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EP104: Revolutionising the Traditional Hair Salon with Ricky Walters of Salon64

How To Cut It in the Hairdressing Industry

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EP104: Revolutionising the Traditional Hair Salon with Ricky Walters of Salon64

"This is how to cut it in the headrest an industry podcast show with dumb lane episode number one hundred four. To how to cut it in the head in industry. This show you that gives you the insights, it Historisches and information to take your Hedrick and offering to the next level as your host. Dumb. What combat to how to cut in the headrest in industry poker show with myself, Dumblane episode number one hundred and four on the puck house today, revolutionizing the traditional hair salon? And if you like what you hear make sure to subscribe to the show to get new episodes every week. This week on how to cut it. It will come from not being satisfied with how a regular Salam, the first thing you'd have to think is do you like how you'll salmon looks again? I always believe that something compe- truth to innovate a make something better. So it was a little kind of born some that how do we solve this property of the phone charge of makeup? Whatever it is problem, and it stemmed from that. So I would probably look at your phone inside. What is what can you do better? So we have all of this, and more coming up in today's podcast because we could be joined, but top London, hairstylist, Ricky Watters, who's a salon owner and creator of sullen sixty four, which is a solemn concept that is revolutionizing the traditional Hansel now on, I met, Ricky back at the start of this year, two thousand nine nineteen, I take product development event, and I got into Ricky and the first thing that really struck me about him was how visionary he is. And he's. Nobody is looking to challenge the norm and exactly what he's done with his son Lonnie is really pioneer in take on the traditional original French Celanese broody into the modern as he's going to be sharing this with us today and we're going to be learning all about this space. The he is created, which includes the fire pits the style bar the bar, and the private volts and we cover all about this. We're gonna learn how Ricky came up with this social hub ways patriots salon clients compete retreat, work, and enjoy a host of Starling and pampering services. So if you somebody who is looking to setup maybe your own Salam, but becoming booed of the same traditional model that we see in the hair industry. And you need that, inspirational out of the box thinking to the salon of the future, then a guaranteed this episode. We've Ricky is required listening for you now before we get. Into this brilliant episode today, I just want to give a shoutout to our friends and sponsored the hell to cut podcast crummy towels who are providing a sustainable, and biodegradable alternative to cotton Taza by using screamy towns, you will never need to do asylum laundry again on now using scrimmage towels in my salon, and I can tell you that they really are soft and super absorbent, and that they can beat disposed off safe in the knowledge that they will completely biodegrade in eight to twelve weeks. Now, if you would like to use that product now, offering the listeners of the how to cut it podcast a twenty five percent off on your first order using the code health, cut it at scrums dot com. And if you're unsure of the product, you can also request a sample pack via their website. So now let's get into today's wonderful interview with the visionary. Ricky Wolters of Salam, sixty four. Welcome to how to cook through podcast, Ricky. Oh, thank you. Yeah. It was good because we took didn't we in London. The we wouldn't say the brand, but it was a professional product development afternoon and we got to walk in, and I was very wear of you Ricky, I with what you are doing. You audio of site, an amazing new destination Kusala sixty four we got talking. I said, I must bring you onto the show. And so yet brilliant of here and that's what I want to talk about today. I want our listeners to get a really good understanding of what it is that you are doing because you are really got a revolutionary concept and connoisseur on urine scam. And I love how you've got this word it, re engineered cosmetology and social hub, so come on with that. What does that mean? Yes. So basically we yeah. Up the Bennett sound six. Four from seeing a huge gap in the marketplace to be perfectly honest with you. I walk around on C has Salim's just think they all have the same big mirrors of Chas facing out, mirror, Chan miniature. Maybe casual one has a brick wall bookcase with the Vars inhale something like that. But I, I never found them to exciting and I just sold as GAC in the market hit to really look what Salom is asylum. Does I base myself before opening the sound on Iran salvo inside the five star hotel to hotel? And I bet as myself about five and a half is a Mike Hans would always asked me, the same questions. Do you have a phone charger? That is like question. Number one, client will ask you do you have a phone charger and fought saw hotel data holds the font. Yes, big place. And we didn't have a Georgia you have to unplug, your hairdryer. Source to convict compensated. Them question, number two was can I stay McClellan would wayside, can I stay off the woods and do my makeup and get myself ready? And I'm being in a fog star, it's out, of course Woodside. That's no problem at the mid post, you can stay, but deep down, you'll thinking no you can't stay like. That's my chair. Trump move somewhere else. My staff at the phone charge in there. Anyway. And then last question, notable say is being in the hundred satellite site. Can't can't bring my friends with me come company, a couple of friends with going down to Austin into your woods, Zillow cutting out offered somewhat and they'd sit around and, and I still don't believe as really a space out that which is kind of developed for that, because all the amendments which is facing outwards in this sitting on, let's start cutting Stolz that it's just not setup. So based on those three questions kind of got me looking and thinking, how do we create this, this social hub, how to create the space, where it's not just about hairdressing, and that's when we starting to create sound, sixty four. So it all kind of dot dreamt up from very my clientele. Just asking me the same questions. So, so the next stage in all this was a cable. What was the Salomon vigilant where, where did it sound comes on? Originated in sixteen sixty four in the mansion houses of Paris, and the hostess of these mansion houses will take the elite women of the time those own about the art of conversation. It was taken to the salon, which was an opulent living room somewhere in the Mansion House. And it was about getting ready or did I make up in her on the but in getting ready before dinner those no headdresses, no members? It was just really fancy living room. And I just thought, how can we bring this concept back? But we will it back with phone charges. We've mixologist with headdresses with Pero a nowhere. And that's kind of how we create its own sixty four. Mega way to get that concept because, you know, I was gonna ask you why. Silence. Sixty four my head was just thinking, probably what everybody else is your at number sixty four and, and that's it. So you have looked to the past guy really back and back to the, the Salom. What the Salom really meant because actually I had a look back on that some years ago, actually, what the Salom Menton that's where your inspirations come from. Exactly that. And now in so hope we have very confused postman who believes it could be number sixty four, but we'd have to explain how Sorenson on chill. You've explained that a few times. So I wanna get moved into someone six foot a concept client experience. I wanna learn about you'll spice and you know what it is. It's really different. But I do want our listeners, just a kind of overview, quick, sort of unearth to yourself an overview, to yourself Ricky and what you've achieved in hairdresser, and then just some of the places that you've worked up before we get to back to school. So I started as an assistant at Johns reader in my fat sweeping slows in popping up and all the rest it, and then I moved from John. Frieda to Daniel Galvan was based inside the Corinthia hotel. And then from there that was one of those twenty one years old. And then I pretty much made my clientele and kind of trade Topley on the shot floor whereas before that at Johns does only everyone insistent. Don't tell anyone but I never actually never actually qualified that I left and decided I can be the Silas, and then kind of managed to get myself job, dining Galvin that the credit and then after working at the current deal branch for for few years. I confess that I would like to have a go at managing this branch. So I wrote the business plan and puts it on the hotel manager's desk at the time and said, I can I can fix yourself for you? I think I can I can have this and response was go on then company Twenty-three-year-old. So I, I did just that I manage the branch for, for the couple of years. And then decided I'd really like to explore this gap in the market. So unlike create my own has the problem with that is I had no money in order to do that. So I needed investments, so I yes. Again. Tens of typo in votes business client has tons of myself and submitted it to my entire client base, a managed to secure to investors. And that's when are claimed that the age of twenty six silence sixty you will nail off the food guest, the discount investment, not from bankers or anybody else, but you clients the best ones, because they already believe in you as a brand they boarded seen seen you for a number of years. They really like you sudden, it is much easier than walking into a Bank where nobody's heard of you. And you don't have that track record of that emotional connection. So Lewis following all rule into Sunol sixty four. You say you've gotten investment have you got your destination already. And you've gone to your investors said will announce as some money or took us through how that worked from a business plan to where we are. So I mean, whenever I tell the story I always tell the Hollywood version, I went into the five side. I caught trying go investment. And that was it, it wasn't quite that easy. I did have a I did have a client that said shoot invested in she pulled out last minute. So that's pretty sold, destroying, do you have to pick yourself back up and do the whole thing again. And then, once you think you secured investment, you have to go out and find a property that took about a year to find an empty droplets eight because I had no track record and the twenty six year old knocking on people's doors shock. This is my story, I was working hand dresser at like I'd like to base base my project hit, but you're up against at the time the likes of like Liam. With Sabi really big, big businesses are fighting for these places in SoHo and businessmen do it's, it's granting ready tough ever just so you mean, we're not talking about going into just any old street hero. The UK Tillerson sort of areas that you were looking at for the destination for solo sixty four. Old around central London beginning, I was a, you know, is kind of winning, sixty four is in its early stages in my mind. Don't exactly how can the lookin Howard any creates it, but SoHo the people inside have over very open minded bunch. And I think it was a perfect place to launch this new concepts. It's Clinton Mendez clubs established themselves in SoHo. And so her was originally years ago, the French Coulter of London, which I'm very unbranded for. That's why mentioned houses in Paris, and everything like that. So, so did stand out as a an up and coming contender. Flu shot. I k so you've gone in there. You got in mind, the soy's of what you look in full of sharp none, again, I had the budget. I had the ambulance guy and find something, but I mean when, when you were in that situation, you kind of can't believe your luck. You know, you think you'd go investment? So there is this. Tendency to run out there. Trying find boiler will take you, however, you know, you, you kind of made recon compromise that vision halfway through looking and you'll look grounds. Shocking properties new-look brands incredible properties. Then in the kind of just you just knew this is the one. This is this is going to be sound six people. What was that one? That was the full thing biting street, where we are now grabbed you about it. It was a bit grits. It was a bit in needed polishing, and the location. If you kind of I've, I've visited a building side or shopper, NC property, I then kind of go around the area, and you got such cool places around the so has the instinct townhouse SoHo hotel. You've got like catnip hotel in these have such history as well. I just thought I want to be governed shoulders, these guys, I k so you've got this. You've got in mind, the, the ambiance of the sell them, you know, the brand is what's in your business plan, you then go and get your investors. Can only be really personally, you don't have to answer this. But as a sort of a rough idea of a spend on this. One of 'em spend was you're going to be looking at to get it to where I see today's I'm standing here. I'm looking on your Instagram page at she would asylum pitches and eat is just divine remedy. Don't look cheap. It's not a couldn't tell you an exact figure that a lot. Yeah, a lot, a lot of money and I'm guessing you'll Renton. Yes, I it's a house that as to why Renton in central London. That's quite a. That's quite a scary thing. Yeah. A it's a big overhead coming out every month. But again, you know, I think if it was easy everyone meet me doing it, but I'm definitely a visual this very much worth while doing. And that's the fun of it. You know, if, if it was, it was easy in the rent will love anyone get property, when, when have sightseeing factor about ROY, so you won't to sell them. So what you saw was this was about a year in a few months ago, K two thousand seventeen to Kaz through about the space war. It's like so I just want to now start to get a little bit of a visual to the salon, and how to look through you website as I always do lots of research, and it's just what a spy so I want to get onto the client experience. So we're going to go through a little bit on the space. And then the first thing the I just wrap me straight off. The fire pits. Yeah, what is the fire pits? So all assez where you get your head cuts happen around a fire heads off this question, a lot, and it's very, very hard to make it sound good by talking someone. It's really easy. You disown pitcher configure, well, nice meal gonna show, the pictures on the show so that. Sure that makes my life easier. Great chance facing inwards rather than facing outwards traditional Salam in a in a circle round alive fire, which, I guess it sets up more when the mirrors danso, Mary's a pair out of nowhere when members down in looks kind of a joint custody table with fire in the middle of it. Maybe like a giant boardroom table with Chazal rammed is kind of how we need to get an image in your mind. And then each section where the chairs are split open like an old fashioned school desk, and inside is your mirror fun, Georgia place to put your drinks, everything you possibly hong-koo's worc- say, this isn't just saying you go into your local wholesalers and boy, a starting unit lot this. No, we manufacturing producing design all of our own the majority of furniture by goodness. Was this a content that you had? Will we need? If we wanted to do something that nobody has ever seen before. I'm we wanted to stop the market industry. You can't just buy something off the shelves. You have to invent something, you have to create something and a veteran before that. So long looking at Salim's the audio existed, and slagging them off the I couldn't then be hypocritical and by the site Furniture's them, so we will false to create something to create something. So how'd you got this already knew more? So when we're going back to the hotel, and you're working in the your clients asking those frequent questions. This really was this, you visualize this, you know, not until we knew the. Something new to be created an new being awesome, these questions for money, clients, and that it shouldn't look like a salmon. I really enjoy hanging out in hotel, Robin. So that was a huge bit of inspiration. And it's how do you fill a need? How'd you fill that lifestyle need and uncut hair in it? And then the answer is a conflict traditional salad that has to be a multifunctional space ROY. So the ACI took so you mentioned that you won't you close a social hub, and, and I think what really Kumar tension about sun. Sixty four is that you in the evenings, people can come in and do they have a makeup. Yeah. They, they can do it into jury today where you have. It's our in seven sixty four Coffey mixed comes from Columbia, and then it's been Bristol and packaged and sent down. Nice little silences foam packaging. So you can't just focus in for someone sixty four Coffey to take away the bring in the ball itself. So you walk in and it looks just like a nice, cocktail bulb again, not Bartok, flips open, and we called it the getting ready ball. You take your favorite coffee favorite, champagne or on Friday and Saturday, teamed up with the London distillery, nice apply. Bartenders in tells for us an inside there. And instead of getting ready in the officer in a compact, mirror, or difference house, you stove. Or do you favorite drink flip flipping America? Do you make up get yourself ready? So it's like having your dressing room table in the mid lucite, we'll see the people coming in for this people want to go out and get drunk ruin publicity proved. Yes, Beijing couldn't put popular at the beginning. But we first opened the doors that, you know, one heard of us. The m people if it's drying new unit, you say, getting ready ball, that means nothing because it doesn't exist anywhere place where you can come in and do make up. So you kind of have to educate people. So it was a bit of a slow burn allows people like to label things, so they'll walk in, and you'll start explaining the story and they go, oh, it's a hassle woman noble count. All it's coffee bar that woke up. But if you say actually, no, it's, it's all these things you can use its own purposes as when it actually sought to understand. And that's when it troops, more populous tells the media hold of this, we'll say take on with this. I think. I mean you haven't had some really good articles in the Evening Standard. The two thousand. Interior design point of view awards. You know who it's definitely I think we've, we've kind of come to disrupt the marketplace. The wind paper stories, so many questions on this. He wanted you hear Ricky for so people are coming in for this service, are they getting charged for using your mirrors and just doing Mike at their how you make money on this? You straw in order a drink charge. You for the drink. You make up and you got perfect. What a great. So as you say, this is just so much more, Donna, headdresses slut, nothing. I've heard before which. Point of you asking, how do we might money from that element of it? Most Allen's have reception dusk. The long bit of your reception desk is dead. Spice Eugene earn money from that mine is a ball. So people sit in and believe it or not, ladies and men, but mainly ladies, the doing the makeup and having tree drinks spend more in the tree drinks, and they do the actual night out. Sometimes a case, we'll finally snow is listening to this. And I think this is brilliant. But they don't have a, a SoHo Sal, and they don't have the setter the beautiful equipment sell on vibe of it wall. So how can I have could they do this in a regular Ceylon, but create a bar. I mean, how would you do that? If you're in a small space salon, and you say steps Beijing, yeah, I could do think here. Well, it will come from not being satisfied with how irregular Salam looks. So the first thing you'd have to think is do you like salmon looks again? I always believed that something can be improved is always room to innovate a make something better. So it was kind of born from that. How do we solve this problem? The phone charger makeup, whatever it is problem, and it stemmed from that. So I would probably look at your saddle inside. What is what can you do better? What's the issues hit like why Nimbus stop? Good. I hate the word good fine fifty cent vanilla Hiwa. So you know it's how how to how to get something should be sensational. And that's about how I would go about it doesn't necessarily need to go exception desk. Let's, let's turn into something with a bit more bang bit more than something breaking might money from it. It should be Howard. Can we make this better? So you looking at it a different tight don't just follow the norm. No, exactly. I think I always tell my team do not look at other Salim's look at another industry in take, you know, drops, it was hotels hotel, lobbies, less than a lot of time in them, especially hotel, lobbies the ultimate third sites. So Starbucks created the stud stays coffee. Shop concept that you can sit there for hours wondering until your work, you can run in run out. You can meet friends at it became like a living room. I believe that old eventually stemming from hotel mogul. If you walk through a five star hotel lobby, you've got people doing big business meeting just go hand off. Did you go someone to studying work as if it's an office, you've got all these different activities? Coming on. But that was pretty untouched in the saddle Salimo is just the place to go and get the heck out of you that look that you wanted. Yes, I it would be things that now that you've got you look up, maybe would have done different one hundred percent one hundred exactly what it is going never, ever ever in your mind, creates a solid room, which is you'll backwash room in just white because color is really messy, right? And that's funny. You said that. So come on, let's get into the wash area then so you, you kinda describe this as a secret closed off white bra space that you would change. I mean if I was to do a lot, I love everything. But it sounds. But if I was to do it again, from the cleaning points of view with squaring, Thomas and head is. I, I mean, everything when you will cannot rubes what's, what used to. So I would probably threes think that wasn't relaxing experience like in there. So we can control the lighting in there. We can did the lights down just have a very faint, white light, which would replicate more street lights, Oregon Bryant and up the yellow and kill the white, which replicate sunlight. It sounds over the top of the reason for that is, then you can see your tone is developing under different lighting conditions, which is which is always useful. It's shut off from the rest of the Salom. It will happen behind closed doors. Because if you Jim have a group of laid is just coming into Hudson cocktails, or coffee or whatever they don't wanna feel they've been that sat on, you know, the stereotypical back while she sat on they wanna fill out article and vice versa. You don't have your hand washed in a cocktail bar. So it's kind of finding that balance. Between the two. Okay. So you say about the Bob with mentioned about it already. But how is that run is that who runs up our? One by ourselves. Some sounds go front of house so difficult at team hit. We also have partnered with the London steady who consultants to us end, supply mixologist and, and different guises. Well, so it's kind of a big mix roof of all of us, but the whole brand of it is on sixty four it's, you know, it's all it's a one. It's a one stop. Shop is just open win the sun, Epinal disease, Khanna, just turn into an evening place for people to just come in hang out, if they won't after work at the moment, it's the opening hours of the Salom. However, we are looking to extend our bar license to go on much later in love with the licensing laws restrict, so I, you have to get your personal license. So I have to become a license holder. Take an examine going some courses. And then you allowed once you go to apply for your kindnesses license. Brilliant. Yes or no? Full mcevers. Can't remember who was now but that they've served alcohol, and I just gave as way free, but I still needed and alcohol alcoholic license. Yeah. There's a there's a whole remove Aaron distri that you'll get away free. It's fun from what I understand. I don't you know, free oil change in food to sell them. And we got the style. Again, this is Khana just as what we said, this is what we just sit down and do the head makeup. Okay. Perfect so moving on into this, and this is one that I was really interested the private volt. That's why I'm fat right now. Looks bright. I wish always is probably a lot more glamorous in my studio. I can assure you if that. So what is the private volt? Talk about is, again very multi-functional. It's an area away from the rest of the Salom behind a closed door almost dynasty crew corridor and everything in the corridors black, the floor, the walls, everything. So it kind of dissipates almost about west behind the scenes of the main kind of big five downstairs. And it's a place where you can get your hair done out of the public on which was perfect four maybe more high profile clients, or the Middle Eastern inclines, contrary their heads men. It's used we use it a lot as nice white back Instagram posts if no one's in hit. And it's also place that you can just with friends hang out on the loft Libby. Probably use it for as settings and talks, and feathers in that kind of thing as well. So you say Boateng's fillers. So this is you do the whole kind of lifestyle, beauty. Yes on sixty four. Yeah. So if you wanted to spend tonight ahead, you probably could you get your talks in your Phillies collar Indika, call tiles than studied it off to make friends. Yeah. You, you can spend a long time. So you mentioned your clients on. I know you've worked with many high-profile plans, you work on many events is pulling in do pull in a lot of celebrities certainly been in the SoHo area. Yeah. Some of them would have been Macon's before, like I even. Yeah. Even thought I've been in this, that just be my up in cut in there for a while. Some have been attracted to us from being based in SoHo agents basi- outside. Now officers in the area anyway. Some kind of catching fire on, and catching the idea of what we're doing here and they want to be part of that. And they wanna come and get the head on here. So it's, it's kind of a real bench, and we'll is the brand style of sun. Sixty four was the head. What, what's your signature look? We can't go with public demand at the moment, which is way, saying, a lot of body Arjun beach waves because, you know dies. Well, that's what people want we could start shaving one side and dying pink fringes and all the rest of it. But I don't think ultimately sell very many of those so you have to think, but from a business perspective from a creative point of view as well. However, I do think that we will be doing some things to turn the handwriting side of things on its head a little bit as we have done with Salomon's and my big thing here is when you want to be the trend sets trendsetters. We want to be at the top of innovation. We've done it. With has owns now started. Look look at the word for happening within those islands. So we all playing around with a few different things, but I couldn't give you. Could you feel about your mind to of the breathing always going to? Okay. So that's really interesting. So you what you get from you, Ricky. And it's only when we met the event, which we talked about the start that you are visionary. And you are somebody that gets excited by doing things completely different. And that is what you, I guess. What you when you say about hair this is sink. Do you want to be the people that are starting saying, starting a movement in, in hair trends? The spread globally. Definitely in anything within the you know. We, we look at like I look at apple for inspiration. You know what they've done what they've created? All been incredible hotels and things that are just questioned. The norm. Why why are we doing that if it's not even working? Why are we doing it like that instead of flow Fogelman in that how can we solve that? And that could be hairdressing related. It could be technique. It could be a way of coming ever would look something. You know, is that a cold look is why should we do it that way or it could be something else? Okay. So you say we done just accept north because most people would say and I can imagine you toes curl with angry. He said to you, but we can't do anything different now with, hey, everything's done every angles done every techniques done, what would be your answer to that? People probably been saying throughout the ages. Yeah. Out pops in other technical another trawler to another salary or something like that. So I would say stoppings I make is. But you don't have to say what have you went? She found sink that could be exciting that you might be sharing with the industry and the consumers in the near future potential. Politics is your next thing. So when we, we might be potentially hear about this, a maybe potentially. Learn more of what's next for you. More to do here. I feel like we just scratched the surface in tons of what we're doing maintenance, especially my, my next thing, I'm telling my attention to is this later license of, what does that look like you know, let's say Westminster say, no problem you go. You guys now licensed till midnight. I know you know, my team not going to be wanting to do have until midnight. So we'll happens will is the space and I think that's the next huge. You'll see come out Celtics. We'll see the biggest challenges for you. Originally getting vestment, and then getting focus it. I would say. I would say off to that came up people understanding the concept of mobile about. And now I think the new challenges will properly read ahead soon, where we tried to. Whenever you try to do something new created by feel of that's when the challenges some of the ugly head. So I feel like wearing good place that might've been. However, you know, I don't know how things are going to look, you know, from APM on woods with this new license in things. So, I think in challenge all the same presented itself. And. In terms of the long term future. It's exciting in terms of where you are now has the business matched what you felt it could be has it gone better. Or is it the took is from that? And some of the live it mental into my expectations one. It has it has done all those things I suppose because it has met it has been my expectations yet, I'm still not satisfied. So is a bit of a difficult one to answer. Because if I was satisfied, then there'd be no room to grow and do things differently. I would send ways chasing something on probably never one hundred percent sacrified. Just gonna ask you that question. However, I vote for kind of, you know, I think we've covered a lot of ground in just over a year of running an opening yoursel. Okay. So how does it work for you? Are you very much? Are you fifty percent of the time I head dresser fifty percent of time businessman? On hit all the time. Some of them consonant head outside a bit more than fifty percent. And in those gaps Yukon of doing all the other things, you know, looking at the brand looking at trends to looking at the operational customer journey or something on huge. So it's, it's a real mixed. I, I think it's hard to say I do fifty centers fifty percent is more sporadic in Vandam than that light, you pick up as you do client. And then you go to this massive meeting somewhere else in the new back to doing the client. So yet you come nonstop to everything all the times, and what about the team that you've got? Their Ricky is that saying you got a big team yet is probably like for in about fifteen to eighteen of us now and having opened here we go in early being three or four of us. We've obviously grown tremendously virtual amount of time. In terms of the numbers of people, we've got working at I have without doubt an incredible the best thing because I've no Lord of them all of them before walking hit. I knew all of them and an never really appetite. And so all hired anyone in terms of appetizer position. It's always been through our own little network. So that's been people that have joined Twitter kind of felt like you know, hit. Fill slots it in Ovid word they will ready because he was hanging out with his night. That's colorist hair. Anyway at the ball. So, yeah, we've, we've always kind of gum kept it in the family and going with people that we know in the trust an extended that way rather than opening out to the whole world is industry, recognition important. Industry recognition is important other the bail and end. I think it's it, you know, if you've got a vision you wanna stick to that. And even pick mission is important. Okay. Not some, I guess helps in growing profiles. So I am going to Ross. I of that question I wanted because you're revision Ray, you're a futuristic person will I see your somebody who's always looking future ideas. I know it's hard to say you know, where you're going to be five years because none of us know, but where do you want, what would you like the future to look like? Not the drunk of Salam, sixty four and a product range. And the second launch of sound sixty four to be better than the first completely different than the first and something yet again never before seen. So I don't believe if you open a, Sal on his success to use that as a blueprint and go around rolling out everywhere. Interested someone else will just do what I've done instead, Madonna like that. Let's do things better. But if you're always trying to better yourself. You've kind of your own home petition. So I think the next branch will be bigger more. More of whatever it is. We're gonna do in there and each one should be different. And from a consumer point of view, it will be much more inviting because, you know, beg the question already been to the site high one. Yeah, it's really cold. But I haven't tried the shortage one, you know, in it's exciting for the consumer as well. So I definitely think a second Salman, second sites of some soul would be on the cards, better than this one, almost using this woman's attest that of what works, what doesn't look and to disrupt the trout markets would be a huge woma my list, this'll started because, you know, you walk around past albums, and your high straight day in and day out. And just think don't they owner that exact same some have a break wall. Some have, you know, a bookcase vase but really fundamentally oversight and serve in the said and it's the same. When I walked down the product roots, and I see different sprays and different things going on. I just think God, they're all the exact same sense to create something doesn't exist. So I suppose so. Rickie unknown asking you to share it because you will want anybody else to get on it, and I'll get that a you'll ready starting to create that in your mind, what this could be. Oh, I've proper excited by I k so how long realistically could that bay before we see? And I wouldn't imagine this other solid, sixty four products are probably gonna completely flip it all on its head again. But when could that happen? Can happen pretty soon. I don't think you can get a put up job, but night, but I think it could happen in a couple of years and would be a product range, that would be just to you'll settles itself. Will would you like this to be a consumer product that may be batiks set something that we'd like to go out to retail put up for clients to enjoy play you? You very good, Ricky, I tell you. You, you, you could you really are good. I it brilliant stuff this. I just knew I was going to get Dedic site by every day because this is what draws me into these podcasts. If you NBA said to me, what is it? I love most about doing the how to cut it puckers it's actually interviewing people, the art doing stuff different our love people of doing what you are doing. You are exactly what I love in somebody business wise because I guess I do in a different way. But do think different look outside the industry. Don't follow following boring. Exactly. And how would you feel then when somebody starts to somebody listens to this today, an think in rural, I'm going to do what Ricky's the emphasis for? What would you around? So be to that do better than I've done. Do do the next step. Is that pushes the industry further forward, which is wanted to tell my guys don't look others islands because Joel busy? Everyone's busy looking at each other and becomes the knows stagnant and had ruins just rebranding potentially designed for that. You know, look at something like serums ceremony on the market is, is a serum just a ceremony. I can't believe this. But, you know, look at look at something else in sight, how much better have lunch at Bethune sound successful, but don't better than sound sixty four. Of going to have to go to do. So whilst you this question, because you are revision really does, there's no doubt about it. What's vision of the industry for you, in terms of how do I think the excellent shoe about the industry? How can we make it better? I think maybe with education of four. For the kind of apprentices coming up through the ranks on. It is a big problem that people find it hard to find pences sometimes. And again, I don't think the education side of things as massively changed. I like seeing cool immersive brands coming out, let these let Lytton, not necessarily big loyal Wella owned brands that like the smaller very what you can only phone up on speak to the owner eco-friendly light as the towel company will you take from scrummaging big fans days? So it's nice to kind of almost sit down denim and get to know the these, these companies, and I, I like seeing that side of the industry giving the giants a bit of a run for the money. So it Yang agree. If he really seen the Roy's at the mall. We took about India headdresses, but it's the indie brands isn't it? Who have got different ideas and big shout out to scrimmage sponsors of we, we love scrubbing, I use creamy myself, so that, that brilliant yet. Fantastic, so the one of ice and to, to sort of finish off, before we just find out a little bit wet fondue online is if somebody's sitting here, and if he can, they want to create a revolutionary concept in hair. What's at one big tit that you'd get to them? If someone's looking to find out revolutionary concepts inherited you side. Yeah. To innovate and solve a problem. I don't take good old final don't take don't take anything for granted. Perfect. I k- Ricky OSA, we didn't mention, but you can't hire the spice of your son. Yes, we did quite lower than we did one last week for a was on. I think it was International Women's Day or something like that. We have twenty ladies in, we had a great relationship with a lot of like, really nice pastry shops in SoHo and things like that they will supplied pastries weeping opposed. Also sweep done. Gin gin and wish the tights thing that was quite cool. One to just hang out at these events by the way, I've been to -tarian. So I didn't touch base Dr. And I don't drink much, though, the most boring part. You guys. But, but yeah, I was talking about, but yeah, you know, we do events. Also, it's not something I'd like to expand on the series. Well, just on the industry is just we are good. Some of their some visionaries of us out there at the moment. And that's why I'm just getting pumped up by people. We don't just look at this hairdressing as just a head dressing space. We are. We are really involving into Siamese more in this basin. Oh, cost is good. Because you can actually hear about what's going on people's minds waivers. I think the massive amount of Clapham, the up before a swan again. Why we live, is what I love is what I want to share. I want to share this people to know we took about the industry, and we gotta get people excited. Well, this is what we do in this is how you accelerate. He's having visionaries people that are, that are taking it and taking it to a new level. We really is brilliant, you up brilliant, by the way. And you know, you're, you're a very modest guy. So. Just take such cheese. So in terms on funding that more about you, Ricky. You obviously all online just share your links with us just our listeners, and I'll pull them all in the show notes to co sound, sixty four London is to grab founds. Cradle, Yucai is our size dry. And if people would just want to reach out, get in touch with you here in this podcast of say, Hello, jed that you can probably Instagram sound, sixty four London or my personal. Graham Ricky under sixty four when he would always Baker want will give us an Email at the front desk, but kings sound sixty wicked I'm coming by you apply. Spot away. He's, I'm gonna come in and come and see the despite. You bet. I would enjoy that very much. So, and what will do with this show knows where key is. We'll share some images of your spice. If that's okay. Just so the listeners go look at the, the visuals to what being talking about today in be really good for them. So I so we're just now going to finish on, I'll ask questions bit of fun storms last five quick questions that has nothing to do with headdress in what so ever and the world title. So question one, a wife work. How do you best like to spend your time? Relaxing doing nothing sleeping, and walking look people are exposed to bounces. Are they really? Come on. No. I come up with some really crazy, citing onces to this strange. They're going to be very boring. Go. Don't you worry Bourne? That's no pro I k-, what's a one song that makes you jump up and hit the dancefloor don't jumped up and hit the dancefloor. Oh, say the table, we've you miserable. What would you do? In last Saturday night. Home of the French bulldog on my lap watching something on Netflix. What was the last big treat you gave to yourself photo Blay? The go-to spas, waiting in luxury of five-star spas, because I think there is a kind of a good point of inspiration for the head of industry, 'cause detached from us to detached. So I probably hung out at the occasional spa at cafe royale, which was not since for every noise I lost to this woman thing that we really need to know about you. I have question. I'm not as much of a psychopath is I found on this podcast. Rickie you up. Really? Thank you so much. I love your little humorous while know it was great to connect with you as a way back here in that event. And we sat down we were going to bring you on, and I'm really pleased to put you on. Thank you for joining us today on how to cut it. Thank you so much for having any, thank you was more than two Ricky waters of Selo, sixty four for coming onto today's how to cook podcast and share in the vision behind the on sixty four concept really impressed by what he's doing. Now, if you would like to check any of the points that we discussed in today's show as well as some images of Ceylon, sixty four and any links have been discussed throughout this podcast. Then we prepared the show knows for you online at WW dot how to cut dot it slash EP one zero full. Now, if you're listening on arches are love, if you could leave us a writing and the review they really do. Help us grow. The show and it's great for people who are searching out podcasts and leaving a review, we'll give them an exact idea of what you like about the show. Or maybe what you would like to hear more of. So please do. Leave a sir a write in a review there. 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EP100: Meet Hairdressings Everyday Foot Soldiers (and our Listeners!) Celebrating 100 Episodes

How To Cut It in the Hairdressing Industry

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EP100: Meet Hairdressings Everyday Foot Soldiers (and our Listeners!) Celebrating 100 Episodes

"This is how could sit in address an industry polka show, we've dome lane episode number get ready for this one hundred. To how to cut it in the hedging industry broadcast this show, you that gives you that incites rations and information to take your handwriting and offering to the next level. Here's your host Dom Levay. Thank you for joining us full episode one hundred of the how to cut it podcast, and you are listening to the UK's number one rated and original podcast show for the hair industry. And this is a show that gives you the insides inspirations and information to your head dress in I'm Barbara in careers to the next level Nazar said one hundred episodes, I just cannot believe that we have. Now brought you one hundred shows and this is going to be a special podcast for you today. And I cannot wait to share it with you. Because it saying that means a lot to me now before we head into today's very special episode. I just want to give a shoutout to our friends and sponsors of the house cuts podcast scrummage towns. Nascar towns, they are the thickest a most absorbable borrowed degradable silence out on the market today. And I used by some of the biggest names and silence. Fraut UK, including previous guests such as Wilson and the future guests of the show, Ricky Watters, and of course, myself I used product, and I really really recommend them. Now listeners of the show you can still get a twenty five percent discount off on your first order by using the discount code how to cut it at scrum-half dot com. And if you're unsure of the product, you can also request a sample pack of via their website. So here we are. I cannot believe it episode one hundred of the how to a podcast back a March two thousand seventeen I brought you my first episode of this podcast, and we've just myself the microphone, and you. I fish Lee announced the launch of the show. And boy was I Princip when we done this. But equally I was excited to this new journey and older weekly guys are always going to be able to interview and bring to you that incredible insights, inspirations and infamy. Action. And after my very first interview with the brilliant mega talented, Tom Connell in episode two. I could have never imagined. The response episode would get the positive feedback. I got from you was some more than I ever imagined an anew. From that moment that this was saying that you want it all was it. Well, that was a question. I asked myself because there was a time when I did think whether podcasting was full Matt that the hair industry was really ready for because still it was quite relatively unknown inhere industry back in two thousand seventeen and I found myself regularly explaining to many what a podcast was and how it works. And it just felt was doing the right thing and Juno. What putting these together tastes, endless hours? I cannot tell you the time. It takes drew my weight to bring these shows, and I just cannot really commit to this every week. Well, one hundred episodes in. I did. And I'm so glad because it has made one of the best decisions I've ever made. Now, we've over ten thousand downloads Puma, and with many of the biggest names in the industry being interviewed by myself. I'm delighted as now become the UK's number one podcast for the hat and Barbara industry. But today is an interview with a big knife and a hair industry or about just this podcast in well because I wanted to bring you saying very special for one hundred episodes, and so it's really special to me is the everyday footsoldiers of the hair industry, they had heroes. And this is exactly what we're going to be doing because I'm going to be joined by five listeners of the show and hairdressers and now I up Daniel. Kennedy of Lloyd's has alum followed by Emma off Hugh Campbell had group, then we have Kim Guja of rule hair followed by Amanda liner at hot. Ceylon and finishing with Stacy RO at the color room. And these goals are going to talk to us a little bit about who they are. But the rules are going to share their experiences of being inherent. She what it means to them to be distri. It's a really good listen. I don't know it seems that you guys have wanted me to bring you. So I'm gonna say, no more. I'm gonna just go straight into this. With our very first guest. Danielle Kennedy of Lloyd's has alum here, we are one hundred episode, and as I've mentioned in the introduction building into this whole thing, this is I wanted to put the spotlight on some my incredible listeners who a successful in narrowing. Right. But also, they are the ones who are out that are happy of the Herr industry. So kicking us off is somebody who came to my attention through actually supporting the show shares and great post blue says she's an incredible sullen owner and her name is Danielle. Kennedy. So welcome to the show. Danielle. I Don I have me. He's a delight to have you and say, this is a really special to me because it is you guys that have made the success of the show, but let's get straight to this. Right. I want our listeners to just get a quick heads up on who you are. And what it is that you have as a business. My name is John yet. I am by with interesting thing about me is I'm not actually a hairdresser. And I'm only in the industry since two housing and twelve so I'm I'm in a relatively short time. We Bush one smaller Ceylon a into hesitant twelve. And now we have tree found on swith as he moves almost sixty people is to bunkers view done that been successfully in shoot Spicer time. And while not not the hard work on EBay, and like, I I never had hairdryer on by razor. I was in retail management recession his quote and get a job. I was actually at work for a month. I fill job for advertised for Sodom manager on like, I think I could do that yet. I'm I went I and within six months, we ended up in the business and the rest is they say history. Way. So there's somebody else in the business with you. Yeah. So my my husband. So my husband say charged decanted. He's got his own practice. Both. He would be very involved in business Whitney we want it much as a team. So I'm looking I have him to watch all the financial cited. Hanging Sunday night can try and be is Krisha. This light can be UC. You've got free someone's. That's how many did you say. You've got just under state. So many people will cite why headdress, and you know, you would tennis as a solemn manager. What was it? The drew you to a Nashville I wanna business now in this industry. And so funny because Nathan said the podcast every week. And I always hear everyone seems to say, oh, I just saw fans the industry, but I really feathers the industry. It wasn't on my radar at all. I was in school was on like college you're in school for what like AC nearest by the time, we finish college. And it was never something. I can say there's and then the second I came into us as a manager. I just absolutely office accidentally just sending over the industry everything about what was it that you loved about it. Both the excitement the people like I think one of the most exciting things about his everything is new on everything is instant gratification like Mary few industries that you get. So true. I get that completely. So a question I really need to ask you guys listeners, the everyday footsoldiers, salon owners, what kind of life is hairdressing giving you. Can meet the most amazing life is giving me whole career satisfaction, which I think is something that can be very rare. A it just it just brings me happiness. It makes me happy. I'm happy everything goes eight when I go into work like this very rarely today that I don't enjoy on into my work, regardless of how stress jam or have the eye or him watch still I have gone on in my life. Like, my work is if you're you're one happiness, that's always there free. You're totally in control of us as well. Because like when you were the owner you set the tone for your business. So you can impact everyone as is career on everyone else's happiness in work. Whether it's day or lifelong career. Am suffering special on. It's it's not something that everyone get. So you don't do say. No, I afraid they'd be visually point lightning there. So how does your work in week? Look. Oh, and so like, my favorites weeks are the weeks where just in this island. I don't really have anything to do on just on the floor. I'm based primarily in our biggest sat on. So it's a five thousand square foot Percy station almost hearty staff, a walking only savan-, so we don't take any appointments on its food service. Walk in only found on. On. You're just in there. The BOS you're running the floor. You're organizing everything you're working with the team you're Tolkien to the team and having fun with the team as well. There might deal talk weeks is mentioned just briefly go on so was benched about your input values. That is the team use it not just as a job and you'll training stretcher. Just give us a quick suit of Brown pool that into sort of what you mean by all this and what I feel the team not just a job. I was go together. Three we go together like way, we we that your team are everything we always have they say in this. The level of hair your produce. Isn't your product is only party our products, the people you have our as much as your product ads that? And. It's all about like engagements on engage in the team. A megan. Sure, they're happy their jobs and making sure they're continually progressed posted posts not showing through for lead done because one of the things I certainly know certainly from social media is wanting I've absolutely loved what you've done, and I've actually use images, and you probably know where I'm going here. You have shed some stories of actually you'll team sat down with their buds in listening to the podcast every show every choosy which things I've actually shed that. Now with quite a few people with the streets in colleges as well. Because I think is such a great way to get your younger staff. Members chewed his how do you use? So how does that work? When you got the move tuned into the podcast of the how to cut it show. And what basically we just kick off every training day would have podcast. And luckily, we only today. And in January this year. I'll even listen to the show since early last year. I'm then it just kind of we have we have competition in Orland colored star team. Hey HFS star team. It's like a junior competition on when they're applying for that. They have to host in. You know, who they admire the industry on everyone last year. I think we are seeing people enter the open the same company people like four names the newer mobile with wedding knows obviously fear. We had like the Kardashians hairdresser. I'm so they were all other celebrity hairdressers or hairdressers who are celebrities. Am I really despaired? And I was like come on. Like, if all you knew all these other people like you have to know them. So I think you know, as you spent about three months given out values you're like God like washes wrong. What they I of. I realized what actually the falls on me because I'm trained in this team. So it's up to me to make sure that they know who will these people are like he spent a few months in. You're going come on we found with this personal instrument need to follow this price point when I need to make sure they actually know who these people are what they do on what importance. They have. Absolutely love it. Honestly, when you said that because it is my podcast, it could be any cuss. But I think it's such a great way to get young people actually engaged in what's going on in the industry. And it's so exciting to see you know, how to put counts can be used an SE them ROY t. No. So it's pulling thank you so much for doing that. And certainly Sherry knows nothing and three D interaction because the ones that I at the start the ones that like presumed they would love like sometimes, they don't love them. Obviously are not going to name me. They really. On some into some the ones that they really love. You know, maybe some of them are more busy with other knock on it. You know, that's not going to flow. There is much as am, you know, just the Stalinist wounds or maybe a session story? This is something that unlike that'd be really really into some of the things the more business focused podcast, which is really tries which actually Jim about Congo's ensue entry with the download the business was hugely popular. And it's great to his people really engaged in that sort of the industry as well as the creative. Now, this is a city probably before when a just gave you a heads up about what we're gonna talk about ten minutes. And I wish I could have an hour actually because I'm not I'm not good at this short time when you get into story really doing this. But we have a limited amount on because we have some of our listeners coming onto the show. So just two quick questions really to sort of finish on. We've done. Liz, if you could change one thing about the industry right now, what would not be I would have to be just the credit at the industry. Get gets the credits. It deserves the recognition. It deserves. I just take it so underestimates if Schalken off is absolutely brilliant are really agree with that completely. And then my question really is I want to know why is a future for yourself going forward in the business. And we've lot of exciting stuff in the pipeline. But I can't really go into much detained because the show comes in unaccompanied weeks, and it will be announced while we've got like a rebrand calm enough. And a very big change in direction. I think like, you know, when everyone's fact that you think only one time out on going to have face in that. And then the kind of future actually doesn't fit in with our company values because we value a team, and you know, stuff like that so much that spreading Melissa Brockton. Sounds would never work. So we've client come up with a new way that we can expand the business will still stay troops were value. So that's going to be really exciting. So we're would have that event the Midland summer. It's been literally commit in with you've done something to hear a voice of Sunday. The star of our keeping together in a industry why? And hopefully, we're gonna tool so just want to say, thank you so much. I see. For your tuning into the podcast. It's really valued and appreciated and the big channel that will your team as well who listen in. I'm looking forward today. Matchy listening to you there. They're fought before listens renowned a few weeks. So where can we find out more on you on lines of people want to go and research little bit more on yourselves on Facebook where Lloyd's hair on on Instagram where Lloyd's dot hair on then? I'm john. Yeah. Though, I pair on Instagram you'll proper love. Thank you Donyo. Grace them watch for having me. The next guest. Delighted to bring onto our one hundred episode of the how to podcast listener. And a hairdresser who's doing some great things out. There woke into the show Emma mercy. I highly you there is another Irish accent going on here. I know I'm great. Thank you very much. Thanks for having me on the show too. I that's not winter you based. Abso I based in the Yukon prepare group in Limerick city in Arden's must second listener today who's from England so going through. See doing of see big fans of ours in oil in which. Marus Renault into as well with the name. The Han has to be. Eight does. So give us a sigh of just given. A the listen a bit of a heads up. But just give us a bit more background to you, Emma. So I am a technician firstly, and I went back training to become a Steiner's in new comprehensive group therapy vision caution groups, so when in Rome, I took advantage of Shanna went back training how you found being a new mum and this kind of building your career to. Yeah. To be honest with the pod at I it would be more difficult than what it is an, but if anything having regarded highly has actually pushed me to work that little bit more harder and to really utilize your time because I think I was wondering a little bit before I had her. Whereas now realized how important the minutes are in the day. And I just really go for it. Now since she was born she will take on your career in hairdressing. I suppose I am developing. I'm developing hairdresser. I think you always be developing here adjusted, but I suppose I am looking to find might true Nisha my through authentic set in the industry. I don't know. Yes. I think I think I'm I think I'm just more folks nonsense development now and networking and being affiliated with like with brands that I actually associated my own em. Spos- my own thoughts and values with. Yes. I don't really know. Right now. I think I'm just going with the flow and kind of just get setting up goals for myself and just going with it and see where it takes me linked to some brands and of suddenly go where on you'll Instagram account. So just to this a bit what you're doing with some of those brands. So all ideologies. I'm referring to as the squad. Yeah. So I am affiliated with Lori L. I am very fortunate to be a lawyer idea artist m on the first year. So, and I am also a pack of the G hasty styles squad has an eighteen nineteen and that's actually Pence you're podcastone sous Lee. Yeah, he did. And you did a fabulous interview. You'll Robinson back about a year and a half ago, maybe and I was actually on maternity leave. And I was like I was catching up on all the podcasts came across your your podcasts. Probably a fifty fifty note, maybe before episodes in. So I was binging on them. And I came across the one Joe Robinson. She was on a bit these dates for auditions first, so actually flew over to Manchester. Auditions a goddess, and because we don't get a lot of that information about the stuff going on the UK over here. So through your podcasts is actually really fortunate to be shown that these opportunities arrived there, even if it meant to travel soa worth this, really. When you hear that people suicide that food podcast through here in our guess, the inspired you to go on and do that. And why it's important for you to be part of these initiatives. We brands. I think especially for me someone who's not located in like the major haircut of the world. And you'd find it difficult to surround yourself in in that kind of environment because we don't have a lot of that over here. So it's really important for me to get involved with these brands particular who I believe are like the premium brands, I third all the best of the best worked them on. I think start to me to go on. If you don't mind me sign, you twenty-seven, look beautiful, Ron you look youthful, and you, but you think so many of today's modern young hairdressers who industry, and you know, you showed am Basha. Bam bishen. But we all know that hairdressing times is hard work, isn't it is not always the glamorous. And now eight and I long hours to into people. How do the challenges the hairdressing Campbell on us? I suppose we all we'll have urged days where it's like gosh. Have I have bitten off more than I can chew. Am I going to exhaust myself and all that? But the reality is you need to just to step back. Ask yourself the question. Why did you get in this first base wins? You know, you're y that's going to be your answer to every question. You'll always persevere and push on. My why is I want to be an exception role model for my daughter, and I believe that she came into our world. So that we could improve those much more. We no matter how many hours of the week we work you can do like the basic amount of work in those hours. You can do you can give your Fullon and Absolut absolutely everything. So I'm not gonna waste all those hours away. And just come at like in be away every week. I think it's important for me to really push myself and really utilize those hours in order for her to have an incredible role model, and to be able to see you can't do anything, even if you have GERD, or if you have a baby or you know, you can take on those things just don't to you to suppose discipline yourself to do with that way. Just patron nail one of our young sixteen seventeen year olds who got rid, but in getting engage listening to your podcast, and I think into their sales on just getting bored of address in. What would you say to them to help keep them excited and engaged? To on their forms of inspiration. Don't just look at the hair words because I think if you're looking at everybody else's work. It's beautiful and don't get me wrong. I love it. I I I just spend hours on Instagram looking at what people are doing here. But recently, I started to look at look at different forms of inspiration. And wanted to do is expand your mind in a different kind of way, you perceive things differently and say, wow, like translate that into here in some way. So it makes you look inside yourself a little bit more rather than looking into the industry. I think it's really important to property trust your own inspirations more than what the industry is doing interest new again. Sixteen seventeen year old listening to ban you token away here. And then now thinking we'll get fed up of shampoo in. I get fed up of sweeping the floor. A moment. Did I need to look to the future bigger picture of what can be achieved in addressing? I'm barbara. I look everybody's gonna have like those few years at the time thread, like make another cooperative those few years. Yeah. But you know, they're extremely extremely important because they teach you things like that later on if you didn't have the work ethic for because it gets harder. If you wanted to be successful it gets harder. You have to put in a lot more than you ever did for sweeping floors and things like that. So it's it's almost like you have to go through those things in order to get to where you need to be an all I can say as this was when you're going through that stage is be the best of be the best shampoo. And be the best blow drying be the best that all things on the way. Eventually, it will be the best you'd be brilliant. New Sean is just fly. Boy, I'm for striking. 'cause I could just go for an hour talking. He's we can't wait. Can we find you online? You can find me on Instagram. My Instagram handle is at Emma mercy. And I do have a person face, but but I don't put much on their immigrants to hers. So I don't think he'd be interested in. Mostly dots. I e to blame A M a. E Y, right? You you're gonna make you have not disappoint me of really enjoy briefly turn with Hatton who flee. Relation to. I think too many young goes on later. So looking in a year Clinton person that I've looked at it and think, yeah, I get when she's going so goes if you just enjoyed listening to American check our work and often you'll get really excited. I'm sure you'd love to hear from them crate, I would I'd love to hear themselves. Anybody needs to ask the questions in regards to these development programs is that I'm all areas all the time. I think everyone should thank you. Thanks so much have man's trip down. So here we are joined by somebody who was just so easy for me to select as one of my listeners to come onto this one hundred episode, and I'm delighted to welcome to the show. Kim Guja Kim. Welcome. Really really lovely to finally towed and to bring you onto the puck. Before saying anymore and get to know you just very quickly only received an Email from you gosh shot to know about three months ago. And it really touched. It was one of the most it really brought home while I'm doing these podcasts that Email that you sent. And it was it was Clinton moving Email as well. But we might just touch upon that a little bit as we go into this. But just give everybody a quick sort of heads upon you came as a hairdresser way, you're based and what businesses. Okay. So I've been hairdressing. So almost seventeen years worked in a salon for longtime. And then my husband now, he earned that sun on way, he sewed, and we I'm descend on together. And that was ten years ago. This week is celebrating at ten anniversary on Saturday. And yes, we've been there. Ten years we go on I've got another sat on the two cone last year. And and so two to settlers twenty-seven Stoff. And you re based in Kent vice wouldn't be it would be fair to say Kim. And again, if you could talk about as much as soon as little as you want, but it hasn't been smooth running old way has it far from it you want to maybe share any of that with the listeners. Okay. So about two years into the salon and the one that we make more has been and became unwell. He was suffering from depression, and he is an addiction issues, and he became very weak drawn wasn't involved in the business, and he stopped cutting hair. And he wasn't amazing headdress. I told me everything I and. Yeah. And he just became very uninvolved. And I was calling left to just get on with it by and get on with it. When you've got you do to you. You know, your husband who's so sadly, well, which is so difficult. I mean, I can't even imagine. But how did you do this prior to have in modulator, and it was more of a case if just going in and having to just survive, so, you know, not necessarily running the business, but just you know? Sites that guys, you know, we just bombed in along with just doing their thing was doing nothing unjust that need to keep it to keep it going and for my family and more Cy and. And it's nuts. That's what it is. Really just. Just to yourself. You know, what just jumped in? What can I I'm sure if HUD is moments? I'm sure but McLaughlin society precious today for out the whole time with a week's going on. I've ever wants to that down. And just have that need to not let people down Akon of always wanted to provide for my family, and you know, since I was really really young, and my parents were really hard my whole life, and my mom still works now, my dad's retired and an of gotten older sister on just one it's aways dwell sedan and be able to provide for them. And then since having my door that you just have the undeniable desire to succeed because you have to you can't no did you do it. She's seventeen months, so she's a young. So you really wouldn't you going through these the inaugural? I'm ahead. Yes, I work on clients. And I know who when as a tough, you know, we we'll have as all of us probably listening. We will know we step onto a stage. And it's it's really hard. It's hard to be dealing with clients. Have you been able to pull on that small declines to your team going through such difficult period in your life? I've always been really good at that have to side just fan. I to switch off and just get with it. Because having such a big team. They rely on you sign him out. And everyone's got their own problems of Beslan all relevant to them in their life. Not my problem isn't worse than is is just everything is relevant. So you just feel as later that you have to put that front own and you have to lead them. And you know, they had been so supportive to me it it was my duty. I think to just go in and and do what I need to do for them a McLaughlin says, well, they more like family the only been in them a long time. And they know the situation by him or husband, very well. A lot of Mike on what he's currents the I inherit when he stepped away. And so they understand the situation that ferry very supportive, very, caring. And you know, if you don't mind meals again if it's wrong question. Please. Oh me. With your husband wants the current situation. Are you still in content with him, and it's a really difficult one because we all still marriage, and I live with my sister. We had a house together. And we sold it last year and ju to his mental health and everything he he did become a typical homeless in our town later on and he ended up in the homeless Showtime in our town, and it was actually a client evolves that volunteers there which is how we heard about it. So, you know, it's it's a funny thing about headdress and his well, certainly within the areas that we would we do become point personalities within the event because we work and deal with so many apple that so many people get to know you was to become a little bit conned known to a lot of people. You know, you who's going through such difficult time. Yeah. Definitely. Yeah. Definitely on. How did you not to do with that? With the business, and you know, trying to do anything that you do him. Yeah. Tonight as a side of the coin in this stuff, and and my family have been unbelievably supportive and really understanding. I think because a lot of people knew him before he got on. Well, they they have a different view on it. You know, people have not been judgmental and not been main on kind of such and they just can't believe that someone that had everything because he had ten salons prior to all one that he sold to a big a much larger sound on group. And then he feel this group up again to ten, but he he has lost that now and have that someone can go free that, but it's it is what the sign is true. You know, you you have to hit rock bottom on. He's voting was a long time ago in snow, unfortunately, so he is comedy. And in a homeless situation and a see him an idea speak to him and occasionally not everyday, but casually, and it's just really sad. In a in a couple of months on she's going to be doing the wellbeing month because there's just so many issues in today's times not just us as an industry just generally as as big bluffing. We're struggling with so many things going on around us, and they Saint I am going to suddenly be bringing on full respect to you Kimber. Because you have you've really taken the boob on horns. And and I when you mentioned that you listened to the podcast on you and that kind of renew venite yourself so just took us a little bit about that side. When it was it was really difficult with the end of last year and a needing to find some sort of my evasion. And I found the podcast, and it must have been eighty Jane of last year. And and start listening to all my way into a Hawaii and from work because I had an hour's journey either way. So it's a perfect timing for each episode. And and and came across dived in co on it and seven figure Ceylon, and the he just sparked something in may that made me want to reach out to them which I did on on Instagram. We spoke for for a little while we spike for a couple of months over Instagram, and I just need you to come out ready to say let you know, let's do it. And I took them on. It wasn't somebody. I would have ever done before. Because of my husband him always being the person that made the decisions he was the, you know, he had the foreigner Cy or wise, and it was just my turn to make that decision. And because I had no choice in the one need to get moins version from some way. So that's how listening to podcasts Ray reinvigorate in that inside me an array chat to them. And and you know, they've been. Interviewed at your took. It was episode sixty one with David Bonnett secrets taken asylum. Business figures, how we work without going to inter against the brilliant art could guard for an hour is very easily here. But we can't. How's that helps you business? And now then to what you were before you really started to work with David Nicole tonight. They gave me an understanding of figures festival. Mice budget snake owes the budget light eight she's she's strict, and that's what you need an side. I've given me that undestanding massively in Endo side and putting systems into plice always been a very relaxed. Lana very friendly with Montaigne, very focused on friends with a lot of them, and we will kids together. And it's and it's lovely, but it's business end today. So that helped me to implement systems and the culture of this island has taken an absolute three sixty day. I've changed and cya much they're focused and an it you can just feel the energy in the salon a Saima better. And that he's. Ever been before? And goes though, the ghost. I was never someone did any go sitting. So they've made me set goals and stick to them in doing. This was one of my six month goes I of managed to. Well, you fantastic. I just honestly fool respect in. Somebody who your momma was a hairdresser pretty much bringing us. Oh permit on. All right. So I I have full respect for any woman who is running a business as well as I'm dealing with. I think house going on Ranji. So you say you go. So what's what's the future for you? Then came well, you get what excites you about the next five years of what it is that you do in the industry. I think for us. I mean definitely debt when anymore. Sounds. And a half. If what we've got in on. I'm not going in that direction in terms of growth. And, but I think for us we want to work on education, which is super important, and it's not something I have a really focused on, but we are fighter Saudi cya much this year, and and recognition within industry, you know, having a settled for these low, and I feel that we need to we need to really concentrate on ensuring awards industry will. And I mean, we do color trophy every year. He's our tenth year we in the regional finals again tomorrow some do my motto pit off to here. And so that's an attempt to in that one. But we're we're just ruled in an and Dave Nicole, the other thing that like giving us these connections, the connections adjust of been fantastic, you know, talking to people that are in the group and two other hairdressers up and down the country and. Yeah. Got to make Georgia Belle and Sii hair. It's been. It's so good actually to to to you listeners. Nice wise really special for me doing this. Because now I get to know you guys, and you can tell a lot invoices, and you can feel people, and I feel real goodness coming from you in real focus as well. You send proper focused which I think is probably dive into Nicole of probably really put that into you just to finish. What's Berlin conversation? I love it. But if there's somebody out there that's going through Don times difficult times, whether salon owner or a hairdresser, and I can I'm never going to get to where I really want. What advice would you give to them? And I mean, everybody do with you know, maybe she differently. Some people ought to talk. Some people died on personally three months off into work, and whether that was wrong, but more about. Serving of is I felt like seven Matteo, my family was what helped me, you know, in Clinton giving myself to others. I think an finding you know. Someone like Dave near co. Maybe that's what someone needs. If they're feeling that why they may be reaching out to someone in our industry that can give you that motivation. And I think that's that was soup important to me. What's great about industry? Now. Like never before as you could mess, you someone in Instagram and no message you back which is incredible. You know, I just can't believe we can do that now. So I think that's definitely tokens token to fable and sharing. This store is definitely helped may. From the content. You may with me I wasn't aware of you before that Email, actually, but it really start to cool it with male more. It is the bringing these guests to you'll each week. How can help change your direction focus, and that's why I love doing these and get connect with people like yourself. So thank you so much Naff people want to find you online get in touch with you. Where can I go, and I've got past no and Instagram and kin good John nineteen eighty five and the Salom one is role head offered and will head economic are the two Salim's fit into Kim. I'm sure you'd love to hear from people. And and I wish you the very best look forward, and hopefully we can bring you onto your very own show in the near future. I'd love to say would be amazing. Thank you. So onto our next listener this lady, I have got to know a little bit from a distance from social media. She's being rude. Really supportive of the how to Sukuzi podcast show, and I am really pleased to welcome onto the show. Amanda and Amanda, welcome. Now, you're a coffee addict. Definitely I'll got one in. My does we. We only need a coffee. I have a coffee every time doing interview. But I'm actually I just had a needs to talk up. So, but he's a good place to get will. I'll think in isn't. It is literally that hat and coffee. You know, doesn't exist. So I've given a listen as a quick so a heads up, but just took us a little bit briefly about you. As a hairdresser way, you're based at this time. And a k so I'm based in Raynham in Kent is a small salon in a resident Larrea just so for the high street, and there's about six of us work it in the sun on off been myself sixteen years. So I did my apprenticeship and the. Now manage the show. So we didn't know. Yeah. Sixteen years managed it for about five. And. Yeah. So you kind of not come away from that. But we'll love about what you just said there is you kind of that real hump of the the the everyday shop and hence show being about the everyday foot soldiers at the heavy industry being there. How would you describe your world as a hairdresser? For me personally. And I mean, look the affinity for sixteen years. So when I first started of a very different hedge sews, a very shy very lucky in confidence. And today I was caught new to the agency world, but I think as the are gone on of see the change in. Hey, Jason is when focusing changed and we stop. What changes are you seeing? This selfishly we've have in general. I mean c- has always changing as we know. But even the Cloyne so think what the clients know bit more Israel when they requested. I find I know I know so much more than what they may be new years ago because of social media, so hence, why maybe we get a little bit more, you know, bigger requests, zal Moines debt requests that we never had full definitely in another in previous podcasts of court regularly to it's about managing expectations. And I think the way through our industry we will have to do with that. Yeah. Definitely. I mean because we've heard this many times we've social media people they see things on Instagram, and I just oversee not their fault. But they don't understand. Maybe how it was cheese. And how long it took to the cheese? So that's asset ahead. So all jobs to to help them understand it rather than saying. Yes, or no you've got to almost educate them as well. So yeah. So I'm just going to hold on to you mentioned when you came in to headdress in you, Quan shy. Person. Right. And that's really interested because often I will say another veto VP. But quote rake in the UC youngsters that come into the industry house school and have no social skills, a quite showing aren't and why has hedge warrant does it bring sink how in you in your confidence. And I think for me because obviously you're saying you're forced to you in an environment way, you oversee have to talk to people day. And also you want the customer to feel confident in you. So you have to learn to build your own culprits up because I've was the the customer's gonna come in and say that you'll notice or shall I? And that doesn't get them very positive. Offi Wanaka very positive. Know feeling when they come into you foot voice in for you to garden, you'll feel nervous about it. They can feel nervous too. And there's no there's no cause for this. He said you have got learn on the job. Oh, yeah. It took me a long time not trained for my boss. But. I definitely I think Buddha relation with excellence main muslin became ill, often division two area. Come in is when people do travel, however, oversee you put up relationship with you'll client. So you do learn to the competence together. Think you mentioned residential clients in that Saint wanna know about your Sanlam, right? And again, I don't mean to be kind of not rude about it because he's not being, but, you know, a celebrity western Solano, you know, I mean we've been in physics eighteen years. And I think it's definitely changed. The clientele has changed slightly, but we've always catered for every age group. So it's been from babies to the older generation we get families coming in. We get friends and family. So it's a very lot condo the family orientated through to the salon. What about your work in less than a man? That's what I'm keen to know who who. Long you behind the chair during the week? So I work five days a week. Do we do knuckle C couple of late night, sin evening and? When I first started before I started managing overseas about building McCloy Intel up as I've taken on the managerial role in the lowest point of year is really start to focus on myself was what is the send on? 'cause I was falling didn't always concentrating so much on beta manager was losing the focus the passionate little bit that she doing the hair was trying to be oh so much. And then I read always that she would get in such a ROY t of younger Cloyne company as will as the older people, especially the authority. They wanted. Request stuff are pretty couldn't do anymore. So I had to really do research and push myself back into the hair soit of it. So it's important for you. Then to get yourself back into the soil. The new suicide you kinda maybe losing little bitty interests. So have you done that will unattended to so fair Hilton's social media costlo, July? And that's when I started to really research into Instagram to Instagram, quote, I didn't really know how to use his guard before I wasn't aware of it. So really to Moyes degrom account to start folks that do not research. And that's when I discovered all these different people that you could contact to me 'cause Freud that always just think of local colleges and things that I didn't really understand how much more than was out so excited about one is possible nephew business. Yes, tiffany. Yeah. I mean, even just this last year of done a few courses in even if the cost is going to London for the day or two different areas. And I've contacted different people on social media. Saint can we come up to meet you just look around the Solomon nothing? It just gives the on the stove different ideas of what we can add to also known. I love that from you a look that you'll really going for it and really researched the industry, and then reaching out to people, and you mentioned Joji bell. Former guest of our show is while you got into to jeer. Yes, I think it was because of her story which see you recently interviewed. And I mean, the fact that she was probably not saying at my at my Samsung salon, but she was someone that had to push yourself out there to to get known to get where she wants to be just her story, particularly might be relate to mine and thinking I'd definitely want us to edge to that suicide what she's done. Yeah. Realize that you have to you can't sit back and just let come to you've got to just take your time and get out there and get nine basically these important maybe to be more than just a nine to five hairdresser. I think it's important for like. The clients and for this doll for if the stall just doing the no one to five coveting. Do do. I think it can. I mean for me more point of view can get very boring do love a bit change. And look I think the client lot to see that to to go on your journey. And that's why I think it doesn't just stop when you salon Nico home. You do your research, and sometimes it takes over your life. But if you want to do it, you'll do it, and it won't it won't be taken over your loss. It just becomes your life. You know what I mean? So why is it you amicable and on put me say like most initial dream was always to own my own salon. This is what I felt you will always do an a dream to own my own Selim one day. But I think just Innis lost year. I've had this minute apprentice Lauren she is just like so passionate and made me off Isley helping all along the way and her thanking me for it. It gave me that that buzz. Actually, I think I'd love to maybe all the educational side of things and just to basically spread spread the, you know. Hell you develop in yourself. What sort of shows you go on cool? His you look on line. Yeah. Entered a couple of competitions recently. I think I mentioned to you before I'm going of been through to the phone Lucy fellowship step up and showing. So I'm going to that to this evening to find out either me or whatever lady. But does she go to I think? It's done to us now. Yes. When this goes live, we will know so I will given a mention at the end of it. If you're successful on that neck, thrall listeners are gonna be listening to this. And they're going to be became ROY. I want Amanda to give me one bit of voice to get me really fired up for the industry for career enhancing. What would that be? And well, I obviously listened to your podcast site on the show, isn't it? And I probably the sunny Brooks just nation to my Jodi that that literally with the launch of what? That is as the actually. Despite his sums up everything, I think if you're passionate hedge. So that is nice definitely whatever needs to to watch. So wonderful Tom in you'll coming in of gotta finish. We're looking into the crystal, right? Okay. And we're not in the business plan with who can Cristobal Tom here. What's future for you in five years time? What's it going to be looking like? I'd like to hope that I am may be taken educational route. Let's finish. You'll know why do you want to be an educator? And because I think it's a way of me, especially my passion. But I would to spread it to other people because you can only you can just said about yourself is no snow as to share with other people because if you can see in them that don't know how to get out. You're going to give them the cult foods which look onto the had to start with it gives them the corporations. How could say I'm living this, I'm I'm just going to have to more. These one hundred is all upbringing on the rule. This this is so good to really hear from the humpity of our industry. And it matters a lot to me somebody who's grown up in the industry, and you know, family into here all of us. Yeah. Why we love it? And also the toughness so people thinking on unloving, Amanda, I want to find out more. I want to connect with her. Where can we find you online? And well, obviously, Facebook and Instagram. It's grandma probably focus more sites of hot turns always. Always find a liner. You so much if you coming on today and thank you for your support and listening to the podcast it made so much. It's a no you enjoy and it helps you yet geic side about the industry. No love it. Thank you. So here we are one hundred episode, and I'm really pleased to welcome onto the show. Stacey arose. Stacey. Welcome. Hi, how you doing? Thank you. Yeah. These are big things because because. I you're listener the podcast. We're all used to having these big knives. And then you suddenly thank goodness. I'm on the punk Koster. I mean, you know, what I I kind of understand why I think you've always into signed by not meaning a pills, but I'll caught find a little bap Rainsy. But you should you're only took into Dom and all our foulland's of listeners. But don't let that worry you. Give us a quick heads up about you where where are you based in to this a little bit about your business? I say my business is code the Calvin Cy. I am in north offered chair in Letchworth garden city. So we're about someone between Cape Cambridge in London. And I love my town. And I have got a private salon is the way. I were it better. Between you and me. It's actually just the council back bedroom. It is. It's just the ten bucks twelve room. We've got to Chaz to stations backwash color area and a little white in room. Just looks out onto the back of our generic estate inside you house in but it's great and we've got of plants on the window and golly Carla area. It's great in choosing industry now because we all just use it all kinds of spices to settle also. You've ended up in this space. Okay. Well Cy I wanna start Cy. I am college trained at NAS for college. And I started out pretty much as soon as I got my VR Q two. I started building up. My clientele by appetizing on Facebook through the sellin science and through friends of friends, and I just started traveling around my likely sites about ten. Mile radius, but without car. So I used to do old on the bus with my many bags and suitcases lot. We ni- as a low of. Attacks and build on line two. And I did my back in knowing store show Cy I had to make change, and I started working in my brother-in-law's. Oh, bedroom. So we set it up just had August vote will chair and did it all up in there had a cipher in there, and you know, different bits and bulbs. And why outgrew it I saved up for CIA an appropriate sin chair. And we wish now over the ball with just, you know, an attachment on the on the old boss terms. And yeah, basically, I one there was a competition going on Facebook. We've someone services and it was to win another one of the Chas. I already had and I go that's the sign off in thinking about it and thinking about moving into all may and my husband's out bedroom because we've moved out by this point. So my sits myself five pice one of my best before in office. And if I win this I'm going to invest in myself, and I'm going to build out mild the bedroom because it's slightly the guards next door to the Bassem. So I could get some plumbing in there. And I did I don't know. Yeah. I did. So I had to says, and I had to just had to build it in. So we Kodo the friends of friends in the husband's clients and unite how it is. And we just in together. My mom must step dad may my husband and. Tradesman, and we just kicked it out this lead over him. And to me it's perfect. A how does that were being in your own home? Okay. So I'm in my mother-in-law's house m Cy you come into the front door. She usually welcome shade. And you just walk straight up, and it's like a glass from dose. He can see this is the Sadan and you just walk in. And we've usually go to stylists in hand man, another one of our assistance, and then usually about three people so often about six people in hand, it's very is very comfy cozy, and and yet people people call them, we we've got the backwash in history that have to wash out over the boss anymore. But yeah, it's pretty it's pretty perfect for us. You know, it's listeners a sitting here listening thinking, but you've got to be in a conventional highstreet sell on news. Well, she that night. You don't have to have a hush feet Salam to be succe-. Zestful? You don't have to have you don't even have to have as much as a remote garbage to convert to be successful successes. What you make of it is you are in person definition. And if you're very successful mobile hairdresser, or you were even in at night on a care home or something whatever makes you happy, and you are live in your life, your best potential, and you're giving your oh. And you'll have pay. I I would say that that is successful. I think it's easy to get carried away with what we define a successful. Because you know, I'm sure it would listen listeners listening to you. You know, you bring in someone every wait who's got this, son? Yeah. Probably United sounds pounds. If not millions of pounds in United to ask. That's what we started to save is successful. And we forget that actually, you know, there was probably a point if you told yourself through years ago, you know, in three years time, you're gonna have a team of sex gonna be working in you Muslim. You're your ex bedroom and you'll have okay it out. And you gotta have plans to. United moved to somewhere bigger you'd be saying. Oh my God. I am. I really, and we saw I think tend to forget that you know. And it doesn't have to be. It doesn't have to be a high street Sahlin. You don't have to have some big swanky editorial joke to be successful. You'll have pay and you are you aware, and you have good relationships, and you have as much of a wildlife life balance as you can I believe vice success. Do you have all that? I would say say, yes, I is it you love most about hell you work. I suppose the flexibility I don't have anyone telling me what clients are coming in. I determine what clients of coming in. And I see them all for a consultation at least two days before to do the skin test and discuss Skype out of what I'm going to be doing just in case account fill their expectations. But if they went to turn up, you can get an idea of how much it's gonna cost them. How much it's going to you know, how long are we going to be here? But we quite the in fluid is while site, we'll give them a good estimate. And we say I bring a laptop if you want to work from home. We've got why five bring your lunch? If you want to bring anything you. You wanna bring to make yourself comfortable past juggles, and you'd have in this space. If there is literally just just we just a bit condemn, but not vice that just running out of space. So yeah, I am looking some move. News might like to town height Venise. Dinu Monette, go street. Not conventional high straight. I want to say too much say too much angst in Sunday in the very early days at the minute. Down the road. Yeah. Come back to the year. And so, yeah, I'll definitely have more to tell I'll have to tell y'all should height. Coming up in a future show. She called a a self employed agencies coming on she's going to be talking about keeping engaged in training. Because in a previous episode. We had the lovely caroliina cylinders come on who has a solemn. But she doesn't wrench chess by but one of the things that she said, he certainly when you're in small spices may be more self employed working on your own even you've got a team that how you kit yourselves engaged and developing in your training. How do you keep yourself developing or I utilize everything free? I possibly can. Let's put it that way. And I think that's very important to do research on what you actually entitled team as a hairdresser cypher instance on a mazing whether at coup Jonathan and he always keeps me in the late with the upcoming events and things that not enough people forget that. There are lots of different seminars, you can to within your brand that will fray. And so, you know, we might die out of it made Montaigne we'll go up there. Listen to for instance, the new KPMG plus seminar. Oughta understand how it works. Then we can say how the bathroom to stand in pasta on we go to things like of Salam international, which is where I found that. I I wanted to be a hairdresser we go to glamour and cosmopolitan magazine events we go to like colleges we talked to other people in the industry we follow infinite in. I probably between us probably five hundred different have accounts on Instagram. Like, I think it's very easy. Two. Such rate yourself with knowledge in this day and age recession media, and I think he's just learning how to utilize what's available to you. So, you know, even things if you want to grow your business and things aren't the winter program, we have around here are there to help you grow your business. And then from that from the network with other people that are relevant to our industry, so unites Tokyo's web developers and things like that. But it's always important to keep on heaping on the post, I think because otherwise the comments are going to be coming in and saying, oh, how do we do in AirTouch valley is the night is that I just thing. Isn't it? Have you seen about that? Yes. Yes. Yes. I you know, I wouldn't want one of my clients to come to me shine his Sydney can may never heard of it. So. Yeah. On Luther also in a look defiant diplomacy on your stories, grandma. She also you actually posted the health Kotei podcast, which I love because it costs being played in. In new seller space, and I guess that's a great way. So in terms of love when you listen to guests come onto our show. Do you find that really helps you to in? Definitely. And I think it it opens up your eyes to what else is available. I mean, I'm a college Electra as well. So I teach address in my leg coinage, and we always have them on in the background instead of listening to music, and it really get some five and invigorated side. So yeah that they that obsessed with them. And they always ask you may want you listen to next which one St. recommend because I'm trying to wet my wife will to put costs and. Yeah, I often have them playing in the car getting to and from work or tuned from the coinage, but it starting amazing to have something like what you've produced available to us because I think as well head just as the site busy, the we don't have to answer which programs. We don't have time to sit and read articles, but to have your programs playing in the background is very easy. And it's very, you know, it's just wonderful to be able to relate to what they're saying. And where they've come from that background. I think most of education is. We of come towards the end of the interview, but education is quite Putin to you going forward now. Yeah. One hundred percent hundred percent. Yeah. I mean, I think it's wonderful that there's such a focus on more SU SU CPT style trained in the minute. Sorry. There's lots of edible for us headdresses who are already headdresses unite body, odds courses, I shall media courses, cutting courses unite bring in people traveling from lives awhile to come to the top London venues, too, you know? Demonstrate the skills infrastructure LAN imposs- onto our clients. But I feel there is a little bit more of an issue with however address in people he wants to be head Justice from the stock and so United people coming out school people, maybe older people want to change their career into very malleable, wonderful creative industry and that never gets boring and yet definitely so that's why that is a big topic for me. It's very close to my heart is training. Yeah. Going forward is very very close to my heart. And and is most of my future plans for this time next year. If we're gonna just finish this lovely chant on on one thing. And let's just puts a fifteen year old parent parents in front view, and this due to son is once again to hairdressing and moment data. So now is just not great worth while what would you around? So be to them. This is the most apply ably creative industry are feel you can be in. It's the mice malleable it to you don't have to be working nine to five or you know, every weekend in evening, if you don't want to it's completely what you make of it a Siemens. Don't switch off that you know, we don't have an on off button. We we work around the clock. These days it's incredibly lucrative at. It's you know, we'll know it's one of the most happiest industries to be in is continually developing, and there are so many different possible rates, and no one can take away from you. You know, it's not something you can get struck off on some you can be exactly made redundant from. Because it is a trait and a scale, and it's autism Croft. And there is I don't believe there is anything that could possibly be. So personalized that you can make such love money from so easily. A perfect way to finish this one hundred episode it to hear that. I think is exactly that I want to box on the up and I want tight that ran a UK tool. These as at have Stacey arose. Why had just in his rock is amazing of really loved this time. And does a have with all the listeners today. I just wish I had more time with each and everyone of you. I may be we may just bring you back for that college. What can we fall into you online? Okay. So if you go on Instagram, Instagram and type, Ian, the column hearts, which is CO L O U all in color and sit in height eight RT s of hot for chair. You can find me there, which will lose give you links to my Facebook page, which is the color of hearts as well. My website is currently in the price of a made say that probably the T places you can find me for now. Thank you so much Stacey and finishing off this hundred hundred thanks. Not me. It's been an absolute pleasure to continue against saying. Thank you dumb. Fuck now. Thank you once more than two Danielle? Stacey Amanda Emma and came for coming onto the show today were they wonderful. And it was quite a new experience for them. I Don I know some of the goes quite apprehensive before they done the interviews. But I thought they would just incredible. And it was a really good insight into the world of a hairdresser, and salon owner in two thousand nineteen now if you would like to go and check out any of those links at the goals mentioned as well as the points that we discussed then head over to shown us, which we've prepared for you at W, W dot how to cut dot it slash EP one zero zero nam before we finish it. I I just would like to say a massive. Thank you from the bottom of my heart to each and everyone of you guys that listens in and you have reached that with me with so many amazing messages for the last two and a half years. And when you get into. Touch. And you told me how much the helping your career. How is got you excited about the industry and just how it's opened your eyes to the possibilities. It makes me realize how amazing what I'm doing is. An it makes me just feel so passionate to bring these to you every week. And that is exactly what I'm going to be doing. I'm going to be bringing you these for hopefully, many many more years to come as well as introducing lots of great things. But one listen, I look through messages, and I just want to see a wish I could redo every message that I get, but this kind of one sums up the the the whole show, and what the podcasts are this came from somebody called Lucy Bishop one on Instagram and she message this to me sometime back, but it went holy dawn on only discovered your podcast this morning. An I've listened to free already unfounded it so interesting. It's nice to listen to the. Views with my own idols, and realizing that they all started at the bottom the same as me and not even know these people have made it into the higher even more glamorous ended the industry, they still loved the days when back in the salon Kuttan clients head or just wanted to say fangs I have my own salon, and it can become tarring, and it's so easy to become complacent in the everyday running of it you'll podcasts and interviews have given me my fire back in my belly. Can't wait to listen to more that sums up Lucy Bishop. 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Episode 54 -- Waddell Wilson Part 2

