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Bonus Episode 19  The Mangler (Patreon Clip)

Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came: A Podcast about Stephen King and His Books

01:23 min | 4 months ago

Bonus Episode 19 The Mangler (Patreon Clip)

"The nineteenth bonus episode for two guys to the dark tower came is live for all of our patrons what follows is an excerpt of our conversation about the short story. The main later found in. Stephen king's nightshift. There were somehow three movies. Based on the short story. What three movies if you can believe it. I don't believe it. The first one came out in the mid nineties and was directed by tobe hooper. A horror legend and it also starred robert england a horror. Legend the demon possession the happenstance. It just feels like a bad recipe in a lousy cookbook. King does a lot of detail work to let us know how exactly the victims were killed by the mangalore. Like i have a pretty decent idea of how people's arms are getting sucked into this thing. And what the outcome is of a person going through a ironing slash sheet folding machine to get the whole episode become a patron at patriotic dot com slash. Two guys dark tower.

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The Mangler 2 (2002)

Chat Sematary

28:34 min | 1 year ago

The Mangler 2 (2002)

"Hey. Everyone chat cemetery is back. Today is our first three person episode. It only took US ninety one episodes to get to this point but I am joined today by drew each and Travis Newton. Travis this is your first episode and I am so sorry. That's okay. I. Hopefully, we'll be back for something way better. I'm scheduled to do Buick eight right now. So fingers crossed. Yeah hope hopefully, that will be better I'm only like sixty pages in so I don't have a good gauge just yet but drew how're you doing today? I mean we're talking about the Mangla too. So there's a certain. Bar. That can only be reached as far as goodness but I will say you know I, I was on for the episode on the First Angler. So I have my I'm here doing my due diligence although I think it's fair to talk about that. There is no way that this was. Conceptualized to be a sequel to the main angler it was just a it had to a been another script that they slapped the Mangla name onto. Yes. I think it was one short rewrite away from being a my of Mangla thing because there's only a couple of scenes where they actually say the word. Angler otherwise, it could be anything else. Yeah I feel like from what I have been able to gather I haven't watched it just yet but. The Mangla Reborn seems to be more of a sequel than this one and. Just the fact that there are three Mangla movies, it amazes me what stories get taken from Stephen King and people decide to just run with them for adaptations. You know there are also three sometimes they come back movies and one definitely was not supposed to be as sometimes. They come back movie at all. It was one called frozen initially, and then they just totally changed the title to it and they were like we're GonNa make the Stephen King thing this definitely feels like a lawnmower man type situation year. There is more ways than. Yeah I mean yes. in more ways than one actually be like. Because I was waiting the whole movie for there to be the loosest of connections to the first Mangalore like the you know that the Jews even a name recognition like, Oh, the the name of the character Robert England play that ran the laundry presser or anything, but this is the laziest kind of sequel where. It the I mean, and that's just argument as a sequel judging this movie on its own merits it's it's appalling. That is that is one where I'm willing to bet the movie was called Graduation Day at least when it was written because that's the subtitle that appears on screen. When you actually watch the opening credits of the film this was written and directed by a guy named Michael Hamilton Right whose career I'm not terribly familiar with but I I get the sense that he's English because. So much of the structure of this film comes from English boarding schools. It's like so not American. Yeah. The whole premise was very weird because you mentioned graduation day and it's like it wasn't even graduation day. nope. Morally field trip day except the main characters are not on the field trip everybody else's it was like their geology field trip is the big to do this private academy or whatever. Gavin's here's here's here's my big kind of overall takeaway with the mainland to is that. It fails on almost every conceivable level that you could want a movie like this to fail at because first of all, like there isn't a decent character in the entire bunch. No the main character we get somebody I believe him Joe I couldn't tell whether it was jill or Joe through most of the movie. So I went with Joe. But Anyway Joe is the daughter of the head of the Newton Company which does surveillance tech, and they're forcing her to go to this stuck up private school and Joe's dad has a deal with the headmaster at the private school headmaster Brady played by land. Ricksen. And that deal is to install a whole bunch of cutting edge surveillance technology in the school. So the schools fully automated and the headmaster can control a whole lot of stuff from his office that is the sort of setup. Now, like drew said, the mango lur washing machine has nothing to do with the rest of this movie. It's IT'S It is it's something entirely different. Yeah. I was watching this and I was like, okay they've modernized it. So it's going to be this tech thing instead and. I WANNA say for like all but the last twenty minutes I had no idea what the purpose of the movie was and it's a bummer because I feel like, Lance. Henriksen is someone who is pretty recognizable and possibly the only recognizable person and those for the most part and he's just so wasted on the lack of. An entire plot. What is the purpose of the movies? So funny. Such great summation of the is like what is the purpose the IT'S An existential crisis happens at some point during everyone's viewing of the Mangalore to accurate I know for Travis. We were talking about it. I think his existential crisis moment was a a woman was going through a bunch of cabinets looking for laundry stuff or something. Yeah. She's alone in the laundry room is one of the tea I think is one of the teachers at the private school yeah. She's alone in the laundry room and she is just going through the cabinets above the Washer and dryer for like an extended close up. That does nothing it's not to build tension. It's not to imply any sort of presence she eventually is killed by think nothing like there's something. There's a blood splatter across the the Washer and Dryer, but I see what happens. I can't even remember while this. This was my I kind of breaking point with the movie because with a movie like this, if you have terrible characters which all the characters just horrific horror movie teen stereotypes. If you have that that stinks you have Lance Henriksen, but he like like you said Dan, he's being totally wasted. That's things at the very least you'd be like well, maybe we'll get some fun slasher kills, and in this moment there is like a. Some kind of like press some rolling press thing in this laundry room that catches her hair and I was like, okay. That could be a fun cool death but the low budget on the mangled to rear its head at every turn, and in this moment, the most they could do was get a close up of this press run a wig through it with a little bit a blood on it. Then, her hair color either. Right right with with the quality of the lighting and the movie how could you couldn't even tell? But. But that that was the moment where I'm like Oh man because earlier, there's some like I don't know D- Janitor or repair man guy around and these wires come out of the wall and I'm like, okay, cool. This is this is what I at least at the bare minimum for a movie like this and it. Picks up some garden shears or something and floats through a hallway towards him, and it just goes through a doorway and we hear like stab the and that's it. There's not a single good kill in the entire movie. So even by that most minimal of horror movie. kind of pleasures you're not going to get it from the Mangla to never it's It's so frustrating. It's unfortunate that this was not one of those movies where it's so bad. It's at least entertaining. This was just all bad. There are a couple moments. That threaten to be entertaining I think there's one moment that crosses the threshold. Day but it certainly, you know it certainly thanks to Lance Henriksen but we'll get entirely. Because all these. Characters they're just awful stereotypes, donors there is there's no other way to say this because this is the way the movie treats him just the Black Guy and that's his job in the movie is to be the black guy and it's super insulting and the movie even points to its own ineptitude in that regard when that character is looking at a computer screen and a message comes up saying like, don't you know will his character's names will like the Black Guy doesn't always die I and I just that that was a throw my arms up and walk away moment of like you've got you come on come on and then it drops a reference to the weakest link. Game Show. The pop cultural references in this movie are just. Like all, except for one, you know this is something that we'll have to crowded bobin vaguely to. Yeah let's at least have a little bit of build up the movie. Made me wait for it I'm GonNa make you wait for it so We haven't talked about the music yet, but the music is something that bears mentioning because it's one of the worst things about this movie it is almost entirely. Break beat music break beat is a sub genre of electric music that is defined by particular drum pattern usually. Fast Tempo half. The soundtrack. into. RAVING, ray to itself entirely all the time. I am mentally appreciate those sound effects Travis because I would not have been able to replicate that myself and it was one of those things where I I heard some of the songs that were playing and I was like Oh. No. Oh. No. The new metal song during the credits is particularly egregious as well. Yes. Well, the there's there's a great well, Travis Message Street, and he's like, oh no, they're playing a drag yellow by Rob Zombie. Trans, they couldn't even get dragged. This is the ripoff version of Dragon. Break. Beat cover version that takes the same lyrics from ROB ZOMBIES DRACULA and. Now it's totally different lyrics, but it's the exact same like lyrical structure. And I was like Oh my God this is literally like royalty free drag yellow like So I was listening just like this is the entire movie and what's worse compounded upon this is that there are so many scenes win this music happening where it is just characters walking around no drama happening the the build up to the climax, and that includes this royalty free drag has all I can call it. It is just our lead character Joe Jill. Walking down hallways for like a good two or three minutes like while this entire break beat song plays out nothing occurs it is total time killer. The movie has a kind of a structural problem with that stuff like they actually managed to escape the school like halfway through the movie and then they're like, but we have to go back and I'm like you don't. Yeah. I, think with the Mangla to it kind of went wrong from the start because it takes a while to even get into the Mangla part of things whereas with the original, it does take a little time, but it doesn't seem to take quite as much time. because. You see Joe just sort of hacking her way through stuff because of course, there's always some kid in high school who knows how to do all of these crazy things with hacking and it's never explained and you get a sense that okay. Because of who are Dat is, maybe she knows more about technology than everyone else but the technology is still very new for the time period and one looks very bad now but to your kind of like okay I guess we're just GonNa. Pay Close attention to it but they kind of imply that Lance Henriksen character has been like. Assaulting some girls or something along those lines and I was very confused because then it doesn't come into play again later there's a bogut. Randomly in the Third Act, Joe and. The other pretty much the only other significant female character in the movie are having this moment, and she's like revealing this information out of the balloon like unsustained. You know substantiated by anything else we've seen in the movie up to this point it is super random it's like what? What's wise this suddenly like and they're just randomly crying in the middle of all of this if they wanted that to be a plot point. Is hundred percent not set up at all earlier in the movie, and at least I didn't pick up on anything until they had this scene and she starts revealing like Oh you know he. Called me up to his office or something like that and I'm like Whoa. We're doing this all of a sudden as they're escaping the. The computer crazy killer school. I mean the first act wants you to know that headmaster Ray. Dean is bad but it doesn't tell you how bad. So yeah it's a bit of a shocker like the movie sort of unprompted reveals as extra wrinkle and ultimately makes Lance Henriksen into the sort of big bad at the film he becomes the embodiment of the Mangalore two point. Oh virus. The mangled two point of to your point about. You know kind of looking dated Deanna traps have found a particular affinity for certain dated Kinda Computer Tech Movies. We've done episodes on John, orgin on stuff like lawnmower man and virtuosity, and if you lean into the style of those things, they can sometimes be pretty fun. Too I, it doesn't have the budget or WANNA spend its budget in that arena. And to the tech element. Of everything. It seems really really secondary like. The movie doesn't feel concentrated thematically or even conceptually around hey, here's a fun idea what would be kind of the the the most fun. We could take this premise with because mostly the computer's just like. Locking people in freezers. and. And stuff like that. It's like that and we haven't even talked about the most baffling character in the film the French cafeteria chef. Is, he French vaguely European a European but somehow the Foreign Cafeterias Guy I don't know why that movie chose him to have any sort of significance throughout the rest of the movie. He doesn't like anybody else. I can tell you that much he. He can't stand teenagers. He's just around. And if everyone's on a field trip, why is he still there? You know there's not just some food that the kids can heat up or something you know like prepackaged meals or something it was very, very strange like who was left on campus because from what I could tell the kids who are left were all prefects. That's. Yeah I. Guess six of them. Talking in horror movie language. If you want to have this character fine, he's supposed to be the comic relief that doesn't work and to this guy has to get killed like this is a character that is primed from the second. You see him to be like, yeah. This guy's going to have some kind of ironic kitchen death lease give me. Give me anything this movie but the. Possibly French or Undetermined foreign chef. Not only doesn't get killed in the kitchen and a fun way he gets locked in a freezer, but then to this stone, kids break him out. He lives he escapes and leaves the movie at some point and it's just like, okay. Bye. Yeah. It's clear that as we get into the third act in the movie, the movie's been holding on spending much money because it needed to things. Number one, it needed the chef character to survive. So he could fly away in helicopter. So they had to rent the helicopter for the day. You know movies don't really rent helicopters much anymore. They just you know we'll have the helicopter be CGI. Anyway. The other thing that they needed that was really expensive was they had to suspend Lance Henriksen from the ceiling Chang. I Imagine Lance Henriksen. Was I. Pray he was the highest paid cast member I would helps out. There is this. kind of central hub area, the main desktop computer that. The that holds the entire school system and we've seen it a couple of times than once everything goes crazy and and Lance Henriksen is. Wired in by the mango or virus to be his real world Avatar, we return to this hub area and he comes swooping down out of the ceiling. Marionette. And I I I should have said this earlier but talking about all these pop culture references and these bad teenage characters I, I have to believe the the writer whose name Travis was. Good enough to to mention I. Do not have that information in of me. Michael. Hamilton right Michael Hamilton Right Michael Hamilton right had to have at least been thirty years old or probably older. Because all of the dialogue and this, it's like this is not how teenagers talked. This isn't how human beings talk, and then in this final moment will not the final moment. But in this climactic moment when Lance Henriksen descends from the computer heavens. We get some. Dialogue. That very nearly. Almost I mean barely almost makes the movie worth. Yeah. I got a good laugh out of it. So, there is a conversation between Henrik since character as the Mangalore now into Joe and they're talking about what The Mangalore wants basically wants to get out of the school. It's trapped in there not only does it want to get out onto the Internet and in fact, the entire world, but it also wants to start having human babies. You know and Hendrickson thinks that Joe is going to be the woman to start that off for him for some reason. And Joe Talks about was like, well, there's something I wanted to do. Or something to such effect, and he looks her and goes. Tell me what you want what you really really want. My goodness. Out, of the Zig Zig. Apparently. If you want to be her lover, you do have to get with her friends, but he's killed all her friends at this point. They're all dead except for is the bodyguard did the honky Richard Gere? Looking Guy who knows? Nobody can know with a movie like this. True. Yes. This moment like I say is almost saves the film from just the level of stupidity. In the screenwriter being like I'm gonNA write that line and it's I I? I think it's going to it's going to be. Funny and dark twisted and I'm GonNa Make Lance Henriksen Lance Henriksen. Storied Genre character. Actor. As are climactic villain quote. The spice girls I mean there's a level of brazenness to that that I have to respect. Yeah it's a great line. It's the only good line in the movie I think and dumb I'm glad I saw that but I think Well actually. I don't know if I had seen it sort of out of context without the rest of the movie I don't know if I would have laughed this hard 'cause I laughed pretty darn hard at it. Yeah. Anyway. It's time for this Mangla to get mangled. So TURNS OUT JOE has this obsession with freckles. Mandal brought patterns, and so she designs this fractional equation that always you know there's ever repeating equation that is designed basically to freeze computers so she gives that to him. And the dies and the crisis is averted and they all fly away in a helicopter Oh and Joe's dad loves her now. Yes. Just suddenly CA I do want you mentioned the mandal breath thing and I had flashbacks to when Trabzon I watched this movie called wish upon. And in wish upon which was definitely written by like a forty year old man, he's writing these teenage characters and one of the story points I don't even i. don't even think you'll remember this draft is that. The one of the connections made between the two. Lead, characters is a romantic connection, is that they're both into multi verses as a concept this is the thing that they bond i. it's like what what this nobody is. Everyone wo man you really into multi versus to, and it feels the same way with Joe Jill where she. Like whoever this person that wrote this decided like Oh mandal brought thing. Yeah that's something I'm really into so I'm going to make her really into it and then it's GonNa be this big plot point about. It it's just so bad. But what's really important is that for no. Discernible. Reason. Joel's father loves her. Like there has been big. He just comes running out of it. I thought it was going to be like an act like, oh, he's been infected by the mango virus and people are being taken over now, and this is it's escape out into whatever I don't know would this movie but that would have been more interesting. They spent whatever pittance they had for a budget. They definitely spent it on the helicopter rental instead of anything else in this movie another fun thing there is a do talking computerized face. Yasim Angler has about halfway through. That's very lawnmower man and I appreciate that as much as one can appreciate things like that. Yeah and I know when I was making this list I took the lawnmower man movie off because I knew about like the legal battle between Stephen King and the movie and getting his name taken off of it but with this. I just put it on here because I was like you know what? I'm definitely watching the first angler movie and it seems like the third one is more accessible than this. Once I was like all right I'll try to do this one and if it was going to be way too much of a hassle for all of us to watch it I was like you know maybe it's not totally necessary and I certainly feel that way after having watched it now, not totally necessary movie at all whatsoever do not feel bad if you. Have, never seen this and never see it. We were talking about this before we started recording but I want to put it on record. Is this the worst movie you've covered for chat cemetery I gave it a one star so it has to be pretty darn close. There might have been one thing that I gave a half star to, but I want to say pretty much everything has been. To Stars and above with a few exceptions, there might have been one of the sometimes they come back movies that I did is one and a half stars like I was telling you guys what I need to do as I need to go through my letterbox and put all of the Stephen King Movies and a list this way I can. Sort by ratings and then I'll be like Oh. Yes. Now I remember how bad these things work. I mean yeah. But other things have been like fun bad. This was just I don't care at all like you guys said, there was one or two laughs maybe it wasn't. overdrive bad. No, I mean if something is entertaining I think regardless of kind of context it's entertaining and you're getting a positive experience out of it and when we did our episode on on the Mangla I think I took that stance like look I Fun. Watching. This movie. Is it like Scary. No but. It's got Ted. Levine. Evil Refrigerator at one point like Robert England. Yeah it's it's and it's there's money in that movie thankfully, especially comparatively to the Mangalore too. But this was kind of the worst. Experience you can have with a movie like this where it I think it was like thirty minutes in and I told Travis like it feels like it's been double that link like I've been watching this for an hour and it has no signs of stopping and there's nothing there's so little rowers keep on rowing. Right There's there's so little to not only recommend but even highlight in the movie. Yeah. It's a waste of time. Dan Is said it was a very, not necessarily movie which is It's pretty much saying yet. So that's an wasted time. I will. I will if nothing else from this episode I will take away Deanna you going what is the purpose? This. Is the greatest realization you could have while watching the mangled two colon graduation day is what is the purpose of this and I think the answer we've come to is there is no purpose on my letterbox reveal I literally wrote does not compute and that was. That's good. Good Paul. Quote my my view if I had to write one out would say I said I got the funk in the funk is in your face. Oh Gosh that's one of the focal samples from the awful break cues. Poke be I do not want this I do not really really want this. So. Yeah to. But yes I mean as always the conversation about the mainland to was leaps and bounds more enjoyable than than the movie and thankfully mercifully shorter. I knew this was going to be a short episode by the time I got like five minutes and I was like, oh Boy. Okay I was like, oh. These guys that apology. It's okay. But. Thank you both for coming on to talk about the Angler to I know you will both be back on for separate episodes. Maybe we'll get you on together for another episode down the Line Travis want to risk the Mangla Reborn drew might be signed up for that one as well but we'll we'll just wait and see yeah yeah that's a tentative pass. Fair I'm just I did the first one. I've seen the cycle, my completed nature's like. I'M GONNA have to watch the mango reborn in for a penny drew. Yep Exactly. Exactly. Yeah. Well, I look forward to my neck's conversations with both of you. Thank you pleasure to be on same here. All right that does it for this episode of Chat Cemetery. You can support the podcast on Patriot on for a dollar a month you'll get a thank you on the show for two dollars a month I will send you a chat cemetery sticker and. Want to follow us on social media you can do so at chat cemetery on twitter instagram and facebook you could also rate and review the show that's a huge help and as always thank you for listening and we hope you enjoy the rest of your day.

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Really Awful Movies: Ep 340  Urban Legend

The Really Awful Movies Podcast

26:05 min | 2 months ago

Really Awful Movies: Ep 340 Urban Legend

"Up of the news this evening is speculation concerning the real facts behind the department of health announced spent about a radioactive spill. Supposed to have a cut yesterday at the state nuclear plant. You'll die only to live again in a young body. Then you could tell me if the operation was a success in your brain. You're listening to the really awful movies. Podcast celebration of genre cinema. Hi my name is chris. Along with jeff. We talked about movies. That aren't really awful at all horror action kung fu musicals post-apocalyptic women in prison films. Much much more from downtown toronto headquarters. Here's episode three forty of the really awful movies podcast. Urban legend Urban legend. Whoa the success of scream in the franchise. I mean the original scream. Wes craven's pomo postmodern flick Well that one may have revitalized horror at the box office. Says it was kind of sagging as a property it also did inspire a slew rather watered-down ineffectual and inferior imitators which didn't have the an ounce of the spark that made the original scream. So compelling i mean just killing off more alone in the first scene made it a pretty pretty impressive too many at the time. Now apprai- scream. It seemed not a week at the multiplex went by without another kind of weaken tepid toothless horror film foisted on the public featuring really you know teluk telegenic Hell hyper sulfur. Self-aware people and nineteen ninety eight brought us urban legend. And it's a main offender when it comes to this kind of a kind of casting it features. Well jared leto who you know a very fine actor who from dallas buyers club. And recently i saw in the reboot of bladerunner. Which i'm still trying to get my head around. It was. He was actually really good in that. In embiid of scene stealing turn urban legend also features. the guy from dawson's creek was not a dawson. It's actually joshua jackson. The canadian actor who was his friend. I guess on end. There's terror read appears in this thing as well as one of those College radio hosts. I think she hosts some kind of relationship show in urban legend. But you basically anyone. Who is anyone at. The time is in this one. However urban legend a film that really is so bad that speaking of notable people in the movie Cast member robert england. Who plays a professor professor wexler. Who's an expert in urban legend storytelling. Yon brune vaud. Bern volt who rose to success with a series of books on the topic but in his book hollywood monster. The freddie krueger actor doesn't even mention this. I mean it's possible that the guy works like has a work rate. That arrival may be vincent price. But you'd think at least in some point this film it was quite a popular. One would come up but nothing not a chapter not a remark not an aside not an image. Nothing so i mean it could be. I don't know why that would be the case but For someone who went to school at the university of toronto this one really piqued my interest as it features so many of the schools locations. But how come came to this. One and revisiting it is A very very minor imbroglio and brouhaha on twitter that. I don't even think. Jared leto really took notice of but earlier. This week. I saw that someone was following on twitter. Who had worked on the urban legend production It took umbrage with the fact that mr leto had refused to acknowledge that he'd even appeared in the nineteen ninety eight vehicle which the guy said. I believe in his tweet that at the time when leto star was on the ascent the he was really appreciative of working in it and would watch the dailies and we try and improve his performance in the film. Major leto plays j school woodward and bernstein type and that's actually a dismissive remark. One of the characters later makes about him but he a journalist. Who's trying to get to the bottom of a bunch of strange occurrences at the fictional pendelton. University in new hampshire substituted in beautifully by my alma mater One of the world's great universities in the top twenty five anyway according to the rankings. The university of toronto. So it's funny. Like leto is completely disavowed This production i always think the word disavowed. always think. Po- the expo and disavowing certain things that happened in the carolinas and whatnot. But it's weird. Because when you look at the likes of johnny depp and jennifer aniston and kevin bacon all these stars who came to fame later on after appearing in these throwaway productions. That really nothing to be ashamed about. And it's something you can really Celebrate in a way. But anyway i was thinking about this. As there is a confluence of factors that really spurred my interest in the film Legend and revisiting. It one being that. I'm journalist myself. And even though it's funny i didn't even work on my campus paper but trade journalist now covering business news but also i have a keen interest in seeing my alma mater appear on screen and toronto actually as an aside has been the backdrop to not only bunch of very good kronenbourg movies and i think edward norton is filmed the few pretty good movies up here but also some real real duds I'm thinking of things which is got to be one of the worst horror films ever made in it was filmed in scarborough which is a misbegotten. A somewhat wretched Borough of the city of toronto in the east end. It's it was described on am dp as a you know a yes. Husband who's fanatical desire but inability to father children drops him to force his wife to undergo a dangerous experiment. Which sounds terrific. But believe me. It's not and other just crap tackler. Big smoke teo lensed efforts or maybe not efforts if they'd put little effort into it was nurse three d. Yes starring model and actress paz delaware to the thing is just i mean crap tackler but makes really good use of the cities of most iconic hotel property which is the firm aunt role york but also a bunch of i think we're the trump symphony plays a bunch of other stuff. I guess saw five. I recognize some of that location. Which is when. I used to work at the canadian broadcasting corporation so they have a lot of stuff from that. Tonight is one of the effort a series that i hold in beneath contempt. Anyway because i think it occupies that sort of torture porn space that i find rather unpalatable and rather obnoxious and that was done around the same region. It's weird to think that this is well. We're the rather lengthy aside that something so trashy could be filmed adjacent to something so elevating the toronto symphony orchestra which highlights the works of mendelssohn. And brahms bach. And then you have this. Just pure directing jigsaw. Saw the of horror. I think was in the early two thousands and there's no no better example. isn't exemplification than the likes of hostile. You log roth efforts from that period. But jason xm side was also filmed there too. So yeah it's just funny so you have these three things coming together in explicable and you have your leto know who's with some some of whose work i've seen quite liked him in my so called life Tv show with claire danes. That came out in the nineties as well. But you have leto a journalist and toronto and my alma mater front and center and what you have is this fictional university in professor. Wexler is played by robert englund teaches this course and details all these accounts of these urban legends. And i think. I've mentioned it on the podcast. Before that i've been curious about why people throw sneakers kicks entitled isis together and thorough them up on power lines and actually reached out yon herald brune von the professor at utah university to actually inquire about why this is the case when i passed along erroneously to a cabdriver that the you that this is actually gang members marking their territory it's actually told a cabdriver that only to realize don't i'm an idiot has nothing to do with that and i was corrected by a professor bruno who also said. He was quite polite about if he said he had to go back to his Skiing trip than he sees. I think since retired and living a life of quiet solitude in the mountains and good on him but i should mention another thing regarding the professors of books and that they were sent to me when i was working my first book as an inspiration for something. In the mass market non-fiction world to bring up to my then publisher penguin books. So i leave through a box of books that the publishers sent me in in including bryn lawns book and i would say a lot of the famous urban legends from his book that he brought to popular attention feature prominently in the nineteen ninety. Eight film Urban legend and you have stuff like the gang ritual which is Apparently where you drive around in pitch dark and then when someone tells you to buy that you your lights are off by flicking their high beams out you. You murder them. If you're a gang member of blood or a crip for god knows one of these gangs so that one features prominently of course The aids one on the mirrors the most horrifying legend but That doesn't feature here. That would have brought this a whole new level but there's also the The the kidney urban legend which is quite a good one In which the two people meet in the bar and one member of the party wakes up in a days that they've been maybe chloroform or roof feed or something and the wake up in a bathtub full of ice and they have a scar. Apparently one of their organs has been removed. Which i think is very you know very bizarre. Because how could you get a surgeon. Who's who can capably performed such a complex six to ten hour surgical procedure and do it in some some crappy flat's bathroom. But i digress. So you have a bunch of different people at this penalty in university and have Legend about You the infamous person hiding in the backseat. So you have the ax murderer. You have the man with a hook for a hand. You have the legend of the gas station attendant with stutter. Who can't warn the driver that there's a there's somewhat hiding in the backseat. So i mean you leto as the plucky journalist investigating the the happenings. It's pretty weird. And i did again get a really really good kick out of University of toronto in its neo gothic two hundred year old architecture featuring so prominently here. It's it's a it's a star in its own right and it's a bit of a family tradition for folks in my family and my mom bunch of cousins university of toronto. And there's a coffee shop that i used to frequent called diablo's and it's still there and it's a it's featured prominently here and it's got a bit of a hogwarts of i with dark wood and you have some kind of famous names. That are etched into the etched into the panels and the popular student hanging out and a really got a kick out of the rotman school of management. Were really rich people. i guess. Further themselves and other rich people earning mba degrees and there's a pivotal scene where i believe terror reads talk radio. Campus radio character meets her demise as she hangs off a ledge in in that the faculty building is so many little spots that i recognize and victoria call edge and torontonians. We'll get a kick out of the. I guess a pivotal pool scene. That's filmed out. Where late and not so. Great mayor hails from in the west end of the city. That would be rob ford. Who for better for worse. Put the city on the map with his a jamaican patois and his smoking so I guess a larger than life figure for again better or for worse now I guess it's going to be shorter than usual. Podcast here's segue into what i learned there. There's so many many things that you can. I mean With my co author and co host. Jeff i was exchanging messages today and thinking about tweeting to get some engagement with people what they think are the worst and maybe best decades of all time in horror and to the nineties would be way way way down on my list and again a lot of that you can lay at the foot of scream into wes craven because you have all these self referential winking and i think frankly disrespectful takes on the horror genre and instead of aiming for fears you get this kind of a detachment and mocking tone. That really did a disservice for years to come and it was only until later in the twenty tens that we experienced quite a bit of a A genre i think. Resurgence in a mini golden era. While not one to match the eighties or seventies was a worthy in. Its own right. Twenty seven and twenty fifteen. We're really really stellar years in the horror genre. But the nineties was a rough time and not the worst would which again i lose to earlier. Which would be the early two thousands but it was pretty grim and one aspect of this while we're on the subject of what i learned the dawson's creek star joshua jackson. There's a scene in it where he's to put the make on one of the main characters and They're listening to the radio as this is infused with urban legend stuff. Course you have to have a make out point and the to paramore's trying to get hot and heavy now. What song should come on the radio. I don't wanna wait for love to over whatever that was from dawson's creek and and the joshua jackson character hurriedly rushes to the dial to turn it off and it's one of these just egregious yuks that really a sense thinks and soured me on this one. Despite it should be said. I think it really whizbang premise. And really dynamite cast so. It's pretty funny what they could have done with this movie with. I think tapping into the premise. That's i think a lot more interesting than typical fair that set around a college campus whether that would be the likes of The trauma films splatter university or one of our really awful movies site favorites final exam just bloody hilarious but i mean college co eds. You put them on a college campus. You have plucked off one by one when you see something like that and you see a twist and you see some kind of narrative thrust that has something just different from the typical masked intruder you're hanging out in the shadows is something you really appreciate it and i think something like happy. Death de is a wonderful example of setting film on a college campus. Doing something really really unique with it and so you don't just have a bunch of telegenic coeds dying in sequence so kudos on that property. Actually say that while the antagonists was pretty crappy. It's not really spoiler to say that. It's a someone in a mask who've co-opting the varsity team colors and mascot as a disguise but the film that is decent its own right the original and the sequel is actually pretty good too and it's actually wastes smarter than it has any right to be So what could have happened. In the case of urban legend was that they could have tapped into this cultural zeitgeist moment and really explored tapping into the stuff like bread violence encyclopedia of urban legends. Apologies this looking over to my bookshelf here. But lots of legends are brought up and another thing. I've learned was there's a music legend that is Brought up as well and it's involving the recording of love rollercoaster Which is a dynamite funk song from i believe the maybe the later half of the seventies by the funk outfit the ohio players. It's possible the red hot chili peppers covered it. But you'll love his. Who wrote a costa a killer. And apparently on that track there were allegedly screens. If someone getting shot in the studio but that's been since Subsequently debunked but it was pretty cool to have that inclusion in urban legend. And really. I mean this could have really gone somewhere different because he had all the hallmarks and all the makings of something. That could have been really really timeless. And unfortunately it really sputtered out of control toward the end. Although it did have some kind of memorable set pieces. And i gotta say i mean we just watched the acts and i was thinking about like maybe silent night bloody night. And just all this glut in the surfeit of axe murderer movies by neglected to put urban legend in that category. Because yes there's someone wielding an ax in that. In the quintessential maniac on the loose is no doubt can use that. As a horror movie weaponry showed up to our book. Death pine brel at one hundred. The weirdest horror movie weapons with a foreword by lloyd. Kaufman that we spend a few years ago. But another thing i've learned is that in. This movie is an appearance by a city. Tv news anchor and city. Tv was the The tv channel that ran sort of a transgressive fair that inspired video drome and david kronenbourg for his civic tv tv and then senior anchor. Gord martineau who many of us will love recognize in toronto. He makes a very very small appearance in this in this kind of role. I guess you'd be born to play tv journalist. A news anchor over there you go. That was pretty cool to see. This movie brought up a lot of memories not the least of which muslim the lost and misguided soul that yours truly. Christopher was i guess at the time trying to find his footing in a university and and really almost put on academic probation. Just not you know handling the difficulties. Present in life sciences after switching out from arts and university of toronto notoriously competitive hyper-competitive school. That was put on the map by developing the first pacemaker for the school's involvement in the discovery of insulin and curing diabetes effectively back in the day one hundred years ago but it the brightest minds from around the world flock to the school and boy was out out of my element and struggling and spending a lot of time. Just trying to fill out degree requirements for life sciences degree and struggling with neuroscience and zoology and just basically getting by the skin of my teeth and my ability to write. And that's that really putting me through school at the time and it was really a very very difficult place to get head and make friends because it's just so cut throat and such a big school and there's so many other things to do in downtown toronto that there's really no Varsity life to speak of whatsoever the the sports matches or poorly attended and there's really very little campus life at all but there's still a few good memories a have is is the school subdivided into individual colleges in my college happened in the uk system in a way and with the oxford and cambridge and whatnot. But my college happened to be the the of the films of the schools film department. And i have fond memories of watching the change laying and the free friday film screenings which continue to this day in his college. Which is has the lowest academic entry standards. I think it's fair to say of any of the university of toronto colleges so urban legend was interesting to revisit. And see all these at the time fresh faces and to see robert englund. Who's been in to be fair. A just a boatload of just super cheesy movies despite being a pretty decent stage actor but he his his brilliance is not really showcased in anything but The likes of of a neighbor in elm street and many of his efforts are just really bottom of the barrel stuff. Think that's it terms of what i learned but the only way you can really put scream into context to compare it with some of its what came out in the in the aftermath of that era so it really does hold up very well. I think some of its sequels possibly to but what happened later in the ninety s and then what spawned the torture porn era just to really really dark place for horror and it's nice to see that With jordan peele an office. And get out and mike flanagan and all these new filmmakers breathing life into the genre. It's really such a great space to be now and given to films prominence is not where it used to be. You can still make money. just you did. In the seventies and the exploitation tax shelter era you can make money reliably with horror properties especially with everyone in lockdown and people looking for for scares. And it's something i've been doing. Been watching an inordinate amount of horror movies lately and as set up to get my first job in the arm. Get my i. I don't know which vaccine whether tests senator pfizer but anyway star rating for urban legend. Again if you take the first thirty minutes things go on a long at a nice really nice clip and there some nice banter toward the end it. Just dissolves into just pure silliness and they keep you guessing as to who the killer could be. There's a nice little Little twist anymore. But i don't think the the the whole is greater than the sum of its parts. I think it does to be charitable. You could say it's a three. I'm going to give it probably a two and a half to five. And i think it's nostalgia. That's really informing my fondness for the film revisiting it so many years hence but it's just so just weird to see these. The doors at is graced many times in very very different period in my life and You know reading all these neuroscience studies and learning all about the brain neurotransmitters and all this stuff it was just feel like i'm in such a different head space now but i'm grateful to the education that the school afforded me and proud to be an alum that's for sure and seeing mile. Modern film is just warmed my heart to a certain extent. So maybe two and three quarters for this one going to be coming back shortly with a joint effort once jeff feels up to it and really looking forward to chatting about all things. John cinema but predominantly horror and action. And i shall talk too soon. Take care

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"Hello this is pendulum. Actually listen to the liberal hyun podcasters featuring host jordan would i could potentially enjoy the libra q. Bad as a podcast. We haven't heard yet might be might be terrible growth podcast with all right here. We go this comes to us from our good friend. Jordan maywood hamburger steamed ham holo welcome to the liberal cube. My name's tournament tonight am the hockey's ago liberty realis- this show. What is it well to put it simply. It is one in which i discuss. All the media i have consumed. I consume a metric shit ton of media because but the fuck else are you gonna do go outside. Push shah i say to that I break it up into segments You know i push a button that gets started like this movie monologue. I say sponsor like this. these movie. monologue sponsor is groundhog day. Thank you for that sponsorship movie. The first from twenty twenty unhinged. Oh probably i feel like this was a radar. If there was a radar this would have been under it. I feel like potentially stars. Russell crowe a very large and imposing russell. Crowe a scary wouldn't wanna meet him in a dark alley on many levels russell crowe after a confrontation with un with an unstable man. The chicago this movie unstable instead of unhinged. Why wouldn't you use the word unhinged instead of unstable. You know what. I'm gonna do my revision on the fly of the embassy here after a confrontation with a with an unhinged and unhinged with a unhinge Maybe that's why and unhinged censored in unstable man at an intersection a woman becomes a target of his rage Yeah he Russell crowe is just a insane person. Insane crazy person Who takes road rage to levels. Heretofore unseen Just like n-. It's almost hard to comprehend the levels of road rage to trying to basically ruin a person's life Yeah he's insane. And i it's it's it's got some a sweaty hand moments him sort of trying to run her off the road and it gets meta are not met but it gets deep to. It's it's not just sort of a surface fear. it's. I'm going to tear your life apart. One sort of brick at a time where he's like finding hair loved ones in fucking with them and yeah. It's it's definitely interesting. It reminds me a little bit of sh falling down But if was michael douglas I if he was in more insane and a more sort of instead of trying to figure out my india lima charts. So this guy would be chaotic evil for sure whereas michael douglas would be would he be neutral evil. Would he be chaotic neutral. Yeah definitely there's definitely some differences between the two but it sort of reminded me rating wise. I think i'd go four. Yeah it's It's definitely a russell is really good and scary. Just scarier period. Full stop So you know that sounds up your alley there you go. We're going to from twenty twenty one somehow thunder force. We decided to watch the misses. An i This was bad. Yeah this was so bad. It's bad Let me read the aimed. I suppose in a world where super villains are commonplace to estranged childhood best friends reunite after one devises a treatment that gives them powers to protect their city. Yes so it's like a comedy superhero. Movie i guess what you would say. I one sort of shining. Ray jason bateman is good in it and he cuts the lobster claws for hands. Let something It's just laughs. Almost non-existent story not making sense lowest common denominator sort of a movie rating wise. She's doing a one no. I think i save one's four turned off and probably should up wish i had turned off so i'm gonna go one point one. Yeah there you go that makes sense for thunder force. Really a avoid this one. This is like one of the meanest nastiest things i've ever set of a movie but the yet just really rubbed me the wrong way. Moving on to from nineteen ninety eight urban legends. This one remember this one from back in the day. A college student suspects. A series of bizarre deaths are connected to certain urban legends. This is definitely a sort of quintessential a nineteen nineties and a teen horror movie. Yeah if you've seen anything that could be described as that. This would definitely fit nicely in there. And i do say nicely because If you like that sort of movie If you have a nostalgia for that sort of movie This will definitely fit the bill rating wise. Just sort of on that note to get it out of the way. I knew like a solid four. Maybe even foreign change. Yeah this is this is a like. It's dumb fun. And i it sort of your scary. Sorry your screams. Your i know what you did last summer. These were all sort of around the same time. The kind of stopped making these a little bit. I feel like like you still get. I suppose you do there. There's just a different feel to the nineties. Once compared to a modern day like what's that one record or wreck the one with What's the what i'm thinking of worth like. A the killer is using them to social media. Allow one yeah. They're they're similar but the a certain flair to this We've got to jared leto very young journal young all of these accurate. Because it's nineteen ninety. Eight jared leto. We got a joshua jackson Robert england in their carer read the a divine. Yeah she was good. Rebecca gerhard Yes she's frigging huge back in the day. We've got the robert england. Did i mentioned We've got michael rosenbaum and robert england. Which i'm going to put together because they are two of dozens of people who have a autographed nerd kane. Now this doesn't come up in a while. But if you were to google nerd cain adventures. You would see a cane. That looks like it's got a saw handle for a while handle At various conventions usually around the toronto area. Because that's where i am. This kane is being held by nerdy celebrities autographed by them and then also in the hands of hundreds hundreds of 'cause players as i took pictures of them. Why well back in the Before times i would go to conventions and a realizing that a convention going Sort of a large portion of it involves standing in lines combined with the fact that i got an upgrade back means that having something to lean on was a wise now if that's something that I am leaning on couldn't be autographed by celebrities. Hey this is a classic. Two birds one stones situation combined with the fact that the The confused often confused. Look of 'cause players Wondering why they're holding cane and a picture as i take a picture of them You know was a delight. That's a. I will probably miss because the odds of getting back to jamming. You know hundred thousand plus people into a convention hall seems like a distant memory and one that might not happen again which is sad but also. I'm happy that had my time with the whole adventure. So you know there you go. I suppose urban legends. What's it about. Yeah you know doesn't matter moving on to from nineteen ninety-three crown hog day. Oh haven't watched this in a long time. It is for some I've heard this described as sort of the perfect movie And i can definitely see that in argument could be made for that case A weatherman finds himself inexplicably. If you don't know the bergin if you don't know what the groundhog day is about. you know. come on you've been under a rock and it's just sort of used you know what for the first time maybe ever. I don't know if this is true. I'm not gonna read the imdb if you don't know what. The movie groundhog day is about. Turn this podcast off right now and go watch groundhog day. And if you don't like it don't come back. Ooh them's not fighting words. Because i'm a lover not a fighter so just words just words starring bill. Murray we got andy mcdowell. Chris elliott steven. Toil hausky steven. Toby leschi Way back in the day. When i joined twitter whatever year. That was the early thoughts. I do believe he was the first celebrity. I tweeted at who Responded to me so you know. I was of a special place in my heart for mr steven. Toby lachey I think i. What did i tweet to him about. I think it was a boat hit. He there's a movie sort of a documentary. I guess it is called steven. Toby skis birthday. Which you know. I don't really remember what it's bert. Okay so because. I'm not going to read the description to groundhog day to. Oh i will read the description and stead from the two thousand five film stephen. Toby biloxi's birthday party on his birthday. Actor stephen sobileski shares a series of personal and professional stories. Yeah he's a very good storyteller He seemed to be the type of person. And i have one sort of seen in particular in my mind where he's at like a like maybe a small dinner party And just to the enwrapped sort of audience of those at the party as he stands and just tells a story seemingly to the great entertainment of all including us watching so Steven toby blessings birthday party. Although having watched in shit ton of years four or five out of five Groundhog day easy. Easy five hundred five. Please watch it from one. Good movie to another good movie day hot fuzz from two thousand seven skilled london police officer is transferred to small town with a dark secrets This is of course. Starring simon pegg and nick frost as it is one of the corunato films trilogy. I suppose so. You've got the shaun of the dead hot fuzz and shoot the end of the world. I forget the third one's name because it's a little bit world's end the world's end yeah pretty close This one i kinda didn't one hundred percent remember like at been long enough that i didn't remember who the quote unquote bad guy are. So that was nice to sort of relive that Which i'm surprise. I guess at the end of this and realize that i'm dumb because it was very surprising to realize that i had forgot to. The bad guy are yeah spoilers. I should say which. I'm supposed to say at the top of every show. But i kind of stopped giving shit because nobody listens to this podcast so i say what i want. How wants yes Reading wise. But i think i have to go four just because shawna. The dead is a five groundhog days as a five. And this is. It's good good combination of action in comedy Yeah of the comedy action movies. This is definitely a you know. S tear we can. We can easily say that So i would recommend hot fuzz but start with shauna the judd if you haven't seen that moving on to the final film bloom from two thousand four the terminal oh an eastern. European tourists unexpectedly finds himself in jfk airport and must take temporary residents there Of course starring tom. Hanks this fall into the category and is probably jeez. Might be the prime example. I think it may be even have used this. As an example of my sort of definition of a sunday movie a sort of sunday elise in bed sort of chill laxed movie. You're gonna wanna watch a movie like including the terminal I it just sort of really mellow and starring tom. Hanks we got catherine zeta-jones we got stanley tucci. As a one thing i forgot of the soem is how much by the end of this movie. You will hate stanley tucci. One of the most evil fucking assholes in any film in just film history yeah. I'm putting them up. They were you know. You're darth vader's and your cons and your other evil people hitler's okay. Well let's maybe not you know. Do that study also directed by steven. Spielberg which i saw the very sort of right before we turned off which i did not realize because apparently i'm done catherine zeta-jones our inner prime here. Koch beautiful Some other Familiar faces. I am sure you will see a zoe. So donna playing Sort of a airports customs person. I don't really know But the also part of her character is loving going to star trek conventions which i think is hilarious as she You know is Who are into the The star trek reboot. So you know that's a nice cool. A little unexpected was going to say nod. But it's not really not i don't think when did you wonder that one so this came into maybe it is not star trek Two thousand nine okay. Yeah let's came in two thousand four. So it's just a strange coincidence. That's interesting Yes so basically because of bureaucracy which is a weird. I could have trouble saying tom. Hanks he can't go home. He can't go into new york city He has the stay in the airport. just simple bureaucracy is just really you can boil it down An i decided to have a sort of a real. The chill list of chill the sunday so i had the idea In this is the sort of thing you do feel like in quarantine. You should do stuff like this but also just in life and in marriage Do silly things and one of the things we decided to do. idea i'm going to take full credit of it. Why not Was to have a tea party. I'm not Exactly what you would call eight tea drinker necessarily however Decided that we're going to have t we're gonna have you know your your finger sandwiches Put a little brandy in mind too. You know spice it up a little bit. We're going to watch the terminal and we're just gonna have the laziest of lying in bed sunday's and that's just what we did. And i highly recommend the combination of cac tampa tea party in the terminal I think i have to give this a five hundred five. Yeah it's a movie. Had to third or fourth watching just heartwarming and really can't say it's almost if strange like i can't say enough nice things of the terminal. It's just it's a good movie so shut up about it. Game seven game. Sponsor is groundhog day. Thank you for that sponsorship. I have a fun one here. Titanfall to you know what's interesting about this Like i was playing this and had it on my list here to talk about and then You know had beat the game in saw like a was a gamespot or a nigerian or some video or something somewhere where it was like a talking. About how for some reason suddenly titanfall to seems to be like very popular like. Oh maybe it was. Steam sales like it was like the the unexpected resurgence of titanfall to which Back in the day like. When did this come out stitch twenty. Sixteen so i think this falls into sort of an interesting game category in that it is a game that was ver- was praised. Very highly by those both who played it and critics alike but also i feel like it went under the radar little bits Which is sort of a strange combination. I can verify after having played that the it does deserve the the the love that it received back in two thousand sixteen Pick this up on steam. Obviously it was on sale for and that made explain. I think it was like half off. It was like ten bucks or something ridiculous like that And and it still looks good. Still plays amazing. Yeah i see scott some game of the year awards nominees and stuff like that. Yeah so if you're under familiar tight fall the series i suppose because there's smoke release two of them. I think i heard talk to that. Maybe there's a third one potentially bruin hopefully after having played us Kind of like a giant mech game. Although saying that is not accurate. I would say just because if you've played What are some of those old ones where like actual giant mix game. This is a game in which sometimes you are in a giant mak yet but somehow let delineation feels more accurate So you're just a dude an army and you're fighting against batty's yeah we've done it a million times now. It's in the future which we've done sometimes as well You see your commander sort of ripped from his Giant mac these mixer the twenty feet tall. So they're not. You know hundreds of feet taller. They're not like a pacific rim. Oh shit what are those called Pacific rim the giant robots calls epa. Posts spicer's. I i google this pacific like that's allowed right. I put pacific krim Strobe what's called run on a robots call jagger's. Oh yeah that weird name. J. e. g. e. r. s. Okay well. I feel disappointed by that name. I thought it was some cooler anyways. yeah so much smaller and more maneuverable bull version of that. You're sort of commander who apparently was a big fan of you dies. And then his a mech decides that while he was both sides and was given orders that you're his new pilot so he calls you sort of pilot throughout and these things are seemingly Sentient or at the very least Have the close enough to be seemingly sunshine program To the degree where by the end of the game. You in this This giant robot. That sometimes you're inside and sometimes you're fighting alongside you end up like really liking and when bad things happened to it which i'll try not to spoil too much You know you feel sad. Like i definitely felt a emotional connection to this thing that we sort of both had saved each other's lives. Probably he had saved mine more than i had saved to over the coast over the course of the game You're probably if i was to do a percent like it's not fifty fifty. I would say like. I'm thinking the percent of time you are inside this mac versus On your own like maybe twenty percent. You're inside which would sounds like maybe that's not enough. I wanna be inside this thing. You know fighting all the time but now you don't I think the ratio they actually came up with. Because of the sort of incredible things you can also do Outside of Of the The mac your beatty You actually feel naked. Say equally powerful. But i feel like if you were to spend much more time inside this just sort of you know shooting rockets and decimating the little guys as you're fighting fellow evil mex- I feel like you potentially get bored of it. So the ratio is i would say perfect that they come up with Story wise won't go into too much but you know it's a sort of classic good versus evil War infiltration all sorts of interesting stuff getting from point a to point. B is quite fun. Because you're doing a lot of wall running double jumping You you'll feel very sort of acrobatic. The weapons are cool all in all one of the best games. I've played in quite a while. And i went in with knowing it sort of reputation. I went in with high expectations but definitely expectations rating. I think i'll go five and five yet titanfall to definitely recommend especially if you pick it up for a steel like i did. Oh okay what's this button here. Where are we what's happening internet intercourse totals. Today's internet's intercourse sponsor groundhog day. Thank you for that sponsorship. All right Have a interesting one here By the name of code. Meco if you've been following on done some talk of g. Four and their return. I think last we spoke about it. focused on how kasim g had joined the team which i was very excited about We have a new member. Actually there's a couple of new members shoot. I didn't get the other girl's name Anyways a couple of new members one in particular. I wanted to focus on and i went down a bit of a rabbit. Hole with is a girl by the name of code meco now my hesitation there was the fact that a code meco is not not a real girl. I suppose you could say Or rather is fortress gives us. I sort of went into this knowing. That would be hard to explain. Okay so You can explain them. Well you know. I i used to do something similar. Not to the degree that's could has done I would stream games on twitch and On the screen you would see us sort of Where where a where i would normally be was a polar bear would sort of like move around As i moved around his head would sort of moved back and forth. His lips would move in sync with mine when i get it to work. That is Now this code meco has sort of taken this to the nth degree And she wears the person in real life the technician whereas like a suit has the sort of head contraption That points a camera at her face that sort of a a mix her facial expressions and as she talks the lips of her avatar move. Yeah okay. I think i'm explaining this. You know well as again and She's like this Sort of anime girl Living in a intimate worlds. I don't know what i'm talking about. And it's just sort of fascinating tech to see the sort of thing and i feel like we're going to see more of it in future and in fact Potentially i don't know if i've mentioned this yet. will be joining a well already have joined. But we're going to see in a couple of days actually from my perspective Playing a star trek adventures streaming on twitch and the game master is doing something not too similar to a to this where He has a avatar that we see on screen that sort of idea as he runs the game. We're not seeing the actual real person. We're seeing this avatar sort of move and mimika the the the the movement and actions and and a facial expressions of the person behind so that sort of thing i feel like we're gonna see more and more of So it's cool. It's awesome and i think what's particularly Helped with my pulling me into the rabbit. Hole of code meco is the girl who they refer to as technician Who sort of running her and created her seemingly Is actually very funny. Yeah so sort of the necessary. I would say cherry on top Because he could do this to be cool and entertaining for a while. But you know if you wanna keep my long term Interest you gotta be well interesting. Funny not just Doing what. I'm here doing right now. Which is being boring. You gotta pull in my My my my entertainment brain. God you gotta pull in my entertain brain is a sentence i just said and i feel bad for having said you've gotta pull in my entertainment brain as punishment for that horrible sentence that might be the episode title. Yep that's what i've done to myself code. Biko check her out and now that she's with a g. four Hopefully we'll see more of a sort of interesting pheonomenon Moving on to. Oh yeah that gun podcasts. With guests lauren. leftists very cool lauren. alaska's of course podcasts royalty. i would say Definitely falls into that category of Podcast guests that. No matter your podcast. If you have lauren as guest your podcast will be good. Just sort of period. Full stop So to have her on the head. Come podcast was a little unexpected. I guess she works with them. i think She what's it called newcomers. I think on had gone pretty sure anyway so it was nice to hear. Like this is a podcast. Come out guys that if you had never heard an episode and were a guest i feel like you would be just really thrown back like like like you'd have to be on the defense of the whole time like it's it's sort of unlike any. It's got a little bit of a hollywood handbook vibe in that the host Ho shit. What's his name Jeffrey james jeffrey james yeah. Antagonistic is too simple away to say how he hosts us But it is a word you could potentially use so if you had not heard and and weren't someone who like lauren could roll with the punches as well as she can Potentially would go awry. Let's say but she was great on it Fit right in in sort of a fought back a little bit. Almost you could say and Of this podcast which is turning into One of my faves just because of its. It's being so unlike a lot of things on the internet. Oh yeah i heard a description of once that was very apt So sort of improv. Like holdings improvised like they're not really going in with the sculptors there. Some games may be and I forget who said it was something along the lines of You've churn day improv. Podcast that would normally be yes and into no and here's why So yeah sort of apt in. I didn't explain it well. But i am not good at this clearly. Clearly moving onto the final item up forbids elaine. Up here resident evil playthrough yes yes It's kind of interesting Last resident evil resident evil seven because these games are close scary. I can't sort of play them. I can but like. I get sweaty. You know heart's pumping and it doesn't necessarily feel good as shits pop out at me. So what i realized with resident evil so and it seemed to work. Well i watched. This was back in the day. I watched beauty pie play that i watched his playthrough of it and It was good. It was interesting. Because because i do love the these games and love the lore of these games I it was a nice way to experience it without that sort of visceral feeling sick from friggin fear. Yeah it's it's not quite that level but you know You know puts puts a filter between me and the the fear. Let's say And then eventually. Because i had seen him do that when a resident evil seven was on sale. One time on a steam. I purchased an plates are and i think because i had had that first experience with it. was sort of the that filtered experience. I was able to play through it and although there was a few jump scares Overall it was much less of a sweaty experience. Let's say so. I decided that the going to attempt a similar thing With a excuse me atlanta pierces playthrough. She doesn't quite finished it yet. But she's chugging along and she's also a entertainment watch both were just a game play because she knows games in the know some of the behind the scenes stuff so thou come up from time to time which is cool like explaining One part in particular was interesting. There was like a small pond that had fish in it and The was like a yellow rope going into the pond sort of attached to a pole. That doesn't really matter but in the game. Yellow sort of indicates subtly where your player can go So like a yellow box will be able to be broken. A yellow ladder means you can climb up to this area So she sort of explained that this rope into this pond likely means that people were bypassing it not realizing they could go in and get these fish so the developers you know. Put a yellow rope just sort of on the ground willy nilly seemingly but the fact that it goes into the pond is a visual indication. 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GSMC SciFi Podcast Episode 104: Disenchantment, The Goldbergs, and Star Wars Resistance Ep 3

GSMC SciFi Podcast

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GSMC SciFi Podcast Episode 104: Disenchantment, The Goldbergs, and Star Wars Resistance Ep 3

"Golden State media concepts side podcast. Together, we dive into the world scifi science fiction from episodes of Star Trek Star Wars to the resident in all the heart of you science-fiction movie from the backdoors, marvel or DC, Golden State media concepts. Sifi pipe cats you'll never foot. Get signed stick the same again. Hello, everybody. This is Jay bringing you some more really cool exciting scifi news. So Matt Groening is the name that I think should be pretty well known by this point. You know, he is done these Simpson's. God literally forever. It's been on for Lois. Thirty something years now and counting and going strong. I don't believe it's been canceled anytime soon. Now I'm one of those fans where like Simpson's for a while I watch anymore. Not really know, only really watched the trio so hers anymore. I just haven't for a very long time now. He has show, well, he was around the time used in the show came out called futurama, which I really, really, really liked, by the way. I think it's a great show on or four seasons. I own all four, you know movies, and I own all four seasons on comedy central. So of course like most fans when this show got cancelled the first most like, well, dang it, I really liked that show on when he did the four movies like this is awesome. It's great to see these characters all in action again and kind of go on new adventures. And then when I heard it was going to Comey central lake many fans. I was very, very excited, but sadly, for some reason this is. It's a show that just doesn't seem to last more than four seasons in most places, and eventually on the four season on comedy central it got cancelled again. So this husband counseled, not once, not twice, but three times down, like I said, Matt Groening has been doing this Simpson's for like thirty something seasons. Now, I don't think it's going anywhere in the near future. I don't think anyway could be wrong, but it doesn't seem that way. He also did the life is hell comic series, which are number different books out for that. I've read them in the past knows younger and a while ago he announced a new show. He is doing called dis enchantment. Now, remember of the Simpsons takes place in premature in modern times. Futurama took place in the past. So as one of the first teasers for the show said naturally, let's go to the pass next. Why not that sounds a great idea? So this folk this show, basically focuses on takes to the kingdom of dreamland. And where, you know, there's magic and magical creatures and a being Princess being is the main character, she's kind of a hard drinking. You know, Princess, who doesn't really want to, you know, be get married and be a Princess. She wants to be more than that. So she's not your average Princess, wrath the bat. She has a friend L foe who is an elf who you know, is kind of an, you know, an outcast misfit, probably better term. And then there's Lucy, which is just a little demon. And these, these are the three main friends of the show, they gone all kinds of crazy adventures in dreamland. It reminds me it's very reminiscent of future. The sensory of the characters are in perfect. You know, the, the world is kind of imperfect. There's some crazy things going on in it. And there's a lot of really good middle humor here. You know, there's good jabs that game thrones or some good jobs that like the Lord of the rings I was very excited I heard this show is coming out, and I was lucky to get to watch the first seven episodes, eventually. The whole season. And I really, really liked this show. I can't say it was perfect. It had a few little bumps along the way. But overall, I really, really like this show and how the season ended was very, very interesting. And it left me very curious. Okay. Where's this Shogo next now until recently, all we knew was that, okay? We have, you know, season one, which is ten episodes in season two, which ten episodes, and that's it. That's all we knew so far. Now, luckily, we got news reason that changes all that. So and this had only about a week or so ago. So this is still kind of fresh news and being that. I'm a fan of this show. I decide to bring it on here for you is disenchantment is now at you been renewed for technically three more seasons. So that means there's the first season, the first episodes that are already on net flicks there's. Going to be a season, two of ten more episodes next year on Netflix. There's also now going to be a season three in twenty twenty and the season four in twenty twenty one. Now, I don't know about you, but I heard this wonderful. That's a really good sign for show. I think this happened to number cartoon shows examples are puzzle tangled. The series is one example where you know the show got picked up for a second season before its first season. Alright even aired big hero, six seriously. The same thing happened got picked up for a second season before the first even aired duck tales, this happened twice where it got as to season order before season. One even air to now truly gotten a season three order before season, you know, to tent cleared, so this isn't uncommon for cartoon shows lately, especially for like streaming services like Netflix. The like be pretty quick about. Okay. Hey, there is going to be another season. You know. So that fans know that, hey this show is in gone. It's, it's still going on strong. Right. And I have heard mixed things about this show. I've heard some people really like it some people aren't as big a fans about it. But like I said me, I really enjoyed this show when I heard, this news, it was like that, that is, it's really really cool news now. It's going to be like a season a year pretty much. So there's going to be a little weight between seasons. There has, of course, been no release date of win in those years. Okay. To those nineteen sometime. We're going to get season to two thousand twenty sometime we're gonna get a season three and two thousand twenty one some time ago season four they're all going to be on net flicks. Matt Groening's going to be behind them all as we saw in the Fergie's, and he brings back like John D'amoto, and, like Billy west and some other characters, you know, voice like in supporting characters in this show out. Imagine all the other, you know voice actors who come back for the next season. And yeah, this is, I think, like. A good sign for the show. And I'm really excited for this because I don't like sometimes with these shows, you know, one two seasons. Always enough. It just isn't. And it looks like senses something that hasn't really been done before. I think it's totally possible. And it makes sense to do more seasons. Because you know what there's so much tone this world this world of magic this world mystery this, you know, this ragtag group of misfits, you know, has definitely more ventures going. If you've watched season, one, you know exactly what I mean. Because how that ends like man what's going to happen next? What's going to happen to be next for that matter? I mean I am going to spoil it 'cause it's been out for a while. So if you haven't watched it cover years now is a great time it. So basically, happens is L fo-, somehow dies beans, mom that was turned into a statue because she was supposedly poisoned poison was that she meant for her father in Houston returned to a statue. So being brings her mom back, her mom. Creates all kind of havoc interns, most of the people of dreamland to stone at least at the castle like, and then she goes, she goes away with her mom on this ship of strange looking creatures to. We're not really sure where I think she said some new land, so we're going to go. That's how like you know, the season one ended, and that's probably season two is going to start. So is gonna come back. We're not really sure Lucius still there with the king, who's one of the few people in at least in the castle who are not turned to stone. He loses his crown. So he's kind of peeved about that. And I think he still thinks Lucy is a cat. I don't think any of them realize that, hey, Lucy is a demon even though there were episodes, Reno Lucy possessed people, I wanna see even at one point being might have been possessed, but somehow still, oh, it's a really cool can catch. Sure to cat, if you say so, you know, and just of how season one went down. I just I I'm very curious. I wanna know more. I definitely want to know when she's into. Coming out, you know, sooner than later, great. But we'll see. I'm sure they're in the process making this now in fall, I know they may be in the process making all the seasons right now for all. I know because I think that as far as I know recording takes while anyway. So, yes, this is some really, really big disenchantment news. It means that, you know, we're getting double the seasons. We thought we were going to get this is almost as cool as when we got the news that, hey Castellanos getting a season two. And now and this is just rumor at this point, don't quote me on this yet, but there's been rumblings. There may be a season three for Cassini as well, which if so, I really hope so. But I am looking forward to more season this show. Definitely wanna see what's going to happen next. This is really, really great news. So I just had to bring this here and not much is known really this point except that. Hey, they're doing it. So again, when Moore gets known about the next season and what's going to happen next. 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This is Jay bringing more scifi news for you. So again with being a low close to Halloween decide to bring another Halloween episode of show that I like to this to this podcast to this episode and this is show that I don't know if you could Nestle say it Sifi, but I think it's fair because there's a lot of Saif elements in there. Right. So in another show that all the enough, I resisted, it first, and this is the Sean little behind them this show. I resisted I it's the goldbergs I actually got to meet Adam Goldberg interview, him Wendi mcclendon, Kevin Smith directed a few episodes of this, and it's a show that basically takes place in the nineteen eighties. So there's of course, huge amount of nineteen minutes diligent this show. There really is. They hadn't said we're weird came in all, you know, eighties weird out, which was really, really cool. They've had some really cool eighties guest stars thrown in there. They really have ended basically, I think it has to. It follows or it's loosely based on Adam Goldberg's life when he was a kid. He did a lot of home movies and recordings of his family. And so it's kind of based on the show itself. Now mind, you he doesn't have a sister Erica. He has a brother. Eric, he told me that when he when I met him a few years ago at wonder con and this is a show that yeah I didn't wanna watch it. I, I tried to resist it. I again, how they sister to this show's, really awesome. It's really great you'd love it. You have to check it out for whatever. Weird reason again. Like I resist resist Tigers refused watch this show, and I finally sat in Washington, like why did I resist to watch this show? This is a really cool show. This is a really awesome show. And so something this show is done for. I want to say at least a few seasons now is they like to do like, you know, either like, they'd like to hell we episodes. They really enjoy doing and they've done before some like shows based on movies of the time they did wine on the crazy kid. They did one on Batman. They've done a number of them over the years. This show, I think is on its fifth or sixth season. Right at blue times, fifth season and this show got an order for at least one more season after this. When so it's another really popular show to show an ABC, and I'm so I decided to talk about an episode that I think it was really cool in concept and it brings Robert England to the mix, and this show is called episode is called Mr. knife, Yan's. So it's a Halloween episode at this point, you know, erica's off in college. I think she might have dropped at this point is I'm a little behind. I think that came up on there and you know Adam is older. He's a junior senior at this point. I want to say he's a yeah, he's around there junior senior, and we at at least on this episode don't remember in the past, if we got to see Jackie's family, which Jackie as the girl that he is. It's girlfriend now. She's very sick. To him in, you know, nerdy interests and things like that last season. She was portrayed by Rohan Blanchard. And for some reason, I noticed watching this again a little behind. She's not Jack anymore. It's someone else which I thought was a little weird little strange, but moving on. And so what this episode has to do with is, you know, like course, Beverly Goldberg still thinks Adam is her, you know, little, little baby, you know, even though he's almost a man at this point. Right. And they go to like it's not I don't think it was blockbuster, but something blockbuster like to rent movies, and Jackie's with them. And she says, you know, let's just like we'll just rent, you know, my parents have is rent nightmare on elm street, which he's never seen before. And, you know, his mom, of course, like no, it's too scary nightmares. You know, and she goes now you'll be fine. We'll watch it and Adam Globes like you know what? You're right. I will be fine. I'm gonna be okay, I'll watch this and I have no problems. And of course, surpr-. Price surprise eight freaks them out. He's scared by it. And he does have a few nightmares as the absurd progresses. You know, he gets so freaked out. He actually like, just starts drinking jolt. I think it's jolt cola or volt cola. He he drinks that and he doesn't sleep for days and days, because he knows you're gonna have FREDDY Kruger nightmares. And what this up Assode brings in is that, you know, Beverly is really mad that, like Jackie's parents let you know, Adam watch this movie. How dare they? And that's not bad enough though. It goes deeper to where Jackie's dad at U shows him fan Goria, and he gets to see, you know, like how the movie was made, and that, hey, Freddie, is really just an actor, and it actually kinda helps him get over, you know, his fear and stop having dream stuff of nightmares. Right. And this is what really peeves Beverly, how dare you, you know, make my kid better that's impossible. I'm his mom, only I can make them better so anti causes a little feud. Between Adams, parents and Jackie's parents so chunk of the episode that is going on where, you know, because like because his, his dad doesn't like that Jackie's dad, he thinks they're just kinda hippies and he doesn't like that. He and at the same time, you know, the Jackie's parents don't like you know how they are there to, you know, constricting there to like a strict and, you know, and they wanna to do things a certain way where, you know, Jackie's parents, more relaxed a little bit more chilled out about things. So there's some good moments, you know, of trying to get the two of them apart from each other, and trying to work things out there trying to, you know, rip adamant Jackie apart. And of course, that's not gonna happen. But they think it's going to happen. There's at you really cool scene in this episode, I relate, where Beverly tries to watch the movie, and she actually like, you know, kind of has night about Freddie, but it doesn't go away, Freddie plans, you know, like, and it was really kind of cool to see, like Robert England. Nd in the Freddie, you know, cost him again and in the mask, and there's moments where he goes this kind of not what I'm used to. They need to leave. This is not for me. So it's kind of funny to see, like, you know, him kind of get flipped for liveries like, well, what's going on here? But, you know why, why are you not scared of me? Why are you not all freaked out? What what's happening? I don't understand. And at the same, there's also another story on this episode where, you know, Jeff, which is Erica 's boyfriend really wants to do like some coming couples costume, and she doesn't want to do that anymore because she just doesn't think it's necessary and he wants to be, you know, oats and she wants to be, he's gonna have her be halls, but it's like a box of halls. And he's like Quaker Oats. And so there's that going on. And then there's a moment where she comes to, you know, high school and realizes hanging. She's big person campus. People think she's okwu because, hey, you went to high school in the CMO grown up. And this is really awesome. There's that so plot going on at the same time and at the and as they abso- is progressing, you know, she finds out Hainault it may be like, you know. Things are going on here, then okay with my life, and her in Jeff kinda get stronger. They almost break up, but they work things out. And yeah, it's it was a really cool episode. I think I need to catch up on this season. I'm not too far behind him a little behind from last season two. So I have a little bit catching up to do, but yeah, it was another really good Halloween episode was like I said it was really closely, Robert England comeback and do this role. Again, I think I had heard him say in an interview, or something that he would be okay doing other Freddie, Krueger should they do. Other one I don't know. I wouldn't say, yes, do another freak Krueger. Because honestly, I haven't really watched any of the only one I watched was Freddie versus Jason. That is the. Only thing with FREDDY Krueger I've really watched in, of course, besides this episode now. But yeah it's a good. I wing sewed good Halloween. Episodes of fun wine. There's some cool moments there it's got a really nice ending as most of these episodes still. And it's again it's a little weird that they recast Jackie I really like Roan Blanchard. But the person who was Jackie now I won't say she's bad, either. I won't it was I, I guess I didn't expect it. I was like why you know, watching, and I was like, oh, wow. That's, that's Jackie now that because I remember seeing pictures going, what happened to Jackie. Jackie in Adam break up like he did with Megan. Like man, I hope the heck not because I would kind of suck. But that's not what happened. So yeah, this is available now. Like I said, you can watch this on demand believe you can watch it on the, you know, ABC go, I think is a websites. You can watch these episodes on there. And I would personally highly recommend it, so, yeah, I thought it was another really good. Really funny Halloween episode yourselves. Another short little break. And we won't be back. Back with more scifi news in a moment. Tired of searching, the vast jungle of podcasts. Now listen close. And here this out, there's a podcast network that covers just about everything that you've been searching, the Golden State media concepts podcast network, Piz here. Nothing less than podcast bliss with endless hours of podcast covered from news, sports, music, fashion, looking entertainment, fantasy football and so much more still stop lurking around and go straight out to the Golden State media concepts podcast network, guaranteed to fill that podcast is whatever it may be. Visit us at WWW dot Jesus. Mc podcast dot com. Follow us on Facebook and Twitter and download us on itunes soundcloud, and Google play. Hello, everybody. This is Jay coming back with some more Sifi new. So the last bit of news, I have for you to night, and I've talked about the first few episodes of this show and I said I'd probably talk about future episodes. So that's exactly what I'm doing. And if you've listened to this podcast, I've been doing it all, you know that. I am pretty big Star Wars fan. I really am and imagine and probably jump into three Bitta Star Wars news. But I'm going to get the main one I which is so I watched another up to Star Wars resistance, and it's the third episode there's only been a total of five or six episodes, so far. So not a whole lot of episodes. And so this episode that I I'm going to talk to you about it's called fuel for the fire. So what's happening on this episode is I guess Kasim nutshell. You know is working for this team and you know he's being worked. Too hard and he feels like life is too tough. Faint doesn't ever. Get go on breaks or have fun, or really anything like that. He just relates this work, work work, and more work. You know, he's never doing anything, right? He's just you know, he doesn't know he doesn't know he's doing. And so he's kind of, like, you know, little tired of working for eager and along comes a new team, you know, Ruckle in who has a new little team. And he started hanging out with them a little bit. He starts talking to them. He seemed to get along better with them. He thinks rocklin is a really cool. Great guy, ruckman voiced by Elijah wood, by the way on this episode. And so it seems like you know, caz is thinking of leaving years team and working for this team because they have more fun. They seem to have a better time. They seem to make more money. He's making his own racer. So he thinks it's really cool. That, hey, no. You're doing that. And it looks really cool and I'd love to help out with that. But of course. In normal style of this show, so far Rutland doesn't seem to be who he appears to be in the beginning. And he tries to pressure cast to take some rare, hyper fuel that sin in years office, so, you know, he's doing with that quandary. He's like, I guess, are we really going to do this, and they try to sneak into his office, they never really been in before in the process. Caz, does learn one or two things about your that he didn't know which was kind of interesting. And of course, he, you know, the hybrid fuel gets taken not to his knowledge, and as the episode comes to a close, you know, the guy tries to like ruck Lynn tries to put into his ship and evenings edge in the next raise really what it does is almost make frigging thing blow up. And even though caz saves ruck lens, life ruckman isn't really that grateful about it. So he may have at you may. Made a an new enemy instead of an ally. Like you originally thought and again, you know what this show? I don't know. I'm still not that impressed with it. I mean the animation looking little bit better, but I still just can't stand how the faces look they look really weird and strangely drawn. And, and again, maybe just because, you know, with Star Wars clone wars and Star Wars rebels. It was three D animation. And it just seems like I'm not really like rooting for the characters much yet. I don't really feel much for the characters yet. And I guess, just most the characters aren't really that strong Cazes, and that strong of character so far, you know year and his team are kinda all right. But not too strong either and I haven't I'm still not gonna write this show off. But I'm just losing interest. It's like it's not that amazing of show, so far. It just really isn't. I mean, yes. Wendelin Chrissy coming in captain fazah here. Their Oscar Isaac's came in on the pilot, you know, so, yeah, there's those cool little. Cameos. They're just like. I don't know. I just don't really you know, care about it much, not really. I just, I'm not that impressed with that, you know, like where with previous shows, I'm definitely have been impressed. That so to other things of Star Wars news, I'm gonna bring up really quick one. That's good. That's good news and make sense. And well, there's one more thing I guess, so, you know, like a Disney owns Lucas film now, and they had a big plan of always different movies are the, you know, they done episodes seven and eight they're gonna do nine they did. Rogue one the did solo. They've, they, they had a number of other solo projects planned as far as, like, you know, basing on one character in one of those films that were planned was, they were going to do above offend movie, which I heard that I'm like, I don't know if that's a good idea. Don't they should do that? I don't know if it's going to go over well, and so there was news that came out just recently that the. Movie has been cancelled some fans are probably bummed with some fans like man. That's a shame me. I'm not one of those fans. No, I'm like good. You know, I'm glad it was canceled because it probably wasn't going to do as well as they thought it wouldn't. That's just the reality. You know, like it. He's like Boba fett is not a bad characters that you're really strong character. And as far as I've heard the books, you know, there's a lot that goes on there after return the jet. Right. Right. But at the same time as it would be possible to make a home movie on it, and what has remembered as well. Disney is starting to back off a little bit from older. You know proposed projects because they didn't it turns out that a solo didn't as was hoped. It would have talked on here in the past. I didn't have a problem with solo. I thought Sola was a good movie but it just didn't hit the numbers. I guess, Disney hoped it would, you know, I think Disney you're going to do a stand alone movie. Do one of one. I think that would be great. I think to go really, really well now at. The same time this Boba fett news, isn't the end of the world for two reasons. One we are getting a mandatory in getting that, so that's really close can be a live action show. That's going to be on the Disney streaming service. John Faro's directing it. So like, yeah, we don't get fed, but we still do get manned to Laurie. And it may be a new manned laureate. Maybe may learn we've never seen before. Or maybe it isn't midler. We've seen before, again, not a whole lot is known about this show, but it's not the end of the world at this event movies happening. It doesn't mean you know that well, no Mormon Lauren anything. No, it doesn't mean that at the same time, remember that we are also going to be getting, we're getting a there's another season of clone wars coming, which against the show. I need to watch an chance to sit down and do it. But I've heard good things about it. So we are getting another season of that. So, and there's still I believe, to my knowledge. Other stars prior products are still happening. Like I believe to the writers of game. Thrones are still doing their trilogy. I'm not sure if Ryan Johnson still doing his trilogy. I don't know about that. And so there's still like star worst of coming. I don't think like you know, the pump the brakes entirely this kind of going, okay. Yes. To this noted that. Yes this. No. That that's what's happening. And I don't think that's a bad idea, because they started strong with their limbs, meet rogue wine surprised me. Absolutely. I was like, man, they're gonna do us a movie about, you know, one little event, and that's it. And it's I, I didn't have hope for it, but. It did really, really well. I thought it was an amazing movie. So it's not like you know, they like they've had they've had their ups and downs. But most of the time, it's been ups now if you've listened on here before I still think class was very disappointing. But you know what that was just me some fan number fans were in that same boat. But I'm yeah. So as far as it goes to that, that's really the Star Wars news, we have right now again, we learn more, but Mandel oriented difficult to bring it on here and I don't even there's a release. It has just released it yet assist gonna come to the Disney streaming service sometime in the near future. And like I said, I'm not writing off a star assistance yet, but I think I am Saudi getting close because I'm just not that impressed with that. I mean it's just it it's strange because like the Dave felonious has done the previous Star Wars film shows he's done the previous star was cartoons. And you know what? They've been really good cartoons. I mean they just have. So I don't know what happened with this. When I'm not sure. And hopefully hopefully, you know my you know. Fears and issues get quelched it with future episodes, 'cause that can happen. The shows can start off a little bumpy. But doesn't mean it's going to stay that way. So, yeah, that's all I have to say about fuel for the fire at this point. And I believe that show airs on Disney channel on Sundays. So that's when it airs at this point, and I think it staying there for the moment, I think it was originally supposed to be on Disney St. but I'm guessing that change. So that's all I have for scifi news. Few for this episode. Hope you enjoyed and we're all the cool stuff. I brought to you and have yourself a wonderful today, and we'll be sure to be back real soon. With more scifi news. You've been listening to the Golden State media concepts Sifi podcast part of the Golden State media concepts podcast network. You can find this show and others like it at WWW dot Jesus. Mc podcast dot com. Download our podcast on itunes. Stitcher. Soundcloud, Google play just type in GS MC, to find all the shows from the Golden State media concepts podcast network from movies to music from sports, to entertainment, and even weird news. 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GSMC SciFi Podcast Episode 74: Disenchantment, The Goldbergs and Star Wars

