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"rinella" Discussed on The Blog of Author Tim Ferriss
"What they regard as kind of like the most magical place on the planet and the lower end of this river. I've been blows my mind. And they have this attitude like you have seen shit but you've got to have about three three week trip to get up because you got a portage around all these waterfalls. I don't have a concrete plan yet. But at whatever point in life that you sort of like approach retirement but you still have your physical capabilities. I wanna go up that damn river until it's a trickle. Like ideally i'd go with my brothers i'm i'll river sedan bad i think about all the time to the bidder and said so we're comes out of iraq and like that's my thing that i wanna do and he's got to live off fish when they're traveling to and i like fish. It's a win win. Steve always always good time. And you wanna wanna get out into the wilderness asep actually to do a fair amount of prep beforehand. Some not just yet another idiot wandering out with with no plan no contingencies no nothing and excited about the book. I'm really thrilled that you're able to carve out some time today. Is there anything else. You'd like to say complaints. Comments requests for the audience closing inspirational quotes. Anything at all before we bring this to a close at the top of everest. It's marine limestone. Thank you very much i got. I got you covered. Stephen brunell folks. The meat eater dot com at mediator on instagram. At stephen rinella with a stephen r i n e l the new book is the media guide to wilderness skills and survival. I will also linked to everything. We've discussed in the show notes at tim's blog ford slash. Podcast until next time thanks. Hey guys this is tim again. Just a few more things before. Take off number one. This is five bullet friday. Do you want to get a short email from me. Would you enjoy getting a short email from me. 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"rinella" Discussed on The Blog of Author Tim Ferriss
"Lows in girls. Ladies and germs. This is tim ferriss. Welcome to another episode of the tim. Ferriss show i'm going to keep my usual preamble short. I want to get to the meat and potatoes. This conversation with stephen rinella instagram at meat eater at stephen rinella he is the host of the net flicks original series meat eater and the meat eater. Podcast he's also the author of seven books dealing with wildlife conservation hunting fishing and wild foods including the meat eater guide to wilderness skills and survival. Which is his newest. And you can find it now on the web you can find all things even at the meat eater dot com and then on facebook. Here is stephen. Rinella that v. Stephen rinella r. i n e l l a meat eater steve. Welcome back to the show. Thank you for having me on. I appreciate it man. I have so many questions for you in part because you are not just an expert in survival wilderness skills but you actually practice and showcase this on a regular basis. So you're not describing in your books or on television. Some type of fetishizes romanticized version of survival. Which i think is highly highly common. These days suppressed. We could start with just survival. Fantasy versus survival. Reality a leave it broad on purpose. But where should we start in terms of discussing the common misconceptions of survival or portrayals of survival versus the realities. Yeah i think you set it up as a sort of a dichotomy or like a two mindsets. One is the impulse to run away from the woods. That it's this bad place you found yourself stuck in and you need to get out as quickly as possible for for something terrible happens to the other is and it's it's sort of mindset and it kind of captures. The ethos of our new book is that it's a place worth running toward the outdoors. Nature wilderness is a place we want to be. It's fun to be there and a few skill set and knowledge base helps you do it fairly risk free or at least having a good sense of what the actual risks are do it safely risk-free enjoy it for you. Enjoy it for your family so you might imagine like a lot of survival. Materials is key like you said is is this fantasy thing. There's this fixation on drinking year piss which is really really like it's nonsense. It doesn't do you any good to drink your own urine and You know these cockamamie ways in which you would kill large animals that would never in a million years work unless you trained and studied those approaches every day for your entire life which should be prevented from doing. Because of the regulatory structures that govern such practices. It's just hog wash and enters. People who through passion do professional discipline through wander lost. Wanna be out in the woods. They wanna be up in the mountains. They want to be smart. They want to be able to stay a long time. And that's the information. I try to provide an esa people i want to speak to. Let's just jump into some of the recommendations that you might have and we can. We've to this in a more indirect fashion but it's as we were discussing possible points to touch upon in our conversation before hanging record. You mentioned a number of things you mentioned technology and how you can buy your way out of trouble. Relatively easily in certain respects you referred to something known as paradoxical undressing which aside from being the name of my forthcoming memoir is unbeknownst to me. We talked about odds in other words perceived threats versus real threats and much more. Let's begin idea that one. I think of the threats that are fun to think about right that exciting to think about in the ones that are just the real that no one likes to think about the first blood threats like carry a serrated machete into the wilderness versus other. Let's begin with paradoxical undressing. What is paradoxical undressing. Just to scratch my niche. Because it stuck in my head. I i wrote about in got to thinking about hypothermia. I've come up close to feeling like wow like in the initial stages of hypothermia. I've had that happen to be a few times one time in a very pronounced way. It was being in a in a river in alaska and october with a dry suit on that had a ruptured seam and like my dry suit was full of water and some of the things that happened in those in those kind of this over the course of forty five minutes to an hour intense thirst like just as intense desire to quench my thirst and being disoriented realizing that i was very cold realizing that i didn't have the ambition to remedy that situation trying to talk myself into doing the things that would be required to get warm again and then oddly the sensation that the cold had passed though. There was no plausible explanation. For why i would all of a sudden not be cold anymore and in researching this i got reading fair bit about hypothermia and in in addition some interesting things like the number one state for hypothermia deaths as alaska number three is new mexico which caught me by surprise number two i think bounces between wyoming and montana within jumps down south so new mexico which may people having their head as being like a plenty warm place as surprising so your body when in terms of the paradoxical undressing as you're getting cold your body starts to restrict blood flow to your extremities it blood vessels constrict. That's why you might notice it as you're getting cold your fingers turn white right your toes get cold. Your fingers turn white. Your body doesn't want to be pushing all that blood out to places where it's getting cooled. I want to add anything here to talk about. Like a lot of animals. Use the movement of blood into thin parts of the body as a way to shed heat so if you look at an african elephant an african helvin has these giant ears right. Compare that to a woolly. Mammoth the nice age animal. The wo- the mammoth very small ears. Woolly mammoths lived in these cold climates. They didn't want to have that blood out and their ears because the heat get sapped out of it. An african elephant very hot place puts a lot of blood into its ears to try to cool that blood off. It's like running into a radiator so to speak so your body thinks the same way inasmuch as being caught your body thinking everybody doesn't want to send blood out to the extremities where it's getting cold tries to keep things in your core and keep you know your your internal organs. Warm that requires a lot of energy. So does this thing that happens to hypothermia victims. Or they'll find someone who's died of exposure died of hypothermia. Close would be laying all around them because it requires all that energy to constrict the blood vessels eventually they tire you run out of the energy.
"rinella" Discussed on The Tim Ferriss Show
"That's with v. Stephen rinella r. i n. e. l. l. a. Meat eater steve. Welcome back to the show. Thank you for having me on. I appreciate it man. I have so many questions for you in part because you are not just an expert in survival wilderness skills but you actually practice and showcase this on a regular basis. So you're not describing in your books or on television. Some type of fetishizes romanticized version of survival. Which i think is highly highly common. These days suppressed. We could start with just survival. Fantasy versus survival. Reality a leave it broad on purpose. But where should we start in terms of discussing the common misconceptions of survival or portrayals of survival versus the realities. Yeah i think you set it up as a sort of a dichotomy or like a two mindsets. One is the impulse to run away from the woods. That it's this bad place you found yourself stuck in and you need to get out as quickly as possible for for something terrible happens to the other is and it's it's sort of mindset and it kind of captures. The ethos of our new book is that it's a place worth running toward the outdoors. Nature wilderness is a place we want to be. It's fun to be there and a few skill set and knowledge base helps you do it fairly risk free or at least having a good sense of what the actual risks are do it safely risk-free enjoy it for you. Enjoy it for your family so you might imagine like a lot of survival. Materials is key like you said is is this fantasy thing. There's this fixation on drinking year piss which is really really like it's nonsense doesn't do you any good to drink your own urine and You know these cockamamie ways in which you would kill large animals that would never in a million years work unless you trained and studied those approaches every day for your entire life which should be prevented from doing because of the regulatory structures that govern such practices. It's just hogwash. And enters people who through passion do professional discipline through wander lost. Wanna be out in the woods. They wanna be up in the mountains. They want to be smart. They want to be able to stay a long time. And that's the information. I try to provide an esa people i want to speak to. Let's just jump into some of the recommendations that you might have and we can. We've to this in a more indirect fashion but it's as we were discussing possible points to touch upon in our conversation before hanging record. You mentioned a number of things you mentioned technology and how you can buy your way out of trouble. Relatively easily in certain respects you referred to something known as paradoxical undressing which aside from being the name of my forthcoming memoir is is unbeknownst to me. We talked about odds in other words perceived threats versus real threats and much more. Let's begin idea that one. I think of the threats that are fun to think about right. That are exciting to think about in the ones that are just real that no one likes to think about the first blood threats like carry a serrated machete into the wilderness versus other. Let's begin with paradoxical undressing. What is paradoxical undressing. Just to scratch my niche. Because it stuck in my head. I i wrote about in got to thinking about hypothermia. I've come up close to feeling like wow like in the initial stages of hypothermia. I've had that happen to be a few times one time in a very pronounced way. It was being in a in a river in alaska and october with a dry suit on that had a ruptured seam and like my dry suit was full of water and some of the things that happened in those in those kind of this over the course of forty five minutes to an hour intense thirst like just as intense desire to quench my thirst and being disoriented.
Busting Internet Skincare Myths with Dr. Ranella Hirsch
"Okay. Welcome dr hirsch can i. Can i call you dr her short call. You can call me rinella fat. Okay so rinella okay. We thought you like the timeless right to have you on the show and really have you like call like like basically like spit some truth on a lot of like internet skin rumors going around. I am here to bring the truth. Okay excellent so excited for this. You guys have no idea now you got. This could be clear about this. You collaborated with us on a lot of the skin-care misconceptions that i'm going to be rattling off. Because we have our own we have a lot of like. Dm's and like emails that people are always like writing us like. Is it true that blah blah blah blah blah and that we've kind of like saved them We'll get to that. We'll do a segment shore. And then you have the questions that people come into your office and say like i've been hearing about that. So we've collaborated with put them together and here of the top myths or misconceptions that we need the truth on okay. The real deal here for him. Number one fungus can feel like family feud. Okay thank you really into. I ask my responses need to be in the form of a question no i i never really. I'm not a jeopardy person. I can't okay. number one. fungus can cause acne survey very very very false. There is no such thing so yeah sometime. We actually map this out there. There's a wonderful program where you can look and see trends on google and if you actually look at this sort of straight line straight by straight line and then march twenty twenty this line kind of becomes an up going mountain in terms of searches for the term fungal. Acne on google. And what happened with we think. Is that someone somewhere on. Social media sort used the term and it just suddenly multiplied and multiplied. Made lots of lots of fun game vs life. Unfortunately that firm is not acne at never will be. Acne is a chronic inflammatory condition of the skin. People genetically produced too much oil. The oil tends to clog the opening to your poor which is where kind of the oil comes out. The hair follicle lids. Those people tend to get what we call. Call me don's acting. We treated a whole bunch of different ways depending on whether you're more inflammatory. Acne mother coma donal acne. What the term. I dare not say it to give it life. The correct name of malice sesia selected as it is called pittosporum and what it is is just a fungus that lives normally it happily on our skin minding its own business going about its day. Now doesn't bother you. You don't bother it but something can sometimes happen where it might be very humid environment might be wearing tighter close. You might be traveling where suddenly your body rhythms a little bit different and that fungus proliferates and you start to get lots and lots and lots and more of them and we see that presenting actually not even that frequently on the face. It's much more on the chest a little bit sometimes on the back occasionally on the airline and actually much more men and what happened. Was that a particular person. Probably thought they acne retreating it. A doctor said oh no it's actually this fungus and the name fungal acne was born. But it's something that dermatologists will recognize heartbeat and they are two completely separate things now. It has become a whole cottage industry. People asked me if they can use less medication with fungal acne. Someone wrote a blog about fungal. Acne approved cleansers. I have no idea what that means. There's all sorts of sort of fungal. Aki discussion groups support systems. It's not a thing never wasn't thing never will be hit thing really straightforward electrolyte from a fungus. That is very easily treated after being recognized diagnosed. Okay follow up question the word acne right came about because of a bacteria that was named you know is is the acne that we think of acne always caused by not that strain of bacteria but a strain of bacteria show. That is a deeply brilliant question to bacteria. Mac which i think is one of the best names in all of dermatology because what used to be called the bacteria that we classically thought of his living in the face so yes and no is the answer your question in the classic teaching you sort of think. okay well into this particular bacteria that's proliferating realistically. The skin has a lot of things going on. And if you start to get especially when you see things opening up when you start to see since when you start to see people picking at their faces other things become introduced into the skin classically. The teaching is yes jennifer. What you're saying but in real world there's probably some element of a little bit of a mixture. Actually if you were culture some of either back to you but there are some guests might be there but again the fungus is living there minding its own business not love regardless of she just has shown yeah. Yeah it's it's really not it's not actually pustules from the fungal presentation it's very much. It's a very classic presentation very similar looking small bums predominantly on the chest or a little bit on the hairline. It's really requested. Can actually we test for it in. The office is not painful. It sounds terrible but a little scrape. It's you wouldn't even know. I was there. We look under. The microscope has very classic presentation boom diagnostic tests. Could we call it. Fungal full icky litis. If you must.