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Episode 54 -- Waddell Wilson Part 2

"Hello my name is rik houston and welcome to the scene bob podcast your source for all things nascar history wind up on a pole boy boy that really did set them on. This is what really hurt we run out of guys coming down the backstretch buddy baker bobby out all guys cookery lamp when you knew exactly what hand sandbox done everything rob the one thing i can fly that day nascar and all associated anyway when nasqad talk forget. It's passed as today. We don't have any hello. I'm steve wade and i'm rick houston. Welcome to fenway park like no no. That's not a welcome to the baseball. No that's not by gettysburg steve. I'll tell you what last week talked about us going on vacation now. I've come back from vacation steve. We drove two thousand miles one thousand nine hundred ninety seven gooby exactly in five days with your wife and two sons scoring with my wife and eighteen year old sons we all survive survive the trip i did not set them out on the side of the road. It was an awesome trip adam. Ah had the best seats i've ever had for a major league ballgame. We were almost rat on the field at fenway size that was pretty cool and then to watch adam go through the tame store man he doc. I wish i'd had a million dollars to just turn him loose in there. I'm fury spin it but i'm telling you that was pretty coal and then after that you know we were on on a more relaxed schedule because we didn't have to get to the ball game. We went to the baseball hall of fame in cooperstown and then after cooperstown. We hit here gettysburg. Oh yes well. I really appreciate the call you gave me from work when you said you're on top up lulu around i did. I called you from favorite spot on the battlefield. There's a rock right next to the statue of in their guvener. Warn born and i was sitting on my favorite rock. They're just kind of taking in that same and it's such a special place. That truly is how a ground recommend the everyone if you've never been pleased go. It's very interesting and i think you'll be moved. What you say yes you will absolutely be moved by what you see and this this week on the episode where you're going to play the second portion of our interview with what al wilson and he talks nineteen eighty daytona five hundred grey ghost rageh buddy baker oh and that was a pretty car then the next year they came back with bobby allison and maybe that ray st turn out quite the way that they would have liked and had quite a bit of controversy with that yeah absolutely they came in with a car. The nascar did not suspect we'll be in the field a pontiac <unk> grand lamar and it was discovered that car and decided hey the shape of this car is aero-dynamics perfect and they went and tested at talladega they found out they had something real good on their hands and then steve he talked about the nineteen eighty-one daytona five hundred being one of the two biggest disappointments much of his career and the second biggest disappointment of his career was kale yarbrough crashing during qualifying for the nineteen eighty three daytona five hundred on two hundred miles an hour and that was really spectacular at the time i think hale was trying to go even faster on his second lap and then he went two hundred miles an hour upside-down trying to best. I beat and got a little bit out of control. He got a whole lot out of control and then what l. kinda concludes and talks about the kind of the dream team with hendrick motorsports wasn't no it was a nightmare and then of course the finish of the nineteen ninety-one race at sears. Here's point that did not go what else way not at all the results of that race on unlike anything i've ever seen that a nascar before or sense can't thank goodness and then in our second segment we're going to talk about the september tenth nineteen ninety-two issue of winston cup saying that kerry very coverage of darrell waltrip very last victory at darlington. Yes it was his last career victory and it's hard art blakey daryl race for eight more years after that season and didn't win another race. Now there was a paragraph in your rice late that i kind of took exception to oh so we'll get to that in that segment okay. You took exception to me. Yes i did buddy. Oh boy oh yeah. You need to stay tuned for that. One and steve on patriarch in we have no support from michael cole sean brennan and josh jargon five dollars a month breath. You will get one kasich issue of winston cup saying ten dollars a month on patriot. You'll get to classic issues and also if you do five dollars is a month or more you will be receiving one of these darlington raceway commemorative issues of grand national saint and you don't want to miss that had you absolutely do not wanna miss that so patriot dot com slash the same vault podcast or if you'd rather just do a one time show of support that would be pay pal dot ni slash the same podcast. Please help us out if you can because your support is what helps us move on down the road <music> whereas it was in nineteen eighty with buddy baker that it at least to me <hes> although why dale wilson was well known in racing nascar circles. This was the race that they aw five hundred in nineteen eighty brought you to the attention to the fans because you came down there with buddy and i think it was an oldsmobile black and gray hoes will colorado gray allies so much behind that story you know it's probably one of the the highlights of my alarm you know to start with it the next in the season you don't want to have some trouble with some guys shop doing different things they shouldn't be doing and and season ended and then they was only three of us left in the shop period <hes> going into nineteen eighty. Is this seven day in the seventy nine so going to eighty season. You know like i said there's only three of us in the shop here. I looked out racecar and i remember it. All i learned about dynamics and rolling resistance in anything. Thanks mike reiss cargo fast science rail. There's a mile to put everything. I'm all in learning about race in the put it into this race car so bob sweet tech. I'd worked home on a mood and he had his own shop at that time so i went to him and i need this oldsmobile. I wanted to take it apart. I won't say exactly what i want you to and and we own on drugs strings down the side and everything and you know i want the body move forward because it was legal. You do the things that that time. It wasn't nothing wrong with that. Magic steel couldn't move so far but i told him i said now when you get phased thing that long template has to fit like a glove but i had a reason for slant but anyway i i knew nascar be all over me. I wouldn't let her favorite people that don't think time but anyway i'd go at at lunchtime and look at it and i said no cutting back off as they was getting the sides messed opponent front fenders back fans can big bubbles on the quarter panels. I'd like that. I wanna darter. Dynamic is just today. Mike is you could possibly might want finally got the car fantas. Take it back to shop in the meantime. I'm working to in christmas and new year. I said i know the only personal working largest but i had so much to do and then i finally got enough people will be have a pickering so we go to daytona and ryan you know right out of the box car was very fast and <hes> i remember that wake you know i'll take a one about everything that week so anyway i remember sunday morning league may to call me karaj office i went in. He run everybody out and he said i'll tell you something he said. There's nobody here wants to run against that race car. Today is addict addict racecar nothing wrong with it. He said we know we've been. We've checked. It ever not answer the accident where you had to cover so funny thing about it. It was almost saturday night before five hundred they on a radio show a welder beach and <hes>. I will tell them out of the race how the leak leak was going and i said come in the morning and bill france collared aiming komo. We don't talk to you more. You mentioned up to show your stinking up your show. I said i'm i'm not doing anything wrong. Deals taking up so anyway. I'm telling your story. I'll look a nerve betty jane and bill france sitting in the front display. I kind of have to that. We become friends because he finally figured out that i was not doing anything oh and go back to john home in which oh i didn't bring us up john home of the ten years. I worked for him. He said l. fair. Catch you cheating on fire you. He told me that you could win race without cheating and not only that i'll let you know that's where i want to do it anyway. I didn't want to look over my shoulder and more about getting caught for this or that. Take my time working on something legal ryan make it go face. I'm not getting trouble rebel but during that race you know that was unbelievable race car how fast it warms and doing practice. I remember the people component. The drivers complained about say coming upon suffice. We can't seem coming right so we've had to paint the bottom of the part of the sort of ah yeah. We did it so so they can see the car but it was. I remember one way started to paint that car. You know i picked out what color that had a corvette of gray on top and then the black bottoming in where i had trouble with the three stripes down the side you know had the yellow and orange orange and red when the match and i remember mobile people come daytona and look at it and his helmet and come up with this race car beautiful rice going buddy had tried for a lot of years at that point to win the daytona five hundred it was almost an early precursor to the winless streak that del earnhardt heart had in the daytona five hundred. What did it mean to you once. He crossed the finish line to be able to give him that daytona five hundred victory well. He told me start art where he said. I'm not gonna win is right for nineteen years and it's it's voted me and our can't figure out how to win the thing and but he tried to give it away. Basically it does come down to the last pitch up. I remember this and i nobody is. He's coming to me. I said now you gotta stop. Stay out. Don't get close to us so you can go straight in straight out and we need six seconds. You sat in here. I get the gas in it and i'm thinking about tad government. Why are we going to get thanks to dump quick enough because i knew how many seconds it took a dump cana- gas benign you the restriction today. It's being amount i said punch knocks on bond that what guys can and will hate. It breathes better so knock some holes but anyway when buddy stopped you know i i wrote tin wind chill wind grab hold on and <hes> and i can tell that he was going only go 'cause he but arena we can in one thousand two. I got up to six and he'd done doppler clerks well. I'm trying to get more mouths began to the gasman here hooked up access point. Stop up and your chromebook got gas canned and you know at christ their own road but anyway go back on a racetrack will. He has a nine second lead. Read code bobby allison bud moore's ford was drafting us but i guess i changed or outside. I'm not sure being away we had an articulate and then he goes ten seconds sega second said buddy slow down he holiday. I can't hear you stretch it out. Thirteen seconds i mean he was going and they will to lapse apps ago. I was a coaching so that helps us but i don't know if we made it all the way or not but anyway went and victor circle and on air detail list but whenever i picked up a car from bob sweet tech he knew he didn't give me a bill at that time emailed it to me ten thousand dollars. Also you buy four race card. I don't get me fired right there without hurt me whole week. All i could think about it that ten thousand dollar bill on that race car and hurry i don't know anything about it so anyway getting victor lane and by the way and he's you know one of the nascar people they've come up tearing donald standing beside him and he said well today you just said a speed speed record for the all time for fights at five hundred mile and not all that you want two hundred and three thousand dollars to know where you were ninety three o._t. And for roy score. I know you come back today. Tana onto the next year with bobby allison and you have the whole controversy with that was that out of two places places that are still today. They're both at daytona and that's one of them but we were dying when when he's running mobiles and then we decided to go stay with those mobile oh baby holy building those mobile went down to test it in december and <hes> so he's going round racetrack warming up. I'm listening to that rice car. You're not told run lick. He said way up to speed. I said nope we get up to speed listen that i said it's like a flag flapping in the wind is beaten eaten against it sale and it didn't so we sent a guy outside tanasugarn get it was legal for that year next year so we come back quinn had a pontiac grand prix in pontiac lamont's lots of lemoyne's so we go. Hey for practice we go to the dealership asked him about lamont. We don't have a lot when you show pitcher fastback yeah. That's it so are called the guy's job to building so they went got the sheet metal. We put it together. We go through talladega halladay and of course they're clock in the car talladega. Tell in daytona how we're willing to naked told them going fast. It was i didn't have it that face for my stop apart so we showed up at daytona with and and your come a whole bunch of them looking the thing and an eight a big lincoln towncar their new. He's edem gets a net towncar. Go out to bring him back. Listen uh well. How did you come up with. This and build gaz waves day night beside him. I said well here's a sheet and then all the media our together around they already seen what was going on. I said it's almost as pontiac grand prix and going by the rules signed by bill galloway before poor bill frasca catch yourself. He doesn't pick jumped all over. Bill gas way for not checking it out so then we had to sit there. They didn't have a car in the state of florida. They found one in georgia. You brought it down might tampa tougher and i'm thinking whether it's one tampa up a bunch of them temple's head and then we plead on race car if if we're built the race card by the template have been a lot faster because it was all in our favor put sheet mail on it it went against us so anyway we finally get to to inspection it was like fifteen for the end the practice next as qualified so we do get couple apps on the racetrack then we're going to talk next day qualifying wind up on a pole and boy that really did set amount like that but they were laid the rice all day a. and then this is what really hurt we run out of gas coming down the backstretch for the last time the gas it cost five hundred now from bat point is i remember. I remember talking to both you and harry about it. Nascar kept changing the specs for that car <hes> almost at the point where you just right well they kept taking a spoiler off of it and then finally we just had to give up the corn quinn you couldn't you couldn't raise so you know without some downforce on it is that a nascar vendetta got caught. I know that bobby was particularly disappointed about that. Races wall and i think that he's mentioned that kinda. Maybe hurt your relationship. Do do you remember anything about that or no. I don't i don't remember any bad of anything that you know it. Just one of liam claims that you know i've always wondered by. What did we do wrong did we did. We don't figure the feel mileage correctly they went. I'll get gas with all we did so many ups and then the next thing he was leading the race all time so that's gonna run burn fuel when your front breaking there yeah so. I don't know anyway what it meant to win. We didn't now. You said that that was one rice. That really disappointed you. What was the other well. You know whenever we would k._o._a. Unwanted flip back card. I tunnel those two things in both of them. Having daytona really heard kale came on board what year now well he came came to the end of <hes> really eighty two in going into two three season okay but i remember that flip but in eighty three and again in eighty four you won the daytona five hundred with kale now eighty three was the year that he qualified at two hundred on the first lap and then wrecked act on and then wrecked on the second well what happened you know was the yearbook <hes> in <hes> eighty two would benny parsons we we both two hundred miles and aren't talented for the first time you know which are the bigger bigger thing than i thought it was at the time i remember going outside and get some tickets guys <hes> <hes> you know bring their wives down to get in and i mean they were jumping up and down impose. I really sold tickets two hundred mile run and then being the first one to do that that was bake exalt then at the end of the seventy eighty two season you know then you know bobby left and <hes> d._n._a. Eight eighty one end starting to come in but it in the start of the same news agencies season i remember k._o. Come to minutes drive at rice car. I thought he was kidding. Me so shunned it off went on but win. Bobby come driving so then then at talladega the second race awesome <hes> he came up to again. Kale said dammit one. L. owned job at race. He never said nothing like that. I can't let you you series. He saw no serious in my life well. I was really shocked he wanted to do that aren't so i'll tell you one thing you've got to ride. I'm near came came the racetrack. I said well. Are you done. What i mean i could tell the look on his face in dollar done it over him any of them. They didn't can understand why done that. He's well okay who jar kale yaba here kit nope. He said good deal but anyway i remember being at detroit and win thome with at the end of that season chile. Come one nope we pay with switched to them so i told him we would so they send us hollow point. We needed to race on so we built that car and we go out the window wintom at g._m. And in the winter when the you know the race track sa- conference in them right here soon then horsepower. I add no dragged number that calculates out to the car to three. You're kidding you. Wait and see saint anyway. We get the daytona and forty five flats two hundred mile air and kim's ruining forty five a._m. New native ninety what is wrong rice car yeah wow well it but i was used to a uh buddy baker and bobby allison all guys two or three laps and you know exactly what chant campbell sandbagging he'd really in haifa laps or whatever he's doing but anyway oy. He's told me he said day poor-quality so we're okay worrying about it. He said let me tell you something. I never been enough in their face. He said insulin go down the backstretch and he said as a couple of bumps that actually spins attire and beneath when i go into turn and to me it's like you know whole needle try and three but he said don't mansa car hits okay okay all right so go to qualify then he goes back here and being spoiler down more our two had it down twenty degrees best. I remember but you might as well take it off because a notchback it had lift start wheel in the rear so he goes out there to qualify thing i lap. He run forty four seventy something as well two hundred mile and down the backstretch him guys in power. There's jumping up and down hollering they. They tell me i afterwards at one guy was timing at different dental. He said you think that's something he's a clip at two or three now and then when he went in turn three you know then he ended up upside yeah so anyway bite you pick me up on pit road and went up to the race cars set up by back on wheels. One of the guy was staying there bidoon alright william firemen. He said only think hey why not break two hundred mile there. We went and infield air center. He was in there and he laid checking him out. I looked up at me so don't everything right but one thing he put controls in flight quiet inside. He's he's our new as well. Is it true that you actually went out and got a show car well or is that legend well looming alright what happened when we come back in the garage to i won grammy with bill france and he said well he said you've got your two hundred miles an air he said in view stay fix that race car so we'll leave somebody where you're where you're twenty four hours a day and you can work until thursday and then start to one twenty over one fifty whichever and run a couple of hours. Come back and finish it an hurry when you walked up to me and say well my jet setting out here. Goffin came at farms at my jet-setting. Let's set out here if you can use it either one of them chevrolet call got in touch with him and said anything you need from detroit. We'll have it down tamar so off the guys and they'll tell you the guys who can kill wanted to bring waiting whenever we come with us and we're not going to work on it right on three hours. We're going to be happier when i go may night race car so i remember leonard. Would it combined. He said well. You're not gonna fix royce gone. He's let me tell you sent. He said you've been on a pole for life for years. Different drivers different cars and now you're gonna gonna break your starting a puzzle well. I wanna fix it. He said let me tell you something. You'll always regret it which he very true a funny thing it said junior johnson by human movies friends he said anything goes out a turnover so basically it was the crew that made the decision said did they didn't wanna fix it. Why not yeah i did well. I didn't want to be in the time. I knew it was gonna be some long hours to get it peeled yeah and <hes> but we can pick stories car could have paid some we bought input into twitter nas hold. It granted cox. Oh really now then then we come. I yeah i called my son greg. He's back in charlotte and i told him bring out <hes> lamont down there might show are rarely and so. He brought it down there him a free meal is free and had a pickup truck and trailer et. He started out race cars on say brought it down there on we'll load it and put it through inspection qualified it. We didn't put a lot of everything but he run one hundred ninety five miles in there but then caitlyn his ability sunday sunday come and <hes> you know he won the daytona five hundred which remarkable absolutely one again and eighty four but i always hated if we do if we'd finished that lap where he flipped it to three win it on the poll but five mile air poll car ended up one hundred ninety eight now now bill france would have been so how did the deal with hendrick motorsports come about. When did you first hear about that. Well uh sad to say you know you know with having trouble paying bills and <hes> the guys in the shop kept saying we need to get us out of here so being honest about it. That's in the same time. What is it daytona win. Racist and ray kennedy would be on a motorhome. Martin extra victory lane hollered at let me said well these days alone you okay. You ended up owning me so you came on board in eighty seven. Eh you were daryl's cruzi starting in eighty seven and that was the drain tame quote unquote. I noticed that smirk. They had their yeah what was wrong. What had well. I get into full details. Part happened but here did a lot of things brought into play you know i they say you know whenever rick in our discuss may come into work pointman so i finally told him i would. It was always just dr william nobody in the middle and then the dan i have to that as other people involved in this went south. I think we can pretty much determine where someone might have gotten in the middle but we don't well yeah. Let's leave that light but anyway you know rick you know. He's a great yard but you know he didn't know so what is going on with his team. He's it's chevrolet. Selling selling cars gets his time at the racetracks. So you became a team manager yeah uh of the hendrick motorsports you started out with daryl and then you became the team manager and then i think you went to be jeff's crew chief well at some point yeah jail jail you know good good relationship about nine jared potter and he's great driving guy got to work with. You know twenty guys it. If if the public knew he met howard different respective of him brian because he was a great guy an anti marijuana ricky rudd ninety and ninety ninety one wound you know we ended up second in points and they took roy away from us at sears point. Oh yeah let's talk about that a oh. He loves baby allison. Anyone baby allison is the leader on the last lap ricky's behind him and things turn in eleven that they made contact nascar assuming at the time that was all roads fall. They shove davey. I ought to track doc and rich come around and he did not get the checkered flag. You got a lemon to the white two white yeah okay well that was that was one horrible deal. You know i remember you know. Dignity was not out there. He was not calling the race on. We media one darlington was leading the points ricky ricky watters and ricky a heck of a road racer coming into that turn and you know you see both of them was on the brakes. It wasn't like ricky. Let go the break. Could you could watch the front end of the cars entail what he was doing with the paddles and he hit him and police him out but before that race you know that's whenever geoff bodine and and <hes> earnhardt and and and <hes> alien and all of us get into wreck in each other and everything and finally they said you keep it straight to lies couple apps then you have added so anyway it was dan come into the white flag in and then they wouldn't give us a lot give it to ricky i mean to davey and anyway they had lap down and then went into the trailer talking meal france and i remember him saying whatever don't get this personal and i who <hes> you know i was so right about that. I mean i never seen them do that. Before i was my next question essentially qualified right well correct yeah and then they finally come back and put a so many seconds back and give a second place but i remember i come back home addict bay okay tacoma and the next day and is what al i never took raceway p._m. So that was not right and bill france had come to me. It's a cerebral time to front me about it because he knew it wasn't a but he you just backed his people. He knew that shouldn't have been done. Nobody tomasa barely don't ever do another team like that again. Because i said you helped us out. You actually wiped us that when you've done and <hes> being that was a you ran second in points grail what could have happened had edgy won that race yeah. It took a moment amount of us. You know i mean what are you going to take it right away from me and you've never seen anything black before in already your long career no but i couldn't. I couldn't get enough to get it chains. They had their mind made up. You know les les richter and hoots. They would hoots with calling the race and they never called race before. How long did it take you to get over that. Never okay. I can imagine there was one time you left hendrick motorsports and then you went to work for after that i went to hedrix larry and then we run a ricky craven and joe nemechek. We run both him with craven. Craven had a good good year with him. We ended up winning rick rookie of the year with the ricky craven okay so you work for larry edrich and then. I believe that you went over to be team manager for rick mast <hes> didn't rain but at nine nine awed you know he was trying to buy kale out and start at team and kill me coming manage right but then i didn't work out you know clinton come up putting money so lead the year two thousand and by then you essentially retired forget to question but did you really wanna do or did you think woah that time. I was pretty well burned out. You know last couple round. I had burnt me out and what have you done in retirement well now. I work for jericho transportation paypal jerry. You know the owner you know i i would looking for work but he wanted to know coming up him. He knew i knew the people on could get in their shops and and it was good because i go i go by aggravate me. It was a good relationship the world do you know the last couple of years. There has been kind of a groundswell of support. When it came to the nascar hall of fame i did an interview you with rarin ham before this year's election and he said we have to get what else into the nascar hall of fame when you hear people like like that speaking in your favor and saying that what needs to be in here. What did that mean to you. Well it means a lot. When you period you know people like him with the reputation it rahab in in saying making comments like that you know it really makes you feel good but did you ever see yourself getting into the hall of fame. No no definitely not because you know all through my years i was in the background right and it was always owners and and drivers not and you know not crew chiefs or engine builders or whatever so to get into this and you know it. Just i just have to thank god for it well once again. We congratulate you and we thank you for talking with us. It's been fascinating bad. Okay you guys. Thank you so much. Both of you <music> at darlington. Raceway tradition comes comes alive. Here's bill elliott out of turnover. Four herald kinder- has the checkered flag in hand elliot takes it and wins the winston million and the southern five hundred seventy years of racing facing the track too tough to tame how come celebrate the nineties with us at darlington raceway on labor they weekend earnhardt will win his second southern five hundred six victory at the darlington raceway in south carolina jeff gordon will win mark. Martin makes it four wins. The role to purchase tickets call eight six six four five nine race aleco at you racist off turned number three back to start finish to take the checkered flag or visit darlington raceway dot com the measure of career winning a stubborn five hundred bring the family and relive the history richmond rich but gets the jacker at richmond wins the southern five hundred south carolina just right so steve. What do you know about the situation at the end of the nineteen seventy eighty nine season where the rainier racing team had three guys left at the shop that really stuck out to me because i really hadn't heard a lot about that. I it was a situation where the team we on certain how much further could go on ebay that gets a situation at that particular time and you know it was a skeleton crew through trying to get ready for the daytona five hundred i loved what he said about kind of misogyny that car i kind of had a vision of harry hog in the i'm gonna give you all over the ground of course they weren't set up an old abandoned bar but he wanted that car the way that he wanted it and he wanted as aerodynamic is he could possibly get in hollywood. I believe that's what he got. He saw the potential in the car. So so what the hell was very careful about making sure that the car was aerodynamically sound as it could be once they got down to daytona and basically won the pole one. They're twenty hundred twenty-five and dick beattie bill france junior came to him and said you're sticking up the show and while they l. said everything's legal yeah i will head to be legal was john home and told him not to cheat and that's because i think that right car at a bullseye on it it was being on be heavily scrutinized by nascar particularly after hit run everything he did win in daytona and stinking up the show you know nascar hat is is square on that car and try to catch anything possibly could and steve the other part of that portion of the interview that we did with what l. i almost laughed out loud when he talked about the bill that he got for that car for ten thousand dollars thousand dollars for the whole car now. I'm sure that didn't include the engine or transmission or anything like that but that's still <hes> money for that time but ten thousand dollars and he was afraid to tell harry room near how much that thing cost i kinda giggled when he talked about how much they won and he said no not quite as we've run this much not that much but we've we've won the purse minus ten thousand now not tina you one daytona five hundred watt. L. said they was one of the two races that hurt him. The most steve wow was that car so controversial well first off it was a pontiac grand lamar and it was on the list of legal cars for nascar but no one one really anticipated what it really was and it was spotted at a car lot by alison yeah and took a look at it and said hey we gotta try this thing out and so he told why they on harry about it. They took the car to talladega before heading the daytona and tested it and when they tested it there here they knew they add something they did very well have something but they got to daytona in. I think nascar was kind of spun out about it. It was something that they didn't expect aspect and certainly the competitors. It was something that they were expecting to have to compete against but did i hear what l. correctly. They only had to fit one long template. What he said one long temple i can remember going to inspection at several races and seeing that they might have had more than one long one but if they did there was only two or three of them and the long one when it's the one that mattered because that was the one that gauge the length of the car and not only that the the era dynamic strength of the car and grandma had that rear window. Let's slope downwards yeah and it gave it that much more downforce on the track and dan nascar during the inspection couldn't do anything about it because it was legal so with a car being legalized that and nascar not being prepared for tells me that nascar pretty much got caught with your pants down so to speak so you don't think that the grand lemond would have been able oh to survive the room of doom today all no i don't think so they get into the race and bobby runs and out of gas and it cost him the daytona five hundred and when i talked to bobby for the podcast that still kind of didn't and sit too well with him and obviously it didn't sit too well with what l. alternate at the end of the year bobby left left the thing that respected about what l. hated not talk bad about anybody he wasn't about to criticize bobby allison no and he wasn't about out to criticize. You know some deals that came later. They will talk about a minute or two. He played those cards pretty close to the vest. Yeah interestingly why what the hell could have been only myself because they may their last stop was for two tires and gas and it took them seventeen seconds to do the next two guys that came in but by the baker and dale earnhardt two seconds quicker and how complex into the race changed when richard petty came in and took on gas ask only for seven seconds yeah he had a ten second lead when the race resumed and that was more than enough not teenager three kiara in qualifying. He turns two hundred miles an hour on the first lap qualifying. He's still building up momentum. It looks like he's going to go. I believe wedel adele said two hundred and three miles an hour and the next closest guy was what one hundred ninety eighty cents yeah so kale goes into turn three three and loses control air gets up under the car and yeah he winds up on the roof. Absolutely the windshield popped out of that car. Yes i remember remember seeing that clearly to this day. You know that's interesting about what kale was trying to do you that he was helping to make nascar history and you can't faulting for trying extra hard to go even faster on his second lap no question he was trying to make nascar history but unfortunately it didn't work out nevertheless it <hes> it says something about kale yarbrough and he stallard driving and there is dick brooks mavra standing next to in the garage here and dick looked at me after he's all that incident. He said you know if they want to castrate that s obese chainsaw okay. There's a new quote to be. That's the quote quote debate for this by guest now steve. Did i hear again. Did i hear what l. correctly when he said that. The crew basically refused to repair the car yeah they did. I said my understanding from what i heard from houses. Nobody really wanted to put the effort into it because it didn't think it was worth it. I yeah but that's a little surprising it is to me too. I would think that he had a car going that fast and you saw it. Go past you. Try everything everything you could to put it back in the race. It sounded to me like there might have been a little bit more than what what al was willing to say could be could be yeah yeah so again not to ninety three daytona five hundred the legend has it that they went back to the shop and what else signed brought down what was essentially a show car and kyle drives it to victory using that just that beautiful slingshot move on the last lap. I believe that one was on was it buddy baker. I think nineteen nineteen eighty three was buddy baker and then eighty four he got around darrell waltrip on the last lap so that show car rampart well for kale in the other segment meant that we kind of talked about that i kind of wanted to know about was what l. and the dream team at hendrick motorsports and darrell waltrip and and the todd sponsorship but what l. he wasn't going to say about that deal out. Here's the situation to wrap it up pretty quickly. He had too many cooks. Six in the kitchen. Deal was used to dealing with the team motor one on one yeah now he had another fellow daryl very opinionated <hes> also looking for that same audience and when the head contracting ideas it it was gonna be a real message to figure out which way we're going to go because the situation was who is going to get his way me why del or you you daryl and that was a very difficult situation. During the course of the year why didn't last the whole year as darrell watters crew chief and then he became aimed geoff bodine's crew chief and kinda was in the pits when jeff was going up against dale earnhardt and some of those heated battles and then in nineteen ninety one on he was the crew chief in the pits at sears point when ricky rudd got ended back davey allison come into the white flag and even now i can see see what el- wilson just fuming yeah after the checkered flag and they had given the race to davey allison and penalized ricky rudd. I guess it was what five up seconds a couple of hours set up the whole situation. Y del said hey come on guys. You know punishes in you you can but don't take this race away from us and that's what they did was at that race in nineteen ninety one. I was totally surprised that nascar did what it did because because always had the philosophy that the fans should see the real winner of the race. Well isn't that what they got but that's it's not what nascar determined in that particular race. If you take the race away from ricky rudd at sears point in nineteen ninety one you take the race away from dale earnhardt at bristol in august of nineteen ninety nine. Can you believe that's been twenty years unreal unbelievable unbelievable people still talk about that bristol finish wayne dale earnhardt and terry labonte so yeah if you take it away from ricky you've gotta take take it away from dale well. How many more cases over the years have we seen where we can say. Hey you've got to take this race from this guy but they haven't done it no to be honest with you at bake. It all goes back to the furious reaction that nascar received. I think that really proved that maybe they didn't do the right thing in that case ace and whatever happened after that i hate to say boys have at it yeah no matter what happens on that have definite change in philosophy from nascar asker after that race and it must be said. I think what they'll point is out. <hes> the crew officiating the race was not aguilar's normal normal dictator was there wasn't there david hoots called the race and hurts your favorite. David went on to call mini any mini races and just recently within. I think this is his first year every time. I don't know it's just some fun to talk about. It's never going to be resolved. Ricky ricky rudd never going to be given the win back but that's the way it goes. Steve followed brian kelp on twitter and instagram at speedway screens and check out his inventory at speedway t s j a dot oetzi dot com this week we talk about darrell waltrip and basically two phases of his career the tide era and also the western auto. Oh era brian has t shirts has apparel for both of those eras. I'm not surprised he also has a ricky rudd shirt. That's very cool. He also also has a davey allison. Mack tools busch series shirt so you need to check that out on speedway t s j dot oetzi dot com awesome some stuff september tenth nineteen eighteen ninety two issue of winston cup saying kerry coverage of the nineteen ninety two southern five hundred at darlington raceway steve. Tell me about that race. Sir because darrell waltrip fell into that one well yeah. You could say that that race was rain shorten. Yes and they're always the leader. When the caution came out because of the rain right and of course he was later two hours later so he was declared the winner now <hes> admitted at the time that he something to the effect that okay. Maybe this race was somewhat given to me but i'll take it now rick. Every <music> single driver who has won a race under similar conditions earned yes. I'm absolutely no viewer in first place. When the rain starts that means you aren't able to win the race and to win a race. I you must be in position. Just a highly are you listening and this has happened to many many drivers and it doesn't tarnish one thing as far as uh-huh. Oh it does not absolutely does not now in this race lap to eighty five. There's a cycle of green flag. Pit stops that starts davey allison gives up second can place and rusty wallace also comes in lap two eighty eight leader mark martin pitts lap to eighty nine dow jerk comes in and that gives it was ricky rudd the lead with darrell waltrip moving up to second then lap to ninety two rickets and d._w._i.'s the later lap to ninety six. There's a yellow flag for rain nine laptop ninety eight. The red flag comes out with darrell waltrip at the head of the pack. Now wires all bad entire secrets you about darrow's gas mileage. Jake elder was his crew chief so you know there might have been fuel lines packed all the way through those roll bars you know through the firewall you know we might have been buckshot you know somewhere being led out or whatever but they're all trips ahead of the pack when it counts the most and absolutely can't take that away from him daryl had won the week before at bristol so this was two straight wins for him now davey who is going for the winston million bonus after winning the daytona five hundred and at talladega earlier in the year and legend has it that larry mcreynolds a crew member to check out the radar and the guy came back and said it it looks clear to me and so larry brought davian and and and all the grain that gosau he thought that that meant that it was clear oak green means go so i don't know who that guy i was. I don't know how much longer he remained employed by that team but it did cost them a one million dollar bonus last week we talked about david going for the one hundred thousand dollar bonus from winston and having a pop rivet get in the way that's two races or he had a lot of money on the line and for one razor narrow. It didn't work out well. The race had gone green is very very good chance they would have won the race his car. That's wrong and there are leaving said. I guess it's actually go there and apologized today for what happened but i ain't going to stay. Let me read this paragraph to you. Get your reaction action. Okay it was also wall trips eighty four th career victory and that's fun that's accurate. It was his fourth career victory which tied him with bobby allison for third place on nascar's all time list now. What do you have to say for yourself mr wade. I'm following the record book. It's it's in black and white our. I know what you're going to say. You've drank the koolade duly. This was darrell waltrip eighty four th career victory which put him one behind bobby allison for third place on the all-time time list yeah yeah. Where is it bobby one. They didn't get credit for it because he was in a greenwich leash car a grand american cochran close okay that was at bowman gray stadium and not seventy one august of nineteen seventy-one. You can make a good point. That bobby did win a race legally. They didn't recognize it 'cause he was in a grand american car now. My question is how many grand national races in the past were won by convertible given credit winning a grand national race even though it was a convertible tiny had their own series tiny any line one races at hickory. I believe it was north wilkspur in a grand american camaro yada yada yada. He gets credit for those races. This is on his winston cup total or whatever but oh bobby now okay it was also walter eighty four th career victory which tied him with bobby allison third place on nascar's off. I just want you to sit in ruminate on. If you lose sleep over it that's on you man dan i have ruminated and i do agree. There's an issue there with bobby allison's eighty fifth and i'll go along with you you and say he did win eighty-five raises but if you use record book that nascar provide you you got to write what they say oh okay. We're just gonna have to agree to disagree on that one okay. 'cause we talk about this for. I don't know how long the day before the nineteen ninety-two southern five hundred michael waltrip won the tracks busch series rice so that was pretty cool. That was a good weekend for the walker fan trips. We've talked about in other podcasts. We've talked about the letters to that intersection and there's a pretty good one in this one this letter they're came from t- wayne robertson who was president of sports marketing enterprises the sports arm of r._j. Reynolds tobacco okay so he's a big week big and in this letter he apologizes to todd vote on because bristol a couple of weeks before tide had gotten gotten into jeff burton with a few laps to go in the butcher's rice at bristol burton spun and bohdan went onto win race now. That's one thing that happens at bristol wrestle but after the race jeff burton kinda came up alongside todd kind of gave him a little shot in the door and then as they came onto pit road. I think jeff kind of ran ran into him again. Kind of nudged alongside him again didn't exactly ramming but of course was alongside him and i'm sure it was expressing his opinion. Yes he was yeah well in all the uproar the winston scoreboard. I believe it was overturned. Two at the time the winstons scoreboard comes comes up with a message and it says boo boda whoops and that's something that she cannot blame on a computer error. Okay that was a loose nut behind. The keyboard is what that was so evidently what happened was the computer operator evidently topped in this message and whether it was by mistake or not hit send and it went to the scoreboard and and that really kind of lift the fire under the whole thing certainly didn't help matters guinea not at all and key wane robertson also said it will not not happen again or you know what that means some computer operas at they're looking for work. Yes absolutely this letter. That editor said the fortunate message. Sage came about as the result of young computer operator getting carried away with the action on the track and i assure you it will not not happen again so yeah it will not happen again. I don't believe that bode too well for that young computer. Somebody got the boot. Yes somebody got a big boot boot and steve in this issue. Also we are recording this on tuesday. August the thirteenth and this is the twenty seventh anniversary of accident that took the life of clifford allison and in this issue the paper ran a poem that was written by a lisa alison clifford's widow just two days after that accident in michigan and i wanted to read because it is kind of powerful he stood very tall and brave beside the tallest of men but yet could unbel- himself to the smallest child. He touches the lives of every person he met for. He always carried a smile his his responsibilities were many and he fulfilled them in every way taking care of his family and working not day clifford racing he took seriously asli to be the best was his goal. He loved and enjoyed the people in the sport more than they will ever know. He knew what it was to struggle alone and he was not not afraid driving was his way to the top gaining more and more respect as he went on his way but finally what seemed to be a very short while clifford reached his rice and goal that god had planned while all the angels waved the checkered flag all with a smile so try not to be sad but proud of clifford for he would want it that way for he stands waiting with the lord in heaven's victory lane an example to all our lives a true champion in every way <music> out newspapers normally do not print poems and we both know that by in this case i remember saying this is something we after pret- right because it's something i think the fans should know and not only that i think it's something the fans would want and so we did it and i think that was was very appropriate and to come so close on the heels of that accident i think that's one of the reasons why it was so powerful and we've talked about it before on this podcast but losing clifford at michigan was the low point of what was such a tumultuous year for debut allison and the whole entire tire robert yates racing team so this is a very special poem for a very special person and he is still remembered to this day absolutely rusty wallace and you're listening to the scene bolt podcast steve on attuned to jordan from tennessee says this podcast is the best it's a living encyclopedia and a snapshot into the glory days of nascar steve wade and rick houston are masters at their lives craft and it's a joy to hear interviews with such celebrated icons of racing that throat us as finance over the past seventy years. Gotta give this a listen jordan. Thank you mommy masters at their lives crat where that's pretty doggone gone impressive right there buddy. If i've been mastered anything take and also brian greene on our tune says as a historian i love hearing steve wade's quote at the beginning of every podcast. I'm moved recently and now have a longer commute so i'm going back one interview interview at a time and love the stories and the reviews of the old issues of sane. Keep up the great work. I'm guessing since there are two thousand plus issues. I can it forward to nineteen hundred and forty plus more episodes. We'll try to measure yeah. We're gonna be here. We're not planning to go anywhere and i tell you one hundred and forty more episodes and on the sincere note brian thank you so levers five star rating and a written review on attuned and once we get to one hundred written reviews will be given away some more books yeah follow us on twitter at the same vault. Thank you to peter cellino and the detainment centaur media. Thank you to joey step for the musical score. Thank you to our patriotism. Pay pal supporters. Thank you brian killed and thank you steve or ric. It's <music> always a pleasure and thank you and you on top little round up. I was on top little round. Did you take josh tra- chamberlain's advice and charged uh-huh. I did straight down now. He'll actor seeing that <music> yeah.

