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REShow: Rob Demovsky - Hour 1 (06-1)

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REShow: Rob Demovsky - Hour 1 (06-1)

"This is the rich eisen show jordan. Love is really sitting there thinking. Do you think. I wanted to be in this position. Rich eisen show with a penny hardaway. He has a gallon of team that wears the really small short and one time he had a breakaway layup. The he missed it was because of the shore. Ellen rose everybody want him and staggers reporter rob demovsky saint safety malcolm jenkins through football hall of fame. Inductee is it routes plus from peacock's brother from another michael holly and now it's rich side. I mean that's the only record. Start the show. We're here here. We go welcome the rich eisen show. Everybody it's thursday. It's the second thursday in june. Twenty twenty one. It's a. it's a great day in our neighborhood. Good to see over there. Chris brockman how are you sir. How are you. Mr del tufo. Mikey date along appreciate that. Tj jefferson how are you sir. I'm great did you guys knows how bright the sun was this morning by chance. Yeah i actually was going to say that because my condo. Yeah this is. Sally was like noon at about eight this morning. Heavy drinker was last night long night. Or i didn't know if presumably a slush this day or something i didn't know about some was high up and bright young for ten days for ten days prepping. Well you know what it means. It just means we've got a great three hour. Rich is the sun. And the the world orbits around our program aware that in the basketball world kind of revolved around the sun last night. Halo ladies dropping. tj jefferson. It's like chose the middle key. All else done. He did not all Do we is it. Is it like a no hitter. Do you talk about it. you don't talk about it. chris. Paul's halfway to the western conference finals already had the injury and he played through it estimates. Talk about like an and he's the maestro like they're not he's not that i mean he's he's a crucial component here but he's he's not like the maintenance shop that they don't demand that he's the main score he's number one on the call snapped. Correct us enough to take the game over like this is setup for heh like this. Is it for him. I mean. I know. I'm i'm punching the clown big time right now. Because he's halfway there. Everyone here in los angeles california where the sons higher. I guess in a shiny today. I didn't notice that. I mean Like but i mean we all know. It's it's been difficult slog for him to get to that third tier that third level that third Part of the. I guess chessboard as he's making his way to try and checkmate the rest of the league. But two for two and the nuggets look like they're missing jamal. Murray they've got their mvp but they they look like that. There's you know there's looked like they're trying to hit that. Third that third gear fourth gear fifth gear. Just not. they're they're they're they're they're they're missing. And maybe just maybe. Just maybe this is the end of their ron. Obviously they do have the mvp. And i'm sure that will be very special moment In game three. When i imagine there's gonna be a presentation of some sort in front of the fans there in denver f shortly right and we didn't even really kinda hit that yesterday because we were too deep and talking about short shorts and long shorts with jalen rose. That videos done very well. Yeah so But nikola yokich was Born into this league during a commercial break you see that video did yeah. I'll put it was during a taco bell commercial like nba draft coverage. We do it all the time too and in on. nfl network. Once you're through the first round. And i i guess what would you say. The second round. The nba draft is akin to a fifth sixth seventh round draft choice. And the and the nfl right. Fix kinda fourth even like at the top of the fourth round. The top of the third day. We're still doing pick by pick coverage but once we get towards the end of the fourth round the top of the fifth round. We stopped doing the. Let's go to the podium. Let's hear it right here right so the second round of the draft when the nuggets round the clock they went to commercial break and you saw the bottom line. You know drafted into the league banned it would become. Mvp so can't count him out but it does look good for the sons right now. Man does look good for your phoenix and he ran away with the mvp that you said the one vote. From derrick rose was the fan vote. The new yorkers man will definitely stuff a ballot box. But it's too bad because you know the top. Mvp candidates throughout the year. They all got injured. Lebron james and steph and embiid embodied steph curry all these guys went down so you see. That's why they got one vote. One vote even though he had just as good as statistics. He did the previous two years when he was the writer of the mvp. So you know this was kind of yokich is award to lose down the stretch. Now he's been tremendous. You can see amazing. he is. He's one of the most skilled big man in terms of passing and shooting that we've seen such a long time and they're about to get slapped by the way that was an outstanding analysis that i'm greatly appreciative because my only one was. Hey did you see was Drafted during a taco bell. I'm glad you've built in the the necessary blanks assist. Thank you no problem. They are not literally dropped. The ball there But yeah making shots. Michael porter jr. Junior's a little dinged right now like they. Anyway i get swept. I just don't i mean i could see them losing the series that i can't see them not winning a game so you had the night off tonight. Not so much i did. Like rico was recovery. They're very you know all right tonight. tonight not so much clippers back action. The that'll be fun. Can't wait to watch all the teams that might get swept. Walkie better do something tonight. This is it. This is all their whole season already. Know hard out. Could you imagine the nets sweep the bucks without harden they might of ourselves is tonight is will just cancel the season. This is big time tonight. it's beggar game. We'll talk about more of it on. The shows. Nets bucks clippers jazz this evening but as you know we frequently have a quite a bit of nfl on here. Did you see who signed his rookie contract. Christopher brockman did you see how well i told you morning appreciate it. I mean he knows how this works rich. Been there for a long time. I know attention to the man behind the curtain. Wise and powerful laws. Yes you obviously had It's justin fields. Everybody fully guaranteed four year deal worth eighteen. Thank god bless compost serve. Nfl meaty group. He put it down to the dollar right down to the dollar. Ten million eight hundred seventy actual ornamented. Do you want to guess how much his contractors is. Okay you over without going over. Let's do this okay. So you already said. Eighteenth seven right. I heard that okay so go ahead. Let's say eighteen thousand nineteen million. I know. I know you don't want to go over but i'm still in prices recommend eighteen million seven hundred and sixteen dollars i are you are under because it's eighteen eight seven one nine five two justin fields including an eleven million dollar signing bonus. Congratulations to you sir. Congratulations to you and right here. And right now still as we're sitting here as the lions are finishing up their mandatory mini camp in the bears of signed this man in just fields. And andy. Dalton's the qb one. We don't hear about nick foles very much these days but we need to. Maybe even talk about nick foles because you take a look at minnesota and then you take a look at green bay's mini camp that up today. The only man who started a game in the national football league's national football conference. Northern division is kirk cousins matinee entire entire group. Calman hasn't again if nick foles is still around chicago. He has as we know. Eddie dalton hasn't jared goff hasn't blake bortles sure hasn't jordan love hasn't but jordan love was asked. Is he ready to start week one. Hey this is the sound bite that remember yesterday. I told you in. Tom brady was speaking yesterday. That the sound bite. That would absolutely be pulled and would be the headline. Was him saying that. You know the reality is things are different here because he will not countenance the concept of them just needing to roll the footballs out and win it again because they are the first team since the late seventy steelers to bring an entire starting lineup from the previous year super bowl team back for another run intact mazing how that hasn't happened since then and bray will not be here for the whole well. You got back got tom. Let's go you should be doing it again. He will not have that that will creep into the locker room creep into the ear gates and enter the mind gates and come out the losing gates to use many of the michael irvin phrases. You won't countenance that. That was basically sound. But i kind of nailed him. One pat myself on the back is is a host want and a show like this one. This is the sound bite. That was that came out of the jordan. Love press conference yesterday when asked if he would be ready to start the season in week. One should the opportunity present itself. Are you prepared to be the quarterback number one one hundred percent Obviously this is a time where i'm getting a lot of extremely valuable reps. That might not been getting a normal circumstance so i'm just. I'm going to take it day by day and But yeah that's something. That's what i'm here for. I'm our was drafted here to play quarterback so I'll definitely be ready week. One now you could sit here and say what a silly question that is because what is the answer you're going to expect from gave him the kevin durant answer because you could have basically which is what well what happened after the game The net skins used that brockman. The reporter asked garnett like aptx two years after your calf injury. Did you expect the rain back here. Right and he looked at me goes. Is that a real question. They're supposed to tell my supposed to answer. That is like wh how you now that you're doing this here the way that you are. What if i told you when you were going through the injury that this is the result or you might even get the same answer than that or you know a. What are your thoughts now about your journey. Now that you've reached this point the journey of you going through free agency and hurt you know. Would you mind letting us in on on your thoughts on how satisfactory. This must feel for you or something like that. 'cause to me asking a question like are you going to be prepared to be the quarterback in week one is similar to like. Walk me through. Are you prepared to urinate down your leg week one. If given the opportunity are you. Are you prepared to go into new orleans and soil your pants. 'cause it's similar to like what's his response can obey but a did however elicit an answer. I was brought here to play quarterback. Yes jordan love. You were an. Isn't that the reason. Why twelve isn't there are. I heard that answer the hundred percent. Of course he's gonna be one hundred percent now we actually. What if if given the opportunity week one. I will in fact soil my pants and tune into fox so everybody could see that now. That's not the sound bite. The soundbite is. I was brought here to play quarterback Yes you were jordan. Love just like any quarterback that's traded up for in the first round of the draft is brought there and play quarterback into play quarterback for that team. Yes correct correct. Amando to use the phrase from happy days that doesn't fact rhyme. Yep so how does this week's many camp all move forward jordan. Love did get the reps. Didn't he and next time we hear from twelve will be assuming this will be the next time when he is all miked up paired up with bryson to shambo seriously. Whilst would he be in front of a microphone. I don't think any Sportscenter anchors these tight with as is leaving the network right mean. We'll invite him on. I can't imagine he would accept an invitation onto a show to continue to talk about things he hasn't been on next time. We'll be and guess what. Guess what he's gonna say that day nothing it will just be the subject of barbs and subject of razzing. It'll be the subject of aids and shade being thrown in his direction by everybody that he's competing against or his broadcasting his day. He'll expect it. He's ready to dish it back will parse all of that and then comes training camp. What will happen then. 'cause jordan love was brought there to play quarterback correct and he was brought there to play quarterback sooner rather than later or at least for sure before rodgers was ready to give everything up until he had an mvp season and thus a wrench got thrown in but just in fields is in the mix now in chicago. All eyes will be there. How quickly will he be able to be brought up to speed. Andy dalton twitter. Qb one will he be actual qb one. And then there's nick foles don't forget. There's an mvp of the super bowl. It's still on that roster. How does he factor into all of this. What happens with matt. Nagy pudding fields out there. His plan is to keep justin field nailed to the bench and marinating as long as possible. Okay takes one year off the clock. I don't think he's going to be able to do that. It's great man that. Nfc north drama is great and rob demovsky had a front row seat to it. And he's going to be joining us. Next to just put a bow on this week's chock full of conversations about rodgers and the packers and what happens next and i mean as you know we're just hunting and pecking for an answer. That only twelve has. But we'll see 'cause you know people talk at training camps people talk many camps people. Talk what you hear. What do you think what's the room of what's that. What's this. I really wanna know. What the chitter chatter was in green bee green bay. This past week was the general sense of things. And i bet you the answer is going to be still the emoji. Shraga we don't know malcolm jenkins of the new orleans saints. He'll be first up Studying jordan love rescued. Looks like as things currently looked like in the crystal ball new orleans saints. Safety will be joining us. He's always a terrific Qna isaac bruce two thousand twenty one pro football hall of fame and duct. Yeah he's part of this. Mix this year. And i'm gonna tell him this. He is known for brevity known for not being a man of many words with many many many speeches this august on the slate isaac were counting on. You need we need. Just keep a tight even moving. Keep a tight. Michael holly on this show Garrett cole started last night with the results are in and the old school. Gary cole- showed up last night man. He was terrific supposedly with no spider tack or with spider tack with a spider dance. That drains that tack over here spider. I don't know what it is and pita lonzo. The mets is now chiming in on this. Let him use it. Let them use tack. I thought you said you was all right. I thought you said he was using the spider attacking spider. Dan what am i on the pay no tackling here. So we'll talk about Alcohol before on this program. Michael holly will join us in our three to help us take us to his show. As he michael. Smith follow this show on. Nbc sports on peacock every single day in brother from another. Let's take a break. We'll come back. 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It will bring you back. Where am i now though. Would you bring me back. We're really happy. You're not really happy like you know what i mean like. I'm happy with my head. Zoom in on it. I'm happy with my head right now. I'm happy with life. My hats have been cutting down. Were up to five days a week now two days a week now because i'm feeling good about prime right now if i look at myself on social media is taking lease nine years off my life nine years yes young prime right now pitcher me. My profound me. That's you know susan. My wife just like seeing you on the air and she goes. She's like what data is that really saying. She's really see we. You girl starts to pick up a little. You really can't say you just let. Hey you wanna work day but not not you'll but we should work you can't say it and she's just waiting for you to jump in there. It's like double dutch and you just sit there. She got her keep looking. Come home jumping. You can do this. But i mean a lot with this your expert opinion. Okay so you have a lot of a they call it donor. Much donor hairs unique. But but wouldn't it. Just be jarring for people to see me. You don't just gotta just go forward. You're brave rich. You don't care what people think you have to take two weeks off. Oh come on how. How many days do you have to be outing. We're on this show rich. That's not an example. Showed up on this show okay. They know what's going on. You tell them this is what's going on. I just have a rainy day for like three days. Bad days. in back your back rich. I do it do it rich. Don't do it bridge You should do it fun stuff. Check all our stuff out at youtube dot com slash rich eisen show on our archives as we turned seven this fall back here on our rich eisen. Show radio network along with nbc sports on peacock with the Packers mini mandatory mini camp In the rear view mirror in green bay wisconsin. We figured let's check in with a man who's been covering this team for ever and a day from the worldwide leader in sports rob demovsky. How are you rob rich. It's actually not over. There's one more practice on the sideline right now watching punting drills now. This is one more day of practice. I hope i hope nobody goes crazy. Because say down upon to the one yard line about ten yards away from me right now. Let's let's do this. Chris brockman can you. Can you do this Live tweet. Through what rob is about to tell us about putting rob what is happening right now. Let's we're going to live tweet this and of course give you credit. What's happening right. Hunter jake punter. Jk scott just kicked a punch that rookie third round pick amari. Rogers fair caught at the five yard line. I so does that. Mean that scott's he's at a regular season postseason quality and that. Rogers is also needing. Maybe you don't fair catch something a five yard line. You gotta let go like how do we. How do we interpret this. Is it good or is it bad. Yeah let's let's leave the interpretation for when we get the actual live eleven on eleven Offense versus defense. That we can scrutinize every throw jordan. Love like we have the last two days so the only thing i can tell you. Is this matt. Lafleur is currently standing in the end zone talking to davante adams Who's basically been just chilling out for the last two days. He's been here. He's been doing some work off to the side but it's not actually done any Football has not been catching any. Footballs from jordan. Love or any other quarterback this week. Okay so The tweet items are what you told us about. Jk scott and amari rogers and then the fact that that Davante adams in matt lafleur talking in the end zone right now. Those who tweeted hurriedly currently speaking with each other. Chris please put it out there right now on at richeisenshow and and make sure that we include rob demovsky twitter. Handle the tweets are up. Go go that's it. it's called going viral and being current So we are in the middle of all this. What is the takeaway from this week. Rob demovsky i in part. It's business as usual right rich. Because none of us expected aaron rodgers to be here and of course. He's not and it's business as usual in the sense that we were going to scrutinize everything jordan. Loved it because this is really the first chance we've seen him to be. Qb one and tuesday was a pretty much complete and utter disaster and yesterday he was in the hall so somewhere in the middle today. You know we'll see what he does what they go. Team periods here in about a half hour forty five minutes so But i can tell you will be charting every throw just like i have the last couple of days and then people will be on twitter for saying it's practicing helmets and shorts in june and no one's hitting anyone which is all through every bit of that is true but it is again the first time that we're seeing somebody who based on the tea leaves potentially being read with writing on the wall you know could be the guy okay. This is my twenty fifth year covering this team and for twenty four years. They've done quarterback reps one way in green bay. Whether it's been my congressman. Ray rhodes like sherman. Mike mccarthy or matt lafleur last year they always do at the same way starter gets the first four or five reps then. The backup gets the next three or four reps then. The third stringer gets the next two or three reps that worn by the way signaling the end of the special teams period of very good research. And and then. If there's a fourth quarterback maybe he gets a rep or two however this week jordan love when they go to a team period takes every single rep on tuesday. At one point. He took sixteen straight snaps yesterday. Longest re Period was eleven straight snaps and then blake bortles. Came in and got like two or three. And then Kirk ben kurt. Who's there other quarterbacks and camp out like one. And so i've never seen them in my twenty five years of doing this and i would assume This is not the norm and other places around the league. Either of having one quarterback take ten twelve fourteen. Sixteen straight snaps. That tells you that they are crashed coursing jordan. Love right now to him ready just in case they have to. I mean especially since you know you you you know in your twenty five years you've also just like the rest of us have never seen an entire season where somebody could get some reps Didn't because there was a pandemic. So i mean and that plays a factor in it but obviously a fair rogers were here The reps would be divided so much differently and it would probably be a more traditional ref cow You know even when even those years when brett farr would skip many camp the last couple years of bike sherman they would excuse him and aaron rodgers was a rookie and a second year guy. They still didn't do the reps. This way So i i just think it's incredible to watch the workload Back and look at my notes last year from training camp and jordan love for fifty five passes in team periods over the. What was it about three week training camp last year. If i remember right he threw fifty five passes in eleven on eleven drills. I'm not talking about this stuff where they're working throwing it in the nets off the side. I'm talking eleven on eleven football in the last two days he's thrown fifty one passes So basically all of his work. The last two days is equal to what he did. The entire training camp last rob demovsky of espn espn nfl. Nation reporter in green bay joining me here on the rich eisen show and jordan loves media availability. I thought he handled himself very well. I thought it's just what a tough spot for him. And the the sound bite that everyone's talking about him saying he's one hundred percent gonna be ready for week one as if he's going to say also you know One hundred percent regatta soil. Myself like fifty fifty. I'm not quite sure you know. I mean that would have been the sound bite but to me what he said a few lines after. That is what jumped out at me. Saying like he was brought here to play quarterback. And i'm like yes that's the point that's the whole deal so what what is. What are you hearing. What are you and your colleagues talking about. Maybe pulling somebody from the the packers organization aside what what is the scuttle butt if you will of. What's at this at this facility when you stand on the sidelines of practice and scouts The assistant coaches walk by. You know you always try to grab a minute or two of their time. And and i would say you know the last couple of weeks during many. I'm i'm sorry during ota's you know the guys were a little concerned about you know love and and you know one one guy kinda smirked said you know. Aaron rodgers is probably like this if you could see it. 'cause he's volvo struggling and then yesterday man when he got hot and started throwing dimes down the field and everybody's sort of booth changed the energy at practice. Was you know it reminded me of a training camp practice where rogers would carve up the defense and and you know that sort of what happened yesterday. It's just sort of energize. The whole thing is just reading body language yesterday on the sidelines. Sure looked like there was Okay this is what this is why they drafted this guy. This is what we saw You know in college especially his not as necessarily as last year where he struggled a little bit but his second to last year where you know he was outstanding. I think there was that beliefs yesterday. That oh i get it now back to that kind of thing. You know rich when it's sort of you see something that you've heard about but haven't really seen in person and now you see it and you just go okay. I get it now now. And i know some people might be hearing this conversation rob and saying once again like you. You intimated before it's just june. what are you like. what are you doing well. But this informed this sort of stuff. informs a coaching staff and it also informs front office in a way that they might conduct their business but we all know at the end of the day. Rob that there's no choice normally between let's run it back with our mvp quarterback or let's go into a season with a guy. We have no idea who won't huggies are going to drop you know week one or like like mahomes or or like week eight week ten week. Twelve like every other first year quarterback and that totally flushes of a super bowl potential. Run down the toilet so what. What is the latest on. What you're hearing about the the converse are they having conversations best you can tell me the best i can tell The packers if not checking in directly with rogers at least in touch with his representatives on semi regular basis but. I also think that they're of the belief that you know. We just need to basically wait till training camp rolls around and hope he realizes a how much we want him here be how much his teammates want him and eat him and see how much rogers might miss football if we hold firm and our stance that we are not trading which they continue to say And that that he will you know eventually say well. I've got no choice but to try again here and make at least one more run at it and and that in that sense. It's almost like the ball is in rogers court. Everyone wants to know what the packers are gonna do. Well at this point i mean. I don't know what more they can do. They have offered him a contract extension. they have tried to address some of his concerns Obviously not to his liking at this point because if it was then we wouldn't be having this conversation. We we'd be watching. Aaron rodgers right now and many camp and not Number ten jordan love in the red jersey so I do think they they are of the hope. And the beliefs that at some point between now and september twelfth when they play at new orleans start the season and preferably much before that they will have aaron rodgers. Back here but from the perspective of rogers. I have not heard anything to suggest that. He has changed his stance. Now i know james jones Is good friend and former teammate. Made some comments yesterday. That said he believes that something. I'm paraphrasing but believes that it can be resolved. We'll be resolved that may be true But that is not what i have been told and that is not what most of us cover. The team on a daily basis and from a national perspective have been told we we have been told that he is still dug in and nothing has changed. Well i mean the the the question is is the contract. That's been put there. And this is the one thing that i haven't been able to determine Worthy terms of that contract that has been offered to aaron rodgers long enough and steep heavy enough on a on a financial commitment to to be interpreted that jordan. Love does not get on the field as long as aaron. Rodgers is still the starting quarterback there. And then i think ultimately what he was looking for initially and talking when i say initially. I'm talking like right after the season right last january february. That's what he was looking for then and that was not offered to him at that point Just a simple restructure was offered at that point. Which then you know in some ways continued. I won't say. Put this in motion. Because i think it was a notion before that right. The continued this in motion and by the time they got around offering him something. Maybe a little bit more You know. I got the sense that it was almost too late Or at least to this point it's been too little too late so Whether that changes you know between now and in those days we talked about You know. I guess we just have to wait and see. what did you make. Rob demovsky Espn packers report. What did you make of the The monthly missive from mark murphy from the president's office from the top of the flow chart him saying that it's had this is divided the fan base meaning that have been great question rich and and and my initial response is why in the world would he bring that right like live from a pr standpoint. Why would you even acknowledged that that was my initial spree action and that sat there and thought about it for a few more minutes. And i said to myself. Oh maybe he did it as a way of sending a message to rogers that hey you know the one thing i know you care deeply about is your legacy here and what the fans think of you and i'm going to send you a message that hey not everyone is behind you in this and and to me that could be the only reason that mark murphy would do that in that forum unprompted right. It was male weekly bail or monthly mail. Back column and the question wasn't even about Aaron rodgers if i if i remember correctly it was i. It didn't even address. The situation and murphy used that as a jumping off point for to make the statement that the situation is divided. The fan base To me it was either a really weird odd. Pr move or it was a genius. Move if they think that it's going to help sway rogers to let hip though that his legacy is maybe in jeopardy. I think i told you this when i was on your show last time That you know the reaction around town from from what i've experienced is definitely split and there are plenty of people who say well if rodgers doesn't want to be here you know. Forget him. there are other people that say they should fire brian. Good echoes fire. Anybody rogers wants by her and and then be done with it and bring him back There's a yard sign a down the street for be. We use the data sportscenter piece a couple of weeks ago. That that some guy putting his yard at said aaron comma go pack meaning. It's a it's a twist on the go pack. Cheer basically telling aaron. Go pack your bags you know like. That's that that is the one yard sign that i have seen. I'm still waiting for So bothers to pop up in my neighborhood. But that's the one that i see on a daily basis. You sure the saints fan didn't put that there for week one seriously like like there's a reality here also had a big package flag out his front porch so Jared goff's coming to town in week two for the opening monday night. Or and let's not forget. Jared goff You know Has been in that building before. Obviously with aaron donald on the other. You know On the other. I guess unit but i mean he's been there but i guess you'd be be careful what you wish for my last question for you then Rob is. We had andrew brandt on the show. And i'm sure you know andrew and he and he had a front row seat For for many years In the packers front office and he if anybody knows about the culture that mark murphy is keeping going on with gouda kunst in the role of ted thompson he would know. He thinks that the packers no chance they trade him and that is going to be faced with the late july decision and in early august decision of either show up or or sit at home and it's jordan love and you know we be terribly disappointed But maybe then we'll trade you in twenty twenty two but enjoy sitting where you are. Is that really the the the way this is going to potentially gulf. I think there's a decent chance at rich. And here's why if you trade him now There's no real difference in the value that you're going to get trade him in february march or april of next year combined with the fact that let's say let's use denver's example. Let's say it's random to denver right now and denver's probably got a decent team as long as they have a quarterback. They probably win. What ten eleven twelve games. Even with rogers. All of a sudden matt draft pick is in the twenties right. Yeah you're picking twenty five from that pick that you get in the trade Whereas if you wait until after the season denver has another five win six win season and you make the trade before next year's draft. Now you're picking in the top ten right with that. Take that you just acquired for him. So what's the incentive at this point t to make any move. If rodgers is dead set on plan always not gonna play for you then. Why moving right now. Unless you're getting another couple of stud players but at that point. That seems really unlikely. Rob appreciate the time man. Enjoy the rest of Of camp. I appreciate you giving us. The exclusive three or is accounting of the punting portion. As you know that speaks to my near. There's our shot. There's are there you want to read out the tweet that you put up there for us. There it is there is. Jk scotch kicked a punt that rookie third round pick amari rogers fair caught at the five airlines live wanting up excape. Include you handle two right. Now they're throwing routes on air which means it gets no defenders in the red zone and Jordan love and blake. Bortles are throwing at one time and the to Kirk ventured and they have a trial. Quarterback are jumping in and taking the next up so we we should be get close to actual eleven on eleven and and i will provide updates as well as the trial. Quarterback is named fat barve. It's really odd. Wait a minute. Thank you for laughing at my dad. I appreciate that. Thank you rob. You take care that's been goodhart. Demovsky look forward to rob's tweets and like an hour and a half. Let's go running. Throwing against air was the best Pink floyd album of the ninety s. I think right yes right. After thunder thrown against their six eighty eight. I think thrown against a there are. We'll take a break. I have a couple of cents off of all of that about banking on rogers common back. Because he doesn't want the fans to turn on him talking about that. What makes a super bowl. Champion in your estimation like is there. Is there a formula something a fan can think about player knows needs to be on a team. I think it starts with a culture. i if you don't have a winning cultured meaning that you you have from top down from coaches to every player on harasser. Everybody is bought into what you're doing in in the smallest ways in that in his not. You're not having to be directed by everybody so there's an issue if your locker room can handle within the locker room without ever having to be you know coach thing then you know you've established some type of culture secondly you gotta have the talent But then i think the the two other things that really are kind of out of your control is you gotta stay healthy and you gotta come up with a little bit of luck and you also have to have those button pushing moments to both your coaches for you. Super bowl wins. Made some ridiculous call as such ridiculously gone. Ace filled calls definitely. What was it like In the locker room. When sean payton said we're gonna go on side kick to start the second half of that super bowl so i think it's like you know both coaches. I think understood like who we were right and so we were playing the colts in in a manny was eating everybody. We knew going into that game. We needed to steal two possessions. If we can do that we can score with them and we we win and so the very first one. We two weeks before the super bowl. I won't put in this kick practice it over and over and over and over and we go in at half-time he's like. Hey how do you feel about it. I mean everybody's i let's do it and so we come out. We get it. That was the first possession we stole in the second one was tracing so he took the temperature of the locker room. He's like hey how you guys feel about it. Everybody's like run it. Let's go same thing you know. We played the patriots. We knew they were going to the phillies special. Yeah we knew they were gonna go and everyone's score points for us defense. It got to the point where like we just need one. Stop and if i can keep you know doing stuff that that philly special obviously as wanted gutsiest plays in super bowl history. The paid off to mazing they were there. You were there for both. I mean you could. You could say gutsiest calls in the history. The super bowl. We just talked about one to. You could even argue. Which one which wants to the. I was on the field. Wanted on the sideline for other. Just of watching on the sideline right. And i didn't know where they were gonna run. Not and then. I hadn't even seen them practice it really. Yeah so. I didn't even know where it came from so you were like a fan in the stadium. You like where they held. A dot com fried. I mean it's a copycat league. The patriots ran that play against us a couple of years before we played them in the super bowl. Tom carter and then did it again in super bowl tom in catch it. That down. one of my favorite book is now jenkins joining us into it's time eight four four two four. Which is the number to dial here on the rich eisen show so we just heard from rob demovsky. Espn echo. What i think we've heard from floreal With is the packers. Believe that rogers at some point we'll take stock and the one thing that he does not want is his legacy in green bay to be tarnished to the point where He he is at the point of no return and that hill. If you will blink for the lack of better phrase or soften you wanna use a less infused word and and come back. And or sign whatever's in front. And you know i i have always a sense in in the world Of about any deal. That i've wanted to have happened in my life whether it's negotiating you know for my broadcast contract This show the show's existence Buying a home your home. Chris and mike del tufo. Yes right. tj. Do you own or rent okay. Now calling yet at some point you know You're in this position. I always have a a mindset that there's two times during a negotiation that you want to have happen two times where you'll feel like it's never going to happen to thomas. Did you ever have the experience when you're buying your your home. Yes we we end with this show. Richard felt like it was never going. Okay yeah and with the packers and rogers. They probably thought that this was absolutely going to happen. Like rodgers wasn't going to do what he's doing right now right the first time where they had to think. Oh gosh this may not happen is when they went out to california apparently and put something fun of them and there was a problem and then the schefter report comes out on that thursday the draft. And oh you know what oblique. Where now the coach. The floors feeling feeling a phone call from his good buddy call. Shannon saying hey. I'm doing my due diligence. I know that we've owned the entire new cycle for the last seven weeks about what we're doing trading all the way up to three on ready to pitch all of that if rodgers available literally that phone call and he's just like yeah. It's not happening. Click that's one time. The second time is going to be when rogers doesn't show up again. yeah. And i think they're already frontloading. The yeah this is unevenly divided fan base. Now i'm fully admitting this types mark murphy hitting send in new packers dot com to try and get rogers to understand those those aaron go pack signs that are out there. I mean that rob demovsky says somebody put on a front lawn out there in green bay like the friday night lights kind of what is that that. Maybe they're front loading to avoid that second time when rogers isn't show up because rogers i don't think is going to show up and then this is going to be another one of those moments where this deal may not get done. And they'll feel that. And rogers may feel that sort of pressure that he's hearing about that jordan. Love said that they talked a week before the off season workout program was beginning. So it's not like completely disappeared. I'm sure he's talking all of his friends on the team. And he's i. I would be stunned if he's just totally tapped out of society. Hasn't ted devante. He may know what the boots are on the ground. But all you have to see here is is what happened with farve. It can't get any worse than that in green bay. Okay the only way you can get worse than that is if rogers says i'm out. Then they go with jordan love and then he called the calls. I'm back in i. Actually i wanted to put far far multiple time. The one time that mike mccarthy said we've moved on which is what andrew brandt told the story yesterday of r- of far sand. I'm out. But now i wanna come back and mccarthy's like yet we're finally moving on aaron rodgers and i. I heard i'll tell the story. I heard that brass brass went to visit farve in the middle of all that backers correct turnoff correct went down to his. I didn't get this from far. okay. I'll just say that went to mississippi yes and went down there and visited him to tell him when maybe he thought they were coming to town to come back. They told him. Hey we'll send you want your locker. Wow wow that's what. I heard whole. Hey do you want do. We'll send it to you. Wow i might be setting something off here. Because i wasn't i don't know i'm just like telling i mean it's years ago i just don't know if this is a a a statute of limitations on this and that's when i think he realizes things over we'll box up the stuff and so true story. This is what i was told. The truth and so rodgers must know all the machinations that went behind the scenes from that and then farther went and wound up coming back into vision to play against them. So rodgers would have to say. I'm out no i'm back in. After the jordan. Love train has left the station and then go somewhere else for one year one year and then show back up and start playing for the lions or the bears which won't happen because they just got a kid or poor. Vikings who the hell knows like the. You'd have to do that and still after all of that. Who walks on water and green bay. I'm sure there might be some packers fencing. I still haven't let let it go with brett. Farve who's now showing back up and talkative at packers events. And his mr packer farve in rogers sees that but he also knew far to stand for what he stood for and then went somewhere else and then show back up and almost made the super bowl. 'cause that's what he wanted to do. And he's still mr packer. Because the packers of essentially made up with them. So you're going to go with the gambit of gail. Let's make him think the fans aren't on his side. I think that's miscalculation personally malcolm jenkins who might be defending rogers or love coming up. I mean it was bad between farve and the packers. It was really bad between them. It got really really like what the hell is happening. Bad and rogers had a front row seat to all that he knows exactly what happened. Then which is why. He's trying to head off at the past year again and he may be a sensitive game and he wants to be loved. We all do. I am so guilty as charged on that one. You know like literally me saying what i just said moments ago about the locker in my head. I'm like you know. I didn't really get the go-ahead from from anybody to tell to tell what i've heard here but i try to shoot my audience rate and there are probably many people in our industry would never think twice or care about that sort of thing. That's just the way i'm wired. I want everyone to like me. And i want to be liked and you know that's thirteen years ago and that's the end of that you know and rogers wants to be liked. He's anytime i've been around him. He's just a a fun loving guy. Whenever i've been around him and so sure on all comes down to it what he's going to be. I've got to go back there. I've just made this whole stance and yeah. Let me sign that contract. That doesn't actually allow me to affect my exit window here because man. They're putting signs up about me on front lawns. They're calling they're calling. Radio shows up. They may blew me when i show back up there far has shown back up and green bay. They love him please. They love him please. He played for the vikings. An all rogers is saying is i might retire. I wanna go play for the broncos. That's the broncos the matter what skin is it all for you when he when he. When i played for the vikings like that's one step below bears about too far like one one slice of cheese difference away for some people up there. I think that's a a poor gamut but there's a second time coming in this negotiation where it's gonna look like it's not gonna get done and as you know. Sometimes the house falls through our number two coming up right here on the rich eisen show.

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Hour 1: For the Love of the Packers

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Hour 1: For the Love of the Packers

"The keyshawn jay williams zubin podcast is brought to you in part by progressive. Have you tried the name your price tool yet. It works just the way it sounds. You tell progressive how much you wanna pay per car insurance and they'll show you coverage options that fit your budget. It's easy to start a quote and you'll be able to find that works for you. It's just one of the many ways you can save with progressive. Get your quote today. At progressive dot com and see. Why four out of five new customers recommend progressive progressive casualty insurance company and affiliates price and coverage match limited by state law jackson. Jay williams subic podcast fitting saw. Look riding t enjoyed luxy. And that's what i wanted to ask you right to it. Let's get right to it as we're looking. Look right to you at some of video of jordan. Love that mini camp with the packers in green bay. And you always say that about certain athletes you you're an observer in that way where you will look at you just like i like the way he looks like i liked what he moves right or he does the you did that. A lot about justin fields a certain nba players. You do that about that. You might not have seen him play the but i. I liked the way he looks. I like the way moves. Can i can. I have some very quickly before you ask you. I love the way some players move and how they feel some players a great in nba. warm-ups. I'm like ooh that boys. Do not think does it mean when he gets the game. It's going to look exactly the same way just saying is that there is that but because you always go with the eye of the experts like you to are but keita's so that's why i'm gonna ask you what you saw in the video you might have watched of jordan love at minicamp. Does he look right as you would say. Look right for that. I knew it jersey number. Look good on you. Just look to the number of the number fits. He looks like a pro. that's important. It's good i first step gotta look. Here's why i say because you know the jets drafted a guy christian hackenberg with the second round. Pick right the. He never looked right he look he hit a report for a throw right. He hit a reporter with a throw one time. Rich new covers jet since they were called titans. He's been there forever. It's this minicam. Oh yeah yeah hit him. Just hit the report. I wish i was there kind of george bad when i say looks right. He's following through on different drills. It just looks looks right. A certain dues. Don't look athletic. They'd be stumbling over the bags like honesty. When we first. When i first started practicing with tony romo tony. Didn't look right. Really just didn't look right. He was a rookie. He just like he looked right. He is so when you see that you're on the field. Does that affect you at all. No no because he was he was. Do you know used to joke. We're trying to help athlete. Which is crazy yeah. He offer great golfer. Great buckets all the sorties. These used like come on man the closed it went right it just. I love that question. Did it affect key. Nothing no effect key feel like i look right outline. I know what i'm bringing up the heat bringing send it my way. I'll take care of rights but jordan love. He just you know he looks. He looks right. Now here's the question guys. let's see. Does he sound right so when he talked with the media and of course you know it's going to be about how aaron rodgers is. Not here you are. You're kinda new. So how does he feel about the opportunities. He's getting because remember you'd get a lot of reps last year. No preseason and of course aaron rodgers. Got the bulk of the work. He was the number three quarterback. So here's a great opportunity for jordan. Love he discussed that obviously. This is a time where i'm getting a lot of extremely valuable reps. That might not have been getting in a normal circumstance. So non-jewish i'm gonna take it day by day in But yeah that's what. I'm here for our draft here to play quarterback so definitely be ready week one. What's it like to be jordan love. Also when's the last time you had a conversation or any sort of communication with aaron rodgers. Just been living my life man. Obviously we've got a good relationship. Talk tone probably a week before. I got out here. Straight talk wireless. No contract no compromise. So is that the right i mean. What was he going to say. I don't know if i'm gonna be ready. you know. He basically let you know pretty clear. I'm going to be ready for week. One who's he saying at least all the right things. I love the fact that he says he's going to be ready week. One if he's not ready to at least have the mentality to think you're going to be ready. I mean what do you. What do you want him to say. I'm not. I'm not sure jay before the show when you heard it the first time you said something. I thought it was very interesting. You said he's talking like it's his team. Well i think that's the biggest part for jordan. Love look. I can't control what aaron rodgers is doing. That's out of my control. What i can't control as i'm living. My life focused on the people that i have on my team and look. Is it hard for a quarterback in my position to lead. Yes but i have to act the part. I you have to act depart before you can actually be the part and i think him saying the right things. That's what you want to hear from him. I don't wanna hear somebody wavering. Somebody unsure of himself. I want somebody who's confident. Not cocky confident. That's what you want. Everybody that gets in this position jordan. Love is in right now. The team into such time. That the guy who really owns the team comes back. Where there it's tyrod taylor. And the press conference a couple of weeks ago talked about basically the houston texans being. His team has opportunity to be the starting quarterback. And that's the jordan. Love is saying he's just basically saying that. I'm gonna be ready week one because i think it his mind. He has to approach it. As if aaron rodgers will not be exactly and. I think that the coaches are telling you. Hey you gotta be ready. Cause we don't know what's going on with this guy. We have no idea but we gotta get you ready to go to beat. They're all assorted things. Important thing is from today to opening day the studying to getting in there the extra work that he needs to put in so when training camp comes back he can hit the ground running on all cylinders and take control right at that. Point obviously is going to be the most important for them. Andrew brandt who was a front office executive for the packers twitter at the pack is never admitted. But they'll be fine with aaron skipping minicamp and maybe even some training camp when far state and mississippi those off seasons we got to see aaron run the team in the off season. Great evaluation period the packers. Now do the same thing with love if it matters to you guys because as a reporter this is what we do. Rob demovsky Took note of some of the throws from minicamp. And i know you're gonna laugh but let's do it. Love was ten of seventeen with two sacks in an i. N. t wheel route to aj dylan thirty yards. Lazard deep forty five deep corner route to winfrey for thirty aaron jones. Decide line for thirty. I'm just looking at key's face keep reading tight. Ends coach is trying to like was trying to cool them off. That's how hard he was at one point. They got kind of excited around him. I know it's minicamp but this kind of matters it does. If you're a packers fan this matters. If you're the packers this matters because the day before they were saying that he couldn't hit the trash can. Yeah well it's many. And i'm going to shoot it down. Yes i knew it to be the grim reaper. Sour guy blanket. yeah. I mean many campus cards. They're gonna put the car and they're gonna go though the wheel route and he's gonna throw the wheel route because db is going to do exactly what the court says. He should just be honest though. I've seen a quarterback hit a member of the media on the sideline. at least he's hitting his target. I agree with key. But i i all are always say this. There are both things could be true. I hear what he's saying. But rob demovsky is also came on our show multiple times up and i haven't heard him talk glaringly positive about jordan love. I've heard him be very very critical. So for rob in a position. I know rob comes to the table with. Pov him to speak that way. Okay has my attention and when you say that. Let's let's listen to. What demovsky said l. dunkin on sportscenter about jordan loves improved workout in day to he was so hot and so much on fire that at one point tight ends coach justin out and went over to them and used his play card inserted fanning him off as if to pretend to cool him down he was that hot. Now you heard love say that he would be one hundred percent ready to go. If needed week. One daylight today might make the packers think that they do have an opening day starter but at this point with another day minicamp and a whole nother summer of training camp ahead of them. They're not quite ready to say that they know there's going to be good days and bad but today was definitely one of the good ones. Okay i got to slow down. Bring your back is so high now was a little bit extra was a little extra spice on out. We'll so again. The excitement has to be there. I think about it. i'm just. I'm not walking away from one day one day. Oca he is the guy of our future like you. You need a little bit more consistency for so crazy. I'm watching him. On the video his mechanics are very similar to aaron rodgers. So is weird is. His mechanics are very similar to aaron rodgers. Getting the ball out quick. But that's all part of the scheme right. It's all part of what they teach in terms of footwork ball out. Quick fake flash all that sorta stuff it just. It looks like a mirror. Image for me as i'm watching him really. Yeah of aaron rodgers it really does. I'm not kidding you in you could. You could see that. With a lot of quarterbacks they all kind of have the same mechanics because the way that the quarterback coaches teaching them. The offense coordinator is teaching that system. Right in so the footwork. All looks the same as aaron rodgers when when when i'm watching him take the the pitch in pitch it in finished through. It looks like eras. When i'm watching him. Get the ball in thought out quick. It looks like air. Rogers on the swing pass. I mean it just looks like era. Doesn't mean that it's aaron rodgers. Of course the fundamentals like he's doing all the right things right okay and then that obviously is because that's their system so you want to late as much of that system as you can. So hey all right. So jordan love has a pretty good day in many camps so at least they have that going on for them while aaron rodgers out. Yes that's straight talk. Wireless no contract. No compromise keyshawn. Jay wills ubin presented by progressive insurance august. Join us on. The goodyear hotline. We've got a busy day today. We've got a lot of great guests and a lot to get to and of course your calls eight eight say. Espn at eight seven nine. Three seven seven six speaking of calls will we called it after the first round exit. We wondered if lebron james would change uniforms he sort of has. 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Some teams have done that right out of respect to michael jordan so he six six is what he warned the olympics then then he went back to cleveland and got his number right the twenty three that he wore in cleveland. Then he went to the lakers and took twenty three and then when they were trading for anthony. Davis davis is number. He was gonna go back. Twenty three but nike said no. Go back to six. But nike said no. Because we just made all these jerseys and we gotta sell so. He couldn't do it but now he can. Because i guess they bought out the inventory. Now he's doing so because he's got space jam to coming out. He wants to go back to six. You see what he's going to do. Now with the lakers. it was just announced. I don't think as anything to do with space jam to well. That's i believe that's the plan. I think that's the plan. And that's what they say. Part of the marketing have you. Have you know like the one thing i always like about. Lebron's he always stays motivated right. So do you see what he posted the other day with. Russell crowe gladiator. I will have my vengeance and it really is set the internet on fire he was. That's what i'm talking about for next year. There was a night when he didn't use the washed king. Hashtag this time though. No he did not do right but there are some someone. Brown went to miami bra became the villain remember that but i think there was a different edge. There's a different fire tim that you saw with the way he played. And i think sometimes it's almost like rocky balboa when rocky rocky one like rockies are really gritty grindley streets philly by the time you see rocky like rocky two rocky three rockies kind of like the champ. He's getting all that that fame. He's driving around but like rocky always define like that grit that guy. He wants to get back to rockies. I'll digress. you didn't feel like we may see that version of bron in la with six again. I do because. I think that's brian saying i'm gonna have my vengeance and i'm gonna have it. We don't get it back. You might think that might be done. You might think that we might be injured but we're going to find a way whether we get a third party or whether it's just my mentality in general like i'm coming back with that same kind of bigger that same kind of fire next year. I don't know where to go. I mean twenty. Three six doesn't change anything for me yet. Had a hell of a year Other than injury intersect injuries slowed him down. Otherwise they otherwise we would be. We would be right in the hunt for another championship. So if you changing your number to six and it's gonna keep you healthy. Do it whatever you hit on to sick with whatever you need to do right. Those sixty six all day long. Well the gas station. You've said you liked to you. Know this guy looks like this number this that number. So what is lebron. You're is what does he looked like to you. He well sixty young six. Oh six by bringing back to the youth the fountain of youth that he had a my answer number. He warned he. I yeah. But i understand that but six in miami where he won championships. He looked like a young lebron. I don't even think he had facial hair like they're right. He was kind of he just looked young. The beer didn't really come in and didn't really tell me. Yeah so if you wanna rock six is fine. I mean whatever you don't but yeah but wait wait. You can't say whatever after you've made such a big deal about numbers. Yeah you already wars vic deal lordy war what looks right. And what's nothing new. He's already seen him at six. Three six hundred feet fits him better. Twenty-three fits that was twenty. That's what i would say twenty. Three's his six is sort of that when he went off to college and played at miami. Is this one like i think. Brown found himself miami and in a different light. Okay and i think that's right. La with twenty dollars. No i understand why. I bring out correlation into i. I think that lebrons about the be what he's going to play next season. Thirty six thirty seven thirty seven thirty seven right. So you're finding a new iteration of yourself again but see when you think about. Mj win at forty five. Forty five was just gross. Like throw that in the trash immediately. Forty five him was greg why he got rid of it. He realize minutes were that that was his baseball. It was ugly. I kind of like who forty five in baseball. You know any good rock forty five isn't garrett cole. Forty five forty five is grows. It's not a good number for jordan for basketball. It's not such a bad number pointing to al. Yeah that's what i thought he thinking about. It was a new on just didn't say he was in his eyes for a guy like you with a forty five c. They're actually did freshman year. Forty five in freshman year the sides of the shirt so big. You can stick your hands or the forty five. Were you a five. Did you wear that t shirt underneath news. We weren't you weren't allowed but would you. would you wear. Oh yeah i was so skiing of course would have wanted t shirt. They let me. They weren't allowed for you. Know what. I will admit this by mice. That's how low on the totem pole was. My shorts. did not match the jersey. I was the guy that got the jersey but the shorts were different. Like i had the away shorts even if i was home. Was that guy. Low budget at the time catholic high school. We didn't have a lot of money. They do now at least you watch Yeah i got kenny kenny anderson. Who's the same age as me. Do things on the court that may be go. Okay get better at school. That's a point guy right there. That's not that kid when he wanted him. Front-row kenny anderson's different maga. La right now in jersey. I would agree with that. What did you think of what pat riley apparently got fined twenty five grand prix. This is because the doormat. Just in case you wanna come in. So he was. He did a radio interview. He said he was asked about lebron bre he was asked lebron. And it was just about like do you think he'd ever come back and play for the heat and he said i would love. I would leave the key under the doormat if he would call me to let me know. He's coming he said i wouldn't i. Wouldn't i would do that. But i doubt very much that that he would he would come back. He said that key is rusted. Now they just said lebron grace of all time the for years down here. You remember those four years finals. Lot of excitement to world championships. It was the best time for the heat. So i wish him nothing but the best but if you ever wanted to come back i would put a shiny key under the mat now. That's the tampering part. Basically suggesting if he wanted to come back we would. We would take them back. So twenty. five grand is money. Now go lebron when lebron able to wound can you move. Then he'd do three right so he's got an option option. But i mean but he's he's locked emmy right. I don't know if you go back to my. Can i just tell you though. I lived in miami for two years around that same time and when i tell you the streets key it will be. Streets were packed to where pat. And you see people literally going from like clubs space and there's another club next space that i won't mention because we're a pg show Literally you'll be trickling out of the out of the arena into space into the other club back to the arena. That area was incredible on a game night. That area as the kids say lit. But you know what after game six people are trying to get back in the building as you remember yes. Little speaking of lebron what lebron. Cpi three and tom brady all have in common. This is a metaphor for your business journey. Sometimes it feels like the world is throwing everything it has at you and to succeed. You need someone to guide you through. That's dell technologies advisors. Do they have the tech advice to help you. 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I'm going to phoenix y'all but the sun's going to phoenix yet game to another another performance where the sun's like they are outclassing denver in their mvp and another game where michael malone the head coach of the nuggets says some strong words about his team's performance member. Yes they were talking about. How mike budenholzer of the bucks seems kind of Would say vanilla on his response after his team got smoked by the nets in game two but michael malone once again just with with the flame thrower on his team after the game. Take a listen to how he talks about his team. Showing basically looked like they quit One team that wanted to be here and play with a purpose and urgency and once the did not want to be here and play with no urgency And that's why we got her asking. Think about that will barton now. He came back from injury. Hadn't played in seven weeks at ten point sixteen minutes and malone was basically and he's the only one that showed up so calling out his team but i ain't that who do i like it. I think it's important. What's that gonna do for you to go back to denver. He's gonna rally the troops defend home court. We'll see what the bucks tonight defend home court. Rally the troops. I think you have to say something publicly. Do i never believe in this whole idea that you'd like to me if it's in your character of course if that's not who you are you said this and you're absolutely right if that's not who you are and elves and you start yelling screaming you're placing look you like. What are you doing. But if that's who he is. He's a fiery coach. Zac going to all of a sudden slowdown chris. Paul devin booker in andrea aid. Is that all of a sudden going to stop them from the way they feel well things they've gotta do xs and os took. It doesn't matter though that all not making him. Sorry that mvp gotta do more. Yes he's got to do more of course. It's so if that is how you get him motivated to do more than yeah. It may work but you still got the team on the other side. Who's paid to beat you so you now got to figure out how to stop them so it doesn't matter to you or to either of you guys. If the coach says anything publicly at all what we did wrong i do. I don't get caught up in. I've never got caught up in a coach san something. But you've played the guys that do bill parcells is say something public yet. But you know. I already know before you. A coach walked to the podium rome from the time. That the the clock ticks down to the time i get in the locker room. I already not getting ready to say so. It doesn't really register to me. Jay may look at it differently. But i don't know if this is about players or if it's just about of course your team it's something you know. It's like here in raw emotion. Yeah i it's not anything against a measured response where somebody who's way more laid-back whereas more judicious approach to in by give that strategy works like phil jackson getting always give you a raw emotional response but he was blunt sometimes and i i like more gluttonous i like that. I will say though that. I'm looking at composite. Oh the point guard who's a rookie denver which mall murray will be an nba finals. Next year. i will say denver with jamal. Murray a healthy michael porter jr. yokich whoa bar in able to keep this core group together. We'll be an nba finals. We'll be in the nba narrow. Keep in mind klay thompson. Western a western conference. That's gonna just like the ron and number six by half up to say about six. I don't i don't i don't know what other movement will happen. Granted there's a lot of movement but you guys act like jamal. Murray didn't set the nba on fire last year. In the bubble right. And so. I'm just saying if i add that to the equation of what. This team has with the pieces. With aaron gordon with the way they play and they have a lot of pieces there defensively to with their depth to be there there. There are show themselves right now. Guys like compost composite and michael porter. Jr. who was bad last night because his back was injured. Couldn't play it was. You're watching yokich barn. Borrowing against the entire phoenix suns team and michael calling out the rest of his group about that. So we'll see how they respond to this. But you mentioned it key and it is obviously the such a a key piece of the success of the phoenix suns. And that's chris paul and what he's been doing. Seventeen points fifteen assists and thirty one minutes twenty six assists and one turnover in the. I miss the most important status zero turnover. Yeah that's that's the big part of last night. So it's it's think about this so at his age. Yes the impact that he's still can have on a team. We saw wherever he's gone. He was with the clippers when he got to the clippers. That the clippers no longer. Were the clippers right now. He helped turn that even though they went into championship that franchise. That was the best. They've ever been right then. He goes to houston and he helps. James harden get to a western conference. Final get very very close. He's got the hamstring injury that he goes to oklahoma city. Which look like okay. It's it's over for. Chris paul he just gonna shutdowns young team. He changed that culture. He as the mentality of certain players those players. They're talked about his impact of him there. And now he's in phoenix and he takes a phoenix team. Had a young core. And they're much different team as well. I mean when you think about guys who are culture changers in sports or he's got to be top of that list he goes there and he's already shown you wherever he goes. The culture change the culture changes other players do that. Okay see finish second to last conference this year or the fourth worst team in the nba. Be removed chris. Paul i look at phoenix. Yeah they went on a bubble but they make the playoffs last year. I mean now to finish the second best record in the nba. Who's on the team c. P. three was the change. They made right see three. So it's the it's the level that cpi because he makes everybody else around him better. You know that the ball doesn't just stick to his hand he puts you in positions to succeed and that's what you love about the style in which he plays and he's a leader You know i. I know in his throughout his career his personality some people felt like his personality rubs other guys on this team the wrong way at times and stuff like that. But that's what leaders about and la is about to become an issue. Yeah but leadership is about those sorts of things. Everything ain't a pat on the back. Oh oh you. Here's a donut. For you and the little rabbit. No it's not about that. It's about the grind this about a certain mentality that you have in even though at his age nobody's gonna working let alone are thinking in so when i look at it. That's why i wanted to win a championship so badly because he deserves to have the opportunity to at least play in the final. You'd be you'd be happy to see him get that far now. We know lebron does this wherever he goes the culture changes and wherever he leaves it goes the other what we did. Impact well different talent because of his. Not the have talent but lebron is just superhuman. Like but i. I will say. Cpi three is on the verge of superhuman man and just a different. He's they don't call him point god for no reason yet how. His talent is cerebral. Let me put this matrix and slow it down for you. Make you excel where. I hear what you're saying to on the bronze athletic ability to get to his level. Chris paul i think makes you trust him so much that you believe more in yourself than you ever did before. Because he's there with you and you see how he sees the game now. Could you say the same thing about tom brady. And when he went yes but did he change the culture there or was he just a piece that fit. They already have something with bruce arians in that group. That was just missing. That one piece was the missing piece. Oziel changer in tampa. I think it's i think it was the most thing piece. Okay in timing meaning light. It was their first year a year ago. Prior to the super bowl they were awed. Okay team except they were turnover prone right. The defense was decent gelling and todd. Bowles is doing a great job. They remove the one constant problem. Which would a turnover and they bring a guy in. That wasn't going to turn the football over. At an alarming rate like jameis winston on top of that he brings a certain championship. Pedigree entrust factor so players naturally gravitate toward that in. It becomes something different culture. Changing me is when bill parcells comes into the new york jets in fires the security quite at the doer. Because we don't need him. I got something else or bill. Parcells decides to blow out the the equipment staff or the the strength conditioning. And bring somebody in. That's going to keep us one hundred percent healthy and change our diets in change the way we think that to me is culture change. I think they already had a culture change from whoever i forgot who the coach was prior to bruce arians. Coming in that coaches started to shift in change because they were in the mix winning a lot of games if it wasn't for the turnover machine that's why when they realized we can't we can't get to james smith. I gotta get somebody i could communicate with. And they went. Got various famously. Said i can get anybody to thirty turns so for me to coach. Foundation was already set. When bruce todd bowles took over it in. Tom came in and did something that they needed to be done. Which is. I'm not turning the ball over and i'm going to show your heart not to turn the ball over and we can win. Say the word. Change is probably not the correct word key used other words shift. i think. That's more applicable in both cases right. Because i think you have to give the head. Coach is a lot of credit for that shift or for that change. So bruce arians monty williams head coach of the phoenix suns right allowing chris. Paul or tom brady to put their imprint on organization as well. Because i mean it's just you know. I may have been doing it this way but now i have tom brady tom. How'd you like to do that and key. You and i are both a lot of coaches that say. Hey look how great you are. I'm doing it my way. I'm not doing it your way. it'd be successful. That's what i'm saying. Exactly and they listen to you and say i'm going to shift and we're gonna mold are ways to get. Brady's presence obviously had a major through. That was a little jewelry. Him in and you cut down thirty interceptions however many fall. But it's also tom like it's the guys before him. Abc come live with me. Yes there's shifting or of who the guy is to. He is some people. Don't want to work out quarterback even though they played with it. They don't rock with him like that thing like i don't feel the same with devon booker. Cpi three came in and said hey. This is not my team. This is our team. Yeah i'm gonna learn from devon booker. He didn't need to say that. Right now i mean that that part that part again about brady though there. I do think it's about his presence more than anything else. And you know when we talked to the shawn mccoy eighty go to the psych minto kings. They may go to the playoffs. Brady to the sacramento kings to say. Oh well it's still shady said yesterday to us about brady. And the way he spoke about him you could tell that there was definitely reference to who he is and being able to be in the same locker with him and then even saying i think he could play another. You might play another two three years which also says a lot about what they think about his condition and then on top of it brady reveals that he played with a knee injury. That might need surgery all last year. So a lot of stuff really involving brady in the headlines last couple of days. And let's talk to sal paolantonio about that many other things right now on the goodyear hotline sal. Good morning good to talk to you. Good morning. I just spent two days with the bucks and tom brady and You know it's it's quite amazing what he has done there. And just a short period of time in bringing a winning culture there in a winning attitude manifest itself in so many specific ways and even some of the things that we just found out in the last couple of days. were totally. Remarkable to me like what's out. Well i mean tristen works Same to us extemporaneously. That brady was teaching the offensive line. How to block for him last year brady told him don't get beaten side and don't get beat early and i'll be Which is unbelievable. The coaching the offensive line into exactly what he wants. And and that to me just stood out and then and and then also in the way that he communicates each and every day with each and every player texting them. The winning attitude was it a win the super bowl. We're going to win this game the night before the game. and how. They revealed that energy positivity that came from him was just not there In years past so the way. He communicates individually with players. The way he pays attention to the minute details of what he's trying to do on offense You know it. It's just quite remarkable. it really is. How healthy was tom last year. On the way to the super bowls out you know key. I thought it was pretty darn healthy. Considering what he accomplished but then when you hear him talk about the fact that he was limited because of the knee injury. And that's a whole other discussion about why that wasn't disclosed. But you know you can now figure out why he was so off in the first six to eight games of the season and why he needed to be protected more and a lot of credit really needs to go key to byron left which the offensive coordinator. The team and. i talked to. Bruce arians about that when i had that one on one interview with him a couple of days ago and it was really left which brady who decided you know. We're going to go heavy a lot and they did. They used a lot of sits offensive. Linemen during the season they ratcheted up in the second half of the season and they really used it quite a bit. In the postseason heavy packages making sure that brady was posted and not touched and that allowed him to have a comfort ability key in the pocket so that he could drive the ball downfield. And you know what was one of the funniest. I thought ironic moments of the two days. That i was with the team was when brady said yesterday. In the zoom call with reporters. Well now that my knee is one hundred percent. I'm gonna be able to do some things that i couldn't do last year and i i didn't get a chance to ask a follow up question. 'cause you don't get to ask those questions really on zoom call. I wanna ask them like what like. What are you gonna do. When three point contest with lebron james he could play. First base for the yankees. What are you gonna do. I mean what are we talking about. Here you're gonna play backup singer for the rolling stones. What else do you beat. It'd be patrick mahomes in the super bowl And won a super bowl at age. Forty three and i. I'm being facetious about it. But i'm trying to think about what what he's talking about that he's going to be able to do better this year. Do more this year. what would it be. give back. Give back faster lineup. Quicker in his sets Maybe slide in a pocket. Faster more sort of me not to do that. Last year was super. I'm saying i'm like what what are you. What else you gotta do bro. Well maybe maybe healthy tom brady. That does those things. Take him on a quest to be seventeen and who knows they re. Patrick mahomes said mahomes said that has the goal. Sal i'm i'm i'm also curious about with the bucks th they're not talking about running back right. They didn't want to use that terminology but they brought the group back so these their mentality has to be. You said you were just around them. That their mentality has to be repeat right. Is that something there openly as they openly talk. You said tom brady talk but winning the superbowl they they back to talking about that again win another one. They're not talking about it publicly. And bruce arians won't talk about it you know. When i was talking to him he said you know my mindset and you know. This comes from a lot of head coaches Is that that team last year won the super bowl and this teams at different you okay. That's a nice talking point. That's a way to stay off of the bulletin board material. But the bottom line is you've got all twenty two starters back and you may have a more healthy break it last year and oh by the way your division just got a whole lot weaker. You breathe retired. Julio jones is out of the conference. Sam darnold is the quarterback the panthers. So you're and you have the third easy you get all the third easiest schedule in the national football league this year so the path is without a doubt setup for for them to have an opportunity to do what arians said. He put up on the bulletin board in the locker room incident. Let's get home field throughout. let's make the road back to the super bowl a little bit easier. But also you gotta remember. I talked to him about this a lot right. I said listen. It's a seventeen game and not for nothing. The guy's going to be forty four on. Just he's coming off knee surgery. He goes yeah understand. And we're gonna try to manage that as best we can little way who's but it's and he's defying all expectations by tell you what if he goes back to back at age forty four he's gonna be defying more than that really is something to say right that there's nothing more for him to accomplish and yet he continues to set those goals for himself. Sal always great to talk to you. Thanks for joining us this morning. Thank you for having me on the show lubbock rather than forty four years old should just let his hair grow all just full gray if he could get a full beard thompson. I'm like all grizzly castaway cay zubin presented by progressive. Insurance is coming up. Why pakistan's longer worried that love stinks. Wow wow things. Were listening to keyshawn. Jay williams zubin make sure to subscribe rate and review. You can hear the show weekdays at six eastern on. Espn radio espn news. 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Trendzone  Julio Jones Trade

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Trendzone Julio Jones Trade

"Traveling another dimension. A dimension comprised a wondrous land whose boundaries are more distantly outer reaches of the twitter sphere. Your style the zone callow to trenton. Casey who were they were the football. Dude dave are you ready. My brother got that right. My friend i all there. Our next stop is the trend zone in today's episode. We'll check in with mandatory minicamp in green bay and see if their main man was there. Also we'll talk about the huge trade. That sent julio jones to the titans at what that means for both the titans ended the falcons. And we're gonna shove all our chips to the middle of the table as remember an nfl. Coaching legend day. Before we get rolling brother. Do you have a tasty. chris. People's i'm going to give a little to the peeps casey. I'll tell you what the seventeenth game. Casey the fact that it's nfc versus afc has resulted in some pretty tasty matchups including fourteen super bowl. Rematches in this twenty twenty one season the biggest season ever including super bowl. One packers at chiefs in week nine. That sounds awesome. Actually the most recent super bowl matchup that will be rekindled will be the patriots falcons. That's week eleven man. That's thursday night or two. Obviously the falcons might have a little vengeance on their minds. They're right yeah that beka still little honoring how that second. Half point ary falcons dave. Speaking of anri bro. Aaron rodgers there was speculation if he would or would not show up for. Mini camp was a no show at packers. Mandatory minicamp on tuesday confirming a lack of grunted. Mvp he also missed ota's for the first time in his career this spring. But dave those were voluntary and what do voluntary mean. hey man it doesn't mean mandatory. That's for sure. And you know by skipping this minicam casey. It's the first time he's ever done. And it's costing a mini campus him. Ninety three thousand which is trump change. He's already given up five hundred thousand dollars for missing. Ota in terms of a workout bonus right but that's nothing compared to what he would be giving up if he were to stay away. And let's say. I guess retire it would be giving up his fourteen point seven million dollar salary for this year and he'd have to have to pay back just about thirty million bucks dude. That's almost forty five million dollars to not play football coming off the mvp season man. Well too bad. They haven't been able to find any pictures of that. Infamous roger sour by running that d role. He's always smile man. Yeah did you know that might be bad. News for packers hand but there is some good news jordan love but is that good news for packer fans if well according to espn's rob demovsky. Casey love has quote struggled with accuracy during practice. That's kind of important especially when you're not really playing against the defense right. Obviously you know not the best sign going. Twelve of twenty three in the l. Team activities there as well as the failed. Two minute drill man but you know they did see the bright side. Which is that arm. That they liked the arm strength. Is there casey. So they've got raw talent there. And maybe he gets over the jitters. It gets enough snaps under his belt with rodgers. Not there that he can. He can get it really going. who knows. It reminds me of a young uncle. Rico well dave you know who was back on the field minicamp my guy dak prescott baby man. Yeah man and mccarthy expects back to be a forego for the training camp coming off that bum ankle issue there and that is exciting news for the cowboys catalyze dude after what we saw last october. And how awful that pit. My stomach feld just not knowing what the hell is going on and seeing how tragic the rest of the season was. That's out good news and there are hopefully going to be out here in oxnard and maybe do some joint practices with the rams. So that's all tvd but it is very exciting for the cowboy fans. I like joints. Okay haitao dave why we're here baby. Julio jones it seemed like he was only a matter of time before this trade went down specifically june first but julio jones officially at tennessee toy yeah man and wow the titans getting jones falcons of course get out of it a twenty twenty two second rounder in a two thousand twenty three fourth rounder and the titans get julio jones in a six rounder back in two thousand three pretty awesome acquisition. Obviously huge talent so they titans take on jones's salary of fifteen point three million and two more years after that but he does has made some sounds noises as if he would like a restructuring. At least probably at the end of this. Next season falcons of course seven point seven five million dollars in dead money this year as a result of moving jones's contract but they were under the gun in terms of their salary cap. They needed to do something. And this was the piece they had to get rid of. Yeah dude they didn't even have money to sign their draft class you move. Julio aging superstar you draft picks a tight end you have calvin ridley emerging as one of the the top receivers in this league. So david this feels like a win. On the falcons but this might be their second win on this. Julio de aza when we go back in time to to the twenty eleven drag. Gotta do me another casey thomas to dmitrov dude and it was a huge trade. Actually he can't contact check bell check said no no too much too much to give up but he went ahead and did it anyways right they. They were selecting twenty seven. They traded that pick with the browns to get up to the sixth pick overall and they gave up their first. Rounder that twenty-seventh pick as well as their second and fourth rounders in two thousand eleven and their first and fourth rounders. And so it seemed like a crapload that they gave up for. Julio here but the browns of course made all those picks and it's a package of dudes that don't amount to. Julio jones career by any stretch of the imagination they got brandon. Weeden was the starter for a little while the quarterback position but we ultimately that we'd man did not win the trade. For the browns the falcons came away pretty good and now after ten years of great service from julio they get a little something back to sort of mitigate originally gave up for him so atlanta well done yeah dude and now you're getting one of the best all times to tennessee offense that you know is not lacking for that big play but you look at what julio's done and you know it's so impressive dude. Oh no question. Yeah i mean obviously over the ten years that he's been there with the falcons he's just been a dominant player. Eighteen hundred plus yards one year. Almost seventeen hundred another year selected to the pro bowl seven times and all pro twice. So yeah the titans. Obviously in a situation where they're looking to add talent and this is a big time talent. Yeah do you speaking of these titans man. They've been in the playoffs through the last four years almost got to the super bowl. Nine nineteen almost beat those chiefs and The south last year so they look like they're pretty damn close so yeah julio's you know thirty two towards the end of his career but you gotta think there's still something left there. They had corey. Davis who was just. He was the fifth overall. Pick just a few years ago. Last year he had sixty five catches almost a thousand yards of five. Td's who did almost that in. Just nine games. Dave you look and you think kind of banged up. He was last year. But that's not really been the case yet. Hasn't casey and i felt the same thing. But you know last year obviously didn't play as many games but prior to that he did have some injuries but he played through. The injuries was very productive in fact since twenty. Fourteen casey's flake ninety two of ninety six games possible to him and he's been very productive. He averaged over one hundred catches per season over that six year span. So i think it was almost one hundred four catches the season so being that's the productivity that any football team can add right. Yeah why this make sense for the titans. We mentioned corey davis gone. They also allows jonnu smith. He went to the patriots. But the titans added from the rams. We saw this guy like josh reynolds. He likes this is really going to open up his game. But dave the contractor. Corey davis with jazz three years. Thirty eight million dollars. That's right about where hulu as you mentioned showed. He would like to see new contract. Let's see that paid off. That's kind of a wash though when you talk about the money but you cannot deny julio's impact on an offense man. This is going to make this a brutal team already. Have king henry back. There's led the league in rushing two years ago. Now you have one of the biggest set of receivers on maybe in the history of football right mean. Are you going to try and double cover one or both of those guys. And then they're just going to hand the ball off if there's not eight in the bucks it's advantage. Titans advantage king henry. Yeah they're they're looking to really really make it difficult on the defenses in the nfl and dude. Aj brown tried to give. Julio lebanese steady wouldn't take it dot maybe a return to eight. That's if he could pride away from rookie. Punter james smith sorry schmidt you gotta get a new number eight. Just rip the name tag off. Those old mario jerseys bom there you go man. Save a couple of bucks man. Yeah but actually it just came out today that hulu will be wearing number to save your money titan. Fan and hopefully. You didn't destroy that. Mario jersey just yet and go get the. Julio but dave they ac- south is wide open man tons of trouble in houston down their first year quarterback with trevor lawrence first year coach in jacksonville and the calls look like they have a lot of the pieces in place but carson wentz is coming off a couple terrible season so the time is now for these titans. They've been close and that defense needed a lot of work. Of course they spent a ton of picks in the draft on defense they added bud pre jenkins ended nico autry so you know it's it might be the time to get it going. So tennessee's like yeah. Let's do this right now. I think it's an awesome awesome when when your team is that close and it gets. It gets great when you're going to the playoffs every year but then you actually went to win the super bowl. That's where this titans team is right now. And that's this might be the missing piece right now. Obviously this offseason what they've done with their roster and and adding julio man. It's just going to be very very exciting to see what they're able to do and he's out of the nfc so that's good news for me in the super bowl. Alright dave i want to talk a little bit about alex smith. This was the two thousand twenty. Nfl comeback player of the year and espn e. sixty just relieved the project. Eleven alex smith final drive dude. And if you haven't seen this thing go out and watch it right now. Just a remarkable journey dude. You cannot believe what this guy did to get back to the nfl. Yeah no question about a case mean. He had so many setbacks there when you think about his whole career he always seemed to overcome adversity. You know he was obviously the first overall draft pick so that wasn't adversity there. But then the pressure of performing ultimately replaced as the starter in san francisco moved on to kansas city and then was prospering. They're taking them to the playoffs. Just like you did with forty niners and of course they draft mahomes and replace him again. It goes to washington and he's leading the redskins and suddenly the horrible horrible leg break. That obviously led him to this situation. But he wasn't going out like that either casey. He was going to find a way to come back and man surgery after surgery and the infections. I like you said you just got to watch the show to really fully embraced. What what he went through totally do the doctors at one point in this documentary saying to hell with the leg. We're just trying to save this guy's life and for him to come back not only to be able to walk again. Not only states lake to compete at the nfl. He went five in one with washington last year. Remarkable story if you weren't a fan of alex smith before this you're to be huge. Alex smith fan. After you watch it go out check it out. You will not regret it. Yeah absolutely right. Dave a little bit of sadness on the trend zone today. Jim fossil whose bowl guarantee of a playoff bid late in two thousand and season catapulted the giants to a spot. In the super bowl coach fossil passes away at seventy one man fossils ninety ninety seven. Nfl coach of the year was the giants head coach from ninety seven to two thousand. Three fifty eight fifty three in one obviously lake mentioned got the team to the super bowl two and three and postseason including the loss in in the super bowl to the ravens there in two thousand and one but Definitely a classy guy man. And when he all his chips in the center of the table he's all in man that was that was a bold statement that was and he paid it off. Yeah did we were fortunate enough to get me and work with coach fossil when we were covering the ufl short-leg leave when he was the head coach of the las vegas locos. He was very accommodating very generous with his time. And you could just tell the guy love football and he was just so cool us a lasting impact for sure. Yeah living in vegas down there. A didn't didn't couldn't get rid of the passion to coach and that was a perfect outlet for him to be able to coach a shorter season. And erin those a three and a half years. Whatever he was very very successful in that short stint there and man yeah he will be missed. Yeah you mentioned he just love to mold young men into men like i said it was such a pleasure to get to work with him. He was just a class act and very gracious to us so definitely appreciated there all right dave. We're going to wrap it up on that note. Let the people know so many ways to check out the football dude trends what. You're listening to right now. Available for free for subscription on certify apple podcasts. Google podcasts tune in stitcher blueberry. Wherever the hell you get your podcast. Yeah also subscribe to our youtube channel like us on instagram and facebook. follow us on twitter at football dudes. La tonight to kick it old school. Just go to football dudes dot com. Yeah that is going to do it for this episode of the trend zone. He's dave i'm casey we are out of here.