"rinella" Discussed on The Joe Rogan Experience
"It's funny because we're in such a historic time right now or in the middle of it no one day. They're going to look back on these days. Post this crazy election. When people are jockeying for position. Who's going to be able to control They'll be like fucking podcasts. Joe rogan a weird. That joe road dead ruin at all. Yeah or not or not. But they're going to be looking back at this time a chaotic time it is. I mean this is. This is a history time like when when people in the future going over the twenty first century and all the different turns and riles and tribulations. There's going to be a pivotal moment. We what's his jamie seventeen. Twenty five group of indians including one. How do you say that. A toll and osage osage. We'll sage one missouri chief one missouri. Young woman one illinois one chicago. How do you see that chicago or chicago pronunciation and one metric. Gami us to paris there. They met with the director of the company of the indies and the duke and the duchess of bourbon chiefs were given a complete french outfit which included a blue dress coat silver ornaments and a plumed hat trimmed and silver. They're presented to king louis the fifteenth and they performed a dance at the opera. The french king gave each of the chiefs. A royal medallion a rifle a sword and a watch. Well then it goes on name mortgage. So that's seventeen twenty-five lewis and clark eighteen four but those were those were like you know not western drove western books that i read listening to. I should say on audio book about native americans. Maybe it was black elk or they talked about him going over to europe and taking part of those wild bill shows. They did over there. That did that is one of the more fascinating things about the wild west. Was that these people that were involved in these historical battles then re grin. It would be as though this isn't the participants in the battle a little bighorn where they defeated the seventh cavalry under cost during his command. Participation of that battle would later get together. They would get together because you know there's other. There's other like campaigns at the same time so like we think about culture getting killed but not too far away was more soldiers. That didn't participants that were later. Get together play it out It's hard to picture that we would have Al qaeda fighters reenacting come and be like. Oh yeah i survived the global war on terror and shit. Now we're going to show you like no. I was sitting here when kicked in the door. Like how that happened. Actual people from gettysburg would get together right. Yeah and hander. Yeah feel like my oh man fall to. I feel like i've had you gone. I don't know maybe older in life and they said hey. Do you want to get together with some of the you know what you like to call crowds. Who were in the war and you show what happened when your buddy got killed. I think he might be like yeah. No no that's still feels a little fresh. Yeah real fresh. Yea and these guys were doing this not long after two. They weren't even all men yet now. Yeah like a half a decade. It's it's so we're talking about the level of animosity that these people would kill each other on both sides mutilate the bodies deep deep deep hatred the likes of which is hard for us to comprehend like the impulse to to desecrate the corpse of your enemy and then get together and have a wild west show about it one of the moon mutilating bodies recommended. Son of the morning star. Have you read. It has heavy heavy shit the things that they did to each other. Yeah and the the crazy thing was that the native americans had no sense of there was there was no quitting. There was no sense of Turning themselves in there was no sense of. Like if you were captured your your murdered and mutilated. So they would fight to the bitter end. There was no surrender because if you surrendered you would be tortured and killed like some of the depictions of the tortures from that and empires of the summer moon bodies just like jesus christ like when did they develop such insane cruelty in his. This always been a part of being a human being or was this exacerbated by the hard conditions of the of the planes like what what led them to be so vicious it. It's a great question man. There's things about like things that these great the great lakes tribes of like bomb making people eat parts of themselves. You know But a lot of you know there's things about the how how you handle that And not crack. Respected was like testing. You know but i. i don't know what it was like to live i. I can't even begin to imagine what it's like to live with that level stuff. There's a i. Recently read a book. Called planes in the yellowstone and it was a history of the yellowstone and This guy takes that whole. It's sort of like an antidote to some of the morning star because he takes that that coster fight which has become so emblematic of the west. And like this regarded as big turning point in the history of the indian wars and he treats it like just like a little kind like inconsequential thing to happen. One day just didn't really matter. The the book was written. Man i mean is like everyone knows how the story is going to end. Nadaye didn't have any bearing on housing in a guy. Did something stupid. Gossen people killed the war ground on. It'd be like we're con. If it'd be like a for like imagining d day it'd be like let's they were imagining d day and then we heard about some spur. Ferrall story that happened on d day. Where like a weird thing happened. And some soldiers got killed and some guy made a mistake and got some people killed in our telling of d day Unless say that incident was called the whatever the back elements incident Now when we conceptualize details when we talk about coster. It's like this isn't his analogy. I'm presenting it this way when we talk about coster. Were sort of talking about d day as the backgammon incident..
"rinella" Discussed on The Joe Rogan Experience
"You're taken science out of the hands of scientists and putting into the hands of the public but in all fairness i hope it doesn't pass because wolves are showing up in colorado on their own. I think that's a better way to go but less social tensions. It'll happen slower. It'll be like you'll you'll like generate a sort of different sort of wolf that way So i hope it doesn't pass. What do you mean by that generated. Different sort of wolf. I mean that wolves that this is a little bit. It's a little bit fuzzy. But it's like one wolf's we establish off seasons and monte wolf hunting seasons trapping seasons in montana and wyoming idaho after a long period where we're in a wolf seasons it had a really dramatic impact on how the wolves behaved It it made them much more secretive. Move them to different areas kind of pushed him out of some of the bigger rypien zones. It just sort of change their attitude Change the way they interact with the landscape. So that you're getting It it it might be true. The by having wolves that have this instinct of they're already coming out of the greater yellowstone ecosystem passing down through southern wyoming and golden colorado. They might have kind of a. They might have developed a finer tune instinct about avoiding trouble with people. Because there's a lot of selective pressure against wolves and against grizzlies. A lot of selective pressure against those that are too ready to engage with man. It's like a good way to end up dead when you engage with man and spend too much time around. Livestock spent time around developments as like. It doesn't work out for those ones. The ones that shy away from an avoid habitations avoid livestock like. That's the that mentality in a wolf gets rewarded so it could be that If we're headed down a path where it's it's just gonna happen. That colorado is going to have wolves now say like absolute is going to happen because it happened. They showed up on their own. Do they know what the numbers landfill. But they think they're having pops so it. The people who the people that architects of this plan colorado was is not going to happen fast enough. They want that real fast and do they have a specific reason why they wanted to happen. Faster they they would say that That wolves are gone because of human manipulation because a very intentional plan to shoot them in poison them off the face of the earth this was in the eighteen. Hundreds eighteen hundreds thousand nine hundred and that is a wrong. That's a sin against nature and that we have an obligation to rectify that crime. That sin and bring this animal back there. Enthusiasms don't tend to all sorts of wildlife but this is a highly to them a very symbolic one It's very symbolic People you know the black like why they don't have those passions around the black footed know out of love blackfoot adverts. They don't feel that way about black footed ferrets but with wolves it's like it means a lot to him. I think also that is bringing wolves in is a little. It's like also no one's ever going to tell you this. I have a suspicion that i have a personal theory. That it's a kind of a way to sort of stick to It's kind of way to stick it to cattle producers kind of way to stick the hunters There's a there's a little bit of that that infuses it a little bit of a cultural antagonism That that that that that it isn't scratched with black footed ferret work like it is with wolves just symbolic so you think so. Are they like Vegetarians wanna stick to counter producers. Because they don't want people growing cattle. Oh in to speak. In very very general terms. The cattle industry has been historically quite hostile to environmental groups across the all the predators. Hostile wolves I'm kinda like you know if you if you could work into my brain on it and sort of like just accept what i'm telling you is true thing like i do like wolves to be on landscape ice. I recognize that there are real problems. The real problems for real people the come with wolves. I don't think we should. I don't think we can justifiably play. God and eliminate species from the planet like like. That feels very deeply wrong to me. I want wolves beyond the landscape. But if they're going to be on the we're going to have to set what that looks like and then open up like pressure release valves and pressure release. Valves will take the form of hunting and trapping like state management. There should be a stable population of wolves. We should agree what that population looks like. And they should be managed by the state as a renewable resource. as like. what. I want is pretty clear on an anti wolf purse. I am as an anti Abuse of the endangered species act person. saw an i- anti predator at all man. I enjoy seeing them. I enjoy cotton tracks in montana. Lot to see him. Alive seem only very rarely and glimpses of them But you can go find them. Quite easily and certain areas like in yellowstone national park. You can go find them. They were people would like even before the hunting season started. You'd run into more. I was with ben. O'brien met ben and we found a carcass of a moose calf that had been torn apart by wolves it was wild was pretty recent. It was cool to see the other day. We were looking at a brand new on this morning. We're looking at a brand new track and a big burn area. A brand new track and brand new powder stone powder snow.