GSMC SciFi Podcast

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GSMC SciFi Podcast Episode 74: Disenchantment, The Goldbergs and Star Wars

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So Matt Groening is a name that I think should be pretty well known by this point. You know, he is done these Simpson's. God literally forever. It's been on for like thirty something years now and counting and going strong. I don't believe it's mainly cancelled anytime soon. Now, I'm one of those fans where like Simpson's for a while. I watch anymore. Not really no don't even really watch the tree SO hers anymore. I just haven't for a very long time. Now, he does show. Well, he was like around the time used in the show came out called futurama, which I really really really liked by the way, I think it's a great show on or four seasons. I own all four, you know, movies and I own all four seasons on comedy central. So of course, like most fans when this show got cancelled the first time, I was like well, dang it. I really liked that show when they did the four movies. Like, this is awesome. It's great to see these characters all in action again and kind of some gone new adventures. And then when I heard it was going to call me central lake many fans, I was very very excited. But sadly for some reason this is. It's a show that just doesn't seem to last more than four seasons in most places and eventually on the four season on comedy central. It got cancelled again. So this has been counseled not once not twice but three times down. Like, I said Matt Groening has been doing this Simpson's for like thirty something seasons now, and I don't think it's going anywhere in the near future. I don't think any way I could be wrong. But it doesn't seem that way. Hilo? So did the life is hell comic series, which are number different books out for that. I've read them in the past his younger and a while ago. He announced a new show he is doing called disenchantment. Now, remember of the Simpsons takes place in pretty much in modern times futurama took place in the past. So as one of the first teasers for the show said naturally, let's go to the past next. Why not that sounds like a great idea? So this folk this show, basically focuses on takes everybody to the kingdom of dreamland. And where you know, there's magic magical creatures and being Princess being is the main character she's in a kind of a hard drinking. You know, Princess who doesn't really want to be get married and be a Princess. She wants to be more than that. So she's not your average Princess raft. The bat she has a friend L foe. Who is an elf who you know is kind of an outcast and misfit probably better term. And then there's Lucy, which is just a little demon. And these these are the three main friends of the show, they gone all kinds of crazy adventures in dreamland. It reminds me it's very reminiscent of future on the sensory know the characters are in perfect. You know, the like the world is kind of imperfect. There's some crazy things going on in it. And there's a lot of really good medieval humor here. You know? There's good jabs that game. Thrones. There's some good jabs at like the Lord of the rings. I was very excited. I heard this show is coming out. And I was lucky to get to watch the first seven episodes an eventually. The whole season. And I really really like the show. I can't say it was perfect. It had a few little bumps along the way. But overall, I really really like this show and how the season ended was very very interesting, and it left me, very curious. Okay. Where's this Shogo? Go next now until recently all we knew was that. Okay. We have you know, season one which is ten episodes in season two, which is ten episodes. And that's it. That's all we knew so far. Now. Luckily, we got news recent that changes all that. So and this had only about a week or so ago, so this is still kind of fresh news. And being that I'm a fan of this show. I decide to bring it on here for you is disenchantment is now at you already been renewed for technically three more seasons. So that means there's the first season the first episodes that are already on net flicks. There's. Going to be a season two of ten more episodes next year on net flicks. There's also now going to be a season three in twenty twenty. And then a season four in twenty twenty one. Now, I don't know about you. But I heard this unlike wonderful that's a really good sign for show. I think this has happened to number cartoon children's examples are puzzle. A tangled this series is one example where you know, the show got picked up for a second season before its first season. Alright even aired big hero six a series of the same thing happening got picked up for a second season before the first season even aired. Duck tales has had this happened twice. Where it got as to season order before season one even air to now truly gotten a season. Three order before season. You know to tent cleared. So this isn't uncommon for cartoon shows lately, especially for like streaming services like Netflix. They usually like be pretty quick about. Okay. Hey, there is going to be another season. You know? So that fans know that hey, this show is in gone. It's it's still going on strong. Right. And I have heard mixed things about this show. I've heard some people really like it. Some people aren't as big a fans about it. But like, I said me, I really enjoyed this show. When I heard this news, it was like that. Like that is it's really really cool news. Now, it's going to be like a season a year pretty much. So there's going to be a little weight between seasons. There has of course, been no release date of win in those years. Just okay. To those nineteen some time we're going to get into season two two thousand twenty some time. We're going to get a season three and two thousand twenty one some time ago season four they're all going to be a net flicks. Matt Groening's going to be behind them all as we saw in the Fergie's, and he brings back like John Demongeot, and like Billy west and some other characters, you know, voice like in a supporting characters in this show out. Imagine all the other, you know, voice actors who come back for the next season. And yeah, this is I think like. A good sign for the show, and I'm really excited for this. Because I don't like sometimes with these shows, you know, one two seasons isn't always enough. It just isn't. And it looks like sense. This is something that hasn't really been done before. I think it's totally possible. And it makes sense to do more seasons because you know, what there's so much telling this world that this world of magic this world of mystery this, you know, this ragtag group of misfits, you know, has definitely more ventures going if you've watched season one, you know, exactly what I mean. Because how that ends like man what's going to happen next. What's what's going to happen to be next for that matter? I mean, I I am going to spoil it 'cause it's been out for a while. So if you haven't watched it cover years now is a great time. So basically happens is L fo- somehow dies beans mom that was turned into a statue. Because she was supposedly poisoned poison was actually meant for her father and Houston returned to a statue. So being brings her mom back her mom. Creates all kind of havoc and turns most of the people of dreamland to stone at least at the castle. Like, and then she goes, she goes away with her mom, I on this ship of strange looking creatures to. We're not really sure where I think she said some new land. So we're going to go. That's how like you know, the season one ended and that's probably season two is going to start. So is gonna come back. We're not really sure Lucy is still there with the king who's one of the few people in at least in the castle who are not turned to stone. He loses his crown. So he's kind of peeved about that. And I think he still thinks Lucy is a cat. I don't think any of them realize that hey, Lucy is a demon. Even though there were episodes Reno Lucy possessed people, I wanna see even at one point being might've been possessed, but somehow still, oh, it's a really cool cat. Sure to cat if you say, so you know, and just of how season one went down. I I just I I'm very curious. I want to know more. I definitely want to know in season two. Coming out, you know, sooner than later, be great. But we'll see I'm sure they're in the process of making this now, and for all I know they may be in the process making all the seasons right now for all. I know because I think that as far as I know recording takes awhile anyway. So yes, this is some really really big disenchantment news. It means that you know, we're getting double the seasons. We thought we were going to get this is almost as close when we got the news that hey Castellini. I was getting a season two. And now, and this is just rumor at this point. So don't quote me on this yet, but there's been rumblings there may be a season three for Calvin as well, which if so I really hope so but I am looking forward to more season to this show. I definitely want to see what's going to happen next. This is really really great news. So I just had to bring this here and not much is known really at this point except that hey, they're doing it. So again when Moore gets known about the next season, and what's going to happen next. I will gladly bring it here to all of you. You can bet on that. So we're gonna take ourselves a short little break right now. And we'll be back in a few moments with more scifi news. Wanna find out what movies to go see and check out GSM see movie podcast? It's your ticket to the latest movies. Whether it's a new blockbuster event, romantic comedy or action. This show has got it all covered they talk. Some what to go see? Now, don't bother what's hot on Netflix and everything in between. That's GSM SM. See podcasts dot com back slash movie. Dash podcast when it's all about the movies. It has to be this new show. Don't forget to like him on Facebook and follow them on Twitter. Visit GS MC podcasts dot com. For more info. Hello, everybody. This is Jay bringing more scifi news for you. So again with being a low close to Halloween, I decide to bring another Halloween episode of a show that I like to this to this podcast to this episode. And this is a show that I don't know if you could necessarily say it Sifi, but I think it's fair because there's a lot of Saif elements in there. Right. So it's another show that oddly enough, I resisted it first. And this is the Sean a little behind them. This is a show. I resisted, I it's the goldbergs. I actually got to meet Adam Goldberg interview him Wendi mcclendon Kevin Smith was directed. A few episodes of this. And it's a show that basically takes place in the nineteen eighties. So there's of course, a huge amount of nine thousand nine hundred nostalgia this show there really is. They had an episode where weird Al came in. All you know, eighties weird out, which was really really cool. They've had some really cool. Eighties guest stars thrown in there. They really have. And it basically I think it has to it follows or it's loosely based on Adam Goldberg's life when he was a kid. He did a lot of home, movies and recordings of his family. And so it's kind of based on the show itself. Now mind, you he doesn't have a sister Erica, he has a brother Eric he told me that when he when I met him a few years ago at wonder con, and this is a show that yeah, I didn't want to watch it. I I tried to resist it. I again, I have a sister to like, this show's really awesome. It's really great. You'd love it. You have to check it out for whatever weird reason. Again, I was like I resist resist stivers hysteria fused watch this show. And I finally sat in Washington. Like, why did I resist to watch this show? This is a really cool show. This is a really awesome show. And so something this show has done for I want to say at least a few seasons. Now is they like to do like, you know, either like they'd like to Halloween episodes. They really enjoy doing. And they've done before some like shows based on movies at the time. They did wind on the cruddy. Kid. They did one on Batman. They've done a number of them over the years is when this show I think is on its fifth or sixth season right now blues on his fifth season. And this show got an order for least one more season after this one. So it's another really popular show. It's a show on ABC. And so I decided to talk about an episode that I think it was really cool in concept, and it brings Robert England to the mix and this show is called episode is called Mr. Nike Hans. So it's a Halloween episode at this point, you know, erica's off in college. I think she might have dropped at this point is I'm a little behind. But I think that came up on there. And you know, Adam is older. He's like a junior senior at this point. I want to say he's as I gaze around their junior senior. And we at at least on this episode outnumber in the past if we got to see Jackie's family, which Jackie is the girl that he. He is it's now she's very similar to him in, you know, nerdy interests and things like that last season. She was portrayed by Rohan Blanchard. And for some reason I noticed watching this again, I'm a little behind. She's not Jack anymore. It's someone else which I thought was a little weird little strange, but moving on and. So what this episode acid do with is. You know, like a course Beverly Goldberg still thinks that Adam is her, you know, little little baby. You know, even though he's almost demand at this point. Right. And they go to like, it's not I don't think it was blockbuster. But something blockbuster like to rent movies and Jackie's with them. And she says, you know, let's just like we'll just rent. You know, my parents have is rent nightmare on elm street, which he's never seen before. And, you know, his mom, of course, like, no. It's too scary. Nightmares? You know, and she goes now, you'll be final watch it and Adam Globes. Like, you know, what you're right. I will be fine. I'm going to be okay. I'll watch this. I've no problems. And of course, surprise surprise, eight freaks them out. He's scared by it. And he does have a few nightmares as the progresses. You know? He gets so freaked out. He actually like just starts drinking jolt. I think it's jolt cola or volt cola. He he drinks that. And he doesn't sleep for days and days because he. Knows you're going to have free Krueger nightmares. And what this brings in is that, you know, Beverly is really mad that like Jackie's parents let, you know, Adam watch this movie. How dare they? And if that's not bad enough, though, it goes deeper to where Jackie's dad at she shows him fan Goria, and he gets to see you know, like how the movie was made. And that hey, Freddie is really just an actor. And it actually kinda helps him get over, you know, his fear and stop having dreams. Stop having nightmares. Right. And this is what really peeves Beverly like, how dare you? You know, make my kid better. That's impossible. I'm his mom only. I can make them better. So anti causes a little feud between Adams, parents and Jackie's parents so chunk of the episode that is going on where you know, because like because his his dad doesn't like that Jackie's dad like he thinks they're just kinda hippies and he doesn't like that. He. And at the same time, you know, the Jackie's parents don't like, you know, how they are there to, you know, constricting there to like a strict, and, you know, and they want to do things at certain way where you know, Jackie's. Parents little more relaxed a little bit more chilled out about things. So there's some good moments, you know, of trying to get the two of them apart from each other and trying to work things out there trying to, you know, rip adamant Jackie apart. And of course, that's not gonna happen. But they think it's going to happen. There's at you really cool scene in this episode. I relate to where Beverly tries to watch the movie, and she actually like, you know, kind of has a nightmare about, Freddie. But it doesn't go away. Freddie plans. You know, like, and it was really kind of cool to see like, you know, Robert England in the, Freddie, you know, cost him again and in the mask and there's moments where he goes. Ooh. This kind of not what I'm used to that. They need to leave. This is not for me. So it was kind of funny to see like, you know, him kind of get flipped for lead like well what's going on here? But I, you know, why why are you not scared to me? Why are you not all freaked out? What what's happening? I don't understand. And at the same. There's also another story on this episode where you know, Jeff, which is Erica 's boyfriend really wants to do like some comic couples costume in. She doesn't want to do that anymore because she just doesn't think it's necessary, and he wants to be you know, oats, and she wants to be he's gonna have her be halls, but it's like a box of halls, and he's like Quaker Oats. And so is that going on? And then there's a moment where she comes to, you know, high school and realizes, hey, you know, she's this big person on campus. People think she's oh cool because hey, no. You went to high school, and the CMO grown up, and this is really awesome. There's that. So plot going on at the same time. And at the end as they abso- is progressing. You know, she finds out Hainault. It may be like, you know, things are going on here, then okay with my life and her in Jeff kinda get stronger, they almost break up, but they work things out. And yeah, it was a really cool episode. I think I need to catch up on this season. I'm not too far behind. I think I'm a little behind from last season two. So I have a little bit catching up to do. But. Yeah. It was another really good Halloween episode. Ill was like, I said it was really close. He Robert England come back and do this role. Again. I think I had heard him say in an interview or something that he would be okay. Doing other, Freddie. Krueger me. I should they do nother one. I don't know. I wouldn't say, yes. Do another Freddie Krueger. Because honestly, I haven't really watched any of the only one I watched was Freddie versus Jason. That is the. Only thing with FREDDY Krueger, and I've really watched in of course, besides this episode now, but yeah, it's a good outline how sowed a good Halloween episode. It's a fun wine. There's some cool moments there. It's got a really nice ending as mostly episodes still. And it's again, it's a little weird that they recast Jackie. I really like ruin Blanchard, but the person who was Jackie now. I won't say she's bad either. I won't it was I I guess I didn't expect it. I was like why gonna watching and I was like. Oh, wow. That's that's Jackie now. That's because I remember seeing pictures going what happened to Jackie Jackie and Adam break-up like he did with Megan. And like, man, I hope the heck not because that would kinda suck. But that's not what happened. So. Yeah. This is available now. Like, I said you can watch this on demand. And I believe you can watch it on the, you know, ABC go, I think is a website. So you can watch these episodes on there, and I would personally highly recommend it. So yeah, I thought it was another really good really funny. Halloween. Episode yourselves another short little break, and we won't be back. Back with more scifi news in a moment. Tired of searching, the vast jumble of podcasts. Now. Listen close. And here this out. There's a podcast network that covers just about everything that you've been searching, the Golden State media concepts podcast network is here nothing less than cast bliss with unless powers of podcast covered from news sports, music fashion, looking entertainment fantasy football so much more. So stop flirted around go straight out to the Golden State media concepts podcast network, guaranteed to fill that podcast is whatever it may be. Visit WWW dot GS MC podcast dot com. Follow us on Facebook and Twitter and download us on cloud and Google play. Hello, everybody. This is Jay coming back with some more Sifi new. So the last bit of news I have for you to night, and I've talked about the first few episodes of this show. And I said, I'd probably talk about future episodes. So that's exactly what I'm doing. And if you've listened to this podcast, I've been doing it all you know, that I am a pretty big Star Wars fan. I really am. And a matching gonna probably jump into three bits Star Wars news. But I'm going to get in the main one I which is so I watched another episode of Star Wars resistance, and it's the third episode, and there's only been like a total of five or six episodes, so far so not a whole lot of episodes. And so this episode that I I'm going to talk to you about it's called fuel for the fire. So what's happening on this episode is I guess Kasim nut show, you know, is working for this team. And you know, he's being worked. To hard. And he feels like life is too faint doesn't ever get to go on breaks or have fun or really anything like that? He just really gets this work, work work and more work. You know, he's never doing anything. Right. He's just you know, he doesn't know he doesn't know what he's doing. And so he's kind of like, you know, little tired of working for eager. And along comes a new team. You know Rutland who has a new little team. And he started hanging out with them a little bit. He starts talking to them. You seemed to get along better with them. He thinks rocklin is a really cool. Great guy ruckman voiced by Elijah wood, by the way on this episode. And so it seems like you know, caz is thinking of leaving eager team and working for this team because they have more fun. They seem to have a better time. They seem to make more money. He's making his own racers. So he thinks it's really cool that hey, no, you're doing that. And it looks really cool, and I love to help out with that. But of course. In normal style of this show. So far Rutland doesn't seem to be who he appears to be in the beginning. And he tries to pressure cast to take some rare hyper fuel that sin in years office. So you know, he's doing with that quandary. He's like, I guess are we really going to do this and they try to sneak into his office. They never really been in before in the process caz. Does learn one or two things about Yeager that he didn't know it was kind of interesting. And of course, he, you know, the hybrid fuel gets taken not to his knowledge. And as the episode comes to a close, you know, the guy tries to like ruck Rutland tries to put into his ship. And he thinks his edge in the next race. Really? What it does is almost make frigging thing blow up and even though caz saves ruck Lynn's life ruckman isn't really that grateful about it. So he may have at you may. Made a an a new enemy instead of an ally. Like, he Ridley thought, and again, you know, what this show. I don't know. I'm still not that impressed with it. I mean, the animations looking a little bit better. But I still just can't stand the faces. Look, they look really weird and strangely drawn. And and again, maybe it's just because you know, with Star Wars clone wars and Star Wars rebels. It was three D animation. And it just seems like I'm not really like rooting for the characters much yet. I don't really feel much for the characters yet. And I guess just most the characters aren't really that strong caz. Isn't that strong of a character? So far, you know y-y-you're and his team are kinda all right, but not really strong either. And I haven't I'm still not going to write this show off. But I'm just losing interest. And it's like it's not that amazing of show, so far it just really isn't. I mean. Yes, Wayland Chrissy coming in as captain Fatima bit here. Their Oscar Isaac's came in on the pilot. You know, so yeah, there's those cool little. Cameos? They're just like. I don't know. I'm just like, I just don't really, you know care about it much. Not really, I just I'm not that impressed with it. You know like where with previous shows. I'm definitely have been impressed that so to other things have Star Wars news. I'm going to bring up really quick one. That's good. That's good news and make sense. And well, there's one more than I guess. So, you know, like, a Disney owns Lucasfilm now, and they had a big plan of all these different movies. Are they you know, they've done episodes seven and eight they're gonna do nine. They did rogue one. They did solo. They've they they had a number of other solo projects planned as far as like, you know, basing on one character in one of those films that were planned was they were gonna do a Bubba effet movie, which I heard that. I'm like, I don't know if that's a good idea. Don't they should do that. I don't know if it's going to go over well and so. There was news that came out just recently that the movie has been cancelled some fans are probably bummed with some fans. Like, man. That's a shame me. I'm not one of those fans. Now, I'm like good. You know, I'm glad it was canceled because it probably wasn't going to do as well as they thought it wouldn't. That's just the reality. You know like it. He's like Boba fett is not a bad characters that you're really strong character. And as far as I've heard in the books, you know, there's a lot that goes on there after return the jet, right, right? But at the same time as they would it be possible to make a home movie on it. And what has to be remembered as well? Disney is starting to back off a little bit from all their proposed projects because they didn't it turns out that a solo didn't does as it hoped. It would I talked on here in the past. I didn't have a problem with solo solo was a good movie. But it just didn't hit the numbers. I guess Disney hoped. It would you know, I think Disney for going to do on a standalone movie do one of OB. One. I think that would be great. I think it'd go really really well now at the same time this Boba fett news isn't the end of the world for two reasons. One we are getting Mandal orien- getting that. So that's really close can be a live action show. That's going to be on the Disney streaming service. John father rose, directing it. So like, yeah. We don't get Bubba fete. But we still do get manned delorean's, and it may be a new mandolin. Maybe may learn we've never seen before. Or maybe it isn't midler we've seen before again, not a whole lot is known about this show. But it's not the end of the world that this event movies in happening. It doesn't mean he know that. Well, no, more men Laurien anything. No, it doesn't mean that at the same time. Remember that we are also going to be getting we're getting a there's another season of clone wars coming which against the show. I need to watch. I have had chance to sit down and do it. But I've heard good things about it. So we are getting another season of that. So and there's still I believe to my knowledge other Star Wars prior products are still happening. Like, I believe to the writers of game of thrones are still doing their trilogy. I'm not sure if Ryan Johnson still doing his trilogy. I don't know about that. And so there's still like Star Wars stuff coming. I don't think like, you know, they pump the brakes entirely this kind of going. Okay. Yes. To this. No to that. Yes. This no that that's what's happening. And I don't think that's a bad idea because they started strong with their Saint Louis homes me rogue wind surprised me. Absolutely. I was like man, they're going to do us a movie about you know, one little event, and that's it. And it's I I didn't have hoped for it. But it did really really. Well, I thought it was an amazing movie. So it's not like, you know, they like they've had they've had their ups and downs. But most of the time it's been ups. Now, if you've listened on here before I still think class jet, I was very disappointing. But you know, what that was just me some fan a low number of fans are in that same boat. But yeah, so as far as it goes to that that's really the Star Wars news. We have right now. Again, we learn more, but Mandel oriented. Going to bring it on here. And I don't even there's a release it has just released it yet going to come to the Disney streaming service sometime in the near future. And like I said, I'm not writing off a star assistance yet. But I think I am sounded getting close because I'm just not that impressed with that. I mean, it's just it. It's strange because like the Dave felonious has done the previous Star Wars film shows. He's done the previous Star Wars cartoons. And you know, what they've been really good cartoons. I mean, they just have. So I don't know what happened with this one. I'm not sure. And hopefully, hopefully, you know, my, you know, fears and issues get quelched with future episodes 'cause that can't happen. Whether shows can start off a little bumpy. But doesn't mean it's going to stay that way. So yeah, that's all I have to say about fuel for the fire at this point. And I believe that show airs on Disney channel on Sundays. So that's when it airs at this point. And I think it staying there for the moment, I think it was originally supposed to be on Disney XT, but I'm guessing that change. So that's all I have for scifi news for you for this episode. I hope you enjoyed and we're all the cool stuff. I brought to you and have yourself a wonderful rest of the day. And we'll be sure to be back real soon with more fi news. You've been listening to the Golden State media concepts Sifi podcast part of the Golden State media concepts podcast network. You can find this show and others like it, WWW dot g MC podcast dot com. Download our podcast on itunes, Stitcher. 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3.10: The Boys are in the 'Burgh

Balls! A Supernatural Podcast

52:11 min | 5 months ago

3.10: The Boys are in the 'Burgh

"Are we ready as you trump. I'm ready okay. Natural broadcast lizzy and missy. Hi liz mess. How are you. I'm good how are you. I'm good just running around doing things and stuff and things being all busy like nothing says busy like i'm working and i'm eating my dinner while we do the podcast because i gotta work late in the night to go pick up stuff very costly. Because i have a photo shoot tomorrow. Causley has not done. And i picked up shift picked up a shift tomorrow morning to before the though. I really don't have time to do anything. So yeah so you're super busy in. I'm just sitting here. Like i went to a baby shower today. That's all i did. But i know you can't see me but i put makeup on today. I look fabulous. I'm sure you look beautiful. You look beautiful without makeup is just accentuating your natural beauty. You are still asleep. At keeper around someone sam slick so i don't know if you saw or not but i did It'll pull on twitter and on instagram stories. Just about if our friends wanted to see more of our our beautiful faces it was it was split. Okay you know. That's how i feel every morning. Do i wanna see my fifty percent. Yes fifty percent. No exactly The people at instagram wanna see us one hundred percent. Yes we wanna see your beautiful faces. And i put the two different you how they do the two different like yes or no one was. You're smiling faces in one with stick to the pod bitches So instagram loves us. They want they want to see. More of us of at twitter was sixty seven. Percents stick to the pod bitches in a thirty three percent smiling faces out granted. Only three people voted so it's startling faces on instagram and podcast on twitter. Exactly we're going to have to split all right. We'll do it for you guys because that's what you guys want exactly. I just thought it was funny. It hurt a little bit. I and i i think it's like oh man people really don't wanna see us I'd be nervous gonna break the aesthetic of knowing what we actually look like. He now maybe like we know that voices. Not at your face exactly they. The the people went twitter. Would it keep the mystery. Apparently they won't be showing up to the hunter happy hour. I guess i'll do for you. Guys keep the mystery alive. had my face. I posted that one day on instagram. And i used my my emoji for my iphone. You could see me. It was just a character face so that was still mysterious wonderful. Because i feel like that creates more mystery extra mystery. Because you're like. Oh my god does harm emoji. Really look like her or are they lying. Yeah at like our bitmojis jar. Bitmojis really look like this us. Twitter will never know. Apparently 'cause i mean. I try to keep up with it. But there was definitely a timer. Still had red haired. I had long since gone blonde again. I am so obsessed with my bit. Moji emoji that. Whenever i have a curly hair day is my hair is super curly. Straighten all the time. Five a curly hair day. I will go in and change my bitmojis just in case they have to send one. So it's accurate. I even one time. Change my clothes on my bitmojis day. So was up to up to date. No like i i make slipping and that's how it stays. I'm horrible at that. But as we as we in the beginning you have a bunch of shit to do. I sit here and have time to fuck with my emoji. You know but speaking of hundred happy hour. That is this coming thursday at seven pm on instagram. Live because instagram wants to see our faces and also the easiest to use ended actually worked yuccas. Twitter live is stupid. Who made that shit people who don't wanna see both of our faces true man. It's fine twitter. Didn't wanna see us anyway so exactly a few twitter in the aa. I have an alcoholic beverage. Do you alcohol beverage. If you don't you should get one though. I definitely have to go with my green beans and potatoes and beet loaf. It'd be a long night match meatloaf in green beans made last night having leftovers right now. I'm jealous by off dogs. We have like no food mouse. And like i'll instacart thing that. I never got around to it. So that'll happen tomorrow. The insta parted with food. It bs one hundred happy hour Yeah oh so. The cocktail recipe is on twitter instagram. They're both posted on instagram. I think it's in The actual posted minutes saved under the announcement section Twitter it's actually pinned to our page in Liz made the heat of the moment. Cocktail is the next episode. Not today the next episode. We're going to talk about the comes out. After the hunter happy hour is mystery spot. Yes and i wanted to give you guys some a little spicy something fiery for your valentine's day so you can make fear valentine but what's episode. We're talking about today. We're talking about season three episode ten dream a little dream of me and this aired february seventh two thousand eight and takes place in pittsburgh pennsylvania. Exactly although i think it's really funny. Because it's like university of westmoreland. I'll talk about that. Okay not thing. We'll we'll get into that because when they originally started when i watch episode when they originally started talking about pittsburgh boy and then they said the university and i was like so the university of pittsburgh yeah now and a little wall deco art house. Like university of westmoreland not not a thing. Okay was excited but now i'm confused. I like the fact that like they're in our hometown at nothing is our hometown. Meanwhile they're in the middle of michigan and boom. There's my childhood town exactly exactly. Yeah how does that happen. I'm so confused. But okay supernatural. Go with you on this one. But there wasn't even like a shot of the city. No like they couldn't have found. Some overhead lakeland tunnels. Exactly just some be footage of like a building you know like steel building the tallest building in pittsburgh. There's nothing in my mind. Like what hospital would bobby b. in because he was pen or st margaret's like we're going aga his. So where's that hotels downtown pittsburgh or like. Did he come to now. He's in westmoreland and they're basically on the outskirts they're not actually in pittsburgh so then it's westmoreland. Pa not pittsburgh pa. But now i'm confused. Please clarify like. Where is this aviary motel with this bird motif on the north side. Is it by the aviary new. It's the best kept secrets of pittsburgh. Aviary motel where. Rick see back on that. How shit yeah. We're was he the on me to get into my my synopsis. Yes please tell me what dream a little dream of me is about dreamy. Little pittsburgh osam confronts dean about his lack of concern over his own fate. He's interrupted by a call from a hospital in pittsburgh explaining that bobby has mysteriously fallen into a coma trapped within a nightmare. Bobby is hiding from a mysterious woman in his home. The brother searched. Bobby's motel room in find a newspaper article about a doctor who suffered a sleep related death dean tracks down jeremy. A young man who was part of a secret sleep study conducted by the doctor unable to dream after being brutally hit in the head with a baseball bat by his father. Jeremy reveals the experiment allowed him to dream by drinking. A yellow t. The dream scared him so much that he dropped out of the study. Same later explains it. A plant known as african dream root allows a person to enter manipulate others dreams. Which by the way freaky like someone. Just come into your shit. Unlike that one bit walking destroyed dream walking which is i. Just don't like that. Thought he believes someone killed the doctor in this manner in is now targeting bobby acquiring the From bella salmon dean rescued bobby from his demonic possessed wife whom he was forced to kill years earlier same attacked by germany in the dream. But they all awaken. When bobby takes control sam and dean later use the dream route to confront. Jeremy but become separated dean. I is lisa declaring her love for him in his then faced by demonic version of himself that comments on his feelings of worthlessness the dream dean taunts the real dean saying that he cannot escape from his fate reminds him that the exposure to hell transform him into a demon as dean begins to fight his d'appel ganger. Sam finds jeremy in summons a dream version of jeremy's father after terrify. Jeremy is directed in sam. Kills him with a baseball bat. The brothers awakened from their dream. Only to find that bella has stolen the colt from them as the brothers. Prepare to leave to hunt. her down. deed admits he does not want to die. That was heart wrenching You know. I mean it was kind of heart wrenching. Because i can't so last episode. Obviously ruby and dean had a little heart to heart and dean had his first real glimpse into what he was getting himself into in. Sam didn't obviously no so. Dean was starting already have this realization and like seeing that when when sam was talking about it originally in the car. The dean's facial expressions. Oh god it hurts. It hurts so bad hurt so bad. Poor guy her soul man. I thought that sam sex was funny. I thought Post sales scream was funny. I was just like what he couldn't stand up and like when she and i was just like sitting there going. Cw you're okay now. That i'm older. I'm like ooh. okay. I know exactly what he's doing. He's hiding his little because he had a dream. He's like a minute. He starts pushing his crotch and then i left in them stretching it out like. Oh we know what's happening. We also was laughing so hard in the juxtaposition of real life of. Here's what happened to the dream. But here's what's going on like when she goes to take off your jacket and cuddly koreans over. Yeah he's like staring at her. Like oh my god is happening. Is she really going to be wearing like that. Whatever she's wearing that slip or whatever and then his faith and nothing happens and then the after he finally cooled himself down and bell already leading by bella. I love the dean. What does your. He's like what is wrong with you. Like sam is acting like an awkward teenage boy who got caught. Notice that a dean had a sweet flip phone episode. I think i actually had that phone at will. Did he did have a very useful flip. Very suites them. This further your fisher fisher fisher fish. I refresh casa. Erotica is mentioned again. It was like oh. You're just forboding. Okay i thought the hotel was like nay in this i did that. I thought it was really sad. When dean i sees Oh my god you just her name. And i forget isa lisa. I'm like lauria girl. You know ben's mom. Then thomas ben you know. Ben's mom dad mom and they're having a cute little picnic. Lisa won't point. We have an hour before. Ben's practices done yet. I like how like deans into. And then he sees sam coming over and he's of never had this before that's really attain. We obviously don't know what transpires once sits down for the picnic. But that's pretty tame for dean to have that kind of dream. Like a like a lovey dream. Yeah and i also find it weird that as we go on and we go into weird dream sequences at that kind of into a thing of like what they see as a normalcy with in a relationship. Yeah and also you'd think that later on once. Jeremy comes in and he thinks he's got sam on the ropes and he's gonna kill him in his own dream. Freddie krueger style. You'd think that he would have realized that. Sam also took the african dream root. Because he's in there thinking that he's that sam just fell asleep all willy nilly until sam disley flip it on. Its head looks at it goes at. You're in my dream now bitch daddy issues. Yeah i did find a weird though that you had to drink their hair league s you have some part of them. I guess that's better than other things you could think of. But you put out. Bobby's hair it's like you have to mix it and drink. So here's okay. This is where it gets kind of confusing. Because obviously they're dreaming and they're inside. Bobby's dream right. But if they're inside. Bobby's during than how does jeremy have control over sam. That's what i didn't get one jeremy's all high and mighty about. He controls the dream. I don't know that's a good question. I didn't think about that because obviously they're not in jeremy's during because jeremy's awake so it's not like bobby took some jeremy stuff because obviously jeremy was the one. That tricked bobby in having a beer and then obviously dean to have a beer. So he'll be able to jump into either of their dreams but he had nothing of sam's and if they all have the same abilities within the dream then why does jeremy ottesen have trump card And he just stay fell asleep. And just as like. So trained and dream walking strolled. On over into bobby's dream without taking african dream root on. Oh hey he's a good deeds year outside after i locked the door or maybe because they're both in dean's dream it. Maybe you can meet other people who took the dream rootin- people dreams because you know. Stay up in. Sam took dean. Teheran is in danger. Dream in that. Obviously jeremy's dean stream rather than such a mediterranean allegata kit. My head hurts right now. I also love the and how cranky dean got after like he's not even it's almost like he was death he couldn't even think through screaming so loud he was so mad. Come on. i feel like he'd be way more like definitely agitated and irritated but not screaming and definitely a lot tired. Yeah at which point like you should be letting sam drive i get. The heat. isn't necessarily like sam driving baby but safety wise bro. Come again you're gonna wreck the car and then what's going to happen and that's your fault and you did that baby. Nobody else's while the you and save offered and he thought he was being safe. It's all on you dean. Do you have to say jensen when he was doing like dean in demanding Like that whole interaction between that. I thought it was awesome. Got chills as his acting in this. Because it's it's two different characters the same person but two different characters. You know like demon. Dean was all like strong and rebel. Rebel than like dean was trying to be tough but he was still vulnerable He had the human part of him. There yeah i. I thought it was a well acted scene. And we also get to see a little insight into bobby. Yeah the little bit. Bobby's background yeah. We find out that you know everybody kind of gets into hun hunting. Because they lost someone they loved. Because bob even says like have to get into it somehow. Everybody's got their reasons. Yeah and he find out because he stabbed his wife obviously possessed and he didn't know at the time how to save her or to do anything about demons. Think about it unless you have the knowledge of it. You just see something like that and not my wife. We don't even know what transpired of the demon possessing her. Tried to kill. Bobby bobby literally did it in self-defence right yeah. We won't find out for a while and so we literally left with o okay. Yeah like we're just gonna touch on it and then make you think you wonder what happens and that broke my heart to and bobby just felt like he should be killed by her because he deserved it. I know music. Just leave her to leave her alone with me. I deserve it. Yeah routed on myself. Bobby also could not stop singing the star after watching this episode. Yeah and then. Even even then i'm just sitting there like working on work working on my cost like Knows stop it stop. Stop it. But i thought this was a sweet sad episode before we get into kind of a lighter yet really serious episode because mystery spot takes a turn as you say half later like later inning. It's later because you're just like okay. This is kind of funny okay. This is ridiculous this is all. Yeah and then it does it flips. It gets dark and you're like. I don't remember that part early and that's how i was but we'll talk about that. Yes but i thought this was a a good sad introverted episode. I like how. Bobby brought up Sam psychic stuff. We haven't talked about psychic stuff for how long now that's true. And like is he still psychic thing as like a. Maybe maybe that is it that there's no real trump card in the dream. But because sam is like he was able to really create dad because e do we know was jeremy like obviously jeremy knows for whatever reason because he can apparently also remind Yours your fears in like what you regret To make but my question is gonna get so meta is. Is it really jeremy. Doing it or is it. The african dream root because african dream root kind of lets you dig deeper into yourself. And maybe it's facing that party your psyche that you don't want to visit. Which is bobby's first wife. Who he killed dean facing the demon inside that he's going to be come. Yeah and because sam is during that he doesn't really have to deal with that but because he has his psychic abilities because of the demon blood he's able to kind of create and control dreams maybe does episodes just so deep like for cancer into some real shit now. Yes but that's that's all. I really thought about it. I liked it. I thought this it's one of the episodes. I forgot about. Yeah and i turns out. I really liked. I liked it too. Like i said. I really like the dean talking to mundane that whole thing like you got to see a little bit more. Bobby's life even though it was a bad part of his life be still got a little more insight into his character And obviously because. I'm a huge freddie krueger fan. This episode was definitely worried down my alley because it's terrifying. It's the fact that i was always at. I loved freddie krueger and hated freddie krueger as time and he was one of my favorites. Is that you don't escape dreaming. You have to fall asleep science time and once and you're also extremely vulnerable lawyer sleeping because one you're unconscious or anything can happen to you outside of that dream in your actual waking body but you're also completely vulnerable in your dream right and now the idea that somebody can have a part of your essence and not only get in your dream but control your dream. yeah scary that some scary ish right there. No dice thank you okay. I got some tiddly been. Give me some tiddly bits. I'm ready ready for the bit. So tiddly ready freddy. Oh i did. I did okay. I'm going to tell us he's trying to climb up in my lap. That's this is intense. Because she wants to hear the to leave it she she really wants to get closer to the microphone so she can hear the tidbits and definitely drink mitee right now. The title of this episode is from a nineteen thirty one song with the same name that was popularized by the mamas. And papas in nineteen. Sixty eight I don't know if you noticed. But the starburst clock made a comeback in the hotel room. Classic classic starburst clock classic clock in the next episode Another favorite while hanging appears. But we'll get This is the only time that actress. Elizabeth merlo Who plays Karen bobby's wife With play bobby's wife. Because she was supposed to reprise her role she was pregnant. This visibly pregnant. So i'm guessing she was like way pregnant and was about to pop. You really can't hide that now. Not although currently riverdale is trying to hide Tony's baby belly because she's pregnant real-life willie else they will choose gave birth to the baby and she named him river. Oh she when did that happen. The habit is weekend Oh i missed it though. Vanessa's tied sweat side. Swipe riverdale quick moment yes she apparently. File detour welcomed river. Always see his little hand. Oh yup january twenty ninth behind like she just posted it so so no more hiding the baby belly. No more but i digress. Specht the typically okay back to the charcoal will brand syndrome is a genuine medical disorder. That's what jeremy said. He had a describes dream loss following fogel brain damage which would include Lake scalp injury skull fracture in the contusions in Generally caused by contact like getting hit in the head of the baseball about of their specifically characterized by visual effects zia which is impairment in recognition of visually presented objects on the loss of the ability to mentally recall. Visualize images so doesn't generally mean that he has an inability to dream like he said he's like i can't dream rather it is. It affects your ability to remember or visualize your dreams after you wake up. Okay so he probably has been dreaming for fifteen years and just doesn't remember. Wow that sucks yeah. I've i couldn't remember any of my dreams. But i also then it got me questioning like my sleeping enough to dream right because i couldn't remember anything to me. I wasn't dreaming. But i guess it happens. Yeah i don't think. I necessarily remember a lot of my dreams. I always remember snippets. Never fooled dream right. I am the same way. Goodness of the original premise of this episode was to feature jeffrey. Dean morgan's return. John winchester appearing in dean's dream but morgan was busy filming. The watchman us so the writers chose to have dean encounter himself in the dream instead and john was brought up in conversation. I okay do you. Would you rather have seen jeopardy and morgan. Would you rather have seen daddy winchester. No i wouldn't either. I like how they did it. Yeah i like the scene. The dean on dean better than like the. That's true. all you got me liz. I know right now. You know thing i think i think it was very. I think they did a very good job with the dean having to face himself. Obviously he is his biggest obstacle right. Yeah he did talk about you. Know his dad and everything how he pretty much messed them up but Yeah i think if. I think he was him talking to john. It would be totally different. Like you wouldn't have the same impact as a dean on dina's no especially now because john died in a dean won't let that go even if he did. We did the same thing. I did it to save you. Did it save sam. Yeah i guess you could get away with that but it's so much better when deans like no i know you because i am you right now. Let's get into the university of westmoreland which is Staying not it's not. It's not a thing. What will i guess. I got to go to the mail application. That sounds like scam the create college. Yeah you applied to the university westmoreland they just took all your money So there's university of pittsburgh in pittsburgh and there is a westmoreland county which butts up to allegheny county where pittsburgh is located But there is no actual westwardly university. If anybody was wondering. I was curious because that wall decal looked legit. Those people didn't impeccable job. Heck they did indeed enters. The doctor's office with his research assistant among the book stacked on the desk is the cumulative dream authored by ring rose. Oc ring rose was a set dresser for supernatural from two thousand six to two thousand fifteen. I love when they do stuff like that he to depreciate the cast and crew Sam says that the dream route is some serious. Mo-jo you take enough of it with practice. You can become a regular freddie krueger and of course. Freddie krueger is a fictional character from an announced street series of films created by. Wes craven in portrayed by actor. Robert england he is in undead. Serial killer who can attack victims from within their own dreams. Robert england would later guest starred episode. Oh he'll be in this series a season six episode eleven appointment in samara. Remember that don't either but I do love the fact that so. They obviously refer to freddie in this. But i love the fact that freddie is based in reality. You know that right. Yeah okay that west craven picked it. I cover that in other little podcasts. We had Yeah read an article in the la times but a family of escape. The killing fields in cambodia And then once. I got to the us. Everything was fine and then suddenly the sun was having disturbing nightmares in died in his sleep Did it ended up being some like heart. Heart defect or something in an asian people were the people of that ethnicity. Yes it turned out. There was medical reasoning behind it. But the idea of being a night mid air you so much that you die who he. Bjp's krueger all the heaps in gbs all heaves indeed Sam mentions tim leary. I did not know this Timothy leary was an american psychologists during the sixties research. Experiments involved administering psychedelic drugs to volunteers in his studies. Feel like i knew about that. Seems like a like an upstanding gentlemen real pristine member of society a pillar if you will not a pillar a pillar of society. God damn if you guys listen to in that we drink. That's one of my favorite late. Liz turn onto. And that's why we drink a couple of years ago. But that's one of their things if you're a pillar of community that's at your like a serial killer or you're only shady dude. You're not you're not in your pillow. You're not a good guy note. Did nothing good comes out and being a pillar in the community a Talk about Singing up the wizard of oz and the dark side of the moon and had no idea what was talking about. I remember. I never did it. But i remember like people in highschool talking about that. Oh and you a trip listening to the dark side of the moon. Yeah supposedly the nineteen thirty nine. Victor fleming film the wizard of oz in the pink floyd. The dark side of the moon correspond to each other when played in sync. I think part of the problem is like to sink is kind of hard. I would think the teamwork outlay one person drops the needle and now and if you're off the nearly now start again dammit. Watching the two together often under the influence of drugs. But maybe that's why do it. I was never under the influence. Didn't have the same effect. I guess. I guess i mean by having tried it either way with no nothing. Compared to the something many people do in college others been much debate as to whether or not the to work sync up in whether intentional on the part of pink. Floyd the process of watching the film with the pink. Floyd album is called dark side of the rainbow in reference to the famous song from the movie over the rainbow and the rainbow. Oh there's a rainbow on their cover. Guess it comes out of the prison. Do you like that I read it and then get excited. Like i'd never read it before now. I'm rereading it. And i'm like oh look at that. What is it for me too. I love pink. Floyd and if you have never watched another brick in the wall ooh that movies so fucking weird. You don't even need to be high and you'll feel like you're high. It's fucking crazy. I remember going to the laser light. Show down at the omni max at the science center. They had pink floyd laser late show. midnight yeah. That was pretty cool. Eric kripke revealed that demon sam's dreams were supposed to contrast each other sam. Dreaming of having sex with belo was to show that below his soft exterior say was basically a quote unquote horn dog. So under his soft exterior liz. He was hard. Oh my but at the same time. He's like what many twenty year old boy. Yeah he's like. Mid mid twenties. A dean stream on the other hand was to show dean soft desire of wanting to live a normal life with lisa which we discussed when sam leaves the house in bobby streamrolled encounters saturated right world complete contrast to supernatural as usual color filter The same saturated in bright colors are often used in. Dean's wish i in episode two twenty. What is in what should never be. Even the color of the flowers yellow red tulips are the same invoking in italy. Peace and quiet interesting. I thought it was jarring to go from the dark darkness of bobby's house to the outside. I did she i was like i need to put sunglasses on. Especially how night yes. The white trim. No yeah the normal filter is also absent later in the series during season four episodes seventeen. It's terrible life. When sam and dean are living alternate lives arranged by zachariah will preview to really be there Sarah gamble reviewed in several interviews that the basic idea behind this episode has been around for quite a while in that she originally conceived it with fellow. Co-writer really tucker who left This series at the end of season two episode was in the bag for a bit in october. Two thousand seven. It was announced in article. That episode would feature the character jason voorhees from friday the thirteenth air cookie said we have jason from friday the thirteenth the character with the hockey mask. He shows up episode ten. We have cleared the rights to actually use jason. We have a twist on it. So it's not really jason but We have found interesting way to bring him in. So sam dean fight jason from phrase thirteenth in our world. It's pretty cool. Guest star will actually never happened later. Statements clarified that. It wouldn't be jason. But a character hockey bask in it was announced the copyright issues impossibly the Releasing new movie in the franchise meant that the character would appear. I love that episode to the athol flasher in my last bit of tiddle at the Creation connor chicago in november. Two thousand eight. Jared and jensen related the following anecdote. Jim was lying in hospital bed. Trying to deliver his lines to jensen. Jared just off camera. jared was miss. Try to make you mess up by playing with his toes while he was laying there. Jetsons it. Could you see jerry just playing with jim. Be retailers like todd. I could see them laughing. Giggling girl doing it. Are you kidding me. Yes they can totally let me know but like can you like. Yeah okay Jensen is said. Jared was playing this little piggy. Went to the morgan. Despite the distraction from jared johnson said. Jim delivered his lines perfectly in students. The camera stop yelled. What's wrong with you to jared. Jared said that a gym has toes of steel. Very impressed that he could continue in. The jerry would have to step up his game against to try to make him crack moma ago. That's perfect. I mean. I guess is one way to fill out. The worker gonna have put in so this gonna sagoo over to science class. Oh i like science class away and we're going to talk about. Selene consensus also known as african dream. Herb or la also goes by african dream root. Or hosa dream herb. So that's a real deal thing. It is a real thing. It is part of the the carrier philly Felicia the carrier felicia family of flowering plants. It's grown in south africa but some red and white versions are found across europe. It's a white flower with a very fragrant hypnotized aroma that that only opens at night and it has been known to cause vivid dreams or enhance your dreams. According to a twenty thirteen study which attempted to find the physiological mechanisms dreamers ability to induce a dreamlike state. It really didn't find too much but it did manage to provide a pretty feasible hypothesis. That sapna lloyd's in the actual plant are the real effect or where it comes from This would actually class the african dream root as an ach el inhibitor. Putting it in the same category as gallon. Mean and hyper zine a both of which have become popular commercial remedies To induce lucid dreaming. Now i did mention that. It's called the hosa dream herb and that's because it is deeply embedded into the host culture Because in that culture dreams are seen as gifts or messages from your ancestors so in these dreams. You want to be able to communicate clearly and remember them Andrew ancestors well in these dreams are generally characterized as drifting white winds or ghosts They actually supposed to enter your dreams to offer healing guidance or knowledge to the descendants about the family or the future and where i was describing it as a white flower as the other nickname gives. Its knowledge is that it's not really okay to call it an herb. Because all the psychoactive components are contained in the roots which is why it's called the african dream root now the dream route in the hosa culture is actually part of a lot of ceremonies such as the mortuary ritual in the mortuary ritual in ox is rubbed with frothy selene campus mixtures and then slaughtered before being sprinkled vile from. Its own gallbladder Before tucking into the ox The hosa have an entree of frothy dream. Route mixture certain other ceremonies include a three day event during a full moon in which initiates with people consuming and also washing themselves in the mixture. Oh during the three-day seclusion It is very common to not eat. Meat consume alcohol or have sex. You don't do those things you don't do those things. And the result supposedly of this three day ceremony is just a complete marathon of Symbolic dreams that the african dream root is also used by host shaman as a healing agent and as a healing agent it includes the treatment of mental disturbances and also the improvement of memory and apparently the dream route can make you throw up which is considered a mental and physical purging. So if you throw up while drinking. This frothy mixture of african dream root Than it's seen as you having to purge something mentally and physically. Oh okay not that. It just didn't agree with you. Your your purge. Yes so it's your body not your body couldn't take it or that is having some serious effects in your stomach. No that you needed to perjure yourself. What if you had like an allergic reaction All persian it's fine now whereas this episode kinda showed them literally drinking the african dream root with hair not even realizing they fell asleep. Just purged in. You said hair. there are some symptoms. That could happen if you take. Selenium can spec appearances one of which includes a report that came from somebody who tried it who will leave. They saw waiting lines of light and the air for about twenty minutes after consuming it before falling asleep and apparently going into dream. World is kind of compared to going underwater. Oh i don't know if i'd like that either no now. I don't like being underwater. So not only does it give you vivid dreams but it also gives you the ability to remember your dreams which is probably why jeremy was like. Oh this is so amazing. It wasn't the fact that he wasn't having dreams. That in this thanks to this lyneham consensus was able to remember the dreams he was having. But you wanna remember the dreams where you're killing people maybe amid depends on who you are. Now another effect of the route could be that your dreams or more colorful than usual and in which case it become extremely vivid Kind of very saturated and not everybody but there were some people in a study that said that they felt like they had the ability to control the outcome of the dream. Oh that's interesting and that right after waking up. They were able to report in memory of everything that they dreamt so there are several ways to actually ingest the african dream root. If you wanna do this. That's on you but i highly suggest you don't so we're we're not condoning drinking african dream root basically. Here's the method used by this host people and it includes about two hundred two hundred fifty milligrams of african dream root. And that. which is dried is then pulverized into a dust and then it's dropped into a half cup of water which can either be warm or cold and stirred until a thick foam formed on top and it takes apparently a really long time to get the foam to form on top. It's not like godiva radic you just put in your diuretic. Some people say that you can put it in a mason jar and shake will go faster. What if you have like one of those. Little frothy spooning things. That make it go faster. Well here's the kicker so you don't actually drink the drink. Do i want to leave with it. What you do is once you get that thick foam you use a spoon to scoop it out or suck it through a straw and ingest only the foam. And apparently you keep going until you feel bloated. I feel like that would be a lot of foam. And they say that the that the t method is best done in the morning before breakfast. I don't know why. I guess because you're the on an empty stomach or you can just chew on the route itself but that has less of an effect. Does it knock you out like the in the show. If you're drinking in the morning are you going to automatically fall asleep. So that is the way of doing it right okay. So there are western versions to one of which is generally higher qualities needed. So you can actually make the powder into a capsule and take the capsule and you take the capsule thirty minutes before you intend to sleep. Such as like melatonin that you normally would okay. Apparently in this form the root is known to have relaxation effects. Much like melatonin and the last final way to prepare. It is what is called dream tea. And this is more of instead of which is probably what they made. 'cause it's kinda looked like this so it includes four ingredients which are cinnamon ground ginger honey or sugar and two centimeters of the root t.f. Sit there with your roller. I guess And you're supposed to grind up the dream route. Then mix it with ginger and cinnamon then place that into a cup of boiling water and stir then while stirring you add your sweetener of choice and let it sit for two minutes. Then you can add milk or cream to improve the taste but it won't alter the effects that's nice that thing. I forgot. just talk about what we were talking about episode How did sam brew the tea while they were in the impala. Maybe he's the letter to lake. Warmer cantina already had some in a mason jar already ready to go just put deans hair in it. His thermos now. There are some warnings that says because it's not backed by factual research. It is said that effects can become permanent if you in just the root for three months straight. So if you're unsure if you're already feeling affects after two months they tell you to take a break and then come back later but not to continue. Take a route break. Take a break you know. Classic group break she classic. I mean we've all been there now. This this route. Like i said is very potent and is better left dried so obviously you don't wanna use it once it's fresh you wanna leave it out to air dry and then use a to do however you wanna make it however this can make you sick. I'll sick you you throw it for a couple of hours out will know thing you know. Thank you Now if you're not sold on selena salani consensus or african dream. Root there are eight other missiles herbs and celtics early dreaming a lot One is known as the mexican dream. Herb african dream herb. The ca- chichi sorry okay This is supposedly one of the best known dream herbs and it comes in the context chantel indians of mexico Which is known for using it for lucid dreaming the fresh of the herb the better and can be consumed in tea however the flavor can be bitter or by smoking dried leaves and they say that if you do a combination of smoking drinking and a fusion of the herb before you fall asleep while setting an intention and focusing on your heartbeat leads the i could the ideal conditions for spiritual journeying. It's deep And they say that you can find yourself feeling a sense of being in lightheadedness and clarity after you use it Another one is mug. Wert i've heard of that And that actually has been used by many cultures for prophetic dreaming. Trying to see the future commuting with your ancestors Its name actually literally translates to dream plant. And they say that the herb can be smoked directly into the lungs or burned as an instance in the afternoon Which will lead to lucid dreaming. Drinking the not actually is a calming effect. That actually cleanses the liver so that you may sleep longer in a conscious dream state getting rem sleep. It also helps. Apparently you heal while dreaming. 'cause it's cleaning out your liver and resetting yourself how ever certain people who have used as a dream agent have found themselves having darker dreams that reveal hidden insights and core wounds to themselves. Which would be like that dean verse dean eventually helping themselves to find closure now Prophetic dreams it also helps magnify the brilliance of your dreams so that vivid coloring and overall duration of your sleep. So you're going to sleep longer being able to get to that. Rem it also helps aid in relieving menstrual pain joint pains and headaches then there is the blue lotus via korea and the blue lettuce comes from egypt egyptian. It was used as a lake. Sorry those like egypt. Egypt confined find one word. Will this crazy prices blue lotus as per its name is actually a water lily. That has no connection to lotus flowers and was actually used in ancient egypt as a mild sedative but now is used by herbalists to treat insomnia which can also lead to lucid dreaming. Then there's the asparagus resume asus or a dong and it is the. It is known as the wild asparagus. Route in english or the chautari and air-traffic medicine and the chinese word for it which is the dong translates to heavenly spirit herb because it's cherished by shamans monks and yogis for a heart opening effect. And if you've ever done yoga it's all about opening the heart region and okay. I was like what's a yogi like. Yogi yes. I don't know what that means. I get it okay. Now chinese tau est amongst places so much value on their dream work in the be able to have these prophetic dreams that they nicknamed the wild asparagus. The flying herb and they found it effective to help one fly through the universe at night achieving magnificent dreams and moving with the spirit around the dream world now the tim dong not only induces relaxation and stress. Relief but also is an antidepressant and helps kind of like i guess is the closest to controlling your dreams. Because if you take this you're more likely to have a flying dream the lying Now there's the data radi or the african dream. Bean african dream bean african dream bean. You heard me right. This is used in traditional african medicine to induced vivid lucid dreaming and enable communication with the spirit world Apparently by taking the african dream being it actually gives you entry into the dream. World and promotes increased awareness. You know that you're dreaming so it's not like you're in there and you're just living your best dream life you're in there going okay. I'm dreaming. this isn't real and you're able to take control that way which then can give them a better chance at lucid dreaming now. The totta they african dream being contains active compounds essential oils and alkaloids and not the whole beenish consumed but the inner part of the seed is consumed directly or just chop dried mixed with other herbs and smoked just before sleep. There's smoking going on. Yes now there's also the celica full iaea or the sun opener and it was called this by the ass texan is actually still used by mexican. As transitive nation it is highly regarded as sacred so because it enables vivid recollection of past distant events. So this herb in touch with what you believe to be past lives if that make scenes yes now. One way of consuming. This is actually fermenting it. Knowing that the sun or the the knowledge of the sun is embedded into it creating it making it. The alexa tying back to this sun opener. But everything's pretty much all natural. I guess it just depends on what you wanna do with your dreams. Do you wanna fly her. Do you want to know you're dreaming though and us but in case you're curious. I will quickly say my sources. I used health line. Dot com would have to dreaming dot com the mesia cellini a consensus dot org loner wolf dot com and to leave you off with a quick thing. I because it doesn't really tell you anything about this herb being used like 'cause you know supernatural. We found out that they do trust in our true to some parts of it but then they obviously expand and get creative so this they were like okay. You can definitely lucid dream but dream walking so dream. Walking is having the ability to travel between different dreams and they can either be yours others dreams or even other planes of existence and while you're dream walking you are conscious of what is going on and you're able to remember the dream even after you wake up now. It's not the same as lucid dreaming. They're similar but they're not the same. They're similar in that. You're both you're aware of what's happening around you like you know that you're in a dream said andrew walking however and dream walking. You can travel in dreams in this one in lucid dreaming. You don't travel into dreams. But i didn't want to go too much into dream walking. Talk more about herb. The herb served. I i also forgot. We were talking about the episode itself. They were so quick to do this. Shit too is. We have to take drink this tea. And they're like okay. We'll do it like it wasn't a weird thing. They had heard they were just like down to do it right away. Back and forth about it. Like sam wasn't like maybe we shouldn't do it. You know that could be a bad idea like let's go. How do we find it. I'm in sign me up. Yeah you'll have to ask me twice. Gives your cares what dream walking versus lucid dreaming. Was this one kind of combines. Both i don't think i wanna do either. No now how. Rude i mean. I enjoyed learning about them. I mean i think. I think it helps if your lucid dreaming or whatever to like. I don't know if you're prone to nightmares. I feel like this is a good thing because then you are conscious of that. You're in a dream okay whereas normally and dreaming you're not like this is a dream everything's fine. This isn't real right now. You're like scared you're in its wit at man. Yeah yeah i get that. But that's all i got. That's all i got. That's all i got okay. That's all i got to do. So that's a wrap on season three episode ten dream a little dream of me. Our next episode. We will be entering for valentine's day Season three episode. 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Five Year Anniversary Freeplay: Lowdown's Angry Beauty Tips

