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"robert e lee" Discussed on WABE 90.1 FM

WABE 90.1 FM

02:50 min | 3 months ago

"robert e lee" Discussed on WABE 90.1 FM

"Point. And that's where a statue of Robert E. Lee once stood for almost a century. Today, it's just a patch of dead grass But 5 years ago, it was still up, and it triggered a conflagration that turned deadly In August 2017, a plan to take down the statue is what brought white supremacists to Charlottesville in the first place. And now, even though it's gone from the park, where the least statue eventually ends up remains contested. Here's how we got here. For nearly a hundred years, a bronze statue of Robert E. Lee on his horse stood 26 feet high. It was dedicated in 1924 at a confederate heritage event, where Lee was declared a stainless leader of a stainless cause. By this point, the so called lost cause propaganda narrative had taken hold across the south. Jeanne Schmidt walks us through this period. She's a professor at the University of Virginia, and part of the effort to remove the statue. At the time of the Civil War, over half of the population locally was enslaved, about 14,000 people, and then another 2% were free blacks, so 54% of the population was African American. She explains that after the Civil War, Virginia passed a new constitution giving black men the right to vote. Three decades later, though, white lawmakers reversed course. They pushed through another constitution with poll taxes and literacy rules that disenfranchised most black voters. Some of them, former confederates, and certainly a confederate descendants and sympathizers called the reconstruction era constitution the N word constitution. We're getting rid of the N word constitution and Negro rule and now we're finally reasserting Virginia values. We were replaced. I mean, there's that word. Again, you know, and but now reinstalling ourselves. And the first wave of confederate statues went up in cemeteries. But then these statues start migrating out from the graveyards and two the public square, where they are just trumpeting a message of triumph that we have in 1909, the first confederate statue put up in downtown Charlottesville in front of the courthouse. It's one of these standard issue mass produced confederate soldier, statues there, you know, on the courthouse lawn, kind of announcing to anyone approaching the courthouse, what kind of justice you're going to be getting. The effort to remove confederate statues picked up steam in the last 6 years. A culmination of a long debate in and around Charlottesville that is still going. Here's local resident Sean Parker, who is black. Once I got educated about it, I actually felt offended because it reminded me of a time where people like me and looked like me was

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"robert e lee" Discussed on The Dinesh D'Souza Podcast

The Dinesh D'Souza Podcast

07:18 min | 10 months ago

"robert e lee" Discussed on The Dinesh D'Souza Podcast

"She would have given me the red alert. Don't do this, but happily, having done it, I came through with it not only okay, but in some ways better than ever. Our final question concerns the enigmatic genius of Robert E. Lee. Listen. A high dinesh, I just listened to your episode one 29 in which you stated that you thought that Robert E. Lee was one of the best journals of all time. I wanted to bring your attention to a book called lost victories the military genius of Stonewall Jackson by Bevin Alexander. He makes a compelling argument that Stonewall Jackson while he was in the Shenandoah campaign. He separately fought three different union armies and defeated all three of them, and then he joined Robert E. Lee's staff and Robert Lee hadn't doing too good before that. But he was really impressed with Stonewall Jackson and listened to his counsel and followed his advice, and that's where all the victories came from. So I really it's just a well researched excellent written book and I hope you have time to take a look at it. Take care. This is fascinating. And my answer is not really going to disagree so much is to try to fill out the argument that I think you're making. A couple of words about Stonewall Jackson. Stonewall Jackson, this is, by the way, general Joseph Jackson, a great military tactician, a strange man, apparently he was highly superstitious he believed that when he wrote a horse, he needed to keep his keep one of his arms outstretched to the side in order to sort of maintain his spiritual balance. He was unrelenting, he was merciless. He was once asked, what should we do with the Yankees and his answer was kill them all, kill them all. And he inspired unswerving military loyalty from his troops, he would send people to into grave danger and in some cases almost certain death, and they would, without questioning his orders, carry them out. So this was obviously a very charismatic man and, as you say, in the Shenandoah valley, he was able to move from point to point, take on different segments of the Union Army thrashed them and move to another spot and do exactly the same thing. And you also write that Robert E. Lee saw him as indispensable when stonewalling Jackson was eventually killed. I believe Robert E. Lee said literally something to the effect of I've lost my. I've lost my right arm. So all of this I think is true, and it raises the question of where then is the military genius of Robert E. Lee? Well, part of it is you actually pointed out yourself when you said that Lee recognized the tactical wisdom of Stonewall Jackson. Remember, that's part of what a general does, right? Part of what made Eisenhower a good general was Eisenhower recognized, for example, at a time when many people were ridiculing patent they thought Patton was crazy, Patton was out of control. Let's reign patent in, Eisenhower's like, no, this is a guy who knows how to kill the Nazis. And so what Eisenhower did was he deployed patent to maximum effect. Having mentioned Patton, I think I would compare Robert E. Lee to the great German general Erwin Rommel. Rommel was obviously fighting on the wrong side on a bad side, and I would say that Rommel was a good man who fought in a bad cause, same with Robert E. Lee. He was a good man who was fighting in a bad cause. Now Robert E. Lee wasn't fighting to defend slavery. He was actually opposed to slavery. He inherited some slaves on his wife's side, but he wasn't a plantation guy. In fact, his whole career was in the military, he went to West Point, he became a big star in West Point, Lincoln offered him the command of the Union Army, which he turned down, so this is Robert E. Lee. And you can be a great general even if you ultimately lose, and why did Robert E. Lee elus? He lost because he was outnumbered. I mean, the Union Army was much bigger than the army of Northern Virginia and in fact, the north was much bigger than the confederacy. Not only was the north bigger in terms of population, but the north also had all the ammunition factories, the north had all the industrial potential, the north was able to build better roads and create infrastructure for the army to operate in. So the south was fighting at a tremendous disadvantage. Part of the genius of Robert E. Lee was to recognize the only way that the war could be won. Now, for a lot of the confederate leaders, Jefferson Davis primary among them, they were hoping that the way that the south could prevail is that Britain and the European powers would come and fight or join and support the southern side. And of course, Britain was dependent on southern cotton, the textile mills of Manchester ran on confederate cotton, and so Britain had an economic interest in supporting the south but there had just been a huge antislavery movement in Britain, Britain had abolished the slave trade. It was very difficult for Britain to decide with the side. In this case, the south that was seen as the side championing slavery. So this is really what kept the British out of the war that Robert E. Lee knew this. He knew that the south was not going to get the support of Europe and the only way to win the war was actually to divide the north. Robert E. Lee was counting on Democrats in the north to undercut Lincoln and ultimately to defeat Lincoln in the 1864 election. And you know what? They almost did. They almost did to the point where Lincoln himself was virtually convinced he was going to lose the election, and it was only huge military victories in Atlanta by grant and by Sherman that turned the tide of the war, turned the tide of public opinion, Lincoln was reelected and not sealed the fate of the confederacy. But Robert E. Lee knew that if I can somehow pry the north into two, if I can somehow break the will of the north, this by the way is why Robert Lee was constantly planning campaigns. I'm going to invade Maryland. I'm going to invade Pennsylvania. I'm going to bring the war to the north because he knew that in the end wars are one not just by the proportion of actual force on the two sides, but by the proportion of actual force multiplied by that unknown factor that X Factor, which is military will. And Lee's strategy was to try to undermine the will of the north and in doing so give the chance, give the south, its only chance, maybe a fragile chance, what turned out to be ultimately an ephemeral chance that evaporated evaporated a Gettysburg evaporated with Lincoln's victory in 1864, but the genius of Robert E. Lee's that even though he failed, he saw a path to victory and he tried. Subscribe to the dinesh de Sousa podcast on Apple Google and Spotify or watch on rumble YouTube and Salem now dot com..

