes, it's certainly frustrating. I'm seeing bucks. I'm seeing Chiefs. I'm seeing people say going for Pat Mahomes. People say moms. They don't want to say Chief saying Mahomes is winning this one. Look my my head says the Chiefs are going to win this thing off. Right? My head says the Chiefs are going to win this thing because you look at the the strengths and weaknesses not to go to football here, but the strengths and weaknesses of these team the Bucks have a tremendous Rush defense. They're very good at Birth good defense of Rob, but their run defense is great and the Chiefs. Don't run it all that much. I mean they've got Clyde Edwards a layer. But but a lot of times they move him outside anyway, and Patrick Mahomes can throw them all over the field anywhere? Right. That's that's what they're good at the the bucks on the other hand their attack. They have some passing targets, but the Chiefs passing defense is actually pretty good the Chiefs rushing defense thought so great and the Bucks. Well, you've got Leonard fournette. You're not sure what you're going to get from Leonard. Fournette Ronald Jones. Maybe maybe he's coming back and he's going to be good. I think you need a monster game from at least one of those two guys in order for the bucks to have a shop. That's the way I see this thing playing out and then even if let's say Tampa Bay the game plays out exactly like they want they run the ball on the ground and they're able to chew up some yards eat up the clock get into the end zone. You're still going against Patrick Mahomes who can come down and score off in a minute. I don't know. I have a hard time seeing the Bucks win it but crazy things happen all the time because that's football and we're talking about a small sample size of one game. So I'm excited. I hope at the very least I could get a really fun thrilling game with a lot of scoring that would be that would be a blast. All right, guys, I think we need to do the Master Lock in the night. Let's see if if that video is queued up or not. We'll find out here we go Master Lock in the night. Off. All right, the Master Lock of the night worked out. I love it and that that one worked but the Master Lock of the night who is getting put in the Master Lock and you know what, I would love to say. It was the Detroit Pistons because the Lakers came out here and they got their revenge and they did everything they needed to do and the liquor shut down. I don't know a Jeremy Grant or somebody like that. That is not the way this game played out though. Not at all. So I think the Master Lock needs to go to more of not even a person or an idea concept off. And what it is is the Lakers sense of urgency deserves to be put in the Master Lock tonight. If we want to say just the whole Lakers fine. I guess the Lakers getting put in the master. Look we didn't see them come back out wanting Revenge there were some spurts. There was some spurts where they look good. They played with some energy. They got up to a 17-point lead, but they didn't put them away and that's been a common theme this season we've seen them do this take their foot off the gas pedal tonight. I know they didn't intend to but six minutes with no points scored between the end of the fourth quarter and into overtime. Yeah, that's not good. So the Lakers sense of urgency their Killer Instinct, however, you want to phrase it. That's what's getting put in the Master Lock tonight because we need that to turn around and I think it will I think the Lakers due to a degree played down to the to the level of their opponents and that is not new and it's something that a lot of very good teams have done over the years, but it's something that I would like to see changed very badly and I know you guys feel the same way so Thursday, Talk of the night goes to the Lakers sense of urgency, by the way. I'm just checking out the flick app here guys some great great stuff. and and I want to make sure that you guys know all about it because the flick app is I spend a lot of time on there talking during the games with fans. It's like a giant group text, but it's all Lakers fans. It's always Advanced and you can find the link in the bottom of any of Mine YouTube videos go on there you join up with a flake app, and then you're talking with Lakers fans all day every day. It's a ton of fun. So go check that out. And there's also some cash prizes on there. So if you make predictions for the game and you're right, you can actually win cash. They do these contests for every single game and it doesn't cost you anything. You just go in there make a few predictions for the game. And if you're right, you're right in that easy a lot of fun. So I would definitely encourage you guys to go check that out. The energy man with a good point here fans have non-realistic trade ideas. They think any team would want every player. They don't like yes and that's not just Lakers fans. That's that's just spins in general. Hey, for example, I go over onto some various NBA message boards every now and then and I kind of get a feel for what other fans are thinking what they think about the Lakers players and I see trades and things like that off and there's times when I find myself agreeing but there's a lot of times where I'm like, I do not value players the same way at all and so from our perspective we might look at a trade and think oh, that is a great deal. That'll get the Lakers the peace they need but the fans of the other team would never take that right the ownership of another team would never take that but I saw a trade deal idea that was floated out there. That was Montrezl Harrell Dennis Schroder and Talen Horton Tucker. For Kyle Lowry the Toronto Raptors. And again, this is a I don't want to start any anything here get aggregated here. This is a purely made up frame and somebody threw out there saying hey, I think this would be a good trade for both teams. That was the trade that I saw and most people who were fans of other teams were chiming in saying yeah, that's a pretty good deal or the Lakers are getting the better end of that deal. I'm seeing in the comments. You guys are reacting the way I reacted. I said no way I would never do that. There's zero chance, I would and I like Kyle Lowry a lot. There's no way I would do that. Even if it was a shrewd or Thursday. I'm not doing that. I would never touch that trade that's crazy. But other teams will look at things and value value players differently, right so often we look at trades and we're coming up with them. We have to remember that you have to have something that the other team would accept and sometimes it's hard for us to understand how another team values players and that is a big factor in terms of what gets done. And what doesn't sometimes we look at trades and we say, oh this one is so obvious. They should definitely pull the trigger on this. Well that trades not out there because this team really really loves that player. For example, when the Kings traded DeMarcus Cousins now buddy hield is turned out to be a fine player, but they essentially treated him for Buddy hield DeMarcus Cousins at the time. Everybody was saying what are the Kings doing? Why would you trade a star in cousins for an unproven guy like buddy hield? But the Kings loved buddy hield. Their owner loved him wanted to get him in the draft would trying to make things happen to get buddy hield. They valued him higher than other teams did. And so they felt like that was the right move for them. Even though most of the other teams wouldn't so that's a real factor. And so that's kind of the unknown is how do teams actually value certain players and it's something you have to consider when we're looking at we're looking at trades if there's something that you think is a home run for the Lakers that probably means it's not a great deal for the other side. People throw it out there trade Gasol. He's on a veteran-minimum deal. And they have a hard cap so you can only trade in for another veteran-minimum. Who are you trading in Fort there? There isn't logistically finding a workable deal is very very tough for them. This season doesn't mean they're not going to try Rob pelinka for sure. He will try but it's not going to be easy. It's going to be very tough. So finding a good trade for them is going to be difficult. Yes guys. I see you see a lot of people saying Mo Bamba in the chat here. I don't know what the situation is. As far as Mo Bamba goes in terms of AC on the market is I haven't looked into that any of that right now. But again, logistically the Lakers pulling off a trade is tough, but does he have the skillset? Yes terms of skill set. That's what I think. The Lakers are kind of lacking right now. People mentioned Jared Allen. I do not see the the Cavs trading it they are very happy. They got them. Somebody said who you got Trev bucks or chiefs. I still Chiefs again. My head says that the Chiefs are winning this I know they won last year. And so there's kind of that. We'd send us human beings we tend to want to root for the underdog and so that pushes us maybe more towards Buccaneers unless unless you are one of those people that just didn't just hated the Patriots and so because you were anti Tom Brady for so long you've transferred that to the box. And so you'd rather see the Chiefs win money. That could be a factor. I've seen a number of people with that opinion, but my head says the Chiefs win this so I'm going with that but I really hope that the Bucks are able to make a good game of this and we get home some excitement. I always like it when you can finish the NFL season with a lot of excitement. can we waive Gasol and McKinney sure but it won't help you it doesn't help at all because those contracts will still be on the books they're not getting wiped out there guaranteed contracts and you have a hard cap if there was no hard cap the Lakers could keep spending and you could add another veteran minimum player but because there's that hard cap there's that ceiling that they can't pass kassala salary McKinney salary they would still sit there and you wouldn't be able to add any other pieces so you would you would literally be hurting your own team you would be creating open roster spots that you were that you would be unable to fill if you were to waive those guys so there would be no benefit thoughts on that All right. Let's do one more then. We'll call it a night. We'll get ready for Super Bowl Sunday. Is McKinney on a no-trade contract? No, I don't believe so. I don't think that's his situation cuz they traded for him. But let's do one more. Let's find one. Good one here. And then we'll call it a night. Oh, here's a good one. Just in terms of the transactional stuff. Somebody asks me. What's my birthday? Wish if I tell you guys and won't come true. I'm going to lean on that. She can we bring Caruso back Patrick Simpson from YouTube Scandal Lakers bring back Crusoe after this season. Yes, and they can he's got a two-year deal right now. And so he was on a two-way contract prior to that now, I don't know. I have to check with Keith Smith about this in terms of creating bird rights. I don't know if the two-way contract ears count. But at worst they would have Cruise early bird rights that would give the Lakers an advantage towards keeping him around and bringing him back. So if that's the case then yeah, I took a course would be able to go over the cap to bring him back. Now. Is that something where they could start running into some issues with the hard cap? For example, Talen horton-tucker restricted free agent next offseason. They took gave Kyle kuzma New Deal. They gave K C P A New Deal LeBron James new deal. And it's Anna Davis a new deal right these add up. And so you do hit a point where you start to run out of money or your teammates to get very very expensive. When you start getting into different tiers of the luxury-tax. So could Caruso be a cap casualty will have to look at what the numbers look like as we get closer. We start to figure out what next year is going down. Like I still think he is such an integral part to the team that you don't cut costs by getting rid of him. He's extremely important to what the Lakers do. How much is he going to make after this season change? That's a question and we'll see what happens there. But there are some Protections in place the Lakers at the very at the very worst should have early bird rights on Alex Caruso, which will help them keep him around but you do want to keep an eye out on that overall salary number because the more climbs up the harder it's going to be to continue to add pieces to this Laker Squad. All right guys, so the Lakers get the win fortunately over the Detroit Pistons, but double overtime not the way we wanted to see it happen Lakers play again Monday night against Oklahoma City. Hopefully, they will have some time to rest and recover watch the Superbowl tomorrow and then hopefully they can get back fresh on Monday and take on another poor team and the Oklahoma City Thunder hopefully get out there and take care of business in that one not play down to the level of competition and get it John. Appreciate you guys joining me tonight. Enjoy the Super Bowl tomorrow. 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Lakers Dominate Rockets, Move To West Finals

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Lakers Dominate Rockets, Move To West Finals

"Bleeding purple and gold from the Heart of Los Angeles. Yes is the lakersnation.com podcast with your host Trevor Lane. Let's go. Welcome to Lakers Nation live your Los Angeles Lakers. Oh, they just blew out the Houston Rockets German sweep. Five games Lakers gave them one and then said no more Rockets. You guys are going home dominant performance from the Lakers in game five to take down the Houston Rockets wage to break it all down tonight. So if you're coming in from YouTube from Periscope from Facebook welcome and we're going to be taking your questions and comments and if you listen to the podcast version of this, please make sure you head over to Apple podcasts and r8000 view And subscribe to this show. We always appreciate it when you do that. My name is Trevor lane from lakersnation.com joining me tonight. We've got Chris the Masterpiece Masters before we dive into everything. Let's talk a little bit about our home. For tonight at that is manscaped guys be head over to manscape, You can get some amazing Men's Grooming products including the lawnmower 3.0 which is an amazing little trimmer that has LED light on it. So you don't make any mistakes in areas where you really really don't want to make mistakes and the best part is you guys can get 20% off and free shipping. All you got to do is use our promo code Nation twenty when you head over to manscape, so we would appreciate if you guys would go check them out Chris. Let's get into it. How you doing today, man? I'm amazing. I'm sure as I would guess you are and as I took his nation is all of Los Angeles is because we are back. We are going to the Western Conference Finals. We absolutely demolish the Houston Rockets, you know, the only time the Houston Rockets game on tonight and I was was Tony this but is when the Lakers took their feet off the gas pedal. I mean we dominate we doubled them up on rebound so much for small ball, you know, maybe it would be you dead. To have a guy over six foot seven out there, you know, maybe to collect some rebounds. But hey, you know, go ahead, you know, shoot your three pointers and do your, you know, your James Harden offense, but doesn't matter of life now cuz they're going home. And you know, this just feels good man. I mean what more could you ask for the Laker fan the Clippers lose yesterday the Lakers close out today. We're just sitting around waiting on I guess the Clippers. I mean, it's nice to make it out of their series with Denver. I don't know. We'll see but everything is good. Yeah, the Clippers just doesn't win one in the next two to meet the Lakers in the Western Conference Finals. I mean, the only negative is the Boston Celtics getting through their game seven. But other than that gotta be happy Lakers get the win and you're right. So the Rockets small ball this whole experiment on one hand like I gave them credit for trying something different because they looked at their situation and they went. Oh, we can't beat the Lakers. We can't beat the Clippers. We can't beat the best teams in the league if we continue playing the way we thought So let's do something different now to the Lakers credit. They adapted I wrote an article about this for lakersnation.com today. The lake. They took that that Marine ideologies of improvise adapt and overcome and the Lakers took what the Rockets were throwing at them caught them off guard and game one and then they adapted they made the necessary adjustments and then they proved it to the rockets that they can beat them at their own game. The Lakers went small and beat the Rockets with small boat like how ridiculous is that the Houston Rockets have been playing small since way back in February and the Lakers just started really, you know, they've had some little stints in games where they went small but for the most part this is a big team and they switched to small ball and then beat the rockets on their own terms. That's amazing. Yeah. Well, I mean I totally agree but I mean, the only the difference is is you know, the Lakers still have Anthony Davis, right? You know what I mean? Who is you know every bit of six foot ten? So we're six foot eleven even so I mean, Just dominant performance. I mean I the small ball thing. I hear what you're saying, but there's just so many flaws in that. You know what I mean? There's so many flaws. I mean, I understand the analytics that 3 is worth more than the issue. You take a certain amount of Threes you get to the bucket you you avoid the mid-range it's lower percentage lesser points, but I mean, there's just so many flaws in it. And you know, when you face a team like ours off again, just when you have LeBron and ad out there, you know what I mean? It doesn't matter but I will say this I feel it almost felt to me like watching this series like we lost that first game and then it almost felt to me like a video game makers. I'm unlock some cheat code like in Contra up up down down left right left right ba. It's like they found that and they hit it and then they just the rest of the way, you know what I mean there there was a couple times where I think we had some stressful moments, but man like look at where we're at tonight man. Were you stressed out at all at any given moment as I say, what did you say actually, what did you say about the Rockets before we went on home? They came out they were did you say they were looked ready to lose? Yeah, they they looked like they they looked like they were ready to to lose this game. They came out looking like hey if the Lakers they were going to try but then if the Lakers went on a big wrong were going to pack it in and you know, maybe that's part of the bubble environment or whatever. But but Chris, I love that the the Konami Code bringing that up. Yeah. It's like the Lakers found the cheat code for the rockets and just what? Okay. Well, this is how we met you and and they did that I could say the last two games the last two games. I have not been stressed the first three games of the series. It was the edge of my seat living and dining with every shot which you know, how long I've done watching the Lakers playoffs game 7 2 2010 that was probably one of the most stressful experiences in my life, but it ended up great after game three. That was it. It didn't feel I am stressed anymore this game. It felt like the Lakers were in complete control. This reminded me. It's not the exact duplicate, but it reminded me of game five against the Blazers. Well where it felt like, okay whenever the Lakers Walsh To this game's over. Yeah, and I will get into the specifics of all of it. But I mean to me what's so great about this is how good do they look and it's just the most opportune time because now we're looking at the matchup like this next matchup is basically I know it's not technically the finals but this is the matchup. And again, that's assuming Clippers make it down past the Nuggets which you know granted they probably will but hey, you know, you can always hope I guess but they're they look primed and ready man, you know, I mean the Lakers look as good as they've looked awful defensively or offensively just the Synergy of the team. It's just like this is the time and I couldn't be more static about us looking like this at this point now going into the Western Conference Finals one hundred percent. Yeah, they they are peaking at this point. And so you gotta love that. I will say this. I think this is a great indicator of how just perfect wage. Right. This was I'm getting positive comments and the chat that are popping up about Danny Green. David grade is getting low in our chat right now. And I think that is a that's a great sign what we gotta give them some I think he went to hit like for 3 tonight. He might have actually been 4444 actually. I don't know pull up the numbers but now like I was that was funny. It's one of the notes I took tonight. I was happy to see how my oh cool Danny Green's having a good night tonight. So he's not going to get butchered on Lakers nation. And I mean and like this is the thing with the angry man. Like, you know, he comes he does come through and some big moments and he came back to big time and like again, I think he was for four four, but I might be wrong maybe missed one of them from the arc. Well tell you what what Chris I am super excited for tonight. Just because of the Lakers won but also because I'm not running the back if you watch last show you knew that we gave out three Lakers license plate frames. They say Lakers nation and they say and they say Mamba Forever on them. Let me see if I still have a job. Loaded on here. Nope. I don't have the image to load it on there, but they are very awesome license plate frames and it's a we're going to do that again tonight. And so before we get into our first segment, I'm going off the first question here. All you got to do is ask a question. And if we pick your question then all you need to do is go to my Twitter handle right here. Shoot me a DM. I'm at Trevor underscore Lane. Give me your birth name. Give me your full address and everything. We will shoot you one of these if your question gets picked. All right, so let's get into the first one here before we start talking Lakers stats first question of the night. I'm sorry. That's sorry. That's me. I was just trying to put on herself gets a channel going. We're all good there. Somebody is asking well and I'm not going to use this long as the question but some people are asking where my playoff Rondo shirt is it is on the way keep playing. Well Rondo, the the arrival date says 22nd. So apparently these things have been in high demand, so I'm getting it on the 26th. It is on its way to me. All right, here we go. Chrisman ask from Facebook Chrisman. Ask. All you got to do is go over to go over to Twitter. Shoot me a DM. Give me your address and I will send you the Lakers nation license plate frame. He's asking what is the biggest challenge with the Clippers? So yes, we're looking ahead here Chris. What do you think the biggest challenge with playing? The Clippers would be well, it's the same concern that I had throughout the season it's you know, outside of the obvious stuff. You know, they've got great Wings in Kawhi Leonard and Paul George. It really just comes down to the man. They got a bunch of dogs. They got a bunch of kind of I felt like they were a tougher team throughout the season although you know, it's hard to say at this point cuz the Lakers have been looking so good lately and you know with the Clippers losing to the Nuggets it kind of you know, it might have kind of turn that turn that on its head. But yeah, I just think it was really just comes down to, Georgia. After this thing, I'm just hoping that the Lakers can match the Clippers and in that part of part of the game and if so, I don't you know, it's not like I feel like I know the Clippers are deep but I don't think they have the better Talent necessarily. So so that's why I'm saying toughness might be a thing going into that series as far as you know, we know Patrick Beverley is going to be out there. He's going to be boisterous crowd and like they got the mentality of that team and you know that with the Clippers the tough part is as you know, the Clippers like, you know, they might have lost the nuggets in that last match up but the club get up for the Lakers and they are like, I feel like they're going to mentally prepare themselves. They're going to come into these games with the Lakers, you know with Next Level intensity Next Level Focus. Like I did throughout the whole regular season. I mean, you know, they've other people have talked about this any time the Clippers really got up it was when they played the Lakers and I don't expect this postseason match up to be any different if anything the dog I was going to be turned up. It's going to be a chippy match up. I mean, I'd like to hear what the over-under is going to be on there being a fight of some kind or directions right there. Cuz there's a lot of Pride here, you know being in its cage match up and you know, you got basically the two best players in the game scoring up and Kauai and LeBron James and I say that cuz Kevin Durant's hurt obviously, so there's just so many interesting things about this and then even when you look at Paul George and AD like these are two guys have been so criticized for kind of their postseason performance and you know, can they step up in the big moments? So, you know, there's just a lot of that's going to be going on in this series, but you know again, I just I like the way we're looking right now. It's giving me a lot of confidence that you know, no matter how the Clippers broke or how up, they are for the matchup that we can offer them. Yeah. I think that's that's a good call going with toughness. I I do have confidence in the way. The Lakers are playing right now. I think for me it's the other guys on the Clippers. That's that's my biggest challenge. It's I know kawaii's yep. Is points and by the way guys if you haven't watched the Clippers lately watch How often Kauai is flopping if you guys thought you were frustrated with James Harden wait until you start dealing with Kawhi Leonard. These guys were doing the head flavor. It's like to rid of James Harden in a row, right? It's the same sort of style. Paul. George is doing the same thing. But anyway, it's it's the other guys though. It's can you stop Lou Williams from having a game where he goes from 4:20 or keep Montrezl Harrell off the offensive glass visas Jubitz has been playing very very well. Which hurts right here. It's those other guys keeping them from getting going. I think that's going to be part of the challenge. All right, let's get into Lakers stats and first segment of the night. Here we go, and we do still have more license plate frames to give out. So stick with us. bath Lakers stats Okay digging into the stats for your Los Angeles Lakers and oh boy. This is looking pretty the Lakers every starter is a positive plus minus and Thursday Lord. Danny Green is a plus 35 on the night how ridiculous is that plus 35 and it's Danny Green. Everyone's favorite 29 Points for LeBron James along board 7 assists two steals one block on nine of 18 shooting Danny Green 14 points 446 from Deep. We knew he had it in him. In fact every shot. He took was a 3-pointer Ford birds that we had Anthony Davis came in with just 13 points didn't have to do as much tonight 11:00 boards for assist for of nine shooting Markieff Morris boy. What a stand out tonight 16 points three boards name is Chris you talked about toughness. I think Markieff Morris gives you some of that six or seven shooting forward for from deep and then the boy who lived Kyle kuzma the sole survivor 549 Shooting three of six from Deep for boards one block 17 points and let's not forget playoff Rondo had a bit more of a quiet night three points five boards five assists looking over in Rocketts. Oh, wow. That's all kinds of ugly. Their PJ Tucker was a -38 - 38 LG Tucker hurting James Harden did go for thirty six thousand five. The only other rocket starter in double-figures was Russell Westbrook and he did it just barely with ten points. Every other rocket starter was in single digits while as well. Every Lakers star year was in double figures plus the Lakers six man with the most minutes on the night Kyle kuzma also in double figures that is balanced balanced scoring Chris anything jump out to you from those stats. I just said you with world. Just what you just mentioned. Cuz when I'm looking at all these numbers what stands out to me and even from watching the game is that the the the cool thing about tonight is wage. One particular guy stood out like everybody contributed to everybody like you can't I don't think there's anybody on the team that you could really dog tonight, you know ku's came through green came through Thursday, they all came through and and some fashion and you know, the scoring reflects that but like, you know, even Rondo. Yeah, he had a more quiet night, but he was he contributed, you know, I don't know what his plus-minus is. I didn't have that. In fact, you know it just everybody kind of did their thing tonight. Nobody really stood out besides, you know, of course LeBron and AD always stand out and and they be of course was gobbling up rebounds. But you know, it was just like everybody did the thing and it was awesome tonight, you know, we didn't even need a third man. Everybody was third man the Chris, you know, you were with this on the on the last show. This is a very similar feel in terms of the the scoring balance to last game where the Lakers they didn't have and it wasn't like hey LeBron went there for 35 Anthony Davis went for $33. And then the next best was, you know, kcpt put-up job. Or something like that. This was a very very balanced night. And that's what they've got. No two games in a row against the Rockets. I'm not saying they're going to do that against the Clippers or nuggets whoever they see next round, but it's a sign of just how much they were dominating the rockets that the ball got to go wherever the Lakers wanted to like. Hey, let's get Crews metal bucket. All right, here you go. Oh, let's get one for Alex Caruso. Oh, by the way, let's talk about our our guy Alex. Karev the chase down block. How about my God? If you did you hear the audio clip of the Houston podcasters who were going berserk like losing their minds because Alex Caruso had 16 points last game. I was making the rounds online. I don't know if you have it or not. It was not to work for that. It's pure comedy and I can only imagine what they were doing tonight because Alex Caruso again another great performance. I should I just got a message about our sister site dodger blue by the way guys, if you're a Dodgers fan, you have to make sure you check out dodger blue, They do an incredible job over there Daniel Stark and Matthew Morgan. No a number of our friends from Lakers Nation also help out with with dodger blue. And right now the Dodgers are perhaps going to beat the Houston Astros that looks like it's a really really close one top of the page right now and the Astros. Do you have a runner in scoring position? But the Dodgers are up 5 to 4. So we'll see if the Dodgers can hang in there but it would be great to see two wins over Houston on the same night by to La team. So let's go home. How about that? Let's get this thing done, especially after you know, the Astros and the cheating scandal and all that. Let's get the Lakers did have twenty turnovers on the night. Can you so the Rockets only had 12 turnovers wage. That was the worst part of the Lakers night was the turnovers. They give up 16 points off 20 turnovers. Can you imagine what this game would have been like if the Lakers had given up on more normal number of turnovers this this game would have been over even like they would have probably won by forty. I mean, we're up pretty much by Thirty and when you factor in the terminals you're talking about. Yeah like that. It's almost shocking because if you have they took care of them. A little more. I mean it could have been a 40-point lead that just goes to show you how in control we were of this game really, you know what I mean? Like it just it was a stress-free night for us all around it, you know just walk more thing on that on that balanced approach we had tonight. I love you. In fact that everybody got involved because that's much more heart. You know what I mean? Like it's easy to focus in easier to focus in when you're just focusing on cruise or somebody else. That's hot but man when everybody's doing their thing goodness gracious. Yeah. It's definitely a lot more difficult to defend on the night the Lakers shoot 53% from the field The Rock to 37% the Lakers shoot 51% from Deep the rocket shoot 27% How about that about that? I was yeah, like we beat them at their own game, you know, and the Houston got more points at the at the rim side. They got to the basket much more but you know, a lot of that actually might have been transitioned now that you mention it from those turnovers to take a job. Yeah, if you're looking at this the fast break points Houston had 36 the Lakers at thirty-four. So Houston was getting some buckets in transition in the paint there. And so that adds up pretty quick. But yeah, I mean to shoot that way against jackets team, I think was pretty clear the Rockets were ready to go home the rebounding battle 5231 in favor of the Lakers. Let's go. All right. Pop out that small. How about that small militia were able to dominate Tucker at the center position happens. Oh, well, that's what happens. We you know, they doubled him up on rebounds most of the game. Like that's actually a little closer than it actually was so but yeah, you know, I just you could call this experiment a failure and kudos to them for trying it was a you know, it's a nice experiment but you know, but it is too many flaws and you did mention Lakers lead the Lakers biggest lie to the night was Thirty the Rockets biggest lead in the night zero they never in this game. All right, let's get into the Lakers Nation fan Zone where we're going to be taking all of your choice. Since your comments and the first one we take is going to win a Lakers Nation Mamba forever license plate frame. So here we go. We are entering the Phantom. home and Lakers nation and Zone All right. I've got the questions pouring in and I saw one that I liked they're going by fast. So I'm going to do my best to try and keep up with them. Here it is. Here. It is. Come on stick with me. They're going by so fast. I can be a good one. Oh, you've got a great. Well, it was from earlier. So I don't know. I can't give a dog. We need to be able to do a shout-out so we can give somebody the the license plate frame. So let me do this one and then and then we're going to do yours. Okay. I've got Ricky Logan from Periscope. So Ricky Logan right here. There's my Twitter handle. All you got to do is go there. Shoot me a DM, you're the winner of this license plate frame. I have one more that I'm giving away. All you got to do is shoot me your info. Give me your address and I will send you a thousand acres nation license plate frame says Mamba Forever on it as well. He asked the question do the Lakers keep Markieff Morris in the starting lineup Rams exact one was that age. It's a great question. It's a great question. So so what do they do? What do they do? I mean, okay. So let's say regardless, I don't care if it's the Clippers or the Nuggets. I don't think it matters. Do you continue age? Starting Markieff Morris based on the way. The Lakers are played this series. Well, I think that again it's going to be situational but I I feel like Vogel is going to go back to the original starting lineup for this next match up. But I do think that you know, it's going to be a thing throughout the game where you might decide to take JaVale out relatively quick and then they might go to the kind of that lineup where they've got a job Morris and a d and you know, the smaller version. I just I'm trying to think on matchup wise with the Clippers. I know you got zubac and you got mantras so it just kind of comes down to maybe matching up with them. Like I'm not sure but I'm anxious to hear your opinion on this and see what you think. Yeah. I definitely will so I've got a comment coming in here. I guess I'll go to pair them up since you hate Facebook the first license plate frame went to somebody from Facebook. I went to somebody from Periscope for this one settled out there. But yes, I I definitely I definitely think they will go Back to running the big I think they'll go back to it. I don't know if it's going to be treveiler Dwight cuz now that you've changed it now that you've opened Pandora's Box do you go Gmail do you go Dwight Howard? I think you can argue either way. I would imagine they probably go to bail just because of familiarity, but I think they go back to a big because now instead of dealing with Robert Covington as your Center at six seven weather bug guts or the Clippers, you're either dealing with if it's as robots. He was a seven footer or you're dealing with Jusuf nurkic who's also a 7-footer and so you I think you need the size. I think it gets either one of those gems you need the size. I will say though that I wouldn't be surprised like you mentioned Chris to see this smaller lineup a little bit more often. So as soon as say, oh I said nourish I met Nikola jokic I mixed up nursing huge. But yeah, you know, you're well, whatever anyway, so I I could see them going small whenever those bags are off the floor. I could see the Lakers going to this page. Now especially with a d at the five and you've got Markieff Morris out there to give you that floors facing the way he shooting the ball. So I don't think you take what happened in this series and just throw it away and say Hey, you know it was because it was against the Rockets. It's not going to work against any other team we're never doing this again. I don't think that's the case. I think you take the success that they've had using this lineup and you at least consider it. I think it needs it needs a look and if it works, if it doesn't then you adjust and credit to Frank Vogel credits at the Lakers coaching staff credit to the players. They've done a very good job of adjusting in these playoffs. Yeah. I I figure out what I think happened kind of in this Houston series, it worked out beautiful for us and the commentators were pointing this out, but we kind of figured out a whole new look for our team and something that we can use going forward. So if anything I feel like Vogel discovered a different kind of line up he can use that works together in this series that might be a beneficial going forward, you know home In a different look from our regular, you know having a d out there in Javale McGee and maybe kind of a more versatile line up a little more. You know what I mean little more scoring punch, you know, not necessarily better interior defense, but you know everywhere else type of thing. So yeah, I think I think we discovered something if nothing else. I like the flexibility that the Lakers have. I think it's so it's so cool to see you know, so the Houston Rockets they went all in on small ball and if it wasn't working that's it. They they have no other options the Lakers can play so many different styles wage. And that's amazing. There's so many different ways. The Lakers can beat you and I instantly I think of like MMA fighters. I think, you know like John Jones or Anderson Silva who you know, they can beat you in the standing game. They can beat you striking can beat you as like they can kind of pick and choose exactly what style they want to play like the Lakers can do that. Same thing. The Lakers have the ability to play all these different styles. So whatever you were going to throw them they've got wage. Counter for it and I love that about this team good question coming in here from sea fish one from YouTube said we'll tht Talen Horton Tucker be a regular in the rotation now, so that was a stat line that I did not mention to this one. He did get minutes again tonight got minutes last game tonight ten minutes 447 shooting three boards nine points 9 points and ten minutes. What do you think Chris does tht stick in this Lakers rotation? Well, I mean, I wouldn't be afraid to like if it comes down to if you're telling me I have to decide between JR Smith or Dion Waiters and tht you know, what that's actually a tougher question that I thought because JR Smith hasn't looked good. But he does have that experience and kind of you know, now we're going to the Western Conference Finals. So you kind of favors guys who have been in these bigger games situations, but it it's tough because Jo Smith has not log. Good obviously, and I know I would probably be more quick to you know, go to Dion Waiters if he's healthy just because I have a little more confidence in him, but that's a tough question man, like he did well and he did well in this series but it makes me a little nervous putting him into the Clippers matchup for whatever reason just because the states are now even higher, you know, he did do well. What do you think? You know what so there's a common here from David Johnson from Facebook says tht should have been in the rotation from the get-go know. So here's the thing is my my thought on t h e we've been saying it all year. He hasn't been ready most of the year when ninety percent of the year. He has not been ready. You look at the difference and I did a video on this yesterday. It's on YouTube. You can find it you look at the difference between THC right now and back then just a few months ago. He looks like a different person. I mean just physically he has gotten himself in much much better shape lost a lot of weight gain. Skill set is still there, but take all of it away and you still have to remember. He's nineteen years old nineteen years old and we're talking about putting him into the Western Conference Finals. Like you should be a little bit concerned about that Frank Vogel had a quote the other day though, and he was talking about t h d in the way, he had played and I'm paraphrasing but Vogel said I have confidence in JR Smith, but like pretty much nearly like Jerry Smith has been playing. Well, he he said it was going to be Dion Waiters but waiters are still hurt and so he went to h e so what happened was Jerry Smith was playing poorly Vogel knew he needed needed to go somewhere else. Dion Waiters wasn't ready to go. Otherwise that would have been the pick instead. He went to tht. Now. The question is does THD even give up this role now that he's had the opportunity and I can say this I will understand if if waiters is 100% in vocal decides to go with him because of the experience Factor because of the scoring, but Horton Tucker has done nothing wrong. Take away this opportunity, right? He hasn't done anything out on the floor that has made you say. Oh see they need Dion Waiters in there and not him. And and I've Loved what Dion Waiters has provided Jordan Talen Horton Tucker has only made this decision more difficult for Frank Vogel. And that is a amazing and wonderful thing to see from a guy who is nineteen years old. He still has two more months of break nineteen that that is absolutely incredible that he is producing in the playoffs right now, you know, I started in WWE right around I got signed at 18,000 much started at nineteen but like for me, even when I watched this kid out here on this, you know in this arena in the playoffs and performed the way is it's just it's unbelievable man like to be nineteen years old and be in games of this relevance, right and to do a great job like he has been and I just I I think you covered this which I thought was quite odd. The way the team is kind of, you know, got his back and told him bed cover up for him if he makes any mistakes and you know, just cuz it's a lot of pressure on a kid that age and you know, like it's going to be helpful for for him to hear those type of things. It's going to help his performance and help them realize that like, yeah, he you know, you might make make mistakes but it's okay. We got your back type of thing now again, I just I don't think it makes me a little nervous with the Clippers. It's a lot of responsibility as for 19 year old but like it's like you said he hasn't been anything to unlearn these minutes and I thought you were asking me between JR Smith and tht I'm going to say tht I think yeah. No, I agree. I would go tht over JR Smith. I don't know that I would go tht over over a healthy. Dion wage know is Dion Waiters healthy that's going to be a big big factor in this for the Lakers see Del from YouTube to Trevor. Do you think we should use tht more for defensive purposes. Cuz I think you would not be pushed back more complain compared to like a c p or D on again. I go back to him being nineteen. I don't know that I like you're not putting Talen Horton Tucker on say Paul George and say here go shut him down. Like that's that's not that's not what you want to do to a kid that's going to destroy his confidence. I mean we go back to like like Kwame Brown and what happened his first year with Michael Jordan the Washington Wizards and how that that changed him forever as a basketball player. Right? Like that's not what you want to do Frank vogel's so far has handled horton-tucker very very well in terms of getting them in getting a small burst bought them in very low risk situations, even though it's a playoff game putting them in where even if he makes a few mistakes, it's not going to hurt the team too bad and then I loved the conversation that Danny Green shared. He he reads need that before going in Lebron went over to tht and told him don't worry about anything Chris you referenced. This said said if you make a mistake, we've got your back. We've got you covered just go home. Do your thing, right? That's got to be a relief and I mean that's like like you that's exactly what you want in a teammate right to know that this kid is coming in and he's going to be nervous and not putting him at ease and say and one of the greatest players ever is telling him. I've got you don't worry. That's great and that age. I mean that's you know, I think that's super important for somebody like that going in cuz you know in his head he doesn't he doesn't want to mess up. He doesn't want to make mistakes and you know, you'll go into a game probably like this kind of nervous about that. So I think perhaps out a lot. Okay kind of random comment coming in here from Tyler from YouTube. And by the way guys, we do still have another another license plate frame that we're going to give away right after the Master Lock of the night, but Tyler says, isn't it crazy? The Lakers might be going up against all red color teams. I did I had thought of that that you could you could see the Lakers go through the playoffs going really Blazers Rockets Clippers and heat off driving. The Clippers are partially red. Not bright. They read based well-bred of red blue and white. Yeah, but they all have read. I mean just it's not it doesn't mean anything. It's just kind of one of those weird quirks that that could happen. They're better than Celtic green, I guess. Yeah. Absolutely. Absolutely. If people are saying Denver isn't out. I know hey look that's the other thing we should mention. So right now what should Lakers fans be rooting for so game six, you are one hundred percent rooting for the Denver Nuggets. Absolutely. We want a long series you want seven games. I want to see this Series game next two games. You want quadruple overtime and you want to know ideally the Nuggets need to win game six, and I'd like to see I wouldn't mind seeing that I can't win game seven even but off. A lot of people are clamoring for the Lakers Clippers matchup and it would feel pretty good to beat the Clippers. There's no question there. So but the thing that the the flip side the glass is half empty part that worries me. I don't want any chance of a Clipper Celtics finals. But that's that is that is not sick. That's the most once you 20 NBA Finals ever. And so I I don't want that possibility. So that's kind of in the back of my mind, but I would say that I know I know I shouldn't even put that evil out in the world. So the there's a there's a game 6 coming up quadruple overtime would be ideal Nuggets win back to game seven again. I want to see quadruple overtime. So by the time whichever team gets through is playing the Lakers two days later after game seven. I want them to be beaten bloodied and exhausted. I want that to be the scenario. So that's that's what I'm looking for in these next two games between the demo. It's not since you Trevor. I've been thinking that the whole time I've been telling anybody who listened like I want that series to go seven games game seven people overtime Thriller, whereas, you know, just I want the Clippers to have to work as hard as possible before going into this match up against us, which makes this Victory even sweeter wage. Because now the Lakers get to just pick up their feet relax and you know, hopefully the Clippers lose tomorrow. Yeah. Absolutely. I mean and you know what that's like we could say that any day but like we're really hoping they would lose tomorrow. I think collectively myself you everybody here off Lakers nation in the chat everything. I think it's a Clippers did face the Celtics in the finals that we might have to just boycott the NBA Finals. Unfortunately, we might the basketball season would be over for us. I think we should all we should all just not watch the finals. I think in fact happy, it would be the least watched NBA finals in quite a while. I would be fairly confident in that if it was Clippers Celtics found it would really make 20 20 20 20 is already been pretty rough. Yeah. Could you imagine if we had to face that finals like it would that would really just be the exclamation point on twenty-twenty at least for us all off. You know die-hard purple and gold fans. It's so gross think about that. All right here let's let's let's spin around. Let's go positive here. Robert Gonzales says, hey Trevor, do you watch to see the Lakers beat the Clippers and then the Celtics if it happens, of course, yes like that that that's the flip side to this. Imagine if the Lakers beat the Clippers and then claim Championship number 17 by beating the Celtics. Well, that's why I'm sharing for the salt extra. That's the only reason why I know you've been giving cheering for this you don't cheer for that Celtics go. Well not sure about touring but when I see them Advanced it gives me the hopes and dreams of a Lakers Celtics just for the match up, you know, just for the matchup itself not because I want the Celtics to be successful or anything right one-hundred-per-cent John side from YouTube said put Trev in the master lock for mentioning the Clippers Celtics finals. That's that's fair. That's fair wage. That is fair. Okay, let's get into a few more of these and then we're going to and then we're going to move on to the Master Lock of the night package says Miami is going to beat Boston. I like that. I like that. I mean I'll be pulling for the heat cuz I can't watch a game and say like I hope the Celtics win or anything like that. Can we catch up? You know a good match up though that Miami Celtics like I'm going to be watching that and I think it's going to be something real and from YouTube says can we call Alex Russo and Elite Defender already this season he has been the problem is we haven't seen him do it consistently. It's not like we've seen him do it for five years, right? This is Alex Cruz has been mostly in the G league for the last couple of Seasons home. But this season he has been the advanced dance. I'll show it you watch the games you see it. He's good. You gotta love a man. I just I love there was one point tonight where Alex Caruso was bringing the ball up and I just looked at all the whole lineup that he was with he had LeBron out there in age and it's just the visual of that man. It's just so funny to see this guy because not really, you know look like what you would typically see out of a basketball player and he's got some of the best players on the world like looking at, you know, waiting on his move. It's just a remarkable thing, you know to go from the the G league and then to be in this situation man and like what how awesome is Caruso man a lot of Caruso's. He's just an awesome a hundred percent. I mean look Caruso was I mean undrafted spends a year three in the last name? Oh, I wasn't even here for the question about timely three years off like big time. Let's let's wrap up Crusoe discussion with this. What is the best Alex Caruso nickname because there's so many that are out there. Like what? What's your default? What do you go to? Oh shoot. It used to be the bald Bamba. Right but I think I don't I don't know if there's one that cuz I think he's just a man of many names cuz I hear a lot of people say Cruise show and I think that one has been good at it has been the bald Mamba there's been what was the other one? We we we called Captain America for a little bit when he when they're home is based on how to handle Captain America. We call the the bald eagle the bald Mamba big boulder brand all those things. A lot of people here are saying Caruso. I'm seeing a lot of that. That one seems to be kind of the like the one they've been using on television the most I think the cruise show, but you know, it's us I think he's all of those, you know what I mean like wage, you know Crews always every where wasn't you. Yeah, he's everything and he's the go he's also the goat I'm saying that's what I'm getting. I'm get a lot of comments saying the goat. Like I think go is kind of taught on within the team and therefore so might go might be the funniest one just cuz you know, it's just there's something funny about calling Caruso to go home. Although he is an awesome player and he's just he really brings the hustle man every night. He does he does and he's making big plays out there for the Los Angeles Lakers. All right, Chris. Are you ready for it took a lot of the night. Get it, right. Let's go some going to do the Master Lock of the night. Then we will finish things off giving off our final license plate frame Lakers Nation. Mom before every license plate frame. So send in your questions. Whichever one we pick palm will get one but let's get in to the Master Lock of the night. No choice. All right, Christopher piece Masters who is getting Master locked to night. Well Trevor after careful consideration and after watching the events of these past five games and what we like to call in gentleman sweep. Once again for the Los Angeles Lakers, I think you know, there's a lot of people that could have been I know a lot of people are saying Russell Westbrook, although Russell really just wasn't much of a factor for us, and I'm not that bad at him to want to Massillon him. But what I will say after watching the events of tonight, I would say that it was George. Just one person. I got master lock. It wasn't just it wasn't a team that got Master Lock It was the whole team of the Houston Rockets the whole idea of a small ball their whole philosophy. There are other analytics the Mike D'Antoni James Harden the you know, all of that wage. I think we just Master locked at whole a whole ideology tonight. And I don't think I think this is it and I was telling you this this is it for this incarnation of the Houston Rockets. D'antoni's probably going to get fired. Who knows what's going to happen with the roster again. It's just not the smartest thing in the world to put a guy who's six foot seven off center position, especially when he's got to go up against Anthony Davis. So Daryl Morey Mike D'Antoni small-ball Houston Rockets James Harden, you have all been dead. This is this is the biggest Master Lock ever. So not it's not even just a player. It's the entire team. It's the coaching staff. It's the organization and it's their big. Lots of them basketball philosophy has been Master locked. I love it the biggest Master Lock ever so far the entire Rockets organization all the way down to the core of their very being home has been Master locked. I love it. Out like a light and and and the proof will be when when you see what happens over the summer and how different the Houston Rockets will probably look next year because you want to keep putting out there. I mean there might count for some winds in the regular season, but it's been shown time and time again that it doesn't work. You can't just rely on what you're going to do from the three-point Arc across that's not always going to work somebody saying the Earth just shook on that Master Lock that was a massive Master like but I I mean I look up with this situation where you said they gave up a ton of pics to swap out Chris Paul for Westbrook. They probably would have been better off in this series with Chris Paul. And now what do they do? You've got Westbrook on this giant contract who can't shoot any more money. Like, how are you going to add pieces around this? I don't know where Houston goes from here. I don't know either and you know, they're lucky they even made it through the last series and they almost got beat by the player that they gave away and to a team that wasn't even supposed to contend wage was supposed to contend and OKC pushed in the seven and almost beat them. So, I mean, it's just, you know, it's over for them. You know, like I don't know and I you know that this team has been weird and like to use the rockets for a long time. I still remember all the way back to that match up with Lonzo Ball, but he got her. Oh, yes. I'm look good. So to me, I love the No Mercy thing with them. You know what? We hate the way you play basketball. We hate the way you try to draw fouls. We just hate watching you in general. So I'm happy that we just destroy them no mercy, let's just move on. All right. Yep. They are going home. The Lakers are continuing on. All right, let's give out one final license plate frame of the night again. If you get picked here, all you got to do wage. Go to my Twitter handle right here. Send me a DM. Give me your name. Give me your address all of that and we will send you one says Lakers Nation. It says mom before ever. Let's find a good question in Christian looking to. So let's oh, yeah. I'm trying to catch up man. They just come through so quickly they do that's that's why I need your help help here. Cuz there's so many there's so many years and a good one for us to finish on here. Questions. All right. I've got one do you what is it? Okay, sir. I just lost it it flew past. Oh, no, that's okay. Let's let's go with with this one. Let's go with this was this was a talking point on the broadcast a cash from YouTube says is coach Vogel shoving his worth. Okay a cash from YouTube you get the last license plate frame of the night again, shoot me a DM to my Twitter handle and give me your address and I will make sure we took one out to you so is coach Vogel proving his worth and Jeff Van Gundy on the broadcast tonight mentioned that one of the challenges of being the coach of LeBron James is that just like being a teammate for LeBron James. There's a decent chance that you're not going to get any credit. And if you lose you're going to take the blame and that's that could be difficult for a coach for other players to deal with birth. Are we at a point now? Here? We are. It's September amazingly. We're still playing really basketball in September. Are we to point now where we should be looking at coach Vogel a little bit differently than we were say six seven months ago when the season was was really kind of still just getting going. What would you look at what we did defensively to the Houston Rockets and how well it worked how well it worked trapping art and how well it were trapping Gordon. I would say yes, and I'd like to Vogel all year really. So I mean my my opinion really hasn't changed on him. I just find it remarkable that he was are I think are maybe a second or a third choice and it's just took so well and the team is really responded to my feel like they've bought into him and like there hasn't been I think it was maybe they're maybe be one or two games this whole season where we were kind of frustrated with Volvo. I think Vogel got a Master Lock actually of the night this series but I mean he bounced back strong. It's like maybe he was watching the show and you know, he didn't want to get master lunch or something because I you know, he's just unlike D'antoni, you know what I mean? He he adjusts, you know, he makes adjustments. He you know, and he just really I think he's done a great job. I mean D'antoni didn't even have the option to add. What was he going to do a play place and Chandler. He doesn't have the Personnel to make any adjustments. I do think that Frank Vogel we should start talking about him a little bit differently and it's not like he's had multiple great successful seasons in Los Angeles or anything. He was good with the Pacers back to the day right in the and then he went back to Orlando and things didn't work there. Then he's out of the league and the next thing you know, he's the head coach for the Lakers where they didn't get Ty Lue they didn't get money Williams and so they wind up getting Frank Vogel and everybody was wrong. How many months before Jason Kidd takes over. How long is it going to be before Jason Kidd takes that that spot people were saying by December Vogel was going to be gone. And Jason Kidd was going to be the Lakers head coach. What's happening right now Jason Kidd is looking for head coaching jobs elsewhere because he's not getting this one because Frank Vogel has been good. Yes, he's made some mistakes. I thought playing Rondo 25 minutes in his first game. Was was that was a bunch and that's what got him Master locked. But other than that, I mean look, you can't you can't be too upset giving what the Lakers have done and said, he's a defense-first coach. And so sometimes the offense looks a little bit muddied, but when you've got LeBron James that that erases a lot of those issues, so overall I think Vogel has done a good job in terms of the play on the edge, especially on the defensive end and he's also done a good job in terms of managing the personalities and making sure that LeBron and Anthony Davis feel empowered as super stars while still retaining Authority, which is very very easy to do. Yep, definitely agree. Frank vogel's worked out beautifully for us. I think here's a good point. Good point Jason Andrews from Facebook says vocal coach George four years. Yeah. So I'm wondering like the spring Fogle have the inside track as far as how do you stop Paul George for this next playoff series. I bet he's got something he's got some kind of insight you coach him for that long. So that'll be helpful. It'd be even better if you had some insight on Kauai but you know, Paul George comes to play you just you kind of don't know where you're going to get from Paul George anyway on certain nights you can it doesn't show up. So hopefully he doesn't show up for most of the games against us. Yes. Yeah that that would be nice. If anything just to just to give us a little bit of something after Paul George opted to stay with OKC and spurned the Lakers when he combined with with LeBron James and then a year later forced his way out of OKC to go to La and join the Clippers like like Paul George has taken some he was dead to me. He was dead to me after that. Yeah, exactly. Yep. Taking shots. The only thing you know what I remember about that Trevor. I remember how devastating it was to hear that and then I remember the next day we signed LeBron right and forgetting about that really quick. Yep agree. I I thought I thought LeBron wasn't coming once Paul. George said no because when they had to come as a parent so so with that being the case, I would like to see a lot of three for 15 shooting Nights from Paul George in this next series, but again that hopefully Vogel we'll figure out some things to do they can they can help slow him down. All right, Chris. Well, I think we've covered a lot here tonight. Obviously a great night off is fun when we can come here and join everybody from Facebook from YouTube from Periscope and we can celebrate a Lakers win, especially finishing off the Western Conference semifinals on to the Western Conference Finals Chris right now. We're a twins away from number 17808 wins away that close, you know, it's it's unbelievable to me Trevor khong We've waited when you think about it. This is like a decade in the making we've waited ten years to even just get to this moment. You know, I know we're not at the finals yet. But to get even to the Western Conference Bridge like we need to all stop and appreciate it. Like the last time we were even in the playoffs was what 2011, you know, and even 2010 to we had the finals. So this is a special paint for us and I just think it's awesome. You know, like we need to really it's going to be an exciting next few weeks ago hundred percent. Yeah. It's definitely going to be exciting. It's seen the Lakers in the Western Conference Finals whether it is the Denver Nuggets or the Clippers and hopefully that's going to be that's going to be a lot of fun and the Lakers will walk out there before before we wrap up. I was going to bring up a couple other kind of notable things from just real quick, you know, just in short form here, you know, the little shouting match between Westbrook brother that was pretty fun of everybody else. That's a lot of people were calling for West Palm. Actually get the master Wok of the night but I didn't think that that shouting match was enough to kind of you know, what more do we need to do to Westbrook? He's he's already we've destroyed the only need to master volume on top of that don't need that what you think of that Westbrook's Jumper Master Lock them. And that was and that was it. You know what I thought that was interesting. I thought I don't think I think in some ways the NBA kind of anticipating had specific rules for the fans that maybe there'd be some drawing because like not only can the fans here more of what the players are seeing are saying on the floor, but the players can hear more of what they fans are saying when there's that few of people in the building and so I wondered yeah, you got kicked out of the I was funny there were saying, oh, sorry, he made history first come first serve first fan in the bubble to get kicked out of a game. So I just I thought that was notable one other funny moment from tonight. I think a lot of people caught this we didn't bring this up yet, but I was pretty funny when LeBron James Was I mean us the rivers was just getting bullied tonight, but I think you saw that one spot where LeBron drew the foul on us and rivers and then the ball had hit LeBron in the head and then the brake and turn around and rivers was like whoa. Whoa. Whoa, it's just a funny moment. I figured if it was worth the Congress River saw his life flash before his eyes there in that in that moment offing. Yeah. That was that was another great great moment from this game or how about at the very end the Lakers playing the Twin Towers rolling out Dwight Howard in Javale McGee in garbage time was that was a laptop. That was something that was happened that happened. That's how much the Lakers were beating the Rockets but they brain to centers out there just to let them run a little bit on the floor. We we've never seen Dwight makoff out there at the same time. This was a whole new thing for us tonight. Like usually we're breaking them up and kind of putting them together by their stats as you know, you know with Dwight coming off the bench but yet tonight we got birth. The Twin Towers out there for a few minutes. So yeah, you got Jared Dudley out there. I mean, yeah that just shows you how great of a night this thing. It really was. It really was. All right guys. Thank you everybody for joining us tonight. Forget follow Lakers Nation across social media Lakers Nation on Twitter and Facebook at Lakers Nation official on Instagram. Follow Chris at Chris Masters 310 on Instagram at Chris Adonis on Twitter. You can find me at River underscore Lane on Twitter at Trevor Lane NBA on Instagram guys. All we're going to do now is keep an eye on that on that Denver Nuggets and Clippers series way to find out who is going to be meeting the Lakers in the Western Conference finals and then we will do another live show for game one of the Western Conference Finals. Let's go Lakers gotta love it eight more wins. Let's get this thing. Have a great night. Everybody stays safe and see him.