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Dan Patrick Show - Hour 2 - Tracy Morgan (05-01-19)

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Dan Patrick Show - Hour 2 - Tracy Morgan (05-01-19)

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That's cubed, son. Now, an actor, and he was a lot of fun. I our free. She Morgan will join us at the tail end of the second hour and Bubba Watson will join us here in New York. That's what I love about this show, if I would have said, okay, OJ Jackson juniors going to be in Tracy Morgan's going to be an impulse and watch. It's going to be in. Yeah. Sounds like a typical show for this program. All right. Got a poll question. Mclovin update the poll results from the first hour if you had one haw fame vote who'd you put in Tiki barber or marshawn Lynch sixty four percent Tiki. Yeah. This came up, and I don't know if there's a groundswell for more, Sean Lynch, but diving into the numbers, I don't think you can put more Sean Lynch in and not put Tiki barber in because I think Tiki barber has better numbers than marshawn Lynch. I don't think it comes down to if marshawn Lynch one is Super Bowl than we would look at him differently. But I think he went on one he'd beat that up to. But would we look at him differently? I think at the quarterbacking position you look at them differently. But you know, running back, I don't know if that would matter Tiki barber didn't have a Super Bowl marshawn had one that he won and the other one that should have gotten the ball, and they would have won. The other one. But I don't know if that makes him a whole Famer. Yeah. Mclovin. Looking at the number. It doesn't seem like either going to get in because Edrich Jane's isn't. Well, no edge should get in before these guys. And I think he was a finalist. Yeah. He was a finalist last year didn't make the cut. These are players entering James says twelve thousand yards. Of the twelve in front of him. They've all made the hall of fame even a couple behind him, Marcus Allen, Franco, Harris Thurman Thomas OJ Simpson. Fred Taylor has more yards than these guys that we're talking about Stephen Jackson. You forget Stephen Jackson, and he ran hard. Yeah. Mclovin. Me and Seton in paulie hung out with Stephen Jackson in LA last year. That's a big do. Oh, he was such a nice guy on the Bill is good friend. And he's still he's anybody. He didn't he didn't run. Like, a nice guy. He t took no prisoners when he ran and he ran hard Corey Dillon's got more yards than these guys. Warrick Dunne does Ricky Ricki waters to me should be a whole Famer because I think he was the first running back that was that dual threat Roger Craig was in there. But Ricky waters was before all of these guys where I think he had over five hundred catches at ten thousand rushing yards a Jamal Lewis is in their Leshan McCoy Leshan. Mccoy's got ten thousand six hundred yards. He could end up with you know, maybe thirteen thousand mclovin. Yeah. He's thirty. Yeah. That's not old at all in today's game. Yeah. Pull Ricky waters in in like nine years combined fifteen thousand total yards from scrimmage, Ricky Watters. I always thought he was a hall of Famer and people forgot about him. Eddie Georgia's in there, then Tiki barber. Thomas Jones is in there as well. Marshawn Lynch is twenty ninth on the. All time rushing list. I don't think he's a hall of Famer if he is they're going to make him wait a long time. But I don't I don't know. He didn't he was very he created highlights. I don't know if he was a great running back, but he had highlights Kampong. Don't you think that's going to help marshawn Lynch? He's very recognizable. He's got a great nickname. He his his highlights a really fun to watch. He's very physical. That's the thing that really hurts. Tiki barber. He came in as a third down back. And then the second half crew was unreal. The last five years of Tiki Barbara's careers. Probably the best five of the best five years running back history. But they're not his highlights aren't special to watch. He just produced a lot of yardage, but he did it in New York. And you would think that that would help him. He didn't win a Super Bowl. But these numbers were played, you know, he played on the giants. And you would think you would get extra bonus points for that. Yes. Mclovin. I play devil's advocate on the running back ability. You catch a screen pass? You're standing there alone. The why would she which I don't understand this value of running back? Totally a lot of catches because they're not great catches just a little screen passes. But do they turn them into? I don't. Yeah. But that's because you see the screen passers. No one in front of them. They're all scheme. Like, I feel like that's why Ricky Watters is an him. Because I don't think NFL teams value that play as much if that's I mean, I don't remember exactly how we got more show folk do that like we praised Marshall Foch because he was that dual threat. It took them a little farther than those guys. He he might take it to the house where I don't think Iki and Ricky did I mean Faulk was fuck was really. Yeah. He was he was he did it better than anybody. I think that's why these guys aren't in. And by the way, they might get it. I mean, it's not over Tiki could get in reading up on walking Tomlinson are extreme with their catching ability. They had multiple seasons with eighty or more catches. They they not only ran for fifteen hundred they put up another eighty catches. That's yards from scrimmage with Marshall. Faulk is nuts. It a a four year stretch twenty two hundred twenty. Four hundred twenty two hundred twenty two hundred that he was the most productive player in the game for four straight years Marshall Faulk. All right. A coup- couple of headlines bucks beat the Celtics that's tied at a game apiece. Warriors beat the rockets up to oh more on that. James harden got hurt and Shelley Smith from ESPN had this back and forth. With James harden after the loss. Your vision on kissy nothing. We'll see. Early cassini. Got a good barely you. See? Relief from drops or anything. They put a couple of drops. Hey, walkout Lovie. Really couple drops to help you you know, number two little bit. But I mean, just all of the lines is blurry. They can't quote wardrobes. Right. Right. Dr too. Find out you hoop Chevy. All right. Thank you. Shelley smith. I love it. He's doctor ause they're chopping it up with James hard. I like Chris Paul's line that didn't he say the James look like thriller. Like he was in the thriller. Video got picked it reference. Yeah. It is. Here's Mike, Dan. Tony the rockets head coach on playing without James harden, anytime a superstar goes out. It's obviously more difficult, but for the low that James carries for you guys. What's it like during those minutes when he's out and you're not sure if he's going to come back? Well, it's stuff sledding. Love what we do. But at the same dumb. We did a good job of kind of writing the ship and give us a chance toward in just means. You don't Chris and Eric those guys gonna play a lot more minutes. But I thought we overcame that. Pretty well matter of fact. Here's Steve Kerr on if he's played with, you know, being poked in the eye before have you ever played after getting poked in the eye. No, okay. Never mind them. All right. Can't size to get poked in the eye? When you're on the bench. As usually just cheer on the guys on one time some teammate like elbow. Kind of hard. I think that Shelley Smith asking that question. Shelly dominating their crushing it. But Golden State Warriors up to oh on the rocket. And the officiating wasn't, you know, big deal. There was no controversy with that. Here's Steve Kerr on the officiating last night in light of what was happening in game. One about the conversation with the officiating. What do you think how the guys handled all those things tonight? I didn't even notice you -ficiating. I don't think anybody did. And I think that's the best compliment you can give them. They did a great job. And this game was just about basketball. Yeah. It was nice to see. I mean it was late at night watching. But it was still nice to see that the officiating wasn't. You know didn't factor in. Yes. Mclovin. I saw these positive quotes on the officiating. Is there any chance? He NBA asked the warriors. They something. Nice. Or is there something like or the maybe the Steve Kerr said, hey, guys. Let's let's chill. I don't know. It sounds like from a PR standpoint, you would want that where the players are not criticizing the officials or thinking they officials have a bias against them or for somebody else, you know, pulling. But couldn't you make the case that the controversy around the officials cause you to plan to tune into last night's game. Just a little more than you might have there's drama around that game. When I heard that Scott foster as roughing the game, I made sure I was home at tip off. But that game here's a troubling stat. If you're a rockets fan, this is the second time in postseason that they have made at least seventeen three pointers in lost that has happened. Only one other time in NBA history. So the rockets. This is the second time in the postseason this year happened against the jazz and happened last night. I some other headlines, Milwaukee Bucks figured it out. Chris Middleton played well, RIC freaked played well, and they beat the Celtics. But the Celtics got what they wanted. They took home court advantage there in Milwaukee. And now that series shifts to Boston CCC bath you seventeenth member. The three thousand strikeout club, the third left-hander, Steve Carlton and Randy Johnson. Now, I would have thought that Warren Spahn would have been one of those three thousand guys but second pitcher to reach three thousand while pitching for the Yankees. Phil Niekro did it in nineteen Eighty-four. Boy, you could make money off that trivia question. There are sixteen pitchers other pitchers thr- three thousand strikeouts. Fourteen or in the hall of fame, the exception Roger Clements, and Curt Schilling, and I think shilling deserves to be in. And I think Clemens perhaps will actually get in as well. Yes, mclovin. Warren Spahn got to twenty five thousand eight. Eighty three. Oh, by the way. He led the league in complete games like nine times like twenty-six complete games twenty five twenty two. It was a different game back that right? Like those guys. Oh, yeah. But you know, we didn't have the bullpen relief pitcher like that role. I I'm trying to think who was the first reliever who was the closer first closer in baseball history. I'm trying to think was it Elroy face. Does that sound right with the pirates? I think he he won like the he might have been a Cy Young winner. But I I remember him having a lot of wins as a relief pitcher didn't have thirteen wins as a relief pitcher to have those numbers. Mclovin. I just see him listed as Elroy face or VoIP faces the first closer in people's mind. Okay. Yeah. I don't I don't it on the stats in front, and that's probably in the sixties. Yeah. Fifties and sixties. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. And then I it felt like Tony LaRussa changed baseball by bringing the lefty to face a lefty, you know, slowed down the game. You know, it became interminable. When you're watching a game managed by Tony LaRussa Yanpu. I thought it was a big change in. The mid nineties. Remember when the Yankees, they had John wetland as closer and Ramiro Mendoza was the setup guy was no they had Mary on a Rivera. But yeah, setup guy. Okay. Wetland was the clothes, and then it became when Mariana takeovers Ramiro and does and they would get like six innings, then Ramiro Mendoza than the closer. And that became the nightly format where they didn't even care about getting seven eight innings, and when the Yankees were they were rolling back then and everyone picked it up. And you also, yeah, you've had it used to be your closer goose Gossage would go three innings now that that's when closers were men they didn't come in. And you you're you're facing one batter. You're facing. You're getting three outs. Goose Gossage would come in. And he'd throw throw cheese for three innings. Yeah. Mclovin. There's some sats here that fr John Franko is the first guy that he used in the ninth inning solely over fifty percent of the time, then Lee Smith, then Tony LaRussa made accurately over ninety percent of the time in the ninth any so it was LaRussa at it says LaRussa was the innovate. Of the whole thing. You just said you look at X numbers because he he wasn't a great starter. But he was a starter for quite some time. And then he just found his role and that back door slider. His that Kirk Gibson hit out. But he he was phenomenal. His his control was unbelievable that might be nine. Oh, it's a closer. But the role of the closer. And how dominating he was that year wasn't he sei-yung and MVP. I think in the same year does that sound right for Eck. I know he won the Cy Young as closer. I don't know. How many yet ninety two? Yeah. MVP and Cy Young. Yeah. He was he was I think he had his numbers were unbelievable. Just you know, hits two innings his strikeouts to walks. He was just unbelievable. And you know, you've had these guys who are you know, Rivera's so unbeatable, but he gave up that little blue pit to Luiz Gonzalez and they lost the World Series. Here's echoes unbelievable. And gave up the Homer to give in the World Series. Yes. Mclovin. That some people are saying that the way it's evolved as ruining baseball. Do you? Yes. Is that true? Yeah. You know, it's if I understand the strategy. I just think that if they wanted to speed up the game a little bit or maybe you don't speed it up as much as you're not slowing it down so much that you just have a normal pace. And that's where you're bringing. I don't I don't like you come in and get a warm-up pitch young. You just warmed up in the bullpen. Now. You come in. I'm going to give you what seven or eight pitches here. Just come in. Let's go. And if you come in you gotta face at least three batters. How about that? Yeah. From a throw that. I like that. All right. I'm just I'm just throwing it out there. I don't know if it's been discussed before Jeff in Texas joins us. Hi, Jeff what he had for me today. Hey, p five six one seventy. So it's one of the way in on the Ritchie waters, lack a hall of fame vote. I wanted to remind you guys somewhere around ninety five here that game where he didn't catch the pass over the middle because he was going to get blown up in the press conference. He has some famous line of for who for what? And I think that always rubs the city of Philadelphia the wrong way and hall of fame voters. I think hold that against them. All right. Well, thank you. Thank you. Jeff. I forgot all about that. But looking at the numbers there just thought Ricky Watters deserved more hall of fame consideration eight seven seven three DP show, Email address teepee, Dan, Patrick dot com. Got our poll question Paul a you have a stat of the day a stat of the day. I don't want the whole music. So I can never pull this off. Okay. All right. Okay. Since April thirteenth, Dan. Remember a guy named Chris Davis who oh for about a thousand the season and we had him on April fourteenth since Abe. April thirteenth, Chris Davis. A Baltimore is hitting three forty three with three home runs. His on base percentages three seventy eight and a slugging percentage is six eighty six since April thirteen Bryce Harper is hitting to await with two home runs. Ten RBI is on base percentage of three fifty six slugging percentage of four seventeen. Does. This thing work. Chris was this working yesterday? Chris Davis has twelve strikeout was this work in yesterday goes. I just got the updated sets when I when I told you about Chris Davis since he was on her show chesting one-two-three. Can you hear this? Can you hear this? Yeah. I thought I thought I brought that up. I know we just got the updated sets. Okay, could have said following up. What you said yesterday. Dan. I have some more stance. Go along with Chris Davis of Baltimore. That's what I mean. Because I was taking I was taking you know. I resent the price Harper inclusion today by totally juicy. That's why the the kicker of it. And this is all stemming from what happened the beginning of the show, you're getting pull high time. Now the dictatorship thing. I just said that I had this stat yesterday. You did. But the price Harper kicker, okay. All right, more like kings. More specific numbers to your point from yesterday. I don't want Todd back. I don't want to talk about how much gonna start up. Actually, I'll take the blame rather than how much could is batting average chains from yesterday to today. No, it didn't change that much but more so comparing to Harper directly because you wrote a Bryce Harper early. What if he started about the other Chris Davis the Oakland Oakland as oh? Yeah. Never mind NBA conference. Semifinals are underway. And you could watch all of it on TNT continuing tonight. It's the blazers and the nugget is Tracy Morgan still joining us at the end of the aren't typing told he left the Howard Stern show a few minutes ago and his racing. His way us racing to hear from him later this hour. I forgot what Tracy sounds like Todd. I like Rory Sparrow in New York. I'm a Nick fan. I like to New York Knicks go get pregnant with point. I'm the last oh g you better cut out acid. Stuff's there. And I me I'm Brian fellows. We'll take a break here. We'll come back. More phone calls. Eight seven seven three DP show. Maybe we'll get another update on Chris Davis of the Orioles and his batting averages. Well, it's a nineteen after the hour. This is the Dan Patrick show. It could be a little frustrating, especially if you're in a hurry running late. Find yourself at a railway crossing waiting for a train and the signals are going in the trains, not even there yet can feel a little bit tempted to try and sneak across the tracks. Well, don't ever trains are often going faster than you expect them to be and they can't stop even if the engineer hits the brakes right away can take a train over a mile to stop by that time. What used to be your car's just crush Huckabee metal? What used to be you? Well, better not to think about that. The point is you can't know how quickly the train will arrive the train can't stop even Vinci's u-. The result is disaster. The signals are on the train is on its way. 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Deep Forty-five is forty four years old in one thousand nine hundred forty four year old Nolan. Ryan was twelve and six with a two point nine one era in the American League. He led the majors in strikeouts per nine innings at age forty four. Do you think he's almost underrated because of his career win loss record? Yes. Yeah. I think he was just, you know, statistical freak considering what he did. And he he would pitch complete games. But you would he was tough to watch because he'd either strikeout-to-walk you and he'd give up a couple of hits. And inevitably you know, he'd lose one nothing or to one but back then you didn't wanna be outfielder or an infielder with Nolan Ryan on the mound because it was pretty boring game. Yeah. Fritzy and Ricky Henderson may I being an extra special day for him in one thousand nine hundred eighty one he got his nine hundred and thirty ninth stolen base to break. Lou Brock fulltime record exactly one year later may I ninety two is when he got his one thousand career stolen base something about may. I pretty well. Yeah. But nobody nobody's stolen basis aren't big anymore. I don't know who's got a lot of stolen basis. Now, you know guys wanted to thirty thirty thirty now that that's a big deal forty forty. But it doesn't feel like, and maybe they come back to it where the stolen base is more part of the game. I'd love to see more movement with the game. But it's basically striking out homering and homerun rates are up. I saw this story. Mclovin. Sent this to me at the home. Run rate is way up this year. And according to baseball reference, the league is averaging one point three three home runs per game. Which would be a record in that would be by far record. If the season ended today, the previous record set in two thousand seventeen at one point two six before that the record was one point one seven two thousand and that's probably you know, that's the apex of the steroid era. The Homer rate per game actually, well below one point zero zero recently as twenty four team now, they're they're saying. That the ball is different in June twenty seventeen on the ringer, Ben Lindberg and Mitchel Lichtman they concluded that baseball's used after the twenty fifteen all star game were different in terms of bounciness as well as the lower seem height and circumference shortly after that the website five thirty eight found that newer baseball's have a lower drag coefficient, that's air resistance the athlete last year in June. You had a doctor Meredith wills actually deconstructed baseball's and found that the seams on newer baseball's compared to those from two thousand fourteen or nine percent thicker, I don't know. What all that means. Wow. But apparently the baseball is being juiced here is that? What is that what this is coming down to with basic drag coefficient court? I skip that class. Then thankfully, did they drag it major league baseball have a statement on this today. I I don't have. That's the only information. I got did. They have a statement on that, mclovin. I didn't see one. Yes. See how come every time? There's an uptick in home runs, the balls have been changed. Well, the players were changed there for a while. This is always a thing that well, you know, the rap in the ball a little more tightly days. There's always something. How often does baseball tweak the the balls? I have no idea. I don't even think they tweak them. I don't think they admit that they tweak them. But the whole Cody bellinger's start is the reason why people are gonna wait a minute. What's going on here? It's not just him. Christian yelich has been unbelievable this year to start. Yeah. Bradier Anderson at like fifty two but Brady that that had nothing to do with baseball. Whoa. Whoa. That's gutsy. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But how do we know? And I'm not naming how do we know that these guys are doing something? Right. We don't know. But I do think that they the science behind the launch angle. The you know, there's data that backs up the launch angle with these players because vote Cody Bellinger could walk in and you go what does he do for living? You would not go Boyce's slugger in major league baseball. Now, Christian yelich the same way. They're not built the way they once were now, it's somebody doing something illegal. Yeah. I'm sure there's somebody in baseball who's doing it. Yeah. Mclovin faster pitching. Yes. That could be it. Yeah. Ballparks faster pitching and launch angle. Combine all those. And then maybe a spice up the baseball. Just a little bit ballparks aren't helping everyone because the friendly confines of the Philadelphia stadium and Bryce Harper. They should quickly make it smaller. What are the reasons he went? There was a fence. Yeah. So close be kind of have to make contact. You don't have little leaguers played a big league ballpark. And he does temp fences in. Bad boys. It just when he comes up. It's just the Bryce Harper shift. If it's the Phillies shifting the ballpark for him. Then a couple of days over to Home Depot and get some fencing material. Let's go just have it like, you know, two hundred and fifteen feet down the line something like that. He's do. He's gonna get hot. Yes. Yeah. Oh, he's hot. All he's the only guy. I know that blow dry his hair before the game. When he came out to argue that other day. Did you see his hair looked like a werewolf mean, he he it was all like blown back, and maybe he gets it styled between innings, but he came out and his hair looked perfect. Yeah. Mclovin. Have you made it, but that sells that's half. The reason the Phillies sign them people. Like that look warns Yvonne is the where wolf of London. It's all blown back. It's like a teen wolf what he looked like when he came out there. Are you come on is like wait, mama guava and argue balls in stronghold on house, my hair look now, it looks good. Looks good gamut lemon have had Cody Bellinger. That's a look like her. I image Cody Bellinger, his girlfriend. Dominates his Google image. They buy computer has the fritzy warning. So Cody bellinger's doing just fine. We do not have to worry about what's going on there. Oh, I I wasn't. I wasn't worried about Cody Bellinger, chicks dig the Longbow still they do. Let me see what else. Do we have blazers in the nuggets coming up tonight? We spent some time maybe too much time talking about marshawn Lynch for the hall of fame. Although I do love talking about those things. But I don't I don't know what it proves. We don't vote he's not eligible for a couple years. And all of a sudden, I see an article that says marshawn Lynch hall of fame, and I went I don't know. Here. I don't I I'm more apt to put more players in in all the fame than less. Yes. We are. So ahead of the curve in four years when I is doing marshawn Lynch versus Tiki barber for the hall of fame. We were there for planet that yeah. Yeah. We did. Yes. Mclovin. You baby could get an at hall of fame voting room. If you didn't declare you'd rather have your eyeballs gouge out room for twelve hours. I I mean, literally, I would rather have my eyeball. I'd rather have you know, James Harden's. I condition right now then to go into that hall of fame room. You don't wanna sit in argue marshawn Lynch with Peter King for four zero God sitting in there with the scribes. I'd like to watch it. That's what I thought would be really interesting if they allowed us into those rooms when you have selection Sunday with college basketball lettuce in lettuce just see a portion of it. Let us see just a portion of the hall of fame. The you got forty four forty five guys in there, and they're arguing there. Cases for certain players. I'd love to see that just a little bit. Yeah. Mclovin. They did show. Some of the cases for this year for the pro football hall of fame like they showed Gary Myers one. But they never show the arguing. Yes. That's what I want. Yeah. That's a good. They'd never shared the good stuff. They show the positive case for this guy. Yeah. I would love I would love to know the back and forth of what happens because it's basically it's a lawyer arguing his case in front of a jury, and then there's other lawyers that are going to argue the case back, and you get up there. And you're going to say, I think Jason Taylor deserves to be in the hall of fame, and then you present your evidence. And then and I have this letter from Tom Brady that talks about Jason Taylor bidding. Then you're like, oh, boy that's good evidence here, and then somebody will get up and refute some of the things that you say or maybe they don't I wonder if there's anybody that they go. Throw out a name. And then everybody just laughs and goes next like that's a foregone conclusion. There's nothing is there. A perfect hall of fame candidate has their when Tom Brady's up for the hall of fame. Is there any debate? Could you come up with something if you just wanted to play devil's advocate in the room? And I know I know I know we're going, but could you actually come up with something where you can make a case it not first ballot. I I guess, you know, the same thing with Bela check is that gonna come up. And is there going to be discussion about this? Can there be discussion about this? I don't I don't think so Ron boards. This is the patriots present right now. I'd like to see Tommy and do it by self. Oh, Tom Curran would be wonderful like eight jokes. Yes. He would current would be great. If he got in front of those guys. But I'm wondering if there is a perfect candidate without any. The baggage is always off the field. It feels like if that's gonna prevent somebody. It's off the field. Not on the field. When when you start to argue for somebody. And then you say, well, he's not a perfect candidate. Because you know, Lawrence Taylor wasn't a perfect candidate. But he was maybe the greatest defensive player of all time. Michael irvin. Didn't get in initially. But it was off the field that kept him. Even though that's not supposed to factor in in the voting process Yangpu either Jerry Rice or Joe Montana would be hard to argue against Montana four no Super Bowls. Yeah. Jerry Rice's stat numbers and before the passing area are so far ahead of anybody else. It's crazy. His receiving numbers. Yes. Mclovin. I like your idea of having to present bad players like Dan Pompei for Chicago. Here's Rex Grossman yet. I don't think it ever happens that way because it files, but that that would be a challenge. I just got these stats here. This is a baseball seasons with a thirty thirty guys. So thirty home runs thirty stolen bases. Mookie Betts and did it and Jose Ramirez last year. They did thirty thirty Ryan Braun in twenty twelve Mike trout twenty twelve Ryan Braun again in twenty eleven Jacoby member. Jacoby ellsbury the artist formerly known as he did thirty thirty back in twenty eleven Matt Kemp did it. Ian kinzler? Did it twice? Hanley Ramirez Grady Sizemore back in two and Grady Sizemore had an unbelievable start to his career in Cleveland. Jimmy Rollins did a David right now fun so Soriano. Did it a couple of times? But it's it's not very often when it happens. Yeah. Mclovin. Jacoby ellsbury on the hook for sixty four million dollars on the Yankees right now. Yup. That's that didn't turn out to be good investment there. Yeah. Does anyone want that contract do? Yeah. Yeah. That's under stress just turned to me and made a slight argument from X gross. And by the way, I think he needs to be reprimanded for. They probably do what are you doing? I just saying. Can you still saw seems weird that Rex Grossman did with thirteen and three as a starter through twenty three touchdowns and got the bear Super Bowl based off their defense. But it you almost don't remember that Super Bowl because they're so benign. Yeah. But David Woodley got the dolphins to a super bright. They're there. And then whenever this comes up. Somebody inevitably says in Trent Dilfer won a Super Bowl if Trent whenever it's like. Yeah. And anybody can win the Super Bowl Trent Dilfer did what maybe it's not that easy. But if Rex Grossman had beaten Peyton Manning in two thousand six Trent Dilfer will be off the hook for the worst quarterback to ever win a Super Bowl. No fence. Restaurants was not a good player. He had one decent season. But would you be okay? With being the worst quarterback to ever win a super, right? Like with Dan Marino. Now Now, Dan Marino's like going to trade in all of his stats to be. You know, if you said, hey, you can either be Dan Marino or you can be Trent Dilfer Rex Grossman brutal before and after the two thousand six I'm talking brutal. His his best season passing as a bear other than two thousand six was four touchdowns and seven picks. And then he had twenty three touchdowns and twenty picks in thirteen and three he was horrendous. Where would you rather have Rex Grossman or Daniel Jones? Just throw it out there. If it feels like everything comes back to Daniel Jones. Yes, fritzy, you're still always going to be introduced as a Super Bowl winning quarterback showing off your ring knows who say, yeah. But where did you rank among all simple bowl? Let your Super Bowl when he quarterback. Who cares? If your third or thirty best quarterback. We gotta take a break Tracy Morgan set to join us in studio. 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So my uncle fatty love, aka Michael he would throw on leftovers in one plot and caught a while style and that'd be getting journey. He's also call me young Skywalker in the kitchen. Young skywalker. Wait, how did you get the nickname young Skywalker in the kitchen there looked like Luke? Plus, I look like the first of all look like, Luke Skywalker. Okay. I'm built like wait a minute. If I close my good day. Yeah. A little bit my uncle he was like Bing kanobi, but we kicked with kids utensil. That's how we slide a slice up cucumbers who. With assistant Lukla shoe Baca. Here's my shoebox hairy. Wait a minute. You got put mobile. That's his cousin. Bacha? That's new old Lou Baca. Thanks. Chewing. Yeah. But everybody know chewy was grad chewers full of Cray. Fritzy does behind on his child support payments and everybody knows fritzy fritzy does a pretty good impersonation of you. I want you to great for. TC Rory Sparrow and Louis, I'm a New York knick fan, somebody will get pregnant at this point. Wow. What do you think? I buy fellows. You've got to tell that ostrich stuff staring at me you slow it down a little bit. Okay. You bet a bird. Burgess stop staring at me, Brian. I've talking so fast. You don't have to sell me a Cadillac. I don't talk fares. See I'm talking about pace the MIR you talk with this pace. I like the New York Knicks. I like. He can't. New York yorker from Brooklyn was you wanna lights went out in seventy five. I was in my you could tell a real house in my apartment was six years old. I was in my apartment building in Brooklyn, New York in the brain beach, Coney Island area, grandfather, my grandfather, come from synagogue, what it was do. That's how you could sell the New Yorker where was you when the lights went out and seventy five what would you sandwich running around here? I was in Ohio. Wow. Yeah. You know, what you at? Now you in Rome. I mean, Rome, New York, John, and is said New York City is Rome, baby. Will you ever leave here? Never how routes when you cut the tree from the roots will happen to the tree it done. They let me give the the whole the official introduction here. The cookbook is a tie into the TBS comedy the last. Oh, gee, starring Tracy Morgan and Tiffany haddish I like her. Yeah. She's she's good kit. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. She's good as Vernon. But she because he's Newt's all of this. But she's going to be good eighty soulful recipes with street cred, the last oh, gee airs Tuesdays at ten thirty eastern. That's right. You know street cred? You not may last night seeking street. Great. Okay. You know, what I made last tell you what I made last night day. Okay. I'll make pork and beans and hot dogs. Okay. Right after I finish watching true grit. That's what he called me Tracy Morgan, aka rooster cogburn. You got a lot of nicknames who she? Who? Hey K, Ron Jeremy June young, really. Wow. Okay. Well, you the funniest guy in your neighborhood grownup. Absolutely. In New York, we not talking about it, and they would transcend transcendent. Became New York. Who's funnier than you? What? Yeah. What show mouth? Is there? Anybody that you go who boy Richard Roundtree compete me to? No, no, no, that's shaft. He wasn't funny. Okay. Well, right on. I don't know if you asked any woman, avocado where they say he funniest, but is there a comedian that you went, you know, he's got some skills, but he's not with us anymore. Richard practice. That's the only guy that compares these the king. We're all just as Princess. He did you ever meet Richard pry? Yes, a metal when I was on a mountain on his show and me Martin went to the comedy store, and he was in the wheelchair at that point. And he signed a piece of paper for me on forget how and it's Richard pry, I couldn't you could meet his ledger at that point. But I say that piece of paper for twelve years, then all of a smaller ones. But I got it in my head, though, got it how and look I got the peop- the paper and got it on my kept him wallet. I have a pitch of nipsy Russell in my wallet. And Lucille ball and old to Jackie Gleason, keep Jackie Gleason with me. He made me wanna do comedy Jackie Gleason. Yeah. Jackie. If you watched the first year of. The last so g episode nine men Tiffany has on the couch talking. And I look at baby you're the greatest does. Jackie Jackie Gleason. Yeah. I think Lucille ball's underrated up. No, no, no, no, she's not. She taught me physical. She put hope she had a hell of a mouth full of candy in their mouth. So that was the physical and a problem. I think some time with the stand up comedy today as a lot of people afraid to take the pine the face. I'm old school comedy. I'd do anything for a laugh. I'm old school. You would take a punt. When's the last time you took a pie in the face last night? My wife. Oh god. Every time you come on your you get in trouble with your wife. My gel. Me. I'm no different than the other guy in Barry. What what is bothering you? Sports wise now like your Knicks. Are you okay with? When you make a boat train like KP in junior and all of them. Yeah. And you free up seventy five of salary cap. That means the brings a common I just have to tell Nick Nick fan be patient. They've been patient along. I know, but you everything when it's ready we sell no one before its time us, these could you need the on ice. You don't drink us. That was what was. Everybody be patient. I love Fidel Dolan is lane. It back like do they job? Now. What if Kevin Durant came to? You got our cabinets common copy is coming an RA spoke to government about the ball dropping. So we gins I on don't worry about it you as the government somebody got paid. But if Kevin Durant said, hey, sell me on the Knicks. This is this is Rome. Okay. This is Rome. You win a ring here. Wall Street is right down a block Gavin wintering. Here you could sell all the big Mexican Cadillacs. You want to that this biggest market in the world. The Knicks could be last place. We still make the most money NBA this New York City baby grom unison of the universe. What kind of game? Do you? Get mas. I was appointed. God I had sham. God down. You were you were God sham. God before got him cross stuff and crisscross cost out. Not let me cross you up. I'll cross right up my data sham sham. God. Gotcha. Gotcha. Great daughter flip. Should reach if you want to. But could you play? Could you shoot you won't be post up? I was young post about Kaposi up, and I was shoot. Yeah. Twenty four feet shoop, and I could defend against a pick and roll not making the league if you can't defend against the pick and roll your old school school. Yes. Still wear. Chuck taylors. Oh, gene. Well, you don't have Chuck Taylor's on right now. That's good walk in. Oh, I'm A. I'm going to quote, a assuring them up. I still you. 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Breaking Down 'Avengers: Endgame' | The Watch

The Watch

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Breaking Down 'Avengers: Endgame' | The Watch