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The Enigmatic Genius of Robert E. Lee

The Dinesh D'Souza Podcast

02:52 min | 10 months ago

The Enigmatic Genius of Robert E. Lee

"Our final question concerns the enigmatic genius of Robert E. Lee. Listen. A high dinesh, I just listened to your episode one 29 in which you stated that you thought that Robert E. Lee was one of the best journals of all time. I wanted to bring your attention to a book called lost victories the military genius of Stonewall Jackson by Bevin Alexander. He makes a compelling argument that Stonewall Jackson while he was in the Shenandoah campaign. He separately fought three different union armies and defeated all three of them, and then he joined Robert E. Lee's staff and Robert Lee hadn't doing too good before that. But he was really impressed with Stonewall Jackson and listened to his counsel and followed his advice, and that's where all the victories came from. So I really it's just a well researched excellent written book and I hope you have time to take a look at it. Take care. This is fascinating. And my answer is not really going to disagree so much is to try to fill out the argument that I think you're making. A couple of words about Stonewall Jackson. Stonewall Jackson, this is, by the way, general Joseph Jackson, a great military tactician, a strange man, apparently he was highly superstitious he believed that when he wrote a horse, he needed to keep his keep one of his arms outstretched to the side in order to sort of maintain his spiritual balance. He was unrelenting, he was merciless. He was once asked, what should we do with the Yankees and his answer was kill them all, kill them all. And he inspired unswerving military loyalty from his troops, he would send people to into grave danger and in some cases almost certain death, and they would, without questioning his orders, carry them out. So this was obviously a very charismatic man and, as you say, in the Shenandoah valley, he was able to move from point to point, take on different segments of the Union Army thrashed them and move to another spot and do exactly the same thing. And you also write that Robert E. Lee saw him as indispensable when stonewalling Jackson was eventually killed. I believe Robert E. Lee said literally something to the effect of I've lost my. I've lost my right arm. So all of this I think is true, and it raises the question of where then is the military genius of Robert E. Lee? Well, part of it is you actually pointed out yourself when you said that Lee recognized the tactical wisdom of Stonewall Jackson. Remember, that's part of what a general

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"robert e lee" Discussed on WNYC 93.9 FM

WNYC 93.9 FM

02:21 min | 11 months ago

"robert e lee" Discussed on WNYC 93.9 FM

"Has imposed fines on several local governments for removing or relocating confederate statues including Birmingham and mobile As attorney general my job is to enforce the law as it is And in less than until the last lights are changed we're going to continue to do that Virginia's legislature has since revoked its monument protection law clearing the way for one of the more creative approaches to repurposing a divisive symbol Charlottesville this summer took down the Robert E. Lee statue that had been the focal point for white nationalists The city is not putting the giant bronze in a museum or on a battlefield but has given it to the Jefferson school African American heritage center Director Andrea Douglas says it will be transformed Take the robbery Lee statue melt it down form it into that could be used as raw material for an art form The project will seek community input on what type of art the statue will be made into Can we create something that defines the community in the 21st century What does Charlottesville want to be We describe ourselves as a city that believes in equity That believes in social justice So what does that look like in a public space She says it will be about contending with all of Charlottesville's history Considering the founding of the nation slavery Jim Crow and the modern day trauma when people were killed and injured as a consequence of all trite ideology in 2017 This is really not about erasing history It's about taking history and moving it forward Douglas hopes the art project in Charlottesville can serve as a road map for other communities to reimagine what belongs in the public square Debbie Elliott NPR news.

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"robert e lee" Discussed on WTOP

WTOP

01:31 min | 11 months ago

"robert e lee" Discussed on WTOP

"Are stretching throughout the airport Some are trying to reschedule cancel flights Others are just trying to get on the plane and from fredericks has her family is trying to get to Antigua for some sun but that requires a negative test We were supposed to have our COVID testing yesterday and two people in our family the tests aren't They're not back yet She said they got tested three days ago per protocol Meanwhile nearly 3000 flights in the U.S. were canceled over Christmas weekend multiple airlines say it's because of staffing shortages due to the omicron variant At Reagan national Luke Luger WTP news So far today 8 flights have been canceled at dulles 6 at BWI Marshall Excitement in Richmond where crews working at the former Robert E. Lee monument have located the 1887 time capsule That's according to the construction company working to take apart the monuments pedestal Kate ridgway the state archeological conservator for the Virginia department of historic resources says that copper time capsule found shortly before noon weighs at least 30 pounds twice as much as a previously uncovered time capsule which was not the one referenced in historical documents She says the governor's office will coordinate capsules opening which will not take place today Coming up after traffic and weather what's in the defense policy bill that the president signed today It's four O 6 The folks at closet America say tis the season High is Chris corps Tis the season for a sale 25% off plus free installation on everything.