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Hour 1: Tom Brady 2021 Expectations

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Hour 1: Tom Brady 2021 Expectations

"Good morning it's time to get up with a love story jordan. Love will tell you if he's ready to take the reins. Aaron rodgers has gone plus. Tom brady stunning admission about his injured knee. And when he actually heard our guys will tell you why the rest of the league to take notice immediately and why dancing deck may have everything to do with the cowboys making a deep run in twenty twenty one and good morning. I'm ryan smith in for mike greenberg and we are thrilled to get up with you on this busy day today. We'll get to the nba playoffs. And just a minute. We've got tons of football to get to with these guys right here in studio dan. Graziano chris canty louis riddick looming large over both of them. So let's get into it and start with the biggest quarterback storylines at mandatory minicamps. When you talk quarterbacks you gotta start with tom. Brady first tamplin. Tb twelve is back on the field after wearing a brace on his left knee after undergoing surgery in february. It's an injury. He's been dealing with since last spring now over to dallas dak. Prescott is back on the field after dislocating his fractured right ankle. Last season prescott signed a four year. One hundred sixty million dollar deal in marks and in green bay aaron rodgers absent twenty twenty first round pick jordan. Love is taking the i team snaps and yesterday. He was asked if he's ready to be the week. One starter percent Obviously this is a time where i'm getting a lot of extremely valuable reps. That might not been getting in a normal circumstance so non just i'm to take it day by day in a but yeah that's something. That's what i'm here for draft here to play quarterback so i will definitely be ready week one so he is ready. And let's bring in rob demovsky because he's ready as well. Rob what did you see from jordan. Love yesterday minicamp well ryan. If day one of many camp was his worst day day to was probably his best day since the packers drafted him more than a year ago. There was a on the first day it was inaccuracies and check down and an unwillingness to throw the ball down the field and day to was the complete opposite. He was throwing darts down the field. He was pushing the offense. He was completing pass after. Pass after pass getting into a rhythm that really energize the practice a day earlier. The two minute drill completely failed went nowhere on day two. capped it. With an eight yard touchdown pass to allen lazard to win the drill at one point ryan. He was so hot and so much on fire. One of the assistant coaches took his play card in started fanning jordan. Love off as if to say we've got a cool you down. He was so hot. Oh man that is exactly what packer fans want to hear. Now jordan love talked about how he's one hundred percent ready to be the day one starter. If aaron rodgers isn't there so do the packers actually feel the same way. Do they think that love can be ready to start week one. No one's ready to go that far yet ryan and it's because of what we've seen so far one day bad one day good today. They're just going day by day. this is day. Three of the mandatory mini camp. They have one more week next week of some. Ota type practices and they've said nothing about week one. They still obviously want aaron rodgers. Pack here what the the progress that they saw yesterday has to give them at least some hope. That jordan love could be ready if they need them. Don't forget they also have veteran. Blake bortles here as an insurance policy but right now they're focused ryan is on getting jordan. Love reps he can. They're dividing them up in a way. That love is taking massive reps one after another. After another on day one. He went sixteen straight snaps on day. Two is long. Stretch was eleven straight snaps rather than rotation jordan. Love all in right now. Are i get them. The rabbs very different from last year where he barely got that time because after all he was behind an mvp rob demovsky. Thank you so much for that report. Now let's bring in our guys lewis. Chris and dan graziano. I gotta say overwhelmed. That you guys are getting believe it. It's surreal but i love it. Dan start with you. What's your reaction to that. And how jordan love played yesterday. I think it's important to keep rob's perspective in mind. Which is you can't really go day by day. Like oh what did he look good. Did he look bad. What does that mean for the big picture jordan. Love is still in a developmental phase. He didn't have a preseason last year. Didn't have a real off season last year. Didn't take a first team all season long. Because aaron rodgers took them all so he shouldn't be ready yet based on his experience and what they were projecting for him the more reps he gets the better. That's the silver lining of aaron rodgers. Absence for the packers. Right now is jordan. Love getting more reps than he. Would if rodgers were there in terms of whether he can be ready week one. I remember talking to their gm. Brian gouda training camp. A couple of years ago right after they hired leffler and he said one of the things they liked about. The floor was not only. Could he manage the team in the short term with rogers but also could help shepherd them into whatever came next whatever. It was next for them at the quarterback position so they believe in their coaching staff and his ability to get jordan love ready. They just didn't think they were going to have to do this soon. So that's where the trick is tough trick for him right. You got to win now. Battelle got gotta be ready to win later and later is now. So what do you make of. How jordan love is playing right. Now and i'll that might impact the season we'll right. I don't think we can read too much into it. I mean we're talking about being out there with no pads on the guys can't hit the quarterback so it gets it makes it tough. It makes it a little bit. Tricky to get a true evaluation of exactly what stage of development jordan love is in the one thing that i will say dan point about this being the silver lining for rodgers absence that he has an opportunity to be able to operate offense being able to get guys in and out of the huddle being able to get to the line of scrimmage and make all the checks the more reps that he gets at that the better off he was going to be. Because let's remember going back to a year ago when they were making the decision to draft him coming out of utah state. One of the things about jordan. Love was he's got an immense physical talent but he's not necessarily going to be a finished product when he gets to the nfl. He's going to need some time. He's gonna need some rep so the fact that we haven't been able to have preseason games the fact that he hasn't had that opportunity to see that lobby. Nfl competition the more rep steady gets in the off season the more prepared. He's gonna be if he's thrust into action. This regular sixty. I find it interesting that you say he's going to need some time. So lewis i come to you. I get that too. I mean he has not had the reps. But here's the thing he's got to be able to win now entitled town. We want to champion. So how does that play out with how he is doing now and whether he can. This can still be a playoff team. Jordan love is quarterback to get the remember. There's there's a lot of things that are still in place that are positive for green bay going forward if aaron in fact makes good on his promise never played for the packers again. This is a football team that has consistency at the highest levels in terms of mandate struck management structure coaching staff structure. The head coach is the same head coach on offense of oriented head coach. So that always bodes. Well for young quarterback daniel hackett still dolphins a coordinator. That's always a big plus for a guy like jordan love going into a second year they have one of the strongest offensive lines in the nfl. Two very good running back to have a very good tight end and robert time and they had the volunteer adams draft maury rogers allen lazard. So th there's a lot of things right now. They're really bode well for jordan love in the short term as he continues to develop and then in the long term by long-term i mean september october november. If in fact he is the star because he is surrounded by a good football team. This is a good offense a system. This is a system that has been proven to be very very efficient at the nfl level. So it's not like he's coming in with some owen fourteen and fifteen type of structure around and a new coaching staff and not a whole lot of things setting him up to succeed. There's a reason to be optimistic. Both short and long-term let's see how it goes as stacks some days on top of one another but this is just a cycle that we're in right now. We know this is such an explosive story. We know he would be potentially replacing a hall of famer. We're going to scrutinize every single throw. I don't care if it's individual seven on seven inside 707 team. It doesn't matter. We're going to scrutinize everything. That's just the world we live in but he is set up for success better than what people maybe what to really admit to you. Make a great point. He's got a great group around him but at the same time. This kind of pressure for a guy like that essentially coming into rookie is a very difficult situation. All right guys gonna talk a lot more about the packers and the nfl coming up a first to the game of the night in the nba nuggets suns game two. There's nikola yokich the league. Mvp let's see how he would do he show he's mvp early. Michael porter miss yokich. Put back joke fifteen points in the first half wrestling nuggets team though just twenty seven and then here come the sons. Call the sars right. Their sons up. Seven hundred three to go in the half devon booker with the steel and just puts it away sons up ten leading by ten into the half third quarter sons but they just kept it rolling. Jae crowder watching right here. There's a little sidestep calmly hit the threes and walk by vinci added that suns up seventeen about three thirty to play in the third sons up. Eighteen in that happened became bridges with the dunk later under nine. Play see joke. It's his frustration. Because chris paul was doing things like this nailing the three seventeen points fifteen sons win fans fired up and so it was mike malone once that wanted to be here and play with the purpose and urgency and once the did not want to be here and play with no urgency And that's what we got kicked and there's a reason that they're crowd is yelling sons in four and the call for sweet because we play this back in denver. This is going to be really quick. Series fired up for a very different reason. Why the nuggets. A one man team last night. Nikola yokich scored a game high twenty four points and almost outscored the rest of the nuggets starters combined and more bad news for the nuggets teams trailing to zip and best of seven series have lost ninety three percent of those series in nba history. Well coming up. What we heard from tom brady yesterday. That i gotta tell you should be downright scary for the rest of the nfl. What could he do for an encore in tampa plus but dak prescott must do for the cowboys to become the beasts of the nfc east once again and wait till you hear how he put his ankle injury behind him. That's coming up on. Get up no matter what you want to protect. Nobody has more experience helping. Keep it safe than adt with adt you get the most burglar alarm events in the industry. Eighty has helped save more lives than any other home security provider the best home security system twenty twenty says. Us news the number one smart home security provider says strategy analytics. Twenty twenty twenty four seven peace of mind from the creators of the home security category over twenty thousand employees experienced. And helping keep you safe experience matters. That's why millions of people trust. Adt to protect what matters most and keep them safe get all the latest security upgrades from the largest name and home security visit. Adt dot com. Today adt stands for quality and timeless protection. Get up is brought to you by marvel studios loki. Don't miss new episodes. Every wednesday only on disney plus all powerful by the way after winning super bowl fifty five at the age of forty three. Tom brady underwent minor surgery on his left knee during the offseason. So we talked about it on thursday. How long it had been an issue and what it means for twenty twenty one take a listen was a injury i dealt with Really you know since last. You know. April may i knew i would have to do some at the end of the year and happy i did it and it was probably something that was needed is certainly needed to be done. And there's a great outcome. So i'm very happy about that Be able to do some different things. This that i was able to do last year. Wait can we just stop some different things. What does that even mean. Sumit's rush for hundred yards. What else can this man do. Chris canty what else he can do. I mean tom. Brady is proving people wrong at every single turn so when we started talking about his expectations going into twenty. Twenty one for me. They're the same as they've been the past two decades. I mean until proven otherwise. I'm going to assign a baseline of excellence to tom. Brady even coming off a knee surgery. Even going into his age forty four season because the guy is proven that he can elevate the up the talent that's around him and with the tampa bay buccaneers as an organization. They've done a great job of being able to surround him with a really solid supporting class including one of the best offensive lines in football. And you know. Bruce arians is going to manage the situation reports out in tampa already that they're gonna operate shotgun until tom brady works his way back to one hundred percent. Try to make things a little bit easier for him. And from an xs and os standpoint bill scheme up some things to try to protect. And so i just feel like this tampa bay buccaneers team with returning all twenty two starters and antonio brown. They'll be ready to pick up where they left off. Even if tom brady's not one hundred percent early on in the season this team will figure out exactly who they need to be in order to have success similar to what they did at the bye week last year after that you know they went undefeated. Has everything going for. It and tom brady talking about how he could do. Some different things this year. Lewis i gotta ask you kenny. Be even better this year than last year. Looks like we're having a little bit of trouble with louis sound but that's okay. We'll get that off from him in a second but gross i gotta ask you. You actually talked earlier this morning. How it's a little bit of a situation. You compare them to lebron james when we tell me about that. Feel like there's a little bit of a like a little bit of added drama this so you guys don't really realize how tough last year was all those great things i did. I mean look. I'm sure his left knee was hurting. You obviously got it worked on. He's going to be forty four. Something else is going to hurt this year right. I mean that's how i mean if people are watching haven't had their fortieth birthday yet. I promise you that's how it works. Right hurts and you don't even know you. Did anything. go to just decided to hurt that day. That's tom brady. Is i think the key thing to understand about this is you know brady doesn't have to be any better than it was last year. He has to be the constant in tampa right. He has to be the thing they can count on and the fact that he at this point in his career knows that much about how to manage his way through season when he's not one hundred percent is a vital part of that consistency that he offers them the fact that he did it last year. Means that whatever comes up this year he'll be able to manage that as an interesting point but lewis. I gotta think when you talk about repeating a super bowl champions. It's more difficult. There's people now know what you're all about. They're gonna be coming for you. What can he do better this season. Do you think then last season when he just really established as you say chris a baseline for excellence. There really is. There's never any cap or you know ceiling to efficiency in the nfl. I believe it may have been tom brady. And then there have been other quarterbacks. We've also said another place of office that i've never played the perfect game. I've never had the perfect season. So there's always ways that they can improve in terms of their efficiency particularly you know in situational type of football whether it be third down red zone minute. The kind of things that he grew up in new england having drummed into his head that you have to be perfect in these situations or at least strive for perfection. so there's always ways in which they can get better with the question you know. Interestingly with tom brady is really really is in uncharted territory. We don't know how he is going to feel five weeks six weeks seven. We do know that he is aken. Strength and rehabilitation and recuperation to whole new levels whole different type of level in terms of the modern day. Athlete and people were kind of fallen. You know in lockstep with him and trying to mimic what he's doing. And that makes this question all the more truly unanswerable as to when exactly as the wall gonna come for. Tom brady when his father time going to win. I don't know man. I just don't know i just want to like wanna hit him up and ask him a few secrets. That's all because father time has actually been kicking my button some instances. I can tell you that. I tell you what father times kicking my my twenty s. I don't know how he's doing it. But i you know here's a guy dak prescott who is definitely needed on the dallas cowboys coming back from a dislocated and fractured right. Ankle forcing the miss eleven games and twenty twenty after practice on wednesday dak revealed the exact moment that he knew. His ankle was fully healed us. Yeah good cinco de mayo had was a little active and at that time. Maybe there's some little dance moves fellay. I'm ready to go. So that was the time that i said in my head. The injuries gone. Show us will point to that. Go to my. Oh dance mile rehab right. Amazing how those margaritas improve. That's amazing unbelievable. But it all series this year and lewis. I'll start with you. What does dag need to be to get the cowboys. Not just black in the playoffs this season but for them to make a real run. Because i don't know a cowboys fan. Who says oh. It'd be great if we made the playoffs. Look he needs to be at his very best in quite honestly through the first five weeks. Last year he was at his best. He was on his way to a career year at that point in time and there was really nothing else that he can do. It's really not about him though as far as their overall team success. It's about the defensive side of the football man. That's where the improvement has to really be made make no mistake look decks go has to play a very high level because one. He's getting paid to play at a high level into. It's always look in the nfl if you want to win. And we're talking about down in dallas winning really means winning super bowls because that's what their history has been no matter how far back you'd go and you have to go back pretty far but that's what it's about winning super bowl you know he's gonna have to play well but they need the improvement on the other side of the football. They need to be able to get on third down. They need to be able to give back more cracks at it in terms of making sure that the time of possession battle is won by dallas. So it really is a total team type of thing that needs to take place here. Dan quinn and do defense coordinator is really the guy who probably is even brighter hotter. Spotlights that even dak prescott. Because you know that you know. Barring any unforeseen circumstances attack prescott is going to hold up his end of the bargain. He's an elite elite level player. And you expect him to mimic what he started off like last year in the first quarter of the season. The defense though we just don't know and we're gonna find out very quickly. Yeah i like what you're saying especially about the team. 'cause as you were talking. We put up a graphic that said they were two and three with him playing at that elite level. Chris canty two and three and he was paying an mvp level. So what is the winning formula for. This team is going to have to continue to play at an mvp level. That's my jerry. Jones doled out the contract. But i think also the offense is going to have to be the identity of this team. I will agree with louis that the defense has to dramatically improve but defense is going to be a work in progress. Season switching over from. Mike nolan to dan quinn off fronta even front. There's going to be a little bit of a learning curve in terms of those guys understanding the scheme and what they have to do in order to be successful so until defense can get to the point where they can be effective. That offense is going to have to carry that team that means that they're gonna have to dictate the complexion of the game bride virtual the scoreboard make offenses more one dimensional in that regard in going to dominate time of possession. It's a similar formula to what we saw from this team in two thousand sixteen when they won thirteen games in order to do those things that prescott is going to have to play at a high level headed third-highest qbr in two thousand sixteen. It's gonna take that type of season in two thousand twenty one for the to get back to the tournament. And what quarterback did we talk about an illegal played an mvp level and hold them to account for that. If they don't win. I mean other guys were expected to do it but this guy. It's like you have to do it in order to win weather issues. Might they have on offense though. Well look i think they have reason to hope that things will be even better for the offense remember. The offensive line was falling apart around him before he even got her last year. Tyron smith they're great left tackle. He played two games last year so he had surgery on his neck and he's had some procedures to clean up some other stuff bugging him for years so he's apparently gonna be okay maybe healthier than he's been in a long time ezekiel elliott is healthy. Didn't play well last year. I mean obviously if he plays like ezekiel elliott. That's benefit. i think the cowboys feel like the offense can be great and was great. Early last year minus the turnovers and if the defense can just be okay as opposed to horrible which was last year then. I think the offense should should be able to be what it needs to seventy for cowboys. Fans asking the defense to be just okay. After last year is a big ask. I mean there's nothing small so we'll see if they turn that around up. let's talk football shall we. What will it take to get. Aaron rodgers back in the a question. We've been asking off season one of his favorite targets in green basis. It's not about the gm so what is it about. And what jaanus has to do tonight against the nets to save the bucks season and trust me. It's a lot you're watching get up on. Espn do you own or rent your home sherry you do and i bet it can be hard work you know. It's easy bundling policies with geico. Geico makes it easy to bundle your homeowner's or renter's insurance along with your auto policy. It's a good thing too because you already have so much to do around your home. Go to geico dot com quote and see how much you could save. Its gyco easy visit. Geico dot com today. That's geico dot com. We're back with the biggest story of the nfl. Offseason the standoff between aaron rodgers and the packers earlier this week former packers receiver. James jones had some interesting comments on the situation. While appearing on the herd on. F s warne. I've talked to aaron. I'll talk to him all the time and he's told me that it's not about the it's not it's not about. It's not about the gm you know. So when i hear everybody on hearsay you know it's about getting the gm fire these things. It's not about that. His number one beef is is a private conversation on the phone. And i can't show talking about you. Know what i wanted to be. Here's the thing. This is what i wanted to play it. But i'm gonna get your thought on that but this is why i wanted to play that sound. I wanted to play that sound because this has gotten to the point. We heard aaron rodgers a couple of weeks ago saying i love my teammates. My coaches. I love all of that but the problem i think here is what is it about. If it's not about the i'm gonna take james jones at face value there. If it's not about the why is it so hard to come clean on this. I get wanting to be friendly to the fans and all that and be the good guy but but really. It's like if you care about the team and everybody else. Don't you think dan. There has to be some sort of clear identification. I don't know already did it. Because we don't know what aaron rodgers is talking to them about but doesn't there need to be some clear identification of what do you want. Oh yes i mean. If he hasn't given that to the packers then obviously they have no chance to resolve the issue He hasn't given it to me unlike james jones. I don't talk to him But also unlike james jones. I'm gonna tell you what i've been told Which is that it. Is you know. He has an issue with the gm and he has an issue with organization and the way that it operates And that he feels like you know. He hasn't been treated the way he ought to be treated given that he's a player of his caliber. So how that gets resolved. They've offered him a new contract. He hasn't liked that offer. They've they've flown out to talk to him face to face. That hasn't worked. So i mean if james jones has information i think i'd like to hear it. Yeah exactly you want to be a reporter. Do some reporting what you know right hand calling out james jones. Okay all right like it though. Chris let me ask you this. Let me take me inside the locker room. I'm in that locker room. I have a vested interest in this team being great. I get paid more. I win more. These are all the things. I want and it's not clear what my superstar wants. How am i feeling about that. Am i feeling like look. We could say all the words we want public like. Oh we love this guy where we got his back all that stuff but am. I really sitting there saying no. I need to know what this guy wants. Because i want him back because that affects me right. If you're a player in that locker room you don't feel great about what's happening between aaron rodgers and the packers. But i mean you're not at the point now where you want panic just because it's still relatively early in the off season. We just got to mini camp. They're still six or seven weeks before you got to report the training camp so there's still time for this whole thing to get worked out but to me when i hear the comments that air rogers made a few weeks ago on sportscenter. It sounded an awful lot like there was a respect issue or lack thereof in the communication breakdown. It starts in the front office. So i don't understand how you can point it. The general manager and say that's not the genesis of the issue with this rift between air rodgers and the packers. So i mean. I hear what he's saying in terms of it not being about money in that not being the the the genesis of this whole problem. But if you're an nfl player you know the way that organization show you. Respect is how they pay you thoughts some fresh cash into the situation. Wooden hurt the packers. Chances of being able to air to come back. Tell you money never hurts but louis i gotta put you in a tough situation but i know you're so good at this. I got to get your thoughts if you're in the front office dealing with this kind of situation and outwardly. It appears that aaron rodgers is feeling disrespected. And he wants something. But that's unclear. What do you do. how do you handle that. Well i think at this point ryan. They've already done. Probably i sure hope that they've already done everything that they could possibly do to try. And bridge that communication gap that supposedly exists between him in the upper levels of management with this football team and they have had those open and honest conversations about. Hey look these are ways with. Maybe we have fallen short. Not just with you. Maybe in ways that we have handled other star players or players that you felt a connection to or coaches. You felt a connection to that. Aren't here anymore or ways in which we do business. I would assume that they've already had those kind of tough conversations. Because quite honestly you board your franchise quarterback your future hall of fame quarterback respect to have that kind of conversation. That's just being a good people person. That's this understanding that it's the people that are what drives the business after that though at this point if i'm in the front office i'm not doing anything. I'm taking my time to go ahead and continue to try and evaluate jordan. Love to get him. Ready to play in. The air doesn't come back. And i'm really going ahead and saying hey look if i've done everything i can do to bridge this gap. I'm gonna go ahead. I'm going to engage with you. Then in this high stakes game of chicken to see who blinks first because quite honestly time is on our side. We need to develop our quarterback who traded up to get who we like. You are going to now start losing money. You're thirty seven years old. You're in the prime of your career. We want to see just how far you're willing to take this. We'll wait and see if you want to miss time in. Training campus are getting fine. We'll see if you want to miss game checks when september and see if you want to lose that money then we'll see whether or not we can take it all the way to the trade deadline because quite honestly the demand for you is going to remain high. We need to see what we got a quarterback. We've done everything we can do. I put the ball in his court. If i was in this position. Okay and you know what. If you're aaron. Rogers and his perspective he's got tens of millions of reasons to come back and talk about that a little bit later in the so but let's turn over to the nba and the box and the net and forty a challenge. Got to try to avoid going down three. Oh tonight against the nets. And that's going to be without james harden. The second straight game hasn't suffered a right hamstring injury. Just forty three seconds into the nets game one victory. but that's i've had no issue without him. Kevin durant kyrie irving combined for an average fifty four points a game. And then that's two wins including thirty nine point win in game two and if the bucks one eight tenths to get back into this. Wow they're going to really have to need a lot. more from. Yana stint gupo eighteen points in the game. Two loss on monday and then fame's harden ruled out the game three after suffering a hamstring injury in game. One kyrie irving doing all right. But i gotta tell you at this point william hill. They've got the bucks as a slight favorite minus one sixty to take the first game in this series against the nets about that he. Espn's vpi also give milwaukee fifty five percent chance to win tonight by the way you can catch this at espn on seven eastern. Let's bring in. Pj carlesimo and big perk perk. I'll start with you. What does he need to do for the bucks to win tonight. Straight on the turn this way go right now. Kevin durant is straight out out playing them. Okay and gallison's not playing with the type of action. He's not playing would the intensity we all know that he's gonna miss jump shots. We all know that he's got is not. That is not a good free. Throw free throw shooter but at the end of the day you gotta have some type of pride. Kevin durant is going right at your nick and you're not doing anything about it. Kevin durant has been the best basketball player in this series. And you're not taking it personal. So we're jaanus i look. I don't care if he misses thousand shots tonight for so some type of passion so so some type to nancy. Show some type of sense of urgency. That's what i want to see the honest tonight you know. He's talked about how he's trying to stay calm. But it's tough to stay calm in a situation like this now. Pj you said in your notes to us that jaanus was not the most important factor in game three. What is to you while their defense is the most important factor for me ryan. They're just getting smoked. I mean it's two games only but it's one hundred and twenty one average brooklyn ninety six milwaukee. These three point shots that the nets are getting are are to open to get him. There's penetration get health. And then there's a wide open shots from the outside everybody's making we expect joe harris From to make his blake. Griffin's making everybody to shoot him as making him. This ball movement is excellent. Here's the penetration k. D. perkins right on. It is the best player in the league. Right now not just in this series when he penetrates the help comes in that opens up their perimeter shooting. That's the difference right now. The bucks are an excellent three point shooting team. They usually defended three well. They're not. They only have fourteen threes in two games until their perimeter people make some shots. It's going to really be difficult for y- honest penetrate and do some damage inside. He's taken too many jump shots in my opinion That's not his strength. He needs to get to the rim and get to the free throw line even though he may not make him. He's got to get some files out of this. Other teams so settling for jump. Shots is not the answer. Three point defense is the answer. Okay and let's turn to the net side of this guy. Shall we so let me ask you what at this point is stopping the nets from getting to the finals katie's hill that's the only thing that could stop the knicks right. Now because like costa said look kevin durant is the best basketball player in the world right. Now and the way that he's playing basketball is expired to what we already know that he could put the ball in the basket. We already know that. He's the greatest school of all time in my eyes but his ability to facilitate for others his ability and willingness to play defense right now. He's locked on the side of things that right now you just watching them magician at work. This is what he do. He goes to work off. Festively gets in his bag. He brings a carry on luggage. That he's throwing up to the plane he's bringing. I love that so goats. I'll ask you the same thing. But i'll also tell you that i'm philadelphia guy and i wonder. Is there anything philadelphia otherwise or anywhere that can towns these nets from making it all the way to the final question. Health is the biggest thing i mean. Health is really have an impact on a lot of these series. So yeah health important. They need james harden and jeff. Greenback voice talking about james jeff. Green was really important for them This game tonight is enormous. Milwaukee wins this game. They're back in the series. I nobody believes that's true. But i think it is the bucks. Find a way to win tonight. Then we may have a legit series if it's philadelphia. They end up playing. Yeah that's gonna present some problems. Philadelphia's an excellent defense and they have the dominant big man again. If he's healthy. Joel embiid so you know. We're two games into the second round. I'm not ready to you. Know make them the eastern champs right now the way. They're playing if the bucks don't respond. They're going to get through this series. I expect the bucks to respond. And i expect whoever they play next round for it to be a much more competitive series and if they don't respond tonight it is tough to see how they can make it. Pass these nets because they are a juggernaut at this point guys. Thank you so much appreciate it. And the nba play-off roll on with two conference semifinal games ten night on espn in the app. It's the nets in the box. Seven thirty eastern then. Game two between the clippers and jazz. The countdown cruise starts our coverage at seven eastern. Well coming up saquon coming back but why are analysts. Says it may not matter for the giants. What new york must get to take over the nfc east but first a little sneaky. Hembo time for mr dan grazziano take a look there who is the career leader. Dan and scrimmage yards per game among active players. Look at him thinking we'll give them more time. We'll be back warning walking outside lines. The emmy and peabody award. Winning show tackles the most important issues in sports time. What college athletics is going to look like taking you beyond the headlines. Every support is important. But you're not as important as the menstrual with perspective from the best analysts in the business of the first time the dallas cowboys at the black quarterback isn't one hundred percent the face of the franchise outside the lines. Every saturday at nine am eastern on espn back with a little sneaky. Hembo time for dan. Grazziano dan who is the career leader in scrimmage yards per game among active players. I think i have a good guest ryan. This is based on ezekiel elliott led the league in rushing yards in year one and year. Three and he led him in rushing yards per game in year two and he was suspended. I m going. Guess ezekiel elliott and you would be correct. Zeke elliott it is. You have trounced today. He says i would throw a football at you. If i were there you would know that way. Look at us. Twenty five to twenty one over. Hembo look at you. You're making it happen. My friend and by the way on that list number two was saquon and look at him. He generated nearly thirty five hundred twenty three touchdowns in those two seasons over the first two seasons played only two games and twenty twenty one door dude with a c. l. in his right knee on thursday sake. One talked about his road to recovery today on. Come back you the best. I can't not just for a short end before it. Top so No no You come to work soon day. Okay so saying all the right things. Dan chris back with us but can t let me ask you this. This is the question that was kinda rolling around in my mind in this morning. Answer this for me as saquon as saquon goes so go the giants. How how does that play for. you know. i think that's accurate because saquon barkley is a really special talent. I mean that's why they've got him and decided to take him with the second overall. Pick back in two thousand eighteen in a quarterback draft knowing that he was going to have to move off. He li- manning sooner rather than later. But i mean saquon. Barkley is probably the most important acquisition for the giants. Also the giants offense this offseason. And that's saying a lot. Seeing as how dave gettleman went out and got kenny. Golladay gave him a bag of money. Draft cadaverous tony in the first round. And he signed call rudolph but i mean saquon. Barkley is a very dynamic player. He's a threat to score a home. Run from anywhere on the field. Both in the run game in the passing game and people have to keep in mind. That big blue's offense was adam gates led offense away from being the worst offense in all the football so they need that explosive element and it's a short list of players that are more explosive than saquon. Barkley in the entire nfl. So saquon barkley. I think that he's he's important to the giants success this year. He's important to their quarterback daniel jones as he goes. I think we'll see this giants offense cope. How do the giants feel internally about their offense better than they have in past couple of years. I think he'll saquon super important. They're going to be careful with him and his rehab. Not going to rush back for training camp but i talked to somebody there the other day who said when daniel jones looked around that huddle this year. He's seeing more options than he used to write. Like you see in kenny golladay. You're seeing you know it hasn't been in the kyle. Rudolph will be there Canarias tony the first round pick john. Ross the former first round picks in the bengals that they sign. I mean they feel like they have a lot of talent there that you can go to. I think they would agree with chris. That saquon barkley the most important and most explosive offensive player. They have but. I think there are ways that they can go that. Don't make it entirely about him as it might have been say. You're you look at the money. They've doled out to offensive weapons. This should be an offense that ends up being top ten and if not they could face some problems there in the nfc east. So let's turn now to baseball guys. We'll come back more to this than a bit. Wanna go to this the yankees and the twins this is a big one garrett. Cole josh donaldson bring a little bit. Aaron judge right here top. I crosses it for his fifteen th homer of the season yankees up one. Nothing now i was telling you about coal donaldson. They faced off in this one donaldson calling out for using foreign substances in cold. Did that on the knuckle curve and a little staredown donaldson walks back to the dugout next at bat for donaldson. Check out the telestrator. Right there. Hundred miles an hour that pitchy just fouled on count now to and two cole struck him out. Coal six innings nine ks two earned runs top of the yankees up five one. Jean carlos stanton walking up to the plate already at a homer and that makes it to eleven homers in the on the season the yankees hold on to win nine to six. Now gary cole. What did he have some numbers. He clocked in at record numbers against the twins. He pitched a career high ninety eight point two mile an hour. Average with his fastball. Four of his six facet pitches of the season came on the mound on wednesday and he spoke after the game. Guaranteed you use anything differently or any different products than you normally would have. Because of what's going on tonight or from previous starts has created. Yes specificity question. Because i just don't think this is the forums to discuss those kinds of those games appropriate time for players to discuss those things and keep internet forum. Okay so now people are going to ask. What is that appropriate time. I want to bring in. Jeff passan this jeff. I kind of want to set this up for people. And i wonder four for those who don't follow the situation as closely. How much attention should fans be paying to this issue of foreign substances in baseball. I think they should be paying a lot of attention. Because the product ryan that you see out on the field right now directly correlates to the use of foreign substances by pitchers there's a reason that hitters across the league are heading to thirty seven right now and it's in part because pitchers have gotten better because the technology's there for them to literally go into a lab and design a pitch that is intended to strike guys out but there's also an additional element and that is foreign substances that's making fastballs spin faster. Which is keeping them higher in the zone Which is making breaking ball spin more which is making them break harder like this is not something that is just a non story. That the media's blowing up this is what people across baseball have been talking about all year and how bad it's gotten and if the people inside of the game ryan talking about it then we should be talking about it here and garrett cole should be talking about it as well yeah. It's a good point. I know some pitchers are making the point of hey we've been altering the ball scuffing it up doctoring and a little bit for years in part to not have it fly all over the place but this is a little bit different so now major league baseball wants to take it on. They've they intend to specifically enforce rules that they've seemingly been ignoring for decades. How will that actually work on the field. What are they considering to. Actually do to enforce those rules going to be awfully interesting to see the rollout of this and i was talking about the general manager last night who was saying essentially. Mlb can't screw this up. Because the scrutiny is going to be so heavy on the league to get this right when they're rolling it out mid season at the beginning of the year. Ryen mlb said essentially. This year is just going to be survey testing kind like back in two thousand three with steroids. We're going to look at things. We're gonna see how bad the problem is. Well people at the league right now. Say the problems worse than they recognized. And that's why they're doing this in the middle of the season. So they're going to have. I'm pires going out and checking players between innings and it's not just gonna be the pitchers ryan they're going to be looking at infielders and catchers also to see if they have any foreign substances on their person. I'm just trying to imagine how that's actually going to work in the context of a game. It's it's going to be really really awkward and weird. Especially if you're a fan at the ballpark and especially if a guy is say hiding things like inside his waistband. How does that. How do you even do that. I don't even know okay. Well we'll we'll see how this plays out right. Jeff passan thank you so much for the time appreciate it. 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PMS 2.0 429 - Feel Good Friday, Anthony Schlegel, Darius Butler, AJ Hawk

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PMS 2.0 429 - Feel Good Friday, Anthony Schlegel, Darius Butler, AJ Hawk

"What's up everybody. It is friday june fourth. And you are listening to the pat mcafee show two point zero pats where smackdown right. Now we still got a great show from today dairies. Butler joins us live from the fan. Duel beach us down in tampa. Aj hawk obviously and new strength and conditioning coach for the jacksonville jaguars. Anthony schlegel joins the program as well for a great conversation. We appreciate you guys all for listening without further ado. Let's get into it big ass show today because you know it's it's the biggest show of the year k. One game at a time one show to time mindset right here live in tampa bay kgo bolts go by the way do have a house in tampa bay so me and bret michaels big big lightning. I've heard stom- cost has a place right down the road. Yeah oh yeah. They lost bruins one though time fashion last night there was a lot of sports. Okay a lot of sports happenings. Mostly lebron james losing in a round. That wasn't the finals for the first time since two thousand ten when making the play. Offs is lebron. james loses in the first round. Six games into this thing doesn't even force a game seven at home knowing anything davis because the growing is a tough thing to come back from whenever you talk about athletics in the issue now for the mba is. What are they going to do. Lebron james after the game dim even have a sense of of anchor. Didn't seem to be much angst almost like he kind of understood the situation and susie saw anthony davis was hurt and then by the way afterwards. Says i'm playing for tune squad to pound playing fucking aliens bro. I think you know in that movie. Space jam the bron- is debuting his full-time movie acting chops. We've seen an sprite commercials. We see them in nike commercials. We've seen them in the barber shopping. A host of a show. This is the first time. I think we're seeing him in a full movie. Especially when it's being remade. After michael jordan him going you know and doing this acting thing is impressive to me. He has the ability to act has the ability to buy into a character. Noah seen no role i think personally he should have at least acted upset last night. I think i think personally. There should have been just a little. Bit of spin in lebron james and i think you should act it a little bit upset afterwards but it was almost like the writing was on the wall. This series devon booker's. Obviously chris paul is good but none of it matters. 'cause the brooklyn nets are gonna win in people are going to be mad at me saying that because going into the season i said well there's gonna be a cup teams are going can be. The lakers are going to be clippers or did at that time. We didn't even know the nets. Now that all the teams and everybody like myself from the outside is predicted. They're going to win. They're gonna win. they're all out now. Do we care more about good team basketball in the nba is. That's something we need to care about. More is the notches a superstar driven league for success. It's actually a good team basketball. We'll find out what the brooklyn national interests beat. Fuck out everybody. We'll follow along with that. Can't wait to see space jam. Lebron acted a little bit upset. Anthony davis was. She was healthy. It doesn't seem like even trying to be like though which is awesome. And i like that but the season's over for us and not get out there and ball. It is very great to have somebody in studio yet again in the house every time we're down here in florida. Florida resident joins at boston. Connor at schmidt myself zito foxy all the boys back in indianapolis who are plugged in via facetime. I think i was gonna say satellite. But i'm sure there's satellite sure selling vase time ladies and gentlemen nine year. Nfl vet hosts amanda man pod. Everything db derrius j butler doing dares. It's great to have you with us man. Let me tell you why. There's nothing really talk about. But we haven't heard your thoughts on everything that there was to talk about this week. So now we get a chance to kind of rehash everything that has gone about this week and maybe some new updates for instance there. Roger story was dead. You know the only thing being talked about aaron rodgers stories was miles teller. Potential getting into an altercation job details. Hey we made that mistake before it. We got we made and we up in an e you know. I think they called some guy. They called me in their daily mail. They called me a professional wrestler in the norwegian tabloids. I'll get pictures in norway. I was being referred to as agitators africa. What the word was it was in their language. And maybe it meant something different. But i've got buried for that. We don't know okay. Tmz had molly police call them. I assume they called the police or the hospital and they had their story okay. That was evidently wrong. I was never told. I was then told by miles. Who told me in a shot. Whatever not really. Come out of that story rob demovsky gay green bay packer insider for espn. I think him an air and actually have pretty good relationship he comes out and interview in chicago okay he was doing an interview in chicago illinois in. He says he doesn't see at this. Point how aaron comes back to the packer. Seems like he's too. Like maybe doug and i'll gain in his ways or something like that. That's big news. Okay so now. Espn reporter who has a pretty good relationship with our. Does he know more than us. I'd assume at this point. I think we made it burned out relationship with miles tellers stories. Such as by dolph. I'm sorry i wish you didn't get jumped. That's bullshit. I don't like it but you could have handled it differently. But not near here on their his gone. It sounds like darius. Are you learning about this for the first time. Because you may didn't know that old robert demovsky existed or did you know rob demovsky existed in. What are your thoughts on this. Do you agree with his thought in really this is something. We're just learning about today so it's actually kind of something new talk about not familiar with rob rob desk at work. You're familiar. i mean. I've seen robert mosque's working people say that's on bitch. He's okay. you might be accumulate. Some shit a conclusion. That era won't be there last time i was here. I think it was like a thirty percent chance. I gave it he retires. I see playing ball. But i still see you coming back to the packers knew. Yeah so the interesting thing about him. Coming back to the packers is how do you get past set awkward stage. You know. there's gonna be awkward russell wilson and we're gonna have to have the same type of thing happened with an offensive line. I feel like if you have. What's that bulls. did mayor of. Everybody hated did you. Trump's jerry cross hall of fame or you're not getting six ships without him. That's why everybody says. Jerry saying people forget jerry krauskopf painted an interesting light and that whole thing there some people that that zito sees show's brought to six. Yeah he took away two more. And also i mean the way scottie. Pippen was portrayed nothing great either. He was training day people. Were calling the bronze scottie pippen. And yeah house steve. I'll turn my mic. How happy are the jordan fans. How you guys are loving every moment of this so happy. They're trying to throw away like A wizard stat. Where jordan two times. It was like the guy deutsche check for nine eleven victims those couples of days whilst we gotta do. Hey the lebron haters. And i don't want to get back to the brian here Aaron stuff is big deal. But it's not it's salsa three days. Aj mike come on here in fifty minutes and say dr text. Actually things are looking good. We have no idea. That's the lebron haters. Though last night. I mean the six minute when he had to go poop they were starting to boss. They were starting to come then last night. Just they were down. Twenty four early. Dan opposed by thirteen. Was a little bit of a running fight of ron foot on gas a little bit in the third quarter. It seemed like he was starting to do his thing or whatever but they never. The sons didn't blink continued and up by thirteen. The lebron haters got excited about an zito is one of the biggest ones. he's from chicago. So it feels obligated jordan. Whatever even though. I don't even hold. Are you exactly. I'll manage which one to people in the post game press conference was like. Yeah right. I could see why people potentially hate leblond but ganjam first time since two thousand ten where he the getting bounce out of. The playoffs is in something other than the final surge absolutely. I don't think he'll be appreciated. And he's done and mj j haters to it. Just you know just different with social media and mean most guys honestly most people talk about you know. Mj and brian did it. Probably never seen jordan missa jumper and probably never saw a game like all you compare one guy's career and his broken down every day guys have made a whole life off of talking about the bronze so it is crazy. But i'm brian guy. Mj guys will but Yeah you're literally wearing like chicago. Bulls outfit right. You're not a lebron guy. I'm gonna say. I'm libra i. I didn't like him walking off the court. Like that. not only gonna head poop. I feel i feel some kind last night. He didn't have to poop. And i didn't like i obviously was not up for that okay. You know there's no chance. I was gonna be up for that and i think everybody knew that that was going into that game in the nba. Knew that if this thing doesn't get tight quick and it's not a boat race. There's probably a lot of people aren't going to the end of this. The whole non shaking hands thing. I don't know the nba. well enough. I guess i should hockey. For instance after a series. Like this big deal mike in hockey. It's a mask these dudes potentially just fought each other and then it's like spur sorts for the good of the game and then in the last dance right it was is area and that was a big thing is a big thing in the nba to do the handshake thing. And why didn't that happen. Why why did the broncos an mba. they don't shake hands after any other game until until the series is over like after game one game to game four. Whatever they walk off after his over like you know whoever won you know apm up and thank you know knowing him. Chris paul's relationship. Banana boat booker. Just you know. Drop forty-seven almost just that some well. He gave him as i turn entire behind. The scenes thing that was does i do wonder like. Hey lebron you are the game. You know what i mean. So that is kind of like a. Maybe he doesn't want to happen anymore. Maybe say let's. I'm this is something that we don't want to happen more. Maybe lebron wants to stop tradition. That's what people will say. That lebron cove. It's scary thing to. He's not vaccinate. Means no john in florida down in florida. You're you're gotta do now in indiana. You know the only the only stadium that has not been granted to say that they have full capacity time so local governing authority says now the mayor in india says hey. Listen on my dad. All right i need to see more numbers. Okay and maybe he's right thing but in indiana you got to walk into a place and you get a look like literally like quick still a lot of mass up there. Yeah you'd like Indiannapolis slowly slung in indianapolis. It is that we're you know it's like it's slowly light kind of rolling out. It feels like but down here. You don't even do. I got one your mask on down here now. Completely even at home. Thank but the mandates getting lifted in indy. Maybe the let's say if the you know you can deem something post june one. Oh the football seasons in the fall that'd be post june six okay whenever the mandate is being lifted. So that little foresight but here. He's got a lot on his plate. He's got more numbers everybody else. He's got different virus. Everybody else in indianapolis he probably getting another round in data coming soon and once that comes through jim just province to open the roof. Well hold on. Let's not do that if it's a lot better things closed and a window is shut. Let's go and have a seventy degrees. No wind police beautiful. I love it. Man i'm just thinking about. Mba's losing a of money got the lakers out now. A lot of out who will sell my heat. yes. I'll beach out. We got we got utah. Left clippers denver down three two so that they loosen us. And it's gonna be a lot of small small market all right. Let's continue the nba conversation. And i know the fact that we get dairies here. Who is a big time. Nba fan complain mba bar. I've seen them. I've seen play. Wild highlights incredible once again to his point. We don't see any other place now shrew. I don't believe that there's any true. I don't i don't believe that there's any potential in a lack of effort out there. I don't think that that's not something. I don't think there's any of those. Okay i maybe maybe Maybe a miscast over his possessions off defense these day elaborate in there. Yeah by the way. We don't need to see that. You know what i mean. We'll see ya only. The banger survived but big time basketball fan. So nobody's really thinking like. Hey i want to hear what pat mcphee has to say about the nba. But i'll tell you what everything i've been saying about the basics like it's going to be coming true trae young going to get the next zainal williamson's gonna try to get to the next okay. Damian lillard dame doll the best rapper in athletes. I'm going to say he's gone to just a year ago he was. It was like he ain't never going anywhere. This is this guy came in. Everybody's like cool that's awesome this guy's loyal that's very cool. That's very cool. That's very cool but me as somebody who like doesn't watch be on a day today and maybe doesn't follow the trailblazers as much. I would maybe if they got to the big like aka. They did the whole thing and they're like no he's not going to do it. He wants to build that team. Put it on his back or whatever. It's like okay but the way the nba's going he needs to get out of their money. I love his loyalty. It's great. I hope he if he doesn't awesome. They're going to try to get him out of there and like He's quote nip nipsy here. How long should i stay dedicated. Maybe thinking about question mark and then obviously how long to opportunity meat preparation. Which is the luck. The old luck quote is luck when preparation meets opportunity. Or whatever so. I don't know what he's implying here. Is damian lillard going to retire instead. Play somewhere else darius. How long should i stay dedicated or is that dedicated the portland. What do you think. I'm thinking portland. Because i mean it's heartbreaking double nickel game. He had it was a it was ridiculous and his team gave him. They were like one for seventeen one for nineteen or something down over time so it's tough and he's been loyal. You need spoken about it. Plenty of times but in today's nba just talked about early with the nest. Like you know. He can be loyal for another eight years. You sniff chip guys lincoln. And nobody's going to portland to to play with. Yeah you should see the woods. They have the would that they have up there. Your view the fan base per to they listen pacific northwest there. You can get out there. The house you could buy in portland is soon all on one of those nba. Max contracts or you can have probably a part of an entire community up aaron portland. Sure you know what. I mean with the beautiful lumber in the back matins. Is there mountains and portland. Soon go rain to is going to be grand off. That being said the owners would have to decide to do that to pay everybody to come in there. I don't know if that's going to happen. That hasn't happened yet. But maybe maybe it is portland and not the decision being over tournament. Fans being too wild doesn't portland have all psychedelics. And everything legalized your mac. Player mass crack at st acid. I dope oranges order now and i don't think he can do that. I just well. I under saying we're not lawyers now okay. We're a paralegal paralegals. We have not tom pella. Sarah through the memo of what that law actually consists of. But i think if you're caught with someone you it's not like jail i. I'm not sure if you just walk into. Cvs donner's say of meth us. Get carter what cough syrup. Oh yeah because when you're out in the country's immoral methods and i don't know if big city people know this or whatever if there is a massive math problem in they will start like iden- you for things that are potential recipe ingredients for the meth. It's almost like a shot by the way by the cashier. That is working at walmart telling you you gonna make mattheus fucking chill out dude all right. I respect everything. You're apart again. I appreciate what you're doing. You're accusing me of making meth raid. I'd like to just fucking give my throat back sleep. How do we do this whole thing at beautiful looking for those that are wondering that listening on unserious yes. Miami looks like z. I. oma no income tax. I would assume portland. Saying i would assume they have very high taxes. I would just guess people run around. You know cooking methods nor blow. Yeah i probably should have a pretty. I don't know how you know. I think i think the overall tax ideals over there are much higher. I think than in the state of florida and sure and i do believe that the reason why i'm feeling that if so facto type thing is because of everything we just said about the Bill water october stadium. Does humor more not used to be weighed. Connie dwayne wade and shack. Rush down mails good. Time was two thousand and eight two thousand nine Came in were three. He had a. We had a nice room. When i first chip in six then the heels got formed and we had another run celtics championship in between there to just with it. They got a big show coach. Now he's now. Got two coaches so. I got burned out so bad of coaching in boston. He fucking quit. He's twenty five years old. He said i'm out of coaching. He's supposed to be the next great coach. Who's that dude downtown indianapolis. He's taking a knee with all the legs around this guy next john. Warden indiana seventy million. Something like coach diversity. He's supposed to be the guy he's supposed to be the guy. He burn out so much from being in boston. He said i can't fucking do it anymore. I get me out of this coach and get me. Get the whistle out of my hand. Okay give me a goddamn corporate meeting room now. I can't do this anymore. You guys suck the life of the future. Greatest coach of all. We did not the bubble. Did i mean he's already topped fifty and wins all time. I'm pretty sure breast even had a of a career. You can have a better career as a front office member did. He said he was born to do this outta be surprised if daimler coming over to boston. Play with jason tatum. Jason tatum and dame would be a hell that. Would you like tatum as player like tatum needs another piece around love tatum jaylen brown taco talking. Yeah give him the rock. He laughed interface. I darius what's that all about. I wanna know you about how you really feel about. Brad stevens not been able to get over the hump and fifteen guys are moving in front office so now he asked to manage the whole fucking built much sense. But you know you bring in jason kidd jason around win skiers. That's not a big fan of what has happened there in boston. When do you see that work. Elway i think he kind of fired himself. And then move. larry bird larry. Bird was the gm. Then the president of operations i think. And then he's the gm again and then he was gone and he was back. I think the pace. Hey larry anytime you want come around do whatever you want to come on back now. He did it what the celtics do right now. But he was a coach before he moved into yaman jordan. Beat him he had a larry larry. He's kinda earned. It allows legend. I got a chance to chat with them because he was. I think he was president or gm with the pacers. I was doing something with local news. Or whatever and i get a chance to chat with him and it was just casual just casual conversation with him. We are being recorded. He knew we are being recorded but he didn't want to stand and do things so we're just sitting while they're doing practice or whatever just sitting in like one of the arena seats. He was just like super chill. And i go shooting more now like whatever i was like. How could you even fucking talk every every art. I left so so hard. It was unlike like or and as more stories. Come out about him. It just like the three point contest. Things whatever wins in warm ups shit was like he told the team. Like i'm saving my right here for the lakers. Five or thirty six left and br. I got gotta fight. You gotta get addicted one to win three straight out of the su. I'm pretty straight listening to. What was it was magic and bird. Right they did that on. Hbo magic talking about he said we. There's a white one. Here's what he's doing everything i'm doing. That's like that is state by the way. That's how that's how real locker room would still act would always at in how the whole thing it's like. Hey hey hey the white scott one. He's still don't give a fuck about anything. He had a in the the pacers bankers life in before that it was the something field has some seca now can saco then bankers life and then he had a seat that was in the corner by where they go into the locker room but it was up a little bit could see everything and then it felt like there was never anybody that sat in front of or behind him and then he just sitting there and he would just get up randomly. And i'm like. I wonder where he goes is gonna smoke two cigarettes others watch film fire. Somebody like make a call maybe trade somebody in the middle of the game. You'd like yelling. Where's he going he's got. He's got smokes. You guys awesome east. What a legend man especially when they're playing the heat during like the politics i remember big moments in the everyone going nuts and they cut the larry cold not even the final. I don't care Let's get to a break before we get to a break. Sorry we have to celebrate We legitimately have to celebrate. Gump is back by the hammer down. Boys live four. pm eastern standard eastern daylight. Time i'm sorry. I gotta get that right. There is a difference Standard is fallen. Winter daylight is spring and summer. So we're i think. I mean i've been told both i've been corrected on both sides by two different people that told me they're smart so i i think i am right in this particular one four. Pm eastern daylight time. Youtube dot com forward slash hammered down. That's h. a. m. m. e. r. d. a. h. n. Couple degenerates in our office. Do a show daily. They give out picks they've been winning and winning and winning and winning and then guess what a slump slapped them right in there fucking mouth case to the best. Yeah just happens everybody. That's what they were doing with this show. I thought they were lying to my face like every day. I somehow they do four one three. He was three and one or whatever. I'm like you gotta be lying dialect. They were doing that for real. Dumpy was in the pits. he was miserable. Okay he was. I was not upbeat. He was not the same old lively hilarious fun loving because he was taking it on. Shinn's on twitter. Does he was lucid last night. And fucking dummies bat. How do you feel. That's pretty good. You're out there saying you were dead undertaker gift how you doing. Keep it moving. We always bounce back. We needed at four and night. Roll that into the weekend and stay. Tales of your demise. Were greatly exaggerated my friend. Tova cowboy tone digs. How you feeling are you went instill or are you just laughing at gump where you win and alongside of what's going on. Has the slump shifted to the italian kid from pittsburgh a good night to last night slump. The slump was like what a day or two. Yeah not really a slump over here. We're still on top of the world on the mlb betting I won't dallas okay so by the way you are the standard you know so like when you have a bad day or two compared to what you guys had been doing. You know that. That can't become the new normal. What everybody's saying. Hey there's a lot of people given out losing picks all the fucking time right. Okay i mean. I may or may not be one of those people in certain situations just because you know my motions get involved a little bit too much happens. You guys are calculated. You take emotions out of this thing and you were becoming a bankroll for people tone. Do you look in the mirror and say you don't want not a bad guy i am. Is that what you're saying these days town. I do that a lot. Actually glad you brought that up. The standard is the standard. It's mike tomlin says all the time you know when he does in has a win a bowl or potentially championship. Everyone yells at him for that. We have one losing losing nights. Everyone does the same for us. A pretty good guy to a break. I think you're pretty good guy to it's funny. You said the r d stories. Our demise are greatly exaggerated. Because i said the same exact thing on the show yesterday because you guys are back. Yeah feels like till tonight back. We're back people go through many changes as we get older narrow for men one of the less fortunate changes is that testosterone production begins to naturally decrease in the body. Did you know this. Aj i am aware for. Most bennett begins around the age. Of thirty antipasto strom production declines by roughly one percent career. God so if you live to one hundred thirty you ain't got shit left now minus thirty well if it starts around thirty. This is one of those questions on test where you know begins around. Thirty in the testosterone production declines by roughly one percent per year. So does it start at zero or does it start at thirty. That's the thing. This is. Dan word brown. Wait a minute Can i ask a follow up and it was that was good at those task is always viewed it as me versus the fucking teacher. That's right. I don't know what's going on but this lever. Eshoo fuck you. that's all that's why friends at roman have a new supplement designed to support testosterone production. I did not know this. They formulated their own supplements with transparent and scientifically backed ingredients. You hear the romans. Testosterone supplement is for anyone who wants to support their own body's natural function. They formulated their own. Blend with transparent and scientifically backed ingredients. 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Yeah hey cap in hood for that good if you could use should and would listen to them in chicago. Damascus talking to an enemy territory okay. Justin feels actually said that one of his friends got drafted the wrong team the packers so i get a massive beefing thing rob. Demovsky says he didn't come back to doug in. We didn't know if you potentially texted aaron and got information since this report has come out Do you think he's dug in. Aj hawk the man who is in the kentucky derby picture with his hand the and displayed over his wife shoulder. I think bob demovsky first off. He does great work. I think he's he knows he's got his What do you call. He's got his ear to ear the streets or ear to the train track. Whatever you wanna call it says around or the ground ear to the ground. I think he's i think don't you think you put down there. Sorry about that. aj go ahead. He's probably he's probably saying this because like we haven't heard anything. We heard anything from either side from erin from the front office. Really mean we've heard what flores said how he wants them back in the worst way all this but there's just hasn't been any development. I think everyone probably feels like the longer we go our. We're going to work this thing out the only developments we're going to get. Though in dairy said this earlier he said wednesday. Aj hawkins fucking tele something secure as it has a dairy set. That's dairy said. And i think that's what part bob demovsky probably thinking to match schneiderman. You're talking about a world lily. A there's a lot of people that are just waiting on the good work for me Baby miles teller. Come out here must will give a little heads. How do we know anything about that. We don't know anything about this situation. Now i mean there's there's been no developments and i i haven't smoked with and i kind of like you in this situation. I just. I'm trying to stay away. Because i don't smart. There's no reason for me to sit there. and he. He's not a source to me as rap sheet wanted to say okay so this is very smart. I think like Like you not asking him questions because you don't wanna know the answers in. Don't wanna be the one. I'm not going to be the mouthpiece for you. We're i want to do this. I don't want to get involved this. There's a lot on. I like and respect that a lot and what you're also saying there though in this is what i say about my friends that i don't wanna go s him. Maybe there is information getting out to other people from you know what what i mean just because aj isn't hearing it or somebody. I'm close to has news happening. I'm not hearing it. That's because aj it sounds like you're choosing not to ask or hear anything is that is that fair to say in baby bob old babo bobber demovsky does have intel from a very high situation or do you think this is him reading the situation. I mean i don't know maybe it's some of both. Maybe i'm sure it's him just reading the situation and being around the facility all the time but you know that's i mean there's not like you think aaron has like a clear cut plan where he's going to lay out for somebody to care and how did it. How do we make this better. And he has like a five step process of what they have to do okay so. Aj hawk says. Aaron does not have a five step plan on what they could do. Okay we now wait for at six. Six or seven k our many enter by the way remember his our many what you know what i mean however many you wanna guess there's potentially here but all right so we're just going to act like we do nothing bob. I have a lot of respect for demovsky love. And i love rob demovsky wrong. I assume rob's going to see this. There was some more news that came out this morning. Jay and you're not really affected by this. I don't think they're taking away from the god damn nfl. Have you heard this. This is my fault. Potentially for being the like the cheerleader. For all and this whole situation just exactly how you are the anti chew it for the bengals exposing the fact that they don't have an indoor facility. You are that say to give great pub toward on say how amazing it is and you continue to mention a show after. Show so yeah. I figured it was time. They're gonna take some action. They're digging because you have really brought it to light. I guess for people that didn't know about darius. You said that i heard players are going to fight. You know current player or a former player by the part of it though. You're actually retired stooges as all back in my day. Oh no swollen is now. There's actually a picture of okay. There are three men being pictured alongside of this thing. And i'm not. I don't think they're necessarily pumped about that either. I think they're supposed to just be answering questions former teammate of mine andy. Studebaker aims duty. Bandy friend of mine. I wonder if studi potentially he spearheaded missile. Thing is what they think. But don't you believe that they if they are against they're saying hey you're you will thank me later in life. That's probably what they're so embarrassed not talked about this in two he. I don't know two thousand twelve was the year you think you leave so two thousand twelve whenever they came out and they said like hey toward all we might have to stop this thing and who knows what does your liver and kidney and i think every other and they said they didn't. They say they'll still offer the you to take the toward l. pill which i guess doesn't work nearly as much that'll affect your kidding. But then they backed off of it completely. I mean they backed off completely at some point and dairy. Said he'd in dairy said something. That was very interesting to dairy. Said that i was in the era of when the pain killers being used pretty lackadaisical. I did see a couple of situations where i was like. Wow feels like you're getting access to something that you shouldn't. I guess a couple of times but it was that widespread instead of toward over. There was a lot of animal. May not the doctors promoting. But we're guys trying to find other shit to try to mask no pain or anything like that guys will definitely try to. But that's the thing i like. I said before in green bay there so conservative with everything they would never. You didn't have the doctor walking down the league. Hey throwing pill vials in movies or hear about another team so i definitely knew of it. I got in the league in six talking to buddies on other teams. It was definitely like that at certain places. Derozan talking i after my surgeries you take it. And that's the only reason why i was able to watch that. Show with your favorite actor in it. I was kinda laid up. Or whatever buddy. Not boy your boy spacey. Yeah he got a new role. Did you him on his new role yearbook your airway. Your guy i never i never. I don't pound the destined and say he's my favorite actor. You tax them listen. I don't wear pink anymore. But based on when frank underwood did. The double tap was his pinky ring with his high school. Graduation military's academy ring. Shit was about to fucking balk on that. The latinos happening in real life too. I didn't know that the time. But anyways i couldn't poop okay i don. I don't know how. I don't know how people get past that whole thing but also i guess toward all. I feel like works much differently than the painkillers. And by the way not a doctor believe it or not. phd what's that you have phd. I have different philosophies of things. Phd's philosophy degrees or whatever the hell that is. But i think the way the operates differently. The the painkiller i think it shuts off something in your brain so it doesn't feel the pain. I i think that is what it does. That tore it all. That thing felt like it hit my whole body. Felt like my whole. So i think there's a difference between the is it toward an anti inflammatory anti inflammatory and the pill and i think the anti inflammatory right. That seems to be much better for you than maybe. The painkiller book is aren't going to be. They're not worried. A guys are gonna be all hopped up on vicodin and percocet games now because they can't get toured automatically and does his younger grew crew. Even know you said you came in. You heard stories when we came in. We heard like the younger generation. There she might. I don't know maybe they care about it but maybe they're more conscious care about your body more books. I mean we were just trying to get no get care about your body right now. those you. you're playing in league. I care about my body in the league. Hey right you. Aj torn packed torn calf pop. Groin broken. Every single finger needed like four knee surgeries break. I've never broken. Anything de ligament ligament damage torn pecci said dot away headed black and blue down his entire arms so it was like lesion. Yeah and what happened. Yeah under the skin. Yeah that's what. I woke up. And i was like this may be something best. You miss one game entire time. What did you do. You two stared it down your the lady given birth with no no darryl. How're you how were you never had it. I never had it. So i never knew what it felt like to have toured. Also that's just you just learn. That's just what you do like what else. What else am i going to do. I enjoy playing. I want to be out there. Why would i not. Here's the official out of ian rappaport. Who was also a pro football talk article in rapport and nfl. Pa memo wants to players On the use of torture doll via the joint pain management committee in the memo due to the risk of toward l. Causing major bleeding real tall should not be used prior to during or after nfl games or practices as a means of reducing anticipated paint anti-inflammatory. That's ill as means of reducing anticipated. Pain people really. Are you taking us to reduce anticipated pain. Now just make them but anyways down here players that are part of the joint pain management committee and studebaker. That first one right on todd give them a call. Get email to students deserve the rapporteur. What's against duty. This is not my report okay. This office line help with your office. Oh i didn't even see on since what today's morning being a witch a similar situation actually happened to. Aj yesterday sent something to bach. Tari and he posted the picture and aj's addresses right now. I retweeted he deleted it immediately. Someone was like. Hey i know it's blacked out. We can see as address back. I didn't even know that. Hey man billy tubes coming good luck come on down buddy. We are prepared. Come on down that ready. All you got to be ready for anything man. Dude got to be right. let's get. Let's not get distracted here though because we kinda did their rappaport kind of the toward. Hey don't you think that you're gonna make how'd you. How'd you play what you do what it's like to have towards me two in the do you ate your wheaties roger vitamins. Like what. the fuck sums superhuman. How did you. How did you take you. Take my toward always four advil tylenol before gates. Okay so there we go so how we figured better than that made me feel just so warm over my whole body just amazing after that. No i'm joking didn't feel anything. I drank drank alka. Seltzer during alka seltzer. Before games to that's it an anti-aircraft mechanism really cause remember. They they used to show with Was that way back in the day bananas. Coconut juice georges. I never had never had an issue. Cramping but brian angle. Flee a great trainer in green bay. Nate weird they both Turned me onto it. And i still everyone's just just for old time's sake i'll drink some alka-seltzer kicks. It reminds me i on the helmet. Run your head into a wall or two advil bottle. God you guys talked about. We do you think that would be wouldn't be the same affect as toward alba. Would that be reasonable. Replacement to all pre-game. There's nothing pre-game replacement grew. I wouldn't smoke before game. It is a by the way me. I don't know why wouldn't do it. I would practice in try. Things vary very much. That's why i have the house. Literally the reason why i bought the house in africa's a massive field the back and i could do that thing but if i did it on a game i fucked up. I always thought like i don't want people to. I don't want to have to sleep with like that. I don't want people to think that we've talked about this before. There's some guys who can't play without him for some great great players. Great i mean every everybody's different everybody's different but Like i said the cd natural thing that doesn't get you high. That could help. But home chapman. They're gonna give it. I don't think it's going anywhere. I just think they're gonna make you make sure. The waiver is foolproof. Like something happens in the future. We're out of two thousand twelve. They were trying to scare people out of it instead. It potentially exposed to like okay. Let's go do that. And i don't know if there's going to be a similar situation but the bleeding thing is a little bit alarming. And then i think as you read deeper things about concussions. I think though. So like i think i don't know i don't know there's so much shit going on man with lawsuits. A potential lawsuits future lawsuits current lawsuits. Anytime you get into the billion dollar business you know there's going to be dumb shit shady shit in future shit. You're going to have to deal with. That's all this is about. And that's why like for instance in. I didn't get a chance to get your your take on this. And i respect to how to your that race norman thing. Did you hear about this fucking thing did you. How did that happen. Like that. Have been by my entire. I let off the show with the yesterday. Where i was like. I think a lotta people are learning a lot about the world that we live in about. How potential things could happen. I was very lucky to be in the locker room. I got a chance to go to some neighborhoods and communities that i would have never been to in the past see things learn things and i think as the world kind of opens that race norman thing though. That is so dumb and discussing how does this. That's because in every single contract negotiation that these savages get into. They're just trying to win by any means necessary. And that's why to however they're just trying to win and fuck over the other personnel ever. No matter how despicable and discussing it is and i think that is something that has to change in the future. Obviously that whole entire thing has to change in the future but also the way business is done has to be done differently. But that's why all these that's fucking vows fargo wild return even just read the headlines Cnn two thousand twenty. One of the bigger issue is you know that was. That wasn't just them now. Like medically like world like world. That was kind of accepted for a while like okayed like cognitive levels or different this race in that race which is absolutely crazy but The lawyer thinks name is christopher seeger. He's representing the nfl p who representative who was hired by the pa rep. I think i think his law. Foreign rate dan like fifty million legal. Yeah i mean you get the this year would have never saw today. If it wasn't for the players wives who actually was going through my hold on this bullshit. How come up with that guy. Coming out and saying I was representing the players. In this thing and i was wrong. I know that a large. By the way of the league's people. I was just completely spitting in their face. And it's like what fuck you you immediately. If you're a player now you have to wonder like okay. Who's representing in everything in everything if this is able to happen in one of the biggest settlements in the history of the nfl in the nfl pa by the way. This was one of the biggest. If it's able to happen then not that long ago. What other shifts happening currently with somebody just like. That's what that's the type of like. I'm a big like oh that's happening. What else is happening. You know and it's hard not to do that. Those dealing with dementia like some real shit so you making it harder form that money or help or whatever s is a dirty a dirty game now we know that. Let's get back to the topic of dope shall we though. What's please do that. Because i don't know if there will ever be. I mean maybe there'd be a stranded is developed by some genius. Who has the green thumb. Yeah they can get in there and just turn any piece of soil in something profitable you know. Maybe somebody will get into the marijuana where it'll be able to be a replacement for four dollars. There'll be something that'll be able to have. That type of effect is an anti inflammatory in how it works for guys and everything but i think like i think marijuana treatment should be something that rose into the nfl soon. Mike you know what. I mean. I do it. Yeah they're doing like ptsd using ecstasy like in medical trials to treat ptsd for soldiers and everyone. But i'm saying like their entire. Like like i think the nfl could now obviously the nfl. Probably going to be behind on some things and then they'll just catch very quickly because that's what the nfl does it kind of if you're like the nfl. Let's other people kind of do their thing and then they they do it so as marijuana becomes more normal especially as more research is done as the gubernatorial debate in indiana like the nfl actually investing in their own scientists potentially to create things that players can either get or or something like that to go along their arthritis. That a lot of guys have to deal again or something like that like. I think that'd be pretty smart idea but that what's at twenty years away thirty years away. Probably what until then toward all is going to be a part of the conversation all the all. The big pharma pills are always going to be a part of the conversation. Because as bodies change in science evolves there's always going to have to be remedies though for pain which is never going away. That's kind of how everything's going to happen. It said that You can't do it. Before games or practices anymore was there like a mandate on. How much guys can take her with guys. Who would who would get toward all every single day. I don i. I knew i every day every day for practice. I knew nobody got every day. I night before and morning of some people. Maybe michael jackson's doctor will give it to you every day. But no nfl. W what was his name. Conrad conrad murray. Hey he's given surgery start sleeping i. I don't think i ever come on surgery. Oh refresh connie is mom to really be line now. That was down in a different country. I feel like kind is maybe did. Actually i think he may be connected. Somehow somehow connected. I know how crazy but you. Michael jackson didn't sleep for how many years then because that's not sleeping. You're just getting knocked out right so that that's crazy anyways. Doctors have lost power. Let's hope they take care of people. And i would like to see more studies about win. I'm going to die because door. i'll use that. I definitely did once a week. Seventeen weeks you want to know though. Do you really want to know now. That's like a lamb. A couple of friends in the league who i watch a concussion. Movie and You watch. I dunno. Smart. 'cause i thought about you i thought about you. I'll watch marty. I view it the same way. I think i actually view same. Thanks for the though. Thanks for thinking of me when you saw whole movie about head trump now on wasn't i mean they brought it up not me. It was just saying you're probably far enough removed from it though. Aren't you what from like take i mean. I feel like what don't know who knows what you know. Who knows what was bills honestly at eight straight years of it. Yeah yeah it's a lot wants to once a week for now. Only seven and a half is it. Does it causes internal bleeding or does it cause everything. I wonder if it's like a blood thinner to wondrous in major blue. And that's the worst thing you know when you get injured like you don't want a bunch of blood or swelling going to like like that says by the way his arm right. I mean that's what an anti inflammatory is is moving fluid and blood mostly away from something so is it a blood thinner. Potentially i have no idea. We don't know any of this. All i know is not me all right. It's not me who who got this thing rolling. Then if it wasn't you saw the pictures. I dunno makers not pumped be the guy that's pictures this phone number. I called him caught him immediately. Upon reading it whereas this from michael same article this the nfl pa released and this is the reason why due to the risk of toward all causing major bleeding specific recommendations include toward should not be used prior to during or after nfl games or practices as a means of reducing anticipated. Pain all should be given in its oral preparation under typical circumstances as it is recognized that the oral preparation has a faster onset of action. Then the im. Preparation has a duration action that is equivalent to the im and ib forms and has a plasma concentration time curve that is early identical to the im an iv preparations. I am an injection of toward l. Should not be used except following an acute game related injury where visceral or central nervous system bleeding expected and where other oral or intra nasal pain. Medicine medications are inadequate or not be tolerated. So that sounds like any any studebaker wrote that. Sounds like studi joking. That was obviously what four hundred lawyers and five doctors put you to take the pill though they want you take the oral pissed. I read what they said on paper though. It doesn't mean that's reality though. I think we've all tried the eight guys. Say it doesn't work well. That's the middle of their paragraph. There as i was reading. I thought to myself. Oh this is much fucking bullshit here. I'd say it takes way takes longer. I tried to appeal before. That's what i did before too. Shy just takes kill got pale would be harder on your insights to it has to go through your liver twice a pill rather than an injection. Yeah but the injection. What that goes right to the whole body right. That's the sure. Yeah i just like whenever. I mean talk and steroids like if you did injectables rather than orioles injectables are better for you. Because they only go through your bloodstream. Once rather than twice the pills okay so that is at bubba. gump pinot. Who is not a doctor are they. Those are his voice. Go over this was especially after the. I would like everybody know. That's listening to watching that. Who a canadian guy. Okay who might have done. his own. Research does not have an md. We just roy. Keane's do gums point. That was what they were warning against. That believe wasn't it because it does Accelerate internal bleeding and central nervous system issues. So they were saying. Don't inject it gump because it will do exactly what you talked about no. So what's the. I am intramuscular. Yeah injection. yeah. That's the ibiza. There's a difference there. Yeah intravenous straighten. When do you get a drip of turtle. Now i think you get. I don't know if i've never. I assume they do that. They're right to do it. I just got right a lot. But i i used to get an. Iv regain to for Sometime they would just diver for a sometimes. I see the fucking worse. Yes like because you know you got nurses who do that. Daily these seventy year old team doctors who do once a week hard to get into so that yeah. That was man hated us. Yeah i remember watching. Because i was never a big like a strap me up to a rocket. Here pal. I need hydrated. Even though i was big time sweater lose some weight. Preseason okay but like watching. That whole thing happened. I always get like a little but those those respected doctors. I kinda just play like us. Almost like whack a mole with these needles. Trying to get them in there. I was i was like almost getting sick. Or whatever and then that conversation happened like these doctors are even saying like we do this for you. Guys dan. Can we get somebody to maybe do a proper stabbing here. I mean that is what you do. That's iv though that's that's intra vascular not intramuscular. They have to wait like the nfl to do the whole wheat transition. If they were to think about that for it to be legalized federally. I would have to happen. And 'cause i thought in the united states have goodell. Yeah you know when. Yeah when denver legalized was like everybody's gonna go broncos. We're learn a lot about the players that are trying to get to the broncos because my first thought was okay it's mile high and dope is legal. I love colts but wag. Potentially maybe have the same rules here. In india as there is in denver you know and then united states get dealt. Then write a memo to everybody and they said Here in our particular country We don't give a fuck about what the local laws are. Don't be smoking any fucking smoke. That's basically what they said. And i think even said until it's federally legalized or something like that. They wanna win. It's going to be a long time. It's a long time. But i like the mega getting into game. Maybe more maybe some. Nfl owners will get into game. I assume jerry. Jones robert kraft getting the game somehow. They'll they'll see money off already game. I would assume jerry jones has at least four or five houses. Should we south there somewhere. So sorry to interrupt. Let you know that if you're not gambling with fan bill. You're wrong tape. Indoor sports book is available in seven states. I believe at this point. Six seven eight. You get if you're not gambling with fan does sportsbook though you're completely wrong. If not interstate yet we are coming to your state. We have better odds. We have a much easier to use app. the convenience is next level. 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Let's get back to the show great discussions today about things happening in the sports world. We've covered meteorology. We've covered big pharma. We've covered dope. We've covered football. We've covered nba. We'll talk golf at some point because people are getting escorted out by the police from the memorial golf tournament in ohio for screaming at bryson d. Shambo let's brooks in the ever. Evolving brooks kept bryson d shambo golf beef that we are all here for. I don't know how it ends. I know brooks scott lot more wins and bryson has at the moment but bryson is golf. Third ball wacker guy i think. Aj hawkins joined us back in. We just call him and got connected to him. Hey jay how's it going. Is it a male or female because my wife over hopes she didn't get rowdy was full service Groups of people getting escorted out from what is being reported in your backyard by. Aren't you right next door to that. Yeah i mean not yeah drove by. Drop my kids off today. My wife's out there for a few hours today so hopefully all right. Well she doing she working in event she just hanging out watching golf she onto. You know it's like it's a thing it's a big party you know we have different. People that companies sponsor different things. So she's just hanging out watching some gulf. I guess you get ten at this tournament. You guys go tent to tent. That's around the greens and that's kind of how it all goes i. I did the open now. The open now is that the oak want could have been a us open and we did not do it right. I mean we've made a lot of money to get passes to walk that thing around. There's people that were intense that had air conditioning. I gave the at a much better time than i had guy. I don't know if i did it right. Is that what you're doing. Is that what you will do. After this by the way for the rest of the week and you'll be over there No i don't think. I don't know if i'm gonna make it overnight. Maybe take some kids over On sunday usually today. but. Obviously i've been doing this. I could've gone to eleven thirty you should. You should skip this. I mean we appreciate you. Qa we appreciate you. You should have skipped this for sure. No oh no. I never miss this. Especially when when i booked slaves coming on here zito. He texted me and said callback or something. So i don't know what's going. Okay that's good booking by the way i've flooding producer in the back no to call him back because we call from office computer studio computer. It is under a different number different name. I assume a lot of these people that we've never talked to before it shows up. I'm fucking answering this facetime out here due to send the guy that's about the join us for the first time ever darius. Have you ever heard of this before. Anthony schlegel no. I'm not could allied. That's why he's dairies he you've seen him. Though the picture we used for the guest announcement today he was strength and conditioning coach. I think it. Ohio state or whatever somebody charged the field he rock-bottom sky like grabs guy who's wearing classic sperry's it looks like he rock bottoms kid. Yes he is now. I don't know official title. But i know he's he's running the bodies down there for the jacksonville jaguars team. He's the director of head straight conditioning. thing conditioning. Coach lays gentlemen joining us now. Not only a buckeye hero. He's on a cereal box. Not only guy. At rock-bottom some random kid charging field who deserved it. One thousand percent now head strength and conditioning coach for one of the thirty two nfl teams. There's only thirty two of these jobs on planet earth for the jacksonville. Jaguars donner do vall. Connie ladies and gentlemen. Aj hawks great friend. Anthony schlegel schlink's we doing good. I'll try to find my camera on this thing. I don't even know show. What are we doing what we have. Today we work out to see where sleeveless and what are. We got going on housing as going. I want to let you know. Sh legs to talk about everything. Ohio state with you. Obviously you're icon there in the rock bottom of the players. Awesome your friendship with asia. We'll talk about all that but we just talked about as somebody who's down there in jacksonville and i forget who told us they said. Urban was reaching out to them. When you get into building like we signed you when we get into this one. The boycott was talking and then now there's the numbers are coming out of the amount of people that are down there. Trevor timothy bowes down. What's mentality what's the mindset. We just saw the cheese. The chiefs are in training camp mode. Right now feels like how are the jaguars and i assume. That's a big part of your job. Right now i salt. It's home late. Wanted to be a string coach as you said one of thirty two. But they're just the the amount of guys that we had. I think he averaged sixty five guys during oca phase one. It was amazing. They're coming end at working hard and now days where we have all ninety and that's just a testament to what coach. Meyer are himself on culture sports performance team and the gallons going out there on the crowd. Because that's the only reason i made it. More beautiful layer both eat for players. It's all about the ops. It's our job to increase their value and extend their career. Guess what going. James and when you present that to all and then you get and you get high dealership factor. They're all so it's just one of the part of a slave coach bourbon. The picture that they posted was you blasting the guy that charged the whole talk about you. Coach them back in ohio state. Now you're with your whip them. They're the head guy in jacksonville. Have you noticed like is urban able to coach these guys the same way he was able to coach in college. Thing about coach meyer. He's great with people and he's hard. He is a hard coach but he cares about. These guys heard guys come and talk to me like. I've never had a coach like that. Does that mean what do they mean. There was that mean. What do you mean like. He seems genuinely interested because the thing that came only interested. He gives her shoot about understands that. There's a small window you got. We all know that you have a small only played. Two years were frequently. Aj he claimed for ten. How you quit for twenty years. It's like you have a small window to go make as much money as you possibly can play the game you love and guess what our job is to help you in the fundamentals win games and also rejuvenate your body. Take care of you so you can extend your career slaves. Oh that'd be god's love by the way that he's like whatever you talk about what you think. Coach should be. It's like that seems like what it should be. It's not always like that. Some people get too invested in either the xs and os the business side. They're like hey just show up. There's there's always something. I think when urban was talking about the free agency because he was signing people he was like. I'm signing people these. I haven't even met him yet. I haven't even shook their hand yet. Like it feels like he does have that like collectively connection with his players. It's nice to hear that that is translating into the nfl now. He absolutely loves the. That's the best part of our job. There's over a because you know rain room with a bunch of weights. Yeah i love that. I want to get both of you sometimes and trade my face off. It's a hundred times better not oil. It yeah yeah. I think there are some. Ota's that aren't you know with a lot of people. Their strength coaches losing their minds around the nfl. I'd assume let's talk about urban meyer college to nfl. And you can sign a free agency. You bring in trevor lawrence. Obviously the is going to need a reboot but the big thing. Is you know in college. You can recruit and you can get like for instance states discount might be the greatest. Yeah yeah it's beautiful. He might be the greatest player that ever played football in the history of anything but anyways. That's like nick. Sabin urban meyer daboh. There's guys that are known. They can recruit and their players are better than everybody in the nfl. The difference between talent is very very small even between the greatest. Ima guys that don't make it. What are you telling these guys to generate the best them possible. I assume strength coach. A lot of time is spent with the strength coach a lot of time in the weight room. It's a different relationship than it is with the coaches. It's different relationship than with the front office. What are you telling some of the young guys who don't know the league because it feels like you might have a young roster but also the guys like. Hey it's not that big of a difference in skill here as opposed to college. Are you a motivational speaker in their slaves. What are we doing. what are we saying. You gotta make individual is so what we did. Guys we had forty is here before we even started. Oj's i mean. It's one of the things that jacksonville. I mean it's a great place to live. I just moved down here from comes allow back mazzy coaster at the job developer. Down here on the seventeenth. We had guys to come in. Will you do is you make it. Individualized for them right. What are the areas of your game that you want to improve upon our is the acceleration is. You're hip and quad flexibility. Sir you need to get stronger. Lower body body more explosive. Whatever you come up with that individual plan for that outlet and then they get to see the results of that. That's the biggest difference between what we do here. What i think you can do in the college level. Because there's so many geyser now you can get into the weeds of what that guy needs. Plus you out rookies q eight ten year vets. They all need something different. I'm just not gonna put guys back and say everybody knows straight bar packed squats right. You see what they need to extend your career and have a great season today this year. And then you go do that. Would you invest that type of care in them. They're all and so. I'll give you a quick snippet. We want to work on accelerations for why receivership some five yards. We filled every single acceleration. They did for them and then cut it and put it in their own private bucky. Because guys don't want to watch other guys. They want to watch themselves game. That's a lot more time energy and effort to do but guess what they love it so he can see bat and they can use that to coach themselves as to what i need to get better saw eight so i'm just wondering if you feel some added pressure now so i know tim tebow's signed with the team. We've seen the pictures. This dude is absolutely gesture you are. You worried that he's bigger. Let's say he comes in lakes in all of a sudden four weeks into the program. He looks like he's shrunk a little bit and lost the muscle. Are you worried that that's going to be on you. Wow hey wait. I thought he's not because he eats all the time he takes care of his body. I will say this. He'd made me so touches so he rolled in here sleet was. I like worse. Sleeveless could afford it. I want to get paid. I've been living in you. Know high on midwest. Yeah exactly she come to florida. I don't want to have a farm sale out broad broadscale right next tan. Yeah farmer redneck. We know the deal. Come on so. Would i go back and see my wife. Obviously scared of walks in. He walks in the building the first week out my view them satellites might want. Tim is checked. We got we got a bunch of dues so guess what. Also burgess mind ripe anymore. Because you can't you can't be in here. Trading in jeans combat normally. Our hearts are out of the window because ninety degrees down here. But as gotta get after because you know call upon. I have to respond. That's on fridays. Guys committed in wanted us work. Who work out today. all right. let's go. And i had tyler xiali doing mayoral shoulders. He's office. he absolutely beat the crap out of me. And i was you come back this week. I was more fun. Back and forth dairies. Butler played nine. Years in the league has a question for you. I was hitting was nice to meet you. I played a play for two great great strength. Conditioning coaches jerry. Martin a yukon and Might wash up there in. New england wasn't any our coaches that you looked up to you like the inspired you to beat up Worst he's he's touched so many different lives. he genuinely care. Spiders people barbara. Paul recently passed was when i had work with the jets for me. You know making mirada was coming from. Ohio state. And i grew brian. Dobson my dad. Brian was the gym metropolitan that i worked at growing up. He owned he randy training but he was all of them. Sheridan's won't they in communist always about the attitude intensity of which you train but pushing their athletes in that relationship with you is this why i became assurance conditioning coach. Not a position coach. Because i wanted to be around all of them. I think you'd have a greater impact as strength coaches wide chosen profession. And like you said it's a very small profession. And i know so many of the guys that are in the league that i still have conversations without being able to share information back and forth. Now that i'm in it. I'm in jacksonville and i got guys in my vision that i know guys like errands former former. He's still at the packers right. I mean you know. It's a very small community that you have each other's back that you can talk about trade you can talk about guys you could talk about hang-ups see when you go to camp. Or hey we're deal with coded. I mean you wanna talk about logistics and operations. And what are you guys doing to you know. Still serve your athletes in the best possible manner. Having to deal with kovin protocols. I mean we could only train twenty guys in the building or only twenty guys in the building during was it tree. Ot as they became. I could only have fifteen guys weight room talking. I now now. I came to my weight room with a curtain. Have one side and fifteen fifteen outside. Forty five guys in town. hey slakes. you're doing a great job with chris cooper. We've we beat it. Though by the way especially down here in florida you take esl leaves off. Feels like we beat that we beat it. You can't say that because you'll get yelled app. Whatever but i can't. I'm sports stooge. It has to feel good. And i assume talking to other strength and conditioning coaches the you can get the gist. The maybe there's some jealousy in some places. Sounds like the khan family is going build urban. Whatever the fuck you wants right now. I mean it. Sounds like they're building an entire new city in this is obviously it's good business for jacksonville. Jaguars to get people in their hotel. And everything like that but also the sports performance everything. they're building. This is a golden opportunity for with an owner. That seems to be all-in you'll get a chance to display your. I mean this. I would assume the mood around the jacksonville. Jaguars and you aren't there. Beforehand is much different now than it was just a year ago or two years ago. It feels like they're kind of going all in all. I'll say charges a winning right. How do you. How do you win in the national football league. You take care your players you know if and only if i had healthy guys every single sunday i haven't greater opportunity to win. Football games then are missing five starters defense. That's just facts. So if i can rejuvenate them and give them everything they possibly need from shrinkage strength conditioning nutrition rejuvenation and i like rejuvenation more than recovery because where he recovered to our a juvenile to mass capacity. Exactly exactly so you have an athletic training all those things come together along with facility right then. You talked about the four. The four seasons the met center performance center there to everything needs to be one place for the athlete. You know that's about as coaches vision. That i share one hundred one hundred percent. Is that every resource. You need to extend your career and be successful on the field. Should be free to you and in one location. And that's what they're doing and we'd have an older that is willing to spend that type of capital. I saw president the other day before they lost it. April i appreciate. You appreciate what you're doing for our players it's real. What about the so. They all wrestling angle. We know urban anders laptop over chris. Jericho blasted strongly strong stolen. Footballs were you there. Did you get to work out with jericho like what happened. Know why. I didn't get that memo show. Maybe ever read my resume on to. I got wrestling drop wrestling. I have a wrestling background pretty animated. I'm sure i could fall script and go rogue no script dot. they're okay you definitely does something you know what the more that you can do right. Hey here's this laptop yes mash. That is awesome because w.'s. Right here's the us like right outside these doors so to have that kind of collaborations really fun. Our guys get kicked out of the boys at the toxic table. Here have plenty of questions in my last one here. Is tim tebow everything. He thought he was going to be. Like every workout. Every practice is it just because outside when he got signed he was. Hey i mean it was a hated decision. We you know. he's jacksonville. Legend is tim. Tebow him in urban. Meyer's relationship runs deep. Obviously in who. If tim tibo is running looking the way he is. Maybe this guy could basketball players figured out. I played tight end. Maybe tim tebow can do who knows how this whole thing. Pans out in that whole thing. What is it been like with tim. Tebow coming into that building eighteen and also trevor. How is trevor been dealing with maybe the tibo factor. You think that is that is dealt with anything at all. I'll say for shorter zero. He just comes in and works and grind you work with brian. Schottenheimer were the best coaches in the nfl with quarterbacks So he he's fine. We're gonna tim. Weaver succumb in our fantastic. You go into a tight end room. We got james with strong. C. kriss main Vanilla and tyler davis great room. Bunch of hardworking guys yet timber the mix. he's fantastic. He takes care of himself and he goes up their tracks his art. It doesn't matter what your name is or who you are like. You gotta go out there and add value to the team whenever we get to camp the pats on when you really played football you can't if you can't you can't but i'll tell you what though from everything is done here. Guys generally like and respect it and he just goes out there and does his job. And that's all you can expect our stand why people get so out those type of things you know if you can make you can make it and i'll tell you this to my mind to everybody. I don't care who you are. Free agent first round draft pick. Does it matter. Now we're gonna. We're gonna do everything we possibly can maximize you. That's what's it by the way. That's my strength. Coaches are loved by everybody. And i love it you do just fit the mode perfectly. Also an ex player which is fantastic. Go ahead connor pops. Legs sticking with tibo. Story was service in that. When he was fourteen years old he did a three hundred sixty curls of fifty five pounds. Can you clarify that story. Or story of ways vice. Look now yeah. He was getting we say thirteen years old. Fourteen bothered impressive. Try to replicate that tear. My subsidies seen one hundred percent bullshit. No way to get behind. It didn't want to leave any doubt that have got a big yard. This railing stores coach. Slakes going back to you and aj's athletic primes at ohio state or in the league. If you guys were to go ahead up one on one or you put. Aj's ass into the dirt. How's that how's that. Yes he saw. Aj's way more than i mean he's way more than me so you get say athleticism there because it's it's like here in the i don't know where my cancer is where you see all right. But he's a free. Bobby was outlet in a freak. Like i'm not you know. I just was a guy that wanted to knock you off. A sledgehammer head head-on his age. As i would look at look at his job. We like for real we still when we get together. We punch jacksonville. Jaguars head of strength and conditioning gets punched in the face every single time. He sees his old college roommates. They love his jaw on. You are absolute specimen. Never wanna guests. This guy's going to be strengthened legs. We appreciate your man. What do you what do you guys have you have long weekend was monday through thursday. What's scheduled to thursday. We come back and we go monday. Tuesday wednesday reach you practice when we got minicamp follow weeks. So you don't get on a plane. And fly owned cleo stanley j rejuvenate. Fly back for our guys that's mo. I'd be shot. Give you the plane small player sauerbrun arbor not omari southwest where you wanna be anyways. That's we're slaves. You're by the way you know. Kind of rounding up everybody. Let's go on his plane and motivating the plane by the way. Hey let's get back on the ground here. Through that entire thing i would be. I'd be a terrible house. If i didn't ask trevor lawrence. How why is he's supposed to be the guy since he's like ten years old basically seems to be just like one of the coolest customers of all time. He gave some quotes. And i think a q. Article or something like that where he said you know if i lost football wouldn't kill me and people are taken out of the question. It's like this guy. He's the guy has been guy seems like he's been a professional almost his entire life. Is that kind of what it's like with him around. And how do you think he's kind of hand is first months here as being an nfl quarterback He's done fantastic. I mean his routine is a pro proliant routine. Just come right out of college. He comes in the weight room. He handles his business. He gets owners rejuvenation. Doing this film say with brian everything that he does. He's already becoming a leader on the team. Just we by his actions without even sitting on the field for one game. it's just his presence rages. That's what great leaders great athletes do right there. Their game changers not only in the game but with their teammates. And so you know everything that been able to own thousand been able to be around so far. He's exceeded expectations. He's already gaining weight. He loves training those everything football. How much how much what are you trying to get into game slaves. What wages relative right. There's always a pop. Hey man epic sleep big trade. I would say wait is relatives when you look at the. Nfl is is when you feel. I'll give you guys a primary. How many nfl playing special teams. Hey schlaize you can tell your status entire bag. Orioles played tiger woods called. You know what if you want to make a roster thirty five dental plates space for days all right. That's good just what you know. Hey i i have a bad knee. I gotta dan. Guess what you'll need to to sixty. Maybe it's two fifty number right so it's all relative to the guy being to where he hit your performance mass capacity. That's really the number but you know as you guys finally again so to be able to handle the hits in a second game season bow. Yeah you have to put more weight than you had in college. But what can you still be able to do. What makes them so special. I was like andrew. Andrew had to kinda had a fine balance. There was a couple of times where andrew came back and he looked. I mean it was unbelievable. My galleons jackson was he bigger. You yoyo after more than you think. Andrew lill people were saying he was potentially but then there was some times where he was a little bit smaller and i wonder how the body reacted i mean. That's a tough game Good luck out there papa. Schlaize we appreciate you so much. You're the best dude me on a good luck out there and make sure everybody Dominates this year down there duval. It seems like you guys are building something very special in. That is a very real thing. I don't think i would have been said about jacksonville a. Lot in the past. I mean there was a year where blake yeah. He goes in defense was unbelievable. And then that whole thing got torn down. It was just like it really has a special field from outside. I assume you guys feel the same way inside. It's a cool thing to be a part of slakes. Absolutely and i'm halloween party. The roller gaming. Jags you gotta anthony all right. That's the show once again. We appreciate the hell out of all you guys for listening. We couldn't do any of this without you. Hashtag end of pod squad keeps sending in your pictures of where you're listening to the podcast. We'll continue to give money out to you guys. Throughout the course of the summer. We appreciate the hell out of you. Thank you for listening. Have a great weekend. We'll see on monday cheers. What's up. Everybody is friday june fourth. Then you are listening to the pat mcafee show two point. Oh pats on his way smackdown right now. We still got a great show today. Darius butler joins us live from the fan duel. Beach us down in tampa. Aj hawk obviously and new strength and conditioning coach for the jacksonville jaguars. Anthony schlegel joins the program as well for a great conversation. We appreciate you guys all for listening without further ado. Let's get into it all right. That's the show once again. We appreciate the hell out of all you guys for listening. We couldn't do any of this without you. Hashtag end of pod squad keeps sending in your pictures of where you're listening to the podcast. We'll continue to give money out to you guys. Throughout the course of a summer. We appreciate the hell out of. Thank you for listening. Have a great weekend. We'll see on monday cheers. Do ooh burn off Do ooh banding.