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Five Year Anniversary Freeplay: Lowdown's Angry Beauty Tips

"The views and opinions expressed on each of the influence or that of the panelists and not of our sponsors Amazon dot com and t public Brennan discretion is advised. Be Again. Let's Say Yard. Moxie don't know better better back. WoN'T ENJOY WELCOME TO EVERYONE. That is joining us for Geeks. Under the influence. We are starting our five year anniversary episode of Gigs under the influence. We do so excited to finally get this off the ground we've been doing a podcast lips fest of virtually for the past four days. This is day. Four where we've been talking doing live streams from a number of the different shows on the network and just talking about the last five years and a lot of them and just kind of celebrating. What it's been to be part of G. Y? For five years and with me. Let's not waste a whole lot of time. Let's get into. Who's actually on the panel to start? We're going to have some panelists in now we're GONNA have some additional panelist. Come in about midway through. We're trying to get all the show runners on unfortunately in groups is working so he's not gonna be able to join us but we're GONNA have everybody else that's available coming on at least for you know here and there when they can and to start. Let's go with the people that were on. Geek father That lead into influence. First off is the father himself Scotty. P. is here. How'd Y'all the que- let me go to just list them? All I dare you five years of names dude like literally you got a new. I realized six months broke. I was my first introduction to you. That's stars episode Casa. Yeah we actually. We mentioned our first episodes on E. Father as well. We talked this professional world. The Wall rests could chew. What else half long lunchbox from obeys clocks lunch box? Yeah yet. My videos to begin talks next up. Of course is the purveyor of smash talk was helping out with Keith. Father is here as one of our regular panelists on Geeks on the influence and show runner on the network. We're talking about Kyle smash what's up. Yeah I just I never went away. I never want to got to hang in for the whole the whole Shebang. Yeah thank you by the way in my apologies again. For whatever stupid technology glitch? Listen apologized to me apologized to the public. They had to fly you apologizing to the public. Actually not I actually want to give some credit to smash because there was a moment that Scottie just disappeared off the livestream and the look on. Kyle's face was fucking priceless. This look pure fear and panic. Step-up motherfucker we're waiting for Scotty was just like all right. We'll just talk. I will say for the plus side though. Is that even though you were put in that situation. Just because a tactical stuff you still held it together. You can continue the conversation. You kept it going so props you for that. Oh Grassy US guys. I'M GONNA GO REACTION THERE. We go you get a thumbs up there quicker than I thought it. Okay hold on hold on. Yep Oh did you change the color scheme on your thumbs to see against black whatever you know I gotTa keep it real. Keep a speaking of the color scheme on on there my Person Co runs the GEEKS influence with me my co host donkey on the influence of the man. That in many times throughout the five years has been the sole reason why we've continued to go for it The the soul of this network really as far as I'm concerned we're talking about low down. Brown macgyver saw Brazil guys. That's a lot to put on a mother fucker man lambreau lot planning on taking the network soon. So I'm doing that so I can blame it on. You know whatever's in your head okay. Cool yeah right the purveyor under-table dry jobs is what I dry checks. I don't know what he's talking about with this nonsense of soul when all this shit out in facebook land. Thank you for joining us. Thank you for joining us. Those who in the entire time is it is it is a rough time for everybody and I hope we brought you some joy and some excitement and some and some insight onto some things and what we should maybe some experience for shared an father a lot of parents of feeling the same way with madness. We did last night. I mean we just tons of movies that people are probably finally getting to for the first time since they have time. So we're really giving you some other outlet of entertainment because you're stuck in your fucking house right. I can say what people on this on this part of G. Y. Right now I'm the only person that does not have a child that I know of and And slip that in. Don't you she said? Oh you guarantee the elder millennial dead my progression into alcoholism has been so much more significant than the three of you. Just because I don't have to deal with children also say that that you know of but if you didn't know of them they're probably so tiny you'd miss them anyway. Oh we live hobbits running around kids screaming. I'm sure the little things you go. Yeah Fuck Yeah so so. Here's his hosting this shit. Show I guess I feel like we're supposed to be you know I was working but assuming like normal yeah like where you introduce the the host of gyn okay. I tr- up since four o'clock life fair. Yeah so the host the purveyor the motherfucker. That is the reason we're doing the shit even in quarantine you say on the soul your fucking reason doing this shit. I'm like ticket you phase on this screen right now. I'm to pay to have any level of soul in me and if there was any the past month being quarantined in. The House is sucked. The last bit of that soul out most of us he had this point Bro. Yeah so yeah. I Mike. The hobbit the founder of the influence network the host of G. Y. and smack my pitch up and blues clues and cocoas on deeply upsetting and runner-up gi Trivia. And Dick come on. He has because you're not there through. Oh okay yeah okay I will say before we get started with a GI podcast. Dot Com is the best way to stay in touch with what we're doing on the network. It's going to be kind of weird until we can get back by the way I was talking with. Amy Bogarde earlier today. About how amazing it's going to be once we get to be in the same room again. What we totally brought it up like well throughout a couple times on gig fathered that our blood family in this family were huggers. Bro. Yeah it's just like we're GONNA get together for that first recording episode in the first half an hour. We're all there is going to be nothing but fucking hugs. That's all we're going to doing. This hugged each other. There might be tears. There will say though I will say I feel like there needs to be a post quarantine quarantine with that shit though like we're going to be in the same room but like hey bro. Yeah. Here's a here's a here's an ear hug when you walk in the door will just lysol the shit out of each other and just you know how about no on that because that's all like poison not only that shit we're gonNA just wear body condoms. Naked Gun yeah. That was that was the first one I was still on the run together. I was telling him during peak. Father's like you know coming from a large Italian family that you know we hug sometimes two to three times before we even leave dot com for. We could talk about Not Your family but the fact being bald man you know that this body calms fit really well. Julich bitches in a long time. Just you fucking wait. It is smashing a full body condom. St. I could never mind sorry. So let's get this for those that are unfamiliar with what free plays which is what this episode is that there is no specific subject matter to discuss we're We're not talking about Star Wars. Well we will be playing with a ball. Yeah but it's really just a chance for us to kind of get together and go just free rein That we can talk about whatever. We're probably going to be talking about the quarantine a bit. Because that's what everybody's still talking about it so three minute in our lives. It's such a part the Corentin. Yeah the The lockdown over yet. It's not over no yeah and And there's a lot of questions as to win. That's going to happen and so but we are going to be releasing episodes Regularly as much as possible through this. But I'm kind of interested in how your consumption of nerd them stuff has changed. Are you reading more or less? Are you like podcast? A podcast in general have dropped forty percent in consuming just across the board. All podcast. Not just your network. Wow 'cause people aren't driving to work and that's where a lot of time consume actually So for me. Personally I have taken the time and I mentioned this on a man episode. That was released a few weeks ago. Jeff at checkout ones. I had on the Q. Right just you know. Once you're like Oh this sounds interesting when we put over there and actually check them out as far as other nerd. Them's nothing the most that's changed for me is like I just am not. I don't really go out. I mean I'm still going to work and then on home so nerd him as far as viewing has increased right. I'm re- I'm actually watching a Lotta Shit like I just ran. I think I just ran through the alien series last week which some of those bad call. 'cause resurrection can eat a Dick in three. Even though there's a producer's cut it's still Kinda shit now. I will say I've noticed in madness. There has been a huge uptick in. I have seen more downloads illegal. At least what I can see which is which is which is recognized as lives and you spotify a massive fucking uptake in downloads. Like it's been like increase two hundred downloads within three weeks. Wow Okay since we started in August where we were at when the ship started. So that's that's insane to me. Yeah I'll think since The last Dui episode where we talked about. Like you know binging a think now people I can for me personally. I ended up watching like you said things that I've seen before just going back through. Maybe I just want that familiar familiarity like I don't watch I don't WanNa Watch something new and have to get drawn into it. I WANNA go into something. I already know the. I know how it's GonNa end because everything is so crazy right now But also I find like I can't fuck in. I can only watch so much shit like I actually go out and look around at what actually exists in reality like I can only download so much of the same reality. See to fit Scotty. Yeah well I'm going to kind of touch on everything their first off. I bet you there's even though overall there's a drop in podcast listening. I bet she was. Also there's going to be a slight bomb to certain ones because people are actually having a chance to catch up true for that now. I'm actually very glad I'm actually been able to go back to star Wars Clone. Wars the series. That's on Logan is is actually into a now like he kind of liked it before but we started episode. One season won both the boys. We watch it. That's like our lunchtime thing and all that and then the only new thing I can really say besides some the normal like CD. Ro- wife are catching up on. Cw stuff is actually. I started watching it into the badlands. Is My new thing. Okay Buddy Dude at series day one of it. I'm on season three and I started it like less than two weeks ago. So just let it be known but I can only watch so much with the boys because it is kind of bloody kinda. That was my suggestion from the last episode yet. So I'm glad that somebody you know was actually why. It's such a great shit so underrated. Amc was grabbing a Kung Fu series. I was like just all over that one I was like yes and so good author sword. Good Yeah exactly. The other side was though is and this is where it's GonNa come into play even after we're out and about and be able to do our thing again and be able to return to our normal lives is that there's nothing being made right now like production on. Shan's and moved up is done so there's GonNa be this glaring black hole now. Hopefully I means that indies that have two week production time and minimal post production before they release. They will be able to fill that gap and get more notice. Because there is in these big blockbusters happening lowdown right so one thing that I'm worried about that goes right in step with what you're saying. Is I read a couple articles where I mean they don't move is going to survive this and that scares me because as much as I love obviously sitting at home you know when my hand Emma. Pounds like pants like Al Bundy watching something that movie theater that is the most debt is literally the most Ou- gic and comforting thing that I can think of because I've been doing that since I was like four right. I remember going see fucking an American tail when I was four in a move. That's that is a thing for me looking at the sky singing somewhere out there so I feel about using my friend. Parents sure loves going to the movies. My wife loves going to see movies like everyone has particular taste but we all have going to the movies and if we lose that in as far American culture goes because the shit am IHEART will fucking break. I'm going to say we're right on the fence about it because also even though stuff technically is in getting made right now at least to our knowledge. Because you don't think anybody's GonNa be public about making you know there's some stuff that could be worked on but there's a lot of stuff that's already indicate and it just hasn't been able to be released because of what's happening with theater so we have a logo on ballots and then there is i. I think I read that same article or at least a similar article that you did Stephen. There's another one that I saw today. Talking about how the drive ins are GonNa make a surgeon again and over. You could stay because you can stay separated day. Concert like Koussa drive in is still planning on opening on. Actually the announced either today or yesterday that may I as their opening day. They were planning a little early but they talked to people and they didn't think that they were ready to do it safely so they've instituted that there's going to be a lot less people. All tickets will be purchased online ahead of time. It'll be you can't hang out outside of your car. Yeah there's a different heavy restrictions are being smart about it and I think that's drive ins are going to be the first to really return for sure. Yeah so yeah. I agree on on all fronts for one. That's really cool about the drive in. I think that the that's A. That's a very important especially American pastime. You know You know at the same time. It's going to be difficult because it just like any theater. They survive a lot of their concessions because oftentimes they're they're movies are half price to get you know to you. Know Two for the price of one that sort of thing and they'd survive concessions. Well that's GONNA after then change so. There's like they're still like there's too many variables to know what's going to happen. I would love to see nothing happened to the theater system but I think that I don't think it's GonNa go away. I don't think anything's GONNA die. I think what's going to happen. Is that? It's going to become less so until at least buildup smart you're GonNa have places closed down And places stay open And that's what is going to be most of it's going to be digital so I say we all get together. Talk to the banks trying to get a fucking loan and Byron Movie Theater out so we can run that shit. Gui Style That Scotty I don't I don't mean to cut you but I am keeping up with the Livestream and WHO's commenting about mention that to throw in Carl Carlton. Just drop that There's only going to be have as many people allowed at the drive in when they open uh-huh so they're gonNA CUT. They're cutting their their whatever capacity. Bring morning there. You go thank you. That's that's that's why we're co-host thinking no snack bar gassing there's GonNa be no snack bar and there are restrictions yeah so I mean okay. We're still going to get back to a semi quasi-normal but it's not going to be normal right off the other course but I was going to say I mean. I know there are times where like the regular theaters are are considered more expensive. But you could get get a whole nother debate on that but a place like goosen drive in. I will gladly pay an extra dollar or two. A ticket because they're not allowed to do concessions and certain things like that to help. Keep them afloat definitely like even if they put in a temporary to permanent whatever price change may be. I'll gladly support. That was. Yeah you know cow I was GonNa say you also going to look at ticket prices now that I couldn't tell you if they were going to be less or more if I had to guess after all this is said and done when movie start coming out. Things are getting producing in things that are in post production actually get completed like supernatural or other shows like that you know when that starts happening they come out. They're going to hopefully not go this route. They're sure they're gonNA WANNA make up on some lost funds if they can do that by pushing for new ticket prices to be fifteen sixteen twenty dollars an hour. Ricky that do have a slippery slope. If you're going for bottom line here and say like listen. We lost this. We lost this much amount of money. And if we can make this this amount of money up then this is what we need to do. They Mardi my heaven monopoly on theaters that are local within the United States. That aren't just owned by somebody in town. Let's say by private owners a big corporation. They're going to go in there and do that. They'll raise the prices or the lower room for a little while to get everybody piling in and then up. The Price Scotty is about to die. I I gotta do. I've gotTa do devil's advocate on this because it's just the thought of my head like I agree with what you're saying but at the same time you said yourself that there is a good chunk of theaters that will be closing which means they'll have less distribution of worry about which means if anything they can keep ticket prices same still be making money because they're paying less for distribution or the distribution companies are charging more to have to make up for lost business. Already fired everybody so it doesn't matter saying saying because you've got these movies that have been delayed and the millions of dollars of our input into producing it and how those companies work. The turnover is supposed to happen at a certain pace right. And there's going to be like an eight month gap but by the time everything said and done before they start seeing their some returns. So yeah you know they're gonNA Kinda WanNa make up something to make the difference up because you know they. Everything's liquid when it comes to that right hard cash so it's all credit. It's all interest. It's all loans like. There's nothing hard set cash what's going to happen is like we have a couple of projectors for the network we are now a number from Zap projectors. So there's going to be like the old school like prohibition era for Alcohol but with movie theaters where people are going to be rolling into parking lot setting up like a like instead of a rave. It's just a movie screen with a projector with pirated movie from like Russia That they're playing in the parking lot until the COP show. Everybody like scatters like like we'll have look like around the block. There's going to be like pop-up drive INS happening in parking. Lots of K. Mart Park has no one. No one was willing to pay the twenty dollar early access fee through Amazon. I'm not doing movies like twenty bucks fishes Bro especially when you had like if you had something like the unlimited. You didn't have to worry about that so like why would I pay for more for one movie? That was just okay or a never seen bloodshot. Fuck yourself on. No one knows what we do that. And it's funny. You mentioned that movie. He literally paid for the early access or the movies at home thing. They started doing for bloodshot and I was like I just heard owned. I just found some a free copy. Pay Twenty Bucks for a movie that it was probably worth two. It was not a good movie and that movie was rash just yet but I'm going to just so I can proper attire. Moving this is GonNa be the death of a furious franchise. Bad businesses see furious. No they'll just release the fast and furious that they're planning on doing but they'll just soup a CGI masks on everyone. We're doing this during record T- It'll just help. Vin Diesel faces me. Vin Diesel family. Family Grandma's eightieth. We still can't see John Cena. No apparent apparently now because the pollution cleared up. How do you have a separate father and a super mother help a fuck is John? Those don't work all like at all. Dude you know this is going to be such a fucking tired. Might bring it back because you guys had started mentioning about the streaming as well. But that's been the big debate for the past year to win. The streaming companies are stepping up. Because you're trying to make the money and Disney plus was smart. How the if you already had dizzy. Plus they released onward and they they just draw and they drop skywalker early on Disney. Plus you can watch that Shit. Yup That is how you knew you don't fuck and say hey here's early access pay twenty bucks. Fuck you put that. Shit on there for free already. Paid for your Shit and actually no. 'cause rises skywalker on busy plus yet. It's still an Amazon. You can rotate dropped it really. That was the first movie that they dropped early. Access but considering the Disney owns everything. I'm not giving them props because they're probably still be the ones to come out and get tickets and we did see did drop onward early for along with like an fewer movies that you could pay to see it early but then it very quickly went to Disney. Plus Well Day right it did yeah onward in which is by the way really great man. I enjoyed that movie. I never got rid of Disney plus after the mandatory and like a bunch of assholes. Did I kept it because I love Disney from buying for free? So I'm not I mention on well. I did the combination with Hulu inside bucks. But that's I mentioned on Africa. I have to remember that mentioned on. Keith Father One and I mentioned it to where do that's how Logan Leland and I are catching up on star wars clone wars. Then we go right into rebels and then go into whatever. The newer one is as well where we've got our binge going on with this series. Now we get into because we're getting close to the end of the first half here. I WanNa Kinda get when you guys before the couple of our panelists here make some room for some other panelists. I do WANNA get into five year a little bit and talk about. Maybe what our favorite memories are from the last five years if we can remember yes we because a lot of it. I've especially my brain is turning into Goo during quarantine that I. I'm having trouble typing out stuff and remembering things so much more traffic. It's it's what you can remember Low DOWN TO START. I will say that honestly one of my favorite memories is the first episode. I was on which was episode two and it was the horror episode fitting. 'cause hey anyway because that it quelled my fears of like records being on you know being recorded being being put somewhere for ever basically out there and how much fun it could be during that and the different views and the rants and the shit talk that could happen and I mean that was literally like that I rock for free and then he come back. Weirdly addictive tha it is so that was definitely a huge moment. And then I've got some of the biggest things have been do hobbiton. I fucking interviewing Robert England. Who's about show up interviewing fucking Doug Bradley fucking doing two years in a row and being brought back the second year as a featured panelist galaxy conduct those are memorable fucking moments. I mean he has done some shit he wants you back like that is that is huge in those. Those are things that just stockpiled in my mind. That like whenever I fucking overwhelmed whenever I feel like this shit is fucking awesome. I know it's worth it and fucking more. That's those are my memories right there smash it so I'll have to say I have a couple but none. Of course the main one is my first recording for you. Now Start Working on Star Wars trilogy do. This is how your sided I was. I made sure that I bought like because I had star wars shirts but I was like. This isn't right I need I need something. That's the worst possible one that I could find or it was purchased for me And I wore there and and I just remember being like just a little puppy on the couch now. I realise how comfortable it was to podcasts. And I'll phone when I look over to the left and my You know low down over. There passed out drunk in the whole time. I'm like I don't know what to do. And then I kept coming back so of course. My second favorite memory was recording at Masa mania when we got to Get to a couple of interviews there and convert into. Yeah Call Me Lyle. Lyle was wrong. I was like who the fuck it. Lyle bones in calling and kept calling. Kyle called Jody. Who was taking photos from behind the cameras that we're using a color like a lady of the night or something. It's the same weekend with hotels rewind and it was just it was just one of my favorite memories especially because it had been really my first experience with that on top of podcasting. The backstory would that has also. I have discussed it on a on. An episode is that we went into the main bar of the hotel and asked if it was cool. If we set up in the chairs on the net around a coffee table in the corner bar. And they're like I mean I can't say officially yes but I don't care cool good enough and just started setting up and security came over as we have like two hundred pounds of cords that were like unraveling and trying to get and he's like. What are you doing what we're going to interview like coughing? We needed space. You can't do that here man and really need to do it. Somewhere and just this dejected. Cy and went like just hang on. I'll be right back. And he comes back and stuff. I found a spot for you. Guys like just follow me and it was just like very private room right in the main thoroughfare that we were able to use it was super quiet. It was better than we could have ever gotten if if we actually just tried to ask ahead of time but the fact that we that up there like fuck just here just have it. Just go just go in there. Take it remember we had. We had like watching guard because someone tried to walk in. And we're like now. Yes now. Stop being mill recording fucking ridiculous man. Had One of my favorites was the first event that we got press passes for was Gorby barbecue that was right around was right around motel birthday and lowdown already gotten a ticket and I was like. Is there a way you could sell that? Because I got US press passes so we can go up on the stage off to the side during the show and like see the bands and stuff and that was incredible and it was. It was amazing even though so like the year literally the year prior to that I'd actually worked security for the main stage. It's still didn't touch being able to just roll in and go up right next to the stage and watch the show because we're GONNA security. I had to watch all the other masses right but I I did get to be like six feet from my Steve Body. Count that Kinda cool like a spinach abuse of big big big Dick Energy. Just walk around and be like that's right. I can walk right past here. I felt Kula ship going behind the gate and like going up on stage and then seeing the people in the crowd that I know from off to the side and being next to you like American nightmare and dillinger escape plan against me and all these bands. They're going for it onstage. And we're like fifteen ten fifteen minutes away on the state great. You know what I think. These guys have something they job now. I will say there was only one band. We didn't get to do that with and they had special passes that God was Lamma Goes. Yeah now I do love. Lamb of God and I've loved the news due to the two new singles. Drop but really like you haven't mentioned passed on. Mantha fuck caddy shack. Now when you were playing fucking Alley Cats fucking new American Gospel from nowhere like me. I was GonNa say I episode because I was again I was bragging about it. Onto Geek. Father Upset was out. Did Dr who true. Yep that's right because I I didn't do that episode. Strictly there was a seat. Because I don't watch doctor who so. There's no point in me being on this. I laughed. Yeah but that was about to say I had to laugh really hard earlier because of I. It takes more than one hand account. How many episodes you've passed out on Stephen early days? Oh Yeah don't throw him under the table Him. Groups include yes. There were a couple that I basically did and a couple that I probably should have. There's definitely top where you should not been a week. You should have been functioning on any level and you all you all had that episode of where it was just like because I was mentioning to call for the doctor who episode. It was the same thing where it was like. I was like I wasn't nervous. I got to give you a compliment because I had the same idea of doing a podcast similar. Gigs under the influence. But you were doing a better job. I'm bringing me on and then I did this and that was back then where I wasn't doing a better job we're dead we're doing good is your to`real that's probably the only reason you sound. Good right. Yeah I've got to see some of the same stuff again over the past five years. You know like being able to. This is what inspired me to do. Geek father like was being part of Gui being able to do this. Stuff galaxy con- like you mentioned. Stephen was. It's awesome to be able to go back in there even if nobody is in the room. Which fortunately we haven't had to deal with but even if nobody was in the room we're still doing our shit out there. Yeah I just in a room in one of our houses and stuff and I've got to say and probably one that only interviews that have really come through at this. Point is when we had bow on over the summer. That was a blast so much dude just to be able to talk nineties punk like from the band. Richmond from the audience per the Richmond punk. Yeah just it. Just the biggest thing was the differences that him and I had the same situation but he had it from the band side and I had it from the crowd. Side will and was weird. It was off also nice about that interview to is that and I know a lot of people that listen have that friend group or you can get really mean to each other and everybody knows that it's actually coming from a place of love and respect right. That's what friends do is. They're just really shitty each other. And so what I loved. His window came on and most of US had had interactions with him. We knew each other somewhat. Scotty probably more than than the rest of us but almost almost two decades. Yeah Yeah when he sat in it was just like he was a regular panelist. He went fully into like him. Lowdown went after each other for a little bit there. Fucking why clause that was fucking fun though man. Oh fuck that now dude. That was like that was it really. Wasn't it was like an odds moment because we were just like like you talk to people wake laws and we'll fuck okay. Let's go let's go. Let's do this and honestly if he couldn't have held his own. I'm like all right. Whatever one would banter I wanted to fund. That was he was awesome. I loved ethics so now Yeah I look around the studio and around the House right now and I've got signed pictures from a concert. We went to where we did recordings or got interviews got like the signed Robert England print. That was the same time that we interview Robert Englund. We'VE GOT A. I've got pictures. That Scotty was nice enough to send me or your wife. The Gen wife enough to send us with Bo from avail. And then the group show another group shot of us as well from Where was the that? Was the ranch rancho which we're seeing bro him during the pennywise get. How many shows have a bunch of the g white people together now over the past couple of years as well that is true we do like to the end right. Got Go higher on maiden and slayer. Sleigh slayer twice right slayer twice trying to go into this. Mega dilemma got torn June. If it's still happening black flag in July and we'll see but religion went to Shit and dropkick Murphys rancid against me. Now with against me didn't happen so what is it going to buy tickets to Rage against machine. Glad you didn't do. I painted timber. But we're going to get into before you guys leave us. We're going to talk about what we're drinking a little bit and we might have some panelists popping on here shortly for the second half but It it's kind of difficult with the quarantine to get necessarily like specialty booze to do for what we're drinking but eh before we do that. Let's let's do the Intro fucking drake drugged you wanted to go. Hey we're drinking jazz jazz. We call them. They call the spirit fingers. He Mother Fuck You. We we we should have had to do. These are jazz either. Expand this out. I think we figure this out before it hobbit was right so no he's right. I know I'll see okay. Okay okay so for for what we're drinking do. We have any specially drinks. That people are sipping on for Am I am? I've been taking it as far as the quarantine goes. I have been supporting local businesses wherever I can and I have a crowd of the final. Gravity is the nine hundred. I it has a New England. Pa and I it's six percent hall. I forget what hops around but it's it's the good sessional light doing this as a tasty treat. That's what I'm drinking on and I asked him to open up the basic cities it's caught logger. It's Dr Is there dark lager. Nice fucking tasty smooth is delicious. I recommend anybody in the Richmond Area. Sport local businesses. That are gonNA that are really taking a fucking hit from this shit and go by their versus going to the Kroger and buying twenty four pack. Some shit course later. Whatever the fuck. No share Amy Night for example Sundays. Now we've made it where we are doing a little drive just around to both checkout. How weird it is that. There's not as many people so fucking weird superman but also just to get out of the House we. We're trying to do pick ups when we came when we can from a different restaurants and stuff to help support our local restaurants and everything so done. Copacabana we've done today. We did Galaxy Diner and also today we stopped by Bosque and got growl deal of the bosque dry and for the episode stuff craving CIDER. And you can pay on their website and then go in and they'll fill it takes two seconds and then you're good to go so replacing Richmond. Does that you pay and then you go get it. It's awesome. Yeah gloves and it. Same thing like we talked to actually before we start jumped onto this and we're going to get some To Go from Fat Dragon. Nice is I'm just saying like not by from change right now. They all survived is their billion dollar companies. Berg. Mcdonald's Papa. John's pizza fuck all that noise. Everybody needs to be fucking buying local. I'm I'm looking at the roaches of this like nothing's going to get them back to Keith. Richards of the Fast Food World K. They're fine drugs. They're still standing addition to is that if you eject their website or their facebook and make sure that they're not doing their own deliveries because they make less money when going through GRUB HUB OR UBER. Eat Up and it's more expensive. Yeah it's more expensive for you and they don't get as much money so go through their facebook. Go through their website if possible Get a phone number or order online. If that's an option fall-outs doing a limited delivery around the Churchill area but there are also heavy sectioned off area in front of fallout for curbside. Pickup Wonderland. Wonderland is now doing food. And I'm so excited because if you haven't had because sometimes you go in and they're just not cooking that night when they do it's obnoxious food like it's so good it's so good and it's ridiculous it's always chat board. Nobody boards all sorts of Shit like weird shit food. But it's fucking that's when when his food gets the craziest is when he's bored he I I did. It was a hot dog wrapped in Bacon stuffed into a pepper breaded and deep fried on a bun and with all sorts of topics on. That sounds really good. So thep onto hobbits delivery thing also going back to the beer thing. A lot of local breweries are doing up to a twenty mile radius delivery from the location. So if you don't if you don't WanNa go out which everyone understands then you can still get a broader. I actually don't mind going to pick it up from the bureau but final gravity. They I had to work and had a beer. That day. Just dropped that I really wanted and fucking I'm GONNA do delivery. And they have notes and so like. I wasn't going to be home. The wife was going home. I had a cooler. I just sit outside with a bunch of cooler packs and it was like putting cooler to to the right side of the house by the side door ban. They sent me a text message. 'cause I also said text message with a picture saying that it was delivered. They did that and I just said thank you and when I got home it was there. The businesses are so working with fucking people Manley. They want to get through this as much as everyone else. Disapp- lease just look into all you can to support everyone? That's right next door and also remember that. There's a lot of people that work in these restaurants that are not restaurants and businesses. That are not able to do anything right now. They have limited staff. Because you know they don't have the wait staff necessary. Because they don't have a the room full of people and so like I I know. Nc Boca which is a regular hangout for for number of panelists myself and amy also very often and lowdown often Margaritas. Their their pickup is like super easy. They have a window for ordering and a window for picking up and they also have Kurtz curbside pickup. That's super easy. Make sure to remember where you come from where you hang out. Support those people and also a lot of them have patriarch's or go fun. Me's or stuff going on Richmond. Restaurant Group is one of them that it covers a lot of restaurants There's the what is it the Richmond. What's the big fundraiser? One that's happening right now. Oh faulk yeah no part of it. I remember the name of it talked about brain melting. I don't remember the name. Yeah but there's another stuff then. We are working on getting a page together for the website. That'll have all that information. But just look to your local creators people that have like at C. Stores People that are That are artists. That are maybe commission. Work that you've been kind of wanting to do tattoo artists. For example we talked about Talked about the yeah. We talked about that on Gig. Father like the artists and everything but there is an extra one I thought about and this is local and other it depends on their their certain levels of this but I saw go fund me today four abandoned but it was for the road crew. It's further fulltime road crew. Because when they're not touring those people are not making money either. I've seen some big name bands doing that as well like. Yeah where does it go to? The band goes to the people who role in their ams. Who like do this stuff behind these some big name bands? That have actually post and stuff like hey. We're trying to keep a road crew fed while they're not being able to work. So hey it's basically they know touring. No money exact. Yeah work for theaters and any kind of like theater. Workers that are helping you know bill props or like work on moving stuff in and out there if they don't have stuff to move onto the stage off of the stage and to set up and plug into and fix lights and all that stuff. There's no work. There's only so much that can be done so. Please look around look on facebook pages for local theaters for local Improv groups. Whatever you know any anybody. That's an entertainer or an artist. That might be struggling. You go find them. Put the time in and see what whether it be by their album on on on their band camp or a commission art piece or just submit some money to their a then mo if it kind of do it Doing something here and up on what as restaurants Every means they said to do. I was just going to say one tip this Sort of like don't eat yellow. Snow is don't worry about holy place if it's ten minutes before they closed they want to hear from you on anybody they wanted to live smashes guy close they love you not not personally but now don't feel bad about it kind of bad about it. Still try to go earlier than that. Call like ten minutes for what it means. National One has always laid. Yeah you'd call it a minute before. They close their cool. Is as you all things. The amazing thing is that everybody separated and now trying to help everyone else out. Yeah what seems like a different landscape than it was a few months ago from just how general people treat each other so and a lot of those people a lot of those experiences that we've had we've had Friends will be made or experiences. Happen within those places that we need to keep alive and that's the important thing take from it and also people that are also taking advantage that are going to utilize the all the delivery and the curbside pickup Senator That are out there. You still need the motherfucking tip. Okay because these new Kim hard nearly what they are so fucking. Shit like the delivery had I think I I think I forget the total percentage but it was thinking it'd be like a thirty five percents of you know why because if I'm buying fucking beer I can afford to give you a fantastic fear even when I broke them a house even when I'm picking up I'm tipping like whatever going on I mean sure across the board no but I mean like 'cause you don't need this shit right Y- we're perfectly able to still be stopped at the grocery store but the fact that right we're ordering out you can fucking tip. Yeah I would say there's A. There's an old saying you know champs get paid like jumps in at that time you really only regulated that Specifically like firefighters cops teachers which yes the completely agree. But it's everyone else the for the you know it's everyone else to. It's not just them although they are severely underpaid. So we're a lot of other people. It's it's amazing how this time is pretty much shined a light on like what the actual important things are. Now on that we're GONNA say goodbye to our first panelists that were on for the first half year so we can let the other ones Talk a little bit. This is definitely harder. We've done bigger panels in person that that's a little bit easier because we can see each other with The remote recording. This is definitely too many people. So hopefully we'll have the bruce popping in at some point on the second half here as well Just to say hello but Thank you so much smash and And Scotty for being part of this network for five years For being part of the panel for Geek Father Before this We appreciate it so much and also Scotty remember. You're hosting this thing. So don't I have no? How can cut your audio and video and you'll be fine but also you have to stop the live recordings so it's not afterward we're like man. I hate her fans to come onto those people. So it's like we care such a patch. Yes so all you have to do is when we're like at the end and we moved and all that you just hit Lee end meeting and then you're good is that I don't even know what that was again. He threw it again and we know. Shit right. It's GONNA album. Yeah I'm sorry. Post Malone Scottie. You have a big responsibility here. We appreciate you video so that I can just walk the camera I think. Did you wish I'm back I can? We can talk about fuck that guy. He's our own personal Baba duck his name three times father father. I don't know like snacks to it'd be fun. Co Pot figures. Fuck on the second I did want to focus on. Just how it's been for everybody's own shows on the network outside of G. Y. Like get getting all the like remote recording stuff figured out and like working and how. That's how that's been different because for at least two of the three windows we're talking about now. You're still around family and stuff which it's harder to do that. I would think than somewhere to record family family. Yes Feminine Family. It's all about family fans. No so okay I I just had a conversation with the wife and the sun and was just like hey. This is the only way we can do this right now. With adhering to every the regulations that have been issued out right so I was like. It's not going to be obviously all the time but this week the right literally last like four days. It's been more than it has been the entire quarantine but I've got I. I want to something it's part of. It's part of my life. It's part of what I love. I just appreciate if you would wouldn't mind just adhering to like the hours so that I have to do the thing and then and then that's it you know and I let them know win. I record when I'M GETTING READY TO RECORD. And there there was like an issue once but that was because they had conversation really hadn't happened and we didn't know how much audio is going to be picked up from other areas of the house. But since then this fine actually hundred is flow on me. We've already dropped to that we've done remotely and we're giving up the third one later this week. Look out for that and I mean the flow hasn't stopped and climbed up once I got comfortable and I and that was a big thing as overcoming the whole. Not Having the person right in front of you across me say well. I've noticed that even this recording. We're doing right now versus the first livestream. Gui that we did. It's definitely a little bit smoother. I talking to people and also I know with some of the rooms have done for the other shows for smack my pitch up and blues clues and well deeply upsetting easy. 'cause we're in the same room so that's yeah yeah it doesn't count. Sir Okay but also involved with that. There's a different issue. There's a different issue as far as like recording in that regard for us being in the same room. It's being able to literally put it off till whenever yes? We're around each other all the time and I'm still telecommuting. Thank you so much for your thoughts and this trying time. I'm a commercial and really appreciate the prayers most of all. Yeah it's important to deal with a lot. Yes we're saying I'm during the day I'm telecommuting until five thirty so we get to see each other but I'm still at work you know. So that's one thing but in the evening there's literally fuck dude like we keep. Go hang out with friends. We can't go to a restaurant. It's just oh look yeah. Luckily we're still not sick of each other. So that's awesome and make it happen at any time. No actually it's fucking wild not at all not at all sick of each other. I love every moment helped me Arabia time. We've got metal set up you all. I wanted to get the trophy talked on this second. Half with you on Audu. You're in for the. There's all this desmond waiting for you hop it's all about so just the first the first live show that we are the first show in person. I guess that we're going to be doing. It's going to be God. It may not be listenable and shit like I just. I just wanted to needs to be a free play in either way. We're GONNA be able to keep in cohesive fucking concepts for the first time fucking room together. That's another thing that's been kinda difficult with. This is that we're talking the whole thing with G. Y. pop culture and what's happening movies coming out stuff coming out and there's not a whole lot coming out right now. We do have some ideas that we have been talking about actually for the last couple of years that we can go ahead and do an on because fuck it. Why not? Why not? Why the fuck not had stuff come out in the La- within the last year that still makes it relevant to current pop culture? Yeah just say that. Thank God we got that Nick Cage and before Shiri hit the fan 'cause Yeah that was. That was the last the last one where we had you on nights got Dow. Yeah I know and the numbers the numbers for the Nick Cage episode or actually really good to hear about Nicholas cage is a tire is like. Here's a dumpster fire in himself. Self-implementing I do want to speak to a little bit about how the dynamic on the show has changed over the years a little bit that as we have tried to put a little bit on this episode specifically where it went from a six person panel for two hours when we started to four people for an hour and every other week for geeks under the influence with nights being in the inbetween weeks. And I think it's a much better format now personally. Better way better to have a designated. It's like it's like herding cattle or dealing with preschoolers whichever you want to use the Metaphor. We we have a designated time to be fucking lunatics and is worked out so much better for the fucking network honestly it has being. We're not jobs on the regular episode but we get you know Dick Swing and we night. It's all out we can resolve it all just lose your fucking minds versus having to have that in the main episode where it just yet and plus two hours mavs too much. I feel like I did a little bit of like. Oh this painting. This fence is really fun with you g nights whereas like hey we should put all the like fuck a Tude and hard to edit stuff into one many episode and call it nights. And you're like yeah my cool you can host. That is not as hard to Eh as you think. It is because in the true fashion of keeping the flow. Moving a lot of that has to stay in. Because it's part of it true true when you're trying to have a serious episode and get through all the actual contents having that in it then it's hard to because then you have to cut out. Try to cut out all the fluff and bullshit that was set in between to keep the content together. But when you have when you have a a literally a a podcast that is nothing but tangential then there's less you really have to cut you know. I've realized that down the road of doing July Nitra. I'm like oh I don't really need to cut that because it's part of okay. Fine the first few episodes. Fuck me up a little bit. I'm like I'm trying to make sound. You're fucking nights whatever it's GonNa fuck. It boggles various. We're we're dumb astles. Who were just ranting. It's amazing I love. I was just going to bring up that you know. When we started beautiful disasters we always just kept with three people just groups myself in guest and then as the format change with Dui from six to four. I devil is a lot easier. I knew I knew going into. It was a lot easier just having a three people. They're doing that so we went down to four. And you could definitely pick up just a lot easier to kind of go back and forth to kind of bounce off of each other so and then keeping that same format when moving like newly Muslim is base itself off of kind of the structure that beavers ashes and set up where you have to to hosts and then you have one guest and then in the interim shorter episodes again it kind of took took off from bureaus ashes. Where you've got the two hosts doing something together just to get the content out more frequently but it's just the two host doing it. Yeah it's it's been wild ride just looking at how differently it was back then versus how it is now and then everybody juggling multiple shows at the same time and like and I cannot begin to put into words how much I appreciate the work that everybody's put into getting this network as far as it has gotten I mean on on the wall behind me. Out of frame is Is Close Your eyes and imagine her awards and like letters of recognition. We've gotten because of geeks under the influence and all man that's still fucking astounding to me that we'll we discussed not talking about who we we got a letter from a senator over over geeks under the influence we did. I don't I still don't know how to actually do to at a Mike Have you thank you just? Don't listen to what the fuck also did you actually get a congratulatory letter to get under the influence and then start listing all the Shit we've said like they compare cock sizes in episode. Yeah and also folks don't let you I it's a great work environment. It's kind of like a chain gang. So there's that also this sorry white man see. I wrote to be next to you to make you got social distancing. Racism doesn't work when I do something I didn't get it so I actually. I don't even know how I would play it on the actual on the actual like screens with zoom chat and stuff. This is all like new. But I'M GONNA it's hooked up for audios you you should be able to hear it and I'll put it in camera. This is a very important thing that we got this year. that it'd be sharing for you. Wow Hey man is be Kevin Smith wishing a happy fifth birthday to the good folks of geeks under the influence. Man I record a lot of podcasts myself. When I'm not doing that I listened to geeks under the influence. He lied my part. You mother smirk is perfect. Also the he lied. Part is also a perfect. I'm not mad at Stephen Smith all day. We another thing we can do to. Hobbit is actually tomorrow. Just share that on Facebook to. Yep that's true We're we're going to be and also. I want to give a big shout out to our Buddy Carleton Who was able to get that that? It's very much appreciated That was a big moment for us as being big Kevin Smith Fans And also him being one of the big early adopters of podcasting To get the reason yeah seeing. I remember that Song. That's another memory we With with the five years is all of us going to see Kevin Smith at the national and just the inspiration from that alone like if he wasn't already inspiring enough to do this like just hearing him say fucking do it. You can do it already worse and there was are. We aren't dister Smith. Yes Sir tell us what to do next. Eat all the babies. We're we'RE GONNA eat the babies on the PODCAST On the PODCAST BACON FRY like Bacon. Yeah veal but for humans. It's what's for dinner. I did skip on Making a drunken scene for this episode because there isn't like a subject matter and also just with different panelists popping in and out and just it was going to be more time. Yeah so just not to worry about that. But I do want to as we're getting a little further into the episode. Talk about what we expect to happen with. You know Keith. Some of the influence with our separate shows moving forward. And I don't mean necessarily with Corentin but as far as like what we're excited to try to incorporate interviews that we're going to try to get you know that kind of thing For for the episodes nothing was okay. All right I was gonna say I mean you know. The first year of youth was astor's. We did do live showings at a strange ways. And that's something that grew to myself have definitely talked about trying to bring back where we're just kind of you know bringing out those B. Movies. Join it once a month. Getting people out there to and along with that. I think lowdown myself talked about trying to do a from the House and do one horror movie a month and showing off that so hopefully once were allowed to be around each other and something that we can work on. That is a big. I think that's GonNa be a big move a processors to get back to that Because I I went to multiple ones of those hours one right and for from the mountains of madness to also adopt that and to look at how he went to go pee baby bladder. The woman touching go for a second so he had to go look he was running out of here but for the mountains of madness. I think that'd be a great step up for us as well. Just bring 'cause I mean so there's GonNa be a different there's going to be communication and awaited you know. Make SURE WE'RE NOT. Overlapping with people disastrous. Because some of their movies. Some of their movies are on the higher realm. But there's tons of horror movies that I know people haven't seen yet or they want to see that just that haven't seen and I have a pretty big library so I feel like meals hunter so we we just assume o obviously everybody is seeing dead alive but there are people that have to live. Yes right there movies that we need to share with the public and we were we are definitely going to so between those two podcast. You will see movie nights whenever the world gets back to normal. That's awesome. Yes yes and we talked about you. Know once concept started back all God The one thing we haven't really had on From the mouths is interviews and we WANNA WE WANNA get some interviews. We're GONNA knock it out at some people. There we were planning on a few from the condit's gone canceled but twice. Hopefully you'RE GONNA cancel anyways next conned. That does happen. You know we want to get some some interviews with some of the people in the horror humanity that we hold a high regard exactly and that's definitely that will happen because they're so easy to talk to and they just they're they're they're ready to like talk so it's going to happen when it comes to my like. Briley just like. Hey you WanNa advertiser shit and talk and yeah all that Shit. Fuck it so one thing. I've heard you either. I definitely want to lean on here during the Corinthian especially is that we haven't been able to do any interviews. Gyn recently and there's a lot of artists right now. They're doing live streams doing what they can to make money in the midst of this so if we can do even anything to to let people know that this is happening. I know it was nice. Enough that Laura hope and the gold hope duo let us use a corn song. They performed live streamed on facebook As our intro for our last episode stuff like that that we can touch base with them maybe US new music for interest but also them talk about the struggles that artists are having creating content. I mean we. Luckily because we're a podcast just had to kind of like shuffle. Some stuff around to figure out how to do it because it's not it's not a life. It's not a lifeline for us right right right but you have these people that made a the made a career choice to just dive into their art and become Tattoo. Artists become just artists in general. And I think that got released when all this lockdown happened was non essential and in in in the realm of win society is possibly going to collapse due to a pandemic art falls into non essential. So it's really sucks for everyone that are mazing artists and they just can't do they need to do at this time. You know so like I mean. I know we've talked to two separate artists local artists that we've known about commissioning some art because I mean fuck it man like you know we support where you can. It goes to another thing of supporting local. That's like we are in a position. Where having the podcast we can utilize that art and they're making money as well You know so. That's this is another way to help your community absolutely I'm a makeup artist And so I've been out of work Throughout the shutdown and I had a friend. Who's a fellow makeup artist? Who had a brilliant idea And I would push anyone towards her business where she's basically doing zoom chat lessons where she's just teaching people who WANNA learn while they have downtime how to do makeup and it's brilliant. I mean she's enterprising and she's figuring out the way to make the money during this and I think that it's great and I kind of wish that I would've thought of it burst so many people that used to do that for just for free but no seriously now it is if I have a skill and it's a one and I can actually. I'm with you and I'm showing like no no that that's not exactly right. You try this way. Like that's fucking awesome got. I do utilize your skill and try to make something that we're making. You would never be that Nice when you go there. You built your fucking it up over again. What are you doing your fucking it up. I'm not doing you doing it. Your impression was soda all right. Let's work with that. Is a satellite bucketload wanted oppression? I wouldn't even have a camera when this is over. I definitely need to low down trying to give beauty tips played. That'd be I you put on the fucking foundation right. Yeah fuck this bullshit. You don't even see it and you gotta put fucking bullshit the Fuck. Can you brush it? Ellison L. Jackson is fine worry about the makeup another up skin hair care but take care fucking skim. You pieces of Shit Leah. Where's Coco Mitch? I think we should sure with this. Thou perfect survey thing for the quarantine. Trust me I M slowdown beauty tips. Come on I can provide you with the stupid. Ask questions that I get asked daily basis. So you'll be filled with a pure burning rage and you'll be able to really go go from there. I don't deal with stupid. Well I would have so much fun with that. I would love. Oh Man. Oh that's also something like speaking of when this is over in going back to like the day to day and stuff. We've talked about it. I about how it's going to be difficult to be able to people again. There's moments where being around large groups is going to be difficult at first. Just readjust to because I know her and I we I mean I think we both agree that we have trouble peopling now for sure can each other great. That's great but other people it's like. We don't know how English words work anymore like the subtleties of body. Language have lost all meaning to US anymore. Fair Yes yes. Hello Person. You are human info human person. How are You yes? I tried to make a joke to the cashier at the grocery store the other day but I forgot what it was like talking to someone. Who's not Mike and I think I scared her then. I came home and I was like that. Joke wasn't funny. Ha Okay we store for this giant bottle of high quality vodka. Everyone step it up above that. We're GonNa what the amount we're doing. We're going quantity man. You don't have kids so we're just getting Hora. I got to the point where I've gone to. Abc source of stores so much in the last like three weeks that the same clerks is there and she starts telling me about what's on sale. No Baba's Goddamn is a really there that knows me now and like all right. Here's your I got you usual like. I'm to the point where next week. She might have my shit ready to seen as buying ARISTOCRAT. That's all right. The norm of the eighty stores sitting out on the counter. So it's not even gold. Yeah Shit has gone downhill fast so today. Abc Storm we stopped by one that we were just passing on the way back to the house. And and so I haven't been to this one in. I don't know probably like fifteen years. And I put on my Halloween Pumpkin Jacko Lantern Bandanna because as a as a bearded man masks. Don't really do anything. They just sit nicely above my facial hair. And don't actually protect me at all so a Bandana and just took the Bandanna into my shirt and that seems to actually work better than anything else and so I'm walking into an ABC store like an eighteen. Hundreds bandit but like a weird Halloween Band Halloween bandit like I'm a Tim Burton cowboy going into the ABC's and I walk in and the gentleman that ended up checking me out. He's walking past an island he sees me and he. Does this like like how you doing today with this? Kind of like half turn like. Are you going to be trouble or you? Just being smart and I'm just like I'm doing great. How are you an and the change on his face like okay? Cool don't have to worry about you to look at him go partner fucking cavalry. Had with the Bandon walk into the store. Because you're allowed to do that right now cowboy hat with a Bandanna all SCO new Kurt. You Mean Ken Stephen. Three of us. That's not that's not a good look for me. So but yeah put on and go into her body county the best business to ski mask way anyway the cashier so it's like it's like it's fucked up version of home alone. We're we're the trick or treat bandits versus the wet bandits. Yeah see because you haven't dropped a single day Edgier by no. You're failing right now. What is going on and my brain is putting it is. It's a sad thing to see. I can't yeah I'm fading. I'm an extrovert man. This is like slowly killing me And imagine it's probably going to go for another month so halfon with that. Yeah we're lucky. Yeah Yeah we're lucky. If it's a month yeah we. We are still having increased cases. Yeah and just this reminder. Please stay the fuck home only lease stay the fuck on that note. A buddy of some of George WHO's out in California he Actually contracted covet on Shit. He's on the other side of it again he There was about two weeks there That he was out fully out of commission he luckily didn't have to visit hospital because California hospital right now are super overrun. And he's like I think in the La area so so he was able to deal with it enough that he was able to stay at home but he posted today. That you know it's no joke like did is no fucking joke. Stay the fuck home as somebody that he had contracted it and was out fully out for two weeks Just destroyed and he's bike around our age. You know like this isn't something that only is detrimental to the elderly. As far as for the the casualty rate is much higher with the elderly but there are people that are dying. Plus Your Shit Up. Yeah I'll absolutely. There is a guy who was friends with in High School. Just got out of the ICU. He was there for like two weeks. He's my age so he hasn't even hit thirty at and he's totally like perfect health. And he got like last rites because he was so close like you just don't know and now he's on the other side and it's amazing like nobody knows how it happened but he has become like a poster child he was like in the Washington Post for being like stay the fuck home thanks and it was only because he listened to geeks influence got out of. I the only thing that saved his life from somebody recovering. Govan working on all right. It's not their wives facemask. God Damn it coming on on what's up to the next you see. It's specific to our live events. Come out to our live events to pick up a face mask. Fuck the hat. A face mask their their sixty seven ninety nine true capitalist make it yeah raping everybody facemasks. That's his cheaper breath. There's the local local artists on AFC. They're doing wait. She pursued delays to get around some fun facemask. Have you seen some of the different ones out in late mouth placement over it? Imagine a face mask that literally said like a group of people wearing facemasks that said join us or die. I mean that a hold off on that slow bought Rachel One and it was all the DC well not all of them but the top like three D. C. female superheroes Supergirl wonder woman. Okay on it. So that's cool. That's definitely cool but also that is the most fucking American thing ever is. There is a global pandemic and America's like cool. We can put superheroes on the masks response to it because no shit final and I was like you know. She's going into the hospital to cove awards so she is like my superhero right now. So she's just as bad as as bad as bitches that actually have lit Ashburn. Quick to Rachel yeah that's racial any anybody that's working in the healthcare industry at all also and also concession like. I mean we gotta give Jen fucked. She's she's getting their ASS HANNAH TO KROGER. Grocery food to the essentially working their asses off and not getting paid nearly fucking enough snow true. Some hazard pay happening right now. That Jake euless. There's no hazard pay for half these people with grocery I mean the the amount of personal threat that is on them going day to day for people doing groceries and they're making grocery store money even well paying grocery stores. Don't pay that well. I mean it's grocery store earnings so everybody followed the what the CDC has said in face masks gloves that would be great and probably less risk for people working. But every time I've had to go in there and I based mass and loves and there are at least fifty percent of people that just don't give to Fox and that's risking. Everybody like you know. I know. They don't believe they don't believe that it's not easily. Look there's Pretoria's on with BANDANNAS. Ashli that to make fucking masks. Just do something but man when you go out there and like cautious air by risk in the PUMPKINS. He's GonNa do it. No now the Pumpkins or in the car. He is getting the Pbr Mass that he made that. I wear because I don't have a beard unfortunately and so it works for me. Unfortunately I would look so bad as with a giant beard. Come on all right see. It looks so stupid. No no not A. I haven't seen yet but oh God I have another beer. It's size to her head like a normal person and my two big. Do you want me to put a dude you liked. It needs to be a little lower on the face. Make it work properly. Pbr BANDANNA and when I went to the grocery store just feel fully fucking Richmond. I feel great about wearing it. Now you need to wash it before you wear it again. That's Kinda feast touches my face. We already both fucked technically. 'cause I've noticed Zoltan this isn't going on so I'm just saying hey I know. It's a bit exchanged stay tuned till the after show. He doesn't remember to turn of this too scary so so the. Cdc is not determined whether or not they can be transmitted through semen. So Amy Party and waste time to wrap up this episode. GotTa actually you're joking but actually it is about time for us to wrap up this episode. Talk About Seaman. Actually sorry one moment in hunter hasn't had a chance to share some geo either so I went one more and one of my favorite memories and it always makes me laugh. Even if I'm initiatives moods is you literally shutting down like Johnny Five while hooking up things at record and greatest fucking thing ever when he's nearly plugging things into the board Mike and his lab. He's in the middle of talking. And then you just falls back like in the middle of what happened. That's lily. What happened and it is the greatest thing ever and it was the most gangsta moment of his life. No different year. Those are different same here. Same retirement at night fucking year nude fucked up. You're you know the same night. Love your habit What are some of Your Grass Memories of Dui? So mine are when the hosts get shit faced. And I'M GONNA go with the Justice League. Yeah I knew you would sadly enough kyle couldn't be on there which I was banking on because I wanted some. Dc Board a defendant. It was a good reason why he was actually out with. That was the it was. It was for a good cause I remember we did are trying to lower ranking and we were reading off how much the VP is and kept drinking it and as we watched his head got closer and closer to the microphone until he had started touching the microphone and we realize our right words to kind of take over to ease shit faced trump just a few months ago when we had our nights lowdown gone. We didn't realize that trunk. She'll Kyle said something and they're lowdown ask Kyle. Who is it time time? Time supernatural time after time you got time and looking at hobby to going what the fuck is going on here. And I don't know and we realize Oh lowdown fucked up shit like some some erased. Apparently yeah that's always fun when the host gets shit face. I guess we're going with this the way for very good reason. That doesn't happen as much as it used to happen to. A problematic degree in the early days of G. Y. And I don't. I'm not mad about that. We needed to come from somewhere but I think as we started taking it more and more seriously the level of drinking changed there were still thrown down. We're still having fun. We're enjoying each other but really we are also very motivated to create a good product for people as well like we want people to actually understand the words that are coming out of our mouths and not be the his sued. I think he's No one wants to know that there are times that it gets away from us. That will happen from time to time but for the most part I think we're maintaining ourselves L. Abetter fun when it does happen. I think yes because you know. Then it's special and it's fun. If it was all the time I was just Kinda again. I just love to listen to this shit. Show NIGHTMARES SLUR FEST. And Not Racial Slur. Yeah now I do still listen to that. Geo Nights whenever I WANNA laugh. Because it's it's fucking hilarious. Manley once that happens. It's like ten minutes fucking called. When did you get wasted? When did you get we? Because I'm like I had no idea and you haven't wasn't joy nights go back. Ten minutes is when that's when we realized lowdown is fucking Shit. Yes it's worse. Say there's a happy medium between apologized at the end. You're like I'm so sorry people and I'm like is this how we usually end. Ui Nights how he went from that to like. We're fucking ear okay. There's gotta be some middle bed. I think the I think the actual phrase was you feel that that's a cocking that now that you've said it I know under percents. Please think big and poetry. Zad Real quick just overall I fucking loved doing the drug and scenes and one of seen each of us try to break each other with this dialogue is in just C- lashing the Nicholas Cage. When you destroy me. You had her out not be good ethics fucking the ouch part of that is just the timing and the new. I was inconsolable. Shane space. Because that's the one thing you can't really translate on CAST is Shane. Who hadn't been on in a very long time? Who and been around the drug and scenes being like what the talk in That's honestly that that is kind of the best way to sum up. Why we've been going for five years. Is that clearly? Everybody that's on the show Whether it be people that have their own shows come on and and enjoy it here As as a panelist on. Gui or friends of ours or or creators. Or whoever we have on that is an a lover of the subject matter. Everybody has a blast and created new friendships. Over the years with geeks on the influence Cajun from Newark. Propolis IS I. I consider as a personal friend now that if because she was a creator and we were creators and we had her on the show and then she guested on a bunch of shows now and she's incredible and she has podcast now to look for her on the newest episode of. That's coming out next week. Because she is the guest on that aspect but like that honestly even smash. I met him. He was friends with I think what hunter and Steven I think right before I s I brought him on but he is friends with hundred longer. Yeah okay come onto the star wars episode. Yeah Yeah and so. I met him because of the podcast primarily and now he's a close personal friend. You know that this is a family and we love talking Shit and talking about pop culture and our peak. Dems and you know this is. This is a burning fire inside us. doing this thing and it absolutely translates. It really does I I think our listeners really here that that we care this is important to us. And the people that come on see that and they have a blast and there's not as a single person that's come on for the first time that hasn't said. I would love to be on again like every single person that's come on. Gui has had a total blast being on the show. So Yup that that means something totally jus- and and I am honored that we've been able to entertain our listeners and meet new family members and create this little little bubble of weird that is the influence and a and a network over it. And I'm astounded by it and I'm astounded by everybody that's involved in it And we get on each other's nerves and we we pick at each other and we get frustrated but that is actually probably maybe only about ten to fifteen percent of the time the rest of it is just full love and support and and just excitement and laughing are fucking asses off so five years man finds fucking years. Five Years Insane. Yeah Hey five years five years we go on just fuck yesterday got hunter. I like. You're the only person without without a a network T. Shirt or network a banner of that. I know I don't know four. Shame it's appreciated. I appreciate everybody. That's been enjoying this. Live a nonsense for like an hour and a half. We're getting off here. Thank you so much for listening. Follow other other stuff at Gui PODCAST DOT COM and definitely. Let us know what stuff you want to hear from us during the quarantine because we are running low on stuff. That's coming out and we have our own ideas we're gonNA have some episodes but if there's something specifically that you as a listener WanNa hear then reach out to us. Tell us what you. WanNa hear and if it sounds like a rat episode idea. We're more than happy to do that. And it. It's a good time for us either way. So Definitely hit up the hotline at eight. Oh four five zero five four four eight four. That's eight. Oh Four. Five zero five four G. Y. Rate Review Subscribe all that stuff that you do with podcasts. 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"It's national code your cat day while they should probably make tomorrow neo sporran day or something to help. Prevent scratches hugs tried. This is today. Welcome to this is today. The podcast that features the stories that make this day unique. It's friday june fourth twenty twenty. I'm russ and here's what you need to know about today. Yeah national cheese day today and you know from ages. Two case dip to case diaz to grilled cheese. There's a lot of cheese stuff in fact there's two thousand varieties of cheese and you can make a ton of stuff out of it right while the most popular dish is that mac and cheese that i mentioned if you had an ad caso i mentioned that to head over to texas. Just go there today. Get some case. So it'll change your life. It's amazing there. I've had another places now specifically dallas. That's where you gotta go for that. Yeah okay guinness book of world records instead of giving you an eating you know. I mean we could talk all day about the two thousand varieties you know. I mean each one of them has a has a record of some sort but instead let's talk cheese scultures yeah The largest three thousand one hundred twenty one pounds three people put this together in louisiana in twenty. Eighteen was very cheesy sculpture. much like that joke about national. Hug your cat day is i mentioned earlier. Yeah they don't like eggs according to pet bay say. Don't hug them. It causes stress. I it's been a pandemic people. He could start hugging people now. I think i think you can get away with it but yeah hugging. Your cat causes them stress. That's what the mdc say. I'm gonna to do it anyway. i'm gonna try it again. We'll see what happens. Maybe i won't scratch up this time on national clean. Beauty day is well today and basically this is about choosing environmentally friendly beauty products. 'cause you know thing is we don't wanna see make up End up in the ocean. You know like your swimming out. There and a dolphin comes up with lipstick. We'd want to see that. Come on people National clean beauty day. Look up some ways to i. I don't know how to find that. I don't know what to look up so you do research on that one. It's also national safe day today. No it's not about the safe late. Will it kind of is okay it. It's about securing firearms in your home. So safe as a f. e. is an acronym for the s stands for secure all firearms in the home. The a stands for ask. The question about unsecured firearms were homes. Your child visits in the homes. Your child's a visits the reason why i chuckle at that is 'cause that's a really long thing i mean the acronym for this should be a lot longer but no so i guess it's just secure ask we'll go with ask on that one. The f. stands for frequently the e stands for educate you. We do need a little more on that frequently right so frequently talk to your children about the dangers of firearms and the e. educate and empower others. To be safe is caused me to look back backwards. There's a lot of bad acronyms out there. Like for instance the wisconsin tourism federation. Yes they use. W t f. as their acronym can you believe that How about this one department on aging. Do a come on. That's not the one you want to choose for the department of aging the other one here food assistance program will let you figure that one out all right. It's also national donut. Day today and there are a lot of places where you can get free doughnuts. Yeah okay crispy. Cream duck donuts. Dunkin donuts lamar's donuts and coffee Tim hortons voodoo doughnut even walmart's participating in this shipley dotes pink bach. Donuts maverick doughnuts Go get yourself some free donuts today and some of those places you don't even after purchase anything they'll just give you a donut absolutely free. God bless america all right. Let's take a look at our events this weekend. All right well. This sort of works for that old beauty thing. it's a world environment day. We catch our environments. We're here until you want mars. The united nations made saturday a day for encouraging worldwide awareness and action to protect our environment saturdays. Also the birthday of kenny. Jimmy wentz and mark wahlberg. Okay kenny g. is the oldest in that set sixty five wins forty two mark wahlberg. Turn the big five. How about that on sunday. National cancer survivors day. it's also national. Eyewear day national yoyo day. Yeah not like yo. Yo it's it's the actual yoyo paso mess around with your yoyo. On sunday. robert england turned seventy four and paul giamati turns fifty four on sunday. Okay let's take a look at our events for this day in history on a date in one thousand nine hundred. Twelve massachusetts became the first state to enact a minimum wage. Okay well kinda. I'm going to say china. I mean it was the first one so you know the first one. It's always like okay. This isn't going to be. You know that great though is going to happen you know. Yeah it wasn't. It was only for women and for children under eighteen and it really didn't have great penalties like very light penalties for offenders. So really you can do whatever you want with this thing but in one thousand nine hundred thirty eight. Federal minimum wage law kicked in. And in case you're wondering right now. What is the minimum wage. Seven twenty five in most states. It's fourteen dollars here. In the really expensive california we set the record for the highest minimum wage and The most expensive of just about everything else in california i remember I was making minimum wage back when i was in high school and minimum wage. Went up by twenty five cents. I was excited. I made like an extra two dollars that week. very exciting. all right. let's move now to nineteen eighty-four and something else. I was excited about back in the eighties. The release of the album born in the usa. This was one of the few records that i owned. Because you know back in the eighties. That's what we had to go by. I i really kinda grew up on cds. But i did have a big chunk of records in. This was one of the first ones that i got born in the usa. Very patriotic right. It's just it's just about being born here in the usa. Well actually it was written from the perspective of a vietnam vet struggling to reintegrate into society. A lot of people. Don't get that with the lyrics. I mean okay. It's a little tough. To understand bruce but it read the lyrics. Check it out. it's a it's interesting and You know it's not against it in the dark. you know. That's out dancing in the dark. That was also on that album. No actually it's actually that one is not even about dancing in the dark Bruce said that My song was about my own alien nation fatigue and desire to get the heck out of the studio. I had of the heck there Get out of his room and his record and his head and just live writing that album. It's such a classic You know you can picture the cover bruce. The flag is rear. That's like such classic album. So i'm sure it had to be a lot of struggles to put that together on this day in one thousand nine hundred four. I bet you the had a struggle for this one is well. Uc berkeley scientists clone. Small bits of a subspecies of zebra. This was the first cloning. They used some as dna from preserved skin from an extinct animal hundred years prior. Can you believe that. Yeah there's been a lot of animals that have been cloned actually including a dog. A- camel coyote deer and for some reason a mouse don't have enough of those come on. We don't need more if you need more. Go to my backyard. Let's see look at our birthdays afford today. Mollie king is thirty. Four bar. raphaeli is thirty six. I know i can never say russell. Brand is forty-six angelina. Jolie is forty-six as well and mackenzie ziglar is seventeen right. That is your look at june. Fourth is been a great week because not only. Did i get to do this. Podcast all week. But we got to put out a new episode of learning more which is linked in the description. Would love it if you would go check that out. I hope you enjoyed learning about today and a great weekend. We'll talk to you monday.