"Today's episode of the watch is brought to you by just cracking egg. You wanna talk about great production value? How about a legit hot fluffy breakfast scramble, that's packed with all your favorite ingredients. It's called just cracking egg. And all you have to do is at a fresh egg over there hearty ingredients than stir microwave and enjoy any day of the week. It takes less than two minutes to make find all seven varieties of just cracking egg in the egg. I'll. Sports, definitely. Walk low. Welcome to the watch. My name is Chris Ryan, I'm editor at the rigor dot com. And joining me in the studio he survived the staff, it's a degree while twice in one week had to come in. I got a big steaming Cup of Pym particles. To make up for is that Columbine. Did they have that on Monday? I was my alter ego was drowsy, man. That's good. But superhero name that's a good. That's good stuff. You should write for. Seth Meyers dad joke. But I'm here now. And I wanna talk about this movie that I went to see a vendors endgame on track to be one of the most successful films of all time deserved one point six Bill. Thank global just feeling great for my man. Bob eiger. If you wanna talk about like the business side of it. I think you should listen to the big picture. I guess did on the big pick this week. I think you should listen to the big picture every week. Always all the all the time. Sean fantasy does such a great job of that podcast. He talked a little bit about he talked a lot about it vendors and game. And then see you we're going to talk a little bit about this as a as a storytelling achievement. And also we're going to go through a bunch of the characters in this in this movie. We're also just going to talk about the movie where else is going to talk about we so asked Andy do you want some structure to this podcast? And he's like, I think that'd be. Yeah. And then I did the structure, and he was like, but I also just want to go off time Hoke two thousand twelve go ahead. Smart holck. I'm so excited talking about this movie a couple of things just going into it, Chris, you know, this, you know, my journey this week. You know, my struggle. You know, my truth. I just in case, I sometimes think it's important to orient our listeners to our relative ages in the world and not age is not, you know, it's just a number ain't nothing. But a number has our departed Queen eleo once that. Yeah. But I learned something about myself on Tuesday night. I thought I was oh, boy how many bathroom breaks. I'm I gonna need years old as it turns out. No, I am. Oh god. I'm going to fall asleep years old in a movie, I truly enjoy this is also because it's only twenty four hours removed from your boy enjoying the winds of southern Italy. Right. Chris, and I have had quite an ambitious we especially during playoff time a little bit of skit on that we little skin contact. We had a nice dinner with our our wives on Monday night. And then Tuesday ahead of complete by myself meeting at the vista theatre and powered through so congratulations to me, the real superhero. He did two things into nights. It took me a data recover. But here I am. I am so excited to talk about this movie. There are a lot of different ways into it. And it's just it's fascinating. Because first of all it was super fun. I had a great time. I really liked it. Just purely entertainment to I remain. Totally flabbergasted impressed by. By the structure, by the way, they piece this together. The choices they made him by mean, everyone involved from Kevin Feigen does who I don't even know just trying out his name clearly involved in every aspect of these movies to the result. Brothers who directed them, and Markus and mcfeely the screenwriters there is so much craft and construction involved in in undertaking like this, and they pulled it off and under under incredibly it. Sounds like stressful circumstances, I mean, while by all accounts, it's a lovely place to work and everything I just mean, they essentially shot endgame Vinnie any Infinity were back to back while also Black Panther, and captain marvel and all these other movies were in production as well. And then the last piece of it that we're gonna talk about is. I just think this is what it is. Now, you know, like Dettori about it in the sort of meta slash business slash cultural way that we like to approach things let's say the Tari came, but they were chill. I wanted to ask what is popular entertainment. I mean, it is obviously this this is so they come in their giant beetles spatial. Yeah. Land on Los Angeles. And they say like, what do, you know about who premium content about these guys, I'm sort of staggered and dazzled by it? It was quite an achievement. So I wanted to begin with a question for you just to get us into it. And we'll say it again, we're going to spoil it. I imagine if you are eagerly awaiting a podcast about a global phenomenon it is doing nine days after the movie premieres. Then you're okay with a spoiling it. But my question for you, Chris just as we get into it. I know you have given us some structure you've given us some characters to run through the night. It's to do it. But my question for you is what was the biggest flex here. Now, I have finalists you could add to this. If you like here might hear my candidates for biggest flex in endgame number one, the screenwriters Markus and mcfeely for making Thor the dark world cannot import. This was the first movie they worked on as writers, it is generally regarded as the worst marvel films. Do you think that we're ever going to be in a world where we're doing like coffee table books about Thor dark world as like the misunderstood Camino esque masterpiece of the MC you it's like Alan Taylor religious? Apparently, he saw something in the negative space of as guard that has it turns out the real dark elves with friends we made along the way Mallory Ruben likes this move. I know she does that is that is her wildest take. That was incredible to me that when I when I found out because again, I thank you to everyone. Thank you to Twitter. Thank you to the universe. I was not spoiled at all. Oh, I did not really know that they would be look at Twitter. I glanced. I did not know that they would be dancing the light fantastic through their own move. Oh, that's great stuff. So that was really fun to realize. But I definitely you know, if if I had a wide open map of all the movies to revisit sore to to not in my top twenty. So that was amazing second candidate for flex their five. We just you know, this isn't gonna take all our the Russo brothers for well crafting a movie in which the characters went to movies that they didn't direct making sure to wedge in a callback to captain America winter soldiers icon, elevator fight. Yeah. Even though it had no purpose in, and you know, who else got to flex in that fray grill man, who's like the detaining might shape tone. The muscle tone is still there for the elevator by amazing of all the people they brought back to forty five and just frozen ties. But I'm saying that's what that's what I really want for myself is like just pick a cool age like that. And then never get old. After like Grillo will never get older than this. Do you understand what I'm saying? Have we not picked yet? Because I think we may have made a mistake. That's the time stone dog right there got it. Because he picked it up and crushed it on an arm day. I don't know if people understand this. But one of the biggest CGI charge offs in movies. Now is they're actors whose entire performances have little CGI things on their face. So they look younger. Yeah. I'm not going to name them. I will say that. That was why negotiations broke down for me to return to talk the thrones this year because that was not looking for an actor that they do that too often it rhymes with Beykal bug Lous. Well, no in this one. They literally turned him in to someone else. The China's syndrome. Michael douglas. Yeah. Yeah. No. I was talking about an actor his name rhymes with John flus. You know, we're not naming names here. My point is grill does not need this technology. The future is Grillo. Number three for best flex in the movie, Robert Downey junior for single handedly pushing pushing the the the rock up the mountain the boulder up the mountain to make his Robert Evans impression cannon. I thought that was very impressive. Yes. The scenery comes back from space, and I guess is drunk. No, he's he's he's malnourished oxygen. Yeah. It's interesting that that's the one time they've been like these guys do need to eat, by the way. Also, this was the one time where they were like her eight what do you what do you want to do? What do you wanna do Downey? Rob, Tony, whatever we call you. Now, like we'll clear out the lane. This is your movie, and by the way, he's been in what like nine marvel movies was the and we've joked and also joked with admiration that in many of them, the majority of his screen time was just him in a little helmet Cam shot that he clearly filmed like in his backyard or wearing the weird tech flea stuff that clearly he has like specially made for him by like Tabet in tech fleece, listens and artisan. I have a whole bit. I would like to do when I talk about their alter ego clothes because they let's do that in Wilde like I wanna talk to Mackie's beard guy. Anthony, Mackie, your a fine, and brilliant. I'd say you were about to be gifted the shield of captain America. You should not have gotten your face situation done in Orlando, circuit two thousand two. Do you understand what I'm saying? I know he looks like Ricky Watters. He looks like Ricky waters throughout space time. Yeah. So okay. Kevin fi the mastermind the executive producer the president of marvel studios for making three hour movie. That features in its cast, Robert Redford, Michael Douglas, Michelle Pfeiffer, Rene Russo until the Swinton and collectively they have fourteen lines in eleven of Mathilde fucking Swinton's on a rooftop in two thousand twelve by into the bathroom. Don't you didn't. I was like I got it. You need this show the Swinton on a rooftop in New York City in two thousand twelve that would be my end game. Is that your fifth that no there's one more? Okay. Natalie port buck off I was going to do this to Queen. Yeah. Natalie Portman for making us wonder was it live or was it Memorex? I can't decide which version of her reality stone is a bigger flex is it that they needed her? So Bradley Cooper's beloved CGI raccoon could encourage stick her with a space syringe to dry out a red even show did that they did not just as the way running with it. So did she show up for that way? Together. Here's my vision of what what is it better? We just tell tell me this is it what's the win for her. Is it a win that they had to use old footage? Or is it a win that? She's like, oh, come to Atlanta for no reason. Here's what I think have. Okay. I think they shot her scene like in Burbank. Okay. You know? And I think basically what happened was there is another movie directed by Mike. Oh man in which Natalie Portman arrives with four guys wearing hockey masks carrying automatic weapons. Right. Like roll up on Disney. She gets out of the back of an armored truck walks through a shot, and then goes up to Bob, I ends like any hands her Amy right now, he answer the bitcoin stone it just click, and he called ether. It's it's it's the real crypto-currency. Yeah. Incredible see wins. She wins. I mean, I would say winner Natalie Portman, I think Russo has more lines than anyone from guardians. That's true Russo has a lot of lines Russo. It's just also great because that was basically saying Rene, we digital ready. We enjoyed your work in Bellevue buzzsaw night. Crawler your great just come hug fat Thor and tell him you love him, even though you're going to die today because you're a witch. Yeah. Sure. Terrific as we pivot to the rest of our do you have a winter from that? You think port Portman. Okay. So as we pivot to the rest of our conversation. I want to say one word Cooper is the overall winner of the MC you I think so too. I think by simple proxy of. The his schedule is not like he can just come in. And be like, here's like four days worth of lines. You make the raccoon do whatever. And then everything else is like all we wanted to do this. But we couldn't get Chris Pratt scheduled allied up. You know, what I mean, yet Cooper is like in the raccoon is in so many scenes, they're Akhoon is in so many scenes, it's not just that. It's one of the best performances across these movies. You know, I think the thing sometimes we sometimes we sometimes everyone makes fun of Bradley Cooper's for actors who like really overly commit to the bit. We are. We are the lucky ones. Yeah. That he does it because that performance does not need to be that good. It doesn't it's actors in these movies who would disagree with his level of commitment. And we're going to list them. It's also kinda like the Radiohead album amnesiac where I'm like. Yeah. Okay. This is a choice. Yeah. And then like three years later, I'm like I love him. So so so into rocket which movie is his pyramids. Is it this one? I think it was actually the last it was Infinity. It was when you realize if you put the talking record with all the other characters were all the other characters are better. Yeah. Okay. I just want to say as we pivot now, there's one word that is not going to be said on this podcast, at least for me in that word is logic. Oh, yeah. I don't think we could do that. I DJ f I truly don't you don't care about whether or not like going back in time affects the future who cares for. If guys we collectively and culturally use the phrase comic book movie as a priority of this is this is a comic book it works by comic book rules comic book logic. And it's fine. By the way, proud boys. Where are you out there on the internet talking about why Steve Rogers, not only know how to lift Thors hammer? Butt wielded with the expertise of an ageless nurse. Got like are you trained for sixties? You know what I'm saying? This is your issue. It's not an issue. I'm just saying like let them let them do it. Let them work. So is that like an all right thing that are you shouldn't be able to stab. It's a it's like a gamer gate dudes on the internet dating. Oh, yeah. I know I Di she's a Mary sushi learned how to fight in the, you know, in time for this battle. Let me tell you something as someone who spends so much tattoo game with runs that is not the case. I know. All right. So you want to do character by character? Because I also have a secret. Hurry start kill list characters. I f. That's what I was thinking. We could do. I mean, if you wanted to talk a little bit more about it as in general. I mean, I was going to ask you moving. You haven't even said that. You've been on a roll. This is like the the counter of of your Monday show. I told you I would come in your spider webs on your eyes on Monday. It wasn't like here's the thing time. There was a moment on Monday show that expertly edited out where my soul stone exited. My face made talk you were brain dead power down. There was no electricity going through your mind. Now, I like the movie very much I would say that like all marvel movies. I felt it start to fade as soon as I was over like even when you were like, so I saw Sunday or Saturday rather ingredients all Tuesday. And even when you're like I'm going to see it Tuesday. I was watching a basketball game thinking, oh, and he's probably watching the movie right now. And I was like what happened in this movie? So that's the only thing I think that there is something really interesting going on right now, you brought up thrones. I think in some ways thrones is a little bit of a victim of its own me MRT. You know, I think that there's been so much hype around it, and there's so many catch phrases and tropes and ways in which we talk about like who'll sit on the throne bomb on like who's the principal promise? And like all those things are very relevant to the story. But I think it's almost like now affecting how we watched the show itself on the other hand, I think Morville is actually a beneficiary of its cultural dominance where I think this movie could have been like twenty five percent worse. And I think people would have really loved it. Yes. Now, a waving the film. You did it's it's better than it has to be it almost needed to be good. It was almost a requirement that like we were gonna like it, you know. And I think that they had a couple of character beats that we're going to guarantee that it was good. I think that the ending did that. But in some ways like marvel success has created this air of quality that I don't think it always the MC. You has always had. No, the turn to the end. I mean, there's so the reason I mean, maybe this is true of all films little alone film franchises. It. Ultimately, always comes down to hiring the right people to stroke of luck. Sometimes the person you think you're gonna hire is available or whatever you end up with someone else. It all works out. Hiring the Russo brothers, captain America too. Thought of as a risk at the time for sure hiring down. He was at risk. Actually, if you go all the way back. What's truly amazing? And I think this is really how empires are shaped. Whether they are, you know, galactic literal or otherwise is. You gotta finish strong, and the twenty two movie story that has become part of the narrative has a lot of weak links in the chain not just weak links in the chain. It was not this it really only became this or started to become this with winter soldier. The Russo brothers and Marcus mcfeely found something and followed it through to the end, then the branches to do the thing that you went to the bathroom for where Ruffalo until this win. I yet. Well, yeah, it's then they found a couple other people who also get it and James Gunn, you cannot be here without what he did. And I think what TD also an Kugler. I think those are the people who collectively understood the promise the fund the spectacle of the grandeur the size and the emotional weight to make this what it is. And I will say that this has been a movie probably it's obviously ten years in twenty some movies in the making and even the. Even different than Infinity war. I would say this movie endgame had moments that I thought were like almost contractually like Evans in Downey were like, I'll do this. But then on the last one we get to do x y and z also weeded through therapy. We get to be skinny and pretend to Robert Evans, we get to blue and Big Sur with her family with pepper and the and the kid and decide like it's actually like I'd rather protect my family than the world all the stuff that I thought was like pretty adult. This is what I was kind of saying this to Sean at Amanda Monday that like this is what happens when you can raise a generation of fans is that you can prepare them for these more, adult ideas. Oh, absolutely. And I mean, let alone the fact, and and Sean and Mallory talked about this really well in the big picture, it is we're glossing over the fact that this is going to be top five highest grossing film of all time may be maybe more you needed to see at least ten to fifteen other movies before you can see this movie would not make any sense. That that sudden not just confidence in serialized, storytelling. But assumption of serialized storytelling is a radical shift from where anything was in the past in terms of mainstream storytelling, and you could say it's also the end of a category telling in some ways, I I I'm not obviously not sure about that. But so many of these characters are going to Disney blues. And I think that this time around based on certain things that I grew and Feige you're saying they're really serious about this. They're really this isn't like, yeah, we have like four Netflix shows, and we're gonna try Jessica Jones out on that or agents of shield, but we're gonna mmediately like stop the the idea that agents of shield is somehow connective tissue to the vendors these they're really serious about doing six episode major vendor. Storyline series, basically. And I don't know whether or not like, I do think when you look at like the slate that they have and the exhaustion collectively on the part of the people who have been. Making these movies for the last ten years. They're they're going to there's going to be a powering down and a changing of how they deliver this stuff a little bit. It's a it'll be longtime before something like this happens again is what I mean. I think it's I think it's safe to say this this is this generation Star Wars ever keeps saying what's the what's going to be like Star Wars again is Star Wars going to be Star Wars again. No, it was this. This was it. I mean, the the reaction that people had in theater on a Tuesday night in a packed theater. The reaction. I'm hearing from people who saw it at normal moviegoing times that they heard in the theater the way people have all ages receive these movies the way people are marking their own maturation with these movies and going multiple times, which is always sign of like actual an actual blockbuster is when you see people who are like I've already seen it two or three times, and this might be giving too much credit to to fight. But I think that he's earned. He's frankly has earned it. If this is our Star Wars, they are they may be smart. They may be a head of the curve they may be shifting to actual twenty nineteen Star Wars now and what I mean. Gene is we're seeing in these big movies. And then we're seeing the Mandal orient show that it that Star Wars this idea of Star Wars as a once a year every three years every ten years mega events. No longer seems to be fully instead of the culture what Star Wars needs to be both from brand perspective and accompanied perspective shareholders. But also for the way, people consume stories is a constant twenty four seven three sixty five thing with TV series, and interlocking things it's probably smart to diversify the portfolio to go from a six hundred million dollar movie that makes two billion dollars. Every however many years to as you were saying, these a more constant stream of content. I does a lot more like comic books and a lot more TV. So I do think it is the end of an era in terms of the way they're going to tell these stories for good or for ill. We're gonna do some vendors character studies. Okay. We're just going to talk about both the character and the actor. I got a list here. Some people are onscreen talent. Yeah. Some people are behind seeing. Can't wait. I I have my own list, by the way in the headline is people. We don't actually care about. We'll see how I like the fact that we're doing this front of the book magazine like Charles. Yeah. I often have felt pressured to talk about this person over the last few years. Yeah. I feel like it's almost like a great jazz. It's like when the solo hits me, I'm ready to talk about it and ready to play it. But not always you know, what I mean. And sometimes I might want to turn my back on the audience and just blow a little you know, you have. So will you gotta read the room? Let's talk about Hawkeye. Let's talk about. Jeremy Renner back his Hawkeye after not appearing in Infinity ward rate, and he essentially has been each yield del Toro's Sicario character arc. He does. It's it's one of the more like the. It is honestly funny. And so weird is that the idea of black widow sacrificing yourself for him. So that he can get his family back. Yeah. And he's straight up is just like I've done some really Dr shit, please don't die at my expense. Yes. And then like this idea that he goes back to Cartolini and she's like which do during the during the snap. He's like, well, I I'd like to show you a movie called, Dave the dot. Because I've been on a multi year multinational murder spring. I it's like the unlike anything in anything like for some reason him doing this is like more jarring than fantas-. I another thing Hon member the bone arrows, I do swords now. I sure do I got people I have a mohawk and an arm sleeve of TAT's ya at I just show up in Tokyo, a murderer yakuza when his cell phone rang with a helpful photo. Was there a moment? He was like boy because know, sometimes if like you're at a little too late. I other calls and you're like, how am I in? This. You got to get the story straight Siri cleanup, DNA evidence seamlessly. Couple of things one of the things that I admire most about the way they put these last two vendors movies together is that the Russo brothers and Marcus mcfeely look at what was given to them across the other movies. And I think they use people plotlines, emotional ether. Well, incorrectly starting the movie like like, what just we did with a Hawkeye character Altron with this secret family in Kansas was so odd and jarring and not my favorite part. Is that canonical to know? Yeah. But they took they they saw that. And it was actually a brilliant way to begin this movie with this sort of the leftovers thing. And you'd if we shot, and it was really, you know, then the traffic song drops. Yeah. It was really well done. It surprising for movie of the scale Hawkeye in the comic books. One of my favorite care. Yes. Particularly fraction of that fraction version but across the board always kind of an interesting. Ng character to me, it is canon that at one point he stops being Hawkeye and becomes Ronin and wears a mask and has swords now, I guess that's an easy transition. But when when black widows like the federalize discovered like a moving a shipping container full of uncertainty yet. Yeah. I would say the vis movies grasp on what PG thirteen means. Or should mean? Surprise me at time. Yes. A lot of ask talk. Yeah. Lot of shit's. Yeah. Lot of beheadings with purple blood good our Jason Gallagher because he and I often argue about, you know, I'll be like, oh, I didn't like this movie. And he's like, well it was for some of my son's age. Well, that's not my problem. Yeah. And I asked him I was Chris. Chris strikes again. That's great. I gave my daughter's assigned laser disc day of the cell Dotto one day one day my down before your daughter, Capers samurais. So I did you like fist this will pay off. No. And he was just I was like, do you take your kid to engage and he's like, I don't think he's ready. Yeah. I I mean, I I didn't think some of that stuff was necessary considering it worked well emotionally in. You know, it was that stuff didn't make it skew older. I guess that stuff is more like teenage actually. But anyway, I have this long preamble to say, I'm sorry, despite all best efforts MC, Hawkeye sucks. Hawkeye sucks and Renner whom we adore. I would there's no one who's aesthetic whose devotion to the project. Would I rather have working on my structure is super bad in this role in a really weird way and the on a guy create an open floor plan. Yeah. Put in some modern appliances. And maybe have an incredible subway. Tile back splash. He's your guy. But if you want somebody to be the driving force of a film emotion when motion crux of outside of captain the base Thrum. Yeah. Will apparently wrong which is shocking because I don't know that any movie stars been more underutilized than him in the last ten years when you consider like he comes out of away with her locker the town in ten and then this kind of series of weird misteps goes protocol born and twelve which we loved, but he was probably the third best thing in is fourth. Maybe if you consider Rachel vice and Oscar Isaac ahead of him. I do and ever Norton, obviously, as you know that guys in Cooperstown. That movie the immigrant. He was good American hustle. He was fine. He's only in it for a little bit. And then he kind of wastes away in these movies. He wastes away in a vendors and Altron and Hansel and gretel, and then he's in civil war, and he's kind of has a comeback with a rival in wind river. But since then he's done the house tag endgame. Eggs going to be an spawn I dunno apparently is going to keep playing Hawkeye on Disney. Plus, the only moment of his that worked for me is when he turned to Natasha and gave her a crazy s smirk while running over the cliff to his death. That was that was like the town. Yeah. Renner? I mean, look there's there's two things in this could be a whole separate. He was like Finally I can end by dark pain. Yeah. Look there's there's two to doing one good thing. There's two conversations here. One is character actors who chased that leading Jeter and get lost in CGI and blockbuster stuff. To are. They're actors whose skill sets whose method who's strategies performance don't work on front of green in front of green screens in Atlanta. It just it doesn't work. And unfortunately, he's one of them. And that was frustrating. The weakest parts of this movie for me where the moments when I thought the architecture was clever, but it relied on using everyone using everything they had using nose detail, directing and screenwriting Athey will. But the particular bits weren't up to the challenge even of the small connective tissue. They were asked to do. Right. And if we're speaking about actors who don't seem to be able to bring it in front of green screens in Atlanta. It was on some level affirming to see that even the greats. Even the Russo brothers in Markus and mcfeely also don't know what the fuck to do with captain marvel. Yeah. I mean, you wanna talk about this was a tough list your cat tomorrow. Another tough look for Oscar winner. Okay. So a couple of caveats she shot this before captain marvel. I don't think that there seems to be quite yet at understanding of what to do with this character because they've they've typically introduced these people and hedge their bets. Yes, they've gone all in. Yes. These things get huge promotional pushes. But I think if guardians had somehow fallen flat. There was a plan b I think if doctor strange completely missed there was a plan B Lee didn't really seem to have a plan b with captain marvel. Like, Dave really said she's kind of the figurehead of the next of like the next phase of all this way on front of their skis on this. Because what you're absolutely right about plan B's like, for example, they figured out pretty quickly that Hoke is in a movie hulk in other movies can be great. Well, didn't isn't it. Also, like, they can't do hulk as a standalone movie because of some rights issue. No, they can't or they can't get the the the Norton hulk is canon in this in the right? It's just. Recast that is this characters life or whatever. That's all connected. You know, they decide who works best in. What what if Ed content has been in the Atlanta in the end the funeral? Can you imagine? So it's weird. Yeah. All the caveats are worth saying, she this was the first time she'd ever played the part, they did this. I think before they certainly I mean, I'm just gonna make I was going to say before they had finished script for her own movie. I would add the caveat. I don't think they ever documents as living documents. But the performance is so strange and self-aware in wooden, and then the character is just a militant. So they kind of used her as a missile, which was probably the best use, frankly. But there is no spark there is no life. There's no anything in this character, which is good. I mean when she when she shows up she saves down. It's not like she's got like an IV bag with her. She just somehow saves Downey out in space in the beginning. When she shows up later, she. She is like you said he'd seeking missile and just destroys a bunch of spaceships, which ultimately doesn't matter. But like she needs to it. It's like completely turns the tide of that battle. And I don't want to I want to say, and I I don't think I said enough of this when we were reviewing critically her own movie for the movies made like a billion dollars. It's a success. So you don't need me saying I didn't like it to justify. But that's exactly what I was talking about in the beginning where I was like the the success of the movie should not may known in the importance of her character and her role in this should not be diminished. Right. It should also be better. And that's a little worrisome, especially for the future, which we haven't even pivoted to yet. If she's the Lynch pin up, she's basically doing Jeff bridges from Starman Dave made her even though she's supposed to be this focal point because she is like half alien because she doesn't remember anything because. In all these things. It's like, and I also don't really know that her power. So that so to speak are a really understandable. Yeah. It's a problem for them going for. Yeah. We'll we'll talk more about what's going to happen going forward. We blew through some of these talk more people. I wanted to just say that in many ways, I think Rudd is the new downy boy read was greatness movie so road. Now, they used him really wire man in this move in these movies has always been there to be this sarcastic cynical audience avatar for like, I can't believe we're putting on capes and shit. And if I am putting on an iron suit. That's really cool. Let's listen to metal and do it. Now Rudd is basically just like 'em, ENZA thief, and he's like a one liner machine. But they've really smartly positioned him as the guy who's like water you guys talking about and it really really the, storytelling wise. Yeah. So the common person. But also, it's just a nice energy. Like, I mean, that's the other thing. Like ultimately at the end of the day. You look at this. Hanging with Hemsworth hanging with Rudd hanging with Coopers raccoon voice. I mean, these are characters and performances that are just deeply pleasurable daddy around is it more dorito than protein bar in terms of lasting power shirt. Torito's or mazing who else he got that was not sponsored content. But I would love it to be. I've got black widow AK the Melissa often more of the ventures. There's a moment I think it's at the end of remember which vendors movie, but at the end of one of the movies when there are no more avengers. And you see like your the new avengers right in its it's cap, and it's black widow and scarlet witch and envision in warranty and voltron, and guess what? That avengers team sucks because it's super boring, and it's really good that they've pivoted away from it in a hurry. And I don't know what it means going forward. Because look, I I really liked Scarlett Johansson, I like what she's done in some of these movies. He's they've done a pretty good job with the central problem with the vendors in the comics, which is when you go charging at the God of death. And you have a living space battery and the hulk a Russian assassin with a pistol doesn't make that much sense. But it's pretty brave averted to try will they kind of made her the Nick fury in this. And and then they killed her. And the sacrifice is what it is. But in general, I would look at her entire six seven movie arc as a missed opportunity because she doesn't do anything. And she's not that interesting. And they didn't even let the Bruce banner. Romance thing cook, you know, which by the way is not exactly flying past Bechtel test. If I'm like, you know, what made her more interesting boyfriend bunch smile morning show friend. I mean, look, I apologize for even suggesting that, but it's it was amiss. And so the sacrifice was I mean, I know she's making a prequel movie for twenty five million bucks. But like, let's yeah. What if it's the the black widow supremacy? Great, and it makes the spy movies yet have been. Yeah. Okay. Studios. I thought it was pretty cool. How they've killed this guy like four times two movies. It's like a comic book. It's, but I I actually think when I first started when he first starts appearing in these movies. And when he first starts, you know, he's obviously in I think the tag of one race and for for it was Berlin. Yeah. And he pops up a couple of times after that before we get to Infinity or using one of the guardians a little skeptical about it. You know what I mean? I was just kind of like, I don't really get it. I know that there's like a mythology behind him being in love with death. And all this stuff. Did that really ever come across now? I mean, he's just basically like they made him a climate warrior. Yeah. I base. He basically is like I think that if every there was just half of you. You guys would all be happy. He's the Bill mckibben of outerspace. That's right. Way better than it had any business being a good cylinder. Yeah. Also. But also was like I thought they did a really good job being like, he's actually not the villain. The villain is time itself. Or like, the there is it doesn't matter. What the avatar is. Yeah. It's just going to be. It's just going to always be something. And he is like but a messenger, and let me say that in its own way. Not it's not exactly like palm Dora can way, but in its own way, this movie or the two movies that made up the cycle made a relatively compelling case in a perverse way for what he wanted because first of all who wouldn't want to eat those delicious space fruits that he was harvesting on his garden planet. But to what I heard about the posts snap world was that there were Wales in the Hudson river and the New York Mets don't exist. And I'm like sign me up sign me up. Sorry, if they wanted me to be on his side. There's never a line at Moore's bagels. No. I mean, there were pluses. Yeah. By the way, just side note, we knew from the trailers and from the events of the last movie that it would be the leftovers, or at least it would be elements of the leftovers this show that you and I learned to love very much. What I didn't. Appreciate was that the resolution of it would be manifest. For people who don't know manifest that hit NBC show about people who disappear for five years or something and then come back and everyone else's aged. So my question is in is Spiderman far from home about a bunch of annoyed twenty three year olds who have been held back for five years is a big thing because no Parker. Yeah. Has been gone, right? Or did they do or were they all gone? It's fascinating manifest shares. A floor with us you've been over to our writer's room. We're we're in the same space, and I have not broached it with them yet. I'm wondering if they feel it's pushed anything with w they are. They keeps them selves. Okay. That'd be a good opening gambit. They brought us doughnuts. That's nice. Which was very nice. They seem like group so Thanos good villain. Good villain. A lot more nebula than I thought. There was really surprised by the way over the last two two movies. I was just like man that's a lot in Evie earned gillen's. Really good. She sure is it. It is not the kind of thing. You know? I think I think Sean said this in his podcast as well. Not the most famous character, not the most iconic character a character that does exist in comics with a slightly different story. I think backstory, but the kind of thing that James Gunn was so smart about who he picked out of the marvel handbook basically if we wanted to use an in a way that I don't think any of us appreciate because she was sort of lost in the blur of blue people. But it's a terrific performance. And weirdly, you know, sort of became the the soul of the movies in a way. Yeah. I mean, it she definitely bore the most sort of scars from all of it. You know, literally. And I think that they they chose to put a lot of that pain on someone who is not like a real looking person for good for the exact reasons for talking about with it being PG thirteen essentially want to have like this kind of like distance between what the impact of this stuff is on the kids who are watching this movie. She was kind of one of a few people that I was surprised to see this much burn burn for war-machine. I mean, I mean if you want Don Cheadle watch black Monday, you what I mean like? He didn't throw himself off a cliff. But like, I don't think he booked a return ticket to Atlanta. I just y why were you surprised about how big the pot was the pepperpot? Oh for for the win. If got in on the action, everything Gwyneth was like the emotional sort of inflection point of the movie is good, by the way. Good after always has been. I've Ramos letter reading about composting. Look, she's she's just keeps giving I think clearly she in Downey have a nice report enjoy working together. Again to your point about him wanting to help sculpt the story he got to tell I think that aspect of it was probably important to him. Yeah. And really clever and enjoyable emotionally resonant that that's a nice way to talk about something that I wanted to say about the movie, which is I again, I don't know who actually if other hands get on these movies, if they're joked passes if other writers inasmuch as something this, so overtly in-intentionally cobbled together. And I mean that as a compliment. Could be written by just one or two people. I think this was written by one or two people, and I will give them even more credit there one or two people. I've never met them. I don't know them at all. But they have a passing familiarity with human emotion. The movies the blockbuster movies that are written by committee. They're usually like place holders for where the emotional part should be in. It just you feel it yet. You'll either manipulated or you feel nothing the emotional heart string, tugging parts of this film landed they were thoughtful, they were considerate. They were based at least in as much as a movie like this could be based. I think in actual experiences and feelings of loss. Yeah. Especially related to family, and whether those are blood family or people become your family, and I thought that was just really wonderfully done. And so the Tony stark death was a rare thing in movies where yes, I think we all understood it was coming. We all feel it was time. I thought it was considered it was appropriate to the character. And this thing they did again. It's just it's kind of a screenwriting trick. But it's also really Sweden impressive. Hologram thing will follow them things that they gave him his happy ending. And then it was time, you know, and the and then having pepper Potts. There and say, we'll be fine. You know, both as a incredibly moving and powerful emotional thing for someone. But also because she stands to inherit billion dollars industry. She's she's Laurien Powell jobs going forward. I'm going to buy the Atlantic. And I'm gonna make sure that journalism about journalism in the NC. You. She by the deal bugle. Tell him to stop besmirching Spiderman that good name. Good stuff by her surprising, surprising, burn time. But good stuff. I have like the last couple. I mean, we've talked about airmen a lot. Should we talk about captain America? It's wonderful stuff a wonderful stuff. Like, again, a thoughtful considered resolution to the story line. That was created not by the Russo brothers. But by Joe Johnson in the first avenger. But then basically he was their character. Right. Yeah. And they gave him his dance. Like, I I loved they said this in their interview with our old friend, David scoff in the times about the way, they looked at iron man and captain America. I liked that they had they have a second tertiary secondary. And tertiary way of thinking about the characters. It wasn't just Tony says this had cap says this and civil war is going to happen. It was that there arcs were parallel that Tony stark across these MCI movies was moving from selfishness to selflessness. And in a way, captain America was doing the reverse not that he was selfish at the end. But that he finally did he finally live the life did something for himself and for his own and for and lived a life and the way they found from to do it. And by the way, leaving open the possibility for Steve Rogers time pirate with inputting all the stones back. Like, I think that there is a flight. There's a. One in one hundred chance that Evans becomes the new downy and shows up in three or four movies as in like ten minutes at a time in the old makeup. I mean because that's a question. That's a good question. I forgot about that. He could do that. And that's also cannon there. I guess I shouldn't right marvel movies. The other reason why shouldn't right marvel movies is because even as he was eight money. I was like I wonder if Frank Grillo is going to emerge out of like the time machine and leave it out of old. Stephen would also look to save having him is like I am old. This is what I look like, I am now old bones. Yeah. I guess that's true. He would have the does a couple of blocks there for Evans was a little bit more about like whether or not this is the end for him. Now, I'm completely in the tank if I phrase it like the beauty of it is, but he could show up as an old guy for a scene or not, you know, clearly, look the old real, you know, I don't think old captain America. I don't think we can communicate this enough to younger listeners on just the fact that actors who can lead franchises who can do anything. They want show up for thirty seconds of screen time is such a seismic shift in the way actors used to be not just allowed to be. In projects, but the way careers were shaped. Yeah, it would not you know, to show up. You would need your millions of dollars and your screen time in your billing and everything and this is such a collective enterprise, whether it's based on back in participation or whether it's based on actual, goodwill and collegiality onset in Atlanta. People show up people show up for the stuff trying to think of that does anybody else I wanted to hit Thor Thor lebowski, there was a moment there. I was like are they going to have like is part of time travel going to be like Thor is gonna go back and do do some crunches Pilates too. Like, he's going to go back and go paleo, the the moment, they realize Hemsworth was funny, and they allowed the character to be money. Arguably like save the entire thing. It did save the entire thing because not to go back to the dark world. But one of the reasons why it was I mean, it's just sort of a met movie, but the idea of the sort of self important mythology dark elves stuff, it can be exhausting, and the reason for is really good in the comics when he's really good and the writer Jason Aaron just a great run on the character is because it can be majestic, but he can also get super drunk and write a space goat, which is a canonical character, by the way and Hemsworth probably the star of these. Movies, certainly the one everyone's most excited to see at this point, which is radical considering I actually think as guardians of the galaxy will be like, maybe it has a they has the chance to be the best movie. If he does that maybe does maybe doesn't know where he's at with things. But that was the moment the beginning rose like maybe they've gone too far with jokes in this movie because often the jokes have been on the James Gunn movies or the or ragnarok, maybe they don't maybe these guys are don't know the had a mix up the medicine. Just right. Yeah. But they did they found the exact right rhythm. Whether it's the hulk making tacos or whether it's him drinking beer and core offering the WI fi it embraced the absurdity in the same way that the best comics do so let's talk a little bit about the future. Okay. If you had to guess in ten years, you want me to say that scarlet which is also boring is that implicit I mean, we could go through any of the other characters once let's if you had to guess in ten years. Do you think the Russo brothers will be Steven Spielberg or Samri me in terms of their? Own career. Not that there's only those two choices. But I was Sam Ramey amazing director, obviously was at one point baking those Spiderman movies. Yeah. For like, this guy is just like a now kind of just works when he wants to. But makes smaller. It's a great question. I think the answer is neither. And I think the reason the answer is neither is because the entertainment industry has changed so radically yet they already have a deal that basically gives them their own mini studio. They have a deal where they can develop they can develop constantly for all formats, they have deadly classes at TV show already on scifi. They can be moguls themselves are making cherry yet. They're only their brand is very with Tom Holland. It's very different, you know in. This has set them up for the for a wild amount of success that does not live or die on the choices of what movies they make to direct which is really good for them. Honestly. Because where do you go here after doing this the perception game like what could you possibly do the could match it? And so instead of going trying to go higher ego wider. Do you want to keep going along with the characters who are in place with some new additions, whether it's the attorneys or whoever, but like, captain marvel Black Panther ant, man. Doctor strange the guardians door. So you lose iron man, captain America. Black widow will SAM's captain America now. But sorry, Chris Steve Rogers, do you want to keep going along with this Corgan, by the way is also cannon and creep keeps that happens in the comics as you have a better. Geared. Yes. I mean seriously. Yes. Or do you want to start from zero and start putting together the fantastic four x men? I I think that's you know, it's funny. I just said this about the Russo brothers. But I do think that's the play here. The the marvel universe isn't going to go away. And it's not. But it's also not I think going to begin assembling itself towards a peak. The question is revolving around a sun and the sun being like these team up movies that'll happen. Every five I think it's gonna go wider. I think the stories are going to start being on Disney Pluess who talked about. But I also think really so committed to sing undo it. I think a large how long did it take for Bill to start saying Oklahoma City thunder like five years, right? So I feel like that's our model. I think a lot of what's happening in Disney right now in in like the deep Dev labs where they don't even print the scripts out is fantastic for an x men related. What are they gonna do with these properties? How are they going to fold them in? I think that eternal 's we have no idea what it's going to be fascinating director really compelling cast. But even more so than guardians. It's a this isn't even a thing. This is a Jack Kirby concept that has never really solidified around a story. So it's a really big swing Shanxi. Just signed a dozen Cretin our boy to the director of the century's most important films short-term twelve serious. I we I think that's kind of exciting and cool. But that's also not necessarily on the scale these other movies. It does seem to me to be turning into something more wide ranging and more fluid where you're going to be excited to see doctor strange appear in a supporting role in the second active a movie where you might not have expected him that makes sense. You know, they they can tell they've broken the mold in terms of what's expected because I think the the radical delivery service for this story has broken this idea that they're trilogies. It has to be a trilogy in the trilogy will. Be done over six years. And then you move on. It's just gonna keep going. But I think that they will be there. I think they've been very smart about underlining how finite and final vis version is. Yeah. Because you cannot make a traditional epic. If you don't build it around the traditional you no longer emotional arcs of those big big big stars. And like you had in place for this one. So and frankly as we've seen Black Panther, probably the most compelling standalone superhero movie of this decade ever who knows. To chart doesn't really work as well. In someone else's movie. Right, right. It's wonderful to see him in his friends there. And it was a really cool moment. Everyone got so excited that they're just feels like that was a well realized story in a well realized world that you're almost like there's this like phantom limb where you're like, but I want to know what's going on. We'll kanda. Yeah. And that did happen and Infinity war, and that was pretty cool and the Infinity wars story to some extent tied in with the themes of Black Panther. I thought it was it was well done anything else. You want to hip for take off? It's interesting. I'm reaching for some analogy, maybe you can come up with something like some sort of like Maury ball or some NBA analogy that will work, and we'll be very on brand for for ringer content. But like we are just shifting and it's shifting at the right time as our storytelling culture, shifting from a star based system to just the content is the star, and he can go and a lot of different directions with it. Yeah. Like there aren't the in terms of the storytelling firmament like Chadwick bozeman. Scherzer can be up there on. Mt. Rushmore with Hemsworth and Evans and Downey is tested. Thompson there yet as Veltri. Maybe not yet. But boys at fucking exciting to see her and see her, right? A winged horse. I was really cool, and she's just great in this part. And so there are more stories to tell there. So in terms of optimism optimism about these stories. I'm weirdly more optimistic now because I think they seem pretty creative and fluid as to how they're going to do it and for as much as I like these movies and as much as I have some skepticism about the the Disney blues miniseries. What we've heard about them suggests that they are doing. On a smaller scale, what they did initially with the movies, which is pairing the talent with the best possible version of the character and story. Yeah. And I I think it's pretty fascinating to think about thrones ending avengers ending and the Skywalker saga ending all the same year and all three of those things being potentially. Somewhat cannibalized some would say expanded some would say, you know, their portfolios being diversified. But we could be sitting here in three or four years got whatever saying well. I'll be frozen at this age. Exactly. You're gonna grill yourself. We could be sitting here in a few years and be like, oh, there's three game of thrones shows on the AT and T Warner streaming service. There are ten marvel shows Benny often Weiss have a Star Wars trilogy. Ryan Johnson as a stores trilogy. There's anthology shows on Disney police, there's spinoffs from the Skywalker saga with Ray or or poor whoever. And that's how we get these stories now not in this way that we're talking about where it's like everything building up in the hype and everything I think I have mixed feelings about that. I do like Super Bowls. I do like Oscar. Do you even like three months of anticipation, and then I agree. I it was really fun to be able to go see this movie and have a certain level of confidence that I would enjoy it because I enjoy the people making it I enjoy the people in it. And you know, one of the things that I said often, I probably said too often on this podcast is that the difficulty in the last years of being a TV critic for me. And I think that it's continued probably exponentially. So for people who are still in the field practicing. It every day is that it started feel less like arts writing in more like wealth management advising in the readers were saying I have X number of hours per week. I need you to tell me how best to spend my capital, which is a very different equation as to in terms of how to process and had a comment or how to criticize appreciate art that said twenty one movies of time and thought capital invested in this project paid off. It felt like a really solid really enjoyable return on investment. Yeah. And that is that is a very specific feeling that is very hard to pull off and really remarkable and worth commenting on. And I don't know if you feel the same sort of thing if. You know with new Star Wars projects in movies. I don't feel that same cumulative build. I just kind of feel like I I'm I'm just being marketed to you know, because they because they have my cell phone on records. And the last time I gave it to them. You know, what I mean in the same thing with game of thrones? Like, I I don't I don't know if I want to know what happened the first long night if it's a good show. Maybe I'll get on board for marvel you're like. There's a little bit less of like a bar clear. Yes. Although maybe even that starting to fray, which is why they're adjusting. You know, we you and I went to see captain marvel together. And for the first time, we're like, what are we doing with our evening? Yeah. I mean, I think you're right though. I was looking through all the different phases phase one. If you just consider it a kind of getting a building going, you can't really judge to critically, but even to which I think probably had the my favorite couple of movies. Like, it has iron man three which I still think is such a weird gambit to let Shane by making. That was the kid from ironman three and ties him Gonzaga winter soldier and guardians it also dark roles on Altron. But I've really like iron man three winter soldier guardians. And inman. Does a really those were really good movie. And then in the most recent one it's been civil war. Doctor strange guardians to Spiderman. Homecoming ragnarok, Black Panther Infinity were in Las captain marvel. Don't get some slight duds there. But some real home runs in the most recent thing too. So it's interesting. But if you take away the critic hats in in take away, the word logic. I do you and I've always enjoyed mass entertainment and shared collective experience. This was really fun. It's been the high water season for that. Yeah. It's been high season for all right, man. So you'll be with us Monday yet talked runs. Okay. Sealer? Can I get a coffee before Monday show? Sure it works, right? It does apparently coffee works guys steak Grillo.

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No Crying In Football

High Noon

21:55 min | 2 years ago

No Crying In Football

"And. Right. Sorta hard to explain. All the idea that maybe just maybe the rules by put out like Francis fired uniform mood, Minnesota get it. Yeah. And I thought about buying one. I can't walk around the house name on my back. These days you walking around with him on your fantasy writings. Right? And that's not my back, right? That's not like my actual body or anything like that. So that would keep you the world's biggest fringe fan. Affect? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Only Jimmy Butler on that squad. I would consider. We got names both. First name today is Derek Carr, because Marcus Thompson OB athlete reports. The raiders quarterback now has a fractured relationship with his teammates. After veered car was crying on the field after a sack and video that emerged from the raiders Seahawks game. Gonna watch him. Cry allegedly cries. That'll feel right there. He is crumbled to the ground and taking on that. Do. Well, it does look painful and grabs the arm and contortion of the face that Mike Florio very ungenerously described as a kid falling out the bicycle. But there is there is this, it's cry like it is cried, like and Derek Carr for the record says he was not crying at least no tears, but the you believe him end should this matter what you do now given the locker rooms response? I mean, it looks like he was crying, right? I mean, that's all I've got. All I can say is that it looks like he was crying. I don't know. He needs to other people who were there little bit closer to actually determine whether or not he was crying. Now, where do we go from here? The story that Marcus a proud graduate of university wrote is though not just so much about this moment, but the fact that this whole team seems to have descended into chaos, everything seems to be messed up. The raiders are the raiders. They have always been. And I thought, if you hi to ten million dollar coach, he comes in and fixes it. Instead, he seems to have exacerbated. Surveyed it and in the middle of it, dear carbide have been crying. Yeah, and Derek cars, defense, Carr. Brothers have come out and said that she had a head injury of some sort on that play. And then the older brother that was David, Darren cargo, I didn't know existed pointed out that there was a broken back leg finger, crushing ribs, and the ankle sprains all this stuff and his career only missed two games. So to me, the crying there is some masculinity Sihala here, but I do not dispute the fact that this may have mattered quite a bit to those teammates speaks to this functionality that you owe. Now, one thing I will say is I do not question Derek Carr stuff, right? If no, the reason that I ain't playing a game about how much it is that you pay me and the injuries that he is played replay through last year. Largely with broken back. I'm not gonna criticized that dude. Question toughness is I will say this though, while it is okay to cry, just some places that you probably don't wanna cry and one of those places where you don't wanna cry is when they're eleven dues on the other side. Eighty sign of weakness trying to destroy you right? Probably should try to hold it in. If you can't also doesn't help when you're playing kind of poorly right Jalen Ramsey can drive with Jalen. What becomes eight. It's okay to cry. I don't know if that's where you want to do, what he probably didn't want it that way needed. Probably names Cowboys today. Phil, Jason, Gary went on the radio to convince Dallas fans that Amari Cooper was worth the first round draft pick they trade him yesterday, folks on the fact that he's only twenty four Bob low. Did calbos make him stay, give it up a first rounder for Cooper, it feels like the Cowboys were desperate. It feels like the Cowboys were really the only ones willing to offer a first rounder for a guy who led the league in dropped percentage. So to me, it does seem like an overpaid, but I do understand that if you are Jerry Jones and you don't wanna fight your your head coach and everyone's criticizing your quarterback and your offense that this is one of those moments where desperation is at the very least sort of understandable. Okay. Basic economics here, right? If you really want or need something, you were willing to pay more. They really need a y. Wide receiver. And so they paid the price to get what here's the thing we've seen it written that the Cowboys were thinking really leaning for taking a wide receiver in the first round of the draft that was coming up because they're receiving is so bad. They hit percentage of wide receivers in the first round is not good. Go randomly pick any of the last six years and go see what's happened with wi- receives. I think twenty fourteen might be the only year that you really get something going. Otherwise you get one guy who's good and maybe a bunch of a bunch of other guys that are kind of throw it around twenty eleven AJ Adrian Julio Jones. But it's not like, right, I'm get that sort of situation. So Cooper is twenty four. He is six months younger than Calvin Ridley who is a rookie this year. If you were going to spend a first round pick on the chance at a wide receiver I understand using a first round pick off one in spite of the drops who is pretty good if not. Great. Now, my concern though for the Cowboys Jerry Jones may not have updated his personal math on this simply because Jerry Jones in the past has paid not just a first rounder buddy first, rounder plus other stuff. And. Change for ROY Williams in exchange for Joey Galloway. I do wonder or at least part of me does whether Jerry Jones up to speed on the whole rookie wage scale rising. One. I mean, Stevens even Jones is probably the one that made these moves. I'm pretty sure they know what this is going to be, but they need a receiver mad, they do, you go get one, and here's a story that will delay the head coach controversy or get them fired faster. Because if you're excuse the giants after dropping last night's game against the falcons twenty three to twenty, the giants are one in six and coach. Pat Shurmur seem fed up with ally manning now thing, what throw it to del after a backbreaking. Fourth goal incompletion which we will watch right now. Is the daily being checked by number forty one, the falcons once had a number forty one. They got arrested tonight before the Super Bowl is solicited in the process, but who remembers that? I know idea. He's open. Like what. What. Who do you see lasting longer in New York? Is it you or is it patch? It's gotta be Shurmur, right? Like this has to be the last year. Ally manning is the starting quarterback for the giant. There can be no way around that. The only way Shurmur doesn't last longer than him is Shurmur gets fired in the middle of the season, which I do not believe is going to happen because with ally manage to make some plays like the giants had some big plays down the field. This is not just about being terrible all the time at the offensive line was really bad, but it's much about the place that ally did not make them as it is the ones that he did, and that's what he didn't make wealth harder. I confused sometimes as to who is responsible for the fact that in nineteen red zone plays only five of those went to the two nitrous engine strapped to the golf cart. That is Eli manning saquon Barkley and Odell. Beckham junior are right there. Fourteen they didn't touch. The ball doesn't enormous, enormous issue, but I also want to ask. You both the falcons kind of interesting they look good. Are you gonna re that Matt, Ryan? Is someone he won the game? What do you? What do you give a grade on him? What is the giants record? Giants are one in six. The hell? Are you talking about the they look good. The James make everybody look. Good way around there. Is it, Matt? Ryan hasn't very impressive numbers. Got great receivers. They're going to have days where they can put up some abortion, but I'd say it is maybe it was just the process and all my television. You tell me if I was wrong, but man, some of them throw those out route seem stowaway hanging up their little long time. So I mean, the fact is right now our third in their division, you come up to talk about how good falcons look Brad was over there to ask me how optimistic about the brand of you've ever paid any attention to the history of the NFL who's optimistic about? Why would you ever be optimism about the the the last time anybody had any grounds be optimistic about the fastest? They were here by twenty five points in a Super Bowl and how'd that work out? Are you optic about the fact that's quit that not so. I'll take that as a as a no on the NFL kits. The people want to be educated. No fun. Nickname, broad Jane plagues. Oh, and three after losing in overtime gets Spurs last night and a game. The Brown was hailed both as clutch and criticizes choker liberation. We'll pick things up with the labor trailing by three, but just seconds ago and regulation that's go. And getting rained over, but he do right ninety did the only thing you can do in that case out ball hula collecting the Broncos are up one. He has to throw hers thirteen left and overtime, who's Burs get it. Now the real pledge of injured. That's right. Patty mills there. It is nails from down under love to make the bog on back to the Brian where is coach, which one of the, I don't know which one of them was given instructions, which was like you ever go. Step back. They'd have problems starting to wonder, just how good this team will be this year. So the free throws here are a genuine. The fascinating thing simply because the Brown isn't good at shooting free throws in that scenario, Tom Haberstroh our friends at a story, twenty seventeen where he found out that LeBron tried eighteen different like mechanics before he shot his free throws. It's been a problem for him for a couple of years now, but both that's not the reason why the Lakers should be worried. You're not worrying about him the word about the defense because the Spurs who were starting the Brin Forbes that neither of us have heard of before ended up dropping many points and they can't really play small ball win. Dude. Javale McGee is the key to your defense, and that's all they got now, one thing we don't know what the Spurs are, right. Let us all be clear, but the Spurs top players still pretty good, right? Rosen and Aldridge and both of them bald out in because it is good. Now, my thing route look at the Lakers is in eastern games, three losses teams that might make the playoffs in all. All of them were close. The defense is a visible, but couple possessions in both of these games that we're talking about there being three, and we're asking the question is whether or not they're legitimate championship threats. Like that's where we are. We're three games into an NBA season and by the way they were down last night Rondo and Ingram because you know, yes, pensions. And I would say that if teams want to play the small ball thing like this is why dream on green is so unique. He can be the guy at center, ten LeBron do that. Maybe he can join the postseason. But right now. Right? What caliber defensive players the broad James right now don't. High noon is brought to you by Geico. Fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance. What about part of you in your heart of hearts? There is a tiny Balawi wearing falcons jersey, Bo. I just want to quarrel little water on that guy. It seem a little bit, but there's not. You don't want him to exist, but he's there. I quote. It's easy to sit in a breast box and say, hey, they should run the ball, come down and stand on the sideline with me and make decisions. Said eagles coach, Doug Peterson after being questioned about whether he should have called more running plays in the fourth quarter and Phillies up seventeen to nothing before blowing. The lead also told me questions. Crazy. Do you think it's crazy to question MIR, first of all, I think somebody should responded to that question with be down there. Next Sunday just stand there right next to him. It'd be like, coach, I think you should run the ball and just see what is reacted is going to make the offer, but no is not crazy. Now, the argument that he has against it is run the ball with who've right was small, would Clement who's on my fantasy team not doing nearly enough with a 'cause like these? Not exactly like he's talking about turn it around handed. Ricky Watters, something like that and grinded out the clock that been said, if you're going to blow a lead that in the fourth quarter and not run the ball, people are going to ask if you should run the ball in your answer, just has to be no. It's important to recognize that Doug Peterson is not a caveman of coach. She is a guy who gets data from his analytics department, which shape how we want to the ball. Shaped the Phillies special call which shaped him being otherwise fairly risk seeking him going for two when they were down fourteen. That was a whole story a couple of weeks ago. And this is very much about the fact that he can't throw his running game under the bus. So explicitly if you look at the numbers last year, they're running the ball in the fourth quarter with the lead over sixty percents. Now this year when they have all of those that I don't know that you mentioned there in the forties. He's just trying to be diplomatic and he's taking it out on people of our, yeah, but it's always come down here and make decisions with us. Come on, stand to game is we know run the ball, even run the clock. It's it's not wrong. If someone to ask you that question. That's quote these DiBa wide receivers wanted to go to the bathroom as defensive linemen we didn't go to the bathroom. You sat on the bench, did your business and you got. Demanding booger, follow and have to learn Odell Beckham Joni went to the bathroom. Do you Jaren the falcons possession in pre in the game? Yes. I'm so discombobulated plays video. We, we will do that on the sideline. I didn't need to go to back, but we just kind of sit out onto bench and business move on. That's did too much. Missing all these. These receivers wanted to go to bathroom as deep defensive apartment. We didn't go to the bathroom. You sat them to bitch, got up. Food IM team booger on this. I know you are not what is on team bugger because he's not alone. Larry is, oh, Bill Belichick. Larry is, oh, a game ball because he pooped in a bucket on the sideline is, is bucket a slang term for your own pants. It is not. It's not the same Channing. Crowder the linebacker. I believe who allegedly urinated on himself every single game that he what and what do they do they have to do with you, right. Like why does the fact that they did this? Make you say it's okay. Lead all malign globalizing to people in the history of the leave. I'm sure there are more normal, right? Because you know of any of them that you ain't got to go. This bar this preposterous. This is ridiculous. I am hoping so much. Booger was joking because the big thing about it is he used that Royal, we'd right we would do. I talked to a defensive line today who made it clear report. It was just book. He. Somebody else got to sit on that bench. Think about that for a second while you out here defending that unsanitary. Hey, now the reason why would ever disagree with booger on this is simply that Odell Beckham. Junior, I tried. I spent some time trying to convince him to drink more water, and now he finally got hydrated. He finally had to go and relieve himself, and I do worry that Boogers coming on a little too strong for a guy who just came to terms with the fact that water is good for. Yeah. Let me ask you questions about your your Roger's father. The LeBron James is not Joe tar. Now you're, you're just father who I'm sure had to come around at the fact of you doing this job in the first place rather than being a doctor or something that was, how does your urologist father field hearing you talk about? No big deal urinating on yourself. I imagine in the world of urology, they tell people don't do that because this nasty problem in the world of your allergy. They just install a catheter. I mean, that's all right. Well, you know what? Send them Boogers phone number because apparently he's in the market. Dad got a new fines, a patient. Guess what they call it in medicine. You should be ashamed of everything. You just said that last last quote. They helped me up. Said, top college, basketball recruit Darius Bazeley after he was guaranteed one million dollars by new balance to be an intern for three months as part of his shoe contracts yet accepted an offer from Syracuse, but the committed in March. So Bo, is this going to be a trend? Well, what part of we talking about being trained like seriously? Like, what are we saying? I think we're asking about the new balance end of things. We shoe companies offer deals to promising prospects like the guy behind. Okay. So what we have here by the way, this is a promising prospect, but this is not somebody that people think is going to set the fire, right? Like he's not. He's not that sort of player, but what is he already decided that he wasn't going to go to Syracuse, decided it wasn't worth it. He's going to train on his own personally, talked about going to the g. league to do his own training with Mike mill. Right, right, right. In order to get there, right. So if he's going to get a shoe deal, it's understandable that it would pay out what's cool about it is the chart show because he's learned some business stuff there, but it's a cool story. I don't think it's a revolutionary one. Well, as revolutionary. Zafar is that this is Rich, Paul and LeBron James behind the scenes further eroding the g. league as this place of interest. It's also admittedly something that really only new balanced can do because new balance doesn't have deals with all these colleges. So guess what they can all these bridges. I have good news for you bow. After the break, we're gonna talk about Russian Botts, Russia trolls. You really should subscribe to the high noon podcast money's to and if you're interested, what it's like to be old, then listen. Howdy partners. High noon is brought to you by the beef lovers banquet at golden corral with new bacon wrapped sirloin fillets and more. Don't forget to give me a father's fall numbers. I can tell you about what you've been spread like literally spreading germs and disease. When I was growing up, I played with all of these medical tools without realizing what they were four. I am so numb to all. I mean, I truly cannot be less phased by the things that those I'm going to read this number. Now today's number twelve thousand. That is approximately how many tweets, Russian trolls sent effort to fuel the NFL anthem. Controversy from twenty fourteen to twenty eighteen Bo. What was your reaction to learning that Dubar fighting ghosts like that is what are the great things about social media? This point is you don't know if you're actually talking to a person right? All feels like the Okey Doke and they figured out that people are really mad. Like I say, this is someone who's contributed to this climate to start degree down to fight, right. But we're fighting goats renite into fighting real people. People just don't want idea out there and then it bounces around enough. And then everybody's charged. Like I read a story the other day about some political figure. They were like, hey, the crowd seemed responsive to this. I look at it. It's obviously a tweet from, but like it's not a real person. People can't tell rights and it's important to recognize that the trolls have identified sports as useful breeding ground for all of the things that frustrate us. Oftentimes I would think to myself, wow, it feels like going online to talk about a real substantive sports and political issue is a lot like arguing with a room full of sock. Puppets that hate Colin Kaepernick. That is exactly what it has been without ration- and the truly depressing part about this as we've talked about in our own lives navigating how much we should even be on. This thing we've realized is that this stuff, it actually has an effect. They're taking the lowest hanging fruit. I am a person, Jim, four, five, seven, eight, nine q. three, and I'm going to weigh in and guess what? That is a thumb on someone scale, which is horrified, but they're not really jumping on a sports topic with this. It's a race they're not you're right, right, right. It happens to be coming in the world of sports, but it is a race topic is something that needs to be considered as we're out here fighting. The ghost is we as an industry are taking a lot of our cues. What goes on social media is used as a proxy for all of these different things. So all these ghost wind up getting charged up and they start fighting and everything else. And then there people ultimately make decisions based upon what these ghost are doing. They're like, hey, man, the mad people are people. They are sock puppets run by the Kremlin twenty eighteen. In closing, I would like to declare that I officially like Mavericks rookie. Luca Danni pitches style. Let's walk. The blade from last night. Mavs one be behind the back fake really flick really clever. This is what Don which can bring to the table as a former multiple time euro league MVP. This is in the play from last night that truly made me appreciate this guys, how we rolled his keys believe I look down. Here we go. Law. I would argue that the block Luca with Ozzy. That's a lot. Yes. Bowl at our ongoing product Ling of cross cultural cross, continental exchange. So basically what you had to get you all white Dante. Look this house say, got room what? Right? His let that ride help, but not on you n. dry. It's more cross cultural exchange. I appreciate it. 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Mason and Ireland HOUR THREE