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REShow: Malcolm Jenkins - Hour 2 (06-10-21)

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Saint safety malcolm jenkins through football hall of fame. In dumpty isaac bruce plus from peacock's brother from another michael holly and now you're rich is our number two of the rich eisen show is on the air Hall of famer isaac. Bruce is gonna join us. And i can't wait for that Malcolm jenkins the saints about to join us. We just talked to rob demovsky of espn. He's the nfl nation reporter. That's covers the packers. He was the one who is live. Tweeting out Jordan loves Last two days at a mandatory minicamp. And we're we're all hanging our hats on whether as he said he. He was a unmitigated disaster and week. day one. and then dato. He's a hall of famer Diana rossini of espn is at tennessee. Titans camp right now. Did you see what she tweeted out about forty minutes. yeah. I saw that she was there. Can you hear it. Just took more pictures and videos of julio jones on the practice field for the first time of the titans than any other moment in my personal life weddings birthdays family parties. On each of my life. yes football on june. But you know There's something to talk about. And then some of these things actually do manifest themselves in wins and losses this season for instance jordan love. Who says he's one hundred per going to be a hundred percent ready of course he's going to say that good of course you should believe that to Should he start week one Should aaron rodgers be out Well that's a decision that's being made right now. That could actually manifest win. Loss and Somebody who no doubt will be keen to know who's going to be starting in that game for green bay packers because his saints will be hosting those packers week number one. I always love my conversations with this man because there's always something more important than football going on in his life to talk about. And that is malcolm jenkins of the new orleans saints back here on the richeisenshow hato malcolm rich doing good man. How you doing fine just hanging my hat on every rep that i can get my hands on right now. That's what we're doing right now in the world. You're probably twenty right now. I know they are. So what is going on in in your world with the saints. Walk me through. What this week's been like what's what's going on with you. It's still still a pretty unique off season obviously last year. We didn't have anything. Come in this. You're you know was a lot different than what i've been to where you know we. We kinda came in got to work out. Some meetings A lot of it. Was you know player driven so we. We just did some seven hundred seven for the first time. I'm really that was organized and put on by the players so everything was kind of you know. Located is going through the the you know installs limited basics Bush go get some quality working. Nobody's getting hurt. Which is the main Those been been great. No doubt what has it been like without breeze in the mix for the first time. If you're to ten years now with the saints malcolm yeah. I think you know. I think everybody's you know looking to see kind of how the leader is kind of emerge outta especially you know at the quarterback position since jameson. Tastes him really kind of stepping into their own personalities. Now kind of being behind ru And obviously you know myself camps tomorrow. Davis guys who have been leaders on his team You know kind of molding. Somebody other younger guys. But honestly i think. I think it's been you know. Excitement guys have been back into building. Combat. ary all of the similar protocols being loosened different into what last year. Well we didn't even get to hang out. You know as as teammate. So i think i was just been more focused on you know kind of kind of building. Camaraderie figuring out who's going to be on team And came back to work. And what has the quarterback situation been like from your perspective. What you're seeing in terms of leading in competing and things of that nature would take some hill and and james dot com. I think i think you know you guys really respect each other. Who expect the processing and wanna do is best for a team. Obviously last year you know take some filled in and and had some success. You know taking us. But james has also been accomplished in this league So you know it was one of those things. They're working together but we also know us a competition. And i think it's gonna make our team better Both of them. I think are natural leaders that have the ear the locker and so right. Now it's all you know. It's all about the team. But i'm sure as as we get back to training camp and and things heat up That competition well what do you think of. What's going on with aaron rodgers in green bay. I know you sometimes spend some time In an analyst chair every very once in a blue moon but I'd love to know your perspective from a veterans position. Certainly since the saints do have the packers week one. There's a ton of time between now and then obviously but i wonder what you guys think from afar watching this play out with a quarterback. Certainly that you have defended against quite a bit In the twenty first century situation and business the film now have you made any. I haven't paid attention to know you know. He's put his foot down and out. There have been any movement on that there has been zero movement. He did not show up this week. And jordan love said he will be one hundred percent ready should he get the call week one against you and the saints. Oh yeah well. I think you know players. You're starting to see more of it. You know players have the levers to do what's best for them and their career And i think he's. Obviously you know one of the top quarterbacks top three quarterbacks if not the top quarterback in his league and if he feels like he hadn't been done right by by the teams and you know he has every right to do you know he wanted to see the same thing with john watson And i think that that kind of leverage is is. I you know as a player. I'm happy that guys are taking it upon themselves. Putting you know using the power they have 'cause we saw these teams. You know the other foot do the same players. Cut players made contract trade on you know and have that have added to see a player for personnel role. You know. I think he's encouraging. Why do you think the it's happening more in the nfl. Now because we've seen it in the nba quite a bit and i've had so many conversations with nfl players saying hey we see in the nba It's a player driven league and obviously in in the nfl. There are some players that drive revenue drive wins more than losses. What why do you think we're seeing more of this in the nfl. Now malcolm we're starting to see the the business of the nfl gumi. I look at it new. Tv do you know every year you know we are the the highest grossing sport in america And we were helmet for living and now our individual players are starting to get you know more notoriety. More you know. Access leverage offer the field in with that comes more power than negotiating table. And i think once you start to see a couple of guys push against the establishment. Obviously you know you start to create a pathway for the guys to see you know that they can do it as well and you know an nba say you have league best player driven because they understand the value they understand that they are the product and i think the the nfl has been or nfl. Players have been late to the party on that curve is a little bit different dynamics in our league but you starting to see that shift as well on the mindset of today's athlete malcolm jenkins here on the rich eisen. Show one of the many reasons. Why like having you on malcolm is not only because we can talk ball but we talk life and other issues and so on i. I feel like i could ask you pretty much anything. And so in that regard earlier you mentioned how you're enjoying the camaraderie and getting back in a room because of protocols being loosened and part of the reason why that is taking place. Because if vaccines that vaccinations have actually turned helped. Knock on wood seemingly turn a bit of a tight on cove nineteen in this country. And we're we're hearing quite a bit of you know Bites from colleagues of yours players in the league that are resistant or warning to learn more. Can you walk me through what the players association mindset is or what the players mindset is in regards to the vaccine right now in the nfl best. You can tell malcolm. Yeah i think you know like any any concerned citizen rials concerned about their health. The health of their family members. You know education is the key part of this. If you don't know any better or don't know the information you're gonna be skeptical to do it. And when it comes to especially the african americans in this country who comes to medicine We don't have the best track record so you know it comes with being able to give people as much information as they can about what the vaccine is what it does how it works And let them make that decision on their own so not a mandatory thing But obviously we've seen not only just in our league but just in society in general our communities How effective it has been when you start to get more and more people vaccinated. We were able to get back to a little bit of a sense of normalcy but obviously understanding that the virus is still very real in and you know and we you know some things. We don't know about The vaccine things we don't know about a long term effects of covid nineteen. So it just comes with you. Know like i said just more dialogue or information to allow people to get to those decisions on their own and make the decision as best with them in their family but our players who are not vaccinated not allowed to I guess convene in a manner in which it seems like you and others are convening where you can be. As you sent the protocols being loosened there certainly a difference in the way that that's happening behind the scenes right now. What some simple things. Just like wearing masks right. If you if you've acclimated you don't have to wear masks and like for the first time of the year you know able to go to from my house without a mask on That feels great. But if you haven't gotten it you still got a you know where the and i'm sure as we get closer to the season you know. A lot of those protocols will be hashed out and kind of reevaluate it But i'm sure they're gonna be restrictions you know just like there will be in society you know inevitably for people who don't and people who do I'm sure i'll protocols. Reflect the same. And i think some of that convenience Probably you know nudge guys to to get the vaccine as well but you know what we wanna do. As especially from a standpoint make sure that nobody's being forced to give you not a mandatory thing But also you have to understand. You know that couple but israel and and if you aren't vaccinated protocols that you still have to abide by okay and then just one last thing. So is the players association Taking part in this education program that you're mentioning. I know that ron rivera for the washington football team whether you know A presentation with the vaccine to talk to the players and get them more Up to you know over maybe even fifty percent vaccination rate on the washington. Football team is there. What can you enlighten me about. What the players association is doing. The players association is is working directly with the league in tandem with league where we come out with what those protocols are to make sure that players you know are are safe in educating i think the teams have really individual clubs have taken it upon themselves You know to to really educate guys. I know even the staff here The entire building was one hundred percent vaccinated before the players. Even got here and so you know the players are. We're kind of the last wave of employees That are getting access to So you know it's it's it's one of those things where i think they're trying to lead by example and i'm sure it's different club by club But the the pa and the league or working hand-in-hand and make sure that they won't agree on what the protocols should be but obviously you know prioritizing keeping our sakes what's going on with your foundation everything else in your life. I'd love to give you the floor because you've always got something interesting and fascinating important going on what's going on with you. Knock him over the years. We've talked about many issues. You know from the criminal justice system from education and all these things and You know those things. I think i'm still continuing to push a lot of working and especially locally in philadelphia when it comes to policing and police oversight but one of the things. I've turned my mind to just really inane. We've seen it over kobe Nineteen pandemic with people struggling financially In any way you wanna have. Impact is is through financial freedom Focusing my attention to the wealth gap that exists in america. Right now where. I was quite family has about ten times the network of an average family and that that god is only gonna grow wider as we go on if we don't do something on foundations focus on financial literacy. We partnered with A company called black owned company. Call gold centers And pledge to start Thousand savings accounts for kids on that. Oh allow them to start to invest. So we're giving them money At a very early age and teaching them about investments and not just education but actually giving them some money to to start investing on their own Knowing that even that little bit of education grows their chances of being an investor by the age of twenty five going to college and having success. I'm gonna come to their finances. How can people take part again. Help out involved. They can go find out more about what we're doing If you go to d- jenkins foundation dot org We'll have you know all the things that we're doing not only financial literacy but some bar the programs that we don't we just had a scholarship program that we have in new orleans. We've been doing for ten years now or over ten years Where graduates You know we gave out scholarships. All of our stuff is there. If you want to donate please support the work of pollen tear or just get more information all that information is that the malcolm jenkins foundation dot org now. The reason why you call it. That is because malcolm jenkins foundation dot. Org was already taken or or what do you call it the way that you plus. It's it isn't it pronounced the i mean the malcolm foundation malcolm jenkins. That's only if your needs things it starts at the same time. It's t now j. Just like the house now see now putting together a certain school. I'm not for long. You gotta do anything coach No malcolm we don't something going on with aaron rodgers guy would let you slide on that one but you know you. You're up to speed enough. What's going on with michigan. You understand that or the school up north. pardon me. so how do you think in in in all seriousness. Urban meyer will fare in the nfl. After all those years in college and that the ohio state university. How do you think he's going to. He's going to do with this next level knock. We'll see i. I think always been you know a tough transition for coaches Mainly coaches who Are used to having a certain level of control clean level and now you're in a locker room with you. Know guys like aaron rodgers looking who can make their own decisions have been in the league for a long time. Who know what they're doing to their bodies ready And we've seen some coaches struggle with that. We've seen some do well. I think he's been known to be one of those controlling high-intensity type coaches And so it'd be interesting to see what the what is adjustment. You know as but you know. It's it's a tough league and if if you can't high in very highly competitive and and obviously already kind of making waves with the tibo signing and so we'll see we'll see where that goes. Well i mean to me. I thought you know that also you tell me if i'm wrong that that that would also indicate to everybody in the locker room in jacksonville that if that if it all out for us and you play the in the manner in which you know I want you to play for me that this this is for life that we're doing what do you think sit signing t-boz away to indicate to everyone in the in the locker room or you think it's just something that's totally out of left field and was maybe a little bit out of pocket. What do you think well. I don't i mean it's not like he went and signed every player that he played with a florida right people when the heisman for them right. So i mean if it's one of those if you're going to be the next league mvp for sure it's a forever thing but i think I don't know how many guys look at that move and you know and respected it As as as guys who in his league who've worked their entire lives here. What really really hard to stay here in a highly competitive space. I don't know if it was network on on a reception. Malcolm love chat with you Best to your family best to you. And what are you doing anything in the summer of before training camp. What what are you doing. You're going anywhere you're gonna just stay. Put what your plan for the kids a little bit um you know. How old are they enjoy the summer. Yeah my my daughters are seven and three your hands. Somebody invented a half birthday. I've got to have birthdays months. So i seven and a three year olds the. They're the ones who invented half birthdays malcolm off. Well have a great father's day then in between in looks chat down the line appreciate it. Presuming that's malcolm jenkins go. Everyone check out the malcolm jenkins foundation dot org to be part of all the great works that he is part of just. I just can't. I can't help yourself like v malcolm jenkins foundation dot org not an act. Somebody already has malcolm foundation dot org or malcolm again. I was just good for him. I just see shoots you straight. He's just a confident man with super bowl. Rings has made quite a career for himself in league where the average is fourteen four years and he's done at thirteen who he is. Just a confident manager. So tell you what you think and let the chips fall where they may. I love it. It's rare it's not It's rare it's rare and I open myself up to the broadsides and that's why november is going to come around and at some point november is gonna be broadsided right back and that day will be such a glorious day. I'm going to be impossible to be around impossible. It's going don't look at me and say it's not going to happen. The rest of my life. Don't say that it's just a bad stretch right now. They still have saint coach. Get out of you. Get out of here markham. Every time he talks you re comes in here he talks a little slick because with the couple of times we've met he's always got some like little side things to say about the cowboys. Zero had spent time in the eagles got past that he and i returned confident Left up prideful a prideful eagles pride saints pride buckeye prod. He's a great dude. Though man he's one to emulate that's for sure to look to one emulate Let's take a break I do believe we're gonna get diane ruthenian on the phone from titans. Camp tastic heard. Life is down taking photographs of julio jones like it's a wedding day we gotta help her through this. That's next different future starts with you. That's why go daddy does more to help you find the name you can create cell and get found online so any small business could be a driving force to create or build an empire we node ideas are cutting it anymore so call them for a new generation thinking your way of thinking so whatever you have in mind that will make a different future find everything you need to get started at go daddy dot com because the future is decided yet up to us to make it happen star different at go. Daddy dot com one. Odyssey created their white-hot putters. Twenty years ago it ignited a putting revolution and now the most iconic most played and most sought after putter time back introducing the new white-hot og line of putters from odyssey white. Hot g is defined by the famous urethane. 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I think that everybody's reaction to the jealousy of wanting to live through what we've lived through in the last fifteen years because people always say stuff they say stuff like. Don't you get sick a win you sick of it right. Isn't it like it. The be like boring because that's all they have. They have no. It's awesome. i opened continues. And i've enjoyed every second of it and when it's over you know it's going to be over. Well i mean this guy over there brockman with his red sox cap over there. Jim david price sound that when he was bitching about david price after the yankees beat him up in. What was that game to play. Court for bill barr. I want him to quit. I want him to retire on the spot. He's not gonna go. that's what i want. Terrible party you so furious david price. So you're kind of feeling good though like getting it off your chest like you could watch therapeutics saying that's what what's what is there. Something another sports fan that that sees the guy. I don't know just like i'm maybe. I'm just a much more sunny disposition. Type guy are you. Screaming hardens about him. This is about how great he is. I see what is no rich. I spent for it to me. I want to tell you something out of all sports shows i go. I think you're the the pleasant respectful to other fan base. Just think it goes back to like the tea party you know goes all the way back to like you like you don't feel represented you feel like you're taxed and feel like how do you feel. Do you feel represented in the sports i. It's always i have another teammate. Come into studio. Because i am teamed up against two on one with the new york. Don't you hate anytime like. There's a big boston Game what they show they show like lighthouses. Lobster fishermen and paul revere like that's massachusetts. I see. I never saw any of that growing up. I didn't have any lobster fishermen friends i never went to a lighthouse never went to the freedom trail. I never did it. I i've seen the line painted on the sidewalk. Who goes to a tourist attraction in your own city relatives. Come to town or do you to go to the us institution. I'll do you stand in line down like a great time. I'm going to dive bar. Where do you want to go next. You wanna cheers no. It doesn't look like that when you go inside so just take a picture outside. Ted danson you wanna get some shout. I hate clam chowder. It tastes like somebody already aided and then spit it back into the bull looks the same way. Happy third birthday. The one and only is indeed back here on the rich eisen show. We just saw a fantastic bill. Burr rant from three years ago. When i asked him why boston fans sports fans appear to be happy. Only when they're unhappy. We got a post that later on. Chris let's post ad clever later on our show page. That's that must be shared three years old three years old all right so put this tweet up again that we saw. I laughed out loud. The as the kids would say l. o. Eld diana ross seaney. I just took more pictures. And videos of julio jones and the practice field for the first time of the titans than any other moment in my personal life weddings birthdays family parties. Anita reevaluate my life. I i feel like you have to call people when when you see this sort of plea for help is diane rossini on the phone line ride from. Espn you there. How me i mean. I'm down on the ground. I laid down at one point to get this really good angle. 'cause i wanted to show his legs in how strong they are. I'm running from both sides of the feels. your variable. Apparently likes to make sure his media fit. I'm sweating was allstate in track new jersey okay. I didn't know what the hell happened. Me i even make it. I was actually like kind of giggling as i was jogging. This is awful. I mean i know this is a run first team. For why the heck did we have to run now. Do you know what because first of all there may be three is diana rossini. But you're a team player. That's number one number two what's happened to you is sports media. That's what's happened to you. Okay that's like a what fowler is like the only guy who seems to get stronger as long as these days in sports media like. I don't know how many other aikman i'm see troy aikman's workout videos and stuff like that very impressive. But he's a former professional athlete. But you just only no one speed diana you see store and you just go for. How many photographs did you. In fact take of. I look fifty four. What do this is what i'm thinking about. What the heck am. I gonna do with these. I already posted my one. Would i would think was my blockbuster that i posted my best video. Okay like do you want a picture of his family like no problem for you. Direct message. direct dina direct message. We'll take your we'll we'll take your third and fourth place best. Oh julio jones shots will post amman at richeisenshow will give you. The proper credit will do all of that absolutely but this is a big story. You've been covering this story. He's finally now actually here. Maybe that's part of your excitement to diana. I think that's what it is. I think i. I like going into situations and really having zero. Shame which is what i had today. you know the the beer reporters in tennessee are fantastic. Great job there. Like a freely fun group. And they're very accepting when i come in because i don't get to come too often But i wish. I could say brought like a level of just like national professionalism. I'm i'm worse than any now. The pr guy screaming at me. Put any step back. you're gonna get hit i. I don't really like rules so either way you're right. It is a big enrich. You wanna know why. I think it's a big story. Go from over the tree now. Good job john robinson way to go yet. You traded him on a on a pontoon boat with your family to me. It's the fact that this is voluntary and this is just a really really good first step in my opinion in telling this tennessee titans coaching staff the team. I'm here to be a tight and i'm here to play. I don't need to beer. I'm julio jones thirty two years old future hall of famer. Perhaps i don't need to but i am and i think the fact that he is hungry to learn and of course. I'm sure this doesn't surprise you. The first pasa practice from ryan tannehill went to number two damn strength. Exactly no and and and do you think diana direct diner. We're seeing espn here. Do you think there's anybody in atlanta seeing Julio working out right now voluntary after he missed so much practice time last year. Seem what the hell. Where was that guy. Is there anybody thinking. Atlanta thinking that when they see him out there at the volunteer. Abel's out here and thank god. Thank you. I'm thinking because you have to figure you know we know his style. We know who's coaching way. We know where he comes from. What how they did things in new england so to now be trying to make this little mini new england that he's trying to build here in in in a great way. That was the big question mark for me when when this was all happening and i heard tennessee pushing him pushing. I i was like i was just going to work. I had a hard time believing that they're going to allow. Julio jones not to practice if he doesn't want to practice from had heard in atlanta so this is this is just a really good first step granted it's day one of the honeymoon but Hopefully they can go a few years here with some success. It's exciting it really. Is they gotta be all fired. Up so I appreciate you hopping on. Because i'm sure you're doing. Millions of sportscenter hits. And then you are you. You're talking to julio later so what you're doing later on. It's actually happening right now. I tell you Well i'm just saying is that if you're if you're going to be talking later just let him know He's he's on And it's being recorded. Will you let them know that in for the happened i will. I will let him know that and then at the end of the interview i will say thank you. Here are the fifty seven pictures i have. I don't want don't forget the direct message. Some of them were text. Some of them test. And we'll put up there. We got you got you covered i. I worked for everyone these days. It doesn't matter all in this together we are. Thanks for the call. You take care. i'm glad you get your cardio. And thanks. God there's diana rossini of espn. Everybody that just made me laugh. The whole thing voluntary voluntary him watching videos volunteer or out. Now look great. Footwork is jeff jones man. Edible these julio jones and then all that's all you're gonna you just traded a two and a four two this year in a four next year forgotten practice a lot. You're registered a two and a four for guys gonna want all this money you straight at a two and a four for a guy who doesn't practice a lot he's gonna want all this money and who will get injured but here on june Right nine ten with the days. Just go on and on but here on june tenth. He's guy healthy practicing it. A voluntary camp not asking for another time. How about that about that. What if he doesn't ask for another dime thirty three years old. I'm just gonna go air at thirty two. I'm going ball out. I'm going to be thirty. Three what am i gonna ask for five more years. Maybe i just want to wet my beak a little bit. Because i love it here. These guys They wanted me. The general manager is dina pointed out of a traded from me on a pontoon boat. My with my with my with my wife and kids. Honey sorry kids. Dad's got to go get a goat. Okay potential goat. That's got an act. That dad's gotta bring julio jones to tennessee and he is maybe the third most rocked up guy on our in our huddle after aj brown and derrick. Henry yeah right come on the twenty three million the twenty two and twenty three combining. Maybe that's good enough for him right. Now that's what he is. He's a thirty two year old fired up to being his new spot showing up and practicing and just doing the voluntary thing. I love it. It fem let's take a break. We'll come back. We'll take some phone calls a nice big long segment before isaac. Bruce joins us. Bruce arians as chimed in on the subject of vaccines apparently paging. Dr arians aging. Dr bruce arians. Do you own or rent your home. Sure you do. And i bet it can be hard work you know what's easy bundling policies with geico geico makes it easy to bundle your homeowner's or renter's insurance along with your auto policy. It's a good thing too because you already have so much to do around your home. Go to geico dot com. Get a quote and see how much you could save. Its geico visit. Geico dot com today. That's geico dot com. Congratulations bruce congrat- just thanking about halfway up the river holding the lombardi trophy. You shed a tear. Holy we did. The you know coach. It really is a remarkable run at your team. Went on obviously from week. Twelve all the way through to that podium and it's interesting it didn't happen until the boat parade where it actually sunk in to you Yeah i really did. I mean i was going okay. We got to lombardy wound up boat. Everybody's their fans on both sides and then we hit a certain spot there was like fantastic buildings and hotels and top rooftop. I got the lombardi like even with my bad shoulder. I got it over my head. Gone i we he wander down super bowl now when on super sunday did you say i cross your mind bruce. You've been there done that. Obviously you know anything can can change where you thought. Okay this this. I think this is going to happen tonight. Was that for you. Not until devon's interception at the end that means. The patrick has come back so many times. He's such a great player and Until we intercepted that boston. There's just not enough time for them to get it back and get us and I put that hat on and all of a sudden. I got my first gatorade bath That actually hit me. Because the only other one i ever had was back at temple by have broadband suit and i was not gonna let them get me. I was quick back there. They couldn't catch up. But i just sat there. And when the gatorade hit me as i. I've been waiting for this for like thirty years when you were here. Bruce on the show. Okay and you were. You were talking to me. I believe it was just after you left arizona and you said that you'd retired as a family from coaching. Because you've mentioned that wife was was kind of through with the ups and downs of coaching. And maybe some of the health scares for you and now i'm just wondering if you wouldn't mind just getting a little bit personal about what this sensation is for you. Now that you've wanted on you came back and you got that. I mean we actually just got off a plane back here too late and to be home What she's been through for the last fifty years. You know our fiftieth wedding anniversary. June twelfth hopefully cove is over by then we can have a party but I mean what she's been through moving her nineteen times and Getting getting back here She's enjoyed this process this year as much as anybody and i wouldn't got back in coaching that she was all in and She's been all in tampa made it so special again. I cannot thank the glazer family and For everything they've done for my family. That's the one and only bruce arians kind enough to be a frequent guest on the rich eisen show. Check it all out where back here on the rich eisen show eight. Four four two zero four rich on our radio stations. We will be taking your phone calls shortly. as As you know we had earlier on in this hour. Malcolm jenkins and i wanted to ask him about what's going on with players saying that they're they're they're having difficulty grasping the idea that vaccines will get everybody through to normalcy. And you know malcolm did mention that african americans in this country Have a history of being on the short end of the medical stick To say the least that's one lightweight and put it Being used as human guinea pigs is another way. One might be able to put it. There's a history in this country and so anybody who's a person of color Having a question about a vaccine and one that is put together in short order Needs to be educated Sam darnold however is a white man and so there are many different viewpoints being brought to the table here by nfl players. Who are questioning the vaccine. Even though we're seeing full nba arenas were seeing full More full nhl arenas were seeing more full baseball stadiums. Outdoor the packers during our commercial practice just sent out a press. Release saying that they are going to have a full lambeau field. This fall that That fans were vaccinated. Do not have to wear a mask. Fans who are unvaccinated must wear a mask. They will not require proof of vaccination. It's an honor system and we hope that people who do actually go to these games follow said honor system because just because you've been vaccinated does not mean that you can't still get it and it does not mean that you can't still get it and get seriously sick that's what the vaccine supposed to prevent is serious sicknesses so i'm using my platform to try and let everybody know if this is at all a stop where you can be educated happy to do it. I am fully vaccinated have been since january. I vaccinated my twelve year old son. He's getting his second shot tomorrow. That's the way i view these vaccinations. I trust it. I fully believe this is the way that we get back to normal. Can't wait to see full lambofield. My god that one was the most spooky for me during the football season because it empty lambeau also think it's the way when bo is laid out. It's not one of these new stadiums that has all the different tier luxury gigantic. So nats empty kind of like the rose bowl here. Here's it's weird. I know it's really empty when it's empty so You have a quote from bruce arians when he was asked about the subject matter Earlier today chris rock. Eso you know other teams Ron rivera of washington Bringing in a vaccine equity and speak to the players to talk to the team And so bruce. Aaron was asked about this and he said quote. I'm the specialist. I told the players if you wanna get back to normal get vaccinated so he will not be bringing in a vaccine specialist. He is a specialist and he's already told him. Get your shot if you want to be back to normal exact and that's basically Straightforward as you can get from the your super bowl winning head coach. now look do. We look to head coaches for public health. No we don't we. Shouldn't we shouldn't but head coaches are in charge of their team and the nfl is from jenkins basically said look you wanna be back to normal get vaccinated. You wanna be walking around without a mask. You want to be able to go out for dinner. You want to be able to go out on the road. You wanna be able to go do what you normally do. Get vaccinated and your teammates. Who aren't sorry. Can't that's a workplace environment. It's something that bruce also also had another quoting everyone's tired of meeting here and eating outside and doing all the things we had to do last year. It is a personal choice. But i don't see a reason not to be vaccinated. It helps get your team back to normal and you can do other things that right. You couldn't do before correct. And i don't think the nfl's gonna test players if they've been vaccinated. I don't think they're going to do that. So players you know. You don't want a swab your nose or have to go get one at seven in the morning the day after you've traveled give accident eight four four zero four. Which is the number two dollars. Take ben and mississippi's phone call. It's been It's been awhile since we chatted with our friend and mississippi. What's up ben thing. What's going on in ben. All right number one. Congratulations on finally getting name. After a hundred and twenty seven tries. I'm proud of you for that. Okay extremely proud of you for finally getting the main guys. I'm watching out and make sure he's done. Just start doing willing. Because he had a little bit of success and interesting can go with success. So let's keep our ranch and makes me then just go off the cleal. But that's not the reason why call so cal last week and i pushed the doomsday. But no green bay in the future about watch. And i'm about to push the red button again on the portland trailblazers and my point of reference is going to be the minnesota temple from about twenty years ago because we talked about how they had playoff exit. Four out of the land fire for portland with minnesota had seven consecutive first round exit before than western conference. Riles and cam gone network. The player at the time. So what i am saying. It's time to move daniel. Look i know you've been part of keeping them important. But i do not see a move. That makes portland not only just eight pedal contender but western conference champion contender. And my thing is if there's not an can be made way to make some belt where it makes this team better and it makes them contenders. I think you need to make the move. And i and of course you can make the movies a couple of years from now but i think this would be the best time to make the move and one of the teams that i think you keep on the milwaukee books. I don't know they don't really have to do it. But if they wanted to get lost by brooklyn estimates and looks like they're going to happen. I think there's a couple other things. I can make the call but i think it's time to make the minimum and i know dying might not wanna do. Yeah but i think if winning is an as important as we like to think. I don't think it's unhooking important. I look i. I think portland should just close up shop at they. Trade damian lillard. They should they should just stop. Ceasing is a franchise. I mean you've got an all time great and you should be able to build around him. He doesn't want out to have him there. The fan base loves him rightfully so he's one of theirs Because they drafted him and he's been there if they can't win with them. I mean how. How do you just get rid of him. I mean you have to build around him and you can't tell your fan base. Hey we you know look come come come. See chris middleton you know i mean honestly i mean would you even get back. I don't even. I think you'd have to close up shop. You should just move to seattle. Just moved to seattle and say we're done here you know. I can't imagine they'd do that. Ben but it's an and i appreciate the call. Thank you call back. I think it's an interesting idea. Maybe one spot just becomes the location of all the guys who need who need the help. And can't get it in their franchise. Why why can't milwaukee just send you to portland. You know what. I mean that would be. Why milwaukee moralize you're not gonna trade jaanus i mean janas and then who else who else could be the third man who needs out to get their spot zion. Right at some point we're already talking about zion. That guy get him out of new orleans you should put them in madison square garden interesting note about third one interesting note about yoenis rich. Remember if we were talking about if the clippers blew this and lost a dallas that route para we'll be on the phone with him already and he'd probably be on his way out of la right. If the bucks gets swept by brooklyn they lose tonight and lose over the weekend. And that's a wrap bright. Are we gonna start having these conversations about yoenis wanting out. Let me ask you. That's another year in a row. That's that sound back to back. Year may be as the favorites or as a high seed. Jalen rose's saying yesterday janas doesn't make a shot outside the pain but he's a two time. Mvp i understand that great great. Tom tom thibodeau is one of the best regular season coaches. We've seen He just one coach. You get to the playoffs. Ask bulls fan if the knicks in the playoffs. This year looked familiar to you. Ask ask anybody who's a bulls fan with vivid. Oh great regular season postseason. Didn't look the same. Maybe could be an unfair accusation. This year that he ran too deep into the into the into the boards into the into the ground in the court. Whatever you wanna call it when the nigger massively over achieved. I mean they were only predicted. The i in twenty ish. All i'm saying is this. Chris is some point. Maybe it's the player. So are you saying. I'm doubling down on my worst. Take in the history of this show. Okay are you saying that. Janas can't be the best player on a champion. I'm not saying that he can't be your best player on a championship team. But i i mean what what's better he'd have to team up with somebody else is what you're saying. But he has teamed up. The milwaukee has built this team around him with who withdrew. Holiday and khris middleton are they. Would you even put those guys in the same category. Paul george who is the one. That co is teamed up with no but this is who they have. Constructed costanza probably told him. Hey get me some help. Or i'm going to bolt and this is who they got some help right and they're a very good team so who's going to. Why are they getting waxed. Will jaanus is gonna maybe have to do a co. i did which is just call somebody up and say come here pasta somebody else's marriage and say come here and paul. George did that for out of oklahoma city. I don't know what do you package middleton and some guys who does that net you. What if it nets daimler. D- do you think portland would really make a move like that. It's not gonna matter if dame says i want out do he. But he's not he hasn't we don't know that we dame said a few weeks ago that he has no interest in leaving before. Why would he do that. Kyrie irving said. He wanted his number in the rafters in boston. Guys changed her mind at the drop of a hat in the in the week. We we've seen that. If portland trades away damian lillard they should just they should just hand in their their their card standing there car to to to to the nba. And say we can't do it here. You have to try when you have to. You can't just trade him. I mean if he says he wants out then obviously fruit weighing portland. Can't get out of the first round. I don't know what to tell you chris. I don't know what the answer is. It's not like nobody will go to portland. The beautiful city fan base insane fan base is locked in that debt. That's the that's the only game in town literally on the professional sports. I get it. So it's i've been there it's awesome. I love their fan. What are we. What are we arguing here. That that the the blazers should trade away damian lillard till milwaukee wanted the blue box trae honest to to to portland team him up with damian. Lillard so portland for that too. He doesn't have to take a shot outside the paint. Let them do what he's to see. One of these two guys win a championship but on their current teams. They're never going to win watts. Because the rest of the league's teaming up with each other unless phoenix suns. The rescue unless the jazz. Maybe that's the equation. This year burst through. That's your variant. We we are going to see a new champion this year. But no i know that but it's also likely going to be a super team. I hope not mad. And i say that as a native new yorker and it would be great to see a parade and brooklyn and all the knick fans who are so thirsty all you thirsty knick fans out there who can't quit your smacking owner because it's the right thing to do and you refused. Take a a a a boss or a train or a courtesy car across the brooklyn bridge to the barclay center. It's not that deep in brooklyn like literally. You're not gonna jfk airport. It's not a long trip and you could see some of the best basketball in new york city that maybe one of the best basketball teams new york city's ever seen fact fact it. Would it would delight me but it would also delight me to see a team like utah or a team. Like the sun's yeah. There's no super team. It's just an excellent player at the top of his hall of fame. Game getting all the people around him so he could finally have his moment for a coach of the year that one coach of the year based on his peers. Not by any other. Vote monty williams right and and then you've got the utah jazz kid who donovan. Mitchell has become a superstar zone with a terrific supporting cast and a hall of fame new owner part of the ownership group. That's pissing off. Jay jefferson three time defensive player of the year. That would be great. Your sixers even you know people would say well. Embiid and simmons is kind of a super team combination. Both they were both trapped. Different store again. There they were both acquired. The legal means trust the process and for mississippi. Start an interesting conversation. I kind of shut him down. Like i mean portland if lillard says i want to stay. And they trade him. They should litter they should. They should just call adam silver up and say take us to seattle. Get us out of here because the the blazers fans would absolutely say. Why did you do that. Keep going maybe. The coaches the right. This right right change despite terrorists loved but he's been nine sees the right change. It is the right change but they need a superstar. Who's gonna go there and who wants to go there. I don't know who that is. I mean if they had janas their big time players in the west but while the bucks do that then the bucks could just in that car to if honest wants to stay if these guys want to go. It's a totally different story. Now becomes james harden. It becomes totally different story. Now doesn't seem like either of them one at leave at this point isaac bruce pro football hall of famer from the saint. Louis rams days comment up and that's the thing if they don't want to leave that's totally fine. You respect the loyalty. But they're never going to win and their cities. It's just it's just a fact so our number three. Here's what we're gonna do We've got isaac bruce. We've got michael. Holly what we're gonna do. Is that those two interviews in between Ballot check was asked about cam newton's health. Oh it's a terrific give and take we could play active right now We'll talk a little bit of baseball. And there's always i'll always whenever we do. The the bad will i'll throw in some good especially if it's mukhi bets ball out and is that good for Not good for me now. It's good for los angeles. It's good for baseball. You know it's better is is when mookie betts is good. It's good for baseball. Don't you think tj well. I mean like fernando tattoos. And if. It's not good for chris. This kind of like it's great for us know okay. Are you new here. Rob demovsky just tweeted some Jordan love pass you now. Sure all right notes from minicamp number three. This was forty three seconds ago jordan. Love eight of sixteen passing no interception in a red zone heavy practice trade. 'em did throw a ten yard touchdown across the winfrey and a twelve yard fade to tanya big bobby t call aaron right. Now call my mom on the fall. Oh man this rep to rep league could be so brutal in the middle of june so funny so funny our to our lab. Our mendes informs decisions this informs decisions. It informs it even even he said earlier like it was a jolt yesterday. Jolting entire team. Yeah totally oh man graduate. Somebody live tweeted this show. Well we actually do accurate We kinda do let are you mean someone else. Great segment rich nail that that segment excellent question. His second question was a little bit off base. Little bit out of touch. You know like every show like this like like that you mean live critique this show just like what what everybody's doing minicamp people do that for events and it's terrible high isaac bruce coming up our number three michael. Holly helps us take us to his show of the hour right here on peacock.

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"The era rogers has told certain members of the organization that he does not want to return to the green bay. Packers has every right to one out of green bay a want nothing more than to see him back packer uniform. Just kind of about philosophy. It's about it's about culture doing things right wet. Football is a team sport but right now this one on one battle if he misses the mandatory many the packers confined him up and ninety. Three thousand dollars. You expect him to be here. It is mandatory. Yeah i. I don't know we'll see tuesday. Tuesday is here and there was no sign of aaron rodgers at packers mandatory. Ot age looking at them right. Now we're less than two minutes away from a live report out of green bay with all the latest. We'll also be live with the cowboys. Dak prescott just nine months removed from breaking. His ankle was back on the field with his teammates. Find out what. His head coach had to say about his progress and the chance back on the field. Tom brady rehabbing from an injury of his own. He's on the field is let it rip out there today. Sal paolantonio with bruce arians to talk about the quarterbacks progress brady full go the first day of bucks many camp because of course he was forty three is apparently the new twenty three also coming later in the show. The reason why the cowboys offense is all about dak now and no longer about zeke welcome. Nfl live everybody. Seemed right here. Adam schefter tim hasselbeck and ryan clark with you for the hour. Let's roll right into green bay. My friends that's where all eyes are right now. And you're looking at video from packers mandatory many today. You're also not looking at aaron rodgers. Because of course he's not there that did not stop the rest of his team from being asked about the quarterback including head. Coach matt lafleur. I'm not gonna get into my conversations with aaron in the communication and I think you know Actually optimistic but You know again. We'll take a day by day and just do whatever we can to help remedy this situation. Honestly i got no expectations man. I'm just you know being supportive of my god Let it all unfold. how does obviously. I'm i'm praying that he comes back. We all want him back. Everybody needs to stop thinking about everything and everybody needs to understand. Mind each other's business and we play with eleven. We have in the bill. Whatever he wants to do. Whatever the situation that comes out. I will never hold any graduates That is my friend that someone that i have appreciated in. He has done a lot for this organization and for me as an individual. Now as a teammate. I would be idiotic to say that i don't want the mvp back. Well there you go and our daily report now from rob demovsky been all over this aaron rodgers three all offseason rod. The big june eighth date is upon us. No sign of rogers. What's the mood around facility today. Laura it's really become the new normal around here another open practice and another day that aaron rodgers is in here. the interesting thing today is that it is mandatory. As you said now. I ask coach matt floor if he's going to excuse him or if he's going to find him. Of course you heard. Adam schefter report that in the last couple of days that they could excuse them in. The floor would not say whether this was going to be considered an excused absence or a final one but it was interesting to note. The two of the guys we spoke with today are two of rogers closest friends on this team. You heard david bahktiar and davante adams. I asked david yari. If he thought aaron rodgers would ever play for the packers again and he said i have just as much of an idea as anybody else does which essentially means he has no idea and as for davante adams he was asked whether he would eventually get frustrated. That one of the great quarterbacks if not the greatest in the league wouldn't show and it would let them down and he said. I would stand on a mountain a bleeping mountain and say that. I've got my quarterbacks back. So at this point laura. The players are all behind rogers. They'd obviously loved to have back. But they're not gonna hold any grudges until he gets what he wants if he ever gets that from the packers and of course some of those players did hold out when it wasn't mandatory but now to make financial sense for them to continue to hold out more rob coming later on in the show the next state to keep an eye on by the way july twenty seventh. That's when the packers are scheduled to report to training camp. Let's get adam schefter and here. He broke the news on draft night back. In april roger wanted out. Adam has rogers stance softened at all now that. Ota's have started without him not in the slightest bit. Laura in fact yesterday. I was told he is quote unquote strong as l. in his stance and again. Let's just let the facts tell the story. He did not attain. Ota's foregoing a half million dollars workout bonus for the first on in his career. This is the very first time in his career that he's missed a mandatory minicamp which subjects him to ninety three thousand dollar five. The packers can wait and then you heard his closest friends on the team today so they have no idea if and when he'll be back well he's not there and they don't know if he's coming there and the packers organization has been meeting with him for five months now trying to persuade them to come back and he's still not any closer to be back any still mad as hell. Then what does that tell you it tells you that the green bay packers need to start preparing for life without aaron rogers and it was explained to me this way. Also that aaron rodgers if he were to come in if you were to come in and elevate this franchise the way he has throughout his career and winning mvp and they win games and championships and titles and all those things guess what that shines a light on all the people that he does not want to shine a light on. He doesn't want them to look any better than they have. When these relationships have been what they've been so there are a whole host of factors but if we just sliced through it all and look at the facts the facts tell us that the green bay packers have any major problem on their hands. Adam with us until five pm. We've known this whole time are see. This is not a money thing. It's not a football thing necessarily. It's personal so as you hear adams point there about if aaron rodgers shows up in plays and and makes this packers front office look good. That's not what he wants at all. How does that make you feel about this entire conversation. I mean been sitting from the beginning that this was personal. That it about business in depending on how you look at things how you feel about things you can either feel that. Aaron rodgers is in the right or aaron rodgers is on the side of wrong because he's not upholding to what his contract says. He's supposed to do bert based on personal feelings. But that's why when you as david bakaray adams they expect aaron rodgers to do. They have no clue because this is based in emotion. This is based on what you feel. This is no longer about an organization and its hall of fame quarterback. This is about a couple's dispute and you know what happens couples disputes. It doesn't matter what the facts say. It doesn't matter necessarily who's wrong or who's right in matters about what people feel and what aaron rodgers feels. He's been done wrong by the individuals that are for the green bay packers. He's separated that from the organization and so there's no telling where those emotions will take him or win. Those emotions will subside. So if you're the green bay packers you have to know that you're in a whole heap trouble. You better be getting ready to play without aaron rodgers. Listen i said you're right on the money that it's personal. I think it's interesting. You know adams nugget there about you know being explained to him in a way that you know erin comes back in. The team has success. Then you know it was basically the shine light and give credit to people that aaron doesn't want to have you know credit given to this. There's nothing more personal than that. And in many ways it kind of you know stinks to hear that if you're part of a team and the team isn't just made up of players. It's made up of coaches and people that work in the front office and other areas and that's a really bad luck and that's why this is about as ugliest. I've seen it in green bay with aaron rodgers. All of that to say it's pretty interesting. Hear some of those players talk because those guys certainly have his back especially the guys that have been with them for a little while. Because if aaron rodgers is wrong by not wanting other people to get credits why the that those players still also believe that. They have a quarterback play as well as they did and then have a quarterback drafted without any notice. David barry devante did exactly what friends are supposed to do. I tell my friends all the time. I'm with you when you're right and even with you when you're wrong a least publicly. They did exactly what you're supposed to do. If you're a part of that team. I love that solidarity. Allowed the way their rocket with him but at the end david. Tara showed a little bit of his true green bay. Packer teammate selfish. it. I'd be crazy if i said i did want the. Mvp back in this locker room because run. They know that if he's not back that they will be one of the worst in football and if he is back they will be amongst the best chance to tell us what you again. Which again will justify aaron rodgers feelings stance and decision with whatever he decides to do. What if he stays away and doesn't show up there and the packer struggle. That will validate feelings. It'd be goes in and please like the mvp that he is one of the greatest players of all time which he is and they win. Well guess what what our job by the president. What the gm. What are people that help. Bring back aaron rodgers and keep the packers were they have always been and so again. Hey i'll tell you what i'll tell you. What guys. I tell you what we won't get michael jordan jerry. Krause into the last dance then we will get the dance that was interrupted by aaron rodgers. Feelings he will have to say. I hated jerry and brought him championships. He'll say i liked those dudes. So i ain't go play a window games. Because obviously he took it personally. Yeah we can't wait for that thirty for thirty and maybe more than that checkout. Espn plus ten years. Do own or rent your home. Sure you and. I bet it can be hard work you know. It's easy bundling policies with geico. Geico makes it easy to bundle your homeowner's or renter's insurance along with your auto policy. It's a good thing too because you already have so much to do around your home. Go to geico dot com. Get a quote and see how much you could save. Its geico easy. Visit geico dot com. Today that's geico dot com. Check this out. We're exactly two hundred and days away from super bowl. Fifty six so fi stadium. Can't wait for that. That's a place at tom brady. And the buccaneers would like to try to defend their title february thirteenth. And there is tom brady. There's some veteran quarterbacks for like a good on campus but a pass on that or maybe take a backseat during this time. Not tom brady looking out there today. Number twelve getting back in action and ready to go you see. The rap has around his neither more on that. Of course later sal paolantonio in tampa with the buccaneers and sell. You had a chance to go one with head coach. Bruce arians today. What did he tell you. Well bruce arians. Laura was shocked. Tom brady did all the work that he did. During this first day the mandatory minicamp. We all were members of expectation from the coach last week. Was that brady was going to do a lot of coaching. And not much else will exactly the opposite happened one hour and forty minutes of details specific tough work with the entire ballclub on the field and afterwards i asked bruce arians well. What is tom brady right. Now how's he look ninety percent. I was really pleased with what he did today. As little scared took him out of the blitz draw they want anybody running around his feet but They wanted to get in there. That's that's ninety percent of the battle. Because really bruce. I mean the whole thing. Is you gotta make sure that this guy stays healthy for training. Camp is ready for september twelfth right and then you got a seventeen game season. So how much of this is managing a guy who's going to be forty four years old this year. Yeah he learned to love that last year. How i handle that. You know there'd be a wednesday or that he'll take off here and they're just hey. This is about the time this month. We're gonna take this wednesday off. Where's your arm training camp. The same thing we're not going every day and Way i manage all the vets did. Oh we've got some very very young players and we've got some guys that don't need to practice every day you know it's really interesting. Laura i asked bruce arians about the specific nature of what tom brady did on the field. He said that todd bowles books. Defensive coordinator but a lot of new defensive plays and didn't tell anybody about it and brady was asking arians about it afterwards so brady's trying to catch up right here. In june july twenty fourth is the beginning of training camp. I have a feeling you'll be seeing me back here. In tampa with the super bowl champs. What do you think. I mean really give you the toughest diamond hanging out in tampa bay there with a chance tut stuff for you. I love it all right. The bucket here is. We'll try to become the first team to repeat as bowl chance since brady's patriots did it in two thousand three and two thousand four since two thousand five actually five of the defending super bowl champions had missed the playoffs altogether wall. Seven have been eliminated in the wildcard round. Only three made it back to the super bowl. They'll loss by the way. The twenty four team seahawks twenty seventeen patriots and most recently the twenty twenty teeth. So it's no secret. It's pretty hard to repeat as champion of anything. Definitely hard as a super bowl champion. Rc your team had a chance in two thousand nine after winning super bowl forty three to try and repeat. What's it like going to camp. And then the season trying to do it all over again. The camp into they're mostly like all the camps in seasons. I think coaches work a little harder to point out some of the deficiencies and some of the places. You have to get better because obviously some the guys are still riding on the high horse appointing that lombardi trophy. But it's more so about the way that people play you. It's more so about understanding that you'll be attacked weekend and week out. And that's when coaches are trying to get you to understand that it's not the thirteenth grade right when you gradually college. It's a totally different thing. And that's what each year is in the nfl. Bay buccaneers are only the defending super bowl champion in. Its namesake right in the history books. Far as what. They'll be on sundays and mondays. And thursdays throughout the season is another team trying to win the championship that year and the tampa bay buccaneers had the perfect quarterback to understand that. And that's tom brady. Yeah ours is the current sixteen years stretch without a team repeating a super bowl champs as the longest. nfl history. Some sad news today as former giants coach jim fossil has died his son. John told the los angeles times. He was under sedation after being taken to a local hospital with chest pains and died on monday. Fossil coach the giants from nineteen ninety seven to two thousand three one coach of the year honors in his first season and appeared in super bowl. Thirty five against the ravens adam. You covered fossil for years. Grew to know him personally. What's your favorite memory of the former giants head coach. And he was a great man and he was somebody that coach john elway in college then again in denver with the broncos he was somebody that would call you up on the phone and not let you off continue to tell you stories and share insight and wisdom was tremendous like that but i think one thing that people will always remember jim. Fossil four is the soundbite. That he delivered in the giants. Run to the super bowl. So if you got the crosshairs you've got the you got the lazy to write on my chest. i'll take full responsibility. i'm raising the stakes right now. This is a poker game. I'm showing my chips to the middle of the table. I'm raising the anti anybody. Wants wants out get out. This team is going to the playoffs. And that team did go to the playoffs and jim fossil delivered on that promise and it was another one of those great guarantees in new york and it was an underrated soundbite and jim fossil was a great man. Condone this to his family. Yeah coz fossil was my first coach. She's the only coach. They gave me an opportunity to play in this league. And you don't necessarily think about people every day. But when i finally read this news and saudi past thought about something he'd be for me. My first opportunity started was on prime time it was it was against tampa bay buccaneers and we were really not playing. Well he looked at me. He said you know what this is the team that gave you a chance. You worked to earn this opportunity. Isn't this exactly what you've worked for. And he said he was happy to be the coach to give me that chance and when no other coach thought you were good enough to have you on their team. Here's the coach. Who decided to keep you because of your play even starts you because of the pure play in opportunity that you earned and he took his time and giving one of those great speeches that was four of their entire team and he looked at me and he pointed at me and he looked me in my eyes and he gave me something from his heart. I think that's who joe fossil was and that's who he should be remembered as for the football community for all of us. Whoever got an opportunity to play for and this is a huge loss of really good man countless people benefited from the belief that jim fossil instilled in them. Our thoughts are with the fossil family. Welcome outside lines. The emmy and peabody award. Winning show tackles the most important issues in sports. Sierra history time what college athletics is going to look like taking you beyond the headlines to every sport is yet your important but you're not as important as the menstrual with perspective from the best analysts in the business now for the first time the dallas cowboys be black quarterback who is one hundred percents of the outside the lines every saturday at nine am eastern on espn soccer. The nba playoffs in ufc to sixty three highlight our sports lineup. We'll have the euro matchup between turkey in italy friday afternoon on. Espn with belgium and russia. Saturday on abc game. Three of the western conference semifinals between the jazz and clippers. Is saturday at eight thirty eastern. We kept the night with ufc to sixty three on. Espn plus pay per view. Got you covered right here on. Espn and abc. Couple of weeks ago. That prescott said he's already ready to play. The season started right now. He does have quite a bit of time following his broken ankles still lead. You're looking back on the practice field out there today. He participated in seven on seven. Edwards is covering the cowboys. Ota's ed what's the team saying about that tells cowboys head coach. Mike mccarthy described quarterback dak prescott is being exactly where he needs to be as he continues his recovery from the leg and ankle injuries. That ended his twenty twenty season after just five games and required two surgeries prescott span. Held out of eleven on eleven work to this point to prevent any defenders from inadvertently falling into him. Mccarthy says that plan will be followed throughout this minicamp with the expectation being. He participates fully during training camp. Mccarthy said they believe the quarterback will be able to practice every day but also said they're not naive and recognized the possibility of adjustments being necessary for any player coming off a major joint injury. Things that i to say guys. It's fun to watch. dak move around other. It looks like he's moving around pretty good. There's pressure every season win in dallas cowboys. But who's going to be filling it most this season. Oh it's the defense. I mean the defense was like peppy. Look you stake last year. It was absolutely awful. We were talking about these record. Numbers being put up by dag. And all of these great wide receivers with those numbers were needed just to lose by not even to win football games. You replace mike nolan with dan. Quinn ukrainian a great defensive back coach. Joe wing who's been in this league for over a decade and you drive defense. Mike parsons kelvin. Joseph and you said you know what we're going to focus on getting better on that side of the ball to help offense. We know what data can do. We know what. Elliot do ceedee. Lamb amari cooper gallup. What are they going to do on the defensive side of the ball. Two new guys play well in case some of the old players get back to the form that got them paid by jerry jones. Say that's actually why. I think the pressure is on mike mccarthy. Look no one's going to be like. Hey you know dan. Quinn can't coach backs the mike mccarthy fires defensive coordinator hire new one. Mike nolan was his higher. That was his fault. We technically why they year ago. And i'll -fensive festively. Everyone believes in duct. Prescott got the quarterback under contract. He's healthy. he's got plenty of good players around him. Zeke elliot probably should have a bounce back year. Offense is the background of mike mccarthy. I actually think this is a situation now where you go. Look the if they're not winning. People aren't going to blame. That people are gonna blame dan. Quinn people are going to blame. Mike mccarthy so i think that's really where the pressure is much things on the hot seat to lose his job but that's the plane if they have another losing season because the previous four years under jason garrett they were five hundred or better listen. I think tim's points are well taken. But i think there's something about putting a cowboys. John blast that's become a sport. I won't give we do that for jason season. It's a people's putting mike mccarthy on blast okay. Do i agree with what you're saying. But hey mike mccarthy your seats get warm real fast for tim. Hasselbeck do listen permai. Nothing mike doesn't know there were six ten last year. It stinks your quarterback got hurt. We'll guess what. Mike tomlin went. Eight nate with duck. Hodges and mason rudolph like people and i can't imagine jerry jones cares so the reality is like the dallas cowboys your quarterbacks on a deal to pay a one hundred forty million dollars. I lost the bet that pay the pew would end up in. Nfl lives day. That's a whole different kind of we're saying that there's no pressure on track. There's no pressure on zeke. Is that really true. Those two guys you would think that there would at least be something on their shoulders. Hey listen listen your pockets or is that the elliott are right now. there is no pressure. You're not arguing about home. Listen there's a press before louis guys to perform but not necessarily the way that they had throughout the years that prescott earned this deal through his plate through his leadership. Ezekiel elliott the same way. Now i think some people feel like zeke needs to play better. He needs to step up. He needs to carry the team. But when you look at all of the weapons that they have offensively. They're expected to score. They're expected to be able to put up points. And i think that they will. Because we've seen that dumb done by these group of individuals. We haven't seen this defense work. We haven't seen this defense coordinator these new players this new scheme and everybody believes that wasn't the offense that made this team cintas last year. I think that pressure lies squarely on the side of the football. That has to stop other people from scoring and listen. I these guys when that puts his head on the pillow at night. I don't think he's ever thinking man. I hope i play well this year like i think that is the further he knows. How good of a player is he may say hope. I could stay healthy this year. You don't. I don't think we're ever a question in his mind based on his resume what he has done in the national football league that he wondered if he's going to be good enough he's been more than enough and mine got rewarded for it to me. I don't think he feels that type of pressure pressure stay healthy shore. Dak has some mattress commercials. I wonder if he's laying in his mattress at night thinking i do to score forty five points per game. If we've got any chance of winning and listen about the cowboys all off season. And i know that's no surprise anybody back to our top story today with also stay on a significant moment in the standoff between aaron rodgers and the green bay packers he was not president mandatory. Ota's dune eight is a day. We all had circled on the calendar. Don't think many expected. Rogers show up at adam forcing broke. The story came to a head on draft in april nearly six weeks of passed or the sides any closer to figuring this thing out. We'll six weeks have passed since the draft. Laura and five months really passionate. The green bay packers officials have been meeting with aaron rodgers. Flying out to meet with him. And nothing's changed. Our roger seems every bit as entrenched in his stance today as he was when the packers officials mark locally brian now of war i became aware all his unhappiness and despite their repeated trips to meet with him and despite their repeated. Please request to see what they could do differently. Nothing has changed. And so that's where you got to begin to wonder. If over five months and continuous meetings and continuous conversation. Nothing has changed. What will change it. I know some people thrown out. Oh a new contract will change this. I think this has anything to do with a new contract. I think this is much more personal than it is about a new contract at the packers. Could go and give our rogers and keep in mind. The packers don't have a single owner. They could step in the way. That rooney would read that a craft would. This is a different operation and so the packers are operating with different circumstances. But nothing's changed. I was told yesterday that are rogers is quote unquote strong as l. in his stance of where he is today. And if nothing's changed and he's still strong as hell and he missed his first set of ota's and he's not mandatory minicamp for the first time sometimes when the facts add up to a certain situation and there's an accumulation of information we can believe it. Yeah it's an extremely important clarification by you to adam. That is not some situation where they can. Just get rid of brand goons to make aaron rodgers. Happy that's not the situation. They're in green bay based on how they're constructed as an organization tonight. We'll have game one of the best of three women's college world series championship series from oklahoma city couples softball powerhouses on the big stage number one seat at oklahoma taking on florida's state our pre game coverage starts at seven eastern on espn and the espn app. The atlanta falcons expected to trade wide receiver. Julio jones to titans we don't indulge you. The goal of call them on tennessee reservoir. Snell come home come home. All right falcons fans turn away. We're gonna have to get used to it though right. Julio jones you see it right there arriving in nashville and monday. The seven time pro bowler officially traded to the titans on sunday he landed yesterday was greeted there by gm. John robinson heard from polio's top recruiter a brown moments ago. Well apparently there won't be negotiating for the number eleven jersey and tennessee brown tweeting today number. Eleven until i retire. I tried to give it up. He wouldn't take it respect. How about that at a. Julio nana you can keep eleven all right so if you think about what this titans offense is gonna look like. It sounds pretty scary right. And you think about this three headed monster on this offense ryan from the defensive standpoint. How do you try and defend these guys. Now with billy jones it does it. Closer is and shake your head right. What would you do when you pull up in nashville. The coaching music will not be for you. The barbecue won't either. Unless it's julio derek in aj barbecue to the into a be stressed out about the tape are as is beautiful tape in very accurate defending is going to be hard because because just the physical nature of the guys that have on their roster. I think the excitement surrounding julio joining the titans is real and it makes a ton of sense. The question i ended up having i is really two. Fold one is how is he going to adjust to the new role. Think about this. Julio jones average nine point eight points per game throughout his career that is the most an nfl history receivers love it when they run routes in the ball gets thrown north. They hate when they run. Routes in the ball doesn't come their way. What is he going to be like. How's it gonna feel to him when he is a game where he's targeted twice. Maybe three times maybe has one catch for seven yards. Just think about it this way you know. Aj brown was the number one wide receiver last year in a run first offense. He had just over a hundred targets his his his share of the targets is going to grow in. Julio is going to get smaller. I just think that is going to be a big adjustment for. He's used to play the game. Yeah i mean. I was ready to go ahead and give the titans the the super bowl and then tim comes in here saying that are seeing. It's like after your tape. I was giving them the super bowl. And then tim pour some water on that. What are we got it all right for tim to do that. Understand what he's saying especially offensively but just having the opportunity to play call the way they will is a different deal for their. They have head that type of flexibility. But this is about deficits to me if this defense can make huge plays when they need to not necessarily be a top defense in the league. As far as shortage goes but they're good and situational football generis jenkins the caleb farley's allies your mortgage crystal to step up and be good in that secondary. This is a team that can challenge. She get kind of in that realm and on here with the cleveland browns and the buffalo bills right especially in their division. All right in other news quarterback ryan tannehill officially restructuring. His contract today or jeremy fowler. Adding some context. It's really interesting. He tweeted that the titans got indication. Saturday that tannehill restructure would work out which set the stage for the julio deal. The next day those moves had to be made together. The movie reportedly freed up more than fifteen million in cap space. And it makes sense that you think tannahill would want to try to do everything he could get. Julio jones former chiefs assistant brit. Read the son of andy. Reid has pleaded not guilty to a felony. Dwi charge an yesterday. A judge ruled that he will be allowed to resume driving as long as he passes a breathalyzer type tests before his vehicle starts. Prosecutors say read was driving just under eighty four miles per hour had a blood alcohol level point one one three nearly two hours after a crash on february fourth that five-year-old aerial young with a traumatic brain injury. Reid faces a maximum sentence of seven years in prison and no trial date has been set mess. Minicamp officially underway and that means all on aaron rodgers today in green bay. See everybody out there. There's jordan love. There's no aaron rodgers jordan. Love is qb one. Aaron jones out back in action and of course davante adams getting his resin. Let's bring in rob demovsky. Who was with the team today. So no rogers all lies on jordan. Love rob what did you see as love. And the starting wide receivers finally took the field together for the first time. well laura. It wasn't quite all of the top receivers. Yes devante adams was here and we heard from him today but we didn't really see him do much on the field. He was just working off to the side while the rest of the team went through their drills. But it was an opportunity jordan. Love to work with some of the rest of the top receivers. The allen lazard valdes scantling and devin funchess. And it didn't go all that well in fact it was probably the least accurate day that we've seen from law during the three open practices we've had. He failed in a two minute drill. And yes i kept stats. He was twelve out of twenty three just barely over fifty percent. All right. well listen. I mean you can't deny these facts. Rob it with zone is there. And i don't wanna get too dramatic about this right. It's the first time really getting to see jordan love in this type of environment but are see in your mind. How concerning is that report concerning. I think it's thing that we report on. Because every rogers isn't there and he isn't there jordan. Love will have to be the quarterback. I mean there were times we stumped out at practice and ben was still able to go out there and win two super bowls. So i'm not saying jordan. Love is ben rothlisberger. Sometimes you're playing experienced veterans defensively urine. A two minute drill. They're going to get some wins. They're going to throw some bad football this about his continual progression. Now we're having these conversations into training camp closer to the season after the preseason. I think it's concerning because row ball is about to be played adam. Is there a real chance that jordan love is the starter week one against the saints. I mean you tell me what. Aaron rodgers is thinking at this point time and whether he'll follow through i think there are people who insist that he won't budge and now he will stay in the state so that that's the case yes jordan loves your week one star. We just don't know with. The aaron rodgers will come off a stance. He has not bought off of for five months now again today. His clothes teammates. David bought the davante adams. Talking and again. I think that's almost like the packers back. Handed way of emotionally appealing to aaron rodgers. C. here or your guys. Here's how much they want you here in green bay. Come back to them and to me. That's the packers best. That in time that he loves the sports so much that he loves his teammates and coaches so much that he goes back to support them. But then i come back to what other people have told me about the fact that he doesn't wanna make the other people look well that he hasn't budged strongest hell. He hasn't attended as yes. An attended mandatory minicamp and that accumulation of information. There there is again getting out to make it sucks that. There's a realistic chance. Yeah that little could be starting week one. I see the players react to her. Not being there a little bit differently than i don't think the team put those guys up to that whatsoever. I think they got asked about it. I think they spoke about the friend. And so i think that you know that support their like in some ways putting a little bit more pressure on the team when you have stars like davante adams david backyard being like Yeah of course we want him here thing. That puts pressure on the team. Is when the quarterback who you drafted in the first round after. Aaron rodgers throws over fifty touchdowns in like six picks in two thousand eighteen and nineteen draft in the first round. And then. He's your third quarterback all of last year when that guy doesn't play well in rob demovsky keeping stats now in the hold up back yard. It were ahead of billy madison. And he was right that you were wrong. Yeah you know. Adam go ahead go ahead. No i'm just saying you're gonna house right now you to say you is kind. You is smart you is. We need you banking. Hey it's interesting. Because adam reference this you know maybe the packers are banking on aaron rodgers. Saying i just want to go back and be with my teammates with the coaches. That i love so we know. They're not the problem for him. But tim. there is a world where aaron rodgers is sitting at home. You know and and he's watching all this go on and people are going to keep talking about jordan love whether it's positive negative. Maybe it changes. How do you think tim that affects the way that aaron rodgers starts to feel about all this. Yeah i think you can isolate him the voluntary stuff you know. The wide receivers basically decided to stand arm and arm with him and not go. You know he had some company from his voice like now all of a sudden it doesn't make sense for them to skip these Mandatory sessions because financially would hurt them and so now he can be isolated and if jordan love had a good. Two minute drill today guys would be talking about. Yeah he looked great. You know clearly you know. It's been a good offseason form and now you can start to feel isolated if you're errands. Yeah look that ends up being the danger and thing air and is trying to basically let everybody know who ran good consensus to say. Look look what i've done for this organization. Look what he's done. Yeah if you didn't know that name Prior to these recent months you now do you get the last word here well. It's also something that i think is important for jordan to go through this week because he better get used to the idea that everybody is watching him charting him documenting him criticizing him because all eyes are on jordan from this point until our rogers does or doesn't show up in green bay again. Do you own or rent your home. Sure you do. Fortunately geico makes it easy to bundle your home. Encour- insurance it's a good thing too. Because having a home is hard work go to geico dot com. Get a quote and see how much you could save. Geico dot com easy.