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"robert e lee" Discussed on KOMO

KOMO

01:30 min | 1 year ago

"robert e lee" Discussed on KOMO

"The FDA has banned hundreds of thousands of e cigarette products. But not the most popular brand. Major decision comes after a court ordered deadline requiring the F D A to review 6.5 million applications for so called new tobacco products, primarily electronic versions containing high levels of nicotine. The flavored and highly addictive products were popular among teenagers. Thursday, the FDA said it reviewed more than 90% of the millions of applications ordering nearly 950,000 products to be banned from market for public health reasons. A decision on products from the largest e cigarettes producer Jewel has been delayed. Faith a boob. ABC NEWS Washington A record for comic book debut Your Friendly Neighborhood Spider Man is moving to imagine a near mint condition copy of the first appearance of the Web slinger in 1962 Amazing fantasy number 15. Sold at auction Thursday for $3.6 million, making it the most expensive comic book sale ever previous Best to copy of Action Comics number one from 1938, which contains the first appearance of Superman and sold for 3.25 million earlier this year. The Spiderman comic originally sold for 12 cents, Jason Nathan's an ABC News Hollywood workers in Richmond, Virginia, have been using ground penetrating wait our metal detector and other equipment, but they haven't found 134 year old time capsule, which is believed to have been buried. The pedestal of a relocated statue of General Robert E. Lee. This is ABC News Comin, whose time 88 04 and traffic.

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"robert e lee" Discussed on AP News

AP News

02:04 min | 1 year ago

"robert e lee" Discussed on AP News

"General Robert E. Lee in Richmond. Why this? Civil war was fault and and why individuals like Robert E. Lee chose to to traders to the United States. The lease statue became a target of protesters who wanted to abolish simple. Officials in New York are announcing they've identified the remains of two more victims of the September 11th terrorist attacks at the World Trade Center. Just days before the 20th anniversary of the devastating attacks that killed nearly 3000 people and jolted the nation. The medical examiner's office says technicians using DNA were able to identify the remains of Dorothy Morgan of Hempstead, New York, She was a broker for Marsh and McLennan officials also determined the identity of a man whose remains were recovered in separate finds in 2000 and 1, 2000 and two and 2000 and six his family is asking the name be withheld. It's the first time in two years new identification has been made. 1100 remains are still unidentified. Even though teams are still working to match DNA to fragments found, Chief Medical examiner of New York Barbara Sampson says they pledged to do everything they can to make sure all those lost that day can be reunited with their families. I'm Jackie Quinn I Mike Rossi, a reporting Dylann roof seeks a rehearing on his church shooting conviction. Lawyers for Dylann Roof filed a petition Wednesday challenging the fourth U. S Circuit Court of Appeals confirmation of his conviction and death sentence for the 2015 racist slayings of nine members of Mother Emanuel Ame Church in Charleston, South Carolina. Attorneys for roof want the full court to consider his appeal after a three judge panel of the court unanimously upheld roofs, conviction and sentence last month. In 2017 roof, became the first defendant in the United States sentenced to death for a federal hate crime roofs. Attorneys argue he was wrongly allowed to represent himself during sentencing. I'm Mike Rossi, um Thank you for listening to the AP Radio Network. Hey, did you know that The Associated Press.

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"robert e lee" Discussed on Newsradio 1200 WOAI

Newsradio 1200 WOAI

02:22 min | 1 year ago

"robert e lee" Discussed on Newsradio 1200 WOAI

"Of Robert E. Lee that stood in Richmond, Virginia, for more than 130 years, was taken down today. Virginia Democratic Governor Ralph Northam had announced plans to remove the monument in June 2020 following the death of George Floyd in Minneapolis, but it was stalled until The state Supreme Court ruled against two lawsuits clearing the way Fox is Tanya J. Powers, The Biden administration is setting a goal to have nearly half the nation's electric power come from solar. By 2050. The New York Times reports about the administration is expected to announce it intends to increase solar energy production from around 4% to 45%. The Energy Department is calling for more solar panels and wind turbines. Ultimately, Congress will decide how much money to spend on energy reform boxes. Rachel Sutherland in Washington America's listening to Fox News Now. W O. A I local news. Private donations to fund seeking to build more miles of border wall in Texas exploded last month at the Texas Tribune Reports. Donations to the fund created by Governor Abbott in June had reached just over $1 million at the beginning of August. At the total amount of the fund was reported at 54 million As of August, 31st. Police are investigating a murder suicide that left a man and woman dead in the lobby of the downtown Houston hotel. Officers responded yesterday afternoon to the reported shooting at the Marion Marquis Houston Hotel. They say a man in his thirties fatally shot a woman in her twenties, then shot himself at the University of Texas is being sued for continuing to play at the mater song at school events like football games, the Texas chapter, the WC pieces, the song The Eyes of Texas creates a hostile environment for black students. Because minstrels in blackface, saying it about 100 years ago and carry Laki from the W O A. I traffic center construction affecting alternating lanes. Walton Road eastbound between Eisenhower and gives sprawl wrote Also a closure from construction items at Great Town Road. If you see any traffic problems called the traffic tip like 210785 26 01 I'm Ali Eren NewsRadio. 1200 w O A. I Pleasant weather ahead the next couple of days. It's going to be a little on the hot side. We'll see a mainly clear sky overnight low, dropping down to 72 sunshine for Thursday and Friday, with afternoon highs back up in the mid to upper nineties meteorologist Mark Thibodeau from the Weather Channel on San Antonio's official weather station..