Mason & Ireland

00:00 sec | 1 year ago

Mason and Ireland HOUR THREE

"Right here, we go, and it's time for fasttrack and on one side of the coin, we'll make it easy the Detroit Pistons on the other side of the coin our beloved, Los Angeles, Lakers. John Ireland called in the air Lakers found something the other night in Dallas two in a row tonight Lakers. Excellent faster fasttrack punched by Rex Rex dedicated to helping homeowners save using game changing technology a full-service experience. No middleman, Rex's, cutting agent commissions by seventy percent to get started an unlock your savings. Visit Rex homes dot com. All right. Makes you mention yesterday that since you're a fan of imagine dragons you were getting a lot of negative tweets about their halftime performance at the national championship game. Now, spin magazine is piling on posting an article today with this headline, quote is imagine dragons the worst band ever and cook in the piece it says among other things, quote, imagine dragons music is aggressively unpleasant, and it's only natural to graphs for something even louder to distract oneself. Inner Lil Wayne dressed as the hamburglar in pirate boots. Here's my question. Where is this hate coming from? I'm not a huge fan of imagine dragons, but you are. And I have no problem that one of my friends found a ban that he likes happy for you. This happened with Hootie and the blowfish to people just all of a sudden started hating on them is it because they're oversaturated white where what's the, hey. Well, there are a little oversaturated because their song of their new album natural was used in every college football promo. We used it here at the station. It was just Anthony. They write anthems. Okay. What I don't understand is. If they are an awful banned the song radioactive was downloaded by more people than any other song in recorded history. And I guess I'm looking I wanna I want to tackle a bigger picture here. Because I guess I'm saying like music is a form of art. Yes. If someone paint like let's say you don't care for the Mona Lisa, right? No one. Has ever read knows that she should smile k. Yeah. But nobody ever has written a piece entitled is Mona Lisa. The worst painting ever it just they hate seems disproportionate to what we're they're just a band if you people know they have the ability to turn the band off. Right. Of course, if you don't like them stubs in the market will dictate whether they're successful or not and right now, the market says there, you just can't tickly successful. I said yesterday if you do one of these bits, if you do the halftime show at the college football national championship the Super Bowl, if you host the Oscars people are the haters are going to come out. So I'm morning Adam LeVine in advance prepare. Nobody is going to light your halftime straight. It's almost impossible to succeed into the conditions. Do you think it's social media driven? In other words, now than everybody has an opinion. There's more people putting that out in the Easter. Yeah. I mean, I think it just it comes in a wave a gigantic. Wave doesn't make sense to me. If I if you like a band that I just for whatever reason don't get or care for. I would never go out and say that band is awful. I love the magic dragons, Dan Reynolds, and imagine dragons fantastic band. I don't understand why people are piling on. I thought their set was again, there's a set. I thought there's not they did a tight they typeset. They did like five hits in the middle two and a half time show yesterday. Little Wayne was a little weird coming up. But I don't think that was their decision to your earlier point, even Justin Timberlake, and I don't know anybody who doesn't like Justin Timberlake got ripped last year. After the halftime show. That's the halftime show. He's Justin Timberlake. Yeah. I think if you hang yourself out there people are going to attack, and they did imagine dragons, God bless him and keep making music. I John it came up yesterday on Twitter. Somebody suggested that we how long have we done fast track for years ten. Ten plus years plus years, somebody suggested once again that the theme music for fast track is tired. And they suggested we change it. What do you think of that idea? All right. So little history. Little Mason in Ireland show history. A few years ago. We did we tried this. We changed music. We're gonna mix in different songs that had that had anything about fast or moving cars. And it was a disaster. It didn't feel right it sounded goofy. The eagles are a classic all-time band. Right. The day that Glenn fried died who is a huge Laker fan. I said to myself this is perfect or leaving it in. It's it's as big a part fasttrack as you. And I think we should change. Are you willing to experiment for a day? Sure. But what's the other saw? Yeah. If you have an idea for what song we could use in place of the eagles. Just one day at Venice Mace at LA Ireland. I would suggest an imagine dragons. Have you ever been to a restaurant that you get the same thing? Every time it's been around. Now. I always do it. Right. And then still you go into that restaurant. And they take away that thing in your you'd be upset. Right. You do for or against I'm against j to what about trading it for one day short. Do you have a shot? I bet you people. Will his everybody hates every day. In magazine will write an article is Mason, Ireland's fasttrack song the worst ever. If you've got an idea at Venice Mace at LA Ireland. We will try it for one day. If you come up with a perfect song. All right Mace, former Sports Illustrated and current NBC sports analyst Peter King revealed on Friday morning, he removed in Tonio Brown completely from his all pro ballot due to the ongoing situation between Brown and the Steelers Brown led the NFL in receiving touchdowns with fifteen but king feels he quit on his team in the last week of the season. So he completely took him off his ballot. Would king was asked about it. He said this, quote, I'm very very serious about these votes. They mean a lot to me. But if a guy takes six percent of his season and purposely, flushes it down. On the toilet. I can't vote for him for anything. He wouldn't be among my top ten or even twenty receivers for this season and quote fair or unfair for king to completely take Brown off of his Bali. I think it's unfair. Because there was a fair amount of. Dysfunction in that organization. In fact before that last regular season game apparently during practice. Antonio brown. Ran the wrong route and Ben Roth rothlisburger yelled at him and said get him out of here. Get somebody else out here Ben Rothlisberger. And Antonio Brown just had a dysfunctional relationship. And I think that's what led to the issues that Peter King is talking about first of all let me say I'm a big Peter King fan loved Monday morning quarterback. I even read it now that he's handed it off to somebody else. I think Peter's grade on TV, I think he's a great writer could not disagree more with how he's handled this. So what you're saying Peter is if Antonio Brown just happened to be injured, that's fine. But because he had an actual dispute with the team that where he disagreed with. How things were being done. You're writing him off. Not just bumping him off of your first or second spot. But completely off of your 'bout this eminent, Ted Williams in the forties. Ted Williams was such a crank and was such a jerk to the media that a couple of guys in the year. He hit four hundred left him completely off the ballot. These ballots should be based on performance only on what a guy does between the lines when he's out there. I don't think this is fair. I think Antonio Brown is getting screwed. I think that unless Peter King knows exactly what happened in the stuff. You're talking about the dysfunction that's going on with the Steelers. He's doing a tremendous disservice to in Tonio Brown. And by the way, some of these guys get paid bonuses based on whether or not they make all pro. So he's taken money out of the guys pocket for from a situation that he I'm assuming hasn't talked to in Tonio Brown about. Yeah. Tony Brown tweeted after he saw this see no leverage for players. And I think he's got a point. I think Peter mishandles this completely agree. All right. Let's do some NFL playoff trivia. I've got five multiple choice questions. The last minute, of course, is worth two and a half. Okay. Because that's the weird way. We do things here. Here we go most who has the most. You're listening to Caspian Los Angeles. Who has got the most playoff touchdowns in a career? Is that a Jerry Rice be Emmett Smith see Thurman Thomas most playoff touchdowns in a career, Greg? I think it's Jerry Rice. But I don't know why he threw Thurman Thomas in there. I must say Jerry Rice gra-, Jay. Jerry Rice, Jerry Rice, Jerry Rice played for about twenty seasons. But so did Emmett Smith just to be different. I'm gonna say Emmitt Smith Emmitt Smith is not the right answer. The right answer is Jerry Rice, God Jerry Rice has twenty two Emmett Smith Twenty-one and Thurman Thomas Twenty-one. So they're the top close. What single player has scored the most touchdowns in a playoff game. Is that a Ricky Watters for the forty Niners in nineteen Ninety-three Lagarde blunt for the patriots and twenty thirteen or Andy Farkas for the Washington Redskins in one thousand nine hundred forty three j what was the first one again Ricky waters for the forty Niners in nineteen Ninety-three. I think it was Ricky waters. I'm also going Ricky Watters, Greg. I thought blunt was the one to break that I'll say legare blunt Lagarde blunt the incorrect answer, the correct answer is Ricky Watters Lagarde blunt did have four in a playoff game in two thousand thirteen may have been the Super Bowl. Who has the most career playoff sacks? Is it a Willie mcginest b b Bruce Smith or see Reggie White Willie mcginest Bruce Smith, Reggie White. John you start this one. I'll go Bruce Smith, Greg. Yes. Outgoing Bruce Smith Bruce Smith. Yeah. All run correct, dances Willie mcginest was sixteen. Bruce Smith did have fourteen point five in his playoff career who has got the most career rushing yardage in NFL playoff history. Is that a Emmett Smith be Franco Harris or see Thurman Thomas start with J Emmitt Smith Emmitt Smith? But Franko hairs playing a lot of playoff games. But there weren't as many wildcard rounds back then. Oh, just to be different. I'll say Franco, Harris great. I'm just going to be different completely say Thurman Thomas. So somebody's somebody's right into our wrong. Jay is correct Emmett Smith fifteen eighty six Franco, Harris fifteen fifty six and Thurman Thomas, fourteen forty two I got screwed by thirty are. That's the top three and the last one all right now. Greg we need this is funny. Jaaz three Greg as one and I have one so Greg if you and I get it, right? We pass J by half a point. This one's worth two and a half, right? Who and a j you have to go. I who has the best playoff career quarterback rating. This is based on a hundred and fifty or more attempts best career playoff quarterback rating. Is that a Bart Starr be Aaron Rodgers or see Kurt Warner J Kurt Warner Kurt Warner because I think Jay's right, but because I have to go different. I will say Aaron Rodgers Aaron Rodgers for John. Yeah. I was thinking Kurt Warner the before the question even ended I'm gonna say Bart Starr to have one for everyone. The winner of this game, Greg bird. Fire because you were forced it is Bart star one. Oh, four point eight quarterback rating Aaron Rodgers second. Kurt Warner third. So those were the top three congratulations to Greg Bergemann aright coming back next. More fast track in just to mid not going away belong. Don't go anywhere who minutes. Mason Ireland ESPN LA told you that was only two minutes Ireland. You are I may say fuzzier whose flight attendant daughter was assigned to work on Christmas Eve decided to fly with her. So she wouldn't have to spend the holiday away from family. How von took six delta flights on December twenty fourth and twenty fifth to be with his daughter Pierce. This story has gone viral and Hal is being hailed as a great father. Here's a serious question. Pierces adult attractive, she's about twenty five. She has her own career. If you were a flight attendant and your dad you and I both lost her dad's last year. But if you're offered to do this like say, hey, I don't want you have to spend holidays fair. So I'm gonna go on six flights in a row. Would you want it or discourage them from doing? No, I would want it. It's first of all. I mean, it's it's a really cool idea. I I love my damn remember, family flies free. So he took advantage of benefits. Yeah. I mean, I think it's fantastic. I would I would love it. I think it's a cool idea. And my dad would love to go viral. You're dead would love to go by viral. I would try and talk my dad out of it simply because I would know he was doing it to be a good, dad. But I know he wouldn't enjoy it to go on sixty like she was going like LA DC to Atlanta to Detroit today, you know, just eating airline, Greg. How about you? If your dad offered to do it. Would you encourage him or discourage him he would never do it? Right. Would how would you feel about it? I think that would be that'd be cool. Then. Absolutely. Why not? And apparently, wait went viral was this guy. How was sitting next to another passenger who thought it was the coolest story he had ever heard like the was flying to go see his family, and he goes, well, my daughter is actually a flight attendant on this flight? So she didn't have to spend the holidays by herself. I'm just hanging out. Right. I'm not going to any of these cities. I'm just flying around. Right. And and and he's being hailed as like a five year type gas. So she enjoyed it. And she really liked it. So good for her good. I just wonder if most people would welcome it or discourage. It sounds like all of us. I would try and talk that out of it just because I know he wouldn't enjoy it. But you guys would take come on come on dad if you're willing to do it. You can make some history, and you can go viral go going viral, the key thing. All right in the in the seventies and eighties. There was a serial killer known as the Golden State killer. A guy named Joseph Di Angelo was arrested in April and charged with the murder of thirteen. But yesterday, he was cleared using DNA technology if he'd been convicted he could have been sentenced to the death penalty, you've always been a proponent of the death penalty. Yeah. Does this story change or my? And it's one of many minutes seems to have won a year where a guy gets Zonta. Yeah. And then gets exonerated later. You know, what I would add strangely popped into my head? When you said it it's like I'm kind of coming around on replay. Replay they replace stuff and then still get the call wrong. And then I wonder well, the the point of replays to get it. Right. So maybe we don't even go there. I'm I am starting to soften on the death penalty. I I would probably still vote for it. But there needs to be several loopholes before we kill somebody. Right. It's almost always men. I can't remember tuning women getting couple. But, but I I would be in favor of several more hoops to jump through before we actually normally it's by injection or in the gas chamber, right? But some of these guys like they'll admit it. Sure. Like, yeah. I killed six people. Right. We don't need you. Here's the thing. Although if you're religious, you know, what a priest would say if he was here is God is the only one who's led to kill and that sort of my view from and this is I've never lost anybody to a murder. Never nobody. I in my family has ever been raped. None. None of these crimes have ever been in my family. But from. A spiritual perspective, I still find it wrong to take a life. Okay. Even if it's something insanely agree. Just like, even if it was the guy who shot up sandy hook and killed all those little kids. You wouldn't be okay with sentencing that guy to the chair. I mean that guy needs to be done. He needs to be gone off the planning, but it's hard. I understand that if you have a morally hard if you have a moral obligation or moral problem with actually putting someone to death. That's the test case somebody would kill twenty five little kids, and obviously that person's mentally ill. Right. But I mean to me you have to eliminate the problem once that guy cross that line he shouldn't be on the face of the earth anymore. I it's hard, but I would be against the death penalty. Even in in that a lot of people are people are coming around on that the polls show a few years ago that like seventy percent of the people were pro death penalty. Now, it's coming closer to fifty fifth. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, I that was an accident. We weren't making light. All right. I got a game last one for me. Right. Honor of this. Saturday's Rams Cowboys game. I have a list. All right. All of these people have worked for the Rams the Cowboys or both. Okay. Okay. So that's the answer. Rams Cowboys or both that Greg Bergman new. I Wade Phillips though, Jay. Oh, yeah. Both makes yet both. You're all correct. Wade Phillips was the head coach of the Cowboys and is now the defensive coordinator for the Rams Eric Dickerson. Jay. Just around. Okay. Mace just the ramps. Greg didn't you have like a year with the Cowboys and say both? Mace and JR, correct? He had a year with the raiders. But because he's from SMU a lot of people think it was the Cowboys. All right J and Steve or two for to Lance Allworth Mace hall of fame wide receiver Lance all worth Rams Cowboys are both. I'm gonna go Cowboys. All right. Gregg, say Cowboys J Cowboys. You're all correct. A most of his career spent with the chargers, and then spent the end of his career at the Cowboys. All right. Take on Austin, Greg both j. Yeah. Both may yet both. Yep. Naisi one tame on Austin traded from the Rams to the cubs. Yes. Was it goes a tip in all right J Nick foles the current eagles quarterback? Nick foles. What do you think? I'll say no can't be Rams only. Okay. Mace? Rams only great. Yeah. Rams. Only guys are all correct. He is from Texas. But he played for the Rams he played a year with the chiefs. He went to the eagles. And and now he's probably going somewhere else next year. Okay. Macy's is you I James Washington UCLA defensive back James Washington who used to come on our show friend of the Mason in Ireland show longtime defensive back in the NFL Rams Cowboys or both. I'm going to say both. Okay. Greg j dub was just a cowboy. Okay, j just Cowboys Steve Mason is correct. He played for both the Rams and the Cowboys matter of fact, put for the Los Angeles Rams Lynn, Cowan defeated. This. Can you are six for six my friend? Let's see how you do. Now as it gets tougher rocket Ishmail. Greg Notre Dame legend rocket Ishmail. No us with the Cowboys for sure with the Rams. I will say short stint with the Rams both. Okay. You're going both j just the Cowboys. Just the Cowboys Mace. I'm going just the Cowboys Mason is seven for seven. It was just the cow. The raiders the raiders for a little while. He's got raiders written all over. Okay. Steve Walsh, J, the former Miami quarterback who who had a long run in the NFL Steve Walsh. Rams. Cowboys are both. I'll say both. Okay mace. I'm going both, Greg. Yeah. Go both Mason is eight for Steve Walsh. Played for the Rams and the Cowboys. Mace? Tony zendejas. Interesting. Tony Zendejas from the kicking Zendejas brothers. I am going to go. Cowboys zone. Okay. Great. I'm gonna go both right J grams only. Jay Corrales to Rams only. Yeah. I knew what the Rams so Mace FAZ is I like your eight of nines goes on a winner. Jack. Can they catch me with two and a half? They can't catch you. Everybody's been doing well here. Greg you got that one right? Correct. No, I I did Jay got that one. Right. So Jay can catch. You mace? You have eight out of nine J has seven out of nine. Greg's just playing for fun. All right. So Greg let you go first Jack del Rio. Former raiders coach Jack del Rio. We'll say both. Okay. Jay, I'll say both to okay mash. Think about something. Go ahead. I'll say both. Yes, you win strategic. You're all three of you are wrong. They open the door. Go. I. Yeah. That's the new rule though. No del Rio. Played only for the Cowboys never played for the ramps the way how random that the last one is worth two and a half to keep the game. It's a game. But you did a very good price thing. You did like on the price is right. Where you you? Go one dollars. Yes. There you go. All right. Time for one more two minutes. Let's do the birthday game that only takes one minute. All right. We haven't done it in a while. We haven't done it in a while. We're maybe out of practice. What's our record? Greg nineteen. Okay. Records nineteen I've got at least twenty twenty lined up. Okay. Ready? First clue starts clock. NBA the king plays for the Lakers. Lebron James eagles quarterback. He's her. Nick foles. Carson Wentz hosted the today show till he got me to me. I'm our played Hannibal Lecter in silence. Anthony Hopkins Queen of disco. Let's dance the last summer. Only if one of by land two if by sea midnight ride of of the midnight ride of. Revere. Yes. She sold. The American flag Betsy Ross he yelled show me the money. Cuba, getting junior not Peyton, but his brother ally. Manning starting Braveheart lethal weapon Gibson discovered gravity and apple Thelma said Thomas Edison, no fan, frankly. No, no skip it third baseman for the cubs. Kris bryant. Yeah. She played Betty, Draper and madman January Jones. She's a one female judge on dancing with the stars carry Naba. She started Annie hall. Dang keaton. She's from the hills married to Jay Cutler, Kristen cavalier played Tom Hagen and godfather rubber divall. I'm going to give us credit for that one. I got sixteen sixteen miss the one that we missed was discovered gravity and apple fell had Isaac Newton. Oh crap. That's tough. There was some historical ones. You know, what I would have done to get me to say that. But the cookie fig. Oh, yeah. Sure. I could. But what you see great. You think we messed up a couple of them? Boy. Yeah. You struggled on foles. Instead of once we got that got. Ear Paul revere time. See Paul revere. It would be the guy. We would've said the British are coming the British. You're coming. I would've got that right away. Yeah. That's what he was yelling on his rights to Weston. Yeah. I thought it was yelling one if by land. No, he's doing the pressure coming the British are coming, right. That's the polar opposite yelling one one. Trying to let you know how the British were coming one. If I land. He made some choice horse. If you won no say if I wrote a me played a game. No. If you said, oh, he wrote a horse through Boston yelling, Doug, man, we're out of practice by land. You never had a Papu. So it's a Papu. So Papu say is like a corn pancake that can be filled with beings bringing on the sounds good. Talk to her. So would you have in it? I I liked the cheese every morning every morning, I would have Papu. So with an egg on top for breakfast interesting. It was it was Fant it was like El Salvador version of what did they know breakfast? What's the thing? You get a break egg eggs Benedict except to Papu, by the way, a lot of people a lot of El Salvadorians or people with Salvadoran backgrounds have called nasty or tweeted asked me how I loved I loved that. There was a beautiful country. Could you live there? I could live there. I want to clear up one thing that came up in fasttrack that several people have tweeted us about in this from Scott Sanchez. Thank you, Scott just to be clear. The Golden State killer is guilty of killing twelve people raping over fifty women and over one hundred break ins and robberies. They're now using DNA on unsolved cases, he was found not guilty on one of those cases. Oh is that? Right. Yeah. But he was still guilty of everything else. Oh, well, so so I think he's still. Still really guilty as guilty as you can be if anything Michael Thompsons back in here. Michael, Greg Bergman just sent me something that I know I'm astounded by planning about founded on NBA dot com that over the last ten games despite having a record of four and six the Lakers have the number one defensive rating in the entire NBA been watching over the last ten games. We'll the last game was the first time in fourteen games. They've held anybody under one hundred plan defense. Right. What was better last game? Specifically, what were they doing? I mean, obviously callous miss shots that they made it because the Lakers defense. They put a lot of pressure on them they really affected defensively. But in those last the games against the Knicks. They look like they're playing defense. The you know. Against the wolves. Look they're playing defense. Well, who who comes up with these living? Yeah, you're well. You're going to get into with Mason. You hate analytics. Right. There's no sense. They they may complete Senate makes no sense. I I look at a guy. Kenny play on not. I'm looking at it. Let's see. I'm not saying there's not there's a place for that. All right now. Mike, look as audio explain this. They're all games Lakers defensive rating, so high when they have been garden, how do you explain this jimmer for debt is playing in China? He's playing Michael. Yeah. Michael read bring him over here. Second prejudice presidents of one of the problem. One of the Lakers haven't been winning their defense has been. Okay. It's been their offense. That's been really bad over the last ten games. They've only averaged one hundred two point two game over the last ten defense. They're giving up one hundred and three four to one hundred three point two. You think they win tonight? I mean, no, I don't think the I mean, I think they can win. But it's a toss up without in LeBron's. And Rondo it's always every game two toss up. I asked masonite yesterday. I said how much accountability? Should we have for these players and coaches when LeBron is completely out of the mix? They getting paid anything. Not doesn't mean to go out there and go five and two. By the way, calling those guys out the way Luke dance the right thing to do. He got great performances from Lonzo in Brandon. There's a story today that they spent a lot of time on the phone the night after Luke Walton talk to him and said, we've they they decided together we're going to go out and have a big game together. And they did look out. He played part of part of being a coach is motivating player. Push the right buttons any any absolutely pushed the right button there. Ireland was coaching go can you guys piece by little harder? Please no coach. I would've traded everybody. You know, me I candidate, right? I went to did. I hate young players go. Hey drafts draft picks to. Tight draft. Traffic like Phil Phil Jackson's to say rookies are lower than wail, PU wait a minute. He player in the NBA was draft. So if you had to pick this year, and let's say, let's say Oklahoma, call you guys, we'll give you Paul George for that. Number one pick basically, Paul George Zion. Was I on Williams, John, Paul, George? Gimme sign Williamson crazy Williamson dance to be a transformation plan. I don't know if he's going to be, but he's got a chance to be a trans Hong Georgia's. Now, Georgia's nice player rice. Yes year, where is he on your MVP? Ballot. Michael eighth and ninth. Now, he's like fourth or fifth time. I had a who. All right. So number one is either Janas or James harden, LeBron obviously, and it's still in the top four year. Then you got Durant curry, then your foot Padres de both Durant incurring. Then you've got. Let's see. Oh, cool. Why you put them head of court? What about putting right with coli is? Oklahoma City harden harden was over down that list. Westbrook. Westbrook's wait Westbrook seven year statistically. Harden? Yeah. Lebron? Lebron Paul George. Paul george. Hi, Paul George is leading city to the best record in the co is doing in a in in the east. They got the best record in quite there's two quite probably be fit the quad missile out of games to he has by any of the back to backs. I mean, he is now back to. Yeah. I just think Paul George is very quietly lily's look at the thunder record. I mean, nobody picked them to finish. I I wouldn't put them in. But yet foot harden, pardon me, number one you have to curry. Nope. Was Steph Smith similarly points again. But he's misled games games. Right. They've only played. He's got to be there. Anyway. Well, what do we do about eighty because this question scoring twenty nine points again? Yeah. Bought a losing team still can guy in a losing team when MVP no. He can be on your ballot. Yeah. Losing record twenty nine points a game. I think I would put Paul George and quiet head of AD just because they're eating their teams George much better than I realized he has going twenty seven points a game, right? He's seven leads leads the NBA and steals to he's he's a two way player. So as was. Yeah. Gimme Zayn Williamson. Now, here's the thing about dying. You would get for being honest. The book on Zion is he might not be able to shoot. I know he was shooting. Iran. I read I watched the highlight justification I read the question like Reggie Miller Zion yesterday Reggie says that the question about Zion is he can get to the rim, and he has great handle. But he said the what's everybody's saying right now about Yoenis Jaanus is a transformational player, but can't can Michael in your opinion can Yana shoes shoot. All right. Not a so or we share Zion isn't Janas Zion could play shoot are you really downgrading Jaanus as a shoot J Jay has your shooter. But not as a player knows a good player. Great player, a great player without being a great three point shooter at your name is Ben Simmons. No Jaanus Jaanus under Kupo has not a great. And wouldn't he not be certainly topped two on your ballot? What friends were Milwaukee finishes but top three right now. But you haven't been Mace. Trust me, we watch on us all the time. His he shoots like, I shoot to know threes at all and everything outside of fifteen feet. He shoots under twenty percent. Just so good again to the you can't play ten feet off them, and he'll still figure he's he's like Gumby man figure out a way to get around here. Now, you still gets around nine get play like that. That will Reggie Miller was saying he doesn't know if Zion is a complete player like he says, he's freakish athlete. Well, how about this isn't Zion? If we think about it the guy we're gonna see tonight Blake Griffin a hall of Famer Famer Blake rinse gut Blake Griffin like a young Blaker from skills yet and dynamic impact in the game yet all star and hall of Famer Blake Griffin's. There you go. The only problem is Blake has never gone past the second round of the playoffs. So it I mean, Paul George can't hold a player. I mean, do you. Do you hold it against Anthony Davis that they have a losing record is that Anthony Davis? Is full issue. Is it his fault? Or is it? What's around him? I'll tell you next Mason Ireland ESPN LA that is the next stop a world travel. You like any Libor de Galapagos island, hopefully, next take Danes places. Go travel around the world, eating all his executive foods. Now, you have to do that good gig. You do that. Yeah. So all right. So you ask me do I blame Anthony Davis for the pelicans losing. No. Because Anthony Davis doesn't have a weakness. Anthony Davis is a complete player. They that's the answer your question. They just don't have enough around him. But what I vote him for MVP if that team finishes with a losing record. No, it would be unprecedented on your ballot. I don't not in the top five. You if you're the most valuable player Michael in the league, you're you're you're leading your team to wins. Right. Yeah. For the most part he'd be in your top five if the pelicans finished forty and forty two, but a D had a monster offensive year, and led the NBA blocks. Would you put him in your MVP's all pro first team? But not MVP. Yeah. That's the distinct. That's interesting. Let me ask you top five. No, no. Top five right now, if you mytalk five are Hardin number one Jaanus number two LeBron with three I know sonic, Laker home. But he is that valuable still Katie number four and co co five or FICO, I co- I five Katie could not dispute that as a ballot. My pleasure should be in mine. I would put hardened wind up way. I tell you what what what what a screw up that didn't trade for Paul George missing chance who I put ahead of Paul George Yokich. I wouldn't or as a poppy where you not sitting next to me last week. We'll call George score thirty seven points against the Lakers, basically put Okla SUNY and you'll get you'll get the guarded Ingram in the fourth quarter. They didn't let them score nuggets number one team in the west because it Yokich right now may sleep this up who has a better record Oklahoma City or Denver their head of the warriors. I think it Stanford. All right. I'm gonna ask you guys about something. Kyle. Kuzma said today at practice. Once the Lakers are healthy. It is Denver Golden State. Okay. See what separates? Okay. See in Denver. Denver two and a half. Okay. Let's see which you don't if you clippers are only three and a half out it, Michael if Yokich finishes if Denver finishes ahead of Oklahoma City. I'll move joke Trump. But why would you have them? Now. He's like the best enterna- gay. I mean, I think they're no worse than the two seat. Denver. Okay. Sandra? Sandra? Maybe they beat the Lakers worse than anybody. We've seen the Denver Golden State Golden State Denver so Kouzmin told own young Masuku OEMs coming in today. We're going to see how. Says they just feel peaceful. Here's what tweeted once. The Lakers are healthy again. Kyle Kuzma is curious to see a potential Lakers death lineup that could consist of Rondo, Lonzo Ingram Kuzina. And LeBron you've already seen it. What do you think though? But it could work when they were all healthy. But it hasn't LeBron said he doesn't want to play that role. But he doesn't want to be the five and a deathly. Five you'd be the one he'd be the one. Who? Wasn't good defensively. Here's here's well, the Bremen just guard. The other teams biggest player whoever it is. But vast doesn't that make you the five now Basco there are no numbers anymore basketball's become position. Let's but LeBron be the one with the ball. Well, not no question about Rondo he likes to have the ball to real sodas. Lonzo. We'll do you think gets it? Whoever has the ball off the glasses. Go. Well, Lonzo has just Hillman terrible. Let me tell you win this argument. Lebron gets the ball, please. All right. What I just sat down to watch that crap. What? Okay. Let me tell you. What I don't like about that lineup. And you told me if you agree, no heart, they'll heart. Yeah. That is a problem. No, no, not not no. Josh Josh are play six men make up your mind. Hard on the court of replace it with come on pick somebody Mr. coach say Lonzo, well suppose, lonzo's having one of those Dallas type then Ron then rider need to point run over or Rondo take off as too tough. Do you take off if you if I tell you, Michael I'm putting your ever having the best game between Lonzo and heart you? But what if you what if I tell you? Here's your charge. Find a way to get hard in the line at pootie takeout. Well, if lonzo's plane two eight bit against Dallas, I leave him in jail. No, no heart. You have to go. You have to put hard in this coming out if you have to put heart in you have no choice those parts plays like he didn't Dallas and he had the four by five rebounds. And he's lacking. I would take Lonzo out reluctantly because Rondo is just tough. And he's a winner channel or finger men crews were having an off night, you you don't need them. If Lonzo and Ingram can do tonight. What they did any night that they do that. I think the Lakers may me such lineup when Michael night the game on Christmas day, we looked at each other. After the game was over. They just didn't beat the warriors. They hammered right. And they actually the warriors came all the way back in that game are up fifteen. Lebron got hurt warriors. Come back cut it to two one the Lakers right back up to fifteen and we looked at each other and said if the Lakers play like this they can give any team in the west series. Yeah. So it may get healthy lookout. But if they don't the west is so good, right? That there's going to be Michael two maybe three good teams missile playoffs the last year question. Yeah. Well last year the one really good team that missed was Denver. Yeah. But this year there could be two or three Denver's. Yeah. All right. Coming up next is purgatory. Right. We start purgatory now at right right about now. And that means only. Yum, Nick, young Masuku, young Masuku last home and who else Ben and Ben Lyons is the New York are going to join us coming up next Ben tickets to the Lakers Knicks game and the Knicks one. SPN LA. It's purgatory brought you by Dr grant Stevens. Marina, plastic surgery. The latest and cool sculpting advancements cool sculpting leading non invasive treatment designed treat stubborn fat areas. Like your beer belly and your love handles and your man boobs. Visit freeze the fat dot com. And Ben Lyons is here, I'm done. Welcome back, the old fuddy-duddy the father knows best. What are you? Rob. It wasn't name who was history. Yup. And explain why explain why Michael you think been stuck in the dark ages still sixties, then you you brought up. The idea of someone walking into a game with a glass of wine, and you have a problem with it. Right. I didn't never problem with it. I asked how far we can take it can Jose Calderon if he's inactive for the CAF for the pistons tonight against the Lakers. Can you come in drink sangria? Sure, why not. This is he's an active big like a big MARTINI glass. If you come in or we'll look here. I'm in jinking a forty s. I don't see any basketball night. It's gone. So I don't know the story, but that fashion walk is different than sitting courtside and drinking a glass of wine, drew fat. I mean that glass of wine is a fashion statement as opposed to being hey, I'm gonna get loaded before the game. Do you get it from that perspective? I get it from a lot of perspectives. I'm just curious as to why more players now aren't using this as an open invitation to drink more players, not LeBron James. Yes. I mean, he does does Adam silver all of a sudden have to start saying the entire league. Hey, guys, don't come into the marina drinking alcohol, even if you're not playing, but it's LeBron. So it's cool when it's wine, and he's the first one to do it. I don't know if Lance is out. Can he come in drinking pinochle Lotte? Sure, it wouldn't bother me. If I if he knows he's entered if he's dressed in tropical and a peanut Columbia. Zenko he's dressed like Jimmy Buffett. He's drinking exactly Margarita. Really what's gonna be off? It. It doesn't bother me as a fan to see a guy walk and drinking a Heineken when I know he's engine and not play. No, he's not playing in. There's zero chance at play in the game. Right. It's all good for zingers isn't going to be playing for the rest of this can come in drinking, whatever line not vodka. They've being. Well, as long as he's doing to responsibly vodka, by the way, nobody would know drinking a glass of water as far as. What are you a home in it? Just I. Fashion. We will hall monitor in college. You know, the guy down three oh four was up to. Couldn't come in smoking us a blunt, right? Well, that's the case the rules by the NBA standards. That's why. No, it's not. No. It's not a issue. Don't know why. But they test for cannabis, right? Yeah. So that's that's no problem. If he walked in with the bait. Hiked that Ben hike that Mike we're in trouble. Control. You know, you to be a party guy. Curious. Sounds like your New Year's party one time, and you were three sheets to the to become a father. Ben, you pretty responsible could even pushing fatherhood on me. Yes. Because you'll Mariah coupling. Beautiful. Kid have guys reproduce. Really? Well. Children are not going to be Olympic athletes score forty three points on four gerbils after doing big at the Golden Globes on Sunday. Come into the lobby. I'm like, all right. I first movement of the night. I'm going to see who's who here in Hollywood holding court Clayton Golden Globes. I don't know best actor musical or comedy. Was he in the was he at the after party or in the ceremony at the lobby opened the doors open in the lobbies flooded with everyone was in their coming out was coming you and parties is coming from stairs. And this is news to you. You you. The Goldman enough forty three points against the NATO dribbles. I'm not breaking news. It's kind of all over the social media. Ben Lyons world pages that he's dating a beautiful young actress. Okay. So that was probably what Hayden actress. Oh you. Yeah. Really? Okay. So Michael four dribbles. Yeah. Without the ball. That's all Lulu without the ball. Amazing. Forty three points on four drip directly. You're listening to Caspian Los Angeles and the legal ID game. Maybe back. Oh because we're on it through bring that back. Yeah. Yeah. Clay does. Now, are you feeling better about the warriors? They feared everything out yet is starting to play better starting to get the ball moving. And and according to the rule, miss DeVos. Tomorrow's cousins and the back in a couple of weeks and probably when he's down here to the clippers. The Lakers, isn't that the difference? The Knicks come to town and Golden State these guys use it as an opportunity to make history to have fun to reset the ship to get an easy w the next come down here staple center on a Friday night. I know there's no LeBron Rondo, but come on you lose to the New York Knicks. It's really telling there's there's no way you just said, there's no LeBron's not. So is that we've found without LeBron not him, basically. Well, there there's a. Severe lack of leadership. They seem to have found some things to nights ago in Dallas Ingram in Lonzo seemed to have woken up and turned a corner. That's what the third or fourth time. They've played third in their done with them and done such finally played decent, Michael. And I the first few times we saw Donald Trump. What's the big deal at this day? Yeah. He's pretty ridiculous. But tonight, Ben, I I don't know what to think Detroit on paper looks better than they should be. They've lost five out of six. I don't know what what's a good start. They don't have the shooter's around Blake in on. And Andre Drummond, Blake's leading the team in assists for them. So I think Reggie Jackson in the back court is kinda suspect. And so if the Lakers are going to have some success Lonzo ball trick. I dunno consistency. To me is a skill. That is not celebrated enough in life in the NBA is flashes of brilliance. Insurance over the game. That's a learned behavior consistency is learned you grow into being consistent. Yeah, he spotty. You know, he can have a night where he throws up zero. He can have a night where he throws up a twenty. I forget what that was twenty whatever that was in the in the game and can do a lot of different things. So who which Lonzo ball shows up on the night tonight basis, keep salvaging, and maybe the Dallas Lonzo keep showing up, you know, Luke talents, his manhood challenges toughness. So and they responded he and Brandon Ingram. So let's continue to keep challenging at privately and publicly with Phil Jackson. He said, you know, did those little subtle digs to his team to get him to get him fired up. Yeah. These passive aggressive. Knicks taunts are are are really heckle on Friday. You're the greatest time. It was a really magical night. So many memories and to see Luc cornet live and to see old and Kevin knock Franken. I'll just beautiful basketball movie without the ball. Yeah. God takes you back like those early seventies. You to push our Luc cornet asked John Ireland this the just a few minutes ago, if the Knicks end up with the number one pick and Oklahoma City calls you and says give us that number one pick for Paul George mini. You'll pass Zion. Williamson would you do it? No. I said he would trade Georgia's what you hope Zion turns into. Thinking MVP, George is not a transcendent player. Williamson has a chance you can get so much value for these guys in the early parts of their deals in the early parts of there's a good points in there starts to their career. Well, I do we know Zion can shoot gabelli enough. Ben Simmons can't shoot correct. So shooting. Michael learned skill. But Michaels convinced Ben Simmons is going to transform the game. So far, they don't know what to do with him in Philly. What do you mean, you can't shoot? Well, nobody's guarding him. But he gets to the basket will Larry Johnson coming out of UNLV who if you remember the for he could shoot Charlotte he could shoop and not like he could with the Knicks game at three point shooter with the next and then we even in Charlotte before he got injured. He's a multiple time all star he was on his way to decent Korea. So you can learn how to shoot look at Marcus all he shot two three pointers in the next year. Johnson. He was a fantastic three. Michael Jordan was considering a great shooter coming out of Carolina USA back off him and say give them the jumping that that's certainly turned around. Is RJ Barrett who plays on the same team Zion is projected by some scouts as being a better NBA player than Zion. I wonder if a team would have the guts, I don't see a not to take on. Number one pick. I've watched all the do games and Barrett's a nice plan. I take him. But not if I chance to the other difference between the two if you want to sell tickets a storm. Yeah. He is a star immediately. That's right. He's one of the top five, attractions and basketball right now pro or college. About it is would be in position to have the number one pick the Lakers have them next week. Right. It'd be LeBron Sunday Sunday night when he's supposed to be back for that game. Maybe we'll get an update on LeBron on Friday when we'll be in Utah taking on your team and thinking about you look at the team inlaws schedule. Right. And they start this season against some of the toughest teams playoff team. That's why they're just around five hundred Utah back into their schedule. They're going to have a lot of house. They lost Rubio today for two weeks. We'll we'll see I'm having dinner with David Locke their play by play guy and Thursday Utah. You I'll get the low down. You're right. Even for wider, referencing the NBA. The Knicks the sons and the caps, and they all get an equal number of ping-pong. The Knicks have the third pick in the draft picks. Zion. And they'll draft some guy named Kazan. Cam reddish out of Duke. That's probably get get another small third. Exactly it in. It'll be interesting to see it looked the other team. It looks like they've figured it out is Houston. Yeah. Yeah. I'm not. So sure we're not headed back to a rematch of last year's Western Conference finalists, it could possibly to Michael Carter Williams. I saw more. Darrelle Maury is up to something. I don't know when all fires on veterans where there was Joe Johnson or mellow or or Michael Carter Williams. So I don't know if there's another veteran out there. So you're the biggest metal fan alive. Is it is this it is he done? I mean, how does this story in it seem getting on with a Portland or a mid level team that Milwaukee that could use a twelve to fifteen points in play offs or something on a given night. I hope it's not how the movie ends. He's getting rather emotion on Instagram, which is nervous. Yeah. The choices you can make it looks like he just Flom bang too. Well. Michael. For him. The warriors. Could I'd like to see him go there. But the words might be saving that last spot. The of Robin Lopez who's going to get bought out everybody assumes instant, and then they would like to get out of big, man. Like that on on the chief Mooney. Boogie and Lopez the lot of philosophized. Well, we're gonna need you're going to need that if you're gonna deal with Yokich and nor catch and people like that in the playoffs Yokich in very all the dockets. Klink Capella is putting up you probably won't make it because the west is loaded, but Klinka Apell's, but Nepal star as really good. Yeah. Yeah. He won't be. He won't meet the all star though. Not and backward to many everything. Yeah. Nick young ROY last year the warriors head Nick young in that role in some big shots. Mellow could step into it might be nice to see it. But I think they want to save that fifty spot for a big guy, but doesn't this concern you mellow part of the banana boat crew out of the league? Chris Paul part of the banana boat crew kind of broken down. Thirties. Wade last in square skull father time, Ben and who else is on that boat. Lebron and he doesn't look like he's lost anything. That's right. Looks like he's lost ten games. Oh, please. How many precedent for LeBron to miss about ten games this time of year? Well, you bid two years ago when he was in Cleveland, he missed eight games in January, and they went oh and eight and that team ended up in the finals. So we've seen this movie before I mean, LeBron isn't worried games is enough for him to play this season for them to be in a good position. And assume he's healthy come may. But enough games for you to say, okay, he played enough. Because clearly they have a truck they have trouble winning when he time Dennis say, Michael. What do you think sixty five LeBron? Yeah. For this year. Yeah. Yeah. Sixty five to sixty sixty seven. So if he fewer than sixty five sixty seven games questionable. Concerned about is getting this team healthy to the postseason. Now, that's a big if in the west, you gotta you gotta make sure you don't sit guys too long. You met a win not just about being healthy and timing it in the middle of April. But I I don't enough aims along the way guessing if you if you put all the Western Conference coaches online detectors and said is there any team you don't want to face in the first round. They would say the one with LeBron the one with the healthy right last year. Lebron basically got Dwayne Casey the coach we're gonna see tonight fired in Toronto. Okay. Toronto at the best record in the NBA. All right or not in the NBA Houston at that. But the best record in the east, and then they get home court advantage against Cleveland and LeBron sweeps them by himself but series, and I'm going doing case. And then they fire the coach right Fifty-eight game. Yeah. Yeah. Four games. The Lakers have against teams that are under five hundred. We like to stretch they get two of them Utah's Utah's the tough-looking game. Yeah. I think they win tonight. All right. I think maybe maybe not Friday, but they beat Cleveland Sunday. And they'd be. Chicago. Through one of the roughest stretch of the season. They go at okay, see at Houston than home to Golden State. But by then Mace, we get LeBron. Exactly. Yeah. Imagine. I hope boogie plays when he comes down here. Imagine how much fun that'll add to the game mid LeBron back to and you're they're gonna be mad after the way the Christmas. Release a documentary about his whole recovery on Showtime. Yeah. Yeah. He's in a big deep dive my buddy, Eric Newman. So their release that on Showtime about his whole process of free agency since recovering from the injury and yes whole life. Pretty cool. All right coming up next purgatory part to Mason, Ireland ESPN LA.

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3 and Out - Belichick's Time to Shine; NFL Stars Making NBA Money; NFL Top 100 and QB Tier List Takes; Headlines; Mailbag

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3 and Out - Belichick's Time to Shine; NFL Stars Making NBA Money; NFL Top 100 and QB Tier List Takes; Headlines; Mailbag

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I'm feeling good football. I think sufficiently kind of back and rolling at least for a couple teams rookies are now in we're starting to see some videos come out on social media with players around I saw Andy Reid in the chiefs. Because they reported early, remember because they're kicking off on Thursday night saying with the Texans, their whole team of came together today, we got a lot going on. A lot of these opt outs specifically hitting New England. have some thoughts on Bella check and. The kind of the big question marks that surrounds that Joey Bosa got paid earlier this week, an astronomical amount of money and I. Think there was a long time narrative about guys in the NFL non quarterbacks. Making as much as the other big sports. The League is now I think have kind of. Kinda shut that up and put that to bed. then. I'll just dive around the league some stories on just the top one hundred, the quarterback tear article for Mike Sando which I love. Some other signing some holdouts, just your typical NFL drama. And also college football I. Guess We've talked a lot about it won't spend too much time. They're all going to conference only. We'll get into that old probably in the next couple of weeks. Then of course, the middlekauff mail bag at John Middlekauff, my instagram fly in the ems, we answer your questions here. It's the people show. It's your show, and it's how you get on taking on a podcast. We don't phone calls, but we do answer instagram questions. It'd been hard to be like you know in two thousand, twenty tells us to a guy that hosts a radio show in two, thousand, five. I'm going to have way more listeners than you, and it's going to be like this recorded thing that they can listen to on their phone and I'm not gonNA have anyone in, but I can interact with people through my phone doll. Of DM, me kind of like a text message. It would be hard for these radio hosts, fifteen years to wrap their head around what we're doing here. But good thing we are, and it's it's rolling along and I appreciate everyone listening with. I can't say it enough. So if you liked the PODCAST, go to three out on apple and itunes leave a little review. Little Five Star. If you want leave a review, subscribe to the POD and we'll go from there. But let's start with the new. England. Patriots who I think had six players opt out over the last four five days. and Bill Bell Check and I know for me personally and I. Think I would imagine most people listening corona sucks. It has been awful. But. On I've tried to be positive during this time, and it's just as you grow and mature. A couple inspirational books about the right mindset and. It does help for as much as people make fun of like you know powerful Inspirational self-help type books. There are things that you can pick up to just help you out of your everyday life and not be miserable sob. And I've found during corona to be inspiring in terms of my business and having the pivot and think big picture and we were we were doing something might have to do something else think about the way we were doing this not enough video. We're doing a video, you can find it on Youtube right now, we post videos of this podcast. And I think in general and I think most people agree during the tough times, you find out the most about yourself. In the toughest times, I will usually bet on the most talented people. It's why this season which is going to be very, very weird. Football is not built to socially distance or be corona proof. That is the footballs complete opposite. You touch everybody all the time you're all together in small quarters. You literally five guys touch the other four, every single play, the ball touches, multiple people play. If you're listening to podcasts you understand that. But I think the smartest and best coaches. We all know the Andy. Reed's the Sean. Payton's the cow Shanahan's the Pete. Carroll's are going to have the best opportunity to win this fall. Now, ballot check historically the last twenty years. I would have easily put in that sense and I still technically do though his team is dramatically worse. So we had as right tackle opt out. He had one of his best front seven guys and hightower opt out. He had running back. Opt Out. He had starting strong safety, opt out guys opt out. Tom Brady Leaf. But I think he has an opportunity this year one, he's the most adaptive coach in league history. He knows every single position, he could be a position coach. Every single position, he understands every play call where there's offense defense or special teams. and. He is just one of the most innovative coaches we've ever seen. So. If you give me a guy that is given in the middle of a pandemic, he had a bunch of guys leave. He has. He's breaking in a brand new starting quarterback whether it's Cam. Newton? which would be the polar opposite of the quarterback that he just had. who was the greatest quarterback of all time in Tom. Brady. Or whether it's Jerry tatum or Brian Hoyer, it's not going to be an ideal situation. But I think this because Tom Brady, he's forty three years old whether it goes well or not. In Tampa like his legacy is set six walls, he's widely considered the greatest quarterback of all time. It can't really be disputed at this time, but I think just with coaches, we argue back and forth was brady was Abella check bottom line I. Think most people agree bell check. Is One of the greatest coaches of all time. But what if this year with six players opting out his starting quarterback for the last twenty years leaving? He's able to win nine or ten games, the more and more I think about bill? Belichick, who is again equipped for the shittiest time to do the best, we've seen him get hit with curveballs. Some self inflicted like spy gate, they went eighteen and one. Kicked everyone's ass. We saw him deal with deflategate which depending on who you believe. He had nothing to do with it. Whatever started kicking everyone's ass. Again, he deals with it. All the time Brady get suspended wind with Jimmy Winds. Would you go? It doesn't matter. This, to me might be his toughest test. Right? He has a bunch of guys on the team. Most people have never heard of. Unless you're like a die hard college football fan because they're going to be playing a lot of young guys. You know as best most experienced offensive guy like Julian Edelman. Camp coming off multiple injuries or jared did is going to be a starting quarterback. Why couldn't you make the playoffs though I thought all along that they are going to be in the playoff mix and said, once they get cam, if he's healthy, they should be a playoff team. Look at their division. Beside the bills, who do we think it's going to be any good. The dolphins won three of their last five games to become a four win team. Their quarterback which collins has been talking about a show. Ronna show who the head coach Bryan Flora's said, should be ready to go was walking with a limp when he entered the facility, the New York jets who? You know I like Sam, darnold stores a lot to prove a coach there. There's some turmoil now granted, they went seven and nine, they traded their best player on their team for. Draft, picks that don't don't help right now. Now granted, they did get a safety back in. McDougal. But still like. To think that the jets are going to be better than the no name Patriots. I can't go that far. But. What if Belichick kicks? Everyone's but this year and goes wins nine or ten games. Would that solidify the argument with him in in Brady because Brady's already the best. quarterback ever. Could we start talking about bell check being because in my opinion, a yard years. But I, understand the argument people that argue other sports whatever would've Bella check were to make the playoffs and like win a playoff game with this roster with these guys because there's one thing was he still returned all these guys is right tackle. You Know High Tower Chung, his guys along with slater in mccorvey and Ataman. Well, now you're removing half those guys. I actually think Jack has a lot on the line a lot to gain this year and I thought that from the jump. But I, think after this week with all these guys like now I'm good and listen I can't pretend to know. Your read some of the stories, these guys sick children. Grandparents were sick. Canon has been sick before I haven't read anything specific on hightower. But this notion that sucks to play for bell check? That's why they wanted to I. Call Bullshit when you play for. Bella. Check you win meaning. You make more money in life like everywhere hightower goes the rest of his life in. New England. Hey Dot. Let's welcome. Dante hightower three times. Super Bowl. Champ. Three times super bowl champ. Right? Not. Let's just welcome. Let's welcome. Jj. Watt. The Texans. Greatest player. That's cool. But when you get introduced as three time super bowl champ, that's what all those guys in New England that have played for this team over the last seven or eight years are known for champions and championships come cash. That's why you WanNa win because not maybe even short term cash longer. You make money forever. I, know I live in the Bay Area Ronnie Lott Brent Jones Joe Montana, Jerry Rice, and it's not just them. These guys are all over the place Ricky watters. Bryant Young, these guys are staples in this community and on radio, and you can hear him around. Once you become a champion, you just known as that around the team whether you are Jerry. Rice? or whether you're ricky watters, you're part of the squad and you have a ring on your finger in the New England's case three. And I? I'm telling you. I think, naturally, people just are kind of thinking new, England's GonNa Suck, and in times of turmoil, the toughest times, the smartest guys usually rise and I think counting ballot check out in the situation. would be pretty, foolish. Okay I saw something this week. As I'm sure many of you did. Bosa. became the highest paid defensive Lineman in league history. One hundred into. And there was a time. It was the year Kevin Durant signed with the warriors. They had a historic cap spike in the NBA. And it was the only reason. The warriors were able to fit Kevin durant under the their salary cap and part of it was Steph curry was on a team friendly deal and dream on taking a tiny bit less and. It was a unique situation, but there was a bigger picture thing in the league where there was all this cap space and looking back. It was something that wasn't good for the NBA. It should have been over a gradual period of time, but the Union, the NBA Union was very shortsighted and pushed it, and there was a summer where just random dudes. DUDES, we're getting like seventy million dollars guaranteed and forever the NBA superstars like quarterbacks in the NFL, get an astronomical amount of money. But it became I'd say the last twenty years ten that like the second and third type guys, and now the second third guy on an NBA team. If you're really good is like Klay Thompson and he's worth huge money. You just go Anthony Davis, you need two or three elite guys in the win now, but I think the NFL complain for a long period time. It was like the quarterback and then everyone was fighting for the rest now granted, it's still a lot of money and it's pro sports. These guys are making a ton of cash but. In Baseball Baseball game on in the background. Right now I got Manny Machado on. He's making three, hundred million. The giants got like three guys that aren't even any good. That are making eighty plus million, and it just felt like the NFL kind against screwed part of it is the NFL. What kind of injury risk it's understandable and having been in the Front Office I. Get it like you don't WanNa, tie yourself to non quarterbacks for too long. But the simple fact is those days are over the elite players in the NFL get huge cash. Now I'm talking massive cash. Now. There was a period in like the two thousand. Like when Sam Bradford's in Matt Stafford's and the? Dow, McCain Sue and we'd go through the list all the guys those last couple years in like oh eight. Oh. Nine that we're top five picks the got huge money and it through the league out of whack. You Know Stafford has been fine. But Bradford was a good example and people complained well, now, they don't make anywhere near that much money, but they still make huge cash like this year, Joe I and I, think i. I saw ticker this week, thirty, five, million dollars. Cuyler was well over thirty. So when you look at guys like Joey Bosa, do we both the third pick in the draft two, thousand sixteen, he signed a contract didn't even need to Google it. It was probably twenty, five, twenty, six, twenty, seven, million dollars fully guaranteed when when a first round rookie scientists contract, those first four years are fully guaranteed, and then if you're just. Pretty good. You're getting the fifth year option picked up, but there was. A period of time where it was like guys had to kind of play for cheap guys, we're always fighting for money when your top guy. Now you get broken off and just look at his class, his class like the top seven draft picks in his class are GonNa? Go down is probably the most highly compensated? Top seven in league. History Jared Goff, Carson. Wentz, made huge money, and again, these guys I'm talking NBA money because if you signed for one hundred, twenty, million, if you're joey, Bosa if you're Carson Wentz Goff. As long as you keep playing, you're actually GonNa make whatever the actual number. Number is whether it's one, seventy, one, eighty, two, hundred. You know the fluff number that we always look at we go. What's the guaranteed number you go? If it's Khalil Mack, ninety. myles, Garrett one, hundred, Joey one, zero, two. Well, the thing where it's not fluffed. If that guy stays good, he keeps cashing those checks with three or four years. He actually ends up making probably one, thirty, one forty, and then he already made twenty five to thirty, those first three or four years. So he ends up with boom, he's eight years into the league and he's got two, hundred, zero in the bank. But the reality is, is that draft class two, thousand sixteen is just stupid. Good. Gerry Goffin. kind of probably gets unfairly criticized sometimes is offensive line was terrible. He is a solid quarterback now. Is He a great player? No is Carson Wentz. Clearly more talented. Yes. Has Jared Goff probably been more productive, but carson more talented had had more moments. Kind of complicated reality is both of them just making an astronomical amount of money in their direct deposits, every Tuesday when the pays them. Joey Bosa. The third pick in the draft which I thought at the time was a little crazy turned out to one hundred percent. Be The right pick. Good Job Tom. Glasgow, Zeke highest paid running back, Jalen. Ramsey. While he's on his fifth year option if he makes it into free agency. The Rams are either GonNa have to give them seventy to eighty guaranteed or some team is going to make him I. Don't know. May He might get as much as Joey Bosa? He would get so much money. It would be stupid. Stanley is planned this your fifth year option. I'll be honest I. didn't I got a text around the league. I don't know that much about him. He starts on the Ravens. They haven't extended him yet I. Feel like early on his career, a little bit of underachiever. But if you're playing for the Ravens like you must be pretty solid, they're one of the best teams in the league and force. Buckner. Was Just traded for the thirteenth pick and is making twenty, one, million dollars a year. So this group. has done very well financially, but they also proved obviously the quarterbacks always gonNA make big money. If you're good at health, if you're a decent quarterback, you're going to get broken off whether it's fair or not, and I think the players in the league. Jealousies probably the wrong word I mean, it's just natural jealousy when someone gets paid more than you, even though you think you're better football player than them though even if you're a guard or a linebacker, you have to acknowledge their positions but more important. But I would imagine if you're playing with a guy like kirk cousins, you're like I'm Adam Feeling I. Just Go. I'm a dramatically better player than this guy I know he plays quarterback and I play wide receiver. But we're still humans this guy's making thirty million dollars a year I'm making twelve as what you know. But it's just the way the cookie crumbles, but the reality is now when you are an elite player at safety at tackle at defensive line at wherever Jamal Adams and other guy who's going to get a ton of money from the Seattle seahawks in the next I'd say calendar year, you start getting paid like an NBA player and it's taken awhile and there's been a lot of heat like the money doesn't get distributed. We'll starting to get distributed. Distributed at a mass, the cash is flowing and I'm talking big time because you're even starting to see the second tier guys like is Amari. Cooper star market was a really good player. You get one hundred dollars off season and sixty guaranteed. But Amari was the fourth pick in the draft. So he already made twenty, twenty, five million. So at worst case scenario, he never plays football again a day in his life starting tomorrow, he's got eighty five. We're talking he's six years into the leak leak. NBA Money. The NBA Major League baseball money has made its way to the NFL. It's taking awhile. It's a little more complicated more players, obviously, the injury risk, but I don't ever want to hear that anymore. You know because if you're an elite player in the NFL you're getting paid now, can I tell you about my friends and supporter of this podcast landscape Dot Com? They're the best in the business at below the belt grooming manscaping offers, precision engineered tools for your family jewels. Now, listen here, I've been using manscaping redesigned electra, they call it the lawnmower three point zero for over a year. I've had no accidents. I've had no cuts in trust me. I might not have hair on my head I got hair everywhere else and. And it grows at rapid speed. So the MANSCAPING lawnmower three, point zero comes in clutch. I get no nicks, no cuts nob- leading. It's incredible and you can just be really aggressive. The battery will ask up ninety minutes in the water. 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They don't play that player a lot of stuff just like in life is on perception and on just kind of the group think in a League in an industry, we can relate right in whatever business you're in their certain perceptions about certain individuals, certain companies that if you've worked there or worked around the guy, you just know or not. True. I. Think for the most part. The top ten had ten of the better players now. Derrick Henry, I wouldn't put in the top ten I. Don't think there's a coach in the league including. Baltimore. That would take Lamar. Jackson. Over Patrick Mahomes. So Patrick Mahomes not being ahead of them lesson. It is what it is I. I. also understand it from the players perspective talked a lot about it on my other podcast. Look I, get it players, Lamar was fantastic. This was a regular season vote. They didn't vote on the play, the play offs, Patrick Mahomes? A Better player than we all know that every single person listening knows that including Baltimore Ravens fans. Yeah. So I don't really know what else to say I I. Don't I don't really care I. Know I had to mention it just because it was just kind of an Internet story all week. The thing that I do put a lot of stock in. And he does it. Every year is the quarterback tears. Mike Sando who works for the athletic rakes, all the starting quarterbacks. He also includes some backups for some teams like the raiders, the the panthers and. WHO's at the Patriots who have multiple quarterbacks who I know? Teddy. Bridgewater is gonNA start excuse. Me Kyle Allen who's now with the Redskins may was the redskins but teams that have multiple quarterbacks furniture. You Know Stadium Cam now that Mariota's the highest paid back up. But for the most part, just starting quarterbacks and it's people in the leak coaches executives, it gives you what the League thinks about these players, which you can hear what I think about it. You can hear what your friends think about it. You can hear what other media members think about it. The thing that determines how they get paid, what they're worth. A if you're to trade for them what the compensation cost is, what the League thinks, that is the marketplace. So I think it's a fantastic exercise and of course, Patrick mahomes number one where he should be and Hell Lamar wasn't even a top tier player. We'll start with that. I'm just going to list some things. I'm not going to do a full breakdown of every player, but just some things that stood out to me Lamar was the first player in tier two. Maybe, it was the second after Brady, but I think a big element to Lamar inside the league. And heard Mike Sando say this on Ryen Russillo show podcast. If you just ask people in the League, they would say he is an elite football player, 'cause Lamar Jackson is an elite football player. Right now though he's not an elite passer and in big games, what quarterbacks get judged off of, he can't be trusted to beat you on third and long and part of it's not all his fault. It's the way the offense is built around him for strengths. He doesn't have to do during the regular season. It's understandable. But for him ever be viewed as a Russell Wilson patron homes, he's going to have. have. To kick your ass with his arm in big games against top defenses and right now, most people don't think he can. But he's such a great runner. Any still a dynamic passer because when you're running the ball down your throat, you got to commit to the run. Guys become wide open and it's dominate. But he he's gotTa take a big step passing I'm fascinated to watch him attempt to do it. Put Rivers, and bet on this list rivers was way too high to me rivers last season. Now, his body of work I mean he's there's probably five quarterbacks on this list that are better than him over his entire career, right? Like the breeze, Rogers. I'd take homes and like, Russell, Wilson. But when you talk about rivers right now, he was horrendous last year awful. Looked old could move through a bunch of picks. It was terrible to me. He was a bottom like seventy quarterback in the NFL. Top fifteen quarterback. Now, he may bounce back this year better offensive line. More faith in the coach more faith in the organization I don't know but. Last Time I. Checked Keenan Allen Mike Williams Hunter Henry is better than what he's got an Indie. Now, the offensive line is dramatically better, but the weapons do matter and he's a guy that kind of throws up for grabs sometimes in those guys, he's benefited from that over the years and I don't know you know he played two games last year. He's really old he ripped. Elbow. You know. I have no clue to me. He's an. I wouldn't even him on the list out. Put them on the side as just I got no freaking clue. Gives you have anything left him and rivers. Basically, the two biggest wildcards in the league because those guys are good. They're onto playoff teams. If those two guys are bad, those teams are screwed especially. Pittsburgh because we saw duck and Mason stink at least Jacoby is functioning. Jimmy Garoppolo was below kirk cousins. Now, I understand Jimmy Garoppolo is a polarizing player. I get it. He should be. We don't I think he's better probably many people listening I. Think he is a good thrower of the football. He has a great. You know very, very fast release. He's a tough SOB in the pocket. He is not scared, but and he can scramble around key plays alive. He's a playmaker. He'll throw a lot of picks and a throw a lot of kickable balls, but I know this. If I pulled every gentleman during the league thirty, two of them. I would be shocked if it wasn't thirty two. If not thirty, two zero people taking Jimmy, Garoppolo over kirk cousins. Now, I tweeted this out because we talked about on my other podcast. Mike. Sando. Replied and said, well, they were basically in the same kind of group I. Just listed it. It went like cousins Goff Jimmy, and my thing is what I don't do in two thousand and twenty are listen Tom Brady peyton manning. I would say beside like Rogers, Farve? The best quarterbacks I've ever seen an elway away when I was young, he was Kinda old. and. Pocket quarterback has always been a thing in the NFL. I. Do think the way the game has changed with so many great defensive lineman coming in. So many average offensive linemen coming in. It's a huge benefit to quarterbacks if they're just patrick. Mahomes. Really, you don't need to be Lamar Jackson, but you've got to be able to scramble kirk cousins cannot move jared Goff's even a bigger stiff and I like jared. Goff. Honestly Kirk cousins is not bad either these guys are solid starters. You're both a little overpaid in my opinion, but like you can win games with clearly their team has to be stacked, but you can win with them and that might be the case Jimmy. Garoppolo. But I don't know that for sure I. Know for a fact right now, what Kirk cousins is I? Still think there's more to learn what jared goff, but a little like her cousins indefinitely like all the older guys jared Goff is a good example if his offensive line is not good. You can't move. He can't get away like Jimmy. Does bring me that element of just functional mobility and I think you don't need to be cuyler. You don't need to be Michael Vick but I do need a guy that can just scramble around like that's what Aaron Rodgers did forever, and that's I would take Jimmy Garoppolo over kirk cousins every day of the week and twice on Sundays. Baker was just a couple of spots below Jimmy, I. Think he was like twenty one, I. Listen I I. I would put a major question mark on bigger and I'm someone that loved him coming out. But he has a first time head coach. He has a pretty just I mean anytime, you got Odell Beckham on your team. It's kind of like a powder keg. He's not getting the ball. He could get pissed off Jarvis probably one of his most consistent guys coming back from injury, they're adding Austin Hooper into the mix they're adding a lot of new offensive lineman. Lineman obviously their head coach is there play caller. They're running backs are good. There is zero excuse and let me repeat zero excuse. For Cleveland, to not be really dynamic on offense, they should dominate on offense and it starts with him because if you have off great offensive personnel and you have a good quarterback, you should be a top five or six offense. Just that simple. The Vikings were a fantastic offense last year and their offense line wasn't even that good. But why they had a good time, they have multiple tight ends star running back to study wide receivers. Well, the the browns in theory should have a better offensive line than the vikings add just as good a running backs in Chubb and and Hunt. Jarvis and Odell should be as good as digs and feeling and the tight ends. You would argue the browns might be better. Should be elite but cousins was salt. Shaker? Be that good. I don't know. He wasn't last year now was Freddie. Kitchens might have been. We're about to find out. The other thing in the in the article was I think car was the twentieth quarterback on the list. In Marietta was like in the late twenties now, Mariota was atrocious last year and he was injured and I heard gruden today talking about how he's been going through Rehab and he feels like he's kind of on the offense. Everyone in the league like with quotes on Derek and the quotes on Mariota is they would not be shocked that Mariota Start some games this year, there is tangible pressure on car, they draft rugs really. They, they now have star tight end in waller star running back. We think in Josh Jacobs. Their offensive line is solid. They draft a couple more wide receivers in the third round. Gruden is just a quarterback guy that have derek struggles this year and numbers were good last year. But if you watched in the eye test, the numbers and the test did not equal up, he was not a play. He was not a playmaker last year. And they're going to need him in that division. Which I think is going to be very, very good to be a playmaker, and if he's not getting it done and I'm not saying Mariota's better than them, I would rather have car. But you don't pay the highest paid backup in the League. that. If you if you feel good about the chiefs are never going to have the highest paid back up in the league neither will. SEATTLE. Tampa you know new. England never did neither will. Philadelphia. When you have a highly pay guy usually depend on them, and in fairness gruden didn't pay Derek I. Just it's just something to keep an eye on now Derek plays. Well, it won't be an issue, but I think the pressure from the jump is going to be on car to get the job done because Mariota's going to be breathing down his neck. Clear, Tom. Brady. In Tampa. Had A good. They tweeted out some pictures of. Of. Tom, throw, into rookies but Tom Brady does his best work right with. Dion Lewis with James White. You know with all the guys in the mid two thousands. He likes a little running back to throw two out of the Backfield, I mean who doesn't play quarterback I'd like a little wheel route guy that my tight ends and wide receivers aren't open Tom off that Leshan McCoy is one of the best pass catching backs of his generation now, is he still good I? Don't know I. I've saw spot for shady I love PK eighty, but he might not be that good anymore. Now, I would imagine they didn't pay them any money but Tampa Leshan, McCoy, Kinda like that. The Benson. Cova guys, you know that are on that the cove list. The two biggest names I've seen. I might missed some some because over the last couple of days, the tests have been coming back. So the veterans like people I saw people tweeting like Tom Brady allowed to practice because quarterback show up to training camp with the rookies because you can't run a practice in a normal year without quarterbacks. So they always come early. It's like there's a reason you're left. Fielder does not pitchers and catchers show up I quarterback rookie show at first. So Tom has been there since last week. So He's already gone through the testing protocol period. That's why he's able to practice, but I saw, anthony, bar. I didn't read the details whether he has it or not. Lane. Johnson. is also on it and Lane Johnson tweeted out, he does that he had it. He feels fine that he plans on being back I. think that's a common theme. These guys get it again, if you just read a Matt, this is I'm not trying to get political here. Young people get it a lot. Lot of them. Don't feel that. Now there are some that do. But in my experience of the people I know in their mid thirties and these aren't professional athletes feel fine and obviously some people are dramatic. But these pro football players, he's pro basketball's players, get it and nothing really happens. So I mean that's a good thing I. Mean. Thank God things not even worse. and. I'm not trying to diminish corona earning that stuff. Just, got just wanted to go away, but it doesn't feel going away Jahic in way. The JAGS are joke franchise. It's that simple. The jags are a laughingstock franchise. They're the biggest joke franchise right now in the national. Football League not even sure that's arguable I. Guess the Lions could probably throw their hat in the ring but I mean, Stafford, still pretty good. So they got some good players, but they don't win either in Patricia is not very good. But he's holding out, he wants to be traded. I don't know what they're going to get form. It's just a disastrous situation. Just classic Jaguars. And then Vic Beasley who was a royal bust for the Atlanta Falcons I think they drafted him. WAS IT seventh overall? Really high at the top ten. went to the titans this off season, and he didn't show up for training camp. Now because he has corona, not because he's injured, he just didn't show up an unexcused absence, I guess John Robinson. said the media day he's been in contact. He told them like Bro. You're not excused worry at just some guys. Some guys get it. The majority of humans do not. Let me tell you my friends at Madison Reed, and in my late twenties, I. Lost my hair and it was my greatest insecurity in life, and now in my thirties when I grow out my facial hair. Hair, it's no longer the same color and it feels like every month I add three or four hairs, and it's something I don't like in want to avoid, and that's where my friends at Madison Reed come in. They caught my attention because they have gray blending natural color four, your hair, and your beard remember that old shoe Polish look look. So terrible with different hair coloring. Coloring products. There's none of that here. 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Let's Collins Feed and leave a review greatly appreciated. dray. A key member of the seahawks just had a baby. If a doctor tells that key member of the seahawks that it can't be around his new child because he's playing football, that guy is not gonNA play. And the SEAHAWKS will be three and thirteen at best wonder if Joe Douglas thought about this, please discuss this two minutes on the pot. I would imagine you're talking about, Russell. Wilson, and his baby whose name is win W. I n. whereas Al Davis would say, just win baby. I'm pretty sure that Russell Wilson is playing football this year. I'm actually one hundred percent positive Russell, Wilson's playing football, maybe not one, hundred, ninety, nine, 'cause. I don't WanNa look like an idiot of some. It would be the biggest story of Corona. It would easily be the biggest story of corona if Russell Wilson were to opt out for the seahawks. I don't know what they tell them. I don't pretend to be a doctor. I. Mean. We all can read whatever you WanNa read with kids in the corona virus. Russell Wilson, point football. You know he's worked out all off season. He takes videos where he's working out during corona virus in La while she was pregnant. I. Think he had a pretty good idea of what was to come. Given the baby. So I Russell Wilson's playing now if Joe Douglas New Russell Wilson was opting out and did the trait. Yes, he would be a genus. Because if they. If Russell, Wilson didn't play. The Seattle seahawks would be royally screwed and the jets would have sweet picks. But Russell Wilson's GonNa play. Love the pot. What's offered? You use to record the video side of it? I've looked at a stream yard, but yours looks slightly different. What I do is I record my audio on garage band I use my ipad which is set up which if you follow me on twitter I also do my periscopes for at my desk, and then I send it to a guy named Elijah whose genius for Fox Sports Radio and he sinks the Audio and the video. But if I wanted to send the video to myself, I could just take the audio from garage man, take my video from the IPAD and drag it into movie and sink it up. You could do that as well. So that's how I do it in my the most efficient one doing it probably not. I. Would say on Tech Savvy standpoint. I'm probably like. I don't know four out of ten. When Seattle goes balls to the wall at the atom deal, it sends two messages internally to the team that we're GonNa go to the superbowl to externally too soon, beat Ufa's Seattle is a player friendly and when you are fa come here, we value talent might help Seattle get a Ufa down the road just my two cents. I think Seattle's been pretty player friendly over the years. You know they've given. Russell, a ton of money they. Traded for high priced players and paid them. The paid Bobby Wagner, they paid Richard Sherman. They paid Earl Thomas, they paid Kam Chancellor. Traded for clowning. Seattle be place. I was a player, especially, kinda crazy player, and like physical football is a place where I'd want to. Want to. Play for sure. First of all the show mate. Great to see and honest take on the league's news from someone who's worked inside the League. Appreciate it. My question is Ari the chances of the Buffalo Bills, winning, the AFC east in my mind, they are the clear favorites to win the division. I would agree. In the news today of Chung and hightower that may opt out for the season's for further proof that the pats are not going to be a force this year, push back a little bit. But I, I would agree that the bills should win this division one, hundred percent. However, the book still have the past favored to win the division buffalo are paying two and a half to win. This is Great Value Bet And I don't think I've seen. This good of a long time, and my crazier is am I missing something. PS. You guys have a different odd system in the US. Okay. I was like two and a half. I think I saw I'll pull up on. On My bookie. What my odds are. Listen I saw Jim. Kelly said this during the off season? Is that the moment Tom Brady left the bills had no excuse. They were a playoff team last year. And the Patriots are now in shambles. When you just look at the roster relative to what they've been, this should be their season. Here's the thing though they. Okay. Let's Go AFC division ause. I have. AFC East. I got the Patriots Plus One I. Mean One to one. You're right. You can get the bills better odds to win the division than the Patriots I think that speaks to. Cam. Newton. Speaks to Bill Belichick and I just think it speaks the unknown I. Think the odds I'm looking at the jets and the dolphins both eight to one. The Patriots are basically one to one and the jets were one point four to one. So plus one hundred, plus one, forty, eight. I would have the jets to me. Those odds are screwing like the jets went seventy nine last year have a much more established quarterback than anything. Miami has I would have the jets at four to one, not a not the same number as the Miami Dolphins that seems crazy to me. The dolphins are the clear for best team in that division I. Don't care what happened at the end of last season but I'm with you. I, think the bills are fantastic value. I actually, my bet on that before the season starts I'm GonNa make a little note. Bills to win the division actually might look to parlay. That was something bills to win the division. I KINDA WANNA parlay them with another team can get the chiefs chiefs minus four hundred. That's a little spicy. Maybe. The Colts Texans. I could do the bills to win the division and the Texans to win the division. If I parlayed the to. PARLAY, future best never mind. Y-, I'm with you I. I like to bills to win that division as well. That's that was a good. Game my gambling mind thinking. Hi John I'm a recent cow Grad wanted to ask your opinion on current staff including their new OC bill must grave coach Wilcox. Wilcox has shown a significant improvement on the defensive side of the ball compared to previous regime, but the offense has been at the bottom of the pack twelve. The last few years you think must grave is the right hire to bring the offense to at least average in the conference and continue the momentum from the best season since off. Thanks. I think Justin, Wilcox. legit coach you know he's clearly already established his top four or five coach out west. If their offense is good, their defense going to be good like they run a tight ship of defense, they can cover he understands coverages. Their defense is going to be good moving forward. It's just going to be can their quarterback play well and last? Last year, I went to a game against Arizona State on a Friday night and their quarterback got hurt and he can play better when bill must grave was here with Derek as best season, he was on pace to win the MVP. So until he broke his ankle I, liked bill musgrave I, think they run a more traditional offense like he uses a fullback. He's known as a West Coast Guy, but I think he's he adapted well like his hit that year with Derek Carr in sixteen with crabtree and Amari was really really impressive I. I'm a big Fan of bill must grave. You know that Nasty Jim back smell that stinks up your workout clothes and everything else that touches or maybe blankets towels that are coming out of the wash stained and smelling a bit Gimmie from your dog. 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In in college have access to him, and I, think it impacts positively guys and they continue to use it. Sports are no different than life. Right? We all get insecure about things. We all question ourselves at things even when we're good atom. Indefinitely when we're mad at him. Roy Humans. So I think it plays a huge role. Now, some coaches are naturals at that. Are. Just natural up lifters. Like. If you're around coach read and you're a good player like I, I've seen, he's just good at it. You know he's he's a natural at it. I. Think as you know, I, think Kyle Shanahan and Sean mcvay like were just personality around these players. They're good at uplifting. Now, you might want around Belichick or Zimmer, right? Some of the the part sales type guys. Not. Exactly. The same. But I think a lot of these coaches. The Pete Carroll was like might as well, just be a sports psychologist. So I think it just depends on your coach because these guys when you're a good player and you're making a lot of money, you can always coaches doors wide open. Now, we all have things that we may be can't talk about with a coach. than. Yeah. The team's definitely have access to it now, some guys. You know. Have it worse than others? I I never played in the league, but there has to be an anxiety comes naturally sport football. It's not like baseball or basketball. Every game brings a large amount of anxiety. But. I. Think the older you get in the NFL, the studying habits help. It's like when you study for tests, you know the answers in football, you never quite know the answers but these studies. So Much I. Think the preparation helps a lot of these guys kind of. You spend so much time in the NFL working toward the game. You know whether it's lifting whether it's practicing whether it's film study whether it's working on your body. You don't really have that much time for exa-. Now, there's other things in life, right? Your family pressures and your wife, your kids sick whatever that we all need help and to talk through and the team's definitely have and provide access for stuff like that I mean this is a billion dollar industries whatever you need. They will point you in the direction I if they don't have, but that's something i. think that all teams have I texted around. To. To my buddies in the league and the GM's they would say I'm sure they would say they all have that I? Never saw around us, but I never really asked I was just so busy trying to make sure players got graded and Shit didn't get screwed up so I didn't get in trouble. With time to think about performance coaches I, knew we had us. We had great security guard though he's the best in the business summit to combine. Yes, so I appreciate everyone listen have a good week and I'll see you next next Tuesday. And I think we'll be in the full swing of things. Not these guys I don't think wh actually will be practicing, but all that's come back to the facilities this weekend if they all passed the Cova tests. And Start Doing, walk throughs, and lifts and. I mean in a in a corona virus time, we'll start heading toward the season you know typically. I would be headed probably to some some padded practices. This weekend for the niners probably you know that sucks not happening now, but instead of just go play golf and drink alcohol weekend. You gotTa deal with the cards you're dealt. I can't. I can't go. So enjoy your weekend. Hope you do the same and. Also next week. I'm Jensen Karp, and I want you to listen to my podcast from Fort Media in iheartradio called this sports bubble Janssen Carter. I'm a comedy writer die, hard sports, Fan terribly. Miss Boards. These past few months. 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Uddhava Gita Exposition  Chapter 01 Text 28  Introduction