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Lakers Detonate Rockets To Even Series

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Lakers Detonate Rockets To Even Series

"Bleeding purple and gold from the Heart of Los Angeles is the lakersnation.com podcast with your own Trevor Lane. That's right. We're in the Black Mamba jerseys and the Lakers get the big win that they needed in game. Two against the Houston Rockets. The season series is even I can't even talk. I'm so excited guys. This was one of those games where I was on the edge of my seat the entire time. It's been a while since I've felt like this during a Lakers basketball game probably cuz it's been a while since the Lakers have been in the playoffs man. That was agonizing but such a relief when they were able to pull off the win. We're going to break it all down with here with you guys tonight. So if you're coming in from YouTube you coming in from scope you're coming in from Facebook welcome and we're going to be taking all of your questions and comments before we dive into everything quick reminder. We always appreciate it when you help support the companies that support us and tonight. 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I forgot how stressful it is, especially when you start getting deeper into the rounds. Like I'm sure a lot of people can kind of relate to this. It's pretty stressful and it's it's just been a while but it's exciting and thank goodness. We were able to pull out that W tonight cuz I was on the edge of my seat just like you I just thought you know, I couldn't imagine I was going down to zero to them. You know what I mean? Like that is too stressful of an existence for me. So I feel much better tonight. I feel great, you know Clippers Los. Yes, boss. So everything is A-Okay electrolyte. That's right a the Celtics lost history the Clippers lost yesterday the Lakers one today that that's a good three-game stretch, right? They're still certainly take that but but yeah this this was one of those games where every shot that was being taken all the threes by the Rockets. I'm like, I'm just dying on each each and everyone praying that it's going to bounce out because they're so good at hitting those three zero saw that that sixteen point lead the lake which side of the third erase next thing, you know, they're going into the fourth down to an 18-point swing and 1/4 that was unbelievable and we'll talk all about that. We're going to break down off chance that everything but as you mentioned, they couldn't go down O2 and as much as we're going to complain about some things and praise other things the bottom line is at the end of the day. They got the job done. They got the wind that they needed and now from here it's on and hopefully this Lakers team figured out some things against the Rockets because this series is obviously far from over and I hope that the Lakers can take off. Things they learned in this game and then use the next time but there's still a lot to work on I think. Yeah, we but we had really good contributions tonight from various people. Like I loved what he did tonight man. Like he was playing Big Boy basketball getting to the paint making Cuts posting and then, you know, we already talked about Maurice a lot of people or not Morris maronda, but a bunch of people are mentioning Markieff Morris. You did a great job tonight. I mean, he was hitting threes from you know, just from different spots floor and wow. I don't know. I just, you know, I'm just so happy that we're going into the show tonight with a win because if we didn't I can imagine the sky would be followed absolute all be so stressed out right now, but but things that would be good. I do get some stuff out and I you know, hopefully JaVale McGee's. All right boys did play some good minutes for us tonight and like, you know look like when the Lakers, you know by the end of that game it just felt to me like you know, what? The Rockets are going to want some huge runs like this and they're going to you know, get the lead and everything, but when it comes down to like, you know, the the nitty-gritty, you know, like eighty and LeBron James going to do to ensure the win and that's I feel like that's what they did tonight. You know, I I even like LeBron searching out that Russell Westbrook match up in the end, you know, like it seems like there's a lot of success when LeBron's birthday for matchups out there so know a lot of good stuff to talk about. Yeah and LeBron is pretty good at that. He's good at finding the right ways in order to get the win the right matchups for himself for teammates and off of that, I guess before we dive into the stats real quick, we gotta you know tip our metaphorical cap here playoff Rondo, you know last game we were all not pleased with playoff with Rhonda was just regular the last game. We were not happy with Frank Vogel for playing had that many minutes and I would have hoped that vocals plan was to pull Rondo if he wasn't if you didn't have it going instead tonight Rondo had it going He made a difference all the credit in the world to him. I know a lot of people know me for not liking Rondo all that much. It's not that I dislike Rondo the person I want him to be successful for the Lakers. It's when he's not successful with the Lakers that we have to kind of pick things apart a little bit and talk a little bit about the spacing and all those sorts of things tonight. He made up for it. I thought his leadership was really important tonight. He was pulling the guys together. He was selling things down on the floor the turnovers that he was forcing great great job credit where credit is due tonight was a great performance by Rajon Rondo. And in fact, why don't we let's just go straight from there and let's jump straight into the stage. Okay was there we go? Thursday all right in a must-win game in my mind for the Lakers. We had some nice contributions. Well first let's start on the negative side. Let's talk about the Houston Rockets. They end up shooting forty 1%. Which is still ridiculously good shot twenty three free throws 13 of them went to James Harden whistle sound effect. He had 27.76 two steals Eric Goldberg and Eric Gordon was eight of 16 shooting with six of 12 from Deep 24 points Russell. Westbrook might have been one of the Lakers best assets in the game tonight 13 boards for assist to steal. Yeah, but seven turnovers ten points on four of fifteen shooting Westbrook. I was we were joking online that maybe you don't want Westbrook to fall out to foul out because Cuz he was so bad that he was helping the Lakers PJ Tucker was ridiculous 11 rebounds 18 points for for seven. How many times did he grab rebounds over multiple Lakers? This man is a free agent this summer. I would not be surprised to see him in in purple and gold this this offseason and won't be some but yeah. Yeah. Yeah PJ. Yeah, he was unbelievable. But I was having that same issue with Russell Westbrook the you were cuz I kept thinking how am I doing want him to find out because you know, this is he really was I mean, you know, like this is why it's frustrating to be a Russell Westbrook and and because like, you know, when it comes to decision-making and the dog takes and you know, just sometimes he you love his passion for the game, but it's just he does some questionable stuff out there man, and he plays with a lot of emotion and it ends up across the same a lot of times and that's why it seems like on a Russell Westbrook team. You can only go so far and you know just makes it kind of hard to root for him. Sometimes I'll tell you what though Russell Westbrook is not getting the Master Lock of the nights in, Georgia. Because he helped he helped the Lakers out a ton in this one. But yeah, he can't be certainly be frustrating for the Lakers Anthony Davis 15424 shooting he wears money on that mid-range shot. It's nice to see him hitting that the power goes solid mid-range shot at that has now become a go-to weapon 480 34 points ten boards four assists one block people were saying he was soft before this game. So soft anymore great performance three of six from the line is the only kind of thing we can nitpick LeBron 10 for 17 shooting only one of five from 3 seven to ten to the line 11 boards. Ninety says four steals to blocks and turnovers was pretty rough but twenty eight points and that one block coming from the week side at an angle where he just came in and hit a slant that you wouldn't in volleyball. I mean that was absolutely incredible what the way he was that a Westbrook or somebody else. Oh, who was that? I think it was on Westbrook. I could be wrong, but I think it was yeah that was a high pressure was soon as she like just knocked that thing out. Jones I I lost Consciousness for a minute or two, so I don't remember who that was cuz I was going Reserve when he did that that was amazing Markieff Morris four of five from DP went four-for-four in the office have five boards 16 big points. We talked about how the Lakers needed somebody else to step up Markieff Morris certainly did and then we had Kyle kuzma stepped up 647 shooting for Jim six boards one block thirteen points and Rajon Rondo 449 shooting 105 from D. But nine assists and five steals, including one where he picked off guard in the open court and then took it down for the instant layup great performance from Rajon Rondo on the night the Lakers shot 57% from the field and 44% from 3. Those are probably not available. But you know, what on Night Like This we're in the mall, but jerseys we will take it. Such a widely night though, you know what? I mean, like defensively like, you know, like a defense was so many different defense has kind of thrown at the rockets and then you know, like you go from dropping Harden, but then what Westbrook was out before, you know, you just you have open Shooters and I like it's just you know, there's something about Houston that and this matchup. It's like them what you did with the last game. It's almost like you gotta watch the game back to see all the moving pieces and see exactly what's going on here cuz it's just it's so different from you know, if like this was okay. See you would be much easier kind of games to call it be much more straightforward. But with these man, it's just, you know, like, you know, the Zone defenses. I mean, you know, trapping Harden, you know, even dropping Westbrook. I mean they were really trying to get a Houston, you know out of sync and you don't work because a lot of turnovers Matt like that was a pretty awesome point of good defense. Yeah that that was really the key our chat has wage. No that it was Daniel house that that LeBron blocked on that one. Damn Daniel house. Okay, so so that's okay, right? That's that's you know, it was a great play certainly one that's going to make all the highlight reels. You mentioned watching the game back. Yeah. I took the last game back and that was tough this game. I'm happy to watch again because it had a happy ending. We don't have to worry about about getting our hearts broken on that one. But yeah, you know, you mentioned like trapping them in trapping Westbrook doing those sorts of things and the first half it was working in the second half, especially in the third quarter. We saw the Rockets make some adjustments and they started working the ball into those Corner 3s, which we know again we talked about before the Rockets want three things. They want Labs free throws and Corner threes and and they started hitting and they were not missing in the third you live by the three you die by the three that's that's true Rockets make a lot of Threes And they went on that big run in the third and that was trouble and so, you know, it was not good to see Javale McGee get hurt and hopefully we'll get an update on his status here while we're doing the show dog. But at the same time they kind of needed to get out to those three point shooters do a little bit better job there. So that necessary didn't necessarily hurt the Lakers too much. I'll tell you what though look up that line. We've got points. The one that I've been focused on all game points off turnovers. The Lakers had 27 27 points off turnovers that tells me that they're not just forcing turnovers life the shot clock expires or the ball gets knocked out of bounds, right? Those are dead ball turnovers. And those are fine. There's nothing wrong with that. You'll you'll take that but the really valuable turnovers our live ball turning. Those are the ones that the Lakers were getting tonight. They were doing a nice job shooting the passing Lanes getting steals again five steals for Rajon Rondo. That's when you get opportunities to score in transition you get opportunities to score with the rack defense is not set up and that's something they were doing in the first half in the third quarter. What happened was the Rockets offense got going they started making shots that made the Lakers defense play against the Rockets half-court game. I'm sorry Lakers offense play against the Rockets half-court defense and then they would miss shots because they were struggling to get good looks and that got the Rockets out in transition. So the third quarter sell the dynamic it flipped on its head wage. Fortunately the Lakers were able to kind of fight and turn that around again because getting into transitions going to be really important because man this this Rockets half quarts half-court defense is no joke. Yeah, and that's a great breakdown try. Thanks for thanks for putting all that out there. But like yeah, you can just tell the Lakers were at their best when they were playing that top-notch defense and then getting out in transition man. I mean they they they came back and I mean the next seemed like it was almost an instant that the Lakers went up by 8 and it was just like oh and all of that was based on a lot of what you were talking about, but it's just to go back to Houston's offense one more time ma'am. I don't think you can understate or overstate how I don't know. What's more frustrating actually James Harden getting to the free-throw line or drawing fouls and whistle sound and or PJ or PJ Tucker and Gordon with those Corner threes, man, because you know, like every time those guys launch a corner three for me. I am going in now, you know what? I mean? I don't even assume. Yeah, I just assume it's going in and you know, they got man. I don't even know how they do it. I would have to watch the tape back, but man I guess is that I guess it's not penetration and wage. Just but man, they get that corner three and loads and yeah, so it's just, you know Houston just a frustrating team and you know judging by a lot of my friends who text message me the not a very popular teen either amongst everybody even people aren't Laker fans want the Lakers to beat the Rockets some of the kind of I don't know the the holier-than-thou Twitter faith that are out there that cover the NBA that that are you know, they're they're smart basketball minds, but they tend to not like the Lakers so much. So I actually see a lot of positive rocket stuff like praising their competitiveness and all that and that's true. It is frustrating watching David James Harden and you know the whistles that he gets that's absolutely frustrating the corner three thing. Usually what's happening. There is the Lakers are doubling and then the Rockets are passing out of it happened a lot in the third quarter, they're passing out of it, but they're not just making one pass. They're making a second sometimes third pass and that's what's leading to the corner 3 because the Lakers are doing a nice job of rotating to cover the first pass. But sometimes they're not fast enough on the 3rd and if they are fast enough there to shut down that usually the fourth one is getting them and that's what the Rockets are. Very good at is hunting down those and getting a team scrambling and then moving the ball until they get that open corner-shot. I'm at a point where I almost say, you just don't believe PJ Tucker in the corner. There was one or keep Morris had to make a decision and went to Eric Gordon and closed out on him and then it left Tucker and Thursday 3 and I guess I get that but I think it was anybody other than Gordon that you're trying to cut off to you have to go stay with with Tucker and let yeah, I'm letting certainly letting Westbrook shoot it down. I'm at a point where I think that I almost let I mean Covington's pretty good. But Daniel house any of those other guys, I'm probably letting them shoot rather than give PJ Tucker the corner three, I just think well, they're probably going to make the shot down you're at a higher percentage would Tucker in the corner. So if I have to pick my poison there I'm going to let say house or somebody like that hit from above the arc rather than give the ball to Tucker in the corner, but that's something that the Lakers can look at home. District strategy there. Another thing we need to underscore here. So we talked about this after last game the Lakers 32 defensive boards. The rock is twenty seven eight offensive rebounds for the Rockets 9 for the Lakers. So we've talked about how the Lakers need to win the battle of the board's that's not happening but a video I did the other day. We explained that the reason why they're not winning the battle of the board's is because the kids are giving up the outside shots and doing everything they can to keep the Lakers off the offensive glass and if they're going to do that, you have to punish them for it by hitting your open shots. And tonight the Lakers did that shooting shooting 50% from Deep 27 attempts. The Rockets had fifty three attempts that actually makes me feel a little bit better because last game the Lakers and Rockets were really close and three point attempts the Lakers, I believe they both took summer forties. That's just too many threes for this Lakers team. I'd rather see the numbers play out like this where the Lakers are being a little bit more selective with their three. So the rebounding battle maybe is a little bit of a concern wage. But I liked the shots at the Lakers were taking tonight in general and I like the fact that when the Rockets were leaving them open they were they were hitting those shots. Yeah, like yeah, I agree. I mean they just they looked up much better offensively much more in sync. And yeah, I don't think you want to try this Lakers team. You don't want to try to match pointers. It's just not that type of team or not. I don't even know where we are. As far as three points made in the season as in comparison to other teams. I know it's not very good. So I think any time they're getting to the basket, you know, when you got home with the the post up skills. He has the footwork and you got like a mad Trump like LeBron James driving to the hoop like you, you know, you want to see it. You don't want to see them settling you know for all of that wage, you know, if it's but definitely if you since giving a mat and we can hit them. I mean that makes things, you know, then we're probably we have a good chance of blowing them out at that point. Obviously. Yeah. Yeah for sure hundred percent and that's that was what I was hoping for. I was hoping to not be on the edge of my seat all all night. I was hoping for I'm not a blowout way. I really I didn't expect that man. I almost got cocky by the end of the second quarter. I would like to look back at our text messages, but I was just I was feeling so good about it. Like all right, here we go, you know deja vu all over again wage, you know game to just like we did in Portland take care of business, but man Rockets really a put a scare in US. I mean, I told you I was nervous. I don't know if it was around the third or yeah, it would have been towards the end of the third million for those pretty nervous. It was only a one-possession game at that point. It was well, what was happening was so in the playoff playoff playoff basketball is intense man, but in the in the second quarter Choice all when the Lakers went small the reason why it worked you guys know I had that video out there to ago. That was go big or go home for for the Lakers explaining why the bigger offense was leading to more open looks the small offense worked in the second quarter because they were forcing turnovers. They were getting into transition and then when they did get into the half-court the Rockets did the same thing they did to them before they walled off the paint they kept every month. In the paint and dared the Lakers to beat the from outside and then Markieff Morris came in and went berserk and in the Lakers did just and they found them from from outside. And so the small bowl lineup worked, but you saw in the office Houston getting a lot of open looks and so that was a little bit of a concern and I actually got a few texts from people from Lakers Nation saying saying wow Lakers were like really good I said, yeah, but I'm a little bit worried that you have the Lakers can't keep shooting this odd and the rockets are getting some good looks and the next thing you know, there's this huge run in the third that Dynamic had to change and that and they they got it done defensively. That's the way you win. This series is a good defense because that is going to lead into office, but you know what? We I've been ignoring the chat for too long. So let's get into all of our comments coming in from Facebook from Periscope from YouTube and let's start up the Lakers Nation fans on right now. All right. So we are taking your questions your comments from Periscope from Facebook from YouTube. Fire them off. Let us know what we think or what you think on all of this. I have seen a few comments. Obviously a lot of comments praising Rhonda, which I love that's that's very very true. Somebody mentioning. No Dwight Howard. What do you think about that joint Howard dnp. Coach's decision did not play. What do you think about about that? Oh, hold up though. I've got a, Carson games from YouTube says this is exact kicked over five bucks and said, this is for the Rondo jersey because you remember I've got to buy a Rondo jersey of Rondo plays. Well in the Lakers go go all the way so so maybe hey if it happens, I'm going to enjoy doing it. That's for sure because I like I like playoff berth. No, that's a lot of fun. But anyway, Chris, what are your thoughts on on not seeing Dwight Howard at all tonight and then knowing with McGee hurt, we might have to see him next game. You know, I'm not sure I mean I just I found it kind of, you know, Javale McGee obviously started and I was kind of wondering if Howard was going to get any playing time after that and he said but it seemed like they had a success, you know, I think they were even running Morris at Center. That was one of their small items. So they they really yeah, so they really kind of committed to just going small especially I guess. I'm just wondering if jokes about Miggy would have gotten any more time in this game or they just kind of had that plan set in stone. I mean, I like everybody else would think they you know, they would have to be some kind of benefit to having a Dwight Howard out there with his physical Mass the size of the guy and you know being able to dominate the boards and whatnot. But you know, maybe it's just, you know, all these small guys. Maybe there's just you know, as far as Dwight Howard, it might be a little harder for Dwight to close out on the ark is what I'm getting at maybe or I don't know curious to hear what your thoughts are on birth. Yeah, so I mean the Lakers were having success going small and part of that was because of Rondo part of that was because of Markieff Morris Markieff Morris comes in gets hot. He's hitting three. Suddenly the Rockets defense gets stretched that's going to open things up a little bit more for LeBron then they were right because the Rockets before whatever the Lakers went went small they were just clogging the paint cuz they didn't even have to worry about a lot of threat or anything like that so much by the way to Caruso LeBron I was going insane, but that was great but that's not something that that you can necessarily count on every single night for Markieff Morris to get hot from behind the paperwork but tonight at work and so Vogel to his credit stuck with it. I think if McGee really is hurt. You're probably going to need white and I'll say this the playoffs are all about counters off. They're all about adjustments being made game-to-game. So the Lakers made some adjustments to the Rockets after game one that they use during game to the Rockets are now going to adjust to those adjustments and if I'm Mike D'Antoni wage, I know the Lakers are going to go small more. I'm figuring out more ways to get my guys to the rim which then is going to open up the outside shop because the defense is going to collapse. So if that's the case, you might find yourself needing to put into white to help protect the rim a little bit. So it's going to be interesting to see how the next game plays out. I don't think this means we've seen the end of Dwight Howard in this series at all. I think it was just Vogel and I I can't even say Vogel a game plan going in I can just say Vogel saw what was working and he saw that Morris was hitting a shots and once you do that that stretches the defense and and it worked and so he stuck with it and again that's credit to him. Then I have to say I don't think we we talked about him and I've seen a few people actually mentioned on my felt like who's gave us some good for sure tonight. For sure. What is my phone number was was great and I'll tell you what I really liked is I believe it was his first two baskets were off of cuts. Not him just can't be out behind the arc. And hey, I'm going to play a floor spacer because the Rockets were more than happy to let him stand out there. He was cutting to the basket and that was a great adjustment because he and Caruso are probably the best on the team in terms of not just cutting to the basket but understanding the timing of when to cut down the openings are he's very very good at that. So that was a nice change because that gives the Rockets something else to think about when they are all collapsing down on the Lakers bags and trying to prevent offensive boards suck you get kuzma flying in from out of nowhere and an easy drop-off passed to him that makes a big difference. So I love the way they use kuzma today. I thought he did some really nice things defensively to had a nice block at one point dead. Great game for him leave on Joseph says how do you guys expect the Rockets to play in game three? So Chris, what are they doing to counter all of this if they're the Rockets? Cool, man. I don't know, you know, I would think they would want to get going a little more and Russell Westbrook. Honestly, I mean, you know, it's kind of surprising that the Rockets were able to go on that run they did and it was a big chunk of that was just off PJ and Gordon offense cuz I don't know what hearted finished with I can't remember what he went through it. But man hard it was held for like four points by the house or something like that. I think really low. He's got 27 at the end of the game and he had a bunch of free throws in the in the first year so that that helped him get his point total as always so that helped him get his point total total up but he also had five turnovers. And so that was that was good to see but you're right it was Eric Gordon and then even Seventeen from Robert Covington on four of eight from 3. He had some big threes for them to oh, yeah. So yeah, I think they're going to you know, if anything, you know, they're obviously going to try to figure out how to get hardened going maybe a little sooner and then you know with Russell Westbrook man. I don't know I would just be you know, it'd probably be disrespectful birth. Would tell was prepared just you know, don't shoot outside of the Ark even if they're giving it just don't I mean like we need we need we need you getting to the bucket drawing fouls took it out initiating offense, you know, not you know thinking like, oh, they're giving me so much space. So let me take the I'll be the one to take the first shot available. But you know, it just works out for us if he does, so, but I'm figuring that they would want to make some adjustments with those guys cuz it seems like they're Supporting Cast actually did a lot more than the yeah certainly in Westbrook's case Garden. I think we're still good. But but was obviously I think I think Westbrook helpfully a lot tonight Colonel Bushell Johnson says D'antoni is not known for his adjustments true, but I'm not saying so like the Lakers can make adjustments in terms of do we go big do we go small do we use Markieff Morris is at kuzma is you know, because they can they've got a little bit more flexibility there. The Rockets are all in on small ball. So when I say they can make adjustments off. I mean they're going to change like suddenly they're running Tyson Chandler and they're running into a true Center. That's not we're talking about saying they can make little tweaks like Chris. You mentioned the Russell Westbrook thing. That's a great point. I would be very surprised if we don't see Russell Westbrook when he has space because the Lakers are are just not closing out on him behind the arc if he doesn't drive in and force the issue, I think that's the adjustment that we're going to see the makeup was seeing him attack the basket trying to either get to the free-throw line or kick out to somebody who can shoot threes. I think that we'll see that one Max. Oh shoot. I lost I'm sorry guys. I try to keep up with these questions as best as I came but they go by pretty pretty fast, which is awesome. I'm trying to help I had one that was it was somebody asking something and something about the rockets and then I and then I lost it flew past. So are you Well, somebody's asking about the NBA ratings drop dropping. I don't know if that's really an issue for us. We could talk about that real quick. So oh my gosh, somebody just said I need to get a Rondo tattoo off. I'm not going that far man. I'm not going that's why I'm saving my tattoo space for forever. Slop a Rondo jersey as far enough. You gotta you gotta get your bumper. You got to get your mom puts out to First. You gotta get that's right. That's right. I'll get any Kobe across my Knuckles. How about I have no idea? Probably ridiculous. It would be yes people who are asking about about Dion Waiters. He had a groin injury. And so Dion Waiters is out. I don't know if it's like the the Montgomery groin injury the Bears running back who is on my fantasy team that might be able to play in week 1 might not could be like a two to four week injury. We don't know the severity of it remember off LeBron's growing injury kept him out for a while last year and it was something that was still kind of lingering. So best of luck to two waiters. I hope you know, it's certainly frustrating that he finally gets on the floor and we've been asking for forever and then he suffers that kind of injury, so that's that's certainly unfortunate. So we'll talk about They traveled here's here's what what actually here. I just thought you real quick based off what we saw tonight should cruise star. No, I don't think I'm changing the starting line. Like maybe you go Dwight instead of Javale McGee. I think the Lakers got off to an okay start in this one and I liked that it kind of threw the rockets for a little bit of a loop that the Lakers like pull the plug on the big lineup then went small and the next thing you know, they're hitting them with all these different outlooks and I think it helps you more to start the game off with a big in there. I like winning the opening tip. I like being able to set the tone and and all of that it was ugly at the start there were some sloppy moments for sure, but I just like having that kind of extra physical presence out there and then if you want to pull the plug on it two or three minutes in and put in a smaller player and go small fine, but I think I'm keeping the starting lineup the same just to kind of keep that off that consistency. Let's get into some of these. And this was way too long. This one's way too long. Some of them are too long to to read but why does okay. So Trey a manual said, why does JR Smith not play? Do you remember what happened the it is do you remember what happened the last time JR Smith played so well, what do you think about the highlights that for the last time Jerry Smith played he fouled a three point shooter and gave up a four-point play and then he shot a 3 from standing out about like just standing out about like not like his heel was on the line. He was standing out of bounds and he caught the ball from there. So you can't do that stuff in the place and not that I hate Jerry Smith or anything like that. But I mean, I understand why Vogel went away from it. It makes sense cuz you can't do that stuff and in the playoffs just you made me nervous every time he got the ball and made me nervous and no offence to hack. You know what I mean? He might just need to get more reps or whatever, but I'm not in play-off time. You know what I mean? Not in play-off time or you know, not if we got somebody else we know quite frankly right hundred percent. Hundred percent and so question here Ami from YouTube said Trevor. Do you like seeing Alex Caruso and Rondo at the same time on the court and then they put a little fire Emoji gained in general know as a general practice because I think that's not enough shooting but tonight it worked because both were pretty good defensively. Is that is that what you saw as well Chris? Yeah, those guys were past they were, you know, really getting up into people and stuff so lights and I agree with you like I don't think that's always going to work because it's not enough offense, but I you know, if you want to put two guys will get kind of Scrappy on there, especially, you know, when Rhonda was feeling good like he was tonight. I mean, I definitely you know, I loved it tonight and I think I'm going to love it again at some point. But you know just a steady dose of it, you know, because I mean again that limits, you know, Alex is not a huge outside shooter, you know what I mean and be obviously neither is Rondo so it kind of juice No Limits you as far as that which is which is why it's it feels better to have one or the other typically but for tonight it worked out great. Yeah, and I think a lot of it was because that way we talked about before with the defense where when they were getting stops and better yet forcing live-ball turnovers that was creating easier offense offense for them. So so that was what matter if your crew so on the night by the way was a 145 shooting two points over to from Deep Forest this one steal and you would look at that stat line and go. Oh this guy's no good, but some of the things that he did on the defensive end were incredible. I mean, he made close up like I don't know if I've ever stood up and cheered for a close out but there were a number of times where I did in this game because Caruso was on one side of the floor goes flying together app shuts down to three point look and on one of them. In fact, he forced a live ball turn over that turned into a Lakers basket going the other way. He was tremendous on the defensive end of the floor. And again, he was he didn't have a great offensive game. Game, but the thing this guide can do defensively is is absolutely phenomenal. Robert Gonzales. Hey Trevor, talk about playoff Rondo. Is he not a myth? He is real man. He also needs to shoot less threes. Yeah. This was this was playoff Rondo, right? This is what we saw. We saw wage really Step It Up gotta love that as far as the three is 145 from Deep. He shot 40% last game. He was 245 last game. He was 145 this game. You name one more make and you're perfectly acceptable with Rondo shooting at 3. If it's 40% they can't leave them out there if he shoots 20% 145 they're going to leave them out there all day. So really we're talking about One Missed shot. That's the difference for Rondo between a good 3-point performance and a bad performance. He's the kind of guy where they're going to leave him all day and if he can knock them down, maybe that'll eventually change things. But for right now teams are going to continue leaving him. So if he's wide open and he's in Rhythm, I think he's gotta keep taking them and and hopefully he can make teams pay for it because look if off. Don't get hit two out of every five. It seems will leave him open all day then play run to 48 minutes and let him shoot threes. Every possession of the game. Cuz 40% for deep is is good. If he can't then you're in trouble. So we'll see what what he does but he's gotta keep taking them as long as he truly is wide wide open. It's not your first option. But if it's there, I think you've gotta trust that he can knock that down. He has gone on hot streaks before shot 45% from Deep this last November. I don't know until he goes on a terrible cold streak. I think you gotta take them. Yeah, I just I don't think he's going to consistently ever do it gave in and came out some point where it's going to change the way people teams defend the Lakers and that's the issue because I mean, I thought think back where Rhonda has that games where they leave him open and he'll start sinking them, but he still he just he's not able to do it. It's like, you know, it's the exception not the rule type of thing off. It seems like terrorist Stubblefield says was the zone defense better than doubling Harding. What do you think about that the zone defense? Did you like better than throwing the double team at James Harden? I don't know if I'm ready to go there yet. Yeah, I don't I don't know for sure if I liked it better. Although I just know that the it seemed might be double-teamed was causing many more of those open three-point looks at at certain points in the game. I tend to want to think that it seemed like there was more success just visually from watching it the first time from the zone defense, but I'm not completely sure on that and it's mainly just cuz my gut tells me that it seemed my those doubles were working initially in the game. But then as the game progressed they started the Rockets really started making that effort to make like you were saying that extra pass and then that extra extra pass it was no longer working that well, they started getting a lot of those open threes Corner threes and then all of a sudden we weren't in the lead anymore. So that's just my feeling just watching it just the ones over but do you agree with that? Yeah, so clearly the rockets at halftime made some adjustments or at least discussed how to handle that double team because once they came out for the third quarter, they started picking the Lakers apart on the double dead. It's one of those things where I'm going to have to go back and re-watch. So most games like as just just as fans in general. Okay for basketball games. We tend to watch the ball. That's what our eyes drawn to but that's where eighty percent of the game is not taking place. Right 80% is taking play softball and that often has a big big impact on what goes down to that's where a guy like Alex, so shine says the things that he does off the ball, even if he's not defending the ball-handler. He does some amazing things that make a big difference but they don't stand out people don't notice it unless you are forcing yourself to watch it off. There are times during a game where when I'm watching I try to make myself not watch whether or not the shot goes in but instead watch everybody else on the floor and see what they're doing, but it's still a difficult thing because you're I will automatically go to the ball and especially in a game like this. I I struggled with it because I wanted the Lakers shots to go in and I wanted the Rockets chance to go out and walk. It was it was one of those edge-of-your-seat games and so I'm gonna have to go back and re-watch this to get a more concrete idea of you know, this is where the Zone work versus this is where the double word. I will say that I like the Lakers were mixing it up and giving the Rockets different looks so so one counter wasn't going to work maybe the next trip down the floor because they would go to Zone and Rondo and a lot of cases was the guy switching the Lakers defect calling it out on the fly. So that was cool to see. Yeah, I like that. I like how they mixed it up like that tonight. I think that was good keep them guessing and they caused a lot of turnovers for the Rockets. I think in the end zone. Yep Yeah a hundred percent. All right, let's take a couple more questions and then we got to get into the Master Lock of the night. So hope you've been thinking about this one Chris few more questions that we're off the Master Lock of the night. Okay, somebody just mentioned JaVale is getting x-rays as we speak. So hopefully that is accurate. I haven't hopped over onto Twitter. So please okay. Yeah, so hopefully he is. All right. Yep. Hey, this is a good one. Somebody said Rondeau is + 28. That's incredible. Yeah, how about that? Do you believe in unlikelihood playoff? Rondo leads the Lakers and plus minus a plus a 28 on the night. Second-place Markieff Morris and LeBron James tied at + 50. Wow, man, like why you know what Rondo really shut us up in your life. And I I'm not saying that I would you know that first game we just all felt like it was too many minutes for Rondo just coming back. You know what I mean? It wasn't me get personally gets wrong. I don't dislike Wanda like you do travel pass. Come on Chris. I know dislike Rondo, he's fine. He said he's a nice. He's very smart. He's he's a smart guy he knew him and all that but but yes. No, I just I just hate Rondo and I you know, I hope he's terrible and avenge him every single game now. I do love Caruso and I had a love that's what else you know Lakers Nation knows that we all know this song. No, I was glad to see Roswell. Yeah, you're one step closer. We're one step closer to that playoff Rhonda. We're one step away from Jersey. Props Orondo for tonight man. Like I was just the point I was getting to is Rondo, you know, like yeah, it wasn't just us a lot of people have been critical of Rondo, especially even in that last game. He had like this month this bad shop all by a turnover that got all over Instagram but like, you know running really shut everybody up and did a great job tonight and maybe we want him to be successful. Nobody dislikes Rondo here, we wash be successful. And of course, we want playoff Rondo and we want forever to have to buy a platform to Jersey. So we are on our way. Yes, I would I would love to have to buy a playoff run New Jersey. That would be amazing. So I'm getting a few questions in here rubber Gonzales. Hey Trevor as a too early to talk about re-signing Rondo. Okay, so contractually Rundle has a player option for next year God for the league minimum or for the veteran minimum wage should say so that's what is option is I can't imagine there's going to be some huge offers out there for maybe a playoff Rondo shows up for the rest of the playoffs. He'll have a bigger authors. But I would have to imagine he probably picks up his player option. That's where I'm at. Right now Lemme marital, I'm seeing that your posted the same thing over and over again, but it's like a paragraph and it goes by so fast, I can't read it. So I know you're based on the same message A bunch, but I don't have time to read the whole thing. Cuz it moves by too fast. Sorry man. Okay, we're going to do one more one more and then we're going to get into the Master Lock of the night and we going to talk about it a little bit before we get into that one. All right, here's one that says what's going on with the Lakers and boxing out. Okay. So PJ Tucker got a number of offensive boards because the Lakers were we're not doing a good job boxing out. They were born watching a little bit too much. Tucker had four offensive boards on his own and the rockets had eight as a team Westbrook had the other for two guys had all eight of the Rockets offensive boards. So that's the issue on the offensive glass. The Lakers were losing sight of the man in the corner and he was sneaking along the Baseline and often that was Tucker Westbrook. Did it a few times to yeah. We saw Shack on one play against the Rockets. He did the same thing. So it's tough when you've got a guy flying in from behind the arc, but still that that's that's something that the Lakers will go back. They'll look at the few the film them and they'll try to adjust for that. I'm very confident bring vocals will address that before the next game now it's saying they're not still going to get away with it a few times, but I think it's something that they will focus in a bit more on. All right. Let's see here. We got one comment playoff. Rondo is real. Yeah playoff. Rhonda was indeed real. All right. Where will do one more Andre from YouTube said can you explain how the Lakers attacked the Rockets defense? Okay, so they did more things to get especially right at the beginning they get they did more thing to get Anthony Davis in motion. So he was coming across the lane and then catching the ball up closer to the basket. That was a was a big big Difference Maker that was part of what they were doing to attack it. You will also saw them focusing a bit more as far as LeBron attacking the basket that makes a difference too. But I think we also saw Lakers team that was more willing to take some of the the page or open books that they were being given instead of forcing shots and that was critical because we saw a little bit more drive-and-kick action from the Lakers tonight. So that was was also a big thing. But but for me, the biggest thing was the adjustment for Anthony Davis getting him the ball and at least that high post area and the letting him go to work from there rather than him catching the ball out behind the three-point line and then trying to make things happen. I think that was important. I also think wage That they were a little down a little bit more urgency in the fast break in transition and they were more effective in transition than we saw them in game one when they got to stop they knew that was a good high scoring opportunity for them. Whereas going up against the Rockets half-court defense was was still a struggle. So I would expect to see more of the same your defense becomes your offense. I think that's kind of where the Lakers are at right now in this series. I think what you said about a d was so important that like when you watch what he did in that first game like when a baby is settling I get concerned but when a baby is moving when it is getting closer to the birth of Jesus hurting himself. Usually we're dominant, you know, so like, you know, whatever it is. Hopefully a d can just keep bringing that and not you know, let PJ Tucker push them out too far away from the adjuster which seemed like a lot of the problem in the last game and you know, just settling for those shots farther from the basket not moving as much like you were saying and you know getting it in the high post. Okay. So let's talk let's talk and that's that's accurate. I love the the the the analysis there Chris, but let's talk a little bit about the Master Lock of the night. I'm getting some people popping in here saying who is getting it. So people saying they just go off Master Lock Chris Masters. So now they know what it is. What are the qualifications for a master lock. So before we even let's I guess let's define it first. So the Master Lock was is Chris. Chris is finishing hold in the Reg. Ring and it's a it's a full nelson essentially that where he just ragdolls something you guys are going to see some clips of it here just a second and he causes the other person to pass out. So the Master Lock of the night goes wrong person that we feel like based on what they did in this game or sometimes off the court in the in the case of Charles Barkley who deserves to be paid to the best of nerve. Yes, strikes a nerve who I mean we've even we gave one a couple of days ago to a couple of games to go to Frank boell branches based on some of the decisions. So it's not always on the opposing team. It can be somebody that maybe comes as a really bad night. So he gets the master Wok of the night but we're always striving for somebody to from the other team typically to get Mastiff out cuz that means if somebody on our side did they didn't have such a great outing with the idea is a is a full nelson it cuts off blood blood flow to the brain and then you essentially pass out. So that's just visualized that and Chris I would want to do that job. I got a message this morning and I shared it with you. Somebody created a website that is now tracking who is getting the Master Lock of the night each night, which is which is I guess they're going to be keeping us on it because now we're going to be charting. How many times just a Laker get it how many times does an opposing player get it but that is the the the way the Master Lock of the night works Chris. Are you ready? Yeah, I think so. Okay. I think I have let's get into it here. We go off even really really off. All right, I don't know who this is going to be. So I am on the edge of my seat. Just like the rest of you Chris who is getting put in the Master Lock two nights dead. Well, I'm looking at the chat and I'm feeling much better about my decision cuz during into the show. I didn't really have like a clear-cut winner like oh who should be messed about tonight, but I would like to announce right here right now that I tonight Master Lock of the night is actually not just a one Master Lock. It's actually a dual Master Lock and it's going to page Tucker and Gordon and Eric Miller eyes are getting Master Lock tonight. Yep, and I'm strictly picking those two guys because if you visually watch the game as a Lakers fan tonight, and there's any too long as that you would want to put on the floor. It was those two guys. So PJ Tucker Eric Gordon, those are our Master luck at the night winners tonight. What do you guys think? I remember that's what most of the people in the chat are sacred couldn't give it to Westbrook because West rotated as a huge. Yeah, and it prefaced at the beginning of the show and I see somebody here writing westrick Westbrook, but that's a good thing for us take off. Yeah. Oh, yeah, we wanted that's why we were upset when he got a fifth foul were like know keep him out there keep him out there because he was he was playing terribly so we will take that. But all right. So Eric Gordon gets the the Master Lock he shot 24 points at 6 or 12 from Deep. Add PJ Tucker gets Edwards of seven, but which is frustrating tonight. We're frustrated. I know they were fresh off those. I mean Gordon really let us up man. He look us up from everywhere. But PJ Tucker those those two guys with those Corner threes. I swear they just drive me insane and then you know, you were just thought it was actually a perfect segue into this you were just talking about PJ Tucker's offensive rebounds the fact that he even gets any rebounds is infuriating. So, you know, obviously they're getting Master logs for playing ball tonight. So, you know, they can take it as a compliment. Congratulations. You played well and now you're unconscious. Yeah, PJ p65 PJ Tucker is 6 a.m. He had four offensive rebounds which is yeah, certainly infuriating and Master Lock worthy. But, you know not to mention not to mention. I would love to put PJ Tucker best of luck. And then steal his shoe collection of a guy has a boat shoes. This guy's got so many. He's got a Kobe for every night of the year. It's unbelievable. That's yeah, that's something that you could do while he is unconscious from the master log. You can go take it up. You might as hotel Key, you might have to do a few Master locks in order to get them to stay under long enough to take all those shoes. But but yes, she is amazing shoes. But so deserving of the Master Lock tonight PJ Tucker and Aaron Gordon. I have a feeling at some point double. Yes, the double master lock. I'm feeling at some point we're going to do one on on James Harden's free throws, but but because I think that was the other frustrating thing, but I agree with you a hundred percent site. Chris are recorded PJ Tucker. They were hitting shots that were keeping the rockets in it off. Hopefully they will not be able to hit those shots next game. Now that you know, they're all kind of tense up in the neck area and everything from having that pressure on them. Hopefully that'll keep them from exactly from hitting those shots. Let's finish with this. What are you guys looking for going into game to from David see so I want to say the Lakers do some more of the same in terms of focusing on the defensive end. I am at a point now with this series wage whether you go big or whether you go small and I think there are some offensive advantages to go in bank and we've discussed those especially on the video. I did earlier in the week the Lakers fortunately were hitting their shots tonight. And so that kind of eased up the need to have that big in there that's drawing attention down low. I think ultimately you win this series with defense. I think that's what it comes down to and so the Lakers have got a lock in on how do we stop the Rockets, How do we get the ball in transition? Because this Rockets defense is good. It's creating some issues for the Lakers. And if Anthony Davis isn't hitting from the mid-range and you don't have Markieff Morris hitting threes than the Lakers game. In a little bit of trouble. So I think the focal point has got to be continuing to get those stops on the defensive and how about you Chris? What are you going to be looking for? I'm just going to add to what you said and narrow it down to the Home Defense transition and then a d you know what? I mean? Just getting a d playing the way he did tonight. You know what I mean? Like as opposed to game one. I mean just Just what they did tonight man. That's it. What he did tonight defense transition, you know, I mean those three things they really did a great job in those tonight. I just like to see them do that again. Yeah, and I think let's add one more thing. So you took three things there. Let's add a fourth number for we had bro from YouTube said Rajon Rondo great defense tonight and assisting yeah number for the 4th thing. I want to see playoff Rondo if we can get more more than a ferrando that that would be absolutely wonderful. I love it. All right guys, appreciate all of you tossing in your questions and comments. We've got to come in from YouTube from Facebook from Periscope off. You guys did a great great job tonight. Appreciate it. As always thanks for joining us next Gabe. Let's see that'll be Tuesday. So we'll be back at it again Tuesday after the Lakers take on the rockets in game three. Hopefully, they'll go up two games to one in the series, but do look out the Rockets are going to make some adjustments a little tweaks here and there so be ready for that and that game and keep an eye on what Frank vocal does to maybe counter some of those things. That the Rockets do don't forget guys follow Lakers Nation across social media at Lakers Nation on Twitter and Facebook at Lakers Nation official on Instagram. You guys know we're putting in a lot of work on the Lakers Nation YouTube channel. I'm posting videos are every single day. So if you guys wouldn't mind go subscribe to our Lakers Nation YouTube channel, and then don't forget to bring the notification Bell. So you get notified when we do things like this and we go live and talk directly with you. Just want to follow me on Twitter. You can find me at Trevor underscore lane or an Instagram at Trevor Lane NBA and you can follow Chris at Chris Adonis on Twitter at Chris Masters 310 on Instagram. Chris. 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Avery Bradley Replacements, JR Smith, Dwight Howard Update