"rinella" Discussed on The Joe Rogan Experience
"Got one of them got messed up bad. But he killed my. Why did he kill. And i did. Maybe they had their gun out right weird situation too because if you guys were relaxed eating lunch which regards down. You're sitting there chewing on a sandwich. I always laughed house in the middle of saying like i was in the middle of a sentence. I'll never forget because someone was laughing about. Why reprint some sandwiches together in someone was laughing about why my sandwich look so much nicer than someone else's sandwich and i said if you want i was in the middle of saying if you want a sandwich like this get your own fucking tv. Show but i. I was never able to finish the sentence but i know i was in the middle of saying that when all of a sudden the people around me erupted off the ground As the like a land mine had gone off underneath us. Whoa because they saw didn't see that was like near way and he came in running off. Just i look scary man. And i've i've had like you know fair fair bit of exposure And i'm like i mean relative most ton of exposure those things. I got to expose my ten year old kid doing this year a couple of times. You know Hunt caribou in alaska. News it was like cool to kind of see his thought process you. You've been exposed to a more than ninety nine point nine nine nine percent of the population. Yeah and for it to rattle you like that. Those disappointing man. Because we're always talking about. Do this now do that. Roy's like yeah you know. I actually prefer the forty four over two three. Because you know if. I can't get it done with this thirteen thirteen reasons. He doesn't want to charge me with this semiotics. All this bullshit you know hits like swat it with the tracking poll. I've only seen one grizzly ever in the wild up close and it wasn't a big one it was like six foot bear But it looked at me in a way that a another bear has never looked before. Yeah i've seen black bears. Black bears look at you. Like what are you who you. What's going on kind of walk by you. Like black players. Look people to it a weird way denizens of the underbrush man. The grizzly looked at me. Like this is locked on me. And i was like oh shit like that is just a different thing. I looked at me like am i. Heating you marguerite you. There's a mindset. Probably that comes from Is a mindset. That probably comes from just not being challenged yeah and where i was at in alberta. They can't hunt them so no one hunts them so they're they're bigger they're more fierce and they have no pressure you can't still albert kenya. Bcu you more bc camp but you cannot grizzlies burden and guys take albert. I'm not. I'm not saying everywhere but i know they. Don't bbc lost its bc losses. Grizzly on this is my friends. John and jen rivet. They were talking about how they're trying to Get them to open up some sort of a season because they have a lot of them up there. Now oh okay and because the the woods are so dense they don't really know how many of them there are. but there's so many encounters with people. Yeah the the bbc shutdown was very was political right. It was very oh it was like a it was a referendum issue. That's a weird one right because the people that are making that decision. They've never had an experience with bears. What you talk to the people that actually live in the bush and they'll tell you though there's a lot of christie's up there and then there was also a thriving Business and industry of people that were guiding up there and they're constantly in contact with them and they're know this is not an endangered animal. Yeah people who live in proximity do like people who live in proximity to things that are regarded as endangered tend to have tend to have a different perspective on the abundance than people who look at it from far away. This is a good time to find this out what happened in colorado with the walls. Though i mean had to pass jamie could pull it up. They had to pass overwhelmingly. Yeah contract. I know that utah's right to hunt and fish pass by a landslide constitutional right to hunt and fish. What does that mean Thirty some states have it now. There's like that you have a right to hunt fish. And it doesn't usually have teeth but it might in the future or just to give away challenge laws. It's it's being used right now in like montana has a right to hunt and fish. Okay you have constitutional right hunt and fish meaning that That a state has recognized that renewable resources can be like should be allocated to hunters and anglers And it's one might ask well. How's it ever come into fruition. There are there's a lawsuit right now. In in montana there's a lawsuit against the governor in the state who they put a cap they put a quota on the wolf harvest and they're being sued by a conservation group who's worried about the steep decline in elk numbers. They're being sued by that conservation. Group that their right to hunt as being infringed upon by a reticence to control wolf numbers to the detriment of big game hurts. People are usually. I think people are supposed to act like apologetic for the fact that they want while game resources Like it's like. Oh you know We talked about this one individual that you were curious about who is very instrumental wolf introductions and he refers to homeowners as the recreational big game killing industry and has kind of like a swipe at people who sort of act like. It's not a legitimate perspective to want there to be deer elk moose caribou to eat in us. I'm like very unapologetic about my view. That want there to be a lot of deer elk. Whatever game what's most of your food right. yeah i want. I want that to be on the landscape. I want there to be abundant amounts of that. And i don't. I'm not bashful about the fact that my desires there Influence my feelings about predator management like. I don't view it as that bad. Wolves coyotes competition. Yeah yeah let's see here pass says it's too close to call. It's up ten no shit. Wow that wow man they were. I think they're predicting that was a done deal. Holy shit. it's only now that to be clear that is just that proposition one foreign colorado is is they're saying restore great grails what it is. It's making the the state fish and game agency will need to craft a plan. There is a lot. It's not like it's not like that passes and awesome. Here comes a helicopter full wolves. It doesn't go that way. They have to craft a plan and that plan has to be approved. Yeah it'll be in it'll be you can imagine it'll be like all kinds of lawsuits all kinds of issues a lot to be sussed out. But it's the state game agency to craft a plan and take seriously What it would look like like because the argument is like oh. You're making it a popular vote..
"rinella" Discussed on The Joe Rogan Experience
"And then there's so much money involved and so many people are saddling up to the table and influence them whisper in their ear and to make it all these compromising deals. I like to think about how long you have left on. The planet should l. Yeah i wake up. I try to think about that every day. All politicians interoffice not make a clock set for four years or whatever and it counts down. I need to get one of those like for life for like roughly my life expectancy countdown backwards. Well don't you think your life expectancy. I mean you are one of the few people that i know that as almost been killed by a grizzly bear. Well yeah well You had a real like in a brush and a something enough where it was scary enough that i now. Now that i've studied at fair bit the now no i had I had a mental. I had a. I had a. I had like a like a near death. Experience mental a near death experience mental experience even knows unharmed but But jarred my brain so hard jarred my the the the the the minute. The seconds that occurred jarred my brain so hard. That as i started as i've tried to be curious about study about what happened in my brain It's parallels are all found in disgust by discussed near death experiences which might just mean. I'm not a mentally not. That i'm not as tenacious. Manley's i'd like to be got jostled but don't you think that juggle the word is now. Don't you think that when you're in contact with an animal. That's dot larch a predatory animal. That's how big was ten feet. How big is beasley. yeah. I don't wanna like it was like struck all of us when we've looked at a lot of parents as being like a mature brown bear okay so mature kodiak brown bear. That's what we wanted to talk about where you were at a fog. Nak island is a place that has enormous bears that whole part of the world is known for some of the largest brown bears on earth. It's it's separated from kodiak by narrow straight it's like so like the the kodiak brown bear being the world's biggest barrows a neighboring island but at that specific specimen i dunno a mature animal. Best huge just huge. When you're around something like that where there can be no doubt that you can't get out of the way you can't you can't fight it off you can't you're you're helpless like it must trigger something in your your mind where you you you come to grips with the reality of predator and prey that you almost were on the menu. Yeah there's just no way around that you can't there's no there's no rationalizations you could play in your mind when you're confronted with such absolute superiority. Are you familiar with the term plan. Possum yeah obviously so arner. Standing of opossums now is that they're not playing out right. Yeah yeah stress. He's not playing dead. He hits such like he hits such a stress level did he shuts off I'm like embarrassed to admit. But i think it's instructive to point out that I was playing possum in that moment. And i don't mean playing. Yeah it like it possibly out. Let's tell everybody doesn't know the store. Oh yeah so real quick Fog nak island. We've been yapping longtime but we we're hunting at hong elk up in a tree and left it for a day and a half all the meat hanging in a tree Then were camped away from there and went back to retrieve went back with a few guys to retrieve the me out of the tree and baird found it And we are very very aware that this might occur and went up and investigated the area round the tree and determined bear. Hadn't found yet in fact that the carcass of the animals land not far away. it was untouched In hindsight there was a pile bear. Shit that had been smeared on the on the ground. And i remember looking at that powell bear shit and then wondering if it had been smeared by bears foot or smeared by a boot and i determined that look been smeared by boot which roadman wheat smeared the shit when we were hanging on the tree and stupid like sat down to eat lunch and within a couple of minutes to sit down. Eat launch It came the bear came in. Its its open mouth past Just eighteen inches from my head and facing away. So i was last one to see it. jaanus for you know he pistol. He had bear spray but he hit in the head with a pair of black diamond trek and polls he'd sat down. He's got spray and set his pissed alana's pack. But then when the talking about like playing possum and all the shift happens there. His instinct is a smack it with a tracking poll. Wow everything you spend all your you know you spend all your time thinking about how you gonna handle this that and the other thing and Sometimes it's disappointing that you don't handle stress that will you know i just. I don't know. I don't know where i went. One of our guys got ran over by a bear. Wrote it down the hill At that moment i snapped out of whatever is in but i was shut me down bad. I even noticed I've noticed there's a thing that happens people when they get really cold. They enter a sort of a self fulfilling prophecy mentality when you start to get cold He lose as you start to get really cold like where you get like. He could be in a hypothermic situation. people stop doing the things that you would do to get warm and i is aware of that as i am as many times as i've experienced that i still see it happened to me. I still have two snapped myself out of like you just like you're getting cold. You're getting the gic. You're getting cold more lethargic the colds getting worse and has to be like you can stop. You can step in right now and stop this and that the remind it's still it's like it's still hasn't come. Naturally you know you talk to people who train you. We trained for this kind of stuff that they have to train in very realistic environment. The train let keep your head you know and just like make good decisions if you walk into a active car crash scene or whatever a severed hand laying on the ground right. Some people are just going to see that hand anything else. Some people are just gonna see chaos and they're not going to focus on any particular thing but it's like the person come in see the hand everything around them like assess all that it's it's just from exposure to that super traumatic stuff not to get colds traumatic but i do when i look at how i respond to things. I do catch that. There's like a mentality to practice and learn. It's it's understandable that something like a bear attack would trigger senses and trigger response that you're just not conditioned for not. I don't know how you'd ever get condition to a bear attack. No no no i. Don't i mean i don that same island these dudes at the same island there are some guys some The same island. I think later that same year of some operative some military guys happen to be ending their they got tagged by baron killed.
"rinella" Discussed on The Joe Rogan Experience
"Three hundred bucks. It's an interesting. Arizona went blue. That's interesting i mean. California always goes blue. Oregon always goes blue that all make sense washington that makes sense. Was that not happening is when we set this date. Joe we say here and talked about that. America would be on fire as we recorded this. I think they're waiting to find out. What the results are. And then then they light the fuse. They can't start the fire yet. They might have won like both sides. Yeah the trump people are not sure for mad yet and then you know the biden people one. What's happening here. No one knows once decided once it goes to court. That's going to be shit show. Is it a different way the different camps. If there is like a court dispute the different camps like the one impulse is to mount a giant flag on your truck and other dudes and trucks to roar around. But that's only the trump people awesome. That's one camp one camp would be a. I've a friend who has a student who has a husband in the military and he described these rolling motorcades as vanilla isis. I've been now isis. He served and it reminded him of the isis flags in the back of trucks. Then nella isis that was his depiction of it but the other camp is that you and the other camp. When you're mad like you go to like you go. You march downtown. Know it's like the two sort of playbook are just very different. Yeah ones in a car was marching. Ones like a display like. I don't think the knowing that will get if not going to get mad about the by like no biden. Personable put a big biden flag on their truck and drive aggressively on a highway. No here's my take on. Trump people aren't going to go downtown. Ne arch and not with other cars. I wonder what like who's what side is in worse shape to march the biden. People that trump people who have like worse backs and fucked up. Oh that's possible to say. I you know i like right now. It's about that responsibility. Thing i right. I don't know if you feel like you probably don't feel this i right now. I'm kind of like grieving for america. A little bit not how the election might twist. But i'm grieving for america about If the polarization is true. And i sometimes questioned whether it's true or not because when i go out i just have like I've been talking about this all the time lately when i go out about in my community and elsewhere sitting here right now whatever i have like very positive interactions with my fellow americans. When i go to the gas station. They're going to buy some shit. I come away happy. That's most people. When i go talk to my neighbors who i've like. I legitimately my neighbors around me. I have no idea who they're voting for. I really don't know. I kind of actually don't care when i go and talk to my neighbor's There's like a love right. But then all i hear about is the ripping apart and i'm like either dark and it's ripping apart. I'm like too stupid to notice it. But i do like i do Like i'm a little scared. I'm a little scared as well. Did you watch the social dilemma. A netflix we've been in our old people with kids way watching it in fifteen minutes. Sharma's reva tv in our bedroom. But when i'm home we watch fifty minutes of on a cell phone. I have no idea why my twelve year old daughter. This is the dumbest thing i've ever seen. She hated it. We tried to make her watch it. Because i just want her jail. The dangers dilemmas social media. But to her meat is awesome. I like tiktok. She's tiktok and and chat with their friends sees the positive sides of it. What i was trying to get her to see is like obviously has no interest at all in politics. She's she doesn't understand the division that it's happening in this country because people live and he's echo chambers and the argue ideas and the way social media exacerbates this with their algorithms. That point you towards things that are outrageous point point you towards things that piss you off and keep you in this. This sort of ideological bubble and the people are dividing further and further away from each other. And you look at this shift in the way people view the other side whereas there were so many more people that were sort of centrists or you know had a little bit of ideas from the last little bit of ideas from the right now. That's very divided very divided and it's directly correlated with the invention of social media. Yeah but the if if the division and hatred is only digital but it spills out obviously does spill out into the real world seattle. You lived in seattle for awhile. Did you ever have imagined that they would take over a six block. Area of seattle. Yes you really. Did you thought they could. I feel like. I could definitely see it. Because i i when i was there. There was enormous an enormous amount of tension around The homeless crisis in seattle that loitering laws camping laws were just suspended and they would go into an encampment like wherever i wish i knew the proper term from going to in legal encampment or whatever and move everybody out actually scrape the topsoil away because the needles and stuff whatever scrape the topsoil away palau and then people just moved back in and there's a lot of tension about this and it was that some people are like why why don't we. Why can't we enforce like. Why don't we enforce the law and he'll be like well you know. It's it's like inhumane to people who are in need and there was like an emerging tension there so to have it later. Be that you saw that kinda like blow up on this grand. National scale doesn't surprise me after seeing that level of of just consternation from people who've been there long time about why do i have this feeling that there is like laws that i'm held to but some people are just not held to law and this is pre covid when you were living there. Oh yeah yeah. Yeah so like being witness to that and hearing the amount of of.