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Uddhava Gita Exposition Chapter 01 Text 28 Introduction

"We are doing well, dug it up the last MRs of Krishna RV will be starting from west wing e onwards today from chapter one. Xuedong Itta Jaap to one. Wooster d onwards? The large said, I have already decided what thou art C or Lord of the gods. I have seen Asia in died work and taken of the burden of the earth. The famous line of your do was twenty nine the famous line of Jadu heart. Even splendor brought on by the strength. And the grow is, is reading fair overrun the world and is one stop from blink. So by me, like the ocean by eight. Sco. St-. To see what was twentieth says, I have already decided what thou art see Lord of the guards I have finished, your entire work and deacon of the burden of the earth. Now when this particular words are being saved by supervision, whom he addresses these words, stoop, he's addressing the law of the boss is he lead? He is see all the guards, you'll have KOMO there, including my much. All the guards outcome to the earth, and they have requested fish nut will come back. Now before this entire episode has happened. Who she was requested by all the guards the ball on the and. And. Etiquette. All the negative elements from there at is all the people was, what NANDA. Right. Is it a member? So so many things happen during the lifetime of fish. Right from the Mahabharata, our zinc, did. And then you have seen she should buy Jellison. Everybody going do his job busted on on the earth. I'm get lead on this enemies, those who are not on the part of them. So that is the reason why he see I have finished your in dire wolf whose job is it huge is Johnson. He's the buzzer, who supposedly radical this earth of all these negative elements. So Kushner is saying, do guards. Lord of the guards safety. See, I have taken care of these tasks have eliminated. All these people. Then he's is western d nine the families line of Jadu, Hoti read the splendor brought on by the strength and bro. His is reading, fair to overrun the world and is only stopped from doing so by me, like the ocean by its sports, the Dumont song Mitch sleeker, schnapps knock Kushner is coming from the dynasty of yours. Yet, deacon birth, India, dentist. Everybody who was in the dynasty. Is it his faucet bowl for the destruction now? Even say that. Why is the large himself destroying is on this? Is it necessity that he is? Who is understand something? Wren something rises so high when the eagle eye Reagan's. Ended up lead lust ability that is is higher. You know, power was to the head of people. The ignoring of themselves. I'm sure you'll remember. I'm reminded of doodles stove in this story. It was a great mountain now might the logical story, so you have to take it like that. So they were to mountains one is he molly's on the nod on site. And the India windows in central. So. He was not that great amount. But because the large steel over there, so he was getting my teeth. And so it started rising, and those to Satele level that he begin nor the yes. Speak of he Molly is callin. Mount Everest there is under Davies Mark Davis. There is karaoke elaborate is so many ladies there in the not the humanity became a very, very strong entity. Now when this happened. We Molly begin migrating did he because of the large blessing. So we said, ooh, what does he think of himself, I can show him? How added something? We also decided I want to show this ablest Amalia. What does he think of I can become greater and greater so he Stockton become? Dala. Dala. On the dollar. I'm game man. He began sore tall. That keeps Gordon dead Saudi Arabia and south, India. Was weighing in darkness. Now this was a time when. Begin ready really strong as it I can be taller than mount as this on humongous. So this created so many problems in the lives of people you see those who stay in a country where distorted night every single day. You know how it is not Narita Sweden in Denmark, and all those listening. Documents. Off. You guys Lynn. I've been maybe often the northern and his yet northernmost part of the northern hymns. Yeah. Never reaches any between became so all. And because it is darkness. It is all loved, or in south, India. Jen. Neither value nor Bangor Weatherly is now become a meal does good. So if you see all Albanian list, and these affected the system these other time, so the guru. Up in Dutch. That seventy. He said, see the problem is the come sold. Dave. Save that he goes, and he says, I have I have to put an end to it. So goes to natural modern digital easy students. So the Mormon the group comes the fussing that you're supposed to touch the feet of the goal is indeed. So we did a bench Don. Defeat of the grew the board did vegetal. The glue says see I'm went on a journey. You're not supposed to move. Now. You just stay statue. Statue in school. It up the statue is still a this only combat. I made the mountain bow at the feet of the goon, and the mountain remained like that forever. So now you understand why did along these sharp of did he molest because of the season starting on the feet of the room and he's not supposed to get? This example will tell you how eagle. Off for that matter. Any kind of thing that is going to make your. Lice higher. And I are bigger factor. There always has to be something Jerry. Jarrett. He disappeared small pinion. Last. Say the same way you see goal needs to be destroyed. All right. And those who become stronger, and stronger, and stronger someday have the fall down on this aisle. How many examples do you want to see him? Some of the greatest examples, there eighteen yuppies that people who became so rich. And so famous. And then what happened? Will brought down to the. Some got. Debilitating diseases like cancer. And they became like children. This is what happens. He now you have won miss stand. This what is talking about the yoga's had become so strong and awfully his race had become very strong involved. They could be anybody captured kingdoms. They could become the king, the Lord of his own numerous it. They wanted. And this was needed. The destruction off the entire race wasn't needed. There was a time when Alexander walked in say Alexander the great he crossed countries. And again, bring y'alls. It is now. Is a dumb nation. The mongo's scheme. Is calm will Joe Artem Zhang is among us kingdom. Where are they? The British came to India. And they said the sun never set some the British empire. For many years, they ruled. Novi likewise. There are countries which want to. All were rule so many countries and become stronger. But remember that? And that is critical. You. How giants? The giants are brought down. Right. Member Samson, and Delilah. The you cannot how eagle and out against all the time you cannot bask in the glory, continuously, what goes up has to come down. So far alum knife, you need one to stand that anybody who thinks knowing of themselves. They're gotta lifting power may become very bloated. And when a person becomes bloated, then need to be pulled down. So whatever is their weak point. That is it that is hit. Destroyed so Hunga eagle should never be mundane. No. You have to be humbled you how we kind compassionate loving kidding at all points in time. Think of all lose people though you have existed in the last under. How many people this many people who you might have heard duty in your time? I asked a really simple question. Some of my students, I think the urine member. There was a quote Ronald Regan boys. It on the people. Ask me all there wasn't excess of a medic somebody, the members he ballooned remembered, I've been handling. Yes. Of course Josh washing he memory. Right. But butane dividend, but any of the? For many blessings that have coming. Nobody in the sand maiming yells. If you ask any child. You know, who is the president of India? Not. They will not know. So I you, you have to become great and maintain ugliness. Now, that means to maintain your greatness, you have to be humble. Not adding it. Humble, you'll be known for decades yawns, but arrogant. Arrogant, you're going get destroy. So I hope you understood the meaning of this was his famous line of Jadu heartbeat would slither brought on by string and royalists is reading fair to all one the word. And is only stopped by green on blue? So by me. Like the ocean bites classes, I am going to this entire Wiest. So we have completed in Westwood nine. We are doing worse are e. Chapter one from new, though. Finally, without destroying this extensive line of the powder, adduce. They will overstep all bounds and put an end to this world was given over a among. Now has the destruction of the line. Setted gone sequence to the bama's Gus, and I shall visit diabled OPR one at the end of this. Redo assist together. Secretion is acknowledging that he's going to be responsible for destroying these bad line of your deuce. It is extremely important for him to do so because they had proved themselves a very hard might be hot again. And they didn't care. So doors who crossed the light. Nine should never cross the line, you might have seen top bosses CEO's of a beneath. Or literally tink knowing of themselves. Now, if they have to remind if they have to do something. Many, many loopless. You cannot be. A letter decent example is of our top. Chairman. See your company? He began so strong in the top to you. And with one stroke. Of this. He's empire was crashed into. Divided into two. He's undergoing a divorce. So what happened to either, but. Fifty percent of the team in single stroke was destroyed. So you can say this is just a warning. This is just still water me. Nobody should be Hoti. Sometimes people have asked me. Why do you allow this person to talk like this? Why do you allow them to become so out again and angry and upset and Bon jewelry? They want. So I always still as your Ross special night. There comes a dime, and yet shell will have to grow Patel. Larry. You see the hall is greater when you are very higher. Is the fog later when they are at a lower level. No, they're eagle has to rise to that level. And then they fall slack on their fees. The fall is greater. So it is only when you become number one, and then you fall down. Allowing the race of the dudes to become so strong. That did hot knowing of them since, and that was the right moment when the rug had to be pulled some. How was it done? Everybody was taken to proposal. Fought with each other, and destroy everything around. Including Kushner himself had. So he says. If I leave without destroying to extend to law of the prior rowdy adduce, they overstep all bounds and then overstepping all bounds. He's. Even have control over eighteen. That processes me become so strong that impossible to. I'm sure you remember, but even in the bible data's very beautiful stories about this. Those are gonna gained. Who became so strong Silla strong so strong that he said, I am going to make a tower so that I get these the guards. Ballot vivid is a very rating. Cannot become so doll. That you can take over the gods. You should never. Never think of yourself that you are greater than somebody else late open on open among now as the destruction of design setting gone sequence, the cameras cuts, and I shall visit diabled OPR one at the end of this who Bush Nuys dealing Mogae, and all the larger bit. See we have already said the trigger that we got his it's to guard lava. And how did it? The bomb, Alaska's. Last week, I was telling you about how Domino's I if it. AP's thaksin. Sometimes people ask you this question. I wanted to this person. These understand something really curves in anger. RV new curse when they is absolutely known me for you. It will not play out. Positively for that purpose. It will not. There is a repercussion and rebounded. So. Just because you are somebody greed, you know about this. Nayla. I was telling a story of LOKI nasty. Inoki as you know, is an odd, sparred, he's a guard from the European and. The gresh gar, and he's always depicted as somebody who is. Not a mischief maker. And somebody who is I does have seen the movies recently. All these big movies the I've seen rookies or thrillers already bags. Is it? He brings about a lot of problems in the world. But if you go to the stories of as Dr. That the places they haven't. You will find that Lookie was responsible for getting cars, hammer back. You're not hot add. So that is his half, brother. So he gets parts. I'm back. You mean to say that it is something bad law? He was lean something. Nice. But. All the guards. His mischief. So they conspired against him, and the Carleen names, I'm their torture, and kill his children. Also, by the deal. Tell me something. Somebody says something to you like this, then is it, Mark when to? The year a lot of problems that percents what? Accidentally look in retaliation. Tummy aches guards are confined him in a deeper place in very deep kind of a place like a mine or something. And naturally is life is within. And he gets the power. See him. And when he comes out of there. After seeing all these atrocities is the Vars has committed. He brings on the destruction of their entire race of guards. And that is called Narok. Okay. Why does. Anybody wants to become so rpm powerful in grinning, the guards remembrance. So even these guards would become so strong involved on and on. Had to be brought down. See him. God that you talking about the missile. Was it is fun? Suitable for blaming the Ragnar trying diaries likely desert in that mythology also push nizing, San team, these people list, because it has become strong. And what, what simple way is it, it's a Gaza Fogelman on one side, and a gun Sephora, great sage on the other side. Night. The mother of the of us remember she had this and another site. Because of the hawkiness of the children. When the siege was visiting them. This folk letty adamantly. You should never be out again. I'll do you know that, that person in front of you is more noise. Indeed, Sydney will be adding and won't haughtily to people. Because he might pull your Intel raised on. See. That's what happened in gives off your the ones. So this for HAMAs us gaming. Lastly, gays spleen pollutants, the analysis the carbide of migrant, Dave. It's a thorough. She dearly. And he brought the Antar is just does the reason brought day there is. So we have come to the end of was at and thirty one. All right. So now we start. So we are doing chapter one from the doggie da was thirty two. So Dave sale being dust accosted by the law of the universe. The large brand Masayuki win. Along with the dogs. Then beholding diet calamities or taking the city of Rodham, the Lord address the assembly within the shot was so until then. So there was one is explaining this entire story, but he's expanding this to polish should he sees all the guards were come down from the heavens. He met Kushner, and they board in knowledge Stein for top of the. And Krishna I dont since then, yes, I am wrapped up. Ricky Watters on everything is wanted to destroy the Wadi hundred. External one Benin, Donald type that is to take this. Everybody's gonna fight me another any other person. And there were destroyed. Them's this has inspecting motion. Author telling them this all the gods sent okay? Now since you already started this entire exercise and that you willing to come back to us. So we are going back through all aboard all the guards leaned a nickel debt of ores. Everybody is watching what is happening. Then beholding dire. Calamities overtaking the CD of WADA, the NAR address the simple in. So then you something that is happening in body. Got of as the land with Kush nine is in dire by is the do lunch easing dot com. Now, those old WADA. Today's work. A lot of guys in the far west of Emil father is it is English up the state by up. But the darker CD, which is there can be. Also, we have a city, it is not the same as gone. There is a temple over there, which was built just a few hundred years ago. It's not an ordained at on the block of each Riach in the moment. Great without data. Is a dark of which no longer exists. Did these Lada was destroyed? See, we're not example is Atlanta's. Atlantis is there again in the. With a lousy of the Europeans that God destroyed in the same way you find it is vodka. Are there many places like this, which got destroyed? Of course, they'll tons and tons of example. L. Hara. Bolanos. Eight. You go to South America. There are lots of cities which got destroyed. In Central America. Those are the land of the gods. And children in Africa. So there are lots of places I wouldn't know about Australia. But issue lots of used. It is completely brought to. One of them we have studied in history books. One hundred dollars. Thank your heart on that. You'll heart of the Bum Yang temple, also November police it. Right. There are so many beautiful places, which are completely brought to wins the into Jerusalem and most of the places in Asia. They have seen the complete destruction in the same plot of ga the original guanaco Kushner, believed this city will become completely destroyed. And what are the calamities that are there? There's going to be under lightning straw, disease linked to date where the diet city and it is going to get subbed Mazda inside deals. Just prior to this was I was talking about right narrow night. This go on the end of the world, by the way. How many of those have happened prior to this large solve them? In the same way, the end of the world comes. Least you millennia as it comes and goes it comes. And it goes it does not mean that the whole world even to blow away somewhere. They're not going to be considered some other. We're not going to become satellites earth is not going to be like. Not going to get crumbled. What happens is that I- who's alludes storms, the ugliest of mine into office? Was walking fire land. Skull, the distribution of these what it doesn't mean that everybody who's. Naturally there. Certain Seve's dusty lying around. So after that, neuron, there are some God, we still satellite. Janos in the scene gets. See all those who have become RT mighty, but off all full and Harrigan the elderly destroy. So the one Schwantz me be men people, those who provide the sea. Never get destroyed. The other leap on the incident. Had I was saying to some someone is. And you know what? Three you guys. See, you doesn't telling first one is this audio right? Second one is the three thousand that third one is that opera. In all these guys. How many years how zoos of yours? The woman has been pulled down. Is it did. Only one you guys there for women to. And that is called a yougov. Golly and VR in Cali, remember where the starting of Kelly's, this place where Kushner says, now, it's the end of lot of the David lot of garbage submerged in the waters. That is the be when a new stocks. The irony Asia's, we call it of the Yuga of Garni on become stronger, stronger. And then it that on the books, which are talking about some beautiful stuff, sue. And it's been another loop where. The different guards is adamant this is this is a Kaluga. You know, the women are supposed to raise the largest Caesar supposed to race. The in that book. Scott Davie him. In that book is mentioned about. The guard assists trying to defeat the demons that I'll latest kinds of. And there have to bring these demons to their knees. But before the beginning of every chapter, you will find the daily to be forced into doing this. Every woman is a our house. Why does she need to be Austin broadening four in the north so that come on? Come on. Come on. Is it important? You need to have their therefore. It has to be Morgan with by the self. This is your you got. You better take it serious, and do something about and Saudi I'm had gone away from the taste. But I hope you are listed, why this Darcus of merging is very important for all the women in the word. So, like I said, in that I can rock, you'll find that some guards were saved in the same way or what here when blotted was getting destroyed. And in all the meals they were trying to kill each other. The issue. One of behind. The women and children were left behind. Okay. I to Juno was under instructions from Kushner mistake all these women and children. Do his then. Now you can see these are this. At the end of on. Route as destroyed a. Women jilin. So did you get it? So. Kushner do. Now I this is the people. So we have come to the end hours thirty three where Kushner was just about to address the deuce. Will w ta Dr one was thirty four. And that defiles. So. The large say. See how the direst gala Matiz are visiting city everywhere, and there has been a inflammation deal goes upon our line from the Romans. Or they would once the must not dwell sure anymore. He shall do fan, the exceedingly. Holy Abaza even thirty there should be no delay. So these two was we will do. So three Kushner misguide MRIs to everybody. He doesn't lease understand. We have gone through the end all this particular yoga the end of the city, the end of the line and kindly wakeup at a moment. You know, those who are very angry and upset. Those who are on the of destruction. You when you try to talk reason, the were one to Don Sali's, because their mind doesn't want to understand anything. Those are no science. You say all that I in this ROY. All the nigga do. Uprising. Nobody wants to hear these. But there is always a Weiss offer reason not to do, right. When the bus in these extremely angry at upset, all when he is pinky of destruction voice of God, which days you. Get what I'm saying? And this large voice sees see how the diets gala Matiz are visiting what is the city we are talking about CDs Lada in this story. Or it is. A lot of as you. What did I agree? Don't become westie long. Get hockey door get at again. Upset not supposed. Getting, you know all the words that I keep on beating in that sun. He'd be foot. So this model wise, you will daily. Walsall's secretion is that more Weiss? Your he's telling them all the other ones the entire Yahoo's. He says, see that on this problem, which on coming the dynasty of the calamities yummy. Visiting the city every. Just like the burning of the room, if you and, you know, the great king of Rome, needle he was playing. And he was thanking gather, he steers. Wow. This is not correct. But at that point in time. The Hsina here is telling the news is beginning. That our diet is of the calamities are going to hit you very, very hard. Because there is a curse, which has no remedy. We should never get got in a curse, which has no Kushner him. Silvery Mylar good at the situation Reza, Mr.. So there are certain gases, which cannot be taken maga- slightly be atas as find each mile. Suppose if I release an economic with what? You know what's going to happen houses of people are going to get burned gated radiations, do this only problems of went to be, so this is exactly our is. It's independent, or damage nor Ben can be done. Likewise, this curse of this Brahmana is nice dating. The macos. Remember the curves that curse is now taking effect in tile in Wakai destroyed. For he sees the bitch, please for us to won't is to us. You know, and I know I was going to happen in Preveza. You know, in all the guys in the gopher picnic, what happens. So he says just go out of peak of. Huzzah. But was I d. By this, whatever it was. He this guy. It is coming. He is going to go off. It was already backed women and send them and it goes today, you so he says. All the due to leave. History. Schadeck point. He says, see if you all go to Preveza. The exceedingly. Holy Preveza even today. There should be delayed. Today. I'm wondering leave you with the sentence. The delay part. The one on when to start my sense. I am wonder tell you how important it is not to procrastinate not ability certain decisions, which have to read, big enemy life, they have taken right there. And then. So Kushner is telling skins men. There's not delay. The stocking Megyn pro. So we have come to the was her defy. Motto, we would start was Turkey seeks. Why is it important already? Would it kill there? Sir.

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ESPNLA Mornings with Keyshawn Travis and LZ HR4

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25:52 min | 2 years ago

ESPNLA Mornings with Keyshawn Travis and LZ HR4

"Things are well at estimate. We're great parole at one, two, zero one, eight, the dangerous Washington state Cougars at home on a walk. Then we went to the Wildcats the AirAsia Wildcats where you nearly blew fourth quarter lead, and apparently it's going so well that you can only take a couple of his great lose. It was so great. We decided to take a couple of days out despite having eighteen penalties for a hundred and some some yard isn't the by week. I understand an opportunity to get healthy but isn't an opportunity to work on some stuff that maybe isn't going well. I mean, they mainly apparently not -absolutely. You take a by weekend, you you look at film, you walk through, you don't necessarily you break sweat, light sweat. You don't have to be in full shales, Apache t shirts shorts. You run around. You basically teach teaching. It's a week of teaching or not, but. Dakota week, two games Monday and they don't need to learn how to tackle. They don't need to learn how to put plays together, understand the flow work on situations. They don't need to do any of that. 'cause they're rolling now l. z. to the rolling in a very bumpy broken down vehicle right now, man, listen, you need a miracle feel. Go being blocked. You need it a miracle. Fourth quarter. I'm sitting here. I'm like, why did he miracles against unranked? Never threats. When anything major teams? What's next? A Mirko beat UCLA beside winds key decided we decided to myth of all this Amine. We on the midst of all this, that we're going to make a decision to give the players some days off in not practice. So we're gonna practice on Tuesday, Wednesday, and we're not going to go the full week of practices prep. Operation for game. There are some coaches could promise you the Nick saving ain't doing this, and I don't even know Nick satement schedule, but I promise you that's not gonna happen. Promise you Peterson going to do like that. David Shaw going to do it like, oh, they go have a Moscow. They would even probably put a Mark game together on a Friday or something. You what I've learned in this and I learned from from Jarvis who was a former NFL coach get too much time on your hands. That's what bad things start to happen. All of a sudden you got a buy week, you free, you can do whatever you want to you leave on Friday, Saturday, comeback Sunday. Take a flight somewhere, bad things start to happen in the pros. What would happen on a BI week? You would have a BI week the you would notice schedule to you get back to the facility so they would. We would play on a Sunday. You had to get back. You had to get back to Sylvie. They got to come in on Monday. You got Tuesday off. You go practice on Wednesday and Thursday, and you might come in early on Friday to give Friday afternoon Saturday off. But you gotta be back into the city on Sunday to get ready for Monday. They need you. Or not even gonna know all of this. It 'til Thursday of that week because they don't want you making preplanned to do any grown folk. Don't men minute was the worst thing ever used be so mad man go around, ask the coach. I mean from from different sports perspective, what has been the philosophy with the coaching staff when you go through a stretch like this as as we just described where say you go to State Warriors and you needed a half court miracle to be. I don't know the Sacramento Kings follow up by miracle to be Orlando. What do you take time off is different for pros than it is for college for college. They're young and you can't assume that they know anything for some NBA teams. If I have a young NBA team the no, we don't get the deal. We do. We go back to prices. If a vet team like the warriors, for instance, I'm Steve Kerr. I know they know how they won championships. I meet Orlando and and Sacramento. These aren't games I'm worried about right now. So we, we miss a visit. We talk about it, but we're not gonna push. The warriors are championship team, so you can. You can feel pretty confident they're gonna figure it out. Do SE is. Anybody even if they were kids, right? They wanna championship not all these guys around for that right young. This is the second thing we've seen so far. The s he's played five games. The second example, the first one was when they decided to change practice and do it early, so they could go watch Sam, darnold fun. I star, you want to support you. But this goes back to my central theme when it is we talk about the Trojans ski and that is that it seems like they're, they're none of so hold me of cells to different standard than it used to be used to compete for national championships, go to the Rose Bowl, compete for every player every single week to compete and go against Washington state. Again, we're gonna get fifty on those guys. Go down Zona. We're gonna get fifty on those guys. Now it's your barely beating these teams. And when you do barely be, that's take a few days. If I was to heal, if I was in charge of the program, they would be practicing every single day. It would be a full week just like as if we had a game on Saturday, we would do everything as if we had a game preparation-wise we watch film for next upon they would get it would be an overdose of Colorado buffaloes. I mean, they would be, you know, you work on by feed it to began. You work on all your mistakes. You take a day, you work mistakes. You take a day, you work on situations, d take day, and you do gain planning for Colorado. Take another day. Do game penny for Colorado, and then you give him the weekend off. That's pretty much it. And the other thing that you pointed out, kids people think about all you're gonna make them practice. Like we're going out there. Full content to practice, doesn't always mean we're on into ribs, man. Yeah, we may not even be on the field. We're in the film room. We're talking about where we're not groups with breakouts, and we're talking about our responsibilities coming up this week and things that we did wrong last couple of weeks we need to correct. There's all lot of things that can happen. That are not taking a physical toll on the play bet. You bet you urban Meyer. He didn't give them. Days that never mind the fact that, like you said, a full dose of Colorado, Colorado's on top of the pack, twelve south your in second place in the Pac, twelve. If you've got an now all of a sudden you're back on top, you control your own Desi to go to Pac twelve championship. This is not just the next game. We'll we got a week off to get. This is arguably the most important game that they've played the season because look, they can back Dory Pac, twelve championship. If you get into it, if you win the south never mind, like minutes Napa week off, no. Looking for stuff, man. L. look out Klay, decide. A fired him last week, so I'm just trying to help him keep his job. Well, if they continue to keep playing away, they play. You won't have to. Yeah, resigned on he'll walk in one. This is just not for me. I think when you when you when you look at it, though they had eighteen one hundred eighty something yards eighty some yards or so imperatives you supposed to be trying to correct that right this the Auckland, four and you're supposed to be cleaning that up spending time getting going through these sort of things. And I understand people would say, well, they need to get out on the road recruiting. Okay, that's fine. Every coach that need to get on the road recruiting, there's a few coaches that need to get on a row recruiting. Maybe you send t Martin says, he's not calling the plays anymore out on the road to recruit a couple of other guys out on the road recruit. They have g. as that are there to take their position while they're gone. So this whole myth of, oh, they gotta go out on a road recruit. Yeah, biggest been a few days in a few different cities. The whole. You don't need to do that. You get you get to a system to the assistant to teach him to walk through. Have you seen these? Always somebody there always someone, the silent at a culture. There's eighty five cold coach, grand systens Radisson that can step up to the plate in due to teaching position. Coach get leave a whole template. This is what you're going to do while I'm going for a ball game. Only in Kalamazoo here comes the tick that dodgers six in a row, six, Natalie, west divisions in a row. This is what it sounded like when they wrapped it up Goto. For a sixth consecutive season, the Los Angeles Dodgers or the National League western division champions heavily tents with a fist after the closing strikeout dodgers the subdued celebration at the mount here at Dodger Stadium, they win the crowd, and they get set for the Atlanta Braves and the National League division series. They are two thousand eighteen and a west champions sixty two row. And I wonder if this is the one that's going to get them their World Series champ because of the way that it went down. This wasn't a team that just cruised into the playoffs that is way out in front of everybody else. It can just roll one guy to the next. It's more talented than the opposition that this, the fight a wonder, didn't get them ready for the fight that's about to start him better. Prepare them for World Series push and they're healthy, which is important. Like our pitching staff is healthy per healthy, rich HALE fingers are all intact. So a scene as were going into the postseason confident because we are battle-tested and I noticed sounds ridiculous. Because as you mentioned, we've won five titles already. Last season was a miracle season. Someone if you among the best regular teams of all time. But when you have to come up the rough side of the mountain, you enjoy the view a lot better and you gotta -ssume that when you look at what happened, we me gotta let him. The rough side of the mountain. Better view. Because you had to work so much harder to close. Just take it simple. Got it. Elsa. When you're spoilt and you're like, Spall kid. Same. Could relate to that? No, being. Because I don't go into the mountains. Let me know. You get back. Much like Travis was saying, no, they're going to pre. She ate this when you went six of them in their coming to you so easy. You just rolling through thing. You're like, oh, man, we got this handle it. You don't muster down it. Take advantage of it. Going on. Today. I mean that I didn't know until about an hour or so ago that apparently Keyshawn doesn't like a word. He just changes it. So he doesn't like the word hunker. So you don't hunker down. You mustered out mustard. I didn't know this, but this. How do it here? I learned that Gundy's my Greg regret. You go by the way and the life lessons. Appreciate this opportunity now to get back into the playoffs because of the fashion in a way that they had to do it. They struggled to get there. It came down to a game yesterday in a five, two win Walker bueller allowed. Just one hit and three walks in six innings, scoreless innings. While striking out three Beulah I eight pitches were fastballs. You'll slow over there. Okay. Gotta wake up more and got the slowest traveled. Ninety seven a slow, Oregon Impe h miles per hour, two miles per hour. It is the one, two punch a Kershaw and Buehler can control their destiny as far as pitching because they'll pitch. You got to set up where Kershaw go one really to re U2. Buehler Buehler three. Then we'll move into the next year's. Hopefully it at that point you get back into Kershaw even if it's not your back into Kershaw, even if it's in this series, you're backing you go retail game, fourth native, yeah, I would. I would. But then you've got Kershaw and five if you need. To do that too. So important part of them eventing getting their Cody Bellinger imacs Muncie provided much-needed offense with two run homers both Dungs not just homers Deng to to to Dong to run dogs and helped it out as well with the RBI single channel. Travis. I understand. I'm familiar with the terminal. Kaley Jansen did his job by closing things out. Although he had a lot of spook in the top of the nineteen us dodger fan. You could say, I was fair keys. Foregin update brought to you by Buffalo Wild Wings. Wanna win a trip to see the series. Just go down to dubs and upload a selfish, Instagram, Facebook, or Twitter and hashtag WW LA that's w. w. l. a. good luck from Buffalo Wild Wings. I don't wanna stand while you. So anti immigrant, I immigrated into ads. Dodger me the dodger LAN. You cannot say that on here. I was like, wait a minute. Hold on. Dodger. That's true, but I greatly to. Was not use to tell some political stuff. Just making sure. 'cause I know a mean, you know a little stuff going on here, the deal the when the complaints come in, come about the show. Kice out. He's on the grid. Right. That'd be the sound bite, but the dodgers Amine took care of business yesterday and they will appreciate you know when you've been, you've obviously been dealing with professional sports for a while. When you look at teams like the gold point to go the state because they're been most recent successful NBA team and terms of winning consistently, but into the course of the season, the it slows down form some because they get complacent. It just becomes, oh, we did this before we know what to do. Turn it on. Turn it off in a dodge case. I think the dodgers Travis been there before hadn't won in realize we can't just do that anymore. I think the big thing is that they lost in game seven at home. Yeah, I was there. So that that sticks with you, right? But like you said that it stick with you in may when you're playing like a, you know a theory, the twins, you don't care about those, right, but now that the stakes are more defined, win this loses and we're going home, run on a, we're not ready. This thing. And I think now I think that's when that experience kicks in the regular season, not so much, but now it's winning time. It's money time. This reminds me of the year that Amari start out with Phoenix, knee injuries, knee injury, and the sons had a fine away to keep winning losing that horse. And it was a successful season. Steve Nash one second VP, but it it took more work and was more effort into that particular appearance in Western Conference. Mine was much better than previous you when everybody was healthy and everything was going, right? Yeah, no, it was. It was. It was something where you couldn't just roll up out of bed and we like we had the game plan every night, and if we execute our game plan, we want him. We didn't. We didn't. And so yeah, I what you're saying like when there's no margin for error, right. Basic xactly dodgers coming into this into the postseason when they're gonna open against it land on Thursday night, they have almost a perfect mix of things that you would hope for going into a series with one exception. You look at it, they've got experience which we just talked about and they still have a great deal of hunger because of what didn't get done. Last year, you lose game seven. So he got both of those covered their starting pitching is good. Their offense is what it is they hit a bunch of home runs. They're gonna get you eight one night. They might get you to the next. It's a little inconsistent, but they have the ability to score runs in any given moment. They have depth they, I don't care what position as you can roll a right hander. We gotta line for that. You're on a left-hander. We got a guy for that. You wanna match up batter batter pitcher to pitcher. The dodgers can do that. They're healthy like you talked to a really across the board. They're about as healthy as you could hope for the piece that's missing is the guy at the back yet. Is is gone from an a plus, a guy that comes in their three guys cutter cutter game over California love, throw the party to. All right. Here we go. He's best option. I don't understand. He knew he was on national television. He did after the drama wanna live face. Casey certainly got high ratings. Exceeded drama because he got cut out by me like. But I, you know, I, I don't think he's done. I think he's okay. I just think that in the situation when you give him the ball, you expect for him to just dominate to the point of Mariana revere will maybe that time has passed, but he's still affecting enough to get it done. So you need to be able to give him a cushion. Cushion. There's traffic to one Mario Rivera would have rather pitched tend to Ueno no one, we don't. Nobody don't want no one, no one cared enough to ask them to two one, two to two and three to three and all at three, two, two, and you bring any me he gave to Jack's. That's what this stuff is more important than ever. And I don't know what the stuff is at this point. All right. A hall of Famer says that the Steelers should not welcome Levy on bell back. We'll get into it next. So week, four of the NFL is done Rams and chief. So the only two. The Steelers are off to a pretty crummy start. They've only won one game. They had a tiger Cleveland. Well, yeah, they needed a some help to do that Levy on bell. Still not back, but he saying that he is going to come back and reportedly is gonna come back sometime week. Seven eight. The Steelers on a bye in week. Seven and at least one hall of Famer. Steve Young is saying that the other guys inside that Pittsburgh locker room should not welcome back here. Steve Young eight, I get it Earl must get paid and get paid. We give people a couple of weeks but half a season and now you'd announced two weeks. I'll make my emergence. We're gonna have a parade or we're gonna try to at some point. You gotta rise up as a group of people. What so come good. Don't worry about. Don't decide when you're going to show up. Get in here and help us don't come come in a few weeks. No sense. Why would anyone not want one of the best players in the league to walk back into a group of people, depression. Levy on bells where the best players in the league. He's coming back. Great, can't wait. Let's go, let's go win games. Yeah, me like, I'm like Steve dough at the end of the day. I'm you coming to lock whom you could play in the huddle. I'm fine with it. I don't care less. I could care less that they pay. You don't pay preferred him to pay because I like for everybody get their money. But at the end of the day, if I would be food to think that James Connor is better than Levy. I'm Bill and I'm trying to get to the Super Bowl, be crazy to think that. So I wouldn't. Discourage him from coming into the locker room. I would encourage him to come into the locker room. Then I'll deal with him personally how I would deal with anybody else that I just don't fool it. I play football playing football, but why? Why wouldn't you fool them like what? What would what would be the the issue? That's what the part I don't get well, meaning when I'm saying, why don't you? We're trying to use another word other than the word that we want. Why don't they mess with them? Like, what's what's what they're set out hard failure. Some hard feelings that went on a month or so ago would number of players in the locker room by him holding out a training camp and then not coming in after training camp was over and everybody -ticipant him coming. And he said nothing in any hill now when they all assume based on a year ago. Oh, and trying to come over and he was telling them, I'm, I'll being on Monday. I'll be in on Monday. Okay, disappeared. So so it's more you said one thing you did another? Exactly. Okay. So if I feel it when I'm in that locker room deal with you almost lost to the Browns. To help you get man. You don't have any space right now to hone your nose because someone hurt your feelings. You know. So funny about all of this is you look at it two ways as as a former player that hailed out. To hold out more selfish, whatever you wanna call. I look at their automa- situation. He's got a broken leg. Now you'd think that the Seattle Seahawks looking to do an extension. Is not something to be said for the players, and I'm being devil's advocate here because this isn't what I am, but if I'm Steve Young or maybe I'm one of the the, the Pittsburgh Steelers players, and I'm looking at it. We're one two and one you look at the Bengals who are three and one. You look at the ravens who are three and one and Omar ready way behind. I had a game with Cleveland. I didn't win that game, and now I need my best players. I'm gonna get back into this. Why are you waiting three more weeks to come come in right now? I get it. You wanted more money. Them in now, and I don't know all it is, but I'm sure there's something that's triggered something if he comes in at a certain time, whether it's torch VA gency or whatever the case may be. So I did read this that he's got to get in there by week. Ten. Yes, yeah, to to get paid. But before the by and that's why he's gonna get paid for the by week. It's actually really smart. When you think about it, it's really small, but Travis to that. I always say then, why aren't the players met at management for not locking up our one of our best players if not our best because they are. They are mad at management in a already screamed at management several times and told them, but management don't give you management lies. Well, well, we gave him extension. We offered him this. Yeah. Exactly they, they blow you off and go. We took care of that. I just, you know, the thing that's interesting and I haven't heard any comments of Steve Young has said prior to that, but it just seems interesting that when to me, the real culprit is structure of of compensation in the NFL and the question about whether or not you know, the franchise tag is actually in prohibiting guys, maximizing how much they can make or whether or not this fifth year option six year option with rookies is preventing guys making this much money as they possibly can. He chooses to attack the player who's actually being handcuffed, but it's unfair compensation system. Well, he kind of talked about this. The quote that he had on Monday was it sucks having to sit out of football. I wanna play. I wanna win games in the playoffs, but I've got to take this stand no in my worth, and knowing I can tear ligament or get surgery. Anytime I knew I couldn't play sixteen games with four hundred or more touches. And then you talk about thorough with what happened to Earl Thomas. I get that he's. Protecting himself, but is there a stand here or is this just purely a selfish move because it's not going to change? No, one else care Richardson, yes. It's care. His. And that's like self Michigan. Be self sometimes has a negative or Muslims the negative connotation, but there are times to be selfish and that's l. one, no one else is going to do this for no one else is gonna care about and guys it is locker room in around the league should never speak on his contract, and he's situation that just doesn't. You'll handle cars always for my entire life in professional sports players. When it comes to money, they don't get in other people's pockets. Get yours? Do they know one day it might be. Is going to be you one day. So this situation that the weirdest thing to me to see how many players because they don't like him. What is like Steve, what? Steve Young's former play. Why would he say? Yeah, we'll stick. There's a whole school old girl z. Steve Young is not one to one. Maybe I'm Bill is not his running back. So Steve is talking care about that hall of fame, Steve talking. So with Ricky Watters was sitting out when he was playing it had the same issue and it was one to one that look like getting ready to go one three and one Ricky wall game. People need. Steve already played again, you know, it's easy to get on television and say, some of those things. I mean, just seem though the fact that they're talking about is money the that there's something about levian specifically that people are willing to say some things. I mean, I don't know the guy all an unlikable dude. I don't know if he's unlikable, but I will say this the way that he's been raiding around have rap concerts dropping releases. Wrote me a stern way, any applied for Dairy Queen, something like that. Shoulder entire franchise, which includes me too. So I'm not sure if he's not likely for, but I personally would not like if my star player was holding out for money and dropping hit, singles. What. Working on these shape and he's ready to go. Why do you care? It's what he does because he's doing the same thing. He's on the same thing while he's not there his if he was there, he's going to go to clubs. Clubs. You think all of a sudden he just started blowing money at the strip club a month ago? No, no. I'm just saying. Moment in which almost to Cleveland Browns see him on the ski down. Yeah, just a little bit, which is LeBron James. Staple center tonight with the Lakers Stephen, a Smith is next. It's morning show have fantastic morning.

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Better Rivals Ep. 284: Rewatching the 1994 NFC Championship Game

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Better Rivals Ep. 284: Rewatching the 1994 NFC Championship Game