Lakers Nation Podcast

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Avery Bradley Replacements, JR Smith, Dwight Howard Update

"Bleeding purple and gold from the heart of Los Angeles. This is the Lakers nation dot com podcast euros Trevor Lane. Hello, everybody welcome in the Lakers. Nisha podcasts a live. Thanks for joining us with your coming in from Youtube from periscope from facebook. Welcome. If you are listening to the podcast version of this, she'd you re review in subscribe over on Apple podcasts? My Name's Leeann from Lakers nation dot com, joining me as always. We've got Chris the masterpiece. Masters Back in action Gary Sheffield Junior guys. How're you doing lots to talk about tonight? I'm terribly Avery Bradley. We'll. We'll get into talk a lot about ESPN and but that was horrible for me. Because I never I never could see that happening, but I'll save it for later. What's up, Chris? Nothing guys I mean it's great. It's good to be back here Laker. Station I went out to Michigan for a few days, hung out with my dad's side of the family, and that was incredible as a nice change of pace, but I missed you guys miss. Lakers nation and excited to be back on the show and be back way. Well I should say sorry for those you joining live I know. We came on a little bit late. We had a few technical issues that we were that we were working through. It was fun, but but we managed to get it, so thank you guys all of you in the chat right now for for stick with us. I guess really the big topic of the day. We've got a few different things that we that we're going to talk about but the big topic for the day is avery the Avery Bradley for anybody who doesn't know. There's even hiding to Iraq you haven't been watching the Lakers nation youtube channel where already posted two videos about this, but avery Bradley decided to not head to Orlando with the team that he will be going there on July ninth. That is their scheduled date to go to Orlando but Avery Bradley will not be that means the Lakers are down a starter. I think it's some people were giving me a hard time for this but I think we're not making a big enough deal about this. I think either Bradley is a more critical piece to this team that a lot of people are giving them credit for I, saw way too people that were just kind of brushing it off like no big deal kcpt. We'll take his spot. We're all good. No, we're not, and I'm not saying that means. This guy is fully. It's a loss. It is a definite loss in it something. The Lakers are going to have to overcome. It is but before we dive into what they need to do to overcome it, Chris. How do you feel? Are you okay with Avery Bradley Making that decision? There's some people out there. That have a little bit of animosity towards Ab Right now. You Know I. Don't I can't say I do have a problem with it. I mean for me. I would feel like if if you gave the reason for social, the social unrest or the movement I would understand that as much because I feel like the playoffs are going to be a great platform for that movement if they really focus in on that and partner with the NBA The players and that's going to be a big huge commercial for civil rights and. progressive progressivism in this country, but. As you said it was due family and apparently I think he might even have a kid who has You know some kind of respiratory illness so when you put it that way I mean. You can't really dog on my I mean. Obviously I wish you could play, and it's going to be really difficult like you're saying to. You can't really replace him because we have the issue. We're GONNA have a lot of point guards that after be guarded, and we were kind of depending on Avery Bradley to do that, so it's a little scary and you know Casey. P can't really fill that void, but I know Casey PR pensively at least can do some stuff for us or was doing great voice so You know I'm okay with it, but you know it sucks on the other hand you know and I hope that he didn't ghost team like you know even hearing. Yeah I mean that was the report. Right that you never really know how true those are especially in the NBA so it's really difficult to say so. I'm going to hold off on making an opinion on avery. Bradley based on the give the Bentham I will give him the benefit of the doubt that Lebron and company. They all knew. What is decision was going to be so I'll just hold off on that, but for the most part. This is terrible for the Lakers because this is like taking a Robert Ory, or not saying he is a Robert Ory, but he is a key role player for this team. This team is very thin. They had no death really talking with very top-heavy team. So would you take off one of these key role players, a guy who potentially we saw big clippers games in Bucks Games can go give you twenty five on a random night, but defensively he's he's the catalyst team decides Anthony Davis I mean he's an absolute dynamo on the defensive end of the basketball, so it really sucks for this. This to happen. He was very much like Alex Caruso, lot of intensity on the defensive end, and you're not going to be able to replacement. There's not going to be a replacement sitting out there. In the Major Smith, and most people are in the chatter talking about Jr. he's very good shooter. He's going to bring a lot to this team, but he's not going to bring what Avery Bradley. Bradley brought to the team on the defensive end, and that's what they needed. They needed to be able to stop people because of the postseason when a team with Anthony Davis and Lebron James on offense event are getting stops. You're not gonNA have the chance to beat them, so this is going to be very hard. What did the Lakers in the past? Do with no Derek Fisher. What do. Do you do without a Robert Ory, and yes, you get to keep shocking cobaine. It's great, but without those key role players what ends up happening. You never know it's tough exactly exactly that look avery. Bradley is not the Straw that broke. The camel's back right? It's not gonNA be Avery. Bradley is the reason why you don't win a championship or something like that, but he but this matters. It's going to matter I promise if the Lakers seed. Damian Lillard in the first round, and you don't have avery Bradley to go put on them you don't have. To go put on James Harden or or Jamaal Burt, if they see them at some point or any of those plays, Chris Paul Right. You don't have avery Bradley. Stick those guys. That's a problem. Heck, even if play the Clip Avery Bradley was harassing Patrick Beverley. I liked it. Somebody getting Patrick Beverley skin for a change. Don't have that Guidi more. That's a problem. I've got a question here from the king. So, maybe it's Lebron's burner account here from periscope, so said especially with the definitive statement like this said he won't be a Laker next year he won't. Here's a player option I he has a player option, and that's the. That's the hard part I mean. What do they think of them? Honestly and we'll. We'll have to find that out over time and yeah. We've heard like Christmas saying that Danny Green came out in support of him and again we didn't. We did not necessarily complaining I. Have No complaints really about his decision. It just hurts the Lakers really how he makes that decision, because if he makes this decision and he did say Ghosh's teammates didn't give him a heads up and he just said. said. You guys can go handle it yourself. This is going to affect him next seat. That's GonNa Affect. The entire Camaraderie of this team going into next season and you're not gonNA WANNA. Bring that guy back. That's when you're gonNA, start seeing replacements the Lakers, taking flyers on other free agents, so that's going to be hard. This Lakers team really needed every Bradley. especially in this postseason. The way it's shaping up. The the teams were expecting to see. Damian Lillard. They need every Bradley on the team to be able to beat the Portland Trailblazers. It's going to be a one twenty five to one twenty one game without him, and that's very hard to to prepare in. Prepare to really make a prediction on what could happen because you do not want to get in those type of maps, or you don't want to shoot out. Exactly in the strength of this team Avery Bradley was very much part of what the strength of the team was the physicality that everyone was talking about. We need more physical players. We need a guy that can knock a guy down avery. Bradley in a way brought a toughness to team defensively now goes away. To Russo. Is at the forefront of physicality in terms of guard play, he is going to be the most important player on this team because Lebron James and Anthony Davis are going to be themselves, but what exactly to be that third guy that you can really focus on who can impose his will on every game for me now, Alex Caruso is at the forefront. Yeah. He's gotta be. It's GonNa. It's it's Caruso time. That's that's it. He's the only guy that can replicate what. What. Avery Bradley brings the only one that's it. Rondo can't do it. Can't do look at his defensive metrics. I tweeted about this last night. I did a video based on earlier today. If you haven't seen it, I'M NOT GONNA go into detail all of them, but the bottom line is the defence is much worse with Casey p than when with Avery Bradley, and that's not a knock on case, EP. It's not like saying he's not as good of a defenders. Avery Bradley. Okay, that's like saying okay well. Then you know Jason Tatum is good as Lebron James. Right. That's not a knock on Tatum, but it means that is what it is but the bottom line is the defense will suffer, and all the metrics showed that Casey P can offset that a little bit with his offense and I think if you look at the curls and things like that that that avery. Bradley had success with Casey can do those things I'm not worried about the offense, and it's the defensive end where where you're. You're getting a little bit of trouble but you know what I hope. He comes back next year. I hope he's because guys like him are so rare to have a defensive ace that you can put out there. And that's hard to find. Every team in the League is looking for three D. players so I would like to see him back I hope he picks up that player option because I. Don't think you're going to find somebody who can replace what he does. They're certainly nobody out there on the market right now. That can do those things not at all. All they might have to go Kansas. City chiefs on us. Just go all offense offense, because with is an ofensive. That's really an offense of peace. What can he do in terms of spacing? He could be a really good player for this team offensively. It's really what this team needed. A guy who could take in make terrible shots and you're GONNA get. Get a lot of 'em late shot clock in with especially with a lot of double teams coming off Anthony, Davis and Lebron James. There's going to be a lot of jump shots Jr Smith especially on this roster I text. You came on the show that I can see jr sliding into the starting lineup because I mean he's a bigger body. Who could potentially? Potentially guard bigger, maybe smaller threes, man. I mean he's done it before, and yes, he's older, and that's going to be the hard part. There's not going to be a perfect fit defensively, but in terms of what he can bring offensively. There's a high ceiling for JR Smith A. He has a huge role to fill, so it's it's going to be tough. No doubt? Let's get into some of these here. all right so of course I've got some people still saying Avery Bradley is no big deal. Right like I've got A. is saying Avery, Bradley. Son is way more important than a Lakers championship. Absolutely absolutely we were. Speaking specifically about the basketball court. That's it right if he feels like his son's life is in jeopardy by him going. Don't go right I. wouldn't go if I thought my kid was dangerous now. We're not talking about all just talking about basketball, but. I think that people are under selling avery Bradley still in it. And I want to be optimistic I. Know that's what it is. They're trying to stay optimistic about the Lakers. Chances and they don't want to admit that. Avery Bradley is a really big piece. Because doing so you have to admit that the Lakers. Chances Just went down to win NBA Championship. And I get that but. It's just not true. Whether it shouldn't under solid because all you have to do is look at the opposing point. Guards in the West and you can see like his I quite frankly, I get nervous now. Thinking about okay is as Taneja Zalis. Caruso isn't as much as we love him to give him this kind of responsibility when he he hasn't even played a playoff game as almost kind of ludicrous right lights. It's crazy per south. Those kind of expectations so religious comes down to like. Yeah, we're you know. Every Bradley I think average something around eight. Maybe ten points I. Mean So. That's not really what we're looking at. You know again. We're just looking at the fact that we have a lot of quick dynamic point guards that are going to have to be guarded and you know Lebron's not taking that spot. Lebron runs runs the point for the Lakers, but I mean he doesn't guard the David. Lillard in the Chris Balls Russell Westbrook so. It's very concerning man like you know. A lot of these guys are probably. Alice crusoe's going to have a tough time at trying to guard some of these guys and Casey, p. Well let's be honest. Caruso is not only going to have a tough time, but his minutes are going to jump exponentially. which which is good good? Maybe, but we don't know if he's prepared for that. Same efficiency exactly, and that's going to be the hard thing because. It's going to be early That's the hard part if we do see Portland. That's an early series. This is not outs Caruso always in tip top shape. He's going to be going from as nations. Little benched Guy Plays fifteen eighteen minutes. He's now being thrown into that Matthew Della Vedova role where he's having to throw his body really just putting his body on the line for a forty minutes stretch. He's going to have to be on the floor for twenty eight to thirty five minutes in the game, and that's going to be very hard and not to say. He is. A great body basketball and he's been very durable for this team, but when you're running around with Damian, Lillard for forty minutes. Damian Lillard been doing this all season long. He's prepared for that type for a long series. He's done it before. This is not his first playoff series will ouch crew do that and if al of doesn't hold up the Lakers, chances and there, because if Damian Lillard is going off for a long period of time, it's going to haunt you in the long haul. You're not. Not GonNA be able to. There's a reason that the Portland Trailblazers. They don't just move on from a guy like this. They know they're. They're kind of stuck in four or five slot, but they know he can carry them through a playoff series all the way to the Western Conference finals so when you allow a guy like that to get hot in a team, there's one injury or or one sickness just like this. This could change the entire landscape of the NBA, literally could. Change Championship could change. That Trophy Avery Bradley, not being able to guard Damian. Lillard is going to be hard. It's going to be very tough. You might even see Lebron. Garden at some point. Yeah! I mean I wouldn't be surprised. We've seen Lebron do that the past. Due to right now at this point guy, somebody asked him to chat a little bit ago. I'm sorry I missed the name but ASCANI Bradley change his mind. Yes, in that piggybacks on the other question. We've been getting what's going on with White Howard. Here's what's happened K.. We were told over and over again July twenty four. That's the deadline. Players have to let teams know. Meanwhile all the teams in the back of their minds said well. Yeah, but we don't have to tell anybody who's actually on our roster July first so July first deadline so me I was sitting around all day yesterday on pins and needles going Winston Howard news going to break. I was I had to read the grocery store, and I was up and down the aisles. Because I'm like Oh my God, the news is GonNa, break I can't do. I can't be away from for my computer for a moment. didn't happen because they're really looking at that July first date. Technically yes, Avery Bradley could change his mind between now, and July, first once they submit that roster. No can't change mind that pays, so he could. Is it likely no, but he could. That's also why we haven't heard on Dwight Howard yet. Although based on. I can't confirm this. It was something I saw Lakers read it. There's a picture of the White Howard working out I couldn't figure out where the picture came from I. Didn't spend a whole lot of time playing detective on it or anything like that, but. But he looks in shape. Yeah, he looks ready to play. He looks like a guy who's ready to play basketball. Let's say that all right I feel. Okay that that Dwight Howard is going to play I I think that's going to happen so if it doesn't. Then the big big trouble and we'll get to that at some point, but but let's stick with Avery Bradley thing. The name that keeps popping up JR Smith. Gary through something out here. Chris, helping Gary Gary texting us. I think he takes both of us. This this lineup that he's got this new starting lineup that that's been bouncing around in his head. That he says Jason the starting five. Along with Casey. Pena Marquee Markeith. Moore's because I want eighty eight. It was more keeping stomach ACP, yes. So. Okay, so it was JR Smith. It was Lebron AD. Markeith, Morris and Dwight Howard. Yes, so all owners except for Lebron and AD. Didn't even really respond the tax because I was I was in shock and. This helped me here. How do we? How do we handle that? I don't know. I'm worried about the transition defense of that team amongst other things. But what was the whole idea by the Gary yes? Oh, understandable, so this is my thought price. Okay. The plows are very slow. The UPTEMPO offense that does doesn't really exist in the plow. Everything is slow down. especially the way this team plays very half court oriented. The Games can be played very slow. You might see some games that are played in the high nineties, and really. Really low one hundred, so in my mind, if the Lakers can't get a big body on the floor, obviously a body arrivals a Lebron James. You need to have a Marquee Morris out there, saying a clipper series, and now the now really avery. Bradley can't go out there and really I. Mean even he's been better avery. Bradley has been better actually even though he's not a big body at guarding bigger player just because he's a passengers able to really. Pressure the basketball. Casey really doesn't have that exact skillset so to me. I'd rather go bigger and I would like obviously if cal MMA could really slot himself into that power forward role, but this team does need scoring, so I would like to put him on the bench and I was thinking about I was thinking about Kyle Kuzma in the starting lineup, but we I just can't commit to it, we. We need the defensive help. Know Avery Bradley Markeith Morris. To me is a better option defensively to stop some wing players that this is not GonNa stop and Jared Smith to me is he's really the flame thrower of the team? He's going to be the guy he's GonNa get a lot of shots and I could really see that happening I. Really do so long as Jerry. Smith is play basketball. I don't know, but I can tell you payroll i. can tell you is i. didn't believe in Carmelo Anthony and and I believe I was not the only person who didn't think he was going to play the way he did. For, and for Carmelo Anthony to show what he was able to do there I, mean he literally? Of course, it was a terrible style that they force him to play in in Houston, but if JR Smith made basketball is really just wraps once they get him in shape, and hopefully he can get in shape quick. This could be a very good addition just offensively, and that's what this team's going to need. We just said that defensively. They are going to take a step back in and Myra. Vale is not as good of a defensive player as Dwight Howard I believe that Dwight's that season overall. Has, a has a better rating protecting the rim, but I think as a positional. Twenty two dwight gets the gets the nod there. I would love to see Jr Dwight. Howard in in Markeith doesn't need to stick to me to me. It's not it's not completely set in stone, but in my mind. I feel that this team best suited with Dwight Howard on the floor, and he doesn't need to play big minutes, but to set the tone early with your best defensive center or power forward. You want to call it to have him on the floor to me would be important. This team needs to get off to good starts, and they need to put their best line about their. I like I like that. Dwight Howard thing because I've already said that before in the past that there might want to consider dwight but I also don't disagree with the Morris Thing in terms of defensively especially in like the Clippers series, and all that that might come in handy, but. One thing I'm. Trevor I'm a little skeptical about what Jr Smith can do just because of the situation, and as well just because it's not like he's just easing his way into the season. It's like we're starting up basically in the final stretch, and then the postseason so I mean it could be some instant offense I guess, but I don't know I guess I have to see it. I just think I. Look at that and. I don't see starting Jr Smith and I don't have anything against him. I just at thirty four. He wasn't a great defensively last time he played the last. Shooting, thirty one percent from three. It was a small sample size, but I don't think if it's if you're going to give me. A delorean were going to get. I don't know pin particles right and we're GONNA WE'RE GONNA enter the quantum zone. And we're going to go back in time, and you know we can can grab Jr Smith from six years ago. Okay I remember signed me up with that, but I. Think you've got enough guys that can take over that I mean I I'm not taking Danny Green out when you need events and he hasn't been perfect this year, but he's a guy who can help on that case ep I think there's some familiarity there, so if I'm making changes that starting lineup I'm probably even though I what Caruso to get the bulk of the minutes I'm probably still putting Casey PM with the starters because we've seen that, be successful and I'm open to swapping veil and white, but I think consistency is going to be going to be important for this team and I'm getting a lot of people that are talking about. Weight. Again Dion waiters. Waited like tons of questions about him to saying if we're GONNA talk about Jr Smith flame thrower. Why don't we talk about Dion waiters? This one quantity from facebook said we've to flame throwers for throwers, waiters and Jr while we're stacked. Two dollars. To Ray Allen's on the TV. I mean come on. If trust me if we were that. If we're that confident in these two guys, they're wild cards. We just have a lot of wildcards on the team and tactically speaking Rondo could go playoff Rondo he could do it could and again another wildcard. We've got JR Smith. He might show up. It'd be an absolute flame thrower like we're saying. You might he very easily could just give us twenty eight in some random game I did see some reported that he's doing two a day workouts right now. Jr Smith to get ready to your radio, but here's my question. The news that we heard Chris was Jr Smith so right after the Avery Bradley. Thing was announced two nights ago. Right That replica was talking with Real Paul about. Jr Smith Right Club sports. Talk about him and that they were scheduled to talk again the next morning. Why is if if this is an option of JR? Smith is the way the Lakers Wanna go. Shouldn't this be done eight fights? It's possible we just haven't heard about it. But why would this not be done? That's what I'm wondering. I think that they're waiting. On the exact deadline of when Avery Bradley can commit or not and. I just in case changes his mind. Yes, because. They believe just like we do. Avery Bradley's decision is proudly sentenced stone, but what if he has a last minute change of heart I? WanNa give it ago now. Jr Smith Jerry Smith is saying look. If you guys have a roster spot for me, I'm ready to go I'm ready to play I've been doing today's, and that's probably what the meeting was Ford Look? As long as we have reassurance that you're going to be available, you're not gonNA. Sign with anybody early in this little period that we've got going on here. We're GONNA. Wait on every Bradley. He's been with us all year. And if he decides, he is officially not going to play passes deadline. Sign you at the eleventh hour and I'm sure that that's what they. That makes a lot of sense I I can understand that so people thrown out. Swaggie so nick young is actively campaigning to get this spot. He wants the he wants back in the NBA. He wants the spot. I don't ruin. Yeah, he wants it like I love Nick Young. He was A. Fun But. I am not taking him over. Even Jr Smith. I'm not taking over most of the guys that that'll be out there. I can't do it. It's too many bad memories, too. Honestly like and I I didn't dislike Swaggie but man. Some of the worst laker games I ever seen where one swaggie piece was on the team. So you know we just we don't need. We don't need the taints our current team with anything like that. At least in my opinion again. I, love like up, but. I don't feel like there's any needs that. Some people have. Wikipedia how crazy. Yeah I still say we need to do y'all. Jr Smith, swaggie whoever it is, they need to play. Dion waiters one on one. For a spot. And then they need to broadcast that live in discharge like three bucks to see it I would pay. Out. That probably but a lot of people that need Gerald Green. I've got a few comments here from Youtube. Saying Gerald Green. This'll be the Kevin Pelton from ESPN throughout their the idea of going after Gerald Green Gerald Green was the guy I wanted to one of the Lakers to draft were they picked Andrew Bynum? Has Been Around while they drafted Andrew. Bynum I was wanting them to get your grade. Look Athletic Player. He lived things up for the Houston Rockets. In some moments I wouldn't be against it. I think Jerry. Smith is already got the chemistry with Lebron all that's probably gets the nod, but I'm not against Gerald Green. use an incredible athlete, but. I just don't see him coming in over Jr. No, in the thing about Jr Smith is, he's probably the most prepared for this role because he has so much to prove the last memory have about jared Smith is literally him forgetting the score every single beam, exactly every single soul on Earth, knew the score in that situation as soon as they got the offense. Remember like great. Great Tide Lebron's on fire. You're going to throw him the ball. And he literally did the exact opposite thing want to do with the basketball. It turned into a me and he knows his basketball career right now is being defined as that Nick. Young he's not the head one blunder he's been. He's been messing and he's been a good pro. What he's been messing around. He's had. Had a very loose style, and just very loosey Goosey and not very postseason like his entire career, so the Lakers really don't have anything to work off of in terms of why this guy. If we just bring him off the street and will he be ready? We already know jair Smith should be ready Jared Smith. Literally has his entire the weight going to be remembered in thirty. Thirty years is based off of what happens after they signed him right now because he shows up and he forgets a score. Free forgets as a timeout Chris Weber's or he's just airballs, a wide open three. He knows how important this is. Tim, so you have to give you the push all your chips to the guy who has everything to lose and to me the helps Lakers. It. Yeah, that's the Chris. That's the argument. Right like that's only. Because his back was against the wall while I love it when a guy has some outside motivation outside of either getting paid or anything like that like whether it be retribution or you know. I love everything that you know Gary same because Jr Smith has every reason to be so motivated to go out here and get some redemption for himself and kind of change. You know what is legacy is going to be ultimately because again. That's a hard thing. You know what he did in the finals, man. He's never gonNA live that down, but you know he has a chance to do something if he does get acquired by the Lakers I mean, and they have success in the playoffs. Can you imagine you know what I mean? What a like! What a better way to kind of go out! You know what I mean for him absolutely I mean look you okay. So Jerry Smith becoming that doesn't mean we all think of Michael, Jordan. Right we just forget. Washington Wizards Years Right. They didn't exist the lasting memory of Michael. Jordan dislike the documentary treated those wizards. They didn't happen now. Right the last pets those wizards. Here's didn't happen. The lasting memory of Jordan. Is the Crossover Ryan Russell, the pull up and then holding the the the The shot would have thought that was his last shot. Ever. Yeah, think. Right, yeah, that's that's the right. Fade out right there. The lasting memory of JR smits like the anti-jordan, the lasting memory of. The Lebron me where Lebron is pointing can angry with them, but. To have a chance. For that. That matters yeah. They've got to trust in who is most desperate in the situation. There are no. To, slam dunk signings right now. Yeah, these these are emergency signings links never in their lives thought they were going to have avery Bradley heading into this postseason. So you're not just going to be Oh, we can just go grab this guy we go grab this guy now. Let's say if the White House doesn't play. There's going to be people saying we need to go here. We need to go there. There's no good there's no great option. You're not going to improve your team you're you're essentially going to put a band aid and who's going to be the best band aid right now is probably Jr.. Yeah and again whoever they bring in is not going to be able to do what he rarely does on the defensive end I. don't care who it is nick young Gerald Green. Whoever even if it's Jonathan Simmons that name Toronto Bunch. They're not even Bradley on the Defensive End. Can you bring in somebody who can maybe get you some buckets? Is that dion waiters is a Jair, and they already have brought Indian is the JR Smith Fine, but again you're not getting that defender, and that's why I think that a lot of is gonNA fall on nine on Caruso. Stole a few people. Jump into the chat right now. that have been asking about. Rick Comparison Darren Collison. Derek. Wouldn't that be something fired up? During Collison came back into the picture right now like Chris would. That would be like the Eleventh Hour Rescue Darren Collison coming in. I would love it. Has Anybody Seem Darren Collison? Because I- that'd be, that'd be fantastic. As Lonzo right. That's all I saw. That would be nice. It certainly would, but I don't know. We don't even know what thank. He's been doing for the last three months. I hopefully he's been at least play a little bit of basketball, but no, he hasn't been doing today's like J. or no probably not, but I would still take Halston. I lured. Yeah, for sure I agree to. Me He's he's just a more efficient player more and he's with the Lakers. Need, and I think you would see less Rondo. If you had call us and convert Jr so no tattoo so. We Tattoo it would be a jersey. We were GONNA get. Oh Oh. No, that's right if he wins finals MVP. Your. Up in that, you're up in that bet real. Anything. Yeah, no, I I I am on record I said if he is the finals MVP if he goes Andrea dollar for some some reason at all. Finals MVP TATTOO Rajon okay. Yeah, that's he's earned it then that's fair. That's fair enough so I was actually the reason why I was coming in late, I was getting to work today. I was just few hours ago. And they and as I'm getting worked out of the guys like. Why don't you have any Lakers tattoos? That's that's A. Surprise even mentioned that because the chats is GonNa kill you now for not having A. Oh Yeah. Well. I mean I I've got a guy. That's just it has be perfect like whatever again. It's gotta be perfect eventually. I think I will but I've got people still ask you about Dwight Howard, so saying. Is there any news dwight? We saw the pictures. Suggesting that Dwight is working out that to me, says he's probably playing because otherwise why he's. Why is he working out at that level so far? All the rumors have suggested that the Lakers feel pretty comfortable that he is going to play. I would say that it's likely. Dwight is going to play if he doesn't play. Just to kind of go through this if he doesn't play what the Lakers do about how how do you handle the no. His put his store broken as far as I know. So. So, if no Dwight Yorke, we've got a question from Youtube if no, Dwight, who do we sign? Who who? Options really we we hope. Incur and eight and twenty four to yeah. What about what about love? What's his name again I? Is it Larry? Like Larry. It's not it's like Larry some he was on the box and then you just like quit. Oh! Larry. What are they go? Hughes not remember. Our Chat I. I was seriously just looking at some of his stats and stuff. The other day literally is Zander's version. Yeah, so Y-. Sanders is I mean I? Don't know your. There's literally going to be no. There's no six ten six eleven guys who are even serviceable at this point for maybe. Easily some some energy, but that's probably not. Going you're going to Marcus? Cousins would be the guy. He yes apparently wasn't coming back with a tiny gangly had that story that maybe he'll come back. I wonder if. I wonder if he's just on standby right now. Like apparently they've all the other teams. He's not coming back, but then the agent Kinda refuted that he's not coming back. I wonder if they've just told everybody else. Hey, he's not coming back, but he's just unreserved like Hey Dwight says he's not playing. Then I'll step in otherwise no. Like. I would be I that that's what's happening. Yup I suppose. There's a chance that I wouldn't bet on it, but. Yeah I. Just I hope Dwight Howard plays man because it's art position. Phil know to even as boogie to do that with all the injuries at again. It's kind of crazy so everything just kind of so Everything's just kind of so crazy. It's hard to replace these guys last-second. You can't really. Replace Avery Bradley or Dwight at this point I. Don't think you can I mean I like Kenneth Farid for the energy. He brings I mean, but I still just don't think he's GonNa you know bring. Dwight Howard brought to the team so and there's just not a lot of big men out there, but I I think it's great that somebody. You guys brought up Larry Sanders. It's as. Though he was great, but he was. He was a ton of fun to watch, too. It's awesome to watch, but this use a great. Many Ana. I wasn't. He was a great to play I I. Remember Him from two K just because I remember g bb up. The play guard him in from the center position. WHO's a handful. Him from six years ago, it'd be amazing. Get again just. Quarter tunnel exactly everything they're fine. We'll go back in time. We'll come back as an old man yes. Thirties? Yeah, we'll get. We'll go get Larry Sanders will bring back the good Jr Smith Yeah now. We were literally taking calculated risks with every single one of us there, there's no. It's it's so. It's so patchy right now. If Dwight Howard. If Dwight Howard doesn't play, this is so patchworked I can't even begin to state how wildcard? This feels. I think you would see a ton of. Center. You're going to see that anyway like if you run into the Houston Rockets. You're going to see it if you to know the clippers, you're going to see it but I think you would see it even more. I think that would. Just the Lakers would be like look. It's you play center or Larry Sanders. Have it hasn't touched a basketball in threes I? Don't know if that's true. Larry Sanders hadn't touched a basketball three years. She's he's now getting twenty five minutes for us. Which one of those do you want? Eighty right like that's more than. You would probably have to play Jack Rodriguez says well. He's FM, man. Be All forty eight minutes. He wouldn't die. Would kill juvenile winded after seven minutes because he goes on hundred ten miles an hour. That's the brilliant part of jails you throw them in, and he just goes crazy for you. Know six minutes at a time. I loved you. Yeah, he means well, but he is going. One hundred percent is hard as physically can go. You think it was his last night in the NBA which is awesome, but that is not sustainable for dude to play big minutes. I mean even to play. Thirty five minutes is a lot, so it's going to be very difficult. They're going to go way small you have to. They were announced totally different than the style. They played all year. So it's GonNa be hard. Let's see we've also. We've got a ton of questions coming in. Robert Gonzales Hey can. We signed waived players who were on play-off teams. For example like a New Orleans Noel, so it depends on when they were waved. Assuming that rule still stands so and I don't know specifically with New Orleans Noel. Honestly. I didn't know that he'd been waiting. I thought he was still still sign, but regard. I would have to look it up, but. The rule typically is that anybody waived after March first is eligible for the play offs, and that's why that's always such a big deadline, and why the Lakers made sure waved boogie cousins before then but. Given the way things are right now. Who knows if that rule still exists? I don't know I. Don't know of make up. That's really what they're doing. They should start sending New York Knicks like some serviceable New York. Next to each team of like who needs a we. Take Randall the problem. Is there any? Serviceable neuter Dick's but I. Would like Randall. He's a Laker yeah. I we had a long standing resident of random. Island and I feel sad that he is all the New York Knicks where they have fifty power forwards else and. Yeah, that's that's about. Doing Pay Trevor Screw, it. Oh, yeah, Hey, look, don't get me wrong like he's. He's getting paid handsomely for that Button I. New York offer I would love to see him back. To see him back I was sad with the Lakers. Let him go in order to use that space to sign broncos especially when they let him go. Needlessly here was a restricted free agent. They could match any offer. They didn't have any other offers libertad him over a barrel. They didn't take advantage of. This facing, though with random abroad on the floor would be interesting. Oh Yeah Yeah I'm not saying he would be I'd deal Bun, but at the same time think about this, though think about a fast break with Randall and Lebron coming down the. Oh my God. Be Like A freight train man. Kill everybody right? Somebody's going to get hurt? mean. Like, it might be one of our own guys. I, don't know but that. Is what you're saying. Yeah. Let's put it that mission. Put it this way. Guys coming on run. Oh Yeah. Yeah agreed or you just talk. Back. Yeah if Dwight Howard doesn't play in Avery, Bradley. Don't play. The Lakers are going to be in trouble. The roster is very thin already, and they were very thin. It's not and they were by no means where they were really starting to find their way. Everyone was really starting to find their niche, and exactly how they can play the role, but once you start just polling multiple players out of the rolls out of nowhere. Becomes very hard for team. That's not very. D They're very deep. It's GonNa. Be Hard to adjust to make up when your best players thirty five to hard, because now Lebron is, he's going to have to expend all of his energy, and not saying he's just going to run out of gas, but you WANNA conserve as much as you can. Because he's going to need it against the clippers, and then he's going to need it again when he plays the box in if a team happens to beat the box, that team is a very hot team. They are whatever they are doing is going to be difficult to be. You're going to need a fresh Lebron. James or something close to it. All these missing pieces and moving domino's all it's doing is putting more responsibility on a thirty five year old. Lebron, James and he's an absolutely player. Possibly the best player still in today's game, but you're not trying to just throw Lebron out there. Go Guard Damian. Lillard around to go do this. Go do that because that's what he's been doing and there's a ton of miles on him, so I was hoping. Hoping that like I was saying I was thinking Avery Bradley was going to play, but we didn't know the situation with the son. Right and now more responsibility is being pushed over to Lebron. James and Anthony Davis so it's GONNA. Be Very. It's GonNa. Be Very difficult for Lebron in particular because it's. GonNa. It's GonNa way on him. Yeah, he. He's going to pick up a lot of the low to that's. Gosh I hope he can do it. Hey. We've got a question coming in here. From Youtube for for Chris. said he Chris Which WWe star is the best basketball player who would be your starting five from the wwe in a pickup game so I already had one pop into my head, but I. Want you to go. And Greece's with your. Hair who is the best player? I have no idea really We never got the chance to play much basketball and the road, but I imagine most of the wrestlers are actually pretty terrible, but you know what. Come to mind. Remind. Kevin Nash used to play thousand. That's the one that I went went to. Another one is undertaker and coincidentally I. Don't know if guys saw this. There was a little clip of undertaker from last night on doing something in the trash and Kobe. Lawson. And? Dead Texas knows Kobe. Okay so okay for starting a basketball starting five, so we'd have the have now should. Undertaker so I don't know who's playing center. WHO's playing power forward I'd imagine. Would be the center undertaker. What does that have to be a big on a big four and hopefully stretch the floor to towers line, man, yeah, exactly Twin Towers lineup, and then I would put Shelton Benjamin on there I don't know if you'd be able to enter the ball, but in his athleticism is credible I would I would just hope able to throw him some lobs. CAIN like as centers. Settled on. Yeah, what if you just want you? All big lineup came taker. Kevin Nash Somebody. Right, now he's saying I'd Johnny Coop from Youtube. Same Big Show played basketball which state? All my well, I mean yeah, but I was trying not to run a starting lineup with all some footers because then. You gotta one ball handler. Look. Who's going to handle the battle of court. GotTa be like like HPK. A or Bret Hart for somebody like that. You don't HPK's the San Antonio Spurs Fan. I imagine he at least knows how to play basketball little bit, so we'll say HPK. Running the points Shelton Benjamin at the shooting guard, Mass Kevin as undertaker and big show, so we're GONNA have three seven footers on there. Had An appearance. Guard who's mayweather he had? Run the point there you go for seven footers, so people thrown out reba Stereo. Oh I don't know. I don't know if he can play. Is All right. He says noodle know they could play to. HIS DUCK UNDER EVERYBODY IT'LL BE Feeling Isaiah Thomas out there right, would actually. Drag. He's another guy who might be able to play a little bit there you go. There's another good The rocket small forward that's. Their John Cena. People thrown out. A lot of different names all right so bottom line. The Lakers are coming back, but we don't know exactly what this Russia's GonNa look like we're hoping our. It's going to be there. It could be JR Smith, maybe surprises and they bring in somebody else. Maybe maybe Andrew Bynum comes back, so people were talking about that earlier. On our chat. He tried last. He did yeah Yup. He's there. He's been out. They posted video of him working out running up and down the floor. Dunkin and stuff like that. Yeah, it was. It was at least a year ago. I'm savvy through long. Yeah, that's great. I. Mean that'd be out now. Okay, this this winter talk by Danny Ronaldo's from facebook said. What's the word on cancelling the entire season? So There've been a lot of people have been talking about this because we know. The cases are spiking Florida as well as a few other states California being another one Arizona, being another one right. cases are spiking, and so people are saying well. Is this really going to work? Work especially with how bad Florida's looking right now, and that's where we're sending everybody well. The Raptors are on their way there I. Think it might even be there right now. They just released the dates of when each team leaving. The NBA has put all their eggs into this bubble basket, right? They believe that even with cases rising in that area there players will be protected by this bubble, and so it's going to work. I don't see them canceling it at this point. It's I. They've they've spent too much time creating this plan and doing everything possible to keep players safe responsible I. I think we're past the of no return. I, guess. Technically we're probably not. They could change their mind, but. They're to me. They're too far into the process at this point, turn back. Already hit the PUTTS too late. Yeah, I mean it's it's. It's now or never it's using. Cancel, or that's IT and they have a system. I'm thinking in place now that if somebody does, that's positive for it. It doesn't mean we need to all freaked out and go crazy about it. We had to let by the situation. You know what I mean that person has is later or gets out of the bubble whatever we approach like that because you know if there's a good chance that somebody will test positive for coronavirus about just it's very important to understand that mean. We need to cancel the season. You know they still need to push forward with this although. It would be heartbreaking if anything did happen in his words to stop. Yeah, it's interesting. They had on the PGA literally just this morning had missed. They had I believe is either day. Shambo or it was Brooks Koepka. It was one of their caddies tested positive for Kovin. Oh, so they both backed out of the tournament and PGA in most of their players really echoed the same thing. Just one or two people and they'll be back in two weeks and hours their mindset. They said we're overall doing a great job. And everyone had great things to say because you're not going to be able to create a system where literally nobody gets the virus. It's going to be very hard to maintain that rights during how many cases there still are in the United States, so they're trying to make sure that it's safe for the most part and giving themselves the most protection, but they know it's not foolproof they. They need to make sure that they're diligent with somebody who does come down to the virus, and they're going to be proactive with how they can prevent other people from getting the virus from that one person, so it's it's not going to be the end of the world. If say if they're saying okay altrusa Corona virus. The League is not going to shut down if a situation like that happens. They're preparing for the season. As if that is going to happen. And how do they manage it? So it's it's I mean they've thought this, and that's why it took so long. which is smart I mean they? They should be approaching it that way. Look not. Because you can't go into this and say okay. One Guy test positive. pull the plug. You can't do that right now. When you get all of these players, there, you have everything set up. You have to have a system in place to contain it if somebody does test positive, and that's why they're going through all this. That's why you see. Players pop up with positive tests like Nikola Yokich because they're all getting tested right now before they. They go to Orlando so they can find out now so they can isolate themselves, and then hopefully they're good in two weeks when they travel to Orlando so that they they find out, and then they can can go That's that's with the the approach. The NBA's taking now. One thing I think is interesting I'm not a doctor here all right obviously. But. Ezekiel Elliott. You guys don't was Yukio Elliott tested positive, didn't even we had it right? It was just a just got tested something near added he had no clue felt fine. All of that and tested positive, and I've been getting ready for my fantasy football drafts. All we've talked about that. And I've seen people making the argument that if you test positive now, if a player test positive now that's actually a positive sign because they'll have the antibodies and they'll will be less likely to get it again. During the season now I, don't think testing positive is really a positive. Is a good thing right? I don't think that's a good thing in general rate period. But if you assume they're going to get it at some point. It's GonNa. Work out. You'd want it to be now, yes. That's interesting. Yeah, that's definitely interesting and I actually saw something the chat that I wanted to take note of they said what about Australia because I did not Stralia in their cases just essentially. Jersey New Zealand. Okay so let's scratch Australia New Zealand. Imagine if we just call New Zealand Australia, too. Yeah, one of the two. Hey, buddies. While we send our athletes will give you guys a cut. Tabar generally play their. Better with. New Zealand either. But if God forbid if we said if we said Lebron James and the Lakers, and that triggers. Country I mean that'd be perfectly minefield. Yeah, it just seems pretty unlikely so that kind of cool. I mean we have obviously they can pay for the flights, not that big of a deal. The Labor saying New Zealand isn't going to let anybody in. There, you're GonNa let anybody and it's a on our flight. Hey! We got big game the play. Yeah, I mean look. At New Zealand did it right. We obviously did something wrong. He. Went Down, and then we're back up obviously, that didn't work out I. Don't think New Zealand is GonNa restart things all that but. You know if there was some way to do it a bubble in new, Zealand. Happening at this point, move the Oklahoma City Thunder New Zealand of. Which yes yeah Bobo do I? Think I'd be okay with that. To somebody asking Jack from Youtube say. Do you guys? They eighty would leave next season no I. Don't think so. Roy Not? He's thinking about it Omar God. I I don't I'm not worried about that the Auckland. Somebody throughout. Sweet. That'd, be awesome. It's a long way. Yeah I mean the time zone difference would be would be a problem. With the workers like really. What happens when all these workers are coming in and out, it's just going to be a disaster. When one of the better players is all this is such a great series of of George, and that's the hard part in. Is it going to be legitimate. That could be partially. Y Shack said it's not gonNA feel legitimate. Maybe he was trying to say that. In this instance of US actual season being played a postseason being played, major players are going to miss significant time, no matter what, and how likely is it? That Lebron been considering? He gets fouled by a single player on the floor. The on every play the chances of somebody on the Korda's sick. He would get sick, so that's. I would imagine that if the Lakers were playing certain teams and somebody felt sick. They would go hug Lebron. Yeah, and you'd like to say you wouldn't but but. Someone's. We have players that are insinuating that someone poisoned pizza for Michael Jordan if you think would do that, but they won't get Lebron Sake when they know. Kay's a very healthy guy. He can stand it, but we'd like to have him. Sit Out for two weeks that. It can I mean it's. It's obsolete. Game Changer. Yeah if it's Lakers vs clippers, you know rape before gave one Patrick Beverley is getting on the reporting line the snitch line and he's going to say. I just saw Lebron coughing, and he coughed all over Anthony Davis. That's yeah. That's going to happen. people that just brings me from facebook will finish up with, said Trevor. What happens game seven of the finals? Lebron ad or whoever tests positive? How does that change? How people look at a champion yet? Look, that's where people might start throwing up the firm, asterisk and things like that reality is. They would not play if Lebron Test Positive Lakers playing games. He's not playing. It doesn't matter who it is, and that would suck. It would be terrible if the outcome, the season is decided by who get sick and who doesn't, but that's reality. If somebody tests positive whether it is the league's top star or the guy at the end of the bench, they are applying. That's it might be be where we just changed history with our minds I mean you I'm sorry. Wizard stays exactly. If Lebron James in the Lakers are up. Let's just say three one in a series or two series. And then they say Lebron can play for two weeks and the Lakers a huge comeback, Lakers end of losing a six or seven game series. Everybody is going to say that was the Lakers title. They're going to count it as such in. Maybe it's fair. Maybe it's not, but there's no way that Lakers fans are GonNa see here and tell me because I won't. If the Lakers are out there, dominating imposing their will on the other team, and then all of a sudden Lebron James Anthony. Davis has to just sit on the sidelines by force. I'm going to essentially be like that title. You were never going to beat us. It would feel very much like draymond green, getting suspended and kicking whoever he kicked was Lebron get suspended for a game. Six part of that was his own choice of being role, but in this in this sense, you know you have absolutely no control over US playing you can actually be completely healthy feel completely fine, and then not be able to play for two weeks so I mean it's GonNa be. It's GonNa. Be Amazing. If that obviously amazing, it's GonNa. Be really the worst thing. We could ever see oh, yeah. We're going to probably change history in. All of us are gonNA have different ways to describe what happened. Kevin Sickness Agnes could be. You know it's almost considered almost like an injury. At this point. You know what I mean really 'cause I mean. People get injured in the playoffs I mean you don't always rub it in the teams. Other Phase I mean I guess Kevin Durant going out and the raptors winning was kind of a good example of that. You know what I mean, but. I don't think it's something to worry about it. I mean yeah. Of course. It's going to suck if anybody tests positive Lebron. Especially but You know I disliked. Assume that hopefully for the most part. This thing is going to go smooth and most of the key guys won't contract the virus and you know we'll get a legitimate playoffs. I've ever seen. Someone gets sick in effect postseason series like we ever seen this. I mean. Kobe got food poisoning against Sacramento Kings right. You got that when you've got. The Jordan flew game. Things like that I know there have been other instances where players have gotten sick, but but this is obviously a different kind of sick has gone to the point where they just never played. Because that's the interesting thing. Is You go from we saw? Tire shirts. Yeah, he felt fine. And that's what's amazing is when you see somebody of working to call like an internal. Just go away. That's pretty good I. got it okay? To Brian Brian Connor Paul Pierce got sick in his pants. Koepka the year that is true for. This story. That's the real reason why Paul. Pierce needed the wheelchair. In that game. Yeah, he, he proved fans. that. That is legit what what happened. Yeah Yup very true. Yep Head of his time. Yes, he was. All right guys. Finished with this baseball is back. Yes a huge fight huge despite their best efforts, baseball is back exactly sixty games. It's going to be hard because they're traveling there. It's not going to be isolated like basketball, and that's why it's going to be so hard. I'm not going to believe it until I. See it the NBA I mean at the very least they have this whole structure. Major League Baseball. It's literally none of that and not to say they're not prepared, but they spent so much time talking business. They didn't have time to figure out. Okay Orlando Bubble. They didn't. They probably say where he they played. Everywhere. Play everywhere, yes. They're just going to put what's happening in major league. Baseball is sort of what everyone's been asking for us. We want less game, so each game matters more same travel. They're going to still have probably very little days off. It's going to be very hectic. And while obviously the sicknesses are you have a hitter who standing one foot away from the catcher? Who's also standing six inches from the empire, the umpire literally leaning on top of the Catcher at all times, so it's very easy for a sicknesses spread on baseball field and I think it would be more difficult than like basketball. Up Against Each Other, we're football, right? That's why I was surprised when we saw say Rudy Gobert gets sick or whoever I can't remember who else. They said he was guarding right. How in the world did all these other players? I get sick I mean they're out there? Getting hacked and he's just all over. She got sick, yes. figure it'd be more. You really think just in general in all the sweating, and they're right on top of each other, so it's hard to believe that really all ten guys on the Florida and get sick, so it's they talk so much business that it's such a wild card if it's GonNa Happen, so I won't get excited until I'm much except for basketball. I feel more sense. Yeah, Basketball Basketball is in baseball made such a mess things. I'm still frustrated with them for that, so, but that doesn't mean we're not going to watch it on. I will watch it. Is Back as well I know you guys probably care about that, but I do I'm excited, MLS. Back from watching premier league soccer. Chris, I know you're not a baseball guy, but if it's on TV, will you watch it? Yeah, because we're so spoiled. Yeah, is just I like the idea of less games for baseball and giving more importance to every individual game I just want out of baseball I feel like if they were able to pick up the pace, somehow it and just do game, so it doesn't feel like I don't know I'm going to games are but I know it's well into the hundreds. You know what I mean or forty two. On a normal. It's crazy. It's just like He. You know each game i. don't even know what that matters for. You know what I mean. It takes the value out of it, so yeah, at this point I'll definitely watch it man. The reasons because we haven't had any sports, so this is something the rally behind it and it's something you know. Sports aren't too something. Entertain us. There's something to ignite our economy again, so we're all this. Yes, a rip Hamilton Masks for everybody there you go. That's all you need never know that's all you need. Alright guys. Let's let's wrap things up their final comment here. This guy won seven seven says put Patrick Beverley in the master lock. Make it happen. Make it happen all right. Thanks for joining us whether you came in from facebook from Youtube from periscope. Great questions, great comments tonight. We are going to be doing this again. We'll be back on Monday every Monday every Thursday while we're waiting for the NBA season and come back. We're getting there, folks. We're hitting that. We are almost there to the point where the NBA season will be back and we can talk about actual basketball games again. which will be a? 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Lakers Comeback Falls Short Against Celtics