"rinella" Discussed on The Joe Rogan Experience
"That the flag is distracting. One can see the fucking flag. It doesn't matter like what are you talking about. But this is what happens when you get a whole crew of people. You get so many chefs in the kitchen and some guy just decides that he's going to stop the conversation between the fucking president of the united states. Who's getting grilled by this lady. Because he doesn't have flags moving that to me symbolizes everything. That's wrong with heavily. Produced novi produce television. The or one of the things. That's wrong what's really wrong. They pushed the agenda. They push what you're going to talk about. You'll they'll decide who your guests are. The no one has any say. And whom i guess our i choose all of them. I choose the day they come in choose. What what we're gonna talk about. There's the conversations are only what i'm interested in things i'm interested in so i don't have to fake anything like i love talking to you. I was excited to talk to you today. I got excited woke up this morning. I've ride stephen. L. is going to be here. There's no like a who. Who do we have to talk to today. Should never happens. Yeah that's why it resonates all these shows where it's heavily produced in in. You know just trying to get the biggest celebrities in like. There's a really disturbing video from of howard stern from like two thousand thirteen. Somebody leaked in. It's him giving some speech in front of all of his employees talking about getting the show to become more popular. This is what we have to do and we have to get x. Amount of celebrity need to list and to be list a week and it was like wow really housing cam. They're telling people to make fake twitter profiles and tweet celebrities and watch us like yeah. Let's do bad. Yeah exactly as a person who's a gigantic fan of growing up. I didn't i never thought he thought like that. I never thought anybody would do that. This is one of the best things about podcasting at least with the way some people do it. Authentic it's just raw so when people hear it with stumbles and all they know this is just two guys talking. This is two girls talking what that show. What is that called the caller daddy. Yeah yeah there became real popular. Because it's obviously just these these chicks talking. They just talk that way people like. Oh my god like this is how we talk when we're with our friends and the people resonates with them. You can't get that on the view. You can't get that on these heavily. Produced bullshit shows that are on television. We have a million producers and everybody cuts between commercials and fixes people's hair and your super self-aware. That's what happens when those god damn things it's weird people come in with notes and producers like maybe we can bring up in this episode. I know you like to talk about this. But let's be aware that people think that and you think this and this is this went. We've got shows that whenever you talk about this people to now so we gotta stop talking about that so they show all this research and all these metrics they fuck it it gets fucked up you resonates with people is authentic authentic and you don't get authenticity when you have overly produce things with one hundred people's ideas all shoved into one person's mouth you. It doesn't work that way. So the more these podcasts get bigger and bigger the more they fall they fall apart because too many people get involved. You've you've too. Many people shifting and mold them and change them and then they become just like everything else all these other overproduce things and look. There's some overproduce things that are really good. You know the tonight show with johnny carson. You could watch to this day like wow. That's a fucking really good show but it wouldn't work today wouldn't because now you have watering ears and you don't know you have watering year and then it comes out like oh that's what it was like. I could hear better if some that water back. And you're like what the fuck that water doing in there. I know what it's like to have no water year now. Yeah that's a bad analogy. But you get what i'm saying. I'm getting what you're saying people. They're they're accustomed to this thing. Now where you know. There's just there's no filter between you and that person you're in the room like that's how i feel when i was in your show like it's you and whoever's in there with you that's it does no one show that i really liked. I liked a lot of shows but one show that. I really liked the when we were talking to the author whose book got turned into the revenue. Michael punk that. That's not you n. K. e. Yeah that's a great one. I came at no. I think it's i think he doesn't pronounce the i punk. Damn sorry michael you because you have such a great knowledge of that subject and he. He does as well. And you're you're asking what is this and what does that. What was it like for you when they instead of doing on the planes. They decided to into rainforest in the pacific northwest. What the fuck was that like. And you're talking to them like it's correal clear. There's this is just you and that guy and you know jaanus and whoever else is there is no agenda there's no filters producers so it's it's intriguing person because it resonates it gets in the head. He's it slides right in there that that those little bit In some ways might have a little bit to do with A sense of responsibility or something. Because i had taken so many swipes over the years at my swipes at the movie the revenue right and voice my dissatisfaction with.
"rinella" Discussed on The Joe Rogan Experience
"And then they would say so You know what's been going on. What are you into and then you have a story about this and about that but has fun. That's fun you leave there and you have a good time with them. You know like eight out of ten of them were a good time. D- two out of ten. We're like this guy's gross like this show sucks. Some people were clunky. They just they're not good at it. They just do like when. I used to have to do that for books it was. I just thought that was worse than could possibly have person but when you're high and it's early in the morning and you went to bed like three hours ago and then leading up then lisi dealing comedy to go and be like well. If you go back to. Clark expedition. you'll find. Nothing was expected of me. I was just like the silly person who hosted fear factor or was on a sitcom and i would come in be in town to tell jokes and that was what was so. I always thought like particularly when i did if i did like the open. Anthony show in new york. That was a really fun because those guys were on by twelve. I started doing. It was on the regular radio too but they were on. Xm and when they were on xm you could swear house this amazing. Oh yeah swear you can just go on and it was hang like you'd have like four or five comedians in the room. We'd all just be shitting on each other and laugh in and and you get out of there like god. I felt so good. It was so fun. Then you go get some breakfast. Take a nap and go. Do your shows would you. Did you used to do stern ever. Oh yeah yeah. But that was a different thing. He could stern like at the helm he was. Never a hang you know is the howard stern show howard stern asking questions. You responding to those questions and you know it was very historic. That show like he was the he's the first guy he like. If it wasn't for him there would be none of this like guys before there was like i guess imus was one of those guys. I was never irish guy. But he was the guy who's nationally known as the man who is who had this outrageous radio show. Yeah and that sort of helped. The opie and anthony show come to fruition. And then that i think the opie and anthony show was the in a lot of ways the nexus it was. It was a lot of ways. It was the idea that led to podcasts. But when i was doing it there was no thought in my head like this is going to be just like the opening. Anthony show. This is going to be just like howard stern to just just you wait just to wait. There was none of that. Keep showing up. And then one day i was at the chicago theatre. I did this gig at the chicago. Theatres thirty seven hundred people right sold out show and i go story. I was gonna tell how many how people listen to podcasts. And i went. Oh shit. I'm putting that in my movie man. And i remember thinking because the joe rogan member very clearly being. Oh no like i like. I like almost a sense of like shit like this is. This has gotten to a place where i didn't know where it was and it's already there because i've been just doing it. I think by that time we're doing at the ice house. We had this little room off. The comedy club at the ice house would show up there and do it there. And it was just bizarre. I was like what happened. 'cause you're just doing it like this right you you could save. You wanted to twist this. And i think you could say in your own defenses. Maybe i'm wrong here. But maybe you knew something. Maybe you knew more than you thought because you probably were doing ten goofy things house. What do you mean. Meaning like. Let's say i Went out and started twenty business. Twenty goofy little businesses right right at some point like holy shit like one of them took off. Yeah turns out my business of selling old Ranch worn leather gloves to people who like you know. Wish they had that look took off and made a boatload of money and later i'm like You know i always knew do yours. He did all kinds of stupid everything. Nothing ever worked out for you then all of sudden takes off and you want to know act like you like saw common so i think that probably in the you know probably in the. It's good that you don't act this way but probably in the back of your head. You probably recognize iran. Like maybe recognize you around to something. No definitely not trying to try to you. Don't help me out. i'm telling you it's not the case. It's just dumb luck. I i have a certain amount of brain damage. I don't know how much you have but definitely have a little and i think part from masuda or not pharmacist. Kim punch for sure. There's a certain amount is inevitable. At the time. I was fifteen tells twenty one i got hit a lot. There's this must be some. And because i think there's a certain amount of not give a fuck that comes with that literally that was kicked into your head. This is i'm not joking. Sam kinison and roseanne barr the perfect examples of us. Both of them were normal people and they got hit by cars. Sam kennison got hit by a truck and his brother who talks about it in his book called brother. Sam brother bill wrote a book about it is like there was one sam and then sam got hit by a car and became a totally different person head trauma and then became wild and impulsive and just became a maniac sam kennison that we all knew and love same thing with roseanne one of the things when i was defending roseanne when she got in big trouble and she came on the podcast to talk about it. I wanted people to understand when i knew about roseanne. Roseanne was in a mental health institute. She was in. She was institutionalized for nine months after a car accident. She was hit by a car walking across the street when she was fifteen years. Old and just fucking wrecked like massive brain trauma like really never. The same again couldn't count. She was great at mathematics. She was a really an excellent student and then hit by a car and then just wild and impulsive and they locked her in a mental institution for nine months. She was crazy. She's like look certifiably. Crazy medicated on a whole bunch of different things and my take was like t to make her responsible for things she said when she's been rewarded her whole life outrageous shit n. She's on xanax. And she smoking pot and she's drunk and you you just wanna label. Hers is awful horrible person when america's loved her for her whole life for being the same. Same way for being wild and impulsive. But my point is that those two people were created that way from brain trauma. Yeah it made them wilder there has does no doubt i have some brain damage. No doubt and when when people say like why. Aren't you worried about criticism. Why don't you think there's some of that there. There's gotta be some of it where i had enough trauma just to the right amount enough of these it bother me that god i'm gonna have you just full out. Want me on the head. You think about the things just the right amount. The things that hold people back one of the big things that hold people back is fear right who they're worried. They're worried about the repercussions they're worried about other people's reactions that worried about how you'll be viewed the worried about these things..
