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#TSP062 - Jacob Anderson
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It can be anything that can be ready small. It can be massive whatever the podcast means to you. Why get on a design to Asia? The best one wins a notion who's gonna judge liberal pass gas STA judge yet are might be nice. I. Right. Past present guest episode, sixty two we went to London we went through all of Lillo cafe in grey, straight bigshots Mace on Butto and Tanna they're helping us out, and we met with the very lovely Jacob Anderson, or you may know him as Riley Richie either way. I think you really gonna love this episode. It's funny. I spout J few days ago. Just making sure it was cold with the episode, and he said listen back to it. He's in a very different adds spice to he was why he was a few weeks ago where we recorded it. I don't wanna say too much. I think you'll understand once she listened to the episode self. It's it's very very honest. This is episode sixty two of the to show podcast with Jacob Anderson. Let's see it end. How's it going? Are you good? I'm good. I'm glad together at last hour which S four lease sex lease. So. Walk came first for you. Because this is the first time I've spoken to somebody who's got who's constantly kind of wearing to ATs and the industry. Yeah. So what came first was it the music or the acting? Israeli where I've got like this long convoluted. Contradictory origin story. In that like. Music was the first thing that was like this is what I to do for job. Yeah. And then I did like I went to like acting groups as off occasionally when nothing. Yeah. Yeah. I think are just like. It was a good way of expressing like getting spied energy out getting out. Yeah. And I'm an assault much teacher. It was kind of like I sense that I can draw. There's no desks says nothing to sleep one. Kinda slept Frisco. White yoga say say you were those years goal. I wasn't Lazier. Just I didn't feel feel engaged. I fell. Felt like it wasn't for me. It wasn't really. In a way that no one was kind of speaking to you or nothing speaking. Yeah. I think it's like the things I was really interested in already engaged with into English a lot like writing reading words, I like music by didn't like music lessons. I hate the like theory of music because you have you obeying soft policed in musical environment. You connects press what you wanted to do. Yeah. It was more stuff being forced upon you. Learn the history of baroque music, and I was I know how that relates to me. Now, I can listen to I listen to classical music, and I'm like, this is beautiful gonna put Marvin things with school. You kind of you get given context. I gave it to context about the about where you're listening to like listen to this piece of music and then analyze if five minutes and tell us why is important and why change the face of music. K fray and environment, grow and learn I suppose things you know, you saying about now you can look back on classical music, and you get something from it with oh cost things dot com from maturity is well known. Brett, would you? Did you did the the one thing for me? That was like the real two point. I guess was the I spend lunchtimes in the music block. It was like a Moscow they had had like a bit more money to put. Arts and sport. So there is this block that had like chew base your head of Cuba. Production software, but they had their keyboards. And I spend time in the media room making beats often plane most about the piano, you're you're you're at time to express yourself. Yeah. But I didn't. Basically when you have to pick your GPS's that time came about a music teacher chronic didn't want me to do music because she could tell that wasn't engaged in that kind of intellectual. Yeah. If you chose music for GCC, you got access to the music, look a lunchtime soda lost access to that space. If I hadn't done it c- gosawx played a game, a better. Yeah. Bargo in EMU's IKA. What she saw on. What you do for a living now? Yeah, we're in Bristol way. Yeah. Whereabouts. Can you tell from my strong Bristol boy? I live now not far from Bristol. I'm in Gloucestershire. Okay. I'm sorry. I'm Ness droughts for my thirty minutes from bath. And Bristol on bristles. Always struck maize considering this eight years to African of been knocking about. Always going off. There's always is very crazy. If say that when when you were there. Yeah. Yeah. Like, I think it was in the sense the. Nobody ever. There was never any chronic lack resistance to to like so create if being a job or been something like you're allowed to not work. If those. If you're a creative person, then just gonna be crazy. If live your dream do have you want healthy thing is great. But at the same time, I think like most people about I'm a walking cordination like. I kind of energies great. But to me when I was there at felt unstructured it felt like it was like to make music for people in Bristol. And there's like a scene in Bristol Bristol or Somme always like more. I'm basis than I think, and that's not to say that people in Bristol on I'm basis. No. But I felt like that was a teenager. I don't show when you're growing up in a certain place. It doesn't matter apart from if you're in a huge say Bristol, my felt very very small either you growing up in the time, and I love your tastes. And I'm visions to solve grow especially with specials that connection without Bristol music insane always has an stella's now. Maybe that wasn't speaking to you at that time. I resisted it. Right. Really? Yeah. My dad's was friends with like, the must've tack people. He puts had like thank you grew up with them. So that thing I we saw parents thing trae thing like, oh, thus Liaquat won't hurt this to onto that layer, certainly speaks to people of a certain is done that that, you know. I remember. Massive attack implores her plan open, then where from other from Bristol Bristol solve from that. Even now like star so stuff like Turkey. Snow sounds like revolutionary. Yeah. I was just like, no. That's not me, especially if he's as it's like a book, and it was passed down from some. To find my own of path on my own type. Yeah, I gotta I got speaking about your parents. What did they do for living? Moi mum. I'd they're both chronic people. Well, I've got three parents on the play like, I'm I'm a chart of voice. So my yeah, my mom and dad had different kind of jobs. They just kinda gone from things things. They've as I've grown up Mormon worked at one point. She worked in like. Merch for PE Gabriel's by a label. Yeah. And she did like. Inflatable things, you know, you see at festivals and stuff you see those. Yeah. Big inflatable sculptures. Yeah. Did that for years my dad's has worked for social services? He works security for many years. Eighty. Or at least plasterer, right? That's like that. She's trait trying to work out where the crate from us comes. Times. Sometimes it just comes from fucking Noah, sometimes it bleeds down because you know. Yeah. I don't know. Must have lost jobs as well. Got to youngest this year. Yeah. I I don't know where it comes from really like. Dad's very passionate about music. He's very passionate about music. So he introduced me to stop quite young that nobody else. Resolve listening to of my age. We kinda like I feel like feeding. Yeah. Yeah. I feel like I was always to some degree like encouraged. Two two. Like follow wherever it was. I was interested in with some exceptions. Yeah. I don't know where it comes from. I do I think your point about Bristol. There is think that thing does feed into people that like. He's a mix. There's Bristol's very much about mixing and matching different coaches to make adding and I think that's definitely like bled into. Bled. Into me somehow. Yeah. Like, my my parents they will create in their own way. Like, I I never think creativity is just about like if you writes off four year act to you sing. Yeah. I think you can be crazy. If in any field of work, you know. Absolutely. I think it's just encouragement, I suppose that what whatever you whatever is Cray is inspiring. If I can't pasta wall to save my life. Boy, if you're come and show me how special and oh I'm getting inspiration from that. That is an artist like the way. Cost is wars beautifully. I need really takes pride in his work. Like when he. I've seen some of his work and not the first thing about I labored firm for a little bit. But under the first thing about plastered, really. And I can see that. He's ready. Great way does. And that and I think he's I think is like you take pride in things that you oppression about and care about. Yeah. I think that's what creativity is, you know, it's like putting energy into something you care about. Do you find it personally when you do? A lot of an immortal can about the music. Now, do you put a lot of love and care, and you especially in music because you know, when you're at ten there's only so much control off because you're reading from somebody else's scripture when you're creating your homework, and you in all that loeven cat and. In you. Don't get back. What you feel you should get back. Is there an expectation? John eloquent enough. You say, you know, what I'm saying? Yeah. I think I don't have a strong expectation of what happens on the other end. Like, I think the way I make music is really selfish. I think I- selfish way like it's like an Xs. And for me, that's like kinda come to that realization recently. That's like if the things that are holding me back away or finnemore brain. And there are manageable things if they if like if my outlet is to write a song. I'm getting as much of that stuff out of my head and put it into his own. I'm like, I'm transferring the energy, and it doesn't mean won't come back. But. Whatever the energy is not day is if I've done if I've been honest and of dumb Weiss out to do then it's gone by the end of the session by by the time not songs finished for me. I'm like it's done for of been trees moso. Yeah. Honest. A now have made something positive out of something really difficult. But that doesn't mean that I get the biggest sense of like the other end of it. When I do shows I want to do live shows St. people because you get back. Yeah. Yeah. It's like direct to see people singing. Song as a really like really personal things about your in the thoughts like to me that makes me feel less lonely. Right. And that's the thing that are already out of on the other side. But I don't have an expectation of like people have to listen to this in this way or this time will fail us. Yeah. Yeah. I do have a hope at least in hindsight. When a finish the song that I hope this helps somebody is some way that feels the same way as me, even just a small fact one. Yeah. Something of what you're yeah. I hope it helps them with their Xs. Yeah. Put in excess of into as it's like, no. And you said a few times about personal things that personal things that are honest. Do you feel that when you right? It has to come from a place of truth and honesty, and you impersonal to connect with the music because that would that would solve connect with the actresses the half the out in maybe in a hate in way food for me. Yeah. For me. I definitely think. So for other people, I don't think it has to be that. But I can tell when I haven't been on his last. That's funny sows and next thing I was going to talk about because sometimes if you you know, it's like. You know? It's like when you're acting. Yeah. No. I don't buy that. I believe it. I mean is it the same when you you write something write music? Yeah. Yeah. You can tell mmediately. Yeah. Yeah. And I hate is. I hate to kind of put almost aren't to put this out into the world. But. Because I don't think it when I say is. I'm not to anybody that is making music or making some don't want to put this like thing on them to be like, oh, we'll I'll do this way is. I think there's like a is a really unfair. Thing that happens when people talk about something they've made which is the comes across it being easy. And like. I think. I think it's really important to be honest about the process of making something and how difficult it was last year. We went and did like two weeks in this farm just to write for the album and like every day. I wrote down how the day gone because I was like I don't wanna forget when Nissan's will finish them published. I don't wanna forget how hard it was. Sometimes I wanna forget the forty five minutes of silence when I couldn't think of anything because I feel that that would be a lie would undermine hopefully the truth of wherever saying, but yeah, I can tell I mostly the songs the most comfortable with most happy over this in my coffin because he's just come. Yeah. But it does fall of your put that because it comes from a place truths, surely. Yeah. Exac, that's the thing is that will happen. If you telling the truth. Like, I think that if somebody is passionate enough about Hoover's, they could write a song about a Hoover and somebody else in the world would be like, I know exactly you're talking about feel exactly the same. Exactly. Yeah. Like. If you con- saying or you can't like you don't have to. Traditional big acrobatic voice, lack if you made it then you'd be wrong, if you maintenance if you can sell it and someone's going to buy I cry crude whites room, I'm talking about. If it comes applies the truth, and there's connective between you and that other person, whatever it may be definitely. And you talk about I mean, that seems a lot of pressure know, we're gonna have two weeks going to be in his bomb. Do you come with pads stuff or you go? Let's see what falls out over the two weeks. What if nothing sticks of tried to be prepared vegetables that that's not the way the work that he's a whole new thing? More time, I speak to seventy different musicians, and everybody's journey to get right in the album war is just my blankly so different just like talking to anybody else. An or an artist or a power this refer. So the why? So you don't put that pressure on yourself all the time every everytime guards the studio. I'm like I put so much pressure especially off the lie being in the second album mode. I'm constantly like measure myself against everything else out. Right. Okay. I think that's kind of what rise block is. Maybe or at least it's to me. Like that is is the process of Dowling yourself every so feting is. Yes is like which is which is really hard a more. We all do it and the times when repulsively should do it. But I personally think it's no when to when. When not for that, selfies. And of course, you are going to do make comparisons. I mean. The first album. Did did very well. And you I'm sure obviously your plays with the quality and honesty of the songs sometimes. Right. You know, if you go into an audition image, just we'll just cross the streams and go over into the. I need to really good audition. But then he got the job. Are you thinking our what are you can you that too bad or you making comparisons with how you on that day or I'm just trying to get some power? Dell's between not on the music, you know, I. Afflicted with with thing of like, of course, I didn't get it because I'm not good no via. Okay. Like, I never thought I deserve the single job. I've ever got of never. Yeah. I've I've ever had that feeling of like. Yeah. Deserve to be. So I don't I never have a sense very often addition if I'm Wellard north just Latin. I'm just going to do it. Trauma? Best try make it seem like the way somebody would say this to you. It's yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But let's let's go back to keep jumping around the timelines. My life is I twelve conversations like a structured interview questions and answers. There's this this this this isn't that you know. You know, I. To leave in school. Did you have the plan? Together outburst. All that point. Oh, when did you feel the I I think if I'm being ready on his I've just come from therapy? You've got like a very raw. Noble. To be honest. I kind of have to get out of Bristol of. We don't have to talk about anything that you don't know about. No, I'm I'm happy to talk about I'm happy to talk about because I think honesty's important as comedy working for the moment is that like especially in terms of if if anybody else can. Convert late something that maybe helps them in some way. Yeah. But like I was depressed at the end of school. And I didn't know it. I can only put that language to it now. But yeah, I like, you know. I go to SE's. I almo friends it like, Don ready. Well, they were like as law student. Yeah. So I felt complete our cost are ready kinda like I spent most of my school time out cost myself and just making sure that I was like cool with everybody. And. Pretty effective when I came out, and I had no idea what was going to do a new. I wanted to make stuff by didn't know, what there was nothing that really told me that there was a job where I could do you like why enjoyed about drama y enjoyed about music. Yeah. But what I did do. And now think about even know how managed this by a think it was like ten page script and send it to the head of. This course, Bristol college. He's media moving image, right? See I mean is it's not a very linear thing. I'd also just started to like fall in love with films, right? Okay. Really different ways. How does it? When I was a kid. I was like I used to write reports from like for why we should go his films. I'll be like it's rated PG. This lang. By reason, these times, this is why I think like, I should see this film. So I always loved films in that way. But then there's one night we went to blockbusters secret window that Johnny that Stephen King adaptation. He's always do square owes enough. Anyway. And then we also got eternal sunshine of the spotless mind. Which like I love Jim Carey when on garden up. Yeah. Remember guards with my mom. And there was this Jim Carrey film. I couldn't go see because I was too young. Yeah. And her friend had just been sit. We said it was amazing. So we went to blockbuster spider. And I was I I wonder what style one I wasn't. I was fourteen permanent. Yeah. We weren't secret window, and then my mom went to bed, and I stayed off worst eternal sunshine. I'm mind just like exploited. Yeah. I had no idea that anybody. I didn't know you could do this and the end of the film. I watched it from the talk to drag joy away. Yeah. And. That was the first time. I was like I would quite like to make films. I think I think that's what I wanna do. I like I could incorporate music I didn't ever really feel confident to say I like to write by didn't want to be like in front of anything. I didn't want to be like in front of abundance stage or one of a cameras spotlight is bizarre of ended up doing both. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. I was I want I want to be a filmmaker because that's why we're the script sent into. This course when inference view, and even though it didn't have to seize on aided. The head of dot co said if anyone drops out, of course, you got place. Yeah. And how did that make you fail? The. Because at the time personally thing, you weren't feeling great at all. No. So then some Bray giving you an opportunity and opened the door for you. Yeah. Did that help in any way? Within you. That was that was positive every positively commend it. Probably did. Yeah. I don't exactly remember. How felt that time about the cause? I was just really glad that was something I could do because I was starting to run out of icon. I'm not gonna get into a year the. Yeah, I'm not gonna get into college. A definitely going against the former school like how to job and I love my job. I worked virgin megastores. It was great job ever a loved. It got to be around the things I loved. So I was kind of like, you know, I'm happy to stay there and keep working there. But. Yeah. This was a different route. And I went. We started talking about like film school in like the choice of Garth foam score, you didn't necessarily half the have the grades college. If your work speak for you. Then you could go to those places. Yeah. Lasted two terms. Why? I was slightly. Remember this wrong. But. Open auditions for TV short. And I was still a secular before college, right? Okay. I addition for the TV show didn't get part in it. But it costs directors like would you be interested in? Acting is I think that you would like to do was I know I wanna. Do the other thing I wanna ride. I don't want to. I want to write and direct. And she was like, well what better way to learn? How to make stuff the beware they make things. And so yeah. So that was kind of happening in the background nothing really capable. I think addition for likes agents, whoever. Going to college. And then. Got cost in doctors. Right. Right passage. Yeah. 