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1:01:20 hr | 5 months ago

Lakers Comeback Falls Short Against Celtics

"Bleeding purple and gold from the Heart of Los Angeles is the lakersnation.com podcast with your host River Lanes. Hello Lakers Nation. Welcome into the Lakers Nation live postgame show. My name is Trevor lane from lakersnation.com. The Lakers did come up short against the Celtics but man what a comeback rally they launched the not even the package unit. It was like the third unit you had guys like Devante Kostas antetokounmpo in their leading the charge trying to get the Lakers back in the game came up just short but they did Force the Celtics to put their starting wage back in to a game that looked like it was pretty much over. So a little bit of a moral Victory there. We're going to break it all down plus take all of your questions and comments. And of course give away some lakersnation.com license plate frame. So if you're coming in from YouTube from Facebook from Periscope tells us your questions and comments joining me tonight our own government and Chris Masters, you know, I'm already seeing some comments seeing Trevor's years so fast on these he's slacking used to come on right after the game ended guys. The reason why it took us a couple of minutes to come on is because we did the watch party tonight over on the hot my cap if you missed Thursday, You missed out because you had Chris myself and Ron during the entire game Talking Lakers basketball with everybody. So make sure next time. We do one you come over and join us. It does just take a couple more minutes to to switch over to the post game show, but guys, how are you doing? you know, I It was really depressing there during our live stream for a few minutes as the Lakers were down by twenty-four twenty-five, but give credit to that third unit Devon take a cock Ben McLemore Kostas antetokounmpo tht and Ben McLemore with a five in there. No, Alfonzo mckinnie was in there for a little bit to those five-day led the charge. They were really fantastic brought it all the way back to Five Points from this game at a lot of really good moments. But yeah, this is just an example of the birth injury bug just making it so hard to win games against teams that just have more available Talent. Yeah, and I saw a lot of people in the chat, you know, when we first started this show here talking about I'm mad about that one. And I think that kind of sums it up, you know, like, you know, like Ron said it was getting to the point where I was, you know, getting kind of gloomy in our watch along but I mean the Lakers really fought especially, you know, basically like you were saying Ron Baker basically all our bed were essentially gave it to the Celtic there and went on a nice run at the end and fours Jaylen Brown course Jayson Tatum back in and I don't think any of us, you know, we've had so many guys down and then on top of it we don't have Morris tonight and it's just, you know, you can't, you know, we're probably going to lose but you know, you like to see the kind of fight we saw tonight. So, you know, I'm not mad at him. I don't think anybody else is either well and and tonight heading in the Celtics were a six-point favorite according to oddsshark in terms of where they would come out and they and they certainly covered there. They wanted the game bike game. Eight. So if you pick the Celtics in this one that I guess you came out on top of it, but the Celtics came in as the favorite we thought the Celtics would win this game and they really came out firing. I mean the big problem was Jaylen Brown through most of the of the night. I mean we finish up with 40 points. He's the guy they turned to when when things start to get close in the fourth, he came back and scored a couple of buckets and I look at this as as two things off for one. Jaylen Brown is is just a good player. But the second thing is the Lakers just didn't have anybody to put on him. I mean the the guys you would probably turns you would include Anthony Davis LeBron James Markieff Morris all of them sidelined and then you don't even have Andre Drummond to meet him at The Rim when he's driving and he took advantage of I mean credit to Jaylen brown, but I think a lot of this game was just sick of how many guys the Lakers have out injured right now. Yeah, I mean you're asking Kyle kuzma who is a good Defender. Nothing against Kyle kuzma, but he is not the on-ball defender that is needed to stop a Jaylen brown type and when you have both Jaylen Brown and Jayson Tatum who are lengthy wingshooters, you need multiple guys to throw at them and it was really it was cool. And then after him you're looking at Wesley Matthews, you're looking at kcpe you're looking at a lot of guys who just aren't big enough to handle that type of task. That reminds me of like almost if you had almost like similar to playing the Clippers and having the Guard Paul George or Kawhi Leonard with the the crew we have now, it's just you know, it's like it happen every time we've seen kcp. Try the guard one of those guys. I mean, it's usually it's not a pretty sight. So yeah, I mean, you know, they showed some fights in a leased Okay. So we've got an update here from our own Brian Ward Frank Vogel, San Marcos all dislocated his finger and is currently getting an x-ray on it and that it was just kind of gross the way they had to pop it back into place. So we were speculating during the game what had happened to him there, but that is indeed what what went down his finger was was dislocated. So the Lakers I mean look the issue has been merciless the guys they would put on Jalen Brown. They couldn't some people in the chat asking who was guarding him. Mostly Wesley Matthews by default. That wasn't like the Lakers went. Yes West Matthews. He's going to be armed. Down guy on Jaylen Brown at 64 West Matthews is going to is going to deal with what six 8 ish. Jaylen Brown. No, that's not that's not going to happen. But it was just by default. They they didn't have anybody else to turn off so they had to go to West Matthews to try to defend him and obviously that that did not go very well which isn't isn't a surprise but again the injury bug it's nonstop at this point. I even Marcus off get through a game without dislocating a finger. Yeah, and he even the players we were talking about this during our watch on even the players that were available on playing tonight were beaten down. You know, Dennis Schroder was was doubtful going down the game with some sort of foot infection. That sounds horrible. I don't even want to get into the details of that. That sounds really bad, Drummond out. But even the guys played Kyle kuzma he had this he still dealing with that sore calf that he had that kept him out of the game a few games ago Wesley Matthews has been in and out of the lineup with neck issues with Teresa has been in and out of the lineup. So like even the guys that are playing are extremely hobbled. They're not one hundred percent because they're just dealing with these nagging injuries, but you can't sit down the whole team or you have to Forfeit the game. So it's just one of those things where you're asking guys who aren't aren't there aren't ready skill-wise to be star superstar Players Club. They're not even 100% of their normal roleplay ourselves. It's really hard to win games that way. Well Frank Vogel just said that Dennis Shooters foot infection. According to our own Ryan Ward was indeed a problem with during the game tonight. And so if you have got people in the chat who are mentioning the dentist router know showed tonight. He put up eight points eight assists three free shooting in 28 minutes only played twenty eight minutes only been playing closer to 40 142 from 3. This was a problem. This was why you didn't see a bigger explosive game out of him, but wasn't necessarily that he didn't want your wasn't playing hard. It's it's that he wasn't expected to play at all and then he went out there but he's clearly not a hundred percent which I mean my goodness if you think about it right now Dennis Shooters, not a hundred percent. He's dealing with a foot affection. LeBron's out 80s out Andre Drummond's out. That's four of the Lakers five starters that are that are out or or diminished because of an injury and they Marcus all the backup starting center dislocates his finger like this is not when you got to give props the shooter for you know, just you know getting out there tonight actually if he's got what is it a foot infection. Yeah, they didn't even didn't go into it was on what it meant just a foot infection. So that sounds pretty strange to me. Yeah, and you're talking about not only are their starters out there back up starters are out Markieff Morris is out. He is the guy who who starts in place of Anthony Davis. He's out who's who starts in place of Markieff Morris? He's hobbled Alex Caruso is hot. Like all of these guys are just not themselves and they're already being asked to play a role. That's true. Way bigger than what they're capable of so it's it's just it's it's not a recipe that leads to wins. If you want to look at it this way through to look on the bright side. The Lakers are 4 or 8. I'm sorry 4 and 4 in their last eight games. When you consider everything that's that's that makes you feel much better about it. Yeah, they're six there six and eight since LeBron James of 11 down which which day it is what it is there. I don't know how you can be. You know, if you look at those eight losses there there weren't any of them. None of the eight losses. You can look at and be like the Lakers let that one slip away like they should have one that and they let it slip away. All eight of those losses are against relatively good teams with the exception of maybe the Pelicans but the Pelicans killed them. It wasn't like the Lakers were in it took away. The Pelican's killed them. Yeah. So these are these are eight losses that you can't really it couldn't really have gone another way. I think we should just be happy that they got six wins cuz of those wins, I think some of those could have gone the other way as well. I think if we really want to look on the bright side Anthony Davis on the way back that's that's the important thing here from from tonight was finding out before the game that Anthony Davis 100% cleared to practice that means he's wrapping that up. We could even see him we might not but we could even see him play in these games against the Utah Jazz would probably be on a minutes. Fiction and all that kind of stuff. I'm not anticipating seeing them out there, but it's not impossible the fact that the trifocal said it's not impossible like that is a great side because great vocal just a few days ago was still saying. Oh, he's a ways off, you know, it's not anytime soon. And now here we go a d is on the verge of returning I would expect to if we don't see them against the Jazz, which the next two games are against the Jazz. I think we will see him against the Dallas Mavericks home. Yeah now two months, right? What is it been two months? It's more than 2 months in a day. Yeah. And yeah, Frank Frank Vogel, you know, I think he goes home and he just practices saying diplomatic answers in his mirror because he was saying away away. He said that exact phrase Anthony Davis is a ways away. You said at like eight straight days and here he is a hundred percent clear. He clearly wasn't always a way he was like right about to be cleared. So you gotta respect Frank Vogel for not for being as diplomatic as humanly possible. He was hoping it would make people ask question was Yeah you. I said he was hoping it would make people ask the question less. So people would stop asking him when a d would be back which was never going to happen. People are going to ask it even if he just said the day before so it's going away. Are we there yet? Are we there yet Coach. Is he back yet? You knew that was going to happen. Come on, especially after losses. All right. Let's see. Let's get into some of your questions and comments here coming in from YouTube from Facebook for periscope. Remember? You hear me call your name. All you got to do is send me a DM on Twitter will send you a lakersnation.com license plate frame. We're going to compile Those ads out a new batch soon. Let's see here. We got a lot of them coming in. Robert Gonzales. Hey Trevor, if you ask me this game is embarrassing for the Celtics for bringing back their starters. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. That's what we were saying. We love that. Yeah, that's that's a very bad. Look for Brad Stevens and his crew that that his Benchwarmers just got absolutely smoked. I mean if I let me let me look at the stat here cuz it's it's really funny Mo Wagner. Who by the way Mo Wagner is a Celtic pretty pretty crazy. He was a -20 in about 5 minutes. What how is that possible? He was a -20 in 5 minutes. The Lakers went on a 24 to 4 run real with him on the floor and five minutes. And and that was the highlight. I mean we were talking about our watch party. I mean not really was the most exciting part was watching that last few minutes of watching all of our third dog. In guys and then watching the Celtics starters come back to you. And I mean that really gave us some momentum momentum coming into this post game show. Luckily. Yeah, Devon take a cock in Costa Cincinnati took over plus nine teens in seven minutes. I mean, it doesn't get better than that for from a third-string or perspective. That's the path to success. Just need to give Devon take a cock & Co the coupon more minutes in the Lakers will be unstoppable the keys to the offense. Hey, here's an interesting question. Justin are from YouTube said who is the most important role player come playoff time. So not LeBron not Anthony Davis what next Laker is the most important not necessarily for the regular season, but for the playoffs Schroeder yeah, I think Dennis Shooters the obvious answer here. I think you know if if the Lakers in in the modern, you know unless we're off we're playing the the Denver Nuggets or the Philadelphia 76ers and you know, you want Andre Drummond in there. He'll be really important in those series wage, but pretty common read in today's NBA Wing like three and D wings and really active point guards. So the Lakers have their wings. They have LeBron James Shaq, you know, technically Anthony Davis they have Kyle kuzma. They have all that but dentist router is going to be so vital because of the way he can defend opposing point guards, you know, if if the Lakers end up seeing Portland if they do end up seeing, uh, Utah, they are going to have to deal with Donovan Mitchell. They're going to have to deal with Chris Paul if it's the sons they're going to have to deal with Damian Lillard and wage. Dennis Schroder will be so important defensively there and then he will also be important offensively because his turnover issue is something we've discussed at length him being able to cut that back one song. Ron James is back and we're in the playoffs him being able to cut that back is going to be so massive for the success of the team offensively. It makes me think of every Bradley, you know, like we were worried about who was going to guard the opposing point guard. Once we lost Avery Bradley and yeah, you know schruder is a guy that fell ill in that position and guard the opposing point guards, which is definitely necessary. You're going to say something to let me let me hit you guys with this cuz I actually did a video earlier today with our our editor extraordinary down Stark and on the Lakers Nation you YouTube channel all about Dennis Schroder and I said Daniel what what is going on? Why is it that when we watch router play we say the offense Falls to Pieces wage is not on the floor and defensively. He looks pretty good. And then when you dig into the advanced and sure enough the offense does Fall to Pieces when Shooters not on the floor the offensive rating plummets when he's not on the floor, but you know, what is a bigger discrepancy schruder on and off defensively the defense gets way better like not close way better when Dennis router is not on the floor. Over the last fourteen games why Lebron James has been out. And I see what you guys see. I see a shooter hustling. I see sure. They're doing what he can to make plays. Why is this the case where schreuder is a net negative and net rating because the defense Falls so much when he's out there and do you have a guy like Talen Horton Tucker where the defense gets significantly better when he's in in the place of of short or what? What is going on? Why does the eye test not match up to what the stats are saying? Yeah, that that's really difficult. I it's this is why when you're when you're formulating opinions and when you're watching the games, it's important not take one thing the either the eye test or the advanced tab that's important to not take one of those things as gospel. It has to be a connection of the two because the advanced stats are telling us the dentist router is a pretty bad Defender, but we know from watching the games that is just simply not true. Even if he's not as good as he looks with the eye test. He is still a very good Defender and he's going to help the Lakers the playoffs as for why tht is so much better defensively. I I'm not really sure. I mean he is a he's a pretty good Defender, but it could be because he's not being asked to guard the same type of players cuz he's not usually in with the starters. It could be that I think that and I think that is the answer. I think it's a starter's versus bench type thing where Shooters having to play a game. A big into starters and he's averaging like thirty seven minutes a game with LeBron gone. And so you're only talking about eleven minutes at night. So even over 14 games now fifteen games, that's a small sample size. So I think it's all about choice of adding up. I also think it's a Talen Horton Tucker has arms that don't stop that. Just continue. That's what I he's like, he's rupted. He's read Richard's he's Mister Fantastic, right the arms just keep going and so that's something that that matters right when you're when you're playing defense. And so I think that he's got that Advantage where schreuder is under sized and so teams can kind of pick on him. So I think that shows up again though. The Lakers sneakers offense completely falls apart with Shooters out there. I'm not saying that you just, you know been schruder in your problems are solved. No, that's that's definitely not the case. I just think it's interesting that we see the effort shooter puts in we see him hustling but it does not necessarily translate to effective defense in terms of the advanced metrics. Th teams are art like I was thinking that same thing when you're talking about tht, it's just as arms have to be so long and so disruptive for passing lanes and even wage is depending, you know, somebody on ball, you know what I mean? I can just only imagine that you know th Jesus able to cause Havoc. Yeah. He just get a lot of it feels like he gained a lot of tipped passes and deflections. I mean, that's what having a 7-1 wingspan when you're six four. That's the benefit that that comes with it. So, we're in a more question or comment that we're going to get into the the next man up award. So let's get into into these here. You know, I'm getting a lot of comments coming in about shooter a lot of comments coming in about tht. And aniket Mohan has been saying what's going on with treze? Why is Montrezl Harrell struggling so much on defense last few games? This is something that all three of us were talking about before the game a little bit. Fatigue and during the game as well over on the hot my cap fatigue. I feel like like trays is a super high-energy player. But tonight 20 minutes eight boards three assists with 12 points again, just 20 minutes. It's almost like the Lakers had to lean on him so much when a d went out that he's getting a little worn down. At least that's that's kind of my impression what we're seeing from trans because it's that lines fine 12.8 boards 5 for 11 shooting but there's been a noticeable decline in the last week week and half or so for Montrezl Harrell. Yeah, you know what? It reminds me of it reminds me of what the whole team except for Montrezl Harrell looked like in the like two weeks before the All-Star break. Everyone just looked ghastly look like they didn't want to play they looked like they were just like I need a break and if the Lakers weren't so injured, I would seriously say hey, let's give Montrezl Harrell a week off. Just let him break the let him rest and then come back. But because the team is so battered right now. You can't afford to do that. You have to you have to throw them out there for twenty twenty-five thirty minutes a night off. And yeah, it's wearing him down. I hope that the Lakers can get healthy enough before the playoffs to give Montrezl Harrell just a couple of games to just relax, you know, maybe throw them out there for ten minutes just it's just give him a breather cuz he needs it. Because that time period before the All-Star Game, I just I haven't even thought about that in a while that we were simply we were really sputtering home. Yeah going into that All-Star break and I think yeah, I mean, it seems like that might be going on for tres. But I mean again we talked about it on the watch party. I don't think we talked about on this show yet. But you know the condition season as you know, obviously affecting a lot of players Treads probably being one of them and then when you factor in the injuries and whatnot, it's just sure it's a tough season for a lot of the players took this year in terms of injuries and just fatigue overall. I mean not just Lakers around the NBA. I really feel like it's almost like the league needs to pause for a week or two. So these guys can actually re-create a little bit because right now it's not just a quick turnaround. It's they're playing every other day. If not every day. Yeah, right. There's there is no two days in a row off and they're travelling their bodies are getting wage. Down and I think this is why we're starting to see more injuries pop up. And so it really does feel like it's just kind of a war of attrition who can get to the finish line and be a playoff team and then if you sneak out of the play and tournament you get a week off after the season ends between then and the play-offs because the play in tournament has to run. So if you can get that, I think that's going to actually be a bigger Advantage than just staying out of the play and tournament. I think that week off is going to be really important for these guys just because of how beat up everybody is and it's again, it's not even just the Lakers. It's around the NBA. We're just thought it feels like just about everybody is running on fumes at this point. Yeah, so May 16th is the final day of the regular season and I don't know if the Lakers play on 16th or 15th. But that's the last day of the regular season and then the playoffs begin on May 22nd. So that right there is that is if you can avoid the play in tournament, which runs from May eighteen to Twenty-One wage. If you can avoid that play in tournament, you will have six full days off basically a second All-Star break and let me tell you that more than Home Advantage more than anything that is what the Lakers desperately need six days off unfiltered. Nothing. Just let them rest. Let them be healthy for the playoffs. That's really all it's about. Yeah. I think we I think we're in consensus agreement on that whole situation. It's not even like trim said it's not about the possibility of losing to the teams as much it is just dead. Getting the rest at this point, you know when you see kind of what's gone down this season and and let me be clear. I'm not saying the NBA should really consider putting the league on on pause. They're not going to do that. It's not it's not happening. I'm saying if everybody worse to get healthy in order to do that. You pretty much have to pause things for a week or two and if you can get six days between the end of the season and and the start of the playoffs great that would be fantastic from the Lakers perspective in order to get that. So hopefully they can stick with at least that succeed and we will get into the standings in just a bit. But first we need to do the next-man-up word. So here we go. off All right guys, so Ron we'll start with you on this one who gets the next man up award tonight. You know, I'm torn between two Lakers here off and you know, I'm not sure if if Chris is going to go the same route as me, but I think I think I'm going to go with Talen horton-tucker F wage. Yeah, nineteen points seven rebounds seven assists a he was the main he was the go-to guy during that fourth-quarter comeback that could have been successful will have the Celtics not brought in inexplicably their three best players with a minute-and-a-half to go. Well, it's not inexplicable because the Lakers put some pressure on them. Come on, you know, I am the belief that Brad Stevens should have let his Benchwarmers play it out. That was that was their battle to lose or win and and he brought in Tatum and Jaylen Brown like a cow. Word. But yeah, I'm going to Tucker he was he was really good in that fourth quarter and he was pretty decent the rest of the game. He was a minus four on the night off overall. I was happy with his performance. I was in between him and one other player but let's see who Chris goes with I will we know that other players. I think I mean I'm going Marcus all I love what you're saying about tht, especially when you look at the points out put in the rebound and it says but I also love what I saw from Marcus all tonight 4464 from the three-point line and then 18 points on the night. What is he out for rebounds and three assists I mean, you know, this is just it was nice to see a good game out of kassala. I mean, obviously we were referring to the edge the are watch along but the unfortunate part about gazala's he does not cover a lot of ground but you know on a night like tonight when he can be a big guy that stretches the floor and wage. Step three. I mean that's a good look for the treatment and it's something that you know run and me were talking a little bit in that in art watch long as well that you know, go solid despite not being a cover a lot of ground not being quick not being very agile, you know, there are going to be specific times in the playoffs where we might want to use that stretch big. You know what I mean? So I you know, I'm just happy to see cuz all have a good night and I thought he was great big to Trevor. Who are you going with out of? All right, I guess I get to be the Swing Vote here cuz I think those are the two guys right. Those are the the titles are really really picking. Somebody can say well Ben McLemore dropped 17 points in 23 minutes. That's pretty solid. But is it big Spain Marcus all or is it Taylor horton-tucker? Aka the sticking point. I I think I'm going to lean tht and I would have gone would have gone to solid until that last spurt. I know it was garbage time. But the the the team down the stretch really kind of looked at Taylor Horton Tucker and said here going to kind of lead us and he did he did he did a pretty nice job again. I can make a very strong argument for Marcus all to their their 1A and 1B here in my mind. But I think what what ultimately was co-signing factor for me was changed. He was a -4 and plus minus and Gasol was a minus thirteen. So that made me give the nod to THD but 19.7 board 7 2 6 3 steals solid performance out of him. I've got some people that chat that are complaining about him shooting threes. I actually think you need you need him taking that even though he's not that efficient from it because once that shot starts to click and we were talking about this during the watch party. There's times where James T shoots it and he doesn't look that confident other times he shoots it and you can just tell from his body language. He's just like yeah that's going in and so if you get him shooting consistently well from behind wage. And it's probably not happening this season maybe next season maybe the season after that's a really important stage of development for his game because the Lakers believe in this guy and I think he's going to be a Laker for for quite a quite a while based on that making him the sticking point in the the kind of Library trade. Yeah, I I imagine that when this off season comes around Talen Horton Tucker is a restricted free agent. I believe the Lakers will match any offer if they don't then you should have traded for Kyle Lowry. But I I imagine they're going to match any offer the THD could possibly get well and just in terms of the mechanics of the salary cap the most he could get offered jobs essentially a mid-level exception deal. So about 9 million that would be that's the max another team can come in and offer him and that's something called the Gilbert Arenas provision or at least largely called that it's not called that in the CBA bulb. It's the Gilbert Arenas provision in order to prevent a team from losing their second round draft pick cuz they can't afford to match the the salary for it. They could come in and give them a big deal that is mid-level exception for year one and year two thousand and then spikes way up. We've seen that happen like with Jeremy Lin in the past got a deal like that, but the bottom line is the Lakers are good. It's not like somebody can come in and Max tht or anything like that they're dead. In what they can offer him and so I would expect the Lakers to hang on to him. Yeah as they should you know the otherwise why didn't we get Kyle Lowry, you know, it's very simple. I've got people in here mentioning. Mentioning k c p a lot of people are upset with him tonight and I'm seeing the nickname comeback guys the brick Brothers for k c p and West Matthews combined combined loss in both both like 23 minutes to 4:14 from the field 149 from three supposed to be probably the two best Shooters on the team 149 from 3 a.m. To 4:14 from the field. Although we do have to say k CP has been dealing with back spasms the last few games now and he was dealing with them again today to the point where the Lakers had to had to report it and say that they use available to come back but he's hurting like I would imagine if the Lakers had a full strength roster. He probably either isn't playing at all tonight, or was it playing the second half but the Lakers were just running out of players. Yeah, I mean k c p is just another one to the list. I mean the Lakers have more injured players than they do healthy ones at this point. So it's just I think but I don't like a GP were kind of was getting out of his shooting slump though. I don't know if I can say the same about West Matthews. Maybe he's had a game here there but I started to feel like I was seeing you took k c p a little more Rhythm. So I mean I I guess that explains why we're also saying this is the return of the brick Brothers cuz it combined how they how they shot tonight. But you know home, we you know, his health gets back back to par and hopefully we can just get better offensive output out of both of them, you know. Yeah, I can't say I'm trying to think I can't say that I've ever dealt with a nagging back in two thousand. I mean, I've dealt with back spasms before but never at the same time when I was playing a lot of basketball or anything, but I would have to imagine And that when you're when you're shooting a basketball any little thing that affects your balance or or anything like that can really throw off your shot because you're shot it's not I mean you guys know it's not just your elbows your wrist or whatever your whole body that you put into the shot. So if you're a guy like kcp and you're shooting a three and your back is bothering you and it's enough to where your stance is a little bit off that can very easily throw off your shot you're shooting motion. And so I wonder how much that is a factor here and I think you're right Chris. I think he was starting to come back and I'm concerned that people are going to just assume. Oh no, this is just what he's always been a we forget about some of the better games that he's had recently. I think the slip back here is more the back injury than anything else and I hope I'm right on that because the Lakers really need kcp hitting these shots come playoff time. Yeah, I mean he did a 28 points against the Heat just a couple like just a week ago or something or like a week and a half ago and then the back spasms hit and he just he hasn't looked right so that that could very well be a so according to the Lakers Nation account here on Twitter Dennis Schroder said when he was addressing his injury or is his foot infection said he sorry I lost it for just second. I just tried to give everything I have I felt like I could play I could play I just don't like to miss games. So even though he's limited he recognized. Hey other players on the team are out. I kind of need to be out there and you gotta credit him. I mean look heading into a contract here to go out there and play Hurt. Is probably not a wise decision financially, like what if he goes out there and his foot infection causes him to run a little bit differently and it leads to a serious injury this this this happens, right? You see players compensate for boundary and then it creates another one and then he's he's in trouble, you know, and so you gotta credit him for putting team first and getting out there. And it's it's crazy because if you look at who played tonight for the Lakers, they're legitimately three or four guys that you could look at and say if the roster was fully healthy, she would have sat this game out. I think Cosmo would have sat this game out if if the team was fully healthy, I think schruder would have sat this game out. I think you know name is Harold can make a case for sitting these games out if the team is fully healthy because he's just so exhausted or getting less minutes Marcus all would probably not have come back from that finger dislocation m k c p back spasms like it's just all these dudes who are who are just fighting through it because they just don't have other options. I've got Kelly boy from YouTube saying leading scorers Harrell and THD sat out the entire third quarter. I think that's just that was just the Lakers rotation. That's just the way that was I looked at was like Frank Vogel go know I really don't want to score in the third know that's just the way the Lakers rotation worked out and Malika the extruder schruder definitely deserves for going out there. I think he sees the team's shorthanded and you know, like you're saying he's not a hundred percent, but he knows it, you know, I mean next man up type of thing like we need somebody to get out and compete it's important. So but his efforts should definitely not be overlooked you sure you definitely deserves props. Definitely. I've got just in Salinas from YouTube mentioning his lakersnation.com license plate frame still waiting on that from last game man. We don't send these out like right away just so you know, I know we don't end the show and I don't I don't run and package these things up and then take him over to the to the post office and Thursday. We send out about a batch a month. And so we just we compiled and put them all together and send out a batch of the time. So just so you know, that's that's what we do that we are getting ready to send another one. So don't worry. It's it's come and it just it just takes a little time. I understand though. I have that that the license plate frame. It's really great. You know, I I would be happy to have one. Yes. I love deadlines. I've got one on on my car. I've got one on my wife's car. Yeah, it's I'd love these things. I need to get my license plate of shrimp. I don't have a life. I feel left out here. You don't have one of those. Do not have I don't have my we need to have it even bother their course. We know we got giving you one by this point, but everybody's got a Lakers nation license plates what is dead? I did not realize that you don't have one. Okay. We need to get Chris a lakersnation.com license plate frame. All right when I was just wait till I get back to LA anyway, cuz I don't have my car's back in L A. So it's all good. Okay wage. A little bit. All right. Let's see here. People saying get Chris Masters a license plate frame. Yes. We absolutely need to do that. We'll do. I've got my email from YouTube so Trevor should we be worried about a Clippers ain't no with Rondo and outscoring teams by 91 points out there with with Rondo regular-season Rondo some somehow, I think now that he's got that ugly gross disgusting Club Jersey on I'm more worried about the Lakers in their own health right now than anything the Clippers are doing at this point. Yeah, and you also have to remember that the Clippers played a game against Jokers and a game against Chris Paul and the sun's so that's essentially two playoff games for Rajon Rondo. He's not just playoff Rondo. He's National TV Rondo and wage was like five nights. We'll TV games in the last week. So he came to the Clippers at the right time. Yeah. I mean, you know, the there are a lot of good teams in the West The Clippers are one of those good teams. The Lakers just got to get healthy and I I I pick them over anyone right now. That's why I was going to say, you know, like I'm not really sure this is another thing we talked about a little early on our watch party, but I feel like you know, we have you know, we don't exactly have a winning record without LeBron and KD right now, but the team is played fairly well in some of these games you look at that Brooklyn game you look at even just some of their fights and I you know, like I know it was ugly at certain points, but you know, they did show some fight at certain points. I just feel like this team when you add you know, you get everybody back you get drumming back from the toting LeBron and KD obviously just our whole crew. I just don't I don't I don't think that I think we are still the best team in this league and I think we should still be the favorites to win the championship and and I just say that cuz you're bringing up the Clippers and I'm Not Dead. Thinking about the Clippers. I'm even thinking about the Brooklyn Nets, you know, again, they have to play defense and I don't feel like their defense is going to match up against us. Okay guys, I've got some breaking news here on oh boy. Yeah breaking news on Marc Gasol x-ray case. I'm good. Yeah x-ray came back and he has a fracture in his left pinky finger. It is a volar plate fracture in in his pinky and he is questionable to play on Saturday. Oh my gosh. Yeah, not not agree. I mean the dislocation in and of itself that's not great. But the fact that now there is actually something that fractured in their home. That's not good. I can't Murphy's Law. It's like Murphy's Law at this point with the Lakers, isn't it? Like everything that can go wrong is going wrong? Everybody's getting hurt. It's just like wow. Oh wow. Rough stretch I can say though that that Gasol according to Frank Vogel and I'm paraphrasing here said something to the effect of it's my left hand. I don't need it anyway or something after birth. So because it's not as shooting hand, I think it might be okay. I can also say this I've actually had that injury I've dealt with that engine out in the pinky, but I have found out with that injury. It's not like you're going to put a cast on it or anything like that in my experience. You get some bruising. It's definitely sore and it hurts but it's not like you're you need a cast up your hand or anything. It's not it's not like you need surgery to fix it or any of that kind of stuff. It's it's just going to hurt for a little bit. It's almost in my experience. It was almost like a really bad bruise for for a while. So yeah, I would think it's the kind of thing that would just bother him more like on the catch with the ball or if someone were to hit it. Maybe that's enough to keep him out on Saturday but dead. Like it's not good that it's brakes, but it's not the end of the world either or who's going to be our starting center. If we have both Drummond and Gasol. My name is Montrezl Harrell has to be Cuz trust won't start. They've already made that decision that he's not going to start any. Yeah, cuz remember they started him that one game and that immediately after Treads and Vogel were both like, okay now that's never happening again right now. Like that's a mess. Do you just I mean, but see I would say well just go small if Markieff Morris is back and start him, but the Jazz have Rudy gobert. Oh my gosh, can can the Kings wave Damian Jones and something we find a roster spot for him to get him back one day contract. I would one day deal. I would hope I would hope that that Gasol can play and if and even if not, I would hope that that Andre Drummond will be back. I mean he got stepped on again, but hopefully that's not a multi-game absence form. Yeah. I'm trying to look here. So for a volar a volar plate fracture, which is when Marc Gasol has six weeks. I'm reading it online and it's basically saying that it's an injury that essentially issue just stabilize it to the next finger for like for like seven days. You're fine. Yeah, but you can even you can continue playing on a like a 7-Day the point is is it still even if Gasol plays through it? It's still another nag dispatch would already know. Yeah. Yeah. This team is tired. They are they are battered. They're bruised it is it is difficult. All right guys, let's get into the the Master Lock of the night. Maybe it's the injury bug at this point. I don't know but here we go. Let's let's do the master light. I'm all right Master Lock of the night Chris the Masterpiece Masters coming to you first who is getting put in the master lock. Oh my goodness. There's a lot of ways we could go with this but it it is 1:30 a.m. In the morning for me here. So I'm going to keep it short and sweet. I thought we already alluded to this but I think tonight my master lock personally is going and I hate doing this. I I really don't like giving it to Lakeshore but it's going through the return of the brick Brothers tonight. Kcp West Matthews gold combined 149 from the three-point line cuz I didn't want to do this. I really just don't want to do it at all. But I think you guys kind of earn it. I'm curious to what you guys are going to say my honorable mention though. My honorable mention is took the Celtics bench who was jumping up and down and celebrating as they were, you know, putting a whooping on our, you know, all our bench guys essentially tonight. So yep. Would be my honorable mentions, but I'd love to hear what you guys have to say and even the chat here. They they had to celebrate now cuz they're not going to be able to in the playoffs. Yeah, Ron want users. Yeah, so I think I'm putting we I mentioned it a little bit earlier. But this is more of a personal thing. I'm putting Brad Stevens in the master Li okay for not letting his boss is not letting his mentor right through the pain. So he brought in the Lakers take a twenty five point lead and they bring it down to Five Points off with a minute-and-a-half left and Brad Stevens rushes in Jaylen Brown, Jayson Tatum and Marcus Smart, you know what your Bench Warmers lost you that game you have to you have to take your lumps. You have to accept that. I think it was a it was a low a low ball move to put his starters back in the game. You let the young ones you let the benchwarmers right? It's nice out. And if you lose that game that's on you build a better roster. That's why I like it, especially because if maybe would have given the Lakers a chance to get back in it cuz Jaylen Brown came back and scored for four quick points off. And that kind of put your game boys so so I especially like that. Yeah, come on, come on Brad Stevens. Give the Lakers a chance to come back in this thing. Although you know, he was super mad after the game that he had to put his starters. I I'm sure he's he's mad as bench know my my master lock. I don't like it. I don't like having to go this route and I didn't think he's game was terrible, especially for a player. It's busy with an injury, you know, where I'm going with this the kind of kuzma What's up with the air balls? Why is this suddenly a thing that every game, Cruise was gotta put up one or more but you're a professional basketball player shouldn't be putting up a page. There is something going on up here and maybe it's an injury that he is dealing with a calf strain, but I don't feel like that's it. I feel like there's something going on with Kyle kuzma mentally and I hope he just kind of snaps out of it soon because these are balls are essentially turnovers and they're getting not only is it a big shot but it's giving the opponent a chance to really get out and run and transition. We saw it tonight when kuzma are bald a couple of shots the song we're able to get the ball quickly and get out and go and put the Lakers into tough spots fact. I did think they got either a 3 or maybe it was a dunk try to remember. I know there was a play where the Celtics immediately scored off by air bolts. We gotta get rid of this. We've got to figure out what it is at the very least hit the rim if you're going to you're going to shoot the shot kuzma. Come on. These are balls. Just don't look good job. Although I will say at least it was a Celtic that shot an air ball from the free throw line tonight. Yeah, Tristan Thompson. I was just going to point that out but he's going to ask you. I wonder if you guys think you know, we've talked about you know, you've you've labeled kuzma the chameleon and he adapts and it changes his game. It's just I want to any of that would be maybe just who's isn't in the offensive Rhythm that he would like, you know, he's not used to have putting this many shots. Cuz I mean think about it what we've seen out of keys hasn't even been as offensive output this season as much as it's rebounding Thursday actually is depending which is kind of almost crazy to say if you would have said that at different points in his career. I don't know. Yeah, I mean he is he is still impacting the game in other ways for the most part but when his shooting is this bad and this inefficient, which it was tonight. I think he went 5-4 14.46 from 3 when it's that inefficient. It becomes a problem. Even if he is doing other things. Well you need if if he's going to be inefficient, I'd rather it be gone way less attempts, you know inefficiency on 14 shot attempts is kind of crazy. Yeah, I would like to see Christmas shoot a lot a lot better than that obviously and they are balls definitely need to stop awfully. He comes around gets a little bit better there gets back into form. A lot of people that are commenting that it could be his hair that maybe that was the problem mentioned that yeah. Going to India because only gets he does only gets go there just one opportunity right for each shot. So yeah fans who are watching this right now, somebody go through go back to the kuzma stages and put together all of his statistical performances by hair color. Oh just to see something. I just really interesting fact. That's what he's blond. It's definitely worse. It has to be right like it has to be People saying that that the die is is impacting his brain somehow and things like that. That's that's not bad. No, I don't. I don't know. I don't know if that's what it is. But somehow I'm losing his hair might be having a an impact on his play. That's funny that we always go to that though too cuz wasn't there another player on the team that we were saying maybe their corn rolls were too tight or something at one point. I'm sure that was you remember. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, there we go. Somebody mentions. Nobody caught he only gets one shot one shot. I had to I wanted to try to just slide that in there under the radar a little bit and see if anybody caught it at least some people did that one month. Well, we'll Eight Mile there right? Well, we'll Slim Shady reference. Yeah. Yeah when he does the blonde hair, he's the boss Shady Amber Rose, you know, whatever you want to call it, but it's it doesn't look great. All right, let's let's do one more question and or comment and then we'll just call it an evening here. Hey, I thought it was worth mentioning. You know, of course, this is tied to the Laker news a little bit. They made the announcement that Michael Jordan was going to be inducted Kobe right my hand open up spending a couple of minutes on yeah, like I I like that and I also don't like that and I'll tell you why did you want like it's not it's not that I don't like it because I really wanted somebody else or something like that. It's I don't like it because I know Jordans not going to be able to hold it together and it's already going to be such an emotional moment and that's going to make it that much more difficult for me to hold it together. I mean that it's going to be real tough Kobe's Hall of Fame induction. It's and Jordan. I mean the crying Jordan meme is a is a thing for a reason Jordan is known for for crying and so that's that's why but like that he can really speak about Kobe and to a degree that honestly, we didn't realize he could until the memorial service at Staples Center. Like that was when we found out like how close the relationship between Iraq and Jordan really was when Michael was up there talking and he was talking about how Kobe would call him and and all that sort of stuff people didn't didn't know that that wasn't like a publicly known thing. But again, he's dead. Acquire it's going to it's going to be like a very sad moment to and so that's that's where that's the part. I don't like. Yeah, he and and Jordan Jordan also touched on that in in the Last Dance. He also he dedicated a whole like fifteen minute segments to Kobe because those were just those two were really really close friends and I'm almost glad that they were able to keep it, you know Under Wraps because that's that's really something when you're that big a celebrity, you know, Michael Jordan Kobe Bryant are two of the most recognizable athlete figures in the history of sports. And the fact that people that famous were able to like have this closed-door friendship that people just didn't know about I think that's like a really special thing. I'm glad I'm glad they had that and I'm glad that Jordan is kind of like letting us in on it and you know telling us these stories because it's great to hear. It's always it's always amazing to hear Kobe stories. Even if it's emotional. It's just great to hear new things about Kobe. Yeah, I just I gotta say that I personally what I heard it. I just I can't really think of anybody. I rather I hear what you're saying remember about the emotion of it, but I can't think of anybody. I rather suck really induct Kobe just based on you know, if like when Michael gave his speech at the memorial service, you know, and I don't know this is kind of a bad term that use cuz it was such a somber occasion but Michael kind of really stole the show in terms of you know, telling us about the relationship but also getting us the laugh, you know, when he made reference to the crying Jordan meme that he was going to have to deal with because of the memorial and he talked about how Kobe was a pain in the ass and texting between the morning. It just it was just gave you all these different types of emotions that you know of or sad you were laughing you were like joyful and I don't know just based on what we saw there. I'm just I'm kind of happy that Kobe or Michael is going to be the guy to do it. I can't log Like I can't even think that I would rather have Magic Johnson do it or anybody of that that nature, you know, the the only other person you could argue is maybe Shaquille O'Neal it would be hard to understand you mean some titles and then she was there too though at the memorial but you know what I'm saying? I don't think Jack would bring home the seriousness to it one of the time you know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah, Jack is is you know, he has his moments but he is a relatively unserious person. So at a Hall of Fame induction of that of that caliber, yeah you definitely want and I'm sure that that Tim Duncan and Kevin Garnett who are also being inducted am I'm sure they will have their moment to speak about Kobe. I I can't imagine that Tim Duncan gives a Hall of Fame speech that Kobe Bryant's name is not a part of the two the two careers. Were so intertwined they played almost the exact length of same same time as each other. They met each other in the playoffs and in the regular season countless countless times. You cannot tell either one of their career stories about mentioning the other so I'm sure that that that'll get brought up. I think when I think about the list of people that could do it There's only one person that I would rather have do this. Jerry West I think he's certainly there but there's one person though. I would rather have do it than Jordan Jordan. I would pick over everybody else how Gasol. How would have been would have been my pick? I think I think I think the issue with that. I think the issue with that is at least so the the off the Hall of Fame released be list of presenters and all of the presenters are I believe other Hall of Famers. So okay ruled that only Hall of Fame can introduce other Hall of Famers, which has been great. Asked. I'm sure Powell will attend. I would probably have to do it off. So he's a Hall of Famer. I can I'm surprised it's really gets all at the memorial as he was there. I kind of weird right even either but to speak. Yeah, he didn't he didn't speak their I don't know. You know what the reasoning was maybe he didn't feel like he could get through a speech. I know he came back from Spain in order to be be part of any traveled even though he had he was he just had foot surgery. And so he said with Vanessa, right? It was there for Vanessa and so essentially to be back with them. Yeah exactly. But but I can say this from from being at the memorial there were of all the different presenters. Just to give you guys an idea of the gravity of the Jordan brings everyone in the crowd stood for a Vanessa Bryant for her. Speech. And everyone stood when Jordan was announced. And that's it. Those are the those are the two those were the two that the entire Stadium stood up at Staples Center when those two came up to speak their patience and there was some big names absolutely there and it was like out of there was definitely this feeling in the building of just that it was out of respect through Jordan and what he had done over his career why everybody was standing who's because when he was announced we didn't know what he was when he was going to say yet. We didn't know about his relationship with Kobe. This was all new to us, but when he was announced like it was just this this feeling of just off appreciation for his career. Yeah, and and they they did a brilliant job with that Memorial they didn't they didn't reveal who was speaking at all before hand off. They gave no insight into it and they just said enjoyed it like just watch this and enjoy this for what it is and mourn with with whoever we have chosen and it was it was really well done. All right, so I'm getting a few things that are asking some questions that are coming in late here. I think update on Marcus all volar plate fracture. So he knows have a fracture in his hand and his pinky his left hand questionable for Saturday off takes a little while to heal but kind of a pain tolerance type thing. People are asking about Anthony Davis hundred percent good to go and practice could maybe play pranks the Jazz, which the next two games are probably more likely we see them in Dallas most likely they'll kind of let him he's back into it and be on a minutes restriction. So but right around the corner, we're going to see Anthony Davis back on the floor. So yep. Fantastic, I think those are the big updates that we've got here people asking about Lamarcus Aldridge's retirement. We talked about that a little bit on the the in game show that we did the the watch party that we did over the hot like app and terrible thing terrible thing with LaMarcus Aldridge retiring glad that it was something that they were able to address though and that he was able to make that decision to to walk away and not risk his health. I think he made the right choice as brutal and gut-wrenching as that that must have been for him to walk away. Now room with the playoffs starting up in just a few weeks, but I am so glad it was something that didn't do more damage to him. Yeah. Oh just hoping that he can be one hundred percent healthy for his family. That's far more important than than any any basketball and you know what LaMarcus Aldridge had a phenomenal career. Yeah is yours in the week? Yeah, he's made money. So at least he's going to be okay as far as that. Yeah, when one of the most gifted of power forwards of the modern era of basketball. Yep. Yeah, and so he he is asked retired to do an irregular heartbeat which again that's not something that you want to mess around with. All right, everybody off. I appreciate it. A few people ask me about Andre Drummond's injury. He got his foot re stepped on in the previous game and it swelled up and so that's why he was out for this one. Hopefully, he'll be back Saturday but fingers crossed off at this point who knows it feels like everyone on the team is injured at this point to some degree. Even the guys who are playing are playing hurt. Yeah right now so definitely couldn't tell you who suits up for the Lakers on Saturday. Could not so who knows what things are going to do from here. But anyway, everybody appreciates you guys joining us. 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Lakers Dominate Warriors As LeBron Drops Triple Double

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Lakers Dominate Warriors As LeBron Drops Triple Double