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169 - HEAVEN'S GATE: THE CULT OF CULTS director Clay Tweel and producer Shannon Riggs

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169 - HEAVEN'S GATE: THE CULT OF CULTS director Clay Tweel and producer Shannon Riggs

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Klay tweet and producer shannon rigs chronicle a three decade long saga of marshall applewhite and bonnie nettles also known as do and t recruit scores of people to their alien religious cult led try alien religious cult interviewing former group members and family left behind the four part series goes beyond the headlines of this. Little understood stood group that ended in a mass suicide and clay. Toil is a documentary director producer. At a who's worked include make belief print legend personnel subject favorite finders keepers which we will definitely talk about in this episode out of omaha. The innocent man and gleason is features have been distributed by showtime netflix amazon studios. And we just stars as well. So producers shannon rigs is the co founder parkside films with klay twelve. She produced gleason and the innocent man series. Shannon was an independent producer working across narrative feature films branded content and music videos are participant in the sundance faint female filmmaker initiative shannon is honored to be a member of women in film and actively mentors emerging filmmakers. Welcome to subduction clay. Thank you thank you. i have one. I got one question to open this up and this might just end everything. Are you to aliens. I mean we're all made of stars so yes so yeah star on stars. Hey so there's a theme here. We have a team. Try to get that stars money. Yeah maybe you believe in. Aliens exist ideal. I think it would be pretty egocentric to think that we're the only sentient beings and the in the universe. I don't know shannon. what do you think. yeah. I think anything's possible. That's kind of my motto for most things. Have you seen him. Have you seen a ufo. No okay. I like when i was young. I felt like i saw one when i was like ten. But you're young at it was very short in a. I don't know for sure we're in front of my house. It was like in your house. I grew up in charlottesville. Virginia i remember looking up at the sky and like this is like at dusk one day with a friend of mine and we were like saw something moving around and very you know in a way that an airplane could not move though who knows man who knows i love. I love alien cults. I love the call to have something to do with aliens. Those are my favorite of all the colts. Those are my favorites. George you have a favorite cult genre you. I was thinking about how we interviewed. Jodi willie very early on in the show and we're talking about noon areas. Do you guys know about you narrates. They're they're more all they so they made their own films and they had one of them like somehow worked at early worked on star wars or had access to some of the same technology so there. They made like a very early film of their belief of the aliens. Coming down and you know like a caveman interacting with aliens and they had like pretty good special effects for like the late seventies. Yeah one of the more interesting things for me. In digging into heaven's gate was like understanding. Just how prevalent. Ufo allergy and the interest in ufo's was in the seventies and how just like claiming that as part of your belief system fraud a lot of people and brought a lot of attention about a lot of interest and it was crazy. Like the i think the raelians and there's there's a ton of very small groups the that started with our attention because of the ufo's right. You mentioned jared of the gods right in film. That's mentioned and i that's like a pretty big one. I mean there's so much that sort of comes out of that that book. I think i d about like kind of like ancient aliens and pyramids and all that stuff man. That's a part of the first episode where we battled forever to try to just squeeze it as much as we could like. Try to chop it down the you could. You could do fifty minutes just on that. Here's here's one that popular one right now. As far as theories go is the simulation theory. Like how can you. Can you believe in the aliens and the simulation theory at the same time to me. They seemed like they could be exclusive. You know. I don't know much about this at simulation theory but i do i enough. The glitch in the matrix yeah ashes. Yeah that's the so campfire in ross. Dinner interesting they produce both of these. Okay great yeah. We've had on the show before we really. I really wanna talk to them about glitch in the matrix two but yeah aliens okay. Well i was gonna say. There's a through line. I think between the films of is that i've seen. Which is this series heaven's gate and finders keepers which is sort of like taking something that you could on its surface. Just look at as like a sort of a morbid premium like ninety s. There were memes. I of but this was like a memo most of its era late nineties but then kind of like digging into the and having a lot of empathy for the people that are involved. And i think that's what i gather is like an approach of yours. I don't know if you you're very conscious about thinking about it that way. Yeah do you wanna speak on on that. That empathy part. Yeah but i'm showing. I talk about this all the time in you know Complex characters in in trying to understand essentially like why people do what they do lead lead you towards trying to find the humanity in everybody whether at third the quote unquote antagonists of of a story. Like you know in finders keepers johnson. Shannon you can find lots of faults in both of those guys but they're also just eternally human in their flaws and in their vulnerability in which they talk about themselves in situations. They were brought up in. So i mean i for me yeah. I'm just trying to trying to find a store trying to find some way to present a story that that is allowing the audience to connect to the to the people that you're seeing on screen and You know like at a very core level just trying to like foster that connection. Yeah yeah i was thinking about how. There's like this another thing that you do. That i really enjoyed was the music choices and i think anyone who seen the film like. They're very fun. I in my mind the funny but they're not like totally manage to not make a joke out of the whole thing which is like ultimately it's about like a bunch of thirty nine or i didn't realize that until i watched this. That was more than thirty nine people. The people that that went after they saw what happened. And they're like. I'm still going to get this so there was sort of these pretty. I liked the use of a us. Lesley gore you don't own me as one as one of the rose and it was just like man on the nose in really like dark away but it's like it adds. There's something funny about some of this stuff but then you also have to bounce it out with the kind of seeing the family members and how they're dealing with it. Did you think about like the humor in this. When you were started working on it or what would track did you to it was there. Was there some element of that. Sure sharing. Do you want to comment on the music women. We talked about a bunch of music. The music thing was a big part. But i would say needle drops in general are very very important to clay and you actually have a really interesting theory about it. Clear that i think you should talk about. Oh oh sure. I know what you're given my one of my many theories that like people bring at their own sense of emotion in style to any psalm so like if you put in score that's brand new or you put in a sound alike to you. Know to kneel drop then people don't have that emotional connection to be able to say. Oh i remember when. I was in eighth grade and i love that song and i used to drive with the windows down. Like there's all these things that are connected to these songs in these memories that that everyone has and so you're you're sort of playing off of that and piggybacking on their people's emotions by using these These songs and so. I like i've i've in my career of done it both ways. I've tried to save some money and you know take things down in things. Don't land as well. And so. I really fight hard if i if i try to be conscientious about it but also use the songs to greatest like emotional impact. Go ahead please as it's going to say so even if you only here a few notes of over the credits which is the case with some of the songs in heaven's gate you still leave the episode with your own emotional baggage that you're carrying from watching the episode as well and i i would imagine a helps tie in everything i mean. There's the matic usage for songs right where you're trying to tie in a theme or button it up at the end or put it in a nice bow you guys start with like a list of faves and just go like too expensive too expensive to you know. See how that works. i also. I've never heard. I like needle drops is that that's like that's where the song comes in right. That's the editing where the sun comes in we needle drops came from we. We just started like organizing on our drives over the years. Like score and needle drops the needle drops are like popular music and then scores. Its own own thing. But i love it a love. That word stops like focus on music a lot. I probably when. I decided like heaven's gate is going to be the next project. We're doing the first thing. I did was go to spotify and start making playlist of things it could be you know Could have heaven in the title or evoke. My memory of being you know finding out about the group in ninety seven Just i i. I started to compile lists probably like forty songs just within that afternoon. Did you cake going the distance. That's like a ninety s song to me now. I love that song though clay. I'm going to put you on spot. We're making a fifteen second doc about using the aliens out front when you're ten years old. What is the needle drop as as we go to black. Oh my goodness ten years old. So it'd be ninety one so much good music vote. Is that as nirvana in yet. Ninety one yes. Ninety one nevada is abdul your other option. I mean dj scott catch should be as we fade to black when we hear besides this young klay scream. Yeah like green day. I don't know that nirvana probably never something like men who sold the world was something we had on our list that i would have loved to us there. We go you. did it hired kid. Thanks so now in the process where you pitched this idea or did you pitch this idea so shannon. I had just finished innocent man with campfire and roster stein and as we were finishing that up. We're like in the office in russia's aka a we just got the rights to this ten part podcast done by stitcher And he's like. I think you'd like it mean shannon. We talked about on innocent men the community that we are profiling. The town was very religious. It had some like religious That we talked about throughout the couple years of tickets to make that. So ross knew we had a tendency to to be interested in that kind of seam and we listened to the podcast that it was really interesting really well done And and also found out that there's some surviving members. And i think that the show and you can talk about this but like frank sawyer. We're sort of the the heart of what we liked. Yeah so being able to actually listen to the podcast. I was a good way to know that we thought that It could be a series because there were so many things that you wish you could see while you're listening to it which is always a good sign that it's worth exploring which is also a question that we ask immediately do these materials exist. Can we get our hands on them. And so then that was the next step for us was to ask. Let us see what archive there is audio. There is and we started digging through that. And i felt like it was a good project to take on to use shared research with the team. That made the show which is glenn. Washington's host pineapple streets also when the producers on that. Yeah so that's interesting. So the company got the rights to the podcast right. This is sort of like a thing that happens. I don't have people know in like traditionally like if someone like a story about some weird thing in like an all weekly. That person would end up getting a producer credit or something if there was a film made of it. I don't know if this is like a common. I just learned about this a while ago. But is that sort of the case and this sort of situation i think so i mean you know the the produced main producers of the podcast also got credits in sort of did their did their own deal and we're able to be involved with the ip that helps generate And they were great a producer. Dianne hudson who worked on the podcast. Also came out in the field a little bit with us but also had developed a lot of those relationships with these people who over the years of the last twenty years. Don't feel like they've been treated the best by the media. Family members and former members who've been made fun of or their story framed in a way that was divisive or just sort of making fun of them So facilitating that relationship in being able to start the project to know like okay. We can talk to these people. Diane has told us that we have access to these materials. We have access to these people to tell the stories again on camera. was very reassuring. a good base from which to like good base of knowledge to start from nice. Yeah there's so many characters to keep track of like rights notes down about this. I'm like well firstly. There's like forty people and then the main group and then all the people that are survivors. And some you know family members of survivors. It's like so as you talk of. I appreciate that you also brought in a lot of people that were like experts or more like from the sociological or anthropological. Angle about cults. And i think that was a great context to bring and yeah. I think there is like a lot of like there was some criticism with the nexium about like how there wasn't as much of that context you'll stuff so much centered on people that were like kind of like trying to like build up a little bit of a case for themselves of like you know that they were. I got a whistle blower kind of moment. That wasn't the case in this case. Obviously but yeah yeah. I'm also. I'm also very aware of just putting expert talking heads into into documentaries because i feel like that can be super dry and be like unless dropping some sort of really acute knowledge the landing and resonating and powerful way it usually throws me off a little bit but the fact that the sociologists that we talked to you either a infiltrated colt themselves or be were in colts. Themselves in had personal stories to rela- in order to like or met some of you know had personally counseled some people that got out of heaven's gate So i try to make it as organic as possible. So it's not just like i went to ten years of extra schooling Were you very interested in called before this Not particularly I think you know. I have a I'm i'm curious about belief systems and religion. Like i really loved the writings of lawrence right. Who did going clear The book about scientology heels did looming tower. Which is about nine eleven in al qaeda. And what like. I was thinking about both of those books. There are some of my favorites but really both of them are the same story of how our ideology starts in a pretty benign situation. benign set of beliefs and then usually due to human ego gets perverted an evolves in a in a drastic way and ends up completely different from where it started and that fascinates me. And so you see that in heaven's gate over twenty two years so i. I didn't even know that. Heaven's gate lasted for twenty two years. I just knew the ninety seven suicides and figured it was only run for a couple of years but in listening to the podcast in understanding. Like i said the the culture of the seventies breeding all these types of groups with this type of a ufo Ideology attached to it. I just thought it was fertile ground for for a story and and understanding that evolution. It seems it seems like It seems so very california when you like to me like like seventies california's just like surfin longhaired drinking on a beach and seen in a cult. Right i mean you grew up in california right shannon did and that is in part. What made me interested in the project. I had such a vivid memory of this happening. I grew up in riverside california. But i was in los angeles by the time. This happened but it was everywhere. It was in the news everywhere and it was made out to be a joke as we all know the nikes and all of that. So when i heard the podcast i was so interested to learn the other point of view on it and to hear the stories that they never talked about back. Then i think that's what really caught my eye. Yeah so it was it was. You didn't hear about having skate. Pre ninety seven. It seemed like it was kind of under the radar not that many people knew about nationwide until the mass suicide when it was just cemented on the news i hadn't heard about it before the suicide but now that i've having made the show i've heard stories. Some people have said. Oh yeah you know that they had heard about it or knew somebody or had a family member who had shown interest. But at the time. I hadn't heard of it while they're there. Was this big explosion of media attention and seventy five seventy six and that. I think you know got national news attention. And then they went underground for while. But there was a made for tv movie by guiding gary sherman called the mysterious to with john. Forsythe it was based on t. Ando proselytizing in the late seventies and that that was on like an nbc Movie of the week. Sunday night movie and so that is on youtube. You can watch for free with. What are we talking like. Seventy seven us shot seventy eight and then came out in eighty perfect. Yeah i mean it's it's it is it's great and we interviewed theory sherman Did not make it into the show. It's awesome Yeah it's it's really. I found it a super fun to watch. I can only imagine who the supporting cast was in. Nineteen eighty like farah fawcett scared uber. It's the guy who played freddy krueger. Robert robert england's in it and one of the guys from chips is in it person. Yeah yeah delivers. that's great. Sounds like that's awesome mysterious to was Film that blind made all been really interested in strange things going on. I came across these several articles about two people who call themselves going in. We're going around collecting followers. The serious b-movie johnson's playing dolled the so appoint plan found out about it. I don't remember us. Pacific thing that i thought that fictionalized the boeing peop- character to the point that i can really make a strong statement about cults and for me. That was the real thing as there's always room for desperation alive whenever their desperation is and when somebody comes to you and has a a remedy prescription uphill for you to take. That's going to get rid of that. Desparation you'll swallowed. Hey folks sorry to interrupt the show with a plea but we'd love to ask for your support. If you enjoy listening to subject would you please take a second in support us. Unpatriotic after five years of recapping amazing documentaries the cost of running the show is growing and we could really use your support. And as a thank you. We have some cool gifts. So please go to patriotdepot dot com slash podcast and support us with even as dollar a month that's p. At are owen. Dot com slash. 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They weren't that kind of their their celebrate. Couple i'm like okay. So they were like yeah. It was a very weird. I throw my own judgment of weird. I mean yeah. It's pretty bizarre At the relationship between Perf and bonnie t indo. Yeah there. I mean i think a lot of this The combining of world both t and does marshall applewhite in bonnie lu nettles world views. Were you know. She had this background. He had this very fire and brimstone pentecostal Father and grew up in that way but but he was also a closeted gay man and so that costs a lot of inner conflict I think 'cause a lot of this is my own sort of armchair psychoanalysis of it. But it you know he. He had a lot of self hatred and he was trying to. He didn't like his body. So part of the belief system that he's creating with this woman is how do i di- divorce myself from this body that i love so much and and that was part of the core tenets of like leaving this earth leaving changing chemically changing your your body to be a pure pure being and so you know again like it started out. In a way that that was not advocating for any castrations or any of the like suicides any of the the really darker things that come in decades down the line but it was. I think the genesis of it was part of that psychology of of del I've seen some writing says that. They think that you know bonnie a not kind of mitigated some of the more narcissistic or like messiah complex elements of of applewhite. And it seems like you guys would kind of agree with that or we can assume so. But we'd the unfortunately we don't know that much about t but it does seem her daughter certainly thinks that's the case and we can say that things did get much darker after she left so that would prove to be true and then how much they had to pivot the whole ideology even the titanic. Well she died of cancer but that was separate from everything else has gone like they had to pivot all the time. That's also was fascinating like the fact that like you can keep track of group because they kind of changed names a lot and then there was just like was it just like meet me on a mountain or something like that like i like. How does that even free internet free like pagers. How are you coordinating any of this stuff. It's just it's a billboard at the food co-op at the hippie. I mean that's i hear you man. I was fascinated by that to the podcast gets into a little bit. But i'm like the early days of like everyone travelling around there's no centralized communication system. It would just be like if you just so happen to make it to this town and see this scribbling on the wall where someone left a fire. Then you know the number to call which is like to a payphone. Where in a town. Where team might be like the great war dead. Yeah we're in and out the you know I remember one of the sociologist. Robert baulch Who really has kept tabs on for a long time. Said that there was one person that like lost track of the group in the first year of its existence and then when when the group had the committed suicide and then there was this reunion that was created. This one person like reached out and contacted ammos. Like i've been looking for this group for twenty three years. I've still a believer. i like. i didn't know what happened to them. I could never find them again. It's crazy. pr surprised like seems. Like if i was like a savvy full alien called like hanging out in san diego ad in like the rolling stone magazine reader. The san diego reader creeper magazine. You know maybe now. I feel like i feel like that's what the seventies and eighties was all about was magazine back of the magazine advertising day. They also did a very nineties thing. Which was they created a satellite. Tv show in the early nineties. All i can think about is like my uncle who had like a giant satellite. The took up his whole front yard like being able to. We had one. And i had my other brothers just to turn had that big dial jeddah turn. That's awesome. That was such a big deal in the ninety s was like a local access channel or something out of your basement. Yes that's hilarious. Also like i didn't remember this. I kind of this from the time but like yeah they built. I didn't realize that people that were tech savvy enough in that group that they actually like me know build their own websites and built websites for other people. That's the someone's got an invoice. That company like probably scrawled on like some carbon copy or something like yeah one website three hundred and then that paid for them to stay in a mansion like the the financial part of this is also. I mean as someone who has done a lot of things for two decades that no one understands. Like i don't even understand myself. Some girl guided on a hope that something's going to work out after twenty years but like just how did they organize like people didn't really basically have closed or money for a lot of the time. It's pretty fascinating that these sustained it for so long. Yeah i mean they're they're lifestyle evolved. It was like they were living off. A trust fund from one of the members for many years in that started to run out in the new started to to do computer coding. Which at the time was very novel and very lucrative they had their business was called higher source. That was the name of their like. Llc you whatever that they ran other funds through but they also were on they literally were on the move every six months at most For twenty years because they were constantly trying to of avoid authorities and stay away from you know the irs being able to track them down. Stay away from Families being able to find and Kidnapped their their family members back from them which was the thing that was happened to a lot of course back in the late seventies and eighties. So they were. They were living in a state of a little bit of paranoia and fear from the authorities throughout and that made them very nomadic and made their like income and lifestyle. Really just like hard living. I i used to be pretty obsessed with like deprogramming like when you refer to like the kidnapping and i didn't think of it as kidnapping was first hearing about it and thinking about that makes sense but like yeah i guess i to today in twenty twenty one. Can you d program someone or is it just nonconsensual kidnap like. There's a lot of questions that come up. like with. like even just like people make fun of their. They're they're weird names their odi names a little bit but it's like is that just as valid as as an someone legally changed her name now like. There's sort of like a lot of questions. I think that are weird. Ninety s or the way that it was treated in the ninety s is may maybe a lot of reevaluating what was going on in the ninety s under today's lens in a way we're having twenty five year like look back at. How did the media totally botched. It's kind of like the same stuff with like you know. Princess diana now like an ruling. It like oh yeah. The media was complicit in sort of Minimizing and dehumanizing these people. Yeah i there's lots of parallels. I mean they're doing a story in making a show. The parallels with how the media treats people in and People have different views and thirst like religious parallels there's parallels to you know the the the cunanan trump of it all and seeing the ways in which people are manipulated in leaders are given power. So it's a there's a lot to chew on. I think that you know shannon were were in discussing. We discussed this a lot. Make an show but like there's only so much that you can really delve into so we're trying to give little doses of of a few of these things. Is there something that happened. While you're filming that you want you like i. I wanna make a nother. Doc series about this serb a tangent a branch. That happened where you're like. This could be and other great doc series. I mean i don't think so shannon. Do you remember anything that we know. I don't think so. But i will say that. What has come up the most since putting it out has been the parallels to cunanan trump and that has and there is a series about that now but but that. That's the thing that i think people have asked us about the most and we did. I would think like whoa you guys you know. Let me know if i'm wrong. But while you're doing so much research on heaven's gates and then you equated to q. On realized that have engaged was a call to and it was kind of manufacturing because someone's identity crisis or self loathing and cunanan israel so like totally the wrong they. I don't know why people asking us about this. Did you have to weigh that a lot. You know i've been thinking about making a doc about a pizza place in new jersey that runs a pedophile ring. But i still looking for it back. Tom i think is a sitcom i m. Yeah that would. I mean just saying that. I'm like i would fuck and watch that doc. Love to watch the duck. That's because it's i love weird americana. I don't know if we haven't discussed this. But that's my eight my favorite. That's a term. I've come up with in. i don't know if there's a better one. But i love weird americana stuff into to me. The pizza gate is part of that. It'd be true crime slash weird americana and finders keepers is in my mind just classic weird americana or king of kong. You know or american movie your any of those kind of films. Yes i like americana to like sort of that dark comedy the certainly for finders keepers. We were delving into like a southern gothic vibe. 'cause it is get morbid in weird and So yeah like that tone was in working in. That tone definitely helped in trying to tell heaven's gate. I gotta i gotta bring up another thing. I dug up about this like you really like their overlapping too. Our favorite documentary like worlds. Because what is the connection with. Billy mitchell and finders keepers is like really do some connection to billy mitchell from king of kong right. I think billy for our kick starter was generously offered to donate a certain amount. I think he was signing some some doubted draft posters and some hot sauce and statue liberty ties. Yeah yeah billy. Billy did in some small way help us raise some money to to be able to go shoot finders keepers. Oh wow that's awesome. Let's did you work king kong. I did yeah. I so king of kong was the first. That's sort of what. Got me involved in in documentaries to to give the quick origin story for me i moved out to la From virginia in two thousand four los angeles that's los angeles listeners. And i moved out here. And i wanted to be. I thought i wanted to work in the art department. The production designer for fictional films. And i had worked really briefly on a movie that was shot in virginia. That the director of king of kong. Seth gordon was editor on. And so. I'm when i moved out here. Seth was like what do you wanna do. How can i help you. And and and here's like here's final cut in aftereffects if he can learn knees. Maybe i can find you somewhere. I cool few months later. he's like. Hey man i've got this footage of these forty year old dudes playing donkey kong. Would you watch it and just log it and help help out. Yeah sure so. I mean like that began a two and a half year journey from working on that movie and it was I mean very few people made the crew is basically like seth was director ed cunningham as producer Agai luis lopez. Who i've worked with many times was Shooter editor on it. I was like assistant editor. i made a song. That's in the final movie. Gummy needle drop gummy substances. I'm officially a bmi artists. Still cashing those checks. Yeah i got a forty dollar check last year and you needed help make finders keepers right torso so that was for me. That was like watching being a part of that. And seeing how people responded to like this weird low stakes high stakes story alike. People just love the characters and it really resonated them. There's the underdog story And so these like just larger than life character is really struck a chord with people and that cemented my love of docs and i started shortly after directing my own And getting further into the world of nonfiction we. You had all surprised. And how how big king of kong was when i mean. Oh for sure it was crazy. Yeah we had no idea that this was going to hit in any way but what had what what had happened. Was there was a dvd of for our sundance submission cut got passed around hollywood and a bunch of people and like agents and their assistant started talking about it and that created this underground sort of seen for before it even come out and it got a lot of attention that way and i just remember being at comecon. They got bought by picture house and new line and they put up a booth for at comic con in the summertime. And i just remember looking around big mike. We have a two story booth for donkey or donkey conduct. Bananas awesome. Yeah could not believe it was it was It's it's wild to see how well they did. Yeah it's a classic modern day documentary classic. That's awesome only shit. That's amazing and then we you know i wasn't there a follow up the son of donkey kong or something before i don't know what a nigger doc which has some of the same people in it. Yeah yeah the referee guys in it. Walter yeah i think somewhere on my computer. I still have a medley. I made all of walter's original music guitar. This is great. I love this so much shannon. We actually we since we're talking about like getting into film. We were teasing earlier. We were talking about you. Spike lee and worked on cloverfield. Are those connected or no. Those are not connection but my first job out of college. I was very lucky. I'm one of the people in hollywood who got a job off of the job list. Don't know if you've heard of it. But it's this thing that gets circulated around town and a job listing but nobody ever gets jobs off of. It is rumor mill which how hollywood is that. Yeah but i actually got a job off of it and it was working at spikes company forty acres and a mule. I was very fortunate. Dream come true. This was in early two thousand and yeah so worked there for three years in development and We made a few movies love and basketball. Which is one of. My favorite movies. Came out like the month after i started. So that was my first movie premier. That i got to go to his very exciting and i worked for a few years there before leaving to work with a line producer. Named guy right. Who's now my mentor. And it is through him. That i worked on cloverfield which was a few years after that can you. This is something. I've always wanted to know and you can probably tell me what does a line producer do. I have no idea. What a producer does i can tell you. A line. producer is in charge of the budget of film. But i would say more who way. They're the middleman between the creative and the money. So they do create the budget alongside the accountant and the production manager. Production manager handles a lot more of the below the line crew hiring and then the line producers job i think in my understanding of it is to make sure that those two worlds can meet up and the creative can have what they need but they can still stay on budget so it's a budget thing. The word line is confusing. Yeah it comes from above the line and below the line. They're in charge of the lines. Clever hollywood i could get jeff hollywood. Yeah it's awesome okay. I've seen it in credits forever. And i've always wondered what that meant. Yeah line producer. Yeah that's how i met was. Actually she was working for guy as the line producer on for christmases. Which is the first movie. That seth did. He directed the king of calling. After after kong. He directed this big budget. Studio comedy. with reese. Witherspoon and vince vaughn. And he was you know he's very laura loyal guy. He found a job for me where i was like photo. Shopping things to be in a to be in a prop is got me got me work. Which basically man. I was just like playing poker on prop for a couple of months hanging out hanging out on set and shannon was was there and And that's where we met. And that's did you guys come up with your first project. Then no took a couple of years. Yeah we became friends then. And i would say i project that we did together was actually a short phone called storage. That klay directed narrative short. That's the first time we worked together. Oh yeah it's awesome. That's that's how you style. It should be done. It should be on the doing nothing getting paid and coming up with your next idea. Yeah that's that's how hollywood works. I think so too. Yeah more or less crew always eats i. There are rules to this stuff that's transphobic. I trans poets. I owe you just blew my mind. Transport crew talent transfer talent crew that transport talent crew pruitt's last man. I just got it. All backwards aren't just telling never mind. It doesn't matter. I was just pontificating the other day about like there's three three three months on sets like no no what you do know your lines includes i so i just got it all back before inherently i mean. If you're polite you let people do tend to let the crew cut in front of them if you do nothing or onset rhyme clay. You might have on on nope. He's no. i let everybody go in front of me. I was last. Because i i was. I was just skating by not too much. Yeah so there is some truth to what you're saying you're not okay. All right yeah okay. I didn't completely lie about that. So then what. What year did you guys start putting heaven's gate together with just a couple of years ago that you'd started assembling. Yeah two thousand eighteen. I think is when we first started talking about it. And then we compiled some materials and Talk to some of the former members made sure we had a sense of like what the tools were that we had to tell the story. And then we went out and The folks a campfire and stitcher. We all went out and pitched it around town and Hbo max and cnn Just even in the room of pitching it like we. We had interest. But i think that in that room i distinctly remember them getting and wanting to protect the tone of what. We're talking about powell easier than than any other place that we talked to. Just you know. We don't wanna make fun of these people we wanna be. We wanna be like understanding a new. The story in a new light. You know everyone in the room which is like yes nodding along. You could see that. We're on the same page so that was really nice and that was that was the beginning of putting it together sort of in early two thousand nineteen. I wonder i'm always wondered about this. Like how hard is it. Would it be for you guys to make documentary about. Let's say someone that you think is guilty and not manipulate the footage reflect that. Let's say you're making the next woody allen duck now i'm joking but play but like like what if you thought someone was doing a true crime duck and you think someone's been like how do you not present footage or evidence or a narrative that sways. I mean that's hard. I think one of the things that i think about a lot is Verna hertzog talks about this a lot. Which is taking the taking the audience on the journey that you go on the filmmaker in telling that story taking them on the emotional ride. And so if i come in as somebody's guilty i'm going to try as much as i can. Try to break down my own. Preconceived notions of my head. And maybe i'm going to find something that makes me doubt that which i didn't want to relate that experience to the audience and even if at the end they i still think that they're guilty there does need to be some dynamic shifts because otherwise it's just a hit piece or it's just you know polemic essays on guilt interesting so you would eat with filmmaker. Would you take the time to turn the camera to to yourself and say a in the film and say no. I try not to do that i. I'm not advocate and that came up during innocent man to because we're having a hard time trying to figure out how to tell that story and great duct. That story is insane. Thanks yeah but it was it was. It was hard to tell. The a lot of people couldn't talker. Wouldn't talk and then so you have to find new avenues. I mean i remember distinctly telling shannon like. Oh now i get why people put themselves in their movies to. There's there's like a shortcut to be able to narrate something or yeah just to put a fine point on something as opposed to relying so heavily on other people's words. I was gonna say that. I think that's when they noticed. Like you know with the difference between the podcast version of the story and your version is that you have a very involved narrator in the podcast. Which i think is really important for audio. Anything helps shepherd everything along an audio but maybe wouldn't've worked as well in this situation. Obviously because it's like one person who was like. His relationship was that he had grown up in a similar type of group. But it didn't really have specifically to do with the the individuals in this case. I mean if you set an exercise that we did was go back and listen to the podcast and see where glenn washington was filling in the gaps. Like we love the podcast but you also have to see. He's tying the room together through his narration throughout. And so we're like well. We have to get that practically from the people that were interviewing in order to tell the same story and we have to get it just as clear and concise as you write a script. No no i think. The way that shannon i work is somewhat different. We don't we don't use a writer We don't rely on like story producers that heavily or at all and a lot of our stuff. It's really just trying to hash it. Out between the editor directors producers and seeing what the story is presenting itself as from the footage that we have I love. I love the like outlining process and trying to to you know. Get the index cards out. Put him on the court board and like you know that i get a lot of energy that that but no no sit down and script when your commission animation though. That's got to be where you're just like dealing with all this stuff you don't have footage for right. You're just like okay. There's always things. We don't have footage for that. We want to illustrate somehow. We got pinned together an animation. I don't know how you how do you do to kind an 'cause that's gotta take the longest time to write just getting the animation stuff queued up. That is true. I in this case. I remember clay saying that. He wanted to try something new with heaven's gate like do something that he hadn't done yet in his work and so that's where the animation came before we knew where were they weren't wasn't decided upon once we had our holes. It was an idea. That was like if i am. We spent a lot of time trying to figure out Who an animation style. That guy really fit in where you needed to see an animation style but also the rules for the animation. Yeah Yeah i'd like to be. I feel when i'm watching. Docs if i feel it's just like oh. They don't have anything to cut to. They use animation and that lessons. Mike of be animation. If you're successful able to hide that that's when it feels like. Oh it's a choice it's purposeful and so we were. We were trying to figure out Because we knew we wanted to us animation and find the right spot for it you know what are the rules for which when we can use it throughout the whole series and so we were trying to make it live in this dream. Scape of you know being inside. Somebody's head remembering something. Like yeah like a memory like a dream and So it just wasn't like we don't have a shot of the outside of that church in seventy seven. We're going to animate another question related that which is like the designing structure. The story like do do you think ahead to like this is gonna end up. Being ten parts is going to. It's going to be being four parts and was like four sort of like some landed. Honored like kind of took the your cork board three by five roaches chunk these into four chunks. The bummer news is that you do have to. They make you decide. The number of episodes of before you get into making the show mitchell's always ver- yes which is very hard and that is in part. Why you see. So many doc series with too many episodes many or something because you pitch it with that many man and always works. You can go over but going under is a is a nother ballgame. It's thirty six part series. You're gonna love it. Grizzly bears they wanted man in the woods. Wow idea that seems so counter intuitive and that all different like all the streaming services. It's kind of like the standard way it goes now. I mean that's been our experience and that's word on the street of how it's been but don't know innocent man was what six parts five. It was six six parts. Yeah could have been. It could've been five. I'm glad you enjoyed it. I appreciate it was awesome. I love. I hate to say it. But i love wrongly accused. Dogs are really do. It's me off so fucking much. I get so mad at like those fucking stuffed-shirt da's that are like. I don't care what the evidence is convicted. You know and it's like fuck you. I hate the as now. do you remember. Remember the innocent man. Well yeah so the. We'll see enough that the what just happened. Last week was the in the state of oklahoma. The they're potentially going to let people out of jail because a lot of crimes happened on native land and so the glendower who was convicted of killing debbie. Carter might get out of jail based on that whereas tommy ward who we all that. He's still in jail after thirty six years. And i'm very convinced even. Yeah i mean that comes across. That's that's the kind of stuff is kafka nightmares stuff that just kills me. Like wrongly convicted. I i i can't think of worse i like. There's innocent people in jail serving decades long terms and here. I'm free and i should have been in jail a long time ago. You know it's not. It's not fair. But i know the innocent man's great doc series that it's really well made and it just pisses me off when i watch stuff like that. I get so mad in small towns like ada the prosecutors and the police were under enormous pressure to solve to sensational murders. Debbie carter and denise hair way people started calling him about ron williamson and dennis fritz. The town was in disbelief. And then two years later denise hair way disappear. The police charge. Tommy ward and find tommy out in every case wants to confession. Tapes played these people. Will you say how are you looking to level up your audio quality yet. He is the world's number one premium usb mike producing clear broadcast quality sound for podcasting youtube productions game streaming video conferencing and music yetis proprietary capsule technology has multiple pickup patterns. That offer incredible recording flexibility. Most single microphones can offer and it plugs. Right into your computer. No other equipment required visit bloomberg dot com and click. Get started to see which. Mike is right for you and use coupon code blue pod for ten percent off one product. That's blue mike dot com coupon code blue pod for ten percent off so randomly. I decided to watch this on new year's eve. This is like how i decided to bring in two thousand twenty one read about. Let me watch about this alien. Ufo cult so it's been a couple of months since been out. How have you felt about the response. And what kind of like feedback had begun about the series. So it's been really good so far. I think people are seeing it as a a. They're catching what we're putting down about. A cautionary tale of what. It's like to surrender your power to A group or to a set of leaders. And i think it's been pretty good. Thought experiment for people examining other religions and their own religious beliefs. In how that fits into their own lives. So it's it's been cool. I mean Seeing responsible mine people definitely as shannon said drawn a lot of parallels to Trump and to cunanan and that is kept the conversation going especially in the events of january. Six it's It's becoming a topic that's like ever present in people's mind and they want to understand how people could believe those things and then they're watching this show in saying like. Oh i kind of get it. They're they're connecting with people who feeling lost or in some way don't feel like they're connected with society until they resonate with this fringe groups message. There's not one one backlit interview from the guy off a newscast. The guy who's like the republican party's the call on the knows very. Yeah also last minute. Addition great shannon have you have you been feeling the response. It's been great. And i think what i love about it in particular is that a non documentary audience has been watching it. It's sort of pop culture. A a lotta people remember it a lot. It's a sort of and that's been interesting to see and listen to people respond to it. Who don't normally watch documentary or they're not using the language that we all use to talk about it. They're just like responding to the castration. Or the the needle drops and for me. That's been really rewarding to to just sort of able to hear how it's being received in the world. Yeah back in. This is something from twenty five years ago become. It's back in our geist sin so many. Yeah yeah yeah. Why did it hit so hard in ninety seven. What was it about this story. That it i just remember it was just everywhere was it but was it i mean. I think it freaked people out. I mean to to know that People thirty nine people killed themselves systematically shifts over three days is wild and and and so i think that made Theory is like it made people so uncomfortable. They immediately had to discard it. And the way to discard it is to make fun of it and and dismiss it and disarm it. In a way that was like digestible for society. In so the the third. It's the biggest mass suicide on. Us soil in history so it was just like it was it was a big event. You also have the advent of like twenty four hour news cycles for coming off the back of. Oj in ninety five is like waco. J. heaven's gate you know it's a thing that you can talk about in find pundits and find write articles on for three weeks and filled columns fill the time right. Yeah interesting. i guess there's footage which was kinda weird and creepy and eerie. You know i mean. I still remember them walking through with the camera and the purple shrouds and the nikes and the bunk beds and yeah to does credit he wanted to be infamous and he made sure that like there was video to go along and to carry their their legacy on in that way in like a very video centric culture. Yeah that's wow you did it. They didn't security man insecurity the root of ingenuity could be. It's led to a lot of horrible decisions history. A lot of affordable decisions have been launched on the battleship of insecurity about trump. Okay write that down folks. Yeah think that's a good t shirt just a battleship with insecurity. That's all i am. Climb aboard there's room for everybody. I think i don't know. Don't talk to me. Don't touch me. So gleason i also really enjoyed gleason. Let's talk about that for a hot sec. Sure yeah yeah. So how did that come about. I'm a big football fan Yeah i mean. I remember watching the game. Where gleason blocked the punt in a first game in the superdome after katrina And what was that two thousand in a six five or six. So i remember watching that live I also remember watching the game Several years later where he had just been announced he had a ls in. He led the chance to start the game. I watch that live in being like. Oh my god. It was so emotional I didn't even follow the team that much but to see the how the story came to me. There was a couple of producers looking. Who were friends of steve and michelle and they were looking for a director to come aboard because they had all this footage that they had accrued over the years and a lot of it was shot by steve himself for michelle or caretakers There's a couple kids tying david who like were sort of young filmmakers who became caretakers blended that role but they just had covered everything that was happening in that house for three and a half years and they had all this footage and it was very raw and emotional And you see like this change. I mean channel. I talked about all the time. Like what's our what's our thing that really going for is can you see somebody grow and learn and change on camera and arca transformation and this was that on steroids were. You're you're seeing a guy from peak football shape in become an invalid and not be able to move talk or walk and so Yeah i like saul some of this footage and went down there and talk to the family and Sort of one one the job to to be able to tell the story and Started filming a little bit ourselves. But also i think i they gave us like twelve hundred hours of footage And so then it was this big editorial task alike. Shannon myself My wife. Mary was a producer on it Seth gordon was as well emerged. Like how do we manage. All of this. Harry come up with a system. That's going to be able to not so we don't miss anything we get through it making like figure out an sculpt down and find the story and what was that system well a lot of it has to do with like editorial organization and being able to come up with a way to watch things and tag them and this is very inside baseball logistics. But no i love it though. I'd love to our audiences. Filmmakers yeah relate awesome. My buddy made a documentary. Shot about twelve hundred hours of like michigan's winning winningest high school football coach. But it so much footage. He got so overwhelmed he never made. The doctor. didn't know what to do with it. So this is actually kind of throwing it to him right now to have. That happens more than you think. Two people just to get overwhelmed and so I i basically have a set of ideas are like themes that i think that are interesting. And so you're you're going through in your logging content for what's actually happening on the screen but you're also logging it for like. Oh this could fit in that steam. And so you're you're cutting it into a theme sequence as you're watching it and what it allows is by the end you've watched it in. You've absorb it so many times. It's pretty laborious process that you have a pretty good sense of like what the best moments are but also the themes that have the most footage that are like the deepest you can explore and you can look in those teams sequences that let's say you. Have you know in our in our twelve hundred hours. Some steam sequences. Were just a couple of hours long. Like i think we we. We called it down to like fifty hours which was like our content and then from there we ruled put together like a two hour rough cut just based on like what's our favorite things from the fifty hours so it's it's like the stair step process But yeah i mean the backbone of the movie was fathers and sons and and so seeing all the footage through that perspective and then it really wasn't until we started editing editing together that we saw how important michelle was his wife and that like the back half of the movie sort of becomes michelle's movie That was that was discovered through editing interest. That's an interesting process. I would imagine a lot of. There's a lot of happy. Accidents get discovered through editing. Imagine where you're like that's gold you know because you can't see when you interview people you're not conscious of like this is are you. I guess i should ask you. Are you conscious of. This is a great moment. Are you just so in that. You don't think of those things. At the time. I try to be present as present as possible but yes sometimes you. You bookmark things like that's in the movie. That's a great soundbite I must have been tons on finders keepers. Oh we're just like oh my god. Yeah i mean just yeah. There's a book by this famous editor. Walter merch called in a blink of an eye which i give to almost every assistant editor that i work with and it it describes his system of how he organizes stuff and part of he what he bakes into his system is the fact that there are happy accidents. You can't have a system that so rigid that you can jump right to the word that you're looking for a right to the shot. You need a little bit of wiggle room so that you can be like. Oh i don't remember even that we have that and that's perfect as there's a pretty interesting i think it's in the new yorker article interview with adam curtis and he taught his system. I'm like firstly. i'm just one from six years of talking directors like it's kind of like a meta data librarian problem. Yes you're you're doing meta data for video and audio and then but then adam curtis does all this stuff and silk so impressionistic and just so like dream state. And just like these is a jumble of associations so it's really fascinating reading about his his the way he handles. The bbc archives has access to. He's just like. I know. I just i labeled it like red red feather or something like that popped into my grandfather. Donald secede with this thing like the communist bloodshed. You know we. I was just talking to somebody yesterday. Recommended that i start watching. I can't get you out of my head. Curtis new series of so. I started it last night of and oddly. Enough shannon i Recently both watched hearts and minds. Which is like in its own way of a pastiche of like just like things that fit on overall political statements that are like drawn just like the motions of these images back to back. Yeah yeah it's it's it's very much more like just like twenty century video art kind of vibe. Yeah yeah yeah. That's that's that's amazing. I th do you guys you guys stoke that. You're in documentary filmmaking. Win documentary films. Have had like a resurgence. I mean you guys happy about that. I hopped in right at the right time. Gleason was my first documentary sir. I feel lucky but so yes the answer is yes. Yeah what do you guys. What are you guys working on you. Tell us what's next. We have a couple of things really Gate though they both run production now we have a couple of things are working on some that. We can talk about somebody. Who can't there's a in of opioid crisis following some of these lawsuits against the big pharmaceutical manufacturers distributors. We've been following For four years now. So that's that's sort of our our next big one that we've been tracking very closely. But you know. I won't say i won't say too much there's There's lots out there about him. But then what else. What else we. We do have a netflix series. That hasn't been announced at all that we're working on so we can't talk too much about that but that's exciting. Yeah we'll come back on the show it'll be down the road a bit but will gladly come back for that. Can you tell us how many parts there are. We don't know this. Is that for a lupus on that for a loop like banner snatched like documentary like choose your own adventure documentary for. Let's love to love those well. That'd be awesome. I'd love to see doc about the dominion suing everybody because of the The voting booth or the machine thing. I think that'd be an interesting follow. Sydney powell right now could be my. Gosh she's in a pickle pickle to be in like oops. Nobody would honestly believe me what i was saying crazy. Come on come on. Well thank you for being on subject. This has been extraordinarily delightful. Hasn't made some my favorite docks so thanks so much for coming on our podcast talking about. Of course they have them. Yeah thanks absolutely yeah. Please come back when you and your knights net flicks nine series interview adventure podcasts. All right channon clay. Thank you so much. And best of luck in the future and we'll be watching your ducks all right. Thanks thanks guys. Thanks for listening. You can find out more about sub dock at stock podcasts. Dot com recapping reality since twenty fifteen. Our theme song was written by david. 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GUI Pre-Cap Week of 3-23-20

Geeks Under the Influence

05:46 min | 1 year ago

GUI Pre-Cap Week of 3-23-20

"Hello everyone and welcome it is the Gui pre amps. Recap things are going to have happened with a week of March. Twenty third twenty twenty before it happens. My name is Bruce Inlets. Gui Pick of the week on Thursday. The Broken Lizard guys are back on TRU TV with season. Two of Tacoma. Fd This show is funny Check it out. It's a decent show. I'M NOT GONNA lie to you. It's not perfect but it's really good for TV pages Usually I only mentioned shows that are premiering or having their finales I'm GONNA start including some other shows because I think we need a little something extra nowadays so for Monday Nat. Go has two episodes of COSMOS THAN. They're both new for Tuesday NBC. Has the finale of this is us and the Premiere of Council of DADS vice has the premiere of dark side of the ring Wednesday. Abc has finale of stump. Town and Travel Channel Has True Chair with Robert England. That's a premier for Tuesday. Abc has the finale of a million little things Fox has the finale of outmatched and deputy. Usa has the finale of the center and true TV. Has Like I said Tacoma FD for Friday. Scifi channel has a premier vagrant queen and BBC. America has a few good men always a good movie. Always Guten. Watch that movie Saturday fx has hidden figures which is an excellent movie. Ide- has fatal Florida and HBO has the Premiere of the kitchen four Sunday. Espn has wrestlemainia. Thirty two this was last year's Wrestlemainia and Nickelodeon has the spongebob. Musical live onstage. Aright FOR BOX office results. I'm not going to do any box office. Results into the quarantine is done. Most movie theaters closing know. Movies are coming out at all either. So there's no point in doing box office results. Some releases are going to go straight to video on demand. If I hear anything about those I will tell you for. Dvd's you have nineteen seventeen. The Grudge and the song of names for online services net flicks. You Have Thomson Gura Ball Hog Creek camp a disability revolution the occupant ozark season three and uncorked for prime. You have making the cut season one for video games. You have half life Alex which is for the PC. A legend of heroes trials of cold steel three for pc bleeding edge wishes for the xbox one and the p. c. one piece pirate warriors four which. Ps Four xbox wants which and the BBC and saints row four re-elected wishes for the switch for Gui News We don't know when the next episode can be coming out soon because we're still dealing with technical issues of WHO's GonNa be able to record what when We're hoping to get new episodes out to you other than just this show Soon soon as we can figure this out for one more thing slash films as reported that actress. Rosario Dawson has been tasked in season. Two of the men delorean which I o nine heard from a source as well it's been confirmed The story continues to say that Dawson is going to be playing ASAKA TANU on Disney plus series which subsequently confirmed by multiple outlets rumors had been percolating for awhile at Dawson is going to be playing piano for a few weeks. But a finely they've kind of confirmed it This would be the first time so catan appears in a live action film. Now if you don't know who this character is a start. She started off in the clone wars as Anikin Sky Walkers Apprentice And then she became very popular and has been growing up through the series. She's also been in star wars rebels as well. A soak is introduction to the world would blow the Mand Lorraine Wide Open. She's a character familiar with the force. Who knows all the big famous characters in the universe such? Is Iota Show? She would know the importance of baby. Iota beyond what the characters of the man of Lorraine already know. Except for maybe month Gideon but who knows That would add a whole huge layer of mystery and mythology to the show Something Executive Producer. `Death Yori. Who Co created Tanno would enjoy and yet ten os portrayal into live action. Feels like it's a big moment. Especially being played by a wonderful actress But inserting her to a show where she's not going to be. The main character feels a little bit like a disservice This could be setting up. Though she owned gets her own spinoff which would be absolutely amazing. I have spoken all right. This has been the Gui pre-cap follow along with all the fun times at Gui podcast. Dot Com if you want to contact US emails. Geeks under the influence edgy. Mail DOT COM. Call US eight. Oh four five zero. Five forty four eighty four. That's eight four five zero five four. Gui My name. Is Bruce. And of course all of these things happen in the future be nice to each other. Gui PODCAST DOT COM.

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Episode 139 Galaxy of Terror