'cause slot actors, wrapping. Yes. Did that? And then I will cost in. Phone could out which was not that didn't have I feel like what happened was the director hadn't directed anything yet. So UK film council as it was cool. But yeah. They needed a test that they needed test footage basically had to shoot a scene. So I was the finance got cost in not essentially about cost to do that seeing. Short. That was wasn't sure is going to happen. Maybe may I was like they're not gonna ask feedback. I did it by job. Six months go away. I'm at college kind of like, I'm enjoying. I'm getting into Florida. I'm like, this is one of their wanna make films acting things. Maybe not. Like, Mark cooling. You're dependent on what you're trying different things to see what the best option is. No saw during this whole on him. I went to this think was shooting seven, my friend told me go to which was basically just this woman kiss him wrote just gawk club on a Thursday night. And you could you write a song? And then you perform it to the kids, and they critique you Meyer. Sahar harsh way. Yeah. Yeah. And that kind of built up my confidence. And then I started in this guy started band, and we like would play in shorts. Doing news is well, how did you going up there for the first time too terrified? But that's that's kind of what studio seven did. For me. Was it like gave me the confidence? There's nothing scarier than like stunning off in front of your peers them. No, no, no, no. Once you've done that. Yeah. And and that was kind of what gave me the thing. Like oh. Like, I'll alright I can sing I sing as well. But like I do under a seat in Madeira quietly and just do it because it's my I learned very young that just right and stuff down was the most I didn't talk to people when I was a kid. I didn't talk to anybody about where my head was at. So my name couldn't that point. Yeah. Yeah. Because also you you're a teenager. Yeah. They don't we didn't know. No words are the right in my exercise books. What was their of songs all little just mail it? She just writing the how felt that day. It was a diary, and it was therapeutic for you to do that. Because nothing for you. Yeah. So as an all of this stuff at the same time cost film, or in the teaser for it, six months, Corey by a did an extra the Bill, and I did this of a show could the whistle blowers will endeavour and. And is fine. I could just go and do them and combat college. They let me go off to do that. Because they could see why helped the F and then. Email from my agent, say and. They want you to do the film and he's like next month. I was I just I'd already convince myself that was gone. And so yeah, I went into that. And then that kind of that was the beginning of it just never stopped off to that. I feel like such dick being like, oh just just worked to work to work after that. And. Never intended to. And it's not that. Like, I did like it. I I loved it already enjoyed always the same from a. Yeah. Harry on. I think is the for me acting is does the opposite for me. The want music daughters. Takes me out of my head. Right. A completely removes me for my own brain, which I don't feel like I have control over. Whereas if I am not a have a level of control over presenting somebody else. Okay. I don't have to be myself for that time. I'm days, and he's really good for me. It's therapeutic and his own way. And I think in a way. Yeah. Exactly. Yes, I dropped out of college. Because I was like I'll. If I keep acting, and it's already love it. And it was up to London. Like always addition in as well like sometimes I coach from Bristol at like five AM to get to a nine AM. Cost in. Yeah. Donna, why didn't just ask if they could move it. I didn't know you could do. You know as I regularly doing a. Just. Yeah. I love London. It was we fade away from like those stuff going on horrible. Like, I just I had to gal. Bristol just can't reminded me the eye. Was lackey. Whereas in London, I could hide a bit more. And I could it could be just bearing unanmous. Yeah. He's gonna walk down the street and bump into people enu. Yeah. Again, and why did you fail you needed to start gun and tell me if we don't we don't need to go places. You don't wanna go. Like, I say every important. Yeah. But. It's a combination of things like. This stuff that now realize about then when I was growing up. I'm like that's not that wasn't. Okay. That situation wasn't. Okay. Okay. You know, like, yeah. This things. The will happen in just wasn't. It wasn't a necessarily good advice wasn't helping my mental state already already a bit. Shaken. But instead of yeah, I feel like London was kind of like. Is bill. I run in a way, I guess I was running away to something job, and I had a purpose. And I had. I was learning and I'll just ask people questions just ask directors and and like. Camera apart department Stockham questions about those you running away to the big city instead of having. No, so of clear path there was a safety net there because you had were you as you say you were running away, but running to something. Yeah. And then doubled up like I did sessions when I was here like music sessions to meet producers in London, I like, it was just oh, I come realizing right now, the I haven't not live constantly been trying to distract myself from myself by doing stuff like making music and songs like trying to films, and TV ideas and an acting and Dennis then just trying to like distract my bring a half, the keep my brain distracted. Because when it stops when I'm not distracted gar into like a meltdown. Even when I've got lots of stuff guards of it. So he's like says castrates. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So London was like, I could write music I was acting which I really enjoyed. It was taking me out in my head. And I was getting free film school as I saw. Yeah. Yeah. Of course, we learned on every set. Yeah. Two different page. Yeah. And and then kind of. Yeah. That was it. And then it got to a point when I was. Eighteen nineteen when. I started to realize that I was doing. And when I say this annul of accusation to this choice. Please know that I understand the privilege of being able to say this. Yeah. By style to realize that. I was doing for money. Was kind of unhappy. They didn't want to be doing. Yeah. Because I was like I love films. I love TV. I love storytelling. But why would I be in things? I wouldn't watch any money does most actors listen to this now. We'll be able to relate coach, you know. Yeah. I did do that. And I put mine up I've done it only only once or twice I've done that. I didn't make me so unhappy like I would go very like desperately desperately sad. And it was the only time our I don't think I can do this because this is connect to this. What I'm doing is not not asked to of important for. It's not true for believing. Like, it just says she back brings you down. It's not it's not good. It's not healthy. At all. I think of course, the unique. We all need to vote got bills to pay fruits part on the table. So of families, you know, it's we have to do something. But we saw as maze into it does relative. It doesn't it doesn't mean that you're on grateful if you feel like that. But like I do understand the value of. Being on a set or being on stage or like doing something that you love even if the. Specific thing. Is mean you love you can find something in it. Hopefully, you can find McKinney. The you're like, oh that's already trying. Yeah. I'm not in the best situation. Personally, I would like to professionally that would like to ban hill personally because you bring yourself to it. I've caught find some don't find something to help me. So get through I suppose on the other side now with the music, you're not doing things. You're doing things that you don't believe important a situation in a way, the lack of control that you might get sometimes they act in. You've got pretty much adult now in the music business. You've got pretty much full control certainly about the output. Yeah. Of of your of your music shortly for me. There was no output into like, I just did it for myself really for most of the time. I kind of just it was just right. And songs was just thing. I did to to how did it change them? When did it change? A concerted effort for you to go. No would need to have done this for me. I love doing this for me. And I want to carry on during this me. But I'm kinda wanna step it up. Okay. Yeah. Another sort like turning point in Bristol was the I am. As a son. Excise fine. Well. Just put your bless you. Yeah. Another was a studio seven you'd get petits sometimes to go in open for you be like you'd be on at six as the doors were open in for like different people. Right. And I open for this is Terri Walker your love and my now manager used to run buzz and he run that bar and he wanted to quit and start. Dmiti management. He contacted me when he contacted Kizzie. And then I my mom to me because I was I was under eighteen and used to drive me up to sessions and stuff. So I'm saying before I say, my manager did this because just be like wet wedgie get manager for but. I even make music just for me. And I I would put it. I wanted to put it out by had no real like desire to sign to a label or anything. It was like on just be quite nice. Just put it up and have it there for people to listen to if they want to take or leave it. Manager. Just made like some demos public on soundcloud and. Publish a hold of it publishes diet to send it to other people. And then all of a sudden manager got a load of phone calls and emails from labels. And like, would you? Let's come in for me. This happened around the time. The I slide to be like. A need to love. I wanna keep loving acting. Yeah. But not because I'm just doing this for the sake of doing it. Yeah. I was also I did play for a year. And it was just a year for a year long time. Yeah. And I hate it. It was not the right thing for me to do. I was miserable. I was depressed. Again. I was like. Self medicating being just being like. Very self destructive, very destructive place. Yeah. I just realized I wasn't finding joy happiness in anything anymore. And so. I started meeting labels obscene not gonna signed to major label. They still your music and then. You're worried already I to just be able to make why wanna make a make him ended up. Very again on with. People at Columbia. Dish in for a few things by kind of like slow down a little bit is the first time. I started. Addicts. And this is the first time I started to turn down or dishes. Not because I was in a position to financially or no. Or like, you know. But just because I was like if I'm gonna do something I love doing I have to go in and just do things I love, even if the how I try at least if the happiness is is taking a battering one-sided career and the other side of the career is fulfilling obvious, then jumped ship and go with the one that's so fulfilling everything choice. So like, I was just writing love songs of that time 'cause I was miserable. Yeah. And that was like the only way to get out early way. Get out my system. Still to is still a way to get out your system even now hundred. Columbia. Yeah. I realized I like I'm skipping a my skipping years. A have memories like very weird works, very non linear look. We do this. We jump on time all the time. You know, you've heard someone focused slight. It's great. That's very unstructured conversation. I like. The other thing that happened was the kind of the most important thing. Now was met my girlfriend. He's also an actor, and I always buy file work at the same time when we first met, right? And so we had this like beautiful run up, and I started to feel better. And I started to come back from that place that I was in. And that also I think it was another thing that charge me to be like, nah, go for love. 'cause love is mazing. Our love with something is the best feeling new funding, not joy back in your life. Yeah. The dennis. How was that offers? They help him with the depression that get you out of to a certain extent. Yeah. To certain extent. Like at the time kind of absolutely by thanks. Realizing about. Depression and anxiety in mental health is the. Really does come from within. You can't you can't just build stuff over it to fill especially when it comes from like, you know, for me like it goes back to like. Eight years old or something like it's just plastered over the cracks. And yeah, you know, they'll they'll resurface. Yeah. Or I get comes back. Yeah. You can't build like a fancy pilots over dodgy foundations now you have to go back and fix nowadays Asians exact load for a couple years. Intend to share? Sinkhole. Yeah. Exactly. Yes. I did a few bases acting to music. And then just as I was like, no, I'm just gonna just even just this year was going to concentrate on right music and trying to get a place. I'm really happy with them. Like, I wanna listen to this music. Signed the deal with Columbia or greets. I'm gonna do it. That's why not it's like distribution. They'll put my music out. They said to me, they're not gonna mess with it. Right. We was going to say we worried about people coming on board. And you lose any sort of control. I see I'm a I'm a control freak. Yeah. I like I. Yeah. Complete control. How many pay? It's you know, you're looking at one right now. And I make no bones about it and anybody that knows me. No, those I am anyway, just about over the years as a manifested itself. Very well. The you know, as you go along the road, you learn when to sightings, not say things and how to approach things just learn all the time though. I mean you. Apologize for all the time. Araya? Okay. Isn't just just everything's learning. Covers Koos older that you got mature. You got going on? Yeah. So the trust was there. Yeah. I I'd say there was like it was seventy percent trust. Okay. Can't give everything. No. No, you're gone. But. You're gone. I'm on I'm on the bus one day. And I'm literally like a few days away from sinema dough, by the way, I read kill your friends the week for someone else cheaply. Wow. Go move. Even now, why did I do that? Thank you. I thought it was like a factual away kind of is kinda. Yeah. I mean of someone always people. It would not surprise me. Yeah. Yeah. Mellow thing. Even I might be wrong thing, even John Nevins come out and himself gone. Yeah. We used to work in. Yeah. Yes. On the bus on my Asian kouzmines. She's like so that they want you to being refers. They've cost you got the part. And I was like. Beg your pardon. Wrong wrong line. I think it'd be like a really long time. I think like I do dishes for like two three months before not just thought I thought it was gone. So yeah, I ended up getting Gema fines and. Inside a Modell at the same time. Also. I just on broad church. And this thing we've our mutual friends caring hawks, and no my school, hotly. Terry one could mimic which was like for me that was the job that made me excited again by thing about like maybe wanna garner additional for foreigners and do us because it was like the felt like I was working with friends on something that we really cared about. And I don't think anybody watched it necessarily. But I did we work with like minded people. Not so called great environment. This all play and be free judged. I'm really nurturing. Yeah. You know, like Joe Harley just that women just she's such an important person to me in when I look at that time of my life, her rank here and his old. So yes, I was just as I was like starting to be like, oh, yeah. I remember I love this. Now, I signed it down to a major label, which is like they are. They only. So what make you do because you got these? So what was on the what was on the table? So you. Was the game of thrones. And there was signing with the label. Fill already short. Maybe the mimic came off the rachi. Basically, a con- sign any kind of our couldn't side any kind of ocean when I was signing. Right. But for his when when offered an option there were lot we don't this car. It's much being episodes. We probably will be a few episodes. If you could you could do that. Yeah. Yeah. But obviously, there was an element. I think where they were like how are we supposed to like? Establish you as a musician. If you're in like, one of the wasn't quite as big as is now the by then, but like like how I was thinking at all as I don't think anybody would take me seriously as right? Right. Which I care about less now by the time I did already did care about like what people would think perceptions and what kind of stock. That's so funny. You said it all came in the same time. Can I do it? And I ended up trying at least to do. Another dot go. Per for within you. I'm not talking about the the outcome. I'm just talking about the person or the outcome. Artistically the outcome personally. Yeah. How'd you hard to deal with I loved a love for love the mimic? The labels situation was. It was a good thing. So it was like a have a now have an outlet outlet. I can now. Like unleash with these songs. I've just wanted to my chest. And they they still kind of just lived in my own little world. And now they can go out. Can release the birds, of course, that can that can be what they want to be too many different people. Exactly. Yeah. Probably be different to so many people. Yeah. But yeah, are worried would I am about like knows could save me. Seriously. I I was I begged label to just let me because I was going to go into like ac- then because that's why I always done back. Yeah. So like, I said I said, it's the lay will please just let me do this. As like a mosques thing like just start release any press. Fires me or anything. That's just put the music out. And just have it be that kind of trying to work out while I was running the Hake. How am I gonna do this? I just I just need to just hide. And also because the songs worst person. I was scared. I was like I don't know if I want to give this the Hawaii's you'll really putting yourself out there all your personal stories from your heart. So out not must be ready nerve rock, then it's not like in upon stage a garden in front of a camera. No. Because also, that's the if you're if you're doing those things somebody else somebody's not I daily someone's not looking at you. Someone that looks like you buy complete. Present course. So yeah, it was very exposing. Bothers you something that you needed to do. Yeah. Yeah. I didn't need to somebody book. She can fell without letting now can never full enough. Put. Well, I say that. But like I said I've had like pretty severe like right block and exhaustion. I think recently, it's his first came out. But yeah, the label thing wasn't a good marriage. Like you can't go into for. You can't go into any relationship with three or four level like lays of God's up. If I had that third thirty percent of guarded nece. I had is enough for it to not be a good relationship. And I think we wanted different things. They saw me as one thing. Yeah. I saw myself another thing, and we both just kept going till it was too late. And then we're like just fighting over which was going to be which ultimately, I I one. You didn't fail you will compromise. After all that. No. Things that I'm pay about like the mix. I'm not happy with the mix of my first album. But I don't think most people necessarily noticed that it was think like this like a video one video. I'm sick you lot a hay. And doesn't doesn't represent who? I want get out. But but yeah, they they to be fair to them. They were supportive, and then not they went bad people. I was very cagey with them. I didn't trust the industry and the more went into it the more. I was kinda like, oh, yeah. I am a product now by the I want I don't want to be a product. I wanna be something else. So yeah, it was just a bad merge. So how did that change was a conscious decision to change? Because obviously, you were contracted. I was dropped. Are you a draw? I was drugged. Yeah. Like. A year and a big at eighteen months ago. So please change of some how long after the album. Say about nine months, but they haven't did well critically. It wasn't