"Bleeding purple and gold from the Heart of Los Angeles is the lakersnation.com podcast with your host Trevor Lane Hello everybody. Welcome into the Lakers nation.com post game show. I am traveling from lakersnation.com joining me tonight. We've got Matt Peralta also from lakersnation.com. Wow, what a win for the Lakers won 28.97 a blowout dominant performance against the Golden State Warriors and I loved the way everybody on the team just about everybody doing stepped up. What a fun night for the Lakers. We needed one like that, especially with all the negative news. We've had lately about injuries and how long and he's going to be out and Jared Dudley and Caruso's concussion and off all of these things happening. It felt good just to sit and watch the Lakers play and dominate I enjoyed this one thoroughly Matt. How are you doing today? Are you in as good of a mood as I am right now dead? Any time the Lakers get away and I'm in a great mood, especially when it's a blot when like this we've seen some sluggish Stars they had another one tonight, but they picked it up real quick right after so I'm happy that they got away, especially on the first end of a back-to-back. So, you know, I'm seeing all these all the free Trevor comments in here last show was the first show that I've that I've missed that I've had two that I've had two years had a conflict my my coaching Mentor if I had a coaching tree this guy would be at the top of it. He was retiring and so we took all of his coaches from all the years we got together and we had this big celebration for him and I just I could not miss that so very thankful to to Jeff Spiegel for for subbing in for me for our last show. No, I was not under covid-19 calls. I was not using a management like some people are saying on here, but I gotta say it was weird not doing a postgame show. So it feels good to be back but massive appreciation to I just be going round government birth. Hold it down for me while while I was out for that one. But let's let's talk about this game. This was just my goodness. I mean, what a great performance from the Lakers. I guess we can quibble over the the turnovers a little bit will certainly talk about that. But let's not bury the lede LeBron James a triple-double and I didn't feel like he really had to exert himself that much tonight. This was this was LeBron messing around and getting a triple-double and removed everybody of just how good he really is your thoughts on his performance tonight. Yeah, shout out to Ice Cube. Today Was a Good Day. That's around got a triple-double. Yeah. No, I felt like LeBron was in basically in in cruise control the whole night. I felt like I keep picked his spots pretty much took out the night kind of deferred to the rest of the guys, especially the young ones Montrezl Harrell tht kuz I just felt like he didn't have to carry the offense like he normally does especially that's a good sign right because the Lake Ozarks shorthanded without Anthony Davis Marcus saw Alex Caruso there just aren't a lot of Playmakers on the floor to see the other guys step up and kind of give LeBron the night off quote unquote was nice to see and you know, it's just get some rest we play 30 minutes tonight. So then he should be well-rested for tomorrow against the Sea Wolf. So I'm excited for that. That's unbelievable played thirty minutes 22 points 11 assists 10 boards in 30 minutes puts up a triple-double efficient. And and we consider this almost like a load management game where he kind of coasted. He didn't have to really exert himself. He really did mess around and get a triple-double + 33 usurping Alex Carruthers. His role as the plus-minus King on the Lakers plus thirty-three from him tonight, you know, I I wasn't going to get to him until later but I'm seeing so many people in our chat talk about him. And by the way guys, I am going to give birth lakersnation.com license plate frames. The new batch just got sent out today. So if you get your name called tonight just know it's probably not going to go out for a few weeks cuz that's how I do it. I compile them every few weeks. Then we took out a whole new batch rather than after every show having to run down to the post office. So just be aware. If you get your name called tonight might not go out for a few weeks. But again, if you hear me call your name tonight. All you got to do is shoot me a DM either send me send it to me at Trevor underscore Lane will send you a lakersnation.com license plate frame mom, but forever. All right, so let's talk about him Damian Jones. I'm trying to see a specific car from somebody here about him. I've been seeing a bunch as the questions and comments have flown past. It's really let's see. We've got a lot of people off. Talking about him Jaime Barron. We'll go with that one from YouTube said Jones did well, he did things that we need him to yeah. So Damian Jones tonight 8.1 block for boards to up to from line. Three of three shooting did have some just physically impressive plays in garbage time had a a tip dog. That was just absolutely incredible and then also a full shot. But what was your overall take on what he did tonight? And do you see him surviving after this second 10-day contract remember he can't have another one after this. It's it's do-or-die here. Yeah, shout out to Damian Jones Avenger game right played with the Warriors his first three years. So probably felt good for him to get a win against his former team. But I love what I saw tonight play 21 minutes did what exactly Frank Vogel wanted him to do. I wrote an article in lakersnation.com. Just the other day saying that vocal wanted to see em be you know, that paint protector that shot-blocker that logged thread all the things that we discussed previously. He's been doing just about as well as you could hope for so I'm happy for him to see him play. So well as for your question if he survives a second day 10:00 the second 10-day contract, it's still hard for me to get a gauge on that just because I'm still so many names that could be, you know getting bought out especially Andre Drummond. I know that's a popular name of Marcus Aldridge the big the big man options around the Bayou Market might dictate whether or not Jones gets along but I I think from what we've seen so far, I think he's earned it. At least I definitely think he deserves a longer look if the Lakers can somehow, you know, sign up for the rest of the season I'd be okay with that, but that really just might depend on who becomes available the next couple days. Yeah, that's a great point. We don't know exactly what the Bayou Market is going to look like the Lakers like a lot of teams right now are just waiting to see okay is LaMarcus Aldridge going to get bought out is Andre Drummond going to get bought out are these guys going to wind up if she traded somewhere and then they're not on the market and then you stick with with the Damian Jones really depends on who is out there that's going to be a big determining Factor. But Damian Jones also has to take advantage of the opportunity in front of him here. I mean like who could imagine that you're cut by the Phoenix Suns and then a few weeks later you're starting for the Lakers because Montrezl Harrell's Better Off the Bench and Marcus all is under the NBA's health and safety protocols. This is an incredible opportunity in front of him. Not many guys on 10-day contracts get this kind of opportunity. And so it was nice to see I thought he took advantage of it tonight, you know, he was a dominant or anything like that, but that's not what you're expecting. You just want some Rim protection a little bit of rebounding. I would like to see him improve a bit there and then finish log and that's all you really need him to do when I think he can do that, but there may be some better names out there on the bike. Market or perhaps somebody they can Target in a trade like a son Whiteside. Right now I I completely agree with that. Damian Jones. He's kind of he's it's a little uphill right now the opportunity is there of course because a d and Marcus all are out, but once they come back it's it's hard to Envision how we stays on the Ross unless he just plays lights out these next few games. But from what we've seen so far like I mentioned earlier he's playing he's doing exactly what the coaching staff wants them to do seems to be you know, acclimating pretty well looks good tonight wage. So I think you know, there's some potential there for sure. Yeah. Absolutely. Absolutely. I think that he is a I mean certainly with the athleticism has plenty of potential. All right, let's talk a little bit about kcp. And this is the first time I think in a few weeks that I've been really excited to talk about case even most nights. It's been okay. We're going to talk about kcp the slump continues. What do we do here? How do we how do we talk people off the ledge and get people to not give up on him. Stay the course with him. In fact, I've got Ronald. Old Main Senior from Facebook's at k c p finally showed up. Yeah, I mean look 548 shooting 3444 boards. What is this one steal one block fourteen points. I need to go back and really look at the film but it felt like there was a difference in his release tonight. It felt in games past the past few weeks. I felt like kcp was shooting not to miss wage. There's a difference between shooting not to miss and shooting to make the shot shooting. You know, you're going to make the shot and tonight kcp looked confident taken that shot. He looked we were hoping at the end of that page game that steal that he got would give him like that kind of little little boost that little energy boost a little confidence boost and it feels like it did carry into this game because he looked like the guy that we saw those first few weeks of the season and that's really exciting. Yeah. No, this wasn't really good kcpt game. I thought he had a good game on both ends. Not just shooting the ball, but defensively to seem to get after it does what he does on that. And so I was really happy to see him break out of his little slump that he's you know that we've been talking about for so long now and I think a really good thing to point out is that when Casey's hitting shots the Lakers are very hard to defend right? Because if you've got the fenders at need to respect his jump shot have to close out on them a little harder or take an extra step toward him opens up so much for the rest of the team that you know offensively they just look so much better when someone can actually hit shots. We've been talking about so long about how the Lakers need more three-point shooting and that they needed to start knocking some of these looks down and tasty pizza night three or four from Beyond The Arc like that will get it done. He doesn't need to do anything else other than hit shots fill the lane hard and transition play good defense and when he does that the Lakers are pretty much the contenders that we thought they would be heading into the season. Yeah, that's right. You know, we've talked about the gravity of Damian Jones in terms of rolling to the rim and sucking Defenders into the paint kcpt has that gravity bong. The perimeter which is how we typically think of gravity. He's got the ability to pull Defenders out but not when he's not shooting. Well not when he's shooting at the 20% and things like that. Then you're not going to get guys closing out on you are not going to get guys scrambling like their lives depend on it and leaving the paint and then opening up things for other players the kcp. We saw tonight will do that. Now. I do want to caution everybody though one game does not mean you're out of this slump. I want to see some sustained success room. Not that he's going to shoot, you know, whatever 344 from 3 every single night. You can't expect him to shoot 75% from 3 from here on out. But if he can just continue to be a threat and continue to look aggressive and how he shooting and knocked down a high percentage. I'm talking 40-plus percent and I think that's within reason. I think he can do that if he can continue to to shoot down that piece then the Lakers offense becomes that much more difficult to guard like you mentioned that and I would be thrilled because kcp man he needs it. He needs to break out of this slump that he's been in and I hope that tonight was a big step in that direction dead. Yeah, I think the All-Star break. K c p some good. You know, he's a little younger so we don't really consider what the what the grind up a regular season does to a player like him, but I think he just needed a break needed a mental reset. I thought tonight was a good example of what he looks like when you're shooting confidently like you mentioned not hesitating shooting to make the shot not shooting not to miss really important distinction that you made and that's exactly what you look like tonight. There's they're comfortable stepping into thoughts thoughts off the catch. I was really happy to see those links go down cuz he needed it and like you said to one game doesn't necessarily mean he's out of the slump but it is a good start. It's encouraging I think 40% is a pretty decent is a phone number for him to hit. It's only two 5 from the night from the from Beyond The Arc if he and he can definitely do that. So I'm hopeful, you know, the the Lakers have a softer schedule these next couple of weeks, or maybe this is a good way to build back up that Rhythm that he's talking about so much when it comes to being a shooter, so yeah. Yeah, absolutely and that would be a major major development for the Lakers if you can get case of feedback shooting again, unfortunately wage. Matthew's knots and he 1145. Sorry, we gotta get to it. You know for a while. There are chat had a little name going for k c p and Wes Matthews. They were calling them the brick break instead of the Splash Brothers because they were missing so many shots fandom can be brutal sometimes but Wes Matthews not shooting his way out of the slump did shoot did it the first one and I thought okay here here we go, West Village. Let's do this name 145 from 3 on the night three points one block 24 minutes nothing else. How is this how did he play 24 minutes and hath no stats aside from a blocked shot a couple of fouls and three points on 1 and 5 shooting like in 24 minutes you think of all would just bounce your way at some point you would accidentally get a rebound. That's that's almost froze up to put up that many zeros across the board West Matthews. Yeah, it's hard man. Because West was one of my favorite signings this past off-season. I thought oh, here's a guy that can fill the Danny Greene roll at a lot at a lot less money down for full disclosure. I was also a Danny Green believer throughout the entire season last season even through the playoffs during his lungs. I was still defending the guy. I feel like I'm doing the same thing now with with Matt with Wes Matthews just because I feel like the Lakers are going to need him come playoff time because again three India wings are so invaluable in today's game that if you don't have any you're going to be in a lot of trouble. I need West to pick them up if you happen to be watching this man. I still believe in you. I'm still Tweeting in support of you man. Like trust me. I I know you're better than this. It's just it's been such a struggle. I know fans are getting real antsy life seen so many so many tweets posts about let's trade West Matthews. That's get this guy instead. I understand the frustration. I get it. I'm some nights. I it's it's really hard for me to watch dog. But again, the West is a veteran. This guy's a professional let's not forget. He was starting for the Milwaukee Bucks about the best record last season. It's it's just really hard for me to do to imagine that this dog is just so bad at from one year to the next. So maybe it's just the role. Maybe it's a conditioning thing. Maybe he's just in his head. I don't know but I still I still have some faith in him. Obviously. I don't think may be playing in nearly as many minutes, but I think that you know, when it comes to players like Wes, they just gotta shoot themselves out of it 145 isn't going to get it done. Fortunately. The Lakers had a blowout so it didn't matter too much but in close game is making one extra three or making, you know, just an impact somewhere is going to be could change a game. So I think why still has that in him, it's been real rough has one of the few truthers. I'm still I'm I'm you know, it's it's fading a little bit, but I'm still there. I'm still holding on. Hold on Hope. Come on boys Matthews. Yeah. I mean at some point if this just continues on wage Except that this is just who he is, right, but why we talked about we have to look at a player decide is this has our opinion of that player changed has something changed in what we believe about who that player is. So for example, a c p when he's in this horrible slump do we believe that he's simply a 25% three-point shooter now, that's just what he is. That's what he can perform and that's what we're now projecting him to do from here on out. The answer was always no home. And so at some point you believe there's going to be regression to the mean witch a bunch of people were tweeted that at me tonight because I use that so much but you have to believe that he was going to come back up to his average to somewhere in the high Thursday from 3, and that eventually things would even out over time West Matthews the longer this goes on the more we start to question. Maybe this is simply who he is. Now thirty-four years old. Is there a drop off his role switching to becoming a bench player? I don't know. I'm still hoping that he can find a way out of this but it is certainly worrisome at this point. I do want to mention the Lakers, you know, we talk all the time about three big areas three key areas the Lakers to win a game and that is their three-point percentage their turnovers and they're offensive boards. And the three-point percentage is obviously been a concern lately but most of the time if you're good in two of those areas, you can make up for being bad in one of those at least with this Lakers team. That's what we've noticed over the course of the Season tonight. They were bad in turnovers, but they shot 41% from 3 and they grabbed seven offensive boards, which is decent in a dominant or anything, but they said they shot so well from 3 that it didn't matter as much so the 19 turnovers was something that obviously stood out something that was not good. But the Warriors are a pretty solid defensive team and when you look at how the Lakers won this game it wage with their ability to shoot the ball and it's been a while since we've seen that because most of the time the last few weeks if the Lakers got a win it's because they were dominant on the offensive boards or because they were not turning the ball over as month. Not because they were hitting shots. So it was nice to see them win tonight. Not just because they wanted a blowout but because they won what they're shooting accuracy as well. I thought that was pretty critical again 41% from 3 to 63% from the field on the night. That's that's impressive stuff. Yeah, we've been talking a little bit about how the Lakers in the first half. The season were struggling a little bit and and we've been and most of the complaints were about the defensive end right about the rim protection about all the points in the paint that they were saved up but it's not really a secret that it was really the offense. I was holding the team back. They just were not shooting the ball. Well, a lot of that was from the three-point shooting. So essentially what happens is when you're not knocking down shots from Beyond The Arc teams are more than happy to pack the pain and make it way more difficult to score in there. And that's where the Lakers generate most of their offenses within the painted area. So when the Lakers shoot like this, like I mentioned at the beginning they're just so hard to defend cuz what are you going to do with LeBron James barreling down the lane with with you know, no shot blockers in there, you know, not many not many bodies in there. So you're just generating good looks all night long and that's kind of what we saw tonight song 63% 41 percent from 3, that will get it done. Basically every night nineteen turnovers however will not but like you said if they're playing well and shooting the ball well enough you can kind of overcome that We don't want to nitpick too much after Thirty one-point win, but there are areas that the Lakers can clean up. Imagine if they had cut those turnovers down by just a few this could we could be talking to forty forty-five Point blowout? Yeah. That's that's just how good the Lakers could be. That's true. That's true. You absolutely can they could have gotten there had they hung onto the ball a little bit more. Okay, let's get into our first segment of the night life and let's go with we're going with the next man up award. And because I know we're naturally just going to get to this guy. It's very clear who it is tonight a lot of nights. There's like, you know, two or three four guys we can kind of debate. It's pretty clear who it is on this one, but let's get to it. Here we go the next month. All right, Matt, the next man up award every postgame show it goes to a non LeBron on Anthony Davis player. So an OnStar that we thought really step up tonight man. I think it's pretty clear who it is, but why don't you just reveal it to everybody? Yeah, I guess we're we're in lock step here. Cuz I I've got to go off on some McKinney. It's another event game for him also, so it has right that's right off now but the very clear answer is Montrezl Harrell man, like what a game? What can we even say about? Yeah, what can we even say about this guy at this point twenty five minutes eleven to fourteen from the field through and five rebounds and three steals Joe's good measure that's this guy is just he's a load. He he comes in Off the Bench instant energy instant offense. You know, I I feel like we can say this almost every game but this is just really good at scoring around the basket especially around that dunk respond as soon as the defense collapses and gets to the ball-handler. There's an easy dumb, but he just he's just so good at getting into space and getting open right? Like it amazes me every game that he he's just seems to get a donk or gets to the line nearly every time he gets the ball down there. We can see why he wants six man of the year last year. I think he should be in the running. I think Jordan Clarkson's going to get it but wage. Tries it definitely his way into that top three votes. So yeah, this was this was a this was just your quintessential Montrezl Harrell game just scores around the rim and plays with energy Gets a Job necessarily technical foul for no reason. I do want to say for anyone that follows me on Twitter. I just want to say I do have a I have been tweeting this out a few times throughout the season. I do have a drinking game where every time trials get citizen face we take we drink and I just feel so bad cuz I feel like I've been drinking almost every day. Yeah, you really are that's that's been a running we talked about here on this show all the time that every single game Montrezl Harrell gets elbow to the face. It's just I don't know why but we're going to get to James Wise Wise Men and a little bit but Montrezl Harrell, here's the thing right? Like I knew he was good when he was a Clipper but watching him every single night. I've gained so much more respect for his game for the intricacies intricacies of it. And yeah, there's parts of it that don't make sense like Montrezl Harrell is six seven, maybe six eight on a good day. He should not be as efficient around the basket as he is. This dude should not be shooting like seventy percent around the rim when he's giving up that much height and that much like then she got shot blockers constantly trying to bother his shot. There's no way he should be this efficient and yet he is somehow he finds a way to just consistently score around the basket. It's impressive. I don't know that we've seen anything quite like this in terms of just overcoming this size disadvantage that he's at night in and night out and still just consistently finishing the ball around the wrong. It's it's really impressive and he gives the Lakers a major boost on nightly basis. Yeah, I think there's a couple of things we should bring up. Well, first of all trades is coming off the bench and he's not necessarily playing against starters all the time. So she's just eating against a bench units so that could be part of it. I mean, I don't want to take anything away from stress. Let me just off by saying that like, I I'm not taking anything away from the guy. I think you could start you could come off the bench. He's proven that he can do both but I think you know with the caveat that he does come in against weaker bench units that don't Farm playing they're necessarily a place best big. So that's one to I do want to say to that against the Warriors. I mean, they are a good defensive team. But we've seen at the past game also tries just happens to play really well against them. He's just a mismatch nightmare for them. So that could mean a thing to match. It's just a it could be a match up being but I do want to say one thing also. Yeah, I don't think we're even optimizing Treads to be super honest not hitting a little bit bigger role. Is that what you're thinking get a pick-and-roll? I think he's shown that you know, he's more than happy to play his role, which is basically just sit in the dunker lob spot and just Feast right next to the basket, but Frank Vogel talks about it. I think a month ago now. Months ago where they said we got a we got involved in the more pick-and-rolls and while we have seen a little bit of an uptick particularly with him and Dennis shooter. I think that we can still be using we could spam that play honestly if you ran a trap shooter or Lebron pick-and-roll nearly every time down. I'm pretty sure you're either going to get a nice floater of roll to the rim or an outside shop for someone. I can almost guarantee. They can do that almost every possession down. It's just dead maybe maybe the Lakers maybe vocals saving that for the playoffs. Maybe they just want to put that on film quite yet. Maybe they're waiting for a d to come back. I don't know but I know the coaching staff's too smart to not be utilizing that to log it with the Clippers last year with him and Lou Williams, right that was talked about basically the entire year with them. There's no reason to believe that tries couldn't do that with the Lakers. So while trust is like you saying, like I said is so efficient you just productive and each night. I think he could be even more productive and I think that just speaks to how good he is as a player. It's it's really incredible the way that he's able to score these buckets and you're right he's dead. Really being used as the role man and pick-and-roll as much or at least when he does roll. The Lakers are giving him the ball very often and that's been kind of a surprise this year because we did think coming in. Okay Dennis Schroder and trash those two guys. They're going to be running the pick-and-roll just like Lou Williams did with them and it just hasn't really happen not to the degree that we thought it would anyway, so We'll see. We'll see if it's something that gets Unleashed come playoff time. But I think the nice thing though to flip this to a positive is that Montrezl Harrell has shown more versatility to his game this season than he did last month with the Clippers and that's because the Lakers have trusted him to do more things to allow him to expand his game a little bit say hey Tres will trust you. Go ahead take the 15 foot jumper. We're not going to bench you if you shoot that shot. We're going to encourage you to take it off. And so that's been the Silver Lining but you're right the bread and butter for him as a Clipper was being the role man in the pick-and-roll and we're not seeing that as much with the Lakers. So maybe that's something that we'll see. We'll see more of moving forward. All right, let's talk a little bit about tht. We gotta talk about him we got about what did she fact? I've got Ricky from m s g h t and and Harold have a connection. I think that's a good observation. There is a little something going on there between tht and Treads THD when he gets into the paint very often that is his name. Target to have but very often you see him looking for that little drop pass off to Montrezl Harrell. He is looking for him trying to find him and tonight. I thought this was the best THC game. We've had took a while maybe it's because I did a video yesterday is Talen horton-tucker the most tradeable Laker THD. Maybe she saw that I'm sure he watches all of the Lakers Nation videos. He probably saw that it went. Oh, no, I got to make sure he'll Lakers see how valuable I am here Talen horton-tucker tonight seven of ten shooting four or five the line for boards 10 assists kind of double double with this one steal 18 points. This was the tht and yes, some of this was garbage time. This was very similar to the tht that everybody was going nuts about in the preseason. The guy who was flashing so many different abilities finishing from these weird angles around the basket and then that soft touch on his passes moved that lob to Kyle kuzma from the the past from Trey's to age. THD to the lab. Cuz most beautiful beautiful stuff. This guy can be so good. And I'm okay with them being not consistent because he's twenty but it's nights like this that he reminds you of what could be in store for him in his future. Yeah, when it comes to players like tht who are so young they're going to be so many ups and downs that are the season that it's going to be frustrating to watch but he'll have nights like tonight. We're again like you said he shows you what he can be and to me that is a secondary playmaker ball-handler something that can get into the paint almost at will collapse defense is score. So yeah, I thought this was probably my favorite THD game this season to be quite honest with you just because I thought he did a little bit of everything defensively. I thought he was pretty solid. I do want to say that, you know, maybe he was playing a little looser Freer because you know was Matthew wasn't playing while Caruso was out because of the concussion he was going to get extended minutes anyway, but he made the most out of it. Some of it did come in garbage time. But even you know, when the warriors were still kind of in the game, I thought he was playing all look like he was making smarter decisions, but the boss needs a more under control cuz when it comes to THD, he can get kind of out of control, especially when he gets the ball and he's not sure what he should do in those moments. You can tell he's just going to Thursday. I'm going to just drive to the rim and hope something happens. But tonight you don't really see too much of that. So I'm happy that there was some progress there. He kind of reminds me of dentists a little bit when he gets into the paint. So when it comes to passing cuz his his his life is always I'm going to get to the rack and score. But tonight I was happy to see him try to create for others, especially like what you mentioned. Don't pass those dump off passes to Montrezl Harrell some Kasa ku's sprayed some passes out to age limit. I thought he was he did really well in that department tonight. So seeing the growth is so rewarding and I think come playoff time tht will have some sort of role. I think he's just too good not to play at this point. So yeah, this is a good job blocking for him. I hope this continues. Yeah, I hope so too. I do worry a little bit come playoff time because he does have these nights where he makes a lot of mistakes and in the playoffs those can be particularly deadly when you make mistakes, like he does a lot of times, you know, he isn't sure what to see you then. He just barrels into a Defender because he's so determined to get to the basket picks up an offensive foul makes the wrong read defensively. We've seen him get benched a few times for that. But again nights like this remind you of just how much talent he's dead. MVC high from YouTube says tht is too young to be that guy right now. Absolutely. Absolutely. He is too young to be that guy right now. There's no question there right twenty years old. It's going to take time for them developed to develop but that being said when you see nights like this from Talen horton-tucker, does this dissuade you from considering him in a trade-off? Like what is he going to be that guy in the future where you're going to be kicking yourselves three years from now if you trade him right now because he's going to be really tearing up the league or is this hey, you know what, he can do some things well, but he's probably never going to be all that refined. Maybe the Lakers can see what they can get for him because I guarantee you other teams when they call the Lakers they're asking about Talen Horton Tucker. I'm on the side of the fence, but I would not move him unless it's like hey getting this guy. We're almost guaranteed win a championship this year. Otherwise, I I'm I'm on the side of you. Hang onto THD and you develop them because I think there's Been here. Oh, no one hundred percent. You hold onto th unless you're telling me I'm trading tht for like a Stephen Curry Yiannis or whatever Superstar even though that's not at all. But yeah, yeah, that's not legal at all. So I know this out of your Capital guys, don't worry, you can't do that. And I don't think they would agree with that kind of trade. But yeah, unless I'm getting that kind of caliber player. I am holding onto th T cuz you have to remember the Lakers do not have dropped assets going forward for the foreseeable future. They all went out in the Anthony Davis trade. They've got a few second round picks. They can trade their 2027 first-rounder if they wanted to but there's not a lot of faith in the quiver to reload the team post LeBron. They're going to be building around a d that's for sure. They might have pieces includes Montana schruder to go along with that. But after that there is not a lot of young talent in the pipeline. So keeping th Nee is super important. He's twenty years old. This is a second season. He's already flashing the skill set that you'd want out of a guard like him. He's just so unique 6 for two hundred thirty pounds. This guy's dead. Honestly the limit I think for tht I don't know if you'll ever get to All-Star level, but if you told me he'd be the Lakers starting guard in the next three or four or five years. I I definitely believe it. Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. I think I'll start I think off or is possible. I'm not saying that's what he's going to become but you can see the elements of his game that could get him there if he continues to develop at at this current rate Brandon Hidalgo from YouTube said, what are the chances of choice trading for LaMarcus Aldridge with the whole Popovich Lakers history? I think we could really use him. Thank you, man. You're great. Well, thank you from from both of us. We appreciate the kind words there but Brandon what are the chances of trading for Aldrich zero chance of trading for him are zero because and it's not the Popovich Lakers thing and don't get me wrong Popovich is not a fan of the Lakers you go back in the lake history and you see he was protesting the Powell Gasol trade. He didn't like that. He was telling what Dell Demps not to send Anthony Davis to the Lakers when the Lakers were trying to trade for him at the trade deadline a couple of seasons change. So look Popovich versus the Lakers that's a real thing. But the Lakers in terms of trading for him. They don't really have the salaries to go out. You're not going to part with k c p and tries. I mean that's pretty much what needs to put together and I was going to say, yeah, you're not doing that. You're not trading kcp and trays for LaMarcus Aldridge for 35 year old LaMarcus Aldridge. You're not doing that. Now that doesn't mean they can't get him if he gets bought out if there's a lot of teams around the NBA that's a thirty-five-year-old LaMarcus Aldridge. I don't want to trade for him and the Spurs can't find a deal and he gets in in the Spurs wind up buying him out cuz we know he's not going to play for the Spurs anymore and he's on the market then maybe I don't think he's the perfect fit but that's the way he would get there. And in that case, Greg Popovich would not be a factor at all because you would have no say in where LaMarcus Aldridge goes. So I guess kind of a long rambling answer to a fairly simple question. But Matt, do you agree with with the way I kind of broke that down? Goes I was right there. I'd agree with you for the most part. I put maybe the chances a little higher maybe like point 1.2% maybe rather than zero, but I think that you know case of a trade for Aldrich. Yeah, we can't we can't rule anything we can roll that completely out. So but no I think you hit it right on the head LaMarcus Aldridge. I believe is making twenty four million. The Lakers are about one point six million or so underneath the hard cap so long. I mean someone can check my math in the chat, but the Lakers would need to send out close to twenty-three million or so and salary to get under that so make sure that they're under that to make a trade legal. So yeah, kcp trash probably a council McKinney Salvage you'd have to send out in a trade for Marcus Aldridge. Now, if you're comfortable doing that then that makes you one of very few people because I would not do that ever. Not only are you depleting the wrong if it's depth and talent but now you're trading for a guy that might not even play extend it became minutes for you. So trade very close to zero of damn near impossible honestly, but if we're talking by out, I've been harping on it for a while now, but if you wants to come you can come I just there there are cleaner fits for the Lakers to chase after come by out a season. I think they could divorce in the market knowledge. But I also think they can do better at this point. I'm a little ambivalent cuz I've talked myself into the three-point shooting cuz I think that is a factor that we should be considering when it comes to him. Yeah, and I think you know what this stretch wage. Mark and AD when other teams have bigger players to throw at us, I think you know having another big body could be useful. Maybe it's Damian Jones, but we're not sure if he's in Iraq return on the 10th on the on the package deal for the rest of the season after your second ten days up so I don't know if he wants to come I'm not going to say no, but I also think that again we've got so many options and the Lakers are going to be a prime buyout destination for sure. Yeah, so they should have their pick of the litter. So let me let me hit you with this. So let's say Andre Drummond either gets traded right so it doesn't get bought out or he gets bought out and he goes somewhere else. So he's not an option sir. LaMarcus Aldridge has bought out wants to be a Laker and the options are on the table are LaMarcus Aldridge for nothing. You can bring them in on just a veteran-minimum deal or who skill-set probably is the perfect Faith or you can do a trade with the Sacramento Kings and it's a minor contract. Let's say it's a it's West Matthew shorts McKinney or it's it's one of those guys, right? We're not touching tht your Caruso anybody like that off and two second-rounders. Which path do you take LaMarcus Aldridge not having to give up any assets or giving up a minor contract and 2 seconds for Whiteside who might not be as good as the Mark is off. Right now but his skill-set fits, where would you go? You know, if you ask me to vacuum I'd take Whiteside, but if we're throwing it dropped compensation, I think I got a lean Aldridge a little bit just because again the Lakers don't have ammo going forward to really replenish the roster. There may be looking at undrafted free agents. They're going to be looking at guys. Yeah, there's gonna be like an undrafted free agents or late second-round picks up. They can probably be by then as well as our own pix. So if we're if we're throwing job compensation in there if that's what it takes to Whiteside deal done. I honestly don't think it's going to take that much if we're going to throw in an asset. It might be one second round here. That's like way out maybe if that's the case then I'd probably take Whiteside but if it's two second-rounders of McKinney type for Whiteside, then I'm probably leaning Aldridge in that case. I just feel like the kings are probably going to be in a position where they look at the Lakers and they say, okay, we know you need this kind of player. We know you need a blocker a rim protector to go win a championship and we're going to try to get as much out of you as we can because the Kings I mean, let's face the Kings don't like the Lakers right the Kings don't don't write the social media team. Yeah, exactly. Yep. Their whole organization is not like it's we've talked about this before but it's weird right? It's what you've got the Kings the Blazers the sun's the Spurs the Nuggets all these teams in the west. They all seem Lakers as their biggest deadliest rival like like if they could hate anybody it's the Lakers. That's the team that but it's not reciprocated Lakers fans don't care about the Blazers game is no animosity there. There's Lakers fans are upset with the Phoenix Suns right Lakers fans focus on the Clippers cuz there are annoying in L A and the Celtics and that's it. That's it should be. Yeah, and that's how it should be but you've got these teams where if you're trying to trade with the Sacramento Kings there there's going to be that little animosity that's going to be in there. Like, hey, we can't sell this to our fan base unless we make sure we get some real ass out of Lakers. So that's why I had two second-rounders coming from The Kinks. I did have some comments here. Somebody mentioned. I believe it was thinking he wickets. They flew it. They fly by faster guys, but from YouTube Asking about Frank Vogel said can we get a little bit love for Frank Vogel for his game playing tonight against the Warriors and you know, this is not the first time the Lakers have seen the Warriors and we've noticed this about frank Baum once he's seen a team once sometimes twice. He figures out little adjustments to make and a lot of times they they will allow the Lakers to prevent. We sawed a bunch in the playoffs last season. I can't specifically think of any major adjustments the Lakers made tonight. I'll have to go back and re-watch the game but Frank Vogel got a lot of flack in the last few weeks for his coaching for the Lakers being on this three and seven slide and and all these things. So I do think it's important that we mentioned that Frank vogel's game plan worked out very very well tonight to the point where LeBron James only had to play 30 minutes and I also say credit to Frank Vogel because when it was garbage time, he went back to his quote unquote starter Damian Jones The Dude who's on a 10-day contract trying to prove himself and Frank Vogel is saying look we're going to if we have the opportunity. We're going to give you every channel. To prove yourself if you don't make it it's not going to be because we didn't do our very very best to get you minutes out there. So I thought that was a good move by him as well. Yeah. No, that's a great Point. Damian Jones is on literally a time crunch because he only has a few more days left on the second 10-day. So he needs to make the most out of those opportunities so credits of vocal for making sure that he gets minutes so that the coaching staff and himself could get an extended look at him. But in terms of the game plan, I I honestly think that it wasn't much different from the last time the Lakers saw the Warriors and I'll say it right now the easy way to get the worries as currently constructed because the giant caveat is at quit Thompson's not on the roster or not playing is that the Lakers are very very content with letting literally anyone except Steph Curry shoe. If you go back and watch the game, there are several open looks from 3 that the Lakers are happy to give up to Draymond Green Kelly oubre Kent Bazemore should go down the roster. The Lakers were not concerned with closing out to those guys at all. So it really mucked up the warrior offense. I thought they forced them into a lot of turnovers. I think that's just a half. That's just wrong. No, the Lakers being great defensively. They they perked up in the past few games I think and they look rejuvenated out of the brakes. So I think that was also you know a factor there. But yeah, I think when it comes to the Warriors and the Lakers, I think just right now it's a lot easier for Bank mobile to say. Okay, that's going to hit us three days. He's going to get looks there's nothing we can do about it. But what we're going to do is limit literally everyone else on the team. If you know Kelly oubre decides to pop off for 30 years through a games wants to you know, poor in 25. So be it we're just not going to let Steph beat us. And so I thought that was you know, basically the key to the game tonight. Yeah, exactly. You know Steph Curry did his thing put up seven points, but the Lakers were able to shut down a lot of other players and I like the how aggressive they were out there in terms of their their defense. They were definitely flying around a little bit more than we saw them during that stretch before the All-Star break. So he took the brake did indeed do its job and rejuvenate them, but we do need to get to the Master Lock of the night. So let's get to that right now. Yep, All right. So every night we pick one player. Sometimes it's a Laker. Sometimes it's an opponent with sometimes. It's even Kevin abstract thing where we pick something like effort that we think deserves to be put in Chris the Masterpiece Masters. She was one of our hosts are on the show put in his finishing hold in the wrestling ring. So we usually get some pretty fun ones here. So Matt is your debut Master Lock, who are you putting in the master lock from tonight's game against the Warriors? Shoutout Chris Masters. I'm honored to be doing this tonight. You know, we've said it we've said turnovers a lot tonight. So I feel like you know, that's kind of a given. I'm actually going to go a different direction and I'm going to say unnecessary technical fouls. Montrezl Harrell has been called for a couple now the past few nights where I was just like come on man. Like let the guy express some emotion basketball is not a emotional game you can you let the players vent a little bit on the technical he got tonight. He just disagreed with the call. I thought he should have been called for an and one which honestly he should be getting a lot more throughout the year, but just hasn't gotten the call. So I understand him a frustrated. All he did was really shake his arm at the rep and then leave and walk away and I thought that didn't deserve a text. So yeah Christmas is if you're watching this, okay. So so Master locking the technical foul so dead in a way, that's really Master locking the officials, right? That's that's where we go with that one. I like it. I like it. Somebody ouch we have he's next up on my list. Kyle kuzma. Somebody is talking about your luck and Kyle kuzma's airball. I'm not I'm I'm not going to go there. I'm not we're going to pretend that didn't happen not going to go there. No. Yeah. That's yeah did not deny somebody. Open a door, you know, whatever but the way I'm going with this for my masculine tonight. I am going to James the misnomer Wiseman cuz clearly can't be that wise if he is throwing elbows like this not get off James White. The only reason why he didn't get kicked out of that game tonight for the elbow I believe is to Alfonzo mckinnie at the end of the game was because it was the end of the game. I was garbage time didn't want to go review it. They wanted to go home. Otherwise that should have definitely been reviewed Heathrow. I mean, it wasn't like the one against res You could argue. Okay, it was it was it was inadvertent off kind of did the extra little shrug afterwards it looked like maybe through it again, but didn't make contact them that one Whatever fine right? Just just let that one go. He threw that elbow at McKinney and I was I was not happy to see that I was especially not happy that the referees didn't take another look at it. So look James Wiseman young player. Rookie a lot of talent quit throwing those elbows man dead. deserving of a Master Lock tonight Oh somebody thrown in Wiseman learned that from Draymond. We have seen a lot of times this season where Draymond is kind of taken him under his wing. Is that a dream on green thing? I don't know something better. I don't know. Yeah, I don't know I think wiseman's just young. I think we've we've seen him three times now and I think every time you play the Lakers there's just something that seems to frustrate them. I don't I don't watch too many warriors in that Middle East. So I don't know if this is a night tonight thing but particularly against the Lakers. He just seems to get frustrated. The first time we saw him. He was frustrated with foul trouble the second time playing against trust the third night, which was tonight same thing. I think trust that God best of them in the pain a couple of times and then defensively was able to get in there also, so I think that might have just been frustration building up. But yeah, I know it's it's unnecessary that's uncalled for I I I may or may not have poke something Warriors Twitter tonight when I tweeted out that the Warriors would look a lot more fun at the edges draw a little better this past draft reason. Is that a little lamelo ball game? I mean, I'm not confirming or denying that you could check the fee. But yeah, I think the words would be a little more fun. If they you know, they did a little better there. But you know, that's neither here nor there is anything so but yeah, no James Wiseman, I think will be good. I'm still pretty high on him. He was my third overall. I think pick in this past draft if I had to do my own mock draft if I remember correctly. I think I had it with Anthony cordesman. So I I think yeah, I think he's a top three talent for sure. I mean he's so young big men take forever to develop in the NBA sometimes but yeah, I think he's young. He's learning obviously probably frustrated when the team's losing that badly also. So yeah, I don't know but yeah Christmas is you can all right came up. I like it. I like it. So I've got a combination I would see Miss on Twitter. Maybe you may know the source of this. I didn't have time to track down where this rumor is coming from. I want to get to Kyle kuzma just a minute, but I don't want to miss this one here Alex odeh from YouTube said, how do you feel about Pistons only wanted a second router for Wayne Ellington cement. Maybe you can did you did see it? What was this? What was the last four that rumor? Where is that? Was that a legit one, or was that like somebody just throwing it out there? I believe that was rumored. I see if I can honestly don't remember the source by do I do remember seeing that report? Yeah, I remember seeing that report for sure that the the Pistons were looking for just a second rounder for Wayne Ellington what I think about it, I thought that's about right for his value you I think as a three-point shooter, I mean, you know imagine any teams giving up first-rounders for you know, bit players or role players. So second round here may especially again, he's been really productive. We did a lakersnation.com Round Table and there was just posted I believe yesterday or today and that I said Wayne Ellington would be at the top of my list. So if the Lakers if he can get bought out by the Pistons and at this point, I don't think he does I think the Pistons will settle for some sort of draft asset like a second-rounder and that report if that's the cost for Wayne Ellington, I'd be okay with that. He doesn't make too much money. I don't know his salary cap number off the top of my head but I believe the Lakers could actually get to that pretty easily. So if that's what it cost to get one Ellington, and I'm all for it, especially if what's Matthews decides to keep something like he has been and it's shout out again. So I am I'm still trying to find they've been some people are saying it was in Shawn's report. So it's possible. I just missed it and the child support, but if I'm not real that it's a second-rounder for Wayne Ellington. Deal, I mean, yes, right like like Wayne Ellington is is a good dude. I'm not as high on him. As you are. I'm not putting about the top of my of my wishlist. I've got, you know, certainly I'd have thought. Well, I guess you're not going to trade for it. But Andre Drummond would be above him for me Trevor Ariza. If you can get him on the buyout Market, I think we're gonna put above him but there's you know, I think you can make a really strong argument for a Wayne Ellington particularly if if you feel that this is it for Wes Matthews. This is just who he is then I don't think you can use West Matthews on the playoffs and if that's the case you need to turn to someone needs to be that bench shooter for you. I don't I don't think you can just banish Wei West Matthews to the bench and not have anybody fill that role and I think Wayne a link in Ellington can do it off dude former Laker good shooter. If the cost is a second-rounder sign me up. I'm I'm all here for that. Yeah, let me let me just clarify real quick. Okay. 3.6 player list. If I yeah, yeah, if effectively asking me Wayne Ellington or Andre Drummond, I'm taking Drummond, but if if we're just strictly talking about a drop-off Point shooting needs and Wayne Ellington is at the top. But yeah, like you said good point if what's Matthews does not revert back to Old West Matthews. The Lakers are a little short on shooting come playoff time. I am having an Executor like Wayne Ellington on the bench to come in and knock down a couple of shots for you and at least space the offense a little bit would be very beneficial. So yeah, if it's a second-rounder sure like I'm a Lakers will happily trade those for useful players, especially on for title can absolutely like absolutely. Yeah, I'd be totally fine with that deal Robert Gonzales said, hey Trevor, I know Dudley's contract is a veteran-minimum. But since he's in Georgia and the Lakers apply for the disabled player exception. So if you guys saw it earlier today, I had dr. Edwin poorest on who who hops on whenever there's big injuries and helps us break down exactly what the injury means whether or not the issue. Can return what kind of activity level we can expect from them, etc. Etc. Etc. It does a great job breaking things down actually does his interviews with us from his car because he literally leaves his office and found out into his car so he can talk to us for for 15 minutes and then he goes back in to work helping people just very very cool that he takes time out of his day to talk sports injuries with with us. But yeah, absolutely, but he he did mention that looked deadly MCL tear depending on the grade of the tear. It's possible that they could say no surgery and maybe he could make a return the season but it's it's fairly doubtful. Like if it is a I believe he called it a Grade Three tear then he said that's it. You're probably looking at surgery and probably it for Jared Dudley button. Do you get a disabled player exception? Well, there is a deadline and I'll admit I don't know if top my head when that deadline is to apply for the disabled player exception. It's it's either coming up soon or it's past it had to be dead. Time soon. I'd have to go back in and research that so sorry guys. I don't know that off the top of my head, but I do know that it's the Lakers are hard kept. So because of that they don't have very much money to go spam very much room under the hard cap and they already have two open roster spots. So if you were going to get a disabled player exception for Dudley, if you can still do that, first of all, he's on a veteran-minimum so you're not going to get much money and then you're already hard capped. So and because you already have two open roster spots really with Damian Jones on a 10-day you you don't have enough room under that hard cap to really go do anything with that long so long answer I guess but the bottom line is no it would not make any sense for the Lakers to try nor. Can they get a disabled player exception for Jared Dudley? Yeah, it's it's not a lot of money if they even do get it still going to be looking at buyout guys and they're be getting on and they'll be on prorated contracts out the S of the year. So they'll fit under the hard cap, which is why we've been saying that the direction the Lakers should go in. I have seen some fun rumors on Twitter about you know, maybe the Lakers trade Jared Dudley salary could have to wave and then they bring it back as a side line coach. Hey, man. I honestly I'm not to start any conspiracy theories, but I'm pretty sure that's been the wink wink deal since Jared of these come to the Lakers. I wouldn't be surprised if that's the direction. He goes in he seems to love Los Angeles he want his title them is a nice place to live He's from San Diego, so it's still be close to home. So I personally think you know, if if that were to somehow happy and I'm not saying that that's I'm not reporting anything. I hadn't source that for me. You have to seeing some people talking about it wouldn't be a bad idea. But yeah, I want deadly to come back healthy. It'd be nice to see him return for the end of the season if possible, but even if he's dead, He's not going to be playing much and just would be nice to have him healthy like I mentioned but his impact of course is going to be off the floor in the locker room. So I don't think the Lakers are going to miss too much still still have them for that kind of role. But yeah, but but but the answer the question yeah epe wouldn't really do too much for the Lakers. It's it's going to be buyout guys on prorated contracts and somebody threw it Master Lock the hard cap. Okay. So how's the weather really saying is Master Lock Montrezl Harrell, really you're going to Master Lock Montrezl Harrell on the night that he just had tonight because it was Montrezl Harrell getting the mid-level exception that triggered the hard cap the way it works. Okay. Yes. It was also West Matthews getting the bi-annual exception which triggered the hard cap, but we're just going to pretend to ignore ignore that part. That is a valued off. He'll man. All right. We need to talk. It's been too long here. We we've gone through this whole show and we've barely talked Kyle kuzma who I thought had another really nice performance and you know what I've taken wage. Are bolo side I have taken to calling Kyle kuzma the chameleon because if it's whatever role of the Lakers need whether it's hey Couz, but tonight we need you to drop 25 cool. I'm going to do that kruseman tonight. We need you to behave based on the boards. All right, I'm going to do that too. We need you to defend the other team's best Wing player cool. I can do that for you tonight. It was the passing Kyle kuzma four assists on the night showing everybody is packing skills, but then he also threw in 305 from three seven eleven shooting 17 points two steals last season. Kyle kuzma was the roller coaster this season, it's Taylor home last season. Kyle kuzma was you know, one good game heat up to bad games and other good game, right? He was all over the place. It was maddening. Everybody was was constantly talking about Kyle kuzma trades now off his name rarely pops up in trade mentions here in the chat because he's having such a phenomenal season and I love it. I love seeing this kind of successful kind of kuzma. He's having just a great year and yep. It was just another really solid really good performance in in what's been his best season. Yeah, I'm going to just say this right now. I thought when Kyle signed his extension I thought oh that is a fair deal for both sides. And now I'm going to just stay here tonight that that is definitely a one-sided deal in favor of the Lakers because man ku's has just been playing so well, he looks like a player that is completely comfortable within his role looks settled in looks like he knows what he needs to do what he needs like where he needs to be at all times. This is just the maturation of a player that you know coming in was billed as an empty calories score took a lot of unnecessary shots didn't try something on defense, but he's just completely flipped the script and I feel like I think at this point, it's almost it's it's just the normal for Coos now. It's not really so much like oh, look what cruise did tonight? It's really just like, oh, yeah, there's cougars again and the chameleon thing fits perfectly cuz last game the Pacers 24 points really sparked that fourth-quarter comeback tonight 17 points really great efficient shooting but really just was everywhere defensively offensive. They moving the ball dishing dimes out to trust that took him to the for the 4th beautiful basketball. So yeah, I I've got nothing really that's to say the cruise except that he just needs to keep it up and and the lake and this is the cruise that we're going to get compost sneak up compost season or play-offs and it's now the Lakers are just they have to be considered favorite. He's absolutely tremendous and I loved it. Like you said he came in as long as you phrased it and empty calories score a guy who if he scored the ball. It was a good game. If he didn't it was a bad game. I mean we look at why West Matthews did right 145 shooting and then zeros across the board except for a block. That was that's an extreme was kind of how people saw Kyle kuzma was like, okay he can give you points but he's not going to give you anything else. He's going to be a negative on the defensive end of the floor. He's not going to help you much on the boards cuz he's and it's not all that physical damage not going to pass the ball and get a bunch of assist or anything like that. That's not in his wheelhouse and people tend to focus on that stuff. But you know, what? Here's the thing about Kyle kuzma As much criticism as he took he heard it he heard all that stuff everything that I have heard about him and his work ethic. He takes that stuff to heart and he's extremely critical of himself. He understands. Hey, yeah. My defense is not good. It needs to get better. I need to be a better rebounder. And that's why this season you have the self-awareness to look around and go. Wow this Lakers team, but they they don't need my scoring. I don't need to score twenty thousand a night. In fact, I can squirrel live in a night if I hit the boards hard and I defend really well cuz the Lakers need another Wing Defender we're going to win games and he just morphed and and you know, he chameleon his way into that role and I think it's just so impressive that now you've got a guy who can contribute to a game in a meaningful way without scoring and this is the same guy who could not do that. Just last season last season of Kyle kuzma wasn't scoring he was not contributing to basketball games in a meaningful way. His development has been so long. So great to see and I'm happy for him because this guy's take I mean, look he shut down his Twitter account, but shut it down because he was being put into so many trade rumors and so many people were speculating that he was going to be dealt. So very cool this Redemption form. Yeah night and day from cruise from last season to this season last season you could just tell he was trying to figure out where do I fit in what do I do? I've got to play next to a D & LeBron. I'm not going to be touching the ball a lot. I start off season. He was just vacillating between okay. I'm going to just jack up shots because these are the only looks I'm going to get or okay. I'm just going to be overly passive because I think that's what they want me to do. And honestly this season completely different player just looks so much more comfortable out there no matter what he's being asked to do. He just does it. Yeah for good reason. He shouldn't be in trade rumors because right now he's arguably the Lakers the person and Thursday is going to be a major major asset come playoff time. All right, let's finish up with this Dennis Schroder, you know, the turnovers are still in Issue four turnovers tonight boss. He's an optimistic passer throws past that aren't there sometimes but did have seven assists six points to a five shooting wasn't extend out night for him, but I just want to say this about Dennis Schroder what is going on with This extension like I am pretty low-key. I'm pretty even-keeled. I'm stressing a little bit. We're now hit like a month since Shooters been eligible for an extension. All the talk was positive back from him about staying a Laker long-term. All the signs pointed towards the Lakers wanted to keep him. Where's the deal here? And if it's not going to happen do the Lakers want to let him walk in free agency this next summer. I think this the closer we get to the trade deadline and no extension is done the more I start to wonder what's really going on. And again, I'm not saying that the Lakers are going to trade sure all indications are that they really liked him but it's just with each passing day. It becomes a little bit weirder that this is not done yet and it's just something to keep an eye on I think. Yeah, no, so okay. We have an interesting take on this but if anyone follows me on Twitter you I tweet out every so often give me all the dentists because I love shooter. I think he fits what the Lakers need Shaq is just a past defensively point of point-of-attack Defender gets into the paint at will. Yes, the passes are very concerning some nights but still can break down a defense and scored when he needs to so yes, before I before I say anything else I want Dennis shooter back. I don't care. Honestly what the number is whatever his Max's I don't know what it is at the top of my head. I think similar close to eighty six million or you're running right? Yeah. That's right. Yeah, that's the max number. That's that works out to a little less than twenty two million a year, which honestly I think for a player of his caliber and what he brings to the Lakers and the fact that the Lakers wouldn't be able to replace that and free agency. I think it's worth it for them. But I will say this I'm actually not worried and the reason why is because yes, the Lakers were able to offer an extension I believe last month, but I think birth The front office and the team probably Rob is thinking let's see what he can do in the playoffs first before committing that much money in that many years to him because I'm essentially can still get done they can get done in the off-season. So I know it makes some fans and see like, oh my God, we're not going to we're not going to send them now even though he's played so well, like what's going on? Like maybe they're just so far in negotiations, but you have to remember to the front office has to look out for themselves. Also, they don't want to just commit money to a guy they're not sure who's going to perform when it matters. So I'm thinking that that's all they what they're waiting for it to see. Okay. This guy can hang at the playoffs cuz if you saw if you watch them play with Oklahoma City last season, he took a pretty decent first round, but he did seem to feed her out toward the end of that series might have been tired might have just been the bubble. We don't really know what we can distribute those struggles to but I think that you know again, it might be a little imprudent to see, you know, what he can do again. Don't get me wrong. I want shoot her back regardless, but I think you know Optimistically speaking. Let's say shooter struggles a little bit in the playoffs. Like ideally the Lakers won the title, right but maybe shooter doesn't play Super. Well, maybe you get them at a cheaper number maybe instead of twenty two million. We're looking at maybe nineteen twenty, you know and with the Lakers up against the salary cap, and then also the luxury tax bill something that we have to consider. Also if every million dollars counts because it's very punitive at that point one that passed a luxury tax threshold. So if if you can shave off a couple of dollars and that frees up a move here there because you waited to extend shooter. I think that's probably worth it. But again, like if if I woke up tomorrow like the shack lowest weeks out Lakers and Dennis shooter agreed to four years eighty six million dollars, and I'm all for it. I'm going to be doing backflips, but I'm not going to stress about it too much until the day comes where another team signs them. So that's when when you say every million dollars counts. It just it just reminds me like how how much the NBA can be like Fantasyland. Sometimes like like a million dollars by NBA standard sounds off. Minuscule money, right like every single dollar accounts. That's basically the equivalent right but Dennis Schroder, you know, I don't disagree but I think that what would give me a little bit nervous is okay, then he hits free agency and you've got all of these teams, right? And maybe he does maybe he talked to Rob blinking blinking as this deal with him just said, hey, let's see how you do in the playoffs and we'll go from there. We want you you want to stay here. Let's settle on a dollar amount in the off-season. Okay, maybe they have a verbal understanding there, but you let him get the free agency and you've got all these teams that were saving up for Giannis for Paul George for Thursday for whoever else right number of different guys. Rudy. Gobert that were scheduled to be on the market this next offseason 20-21. A lot of people are saving money for that. Now that money is still there and those guys aren't there to spend money. They're going to spend it on somebody and so I think you run the risk then of somebody coming along and offering him a lot of money and potentially pulling him away. And if you're the Lakers you're already over the cap, you can't log Replace them. It's not like shooter leaving you suddenly. Oh, we just freed up 16 million in cap space. Who can we go sign with us now not how it works. They would not be able to replace him. And so that's where it gets a little bit dicey home. So I personally would feel better. Just seeing an extension get done now, but I don't know if I'd go to eighty six million. That's it. Just that feels like a lot. But if you're the Lakers and you decide that he's the piece he wants forward remember twenty-seven years old fits with Anthony Davis's timeline. Maybe they do go there. But again, I I do hope that something gets done because I think he is a good fit. He's not without his flaws. Let's face it if he if he was a top top top tier point guard like a lot of people would would like to see him be people who you know, we complain about the turnovers and things like that if he didn't do those things if he was this top-tier point guard, you're not getting it for Danny Green and the 28th pick you wouldn't be a Laker right now. So understand that he is going to have some flaws but I still think he is a nice fit long-term with the Lakers and I would like to see him under contract with him and Ed. Hopefully for my sanity it happens sooner rather than later. Yeah. No, I agree. Like I If a contract gets done sooner, I'm all for it. Because like I said, I want him around long-term too. I I if I had to guess right now, I think the happy medium is maybe Max Max dollar amount but maybe not pack years. So maybe two or three year range. I know the Lakers are building around eight. He's timeline. He's signed that five-year Max. So, you know if Dennis shooter sticks around for you know, the next two or three years. I think it'd be a pretty solid deal for him. Especially if again puts out a Max dollar amount, but yeah, I mean, I'm I'm not super stressed out about it. I'm I mean, I might be a little worried especially like what you said that scenario where you get the free agency team just decides to splurge and screw with the Lakers like I that's definitely plausible. But as of right now until we get there, I'm going to be a little optimistic on Dennis's extension. He doesn't seem to be grumbling about it too much. He thought he'd be happy to extend as long as it's fair. I think the fair part is probably where the negotiations are at a standstill right now because we're still in the middle of the regular season in his first season, so and we haven't gone to the playoffs yet dog. I mean, I understand both sides. This is kind of the game that agents in front office is playwright where they're going to obviously advocate for their own side. So I'm going to caution patience though. I don't think a deal needs to get done necessarily e r o if it does I'm happy, but if it doesn't I can, you know, I can sweat it out a little bit. I'm not no hug me off the ledge a little bit there with Dennis Schroder. All right guys, appreciate I appreciate all the questions of a comments coming in from YouTube from Facebook from Periscope always great when we get to come on here and talk about a Lakers win, and we get to do it back to back tomorrow night the Lakers take on the Wolves. Hopefully they can make it three wins in a row to start the second half of the NBA season Matt. Thank you so much for helping on here. Always fun to talk basketball with you. Yeah, I know. It's just fine. 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Lakers Beat Nuggets On Kyle Kuzma Game Winner