Until Death: Raynella Leath
"As a child. Rinella grew up in a small community outside Knoxville Tennessee. Rinella was the second child. She had an older sister named flow. Anna and two younger siblings. Marcus and Robin her parents do e Annie met in college. They married after. Dewey had enlisted in the Army Air Corps. Any Finish College. Do we want a purple heart? And after the war he continued his education. So Anne worked as a schoolteacher and do he worked for the US Department of Energy so he made some good use at his time. Back in college had a masters degree in Chemistry and Physics and he was very invested in a safe storage of nuclear waste. Sounds like a smart guy. Yeah absolutely and Rinella grew up in this ideal environment. It was virtually crime free. And this was a town where she and her siblings could. Just hop on their bikes. Anytime go downtown. See a movie or use the Community Swimming Pool. It was kind of one of those pre planned communities for the nuclear power plant scientists. So the kids didn't even know what their parents position was at the company. But that's pretty much what it all revolved around but they were also religious rain. Ls saying in the choir of the Baptist Church and when she was in elementary school her classes were segregated but her high school actually became the first integrated school in the south in nineteen fifty five so at least in part because of the large population of these government scientists. Rinella schools were quite exceptional. The science were excellent of course and the children began learning a second language by the time they were in the second grade so it really gave her a lot of advantages in life her. She was always at the top of her class and was taking all the advanced courses she could. She's also in the marching band spinner weekends at Football Games drive INS and other activities common in the nineteen fifties. Yes he just watch American graffiti. That was kind of what it was like. Right right yeah. Drinking was less of a problem than in most communities because this county they lived in was completely dry. Yeah that's amazing how to combat alcohol. Well I mean if you really want the alcohol you could drive out of the county and get it sure but it's certainly made it harder on the kids in a lot of their parents didn't even have booze in the house which. I don't know about you but the first blues I had I snuck from my parents. Liquor cabinet will. It's where you get it right exactly and there's not just a dry county but a lot of lot of Baptist people and they don't look at alcohol. Is that interesting anyway now? I think it might be a no no for them completely. It certainly not encouraged note therefore remark so after high school. Rinella went to East Tennessee State University as a nursing student while they're Rinella got good grades in competed in rifle shooting. Yeah funny when you think about Ed. Just the way said that. I'm thinking here's a student right getting the grid. So but yeah. He's a marksman let's Tennessee. It's the south right and. I think there's you know more familiarity with guns in the south or is that just a a cliche. No I think that's probably true. Yeah we'll why she was there. This is when she met her. First husband. William Edward Dos it and he went by Ed but young ad had a very different childhood. He had many losses in his life. And I guess the most dramatic I would say was his mom's death. This happened on Easter morning. Nineteen fifty six when Little Edie was just eight years old and he woke up in the morning to find his mother on the floor beside his bed. Dead of a heart attack and just two months later. His Dad died from cancer. So Eddie was an orphan and he ended up moving in with his aunt. And uncle was kind of tough Lou eight-year-old cured get up in the morning and mom's dead on the floor. Can you imagine it's just? It's horrible so he had a much rougher upbringing then ray Nella dead but he was just a real go-getter and as a child. Everyone said he was exceptionally kind in high school. He played some football but he also worked on the school newspaper and he was a member of several clubs. Once he was in his senior year he was given the award for the Best School Spirit. Then he went to college on a football scholarship and he continued to date his high school sweetheart in his freshman year. Everyone thought these two would get married but then he met right now at college in broke up with the girlfriend not an unusual phenomenon. Guess so ED graduated with a business degree. He and Renault got married when she was a senior in college. Now the story I always liked Nell is mom. She didn't approve of that and she apparently knew how to hold a grudge. But she didn't speak to Ed for the first thirteen years of their marriage. Well that's serious grudge holding right. Guess so you really love my mother-in-law. She doesn't talk to me. But when you look at the big picture it kind of makes you think Did Rain Nella get some of that kind of personality from holding grudges or well at decided? He wanted to be a lawyer and he started taking classes at the University of Tennessee Law School in Nineteen Sixty nine ray. Nella began working as a nurse after she graduated in nineteen seventy two at graduated from law school. He had inherited his family's farm. Both of his parents were deceased so he would call himself a farmer and a country lawyer. But it's funny he always said I'm a farmer I and a lawyer second even though he would really end up being very successful as a lawyer did a good job. He had quite a career absolutely really popular as well. It worked in criminal defending people in need. Yeah he liked to help the poor people. Then in nineteen seventy eight. Renaudot gave birth to their first child. Maggie dice it and they then moved to the family farm. Young family lived in a mobile home on the property. As Ed built a new house they worked hard. He built the house entirely from lumber from his own trees. He had an architect who designed the home and he had a contractor friend who advised him on how to do things but basically he built this place. So that's pretty impressive to me. Sure is in nineteen eighty two. When a district attorney general retired decided to run for that job and the funny thing is once. He entered the election. His mother-in-law had a change of heart. Suddenly Ed was an okay guy. Who's now worthy of my attention right? Which really got crate? But she enjoyed this attention and she would be photographed with him at campaign events as much as possible. But Ed took it in stride you now. That's my mother-in-law. Whatever I'm going to be nice to. Everybody and Rinella was a good wife. She was working really hard to help them with this campaign. So it's not like they were on the outsor- anything. The marriage was really good for a long time. And when Ed Din win this election the family celebrated the local. Sheriff gave Ed a five shot. Pistol telling him now. He needed a gun to protect himself. Because he's putting away bad guys and they might come after him but that wasn't a gun guy then the next year at an Rinella had a son William Edward Dawson Junior. So now the family had big Edie and little Edie Ed had a secretary named K and she was married to a guy named Steve Walker and the two couples K. In Stephen Ed. Ray Noah were friendly and they did some socializing from time to time when K had a son who they named Kevin in nineteen eighty four. She left her position and ED's office and Henry now had a third child whose name Katie born in nineteen eighty five so rinella never visited the walkers but ed ended up spending a lot of time there and you might ask why they spent a Lotta time why. He spent a lot of time there because he was screwing k. Well I'm just thinking you know. Things must have been not perfect with he and Rinella by then if he's out having an affair her maybe he was just bored who knows but K. was very fond of him and that's part of the issue. A lot of people think K. Was really in love with Ed. But he wasn't going to leave rain Allah and we don't know if that's because it wouldn't look good if he was afraid of her. Maybe we don't know. But then in nineteen eighty AK had a second son who she and her husband named Kyle and although her husband Steve Did know about it until years later kyle was actually Ed's biological child the product of this affair kind of love child. We didn't know about birth control too. Well I'm sure there was some knowledge of it but who knows. Maybe she wanted to have a baby kinda nasty to pass it off as her husband. Well I don't know Dick. I almost think it's kind. Maybe you don't agree with me but I almost think it's kind of a kind decision. What good is it going to do their family now? They have two sons. What good is it if she tells her husband? The son is not biologically yours and maybe she didn't even know one hundred percent. That's a possibility but I mean I'm just one of these people. I think sometimes not most the time but sometimes holding back. A harsh truth can be an act of love controversial. But it's how I feel I'm GONNA leave it at that okay now. Nineteen Ninety right now retired from nursing and she concentrated on raising her children and managing the family farm. Dave Leaf was a nice man. Who's a friend of ED? And he had a pool. Nello take your children. Today's house to swim in the summer other than that. There was really no connection between Renault and Dave while they were very different people. I mean she really valued education and Dave was a high school dropout. Who worked as a barber? Not that. There's anything wrong with that but it's a much simpler job than ads. Still Dave was very likeable and well known in the community is a good guy. You know that same year ED started to have stomach pains now. He said in a board meeting for local farmers that he had the meanest away from the world. Who's trying to kill him even though he didn't smile and he said everyone's still took it as a joke. They all understood. That Renault is a real force. Probably wasn't the easiest woman to live with. Now I mean what can you say about right Allah from what we know. She was wearing the pants in her home. No matter who she was married to and you didn't want across her she could hold a grudge dislike her mom. I guess but then tragedy struck in October of nineteen ninety one because that was admitted into the hospital he thought it was just for an appendectomy but during that surgery a Denno carcinoma was found on his appendix and too small intestine so they did some further exploratory surgery and they found that he had cancer. That had metastasized to several organs. It was just all over his abdomen so there was no chance of curing him of that
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"Way that the stuff like that shifts. We're GONNA take a break but stay tuned for more back to Steve Rinella. We're GONNA get to these questions standard questions to ask every guest or ruin show so your job is extremely easy. Yeah I don't do sit here. What is your earliest memory? I remember going to Hawaii once and having an artichoke in thinking that it was funny. Because I'm a kid with his idea of grapefruits being a product of this Montana ranch. Yeah I remember going to Hawaiian having a grapefruit in in herbs. Have a not a great having an artichoke and really associating artichokes with Hawaii and remember like seeing a plan I had never laid eyes on before. Yeah and eating it and then I also because of my interest I probably overlaid you know my my recollection of it is probably outsized because of the the Mike continued interest through life. And you sort of give gravity to things that maybe weren't as impactful actually happened but I remember My Dad had a big deep fryer DECAPA garage and I remember. Many many of the wild game meals that he would cook that we go up to the garage to cook because he had this huge deep fryer. And like you know. We'd find a snapping turtle and eating the snapping turtle who good. Oh wonderful really an in soft-shell leatherbacks we call them that that turtle meat and sort of like how tender it was. I remember that like from being very young. This is a lot of excitement about game and excited about eating unusual things in the way that my my dad would make like a party of for the neighborhood. You know people come over because we'd be eating cool shit even though we cooked all the same way that's awesome cooked entity chosen a Turkey fryer. Yeah I just remember like that kind of enthusiasm. Yeah is the thing and I said it might be like outsized in my memory because it's conforms to well rightfully forms like world view that I hold right right. What is your death row meal? You're on death. Row You discharge your gun. Accidentally killed some leaves. Let's say on your. I WANNA make it to visualize knowing why I'm on death row If I have a diet look if I was gonNA design fad diet. It would be that I like to eat a lot of things that look like. They grew out of the dirt okay. Urban chopped off of an animal. It just that