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"We are back and we're jam packed. Get up on. Espn live as always above the heineken. river decade peers. Seventeen let's not waste any time and get right to it. Nba action last night thriller of the night was a good one out west in salt lake. Donovan mitchell and the jazz taken on the clippers game one donna vigil was dominant fourth. Quarter jazz up five and here. He comes defend one. Two three. can't stop jessica seven point lead mitchell. Wjr four forty five under a minute to play. Clippers are down by six looking for room. Can't find that's luke. That's an awkward. Look falls going to tiptoe to paul george. He had a bad night. Four of seventeen but that one goes into three point game ensuing possession. Twenty three seconds left donovan. Mitchell looking for a little space can't get it to go and so here we go fifteen seconds left clippers. Will they call time timeout. No they won't down by three. Where are gonna go a bucket. Look at the defense smothering. They're all over the place. Why he can't get it up in the corner to marcus. Morris here comes rudy gobert. That's why he was defensive player of the year go. There were huge block. And that's all she wrote mitchell's forty five or enough. Go bear with the big play at the finnish jazz hoban. They win game one one. Twelve one zero nine. That's how that one begins. Meanwhile the performance of the night belonged to joel and be he was spectacular in game one against atlanta and here he comes gain to last night sixers look at a slowdown. Trae young early. They were all over him early in the first talks down by six. That's no good now. We'll go in the way tobias harris throwing it down for the sixers fans love a fast start. They're up sixteen points in the first. And they got more seth curry. Give it up ben simmons. Throw it down hawks. Down by sixers would hold trae young at twenty one in the game and then be going in the second quarter because lions come just a two point game but look at embiid working on quit cappella showing you the strength sixers four under four minutes to go in the hand sixers up six and be little fall away. He had eleven points in the second quarter. Two point lead at the break. The third sixers. Four time expiring. How good was shake noting last night court. Fourteen points in fourteen minutes. There were three of them right. They're beating the buzzer. They go to the fourth with a seven point. Lead and joel embiid would take care of the rest Sixers up seventeen. He's that one down. Forty points to go with thirteen rebounds for joel embiid and the sixers win game two one. They desperately needed one. Eighteen to one two a game that felt closer than the final score with that series. Now one the sixers minus two forty favorites to advance to the conference. Finals gordon to caesar's william hill our analytics. Meanwhile the basketball power index give philly an eighty three percent chance to win the series meanwhile to the nfl where aaron rodgers opted not to join the packers as they open camp. That was yesterday marking the first time. In rogers career he has skipped mandatory. Training camp. here are his head coach and his number one receiver singing very different tunes after day. One anytime you're talking about Any play on your football team. You'd love everybody to be here and so You know it certainly. It is what it is man. I think you know. I'm naturally optimistic but You know again. We'll take a day by day and just do whatever we can to help remedy this situation. If there's ever a wonder of you know he's lost a or some because of all this come out like he knows where i stand austin on. Excuse me a stand on a mountain in in Scream on a mountaintop. You know that that. I got his backing you know. It's not like i'm saying forget the front office. I don't respect what they have gone onto saying back my guy well. Isn't that an interesting start to mandatory minicamp in june. And here's rob demovsky. Who covers the packers for so well. How would you describe all the things that happened yesterday. Green and a lot of ways. It was the new norm right. I mean he hasn't been here all off season and minicamp started and he wasn't here again now. I did ask coach matt. Lafleur would excuse him from this or if he was subject to fines and leflore would not say so. We're still efforting to find out. Just how they're going to treat his absence But the one difference is his receivers. Were hearing you heard davante adams. Apparently he came back from that mountaintop that he referenced. But i wanna tell you what another one of his friends. David bahktiar either left tackle said remember back. He's the guy who goes to the kentucky derby every year and was there this year with rogers. He said whatever. Rogers wants to do as his friend. I won't hold a grudge. But as a team i would be idiotic to say i don't want the reigning. Mvp back here with us to all of that is going on. And oh by the way jordan. Love is getting all of the work as the quarterback here in could very well wind up being set up to be the starting quarterback when the season begins. So how'd that go so far. Well yesterday it didn't go so well greenie He was inaccurate to say the least. But i wanna tell you something that. They're doing here that i've never seen before. In my twenty five seasons of covering the packers they gave jordan love just about every single rep in a team period. At one point. I counted sixteen straight. Plays now why is that different is. Because here's how they normally do at greenie. The starter would take four or five snaps than the backup would come in and take two or three and then the third stringer would take one or two and then they'd go back and start over again. Well they're crash coursing love right now and matt lafleur told us yesterday. That love needs quote. All the reps he can get at this point once again. Actions speak far louder than words. If he's getting that much work it is because they expect. There's at least a real chance. He's going to be their quarterback. Rob demovsky outstanding. Stay close by. We will certainly need much more for. Meanwhile i'm coming over here. Because dan orlovsky is joining the party and that means the fireworks are certain to begin. Actually i'm staying over here all the rest of you were just coming over to me all right or las game starting with you as you hear all this and you hear davante adams and david bacteria passionately defending their guy. What thoughts go through. The green bay. Packers have way bigger issues than just doesn't want to be there anymore. Okay now. you've got teammates. Ota's that didn't show up now. The teammates are coming out and saying we've got the players back which they should but they're being outspoken. saying whatever aaron rodgers wants indoors. Doing we've got his back now. My mind goes to brian. Couse their general manager. Because i'm trying to figure out why they love. Brian goodwin console much your organization. Not only did he do something darkness that came to the light. Which is the drafting of jordan. Love and never communicated at taryn rogers as of right now. It doesn't look like a very good pick. Greenie i mean jordan. Love is the first round quarterback since two thousand five to not start a game. Now we're not as and we're hearing that the accuracy issues are still showing up and rob demovsky point of him. Getting those sixteen straight reps is a great one. I've never seen that. And for the for the football organization the coaches to sit there and go. This kid's got to get sixteen streps and it still not to show. Signs of improvement or progress is alarming. It is because and bug noses in otas. Life is relatively easy for a quarterback. We're not getting hit. And we're not in pads at a premium a paramount and for that not to be the case for jordan. Love not only was the pick done in darkness right now. it doesn't look like a great one speaking of in darkness of mcfarland. I'll come to you in a moment as you were obviously in some sort of witness protection cell that we have you in today but i want tanta bam. You're shaking your head vigorously. Why because the ten offer on so many points first of all. Why are they like brian. Coup they went to back to back championship games. That's really hard. They have the rainy and repeat to be. Mvp you have to have a great supporting cast around him. They traded up for quarterback in the first. That's not a felony. They made a mistake. They could have handled it better but drafting another player at your position is called being responsible and having good strategic planning and relates to jordan love. We gotta keep this guy's last year was a pandemic. every rep was critical to get our rogers ready. If you said to me who need more work jordan love or just feels. I would say jordan love because justin feels played last europe and jordan. Love didn't have any opportunities at practice or the game so we can't give a great joy love. It's way too soon. So i think we have to keep everything here in context. It's an interesting perspective. Because yes they could have been handled better. Obviously but is it worthy of what has turned into internet self. Probably not so. It's an indication that are there are other issues here beyond just that one that may have been a tipping point of some sort booker. What do you think of the whole thing. Well the issue's trust green. And to dan and mike tease point. I'm going to side with t. On is i'm not going to judge a quarterback based on. Ota's i'm not gonna judge any play. Football is played with pad zone with someone having the ability to knock your block off so until we get to that point. This is just running around the football run. I'm not going to judge. I am not going to judge. Jordan logo net now. As far as brian goods. I agree with my. He's built a good team. That's the reason why the organization is siding with him. He's done a pretty good job now. He's not without mistakes. He made a mistake because he did not communicate to an rods. The mistake was not drafting jordan. Love it was not communicating to rogers. Here's what are three to five. Year plan is because any good organization has a three to five year. Plan doesn't mean you're gonna you're going to do everything or act on everything in that plan but you gotta be able to share that with their star quarterback greedy. I think this thing is that appalling point because green bay understands that aaron rodgers is dug in. So yeah you gotta give jordan. Love a lot of rips man. He didn't get any reps last. You didn't play last year. He's gotta get tunnel rips. I don't care if he gets twenty in a row. I am not going to judge this. Young man based on organized team activity. Because i put about as much emphasis on organiz team activities as i put emphasis on my hair green and you see i have not only. Did you play last year. You're right. He didn't get practice reps with the ones all season. Aaron rodgers took every single. I team practice rep last year for the packers right through the regular season and the playoff there were no preseason games last year when the packers drafted jordan love. Their their outline of an idea was that the transition would occur in twenty twenty two. At that point aaron rodgers they could move on. We could get into the salary cap details. Don't have to but twenty twenty two was the goal. They weren't anticipating having to play jordan. Love in twenty twenty one so because of the fact that he didn't get those reps last year and they may have to accelerate his timetable. That's why that's going on in practice right now where it leads. Are they going to be able to start. 'em aaron rodgers doesn't show up. They don't know that yet but they have to give him the best possible chance to get ready and that means a ton of reps this week the most important thing and then our lower scale let you finish it up here but graciana the most important thing are the packers any closer to believing they need to trade him today than they were on monday. The packers are right now. As dug in as aaron rodgers is on what we described earlier as a game of chicken and right now they are their stances. What mike tannenbaum has articulated. Look if you wanna play football still. It's going to have to be us. And if aaron rodgers willing to sit out training camp if he's willing to sit out regular season games maybe then the packers perspective changes but so far nothing has happened to force that change all right orlowski so much to unpack. What are you thinking. Yeah okay first of all. Mike t i'll get you a q. Tip no one is sitting. You're saying you shouldn't draft a quarterback. Everyone is setting. You can talk to the quarterback that you have about doing so second of all book. I love you your sitting. I don't judge the player but you think the accuracy is going to get better when we've got humans like you trying to rip our faces off like the accuracy should be a really strong point. Not as i get not judging the player but that shouldn't be the the the takeaway men jordan love is still inaccurate. When we're in t shirts and shorts and graziano. I know he's your summer vacation. Buddy brian goodwin coups but at the end of the day. I can gary if you asked him this question. Do if you could go back in time and rethink that decision. If you could go sit there with the glass of wine and listen to share and go if i could turn back time pick. I promise you he would go. No i would not have selected jordan love in the first round if i knew it was going to lead us to this today. I mean the guy is leaves in. He shows up an hour after the show starts and now he's bring nonsense. I mean i don't know what the deal is with brian. Gouda but if you go back and look at your best friends pick. You had a thirty six year old quarterback coming homeboys his worst. qbr seasons. And you're thinking about what happens when he leaves. I don't think that's necessarily bad. Gm and you don't have to be a friend. I don't know brian gouda 'cause i've talked to him a couple of times. You don't have to be a friend of that. Does not the wrong way to run your franchise. I have to take a break on that thought to share song. He should've been singing. Is i got you babe with aaron rodgers. It's as simple as that all right. We'll take a break. He got while lamar jackson's offense should look very different this year. We'll make them legit super bowl contenders. That's on the way. And then is notre dame's road to the college football playoff about to get a whole lot easier. Heather paul here huge news from college football on the way get up on. Espn no matter what you want to protect. Nobody has more experience helping. Keep it safe than adt with adt you get the most burglar alarm event in the industry. Adt is help save more lives than any other home security provider the best home security system of twenty twenty says us news. The number one smart home security provider says strategy analytics twenty twenty twenty four seven peace of mind from the creators of the home security category over twenty thousand employees experienced helping. Keep you safe experience matters. That's why millions of people trust. Adt to protect what matters most and keep them safe get all the latest security upgrades from the largest name and home security visit. Adt dot com. Today adt stands for quality and timeless protection planet. Earth get up is brought to you by our friends at whole foods market. And i take you back to monday. Dan orlovsky and i played in this charity event We played golf in my wife. Posted that picture and everyone in the world and burger. I'll bring you as well pointed out. Just how small. I look in that picture am i was standing. Did you notice was outstanding in a hold. You look like my dad taking me like an under starting pitcher in little league today. That much taller than me and this picture because on that much taller than you in real life gurney knows the reality so many people on social media man. I did not know. Orlowski was giant. And i'm like guys i. I played quarterback in the nfl for dozen years. I'm not like you know a small person in any capacity. No no no no. There's no way in the world representation of the difference in our height. Go ahead bugger. So it's amazing what we can look at a picture. Determine y'all notice the size. I noticed the way. The dan alaska's hat accentuates the size of his ears. That's the first thing that stands out to the pitcher. Great hat nice travis. Matthew had but look at the ears own boston. Oh my goodness all right got better than you know. What's interesting is those ears played pretty good that day and those ears would what you on a golf course. Oh okay here we go all right here. We go let me try fishing. We keep getting me behind getting yelled at by our producer. Allie he would go grazziano. Let's do overreactions on this wednesday. I'll give you a statement. You tell me if. It's an overreaction or not. The buccaneers are going to be better this year than they were last year. Is that an overreact. It's not an overreaction. We've been over this on the show before. There are a lot of things that could show up and get in their way. They were exceptionally healthy last year. That doesn't necessarily repeat itself year to year but yes in june on. Paper buccaneers are set up to be even better than they were last here with a full offseason and with everybody back from a super bowl team next the titans are going to the super bowl or at least are good enough to with julio jones. Is that an overreaction think. It's an overreaction until we see significant improvement from their defense. We've talked about the cowboys. Deepens with tennessee's defense was horrendous last year in terms of getting pressure on opposing quarterbacks. They have to be better at that. They're not going to be able to outscore everybody just because they got julio jones to go with aj brown and derrick henry although that does sound pretty good one more. Lamar jackson is going to return to. Mvp form this season. Is that an overreaction. I say no. This is not an overreaction lamar jackson and the baltimore ravens were one of the teams where we saw the effect of the lack of an off season last year and the reduced training camp at the end of the season. They were playing great. And i think that's the potential is still in them. They need the off season to get the advancements that changes they wanna make on the offense in place and they didn't have that opportunity last year. I think you're going to see great things from baltimore and lamar jackson this year. I'm with you and the changes you're talking about. Include at least if you listen to what they're saying a lot more of the march action plan from under center dan. Now you've put together some tape. What are we thinking. Don't do that in the mark jackson in this offense should major in the pistol one because he could every want when they live in that situation. Throw the ball down the field. Who came back side. Guard's going to pull this big to his less. But i love is how quickly he's able to get this fake get. The defense and flip is is okay. That is your left that if you're under center it's gonna take long now can find the corner at the bottom of the screen to launch this pylons throw downfield you can still dial up your plaques shuts down the field. The second one is going to be a little hard ball quicker play action. Fake double seams motion hold the flat defender now. The mars going to fake to his right in this pistol formation behind him. He never takes his eyes off the defense. You can still wanna play action. Pass in allow your quarterback to see those linebackers balkans comes out quickly down the seem especially down the red zone area touchdown baltimore and then you can still dial up. The quarterback runs seven guys for the defense. Six guys blocking the offense. Is your traditional run under center. One guy's going to be leftover unblocked. Now you can put them. In a line of scrimmage to firm amar jackson if that bud dupree that defender flows down lamar can take the ball on the edge for an eighteen. Yard gain greedy. If you put lamar jackson under center you're gonna use way less quarterback run if you put them under center that i play fake. It's to take longer. He's gotta keep his eyes away from the defense longer. If you put them under center that play action fake to the right you have to turn your head. You can't see it so you're naturally going to take longer doesn't happen as fast so in the last three years. The mar- jackson twenty five touchdowns and three interceptions living in the pistol. I don't like the fact that the ravens won. Put him under center more. I like the fact that they're one of the few teams that can live in the pistol instill be dominant on offense as a defender book. What do you think well well Down makes a lot of great points but he doesn't take it to the next level. You're right the last three years. He's done a lot of great things. But what we keep saying at the end of every season. Lamar jackson has got to get better passing. Game has got to get better and what they're really saying. Is they have to find more. Define reads for this young quarterback and that's what the play action pass game will do greenie. I like him under center. What do we talk about being really quarterback friendly cows shanahan. They play under center a lot. When when you talk about leflore with the jets they're gonna play onto a center a lot. The reason being as a defender when a quarterback turns his back and reaches debt ball out the linebackers to safety. If you're done into bucks everybody has got to step up and the reach. Become more defined. There's more lean. And what does a quarterback who's highly inaccurate. Most of the time he needs he needs more room to throw the football. So dan you're right. The pistol has been good. But how do you make a good quarterback great you give him more room to throw a football. You take a quarterback whose highly inaccurate and give them more room. That will help him. So i like what they're doing. You gotta take the next step because the last three season. We're saying the same thing passing game gotta get better. Quarterbacks got get better they got to do something different. Big guy we got. This is just for the fifth time. Today i'm out of time in a conversation that everyone is dying and continuing hand lower left him has seven rings. He's looking for eight. Why that could soon get a whole lot harder. Huge news from college football will break it down. And how far can joel embiid carry. The sixers can donovan mitchell. Be the best player on a championship team. Those are the questions and guess who has the answer jalen rose. He joins us live next. Don't miss it get up on. Espn do you own or rent your home. Sure you do. And i bet it can be hard work you know. It's easy bundling policies with geico. Geico makes it easy to bundle your homeowner's or renter's insurance along with your auto policy. It's a good thing too because you already have so much to do around your home. Go to geico dot com data quote and see how much you could save. Its gyco easy. Visit geico dot com today. That's geiko dot com. We are back at after florida. State's win last night the college softball world series continues tonight game seven eastern here on espn streaming live on the espn app. Florida state. Where the chance to win the national championship. You can watch that action tonight. Meanwhile the action of yesterday in the nba. It began before the games began. Coli yokich announced as the first senator. Win the league's mvp award since shaquille o'neal in two thousand and put together one of the best offensive years ever averaging more than twenty six points nearly eleven boards more than eight assists. Joel embiid finished second. The end of the action last night in the west rudy gobert with this spectacular. Block on marcus morris in the final second the jazz. Hold off the clippers to win by three in game. One led by donovan. Mitchell who scored forty five game two tomorrow on espn game. Two philly was last night. Joel embiid playing with a torn meniscus in his right knee carrying the sixers with forty points to a sixteen point win in a game that was much closer than that series now tied at one game. Three is friday night and with that. Let's talk about it with the star of jalen and jacoby that one the only jalen rose so jalen. Let's talk about what joel embiid is doing when he feels like this is what we've been waiting for his entire career when he plays like that one. Can his team be just great to watch. Players mature aunt life sports in particular as a professional can humble you. You remember kawhi leonard historic shot against the philadelphia. Seventy six and the shots. Joel embiid walking off the floor crying last year in the playoffs. The boston celtics swept philadelphia out of the playoff his. Gm initially is gone. Trust in the process sam hinkie. His coat passed coast. Brett brown is gone. Trust in the process. You bring in. Daryl morey you bring in doc rivers now joel. Embiid is not focused. Being trowell embiid on social media. He's focused on being a dominant big in the nba. That's why voted him second in the mvp race and one of my favorite plays of yesterday's game and by the way the joker deservedly so won mvp voted for him. I but joel is the most physically imposing big man with skill in the league. And when he's going through click appello like he was in that game just dunking on him and he's up playing pick and roll defence. A lot better at philadelphia was a lot. More active with ben simmons and guarding trae. Young they look like a team. That can legitimately win. The eastern conference win the eastern conference. That was going to be my question to you. Which of these two sixers hawks. And they're even at one. I don't want to put the nets past milwaukee yet. But let's just live in a world where they're going to someone's going to play them in the final which one is a better chance to beat the nets. We'll we'll say. Hawks have already outplayed expectations. Not many people feel like they'll make it to the second round. Trae young has made a name for himself on a superstar level. So let's talk about the philadelphia seventy sixers who had to watch the raptors andy heat win the east and so i do believe especially of james hartness hobble. Jeff green is hobbled that the philadelphia seventy sixers are complete basketball team. You saw joel could get it in the post. So he can shoot the three. Big thighbone lockdown defenders as i mentioned shake. Milton and curry is giving them shooting on the perimeter and so they are now become a complete basketball team. You put james harden back with the nets and he's healthy. All bets are off after they'll win. These but of james harden is a little hobble. An object green is a hobble philadelphia. Seventy sixers legitimately put themselves in the position to possibly win the east. Okay i like our so. That's the east now. Let's go to the west donovan mitchell. Forty five at night spectacular. He's right now the best player on the best team in the nba. Is he jalen. Rose good enough to be the best player on a team that wins the nba championship spider. Man spider man does whatever a spider can am. I showing my age. When i seen that song green. I think so. How about the fact that the answer to your question is absolutely yes and to be terrific. All star level regular season player yet elevated in the playoffs is phenomenal. We scott we saw him in jamal. Murray have a classic battle last year. Were donovan mitchell. Mitchell have fifty seven points and now we see him in the playoffs elevating his game and the reason why greedy is because the guys unstoppable where he's playing with with speed and he's playing with force and so all of a sudden we see he could finish out the hoop dunk. Duncan people be only six two but his ability to shoot the three and playmate for others and be selfish like he was fifteenth in the mvp race. Fifteenth on a team. That had the number one record in the western conference but once the playoffs come he elevates himself and also i think adding dwayne way to ownership by the utah jazz genius. Move for a couple of reasons number one his basketball intellect and he's gonna bring to the table on and off the floor. The second thing is to continue to nurture his relationship with donovan mitchell. Because if you're the utah jazz you don't want to mitchell even and it's really important. Somebody like the way way. Has that relationship with him that you hope that you could keep them a utah for very long time absolutely to quote. The great jalen rose donovan. Mitchell may be young but he's ready. maybe somebody's read. I always regret doing it. But it's fun. The great chelan. Rose jalen and jacoby this afternoon we will see you. Thank you my man. Meanwhile let me run the basis. I got baseball begin to Was so packed this morning. Shohei ohtani that. That's the longest home run of his career. A four hundred seventy foot shot his seventeen th hormone of the season angels. Read the royals. Eight to one elsewhere. Minnesota gary sanchez. Miguel landa heart pumping and then nine yankees. Meet the twins eight to four snapping a four game losing streak yanks won despite going for fifteen with runners in scoring position. That was when they needed. But it was not all good for the yankees yesterday there as garrett cole struggling in his last start and then last night struggling to give an answer when asked about baseball's crackdown on pitcher friendly foreign substances. Cole was asked whether he ever used a particular sticky paste called spider attack. While on the mound and this was his response. I don't i don't know i always know quite i don't want to answer that. To be honest in deir our customs and practices that have been passed down from older players. Not your players from the last generation of players to this generation of players. And i think there are some things that are certainly outbound in that regard. So if he wants to legislate some more stuff. Best compensation the region because ultimately recently poignancy introduction are. Let's get into this with buster olney so buster. We hear one of the biggest stars in the sport talking and sounding very uncomfortable doing it. What was the reaction. You heard across baseball yesterday. Look the question is fair. They're going to be more questions. Asked of other pitchers. But let's keep this in proper context. Everybody in the sport has known for decades that there's been a use of foreign substances. That pitchers have put sunscreen or pine tar or now spider tax or some other super glue adhesive. That's been going on with every team in baseball and everybody on the field new at the players. The managers people in front offices new at people central baseball knew it but because offensive numbers are down right now and because position players have been upset about the fact that pitchers so dominant. That's why we're having chain. Midseason it just so happens that the elite guys garrett cole trevor bauer are going to be the ones who are going to answer the questions understood now. Here's a comparison that will make fully acknowledging ahead of time that the acts themselves are completely dissimilar but a generation ago we were talking about steroids. We were talking about a rule that was on the books but was not enforced that everyone was breaking invite flagrantly violating and impacted the numbers. How similar is this situation again. Acknowledging that there was nothing similar in the acts of using steroids versus putting something on your fingers. I think there are direct parallels to this situation what happened with steroids and direct parallels. What happened with garrett cole. Yesterday look who gets the most scrutiny every year when we talk about the hall of fame and pd's barry bonds and roger clemens because they were the best players of their era. So now the best players of this era of the best pitchers garrett cole trevor. Bauer others are going to have to answer the questions. It just like change was driven by the clean players in two thousand two thousand and one to get baseball into an era of drug testing right now. The position players like they're having money taken out of their pockets. Who are driving midseason change to have these checks pitchers as we go through the rest of the year again so to be very clear and concise as we can't what happens now. Watching baseball fans expecting to happen next the expectation is that later this week. Memos go out to all teams and then at that point major league. Baseball will tell umpires to do something they haven't been doing. And that is to enforce the rule. That's on the books on foreign substances. I've been told that the expectation is that they'll be eight to ten checks pitchers per game. Maybe a couple of times starting pitchers and their aims to not affect pace of play is a check pitchers as they come off the field and let's face it major league. Baseball would love for pitchers just to be scared going forward. And then they don't wind up having to spend a lot of pitchers. Let's see we're all this one's going buster only with the latest. We'll keep a close thanks. Buster meanwhile are wednesday night. Baseball game has the royals anaheim to take on. Otani and the angels final game of a three-game set coverage of started nine thirty eastern That's tonight here on. Espn coming up. Is notre dame's road to the college football playoff about to get a whole lot easier. Heatherton paul with huge news from college football. But i how about this huge question. Think-i hembo for zenana. Mano a mano. Who was the only player to rush for twelve hundred yards in a season. Mike mccarthy graziano looks like he knows it does not so sure. We'll find out stuff warning walking outside lines. The emmy and peabody award winning show tackles the most important issues in sports. 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Who was the only player to rush for. Twelve hundred yards in a season under mike mccarthy. Sometimes i make good educated guesses and sometimes i just happen to know like if i was. Researching ezekiel elliot. What he could accomplish under. Mike mccarthy i may have stumbled on ryan grant in two thousand nine as the answer of the only running back or the last running back to do that is correct. He did it twice in two thousand and two thousand what we deal with instead of the gronk spike the garage. Spike twenty four twenty one lead is field goal once again down goes hambro. Well played by dan graziano. Okay let me go to college football. Because this is huge news. Huge a subcommittee is expected to present a report. Next week examining the strengths and weaknesses of the fourteen playoff including models for expansion. All this was part of a huge story that heather worked on and was host to espn dot com yesterday. And so they're good enough to come back with us here this morning after. We didn't nearly enough time for this conversation that i wanted earlier. Paul finebaum booger mcfarland and dan. Orlovsky is well heather for for those who are just joining us here. Fill in the blanks. What is really important about these meetings. And what could come from them. What's really important is that they could walk out of chicago agreeing on a certain number of teams for the future of the playoff field. It could be eight. Could be ten. It could be twelve. Twelve is gaining a lot of traction at has been talked about over the past month or so. But i can tell you this. I've talked to jack's warwick and bob dole's be two members of that foreperson group. They don't even know what's going to happen. They've been working on this for over two years. Okay two years and this is the first time they are going to sit together in person around and hash out those details if they come to a consensus that is the first step in changing the playoff. The next step comes a few days later. The following tuesday. When they present it to presidents and chancellors if the presidents and chancellors light like it give him the green light. They say go work on it this summer. And before you know it in september we could have an actual consensus and a news. Release saying it's going to expand and win so in the next three months we could be living in a world where the college football playoff expands from four. Maybe all the way to twelve a dan. Orlovsky you are not with us on the program today when we first brought this up. So i'll give you the first word as a former player yourself now. You broadcast the games for us to. You're still very close and connected to the game if they go to twelve teams or anything more than four. What would your reaction be. It's about time and i absolutely love it. This is what college football needs. the college. Football playoff is great but it's had its negative impacts one. If you're not in the college football playoff the national perception is that you stink as a college football team. That's not a reality to if you're not in the college football playoff in those four teams as a player. That's going to get drafted relatively early. You sit there and you know what. I'm not gonna play in my bowl game so a lot of those other really really awesome bowl games have been diminished because of three. I think this helps recruiting for teams. That aren't alabama clemson and ohio state. Because now you can sell recruits on. Hey you can come to our school and still have the opportunity to go play the biggest college football game there is. Which is the national title game. It's gonna give more opportunity. So i love it. I think it's going to help all bowl games and it's gonna make sure that there's a better national perception for so many different college football programs. That deserve it. I know we're booger is going to go so before we get to that. Let me start with paul because a question. I didn't get to ask you earlier paul. There's probably no better place in america to get a finger on the pulse of what college football fans are feeling. I mean this sincerely than the colours on your show. After heather's report went out yesterday. What were you hearing. They hate it and they will forever. And why why did they hate it in in where i do my most of my work because the sec. His already had tremendous success. If you're an alabama fan Does this mean you're. Jv team gets to make it as well because that's really about how they anything's greedy. That's not the point though Whether whether the audience likes it or not it is going to happen. And dan orlovsky just said the most important thing you open the door you give access in greening. We had this conversation the day after the. Cfp if you're if you if you are not in the playoffs right now. You can not recruit against alabama clemson oklahoma ohio state and and georgia and the big guns. This is the only ticket in and without it. We keep seeing the same three or four every year in college. Football simply goes the way of the dinosaur mother. Your thoughts. well. You know. Exactly how the i i think. Four is tough for his heart and it should be hard. I think the people that want expand the college football playoff thinking about everything except the football on the trio. You want be inclusive. Let's include more team understand if we include all those teams include going to have any any chance whatsoever winning national championship realistically no. They're not because. I still about the haves and have not so you can put sixteen in there. It's still going to be about alabama clemson house. St georgia the teams. It's going to be about those teams regardless of the number of schools that you put in there and isn't this supposed to be about the kids. Are we not concerned what. How many gains these kids play. Let's just making sixty four like march madness and play twenty college football games because we don't give a rat's you know what about these kids. It's an amateur sport. Paul and i continue to say that until they give these kids in actual paycheck. Every two weeks like you and i make. It's an amateur sports. So i don't want to hear about all these different things that they're doing to subsidize. It's still an amateur sport in the college. Football playoff is supposed to be hard. I was told i was told on. This is going back to two thousand fourteen when this college football playoff starting that it would meet this way for ten years and until it changes. I'm still going to believe what i was told a long time ago. I don't think he's going to go to more than four. I hope it doesn't go to more than four. And for the for the people that want to be inclusive. Danna orlovsky understand this be better. Have your team be better. If you wanna be included in the playoff. Just be better. I don't really get destroying this. Gonna run out of time again. Dan real quickly. Yeah go booger you just went on a rant about being kids do sometimes they have off dates. Okay sometimes twenty year olds. Don't show up on saturday morning. And so they should be penalized because they were great for eleven weeks and one week. Didn't show up. My mind goes back to last year and texas a and m. Who lost one football game to the team that dominated the national championship. You mean to tell me that. They're not good enough to get another chance at them or go back to last year with oklahoma quarterback spencer rattler at the beginning of the season that he was a young quarterback that struggled early on and then at the end of the year. All of a sudden is playing. This isn't about like giving somebody the opportunity to get in. This is about having more teams with a bigger body of work with the opportunity to grow to the season and go up. Promise you no one wanted to play oklahoma. At the end of the year. Last year we spent a rattler. Okay so like you can't sit there and go over just giving away in. I gotta get back in here. Got to go out to to both of your points. One thing those people will consider in that meeting guys remember the pac twelve champion oregon finished number twenty five last year if you are doing automatic qualifiers and you are guaranteeing. Your conference champions a spa last year. The twenty-fifth team in the country would have been in the playoff. Those people have to consider that. And if oregon's in the playoff there are four top ten teams left out right so you have to consider all of those and what guaranteeing a conference champion actually means in all of these scenarios. I don't care if it's eight ten or twelve. You're leaving somebody out. Can i ask one more question here. We can do this for seven hours some time. But but heather eight is easier of ten and twelve. Now we're talking about we're talking about what really sounds very much like a playoff system like like a professional style playoff system. Because you can't even. I can figure out you can't divide those as easily eight correct but if you ha- if you have twelve then you at least have more opportunities to include one group of five champion and more at large. That could be more agreeable to some of those people in that room simply because there's more access but again it's the appearance of fairness because i think it was bugger. Who said whoever's wants to put everybody you know what. Let's just put everybody if if you next year and you can tell your shoes during the playoff. Let's just put everybody in. Here's the hilarious thing. We were worried that we allow the too much time to this conversation. And it turns that we didn't have nearly enough everybody. Thank you for getting up here. We have so we can talk about this thing forever and the good news is we will continue to. Meanwhile the conversation continues on. I take next after joel. Embiid big night. Who's going to win. Sixers hawks kendrick. Max and molly will debate that and more their next five minutes from now on. Espn do you own or rent your home. Sure you do. Fortunately gyco makes it easy to bundle your home and car insurance. It's a good thing too. Because having a home is hard work go to geico dot com. Get a quote and see how much you could save. Geico dot com easy.

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HOUR 2: STEPHEN A LIVE

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"What a lineup. We have coming your way. Starting today. the euro matchup between turkey and italy is this afternoon on. Espn the belgium and russia. Saturday tomasz tomorrow afternoon on. Abc game three of the western conference. Semis routine the jazz. And the clippers is eight thirty eastern and then we cap saturday night with you have to sixty three on. Espn plus pay per view. What a lineup. This weekend coming your way. Aaron rodgers will be at the lake house. Mike pat about will be in vermont with me booker. i think is at the scene of a lunar eclipse. She was going to be rocking up. Enough people want to see random people get into a ring and fight each other. How many rounds could you go with chad johnson. Hero unless you wanna fight green or we could just a battle it out over chessboard. I we sent the text last night and we wanted to go live on the practice field. And i said it's from mike greenberg. Greenberg is also an executive and the tampa organization. Maybe that's mike greenberg. They thought you were talking about people on saturday night around eleven pm and i hit on black eleven. That's julio something's up on. Which was the bet on black eleven. Read thank you got to moebius laughing. Giving them a stray. Thank you if you're on that team and you're a leader. What are you saying the fun. Why are you that much taller than me in this picture because on that much star than you in real life. Y'all notice the size but look at the ears owner of last the. Oh my does news those ears. Would what on a golf with coach. I played golf with them. Both i won't get in the middle of all of it. I will say is not nearly as much taller than me as that picture would appear one way or another. It's been a fun week and we thank you every single time you choose to start your day by getting up with us here. We are very busy on this friday morning. Coming to you. As always live from above heineken river decade pier seventeen. I am greenie. Jam packed with basketball highlights. Nfl conversation college football news as well. Let's go relevant menu. Howard two was assigned to get up with milwaukee's best bucks. That's good to the final shot. We've got you covered right off the top and stephen as on the way in this hour then the very best advice you will hear for how to solve the puzzle. That is the packers we can do it. And we'll explain exactly how and then college football as we know it on the verge of enormous chain you need all the details and we got them coming your way as we get up with you in this hour starting right now with the game of the night in the nba bucks nets in milwaukee janas and company humiliated in the first two games but he was much better last night in a defensive struggle. Pick it up on the fourth tied at seventy four. Yes thirty three bucks up to just over to play tied seventy eight. Chris middleton also sensational last night. Thirty five points. Fifteen boards buck and a half tied at eighty kevin durant bruce brown back to durant durant added going thirty points eleven rebounds and that's a three point lead that's been fifteen seconds to go blocks down by one desperately needing a basket to keep their season alive while drew holiday. This spin move. He had just nine. But that's the biggest flex plus of the season. They're fired up outside now next on the other end well that sloppy they almost lose it gonna wind up in the hands of brown. He's gonna wind up with a mad dash to the whole. It's not even close. So there's a rebound there's foul shots and they're good and so it's a three point milwaukee league with two seconds left. And where are we going. We're going to katy. And that's the mask. Look they could manage. It's no good and the bucks survived the fight another meaningful day. Eighty six eighty three is your final with and chris. Middleton combining scored sixty eight of the eighty six points last night at seventy nine percent that has the highest percentage of a team's points scored in a playoff game by any duo in nba history. And i bring back. Pj and big perk this morning for some more conversation jail. I'll start with you quickly. Because i had leg laurent here about a half hour ago. And he was talking about the way. The game was officiated. Really favoring milwaukee last night they were able to be physical on the perimeter and that went a long way toward slowing down. Brooklyn's offense attack. What is your expectation for that. What's the adjustments. You make their if you're the nets to a game four where you just got kind of physically manhandled ninety style in game three. Well i agree. What legs were saying. They got involve some other people for sure. But i think the game's going to be physical Mike budenholzer has to love his defense because they got ended. Three point shooters for a change. They were aggressive physically even the last shot of the game. He said they just did a much better job. Defending we thought the three point line was going to be the key but guys are fighting over. The top. Picks guys are bumping him. I i agree with them. That's the way it was officiated. But it was consistent p. j. tucker knows what his job is. His job is to get into katie making his tough as he can see the last plate right there. He's bumping him pretty good. Let's playoff basketball Perk loves that. That's pretty good defense right there. That's what playoff basketball used to look like. It hasn't always looked like that. Eighty six eighty three is usually the end of the third quarter last night. That game is over. So big perk. Let's pick it up on the brooklyn side of that k. d. showed up last night. Hardness hurt kyrie irving a very rough night. What what's your reaction to that game that he had last night it was so form holiday was hugging him like a cheap suit all night long. He was not giving him no ass base. He was up into him. And that's what you gotta do. The thing i love and respect by jew holiday is then. He's not afraid of embarrassment. Grainy he's not afraid to get his ankles broke. He's not afraid to get on the highlight film. He got into his job was to get into car rear-view. Make your mum comfortable. I thought they did a great job. In the pick and roll jrue holiday was phenomenon. Defense event the way that he was scrappy and brook lopez coast. Pj boarded up. He did an excellent job of protecting the basket six blocks but he altered so many sites. And that's what you have to do. You have to go out there and hang your hat on the defensive business side of things and then big perk best of the week that we showed a moment ago. We showed you you know. Completely justifiably been critical of the performance of jaanus onto compo- in game two. So what do we say about the bounceback. What would you like to say about janas and middleton the way. Those two guys bounced back and played huge last night after being humiliated. What did they show you big part this about them time. Look grainy this is why they get paid the big bucks okay. I shouldn't have to come over here. Nobody shouldn't have to criticize them. They should want to step up perform. This is when the lights hit the ice you. You're going against kyrie. Irving kevin durant no wants to give you motivation. This is who you are especially guys you two time. Mvp you deep as a player of the year. His legacy was on the line last night because if he would've lost that game last night grainy i promise you. I didn't want to hear nothing about honest after the coupons for the rest of his career i promise you all right so think performance. That meant a lot now. Pj let me come to you. How do we see this series big picture. Because no harden he's played forty three seconds in the series and the nets are basically three points away from being up three games to none. So we're is this series of your mind right now. Going to a game. Four sunday in milwaukee one day at at a time. I mean when you're down to you don't look ahead greeny and say we gotta win four out of five. We just say let's win one survive and let's go again. It's a huge game now for this team. James harden would make an enormous difference. It becomes back as with jeff. Green jeff green forgotten man. He was a really important piece for the nets. All year I liked the box. But they're going to need a lot more offense. I did not think they could win. With eighty six eighty six last game and got beat by almost fifty points Eighty-six wins when you hold the nets twenty five percent shooting eight hundred thirty two from the three. They had like thirty. Three's in the first two game so the defense was there. Chris middleton and janas needs some offense of help. There's no question about that. Chris was three for six the rest of his teammates with three for twenty five from downtown going to need some freeze and they're going to need a lot more points than eighty six to beat the nets on sunday. But they're playing at home. They're playing with a ton more confidence. They just need a little bit more help. It can't be just johnson. Chris a two man show again and then the third man of course in brooklyn continues to be hard and we mentioned it. They're big do they need him. Will the brooklyn nets need james harden in this series to win it. No i don't. I don't believe so because kevin durant is just as special k and kyrie irving we already know. Put up a forty piece of in any given night that they will all right. There in itself is the best duo in the league and they can overcome whatever the milwaukee bucks but are with them and they could do it on a consistent basis. When you talk about kevin durant look these that he that he's making in taking they all contested pizza. Tuck is hug japan leg and still getting these shots off and making them goes to show you that he's the greatest score elder to touch the basketball graining. And when you have this guy right here this special talent and kevin durant playing at a high level. Look you can win any series greenie. Look so you're coast pj. I'm a little disappointed in right now. You know that. Because yada yada recognized that i say his last name and i got it right on the first try just thrown by hugging him like a pair of leggings additives sort of threw me off for the remainder of the morning. Guys you're the best. Pj and perk enjoy the hoops. We'll see you guys on monday. Thank you very much. We go back to the nfl. Where the news. From the state of wisconsin. This week was crazy. Have the basketball. You got all this here going on yesterday. Marking the final day of the green bay packers mandatory minicamp one that aaron rodgers of course did not attend. This of course meant that jordan. Love got as many as he could possibly handle. Is the number one quarterback there so there's always good news and bad news and here's rob demovsky. Who covers all the news for us as always from packers came so now that there's little mini camp is wrapped up route. Put in perspective for us what happened. What were the most important things as you see it to come out of this week. You mentioned it right off the top greenie all the work. That jordan love. I'm not going to bore you with a ton of numbers. But i'll give you a couple. Yesterday's final practice had thirty one snaps of eleven on eleven jordan. Love took twenty six of those throughout the three day camp. He threw seventy passes over three days last summer and training camp greenie which was about three weeks long. You only through sixty four passes the whole time. He's through more passes in three days than he did in three weeks last summer and we asked him what else he was working he said. I'm trying to become more vocal. That's a part of my game that i'm trying to approve on and be able to take charge and command these guys in the huddle. They gave him every opportunity and then some to do that. Over these three days i look the reality of it is for him to try and take some sort of leadership role with the aaron rodgers thing hanging over them. It's an unrealistic expectation. I think for anyone in that circumstance. So rob now we spend it forward. What's next what are the most important things that happen as we go forward from here. Well it's conversations and communication with aaron rodgers between now and the start of training camp which is on or about july twenty seventh. They have to take these six weeks when normally everybody in the nfl shuts down and goes on vacation. Packers have to work mark murphy. Brian coots matt lafleur after two. Whatever they think is necessary to try to smooth things over with aaron rodgers and as we've talked all spring greenie. We don't even really know what that's going to take. Or if there is anything the last i heard from anyone close to rogers is that he is still dug in and has not changed his stance on anything but these next six weeks between now and training camp will change that if there is a way to change it. It's going to happen in those six weeks. All right rob demovsky outstanding work. Thank you very much. have a good weekend. My family bring our football crew back in for those of you just joining us. Your jam packed today. Jeremy fowler bart scott. Louis riddick bart. They're going to go and they're going to try and make things work which i get but we all know aaron to whatever degree we know him. He seems can kind of person that when he's dug in it's very hard to get him to on dig or whatever the opposite of that is so what does your do you think that they can do. Do you think aaron rodgers can be convinced to come back and play for this team. This season bart you have to be honest with them greeny. You have to do something that you haven't done. You have to be transparent and honest. Got say listen. The fact is we can't first of all afford to take the campaign and trade right. It's going to kill us. we're gonna have nothing to show for it. Secondly joy love isn't ready now. Listen what we can do is in august. Like i've been saying the compromise. Is you come back and play. Give us one more year. They gives the opportunity to be able to win super bowl. And then we'll do what you wish. At the end of the season you hope it to get him into building getting locked in that maybe just maybe you can change his mind over the course of the year. If you change your ways and you're more transparent with 'em when entire year if not i think he sits out like carson palmer or i'm a detroit lions fan. Grainy i remembered when bernie sanders wanted to be traded. They decided not to trade and they held their ground embarrassed sanders retired. Aaron rodgers will take it that far but if he's demand that we here he is he you know he knows some say. He's cut family members all maybe he might be willing to do that and go host jeopardy and try and compete with pat pat. Say jack for the number one show on tv. Look i mean he has options to be real here that almost no other current athletes have and that's one of them so lewis i come to you. What concessions are you willing to make him. If you're the from your murphy in good at those guys what are you willing to offer him to say. Tangible things to come back. I think the only thing really that you can offer him. That's tangible at this. Point is of restructure of his contract to the point. Where there you know. There's more money guaranteed to him. And that really kinda like that's really the only thing you can offer them at this point other than the fact that look i mean what does he does he want. Brian good against leave. Does he want mark murphy to leave. Does he want to run. The fr- personnel department. Does you want to bring back. Some of his old buddies. From the i don. I don't know what tangible you can do. Because these are all these all seem like they're procedural personal relationship type of things that have accumulated over the years that have served to make him you know put him in the mindset that he's in right now and that has made him sour on his time there in green bay it seems like the accumulation of things. It's not necessarily about an least unless there's something that he hasn't. It doesn't seem to be about just money. It seems to be about procedural relationship type of things so i don't know how you can necessarily throw something at him that will just kinda calm him down and then say look. I'm gonna come in here now. And now i'm going to play and so from the packers at this point again. I keep saying this. And i said this yesterday. I don't think i'm doing very much at all right now. I would assume that they've had a lot of these conversations already. They brainstormed about this already. I'm putting the ball squarely in his court and say you really want to retire. You really wanna start accumulating these fines and give up this kind of money and take this kind of financial hit to go ahead and host jeopardy to go ahead and prove your point. I would say what we're just going to sit here and stare at each other then. And i'm we're going to evaluate gordon love. That's what i would do. It could come to that and it probably makes as much sense as anything else. They could do. Jeremy super quickly. What is the league expect to happen. Well they expect for the packers potato. Wait this out. Because to lewis's point he's probably not going to retire but if he does the packers don't need to do anything they can sit there and wait if they trade him eventually that just involve draft picks in the future. So they're going to try to work on the contract. I was smooth this out but they have six weeks to figure it out and they know. Rogers has not gone nuclear yet. No formal hard trade requests. They think they're still wiggle room. Okay fair enough. He has not gone nuclear yet. I think that's an important point and take a quick break on that thought. We'll continue with much more in a moment here including they seem to play for a national championship every year. Why the road to a tidal might be a little tougher for the crimson tide very soon. That's on the way. Plus despite k d's best efforts that's lose last night. The stephen think the nets need james harden to beat the bucks. He'll answer that question as he's live with us on. Espn no matter what you want to protect. Nobody has more experience helping. Keep it safe than adt with adt you get the most burglar alarm event in the industry. 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Like coastal carolina in indiana and iowa state would have all had a chance to play in this here. The four highest ranked conference champions would receive first round byes which would include oklahoma. Who didn't even make the off a year ago. And so here is heather who has been working this story extraordinarily well paul finebaum within sight and wanted to bring lewis in for quick thought on this as well but had the. Let's start with you here. What is driving this. I've heard for so long. That i felt like most of the people who made the decisions in college football wanted to keep it to four teams. What is driving this sudden. Jump from four all the way to twelve. Well i think two main things at the heart of this decision to consider twelve teams is more participation. Right but big twelve. Commissioner bob bos. We also said something very revealing yesterday when he said it stinks to be left out. Basically we as eight five commissioners. You know didn't really realize what that would feel like going into a four team playoff and they were left out the first year. Remember with tcu and baylor so the sting of being left out wanting to open it up to more teams. Plus he said volpi said when you get in this system to october november. You're talking about twenty five or thirty teams still in the conversation. Not just a handful. So paul finebaum. I'd let me come to you. Again is one who deals in the sport every single day. What are the who are the biggest winners and losers from this if it does go the way they're currently proposing it gave me up one or several big winners and big losers greenie college football fans or the biggest winner because they have they feel like they're invested now in this process. Where in the past unless you were an alabama clemson ohio state. Maybe in oklahoma fan. You really didn't feel like you belong. You mentioned coastal carolina. The idea that coastal carolina could be in the college football. Playoff to me is a major breakthrough. I think notre dame is the biggest loser so far and that's in part their own fault because they still think they run the world of college football even though they haven't won a championship and about thirty three years. But it's also not fair to notre dame to get left out because they're not in a conference because they could be the best team in the country and still have to have a play in game but but ultimately and this is a cliche that i hate to say but i still think the rich are going to get richer. Who's the rich who's the richest kids on the block. It's the sec. You'll get two maybe three one year. You could even get four. Sec schools in and that will send everybody back to demanding a new system fair and lewis. I wanted to ask you about this from a scouting perspective. Which is the area of this that you'd be. I'm fascinated by the idea that this will mean these teams some of the play sixteen game seasons. It's not inconceivable that a team could wind up playing a seventeen game college season. I just wonder what you think all this will have on the way. Nfl teams evaluate players. I think green really. It's a positive in this sense. In that gives you another opportunity rather maybe numerous opportunities to see best on best. Because that's really what you're looking for always when you're evaluating players you want to see players against the very best competition and you want as much exposure to players playing against the very best competition as you can possibly get so i think from a from an evaluation standpoint from a data collection standpoint in terms of watching tape. It's only going to serve you in a positive way in terms of getting an even clearer more concise picture on who these guys actually are because you're seeing them play and some pressure packed situations now. Obviously with more games comes more of a chance that some of these guys could get hurt and some of these guys could wind up putting more mileage on their bodies that therefore take away from some of their future prospects. Down the road in terms of longevity. But i don't think you know. I don't think that's something that you would be to to concern what i would like it personally. I would love to see these players. Go up against one another in high stakes games late in the season. Especially when you maybe have some guys who are highly graded this. You're truly trying to figure out where to stack them. And you see them against the very best competition. What a lot on the line. Paul finebaum quickly back to you. How about the number of games element of all the kids who are not getting paid. We hear it all the time. Now all of a sudden it goes from twelve games fifteen. Sixteen what what are you hearing from people about that. What's your take on it. Well i think that's why this is happening now. Greenie what was happening this week in congress a hearing on the another one in two weeks. That's going to be reality. You're going to get the austin case in the supreme court. That could make it easier for players to receive more types of of stipends so ultimately i think the powers that be looked at this and say we have to change with the times the players probably still are getting what they think they deserve but they are getting more than they had been getting an and you still can't overcome the fact that it's going to be a very long season it will start in august and it won't end until about january eighteenth. It sounds like the nfl because it's pretty close to being the nfl. Heather take us through all the things we left out. Well i just wanted to hit on that one point. Jack's warwick notre dame's athletic director said yesterday that the likelihood of actually playing seventeen games is very slim. Because what would have to happen is one of the five through twelve teams would have to run the table. They'd have to win their conference championship. They'd have to play in that first round and then run the table so he said that this system was built knowing that it would be slim that they would actually play seventeen games. The only other thing left out they still don't know what the situation will be would look like and it's also important to remember that they wanted to preserve new year's eve and new year's day and really bring it back that's why the semifinals quarterfinals aren't home games okay. So we'll believe that they're really interesting stuff. Heather outstanding work as always much more to come. I see stephen a smith making his way into the studio. He's going to jump in here. We'll talk about basketball with him. Then we'll get to the cowboys. Their i should be good. How many points will dachsie company need to put up for the cowboys to make it. We'll talk about that and more as we walk up on. Espn do you own or rent your home. Sure you do. And i bet it can be hard work you know. It's easy bundling policies with geico. Geico makes it easy to bundle your homeowner's or renter's insurance along with your auto policy. It's a good thing too because you already have so much to do around your home. Go to geico dot com quote and see how much you could save. Its gyco easy visit. Geico dot com today. That's geico dot com. We are back and let's run the floor with the nba playoffs where we start in the west where donovan mitchell would continue his tear dropping thirty seven points helping the jazz take a to nothing series lead with the one seventeen. One eleven win over the clippers. The guard is the first jazz player with at least thirty. Five points in back to back. Playoff games since carl malone and nineteen eighty-eight has got eighty two points in the first two games of the series. They haven't lost a playoff game that he's played in. Meanwhile the bucks got a win last night in the east one. They desperately needed begging advantage of homecourt advantage. Six eighty six eighty three low scoring hard-fought final. Chris middleton and thirty five janas had thirty three they combined for seventy nine percent of the bucks points last night. Kevin durant led the nets with thirty. They're still up two games to one in this anthem. Great stephen a smith is making his way into our studio. What's up it is great. To see you sell your. Your young namesake. Had his high school graduation yesterday. Steve always complements me that we we named our son steven the correct way with the pa correct with the h. Is not what the vs with the. Pa that's what makes us special. That's how i thank you very much. And then i watch this game last night and it looked like we were watching a game from the nineties all of a sudden. We had pat riley's knicks out there with his physical eighty six eighty three game last night. Nets what is the number one. Take away from that night for you. Well the number one take that you know what listen i. I'm being facetious here. Because bruce brown has had a great season and he's doing a lot of good things for the brooklyn nets. I'm just being a little bit emotional here from this perspective. You almost lucky you gotta ride back to the hotel you do not take the shot. You do not honest in it. It was a shop before cabinet. Kevin durant. I'm not talking about that. I'm about what he drove into the lane and took that layup instead of finding kevin durant who had just scored seven straight points. Now i have no idea. Why coach steve. Nash had a play design. Where kyri and bruce brown were there together. Whatever get the ball a k. D. get the poll akari and kyrie's the secondary option was flowing. It's the. I don't give a damn what's going on. You find a way to get kevin durant that basketball theory and that definitely showed is used inexperienced just blasphemy. That's number one number two again. I says the play by the way. That was the last shot before. That right where bruce ramp dropped into the drove into the lane. And secondly and more poli. I'm not overly excited about what i'm seeing from. Milwaukee has really struggled from the perimeter he's been horrid from the free throw line. Last night was another example of that. Chris has showed up big time made a couple of big time. Shots down the stretch. That's what he has to do in order to give you a chance to me. It's nothing to win is a win and that's good and you got yourself the series because it's still to one and they cannot too but what they did last night is not going to cut it. Because you're not holding the brooklyn nets to eighty three points again. That is clearly an aberration. Kyrie irving take a shop for the last woman is a twenty two seconds. If i remember correctly you think that's gonna happen again. I don't think that's gonna happen again. So they look up. They gotta win good for them. I hope they tie because like thrilling series. But i've seen nothing that tells me this is going to be at the really serious. I tried to give some credit to yonathan. Chris middleton saying they were so questioned after game to fully so and then they bounce back and kendrick yelled at me at the beginning of this hour. So what are you talking about. That's what they're paid for this superstars. So what do we say about yoenis and middleton. After their performance last que desiree period did not kadian kharian. There's no shame in that because katie and career. Kyri is the best show in basketball. He is simply box office. Season electrifying talent in the case of k. d. He's the greatest offensive player in the game today and may go down all said and done as top two all time in history in terms of what he brings to the table on the side of the ball. Six eleven with a seventy six wingspan got to handle the mid range game. Long game hits eighty five percent better from the free. Throw line this brothers. there's something special. And we know that. In the case of the milwaukee bucks your highlighting with crime comes to see steph curry and how. He's helped transform the game to see what steve nash did before him and turns to be an point guard at phoenix who was an offensive firepower. Because my dad. Tony system is steve nash. Ability to hit the rim shots damian lillard. How big time. He is because of his ability to hypnotise shots. There simply is no excuse for a player in the nba to go year after year after year. When your primary scoring option and you have no perimeter game what so. I'm looking at yonathan taku. I'm looking at guys like ben simmons. These are incredible talents. Big talents no question about it but come playoff time. You know you can back off of them that they are simply close to no threat whatsoever from beyond fifteen feet at ben simmons case beyond five feet. So it's a problem. And when you know that when you get paid to speak to perk point when you get paid particularly the exorbitant amount of money understand it's not about your paycheck. It's about the fact that that paycheck allows you to be able to concentrate on nothing else. Because you don't have to worry about paying your bills you don't have to worry about making a living you don't have to worry about generations being able to make a living off of the money that you getting all you pay to do is to play and to improve and elevate your game. How in god's name year after year after year those e malady that has plagued game does not change. There's no excuse for that. And that's where you look at a guy like the greek freak and you look at a guy like ben simmons and you say what are you doing. You can't get some kind of perimeter shot. Do you not see the league. And the way it has shifted over the last decade plus you see the direction that we're going in everybody. Mj koby even lebron james. They all improved their perimeter game because they understood the again was flowing. It you gotta know that. Do something about it. And we've seen evidence especially composed. These tom that the greek freak and ben simmons have done that as fair and onto did it a lot last night in the paint and again it was just a very different game. This was not the way basketball. Generally has looked for the last couple of years the way it got played. Well let me ask you a little different way. James harden has played forty three seconds in this series. And that's a bad sign. Because he came back from a hamstring immediately got hurt again if he is not able to give them anything. Do the net still win the championship. I think they still win the east. Let me be very very clear about that. i'm not gonna sit up the and definitively say they beat the utah jazz. Let me be very clear. Wish camera is that right there sir. Donovan mitchell is so super scar. Make no mistake about it. Averaging what is your average like forty one in this series of fifty percent shooting absent over thirty two game for the postseason undefeated with him in the starting lineup. Because he missed game one against the memphis. Grizzlies dropped fifty plus last year a couple of times against the denver nuggets in the first round donovan. Mitchell is d- way to point donovan. Mitchell is a close a donovan. Mitchell is a superstar donovan. Mitchell is out playing both wild linnet and paul george not one or the other both of them and the brothers twenty four gotta jay got ahead got an nba body is straw. Can finish at the basket could take it to the whole could create his own shot hit free growth. There's nothing that brother cannot do in utah already. I want to hear about kololo. I wanna hear about john stockton. That's the best player in the history of the jazz organization right there. I just said it. And i started rent donovan. Mitchell is a superstar. This brother is big time and if he gets a finals and brooklyn nets are not solely loaded. Kin the clippers kid dismissed kawai and paul george what they have the potential to bring. We gotta respect that and todd. Who knows what he's doing as a coach kid. Dismiss them. But i expect them to beat the clippers. I expect them. The beat phoenix or denver phoenix in my opinion in the conference finals. There's a game seven that would be a utah. Utah goes to the finals. And if the brooklyn nets not fully loaded. I can't summarily dismiss utah. I think it would take. James harden kyrie in k. D to knock off the utah jazz. That's how formidable they are. I think that this is fascinating. Pick up on that thought for a minute there because i think a lot of nba fans. Don't see a ton of you. Tom for any number of obvious reason. Just he's six foot. One donovan yeah four. Six three six three and a half six four year. He's not he's not six. He's big in this one is he's sitting lottery that's a that's a lot. He is not six. He is not six. Okay fair of a. I think he's listed. Smaller anyhow looks a little smaller. I mike fratello takes one and when i was standing next to him he looked bigoted. Okay fair enough. Okay go either way. The point of it is this. You think he's ready to be right now best player on an nba championship team. I think he's already the best player probably in the playoffs. Right now kiss. Somebody told me differently. In the six games that donovan mitchell flaky definitively say we've seen somebody better than them. I mean you can throw k. D. in the equation because he's been lethal even though he didn't shoot that well from the field last night. But when i look at donovan mitchell who stopping him listen he had. He struggled a little bit in the first half of game. One against leonard and paul. George would a team. That has the reggie jackson patrick beverley of the world and others. This may came and dropped thirty two in the second half last night. Ten points in the first three minutes of the game he finishes with thirty seven. He's coming everyone knows he's coming you know he's the number one option and there's absolutely positively nothing you seem to be able to do about it other than twists ankle. That's about it. There's nothing else that we have seen. That has been able to stop donovan mitchell. Then when we take that into account understand the guys around him jordan clarkson comes off. The bench gives you buck. It's twenty four last night. What does he do you spell donovan mitchell. So he can get his rest royce. O.'neil big top perimeter defender rudy. Go beer the reigning defensive player of the year right now on the interior so he has helped around to shoot as like bogdonovich and england other god but in the end everybody knows when it's time even though last night there were other people that stepped up in did what they did because they can't do that when it's time the utah jazz like this here you go. Could you take and that's what he does to me. That's what it's all about. When you separate the superstars from everybody else is when everyone knows who's gonna do something when they're gonna do it. How are you going to do it in still can't stop them. That is donovan mitchell. Donovan mitchell is a superstar. He is do real deal. If on part about getting teary eyed in the most Because that dan phil jackson was running the new york knicks. I was on new york radio. Go look at the tapes. I nobody was talking. I said donovan. Mitchell out of louisville and i didn't see this louisville i said donovan mitchell to hell with it and somehow frank meal kinna phil jackson brought to the knicks. No one we can't phil jackson. No wonder we can't find him that that's the problem donovan. Mitchell could have been in new york. Could you imagine if he was in new york. Correct scored eighty two points in the first two games of the series and the jazz are six and oh in the playoffs when he has played. Donovan mitchell superstar. One more very quick take time mistake for one. More real close very quick chris paul reports. Are we going to turn down his option at four forty million dollars or whatever it is. I had the number down before forty four million dollars. He's going to turn it down he's going to take it down. Is there any conceivable chance. He wants three years and eighty something million dollars. Whatever it is. Is there any conceivable chance. Lebron talks him into coming to la playing with him. I think it's conceivable. But i think chris paul wants money. He ate passing up. Forty four million to go someplace else with twelve i know. Cpi three okay in the interest of full disclosure here now executive producer. Why not us on espn and on espn plus a few months ago. I know i've known for years. The chris paul i know pass forty four million to the twelve fifteen twenty thirty no. There's got to be something more for him down there maybe not per year but it better be more money for how about if leon rose gave him a call. It's something. I don't think he'll do that because his family's comfortable in la out west. I don't see that happening. But do i believe is a strong possibility if if the money is there to some degree. You're not talking about him. Taking a huge paker. Do i think there's a possibility he could end up in. La yes but i will tell you. He's very very happy to phoenix very very happy with monty williams and his coaches staff and the sensational job that they've done the young talent that he's been schooling. They're very happy with him. He's very happy with them so it would take a lot for him to leave. But there's one place that could get him. It would be a but that's more so because personal reasons than basketball reasons very best. Stephen is so awesome. Thank you so much. I hate coming up in seventeen minutes. That was a tour to cars and he's got much more to do is just getting warmed up. I take top of the hour much more on the bucks win last night and if we should feel any better about their chances against the nets and is it a good thing that aaron rodgers ms packers stephen with max and molly coming up here on. Espn meanwhile as we continue thought. Julio jones's impressive before wait till you see what he might be now that he is motivated. Your y next cat up on. Espn warning walking outside lights. 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And i said it's from mike greenberg greenberg also an executive and the tampa organization. Maybe that's what mike greenberg. I thought you were talking about table on saturday. Night around eleven. Cf and i hit on eleven. Julio something's up. I'm which was the bet on. Black eleven rain is banking janas gotta slap and giving them stray spankings faintness. So if you're on that team and you're a leader what are you saying been funds. Why are you that much taller than me. And this picture. Because i'm that much taller than you realize during y'all notice the size but look at. Here's owner waspy. Oh my goodness toes ears. What view on a golf quick tries coach. We've had some fun this week. And let's finish it up with this. Julio jones we yesterday got our first glimpse of practicing with the titans and we know that he missed seven games last year with a hamstring injury. He is thirty two and so after practice he was asked about his health and his aide. Here's what he said. Believe me. I know what i have in a tank And we're talking about age thirty two late. I'm young like in football. You say oh but you to do it or you. don't this game. don't change me. I'm still fastened steel strong for those who questioning my health and things like that stay. Stay tuned says. Julio jones can't wait says bart scott. Let's go back to where we were an hour ago. We didn't get to fully dive into this. You have some questions about this acquisition and and how effective it'll be. Why don't think it puts them over to tom. Green yeah i think julio jones is a finnish and peace. He's a player that could've winning some different locations. I don't think this makes them better than baltimore. Kansas city buffalo. I think cleveland is still better than them. I believe it's maybe makes them even with maybe miami. I think he's a guy that yes. He can still produce at high level but he went to a team. That's one dimensional. And they have a way that they're gonna win. That's ground and pound and trying to take shots and protect their defense. But i think this isn't the best location for them. And i don't think this is. I think this is a lateral move. Maybe step corey davis of course but it doesn't make them elite. I don't really has a lot to say about that. Corey davis would have probably been less expensive depending on the circumstances less expensive to keep him there. And so louis we did not get a chance to hear your thoughts on that when we had a little bit earlier this morning. What do you think look. I like the fact that bar clarify what he meant by. Julio jones in corey davis not being on the same level. No disrespect corey davis. I love you had a great season. You got a good contract. Out of new york jets. You ain't julio. Julio has been being called. Julio jones just call them julio for a reason this guy special. He's different him. Aj brown look ryan. Tannehill i don't understand why people keep disrespected my guy ryan tannehill. This guy can shop the football. He can put it down the field deep on any quarterback in the nfl. And if i'm julio jones right now what's more important than just wanna keep setting records. I mean i'm already a legend by and large that. I'm a freak athlete. I'm one of the best wide receivers over the past ten years that this league is ever seen people already know that i want to win games. Now i agree with you part when you say this. He wasn't the guy to put them over the top. I don't think their offense overall is what's going to put them over the top. It's your side of the ball bart. It's the defense side of the ball. That's gonna put them over the top but do pre better come through for the tennessee. Titans the big free agent signing from the pittsburgh steelers health even come to kaitlin betty caleb farley better be healthy. That's the you're right. He better be healthy kayla farley who they drafted. I'd virginia tech. Better be healthy. That's what's going to put them over the top they can get that side of the ball figure it out then maybe they can deal with and shutdown teams like baltimore who we saw. Afc wildcard game on espn monday night. Football booth yeah we. We had that game. We saw what baltimore did to them late in the football game and they couldn't stop him. If defense can get it. Going look offensively. They'll be able to put up points man. I think julio own aj brown as a defensive player myself look in the secondary and it's a shootout and they have to start throwing the football. And i see number eleven and number two and these two guys are coming at me. Look man come on. They did the right thing but who he did. The right thing again but julio's who they always like. Joel embiid man. Do you cannot count on him being healthy. That's not that's not a given down on over. Aj born he's he's played. He's played thirteen games in ten years and being in the nfl. He's thirteen more games every season except two except for two okay. It's seven years gay. You're right about that look. He has saw tissue injury last year. And he's not gonna practice a lot. I don't care if julio ever practices. i don't care you pay in baltimore practice. They didn't pay you a new york the practice they paid you to bust heads on and monday. That's what they paid you for. And that's what they're saying. Julio for it's so hard to have samples will have a shot. But i think it look. I think we're getting the sense. Here of the two sides that exists to the possibilities here with a thirty two year old superstar going to a new team. Jeremy offense it up with you. What is the expectation around the league. What are people. You're talking to hearing. Are you hearing about julio greenie. The word on at tennessee is a julio. Jones looks rejuvenated that he was eager to get traded. Get this over. With and now he wants to try to reclaim his spot as not one of the best but the best receiver in the league despite that age that we're talking about because i'm told that all along in the trade process. Julio jones wanted to go to a team that could utilize the deep ball. That had a strong armed quarterback. They did that in atlanta but matt ryan arm. Strength is probably a little bit ryan. Tannehill can get him deep. Julio wants to go run sixty yards get underneath the ball. Show that he's still the best at doing. Just that and i was told there was an energy around the building yesterday and on the practice field even just little glimpses of explosion that he would show on the field. They said okay. This is our offense in a big way. I i'll say again not look better getting off the bus who jones. Aj brown derrick. Henry is in any one of them. You want i know team in the nfl. Getting off the bus. We'll see what happens from there guys outstanding. Thank you for getting up here today. 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Hour 2: Top 8 WR duos

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Hour 2: Top 8 WR duos

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Your cars no longer tragic. We're reimann if life throws you os. Just say better. Get mako and head to make dot com and get an online estimate today. Did you talk about how many camps are is asked minicab. You're very dismissive of it. But this is an important one in the nfl. Because yesterday after the first day of jordan love not looking good and the became. You know where you start going to defcon five. Because no aaron rodgers. What are you gonna do. And what if they don't make the playoffs and what if they are start the season in three. Think of all the bad things that can happen. What's amazing how the difference a day can make when he goes ten seventeen at throws a couple of really nice pass in rob demovsky who covers the packers for us is tweeting about. Just how good he looks at jordan love. I mean the backup quarterback or least now he's qb one and now it's seamark question-mark always well it's complain that's our answer. He's good he's ready to go and jordan love told us. Pass kelly's answer. He will be one hundred percent ready to go and week one. We really do this to people. We really take people in the roller coaster ride of saying. Hey he's the guy and small he's not. The guy is the day to day. Baby come on. Man does look backwards perspective. I'm gonna give a real perspective the perspective they got a good football team He's not that damn bad. If they know what to do jordan love they don't have they don't need him to be air rodgers. They just need him to kind of bring them along ridership so to speak and they got great. They got good defense at times. They needed to replace the linebacker. Show up the second issue which they did. They got some skill positions lazar in atoms. They gotta running back jones. The offense align is okay. They got some stuff and they're in a division where he's not even well. You know what. I'm saying like just not above. That's where at now the way people make it sound. Oj is f- he can't play football is he. Is good and services but some of these other users runaround. Yes you saw. What happened to san francisco when they lost jimmy garoppolo. They stay competitive in one. They lost their entire roster for the most part depleted. They stay competitive in one gains. They're losing air rodgers. Which is an important piece of the ingredient but they gotta ingredient. That may not be the same spice but it could potentially be okay if they do it right so they can still be good. It'll just look different. It'll look different. That's what you're saying. I mean look at the vision. Look at the bears. Have a lot of question. Marks with management. Justin feels andy. Dolan look at detroit. Jared goff. They're starting roy starring all over minnesota. I mean do you trust in kirk cousins. Lot questions around there. Even though i think they will probably be the favorite to win the division right. But i mean if you're jordan love looking at your surroundings i don't know if you could ask for a better time if the opportunity does present itself for you to be that guy to be serviceable kebob service of big about it. Alan covered teams in this league of longtime quarterbacks that are really bad never really have top flight. Talent around him like davante adams like big about it. Which back quarterback like really bad quarterback really got all pro wide receiver in the quarterback has just god awful. It was so bad he couldn't do it. You don't have that you just don't have it because that particular position to got a solid tidying. They'll be able to manage. It doesn't mean they're going to win. Thirteen games and it went a division. Yeah absolutely. I mean you just mentioned you just asking you know what i'm saying. You just talked about it. Is jordan love every bit as good as justin fields or andy. Dong i don't know. I haven't seen him yet but let's assume probably so with in green bay is as good as is it green bay team better than detroit. Lions absolutely is kirk. Cousins is good as justin feels is is. Minnesota is good as green bay without aaron rodgers. They become even steven without aaron rodgers. They become even steven. But that's why. I was saying that like when it comes to mini camps and opportunity because jordan love didn't get much opportunity. He didn't get a lot of opportunity behind aaron rodgers. This is now his time. This is really a great evaluation. Time for the packers to even find out if you got something. Don't really know before because if you don't if you at least like you said you see something. Yeah just something that tells you all right. It looks good. We can work with this if not then you got to go shopping for no. You're not gonna be able to shop for quarter openly but do you think do you think yesterday they walk in and now we know something if they know something beforehand. They went to move up in the draft to get him in the first place. -absolutely not looked that it was like okay. Well he threw. It was supposed to do it that they're not. They're not sands. This is their livelihood and their jobs as coaches in front office. People there watching the feel what rob is seeing is. Oh my god. He through the wheel route wide open. He probably wasn't even where he's supposed to dabble. Did this. i get it when you go back. You watch the feel. The we'll route might have been the third option. It just happened to get open but is the shallow cross or show was the deep in cut. It was those were the ones that was over but he took that throw. That may that may tell live. Why would you take that throw. Because in real live games you'll never get back side to get to that. Because there's jj watt coming on your left ear or there's von miller coming right in your face or somebody coming right up the gut blitzing. They'll go back. Watch the film look at it and make the corrections. Yes we can tweet out and say oh he hits so and so here so so on it but those may not even be the right reads and that is that is what many campus four to be able to see if he can do those things and process the information correctly right and if he can't they got to put a lot more work into him or decide if he can't he'll be ingredients if he can he'll be in green bay at the end of june in all through july hit before trading met while everybody else is would j. Will sammy this. Liz does any of this though. Does any of this though change even what they ended up doing with aaron rodgers in and just. This is what i meant by it is. You don't have to trade him right now. if he's not gonna play and you can feel pretty comfortable with jordan love right and at the end of the season you then can trade. Aaron rodgers for draft picks that you already know what those picks are going to be right now. You trade him for draft picks. Don't want you around if you're not playing for me but they don't be around not really meaning meaning. I don't want you in. Every time. I look at the questions everyday need it. You wanna put it behind. You gotta put it behind that young kid if you move it on with him you cannot. Don't you think the market for him would be better after the season when teams are like. I need a quarterback i need. I'm willing to the right now. The team in the top ten gene right now that he's a quarterback in the denver broncos you've got a chance to win the championship man or come of the afc we got what you need. He's pretty shiny and clean. There's no dent sony. We put him in a shop. We got him fresh. Would you got for me. The watson made it doesn't matter he wants to go to denver to and they're gonna. I'll take eroglu see to me and i gotta run here but but that also was. The caveat is now all of a sudden. it's wait a minute. I might have to compete with now. I've got the texans. Could send them a quarterback which means the price go down. Because now you've got two guys. They could get so. I'm not gonna get in them. They send sean. What's the show. Today is the denver. Could say. I don't need to pay a high price for aaron rodgers because i'll get this guy. They don't want as much as you do now. You've got teams kind of okay. That did go right to know which is why you'd want to make that trade now so you're not involved in that kind of a market art keyshawn jails presented by progressive insurance august. Join us on the goodyear hotline coming to you live from the heineken river deck at pier. Seventeen the titans have a new wide receiver duo but will crack keys top wide receiver wide receiver. The moments seventy level that's next gauges. Espn radio and the espn app. This is a metaphor for your business journey. Sometimes it feels like the world is throwing everything it has at you and to succeed. You need someone to guide you through dell technologies advisors. Do they have the tech advice to help you. Navigate whatever challenges. You're up against and get you safely to where you want to be for. Some solutions like xps thirteen laptops powered by intel ibo platform calling advisor today at eight seven seven. Ask dell eight seven seven. Ask del as province voiceover artist. I'm here to explain bottomless. How do i get across free refills on fries and drinks. Well here goes bottomless at red. Robin means free unlimited refills on the fries inside that come with every burger or entry that means free refills on steak price. Sweet potato fries yukon kettle chips garlic fries. Broccoli side salad softwares eliminate an even root beer floats byron to your appetite does not robin g sanjay. Willin tubing the podcast. We asked key to put together a list. He's rankings of the duo's wide receiver duos in the nfl. We'll find out right now. Keep take away the smartest guy in the box on like geez. real rankings. Well this would is is going to be interesting when you think about it. So i got eight of them. And i'm noah probably misses some people and people are gonna say well what about these top five lists. No i have eight arbitrary number. What i wanna do. Apparently don't what today diva kisha on the cat. And so i'm just saying time so his name hell i wanna do it to. Somebody tells me something different in the second number eight odell beckham junior in jarvis landry. And i know oh. Bj missed last season. Most part of last season because an aco. I think he'll be back. Find coming back. And when you pay these two guys with that running game and what they have at the tidy position quarterback baker. Mayfield this off it. How can you not. You saw them cooking early on the year. Baker mayfield wasn't having the best year but he was having a solid start and we saw oh. Bj we saw landry together number seven. This one is new. Because julio julio jones comes over from atlanta with aj braille. Now i'm not in love with it. But i think when you have to dynamic presence big fast strong receivers on the outside if julio can stay healthy is gonna be something to watch. I don't know what they're gonna do in the passing game. Maybe they do something a little bit different but regardless when you have these two studs on the outside you can make hay at quarterback number six. Now oh there we go. Aired start off randomly with eight. They they don't even have. We have been having a well. They should have known that pre-production at the meeting you know i was on his call driving in so he would know. Don't try out. West keenan. Allen and mike williams. Yeah seemed like keating allen been the league one hundred years. yeah didn't he played with. You know i that will be gene. Mccarthy this is one keenan alad probably get mad at me. Because i got him to low. He's always he your top five. He wants to be higher all the time on things. But mike williams aquinas. King has been a consistent. Manses being healthy in the national football league early on both of these guys have had injury problems in their careers. They got a quarter but as long as they stay healthy. They certainly have a quarterback justin herber. They got a nice running game new head coach. They should be in the mix in the afc west. Believe it or not. Or here's your top five now number five finally five. Dallas cowboys can't have a show. It can have a list without mentioning the cowboys. Amaury cooper in cd. Lamb really getting a quarterback healthy and dak prescott is so important Cd-rom is young. Can learn a lot from amari cooper and i know you look at it and you say well okay. This is interesting. Because amari cooper has had a history of the drop sees but i think when you put these two receivers together in that passing game that the cowboys can bring to the table. They're in the top five number. Four super bowl champions. Mike evans and chris got yeah number. Four i mean who speaks for itself. They stay healthy and it seems like this is a trip with receivers right. Yes if they stay healthy. If these guys can stay healthy you got to alpha dogs. You got one got. It can play in the slot. It chris guy who's amazing. Doing his work. He got mike evans on the outside can lift the coverage. He's the red zone target. Who had a pretty good year last year. Although it was his first year with terrific tom who says he wasn't a hundred percent healthy once he gets healthy. Watch out number three this one a young son justin jefferson from the minnesota vikings alone with adam. Feeling this you talk about kirk cousins. They're going to be probably missing. Iraj is in the division kirk. Cousins loves to throw the football adjusted jefferson. We saw him as a rookie. Like the nfl. I don't see him slowing down whatsoever. Only getting better and we know without feeling is we've watched him have a pro bowl career slice defensive backs up at that position so he reminds me as they would say of a two point. Zero jordy nelson number. Two number. Two is the andre hopkins in. Aj green now aj green coming cincinnati to join arizona cardinals but the andre hopkins go suck up all the oxygen in the room. So he'll get an opportunity to shine at his new spot in arizona if he stays healthy if he stays healthy. Aj green was a monster when healthy. I don't see where he's going to slack off at all especially in a passing system where they wanna push the ball down the field on a consistent basis number one number one for me is de que metcalf with eighty run ten two or something like that ridiculously tend to time. Yes and you got tyler lockett the little guy who consistently gets it done in the return game as well as at the receiver position. So you gotta young studt it. D- came meth calf. Which is a freak in there. You also got tyler lockett. His my number one. I missing though. Feel like a missing somebody. Well i just want to know because some of the order here. I need you to explain what your what you use as your baseline for picking. This is it based on production that you expect is just based on their talent regardless like how did you. How did you come up with. This is based on their talent. Just talent is based on their talent and the production afford your s okay so both things combined. Because odell jarvis landry was he's gotta be higher prize. They've got to do coming off. Aco we don't know what they're in. It's a heavy run game that they wanna you know in cleveland. They want to run the football. Aj brown and julio jones talent wise like no you don't like the fit in the offense brown. Julio talent wise but their system is going to allow them to get the same type of numbers as a deondraye hopkins or decay. Mccaffrey tyler lockett. I've a question for you. How about robby anderson and dj thousand yards last season. And that's probably what they're going to be sampled thousand. I don't think anybody from the defensive coordinator side is sitting at home and no disrespect the dj more or or robby anderson. They're sitting at home staying up to four. Am in the morning trying to figure out how to stop them. decay metcalf. They're sitting at home pacing in their front yard trying to figure out how to shadow boxing them. They're doing effortle guys. They're doing the andre hopkins. They're doing that for twenty million dollar. Slant mike even though slats scouting hundred million dollar contract. I love ransom slats and get a hundred million when you even though they're sitting up at night trying to figure out how to defend those guys i don't know that they're doing in caroline. We haven't talked enough about odell and his return. What that could mean for cleveland. I i do think that's going to become a story In cleveland has their minicam. Because it's this there is something about him as a talent and also as just a personality that draws a lot of attention and we have really he hasn't been around you know because of the injury is impacts going to be very interesting brown's office it is in in so much like stefan digs in buffalo emmanuel sanders. Cole beasley steph ideal. Staying up at night for kobe zillow. Let him eat all day long. Because it's not going to ultimately hurt them at the end stefan digs is going to gut them. So when i started to look at these things. I gotta look at that. You talk about say. Where's yet in rehab. That's the big question. He's a hell of a football player. No key let me let me ask you. What's the upside for. Justin jefferson man. Because mean could they could that be they ever be the best of the best show last year was he ever be the best of the best or them as a tandem. Him would you you ever think he has a chance to be one of the greats with what you've seen this far early in his career i think he i think he's gonna be really good. Things will be really good. I don't know that he's going to be put on a put the passing game on his back. It allow him to be the guy. The alpha dog that carries the entire passing game. I don't know that he's there. And what matters of course is who's throwing to all these receivers were talking about. That's a big part of the production to and that brings us back. They all got good quarterbacks. Right let me think for the most part yeah yeah. Everybody has a cherry body got. Somebody's a neo. Aj who work with something a little different. I like tannehill. But yeah right. But the quarterback part of it though is always the conversation and that remains the compensation of bay jordan love had a masterpiece yesterday camps and maybe that has changed the way. The packers were thinking about their quarterback situation. We'll discuss that after sportscenter chris. Paul fourteen points fifteen this game. They should another three sudan. We've seen this act ladies and gentlemen. Yep and it is fun to watch out dodgers. I dive leading one hundred to the seventy five. It's fun to watch from son's perspective. That was the call. Arizona sports ninety eight seven. Fm as phoenix rolls to a one. Twenty three ninety eight win over the denver nuggets to take a to nothing lead in their second round series in the western conference sunday. One five straight games. Now in the playoffs chris paul at thirty six years old record his third career playoff game where he had at least fifteen points fifteen assists with no turnovers. That's clean game game. Three friday night ten pm eastern on. Espn so the celtics started interview coaches. And they're getting permission to interview assistant coaches around the league. Espn's adrian wojnarowski. Is reporting. That brad stevens. Who's now the boston celtics president. He has received permission to interview several systems. Around the league including la clippers. Chauncey billips. stephen started making calls on wednesday. Get the okay to talk to several candidates for the job to softball top seat. Oklahoma beat florida state. Six to force a winner-take-all game three in the women's college world series jocelyn aloe had a go ahead two run home run in the top six. It was as soon as one hundred fifty ninth homer of the season at senate division. One single season record game free today. Three o'clock eastern on. Espn sports center. Brought to you by goodyear. Good you're not from here on out. Every game is a chance to create momentum to make the right past the right move. Hit the perfect shot. It takes momentum. Get through the playoffs. It takes everything to capture title goodyear. More jim you laughing do what good day. It probably want. Good drill him now he they know what this is. We just talk about aaron rodgers every single day and that's something that people out there needs to know every single detail that comes out of that camp including jordan love. We'll be national news. I can hear. can't he. is the question that everybody's heidi jordan love. Let's bring in louis riddick now. Espn monday night. Football analysts on the goodyear hotline. Good morning so so we're we're making a big deal about it. Reported always make a big deal about a mini camp performance. But in your is your s estimation is. This was that an important day for jordan love in the packers or do we need to see clue you see more but are we making too much of it i guess. Of course we make too much. I mean but it's better to have. It's have days like this than to not. I mean it'd be even bigger news if we were reporting that jordan love looks terrible jordan. Love can't command the huddle jordan. Love can't recall. What would matt leflore is telling them in his headset in. Lebanon lebanon situation jordan. Love don't interceptions jordan. Love looks in accurate. Then we'd have a real big problem so of course they wanna stack good days. Everybody wants to stack good days especially in a situation like this where he's replacing. Potentially a living legend up there who right now is trolling. His team in basically basically has his team running around constantly having to answer for an account for why. He's not there why he's ticked off while he doesn't wanna show up in this young man jordan. Love kind of caught in the crossfire and there are knows that. I think it's cool. That aaron is kind of said. Hey look this is not jordan lows fall and he should not have to bear the brunt of what's going on between he and the packers but unfortunately that's where he's at and with that comes hyper scrutiny with every throw whether it be individual whether it be seven on seven. We're whether it be inside skelly where he's throwing the running backs and tight ends team. He's he's gonna have everything hyper analyzed. It's good though to hear that. Even the kid himself felt good yesterday and started to click a little bit in the context of this offense. That's always good lewis. We've seen these things in the league for a long time you've been obviously in the personnel side when a player leaks out that he doesn't want to be part of an organization any more. What are the chances that aaron rodgers played for the green bay packers this season. Honestly i mean no one will not i don't i don't know erin personally. But knowing what others have said about him and what his track record has been as far as when he becomes convicted about something. I would say that if it's left up to him. The chances are slim and none. I'm gonna take him at his word for it. But i i would just say this though from the management side of things. Because we've all we've talked about it. A lot from errands side of things and i understand that i get that i get kind of what he the message that he's trying to get across this football team. But if you're the packers right now i wouldn't say a word if i was sitting there in the front office of them and i had already created this situation i would have said my piece tried to go ahead and say look. I acknowledged the fact that you may not like how we do business. I'm going to need to be better. With how i communicate with players. Not just you but other veterans that have come through here that maybe i didn't communicate with and handle their departure here in the way that makes people understand that i do understand that it's relationship business. I would have done that but number nine. And i would have tried to convince them that. Look maybe we miss evaluated where you're at in your career. I would have done all that. But now i would just sit back and wait because i don't have to do anything as a general manager as and as a president if he doesn't wanna play here then that's on him. But i wouldn't have to do anything because i'm gonna now valuate my quarterback in these these mini camps. I'm going to evaluate him once. Training camp starts. I'm going to have him play in. Preseason games and quite honestly. I don't need to see anything from erin. I know what he brings to the table really the next inflection. Point for me is the beginning of the regular because then let's put it this way the beginning of training camp next inflection point. Because that's when eric and start accruing some huge fines in addition to the fines that he could potentially be facing right now from missing. Mandatory minicamp then comes training. Camp then comes the beginning of the season then comes the trade deadline those are the inflection points. We need to look at right now as it relates to aaron and the packers and how serious aaron really is is he willing to miss training camp all of training camp the beginning of the season. He's thirty seven years old. This is a guy right now really. He's already so them that he's in the prime of his career. Right now you're the renting. Mvp you're in the prime of your career. Is he willing to waste any days any games any years at this point in his career. So if you're the packers and you're looking at it from a from a management standpoint from a strategic standpoint you just sit and wait because there's no way you can win and really recoup maximum value or fair value for a guy his caliber at this point. There's no way you can so you need to really just sit and wait. You need to play this out to the very very end with him and test his resolve as far as is he really that committed to not playing for us. That's what they need to do. I don't wanna see it happen that way. None of the fans want to see it happen that way. It should never got to this point. But if you're the packers now that's what you have to do. You have to play a very very high stakes game of chicken with him and take it all the way to the end. 'cause time in quite honestly leverage is on your side when it comes to that know. Obviously if he doesn't play you're losing a hall of famer and that's never good lewis from somebody that's been in your position and i. I think i can attest to your demeanor and how you handle things. I haven't seen you that fired up before it seems that this aaron rodgers thing that bothers you well. It does day only in this in this regard. Okay i've been on both sides right so i've been locker rooms. I played engaged. I've been around superstars and then at the same time i switched over spent twelve years in the front office. I understand how front office is think. Understand how they're not always in the right. Understand how players are not always in the right. But i see it from both sides and i get what aaron is saying believe me i understand what it's like as a player and having been friends with superstar players who do deserve different levels of treatment in different levels of let's just say communication with the powers that be when it comes to their future and the future of things that are surrounding them and that affect their future in the packers. Quite honestly didn't do that. They just did not do that in this goes beyond him and he kind of up pointed that out when he was talking with kenny. Mayne on sportscenter about the fact that they lost a little. He felt that they lost sight. Of the fact that yes the packers are machine in of itself and they have a tremendous history of success for a long time. But let's just say it's not it's not just about the packers brand it's not about the yellows not about the green the logo on the helmet. It's about the people who are inside of that building. The guys who were in those helmets and in those pads that have made this organization what it is and he feels as though they lost sight of the people who really make that thing go in terms of how they communicate with them how they conduct business how they make them feel as professionals both on and off the field i get that i totally get that but from a management perspective. Also i've also said look. I don't blame brian. Good akins for trying to look towards the future and get a quarterback when he didn't necessarily need a quarterback that at that time but that's the best way to do it. You don't do it after your quarterback is hit the wall and then all of a sudden you're scrambling in panicking trying to figure out. Who's next the problem. Was maybe how he conducted business beforehand. With other people that aaron saul and how he communicated with aaron himself who was a hall of famer and they deserve they have earned different levels of communication and respect from us management. So i get both sides of it. I really do and it. Sucks quite honestly. It really does because now instead of celebrating the guy who's coming off an mvp season at thirty seven years old who was playing at the highest level. He can possibly play at instead of celebrating that talking about having segments about. Just how good he is. We're talking about is he gonna play is gonna show up and now we have a young man in jordan love. Who has all the talent in the world that we're sitting here scrutinizing whether or not he had a good day and minicam with no pads on and pass rush things get sideways like that simply because they didn't communicate it's amazing is true ever use of is fantastic. Take by you absolutely fantastic because you really do encapsulate everything that is going on with that situation. Boiling all the way down to the fact that we are assessing whether or not jordan. Love had a good day at many campuses. Got to leave it right there. Thank you so much appreciate your time. Thank you bet okay. Take louis riddick on the goodyear hotline brought to you by goodyear. Helping you discover the road ahead. Goodyear more driven keyshawn. Jay wills zubin presented by progressive home insurance. Get your quote. Progressive dot com. Today all right. There's a lot there to discuss over. 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We're talking to the people in the studio. I got confused. I can play the game if you want me to. Jay look right in the eyes and talk to you. You're not talking to me now. See i know you don't confuse people now. I love when winky gets that little looking at that base. That internet What is that noise. that's what it is. That's what's happening internally for old man going on. Where was this radio go. Is he doing idiot. Louis louis riddick did say something though. He's got a lot in that interview. We just did with hot. Did you get a question key. 'cause i know jake ask you did. It wasn't sure it's fine because it was one question and then wow ask him eilon hot fire. I asked him if air rogers is going to ever play for green bay again the the question. Yeah but his his response he had a. He had a couple of responses. That were saying the same thing which is essentially that the packers are in a position. They were put in this position by aaron rodgers. And now they're really putting this position by communication right but there's something saying he's saying you can get past it but the bottom line. Is this feel. We made us to do anything right now. They don't have to do a thing with aaron rodgers right now. So take a listen lewis riddick and what he had to say about that situation. If you're the packers and you're looking at it from amana from the management standpoint from a strategic standpoint. You just sit and wait because there's no way you can win and really recoup maximum value or fair value for a guy of his caliber at this point. There's no way you can so you need to really just sit and wait. You need to play this out to the very very end with him and test his resolve as far as is he really that committed to not playing for us. That's what they need to do. I don't want to see it happen that way. None of the fans want to see it happen that way. It's a never got to this point but if you're the packers now that's what you have to. You have to play a very very high stakes game of chicken with him. Here's what's interesting about that. So louis riddick you heard the passion in his voice when describing right so that somebody from the outside that has experienced in dealing with scenarios like this to a degree if that ego is like that like saying okay now. I'm going to wait now. We're having the standoff staring contests. Let's see who flinches i if that's from outside perspective about how abuses situation. How is it viewed internally. Brian goodwin conserve. Your mark murphy. Like what kind of bigger do you have. You seen her saying. Okay that's how lewis was about it. Imagine how they feel about it is just. That's the case. Then that's gonna be one hell of a standoff. Yeah are you willing to sit out a whole season. Are you willing to sit there. And if that's the case fine because we're not getting full value for you anyway. 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REShow: Isaac Bruce & Michael Holley - Hour 3 (06-10-21)