"Borderlands is back shoot and loot your way through mayhem field adventure. And borderlands three blasts through new worlds and enemies as one of the four new playable volt owners each with deep skill trees abilities and customization play solo or with your friends to take on insane enemies score loads of loot and save the galaxy from fanatical threat. Mayhem is coming September. Thirteenth on PC Xbox One and PS four preorder now to receive the gold weapon skins pack at borderlands dot com. Welcome to this week's edition of the Niners nation dot com. Better rivals podcast. My name is Oscar apprecia-, and this week, who would have thought that in one game, the US women's national team would score over four times as many points as the Rams did in the Super Bowl. The forty nine dodge that hard knocks bullet yet again. It'll be the Oakland Raiders this year. And with me this week to elegantly walk us through all of the physics of an RBM K nuclear reactor. David Newman look is there supposed to be an equal number of red and blue. And right now, there's a hell of a lot more red than there is blue, and that's a problem, which basically sums up the entirety of USA Thailand because it was a whole lot more than it was blue in that game. Yeah. They're quick hot. Take thirteen zero should the US women's national team of backed off? No doesn't. I mean I, I saw like bits and pieces of this whole thing on on Twitter. Like, I haven't washed any of it or anything like that point or goal differential, like plays a role in. Yeah. Cd and stuff like that right now. So of course you don't. Yeah, it absolutely does. And yeah, I think I think much to the women's national team credit. They said the right thing they said, no, it would have been patronizing to sit there and play take away from them. Yeah. Also, they're professionals, like it's that whole thing like if you don't want them to score, then maybe you should stop them. There's a really good article and I think the ringer talking about how the problem is not with a thirteen zero score, but how a team like Thailand even makes it to the World Cup because their structural issues with women's soccer, that allowed something like that to happen. And if countries invest more in their women's sports, then you wouldn't have something like that. But the other thing I wanted to quit with talk about before we get to the rundown is men. Can we talk about Canadians, just destroying fandom stereotypes with, like the speed of Thana snap of Kevin Durant's achilles. Because it's game six tonight. We're recording this relatively early for our tastes. Because I've watched the game. And so it it like how, how are Canadians are supposed to be the nice fans? How are they going to sit there and cheer for a man? It's clearly injured now. We know of course, has ruptured achilles. And they were even yelling at Steph Curry's mom after the game. I mean it is a strong break from stereotype. We'll say that. But maybe secretly Canadians are just all bunch of assholes. Yeah. I think I think that's probably it all. Now, the other thing you've got to tell us why you're drinking hot water out of a mugged right now. It's t-. Yeah. If you can't tell not exactly at one hundred percent right now from a health standpoint been dealing with a cold. So I apologize for the nasal terrible sounding voice that you're going to have to deal with for like forty five minutes. Y'all David Newman doesn't just sit in a dark cave and watch football all day. He this is what I get for going outside. Yeah. He goes outside for like twenty five seconds. And this is what happens. And he's putting his life on the line right now for you. It's a struggle. This is my Jordan, flew game just want you to know. All right. Well, Jordan flew game. It is. Let's get to the rundown because many campus officially done, and we're relatively injury free, except for of course, the annual bone break from Jimmy ward, which technically happened in OT, as so many camp relatively injury free. Jimmy Garoppolo took one count at one full eleven on eleven snap the defensive linemen and we're not supposed to rush the passer they did. Anyway, because that's what defensive lineman do. So Cal Shanahan, promptly takes some view nice. I like the approach. Yeah. Who cares? Let's, let's keep him upright until at least training camp. Exactly. So he'll now of course, Garoppolo be working with Tom house in southern California, as well as bringing a couple of receivers with them. How much money do you think Tom house makes from all of the quarterbacks that he helps in the off season? I'm going to say more than he's worth. Yeah. That's because Tom Brady has paid him lots of money and continues to pay him money. Alex Smith is paid of money, and now Jimmy Garoppolo pay the money. I feel like Philip rivers has worked with them. I feel like he's worked with just about. Yeah. I mean with so many. It's such a weird industry to the whole the whole quarterback like training industry is like, yeah, I don't know. I'm, I'm sure in obviously, he seems to be one of the actual good ones getting all of these, like top NFL quarterbacks to be able to go and train with him, obviously, there has to be at least some sort of value that, that he's convinced these guys that he's providing there. But yeah, the whole thing is this, like, super shady, there's a lot of like bad shit out there with that. Hey. Wait. How am I going to get my nine year old scholarship to USC if not for Tom house is really what I wanna know fair. So during minicamp, not as there's really not a lot to bring you. They're not in pads. The reporters can't even see a lot of the sessions, but it's always interesting who is up in reps, who's with the first team was the second team, that's probably what you can take away from this, and especially early on in training camp. What you should take from that as well. Couple of tidbits about the minicamp, that have come out over the last couple of days. One sherman. British German was out due to NFL PA engagement or something along those lines. And Greg Mabon took the first team snaps instruments absence. Of course, you've got the injured or recovering, Jason Barrett who's injured. And so he couldn't be out there. But interesting that Greg maven just can't just can't quit him. Just can't quit him. It's fine though the cornerback depth is fine. Yeah. Antar various more which I think is also interesting stayed with the safeties despite the lack of depth of the cornerback position which leads me to think that at least this. Year. The team has kind of committed to him playing safety. Right. You again, I think is good. I don't think there's any purpose to moving him only to move him back, unless it's like an absolute dire situation. Right. Was like Mike mcglinchey moving to guard because we have no guards left type of thing. That's scenarios, like the only thing that you should move him away from safety. If that's what you want to commit him too, because it just it doesn't do him any good from a development standpoint to bouncing back and forth like if you think that okay, maybe we made a mistake, moving into corner, we're gonna bite that bullet after one year. Let him stick it safety like that's fine. Just keep him there, Marcus Goodwin says he wants to compete in the Tokyo games as a long jumper. David are you concerned at all now? I'm not the only thing I guess is that if he does make it, he would miss it can flicks with, like, the first piece of training camp or like a trial, or some kind of maybe competition competes with that. But whatever man as long as it doesn't get injured. I really couldn't care less. Yeah. I think especially like in this situation. It's, it's like it's not like he's new to the team. Right. This is third year on the offense. So, you know. Obviously, it's never you wanna have those reps if he can Ryan, it's, it's great doesn't hurt anything. But for a veteran player obviously, he's going to be staying in shape. He's going to be working out. So I mean that's not going to be an issue. Yeah. I don't think that there's there's much there that he's going to miss from, like installing the offense and stuff like that. You miss out on some, some reps with Jimmy and stuff like that, that might help with timing or whatever, but you can make that stuff up on big deal. Final story is that Robbie Gould won't be at many camps, and the team is unsure when he will rejoin the team, he could just waltz in like on Thursday before week one and be like cool. I'm here. And I think you should have just left it as, as you have the note in here. The team is unsure. I am also just I'm sure I don't mind if anyone position can come in with just like a few days, a few days with the team, maybe like cigarette in mouth and have an impact, it's probably a kicker. Yeah. I don't even care if he shows up all it much h yeah, I know you're, you're you've been out on kickers since we franchise them. Just go for it on fourth down. Honestly, who needs a kicker? We'll get there soon. David newman. We'll get there soon. But now we get to what we're going to actually talk about this episode. We're entering into the NFL dead zone where people who cover the NFL take vacation. And those of us who don't take vacation or perhaps already took it need to find things to talk about. So we thought it'd actually be fun, not to kind of find some random hot take to discuss, but actually to go back into the archives and take a look at some of the historical games that were either important to us, and or games that we wanted to take a look at from NFL from forty Niners history. Specifically and the first one that came to mind was. The nineteen Ninety-four NFC championship game this game for me was a really really fun game. I remember lots of things about this game. I don't remember nearly as much as I thought I did. But it was definitely a fun game. And it was the game where one of my favorite players Steve. Young finally got over the Dallas Cowboys hump. So I thought why the hell not the games on YouTube? And so we went back and we watched it. And now we kind of helped break that down a break that game down here for you. It's, it's wild man. It's going back in like I mean I was seven years old when this game was played I in so not exactly on top of things and so being able to go back and watch these old games with the knowledge that you have now is, is such a different experience like the things that you remember even being just a kit. Like you're so different. Right. Like is we'll tell you what. You like Jerry Rice was not very good in this game. And they're like, blew my goddamn mind going back because this is not a thing that you really like remember. Yeah, Jerry Rice, and never, ever dropped a pass in his life. Yeah. No, it's not a thing that happened. How can you couldn't even believe they let him into a hall of fame after the first half of this game due to for me it was the I, I remember that game as just about a out like I don't remember Dallas ever really being in that game? And there were several instances in which they were clawing their way back and things could have taken a turn really not the forty Niners favor. I think for like maybe the final like it minimum for about the final three maybe even like three and a half quarters. It was it minimum even in like you could probably make a solid argument that Dallas played quite a bit better over that stretch. But it was just such a uphill battle to overcome. So why was this game so important? Why was it such a seminal part of forty Niners history? Well, you have to put the nineteen ninety four season in context, and really the nineteen Ninety-four season was all about beating the Dow. Cowboys. The Cowboys were back to back champions and both years, they dispatched the forty Niners in the playoffs in one thousand nine hundred to the Niners were fourteen into and lost thirty to twenty two Dallas at home. This was the game that Steve Young spends a lot of time in his autobiography on. He doesn't spend time on the ninety four game. And even the any three games it was ninety two game that really like chapters ASO to speak, if he would say, such a thing, although those words would never leave his mouth in nineteen Ninety-three. They traveled the Dallas suffered another defeat and really at that point, the rivalry was at a fever pitch. A lot of the defenders during that game wore shirts that set fucked Dallas to the stadium and Steve Young yelled at them, and ordered them to take the shirts off. We don't use that kind of language. Well, he didn't want to give them more bulletin board material. Yeah. Because apparently Charles Haley made it a mission to kill Steve Young every time they played the Niners and he didn't wanna die. I mean, fair I can't blame him for that. Yeah. It was it was. It was. They weren't exactly like in a position to be like talking all that shit. Yes, point. Right. So the Niners geared up and they went out and effectively bought a defense. There were twenty seven new players on the forty Niners roster for the nineteen ninety four season. And this was just the beginning of the free agent era. So this is one of the few times where player movement was actually able to happen. Dion Sanders was signed two games in the ninety four season. I forgot that he didn't start the year with the same. Yeah. When I saw that none, I was like. Oh shit, right? Because he was playing baseball right? Yeah. And so, again, Markey's Goodwin. You can you can do the Olympics thing to your thing Ken Norton from the Cowboys. Of course Rickey Jackson from the saints another player, I had forgotten. He was with the dome patrol. And he's just out here with the Niners fun fact about him his base salary was one hundred and sixty two thousand dollars he would have gotten and he did receive an eight hundred thirty eight thousand dollar bonus for winning the NFC championship game. That is a wild bonus structure. Can you believe that as a player saying, like you're actually? Gonna put that in the contract. How confident do you have to be that the team is even going to get there? Right. Let alone win that game. Yeah, that's insane. It was like seven times his salary for the entire season from this one game. Gary Plummer, Richard dent from the bears. I mean, they basically came out and said, we part of the reason they couldn't beat the Cowboys wasn't because of the offense. It was because of the defense. And so they went out and they bought a defense and early on in the season. It wasn't all roses, had Joe Montana, Steve Young and week. To of course, Joe Montana was what the chiefs at this point. Joe Montana beat Steve Young dude. I do remember as a kid being so conflicted about that game. This is like you grow up. And you know, my dad was a huge fan. And so you, he's like more Joe Montana era guy. Right. And so you like you hear all these stories like Joe Montana's, like your hero. Whatever like he's the greatest thing that's ever existed. And then all of a sudden he's like not with the Niners anymore, and he's like on this other team. And you're just like a kid trying to figure out who do I root for here. Yeah. Yeah. It was. It was. Well, yeah, I was very much very pro Steve Young. I was like I had missed the whole Joe Montana thing. I I liked the Niners and obviously, my first Niners shirt was Joe Montana shirt, but I was all in on Steve Young. I was like, man get out of here, Gobi achieve your old. Yeah. It was one of those things it was like men, like I guess, my, my cold, heart really started to develop them, it was like, man, you got to let them go year early. And then you're really gonna you're late. I can I can imagine myself as like a child of nine better early, but the, the real clincher for the season, especially the early part of the real shitty part of the season was week five against Philidelphia. That was the turning point of the season because the Niners got completely destroyed in that game so much. So that Siefert the head coach pulled Steve Young something young took very, very personally and proceeded to let everyone know just vociferiously yelling at everyone. Dion Sanders had a hold him back. I mean this was a turning point for Steve Young and the team I love that. They showed in the broadcast yet, like clips of young screaming at kubiak on the sideline which was this great. Yeah, it was. It's funny to see some of those coaches because. Biak. Yeah. And of course, Mike Shanahan, the elder Shanahan and see for it's interesting to see how those legacies and those people have kind of grown since then. But fun fact about that game. There was a running back who made his debut for one hundred and eleven yards and a touch. Down for the Philadelphia Eagles name that running back future, forty Niner future forty nine oh. Not Brian Westbrook. But the guy that was Westbrook like we're Westbrook up. Can't think of his name number twenty five. Was also an a raider. Driving. Crazy. Tell me Charlie garner. There you go. There you go. Yep. Yep. So that game was pretty much a disaster for the forty Niners at that point, when I think, when when Schatz from football outsiders did the DNA for this game much much after nineteen Ninety-four, but that was like top five single, worst, delay games it for like, in history. Yeah, it was bad. It was real bad. So that was the turning point for the season though. And the Niners really rallied around that loss and proceeded to just basically kick everyone's ass for the rest of the year. They scored five hundred and five points, which lead the NFL they finished thirteen and three which was the best record in the NFL. They had to face Dallas during the regular season, and they won behind a couple of hangs interceptions if they had DV way in nineteen Ninety-four. They didn't. But Aaron Schatz football outsiders. Does a great job? And he kind of puts the stats through his algorithms and gives us the team would have finished first in offense of doi- and sixth in defensive delay. And Steve Young. Quarterback rating was at the time the single best season Mark for a quarterback rating in NFL history. So overall, it was a great season. And yet, the team was still hell bent on beating Dallas. And the rumor was Siefert didn't beat Dallas. He would have been fired. Wow. Yeah. I mean it makes sense. It's like what happens when you get two teams that, you know, expect to compete for championships year in year out? And I think it was a lot easier to do that. When you're a team, you know, it was easier to sustain success. I think back then. Right. You know, we're, we're right at the start of free agency kind of changing some of that stuff. But up to that point you could really build these teams that were so much better than everybody else and be able to keep a lot of those guys around. And so is easier to stand that and like, that's the difference. Right. You, you're there. And you're one of the best teams in the NFL every year but you're losing short of the ultimate goal. And like, yeah, that it makes sense it's wild to think that, like, that's the standard that they get held to because it's just like pretty unrealistic. We don't hang division. Banners? We Super Bowl intercessory here for him. Yeah, yeah. It's wild though. But yeah, I mean I very much like, remember I grew up without a team nearby rights. I grew up in the middle of nowhere, Nevada. So there's not like a hometown team. So you tend to get like kids basically root for the good teams. So it was like forty Niners fans. Cowboys yet some Packers fans and they're like all the big Steelers were were pretty big. Right. All of the big huge kind of teams are the ones that cause root for. And so it was like, yeah, a lot of like my worst days that I remember at school were like going and having to talk to Cowboys fans like after the Niners lost in ninety two and ninety three right? Is like this little grade school kid socks? Yes. So you'd like your member like wanting so badly fucking beat them. Yeah, I grew up in the bay area. So I like the people around me were morning when they would lose, and they would be like exalted when they would be excited when they won. So I. Didn't have to worry about that kind of fan cross pollination, because it was like you were a Niner fan if you were in that area, I was, I have a cousin who's four years younger than me, and I used to basically bully him and beat him up, and he became a Cowboys fan specifically, despite me. Because I used to basically give them so much shit. And he's still like always fan to this day. Yeah. Who'd work shout out to cousin Hugo. He's, he's. Yeah. He's we interact every now and again on Twitter, it's yeah. He's getting love that love him to death. But yeah, I bullied him into being a Cowboys fan, and I will, I will almost always regret that now not the best move. Yeah. I mean, really the stage was set for the game. Steve Young said in I think they did an America's game for that nineteen ninety four season. He said, I, quote, there is no one else in the league other than the Cowboys like they were fixated on beating the Cowboys. And that was the game. That was the atmosphere. This was the thing the Niners had to do this season to finally get over the hump. So we watch the game. We watch the TV tape couldn't get all twenty two on the Joe waiting on the all twenty he'll wait and see all twenty Hake all these conclusions with a grain of salt. So we're going to break down the game much like we do the games during the regular season. And we're gonna talk about the any impressions things. 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It's rain for a couple of days. And Steve Young may not actually play. That's the first thing that I was super interesting, you reading this book, that Richard dent collided with Steve Young during their final walkthrough. And apparently it made his next swell up. And he lost all mobility in his neck fucking defensive lineman, man. So you were talking about with Jimmy can't listen. Can't listen to the rules, right? You don't fuck with the quarterback rule. Number one, he needed to get an injection of. He said it was four milliliters of a powerful anti-inflammatory or whatever man it could have been heroin. I don't care but he he played. And that's it's pretty amazing that he almost didn't right? I had no idea. This was something that I'd never heard before. And so, yeah, when you brought that up from from the book that was wild. I mean what happened like what do we think of Steve Young? Now if he isn't able to play in this game and they lose right? That's yeah. That's exactly what he said in his book. He's like I was this close to not playing and what would his legacy? What would he as a player be known for, if he could never get over the hump against Dallas, if he didn't win a ring if you would have retired as a result of incursions? I mean it's, it's pretty wild how this one game and then the eventual Super Bowl wind really defined his legacy in defined him as a player and he was a Richard dent sore neck away from not playing that's wild. Wow them. All right. So first thing we think I mean when you when you watch the offense on tape, the offense to me was simultaneously, the forty Niners offense was simultaneously advanced in a lot of ways. And yet, firmly within its time I think it's a really good way to put it. Yeah. Because you see, I mean this was like NFL wide right there at around like the height of the west coast offense being not just for obviously, for Andrew's has been doing it for a long time at this stage, but as far as like some of the other coaches from the four hundred staff ready now bay. And you've got Brett farve, of course. And they were very good. They play the say I'm here, you've got the, the Niners, of course. And this is the beginning of the proliferation of that cyst. Yeah, you're starting to get to the point where like you know most of the teams in the league or running some version of this offense essentially. Right. And so it was very much that, you know, you're under center every single snap. I don't think we saw a single snap from shotgun. And this, you get all of the old. School like west coast, backfield, so it's, it's not a lot of like straight is stuff or anything that you got the split backs. You got the far near sets and it's just it's funny. It's like it's like looking. One of the Madden play books. Right. They always had the west coast playbook. And you would get all these formations and there. I mean that's exactly what it was. And it was just it was funny to see the run game back then was was so much different like, looks so much different than what you would see on a Sunday today. But like you mentioned there were definitely still some elements that you could notice in point to like, oh, wow. They're, they're being pretty aggressive for this time or they're doing some things like make a lot of sense that we see teams do now still. And so, yes, still still advanced in some ways for sure. Well you look at just the first play of the game. The first play the game looked like almost like an RPO. I mean, you've got that pro- set with the split Bax, which still looks super funny, and they fake the power run, and then Steve Young immediately opens up and hits the backside slam. And I mean it wasn't an IPO because it was defined play action pass. But it looked very much like it would now with a quick read and a quick hit and they I mean. They came out humming, and there were other plays like that throughout the game. That, like looked RPO issue, even though they weren't. Yeah. I mean you, you know that they obviously aren't. But it was. Yeah, the one that stuck out to me the most was there was a QB draw that they would run. And I think they did it like three times. I remember in this game once was early on young setup William Floyd like one yard touchdown run a second one was kind of a disaster. And he tried to like the lane closed up on him. And he tried to flip out to Brent Jones and almost went very poorly. And then scored touchdown the last time that they ran it, but yeah, it was. So from the receivers you would get just a normal route concept. Right. They would just they were running patterns trying to sell the pass. You get the offensive line really passed protecting. You can see them really trying to make sure to seal off the inside because you know that that quarterback draws coming but really trying to sell the pass as well. And then young. Yeah. Basically getting to pull it. And it just the one time. He. Got in trouble and tried to flip it out. It's like oh, wow. Maybe, maybe they were trying to make a decision based on something, I it would be almost certainly like a pre snap decision. But then, yeah, you mentioned that this is actually one of the things that he mentions the other thing you mentioned from this game and the book about how this was know defined quarterback draw the whole way. And, and basically, they're just like really trying to sell the pass and it worked. Yes. Steve Young specifically in the huddle on that touchdown run. He's screams sell the past like at his huddle like sell the past, so but it's still very much looks like something that you would see nowadays, especially with the option quarterbacks that you see now I was honestly surprised at how often they ran Steve Young with actual called quarterback runs. And he had a couple of scrambles, and he had a couple of rollouts and boots and stuff like that. But one I was surprised at how fast he was dude was quick, like I forgot how amazing he was when he broke out in the open field when compared to everyone else, and he was running like I mean, they were running in a mud pot is basically what that was that God that field. A disaster. It was awful. And yet the offense looked it looked really, really kind of like really great in a lot of ways. And then you see them run run the ball. And it was weird. The other part that seemed really advanced to me was their fourth down decision making the forty Niners worrying credibly aggressive on fourth down more so than I would have expected from a team in the nineties and it paid off. Because it's sustained drives over two times. They went for first downs where they converted and they were able to sustain drives that I don't know that some coaches now would actually have gone for fourth down in this relation. Yeah. Yeah. I mean there was I mean this was early right. So you had on their essentially their first drive because you had the Eric Davis pick six that kind of kick things off. And then once they get the ball for the first time on offense. This was what setup that fourth down conversion the first one was, what set up their eventual touchdown pass Ricky waters. But yeah, going for it on fourth in to there. And then there was another one. I think in the second quarter where they also went for it on. On fourth down to set up. But yeah, I think it's, it's it's it was weird to see I didn't really expect a lot of that type of stuff going back and watching a game from twenty-five years ago. I mean you're still begging teens to be more aggressive in those situations now and so you would expect people to be really conservative, but this was actually something which is another random point from this game. How good John Madden is, John Madden was fucking awesome. John man's great. And I thought that he was he, he told that line between jovial idiot and also was really good at think about how the technology must have been back then. But he would immediately see something that would pull it up on the replay. He would describe it with the teleprompter, and I mean, it was he was doing it faster and seamlessly than a lot of announcers can do it now. Yet it was amazing. Absolutely. Yeah. The ability to diagnose that stuff. One is is obviously very difficult to do in a live game situation. But then, yeah, just that ability. To be able to. He comes off almost, you know, like he's talks very casually about it comes off. Like he's just kinda some big goofball and a lot of ways. But is it like dropping bombs? Yeah. Like Xs, a know type stuff like why things are happening in a very easy to understand way. And it was it was sober, because you kind of you can forget a little bit. Right. He wasn't exactly at the top of his game by the end of his run. They're able and they became he became almost a joke of themselves for their like the boom. And the, the pointing out the obvious like men, whoever scores. The most points wins the game. That was that was what he became it was a caricature of himself. But in the in the eighties and early nineties, especially he was like peak announced, I was how you knew like it was a big game. Yeah. It was like, oh man Madden's call him this game. Like, yeah. This is gonna be awesome. But yeah he did like such a great job pointing that stuff out and being able to like draw attention to key parts of the players. And so, yeah, I thought that was just really interesting going back and seeing kind of a peak Madden game. So second quarter about nine minutes left the Niners run at play. Where they just leave the ends unblocked. It was a run play. They leave the ends completely unblocked and Ricky Watters actually breaks for a long run. This is one of the the run game corks that I noticed, like, would that ever happen now like you leave a backside end unblocked nowadays. But would you ever leave both ends unblocked and try to run a run up the middle? No, no. So this was one of the things that's weird about the run game like the west coast run game. Like that is, is. So the backs the depth of the backs is lot shallower. Right. So usually you're getting, you know, if you think in like an I formation or something like that. Back as the line that it typically like a depth about seven eight yards or so. So you think quarterback is about five yards four or five yards and shotgun depending on team's going to go back would be a few yards behind that. And so, yeah, you can't do things like that because it's, it's too much time for the back to be able to get to the line of scrimmage in through there in those ends. We'll just destroy them. Right. And so in these sets though, they're so close up there at that, like, four five yard depth that you can have those quicken runs and that was such a big part of their run game where these kind of like quick inside handoffs to that we're kind of, like trap asked, but weren't actually trapping anybody? And so, yeah, it was just kind of like one of those things like you don't see anyone. No one does that stuff today. So the offense looked in some ways very advanced for its time in some ways you would look at it. And you're like, oh, yeah, it's definitely nineteen Ninety-four like I was a little when you watch the, the first one hundred Super Bowl, you see the wide receivers lining up in a three point stance I was half expecting. Just three point stance. But the, the other thing I think that was interesting, the forty Niners offense in this game. Wasn't all that great? You mentioned the Jerry Rice drop. Touchdown which we've all expunged that from memory. But John Taylor had two drops at halftime, the Niners were big. But Stephen was only nine for twenty one hundred seventeen yards. This Cowboys defense was one of the best defenses in the league that year. And if they had way back, then they would have been the single best defense in the NFL that year and the Niners offense was having trouble where it not for those early turnovers. I mean they scored three times in the for seven minutes of the game, and we're not for those too early turnovers an interception from Eric Davis, and then a forced fumble. I don't know whether or not the Niners win this game. Right. It's so weird to, to balance like, okay. They clearly went, especially in the second half you're going to more of a conservative like you really get to that four minute offense back them a hell. A lot earlier than four minutes. Right. You like they're going to like in most of the second half it felt like where you're just trying to grind out the clock and in waste time there but yeah, it's funny. I mean you look at even Young's you mentioned the first half numbers, his final numbers like they're almost certainly people out there now that are maybe even our age that, like look at this box score that don't remember it like, wow. Steve Young was terrible in this game. How did they win this game? He was thirteen and twenty nine for one fifty five and two touchdowns. Jesus, like not a glamorous box score at all. And you look and you see Aikman put up nearly four hundred yards two touchdowns. Over fifty pass attempts looks a lot more like a, a line that you would see today. And, and so, yeah, it was just wild. I mean he had a number of things, though, that like hurt those, those numbers, right? Like you mentioned the draws rice had two of them Taylor had two of them. Like there was things that could have made that stuff look a lot better like he was far more efficient than what that line showed, but it was. Just like it certainly isn't the game if you were going to point to show somebody like, who had never watch Steve Young play football. And so why was show me? Why Steve Young was great. Right. You're not really gonna show him this game show on the Super Bowl. Yep. You show him the Super Bowl Super Bowl is a great one for that, for sure. But yeah, I mean he made the throw that he made to rice like up the left sideline for a touchdown was was fantastic. Was the best on the entire game. Yeah. But yeah otherwise like the offense and again, it's hard to separate how much of this was just a product of, of game situation and their philosophy back then that was pretty universal of just like trying to grind that stuff out and how much it was them. Just not really able to be super efficient and productive consistently on offense. Yeah. So I think that if you set aside the forty Niners offense for a second and you look at what was happening on the other side of the football, the other thing, I think that really stood out to me in this game. Troy Aikman had one hell of a game. He was dealing at very. Points throughout this game. And I thought that if you were to take this single game. And, and I think you mentioned if you take this game in a vacuum, I think Aikman outplayed young and I thought that he had overall a better game through the air. I think if you add, what they did on the ground. Steve Young had a couple of for sounds that he ran for added value in the running game for sure. Which I think overall that was that was Steve Young's game. That's why he was as good as he was. But I had forgotten how good Aikman was kind of like how late John Madden makes you forget, how good early John Madden was, I feel like Troy Aikman now because of how much I dislike how he calls games makes me like dislike him as a player, but he was he was amazing this game. It's is really funny. I was actually like primed to go in expecting to come away. Like saying, man Aikman was not as good as we remember, right? Yeah. Because there's been a lot of that there was a big thing, a while back. You know what a few weeks ago now or something like that, where a big portion of Twitter was like going on about eight how Aikman wasn't a hall of Famer like shouldn't have been a hall of Famer and like, comparing his numbers, essentially really shitty quarterbacks now, which is problematic for other reasons. But, you know, I, I think there's like on its face you can. If you don't like actually go back and watch them all that much. You can construct a pretty easy argument. That like yeah. Maybe Aikman wasn't as good as we thought right? He's obviously surrounded by had one of the best offensive lines in NFL history at that point, how to hall of fame running back hall of fame receiver to throw to had dominant defenses behind him. So, yeah. Like, maybe, maybe there was a situation where he was just kind of getting carried by those guys. Right. It wasn't really one of the primary drivers of that success. But at least in this game man, he was he was on fire yet that it was a horrible pick. Six horrible. I drive but after that dude was dealing just eating in the intermediate area like. All game. So one of the things the Niners did initially was really, really smart. They of course had the first game against Dallas. And they play their defense. One way by the time they got to the James game. They switch their coverage up and instead of playing Dion Sanders on Michael Irvin, or keeping their corners on one side of the other, they basically had Dion Sanders on Harper Alvin Harper, their second receiver and they double teamed, Michael Irvin, with their safety, and Eric Davis, and basically, had a bracketed coverage on Michael Irvin, and then let Dion Sanders do his thing and eliminate another receiver on the other side of the field. And that initially through I think Dallas for a loop, and eventually, Dallas figure that out and Sanders did eventually cover urban on a few snaps throughout the game. But that was a really, really smart tweak. I thought from the forty Niners defense that I think really through Dallas off initially because they couldn't go to their reads. Sanders was so good that he eliminated whatever receiver he was covering. And I think double teaming urban was the right call. And I think that was something that really helped initially put the game so far out of reach that that offensive. Sputtering wasn't as big of an impact, right? Yeah. I mean, I think that was that was definitely one of my bigger takeaways was how good the defense was overall in this game. I think there were some things in coverage, you know, that were that were problematic outside of Dion, I would say, but like overall the defense played, really well the run like. Emmett Smith was not very good in this game like they really kind of shut him down for most of it. He had a couple of short touchdown runs whatever. And then ripped off some larger runs that kind of padded those overall and also maybe his hamstring. Sure. Ripped up some runs aided Andrews hamstring. Yeah. And so, like, you know they, they did a great job up front. They're against that, you know, again, really dominant Dallas offense of line. But yeah, the Dionne stuff was was super interesting because it's I think it's like a reasonable argument. You've seen teams do it both ways right? To you. Put your best corner on their best receiver. And then trust that. Hopefully your guy is, is better and can kind of win the majority of those matchups, and then you can really take away, you know, it's going to be much easier to take away that number two guy. If you've got two guys over there like he's gone, right? Or do you put your best one on? I think the jets used to do this with rebus. Yeah. A lot is they would put rebus on anymore when he was on the patriots for that season. Like. They put him on the number two guys centrally and then really rotate coverage away from him and kind of trust that he's going to be able to lock things down on that one side but urban I mean he made him, he made them pay quite a bit. Even though he was getting a lot of attention over there. So first of all, how do you as Eric Davis and the safety who toyed cooks man? I would not have remember literally as I was typing notes going through this game. I wrote urban roasted Eric Davis and whoever the hell number forty one is like had. No, I'd no recollection of no idea. But how, how do you in a bracketed coverage? Let Irvin who is not exactly a speedster just blow ride by both players split them and catch that touchdown, Dallas of thousands first. Touchdown on not a great look. Not a great look for our guys. Yeah. It was. I mean they they try to throw. I mean it wasn't even a great fake necessarily from Irvine like you get the pump from Aikman. They're trying to sell a double move trying to sell the because Dallas really. You know, one of the routes that they're known for that you here. I think they called it like the bang eight right, is what you hear. So it's quick post, you'll hear teams call it now like it more like a glance route. And so, but it's, it's really throwing right at the break on the post quickly. Right. And so they run that a lot urban caught several passes on that same round in this game. And this was basically faking that. And then having him stem vertically again, and go through it, and they just bought hard on like that little in fake, and that was enough to let Irvin who. Yeah. Again is like not a speedster by any means not running by a lot of guys, but he just blew by him on, and they were off coverage to it wasn't like they were up on the line. I mean they had a good ten. I think Eric Davis was twelve yards off the line of scrimmage and cooks with something like fifteen seventeen and they still they still couldn't do it. So. Yeah, I mean it was essential. That was one of the plays. It was it was funny because the camera angles are so paired. And so this was one where you got actually a good all twenty two replay from. And they're like, yes, sitting. And basically, what is a quarter coverage and you've got Davis in the safety. You kind of plan inside out on Ervin over there. And he just yet roasted them. I mean ultimately the game I think turned on a couple of key on a couple of key plays. One is those initial interceptions to open the game going up. Twenty one zero is, is pretty much a death knell for most teams and it wasn't for Dallas. They weren't they managed to call themselves back. But that, that first young touchdown pass, where they were able to get the fumble recovery, and then come back and score. I thought was really, really pretty for a couple of reasons. One, this is one instance where you do get to see the brilliance of Mike Shanahan, the play caller because that play that they score. The touchdown on was set up by their opening play. It looked very, very similar you. Have the split back you have the fake power run. But now this and you'd have the same backside slant. But now this time instead of throwing that slant, Steve Young. Pumps hitches turns to. To the backside and hits Ricky waters on a wheel route and both both action, but the play action and the pump fake holds that linebacker and waters is just gone. And this is the integrated calling that really good play callers have where it's not just one play after another. It's plays that key off of one another that look very similar, but then do very, very different things and even a ninety four Mike Shanahan was calling plays like that. And the Niners were able to score and it looked beautiful and it's one of those things where it's like that's where that offense looks really advanced. Even though they were running the split back power for sure. Yeah. And that was, I think one of the plays to like one of the throws where you really see. I think what, what defined the way that I think both Montana and young in a lot of ways like what made them greatest throwers like neither of them necessarily had the strongest arms, but they were so accurate and precise with that. And the ability to throw with touch, and like throw these very catchable balls. And like that was such a perfect example of it because. Just as nice, soft road, dropping it in over the top hits imperfectly in stride, like couldn't be better ball location on that throw. And that was just kind of the thing that, that really separated those two guys as passers I feel like Steve Young said in his book that he didn't really feel like he unlocked as a quarterback until he started throwing blind, where he would he would use to have to see a player and then throw it to him. And then when he started playing for the forty Niners Bill Walsh, basically said, no, you have to trust that. He's there you based out the throw to a spot, and that means that you don't have to see over the line necessarily you have to confirm your coverage. But once you confirm your coverage you know, he's going to be open because he's going to run the route. We tell them to and you just have to get it to that spot. And so he starts throwing blind and I feel like that's the why he has such beautiful passes with that Jerry Rice faded. He threw the touchdown to you and money. I mean he's throwing those and he he's been owing to because he knows he's going to be there. I think the other part. That was a huge swing was. That missed field goal that Dallas had. When I drove down to the ten and then and then missed a field goal gotta love right before that fucking running the ball on third and ten even Madden even like it again in nineteen Ninety-four. Madden is like despondent. It's like play about play. Yeah. And then just like couldn't fuck in believe, like did they just run on third and ten like down here and scoring range like what are they doing? And the end up missing. I mean that was their, their chance right to really get back in it if they could have managed to get in the end zone like on that, especially gets much different game the rest of the way. But yeah, you make that just horrible horrible decision to run the ball on third and ten and then follow that up with misfield goal. That's just like oh man. Yeah. It's brutal. Overcome something like that. Yeah, it really is. And on it. So the pro football reference has this great EPA the kind of play by play where they give you the expected points before a play and expect the points after a game. And so you're able. Able to find the EPA per play for each one of these and I went back and looked at the EPA for each one of these plays. And the third worst play. In this game was that play, right? There was the missed field goal has a result of running, and the two before the to the only two plays that were worse in terms of EPA. In other words that the only two other players that cost the Cowboys more points than the decision and kick that field goal or interceptions. One of which directly led to points. Yeah. Yeah, right. Yeah. I mean it was it was a rough sequence for them. I feel like this game would have been very different if they had managed that better and been able to come away with. I mean at least some points, but obviously, like you don't get a ton of opportunities to get down there. Right. He always want to be able to maximize those chances and you come away with the touchdown that drive, and it's just a much different game the rest of the way. So the final turning point is one that I got lots of tweets about when people found out that we were review in the ninety four championship game and that was the non call against Dion Sanders in the fourth quarter against Michael Irvin. Lots of people were saying it was a pass interference actually told the buddy of mine, who's a Dallas Cowboys fan, not Richard incidentally, different friend of mine, who's the Dallas Cowboys fan that we were reviewing the game for the podcast. And he immediately wrote back. It was that was his his immediate Tech's high didn't see any I don't know what they're talking about. It was. So this was, of course in the fourth quarter, the. Cowboys are down by ten at this point. It's thirty eight twenty eight and they are driving down the field. The game has felt like it's turned at this point towards the Cowboys and they're able to get their offense moving. And at this point Dion is on Michael Irvin, and the ball is deep and you've got Dion Sanders, who basically, kind of puts an arm bar out and impedes the arm a little bit. And the ball, kind of comes over Diaz head on the right side, and falls in front of them. And it doesn't get a call. I think it probably was. Look, would it probably get called. Now, maybe I think even in nineteen Ninety-four anymore. Here's the thing that I that, that makes me more okay is so one like that's a good move by Dion to begin with. Right. So you a lot of times on, on those deep vertical routes down the sideline what you want to do is a corner be able to do is, is really squeeze them to the sideline. Right. You wanna kinda get on top of them a little bit. And that does in most cases involve kind of getting an arm out there, right making a little bit of contact. You're not being overly aggressive, whether you're not shoving the dude out of bounds or something like that. Right. But you kind of just get control have have a feel for them there and that allows you to kind of stay on top of it, and prevent him from getting back inside of the catch point. What Irvine does? This is what Irvine why four Nance fans. If I can hate urban is Irvine sell shit linzo arms. The arm is there was he reaching out in, like a clearly, like with an arm bar that was. Like going to prevent his arm to to go down. No. But Irvine's sells it. He tries to come up and bring his arm up through Dion arms. Basically urban was like the original harden. Yes, one hundred percent. He was the football harden. It was the football and it's like, look man. And I guess if you're gonna use that logic, maybe you say, okay we'll like parking technically got the contact and maybe you should throw the flag. But the same time it doesn't feel good rewarding that, so I totally agree. Now the other thing too is that the game that, that wouldn't have resulted in a score necessarily, and they were still down by ten. So a lot would have had to have happened for that game to change. But I do think that non-call was was a bit of a turning point. But it wasn't so much so that it would have like it wasn't like they were going to take the lead with that in the end zone or something like it is funny to contrast that though, with the call that rice, basically got just by asking for it up the sideline there was fucking. No, no, there was no contact at all. And he started raff. Bitching about it in the fucking gets the flu. Lag and it's just like oh, man. That is a star called there. And I can't say that the reps were inconsistent in letting them play because war were there are a lot of late hits, and a lot of late swings and a lot of things where you're like, like, and it happens, like right in front of the raft. And the ref does not throw a flag, and they were punches thrown in front of a ref, and there were, there were not flags thrown and you're just like, wow, okay. It was just it was it was different man. You see court. I mean both quarterbacks getting hit much later than, than is acceptable today like there would have been what felt like a dozen flags for roughing had and the one roughing that they called was complete horsh, it, it was a yeah. Was like Rickey Jackson coming by swiping kind of in the direction of barely like grazing. The helmet it was a twenty nineteen penalty. Yeah. That one was like that would and that was twenty nine thousand nine penalty that you'd be pissed about still and like that of all the one gets called. But like there, there were so many other plays like. There was this one where Aikman's like is able to flip it out to his check down. He's almost all the way down almost to his young and then get somebody coming in right after that. And just like bending him the other direction, look super Pertile, but it was like, yeah, he got this ship it out on the net game. Bryant young is one of my favorite forty Niners. And he played a really good game against the Cowboys. And there was one time where I was like, damn, I don't remember Bryan Young being that mean because it was he took two steps hit yet in right? And that's dropped him. It was well after like there was like, if felt like they had like a five second grace. Just like you can get there, man. Fucking get him. Yeah. It was it was a different game. And it was way different. And I for one, I'm kind of glad that quarterbacks have to go through that. And that we can have these play for quite a bit longer. But Holman they were the refs were letting them play. Yes. And in that context, I think the PI is not as grievous I think if we look at that with, with current is probably is in one thousand nine hundred four I think it's dubious but the way those rats called the game I think they would letting them play. I think another call to, and this is I'm interested. We talked about this very briefly before, but we kinda saved a lot of it for this one as I was going through. So this also could have been potentially a big turning point is the force fumble from Eric Davis. So the first drive first Cowboys drive, you get the pick six from Davis. The second one ends with Eric Davis, forcing a fumble on Michael Irvin, and I don't know. Man. I think like. Maybe not pre maybe not twenty nineteen twenty eighteen I guess that might still be a fumble. But like twenty seventeen twenty sixteen. When we were like p convoluted catch roll stuff, like there's a really good chance. I was just an incomplete pass. I mean he he basically goes up in the air to catch it comes down hasn't really had. I mean he's clearly got possession feet down all that stuff. But definitely hasn't started to make a move or anything like that. In a mmediately Davis is in there to knock it out. And my first thought was like should that have been incomplete like nobody, and it seems like at that point, it was very much accepted to be a forced fumble like Madden or anybody like nobody mentioned it, right? And nobody was like, oh, jeez, actually be a fumble. So it seemed like it, it was obvious for that time for that Arab. But yeah, that was, I was like, I don't know if that's a catch today. Like and if and if all of a sudden, they don't turn the ball. I think that would have been a third down conversion for them. Keep the drive alive. Get them out closer to midfield and. You know at that point, it's only seven nothing and if they rebound and score on that drive then again we're looking at a completely different game. But I thought that one was interesting. Yeah, I, I think ultimately those turnovers were important and Eric Davis, I think played a good game in the first eight minutes or so. But I think overall the player of the game for me was Dion Sanders. Like, I, I don't think that team wins without what Dion provides for schematically the ability to cover Harper and a race him. And then, let Eric Davis and cook cover Michael Irvin. And then switch off on urban and I tweeted out a couple of clips of the back and forth. They had because there was a play where I mean, Michael, Irvin is a strong dude, and he pushed the hell out of Dion, Sanders and Dion was quick enough and savvy enough to kind of grab the jersey a little bit and come back and knock the ball with his offhand. He was always so good knocking the ball with his offhand got I mean urban on the basically the exact same route earlier in the game does Oberoi Eric Davis. Got it. Yeah. You got the push off on you got one on dean onto. Gave up a catch. You gotta catch Dion there and it was kind of the same that it was one of those comeback routes. And yeah he's he got him a little bit more twisted at the line of scrimmage. John was was up there, trying to press. Didn't get a good jam on him. And so, yeah, he was able to use that, again that push at the top of the route and get it and you had Dion like was back in this one and played it so much better. It gets in there and get his hand on it. Yeah. To me, one hundred percent like with without question watching this game. It was so easy to say Dion. Sanders was best player in this game yet. Like, I think very, very even returned a punt. Yeah. Dion the returners always great. But it was just the way that he moves like, the, the speed that he plays on the interception. Even he's kind of like it best, maybe even around the time the malls, thrown complain, then drizzles by gone, like has yards of separation to get on top of urban and go pick this pass off. Yeah. He was just kind of on another planet these other guys. Yeah. And it's so interesting. Now when when we look at this game through the lens of what we know about football now. Or, or what we think we know right now, the analytics are telling us that the Cornerbacks are really what help you out. And when you think of the way this deepens was constructed. Yes. Absolutely. They had players who could rush the passer and they did close the game out with a couple of really big sacks and those pass rushers I think were were good in their time. But if you hadn't have looked at the box score. Would you have known more than like one or? Two of those pass rushers like Tim Harris, Harris Rickey Jackson would be the one. And then beyond that. I mean I've seen any of the interior guys. But the edge players that they had their. Yeah. Rickey Jackson was the only one that was like, okay. Yeah. Geno. And honestly, I Eric Davis goes on the have a good career. He ends up going to Carolina. And you know he wasn't like to Diaz level but he was not terrible and he had a couple of good plays at the beginning of the game. So really it was the corners that, that really sealed this game. I think for the forty Niners both early in terms of the turnovers and then able to schematically give them an advantage and shut down some of their really good players late that, that really allowed the defensive line time to get to Troy Aikman and porta God, destroy him over and over and over again. But yeah I mean overall I think top to bottom. It was a good defense, but those corners main really related the owns fun. Yeah. I think like of players of that era that I would like to go back. And like watch more of like Dion is probably right up there. Yeah. The list. Just. Yeah. Again so much more athletic. And just like he just looked better than everybody else. And he was going again, going against a hall of Famer. And Michael Irvin a very talented. Very very good Cowboys offense at that time. And yeah, I think it was just stark, how much better, he looked a big piece of me. I would love to like rock more Niners Dion gear. But a big piece of me is like one year. Not even a full season. And yeah, it was a Super Bowl year. But like I'm always gonna lean more towards like Steve Young or Jerry Rice, because even though those ninety four jerseys or my absolute favorite, I love the throwbacks. I love the all white throwbacks at team uses now it's still always like one year, he he, I think, identifies as a cowboy and even though he started with Atlanta right? But he still didn't he play the most seasons? I think so, because the only played I think like four or five years or whatever with Atlanta and not even that much maybe. And then he went to the Niners. And then he went to the Cowboys, and then he went to Baltimore for a couple. Eight years after he took two years off just for shits and giggles. Right. It takes a couple of years off. And then comes in finishes his career with Baltimore because of why not. Yeah. Get one of just those rare athletes that, like, I think, and I kinda thought this it points to about about various players. But it just like how like these guys clearly wouldn't be good today. Right. Like a lock. It's like. Yeah. Athletes are just the continue to get better. Each eras like better athletically. And so while I think there are definitely some players that could kind of make that jump right on would still be good. Dion is one where I have very little doubt that he could peak Dion would be inserted in today's game and be every bit as good. I think there were, so that's an interesting question were there any players that you saw from this game that you think would still be able to succeed in today's NFL Dion is obviously one of them was there anyone else? I mean, I think I, I think, you know, rice and Irvine would probably still be fine urban his game was more physical and he has like, from a size standpoint fits what we think of as a big receiver still today. So I think like that, that element in his ability to be physical and get open in the intermediate area and stuff like that, and generates actually did it and close the monitor Jerry Rice did it for a million years? So, yeah, I don't think there's a lot of question about that one. The player for me is Ricky Watters. I think Ricky Watters would succeed in today's NFL. I mean you saw him split out a lot and motion a lot in this game. And he was running around. He went he ran that wheel rowdy is going to touchdown on that wheel route, and he was fast. I mean he hit the whole real quick. And so he's a player, I think that could succeed in today's NFL surprisingly, I did not go in expecting this at all because we hear so much about how offense of line right now as as like has. Such a dearth of talent, like we need more good offensive linemen. And in it, it makes you kind of feel like this is the worst era for offensive linemen that we've had I don't know man, looking at these guys, and it could have been like granted there. There's some weird things with this camera angle, and you had the field that was just a disaster. And so it's possible like some of those things just make it look a bit more sluggish and hectic than than it, really would be if you were to watch and a different game watch the Super Bowl or something on a on a better field. But the offensive lineman in this game you know, you look at Dallas and again supposed to be one of the best offensive lines, maybe an NFL history and they were just all huge mall like they don't move very well. And I think that, like they would really struggle from just like the little bit that I saw. And it's like I don't know that they would be very good in today's game. I agree with you. Remember the I forget the Limon's name, but he had an issue with this helmet. And I think it's face was coming off. And so we had to. Off the field. And they've put I guess, Ron stone or someone in his place. This is the Cowboys offensive lineman. But I just looked at his body composition, and he just looked genus. Could you huge like probably all three hundred thirty three or four. Could you imagine Aaron Donald going up against God's someone like that? They would have no chains. No, it would it would be over. I mean you saw even Brian Young, Brian is, you know, why had such a good way can play like yeah. He was able to use quickness against those guys a lot to be able to get in the backfield and like make plays run line scrimmage. And, and get pressures and yeah. I think that was the one thing that I was surprised. They did not expect to come away thinking, like man. Those offensive lineman, Mike it just torched if they were playing today. So when you think of the aftermath of the game were there any takeaways from the game where you're like, you know. With the power of hindsight that you're like, man, this, this was, this was something that you noted what you're like. Oh, well this the, the game had a larger impact than you thought it would or was it just like this singular moment in time, where you're like, oh, that was fun. Yeah, I think it was just fun. I, I mean, I think it would be, you know, I definitely would. I think we might do this, at least one more time. We'll, we'll see how it goes for more than that. But yeah, I think it would it's, you know, it's, it's good to go back and really again, kind of challenge these thoughts that you have that are about things that happened. So long ago. Right, that you really don't remember as well as you would like to think that, you know. And so, like, yeah. Being able to go back with the benefit of hindsight and kind of the knowledge that you have now compared to what you were at. When you watch these games initially, I think, is a really fun thing to do. And so, yeah, it'll be interesting to go back. I'm hoping that, like I didn't have any of those moments in this game where it was just like joked about rice with what the drops there, but no no moments where you're like something earth shattering where you're like, oh, my God. My childhood beliefs are just crumbling right now around me. I thought this player was amazing. And he just was careful like didn't have any of those moments yet, but I think it would be it would suck kinda if that if that ended up happening from watching one of the games, but it's, it's fun to, to see just like how much things have evolved in twenty five years. Right. Like, yeah, it's, it's such a different game in so many ways for me. It was really in doing some of the research for this to to get the context for the season in the game. And seeing actually read an article on ESPN. Insider about the salary cap woes the Niners got into not too long after this. I mean, once you get to ninety eight ninety nine you get to a place where the Niners or having to really make some serious, and drastic salary cap decisions, and it's just interesting to think that this game while yes, they wanna Super Bowl, and they went out and bought a defense was the beginning of, you know what I call the decade of darkness because of the salary cap issues that they put themselves in as a result of trying to buy these players, and they eventually lost the draft pick over it because they circumvented salary cap rules. And so just the, the idea that this Super Bowl win validated there free-wheeling ways, which ultimately led to ten years of being shitty of football after sixteen to twenty years of absolute dominance. It's wild looking at those drafts immediately after this is starting ninety five and then kind of looking over the next several years. I mean they get obviously own. Owens is the one big big hit that you get the comes in ninety six but you look at the rest of these, and there's like some decent players mixed in there. Like, you know, our w mcquarters was okay for a little bit. Jeremy Newberry was a solid center. Okay. Mcchord once he moved to safety. I guess. Yeah. But he likes he played. He had a karate or right? You cannot say that for all these guys. And like the, the next time that I think you really get a player that, that is like, really pretty good is probably in two thousand I would I would probably lump Julian Peterson. Yeah. In that category. But yeah, just a whole hell of a lot of bad drafts for many years immediately after this. Yeah. It was. It was. It was a combination of those two things, I think that made the Niners so bad for so long. And then, you know, we get to closer to where we are now and when we're in the middle of the pack and seeing if we can get better with one of the Shanahan's going back to the roots, but Stu. All right. Then that does it for this edition of the better rivals podcast. Thanks for jumping in the DeLorean with us and going back down memory lane. We'll probably this one more time next week. And then it's probably going to be close to July where we started doing some more off-season content, and we've got some scheme months a plan. And then once we get into training camp and the preseason man, there's, there's no offseason start drinking tea David preseason. My least favorite. Oh, yeah. Yeah. It's like it's like dry humping, but not nearly as fun and the exact same amount of work freedom, just like any other game. It's fantastic. Oh my God. All right. Well, thanks again for listening. You can always catch me at better rivals on Twitter, David work, and they follow you. It's gonna be at PF underscored Dave. And you know, this might be the end of the warriors era, who the hell knows what happened. So at least for one more time this hopefully for a game seven go dubs.

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Jamie Foxx, 'Just Mercy'

Popcorn with Peter Travers

27:16 min | 10 months ago

Jamie Foxx, 'Just Mercy'

"All right everybody. I M Peter Travers. This is popcorn where we tell you what's happening at the movies and there's a great movie out right now for your c called just mercy that has Michael Jordan and then also this ask Jamie Foxx. Yes you're not from give it up now you either are or execute chicks you have to face. This is all right Jamie before I lose complete control interview which would be fine but you made a great movie and Jess Mercy you dead. I think this is a true story. True story I think this is the opposite is this is the most important movie I've ever done Yeah I got yes because of who it's about and what it's about Brian Stephen. A lawyer of WHO's played wonderfully about Michael Jordan. who his whole life is? A Journey is exonerating people that are on death row of wrongly accused and and when I met Bryan Stevenson I was blown away about how much he's done. And what is and it's been sort of under the radar so I applaud Michael Jordan for being the biggest star in the world But always coming back to the movies like this for our cultural for us to educate is to uplift us to give us hope and like I said it is the most important movie I've ever the and who do you play. Play Walter mcmillen Watson Watt's McDonald's amendment south in in Alabama who own pulping business chop down trees for living on his way home on a country road he gets pulled over by the sheriff. And the sheriff says you killed someone it city he's never been in Never met this person. They say you're going to jail. And they put him in jail. Put him on death row without a trial he was on death. Row without a trial for six years and I've been death row before studying for movie and the one thing that I knew about death row was at the worst thing you give. A person is hope because they know that at some point At any point they could be taken off to either electric chair or however they're going to be a or expired but hope walks in in the form of Bryan Bryan Stevenson. Who has played wonderfully Michael Jordan? He takes the case. This is a nineteen eighty six. which wasn't that long ago and They pulled off the miraculous And exonorated a person who had never been in. This has never happened in Alabama person to be exonerated off of death row. And that's the store and what was amazing about how our director destination destined and Michael Be put the movie together on how it brings. Everybody and you saw this Toronto in Toronto. Where just make people crazy and you got I? I don't know eight minutes and thirteen minutes standing ovation but what I really appreciated about the movie. Was it allowed everyone in this movie tested in front of a all black audience at a ninety seven now we expect it for that to be in a high number then they tested in the mid West in front of mostly white audience and we what they say it tested at a ninety eight so that lets you know that the work that was done in the movie as the adapt tation of a book really really got it done. It really worked. Let's look at a clip from your performance Sir Ingest Mercy Screen Actors Guild nominated for I godless. So let's look list from Harvey all know what it is here. You get from the moment you ball buddy over these white folks and make them laugh and try to make him like it. Whatever that is and you say yes or no man but when it's your turn ain't got no thanks take evidence and all the witnesses they got eight thing another matter when all your thank is I looked like a WHO could kill somebody? That's not what I think the way. You're not looking at him and then you do. It's just it's devastating because he wants to get it out. He wants him to hear what was going on in in this soul and then that look. I'm sure he's done it a few times that look to see if what I told hold him really landed. Sometimes people can be in those positions and it's no pad pencil numbers. You're just another person. I'm on my way. But when he looked up so Michael be looking back at him. Engaged young ready ready to take on whatever this whatever this monster is designed to do at the end it was another thing too. I studied a film that that move to me was made famous to me by Al Pacino in The Godfather and if you remember I think it was Zena he was when he was getting ready to kill him at the dinner table. Yeah when he says. I'm going to talk Doc Italian till Michael foresaken and as he goes to talk. Al Pacino Leans up to listen but he looks this way first and and then he engaged so as you study the the art. There's certain things that you bring along with you. That are really effective. Well it sure sure works and that's what you want. You don't just see this movie and say you want to talk to people about it and you see this. You gotTa feel it because there's instead of just anger and just rage. There's a sense of. We can do something about it if we fail. Were trying to do something it. Listen the thing about. This is what I enjoyed about the way. The movie plays out is said when people leave this movie. They feel like they want to get involved. What can I do? What can I do to change his narrative? What can I do to pull back to mass of some of these injustices? And that's what's been so fulfilling with this film because Brian I Steve Isn't who still going out there every day of about his job. He needs it. He needs that people to know that these things are going on because it helps in his endeavors in taking these people and trying to you know put their lives back together. Well Walter Your Johnny on on these calls a lot of things. But he's the kind of person that grows up in this Alabama neighborhood and it was. It's very ironic in the movie. How everybody there even racist Alabama is saying? This is Monroe Kennedy. This is where Harper Lee wrote to them walking bird right which is about Wow this racist that. They don't even say dangerous sort of bouncing off her celebrity. What well here's the thing is like like I'd say all the time there were some very interesting things that wall to sit? Did I looked like a man that could kill somebody. This is the perception that were attacking what tackling the perception that a black man automatically you feel like there is some some of villainous or ominous thing that he possesses therefore of when he is accused of something. We sorta turn the other way. You know we don't necessarily we give them the benefit of the doubt. I can't tell you how many times when when there's something going on on television and there's there's some type of crime every black person to tell you man. I hope it's not a black person. Listen you know why because it continues the narrative but continues The procession so that's what we're what we were tackling in in the movie Walter. Walter says you're guilty from the day you were born now. That was something that we actually ad-libbed in the in the script really. Yeah because yes that's my line Growing up in a southern place in Texas in Texas and being met with early age age racism being called As a young kid it baffled me I was eight years old. My grandfather told me go. Get some gas and gas like twenty five cents a gallon. So he's bringing some gas. I I had to walk on the other side of the tracks. Go get the gas but I think the gas only came up to eighteen cents and I need to get to seven cents back but I didn't WANNA leave the gas out you know so I had to walk into the place I walk in and the guy says. Hey what are you doing while you bring the gas. And I looked at him. I said hey eight. I'm only eight nine. Remember marching back to my grandfather and told him what happened. My grandfather went over and talked to the man told him. You know. That's not nice and whatever you told them what He. He squatted. But I couldn't couldn't wrap my mind around a grown man looking at a child insane and saying that and so that's where I got the line I said I don't have nothing to do with this. I was just born. How can I change this? Why are you so angry at me just because because I was born? Yeah so when you're born into the world and this label is on you just because you're born. I thought that that was something that Walter that we should Add to the to the layer of his character saying I was just born because that's all of us were only just born. It actually has these of resonance in reverberations into slavery saying okay. This is what you're born into so this is where it's going to happen and that's why I I I toy with a toward with this. As long time called residue residue. Slavery has residue. That's what we're dealing with. The residue of slavery still exist. Because if you to do something for two hundred years if you think about a person for two hundred years you have an idea of a prison for two hundred years that's in your DNA now. So that's that's in the DNA DNA of America that slave residue although we've come a long way certain pockets of just don't let those images in the way we are looked at go. And that's the residue slavery but I want to go back to what you said when you were kid you said you going on the other side of the was at that literal. Oh Yeah Texas. That's from yonkers. I'm from yonkers where we had tracks but we'll let me explain to. The southern city's most other cities have a railroad track separates the city. You've heard it that phrase before on the other side of the track. What that actually means is the railroad tracks runs through splits the city and I situation? It's the north and the south. We were on the southern side. all-black mostly black on the other side is all white so basically the railroad checks is by design on. Why side of town all your gas electric electric police? Everything on the black side of town. Nothing no resources. So therefore if there was ever civil unrest they wouldn't fight it out. They take the train connecting starve. Yup so that way. You can't get resources or anything like that. So that's why it was designed that way now. The mental version of this is that whenever I go on that side of the tracks all the streets are paved on our side right and dirt roads. So it's a mental thing. Still imagery thing so that residue. Yes the resident and so my grandmother would always talk about the other sizes has its tracks so she wanted to quit me with things like she says. I want you to learn how to play. The piano is okay classical Pierre. I said why because it's going to take you on the other side of the tracks that's a granny you mean for white people. He's an s the metaphor the other side of the tracks for the whole world because music connects us and she was right. I ended up studying classical piano and I went to college on the classical piano scholarship where it was eighty one different countries in my school records for grandma that would rate that she did that. But you also. That's when you started being funny when you were all your man. That was the thing that was a joke because she called me. spackle spy no speckling. I know what it is but I don't know why he connects the bricks right. It does do that. Just put it. I will connect our side in their airside. Funny Smart Kid quarterback of the high school but when I started out with the standup when I was in third grade I had a teaching misreads disrupted because I was all. My grandmother had a library to house. I was already finished with my works. I'd have anything to tell jokes. So she says listen. You'RE GONNA end up getting kicked in class. How about I give you time at the end of class on Friday? You like ten fifteen minutes to do craft so I think misery kind of jokes would you town I would tell jokes from the Johnny Carson show really know why now because my room was where the only TV was my grandmother the grandfather watched Johnny Carson. Did you know that Earlier today it was so hot. How was it so I would take those jokes to to the kids because I knew they want to watch Johnny Carson? You know what I'm saying. So you know they thought I was a genius. Let's BACO was watched back. He was I thought I was a genius. And I would do. impersonations I remember doing Jimmy Carter. This is my fifth grade I was doing Jimmy Jimmy Carter impersonation what Jimmy Carter was singing you light up my life and I can't remember who I think it was rich little joke. Can you still do that. so many nights member billy so many nights memories. The billy will sit by the window waiting on someone to bring some peanuts and beer. That was a joke. He knows they billy Carter and so the your audience was it was a revolution in all the kids. Watch and then next thing you know things called on so I would be doing my act in fifth grade but they will have. Six seventh and eighth graders and teachers just come in to hear me to my act so so that was a beauty that audience. But that was the beauty of my city. Because I don't want to just label as always just as racist. There were people on both sides of the tracks recognized that I had something and they helped me cultivating even when I got to L. A.. When I got to San Diego and I was only eighteen? Nineteen and I was I started going to the Little Pot looks at the comedy store but I was too young to get in you know so. They made me wait outside. And I'm like waiting on my time to go but I would do impersonations impersonations but I will do different impersonations that you wouldn't expect the only black doing Ronald Reagan got the wrong break. We'll we'll well. As a matter of fact I go there. You go again. We own and so image that we own. Ah there you go so so so imagine being on stage and I sneak up to La Ellie and all black them. Seeing me do those types of characters. Mike Tyson Mike Tyson boxing. Champion sir take into the break. I was like a murdering. Here's how here's how God works. I'm doing I'm killing killing La. I remember Robin. Harris is like the biggest community where I get a chance to go on Amazon. But I'm sitting with these beautiful black girls at the table. And you know I'm trying to engage each compensation because they're very nice looking so I'm trying to talk anyway so then going stays though and I'm killing and Dan I get to my Mike Tyson joke and nobody laughs. You know what I can imagine. One Mike Tyson is in the audience for CS. Mike is here and somebody goes out. Your Mike is in there. I was like Oh oh oh and then the blogger. What's HE GONNA do? Jamie you scare people out for breathing. Yeah and then dude at the table who is still noted this day and this is over thirty thirty years ago he goes. You're do joke. Better be funny. Crowd went looking him to look at me and I do the job and I got a standing ovation and after that Mike Tyson wants it to me said theories you still hanging out with Mike Tyson. It was just amazing and now we're getting ready to do the Mike Tyson of of story where you watch so ready for that. Oh Man oh you know. I can't well you've had such an amazing career anyway musically you know you're talking about the classical piano playing rate charges you know what I you you know. Just a Mickey do what the town is good to me eat away. They're all inside of you are all. They're all there and I think Quincy Jones all the time for Rachel. Because I when I was trying to get Rachel I was done Una. Mary Charlton he was older. And I needed to get a young Ray Charles so I went to Quincy Jones House amount. Raymond should raves incredible. You know the music. He taught me everything Jamie. Don't you see those records on the wall. There's Michael Jackson fifty four million records because Ray taught me the music So anyway so I said well I'm trying to get the young. He's got something for you and he gave me a cassette tape he said. Maybe there's something on cassette tape that you can find That that will help you and I was like okay. Great but now got. I had to rent a car from a rental car place whereas who has a cassette tape lady. So I'll put the cassette in I and what was brilliant on the cassette tape. Eulogies you here. Hi this is Donna shore from the Dinah Shore. Show with two very wonderful musicians Mister Kim Rogers and Mr Ray Charles and you hear Ray Charles Young down. I'm just happy to be here. I knew my music that is so grand you know and it was amazing and on the tape though he's talking talking talking and then Donna Shogo talk about the drugs right in. There's a pause for five seconds and he got uncomfortable. I use that is the DNA for Ray Charles and when he's talking about his music and he's talking about his women whatever he he was very in-command but when he was met with responsibility for his actions I make that so it was That was to meet him though. God that with it would place Mrs Charles. I just wanted to do the best I can to play us. What if you could play the blues man you can survey? Can you play the blues. And we sat down do pianos and started playing the blue. And then all of a sudden he transitioned. Its the loneliest. Monk which is treacherous waters oughta treacherous route when he just blew chances. I'm trying to catch up and I hit a wrong note. And you know his ears says it. What would you do that the wrong note? I said I don't know he says. Take your time to hit the right note. That's what life is taking your time to hit. Hit the right now. There's a lesson almost definitely. Yeah it's Kinda great but you know that's almost plane with is almost as good as winning the Oscar winning win an Oscar was probably the most joy artistically a person could have because Ray Charles was celebrated that movie was celebrated in such a way that everybody could get a get around and it was a it was a healthy character. It wasn't in a tragic character. It was a redemptive character in the music. And I remember that those moments of they couldn't believe that we got nominated and I almost blew it because I was so happy about the nomination and I was partying and having a good time and I don't know if maybe I was maybe doing the wrong things by being to just you know last days but it was important and I get a call from from Oprah Winfrey sure let me know that this is important. Hard Jamie Foxx Jimmy yards the best. You have to turn it down of it. Oh Oh because it is a campaign and we want to make sure that that you that that is recognized in the right way and so she says i WanNa bring you somewhere so we actually went back to Quincy Jones House and she takes me in the House and in that house are all these actors and actresses that I I watched growing up shaking my hand saying congratulations. We're proud of you and basically sort of sandwich counting on you. And then she says okay. Now do you want to meet the person you know that were honoring here tonight. Who wants to talk to you? So yeah he's right over there and it was Sydney boy. She takes me over to Sydney. PORTIA and I'm I'm literally like almost in tears. This is such an amazing moment and he whispered to me says your performance made me grow two inches. I give to you responsibility. He says I want you to be responsible for your work from here on out and was like I get myself together and we walk through that beautifully it was honored it was celebrated and I looked out in that audience thinking about my grandmother. I say in the speech you know about how she she was. The first acting teacher taught me how to you know you know how to do what I do. Some amazing and what you're doing in just mercy. I think builds on all that I've got to take a question or two from the Internet out there. So let's do Karen says when will you record some of your own music. You have a great while you do have a group. Thank you. WHA- recording some music right now yonkers new. That's I go back. Why not you know what? Music is so subjective. But we've been working on music. I got a couple of artists that we working working with J. Young my new artist I got new artist. Name Salevaa Bay. So we've been working on some things and I reached out to Jeremiah. My take is a prolific writer. Todd dollar sign. WHO's an incredible of writer and the Mamand man tank who I mean so Wa- getting together giving back are giving back and and and what it is? Is that when you have ask successive music of sometimes you never get a chance to reach those peaks but the but the records that we did do from you know I would throw parties and it was by design. I would invite musical people over because I was trying to get the music and I had a studio in my house and so that's where I'm at. Yea at a party at my house did a lot with him. I met him in my house and he says I I got a song. Dad Dad. I think you'd be good on Is called Slow Jeff. She say she was a mom. And I sung that song and I. I didn't think of it. 'cause he he showed me how to sing it but I was like I gotta say she won't some vind and what are you doing. I said well I gotTA sing it. You know I'm GONNA be singing. You know he didn't like that you know the high. It goes from there smile to their rookie. He's I don't do things the right way and I did aggressively saying it thinking. I don't know if this is GonNa work and then I'll left. I did a bad movie came back. They won't even say I'M NOT GONNA get into. They came back and it was number one in the country. So we'll get back to. That's great you know. We'll we'll take one last one kyle cases can. Can you think of one moment you've had on film set where he thought it can't get any better than the fee of several times of when we we did something for Ray Charles. It never got the movie where we created the Sangha Theater in sixty seven for our investors and they walk in and there I am with a thirty piece orchestra. We we we did a good term road. Tell everybody Ray Charles in town Donald Carter ran the clown so there moment was great eight and then the other moment was being on the set of any given Sunday. Because I'm a football enthusiasts and the football in a football quarterback so quarterback but there's is Lawrence Taylor Dick Butkus Warren Moon Terrell Owens Ricky watters on the on the football side and then on the acting side Alpa Chino You Know James Woods. Jimmy was I mean these guys are like you know. Ali Frazier in the set was just electric and Oliver Stone on at the helm and to this day. That movie is almost like right. Now there's A. There's a article out that the character I played. Willie beamon actually change as the narrative of black quarterbacks in the NFL so it was just fun. We shot it in Miami. I wore a lot of proud of this part a lot of Black Sea through shirts. Not Proud of that. But you can't get it off the alarm I have. I have to let you go usually end in song. Because there's just you know giving me a little bit bonker yard good seventies. That's Ah the old school of year starting the car. You're you're you're asked for. It's like a biographical song. Hello I'M GONNA make it the theme of the show interviewing you Jamie is like camping all the characters in your life come to life. Wow I I love coming here and Denzel. He I know you had to deserve. It wasn't right so we'll meet every Thursday arrive.