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"robert e lee" Discussed on NEWS 88.7

NEWS 88.7

02:08 min | 1 year ago

"robert e lee" Discussed on NEWS 88.7

"Farmed the land at Stratford Hall, which I guess it's Claim to fame as being the birthplace of Robert E. Lee, which is an odd place for black harmony farming. But we have an opportunity to be on this landscape and to pursue black and indigenous led food sovereignty. From here. I first encountered Chris through his writing. He's been chronicling his own adventures as new entrepreneurial farmer. Who has come up against a lot of the profound hypocrisy ease in sustainable food production. And he wrote this manifesto. Clean food If you want to save the world, get over yourself. Get over yourself. Chris means that organic farmers need to be less precious about their methods they need to embrace new ways of growing healthy food. That everyone can afford. I grew up around poverty. And grew up around people who were food, insecure and who were financially secure in this movement is never going to gain traction or take off or become a mass movement. If we're not appealing beyond people who were in the luxury sector to make his food more affordable, Chris uses old and new tools to farm his farm. Is a really fascinating blend of traditional approaches the farming and technology and the more time I spent with Chris and Annie, the more I began to see what they describe as this kind of personal Wauconda this this food rich forest ecosystem. That he imagines will be managed, intended by intelligent machines by robotic harvesters. Uh, a a place where technology exists. To serve and elevate nature he has, you know, drones and electrical fences for managed grazing and cameras and software. But what he really envisions is weaving together and these old forms of Agra ecology of.

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"robert e lee" Discussed on This Day In Esoteric Political History

This Day In Esoteric Political History

04:28 min | 1 year ago

"robert e lee" Discussed on This Day In Esoteric Political History

"Now he did of eventually pardoned those confederates who have been indicted in a general pardon in december eighteen sixty eight so johnson was going out the door. He didn't run for reelection and he was just he was like let's. Let's close the books on this so to speak. And he and out of the remaining confederates who had so in eighteen sixty eight property of the was hiding trial intents and purposes now under the fourteenth amendment there was one remaining disability under section three of the fourteenth amendment which met robert. He couldn't hold Federal office now. That was struck down in eighteen. Ninety eight but lee had been s- deceased right so these congress people in nineteen seventy five or saying well this disability out there still exists for robbery leads so we need to take care of that so he can have fleet citizenship restored so an the congress kept saying so. Let me get this straight so. We want to give him the right to hold office. He's got to have a yes. Yes actually we will dig him out. Which your whole who for him. No i actually. That's he's dead home like that. All of this is so absurd to me because it just shows the allegiance and the length that people will go to recover these narratives. Or or i even say curate. Or create these narratives that perpetuate ideas about the loss. 'cause and about robert l. e. in about certain positions that i think robert lee himself had a distaste for so I mean all of this is so remarkable to me but yet it keeps happening and decades after his death or one interesting to that point so on one of the congressmen m caldwell butler gave a little speech right and he quoted a constituent who said if property lee as unworthy of citizenship. Who is a key kept yesterday. Who can be really long list. It's about three hundred million people in women and the republic as that. He has the highest level of citizen according to the virginia delegation. It's crazy. I mean there's an important story here. Which is that immediately after the war right. There had been this ongoing treason. Obviously it had been this long bloody war and there was a desire to make there be consequences right. There had to be some sort of consequence for what people had done. And what you see in. The story of lee is how those consequences which probably weren't even severe enough at i just get ratcheted back and ratcheted back in ratcheted back and then suddenly he's a hero and he's part of this mythology and so it's two things right. It's the creation of a mythology but it is also the dwindling or retraction of consequences when people were still alive which nothing to talk about the president. But i think there are residences. Yeah i think. The fact that robert e lee kim become a college president of washington college. No less says a lot about where the country's values were and how how it's it's very difficult for people to sort of fall from grace. I mean and not recover in meaningful ways. I mean robert ely for all intents and purposes did not live a life of poverty and go off to be like you know some person who was imprisoned or incarcerated. The rest of his life He's still has a career ahead of him and even after he died as he still has. I can't even call it. Like infamy like fame among His believers like these people who hold him up to such a standard that he would be right up there with george washington himself. He i think that military lineage is really important because you know he gets cleaned up in american history..

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"robert e lee" Discussed on This Day In Esoteric Political History

This Day In Esoteric Political History

05:14 min | 1 year ago

"robert e lee" Discussed on This Day In Esoteric Political History

"July twenty second nineteen seventy five the house votes to restore us citizenship to robert e lee who commanded confederate troops during civil war on. I don't wanna do much more in this intro. Because i think the simple fact robber elite had his citizenship restored. Opened up a lot of natural questions i wanted. Robert lee not have citizenship. Or why were they restoring it. In nineteen seventy five and all those as you would expect have very fascinating answers. Or at least i think so. We'll leave you to judge that you tell us at the end of the episode. Did you think those were fascinating. Answers here to provide those answers are as always nicole. Hammer of columbia and kelly carter jackson of wellesley. Hello there hello jody. Hey there and our special guests. This episode is john reeves author of a number of books. Including the lost indictment of robert e lee the forgotten case against an american icon. John title alone. We know you're the man for this conversation. Thank you for coming and the book goes well beyond the title. It has an entire chapter on the nineteen seventy five vote. But i will say this does bring up all sorts of interesting themes like the legend of lee and lost cause mythology. And this kind of whole twisty turny. National treasure esque story about some long lost documents. It's really fascinating. Do you wanna start. John with this simple question of. Why did robert ely not have citizenship. Yeah and maybe start first. Bit resolution itself because the apprentice of the resolution is sort of funny and kind of a bizarre to..