it wasn't. It wasn't really about that. I mean for one the expectation for is is really high right Mejia's? Like you have to you know, if you don't break talk ten talk twenty then that wanna fade. That wanna buck ause C Kriss, numbness emails more about this than either the music. But yeah, it was like, basically, the the people that sign me the person. That's I me left the company, right? The new guy that came in didn't wasn't interested in continuing with me. But. But. Maybe this feels like I I'm speaking of contracted to not say any of this. But like, so I've always felt like. It was it was. I felt like I had been wearing like way it close for four years. Yeah. And then it was somebody just instantly. Taken more often said just go run. Like, it was it was I didn't know being dropped could be Sasha positive thing. I think there's I grow stigma. In that that term what? And being dropped interrupt. Yeah. And this is really weird because a lot of ice dropped Fennell reason. And he's like the people's opinion of of an honest, but amazing that you saw it was also that it fell free and thing there. Compromised. You've been pushed him pulled about. Yeah. What it was? I just felt like everything was a fight. That's not good situations. If you're in a relationship, and you're all you do is fight and you have the occasional like makeup sex. We'll let you occasionally like, you know, you have no more music joy than thought. As you should stay on. It's not conducive for any relationship. About the trust. The trust isn't. It's like when you're acting when he goes after trust isn't there with direct to them? I always supposed to fall in like give yourself to them play. Yeah. Like, I say, I hold my hands off and say, they're like I was quite cagey for a lot of that time. I wasn't interested in like having personal relationships with an ours was just like, I'm gonna do my thing you do your thing. And that's not collaborative and it needs to be collaborative. So I know the I like resisted a lot. But it's because it wasn't the right? That could we could tell the right time over I think our new before I signed the deal with it. Like, I wasn't supposed to be. That's not the that's not who. I rely the house. Thumbs post living yet like. So yeah, she felt positive after that. Did you feel? You were just going to go back to to Ryan for you. Or did you failed? You you were you happy with that e. Yeah. Yeah. Like that was kind of why always wanted to do. But like I wanna ride familiar and then give its people. There's so many things like this much build up and like in this released windows in the list. The list like jogging this just boring boring. It's got nothing to do with like the is relationships of people that listen to what they make like is business stuff. And you still have to be still have to be business-minded. But now. Great. If shit comes first, that's what mine's guy. Right. Kind of as it should really has if the craves office. Correct. Then you can't sell it for me. There's no good. After like, if I'm giving you something that you don't wanna show how you supposed to. Mauka Senate to people. Yeah. Yeah. It's kind of works out for the best is just a. Once the album was done was out and a toward it and all that kinda stuff just knock it. I was like the end of. I'll say say walk as people actual wars. Yeah. Like, you know, like it just felt I was just felt like you spent spent mentally and physically. Yeah. I was just like I just need to. Rest. That stop in. Didn't start then stop you burn out. I am. Fail. It now still. I'm almost I'm like, you know, haven't of never stop. Always been doing something even like, even when of had toys times of like. Depression, and and anxious and like there's a way some plate. The I feel like a half the spend a half the keep garden after keep working after work harder than other people because I'm Brown half, the, you know, after work harder than other people because the the view of like actors slash or music slash anything is. Not really seeing is like as I pick something few love something cannot pick something why do three four three or four different people should do anything. They want to I'm going to I still wanna make films. I never just been as we know from all of our discussions. We've been talking about the both both things that you're really passionate about that. You do for a living now up pretty much equal you've been doing at the same time. There's a nice balance between not like, and why why shouldn't a musician then go and trying to be an actor or vice versa. You know, I understand that statement attached. But we just need to be more open going up. If you want to do it. Do it going to do it? Really? Well. Suppose Sugar Boy. It's like when you try and do things like really quietly, that's exactly. Did you would understand? Parents house when you were trying to put the Cayenne. Elephant come from. Yeah. Like. I don't care about that stuff as much as I used to. I just think like I'm just gonna be healthy though. Yeah. I think so I just need to go out my heads to some extent like he just saw out the personal stuff. I never addressed. As the thing is I've I used these things destructions from myself like I always, and it doesn't mean I love them. They're not they're just as excuses to be like, you know. Then just serve that function. But. Phil. Of latte blanked-out of my life. And I've done it. Yeah. Yeah. Subconsciously consciously. Like. Like, our Goto, the cinemas my favorite place a dark room, you can't leave and you're watching somebody else's life. And he's going off interviewed if it has to do, and it connects you, and it makes you cry wherever then that's cathartic, and it, you know. For me, the safest place, I can be on this release. Yeah. Yeah. I also know that the destruction. I I don't I walk around. I've been walking around the world with headphones on. Everyday says always twelve can't take in to constant away it. Yeah. Always tried to distract myself from J find the world imply, sometimes, absolutely. Yeah. Find baffling. I don't I don't get it. Well, it's a hard place and life is hard. And it is contradictory. Everything's a contradiction. Everything's true. And everything's not true. I mean. Yeah. And that version of your truth over there pointing off putting. Enough jacket point somebody. That version of is is that person's truth. We might say as complete falsehood. You know, millions of those Benz of different truths minutes is different stories. Is unique. I don't know we're all we've all got troubles over. So I was just had deal with them. Just trying to deal with them. I don't know. Right. Our exhausted. You know, what it is what it is? It's not the radio. Thank in time. To just a really thanking go actually sorry. I'm just being. Yeah. I'm being selfish. I'm thinking about something. Thinking about sorry. That's thinking. The day today sort of complexities of everybody. But your show in all those people out. I'm just wondering. When you constantly consciously. What no I need. Even though I know you saying now that you still like to be in that safe place. He'd like to be in that cinema light to be with headphones on when was the moment. You felt you needed to talk or have you always been talking? If we're drowning might. By was the time. When you start your hand up and said, I need I need a little help here. The first time. Stays kind of guys. Desperate is could get really. And somebody one of my employees said. Eat needs to go. See someone was it when you were bam, particularly self-destructive. Yeah. Right. I was being like unprofessional as well. Like, you know, sometimes. Say I would never do now. But I'd like drinker workers often is like you can't do that. But I think the. The company manager like at the time was. He just was like, I can see something's really wrong. Yeah. And you have to go in. Try and I'll take you home way. So I kind of got referred somewhere. And I'm just Radi. Bide time of how to really bite experience. So I was just too fragile time to take any. Like any kind of human error like against me was enough to just destroy me. Like started therapy. And I was saying this stuff. I never said to anybody breaking down sessions. Dislike was saying things that I've completely like stopped myself from thinking about. Yeah. And and then in one of the sessions, the therapist. My name room. And I took it so badly took it really personally. I was like I've told you things you never told anybody, and you can't even remember name. I kind of. She or he was is a professional. I understand. What is now? Yeah. You know, like she saying. Gee, she's is many different people have many different stories, and yeah. But instead of like saying that to the therapist just never went again I start and it was really bad idea. I'm ready. I'm very very lucky that I met my girlfriend when like I said like you can't cover over the cracks about like, she saved my life. Like, you know. And also she encouraged me to like, right? Keep writing keep keep doing you. Happy doing that. So yeah, I didn't go. Well, first time I tried to get help. But I think thinking about kids. To be honest. I think is that thing that's really changed. This time icon put my stuff onto a little person. I don't want to don't wanna encourage that. I want to be able to be supportive as I can. And I want to, but I'm are now realizing I wanna be bad myself. I don't wanna feel like this. No. Because if you allow yourself how can you guide anybody else? So that's the other thing is like I spent years like being really open and honest about my like my head in songs, but never really took. It about it to anybody never really open enough about anything, and I feel like it's important to to talk to someone like as long as he feel safe as long as you'd like you trust the person, you feel like you're invited doesn't my who doesn't matter. Sometimes it's the people that, you know, even like super close to that really surprise you. I wouldn't advise I go Intel bike someone in the street. But like there are places you call their off to important. Each other as you say is an important for the people to lessen, but it has to be in the environment. These had a safe environment. All of our safety. Those like that thing of being too it. Somebody's about safety, and we have to create that for other people. Yeah. Without any solve stack more attacks because. Yeah, just shouldn't be nowadays. They upstairs connects for us with everything. Well, I thought you meant the literal. Earlier on my head. I'm not racist. But. Is that such a great thing to over here? I'm not racist. I've got loads of like my. You know, you can always go and talk to me like you so much fun. Enjoy it. Yeah. Yeah. And another episode is done. I think understand. Now why I didn't wanna say too much and the beginning of the episode by by what was in it. It's just better. If you open your ears and enlist to the conversation. And maybe understand. Now, why it is good to talk. You can talk about these things. It's important. Right. Well, not really a lot more to say, I want to thank you so much for allowed in describing telling friends get into those on social media where to shop pod Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, all those places it's to shop part at Cheam our dot com. If you wanna Trump as a line. And do go and write a review what nail five star on gone waiting for. That'd be very kind of. Yeah. I'm going to have a very very lovely week. Take care, and I will see you next week episode sixty three. Shop podcast is presented by me. Cry pockets of recorded per choosed by Thomas Griffin for splicing bluff on music, upper leave music is courtesy often. Then.
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I I do like that saying, you know, keeping the girl is one it comes on five days a week. I and I'm premium and I'm all that shit. And I listen to everything they do. But not, you know, not every show is going to be like that for people. Right. I mean, you come out like a radio show. Right. You don't let you know. If you if you listen to Tom during the morning show. You don't be like I missed Tuesday show him. So sorry, it'll be a show on Wednesday. It'd be are right. Anyway, thank God for the black guy for TV GWP. What the peace Stanford blurred e girl say five stars the black guy who peas like, I'm podcast. I found your podcast after the vice land interview, my sister. And I listen to a game with Donald Trump castle. We laughed out behind. I'm sad their game of thrones Indian, but happy to a foul riding care. Well, thank you. Thank you, baby. Yeah. In a small percentage of people that listen to game with us. We'll stay for the rest of the ship, and that's dope. 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You know, one of the things that I think people don't appreciate man is that has to be variety to this landscape of black podcast or product. Every podcast. Can't be the same. You know? And I think this traditional formats that fit people's schedules and other people, but nobody ever thinks about the people that aren't being served so like everybody, ideally in their mind because it was created by white people in most black people when they're doing something create not most people in general, they're doing on the creator. They just copy what why people are doing. And they're like, that's what this industry is this most people think a podcast is something less than an hour. That happens once a week. And they mess it. And you don't think about it much? So you just kinda keep creating the same thing. Why people bend on? And there's nothing wrong with that. If you good at it, and you can make it happen coup. Right. But for most of the shows that do that I mean, and it takes a lot of time to do what we do. But from other shows that do that unite going to separate yourself from the pack anyway. So you might as well do what's true to yourself? If that's something you can do, you know with us. We organically grew to show to five days a week premium stuff out of that yet. We lost them listeners along the way, but we gained some as well. But with the the biggest thing to me is that we're true to ourselves. And we don't compromise our vision, and if people fuck with the show that I mean, they really do fuck with us. 'cause 'cause this is us, you know. And I don't know that it will always be able to be that way. You know, things might happen. We might have to reduce the number shows. We if some, you know, like, I'm enjoying this January. We can because if something happens in the show is like what by somebody or we get hired by somebody. Right. It's. Not going to be the same. You know? And I think people don't appreciate that shit. Right. They don't appreciate let's is almost like magic happens in front of people and people don't appreciate the magic Tillis gone. Yeah. Appreciate your freedom. While you got it, man. In in the wake of them thrown staying people beheaded up, our inbox and all this type of things. But also in the wake of that. There's been a lot of people who are like, you know, we wanna see this blackness brought into the mainstream. And that's cool. I think you know, I don't know why so much of this stuff that is white media. Just does not really higher black people and shit. But it's not really a dream of mine. You know, what I mean, like, I'm wary of that type of attention and that type of setting because then your show has to not be focused on just black people or just on yourself. And it becomes can we make this joke. It become right? You know, it becomes like a product that you know, has different limitations on it. You may not be able to have the same formats and all that stuff. So I'm not necessarily excited about all that shit. I think it's hard for people to fathom that most of us have been, you know, codified to be like, yeah, this is how you feel about this. You get this level attention you. This is great you getting this level of success. This is great. But I don't know, man. I can only be happy with the things I'm happy with and that's not necessarily something. I think would make me happy necessarily, you know, not saying I'd be against it. But just in general, it's not something about thing. We'll make me happy. So I kind of liked that we are able. To be like a place where black people are being like, hey, check out this podcast. I think you'll like it and folks like interface group like, yeah, I'm gonna check this shit out. Like, this is dote like I want to enjoy that as long as we can they're saying because they've been podcasts at obligation to and people have grown and people have evolved. Because I remember with Bomani Jones in the morning Jones. I loved that show. But that show was something special in it can never be duplicated and I- Louis sit at my desk in cry when the last episode air because I knew that this right here was the end of something special. Yeah. That was the sweet spot. Right. The morning John's was the sweet spot. It was like. It was like a family of people that just really likes one thing and one person and talked about sports, and all and it was creative, and it was fun, and I run guard and at the same time as you blow up you lose a little bit of that. Now, it's not a family, no more. Now. It's not, you know, it's not the same. You can't call into the high noon, you know. And so I think people, you know, maybe you gotta cherish that as much as you chairs out of other shit. Yeah. And there's nothing wrong with blown up and doing those things. But like you say the big you get you have two things change. And you can't duplicate the same thing. Yeah. So not that any of that stuff is on horizon. I'm just letting you know. I just thought about that this morning was I don't fucking appreciative thankful like I read what happened was I read an article in the article was about. Basically like, why aren't black people being brought into these mainstream media outlets who capitalize off of black work. Right. So you got stuff like. Like the game of thrones is out there. Like, oh them. Thrones. Black people are making making this trend every every. Every day. So why aren't they hiring black people to discuss game with thrones and stuff like that? And Mike to me I feel like too I feel conflicted on it. I'm not I'm not as like gung ho about like HBO come hire me. So I could talk about this shit because I'm actually thinking to myself like what will they not want me talking about like what joke? Do they not want me to say, what song do they not want me play? What guests do they not want me to have? What thing are they gonna limit my format by and these are compromises, I think people make all the time for money. There's nothing wrong with that. But I don't think that that is the height of what the creative expression is for the recast that we do the high of our creative expression is actually what we doing right now is is this is not going to get more freer than this like it's just going to get less and less as you get more and more. Attention. So I don't know. It was just something to think about man, you know, I I keep thinking back to those fucking Facebook comments that were first on there that video when vice put it up, and how offended why people were about it. Just the notion that black people wanted to kick it. Yeah. Because why people gonna white at end of the day. And that's something there's real to once you become more visible to white people. Yeah. Because a lot of it is to get in front of the eyes of white people which understand because what people got the money. But when you do why people you've got to deal with their bullshit that comes along with the two. Yes. The trade off. And I don't wanna wrecked. I don't wanna trade attention for the wrong. I don't wanna I don't think. I don't value that type of attention that much. Right. Not to the point where you because as you know, obviously, there's why people that don't care about that. And they're cooler shitting. They don't give a fuck agree. But the fact that once you every time you level up is another is more is on you're trying to figure a way out to shit on you, you know. So it's just kind of like. Interested in trade off. I was thinking about and is the part of the process, and you know, everybody has to deal with that in their everyday nine to five life all the done. Yup. Last one this is from John Smith seventeen ninety seven says Larry's and five foot five stars. My spouse turned me onto this. And I love it even though I'm