The Rich Eisen Show

54:26 min | 4 months ago

REShow: Isaac Bruce & Michael Holley - Hour 3 (06-10-21)

"In a different future starts with you. That's go daddy does more than help you find a name. You can create cell and found online so any small business could be a driving force to create change or building empire. We know old ideas are cutting anymore. So we're calling for a new generation thinking your way of thinking so whatever you have in mind that will help make different future. Find everything you need to start at. Go daddy dot com because the future is decided. Get this up to us to make it happen star different at go. Daddy dot com. This is the rich eisen show jordan. Love is really sitting there thinking. Did you think. I wanted to be in this position. Rich eisen show in memphis a penny hardaway. He has a gown team that wears the really small short and one time he had a breakaway layup. And he missed it. And i promise you was because of the ellen rose. Everybody wanted carlier on this show. Packers reporter rob demovsky saint safety malcolm jenkins coming through football hall of fame. In duffy isaac bruce plus from peacock's brother from another michael holly and now you're rich is number three of the rich eisen show on the air this hour. We'll talk about what What pete lonzo. The new york mets had to say You see the reigning home run champion. The national league basically talent pitchers tack up go for and That one kind of left me with my mouth. Open a bit And that's the subject matter and major league. Baseball pitchers are doing and putting on baseball's putting their gloves and putting on their fingers and baseball's getting set to crack down on all of that. We'll talk about that Malcolm jenkins was already on this program. He was terrific and rob demovsky of espn diana receive espn covering the packers and titans respectively Talking about what they're seeing in those minicamps both mandatory and voluntary respectively. Julio jones at voluntary minicamp for the tennessee titans words ever thought i would say into a microphone inhabit being accurate michael holly of brother from another right here on nbc sports on peacock. If you watch us every day we appreciate that you can get peacock for free at peacock. Tv dot com. After the dan. Patrick show we take you to michael. Holly and michael smith michael. Holly will help us take us to his show Bill check on the subject matter of cam newton's health somebody actually asked bella check a health question in june. That happened not smart. That's great we'll play that Given take but this man is going into the pro football hall of fame. This last time i saw him was At nfl honors walking down a hallway after he just gotten the knock on the door by david baker at us and Who knew that we would. All be quarantined About two months later his inductions pro football hall of fame delayed a summer. But it is still happening. Thank goodness he is The great isaac. Bruce here on the rich eisen show. How are you doing isaac ritz. Doing good man. Thanks for having me on the show today. Of course absolutely Give me your favourite. Kurt warner story. He doesn't want you to tell me. What do you got to those stores. Those exist know that he doesn't want you to tell me. Do any of those exist. Isaac bruce ma. I think he's pretty transparent. I mean you guys do know that he. He worked in a grocery store right. Yeah we do know that we do know that we do know that we do know. I think his nickname was flash in high school because he was a lot was a lot faster. Apparently the yeah. I think that's what i think that's true. It might not be. But i can have happy to turn further him with that regardless but he did have a pretty decent jump shot You know anytime we gotta wait to Go into the cafeteria where there was the basketball. Go good form for quarterback shooting basketball. What was that You know they're making a movie out of his that his story And so what was that. Like having a front row seat for all of that isaac bruce back in your day you just looking at it. It was pretty strange to the same of the worst. Everyone else You know kinda kinda story. American-made story and You know i can see Disney taken the whole story and making a movie out of And you know kinda just being there to live it. And it was so real that time and Fortunately we had a happy very happy ending. Come out no doubt about that and You know party or career to people. Who've you're gonna you're bust is going to be sitting in the same room as kurtz and then one of my favorite people on planet. Earth marshall faulk When you guys got connected What was your first impression of of twenty eight when you first met him is oh man. I had already had my impression of marshall way back in his San diego charging. Excuse me san diego aztecs. Dave yes diego state. I mean every thursday night you know that over a conference was always on you know On television and he'd be running all over the field and After that when he landed in indy. I mean it just turned into superman and you know i always say that. Legitimate legitimately played with three superheroes. Marcia other team in toronto so those guys were awesome and marshall. Delete way in. Hey you know. I mean i just saw Tory just a few weeks ago because he was kind enough to run in my charity. Run for saint jude this year. And i love that guy. I think he should be next. What do you think isaac. Oh absolutely absolutely it would have been much fun for him to be In its twenty one class You know so we you know. Be twenty twenty one but longtime deserving Had a great career. Statistically a great person great guy father He just does everything right. Isaac bruce here on the rich eisen show what do you think the lasting legacy of the The greatest show on turf is what we're seeing. Honestly there's no there's no There's no ending punctuation Behind it right now because when you look through the lead you still see a lot of teams a lot of audiences attempting to duplicate what we have Either from a philosophy standpoint or you know if they can manufacture the personnel that we have on that level so they like run around. And i think You know what. Mike martz brought to the team and Expertise and competence just resonated through the league and people are still trying to duplicate it. Who's trying to duplicate it. What are you see when you turn on television on a sunday or a thursday or monday. What what are you saying personnel personnel groupings from Three wives four wide empty backfield The combinations I can i can sit back and just Really just name. The route combinations from from the scarves snap and The names maybe changed but most definitely. They're they're pretty much a lot of stuff that we ran you know. I like to say that we perfect it. When we played isaac bruce class of twenty twenty finally going into the hall of fame. Here in twenty twenty one knocking on wood Pro football hall of famer from the saint. Louis rams and yes even the los angeles rams because that's how you were drafted into the league correct by the chuck knox anaheim based los angeles about to move rams correct nuts nineteen ninety four First round draft pick of that year wayne gandy out of auburn tackle and i was the second round. Pick nineteen ninety four right anaheim so after spending two years in junior college and so the california came right back to the rams but had agreed time i hear meant so reorient send what was that. Like for you though South florida kid. Who did play a couple years to get to the university of memphis and then get drafted a play couple of years in southern california. What was that like for you to be thrown into that. And then suddenly were saint louis ram and all of that was going on for you in your career is what i definitely unconventional route for getting getting a college but once i came here in In southern california. I'm currently here in southern california. Right now It was it. Was it at the same type melting pot that i grew up in south florida The they had a son that was shining all the time but the humidity minus the humidity that i grew up in south florida but Just the people that felt men to culture here. I was different and i enjoyed every minute of it and was difficult for you to just actually focus on your craft and get get get Get get what you need to get done when all this other stuff was going on with the franchise the team the move the locations and stuff like that for you i was. I was in a good place to have Really good coaches coach mart. So he was on the staff at that time and Right acted a movie at the and become my position coats. He's the wide receiver coach and had green veterans. That were in the room with me. Flipper anderson Jessie hester Guys who could really helped me develop. So i think i benefited from those those people being around constantly and really just focusing in on Becoming a better football player You know having moved around from south. Florida to los angeles so i was kinda used to moving but at the same time i just had that stability of those guys who were willing to help me and helped me develop isaac bruce here on the rich eisen show Julio jones's now tennessee titans how do you think that's gonna work is with him and aj brown a second year third year player. Now they're all they're all derrick henry as well. How do you see that offense plan out. Now that julio is joined the mix there is well. Julio it's awesome he's always been awesome days at alabama and everything he's done to leave us for just partnering up with aj ground. Which i who i feel is another legit receiver in this league I think the pressure is definitely on tannehill now because You know with the weapons that he had outside And and the big derrick henry that's behind it You know. I guess team are going to come out and try to stop tanning you and make him have to completely beat them as opposed to you. Know the which has been which. You hit the turnaround just heading derrick henry ball you know. Twenty plus nine twenty five plus times. Ah game so maybe that defense starts to really focus on and try to force cana hill to beat them instead of what you what you had previously so who best receiver in the game. The one that you'd put your isaac bruce harder new american dollars down to see. Would that person be currently in the. Nfl isaac bruce. I still like hopkins Over in arizona. I think he's a special talent Julio win healthy he definitely special Maybe maybe probably two or three guys. That i need to watch Play football player position. But you know. I think the league is full of a lotta break. Talented guy got up and coming every year. It seems like we have a guy as seemingly comes out of nowhere it really just hops right into the upper echelon of Top five wide receivers in the league so unexcited about fan. Who got will be this year. I mean d- home He he's just it. Always seems to me. Isaac that has catch radius is almost a superhuman. And i i. i've never seen him come when he's got a. You know tiptoe the sideline. He's got to do the toe drags swagger anything. I've never seen his foot out of bounds. Ever it's alway e he's got an uncanny sense of where he is on the field. I and how do you. How does one do something like that. You know repetition. Yeah through repetition. Uh you know being able to control your body movements He's the biggest guy But at the same time you know it takes it. Takes hours of repetition these oh. Ta that we that we see these guys going through right now. The mini caps and Spending time alone just practicing it. So when the opportunity presents itself in a game you know it seems second nature but He's truly a great great talent. And i i love watching him play and i love You know when he asked them hook up with the jalen ramsey of the world and those guys battle each other men of those are awesome to. You're rooting for their. How do you how do you see how do you see stafford plain out in this offense for the rams in los angeles almost like a breakfast pressure. I think not only for stafford but you know for the rams offense a unit as a whole I think You know with with is addition. I think that offense is ready to you. Know kinda see what we saw and two thousand eighteen In the early part of two thousand. Nineteen and i mean you know throwing the ball down the field taking the top off the defense and You know a lot less you know. Passes behind the line of scrimmage and and You know drinking and dunkin. So i think with his addition man he. You'll have that mentality along with sean. Mcvay just throw the ball down the field. How much contact you have with the current. La rams mcveigh and everybody isaac You know i'm actually going to practice today so contact. Maybe maybe i get a chance to meet coach mcvay for the first time. You've never had. I mean just you know. Things just happened just hasn't happened but You know maybe it happened today. But i'll i'll be around the guys today and it's always. It's always a great feeling when you can go to practice and really. Don't have to participate. So i enjoy that. Okay well Mcveigh's the guy talks fast He's he looks young here and he He's got great hair at just look for look for that guy. That's the guy nice air. Please i'm jealous. I'm i'm looking There there were shown a picture right there. Yeah so Before let you go. The isaac bruce foundation sweepstakes pro football hall of fame and shrimp giveaway. What's that about is a man. It's a cool deal man. We partnered with Let's engage dot com slash isaac and It's an opportunity for fans to win a grand prize of two round trip. Airfare air flight air airfare tickets to canton's its induction at three nights. Stay hotel Tickets for sold out pre enshrinement tailgate. And all of it. You know it's for ten dollars to enter into the sweepstakes week they've been it goes towards is the foundation my flaker under program and we provide transportation to college bound students in me and We haven't turned any way Anyone away since two thousand six so It's a great deal. Great calls and it'd be a lot of fun again. How can people get involved in. Ah they can find all information on less engage dot com slash is it. Okay just entered the sweepstakes but ten dollars and they get an opportunity to win the grand prize a grand prize just to hang out. And and be a personal guest. Of isaac bruce at the enshrinement ceremony. That's coming up Let's plan for this summer So isaac how does your bus look. I imagine you've have you still not seen it. Because i mean it's been a year. Plus he still. It's still going to be reveal when you see it going. To be revealed. it looks. It looks really good We did The sizing and everything down in miami a couple of years ago but the actual Makeup of it and we did the zoom which you know which is kinda hard So i really haven't seen the finished product but You know from everything i saw. It kind of looks like mccown looked like my older brother. A little bit but I'm sure it'd be a nicer crowd. Smiling is it. Smiling isaac bruce. All business isaac bruce. Is it young isaac. Bruce is at super bowl. Grizzled isaac bruce. What do we have what do you think what do we have to think. It's the it's the young isaac blues none smiling pre-game let's go play either Okay you're focused. I guy. I like it Also who is presenting him at the hong. I have tony riley east presenting me along with my brother. Samuel bruce one who i Fell in love with football Watching him every day go out and play and Little league journey minute high school johnny hill. Those would be. The two guys don't have Participating with me okay and you know you've been waiting a long time not just This last year but your entire career. So i say that Leading up to this. And i fully understand. This is about me. Okay isaac. I'm so sorry but there is an iron rich eisen So i understand. This is about me. There's a lot of people talking. A lot of people i mean. You got the centennial class. You got the your class. I know that there's there. I think the centennial class might have been handled before. I don't know what they're the protocol. But then there's twenty twenty one. Also so i know you're you've been a man of few words your entire life. I mean that's part of your mo. You're you're quiet your reserved you let your play. Do the talking Can you can you. Can you be that guy when it's time to talk In honest isaac how how long your speech what he got for me absolutely You know. I feel like my words. More impactful So therefore when it's time to speak. I'll definitely have something to say but i think they're giving us about eight minutes. Tease at for the speeches are concerned. Eight eight minutes. Eight minutes is probably between ten and fifteen minutes so it may stretch us a little bit long. I'll try to honor. You know what's been asked of. No look ten fifteen minutes. I would literally signed for that right now. They were getting poor. Kurt kurt the year. That he went in he got up there. It was like a quarter after eleven at night because people going like thirty eight forty minutes and You know like we. Can't isaac signed for that. I put y'all fame a long time ago. If i'd known. I should've i should've had you be my my presented. The i could pound the table right. I will always pound the table for you. know this. I've been around. Marshall incurred a longtime. They love you man and they were always pounding the table on your behalf or speak glowingly of you every single time that your name. But i'm sure you already knew that. But you deserve to hear it so Congratulations on everything. Thank you mandeville filling the definitely mutual. Thank you. I appreciate it. Let's do this As the day approaches that isaac. Bruce let's do it thanks. Let's do it. You got it super bowl. Thirty four champ. Class of twenty twenty inductee finally getting his day in the sun figuratively. And literally isaac bruce here on the rich eisen show ten fifteen minutes dude their talent dude. I'm to referring to you. I'm looking at you dude. They're telling the guy at eight minutes rela- good one minutes sharks over. Let me tell you this will tell you this story really quick. I'm gonna tell you yeah. Take the over the story real quick the one year i hosted i emceed the whole enchilada. Okay it's great. It's because berman was chosen as the presenter Ralph wilson owner of the buffalo bills. He's going in and He chose burma to introduce him. This was back in the day when the people who presented were allowed to speak to give a speech on behalf of the induct. Okay now. it's just a beautifully produced. Nfl network nfl films video where the presenter is the person who is introduction. Introducing the presenting the person for all of fame. Enshrinement there while it's a beautiful beautiful three four minute long. Okay back in this day. not on. You were win. Was on the lookout. When ralph wilson was going and i remember the night before. Berman said to me night before i saw at that party. Thousand nine two thousand nine. Gosh darn it. Wow twelve years ago. Now he says to me i said to him Hey i'm really excited to do this tomorrow. You have any words of advice for me. And he looks at me he goes. Don't be too good. Love christmas but he gave a terrific speech and already circus lagging and all that stare. There were two posthumously inducted members of that class one of them bullet bob hayes of the dallas cowboys and the other was derrick. Thomas of the kansas city chiefs their presenters were respectively. Roger staubach and the longtime general manager of the chiefs. Carl peterson roger. Staubach goes and he was told he was told by the pro football hall of fame. Because it's such a long day please. When you are presenting an accepting for your deceased enshrining for the poshness enshrinee and traumat- five minutes. That's roger staubach navy. Man went five minutes to the dot literally on the button. Five minutes a call. Peterson gets up later on because it was the second to last enshrinee. Carl peterson gets up. Speaks on behalf of derrick thomas for twenty four minutes and it was so long. God bless you carl. It was so long. I got up from my seat and sought out joe horrigan the longtime vp of exhibits and communication. Who ran the weekend for all those years and is one of the sweetest greatest human beings on the planet backed confirm and i've found him and he basically gave me him. I turn around to go back out on the stage. Okay and standing in between me and the podium was roger staubach so this is twelve years ago. I'm thirty nine. I could have been forty years of age at this point time k. As you would have been you would've been forty forty four year old man confidence in my abilities thrilled to be there all that but inside of me was the seven eight year old version of me who watched dallas cowboys games in the basement of my staten island house. Watching roger staw back behind that offensive line that would stand up and getting position and all of that with the head. Tom landry and i'm thinking to myself. Oh my god yeah. And he doesn't look happy and he says to me. Hey we were told only go five minutes. I went five minutes. I think carl's going on like four or five times as long. And i said to roger shrug emoji a forty year old virgin me talking to the seven year old version of me saying the same thing as a seven year old version of me but in a much different tone of all my god. This is roger staubach and he's pissed at me like you had anything to get my head. I wanted to say like you want me to take a big cane and gang off like raj do you. What do you want me to do. Like salmon solid. Honestly like what do you want me to do. Sure enough carl's and then the next final inductee was bruce. Smith was introduced by his longtime defensive. Coordinator ted cottrell. Who did the whole thing that burma did which was talked to every single bills fan. They'll at circle the wagons buffalo bills. This that he went on. Longer than bruce smith did bruce's a much. You know the as kind of like isaac bruce. He's a big talker. Ted cottrell went longer than him. Look it up. Last year. They allowed presenters to give a speech. I was the host that day. i was the. Mc so if you're saying to these people you can only go fa fo eight minutes. Oh my gosh please. Is this the best defensive class of all time. Not only derrick thomas and bruce smith but rod woodson that year. Oh yeah mike on-road two thousand dollars one of the first times. We actually like mike yuccas. Rod was working for nfl. With i mean you county. Can you argue with that. And smith pull them all going in with With bruce and steve atwater. Who by the way. Stuart scott loved my cell phone number at the time had the numbers two and seven in next to each other and you always referred to as steve atwater part of my phone. Nice to have a phone numbers. Oh yeah oh. Yeah stu loved steve atwater. Let's take a break when we come back. Somebody asked bill. Belichick a health question in june about a quarterback. What are you thinking. Lewke bets is balling out for the dodgers. 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Okay you know that was all the all the guys that made it a super bowl teams. Are you seeing you. The debt waiters. I think i might have been on. Yeah how chuck no cut you. What did he say he called me in. you know. i went to the office and brought my playbook. I knew i was going. And he couldn't have been nicer by the way and and you know he was complementary you know he said you know look. You're tough kid but you know you're trying to learn the position. I had never played. We didn't have outside linebacker in the college. I played for so it was the only position i read. You know reasonably played and i just didn't have enough time. He said look. It's my first year too. So he said i can get you down with the eagles eagles desperate and that would have got rental car straight down. Eighty to die and he said about. It's gotta be you gotta tell me right now and i said i'm done you didn't want to go play the eagles. No i don't know it was. It was a spur of the moment. This i had knee problems. I was and i was to be honest. I was sick of football. Who was the best football player that you ever lined up. We have war against roger. Stop when you play against him. I played against roger staubach when i was at youngstown state university and he was at pensacola naval station doing his six-year bit. Wait a minute. This great story right. You know they do that and he graduated from. Annapolis won the heisman. Went down there and play football for six years. You're playing against the pensacola naval station. Naval and out. Trotz roger staubach. That's not fair. He was a quarterback. That's now these were high-scoring close game. Did you rush. did you get them. I take them down. And tell you the truth. I i rushed him. I got a hold of them. I spun around one time on his leg and he just kept wiggle his leg three. And then he threw a touchdown pass. I hit him illegally out of bounds once and they had a guy there. Middle linebacker was a guy named lynch was was a naval boxing. Champion who i think. His brothers played by this play for kansas city. Okay the lynch brother short and he wanted to kill me. You know because they loved roger courses so you almost started a brawl by hitting roger. Staubach got out. I was just so tired of chasing him and he just stepped out of bounds. And i thought no. I'm i've been running twenty five yards now. I just got fifteen yards on ed. O'neill yeah one of the most interesting gasping ever had. I mean great ed. O'neill right there on our youtube stream. Eight four four zero. Four rich is the number to dial so we had a A moment to a couple of weeks ago where. I think this was the first biggest live. Tweet me of the minicamp. Season chris when we saw coming out of new england that That cam banged his hand on a helmet. Right bank his hand was looking at knuckle. The sideline show and team. We haven't seen him since right. He has not been out there. No so question is is like is this something. That's going to require something. Or all jared. How long could he be out there. I mean cinemas. We're seeing a lot of those tweets them lot of them a lot of stuff but it looks pretty good there. I'm seeing a lot of eleven fourteen. Twelve fifty thousand thirteen for sixteen and stuff like that. I'm seeing that but it's like what about cam. Well what about cam. Ask bill belichick about the health. His players you don't do that. I mean you don't go. I feel it's like you don't go to a town like las vegas and talk to a man like green like that right. You don't do that. Nope at the top of the list. Right this is like you don't go to new england. Ask bill belichick. The health of his players like directly and expect an answer and certainly not in the middle of june right. I have not seen this. Just said cut it. I've read it. I imagine it just. It sounds as it reads on the page out. Earth question about cam on. I know he left last week. Given injury up the ekiti out there and housi- progressing from that end injury that he suffered right. yeah he he's doing all right He won't participate today. But you know he's he's getting better get nothing serious. No he's not out there so he'll he'll i think it'd be alright. Yeah actually kind of more and more jolly than i expected teased. I was waiting for like a serious. I think the questions that serious you could see. He did see sort of move as is around like like. Let's compute like what does that mean what i mean like you know. What should i say how. I guess from the bill that bob is expecting him to explode in never gonna explode explores a silence. I think is when i was kind of expecting but because i hadn't seen any of the quotes on paper but so is it serves. What did you get out of that. It doesn't get something on no. I think it just kind of banged. Maybe it's bruised and you're just kind of waiting for the swelling to go down but rich. Did him was eleven fourteen today. ha Not as crisp as last week according to jeff l. meanwhile in the world of major league baseball Your loss angeles dodgers here in this town. I don't know of many fan bases In america where you know. They're they're everywhere in his town. Dodger fans are everywhere in this town in los angeles. I'll your people all hear from people. What's wrong with the dodgers right quite a bit and then i'm like what's wrong. The dodgers wait a minute. Let me just look at the standings less than while they're eleven games over nothing with them. The giants are playing very well. They're trailing the giants so got it got it. I think we expected san diego good. And i feel like saying As a yankee fan can can can can we. Can we run. Somebody like trevor. Bauer up out third. Can we do that can you. Have you know bueller kershaw bauer. Can we do get the who can match that and major league baseball right right now. Nobody the white sox have a pretty good staff. No i know that product come on now. I mean like did they even have it. When is hurt which is right. And who's the third man any in in in dc after sherzer. You know what. I mean like that and are eleven games over with bellinger being hurt for all for for pretty much all of them and mookie betts has not even started essentially like literally. The first two months have been just for him pedestrian numbers. Well to as we speak. I believe he is. He is showing up right already. Homered correct he's having today. He led off the game with a home game straight. He did right off the game. And and here's what he does may better than anybody else. The the hose and right field. Who would run on him at all. Now you have. You can't blame The the kid on the pirates. I think it's eric gonzalez. I think it was the on third base. He tripled to lead off the inning on aureus and next batter loops one in the right field. And that's going to the right field. Line has to reach out and extend his glove hand to just kind of bend over awkwardly to just grab it bring it and his momentum is taking him as he's bent over shoestring and towards the right field line he pero es and fires a perfect one hop dart to home plate to get the guy who's trying to tag on a third all in one motion nine to double play not even gather step. He catches the ball and immediately spins and throws a missile home. This reminder everybody that he honestly it's it kind of feels like he's just showing up now. Doing mookie betts things. Yeah off to a slow start. He's only hitting two fifty and you know we should. We should also say here because we always liked talking about the positive before we kind of go all in on baseball about other stuff and bats. That guy is you'll never that but statute of limitations of you being so disappointed in the red sox letting him walk We'll never go back. Never get to my of course you will damn straight you will you absolutely so On the other hand. Let's revisit because we went in on garrett cole for having the worst non answer to a flat out question do you pitch. Have you ever pitched with attack which is essentially like if you've ever talked anything in your bathroom s. It's like really like it. You could see it if you've ever seen a video of it it it it just like it just nia extent just doesn't a break like you had to literally rip it. All its purpose. On this earth is in construction to glues cinderblocks together. Okay so pitchers apparently putting this on their glove and putting it on their fingers. And that's other getting the spin right through the roof. And josh donaldson of the twins essentially mentioned how many pitchers are gonna maybe have esi put it there. Spin rates magically drop and mentioned garrett cole by name and who was standing in the batter's box in the first inning last night with kohl's first start since all of that after getting touched up his previous one josh donaldson and guess what cole uncorked fastest pitch record a major league baseball last night. One hundred point five miles an hour at one to pitch that donaldson did fell off before striking out and getting cold staring down a little bit. Yeah he came in coal coal. Give up a couple of runs last night but he looked like the garrett cole that earned three hundred million dollar contract you consider while he's probably still using it they haven't checked for it yet and all that business i mean. I would assume he's reading. They have to check through this stuff on offense sitting at home and i totally understand pita lonzo. Maybe having a different approaching. I'm not the one standing in the batter's box. And i'm also not a teammate. As much as i love you guys neither none. Nobody here on the rich eisen show Either in front of the camera behind the camera has had their face broken by baseball recently. Right that was thrown now Errantly okay so kevlar teammate. Of the mets as you know brad his face broken by baseball so inform yourself with that a little bit before. We listen to. Pete alonso saint. Hey he has no. Problem pitchers put crap on a baseball if it gives them a better grip i don't care what they use. I mean for me. I use pine tar hit the lizard. Skin have batting gloves. Like i have the most advantage when it comes to holding on my bat. So i wouldn't care 'cause on our on deck bag we have pine tar rag pine tar Like a like a special sticky spray. Rosin i mean you name it. We have it. I mean. i wouldn't care if they had that on hind amount to help put onto the ball. 'cause when we start getting into these hotter months guys start to sweat and let's say they lose a fastball arm side. I mean we saw what happened to kevin pull are in that. That's scary and we're lucky that he only got humi had broken does and i mean it could be a lot worse depending on Depending on where it's a guy so is he saying basically guys are throwing faster now on we need the the that sort of stuff to have them have better control of it. Because that's kinda how. I play the other sound bite if you don't mind Mike hoskins. there's a second sound by. Where we're we're alonzo goes deeper. Let him use it because for me. It's i'd i go in the box every single day and i see guys throwing harder and harder every day and want to. I don't want ninety nine slip out of someone's hand because they didn't have enough feel for it. I think that the the biggest concern. Is that a major league baseball manipulates the baseball's year in and year out depending on free agency class or guys being in an advanced a part of their arbitration. So i do think that's a big issue The ball being different every single year with other sports to balls the same like basketball football tennis golf like balls the same. I think that that's the that's the real issue with the changing of the baseball's in maybe if they didn't delete it and change the baseball pitchers to use as much sticky stuff. you know. Want alonzo makes sense there man because i remember seeing the article yesterday. I'm like he's really want pitchers to cheat. 'cause as a fan i don't know but he's got a point there he does where it just like. Could you imagine if the nfl change. Football's that makeup of it. The the feel of it maybe delay i. I would find that hard to believe basketball's did they change the basketball. Sometimes i think i do. I read that they they every one year where they went to a different ball and the players did it last year and they immediately back to the puck was livelier and hockey. 'cause the baseball's are made me certain way that there's no way to be uniform that year to year i am. You're just basically say that baseball. There's somebody in a room who probably looks and sounds like the guy who told roy hobbs to take the money and the natural right mr comiskey back in the day whoever right and and that they say okay we look at the ledger and law pitchers or coming up for arbitration more than hitters. So let's use. The baseball saw the numbers of pitching. We don't have to pay him a la a hitters are coming up this year more than pitchers in arbitration so. Let's dead in the baseball. That is some tinfoil happy boy. They're never going to get a collective bargaining agreement. Don if this is the way that some people coming to the table she also think pete alonso was saying spider attack spider man spider web. It don't matter he. The polar bears gonna hit it out the park regardless of what you can. And that's the problem because not everyone is a polar bear. And i'm sitting at home and i want more polar bears and instead of getting on stout with one nothing games and innings. Nobody puts the ball in play. And it stinks is. I'm applying for the spider tax administration. Very good might add. Is that what you do when you're not here because we don't know what i'm gonna i'm gonna work the screening room. You know what i'm saying. I just i don't know there's gotta be happy medium. Here spider man. Maybe you don't just change the baseball's be uniform. We'll take a break here. We come back michael. Holly will help us take us to his show right here on. Nbc sports on peacock wanna to hear something. Amazing discover matches all the cash. Back you earn on your credit card at the end of your first year automatically with no limit on how much you can earn. Amazing is that in fact. It's even more amazing. 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And then you guys start screaming sweet sweet sweet gene. Lamont pay the sorry mistake of standing in front of us. We were doing an interview with the local news station down in the dugout. Sweep will ferrell myself. Paul jason and gene lamont comes out to coach third base. Just doing his job but the name lamont is so fun to screen. And i didn't realize it until will ferrell started screaming. Hey la motte see it. Just rolls. He'd go this and he just got on and so when he started we all started and then it just became a never ending ev for the entire inning. We've just screamed nothing terrible because we're not rude taghi but it was just this bush league la. What are you doing. Lamont take that stuff back to detroit. Doesn't play here. Lamont simple stuff. But lamont was on the end of everything so we lay into him for about seven innings on. I'm not sure. But i think johnny damon might have been playing for the tigers that point and he would run by the dugout swayed. And it'd be like you lamont like yes because the only reason he's on third he was right in front of us. He was like twenty feet away from us. We just wrote them hard then on follow on slicks same thing. It was g lamont on third coaching third. And we'd just ride him. Relentlessly finally think year two of writing. Somebody whispered in his ear. By the way there's will farrell and these guys are in there. They're giving you a hard time and finally because we all we wanted was to acknowledge us at seventh inning of the he turned around and just looked at us and gave him like a head nod and it was as if we won the world series. We started screaming and jumping up down. We're waving our had the air and then we were so enamored with gene. We go out and seeing the seventh inning stretch. Take me out to the ball game yet. Right yeah and we ended now. You know we end. The song with gene. Lamont is not going to happen to them. That's going to happen it happens. Every dish is tradition but now he's part of the royals front office. This is the beautiful thing about coming full circle now. Now gene lamont. He's a royal he's on our side so we love him even more but when he used to come out we used to seeing like the death star march like darth vader. We'd do gene lamont. Gene la bonne gene lamont gene lamont gene. Lamont anything we could nothing. He gave us nothing but now he's royal so. We have racing with open arms. Now talk about love before. It was harassed. Yeah it was derision and no longer that just love gene lamont. Everybody virtual event is this saturday. Check it all out back on Richeisenshow if just got a few minutes to take you to brother from another and helping do that as always is either michael smith or michael holly and It was your turn this week. Michael holly thank you for joining. Hey man that is a really funny gene of this great new gene lamont would be tormented by will ferrell. But that's what happens in kansas city. what i tell you i i gotta gene lamont stories. It's not nearly as good as that one but it was quicker it's quicker you're not as good as upfront He used to be the manager of the chicago. White sox of course A rookie reporter with the akron beacon journal covering an indians white sox series They were both in nineteen ninety. Four right before the strike. They're both like neck and neck and then strike happened. So it's probably. It was july and White sox indians big rivalry. Albert bell hit a home run crushed it gene was like i'm calling bs on that no way. Nobody can hit a home run like opposite field. His bat is bad as court. So he's calling for the bat He's he's complaining about our belda indian. Figured i remember the story. Sure figure out that they want it the best they hit it. The bet that's what the umpires came in and took it back. Put down pires room and the indians were terrified because they knew it was a corked bat so they crawled into the ceiling. Crawls things found the umpire's room. They broke into the empire's room from the roof from the ceiling and they stole the bat and they eventually figured it out and suspended albert bell but that was He was he was so matter of fact he was like. Oh no there's no question. I don't care i don't care if they say it's not court. I know it's or watch baseball on time This is dirty die hard. you know. It's it's it's it's and that's why this whole concept of what pitchers are doing. Everybody knows everybody knows everybody in the league. I'm sure new it just that gene lamont had had enough and it cost his team that day and he's like screw it. I'm taking i'm doing this. Everybody knows everybody knows. Kelly which pitchers doing it. Everybody knows mike. you're right. here's the problem rich. The problem is this might be reckless to say. But okay i'll see you know it's it's my show. It's not yours. You can be less reckless on brother from a few minutes. I if there's any trouble often rich said that never said anything exactly about At least the steroid era was entertaining. Entertaining scandal louis got home runs. We got offense with this scandal. All we get is in a increase spin rate. I mean okay. So you you made it. Tell me you're gonna cheat so the league batting average could be to thirty. You know we got a bunch of strikeouts. Nobody pitches to contact. I mean that really fun. Why don't we get out of it as fans you know. What michael you're right. If you're gonna cheat entertain me in the process just like are you not entertained. The answer's no. We're not entertained. As a matter of fact we're pissed. You know i like it. You gotta be a cheater entertaining cheater. That's take away. michael has off. All the kids are in school. Still so Before i let you go. Because i know We were a bit late in getting to you because we were talking about Pita lonzo and all that stuff what is on brother for and other today who is on brother from another today. Who's on brought it from another today. We have our Our other brother from another Chris simms stop spy on thursday. I think i want to talk about. It's quarterback rankings. Okay he's got. He's he's great at this stuff. You know draft. He was awesome. No going over the positional groups quarterback rankings. I'm not so sure. I'm not so sure. what he's looking at but he's a good sport so we can kind of give him a hard time about that and we talk about the nba playoffs. Because i think tonight. I may have to concede rich I have been a grade. A brooklyn nets hater. And i'm not some surprising myself with this. I don't even know why. Have this st patriot for the brooklyn nets. But i'm gonna have to give it up If they they went tonight. I'm just going to have to concede. And say i find something else to be angry about. I know i know. I know That's a a big time. figurative If not almost literal do or die game for For the milwaukee bucks tonight. Thank you for the call. Send my best to Michael smith let's do this again next week sir. Yeah it's a big step for me personally tonight to you know i i have to make some admissions. I have to confess. I have to confess my sin. A good show have a good one. Thanks for the call. That's michael holly brother from another joining the nbc sports on peacock audience and vice versa. In about five minutes time we take it to his show along with michael smith everyday taking from dan. Patrick if you want to see the rich eisen show every day. And all the other shows that are The florio flout as we call it 'cause floreal begins and ends are day on nbc sports on peacock peacock tv dot com to get the rich eisen show and more rob demovsky. Malcolm jenkins appreciate a diner ruthenian. She just texted me. Photograph sent him to you. Teaches just tweeted them. Julio jones who said by the way just wait and see if anybody thinks that he spoke to the meter. anybody thinks he's said just Just you wait. Essentially kind of like the hamilton song. Speaking of which jimmy smits of in the heights is on tomorrow's show. We'll see you friday.

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Hour 4: No Harden, No Problem

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Hour 4: No Harden, No Problem

"G sanjay willing to the podcast. That's absolutely just dominate. The bucks in the first two games of the series we thought would be a really entertaining so far it has not been. It's barely lasted less. That was over. Three quarters really was over in the first quarter way that run win and kevin durant j. Kevin durant is in a place right now. That is just if you're a basketball fan. If you're a sports fan you gotta love watching an athlete in that kind of where he is right now. All things considered he might not want to talk about where he was two years ago with the achilles but the rest of us of course remember that because it was such a moment in the finals to see literally seeing the achilles snap seeing him on the court and then seeing come back and play at the level. He's playing right now. I mean it's it's remarkable i. Kevin durant is not kevin durant and lucy goes to golden state and he had feel about what that culture was right. I think a lot of people use that argument against him. You know you could make a look in the business decision. Look you've got make the right decision for you. I mean do you want to be like dame because dame is still stuck in portland and dame hasn't won a championship all we talk about individual greatness where we talked about when his name going to win a chance. Great conversation to have about k. D. and a great conversation to have with sarah stock. Who's from the yes network nets analyst rate job wall-to-wall nets coverage by the way by the yet the yes network's nets team throughout this playoffs. And good morning sarah. Thanks for joining us. Good morning guys. It's great to be with you. I want to ask very obvious question. But it's it's just a setup for it as we were just talking about kevin durant and how it's been over two years since that injury and really for the nets they sign him. He doesn't play for a whole year. He misses a ton of time. But i would have to say that at this point. Seven games into this playoff. Run worth the wait. Oh it's allen hard to come up with words adding more to describe his level of play the efficiency and just the absolute. I mean we saw a peak last night but this has been consistent. He has a level of ferocity and grace that he brings to the game That right now feels unmatched. He can get anywhere he wants to go on the floor You could talk any defender at him and it just last night Watching this is watching his movements and watching the way that you could tell he was just loving every minute. I think just the joy you saw and the collective nature of the team and how play top to bottom i. It was really special. So as a hooper yourself somebody who can appreciate the nuances of the game. You've seen a lot of basketball your student of the game. Listen to you on the yes network all the time. Would you rank kevin durant among the greats. Jay you're coming with the tough questions saying we're we're getting into it on time. Debase the who. Listen to our great what she does fine. You don't have to tell me. I know No that that. That's an excellent question. Which i'm not prepared at this point to give you a number. I also win. I i know we love these discussions about ranking grace Someone completes their career. I sometimes have a hard time of where you're inserting them To see the complete resume of what they've done what they've accomplished however when it comes up totally void your question. Gee i love you. But when it comes to we just he he is one of what. He's so unique with his size with his skill set. also what we've been seeing out of him on the defensive end of the floor and no there were so many questions of what he was like coming back from injury and this is just the beginning. You think about how his game will translate. Not just what. We're seeing this season but seasons to come i you can't. He can get anywhere he wants to go but it could shoot over every and he pours so much into his game In terms of this isn't the by accident that he is shooting this type of clip from the field and in from the three point line it's passing continues to improve So i don't know. I j i can't give you a solid answer but when you guys have me on next i'll bust out my list of ranking but but but for me for me he's getting up there he's definitely getting up there and i think this postseason well add a lot to that if the nets can complete their their vision and their goal for what they have this year in in a couple of seasons com sir. How difficult would it be for the nets to go steal one. In milwaukee without james horton in the lineup. I think that's a great question because as much of a Dismantling it was last night at barclays. And i did not. I don't know if anyone would ventilated. But i really thought folks we're gonna come with a changed and adjusted level of intensity and aggression given the fact that that first game you get thrown off. Little walkie has a full week preparing for eighteen. That accused the big three which aims harden. They did not see the big three throughout the course of the regular season and especially in that and then he series at two games down the stretch of the season. So you think okay. Now they have a day in between to readjust to what the roster and the lineup is gonna look like did not see that however. I don't think you can overreact. Because while it was a thirty nine point win It's just counts for a win and every player to a man brooklyn said they were supposed to do We'll see what milwaukee has. I think it's going to be a huge challenge. Keyshawn to say to say the least James harden has been so integral to how the team operate so we saw the reflection of that in the way. The nets played But i i do anticipate and hope for at least two to continue to watch basketball. Is we love it and enjoy it. some adjustments to be made on the part of milwaukee and and what. You're going to get from honest young defending two time. Mvp a player and a team that was constructed and put together to try to not flame out postseason like they did the last two years. The mental aspect and the mental component is going to be in my perspective. One of the biggest factors Because to me this brooklyn team last night looked like what they were trying to do. with not just strategically crushed the milwaukee bucks and looked like they were trying to mentally break them and for one night. They did circus. Start joining us here. On the goodyear hotline yes network nets analysts is a net zero two games to nothing right now in their series with the bucks at shifts to milwaukee and one other player that i really find remarkable right now for the nets especially what we saw in game two and the first two games of the series is blake griffin. And i keep thinking. Sarah i think larry johnson and how larry johnson had to transform his game due to injuries and became more post player below the rim player but a very effective and every now and then he can still remind you of the grandma how at least blake griffin the two dunks he had but knocked down threes. What is what are you seeing out of the transition of his game from what. He was in lob city with the clippers to compared to what he's become for. The nets lake is locked in. I mean if if you wanna talk about the one. Individual for as many highlight plays that kevin cavalry had had a feeling like for a while and barclays center. The place erupted when blake griffin. Had a couple of those dunks and so much of it was predicated on the ball movement. But i think the thing that we they overlook with lake Just how things sad is detroit in the bio everything. Up to it was two years ago he was an all. Nba player has a knee. injury All of you can speak to this as being athletes. There's a different level of focus. I think you are competing for a title as opposed to you know. Maybe what the circumstance was like with the pistons in for as much as we've seen a little bit of a high flying nature out of like the smart of the game that maturity that composure. How he knows there. There's so much. Improvisation that comes with us. Nets offense and how he knows when to set the screen. How do you space The feel the instincts getting on the floor. I mean i. i've seen like hit the ground. More than i think any other player diving for loose balls to hustle plays and even when you go back to when he was playing on one leg and took that pistons team too. I got swept by the bucks in that season He was used to guarding on us. I was a part of what he did. And so you know the one thing that jumps out as well is how he's been able to help slow down and defend honest and the circumstance and nothing that one through five switching team. I think a lot of that. His his invited More isolation and maybe a lack of ball movement from milwaukee and help mitigate some of that that ought of adding dunker spot and players that they're moving along the baselines but overall. I just think i'm from lake. I've top of the fact that you know. He didn't really have a great series against boston. He attributed nash attributed to being kind of a match up in a bad match up for him But then. I think they're correcting questions of. Oh maybe make maybe blake is kind of getting toward that tail end and he has come out looking really really special and fouled up a big night in terms of production in game one with just doing all the little things and then having some banners last night in game. It's like he had to remind people that's usually what happens. Some of those guys. The great ones always tend to do that. Sarah we appreciate your insight. And i guess next time. Just be prepared for jada throw that so we power rank everything here on this show. We get list. Everybody's got a standing. I just get me in the studio studio. I'll have a powerpoint for god will do. Thanks sarah couscous. Goodyear hollering remember. Sarah and the rest of the nets team has wall-to-wall nets coverage throughout the postseason. And by the way before we get into this conversation next from green bay rob demovsky who we love to talk to a great job covering the packers weaving in and he nick's topic there. I felt like it. It was larry justice a perfect example so terrible in nick's topic i said you had to just we've in a knick that's all larry johnson was not comparable would you make to blake. Griffin's doing going from a high fine layer two more women say anything was wrong with comparison. I just said you had always low angle different holidays with very difficult. Go ahead sell. That's the more that worked out for a lot of people the years. I'm gonna turn the husky now because i really enjoy rob. I love having him on. He's very insightful. And he's not difficult to work with rob good morning. i guess. those are all k- qualities. Well they're okay but very important. It's all about character and culture and it's really about the people rob. It's about keeping horton around here. So what i hear. So what we what we know what we expect is that aaron rodgers will not be mandatory camp. Starting today correct. I is that confirmed at least can we say definitely not come. Yes i was told. He is in Southern california as we speak. So he's not gonna make it on time. I don't think so. I'm sitting outside lambeau field right now and i don't see any Fast flying jets like over To get to the airport you can always just pick up camp and say wherever you are. Aaron that's what we're going to have camp just to accommodate you. Peter king had a really interesting column that we were kicking around earlier. Coming up with ways you can broker a deal between the two sides. Can you see something happening along the lines of sitting down. And just what do you need. What do you want. And let's just do this even if it's just for one more year why i think they tried that. I mean we know. A adam schefter reported and the packers have confirmed that at various points this off season. Guys mark murphy. The team president and general manager. Brian good coach. The floor all made separate trips to meet with rogers throughout the spring to try to hammer something out and here. We are with nothing You know Palatable to him. So i at this point. I'm just not sure what the solution is. That would have him playing for the green bay packers whether it's even just for one more year I just don't see that there is anything that they can do unless They just him out and we get too late july august and and he somehow changes his mind because they've certainly tried all that stuff and to this point at least as we sit here dave. Nothing has worked. Rob the four top returning wide receivers for the green bay packers. Yeah did not go to as which. Ota's whatever as far as i'm concerned but they will be at mandatory minicamp this week with jordan love for the first time how. How is that going to help. Jordan love convince the green bay packers that he's the guy going forward. Yeah that's a great question. A great point because to this point love is not had a chance to work with those guys. Not only this year. But you think about last summer. He was the number three quarterback during the brief training camp that they had which means. You're not throwing too as you know. Not throwing those guys. You're throwing it in undrafted rookies and then guys who may or may not even make the team To this point to ota practices. And i can tell you this that that george love is definitely looked better. The ball's coming out With more zip on it but he still favors the dump off the check down. Whatever you wanna call it to the running back. In fact there was one eleven eleven period last week where there was a seven play stretch. He threw it to the running back six times And that's that's without obviously facing alive. Pass rush so what. I'm curious to see. Starting today is with davante adams and company now here is he willing and able to push the ball down the field a little bit more now. The packers will tell you that they like to see jordan. Love going through the progressions and that means he's truly understand the offense but i don't think they want If if he has to play this year. I don't think they want to average you know two yards per Air completion this this season. That's not what they wanna do. Offensively let me ask you this though if he had to play and it didn't go as well as it went a year ago who who ultimately will the green bay packer faithful blame. Yeah that's i mean. I think it's a great question. It's it's probably you know the general manager because he's the guy who brought love here You know Matla florida's coaching staff. Probably were never Expected to get him ready to play in in two thousand and twenty one. You know i will say this. They were thirteen three last year and made the nfc championship game. When when brett farve last year in two thousand eight they were coming off a thirteen and three nfc championship game. Last season and aaron rodgers first year as a starter. They went six and ten now. They only won six games but it was pretty apparent during that season that rogers was going to be pretty. Good so You know stay. They may not win a lot of games next year. But it all. It's all really depended more on how love looks if only went six or seven games and love plays pretty well. you know. it's not a disaster. They only went six or seven games. Love this is mediocre at best. You know then it's a big problem. Ramblas say the latter happens. If you're davante adams how worried about how worried are you about your numbers not being where you need them to be so you could negotiate against so you would not get the type of money that you expect to get well. That's a great question too. But i think he's proven that he's gonna get those. He's going to get the money whether he has. You know one hundred ten catches this year. Yeah sixty five. I mean if people are smart in the league. You know if quarterbacks not good enough doesn't matter who's out there but jerry rice out there and he's knockabout you could put you put key out there and he's not going to get a fifteen hundred yards. I mean it's just you know. The quarterback is such a big part of it. We all know how good devante. I don't think anybody thinks it's just the product of you know because he has aaron rodgers quarterback. Does that help. Absolutely does he have an incredible rapport with him. I mean look at those back shoulder throws the you know that seemingly are just incredibly time i mean yeah. There's obviously a big part That the quarterback plays in that. But nobody and and key. You could probably you know. Speak to this more. But i don't know if there's a receiver in the league who's better getting. Off the line of scrimmage then devante adam. I'm i haven't seen one. Maybe maybe you have but i certainly have no. He does an amazing job of working out. Which ironically with keith williams in the offseason who is now the passing game coordinator receiver slash coach of the baltimore ravens so he works with todd tyreek hill and neither one of them could be touched getting off the ball. Stand up to what worked with Former packers james jones another northern california guy devante so yeah very familiar to the packers fans rob what a what a what a packer players saying right now between you and us. What are they saying the world war right now. They're saying like we support erin. He deserves this. He deserves that. But i mean the reality is. That's that's fine to say that in june but if it looks like he's not gonna be here and it's late august and september and they're getting ready to go to the new orleans saints week one and and you don't have your guy here. I mean i do wonder if at some point players sorta. I don't wanna say turn on erin but but starts to say man. He's he's he's putting us in a bad spot. Now you know right now. It's easy to support him. But i i wonder and you guys have been in professional locker rooms in a different role than i have. At some point you players say man you know. Now it's it's going to hurt us now. It doesn't hurt us in june but it could hurt us. It's a temple and rob and unite both know. Well that the more you ask that question the more tired of it they get right. They don't hit and he's leaving us to answer questions for him that we can't answer a don't want to any doubt and that starts to wear on people so mark murphy is one guy that you know. At least we heard from recently which is from his newsletter on packers dot com. And just curious if your take about him taking a question that never even referenced. Aaron rodgers basically telling me he's done a great job and don't let these guys bring you down and then suggesting a new name for the washington football team very innocent thing and for mar to use that as a way to discuss aaron rodgers saying he's divided our fan base. Which you've told us about that already several times and we've talked but then him adding that that you know the committing to be resolved resolving these with aaron wannabe our quarterback and wants to resolve the situation. You know that the both sides say publicly the better. We'll market doing this in a public forum. Kind of sitting here very interesting. Pr move At first i thought why in the heck you see creating another issue here by saying that. He's divided the fans But the more. I thought about it. I wondered if it wasn't more just to put pressure on rogers saying hey look if you don't realize it now maybe you should that not all the fans are are for you And i wondered if that was his is mo. and i think. I told you guys when i was on last time. I saw this one sign around town. That said aaron go pack and you guys know packers fans always say go pack as in go you know do well and this is a a fan and a yard. The yard signs saying aaron. Go pack your bags to pack up and get out of town. So i just wondered if that was mark's way of sort of tweaking rogers a little bit saying hey man if you care about one thing it's your legacy here and your legacy may be You know losing some steam here with with the fantasies for the last time this week. It until next week. Aaron rodgers. play the cre- bay packers this year. I do not think he will ever play for the packers again. Guys i. I just don't see how he walks this back And it just comes back and say you know. I'm just kidding. Let's go play and try to win. I just i. I've not seen anything since adams initial report came out to suggest that anything has changed Great stuff as always. We enjoy talking with you. Thanks so much all right all right guys. we'll be got it rob demovsky. Espn packers reporter for their last time. That many camp right now. I know there so it can be now. Officially confirmed wonder what he's doing. Aaron rodgers kicking it this hour now. Is he watching us on. Espn news land. If you are watching us right now call he's not gonna call in these chillan. No but what is not not remark. Murphy's newsletter you might not be reading sitting at home in california six thirty in just sitting there like laughing off. everybody is cooking. Breakfast is he. What do you call a driver playing golf. No one will you hit it. Yes driver yes. He's driving the hitting the driver out on the t. Box at the driving range. The driving range the driving. Is he at the driving range right now. I just love hearing you. can we do a whole segment. You talking about golf. Just lease all just your morning. Better fifty degree Sixty degree. What's your anger. what your wedge the wedge do a nine iron right. Yeah yes loft issue big walk. I'm serious. I wonder what he's doing it out before as a rookie. You pay attention. yeah. I was reading so crazy. I was in hawaii my rookie year exclusively. Yeah hawaii rookie. You're sitting out. Yeah right before semi rookie contract. Just chilling away on vacation. Sure why everybody's it training. I love your rookie year like year. So i'm going to hawaii. Oh so office conversation and onto more but nets in game two. That's next k. j. z. On espn radio and the espn app. Kevin durant up to thirty points in game. Number two is the box been bewildered to start the series and brooklyn rubbing as playoff win in franchise history more from keyshawn jay williams zubin. Next as red robbins voice-over artist here to explain bottomless. How do i get across free refills on fries and drinks. Well here goes bottomless at red. 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The handles with the right hand cross drives traffic watson as he goes across the end line. Thirty two for katie. Final seconds of the third middleton's contested. Three no good. And the brooklyn nets will take a thirty point lead over milwaukee to the fourth quarter and they will take that to a thirty nine point win over the box the call by marquess her on. Espn is the nets. Beat the bucks. One twenty five eighty six in game two to ticket to nothing lead in their second round series k. d. continuing his stellar postseason scored thirty two points. That's what he's averaging right. Now in the postseason thirty two points per game fourth most in the last four seasons in a place i seven. Playoff games with the franchise durant and kyrie irving combined score or assists on eighty of the hundred twenty-five point scored by brooklyn to the other new york team. The new york knicks head coach. Tom dibitetto named nba's coach of the year. It was the second time in his career. It's been a decade apart. First time around was the chicago bulls so he's a third knicks coach to win coach. The the i pat riley in nineteen ninety-three red holzman also won it in nineteen. Seventy joins gregg popovich. Mike budenholzer only active coaches. When coach the twice that includes current assistant coach. Mike d'antoni he's also won it twice former giants head coach. Jim fossil was passed away at the age of seventy one his son. John confirmed that to the los angeles times on monday. Who's head coach of the giants from nineteen ninety seven to two thousand three god of the team to three playoff berths that includes a trip to the super bowl. He was named the. Nfl's coach of the year in nineteen ninety seven. Fifty eight fifty three in one overall with the giants. One of two head coaches for the giants with a winning record in the last thirty years the other tom kaufman. One or two and ninety sportscenter brought to you by good. You're good you're not from here on out. Every game is a chance to create momentum to make the right past the right. Move it the perfect shot. It takes momentum to get through the playoffs. It takes everything to capture a title goodyear more driven kevin durant and kyrie irving they signed with with moments like this time a second other times that keep being not over onto rape. It's just a clinic every way possible. Today's a team with the other side of the nets absolutely dominant in their first two games against the bucks a series guys that we thought would be maybe the most entertaining the best most competitive series and so far mark missed the mark by. Nobody thought they were beat them. By close to fifty last. This was an absolute. I mean just dominant performance by the nets continued to knock down the three ball. Twenty-one a franchise record in the place anyone threes made and really just an incredible spectacle and again the great story kevin durant and what he looks like two years removed from when he he injured his achilles. Before you get to our next guest is say it again. Nobody thought they would win. By close to fifty i. We're saying they were up conference semifinals. It really is just again when you think about how fast that game felt like. It was over after tipped off. There's no doubt about it key. Jay zubi presented by progressive insurance ryan. Ruko joins us right now in the goodyear hotline from the s network of course also from. Espn as well rooks. Good morning so. I mean watching last night. Not only that first quarter but just how that game went and how fast it got away into a blowout. I mean you no one expected you expect the nets to do what they're doing because they still even with james harden have two great scores. But you couldn't possibly expect the bucks to lay for a second straight game. Yeah man. I mean that was. That was stunning. That performance was stunning. And i even think from nets perspective even though they still have obviously kyri in k. d. and it's pretty good when you lose one hall of famer to still have to on the floor really three potentially with griffin right. But i still think it's surprising because if you watch the nets. During the regular season the player who influence wins and losses most but horn away was james harden so in harden went down for everyone. Who's watched this team day in day out. It was a huge blow. Not just because it's james harden but because he was the piece that seemingly made everyone better and all you have to look at the record with or without you know they were able to go one thousand nine hundred and four over the twenty three games in a row that k. d. missed because mainly of the way james harden was playing but when the nets move the ball and when they play with defensive intensity there they're just ridiculous and that's what we saw last night. I mean completely unselfish that think about kyrie irving. He can manipulate the basketball. The can break people down last night. I mean other than the first quarter when he was you know getting his. The ball was in his hands for a second at a time. He was just moving it like a hot potato when he's doing that. And everybody's playing that unselfishly. They're really hard to beat. An no walkie is gonna. I'm sure be much more confident on their home floor but it was surprising to see just how poorly they played after how well they played against miami. And just remember you know before we got into bubble milwaukee did have one of the best home court advantages. There wasn't basketball so we'll see how that plays out. But i wanted to say these numbers to your ryan and get you to react to them. I'm asking you to rank em is asking you to put this into context from what we've seen about where he stands in the game of basketball kevin durant fifty five percent from the field fifty percent the three point line ninety percent from the free throw line fifty five fifty ninety three two points per game. Where where do you put him. In context of the greats. I mean he's just a completely unique asset right. I mean he is his own entity. And i think he had joe harris. On and cc's podcasts are to see to a few weeks ago and he said you know they don't even let you make players like k. D. and to k anymore. And that. I think it's maybe the best context for how ridiculous he is. I mean you guys see it. There were times last night. And i thought grant hill pointed out nicely where you know. Whoever was matched up on k. D. on a given possession. The one i'm thinking of it happened to be drew. Holiday did everything. He could do defensively but it doesn't matter when you're seven feet you can raise up and shoot with the kind of efficiency that kevin durant can and the other thing i think two guys and i think we've seen this manifest in different ways throughout the play offices and j you know this. The playoffs are a completely different sport than regular season basketball. And especially now that we have crowds there again and there are some guys who thrive off it and there are some guys who aren't used to it and don't know how to handle it and kevin durant thrives off of it and that's what we've seen in the playoffs thus far ryan how will has blake griffin settled into his new role since coming from detroit and incredibly. Well keyshawn. i mean he. He's been he's been fantastic. First of all what he's been given the nets from three in this series is fantastic. And it puts milwaukee a real bind right now with brooke lopez's on the floor but blake. I think more than anything else would he brought to the nets with some of the nitty gritty. Physicality that they were lacking. And we've seen that manifest in the charges that he's taken you know. Blake led the league and chargers taken but the nets actually led the league in charges taken from the time blake join them through the rest of the season whereas they had been twenty third in the nba. Before he got there. And i think when you see in establish vet who has had some physical issues willing to put his body on the wine the way the blake griffin is. I think that makes an impact not to mention. We've seen the man can still don't too so i he's brought a he's brought a little bit of everything and he's just fit in perfectly with this. Nazis wanted to remind everybody to don't forget. I could still do this. You got a couple of ruko. Join us right now. On the goodyear hotline espn nba play by play. Call also on the network as well and you mentioned the are are to see to podcast. You do with ccc bath you. So i can't let you go without asking you a couple yankee questions here because short normally with the yankees and where they are right now fourth place in the al east and it's getting late to be early as one great yankee one said normally we talked pitching right. It's always about the pitching it's always about you know. Do they have enough starting. But they're twenty. Six and runs scored twenty six batting average twenty second and opie s thirteenth in even home runs which is what they're built to do it. Is this style this team. In the way they're built right now is is the roster. The problem is it now. More about the how the roster is built is is flawed and it needs to be completely rethought a little bit. I think the thing. I thought watching the playoffs last year. Was i thought this team needs to get a little better defensively. A little more athletic and they need someone who's more contact oriented. Because i thought they had a few too many of the same type of hitters in their lineup. But when i thought about that. I really thought about it. Just in the context of them getting through october and getting through the play offs. I still thought they'd be able to match their way to october. But they haven't been able to and you know part of the reason could be. You know a perfect confluence of events when it comes to you. Know the increase the spin rate from pitchers and we know the illegal substances. Just dominant pitching this year. And then the new baseballs with less drag and fewer home runs and so now offense built around. Mashing and homers is having a much tougher time but then part of it also is just incredible underperformance from pieces. You would not expect it from i mean. Dj lemay who has had his powers zapped. This is somebody who is their best player. The last two years on a team with incredible offensive performance. Dj lemay you is their mvp two years in a row and right now. He's a to sixty hitter with. No power is one extra base hit since may seventh. It's a shocking turn. And i do wonder how much of their offense changes if dj started performing like what we had seen and gleyber torres got some of his slug back. This is due to hit. Thirty eight homers. And right now. He's gotten his average going a little bit new. Come up with some big hits but he's just not slugging anywhere near what we're used to so i do think a lot of their regular season problems probably wouldn't be coming up if those guys were performing like they normally do but i still think there is some flaw in the construction especially as it comes to trying to have different paths to victory when you're navigating with your line up through oct if they moved. Dj in the lineup. The won't you get a better. He may be put in a better position to get the average up. Yeah i think you know. It's funny a lot of times i'm like. Hey don't own overreact. It's a long season. Sky has been so stable there. I think the yankees are in need of some kind of change. If for no other reason to be able to mentally point to something say okay. That's the day something changed. And now we're a new team from that point forward a lot of times we see that at the trade deadline as well right where it's like okay new acquisition or even the turning of a calendar sometimes an mba. Hey we struggled until jan one but boom now now we've found rhythm and you kind of turn the page mentally and it does have some sort of tangible effect on team. I would be all in favor for shaking up the lineup in any way possible just to try and jolt these guys into feeling like okay. We've turned a page and into finding some kind of rhythm. Because right now they they do feel like they need some sort of injection. Some sort of change you can see it and teams aren't afraid of him. Either they've tampa bay certainly has made that abundantly clear routes always great to catch up with you man. Thanks so much. I love you guys keep up. The great work are w great. Ryan ruko on goodyear hotline. All right so coming up next getting line caller in at eight say. Espn eight seven nine. 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So he'll be in alabama through the twenty twenty-eight season how twenty seventy eight years old he'll be seventy eight at the end of the contract. Yeah that's fine with that. And he turned seventy this october. Yeah he his birthday's on halloween. By the way here's how about that. Take about fifteen halloween nick. Saving fifteen seasons at alabama and. It'll continue to twenty twenty-eight and average salary by the way ten million a year that's all yes not nothing better than ninety percent. nfl coaches. that's not enough house. Throw nothing but they need to give me more though. They need he needs. What does that twenty one income. Is that football team for the state. That's what i'm saying a lot tremendous. Me's one of those guys in sports that you can't yell value. Yeah you could see what he does and when we're having football we're having. Oh yes that's right well towns. Are there supporting system is based off football. Pretty much economically. And you know what we are having colette right now. It's brought to you by napa whether it's next day delivery or getting involved in their communities local communities napa goes above and beyond deserve you because they're motor never quits that's napa know how let's spin it line to the one game. Make good while you trust the guy. I'm workplace bradley. Beal moran point in legal so maybe big blue so you bring in john moran instead of bradley beal on your team. We made earlier in the show. A team of a five-man team of players that are still in the playoffs versus players. Who were eliminated in the playoffs and we argue that. The players eliminated as better team. Yeah people on social media really going hard on. This one here shocking. Very no anthony davis come on. It's a championship. Yeah john moran. I prefer bradley bill But if you wanna rock with john moran but that's cool too that's why we get your opinion spin it. Line three line. Three kenny here from kentucky named after the great kenny skywalker from the real sake. Blue nation. okay. They will all right bernie say well the best The best collegiate player in my lifetime. I'll get credit for that Got two points to make. Lebron has to play the one in eighty to play the five. That's why they wanna tidal last year Secondly the lakers defensive efficiency okay. We'll break these numbers down for you with lebron on the court one. Oh sixty cents one. Oh four when he's off the court to point slide offense rating one. Oh seven point seven when he's on and you guys guess what. The lakers often rating is when he's also court. Oh he's trying like ninety something. Eighty something seventy five people understand defense offensive rating is points possessions like those. Wow drastic different. This is the yeah. That's how important is to his team. That's how important is your team. I understand you're well aware that but you're still putting the statue behind the building. Though back by the fact that no won championship does not get you a statute your kitchen name. In the concrete get repeated a city. He wants to before he gets to statue. You get one here not too and give you a building to to start thinking about the backside of the line five brandon from nashville based on what we've seen from the books are based on what we've seen from the books in the series i. It's like what do you think of the bucks at this point life. They're about to get swept. they don't have an answer for the nets like amp. They do this series. Like what do they do to get over the hawk. 'cause obviously they can't get over the i'll tell you what i think. They are who we thought they were. That's what i think you do anything nothing to do. But running back again in maybe one or two other little pieces you add but you can't all of a sudden destroy a new coach. Maybe you do something like that. I remember when many years ago when the clippers had vinnie as their coach Don't grow del negro. And then they brought doc rivers but essentially was the same thing it turned into the same thing at the end. They didn't get over. The hump vinnie was taking them to the playoffs. You want to say they don't have don demetrio but you see and lose by forty laughing. It won't really matter. They got no no. It's just hard to defend that teams but one line six corey from new york. What's up. aj will. I got a question for you What a young day will would he be able to guard trae young. And how would you guard him and shot him down. I don't know if i will be able to guard him. I know buckets on them. I can tell you that offensively. But i think i think defensively man i would. I would try to build out a scheme. Where look the person put on them. You have the garden the full length of the court. You have to make him work and attack him. Defensively make him tire. Put him in foul trouble but just haven't seen anybody do that. Yes they get the ball out of his hand because ball getting the ball back and also attack him. Get him invaluable. He's done that yet. It's interesting we gotta see. What philly does tonight. Because that's going to be. I mean whatever you did not fourth quarter. You gotta figure it out if you can do that for forty eight minutes. That's difficult to do so confirmed you're both coming with me to the islanders. If they get to the stanley start working on those planes. Going confirmed confessed already. Told you what i need. No things i just eat the yes. You're going horrible gladys goody next tomorrow do you rent your home. Sure you do. Fortunately geico makes it easy to bundle your home and car insurance. It's a good thing too. Because having a home is hard work go to geico dot com. Get a quote and see how much you could save. Geico dot com easy.

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PMS 2.0 434 - Feel Good Friday, Darius Butler, AJ Hawk, Michael Cole, Rob Demovsky

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PMS 2.0 434 - Feel Good Friday, Darius Butler, AJ Hawk, Michael Cole, Rob Demovsky