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"robert e lee" Discussed on Cape Up with Jonathan Capehart

Cape Up with Jonathan Capehart

03:14 min | 1 year ago

"robert e lee" Discussed on Cape Up with Jonathan Capehart

"So yeah i think that the language that we use has to change if we're to see the monstrosity of of the enslaved era you towards the end of the book and this also plays into the myth of the las. 'cause you write once. I accepted that simple fat. The enslaved where people who deserve the same rights as any american. My whole thought process changed. I grew up thinking that before. Eighteen sixty one slaves. Were somehow not quite as human as white southerners that the enslaved only became real people after eighteen. Sixty five it pains me to write that. I believe something so grotesque and immoral but it's worse to lie. That was the hardest sentenced to right right in the entire book. Because i'm i again i feel so I mean i get almost here when i think about that because it was so monstrous to think that the enslaved weren't somehow work people. That's just not true. And that's part of what we as white southerners grow up with is that this was the right way wasn't all bad. It was all bad it was deeply evil and it is grotesque and immoral that. I thought that anybody who thinks that there is any so you often hear. Oh he was a good slave owner with no no no dot not good. If you're a slave owner that's bad morally repugnant. So then what do you think because then it gets. It gets complicated with robert e lee as you write in the book you show how he is just are truly horrible horrible person. No all deeming value whatsoever but then when you get to slave owners like george washington. Thomas jefferson Who played enormous roles in creating this country that it remains a beacon of hope and freedom around the world and yet they own slaves out. Do we square that circle. Is it possible to revere someone so complicated or people so complicated for me. The bumper sticker for is he committed treason to preserve slavery so he was trying to create a country based on human enslavement..

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"robert e lee" Discussed on Cape Up with Jonathan Capehart

Cape Up with Jonathan Capehart

03:12 min | 1 year ago

"robert e lee" Discussed on Cape Up with Jonathan Capehart

"I'm upset because it created society based on white supremacy which is morally wrong. And it's not just morally. Well of course it's economically stupid. So i was so upset that when i found this and that's one of the reasons i'm so passionate about it now is that i have to tell the world about this because this myth loss causes still infecting our nation. It's in our dna you know. Racism is the virus in the american dirt. It's our eternal pandemic and until we are honest about it till we put the sunlight of history upon it. We're never going to get over this. And we're gonna talk more more about that. But i want to keep going because i want people to understand your history your background so that the that the passion that comes through really rings true for folks so now you go to college and you go you go to washington and lee. I go to washington jonathan to be educated virginia. Gentlemen to be a good upstanding white southern christian rhino in virginian white is everywhere in this everything. I say you gotta put white before it right and so washington is for george washington right. Lee is for robert. E lee in talking about washington and lee and briefly the history. Cleese talk about the the shrine this is the centerpiece of the university. And if you look go inside and it looks like an actual chapel like an like a christian church except there's no christian iconography in there and what's in there instead is a shrine to robert e lee so You know you go up on the on the on the stage. There's no pulpit. there's no place where it lists hymnals no cross instead. There's an apps the sanctuary which is the holy of holies. And you know we're we're christians. Put a the altar and on the altar usually goes to the eucharist. I episcopalian acolyte. I know i know my way around a church and and and so But lying on that alter is not nothing. It's robert e. Lee the recumbent louis. He's lying down on the battlefield in confederate uniform with his hand over his heart and his left hand on the scabbard of his sword. Ready to rise up for the people of the of the south. It's in white marble the for the purity. That's the word that they would use purity a to pfeiffer social system of slavery and so that is a it is a minute. Downstairs is is like a reliquary. His office never been touched since the day. One hundred and sixty years ago. His horse traveller buried right outside there and people come and put pennies on his grave. Always face down so that the hated lincoln's face is not visible to robert e lee and so that lake will have to kiss traveler lease horse. Well have to kiss travelers. I don't remember my graduation. But for my for my actual commission. I go into lee chapel and i go up on stage. I still have a picture of me. Right next to the picture of robbie lee and confederate uniform. I'm in my green uniform. About to be commissioned he's looking resplendent the lights on him like a halo..

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"robert e lee" Discussed on Cape Up with Jonathan Capehart

Cape Up with Jonathan Capehart

01:59 min | 1 year ago

"robert e lee" Discussed on Cape Up with Jonathan Capehart

"Ties julie. Thank you so much for. Coming to the podcast. Oh jonathan my absolute pleasure to be here. Thank you for inviting me. I found out about your book. Your book has been out for more than a year. Now right no. It came out the end of january this year. Oh the end of january. This year. Because i got an email from rancher now who is the pulitzer prize winning author of biographies on alexander. Hamilton george washington. The latest one grant and He sent me an email and he said you must read. You must read robert e lee and me by ties egeli. You have to read it It is right up your alley. And i'm so glad he recommended it and i'm so glad i read it because it truly is something i've been dying to read and that is a white southerner taking on race racism but most importantly the myth of the lost cause And so how about we. Just start right at the beginning. Who were you when you were a young kid. Growing up in virginia. Who did you want to model your life after jonathan i. It's crazy to say it. But i wanted to be like robert e lee and i did. My first. chapter book was about robert e lee. My dad taught at a school in northern virginia. Where the descendants of robert e lee were He was the ultimate virginia. Gentlemen and educated christian gentleman and everything in my life in alexandria led me to believe that he was that he was this great person. If it's like that old movie Spinal tap on a scale of one to ten. I would have said lee was in eleven you know and even though i was a good episcopalian went to church every sunday. I was ahead. Acolyte later in high school i would have jesus in the four five six range so it wasn't as though is that i saw lee as good i it was reverential.

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"robert e lee" Discussed on 77WABC Radio

77WABC Radio

02:17 min | 1 year ago

"robert e lee" Discussed on 77WABC Radio

"The largest military conflict ever in North America, began on a rural field in southern Pennsylvania. The epic battle would last three days and become the most important fight in US history. The battle of Gettysburg. Two months earlier, Robert E. Lee and his Confederate army of Northern Virginia enjoyed a series of victories over the union. Li made plans for an invasion of the North, hoping to take pressure off war weary Virginia and other southern states. His army of 80,000 rebels began moving On June 3rd. Union General George Me took command of the Army of the Potomac. As Lee moved into Pennsylvania. On the morning of July, 1st advance units of both forces came into contact just outside of Gettysburg. The sound of battle attracted other units and by noon The conflict was fully intensifying. On July 3rd. Lee tried one last time to break the union lines he ordered picket a general to charge that's Pickett's charge. It was a desperate maneuver that will go down as one of the worst military decisions of the entire civil war as thousands of rebels were cut down by union gunfire. Both armies did hold their positions until the night of July. 4th when generally withdrew. Gettysburg was a turning point of the civil war. Each side suffered 25,000 casualties and less than 72 hours. In November. 18 63 President Lincoln visited the site to consecrate a new national cemetery. Delivering his famous Gettysburg address. Lee would finally surrender to U. S. Grant. Less than two years later. In its totality. The Civil War was fought in 10,000 places from Vermont to Arizona. Claiming the lives of 700,000 Americans. For.