politically conservative. Wow. Yeah. That is. That is a pretty amazing. I won't lie. I didn't think any conservative people listening to shit saying. And I would you know, I mean my fuck around and get what by accident may accident and the nice sleep and follow. But I said then what you're going to do. You know, start having empathy and seeing other people's concerns shit. You're gonna be all fucked up into military. So me. Happening fuck around like I was actually thinking about them undocumented children out of the day. But anyway, thank you for your five star view. I didn't see any for movie reviews. So let's get into the comments on our website. You can find our website the black guy who tips dot com. Leave comments on each episode. Last time we had a feedback show was eighteen eighty eight put in positively was the name of it. Sees says Hello dollars. Just a quick one. Gena. Yes. Sheer Connor explained it well to me about British actors coming over no of about their BAFTA award. Well, in her words, BAFTA black actors fuck off to Africa is what that means anti blackness is a fucking global thing. The better those eighty s folks get get it the better. I guess the better being pro black by being anti-black my ass. Oh, okay. Yeah. The better those ADL's the area's FOX get it. The better. Being pro black. Bobby anti-black my ads. Yeah. Abo s is African descendants of slaves movement. I don't know if this move has been around for ever, I don't know of his new I think it kinda hit a resurgence maybe around the beginning of this year with the whole like we're going to ask politicians about reparations thing that a lot of black light people are promoting. But somehow it's kind of being co opted by like, the hotel people like, you know, I think to reading the sheets really promoting heavy and also kind of being co opted by Russia and bots who are trying to sell this court among black voters and democratic candidates. So it's become the litmus test for for our kinds of candidates, obviously means to an end, I don't care that is really started by whoever the fuck. I hope all the candidates have to ask answer questions about reparations other than that. You know? I don't we'll see what the answers are. I don't really think we're going to get us Aleutian. This go around. But and I and I think that's my thing. We're not gonna really get a a solution. And is one of those things nut that those things will never. A lot of people have hope date eventually those things will push forward. And I understand that. But for me, and I'm not. Is not a dismissed when I say this. But I'm like, okay, that's cute. But these other issues that are actually at hand do we can actually affect right now. Like, some of these things that you bring up we'll take years of research and development. You know, like like, isn't that something happened overnight? So mad I can't strike opinion in law was passed. We'll get started. Right. That's not my ass. I mean, they they talking about starting. I mean, Cory Booker lost the doing evaluation. To see like to basically, you have to study like the damage that was done in black people the monetary financial damage, and then you after you have a committee that does that they you start thinking solutions, and you have to find the most palpable solutions that people will accept that. Help black people, you know, that being said. Like like this like Rhonda is become co opted by just like this weird anti blackness of we hate Africans and black people from like two were brought to America through, you know, slavery chattel slavery. They it's like we need to separate ourselves from every other type of black person to point out there are specific needs or different which I do understand our specific needs are different. But then they turned it into. I don't want to see like African people playing black people on screen that were American slaves. And I'm like that. I don't go that far with I don't either look into reparations cool the rest of this year. I don't really care about. And I'm just not trying to join the dice world wars. And not mean that like. African people I'll say some Faust leaks shit about us. I'm not really interested in fighting with them either. I just ignore those mother fuckers and don't fuck with them. And you know, and I don't have anything slick to say about Africans 'cause I really wasn't raised around African people to love or slash hate them and any type of way because that's not my experience in America to be like these more focused day better than me or whatever. So there you go. Phil g says Hello the gratuitous parts into blackness. I want to say another great medium talk with Corinne Taylor. Oh, so much information that I had not known of I grew up in Beaumont, Texas with a great petroleum plant of giant petroleum plant less than five miles from my mother's house, and the college of the city, I never paid any attention to it. But you do notice that the two neighborhoods that are closest to the area are predominantly people of color. It wasn't until I joined the military and a good friend of mine went to the local college that I learned that the college was thinned out warnings for the students that the city never sent out stating that the plant had a venting or something going on that will pollute the air and that the students should stay indoors or where protective covering to avoid breathing in air. So the school cared enough about his students with the city didn't care about his residents to give out a warning damn. Yeah. I believe that because. Yeah. Think about it, man. Power plants nuclear power plants dumps cell phone tower. Yes, all this stuff put out radiation. Toxicity shoot dick and go into your water really think about where these things are located at and worse located the closest to wit America, the beautiful, I guess I feel lucky to have made it without any major breathing issues. But it's sad that this is how we are treated in this country. And now more informed with how to combat that. If I get this. If I get the chance, thanks for the content carrying and rod. Thanks, phil. Oh, you're welcome. It was so fun everybody clean air. But you know, what you you fucked air for the poor people everybody going gonna be fucked up. We all we all go eventually re breathing the same air, people are stupid people just happy rich people people with money people with means class artist. They just have to DASA. Mean, that's really all environmentalism can't or antiviral into lives them is. 'cause it's not like you don't live in the same planet. You you just literally just are happy as long as everybody dot before. You do what Trump BMP's? Yes. Or no, no eighty seven percent audience agrees with you. Can't thirteen percent says yes, Brooklyn shoe base has I don't think Trump will be held accountable for anything. And if someone tries to Republicans will circle around and protect them because all they care about is winning. Any means. Yes, yes. Yes. Yes. He's not going to step down. I even I even think if he loses they'll probably have to fight in get lawyers to get his ass to lead the White House because he gonna claim it's a scam. Like just him leaving you're going to be a big ole miss. I could see him trying to pass a law to say that he can run again like bullshit like that. C T says I agree with booklet Shubais. Trump won't be held accountable for shit. We got a solid twenty months before we might see the light at the end of the tunnel. I just want some sensible people to come up with a plan of action for the next president to take over and twenty twenty one please. Yep. That's basically, I feel I don't think we're getting the righteous vengeance. That everybody seems to think is coming. You know, everybody. Oh, yeah. We'll actually everybody a lot of people seem to really be banking on this impeachment thing and the thing is with impeachment. It doesn't mean that your outfit. It's not like, I think it was Clinton was impeached. She just didn't resigned Nixon was impeached, and he did resigned. So it's not, you know, the the catch out at a lot of people seem to think it is where it's just like. Yeah. Piece that motherfucker now he gotta go home. Like now, I really don't work like that. Because if one piece do it, you know, the Senate and the congress degree initiates of one person say do it in the other half say, no, nothing's gonna fuck happen. Yeah. But I'm saying even if they agreed Ryan a magical world where they did impeach the president. We are talking about a president that just goes I lie for a living. I'm not recognizing anything. You guys have to say fuck, y'all. And then what you go to write, you know. So that's the thing. He's like people keep thinking he had a decency to resign. I'm like, I I'm not sure that's going to happen. He don't abide by rules. Rules mean nothing to him. Speaking of medium talk. I did forget to read this. We got one comment on that episode of medium talk, which was episode forty two we act for environmental Justice. I put it on the website. Put it on the regular fee for everybody as well. Emails. Three has really enjoyed this medium talk. It was a formative and really painted a fuller picture how environmental issues packed all issues. We to March hashtag about I like the menial talks in general for providing these insights on topics. I typically wouldn't find interesting. Thank you. That's the whole point. Thank you ever saw eighteen eighty nine welcome to the cook out George Lucas. We had some comments. Let's see ravens says I'm at the part where y'all talking about Bill causes insurance complaint. And the fact that y'all call it rape insurance has me dying. I worked for a commercial insurance company in as your question. Yes. This does exist. It's kind of sexual abuse molest h in coverage, and there's a common former covers that can be added to a businesses liability insurance. Wow. You so how does that meeting? Go because I feel like if I'm going to be missing if I'm in a meeting for my business and the insurance guy. Is like well now that we covered that liability insurance. You be interested in some right MLS station insurance coverage rape, ambulance station. Why? Why would y'all? Yeah. You know, you need the sexual abuse coverage just looking at this is looking at how you run your business. You might wanna sign up. You might wanna sign up. I'm looking at buddy over there. He looked like he grabbed cities and asked you might want to sign on the dotted line who brings it up. I who brings it up the Bill Cosby have people in this people are the ones who conduct insurance. But before they leave for the mean Bill causes like could you look into some rape insurance for me? I might need that. I mean for me neither here nor there. I mean, there's case, you know, just because you're your house burned down you always get fire insurance. Yeah. Let's get flood insurance. And in a throwing a little rape insurance. There you go ahead and throwing a gap insurance, you know, as a gap insurance like when you buy a new car, they don't tell you that most people need gap insurance because if your cars ever told it allows you never get back the two car, but a lot of people don't get the gap insurance. Then they wreck the car now on for a car that they can't drive. So they was just in case in my experience. I've only seen this coverage included for CEO's and other figures of a corporation to protect the company's liability against these types of clients from employee's, he employees accused the manager of rape, etc. But it's likely to Bill has this type of coverage because he is a wealthy self employed. Entertainer. Yeah. I wonder how many other wealthy ROY insane. His add this exact insurance, personally, I was discussed it when I started working at my company and discovered this coverage exists, but it makes sense when you think about when you think about all the settlements companies have to pay out when they get sued. There's actually a well. Yeah. As a big company, I kinda understand because you don't know what your employees are going to do individually. So I had to protect myself against anything one of these stupid motherfucker skewed. Do right? I don't want to pay out of pocket. But when you work for when these you you personally when is Bill Cosby Inc. It feels a little different. There's actually a budget set aside for this type of stuff. Oh, I know we talked about during the Harvey Weinstein thing. Sorry. This is so long, but I rarely get to flex my sheri- knowledge skills. Love y'all in the show. Thank you law says, hey, rod, Karen, rotten cairn. I I'm glad y'all covered. John singleton. He was showing us things that the mainstream American doesn't understand each showed America the human side of this of these misunderstood people is a shade of these. His messages are seen as a myth until CNN is covering something that runs parallel to visit these movies though, right? Also had no point about a had no idea about rape insurance. But I'm not shocked there were slave insurance in the country in this country to Yup. Nicomedes? They got it. There's probably sheri- for every situation where somebody over thirty can get off on some heinous crime. No pun intended. Anyway, everything's Rupp like that ice cube. Stay ready. Thanks. Well. Thank you. Yeah. Yes. Interested in what you said about John singleton 'cause you know, just thinking about his movies, man. People talk about talk to masculinity and all that type of shit, and you know, a lot of brothers get up in arms Audi of even bringing this kinda shit up. I'm on but the movie baby boy was literally just on the about that. It was literally just about the oppression that black man Phil and the infantilism of black men of via their parenting, either lack of fathers in the home, the overprotective mothers or mothers, just literally just over. There. Just have too much on their plate to be able to raise complete human being right by themselves. They do the best they can. But there's just life is is also kicking their ass to. And then you know, that psycho continuing and that polite of constantly like coming up and being surrounded by death. And believes in the way that we are women and the way we treat each other. I mean. That's what that movies about. It just isn't called toxic masculinity and nigga swear by that movie, like come stay jail. People like, you know, love is in like a cult classic type of love. I know I think that movies kind of silly. And we laugh at the traumatic parts like we do with all gallows humor. But he was speaking on this shit without speaking on this shit through the movies. And I don't know just feel like we really lost somebody special that. You know that people were able to kind of laugh off his over the top. But now you look at those at those movies, and it's like I mean he wanted to fall off. No a lot the shit. We're talking about right now polarize saying, I couldn't tell at first if you our joking or not and we all talking about rape insurance. I need to see if that's this kind of coverage exists in Canada. How do you get ripe insurance? Anyway, you go into the officers say I've got a new car I need to ensure and I might look into some right? Brochures, too, right? Right. Like like when you buy horn at the video store. I know. I'm dating myself. You guys do out. Remember this? Spawn, it seems like when you have Hornets local video store you go in and they have a point section, but you always had to buy like two movies. They got nothing to do with horn. So you can get booty talk thirty eight. Mix it in with everything else is like, oh, yeah. Terms of endearment really wanna check that out. Ooh, I guess I'll see die hard three D And see that one in theater yet. And out at ask seven. Yeah. That's do it for today is that what is getting rave insurance on the car insurance home insurance, and while we rape insurance there. But really, you know, you can't even therefore for rape insurance. Your mother fucking right. Let me get tornado earthquake insurance. Yeah. Might be doing. Might be doing ribbon on this app. But at add that in there too. Yes. So you go into your arm say, oh, yeah. I mean, what does what does the insurance agents say to that? If I worked there. I will be telling everyone I noted that motherfucker just about rape insurance or the latest can get themselves. So now, rape insurance mind blown also can't I've known lots of white women name Sadi's, but they were all strippers. Then makes sense got the intellect says so regarding the James, Egypt vacation comments. I disagree with what he said not because he's rich or that. I don't personally like him. That's beyond say husband and beyond say makes no mistakes. I disagree. I disagree because it reinforces classism in our community. Also glad you wrote in about this. 'cause I actually wanted to go back on the this is a perfect example of what I'm talking about. What this JV shit? Yes. I'd much prefer to have black landlords to the white ones. But some black people are just as ruthless towards the working classes anyone else. My parents generation still demonize people on government assistance as being lazy? Good for nothing. Despite. That either they or their loved ones use it. Responsibly. Jay Z's advocating for trickle down economics the nigga edition. I think y'all I address in the hot takes reaction on Twitter, which are usually from left field. So I mostly agree with I would love to hear both you and cans thoughts on how to uplift and protect lower class in our community without depending on the empathy of the middle and upper classes, which may or may not appear to be clear. I agreed that address the racist aspect of the problem. But it doesn't address exploit tell the poor. Here's here's the problem. I think I would what you're saying. And no point was easy like and then start taking advantage of the other black people in the neighborhood that way white people do that was not that was not what he said. And I think this is kinda like the thing I would Twitter whereas like people have to assume the worst of him in order to make the disagreement because when it was nipsy just a couple of weeks ago. Nobody was writing in like why disagree with Nancy because ownership in the black community doesn't really change anything because you just now you just going to be exploiting the poor. That's like newsy thing was no now, you have heart here, and you're coming the counter people that we want to have ownership within this community are black people who care about the community. That's the whole three stouter. Jay Z said it stars literally with like because you care about your community, you need to come in and reinvest in your community and people just got caught up on the word gentrify. And then they're like y'all going relocate black people, y'all. Going to raise a wrench y'all going to. And that's to me that's like saying. You know to me that's like saying, I don't know when I say made a four mation the people that were like, well what she's really saying is that the white people down. I know that doesn't necessarily mean like you have to assume the words in order to be offended by what she said. I don't think he Amy point implied. Black ownership be like white ownership. No. I think he implied that black ownership because we care about our community should be different than other ownership like, it should be a revitalization reinvestment into the areas of the community that you care about because you want you care about the actual people there, you know. So as not, you know, it's not just. You know, it's not just about a coming in. And being like, I'm I'm going to be a landlord that is like a corrupt abuser the poor. And I think the fact that. The fact that you inserted that the fact that so many people inserted that into his wrap. It bothers me because I'm like. For me personally after like, he should have to say that for me to for me to take it that way, I would need to see the bar in the line where it was like. And now watch us do the same thing. To everybody else, you know, and I'm bringing Leary's back up. So I can look at them in a background because I'm I'm like, maybe I'm missing it. And there's bars in there like that. And y'all can right in with the specific like when he said this line, this is when I saw that where he was advocating was really about, you know, just shitting on black people, but black people during the to each other. But that's not what I saw. And I think also to answer your other question about like, how do we