"What's up everybody. It is friday june eleventh. You are listening to the pat mcafee. Show two point zero once again. Pat had to run over to smackdown to get ready for tonight's show eight. Pm on fox still show today. We're in the dog days of summer right now. There's not really a whole lot to talk about. We have darius butler. Join us down here in tampa. Aj hawk joins the show. Michael cole stops by for a little bit. Packers beat writer bob. Demovsky stops by to give a little clarity on the aaron rodgers situation. If you like the show be a friend tell friend if not just act like you never heard it. We appreciate the hell out of you guys. Let's get into it wrapping up the week. That was plus some new topics to talk about. Like for instance. The western conference in eastern conference finals are happening in the nhl is down to the final four teams on who will be taking home. Lord stanley's top. The vegas golden knights move to the western conference finals last night after beating the colorado avalanche in the colorado avalanche. Just a couple of weeks ago. We're at plus one fifty to win the stanley cup. Everybody else was at plus five hundred or more. The colorado avalanche won six straight games to launch themselves into this twenty twenty one playoff run and then all of a sudden after going up to against the vegas golden knights. Marc andre fleury. Stunner in the boys decided that they were not going to lose a game again. Vegas golden knights win three getting to the finals against the canadians on the west coast over there. I guess i don't know where montreal is. It's over there. Northwest is it up above. Dakota's is it as near the dakotas. You think more like. Nah okay michigan well. What about right there. Above wisconsin dare to is it up there above wisconsin manitoba saskatoon. Uc see in anyways and in the tampa bay lightning city. We're in let's go bolts a or go pulled the team that might be kissed by the hockey gods right now the new york islanders where everything seems to be going their way they just brutalize the bruins and then they took out the best team in hockey the pittsburgh penguins in their first round here. We go any joe. Congratulations as still happening. Obviously we'll talk some about that today. A guy that got caught beaten his meat on zoom call in front of his co workers is back on television talking about it. We have to talk about that. You know welcome back jeff. Toobin stared down the face of awkwardness. Just stare to rate down and said put me back on tv. What are you gonna do mattel. Why been doing last seven. What you want us to talk about what had happened. Metoo after are we not journalists here. Yeah y'all do it all right. Well i'm gonna have to say everything that happens. Is that right. Yeah you got to do it in my answer. This lady on cnn said hey so let's take a let's take these people back through rate to jeff toobin space. Let's say he's people back. Your zoom call to new yorker place. You're twenty seven years and you start beating the shit out of your penis right in front of everybody uber. Bopping the hell out of your thing down there. It was caught it was live it went viral. You got fired now. What if what have you. How are you. That's kind of how good for him. He talked about therapy and giving back becoming better human and then even cut a promo. Yeah cut a promo and also writing a book by the way if you want to hear that so jeff toobin stepped right back into the batter's box good for him. Good luck out there There is a lot of questions about where his penis had potentially been popped. Right into that right. I mean you know some people are saying. Hey he did this once on zoom in. That's terrible but then a lot of people are saying. Where else is this guy. Been smacking his bologna around the office for the last twenty seven years darius j butler Joining us on his feel good. Friday shot to cbd md Live from the fan though. Beach down here in tampa embarrass the soon as we heard about this problem me personally. I knew it was a white. Okay say through a white sure no way. But that's very nice. Okay he just lived out a lotta guys probably nightmares. Yeah i mean you literally you know you gotta put some thomas side you know when you work on demand. I mean it was the middle of the day you know. So maybe you know you saw wolf of wall street in executive world. I don't know how often they are just absolutely slaughtering themselves. That's what in what wall street. It's in the same speech where he added that whole speech where he goes. It's a ferris wheel. Basically you just keep them on the right. He actually says. Hey how you rookie number. So i don't know what these executives do okay in somebody's twenty seven years at new yorker assume he and i would never ever been friends ever. I know nothing about him in. Who knows how much it want. That guy is like this is normal up. There is that why is that. Why they're like okay. Let's get them back on. Tv let's go ahead and dress head on. It is a one o'clock in the afternoon. Mid zoom coal spank sess-. Is that something that just everybody's like you know what you gotta do. What you gotta do. I did not know. People were just slaughtering themselves mayday at the desk that in the executive corporate world. What are you guys doing over there. That's what i assume that. It's a high stress high. You know the situation. I need to relieve myself. But also i mean i have no qualms with spank in your baloney at one pm. Just say your stomach's act guys probably got his own private bathroom diarrhea. He'll be back in twenty five minutes. He probably got jersey. The one that grabbed the lotion and walked all the way back over to the call. Do you remember that there was. There was numerous people that was different. Remember that all jeff. Stevens back on tv on cnn. Just everybody knows. I've found out about that via clay travis. Tweet that one viral because clay travis dot on cnn one time and he said he liked boobs or third. One i men. Maybe say we're not sure which one probably not the thirteenth event. That was not going be the one. He was talking about on tv but he talked about the boobs. One he got banned in his tweet is saying. I got banned for saying boobs. This particular tweet said this particular segment said Hey sir you in front of people you've known for twenty plus years in a very prestigious meeting. You went ahead and just you ends up of japan's Sir you you. You had bear but cheeks on your see. Yeah right in front of all of us and You spit in your hand sir tweets all you do that and then you want to town on yourself. Hold you grow from out of a pandemic into this guy whitman. I'm interested in those therapy. Says what kind of therapy session. Well he started to a food bank or something like that to better person. Question therapy sessions. I mean let's not forget papa. John's work pictures vocabulary. So i'll tell you what the old whites okay and it's not all obviously in that is i feel like i use the term a lot and i don't want every odor white to think they are associated with it. But i'll tell you what there's a specific of voter white that has found themselves in some fucking ridiculous is it's been very fascinating to watch jeff. Toobin back on tv and come back. Jeff locke man that is that is like nightmare. Though i think right now we're one five probably getting caught doing it and then having to do a follow up interview on about i. It doesn't matter what this guy does for the rest of his life really does he could probably cure cancer and be like. Oh yeah. you're that guy who's smacking his balloon around. I mean jeff to that. I think you could rewrite your entire history. I hope he does. You might be a lot more relatable to a lotta people you never know there. Sounds like sounds like you pretentiousness. People that may be. Hey tubes here i go. I'm he took it shame. Shame shame. Imagine your first day back all right. Let's revisit just in case anybody missed it. A world who you are. Hey but he's back. Mel welcome back shot. Cnn though like you know saying hey the standards of standard here. We are going to take advantage of every situation with active. Possibly become in the art of news or whatever. And it's just happens to be you today do it. So we're gonna put you in there and you're gonna be uncomfortable but we're gonna have to address it and we'll move on right. Sound good got tubes like i've seen it all please. Have you seen my twitter. Mentioned your life for the last seven months. Probably what was that zito. What was that. Sita's out something back there. I think he said something about cookies. Talking about it's twitter at least the tape laptop cam. O- smart smart jeff. I should pivot and used this. I mean make them the face of like flashlights or something because even the thing that does cover the oh. Yeah hand lotion. Maybe juerg this guy. This guy could potentially run. That's three different buckets right there. You talked about the sex industry. The moisturizing industry also the security industry with the thing the cover up the tubes could be out here maybe flipping this thing into a massive ordeal but happy tubes congrats. I mean absolute stooge. Dumb ass can kick. that's going. I mean that happens a lot of people but to step back in a battery There is what's that let jeff beaches jesusa this show this show as we're only covering it because it's news but that was not supposed to be as big of a part of the beginning of that show. We found out about that this morning moments before we go live. I'm not sure how human i guess. Jeff toobin singing the same thing. I'm not sure how he is supposed to want to do this if they got the urge or whatever but for me. I'm not sure how. I was supposed to talk about that for the first seven to eight minutes of a of the show that you have your on a friday a soon as i. What an absurd time to be alive. Just absolutely absurd. Time to be alive darius butler happy you got a chance to tell jeff tubes out there. Maybe the futures a little bit brighter for that guy flipping. Make a good to make it work for you. Russell wilson This big news. Though that was going to lead off. Today's russell wilson had to address the off season. I was around the time tubes beaten as a roughly around there. I don't remember exactly because gordon months all kind of blend together. You know. I think we all remember like beginning days ago. Gay tiger king then like towards the end whenever there was wave three four common. I mean they all kind of blend together but during that quarantine for a pretty good chunk not a majority of the subaru. Pretty good junket was russell wilson peak arrowhead each other russell wilson things the offensive line Seattle stinks terror. Russell wilson's team. The chefs massage therapist. The cardio people the strength people the bike people weights people. The lawn people the content people team three was not happy at all. With the way this thing was going with russell wilson in seattle seahawks after you know shoddy gets fired out of their his offense coordinator pete carroll says philosophical differences which is basically saying The way they want to run. It is russell wilson. The way i'd like to run. It is much differently than just russell. Wilson russell. wilson allegedly via his team. It'd be remembered as a top five quarterback of all time can't do that if you don't win you're out of the spotlight and you're on a team that doesn't necessarily want to let you throw at thirty thirty five forty times a game like they were last year let russ cook was the narrative in it sounded like pekair wanted to bring in a sous chef is just the way he wanted him to survive and everything i it got ugly to be honest and almost got uncomfortable between the two sides in there was real conversations about him going chicago maybe a him and sierra they love chicago love cities beautiful. How about miami love miami. That was a real thing. His team actually came out and told schefter like hey he addressed it today or maybe yesterday at the mandatory minicamp. We knew this day was coming. I was excited to see how they would. Just move past this as if nothing happened. Kind of what happened in russell wilson's first media appearance since the whole altercation. Can we run it now. Gene rice geez is really that was like such a good throw to host. I did like the full fucking thing there. Russell wilson basically acted like it didn't happen though by the way he kinda he kinda just said. I the quote here okay. Now we don't need. Let's get to the video because the way he was saying. It was such russell wilson. Like let me find it on twitter here but him having to address it like knew this was going to happen because him and his offense fine and everything like that. He said he's talks. Be carol every single day. It's not a problem at all but your thoughts on this and how they roll out of it on south. Thank you wanted to get out of there. You know you saw interview talking about him. One more inputting roster and things like that and it just didn't happen so now it's time to play football so you gotta come out as a quarterback. The leaders say those things and he. I'm sure he believes that you know he's got to do that this year. And i think next year we probably revisit this whole thing again but unless they go go on to win it or go on and get close but You know. I think you wanna get out of there. Just didn't go down. He wanted to and the thing about him. Talking to pete and in this way if i can find the clip of him talking which i thought was going to be much easier to find the the thought of now the group even have it. Obviously everybody's busy the The thought of him saying i've talked to pete carroll like every single day. He said he's been back in the building. He looked very upbeat. Standard russell wilson. He looked like standard upbeat. Russell wilson here we go go hans. It's that's a great way to approach it. I think if you're russell wilson because if you move on quicker and you move on to everybody else going to move on but the offensive line was buried publicly. There's no way they can do like they can't guys are trying to get paid guys are trying to win gaza trying to live their life. So it's not like a guy especially the offensive line position is going to be like you know like hey there you go ahead and do what you got a lookout block or whatever which obviously means that you don't touch the person and you have to scream lookout whoever's behind you in. There's there's a lot of different ways that you can't do that in the nfl but a quarterback and offensive line getting along as probably a good thing. Let's assume that they patched that relationship and there's gonna be did he personally come out and say takes a team you know so we kind of eight and he said today by the way i never asked me i but it was always the team around him that so it was. I mean you kind of obviously is your responsibility to keep your team in check. Because usually that's how. I kind of put things out there but at the same time. If you're a part of that lie group. Should i mean you know if your should you're not and then you also know. Hey some of this is russ. We have a pocket. Sometimes you run yourself into trouble. So i think they both got to do better. You think you think they have meetings about that. You think they go like hey russ. We went through this. We'd like to apologize for our part of what happened in offensive lineman by the way normally the most selfless group of people that is what if you piss them off a complete. You're not is not a good group of people to have mad at you. In russ would probably i mean. Want them on his ideas probably friends with them too so i assume like even more so like whatever the offensive line. Here's the team three saying. They can't protect them get. This is isolated hard even more. So i assume it's a conversation you have but it never came from us. Here's the video that we're referring to earlier. Good work back there. Finding it everybody the video. Listen to the way he talks about this. Because i mean we had to cover it every day because we're in the middle of the sports stoppage and it was happening. I think maybe sports were back at the time but this was something. That was very real. There was a meeting in north dakota. That happened between chicago. Bears and seattle seahawks in an offer was made for russell wilson the way this was handled by russia and his first time in a microphone. Fucking bob ross. Art here listen to this thing. Listen to this reality thing saying that. I requested a trade. And that's just not true. So i think i think started from there And then obviously tons of tnt calling. And i think that the reality is that i didn't really want to go anywhere else. I wanted to seattle. But if i had to go somewhere these teams off. Okay you know what. I mean that that makes sense i mean. I don't want to go anywhere. But if i was i mean these are these here and i didn't ask for jerry by the way i mean my team might have. I just fucking beautiful by russell wilson time. Do you think that the stuff was his. Oh line squashed already now. Okay because i like. I mean i feel like that's something those guys aren't gonna forget when the season starts so it'd be over and if they start especially if they start winning and playing well then it's like who cares but you think they would still have some stuff they need to do to like work things out there right and i think in darius follow right after this with either a correction or a statement confirmation from like. There's nothing that can happen on the field because if you don't do your job well you're not going to get paid. You're not gonna win. You're not gonna do that. It's just everything else. I can offer align quarterback like that's like a classic thing so i don't know if that has been fractured eye on the commodity is important because you can do your job but if you like the guy you're protect your you play better. You can watch football on sundays. You tell if that line sometimes likes to gutter block widely. Andy dalton exactly. Yes that's like a roof. Yeah and by the way that says a lot not just in. Just think about the reaction to that cowboys. Andy dalton kill shot. Now antidote was new to the team had been hurt. I mean who knows why and how that whole thing happened but think about the reflection of the entire culture that place that we started like every player base now. Maybe the media didn't near like ended on was hurt and nobody want to touch them. It was like all ex players though there in meteo immediately like there should've been something right there that was a reflection on the entire culture. I think now. I don't know if that will ever happen with russell and the offense line but that is something that you normally just assume if things are going to go well here. These two are going to be tight. And that's just something has to happen. Russell wilson seems like a guy who can kind of guide through anything and kind of maybe take it head on. And say hey. We made some mistakes teammates mistake saying these things. I didn't know it was going to go publicly. Which might be true by the way. So i can get some of his rose to. I don't. I don't think that's talked about enough. He's obviously but he's a great quarterback on me you. The first word that comes to mind thing about russia like houdini but sometimes gets him into trouble and Obviously is that's when he makes his greatest plays as well. So i think he he can find a more of a balance there and then often i gotta get better but i think it's a chance that they can still men things and be point. I think that's especially when anything about ross's that's what makes them good to you. Know so there there can be a world where it exists where he does get sacked and he still plays like he does but the problem comes whenever they is team calls out other people for his style of play. What makes him great kind of affecting you know what i mean. So is his team not understand football. I would say that but russ top five full all done. I mean he said he's gonna probably end up there. He's never got all the time that's what he said you don't know hey he's never got one. Forgot about mesler okay by team offensive line will remember when talking to us about team. Three statements assume that will be something but go ahead without tough. That division is if they don't make the playoffs and win because winning cures everything if they're not one in do assume p carroll or russ yet one of the two will probably be out of their nine year for sure. Hey yeah we're friends man we say mission and then as soon as something goes wrong. Who's who's fault is it it. You're you're so if you guys are together it both of your faults then or is it one or the other. It's like we'll see how quickly old team three gets back behind a microphone and russell's anything but happy see agree. He's he's earned. He earned a point where he should have some input on the roster. I think he's earned. You know where he can come out and say what want and they paid him. They paid him to put them in a position where he should probably have some input on. What's going on. I mean like they're investing in him. Don't you think debate. But i mean it makes sense but as we know everything they do in those buildings. Don't always you know sometimes egos get involved. And so. yeah so and this era this is. This is a bunch of quarterbacks worse you know the power comes from what the the lingo in the contract right because if we listened to a john lynch said before the draft. Who's who who has the power. Who's making the decisions. I mean in the contract. It says me. But i'd be four dot to ask how shanahan what to do it in and i would assume that those contracts are what some people who get in power they start like. It's my job to do this. Same thing gruden ya you do this. I do this. i do this. You do this when really team effort you know. You see all the places where they're doing. Well guess what it seems like it's Good harmony now is that because do they. Are they happy because they win or do they win. Because they're happy i to think it's the second one whenever you see like a team together. That team is going to win. And it's just the it's the x factor that never gets talked about the k. Never ever gets talked about in. Can you put the toothpaste back into the the bottle. After comes out after potentially saying some things like for instance aaron in this entire thing the only time he spoke he's come out and said. I love my teammates. My coaches right. Because that is a relationship that you cannot fuck up. I don't think have success. I think that's you can't fuck up front office shit. There's a lot of people in the locker room that don't necessarily love what's going on the front office so that can happen but with russell. It was offense. Align coaches right. that's in that is every day. We're going to work trying to accomplish something i just think. That's an x factor. Doesn't get talked about. That's what's interesting too is because he almost already has an out if they do you know. They don't make the playoffs this year. They start and there they go all in or one in four or something like that. He's got like the wanted. Brian schottenheimer here. You guys went out and hired this offensive coordinator like i told you. I wanted to be involved in that decision. You didn't let me do it and now look what's going on a team. Three's going get chirpy team. Three they might go into the ground for seven months. Okay but these cicadas. They will come out of the dirt seven months later in start talking about what had happened was and hopefully they win for the sake of seahawks fans which we do not have a lot that listen and if we do no matter what we say they get pissed off whatever happens but for the sake of seahawks fans russell. Wilson's don't just grow on trees. So i've said this a lot of times and i think everybody has whatever you can do to get that motherfucker to sunday if you can just get that gotta sunday. Listen let's hope. His teammates like him if his teammates don't like them by the way he's not he's not that guy. He's not the guy anyways teammates. You'd like them teammates. You follow him. Enlists get him to sunday. And when we deal. Let's go into game. I mean that is what the nfl is peak off peak hero. You know they have that. Many years left coach. Seventy something to keep him happy. He looks good but coach seventy-five while keep happy valley. Check said i was planning on her. Seventy really tackle feels much different. Seventy thirty it with bell. Check having the head coach. Jim is that why it's so beneficial. Because yeah well. If if say if they're good there's been i mean bill. O'brien was gm and houston can go one or two ways any something. I mean bella. Chat brady too. So that's a helluva centerpiece to build around both as a gm avenue. Resume like that. Or if you're if you're if you're a gm and you can have your best player. Take less money to continue to build. That helps you. And if you're a coach who can have the best player get chewed out on mondays after games. That's good for you as a coach. Tom brady helped both the gm and the coaching side. Bill belichick but also bill belichick helped for shoot. Tom brady for a long time. So it's just like situations okay are situational but having a coach. Gm on the same page is fucking vital in every situated is obviously one person. Now i guess there are people that conflict with themselves that definitely helps but there's a lot of humans on earth that can accomplish that the amount a b s motion business that has to get out trades. Potentially happening phone calls that you have to have somebody interested in this. What are the new contract rules and clauses. They have lead counsel obviously but just salary caps and then also by the way each week. We got to build a new strategy. They do. it's just. I bet it's a bit time consuming and now i don't know of anybody else i mean. Hopefully somebody will. But that's a that's a big ass football brain you gotta have their. Gm's you know what they say you know you can't shake hands clench fists. You know so the fuck them so. I don't know if that was. We'll get to a break. But we gotta explain nassar. Do you get these These text messages from the nfl. Pa hashtag nfl pa tips. Those students do. They text every friday a latex every friday. This like life tip okay okay. I responded once. Did he get a response. I told her i said today. Oh athlete author. Sam auto were deep dive into his first book. Join in by tweeting and using hashtag. Glit- league you may hear from sam directly. So i responded we'll sam answer me directly and they did not respond so then there was another time. I responded They sent their thing out on thursday and it was called friday tips. So don't hang early. Stars doesn't apply today though it was a good one. This one is from indira. Gandhi which is at the gandhi referred to not guns mahatma. Maha gandhi dondi. This is little brother. Maybe cousin sibling offspring brow. Tiff possibly still has the roots of dondi gardening. You got a lot of people you know. There's a lot of people saying they come from. Jesus line to thing that is. I've found some documentaries like crush. Yeah exactly people like brussels. I don't think russell wilson said Maybe jackie's to be but anyways indira gandhi says you cannot shake hands with a clenched fist. About that with without i did i fought it. Okay okay that's fucking gandhi delineate. But i'll tell you what the two stooges here to your left. As soon as they heard that quote they both clinched her left fist and then shook with their right hand. They say ghandi's wrong that we did it long time ago. Gun things have changed. Well we just don't back on the other side. We have michael cole join us today. One of five my compensating partner on france back down which is tonight. Abm eastern on fox. Act to be honest. I have no idea what about you guys. How's the camaraderie. Do we're a good team. People go through many changes as we get older for men. One of the less fortunate changes is that testosterone production begins to naturally decrease in the bottom. Did you know this. aj. I'm aware for most bennett begins around. The age of thirty and testosterone production declines by roughly one percent. Career is to one hundred and thirty. Ain't got shit left now minus thirty well if it starts around thirty. This is one of those questions on a test where you know begins around. Thirty in the testosterone production declines by roughly one percent per year. So does it start at zero or does it start at thirty. That's the thing this is. Dan word just wanted to go. 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Probably the fits last summer call. I time down shit bullshit. It's not me a house me either. But i can hear you guys through the mic. Or maybe zeke's laptop. Mike to you know how you normally get before you come live. I'm kind of. I'm kind of a disappointing. You didn't get to see him that. He is fully shirtless. Right behind the camera that i am staring at here he is. It is very hot. Down here in florida is that what's going on zee. It's very hot becker. The sun is beating through the beach. Obviously there is some pros and cons to having a beach house. One of them is the son especially down here in tampa bay as hot as hell fox has deal with that same son and zito's potential aura. Now back there. Hey wait a battle back airflow. Aj great to see a dude. How are you did you watch any of the first hour. We talked about the trophies. You get to hear about that at all. And what are your thoughts. Well the only thing and the most important thing that i heard from the first hour was the jeffrey toobin talk. Welcome back jeff. Everybody looks happy to see back. Come back boy jeff. Jeff the how did i know that that would be the only thing i saw. That is gone. You watched all you saw. Was that because we talked. Maybe russell wilson has come out and just said nine say anything. Don't worry about it. i didn't. I didn't do anything team. Day wasn't me. we'll get past. I want to be here. we're gonna win. Let's go ahead and keep moving carol. You said nothing about that. You said you did see that. You just said that i asked about the trophy thing. One of what you have one which is up for a prestigious poll right now for the greatest trophy in sports in debate and the room by the way has it at number two overall ranking of two of behind the stanley cup. Thought you talk about that. But instead here you are talking about old tubes robbins. Rubbing his himself into pleasure and excitement in front of his entire zoom call after twenty seven years of working in a place and then coming back on tv and having to talk about. Of course that is all you wanna talk about. Aj hawkins your thoughts on tubes in what had happened. Oh jeffrey toobin what is what was your immediate thoughts. And did you ever think you'd see him get well first off. I actually didn't see the whole trophy. It's crazy to think bart he's not number one are we saying like or the coolest experience would be able to take it home. I stanley cup six times. I had them bharti one to until us all there together. I didn't realize how big how big that stanley cup wars. I mean whenever you look at this look at that out to see that thing it is watch. Now we do think the nba Chose to make their is bigger than the lombardi on purpose. We also think that the mlb which is what this was that put the lombardi on smaller table. Then now the tables to potentially make. There's look better. That's your piece of metal from the the mba and then obviously stanley cup. But yeah we have four thing saying we missed out on a couple. The world cup obviously is a beautiful beautiful trip. We did mention. america's never wanted though so it was not up for the conversation. technically are so we cannot. We will by the way we will win that. Don't you worry about that. And it will then answer. But it's a beauty asking tokyo. It is the indy. Five hundred board. Verner trophy verner weren't dope that. Yeah you yeah but then the trophy by the way it adds it adds a face of the winner into the side of the and it also adds rings like the stanley cup so it stands taller than some of the drivers that went. It is also a big trophy there at any five hundred. Never seen it. Before what was absent. It's more synonymous with the glass of milk air bottle of milk which you have a problem. That's the case you've never seen the burn housing. The bureau was the original one. I guess because there's only a couple of winners here so those were the heads of the winners basically cut into the metal and then it adds onto that whole thing so this is the top of it and then adds onto the bought a new one seat to the most recent one to next to. Because i think elliot's want his fourth. It is as tall as elliot cash. Nab is really. Yeah it is one hundred hundred and four hundred performance zog. Yeah indianapolis tweeted my count. That is running a poll during the show about the trophies and a lot of people in indianapolis or like whoa. Are you fucking kidding. Me with this one. We even talking about and i and my wife by the way it was one of them and the lombardi stone. I think the lombardi is the aside from in this entire conversation. It's okay your trophies. Do good are trophies. Bring the entire world ab- a bazillion is to it. So it's one of those things but whenever you talk about this the verner lou. That's yeah the adult yeah. Yeah that's that's that's one. Yeah it's a man. I'm sure we can find that your synonymous with donner. It's too fucking big without. How's how's he getting elliott. Get out of there. Well he's put it on the back of this rocket ship that he strapped himself into intro five hundred miles in indianapolis seven hundred degree heat now. That car that he's sitting on shot siriusxm by that car. He's out probably like five million. These things are so expensive they blow a tire. It's awesome senator. It's unbelievable what they do. The amount of gut sack it takes to help yourself into one of these. But you're right. The trophy isn't just for parading around. I don't think. I don't think you're walking around with. Of course you gotta ask. How are we getting this thing out of here. Swansea is not wheels on the bottom of it. Wow did you just make it. The one seed even better. I mean racing. Here give that thing aleft. Maybe so i think we have to do a full bracket for this now that we have really good call calling this but i think we do have to bracket zito shirtless and waving his hand for the stanley. Cup isn't better or worse than it has a handler. That guy by the way what he punked. Nick nick is not honoring donald. Think have we called. Have we go multiple corrina. You gotta hang up. I think on india right to go. Hey nick yeah. This'll be the we got a call. Michael use the computer. That's using the indianapolis scotch after this whole thing. Michael we're five minutes like he's going to have a full. He's going to have a full rundown of our lack. The unprofessionalism of our yeah. I just got a text. He's going to do there. We apologize what's up to my call. Who is the voice of wwf. Late last twenty four years but also cool dude massive massive knicks fan who massive mets fan massive sports. An cool guy. We'll talk about obviously a relationship. But nick the stanley cup handler. I don't remember. do we hate or like that guy. There was two of them and the one we met wasn't the main guy the main guy i think his name is phil pritchard. The guy we met was like a substitute backup guy. And i don't think we loved him. He was a little little full of himself. Yeah and. I don't think i don't remember if it was odd or the entire the entire environment. We're in didn't appreciate what this guy was all about. But i think he was potentially trying to do. His thing is gloves on white gloves. Full suit. He carries that day kerry they have had a head handling then he delegates bullshit work other handlers but they carry that thing around after it gets partied with after the stanley cup. They prayed that thing around different places. I think in canada obviously and everything like that. It is well manicured that lord stanley cup. Hey pat a calls coming on but do they. He stays with the whole time right so when their party and with it isn't he always inside of the cup his is he in that fountain. That lovie was swimming around them. I would assume he's lear but do they make like have to sign. Nda's like something. Hey you can't speak of anything. You see kind of parties while the hockey players i from what i've been told they do have a good time and i've heard that they have good stamina in what they do as well and they might even add enhancements to enhance their stamina. Going through things alleged. I'm just saying i've heard. Some are alleged. Some not some have been caught in documented. But i believe there is a potential iran. Right we're not going to get in. But i guess they are a stimulant community from what i've been told to go. They lay to while they're partying. I'm not saying in hockey. Because they get tested. But i've heard whatever their party and having a good time they're going so i assume that uptight guy that we met with the gloves he would have to see some things and with lord stanley especially with the way canadians down and russians and everywhere that thing. What a life for that guy. Probably a lotta. As if i guess he'll write a book at one point our buddy guy. Something happened but we're going to learn a lot from the handler joining us now. Ladies and gentlemen the voice of the wwe for the last twenty four years play by play man for friday night. Smackdown eight pm eastern daylight time on fox tonight. Mr michael soul patch haven't coal miner leading suit wherein bad sports team cheer ladies and gentlemen michael cole. Centro pat you have clocks in your students say new. Someone's going to happen. Knew you were gonna address that we got caught up in a trophy conversation. Which by the way. I think you would whenever you. Wwe title andre the giant memorial. A foot taller whatever. What are you talking about trophies in sports and you have to rank them obviously in my eyes lombardi's number one everybody else's competing for number two lord stanley cup. The nba is talked about that piece of metal rob manfred called the mlb championship in your eyes. When you think about the perfect trophy what do you think of michael cole. Wwe championship. it's been around since nineteen sixty one sixty one years aside from the wwe championship. Michael aside from that. When you're talking about these trophies in will pour up a photo of what we have here. What are your thoughts on. Do you think they need to do more do less. Should we spice some of these things up. What do you think. Michael lord stanley cup. Because it's so big. I'll tell you why because it's just the tradition of all And everything they do with it and taking it on tour and drinking champagne out of it and the excitement. I'm not a hockey guy by any stretch of the imagination. But i really really think that. That is a cool way to celebrate the championship tour. The cup goes out every year. It's so unique to that sport to what they do. And i just think it's really cool. Why don't you like hockey stooge that too. But no i mean i never i was brought up in upstate new york. My dad had season tickets to the mets. The jets in the knicks and i grew up as a baseball basketball and football fan. You know back in the In the early sixties when they built a shea stadium and the jets and mets Moved out of the polo grounds where they played for year If you bought met season tickets They threw in jet season tickets as part of the package. That's why yeah. And and my dad adam from from day one at shea stadium sixty four and As a kid growing up in the s I want every jets game every mets game. They were horrible of both teams at the time But my recollection boever of any live sporting event was one thousand nine hundred seventy three shea stadium If it was snowing it was cold and oj simpson well over two thousand yards for the bills against the snapped. I recollect any live sporting event that i ever went to that and the nineteen seventy-three world series Where the The mets play the as in lost in seven and willie. Mays was playing for the mets. That year was the only year that really played before he retired at our member. Willie taking a walk and hobbling down to first base. And i remember my dad saying willie say it ain't so you've got to retire. And those are the two first recollection of any live sporting events. And they both came in newark. So i was brought up a huge bat suggests fan and the knicks fan as well spent a lot of my time at shea stadium and the garden is kid. Oj simpson wouldn't just do that by the way. He went to more alleged definite. Michael was so when you don't like i'm trying to think in your normal everyday life when you're concentrating with non. Wwe people say you're at a neighborhood cookout or something in someone doesn't know you and they find out what you do and who you are. What kind of awful questions do you get into question you. Now how do you handle. How do you handle your co host playing air guitar and air in your face two inches away but you guys know through right You know you hang around people. A lot of people don't know you are and then all of a sudden it dawns on then. There's this realization of oh my god. This guy's on television. This guy is sort of famous in his world and Wha- what can i ask. This guy inevitably. The questions are always. Do you knew the juneau the rock do you know. So cold steve. Austin every single person that i ever for the first time. That's what they asked me. Do you know the rock stoeckel. Steve austin i tend to say no because once you say yes that it opens up huge. Can of what i about to ask so good question i know mcafee and then the conversation really spheres toward getting way totally from wrestling okay. Let's talk about the rock and stone cold though because you know those clips of michael cole okay. Decades and decades ago attitude era coal. Hey this company. We don't know what this company is gonna be ten years from now twenty years from now. There's a chance this company by the way would never go on to be a globally traded multibillion dollar conglomerate. I mean obviously inside. You guys thought that but outside there was questions. There's old rock clips that are legendary where there's a young michael cole with a soul patches right there on the other side of that thing that had to be a wild time to be in the wwe. I assume Incredible time you know. When i started in the company it was early late. Nineteen ninety-six early nineteen ninety-seven and When i first started really getting on television just doing backstage interviews and the like It was in the late nineteen ninety-seven period and that was the moment where the a very infamous breastroke incident happened. Where vince mcmahon Supposedly screwed over. Bret hart at the montreal. Screw job at survivor series. I actually did an interview on that show so i remember it vividly and at that moment over the next couple of weeks. We didn't know as a company if we were going to survive. We didn't know if we were actually going to have a tv show the next night. We are going to have a tv show in six months. Wcw was kicking our asked. Monday night war. It was really tough time. My wife asked me a few times. You realize dumb ass that you left a really stable job at cbs. Radio to go to the circus world of the wwe and they might not even have a company in the year. What the hell you're going to do that so we all rally together and And that's the attitude era started and You know about eight or eight or ten. Great minds got together in a in a board room in in connecticut and came up with creative in some ideas for the attitude era and stone. Cold steve austin and the rock were born and degeneration accident change. The entire world is sports entertainment and changes life as we know it was an incredible time to be a part of this company. The creativity juices were flowing at a point. That i've never seen before or since. Okay so let's let's talk about. There's a lot to talk about. If i wanna get real internet wrestling community do you do you wash docks that come out. Maybe that aren't from within the wwe. Docs in there. Or do you listen to these pods or interviews. that happened when people talk about the cause. You're literally there. You're still there. There's not a lot of people by the way on the road. This son of a bitch. Twenty four yards every single weekday on. There there's not a lot of people that can do that now. He's he doesn't have take the bumps right. He's not he's not doing that whole thing. But still i think for a couple years undefeated wrestlemainia. No but you're one of the only people that have been with this company from the glory days. Good old days where there's podcast so many podcast. There's there's entire comic con businesses out of this. There's entire conferences. That have been created out of this era in your one of the only people that are still around you. Don't listen any of it or if you did. Would you have to be like well. Not not necessarily but is there any of that or because there are some things that i wish that you would have dairy seeking out of his face real quick my god. He didn't tap. yeah. I tasked but i was still on that so it doesn't matter okay. I mean i don't know how that was reversed because stone cold. Steve austin cheated is the referee thirty. Go he obviously did. He wants the bell to quickly. Just like vince in at montreal. Potentially but the when you hear about these stories potentially that are being told about the good old days at. you're apart of. Is there any that you thought back to. The you're like man. What a fucking time to be alive there. Maybe maybe not on the show but like something else is there ever has been any of these new shows that have kind of rekindled any memories your liked. I forgot we did that. That was awesome. Anything like that. It's incredible are asking you to use a lot and I have them refresh my memory of what happened. I've called tens of thousands of matches in the last twenty four. He's asked me what's your favorite match. What do you think of the match that happened in two thousand eight. I don't remember honestly and then they have to remind me and it'll the oh my god i remember that those days you know. It's just great. French gifts that have developed over the years. Jbl and i really great friends because of this business i could tell you stories for hours on end of some of this stuff. The john and i have done over the years. It's just an incredible place to be. You know it's such a different world now though pat is you know back in the attitude era. There were no You know the internet was just starting there. There were no podcast. There was a twitter. There was no social media Any news that the fan wanted to get outside of watching the television show was either through a magazine or through a true dirt sheet which was a sheet that was put out once a month by the dirty writers. You know so. There was no instant feedback. The only feedback we got at the time and the only reason we knew guys like the rock and stone cold. Steve austin were over because of the reaction to the audience. Salad houses and the television that you know and and today it's instant feedback and it's an incredible is which of things be able to evolve in. Stay in the company for as long as i have. I have tried to get used to the way things are done today. Which is this is truth. One of the reasons. You're on a show pat not only because you're talented great broadcaster but you are locked in the digital world into the social world. And you're able to teach me a lot of stuff on my end and also help teach our company a lot about what needs to be done except for the air guitar which is clear risk. That's thing ever my life but if true though the different world today and speaking of smackdown. Hey i gotta go because you call me ten minutes late. And i haven't made star free minutes with the chairman of the common law. Michael cole how you keep putting up with this guy seriously. Hey do some separated by a couple hundred miles. Well you seem to work like a decent our today gonna show up at like seven thirty again with tan. I can see what what level we get to on this spray dan. You know what. I mean might take a little bit and might take a little bit more cooking next week. Call me a little earlier. We could chat a little bit more about this stuff. Hey i appreciate your man. You're legend ladies and gentlemen. Michael call see. That's the thing about the show our lack of professionalism target us every once in a while people talking about it won't said it's been a guinness. We were just get into maybe a rock story maybe stone cold story great here. It was awesome very this louis. Better middle school the middle school man. What they were able to say on tv back to do everything that they were doing awesome. That's literally i mean the rock. There are some videos if they really wanted to put them out of context they can put him into. Wwe and just be like. Hey there are some shit that you have to answer some questions to leave right. After they wouldn't have to be worried about anyone catching them on a phone or anything like that like they can live their lives by the people. Come talk to them and they can look up and go. Hey fuck and fuck you. I'm doing it now if you do that. It's like on camera worst person ever. Why are they representing this company. This isn't what i'm a fan of this. It's just like in everything by the way that's not just the wrestling business. Big thanks michael cole. Dre break and then on the other side we'll talk to. Aj jayhawk about everything happening in the nfl. Got bob demovsky. Join us in thirty five minutes. He says he talked good stories on you. Aj what's that me. I don't know. I'm curious to see if all of a sudden he has changed in goes by bob now just because of the show thinks. Oh bob bob babo bobby bobby. Let's break we're back and forth minutes. Some phone calls wrapping up the week. That was in anything that could potentially happen this weekend. Big thanks to michael cole. Well this weekend is blowing some tree don in the middle of the press conference just one night two nights before he has a five round battle with another man. I love him. I don't know if i'm gonna be able to stay up for all the other fights. I'm gonna watch that for sure. I think dana knows that as well. Dana in the press conference whenever all the smoke. The picture that got out is looking ever have laughing knowing that it's fucking there ain't none of us could do. He can smoke more than you. He will last longer than you. He swam back and forth to alcatraz the thing that was supposed to kill everybody. Which is why was created in. That guy is black belt jujitsu by the way not just a hand thrower. I'm excited for that. So sorry to interrupt that. You're not gambling with fan. Bill you're wrong kafe. Indoor sports book is available in seven states. I believe at this point. Six seven eight. 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I think is our daily show in our daily clips. Do so we're going to open it up see if other. Social media's enjoy with three different giveaways happening three three different giveaways on instagram at magazine twitter and youtube comforts as the max v show for episode. Fox's giving away fox. Loves doing. I try to give away four hundred bucks from Phil sharpe sorry. That didn't happen joining us now. Aj hawkins back with it's obviously from attic. Hey this episode here. Coming in fifty six minutes dude. I think it's as coolest one yet to be honest with you. Aj really. I always anxiously await foxy production. So this should be good as this is. This is the course one. I've enjoyed this one. It's a little bit of a change in style. it's a little different paced. I'm a big fan of it. Can't wait for everybody to watch joining us. Now is a man who had boots on the ground at green bay packers mandatory minicamp. Who wasn't there. Aaron rodgers. whoa jordan. Love blake bortles wallow. Who else was there. A man who represents the green bay packers for espn. A man has been around a long time even got a chance to cover. Aj hawk ladies and gentlemen. Bob demovsky show. What was that llamas in both screens. Bob how you doing pal do their second. What's going on guys. Hey listen. I don't know you well enough to decide whether or not to use a good thing but i am excited to see how this goes. Bob you're the topic of conversation at least for. Espn for us a source of information to cover this week. The green bay packers official men joy minicamp becoming the eyes of every football fan because errands. Not there. what's jordan love. Look like we all agree. This is not jordan lavas fault but man. He is in a position where everything he does is going to be. Scrutinized what were your thoughts and takeaways from packers after being boots on the ground. This week bob. I thought we were just gonna tell. Aj hawk stories. I got a whole list of my favorite. I was writing okay. We will definitely get to that. I hope one of them is doing karate and jim. Because we have video of that as well. But bob your thoughts on on mansard camp and i can't wait to get to that as well. Yes so it was like you know the jordan love show right you've been in plenty of mini camps and training camp practices. And i've been doing this for twenty five years and for twenty five years. They've always done. The quarterback wraps the exact same way whether. It was my congressman. Mike mccarthy mike schuermann whoever as the coach the starter takes the first four or five reps. The backup takes the next three or four. The third stringer then gets like two or three and then they start over and over again. At the top there was a stretch where jordan love at one time took sixteen snaps in a row. Then he took the next period and snaps in a row. Yesterday the last day of minicamp they ran thirty. One play as a team. That's eleven on. Eleven and jordan love took the snap in of those thirty one place. I mean he he threw. I think it was fifty seven passes. No i'm sorry seventy acids this last three days all of training camp last year. He threw like sixty four passes so he threw more castles in three days this week than he did in three weeks of training camp last year. Okay what were you. What were your thoughts first day. Not so good. A little bit of pressure. I assume he was told by the team. Hey you're going to get all the reps basically here day. One day to play cbor does we did find out. Hit somebody deep down inside day two. We look good. Do you think there obviously like. Hey this is what our team's gonna look like if this is how this is very evident you think. Yeah i think they had to. They had no choice They had to throw him and see just how he handled the full work. Load as if as if it were you know september ninth and they were getting ready to play at new orleans. Three days later. I and we asked the floor at the end of the scale. The playbook back did you hold back lot. He said no. He threw everything adam. And you're right. The first day was borderline disastrous. The second day was borderline amazing and the third day. Was you know somewhere halfway. In between which i think is just what you're going to get with a young quarterback. It's been so long since we've seen a guy or really had to judge a guy coming in off the street because in my time here. I basically covered two quarterbacks bar and aaron rodgers as far as like the whole offseason goes. I know aaron got hurt and there was some brett hundley in there for a stretch. But not like this right where it was an entire offseason of watching another quarterback and you know two things one you take for granted just how good aaron is that how easy he makes it look and then to just how hard it is for somebody to come in and learn from the start and just basically start over at at the ground level of quarterbacking. And it's really hard it. What was the atmosphere like out there. I know you've been to a million practices. A million mini camps was fake enthusiasm. I have it was weird. Aj because as you know like during the mini camps in the past state. Have they'd let fans lineup along the fence. You know i don't either street there and this there is no fans there This time it was typed up so it was kind of a little bit dad the first day and you know when when a lot of was struggling it was a little room you know there are some grimacing going on but then it's jersey hit I think it was. Aj dylan on a thirty are wheel. Route down the sideline the second day. There was a little bit of a buzz. There and as each completion went on and on and on and he was starting to fling the ball down the field. There was a real vibe in there and a real energy and it actually felt like one of those night training camp practices member. Aj when mccarthy with practice under the lights and things would kinda get spirited almost That's what that felt like. At one point of their tight ends coach just out and took his playing card and started. Banning was doing this. He was fanning off as i don because he was on fire a bob. I love the thought of you covering the team talking about those night practices and then. Aj in the middle of those practices dying with all the intensity there. oh yeah let's amp up the intensity. Yeah this is great. Okay we're gonna we're gonna die out here just two different sides of one particular practice. We're talking to rob demovsky. Espn nfl nation reporter for the green bay packers which has been the entire story of mandatory minicamps. Basically tie schmidt owner of the packers as a question for you bob after mark murphy set everything about how he thinks. The fan base is kind of divided on the rogers thing based on your twitter. Mentions and stuff like that. And i guess how it is like up where. You're at in wisconsin. Do you view that the same way or is it more like we were saying yesterday. It's probably more so ninety. Nine percent wants rogers back but they understand the situation or do you really think the fan base is kind of like divided on this. It's hard to tell. Because like for one thing i try not to look at my mentioned figuring. You don't deserve that bob. You've done great work. But i will. I will say this like the the story breaks. Originally the schefter report breaks on thursday the draft right. I'm in this. I'm in my office. Thursday friday saturday locked in cover the draft sunday morning. I go to play golf first time. I had been out of the house really since the story broke. And i go to the driving range. Eight a few balls before i play. And there's like eight people on the driving range and four of them were basically like man. What are they doing. They should fire unit kunz fire murphy and give rogers everything he wants and the other guys were basically like forget rogers man. I'm done with this guy so low ball sampling of a. It's a very unscientific. Driving range poll three days after the story broke. And and to be honest with you. That's my best age of it i do. There is one guy. And i almost want to knock on his door drive past this house almost every day. I'm webster avenue. Aj will know where that is right across from the hospitals in green bay. And he's got a scientist front yard and it just says aaron go pack which is i assume. He means aaron. Pack your bags Using the familiar like gold pack right. That's the goal at the end. 'cause it's go back go isn't it. Yeah is this. Aaron go pack. I don't know i know but To be honest with your house. Little catchy and i didn't want to knock on the door. Acti- sounds like a stage. By the way he'll be packing it in. I assume if aaron does end up leaving has that become something that you are ready to stare down. Bob you just said at twenty five years. Brett farve aaron rodgers. Your life becomes very different if aaron rodgers goes elsewhere. Doesn't it bother you. Package deal like windows. I'll go where you want to take along and me on the payroll. I guess i know. Here's the thing pat like. I typically we we all go on vacation. I cover the nfl as soon as many camps over. You kinda shut down till till training camp this. This is the time when we take time off. So before i go on vacation for the next month i gotta do three things. I've got write one story for him. Sign a contract extension to come back. I've got another story on if they trade him and i've got to write a third story on if he retires. Just so whatever happens. When i'm on vacation. I'm covered smart. Bob bob i know you get a lotta aaron rodgers. Talk jordan love. I wanna talk a little bit about the defense my cousin to randy ramsey out during the packers a first round pick Stokes how does he look. I like because. I really love the green bay. Secondary alexander savage ammos. How does he look. He fit in a lot of a lot of fans weren't happy with the pig. Lots of people felt like that was reach. That spot how does he look so far guy who played on that side of the ball. You'll probably love this. He had a pick six of jordan. Love practice the other day a rookie. First round pick coming in the first camp any the he he comes up with a pick. Six showed his speed. I kind of like the pick and look. I know everybody's gonna say they didn't help. Erin but this right after the draft that if aaron were willing to consider it he would look at this draft class and see that. It's actually going to help him win right away if he comes back because what were the problems in the nfc. Championship game one. The cornerback play right. Kevin king got completely exposed especially offensive line so they take soaps first round to the offensive line was kind of a mess with bahktiar is injury. They lose corey lens. Lay down free agency. What do they do second round. They draft center. Whose get looks like. He's going to start right away and be another corey. Leslie was a great player and the three they take a slot receiver with Arrivers they haven't had anybody like that. Bob bob bob bob bob. Yes i he worked for. Espn's doesn't don't you spit corey lens. Lease face like that. Lindsay is okay now. That's what this table does about the parents somebody where they drafted this round. Looks like he's just going to be corey lansley again. It's like bob have a little bit of fucking respect please. He's this guy might be by the way he might be. But we're not crown a guy before you know what i mean bought. That's that's that's fair. That's totally fair. But my point is that they didn't just ignore a fact that they lost an all senators. That they they went and got another guy that they think could be that way from ohio state right. Aj what has to happen you think. Now what can the front office due to try to patch things up. Have you talked to him more than then. Aj has put off at. Do you have any. Does anybody have any information. In this thing bob honest with you. The last time i spoke with him was the day before he went on your show. And did the you know the right around the jeopardy time i think it was. I actually just back and look at the class. I think your show is april fifth and that was the day where you said bob demovsky about twenty five rogers often answer to say that you ask them a follow you because you did good journalism in there. It felt like aaron had enough respect for you by the way he actually answered you. So that's why we the day before that and it was. I honestly one of my favorite conversations. I've ever had with erin and i've had a lot of them but it was just all about jeopardy. I hung up the phone that day. And of course this is before all the you know what hit the fan. I hung up the phone. That day going okay. He knows he's probably gonna play one more year here and he's gonna make one more run at it and i hung up the phone going. All right. this is this is the last dance And then obviously all hell broke loose. So i have not spoken directly with him since then. I'm sure aj has before. That's all. I don't wanna put words in his mouth because crazy brady pinga once accused me of doing that so i'm not gonna do it. I have blocked radio on twitter by the way. I just take up. Aj's buddy just mentioned him yesterday. Talking about brady brady usa crazy. Wow taking shots at bob you crazy brady popping after you. This was like a year ago after they drafted jordan love and i said that i talked to somebody who said it would light a fire under aaron and that he would be irate about the pick and i think it turns out. Both things are true ended up being right but brady thought it was put words in his mouth and i just. I couldn't take brady anymore. I love the guy. But i just i had a shot of all right. Let's hear some. Aj hawk stories. Here now said. Bob bob bob before you get to that okay. There is a video that was introduced to our lives last night that we would like to can't see we'd like to watch it i. We're on the plane. When this thing came through i cried on a plane last night for seven to eight minutes watching this video for the first time just thinking. Aj hawks reaction after this. He was forced to do this what he thought it was going to be going into it. And i assume a lot of your stories we're gonna be interacting with. Aj and his feelings. What things were you at this bob in was potentially your video j. What how huge tournier growing embiid. How many of these events were happening around me. Columbia recorded luke where they did just place get the more watched it some willpower heart shorts. You know about this giant shorts. What did you think so enough to hear. Aj will you please. What did you think this was. Did you know you can be doing. The shaved head. Guy actually is legit. Taekwondo guy believe it was no. That's not that's a disgrace to kratie to call that karate. That was just trying to. I'm i have no idea what the hell was obviously not having any kind of technique and not knowing how to kick. That's hey good workout man. This must be a marketing for this d. One jim as this was supposed to sell people to come to this thing is for something else. I don't know what jeff thank you. Aj ever tell you about the time that he took a cab from minneapolis. Degreen bay remember that. That was not a lot of fun. Though i find if i remember the story right it was late in the ota's and you were out of town for the weekend. It was like the last week of ota's and you were flying back into green bay and as you know this isn't the easiest place to get to. And so he. He changes planes. I think in minnesota and he missed his flight or the flights canceled and not the next morning. And there's no rental cars. The whole rental are the rental car. Place is closed. And so minnesota's like four and a half hours away from green bay and he walks outside of the airport. And he asked the cabbie on what's gonna take to give me the green bay and it's like midnight and i think the guy said five hundred bucks is that right turned out to be way more than that colitis. My workout bonus was on the line. So i was going to make it so i found out about this and i wrote a. Aj's is that day after ota's and i said hey. I heard you took a cab back and he goes. Did you hear that. I be honest over. Remember he said yeah. I was coming from here and this and whatever maybe it was it might have been like two grand whatever. It was ended up being a hilarious story. But i never did get to ask is the only reason you did it because you had like the the cats there was going to pale in comparison to you. If you missed one zero t n you need to get your father. Because he was a good teammate. That's bob that's one of those things where these ota spin on monday morning. Something happens and people travel for the long week especially at the end where they got fridays off saturday sunday off or whatever every you hear every culture. It's like hey meetings at seven thirty. Monday morning be approach. Don't miss it. There's there's horror stories of guys planes being delayed or cancelled in charlotte. Trying to get the indy. I've never heard somebody taking a five hour cab ride over. Aj team s bonuses online. I hadn't missed any days. So i still would've gotten my bonus but i would be there. My wife was with me but it was one of those deals. Flight canceled no rental cars available in by the way i had multiple people from my point. Say hey you wanna get a car together. Now they've got something set up already. Take face twenty five years doing this. That is one of my favorite most fun stories to right now. There's one more. And i think it might have been the super bowl season of two thousand ten. I'm not a hundred percent. Sure but the first game of the year. I think it was at philly and they played like all dime defense in asia. Didn't get a single snap like not one snap. And i'm not going to sell out who the source was but i get a call from somebody calls. Aj that says to me that next morning he goes. You know if you wrote a story that said. Aj hawk basically says play me or trade me. You wouldn't be wrong the next week. Aj plays seventy of seventy snaps on defense. Never the up again. So i never got any kickback. For help they probably he probably had to get to warn me surgeries after seventy reps in next game but bob. We appreciate your services. Sports media can't wait to see what happens. Which one of the three stories breaks in. We appreciate you spending time here on his friday. Bob thanks for having me. And i gotta say this you gotta have matched been on. Because he probably is your number one media slash fans support. He's he turned me on your show before i ever even knew about we love nine and lily. Lily's yahoo. you got a good team of press over there green bay. I hope you guys enjoy the hell out of that. Ladies and gentlemen. Espn nfl nation reporter for the green bay. Packers were dubov state. That's the show. We appreciate everybody who listens. Watches along supports us in any way. we know. There's a lot of stuff out there that you could be watching or listening so the fact that you guys are spending your days with us It it means a lot. Don't forget to check out episode. 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REShow: Jalen Rose - Hour 2 (06-09-21)

The Rich Eisen Show

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REShow: Jalen Rose - Hour 2 (06-09-21)

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Two of the rich eisen show is on the air. Eight four four two four rich is the number to dial here on the rich eisen show on this very busy wednesday. Tom brady has just spoken here. on this On this Middle of first week of of mandatory minicamp and We've got ourselves A goat twelve talking tom. Brady everything is hunky dory though he says that This year's different that's going to be the entirety of the box. Two thousand and twenty one season because they want it all and they're the first team since the seventy eight steelers to bring or seventy nine still is to bring everybody from a championship team. Back now is a totally different time or there wasn't any cap and none of this stuff that's going on financially in the nfl. And everyone's if they're going to roll football's out and do it and So tom's like the reality is that this year's different he set the tone. The reality is this year's different. We're all expecting. It's going to be the same because everybody's back right mma championship team. Everybody's back and And so brady is doing what he does. Which is set the tone. A lot of people think he goes up there and he says a bunch of nothing but he does reveal some things if you listen one of it right there man. He doesn't want to hear about. Let's they're running back and it's all it's all saint thing. Everyone should expect the same thing. So that's what a michigan man does though can atallah jalen is about to join us. He is the co host of jalen and jacoby. The founder of the jalen rose leadership academy and One of the top analysts in the game talking about hoops from espn nba countdown. And more jalen rose. How are you sir. Thank you for the love of my brother. Appreciate you having me on and as always hail to the vic hail to the victors valiant. How 'bout you on. What a season. What a season for him last year. I'm so happy for and how he comported himself. What the thing about joon when we were freshmen in college we were the same age but it was like he was always like four or five years older than everybody else. Well especially me. I guess i should speak for myself and taking the job. The first season and really coming out there john beeline who did a great job. You know we were. We were irrelevant for a long time basketball. Wise and john put us back on the map. He started recruiting players that turned into three or four year players that now become really good. Prose duncan robinson. Trey burke tim hardaway junior and Like for him to take the baton. The we have and i was disappointed in a ucla law. That's a game daughter. I saw you know. I was at the game. I went to a couple of sea tournament games. And of course as a fan and the crazy alum. I'm always be hurt when we don't go undefeated and win at all but having a number one recruiting class and being in the living room the top players and top Transfers and like having that for the program really feels good. And i'm really happy that he brought that back especially since we all know jalen we heard about he can't. The michigan shouldn't in terms of his hiring. And what does he you know that. He he paid his dues as an assistant In the association. But you know he's never done this at college and he was smart enough to reach out to phil martelli and he's smart enough to to be in believing himself and And what he did last year was remarkable. And now we're already hearing like you know. Celtics jobs open. Who wouldn't want to coach you know Jaylen brown and jason tatum. The portland's job. is open. And who wouldn't want to. Maybe take ron damian lillard. You're hearing his name mentioned already. How concerned should i be. Do you think jalen here well. Well he's a professional and there's a price of doing business and you and i both know you can really love your college but if one of those situations come with a blank check you gotta reconsider your life just how this works and the kind of money that coaches have been hitting. Look at matt rhule's con- you went from college to the pros. He got a major deal The kind of money. That collegiate coaches are getting professional. Elite level coaches are getting is astronomical. But i know his heart is in ann arbor. I know that he wants to bring a national championship back to the school. And we do have the number one recruiting class coming in next year. And i know he's excited. He and his staff of coaching. And so i would tell you to breathe easy that i anticipate that he'll still be with us for the foreseeable future and committed to doing all of the things he said. Its initial press conference. Jalen rose here on the rich eisen show And we'll put a pin in the Wolverine conversation for a second. I want to circle back. Well i mean we could listen to us. Talk about michigan. Okay i could. I know i know that. I want to put a pin in it just for the moment because i could do all of that and there is so much going on in the playoffs as well. I know you are to jalen. You're the best man so I seeing the way. The nets have performed without harden. Just play just one minute and they have just absolutely spanked the box What what what makes us think anybody could take care of the nets once hardened does potentially come back in these playoffs. Assume he will Despite how significant this hamstring injury could be. Read me this situation. So i can't front. I'm disappointed in the book. I actually picked them the win. This series and of james harden go out. The first minute of the first quarter is one thing to lose that game okay. blake griffin. Was kaiser soza in detroit. You're surprised he backed dunkin. Now got it okay. You didn't understand the joe hairs you know. One of the best catch shoot players. We have in the league okay. Bang he got going. We know we're kadian kyri can do. They were amazing. They're magicians when they get going stress. They wanna wants it okay. I'll give you gain one but then you come on game two trailing by forty nine points at some point of the game that's just unacceptable and they have the rain and mvp and janas who voted for when he won the mvp andy fiscal year to year. And the the one thing about this season. And i also picked the bucks so when the series i was betting on chemistry i was betting on cohesion. I talked about them. Adding jrue holiday and believing in middleton. The elephant in the room is once the playoffs start. Janas can't make shots outside of the paint. He's made five. He's like five or thirty. Five outside of the paint in the playoffs is twenty. Three for forty three from the free throw. The game is so tough when your best player superstar player can't make shots and then on the other end when k. D. one is double crossover and hitting his lau Step back jumper and getting the and one that was over youngest and then we'll tyree stroll up like yet roker park and do the same thing that was over jaanus and well blake griffin donkin again. That was over youngest. And so as this is happening the rest of your roster team coaches status to and you become so demoralized that you'll get beat the beating game too so i think effort is going to be there for the bucks in game three. I anticipate they're going to win game three but i want to make sure. I celebrate the greatness of k. D. and kyri true enough but i can't act like i wasn't severely disappointed in how the books play both gangs when they were in brooklyn so then let's just say You will be alternately disappointed by the box and hardened jurist in the middle of your answer was ruled out for game three who who can dispatch with the nets. Is it a sixers team. Should they get past the hawk. Could the hawks do it if they prove to be so plucky or is it somebody in the west or nobody demure answer on your first blush response. Here's the thing if you're in the eastern conference and you're the field and you can't beat the nets without james harden you know. You're you're really in trouble the next few years so i want to believe james harden doesn't come back and he's not healthy against philadelphia who anticipate will be atlanta who outplayed expectations. So far and continue to do so and trae young in bogdonovich and been outstanding but Like the nets are bonetti. Shouldn't be beating teams about forty nine points and you would hope as a professional team. They shouldn't advanced in the east without james heart and so i wanna believe the balance affiliate with beach post up Simmons and five defensive ability. Milton the curry shot making ability. I would hope just because it philly can play multiple styles that they should be able to beat the nets especially of james harden his implant jalen rose here on the rich eisen show co host of jalen jacoby from espn nba countdown and again. The founder of the jalen rose leadership academy with john. Wanna talk about a second here on the rich. Eisen show fellow michigan man. Rob pelinka should do what this offseason. Just sit back and say let's just get everybody healthy. Run it back like the changes that i made the bubble Affected pretty much everybody. And maybe even the mvp the league Yokich might feel the results shortly but or do they have to make significant changes here in los angeles significant changes because none of the cornerstones. We'll be routed not raw Who's already as we know. Won the championship with a lot of things going to be. There won't be any change. Refrained vogel and obviously won't be any change lebron ad so as you deeper into the roster. It's like okay are we going to re-sign finish ruder. He turned down. Eighty million dollar deal. He did perform well in the playoffs. And it's never good when magic johnson tweets that you're not a laker. They're just not good. It's not good for negotiations. Oh you look dennis router and then you look at mantras herald. Grab the player option. He went from the clippers. The lakers he thought he was going to increase value decreases value. So he probably op back in. So i believe nine mill next year and then the third piece is cow. Kuzma who most people should remember they. He's an asset like he was taking late in the first round You lose ball lose ingram. You still hold onto him. And all of a sudden he becomes a rotation flare not consistent player but his game just isn't an equal fit with lebron a d up front. It just like they're going to. It's just not an equal fit. So those are the three players schreuder mantras hero and calm. they're gonna be like any changes to their rotational players. Other than the guy they picked up late like an andre drama. You know margaret soul guy that you know they pick up. They get bought out or you know get disgruntled at another situation. So i say you stay patient and stay. Pat is just a wide open championship this year. You're still hope to have a healthy lebron and You hope in theory you could allow a for the entire regular season. That's the biggest question. Mark jalen rose in the few minutes left with you. Let's get into the leadership academy on. How can we help so they. We actually have a senior barbecue from one to five. It's a little rainy outside. I don't know if you heard me pause. But i literally looked outside and like it's raining. I can't believe it because it was raining. When i just walked in the house but we're open enrollment which wishing free republic charter founded the school in two thousand and eleven on profit. A couple of things that make us unique and special is that we're not these sixteen model so we have four hundred plus scholars in high school and have another five hundred which will be six hundred plus when this year's graduates happ that's amazing secondary education. That's college military community college military community college trade school and so We're nine through sixteen model. When i'm really proud at graduation is going to be this saturday and We graduate approximately eighty three young people just this year as well and so i'm really just excited about the the the the the students and the families building believing in my vision all of the donors. We have an amazing board. I have an amazing co-founder. It's been a labor of love and i truly appreciate a lot of the sponsors. But we're taking sports and we're also influencing the community because tom gores and the pistons they've been a terrific supporter. They've been terrific donor and they committed to help with our expansion and this ross. The owner of the miami dolphins of courses also committed to contribute to our expansion and so big shots davis elkin foundation as well and to jeep who've albeit terrific sponsor so being a nonprofit and and being tuition free we get zero state funding for facility zero state funding so i took an elementary school and converted it into a high school and so now our goal is to expand more classrooms. That college jim and I'm really excited about the progress of the school. And when you in the city. I gotta give you a tour man. You gotta come check out the still no i would. I would love it you are. They know about the show. I would really love it. You castors i would love it i really do. I really would You know and people could go to. Jr l. a. detroit dot com to learn more about this This jewel in northwest detroit The great state of michigan. I'm so proud to see you doing this. Jalen and what you've done with your platform and what you're doing with your platform. It means so much and now. That's where i want to remove the pin on the michigan chat. I saw you in see web chatting on the world wide leader in sports. And i gotta tell you it. It gave me pleasure. I i couldn't have been more happy. It gave me a big smile And i saw that see webb told. Dan patrick that the to you still need to get into a room. How can i. Can i do that for your. Can i get you a room can is. That is that need to happen with you. Increase it get. Let's get ju. Ju just make it. A presidential order a lot of champagne order a lot of lobster and let it sit there for thirty minutes. And then we invite the other three members of the crew in us on in black and white zoot suits and big hats. Big feathers show how we win and scored a game and the game of life. So that's it you just need do you need a couple minutes is at Would you agree with that assessment. That the two of you still need a couple minutes to hash. something out. well i can i can. I can't lie. Well well here. Here's the overarching point. The overarching pointed that. We're long time friends. That became brothers and they've been some turbulent times days weeks months years in our relationship but we're still family and so the and i want to iron it out. Our goal is to iron out. I believe we will. Aren't it out and there will be a time. There's gonna be a time. They're going to be at time. We ann arbor michigan. And i'm going to have a fresh cut now. I'm going to be suited and booted like not suppose to and we're gonna be watching juwan howard costa team to victor's gosh confident shop. The ray jackson shopping jimmy king is gonna have. I can't wait for something like that to happen. Jalen and then. I guess to wrap it all up. You've mentioned style and fashion and And it's very important when we are talking about the fab five and that's how i want to turn things over to my social media. Grammy strategic jefferson to ask you about what he asked john about just a few weeks ago. Tj i will give you the floor in the few minutes we have left with jalen. Please go for a what up. Jalen what up doe. So you know it's funny man if you told me back in nineteen ninety one when i was sitting impress row watching you drop twenty points pittsburgh at the dapper dan game then. Twenty twenty one. We'd be on the rich eisen show detailer. Mcdonald's games s indeed favorite game. And i saw it. I was there. I was a baseline. If i recall correctly. Watch you do your thing. So if you'd have told me in two thousand twenty one be on the rich eisen show wanna peacock talking. I mean my mind is blown away. Where i said. What do you mean by that too. I mean so crazy but jalen you know raising way back in those days bro. I know for a fact that well not for fact. I heard that you know you really wanted spandex on your shorts because his shorts too short they didn't give it to you and i'm sure you didn't put an all that work at basketball city in detroit to make these shorts longer the way you guys dating as you being the architect of the fab five. Look you got those baggy shorts in the turned everybody in the world onto that look and now these kids men there. I don't know if it's cross fit in. They're happy with what they're quads. Looked like but these schwartzman. They're they're north again a little tight getting a little short. Talk to jalen in sorry talked to chris and join about it so i could ask jalen. How do you feel about the shorts creeping up by so. Don't tell anybody. But i was born in the seventies. And that's how my favorite players growing up used to wear them when i was watching the game and so whether it's magic bird like doctor j. Isaiah thomas but he he. Dennis rodman john stockton probably had classic shorts like it was almost like soft porn type. I with all of these cameras available like madness shack with some small short falling down right. Ab bursting out on things like the incredible hulk. And so i believe that fashion transcends and bought away way check out renaissance man every thursday a column. I write for the new york post and the podcast that are. I'm very happy to report that. We were recently top. Ten in the united states has some great great guests on there and on that i talk fashion and entertainment and lifestyle. And what is happening if we think we're thinning something but it's already dancing. How many times you guys been in the car with a younger person and listen to a song like it's the first time that that's all that beat has been made. Okay so say keeps on. Tv they may be young but they're ready people thinking i'm thinking beyond say right right and so that's what make it a good like good catchphrase because you grabbed audiences with it but back to what you were saying and what is happening is when people see that one look got mastered a lot of people that are creative things. I'm i'm go another direction. I'm gonna switch it up. I'm flipped it and so like okay. They were along there. I'm aware you saw various college players. Try to do it like there's a young man big shot the memphis penny hardaway joke with him when he was on our show about this. He has a gallon his team. That where's the really small shorts and one time he had a breakaway layup. He missed it. And i promise you it was because of the shore not i mean he just go saying y'all got loosen up got going there strong finish that and so i think is that also but now things are more erode dynamic like you look back at things like looking. Lebron oversized suit when he got drafted or look at some of the nba players. They were on nights shows in the nineties and stuff like that. Ford was wearing kulaks rent. They were oversized. How about a guy that went to the draft. A red white pinstriped suit with a red maury. He was looking for us to death. Oj who you think. Somebody's gonna take you in the top three dress like that like did you. What were you thinking. You know what i'm saying but either way we're seeing right now jalen. We got up on the screen at that. Look oh my gosh. Denver nuggets the away. If it's a really big pitcher. I had like a pimple underneath my. I was trying to pop all night just like a bottle. My face like that always happens on the big stage. Something like that happens when you grew up in the hood. Never been the dentist. Never been to the dermatologist. And you bought to get drafted tomorrow. Got jerry cross one phone and you got the alcohol your hand trying to pop a bump so for for for young people who switch up the shorts. It's just because they're just trying to change the game a little bit. You know. But i appreciate you know the influenced we have had on the game. We continue to have on the game but it sparked by the people sparked by the culture and it was birth by people still believe enough at that time and rich. You notice as well as anyone if you saw me a dapper dan. You definitely know that. I that i've seen the cosmic shift of being disliked and hated to being appreciated. Because if you do a list of most hated college basketball players. I'll probably be on it. And i feel like i'm a likable person. Jalen rose him. That's jail and thanks for the call. Best tamale love seeing what she's up to these days man sense and our best to To your wife my brother in law don't hesitate to reach out about any. I will do that you same to you. That's jalen rose. 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On peacock with something from our archives until the radio audience comes back people who watch us every day we We we going down memory lane while the radio audience goes away for much longer period than our peacock audience who we adore. And we love showing you some stuff from our past but sometimes things happen on social media. That doesn't really translate to a radio audience for us to show you for instance Jay bilas center if you call it this on his instagram account. This weekend and not he played in a Remember he came on our show to talk about coach k. Cenis playing in his member or like an amber guest and charlotte or something like that feldman Formerly of espn was his partner. Something like that Here go here was Here's john is instagram. Account breaking down his performance while the seventh hole was really pivotal in the match. And for me you know after Hitting a great tee shot and really. I put my best swing on the provisional. And i was really impressed with my low point control on the chip out sideways Then i had to make a decision You know. I was thinking talking about caddy. I was thinking what would tiger do. what would what would justin. Thomas do Tiger probably hit the stinger Jt would probably go with the trap draw. I decided to go with the the skull shot of mine. I pull it off routinely. And i- i scott the hell outta chips later Twenty feet for you know twenty feet and you know it's good Can i tell you. I mean they gave it to me because i was out of the whole feeling and doing something that The tiger jacket never done now. I white or v light actually v flight of the member gusto. They've never done that. I've got a chance to do. It feels great man after you have no idea how many times i watched that over and over and over again. He chose the skull. F- what he chose. Oh my perfect thing. Are the trap draw. No i went with the skull perfect. He also did another one go on his instagram account. He did another one where he was talking about his Partner or getting ready to do it and felt he walked by and he pulled a kepco where he just like rolled his eyes as he walked by very funny face. Twenty twenty feet. They gave it to me. Because i was out of the whole world. We've all been there. Perfect pitch control on the pitch out sideways or perfect low point. Oh my gosh. That's my golf game. Well john jay bilas done round of applause from the rich eisen show crew here on peacock. Well done back here on the rich show on our radio audience as well. We were a little bit late for this desk is jalen rose your question to him. About how the short shorts that he did so much to make fashionable and bring into basketballers creeping back up. You asked c. web. Now you've asked juliana now ass jalen. Tice gotta get jimmy king and ray jackson complete at all. Maybe even steve fisher just eight. Four four two four riches the number two dollars management many a moon a front office of the green bay packers and he joins us here now on the rich eisen show To give his perspective you can catch. His sport is business of sports. Podcast and sunday seven newsletter. Free dear email every sunday morning at andrew. Brandt dot com andrew. Brandt here on the rich eisen. Show how you been sir and mean well my friend good to be with you and You know whenever we talk about. Aaron i think i wanna give some perspective fifteen years ago. You know. we take aaron. in the first round. Everyone hated the crowd below us at lambofield boots. So hard shook our souls that we took aaron rodgers and then it was three years rich. You know it was three years of managing these relationships where i'm dealing with brett farve camp pretty much every week or so you know andrew dina what it's like to come into work every day and sit with your replacement it's not fun. It's not fun and then errands camp would be is he ever gonna play like press. Never going to retire. So is the ever gonna play there. What are you gonna do and you just try to be professional and tactful and understanding. But you don't have the answers and if you did you don't wanna give the answers because you wanna main flip maintain flexibility as an organization to win you. Make the move and turn the over tan. Rogers that's what happened now. You fast for fifteen years. They've done the same thing again. Tonight said it could day. They drafted jordan love. I hope they're ready to manage this. Forget about on the field. Are they ready to manage. And this is what i mean about management. You're gonna have agents and perks feelings and wanting answers all the time all the time and i don't know if they've managed it well because aaron was a good soldier you know. Brett called seconds after the pick and he was livid but aaron said all the right things. But you could tell after the championship game. He was kinda like you know. What are we doing here. And i think the packers all along in my mind no inside knowledge on this was to move to jordan love and twenty twenty two and i get the sense that earns like what am i doing here you know. I'm you want me to be placeholder while the nba people leak. So i think it's control of time line is what's at issue here well and there's a couple of questions of what you just said I guess in a preamble to start our conversation here. Yeah drew Is that there are some differences. One that i know and one that i'm wondering about let's start with the one that i'm wondering about. Did you guys give far heads up that you were going to take aaron rodgers or you couldn't really do that because you didn't expect him to fall down a twenty four unless you watched mike mayock preview on. Nfl total access days before the draft where he nailed it. So did you get of a heads up before making the pick for no. We did not we did. Not and as you said two things happen that night number one all the players we have raided us first round grades except one were taken and the one that was still on the board was not taken by all these teams that had told him to his face. If he was there they take so. We had a lot of conversation. And those combustible moments before the pick and the coaches crazy like. Why would we do that. He's not gonna help us this year maybe next year maybe never and ted thompson bless. His heart looked at me and everyone else and said well andrew. What do we always say. Trust the board. Trust the board. And i said you know that's gonna be upset. Fans are gonna be upset. Gonna be upset. Come to coal place where he's not gonna play and he said i don't care you know we trust the board here and he had the fortitude to do that so no brett did not find out to the rest of us and like i said he called the coach within seconds and i cook called me within seconds. Some what happened. You know bus is like what the f. were doing. You wanna play them. And i just said you know we have to prepare for the future you know. Organizations have to evolve at some point but is gonna retire. There obviously been rumors up to that point. We gotta be prepared. And then as i said it was the cavalcade over years of you know not great walking into work everyday sitting with your replacement. That's so fun. And i i said i get that. But we've got prepares organization and so what was far as Commentary about he called. He called the coach writer. He called mccarthy right away. No since the last year. Mike sherman the sherman He did call. And you know. I think those conversations were ongoing. And that's going going love ongoing attests ongoing until later he retires. We turned the team over to erin. And as i suspected. Gosh i wish. I you know he'd get the itch and he did of course and there was that fateful day. I think it was june twentieth. Nineteen two thousand eight. Mike mccarthy said three words that no player wants to hear and he said it to a hall of famer that was the face of the franchise for twenty years. He said we've moved. And when i heard you know when i saw bus and brett hear those words it was almost like this is the most poignant ever heard he said. I'm sorry we've moved on and we were not gonna take the keys from aaron and give them back to breath. That's just not what we're gonna do. Andrew brand of course the site. Of course yeah yeah. Andrew brand of Starts illustrative form. Packers executive right here on the rich eisen show and one thing though is we're strolling down memory lane here about the remarkable similarities between the time that you were there when you drafted aaron rodgers along with ted thompson And far was in the building. And now rogers in the role of farve and jordan. Love is in the role of rodgers. And you said you got calls from farms representative and bus cooks and what gives and you got a call from rogers representative saying what gives the difference is now is jordan love and aaron rodgers represented by the same agent. David done so. What do you think. The david don conversations with brian. Khuda kunst like right about now. Andrew what do you think well as a former agent you know if you look at it from a three hundred sixty degree view. The best scenario for the agent is probably having aaron running one team in jordan. Running the packers you know. Because then he'd have to starting quarterbacks in the situation where you can only have one. I don't know you know the the whole thing to me. Rich people talked about money and upgrading pass mahomes and doing perjury guarantees and the contra like you don't even get to the money the money's easy that's what i did for ten years. We can figure that out but you don't get to the money until you figure out. What is the problem here. And what concerns me. The most this whole thing is that the floor good accounts and murphy reportedly have been out there and sat in la and sat in front of their and tried to address the grievances. And here we are. You know people asked. What would i. Of course i do think thing i'd get in front of them. Close the door. Lock the bathrooms. What's the problem. How can we fix it. But it sounds like that's happened. So now where do you go. And ultimately it's up to her. And i mean they're not trading them they're not trading they're not trading they may trade him in twenty twenty two they're not trading them in twenty twenty one so then the ball's gonna be an earns court so the options are to hold out and then get through training camp and i mean the conversation is about taking place about a half an hour before expecting to hear from jordan love. You know already bahktiar and davante adams of answered the question. The floor is coming up with different ways to say. I don't have an answer where we'd love to have him back. I'm only going to coach the guys that i'm here. I'm like he's gonna it's june seventh and eighth now and we're running out of that time ninth. What's going gonna be like july. August ninth september ninth. You know what we just saw jordan. Love struggle in his. you know Many camp drills i invariably he would struggle week one against the saints my lord. So really like. That's the way this is going to play out. You think andrew thing that line spur action rights was not a deadline in my mind. There's no deadline to mini camp. How they can find them ninety thousand. They probably won't opinion. Then you get to training camp. They have to find them according to see be. They can't return those funds fifty thousand a day but i don't think training camps a deadline. Either i think like you just intimated deep into training camp. There'll be some kind of deadline but again errands. You know. once you get past holdouts rich what are the to their two options playing for the packers or not playing football. And i know aaron doesn't want to retire. I think if he retires it would be a total feeling like he can't participate in this organization anymore somewhere along the way. There's been a breach of trust between the front office and erin and i don't know what it is it's way beyond jordan love and calling him draft room and all that that's not it i just think there's he doesn't have someone in that office that he feels he can trust and something has breached that relationship. There's no fix andrew ms. That's that that's the the ultimate a less. Aaron gets over. The the lack limit of phrase whatever breach has occurred. That's basically what you're saying to me right here on this wednesday of mandatory minicamp that he did not show up at that's essentially and and i'm saying having been in that chair for ten years the packers front office chair. I get what they're trying to do. They're trying to have their cake and eat it too. They're trying to have the mvp get them to another championship. Game super bowl in twenty twenty one and then move on and give love a real opportunity of backup this year. And i get it but aaron sitting there saying i'm not down with that. Of course you know. You want me to be a placeholder. While i'm the mvp league so to me it's like a battle for you. Know errands probably fan. And maybe they've done saying let's do this now. you know. let's do it now. why wait. Why weightier because the packers like we don't. We do want to wait a year. We want aaron rodgers level of talent and then maximize trade value in march. So then i guess the last question for you andrew is is is did did they just meet our andres. I mean you know what. I mean like In all honesty you know a good acoustic has been there. Since what ninety seven he had a front row seat to everything that you're kind of talking about right now all right and mark murphy's been there forever and a day. He's had a front row seat. did they. Just meet the guy. I mean like you know. What are you expect like he. He knows when he's being managed he knows twenty. Twenty two is the time he gave him a freebie in twenty twenty. He's not going to give them a freebie and twenty twenty one. He's already said that. Like what do you expect. That's a great question. You know aaron as well as i do what you just described he can. He can put people as he calls it on. Blast and listen. Ted thompson was an elite evaluator but he was not a communicator and he said to me and john schneider and richard mckenzie and john dorsey. You guys do that. And i don't know if brian has that or has it's trying to do it himself. You know i'm sure bryan. The lead evaluator as well and he is. He doing the communication. Is he having someone else do that. Are they getting stilted between him and murphy and runs ball. I mean it just sounds like exactly what you said like. What are they missing with. Aaron and why are these meetings in la not advancing the ball little. So i'm left scratching my head as you are andrew. Thanks the time. The businesses sports podcast host the m pubic columnist and also get his sunday seven newsletter. Free delivered to your email every sunday morning. You sign up but andrew dot dash brandt. Andrew dash brant b. r. a. n. d. t. dot com. Let's continue this conversation. Thanks for the call sir. Thanks rich talk to you bet. That's andrew brandt. Follow him on twitter at andrew. Brandt i do as well. Wow her name. Jordan love stock in in about fifteen minutes. Apparently won't keep an eye out for that and we're gonna not update okay. Let's take a break when we come back. That's how we set up ian rapoport. Our number three on the rich eisen show. 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You read the twitter bio and you begin to think something could be up because it says former nbc sports broadcaster twenty one time emmy award winner eleven time olympic host president and so member of the bbc. Fc bob costas fan club. Doesn't sound like bob. So i wanted to make sure that we're all buttoned up and inviting a here on the rich eisen show to discuss this. Very subject is none other than the real actual one hundred percent authentic. Bob costas power you bob. I'm goodrich late last night. And then again this morning. When i woke up dozens of texts some claiming it must be real some saying this can't be true and one said this is the best indication that hell has frozen over the. Oh four red sox or the twenty sixteen cubs. But i am here to assure you and everybody else that the fires of hell are still very much blazing. Because i am absolutely not on twitter. They have taken the boldest account down. And i began thinking. What would actually what i have to do. I ever gained to be on twitter. What like binge watch the real housewives of orange county. They can return trip to so she just with a nostalgic of harnessing face get ball. Or or just for you care for you rich. Make a special trip to the nfl combat. Those things happen ever on twitter. Prequel to basketball would be pretty epic equal like. Yeah you know what. I have to admit that so brothers asked me to do a sequel especially with al michaels at my side baseball. It must it must be done okay. So this is the real bob. Costas twitter needs that. Oh my gosh. I mean of all the things in the world. So did you did. You did you Your son tweeted it out that this is not you when i saw the the first green. Grab that keith. Sent to me one tip off should be look. I'm a reasonably humble and self effacing guy but what. I knowingly short-changed myself seven emmys a number of ami's right. I said forty one little. Pull a scam. His finest back here on the rich eisen show. Okay so let's do it again. Chris you did. I rob demovsky of. Espn was live. tweeting jordan. Loves first mandatory. Minicamp outing that he could see That the the media was allowed in on didn't go very well. Bears fans were celebrating. We're talking about. The heaping turned up. Aaron rodgers and not being there to turned it up got to be fair and balanced. We got to do it again. Certainly jordan loves about to speak to the media. Question is did that affect his performance knowing that he would be facing the glaring spotlight answering questions that he's prepared to answer but really shouldn't have to answer. It's not his doing in that respect. We just talked to andrew brandt being back in the day in the draft room when they drafted rodgers and the packers for an office getting the call from bus cook. Far agents saying what the f. david dunn represents both quarterbacks rogers and jordan love if you think rogers was surprised by this. What do you think david done. Thought now put in a situation where he knows what this will mean to his client. Aaron rodgers one of his most important clients and why not in jordan love who he signed and we can't wait to turn into the next rodgers. now they're on the same team he probably was going. What the hell now it. He's probably just as angry as rodgers has been the entire time house jordan. Love doing today chris. Well rich if yesterday was the wo- today's the high complete numbers yet. Okay out of packers minicamp but twenty five minutes ago rob demovsky did tweet quote. What a stretch for jordan love wheel route to. Aj dylan writes sideline. thirty arts. Free play deep to allen lazard for forty five a. b. He's got the caves. The rogers cadence getting people jumping off sides. Let's take a free plane. Take a shot to allen. Lazard deep corner route to john. Winfrey fa thirty steep sideline to aaron jones for thirty years so fire. The titans coach justin out and started fanning. Him added ten minutes ago and now love leads. A drill winning drive in the two minute He could do it yesterday. Capping a seventy yard drive with an eight yard leaping td catch by alan he's Closures rogers zoo. It's a week to week league in the regular season in mandatory minicamp. Its data daily. Hey it's a wrap. I'm just going to say rep to wrap yesterday. It was aaron sitting back home wherever he is. Why malibu santa jeopardy whatever doing anywhere any wherever he is. He sitting there cigar lit hands behind his head feet up on a desk. Like red. auerbach. How do you like me now today. Jordan love does the thing. Now's like who needs aaron rodgers. Tables have been turned. You know what though rubbers gonna have to meet the road and again the national football league. If you don't mind putting the green bay packers schedule up. Mister hoskins obey the national football league and howard katz and mike north and the rest of the group that puts together. The schedule decided. We're going to not turn back from our plan. We're going to keep the packers on our schedule. And we're going to give america a front row seat to whatever the hell the first four weeks is gonna look at new orleans late window fox. Everybody who turns on fox on sunday. September twelfth will see this game with the exception of a couple of regional battles. Cbs has got a late windows. A double by the way Doubleheader rarity. cbs has got the late window browns. And the chief. So while you're brown chief. Sing with nansen romo. You've got balkan aikman packers at new orleans and then the monday night after the home opener in lambo is week to packers hosting detroit then week three is the sunday night. Game on nbc. Where green bay's back in the warm confines if you will of the forty niners the nfc championship game. I one they lost with rogers in the floor together and then week four is late window. Cbs anybody turns on. Cbs will most likely watch romo nance calling green bay hosting pittsburgh. Wow in lambofield. That's the first four weeks. So we'll all you want to. Aj dylan today and struggle in the red zone yesterday and do it today. June eighth and ninth ain't the first four weeks of the regular season so anybody sitting out there for even a split second. Same all rogers as toast because your knee jerk reacting to your rep to rep league but good for jordan love man. It's better than the alternative. Which was yesterday. Getting better and rodgers hold out is given love the reps that he didn't get last year. Oh man andrew brandt basically just said packers aren't trading him and they're gonna put us in a position of holding out and not playing at all this season. That's where he sees this going. 'cause they're not trade them and rogers in david dunn's agent according to andrew brandt in his read of the leaves are basically saying if you're going to trade him next year let's just do it now and the packers like we'd like to win we there now. Oh man at the standoff. We'll talk about it with the in rappaport coming up by the way the next four games in easy cash call the national football league because after that who the hell knows about cincinnati bengals this year. Who the hell knows what if they can put a forty two one. you know right ashikaga or the bears. Who's going to be their starting quarterback yemen. That's an early window game on fox as the fits. Magic run out by week. Men in week seven at tampa late window. Cbs countries that and then halloween early window game hosting sanford hope. I'm giving the bear schedule. My bad by so green. Bay's at the bengals bears the near the washington football team at home at arizona thursday night at kansas city november seventh home for seattle after all the ram. I mean it's really hard. This is a really hard schedule as schedule. Waterbed speaking of washington football team First day of school yesterday For everybody's america's newest sweetheart ryan fitzpatrick your that one up there. Don't mind okay. Who's idea was this. I don't know great. Wf t- Social teen social team squad right there. You go first day of your seventeen. My teacher is mr rivera. I am eight years old. I'm seventy four inches. Tall friends are and curtis samuel. I mean look love i mean. He's tightened it all up tight. The lid and a beard looks. I mean it's it's flowing but it also looks like it's under control. It's perfect today. They posted a video with a cicada attached to his beard. We don't we don't understand that out here in southern california. Thank god we don't cut those pallets out of control. Yeah it Grounded the presidential day was from the world cup or do it. That's what it sounds like all the time. No kidding remember. Sam as a kid and i don't remember the sound as a child. I had him twice before i moved out. Because they're intently love making with each other. Oh is that what is by the way. Stop kidding new fancy name. The cicadas are avatar making table with our for twenty twenty one. that's it by several not understanding.