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"robert e lee" Discussed on Little News Ears

Little News Ears

02:04 min | 2 years ago

"robert e lee" Discussed on Little News Ears

"Is no more tab since nineteen sixty. Three coca cola has made a soft drink called tab. It is famous for having only watt calorie and a small but passionate group of people. Absolutely love it. Coca cola has decided to stop making a drink. It will no longer be available next year. Are you second get light is a man has been spotted flying in a jet pack in the skies over la. The men was flying six thousand feet above the earth. Flying in a jet pack is illegal in quite dangerous arthur. Kid line is a fraternity that greatly respects. Robert e lee is facing a big problem. I what's a fraternity. It is a group of men. Join a special club. While at the university most fraternities have greek names members of kappa alpha. One to stop respecting robert e lee because for many people he represents white supremacy the believed that white people should have more power than others robert l. e. was the most powerful general in the south during the civil war or for line is president. Donald trump says people are tired of antennae. Fao cheat and a coronavirus. And didn't he thought she is considered by many people to be the expert on couvin nineteen and a newfound. She says he is absolutely not surprised. That trump got covid. Nineteen because drop often. Doesn't wear his mask or follow other precaution. R v guideline is the final presidential debate. Was yesterday joe. Biden and dollar trunk tried to explain why they should be the president of the united states next year. President trump brought tony buba linski as a guest to debate. Who is the linski. He used to work with joe biden. Son hunter why does this matter. But with alinsky says that the biden's used the name of biden to make money from china. Our question of the day. What is a fraternity..

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"robert e lee" Discussed on KTAR 92.3FM

KTAR 92.3FM

05:41 min | 2 years ago

"robert e lee" Discussed on KTAR 92.3FM

"One, because I know this tends to be one of those Clickbait type stories. The Robert E. Lee statue came down at the Capitol building. In Washington. So the way this works, if you're unfamiliar is that all the states donate two statues to go into the Capitol building? And they're they're displayed. And then there's a committee in the capital that decides where to put them, basically, but the states they make these donations to where they are, well, one of the one of the statues donated by the state of Virginia Was that of Robert E. Lee. So it came down. Um And I know this is this is why I want to stay away from intends to be this Clickbait argument where we just get into some sort of same. You're erasing history. Well, you're a racist. Well, you know, just kind of goes back and forth on this stuff. And just to let you know where I land on this is I don't see any point in having a statue of Robert E. Lee anywhere. Don't want to celebrate the Confederacy at all. To me. They were treasonous individuals who look to break this country apart. I have no respect for what they did on while of course, it's ah piece of American history. I don't want to celebrate people for their for their sins. I don't want to do that. The same way that I don't want to put up a statue of Osama bin Laden because, well, it was a part of American history. Nope. Don't need to memorialize, uh, kamikaze pilots. Nope. Germany doesn't have a bunch of memorials to Hitler. There is one statue of Benedict Arnold in America. And remember Benedict Arnold was was an American revolutionary leader in hero before he flipped. There's a statue it's in New York. Off his boot. Just a statue of Benedict Arnold's boot. Because I think it was the battle of Saratoga, where he lost his his leg. Bottom half of his leg. There's a statue of him he was fighting for the he was fighting for the Americans at the time. We don't memorialize traders. Right. So that's where I land on this. Know what ends up happening is we start having arguments over Should we rename schools? Should we take down every statue of anybody has ever done anything wrong. I don't think that's necessarily the case, either. I don't think that we need tol. We need to kind of go through and say, you know who did somebody once? Uh Somebody wants cheat on their homework. Well, they can't be. It can't be a good person. No, I don't. I don't look at it that way. But I want to celebrate people in spite of their sins, not because of them. Robert E. Lee. We're not celebrating him is a great American hero. We're celebrating him because he was an anti American hero. Not a man to hero. He was an anti American hero. I don't want to celebrate them. Okay, so we celebrate people in spite of their sins, not because of them. Spider, their flaws, not because of them, all right? So that's that's my logic. That's how I fall on those things, okay? That's it. Statue of Robert E. Lee came down. And Senator elect Wendy Rogers. Who is going to be in Arizona senator starting next month. She said. It's just garbage. Oh, How could you take down statue of that great American Robert E. Lee. Really, she said about she tweeted something. Robert E. Lee was a great patriot and a leader. You're not just tearing him down. They're coming after us. They're coming after all of us get involved now you could be next. I mean, let me make a promise you Um If you don't turn your back on this country. Declare that you're turning your back on this country. I will not try to scare the statue down of you. Right? I won't do it. There were there were just some things. I disagree with many, many, many, many politicians. I believe that their outlook can be detrimental to the future of this country. And I go while I do not think we should do that. I think it's going to be very bad for this nation. But to assign a motivation to them as they hate America. Um, that makes me the bad guy. That makes me the person who was deserving of criticism. If I disagree with, you know, we talked about the three Arizona Um, congressman who voted against the bill. Hey, If I disagree with them, I'd better have a reason for disagreeing with them. Okay? And Disagree with them, not voting on the bill. I don't disagree with your logic for not voting on the bill. Any big says he doesn't want to run up the debt. For our grandchildren. I think that's a valid point. I absolutely think it's a valid point. If it were me, I would have voted for the bill anyway. And I would have looked for places where we could cut in the future. I would have looked for places where we could cut prior to this. But I know that relief is necessary now, But I understand his argument. I don't think that Andy Biggs is trying to kill Children by not voting for that bill That makes sense. Unfortunate..