help the poor out without a black people that are poor without it being about embassy from the middle and upper classes, you don't you can't you can't is literally impossible you. It is going to take some empathy from some people with means. I'm not old to help people that don't have means. And nobody gives a fuck about them. That's kind of the only that's the only solution. There's not like another solution. Whereas like like somebody got to give up somebody somebody somewhere. You know, somebody. That's gotta help. They have the means to help, right? So. Yeah. Looking at these. Larry's like, I hate to go through all this shit. Again. I know people like you already did. But let's do it gentrify your own before these people, do it claim, imminent domain and have your people move in. There's a small glimpse into what that's a small glimpse into what? Smog. Listen to what he was doing for anyone that's still confused as to what nifty was doing. The neighborhood is designed to keep us trapped. They read lines so property declines if you live by blacks, they depressed the asset and take the property back. It's a roofless, but genius plan in fact now, I don't feel like he's saying. So that's what we need to do each other. I thought he's saying like this is this is what makes us feel like we're against each other. But if we were the people that were owning our property investing in our property had our assets, go appreciate instead of depreciate. We wouldn't feel this need to be at each other's backs and to fight with each other and says the next line. So now we fighting over scraps crabs in a barrel but crabs don't belong in the barrel. And they ain't never tell us that so in the barrel. We're going to act like we act we can easily get out of the barrel. We stand on each other's backs. Whoever gets on top as long as they say attached. They gonna pull everybody out. I was doing I was doing just that I told neighborhood, and if he stay close there's one hundred million dollars on your schedule state, lay low tell your team to be on point in the places that they go I never dreamed that he killed in the place that he called home. How are we going to get empowered? If we kill the source y'all like the run off on the plug. So of course, that ain't lit. That's. Means store and me and my team was playing the plug ahead of a plan. Sometimes we was only making thousands joint day, no money, but that ain't the main point and he talked about the bricks and shit. But my thing for for the part about nipsy and all that stuff is. We he's he's modeling nifty as the ideal here. So to meet us, a he's just saying go in and manipulate the black people that are there. So that you can kinda like get over on them because for them poor people it that's not true. Because nifty was a man of the people everybody who's has talked about him since. Right. Is it was about revitalizing his neighborhood? It was about compassion. He got killed literally going to get close for brother that had just got out of prison. You know, like it like it wasn't to me. It was more about like, we are black. So we would look out for each other. If while while we expect why people not to this is not just say every black person that has ever owned something is a good person. And they're gonna look out. This is not what I'm saying. But we're talking about what he was encouraging in this rap Jay Z was not encouraging some abuse. Like, I just don't see he's not just saying trickle down economics. I'm rich. And then you get rich to me he saying like, I'm going to not oppress. You like my my job is not to get rich by making you less like less by making you more poor white people in a lot of cases, get rich by making us more poor, you know, and to me, that's what he's saying. But. Yeah. I don't know, man. I think that's what he was saying in the freestyle. Maybe we just disagree, and that's fine. But. I did not find it to be. The classism in the community type of thing. Because. The thing is class already is a problem in America already exist. Guess it does so to then approach this thing as if that's not a thing that will matter. In the solution is such a denial of where the problem is that I don't know how you solve something that you won't even kind of express the pro right to me. It's like why people say there is no privilege, and like not you do have privilege. I want you to help us it to fix and make things even playing field. You know, you don't I don't want you to get to the top. And be like, well, I just don't believe in class. I just don't believe in privilege. I don't want to reinforce that. So I'm not gonna do sit for nobody with my all my resources. I think for people just need to figure it out on their own. Like, nah, you know, what we're for the classes. And to me is Steve Harvey saying the best thing you do for a poor person. It's not be one of them. That's the kind of thing that people were reacting like Jay Z said that and that's now he said, so, but but like, I say, I appreciate you. Right. And then I just respectfully disagree with that. Would that be in a message of his rap? Do you want to see Jesse get his job back? Yes. I don't really care the way or health care guests eighteen Senator audience agrees with you. Tampa San says HALE not in a wanted to get his job back and seventy one percent says they don't care either way peo- says I do not care if J s keeps loses his gig. I'll start confused by folks who against Jay z Chitra fixation route. But also talk about we need black on XYZ making make sense. They also romanticized about black Wall Street combat Jack resident piece talked about buying property and his own neighborhood for that very reason. I am tired yet, man. And it's weird because I can kind of understand the people just have a problem with Jay z, and they're not gonna fuck with him. Because anything says agreed. I don't understand how that free style would've made people be like for Jay z or I just don't get it. I don't find what was offensive in that free style. And I'm you know, like, I said, I talked to my homey about it and everything, you know, and I didn't come in and on from like, man, I'm argue what you, but I was just like explain to me why this is so fucked up 'cause I'm not getting it. And I don't want to. I don't wanna be a person that just doesn't get it. You know? But I really don't see what was fuck up about that a lot of black people have been looking for solutions, this kind of thing, and you have to have and black people means we I feel like it's such a fucked up day, we do to black people that got money, which is we go give back help people. You don't care about anybody else black 'cause you're rich. And then when they do like not like that. Right. You wanna dictate what they do? And it doesn't matter how they do it. It's just always like not like that nothing to underline filling about it is that we are resentful of them for having been the quote unquote, chosen ones and making it and successful, and people will never meet there, but greed, and I think that's that's part of the problem is like I resent you. Now, you have made it to a certain extent. And now your life is reflecting that you have made it you're you've a master's well. And so even when you do give back. I'm going to shit on how you do that. And even if you like, I I remember when motherfuckers were mad when Jay Z said, my presence is charity when he said, I don't want a I don't have to be an activist. I don't need to do all that just showing up at these events should be telling people like this is a Cosworth invested in. Look Jay Z was there, and Harry Belafonte take autumn out and people like Gary Bellefonte, you got him tell, you know, get on his ass, and then Jay Z and beyond say, they do star being vocal. They do give back. They changed their music. They changed their activism. They changed the social media. They changed their like the shows. And the interviews. I do they change everything. And then you still got people trying to way to be like with still fuck you. And I think that's something that's out of us, not doom. That's something inside of us. That's like even though I know you trying I gotta find a way to stay fuck that too. And that's always been there. That's not so new ship. Nope. It when it was. The boys a fucking Booker T Washington. Like, it was always going to be black people fighting each other about the best way to help black people. No matter what is historical. And that's fine. I'm not saying, we all gotta agree. We obviously are not all gonna agree. But I find it kinda like telling that, we don't know how to relax when somebody's trying. And I and I say this is a person is focused with myself, and I've been working on it. Why you know, you can I if you've been paying attention and show you can hear it on the show. I'm trying to be less negative towards people that I think are trying trying you know, because I think it's easy for me to be like you didn't get that. Perfect. I don't agree with everything you've said so fuck you. But that's not how I really be feeling like I'm not that kind of person to just be like a Agri. Would you not out of ten things? So fuck you. I need one hundred percent agreement. You know, I'm trying my best to kind of reflect that in the way, I evaluate people and be like, okay. I think this person might be kind of fucked up for this point. But I see how they got there. Or I see what they trying to do that doesn't mean. I'm always gonna make it. Sometimes I literally just term reviewed around way. Just can't help yourself. But I'm trying man. So you don't see me talking about like killer. Mike his fucking show or whatever. And I'm like, what would be the point. He thinks he helping in the best way that he can help and is not like I disagree with him about black businesses or black people with the to protect themselves. I think it's stupid to going to NRA fucking thing. But he even said he shouldn't have did that. So you know, he made mistakes like everybody else. You know? I'm trying my best to kinda like allow for that type of shit, you know, to a certain degree. It's not like I'm trying to be like this dooby writing people. It's cool. Like, nah, I'm just in general like this person approach that differently than I would have. And I don't agree with philosophically. But that doesn't mean I had to like cast them out as a person. And I think that's the difference. And that's what I'm kind of encouraging what Jay z. 'cause like it's not like, I'm saying everything Jay Z. Does I wasn't walking around after that freestyle he fixed? He. Picks racism, y'all just like that's his idea. He's a nigger from Brooklyn. I was born in Marci Krajicek's he made it out of life this way using these tactics. And he's trying to spread that shit to everybody else and say, hey, now, we can give back to our neighborhoods and be better, blah, blah, blah. Maybe he's right. Maybe that helps one person maybe it helps one hundred people maybe it doesn't help anybody. But I think he's trying to help. Anyway, at least you say, I don't really fuck with Jay z with that free style as southern black woman. I never really related to him and his music much. But I love the part where you would rather have a wife to bounce these ideas off of night. Love y'all basically leisure. Thank you. Yes, funny. It took him a while to get there. Then I remember wrapping the more was me as raps about how he can never be love. And you could never find somebody to love him because you know, these women is just gonna take money from. He's just a, you know, and he couldn't even cry on the song. So he gotta make the song cry and all that shit. He's come a long way. And I think that's why I'm kind of partial to rooting for his growth because I think his example of growth could help a lot of people if they pay attention. But I don't think people are really ready to let go how they already feel one way or the other about him. You know, they that he has to be this hero figure or he has to be this like, I don't know charlatan, and I might maybe it's. In between. Maybe he just a person like us, and he's confused and trying to figure it out like everybody else. Hopefully, you get a chance to get old enough to to to be able to do that shit as well. And and more importantly, hopefully, people start seeing his example now that aren't his age that are younger than him and go why wait my whole life to have this awakening? Agreed. You know, Monique says I hope for Jesse say they don't let him back into the Halatu that hellacious show. I think this is part of an exit strategy for the entire contract, including the music, and they essentially control where he can release his own original music. I didn't know that. I wonder if they still got that contract. Even if you don't get out of it. I wonder what how that works. I don't I don't know. Episode eighteen ninety Pattaya burritos. We have a magazine Bentley on who dropped his album yesterday Lakeview on all streaming platforms. Stand up album the crowd work, pretty avant. Garde? So the comment was from says, I kinda get why Pete Davidson might be sensitive about anyone bringing up Arianna Guerande and Arianna Grandy and Kate begging sail because obviously they're much more famous than him. And only time I hear his name is connected to those two I guess that would make a lot of people insecure when you're more fame when you're more famous for who you date that what you actually suppose we famous for. And what's so funny that always happen to women and nobody gives a fuck. But for some reason is a man, and he's he's fucking extra fucking sensitive. I don't want to hear that. You're I mean, I'm not arguing with e. But then, but that's the thing tons of men be like end this woman, and every time you hear her name is tasked to him. Nobody ever has a problem with that. Nobody's ever, you know, I'll CD's juices is. Oh, she just supposed to deal with that. But when the man he acted sensitive and showing his ass and leaving. I'm supposed to be a poll, you know, bitch. These payments women, you know, what I was by. Great fucking point here. Yeah. I agree. I mean, not that. I don't wanna feel sorry form or anything. But I mean. Yeah. Kind of this kind of thing. Like like like, that's the part of the gig. And this happens to women all the time. They day in married and divorced men that are way more famous than they are. And they every time they going to interview people constantly asking them questions about their mate wasn't McConnell it that used today, Kanye west. He did an album by her ever rose. Right. Every time she comes up. They ask her about bucking, Kanye west. And then people get mad when you decide you don't want that anymore. But you know, it's starting to me more like it was a miscommunication thing like his team told the manager of the of the bar not to bring up those two women, and then the bar owner felt that he needed to tell the audience that. So it sound like miscommunication. I think is weird that he decided to not do the gig off of that. But you know, he got money any more famous than people give them credit for. I mean, the nigga is on Saturday Night Live every fucking week and been there forever now. Like, he ain't exactly a nobody. Right. And he was famously dating Arianna Grandy, and he was famously like vocal about it. They were gonna get married and all this shit. I mean, I can get how he might feel like I wish this would go away. But it is kind of unrealistic to expect this to go away. I mean shit a lot of her fans came fans of him because they were dating so agree. I don't think this is the kind of thing where I'm not him. So it's easy for me to say, but using act. And like I said in in this, no slight. But you know, if a woman would have did that, you know, how many articles would have been written about how unprofessional she was. And how she couldn't handle the stress like, it wouldn't have been this empathy and sympathy, you know, for him because it's the man, you know, amid as just me, and that's that double standard chicken that. I constantly see when it comes to these types of things. But you know, that's of how I feel about it. If this would have been a woman with nobody bidding. I oh ended. But I bet you've got to be professional to get Joe as hand tell these jokes. Whatever it is we signed up for you to do. And then the poll was are you into good times live. Yes. I'm yup. And now, I'm out care. I guess I just want to see what's going to happen. All right. Where it looks like you're in the minority here. Thirty nine percent audience say sign me up and sixty two percents is now I'm out. Oh, I I think it's going to be a shit show. But I watch it and last one was feedback show feedback recap show for them. Throngs within thrones. We had guest alcohol ban on for the recap. And we got seven comments. And then, of course, got many more emails law says yo this is the first time I was able to watch our live on the crown cast, and that was pretty dope. I think my biggest concern about this episode is that I have more nineteen questions than I did before. Like, how is he fireproof? I knew the night. Cain was a completely week to the heat of flames. But he took a whole last lane floor to the face. And I thought that was supposed to be super effective against their tight. There are a lot of people could playing that. Are you got the final blow, but I don't mind nobody can match him inbr- brute strength of so take advantage of his era Gance by being more clever makes sense. Yeah. For the Nike ING going through fire. Some people think he might have been a target area. I don't even think that's what it is. And I'm not one hundred percent sure that being targeting makes you fireproof them because my pointed out there John burned his hand before in another episode like a long time ago. So I don't know man if b. Targeted. Automatically means you're fireproof or not I know deniers is. That being said. It could be that. His magic was strongman Greg by his cO, she it was just impervious to that flame. Like he was is gold. Maybe the other people that he created just didn't have that swag him. Sharon says are you using a similar technique to the watch us against Bryanne to stab the night. King exactly where he was stabbed by the children of the fires while brands stared on thinking in a Spanish accent. I know something you do not know she is not left handed. It was a beautiful scene without references to the past game with wrongs. But with the death of the references to the seven previous seasons. It was near perfection. Yeah. That was that was the thing when she five Ashi airport that move out, of course, brand gave her the knife, which means brand can see everything in the future. He would've known possibly that. That knife was going to kill the nineteen. You know, if you know, so just I don't know it was just interested in this that think about all the levels to this possibly that exist. You know because of how they said it up so. Let's see what else we got a missed one K O J L read and biggie layers and Cheetos voice was so just wow. So appropriate. I like the har- element. They out Walking Dead the Walking Dead. I was trying to stay away for the crowd cast. When I didn't get the notification, I don't know how to fix that. I know it was lit in attack. It was and you need to go to your crowd cast settings and allow it to send you emails on that notify you when we go live. I'm only fifteen minutes into the view, but I had to comment Delaware's air was right. Your boys fan got him killed. I wanna doth Raqi prequel kinfolk rapid a ripened Krakatoa Fargo. Oh. I don't think I want to go through pretty cool. I'm gonna be honest job. I know everybody misses cow Drago, but Dominica's was slim savage, rabies muggers, and he's not the chain. That's clearly going across territory and nutty outs. Comfortable Rena, think pieces about okay back to listen to me. I'll talk about the Brown folks of Asia Africa Esso's had to die instead of using their suppose expert, archery skills, so the northern hillbillies can live and size. It can stay the salt Queen. Though hockey, I'm here for her becoming a new lady Lyneham Mimi anonymous says I agree with you out on the aerial attack before sitting in the death rocky, and they also should have returned immediately to the castle where the snow blind when the snow blind hit, and I on the wall and lit it up from there for a moment. They coulda flambe bait autos walkers before they cross the moat. True. I don't know if it