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Hour 4: Putting A Stop To It

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Hour 4: Putting A Stop To It

"The keyshawn jay williams zubin podcast is brought to you in part by progressive. Have you tried the name your price tool yet. It works just the way it sounds. You tell progressive how much you want to pay car insurance and they'll show you coverage options that fit your budget. It's easy to start a quote and you'll be able to find that works for you. It's just one of the many ways you can save with progressive. Get your quote today at progressive dot com and see why four out of five new customers recommend progressive progressive casualty insurance company and affiliates price and coverage match limited by state law g. Jay williams zubin podcast. Bron james going to have to do it on his own for apps. Can he do it on his own at this point. We've seen him do it before on his own we've seen him carry injury riddled lineups to the finals. We've seen actually win a finals. Game with injury riddled. Lineups swallowed them down. Two thousand seventeen. You go go ahead drew gooden. We'll be gibson eric snow. Let's marshall quality damon jones. Yeah how about two eighteen jordan clarkson. Jr smith george hill. Jeff green jose calderon matthew belva dove. Oh he's done before they they've had that year where kevin love and kyrie irving both were injured by the time you get to the finals. And then you buddy. But he got there now kevin love. They were missing the earlier in the playoffs. Mistake but j you said something earlier in the show and this is regarded again lebron with a situation now where he has. The the groin strain left the game. Now he's dealing with that and his availability is what you wonder now. This the series is tied at two and going back to phoenix in a pivotal game. Five and you're asking lebron jay that he's got to do it one more time that you've got to become super super that you've got to do it again. The question at this point is thirty six years. Old kenny kenny. Lebron is always seem like he's been featured against father time i mean. He has morphed into superhuman multiple times. Thirteen fifty point games without a d. Against a team and c. p. three who's playing injured in devon booker. This is one of the biggest games. I have lebron james his career now i know he's thirty six years old. He will say when. I'll see you want from him. You're looking for a super human performance tonight. You're looking for him to elevate his team. And every time i don't off the backboard alex cruz says you feel when you watch him. He zimmerman is guy but tonight it can't be a pedestrian night. Pedestrian night means twenty five and thirteen. Which is crazy to say. Tonight has to be an absurd performance for lebron james to catapult. His team with the likes of alex caruso casey p cow coups mma market soul andre drummond. He has to take them to levels that they haven't seen before we go see tonight again. Tonight's game five. Ten o'clock eastern lakers sons and for the sons obviously unimportant game for them to. Don't give the lakers any life. Right now with question marks about anthony davis and his availability. I think i think the more the pressure is on drumming right because he was brought in and be that other right in the way that aiden is been able to to be so efficient in his scoring. I think this can be a gang where he can just go off right. He can have one of those dominant games like he had in game one and the brian can't stop that he's not responsible to stop that they brought in drummer to be a defensive stopper a rebounder and he hasn't lived up to expectations right. And i think that's going to be where they miss the white house. Willingness mcgee guys who can be able to play in space coming off a pick and roll and be able to be athletic drumming. just not what. He's been advertised to beat right. He's not the modern big. Even if you're not a modern big shoot the three like you know lopez or joel embiid. You still need to be a big man. That can be able to kind of plan space. Better knock down some type of bucky you know. He lives in a paint where lebron's going to be have to be super aggressive to try and get there are. Here's a problem. Now all your pick and rolls are one dimensional right. So andre drummond pick and roll. He has to roll. Never going to pop markelle soul that pick and roll. He has to pop. We're going to roll right right with a you have both. Which way do you want it. He can met. he was attacking. He was attacking the pain he was. I mean he was thirty a game in the in the series so after that thirteen point game one he started attacking was coming a beast. But you go small and try and just run right because you know. Cpi three wants to slow everything down and it has the score down to do you go small and just get out and run so lebron have opportunities and put as many shooters around him as you can and just try and win the transition. The transition battle. I mean you could go small and have lebron guard. Alexa the andrea in i mean. But now you're asking the brand to do a lot. You're asking the brand of banged down low you. You can't do that no under you. You mentioned a bar dramas got better. I don't know if he can be better because eytan is destroying him right now in the series wh whenever he is out on the floor. It's not it's not a fair fight and he doesn't everything or cpi three c. P. three's engine. Oh yeah offense. So that's where you need. A guy like casey p. I know he's gonna guard devon booker. But you need somebody. Alex russo. Like you have to meet. Cpi three so early like as soon as he turns around and takes the ball of inbound. Pass meet him make him work you the tire him out. Let's get some calls in here. We'll get back into the conversation. Ryan ruka gonna join us in a few minutes. Eight eight say. Espn eight seventy nine. Three seven seven. Six john jay. We'll zubin we are presented by progressive insurance august. Join us on. The goodyear hotline. Let's go to j new jersey. Go ahead j. Are you guys doing good. How are Good so j will use spurred me on to call you but first let me say i listened to your show because i couldn't stand the right wing side of the on the other side of the dial And i really appreciate. You know the social justice progressive. Take you guys have the j. Will you you spurred me to call you because you low. You lumped me together. With people who think that the athletes shouldn't be able to speak their minds and protests. Because i think that miami sock needs to speak. And i think she needs to speak because at yes because she's making a you know what amount of money but here's why the athletes are in the position to make that kind of money because the media pays for the rights to cover the sports and they pay for the rights to cover the sports because they get the take from the athletes that they can then share and then they feel like there's a reason for them to pay the billions of dollars that they do cover it on their network. That's part one part two is. I'm a teacher and yes. my job. is teaching the kids right. Just like asakusa is playing in your and your job as an athlete is to do your best job for your team but there are always other things that come along with jobs. I still have to have the conversations with the parents about the tough conversations about. Why did the student get whatever grade. They got there still conferences. There's still all sorts of things but that's even though. My job is being in the classroom to teach students. There're other things that are part of my contract that maybe i don't enjoy as much and it doesn't matter if i make eighty thousand dollars a year as a teacher or someone makes thirty five million dollars a year as an athlete. There are things that we need to do that. We we don't always love to do now if those things can be negotiated out in in a contract and i can say well. What if i'm going through mental health situation is there's somebody i can speak to so that i can pass along some responsibilities. That's great but if i signed the contract and that's part of my responsibilities like asakusa signed the contract through the whatever. It's a play at the french open. Well then you know you're going in knowing it. In addition to the fact that if you're at that level as an athlete you are going into a career knowing that you're putting yourself out there in front of the public and that's just part of j so a couple of things we're gonna leave your mic open. Because i i really appreciate you calling in First and foremost and let me say this like. There are a lot of things in my life that i am concerned about and a lot of things in my life. I'm very liberal. About just to give you an insight to who i am as a person. Okay number one. I have no problem with the fringe. Open making that remark. No problem you decide not to speak. That isn't workout. we're not the same page. Okay like there will be a fine. I owned businesses barton. Both do we talk. Certain things that i want my employees. Do okay fine. All i said jay was that for them to gang up all the grand slams together to make a statement to try to intimidate at a meeting at the table and saying hey you feel this way. Here's our stance. How do we find middle ground with this. Because she did do on court interview. Which i give her credit for so look for the broadcasts for the broadcast and the broadcast what they pay their rights for. They don't pay rights for. Hey let me get contact from your mouth. And then they paid for the rights to broadcast the actual match so we on the same page. Because i didn't let you into that category all my man. No you lumped. You said the same people who don't want the players to protest are the same people who think because they make a lot of money that they need to get up and speak. You are basically saying we. The people who think the same things are lumping players to animals. They should just do what they're told no new and i. I think you're completing what we were talking about his release to the nba and some of the things that happened and we had a separate conversation about naomi. Osaka there are two different conversations. I think you're you're bunching them together. Because i never said that i am a asaka. I i started calling. When i heard the comparison because i've considered myself somebody who wants to better myself when it comes to social justice is actually the reason why i listened to your show. I called once. That's the thing keyshawn for that. I'm northwestern granted. I saw you at you know the rose bowl and i mentioned in that call. I used to hate you and then you were drafted by my jets. And now i'm listening to you. Talk about social justice. And i want to listen to your show So i called in. Because i was being lumped into group of people for thinking that the athletes need to get out there and speak and do what. They're told when i think that they're two totally different issues but if we agree that they're totally different issues. Then you know. I'm i i'm fine with that i. I always the same as yeah. I really do think that you guys both kind of saying the same. Yeah we in different ways. Yeah i think he just kinda put the two conversations. Yeah no question about that. I'm having i'm all about having. Here's my thing if anybody wants to call in to our show and have constructive conversation. Let's do it. I'm down for that. You'll never hearing you're wrong. You're a moron. I'm always going to listen to your opinion and tell you my opinion. And that's fine middle ground. We mean more that by the way we have more in common than what we do apart in one of the things we were talking about also was these incidents that are coming up with fans at nba games. J. new jersey wants to discuss that jay going on how you doing what are they. Yeah i wanted to discuss the The issue with the The nba and how fans i feel like i feel like you guys. See the surge with the Fans get into the field throwing popcorn and everything. I feel like a lot of people i feel like. It's not right. it's not right. I agree with the situation. But i feel like a lot of fans they out of work and because of You know gambling and everything. A lot of a lot of fans are putting money in the pot. Pot like yo- 'cause you're not gonna you're not gonna throw popcorn on myles garrett all about scott like moscow would have ran through security. The stiff stiff. You know what i'm saying. Like i got to the fang. I feel like i have lots of to do with that. Even with the -ficiating like you know the rest of the nba. Gone soft a little bit. I'll tell you what jay thanks for the call. I'm surprised that refs aren't subject to things. Being thrown at them popcorn dumped on them. Because if you wanna be mad at anybody that's usually who you're mad at the opposing players just mad cause they won i think with katie said is really the best take on him just basically saying like i get it. You know it's been a year. We've kind of been cooped up in our houses we. I'm able to go out and enjoy ourselves. This your first opportunity to go out. You're getting caught up in the emotion of a loud crowd and energy playoffs. And you know you're acting up and he basically said it's you know don't use basic. Don't be that got you like. That's basically what he's saying is don't be that guy but i love the fact that least acknowledged i understand. We've all been cooped up like that part of it to me but is the awareness that katy showed which is why i feel like what he said. After the game the other night was so pitch perfect. But you know we live in a society now. Where if you go viral. It can be worth millions of dollars for you so some of these people are trying to get their moment in hoping that they can be the next. You know my hair. Don't move girl or something like that. So they can try and go out to become a mean monetize oriented. I've been a fool right or an f. T. yeah it's always something that that obviously now especially with social media it's going to be bigger than it really is it's and ryan ruko. Espn nba play by play announcer. You hear him on all the calls and a lot of the the playoff games rooks. Good morning thanks for joining us. I mean you see this going on right now and when you hear what katie said do you kind of feel like that's probably the best way to put it. Is it's epidemic issue for the league that suddenly this is a major problem. It's probably a little bit of both. It's probably yes some guys on to act but it's also people have been cooped up. They finally get out in crowds and they get a little crazy right now. Yeah i think what you said nailed a man. I thought that kevin durant had probably the best perspective of anyone. I've heard on this because he did acknowledge sort of this unique moment in time when it comes to people's mental health and people's emotions and i think that's even why we've seen just in general even outside of Obviously the deplorable acts. We've seen from certain fans. I think that's why we've seen such incredibly palpable atmospheres at these crowds. Because people are just like. I finally get to be at a game. And they're just they're going nuts and we've seen some incredible atmospheres It from basically every arena. That's had you know anywhere near full capacity up to this point so i think the rant nailed it. It's like hey we get it. We get that everybody's been pent up and they're trying to release their energy but obviously you just need to grow up. This is unacceptable behavior. And you know. I don't know if it's that different than what's happened in the past that games. I think we're just finally rightfully shining a light on it. For whatever reason. I think you know we've been accepting in the past of behavior that crosses the line we've kind of assigned it's a certain fan base and we talk about the vitriol places like philadelphia right with their crowds and we've kind of joked about how philly fans you know. That's the way they are and it's like no but that's not okay like they're still certain things that are not okay and i think what we're doing here is we're finally starting to shine a more focused life on what's not okay and trying to assign the appropriate repercussions those actions. So that it no longer is a part of sports because there are ways to route passionately and create the atmosphere. We all love without acting like a knucklehead or breaking the law. And i think we're finally trying to find that place of where we can appropriately. Call it out so that those actions taper away ryan was. What's the nba's response. Are they going to beef up security or they're gonna put more personnel within the crowd rather undercover or in uniform. So that we can. You know maybe prevent guys from running on the quiet. They run it on the court. I think is something that you know. It's the most scary because you never know what they're running for if they run on a court to grab a player or heard a player or if they're just running just trying to make themselves. Yeah that's a good question. I don't i don't know what their exact response will be. But i just know when it comes to problem solving and doing things with expedients There's nobody who. I have more faith in the nba. Because i think you know they have constantly showed us Their ability to be malleable and their ability to listen to their players and the players concerns. And i think there are really collaborative league and their a league that Absolutely act swiftly. I mean there's a reason why they sort of lead us into a pandemic response in march of twenty twenty right. And i think that i think that extra security could certainly be a part of it bart without me knowing the specifics and that would make sense especially because we know there is a copycat nature sometimes to be sort of things. And so you be you know on guard and then i think there's also going to probably be some further discussion about you. Know what are you know actual repercussions that will limit actions like this in the future. You know he's a ban enough or is there something more no. Is there something that you can do. And i don't know the legal ramifications of this. I'm speaking with an incredible naievety. But is there something you can do that. You know goes along with purchasing a ticket where you're sort of subscribing to. Hey if i by purchasing this ticket. If i do any of these things i'm already sort of subscribing to a guilty plea for this amount of jail time you know. Is there something you can do to say like. I know once. I walk in this building. If i throw anything you know on the floor. I'm going to spend sixty days in jail or whatever it might be. I don't know what the exact punishment would be. But i think that without knowing what the solution is. I'm sure there's an incredible level of creativity going on right now to try and find something that will actually make people think twice. And the other thing about this guy's and i've never understood this like hands. Get an entire re pointed this out the other day and you guys. Obviously you know you know this. Firsthand fans get belligerently drunk at games. And that's a huge contributing factor as well and. I don't know any way to try and control that. I've never understood it because for me as a fan even though i like having a drink or two it again i wanna know what's going on. I want to experience the game. I want to remember it. I could never understand. When i'd have like one guy in the group who go to the game be blacked out drunk and not remember the game and i'm like why are you going i. I never understood it a concert. I don't understand it at games. And i am someone who experiences drinking socially plenty enough to get the joys of it but i've never understood that and i don't know if there's any way to control that but that is part of why we see people acting the way they are once they're at these games ryan when i say this. I'm curious to hear what you think. In his first season back after an achilles injury where he misses half the year at thirty two years old kevin durant leads the playoff with thirty four point. Eight points per game with a career high postseason true shooting percentage of seventy percent. What do you say. Listen what. I what i think is i think i just laughed away. I laugh when i watch them. The where i always say like for me. The true test of absolute greatness is someone who is so great that even though everybody knows it you find yourself laughing and having to say it out loud. It's how i felt watching. Mary a rivera all all those years where he'd be like this guy. It's just ridiculous. It's it's ridiculous. And that's how. I feel watching kevin durant right now. I mean there were times. I saw this the other night where it's like. You can't do anything more than what the celtics are doing defensively and it just doesn't matter. He raises up and puts it in from twenty feet with a hand in the space on the turnaround jumper. And i think you know the fact that there was some curiosity as to how he would bounce back from injury probably has made us all appreciate even more deeply how unique his skills are and watching him right now. He is an un stoppable force. There's just absolutely nothing you can do on that end of the floor to make kevin durant miss. You just can't it. It's up to him and we know. Sometimes there's gonna miss but if he misses it's going to be because you know. The law of averages just happened sometimes but more often than not he's gonna make man. It's it's incredible watching him. Be as good a version of himself as we've ever seen after that injury and i also think it is a credit to you know the his dedication his comeback from injury but guys the thing that amazes me most about him is like we saw the shot the other night in pouring over the box store right on the bench with kyrie irving. And you know how you you know you watch your guy throughout the years and you have an appreciation for him but then if you watch him every night new level and the thing. I've appreciated watching every single. Wanna kevin durant postgame press conferences. This year is what a total savant. This dude is when it comes to the game and the way he's able to recite a box score right after the game. It's like listening to a coach breakdown film immediately after the game. What he comes to the post game press conference with is amazing and just a testament to the to the dedication to the sport itself and the love of the game. It's like i was saying earlier. He showed up at the playoffs this year. And it was like you know as i was saying before is rudely interrupted it right back to the player right before that that achilles went on him. It's pretty incredible stuff. Always good to talk to you ryan. Thanks so much. Are you gotta guys keep up the great work ryan ruko on the goodyear hotline you can hear him of course on the nba playoff games nba play by play. Also by the way on the yes network knows the nets very very well or to see too. You definitely want to check that out. 'cause about doesn't hold back not let's not so we're one hundred days. Have you heard a hundred days from the nfl season. How do i say apart do that right now. He practiced sounds like a hundred days the nfl season. What's more likely to happen. Aaron rodgers traded or skips training camp. We'll get to that after jay. has this from indeed. Keep it hundred or you or goodyear. Or whatever i got you. Goodyear knows that when the season starts heating up. So do the possibilities play off. Hopefuls are beginning to emerge and contenders are solidified. Their position from here on out bar. Every game is a chance to create momentum to make the right pass the right move. Hit the perfect shot. It takes momentum to build up to the moment but it takes everything to capture it. Goodyear more driven football is a team sport. But right now. This is a one on one battle. Aaron rodgers is winning it. Who is actually the biggest loser. Here is jordan low. Aaron definitely knows how we feel about them hopefully can get him back into building at some point. This keyshawn j. willin zubin with no fees or minimums on checking and savings accounts. 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My lists can't believe it. Okay can you tell looking the pre one. This is how we do it. Six could hooper. nothing. Come on man you a waste of tall waste tom. I come on man. that's your story. I hate to see people tall for no reason. I didn't nothing nothing but volleyball block. Something e chris brown canoe chris brown chris brown go like prince can ball like prince. Chris brown is it. Whoa better print. Yes be nice. Chris brown's nice better than progress. Chris brown can hoop became hoop in a silk shirt. A platform no in a blow hooping blouse something special. Maybe you guys want to come back to my house for pancake. What is chris brown. Giving toaster strudel. Whatever can rob demovsky hoop. That's the question we have is. Espn packers reported joins us right. Now on the goodyear hotline. Because you know guys. I don't know if you've heard hundred days of the nfl season which means days. We'll know who's under center for the packers week. One good morning rob. So can you answer that question. One hundred days from now. Who's under center for the packers. Say i can tell you who's not gonna be and i don't think it's aaron rodgers as for who is play portal's god help you guys how. How does how will everybody deal with that transition period while i cringe just hearing. You say that we were like. Oh air rogers to blake. Bortles like tell me about that. you know what. Here's the thing though. Like i'm not sure the sentiment right now is all that pro rogers in the sense that Rogers doesn't wanna be easier and people. I don't care what team you root for. But it's especially this way in green bay. 'cause it's such a small town if you if you don't wanna be here people don't want you here like that that is it's a very provincial. Place I grew up in chicago. It took me a long time for people to stop looking at me as an outsider. And and if if aaron rodgers doesn't want to be here he all of a sudden goes from one of them to one of the others you know like you don't wanna be here. I put it this way. I drove by a yard side the other day. And there's an expression like packers fans always say go packs. Well this sign in the yard said erin. Go pat go back. Get the reference products you every time. And he's a hell of a fall off from blake from air riders to blake bortles jordan. Love but what's the expectations i. What can be the expectation. What what is a package that they would. Maybe want to return if they do. That's the thing they're not trading might. They insist they're not trading so harbaugh then they want to. It leads that changes yeah. Let's that changes. He's gonna have to sit out which i like. I here's the thing. I don't know i don't see him coming back here. I think five said it. Best in his interviews. He's like knowing. Aaron the way i know i just don't see him coming back and saying Yeah you're right Let's just forget it and move on and play again. I don't see him doing that. So what i don't know is whether they'll change their stance on the trade where they say they're not trading them or whether they'll just worse them to sit down and say oh by the way you know there's about thirty million bucks in your signing bonus money technically didn't didn't earn so you owe us that back like i don't know if that's the way it's gonna go But i just don't know how he walks this back And that's why. I agree with with brad in the sense that i don't think i think aaron's too stubborn to to walk it back so demovsky for packers report. Join us right. Now on. The goodyear hotline. Sorry about that. But but i want to ask you rob is you. You're saying that he doesn't wanna be back and you're talking about how if you don't wanna be here all those things like that is as simple as he's just playing in green bay because he's just done playing in green bay like i don't like it here i don't wanna be here because everything that he said the only time he did speak. Was you know everybody. There's great naming. Everybody except of course for brian right. Happy there so all right. Well if that's the issue then why wouldn't it be as simple as if we remove the issue. He'll come back because that organization would never do it. And i'm not sure any organization. Whatever just fire. A general manager who has put together a roster. That's not twenty six six the last two years and been in the nfc championship game two years in a row and the other thing. I think it sets a really bad precedent for players you know being able to dictate it now. Look there's there's there's different rules for different players and aaron rodgers. Probably feels like he's earned that right and and you know what if you drive into green bay that massive stadium and see all the development around it aaron rodgers and breath fire. Probably both figure like hey without us. They don't build this they don't read. They don't renovate stadium. They don't build this big title town district around it. So i understand why they feel like they're owed something a little bit more than that makes that does make total sense to be. But i just don't think that the way the organization operates they would ever choose a player over the general manager. Who has built the team to what it is now right or wrong whether you agree with it or don't agree with it. I that's just a fact of the way they operate. Okay rob. i'm team positively team. Okay i'm here. Okay what improvements. Have we seen from jordan love during the last week. Not as so boy don't want here's the thing like it was a low bar to okay. He he was. He was not very good last year in training camp. Not very good in the limited amount of practice time that we saw. But i will say there's been significant improvement I mean you guys know. You've been an practice fields. When the quarterbacks do those rollout throw it into the net thing. You know the little buckets He he had a hard time hitting those at a regular basis last year Last week not as he was hitting it at like ninety five percent cliff ball was coming out with more zip he was. He was a check down. Charlie and training camp last year And i saw him actually throw the ball down the field a few times now granted. It's it's three quarters speed and not as it's not you know it is not even full practice speed. Let alone game speed But the ball looked like it was coming out of his hands with more zip So i think there's definitely been some improvements there but As you guys know the plan was never to start him. In twenty twenty one it was going to be a slow development process and maybe in twenty twenty two. He would be ready to start now. Could they accelerate that From what i saw in the first week. Ot as and we'll see one more we'll see another practice tomorrow. I do think there's been an improvement. Is it enough to you. Say hey we got a really good team around him so he only has to do so much I'm not ready to go there yet. Bad you got to be. Yeah get hidden the idea that he's talking about. Just kidding the net. that's this. This feels so much christian hackenberg. I can't even begin to tell you with mandatory minicamps starting up in a week like rogers doesn't show up. Obviously that's when he starts losing money. Correct greg slayer showing up just to get paid. You know. I think it's ninety five thousand for the he would be fine for the three days and he's already missed out on a five hundred thousand dollar workout august. So what's another ninety five right. That's one night in a hotel. He's in hawaii right now anyway. So what's the difference. Rob great stuff is always. I'm sure When there's fifty days to go until week one we'll be asking you same nine or ninety. Eight ninety eight discs. I hope i'm on vacation with fifty ago. Because i need a repressed before trade cap. Great stuff as always appreciate all right. We'll be all right rob demovsky. Espn packers reporter. On the goodyear hotline. Coming up next yes. It's time caller. Relent inundates eight years being seven to nine three seven. Seven six and also bonus feature bart's worst road trips in the nfl. Have a day with bart without a list. That is coming up after jay. Has this from indeed barker news. Great news your business doubled. Even better news is in can help you hire the right people without wait. Times of the typical recruiting process. That's because indeed has a great hiring platform where you can make calls schedule virtual interviews and talk to ken. 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Anybody remember hard knocks one of the very first ones when the ravens were going there and they had massive gaps as big as your foot where you can go in there. You come in a had no achilles on your way out you know. The vet was horrible place to play a side with the people out there that store and stuff that all kinds of crazy stuff but a bonus best cheerleaders in the game and number four number four four. There was one of these things like clockwork every single year. We show the cincinnati. I don't know they had the raven scheduled food scheduling conflicts. The grand wizard in the kkk will be outside of our hotel. Can't make this talking every time we went to cincinnati this the has some kkk march. Every time we went there and we really had to let them know. Listen we ain't about that life we from here reading afraid of you. We will kick your ass annual hoodie. Play day didn't know we was going to be there. We didn't know what was going to be there. But it's going to be a misunderstanding. Dan what are these northern bowling calls. They'll be ready for that smoke all the wisdom flick scheduling number freeman guardrail. You take your little racing recovering. I number three number. Three would be the only place that i got boo. I got moved by grandma. Like a california raising or wrinkled up and strewn up and see me on the way right by his seven eleven everybody. That's from where pittsburgh understands. What seven eleven is right. Meanwhile you make the right to the stadium and i knew like clockwork. I hate this song. I hear it a must see because every time they play renegades sticks game on a newark quarterback was by the have a bowel movement. And i will say just the dams ball pittsburgh was wondering stimulating places to play offense now for our defense but i tell you what i love playing there and it was a great place to play. I miss you pittsburgh. I don't miss their grandmother. If i see on the streets. I'm kick that grandmother all right number two number two this. I don't understand why this place felt like they needed advantage but they always like clockwork three o'clock one o'clock in the morning. I knew that the fire alarm going to be pulled at our hotel in new england is a tradition. I don't know what hell these people got going on in new providence. They're bored to death. Your team is great. They don't need advantage. They got us coming outside at three o'clock in the morning to coming out for fire alarm so new england was a horrible place to play in the idiots across the street. As top of the roof with the bullhorn was out there talking to you. All single night is crane every game every game. Every game like get a life do they. Don't come on man stop it. So new england was crazy number one number one number one. I don't know if you guys have ever been in a stan hotel that has been flooded like maybe a thousand times and people just got tired. I'm sure black mold underneath and they just hit it with for breeze. You can smell. Smells like breeze. Thought but i'll tell you what this place was. Sold nasty smells so bad that i did not want to put any of my bare essentials. But they don't down locker room. I tell you what it smell. Like a motel six they have been flooded clete in again and people just gave up on display at the top of didn't even take matt in all and all black mole was underneath on the installation. I tell you what the sale and listened as a kicker not only did you have to worry about getting mercer but tonight you gotta go out here and if it's before if it's september and october you out there you losing skin because they got a damn baseball diamond out there and you follow. Who are getting all these strawberries. Then i gotta go in there and figure out drawing to go inside of here in dam sour with all this exposed flesh the coliseum the worst place to play that slow no that list and everybody. 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99 Problems and Waiting 99 Days for Kickoff is One of Them

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99 Problems and Waiting 99 Days for Kickoff is One of Them

"Do you own or rent your home. Sure you do. Fortunately geico makes it easy to bundle your home and car insurance. It's a good thing too. Because having a home is hard work go to geico dot com. Get a quote and see how much you could save. Geico dot com easy. No the drama the pettiness. Even alive report from green bay. Ot as if coming in moments the latest on jordan love and how he's looked plus the reason someone here believes. Aaron rodgers will play for the packers this season. And it's because of a few eye-popping numbers we'll tell you all about it. Welcome to nfl live. You see right here we've got. Jeff darlington tim hasselbeck and ryan clark with you for the hour. So glad you're along for the ride with us. Today later the reason trae lance will start for the forty niners instead of jimmy g. but we've again with the packers and green bay in the thick of ota's without aaron rodgers. He was in hawaii for awhile and listen. It would've been extremely surprising if he had shown up. He's made it stands clear. Don't forget in. Rogers recent interview with kenny mayne. He made it obvious the front office. That has an upset. Here's not mcclure. Today he's really attacking it the right way. The focus is there The work ethic and just he's grinding away and trying to get a little bit better each and every day you know it all goes back to when you're a little kid in the backyard and plant pop warner just having fun to see him out there you know like throwing a ball and like looking back and like smiling like yeah did that but like also just like debt competitive just kind of drive and I definitely seen that a lot out of them. And so that's really exciting as a friend of him to see him. You know having fun being confident and just going out there. Everything's not perfect. But you know that's why we practice everybody talking about jordan love. Espn packers of puerto. Rob demovsky joining us now from. Ot's green bay. Rob where has jordan. Love shown the most improvement after spending last season. The number three quarterback who's just thrust into this number one spot with a ton of attention on him laura. It's not so much about his arm. That's what we all look at right. We see how the ball's coming out in it is coming out quicker. He seems to be a little bit more decisive coach. Matt lafleur told us today that it's really more about his feet and getting his footwork right. Because that's what he wants to see. As far as quarterbacks making their reads now at times today we saw love checking the ball down a lot and i wondered if that was a sign of being unsure but before said that when we saw him checking down to running backs time after time. It was really the idea of a quarterback going through his progression in understanding all the reads. And one thing that you heard. Aj dylan say they're aj dylan came in in the same draft class with jordan love. And he said it's great to see him having fun and doing what he was brought here to do now. The question of course laura is when he will actually do it for right now. Not as it's the jordan love show next week. If aaron rodgers shows up for mini camp which a lot of people around here don't think he will. It will continue to be the jordan. Love show until the roger situation is resolved and next week. Rub the story only intensifies which means we'll be seeing a lot more view if the packers don't budge on trading aaron rodgers by the way in the twenty twenty league. Mvp decided to sit out this season. He be forfeiting twenty two million dollars. Here's a look at how that money is spread out through his base salary. Roster bonus and workout bonus i get it twenty. Two million dollars may not be that much aaron rodgers but it's a lot to some of us head coach matt for also asked by rob demovsky about rodgers today. I've got nothing to update rob on that situation and You guys all know how we feel about it. You expect him to be here. It is mandatory. I don't know we'll see Come tuesday the duck and dodge. They're by the floor. You would expect nothing else are see. There is a situation here where the packers could just call aaron rodgers bluff and say all right man you sit out the season you forfeit twenty two million dollars. You think that's what they should do. They listen you got to get out here and called bluffs like matt damon and rounders. This is not the opportunity or the time where you can make the best deal. When you're looking at aaron rodgers. that time has passed. So i was like okay. You show me your hand. I know what you have now. Let's see how you're gonna play this. Aaron rodgers are you gonna miss out on twenty two million dollars. Are you gonna give money back to the green bay packers and also. Are you going to sit out a year after you just won the mvp. You're playing some of the best football of your life. This come from two championships. Having a team with an opportunity to win the whole thing you sit home for you forfeit an opportunity that people die for this to prove a point. You have a personal grudge against executives. You have something against a gm or you've on that allow that personal feeling those emotions to keep you off the field out of the locker room with your teammates and for continuing to build your legacy. That's where aaron rodgers is. And if i'm the green bay packers i make him show me. I know they're in wisconsin. But i'm going to be from missouri. It's going to be show me what you're gonna do aaron rodgers. 'cause i'm not budging until next year. If you prove to me you're willing to sit home. That last point are see is the is is really the crux of this and why i believe. He ends up playing this season as a green bay packer about what aaron rodgers has done. The last three seasons ska- he's ninety nine touchdown passes at eleven tips. I the look the numbers up a second tires type of production is insane and really what you're looking at is a guy who believes that the window to win the championship is wide. Open right now so this idea that he's gonna sit in. Just you know basically kind of prevent that from happening winning a championship from happening. I just don't think will happen. Twenty something million dollars is a lot of money to anybody. I don't care how much money you've made. I don't think that's the point here for erin. I think the point here for aaron and you mentioned it. it's personal. He feels like he's playing at a level that he should win a championship nearly every year. It's the culture supporting cast around him but has prevented that from happening. And i think basically what he's saying. We need to do differently because i am in charge. Not you think that's what's happening yet. Tim you know what's interesting about this dynamic with the packers that yes it feels personal but it also feels like people trying to harness power to impose their power. Whether it's aaron rodgers to say look at my position as a player in this organization but then on the other side ryan becomes the general manager who's recently hired just a few years ago and then mark murphy who serves in a role that is more interesting than any other real role of ceo in the nfl. The packers they're a publicly owned organization to have more than three hundred thousand. Shareholders and mcmurphy serves as essentially the voice of all that the head of all of that in thirty one organizations. Otherwise you've got owners who can be a little bit more. Let's say frivolous they can say you know what brian good cons. We want to keep aaron rodgers around your out. That's not going to happen with the green bay packers so as these sides are sort of kinda struggling for power here. I just don't see anything other than If the packers wanna leverage this thing trying to push it into the season with rogers otherwise it feels to me like this has to end in a trade. Yeah it's a really important clarification. That i'm not sure everyone realizes about the packers. It's also worth noting guys just said you know what i've had enough. I'm going to call it a career. He'd be forfeiting a total of seventy three million dollars the packers course maybe file a grievance over a signing bonus asking to pay back half of it since he would have only completed half of his contract seven three million dollars if he retires by the way everyone. We got ninety nine days to the start of the nfl season. We're that not nine days woohoo until the kickoff of the twenty twenty one season. So how about this. We got ninety nine problems. The blanket one. Obviously we cannot afford jay z. So we've got this knockoff. Music going on here so ryan. I something we should be excited about ninety nine from one. Hey listen debts have ninety nine problems with blindside protection is not one you have a logic very took drafted this year. You have mci becton drafted last year and quarterback critics are going to say that zach is money cash and browsed. But he's the quarterback of the new york jets. What type of facts are those. And you got to protect the guy that's gonna lead you to the promised. Land good job not singing our see. Well done listen. The pittsburgh steelers time talking about everything that they have gone wrong whatever. They have ninety nine problems for coaching. What mike tomlin autism and mason rudolph. He's gonna be just fine. And i love to see. The caffeine exchanged control about whether ryan will not going this far. I don't have a problem with the offensive line. I know everybody's gonna think about that super bowl coming into this season. And they're going to think that. John is one of the major storylines. There is not a unit in the nfl that will be more improved than the last season the first then the chiefs offensive line. The eagles have ninety nine problems but a qb at one. Yeah you heard me. They're in good hands with jalen hurts. Not saying he'll be perfect right. But he's got a world class offensive weapon and devante smith and would be enough for philly to feel confident. They have their quarterback of the future to build around. If you're having passing problems. I feel badly son. I got ninety nine problems but a qb at one. It's gonna leave that they're all right anyway. Wow you stink like you can't even give me any sort of support they're much more to. Nfl live forty niner ceo. Jed york spoke about the qb battle. and ten. Fram jimmy jean trae lance one of our analysts. Things jimmy g. is already lost the job and up next tampa bay bucks head coach. Bruce arians puts his defending super bowl champs on notice what he said and who else should be on alert throughout the lead. Nfl live is brought to you by coors light made to chill invite digiorno. It's not delivery if digiorno. I can't believe you guys like i did that. Line and i was ready for a big reaction. Where were you are seeing farsi. Do owner or rent your home share. You and i bet it can be hard work. You know it's easy. Bundling policies with geico geico makes it easy to bundle your homeowner's or renter's insurance along with your auto policy. It's a good thing too because you already have so much to do around your home. Go to geico dot com de quote and see how much you could save. Its gyco easy. Visit geico dot com today. That's geico dot com variance. However is we're looking at books so t as putting the pressure on the entire bucks. Brossard listen to this really pleased with guys coming back in good shape and the repetitive mistakes are not happening. you know. so it's It's a good thing to so there's very bright group and Bring good intensity practice. He's guys out here working there. I'd like to see about ten more that fighting for jobs that they don't know they're fighting for that attitudes undefeated worse than any career by the way. So who else is fighting for a job next season. Jeff we just off. Well look. I think the running back situation in tampa is extremely interesting. Yes jason like. The gm could bring back everybody. Leonard fournette and ronald jones but it was for net at the end of the season in the postseason new book fast and jones in the regular season so coming into this year. I say nothing is promised that rb one. I think that these guys will be on training. Camp fulton contract years. Both looking to be the feature back for me. It's cam newton jefferson. You look at the situation. Through eight touchdown passes last season. Signed them basically to a backup deal a year ago. They review the deal this year with backup money half of what andy dalton ryan fitzpatrick or due to make and then they draft a quarterback with the fifteenth overall pick. I think cam. Newton is in a situation where he's got an uphill battle but he's fighting for his listen. I'm looking at winston. He's going to be in a battle with tastes hill. Who was the guy that started with. Drew brees was out year and jameis. Winston does his opportunity so the best. Pass the any new orleans saints through last year on a trick play in the playoffs. Bac this team. He can resurrect his career. And maybe start a new tradition. That the quarterback position for the new orleans saints speaking of fighting for jobs jimmy jeeves fighting for his in san francisco after the forty niners used the third overall pick to get three lance porn offices continued to voice. Its commitment to jimmy g. And what else would you expect right with quarterback that did play in a super bowl for them not that long ago. But here's ceo. Jeff york on this quarterback battle how it may play out for the forty niners. That's the nice thing about drafting. A young guy is that you know when he's ready to play he's ready to play. We love jimmy. I think jimmy. He got us to a super bowl you know. Obviously we didn't have the year that we wanted last year in terms of our record but the things that we overcame as an organization as a team the injuries that we had being kicked out of our home and going to arizona. Like i think we showed a lot of fortitude. And i feel like we can compete right now. Whether jimmy's a quarterback whether trays the quarterback whoever it is and you know if he gives us the best chance to win going to be a quarterback yeah it's worth remembering to injury were such part of last season for the forty niners and that's also something that goes hand in hand with jimmy rear unfortunately for him that's been well voice throughout it. Jeff what does all of this mean for the forty niners out. Are they going to go about this while you. This is the second time in as many weeks where. I've kind of had my eyebrows raising a little bit. Based on things that are being said out of san francisco. Kyle shanahan last week saying that train lance has looked better than expected. And that's just through a short portion of ota's now jed york saying that. Yeah we feel like we could win with trae lance four jimmy jean. This is the time of year that we've become accustomed to hearing. gm's like how he wrote back on carson wentz whose draft we don't wanna see when all year link portals in jacksonville. We don't wanna see blake all year. Most of the time gm's these owners are trying to take pressure off of the quarterback in san francisco to me. It feels like they're saying. Wait a second true lance might have it to me signals. That i think we're gonna see trae lance sooner rather than later at that starting spot maybe even week one while listen we. What kind of all in tizzy right. Because i was trying to convince people that mack jones three overall pick we were getting mobbed drafts because it signified the san francisco forty niners didn't really know who they were moving to number three four but you know what they did know. They knew they were moving off jimi g. they said i don't care if jones if it's just that feels if it's trae lance. We don't want jimmy g. as our quarterback anymore we want something different and so you get trae lands but remember this guy's a few weeks ago jed your came on and said you know if trae lance doesn't play until least twenty three and he has a fifteen year career than we're doing a great job and we're in a great place you see starting to shift you know why because trae lance is a smart as they thought he was. He does have the arm talent he thought he did. He can get outside of the pocket and make plays with his legs. And now you see that train of thought now you see that message transitioning because this is going where we all knew it was going when they drafted three. Let's he's going to be the starting quarterback of the san francisco forty niners very early in twenty twenty one right so that makes me think tim is this jimmy job to lose or has he already lost it. Which are you more willing to pay the commitment to prepare your workforce for the future or the cost of inaction. It's a question you can't afford to ignore. Introducing pro edge appear wc product. It's the revolutionary way to upskill your people and prepare your organization for tomorrow proactively owned your digital transformation with your existing workforce. Prepare your workforce for tomorrow. Visit pro edge dot p. Wc dot com slash podcast. Learn about upskilling. Citizen led innovation and the workforce of the future. He's already lost. It even starts the first already lost the job. Look i mean that's just. That's how i an artsy lock ball teams. You do go and do what they did to go trae lance lance talked about trae lands. And then you're canaan the is they have been about jimmy garoppolo and how they like him as a flatter but the injuries have been a big problem. The decision's been made. I mean the reality is starting quarterback. In the face of the franchise. The guy they are building around is trey lance and are touched on it. And i think it's critical here you'll basically all these you know. Everyone saw the physical ability. They knew the talented trae lance but after the draft what they raved about was how smart that trae lance was his football light accurate. And if you look at the history of kyle shanahan. He is not afraid to play guys. That don't have experience. And i don't think he'll hold back on trae lance tim. It's a very good point. One other point last year late in the season cal shan already starting to tell people man. I want to get away from the statue quarterback. I wanna move into more mobile quarterback to me that he's gonna shift that offense right tour trae lands on the outset. Ten mentioned the experience of trae lands. He's only played one game in the last five hundred eight days. That was when north dakota state played. It's only game twenty twenty against central arkansas. It's worth thinking about no matter how you look at this all right coming up on. Nfl live ten questions with adam. Schefter continues with the focus on the twenty eight team quarterback graph class who gets paid. I mean josh. or lamar. Find out next movie right back. So we've heard plenty of reasons. Why quarterback from the two thousand eighteen class should get an extension. But what about why. They shouldn't for sam darnold. You've likely just trying to prove himself in your one with the panthers. Since entering the nfl darnold has the league's second lewis qbr and completion percentage. Lamar jackson has been phenomenal in the regular season right but in the playoffs not so much. He holds the third lowest total. Qbr in playoff games. Espn begin fracking. The metric in two thousand six josh allen may have taken a massive leap last season but his concern since the league allen had the highest off targets percentage by any quarterback. Then there's baker mayfield. He may have led the browns to their first playoff win since one thousand nine hundred ninety four but turnover remain an issue. He has fifty two turnovers since two thousand eighteen trailing only during all over that span. Wow just told me. Negative nancy after that. But it is worth pointing out of the point here at ryan. Which of these quarterbacks still has the most approved the obvious answer is going to be. Sam right we're gonna go there because of where he's gotten traded and all these things but to me it's lamar jackson and not because he has to prove he deserves money or deserves. The contract is what type of money. And what type of future do we see. Lamar jackson has to prove that he can develop a passing game. That takes him beyond the rushing right. That takes him beyond the play action. That is my ankle is sprained. My hamstring is tight or if we're playoff games with refused to let us run we can have somewhat of a traditional passing game that works a passing game that moves outside the numbers. I think you view him differently if he's able to develop that we all know he's an outer worldly talent. He's an mvp caliber football player. But can he be the quarterback that gets your passing game to the point where he can take you to the promised land. I think lamar jackson still has to prove that because if he gets the none of these dudes are even touching run. It's a really valid point. I think the tricky part of it is this. Is that when you evaluate quarterback says hashers. You know you can't discount what they do. Is runners many played callers. Call a passing. Play after a quarterback has had a scramble. I mean it's basically you're saying. Hey i want you to play with the same. Accuracy is a guy that does not run. Even though i just asked you to run quarterback fowler on third and one middle. You're really delicate balance. The insane situation honestly for josh l. And when people look at that lord you pointed out you know in terms of off target throws. He's used as a runner as well and oftentimes does it zone. So i think that's one thing as we look at. What is the future for. Lamar jackson a month looking at as a passer. I don't think you can. I know representation. Won't we'll look at. It won't go to the table saying okay. Yeah the passing numbers. Aren't there because you have to factor in in the factor and how that affects how he is as a passer. Yeah it's a really important point. I think people don't realize that all the time when talking about the differences in what these guys really can do from a skill set standpoint jeff proven or not which of these guys get paid first. So i believe it'll be josh allen and i understand there's some nuance to that complexities. Because often times if the guy who seems to covet the most is up in a contract situation it has the potential to perhaps get the ugliest we saw. What dak prescott for instance. But we've also seen what happened with. Patrick mahomes amicable contract negotiation. That to me is what i envisioned for josh allen. This is a guy who seems to have a great chemistry with this organization brandon. In the general manager. There seems to be just all in joshua's made clear that this is something they like to get done through the later. They don't even want to mess with or think about that franchise tag. Yes easier said than done. I just think we're talking about a guy in josh allen. And i say this like the guy was raised on a farm. I don't want data suggest that he doesn't deserve or not. We'll chase money but it just feels like the kind of guy he's gonna be. Okay trying to put pieces around him get paid a handsome about stopping right ryan's gonna call me on that raised on a farm. Hey i'm not triggered whether you're raised on a former born into mansion. We all like money. Josh allen is gonna win because he deserved it right because he went out and had a great year. So let's not come here and say josh allen is gonna walk in office and be like. Oh shucks i just like being the buffalo bill to give you enough to ride mike how we are in there. Oh gosh money. He was a top three. Mvp candidate and he's going to get that bread and so i think it won't be as easy as it sounds because he's going to think patrick mahomes level and obviously we saw him and patrick mahomes on the same field in the afc championship. And they are not on the same level. But when i look at baker mayfield right if baker mayfield can understand who he is. I'm a guy who was helped by kevin defense guy. I'm a guy who was helped by a great run game. And if i have all of these things together i can be great. I can be really good. I can help this team win. And so i think baker mayfield understands that if he negotiates his contract in the way that he could be dude after being number one overall pick. Who kinda get this deal done between before the other two guys. Because i think there are so many different dynamics dynamics in play when it comes to allen in lamar jackson at ryan Just for the cattle ranchers out there. Did you say writing cow. Yes riding the call like hey bills or a horse. Go off the rails by the way the suburbs. Yes new orleans like what you do with. Cow's milk them i. I don't think the guy who crossed the across the street if we carry on there but up next. It's been over week. 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The main card starts at ten eastern seven pacific on pay per view to order an english and spanish go to espn dot com slash. Tv prelims start at eight eastern five pacific on espn espn and espn. Two forces on wednesday night. Baseball game has the red sox in houston take on the astros in the third game. Four game set at minute maid. Our coverage begins at eight eastern seven central. Don't miss it time to read and react here on. Nfl live with the latest out of the mouth of some of the nfl's biggest names. The browns made it clear. They're solidifying their defense and free agency and the threat. He added john johnson. The third tory hill tack mckinley. Davey cloudy me. Jackson and anthony walker and free agency and drafted greg. Newsom the second jeremiah. For a moa with their first two picks grab myles garrett does real good about it at the come together almost like what we have on defense off santa for a couple of new additions others lot of guys who play good football. We a rosser. A won't be surprised at bay become making just because that's what they've been doing. Hey man listen. He is not like he's absolutely correct. When you had a guy like jones carolina everybody on the back end. Roy hill versatile. Chess piece greg newsom who is great out of northwestern western you are trying to win games the davey and colony can now be the number two rushers speed and linebackers. They have now turned a liability into an asset for this team. And it's going to be some plays made by cleveland browns defense. How about another. Qb one in chicago folks. i'll say it again. No offense to andy dalton. But i think the bears traded up to get justice fields bereaved. He should go ahead and start as early as possible. Either way don't and brings valuable experience to the position. Here's matt nagy today on how they'll handle the competition. I've talked to all three of them. And as we go into these practices as go into training camps knowing how valuable it is for for justin to get his wraps. You know and andy obviously to get his reps to nick and i have talked and he understands that going into this. Adjusting is gonna get the two wraps and nick's going to get the three wraps. I hear that. I just have sympathy for any dalton and nick foles quite honestly being in a situation like that. It's hard to succeed when they're trying to get somebody else but now it's the right thing for the chicago. Bears future is justin fields. Make no mistake about it. I think when you look at what they've done this offseason. This is the position. They've kind of put themselves for. They've made this bed. I would have to think at some point. Nick foles maybe as an opportunity. Somewhere else tat. Can't forget about nick foles. I didn't mention him before. If you wanna find the toughest division in the nfl really be the nfc west. Every team making moves to get better including the arizona cardinals. Murray also entering the all crucial year. Three interested to see what kind of leave he makes this season. Here's kingsbury with more on that today. He's been working really hard this all season to try and take that that big jump. I thought you know not having all season last year. Rolling into season two he. He made huge strides and then we expect him to make the same this season. He definitely is very confident. Right now. he's mastered our system You can see know. The leadership qualities continue to emerge. And so we're all just really excited to to have him here and watch the go with him as leader. There's no doubt there. It to the wonder about what tyler murray will be in this next season but i mean i was at a week nine game when i saw him with a passer rating of one hundred fifty Just looking in person lights out the way he moved the way he threw. You saw that potential that kingsbury talking about of course as for as many hundred point passer ratings had also dipped down to the seventies and the sixties and other game so consistency a major key for kyla murray going into this season but he showed flashes this past year that that certainly make kings. Were kingsbury worthy of those coleman's the cardinals and a different division. Other than the nfc west. How they might look against competition considering the rossa. They've put together back to one of the biggest stories of the moment guys. Julio jones it's been over a week since he said he wanted out of atlanta publicly even if he really didn't know what was public he also said he wants to go somewhere he can win. So where does this thing. stand for. New falcons head coach. Arthur smith smoke not long ago and of course he was out jones win last week competition. We have conversation all the time all our players. There's communication going back and forth multiple avenue. So we'll see what happens next week and where we're at you know so i can answer that for you next week. Frustrating to keep kind of addressing. That job i mean. Welcome atlanta's arthur smith like. This is just dropped right in your lap man. Come on all right jeff. Is the actual timeline here for julio jones. It feels like it could be happening soon. Or is being very honest right there when he says. Let's talk about it next week. There's definitely a sense in atlanta and elsewhere around the league that this will get done Likely in the next week or so They're having intense conversations with multiple teams. There's interest for multiple teams so it feels like it's coming down to it. I think arthur knows that. I think julio jones knows that. So too does the falcons organization ryan when you think about the falcons and what they would look like without. Julio because i think we need to operate in that world right when they drafted kyle pins instead of getting a quarterback. It made you think they're in win now mode raid. They're trying to put together a roster. That really has this. Offense is gonna scare. Some people are the alkan good enough without julio absolutely and listen. Julio jones makes everything better writers like cheese and bacon egg sandwich you put cheese and bacon on it. It's better you have a baked potato that dry but you cheese bacon. It is better than anything absolutely. Oh so every go. He's going to make the team better. But think about the fact that you have calvin ridley. Who's a number one talent russell gauging the slot and you had cow pits. Who mel kiper himself says is one of the. He's the best tight end. He's ever-graded at forty three years. One of the best pass catchers overall so you will have production offense. Was it the problem last year. It was the defense. It was the fact. That if you march me out there my goddaughter alexandra and may two of my kids. They couldn't stop us either. That's how bad the land of talk is worth defensively. So they'll move the football. Had they fixed enough on the defensive side of the ball. Even be competitive. There are when you look at the offensive side of the body right. They're going to be okay. I mean you got sound by. Arthur smith in many ways is is kind of you know big part of the reason why i mean the way that he attacks it his his candidate nature on the if you look at his track record what. He's been able to think about what he's doing now is he's answering questions. Basically trading away the best wide receiver that franchise has ever had. He's like let's talk about it tomorrow. It's coming down the pipe. No big deal part of the job. Here here's what we're gonna do that demeanor. I think is going to go a long way in terms of gathering trust from that football team and i do think when you look at how kyle pits will be used in and arthur smith offense in some ways bill still that julio void once they do trade. Yeah timothy an important point about arthur smith remember. He was a guy that was highly sought after by many teams in the offseason when teams were looking to get a head. Coaching atlanta ended up landing in. I think they'll be really glad that they did all right. Coming up on nfl live. We're talking second year quarterback ryan things one of these sophomore. Qb's could possibly win an mvp. This season i out who he's talking about. We'll be right back fun to see those highlights of perot from last season before the knee injury is a reminder of some of the great things he did of course he is coming off that knee injury but he's not just prepping the bomb looking at things come out of his arm. If you ask bengals players if they noticed more velocity from borough they all have one answer with an event. Yes what about today. Hells especially with my gloves off. And i was like oh this is anita. Come back on and thousand. He's humming the ball right now. Those smoking they come in you know so we got anticipate a that. Got star ledger as well. You know so hands out there thing a little bit but we gotta adjust to it. It's been fun watching because he looks good. Throwing the football obviously kindle movement stuff that he'll be a season rolls around but just watch some football. It's the same old joe yet. Maybe even better same old joke. The bengals are confident. Borough can pick up where he left off. But they may want to lighten the load on their young franchise quarterback last season. Borough averaged forty pass attempts per game the most by a rookie in nfl. History as you can see there though. He wasn't the only rookie with a heavy workload last season. Justin ferber also passed. Andrew lucked for the second most pass attempts per game by a rookie in. Nfl history. Tim do you see borough regressing or improving in your mind. Well i would anticipate that improves in. I think the challenges that is coming off a significant significant injury. The truth is for quarterbacks it's unnerving to have people around your legs basically. It's you know it's y. They've changed the rule. The tom brady rule where. You can't go low on a quarterback so anybody that's been rolled up on tap into me and two surgeries two years ago because of that and so something that you have to get over mentally. And then i think when as it relates to joe burrow's gaming think about how good he has been at escaping kinda got this slippery quality to his game as ability to create sometimes. He's a design runner but oftentimes. It's kind of second reaction. Plays such a good job of of getting out of the pocket and creating because he's elusive will that be impacted by this recovery. You saw him in that video there at bengals camp wearing a big knee brace. And that's something that is going to be playing with going forward. I think all of those things are a factor in terms of what type of progress we see absolutely makes the point of him giving you the second chance opportunities in no second chance plays lower. You know we love the sec. I think joe burrow defining heisman moment was evading the rush against georgia getting out of the pocket to his right hidden. Justin jefferson down the field and so those are the things we're used to seeing him do because he's uniquely brave in new pocket. Almost if you ask a guy like me who would never want to play quarterback it have guys barreling down on me almost stupidly. So but that's why we love them down here in baton rouge and that's why they love him in cincinnati ohio. So will he get the ball out of his hand quicker and if doing that in doing that does that. Make him less of a player less of a threat to push the ball downfield. So i think there will be some adjustments that joe burrow in cincinnati. Bengals have to make but when you watch do with the intangibles that he has the type of leadership qualities to understanding of the game and the ability to distribute the ball. I think joe burrow will be just fine. you know. It's interesting talking about the improvements that he's made with strengthen his arm he really didn't have that much playing time in college that that's just another remarkable thing about his career. I think there's still probably so much more that you can get out of him it jeff. Let's take it to another second year guy to kind of want to prove it year in a way writes. What's the thoughts from miami on if improve question. That's the biggest story line in miami. By far and i was having a conversation with a member organization. You really instilled a lot of confidence in my belief that they feel like he is going to take that step that they believe wholeheartedly that a lot of the issues that he did face last year. After a guy waiting. We're based on the fact that is wide receivers were injured. That is running. Game was decimated by injuries as well offensive line at times dealing with some injuries. So they feel like this team if you look at some of the point differential the losses that this is actually at least ten win team and they believe we'll be part of that so a lot of confidence behind the scenes into second year. Yeah this team. The same is ready to win right now. It's time for tour to take that jumping when you look at these three quarterbacks to takes that job i believe that. His team wins double digit games. If justin herbert takes joke. I believe that just that. Herbert wins the mvp. And that's what we're looking at. We're looking at these three do's and the different places that they're in coming into this season let's go. The charters made some big improvements around herbert as well at least on paper time for one more thing before we go against eiji dylan on the practice. Field is unbelievable with these quads. I mean these things went viral. He's also to bother sweatshirt. Was like this. You get merged. So here's what he said about. All of it put up. Maybe we can make a quad squad no competition but if if it does come down to competition you know mine are the biggest and we can put that down and stated out the strongest. You know no big deal. I put out a thing on twitter. And i did a little pole and it was like fifty one forty nine for quad jello quad. Father brought up the idea of one leg being quad zillow the other one being quad father. Some row at that either name is applicable am. I would definitely respond to it where we where we think. Quad father quad zilla. Are you upset. His mom named i think his mama named no because his mom named him. Aj mccollum aj. Here i'm not telling he leg not call another grown man. I'm not calling the not. Even they're doing and do you own or rent your home. Sure you do. 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"Jason jay williams podcast really good games last night in the nba. Joel embiid doing something that you have seen really a six or do okay filling overfilled. Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah. Meanwhile donovan mitchell a great second half as well as the jazz take. Game one over the clippers. Good morning everybody on jay presented by progressive insurance alanon infra zubin. Join us on the goodyear hotline. Very busy day for us today. For sure but but jay. Let's get right to. Yeah some social media drama yesterday that involved you so not involving me. I didn't respond back to anybody yesterday. Look first and foremost i stand by my story I was probably wrong for sharing personal story. But that's what we do. We share personal stories. But yesterday i sat there. I'm not getting back and forth on social media. I was with my family all day as they positive is all good and you know for us. Look man it was meant as a compliment their levels to this it was about you know saying hey how different katie is It's unfortunate that katy felt that way at that moment. But i wish katie. Nothing love in all the best success. I hope they win a championship. We talk about every single day. Shoot the other day. I was talking about him being the best player in the world. So that's all guy say about that. We're moving on key. And i are talking about sports. We take the talk about sports. And that's into that. In my opinion we rock out and we talk about game before now. There's some other people that made some other comments might address later on but we'll save that for another day. Yeah yeah the rise above. It's what we do here though. We talk about sports whether you think it's corny or not a lot of people like it and that's why we do it. Eighty eight say. Espn eight eight seven nine. Three seven seven. Six of course is the number if you want to be part of that conversation. But as i mentioned last night's games in the guys they were to really good games. Can i say that. The sixers held off the hawks. They got off to a great start but they held off the hawks. Let's really interesting twist on the narrative there. Why don't feel like the sixers kind of came out with their foot on the gas about being dominant. Putting ben simmons on trade did looked up at it. We two point game half was always going to be a game. Playoff james milton had to happen. And you know the fourth quarters when in the nba really gets going. The first three quarters. First quarter first quarter tone for quarterbacks where the money is made and shake. Milton was the guy that made the money but they finish the deal when eighteen one. It's over is done. They they won. Mvp did he. He did his thing. I will tell you though. If you're atlanta you feel good about everything i mean. You went to filling you stole. He stole stolen home court to enroll. Like if you could hold serve. Yes so you back at three one. Which is what they did in the first round. And it's amazing to see really that that offense can still continue to do what it was doing but the sixers had to make adjustment. They did and go. I was gonna say you. I found myself whole nen watching that game last night because of trae in because of him be otherwise them to the you know we've been looking for star if dues wasn't on the floor. I don't know that. I don't know how to did and be able to think about this too on on a day where center won. Mvp for the first time in twenty years right a center it embiid was as dominant as we've seen another guy that really was an mvp candidate and then a center makes the big play in the other game. Bear to clinch the win for the jess. I like when. I see dwell and be play angry. I like when i see him aggressive. It's almost like came to him with this phone and it was like you see you got one first place. Vote for the mvp. Did you see one first place. Vote when he plays that way and they defend. That's what you think. Philadelphia has a chance to go next level because tobias harris special to especially with the way he kicks off the game offensively but another dominant performance in that we can talk about involved on mitchell and this is what happens again on the west coast with the team like utah where you don't get a lot of attention but if you missed his second half last night you miss something special like what he did last night and they tried everybody. They had kawai on them. They had georgia on them no matter what. He was getting buckets thirty six in the second half and he was. He was unstoppable and he was a big big reason why the jazz ended up coming back. They look terribly miss. Twenty straight shots in the first half all of a sudden the jazz couldn't make a shot like they just went through a drought but he turned it on second. They get the win One twelve hundred over the clippers but the most important i think part of this is this is a development of a player in donovan mitchell. Who was not late lottery. Pick it has emerged as a star back louisville. Who was not he was not like this a louisville novela. He was a slasher. He was a defender right. I mean he got he. He will get hot every once in a while but it was. It was not like this. I don't think anybody really expected donovan mitchell to go into the stratosphere like superstar heat where he's what he's and what he's become and i remember also the story of rick pitino who coached him in college was calling teams. Nba saying hey. He's better than what you saw. I didn't use him the way i was gonna say college basketball doesn't allow players really yet. Most programs sold allow players to really flourish for you to be able to see the true skill set. So you've gotta be able to identify. Say okay he fits into my system scott while you mean his identified him well to be able to say fits in my system with no problem because some of these. These coaches are coaching. their systems. In the pros is so different. That's the same way. Football is well. You look at a guy like well. He's okay it gets to the. Nfl you go. Where was he had college. Yeah yeah it's. I always think of when on jason and vince carter at unc. And anton jason was the player of the year rate example. But vince carter was the better player is the better pro. We just had a better pro game it just. He wasn't that for unc. But now what is done mitchell becoming. We love doing comparisons here. Stephen smith on i take making a very interesting parallel from donovan mitchell and future hall of famer day. Got us superstar too because donovan mitchell is on that level. Let me be very very clear. I'm not speculating. I guess. I don't need to see i've seen it donovan. Mitchell is deemed. wait two point zero. This is something special. He was two point. Oh what is two point. Oh me next iteration or like a level above the way. No point is upgrade. the that's what i think. Yeah but it's just is just it's just d. wade is older. You're seeing new doesn't mean he's going to be better doesn't mean he's he is Going to eclipse what everything did it's just like. I bought a car. Nineteen thousand nine. It's whatever now. I buy one in nineteen ninety ten. Yeah it's it's the next version ration- okay with you going on like an upright. I'm like oh i got you sure. Otherwise why am i doing. Why am i getting the new upgrade. I don't need it if i do but the bottom line is is wider now. But what's interesting though is that debate is obviously in the ownership group now. He's talked about that with utah. He was courtside for the game last night and spent a lot of time talking donna mitchell in the second half and even donald mitchell made reference to that saying how valuable that was to him to have a guy like that in his ear throughout the game. And you know. That's what i think is important when you talk about utah and players who wanna play there. And why di. Wade's presence is so import. Files the clippers out complained to the nba. They got an extra coach. He's not done. But i bet you i bet you. If somebody was to raise as stink they will be like. Yeah we need to investigate it. Look into it. They're not supposed to have but coaches refined for having a coach not on the bed yet right. But but here's what i think is important. Here's why i think. The way plays a pivotal role. I it was like yesterday. I remember watching that awkward moment. Which shaquille o'neal and out of mitchell posting right where secure. I'm not sure you're a superstar. Down said okay and you felt it there. You felt. It was personal opinion too. Yeah that's your opinion. I'm going to be that way. So like i said like this whole this whole playoff series has been wide open. It's an opportunity for the next gen to really set themselves. Apart and donovan took advantage of that opportunity last night to show you that he is that next iteration. I'm not saying he's two point. Oh d. way but there are a ton of similarities with the way he plays in how he moves. Think about the clippers. They gave up forty three times. The in the first round forty five points to donovan mitchell. His third career forty five point game in the playoffs tied for the third most and the players first thirty games of his nba playoff career and has even reached thirty games yet. Twenty eight games. He's played so far. The jazz also did not play with mike. Conley keep that in mind as well. He had hamstring issues so he was out of the game play. We do have to mention as well in this game. Is paul george of the clippers. Now he does get twenty and ten but four of seventeen shooting continues to struggle with his shooting. Twenty four percent from the floor. Tenth career post postseason game shooting twenty five percent or worse the third most games by any player in the shot clock era. Think about that for a minute and also like he has been struggling with his shooting and they were taunting him with the fans. Were hunting him with overrated. This is twenty points. We made nine out of ten free throws. Yeah exactly right but but the shooting part you know defense was not great either but as i mentioned paul george shooting twenty four percent from the floor stats incredible brought to you by mike mccurry training for a better life so again just getting into the playoff games from last night we got one playoff game tonight and that includes the new. 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Especially if he's throwing thrown at you so tomorrow. We begin the final four and speaking of curry. The first of the final four matchups is steph curry verses yadi molina and that again test. The saint louis baseball market very strong. They always seem to be voting and showing up for yadi. You'll get two days of voting this time around. But i today. We finish the final eight at key jay z. It'll be the pulled up in a moment and you'll have twenty four hours to vote for either baker mayfield or jacob degrom to move on by the way speaking voting guys as i mentioned. The mvp of the nba was announced yesterday. And it was won by nicola yokich and he's the first center. We knew that we knew that we talked about. We kind of knew he said that that was going to be the for understand the media. Does the boat. Yeah this is done by the nba media. I was not asked to vote. So don't blame me but it's the first center shack in two thousand to win. Mvp it's not a trees not traditional center although you know still It is the first center ninety one first place votes. Ninety one is incredible Joel embiid was the runner up. He had one first place. Vote also a center though but one first place vote so this was a runaway. And i know our to our two guys that love philly pat costello alan yates both producers This is well. How how would you guys describe it. this award for yokich let you guys say it. Well it's a Perfect attendance award is as far as i'm concerned agreed. Sure because embiid missed time and yokich. Didn't well i mean the nba is going to reward that and we've had multiple well mba media and the media to reward. People have said. Well you gotta be there. You've got gotta show up. I mean for joel embiid to have won first place. I mean that's stupid for votes. As derrick rose is travis. I had nothing to do with that. I had no. I had note. I didn't have a vote. The devil is a liar so he taught. Derrick rose was a fan vote so he shows. How many votes did you put. I cannot confirm northern fan. i can't i cannot. His perfect attendance is showing up and being available but nobody endeavor is watching in first of all. They're not on tv locally. It's pretty amazing. So you get rid of that in there from a national standpoint. How many games do we actually see denver in the national spotlight. We've seen them a lot more than you think but again. This is voted by nba media. Whose job is to watch kid understand it. It's a cute narrative. When i'm watching him even though he had a good game and i'm watching him be just yesterday alone. Yeah did the same in when you tell me the first center since shack in then you shack in him in the same breath i frown. But if you say embiid is shock. I wouldn't have found like that because in beads gain. Just i just liked that more than i like that. That doesn't appeal. You're gonna get lost in the conversation though. Because i feel like joel. Beach definitely have more than one. First place vote absolutely. But i'm not going to sit here and say that nicole yokich doesn't deserve the. Mvp dude almost average triple double now. So i know you can sit there and say it doesn't look right. It doesn't feel sexy. Watch basketball though. I mean what he's doing on the court is pretty special. Do did average twenty six points for a game. Ten and a half rebounds close to nine assists. I mean the numbers speak for themselves. I mean it's pretty special. And without jamal murray he kept them in upper echelon. He deserves to be the mvp. But based on what i saw throughout the course of the season whenever embi was on the court it just it. It flashed me more of what i like. That's audio visual. You were guard that can put in work at your size your frame. Who would you rather have your team. Would you rather have yoga or would you rather have him be. Because i'll tell you as a guard pick and pop the way this do impasse in way to remove and shoot the guard. The worst i. If i come up with screen i have dual options with you. You have the versatility to either roll to the basket and make a play because you have good footwork right or you can pop out and i can get back to you and you can either make a three or you can put the ball down ground and make a play with passing ability seeing over the top. I just wanted you to express is went to explain a break. It down for the people that now again like we can break down his game and his impact. Obviously the nuggets were very good team. He's a big part of their re. They're winning but it's also another remarkable story not just because it's yet another international player to win the mvp that's three in a row now jaanus winds to and then he wins. This one jaanus was the lowest drafted player to win. The mvp on this yokich was a second round. Pick a second round pick. He told the story to. Rachel nichols he was sleeping when he was drafted. Didn't even think about it. He was sleeping. So you know. I it is still what he's made himself into also something to celebrate a player who is considered overweight. Michael malone was wearing the t shirt here yesterday when celebrating it about over to slow big conversation this offseason. How is gonna come back. What kind of shape is he gonna come back in. And let's not forget like how dominant jamal. Murray was last year in the bubble now. He was just deployed games dominant. So the fact that they've been able to sustain without him right Michael porter jr. has ascended team has on her way shows you how important he's been but he had a terrific season no doubt about it but yes we always look at the voting wonder. How did this player. Lebron got one vote. Overall a fifth-place vote want keeps the street. Going steph. curry. Got some first place votes. So that's where it's at but in bbc so where the nba is right now to centers at one and two in the mvp voting after the season. But speaking of mvp's where's the nfl's mvp that's after key. Has this from indeed. The good news is your business. Double the even better news in can help you hire the right people without the wait. Times of typical recruiting processes. That's because indeed has great hiring platform where you can make call schedule virtual interviews and talk to candidates over video right from your easy to use employer dashboard. It's just another reason to deliver four times. More hires than all the other job sites combine according to talent nest. Find your next great. Hire at indeed dot com slash credit for aaron rodgers. Either dire hero or you live long enough to become the bill when training camp that to the point where these two sides up to say okay. Are we going to find a way to make this work. And we really need to aaron rodgers elsewhere. 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That's geico dot com to morris three seconds two seconds enquirer the other taken. That's why they call them. The stifled tower the call on ninety seven. Five zone rudy. Go bears win ceiling block with seconds remaining cement a one twelve one zero nine victory for the jazz over the clippers in game one of their second round series donovan mitchell. His third career forty five point playoff game type at third-most players i thirty career games. Nba playoff history by the way. He's only twenty eight. Joel embiid went for a playoff career-high forty points as the sixers tied their series with the hawks. One to one and beat is the i seventy sixers play with forty points in a playoff game since alan iverson had forty five in two thousand three dose of the first forty ten player in sixers history since billy cunningham in one thousand nine hundred seventy but you didn't know that eight nicole yokich wins. Mvp after dominant all around season yokich since the fourth center since nineteen eighty-four to win the mvp and the first since shaquille o. Meal in two thousand sports center brought to you by goodyear. Your nose from here on out. Every games a chance to create momentum to make the right past the right move hit the perfect shot. It takes momentum to get through the playoffs takes. Everything captured title goodyear driven. One thing. We should point out about the new. Cba is that they'll get fined fifty grand day for training camp so ten days of training camp is a half a million dollars. Either gonna make him sit. Enforces hand to come in. Or they're going to trade him in. It's all going to fall on air. And either way keyshawn. Jay wills zuber presented by progressive insurance august. Join us on the goodyear hotline allan hahn in for zubin and guys. We talked to rob demovsky yesterday. Covers the packers for espn. We talked to adam schefter as well yesterday. What i am reading. I've just trying to set up the segment. And i'm just glancing over you guys giggling so something funny. How big kids man. I know which is. Why don't i just like to be in on. He gives me some look. Sometimes where i just can't i just i start laughing. Phrasing damage a play. Play too much. Everybody always says play too much me. It's like every time we break. And i go to the bathroom all years doing doing. How long like you only dude whole studio door like you to police. you know how. I'm going to the bathroom all the time. i admit i played. This is why i tell people they take you seriously. Oh he's not no no you just take too seriously no they wanna take me serious. That's the problem. They don't even know me. They they look at you and you see. These therapy is three me with the day. And i don't i don't take you seriously. Which is why enjoyed. I think it's very entertaining. And i'm trying to make sure everybody else. He's that too. That's my job more to get. Yeah they should. They should jay bilas people. Those you all means referring to but my job right now is to get to this conversation and it has to do of course with aaron rodgers. Because it's been a whole half hour guys. How many days ninety ninety seven. He's as eighty. We're down to rip it off the wall we need. I don't go on the wall. Rip it down. Here's here's mathworks guys. Last week malas. As on tuesday there was a big memo sent out. I think i forwarded to you guys hundred emails sent out right. That said one hundred days that was last tuesday. There are seven days a week. Today is wednesday. We're at ninety two days till the nfl season. I see evan trash. See this is what i don't like about. It is breakdown he said you see guys. This is how mathworks like why. Why start there. I to be honest with you. I was gonna say as i told you a couple of days ago. allen i don't count. The regular season started kickoff on thursday night. I don't do that. That's not the start you win. Is the i team entering training camp. Yes what is the first day. I a teen in training camp calories still go to that place in oxnard a couple of weeks. I think it's like probably three weeks. Four weeks yeah. You only did hop show. You never had to do courtland only hostile. Yeah cohen thing. But that of thing was hot too. Did you have to go into the dorm. Yeah we stay beds hospital. How would they make you do that. I put the tube beds. I don't even know. Can you imagine like not just key in his size. How about a three hundred pound lineman going but that's not the issue the issue and we're moving with no i'm gonna get to. The issue is taking the twin beds because typically these dorms. The twin beds were made out of metal and they would stack on top of each other as books. You have to take them down. Push them together to get. I guess two twins. We give your queen. Maybe i guess or something like that or whatever but that wasn't the problem. The damn problem is the edge post on the beds had sharp edges in you loan in you trying to so you put your feta type of cuts from stabbing myself in the middle of the damn night job. Virtually no we got a sweet. So i had a room and then you know you have the middle portion portion so i had to take tape input tape around. It was some macgyver stuff. Oh it was crazy for tampa bay. Tampa bay tampa. Tom went to was right. Lead to a run practice at disney at disney world for worldwide. The whole deal. You can come in and out of that heat. Walk into that hotel lobby. Oh so good yeah. We'll see why we wanna championship. Is that why vesey which y'all strictly strictly because of facility talking about while we were telling me how many days were key. Evan has how many days until the first training camp opens. Yes so the steelers are the steelers and cowboys because they play in the hall of fame game. They're able to begin camp on july twenty first forty one days until the nfl season starts right. What's the one s so not under fifty hugest reprimanded us. Okay well no i mean. I'm i'm now annoyed because six fifty nine days ago we don the hundred day countdown like we wasted months ago. You a countdown me. Well i mean the moment we should have on screen right now counting it down counting it down on just everyday. That's where it should be because you know me us we on the sidelines reporters at first training. Camp minute seven on seven. Oh he threw let's see that was a slant on five seven a different than your normal voice. But that's what we do. Yeah we when we when we're together. We all talk in that voice. They do the they do. Take day every stat. Training every staff doesn't matter like every step is the performance had today two drops today and it's just that's why day one of training camp is important. And they want to training camp. We did not expect to have aaron rodgers their but you will have jordan love there and i think it's very important training camp. I think it's very important. Minicamp love everything. The jordan love is doing right now for the like you you yesterday and have talked about its associates. Minicam doesn't where you're the nfl player. Yeah it doesn't matter like you downplay a lot of this stuff if there's if there's a level of importance to these there's no greater importance than to jordan love in the packers ask you because you don't think it is for jordan love sake of the team not for jordan love as an individual because he slid into the position if aaron rodgers is not going to beat here everybody makes this. I don't know crazy. Filling about mini camps and ot as men camps are not as a not going to give you the measuring stick in which you need to go into the season about what your team is or that particular player that particular indicates there but how about the reps though with vat order right devante. 'cause davante adams is barely getting any reps. Davante adams practice yesterday. Think about it okay. He's not getting any reps because if anything he's gonna patent go he may do a little bit of one on one and he's gonna do some drills and that's pretty much it because it's a mini camps usually are only three to four days in. Its you're trying to get a look at the undrafted free agents the rookie guys that come in the free agency side and that's pretty much it you want to see jordan love kind of take control get in and out of the huddle process the information. Spit it out. So you can gauge the way. The teen feels about him. But that's not going to ultimately make your decision come to fall time on what he isn't because this is where i do think jordan love will get a lot of reps. He'll get reps in how he communicates with teammates. You just mentioned mention that right shoulder. Those relationships. I also think you get the media. And here's where i think there's a look regardless of however an opportunity was afforded to you it's afforded to you. This is your opportunity so as all this stuff happens with aaron rodgers as fans start to say. Pack it up aaron rodgers. Get outta here. I think so a major chance for jordan love. This are gaining some runway. Where fans saying. Hey look like this is what was given. I'm going to make the best of it. I'm here i want to be here. I'm doing all the right things. Let me show you how. I'm doing all the right. Things is set me up for where i want to go with that in mind to. And you mentioned davante adams. I wanna ask you key your if your devante. You're in his situation. Put yourself you did you though. But you're in his situation free agency coming up your qb one. Nowhere to be found. Probably not coming and a young raw quarterback right now seems to be the guy that's going to throw to you. I'm on the reporter. And the first time i get a chance to talk to you. I'm going to ask you about aaron rodgers situation. He's not here. How are you feeling about the situation with the packers right now. The quarterback situation for you as the wide receiver. How you feel about it. I'm going to go out into much. I'm gonna do what i need to do to help. The young guy into aaron gets here for aaron comes the great. And if he doesn't i gotta do. What idea for an for jordan love and in in. Get him to understand certain things when he delivers the football. I don't have to be wide open. Just let it go. I'm a win for you and that's pretty much it. Are you concerned about how could affect you since you have free agency coming up. No because if i sit around and not worry about free agency then you know it's gonna play in my mind. I'm gonna go out to do my best for my team. Which is you could appeal to aaron rodgers. And tell him how much you need him here. Not talk to aaron all the time. But i don't get involved in what air has gone on with the front office. I support my dude. One hundred percent whatever. His decision is at the end of the day. I gotta take care of my business right now. That's why i'm at minicam really questions. Everything you could gain corporate answers. I love what i watch is having all the time in. The meeting is player. I see it. You keep going with the questions in a really good question is i'll get the eventually you hate. Don't get me. You're not always going to be. So i go back to your little raggedy ask you if you put something together. Maybe is sound like. I said what i did. Say gonna blast you next time you come. It's interesting you're not gonna get anything but what you said everything you said. There is pretty much parallel. We'll call this straight talk. Brought to straight talk. Wireless to actually. What devante adam said when he was asked about aaron rodgers and the whole situation take a listen. I got his back through everything so he knows that in his day if he if if there's ever a wonder of you know he's lost a teammate. Or some because of all this come out like he knows where i stand. I'll stand on. Excuse me i stand on a mountain in in scream on a mountaintop that got his back. That was straight talk. Wireless no contract. No compromise. sound familiar aaron's back got jordan's back you know who's back do i need to have a. He also went on to the also when referencing the front office. Saying they gotta do what they gotta do. You know what you mean. Sign my check. that's what they have to do. All y'all is really what he said. This is not about me in true for every single player. You wanna have air rogers there and if they could work it out then great if not i gotta do what i gotta do for the team right now. Now eventually when we get into the season the air rises near where two and four. They'll be too. Was that get chewed out. That's just let's see work. Criticism will come. the devante. didn't make that catch that jordan. You said you just get it. They're all make the catch. But what if that doesn't happen you know you're gonna frustrate it no you you make you frustrated in pool a young guy and get him to understand. We gotta do it a certain way. We need to work together. Maybe there's extra reps do we take after practice post practice. Maybe we come in early before practice starts and we go through some things. Eventually you try to win over his confidence and get him to believe that he can rely on you at the receiver position. You always make it look good no matter where they throw the ball with his shoelaces is going to be a routine catch okay. It's going to look good as long as you throw it. Yeah i can't help you if you sit back. They're putting sweet you back there pat on putting the baby to sleep. I can't help you then. Let the damn ball go if you let it go. I can help you. But if you're holding on to it or you staring down the gun bearer. Wait for it to get fired. That's all ass can't help you see. We asked rob demovsky yesterday about. Hey will this affect devante adams and his potential contract for he. He said it confidently. No it's not going to know. I don't think 'cause devante adams brings to the table. Devante adams i'm having conversations with my team saying hey let's make sure we're all on the same page of mark murphy and brian gets about what we have to accomplish this year. But just having a young quarterback this position is going to be a lot of growing pains and we have to. We have to be noted. The only thing that hurts for davante adams is. If you've got a young quarterback this making you twist and turn and slowing you down so you get hurt. That's the only thing people don't they don't really understand that you know when a guy is running across the middle in a guy throws in somebody throws a ball behind you. Oh yeah and you going to catch it in the people on tv. The first thing they say is oh. The quarterback put it only where he can catch it. What a great. He's protected him not halloween. He threw the ball right there because he missed me so i had to make the adjustment to turn around and catch the ball. Wanna do hit me in my head. They don't get there. The boss goes be placed in front of me is supposed to be like a handle. I think a lot of people when they see the ball thrown behind you on a route that he missed the throw. A lotta people. See that on television. We'll tell you people on television. They would they would say i understand. Threw the ball only where he was protecting him there. He threw it low. No he wasn't protecting me just had a bad throw. And i make the cat dry and you made the play which is going to be the important part for anybody that jordan love throws to this year. Let's bring in mike tannenbaum. Espn nfl front office. Insider on this conversation joins us on the goodyear hotline mike. Good morning i the question. It's you know and you probably have a different take as somebody in the front office. As a coach would as well of the value of minicamp of otas even before training begins key as a player. Not important you're not gonna get a lot done but i would. Would you say though that. If there's an the most important minicamp would be the packers. Because of jordan love and having to get him up to speed as soon as possible. Yeah absolutely guys. And here's why jordan didn't play last year if we go back to the pandemic every route was precious trump and that went to the starter. So you know if we're ever discussion. You know just justin fields or during love me as more. You can make the argument that it's during low because just in fields played more football last year than loved. It and i think context is really important to bruce. Arians had recently is really instructive. which is Split their suad tom. Rays of the world don't need the same instruction as their rookies. I think that's what we're going to see more around the league so during love needs every possible. Rep you can get you mentioned justin field jordan. Love they both essentially or rookies. Because much like you said jordan love didn't take a rep last year who Mike is in a better situation. This year to succeed we know what chicago offense looks like in their skill position players and we also know the green bay packers office. Looks like with with out. Eh rogers joe. That's that's a really good question. Boy i you're i still like green bay key. Just because they could be so explosive. And i'm thinking even if he plays twelve thirteen games. I just don't think an rogers. It's the whole under with green bay. Peter king pitched a scenario to train. Aaron rodgers after one. More season in green bay. And you know where the scenario essentially was saying. Hey you play for us. We do whatever we do in this year. Twenty twenty one after twenty twenty one. We gotta do a good. Oh handshake and i'm going to move you get maximized value. How would you approach a situation like that. Had been a general manager before or would you at all sit up and say that yeah key you know. It's just something similar Last week which was baby. You just take the last two years of the contract and you just boy them. He plays this year now with that. Said that allows green bay to have in their back pocket the franchise tag but at least it kinda. You know for for both parties. You know a decision that has to be made so. I think that's a solution that could certainly work. It's the ultimate compromise puts a band aid on this season. it's not ideal for either side but it may be the best result possible. So i think there's some merit there for sure. My julio jones gets traded to the talian. How good do you think this is going to be. I think they're gonna compete with kansas city In the afc and You know sometimes when you trade wide receivers they make an impact. Sometimes they don't. And i think this is one of those cases where they do. So i think julio jones and aj brown will be a formidable duo and i. I like tennessee a lot. I felt like there was something toward me. But i'm gonna leave that alone trae. Why receiver yeah. They make an impact. John fire but did this was getting a second round. Pick for julio a win would you say considering his age could they have done more. Yeah no i. I think we get factory. Seventeen million dollars i. It's it's a tough call. Because i think julio is healthy playing seventeen games he's probably the best receiver in the league Maybe outside of tyreek hill. I think tyreek hill could make the one or two plays every game changes. Y'all come so from that standpoint. Think tennessee got good value. One of the hard things guys when you sit in that seat is you want to make sure you're trained for what the players going to do. Not what he's done and does a little bit of a concern because you know clearly. Julio jones is best days are behind him if he plays in seventeen games. It just don't know how you defend offense. Do double him do you double. Aj brown and if you late in the box you know you're the balts derrick henry bryan tan hilton also make plays with his feet. I think their their diversity on their offense Is one that can be really hard to defend their their defenses. Have to play much better but offensively. I put them right up there with us. Kansas city. Okay i you know i am i gotcha. I feel different about it. But maybe because i've been on one. Julio jones has been on one is entire career. And i'm sure he feels if he's healthy he still won. Aj brown has to be able to put up the numbers to get the extent. He's looking for all of a sudden. You take the football out of derrick. Henry is hands because you got to shiny toys that you think can help you match in play along the way we kansas city. I just. I don't know it felt a little bit different about it. Because tiny hill has never been a forty a tip type guy with a high completion percentage. But that being said mike. Let me ask you. Baker mayfield important. Is this season. Not only for the cleveland browns but baker mayfield. As a whole i tell you it's really important key. Because i just don't know if he's a front line guy that you're gonna wanna pay thirty five three million dollars a year or two. I think that's a really good offense. They got maybe the best running back duo in the league. They got really good skill players. And if you're cleveland and do you feel like you could get you know comparable store production of say someone like kirk cousins so in that fancies familiar with and now you have fifteen twenty million dollars more to give some of the other talented players on the team so i think this is a hugely consequential year for baker mayfield. My thanks so much as always talk to you soon. Okay thanks guys thanks mike. Mike tannenbaum on the goodyear we to talk about that line. Yeah that last comment by mitee. I'd like key. And i have a lot to say about. That is interesting but you know what more on the walkie. Milwaukee is this. Bud's still for you. It's next k. j. z. Espn radio and siriusxm channel. Eighty do own or rent your home show you do. Fortunately geico makes it easy to bundle your home and car insurance. It's a good thing too. Because having a home is hard work go to geico dot com. Get a quote and see how much you could save. Geico dot com easy.