The Moratorium

1:28:54 hr | 8 months ago

Episode 139 Galaxy of Terror

"Hey phil free. It's tim from the moratorium. Just here to remind you that if you enjoy what you hear please like shirin subscribe then rinse and repeat where just a couple of small town nerds trying to make sweet geek love to your ear holes and we can use your support. Check out our website for movie reviews links to social media merch movies and more you can find us at the moratorium dot com now. That's out of the way on with the shenanigans. It's kind of like alien. With a dash of event horizon one heaping helping a giant horny maggot. Stir in the roger corman special sauce. And you've got one messed up movie. Jason and i dive into cult cormon classic galaxy of terror. This exhausting glue p space. Oddity is nothing. If not totally freaking nuts we would also like to give a shout out to our new head of music titanium pinos for our new opening riff on with the show Now are wow all had to say is just fucking. Wow i watched most of this year and I guess it has been a little longer than i thought because i browse were raised at a couple of different parts of the. That doesn't happen interesting. That a lot of things raise my eyebrows not many anymore. Well i hate way We are coming fresh off of You know halloween still still trapped in horror movie. What would we watch last week. We watch weight watch man. We came off of the horror. The mega monster movie. Marathon mania idol. I can't put in a of alliteration and then we had cool it'll interview with tony messy elo right when a thank him again for being on the program would be really cool to see what What pans out from him as well because he's got a lot going on this week we watched a really horrid rifai alien rebel that pretty succinctly covers it. Although i guess it doesn't really i think on the on the face of it. Yes it seems to be a alien rip off but the story is a little more complicated out. The story is way more complicated. I mean really if you think about it. Galaxy of terror is the catalyst for so many other great as being done. Are you saying catalyst. Because held james cameron get his start. Basically yes so. I watched a little There's a youtube video out there. That has a nice little breakdown of this movie and a lot of back behind the scenes footage. Shit is really pretty cool. I think it was good bad films. It really went into james cameron and what he did in in this film and how he just kinda he kind of came in and took over and took over the special effects and took over the camera. And who did if i forget. Who did direct this directed by. Bruce d clark as b d clark. He has done very little yeah. He wrote and directed naked. Angels man of course which which was a biker film yeah corman produced biker film. I'd hate to say that this is the sleaziest movie that we've done but seems like it's the sleaziest movie that we've ever done everything. I got a real weird. You gotta weird sleaze vibe out of it. Yeah dr. Everything's covered in k y. There's a guy named the allman king la- tim been. He plays a well. I guess we'll get into anyway. Names is all well. Well you know. He went on to do like red shoe. Diaries his name was on a hun- shit. Yeah and i looked at him. And i thought he looked like Somebody off of a deep space nine. I had to pull it up and show my wife. And she's like no no. It's not the same guy mike l. if you remove is knows it looks just. Yeah prosthetic on his face. He kind of reminds me of his a four. Any marjo gordon kind of a little bit. What he looks like his picture on. Imdb is frightening. But yeah it's like. He's been hanging out with gary busey for a few days before they snap this pick yes they just like stopped huffing butane. And he's like. I've got to get to. This can't stay in the trash bin. All day dusted himself often. History was made thanks for accommodating and Appreciate your mr beauty. Yeah he needs to go see a doctor because he has always got a light as sweat you know. I think he's got a fever. It's called dia rhesus of. Oh is that what it is. What is what does that when just kind of like our slightly greased up all the time i have that. Should i be worried in parts of some some. There are certain parts of me. That are very diuretic ferretti. Yeah some more than others will give you a list of from from dryest to wettest herald. Write it down real quick. While we're doing. I can do two things. Here's a bar chart enough of that on the podcast as you know. Welcome to the moratorium. I'm your host again tim. Kornmann sound like a cartoon with me as always as me jason walker. Jason will sound like a cartoon donkey. Well can thanks for being a part of the show welcome. Let's let's see how long it takes her people. Turn that off and you being the first my own little editing and just at that right up right well. We watched galaxy of terror formerly known as planet of the hell was. It's been called a couple of different things. I thought they said it was also called mutant at now. Well it may be. It was but That's also movie with wings hauser and his huge face Running time for this movie was eighty one minutes production company new world pictures under roger. Cormon yay budget for this film ran. One point eight million dollars. Which i think is probably bumped up a little bit for i think they said that you know once cameron got in and started taking charge that Cormon kind of release some more funds. Yeah but that it says here this off of wikipedia that The box office results pulled in about four million dollars. Also it made money it made. Money will say out quest. Yeah that was another tidal. Yes there was another one that was like planet of ghosts or i. I don't remember what it was but it had another original title but they did not settle on galaxy of terror. I guess until the last minute. I think quest was actually the name of the ship. And that's what i what i read. Yeah galaxy of terror is a pretty good pretty good name and this box is like very favorite but what part of this and the box art was in the none of it. If you're wondering there's none none of those creatures that's too bad because that pterodactyl looking thing as a human skull going after the scantily dressed buxom blonde. What's that in the background with a fork tongue. And i think that's just a guy's friend that got the pterodactyl edward mac there. That's what he looks like without that. Big rubbery face on so from talking about it last week and Let's just Fix any kind of errors that yes. Edward albert is in this film and he is the son of eddie albert from greenacres fame yet. San is the spawn of from eddie albert and mexican actress dancer. Margot who is shunted and not know who that is. The she doesn't have a fruit bowl on her head. She note that would be carmen. Well i mean she could have one two. Oh yeah we'll nobody's saying that the you know carmen. Rain is the only one that can produce but what she does it. Then it's like can stole your thunder. There is just eat those bananas last week. He said There's an edward albert charlotte eddie. Albert's son or anything and then we stopped researching it all and turns out. Yes it is at albertson exactly so that mystery is sought. We know we know you guys were you know on the edge of your seat so many email saying you guys have no clue fucking clue guy. Of course those were all from my wife. Hey guys if you're on the edge of your seat back a little bit. There's no reason to be right up on the lip of the chair. Our galaxy of terror stars eddie albert edward albert. I'm just gonna keep calling eddie. He prefers that you calling edward which he has a does he not have this a fake moustache that israel as she's known now it kinda comes and goes he. Sometimes he doesn't have one and has one in the same movie. I think they need a continuity person. Say hey you had the french ticker on the last thing erin moran at which both edward albert and erin moran. They both died in their fifties. And the meantime ray walston is a hundred and three. His passed away hasn't he. Oh yeah he died in two thousand one man. He was really slumming it in this on i thought for sure that he was going to be an android. It should have that actually would have worked out pretty good. I mean it in like cameron movies. His his character for sure would've been the android. Probably write the names and this movies they suck. They all sound like foreign cars. Yes so ray. Walston plays core But they call him cook at no point during the film. Do i see him cooking anything. I saw him serve. Edward albert like a cup of coffee so it might be a job title rather than bright zalman king plays babylon robert england. Plays ranger yeah that come on guys. I said hey. Big plays q. Q. hod vary you close to the character in moby. Dick you know sure. And he is kind of that character in this movie. The whale the Name quick. I think he's. He's just a big silence guy and galaxy of terror I read on the trivia. Up that when sid haig when he got onto the set he went to roger cormon and ask to change his character to quote unquote. A near mute was happening. It means he has one line in the freaking field near. I'm sorry near mute. So not me i guess. He didn't like his dialogue and felt that he could do this character. Better by not speaking. Maybe that one line that he says is very I think it must be like his back story that he i. I don't know if that was written or he came up with it But he says something about crystals doesn't he like i live and die by the crystal crystals like crystal gayle crystal meth crystal bernard them from wings crystal light crystal light. Maybe maybe he and Fruity drinks maybe. He and Harry belafonte is daughter. sherry belafonte. Yes his name is harry in her. Name's cher okay. Let's just get it out of the way there is nudity in this and have only by. It's only by one actress. correct right. it's taffy o'connell. her name is taffy. I thought it was spelled. T. a. f. f. e. I thought it was tall. Fiji which is what they put in like score bars and stuff. Maybe it's an irish thing. Toffee o'connell atop the com- sailing leprechaun grace zabriskie is the reason we got ear. She plays captain tran tour. Yes she's the captain if she's a captain she's making the worst decisions. Yeah and putting everybody's life in danger within thirty seconds of the movie opening. Hey sometimes you know you gotta break a couple eggs. I may have mentioned before she is also in the private is yes which i didn't realize that was a cormon production and i guess the private is actually made a nice little bank. Yeah i think so. I think it was successful. I thought i read. It was like a made like nineteen million. Wow so and watch that again. We could have been watching it this week but now i chose galaxy of terror instead yet anyway to let our audience know you can watch forbidden world. You can my god wrong and did you can watch galaxy of terror. Forget it probably do that a lot because these movies were so much alike. Let's let's go ahead and call it. Okay we were talking about this earlier. Let's call it while we're here. Let's go ahead and you know next week. Sweep up all the other trash so next week. We're gonna do forbidden world the world now that i see so many similarities between this movie and alien and aliens now i wonder his forbidden world has also roger gorman. Correct yes correct. I remember liking for been world a lot more than a galaxy of terror. I mean yes. It does have more boobs. Yes it's needed. I think galaxy of terror is for sure a better movie than forbidden world. I see. I think you're thinking of forbidden world. A mutant is the. This view was the original title. Yeah but they redid forbidden world and nineteen ninety one really under the title of dead space. Oh okay well then all these like crappy eighties b. movies were like so influential for other bigger budget. Better movies that came along. I mean if you watch that little documentary or that youtube video. There's a lot of similarities between galaxy of terror in aliens. You know but of course there are. Cameron did both Worked on both of them. And that i mean even when they were breaking down actual scenes. Oh wow if. They took a lot from galaxy of terror. Forbidden world is a little little. Sleaze your i think there's just nudity Front it's got fox harrison. It which is always good vow. Forbidden world actually. The tagline is part alien. Part human all nightmare. That's pretty good What's the tagline for this movie Your countdown to hell is about to begin. Wow so saying that. A lot of movies Borrowed from this movie. It's got a real event horizon vibe zuid way which is and even that tagline is basically the story for horizon they they basically hell on a spaceship horror in space is always stakes are so much higher and there is so little to set this movie up but it kind of feels like the same type of situation. That was an alien is that maybe they received a distress signal. Yeah and they were sent to on a rescue mission. They looked like they were already on the ship and right and then just decided okay. Let's go it. I think it would have been easier if they would've been in the space to begin with and just traveling around and just kind of like alien. Maybe they wanted to break it up and show that this is what it's like to take off from earth. I don't know maybe or maybe they didn't have enough money to build another set to show you all of that stuff so let our audience know you can watch this on youtube with It's a as spanish subtitles. It plays just fine. But i also just found it on daily motion. Oh okay it looks like a better copies on daily motion. Yeah you still don't have closed captioning on it but right you can watch it. You can buy it on prime for two ninety nine or you can rent in efforts ninety nine In reading some of this on the galaxy of terror. I don't think there's a whole lot of extras on that. It is the it said that the there was an x rated version of this film Which i guess would be the rape sequence that we will certainly get into. I don't think so. And i'll tell you why i watched a little documentary about this and also watched that youtube video that i think you watched and they said that the x rating was because of Audio audio effects or something. Which i don't know if it was just like Know like belushi alien noise. Which i mean that can be you know that is gross. There's a scene later that maybe the sound effects might have pushed it over the edge maybe galaxy of terror on daily motion. i think the The transfers so much better looks way better. There's a third version on youtube that you can watch that. Is somebody took their Look like they're iphone and pointed at their tv and recorded the entire thing for you so you choose which frigging transfer. You actually want to watch. The there's beginning of. The movie has just to kind of incoherent scenes. Slap together yes. I didn't know what was going on. From the beginning there. Just running around Frigging crapped out ship. Yes and the very beginning the guy Also called him an astronaut astronauts in this movie. No there's a crew member that wouldn't tell only put on a helmet or something right. Yeah you don't become an astronaut until you put that a fishbowl thing but the guy at the beginning is running around with like a looks like a heat gun in. I'm sure it's like a futuristic gun. A you don't know why you don't see what he's running from but he closes a hatch. That is just in a james cameron movie. It would have been like you know. Look good and really well done but basically just looked like an old of cabinet door handle but he kinda slides that thing together and has a little welder and welds the door. Shut to keep out as i assume an alien. Is it a welder. Or did he just turn his phaser to well. Maybe because it does look. Yeah maybe it does kind of look like a blaster from and kinda glows red for a second. Yeah but just very reminiscent of how they seal off the doors in one of my favorite scenes from aliens at himself into what is kind of looks like the mortgage the spaceship or like the hammer drawer. Because it's just like a bunch of shit just around. Well he there's a quick shot of him looking over to a body this laying on a slab and right it. Half of its head is missing. You confederacy the brains exposed. Does the looks like a school. Like av room or something. No i'm confused already. My remember watching the right move. They i don't know me. I think you're right. I think it is the morgue. There's like a little seen whereas like a porthole in the side of the ship. And he sees freakin alien head. Which really kind of made me think of terror vision. Yeah what happens then. I have no no clue. He starts break dancing himself against the wall like marching by himself. Yeah and like strawberry. Jelly comes out of his mouth. So i don't know cut to old lady whose lips are being sucked into her head and a guy with a glowing red head. Yeah playing like a cocktail like a Miss pacman type cocktail game. We're already on our spaceship. And i don't know what that beginning scene was your big headed. friggin commander calls the whole crew together and within a few minutes of grace being on the screen. She's like a were launching. The bay doors start opening thirty seconds until launch. Damn people are just getting on the ship. Oh shit yeah. I mean we need to her. What did we have like. We light savings time or something but of course. Edward albert still has a chance to lay one on erin moran before he gets strapped into a seat. Can we just call her. Joni caller joni. that's fine. There's a weird scene where said. Hey and ray walston kind of do like a three stooges walk through the door at the same time and they stop and kind of look at each other one of them's carrying a board. He's like hey. What's that over there. Bunk smacked upside the and. I love this that Very very young. Robert england running around the ship like a maniac. I guess what that little video is saying. That robert englund wanted to be in roger. Corman ville i mean. He just ate it up. He is like one of the things in this movie. That i'm like kinda genuinely happy. When he saw a ray walston. I just saw what you're talking about an i mean sit. Hey is like two feet taller than him easy. He's like got his chest up and out and his like as nearly the best he's ever looked at any. Yeah you're right. You're right somehow. He looks younger in this than other things where he was much older alma. God the big girl using herself as a seat belt just trying to get to. She just wraps her arms and legs around him to hold. Freddy krueger in the chair wouldn't work. I don't think. I don't know how space travel works. Also the look on his face is like he's the one at. It's all very confusing. He looks he looks like he's orgasm ing while they're flying away. Yeah they take off from earth. Yeah within a few minutes of the opening credits. And they're in space and there's maybe two minutes while they're floating around in space as she decides that she turns it into a hyper jump to get closer to their destinations. She's reckless very reckless old. When they were taking off they were showing little shots from around the ship and like canisters of stuff. Were like falling. Oh ruin the this. There's a real has been secured. I feel like morale is low on the ship. Already because of grace and her weird is when she decided to go into hyper drive. There's only a fifteen second countdown. Did sheet up. The she announced that. Hey we're getting ready to arbitrary numbers that she's just choosing out of thin air right launch and twenty three seconds range. Can i just call her. Sarah palmer furtherest Makes it easier for me. Mrs palmer also then going through. Hyperspace vary second very trippy. after the hyper jump And gentlemen after nine minutes. Now you can take your mushrooms not before this soul right. Bow bow panel. Now now ray walston looks like. He's been in the mushrooms a little bit just the fact that he doesn't do any basically has no facial expressions in this movie dad. That's why i thought he was an android who's the first Android in alien. Gosh i can't think of his name. British actor yeah. He's dead now he's bilbo. Yeah bilbo. what's his name. Yeah i'll forget it. But anyway i mean all they did to make him android os just having spilt milk all over. The place couldn't have done that for a way. So we're out of hyperspace. We see our destination planet in home as his name. Sorry you thank you ian home. Are they too close to the planet's atmosphere and they start getting sucked in. I don't know man because they everybody relaxes for just a moment. And what happens out another emergency. They're being sucked in. She gives up very quickly. Mrs palmer gives up very quickly. She's like oh. Well i guess we're dead. I can't break this pool. Do they not have to do like a psychiatric evaluation of these people. I mean she's obviously has some problems. There is one line from one of the other crew members that says something about her last mission or a mission that she's notoriously known for that. She came back by herself with the ship. Okay all of the crew members. Were bob blocks. That seems a little. That seems a little fishy you know. I guess that's how she became captain of this bucket of bolts all of the restraints and are not restraints but all the seat belts are literally seatbelts from like a plymouth valiant or something in that little video it did say that the uniforms that they're wearing yep were leftovers from battle star galactica. I noticed that. I mean i don't think they even did much to dress them up slap a couple patches on them on my god zalman king says son of a cyborg as a curse in this and it makes me want to break my monitor chic. She gave up yeah. She just knew they were going to crash. Land we're going to all die. Yeah and then realizes will. Maybe i can skip us to a landings like well. Maybe i can. I don't know let me let me. Just click a couple of these buttons and we show the other crew members faces as as they're preparing for. This ray walston still russian is dead like he is like he is trying as hard as he can not to let a golf ball fall out of his ass or something they land and grace zabriskie skips away. She's like everything's going. According to plan this is a surprisingly big cast. Yeah there's a lot of people to have stuff happens in and i couldn't necessarily keep up with. Who was who are what their job was was aware in. The i mean joanie is is she just declare buoyant stylist. Thinks she's just there to up their there and make out with edward albert. I guess like that'd be funny if there kissing and then pull away. And she's wearing the mustache to all to that. It's a road mustang. Battled classic. I wanna talk about their pax. Those who kind of cool. They're kinda cool. They also look like they went to a scrap yard. And just got a like reverse lights or something those from buick for sure. You definitely buick headlight. Everytime zalm in king comes by. He's just got one like blinking on like lift the turn signal on hanging a guys in that little short video. I think they'd said that most of the set design was Trash yeah they said. They went dumpster diving to like. You know to kinda decorate the walls make it look a little more textured walls out of painted. Mcdonald's takeout boxes james cameron at his finest. He was responsible for The reason why they went over budget yeah for sure but arguably made it a better movie. I like it that sid haig has that a see-through boomerang thing yes those are the crystals Oh those are his crystal knives. Yes they're like throwing stars. Oh my god it doesn't set it up at all. Yeah but i love this. They they get onto the wreckage of the ship. That i guess They got the signal from. It's so unclear. What's going on. The they're just showing up and checking things out also. It doesn't help that. This ship looks exactly like the ship. All the boys are same. They just kind of got some like electrical conduit and just dangled it from the ceiling of the wrecked showed. I totally love this. That one of the bodies the crew members kind of falls down like your normal horror yawovi you know dangling by the fee there should have been a cat and sid haig throws his crystal star into immediately. Yeah just thank. Check for paul sore Nounce just set him on fire. They destroy all the bodies that they find. Yeah they're like basically covering up whatever they're destroying every bit of evidence which is why they're on the ship is is this a rescue mission or is it a government cover as it training like a video game for them. I mean granted if you would have set up that maybe there was a parasite that these Bodies had to be killed with flame had to be disposed of but they waste no time in doing this to everybody. They see a dead body. They're shooting it. Destroying it and disintegrating eddie. Albert looks like he lights off about ten sparklers in another dead bodies head. Yeah and they're like yeah. That one's done. At least but sid haig is is holding these crystal stars. They're plastic stars. They are kind of look. Like what's under the like glass part of the turntable in your microwave. A little bit kind of they go right but sharp. it shows a little I don't know if that's claymation her. I don't know what kind of special effects that was. But you see a little out definitely stop motion. I saw again definitely this horley. Done harry harry. Housing would be weeping at this point. Oh yes moving at four frames per se yes herky-jerky i thought again and it looks kinda cool now. Kind of looks like a salamander. So the premise. That was explained. Is that these crew members on this ship or on this planet there being stalked by their biggest fears. Yeah so but we've we've not set up any of their fears beforehand. What are you afraid. We're just seeing these things attack them right. I mean unless everybody's fear is that they're going to get eaten by alien and they're the as for character development Not a lot now. Nobody knows what their motivation is. Except for grace zabriskie. Only one that has created a actors You know i- backstory for herself and apparently it's that she's really bad at her job boots on how she just keeps on getting promoted until she has. She's got one more rank to go right as captain. She needs to be a commander at once. That alien kills that other old guy than she's right. Maybe that's her plan is like you know instead of like sleeping with her you know. It is She'll just go on these dangerous missions and if she can survive them then she gets a promotion. There you go actually. It's pretty smart actually enjoying this movie a lot more than i. It's more fun listening and watching it with you than it is just by by yourself. It's pretty rugged it's pretty right all right. Let's get on with the movie because this guy okay. There is one like kind of like a red jumpsuit. Guy that you know is going to die. I oh you mean the one. That was vomited twice already. Like is is Clam chowder the only thing that they're serving aspects. He is sloshing with it. Is he being chased by the giant cockroach looking thing. Yes i think yes question mark and they kinda left him behind on the wreckage and like come on and he's still just bumbling right the first one to die from this thing basic five think so is he caused is he jack blessing. 'cause i all the other people i've looked at in except for him. His i am. Dvd like a profile shot is him just his ass as he is trying to negotiate all this crap that they put in one of the corridors in this movie he could have picked a better when that even him bar finger would have been better than i can look like. He's in the trash compactor. Open star wars right yet but his death is kind of fun. He's got old tentacles wrap around his midsection as cold and one hand that kinda grabs the top of his head. Yeah i was just waiting for him to rip some of the flesh bag s you'll his head completely off too expensive to show here. That's still pretty good death. I see now like were so unsure of what anybody does on that. Freddie krueger is just poking around on the dead guy's face is he. A dog is big boob lady. A doctor 'cause she's poking around to everybody else we destroyed. But i guess now there was a little seen when sid haig comes back to meet the rest of the crew before they leave jack blessing behind. He's got a big burlap sack. And i suppose that's what the body was in the. He had just thrown over his shoulder. That is that the body of jack blessing aka 'cause or is that one of the dead people from the the from the ship that had to be from the ship okay. I'm glad we figured that. Okay burlap sack with a guy in his face has gone by do kind of like they kind of zoom in on the face yes. They're watching through closed captioning television and they just zoom in a little bit and We'll yeah because because I can only say freddy kruger Lost my mind. I guess you have robert england england. They ask him something he kind of flips around like. I don't know what you think. Faceoff being kind of pissed off about it. it has like a pair of stats and he was just like poking the thing base. Okay so we saw that scene and then they just walked outside. I really like that Big pyramid that that shot from behind that like reveals that big pyramid as very cool looking. They made it look pretty big. And i saw a picture of james cameron i guess. Working on the the effects to create that pyramid rut looked pretty cool. Yep and making it all look very. Hr giger s. You know it's just a big painting. They don't set this pyramid thing up at all right. Who or what is it. Have no idea what's happening in the movie. And i've got the subtitles on well and the spanish ones. I got so confused. I have the remastered version of this movie. It looks pretty damn good. Yeah but it has subtitles in terms. Count skimming earns a while because there. There is one line in this that i thought tried to explain it calling a child's game. Okay that this and that kind of a made me think of that beginning. Seen when they were playing miss pacman right the glowing red headed guy that they were playing a game but they said this was a kids game so i i really needed a find out more about this. Wow i'm i'm here to tell you you probably will not figure it out. No i think we're putting more thought into than they did so but they start scaling this pyramid. Yeah and are aged commander. Yeah climbing up and he decides to go ahead of everybody. The camera stays on taffy. And i think this is pretty hilarious. I know he climbs up further and it's just focused on her. Yes as the commander goes forward up up this and then just immediately slides back down. Yeah tumbles his way past titles said we. Yeah let's either the cameraman's like all right. I focus on this old man's ass or these giant boobs not much of a choice. I guess they put in her contract that yes she was supposed to be nude right and i'll save it to the scene but i've got some trivia to to read off to you about the maggot rate about the maggot rape. Did you want me to say maggot rape. I if you're wondering if there's the movie they're definitely raping a girl in this. Yes and you can check that off your bingo card. yes. I love roger cormon. I've i absolutely love him as a man as a producer as you know but this period of time. They're showing him in that documentary. He looks like i mean it's the seventies there. I even roger. Cormon has a little mustache. You know but like a kind of thin one and it looks like if gilligan was on like a fbi watchlist shopping. I is a very creepy and then when you throw in the maggot right. So there's no real setup for this. But i guess while they're climbing up they're not even at the top of the pyramid that there's a hole in which the captain asides that he's going to rappel down i would say it's the butthole of the say i think it is also there. I don't remember if they they probably gave like an extremely cheesy like year that this happens like the year three thousand or something. They're using repelling gear. I just regular repelling stuff. Oh yeah from. Like well the seventies i guess didn't try to dress it up at all. Nope storyline says when a spaceship ramos crash lands on a planet more gan. 'thus the planet master of zor sees send the space craft quest to rescue them but it crash lands belan leads them away. compromising himself It doesn't make any sense. His rival cab rin size sensitive a luma medic de mia martial-arts q. Hod okay so. He's a martial arts fighter. Did you ever get that new heated. Throw a punch once. If he had been the cook i would've been yes. He's the cook. He looks like the cook and jittery rookie. 'cause that's the only accurate description in the entire thing. I know exactly which character they're talking about. Finding only a brutally murdered bodies aboard the ramos quest personnel says personal says question personnel start getting brutally slaughtered one by one themselves with their ships still damaged. The team investigates and nearby lifeless alien pyramid not realizing it's using their own personal fears to hunt them down and kill them so basically everyone in this movie is extremely dumb. Like just the dumbest person in the world high so back to Get your commander repelling down the butthole of the pyramid yup and those little tentacle arms real well no tentacle or just kind of jump out at him. He's quick to cut those tentacles off man. Yeah he's in. He was for anything yet. Finally he was but if these are his fears actually attacking him. Hey was ready to confront his own fear. I guess in like a mystical. I solved it. Let's get you're getting all native american with it. I don't think they really. I mean again. It's like the confronting their own fears. I mean one of my biggest fears would be being eaten by alien. And if that's the case then yes that that is playing with their fears of being eaten by alien. I think ray walston acting choice which is convenient because it's also his In real life choice is just be as drunk as possible. While mrs he has said like three words he looks depressed. Maybe he got his Script mixed up with a said. Hey hague's when movie. He was the same way it was like. Hey i'm the quiet. no. I don't wanna say i say less than you. So while everybody's out risking their lives so we got the captain and the cook. Just hanging out eating grace ab- risky looks like she's eating cat food. It's like fancy. Feast i think that maybe since What what is it battle of the battle. The knowledge stars battle beyond the stars battle the network stars something completely. Although i think a lot of these people were probably on it to battle star galactica. You know before this. I probably shares a lot of the same. I guess just once everybody was you know clued into the star wars universe and how it worked then all this other stuff should be like. Okay yeah i get it. You know but i don't get it. I will have to say the sets in this pretty cool are pretty freaking. Cool pretty elaborate. They're getting a little crappier when they get into the pyramid yeah. I don't know what part of the pyramid they're on but a door starts to open on the pyramid. The penthouse is okay when that happens but the doors start to open and sid haig throws his crystal ninja stars ninja stars to stop the door from opening right. That didn't make any sense to me. I'm like why. Why do you care if it's if you stop it there. The door is still open. You just you just wasted those things unless you can make more of those things. Now you're weaponless right and also shattered really very easily. He's about to cry. I think later Is is only line is when somebody gives him a gun and he doesn't wanna take it right. That's when he says. I live and die by the crystals. Yeah he's hunkered down and it looks like he's crying. They had the soles of his mother and father in. Oh is what did you not catch that okay. He looks insane in everything he does. Oh does very intense guy but his death is pretty cool. Can't wait till all the characters are dead. But no they're going down these this alien corridor and it just like you said it's pretty gig rish In has weird like light setup Yeah yeah they don't necessarily find anything together the that this whatever this is trying to separate them to kill them one by one right and later Here in just a bit. do they not go into a. It's like an alien glasshouse. You know as little glass mazes you go to the carnival that you can't you know you're like a room of mirrors. Yes a house of mirrors. But you know they always had bingo. Sprints face prints and right how often again yeah again. How did we survive our childhood. I don't know yet said hague's death scene his stars reform and attack him. Yes that i thought was awesome. I did too. He's he's basically just pouting and they just reform right has a problem with doors to that other door. He wasn't too cool with a tried to like. Get smushed in it. That little short of that blade going up his arm is it kind of made me kind of ten palm. Yeah that's that looks cool. It doesn't cool at for some reason when he was going through that door and the door was closing on him and he was trying to hold it open yet for a split second. He kind of looked like the rock a little bit. Yeah more gangly but still ninja stars. Reform he goes over to pick them up but somehow how does it get stuck in his arm. It just it kind of like throws itself adding and sticks in his arm. Just harris breaks off the point and it's supposed to look like traveling up his arm and it kind of looks like he helped push it into his arms. Yeah that's where there's a little bit of blood man. That's probably the most blood was seeing this film and chops off his own arm with the other stars or i didn't see a weapon in his hand. I didn't know what that was kind of look like he just karate chopped his own arm. Yeah if they really did it. His severed arm comes back to life and throws a star into his chest. Your ira evil. That is so in his fears dying by his own. Yeah i mean. I guess yeah i could see that is is ray walston. Now is he. Is he in a barber's chair. What is that. i don't know. I don't even consider him as in the movie now. It's like they walk past a room with him in it and he is just like smoking a cigarette and reading like a you know robert england came by and he sees him sitting down this chair and he's got kind of a little blanket around him ran his waist or something and he's reading the book and i think robert england comes in he's like is that the script is like what you read. It read literally never read it. Also this movie. The events in this movie kind of looked like a boon to robert england. He's just kind of bopping along like. Hey what's going on in the glad. I don't have to go to the death planet. Everybody else so. I dig this now. Taffy find sid haig dead. She sets him on fire. She sets his arm on fire. You see your face as she's lighten him up. It doesn't really show it. I think maybe i missed that via do you. Don't really know that guess. She has a fear bugs. Right like hawaii meal worms all of sudden because they're not maggots knows arms. Only been there for like you know. It's weird is like there's already a couple of things in here that i noticed from like prometheus movie that out just like a couple of years ago which is like those worms and there's another like very Kind of like this mega thing evolving and getting bigger and oh no the captain those little sucker tentacle faintness that were on him. That look like the things permit theus to kind of get inside that one guy suit and i think that's ballsy that like they were like you know let's steal this. This really good idea from this shitty movie that nobody's ever gonna see so this worm. Yeah just grows to enormous size. Yes and somehow sneaks up behind her. She's wandering around like cheese looking for stuff. She sees the slugged trail from this right yet is like glue pain. But she doesn't see it which is absolutely huge. Yeah it's a giant right. It looks like It's like the size of jupiter jumpers housing easy. It's huge it. Looks like when mothra is in her like a young people stage or whatever. Maxine pupil stage. I'm going to pause it right here. D- right in the middle of this alien worm rape to manchu awesome trivia. Okay good all right. this is straight off imdb trivia. This movie was originally rated x by the mpaa. The following cuts were made for an r rating. Scenes of a visceral action and protracted shot of a scalped corpse with part of its skull missing. Okay several frames from the infamous worm rape scene showing the giant worms thrusting movement and the victim's face and ecstasy and the climax of both of them sounds of bones breaking from a scene which another female character gets crushed by living wires. The original h x rated version of the film is confirmed to be lost or destroyed. I don't know if that's a good thing or a bad thing right Taffy was nearly crushed by a one ton. Giant wormed during the filming of the notorious rape scene. Yeah that was also in the The kind of making of yes. I will put a link to that of the website. Because i thought that was a really cool. I think everybody should watch that. Yeah she could have died. The the change to her being raped was a last minute. Decision by roger corman who had promised the investors that there would be a nude sex scene with her. Yeah at which Calling that a sex scene is then just shows you about the level of sleaziness that his investors and again at this time. Imagine roger cormon in tiny little white shorts right the are just barely covering his scrotum skippers hat and a tiny thin mustache. And he's telling them. I think the giant maggots should rate rafi. Though she didn't want to do it but later agreed after getting them to pay for more money yet. But when i was watching the scene because i mean it's when she gets stripped down in this thing is raping her she does start mony and two. Yeah she kind of gets into it. It's glue be slimy disgusting in more ways than just it's pretty disgusting and probably the reason why everybody wants to watch it. Yeah probably did. They say that six people had to control this thing because it was so big. I didn't say that but it is like it's huge huge. I'm surprised that james cameron that doesn't come up in a you know like interviews with him and stuff like hey So what about that maggot rape scene was that your idea. Yeah exactly like no. It's a corman movie. We know exactly this idea. Well so got her. The dead naked kyi covered body and zalman king is. He's the first one to light everything on fire. I don't know why that's his job. Specifically i guess he's got the flame thrower but but as soon as they see her body laying there they just assume she's dead. Nobody checks for a pulse. No nothing no. They just set her on fire. Yeah have you ever smelled kyi when it's on fire do but yeah like that's never like establish that you know in other movies that would be like she's contaminated now or something so. There's no way. I am disappointed that you didn't bring up What is this some kind of sexual lubricant. God the seventies were just so gross alejandro rey would have improved this cast. Tell for sure he would at least be wearing like a Like a hawaiian shirt or like a smoking jacket or something. So grace her thing is i guess. Reliving her past of when she lost her entire crew and so she's trying to kill something that's not there. I don't know it was confusing yet. Now she jobless at. Oh no wait a minute. They made her captain of a ship with with a bunch of people. Her death is so quick and it doesn't make any sense. I don't think i saw it on the first go through. Oh she just burst into flames burst into flames. I think i read somewhere that her scene was supposed to have a more elaborate death but because they spent all their money on You know worm raping the magritte ray. Walston does a karate chop to the back of freddy krueger's head. He does and god. Damnit now i can't think this day. He's just going to be friday now. Robert england robert england comes in and finds him in the control room. He's he was like. Uh somebody hit me. You know here. Somebody hit me. As i and ray walston like no i haven't said anything any any kind of a snickers them so i chopped him but again sets him up as like. How does he know how to do. Like a vulcan neck pinch thing or whatever he did and he could be the cook he could be the av guy he could be a stowaway on knows. My least favorite. Martian is hilarious. Do they show robert england's death because he's going through this ship the real ship not the wreckage and he finds her burnt body. Okay that's weird the only way you could tell it was her because it was her hair. They're all like kind of smiling. I you know. Like wow. I guess i made it out of the. Hey i guess we don't have to ration our food anymore yet. Who wants seconds. Yeah now they're all hanging out and they messed. It will be playing or something. Space pleased him space. And then that little guy just kinda fell off. Oh that was solomon. Can't i guess he got his guts ripped out and then he I throw him off the side of that thing. Do his guts being ripped out. That was pretty cool at the documentary. Things said that they just went to like a mexican am supermarket or something next door and got a bunch of pig guts because it's cheaper than making it. yeah and it looks cool. they go back into the pyramid. there is a gooney use waterslide. Seen you has got to have a slide so joni slide down this waterslide thing and she gets stuck in the middle man and she just sits there for a moment she kinda like you know sitting in a fetal position kind of holding her legs tour at and all i could think of this a waterside. Somebody is going to slam into you. Exactly shanley. I quit working. That's not how slide war you've you've got some effort to kind of kick your legs out or something to get going. I think robert england slides into her ed's and pushes her all the way down. Eight doesn't even say. I'm sorry or look out on anything it's just like. Oh hey we're down. All right yeah. That was fun which is in my way. come on. let's do it again. Yeah doing climb back up to the top slot. I think they're so far in the future. They don't know what slides are after that slide and they come out into the inner structure of this pyramid. That looks cool. Yeah that looks. It looks huge yet. Does i saw a part of that is like a matte painting that i think james cameron. I could be wrong. I think he made it. And it has like a depth to it and it makes it look huge. It's a great effect really. Is i like the shadow play. And they call this. The shadow demon. I thank the shadow demon. Is this where we actually get to see the alien face. Yes and it's kind of a triangle. Little weird looking looks very similar to I am like queen alien or something similar features which again this movie came out. I so i thought this pretty comical though when zalman king's walk and you could see the alien feet as it's underneath the bridge. Yeah that was weird stalking him. From underneath that was that was fun. It basically. it looks like it has eggs on those boots. That like girl those like before like moon boots or something. The alien has like human feet they talk about. The mission was ordered by the master. That was very unclear. Who the master is. I just assumed it was. Lv yeah the e- master. There's only one robert. England mentions the master to and i was like the by this time. It's like anyone care if there is a more coherent story or anything. Let's just and that's what i thought was like the video game aspect to this is because whoever makes it to the end or is the lone survivor becomes the master. Wait a minute wait a minute. Wait a minute okay. Now i'm thinking like the red faced guy in the old lady with no teeth explain Zach sonner whatever yes are. They like like chessboard. Style controlling the stuff know what that scene has to do with anything. That's what i was reaching for will. Then let's just agree that that is the story because it makes more sense and never talk about it again. Don't bring it up. no follow up on this. That's actually making getting through the last third of this movie pretty easy from. I finally feel like there's something to grab onto other than just just a few deaths. Zalman king's death is pretty cool. aaron moran joni gets trapped in the house of mirrors offer. Greatest nightmare was just chachi. He'd just appears from behind when they look at each other in this house of mirrors. You know when they're trapped beyond they're just basically making goofy faces at themselves. They don't even try to talk. I can only assume we can't hear each other right. It's basically like a quarter inch of plexiglass. You can probably hear them. Yeah he's giving her like you know. Hand gesture commands and she has no idea what he's saying to her because they were stepping through this little triangle lit door. Yes when each character steps into it kinda gets them separated into their own little nightmare right. Yeah i think that's correct. It quickly disappeared after a step through it. Yeah yup. I think you're right so it's a good movie. What's janis fear. Though her death has kind of cool and she's like really acting right now is she. I means more than she adds up to. This point you said erin moran died young yes yes. She died in her fifties. But when robert england starts getting attacked by robert england other robert england. Yeah his stunt double really doesn't look anything like him for. You are getting a preview of like the freddie face and stuff you know yeah. This is reminiscent of freddie as well because at some point during their fight. Freddie i mean robert robert englund against each other their echo eight quits believing that the other him could do harm to him. Yeah i think what he's thinking is like i if i make friends with him he could jerk what's happening. I don't know i might be editorializing or this other self just kind of disappears after he quits believing that he could hurt him. I had thought that was kind of a reminiscent of freddy krueger. Kinda yeah when nancy quits believing and freddie he right loses all this power. Yeah joni though being trapped in her own issue right she is just acting her ass off right here and it doesn't really shows like what she's being just like kind of wiggling wires but it's kind of like sawing her in half. Do it crushes her. It's hilarious. Oh yeah ooh her head fucker blows up. Yes i remember like the just explodes. That is very similar to that. Seen in bermuda. I hate referencing slightly better movies but same thing happens in this. I'm watching that scene right now. She's as she's being wrapped up. I know why this is her. Fear of i would be scared to say totally legitimate fear but kind of made me think of prison as well with her mouth and but yup that face explosion is. It is cool. It's like her heads made of like crispy like a you know like nutty buddy's you know they have that kind of like the wafers. Yeah well yeah like a way for movies kind of bottomed out. After she died after joan is gone because now eddie albert just he's a sad. They don't set her on fire immediately. Yeah the rules about setting. Things on. Fire are really. It's anybody's guess. And this is where it just kinda got confusing right. This is where it got confusing. What happened to robert england because he was going up the side of the pyramid. This is where like ray walston action hero comes in it. Looks like remo. Williams kinda got that action hero he does. That's yeah exactly as at the top of the pyramid saying. Come and get me right. This is what you've come here for. That means that mustache guy. His greatest fear is a ray walston fight song right. Sure he should be afraid of that. He's walking through with his gun like he would in like magnum pi. or like. i want. I do watch the scene again. It was. It was kind of strange. And i think i kinda fell asleep at this part. If you're going to fall asleep in this movie this is where it's going to happen better. We led to believe that ray walston the entire time has been this quote unquote master. This being. I'll know he was the cook that never cooked anything that never cooked anything but he wore an apron. Best should have been their first clue like he's got an apron on but he's he's continuing to cook nothing forest Brisky as just eating cat. Food fancy aren't even have a cat. The final showdown. With ray walston is at one ten read the closed captioning and see. If you can make sense they divulged. Do they just unload the plot right here. No i mean ray. Walston is again calling it a children's game yes and that the pyramid is a toy yes and his head starts glowing red just like the very beginning the other guy that we have no idea was so but they're saying that that eddie albert is the last surviving right. Yeah he says you won the game. What happened to robert england. He maybe he's just to squirrelly to win. These vary squirrelly he is just setting it up as a final boss battle in a video game which you know. This guy hasn't won anything. He is constantly just thrown around up right maggie Shows up to in the scene. That yeah so he shoots all the tentacles and then i think you have to shoot the head a couple of times roll. Shoot it again. Jump jump it's basically like metro metro-dade. That's what i've just say. Left right left right up down. Yeah hey yeah that's how you win. Now that's how you get not nine lives why. I guess that would let you win. Okay unless you're total. Loser does giant up in the air backflips and front flips. Which he's never done in the in the first hour and fifteen minutes of the movie we didn't know he was so acrobatic. No in fact those moves would have come in handy earlier. Oh yeah so. And he is boobs beating the shit out of this worm click. He's punching one of those things in front of a used car dealership now. It's getting really confusing or all. The all the dead people are showing backup. It does look like the end of event horizon a little bit. So would you say that. The that eddie albert is now at the end he is fighting all the creatures that were created by the other characters fears. Would i say that. Yes i i. I don't know i mean i now. I'm so confused because everybody that shows back up the rest of the crew is dead and mangold and just showing up to him and nightmarish vision. Yes very hellraiser. Very blue to go face fell about the entire screen. They say his name like a thousand times towards the end of this movie cavern. Which again sounds like a car. The new chevy cavern. His face does kind of have a cab forward design to. He's doing jim cada. Yeah again it would have been handy earlier if he had done any of that. It just shot erin moran. She turned into ray walston. It's completely off the rails at this point is just scenes of things. And ray walston is just spouting off some real cryptic bullshit. He says that your anger with me even know what that means but when joni starts choking him the look on her face out. She's terrified man. It's like she just came back from the the cote table. Scott ray liotta is not gonna sing that either. I was already singing it. I know you wanted to sing it. But i'm not going to. I'm not going to give in now. I'm totally confused. Every line of dialogue makes you question. The line of dialogue comes out of nowhere and goes nowhere. They they're not divulging any information nope it's cryptic Put some little bit of makeup on. Ray walston to signify that he's dying but he turned into electron- yeah of tron like so eddie albert. Just kind of. He shot something out of his chest around his groin area. Now if this was still the game from the beginning the old woman The old woman is eddie albert. I've solved it. We did it. We did it a all my god. This is big. We're going to have to go public with this. We know that you guys have been wonder all the papers. I'm going to have to write the public appearances Handle this. Maybe i should edit all that out. Take it all away. Probably be best if we just edited all that out. Keep it to ourselves. That was the dumbest ending for any movie. I think i've ever seen. Yeah but i mean. It gave james cameron a career. I guess we could be happy about that. Yeah although they're making like four more avatar movies. So i don't know maybe maybe if he had been allowed to fail i get it. It's avatar. it's like avatar. How is this like avatar. I don't know though he had nothing to back at us. Wanted one shoe read anything. A you know what we gotta do. We gotta read the novelization of find out. What at with the story actually was. What's the name of the book everything i wanted to know about galaxy of terror. I learned in elementary school. I was thinking that anal pyramids. That's the erotic fan fiction they wrote. Which i'm going to get on for dissident bigfoot. There i've got a lot of questions we've said i don't understand like three hundred times. No i mean both of us have. That's not a good sign. I think i need to watch over the top. Yeah decompress. i'll feel so much better all right. Well that was galaxy of terror. I mean it was terrible. The galaxy of terrible. I think the forbidden world might not be as man. I don't even want to say that. I wanna think that like the plot for forbidden world is way easier to understand. Well if it has a plot. I guess it would be easier on your standards but i mean this movie had a plot. I mean it had a pretty easy plot to follow until they started throwing in all the weird mystical shit. I felt like whoever wrote. This was like overheard his kid playing dungeons and dragons in the basement and was like i've got a project that has no ending. I think i'll just think i'll just use some of this. Crap is dumb. kids seem to like it. Well i would say we did it. I mean we did it. We've got the whole movie but through had so many questions. That are too dumb to answer. I think i need to start previewing these movies before i pick them Yeah that would help a lot. We were so close. I could've gone to the private. Is i would've been happy with that. Yeah it would have been torture for you. No no no. I i don knotts. Can i get an order of some of your garlic don knotts. I don't know about that at all. I love a good tim conway. Yeah and knowing that it's a corman movie. I would like to see that. I don't think. I knew that it was a corum film. Did not now. I mean there's probably a forty percent chance that any movie is good point. I feel wiped out. I feel like i need call my loved ones and then just go to sleep for a while but this was our first corman movie was. It wasn't maybe. I mean i'm sure we've had to trip over him. Yeah i think he is probably been involved in so yeah. I mean entertaining. You hesitated to say that you think you could use that word to describe entertain and my ted talk over the spill. I will try to squeeze the word entertaining into my speech yet but more than likely it'll just be out just saying k y jelly a lot. Well let's follow this up next week with our double feature of corman with. What are we watching again. Forbidden world forbidden world. They're very similar data low budget. I just remember thinking that there there is something about forbidden world. That's just a little bit little more of a spark in that one. I couldn't tell you if the plot is anymore. You know i. i can't promise you anything about it. i will say that. There are boobs boobs. There is a big slimy monster guy. Don't think maggot rape is there. One particular monster in this that stalking Yeah very similar to another alien movie. That i won't mention it's called alien but hey fox harris's in it down. I can't wait to see him in something. Well let's read it off in the distant future a federation marshall arise at a research lab on a remote planet. Let me start over or let me just quit quit power. We set it up somehow. Watch the movie guys. It's an hour and seventeen minutes long. It's a world it's forbidden. I'm pretty sure we can turn it into a three hour podcast. Oh for sure in the distant future a better asian martial arrives at a research lab on a remote planet where genetic experiment has gotten loose and begins feeding on the dwindling scientific group. That last sentence made it sound. Like don knotts is in this. I would love it of us in this. So like you said as fox harris whose michael bowen we've talked about michael bowen before he is Buck who likes to fuck from kill bill. That you are correct is also in a lot. He's a lot of quintin movies. He's he's in Jackie brown yeah. He's partners with Michael keaton can think of his last night and This also has jesse event. Who the hell is that. I have no idea. I don't know. I don't recognize a lot of people except for fox. Terrorists dawn dunlap. She's the air to that a tennis ball. Fortune that I don't know what's actually holding tennis. Ball june chadwick. She was in the she was in. This is spinal tap okay. maybe she was As janine pettibone so next week forbidden world for corman double feature. It's amazon prime. Yes it also might be on youtube. Well do you want to you. Want to add in our normal. Bs go right ahead to just follow us on social media and sure go to our bison t shirts you you can pick up our commemorative Mega movie mania monster movie. I think yard t shirt. I created it and i don't know what it says and i made it intentionally made it sound odd because we stumbled over so many times but now i can't even remember what it says. Yeah that's like that so it looks like you can watch forbidden world on to be okay like you said. It's on amazon prime. So you can definitely check it out you. There's a still of your girl and a nice little ninety looking at some slime filled table. That i can tell there's a foot i see a human foot and the rest of the table is just slimy and oregon's yeah well that's kind of i mean these movies. It's they're going to have slime. They're gonna have organs i This actually is a good score. Maybe it'll have a plot may find out next week tune in next week. 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62. A Nightmare on Elm Street: The Deaths and Life Events That Inspired the Wes Craven Classic

Reverie True Crime

13:00 min | 9 months ago

62. A Nightmare on Elm Street: The Deaths and Life Events That Inspired the Wes Craven Classic

"Super. Grandma craft beer and true crime podcast Mike I'm beck and I'm Nina. Hosts. We are true crime story with a craft beer that Nina will probably hate. Whatever you can find our show on all your favorite podcast APPS, and if you can't find it, contact us and we'll try and change that we could be found Abreu, Graham Dot com, or on all social media platforms at crime join us as we discussed the horrible crimes that surround us and try not to giggle. My name is page and you're listening to reverie true crime. Please stay tuned until the end for your patriotic shoutouts and to learn more about the Patriots on in today's episode I'll be comparing the movie a nightmare on Elm Street to the real events that inspired the maybe how much of it is based on reality? Can Nightmares be a cause of death. Let's get started. The first nightmare on ELM street film was released in Nineteen eighty-four and written and directed by Wes Craven. The movie is based around the fictional. A psycho named Fred Krueger. Robert England plays Kruger in these films and he's absolutely phenomenal. The character Fred was known to everyone as the spring would slasher. He killed a few kids wearing a glove that had razor blades for fingers. The judge actually let Fred go free and the parents of the children that he slaughtered burned him alive at his job in the boiler room. Years go by and the children of these parents that were still living, which includes a girl named Nancy start having these horrendous nightmares that involved a man with burns all over his face and the gloves with razor blades for fingers a striped red and green sweater and his filthy Brown Fidora his spirit tortures them in their dreams even murdering some of them. Nancy, who was the daughter of one of the cops who arrested Fred starts having violent nightmares and so to her friends. All of these terrifying reveries have one thing in common Freddy Krueger. One of Nancy's friends falls asleep has one of these violent nightmares and has killed by Freddy Kruger and the dream and dies in real life. The Group of friends finally get it. If they don their nightmares, they die in real life to Nancy decides that she will not go to sleep and instead try to figure out what's going on with these gruesome murderous nightmares and find a way to stop. Freddie. So how does it compare with the true story? What actually inspired this movie? Sourcing from groovy history, Dot com wicked horrid dot com and screen rant. Dot Com. There were a lot of La Times articles that West Craven was inspired by to make the movie. At the time and the nineteen eighties, the articles were diving into the very odd and mysterious sleep. Dad's which were occurring mostly Asian men all around the country they would die brutally as they were sleeping. Before some of the men passed away they said they would never go back to sleep. Some of them didn't realize anything was terribly wrong and would go to sleep and die. This really upset their families and it sparked a curiosity and West Craven to make this film. He found out that most of these men escaped the killing fields of Cambodia where the Cambodian Communist ruling party carried out the most terrifying anger test mass murders of the twentieth century. There's actually a lot of relevance that inspired West Craven. One being when he was little and he recalled an elderly man strolling down the path that was beside his window and he was staring at West and a creepy way. Young West hopped backwards to hide when he saw the old man look intently at him but he eventually slinked his way back to the window to Peop- outside. As he shifted his is down towards the ground. The old man was staring in the shadows seemingly trying to scare West's. This event whether the old man was pulling a prank or not haunted West Craven for years even when he was an adult. He wondered what in the world goes on in someone's mind that they would drop everything they're doing just to terrorize a child. That's where Freddie's character originated from. The name Fred Krueger also has a specific meaning behind it as that was the name of wes craven's bully as a child. West. Factored in the cognizance of stranger danger everyone was terrified that pedophile and sexual predators in general might be prowling around and what they thought were their save and shelter little neighborhoods. This awareness only really started to increase in the nineteen eighties. West Craven was also intrigued by the fact that people were brutally passing away while sleeping and nobody can really explain why. A lot of articles do talk about a medical condition that some of these men were said to have. But at the same time, it can't be proven that the medical condition is what caused the deaths. One of the families were said to have run away from Asia to America they got away from the awful cruelty and carnage, but their son was having ghastly nightmares where he was being pursued by something or someone. West Craven told Vulture magazine quote he told his parents. He was afraid that if he slept the thing chasing him would get him. So he tried to stay awake for days at a time when he finally fell asleep his parents sought the crisis was over then they heard screams in the middle of the night by the time they got to him he was dead he died in the middle of a nightmare in quote. They also found a coffee pot under this boy's bed. He would sneak pots of coffee and to his room chugging the caffeine also hiding his sleeping pills that his mother would give to him and he would do anything to keep himself awake. But it's nearly impossible to stay awake forever plus sleep deprivation causes your body to break down. You can get really high blood pressure have a heart attack heart failure or even a stroke. So this was a situation where he couldn't win either way and sleep snuck up on the child like a thief in the night. In Japan and the Philippines mostly younger completely healthy young adult males were passing away while they were sleeping. Usually, they would let out a scream or gasp before they died. The doctors had no clue as to why this was but it seemed to be a more regular occurrence in young men who came from Japan or the Philippines and doctors, and the US had no idea what was actually happening. The La Tom's wrote that the Japanese do call this event pack Yousry and that means piercing. So, what does this piercing main? Well, it essentially comes down to the death being a sudden snap or slicing feeling a possible deadly heart attack. A doctor of Tokyo Metropolitan Medical Examiner's office told the La Times quote. It's not a matter of the heart being good or bad. They seem to be dying of heart failure but we can only guess about the calls in quote. And nineteen eighty around eighty men died from this piercing just in Tokyo. Japan itself assessed that there were five hundred miles that died from this mysterious illness. It's believed almost one thousand men passed away from the piercing and a year but that's only a belief and there's no stats to really back that up. What we do know for certain is that back in the eighties, there wasn't a way to know the stress levels that these young men could have been dealing with but they figured it had to be something involving the heart as a reasonable explanation. One man who actually lived through the snap developed ventricular fibrillation. That's when the heart contracts and doesn't make normal beats. However, he did have surgery and the doctor's found absolutely nothing that indicated this man had a heart attack. There were no signs whatsoever. Allegedly the Filipino people said these deaths were Bangun Gut Syndrome. Which means Nightmare Syndrome one widow said that she wished they had never even came to America because she believed the culture shock was the reason her husband died during a nightmare. Now there's another theory. Some people tend to have the belief that their ancestors were killing them in their sleep as punishment because they so called abandoned their homeland for the United. States. The official name that was given to these events by medical authorities in America was Asian death. Syndrome. What horrifies people the most about the snap or piercing is that there's no rock solid proof to back it up. So if this is happening through nightmares, there's no way to even prove it. Now we have to ask ourselves is a nightmare on ELM street possibly more real than we ever really imagined. Is there something that could happen and our nightmares? That is so insidious so devilish -ly crafty that it could terrifies to the point of dying in our sleep or could it be that these men were dying from the stress of making it out of gas attacks by the North Vietnamese? Even though West Craven. Has since passed away he has definitely an icon of film and he has managed to scare us all shitless I say that's a job well done. Before I go I, want to say thank you to my patrons who at the time of this recording are denise Keira Lorraine Emily Trevor Madeline and Melissa. Thank you so much for supporting me and the PODCAST. If you'd like to join the Patriot on for three dollars a month I'd love to have you. That's at Patriot Fan dot com slash reverie true crime, and if you sign up before November or December I'm pausing payments for both of those months because every dollar counts during the holidays. 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Episode 139 Galaxy of Terror Director's Cut

The Moratorium

1:54:37 hr | 8 months ago

Episode 139 Galaxy of Terror Director's Cut

"Hey phil free. It's tim from the moratorium. Just here to remind you that if you enjoy what you hear please like shirin subscribe then rinse and repeat. We're just a couple of small town nerds trying to make sweet geek love to your ear holes and we can use your support. Check out our website for movie reviews links to social media merch movies and more you can find us at the moratorium dot com now. That's out of the way on with the shenanigans. It's kind of like alien with a dash of event horizon. One heaping helping a giant horny. Maggot stirring the roger. Corman special sauce. And you've got one messed up movie. Jason and i dive into cult cormon classic galaxy of terror. This exhausting glue p space. Oddity is nothing. If not totally freaking nuts we would also like to give a shout out to our new head of music titanium pinos for our new opening riff on with the show Now are wow all. Add to say is just fucking. Wow i watched most of this earlier and I guess it has been a little longer than i thought because i browse were raised at a couple of different parts of the. That doesn't happen. Interesting that a lot of things arrays my eyebrows. Not many anymore. Well i hate way We are coming fresh off of You know halloween still still trapped in horror movie. What would we watch last week. We watch weight. Watch an man. We came off of the horror. The mega monster movie. Marathon mania idol. I can't put in a lot of alliteration and then we had cool. It'll interview with tony. Messy elo right when a thank him again for being on the program would be really cool to see what what pans out from him as well. because he's got a lot going on this week we watched a really horrid rifai alien ripple that pretty succinctly covers it. Although i guess it doesn't really i think on the on the face of it. Yes it seems to be a alien rip off but the story is a little more complicated out. The story is way more complicated. I mean really if you think about a galaxy of terror is the catalyst for so many other great as being done. Are you saying catalyst because held james cameron get his start. Basically yes so. I watched a little There's a youtube video out there That has a nice little breakdown of this movie and a lot of back behind the scenes footage. Shit is really pretty cool. I think it was good bad films. It really went into james cameron and what he did in in this film and how he just kinda he kinda came in and took over and took over the special effects and took over the camera. And who did if i forget. Who did direct this directed by. Bruce d clark as be clark he has done very little yeah he wrote and directed naked angels man of course which which was a biker film yeah corman produced biker film. I'd hate to say that this is the sleaziest movie that we've done but seems like it's the sleaziest movie that we've ever done everything. I got a real weird. You gotta weird sleaze vibe out of it. Yeah dr. Everything's covered in k y. There's a guy named the allman king. La- tim up and he plays a well. I guess we'll get into anyway. It's names is all well. Well you know. He went on to do like red shoe. Diaries his name was on a hun- shit. Yeah and i looked at him. And i thought he looked like Somebody off of a deep space nine. I had to pull it up and show my wife. And she's like no no. It's not the same guy mike l. if you remove is knows it looks just. Yeah prosthetic on his face. He kind of reminds me of his a four. Any marjo gordon kind of a little bit because what. He looks like his picture on. Imdb is frightening but yeah it's like he's been hanging out with gary busey for a few days before they snap this pick. Yes they just like stopped huffing butane. And he's like. I've got to get to this. Can't stay in the trash bin. All day dusted himself often. History was made thanks for accommodating and Appreciate your mr beauty. yeah But he has been the producer on. Ask several kind of erotic moving. it'd wild orchid. I remember watching that back in the day. Yeah that was. Mickey rourke as well 'cause he was right off of like nine and a half weeks Eighty six and eighty nine. Yeah but i always got these kind of confused. Just because i i guess you know. They actually have the same covers. Yeah when was it. That mickey rourke became like a heart throb in when did he turn into whatever he is. Now yeah he was very handsome back in the day until he decided that like people weren't taking him seriously as an actor. They're just looking at him like a piece of meat so he just decided to get punched in his face for like a few years and just start boxing he was in fade to black. No way the one with the guy from my breaking away yet dennis. christopher. Tim thomason yeah. I did not know that that might be actually one will hit. You do transfers one of these days. I remember liking that which one The first one all of them Mickey rourke was also in body with the william hurt. He needs to go see a doctor because he's always got a light as you know i think he's got a fever. It's called dia freezes Was that what it is. What is what does that when you just kind of like our slightly greased up all the time i have that. Should i be worried and parts. some some. there are certain parts of me. That are very diuretic. Yeah some more than others. Give you a list of from from driest to wettest hair. I'll write it down real quick while we're doing i can do two things. Here's a bar chart enough of them on. The podcast is no welcome to the moratorium. I'm your host again tim. Kornmann sound like a cartoon with me as always has me jason walker. Jason will sound like a cartoon donkey. No well that's thanks for being a part of the show not welcome. Let's let's see how long it takes her people. Turn that off in you being the i do my own little editing and just at that right up right well. We watched a galaxy of terror. Yeah formerly known as planet of the hell was. It's been called a couple of different things. I thought they said it was also called mutant weight. Well it may be. It was but That's also movie with wings hauser and his huge face Running time for this movie was eighty one minutes production company new world pictures under roger. Cormon yay budget for this film ran. One point eight million dollars. Which i think is probably bumped up a little bit for you. Know once cameron got in and started taking charge that Kind of release some more funds. Yeah but that it says here this off of wikipedia that The box office results pulled in about four million dollars. So it made money it made. Money will say out quest. Yeah that was another tidal. Yes there was another one that was planted of ghosts or I don't remember what it was but it had another original title but they did not settle on galaxy of terror. I guess until the last minute. Yeah i think quest was actually the name of the ship and that's what i what i read. Yeah galaxy of terror is a pretty good pretty good name and this box is like very favorite but what part of this and the box are was in the movie out of it. If you're wondering there's none none of those creatures that's too bad because that pterodactyl looking thing is the human sco going after the scantily dressed buxom blonde. What's that in the background with a fork and tongue. That's just that guy's friend. That got the pterodactyl. Edward mac there. That's what he looks like without that. Big rubbery face on so from talking about it last week and Let's just Fix any kind of errors that yes. Edward albert is in this film and he is the son of eddie albert from greenacres fame yet. San is the spawn of from eddie albert and mexican actress dancer. Margot who is shunted not know who that is the sh. She doesn't have a fruit bowl on her head. she note that would be carmen randa. Well i mean she could have one two. Oh yeah we'll. Nobody's saying that i'm carmen. Ran is the only one that can produce head what she does it. Then it's like can't stole your thunder. They're just eat those bananas edward albert. I'm sorry i was looking at sorceress. Here was a different movie. There's a sort sorceress. From nineteen ninety-five that had linda blair and julie strain What's that movie michael parks. Oh boy let's just let's just stop right now. We'll watch that instead. Yeah fred olen. Ray is in it. Let's this looks much better film sock about all the better films than the ones that last week. You said well ha. There's an edward albert shirley. That's not eddie. Albert's son or anything and then we stopped researching at all and out. Yes it is at albertson exactly so that mystery saw we know we know you guys were on the edge of your seat so many emails saying you guys have no clue now fucking clue you guys. Of course those were all from my wife. Hey guys if you're on the edge of your seat back a little bit. There's no reason to be right up on the like lip of the chair. Alright galaxy of terror stars eddie. Albert edward albert. I'm just gonna keep calling eddie. He prefers that you call him edward which he has a does he not just have this. A fake mustaches. That israel as she's on now it kinda comes and goes he. Sometimes he doesn't have one and has one in the same movie. I think they need a continuity person to say. Hey you had the french stickler on the last half erin moran at which both edward albert and erin moran. They both died in their fifties. And the meantime ray walston is a hundred and three. His passed away hasni. He died in two thousand one man. He was really slum. The on i thought for sure that he was going to be an android right. It should have. That actually would've worked out pretty good. I mean in like cameron movies. His his character for sure would have been the android. Probably write the names and this movies they suck. They all sound like foreign cars. Yes so ray. Walston plays core but they call him cook at no point during the film. Do i see cooking anything. I saw him serve. Edward albert like a cup of coffee so it might be a job title rather than dry. Zalman king plays babylon. Yeah pay lawn. Robert england plays ranger that come on guys. I said hey plays q. hod q. Hod it's very close to the character in moby dick. You know sure and he is kind of that character in this movie. The whale name quick. I think he's you know he's just a big silence guy and galaxy of terror I read on the trivia. Stuff that when sid haig when he got onto the set hate went to roger cormon and asked to change his character to quote unquote. A near mute was happening. It means he has one line in the freak near. I'm sorry near mute. So me i guess. He didn't like his dialogue ryan felt that he could do this character better by not speaking. Maybe that one line that he says is very weird. I think it must be like his back story that he i don. I don't know if that was written or if he came up with it But he says something about crystals doesn't he like i live and die by the crystal had crystals like crystal gayle crystal meth crystal bernard from wings. Crystal light crystalline. Maybe maybe he and fruity drinks. Maybe he and Harry belafonte daughter. sherry belafonte. Yes his name. Is harry in her name share okay. Let's just get it out of the way. There is nudity in this and nudity. Of only i only by one actress. Correct right. it's taffy o'connell her name is i thought. It was spelled. T. a. f. e. I thought it was tall. Fee which is what they put in like score bars and stuff. Maybe it's an irish thing. Toffee o'connell tough the calm sailing leprechaun. She's been in a few things. He has thirty one credits She was in rocky to a ring. Okay starsky and hutch. Baretta policewoman bland skis beauties. I remember i've seen that show. Have your religion. Why thon tv man are okay back in the day. Nancy blance gruff but loving busy housing. Mothering done darndest free. Associating words now no. That's exactly what it was the first sentences. Nancy blance blance one difficult name to the comma gruff but loving. That's the sentence Busy housing mothering and evening. Choreographing for a hotel showgirls. Okay that's oh wait a minute. Pat morita okay. Now it all comes full circle. Look at the pictures. 'cause pat morita has dark hair and a little dark moustache. Not looking at any of that by the way. And he's right next to like an eight-year-old scott mayo perfect perv. How you look at exactly. I can see that in my mind. Thank you so much. Nineteen seventy seven tv series. It was a comedy thirty minutes. Show one season so if anybody was worried about that. It's it's canceled. Don't go looking for it karate. Kid must have just kept pat morita from putting a gun in his mouth. 'cause he's in really some real stinkers back. Then they say that a that frigging movie with him in jay. Leno's like one of the worst thing ever. We gotta watch that one of these days. I can't wise guys wasn't lies guys. What was it. I don't care. All i remember is that they have the quote in mitchell. Okay the collision course for whacking. He's on a collision course of wacky Grace zabriskie is the reason we got here. She plays captain. Tran tor yes. She's the captain if she's a captain she's making the worst decisions i'm putting everybody's life and danger within thirty seconds of the movie opening. Hey sometimes you know you gotta break a couple. Eggs are i. I may have mentioned before she is also in the private is yes which i didn't realize that was a corn production and i guess the private is actually made a nice little bank. Yeah i think so. I think it was successful. I thought i read. It was like a made like nineteen million. Wow so and watch that again. We could have been watching it this week but no i chose galaxy of terror. Instead we were gonna watch Bryan song and that's like with one or the other galaxy of terror bryan song. Don't even know what bryan song is. James caan Somebody o'neill ryan o'neal own. No that's not right on coral. Weather's i i don't i still don't care but why am i looking at just to you. Don't have to prove something. Wrong is james. Caan and billy dee williams l. billy dee williams lifestyle and jack ward bernie casey bernie capelle. That's enough bernie. Sanders burns anyway to let our audience know you can watch forbidden world you can. God did you can watch galaxy of tear. Forget it probably do that a lot because these movies were so much alike. Let's let's go ahead and call it. Okay we were talking about this earlier. Let's call it while we're here. Let's go ahead and you know next week. Sweep up all the other trash so next week. We're going to do forbidden world forbidden world. now that i see so many similarities between this movie in alien and aliens now i wonder his forbidden world is also roger gorman correct yes correct. I remember liking for been world a lot more than a galaxy of terror. Yes it does have more boobs yes. It's needed i think. Galaxy of terror is for sure a better movie than forbidden world. I see now. I think we were thinking of forbidden. World mutant is the. This was the original title. Yeah but i. They redid forbidden world and nineteen ninety one really under the title Dead space. Oh okay well then all these like crappy eighties b. movies were like so influential for other bigger budget. Better movies that came along. I mean if you watch that little documentary or that youtube video There's a lot of similarities between galaxy of terror in aliens. You know but of course there are. Cameron did both worked on both of them. And that i mean even when they were breaking down actual scenes and i was like. Oh wow if. They took a lot from galaxy of terror. Forbidden world is a little little sleep easier. I think there's just nudity upfront. it's got fox harrison. It which is always good that that should be a lot of fun keys kind of the mad scientists. He sort of like the character in day of the dead Training bob and stuff. And he's like his own weird experiments with aliens aliens with people alien. Dna will cover it next week about forbidden world. Actually tagline is part alien. Part human all nightmare. That's pretty good What's the tagline for this movie. Your countdown to hell is about to begin. Wow so saying that. A lot of movies borrowed from this movie. It's got a real event horizon which is and even that tagline is basically the story for horizon. Yeah they basically hell on a spaceship. Did roger cormon have any hand. In the event horizon couple of click. Click should tell me clicky. click win. Event horizon had to be nine ninety ninety one. Oh man this just reminding me how cool the video games Dead space are out ninety. Seven ninety seven i would have failed like bar trivia if i was answered that and i would have done the walk ashamed outside and no i do not see that in roger korman's repertoire. Horror and space is always. Stakes are so much higher and there is so little to set this movie up but it kind of feels like the same type of situation. That wasn't alien. Is that maybe. They received a distress signal. Yeah and they were sent to on a rescue mission. It looked like they were already on the ship and right and then just decided okay. Let's go you know. I think it would have been easier. If they would have been in the space to begin with and just traveling around and just kind of like alien maybe they wanted to break it up and show that this is what it's like to take off from earth. I don't know maybe or maybe they didn't have enough money to build another set to show you all of that stuff so let our audience know. You can't watch this on youtube with it's has spanish subtitles. It plays just fine. But i also just found it on daily motion okay. It looks like a better copies on daily motion. Yeah you still don't have closed captioning on it but right you can watch it. You can buy it on prime for two ninety nine or you can rent in ninety nine In reading some of this on the galaxy of terror. I don't think there's a whole lot of extras on that. It is the Said that the there was an x rated version of this film With would be the rape sequence that we will certainly get into. I don't think so. And i'll tell you why. I watched a little documentary. This and also watched that youtube video. That i think you watch and they said that the x rating was because of Audio audio effects or something. Which i don't know if it was just like Like you know like alien noise. Which i mean that can be you know that is gross. There's a scene later that maybe the sound effects might have pushed over the edge. Maybe i watched halloween. Last night Yes and instead of this film. Yes honestly i did as like you know what have a choice to make here. It's the remastered version. I don't know if i just haven't seen it in a while with a good surround sound system but michael is so loud in that movie. He's always he's always reading heavy and This is the remastered version. I need to compare a you know to the whatever version that i watched before but a i really think it was a choice. They were making too. I don't know to make him seem more human. Because he's like out of breath from running around and appearing everywhere or but he really does sound like the killer from student bodies. It's kind of out the breeder. Which i was the breeder for halloween. That's new seem excited about. Do i need to see pictures of this. So he had rubber boots rubber gloves rubber chicken and a horse head book in. Yeah the horse said book and is the only new thing all the other stuff. You just normally wear ryan have via gotta get one of those said book and stuff so anyway the galaxy of terror on daily motion. I think the the transfers so much better way better. There's a third version on youtube that you can watch that. Is somebody took their Look like they're iphone and pointed at the tv and recorded the entire thing for you so you choose which freaking transfer. You actually went to watch. The beginning of the movie has just to kind of incoherent scenes. Slapped together yes. I didn't know what was going on. From the beginning there. Just running around Frigging crapped out ship. Yes and the very beginning. The guy Also called him an astronaut there no astronauts in this movie note. there's a crew member that would entail that they would actually put on a helmet or something. Right yeah you don't become an astronaut until you put that a fishbowl thing on your head but the guy at the beginning is running around with like a it. Looks like a heat gun in. I'm sure it's like a futuristic gun. A you don't know why you don't see what he's running from but he closes. A hatch is just in a james cameron movie. It would have been like a look good and really well done but that basically just looked like an old of cabinet door handle but he kind of slides that thing together and has a little welder and welds the door. Shut to keep out as i assume alien. Is it a welder. Or did he just turned his phaser to well. Maybe because it does look. Yeah maybe it does kind of look like a blaster from both glows red for a second. Yeah but just very reminiscent of how they seal off doors in one of my favorite scenes from aliens he seals himself into what what is it kind of looks like the morgue of the spaceship bradley or like the hammer drawer. Because it's just like a bunch of shit just around. Well he there's a quick shot of him looking over to a body this laying on a slab and write it. Half of its head is missing. You can see the brains exposed. Does it looks like a school. Like av room or something. No i'm confused already. My rut remember watching the right move. They i don't know i think you're right. I think it is the morgue. There's like a little seen whereas like a porthole in the side of the ship and he sees a freaking alien head which really kind of made me think of terror vision. Yeah what happens then. I have no no no clue he starts break dancing. He himself against the wall smoshing by himself. Yeah and like strawberry. Jelly comes out of his mouth. So i know cut to old lady whose lips are being sucked into her head and a guy with a glowing red head. Yeah playing like cocktail like a miss. Pacman type cocktail game now. It's more like kicks. Is that where it was kicks or quicks. I game similar to as low like a cross between arc annoyed and Tempest the one where you're hanging. You're kind of like. I don't think i've ever played that game why you've never played tempests no. I played tempus. That's another reason. I put a spinner on my arcade. Thank god yeah no. I'm talking about kicks or whatever quicks or whatever you wanna call. I never played that game. It didn't look very fun. Managed a bunch of shapes. Were already on our spaceship. And i don't know what that beginning scene was announce you're a big headed Friggin commander calls the whole crew together. And within a few minutes of grace. Being on the scream. She's like a were launching. The bay doors start opening thirty seconds until launch. Damn people are just getting on the ship. Oh shit yeah. I mean we need to hurt. What do we have like daylight savings time or something. But of course. Edward albert still has a chance to lay one on erin moran before he gets strapped into a seat. Can we just call her joni. Yes caller joni. that's fine. there's a weird scene where Said hey ray walston kind of do like a three stooges walk through the door at the same time and stop and kind of look at each other one of them's carrying a board he's like. Hey what's that over. There don't smack upside the. And i i love this that Very very young. Robert england running around the ship like a maniac. I guess what that little video is saying. That robert england wanted to be roger cormon films. I mean he just ate it up. He is like one of the things in this movie. That i'm kind of genuinely happy. When he saw a ray walston. I just saw what you're talking about. I mean sit hey is like two feet taller than him are easy. He is like got his chest up and out and his like as nearly the best he's ever looked in any. Yeah you're right. You're right somehow. He looks younger in this than other things where he was much older. Yes oh my god the big girl using herself as a Seat belt trying to get to musing. She just wraps her arms or legs around him to hold. Freddy krueger in the chair wouldn't work. I don't think i don't know how space works. Also the look on his face is like he's the one hot. It's all very confusing. He looks he looks like he's orgasm. Ing-wen away yeah. They take off from earth within a few minutes of the opening credits and they're in space and there's maybe two minutes while they're floating around in space as she decides that she turns it into a hyper jump to get closer to their destinations. She's reckless very reckless. All when they were taking off they were showing little shots from around the ship. In like canisters of stuff were like falling. Oh ruin the this. There's a has been secured. I feel like morale is low on the ship already because of grace and her weird is when she decides to go into hyper drive. there's only a fifteen second countdown. Did sheet up. The she announced that. Hey we're getting ready to arbitrary numbers that she's just choosing out of thin air alright and twenty three seconds range. Can i just call her. Sarah palmer for the rest of the makes it easier for me. Mrs palmer also then going through. Hyperspace vary psycho very trippy after the hyper jump Ladies and gentlemen after nine minutes now you can take your mushrooms not before this soul right. Bow bow banner. Now now ray walston looks like he's been in the mushrooms a little bit Just the fact that he doesn't do any basically has no facial expressions in this movie. Da- that's why i thought he was an android. Who's the first Android alien gosh. I can't think of his name british actor. Yeah he's he's dead now he's bilbo. Yeah bilbo what's his name. Yeah i'll forget it. But anyway i mean all they did to make him android just having spilt milk. All over the place could have done that for a array so we're out of hyperspace. We see our destination planet in home as his name. Sorry you thank you ian. Oh are they too close to the planet's atmosphere and they start getting sucked in. I don't know man because they everybody relaxes for just a moment. And what happens. Oh another emergency. They're being sucked in. She gives up very quickly. Mrs palmer gives up very quickly. She's like oh. Well i guess we're dead. I can't break this pool. Do they not have to do like a psychiatric evaluation people. i mean. she's obviously has some problems. There is one line from one of the other crew members that says something about her last mission or a mission that she's notoriously known for that. She came back by herself with the ship. Okay so all of the crew members were lost. That seems little. That seems a little fishy you know. I guess that's how she became captain of this bucket of bolts all of the restraints and not restraints but all the seat belts are literally seatbelts from like a plymouth. Valiant or something in that little video it did say that. The uniforms that they're wearing were leftovers from Battle star galactica. I noticed that. I mean i don't think they even did much to dress them up. Slap a couple of patches on them on my god zalman king says son of a cyborg as a curse in this and it makes me wanna break my monitor. She she gave up. She just knew they were going to crash. Land we're going to all die. Yeah and then realize. Maybe i can skip us to a landing like well. Maybe i can. I don't know let me let me. Just click a couple of these buttons and we show the other crew members faces as as they're preparing for this. Ray walston still ahead russian lewis said he is like he is trying as hard as he can not to let a golf ball fall out of his ass or something they land in grace's a ski skips away. She's like everything's going. According to plan this is a surprisingly big cast. Yeah there's a lot of people to have stuff happens in and i couldn't necessarily keep up with who who are what. Their job was air. In the i mean joanie is is she just a clairvoyant. Hairstylist thinks she's just there to cut their hair and make out with edward albert. I guess like that'd be funny if they're kissing and then pull away and she's wearing the mustache should all wants to that. It's a road mustache. Old classic i wanna talk about their pax. Those who kind of cool. They're kinda cool. They also looked like they went to a scrap yard. And just got a like reverse lights or something. Those are from buick. yeah for sure. Definitely buick headlight. Every time solomon king comes by. He's just got one like blinking on like he left the turn signal on hanging guys in that little short video i think they said that most of the set design was Trash yeah. They said they went dumpster diving to like you know to kinda decorate the walls. Make it look a little more. Yeah juristic textured walls out of painted. Mcdonald's takeout boxes james cameron at his finest. He was responsible for the reason why they went over budget for sure but arguably made it a better movie. Yeah i like it. That sid haig has that. A see-through boomerang thing yes. Those are the crystals oh those are his crystal knives. yes they're like throwing stars. Oh my god it doesn't set it up at all. Yeah but i love this. They they get onto the wreckage of the ship. That i guess they got the signal from. It's so unclear. What's going on. The they're just showing up and checking things out also doesn't help that. This ship looks exactly like the ship all the same. They kind of got some like electrical conduit and just dangled from the ceiling of the wrecked ship. I totally love this. That one of the bodies of the crewmembers kind of falls down like your normal horror movie. You know dangling by the fee. Yeah there should have been a cat and sid haig throws his crystal star into immediately. Yeah just exactly. Check for paul sore Nounce just set him on fire. They destroy all the bodies that they find. They're like basically covering up whatever they're destroying. Everyone bit of evidence which is why they're on the ship is. Is this a rescue mission. Or is it a government cover as it training like a video game for them. I mean granted if you would have set up that maybe there was a parasite that these Bodies had to be killed with flame had to be disposed of but they waste no time and doing this to everybody. They see a dead body. They're shooting it. Destroying it disintegrating eddie. albert looks. Lucky lights off about ten sparklers in another dead bodies head. And they're like. Yeah that one's done. At least. But sid haig is is holding. These crystal stars mean. They're plastic stars. They are almost kind of look. Like what's under the like glass part of the turntable in your microwave. A little bit kind of they go great but sharp it shows a little I don't know if that's claymation. Or i don't know what kind of special effect that was but you see a little out definitely stop motion. I saw again definitely this Horley done harry harry. Housing would be weeping at this point out. Yes moving at four frames per se. Yes herky-jerky i just thought again and it looks kinda cool now. Kind of looks like a salamander. So the premise that was explained is at the crew members on this ship or planet there being stalked by their biggest fears. Yeah so but we've we've not set up any of their fears beforehand. What are you afraid. We're just seeing these things attack them right. I mean unless everybody's fear is that they're going to get eaten by alien and they're you know the as for character development not a lot now. Nobody knows what their motivation is. Except for grace zabriskie. I think she's the only one that has created a actors You know a backstory for herself and apparently it's that she's really bad at her job but somehow she just keeps getting promoted until she has. She's got one more ranked to go captain. She needs to be a commander at one. That alien kills that other old guy than she's right. Maybe that's her plan is like you know instead of links sleeping with her you know. It is She'll just go on these dangerous missions and if she can survive them then she gets a promotion. There you go actually. It's pretty smart actually enjoying this movie a lot more than i. It's more fun listening and watching it with you than it is just buyers by yourself. It's pretty rugged it's pretty right. Well i was just looking at Edward albert His second movie was nineteen. Seventy two butterflies are free right. Goldie hawn exactly. I may have seen this back in the day when i was a kid. I have no idea that night sounds really familiar. Yeah and it. It reads a blind man moves into his own apartment against the wishes of his overprotective mother and befriends of freethinking young woman next door freethinking in that she primarily is in bra and panties through the the entire film which is another reason to go back and watch this film to well. Yeah i mean. I was flipping through the pictures. And every one is partial nudity as she looks to be just wearing her laugh in outfit which abroad panties or a teeny. I guess it's awesome. But edward albert should disavow this movie simply because of weird civil war hat that he's wearing through half of it. Looks like is that okay. I firmly click on that tab glove or they firm click that we talk about him being in the killer bees. No i keep getting stuck in his imdb. Like i hit a wall. And i'm just like a only wanna look at anything else. It looks like you know he was a leading man. He was a star many of these films and the killer. Bees is A strong willed woman not only dominates her family of california offers but also has a strange hold on a colony of bees and are really am i going. That's that doesn't rain killer. Bees at all no has strange. That is strange. That's nineteen seventy four. That was a tv movie. Yeah Yeah and firmly clicking off that yeah. I got got way too caught up in that kate jackson than it though alan fudge. Maybe matter any fudging in oakland hey you got some fudge. I made a little t shirt that was going to send to you. That just says Have you accepted allen's fudge as your lord and savior is beautiful. You didn't send it to me. What's wrong i didn't yet. I don't know why since it's a inside joke between literally just me having the only well hence the reason why we have You know horror movies. Make me hot still right. They only joke between you. And i That's not a joe. Shared it with our audience. If you listen to our program on the back of our Main t shirt. Our stack of vhs tapes has that you know the goutte in cocoon the cute in cookham and cocoon really leaned in on the kuchma part of it. Yes definitely alarm. I had to explain that to To one of our listeners of you know what that actually came from. Because he's a. I was trying to look it up and i couldn't get with and our listeners out there start the hash tag cocoon leased. Do not start dash. I'm sure steve good burgers already corner. That yeah yeah. He's on top of that. He bought the domain name. So who is bernard barons barry. He might be the only one that i didn't look up. Oh he was in the miami two brains. The changeling okay. I did see that. Yes that's weird. We're watching the changeling tonight awesome. You've already called it. Some halloween list was saying that. Changeling was like the scariest movie ever really. I thought we read that in said that the sinister was the scariest movie right. Well i think it's within the list that they had put together. The changhong was like the scariest one out of the list. But i don't remember it being like terrifying. So did we mention that Bernard barons was also in resurrection. Oh really He was in one episode. Bosom buddies Okay he played. Obi wan kenobi in the radio. Drama of star wars. Oh man guess what the same year that this came out. Wow the radio. Progress radio drama. I think is to have that on audio cassette somewhere. My wife would let me turn that into goodwill. Yeah she's like those. That's going to be worth something when it will not here to tell you it will not i can see future and Yeah stock prices are going down. Weird revenge of the sun demon. Wow where do you see that i. It's just on their what's funny is like. It's i've seen the hideous sunday man. There's one called what's up hideous. Sunbeam and i think it's what you know. They're kind of doing the the a tiger lily thing where it's a movie that already exists. And then they dub in other dialog and voices. You know what i mean. Sure there's only been a few movies like that. T j hooker highway to heaven and remington steele. Yes he was in an faithfully yours. Which i i brought this up before. Because i love this film. Because it was dudley moore. Natasha can be armanda. Sunday was a lot of fun. Yeah there was a Empire strikes back radio drama tv series. Is this tv series. But it's a regional radio drama tv series. So i don't know maybe we should just cut our losses right now. Just go back to the movie. Although i do wanna bring up that he is in yet another dracula series. Who just called dracula the series relics. Berry like sci fi channel or something says nineteen ninety but he plays van helsing though. That's gust gustave helsing in. Hell says that's the thing. I don't know i don't don't know. Don't care outcome on. Firmly clicking off click off. Sounds like click in the fuck. Aw hey click off. Yeah but there's return of the jet. I finally radio drama series in nineteen ninety six. They really held out for that one. I'm going to start listening to it immediately when the cast is over. I'm gonna start listening to a right now. I'm going to go back in time and listen to all right. Let's get on with the movie because this guy okay. There is one like Kind of like a red jumpsuit. Guy that you know is going to die. I oh you mean the one. That was vomited twice already. It's like is is Clam chowder the only thing that they're serving. He is sloshing with it. Is he being chased by the giant cockroach. I yes i think yes question mark and they kinda left him behind on the wreckage and rely come on and he's just still just bumbling. It's either i wanted to die from this thing base. I think so is he. 'cause is he jack. Blessing me all the other people. I've looked at in except for him. Is i m d like a profile. Shot his him in just his ass as he is trying to negotiate all this crap that they put in one of the corridors in this movie he could have picked a better when that even him barf ing would have been better than can look like. He's in the trash compactor. Pen star wars right yet but his death is kind of fun. He's got those all tentacles wrap around his midsection as cold and one hand that kind of grabs the top of his head. Yeah i was just waiting for to rip some of the flesh bag s you'll his head completely off too expensive to show here at still pretty good death. I see now like we're so unsure of what anybody does on that. Freddie krueger is just poking around on the dead guy's face is he. A dog is big boob lady. A doctor 'cause she's poking around to everybody else we destroyed. But i guess now there was a little seen when sid haig comes back to meet the rest of the crew before they leave jack blessing behind. He's got a big burlap sack. And i suppose that's what the body was in. The he added just thrown over his shoulder. Is that the body of jack. Blessing a cause or is that one of the dead people from the from the ship that had to be from the ship. Okay good glide. We figured that out. Okay burlap sack with a guy in his face is gone. I do kind of like they. Kind of zoom in on the face yes through closed captioning television and they can zoom in a little bit and Well yeah because of because I can only say freddy kruger. Lost my mind. I guess you have robert. England robert england. They ask him something he kind of flips around like. I don't know what do you think there's a faceoff being kind of you know pissed off about it. It has like a pair hema stats. And he's just like poking the thing. Okay so we saw that scene and they just walked outside really like that Big pyramid that that shot from behind then that reveals that big pyramid as very cool looking. They made it look pretty big. And i saw a picture of james cameron i guess working on the the effects to create that pyramid rut. It looked pretty cool. Yep and making it all look very. Hr giger it's just a big painting. a pause. Just one second here. Because i gotta talk about jack blessing. Okay all right we gotta get this deal. Yes new info here okay. Blessing was a tv series. Nineteen eighty-three called small and frye. That sounds familiar. For some reason with darren. Mcgavin was and it was a private i team. He was the other part of the team. His name was chip fry. So yeah now. That i'm kind of looking at it. I think it is meant to be a little tongue in cheek. You know and i just clicked on. Dick wilson was barfly guy. He's destroyed guy he's the don't squeeze the sharm man that'll take somebody back but they don't say is he he. He got millions for doing that. And very wealthy very in toilet paper turns they just hate him and toilet paper but Jack blessing remington still family ties. Hamburger the motion picture. Oh oh oh. He was in summer school. He was a student in summer school. Oh my god you're so right that's crazy. I knew i recognized him but that was all after galaxy of terror was eighty one. We're talking about chip and fry was eighty three hamburger. The motion picture eighty six summer. School was eighty seven. I'm always surprised by. I mean i just assumed that some of these movies are just smack dab in the eighties. And they're actually in the early nineties Role hazy around that mitzi. He was An tv series called murder one How about cracker mind over. Murder of sounds like white supremacist. Angela lansbury accepted. But i guess it's murder. One was something because they candidate On another stint at call the murder. One diary of a serial killer ninety-seven So he was on the george. Lopez tv series That's what i knowing. That's that's where you know i'm from. I'm clicking off this tab. We solved the you think good job. He's dead we won't see him again. He died in two thousand. Seventeen pancreatic cancer great leaving him on a high note on a high note. Actually most of these actors in this movie are dead that maybe from making this film. You're the you're the only one is floated that conspiracy look at. Not saying he didn't. I'm not saying you didn't didn't if you know what i mean. You're officially just send me an acceptance letter. I forgot that. Carl reiner is in summer school. He's one of the teachers leaves. You know they're all like fleeing the school because they don't want to teach summer school moving. You wanna watch that instead of this. Can we stop now now. I like this movie for other one thing. They don't set this pyramid thing up at all. Right who what is it. Have no idea what's happening in the movie. And i've got the subtitles on well in the spanish ones got so confused. I have the remastered version of this movie. Aleks pretty damn good. Yeah but it has subtitles on Scout skimming amar because there. There is one line in this that i thought tried to explain it calling it a child's game okay. That this and that kind of made me think of that beginning. Seen when they were playing miss. Pacman right the glowing red headed guy. They were playing a game but they said this was a kids game. So i really needed a find out more about this. While i'm i'm here to tell you you probably will not figure it out. No i think we're putting more thought into than they did so but they start scaling this this pyramid yeah and are aged commander. Yeah climbing up and he decides to go ahead of everybody. The camera stays on taffy. And i think this is pretty hilarious. I know he climbs up further and it just focused on her. Yes as the commander goes forward up this and then just immediately slides back and tumbles his way past titles said we. Yeah it's either. The game remains like all right. I think the focus on this old man's ass or these giant boobs not much of a choice. I guess they put in her contract that yes she was supposed to be nude right and also save it to the scene. But i've got some trivia to to read off to you about the maggot right about the maggot rape. Did you want me to say maggot rape. I if you're wondering if there's maggie rape in the movie there definitely is maggie raping a girl at innocent. Yes and you can check that off your bingo card. Yes i love roger cormon. I absolutely love him as a man as a producer as you know but this period of time. They're showing him in that documentary. He looks like i mean it's the seventies or even roger cormon has a little mustache you know but like a kind of thin one and It looks like if gilligan was on like a fbi watchlist nothing is. They've very creepy. And then when you throw in the maggot right leg. So there's no real setup for this. But i guess while they're climbing up they're not even at the top of the pyramid that there's a whole in which the captain sides that he is going to repel down i would say it's the butthole of the period. Can we say that. I think it is also there. I i don't remember if they probably gave like an extremely cheesy like year that this happens like the you're three thousand or something. They're using rappelling gear. Just regular repelling stuff. Oh yeah from like well the seventies guess didn't try to dress it up at all. Nope storyline says when a spaceship ramos crash lands on a planet more ganthier. It's the planet master of sends space craft quest to rescue them but it crash lands. Belan leads them away. compromising himself It doesn't make any sense. His rival cavern size sensitive. A luma medic de mia martial arts fire q. hod okay. So he's a martial arts fighter. Did you ever get that new. He did throw a punch once if he had been the cook. I would've been like excuse the cook. It looks like the cook and jittery rookie. 'cause now that's the only accurate description in the entire yes. I know exactly which character they're talking about. Finding only a brutally murdered bodies aboard the ramos quest personnel. He says personal says question can personnel. Start getting brutally slaughtered. One by one themselves with their ship still damaged. The team investigates nearby lifeless alien pyramid not realizing it's using their own personal fears to hunt them down and kill them so basically everyone in this movie is extremely dumb. Your just the dumbest person in the world are so back to Get your commander rappelling down the butthole of the pyramid yet and those little tentacle arms well no the tentacle arms. Just kinda jump out at him and he's quick to cut those tentacles off man. Yeah he's in it. He was ready for anything yet finally news but if these are his fears actually attacking him. Hey was ready to confront his own fear. I guess in like a mystical. I i saw that. Let's you're getting all native american with that. I don't think they really. I mean again. It's like the confronting their own fears. I mean one of my biggest fears would be being eaten by an alien. And if that's the case then yes. That is playing with their fears of being eaten by alien. I think ray walston acting choice which is convenient because it's also his In real life choice is just be as drunk as possible while this is. He is said like three words. He looks depressed. Maybe he got his script mixed up with said. Hey when we were. He was the same way it was like. Hey i'm the quiet. No i don't wanna say i can say less than you. So while everybody's out risking their lives so we got the captain and the cook just hanging out eating grace ab- risky looks like she's eating cat food. It's like fancy feast new. I think that maybe since them what what is it battle of the battle the stars battle beyond the stars battle the network stars. Something completely different. Although i think a lot of these people were probably on acted like battle. Star galactica you know before this. I probably shares a lot of the same. I guess just once everybody was you know clued into the star wars universe and how it worked then all this other stuff should be like. Okay yeah i get it. You know but i don't get it. I will have to say the the sets in this pretty cool are pretty freaking. Cool pretty elaborate. They're getting a little crappier when they get into the pyramid yeah. I don't know what part of the pyramid they're on but a door starts to open on the pyramid. I think they're at the penthouse is okay when that happens but the door start to open and said hey throws his crystal ninja stars. Churn ninja stars to stop the door from opening right. That didn't make any sense to me. I'm like why. Why do you care if it's if you stop it there. The door is still open. You just you just wasted those things unless you can make more of those things. Now you're weaponless right and also. They shattered really very easily. He's about to cry. Yeah i think later Is is only line is when somebody gives him a gun and he doesn't wanna take it right. That's what he says. I live and die by the crystals. Yeah he's hunkered down and looks like he's crying well. They had the soles of his mother and father. In the oh is that. What did you not catch that home early. That he looks insane and everything he does. Oh does marry intense guy but his death is pretty cool. Can't wait till all the characters are dead. But no they're going down these this alien corridor and it like you said it's pretty gig rish You know it has weird like light setup senitment. Yeah yeah they don't necessarily find anything together the this whatever this is trying to separate them to kill them one by one right and later a here in just a bit do they not go into a. It's like an alien glasshouse. Know as little glass mazes you go to the carnival that you can't you know you're like a room of mirrors. Yes house of mirrors. But that always had bingo prints face prints and right. How often again we knows yeah again. How did we survive childhood. I don't know yes said hague's death scene his stars reform and attack him. Yes that i thought was awesome. I did suit. He's he's basically just pouting and they just reform right has a problem with doors to that other door. He wasn't too cool with a tried to like get smushed in it that they'll sharda that blake going up his arm. Is it kind of made me kind of ten. Yeah that's looks cool. It does cool at for some reason when he was going through that door and the door was closing on him and he was trying to hold it open for a split second. He kind of looked like the rock a little bit. Yeah more gangly but still then just stars reform. He goes over to pick them up. But somehow how does it get stuck in his arm. It just it kind of like throws itself adding and sticks in his arm just eros breaks off the point and it's supposed to look like it's traveling bizarre but it kind of looks like he helped push it into his arms. Yeah yeah that's where there's a little bit of blood man. That's probably the most blood was seeing this film and chops off his own arm with the other stars happened or i didn't see a weapon in his hand. I didn't know what that was. It can look like just karate chops his own arm. Yeah it really did. It has severed arb- comes back to life and throws a star into his chest. He hire a very evil dead so and his fears. If i'm dying by his own yeah. I mean i guess yeah i could see that is. Is ray walston now as he is he in a barber's chair. What is that. i don't know. I don't even consider him as in the movie now. It's like they walk past a room with him in it and he is just like smoking a cigarette and reading like a you know robert england came by and he sees him sitting down this cherries get kind of a little blanket around him round his waist or something and he's reading the book and i think robert england comes and he's like is that the script is what you read it. I don't wanna read that literally. Never read it. Also this the events in this movie kind of looked like a boon to Robert englund. He's just kind of bopping along like hey what's going on. Glad i don't have to go to the death planet that everybody else. So i dig this now taffy. Find sid haig dad. She sets him on fire. She sets his arm on fire. You see your face as she's lighten him up. It doesn't really show it. I think maybe i missed that. You don't really know that. She has a fear of bugs right like hawaii. Why neal worms all of because they're not maggots arms. Only been there for like you know. It's weird is like there's already a couple of things in here that i noticed from like prometheus movie that came out just like a couple of years ago which is like those worms and there's another like very Kind of like this maggot thing. All ving and getting bigger. And oh no the captain those little sucker tentacle faintness that were on him. That those look like the things in prometheus to kind of get inside that one guy soudan. I think that's ballsy that like they were like you know. Let's st all this idea from this shitty movie that nobody's ever going to see this worm. Yeah just grows to enormous size. Yes and somehow sneaks up behind her she's wandering around like she's looking for stuff. She sees the slugged trail from this right yet is like glue ping but she doesn't see it. Which is absolutely huge yet. Solitaire giant right. It looks like it's like the size of like a jupiter jamba. Housing easy is huge. It looks like when mothra is in her like people stage or whatever annexing pupil stage. I'm going to pause it right here. Right in the middle of this alien worm rape to off some trivia. Okay good all right. This is straight off. Imdb trivia this movie was originally rated x by the mpaa. The following cuts were made for an r rating scenes of a visceral and protracted shot of a scalp corpse with part of its skull missing. Okay several frames from the infamous worm rape scene showing the giant worms thrusting movement and the victim's face and ecstasy and the climax of both of them sounds of bones breaking from a scene which another female character gets crushed by living wires. The original x rated version of the film is confirmed to be lost or destroyed. I don't know if that's a good thing or a bad right Taffy was nearly crushed by a one ton giant wormed during the filming of the notorious rape scene. Ya that was also in the kind of making of yes. I will put linked to that of the website. Because i thought that was a really cool. I think everybody should watch that. Yes she should she could have died. originally tabbies character was supposed to be attacked and eaten by the giant worm after she ended up topless men when roger cormon toured through to see how everything is going. She's like he's like there should be more rate. Interspecies the the to her being raped was a last minute. Decision by roger corman who had promised the investors that there would be a nude sex scene with her at which Calling that a sex scene is now now. They're just shows you about the the level of sleaziness that his investors have well and again at this time. Imagine roger cormon in tiny little white shorts right the are just barely covering his scrotum a skippers hat and a tiny thin mustache. And he's telling them. I think the giant maggots should rate rafi Though she didn't want to do it but later agreed after getting them to pay her more money. She didn't object to the nudity while filming. She was upset by the fact that the set and slime that she had to be coated with they were freezing. The day shoot so yes said the kyiv cold ky. Taffy used a body double for some of the full nudity featured in the notorious giant maggot. Rate saying how many times are we going to say that she said in an interview that corman told her that she needed to be topless for the filming and said that he would shoot angles where nothing else was revealed so she agreed to take her clothes off but then corman who filmed the same. Had the camera man angle the camera so her bare breasts were clearly visible. He basically said psych. Yeah but they did Bring in a body double the stumm hooker on our right Taffy character death scene was changed significantly. The initial writing the scene had the magazine only stripping off her clothes and consuming her while she was topless. Corman has promised his financial backers of the movie would have a sex scene involving her. So the two ideas together. The rewritten scene included a full nudity. And far more explicit sexual content including the simulated sexual intercourse and ended with her moaning. Provocatively covered an excreted slime and being driven to an orgasm so intense. It kills her stop rating. Just start reading right now. I don't wanna know any of that. But when i was watching the scene because i mean it's when she gets stripped down in this thing is raping her. She does start mony an end to she kind of gets into it. It's glue coffee. It's slimy disgusting in more ways than just it's pretty disgusting and probably the reason why everybody wants to watch it. Yeah i probably. They say that six people had to control this thing because it was so big. I didn't say that but it is like it's huge huge. I'm surprised that james cameron that doesn't come up in a you know like interviews with him and stuff like a So what about that maggot rape scene was that your idea. Yeah exactly like oh no. It's cormon we know exactly this ideals well so got her the dead naked. Koa covered body in zoman king is. He's the first one to light everything on fire. I don't know why that's his job. Specifically i guess he's got the flame thrower but but as soon as they see her body laying there they just. She's dead. Nobody checks for a pulse. No nothing no. They just set her on fire. Yeah have you ever smelled k when it's on fire But yeah like that's never like established that you know in other movies it would be like. She's contaminated now or something. So there's no way i am disappointed that you didn't bring up. A what is this. Some kind of sexual lubricant god seventies. Were just so gross Alejandro rey would have improved. this cast. tell for sure. He at least be wearing like a Like a hawaiian shirt or like a smoking jacket or something. So grace her thing is i guess. Reliving her past of when she lost her entire crew and so she's trying to kill something that's not there. I don't know it was confusing. And now she's jobless. Oh no wait a minute. They made her captain of huge shared with people with a bunch of people. Her death is so quick and it doesn't make any sense. I don't think i saw it on the first go through. Oh she just burst into flame into flames. I think i read somewhere. That her sane was supposed to have a more elaborate death but because they spent all their money on you know worm raping the maggot. Ray ray walston does a karate chop to the back of freddy krueger's head does and god damn it now. I can't think this name. He's just gonna be friday now. Robert england robert england comes in and finds him in the control room. He's he was like somebody hit me. You know anybody come through here. Somebody hit me. I had ray walston like no. I haven't seen anything anything. Any kind of a snickers so. I chopped him again. Never sets him up as like. How does he know how to do. Like a vulcan neck pinch thing whatever he did and he could be the cook he could be the av guy he could be. A stowaway knows my least favorite. Martian is hilarious. Do they show robert england's death because he's going through this ship the real ship not the wreckage and he finds her body. Okay yeah that's weird the only way you could tell it was her because it was her hair. They're all like kind of smiling. I you know liked it. Made it out of the. Hey i guess we don't have to ration our food anymore yet. wants seconds. yeah now. they're all hanging out. They measure be playing or something space pleased him space and that little guy just kind of fell off. Oh that was solomon king. I guess he got his guts ripped out and then he Then they threw him off the side of that thing his guts being ripped out. That was pretty cool as it was fun. The documentary things said that they just went to like a mexican supermarket or something next door and got a bunch of pig guts because it's cheaper than making it. Yeah and it looks cool. They go back into the pyramid. There is a A goonies waterslide. Seen a ha- you always gotta have slide so joni sliding down this waterslide thing and she gets stuck in the middleman and she sits there for a moment. she kind like You know sitting in a fetal position kind of holding her legs tour. And all i could think of this a waterside. Somebody is going to slam into you. Exactly shanley disliked quit working. Well that's not how slide war you've you've got a you know some effort into kind of kick your legs out or something to get going. I think robert england slides into her and pushes her all the way down. Eight doesn't even say. I'm sorry or look out anything just like oh. Hey we're down. All right yeah. That was fun. it's just in my way. Come on let's do it again. Climb back up to the top. I think they're so far in the future. They don't know what slides are after that slide and they come out into the inner structure of this pyramid. That looks cool. Yeah that looks. It looks huge yet. Does i saw a part of that as a matte painting that i think james cameron i could be wrong. I think he made it. And it has like a depth to it and it makes it look huge. It's a great effect. it really is. I like the shadow play and they call this. The shadow demon. I thank the ass shadow demon. Is this where we actually get to see the alien face. Yes and it's kind of a triangle. Little weird looking looks very similar to a queen alien or something similar features which again this movie came out. I so i thought this pretty comical though when zalman king's walk in and you can see the alien feet as it's underneath the bridge. Yeah that was weird stalking him. From underneath that was that was fun. It basically. it looks like it has eggs on know those boots that girl those like before ramos who are like moon boots or something. The alien has like human feet they talk about. The mission was ordered by the master. That was very unclear of who the master is. I just assumed it was. Lv yeah the master. There's only one robert. England mentions the master to and i was like but by this time. It's like anything care if there is a more coherent story or anything. Let's just and that's what i thought was like the video game aspect to this is because who ever made it to the end or is the lone survivor becomes the master. Wait a minute wait a minute. Wait a minute okay. Now i'm thinking like the red faced guy in the old lady was not playing Zach or whatever yes are. They like like chessboard. Style like controlling the stuff. Because i don't know what that scene has to do it anything. That's what i was reaching for will. Then let's just agree that that is the story because it makes more sense in never talk about it again. Don't bring it up. no follow up on this. That's actually making getting through the last third of this movie pretty easy from. I finally feel like there's something to grab onto other than just just a few deaths. Zalman king's death is pretty cool. aaron moran joni gets trapped in the house of mirrors. What a for greatest nightmare was. Just chachi appears from behind when they look at each other in this house of mirrors. You know when they're trapped beyond just basically making goofy faces at themselves. They don't even try to talk. I can only assume we can't hear each other right yet. It's basically like a quarter inch of plexiglass. You can probably hear them. Yeah he's giving her like you know. Hand gesture commands and she has no idea what he's saying to her because they were stepping through this little triangle lit door. Yes when each character steps into it kinda gets them separated into their own little nightmare right. Yeah i think that's correct. It quickly disappeared after a step through it. Yeah yup. I think you're right so it's a good movie though what's joni. He's fear though. Her death is kind of cool and she's like really acting right now is she. I mean more than she has up to this point. You said erin moran died young too. Yes yes she diner fifties. But when robert england starts getting attack by robert england other robert england. Yeah his stunt double really doesn't look anything like him for. You are getting a preview of like the freddie face and stuff yeah. This is reminiscent of freddie as well because at some point despite their fight freddie. I mean robert. England robert england against each other their echo. Hey quits believing that. The other him could do harm to him. Yeah i think what he's thinking is like. I find make friends with him. He could jerk. What's happening. I don't know might be editorializing. This other self just kind of disappears after he quits believing that he could hurt him. As it's thought that was kind of a reminiscent of freddy krueger kind. Yeah when nancy quits believing and freddie right loses all this power yeah joni though being trapped at her own if right she is just acting off right here and it doesn't really show like what she's being just like kind of wiggling wires of it. It is kind of like sawing her in half. do it crushes her. I it's hilarious. Oh yeah ooh her head. Fuck blows up yes i remember like it just explodes. That is very similar to that. Seen in ethiopia. I hate referencing slightly better movies but same thing happens in this. I'm watching that scene right now. She's she's being wrapped up. I know why this is her. Fear of would be scared to say totally legitimate fear but kind of made me think of a prison as well with the yapping around her mouth and but yeah that exposure is off. It is cool. It's like her heads made of like crispy like a you know like nutty buddy's you know they have that kind of like the wafers. Yeah well yeah like a way for movies kind of bottomed out after she die for jones gone because now eddie. Albert's he's sad. They don't set her on fire immediately. The rules about setting things on fire are really. It's anybody's guess and this is where it. Just kinda got confusing right. This is where it got confusing. What happened to robert england because he was going up the side of the pyramid. This is where like ray walston action hero comes in looks like remo williams or he's kinda got that action hero pose he does. That's yeah exactly as at the top of the pyramid saying. Come and get me right. This is what you've come here for. That means that mustache guy is his greatest. Fear is a ray walston. Fight right sure. He should be afraid of that. He's also walking through with his gun like he would in like magnum pi. or like. i wanna. I do watch the scene again. It was it was kinda strange. And i think i kinda fell asleep at this part if you're gonna fall asleep in this movie. This is where it's going to happen. But are we led to believe that ray walston the entire time has been this quote unquote master. This being. I'll know he was the cook that never cooked anything that never cooked anything but he wore an apron that should have been their first clue like he's got an apron on but he's he's continuing to cook. Nothing for us breezy just eating cat. Food like fancy aren't even have a cat. The final showdown with ray walston is at one tan. Read the read the closed captioning and see if you can make sense. Do they divulge. Do they just unload the plot right here. No i mean ray. Walston is again calling it a children's game and that the pyramid is a toy yes and his head starts glowing red just like the very beginning the other guy that we have no idea was so but they're saying that that eddie albert is the last surviving right. He says you won. The game will. What happened to robert england hated. Maybe he's just to score to win these various squirrelly but yeah that he basically is just setting it up as a final boss battle in video game which you know. This guy hasn't won anything. He is constantly just thrown around up rape magazine. Shows up to in the scene that yeah so he shoots all the tentacles. And then i think you have to shoot the head a couple of times roll. Shoot it again jump. Jump it's basically like metro-wide. That's what i say left right left right up down. Yeah hey yeah that's how you win. Now that's how you get ninety nine lives while. I guess that would let you win. Okay unless you're total. Loser does giant up in the air backflips and front flips. He's never done in the in the first hour and fifteen minutes of the new. We didn't know he was so acrobatic. No in fact those moves would have come in handy earlier. Oh yeah so. And he is boobs beating the shit out of this worm click. He's punching one of those things in front of a used car dealership now. It's getting really confusing or all. The all the dead people are showing backup. It does look like the end of horizon a little bit. So would you say that That eddie albert is now at the end. He is fighting all the creatures that were created by the other characters fears. Would i say that. Yes i i. I don't know i mean i now. I'm so confused because everybody that shows back up with the rest of the crew is dead and mangled yes and just showing up to him and nightmarish vision. Yes very hellraiser. Very blue to face like filled up the entire screen. They say his name like a thousand times towards the end of this movie cabin which again sounds like a car. The new chevy cavern His face does kind of have a cab forward design to. He's doing jim cada. Yeah again it would have been handy earlier if he had done any of that. He just shot aaron marine. She turned into ray walston. I'm so convenient. It's completely off the rails at this point is just scenes of things. And ray walston is just spouting off some real cryptic bullshit. He says that your anger with me even know what that means but when jimmy starts choking him The look on her face out. She's terrified man. It's like she just came back from the coat table. Scott ray liotta is not gonna sing that either. I was already singing. I know you wanted me to sing it. But i'm not going to. I'm not going to give in nope. I'm totally confused. Every line of dialogue makes you question the line of dialogue drums front nowhere and goes to know where they they're not divulging any information nope it's cryptic put some little bit of makeup on ray walston to signify that he's dying he turned into electron-. Yeah his kind of tron. Like so eddie albert. Just kind of he shot something out of his chest around his groin area. Now if this was still the game from the beginning the old woman The old woman is eddie albert. I've solved it. We did it. We did it all my god. This is big. We're going to have to go public with this. We know that you guys have been wonder all the papers. I'm going to have to write the public. Appearances can handle this. Maybe i should add it all that out. Take it all away. Probably be best if we just edit all that to help keep to ourselves. That was the dumbest ending for any movie. I think i've ever seen. Yeah but i mean. It gave james cameron a career. I guess we could be happy about that. Yeah although they're making like four more avatar movies. So i don't know maybe maybe if he been allowed to fail i get it. It's avatar. it's like avatar. How is this like avatar. I don't know you know nothing to back at us. Wanted one shrew read anything you know we gotta do we gotta read the novelization of find out what it at with. The story actually was. What's the name of the of the book everything. I wanted to know about galaxy of terror. I learned in elementary school. I was thinking that anal pyramids. That's the erotic fan fiction they wrote. Which i'm going to get on big foot's there. I've got a lot of questions we've said i don't understand like three hundred times. No i mean both of us have time. I think i need to go watch over the top. Yeah decompress al. Fill so much all right well. That was galaxy of terror. I mean it was terrible. The galaxy of terrible. I think the forbidden world might not be as man. I don't even want to say that. I want to think that like the plot for forbidden world is way easier to understand. Well if it has a plot. I guess it would be easier on your standards. I think this movie had a plot. I mean it had a pretty easy plot to follow until they start throwing in all the weird mystical shit here on wikipedia under plot. Do you want me to even start. Is there a succinct way that you can just kind of know condensed forests. No they said that. The the one of the ships was called morgan. 'thus i thought that was the plan. It oh no no no. You're right that they send us ship to more gandalf's oh my god. How did you hear one thing right. One old woman name tree is identified as the controller of the game while the other whose head is obscured by glowing ball of red light turns out to be an all powerful mystic called the planet master. The to speak cryptically of things put into motion. And the master instructs ill var one of the military commanders to send a ship to more gandhi's. I feel like whoever wrote. This was like overheard his kid playing dungeons and dragons in the basement and was like i've got a project that has no ending. I think i'll just think i'll just use some of this. Crap is dumb. kids seem to like it. I bet that was happening a lot. Though like i watched a movie not too long ago called the ever. Seen the visitor. I think it's the one. I think the cover. Yeah that's what i'm thinking of the co- the cover art is the eyeball stretching like a piece of sinew or something like a bleeding piece of something. Anyway i watched it not too long ago. John huston is in that movie. K lance henriksen is also interesting it is like they crammed the plot of the omen. Okay khairi okay and like drug culture because there is a ton of just weird like when jefferson airplane decided to just be called starship like their videos from around that era. Did you know that the land was in the omen part to know. I think that is the one that i've watched the least i think i've seen the first one and the one with sam neill the most same here so the visitor was originally titled strategic dulum. Straight do the soul of a young girl with telecom power is becomes the prize in a fight between forces of god and the devil. Okay none of for you. Just read is a parent in the actually. That kind of makes me more mad hearing that after. Because i didn't get that addle. Sam peckinpah is in the phil really. There's a lot of slow motion stunts and the movie. A lot of breaking glass. And this looks bizarre. Oh it is. There's a bunch of bald headed kids Oh my god. I couldn't tell you why they're there. I've got to watch this immediately. Try it out. And you'll be angry as i was i guarantee it. The visitor just sounded like that guy from men's warehouse for a second. You're going to like what clothes i put on you. I like cigars. Well well i would say we did it. I mean we did it. We've got the whole movie through it so many questions. That are too dumb to answer. I think i need to start previewing these movies before i pick them Yeah that would help a lot. We were so close. I could have gone to. The private is would have been happy with that. Yeah it would have been torture for you know i. I like don knotts. Can i get an order of some of your garlic don knotts. I don't know about that at all. I love good. Tim conway and knowing that it's a corman movie. I would like to see that. I don't think. I knew that it was a corman film. Did not know. I mean there's probably a forty percent chance that any movie is good point. There are so many films. There's a nineteen fifty eight night of the blood beast. I've seen that. He reuses the same monster from Not at conquered the world. He he really got a lot of mileage out of this one suit. Teenage caveman yes. That's exactly what is the same awesome is the same year lot of the same actors. What is the wasp woman. I think they find like the Fountain of youth kind of thing. That's i think it has something to do with the hypothetical. Myths and stuff says the head of a major cosmetics company experiments on herself with a youth formula made from royal jelly extracted from wasps but the formulas side effects have deadly consequences. Yeah dun dun dun thank. We all knew that it would well from the box. I mean man. I feel wiped out. I feel like i need call my loved ones and then just go to sleep for a little while but this was our first corman movie was wasn't maybe i mean i'm sure we've had to trip over him. Yeah i think he is probably been involved in so yeah. I mean entertaining. You hesitated to say that. Do you think you could use that word to describe entertain and my ted talk over this film. I will try to squeeze the word entertaining into my speech yet but more than likely it'll just be out. Just be saying k y jelly a lot. Well let's follow this up next week with our double feature of corman with what are we watch it again. Forbidden world forbidden world. They're very similar that a low budget. I just remember thinking that there is something about forbidden world. That's just a little bit is a little more of a spark in that one. I couldn't tell you if the plot is anymore. You know. I can't promise you anything about it I will say that there are boobs boobs. There is a big slimy monster guy. Don't think there's maggot rape. Is there. one particular monster in this stalking Yeah very similar to another alien movie. That i won't mention it's called alien but hey fox harasses in it yeah. I can't wait to see him something. Well let's read it off in the distant future a federation marshall arise at of research lab on a remote planet. Let me start over or let me just quit quit. Know how are we gonna set it up somehow. Watch the movie guys. It's an hour and seventeen minutes long. It's a world it's forbidden. I'm pretty sure we can turn it into a three hour. Podcast out for sure in the distant future a better education marshall arrives at a research lab on a remote planet where genetic experiment has gotten loose and begins feeding on the dwindling scientific group. That last sentence made it sound. Like don knotts is in this. I would love it if he was in this. So like you said as fox harris whose michael bowen we've talked about michael bowen before he is Buck who likes to fuck from kill bill that you are correct is also in law. He's in a lot of quentin tarantino movies. He's He's in jackie brown. Yeah he's Partners with Michael keaton can think of his last night and This also has jesse vint who the hell is in. I have no idea. I don't know. I don't recognize a lot of people except for fox harris dawn dunlap. She's the heir to that a tennis ball fortune. That dunlap i don't know looks actually holding tennis ball. June chadwick. she was in the she was in. This is spinal tap okay. Maybe she was janine pettibone. So next week. Forbidden world for corman double feature. It's on amazon prime. Yes it also might be on youtube. Well do you want to you. Want to add in our normal. Bs go right ahead to just follow us on social media and go to our bison t shirts you you can pick up our commemorative Mega movie mania monster. Movie t shirt. I created it. And i made it intentionally made it sound odd because we stumbled over so many times but now i can't even remember what it says. Yeah that's like that so it looks like you can watch forbidden world onto b. o. k. Like you said it's on amazon prime so you can definitely check it out you. There's a still of Your girl in a nice little ninety looking at some slime filled table. That i can tell there's a foot i can see a human foot and the rest of the table is just slimy and oregon's yeah well that's kind of i mean these movies. It's they're going to have slime they're going to have organs i This actually is a good score. 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Dark Universe Reborn, Halloween Kills Teaser, and the Future of Filmhaus! - Movie Podcast