could have got them all just seemed like the numbers of so ridiculous ridiculous because the day have been traveling for a while and memo and told them on got their John axiom about the numbers. And he was like look anybody behind us. They got so they was already big, and basically any in a little city a territory or or anything, they crawls they got got you had the question for me becomes what happened to them Glover's because they said they weren't showing up and I wonder if they lived and didn't come help battle. What was going to happen to them because they gotta like. They gotta get they is cut off. Minaj in Agnes says Danny still has some doth Raqi left probably mostly women and children though. Yeah, we were talking about the people that are gonna fight in the war. So no, we say down, Sean got no doth Rockies. Nobody cares about the women and the children we talking about them on horses. I'm I demand. We bought the PHI oh war against Hersi. Not having fucking bake off. It's a problem. Maybe the show will do a time job because those dragons guy Rick the needed time to hill, plus who's going to clean up autos their bodies, by the way to giant to kill the a more Mont was from hard home and showed up before tonight. Kane did his resurrection move. So it couldn't have been one one who died in winter failed in the battle the bastards. Yeah. Everybody was saying that. But I'm not sure you all right. That's all just saying it could have been different giant. I was waiting for them to show a white ho door, but brand doesn't give a fuck about anything anymore. So the emotional reaction wouldn't be there. I think older guys read at the pieces. Yeah. I don't think we ever gonna see him again. But I I just wanted to see him dowager nice to hear L guy of impressions back on the power. But I wanted him to give a few fan crafts grants before signing off gray show as always the punisher will load as battle should ask them how to pass on killed it. Do you say as great recap of a great episode lay recast goes both of you. Enjoy the show. I tried to. To another recap for another show last year. And all they did was talk about the writers were how stupid things were. And what they would have done people work on shows are usually very talented, very creative people I like snark and constructive criticism. But I don't like mean-spirited critiques if you don't like show fine. But I don't wanna hear it. So I to out the podcast that went to shit on the show for sixty minutes sorry for the rant. But I just have a soft spot for creators writers artists and performers. Yeah. A lot of times that she comes from like bitter as like people that want into the industry themselves or they. Agreed. They're like, I, you know, I I'm a creative. And that gives me car blindster, rip everybody should distress. And maybe it does. I mean, I think the creative process when you look at it professionally as way different than the way a sold to us that are in it. You know, like, you always like, but I know it's hard work behind it to. Yeah. Well, also, just like writers talk about having stuff rip the shreds and presenting in front of a room and. How critical it is. I think what happens now is with podcast and the internet and social media stuff. We're now privy to these harsh critiques from not behind closed doors anymore like for most of us. A book comes out the book came out. That's it. We don't get the viscera version of Mike. And then we told her job. Look, you ain't shit. You ain't digging deep enough. This is stupid take this out like, but we get that. When you listen to a podcast when you listen to read a recap, and some people are just more harsh stores things. And I think we personally tried not to cover stuff that we feel that harshly about right now, not fun right now that we don't feel that way. But I just rather cover things that I enjoy versus cover things that I do not enjoy only one time. Have we done a recap of something? We just Elise me and just in did not fuck with anymore. And that was we were recap and true blood. And by the end. I mean, it was just like we try to find fun and humor in it. But it just was not a good show anymore. And we were just like I literally said, we're not recapping anymore and everyone wrote in like, no, please me. I gotta recap this. And I remember when we got done I said that's the last time wherever doing that on his podcast. 'cause even what people finding fun are jokes. Because you know, we're still funny. It just didn't do nothing for me. Right. It's not enjoyable like. I just kept thinking of high which I quit this show. I think this is my favorite game of thrones episode. I didn't have any problems with you on the show. And I'm glad for that. Everything looked great to me. I watched episode every day since the air. Someone told me a lot of that had to do with people watching them. They are pies and phones and shit and tablets versus it was meant to be watched on the TV correct in HD. Yes. Although I mean, I have the HBO gal app or main y'all the thought about people at home using those two adults to come on. So that's all HBO for not fixing that. Excuse me. I think this is my favorite game with them. So I was like you hope optimism and begin episode when I saw it on source that if I I was pumped question, why do people call John stupid all the time? Is this the bandwagon thing because no one ever can never tell me specifically why he is. I'm not saying he hasn't made mistakes every character has but with John I really just see someone who got a lot of limits. I mean, a whole lot of limits and try to make moving may. I see bravery before stupidity. Okay. Well, I am a person that things John act stupid. I don't they haven't been saying that as much lately because I don't think he's been asked stupid as he was for. He died a lot smarter. I really was rooting for him to die at one point. Because I was like this is the dumbest character on the shows. Like honorable this show is so fucking treacherous. And he just keeps trusting treacherous people over and over it was really getting annoying. And when he got killed. I was like yes, he should be killed EV. Everybody like you literally during the thing people. Hey in a place where everyone hates you. Right. But when he got killed, you know, I was like not really sad. I was like good. That's a good. That's that's the harder show. This showed normally punishes people for being, you know, our noble to appoint a fall, look it. Yes, they do look at Ned look at rob writing that being said when he came back to life after he hasn't been stupid. He's been very much like, hey. Mufflers be killing people. And I'm watching my back now, and he hasn't led a term into like some fucking like week as fearful coward like you still brave. He's still fights. He still is out there trying to make sure happen. But. Yes. So I I feel like, you know, a lot of the hate towards him is probably I dunno people calling him stupid. This point might be just about people wanting to have see Danny on the throne or signs on the throne or search on the throne or whatever. And so now people are picking size. So you have to like really tear somebody down if you like somebody else. And I don't know if you guys are noticing recaps, we're trying not to do that. So I know I make a conscientious effort to not turn the show into let me tell you. What is person ain't shit in my person that I'm picking is the best? And I notice a lot of people on Facebook and Twitter, and she knew that a lot right? Just another peek behind the scenes part of the way that we picked who's going to be a guest on the show is we don't really want to do that on the show. We want to turn the show into jokes in fun. And not a debate about why only the person you like should be on the throne because there's no there's no humor there. You know last week. I had to make fun of signs of for not know how to work a night I'm team size. I love scientists is a high bar by. But that's funny. Yes. That is the joke is not the joke. If you don't make the fucking joke. Right. Like if you if I come on here on on on on Wednesday. And I know that scene whether you hate or love signs of that's kind of a betrayal of what we do it. This show's kind of me being in like, I need to protect this character. These are fictional people. They're not real there's no west Rosen. There's no thrown so always not. So oughta be saying like John has done shit. That's funny. And it was stupid. I just don't find him to be currently doing stupid shit right now. I don't know what people get net. Prime example, when he was he was seeing about it and kept the truck and old John wouldn't have done that. Yeah. That wasn't. Yeah. When you're talking about what Sam was about the diet. Yeah. He looked. He was like I I'm on a mission. I can't help y'all. Yeah. Is it is it is hard for me to hate these characters because they're actors are so good. Have you watched the behind the scenes as it was riveting? Nope. Never watch behind the scenes never read the books. Deal says I forgot to mention my oxymoron to describe to her mind. He's an adorable creek. Thanks to you. And the last of the poll was did theon redeem himself to you. Yes. He's all good now. No, he killed him kids man, or I never had a problem with the care. I guess for me. He he he good. I don't have a problem with with with the way it ended. 'cause Lord knows when he jumped up their boat out the hours like out. There was no way in coming back to me. Yes, he's augured. Now, sixty two percent of people agree with you know, he killed him kids, man. Twenty nine percent of people say fuck that. And I say I never had a problem with the on who I'm like. Wow. Y'all have some different type of folks may burn Burnham kids had no problems on. I think I'm sixty two percent. Now, he died went out the best way you could possibly go out. It's over law says man, re killed them kids and fighting for the living is what he was opposed to do. You don't get prior to that LL even yard tact him instead of thanking him with that said, I respect to three IRA even for not being petty about it as brand I would have been clearly he needed. Those words Sean says he killed them kids before he was wreak historic went from being anxious to being a wretched recompete shit to being knock completely shitty to being an ancient asshole. They had to moments. Definitely here is the mantis, but he was used for. It helps us is a and defending brand. Mimi says I was not mad as well. He saved the sister two thousand not mad is tire cO is I guess the starts he was award. A his real daddy was like don't don't. Never they said he was awarded his real daddy. Yes. Real daddy. Was was was great the graduate cane that was like you you might as well be a stock pitch. I'll catch you fucked up winner fail. I don't care about that shit. His real daddy was like you don't want. You. Don't you want to come home? This is to be expected, but he killed and then burnt them. Little boys to show off. He was in charge this forever wax, hours him, Jamie, a catfish coochie, they Smith. They messed with kids. So they got Stig. Oh, Monique said catfish coochie, you know, who else didn't home then Sirsi fuck the. The Lancaster kid reminded her of Jamie day young boy, there was coach. She why. Why land sold that was? Yes, we're gonna fucking kids Monique that eleven point three percent that never had a problem with theon is interesting. Right. He wild it out. And he took he took winter fell and couldn't even establish himself as leader. And so he was pushed a fake death fake, the death of brand recon. And then it was held and a half asking after that. And he reached where he so out of he so really dark. Knight says man, listen like how whole lot of y'all are such a forgiving mood. I like I like how a whole lot of yards such forgiving move ask those burnt up kids hanging in winter fail. What they think about Charles pave. That's for me and my fucked, and they can forever. A good, man. We're having lease made a night king used three moves for got himself killed basic liking, Alan Iverson, stepping over tyrod Lou. That's what his no dick asks deserves fuck out of here. No. He says the IT eat a dick inhale. Oh. Yapping. I'm over rid. If you think I'm over it up thing him dying was last night. I was like, okay. There's really literally nothing more. You can do. By homey. So. Let's get to update we have a couple of voicemails to play on see this from Tuesday voicemail line. Of course, seven oh, four five five seven zero one eight six, and you can leave voicemails as long as they are two minutes or less because a machine cut you off when you get two minutes. Karen? And rod can I say how elated I am that you guys have been introduced in my world on a weekly basis. Now can't do it on a daily basis. But I did see you on HBO. Dem thrown. I am a huge fanatical game of thrones. And I am just so elated that I am part of your world. Our actually that you that. I have the luxury that you have been ingratiated into my presence on a weekly basis. I wanted to take the time to say, thank you. Thank you. Thank you so much. This is what I needed in my life, and I will be subscribing. So thank the HBO for introducing meet the. Something that I clearly was missing. And didn't know I was missing until I haven't no, I'm quite crack. Honey. So thank you. Thank you. Thank you baby laggy here, baby. We don't I think we've just happy people. Listen, we know it's the people that gonna listen every day, and we know is when people are going to dip it. We don't take it personal. We just glad you're here. Baby, right. Going to miss you at the game of thrones gone. But hopefully check in every once in a while she also left. Another message a little bit later in the day. Hey, karen. And rod so I just signed up on faith. How created an account on pay pal? Inputted my credit card information, and subscribe and got a confirmation from pay pile my subscription should be active. But then when I go back to your website, the blackout his dot com. But I'm not registered. Oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah. Email you for that. Oh, yeah. Email me the bug g mail dot com. If we have probably already fixed, it you probably already have emailed me. If you have it. We got you baby. Sometimes pay power will fuck up. So. Yeah. We'll take care of it for you know, problem of F. Thanks HBO for hooking us up. Vice a lot about us through vice. All right. And this is the last one was this December eighth? So this is today. Okay. Yesterday, a forty-two last night. So one more voicemail, and it will be done. Hi, my name is Chung in a long time listener, I'll try to keep it short. I think it was episode eleven eighty six or eighteen eighty six. I can't remember. And then you're right. You're talking about talking again about how interactions with each other. How scary and different. They can be Lynn there online. And how we react marriage thinking about how a few months ago, I. Block somebody I known since high school. We haven't seen each other in person in years. So apparently, it wasn't that it gets the owner. You have me thinking about that like shit that thinking to you and probably not. But there and guessing we just moved on. And anyway, I am a socialist. But among flu relist. As a black woman, you kinda can't help. But be. Anyway, Irish speaking about how our talk about money. You have to have that sort of genius the Cerro. Sick from fighting through that healthy. Mish records properly. Just got. I'll try back a little later. I'm just sit at home from work. You know, you have to have that PMT Bowers. No, she's everybody gets after for capitals. But. I don't know if she's got something with how she's using money for her ideas. I'm gonna end it. If it hasn't taught me off already try later. Thank you guys lucky. Thank you. And. Yeah, come would made you brought a like, yeah. I know nothing about that too. Like, I have a lot of I just have one of those brands that goes over like conflicts and people have, you know, like either fell out with especially if I know him in real life. I've had to change a lot of my perspective though, being quote, unquote, very little, but internet popular is different than forging real relationships with people and read, you know, we know things get put to the test. A lot of times you realize why you can't only invest so much time and something that's not really real out of time. Right. Like. And you know, and I think also like because of social media that we have some shortcuts rights nothing that nobody would have taken time the internet condenses time, and what people fail to realize you can't push pass time because time will tell the truth about anybody in a relationship or anything, you'll life only time will tell and if you've convinced something and try to bypass time and the relationship lasts long enough time will tell if the relationship was real over the relationship was not because something will happen accomplished a foul out disagreement. Something will happen to let you know where this. Relationship whatever the relationship is where it stands for both parties and for self one party for both parties are might be important for one party. It is one party is not difficult part. Is it really wasn't that important? But only time can tell you that. And I just the thing. I always worry about our hesitate about our think about is just as the callousness with which we can get rid of each other. It doesn't feel right. And I think. The the -bility for people now to find their words to create their own narrative that that s wages any level of responsibility from them is so scary to me because we're so smart, but we're still the same dumb human beings. We always were right? So we have bigger words, we have flowery language, but do we really have the emotional maturity, or do we just now have the words to express our emotional image? Immaturity in big big language, right? And I've been I've been on both sides of that. Right. I've I've felt or done something petty and then been like, I this I feel about this shit. And this is why I'm right. And I go back later and revisit it. I'm like, I wasn't even really right about that shit. Or, you know, maybe I was you know, whatever. And I've been on the other side was somebody is just like light me up or creating their own. Like, this is what the real problem is. And. You know, and I'm over here on my side. Like, you're lying to people. This is not what happened. This is you create your own reality that is not warranted. Because you just you're seeking this approval on the internet, you're seeking out of stuff, and then even the process of like seeking counsel seeking confirmation from people online. We don't know them people. You know, he's like what does this confirmation really gonna do for us like so I don't know there's a lot of questions, and I know we continually talk about this all the time. But it's it's it's one of the most important I think conversations that we have going in Saudi right now is this roller. This new tool that is in our lives and anyone who denies the power. And the presence of social media is either in the stone age or fool because I mean, literally this shit changed. The course of the American election. So anybody that, you know, maybe people get tired of hearing us talk about it, which is fine. There's plenty of shows. They talk about other things. But I I'm always going to be obsessed with it because you especially doing we do we need it to live. But we also have to be wary of the hooks. They can get into you and being on both sides of that. So and the second thing you brought up about socialism and capitalism and all this stuff is interesting right because people shit on capitalism, but a lot and I'm conflicted because I'm black and I'm in America. I don't worship capitalism by any means. And I absolutely understand that now size of it. But at the same time, this rigged system is the system we have at the moment, right? And to be in denial of that isn't necessarily empowering to me. So we may need people that have money to make changes in a society that is based on the currency of money in maybe those those changes will. Be better and work. And maybe they won't you know. But I I don't know. I don't penalize especially black people for trying to figure something out. When it comes to this money shit. You know in this weird that people go up beyond say, go down, Jay z, and that's really more about liking or dislike enough particular