you look at it. And it's like very vivid. Okay so a typical meal and my house would be that we would have like a piece of Venison. Line Cook Bennett Grill. We would have Broccoli asparagus or something. That looks like it just grew out the dirt and we have salad leaves at this look like something that grew out of the dirt. A death row meal would be like that really. It would be that outlook and I'd be like I can picture this shit growing out of the dirt okay. I used to be a much more complex cooking but more and more I just like you know. The trumpster is names for it. For what like that kind of eating out just like simple which is yeah. I like unusual with food. You visualize I don't like a lot of things happening to it into more and more the older I get. I feel like the people in the prison that your death row going back. How the fuck am I supposed to do this? Borough LAME ASS meal. That's that's your plan though. They're not going to know how to give it to you. And then you're gonNA live forever. What's the best high end meal you've ever had had a couple recovered really extraordinary ones? But I used to be very suspicious of wine and wine culture. Okay still am writes that but I'll suspicious of it in just thought it was like such horse shit you know and it was a restaurant in Manhattan Veritas. I think it was yeah. I was suspicious of wind is not the place to go. Check south of the huge wine place friend of mine. I'm friends with a writer named Ben Wallace and he years wrote a book called the billionaire's vinegar. And can I get one thing led to another is a is a book about the most expensive bottle of wine ever sold okay and The letter another in somehow Ben and I wound up at a very curated meal with wine. Pairings at Veritas. Okay and the food was exceptional and it was kind of there must have been like zero like no concerns about budget around the wine. Yeah and the Somalia would open these wines and describe. He'd be like Kay you're GonNa this is GonNa Happen to you. You know you're gonNA taste this and that and this and that and I think bullshit they would but then like you'd like have the food that was right for any taste. The wine like Holy Shit. It was like It was like being at the Jelly belly factory. Wow Yeah I love that he would like. And then you'll notice like a hint of popcorn and you taste like son of a bitch most like memorable night man. I love that but I don't even WanNa know I don't want to get into the circumstances how this came to be in the individuals who were there it was like people that just like it was like cost was no consideration. Yeah so we were. Probably there is a fine line with emperor's new clothes with the Weinstein though. Yeah but this night and I I agree but I yeah. I tasted things and I'm like that's just different. My Buddy Mo- I was telling you you make too much money because he just picked up a wine habit and now he's just like Mr expert on wine and it's annoying sometimes but also love going his house because we're opening like crazy balls wine that are really delicious billionaires the billionaire's vinegar is a. I mean it's a story of someone duping wine people. Oh I think I saw a documentary on it. Isn't that dude in California? Who could like figure out? He was a mad scientist where he could figure out a flavor profile of wine and then mix CI will know what this guy what he his advantage was that no one knows what a bottle of wine from seventeen. Seventy seven tastes like right. This is Thomas. Jefferson's yeah people like I've had seventeen seventy seven hundred times. Don't tell me you'd be like okay. Tell me what what does it taste like so people had to be like? Oh I guess that's what it takes another to counter that I was in Vietnam. One time in guy had shot a little marsupial autry with air gun and he had like a seven step process to cook this Marsupial on an open fire. Okay of burning the hair off. Visceral acting it wrapping it and leaves got chilies from his garden. Hold on how did you meet this guy? Or you're just walking by we're riding mopeds outside of a new training okay. And there was one of those stands where they press sugarcane into a drain. Yes love that and we stopped in. Got The shooting the Shit and you just a farmer. Pair Cutoff Shorts Cook. We got shoot shit and what kind of went around by fire. And he's got like a air gun dead Marsupial Land Air and I took interest and we spend hours there. They'll lay and just dude. I'm it's like it's yeah. It was unbelievable. Wow and just the care it was. It was sort of taking his time to make like a special. There's a guy by himself. How mazing making like a very special meal for himself out of a rat. Wow but not a rat but like a rat light. Cruiser shot out of a tree and just It was magical man. Oh I'm GONNA actually. That was the answer to. I think my next question which was what's the best low end meal you've ever had. Oh Yeah. Do you have a favorite drunkard man? Yeah see I used to drink a lot. I just don't anymore when I cold Turkey or are you just don't just got gradually sick of it. We had we had a bunch of kids. Yeah so my wife was out of the drinking game for a fair bit of time or barely drinking then. We had the kids in like they. Don't ask to be born so it's hard to be hung over in a bad mood yet in the morning because like they're like dude like. I didn't ask you to have me but here I am like right. This is get your shit together like an awkward position because now you're like irritated with me but you had me so. I felt like I just like I couldn't. I couldn't be hung over days got short when I used to be a drinker. Now's a writer and drinker if I woke up like Kay. I'm GonNa work like nine hours today if I started one. I'll start at one right. GonNa put my day in with kids it just. There's a cap. Yeah like shit ends absolutely and so you had to be. You couldn't fit that th th the chunk had fit precisely right in the right spot so I just I just got away from it but but when you were drinking when I was my sort of like the kind of the height of drinking I was living grand rapids Michigan and we had a great bar we liked and across in. The Bar was Yesterday okay in today's Taco our talking and talking Chili dog man from yesterday dog used to be like I mean this place could just open at midnight and close at two. Am All the business. They're gonNa do my God man. The craving had you can give her yesterday and it was just like a Chili dog. This is cheap as like steamy on. Yeah that lived in New York for a while and there's just like those not ray's pizza slice dollar slice slice slice pizza. Yeah I just think of that as drunk food man so I was GonNa ask you. What your favorite hangover food is but again this is going back in the wheelhouse. You mean like after you hangover. You're hung over you wake up in the morning you're hung over. I guess we used to bide by that. That like greasy food. Settling your stomach kind of thing. Yeah I don't think it's like I was more into what you more into what you ate when you were drunk to prevent was into like what you ate once you were hung over right. I was I guess. Ibuprofen yes interesting. I never really thought about you. Know in some cultures. Like oh you have MNUCHIN. You're hung over. Oh yeah you need to have the TRIPE stew I mean? I just can't think of having like a thing where now just watered Ibuprofen I guess. Yeah Yeah I mean that's probably what makes the most sense? If I get back into it I'll I'll do some research on this yeah. Do you have a favorite celebrity chef and this doesn't have to be a TV chef or any of that but someone who's like food personality that you're like that's my York Dude. As Mind we call Jack Pappin. Jack Pepin Jack. That's mine and that's actually agnosio. Matas the chef that from a Stela we. That's his favorite celebrity chef. He has a book. Encore encore with Claudine or encore for just a weird name for book. Yeah no I love that dude man. He's his his video about. I've said this before on the podcast but his video about how to make an Omelet is best food video ever. He speaks my language. I understand what he's talking about. I never register any confusion. Yeah like I get. He's the best. Thank you always understand talking though school too. He was like before like you need to be a SPLASHY TV CHEF. Just like the love. That is their food. That you can't stand eating yeah brain's really six ow. I love rains. Well when I was in graduate school. We'd go for are one of the things we eat when we're all drunk this thing called ox the Oxford Docs anyways. They had a brains and eggs dish. Okay and it was like a thing. People come from out of town and you get all wasted. And then he'd be going..
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"Interesting yeah it was quicker rather than getting all these states on board with adopting wildlife laws putting in regulatory structures in finding away to have hunters fund wildlife like we do now instead of depleting. It took a long time. It happened but it took a long time. A most immediate thing you could do was were sportsman. Groups like hunter groups who were trying to preserve wildlife. Because if you didn't preserve you couldn't be honor would come in look to make a play and be like in New York. We're going to ban the sale of wild game in New York as a way of drying up the market in so eventually when we came in with this whole suite of wildlife laws that gave us the the the the wildlife splendor we have now. I'll apply me. We have the the this isn't even debatable thing. We have like the world's leading wildlife system in terms of like how popular how many people live here our economic output the fact that we have all the wildlife that we have almost doesn't even make sense. Yeah it's part of that is from having band that sale so people who are versed in wildlife history in this country view market hunting in market wildlife and the commodification of wildlife as emblematic of this very repay ships periods in American history. When we pretty much shit the bed on wildlife got it now. We have this new embarrassment of riches. Yeah and people aren't are hunting less and less than they ever did and we have this phenomenon of The urban suburban deer that we really don't know what to do with and so there's this reemerging conversation around. Maybe we should sell all these things or maybe we should open it up where people can sell these things. Because there's so many and people like me look and Man. We view it with deep suspicion deep suspicion. Because it's like you do it three. Of course we'll do it differently. Now there's a there's a apprehension about the minute you can modify while animals now. There's all kinds of exceptions to this. For instance like fur-bearing animals can be modified. Can't sell the meat right but you can beaver you drive a beaver and selby were hide. They'll use to make Wolf L. And when you buy a Stetson 10x hat or go to like sometimes very fine pool table and it's a very fine fell that's made from a beavers hide that a person could buy and sell. You could kill a deer gets head mounted and sell that. Mount can't sell the meat. Do you think that's okay? Being able to sell the firm but not the meat. I'm comfortable with the contradiction because I like the systems. We took different regulatory paths with different types of wildlife and we have different ways of regulating it and you might look at it from afar and might see like well. This doesn't make sense like why. Can you do this? But you can't do that. You can do this but you can't do that. For instance you can Catch a beaver or whatever they say. The mink right trapper can catch a mink. Yeah sell the Mingcai did not utilize the carcass. If you were to kill a duck and not utilize the carcass. That's what and waste so we have a system where we look and be like. What are the things of value on an animal And we mandate wise use of the things that we regard to be value. Right so it's full of things that would look weird like why could a guy trap that you can't shoot a mink as illegal? You can catch me in a trap not eat the meat and that's legal right and sell behind and that's legal but a deer you if you could ditch the Hyde which is normal if you ditch the meat. It's illegal you cannot trap a deer. You can only shoot a deer. How does this make sense? But just like we have this hodgepodge of things that just work variety right. You're saying don't rock the boat because right now it's working really but also don't want to be like a person who just thinks that Everything's static and we don't need to reevaluate things so I'm open to the reevaluation but I'm just saying like when I often hear people who like wild game expressing the view that man wouldn't it be nice And and my initial thing is like Tread lightly you've changed read lightly on the commodification. You've changed you've changed my opinion first of all I thought it was just because of like. Usda like there's no everything has to be that has to be regulated. It adds that adds complications. Yeah there would be additional. But that's.