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Love Looking Nice in Packers Camp

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Love Looking Nice in Packers Camp

"The era rogers does not want to return to the green bay. Packers never run about the draft. Pick jordan's great kid. This is about jordan love. This isn't about twenty twenty. Tuesday is here and there was no sign of aaron rodgers. Needs every rep. You can get right now. You can learn something from both the good and the bad and it didn't tell all that well in fact it was probably the least accurate day that we've seen from law and this is a five hundred team if looks is good which we don't know and the passes don't even know what a time to be jordan. Love fresher mounting daily with real possibility. That loves starts game. One of the twenty twenty one season for the packers against the saints. You're looking at love their back on the field camp today and a couple of minutes details on how he looked. Today i love spoke at the media for the first time since last august. He was asked if he's ready to go day. One here's what he said. One hundred percent Obviously this is a time where. I'm getting a lot of extremely valuable reps that you know. I might not have been getting in a normal circumstance. So non. Just i'm gonna take it day by day and But yeah that's that's what i'm here for. I'm i was draft here to play quarterback so I'll definitely be ready week. One adam schefter dinner lost here for the hour. Tim hasselbeck moments away as well. Adam we start with you. How his love viewed within the organization at this point quote laura. He had a great day today. If you read. The accounts from rob demovsky are packers. Be writer jordan. Love lit up at practice today. And i think here's the issue you're going to see everything that jordan love. Does it practice documented throughout the summer or until aaron rodgers does or does it get back their every move he makes will be incredibly scrutinized. We're gonna be asking me on a daily basis. How realization views today now short-term won't term for the season and so this is just part of the territory that combs the very difficult disarming of being next in line after our rod which in this case means playing taking the snaps snaps reps with the ones at mandatory minicamp today this week. Dan what do you think. I mean i think first of all it's important understand for jordan. Love that this is a football team that is built to take on a young quarterback that is needing development. This is a football team. That's got one of the best offensive lines in the game. A top five run game pretty diversified skill position group one of the best receivers in football and what they believe is hopefully improving defense here talking about a situation that let's live in the over. Aaron rodgers does not play for green bay jordan. Love is not going to be tasked and or to do with thomas stops. He's going to leave the point guard to operate the offense and not have a lot of demand with the subpar roster. I think a lot of pressure on the floor their head coaching playcaller because with aaron rodgers matlin floors allowed to operate in a situation of strength. Right it's like talking to you. Same bolt about sprinting. You could talk about stride. Length and frequency and power in ankle with a guy like that but going to jordan love is going to be talking about it with a newborn toddler. that's just learning to walk. You're going to have to go back in time. As a coach. Coaching go over the basics with him and so the challenge is going to fall upon matlock. Florida figure out a way to communicate and teach jordan love but also try to get somewhat similar results. That aaron rodgers was able to get dan a newborn toddlers really big baby adam. I wanna follow up on something. That i think is been a conversation in the league. Because we've seen this have to happen recently in the patriots situation replacing legendary quarterback i. It's so difficult to do. So let's say that's what happens with the packers and they're having to replace aaron rodgers. What is a conversation around the league. About how hard that is see. I always remember. Bob greasy the hall of fame quarterback saying before his son took over for john. Elway that you don't want to be. The guy takes over for a hall of fame quarterback and if we going look at the notable recent teams and what they've done looking at. How difficult news to do that. Job and take over for a hall of fame quarterback only one team over the last twenty years gone to the playoffs. That was the miami. Dolphins dealer took the place. Look at the records of those teams. That lost all of quarterback. Yesterday i said that the packers worse teams. Look here's the deal with rogers. They're one of the best without him. They take a big drop. Because you see how difficult it is to replace a quarterback that great of that stature it impact so much about your organization that again very few teams are able to overcome that in the season after and some take years to get back to where they would like to be out to your point we have to refer to history for a lot of this as a direction. Let's bring in. Rob demovsky live from packers camp right now and rob out of mentioned it yesterday. Detailing of the accuracy issues love display. This is just a really dramatic saga particularly in the two minute drill. But how did love look today. Watch him one day and he looks like he's light years away from being ready watching the next and it looks like he could start right now because that's where his first two days of minicamp yesterday he struggled with accuracy and it was mostly check downs. Today he was zipping the ball all over the place. He was throwing the ball down the field. How did he turn it around so quickly. As a quarterback is a in any position you got gotta quickly hit that reset button Certainly you want to have success because again. Your confidence grows and gives you I guess more more confident and be consistent. Make those plays but you gotta treat every day as its own entity and and you can't rest on what you did the day before whether it's good or bad and that's what we're looking for from him and i think he's done a nice job responding On a daily basis love was so hot at one point in practice hitting throws all over the place. The tight ends coach. Justin took his play card in started. Fanning love off as if to cool him off. You heard him say that he would one hundred percent be ready to play week one and be the starter at new orleans days like today would make the packers agree with that. But don't forget tomorrow is a new day. The final day of mandatory minicamp. Yeah we'll find out. What does tomorrow from you robin. And that's what we do here on the show if someone has a hot take phantom off We do that a lot to dinner orlovsky. We got tim hasselbeck here as well. We got two cornerbacks to talk about this. The spotlight is going to be on love right. Dana and day out. Adam talked about it. We await rogers decision here. But how much wave. You give loves daily performance in these updates. That were getting tim. I'm not riding the roller coaster. I am not less if we want to look at you know not a in its entirety minicamp if you will or if you want to look at a training camp in in its entirety or preseason you know where you're combining for games in this entirety short fine. I don't think any of our time to evaluate without context of the actual plays knowing the situation that they might be to think that day in practice to date some type of judgment. If you know jordan love is going to be ready or not based on individual practices. I think it's premature to do that. Really good quarterbacks have bad practices now you string fifteen of them together. Maybe have a problem with the up down day to day. i think it's just way too premature. It certainly what we're going to do. But i don't think it will give us an indication over what type of quarterback he's actually going big now disagree with that. I think that we could put some weight because these are huge practices and huge performances. Coming out of college there was a lot of potential attacks jordan. Love but the question mark was while he's got some accuracy issues so then he's the first quarterback in two thousand and five last year doesn't start as a first round draft pick at -sition. He's not even good enough in. There is already enough to be the backup quarterback and then he gets the first minicamp practice in the conversation as well. He looked inaccurate. Like that is because tim. You know this at some point pads come on and guys come and try to split your face in half when you're getting hit so it's only going to get harder so i want to hear the conversation of his accuracy. Being good i think for jordan love. It's not only important to get these xs and os. It is important to get the reps of them. Success and failure. That's like in. The nfl for quarterback can have good days. Good games that days. In bad games the more reps he gets in the situational football and handling it the better off he will be if in when september comes in. He's their guy. Yeah i do want to point out. That yesterday was really the first day that he had a chance to work with some of the number one guy is. He didn't even get to work with all of them. Because even guys like davante adams off to the side. So i think that factors in as well. Let's get into some more news today. The texans announce they will not have many camp next week as head coach. David kelly says they got enough work. Done these past four weeks. All is remains still on quarterback deshaun watson who has not been at the voluntary ot as was not expected to show up after asking for a trade in january and of course dealing with legal issues as well. John's former teammate. And current denver broncos safety kareem jackson was on the captain fades with a key to leave. Had this to say about this sean. I've got a great relationship with shaun. I've been talking to him these last couple of weeks and all we've been saying all he's been telling me is look jack. Just tell them like. That's where i want to be. I want to be in denver. So again to shawn watson. According to kareem jackson saying he wants to be in denver. Adam schefter what more can you tell us about the current situation with watson. I hope that jack asked to show him. What's of okay saying that. I put aside from that. We give has that and we look at all the moves at the houston. Texans made this off season. And what they're telling you is they're not planning on having to shawn watson this season or maybe ever again again as that investigation goes on in houston as the nfl's investigation goes on as we wait to see whether or not they will be disciplined in this particular case. The texans have acted as if they cannot count on and are not preparing to have to shawn watson in the future. My understanding is of course that they will not sell him at a discount. They will not deal at a discount. They will look to feel. His value is in full before they make a move with him but just look at everything that they've done this season. They signed tyrod taylor. They draft davis mills with their top hick. Which wasn't until later in the draft but it was still their very first pick in the upcoming or in the past. Nfl draft and then they signed geoff driscoll giving him a half million dollars in guaranteed money. They've made enough moves at the quarterback position to tell you that they're making other plans. And i think we talked to people around the league. They believe that. The texans will not just move on from shawn watson that they will wait until is value is almost back in whole before they make a move with him. But i think there's a league wide assumption. That the shawn watson very will may have played his last down with the houston texas well and yeah adam. I mean when you think about that. It's gonna take time if that value can get back to where it would have been before that takes a long time as legal process has to work itself out so guys dan and tim. This is a situation where the most important thing is figuring out the legal side of this right. But let's say shawn watson really has played his last down football as a texan dan. Where makes sense for him to try and go especially considering a large amount of time that we don't know how much that's even gonna before he could play again the initial thought of the teams that have been the conversation for potentially earn rogers again. The denver broncos the las vegas raiders. Potentially the miami dolphins and then the team that if everything clears itself out that i would keep an eye on because they need a now answer and a long-term answer would be the washington football team. Who again is in the nfc about houston. I would have the biggest desire. If i'm going to trade him which i think they will get into the nfc. And i think washington is looking for their guy for the next decade. Was dan mentioned all the teams. I think that if we're going to put the legal stuff behind us. I mean the fact of the matter is shawn watson fantastic quarterback. He's young would make a lot of things better. You know. I think that getting to that point if you think back to the texans unwillingness to trade him prior any of the off field stuff You know being brought to light. They were willing to do it then. And they were certainly would have been looking for a massive amount of compensation so of what adam is saying is correct in that you know. They're not going to. They're going to wait for his value. To rebound this could take quite a while for shawn watson when they told when they wait for his value to be restored. Basically it may not be with the season again. Let's see how all these cases turn out. Let's see how the discipline works out if there is discipline right and then once you get past that maybe next off season it'll be a full year. It could be that the shawn watson. Nothing's decided on his future until them but when we talk about where he would fit again i think we have the same discussion with the shawn watson that we did with russell. Wilson aaron rodgers. And that's he would fit on twenty five. Nfl teams almost everybody outside kansas city buffalo. A team with a quarterback that it knows it's building around for years to come should be reviewing that situation and making a determination about whether to shawn watson would or could be an upgrade over their particular current quarterback and prior to the draft. And everything that happened. A lot of those teams absolutely were as adam had reported. Do own or rent your home. Sure you and. I bet it can be hard work you know. It's easy bundling policies with geico. Geico makes it easy to bundle your homeowner's or renter's insurance along with your auto policy. It's a good thing too because you already have so much to do around your home. Go to geico dot com quote and see how much you could save. Its geico easy visit. Geico dot com today. That's geico dot com. nfl live. Let's go to tampa. We're just about a week ago. Bruce arians said he expected. Tom brady to be more of a coach. At minicamp palm apparently had other plans. Yesterday he was full. Go to the point that. I had to pull him back a few times. Pretty sure ghosts only one speed brady in the bucks. We'll look to pick up where they left off. Last season they're often surged down. The stretch ranking first or second points per game yards per game and offenses efficiencies from weeks. Tens or seventeen so major improvement right as the season. Went on really addressed the media. Today we've got some bad news for defense. It's he explained. Just how injure. He was during last season's championship run. I had to spend a lot of time attending to that particular injury. Which happens when you have something. That's you know you need it. Ultimately have surgery to get fixed. It was an injury. I dealt with Really you know. Since last. April may i knew i would have to do something at the end of the year and a happy i did it and it was probably something that was needed to be done. And there's a great outcome sell very happy about that. I fill out the do some different things this year that i was able to do. All right let me get this straight. Tom brady he needs needs. Serve free have to get it at the end of the season but just know plays the whole season win the super bowl at age forty two. How crazy is this guy. I mean what's going on here. This is ridiculous. I hope people understand what he said. So basically april may of twenty twenty. He finds out. And i've got to have knee surgery and then spends the year basically tending to that. He getting you ready. You know goes to a new team meets. New teammates learns a new. Offense goes on wednesday super bowl and then has surgery on that knee in february like in perspective. When i was forty two i had two knee surgeries on the same gained about thirty pounds and stopped going upstairs. Okay so like what he's done is absolutely remarkable and. I don't know that there's ever been a player that has taken better care of their body throughout their career than tom brady and ten. Don't sell yourself short. You really bounced back. Well from that so i was gonna come on. Dan don't be mean so. Dan a healthy brady. They return all the starters right. I may be asking the impossible here but can you find me a weakness at all on this team to maybe like give some other teams some hope. The comfort of time you know go back to last year showed up those great stats week. Ten through seventeen but weeks one through ten were somewhat up and down relatively ugly pounding the table on our show of what they needed to do. Expensively right and what happened was because they were in the middle of the season and they were cluttering time. Force them to to make a decision. Okay we're going to go for this offense that were trying run and then we're going to do this stuff that tom wants to do. And the offense to your point took all they have right now is whole off the comfort of times. There's no reason for them to panic or go what we have you on my own. This is a nit-pick this is a nit-pick is if the coaches or the steps it back no you know what maybe we will try to stuff that we didn't do well last year or maybe we will try that stuff that bruce arians really wanted to do other than that this offense. We'll be better and when it comes to ability and talent. No there is absolutely no weakness on this offense. Yeah it's really scary at sal pal. Did point out yesterday that todd bowles from the defensive side it put in a whole bunch of new stuff. That brady was trying to check out so on defense. They're doing some different things already. Warning outside. lines the emmy and peabody award. Winning show tackles the most important issues in sports time. What college athletics is going to look like taking you beyond the headlines. Every sport is yet your important. 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There were thirty two quarterbacks selected in the first round of those three to ninety four percents started in their rookie season. So the question about this year's first round rookie quarterback's maybe shouldn't be. It's still start window. Start right if you draft him that high. You gotta put them out there. You gotta play on. So we got a couple of quarterbacks with us today and you know what shefty could be a quarterback to. We thought we'd have. These guys weigh in on three highly contested veteran versus rookie. Qb competitions to watch this year. Tim defending the vets. Dan's making a case for the rookies sensible. We'll start with the patriots who drafted mack jones. The fifteenth pick overall also bringing cam newton back. Tim what is cam. newton needed. Dude remain the starter in new england. He needs to show way better. Understanding of the passing game. Concepts in new england obviously really struggled year ago thing about an eight touchdowns picks less than twenty seven hundred yards. I really when you think about it. He's playing on backup money last year and then again this year. It's the played better than that to justify playing veteran over a quarterback that was drafted in the middle of the first round. So that's what i think. He needs to do better jobs mainly just as a half. They're playing the position yet. Ten for me is mack. Jones is going to win this job number one. He needs to have mastered protection operation. Understand where the pressure is going to be and then own it and then also godly with. This is going to be a football team. That's really good running the football. If mack jones can handle the blitzes and place the ball exactly where it needs to be placed for a ton of yards after catch. Which is something that offense was at. Its best with tom. Brady. that's what. He majored in keys. Their absolute distributed the football. All over the place and allow orlando bloom. type accuracy. The show up tint mack. Jones is going to be the guy tim said. Last year cam. Newton was paid backup money and he's being paid back up money to a certain extent this year but he plays the true backups. Last year's which is why the patriots set a record during free agency and headed weapons at wide receiver tight and they come in with an entirely new in samba of weapons surrounding cam newton. Who will be given the first chance to show that he can play with them. I the it's cans jobs lose for mack jones takeover. Some point in time interesting okay. The bears tweeted out that. Andy dalton is there. Qb one justin feels looking at change. That ten how. Andy dalton win the starting job in chicago by doing a lot of the things that he did for the majority of his career in cincinnati. You know can say they want about andy dalton postseason record back to the matter is he plays with drink timing anticipation and accuracy or has the majority career if he can do those things operate offense efficiently and a chance to basically be the guy. That's the bridge. Justin fields and surrounded by good talent post by the right coaching staff. Have some success doing that. Just feels become their starter if he allows himself to. Survival in. Playing quarterback is about surviving. And there's a lot of different ways to do it but when you have let them and the long three that just feels does that allows play on the field faster also the ability to get outside the pocket. You can get creative in your run game. When you're you're passing game when you do that and then broken plates. Justin field allow this offense that has an average offensive line and average because of his athleticism to shine. Is survival instincts. We'll be why you started to me. It reminds me a little bit when they drafted this is again. The bears proclaimed andy dalton cutie. One that's the plan. He will be the started opening day. Barring anything unforeseen the issue of mickey what happens if in anti-doping struggles at some point has some interceptions. They lose some games and all the fans in chicago will be screaming for justice field. Which is going to happen and the bears with stay all and do what's in the best interest of the franchise long-term in a holdall all those polls brandy dolan job. Haven't the forty niners. They traded up to get the third pick in the nfl draft to take treat lands. But jimmy g. hasn't guys let super bowl tim. What's the key for jimmy g. Starting in san francisco. As i think laura wanders missile crack. Starting jobs needs to place so great that it's hard for them to move off him but most importantly he needs to stay healthy because that's really been the biggest for him in terms of you know scott lack of success in san francisco so all of those things to happen garoppolo to have a chance that have the starting job for part of upcoming season. Trae lynch needs to have his kidneys. Coach wanna play eleven on eleven football. Not ten on eleven football. You can do so much trains. Because if his outlet physically cow wants to major in the game but just what he used to do with. Rg three. This is when you have the mobile quarterback guys you can play eleven on eleven football. We're talking down to the red zone zone. Read game we're talking down. Red quarterback draw especially situational. Full palestinian can dial up so many different run games aspects utilizing trae lent as a runner. He can play eleven eleven football. That's why you can be they're starting trae lance and just feels and mac ios really all in the same category. It's up to them. How quickly they start. Depending on how quickly they pick up the offense and display the talent naval them to be the first round picks they worked. That's how soon they'll start. They're going to be given a chance to compete. And it's question of who can shine the quickest keep having a voice in my ear that say trae lance of all. These quarterbacks is the closest to be ready to start his rookie year. So we'll see if that holds up in training camp this summer. I like that voice in your ear. Adam and listen like if you were going to look at it. He was drafted the highest and he was the guy that the forty niners went up to get. Not just because of his skill set but because of his mental capacity and the way that he can process the game. All right so tim. You said what jimmy would have to do for him to go ahead and keep that job or win it however you wanna look at it but if you had to right now tim pick a starter for the forty niners. Who do you pick. I'm picking freelance. I also want to tell schefter that european is to the producer the producer and them traded needs to be there starter. It's francisco voices in our ears or not look. Basically played a year off of football. He played one game. He's been a starter at a at the collegiate level for one year. And i just don't think you can have him take another year awful football. I think the circumstances surrounding his situation. We've never seen anything like it. I mean he. He needs to play in. So i actually don't think there's really scenario where make sense at all for the niners jimmy garoppolo. They need to play. Trae land and dan alluded to this. You know with eleven on eleven football. He's gonna come up with ways to get him. Have some success. And i think they need to do that. You want to start see. Not only san francisco traded up. Did it allow them to pick the quarterback that they wanted after. Trevor lawrence went one. And zack wilson one to but it also enabled them to conduct testing interviews with these guys than i think other quarterbacks wouldn't have had they wouldn't have had the chance to if they stayed at number twelve. So that extra access to every one of these quarterbacks who all wanted to go number three extra time with trae lands extra time with mac jones. Extra time were just field. The one takeaway was that trae. Lance is intelligence level was off the charts his i. Iq was off the charts. The way he was received by his teammates was off the charts so if all that is in place clearly there's going to be a certain magnetism to him going into training camp. Show me. You can't do the job that would be my mindset abutment san francisco trae lance show me. You can't. i'm giving you every opportunity to prove to me that you're not ready and if you're not ready fine but i know this offense inside and i've played for multiple years in the nfl. It is going to stress the center. More intellectually bennett is a young quarterback again. There are going to though many wide open throws because of the threat of the run game with trae land. This offense is going to be easier for him to play and everyone like it's important for everybody to get reminded. This is not forty years ago. Coming into the nfl. The game is so much more spread out. The rpo coaches are so much smarter like the ability to just get ball out of quarterbacks hands. It's not that taxings to play a young quarterback in the nfl. Compared to twenty thirty years ago. Dan look shanahan. Did for rg threes rookie year. He brought in basically y'all ran and baylor he tailored it to him. He made it easy. So that new. I start going into new orleans into one of the toughest places against it was a up because the was done. He's advantage and shanahan knew a lot of this would be on him when they made this decision to go ahead and get tree lynn. Back on the nfl lives packers. Mandatory minicamp well underway without aaron rodgers jordan. Love seeing right there. Qb one under a magnificent spotlight poor performance yesterday is terrible and today is amazing so this is going to be a world for a little while. Right adam schefter here for the last six weeks we've had these. Mandatory minicamps circled in the situation between aaron rodgers. And the packers. What's the next step though of importance. Here was it in the next episode Camp and the aaron rodgers watched which has been going on for months now continues onto training camp while the packers themselves way to see were there. Aaron rodgers decides to report for training camp. At that time he missed the ota's he missed virtual offseason program. He missed the mandatory minicamp and my understanding is. Is that the packers president. The general manager very well may make another run at trying to meet with aaron rodgers at the conclusion of this mandatory minicamps. Some time here in the coming days or weeks they are likely to try to meet with him again and again see if they can get some type of different response that would enable him to show back up in green bay in time for training camp but to point. I don't know that anybody knows how this is going to turn out. Since i have to wait and see the motto of the moment here all right aaron rodgers and the packers were obviously one of the last four teams in the playoffs from the nfc last year along the super bowl. Champion buccaneers the saints and the ranch. So tim if hard for teams to make this point back to back right so who is a team that could be one of the final four teams out of the nfc this year. You remember what happened last year and you try to take everything into consideration. Going into the season i'm going to go with the arizona cardinals. Look at the cardinals. And i see a quarterback that has already a superstar about mary lou for about four thousand yards a year ago. Rush about eight hundred yards and eleven touchdowns. I think that he is an absolute headache defending he's wanted to get even harder to defense forward. I think we're there can be growth is as there's been some changes on that defense vance joseph Certainly has his work cut out for. But i think we'll do a good job on that side of the ball. I think the improvement can really come from cliff. Kingsbury does a good job with that offense. They designed guys open. They're going to always be a handful on that side of the ball. I think it's just doing a better job of being a head coach. All the aspects of it in terms of engaging management managing players all of those different things that you do as a head coach. I think we'll see growth there narrate zona one of these teams that we see near the top of the nfc. Your i love that one. I'll tell you the washington football team. I think first of all this offense is gonna be predicated on a ton of speed. It might be the fastest offense in the nfl. We're talking terry mcauliffe outside. Then they got curtis samuel in free agency. Mcchord is coming one of the best receivers in the nfl. Not just one of the best young ones fifty is going to have a ton of weapons the throat through yami brown. North carolina is a huge tonio gibson. At tailback. those are four guys. That absolute offensively again. I'll say this could be fastest offense in the nfl now. Fizi has those roller coaster rides because he plays with no fear of failure. He's just gonna play that yolo chuck style of football but he plays his best when he's got a defense that can bail them out a little bit and that's what he's gotten. Washington is a dominant defense. I think washington has the chance to be an outstanding football teams and certainly winning that division and then making noise into the playoffs back. Some linebackers sign the oldest laura in. You're basically yesterday after saving collins. Som- tweeted out the news that he had signed to which. Jj what was quick to respond saying how much how much. Because i want to know what. I'm able to get for breakfast and so basically c. j. c. watts response right there. How much shefty got to know what the next breakfast order will be. I can't even read without my glasses on here. But essentially jesse while once practice and jamie colleges sign as i told you can get whatever you want. Whatever you from saving collins he's buying. That's a rookies. do i think it was just. Don't day so. I don't know the gauge. You want as much interested in donuts. But again i think. Jd real. Get what he wants breakfast. Hear me now back here on. Nfl lies back bond. So far now we may never retrieve it. But anyway i will tell you what's coming up next for real but by the way shots adam. Schefter me on this show host. The show said all year long. He was expected to retire. This was expected to be his. Last season were underway in the big easy freeze flushes to his right throws in picked off at the forty straubing as the pass at intercept picked off by group breeze. Probably walking away from the game that it to play twenty years in the nfl. I wanna be able to look back with incredible memories. And knowing that i gave it my absolute best the saints faced with the task of replacing a hall of fame quarterback case pill versus jameis winston. Who wins this job in the chance to orchestrate the first step into life without drew brees they have very different skill. Set so to sean. Payton need to be thinking about two different offense schemes for two. Qb's he addressed that yesterday. Votes tried to look closely at the strengths of our players. What they do well and will build a little bit around That player accordingly and in at something we did when drew. I arrived here and we would do with either of these two buyers. There's certain things that you might do specifically to one or the other in yet they're still an overall philosophical approach that these guys will learn to play offense but it's not a whole different game plan for each one of them out of there any sense around the league. What the plan at quarterback will be for the saints. We'll laura i. They love both quarterbacks. Truly and i think that they're going to give them both a chance. Maybe it'll wind up looking a lot like last year with jameis winston stepping into the drew brees role and tatum hill. Continuing the taste hill rule. But i think they'll try to figure that out once they get the training camp. But i know that feels very strongly about both quarterbacks. They're very impressive. James were very tasting tilt a lot of money and so it's hard to say exactly how it's going to shake out but i think in a significant time in the franchise's history. We saw running the show. How hard it is to replace a hall of fame quarterback and the saints are in the same situation that we talked about for the packers now. Having to replace drew brees also feels like sean payton wants to prove that he could change things up for james winston. Right so dan if it is james. Do you expect to see him. Take a hugely ford right. The leap we always felt like his talent warrants. One hundred percent because it sean payton background. If we look at sean payton track record in his work with quarterbacks if you go back to the new york giants wicker quarterback performance with their before. He got there in the new year. He got number quarterback performance when he went to dallas cowboys your before when he got there and then the quarterback performance by to brief the year. Before sean payton. They're talking about a thousand more yards four touchdowns or less interception almost ten points hiring qbr. I mean we're passer rating. Excuse me we're talking about james having the opportunity because of an with sean payton to have the best your hat in the nfl. And i think you know. Certainly sean schematically wants to run the football. But it's a good fit because they want to use that for their play action chunk game something that james winston does very well but then sean also wants to do the. Hey i'm gonna give you. These layup throws these gimmes. Just take these five or six yards. Please and i would argue that. James never had that in the nfl. He's never had that and one. Sean has those five six seven plays built into every game. That he's saying james. Just take these five or six yards just as important as it is to get rid of those turnovers if he says yes coach. I'm just gonna take these six easy yards here on a consistent basis games winstons gonna play really good in new orleans. James is the guy there. Dan i i mean look at a couple of factors here and i know tastes. Them is making a lot of money as adam reference. Here's the deal. Taste hell's going to be about thirty one years old at the beginning of the season. Jameis winston's twenty-seven jameis winston has as many touchdown passes thrown in the. Nfl is pay. Some hill has attempts jameis. Winston people shouldn't forget. I know out of sight out of mind is that he had some really good moments. You're right about coaching interceptions. In turnovers through your point about some of the easy completions and throws that helps make that happen. I think the saints and reference. Mrs wealth looks like moving on from drew. Brees is going to be hard. What the other thing that is hard is defending that saints off when taste hills lined up as a tailback. Then tight then. A wide receiver then is in the backfield as a quarterback without a personnel change in the running quarterback power. Right down your throat to me. I think the best thing would be to use tastes than the way they've been using them and go ahead and make that move to james. Yeah it makes their offense so unique for sure did let's live in a world where jameis winston is what we think he could be right and he's excellent or at least pretty good. How great is this saints team. Then well they lost two key players. Offensively ready jared cook moving on from tight end and emmanuel sanders. Going up to buffalo are big losses. That's lot of production that they counted on. That's another person. Opposite michael thomas emmanuel sanders or jared. Cook down the middle of field still a very good offensive line and alvin kamara. One of the best pieces in the league. But they're going to have to find people on the perimeter end at tied now to kind of build up production to grow along with jameis. Winston does speak to the point of having case hill as a weapon. That could help. Talk one more thing before we go. We got a quarterback from the show so we thought maybe we would give a little love throughout the quarterback bought. This is justin ferber looking swell out. There looks like ten when ten played A little less like dan. But what you guys think when it comes down to the curia. I think the shirt up. I mean maybe it. Maybe these maybe. I'm going to have to change these push ups and bodyweight squats because herbert looks picking. I look like a twelve year old swimmer. I'm gonna have to figure out a dip away. Two brand joined the found jet hundred. Do you own or rent your home. Sure you do. Fortunately geico makes it easy to bundle your home and car insurance. It's a good thing too. Because having a home is hard work go to geico dot com. 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"We have got game. One of the best of three women's college world series championship finals. Coming your way from oklahoma city our coverage starts at seven eastern on espn and on the espn app. And with that we welcome you back here to another arab. Get up we come to always live. From above the heineken river deck appear seventy-nine greeny and weird chaim packed. Here we go with the menu for our number two this morning. It is time to get up with the first day of the rest of your life in green bay. The work is mandatory. The quarterback is incoming what happens now. He's got the answers thin to tampa live. Where tom brady begins yet. Another quest for unprecedented glory. We'll live with tom. Brady on the field. And the monday night. Massacre should reduce give the ground to k. d. and company right now all that and more as we can't up with you starting right now with mandatory minicamps beginning today including the world champions. The buccaneers on the practice field looking to become the ninth. The repeat chance in nfl. History the last team to do it with quarterback by tom brady and the early two thousand. The giants are at practice. Today opened the window. Four year playoff drought with daniel jones. Under center they signed kenny. Golladay saquon barkley back from injury as well also returning to full strength. Are they cowboys that prescott back with a new four year. One hundred sixty million dollar extension after suffering a compound fracture in his ankle last october. And then of course. The packers. The center of all of the drama. They expect to be without aaron rodgers. Are adam schefter reporting. The green bay does not expect rogers who attend their three day. Mini camp would start today. Rogers defined upwards of ninety thousand dollars for that absence in here. Is adam schefter and chaffee for those who are just joining us. What is the way that someone you spoke to described. Aaron rodgers mentality as of right now as of right now greenie aaron rodgers is quote unquote strong as hell on this particular issue. Now again we look for little hints and morsels of information that allow us to read. The tea leaves where it's at today and we're set today. Sounds very discouraging. If you're the green bay packers and you're hoping that aaron rodgers is gonna be back for the mandatory minicamp beyond. He's not going to be back there today. There are no plans to report. Obviously he would miss the mandatory minicamp for the very first time in his career. He's already missed in skipped the ota's costing him a five hundred thousand dollars half million dollar workout bonuses. He's not gonna collect usually a regular participant in that. Obviously he's never missed. A mandatory minicamps is now willing to be subjected to ninety three thousand dollars. Finds that the green bay packers will have to ask themselves. We better off finding our future hall of fame quarterback or not inflaming an already inflamed situation and letting that go and so in my mind. I think that they'll say that. This is an excused absence. Therefore rodgers will not be subject to the ninety three thousand dollars worth of fines. I'm also told that the team president mark murphy. The general manager. Brian the discussed in plan to try to go visit him again to try to convince him to come back to green bay. Sometime after the minicamps again no firm plans no firm date set but those discussions have occurred. And we'll see whether they follow through on that to try to go yet again to try to accomplish what they've been unable to accomplish throughout the off season which is to bring out and rogers back to green bay which again brings us back the initial statement that right now aaron rodgers is court strongest hell on his stance of where he's at one thousand percent clear though for everyone who has not been following this every day. He's strong hell on his stance that he is demanding. Trade is it as simple as hell on. No i think he's strong as hell in his feelings about the organization and not wanting to play there. He hasn't demanded anything. He hasn't said anything like that. He hasn't said he's retiring again. We're not at that level you know. That doesn't mean it's not going to get there at the start of training camp or another point this summer but he has not changed his feelings. Which again are reflected in his actions. Didn't go to otas. Nocco into mandatory. Minicamps has not taken part in the virtual offseason program as well that he participated in at some point last year so again all the things that he did do before doing none of them right now. Right that's fair. Let me bring teddy. And tim and here and shefty stay with us. Because i want to have everyone in this conference. Where am i here. I am okay so teddy. Let me start with you. Because that distinction feels important to me the difference between being strong as hell about demanding a trade and strong as hal about not wanting to play there. I know that may sound. Like i'm sort of parsing words but there is a difference because the second one of those sounds like. It's something that could theoretically be worked through. If they try super hard shefty's already shaking his head me but but let me start with teddy. Does that feel to you like something. Someone could try and work through i. Can i can tell you how i feel. But the feelings are really important of aaron rodgers and it's no matter what situation it is. I don't wanna play. I don't like you. Or i want you to trade me. How the quarterback feels something happened here to where the green bay packers for god. What was most important. There are two things you gotta do. What's best for the team in today's nfl. You gotta do. What's best with a quarterback sometimes and that was lost in translation and how aaron rodgers feels. Now he was. He was treated at how he feels. That's everything so. How do you resolve that. The green bay packers are doing everything right up to this point saying they will publicly. We want you back. We don't want we don't wanna lose you. We'll come visit you. We'll send your teammates to ya all of that stuff. This is all about a public relations campaign also about look at us. We're doing everything we possibly can to get him back. It's his decision this way. it's going to go. It's only going to get uglier from here. Kim what do you think well. I think i'm not positive. Aaron stances that he doesn't wanna play in green bay. I think aaron stances that you know and adam alluded to this earlier today. Doesn't wanna make some of the people that he's upset within green bay look any better than he's already made them look and so to me. I just look at this situation for aaron in that. He wants to win a championship. Still green bay's the best spot for that to happen. Teddy posed the question earlier saying hey. This is aaron rodgers. The kind of guy that would say. Hey i'm wrong. I'll answer it. No he's not but the issue is he doesn't have to say that i think mark murphy has to say brian good has to say it. And then i think at that point it starts to look like aaron rodgers one and as we talk about you know the money that he's missing. Keep this in context. Because sometimes i think people lose the context of how much money players have actually made terms of cash earnings for aaron rodgers. He's already made over two hundred and four million dollars right around that number playing football. You know sometimes when guys sit out in forego a half million dollar signing bonus and they've made thirty million dollars that's a much different situation than foregoing a workout bonus when you've already pocketed about two hundred and forty million dollars plan absolutely so he doesn't need but he wants shefty. Put a ribbon on this thing with. What should we be thinking about today. But tim's again the money. It's just a portion the part that these are things that he never has done before he's never not gone to the ot as he's never not gone to the mandatory minicamp. He's never felt as strong as he does right now. Whatever those feelings that's what greening when you're staying demanding trade or not one. I don't know exactly what it is other than. He's not happy with the organization doesn't want to be there now. How that's reflected in how plays out. We'll see the green bay packers. No they have a problem on their hands they're trying to make plans to try to rectify it. It's a problem. They spent all of season trying to rectify. And frankly there's nothing more important that entire organization no matter what they do during this mandatory minicamp no matter what they do the rest of the season no matter what they do before then making sure their quarterback comes back and they right. Now don't know how to do that. Exactly right so that is the situation. They are in on the first day of their minicamp. Now let's juxtapose them to the absolute opposite. Nothing could be more different than the situation. The tampa bay buccaneers arena on their first day of mandatory minicamp. Which is going on today. They of course won the super bowl last year. They of course brought back all of their starters. They of course are bringing back to celebrate and tom brady who now seems to be healthier than he was a year ago. And so right now. They're literally the living embodiment in football of columbia is rob gronkowski. The superstar tight end. Who was working on the practice field as we speak right now in tampa so. The buccaneers are back as they begin their quest to try and repeat as champions. And i do believe. I have sal paolantonio standing by live as he is covering their practice today. And let us see as we bring sal into the conversation here south from the folks. Mary a look at him look at him in the shades. Look an awfully comfortable down there in sunny florida south. What are you hearing the buccaneers as they look to get back to the super bowl here. Well michael first of all. We sent the text last night that we wanted to go live on the practice field. And i said it's from mike greenberg and get up. So can we please get an invitation to go live on the practice field and they said of course for the show. We will do that. And so here we are. This is the first mandatory minicamp and the mindset is repeat as super bowl champions and i texted bruce arians last night and i asked them. Okay all the talk is repeating a super bowl champions. What's the message to your football team. As you take the field as a mandatory minicamp and get ready to try to repeat and here is is rather salty answer to me. That team won the super bowl. This team eight don bleep. Of course he didn't say bleep. We gotta start at the basics and we've got to build now. We're waiting for tom. Brady to come out here. Quarterbacks blaine gabbert cal. Trask the rookie is out here on the field just behind my right shoulder and everybody else is here but just waiting. Tom brady to come out. he's not out here yet. That's a telltale sign that he's not going to be doing very much. But you know. Bruce arians said is going to be doing a whole lot of coaching them and that was good enough for last year as they started out of that super bowl run when brady got here to tampa absolutely outstanding let us know when things continue their and of course mike. Greenberg is also an executive in the tampa organization. Maybe that's the mike greenberg. They thought you were talking about thank you so do i still have your okay. We'll come back to that as we go a little bit later. I want to pick up on. That thought we'll also get to. Julio as we go. Does he make the titans better. Does he make them elite. What could hold them back. We'll answer all those questions and then this morning. The packers facing their worst nightmare live without aaron rodgers. What's the mood in green bay. We're going live. there is well. Our jam packed. It's got up on. Espn no matter what you want to protect. Nobody has more experience helping. 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Remember the word on him is he had some work done on his knee during the offseason surgically that bothered him through a lot of last year. Apparently they didn't let on just how much it was bothering him. And so the expectation is he should feel better healthier and stronger at the age of forty four again. That is a live picture in tampa this morning of tom brady. At the buccaneers first mandatory minicamp. And since i have this crew put together today particularly teddy. I wanna put that text backup that we just had from sao paolo antonio because tedy bruschi this is something he brought up. Chris had if we can. Let's put that back up there again. Because sal paolantonio showed us that. He texted a question. Bruce arians about what the mindset is in their camp about trying to repeat a super bowl champions this year and the response came back from bruce arians and it was an arian speak somewhat similar to what you would expect it to be but teddy. This is something you talked about. I do we have that. Are we going to get that guy. Is someone tell me if we're not okay. We're going to put that attacks back up there again. And there it is a bruce arians texting sow that he said quote. I told them that team won the super bowl. This team ain't done. Wayne started the basics and bill and tedy bruschi. I'm thinking back to a conversation that we had on this show a little while ago where you were talking about that mentality and how critical it would be so when you see that text teddy you start off at the right step up right foot because so much has been developed over the course of winning a championship in everything. Actually the entire. Nfl went through last year in terms of a season through kobe. The love the friendships. The relationships that have been forged in terms of winning a championship together. Night night you gotta sorta be a prick again so as a head coach and let them know that they haven't done anything and i think that's nba. It starts with that text. It'll start the way they treat each other because he's got to be hard. He is the most important person in terms of forming mentality to repeat again because he has to make them forget and it's hard because they're having conversation amongst themselves right there on that field as you take a knee sale avantis david given wider taken. Any man we can go back to back look brady. He looked so much better right now. They needed last year. And by the way what do you think the rings going to look like all that talk is still in your mind about getting raise or we're talking about the rings and everything it's still. Fresh areas has to make it stale over and over again and it can get redundant. It can get tiresome because as a head coach you love these guys all right. 'cause they delivered the championship. But you have to be that type of coach to let them know. They haven't done bleep yet. What we're about the way bill did that guys. Were trying to go back to back which you did on numerous occasions and actually your team did win back to back super bowl. You're the last to do it in three and four remember specifically teddy about the information. Okay here is the bella check. There's the bella check. Extreme terms of he'll he'll make you feel like you haven't even won a game. But i think all areas has to do with sort of bring that to hear because it doesn't have to be as as dramatic or over the top as bill would do which is only. He knows how to do it and he doesn't really well and it works but be as not that way so to find his way to still have that relationship and still let them know. It's all about winning the championship and how it starts is winning the division. How starts winning one game at a time. Then training camp. And then minicamp breaking it all down simply. That's with the head coach has to do. Let me bring the rest of the team back in here again. As we're looking at live pictures of tom brady and tim hasselbeck. I will come to you if i still have you with me here. And that is it feels to me like brady complain important role in that as well. It's one thing for arians to be that way and brady. Well he is. A player is also a seven time super bowl champion and so much older than the overwhelming majority of the other players. Feel like he could be a part of setting that tone as well. But that's the first thing. I was thinking about green. It's funny asked me. Because i think every coach in the history of sports it's ever come off. A championship is probably address. This team the way. Bruce arians team i in in the same vein as that texts that he sent sal powell of like. Hey that was last year this year. That's all great but the team has to receive that message. Take it seriously and so you know. I think the tone center for that is the guy that's had more success than anybody on that roster his approach to it in quite honestly and who knows how much they'll do just even in these ota's but even the fact that he's coming off of surgery and then he's got a helmet on he's even participating in individual drills right now. I think gives you a little bit of a glimpse into the relentlessness of how he approaches things. Which to your point. That is probably the most important keys like wait a second. If brady's focus is still laser sharp will then then yeah then maybe. The rest of us should follow suit. Diner receive. needs you talk to people around league about tampa and their quest to repeat what of the things they're saying to you. Yeah well can. I just actually start with some of the conversations. I've had with people in tampa. And that sentiment that bruce arians event or at least the texts that he sent us out is really where it starts because any coach player i talked to really is saying the right things in that same sense of. Yeah that was last year. This is this is the new year and talking to other teams and obviously other coaches and gm's around the league about how they see the bucks now when it comes up in conversation. Look everyone always is point to tom. Brady not his ability on the field. That that's not what i have conversations about. It's kind of assumed that he's good. You can play. We know we can what he demands. It's what he can get players to do. It's how he can get them to adapt and hold themselves accountable. The tom brady wave leading is what every head coaches searching for in their locker room. Which is why they have such a gem in their quarterback there because he has that ability to get those to follow. And it's tom. Brady still gonna be there. Yes this is gonna fall on you. Have tom brady. They will follow into his age. Forty four season chef eight greeting this team again. That brings back everybody and then some right. You don't see many super bowl teams. Go out win the super bowl and then manage to keep the entire roster intact. But that's exactly what tampa did. It didn't lose anybody during free agency. Not any notable starters it gets back. Oj howard who was injured last year. Can you imagine how much impact a player like. oj. How with his talent is upside. Could have on this offense in addition to everybody else. That's their chris. Godwin will be back. Antonio brown will be back rob gronkowski. We'll be back leonard for net. We'll be back all these players who could have gone elsewhere. Didn't and usually see super bowl teams rated and usually see the price of the players. Those teams go up and they become more valuable to other teams than they do that particular team but in this case. The buccaneers managed to keep together the entire team the entire roster the entire coaching staff. Everybody's back for another run yes. Tom should be healthier this year. Old jay how it should be back so technically with the second year in the system maybe even better than they were last year that gandhi. We're looking at live pictures. That's brady on the practice field today for the first time. The only person happy with this. I'm guessing is phil mickelson. Who would like to see him out there practicing a little golf right now. They're getting set for another match. They'll be playing against aaron rodgers and bryson shambo but again that's our coverage from tampa. We will have much more. Nfl as there are multiple teams starting their camps. Today as we go along last night felt much more like a coronation. Then a game to can anybody touch k. d. and the next jalen rose will answer that question next and he'll try to answer this one. Here we go jalen here sneaky humble of the eight remaining playoff teams which one has won the nba championship most recently. I think he's got it. I think he's got it. We'll find out next and get on. Espn do you own or rent your home sherry do and i bet it can be hard work you know it's easy bundling policies with geico geico makes it easy to bundle your homeowner's or renter's insurance along with your auto policy. It's a good thing too because you already have so much to do around your home. Go to geico dot com quote and see how much you could save. Its gyco easy visit. Geico dot com today. That's geiko dot com. We are back on. Get up with words. I've never spoken before. I think jaylen is going to get this one right. I from sneaky. Hembo of the eight remaining playoff teams jay which one has won the nba championship. Most recently. i love you him ball. You guys are killing it on the radio in the afternoon. We're gonna get unlikely champion this year. Six teams have never won the championship. The that have one did it when they had kareem abdul-jabbar and that's the bucks in the seventies and the answer to this question is early eighty philadelphia full fault. Dr j. most that is correct. I had it right. That jalen had it right the sixers and he is right. There are very few championships in the history of these teams that are in it trying to win a championship. The nets never have but if this thing continues like this you might as well give it to him now. Last night came to. Oh look at k. D. morgan honest crossing them up he continues to make place. So does kyrie irving was still in the first quarter. The nets are up ten. The nets would shoot fifty two percent from the floor for this game. He had a seventeen point after one. Oh speaking of high percentage shot lake griffin face of honest everything going the nets way they lead by twenty one a minute to play the second quarter the leader twenty two it's durant. The nets may twenty one threes in this game. Katie was four of six netflix. Twenty four halftime third quarter more of the same range. A look at this. Little nifty move. He had thirty two. Didn't play the fourth quarter fourth quarter now nets and cruise control kyrie irving would scored twenty two only. Because he didn't need to score more. The nets win it by thirty nine in a game and this that wasn't as close as the final score would indicate that's right and they won by thirty nine so jalen. I have so many questions. I kind of want to begin with the honest like this was supposed to be the bucks year can purchase was telling me last week. The bucks are going to win this series and they've been humiliated what happened. I picked the books also to win this series. And i was someone that wanted to believe that the back-to-back raining mvp who also won defensive player of the year with the addition of drew holiday middleton plan like an all star like this team was gonna be poised to go further issued. And they've done in the past and you touch don't greenie it starts with jaanus. It starts with him struggling to shoot outside of the paint. He's six thirty five in these playoffs. Outside of the pay. Six hundred thirty five. He's twenty three of forty three from the free. Throw line the game the so very tough when you can't make shots especially your best player and while we're highlighting janas ostensibly. Let me tell you what happens when the rabbie get to go if you notice. It seems like k. D. had fifty. Yesterday it seems like we have forty. You know why because there were loud. They were thunderous like that. Blake griffin dunne. And you know who's in these highlights. That's jaanus right there. Hit crossed up and one by k deep. That's jaanus the kyri is coming across. Half court. Pulling up from three that was jonathan blake griffin dunk door and that was k. d. who drive impasse jaanus. Who did the up and onder so. It's really hard to win and be confident when your best players getting towards the tea. But i must say this for the bucks dangerous. Losing they getting beat and without james harden is deflating. Because when you lose gay one it's one thing is like all right fellas respond a game to a no way. They bought the beat us without james harden especially in game two and now they lost game two no way to win winning four out of five. The nets gonna find a way to events. Okay i'm with you. I think everyone on planet earth is with. You might boot holes in your. You have to go into this thing trying so give me an adjustment. What are you doing. What is the one thing on the floor. Milwaukee has to do in game three to at least make a show of it. Janas has to make jump shots greenie like the one thing about the game is he's going to be dominated in the pain on his drives on his layups on his dunks. But when they're leaving you wide open you practice the shots. You have to make the shots from three from me. Range from the free throw line because gets the best makers in the history of the nba. Kevin durant kyrie irvings. So when you're missing shots they're going down on other egrenia boogie own an aunt and they're pulling up making shots with various degrees of difficulty but at the free throw line is struggling which also affects him mentally. It affects the rest of the team. Psychologically and also. I need to see more from chris. Middleton if particular in the first quarter he looked off balance. He was struggling to get. He was struggling to attack the basket with ferocity like normally chris. Chris middleton a slew beneath. He's the opposite of how he he gets his book within the offense and i didn't see that from him so i'm disappointed in middleton and holiday inn but again they're not just lose in their getting beat and that's two different things. All right. i mean. Do one thing for those who don't know. I was played on a basketball team. That jalen was the coach. It was a celebrity all star game one year. You coached against bill simmons. I was on your team and we won. Here's the question i. I've seen your halftime motivational speech. Gimme the motive. What is one player. Whoever the leader of the milwaukee bucks have to get up at practice in front of all of his teammates today and say that person actually got to be honest and also he has. His brother owned a team. And here's what he got to say. Hey guys we can't change anything happen in the first two games. That's on me. But you know what i'm about to do. I'm about to go out there and be a dog. I'm about to go out there. Be dominant and i'm about to dunk on everybody in the state of new york in the city of brooklyn i am not settling off and all of that. I'm just going to drive. You know what. When i'm playing deep. I'm lacking in. I'm slapping the floor. I'm getting up a katie's face and here's what you gotta do like what got lost in. Today's game is there's no physical intimidation like these guys. You can't just let them operate freely. You got upset k. D. you got upset cari you gotta have them looking at the officials. You can't just have them looking at the bucket 'cause when they doing that. K d's fifty five from the floor fifty three over ninety from the line and averaging thirty five you got to erupt these guys gotta be physical with these guys and you gotta play like this means everything. I resigned for reason. I'm dedicated to you guys. I resigned in the off season. Because i'm dedicated to you guys and i'm gonna show y'all in game three how dominant. I'm about to be huge game. Jaanus they don't get swept they do win game three okay areas. Jalen rose got the trivia right today and his feeling good. We'll see jalen jacoby later today. Thank you j. Always outstanding and again. This is a tough warning in the state of wisconsin. Because we got that last night and now the packers around the practice field and aaron rodgers isn't the show today with adam. Schefter telling us that. Rogers is not expected to be minicamp at all. It is the first time in his career that he escaped the mandatory minicamp. So he's not there but our reporter rob demovsky is the mood. at packers. camp given the specter of aaron rodgers. Absence greenie status quo. Because no one not even the players. Not the coach. Not the front office expected. Aaron rodgers be here for this camp. It's been the same thing all offseason. But there is some anticipation and some excitement from this regard. It's for jordan love and not just because he's gonna continue being. Qb one but it said he finally gets the chance to work with his top receivers. As we've talked about before. Greenie davante adams allen lazard marquez valdes scantling and all the other returning receivers last year have been absent from the off season program and now they're here so it's the chance for us all and more importantly for the packers to evaluate. How love looks with those top receivers because before today he's really been throwing. A bunch of undrafted rookies a bunch of street free agents and guys that have never really performed in an nfl regular season game right so so there. It is the summer of love for them. But as far as aaron rodgers it continues to be the opposite in you heard shefty at the beginning of our show today saying that the mood from what he understands is that is strong as hell is the way. Aaron rodgers resolved has been described as of today. So what does that mean. What is the organization's expectation about where this goes from here. Look they know how stubborn he is. And they know that there's probably not an end in sight right now between either doesn't have to be because really it's june eighth it's minicamp. There's no deadlines per se for them to get something done to resolve anything but come late july early august when training camp begins then the game of chicken becomes real and at this point from what i've told been told rogers is still dug in and is not intent on coming back here. What changes between now and then well. That's the question that's going to hang over lambofield and the packers practice field from now until he shows up ever so be watching that practice. Today you'll let us know how things go as far as jordan love and the receivers and everything else. Thank you rob. Demovsky live in green bay crew was with us this morning here. And we're talking football and tim hasselbeck. I want to start with you on that because you were making the point this morning that things start to change a little bit for rodgers now and then they'll start to change in a big way in july when over sudden the receivers are there and everyone is working but him they've maybe that starts to change the mentality pick up. That thought. i thought it was interesting. Basically you start to feel isolated at that point. You know. Aaron rodgers for all the kind of disagreement. They may have with the front office or people on the coaching staff. Or whoever maybe he is upset with your teammates and you know he's had receivers not show up to voluntary work Standing arm in arm with him but now it doesn't make sense for them to sit out you know Mandatory minicamp where they get five so now errands by himself and so now. I think that you can start to feel more and more isolated from the team and probably more and more upset about the situation. So i do think that this is you know. We're we're heading to a time. Where is probably going to get uglier. We're going to hear more about how great jordan loves doing. We're gonna do all of that. Because it june and then think once we get into training camp it's going to heat up And then. I think that you know know aaron. It's gonna feel more intense. And so i think good listen. I still think there's a resolution to all of this but i think it's gonna get worse before it gets better. It's interesting because you know we say that teddy that rogers is because feel isolated but his version of isolated is in hawaii with failing woodley and miles teller and it's very different than a lot of people's version of being isolated. So tedy bruschi. What do you think. Yeah but deep down. He's still a football player. And tim's exactly right when he talks about that. And i i really believe the longer. This goes if the green bay packers are willing to play hardball advantaged packers because when you're talking other teams. They're waiting around and waiting around. It's like well. I don't want aaron when it's a week before the season i mean because he hasn't had any chance to work with our team and it looks like the green bay. Packers are hell bent on that traded him. So we gotta move on and then errands gonna realize this. And so i mean if they wanna play hardball. It's gotta be. They got the packers have to dig their heels in. Because i'm as a as a player in i'm seeing. They want to play hardball. I'm thinking this will do whatever you got to do. Because of aaron comes in here a week before training camp he'll step in like he never left and he'll he'll be with this offense. So do what you can do because winning the championship really isn't going to happen with the young quarterback that you're developing right now so go ahead and play hard ball but do it well and do like immediate diana. What do you have your eye on. I'm listening to to both tiven. Teddy make fantastic points and they sound like gm's in the nfl who i've had conversations with about the packer situation. So you guys. If this thing doesn't work out you should run a front office because this is how being right now and mike it so funny to me too because i get to come on the show with you talk about the situation and the pendulum swinging the other way. We were on the show. Two months ago going aaron's doing the right thing here. He deserves better. They need a trade them and look at us now. We're all saying the same thing which is packers got the leverage they can just sit back maybe that sit back calmly with they can make it put it on air to make the call what he wants to do because either way we look at it this way if they train them. They don't have them if he sits out next year. They don't have them make aaron. Make the move. And if that's what they decide to do that could work out for them. They may be able to treat them eventually next season. Either way the packers were looking at this as at right now at this point. They're still going to do everything they can to try to make this work and there's a little hope they're super quickly. Tim hasselbeck how much money did you say. He's in his career actual dollars two hundred and forty million dollars just playing football. That's not draining right for two hundred and forty million dollars. You have more leverage than most people. I get the packers have more money. But he's got enough at least for the moment. let's take a break on. That thought. let me remind everybody. Also that a huge weekend is on the way. How about this lineup. We got soccer. We got the euro matchup between turkey and italy coming up on espn than belgium in russia. Saturday on abc. Then game three other west. Semifinals the clippers and jazz saturday night and we cap saturday with ufc to sixty three on espn plus pay per view. Oh what a week in the meantime as we continue the big questions fly around that man. Julio jones does he take tennessee from one place to another. It is that plays the super bowl. We'll answer that question next. You're watching get up on. Espn while now sidelines. The emmy and peabody award winning show tackles the most important issues in sports history time. What college athletics is going to look like taking you. Beyond the headlines to every women's sport is your important but you're not as important as the menstrual with perspective from the best analysts in the business now for the first time the dallas cowboys have black quarterback who is one hundred percent face outside the lights every saturday at nine. am eastern on espn. We're back on a crazy morning. And re we recap the big news over the weekend. The titans trading pair draft picks to the falcons for julio jones will play this season at thirty two and it's coming up a year in which he played only nine games fewest twenty thirteen. And so that begs really. What is the big question. Which is that's an enormous man. It is an enormous name. He is going to the hall of fame someday. But just how impactful is this. Move for this team. That feels like the question. And so diana you broke the story over the weekend. What was the sense. You're getting from people you talked to. About what impact. Julio jones has on the titans and the totality of the afc playoff picture. Look john robinson. The gm was very focused on getting this done. There were a lot of teams involved. There were having conversations with the falcons over the last week or so. It's starting to heat up over the weekend with the titan state. Focus in pretty much do whatever they could make. Julio could land on their team in a lot of the reasoning is going back to that playoff game against the ravens when the ravens defensive phenomenal job slowing derrick henry down. Ag brown was shut down and really the titans had no options for davis was injured and they basically just had to rely on some backup receiver. So here they are now. They have added weapon on their team. Jones who also by the way is expected to attend mini camp next week for the first seen him in titans uniform. I am curious what number he's gonna wear by the way because we know that. Ag brown wears eleven eleven in atlanta will. Maybe we're eight like he did it. Alabama but overall the feeling from tennessee from talking to everyone there is there nothing but excited about having an ad weapon at this point. So here's what i will say. Teddy you tell me what you think. If julio jones's healthy and that's a huge if we mentioned the only played nine games last year he is at that point in his career. Where starting every now and again to see the body breaking down. But if he's healthy with him and brown and derrick henry and ryan tannehill. There's no reason that offense shouldn't be as good as any in the afc and they are at absolute legit super bowl. Contender teddy might not. I don't think you're nuts. They're not gonna be the offense that you know scores thirty forty points a game. They're going to be the more of the offerings. That wants to bludgeon you. And it will still start with derrick henry and it'll be a physical offense but julio jones is a physical receiver and in those situations diana's talking about in those big games. Derrick henry is not gonna win for two hundred yards every game. There's going to be critical third and seven third meets where it's going to be like okay. They're doubling aj. Julio you gotta win that's it tanny hills going to throw it up and it's going to be either. He catches it or he doesn't in either. He's healthy or not so that's what he can be. That's what this offense can be. Their attitude will not change. they just have another gamer. That's tough and physical that can sort of complement who they are already. But on a one game situation then versus the chiefs lately year. Who knows what the weather's like. I think they have the style that can beat the kansas city chiefs. If a playoff playoff spot or a sort of advancing to a championship game is on the line. I agree styles. Make fights and that style is a problem tim hasselbeck. Why are you so skeptical. I think the skepticism comes in that you know the role is going to be different. And i've seen it before you guys go win. There used to be a number one guy and they go to a different scenario. It's hard to take a back seat. It's almost like playing a different game. And so now you have a player. And julio jones who's average throughout his career nine point eight targets per game that is the most in nfl history so he has been thrown to per-game aces more than any player. That's ever played wide receiver in the nfl before now. He's going to go to a team. That has a defensive end playing tailback that they love hand in the football and up and coming wide receiver. Who is absolutely amazing. Is one of the rising stars in national football league. Who's the number one. And so when you look at it and you say okay. The number one on the team a year ago. Hundred and six targets. What is this going to feel. Like for julio to be a guy that's listen some games. Maybe he doesn't get targeted. I was saying earlier. you know. Maybe he gets three balls thrown his way and has one catch. Like how is that. Gonna sit for a guy that's used to see in ten balls thrown his way every single game. We'll find it because that's all dribble can manage that personality and that's the head coach and teddy your old teammate. But i wanted to wrap it up with one very interesting thing today. Guys you'll find this fascinating. I was listening as we were doing. Our microphone checks earlier this morning. And diana rossini and adam schefter were having a conversation and i overheard something i am going to share diana. Where were you when you broke this news over the weekend. Okay so. I'm really trying to step away from the stigma that i'm like the typical italian new jersey girl that just hangs out at the jersey shore but i was in atlantic city for a bachelor party that i'm way too old to attend but was for my sister-in-law so i had to go and i reached out to a couple sources before i left for the trip and said look. This is a little unprofessional. But i just need you. To be honest here. I have to go to this bachelorette party. I'm not going to be present on my phone. Is this whole thing going down. Everyone said the same thing. Go half fun. It ain't going down this weekend. Well at the roulette table. On saturday night around eleven pm and i hit on black eleven and i look at my sister karen and i go. That's julio something's up. I'm a witch and i knew something was up but i reached out to a call. They said get ready. This thing is going down in the morning. And i when i wound up talking to schefter. He had no idea. I didn't want l. schefter. I was at atlantic city This is all happening. Because i wanted to be like a pro teddy. You know wall chapters at his office working with me and we were able to share information and pulled the trigger so this is the first time in my life. I've ever been into casino breaking a pretty big story. What did he say on. Black eleven bucks. The best part is my sister. Karen says come on. let's go. We're going because i have to call people we're not going. You gotta play. You gotta play vague to win big. We got to put more money down but it was probably smart. I walked away. Get some cash in my pocket. Teddy go read party in atlantic city diana. Rossini breaks the big story of the football month. Well done we got a lot more to do here. And then of course. Don't forget i take comes next. Kevin durant and the net so they too good for janas in the box. just too bad stephen. A maximum molly debate that and more. It's first take and their five minutes away on. Espn do own or rent your home. Sure you do. Fortunately geico makes it easy to bundle your home and car insurance. It's a good thing too. Because having a home is hard work go to geico dot com. Get a quote and see how much you could save. Geico dot com easy.

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"Southern colorado never stops neither do we. This is low code now presented by the shanin nation-states. Here's tanner swint. Welcome in noko now here on this thursday morning. Thanks for being with us. That was fun. I our thanks to claire. Carter for stopping by with degree country club golf course of the month there so check them out as well. Really see dot org Let's see here okay. Our poll question is up on our facebook. Page are excessive the flare hair. Poll question fellows If you're looking for that perfect gift for your lady ladies out there if you're looking for some of those the summer season fashion. You know because things apparently fashion changes. I don i dress. I dress like a forty five year old man every day of the week but If you're looking for for the summer fashion it's accessories little flare an hair. Linda winter has been doing this. She knows how to how to match things. And all this crazy stuff and all you do is check her out. 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Starting first with the denver nuggets they are forty four and twenty two on the year now after he down at win over the new york knicks last night. One in which in the first quarter the new york knicks is the whole team all five of them scored twelve points nicole yokich. Just one man wanted for the denver. Nuggets scored twenty four. He outscore the new york knicks by twelve himself. The knicks going into this game was third world. Thirty seven twenty eight nine games over five hundred thirty solid team but yolk just went off in that first quarter. The nuggets had a thirty four to twelve lead after one and they just put it on cruise from there on out. They hang on to win one not hang on to win. They win one thirteen to ninety seven. let's see here nicoli yokich For the denver nuggets thirty two points twelve rebounds six assists michael porter. Jr. had a great game. Do you know the points were necessarily. They're seventeen still pretty good Pretty good output. Seventeen points six rebounds three assists erik gordon. Zero points buddy at five rebounds and assists as well Paul millsap who's in the starting lineup. Six points but how about this guy. He is quickly turning into one of my favorites. Falko compa zo sixteen points. Five steals nine rebounds four assists two blocks like this guy was all over the place last night and he helps carry the denver nuggets to a victory One other guy. I have i have to mention. Is austin rivers the the guard that the the nuggets picked up on a couple of ten day contracts twenty five points three rebounds three assists three steals for austin rivers in two thousand eight minutes coming off the bench. It's it's been fun watching this team play and the way that they piece it together without jamal murray obviously thirty two points from nicola yokich is is a great way. I mean he could. He could have easily gone for fifty last night. He have gone for fifty plus score. Twenty four in the first quarter. Yeah you can go for fifty but you know he kind of just those throws on cruise control got the victory. Get other guys involved. You know he got to the free throw line a lot. Hope for fifteen from the free throw line for the joker last night. It was something to watch this. This guy is phenomenal but the So let's take a look at the standings down as the. There's a couple of big games to note in the nba in the association tonight as it sits now. The denver nuggets are in the number three spot. The phoenix suns in the number two spot. They're only the nuggets are only three games back of the sons who got wallops last night. So now what can the nuggets mega. They still have utah. Four games back of utah. We need some people lose some games it tonight. The game really. That i've got my eye on is at eight o'clock on tnt. It's a battle for los angeles as the lakers and the clippers Do battle right now. And i look i mean. Take your pick on who you want to lose. Because it's the clippers lose. Okay it's it's probably best tonight for nuggets fans in just my opinion to be cheering for the los angeles lakers. And i hate to say that. But at the lakers wind clippers. Lose you distance yourself. A little bit and lakers right. Now in the sixth spot will jump up to the number five spot ahead of the dallas mavericks and then that would set up a number three versus number six between denver and dallas. But i don't know man it's going to. It's going to be so complicated trying to figure out all of this stuff gonna be crazy. Let's go to the ice shall we. The colorado avalanche. We're looking for their fourth straight win against the san jose chartres. But they didn't get it. They had a two zero lead over the san jose sharks in the second period and they blow that to lead and lose three two to san jose. Finally finally breaks through an end. The avs three game winning streak. Well it gets tough to beat a team ford four four games in a row but yet the avs looked like they could absolutely do it now. Thirty four and thirteen on the four points back from vegas in that west western division seething and close the gap on that. They're back in action against the la kings la kings tomorrow at eight o'clock so late one there the colorado rockies If they would start scoring an spreading out a little bit more. I guess it might help a little bit. But i suppose you don't care as long as you're getting wins in lasts The last two games. They've had they've gotten wins. It's just been fascinating to watch him do it. John gray gets the win the rockies go down to zero the put up another six spot in the bottom of the fourth inning. Six runs in the bottom of the fourth. Okay well that's pretty good. Start six to well then the giants tack on two more in the seventh at six forty to get a little nervous. They tack on another one in the top of the ninth so at six five and the rockies hold on move their twelve and nineteen on the year one two out of the last three. They take the series from the giants. But this two games that are also where they've had six runs up in one inning and not a whole lot else so. This is a streaky team. But when they hit. I mean they can. They can put up big big numbers. It was It was interesting for a fourth inning. They score all those. So they got the the basis Bases loaded charlie blackmon singles to senator garrett hamson trevor stories. Scores brand with man moves after third. Then they get the bases loaded again. They draw walk. Didn't john gray singles the center. He gets an rbi tapioca singles to center. It was just kinda those a little bit of a small ball game and the colorado rockies again twelve and nineteen but they've taken two or three from the giants john gray. How about this four two. On the year six innings pitched to earn runs eight strikeouts for the wolf of blake street in the colorado rockies They advance And take series from the giants. It was a weird series high-scoring series. But now you turn your attention to tomorrow at six fifteen take on the saint louis cardinals and you gotta go. See your ex girlfriend. You're going to bump into her. You're going to bump into your ex girlfriend at the ballpark tomorrow. As they take on nolan air not oh and his new team the saint louis cardinals Fascinating i'm intrigued to see what happens here boston. Commerce going for the iraqis as well. That's who got in return for her for no one air not oh uh to for two and three on the air. Five point nine. Era not great. They're going to against jack flirty. Five and on the year for thirty nolan. Aaron auto in the saint. Louis cardinals eighteen thirteen on the year. Nolan's leading the team in. Rbi's with twenty two batting to seventy seven so he hasn't been spectacular by any measure. But it's going to be it's going to be. I'll be honest. I i don't i haven't watched a game That saint louis has been involved in. Because i i can't bring myself to do it ryan i can't bring myself to do it Want to touch on this again. And hey maybe. I'm just fueling a putting some fuel on the fire but why not. Everybody else is talking about it. I'd like to as well. Aaron rodgers kuti becoming to denver. One report wonder part. That said well what it would take for. The broncos is teddy bridgewater in three first round picks signed deal. Do it right now. Just get it done but now in other reports has john kuhn. Who is a longtime teammate. Of aaron rodgers says that aaron rodgers is conflicted conflict about future with green bay. This article by rob demovsky out of the espn. If anyone understands what aaron rodgers is thinking as he weighs his nfl futures. It might be former green bay. Packers fullback john. Kuhn coon says he has talked with rogers since the news broke last thursday during an appearance wednesday night on. Cbs radio kuhn said he wouldn't disclose the exact details of their conversation. But painted a picture of a quarterback who is evaluating all aspects of the situation and hasn't made up his mind for certain everybody's weighing in on this now right. You're seeing john kuhn he's brett. Farve weighed in on it. You know davante adams is now putting tweets out there devante wide receiver for the green bay packers since he got appreciate what you got while you got it. He also posted a picture of a goat on the edge of a cliff. Some some weird stuff but Now john kuhn jumping in here prefaces gut tells me rogers down the packers bring him to denver baby. I will be the happiest dude. Ever aaron rodgers somehow lands in denver. I don't know if it's going to happen but it would be phenomenal. If does last thing here in the sports world you heard actually heard clear. Carter mentioned it the hockey match last night between the capitals and the rangers. As soon as the puck was dropped three fights broke out. it was phenomenal. Three fights break out and one sec in. That's my type of hockey. The amount of The amount of penalty minutes that were wrapped up in that game. It's crazy. who was an insane amount. So this is Over the tom wilson controversy. That happened washington four. Tom wilson injured new york star. Our team panera. In earlier this week the same building there were six separate fights to start the game. Madison square garden including a line brawl one second after the opening faceoff the capitalist defeated the rangers four to two in a game that ended up with a hundred and forty one penalty minutes fight goodness. That's what i'm talking about. Some more of those. They'll do for the sports world. I don't think i'm gonna watch the rockies. Play the cardinals. I want to but i don't i want to but i'm scared. What if nolan just comes out like goes four four inches blows up austin gombar and i'm going to be so sad if you are planning on watching it the best way to watch it. You're probably gonna be sad if you're watching a rockies game anyways watch it at the tavern at saint michael's square Were you can You can at least enjoy a beverage. Integrate agreed food selection as well had the tavern at saint michel square. While you're doing it they've got trivia night Starting up on sunday and the tavern is currently hiring. If you're a waiter or waitress out there looking To join the staff or possibly Or possibly washing dishes. The terrorists square is hiring call and let them know you heard about emma on. Kfi am ten twenty time. Let's take a break. We'll get an update on the india situation when we come back on the other side it's now northern dakota's voice thirteen ten kfi k. Shan northern colorado's voice is thirteen ten. 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So we talked about the india crisis. that was going on with the cove nineteen Situation the was getting scary right and we said that we need to at least pay a little bit of attention to this and keep note. So that's what i'm gonna do here. Ap news saying india's government eases hospital oxygen shortage as demand jumps And something had to happen. Something absolutely had to happen and it sounds like their government is stepping in doing it so under order by the supreme core india's government agreed on thursday to read more medical oxygen to hospitals in the capital potentially easing a two week old shortage that worsened the country's exploding coronavirus crisis. So yeah better late than never. I suppose the way look at it. Government officials also denied reports that they have been slow in this distributing lifesaving supplies donated from a The government raise the oxygen supply to seven hundred and thirty tonnes from four hundred ninety tons per day in new delhi as ordered by the supreme court the court intervene after twelve covid nineteen patients including a senior doctor. Died at new delhi's baltra hospital when it ran out of medical oxygen for eighty minutes last week and we get back to vaccine distribution here and the question still has to remain. We're gonna we're going to start over producing this vaccine and in fact we're getting close to it now and what i mean by. That is that we're going over. Produce to the point where the were the amount of vaccine that we have compared to the amount of people who wanted is not going to be proportionate so what are we gonna do with that. I know we've got these contracts in place with companies like fight Pfizer johnson jocks johnson and johnson. The moderna vaccine all these other contract place but at what point do you say you know what. Go ahead and send that goods and and the other thing too. And this was this was brought up to me By texture last week. Did i didn't get a chance to talk about. I don't know what. India stance on that is on. Taking the vaccine on a lot of different religions have different. Outlooks on that right. And and i'm not going to even sit here and claim to know the what the different religions say about vaccines and how they feel about him. But that s come into count but why not get it over there. Why not use the excess vaccines that we have here. In india on wednesday night eleven other covid nineteen patients died when pressured and oxygen line drops suddenly at a government medical college hospital in southern india. Possibly because of a faulty valve the times of india newspaper reported. This isn't these are these. Are kobe deaths right. I mean these are going to count in the covid. Nineteen death count but who knows if they would've died if there had been proper oxygen hospital authorities so they repaired the oxygen line last week but the consumption of oxygen had doubled since then. The number of new cases new confirmed cases in india on thursday. Ready for this number breached. Four hundred thousand for the second time since the devastating surge began last month. The four hundred twelve thousand two hundred sixty two new cases pushed the country's official tally to more than twenty one million. So i've been talk. I've talked about cove. Nineteen at great lakes. I think a lot of people know how i feel about this and and how things were handled in our country our medical system does it have its flaws is their healthcare field have flaws yet does but we're a hell of a lot better off than than other countries and so the cove nineteen viruses. Seriously i can be well how so well when you don't have the proper care to take care of the people who get it because that the older generation obviously it's that older demographic it's going to hit hard but when we have people dying because of lack of oxygen in different countries. There's stuff that can be done about that. The health ministry in india also reported Four thousand deaths in the past twenty four hours bringing the total to two hundred and thirty thousand one hundred sixty eight deaths experts. Believe both figures are an undercount. Most hospitals in india don't have their own plants that generate oxygen for patients as a result hospitals typically typically rely on liquid oxygen which can be stored in cylinders and transported and tank trucks but amid the virus surge supplies in hard hit places. Such as new delhi have run critically short. So it's causing chaos and it's still not done yet but this upping of the oxygen that that these hospitals are going to receive. He can help it. it can help it. Let us know your thoughts. A texan of the kkk. Tech's nights seven zero four seven eight one three zero one. Just got this tax here texture. Just got this now. Saying when i was talking about the aaron rodgers say that i think is going to be three three number ones and and bridgewater. He said he's he's saying this is the big dog. Self-proclaimed proclaimed i assume Gonna take more than three ones to twos entertainer sudden. That's a hall i. I'm fine with it. i'm still fine with it. I i don't. I don't know if that's going to be if it's gonna take that much. That's a lot for for guided. That's old that doesn't know if he wants to play. Football and green bay knows that in green bay knows now that i mean he they could just lose him he could just retired and say i'm done so i think he's got green bay's kind of between a rock and a hard place they could trade him and get three first rounders and teddy bridgewater. Maybe second or something like that and call it happy but if they say no you know if they know that and i say that's what it takes in denver walks on the table. Then they're going to lose aaron rodgers to jeopardy ten thirty three time. Let's let's go out and take a break when we come back on the other side at believe that we will have mike morris without equation specialists joining us in just a couple of minutes But i get to the bottom of the hour news and weather center. What's happening in your own backyard. Listen to no co- now with tanner's swint a northern colorado's voice thirteen ten kfi k. A. long ten thirty eight. Feel like i've been stood up. Morris tom just kidding things happened more busy man So we'll try and get caught up with him again Soon so i was mentioning. Are funny friday coming up tomorrow now. Being presented by the comedy fort in fort collins. I met with david Yesterday was talking with them and it. It's awesome to see what they're doing so and and i need to. I need to verify this. But i have been told that that boulder county is gonna lift restrictions on the sixteenth. Say i need to. I need to triple check this. But this is what i've been told so. I would imagine things were kind of going to start opening up as well Noko now presented by the j nine agencies getting thoughts on what we're talking about feel free to reach out on our 'tatanka girl tech sign and nine seven zero four seven eight one three zero one nine seven zero four seven eight thirteen o one text. Kfi that number newbie subscribed and ready to go. Florida governor signs. gop voting law critics call quote unquote un-american. The isn't a. That's like the worst thing that you can tell politician when they signed something into sign a bill or something passes pass a law while that's just on american. That's on american at bullseyes. Just throw it at each other and neither of them know how to define what something american is. Florida governor ron desantis signed a sweeping elections bill into law thursday that he and other republicans said would place guardrails against fraud even as they acknowledged there were no serious signs of voting irregularities last november. Okay see this is what when you say when people say. There's no such thing as unbiased. Her nose an yes. No such thing as unbiased there right because there is no such thing as unbiased now. This doesn't this first glance. It doesn't seem like a big deal right when he say That he and other republicans said replace guardrails against fraud even as they acknowledged there were no serious signs of voting irregularities last november. Obviously there's a little bit of bias or talking about the the you have to throw that in there the even have to make mention of it shows something because laws get passed all the time. Well we're going to raise the tax rate even though there was no serious signs of anybody wanting that we're gonna we're gonna make you pay for this even though there's no serious things are preemptive their preemptive to make sure that this doesn't happen and with increased scrutiny on all voting and in an increase in in lack of trust in our voting system. Why wouldn't you take steps. Democrats and voter rights rights advocates said. The partisan move will make it harder for some voters to cast ballots. The republican governor signed the freshly pass legislation ahead of his impending announcement that he'll run for re-election in the nation's largest battleground states aiming for a broad impact on donald trump's party base he staged the signing on a live broadcast of fox and friends thursday morning flanked by a small group of gop. Legislators in palm beach county other media organisations. Were shut out to sanchez in the new law so the new law puts forward ahead of the curve and preventing any potential fraud. Right now i have what we think is the strongest election integrity measures in the country. The governor said he sent it. we're also bound a banning ballot harvesting. We're not going to let political operatives go and get satchels votes in dump them in some dropbox republicans have previously said they know of so they know of no such problems. In florida. in elections as supervisors across the state did not ask for any of the changes warning that some of the new rules may prove cumbersome and expensive tamp lament. Do i think that part of this could be to try the governor getting ready to re run for election. Yeah i do so what politics is all about baby trying to get position yourself where you're going to give yourself the best position to win and what's been a hot topic. It's been voter fraud and election fraud so with that being said Yeah i can see how you can try and paint this and say well. This is just purely a political move but for those reasons that i just mentioned previously saying look. There's no trust in any of the elections right now at least from part of part of the country. Let's do what we can to try and change that. Let's change the narrative. Let's let's preemptively get tighter on some of these things. Let's ensure that next year or whenever next election is that we won't have these issues that these other states did that. We already had the confidence built in to our election system. Let's set it up that way. The legislation has a deliberate and disproportionate impact on elderly voters voters with disabilities students and communities of color. Why how how. I hate when somebody says this and then they don't say how it's despicable attempt by one party rule legislature to choose who can vote in our state and who cannot. It's undemocratic unconstitutional and un-american. You're going to throw that out there. Patricia brigham president of the league of women voters of florida. You're throwing that out there. Say why if you're right prove it don't just say it's not a racist. He hates people stop. Nothing gets me fired up then throwing out accusations with no base or at least no argument behind him ryan says a lot of dump things. He argues them. Well i'll listen to him. He brings points behind. I feel like i do the same thing. Bring why don't just throw something and hope it sticks. This is the rhetoric that gets us into what we had on january. Sixth primary six. Who's an insurrection of our capital. This is the rhetoric that leads to that. The league joined the black voters matter. Fund the florida alliance for retired americans and others in a sailing. The new law in a federal lawsuit filed minutes after the signing. Also when it says it's got a deliberate disproportionate impact on elderly voters. Isn't that all that lives in florida. It's just a bunch of old people down there trying to retire several lawsuit by the naacp in common causal edges to the new law makes it more difficult for people who are black latino or disabled the vote. Let's hope they have an argument here. For far too long florida's lawmakers and elected officials have created a vast array of hurdles. That have made it more difficult for these. And other voters to make their voices heard here to improve their. Unfortunately i didn't either. I'm here listenable sites. They're just not saying democratic representive. Charlie crist a former florida governor who announced his challenge of santa's this week tweeted. This is the difference between Governor rhonda santa's in me. He locks out the public and caters to fox news. When i was governor everyone was invited in democrats republicans and independents and when of governor again this will be a florida for all. There's still no the still no saying as to why it did why. Why is this racist. Because that's what they're saying without saying it's racist they're saying that you are purposely not allowing black people to vote. That's racism so without calling racist. They're they're calling. It raises some of the changes. In florida's election rules contained similar provisions. Democrats acknowledged that the florida law won't be as draconian as the one recently adopted by its neighbor to the north talking about georgia so the georgia law requires a photo. Id ordered vote absentee by mail after more than one point. Three million georgia voters use that option during the covid nineteen pandemic. it also cuts the time. People have to request an absentee ballot in limits were ballot drop boxes can be placed and when they can be accessed. The only thing that don't necessarily agree with there is the ballot boxes. If i've got to have a photo. Id to get on a plane to rent a car to buy alcohol to do any of that. Why wouldn't i have to have a voter. Id to help prove that. I'm a part of a country that allows me to make huge decisions. What we do when we put our ballot in there is critically important. Why would you not have to provide proof of who you are. Why would you not in. How can that be deemed racist. How can that be deemed racist. The gop controlled full Ford legislature passed a law without a single democratic vote even as florida. Republicans have held their state as a model for conducting elections. Disconnect has confounded democrats voter rights groups and statewide election officials. Who see no need for the changes saying if it's not broke don't fix it but obviously the trust is broke in what we're do would you. I feel pretty confident. That colorado's voting. You know Legislate i feel like colorado runs a good election Let's see here. I got a text your hair. How janury be considered an insurrection when those folks were pretty much invited in and they were unarmed with one woman being shot. But nobody wants to talk about that insurrection. Act of instance of of revolting against civil authority or an established government. There is no revolt. A civil play on words janury. So who were. They invited in by what i wanna know you. Are you saying that. That's so what's your argument there. Who are you saying invited demand. Also i think that there was bigger steps that we're going to be made if things if actions were taken. They were actively seeking out nancy. Pelosi what will what would have happened. If they had found her what would have been done to her just because he got stopped at on the you could frame it as not being an insurrection necessarily think that they were leading. Either as we saw was Cops die that day but that that are you came off of and and where he's bringing that up from is when i said that that's the type of rhetoric that leads something like that and it does. It requires that voter making changes talking about the florida. Florida voting laws changing requires that a voter. Making changes to registration. Data provide an identifying number. Possibly a driver's license number or partial social security number. None of this sounds out of out of the ordinary. You have to have your. Id for everything you have to prove who you are for everything. Why would that not be the same devote. That's not racist. That's being thorough. Ten fifty one the time. Let's let's step aside when we come back on the other side. We will wrap up this edition of noko now here on northern carlos voice thirteen ten. Kfi k will be right back the power trip weekdays at eleven thirteen ten kfi k coast billionaire new house called desert pederick clear real estate. Just make sure you don't have neighbors like this guy. Let's get to the headline a michigan. Man builds a poop wall after dispute with neighbor. Again when you're talking with desert pedder make sure that you don't have a neighbor that's going to build a poop wall. A man has reportedly retaliated against the neighbor with cow dung a small michigan. Wait lambeth the neighbor who claims to two hundred and fifty foot wall of manure was erected following a property line dispute. He had with a fellow former last year according to fox news. The unusual dividers separates the two properties Civil township situated and say. Wash two new county michigan. that's fantastic. it's it's not that. I mean it's not that big of a wall but it's long two hundred fifty feet. Aside from serving physical divider lamb. Barton is tennis. Told fox to the manure wall comes with the powerful stench. That's crazy how that Crazy how that worked the farmer who built the wall whose identity has remained anonymous denied. The organic structure is a poop wall. He said it's compost fit. Well it's it's crazy you can make those arguments is it. A poop wallers at aecom food compost fence. And are they the same things. That's the headline. That caught my eye coming up today. A quick programming change here. We've got The power trip coming up from eleven to twelve no whole show today They will be back at it tomorrow. Did we have our first baseball action today. Three thirty. That's the hikes as hardware pre-game show with clark johnson and bruce stay ahead of eaten reds and the brush beat diggers doing battle this afternoon. Tomorrow folks. I'm gonna have a shot for you to win two tickets to the comedy for for funny friday. So be listening tomorrow will be Make sure to check out. Our facebook page as well on on at nocona on facebook takes clear. Carter therapy four by four. Vip guests clerk carter with really country club. Give them call. Just take a tour. No you heard about him on camp k. Go take tour. I bet you a membership for ryan. kelly. I'm tanner swint. Go build a wall in between right. And i just compost fence ryan. Come out tomorrow. We'll talk to you on kona on northern colorado's voice thirteen ten kfi see.

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