person because they really be saying the same shit in a lot of cases, you know, just word wrapping into wants thing in it. You know, so. Yeah, that's that's what I think about it care anything. I think for me the. I appreciate the way your mind takes because I do have compassion, and empathy and sympathy, but I think our lines on different places. Your line is a little further out. My line is like, oh, look me. Yes. Okay. Yeah. Like like when it comes to certain things, you're you're willing to go a little bit further than mean. I'm like, oh, no bitch. We hear stop. I'm out, you know. And I and I will stop at a certain point. And I'm and I'm like, I'm not going any further than this. I've invested all I can invest versus you like, okay. Let me get to the point. But well, whatever you went into exhaust and tunnel all stones. And it's not that. I'm not willing to is just for the fact that as I've gotten older, it's not that I've become cynical or mean or anything like that is just when I was younger. I got used in pews a lot a whole lot. So my line is not as far as yours because I'm like, no, no, no. No, no I've seen this before. And I'm willing to draw my lines. My rope ain't as long as it used to be and I will cut it off. And then I know we're not going into for the here if that means this relationship ends it is what it is. But I know that I appreciate you for challenging me to actually look a little further NBA, look a little deeper before you cut it off sometimes because sometimes if you give it that feel for six or ten th glance you might realize that hey, I'm might not be looking at it. Right because lot of times when people look at things they're only looking at it from their perspective and lot of times your is. Are you looking at things through rose could've classes because you're owner looking through things from your experience. You're not even considering the other person, they experienced their perspective had a view things had a see things and stuff like that. So it challenges you to actually challenge me to actually have more of it. I do have it. But to have more of it because. Yeah, it sometimes I'm like what I'm glad you're doing that. But I'm not. Yeah. No. I totally get it. And I'm learning to be more like that as well. Like for me. I think I was giving people too many chances, you know, and try to see things where people's respect as too much sometimes an that Li that, you know, especially like a couple of years ago when I was like I I mean to be Frank like that shit helped out the business as well. Because I was like I was gonna say yesterday's. I normally wouldn't I'm going to say, yes, the people I normally wouldn't and, you know, for the overall I burnt myself out in a in a big way. But I also got relationships I wouldn't have had otherwise. And you know, I got. And I learned some lessons. I wouldn't learn you out. I'm glad I'm glad to be learning. These lessons on the small-scale when these fuckers ain't shit. Then the be like, wow, I really fucked up this contract with which such a you know, whatever like to learn the lesson. Now, it's kind of the thing. And I am not. And I think it really helped me to step into my kind of twenty eighteen twenty nineteen mantra, which is why I'm going to be so positive about myself, and I'm going to be so affirming to myself, and I'm going to be so. You know, committed to like the things that I find to make my life better and improve it and mentally make it better. And those things are really flourish for me. And I so much of just took care of yourself. Like, straight up is cry. It's it's almost crazy. How much it has taken care of yourself like people that were ragging our name. Just shut the fuck up. You know, people that were, you know, harassing us just stopped people that was spitting lies about us. I stop seeing stop hearing about it because I don't look for and you're entitled to that opinion. You know, I still remember a few years ago when I looked on like a lipstick Allardice form about it. And like my feelings were hurt like, oh, they don't like all the stuff on the show. And I let it fuck with me. And I was like that. And I'm thankful for them because they taught me something about myself. Like, oh, I'm basically like emotionally cutting myself like there's part of me that was a dicta- to being hurt by these people as so because they they deserve to have their they desire to be like fuck this show. I don't like the diggers. I don't like the attitude they deserve to be able to say all. All those things, and it's not my business. Correct. And I took that into my personal life as well. And it's really enhanced everything about it. I feel like I'm gonna healthier happier. Fuller person human being. That while I do care about other people, I extend that caring to myself now to be like I care about how I feel how I feel matters to write, you know, used to be a time. And when I was pushing Masha decided to be like how everybody else feels about me is what's important, the kinda manipulative people that that that that really like look for those type of folks they were in my life. Right. They were affecting my life. They were making me I was getting ill feelings around. Folks. I was like people were making me literally sick to my stomach, you know, and I'm like, where's his energy coming from? And I know it's such a like weird hippie thing to say, but that energy, I could feel it, and it really was fucking my life up. You know, our stressing me out about shit. I was you know, not sleeping writing. I not, you know, having nightmares and shit like, and I'm like, where's this energy coming from? And I don't feel that way all anymore. You know, I was getting panic attacks in nerves from just interacting with certain. People because they were just that negative and even when they weren't directly being negative to me. I was watching them be negative to other people because it's their currency on the internet is how they live is sitting on stuff. And so I'll to say like. You know, when it comes to that internet relationships of I'm more careful about just even calling somebody a friend. Agreed. You know, there's a lot of people I'm cool with. But now, we ain't friends, you know, because you start extending that type of language and then star acting like y'all got a fucking I dunno swat blood at the next. You know, it was like, nah, it's just is cool like, and I, and I, you know, always questioned like the people that have the like supernatural expectations of friendship like I was sad. And nobody gave me a phone call my nigga. I I'm not psychic. You know what I mean? I don't even have those abilities to be able to like I can feel someone's in need all the way in Portland or whatever. Like, yo you have to own your own shit. We all making it through life the best. We can you know? So that's that's those are just lessons. I learned. And like I say it helped me to cut things off to mostly just out of. You know, focusing on the positive shit. And that doesn't mean every time somebody has a bad day on my fuck, you nigga. It just means in general, I have to stay grounded in like, these are the things that feed me, you know. Correct. Correct. I know for for me. I've I've I've grown learn. And I've challenged myself, which I tried to my best eighty to actually just be a better person and part of being that bit a person like you said before and I agree with is understanding the relationships in. Why we why we're quick to cut people off while we'll quick to not have as much patience while we were quick to not want to be bothered with people when we would not want that extend it to us. And I think a lot of times the end result of the internet actually affecting your real world life, your everyday life life, you know. And and and I think that the internet has been a wonderful place for me. And like, I said some of my best friends that I have right now, I met through the internet so eight is now all bad, you know, but it's one of those things with the internet for anybody is very difficult to navigate at I'll tell you this much too. I knew some changes me when are having conflicts with people or something, and I'm just like, I'm not even interested in telling people about this motherfucker, correct? That was a time with the show and everything where I'm like this person gave me dirty. I'm about to put this nigga on blast. Because fuck there would look how they are people. You know, I'm exposed the world to these fucked up people, and you know, there's like I realized over the years like, that's just my insecurity talking because what I'm trying to do is have other people see this thing and go Roger not crazy. This person's fucked up. Right. And and I'm not saying I would never do it again. I mean, if a nigga push me far enough or this right back like, I'm I'm definitely a fighter. I'm not a I'm not I'm not a you just don't allow me and fuck my name up, and I'll just take type of person. And if people can't understand that then they just don't understand me. I'm not I gotta limit just like everybody else. Agreed. But in general, though, there was there's people that, you know, I I'm doing the favor to them to lead to just be like, I don't want to talk about these things. Right. I'm not gonna drag. My life down into this. I'm not going to drag me negatively into this. I'm not gonna make my show about this. I'm not gonna turn something that's fun for people into a personal soap opera me beef. And with this other person, or whatever or even really giving that person putting them on my level. Like, we're now. Now, we're equals in in this problem. Like, no, no, I have to learn to be the bigger person and move on because I'm already too big a person like it's not going to either way it's not going to be fair. If I say, some it's going to be why are you picking on me? And if I don't say anything, they're going to continue to say, no bullshit to people, and you know, what that's kind of gig now, but that's kinda gig. So I had to learn how to like fucking lie. You know, I had to learn how to to navigate all that stuff. But I'm gonna work in progress like everybody else, and there was no blueprint for this shit. It right. It was no blueprint. And I say every now for that. I think I have a little bit more patients than you in that particular area is brought you know, like like push. Shing in those types of things, I'm a fighter too. But my side, and it gets very different. And the thing is for me. When is when I put my dukes up, and I say, okay is time for a fight. I I'm the type of person when I get to that. I'll look you in trouble. I mean, I'm not trying to be funny. Well, we've never nobody on this shows ever heard you do something like that. So. So, and I I mean, we've been together forever. And I don't know if I've ever seen you do something like that. So I just don't think you would or is. I haven't ever seen it if you would. But I I don't think you would you know, what I only had that happen. Maybe once in my lifetime and it freaked me out. And scared me so bad that I promised myself that I would never get to that point again. Like, honestly. So I was like, yeah. I'm like, I said me personally, I'm not afraid that you and other people that I know in real life that are my friends at care about me talk me out of like going at folks before and and I'm and I'm thankful for because ultimately I ended up being happier. Not keeping the Chicago. It, you know, and if those people want to be stuck in that place, they the negative we stuck there, you know, but I didn't know that years ago. Like there was times where I would have tried to solve it. You know, there's that thing inside of me that as you say gives people tan chances I'm looking. For resolution. I'm trying to talk to you. And it wasn't really until the last couple of years. I learned oh some people when they act up like that. And they go from zero to one hundred from unit grades to the worst. Hey, you know, what you just gotta let them go. Sometimes, you know, like, it sucks. These are not your real people, and you need to go. Find your people, and that's a process this learned over time and also just life and life experience and me dealing with people kind of little bit of everywhere and just having these conflicts where people over and over again and various different ways taught me that lesson taught me that hang is certain situations. I cannot give you the attention because that's what you want because loans, you get the attention. We are both right here. Well, I think you you just also naturally freeze his predisposition to not be like that. Correct. I'm not you know, what I mean. Like, I said, that's what my to learn like, I'm very much a give what you get type of person. And like, I I'm a libra up and down. If you nice to me, I will be nice back to you. Even if I don't really like yours, I'll still be cordial to you because that's the kind of person, I am I'm put the same energy back towards you. But if you start fucking with me and mine is hard for me to let go it's hard like it's because because I have a sense of Justice. It's like this shit. Ain't right. And people should know how you how you get down. Like you want to you know, what I'm saying? Like that is part of me that is always gonna be in me. And you know, and then it just when you get to our starting station, and I'm not even saying we I don't even feel like we blown up or none of this shit saying when you get to a certain station is like that's not productive right now making my thing about your thing. I'm making my life about your feelings. And that's not that's not fair to me. That's not fair to the people around me. And it's definitely not fair to our audience. You know to do that, you know, and then there's also the added element of and this is you know, wouldn't fire started should happened. There's a lot of people that just want to see a fight. They don't actually. Give a fuck about anyone being right around who's involved? They just wanted to entertainment and watch people take out the Dow and to resist that impulse and the be adamantly against that. I mean, there's going to be people that's gonna try to go into. And that's one of the main things I learned from that situation. We learn it. This is not a blueprint. Business did not exist. Like what we do for a living. Did not exist before you know, we started really doing. It are the way we do it. You know, people still don't think we should be like this doesn't make sense that we're able to make a living doing this. So yeah, I I don't I mean, I don't have all the proper things and stuff. So, but we're learning, you know. Yeah. That's the same learning and growing and evolving, and everybody's seeing those growed SPN as learn he see this evolved. They're seeing this change like we're lily a working process in front of everybody else. Right. Which mostly begin to do it in the privacy of their homes. We had to learn, you know, a and brought up in the chat room does oppose positive shit. Yeah. I had to learn that there's places where if they're talking about you is not going to be good. So why would you even want to know? You know what I'm saying? Like like, it's just at some point. You just have to be like, okay code. This is a different. Aspect to my life that I didn't think I would have to deal with because I never picture myself doing what we're doing. So great, you know, just trying to learn to step into it. And a lotta times the negative people. They don't be wrong because they see more for your life and you see for yourself. And I know that's been the case with me and many many a time. I don't have big dreams and shit. So like, you ain't never shit on me by being like, you ain't as popular as you pack. You is like I don't care. I I wish I was a little less popular. It's a little too much right now. They can I was deprived. I got this. Right. Like, so you know, that ain't never been. No insult too young to your boy, you don't know admiration. Yeah. I'm not sitting up here. Like, where's remember for my closeup, Mr. DeVille, you know, fucking uncomfortable? I was cameras in my house was two times. No initiate is going out to the world. I just made it look cool. Right. I made it look like I wasn't frigging out. I was frigging the fuck out. Why you're like oh this. She could be horrible. I don't know. I hope they do is. Right. You know, I gotta go to the next session real quick. And we'll come right back. And also, all right. And we're back. But yeah. So there's all process, but yeah. I often think about social media she because there's a lot of interaction that I have that takes up more time and stuff, and I'm trying to find ways to make it take less, and and I've been really doing good with that. So, but it's still something to think about because I just think it how it's going to affect the world, and I bet Mia cairn and y'all listeners and all we're just a microcosm of this thing. That's going to affect the rest of the world. And so much of the things we talk about happening on social media. Now, how many times something makes news that's the laboratory or a riot or protest or it's the president of the United States. Like, this is not a thing you can just ignore or it'd be like, oh, do you talk about social media is shaping the fucking world. You should be talking to be paying attention to what's happening. It's not just because you're ignorant to what's happening. Doesn't mean. It's not affecting you. Right. And then they won't impact your life is some way shape, boom of fashion with laws that are passed on all. The levels. All right. We had some emails now all game of thrones related, and this is the last thing and we'll get out of here Mazda. Hey, Ryan can straight to the point I'm exhausted. After watching the episode what the hell brand hold on. I have to record. This white is recipes little lady more, my you're a brave it's in a real win. I had a single tear rolling down my face. She died takes him instead to glad beyond his dead three. Okay. Calm through aria, clap emojis. That's what our motherfucking talk about girl. Our so scared you my nigga aria always a forever Knight. King slayer come on. I never watching this episode. I feel like I ran ten miles. It was amazing least shot is scripted. But never watching it again. I stopped reading too many times. I love y'all so many damn emotions MR. Thank you. Thank you on. And. Yeah, that's pretty much after watching it. Leshan rice and the doctor. A says game with Donald feedback. Y'all are going to cover this. Well, saw mood us over to y'all gonna cover this. Well, I so I know so I'm not going to write a novel. This was yeah. Thank you for having faith in us. Okay. It's probably a right in these long things. I'm like, did you not think we would talk about it? This was a great episode. I did not see this anywhere. Are you being MVP the way she was? But in hindsight amazed sense brute strength, which is where everyone else was coming from Danny with the dragons, Johnny John with his experience experience. Brandon giant, Jamie Torma juror. All battlefield warriors is never gonna win this. That was basically cannon fodder reupped troops with a Nike are still at the ads having learned from seasons. One. How important it was to move like a cat being told by Mila, Sandra? Either sees the two or three how she would close all the is. And that callback being brought back here. It was wonderful. Also, did you see that food grand? I know you. Tonight. Cain granted Danny and drogue on like you hit like a bitch. And I, but I wasn't ready for him to grant at her yellow he smoked he smiled so hard at that motherfucker in dragon. Not you got me. I was hurt. I was like oh God. No. This is the scariest she and I haven't seen. My y'all about the doctrine it just showed up. He's mile like Hawaii Leonard like like, he has never smile. Recording his life anyway odyssey re recipes baby bear, she went out like a real. Also, what's next because they got maybe thirty people that's been drug on. I'll write Ray Reagan is okay. But he dropped a John off after being shredded by viscera on. And we ACM says. Yeah, I think he's fine. Okay. Goes out. Now love y'all to biz. I think they not them dragging obviously gonna need the hill. But I think they alive, and I Brian. Yeah. One of them day. Yeah. Game. Mcdonald's battery winter fit all my guy. Hi, rider care. Adrian happy happy day at the Mahar has been torn out and dragged through the winter storm day, I saw vendors in game on Sunday morning