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"Sheep casing And they'll specify if you go to order casings you'll buy like sheep casings. And they'll specify the the mills right okay. So these where you're looking at here. I believe would be not a hank. I think a hank of casings is enough casings. To case one hundred pounds of sausage really. I think that's what a hank is. Okay could you off something like that? Like a hank. You know a quantity. I can't believe there's a word for that. The this is that's enough casings. Right there to do twenty five pounds of links And they are hog medals in Hog. Metals I believe tend to run like thirty eight to forty two millimeter. Okay hard casings. They'll come packed in salt And what the first step is you. Put them in a colander and rinse them as much as you came out the salt and then you need to basically like your Rehydrating THEM IN WATER. And then you will eventually run a slug of water through that whole casing to rinse out the inside. A buddy of mine. Who DOES WHO has. A restaurant does a lot sharpshooter. He lent his casings. And even that this controversial he'll he'll put a little bit of vinegar in the water to make them even more pliable and workable. But you need to be a better shark. Coutryman her sharpshooter woman to work with the more pliable case. Because you could have blowout. I've never tried to make mount sausage. Yeah I've grounded up. I've I've put in spices but you know I've I've never done the casing. I really I liked to do it. It's labor intensive it's Tedious AT TIMES. We used to do a version of when we were younger. Where it'd be like everybody? We hung out with. What during hunting season you Kinda like. Save up would disable these bags like trim right so you you do a deer and cut steaks and roasts and whatever costs awesome. Buco cuts and you'd never wind up with like chunks of trim if you like just the convenience of having cased sausages in your freezer so sweet Italian bratwurst. Whatever you Kinda we'd say these gallon size ziplock bags of meat. And then we'd have a sausage party data sauces party like everyone comes over with what they're going to do and you just do like one. Big Thing we've even. This is gonNA sound insane. We've had like a bunch of people together and have done like upwards of three hundred pounds of case sausages for like a large group of people everybody's bringing in whatever and we dislike set a date and time in the masses like he can't even begin to comprehend the mass so I as I've gotten older and less mess tolerant and does busier. I'll do small amount. Why did you pick the casing? Over over the sheep. I've done breakfast sausages and sheep casing I dislike I like these better. The ones that made this day were sweet Italian Okita which I made with meat and I will do a variety of things with them including like away. My kids like to have it is. We'll do pasta. Yeah sauce but now does Brown. The sweet Italian sausages and cut them up into chunks. Yeah and put them in there or will you could even if you felt like it. It's Kinda like a little bit of extra work for no reason but I'll break the casing and Saute. Yeah the insides. Yeah that's usually how like I think in Italian restaurant. If you're getting something with a sausage in a pasta they'll take it out of the case or have never case in the first we don't. We made our own hotdogs. Earlier mentioned my friend Guy Seems Matt Winegarden. He's a really cool restaurant in New York and We did allow sausage stuff together. And what restaurant was it. It was called inside park. Okay. does that. That could saints. Saint Mark's cathedral hit a restaurant in there. No Way Yeah interesting He's doing a lot of shark coutry and we made some hotdogs together in those phony like get the NFL thin casing yeah To get the snap of a hot dog is bitch it is. It's like really. It's so hard to make your own hotdogs man but I can make like really good broads. I can make really good links. Yeah so hard. Disappointing you get done in. This is not. I gave up one back into when I retire. Maybe that's so you are you eating exclusively game. Meet these days At home almost. Yeah because we couple things happen. We caught our if we make ground meat or sauces. We cut it with domestic pork. Yeah but this year kind of like a special year the because a buddy he's got a he's got a ranch and he's got a manager that want to buy this giant pig for twenty seven bucks. Okay named beans any fat and the pig on expired horse feed okay so I got all kinds of fat off beans and then a friend of mine Wait hold on a second. He has a pig. He bought a pig for twenty seven dollars. How did he buy for twenty seven dollars because it was a big ask bore and don't have and like no one wants a really and he gave it expired food which is probably buys it for twenty seven bucks and just there is a good thing like when you're packing horses in the mountains in the old days people still do you bring bales of Hay because a couple of things like you might get up in the mountains high elevations in the mountains? There might not be feed. It's wintertime snow on the ground right. Police can't get natural feed. So you bring in supplementary feed but you might also be a situation where you take the horses up in the mountains and just corral them put them out and there's not enough for them to eat so you supplement their food and you could bring in bales of Hay but then in some areas you had to bring we'd certified. We'd free certified. Hey which is hard to get into expensive because you can't be introducing noxious weeds and the Pristine Habitat Right. So they make this. Compressed feed you very. The horses lava tubes. Compressed it's you know it's very densely packed. Just not as much bolck. He had all this expired. Compressed feed that he fat and beans on and then we help them kill beans and he want the fat so we got all. I had a bunch of fat from school and I actually use beans. I was using beans beans the pig when I made this but also a friend of mine raised pigs year. Okay and I bought one from him. Oh Nice so when you say they do. I eat all wild game. We gave a lot of it away. Yeah and I use a lot of it to grind up with my gamy but actually this year is an anomaly because I have like a domestic pig. Yeah but I but I liked the pig because my like I liked the pigs. My friend raised it. That's cool so it feels to me like very game like yeah meaning. I have a very immediate association with it and I sort of get like story. And what matters a lot like the story of things? Yeah like just kind of understanding it right. Yeah so I would view like beans the pig the pig I bought from a friend. You should call it sausage and beans beans. I just viewed as being More Worthy I get that knowing about it. You know so. That's what I used to make the stuff. I've heard you kind of one when you break down on. I didn't know that there's a difference between hunting in Europe and America and I kind of learned from you that the main thing is that there's a lot more public land in America. That's very true and it's a lot harder to get access to hunting land in Europe. You need to know rich guy or something. You got to be a little bit. Care like generalities in all fairness you have to be a little bit careful. Because burr compare continent to a contract. Yeah so there's a lot of places but like our most immediate association would be with Great Britain. You know in the system there are while the system is in many ways a reaction against the system there in the system. There is that The thing that now the Americans understand. But it's cool understand is when you're an American in this country. Wildlife is owned by the people it's managed for you like the the trust is managed for you. Buy Your states in some cases by the feds. Depending if it's dangerous species are migratory waterfowl. The there's a federal oversight so that one st can't like screw another stay right but generally as an American you own wildlife it's managed by the states private landowners might be able to restrict one's access to it but they have no more right of ownership over an animal. The new speaking generally. They're what we call the European model which is like I said greatly informed by you know systems in Scotland Scotland England would be that when you own land and there's animals out of those your animals right if one would move to a property in the next leg it's ownership would change And our systems not like that right one thing though that I think that Europe has over us go on. Is that the restaurants in Europe. Conserve wild game and the restaurants in America can go hunting seasons in France. Where it's like okay. For the commercial market the hunters bringing their food. They sell it to the chefs. And you know you're getting actual wild game whereas in America when you're having venison at a restaurant that's not long game it's farm venison or if you're having you know pheasant. Sam I mean so there's like why is that you think it's good. I think that's having one up on US I disagree. I think it's a bummer. That you can't really eat wild game in America at a restaurant or something and and that it only has to be either you hunted or someone else haunted it that you know. I think I think it'd be great. If more people had access to it. Well gotta understand why that happened. You know how things that'll happen where we lost track of why we lose track of why things are the way they are. So people like to Hack on farm subsidies farmers I get subsidized doing nothing right. But then you look. Why is that the case while I you know during World War Two? There's massive food shortages. People were starving to death. It was hard to like field and feed and army right. We someone we kind of develop. This isn't by like we need to make an egg system that can be turned on and off and there's people like at the ready to produce agriculture and and that when there is a dip in the market or the financial thing happens all the farmers. Don't go need to sell their land and then there's a famine and we can't feed people right so we're they come up with a system where we help farmers stay in business and be in in weather economic trends and keep land ready to to spring into action and produce food and now we bitch about it we bitch about farm subsidies and you know it's like so horrible but as it does the story behind it so with wild game the dark ages of American wildlife or in the late eighteen hundreds early nineteen hundreds and back then all through the eighteen hundreds we had mark. We had commercial market hunters in this country. And I'm not like I'm not going down in making a moral judgment. Uncommercial market hunters. I probably would have been one. But what commercial market hunters did is. He went out. Basically the public like public public resource. Be The wildlife and you shot it and sold it and it was served in restaurants so we all heard stories about people shooting buffalo and leaving the carcass to rot and just taking the tongue because the tongue was worth three bucks wriggled in New York. you know Daniel Boone. I came out of the exact number but he one year process about one hundred and fifty black bears and turned it into smoked. Hams that were sold market hunters drove the passenger pigeon into extinction many of the things we now regard as perfectly Common Mallard. Ducks whitetail deer. Wild Turkeys were driven to borderline extra patient and extinction from satisfying wildlife markets when people in in Teddy Roosevelt's age and people in that era early nineteen hundreds when they looked to pump the brakes one of the more immediate effective thing go after wildlife markets..
"rinella" Discussed on Schoolhouse Rocked: The Homeschool Revolution!
"Earlier kids are registered for score in schools younger age the higher rates of Adhd and that's really interesting so we now have all day public kindergarten though your garden all day and now we're taking it down to go to preschool right we're now putting kids in at four years his own their displays their babies and the rates of ADHD which really just a kid a four year old is Kansas still anyway their bodies aren't made to do that no so the ADHD symptoms drop when kids can get outside and we talked about that before when they lay outside so that's a benefit This is interesting I'm just GonNa read this a Harvey a Harvard study found the in states with a September first enrollment age cutoff children who entered will after just turning five were thirty percent more likely to be diagnosed with Adhd than children born later about to turn six wow it's a thirty percent increase has huge with putting these little tiny ones in school so obviously we we see with a lot of this and I'm not negating Hda the I'm saying Adhd I'm saying that there are ways to help that and and some of these studies show the immaturity is really the real factor not path Allah G so that's a huge benefit that we have if our kids aren't ready to sit all day that's okay we don't have to sit all day we have the freedom to change that Chur and it's not just the preschool kids who aren't ready to sit all day teenage boy just looking a- all kids even me I am not I'm not a super I'm an outgoing person but I'm not a super crazy high energy person right I can't see understood all day it drives me crazy I mean I have to get up every now and then you know if I'm sitting in working and doing stuff at the table I have to get up every probably thirty minutes at least and just move my body I needed grabs snack go outside and get some fresh air something and no one that's made to sit all day every day at a desk and have to focus on what it is that you're supposed to focus on no it's not healthy it's not healthy no so so those there's some of the physical benefits and then the mental benefits are absolutely incredible let's pause just for a second because I wanted totally jump on the men the mental part of it but let's see quick break Chris sponsor and then we'll come back and talk about that learning to write well in order to effectively communicate ideas can be a challenge for many students equipping teacher is and teaching parents with methods materials which will aid them in training their students to become confident and competent communicators thinkers is key the institute for excellence in writing is an organization dedicated to training mentoring and providing a model for teachers in a clear sequential and effective method of teaching writing that Enforces History Science Literature and other content areas our methodology begins with dictated content so rather than sing to a child here think of something and learned to write we actually give them the content and through our nine units gradually wean them from dictated content to that blank pate it through the process of learning to write well students learn how to think clearly and to express themselves eloquently and persuasively for more information or to order the probe Graham I e w Dot Com let's talk about some of the mental benefits of having our kids at home so cool okay so adolescent and eighty depression and suicide declines during summer when they when they look at the statistics so all those things go down in the summer it's it's different for adults and I'm not sure why when they study adolescence all those things then they find that those things spike right at back to school time so that that seems pretty obvious lewisite is more than doubled since two thousand seven then we're just damore the testing the more the requirements but I just find it very interesting that all those symptoms go away in the summer and then bike back up when it's time to go to school that's pretty obvious so a Boston College psychology professor school is bad for children's how that kind of glue my mind colleges are saying this isn't this is a place where kids are going to mentally thrive in the health department and when he says school he's talking about sitting in a classroom all day he's not talking about condemning of course not academics no no no no no laminated because they don t when kids are home with Mama that loves them and their SIM and they don't have to fear of the bullying that goes on it is again APODACA bullying going on in order the programs when I was just stepping out of the school the a huge tot part of our days were spent with an anti bullying program that was being put in because bullying such a problem safety drugs the temptations that are out there that kids have to battle every day a I was a public school high schooler and the temptations that I faced every day just caused severe depression in me I stood for my faith I was able to stand for my faith but it just was a pressure that I wasn't mature enough to handle and so so kids are dealing with that every day constantly having to perform for someone else's and herbs yeah that is a lot of pressure on kids and leads to depression and anxiety anxiety and t means is higher than it's ever been is these kids are having to perform at a standard that is a generalized standard that they don't necessarily it into and it it does make sense because when we remove God's design and plan we end up with these things like fresh because the Bible tells us that the joy of the Lord is my strength and so when I'm sent into a place every day where where will God is there but where I'm not allowed to be taught about God or speaker you know her it's a very dark place to be is a very dark a very dark place and and I know because I was there so and the other thing that you just did a an awesome podcast with Heidi Saint John which was amazing and you guys spoke about something that really let me about how we educate kids collectively as opposed to you know individually and when we're not able to educate the independent individ eight kids as a collective were kind of forcing them into this peer pressure situation in I got to thinking about that when I was listening to you and Heidi bakeware. We're kind of telling kids you have to be like everybody else you need to have the same scores as everybody else you need to learn the same thing as everybody else you need to and then that carries over with leads to okay well then I need to dress like everybody else and act like everybody else in talk like everybody else that have the same gifts and talents as everybody else and the same hobbies and we're kind of shoving our kids into this state of peer pressure and were acting confused as to why there's all this peer pressure yet these kids are trying to be a part of the active that we're forcing them into they have a unique independence inside of them because God made them that way because whether they're believers are not they're still created in God's image so then they have this battle of I want to be independent and I WANNA fight for my independence but I need to be a part of this collective and fit in and you just see but then they want to be a part of the crowd and fit in and it's just an it's an unhealthy thing that you don't really see elsewhere reside besides this setting you know so they they vacillate and not leads to depression and anxiety and bullying and a lot of these social issues that we see because there's way will lead to a much better outcomes so we want to how we want our kids to be able to embrace their unique net yes that's right now the Bible Camaro natural it is it ends up being a mess because it's void of the one that designed it now so of them so the definition of socialization I love the process beginning during childhood by which individuals acquire the values habits and added anyone if you're just getting the attitudes that.
"rinella" Discussed on Schoolhouse Rocked: The Homeschool Revolution!