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Dark Universe Reborn, Halloween Kills Teaser, and the Future of Filmhaus! - Movie Podcast

"However welcome to another week of Film House. This week's guests include James Williams. How you guys doing? Great and okay, where are you going to lease? Term is fine isn't quick crooked. There we go listen. I have crooked spine. Syndrome is the only problem. Yeah, when we share, this monitors every half like. You guys are my. That's where my favorite guests this week. Talking about the dark universe making a comeback Halloween and a little bit of a house cleaning and talking about sort of the future, a film house where it's going much like that film with all the time traveling where a young Martic fly goes to meet his mother. I forget the name of it. That's the one that's. Always love frightening first news story. I if we could just talk about frighteners. Every week I'd be okay with that. So, yeah, after this year is invisible man. Now is coming the all new movie with Ryan Gosling, who will be the Wolfman? Impede this little I'll read this blurb. This comes from deadline. Universal pitchers has set its Wolfman project on a fast track to production. Lay Lee went ramle. L.! went out in the Australian. heart-throb is negotiating to direct Ryan Gosling in the lead role and Jason Blum's. Blum House has boarded to a producer of Said gosling blame. House has teamed up with actually has worked with one L. and Elizabeth Moss indivisible man, which cost seven. Million from their their entire budget, which is crazy and it was considered a win since movie made one hundred twenty four million dollars, only movie event money. Has Anyone been any more successful at this than Jason Blum? I would say maybe. What. What's his name Atlanta atlanta-based film producer, Tyler Perry Tyler Perry Tyler. Perry Tyler Perry's definitely good one. Yeah, for sure. Yeah but Yeah did good on them for figuring out that. Horror movies can be cheap ineffective and make a lot of money so this comes from the same writer director. WHO DID He comes actually if you remember I, think his first big movie was saw. but he has since done this man upgrade those sorts fund films. He'll be writing a treatment for it and then which is based on the nineteen, forty, one classic, then Jason Blob partner Lauren shocker blom his wife and Rebecca Angelo from Netflix's orange new black. We'll be writing the script some interesting with with these things set in motion. The question is is the dark universe back. I mean I think technically it is, this is this is interesting. Because universal has tried to do the dark universe so many times they're like we can only trust ourselves, but now it's like well maybe. You were the one ruining dark universe I. Don't think it's back in the form that they attempted which was making an actual universe. It looks like the invisible man's spurned interest. The successive of course has started the conversation again. I know Jason. Blum House has been interviewed about whether he would want to spearhead and kind of be the. Hall. You. Know Paul Harry Tyler Perry. Who Am I. Thinking does marble. Brain. Kevin. Kevin by what he would, he be the Kevin of the universe, and he hasn't been asked and he doesn't know that he will be apparently given the interview that I read, but I do think he kind of be the guy to do it. There are a bunch of other of these projects in production or stages of it to like Elizabeth banks is developing in an invisible woman. Project right now. Possibly I don't know and then James. One is attached to produce Frankenstein. So so, there are all these dark universe balls in the air juggling. Once again you know, ask they they cannot, they cannot be A. They cannot be tamed, but it. It's going to happen whether we like it or not. That's the important thing to remember about the dark universe. You cannot stop it. Okay, they it's it's like fighting back and evil a dark evil it will rise eventually, and it doesn't matter what you do. You can delay it sure it's like. Judgment Day you can delay it, but you cannot stop and it will happen. It's inevitable and it doesn't matter if if Jason Blom is the one doing it, or and also. Here's the thing to we already know. Universal is stupid about this and how? They think that this is somehow that they have so little. And so little. They think this could possibly reach the caliber of like. Comic, book, Lore, Superhero fandom and stuff like that. They have so little that they are so invested in us, even if this, the invisible man movie and the Wolfman movie by blood, House have nothing to do with one another unit. Someone at universal will say Wolf Man was a success. Invisible man was success. Let's find a way to make them have wanted to do well i. read recently, and I didn't I didn't even know this. When we were in the throes of the dark universe reboot, but that the linking. Factor between all those universe movies was supposed to be Russell Crowe as the he was supposed to pop up across. Yeah, he was the Nick Fury Yeah. That's why. That's why that's why the second half I mean the whole movie. The mummy is all bad, but like the second half is so weird because it just jumps to this world where Russell Crowe runs this organization that has all this stuff and the book from the first mummies in it. You know like like it's all messed up broken. No one had any clear vision, but it seemed to imply that Russell. Crowe was going to be the nick fury of this franchise and I didn't know it or I just blocked it out well, that's when you left. Remember you did not make it through the whole movie, So maybe you missed the explanation. He called Tom Cruise a young man. Well also in that movie, they kind of pull the SWITCHEROO. Because we thought the mummy was going to be the the female leader for ambushes atomic blonde, but we thought she was going to be the mummy, but in fact. It was more like Tom. Cruise was the mummy. He got mummy powers at the end of the movie. Spoilers I saved you four bucks on everyone saw. Down like a wolf, sorry, sorry. Yeah and then an invisible man, it's mostly revealed that the man is on invisible. He has a suit that makes him invisible. So anyone can beat the invisible man or invisible woman if they want to, so seems like you're keeping. That was the. Is. Basically the plot of that movie, but yeah. That invisible man movie is I believe it's not even connected or tied in or related in any way to the Elizabeth banks when that's being developed for invisible woman so now like I said Yeah. It's just all these weird orbs in the area, the monsters I think this is kind of like. Just what happens when you have these properties like when one company like Disney owns these marvel characters. And that's the only version of them that you can really get except unless it's like avengers, kids like, but universal seems like it's just open season on whenever there's no rhyme or reason or plan or central. Orchestration to it. Yeah Yeah I. Guess GotTa make that mummy money back because they spent so much getting ready and I'm sure Johnny Depp Harvey Artem Bardem and Everyone else involved. was paid something to show that day for that photo that actually there in the same room. I am genuinely curious where. They stay for sure signed contracts that maybe not have had full guarantees at bay, probably got paid more money than we could ever possibly imagine to not be in the same room with each other to take a photograph which I, they is pretty funny. You Guys Google Hall fee dark army. Sherve, what is this? I'm not even really sure. This universal Montale. Fi, you've monster movie. Okay This is policy by the way who was responsible for movies like spy and the most recent ghostbusters. Not The newer one. That's coming out soon. The second attempts are the first attempt at a reboot. Also worked on a show called other space, which is supposed to be. Streaming. On Yahoo it failed. It's actually a really good show. Up Yeah Yeah I, it that's that's coming into That's GONNA be for Free Pretty Soon I just read. I bought I bought in like Amazon. I watched on Yahoo. Believe it or not. I know it was weird. Darker what is this? I think it's going to be a monster movie. you close the window because he was killing Internet. I'll read I. Hear from him. He said I said I wrote a draft thoughts from the studio, and now I'm in the middle on a rewrite on that right now so hopefully that'll be my next movie. If it's not, it'll be the one after or whatever I do next, but yeah, I'm excited to do it. It's just you want to get it right. Okay, so so it's a universal project, is he? Didn't isn't dark. Army Monster Squad. No, why wouldn't you lean on the branding of monster squad? If YOU'RE GONNA? No, I'm not saying it's monstrous by. The idea of Vangelis Yeah. Yeah it would combine the original characters with the iconic universal monsters. Okay, we're. Here's my my big beef here. We always talk about the heavy hitters. Right mummy, invisible man Wolf Dan. I guess we're doing Frankenstein, Jekyll, Jekyll and Hyde. Where's the creature from the Black Lagoon Yeah. Creature from the lagoon. If we're doing the marvel comparison, creature from the black lagoon is like a doctor strange. Like a second tier, a second tier wouldn't think that it would work until you see at work kind of situation. Right so you would. You would have to lead off with your captain America's your Frankenstein's monster. The land runners what? You need the land. The peop- The people who are on land. Oh, I mean I wasn't even thinking that I was just thinking. In terms of legacy of some of these stories, you know like Dracula and Frankenstein's monster whether or not they've been getting big movies I mean they have been been featured movies a lot. There is basically the creature from the Black Lagoon and then what? That's it read art. We already decided a certain point. Just the shit that is in water that exists in real life is scarier. You know like the creature from the Black Lagoon just wanted to bang that lady and didn't realize that she didn't have gills and dragging down was going to kill her so like. I'm sorry, but. A giant fish that's the size of a mack truck that is mostly not is scarier than the creature from the Black Lagoon, so I think that's part of the reason. Is the the creature never really took off? But that's part of it is you have the clay that you can shape whatever you want with the? AGAIN You can just yeah I. Mean Event It is yeah, you can cause. There's there's no expectations for it. Which is the template? Ray and that's there's not much you can do with that. He has to be near water, otherwise guy. So on killer cross. Cutting your argument necessarily about. Something we need to see or could it could hold the attention of a movie going audience for ninety minutes, but Adam your big Ri- Gauze Fan Right. I do I. Do very much like Ryan Gosling. A I think he is a more subdued actor I think. He could actually pull off a pretty good Wolfman so well compared. Benicio Del Toro your You would rather have GAAS Wolfman. Is that what you're saying? Well that beneath L. Del Toro was the first of the reboots, and then it was supposed to be Havi. Are you're on, hold on? Wait way wait. The first of the reboots Jack Nicholson. Don't forget Wolf I. Five Wolves Chaskalson which I. Honestly think would be really cool. We Bring Back Jack. Bring in. It's on the poster. It says Jacks back. He comes back reprise his role as as wolf from Wolfman from Wolf and and then he, but then he's the one love interest in day. Yes. Paper, but yeah, we'll make he by excrete Bites Ryan Gosling and then it turns out that at the end this has been happening for generations right, and then we get to see all of the popular all the Wolfman. It's Kinda like in. What we do in the shadows, the TV series where pulls back in. It realizes like this isn't just a remake of the movie. The movie characters are in this world right and so you go to the sing rig he jack brings them to council wolves. And in the in the council he meets. Benicio Del Toro. He meets a gosling. Will he? This golf This has got Gaza Jack. Jack is his mentor. John McCain thinking. Is Very expensive proxy also meet Anthony Hopkins. Fits into this because, isn't he? The Wolf Hunter though he's a dad. Original Wolf! Did you even watch both men night? Thorough. It's great. Great. So so you get that. Are you also get Rico? Wolfman from monster squad with that while also don't don't forget Tom Ever Scott from American Werewolf in Paris of course of course from Paris. From Paris. You get him in there and you get longer, you could. Even you can throw. You could throw whoever. Michael J. Fox Teen Wolf is in there every wolf that we've ever seen come on screen snow. He's a roof now. What about get? You about David. David who played the original main character in American World Wolf in London. We found out that he is the mentor. Tom Scott's character of American in Paris. Why are they have mentors? Now. Like It's like a big brother you know. Okay it's hard to. All of that in the movie we got it all on the movie, okay. This movie ballooned from eight million dollars to. Think about one hundred and fifty, two million, because Jack, Nicholson's yeah. I'm only gonNA. Do you can be my wolf care again. I got was actually expensive you for some reason. Of of the dark army, the invisible woman the Wolfman Frankenstein. Which one do you guys have? Hope, for see potential in. I'm going hard. Wolfman I feel like that's always a better story than any of those other stories. This a man who can't the full moon happens. He knows what's what he's cursed with, but he can't do anything to stop it. The people around him sympathize with them, but that ended up being weaknesses, and ultimately like if you do a Wolfman story that feels like a good tragedy I think it's a really good story. I mean I think literary. Literary caliber of the Frankenstein story is really good, but no one ever focuses on the most interesting part, which is the scientist, the actual Dr Frankenstein dangerous scared of lumbering monster. WHO's no different than Zombie? In most cases right? Yeah I mean there was the nineties Mary Shelley's Frankenstein with Julia. Roberts. Robert. It was Robert Deniro yeah, so we. Carter was she in a yeah, I? Mean you bring back Robert Deniro? He's mentoring a young. Flies every. On the poster says Jacks Bat. Well I. Think we're all very excited for the darkness. I'm. You didn't tell me was hopeful for. Frankenstein I really enjoyed that ninety s Frankenstein movie and I think if you do a good Mary Shelley Frankenstein, and did what James is saying. Focus on the really interesting things, the the monster or the creature is interesting, but the scientists can be made more interesting actual doctor. FATE'S I agree. I. Love that book I think it's I don't. Magazine. Masterpiece, but what do you think this? Is it worth reading? For me like dark army anything that presents itself the saying this is on Samba and we're getting the game back together. Except one of the gang, that's what I love about forgetting the gag. because. I'm actually He's produced. One is producing Frankenstein. Which means that my hype levels are medium. If he was directing, it might, hype would be sky high like no questions asked you know. Shoot it in my veins, but A. Grammy for me. Okay well I look forward to seeing it at a drive in like I saw invisible man. It should be exciting at some point in the future. We're GONNA talk about the all new Halloween. Coming not too soon, but first a quick word from our sponsor guys losing your hair is no fun, and it's one of those things that some of us just have to go. Through sixty six percent of all men start to lose their hair round age thirty five. In what you notice well, sometimes, it can be too late. Thankfully, living that far off distant future of two thousand twenty, so got you covered for hymns, dot com. It's a one stop shop for hair loss skin, care, sexual wellness for men, hymns is helping guys be the best version of themselves with licensed medical providers. FDA approved products to help treat hair loss ends connects you to licensed. 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It was announced a new thirty five second teaser where Jamie Lee Curtis is in the back of a car. Screaming led him burn. Let it burn. This is a direct. Follow up to two thousand eighteen Halloween, which I did not see, but you guys did. it. Yeah. I thought it was just okay. Some people loved it and it did really really well I thought it was just okay there were. It felt like I was watching. Half of a movie. There's a lot missing from stuff one character that just kind of disappears. The whole film I wouldn't say it's super memorable. It's no Halloween H, two which. Only. Only appreciates age. Not for the right reasons, but I mean any opportunity to watch Jamie Lee Curtis. I'm interested in and I do love her embracing the hell continuing to embrace the Halloween franchise, even as far as removed as it's gotten. It's been establishing her career. She Still Kinda like yeah, I'm into it. I love that if there's if there's one thing the I mean, you don't need the Halloween franchise to prove it, but in this is kind of a completely different topic, but it's kind of somewhat. It's related. There's this in Hollywood. It's a very real thing that women age outweigh faster and like women beyond a certain age like sorry, they just they're just not worth seeing onscreen you know despite their charisma or their talent, or all those things they either have to play old women supporting characters. They can't be the focal point and a lot of it and I think the coolest thing about the Halloween reboot with. It is Jamie Lee. Curtis, who is not old by any means she's. She's still young in the humanities scheme of things right but. She's so bad ass and compelling in that movie like there's no reason that we shouldn't be seeing more films with people in her age group. You know leading these things like it didn't. It doesn't affect your enjoyment of it at all. In fact, the experience that she brought to that role and the investment, she had an franchise I. Think is probably one of the best things about it and and so for that Sake I love seeing people like Jamie. Lee Curtis and others like. Continuing to be in these movies that if this was? Know, the nineties have rebooted with a much younger caste or something like every five years for fear of having someone in the cast that was more than like older than twenty site. Take like a Halloween H.. Two O. Keep kind of the attempt right? Yeah, took position, Jamie, Lee Curtis I guess she's still a matriarch figure in this that at least keeps her bad ass. Yeah, well, that's the thing H.. Two O., which is garbage by the way no offense. There's one point in h shoe where two people are walking through a kitchen in the dark and then the movie. A scary sound like in the soundtrack and they get scared except there's nothing that happened in the kitchen that caused that noise. They're scared of the soundtrack of the movie. It's just like someone was looking, and they said it's time for a scare. But but yeah, so she even in that one was like okay. What's their this? Her? Michael Mike going back and forth, but it seemed like they were also thinking, but what if we get this? This young cool kids to be the next phase of things the new generation Gina. Helming this. Dr I'm sorry. You cut out there what? Do you know who is helming this one? this is the I believe. This is the same crew who worked on Halloween. Two Thousand Eighteen Halloween but I did want to throw this out there. Apparently, there was a screening that happened earlier this year. They had a lot of positive buzz, and there was a comment that from read it from user. movies are all right. WHO SAYS DAMNED? The rumors look to be true. Within thirty seconds. There was pure chaos in that single scene and the people who claim to have seen the screening, said the entire movies, intense and chaotic like that, so yeah, it looks like the movie that you guys talked about the twenty eighteen didn't exactly hit the mark. went through a little bit of a rework phase and they're just picking it. It's almost like previous Halloween movies where the first one where you know, it takes about an hour before there's any real action or any I mean. It's also not a very violent movie. When you really look at it, it's more suspenseful, but I. Apparently this is going to just be a nonstop like Michael Myers go Lino! Sounds like the firemen are going to rescue him, and then he's just GonNa tear the town apart which that sounds glance fun. Because I remember for the twenty eighteen one. It was getting a lot of great bus It's getting really overwhelmingly positive buzz and then I. Just Kinda felt like it was. It was a fine time. I keep forgetting that Danny McBride wrote and like. The twenty thousand one in this one, which is just so weird, but I guess like. You know, make sense you know. Tom Hanks wrote. Larry Crowne. OFF The case. Writer no less. Typewriters out on on the subject. Ages. The Tony Todd Character Candy. Man is posted. It set to come out and this year September. This is being redone written by Jordan Peele. Yeah. They brought back the original actor which that was that was very nice of them. Very cool so. Can't candyman without candyman. That's like I honestly like it's weird. Because as much as I love the nightmare on Elm street franchise I never saw the one with What's his face from watchmen check. Though, Yeah Yeah I'm James James something or three names, Hey! Jackie Jamesy Jane. Haley! Haley, but not to me. Robert England, like as long as Robert. England would WANNA do Freddy. Krueger read wanting to do it. And I got. You want a different take on the character from a different actor. It does lend itself the obviously. We saw that with it right where you get this incredible new performance, but i Robert England to me like that. That's the the birds skin on his face might as well be Robert Englund. Thank you. I appreciate that. I did want to just mentioned that I got a couple of notes saying it's sad to hear that trailer. That little teaser look pretty damn good. It's obviously shore, and it can't really. You know. Show off too much of this entire movie, but got me pretty buzzed especially since the Early has some hype behind it. But how do you guys feel about that, would you? Is it you think it's? Better to wait for when you can actually see this in a crowded theater, instead of like. Waiting. Just watching a digital release. Yeah, I mean I don I. Don't have to be a movie studio accountant so I don't have to figure out. Does numbers so most of the time with almost every single movie? That's getting delayed I'm like. If it were me. You can for me as just sitting on my couch I'm totally fine with you. Having released it on digital, and they probably would have rented it by now or something like that, but I get that doesn't that financial pathway doesn't recoup? They want it to the way they wanted to I. Think this is an interesting situation, because it's not like they can Lake say things are better movie. Theaters are open around December or Christmas time. It's not like they can release Halloween men. They basically have won three. Three Week Window in which they can release this film every single year, so it does kind of suck that they have to make this choice to just push it one whole year when it doesn't probably need that much time, I would definitely want to see this theater. Especially you get a good good audience, but this type of movie type of movie in your shout nuts necessarily shouted your role, then shown the whole time I'll never like one of my favorite horror movie going experiences when I went with some of my. Girlfriends to scream for and everyone in theater. Really had the had the same mindset going into that we were all like. Don't go in there. What do you do like dumb? Just so much fun! And everybody was just sort of into it in that way, and I think that these this would be less everyone except for Adam who also in theaters just hoping to be up to watch movie? In the darker Halloween and that's. That's my stressor. Is Someone whip their phone now or start talking to their friend or pull out a bag of chips? It's always something but then. It was just Fine Raucous Fun Movie Theater Time Yeah. I was going to say though on a similar level. Do you feel like you still enjoyed something like Hamilton? Even though you get an extra seven hundred dollars in your pocket. And you didn't have to watch it from like a weird awkward. Angle, I still feel like I enjoyed that experience, so maybe you don't need to be theater. Enjoy, yeah I I do think that. Filming live. Theater is as maybe a little different than releasing a movie. I think I think our home setups are like we've been watching Netflix's and things, and and with sound systems and ATV's and even before HDTV's I was never like a kid watching things on HBO going Terminator. Two sucks because look how small it is in four by three like I think movies translate a little bit better than live theater, but I do appreciate that it makes it more accessible. To people I think it makes it more accessible to people, but then I think you're also more likely to see what I think I saw on my personal social media time line, which is a lot of people talking about how Hamilton is overrated, and and trash and people have bad taste for liking it. And why do they settle for things that aren't this good or musicals in general suck like? Because, I do think that being in the room while the person is performing that you know when you have a dvd digs do this big musical number landing, all of the steps and singing all the notes perfectly, and you're realizing you're in the room, so you understand that they didn't have a second chance. There was no takes. There were no cuts like kind of experience. Experience. I do think that is a different kind of experience. That's kind of harder to replicate I think if you have already seen Hamilton and then you see it in on Disney plus Oh. Yeah, like it really appreciate it more, but if you haven't seen it like I hadn't seen it. This is my first experience. I feel like you're like. Oh, I do still wish. That there had been an opportunity to go whether it's a more affordable one or not. Every single theater being closed down. That that there was an opportunity to be in the room with that because I do think it's different. There is some fun facts about a about Hamilton. that. The entire movie that they have on Disney plus is based on three separate recordings to live, and then one was done without an audience, so they can get the close ups, which I thought was kind of interesting. You're seeing a cut of two different, two two and a half different shows. But I think that's that's how most stand up is done, too. I think a lot of standup will specials will be like we're going to record for two nights and then that way we'll have. Will have the two things I. Just know when I saw John Leguizamo. Live on off Broadway or whatever when I was very young for his freak One man show we were there were they were recording the HBO special, and it was the second night of the recording, and they were going to do three nights, so they come to my dad's tickets. I just know. I saw David Copperfield when I was very young he. He made it snow inside the theatre, but only for the first four rows. Yeah, except he had a whole team of people doing that, John All the snow he did was he had to do by himself he done when he talked about his deaf uncle and the sign for for bullshit. He had to do that by himself. Jesus I, so. I saw the Mike Tyson one man show. That was pretty good. Talked about about the timing of was kicked Brad Pitt's ass. Betty did. So. That's about for Halloween in Hamilton Talk. Both both things. Currently excited for and one that I'll probably go back and watch again. You determine which one I'm talking about. And then to. We're GONNA WE'RE GONNA. Talk some business moving up next curtain back a little bit. If you will, but first a quick word from our sponsor, ordering online and cooking from home, today is more important than ever, and that's why we are sponsored today by hellofresh hellofresh offers a variety of recipes to choose from each week to help you break out of that. 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All sorts of entertainment and We just thought it'd be Kinda cool to do weekly podcasts where we just kind of have fun talking about it. and well times have changed a little bit, and we still love doing the show, but we've heard the feedback and we WANNA. Do Right by the audience so right now the show lacks any real coherent voice or structure, which is fine, but we already have podcast like that, and it's called dude soup, so we're actually going to try to change some things up moving forward trying to think a little news so starting next week. We're going to debut new format. For the show, it's going to be much more informed and condensed. Lot different than what you're used to. If you've ever seen one of the many like Youtube video essays out there, you kind of know where it's going. But Yeah James and I kind of. We talked about this. Months ago before quarantine happening fall, yeah, I mean yeah way before the ball started rolling on this before the work from home, stuff started happening two thousand nineteen, but yeah, this is a long long long discussion. Yeah. We sort of talked about. How could we obviously we can't keep up that sort of format on the week to week basis at least not right away. You need a higher up for that sort of stuff so right now we're teaming up with the head writer from Weiss crack someone who a people we've collaborated with before. Love those guys. His name is Mike Luxembourg. Fantastic guy and we're doing a in-depth infotainment piece on just one subject. We don't have to say what it is. That's up to you guys if you think it's worth. Save it save it. Wanted to. We should talk about and get people excited for it and I can talk. We can talk around. It will say I'll give you a couple of heads. It's it's it's a person, and it is something that is very near, and dear to funhouse and fun houses history. So yeah, keep it there. Keep it there. Yeah, so like we're basically doing a depth video essay, an infotainment breakdown and kind of thesis on this this performer in their career history, and what makes them why they were so good and titanic, and their personnel has been in much of Funhouse Lore and I take on house connection to, and maybe at times we've shortchanged in ways, and this is a little bit of a make good in that sense. Let's say A. Even if someone is the target of a joke, why were they the one worst targeting in the first place? Not It's not always supposed to be a take down of that person, sometimes because that person is such a phenomenon culturally that it's a touchtone that you can use the you mentioned. This person again made potentially from titanic. Police and I'm not saying it is I'm not saying it is, but I'm also not saying it isn't when you describe this person or people immediately know who you're talking about. Attributes of that person whether or not they ran through titanic holding a gun. While thinking like these types of things are the things that are like synonymous, so it's really easy to use them. For protesting this format with this video to see if you guys like it, we I enjoyed. yeah, I think it's. I think it's great I think it's fun I mean. Ultimately the whole channel of funhouse should be things that we put out that we think are actually entertaining to watch right and sometimes podcasts. I mean there's a whole bunch of meat and potatoes involved, but like sometimes it podcast. It's fun for us to talk about things. That's why we wanted to do film podcasts. PODCASTS in the first place we'd like to talk about film and Television, and we spend fairmount of our free time, maybe as much, if not more than playing video games, probably for sure, at least the three of us spend more time watching movies and TV playing video games, so we enjoy talking about it, but we also want to make sure that the show is something that people enjoy watching. And so so we kind of went back to the drawing board and said what is that and I think in like in the state of the world and the way that the movie industry is right now. There's not a whole lot of new stuff to talk about minus week to week. And talking to Mike from Weiss crack to We don't WanNA. Just do a kind of copy. Paste of what they do. I think watching their channel is fantastic. They always take a very i. They are the much smarter. Cousin to us everything they do always. Related back to philosophy and why it matters, and why it makes sense in the greater scheme of the world hours is a lot more. It's kind of pure entertainment and I think it was on bunny about Mike on it because it was, it was something that was so different from what they've worked on before, but we're going to try to have him on the podcast to sort of talk about as well. Yep! Yeah, so so you'll get to see basically the finished product of what we're what we're called the test right? Should we just call the test episode test? That Next week you'll get to see kind of what that not what kind of what? That looks like what it is Adam edited, so it's got like whacky Adam Kovac edits definitely. Coping style I mean this is this is how I I mean I've basically. Done my entire career, which is like I will always do the first one. I'll set the template and spend a lot of time on it, but then ideally in the future goes. Oh, you could always look back and go. This is the style of the show, and if you ever need like a style guide, you look at that and go. Oh, okay I get it now and you find that through the edit and through the process and we all worked on it, we all. Contributed micheals writer. Subject and then also changing. The script working with him as I co riders and then on personal. Does yeah. I mean so I also just kind of give you like of rundown of how format it is for this first episode of James Going back and forth on a topic, but we do stop and have some casual banter, but overall. It's much tighter cut. It's not as you know free form as this podcast you're used to and in our current discussion. Disorder podcast isn't going away. It's just once a month. In a perfect world, we would like to do one of these tighter more infotainment style podcasts. And I think part of it, too. Is were interested in The audience his feedback on that right. So what we were kind of potentially. A test episode, don't expect this to keep rolling out month after month. We don't have that in place yet, but if the if it does well enough in people like it, and they wanna see more, and we can figure out how to make that happen. Then something we'd like to do is use this podcast as kind of an ongoing discussion of how that bigger video is going right so yeah, so one week we discussed the. The News and trailers, or it's the things that we normally talk about on film house the discussion, maybe a battle film, battle, Royale, or something, or who knows perfect film battle Royale, and then we can, but then from that point we can also use part of that podcast discussion to pitch ideas for what we think would be a good top I think a great example also be in today's episode. We talked about the dark universe. and. What we thought fun. Wolfman me look like or we talked about the history of the dark universe doing something that's more researched. Raises Questions, answers, questions, and format like that while still entertaining banter. editing techniques to it doing something like that kind of like. Is a little bit more deliverable to you in a twenty minute at it I think would be really cool to do Shadia twos that every month is sort of like. That's our topic, and so after that first week say repick. The? Movie Congo. And how for some reason James and I remember the monkees, having lasers and other. But never happened and so then on the next week it would be sort of like the previous week we talk about news those sorts of things for the first half, but then we bring up the subject sort of the suffolk been researching also how the script coming along things that we've discovered along the way, and then shortly after the time we would already be recording so now we have additional two weeks just work. Work on this episode until it airs at the end of the month, so and the thing is that there's five plus years of funhouse where there has been so many movie discussions that have happened questions that have been raised to not found answers for different icons of the industry that we've that we've lampooned or mocked and we've been. We've never dealt deeper to say we. Why is this person a lot of those? Will come to fruition in this. Format absolutely that that's that that is sort of our I think our hope and dream of how film house can evolve and grow and become something a bit more focused. And have have more of a place on our channel and makes sense for the audiences, but it kind of all that really comes down to is this first episode? Does well or at least gets enough of a positive reception that we can in it much. This is our dark universe basically. God this is. This is our man. Yeah, we're going to see football. Yeah, this, we've! We've obviously we've tried a lot of different things with funhouse switching hosts. Trying to format shooting different places, but ultimately it's it always comes back to. We just kind of want to talk about the things that we care about and continue to do that so. Yeah I. Just want to put that out there and. I hope you guys enjoy it. I had a lot of fun working on fantastic I the visual jokes that are in it and the photo shops and animations are. 'cause it plays as something you could put in your pocket and listen to, but then if you watch it, you're going to get even more. Pressure on it. And then, and then we still have to kind of figure out what the Audio version of that looks like for the listeners like do upload. Cut Down or do we do like a supplemental one on top of that. That's audio only that sorta talks about what went into the edit in the final product, but we don't know yet still working on that, but right now I just want to be I always liked being transparent with the audience and talking about what we've been talking about and I feel like enough time has passed now. Obviously we're. We're GONNA. Actually do this thing that we can talk about it because it is becoming a reality. Used to it. Now. I hope we start. But yet that's about it next week to say yeah tune in next week. Let people know. That next week won't just be. Your standard fell mouse. It's GONNA be. It's GONNA resemble I would say it's going to be if you're enjoy film, but you prefer a fun house like say what a Gte gameplay kind of looks like you know like. What is that and then imagine if instead of just sitting down and going? What are we gonNA talk about, and then it becomes a conversation about X. imagine if we got together researched. Compiled our thoughts worked with worked with experts to format our thoughts, and then put it through the fun house grinder. It's GonNa be insane. Not Saying well. We wouldn't tell you if it was. Let's I. I can say that. The subject in which we're talking about did exist at the same time as Billy Zane. That's all I can really? Narrow down. Elise aim it just might be. This is a shock to you. His aim but I'm not gonNA say that it is because I might be lying, but if I said it wasn't. That's also maybe a lie to well I'm excited. I'm very excited for everyone to see our fun little episode next week. If you like it obviously, and he likes podcasts as always tell a friend. To a loved one or someone you just met on the street. It's always shorts. If you don't like this podcast to your words. Yeah. That's a good idea. James I already did the bit where we said. Don't tell anyone about it, but that didn't work the show on the popular weird. Burden. But that brings to an end of our show today. 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Streaming In Place: Lodge 49 S01E07

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Streaming In Place: Lodge 49 S01E07