and watch game of thrones the same evening, this that was not wise. Those like it was like ribbon abandoned, I'll fast the pain is all at once with lingering steam I wanted to write you last week. We're really only had one thought to share that. It seemed like hormone interior had become the comic relief, which I was happy about where they weren't comic relief this week. I couldn't tell the Torma even lived. I hate he was out. He persists with Bryanne who was clearly not interested. But at the last week if he lives this week, I'm hoping she gives them a chance, I think. Yeah. I think it's kinda funny because why clearly term is effort humor clearly his affection for ran this for humor was supposed to feel like it's harmless and cute, and I can see how some people would feel like annoy by because it just real life shit. But I've allowed. I'm I'm allowing the show to just, hey. Hey, y'all wanting to be Q on retreated like excuse. Yeah. And I think like you say the last episode there was no jokes when he looked in. Juror was riding back looking like he had just seen different is. Children's God jokes who's gone. Fuck. The he doesn't deserve or Denison andbranch forgiveness and uplift. Just buck him. I'm glad day. Finally. I'm also glad he did that was as far as they can take care of them. So yeah, yeah. Yeah. He wouldn't go. No further, you know, only on a more my head to be among the death toll was she took our unday giant. That was a fitting death. What a bad ass and finally unto onto the best bad ass in the series aria. My sneaky girl aria who snuck past the entire night king's army to kill him. I chaired and clap. I started reading the books in two thousand eight she's been my favorite character since the beginning ish of book one so awesome. Looking forward to hearing your recap episode have a lovely week. Thank you. She's nothing like she got help from doctor strange making them circles. Woo last Adam thrones Monique REIs, and hey rod and Karen, we made it through random thoughts here that might be the most hype episode in the history of TV that completely exceeded this expectations. When is are you start going to announce her candidacy for president of the United States? Right. Democratic party. Not as wet though ahead, and they got put fat people already in the in the mix or girl will get the votes who's a big name. Then maisy ambience say right now, the worldwide appeal of the show and the moment of killing the night came makes her a rockstar everywhere. She goes it's so deserving says season two she's been carrying her own plotline masterfully, she saying terrified at facing the dead initially because anyone would but she got out of that. How hall using all her metal gear solid moves come out as a good call? Can we talk about the night king had the bags finally security? Somehow squandered around shaking my head got to replace that twenty eight three falcon Super Bowl disaster. Fuck this bag up thing. I think people don't understand is like the Nike takes all along to kill brand was basically pulling over in. Right. Gluten. Was moving mass slow to kill brand name them in a rap video and everything walking up in now. Right. He was just cruising could've just ran up on that, man, and Slade him instantly. Instead he was doing that avenue dog in the race. But the juxtaposition of Danny almost dying to say failed time and time again while Stein's was in the crypt throwing dirt on her. Name was stunning one time comes to mind what kind of Queen am. I if I'm not willing to risk my life for my people saying, it's your move says that episode apply. Maximum I think sizes absolute key to defeating seriously. So I cannot wait to see a game plan. No one knows thirsty like signs of she is a superior tactician with plenty of Steph this. Agreed. I think that at the did there. I think sons of my my my guess that sounds soften about her. And be like, you know, what you deserve it because you use after hours Becky with anybody else. You use out there? And if it wasn't for you, we everybody would have died. And so I really do think her perspective with chains. And yes, she knows soci- better than anybody else. Yup. I may. I'm just ruined for all the good people, man. I don't like I'm just not a specially this last he's I'm just not into like tame, this one person versus debt. So for me. I'm like you're going to need Danny Amazon's hopefully, you're going to need aria anti is. It's not just going to be you know, you're gonna eat John. And Danny like, I hope it's not just gonna turn into. And then they all turn on each other. And this shit is wack. Why? Nah. The Thursday is in power, you'll have less numbers in before your recovering from battle. Brian is on his way to kill Jamie interior, like muffins need to get information. The plan to protect the exterior west winter whale winner fails, it was great to start out. But what on earth was Danny John's supposed to be doing L O L face palm. When they was. No one to light the trench. Even though I felt like the trench wouldn't work Danny and John should've been lightened army up front and back on the back of the trench. The the thing with the extinguish that fire by just laying over top of it. But who would have no did it seem like the night came did some has you know, from from white Massereene for the whites to sacrifice themselves. PD? I think he was wargin though. I don't think it was a handsome. I think he he control shit the way brand, but just on a bigger masterful level. All right now, he can see things through there is right. Yeah. I think it was just directing them or some shit. If felt like John chase tonight king on foot for a map for like a mile in a feeble attempt to get pinned down is dragging. Then nigger ranch so long, and it was always low most into that Hanno. Oh, God, that's one of the greatest scenes in TV history. Oh, man. Just reliving. And I'm getting I'm getting getting all like worried about this nigga again. 'cause I was like everybody everybody. Everybody going die. Down the rare warmer here everybody with the Magic Johnson shit. I ain't been to be here tomorrow after you get out. Are key hoard is gone. Most of the us go outta POC's die for the people to win a fail. Maybe they will stop giving them the racist. Clint Eastwood stare now. So so very ungrateful the way the I suddenly had that type formations to help the forces retreat. Stunning. Speaking of gratitude, the active play grey, worm Riley, Richie is a musician has a really dope song time in the tree the black collectors she hit him with some streams truly glad here. Masan de made it to the next episode. That was really allows for retirement for water. Yeah. Oh, man hours really mostly rooting for them to naked live. So everything really turned out. Okay. I'm glad they got the night king or whatever. But I just need him assigned. The great worm on that beach, the fight for a sir brand of tar rages on who's going to win her love in the end. Yeah. Neither Jamie your term on. So that can keep going question. Now, the night king has gone if you were to Stark's, would you would you? Trust Jamie to stay with your side and not double cross you and go back to surf daddy. I mean. Yeah. And I think also when brand when Brian's come up there and try to kill them niggers. It's going to be quite obvious. What side they have to be on a right because I think everybody gonna learn at the same time the yes, yes, we side. And I think him leaving without their army people underestimate how much how much that spoke to search. And at that point. She was like Lookie you Brin embryonic had his back in front of everybody vouching for all right? And then there's the other part where like a I think they're going to have to do something that shows everybody that certainly like is not fucking around. So I think maybe like Brian trying to kill them or some would be the ultimate like, oh, we don't even need to question their allegiance, you know. But I I don't know. I mean, I would hope that that would be the end of it. I mean, they did fight them niggers together. Well, I don't know what else to do. I mean, he was prepared to that. Yeah. The the city has a heck of a battle the the detail. They need to give the legends their flowers lately. Yana killed a giant white aria. Kill the night king Danny wilder disorder stood tall serve. React commanded those forces. Whereas all over the place overall, the fire the fire shots were studying in the ground battle amazing dragging flying above the clouds. This is more than worth it. I feel for those who don't watch yet complain why fans of the show. I haven't the time of our lives. Yeah. Be saving side to Monique aka Cam dot. Yeah. I, you know, it's funny, man. I was thinking of the day like some I use the hash tag on Twitter and says on the fucked up about the show, whatever and or nine fucked up. I just like I'd only like this rod Mobile's sometimes and the kind kinda boring. Whatever I reply back. Like, look, you know, thanks for giving us a chance. Yes. I feel. We're not for everybody. And you know, hey, totally get it. You know? I'm sure there's plenty of the shows for the listen to you know. Another person hit me up. And it was I forget what their complaint was. I was like you probably going to say stop listening. But I don't like this and other. And I said thank you for giving us a chance. You know? Right. What am I gonna say the you didn't have to listen even a little bit? You did listen Ryan, you found it not good, so cool and. And. I did I thought about gave it throws this morning. And I was like so people don't like game of thrones. And they adamantly be out here talking shit. So or they don't watch. Right. So who to fucking modern you got it like the blackout tips. Hey, man is PY here. They really not fucking with the best thing on TV. Somehow, they find it to be not adequate enough in some kind of way. And I'm like if there's people that can't like this shit, and they it's under the millions of dollars invested in this show come on. Then of course, they don't like my little last podcast. It's fine. We'll be good. We'll be all right, baby. We will survive, and you will too. Yeah. It'd be alright manager, you know, and I cannot wait for. Serb ran to walk around with her new title when people start addressing her lady. She, but I check the name tag bitch almost, sir. Checking numbers beach. He said, yeah, he says, hi rotten care. I must say that my only complaint the last episode that it was hard to see because everything was dark, but other than that this episode was great. They did the throaty so dirty, but we expected a large casualty count, and there was no one in that group who particularly stood out at the cow Drago. The good news is is a doesn't have to worry about feeding as many people at the tonight and she showdown baby. Yeah. And I I still feel like maybe I'm the only one, but I felt like the dark helped. But also, I did watch it on TV is four K got the whatever, you know, settings and shit. So maybe it really wasn't as dark as other people's. I don't know. I kinda glad and I am one of those people that like goes into TV and fucks with the settings to get department patriot. 'cause what I don't like about the four K TV's day. So dark just on the home setting right on the setting that you get when it comes out of the box. They 'cause they have like. Whatever they call it dark. I forget what such technical time. But they have that like complete black screen. The thing is blankets the black year. So supposed to make other pop all pop out. And I don't watch anything that black. So and I don't like to because I can't see shit. So like when I will play Netflix on it in four KB dark is fuck. Oh, I want to say it is like this. I I didn't pay extra money for this. I switched to set in. So maybe that's why I didn't bother me. I'm glad most of the Medicare justified because I believe that the show has been working to the battle for the throne. And I do believe they'll be a lot more casualties in recipes that dollars s our friend zone or more my Barrick as for Misawa. Fuck you you should bitch. You shoulda died at the stake like Cherie and theon by nigger. Yes. Interesting because Mila cider was definitely the MVP. The probably was co MVP. Yeah. But the I mean, that's just one battle y'all been doing some fucked up shit for a long time for a loan for the realist, lady, the island more Mont, the north will always remember you for the G that you were less poor one out for in her honor. What can I 'cause you know, she even said like how people had a strength of ten million. She was like, it might not be a lot. That's a bitch. We can fuck shit up and she proved and they watched that gate. What can I say that has already been said about aria motherfucking start? I love that. She was the one to take out the night came because I didn't see that coming. Everyone thought it would be job. But his dumb ass was trying to take out the whole ice dragging aria has been training for this moment on life thirsty. You going down bitch dodge, Amy die. I wish you would have died. I hate you your piece of shit fucking forever. I think you've been today. Jamie going down. I going down but Daming jail. Jamie's going my brand. Is there in the corner? Just waiting on it. He just walk in the room and be like, what's he doing here? And then you get killed and brand just like I need to see that. Lisa, right. Saying gradients, lady and Lord of house tips. I hope this raven arrives in town in time for the game of thrones recap. I started listening you guys and sees the six, and you never disappoint. Anyway. I'll keep this brief some things you did not keep this week. What does finally so? I love people say I will keep trying to keep this show at I'm looking at the Email did not show it something's stuck out to me while reading everyone's hashtag hot takes on Twitter regarding Danny John brand being useless in about battle for winter fail. Yes are the killing blow, but she needed help to get there. It was a team effort nanny and John were able to kill thousands of wise on top of the dragons injured or white with Syria and go get the night king on the ground. So he couldn't do anymore damage brand used his wargin as a signal to allow the nineteen to locate him. Plus, he gave the cats Paul dagger. To argue last easy and knew she'd be the one to use it everyone who fire help keep the swarm of dead man from women the castle when John was yelling at the is dragging. He was at the inches of the guys was some believe they saw aria tried to create a diversion to allow her to get there to get the brand in time. Yeah, let's say confirm that next week. I'm not rolling with. That's what he what happened. I've seen people. Try to do that. But most of the people that try to do that are trying to take away from aria being the one that killed listening. Lease it d- the fucking like agendas around this. I had no idea they everywhere. Yeah. Like, I low key. Just don't engage what people about game of thrones theories online. I just stopped talking to them naked. They are who they are really crazy about this. They are mad. The degrom kill aria has been a warrior since like season one halfway through she'd been learning how to fight lot. Why are they matter of fact season one episode once she was shooting arrows like is crazy to me that people really want to take this away from her because they had these visions of like John being like the the white man savior of the whole world. I am because he didn't get the killing blow on the nineteen all of a sudden they they feel like he was usurped. They feel like he was not giving enough like validation or whatever. And I'm like this whole fucking show is about you. Surfing the tropes is building you towards the tropes a fantasy NBN light. But we knock on do just the same way. So I can't believe this guy. So mad about it. But I think that's just the internet. Now, you've got the gamer gate negative light. We hate women. I hate cat tomorrow. I hate, you know, everything that people like I hate they aren't there to the extreme. And that's why you know, the the thing about the theories of under people have their own theories and things like that. But the thing is I'm me and read about it. We know where we got our sources from when you know, but we don't know what other we got their stuff from like say people actually dig in and fon spoilers and things like that. And I'm like, no, I'm not gonna argue with you, also, even if she did fucking do about herself and. I mean, she has been living as a little girl in west rose in the most treacherous place for fucking elbow light. She might be able to kill a nigga wasn't. It was some some quickness. It's like, they won't know create it. Yeah. I don't get it. Other random thoughts. I'm happy. It was aria not John not just because it's the prize unpredictable, but also because of the reaction from angry misogynous, the term marriage through trended on Twitter, right after if you heard it before, you know, the only female characters get this sort of treatment. Yeah, they tried to do it with Ray from the last Jedi. I just don't there's a whole point. There's a whole like contingent of nerd, Nick. I just do not talk to fuck with Dame. They just are not valuable people the dot Iraqi Kelly died protecting those races as northerners. I know it was ultimately a fight for humanity. But more black and Brown lies Larson, the war numbers. Why's and I've only seen black fans acknowledge that yet. Another reason I'm glad I found a blackout tests. I don't get this perspective for me. The other recasts listened to they say all the diverse, man. Like, I was looking at them numbers. Like come on. Now. Like somebody somebody step up. Oh god. No, Mon negatives done. But you know, what that's just like everyone real life. Come negus. Go up front. Message put out a black people on infantry and shit. Lastly, I love signs of autism say air pride in representing the north. But did she come out ungrateful regarding Danny after this battle was has finished Danny has pretty much. No army only to injure dragons to fight against searching for the crown. I won't change of for not being able to fight with the dragon Queen. She dislikes so much without risking life or troops for the good of mankind off. She's see what we see her come to terms with that. And the next up. So yeah. But in all fairness, we also got to see what happened outside the crypt. And she didn't like she saw about ten minutes as she had to go inside. So she don't even know that Danny literally got off that dragon was women. People ask you're going to end up telling the ABC, I was out here fighting to right? So and not sincerely hope they come to some type of resolution because I didn't think loop it, right? I really like it's stupid in terms of like. For the bigger picture of what they want to see to care 'cause I really value in like, and even John John too because John is go whole you gotta claim to the throne because he's a secret son of a God target area. Like all that shit to me is not that important. And I hope these last three episodes they come to some conclusions about that. And that is not them killing each other or being shady to each other. Hopefully is them being like, nah, fuck Sirsi. We can talk about all this shit at in the aftermath of FOX, I agree. And I think John is going to be like, hey, I don't want to throw in. I support you. Eventually, they're going to have a talk and you'll be like, I, you know, I don't want that title, right, right? Last week. I love hours away. I'm sorry. I did that thanks for reading my ramblers. Lots of lovely to as always with K blackness ever dean from beyond the while Canada. Thank you for right, man. He Lisa and think we have one more or less. Give guess okay. Why did it? Okay. Yeah. We got one more from shanty. What up care in Iran longtime is dropped that little feedback. But it's dim thrones time shot the fire starter, and I got to get these words. So you won't be a all day. I'm gonna be quick with these recipes to my nigga tonight. Kane I was ruined for you Tyra gift. I was looking forward to see how you were decided to halls deck Daza winner fail with the bows volume. Fe are faves you fucked up take your sweet ass time. Try and kill brand come on. And now, look what happened to you are your bus y'all ads down to the slushy my g now, you let this happen. All right. Y'all crashes bast is is this babies. I see why you Laos. 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