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Lakers Beat Nuggets On Kyle Kuzma Game Winner

"Believing purple and gold from the heart of Los Angeles. This is the Lakers nation dot com podcast with Euros Trevor Lane. WanNa Finish Lakers nation. Welcome into the Lakers nation post game. Show my name's Trevor Lane for Lakers nation DOT COM Kyle Kuzma in the game wintered Lebron James and Anthony. Davis are just decoys for a Kyle Kuzma game-winner go figure. But that's what we just saw happen is the Lakers defeated the Denver Nuggets a much needed. Win. Super excited about that. What we're going to talk all about it. We're going to be breaking it down with us of those you joining us from periscope from Youtube from facebook welcome in. We're going to be taking your questions and your comments throughout the show. Don't forget if you are checking this out on the podcast version listening on Apple PODCASTS spotify whatever wherever you listen to podcasts, make sure you rate review an subscribe to the show. 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All you gotTa do is use that Promo Code Nation Twenty guys. Check that out again manscaping dot com that Promo Codes Nation Twenty joining me tonight we've got Chris the masterpiece masters Chris finally finally after three games in a row losing the Lakers get the One Yeah and it was definitely not a perfect game at all I mean you know the funny thing is is we've complained so much about. The offense and now tonight, the offenses come around pretty well, I mean, you know Danny Green came alive tonight cruises been a the model of consistency since we've got into the Butler since they answer the bubble and. It's just been. You know it was definitely but it was definitely much better offensively tonight but then defensively, there were a Lotta lapses are know we're GonNa get all that a lot of you know I don't know what the nuggets ended up shooting some ridiculous percentage but. You. Know I. I'm quite frankly I'm very happy because I'm glad we picked up the Winston I as I was telling you I think you know these last shoe before the playoffs are imported just for the sake of momentum and You know if nothing else since we've got into the bubble now you could see Lebron ad kind of ramping up a little bit tonight and again, coups has just been just off if nothing else has come out of this and and he's we're going to have like a legit third option like accuses doing exactly what we wanted them to do and it's beautiful to see. It really is just that game winner tonight man I mean how about that? Yeah. Absolutely. Look. Let's talk. In fact, we're going to start without crews but because I think we definitely have to give them what we just saw. I've got some negative here in the chat that saying all the Lakers played terrible. I'm seeing the Lakers barely beat the nuggets bench. Yeah. There's plenty to complain about and certainly we'll get into some of the deficiencies it was far from being a perfect game. But for right now, for this moment, let's just celebrate a win. It's been a frustrating last three games. The Lakers. have been playing great. Let's celebrate a win focus on. The positives for the moment and again, let's start with Kyle Kuzina on the night. Kyle Kuzma. He gets the start. He Starts Casey piece of technically cow Kuzma was the starting to guard for the Lakers or maybe the starting point guard I guess depending on how you want to read things. If you want to see Danny Green as the two in that setup, whatever cow cruise was started, he played thirty three minutes shot eleven for. Sixteen from the field three of five from three including the game winner six boards three assists two steals twenty five points and he was the number three score right behind Lebron James and Anthony Davis. This is the Kyle Kuzma. We've been hoping to see for the last few years. This is the guy this is it. We're seeing right now last game Kyle Kuzma didn't shoot. So well, this game he bounces back and he. Shoots very well, and that's been the big thing. Right is how many games we've seen cowboys were shoot really well, and then he drops down for three or four games before he bounces back up again instead so far in the bubble, it's been three or four good games in a row and then one not so great one that is much much better consistency and I am so so happy to see how Kuzina plan this way. Now I mean I again, just echo what you just said. This is exactly what we wanted. We kept talking about. Coups being the x factor what's WHO's GonNa do you know we know what we're going to? We always say we know what we're going to get from Lebron ad, but will be able to step into that a kind of third role and you know and like I don't know I'm just I'm very happy to see that like know it hasn't been so great but again these. Guys since they've been in the bubble after they beat the clippers, they've had the one spot secure the main thing really even before anything else has been just keeping guys healthy. So you know I think as you know all of us as Laker fans, we just turned the freak out when we see you know it's been some tunnel. So I mean, we don't do that. All right we. Return the freak out. I. Mean I even started freaking out it wasn't the okay. See game but I guess it was maybe the Ron instead because that was so hard to watch but I mean, you know really these guys. I think you know Lebron be I mean, if feels like they're just they're starting to kind of come around the ramp up and. You know it's you know they've been pacing themselves. I'm assuming you know what I mean and I I think you know again, the defense wasn't as great tonight but I mean, I, think that's what a lot of this is about is it's about giving your offense back to where was and your defense back to where it was You know. In comparison to like before we went on break. Yeah. Look and I don't think and we'll get into the defense. The defense was not good at all. There's a lot of issues there that we're gonNA talk about but but as far as the offense goes. Better. It looked like not even not just the shooting percentage which obviously that's a big part of it, and that's what's GonNa really stick out us they shot Laker. Shot fifty four percent from the field forty, eight percent from three. This is that three point shooting explosion that we've been dying because they were dead last in a offense rating in the bubble dead last in field goal percentage dead last in three point percentage it. Was Ugly, ugly, ugly ugly, and tonight we saw the offense start to get back on track a little bit. They went to Anthony Davis early, COW KUZINA was sprinkled in Lebron. James was aggressive in getting his looks. We even saw any knock a couple of threes Danny Green actually threes Danny Green Four for ten shooting, which you go forty percent from the field. That's not great. No. But when you're three of five from deep you'll. Take that I will take that performance out of Danny Green on the offensive end of the floor eleven points towards one assists for him there but but I don't want to stray too far from crews. My still have some things to go over there. How about the fact that Frank Vogel was using Kyle Kuzma as defensive stopper whenever one of the nuggets players would really get going and they were pretty much all going. In this game, he would put Kyle coups on that guy, he cow Kuzina on Jamal Murray to try to slow him down at one point. I think that's telling US shows just how much cow Kouzmine has improved on the defensive end of the floor and and they don't want to get your thoughts on the final play. So what do you think about cow cruise was defense for the moment then we'll get back to his offense. I loved everything about who since we've come back I mean like in terms of it feels like everything has been better like there's been times where guys have blown by was like like in the past but I've seen a lot more like even if somebody blows by WHO's like I've seen crews recover I've seen coup stay on top man stay in front of people I've seen crews. Block shots I've seen like he's just I I don't know if it's I'm sure part of it is as he's just going healthy now because we keep hearing about, you know when he was you know during the summer he had the injury Languid. Team USA and but I mean he also looks more comfortable. It doesn't like I don't look at coups like we did a few months. Ago, when we felt like WHO's trying to force up shots and he was just kind of out of place within the offense and the defensive feels like cruises got a lot more comfortable and showing not only on the offensive end but the defensive end and the defense of has been something we've been harping on him about of forever. So I I, just I feel like you know this is. The best case scenario breasts I mean rilya coming out of the bubble we this is what we wanted. Outta cruises what we're giving out a cruise and it hasn't been pretty some of these games obviously. But you know to know that we're going to go into the playoffs and everybody's going to be healthy and we know that light Kuzak awesome rhythm and thank God we're not talking about. Danny Green tonight it was really nice to see him kind of come along for his sake. Say. Because I you know because I even I was starting to get like I'm doing frustrated two of my men. Dr. been as late Wednesay GonNa come around can we depend on them but you know so I mean I just overall I mean highlighting the coups thing obviously but I feel optimistic about all of that were bras going into the playoffs. Yeah and let's let's finish on the Kuzina talk with this, and then we're going to get onto something else by the way I'm seeing all kinds of topics come all kinds of comments coming in about cow KUZMA everybody is saying how? How excited they are about him I've got TJ Rulli says cruises focusing. He's not out in La, posing for pictures, and that's really all he can do is play basketball. Hang out at Disneyworld. That's so he's he's definitely focused. That's for sure a lot of comments here about Michael Porter Jr. and how good he was here's the thing like my junior was amazing and he was he couldn't miss but there wasn't a single play went that was kouzmines fault. I don't like Kouzmin didn't give him any open looks it wasn't like he got any easy ones. He hit Kuzma made him tough shots and to Puerto Juniors credit he made them and so that's I. Don't look at those points as a fault of Kyle Kuzma or anything I. think that's the Lens. We have to defense through sometimes guys are just GonNa hit really tough shots Kouzmin did a great job there but let's finish this the final play who would have ever thought that Lebron James and Anthony Davis would be decoys for Kyle Kuzma to take a last second shot and credit the Frank Vogel for it because if you're GonNa do that even though the like your gut reaction would be. Get The win right. Do whatever it takes team needs a win give the ball the Labron give the ball of the post ad just make that happen no he ran a play for Kyle Kuzma because he wanted to find out what's Kuzma going to do under pressure and now you find out in a game that really still doesn't matter in terms of standings Frank Vogel got that opportunity ran the play for crews but he likes it down. I. Loved IT Great Decision Great Execution and then Kouzmin knocked down the shot it was brilliant. and. This is going to be great for us because this is gonNA give coups a ton of confidence back vet they didn't even more final second suffolk. He was on the team he's on a team with Lebron, James and Anthony. Davis and they actually intended to go to him. They did use those guys decoys so I mean. This is going to be great. You know this is what exactly what apply like who's needs I would imagine to have a moment like this is going to give him some competence that can carry over into the playoffs. I mean. It's not obviously the playoffs are going to be difficult in that. We're not always going to get games like this out of coups but like you. Said you know it used to be like every other game for coups. We're seeing a lot more consistent out of him. He looks like I mean it looks like the whole goal shipping he looks healthier. He looks more comfortable. He's He's looking more confident and he's going to be much more confident. You know just coming out of the Gay Mike Tonight Man I think this was Amazing Coups Mania is running wild goose means what you gotTa do what you gotTa do when it goes mania runs wild on you I've got a lot of people talking about about how good cow Kuzina was. Let's jump over. We're going to get the dion waiters just a minute but let's talk about the other two stars. Let's talk about Anthony Davis and Lebron. James. Lebron goes nine of twenty-one shooting. That's okay. five of eleven from deep. Six of ten from the line only one rebound, which is weird for Lebron, but twelve assists two blocks did a five turnovers but twenty nine points to lead the Lakers Anthony Davis super-efficient nine of fifteen shooting six boards. Five three steals two blocks stuff the stats sheet twenty-seven points. For Ad What did you like from from Lebron an eighty s performance typically Lebron going early to Anthony Davis and trying to get him established right from the Get-go. A If you noticed I mean there was a lot more aggressiveness of a tonight I mean some of those put back dunks and I think even in alleyoop and like a d was just really given light tonight and I felt like the same thing with the Bronx just really felt like. They. Were asserting themselves a little more and they were actually trying to get there but you know. The like they were, you know trying to get a little bit of rhythm and. You know they were doing a bit more than they had done in the previous few games. I think you know specifically Lebron might have kind of deferred two different guys because he's trying to get them going you know what I mean, and maybe not necessarily focusing on himself. But a man like Ab had a couple of plays where he dunked the ball and he fired up and there's not even any people that are Mansour me he was feeling it and. So I mean, I like what I saw them out with the exception. I guess I think Lebron had a tough night freaked wine. maybe even the team in general, my free throw line but you know it is what it is. You know he's just going to have to keep getting his reps in and hopefully that won't be a big issue in the playoffs. That's I mean you know it always typically is with the broncos have been the final seconds the game he's not driving and he's trying to make a basketball player. It turns into, he doesn't want to shoot free throws, right? You know let's just let's hope that doesn't continue to be an issue the playoffs but outside of that I mean I liked it. What did you I mean look I I liked what we saw on the night sixty nine percent for the team from the free throw line, which is nice. But not so nice on the Basketball Court Look Lebron I thought he played well I thought. Lebron. Tried to step things up a bit early in the first half. There was some moments where I was a little bit worried like he didn't look quite as explosive as we'd expect I started thinking maybe this groin injury really is a deal maybe it is something. To Be Concerned About Anthony Davis I'll tell you what. So there are moments where Anthony Davis is a little bit too mild mannered for me for my liking I would like to ad fired up a little bit more and kind of play with that. Just play with a little bit of that Venom right and tonight it felt like he did that felt like he was man after what happened last. Game and he came out and showed it and the Lakers were determined to get him going early. In fact, the first possession of the game was a play designed to get eighty the ball about five feet from the rim where he just turn and shoot and he did that scored it. He had a great night I love the Lob Dunks I. Love Him just getting up and dunking over. People, and having that kind of energy I, think that's going to be really important Lebron talked a little bit about I'm paraphrasing about how it's difficult not playing in front of fans, and now you kind of have to generate your own energy and I almost wonder if he was talking about Anthony Davis with that I think we saw a more energized Anthony Davis and a more self motivated ad. Tonight so that was that was really good to see Sure. There were still mistakes but overall I think you've got gotta be happy to see one ad bounce back and to Lebron. Have a nice solid performance like this and see him kind of it looked like he at some point he told himself. Okay. We have to win this one. I'm going to get going and he did he started takeover. I like I like what you said to 'cause I kind of agree with that with the ad sometimes, you just don't. You're not asking you know I i. know it's almost cliche. This point verts are trying to ask is out killer instinct armaments. I mean, you really really want eighty to be like you said a little meaner and that's why I pointed out that dunks man like a couple of those dogs he got. He really got some emotion after and fired up and that's going into exactly what you were saying just you know what we need some fire we need some meanness we need some aggressiveness out of. He's so skilled and everything, but you know just you know I I much prefer a mean Anthony Davis rather than eight. Anthony Davis who's you know just relying on his is fundamental skills all the time because you know that just doesn't always translate no no, it doesn't, and and and we also should note that Anthony Davis made a big block towards the end of the game there too. So He's getting it done on the defensive end of the floor in that particular one Okay. Let's talk a little bit about Oh somebody mentioned here Lebron James had five threes. Yeah. That definitely helped out the Lebron had advisories. That's that's pretty big founders range. Yeah. I definitely did. Yeah, absolutely. He was great but let's talk a little bit about the other guy that we get tons and tons of comments on. Yeah. We're GONNA, take a trip. Let's go to waiters island. We're going to go head down head down to waiters island pack your sunscreen. We're going to go ahead down to waiters island because it is scorching hot there I'm getting all kinds of heartaches that are coming in here. I've got people saying deal waiters is great I've got people saying Dion waiters should start I've got people saying deal waiters defense is terrible. There's all it's flying all over the place. Dion waiters on the night five, eight shooting. One of two from deep three assists twelve points. One turn over he was a plus five on the evening Chris Thoughts on Dion waiters tonight in this game. I still liked them. I think you look good tonight and I think definitely provides US something in terms of bench swearing and also ball emily and you know you're not in love with every possession is but it's not like you I. looked at the some of the guys we have. You know what I mean look at Jr Smith and Cook even though I know Cook had a great game last game I kept thinking about. You know just because you were such a cook advocate and then he goes off and Atlanta. So that was pretty cool but I just I like what we're getting from waiters but that's because you know I look at Jr. Smith you know I'm. I don't people are GonNa? Get Mad at me I guess but I kind of life that he's out of the rotation a little bit because I didn't like much of what he was doing and I it just it's not to say he can't shots and stuff like that. But it just seemed like every time are Smith the ball was about possession you know and I know needs to get his legs under him and all that. But I mean I'm just looking at our new acquisitions and even I. Know, we're not talking about Morris Morris even did a couple good moments night I think he hit a couple threes so but I really think that waiters, waiters, island kind of Ed's the list of all of our our new guys when you look at Morris when you look at Jr Smith when you look, you don't leave until cooking there because cook hasn't been a solid piece of the rotation but you gotta you gotta point to what he's doing it. You know mean breaking down the defense i. You Know I. Don't think there's much more positive than negative What about you? Yeah, I'm right there with you. So I think you hit the nail on the head there's more positive than negative. There is plenty of negative discuss here, and on the let's let's focus on the good right. Now, the offensive end of the floor, the offense is the good with the on waiters period, and the reason for that is because they so badly needed his skill set he can get to the rim which we've seen. Him that a bunch he can hit tough shots. He can hit from outside no he's not a total sniper. He's not Klay Thompson behind the line or anything like that but he can't he's a threat out there he can hit those shots and that's made a difference for Lakers second unit which has been really important. You need somebody who can put the ball in the basket when Lebron isn't on the floor and I think they have found that in dion waiters I think he's at the very least his. Skill set is what they have been missing on the bench unit. On the flipside his defense is atrocious and I don't know how much of that at this point is him being new to the system I think that there is certainly a percentage of it. That is because he's new to the system and not just he's playing a bad vendor. I think some of it is he's new to the system and he's trying to figure things out hopefully he gets that done because if I'm Frank Vogel I'm looking. At what you need to do for the playoffs and I am just sitting dion waiters down in front of defensive schemes all day and saying here crash course we need to teach you all of this because how many times did the Lakers get back door cut in this game? How many times were they caught fall watching? That was that was the frustrating part of this game was the defense and that's not all on waiters. There are a number of guys who did it, but dion waiters tends to get. Lost on the defensive end I think if you're going to play dion waiters, you have to make one hundred percent sure that tailored Horton Tucker is not on the floor with him because Taylor Horton Tucker does the same thing which we should expect. He's young nothing against t h t that's what you would expect out of him. He's he's nineteen years old. He's GonNa Occasionally Miss Rotations Miss Things on the defensive end of the floor. He did it a few times tonight but if you put him in waiters. Together that defensive issue is compounded because now you have two guys getting lost instead of trying to cover for one that said waiters offense has been so good. It's made up for the defensive deficiencies, but if you can get him to even be average at least make the right rotations at the right time even if he's not this incredible on ball defender then he becomes even more valuable. So if I'm frank, Vogel, that's my focal point right now for Dion, waiters is getting those defensive rotations down. With the we did see a lot of defensive lapses tonight and I'm imagining that was probably some of those were on waiters baby venda Talker as well. Tonight probably, right? Yeah. They they both. A number of plays that they just just flat out. They were either in the wrong spot or made the wrong re like reacted incorrectly to what was going on on the floor and it does really stick out and so that's that's certainly an issue. But again, I, don't want to sound negative about waiters. I am super pumped about what waiters has provided because we've been Chris. You know for months for the entire season we've been saying, this is what the Lakers need off the bench they need somebody who can score. They need somebody who can attack the basket and waiters is doing that stuff. So in my mind is still he's still a big big positive. You just have to figure out some way to get the defensive end to be at least respectable. Bowler. Great. Are We? Who Do you want to get into that? What you want to get into? Morris. Well, let's let's see. Let's get into the chat here. Let's get into when everybody is saying we've been all kinds of questions. A Rondo question go figure Myron Chan from Youtube says, how will the roster look with Rondo is back? Okay Crystal. Let's go with this rotation for right now. So you've got Murky Morris Dwight the starting five are the stars. Let's assume Casey P takes Kuzma spot back and he starts Bela's assume that which maybe you could make an argument goes mustard start danny green but so is it so daily green? Lebron? Ada. The jail and Casey. Let's assume that's your starters and then you've got coming off the bench, you'd have dwight you'd have Kuzma you'd have waiters. You'd have Caruso who somebody we'll talk about interest to bid. And, then you would have. I guess maybe Rondo but then you're cutting out, mark. Morris in order to get him in there are you not playing Quinn Cook like what are you? What are you doing? What lengths would you go to in order to get Rondo on the floor and we've been talking all about how the rotation needs to be cut down for the playoffs You're still looking at guys who deserve it's. Not Getting them because if you had Rondo back into it, somebody's gotTa lose their spot. Yeah and I don't think see I wouldn't that's a tough question because when you talk about Rondo, like the first person I, think of his waders. But then again, I don't know if you WANNA sacrifice what waiters is doing offensively Rondo we know the problems of Rondo offensively right like you as far as spacing all that so and I don't know that's that's a really good question. I don't know who you sacrifice the minutes for honestly for Rondo. Maybe I. I'm pretty sure Vogel is going to try to work to win because of his experience and because he can ball handle but I just I don't know the minutes are from-from I mean I guess maybe I was GONNA say Alex. Caruso. But I doubt that they're like sacrifice. Russo. Just because of what is the advanced numbers are with him on the floor with Lebron advanced numbers for. I that's I'm glad you brought that up. We need to mention this Alex. Even, though he had zero points led the team in plus minus tonight at his a plus twenty one. I mean does it's crazy. Wow. He didn't even get even Albany. Always Ause I. Think he has four assists not sir. Yeah. So you know what does that said? Wow he finds ways to get things done that don't show up on the box score I mean that's That so that what what do you think like? So how would you integrate Rondo or or maybe? Has I mean Morris. Morris is going to be needed on situational basis, but that's two completely different position I. Don't know I, really found a loss for how to do. So I think it's GonNa be a real challenge for Frank Vogel, but I think ultimately comes down to Robert Gonzales from Youtube mentioned this here I think he's right. He said it's going to depend on match ups and I think that's it I think I think that's really what it's GonNa come out it's there isn't going to be maybe it was kind of a trick question I don't think there's going to be a consistent player that you removed put Rondo in like I don't think you to say okay well. Dion waiters sorry. You don't get any minutes anymore rondos back. I don't think you do that I think it could be Mark Morris one night the next night. If they're playing a team that runs the different bench unit, it could be somebody else maybe it does wind up being Caruso or someone It's going to be up to Frank Vogel and the coaching staff to figure that out. But on one hand it's an issue but on the other like it's a good problem to have right to have more players that deserve minutes than you can give out is a great problem, right? You'd rather have that then more minutes than you can find good players for. Could. You ever see US using? In terms of a bench unit if we had to go small with our beds for whatever reason that we weren't using dwight or devel-, who'd you see Morris running the five spot and then maybe some kind of lineup that integrates Rondo. Waiters, Caruso I guess, and then who who am I leaving out on their or is it as Iran? Rondo and waiters, Caruso Markeith Morris, and and coups what would be in a small bowl lineup. Yeah. That would be and so I don't know just that's something Frank Vogel messed around with that a little bit before the season shutdown, and so it wouldn't surprise me to see that come back with Marc. If Morris, at the five, I can't do that by the way. Mark Morris did a pretty good job tonight three of five, shooting two, four, three, seven boards, eight points in eighteen minutes. You'll take that all day every day for guy you've got for free off of the buyout market and same thing with with waiters getting for free was real big. So that was pretty Pretty Awesome. See that happened. I do WANNA get into a little bit of Dwight. Howard. I had somebody made a comment and I lost again. That's so funny. You said I was just thinking about him too I mean he didn't have the best night in terms of when you look at the numbers but I liked what I saw. was battling tonight and I don't know. Where will you know I I agree with you I think that we've seen a little bit better version of white like it's been more the in season version of Dwight Howard that we've seen the last two games and somebody popped up popped up comment and I lost the name here but they said two games in a row of no moving screen calls against our it. So I think. That's a huge victory right there like we could celebrate that one two games in a row of no moving screen violations. That's that's pretty amazing. Dwight Howard root was also four of five from the free throw line tonight. So I mean, you'll take that I. think he's been he's been solid I've enjoyed seeing seeing dwight. Howard. Play that way it simply with which avail McGee he's been really good as well. Okay. Let's get into a little bit of the negative Some people are saying him over jail. We'll see we'll see what they do. But, let's talk a little bit about the Lakers defense. So this is been so far that has been the only good thing. They were number three when I looked this morning in defensive rating in the bubble that was the only thing like somewhat keeping them alive because they were dead last an offensive rating they can shoot. For the last seventy games couldn't shooter all. Night, the shooting came back. They shot great offense was good. I liked some of the cuts I like the ball movement the passing this were coming back up, which happens when you make shots. But the defense wasn't there. So what do you do on the defensive end? The floor does that worry like have we solved one problem and now we've just got another one. What are your thoughts on the defensive performance of the Lakers tonight. I don't think we solve one problem. We have another I think again, I think this is just part of like when you've had this much time off, I feel like gets about rounding in the form and I feel like you know the kind of stress the defense to a point where they didn't maybe they didn't worry about the offense the offense everybody started freaking out because the offense was so bad and then or maybe they didn't even consciously try to do that. But maybe it's just happening this way that like you know they they always kind. Of want a set the tone defensive, right that's part of their old deal but you know it just it just seems to me like the offense is either they were starting to hear all the chatter about what's wrong with the offense Oh my God they can't make a shot and they just wanted to shut everybody up or it's just you know they're just getting back rhythm I. Mean it's starting to get back and rhythm because again tonight when I watched the game, it felt a lot more. They felt a lot more like themselves so again. offensively. Yeah. You're not I mean like it felt like they were getting Luke's shooting with more smooth. Everything on that and the look much better look more of what I had been familiar with with the teat. Yeah absolutely. Look this has been something where where they haven't looked right they haven't looked like a as you said, they haven't looked like themselves and then tonight on the offense of the end of the floor they did. They looked like the Lakers again, the ball movement that cuts off the ball crews mcchord into the basket everything Lebron hitting these deep threes and Anthony Davis dominating inside it looked familiar it looked more like Lakers basketball. So if you're frank, Vogel, you've got to be happy with that the defense they were getting back door cut left and right? Simple plays even by bench players from Denver just executing they weren't doing anything crazy but they were executing and they were hitting shots which. Obviously it's a maker mislead Those were really given the Lakers problems on the defensive end of the floor. So there wasn't anything that I look at though and thought Oh gosh. Oh Gosh Denver just expose something with the Lakers defense it's all over now. Now I I, thought everything was very fixable. Everything was just so mental mistakes being off half a step or two. Of that hat Chris I like it. I like it. That's a nice is the Lebron dodger hat. I dig it about exactly Lebron by it is pretty close Ed. I'm GonNa put I gotTa Jerry Buss. With all the panel. Yeah I want to put that on this side Yep Yep. Yeah. You got it to I've ever. Got When I was just looking it's buried somewhere and all my money I want to get it right here. I'm thinking about taking it's a list because it's a patch actually not. I'll cool hatch. I got a couple of them. Yeah. I wish I had to be one I like it I like it but anyway look I think that everybody's saying Nice Hat. They're all chiming in here. Chris. They dig the hat. So gotTa talk about tonight even better we went tacos. This is. This. The defensive performance was great. But I think there's enough where Frank Vogel can just kind of dual film study say, Hey, these are the issues. This is what we need to fix and I think they can I. I think what they can do is fix these things and eventually get things going on that under the floor. We've seen it. I'm not gonNA panic about the defense at this point. I don't think it's that big of a concern like, yeah. The Denver Nuggets, bench, lighting you up. That's not great. But they're NBA players and they had a ridiculously hot shooting night. Apart of that was the Lakers defense was poor. But another part of it was Denver was just hitting shots I mean the nuggets on the night shot fifty, eight percent from the field and fifty seven percent from deep. Some of that is bad defense. Some of that hot should while. Those are socialism crazy pensive percentages Barrasso fiving this bubble has just been. You know there's there. It's been funny because out of what stop player for John Morand for mammoth person's been going crazy or memphis a song. Bob Has created this scenario where you know some guys are really shining that might have not actually shine before. I. Don't know. Everything about this unpredictable. and. Having to go into anybody's home arena. And play in front of a you know a raucous crowd or or you know an aggressive anything like that. So I don't know man. It's just You know some of these players playing out of minds that does not wouldn't necessarily I guess I think that. Way talked about that a little bit to life guy you know that some teams are going to be like, you know, ah, Lakers are going to be a disadvantaged. In terms of the fact that nobody's ever going to be coming into the staple center tap to face those kind of odd. But I mean, that's every. Right, every team has to deal with that it and let's move to that topic next because we're gonNA talk about what's coming next to the playoffs and so i WanNa talk about the fact that only the Lakers lose who? But they're going to be like the team to know who they're playing in the first round because there's going to be a plan. So let's talk about that stuff but. Overall I thought the Lakers were were good in this one I enjoyed what we saw out of them but I think there's an interesting effect on here and it's this bubble effect like suddenly TJ Warren. Is, a is a monster to superstar and suddenly the sons are going Berserk and and can't lose their six and now. What is happening I? Think the environment change has had a few unintended consequences that we weren't anticipating, and that's players don't have to deal with anything else. Now there's nothing there. They don't have to deal with all of the outside stuff that they normally would during the regular season and getting through those things is a skill getting through everyday life while managing your professional career is a skill and now all they have to focus on basketball, and so we're seeing these kind of random players and teams jump up and part of it is a small sample size too but they no longer have. Anything else to focus on, they can just focus on basketball, and so it has shifted a few things around the League Brook Lopez has been going crazy and you wouldn't think so because he's Disneyworld and he loves disneyworld but he's going crazy out there. TJ. Warrant is another one that The sun's going. Berserk you mentioned John Mirant who's who's very, very good. But I think that there have been a few little oddities that we weren't really anticipating. It's it's kind of fun. But when you're the, that's the number one seed you kinda wanted everything to just stay the same and not have any surprises. That I feel like this is going to be kind of an x factor going into the playoffs like guy you know you're going to. I don't know you just you really an Lebron's even alluded to it. You just kind of this is so different than yeah like I personally vouch for the fact that like you know the for these guys not out to travel is such a huge thing to not have to do these flights I, mean they're. Going to be. Though I mean they're playing a lot of games in a short period of time, but they're not having to endure all that other stuff. So he really just don't know like. It's really going to be I feel like it's going to create a very unpredictable type of playoffs where you might see some possible upsets that you might not have expected I could be wrong. Maybe everything kind of fall exactly. The way you know we're all expecting in terms of you know the top four teams whatnot but. Now. This is just the Zoll different game by I think, what's your friends? They say old new game I mean it kind of is in some respects it really is it's changed a lot of things and against some of it was was unpredictable in terms of what's change which, and again if you're a team that's in first place and everything's going well for you, you're not the team to see massive changes. All, right. Let's talk a little bit about the first round of the playoffs. So the Lakers are in a spot where again they're. They've been put at a disadvantage like the plan tournament is a fun idea on paper but I don't think the League anticipated the fact that you're going to take the number one seed and not only takeaway homecourt advantage from them but you're also going to put them at a disadvantage because every other team will know who their opponent is before the number one seed. So you're you're making even more difficult on them. So from the Lakers perspective, that's not great. But here's where things sit right now memphis currently has the eight see but just barely they were three and a half games up at this point I think memphis big big big trouble. I would not favor them over I, don't care who it is. If it's the sun's the Spurs, the Blazers does not matter. I do not favor the grizzlies in a plan tournament even if they're going in as the eighth seed where they only have to win once. I kind of think Memphis which which is a bummer I would rather play than any of those other teams but memphis sitting at the seed Portland is only a half game back. I thought they were GONNA lose their last game to the seventy sixers even without Ben Simmons and then losing Joel Embiid didn't happen. The Phoenix Suns are one game back. So the suns can get up there but they need Portland lose and then the spurs are also one game back in the Memphis Grizzlies two games to play for all these teams so. It's a very, very tough and tight finisher that we're GONNA see I I don't know what's going to happen I. Know I've got my my preference would be to not see the blazers, but I also think that's the most likely outcome at this point. Da just feels like that's kind of where this is going. Dame Lillard has been playing out of his mind you know Although he did kind of choke on those free throws but that created a whole nother story line with the clippers. Pat Bez George you know talking smack. So I don't know I just. I hate the back because I I didn't think about that too much by the Lakers are gonNA have no time to prep, which is completely unfair for the number one seed to you know you're supposed to out whatever advantages are available to you and. You and that's just kind of another reason I felt personally, I have a lot of people do that like it's going to be important that for it was an important getting win tonight but it's also going to be imported kind of this this last game they out before the playoffs because if things going to happen the way we're imagining they couldn't a- facing a red hot. Trailblazers Team I. Don't think you know the places aren't gonNA upset the Lakers or anything like that, and we've already clarified that everybody was we we? The last show but You know they it's definitely not a favorable first round match. Nope for our team and where we're just we're trying. Our I've know that our whole perspective when it comes to this is just you know we want them to have another. Looking I guess we are kind of looking for an easier route. Sure we don't want to put the miles. We don't want to put the miles on them in the first round is what it comes down to exactly exactly a hundred percent not saying the blazers would win, but I would rather the Lakers have say four-game sweep or A. Five game series against Memphis than deal with a six or seven game series against the Blazers I think it's a much more difficult team to deal with than say the grizzlies would be but again I at this point, I'm expecting it to be the blazers but usually got coming up Michael's rods that trevor please don't let it be the blazers then rockets than clippers. Okay, Michael, I definitely control that and so I will I will make sure it's not that I'll deal with it but no. So tomorrow night for games to keep an eye on here you've got the sons are tomorrow afternoon Russians say you've got the sons and the sixers and then you also have the blazers and the mavs and earlier in the day you've got the rockets and the Spurs. So the outcomes of those games are definitely going to matter to the Lakers. Ideally, you would see in my mind you would see. The Celtics and grizzlies you want. The everybody to wait except for the blazers, you want the mavs to be in the Blazers and then you'd WanNa see the sons, the grizzlies, and the Spurs all win. Because again, I would rather see any of those teams than the Blazers and so if you can bump everybody up a little bit and knocked the blazers down a little bit I would take that and then on Thursday we've got the Lakers finished things. OFF WE SACRAMENTO. By the way, we are not gonna be able to do a post game show for that one because it is a ten thirty am game it's going to be middle of the day and we both have prior commitments. So won't be able to do a post game show unfortunately when we get back to normal game times, I will definitely be back at it but Thursday, you finish with. Milwaukee against the grizzlies. which is not good for the grizzlies and their changes although Milwaukee could be resting guys. You've got the mavs and the sons which is going to be a real close one the spurs and the Jazz, and then Portland and. Brooklyn. Yeah. And Brooklyn is upset wins but still I'd have to think that'll be kind of a Gimme for Portland. So I'm thinking we really need the blazers to lose tomorrow against the mavs in order for these other teams to have a shot here I think that's what it's GonNa. Boil down to. And then I'm just curious because I don't know. I've ever or I don't completely understand, but is is definitely going to display and thing this is going to be. Come down to two teams ahead. Okay and then so whoever's in the higher spa would just have to win the one game and the opposing team but after correct yeah. So the the way they set it up is that if if say if whoever was in the eighth seed had a four game lead or more, the nine seed, there is no plan and the eight seat is just solidified and that's it. It's done and so that's what we're going to see. Happen the Eastern Conference because the. The magic have a seven and a half game lead over the wizard. So there won't be a plan game in the West though there's definitely because it's only a half game lead right now and only two games left there definitely will be a play in game or games. The nine seed has to win two games that are, oh, the eighth seed only has to win one to advance. So we'll see who that ends up being again, my preference would for it to be. Any two teams, but the blazers in that eight, nine C. But again it, it does feel likely that it'll be the Blazers Hey Chris Lemme let me throw this out here. I did a video yesterday speaking of the Blazers all about the clippers and them trying to take their game against the blazers just to Portland up and make it more likely that the Lakers will have to deal with the blazers in round one, they pulled Paul. George with five minutes left they benched him. They didn't play Kawai, which is shocking but they also held Lou Williams to eighteen minutes. They did everything they could to tank the game away and somehow they still won accident only when Damian Lillard business free throws and everything. But one, what's your thought on that would is that okay, does it bother you that the clippers were on purpose trying to lose a game just to mess with the Lakers? While circus I'm the Lakers fan obviously. So anything about them annoys me a you know it just they do this any chance they can. It reminds me of went quiet kinda jerk this around that old league and. You. Know we could've been making moves but I mean they just try to kind of if feels like it's been a theme for them to kind of stick US whenever they can and I'm not completely sure that they. Definitely looks like that's what they were trying to do but You, know it is what it is mad at the same time I know Doc rivers you know technically he can say that he wants to rest guys. We're that close to the playoffs. So I mean there's nothing there's nothing you can really do about it. You know what I mean if the end of course myself you and Blaker station we're all going to be upset about it but you know what it You know it is what it is right and and the Lakers aren't in a position to do that anybody really they. They had no opportunity to mess with the standings at all they're their wind tonight does put the rockets within a game of the Denver Nuggets and so the hope would be that the Denver Nuggets lose and game and the rockets can win and so ideally a personally, I would rather see the nuggets and. So maybe by by beating the nuggets here, you can bump the rockets up into the three seats and put them on the back onto the clippers side of the bracket that would be great I in my mind. But other than that, there's not a whole lot. They can do to really mess with the seating the rockets do get I'm just looking at their schedule here the rockets do get the spurs coming up which. That's going to be tough because I want the spurs to win to move up at the same time kind of what the rockets to win 'cause I don't WanNa them round to and then who the rockets finished with. Miss An oh, the pacers then they get the pacers to wrap things up. So it wouldn't surprise me if the rockets went to zero and then I guess it depends on who plays and all that and how badly the rockets want the three see. But then again, if on the rockets I'd rather play the Lakers and the clippers. So we'll see how things go there I but look does it Does it bother me all that much. It's a I guess you kind of expected. That's what the the clippers do. They're going to do any little thing they. That's why the clippers went after Darren Collison wasn't that they needed another point guard they just wanted to try to do a preemptive strike against the Lakers. It's why they went after Marcus Morris because if they got him, that means the Lakers didn't That's they're very very concerned with trying to stop the Lakers and keep the Lakers from having a path to the NBA finals and Okay that's fine. There are two big rivals and all that kind of stuff, but it does feel a little bit underhanded when you're doing everything, you possibly can to try to lose a game short of telling players to just flat out missed shots. And they do all that just to kind of mess with the Lakers. It's. It's not a great Lok but I can laugh about it. Now because because it failed, it didn't work it backfired on them. What are the you know? It's the clippers they hate us because they nuts us right like. You know they're always they're competing for this market and they just know that there's no way they're gonNA ever take over the sparking I think bomber has some kind of oppression that like, oh, he can. You know right Los Angeles Real cool on his jersey, put it arena in Inglewood all of a sudden people are. Going to convert, but it doesn't work like that. You a crappy franchise that has installed no confidence in Los Angeles for the last thought I. What is it five decades? Number is not it's is not GonNa happen you know what I mean like you can out this little pipe dream, but you'd be much better off than Seattle Unfortunately, there wouldn't make nearly as much money in Seattle as as so they're not moving there but but they would even here's my thing to like the clippers name would actually make sense in Seattle because a clipper is a ship, right? So it makes sense for the clippers to be in Seattle and look la you can say still close to water and all that. That's that's fine but it wouldn't be anything where it would be like the jazz in Utah which makes no sense. The New Orleans jazz moved to Utah they kept the name jealous. It's like it's like the Flint Tropics right where the name was makes no sense for the local. So, they wouldn't be dealing with that but now the clippers aren't going to seattle unfortunately that's not gonNA happen. What's Funny Senecas? rakers obviously for Minnesota I mean I. Guess We have weights era. Where it's not. There are leaks in California though, but it's not as prevalent as it is yeah, Minnesota. Why it works because it just sounds so good los. Angeles Lakers you know the the Elliott alliteration on. Yeah it doesn't even matter. Really. Yep Yep agree. Yeah, you know just real quick. So with a eighth and ninth seed, like if the let's say the knives see beat safety and how our they scheduling the Games is going to be on a Saturday then if they add the play. The extra game it's going to be on that the following day. Yeah. Let me see if it's even here on this. Eleven. Her writing didn't realize there were actually Friday games I believe it Saturday and Sunday and I think it's back to back over there two games back to back and I think that's how they're running it, and then the playoffs start like right away they have very, very little turn around. So I think that's I believe that's the way they're doing it in order to to get the Games in time and then get the playoffs. Off and running I've got a comment here. Joshua Seth Lane Lane spelled differently than mine the clippers being ousted in the first or second round would be the best gift of twenty twenty yet. Have we gotten any gifts in twenty twenty? If we have, I'd like to return those gifts because I feel like all we've gotten is is one just negative thing after another from quarantines in Corona viruses and losing Kobe and all of these things that have happened in twenty twenty but but yes, I certainly would be too upset if the Clippers did get bounced in the first round by the mavs Luca Danni goes nuts or in the second round, maybe by the rockets if they're I would. I would shed no tears. The clippers went home early. That's for sure. Are you kidding me we begin to. Maybe. Take a victory laps. Okay. We're GONNA do let's take one more question them. We'll call it an evening here. Let. Me See what we've got. We've got all kinds of good ones coming in. Julian Harris just a little. Well as housekeeping here, more than anything else can both the sons and the blazers make the playoffs no, it's like highlander. There can be only one because the mavs are locked into that seven seed I believe which means they can't drop out of the seventy only one team can claim that eight seed so they can both get into the play in tournament if the Grizzlies dropped little more on the suns, blazers go up. You could see sons versus blazers for the that's possible But that doesn't mean they're in the playoffs that means during the play in round, and then one of them would become the team the Lakers would face as the the. K- Question for Michael's Rod what happens if the rockets and nuggets tie in the standings I believe you go to the the next tiebreakers you go to like the head to head matchups you go to the I'm trying to remember what all the tiebreakers are. It's been awhile since we've had to worry about it since the Lakers have been in the playoffs but I believe they've just followed the standard NBA tiebreakers to figure out where the city would be. All Right Chris. Anything before we, we wrap it up calling an evening. Hiring I. Think we've pretty much covered. Everything you know like I guess we've got this game. Thursday, which again will be all right for that one but next time I. Guess you see us at least calling a game it'll be. The first playoffs first round of the playoffs Lord. Let's all get. Let's get ready. That's right. Let's go for the liberal up be Lakers, the playoffs I can't wait it's been. It's been way way too long overall look as much as we want to complain about the Defense Kyle. Kuzma, hit a game winner tonight I gotTa gotTa love at I'm going to be excited about that so good stuff on. The offensive end of the floor look good for the Lakers tonight. So we will take it. 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Lakers Defeat Mavs On Christmas