"Welcome to the television streaming and forty nine hello america to streaming in place. I'm not elson shoemaker. what's happening. Listeners is on deadline so we will hear from her in a little bit. But right now. I'm going to kick off our beginning of week thirty six of streaming and plays and thank you to w for asking that we continue the week update as we just like slowly march towards the end of twenty two twenty like fair enough. I respect it. We'll keep doing that just for you because like yeah i feel you. I feel you on that this this week. We're gonna be talking about today. We're gonna be talking about episode seven the solemn duty of the squire Wednesday we talked about eight But there's a lot. There's so much to talk about in this episode. And i wanna leave the big stuff for alison So we're gonna kick off with some of the small stuff Which for me. I'm curious if you had the same experience. I did but i don't remember if you watch. Parenthood did you parenthood. I watched a little bit of parenthood in the first season. I just dropped out. Do you remember parenthood ended. Did you hear about that or no. I don't even. I'm sure. I heard about it but i don't remember well. There is a celebratory game of baseball to honor the life and legacy of a major character who who had passed in the last episode. That's how the never cautious. That's how the show ends and so when we get our baseball celebratory game baseball for larry. I was immediately reminded of parenthood. Nhl parenthood Was like three years before this. Yes something like that to three years. So i'm curious. If i was the only one making that connection. It's very possible that i'm like the person who watched launch forty nine and all the parenthood closely enough to make that overlap. But i mean. I just expected larry to wander out from the cornfields. That's house play. Catch some it would be on track right. That would be you know. Especially if you like numb fine. I got better. Like with gabon's good day. More that larry keeps going. I thought it was a lovely waited to to show the energy of the lodge and of ernie but also the feels appropriate to everybody in relation to larry. That was really lovely. What did you think of their You know in lieu of funeral there. Event for larry. No i think the events great. And i think that the i think that having a celebratory thing why what they do here with the baseball game does a lot to also make the eventual. Reveal of everything that larry's been doing with the bucks hit a lot harder than if you've done like a funeral i feel like So i think that doing a commemorative based commemorative softball game with the with the the nonleague the nonleague sanctioned game wrote this doesn't count Was just a good way to do that. And so yeah and plus. We'd already had a funeral already. The season doing another one might have felt repetitive. So i think this was a smart play From the show to do it like that and you get you get some good visual gags. She gets scott just being real weird again. He's just the worst just like why. Why do you wanna hit that old man. I don't care that he's crowding play. Don't hit the old man. So i it's it's really good and like you said they really lets the energy of the lodge shine before we find out what we all kind of probably down suspected as audience members that all of this is very bad and hey turns out to be much worse. It's just really. It's very very warm. It's very specific. In a way that funeral service would not have been I hadn't even thought of like obviously we had the memorial service so that you very recently. So that would not work. Unless they want us to really drawn parallels but highlighting the community and the like even just through like this connection to this other group. This other team like they. There's an identity of the lodge in the their larger long beach community. That now when you get all these revelations that's all going away it's not just over the place that we've hung out that the buildings kind of interesting cooling weird with secret rooms everything. It's also like this thing that they do frequently enough that they have a standing baseball team that they have like interleague rivalry. It's very a much more hits a lot harder so specific thing than just like oh. I won't have this cool place that we can hang out. We can just go to pick a bar go to that bar instead I think that's a great point. That idea of the community is really important especially given the rest of the stuff about substitute which is like duds big. Epiphany that he can just bring all the orbis former orbis employees to the lodge to bring back the golden age that like ogle's ages probably didn't exist in the same way that we think about it as existing like yes. Sure the membership numbers are really high. Maybe by was it really like a golden age just because there were a lot of people there oh debate song protector rate saverin protector. Sorry no definitely not a day could been nickeled. The yeah the orbis thing. I'm very like i'm puzzled on that. Because like what are they doing other than just hanging today. Have nothing else to do. They need to like go. Get a different job in sleep in order to like. I'm very puzzled about it. In the moment when i'm watching it i don't care but like stepping back from it. It's it's very strange to me. You also the sense that like this is just the latest of many downsizings loss of opportunity jobs in this community that has happened so without that kind of stability there thinking joined the legitimate and then they wanna do then that would be great but they need jobs to be able to stay there and not have to like move or gets you know find seek other opportunities and seen orbis obviously closing. We've seen the newspaper downsizing many opportunities in the in the community So i i guess. I'm very curious about what's going to happen with that. Because i feel like there's another platform that needs to happen in the next couple of sets. Sure and i think that makes sense. I think it's just a these former orbis employee's see your chance to just kind of let off some steam. And this is how they're doing it. They formed their own sort of wafts. Slash off de facto parabola group. That is now just destroying property that's gonna get shipped off for parts anyway. So why don't we just make some tribute shays to yourselves and really just let off steam. Which i think is great. It's a lot of fun. Like watching watching the and bob drive through and dodge stuff on the cards just delightful and set a new record. That's also that's a big one right there. Yeah i appreciate. That can't find that room again though. Which is great like this beautiful. If it's even they're right that right point with the magical realism or not Of the show definitely the also really enjoy that the one other line cook is there the. Oh he's cool. he's good. I've been him. he's it's all good and if they can bring that energy if done would you know gets the time the runway he would need to bring that energy to the lodge would be huge for that. But don't think that anybody's looking even if without the too high. If you waive the two hundred dollars joining fee the anybody is looking to take on the the mysticism and the baggage. That comes with the lodge. So we'll see. I don't know the the other means we can bags. They're thing that we can start Diving in with is is avery. I was not anticipating some of that market. Says i like how small everything is with. The line cooks showing somewhere else completely unrelated and yeah absolutely. It gives that such a stronger sense of community is also just great for the tv show with the Efficiency of characters. I what it a character com economy address. I knew i had that. Were the wrong. Thank you not but for me With avery which can be your next I had forgotten that he was the bus guy. I had not connected that last. Shortly debris at the end of the last episode with the bus guy wouldn't have been like. Oh those are probably the scrolls in his luggage out. No 'cause he's the he's the bus guy so i you know 'cause mtm mtm blaze And this light which feels weird rothesay Because that usually that name is associated with very different types of characters. But richard. Boys amount that either. So i was. I was really a very defensive of him. This episode and avery needs to go away and never come back. How do you. How do you feel about what we get with avery here. Yeah no mike you. I had not gone the semester. I regard the end of the upset. Like just did not click. But as soon as i saw him in the dugout I was like oh. That's the bus driver got out. It's the bus tracker guy that makes sense. That makes much more sense than some rando pretending to be the emissary. Out gosh poor. Jocelyn we'll get jocelyn chesley just worse anyway all of that being said i really do feel like you for blaze like it's just rough because he gets that moment of triumph and then he gets this fake moment of triumph that he's established this connection with someone from lodge wine which is a big deal and someone that really believes in him. But i like that to get slightly. We get like a little bit of return in terms of every still comes back into the no. I think you can do this. And it will be amazing. If you can and you should join me slash us. I will be here Setting up like whatever weird faction east stuff is going on right now and that are just kind of percolating in the background the I wanted things to happen for place and so therefore. I don't want him to get tangled up in avery. Bullshit and whatever he clearly. He's a true believer and on this show as in most shows. I do not trust the true believer so We'll see what happens in the next few episodes at all that i imagine. There's quite a bit yet to come. And certainly in this episode we see at least one true believer validated in ernie But having you. I think it's nice that he comes back. At the end you sense that there's some level of authenticity to his connection with blaze. That's good to see have confirmed i also love by the way the first thing blazes. By the way. I copied the thing. I'm not an idiot so That's the kind of thing that any character should do. When they're showing super-secret thing they found to their new friend is already have made a backup. But i just. I obviously don't trust him and he's not a person anyone should trust. He's he's a comment with a long history of common people but having the largest specifically yeah the lodge specifically but it's like i feel that before too long. I'm going to be going but don't you remember plays. It's an allegory allegory. and alison. you're you're back with us. I'm back hello low. So do you have any thoughts on the baseball game. And are royalty larry and do you have any thoughts on avery orbis I mean i love the rule. That orders plays on the show in general. Just let the idea that th the death of this industry can or company can loom so large over an entire town. I think is really appropriate. Like it really makes a lot of sense to me. it's very american So i love their obstacle course. I want to know how many times they've done that. I want to encourage to keep looking for the sub basement. There's always a sub basement and sub basement probably So very intrigued by all of that. I had forgotten Exactly how all these things start to interact near the end of the season I feel terrible for blaze Although buddy I i've gotta say i'm not sure you're really on your game if you're convinced by heath shire on the fins in lower yorking him. It's not the most convincing lie. I've ever heard It's doesn't as it's not very convincing It's bad it's not it's not it's not good But like you guys. I had also. And i've seen this before not connected this time around that. Avery was also the guy from the bus. Just completely i got so caught up by oh it's not jocelyn that i completely blanked on that so that was a fun rediscovery. I'm glad because. I was just like house just laughing at to us for putting that together. Nope no no. It's not the kind of show where when i'm thinking about i'm lingering on the plot details ray so like a lot of that stuff tends to blur together and i just find myself thinking about the rat in the pool filter selling so well. Now that we're all chatting here. I think we have to go immediately to the most important part of this. Which is captain. And i- cackle cold. Yeah did i can't go with the beginning of the episode. Because one of the things that i think we get a fish on. I think we'd call dish on. Is the fact that that beautiful jeff can't handle the desert the first thing that we see it was delightful. I was highly entertained. And yeah Bruce campbell is captain and that just feels chefs kiss. I've been very excited for you to get to that casting. Knoll clocked it off the voice alone so he let me know that he knew who the captain was awhile back so i've just been waiting. This is by the way the image that i didn't want you to see was bruce campbell in the kiddie pool. So so now i think. Mostly you're going to be fine that and the tapeworm The parasite i those are the things i wanted specifically to not spoil for you and it just anyway Yeah it's just really inspired casting. I think you set a character up to be that big. You've got a really lean into that casting right and there's a a long list of actors who could do it but they're all like a certain not even stature just gravity lake like robert england or lake or Like like somebody who's like the biggest in whatever they do or one of the biggest in whatever they do like you could cast lebron james as the captain you could. You could cast someone like that as the captain. It couldn't just be a really good actor. I feel like it needed to be bigger than that. And bruce campbell is a perfect example and And wow gary gary guys gary gary marcus says bruce campbell is the person i knew was in the show but didn't know who he played so there you go well it. Also just you see bruce campbell. And if you have any connection with him or his his star image or his previous work on tv specifically but just in films and everything that tells you everything you need to know about the captain. he's actually. He's a very talented actor. Who can do a wide range of things. I still like wish he would get cast to do more really subtle stuff like his his turn on the x. Files is one of my favorite song on the x files and that more subdued role of the devil But like like you see him in that. You see kimmy while yours and you like. That's okay. I know what i need to know now. I am fascinated to find out how we got there. You know like this is the captain. Okay yeah yeah. No i was very. I was very excited to see him in the kidney pool because it was just bruce campbell just owns that he'd just carries it around with him and just is and they just went. Well we were gonna do something else but it makes much more sense but yeah i'm really excited. I agree with you that everything we get in that scene on top of the casting of campbell tells us everything we need to know about the captain even like the stuff that we do get with like this idea of him as mysterious vendor when the kind kind of deal plus everything that we with beautiful jeff who just milking bad badly being badly dehydrated so much to so much Just like buddy you should district like a day ago. You're fine But no apparently not. Nothing's too good for that. Boy is bus beaver creepy rest. That just reminded me i when i was watching this episode. I wrote down like five different possible. Zoom names and i got to put one on because it's it's beautiful jeff related so everything that beautiful jeff relays in that as well. I think just really builds it up and campbell as an actor without star persona feeds into all of that is like this kind of mythic super competent person who's deeply charismatic. But you also just feel like. There's this slight underbelly of siness that you can't quite get to but you know it's there but he's very good at hiding it And it's really campbell's whole deal and a lot of his work And so just putting them into. This is really really great. So i'm very excited about it. so yeah it's great and i was. I was very excited because as soon as ernie walked up to that trailer. Oh that's been working for the captain without knowing it for the past couple of days now and like beautiful beautiful. Who'd wanna make that commute. Who would want to go to this weird land development thing that is just so beautifully quintessentially los angeles land development that it's in the middle of the goddamn desert and there's like we can make this work because that's how california land development works Well and it looks like nothing is happening. I really i love this particular development because it's such a large forty-nine moment right because the real meat of the episode is also linked to duds choice and temp jobs right and that he's presented with two opportunities one like it's it's Temp to hire. It's possible career for you like really solid you. You weren't my first choice. But you got this great recommendation. So how about this. And then he's like no. What was the other one. Oh well it's the one that i'm having a hard time staffing because it's so shitty and the commute is held at the pay is decent. I think decent. He was like great. Yeah i'll take it. So that is how he ends up crossing paths with ernie in this way when really the overlap. That really matters is that it's also the episode where liz is like sorry career opportunity. No thank you And works the other way so they. So it's that thing and also this thing as a result of the same goofy seen which i think is just brilliant see like i think it's interesting because for liz. She shoots himself in the foot Career wise and i go on it and understand and and frankly probably right she will not pass the screening so he doesn't feel as much like she is like she should still finish it out just for future reference sake but like but she's not going to get that job. I agree with her that she's not going to get that job because she's got like a record with homeland security right exactly. It's homeland security. If you're is just a felony with like the city or the state. Yeah i mean you can watch that but depending on what. It is but homeland security. No i'm i'm i'm in. Ib impressive she could actually get on a plane and then does a similar thing. And i just get so frustrated with him. And so i like your car is about to be repossessed. You aren't paying down your loan but you're buying a new tv. And then not having the wherewithal or energy or interest to properly mounted or even just place it on the put on something leaning against the wall and so you just you shoot yourself in your already snake. Bitten foot was making a face on his face. Well i do think that there is. It's i agree Intentionally frustrated right like you're having the reaction you're supposed to have. I think however i do think one of the things this show does well as like. That's the result. That's what happens but what he would tell you. The story he would tell is that. He liberated ernie's tv from the pawn shop and then one and to do a nice thing for him because he's crashing their so he tried to put it back up on the mount where it was and he thought he was doing because he deserves better than watch the game on that twelve inch tv and then it all went haywire. And then all of a sudden he was being shot with a pellet gun and the ass and then nevertheless destiny brought them back together at the end that duds version. And it's stupid but you can sort of see why it is that he thought white is. He made some of those choices. The big question is like well. no dude. Why don't you just stop working the nightmare jobs and work one slightly less nightmare job and be slightly more comfortable and then you can actually do the lunch. You wanna do that. I think is the market starting tories but but he certainly thinks he's the hero of his story. Just take the energy to like. Go back to the library and print out some how to install a tv set by steps is all. I'm saying And marcus says also nine hundred dollars for us to be looking flyer like that's the way jewish my tv. You get a new tv of the same size for much less than that. So wouldn't be ernie's teammate. With zakut's trips that's point of. Tv from pumper. Nine hundred dollars. It's just ridiculous it's it's not. It's not a good anyone. I'm not even talking about that. I'm just literally anyone. Why did you go by tv from this man. Now it's called Way too much money anyway. yeah Well we got a couple of things we talked about. We should mention the possums. Because i would allen on. You're out for sure. I'm not owned that trailer. Yeah i think made that. The next natural step is probably correctly to go. Try to to bunk with ernie But i do think there are other choices you could have made before holing up in the abandoned shop as as you're resting place yes we jocelyn and because we have not talked about the big reveal of you know what larry has been up to and how he's been juggling all of these things in why he's been Why he did not want to retire. and everything he knew was was headed his way so Who wants to go. I i mean. I know things so i shouldn't go first. Okay so no when you go first. What did you think of jocelyn. Finally arriving avery reaction and then they reveal so i love joscelyn's arrival in the lodge of he just assumes everyone knows who he is which i think is just beautiful especially after the three days. He's had of the deemed child stealing his wallet is fast and then being trapped by homeland security something in common when he meets liz. Because i'm assuming meet liz at this point Because that's how the show works. But then avery just. I expected every both the other way but then running in pushing jocelyn over the table and getting that beautiful pratfall this. Show the pratfall which i really appreciate as a lover of pratfalls because there's nothing more deeply satisfying than a well executed Pratfall it's not as good as liz fall into the table or as good as her dropping poll through the table in this episode which was also just so good. I don't do it. She knows not So happy she didn't so all of that. I think is great. But i also think that the way in which and the just the sheer amount of sensitivity that adam gase imbues. I've seen where he's explaining everything larry's done cooked. The books is just like it's really. He legitimately feels terrible. That all of this is about to happen Despite all the homeless he's just gone through to get to this point but that this the kind of low key not even like points are just like legitimate regret that he's had to come here on deliverable spat news after going through the books. I think it's really really great and really. It's one of my favorite bits in the whole episode Just because of how honest it feels coming from jocelyn after all of this the about that scene is just that ernie had scammed dud on the other side of that the same way larry's been scamming all of them for years so i think that's just really nice paralleling as well But yeah everything that scene that godly does. i think it's really great They're just gonna lose the lodge from that mega foreclosure ever make a payment that do Yeah no that was just really really great One of the things. I love about what they do with. Jocelyn this episode is i always sort of enjoy when you can tell that that a writer is having a lot of fun giving someone the worst day possible because it's the pratfall obviously is the biggest example of that but then when they finally take him to his room. It's the sheets haven't been changed like oh. I thought we had clean sheets up here. Well you did That's that's because blazes getting some And is now traumatized So that's important and then you get the mouse and then the cockroach Just in the worst day that jocelyn has ever had. It's very charlie brown. And the football being pulled out I find it always that convention really satisfying I agree with all that. The scene between joslin and ernie is a potent. because it's all wrapped up in the mysteries of the lodge. Obviously we still have questions. About what johnson steel is. What the lodges deal is what. All of that means What larry was actually talking about. How much of joscelyn's what was going on. Larry is true true And all of that is they're floating on top but really it's about frustration and Embassy and loss and grief and all of these really good meaty things that you just get to watch these two actors dig into. I'm a really big fan of that. Same he's really gentle. Yeah that's agreement. That the word. I was looking for exotic gentle. That's what i wanted was gentle and it tells you a lot about him. After the week he's had and we know what seems like the most thrilling and exciting life before then It certainly like he was going to go on vacation and he had to cancel vacation to. Who's gonna like tennis. But he's going to the something. But i think it was like a tennis thing right profile. He was going to go on vacation. That i know is a thing from listening to podcasts. And stuff with british people like. It's like a significant thing and cancelled He could do this and then got harassed at the border crossing a customs his money in his wallet and his password stolen got knocked over by an impostor has to stay in a shitty room with like a dead body in the next you know like and also the mouse and also the cockroach and his parents not a good relationship there and he still has space within him to be compassionate to this guy. The tells you so much In it's really like 'cause you it would be very easy for this development to be one of anger and frustration. And it's it's it's it's betrayal but it's not anger. It's because as you know because having a baseball game in this episode also shows you. Yes what larry did was obviously wrong. And you know destructive but he also gave them a decade together that they wouldn't have had and blaze talks about how he was at his last rope when he met. Larry and larry helped him like he didn't even know where he would be. Now he's clearly some level of success with his business he seems to be And the republican pat job at the harbor Like like he's helped people in his own way Even it's a you know a postcards that is now falling apart. There's a balloon payment of three hundred thousand dollars. And who knows what that's gonna do to everyone else like it. All these other lodges. It's going to hurt a lotta people So it's not you know what he did was necessarily right but it's more complicated than he's a common as the emotional response to that news would be more complicated than he's a con man ray lake. That's what i really. I think your point about beginning with the baseball game and then following it with ernie sort of quiet moment at the end of it is really important because then it makes the rage the understandable rage that much more interesting and his reaction to dud. And what happens with done this episode more interesting and throw in his madman moment. Has betty draper shooting the crow moment and it gets it gets very dark. Yeah pretty dark Marcus says I feel like he wanted to to work correctly. And then only pulled. The con is last ditch effort to save what he loved Yeah can see why he made those choices At the crow thing release struck me now in the first episode pilot right. He was shooting near but not at them. In this time you shoots at right. That's the difference. I don't know if you'd like misjudged. Or what but he shot at. Yeah yeah so. We'll see what happened. Crows learn man Crews they're smart. They remember shit. Oh crows smart Closer ravens that will actively follow after and both. Yeah yeah people that they've heard from other crows are bat like you don't even have to do it to them. We'll tell your title. Yeah it almost looks like if you take nothing away from this episode crows corvus. Just oh god. This is what we should do. Okay top three most terrifying birds quickly since this is laudatory nine. Our thing is apparently ranking things unexpectedly. So i'll go first. My most terrifying birds one crows for sure absolutely because of often mentioned above and also like ominous symbol whatever science ports all of that stuff to seagulls seagulls. What no no no. I'm gonna do. Lump cheat say waterfowl because swan will bite you. A goose will chase you into your car. Goose will really go for you. And seagulls are not afraid of anything tear just terrifying monsters and then three is specifically this hour. That flew directly at my head. When i was walking through portland A couple years ago It was sitting on a thing. And and i didn't see it and all saddened. Tom goes holy shit. And it flew right over my head. like sw- like dusted me. Basically and it was terrifying. Those are my three km or noel which whoever sows skua. So they're beautiful and gorgeous but just like respect and give the distance yes so there's that one she's scared of birds at all. I don't think they're scary. But but you gotta you got to know when to like anything that is in the mass right any large scale thing where they like every time you turn around. There's more of them. It doesn't matter what kind of bird s and then then out for three what my actual answers. Dinosaurs backed. Yeah but but if i have to pick an actual currently existing bird That i guess. I guess i could see the chicken thing because sometimes you have to pick up a chicken you know. And and the like. That's hard and also you look ridiculous. But more importantly they will scratch peck. You most parts. There's no reason you would ever need to them up or interact with them. You just like leave him alone right Like when am i. Interacting with the falcon whammy interacting with like a hawk right. They scary absolutely you know but like it doesn't come. It doesn't happen. You don't actually have to interact but sometimes you might actually have to interact with the chicken and if you're angry. You also can't do that. You're gonna do your tempt them with some food or something. Like you know marcus. Once dive bombed by swallow when neared its nest. That wasn't fun. Yeah not fun. No lear picks So giessen goals like yeah. You don't screw goals. Those are the top. And i feel like you're legitimately scary. I have fear of them. Don't feel corbin's. I just respect them like they're too smart not smart not to like respect basically something without push by the way because this is actually really intelligent if they live longer we'd have a probl- the and then So right those were one in two. I guess the third is like i'm scared of like i'd just i'd never ever wanted like a buzzard or like one of those big markets. Like no. no thank you. I don't like being around horses. This thing's massive Any bird that's the is that size to a certain degree with wing spanish. Like no no thank you you you just you stay over there. I'm going to stay over here. Not die well. We ever going rather long. Wrap this up but as anything. We haven't talked about this date any quick thoughts on that so good sweet and i. I'm glad she charted author oh else in his thirsty. Okay more on that in a bit Anything else I mean i wouldn't bowl to not just because of the homeland security thing but also because of the that thing with tara was just like yeah. No i seem to be bombing this horribly. And i don't have enough to know that this woman is just depth facing me like that. She was doing really well. You know. I also think she would probably be miserable in that job but it does feel very much like a gloria like route. So she ends up in a different direction would probably be better for her Elson anything you want to save subset or anything when a hint for future and if not what's next title i'll just give you the next episode title. However i do want to point one thing out that i just learned in this moment which gives us something always important. When we're talking about large nine like a mysterious undercurrent of connection that's piecing our universes together In that i just learned today years old. I learned that gerry's last name is green meaning that there is a chance in some universe that the captain is future gary green from legends of tomorrow. Yeah that's amazing which i love. I think that's my new head. Kaman is gary gets in the way it goes like a nice life gets in the wave writer goes back to two thousand sixteen or whatever and and starts at an empire of some sort and sits in a kiddie pool so the next episode title is something from nothing. I mean that's the literal definition of alchemy. It's not the literal definition but it's aid but you can't do that is going to try to spin something from nothing to save the lodge. I think one of the big questions. I have leaving. This episode is given. How absolutely us just radically honest. Ernie has been with everybody in the lodge. All these things that have happened. Is he going to do that again. Or is he gonna make a different choice about all the stuff with larry and But i think that he's definitely gonna tell does gonna figured out how and then that will be duds new mission to make something from nothing and said the latch. That's cool yeah Something from nothing. I think will probably tie directly to the land development that they're in 'cause literally nothing it's just a vast expanse of nothing on habitable but aena slogan. Yeah yeah it's his mantra. Something from nothing out of the frame is where Lucifer got dumped. Yeah just like right just to the left. Marcus find secret room with enough money to save the loud. You know what it could happen. Lots of secret rooms. Just avoid the one with the mummy kat. I was a secret rooms. There's only been one so well to i guess but still they're connected so it feels like one. I want more secret rooms. Well i mean one of them did have a mummy kat in it corpus corpus. I'm mommy i think with that. We will call it so we will be back on wednesday talking about lottery. Nine season one episode eight thing from nothing. Thank you mark. Guess thanks mariah.

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The Horrific Making Of Terrifier with Art The Clown

Talk Is Jericho

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The Horrific Making Of Terrifier with Art The Clown

"The chair co network on Westwood One. Out for then man, wearing a clown. Astute. Tall tall recall? Rigaud? Welcome to talk is Jericho does the pot of thunder and rock and roll. And today the horror is coming back to talk his Jericho in the form of one of my favorite new movies. Terrify are featuring one of the best new horror movie villains that I've seen in the last twenty years aren't the clown. Played by David Howard Thornton. Are the clown is the main character, and terrifying and art is truly sick and played to the hilt by the amazing acting skills of David Howard Thornton. Dave is going to tell us all about art the clown. How he got the role what it was like wearing arts makeup and filming all those truly gruesome kill scenes working with director. Damian leoni. We'll also find out what David thinks about movies, kroth how scenes beheaded to cult favourite status. Whether there might be a sequel to terrify are so much more. And like I said, I got guys on hormone, we fanatic. Weaver did the watch along for sleep away camp to a few weeks ago with team tiger awesome. I watched a lot of horror. Or films and terrify or we're going to talk about this with David, but was suggested to me by rich ward when we were on tour of Canada a few months ago, November December, and I'm still talking about it of showed my niece of showing all my friends, very grisly gross disgusting movie, but also super creepy super scary. Art, the clown is one of the best movie villains. I've seen in a long time. Plays it to the hilt never breaks character of this psychotic clown. Who may or may not be supernatural lots of stuff to think about and talk about if you haven't seen terrify or watch it. I give it one hundred percent two thumbs up if you see in a million horror movies, you go. I'm not scared by anything anymore. Nothing really affects me terrify are will. But not in a super exploitive way. It's in the performance of David Howard Thornton as art the clown. So go check this out Damian looney did a great job writing this movie. He actually did the makeup for the clown. So many cool things that we're gonna talk about coming up. Here are the clown the newest slasher icon right up there with FREDDY Krueger and Jason leather face. That is my prediction many more. Art, the clown movies and sequels to come and we're going to learn more about art and David Howard Thornton right here. On talk is Jericho starting now. Keep looking over your shoulder. What if I did this car? What of clout? Knows. This is your car is out there watching us right now that Kyle with just some douchebag in a cost. Okay. So we were on tour in Canada. And. Guitar player. Richard knows I like horror movies, and he goes, I gotta show you this movie called terrified. I'm like, what is it got to watch the scene? He pulls up this scene with this creepy clown who is not saying word and he saw a girl in half as she's tied up upside down, the movie's called terrify, the characters aren't the clown and the actors David Howard thought, and I love the three names, by the way, that's like serial killers tapes to go by that. Because there's another actor out there by the name of David Thornton. He's actually Cindy loppers husband. You're gonna have to send the clown for visit to us. Yeah. Yeah. He was like in the notebook. It was like home alone. Three. Okay. Yeah. He actually lives in New York. I think as well. So are you a newer guy? I am now. I am. I I'm originally from Huntsville, Alabama. Let's just say here. The southern accent is come out lots of being back down here too. When you comes back. It's like, I'll farmers. Hey, how are ya? Oh there. It is. And it's makes them from Canada. Oh, yes. When I go back there. Hey, what's going on? On a cloudy Krenz was right. So now, I want to get into all of this. Art, the clown has become I'm not going to say I can't because it's too early for that like the hottest new killer or movies that I've seen maybe the last fifteen years or so it's been knots. We didn't expect any of this at all. Because like when we made the sequel to all house eve, which I took over the role for the regional guy. Mike, Jen who was fantastic. And then you just didn't want to go. So let's go back all hallows eve was the debut of art the clown. Yes, anthology film, and they found it over, of course, a few years. And this is the same director the terrifies he directed. It created the character wrote the script did all the makeup practical effects as Damien Leoni. He is just an extremely town. He's super jealous that we're talking. He is because I posted a picture at the days the dead. We are. And there was an art decline walk around. I posted the picture and he was like God. Your family. I'm talking to David Lee because I'm so Joe's ex metoo or he's been text me all day is I cannot believe this. I know dude. Show. We'll get into more as I followed him on Instagram because that's what makes you real friends nowadays. Yeah. And I scroll down and Kerry king from slayer who's a good friend of mine has the are the clown like little fun co pops Damian made it for him. I think for Christmas or text care dude aren't the Clinton's that gets the best this character. I think Damien wanna make you wanna he didn't have enough time to make it said next time, he's he's gonna make it happen. But so so we're talking about how this character is just kind of really it's been a real grass roots buzz as to how this character is moving because when rich told me, and I watched it, then my my niece Michaela who's twenty one or almost one one showed it to her. She showed it to her friends and so on and so on and so on it's been nuts. It's kind of like how how you know like the essence of the ring where like one person season today's start sharing people, and it just gets infections that way because like we released in March of last year, just unlike via on demand. Manned and DVD, Blu Ray. And it was already having a nice little buzz going around. But like, none of the mainstream like press and stuff, you know, like, those I've seen no sporting I g and nothing they're still I still hasn't said anything about us in a Mike. So it's been the fans that have gotten the word out about this. And it's been amazing. And then we released on Netflix and that endows in September. And we just exploded is like we had other like celebrities like tweeting stuff out like Instagram and things I think lily Reinhart from Riverdale like posted something and people went nuts over it on Twitter and Instagram and my holy crap. This has actually become something. And that's what I was trying to do because I have a lot of social media faller. So I've been planting the seize I knew we were going to do this because I don't do conventions. I just don't have time. The only reasonable do them is if I can get somebody cool for the podcast. And so I always go. Okay. So as the dead Atlanta wants you to go there. We'll keep who else is on the show and a look through like oh my gosh Vinnie. Vincent from kiss who. Yeah. Bailed. And. And David Thornton, David, Howarth or nuts or the clinic. Dude, if you can get me, David Howard Thornton. I'll be there. We got it off because everybody's now talking about this character. Yeah. So what was it? When you had the bus star growing was at one person or was. Ten thousand movies on it was just the buzz on like like the fans of all hallows eve or the ones that we made this foreign the first place because they love the character of art. And they wanted him to have his own films were okay. Sure. So we made this in the mind that we're just doing those were just doing this film for the those original fans of all hallows eve because they really want something with art. And we're like, okay, we're doing something fun for ourselves for the fans, if something comes of this great, if not, oh, well, we did something for the fans ourselves we made the horror film that we wanted to see and we. Yeah, we think he's a cool character. But you never know you never know what's going to catch someone's attention. So we're like, especially Damien, he can be like, well, you know, you never know man is lay and say, no other people, I know trust me, this guy this character. There's something about him. This unique that's needed in this industry right now. And we're like, well, we hope so we didn't expect it you're in a position like you said like it's a different world now in two thousand nineteen. Eighteen seventeen when you made it than it was in, you know, eighty four when nightmare Nelson comes out with FREDDY, Krueger, Robert Englund become synonymous with that. There's been countless Michael Myers has been countless, you know, Jason's. But as far as being just one guy all the way through basically. From a from on all the child's play. Okay. But that's the voice. Yeah. It's the base is Robert Ainley, Robert. So that's what I'm saying. Like, we haven't seen Gumma hormone fanatic. We haven't seen a killer like this. So you're in the position now, and we'll go through the whole past of it. But right now as this continues to build you could be the next Robert England, and you're probably like a Shakespearean actors. How do you feel about this like some random character that now is people are dressing up as on Halloween and coming to the conventions, as it's it's mind boggling because I I never imagined. I would even do horror. I figure if I ever did her. I would be like the smart ass character. He gets killed off halfway can also that. Yeah. That's what I figured. I'll be like, oh, God blanking on his name from scream, you know. I'll be right back and underline everybody that Kevin bacon and everyone since I'll be one of those guys. He's dead is dead because I've always done comedy Mahone tire life. I've more focused on stage voice over in. This is just a random thing that came across because I had seen all hallows eve. Let's might be the clone. We just said DP or not told him valley his cards my room, and they just called confirm it. So you can leave that in there. But let's talk about how how did you get this part of our the climate, and what is your background because you mentioned it from Huntsville, but you live in New York now, which to me when actors moved to New York and not LA New York's more of the stage state, right? And that's why I removed up to New York. I grew up doing like community theatre back in Huntsville for the longest time. And I tried to be like pragmatic about my life. So when I went to college, I actually got a degree in elementary education. Because I was like well as much as I love doing theater, I probably can't support a family with and I'll okay. Well, I love kids. I come from like four generations of teachers, so I can do a career with that in due theater on the site. Great cool. Awesome. And then my mom dumb. I think it was like my sophomore year of college. She was diagnosed with stage three SAFA, Joe cancer. And so about for two two and a half years there. She she was. Dealing with that. And she finally passed away from it. And she fought a long battle with that. She was only supposed to live six months, and she ended up willing herself to live for two and a half years, which like beat all the odds, and we had our final conversation with each other. And she's she just told me, it's like don't do what you think you have to do with your life. You've been given certain gifts that a lot of people don't have do what you want to do with your life dual. What makes you happy because you only have one shot as I I have so many, Greta I did not go out and do things don't be like me. This is the best advice. I can give you an like okay in. I let that like digest for a year. And I was teaching one day. And I I was going through a lot of other stuff. I had a lot of other personal things happen in about years time where my dawn died. My grandmother died a friend committed suicide and my sister, married a homeless man all space light one month. When I went to go do my internship in schools, and I was like. What is time? Yeah. I was I was just spiraling spiraling down. Like, I couldn't focus, and let's just so depressed, and I had that piffling one day in the classroom. I was doing storytime with my kids. And how I discovered I was like I'm getting more fulfillment of entertaining. My students doing all these crazy voices and stuff like that. Then teaching them. I'm like, I think this is what I this is my calling in life, and I call my dad up. He's nasa. Now, retired NASA engineer, and I I thought I was going to get that disturned like pragmatic engineer talk while you put all the time and effort into this, and blah, blah, blah, blah is like, no, your mom, and I always saw you should do this. Instead, but we didn't want to tell you what you do with your life. We want you to discover what you on d yourself. He's like go ahead. Take a year off just to your head in the game finish up your degree. And then go do what you wanna do with your life. And that's what I did. I moved up to New York did like off Broadway shows for a while finally ended up like. Lucas and voiceover jobs for video games animation toured with the national tour of how the Grinch stole Christmas for five years where I under studied. Stephan Carl who a lot of people might know from the children's show lazy town he was Robbie rotten on this. And he was an amazing physical the Grinch. Yes, he was the Grinch, and I always says under study, and he's amazing. He was amazing physical comedian. He was known as basically Iceland's Jim Carey he had a mastery over his body. And I had never known an actor like that. I grew up watching the old silent film. Wow. And I and that's what I immigrated. But I had never had anybody could help me find tune in Limoges interject something here. This is very interesting because the whole we'll get to this the whole secret ingenious the clown. If you haven't seen the movie is he never speaks. So it's all body legs. You said they Jim Carey like the way the clown is played by you. It's very much, Jim. Carey over accentuated body motions. So that's where you picked it up from us where I got it from Stephan. He really helped because that was what he did best. He he was a clown. That's kind of a Grinch thing to. Yeah. Xactly, and he he taught me so much, and I would have moments when I was onset where I would like how am I gonna approach the scene out have my call them. What would Stephan do moments? My I know give ST. Yeah. Exactly. Exactly. And that he was Hugh who's who I really pulled from. Of course, I pulled from the greats like Chaplin Keaton, even like Ron Atkinson silent movie, guys just great physical actors, and of course, Robert England. I mean, you you pull from the best. I kind of just did a maga- mation of let's back. So you're doing your off Broadway touring. How does the terrify script come to you? And why don't you get it of all it was purely serendipitous news because when they decided to make. Terrify? They went to Mike, Jen LA, and I don't know the whole story behind it. But Jean-Louis original art, the clown. Okay. Gotcha. Yes. And they went to him. And of course, Dame's a, hey, we're doing terrify you wanna play art. And I think bought by that point he wanted to other things with his life. And also he just do want to go through the makeup process. I want to hear what that. Yeah. And so he's like, oh, no, I'm sorry. I'm gonna pass. And so they put out an ad out there on the acting websites. Looking for an after that was tall skinny guy that had clowning or physical comedy experience for the quote unquote role of lifetime. And at that point. I was without a job. I had just gotten back from tour, and I had just taken months off. I had been like in final final. Call backs for three different Broadway. Tours nothing happened. I was like I'll just game discourage worst, right? Oh, gosh. I'm the worst additional to you get a call back. You get it's like looking in coach Parnell killing. And I was like come on come on. I can I can do this. And I was like like one of them actually came down to a flip of a coin where they couldn't decide between me and another guy they flip the coin in Ashley, I think of it. Now the coin landed in my favor because I would have been on the road at that point. I could've auditioned for this. But I came across it audition. And I had seen all house, even I love. The character. I had seen a horror movie fan. Okay. Gotcha. Cool. And I I love the character. When I I was like, oh my God cares. Like an evil Mr. bean that all what an awesome because I'd always wanted to play like, Mr. bean type character just play around being doesn't talk. Either. Not really remember. Here is Mitch debate news today. And that's why I was like oh my God. That's like such an awesome role. Nice. All the I'm like, yes. So I contacted my reps and like sin me in the instant me in. I mean, I know I know I can knock this one out. This is my wheelhouse. So they send me in I walk into the script yet. No, okay. I had nothing. All you. Saw was lifetime aren't the clown. Gosh, I have to play him. Right. And so I go in there for my audition have no script, I see all these other people in the room with scripts. I'm like, oh crap. Where they soon as scripts and like, oh, he forgot the Senate. Yeah. No, no. So I go in the room. And so my there like the producer Phil gets in me and stuff like that. And he brings me, and I'm like, so I hate to ask, but I don't have screen. Is there any way I can get ones like Dame? Oh, man. No. You don't need a script. Art doesn't talk. I'm like. Oh, okay. So what do I need to do? He's like we'll just go ahead and come up with seeing where you decapitate a guy. I'm like Boba, Katie. Can I have a few more minutes just to think about it? And he's like notice go hinges make it up as go along. And I'm like, okay. And this is why I think it's important for every actor anybody that goes into any any performance arts should like have some experience in improv because you never know you're going to be the shrews way. She got to go slow. You just have to go with the flow. And this is what came out my head. I probably need to go through a therapist. But I came with like a scenario. I think is online now. So yeah, where I sneak up behind. My victim knock him out. Cut off his head pick up the head like base myself in the blood, and then tastes the blood. And I'm like, I don't like the flavor. So I take out a salt shaker and I season it in the tasted again give it a thumbs up toss the head in the bag and skip out on my marriage. So miming, by the way, there's no actual head or salt shaker and just this had no time to just get this straight. So you come in there, and there's a bunch of people with scripts, and we don't know what these scripts were. Why did they? Strips. You didn't they're auditioning for other roles in the Gotcha. Yeah. So he's saying just decapitate somebody, and that's your only direction. That's my only direct don't talk. Okay. And that's came up. I washed it back. So here's the thing that I love like like once again, I'm a whore fanatic. Right. And the thing I loved like, I'm I've seen it all from J hoarded Jolla thicken gore knows which was gory pornos which was. Nothing sex me. But watching terrify are the thing that and this is what I showed it showed it to my biggest that might not even twenty one year old niece this. I'm just showing her are like. Yes. And the reason why we watched homeless we see them all from the paranormal activities too. The conjuring stool the one that begins with an eye in digits. Oh, yeah. Whatever it is by had more sleep to city. So thank you. Thanks. Bob insidious in did indigenous this the indigenous native version. But the point is like you see all of these kind of cookie cutter Hollywood movies. But when I saw this, you gotta see this terrifying. Movie because it's not the fact of the lot of diabolical gore, which is always great. But the killer says nothing, but it's not nothing like like a Jason or Michael Myers where it's just stick. Art, never breaks character of being a clown. Yeah. So it's the clown that you would pay to have entertain at your five year old's birthday party. But instead of you know, doing balloon tricks, he's cutting people in half from vagina to throat and he's doing it for himself. It's all about amusing himself. This is what he thinks and funny and entertaining, never brace character and talk into like facially. Of course, there's a lot of big, but I'm looking at your fingers, and I showed you the gift early when when DP was here of art, the clown and he's doing the little wave with his fingers. These really thin. Then I would say musician thing fingers. I play piano got these really thin fingers. It's your fingers that are like, obviously, we know. It's not real. Or maybe it is maybe because we're gonna kill me. And that's the. Task within the pockets. But watching your fingers like do that is the real art the clown here. So when you were told to do this decapitation with the salt and all this stuff. What happens when you're finished with what is Damian say he his head was on the table, and he was laughing his ass off in like fill our producer just kind of sitting there. Just like a God. He's like here's turns him his status can give each other like a look and they're like, so. How are you with wearing makeup on my good? I've done Lon children's theatre. I've had a lot of crazy makeup over the years. I'm totally fine with that. And I was like can you come in for a makeup? Definitely. Yeah. Yeah. Sure. Sure. It'd be happy to and I walked out of there. I was like I think I got it. I think you know, I'm still, you know, the the the real is Dick Armey has willing. You don't know for certain never who might come in, blah, blah, blah, blah. Of course, it's this show business in for a few months. I didn't hear anything and I finally get Email from Dame as a hey, can you come in from makeup just? Yeah. Sure. Cool. So I go in the worst two months on. It was like lemme give me something man. Right. And I didn't want to be pestering anybody. Somebody at that time. I was like, I guess they just didn't really need me. This like, oh, and I get there, and they do the makeup test of Moulmein face and everything like that unlike in the full makeup and everything and I'm like does this mean Ashi have the part? He's like, oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You've had it forever. I'm like, really? My agent never told me. And then like the pizza guy came while. I was in full outfit and everything like that. Hey, let's have some fun. Go answer the door. Okay. This is your final test. I just hope in the open the door, and I just kind of stand there and just stare at the guy. He's like what the hell. No. No. No. No. No. It's okay, man. Hey, random visa guy. If you're talking Jerko fan, we apologize. But see here's the thing that the thing with the clown makeup is when I show anybody that pictures of it because I was have you seen, you know, terrify. No. And I just screen shot the picture and send it actually have it saved. Yeah. Oh. Why do I'm serious? I love this movie. When you see the the makeup of our it's everyone does the same thing. Oh my God. That's creepy shit. But it was obviously already designed on all hallows eve. Yeah. So when you get it. It's it was there any updates to it or were they made him a little bit more gone because in like more gone. Yeah. Because like that's how Damian really wanted to be like Mike regular size guy. And like, I'm skinny as hell, I'm like, my mom say, you, you would have time my leg knocks the mcneese. So. As I tell people because especially down here in the south people growing up 'cause like D U eight. I'm like, yeah. Was like well why so skinny on this because I I have a crack in my bud is broken. Genetics. Maybe a family. What's again perfect for the role that you have to play. Right. So funny because I was something I used to be so self conscious of for the longest time being so skinny in. It's just like ended up getting big. Oh well. Lifetime. Right. So let's talk about when you first on the makeup as the quantity, and that's the type of makeup when I show anybody there instantly creeped out, especially my wife and anybody that's not a very good horror movie watch if they're scared or jump easily are so freaky looking forward talking with that makeup. Let me just remind all the sexy. Beast talk is jerick listeners that it doesn't matter. How skinny or not you are a DP yoga is a great option amount of your weight or fitness level. Funny thing is I was tracking the DP show that we did a few weeks ago. 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I mean, especially anytime, I do like new makeup like test or something like that. When my first time where he make up I like to sit in front of a mirror and just make faces to see how everything reads and stuff like that. And like my first time getting that full makeup, especially once I finally got the teeth in the context knows to. Oh, yeah. Long. Tricky is just he's ugly ugly in a terrifying. Yeah. He he's like like he kind of looks like the joker and FREDDY Krueger like a child or something like that. It's that kind of look about it and says freaky, look, it's just very unnatural look and in it. So I got there in front of me. And I also oh my God there. He is there. He is. Let me ask you questions. So you did this kind of cold audition where you just had to do some miming. When did they give you the script? I got the script shortly after I did what did you think when you loved it? I was like this stop. I love it. And I was like, wow, we're doing that to that girl. We we're going to hang upside. Wow. Okay. Cool. Cool. I'm all in 'cause I'm like, especially like the past ten years or so when I watched slasher film, they're playing it. So saying. And that's just not how is supposed to be in. My opinion is supposed to like push boundaries and make people uncomfortable. And that's what makes but also have fun with it and people forgotten how to have fun with it. Like, it would like, you know, going back in the day, washing the Jason movie, and the Freddie movies, they weren't necessarily really heavy on plot. The fund was the chase. The creative kills and everything. And that's what I found like lacking in law slashers recently. And I'm like, this doesn't we'd we'd just go ball. So the walls with and we're like what does that the other slashes didn't Z so vicious and violent like even the opening opening kill was the guys in the diner? We're just stabbing that guy in the face like a hundred times over the top. Like, you never saw that. You don't see that with Michael Myers jas? Jason stabbed somebody or whatever. This is different from that, you know, maliciousness to him. Yes. He's enjoying it. He he say that in the script you have to the art stabs. The victim countless over the top. Yes. On his just like stab stab stab stab step dab. I'm like, well who how many stabs was that five stabs or six? I was the script for the for the vagina to Gullit man is just basically as you saw. It news was just like art proceeds to cut or was it indeed is going in detail and all he's like starts then the cooter and goes on down her intestines start spilling out until screaming. And I'm like, I don't like God, man. We don't we don't have a giant as but just to think about that fraud. Like, how would feel for if you haven't seen it spoiler? Do what do you call a hacksaw? Yeah. Going from ball bag like how long would it last? Yeah. Before you passed out and died that was that one was so bad. Right. And he he got inspiration for that. From Oldman medieval torture methods. Actually, she used to do to people hanging them upside down taking they had two people the and just cut people an athlete. Josh. There's some shit. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I told him. I'm like dude for like future films men, you need to look more into this medieval stuff, and you not. Yes. A lot of cool. I did a favor on that. When I was in college about medieval torture kills and there's one rely. They put a cage filled with rats that haven't been fed like in a week on your stomach where the cage bottom, isn't there? They pull it out. So those rats just start eating you and sometimes they'll put fire on top. So that the rats is trying to save your belly. God who came up with? No, right. This is real stuff. Oh, and who who sat there and watch that happen to on my God. But once against and this is what I always say being a bad guy in wrestling. Yeah. Is it's a lot easier to make people hate you. Then is to make them like you. But once they start hating you. It's hard to keep them Haiti because you become entertaining. Like watching tariffs like art, the clown. Like when the first girl, I remember her name was the goes when the skeleton dress. Oh, yeah. On Tara Tara when? We got to talk with the student when she just gets shot by art, and she's dead and local she's supposed to be the one that lives. Yeah. So when she's dead now, I'm like, I don't know who throught for. I'm just gonna start rooting for art. Yeah. Right. And that's like art in wrestling, Colin baby faces or it will become a baby face slashed. Good guy. Just by proxy of how diabolically entertaining. It's like how you you root for Wiley Coyote, just like or you like the Terminator in one and two one is the vicious villain to. He's the good guy. A Hannibal Lecter is the good guy in the second one a joker had heath legend died within the good guy in the next man. You know, you had a point right? Yeah. And he was intere- -taining. Yeah. And that's the thing that I love those kind of bills where you can tell they're having fun with what they're doing. That makes them that scarier is just because it's like, oh my God. This guy's really enjoying this. This is something that's just like he's not just doing it out of anger. He's he's having fun like. That's when this man and not to get too deep into acting pantheon, but what was your motivation to play this because it's a very dark evil character. I mean, I brought a lot from the old silent film all that kind of stuff. But I brought a lot of joker into it and abroad a lot of Freddie into. I always like to say like really art is like if Freddie Krueger and Harpo Marx had a bastard child recall, the call clown. Yeah. What how long was the shoot? It was originally supposed to be like six weeks, but we had know low budget film, you know, sometimes run out we'll be money there. And we had a few other setbacks and stuff. So we ended up going between like we started fall of twenty fifteen and we ended up finally finishing our last scenes and twenty seventeen really ring but off and on we'll go to the year, and we had like a rough cut of it that we showed at film festival in sixteen up until rod Colorado, and they loved it. But we got feedback from that. And they. Want some more? So we ended up adding like the the scene ride decapitate the other exterminator. And we added more exciting because we're like people were like, well is there going to be a sequel? It was like well shoot we got to set up a Siegel. I guess that was my thing. I it was to see art at the end where he's like, I guess he's now immortal maybe something like this. I watched it. And when I I watched it as like, yeah. This things that bothered me. But I couldn't stop thinking about. So I watched it again. And then I watched it again and then again four times now. So at first I thought the beginning scene where the girl who once again spoiler alert, art lake's to eat people's faces which to me is the worst part that's worse than getting your JJ to go 'cause you're dead. He eats people's faces to they have to live afterwards. Yeah. So I thought that the girl at the beginning was a previous victim of art the clown that are facing off. But is it a wrap around where it's to grow? At the end is now becomes the killer kills okay? Yeah. Yeah. He I I look at this way. Like art when he first met terror in the film, he saw her as a strong woman near as like I want to break her. And so that's why he caught her best friend in half. And is like. That's gonna make her go crazy. But it didn't. She came back after him was kicking his ass. And that's like, okay, fine. I can't break you. You're too strong for me. Mentally, I cannot break your spirit. I'm done with you. You're no longer fun. Bang bang. Right. And you can tell that when he's killing you. He's not happy to kill her. Like all those other kills. He's like he's kind of pissed off that he had to do that. It's very cool because almost three I was that's almost a flag on the play for Syracuse. They'd just pulls out a gun and shoot, sir. But your explanation, right? There makes a lot of sense. He was he was he stabbed her a bit. And it was later when he used the cat of nine tails and other stuff, but at this point, he's just like Indiana Jones where he just the guy just the surplus fuck off boom dead. So that wow. Yeah. So he was sick of her besting him. Yeah. And he was upset then he found her cell phone with her sister. That said she was on the way. It's like, ooh. Game back on. And that's why he went in there and just finish the job and just bam. Bam. Bam over totally done. I got a new toy to play with. And so that's why he was going after her and he. He he wanted to make her go crazy good, he succeeded. Wow. Because like I said that's one thing that movie where it just continues onto where like I said, we don't know who were supposed to be cheering for even the commission the exterminator. And then are just like viciously like cuts off his head. No. Who's he kind of said? Yeah. And he stepped on the. Yeah. Just totally curb stomps him just so tell us a little bit of the special effects behind the scenes Damion did all of it. He does all the special does all the special effects that was none of that was CG. I think the only CG really have in the film is maybe like a little blood coming out. My at the end of that was that the rest heat that was all practical effects. He constructed himself had to make molds of people's faces and bodies and stuff. So when you did the vagina to Gullit that was an actual river body now and boy poor, Catherine. I'm she's I consider her to be our MVP of the film because she went through hell for that kill like when they made the body. All of her. They forgot to put the releasing agent on. So it was a full body mold of hers, and they she was stuck and they almost had to take her to the ER in that full body mole couldn't get it off. They eventually finally pride it off of her in that had been so painful, Gary how pasta phobic that had been scary. But she was a trooper intricate. She knew she knew what that scene was going to become and then the night that we filmed that saying it was like twenty degrees in this room because we filmed that at Seaview mental hospital. What city was this in Staten Island, New York, Stanton island? Yeah. Is twinned degrees. She had to be in that position is literally the upside down. We don't let her hang upside down because he's naked, by the way, naked cold all that blood all over, and it's going up and turn knows is legs or splayed. So let's not an interesting powers of doing this. Literally naked. Woman upside down with their legs the pulled apart and expose like that to a room full guy. That's desperately. Yeah. Right. But she was a total program. All of that, doesn't, you know didn't didn't like FOSS or anything like that. She was like, let's do this even got sick afterwards from all the blood rushing back. And it's just like she had a little balance issues for a while there. But you know, it was like really as like, she's the MVP the film because everybody talks about that saying, and it's because she toughed it out. But like you said that's the one when when rich was showing me this movie, he's like you have to watch this scene. And that was the one they had pulled up was was the, you know, the when you read this, do, you know that like it's going to be an iconic horror movie scene. A we thought that scene was something special. We when we're shopping we were trying to get distributors. And we think we had some studios so wanted actually put us in theaters, but they had a concession where they had to make some big cuts to the film. And that's what they really wanted to. Cut was that scene in Damian was like there is no way you were cutting that that's like this is this you have to trust me here. This is gonna be the scene that's going to make this movie do not cut the scene there. And so we almost went self distribution until Steve Barton, uncle creepy us, working dread. Central time had seen the film at one these film festivals. And he contacted people at trade central. He's like you guys have trust me. Take on this film. So dead. Dread. Central is a distribution. Yes. That's a website too. Yeah. Uncle creepy. Yes. Steve barton. Yeah. That's also the nickname for gene Simmons guys kiss. So so this is pretty cool. So we're gonna world right now where dread central which is like I said, I was just reading the top forty horror movies of all time under central. They're now able to finance movies as well. Yeah, they started their own little production company. Dread central presents where they have basically every month. They're releasing a a film. Yeah. Now, what is the name of the girl with the skeleton dress that her the actresses name is Gina canal? Gesture lives here in Atlanta too. She looks a lot like Neef Campbell. Yeah. If you notice that. Oh, yeah. We. Stick says, a huge. Yes. She loves that. She's she's also in the Bye-bye man as well. Okay. Yeah. She actually had to leave from filming with us to go film with that like little like two days afterwards. So yes, she's with us. It's like, oh my God. I'm sure in car would Doug Jones. I'm like shut your face. So when your time with them the makeup, look, I know David teases good friend of mine says get Drax the destroyer. It's like six hours every day. Who was it like for art? It was about four hours. Usually, I mean, sometimes it would take more because Damion was doing my makeup. So he'll like he did the makeup to he did my makeup. This is let's put on a show production for sure Iraq. I'll do the makeup of the special effects as -actly. Come on get. So what was explained the process would time? Would you have to show up and that was usually start with? Yeah. I would usually show up about a few hours per Irael strived onset because it takes awhile and shave your head. No god. No, they all cap. Yeah. But they would like put all this like glue all over my face because he had made a mold of my face. And then he sculpted like the mask off of that. Does this silicon based mask, and he would glue it to every inch of my face because of that it was very light. And it was very comfortable. I would forget I was wearing it but allowed for full range of expression, which also happy with that's the most important that's able to express right? You know being silent. You've got to be expressive. So. Yeah. It's just tedious thing because he didn't have to glue all that on to make sure every everything was stuck in all that. No, you know, air bubbles nothing like that. And then he had a paint all that on the nose yet. Let's all one piece that's all one piece. On. But it leaves your eyes and Galthie's the open. Yeah. Then the like you mentioned the teeth. Yeah. Had fake teeth for static ya'll. Make me. Drool. Like crazy. I sound like I was like some inbred redneck or something. Everybody. I it was always funny 'cause I would just have fun talking. Like that. As I. Yeah. Yeah. I'm our cloud. Hey almost BRAC from space. Ghost kills all the created the canneries just an idiot. Right. Oh, it was funny. Is it I just because he was like in between takes cracking jokes. Like that. Just how fun because this has got to be. So surreal seem you like this. As you hear this weird voice found sometimes heard the pervert from like family guy. Hey, every pile and the context we used to that. I hate contacts. Yeah. Yeah. But you know, you have to tough it out. And you have to the defining thing is there's a part in the film like near the end. You'll see me with green is because we had this one part where like one night, we're filming one the latter scenes and one the context ripped and we didn't have a backup pair, and we're like. Crap. We're like, you know, what we'll just do them. Without the context, we'll do every seen after this without the contacts end. So we'll have some kind of continuity and stuff like that. And maybe we'll explain why he had green is at one point. But maybe no one will notice tell you what you got to be a convict nerd for the city. See after eighteen minutes seconds. I'll is is. Great is. That's exactly never. Yeah. We did that all I was all that was like a constant joke because we're we're worrying about continuity where like blood splattered localize like excuse me. But in this scene had oblivious bladder right over his left eye in the next thing. They're what the heck worst thing ever loved the part two or she spying. I think maybe she's spying, but he's came with her when he's on the tricycle. Oh, God knows. She's watching. That all the like, I said all of that stuff is just banks just a psyche around. Yeah. It's just with her head is as I love it. So so as an actor we make choices so what in a lot of times you have to figure out what the back story of artists. What's your? Thought process like is was a real clown at some point. I can't say, okay. Because this is something Damien I discussed all that we still discuss we're still coming up more ideas for his background and stuff like that. The base of that was there because I want to know that from the get go who is he what is he what is his motivation here. And then we can start building upon that later on because I once again watching the first time because like I said, not jaded, but I've seen it all every horror movie would ever. So at the end of my okay. So now, he's just suddenly immortal like this, whatever. But Dan, I'm like, this is actually really cool like how does that happen? Right. I I like to think I mean, I don't know if this is the definite thing. But I I like to think that before he often self he didn't know he was just like you guys. I'm not in the gun. Let the police be the guys that take me on. I'm going out on my own terms by and he didn't expect to come back. He was just he's just this militias guy that he was an agent of chaos. He just wanted to drive people nuts and just 'cause much mayhem as he could. He just enjoyed it. And he finally like, oh crap Jacobs up. Okay, fine. I'm going on my own going out my own terms. Yes. Greedy guys. So. Yeah. So you know, we'll see where it goes from there. Did you think I mean, I mean, obviously this not a great question because we never know for sure. But when you finish the movie, and it goes out there. Do you think like, okay, we've got something here or do you think? Like all right time to go look for another grant stage gig. Like, what were you thinking? When it go when it's done. I I was saying I hope this go somewhere. But also like, I don't know. So I still auditioned for I did like a episode of Gotham and stuff like that. And I still doing voice over work for like a little kid shows and stuff like that. So I'm like, that's what was really weird thing. You know, I kill people on this. And then I go in your voice a cowl. So I'm like once it's like, this is what I do say. What a weird as a working actor. That's what you do one gig ends. Yeah. Work is work. I don't care as long as I'm having fun. And I'm making a living doing Wyan join I'm not going to complain. But it's funny because you talk about and this happens to all of us when you strike gold with something that you never expected terrify low budget movie. Yeah. Now, whether the next movie has a bigger budget, or I'm not going to talking out of my ass. The better be frigging next movie. But at the very least now, you're doing comic convention. I mean, I don't know what you have or don't have as far as rights, whatever. But even royalty wise Damian has I'm sure it's creating the clown that we've seen are decline. Mass cautious you wearing art decline Christmas sweater right now, which I have with the syringes that knocked her out, by the way. But I mean, this is become like I said, it's like. I always say you can judge a character with somebody can dress up for them as them on Halloween. Yeah. And we have this. Then we haven't had it for years. And I was like so many people just last year addressing up, and I that's why I love seeing all these like because we now I think it's a trick true studios is about to release an official art the clown Halloween costume. But before that everybody was just creating their own. I'd love seeing the engineer. Witty thereabouts coming up with and they're very interesting variations like sexy. Art, the clown on my oh my God. French made are the, wow, I'm feeling things. I probably shouldn't healing. I find myself attractive what? Hey, this is interesting. Even little kids were dressing up as the clown for Halloween. I'm like why you saw this film like married, not yet girlfriend. I'm I'm playing the field is what I'm saying. Is that there's a lot of chicks, especially these places might wanna bang art, the class, Paul Stanley sit back in the day. They want to leave me leave the makeup on. I just did. Yeah. They go. It's funny because back in the day when I was in the highest goes like this geeky guy in high school, those kind of girls want give me the time. You're you're hot certain circumstances. Okay. It is terrifying. Kind of a worldwide thing or yes, it's been released around the world's been released internationally. We actually even go into Germany Canada. Unlike we're trying think New Zealand the movie or for the for like, conventions and stuff inventions. Yeah. And they've released it also Italy. It's you know, it's going we've actually been places outside the US even like Spain and England people have done sides of building with graffiti of art the clan on like, this is insane. Like, I said it's becoming a grassroots thing where people are starting to hear about it. And like do the this is you guys struck gold on this. Like, I just it was purely just capturing lightning in a bottle is like it's all Damian is like dude, you created something. Well, I have to stop you here. And and and and say this in your credit. Yes. Damien had the vision. But you played it. And just talking to anyone when I saw you do that addition online. And then saw you today in real life. It's like, obviously, you don't have the mask the prosthetics and stuff. But I see where it's coming from endless. I could write a great solo for eighty. But if he doesn't play it like van Halen doesn't work that way. Drew? You know what I mean? So this is now become now, it's Damian, and you you know, what? I mean, that's a really cool places like how Jackie Earle Haley did, Freddie. And I just wasn't the same. Check hero hanging do rate wondering Oscar my God, he's saying that it's not him. Yeah. But it was is just not is not Robert in. It's just like. Wow. Wow. I mean like I loved him on the tick. Did you watch him on the two two? Oh my gosh race, Derek. Pericles? These these amazing. Oh, I still love him as Kelly leak in bad news bears. Yeah. All my wise. Oh, my got that. Awesome. Bad his bears and breaking training yells at his dad for. By his mum. Wow. As we start to wind down because I know you gotta waffles waffle how hike. Gets gathered outside today's. I got no room come and said his carrots on the couch shit on the floor over there. Like, did you really clean it? Guilty. People. Come in our made America as as an actor. And like I said this to me even more of a testament to your skills is that when you're playing this part. There's no words. Yeah. And there's a lot of makeup. That's hard hard to do. I'm assuming it's it's hard in a way. But for me, it's it's one of those fun challenges. And like I said, I always wanted to tackle character like Mr. Bain. And now I get to in my I'm loving it. And it's like this. What Damien would do we had that? That's why I like the relationship I have with him with actor director type relationship like we would have scenes where he would know exactly what he wanted me to do like, you know, down to the very light the angle he wanted me to tilt my head or something like that. And other seems like the pizza reasoning and he was like, you know, what just play. We'll see. When you come into the pizzeria before you do anything where you giving her the plastic ring, and that was in the script. But he didn't say how to do it just do something. Like do some creative way. I'm like, okay. We'll just play around with that. Like all the facial expressions. Like, that's a great examples. Like, he's like, you're just make a few few faces. We'll just film, and I just kept filming in they never yelled cut and I just kept on making face after face after face. And it was maybe I think maybe three or four or five minutes of them. Just let me go. And they they're like, oh crap. We cut. I think it got enough. And like, yeah. We've never seen a killer that toying with his prey like in my mind, and in this was usually, but. Exactly knows from the moment. He sees these girls in the street that kind of act like a couple of, you know, drunk chicks. Okay. All right mother, the wait and see what happens. So he's playing with them Myers. Never. Did that Voorhis never did that they just come out of the woods and kill people? Yeah. He is actually like warming them up and she takes the self and he lets her. And then, of course, takes the self in return for his cutter and half that to me was even creepy or was like these girls are like girls that you see or don't see whatever they come here. The bar the hot shit. They don't care and he's like, okay. All right. And see what happens that to me was really deep horror for me. Yeah. And it's also a realistic type of hard because there are people like that in this world. Yes, that's a real filled with a lot of females especially in the bigger cities and stuff like that. It's like, that's that's what I kind of based on that stuff. That was going on that pizza reacing where he would just stare at them. Because guys will do that on the subway. I have. I've had female roommates. I've had that same country gas staring at them. But would have that guy was literally stay because he knows he's going to murder Saizen you happy as like. Oh, yeah. It's like it's like cats daring at its Paret. Yes. Now, this might be a question like what was in the briefcase in Pulp Fiction that Vinnie Vega. Wandered back. But what was in the garbage bag only see a little bit of it like at the same see him. I were he's got the terrorists character tied up. He's he's opened up as he's got a lot of his toys R, all his little tools of destruction. But I I like to think sometimes he has some body parts and there's as well just for a late night snack. That's his that's his little bag. It's like Felix the cat, but evil always a cannibal people's faces. Yeah. The one thing I love is at the end when her face was like like one of the the aliens from they live. It's like that's too much. Yeah. So last couple questions for you, man. So I mean, we're assuming that hopefully, they'll be more of art the clown, and he talks about it thoughts. Yeah. Well, Damian's almost done as I'm saying this these almost done with the script for the sequel how I've already gotten see a sneak peek of it. And it's got me. So fricking giddy is going to be bigger and crazier and like I mean, he when I was reading it. He had me come over his place. And let me read it. And I was just like he knew where I was in the script, by the way. I would giggle like certain types of laughs and my certain like, ooh, he's sitting there. Watching you read the script. Yeah. Yeah. It was I think it was fun for both of us. Just do it that way. And you know, he's fine tuning things. And I think after that he's going to hopefully, try to start shopping it to some studios. Thank now with the buzz that has to be able to get more of a budget. I would like some light blunt house Pickus. I would man that will be a drink brew theater or. Can I watch Netflix? Netflix nowadays is just as financially viable is going to blunt house yet. They do. Great work. Yeah. Yeah. Especially they've been great with a lot of independent films and stuff like that. And you know, it's like would love to have some light that take us on who there's so many other options out there. So we're going to try to explore all that. But like, but we want the next one to be bigger than we want the better budget for that, you know, and we want to be even more accessible to audiences. So we would of course, love to have, you know, released in theaters, you know, we'll see. Right. It's like I said when you have you mentioned earlier lightning in the bottle. I'm like what a great place to be where you don't know what you're really going to get out of it. Yeah. And yet like you said, you're going to lose different countries. And like when you come to like read days, the dead here in Atlanta when people come to get an autograph, forget a picture is it a little bit creepy as it cool or they dressed as Archer. They love it because I used to go to conventions to especially I've done costs plays the joker several times and on my I love it. So I've been on that side. And that was like always like a dream of mine to actually be on that side of the table one day. And I'm because it's like it's a great way to interact with the fans. That's how I look at it. It's like I'm finally able to like think people face to face because these are the people that made us successful in my I'm so happy to have this experience of actually show my gratitude in my own way in actually meet people, and I love to have conversations with people at the table as much as I can. And is his dream. Come true. I'm like, you can't beat this. You know, it's funny because once again, like sometimes when I meet fans of they're looking at me, and I can tell that they can like I can't believe this is really Christine talking to you. There's certain things that you do that's art decline. It's. Like, this is the real guy. Like, there's a lot of your, and this is what makes a great character is your own personality turned up to eleven and whatever this thing would your portrayal and performances art like you can see it talking with you without you know, it's really. Last couple of questions two last questions. One. What is your favorite horror movie out of all? Is there a few or don't have an absolute favorite? But the five I usually like to list, they're all classic student me. I it's like regional Texas chainsaw massacre. Nightmare on elm street. Three three more years. Love it. I think it seems sung by docking. Yeah. Got is that? It was just like that's where it found it stride. This is fun. Exorcist omen, and I would say Halloween doodle. I of halloween's my favorite all times Jerry movie, but the omen that one still gets to me God this day. Like, I will watch that movie Irving. Very Nick is because like if you have any knowledge of Christianity the bible, they could happen is happening will happen. But for me when I was a kid. My parents went and saw nineteen seventy six I was five years old. I woke up, and my mom was looking through my hair. Two years later. She was making sure to sixty six. Oh my God. She found it. No. He's so creepy, Gregory pack that little kid is just weird, man. So creepy, you know, guns and roses fan, of course slash and I talk about the omen to the T of how creepy it still holds out. It's just that the graveyard scene with the hell hounds. He catches the spike in his arm. And it's just like, oh, there's a picture of the the spike from the church out through his head. Oh, good stuff. Go watch the omen. What will go watch terrify? I the only last question for you. What's your favorite scene in terrified? Oh, the pizza racing. Really? Yeah. I think you see every aspect of art in that scene. You see his playfulness you see his viciousness and see just how messed up in the he is like even when he just going after the after the girls have left, and he's just going after the guys at work that he didn't have to go after he didn't get in. To do that. But any he likes? He just brutalizes that guy's face. When I got the film that scene. I was like my gun Dame's keep going at it. Just keep going into in news. I actually got to stab with the real blade into that things. Like, a rubber knows a real. It was not a real face. But he's a real guy, but he made this had like layers to Asha hadn't muscle literatures might get through it. Yeah. So I would get Stockton. I had a it out and blood spilt goals. Oh, so much fun doing that. I have so much fun doing that. Just shows. Like, he he he he dials everything up to eleven. He just point like Michael Myers. Jason do just like, okay. Done onto the next victim. He's like I'm having fun on. And he goes like goes to the bathroom like rice art on the wall. He stuff like that. Like, he's just. Yeah. Why would you do that? Why ran that's like one of my pet peeves is when people don't flush. So I'm just like that. Sometimes you go to a gas station about the quarter you do to the court. And then I took it and wrote my name on the wall. Like why man the one scene that? I love is when she the girls are so stupid in this movie too. By the way, when she's obviously she's chained the door and she's run away. But she has to go back and look through and then art reaches through it starts honking the horn his little bicycle horn. We ain't man. That's an asshole. But he's such a. Never breaks character. Leasing she just watches as the car comes and hits or through the wall. I'm like art the clown. Forever man. Oh, yeah. Do. But honestly, it's so excited to talk to you and the future of art the clown because this has potential to go iconic the way that FREDDY and Jason and leather face has. So when you see the pictures of those three were they look like, you know, the one picture where it's like those Marlon Brando at the diner with Humphrey Bogart in Maryland, transposals faces aren't the clowns should be and man would be in that realm man, if I could ever sit at the table with those lightens, I would be that would just be. But the thing is is just you Robert England, and then a bunch of leather faces and a bunch of Friday's in a bunch of of Jason's like this is like the next step for, Freddie. You have to be art the clown. Gator raise and we're back. And we're back. I'm okay with that. Not complain. Congratulations. Thank you so much. I need to get one of those sweaters. So. Yeah, definitely. I'm sure Damien can hook you up. Okay. Yeah. The cloud himself. Calm day the terror threats people and stuff like. You gotta go to wall smug smothered, scattered and smothered all that kind of stuff from a true native of hunts. Yeah. A so good. They don't take credit cards. No quick story. I I went to offer house once was with Shane McMahon. His son and a couple of us went in and shames I'll pay for it to go to credit card, and like we don't take credit cards at waffle, our buddy. I think I'll pay the fourteen dollars. Yeah. It's all good. Thank you. All right. You heard it right here. There's going to be a sequel to terrify are already written. And we'll definitely have David Howard Thornton back and Damian Leoni the director and writer and the makeup artist. Is you heard all those guys will be back? Both those guys will be back when it comes out. And I can't wait to see what gruesome deaths they come up with for the next one. And how creepy it's going to be an can't wait to see how many art the clowns are out for Halloween this year. 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"You're listening to inside of you with michael rosenbaum very special episode today. I'm a huge fan ryan. You know that yeah. I'm a big fan. And i got to work with this guy in a movie called urban legend. Which many of you probably didn't see but my dog dies. They put it in the microwave in the movie. Dark stuff god the but it was great working with him. He was really fun. We got to do a little fangoria magazine interview. Robert england. Of course freddy kruger Is his great interview. I really was waiting for this one. I tried to get him for a long time. And i finally came around. Maybe he didn't know you know who's to say you just got vaccinated. Did got my second best second back so we can hug soon. We can two weeks two weeks. You'll hug me. I will guys you need to watch podcast just to see us on the show Couple reminders first of all thank you for subscribing and listening to the show and if you hear to listen to robert in your big hoorah fan. 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And then the first ten years in hollywood you know my god. I hit my marks with jeff bridges and rbis streisand. Burt reynolds and charles. Ronson susan serandon. I had partial. Nude scene with susan serandon partial. Where you're at your susan was topless. Well what about you know. I was playing the bashful size sidekick on all okay so i got to be bashful and sensitive and susan had to button her blouse flash me. Have you ever baird asking one thousand nine hundred seventy five. That's rocky horror. Show era homina. Homina homina did you. I mean did you ever bare ass or anything like that. Oh yeah yeah. I recently to cast are down around my knee time. Yeah no obscure clinic. I had to run around naked and share clinic so this scientists so that was kind of wait a minute. You showed your junk. Well i mean. I could see it when i go from like a kind of Samadi tank in a one of those hot tub sensory deprivation hot tubs. And they put a towel around the in march me across. But you know. I went to daly's i saw the notice. You're like somebody's gonna take this some aid like some little assistance going to just take a picture of your junk and it's going to be everywhere. What was that magazine celebrity skin remember. Yup i do. Don't you remember you. And may jonathan silverman back in the nineteen sixties. You have the blame mansion. In celebrity scan the silverman was dating a couple of girls from petticoat junction. Souza's you really are aging there. Is that old old silverman. I know general right general. Well listen were your parents when you were growing up. 'cause like first of all i want to say i love. You have always loved you. You were an idol of mine and working with you in urban legend and just being in a trailer and i remember fangoria magazine came to interview us and i just was on cloud nine. It was my first big movie really part and we just really hit it off. And i just always admired you and looked up to you and we got along so fondly that it was just You made it so easy for everybody around you because you are a legend and even at that time you order breakfast across service one at the wind. I think we had really graft service like some fabulous lesbians from vancouver. Who were making us great granola with a lot around sugar. I remember you ordering. Is mike as as christopher walken. One day gigs. Easy scrambled robert england's with you. It's not an. It's not land as lund swedish swedish. You are swedish. But wow duke. How everything's it's relaxed. And it's funny as i ended up working with him like two years later and after that i asked without doing doing walking walking's he was kind of weirded out by me but because i was so you get that bright i kinda young guy looking at him with on and he's a great another fan boy and other fan boy but he was cool. But you know when i met you you were so humble you had such a good time and we. That was really a good time shooting. Urban legend was a great cast. I mean i've had a little crush on a leash wit my entire career. I remember on the old civil such cybill shepherd. Show say that ten times fast. But i mean you know. Jared leto pre-oscar josh jackson. The unsung acting in that movie. I mean loretta devine door unsung performance in that movie. Rebecca gay hearts great in that movie. Yeah what about the guy. What about the professor remember. He was from x. Files that will see. I had lunch with john. Neville john neville. I had when i was arado boy and i was all hatches on my sleeves. You know and talking. Like madonna in london Royal academy We study some of those performances and john naval had done othello on the west end with richard burton when the entire audience was teenage girls because burton was so beautiful you know with his strategic acne scars and that beautiful voice it sounded like silver thunder and and they would all do the matinees. 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Oh oh heather. No she she. She detailed negative she loved. I guess she loved. Apparently she'd had a lot of nudes. Change at the open when you're naked the old or the royal shakespeare company. That's really something you know. Yeah wow that's pretty amazing. I remember john was great. I remember that one line goes the weekend we can eat if you look at you if you if you i am. Be amazing allie. He's done everything she yet to see stuff he did. I think he was sort of the new john gielgud. I think that's sort of high could see that. Yeah hey kid and you were born in glendale you were born in glendale was born in the foothills. There is a place. There's a out weird area. Where hollywood and atwater village yup and and boulevard is sort of like low steelers. It's glendale and there are some foothills. going up. i was born at a hospital. Knows foothills. But i almost immediately became valley boy. I grew up almost until i was eighteen. I was in the valley. I was valley boy. And i lived in encino and sherman oaks and woodland hills northridge and i lived for while on that street right down right down the block from clark gable. When i was a little kid onto the market with my mom clark gable would be in there. You know how that you always wanna do it. Act i i remember. Yeah yeah. I remember the moment. I was supposed to be a lawyer. I remember the moment. I was dragged dragged off to a professional children's workshop children's theatre workshop and i was with his older girl. Who's the hottest girl valley and that's saying something that's war that she later became a talk show host in ego and she was a wannabe actors. And i figured. I'd just be you know sweeping backstage. And and ushering or something. I got all the lead roles. I was annot kill. I was either banned aladdin. Who's hansel in hansel. And read it in greenwich and i also got late. For the first time i was twelve years old with her with the puerto rican. A all i remember was there was a sweatshirt. Said bloomington indiana on it. It was kids from all over the country. So some bad girl from bloomington indiana. How old were you when you got laid. Love and a half. Yeah wait wait how old my summer of twelve and a half while. I didn't have a penetration sex for a long time after that but yeah twelve and a half. I don't have hair on my balls till i was eighteen. And probably the worst of ass in the world you know about premature ejaculation or any and i had. I had curlers in my hair curlers my ear. The girl had my hair was supposed to be curly. For god's ridiculous that is absolutely wonderfully ridiculous hairdryers or your parents where they always supportive of what you were doing. And and and just like i love you. I love you robert You can't go wrong with us. did you have a good support system. Florence out for the children's their cell. I blame them kinda then later on. They of thought. I would change my tune and and stick with law because i was an athlete and because i was international thespian guide and because i had good grades i was sort of a fast tracked. Maybe they invited me up to stanford for that thing you do in the see your senior year you go to college right and i went up there and i was pretty hard core surfer and the the one thing we hated worse. Tito's you know you have surf board shorts not so beatles. I want him to stand for the frat boys from all over the country. And it was the first sunny day Up in palo alto and they all had their speed ozone and they were laying out a lawn outside the frat houses rubbing each other with baby oil get a suntan is. Everybody liked to be tan back that we didn't know about skin cancer. Any creep me out sonata. So i went to cal state northridge and ucla for awhile. You know. I just stayed close to all but they were always like whenever you wanna do. We love you. Did you get like a lot of love as a kid. I this great. I had a great upbringing. I mean you know it was. I i look back. And it was like really encouraged and let me along and also that kind of freedom you know. There was my generation we had tons of freedom. You know your mom or your dad would whistled for you for dinner in. I remember the at night until you were just out the neighborhood and who can tell who is cruel by where people's bicycles were in the driveways because in those days nobody parked in driveways. You have to use the garage. You know in the streets for kids in orange groves and the beach in was for kids. I experienced that. I experienced that eighties. It was just a freedom of like beyond by ten. They didn't know where you were. If you wanted to go see someone at the movie theater go. I'm either at seven and just hope there. Will you also learned kind of social interaction and how to survive and and it was weird like it strange points during your your childhood memory when cool kids were nicely the verse time you know momentum over had her parents or something or you get to go swimming in their pool or or their momma. Drop you off at the beach. Drop you off at malibu. That would leave you there all day and those moments of time. I think a real important. Because i if you if you're not out on your own you're not able to kind of negotiate at kind of social a demarcation that exists in society. Yeah i think that's really nice. You know i look at your career and you've done so much look at tv a look at the movies. I look at all these things when you know. Your parents are seeing success. And they're singing. Charlie's angels you did charlie's angels long. I've been around. Yeah jesus well. That's not that old. That's sny first. Job is seventy three but my my professional debut is sixty eight. How old were you when he twenty one. Now your parents when you did now your parents no longer with u been gone for a while. Yeah you know i. I wonder they see all these roles. They got to experience a lot of your success right. Yeah well my mom wasn't around for a lot of freddie but the very beginning of ready but my dad. My dad's grave mama was. I was working. And i couldn't go to the premiere of my first movie because i was out killing burt reynolds in another movie and so my dad went to. My premiere movie directed by dan. Patrick the whitest guy. In the world canadian director great director directed among other things the original raisin in the sun You know and and that cash is. Who's who of great black actors. But i i didn't get to go to the premier and the after party was at shea since am i bad. Got to go with pamela. Sue martin and jan michael. Vince took arabic and my dad. Got to go to the after party at stations and my dad's a martini guy and chases famous for like the best martini in the world. My dad had been there before But not a lot so my dad loved that my dad kind of knew i had arrived because he got to go to the after party at chasen's and i had you know the first time to get single card at your own table my first movie. I got single car single card in at the. You have your own table at the party. If there's you know yeah oh my god yeah or billing and so my dad china got in and i can't let it. I was bobby. England robbie england for my whole life and i use robert england and that my debt really made my dad field is s Add atacama when he was pissed at me. But what was it like like robert robert get your twelve and a half years old lay pipe doing schwinn out of the driveway. But like you know. I have to say when i first got smallville when they first saw it. That was the first time they were like. Oh you're on a successful show. Like i had done a lot of things that weren't successful but that was but this was the biggest thing this was like holy shit so nightmare. Yeah and all of a sudden you know it was like everybody was was like wait a minute. It's not just another independent film or a little know. My dad always said what are you doing. I'm doing this movie. When's give me and theaters well. It's independent so it's not real. Well now it could become a movie. Yeah it always just somehow lessened. It made me feel lesser. Than i was. But we won't get into that but but i wonder when they first saw nightmare on elm street and they saw you as not playing the buddy not playing these. You know the plays and all that stuff is great and they're like this our sons talented but when they saw you as this come to life this larger than life character. Did they ever does your mom or dad ever just say. Wow robert. did they ever have that moment. Ain't never saw me on stage at the professionally. Which was a great point because i had a couple of big successes on stage but johnny carson. I think did a freddy kruger. Joke or or or decatur somebody joke. And they heard that and data. And i'd sort of entered the popular culture by then and there was also. On the sunday funnies some one of the cartoonists in the sunday said sadun. Freddy krueger thing. And that's actually. What sort of relax. Relax them you know. Wow i had also done. The was a big show them street and it was a mini series that it was a big event and it had this really rare advertising campaign. Like rosemary's baby. When i was in college and ucla hanging out all over the streets of westwood there were stencils since said pray for rosemary's baby and fake revealing it said pray for rosemary's baby so we were all anticipating if you haven't read the book. I r- eleven. You know what. What is this rosemary's baby. It's it's coming and or you just see a an entire billboard and it was just a a a baby's fast you know or a baby carriage creeping so they did same thing with the fragrance fake graffiti like dripping graffiti light graffiti right a big vienna dripping like red red spray. Paint everywhere all over america on billboards and my parents saw that. And i had already told him i was doing it so they knew that was sort of like you know and also and you know this. I mean you've done a lot of independence you get that. Tv money that first tv check you forget. That's where the bucks are tv nation. After you make your money to buy your first house. And i couldn't believe you know getting those first checks for the wall you after a month. You know. you're maybe you've got six figures in the bank. You can't believe it you know. And that was mark singer right v. mark and faye grant. I see if i saw fayed grant singing in the rain on broadway. She so good. 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And freddie forest was under contract zoya trope but i got in for the surfer because i had another big wednesday because i surf so they brought me for the surfer. They thought it was a little bit too old. I had kind of stubbly beard. But i was bought by tan. I was serving. I long blonde hair and i was wearing kind of military of thrift shop outfit apocalypse. Now right the guy even had a pair of fake dog tags on my shirt unbutton long blonde. Curly hair and fred's fred rooster. Somebody walked me across the hall from the apocalypse. Now addition which. I did not get. They said you know you might be right for something here and brought me over to the star wars dish and i don't even think it was called star wars then and they took my polaroid like a mugshot and full face and i think it was for the han solo role. I think they were. They didn't know how to go with it. Originally they were thinking of an older uncle. The kind of guy that brings joint because all the kids colder on. And then and i think they even offered it to tom seller. I think i heard he turned them down or some. I don't know but anyway. He returned down for revolt offer. Reverse mortgage back in the day little. Anne's husband passed away. She loves her house. She didn't want to lose her house. Anyway i've been around the block saying my first rodeo. And i go across the hall and ended and i've just excited 'cause i love george lucas graffiti one thirty eight. I love georgia. I go across a holiday. Take my polaroid. Maybe four hans solo. But i know this is sides for luke skywalker. Because the name. It's such a great name. Luke skywalker and i looked at the sides. I can't remember if i stole them or not. And went across the street to the formosa. So now you know where. I am at a couple of bushmills jumped in my old two thousand dotson not to thousand cubic inches and i went. Went back to my place and laurel canyon and i look outsiders para old beat up frye boots in front of my front door. Which means smart cameras is. We would take our shoes. I had nice carpeting. In my my lair of in laurel canyon and mark was on my couch watching the bob newhart show. We would watch bob newhart and mary. Tyler moore if we had watched the originals than we call our ages. And i walk in the door. And i said hey mark george lucas doing another building. And you might be right for us. So my my once upon a time in hollywood story. Is that freddie. Krueger told luke skywalker their colleagues aged and he got the bar he got in there about the bar now his agent haetzni telling this story because she swears that she already had submitted him. But i don't know but this is before your time but in the seventies you are either movies or tv you didn't go back and forth until travolta. Oh yeah until. Welcome back kotter. And then he went inside and that was the big shift. That was a big shift. He were either movie. I or a tv guy and your agents had power accordingly. You know to them and even then it was tough even after. That didn't really start to happen. Until like even i'd say in two thousands like you know it was tricky. I mean you're either. Tv after or you remove movie actor was very different. Yeah while what a great story so you and you and mark hamill reclose. Mark was turned me onto the kinks. Turned me onto lenny bruce. All the lenny. Bruce albums lord buckley The best of all Was monty python and we had all the albums and i did for like a year. I didn't realized they performed. That stuff. Actually performed sketch comedy. I just thought they were like bbc. Radio voices and we would lay on our backs you know. Look at the ceiling in my art in. Just play the album's over and over again and try to memorize the routines love monty. Python mark hamill in real life is really really quick. Really funny years. You know vote. He works a little blue in. It's different than you think. Because he's so it was so good looking it was always sort of like leading man. But he's actually i think character ac. I know a lot of people are like richard gere's maybe he's such a good looking guy but it might actually really be a character actor in a leading man's body. I think it happens occasionally to some of these guys. Did you have where you know. You and margaret good friends and then this happens. All the time he goes off to do star wars he becomes a big star. And you don't hear from him again. No mark a back and told us all stories. If you say this is going to suck wade mark nuke is marks a fan boy you know marks marquette a had a letter in famous monsters magazine as a trial you think he was a military brat and mark new That it was gonna be huge. And i got told me you know alec guinness stories and i think he had a crush on carrie fisher and no mark and i were were friends after that for for a while. What changed was i moved. I moved to santa. monica had some money after I think it was after stay hungry. And we moved to santa monica or a move. Some mark mark moves remark. Moved to malibu and i moved to hancock art and i would just that was like you know. We just didn't see each other as much anymore. Markup mary And that that's sort of like when we would see him. Occasionally at comecon downer sandiego and star wars was seventy eight six. Yeah so in. Seventy seven seventy eight and and nightmare on elm street was what eighty four. Yeah i was just. I was doing. I was doing my fonda movie. Rife right around that. Yeah did you. when you auditioned. Do you remember the senior audition. For freddie i. It was a meat. I didn't read you met with wes. Note it was a meet And it was. I think it was in north hollywood but it might have been at the studio the old busy lou studio ongo enga but i again. I was like surfing. That wasn't acting. I was just surfing. So i was really really tan and i had really long blonde hair and my hair is kind of fine and sin and i remember greasing my hair back using some while under the hood of my car and i've told her story a million times. I'm sorry if i'm boring. Oh no i haven't heard it. And i also use cigarette ash under my eyes. It's an old makeup theater trick. It looks very real. You can make your eyes look real heroin. Chic kind of junkie and kind of counteract. My healthy might healthy malibu tan and agrees my hair back in. You can kind of see through my hair to see my skull a little bit because my hair was greased and slicked back and My hairlines high anyway. And i went in and i just remember. Keep your mouth shut robert. Keep your mouth shut and i. I played staring games with west. I tried not to blink when you're a kid. You try not to blink who to go. Longest without blinking and latin west. Was the rack on tour. Last was telling me all of his ideas about the movie and what it meant and how it would be. And i listen to absorb that i kind of goes a little bit. I kind of suck my cheeks in kind of made. My is a little bit psycho and i think that's how i got the part but annette benning. I don't know if you went up for national lampoon movies or stuff with annette benning but annette ending. I had just been up for national lampoon's class reunion every role in the movie. I tested with everybody. Annie potts i tested with. Everybody and i didn't get it. I kind of canceled myself. Talk with my being versatile or something. I don't know and a net felt bad about that. And i think that was really my champion and convince west Annette benning a non. An advance benson. Jesus christ instant not an ed banning. Not the actress okay. That's that's a that's a mind. Fart above no defense was the casting direct. She did a lot lots. he's quite famous. And i think she really fought for me. But there's another theory that real skinny and a hatchet face and they were very worried. Bob shaye head of new line west grave and they were all worried. David miller the makeup effects guy about when you put make on somebody a lot of times they have a big head and a lot of people in film have big ads because it looks great on phil. Small people get you know what i'm talking about a big thank you but made the bottom percents. Then their heads really look big especially if they don't have broad shoulders. Well i'm five hundred. i've got raised. We rock shoulder. So i could take the prosthetics without looking out of ricky. She'll to the rest of audie. And i think it could have been as simple as that. Although i hadn't done any tests raising they may have just been able to tell by the way i looked. Did you think you're gonna like oh. They're gonna fire me once they see makeup on. There's always these this actor thought of like they're gonna fire me now. No you know it was. It was a strange thing. I kind of owned it. A quick made less. Didn't give me much direction from after about the first couple of days i just sorta got it. He knew i. I knew that freddie exists in a dream so it's a little larger than life. You're dreaming. Freddie is not walking around an alley. Sharon a cigarette with you. Or mosa. Freddie's freddie's in your dream so it's slightly exaggerated freddie can break into song and dance if he wanted to and He kind of knows your subconscious. He's kind of in their living in your underwear drawer of your subconscious. And knowing what makes you tick. So i kinda got that right away and westchester left me alone that he liked the way physical is it and i would sort of set free. I had done like a year and a half straight of television. And you know michael. How many times the end of the day they light you for forty five minutes instead you in a corner and you just have to listen to somebody else's model and they just need you can only use three seconds of that but you stand there for a half hour trying to look cool and You know. I was so freed from that wearing the makeup and getting physical is. I felt very liberated i was able to move more and a dance to guy. What was your first line that you remember and you didn't like how am i going to deliver this. What am i did you know. Did you rehearse it a million times in front of the mirror. I found a voice putting the makeup on really. That's when you found the voice. Yeah and i think the first line. I had was just saying the name of the girl tina and i think i did it a lot of ways but i wanted to do with a whisper. E- i had this idea of it as a whisper dot dot dot. You know i could sort of see it mentally. And i think that was my first line. I've found the voice sitting out in the valley deep valley borderline klima north. Hollywood and i was in a garage. David miller of the great david millers make up shop and in an old vintage nineteen fifty s nineteen forties barber share in front of the mirrors. And maybe this was the second or third time. We did a makeup test and david wasn't real hygiene with his russia's wasn't real good kid kind of stiffen crusty day-old slot and he was kind of like touching me up because weser bob share. Both of them were coming over to a look at the makeup and give him notes and he was kind of stabbing his crusty rush. I think i soft like got data data. And i saw myself say god damn dated in the mirror and the reason i said that was was a little horse or something or i haven't had my morning coffee and i went. Oh a i kinda liked that at a place voice. Were wow character. So i had the voice from that day miller. What day you know badges freddie's softened like this i'm saying hey what are we gonna. He's trying to eat. Wants to listen to heavy metal music in the morning. I wanna watch the today. Show let's watch the today show. I liked that jane pauley. Hey and that's my voice you know serve. Usa robert from the valley ryan. I can't use my raw voice along those don't work at all. So i found that voice yelling in scolding david miller like eight in the morning somewhere you know in each comfort. North hollywood You know in in a barber's chair. Nice seeing it come out of that face in the mirror. Dot tamatave it. Just love that. Wait a minute. Thank you david. What you're fucked you're crazy. I know i mean. I watched the documentary. It was like a. I don't know eight parts. Whatever series of of the whole nightmare down the street. And and i washed it and it was just like you know they of let you run free after a while because you come up with all the stuff i mean i mean a lot of those things you were welcome to prime time bitch was your line right. That's a In all fairness to the writers and there's some gray writers like os du other road shawshank redemption we of great writers on the show force majeure of great able and And of course wes ryan haglund. No but you know what happens. You don't smallville about halfway through season two. Maybe sooner view. Michael about know you get you have your house directors on a series and then you have because of the you have to have new directors every so many episodes and you know every once in a while you get a new director. And he's probably not a real big super boy fan right now he wants. He likes terrence malick. He wants to follow lex luther with a hand held steady cam between his legs walking up the stairs and and and they don't that's not he's not paying attention to the blind know who you really liked and he makes you stand next to somebody who don't like or a wants you to do something a piece of business with crop that you know as michael rosenbaum. You know. he wouldn't do that lex. Luther wouldn't wouldn't drink a beer out of a bottle in iran. It's not lex. Luther drinks you know twenty five year. Old scotch out of crystal right. You just know that about the eric well you own. It comes a point where even you know. More than the writers. About the do's and don'ts of lex luther and in the same thing happened with me with freddie comes a point where i just owned it. You know we're ready harlan. The director runny harland or really let alone on par four and that's my favorite performance Of a freddie you really low a kind of dance. The character a bit rise than they make him reptilian at where the furniture. Yeah i mean you just you just tell you how he more and more fun. I remember the audience even like even during the whole run of all the The the movies. I remember forcing my mom enforced my mom. She loved horror movies and got me to watch. Harm these with her when i was eight. So that's why i'm kind of fucked up but we're watching the one where i believe it's dream warriors and i remember somebody in the audience just jumped up and goes dads read. His mama molina krueger. And i was i remember going. Wow man. people are excited about this movie. Still well you know. There's a great happy accident. I'm sure it's happened to us. Coalfields video for me would have been dvd for you. Michael i came of my. My career came of age during the video revolution. So i had hit movies in the theaters and then they became hit. Hit hit films again when they came out on video to a whole erotic. But i have that times eight and that's not counting tv series. And not only. Do i have that times eight that i have it again with dvd. And blu ray and table and marathons on cable so you get a new generation on a generation of fans sue. your singers. Your writ movie had twenty year run. It was eighty four eighty four to ninety four and then ten years went away and we did freddie versus jason and that revived that provided again for a new generation so we actually had a twenty year. Run eight movies television series and dvd and videos and then the videos began to make and then the dvd's became blu. Ray you know and and and they became more sophisticated now. Evil aren't doing that anymore. But now people. I m looking ligon subset of menus on a streaming app the other day and i couldn't believe it was like a robert englund section just horror movies. What was done in. Europe side of us is brought to you by geico. Gotta love geico guys. 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And i was supposed to our start the next day and i literally remember being in makeup late in the day like two in the afternoon and they had finished with the second day of using this double and the director jack shoulder had gone to bob shaye in the on said he got a reshoot. This stuff with robert. It's horrible skies walking around like frankenstein and to was you. Don't know and i really have to thank jack shoulder for stopping shooting while i was getting made up in the makeup trailer when i finally scheduled i'd finished whatever else i was doing some other movie. And the a They brought me night and they were already a couple of days into the shooting of the boys at the high school and Rob me in. And i was there getting my make. I think i was my for my one and only late call for makeup. I had up until about normally on there at the crack of dawn and I think i saw the other guy for from it. I saw them. They had a mask on him or something. I don't know if they add the right bank on it. Because they hadn't designed for him and kevin yeager was the makeup guy for part. Two great kevin roper new sleepy hollow created schalke in and kennedy egger in his air putting on my megabit and he'd prepared it so obviously we've been we've made the deal is he'd handed the the molds and everything already gotten the molds david miller and had done all the sculpting on the prosthetic thesis and it was finer and thinner I remember. I don't quite remember going to kevin shop at. Perhaps i did before that. Maybe i did go to go to kevin shop and do a test but there there had been a delay and scheduling But i really have jack shoulder. Thank for being the guy you know. The director are saying you gotta use raw years. Nobody else so. There was no discrepancy. There was no not ever thinking of not casting you in the second one because of money or anything like that they offered me. I was offered the part. And i don't think it was money is i i. I remember I was still. Perhaps i had just finished the second or i was still doing the series of e or i just finished series of the we were all sitting around with our fingers cross would be picked up and And i had renegotiated. And that's where we you know. As far as making my big riot. I marinella straight. You should have been was quite easy communities. Say they're offering know this amount. Fine fine i'll do it. You know but they have to wait. Wait done with the last episode of my of v them. That i'll be on hold for v to hear of on picked up and we'll sit in nightmare announced and they were all. They were kind of upi about that. But but yeah. But robert. I like i know i would have been an anybody listening. We've been like i'm freddie fucking krueger. That movie was. I'm fred krueger here. So up michael. You have to understand back then. My head was in v. v was my international success. Were flying me over to italy or award. I think i'd already done one movie in europe which i love. I love working in europe. In spain or somewhere. And i i loved playing freddie and i knew freddie was a hit there was only one freddie and it had just begun to take off huge internationally and this would have been eighty five and my head was not just in the freddie gruber playbook i was still hoping i'd get picked up for the because then i would be rich than each. And so i wasn't thinking about negotiating. My agent was just trying to think clear the schedule make this okay and not demand a bunch of money. That wasn't where my head was that Again i'll tell you that. The end of nightmare jew been one. We're talking about. I do pick up shots in a little. Mtv studio on santa monica boulevard. in west. hollywood. And i just. I think i had the like pure around at war. I you know they saw me. They saw my shadow. Maybe a shot moving up. I lives in and he saw me from now. Just a couple of atmosphere pickup shots. And they wes craven them. The original gulf do for the pickup shots. And i went over there. And i've been told by somebody at fangbo watch out or industrial espionage of fan boys. We're going to try to steal some rocks at the shoot and we realize a couple of guys there on the crew that weren't really on the group unreasonably idead them was because they had ran new. A tool belts from walmart. Know that new kind of timberland letter right or upon know that you don't like when you go to school the first after christmas guy that has all the new clothes on you know you could tell. It was rep everything. All the tools were shiny and new. You know didn't have the right loops so we kind of figured out who these guys were. So i took the glove. I took the original glove. I just gave it to my age as a present. You know. 'cause i i didn't think this nightmare announced thing was going to be that big sur. I got. I did two of them. You know it's it's helping me overseas right you know. I had made a lot of money. I thought it was gonna be a star back. And i thought oh. I'm going to be the new doctors spot or something and The next thing. I know. I've got first class tickets. The perez verse plastic hong kong and all that stuff wow and of changed overnight and then by the time regain the i couldn't control of the time nightmare three-game around which i think is the biggest of all shark cat. That's my favorite the originals. My favorite than three. I would say is my second free reas. The fans favorite yet threes. Definitely the just the kids in you straightens new nightmare the best of. Oh yeah. That's fantastic deal. Kind of deconstructed ops kind of manta. Yeah and what did you know a lot of people. I know you've heard this a million times and you could like denounce it or whatever but you know they say that the second film when you watch it. There's a lot of you know. Undertones there are sexual. What's the proper terminology here. There's a subjects. let's call it like it is. There's the homosexual subtext or do the gay. Subtext is that freddie is playing with boys. He's in their subconscious. Mark patent and robert rustler freddie's in their heads. They're having freddie nightmare so he's playing with these toys line with their adolescent hormuz and any latent homosexuality that might be present in either of them. So that's their. We played with that and freddie plays where there's a scene where i you know i circle the boy's mouth with my blade practically french writer here. I remember talking to mark and mark was. I'm gonna make this real darkly erotic here. We we were on top. Jack was so busy worrying about the facts and the money and that constantly talk clock going. You know when you're shooting. Jack doesn't remember you know that we played with that but i know mark and i talked about the wrestler night. Talk a bob. Say i think on the interviews. He would say like no. I don't remember anything like i think he was. The one op doesn't remember talking about because you were so worried about know getting shot in pasadena if you know anything about shooting in pasadena you gotta have. Everything rolled up out of town by ten thirty at night. Or now you know. It's a huge fine. They had a lot of pressure on. Bob shaye plays an sm bartender. All erotic ramadi definitely. It's not you know we right away. You know i right away. I was getting all his fan mail from kids. Love san and mark pat her from from from boys and girls were saying we seeing ourselves troubled. All of that and confusing. You know and it's we played Was just it was just one more element to sink your teeth it. It's amazing a movies about but it is a subject. It's amazing that. I as a kid when i watched it scared the shit outta me and i didn't recognize any of that and then when i watched it as an adult i go. Oh my gosh look at the door says. Keep out the boy if you watch any of. There's there's sexual stuff at all. Oh yeah oh yeah. There's a beauty and the beast sexuality in their part of it but it's not. You know the thing that that people get wrong imagining that freddie's of paedophile nano now freddie. He's a child killer. You want to think of that poetically. Darkly olympic like like a like a door song. You know jim morrison's classic cover of child killer was child air. It's darling. Child killer has a thing to it is killing. The future shows killing future Dark and william blake and and creepy and dark about that it out. So he's killing. Kids does doesn't he doesn't need a rape that enough that he's telling them. Yeah yeah it's bad enough. I you know by the way your energy back on set on urban legend with you you just had that lovable fund just your great storyteller. And i appreciate we talk about when you never you and i bought it over movies. We'd love how yeah. And i wanna bomb with you again and we got to catch up for real. I mean this is. This is enormous to me. I love this. I've always wanted to have you and the fans my patrons out there. They're gonna love this by the way this is. This is called shit talking with rob england and this is rapid fire. See answer these real quick. From from fans rapid-fire taylor cable was the most difficult scene to film the nightmare. On elm street franchise probably The the demon freddy in in freddie versus jason. I'm a little over the help when i did that. Movie the do my sit-ups every morning and eat my yogurt and gluten free and i that's really underwater in that movie that's coming out. Wow landing on the deck of the beer. But i couldn't get that mega off. Because they double glued me on the demon mega and they were worried. That i'd leak like an old condo you know and like a water balloon a double glued me get that off and it took hours against colder rubbed instructed struggle by then i'm raw and i had to go back to work the next morning at dawn to put the traditional bay on and issued a week. Thank god. I had a raked up on friday step as the king of nightmares. Have you ever had a real nightmare that scared you. Yeah yeah yeah i. I have one for years when i was a child and i had it into adolescence. Where it. It's sort of pork chop hill meets manchurian candidate. You know the traditional a korean war green soldier north korean soldier. They have that that that hat with with a flat end up and the reds star so that scared to death. It's a cold war. Fear i guess from watching the news or something. But i'm on a playground. I'm a child. i mean elementary school. And i'm in the lap of the most beautiful girl in the sixth grade and i'm dying and she's caressing me and blood's coming out of the corner of my mouth and over. The fence of the playground are all of these north korean soldiers with guns and for coats and those those those hats with red star the end the ear flaps. End up coming at me. And i reloaded from where it's from but i had probably until i was twenty years old. Don't e- before you go to bed. And i wrote about it in my book and i mentioned the girl's name and about five years ago. I got a email from her girl. This girl from my sixth grade class. Wow what does it mean. I don't know man that's james. Swear to god. I am not even being weird but i had a dream that you came over my house and said zoom me and you were in an makeup. But you are. It was really bad makeup. And i'm like well you know you don't have to make up for the interview and then you're like no it's fine. It's fine and you're looking at my shit. Your it was just weird. I don't know anyway. Carly t you have played freddie across various platforms. What's your favorite version of ready to play. You said the fourth one do you like any for the one. Running harland erupted i. He let me kind of physical. Is it and dancing a little war that really performance our lauren. Wd still have the iconic red and blue sweater. No way no way. I gave it to a planet hollywood for their big opening and they shut down. Your is it. Must be in. Bruce willis as attic now or as asks up little lisa. So what was your favorite part about working on urban legend. Besides working with me like those lunches with baron. Munchausen john now to our medical. Those were fun. Plus i got i got to act with alicia witt and i had such a crush knew. How does nancy no this. I don't know. I don't know you now late in life. I got a little tangled for redheads. I never had now. Now i'll be flipping around the tv. I shoot rhonda fleming movie and i get a hard on. I mean i don't understand it. Well russky ass russky speaking russky all russky. Oh they're russky s you add lebanon. The great one liners. He already told us this story. But what's your what's your favorite one liner. Well i i like welcome to prime time bitch. There's one in freddie versus jason. Where he says don't worry The first time tends to get a little messy. Remember that good. God leeann p. I love your portrayal william. what am i all. Time favorite mini series v of course any fund memories. You'd like to share from behind the scenes. Well you know. i always brokenhearted. It'd be got prematurely. Cancelled only turned to series one night. We were working on the back lot of others and we had a trash barrels with little fires in like a homeless encampments. And we're all sitting around warming our hands during this scene. And i went over and i saw that the dailies the next day and it was nighttime. And we're all lit underneath with the flames and i said this is what the show should look like because they tried to play the normalcy of the earth being invaded and held captive by these aliens. And i love the idea of the underground and the rebels kind of having like live by their wits and living underground and this idea of of these sort of like a homeless camps and the fires in trash cans and skulking around at night it just when. Oh my god. This is probably halfway into this series. Low cost nothing shoot nights and make it look. Now we've seen that post apocalyptic. Look on everything. Bri death of that back then in the early eighties was a great look and we could have embraced that i think along with the leftover john dykstra creations and it would have been a better look for the series lisa. H what was it like with andrew dice clay in the adventures of ford fairlane. Your character in that movie made her laugh out loud. Allow snapper on snapper snapper ahead. Hey zone i go to a market That my first gourmet market a chalet. Gourmet a corner of sunset boulevard and fairfax and i. I almost scratched andrews cadillac opening the door there once and everyone off on beacon character. You're smoking a cigarette in the barking. Then cup two years later. I'm working with andrew and And he remembered it you know and he he was really sweet you know. He kind of apologizes. I was in a bad mood. I just lost art. But i remember when andrew his first his first house and he was signing the papers in his dressing and he was nervous is like a big kit. Know he's really is a teddy bear in in real life. But you know. I remember nora nora dunn line now and complaining about him and we you as a comic and as after knowing other actors source material. I always knew that that he was doing a little. Bit of buddy love. And a little. Bit of fonzie rally. You know he he was doing a little. Bit of lords of flack where she was doing but he joined by the fukushima during those long island guys you and i know that and for her not to see that and the thing that was andrew you know it'd be kind of broke my heart the wind out of his career well but he's had the last lap said that. Hbo show that great woody allen movie cape land i remember he cried on arsenio hall the it was he was like you know people you know they think that i'm gonna sway He starts talking about that but he had the best. One liners. this guy in the audience was hacking we don't need people like you get out of hand. He looks goes. Why don't you turn mutate the round and bite your throat duly soul a favor you faulk and he goes. Hey you look at you you the type of guy that gets out of the shower at a pace a loved it. I mean i just tweak. I didn't mean that shit. He's just was a candidate. Any starship at all or early that you know a movie didn't do that well when it came out but now it's you know you've had some like zoot great greatest full-fledged call classic. Now yeah hey lastingly ask your gottfried vinci for motley crue. I mean everybody. And their dog is that i remember. Being in the capital records building sitting with a priscilla presley. and wayne newton and he had the left front left-handed a stratocaster of jimi hendrix and and wayne. Newton is a huge rock encyclopedia. He knows everything about rock and roll. Everybody's mad everybody's mr las vegas and he was telling stories about elvis and literally playing chords on the jimi hendrix stratocaster and he in brazil are old friends. And you know it's like wow and then we went to rose. Joel silver in vegas at arose and i got the walk through the casino with the king of las vegas his wife. Priscilla presley on one and and rain newton. Mr las vegas on the other and the casino part like the red sea the ten commandments and people came up and they had brazila kiss her kiss their dice. You know not andrew dice clay in. Yeah they also had. It just wanted to touch them for good luck. That was all because you know andrew dice. Clay is will be joel silver produced and also directed that at the directed art for but that was just a a a really fun game. I did all my own stunts and that do that's me sinking boat know it's really yours. Truly i love. Hey let me ask you. Lastly before we go i should have. Maybe this shouldn't be the last question but you know i worked with wests We did a movie. That didn't nobody saw really called. Kirsten i i really loved him. He sent me a letter before. I worked with them. Just i still have the letter about. Just just saying i love your work and i'd love for you to come and join us and it was just but when he passed away it broke my heart. I felt so horrible about it. But i know that you you knew for so many years. Were you guys close and did it. How did it affect you. We were closed and mutual. Respect a double threat writer director. Which you always feel comfortable with that. And i did a series for west vancouver and We were watching us in l. One night i i. The best department of by stanley park is might want my dog and stanley art and we were watching. Snl and it was the night of the head wound. Harry sketch with dana and the west and myself my wife a couple of the actors from the show. We're all sitting around a bottle of wine and headroom. Harry king and west is very tall know and west sitting on my couch and west almost fell off the couch laughing. He was laughing so hard he was crying and he turned into a fourteen year old. Boy that is west dark funny. Tricky humor that head wound. Harry was and I mean i like slap him on the back as he was laughing. Sore going to choke and less letdown. His air some speak in front of me. That night gotten a little drunk. You know and laughed. Julia was crying at that sketch. And and i think he was kind of my gift from west that he finally became one of the guys with wall. Instead of just my boss he was one of the guys finally. that's amazing. Yeah he. I remember again. He used to always had me. Do impressions for takes. The cast were the so. They had to redo this movie curse so they re did it. They wanted to reshoot it which he was so pissed off about it and The actors had to come back but they recast couple of actors and he asked me and you know wasn't even a huge part but i just wanted to work with west. I just didn't care. And every day he would just have me michael. Do it like walking. Do like malkovich do it. Like the cast was like tired but they're like kind of trying to be nice. But i'm like are you sure he's like yes. And so i. I was barely in the movie. And then when we had a wrap party on the video i was like eighty percent of it. I'm a guy the orange like six days in the movie and he he was just so at the end of it. We used to talk about anthony mehari because it was a hoax. I'm like no it wasn't we would talk about it right up to shooting and we would just he was so fun to be around and at the and ago last he has michael i. It's great working with my pleasure. It was a real pleasure. And i go. I'm going to give you a hug. Now goes you share. And i go if you don't mind because okay we gave each other. This is and it was. Just i just love i wanted. He's one of those guys where you want him to like you. You just you just such a good spirit to be around in a lot of people. Don't know i don't know if you've went up to his house and a coolest bachelor pad in all the la he lived in steve mcqueen's old bachelor pad retooled yet. You know an exercise rule and everything in it was cool every coffee table book every every cd. Line around the art on the walls was just a ghoulish placed right on a cliff. Way nichols canyon overlooking seek catilina. And so there's that part of wes he also when i first met him at his first house. Venice had great some great cars original k. E. hero jewel. Audrey have earned. You know out of steel a million gay in his garage but there's also the west craven that as a child was not allowed to read comic books or go to movies or watch. Tv could only see like a couple of disney movies a year. So i was always of catching up. You can always turn restaurant. Is the moody or or you know some horror movie rate classic or or something kind of grind house quentin tarantino ads orders or something like that. Is he sort of missed. That as a child because his parents wouldn't let in his rather see that stuff while longer he had that hunger in that curiosity. And i think he also because of that is sort of kept fourteen year old boy. Alive and yeah. Hey i love you. It's so great to see you and hear from you and thank you for being on the podcast. My pleasure my careful out there will see each other at a constant. I love it interview. I really enjoy. He's just so open. And i think you know when you play a character for so long you know you can get tired of the same old questions and i try to mix it up but it's so iconic and my friends and i. We actually sat down and watched all the nightmare on elm street's. Yeah it was a good time. It was a good time. They're not all good. I'll tell you that was a lot of them. They can't all be no they can't be there's a. There's a couple of them that i really liked but Dream warriors was my favorite. The first one dream warriors was really good but Thank you robert. England for coming on the podcast meant a lot to me and i Considered an old friend and Yeah if you enjoy that stick around. Please subscribe to the podcast. 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Friday 10/25/19 - Haunted House Owner Part II