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"robert e lee" Discussed on WSB-AM

WSB-AM

02:14 min | 2 years ago

"robert e lee" Discussed on WSB-AM

"The Madonna vaccine arriving in Georgia today, it's going to go directly to providers in the first shots could be given later today. CVS and Walgreens working with nursing homes on giving out the vaccines there, A registered empty is now experiencing Corona virus symptoms after performing CPR on a man who suffered from cardiac arrest on a flight bound from L A x The man died in the hospital after the plane made an emergency landing last Monday. The empty says, according to his wife, He was showing covert symptoms before the flight. She's someone that he had been hey, had been short of breath. And that they were, you know, on the on the way back home, and they were gonna get get tested for covert when they got back to L. A. She had also said that her husband lost his sense of taste and smell before leaving. Orlando, Florida, though the cause of death remains unconfirmed. The empty who tried to save them had planned on getting her own virus vaccine this week, but now is in quarantine and waiting on results of his test. The CDC says that it will work with United Airlines now to reach out to others possibly infected by that passenger. Top local news every 30 minutes, and when it breaks 95.5 WSB depend on it well ahead of the Senate runoff here in Georgia, Ivanka Trump's gonna be in George. Today, she'll be in Milton and Swanny trying to round up support for Republicans David Perdue and Kelly left her in the January 5th Senate runoff race and Vice President elect Kamila Harris campaigns in Georgia. She's going to be in Columbus this afternoon. With Senate candidates John all soft and Raphael Warnock and another Confederate statue is gone from the U. S Capitol. Every state has a representative statue at the Capitol. But early this morning, Virginia's statue of Robert E. Lee was taken out of Statuary Hall. The least statue has been there since 1909 State Commission recommended its removal and its replacement with one of Barbara Johns in 1951, the African American student protest ID conditions at her all Black High school in Farmville, Virginia. Her case became part of the landmark Brown versus the Board of Education Desegregation case decided by the Supreme Court. Peter King, CBS News Let's Take a look at the WSB Market Watch this morning. The markets are not happy. The Dow's down 360 to a 29,918 NASDAQ's down 210 the S and P s off 65 WSB news time is 10 33. Greatest.

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Arrest Made In Beating Of Elderly Man Riding On Miami Metromover

South Florida's First News with Jimmy Cefalo

00:24 sec | 2 years ago

Arrest Made In Beating Of Elderly Man Riding On Miami Metromover

"Man who attacked in the elderly metro mover passenger appears to be over Miami police arresting 62 year old Robert Lee ribs for the weekend attack on 74 Year old is a ward of the Fernandez. Police, claiming their arrest report that ribs told officers for tonight has deserved the beating for calling him the N word and denouncing black lives matter. Police, however, claimed the attack was unprovoked. One of the charges against ribs is strong arm robbery. 9

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Robert Lee Yates Pt. 1

Serial Killers

01:32 min | 2 years ago

Robert Lee Yates Pt. 1

"To the graphic nature of these killers crimes listener discretion is advised. This episode includes discussions of murder and assault that some people may find offensive. We advise extreme caution for children under thirteen friends and neighbors knew Robert Lee. As an average joe he was quiet and unassuming to some acquaintances in his native spokane Washington. Yates was so remarkable that they didn't remember him at all. Yates was a decorated army helicopter. Pilot he was a father to five children. He enjoyed working with his cars which included his beloved white corvette. He lived a quiet unassuming life or so everyone thought. It soon became clear that despite Roberts mild matter nature he had a sinister side from nineteen seventy five until nine hundred ninety eight. He murdered at least seventeen people around Washington state. Soon this unassuming average Joe became spokane's most Torius resident. Hi I'm Greg Olsen and this is serial killers on the podcast network every Monday dive into the minds and madness of serial killers today. We're going to take a deep dive into the life of Robert Lee Gates a convicted murderer who killed sixteen women and one man in spokane Washington.

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Woman says man held her against her will, forced her to watch 'Roots' to understand racism

Mark Blazor

00:34 sec | 3 years ago

Woman says man held her against her will, forced her to watch 'Roots' to understand racism

"And in all you will man is facing charges today after he allegedly kidnapped a woman and forced her to watch the TV mini series roots is so that she would overcome her racism Robert Lee noise use force the woman to watch this series with him in cedar rapids and when she tried to leave the allegedly told her to sit down and watch or he would kill her and spread her body parts along the interstate the mini series based on the bestselling book chronicles slavery in America and no way now faces first degree harassment and false imprisonment

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Woman says man held her against her will, forced her to watch 'Roots' to understand racism - NBC News

Michael Berry

01:00 min | 3 years ago

Woman says man held her against her will, forced her to watch 'Roots' to understand racism - NBC News

"The man held a female captive and forced her to watch roots so that she could better understand her racism according to a criminal complaint investigators allege that Robert Lee noisy fifty to a black man yesterday forced Jill Shelton thirty seven a white woman to sit with him and watch the program about slavery Shelton allegedly was held against her will inside a small cedar rapids home she has shared with the ma'am Shelton told Popo that when she tried to move he threatened her to remain seated and watch the movie with him or else he would kill her and spread her body parts across our three eighty on the way to Chicago see that's too much you can threaten the killer but threatening to then spread her body crop parts across to the highway that's too far

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The Mcstay Family Murder: Setting the Scene