Lakers Nation Podcast

53:09 min | 9 months ago

Lakers Defeat Mavs On Christmas

"Bleeding purple and gold from the Heart of Los Angeles is the lakersnation.com podcast with your host Trevor Lane. Hello Lakers Nation. Welcome in and Merry Christmas Trevor Lane here for lakersnation.com just me tonight. But hey as always never really just me. It's me and all of you talking Lakers basketball the Lakers do pick up the win against the Dallas Mavericks. We're going to break down that game. We're going to talk about that won't bomb they came out right before the game about Dennis Schroder working off an extension with the Lakers. What does that mean both for schruder? And for the team moving forward? We'll talk about that as well. We'll talk about Well, everybody's favorite player right now Marcus all I'm already seeing plenty questions and comments about him. We're going to be breaking that all down plus. I'm going to give away some lakersnation.com T-shirts guys. Make sure you go check out our flake group chat. It's a lot of fun on the flake app. You can find us at Lakers name. Official over on like like this chat has been going crazy all game. We've been going back and forth talking Lakers. I'm on there every single day talking with Lakers fans. It's a lot of fun. So if you guys want to continue this discussion during non game hours or even during the game not just post game. We do all of our talking right over there on the flake app, so go check it out download it from the app store and then find us at Lakers nation of factual and you can come join in the discussion. All right. So Lakers get the win in this one and well, it was much-needed, you know, the Lakers dropped their their opener against the Clippers this game the roof the offense showed up the Lakers shot 57% from the field and 47% from deep that will get the job done. That is a nice Christmas performance Anthony Dave 28 points eight boards five assists two steals man, just the all-around performance from Anthony Davis 10 of 16 shooting and get this. 305 from deep. Is there anything this man can do 3 or 5 from the three-point line for Anthony Davis as well? LeBron James 22.7 boards 10 assists incredible took him eight for eighteen shooting had a couple of no look passes in this one that were absolutely incredible 348 from behind the arc denish router then is your man. What what a nice two-game performance out of her 18 points in this one six. It says only two boards had twelve last game actually led the team in rebounds at six foot one. But 7 for 11 shooting was getting into the paint causing problems and I like the the energy on the defensive and you know, the big question about him is defensively he's he's not that big he's six one, which is not big for an NBA player. How is he going to be is he going to get picked on it? He actually gave a few issues and I like the way that he fought through things are really stuck with him the dentist router all around great performance only had to play 25 minutes tonight and then you got 22 dead. Twenty-two big points out of Montrezl Harrell what a night for him even had the mid-range jumper were content of Thirteen shooting seven boards. He was everywhere Montrezl Harrell was everything we thought he could be tonight in this one and then Kyle kuzma chipped in 13 points six boards and three of four from 3. This was offensively a much better performance from the Lakers defensively. Yeah, it was a bit of a mixed bag there were some issues there were still some problems. I thought they did pick things up a bit as the game went on and the defensive end of the floor, but we also have to remember the Mavs are a very good offensive team. They did shoot 5:49 % themselves and forty 1% from 3. So this man's team is quality on the offensive end, but we knew defensively they would struggle and it would be up to the Lakers to take advantage pretty much everything. I talked about in the pregame video about how the Lakers would need to attack this man's team about how they could use their size Advantage about how this isn't really a game for Marc Gasol to show what he can do out there because of the style of the Mavs playoff game. I played so small it all pretty much came true. The only thing that we didn't see that I thought we would was a little bit more tht I thought with the amount of small balls of the Mavs play it really they start small with white package at their Center. He was originally a power forward then converted to Center and then sometimes they go to Mexico, but the only time they run a true centers when they put bulb on in there which actually did tonight for a little bit but they go so small. I think this is a great opportunity for Marcus all I thought the Lakers might have to use more wings and that could mean more minutes for Talen horton-tucker. Unfortunately, it didn't you only got seven minutes on the night. But Tuesday did did hit that three there at the end there. But other than that pretty quiet performance from him, but let's talk about what you guys want to talk about. I want to get into your questions and comments. So if you're coming in from YouTube from Facebook from Periscope welcome and thank you guys for joining me. And once again Merry Christmas. I hope you guys had a great day and you enjoyed hanging out with family. I certainly did. I'm exhausted. My daughter had us up super super khong. Was up late last night, but fortunately she crashed out for a little bit mid day after getting tired of playing with all of her stuff. So I'm taking your questions and comments. Let me know what you guys thought about this game anything you want to dive into. I do have a few topics. We need to get to before we call it a night here, but we've got a ways to go before that. All right, let's get in and by the way guys tonight I'm giving away lakersnation.com t-shirts. That's we're going to give away tonight. Lakersnation.com T-shirts, if your question gets picked, all you gotta do is send me a DM on Twitter at Trevor underscore Lane. I'll send you a lakersnation.com t-shirt. All you got to do again. Send me your name mailing address email address. All right, here we go. Let's see what kind of questions we've got coming in people watching the Clippers Nuggets. Yeah. Obviously, I can't watch I've watched them a game today, but I can't watch that one right now. So if anything crazy happens in that one you guys it's up to you guys. Let me know. All right, so I've got a comment here. Few people talking about Dennis Schroder. All right, let's just dive into it. Someone asked lizzo from YouTube. As Dennis Schroder, how much can they give him? So according to a Dreamboat Strauss Keys report and I'll admit I did not know this aspect of the salary cap. Salary cap stuff. I'm like a 3 and 1/2 or 1/4 of five on it. I'm pretty good with salary cap stuff to the point where I can get through just about everything but there's a few little things here and there where I gotta turn to my buddy Keith Smith and go. Hey Keith. What's what's this all about? What does this really mean? What what's going on here? But essentially what's what's happening is the Lakers were limited in what they could offer Dennis Schroder in an extension for the time being for the moment and they were limited to what he offered based on his his old deal. And that limit was a two year deal worth about 33 million according to watch however after February 16th that requirement Falls away. And again, this isn't something I've really heard much about in the past. So I'm going to do more digging on it. But again according to watch bottom line is after February sixteenth the Lakers could offer him a four-year deal instead of two years and go to eighty eight. Eight million, so that's a pretty big difference and maybe that's something that Dennis Schroder would consider taking now from the Lakers side of things in terms of extending him. That's something they want to do. That's all we offer right from day one was that the Lakers did not trade for schruder saying well, he's on an expiring contract we can just get rid of him. Now they traded for sure because they want to keep him. They do not want to let him know they want to keep him long-term. He's twenty-seven years old. They acquired him for a reason and according to what what Brian windhorst said about a month ago. The Lakers have wanted shooter were a wild doesn't a new thing they've wanted him for a few seasons. They tried to get a a few seasons ago like when LeBron first arrived they tried to get Dennis Schroder because he's been a target for the Lakers and he's also been a favorite of LeBron James for a long time. LeBron has been looking at him saying that's a guy I want to play with so the Lakers have been targeting him. They finally got the deal done and they have no intention on letting him go now shorter also knows though. He's dead. Was the Lakers want him he knows the Lakers won him around long-term. And he also knows the Lakers given their salary cap situation. They're going to be over the cap, which means that once let's say shorter walks in free agency. It's not like the Lakers suddenly have what sixteen or so Seventeen million in cap space because shooter left to go spend on somebody else and say okay. No big deal will go replace him with this free-agent loss know they they'll still be over the cap. So it's the same scenario with Kyle kuzma where if you lose the guy you can't replace that player. So the Lakers right now are very much in the mode of okay. Let's retain the guys that we do have because again, they don't have Replacements. So if you're done a shorter and you're going into a negotiation with the Lakers, you've got those two things very strongly in your favor won. The Lakers can't replace you back to you know, they want you they want to keep you around long-term. So it makes sense why shooter would decline that to your deal that the Lakers are offered. They know that's not going to work. But that the extension talks pick up again here in mid-February. And again the Lakers believe in him and based on his place so far again, it's only two games. So let's not go crazy jumping to conclusions, but based on his place so far shooter looks like a keeper long-term. All right. Let's see. What else you guys have for me. By the way, again, shorter great defensively. I really liked what we saw from him there. I like the way that he was able to to Really battle on the defensive end of the floor and the three-point shooting that was another big question. He was 143 from 3 a.m. That's okay. That's fine. But that was the big question. I'm sure you're coming in. Was he shot 39% from Deep last season, but was that real? That was the most the best you have shot from 3 for his career by a lot. And so the question was is that real thing was that just an outlier year. It makes a difference in terms of his values so far. I've been pretty impressed with how comfortable shorter has looked shooting that three point shot. So good signs moving forward for him. All right. All right. Let's talk about it Josh keyless from Facebook said Gasol not looking so good. Kind of a whatever like a face, I guess whatever you call that that little Emoji there, but Gasol not looking so good. All right, let's talk about it. Let's talk about Marcus all I came into this game not expecting a good performance from Arkansas. I came into this game worried about what the reaction was going to be after the game to Marcus all this was not a Mark Gasol game. I told you guys this on the video I put out this morning, right Christmas morning. I put out video breaking down Lakers vs Mavs and I said that Marcus all this isn't the game for him. Why took the map start Dwight Powell was more of an energy big he's going to rely on his quickness. He's not that big bulky guy and the guy that's got maybe a little bit more to him Maxi cleva. He shoots three months. And those are the things you don't want to put Marcus all up against we saw it against the Clippers. You don't want him matched up against Serge Ibaka, you'd rather use them against an ebisu. Bots to Marcus all is a guy that you want to see you wash them against yogesh. Let's face it that if Mark is so successful against jokic, that's it. That's all you're asking for more from be successful against those true back-to-the-basket bakes if you can do that wage. And we're all good. That's why I'm a little bit disappointed. The Lakers didn't go back to kasol when vauban was in but I get it treze had a going. So I understand why Frank Vogel went stuck with him. But yeah, this this wasn't the game for Marcus off. All right, it wasn't and I thought on the boards he was fine nine rebounds. That's great. Write two points over one shooting over one from 3. Go to it the line still underway and there were a number of times where he did look really slow a couple of times where he had to come in finals because he wasn't quick enough. But again, I'll go back to this was not the match up for him. And this is why I still think that it's some point rainbow going to make a change. I mean I'm talking about a permanent one, but I'm talking about a more matchup dependent starting lineup where Vogel is turning to treads in scenarios like tonight's where it's at Dwight Powell starting at Center that you don't want Marcus all the chase around versus when it's a Nikola jokic who you do want us all to defend because he can use that physical strength in that big body these got so that's what I think the Lakers will attract. We moved to but for right now they're sticking with Marcus all at the five and you did see Vogel trying to get Gasol a little bit more opportunities in the high post with the vale at a couple of times and Anthony Davis office screens. There was one in particular that I had called when kasol gave a really nice pass to a d but 80 then got fouled so no assist her Marcus all on that even though the Lakers got points on it off again, though. It wasn't a great performance. Don't get me wrong. It was a little bit better maybe than I thought it would be because it's just it's not the match up for them. It's not I think you have to have very specific matchups to use them and tonight was not that night. So somebody asking me right now should we start Trends over Mark again, depending on the matchup depends on the matchup then maybe you do in certain scenarios next game is going to be really interesting. They take on the Wolves. So you're talking Karl Anthony towns, you use Marcus all to maybe try to deal with him or do you not do you look elsewhere and that one be interesting towns is pretty quick. Lakers fan for life from YouTube said kuzma the decent offense but his defense is simply not good enough for him to be a wing Defender. BOGO should use Morris as the wing Defender instead. I actually disagree and it said that I think that kozma is an all-world Defender, but I do think that in terms of just being a wing Defender just ask him to have that skillset actually think he's better than Morris there Morris isn't quite as quick as Kyle kuzma is yes, he knows a few more tricks and things like that, but Maurice, I'm more comfortable with Maurice guarding fours, and I'm more comfortable with Guzman guarding threes. And remember when you're talking about the best Wing players in the NBA, we've seen kuzmich so far so far this season including preseason. We've seen kuzma against Kauai. Devin Booker Hawaii again Luka doncic right that those are the matchups we've seen for Kyle kuzma so far. He's seen some of the best wings in the NBA. That's that's a tall task for anybody. The key for kuzma is just can you bother these guys even a little bit? That's all you're asking. I still think Kyle kuzma can be a solid Wing Defender for them know he's not a locked-down guy in terms of the three and D archetype, but I do think that he's a pretty solid Defender, but they can be at least average there and then his offensive capabilities will kind of make up for the rest. I did like they ran him off of a curl coming out of a timeout to get him a nice look and he finished that you know what he's not going to blow up and score six points every single night, but I think when he picks his spots like you did tonight, he's a very serviceable player. Richard from YouTube the Trevor should we worry about the Nets know there's nobody to worry about right now. Nobody. The only thing to worry about is the Lakers and burn development as a unit. It's too early to worry about anybody and I put out Darkness with her. I said look after tonight's game the Nets looked like they were in a different tier compared to the Boston Celtics and that gave a lot of people angry. First of all people are upset saying I'm passing judgment too soon. I'm talking about right now right now without Kemba Walker with all these caveats in there. The Nets looked looked like they were on a different tier. They looked better than the Boston Celtics did and it wasn't a surprise to me that they pulled away. I thought they were executing better throughout much of the game. And then the Nets pull away from the Celtics towards. Yeah their offense just tremendous they just keep coming. Keep coming keep coming. They attack you in waves and that's great. But again if we're saying right now the Nets are up here in the East and we haven't seen them play the Bucs. We haven't seen the play the heat off. Haven't seen them play a lot of the other top teams in the west. They are the East they look good against the Celtics, right? They look great. They're look good against the Warriors, but you guys saw what happened to the Warriors tonight. It's possible. Certainly that the Warriors just aren't that good. They got ran off the floor today by the bucks. So look the Nets have looked good so far, but it's too early to worry about them. Are they in contention right now to be the top team? It's just yeah based on this tiny. Tiny sample sized. Yes, but it's too early to worry about any team right now. The only thing the Lakers need to focus on is their own team their own chemistry building everything integrating New pieces and figuring things out from there. That's it. Gavankar who gets the Master Lock tonight Gavin, you gotta you gotta hang around man stick around we will do the Master Lock of the night at some point. I have to do a radio show in about 50 minutes. So it will be in less than 50 minutes. We will do the Master Lock of the night. Don't worry that is coming. We will be mad. I know it's Christmas, but we're still going to pass out a Master Lock that's going to happen. People saying that's are actually good. Yeah, they are that's still good right now. There's no denying them twenty-four. All right. Elokobi 24 said who's still needs to mesh with the squad? Who is it? That has not looked that good so far who needs to figure it out Wesley Matthews Wesley Matt. That's the guy Wesley Matthews tonight. 143. Somebody was asking the chat didn't even score. Yeah two points off 1431 board one steal. He's just looked a little out of sync and I can see him trying on the defensive end, but he hasn't been quite as good defensively as I'd hoped he would be 16 minutes tonight off again. He was okay, but at some point like Frank Vogel said going into this game. He said I'm going to still play eleven players. I'm going to do an 11-man rotation tonight, which means Talen Horton Tucker was part of it with not much of it though. Only played seven minutes got burned defensively a few times, but Vogel said at some point that's going to stop. That's not what he's going to do while season at some point. He's going to figure out who's going to get more minutes and who's going to get less. So that's coming. We know that and right now Wesley Matthews. He's probably on the outside looking in I would be more comfortable certainly having crucial out there than Wesley Matthews. I mean case in point Crusoe on the night + 10 in 13 minutes Wesley Matthews on The Nightlife three again. I'm not saying Wesley Matthews has been bad. He's just been a little out of sorts and that's to be expected. He's new to the team right just came in very limited training camp. I'm probably going to take time. He's a guy that you still want to believe in still think that he can help the team but moving forward. Maybe you're just keeping a close eye on him. And if it's just not clicking maybe you give a little bit more time in practice and you move on to some other players during games and then you try to bring Wesley Matthews back around remember with all the stuff going on with covid-19. Happen but if Matthews isn't quite clicking not meshing as the question asked then maybe you move on and you give somebody else some more of those minutes. And again the red guy right now probably be Alex Caruso. And of course you guys know how I feel about Talen Horton Tucker as well. I still think that he's a guy who should be able to get some more opportunities there. Alif alif asman from YouTube said we'll afonso me McKinney be part of the rotation. We saw him get two minutes tonight banked in a 3 Jayson Tatum style. You guys saw that looks nice long. He's lanky but kind of like Matthews. He's figuring out the team. He's really in fact, he's newer than Matthews is cuz he wasn't there for a good part of training camp. He just slowly starting to get integrated the team may be here long way into the rotation. But so far, we haven't seen nearly enough of them to pass any kind of judgment one way or another. We just we just haven't we don't have the data to know whether or not he is a fit in the rotation or Not Dead ring vocals going to continue to kind of experiment with things and see what he's got there. Of course the Lakers it behooves them to find out if they've got something but maybe that just means garbage time minutes or if you really shows out and practice maybe Lakers start throwing them into games, but right now it looks like he's on the outside looking in. Let's talk a little bit about. Somebody said I'll take Jason Kidd over West Matthews at this point. Just throw them a jersey just throw. Hey speaking of Jersey. What did you guys think about the city Edition jerseys? How did they look sometimes in the pictures? They look a little bit down when they're actually out on the floor. For example, I didn't really like the Shaquille O'Neal inspired jerseys the one with the white lettering and the yellow Jersey from last season. I didn't like that very much just in the images of it, but it grew on me a little bit the more we saw it on the floor. What were your thoughts on the city Edition jerseys? And by the way, I've got the city Edition shirt on right now. I liked them. I thought it looked pretty good. It wasn't quite as eye-popping long as it is in the pictures though. I was actually a little bit more disappointed with it. But some people saying that saying they like them. I just thought it didn't quite pop as well, but I liked it better than a lot of teams City Anderson Jersey in like the Bucks jerseys. I didn't think those look very good lives, especially on that court that green cord with the blue. It just it didn't really go. So, I don't know. We'll see. A lot of people saying they look far fire great. Love it. Somebody's saying let's try to sign Darren Collison does to solidify the backfield? I'm assuming you mean the backcourt Miguel Carillo. Let's sign Darren Collison. So right now when I look at this lazy Rodger, I don't think the need is at point guard. I think of anything if you're going to add and eventually they will add that 15 player when you do that right now, I feel like the biggest need is a rim protector Center because that's a skill set. You don't have you saw Off the Bench you're bringing in Quinn cook. You've already got dentist router. You've got LeBron James you can turn to Talen horton-tucker to handle the point as well. Alex. Caruso can do it off. You've got a lot of guys who can do that who can handle the ball? I don't think that's the biggest need for them right now. I think the biggest need is just having that skill set of a room protecting Center and I'm not going to go down the whole path of oh, they should have signed. I should have never signed Marcus all blah blah blah blah. I know I know that is a whole rabbit hole that we can go down, but we're not going to do that at this point because again, and I was not the night to really judge Marcus. Saw by this was not the matchup for him. It wasn't. Hey. This was not the opportunity for him. It's it would be it's almost like Anyway judging Dwight Howard home based on his performance against the Houston Rockets in the playoffs when he got benched and he barely saw why will because it wasn't the match up for him the terrible matchup for Dwight and that's why Frank Vogel benched him. This was not good matchup for Marcus all I'm more curious to see what he can do against the lumbering Banks, but that being said I still think you could use a rim protecting Center and so that would be my focus and I'm sure I don't even have to look at it. I'm sure the chat is already saying the name Dewayne dedmon that that's the guy they would like the Lakers to go sign. Somebody asked me. Where is Chris Masters? She's got some family in town. So he's doing that so he took the night to spend with with family and do that sort of thing, but don't worry. He'll be back. He'll be back. He's always excited to talk Lakers basketball. By the way, did you guys see LeBron LeBron James was tremendous? But you also are bald the free-throw is that one of the most twenty-twenty things ever of what LeBron James airballing a free throw. And when does that happen? That's a DeAndre anything but yeah, it happened weird. But at least it happened in a Lakers win, and it didn't it did not hurt them. Ace of Spades 92 B from YouTube which new addition to the Lakers has fit in the best in your opinion so far. Okay, which one is fit the best I am going and I think I think we're really we're really talking about two players. There's two guys that it could be terms of who fits the best Dennis Schroder. That's one Andres hair. Oh, that's the other one. I am going to go schruder. I'm going to place order because he's given the Lakers everything that we thought he would we haven't seen much in the way of deficiencies things that there wasn't anything that surprising there wasn't anything that old man. I was really hoping shorter would be home do this and you just hasn't done it Montrezl Harrell we've seen maybe there was some hope he'd be a little bit better against some of the true bigs in the NBA but the size difference has has impacted him. We've seen them but he's also been really good and tonight. He was great. Don't get me wrong. He's been very good. But shorter has just been a little bit more seamless of a fit where you know, he's going to be a pest on defense the concerns about the shot the concerns about his defensive abilities those appear to be unfounded again, tiny sample sized. So maybe moving forward they will become issues. But for right now Dennis Schroder had been very very good and I've been impressed with him and I like the way he's getting into the paint. I like the way he's hitting the little pull up jumpers moving to his right that's been a nice shot for him. Just the way he's played overall has been a really nice addition to the team and again going back to last season. This was a skill set. They didn't have they didn't get that quick guy that could get into the paint and finish and we've seen him doing that quite a bit. I will say schruder has been the best addition but it's really close there have been some moments some Moments One of the one of the mantras offensive boards tonight where I just went. Wow, this guy is a beast. It was a look if treze instead of being six seven if Treads was 611. Like what? What's his salary? We're probably talking about a twenty-plus million a year player. We might still be talking about that next offseason. Who knows he'll be a free agent, but we're probably talking about one of the the best bigs in the NBA if he's 6 and 6:11. Right. Unfortunately, he's six seven you were a few inches taller. It'd be probably one of the best centers in the NBA. Pardon Avery sworn from Facebook friends and shrewder are playing great job every single time. I see that every time I see that connection. It just warms my heart. It's so great to see because all last season I'm jealous where we're at least I was I was young jealous that the Clippers they could bench Paul George, they could bench Kawhi Leonard and all they had to do to get offense going was run Lou Williams and Montrezl Harrell and pick-and-roll and they got instant outfits every single time. There would be a little bit crazy because last season for the Lakers and any time LeBron was on the bench. It was like this it was this struggle to create offense. I was pleased Rajon Rondo make something happened or please Alex Caruso do something out there for us. Kyle kuzma get something going. They just didn't have that offensive weapon. They can turn to And now the Lakers have their own version of it. I feel like it's just going to get better and better the connection between Treads and Schroeder is just going to continue to improve it's already looking good. But I love love love the fact Lakers now have that weapon. They've got their own version of mantras and Lou Lou Williams in Schroeder and Harrell and it's exciting. It's so exciting for the Lakers bench to have that to turn to page. I know so far. We haven't seen a ton of it, but I think moving forward it's going to be really really important and we're going to see a Lakers bench that can now keep up with opponents. Mysterious Jones can we get z-bots back? I don't think the Clippers are too in the giving mood right now, especially when it comes to the Lakers and giving them anybody so now I don't think he's your boss is coming back. Mustafa Maher from YouTube. Yes, you are. Absolutely correct res hit three jumpers. That was the other thing. I don't trust that by the way, I don't trust that. He's going to continue to hit those but if he does he's a totally different player thousands of value if you can consistently knock down that 15 20 footer Montrose has way more value as a player than as the guy who can't hit that shot and has to do all of his scoring at The Rim again tonight was great, but I don't trust it. Once we see some consistency there then hey, hopefully that becomes a thing because he will be he'll be much much tougher to stop if he can consistently knock that down. And I'm not saying he hasn't shot that in the past. It's just his efficiency hasn't been there with it. That's why you see teams playing off of him when he's going to shoot them. Okay. a good question here We've got a question for you tube says can the Lakers afford to re-sign treze next offseason tricky very tricky if they can afford to re-sign Treads. So Montrezl Harrell is here on a mid-level exception deal. That's what they've got him on. And next offseason. The Lakers won't have salary cap space. In fact, if they are too far into the tax. They might only have a taxpayer mid-level exception next season, which is like five plus million. So keeping Tres around he is a player option for next season. That might be tough. Yeah, it would be very difficult what the Lakers can do is they can offer him some raises based on the current salary they can use his early bird rights to offer him a raise but it's only in this off top of my head again. One of the salary cap barriers. I'm a little bit fuzzy but I believe they can only offer them. I say it's about 125% of his current salary which isn't a huge bump for him. He might get bigger offers elsewhere in that agency. Maybe there's some ways to make things work out. But my sense is that given the amount of cap space that's out there there. There's a decent chance that there's a bigger offer out there for them than what the Lakers can can give but we'll see this agent is Rich fall and they've been working very very well with the Lakers. Maybe there's something that they can work out maybe some type of agreement they can come to to make it work but of right now because they only have early bird rights. They don't have as full bird rights. He's only been a Laker for one season and then he has that player option. It's it's certainly a little bit dicey. It's it's less certain than say Dennis Schroder because shooter they traded for him. They have his full bird rights. They can use those to go over the cap to sign him. Not not so with Montrezl Harrell, so it's a little bit trickier there. Hermit, can the Lakers sign another max player once LeBron retires when his contract is up if they signed treze and dentist a big deals. It all depends on what the salary cap looks like at that point. I mean we're talking about this season plus two more at least of LeBron James. So we're talking about Four Seasons from now including this song. I mean, who knows what the salary cap is going to look like at that point in theory? If they had no one on their roster aside from Anthony Davis and then you bring in then you keep trying to somehow when you keep shooter. I'm sure maybe but again it depends on what the salary cap is is that it's hard to project out that far. Somebody asked me is it too early to make playoff predictions? Yes. Yes. It is too early to make playoff predictions. Oh man, people saying to Master Lock Wesley Matthews and Marcus all it's Christmas. We really want to master lock our own guys on Christmas. Come on. Miguel Carrillo from Facebook. Do you think re-signing kuzma was a good move for the Lakers considering how he hasn't really lived up to his potential. Yes. I do and I've seen okay, like John halogen Hollinger put out this piece saying that cruise my extension was terrible and then he's not worth nearly this much and da-da-da-da-da. Okay, he's missing the reality of the Laker situation and that if he walked away you can't replace him. You can't replace Kyle kuzma. Yeah, and so far kuzma improved each season now, maybe he hasn't skyrocketed taken off right the way we've seen like Brandon Ingram take off or something like that hasn't done that. But he has steadily improved each season. He's he knows the Lakers system that he's comfortable in the locker room. The guys like him the Lakers like him. They like his work ethic and he's had a great attitude on a championship team. That's already lacking consistency a little bit cuz you've brought in a lot of new PCM. It makes a lot of sense to keep him around and also you're upside here as well if he clicks with Anthony Davis moving forward. He's the same age brings what twenty-five twenty-six he's right there in Anthony Davis's time line and you want to have as many of those guys as you can to make sure that Anthony Davis has guys to play with moving forward and targeting Montrezl Harrell and a shorter players like that kcpt also in his mid-twenties. So you've Those guys coming in so I like the cruise my extension. I thought it makes sense. I thought that the money was fair. I thought that if he was a free agent, he would have gotten more money and I think the probability was fairly high that if he's a free agent next offseason. He gets paid more he gets more than what the Lakers gave him. Now. He doesn't have the opportunity that he would if say he was I don't know on the Knicks who really shoot the office much as he does on the Lakers. She doesn't have his usage rate isn't going to be nearly as high on the Lakers as it would be Elsewhere on a bad team. He could put up numbers on a bad team but he's on a winning team. And so when we say he hasn't lived up to his potential we have to remember that the opportunities for him to put up numbers weren't saying. Oh he should be, you know, a 20 and 8 player. He doesn't have the chance to do that on this Lakers team. Now what its role is his role is very different and it was also speaking of that. His role is changed every single season every season Kyle kuzma's role has changed and he's kind of adjusted to it. Pretty graceful done a nice job. No, I'm not disappointed in kuzma. I think that it was a nice move for the Lakers moving forward again. They want to retain their own guys and worse comes to worse. Worst comes to worst. He's more tradable now, I think all right. Now the extension doesn't kick in till next year but he's more tradable should things really not work out on this contract. Then you want dog wasn't as previous one because trying to match salaries is a little bit easier with a bigger contract again the value of the bang-for-the-buck that he provides is better obviously on his rookie deal, but just in terms of logistically making a great work a little bit easier to trade him on a 13 plus million dollar contract. Nice hat. Thank you. I get to rock this hat one day every year and I make sure I do it. I've been wearing this thing all day. Shane Carter, how do you feel about bringing in another point guard? I don't think they do it again. I think if they do anything you bring in a room protecting Center and that's where like we talked about how good of a job Rob pelinka did last season a perfectly put together the line up and all of those things. That's where you gotta trust them wrap the link it to recognize. Hey, look this is what we're missing right now is another Rim protecting Center and for him to figure out a way to go get it done. I think he's going to do that. Where did I get? The Hat? Robert Gonzales is asking me I was given to me years ago on Christmas and and so I've kept it since then and once a year I get to wear off my Lakers Christmas hat. You can find him snowing find him like on Amazon and stuff like that. Hey Trevor, does mantras from Ian J on YouTube. Does Montrezl Harrell remind you of Kenneth Faried? Yeah, he does a little bit similar kind of under sized energy guy that type of thing. Yeah. I can definitely sneak not just a dreads thing or anything like that. A lot more people commenting about Dewayne dedmon, totally understandable why people would be looking at him and maybe that makes sense sometime in the future right now. We'll have to wait and see we'll have to see if the Lakers really need to go out and get that piece. You know what another guy that we're not talking enough about right now Markieff Morris. I thought he played well tonight his ability to shoot the three was big for them spacing the floor 3 or 5 from 3 a.m. Like we said it last playoffs championship brought his shot went for over forty percent from three. He had only shot like 34% or so for his career. And so he said, okay, you know, maybe it's just hot shooting streak but tonight was a good shooting night for him. And that's exactly what you need that big they can space the floor for you. I thought they might even run him a little bit more just as a center because the Mavs do go so strong that it might make sense to do that. But nine points for him seven boards and fifteen minutes that is a great contribution and it's the kind of thing that's easy to overlook cuz it's only nine points, whatever you only played 15 minutes, but yep. That kind of contribution off your bench and I thought he played well, especially on the boards. He was a forced there and that's exactly what you need. That's what you need for your lineup it. So Markieff Morris, I think he deserves a bit of a shout out tonight as well as much as we're talking about Harrell and shrewder and rightfully, so and all of these other guys, I thought Markieff Morris was very very solid for the Lakers tonight, and that's that's a great thing to see People say John Henson might be an answer. He'd be an interesting fit as well as another guy. You can indeed turn to somebody asking me what is the name on flick? So if you're going to our group chat on flick, all you gotta do is leave or Lakers Nation official and the link is actually down at the bottom of all of our YouTube videos album putting it in this livestream afterwards after the show. I'll put it in there. But yeah, it's now at the bottom or in the description at the edge of the description in our YouTube videos. You can find the link there to go and find our group. It's a lot of fun been getting a lot of people coming in there talking Lakers basketball. It's been a blast. I've been going back and forth with a ton of people on there so it's fun. This is owed said can we afford from YouTube? Can we afford to keep Keith after this year? Well, he's on a minimum deal. So if he'll take another minimum deal then yes, if not, probably not dead. I do Wonder though and this is something I'll have to ask each Smith if last year picking him up off of not waivers but pick him up off the Bayou Market wage then having him this season would then qualify him for bird rights the Lakers to go over the cap something. We'll have to look at but bottom line if he's willing to keep taking minimum bills. Yes, but his brother just got four years sixty four million from the Clippers. Go Clippers. Nice job. The ice. They gave that same deal to to Luke Kennard. I don't I don't get it. I know they could similar situation the Lakers they couldn't replace them. But man that's a lot of money to spend and I think you should make the argument that Markieff Morris is just as good as Marcus. Somebody mentioned louis-style are from Facebook mentioned James Harden saying he should go to the Knicks. Let's talk about this real quick. Yeah, technically it's not Lakers, but I'm going to Master Lock somebody in just a minute. But before I do that, let's talk about James Harden cuz he wasn't in this game. So I'm not going to master lock him in this one, but Oh, man. So the story is James Harden last offseason. I'm sorry last summer got Govan, right? That's what we've heard from ESPN him across mentioned. It's got covid-19 and feels like he's now immune whether or not that's scientifically accurate wants another story, but maybe that's why he keeps doing these things keeps going down these you know these parties. The bottom line games hard, man, you've got to set a better example from the than that you can't do these things right now in the NBA. You just can't even if you're not worried about your own individual and maybe you're trying to make a statement to your team. You trying to tell your team trade me cuz I'm going to keep making problems for you. I'm going to keep this in the Limelight. I'm going to keep this as a story. I'm going to make things uncomfortable until I could trade me to try and create some urgency. Remember, he's got two years under contract. Not a lot of urgency for the Rockets to make a move right away James Harden trying to light that fire a little bit and get it. If you want to trade you talk to your team figure it out. Whatever. I'm fine with that, but going out there and flagrantly breaking the League's covid-19. That's not okay and looked at the NBA they're going to slap them on the register or whatever. And yeah, there's going to be a harshal partial punishme