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Friday 10/25/19 - Haunted House Owner Part II

"I on Friday October Twenty Fifth Chicago Dog Walk Listening yesterday you heard Parwan this is part two with Kyle and John from Zombie Army productions they produce Hell's gate and states haunted prison so yeah let's just operated apart to go listen apart one if you didn't get to it all right let's roll him at how often how like communist shooting or you know like pissing their pants title afterwards to Kyle John Zombie army production take so much for comedy as for today everybody will cut you next time doesn't have enough money for a ticket for herself but I really WanNa go in and then they'd tag along and I've walked through the entire haunted house and pretend like I was getting scared the whole time and then good what's what's something that used to fly back in the day that you can't do anymore like like coffins claustrophobia things like is that like no go for the the problem that was one of my first jobs I'd go up and John would use me to go up to like a nice young family or other famous now go up and say my mommy young children like Kyle used to be they can't control themselves and they violently attack us it was a gag that works so well yeah that was that was bad so by can't happen you know Mama Bear's syndrome really what happens is these people that are protecting classroom John would set me up and have this killer climb with a chainsaw rip me from this mother and her family and pulled me into the haunted house while we call it planting roll thing that has grown out of Halloween I mean this is a very American thing these haunted houses I love the idea that it goes hand in hand with fall and and scary movies yeah you can do a real production around and why you know why do I think there's something really great about this kind of American culture you know people who think that they're tough guys watching someone in a costume it happens but we have a rule we will not touch customers man we are there to scare you there to entertain we are not there to violate you Gotcha and if you found out that there was like a is this possible to do year round here like have you ever thought about that the entire show I got these nine year old little children working for me then the people get even even more violent than they go after the nine year old I got it actress got pissed on money though yeah that's what she was sitting down and we have a rule don't sit down if she didn't Saddam and she would never been within pissing news regular like that the kids all get like badges of honour when they piss but pooping I don't understand it never appeaing aim near the top yeah no it's unfortunate that we've had people come out on stretchers of course that goes to the yeah no I mean we of course we'll take it you know sometimes it happens unruly guests or cowards I guess and get your money back but nobody ever can find house we get your money back house gate you can actually win your money back if you find the key to help get your ticket is free how many 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Urban Legends

American Hysteria

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Urban Legends

"On this season we'll be covering our vehicles of hysteria. How pop culture in the media shape our psychology in society. And how our national mythologies manipulate the realities we share and sometimes the realities. We don't i'm your host chelsea weber smith and this is american history are the legends. We've all heard the stories. We've all told. Don't alert the driver with a courtesy flash because it could be a new gang member blanca deadly initiation game but sure they're going to be afraid of fires and drowning and strangers. But why did they have to live with this fear that somebody's going to chop them up and eat them. Uh scary stories. to tell in. The dark was far more than a horror book. Series made for eight to twelve year olds. Scary stories to tell in the dark was a pilgrimage. Site of old and holy scrolls something that scared and fascinated us kids in an almost ancient way in the elementary school libraries of the mid two thousands. The wait time to check out a copy could be weeks months and anyone in possession of a copy became a darkly enchanting sage a little bit divine and of course your new best friend. The uncanny art of stephen gammel was like nothing we had ever seen. The wispy other-worldly nightmarish ink. Drawings that are probably still seared into some of your memories today but beyond that eerie invitation of this chilling cover art. The horror stories themselves waited matter-of-factly told to us straight up by a folklorist named alvin. Schwartz and many of those stories were drawn from popular american urban legends. That had been going around for at least the last fifty years. The really interesting thing is that some of the stories in those books or stories that i'd already heard ones that the teller told me had really happened to a friend of a friend or maybe a friend of a friend of a friend. I recently found the copy that my parents mercifully bought me at the scholastic book fair around nineteen ninety five the one with the horrific skull growing out of a field smoking a pipe. The first in the series published in nineteen eighty one. It's creased to shit and wrinkled and watermarked and it was hidden under a stack of books as if waiting for me like a buried revelation and it was a revelation for me all those years ago. Just as much an influence on american hysteria. Anything else has ever been coming years before my introduction to urban legends drunk uncle conspiracy theories that episode our season. Four finale will be a little bit different than usual a little meta about my own long love affair with what are sometimes called contemporary myths and the scholars and artists. Who helped me understand that. Some of my favorite stories. Some of the ones. I couldn't help but pass on. Were just too good or just too bad to be true now. I would like to tell you my favorite legend from this book so meet me out in the woods at midnight and take a seat on whatever boulder log. You can find around this roaring campfire so one night. A few years ago like two towns over my cousin's fran read all about it in the newspaper. This girl is babysitting and it's like nine. Pm and the kids are still up and they're all watching tv together and then all of a sudden the phone rings the babysitter picks it up and says hello and she hears what sounds like a man breathing and then he bursts into this maniacal strange laughter and then hangs up of course. The babysitter has creeped out but she kinda just shakes it off keeps watching. Tv with the kids then about a half hour later the phone rings again. She picks it up and says hello and she hears the same man breathing then he laughs again in hangs up. So she's getting more freaked out and the kids are also asking what's going on. And who was on the phone. And she says it was some nutcase and they keep watching tv and then another half hour goes by and she gets another call and this time the man says just one more hour now and laughs and hangs up so at this point the babysitter is getting a little freaked out so she goes around and makes sure that all of the windows and doors are locked and then sits back down with the kids and keeps watching tv then another call and he says just one half hour and laughs and hangs up so at this point she's like i'm gonna call the operator and see if there's anything that she can do so she does in the operator tells her to call her back if she gets another call and she'll try to trace it and sure enough a half hour later she gets another call in its him. Knee says very soon now laughs and hangs up so she immediately calls the operator and then the operator immediately calls her back and she tells her and she's all frantic. The call is coming from inside the house from a phone upstairs. She says just get out of the house. I've already phoned the police so the babysitter gets the kids. Just as they're running outside the upstairs door opens and a man that they've never seen starts walking down the stairs toward them with a very strange smile on his face and as they're standing in the driveway and he's getting closer sirens are blaring and the police were all up and they stop him and arrest. And i don't know hey chelsea. Listen start interrupt. But i've got a better story than that and this one actually happened. My sister is Old co worker told me this one so they were driving in a car late at night and all of a sudden they notice that. There's this red pickup truck that keeps pulling up behind them with its high beams on super bright crazy distracting and then they just turn off and so she starts getting paranoid this person's in the back and they just keep flashing the high beams and shutting. 'em back off again. It's like they're following her harassing her or something so anyway. She eventually turns. She's on her way home and she decides to take a route. She's not gonna take main roads so she starts pulling onto all of us like old industrial roads two kinds of roads. That don't even really have names. They're called like you know. Turn turn left onto a road one that kind of thing but the truck keeps following her and again it keeps flashing the high beams for awhile and then just turning them right back off again so she eventually gets home. The truck is still right behind her pulls up behind her in her own driveway and so she doesn't know who this person might be. They might be trying to killer. Who knows so. She pulls into the driveway puts on the break runs out of the car back into the house before the person can get to them but the driver of the red truck steps out of the car justice. She's getting in a front door and shouts after her. Hey lady there's someone in your back seat. Turns out that the driver of the red pickup truck every time they flash their high beams because there was this guy in the back seat of the woman's car with an axe and every time that they crept up behind her the driver of the red truck would flash the high beams to get the guy deduct back down the call the police and they found the guy hiding behind the driver's seat about that. I didn't get back to your show. I guess sorry if you haven't heard these stories before in one form or another maybe you'll remember the one about the spider bite on the cheek of the girl that grew into a boil and burst into a swarm of black spiders from the eggs that had been laid in her wound. Knife field definitely remember the story of the couple making out on lovers lane only to barely escape a one handed maniac his hook found hanging from the door handle the car. Parent-teachers in seattle suburb will vote next week on a planned a band three books from an elementary school library. Those who want to get rid of the book say they're just too gruesome for young readers. Debate broke out here over. Death the devil and dismemberment topic stemming from three thin books of folklore called the scary stories by alvin schwartz. Sure they're going to be afraid of fires and drowning and strangers. But why do they have to live with this fear that somebody's going to chop them up and eat them. Clutching parents and horrible organizations like concerned women for america would continue to try to take away everything that we love causing the scary stories to tell in the dark book series to become the most challenged for library inclusion from nineteen ninety all the way to nineteen ninety nine. But i'm willing to bet my bottom dollar that these same outraged parents of the nineteen nineties. We're passing on far more frightening. Urban legends about gang initiation murder rituals about halloween candy poisoners about temporary tattoos of cartoon characters soaked in acid about dogs choking on severed fingers about men lying under women's cars at the mall waiting to slice their aquiles. He'll and steal their purse. Remember that one and as we know adult urban legends definitely still exist and they burn across social media as if they're verifiable facts and are often picked up by the local news. Let's listen now. Oppose says that a woman came out of a store after shopping defined zip ties around her windshield wipers. It goes on to say that human traffickers kidnapped people while they're trying to get zip ties off a facebook post calling out. A problem on snapchat is quickly gaining attention. The post claiming random accounts are adding girls on snapchat. I sex trafficking now. The most common claim is that an anonymous text message. Many report receiving is actually linked to a sex trafficking side. the puts a track. Run your phone. The woman in her children were trick or treating around here and when her daughter started to tear into her candy. She says she found a small metal. Blade user star communicating with momo on facebook. Or what's app. They're given a series of tasks to finally meet the momo the momo intimidates in threatens those who don't follow it's instructions in the final challenge can be anywhere from harming to killing yourself. It's starting in junior high and they're very popular now. They're oral sex parties in which each girl is given a different color lipstick and the boys go round and receive oral sex from all the girls with the different lipstick. So then they end up with rings of lipstick around their penis and the guy with the most rainbow colored on his wins. None of these are true. By the way they've all been debunked and labeled as contemporary myths. But it worked for one man and all. The scholars came before and after him. I have to wonder how much more difficult it would be now to identify them. Another landmark book in the study of legends came out the very same year as the first scary stories to tell him that dark. It's called the vanishing hitchhiker in. It's by one of my heroes yawn herald brunen von. Who was also a major influence on alvin. Schwartz's work this book was not a straight retelling of each of these myths as alvin was but instead an investigation into their origins their themes and their history in order to understand the phenomenon of urban legends as a whole yawn would work with his folklore students to collect both published and private accounts through conversations and letters written in white yawn and his students were able to produce was a kind of compendium of contemporary legends. And then he started pumping out the hits books that proved to be far more popular than would have been expected leading some academics critique his work as to pop and not academic enough which is so typical but this accessible writing would grant him the honorable nickname of mr urban legend and would garner him talk. Show appearances including a reoccurring spot on the david letterman show. He would be dubbed by one critic quote the legend scholar with the greatest influence on twentieth century media. They are the legends. We've all heard the stories. We've all told the tales we've all listened to but just because it never happened doesn't mean it never will though i wasn't familiar with yon brune. Vons work as a kid. His collected admits would help inspire one of my favorite horror movies of all time. The nineteen ninety eight college slasher urban legend written by silvio horta and directed by jamie blanks. It was a typical meta horror film of the time addressing urban legends in a similar manner to house scream addressed the archetypal slasher with a dash of self aware satire. It's a campy rahm through all the greatest hits pop rocks and pepsi. Exploding your stomach. The killer in the back seat. The roommate staff the boyfriend's death the kidney heist and the headlight gang initiation ritual in the movie the trendy young cast including jared leto. Joshua jackson and terror read wanted. A joy are attending college. Folklore course taught by robert england aka the original freddie krueger who gives dramatic and passionate lectures on the rich topic of urban legends. Debunking all details. The students long held as morbid fact. Oh captain my captain. But then these gruesome myths. Actually start to happen in real life. And as our protagonist says quote. It's like someone out. There is taking all these stories and making them reality. This movie was the first time. I really got it that i understood urban legends. That i understood. Why some of the tales in scary stories to tell in the dark were so familiar but there was another one that i had heard that was not accounted for in either the books or the movie a mystery that sounded too good to be true one that remained unexplained. That is until now more after this. Okay if you are a wine lover you need to listen to me right now. If you're like me and you're shopping for wine. You might get a little overwhelmed at all of the choices that i got good news you can check out i leaf. It's a better way to discover why you love or a fraction of the price you'll find in a grocery store like sixty percent off so what you do with i leaf. Is you take an online quiz about the types of wine that you like and once you get them you can report back about what you did and didn't like and they'll use that information to deliver you lines accurate to your taste and it really works. I'm shocked at how much i like this wine. So save time. Money and stress with i leaf the wine club designed with you in mind. Joined today and you'll get your six bottles of wine for just twenty nine ninety five and free shipping. Just go to try. i leaf dot com slash hysteria. And you wanna give me that credit right so remember the code. That's six bottles of good wine for twenty nine ninety. Five and free shipping at try firstly dot com slash hysteria. When i was growing up my mom told me a sensational story. One that head allegedly happened in her east coast town when she was ten years old. And so i asked her to tell us a little bit of that story as she remembers it. I remember it being nineteen seventy two and we were living in maryland at heather hill. Apartments and i had a good friend. Her name may or may not have been denise and we used to walk to school and one day. We walked to school. And i going to spend the night with her that night and she said to me. Have you heard about the bunny nan. And she told me that he had murdered people. Numerous people and that he would dress in a bunny outfit and he would murder them with a hatchet so we were freaked out and the whole school knew about it and they were all freaked out so that night. I spent the night with denise and whoever other friend was and we went outside and played and you know it was getting dark and it was. We were scared to death but we also like thrilled thrilled at the possibility that there could be a bunny man's citing and you know that's all i remember but it was a big topic of conversation at school for weeks and weeks and weeks around the same time when he was a teenager in fairfax county. Virginia historian and archivist named brian. A conley also heard the story of the bunny man. while sitting around a campfire. It creeped to out enough to keep him out of the woods but it went dormant in his imagination for almost fifteen years until college when he took a job at the fairfax county public library. One day a woman asked him to help her find information onto local murders in which children had apparently been hanged from her bridge. By a hermit. Punishing them for trespassing. The last bit of information that she had was that the man had perhaps escaped from prison or escaped from an insane asylum and was always wearing what appeared to be a bunny suit. Brian immediately recall the story of the bunny man that he'd told when he was young but he still figured it to just be a local boogeyman story meant to scare misbehaving children. He almost forgot about the rumors again. But in fact he couldn't because all through the nineteen nineties. People were talking about this floppy eared. Saco path about the county's alleged roster of missing children about dead bodies hung from bridges and rabbits turned inside out fox even included the location in their prime time special. That i'm certain. I must have watched scariest places on earth with a statement called terror on the bunny mansbridge. This bridge was a huge fixture in the story. And it's actually called the colchester. Pass the location of many supposed murders and the subsequent paranormal activity. The locals had become angry about it. As teens partied there and spray painted profanities tried to scare each other with pranks and probably did what was assumed to be a colt shit. The rural community would actually get the cops to set up a checkpoint before the bridge that halloween not allowing anyone to get near the site and each person that tried to reach that bridge and came from the next state over brought along with them their own lurid lor personalized versions of the story from their own research on early internet message boards some told of that escaped inmate or patient that was prowling the area eating rabbits raw and then hanging there insight out corpses from trees and then eventually killing in hanging a local man from the tree and then eventually several children from the bridge. Brian conley living in the heart of all of this must have reached a curiosity tipping point and committed himself to the bunny man legend and being the archivist. He was began digging up. He could to find the source of the story. When he was young the victims were at most two local kids and now some claimed up to thirty two murders could be traced to this bunny man then bryan found a website called castle of spirits in nineteen ninety nine in which the author claimed that a group of patients from the local insane asylum had indeed broken out and then one killed another and then that killer became the bunny. Man leading to the gruesome deaths of several local people and this site was complete with names dates locations in dare to visit the clifton town library. Where all of this could apparently be verified. But not so said brian. Conley king of the archives and he easily deep deepened all of it and then he in those who. He was working with researched every murder. They could find throughout the local area from eighteen. Seventy two all the way to nineteen seventy-three. When the legend first became well established they found no mention of bunnies or anything that meaningfully resembled the bunny man urban legend and then that was it. The trail pretty much went cold but then one day he was casually looking at some collected accounts about the bunny man. Legend from the maryland folklore five and he noticed that nineteen seventy was one. One student claimed that they had. I heard the tale. And then eureka. The two incidents that most likely ignited. The legend appeared to have happened in october. Nineteen seventy in burke. Virginia ten days apart with reports of attacks or threats from a man wearing a bunny suit and wielding a hatchet. The i was an account actually printed by the washington post in the days before we lean titled man in bunny suit sought in fairfax. It was about an air force cadet. Who claimed he and his fiancee were parked along a rural road to visit an uncle. When suddenly the front passenger side window was smashed by a man wearing a white bunny suit with long ears who yelled property and after they drove away they found the implement used to attack them a hatchet. On the floor of their car allegedly during police questioning the fiance of the cadet gave a different account. She said that the man wasn't wearing a bunny suit but that he was wearing something that kind of looked like a pillowcase over his head or possibly a white hood the second report came from a security guard who confronted a man standing on the porch of a half-built home at a construction site who the guard said was wearing a black white and grey bunny suit and was chopping the railing with an axe calling out. You trespassing if you come any closer all chop your head off as the local media as well as the washington post began spreading these stories headlines like bunny man seen and bunny reports are multiplying alleged. That in just a few weeks there had been over fifty sightings and many said. He was coming after children. This was right around the time. When my mom began hearing the story and decades later the bunny man myth would still survive that thorough. Debunking work of brian conley. Excellent work brian. And by two thousand eleven there would be a low budget. Horror movie called. Bunny may these sensational local legends exist in towns all over the country. They're relatively harmless. And some psychologists believe them to be beneficial another way for young people to explore their real fears through myth making but of course once the parents get their mitts on something we love. It gets fucked up real fast before the internet and social media. Urban legends were spread through faxes or photocopies of flyers facts lore photocopy lore or xerox lore as it was first coined in the late seventies by michael j. preston many of the faxes were like the emails. You're older family. Members might send jokes anecdotes poems cartoons or chain letters that threaten you with death or some other terrible luck if you don't pass it on to ten of your friends but just as often these faxes and eventually the emails that followed were urban legends passed off as legitimate threats to the community and the ones that spread the fastest and farthest can certainly tell us quite a bit about the mindset of america at the time as a run off of reagan's war on drugs clinton's continuation of the war on crime. Put a spotlight on gangs as they became a new source of american panic and though the plethora of urban legends that surrounded gangs didn't explicitly state the perpetrators race. We know what people were imagining when they heard it. And i know what i was imagining what culture had told me to imagine even at ten years old if you drive past a car with no headlights on. Don't alert the driver with a courtesy flash because it could be a new gang member playing a deadly initiation game one that requires him to turn around and chase the good samaritan to kill him therefore completing their initiation the flashing headlights gang initiation story has been around since at least the early nineties and it felt very legitimate to parents teachers. The local news and kids to and i heard it all the time year after year. The only kernel of truth within this legend is likely related to a nineteen ninety-two shooting that took place in stockton california. A passenger writing in a local school secretaries car signaled to a group of teenagers. That their headlights were not on. Police would stay that. The teenagers thought the man was gesturing. Some kind of sign of disrespect and shot at the car. The shooters were not in a gang and the shooting had nothing to do with any initiation ritual. It was just a senseless of the moment. Tragedy and two teenagers were convicted of murder as he added this new contemporary myth to his growing collection. Mr urban legend yawn brune von understood. These stories did not and could not stand outside the confines of american culture and politics in fact they could sometimes express the worst parts of our own prejudice and he shared those findings in his book. The choking doberman published in nineteen eighty-four like most legends. The choking doberman exists in many different variations. But here's the most common telling so this man has to leave his wife alone while he goes on a business trip and he's nervous because there's been this rash of break-ins all over the area so he gets a guard dog for her daughter mun to protect her from this maniac. Who's on the loose and then the next night. She's coming home after doing some errands. And she opens the door to see the dog choking like really choking on something so she puts the dog in the car and drives to the vet right away but when she gets home. There's an urgent message on her machine from the vet saying to get out of the house and that the police were on the way it turned out that when they were able to get out what the dog was choking on they found two bloody fingers totally bitten off in his throat when the cops got there a couple minutes later they found a man in the back room huddled and holding his hand and bleeding and yes. It was that dangerous intruder that the husband had been worried about. This is basic urban legend and pretty much every way and yawn. Track the story back to nineteen eighty one when it was first printed in a newspaper column and also told on the radio. He found that although the polished versions in the media removed any mention of this next part the majority of all the oral telling 's or the letters he received described the fingers found in the dog's throat as black explicitly in another variation recorded by folklore students in new mexico in one thousand nine hundred sixty four. A series of local break ins prompts a grown son to get his widowed mother a doberman named wag her as protection one that he's been training to attack an intruder when you say take him wider the very next night. When the woman was sitting in the living room she heard the sound of a window. Opening an to black fingers reached in as the man pulled himself into the room the mother yelled take him wagner and the dog attacked. Him is trained ripping the man's throat as he called out wagga wagga. This surprised her but it was too late and after he was dead she discovered that it was actually son who had blackened his hands and face to disguise himself in an attempt to steal valuables from his mother or to test the guard. Dogs training thinking that in either case he'd be able to call off the dog that he had trained while also making sure his description didn't match him at all. There's another type of urban legend that many of us have probably heard one that tells of different asian cultures using dog meat in their american restaurants stories that flare up in areas where there upticks and immigration from specific countries. Study out of stockton. California bound that the rumor spread most prolifically in nineteen eighty the same year that the area saw a notable influx of vietnamese laotians and cambodian refugees. The rumor said that dog and cat parts were being found in the garbage vietnamese. People were trying to buy pets from americans right off the street. Some reported seeing cat tails hanging out of the tops of pots in restaurant. Kitchens that year a bumper sticker was seen on a car riding around town. That said save a dog. Eat a refugee. These rumors have been debunked by both the sanitation department as well as local authorities many times in many different places in a similar manner. We can look to the aids myths that we covered in our gay agenda episode rumors of gay men infecting innocent people with hiv by leaving bloody needles in movie theater seats of bisexual 's intentionally spreading the disease to stray people as revenge for some unknowable crime. And even well let televangelist pat robertson. Take this one in san francisco some of the gay community that they want to get people so if they've got the stuff they'll have a ring you shake hands and the rings got a little thing where you cut your finger. You're really i mean. This is kind of vicious stuff which would be equivalent murder. thanks pat. it's always a pleasure. 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And i bet you are ready to safely make plans to get out of the house and do something. If that's you think about going to the theaters on may fourteenth with a friend or significant other to see the movie finding you after an ill faded audition at a prestigious new york. Music conservatory violinist. Finley sinclair travels to an irish coastal village to begin her semester studying abroad. She encounters a gregarious and persistent heartthrob movie star as romance sparks between the unlikely pair beckett ignites a journey of discovery for finley. Finding you is the perfect film. If you're looking for something to watch that's fun lighthearted and funny and who is not looking for bat so make some safe plans to bring a friend. A family member or a significant other to see finding you in theaters may fourteenth for more information or to find a theater near you visit finding you. The movie dot com. So it's two thousand eight. And i'm eating breakfast at a diner with a group of friends when i get a call for my mom which i ignored. Sorry mom and then. I got an urgent text from her. So of course i assumed someone close to me was dead so i hurried outside embraced myself for some terrible news but not so instead. She had a story to tell a wild one one so absolutely shocking that she could not wait another moment to tell me all about it. It was a story that really happened to her hairdresser friend. Or maybe or hairdressers. Friend of a friend of a friend. One who had recently been on a trip to las vegas with a few of her friends on the last night before their early flight home they all went out to a club and had a few drinks. The woman started dancing with a handsome man and they spent the evening flirting and making out until the man asked. If she might want to come home with him she definitely wanted to but her friends gave her the i and she went the responsible route lest she missed her early morning flight so they said their goodbyes and had another long kiss and he wrote down his number and then the woman went to bed and then they flew home in the morning but after a couple of days she started to develop this strange rash around her mouth that continued to get worse. Her doctor got her in right away and ransom tasks and then sent her home but just an hour later. The doctor called her back and when she returned to the hospital to fbi agents were waiting for her. They told her that the rash on her mouth could only be caused by contact with decomposing. Human flesh the woman shocked. Had no idea how this could have happened. And she racked her brain until she remembered the man from the club she gave the agents his phone number and they attained a warrant and when the waas vegas police searched his house they found that he was indeed a serial killer and indeed a cannibal and he almost certainly would have killed and eaten that woman. Had she chosen to go home with him. So my mom and i are floored right. We are hook line and sinker with absolute very unbecoming glee at this insane story. Are you sure mom yes. She swore it was true. So i hung up the phone and marched off to my now holy mission. This was a story that must be heard right now and it must be told right so i sat down and rudely stopped all conversation at the table with my insistence that everybody listen to me right now. This is more important than anything you could possibly be talking about. And i it i mean i really sold it. I told the shit out of that story. But when i was finished something far more amazing happened. Something profound someone at the table. Said i think something like that happened to someone. My mom's friend knew a few years ago and then click freaking ding ding ding there. It was writ large in lights on the marquee. A living breathing urban legend right. They're using me little old me as a divine conduit. Sure enough. I went on the debunking cites notes later that day and there it was our story all completely debunked. I was over. -joyed i'd watched the entire cycle play out in real time. It was three league one of the main reasons if not the main reason that we love urban legends is that humans are biologically wired to love engaging stories both hearing them and telling them and in fact we get a little flood of dopamine. If it's all juicy enough not only that but at twenty ten study out of princeton university found a neuro scientific connection between the storyteller and those who are listening to the story unfold. The study used twelve participants. Who listened to a fifteen minute species. Bisi story told by a graduate student off the cuff about the disaster. That was her senior prom. Complete with a fistfight. The researchers recorded brain waves of both the storyteller and her audience and discover that the listeners brainwaves began to mirror the speakers almost exactly almost as one mind or within a mind meld. As news outlets have often referred to these findings this study just reinforces what we all experience implicitly. The super power of a well told story and the bond that group rapt with attention can share stories. Also keep us safe. We're actually wired to pay even closer attention to the scary stories and we believe them more easily because as gatherers we had to believe in the risks that we were told by people from our community lest we end up prey to a nearby predator or attacked by a rival group or poisoned by an unsafe plant. Our narratives determine everything humans. Think feel and do and we need desperately to try to order the chaos of the universe to understand life and death to find a way to feel secure enough to go on living in a great unknowable mystery. Because of this there is a gold mine of fear inside. All of and those who are kept in fear are always the easiest to exploit when you control the stories that people believe the stories that people then tell you can control. They're very reality. You can become super fucking rich. Powerful and famous and so reality making is a flourishing market throughout this season we've seen how public relations marketing is based in the manipulation of our deepest emotions through corporate psychotherapy. That makes us by shit. We don't need. We've seen how sensational publications and shows make us believe that will be victim at any time. And we've seen the harm that can come to innocent people that we designate as dangerous to try to protect ourselves. We've seen how religious and political myths have long made narcissistic people into god's those who make groups from ten to a hundred million into true devotees while they turn everyone else into legendary blood drinking demons we've seen the elite progressive eugenics movement tell stories about utopia about what kind of people deserve to make it there. We've seen how conservative televangelists have manufactured outrage to increase their political power and pushes secret racist agenda. We've also seen how our mickey mouse history has sweetened the sins of our past but most relevant to the end of our season. We've seen how people can get rich off of outrage by making up stories hand tailored to keep us frightened angry and ready for revenge against each other because the best way to keep an increase power is to make us all hate each other as much as humanly possible. There is so much money to be made in a war. The collateral damage of this greed has been enormous catastrophic with each new horror story of the last five years. Propped up by fantastical myth making by stories by lies. Families and friendships have been torn. Apart through manufactured irreconcilable differences in our very realities. They will use any group that they've designated as others as a point of outrage in fear to distract us a slight of hand so we won't see what their other hand is really doing and instead will look at each other. The planter class did this way back in the sixteen hundreds when enslaved black people and white indentured servants realized the power. They actually had against their exploiters when they joined together and their allegiance grew strong. As the revolts began. Against the plantation owners politicians began to spread urban legends and conspiracy theories about evil bloodthirsty black people and their secret plans against the whites but most of all they told the story of race. They made the white indentured servants feel superior not by virtue of their class but by virtue of the color of their skin. Different stories like this have been told about all our cultural others. Since the tales of children kidnapped by satanic indigenous strangers. They are brilliant devastating lies that have always worked because we're all raised with these ugly stories to different degrees and they become a part of us. We're all raised with all kinds of untrue. Stories inherited from the people who raised us who were themselves raised to believe untrue. Things as were the people that raised them over the last few months of making this season. I've tried to remind myself continuously of who our american boogeyman really are. I've tried remind myself that there's a difference between those who pass on these sensational stories that they actually genuinely believed to be true. And those who exploit or even manufacture the lies for selfish reasons our media moguls and they're talking heads. Our rich politicians our pop culture. Provocateurs are slimy preachers shadowy billionaires. And so on. Do i sound like a conspiracy theorist yet but even our wealthy super villains of today are still animated by the national stories of america of superiority of the american dream of the urban legend of the american prosperity gospel. That tells them they deserve it. All and that the poor deserve poverty to they all die eventually but the stories that gave them power still live on in the systemic problems that have been created and crafted over centuries american hysteria. His taught me again. And again that the belief in conspiracy theories corresponds with the perceived feeling of powerlessness and it gives the believer something simple to fight for an often spiritual battle against evil in the name of some version of good no matter how misguided it may be it creates a structure no matter how nefarious and that be comforting because it beats the alternative awareness of chaos. It makes you feel a part of something bigger and it creates community around a shared goal. It also beats overwhelming realization of the tragically complicated and gnarled mess that we have no concrete idea of how to fix. It was about five years ago when i first picked up a copy of yawn. Brune vons seminal investigation into urban legends. I was in new orleans. And i have a very vivid memory of opening it for the first time in a hot tub. After all the people. I was staying with had gone to bed as i dog. Eared the pages and find passages. The paper began to wrinkle from the steam and it quickly started to look like my copy of scary stories to tell in the dark. I knew that yawns work was big and this book lit up. My blood like those scary stories did almost twenty years before i had been slowly coming out of a lifelong issue of believing in fantastical stories far beyond my favorite urban legends. I was hanging out with their drunk uncle as i've talked about. I have my own history of falling for embarrassing conspiracy theories in ways that are still hard to continue to admit. I understand believing the sensational. I understand the almost planetary poll of these stories that fight for good for some kind of revolution to try to save everyone from the evil forces that hurt the world that i love though the mythology was different. When i was a believer. I was ready for that clear cut simplistic spiritual revolution. The truth is that. I'm just lucky that i never went too far but listen i just as easily could have now to be clear. Everyone is responsible for the actions they take but in the end. Are we always responsible for the stories. We believe if i hadn't stumbled into the folkloric work of alvin schwartz and yawn bruno von and silvio horta and brian a conley. I don't know if i would have had the skills to one day. Leave it all behind to trade one story of reality for another to make the difficult choice to diss believe. Of course every part of me wants to say that it is stories the will also be the thing that finally saves us that one beautiful night we will all sit down and share our uniquely tragic and redemptive life stories around some final campfire. That one day we will truly hear the pain and love that animates each other. With all the myths we were told tenderly debunked. I also wanna say that one day we will get back to the people we love and they will get back to us to. I wanna say that through our stories we will find that one. Mind that mind meld that those scientists talked about and then we will finally understand. We will know what to do. But i won't sit here and pass on a story anymore. When i don't know if it's true and so now all i can do is remind myself again that there is a difference between a legend and a lie. Just as our protagonist in urban legend. Said it's like someone out. There is taking all these stories and making them reality. There has always been a sadistic man with a hatchet in the back seat of america's car no matter how many times any of us try to wash our high beams across him. He's always able to duck back down and out of sight. I hope that a day will come when we pull our beat up pickup truck into the driveway behind the car. High beams blaring revealing the hidden villain suddenly for all that he is and revealing that the villains may not be who we think we look out our curtains into the darkness for the madman but the call is coming from inside the house from our. Tv's social media and radios. And yes inside us. All in the destructive stories that we have unknowingly carried on for centuries crafted lies grow in the makeup face is of news anchors and provocateurs and politicians until a thousand black spiders come pouring from their cheeks. It's their fingers coming through the cracks in our windows at night but they'll paint them a different color so you think it's someone else. Each day they will fill this candy apple america with a new razor blade. And then they'll tell you it was a dangerous neighbor down the block. They'll tell you that it's true they'll tell you that it happened just like that. They will swear it. This was american hysteria. 's season. Four finale thank you all so much for your support. Throughout this unprecedented year it continues to means so much to our team and it really keeps us going. Don't worry we'll still be around this summer. Giving you the strange and important news stories that we find and potentially some things a little out of the box there are also some exciting new projects. Were hoping to have a little more time to work on. Will definitely be keeping you in the loop there. American hysteria is written produced and hosted by me whatever. The gender neutral term for mr urban legend is chelsea weber. Smith sound design by our creative and precious. Mr rod rodriguez of clear kamo studios speaking of storytelling. You should certainly check out rods. Podcast military matter. Our show is co researched and written by the very thorough and thoughtful. Reilly smith co produced and edited by the very nuanced and astute miranda zickler. 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