True Crime Brewery

09:31 min | 3 years ago

The Mcstay Family Murder: Setting the Scene

"The mcstay family had recently moved into their new house on on a nice cul de sac in fallbrook California Nets. At the time they disappeared. They had relocated from a beachside apartment in San Clemente. Joey and summer next day had been making plans working on home renovations when they stopped responding to texts and phone calls on February Fourth Twenty ten Joseph was forty he owned and operated earth inspired products misses a business at designed installed water fountains. It had been. Joey's dream to be self employed Loyd in order for him to spend as much time as possible with his sons Johnny h four and Joseph Junior h three. Joey's summer was a licensed assist real estate agent. She taken some time off in order to be a stay at home mother. Yeah and to work on the house. 'cause there was a lot of work to be done there. They big cleanser this house. Stay Dead Joey and summer had each been married once before when they met and according to friends they fell in love quickly and they were just crazy about each other and quite happy. So let's go into summer. Joey's history is a bit just to get a better understanding of who they were as people and who they were as a couple before this all happened. So Joey's birth name was Joseph Allen Ashley. His Mother Susan married his biological logical father. Robert Lee right out of high school but the marriage just didn't last very long at all. Susan then met Patrick mcstay. Nineteen in seventy one and Patrick was quite happy to take over his. Joey's father he and Susan married in nineteen seventy two. They were married and and Patrick adopted Joey with Robert. Ashley's permission which I found pretty interesting and with this adoption Joe. His name was legally changed to Joseph. Brian mcstay then in nineteen seventy-three. Joey's brother Michael was born. And Joey was a doting big brother. Who really love to help out with Michael's care but unfortunately Patrick and citizens marriage didn't last long either and they divorced in nineteen seventy five and and they would continue to have some back and forth issues over the years? Although Susan remarried and maintained custody of Joey and Michael the two boys did continue to spend in time with their father Patrick and for a while in his teens joey went to live with his dad in Dallas Texas. So according to Patrick the father he was is very close with Joey. A very good relationship is consistent adopted kid right right Berkeley her very good relationship. Well I mean. He came in pretty early in. Joey's life so there wasn't a lot of you know arguing back and forth about anything not a lot of that. You're not my real father stuff through now. Joey met his first wife Heather in nineteen ninety and they got married in nineteen ninety two in nineteen ninety six. They had a son now. Al Joanne Heather lift in San Clemente near the beach. Had his father's pretty wealthy Yona jewelry store in Laguna beach but he really likes Joey and he helped give his daughter just an absolutely beautiful wedding and before he met and married Heather Joe. It had several jobs he worked as a waiter and bartender. He also started his own small business designing and selling products now later. He began designing small waterfalls and fountains in his garage. He borrowed a little bit of money from his father opened a shop which he called Naturally Dana Point and by late nineteen ninety six was quite successful. He had made over two hundred thousand dollars in sales then he brought his brother Michael and open naturally DP fountains with the least warehouse for the production. So he's starting to move up a little bit here. Yes very hard worker very motivated. But Heather enjoys marriage. Rich fell apart and he found out that heather was having an affair and she had become pregnant by her lover but still he kind of blamed himself at least in part are because he'd been working a lot so he wasn't spending much time with her. He tried to work things out even told heather that he would happily raise the new baby as his own But it was too late. Heather was already in love with this other guy and she decided on a divorce but apparently this was devastating to joey. He was still in love with heather so he was pretty heartbroken and depressed any moved in with his mom and according to her he went through months and months of depression. He and his brother Michael continued to run the fountain business though and eventually they got together with a computer expert named Dan. Kavanagh Dan and help them build a website so they could begin doing their business as earth inspired products online so people could go online and order fountains so this is really opened up things for them then. Joey did meet summer. That was in two thousand four. They were introduced by. Joey's friend who was named macgyver. So I don't remember. He had enough his parents liked the TV show. It's a strange name choices in it or yeah so summer was just breaking up with her longtime boyfriend. Vic and Joey and summer's relationship moved fast but she was worried about how vic was going to react to her being with someone a new so soon she didn't own a house with vic and had to go through the legalities of getting her name off of the property in the mortgage and getting some money out of that so summer was a bit eccentric and she had been known by more than one name so this would end up causing a lot of speculation after the family's family's disappearance like what was going on with her. She was born Virginia Lisa Aranda and had also been known as SUMMER MARTELLI SUMMER ARANDA RANDOM MARTELLI LISA Aranda and Lisa Martelli Summers mom raised her and her two siblings on her own as a single mom in both California and Chicago and according to summer's mother Martelli was the surname of Summers Stepdad. Now another thing that summer did that would lead some people to question things was that she was also known to have taken some years off her age when speaking to people. But there's no evidence that she used this new birth date on any legal documents family members including her sister. Heavens suggested that her name changes were just her own preference and it wasn't anything anything to avoid any legal entanglements. She was just the kind of person who wanted to make up her own name. She went to live in California and be named summer and she did did. She did it so summer gave birth to Joey's first son Johnny in two thousand five and in less than two years later Joseph Junior was born a summer had an aversion to hospitals and both boys were delivered at home shortly after Joseph. Juniors born Joe in summer got married and this is a small ceremony in Orange County. The summer side of the family didn't attend. She didn't seem very close to family. And this worry. Joey's mother so the night before the wedding summer had called her family s and not to come to the wedding and stole his mom. Susan was never quite sure awesome redundant no but it seems like. Joey knew why he wasn't questioning it. So you know there were issues but what family doesn't have issues really. Were your those issues. His issues right and these were a little extraordinary. I guess but who knows what was going on and it was a small second marriage. So maybe it wasn't a big deal. Having family. There is a bigger deal to some people than others where I would put that as a priority. I'd like they're where my family at my wedding. Of course right. Yeah but not all. My family came to my wedding. We'll important one stood. Oh okay well. According to a lot of people though summer was very jealous of Joe his first wife Joey and heather shared custody of their son Jona. Joey's friends friends and family said that summer was very caring Jona even though she wasn't always thrilled with heather. Summer did complained to her sister. Tracy that heather would barge barge into their house regularly. You know even walking in when Joey's in the shower kind of weird and she would drop off Jona without calling ahead and just kind of expect. Expect summer to Babysit so summer was trying to get along and she put up with it at first but eventually she told Joey that she was going to have to break up and leave if he didn't set some boundaries with the ex wife now to me that seems totally reasonable for those to me too yeah. I'm not just a working or drop off daycare right. No Yeah and you're not married to him anymore. So what are you walking into the House for is if you live here. Durham my house. Yeah Komo Yard. That's right so I totally get that. I mean it's territorial thing if nothing else plus. It's disrespectful very disrespectful. To summer summer and to summer and Joey's relationship maybe not the best thing for Jona to see either possibly not

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