"The best and we would love for you to enjoy it as well check them out at make create dot com slash s are and make sure to thank them for this week's transcript hey everyone welcome back to the schoolhouse rock podcast in case you didn't hear last week's episode with Abby Rinella you'll want to go back and listen to that when I and she's back on again today and we are talking about the benefits of homeschooling and we talked before about the why of home schooling and willing to that episode that was one we did several go but now we're this is the second part to us talking about just the many many benefits of being able to keep our kids at home and disciple them and the verse that we have parked on for this episode as Matthew Six thirty one through thirty three but really focusing on I thirty three but it starts out therefore do not be anxious sane what shall we eat or what shall we drink or what shall we wear for the gentiles seek after these things in your heavenly father knows that you need them all but seek first the Kim of God and his righteousness and all these things will be added to you so abby welcome back to the show and I am excited to keep talking about this I with you and just the great blessings and benefits of home schooling some things that I love talking about what these things are that are going to be added when we're obedient to God and raising our kids yeah we talked about All the academic benefits all the things that mom's panic about can we really do this academically just how we're seeing The academically home school kids are thriving and talked about all the reasons why so I'm excited to get into a lot of the other benefits of the other things that are added on to us when we choose to obey God's call yes Yep so we we talked a whole lot about with obedience brings blessings and God is it got blessings he loves to bless his children and he nice to hear our prayers and he loves to listen to us as we cry out to him on this journey of homeschooling and parenting and just trying to figure it out and and for myself it has been before you have kids you think you know it all you see other kids and you're like my kid would never do that my kid would never throw a Tantrum in public my kid would never say no to me and then you have kids and you're like Oh so let me take it interesting so universal and the same goes with home schooling and And I think in the beginning I would look at other kids who parents who talk about the struggles that they had with their children but also the blessings of it too but I thought well you know were homeschooling it's going to be different than our house it's going to run smoothly and you know as I had this fairytale and my mind of what it was gonna look like we were going to just have this perfectly scheduled out day in my children I'm GonNa just sit so complacently in their desks and they were going to just do the work that I asked them to do and they were Gonna learn everything the first time and they were not going to argue with me I mean I had this idea ah was gonNA unfold and then I started homes going reality it and and so there are things that are hard about it but in looking back I also didn't get to see all of the blessings that would come from it and so it's been you know ninth year of homeschooling now and it's so amazing to just see how with jared and I haven't been obedient to the call that God his pit upon us to home school our kids and to have them with Stan and day out and disciple in their hearts in training them he has just blessed that beyond belief and I love what is br and we you and I in the last episode we talked like you said about many of those things one of the greatest things we talked about with marriage and sibling relationships and I'm so grateful for her what the Lord has done in our family through those things so so let's let's keep on talking about this what are some of the other benefits that you've seen through the last one that I have seen hugely and I never expected and now I'm so passionate about it is is health we are a family that's really health oriented and I never equated that homeschool would have anything to do with health and it's kind of blown my mind which everybody knows and scientists shown that too much sitting leads to all sorts of issues in Greece of diabetes it kind of slows your brain it actually gives you like lethargic thinking increase of heart disease obesity has tripled since the seventies more people are going to like computer oriented jobs other than more labor jobs so so sitting causes a lot of health issues and so I am when you have kids in a classroom from the day that therefore all the way forever and they're sitting endless hours and it is not good for their health and I am seeing in classrooms now they're trying to do all these creative things like let's say you WanNa Bouncy ball or let's say you WanNa Swivel chair or but we're still sitting on things so that's a huge benefit with home school and we did an episode before on the benefits of getting outside and talk a lot about that about how it's important to get up and move our bodies that's that's when everybody can go listen to kind of the health of that but so aside from just kids being able to move more which helps their brain especially if you have a China static learner but even non learners it helps our brains when we're moving so so in addition to that sleep this is one that is hitting me and I have seen that with health like a lack of sleep brings on illness they've said that like I mean if you're listening to this and your home school mom that means most likely you're you had babies and what it's like to sleep to not sleep for long periods of time and that does affect our health our attitudes are facts you know they say a lack of sleep can lead to depression and you'll lowered immune system and so with homeschool we can let our kids sleep when they need to we don't and and I'm not saying that Martin if you WANNA get your kids up at seven am and start school that's fine but that's your option that's your priviledge that's your freedom to decide how much sleep your kids need and so we run by our own clock in our own home not somebody else's so just the beauty of not having to get my kids up yelling and screaming at them to get dressed I hurry up and shove food down and get him out the door when they're exhausted that can take a toll on a child's health the other thing that just is brand new to me Joel relate to this as when when kids hit that pre puberty old circadian rhythm changes and all of a sudden they're staying up later and they're sleeping Dan right and I did not I didn't see it come in and I have a daughter that's entering into that and she's up late and it's it's not that she's just trying to be up later like her body is is just her whole rhythm is different and and that's a scientific thing that that happens when you're going through those pre puberty so again we can at our kids sleep when they need to sleep according to their body and their season and when they are and when kids aren't tired they learn better and that's something I saw as a public schoolteacher I would have kids that were so exhausted little teeny tiny five year olds come in so higher because they didn't get a nap because now we're doing full day kindergarten right in most states and these kids were so tired and then we expected them to learn and that that just doesn't that's not healthy that's not healthy so the beauty of homeschooling one of the blessings is that physically it's so much healthier yeah and not just kids but for mom to mom having to get up early to get her kids up and ready and out of the house and and fulfill all those responsibilities then mom is tired and and we talked in the last upset about marriage when moms having to get up and she's exhausted from the day by the I'm her husband's home and kids are in bed and now it's finally time.
"rinella" Discussed on Schoolhouse Rocked: The Homeschool Revolution!
"The best and we would love for you to enjoy it as well check them out at make create dot com slash s are and make sure to thank them for this week's transcript hey everyone this is Yvette Hampton and I am so excited to be back with you again today and I'm super excited to have my friend Rinella on with me again as most of you know if you've listened to the podcast for any length of time abby has become just a regular guest on the show but also has really kind of fill the role of being a co host with me and said we are having a lot of fun together getting to talk with home school leaders and and just regular moms and Dads who are in the thick of this homeschooling journey with us and being able to bring encouragement to you so I am thrilled to have her back show with me again today and several months ago we had a great conversation and we did a episode in which we talked about the why of home schooling and that was possibly our most popular episode but for sure it's been one of our most popular episodes and so we talked about all the reasons why we home school abbey I also did another one with current abuse together the three of us talked about the why who and how of home schooling and so on this one we want to take that a little bit further you WanNa talk about the blessings and the benefits of homes going so once people know and understand with their why is we want to talk about the great joy and blessings that come from it and the Versa Abbey I have been talking about a lot is matthew six thirty three and for our family this has become a verse that has been very instrumental us in this amazing journey that God has had on with filming the documentary and even just with life with homeschooling with trying to figure out this whole parenting thing and so and read this verse to you again many of you already know it but we're going to start out with it and it's matthew six it's actually versus thirty one through thirty three is going to read but we're going to focus today on verse thirty three specifically so Matthew six starting in verse thirty one says therefore do not be anxious saying what shall we eat or what shall we drink or what shall we wear for the gentiles seek after all these things in your heavenly father knows that you need them all but seek first the Kingdom of God his righteousness and all these things will be added to you so thank you for being with us today abby welcome back to the show again and I'm thrilled to be talking about blessings of homeschooling with you being Yvette I'm excited to be here always left to be here in share with you as we share our hearts with other homeschool MOMS and this this is one of very favorite while my very favorite was the why the reason that we home school and that episode is available because that is the foundation of everything that we do is is why we home school we don't do it because we want smarter kids or that they go to a better college that they make more money that they're more successful And I think when you look at that verse if we flip flop it we would we would seek all of those things and then we'd fit God into that and that's not what God says and when we're as homeschool moms I think we do worry about the academic accent and are we going to do okay with academics and even though we know that's not the primary thing that we should focus on it is something we look at or many other things that were talk about today but really we we homesick live obedience to God we don't do it for the blessings we do it for a reverence for God and knowing that he his way is always the best and we do it because we're called to do it regardless of the outcome but and like we said we don't we don't obey God to get the blessings but was really awesome when we obey God and there are blessings that's just the truth and what's need is is almost like a trickle down effect when we obey God blessings fall into so many areas and I think of it almost like marriage the reason behind marriage the reason God calls us for Mary it's like a relationship it shows it's an earthly relationship shows us the earthly relationship between Christ and the Church and God created marriage as one man one woman forever but the neat thing as there are trickle down benefits you know there are trickle-down benefits that is so good for our culture it's so good for our families and our kids at someone to grow old and have fun with and help carries life life's burdens but those aren't the reasons we get married we don't get married because we want to have fun with someone we get married because God has ordained marriage and then the blessings common it's a lot like that with homeschool me home God calls us to and that that the things that we're GonNa talk about today and in the next one is not these aren't the reasons or the drive or the motive but they're really exciting blessings and really excited with you to share So leviticus twenty six three ten tells us if you follow my decrees and you care you're careful to obey my commands I will send you rain in its season and the ground will yield its crops and the trees their fruit and then luke eleven twenty eight as Jesus said last rather are those that hear the word of God and obey no when we hear God's word that says we're at a teacher and train our children in righteousness and that we are to be their primary education that we are to teach them his ways when we rise and when we walk when we answer that call when we're obedient and all these other things that we're going to talk about are added so that's really exciting but we just went encourage the moms don't get it backwards always seek first God attorney then things will be added yeah that's right for those of you who are listening to to this if you have not yet listened to that episode that we did on the why of home schooling will link of course in the show notes you can go back and maybe even pas this one for a few minutes go and listen to that one know what your why is and then come back in and listen to this one so so let's let's talk about this and you talk about the the blessings that obedience brings we often we've talked about this a lot on the podcast you and I have talked about this and that we tell her all the time sinn causes pain obedience brings blessings and when we are obedient to what God his call this too there will be blessings in that and that does not mean that things will always be easy and that it's just GonNa be smooth sailing because we know we live in fallen sinful world and things are hard I'm this is a pretty difficult world that we live in but it's it's a different kind of hard it it's it's different than the difficulties that come because of our sin and in difficulties that come you know just because we live in a world that's full of sin so I wanted I want to clarify I'm not saying and I know you're not saying that any person who has their child in school and doesn't homeschool your sinning that is not for us Judge that is that is not our heart behind schoolhouse rocked our heart behind schoolhouse rock to the podcast the movie The blog everything that we do is to encourage quit people to be able to homeschool into with excellence because if God's called you to do it he's going to quip you to be able to do that and so we want to come alongside you and be able to do that so so I just wanted to clarify that but we talk about you know being called in I know sometimes I struggle with that because it not being called but it's sneeze lingo that we use gone call us to do this so really quickly can you clarify when you say Eh God called you to home school got his S. two homes go what do you mean by that I would say it's God's way is asked God has a best design and when God designed God designed us to be parents and he laid out in his word as to what it means to be parents he gave us directions to go with that would that would guide us to be the best parents.
"rinella" Discussed on The EVRYMAN Podcast
"And um yeah yeah we got we got a a handful of reservations coming in so it's exciting as screaming and i have this isn't too intrusive with did did you leave a mediator sorta end that career path to put everything into everyman yet will not that is good um it is a good question it i so i was i was out hair's executive producer of of uh an office out here for the company that makes aga i had not been working directly on mediator for about a year before that had been working on a film with steve rinella an and been working on developing other shows and other projects and uh it was a it was a mix i head in a in a couple months about a year in three months ago were so i had this sort of like i said earlier this monster voice inside of me that started tiv i started feeling pretty intensely i needed to to make so i had started writing articles and i had sorta sort of put myself out there in in the capacity of whatever men does now and it i mean to be blunt it really just didn't work very well with the position that ahead in yet was a part of me very much was wanted to be a not creating the show but the one that i want to tell my own story not other people story the end um so yeah it like it literally year ago m stepped away from that and a stuck on for a while and and help produce a film in the.