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NBA Playoffs & NFL Draft Final Recap

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NBA Playoffs & NFL Draft Final Recap

"This NBA playoffs and NFL draft. Final recap. Addition of the sports gaming podcasts is presented by our good pals over at my bookie dot AG. Mybookie dot AG is the official online. Sports of the sports gambling podcasts. Use the promo code S. G P fifty for a fifty percent deposit bonus play Wayne and get paid. Also brought to you by Amazon. Do I really need to explain Amazon? Of course, not why not shop at Amazon and support the podcast. Go to sports gaming packet has that com slash Amazon bookmark that link and support the podcast today. Welcome everyone to the sports gambling pack Sean stack in the money. Green was partner picks Ryan real morning, Kramer, right? You've had a few days even able to wind up your spin device over there and sin yourself. Whirling around convincing yourself that. Daniel Jones is the new franchise quarterback of the New York. Giants lay it on me. I guess I'm not prepared Utah utes me. I was gonna have to justify this two minutes before we went on air wasn't per. No, I yeah. There's no spin, Sean. Of course, you know. I'm not a big fan of the spin zone. Yeah. You're like O'Reilly. No, spins. No zone here. My dad always goes. You know, what I like about Bill O'Reilly? He's he doesn't spin it. He says, no spin. And that's what I like he just tells it like it is really thought he was going to say the the racism, but really thought that's where we're going here. I I gotta be honest. Sean nothing has changed in terms of my opinion of the situation. You haven't talked yourself into a more. Well, seem like you're on the fence you as you know, Sean, I'm I'm a bit of a pacifist. When it comes to my the willingness to jump off the cliff when it comes to situations like this. I mean, it took me a salad fifteen years before I was on the Dolan needs the die bandwagon. I I think you, you know, I'm this is what I'll say, here's my spin Daniel Jones, he saying he saying very Eli manning things, you know, I haven't put her bad. I haven't thought about what people are saying about too much because I'm a quarterback quarterbacks have to keep their mind. Right. And I'm like, okay. Cool. So on one hand he's going to be able to handle this, right? 'cause Sean as as I've said before I do have concerns about certain personality types, dealing with the media in New York. It's a little bit different of an animal the media, generally all the sports teams in the city. So so you have that. With that being said, I don't know. Hopefully, this builds the just a massive chip, hopefully, this this this create some sort of monster again, he went to a private school, right? And there's a lot of controversy walk on at private. There is a lot of controversy. Ryan around your k- metric, the the metric used to decide whether or not quarterbacks will succeed in the National Football League. How close their eyes are together. And you had stated that Daniel Jones past the K metric test a test, you arbitrarily decide on case by case basis. But there was there was some discussion on Twitter because I put out a video of just zooming in on. Daniel Jones is to Sarah McLaughlin, arms of an angel. Because I thought it was just hilarious. The look on his face. And there was a lot. There's a lot of people disputing whether or not he passed the K metric Ryan, please way. As I as I weighed in on Twitter. I mean full transparency I was like oh shit. I missed one Ryan. Did you miss this one? Did you miss this one because this is really bad because now I have. Because my my own metric rank your your your loyalty that came metric as a scientist supersedes our loyalty as the New York Giants fan. Yeah. You gotta start in in words out inside out when it comes to caring and turns out your number one. So I'm the number one priority. My came metric is more important to me than the fucking. Dave Gettleman lead giants. Yeah. I don't know. I'm a little concerned about that, Sean. I might miss that one. But I'm gonna say no that he doesn't know he barely passes. So he's got like a d plus, and the these degrees is nice nice stickwork on the video there. That was nice. If someone could take the draft compilation of the giants fans losing their mind after this is what I want. I wanna hear Roger Goodell say with the six pick in the two thousand nineteen NFL draft the New York Giants select, Dan, and as you saying Daniel Jones fade. Leads into Celine? Dion Titanic song. Dean big greasy Italian giant you. Remember, can you remember any draft pick with this sort of reaction when the eagles selected down of McNabb over Ricky Watters? There was there was some booing became kind of a new story granite. We're in a different media time. I'm sure there would have been reaction videos heart now fans are smarter. They know wasting a pick on this isn't a saquon insult ride wasting pick early on a on a running back isn't a good idea. So they wouldn't have boo'd the McNabb picked probably because I feel like NFL fans become more savvy now, but have you seen any sort of reaction to a draft pick quite like, the Daniel Jones from the media and from the fan base it self? It's it's strange. The strangest part is Gettleman is like, yeah. You guys are all going to be wrong. Let's see. How crazy in three years? Why my the only guy who sees this chip Kelly comparison the whole, I'm right? You guys don't know what you're talking about. Wait 'til this pay pays off cultures better than talent culture beat scheme. I think I whole one cultures important. But when you're when you are yourself toxic you become blind to your cultural deficiencies, and while I think get almonds trying to build a locker room that was once successful to him or a team. He was part of. I'm not sure that's the way of the the modern NFL. Now. I don't I also think there's this kind of weird like your grandpas little races. Just because he's from a different low on I need to hear more about the Beckham thing. Although Beckham not exactly representing. Well, so far flavor Twi because he said the giants. He's only a cancer two losing teams. What else does he done in Cleveland? It's caused a problem. I saying stuff like all right? So if let's say, you're not del Beckham. And you don't believe and you believe that auto Beckham is a problem. Why is he a problem? We opened his guy wise this fucker opened his mouth, and why isn't he just playing football right essentially shut up somewhere on the spectrum of that. Well by him responding in saying shit and making videos, I it's just more of the same. Right. I get everyone's their own brand. He's completely entitled to do that. I don't have a problem with him doing its part of the reason he's the number one or was top jersey in terms of sales. All of that being said, you're just going to continue to stoke people that don't like you. And it won't matter to people who do. So that that being said, I just it dumpster fire the more. I look at this Brown's team the more. It's just it's not going to end well FTP fade the public. You got to any hours too, many eccentric ALPHA's in that room. There can only be one man with the biggest dick and Nick foles isn't in that locker. He's not any update on Daniel Jones is a member measurement. No. You haven't gotten that. Because that was that could be the Lynch the metaphorical and figurative Lynch pin if he can win the locker room each you mentioned, the New York media, and then this became another news story. There was too big news stories out of the out of the giants NFL draft the other one, of course is six draft pick Corey Ballantyne getting shot and his teammate also got shot and passed away. Unfortunately. They are sound like they were outside a nightclub something down. Now. Hold on. Breaking news. More of a question was Marvin Harrison anywhere in the air. Too soon. Arison? What is he up to hold on allegedly murdered a guy with like an old time your rifle, just Google Google Marvin Harrison, and like musket and you'll you'll figure out that we got to do true crime pot. Just pointing out that Marvin Harrison definitely murdered a guy. But unrelated to that Corey Ballantyne got shot and pretty crazy story by all accounts from what everyone can tell they were innocent victims. However that did not stop Mike francesa you had seen this. Right. Well, we I dare I comment about the great Mike francesa because drew us and negative review. But I told you he is your racist. Uncle. You don't have to tell me what he said. I'm sure he said something that was kind of basically implied that this guy was a low character guy. He goes, gentlemen, he talks about, you know, drafted all these high character guys in the meanwhile, one of the guys 'cause gets shot. Now doesn't sound like this Corey Balentine was the tag like he literally was just having a good time celebrating. Yeah. The guy was how drafted he's he's having some cocktails. He's living it up as everyone would in that situation course, Marvin Harrison junior is a four star receiver prospect out of Philly. So hopefully that gets to watch him play. But if you already university, I probably would just let him in no questions asked. Let's say he's getting offers from big time schools, all Sean addio. He's he could be a tiger. Oh, wow. Next year. So look out Marvin Harrison now that guy possibly character issues because he's he's tied to his dad any other Twitter account. So right before we slide over to the NBA playoffs. Any other any other NFL draft and fell news notes nuggets? You wanna get to before we move on? Well, I wanted to see if you're gonna stand by your incessant sighting of the the ringer in your attack Daniel Jones now that was just fun to throw it. You're just in the moment. Yeah. I was in the moment. I got caught up next thing. You know, you you drew soi Scott my forehead, he realized it was inappropriate. I was brainwashed. So I was in. I was suffering. I was overwhelmed. I had a su- now me of negative. Daniel Jones articles takes podcast way to sort through and accidents. You used the take from the ringer. And listen, I I gotta look inward. I'm to break down every week. I break down my own podcast tape and looking back on that. I could do better. And I apologize listeners. That's the funniest thing. You said all year, Sean that I listen to the show watch the tape unlikely. Why did I need to listen to the show? I live it Ryan. I live. I agree. I agree. You want me to talk about the eagles draft. I will might. Miles sanders. He looks great. The guy's going to be getting a lot of reps. I love. This are Sega Whiteside kid a little worried about Andre Dillard. I'm I'm here in it seemed like a steal. But I'm hearing some potential confidence issues which is always a red flag for for a guy there in the trenches. And wait. So he's having confidences issues in Nick foles, isn't even he's not in the locker. That's a horrible sign. That's the thing. You wanna hear Billy? He doesn't have confidence issues luck in pussy. The baby scared a block the linemen. Well, you could. And I like making fun of people who are scared of stuff who having Zayed lying. Did he revolted? Good. Well, quick. Well, here's the thing. You got a villas victim on U T. I I made fun of Brandon Brooks for having medical anxiety sitting out of jail. You you having Zion plane in the games. Try watching the games try live in this Braida Brooks. But Brooks he powered through his anxiety. He got some Zanny bars the guy straightened out and he's dominant offensive garden. So maybe the same thing will happen with Andrea Dillard, you mentioned the bullying, and whenever you talk, bullying, you gotta talk about the Richie incognito. Jonathan Martin story, which routine cognitive got. Listen, he was boy you shouldn't play. But he he really he was really the fog. I for the bullying culture that is the National Football League. He got he got come from the dolphins reemerge the bills. But then Jonathan Martin Jonathan Martin eventually washed league because he wasn't good. That's possibly why. Why Richie incognito was bullying him as his half white? And then he went completely crazy. Do you? Remember that? Yeah. Yeah. Jonathan Martin went completely crazy. He took all these photos of guns and tagged Richie incognito. And basically Jonah the Martin was like the lost member of the trenchcoat. Mafia, thankfully, he never. He never shot up anywhere. And he was arrested. He was working real estate at the top so full circle with the Jonathan Martin saga. Speaking of spin. Yes. That I was gonna say full circle just spent we we did a spin. We did spend Ryan. Spending the rock. Spells over the national the association I like to call NBA action is heating up. We are taping this right now during the end of third quarter warriors up eighty two seven five against the rockets. You wanna get in this game right now. Well, by the time, you're listening to it's already over. But in game wagering is available over at my bookie dot AG. Jeez. The official online sports. Look the sports gambling pod tastic food. They got it all got the Khaimah series odds playoff series. Exact results. Got weird sports like hockey baseball. And the soccer thing that seems to be sweeping the nation overseas. Play win. And oh, even game of thrones. Which I'm told is very good show. Ryan don't don't spoil having watched this. Okay. I wish I could spoil it much like Shawn McCoy spoil the vengeance. Sequel and in rage thirds everywhere wish I could do that to you. Fortunately, I don't watch the show. I'm too busy stack and cash over my bookie dot AG play win and get paid over my book dot AG using the promo code S. She p fifty four a fifty percent deposit bonus. Yeah. In. There is a horse in the derby called win win win, Sean. So okay started start doing that research that is off the Jay rock album. You probably don't run you don't keep up with modern music. You probably haven't even heard old town road. Love it. You do love all of it. Do you? Love the regular or the Billy Ray Cyrus remix better. Probably not the one with Billy Ray Cyrus. Oh, see that's wrong. The Billy Ray Cyrus remix straight fire. Okay. See, right. I remember I get accused of being the old man of the podcast. But Lee, you are the you're really the old square guy. Yeah. Well, how have you not heard old town road yet? I I have. Oh, you have. Oh, totally. Yeah. Totally. I'm hip to shown totally. You wanna make a Champions League pick or what do you wanna do next? Well, why don't we since? We're taping this live, and I just talked about the live odds over at my book. Data g why don't we place alive wage right now. The warriors are up eighty to seventy five the live line is minus six and a half minus one twenty five for Golden State Houston. It's plus six and a half might Asana five which way go. Houston's plus six and a half for the gallon. Okay. And they're down seven. I mean, I'm going to stick with the warriors. I think what did we when we were talking with Zachary Lear or last week? I it just seemed like you wanted to play like so many people were in on this rockets team. I mean, we we saw all the the buzz about the refereeing edge tonight. Oh, my God Scott foster, or I guess last night, depending on you're listening to this. I will I'll just lay the points. I'll stick with the fate. What was the game line seven and a half? I think it was it was probably closer to six and a half. Okay. So it hasn't moved much. I'll stick with the warriors here, and you know. Ryan you can't fly with that that much cash com. He's one step closer. I'm gonna make you pick the champions leash on. Okay. Give me a pick who's playing. I know our Ajax is fine. It's I I know I like pronouncing the Ajax speaking. If you wanna listen to champion, I won't make Sean make. But if you wanna listen to Champions League, you should check out the EPL show, Billy Bata. He sends me these texts which God bless Billy. I do enjoy that. He he sends me these techs, but just telling me how awesome. Just he's forty four nine shot. It is impressive. Why are more people not betting on this man's picks? Again, I don't know. What did Billy picking the Ajax game? I act I don't know. You gotta check out the podcast. There's a game tomorrow. You have time to download it. The beauty of the EP L shows are like fifteen thirty minutes long and is burying out just to where do I have to go to get that podcast. Well, you could you could go over to subscribe dot the S GPS dot com. You could also go to sports gambling podcast dot com. Both ways are good, Sean. Yes. What are we NBA? Right. Talk about it. What do you want? So what do you think? So I threw out a a Celtics a Celtics winning six, Sean. Remember that? I do remember that. I also thrive tough right now, Celtics. Why's that they took a game? Yeah. So then they have to win both in Boston. Yeah. Not everyone wins home games out. Not six games, still tough. I you don't think Milwaukee's gonna steal one in Boston. This is Milwaukee in seven. I I think I nailed the way to play. And that was over there. Well, yeah, we also were on that. I think I nailed it when I said wait till wait till the box la- game. This is what we were saying Zach wait until the bucks lose a game which they did game on and then come in and take bucks for the series. Yeah. I guess I should've arbitrage that. No, I'm I'm heading over to my book to see what I actually wagered on the I'm heavy on the over as well. What was the over five and a half game? Yeah. That was. I mean, how does that not hit? I laid nine hundred to win five hundred. So that's pretty I mean, that's pretty minus one eighty there you go. I can do math. Right. Let's talk about my Philadelphia. Seventy Sixers to win. What a win in Toronto in bead head the shits still just showed up isn't that the greatest that? He had the shit's just when it's just you know, it happens to everyone just for it to happen like during a really important moment in a basketball game. Yeah. He came out. He said, hey, man. I got the shits. I mean, magin you magin. He he's he's doing his thing. Right. Any fucking just throws a dunk down and just can't just shit everywhere. Well, there is something with the mobs mopping-up shit. They're all is also something to guy that big guy. Seven footer having the shits like just when I was a kid, Sean. I used to think honestly, I think what the problem is the he's from Cameroon. Right. You come over to America. You're not you. You're getting overwhelmed with the fast food options. He probably doesn't realize he probably doesn't realize you can't just go to tackle bell and have like a number five in a bunch of Baja blast before the game. And how old is he to? He's super young exactly when you were that age. Do I I could eat like two grilled stuff burritos. Yeah. Pavel ism. But I would still every once in a while. Roy by inside. So I think he's lived here long enough to understand. What can you may? Maybe maybe maybe he's got pots skittles everywhere. Or maybe listen, sometimes you go broad you can't drink the water. I don't know what. Those Canadians are doing to it. Maybe he got some Montezuma's revenge thing what the Canadian equivalent would be. He did have to leave leave the country. That's always dangerous can't drink the water over there. The real story here is and I seen as better as the seventy Sixers fan. The seventy Sixers bench the seventy Sixers bench has been playing. So well, no one noticed what they did game one because Leonard just. Just what he put up forty five. So it didn't really matter. But. He's been dominant. And that was the big story line coming in was that the Sixers bench couldn't hang. But. Twenty six to five and game. Two twenty four to ten in game one. They're up forty two fifteen bench points, and that's all on the road. Now, they come home in Philly. How do they not win game three? Now. Right now, my bookie dot AG has a home dog. Are you kidding me? Plus one. Yeah. I think we're going to see a little snake action in this series. I think it's gonna go back split. But I do agree with you. They came three is where they now. I think Philly wins game three Toronto caged animal style wins games for I can see a desk, resets. I could see a desperate Toronto team snaking game four but game three I really liked it. And they they won on the road. They wanna play off road game with Embiid only scoring twelve points. And that's when you have Jimmy Butler, Jimmy Butler grown Asmat. Ben simmons. It would be a fun guy to root for. Oh, dude. He's awesome. Like, I really hope they extend him because he's that we talked about being old guys over here. And he's the old guy in the locker room. Granted he's only twenty nine, but he's like that old angry guy, and you got him beat and Simmons who are kind of more of the they fall more in the Belania type checking their phones, and that kind of Butler is the dude that just there's there's binary it's either white or black. It's not like he wasn't a kid that you could like play. Pick-up football with as a kid because he would just be putting people into bodybags. So yeah off. So the problem is is that. He can sustain the intensity can the team. Well, I think they've had moments where they haven't been in intense in this game and even game game four against the Brooklyn. Nets those are games this team would of loss last year. And I think they realize like oh shit. This is the kind of intensity you need and Butler is just a dude who just doesn't like to lose. He doesn't I do wonder if Ken last like comme string three of these in a row series Bryce is down to minus two or minus ten for the raptors plus one seventy five for the Sixers. Yeah. I'm sitting at a plus on ninety unfortunately, I bet that early. But I think before it tipped it was up to two forty. Yeah. It was and she'll sh I'm sure after game one you probably could have got like a two seventy because no one was singing the seventy Sixers had a chance just based off how good co I looked in inquires going to have his his moments. I mean, it's he had a good game to it's just the rest of the team just not there. And I think going on the road to in a hostile environment Phillies going to be tough Toronto in Denver are so similar in that like. It just it will not make you watch them play. And when they win you're like, oh, that's pretty good team. And then when they lose like team has some. Yeah. When they lose you're like, how did I not see this before this totally makes sense why they lost? But strangely. I think. I'm looking at the two the two games that are tipping on Wednesday. And I see a Portland Denver series. Where I think every t- every team they're going to defend home court the whole way, I think Toronto Philly. I I think each one of these teams is I think they're they're capable of dropping dropping at least a game at home. And I do think this one's going go go deep now. Because I think it gets it probably goes the game five goes back to Toronto to. And if that's the case, you know, it's probably going seven Sixers went four two. Okay. Lock it up. It's just I gotta be on the Sean it doesn't it? Just doesn't feel natural you being a basketball. Sixers fan. It's just odd. What's wrong with it? It just doesn't it doesn't seem right. It's it seems it just seems odd. Seems like your passion isn't real. You're just waiting for football season that you're trying you're trying to be a good citizen Philadelphia. Jimmy Butler is really getting me. You don't want. Your Embiid is fun because he's legitimately hilarious. I like some of the stuff Ben Simmons does. But Jimmy Butler that just like fuck you give me the ball. I'm gonna just go up and just get these tough contested points and just hit clutch threes. Like, that's a guy that is just fund to root for pricey a lot of yourself Jimmy, Butler, exactly. I mean, Jimmy Butler. Jimmy Butler is the only guy that makes you play the rock. You saw right now on this team this dude, there's no quickness guy. So give me the Sixers plus one at home against the raptors home dog. Speaking of said, nuggets trailblazers spreads minus three and a half. Total Sydney to nineteen. I'll kick things off give me the nuggets keeping the nuggets Portland team NAT quite the same team on the road. It's a pretty big difference between home and away splits. That's what one seventeen point eight at home only a hundred eleven on the road. One four ATS in their last five on the road one in five ATS or last six against Denver. Denver just seems to have their number Jamal Murray. He's he's shooting much better. He's got his confidence. Back think. Denver. I was kind of on board with Portland doing something here. But I just really liked what I saw the Denver one game. Sean. I think I think they're gonna hold serve for a while. And then it's gonna come down to who wants to win a game and Lillard, you know, the. Who you take? And which guy are you taking over Lillard to to go out and win win a game. Win a game. Maybe you shouldn't win a game. When your back is against the wall. All of that being said nuggets nuggets go up to. Yeah. Right. And you like them to cover minus three and a half. Yeah. I'll take the cover. And I I would also say once Denver wins take the trailblazers win the series. Oh, so Denver Denver gets up to you. Like you like, maybe taking a little trouble price. Go to again, expect fairly expected result. It's currently plus one ninety five. Ten I think it will go higher than that to thirty to fifty maybe higher. Ryan worth noting though teams were down to oh, not good twenty teams in two hundred eighty two seven game series of comeback back to you think palm twenty two hundred two hundred eighty two really gonna seven percent percent. So so you're saying there's chance so plus two twenty four on a seven percent out. No. That's not a good math. That's not a good math. You're applying a miscreants set of data point, Sean. Okay. Break it down for me. Well, you're this series has nothing to do with any of the other series. That's true. Right. It's not it's not like result, which clearly has a memory. It's not like the trailblazers nuggets have played two hundred eighty two times L, but NBA teams have and they fit that data set if you will do, you know? How many series winners Daimler Lillard has as compared to the rest of the NBA of all time. You see the stat? He there there's been four series winners like buzzer-beaters to win an NBA series. K? There's been four. Since I'm guessing there's some sort of qualification here. But I don't know when the census from Dame Lillard has two of them. So if this comes down to a game seven on my five seconds. I'm gonna go to my bookie dot AG and get like a live wager in I just saying, you're you're statistics are stupid. I just throw the stupid. It means nothing. The people can pull ups this. Hey, eighty percent of them can take take the trailblazers. I got seventeen to one win the west in my pocket. Really? So. Do you agree or disagree? Ryan that Dame Lillard shot to win the series. Was it a bad shot as Paul George said? The lot of shots. He takes her bad shots. That's stupid. It's especially stupid. I saw someone had this take on Twitter. I don't a steal it. But just to have those comments sitting next to Russell Westbrook. Come on is the king of the bad shot that goes, well, and but. Russell westbrook. The pull up let me just throw a fucking hard liner at the ba- at the the Ramage's clank sin. Brian. A little break here. Talking about our good pals over at Amazon, I don't need. I don't need to say on Amazon, man. Why do you really I'm talking about Amazon? This isn't the first you ever heard of Jeff Bezos, the amazing work. He does over at Amazon soon. Drones robots. We'll be delivering your materials to your house. Get in with the robots while getting his good over at Amazon before they turn on us. And eventually murderer saw us all support the global, nationalist agenda. Amazon. All you gotta do sports gaming podcasts dot com slash Amazon bookmark that link and use it every time you shop at Amazon support the podcast. It's pretty Brian. Do you use Amazon? Sometimes I bet you probably don't even have the link bookmark. Not only do I have the link bookmark, Sean, but I have one hundred percent. I. I spent some time making sure other people have it bookmarked. Hell, yeah. Sounds like your lady friend, right? It sounds like my lady what does that mean? Well, who is this mysterious person that you also ends family friends people who leave the computer locked. I do have some friends. Okay. And they all says a as a self proclaimed hermit, you know, you know, not one to brag about your friend interactions. I mean, gen- generally social interactions are inefficient. Why why bother? Listen, if I don't have to speak, that's less energy. I have to spend to process the same thought. It's just for me. Oh, man. Speaking of like, nerds and weirdos. I'm sure you deal at the tone in the IT industry. But. I took my my wife out on a date night date night Saturday night. Okay. Took her up to the mount Wilson observatory. Okay, Angeles, national they had a stargazing party cool on the newsletter. I'm like, this ends cool. You go up you look at through some telescopes and have you been to one before? No, I didn't understand. What would happen what the deal was? And well now there's there's separate events where they have the gigantic like hundred foot and sixty foot telescopes open that wasn't this. This was a bunch of nerds hanging out in a parking lot with their own telescope, and I saw some cool stuff. But also just the people watching was in credible. The nerdiness it was like every one of them was the the comic book guy from the Simpsons. And imagine a guy would like a thirty foot telescope strapped to the roof of his. Oval station wagon talking about globular clusters. I was like ready to burst out laughing. Every time something my wife was just like punching me in the Harvard. I just kept going there all such nerds. They're all such fucking nerds. No lockers to be seen. No. I wanted to throw a that's fun Robert Mays. Did you were you were you made fun of because you did not have a telescope? Well, so here tach to your car. Here's the thing. So they bring all their telescopes. They set them all up and stuff. I get immediately tell they're just such huge nerds. And so they would you got there early. You were there. No, it was like they start at like seven Iran to midnight. And you can just like oh people. Come and go, you come and go. They get real pissed off. If you turn on like a flashlight or did light lights one guy had like a laser pointer pointing to different stars. And he was pointing at a plane, really enraged inert. He's like, hey, stop pointing the laser at the plane. Okay. They're I'm gonna have to take the laser pointer or the FBI is going. Oh, man. It was just, but I really enjoyed joking to the to the nerds there telescope Merz. 'cause you know, they would set the telescope and go like, oh, hey, what is that? I m three university globular cluster thirty thousand light years away. Wow. Imagine how much that Uber ride is. He laughs so hard. My Khuda gras was. The guy with gigantic telescope on the on the roof of his Volvo station wagon. I got the biggest telescope here. Matters. The love that. Did he like put? It's like hitting fucking home runs. A T shirt on. It was great. It was really most. Nice median just messing with some nerds. And and also getting credit for planning romantic evening. Oh, really? That none of that sounded romantic, but you know, women are Ryan you make an attempt and they get all. So you all excited the attempt. That's cool. Final game. Of the NBA slate. That's available right now over at my bookie may third Milwaukee Bucks. Getting a point and a half in Boston Celtics one in favorites, which radio here on our Zagan zagging. What do you feel like? I mean, I guess what was your takeaway from game to game game? One will sorry me teed up game. One was the very obvious like oh. Coaching advantage? Like they were confused in game two is the adjustment. So I guess. I game two is very obvious to because it felt like early on the Celtics were competitive, and then they just kinda realise. Oh, you already got. We already got their job already stole the game. Let's pack it in we'll head home. I mean you look at the box score. What a Cairo Irving half nine points. Here's what I'm going to say. I think you can look in the box score. You can say we'll Kyrie's going to have a game at some point. Yeah. But I think you can also say this. I don't think Boston is enjoying the fact that people are acting like Milwaukee's this hard core. Sports town. Well, there was a lot of time. I don't know what you can say about Greek people that super offensive and racist yogurt eaters coming. Yeah. I I think the crowds Jovi fucking wheel. It's a Friday night. People are going to be lit up. I am going home team all these games, especially these game threes, go home. Kyrie Irving coming off a horrible game. He bounces back. Jalen Brown gets more efficient chats, I like breads Brad Stevens is the better coach. And I think the better coach will make adjustments bio mile. Yeah. So I like them a lot as a home dog here. I mean, the Celtics this year's a home dog. What do you think that is? It's got to be good. Right. I think Brad Stevens in general is a home dog is something you wanna get behind. Yeah. So what's that number one and a half? I mean, it's not huge. There are dog though at home. Yeah. That's not correct. Now, the favorite shown. Yeah. No sorry. You're right. They're favored by minus one and a half minus fifteen I still think they win. This that changes. I mean that makes more sense than than being dog. I'm I just I think the crowds gonna matter. And I think I think they're crowd is going to want to be like proud parents saying Jaanus, he's not ready to take the next step. Well, you know, these are house, Sean, you know, you saw them you saw the video we want Boston like. I know they've gotten soft because they've won all these championships. But listen as someone who grew up just never wanting to hear that horrible accent. It. You don't ask for Boston? You just don't do it. You don't want them around. There's no valley fucking wheel. You want to hear that? It was honestly who wants to like that accent is borderline like that should be classified as a speech impediment. It was I'm being offensive to a lot of people to listen to our show. I like Boston lay the points. Yeah. I. It's really hilarious that. It's just funny because bossom was are they had their already talking so much shit about a grand slam the chowder special or whatever it's going to be called where all their teams when shave chips, and you could. Bruins lost in the Celtics loss and Tom Brady accidentally strawberry. Yeah. You gotta be careful. So they're they're falling off the bat. Ryan sorry, Boston. Capri. You don't have a speech. We got a Thursday night Thursday. We will be taken what we coming up Kentucky Derby. Yeah. We got Kentucky Derby shown, the parlay. Queen herself will be call an end. She's also got some hockey stuff up there. And we joke around that we don't know shit about hockey. But that's why we hired the parlay Queen. She's got some strategies here for round two of the playoffs. Check that out and the Wells Fargo championship or boy, Steve's got all that stuff DFS bed intres- picks and more EPL, which again, I've been told is some form of non-american soccer. So check that out as well. Shawn's MLS only for participating in the Spurs game and gas and rape review share on I tunes among us. Get get in the game. Oh, sweet merch. We got the inside Vegas shirt the baby f- wail shirt. The college experience shirt the baby f- in whale hoodie. And of course, the classic the shirt that started the cultural revolution, these sports gaming pack. Ask a shirt and classic hoodie all available or at sports game. Went back as dot com slash March, four sports pack s I'm Sean stack money green. And he is Ryan shun drew lock sixteen to one to win the rookie of the year. Kramer, let it ride.

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June 12  Hour 2  Nuggets v. OKC Match-up |  Movie Review: Any Given Sunday

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June 12 Hour 2 Nuggets v. OKC Match-up | Movie Review: Any Given Sunday

"Minutes after the second and final hour of the week. Final hour the week for US anyway. Got Classics Going Tonight High, school football got baseball going tonight, is it? IS IT FOOTBALL! It's a classic. It's going to be great excited about it. We've been doing Thursday night. I listened no matter what because they're always great games. They're going to find the best games that we have that. We've done in the past. They're finding games from Lake. I mean back in the archives, so it's really cool to get some of these. Some of these Games going Clark's. He's putting together the classic from. Was a two thousand seven. It was the three a state basketball final between Eaton and Ken Denver March, tenth, two thousand seven. That's going to be playing tonight. And it's you can hear it and. We kind of you know the team here. We listened to it. We're like that. Is it quality going to be acceptable I? Mean you're talking two thousand seven. Thirteen years ago, it's it's a long time ago. Compared to what the what audio Usta or what it sounds like now and but it sounds pretty good. It's definitely we used to use these old cell Casters Colfax Box about as big as my headphones case here. and. They to plug your phone into it. Call the station. And, then you put your headphones, so you're basically just on a cell phone, but it goes through a cell Castro, so it's supposed to help your voice out a little bit, but it definitely has a different quality to kind of an old am radio sound quality to so I hope you'll enjoy it. It's kind of a different take. Again! It's quite a while I wasn't even here yet. Keep believe that I wasn't even here. I ca. I started the radio station in two thousand eight, so that would have been the last year. That I didn't do any kind of games the next year I guess. That following year that same year that August I came in and started doing some football games with Clark Also my first game I, ever did. I was so nervous to be on the air. I didn't Jabaar until halftime. Clark's looking at me like hey, you can jump in and I'm like. Suggest whenever you're comfortable whenever you're comfortable, give it a shot. And I was just too nervous to do. Now, why don't we go dig that game? I'd like to hear that I. don't even Classic Reedy that's gotTa be a two thousand eight, and it's going to be the first game. Well I don't know if there was the first game of the season because. I had been here a little bit. And then I finally you know I was working with people here. And then they sent me up with Clark and say Hey Clark will bring you out there and show you the ropes about broadcasts, because that's what I was kind of wanting to get into is just more of the play-by-play stuff and decided I'd like to hear myself talk about myself. More on these radio shows than that, so, but that was I loved it, and I did that with Clark for about three or four years. But. Yeah, the first game was. Was Rough. I remember the first time Clark left me. texting in right now, I gotcha Gotcha man I got. You don't worry that information. The first time Clark left me. We're doing games and he's like hey i. Suppose game right so he's like hey I made plans I got to go. Get my pick up my kiddos and all that stuff, so you can handle the post game. Right and I'm like so I'm pretty sure and Clark loves this. That I said Clarke had to go take care of some business so pretty sure everybody thought that business might have meant me went to the restroom or something like that, so Clark has always a hard time about that. Thanks for telling everybody I had to go. There for a while, but that was tough. Those were and I remember it was at it was at valley. Go. Crush there and a bunch of people are coming up to where I'm broadcasting. Just listen to the post game, so I'm like my first time ever couple people sitting down there, just listening to him. This is I'm talking to you. This is weird. But. It was really cool and I tell you what folks are preps. Radio scene is just it's never been better. It continues to grow. Very upset, it was it was a bummer this year not to be able to have high school baseball on station. Is something relatively new us? We started high school baseball coverage about four or five years ago, and that was something that really picked up. A lot of steam unfortunately didn't get to do it. This year didn't get to finish the entire basketball season with state tournament being cancelled as well so we're excited. Thirteen days thirteen teams presented by PDC. Energy will start up in. The guys go out and talk all things high school football every day, a new football team training camp focus, so we're looking forward to that. Nobody does a better job in not just the state. I've not I've yet to hear of another radio station doing something like this where they put together high school training camp coverage for several different football teams, so she'll be a lot of fun. I finished text line, three, one, nine, nine, six, three, one, nine nine six power to play sports poll. Question of the day got us in because we had no Kisla, going off and Joe Parker talking about you know what's really needed this year for C. issue to be viable to continue to be that way I suppose, but they really need to have a big year, and that that means attendance, so we were talking about that a bit. What do you like better? Now if you Hugh Stadium Canvas Stadium now if you're just saying Hugh Stadium because. It's the outdoors and outdoors, but it's it's feels like you're camping under the stars and all that stuff and I. Get it, I. Understand that but the stadium. There's no comparison. Canvas Stadium. Is is one of the top stadiums in the country. I mean I don't know top twenty, maybe certainly the best of the mountain west, so it's a it's a phenomenal stadium, but you know we're kind of torn. We're going back and forth here. I think we were fifty fifty last time I checked, and then we then it was jumping up to Hughes was dominating for Awhile. And now it's Canvas Stadium and then I. Think just recently went back fifty percents, so go vote to the whole show dot com. Give it a vote and we'll see where this thing ends at the end of the day I finished text line, three, one, nine, nine, six, three, one, nine six. We're reviewing any given Sunday coming up Colfax first time you've seen this one it is. Have watched, it was ninety eight came out. Something like that was like twelve or something, so that was. That movie kind of it was one of the sports movies that wasn't like the Rudy or you know all these really feel good stories. It kind of had A. Depressing quality to it that will get to the second hour, but it was supposed to be kind of more realistic. Take on what professional football really look like. I have I had such a hard time with the fake teams and the fake leagues and all that stuff because we're, aren't they? The Shark Shark. Yeah, and I mean their logo was just. Chunk. Well, the cover somebody pointed it out. I shared the cover this morning on twitter and somebody pointed it out and said I forgot how I think it's Jamie, Fox, the cover like spread out with his arms up in the air. They're like cows. Small is arms. quarterback. It's kind of crazy, so we'll get to that. In the second era, next segment Chris Dempsey yesterday. We're taught. We broke down the potential matchup between the nuggets and the rockets, and what that might look like and he, he said Yeah. That's probably what's going to happen, but he wouldn't be shocked if Denver ends up taking on Oklahoma City. The thunder are. If they were in a bigger market. This would be the Cinderella Story. This would be the beginning a lot more play than we're giving them right now, but there in Oklahoma City and it was Russell Westbrook that may and Kevin Durant and obviously James Harden at one time made that team popular. They were on the map because of those three guys in Westbrook continued to carry that tradition on until until they decided listen. It's just time to move on, so they did. But This team is deceptive, mean Chris Paul after his stint with the clippers. We thought all right. He's going to go to okay see. His career is GONNA fade, they're they're going to be in pure rebuild mode, and he'll just have to that. That kinda sucks for Chris Bali. We all felt bad for the guy. Then you know. They get Dennis Schroder in Ouro Guy Danilo Gallinari. New Orleans Noelle's their stephen and I like Steven Adams. Man I mean He. He's he's. He's a tough center. He's he's he's right. He had a great relationship with Russell Westbrook, too. So I'm thinking all those things. No way I mean the thunder. We're going to be a rebuild team. But now here we sit and. The thunder have has just a good shot to at least make some noise. So, the nuggets played them twice. They didn't get to their second two games. Before the season was suspended but the thunder sitting at the fifth spot fifth spot. Would you believe that there are over the rockets? Sitting over James Harden and Russell Westbrook. That's gotta be a really good feeling for the thunder. I mean. Now westbrook. We knew it that was he. He might have wanted to be there long term, but they. Both parties came to it and said yeah, we. We know what it is. It's time to move on, but I mean. If you're thunders thunder fan. You got to feel pretty good about that. You are at this point you're tied with Houston. But you're above them in the standings. And both guys that just recently left you over the last few years, well James Harden's booth with rockets for awhile, but James Harden Russell Westbrook for the rockets. They're supposed to be the Big Star team. The thunder supposed to be tanking and thunder are ahead of them. Interesting? Perspective has been obviously. One of the main guys to to get a lot of that credit you know against the against the nuggets. He's had some great games. The last time these two teams faced the thunder, one one, hundred, thirteen to one zero, one that was after the All star break. That's where the nuggets were going up and down. Chris Paul had twenty nine points. The nuggets turn it over. Like crazy didn't play great in that one joker had his he got his, but you know turnovers were a killer, and that the nuggets playing some very inconsistent basketball Mike Malone after that game quote, we just didn't take care of the ball in value the ball for the entirety of the game and you're not GonNa win many Basketball Games when you do that and quote so. That we we saw a sloppy nuggets team. At the end of the season at the end of the current season I guess and this team is is deceptive. You know in those games against the nuggets that that win that they had. Back in back in late February. Everything was of going right for the thunder and everything went wrong for the nuggets now. I love the nuggets in this series. I gotta think that in any given series. Yes, I'm taking I'm taking the nuggets I mean look at this. You had your Paul, millsap. Had Only two points in that game. You know yet joker with thirty two points. He had two turnovers. I mean millsap three turnovers Barton at two tournaments. It was just one of those games where he was Kinda just weren't very efficient over Barton and MILLSAP had the pluses in that game plus five and plus three, and so that you know the your turn the ball over your team's inactive. They just weren't mcgarry. Harris was one for seven in that game and field goal attempts. You had Jim Moret for sixteen. Jeremy Grant was one for six. At his old stomping grounds to so it was just you know. Joker got his at thirty two points, but you know five assists seven boards. Dominated points wise, but was okay and the other categories, but then you look at the thunder. Did that Game Chris Paul With Twenty Nine Danilo Gallinari? Fifteen Stephen Adams with nineteen points and seventeen rebounds. He dominated so there's your fear factor folks. Is You're looking into call yokich kitchen thinking too skinny. Going up against the guy like Stephen Adams would be interesting. But I like. I like the reinvention. I like the fact that the joker who knows when we again we haven't heard his mindset just yet, but maybe he's going to be able to even a little, a little quicker and have an advantage over these big body. Guys 'cause because he's not he he could. He could get down and pound with the best of them in the NBA. You know he could move around a little bit, but he wasn't dominant in that area. Guy Never dunks never taken a guy his where he's at his best. If he's back in a guy, he has a quick spin. Quick Layup, right or quick fadeaway. Might be able to do that a little bit better after he's cut a few pounds, so be ready for that. Thunder could be a match up there. The Cinderella story good for them I, think they They finished the season. They were at over there forty two wins or something like that so I mean they. They surprised a lot of people forty wins. Excuse me surprised a lot of people and they're right. Right there behind the nuggets to the nuggets play them twice in this game. Stand in these game season. They play him twice Denver's only a game and a half ahead or two two and a half games ahead of them, so got to be careful here with how this all works out. This is nothing is set in stone for the nuggets might end up facing in that first class eighteen minutes after the hour. When we come back, we'll. We'll step aside, and we'll do something we've been doing for the for the spring and summer months. It was we do our. Movie Review We have two first rounders that have made it so far. The gentleman with Matthew mcconaughey. And Dumb and dumber. Jim Carey, so we'll see. Is this going to finally going to get to number three in that mix eighteen minutes after the hour. Don't go anywhere. It's the whole show powered by. Missing Sports on Kfi K enjoy some instant classics with KPFK a classics, every Thursday and Friday night on thirteen ten KFI in thirteen ten. KFI Dot Com get her day started right with up-to-date news, weather and sports mornings with Gail. Six Am to nine am weekdays on thirteen ten KFI. This. Is Jordan Davis FROM THE UNIVERSE SOON? Colorado and you're listening to the whole show on thirteen ten KFI K. No Games on TV right now. Bags. Come. Come on, come on, come on money. I keep the. Offer. Down to the nitty how much? Only a little bit Harrison. addity. Any given Sunday and Nineteen Ninety Nine sports movie Oliver Stone directed it. It was. A fantastic cast overall based on a novel Nineteen eighty-four novel. Written by NFL Defensive End Pat to May the titles derived from a line in the book, also used in the film Colfax the line. When they say the title of a movie in the movie I'm telling you these drug dealers represent. Tuck player price a are. Sites. He's. Yet on any given Sunday. Either? GonNa win, or you're going to lose. What I was little, I used to love that. Yeah, no, that's. Name the movie. You're like what the hell. Doesn't make. This isn't make any sense. They didn't say the name in the movie. Like in Nicholas Cage Sean Connery movie. Did they ever say the rock? I don't think so. I don't know. Maybe may face off. They did say face off to. Nicholas Cage said rip his face off So that's exactly yeah, and that's what I knew okay I know what this movies about now. I'm stunned to get into it. They. Do say it a few times. They do I. Try to find more examples of it, but. It's Kinda funny. I think it's always kind of funny almost kind of Corny. Yeah like I love the movie gangs of New York. It'd be funny if it's like. Hey, look at all. These gangs of New York right around here. My right. Titanic. They said they say that quite a bit. I think they've probably said that a few times few times. Yeah, I think so. They never said titanic. Sometimes they never actually say it this giant ship. You might call, and then they get interrupted and move on something else. With the dynamite cast Colfax AL, Pacino Cameron Diaz Dennis Quaid. Jamie. Fox James, Woods. Ll Cool J. and Margaret is in this. I love Ann Margaret. So, great actress back in the day. Did you ever see the grumpy old men series? The grumpy old man that grumpier old men longtime ago. She's the love interest in the first one that they're fighting over okay well. That was how you and I know people that are older like you. She's an average. Margaret was in everything but a so much fun to watch she kinda was. She was she was the What's the owner? She was the mother right. She was the wife. Of the former. She's got drink drinking a little bit right. Great cast I mean the players in it to Aaron Eckhart was in there, too. I think right before he started to get more famous, you had. Jim Brown was in there so NFL. Players yet Jim Brown Lawrence. Taylor of course had a big role in this. Terrell Owens was was a player in IT I. Don't know if he had any lines, but he was in Emmett Smith was in it Barry. Switzer was in a head coach. Pat Toomey was in it more and moon Johnny United's Ricky watters. Dick Butkus Wa title I mean a lot of great players that were in this movie and I mean to me this kind of ground breaking the cast speaks for itself. But I'm not a big cliche movie guy. And so there's you know rudy hooligans. You guys give me crapper this town, not a big Rudy Guy. Sorry. Not And then there's some good ones I do like that are Cliche, but this was supposed to kind of be not so Rah Rah and the good guy always wins. and. Give you a more realistic side to the NFL. So basically the gist of this movie. Is. You have in Colefax. Your one of your favorite scenes in this movie. Around the around Tony Al Pacino Played Tony. Just. See why you're confused. Why would they name Al Pacino Tony In any other movie I don't know I couldn't get over that me, too. I'm like okay. I'll Pitino scarface. Don't ever name him Tony in anything else nothing else. It's like one of the most iconic films of all time waiting from a machine, gun or something. You can't do that. You know it's. It's like it's like Bruce. If you're going to name Bruce Wilson a movie, you can't give them the name mclain. You know you just can't any other movie die hard. You just can't do it and to know, but they did it, so I could see why you were confused for Awhile. So Al. Pacino Plays Tony, D'Amato. He's the head coach. He's an older coach there there. The Miami sharks they used to be a great team. They're struggling to make the two thousand and one associated football franchises of America playoffs. Pantheon cap the A. F. F. A. Sounds. So they're struggling and Cameron. Diaz, Christina Peg Naci. I think she's the owner's daughter. She takes over the team though because her father passed away. Yeah, so she's running the team and she's kind of like out with the old in with a new which you see it in the NFL, want the new head coach or I want a new head coach. What my offensive coordinator in who played by! Aaron Eckhart. WHO's Nick Crozier so? She wants him to be the next head coach. Eventually they want Willie beamon eventually to be the next quarterback Dennis Quaid the older quarterback. He's kind of struggling to hang on. He's getting hurt so in of course Al Pacino. Character's fighting this the whole time. So this is the way we do things. This is my quarterback. This is the style I don't want owners coming in and and see that's kind of the overarching theme here. It's kind of like the every story of NFL team pretty much. Eventually the coaches done eventually, the players done and we're going to move on. So, it starts off. Starting quarterback goes down and then the second string quarterback goes down, and then enter Jamie Foxx as Willie Beamon Willie, steam and Beeman was a sound like that was his nickname. Always forget? So Willy comes in way different style play. He's a running quarterback. He's exciting, cocky way different than Dennis Quaid. WHO's kind of a pocket passer and. Good for the love, the team and everybody's great and hard. Work will get you there, so willy being comes in. They lose that game, but he. He shows a lot of a lot of excitement. The fans are into. Right and I for me. I'M GONNA. Tell you off the bat here. I was not in love with this movie I. Don't think at any point For me part one of the biggest flaws is the fact that he was a third string quarterback that just comes on and CNN. Just just destroys the game and he's like a celebrity overnight right in if we saw that nowadays. Third String quarterback could realistically come in and make some noise, but would they be like all over ads and taking? We gotta give that a season herself. I I mean case keenum for example. He was the third string quarterback. Good point everybody gets her, but your point is. He just takes over and he's in the limelight. He's the greatest quarterback. And he's got all these record deals. He gets all these. Commercials got wasn't happening for case. Keenum I mean. Maybe, case, keenum's not that marketable. I don't know, but that's kind of like a case. Keenum type story. was you know he's back? He's backup to the backup and everybody gets hurt and he gets a chance and then but they they do pretty well, and he moves on, but. So we have that kind of going on Willie Biman's character Jamie. Foxx very cocky. Basically they do. Go on to win streak at some point. which puts more pressure on? Al Pacino's. Still ready anytime. Dennis Quaid's ready he anytime. He's like your your your quarterback. I don't care how many games we went in a row with this guy. You're our quarterback, Willie? Biman's cocky. He's he basically takes all the credit for the win. Streak and Lawrence Taylor my favorite scene, though because it sticks out and we'll get to another with Lt. Lawrence Taylor Bruce Playing version of himself. Basically saw takes a chainsaw had a big party. Word spreads around the party that That will be was talking trash about his defense. Defense doesn't matter I. Mean so an L. O. Cool Jays the one, even though he's the running back, he goes and tells Lt Hey. He's basically saying you guys don't matter and says. Yeah he? Takes a chainsaw. Vehicle Right now says see you need half of this your car going right? It's I. Don't remember. The quote sounds like you got to have the whole thing and a team is. Even though it was really cool bizarre, it was still cliche because it's like guy takes a team to complete the vehicle, so lt has this. This very sobering scene in the Sauna, whereas sitting there where you could just you can see the pain on his face. It's like real life. Because these football players may have that play these high levels. And hit people the way they do. They're hurting their. These guys are still in pain today, but you could see it on his face and this scene here. If. Julian Rice. So how'd you never heard? Gives touch. Id Hidden? What else? Some does no more one. MORE PLUMS! People. When the main. Thank, you should be part of all. Not just us. It's been the clint. That's members of. Great. Learned will in here. You don't. Talk. Powerful scene there and again we'll be miscarry are Jamie. Fox's character's going through this. He's a young gun. He's cocky is ready to go, but he takes a lot of talking to to get down and be down to earth and more of a team player. So in being not cliche kind of was. Right I mean I did appreciate like all kinds of the. Edginess to the game, they showed not necessarily all the parting like that got a bit old. One is like other scene was. Either a dramatized version of a game and then went to like. NFL Party in the trump has game. I didn't like how that was all cut, but I did like. Certain like back in the locker room scenes like after a game. Go through foul players around like they're all kind of screaming in pain like it's almost like a hospital after a war or something is what? I've thought you I thought they did a good job of that and I. Speak Something without knowing this, but did. I don't know if anybody ever actually lost an eyeball and NFL. That happen I don't know a big grew. So that was that was weird. Yeah, I mean there's just an eyeball out there I'm like what happened were. Was it a fumble? I think it's somebody maybe in their ripped I i. don't I honestly turned away for two seconds, and then I just thought eyeballing. On the field, just kinda showed how bad they were getting beaten up There was like a lot of guy like lt was really good in this movie like. Jimmy Fox was I don't think Jamie. Fox said, even hit the big time rolls yet that he wanted to war stuff, but he was a here's pretty good. It it is weird. Sometimes you don't see Al. Pacino. You're just not used to being in sports movies, so it is a different here and him. Like the speech he does at the end. You know when. Willie Biman's not starting. They ended up benching him and he's like accepting that he's. He's growing up and he's like no I'm going to support. I'm going to support my starting quarterback. I'M GONNA support my coach, and so he's sitting. There Pacino gives a speech like all the great. He's doing. He's and he starts naming off all these great I cannot picture Andy Reid halftime of Super Bowl with the chiefs, saying. Hey, you remember all these great. Send it starts to me. It was almost like an infomercial for the NFL at that point. You know talking about all these great players, so that was. That right? There took me out of it. You know because I was like suddenly. We're in this raw. Esp. They're showing these clips of different players and stuff and I. When I was twelve and watch this. Best, sports movie ever seen. And I could see that as like when this came out is probably just a huge. Oh, it was. It was a big transformation, yeah! What's possible with the sports movie? You see kind of a negative side of some of these players because again when I'm twelve all I see. This is before social media, and all this all I see is a great player that I love and I just assume awesome dude. The right things drinks. His milk goes home to his family goes to bed at night. Then this was painting a different picture, and it was very interesting I absolutely just the fact that they're. Obviously people to like just the pain. I, go through as. It's kind of interesting that to me was probably the most sent again. It's not that we didn't know. They went through pain, but they really paint that picture exac Lt just looks miserable in the movie and He. You hear him talk now. He he her was hurt. He also caused a lot. Of, pain with like when look at Joe is meant But? He just looked like he was in pain. So I mean you had a real football player having a cow, cool J's obviously not a football player. He's an actor. Rapper Jamie Foxx an actor Lt. you could see it in his eyes, and this was in one, thousand, nine, hundred, ninety eight. You know now when he talks I mean the guys played such a high level. So the ending Colefax spoiler alert if you haven't seen at turn away. Click plug your ears. Do the dumb and dumber thing twenty years to watch it twenty longtime. The ending, so they have the press conference. They're moving on from. Pacino Tony Tomato he announces that he's going to be joining the an expansion team in New Mexico as the head coach and the g. m., so he's not going to have anybody overlooking him anymore, and then right there. He also announces that he signed Free Agent Willie Beamon. To go with them again. Another spoiler Willie beamon comes back in the second half plates out. They lose anyway, but he plays great. He proves that he can play in this league and be humble about it. That that part at twelve didn't bother me as much as it bothers me at thirty three, because it's like that doesn't happen. Because Cameron Diaz. Look shocked. There's no way that's happening. Like none of that's happening. He may announce his where he's going in that press conference any announces that he's taking their future. Their future quarterback that he signed I mean it was. It was like Oh, man he's got fired. That's always taking taking the franchise, but that doesn't happen. No to unrealistic on that one for me, I agree and one point candy has had a line where she's like talking about you know humbly retiring some some of her players kind of towards the beginning of the movie. and. I. Don't know she was talking about well. We could even give them a job within the organization which. She should've kept going said we should find them a job somewhere else. Yeah, but I don't know. I it rubbed me the wrong way for some reason it just. It's I don't think it really happens like that that often. There are players that they definitely you know they like the guy so much, but they see that he's not worth playing anymore and they're like. Hey, we'll try because it is a lot of times it is NFL is based off the old, the good old boy system. Sometimes, that's why you see. Coaches Churn out assistant coaches assistant coach because they're from the coaching tree. Does that work with player, sometimes I mean they might have a heads up. They get a head start to be in an assistant or some kind of job in the organization. You see it I. Don't know if it's out of pity, though yeah, exactly and I'm just not saying. Yeah, like just the way. She said it just rubbed me the wrong way. It does happen I. Don't doubt that Yes. It just seemed like it was an improper line I. Don't know think at twelve I give this a first rounder, okay. I don't go there now. It's not a it's not a bad movie. Like I watch and I'm not like this is just awful. They're parts. Though that just weren't they were as. Groundbreaking as I thought again. That's that's the case with a lot of these movies that we're going back and watching. So colfax. PROBABLY GONNA GO AROUND A. Approach? Fourth Rounder on this one. Yeah, right there with you meant. It just didn't do do form is way too long again. Watching these dramatize scenes of football games even though they were pretty, you know kind of really brought that experience in like wow feels like we're watching a game at a stadium. What it's like to be on the field. That was well done, but like a fifteen minute scene of a dramatize football game I. don't WanNa, watch it. I'll just go watch football game I yeah I. I think the scene. He invites Willie over for dinner. When coach invites him over, that's a really long seen Jambalaya. Yeah, that's a really long. What isn't it? I think so. I remember that one just felt like it went way too long. So forth rounder fourth-rounder. There's a review. The. That's it. Their Review Right. What do you guys think? Text the first event in sex line three, one nine six forty two minutes after the hour. Let's get the latest on the local sports flash. Thirteen ten KFI preps radio is northern Colorado's home for the past highschool coverage. 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The Best Player in the 2019 NFL Draft is...

The GM Shuffle

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The Best Player in the 2019 NFL Draft is...

"Welcome to the G M shuffle. And I am so excited today to welcome in our new co host the partner in crime ad so happy to have you. I we did a little mach one that I haven't been able to get out of my head. I've been thinking of movies ever since we've done it, Mike. This is the best kept secret going sports media. The fact that you, and I had this planned weeks ago, we finally able to come together and make GM shuffle reality, as, you know, a huge movie guy. We're gonna be talking movies a lot by the biggest reason that we're together is this everyone's talking about game of thrones debut. You take your take your dragons get outta here. Sopranos is the greatest show of all time spreaker, sopranos references more people at eighty what's coming out the realities. Let's go I can't even like I try to get into the game of thrones. I did I tried there's nudity appealing, right? So I want you know, like, my wife will let me watch it with her. So that's great. Right. So that's that's a plus, hyper violence nudity, dungeons and dragons Gordy women. I just can't get it. Like just having a. Hard time with the dragons kind of throw me off, you know. But I understand how people get it. I do don't question. I'm not a hater people. Love it. I'm gonna hate relations. All good. It's the most critically acclaimed EMMY award drama of all time, but it's incredibly complicated to make notes the whole time. And I'm like, it's just not forever. I'd rather watch killing eve with Jodie cormer, Sandra. Okay. Great. Awesome. Well, written, you know, pretty good to me. I'm okay on that. I just have a hard time getting there. You know, billions is still good. Although I'd be close. You know, I think it's a c plus because I think it's to clicheish I think they're trying to integrate too much pop culture. Hopefully, people don't feel that way. But I sure would this show pop culture to the gate door you'll draft stuff. Later also wanna talk about tiger. When in the master's. We'll do that later on though. That's why we watch sports. Yeah. That's why we watch ports because with tiger did not people. So, you know, Tigers pass look, there's a fact here that you know, there is forgiveness. I mean, yes, I tell my father time every time he goes to church, and he gets mad at some. You know, you go there for forgiveness. Like can't we bring that back out? Right. Can't grow humid seven back out when you leave there. Right. So anyway, I marvel that and I really did. And I gotta be honest. I wanna know from you. If you've been Augusta. I have I covered at two thousand eight Trevor Immelman one cheese sandwiches out of my head two bucks for Chiesa tells me salads, wonderful buck fifty I wanna know where Francesco was eating dinner. That's what I wanna know. 'cause what self-serving dago is going down. There me. I am a fool one. I'm completely one. So I could say that what is worse heating there. I wanna know. I was gonna say the chicken pond, there's doubt your gate injures par. I want. I just kept wondering where she going for dinner tonight. Yeah, you're not getting off to tie cuisine. He and his caddy were talking talion. I'm thinking where are they tonight because he's got to come with them. You know, where it's been a good Henry hills aortic manicotti egg noodles and catch what it's like. He lost that attributed the Tigers great comeback because there was no place for the eatings run out of steam. That's why he was so short on twelve. Yeah. Well, when it comes to food for thought, let's dive into the NFL draft because everyone's talking about collar Maria what could happen cardinals at number one. They were three and thirteen season ago. Josh Rosen is the incumbent pretty young to be an incumbent by those technically the term when your other returning quarterback. I love cliff kings break is the fact he's so much fun in college. I worked five years ESPN covering college football you with cliff Kingsbury teams ton of offense zero defense. So I don't know how much that's gonna transit the NFL, but I know his reputation for high octane offenses, and I'm very curious. If you think it's going to happen. Cuyler Marie going want Zona with cliff everybody that I talked to in the league thinks it's happening. Now, they have not made any attempt to really trade Rosen. And I frankly, the more I think about this as they should just hold onto Rosen. Even if they want to take Mary why so Rosena discount why not wait until somebody gets hurt this summer and say, hey, you wanna starting quarterback? Here's Josh Rosen. We'll give them to four. You know? I mean, look if the dollar exactly Sam Bradford went for a one late. I mean, you know, and who would have thought that really nine oh Bradford had some really good seasons. But everybody tells me that that's the case. What's moving forward with the cardinals. Whereas for me, it's funny. Bella check had that quote the other day about how college passing offenses don't relate to the NFL. And it's so true. And so we all look at this game the fans look at this game and see four receivers and see three receivers all it's a passing offense. No, it's really not. It's a little bit like the receiver Metcalf who everybody was Google over during the draft prep right during the combat because he ran this incredible galley runs two routes like in the NFL. You've gotta run more than two routes. Even though you're blazing speed. You have to run those routes shoulder pads and five pads and all that stuff on you. And so when you watch Mary people say, you know, he's dropback passer. I say, okay. Yeah. He's dropback passer. But he sits shotgun and that pass rushes way different than what he's going to see come Sunday to that. Point you made a great point Peter King Lasik GM shuffle. Which is that eighty nine percent of the time. He's dropping back. Okay, fine. But the difference between the gaps between the defensive line is completely different college and NFL it's a spread formation. All right. So you can't say all these five and a half. He did it a college the NFL. No, I'm listen. I love the guy if he's going to be success power tomb, but I'm incredibly skeptical. The fact he's five ten is going to be a star. And I think this whole draft is incredibly down. I think if I had draft picks in the Strath I will go to ways I would either try to get up and get a bona fide legitimate player in the first twenty picks. Whatever I was or all those picks from rounds. Four on back. I would be selling for next year spics. All right. So let's see if the cartilage you believe you're and that they will take column or if they do not Niners to jets at three raiders of four. We'll get to raiders in a second. But jets you think they may be trying to move down to get Joe Williams who's the offense of I think the jets, look, look, let's face it. They everybody's talking defensive linemen, and certainly they need that. But what they need more than anything protector for the left side. And I. That's what they wanna do. And they don't wanna overspend at the first pick to get it. They want to recoup some of the investment that they made in darnold and still get the left tackle that they want. So they're shopping that pick. I think they'll trade that pick out of there. Now, somebody wants to come up and get it. The problem with distract is the best player in the draft. Jeffrey Simmons has got a bunch of stuff going on with them. He's got the video which is indicting enough. Okay, and challenging for any team to draft. And then he's got the knee injury coming off the so you've got those two factors playing for you. And then Josh sweat the other best pass rusher in the draft is not on a lot of people's boards because of the heart murmur. So he there you go. So now where you who's coming up to get somebody is somebody jumping ahead of of the raiders to get Quinton Williams who I think is one of the best players in the draft. Let me just be on record. I say this. I think Simmons the defensive tackle for Mississippi State is the best player in the draft. Now, that's not counting character and everything else that goes along with less discuss that further he had malicious mischief and simple salt back in two thousand sixteen. Now the factory. At the time, the investigate this. You know, what whatever happened happened giving him a fresh start atmosphere state first team all SEC second team. All American never any issues off the field. One hundred sixty three tackles thirty games in three seasons was SEC academic. Honorable now, the downsides disappeared against Alabama little to rely on the bull rush to your point. If you believe in talented, upside. Okay. Is there a character issue? Yes. But it was a few years ago. If you're willing to say, he had a mistake he owned up to it. And he's been great since then that I'm with you that that top ten pair. And you just gotta look past injury and say the clean that's going to heal. We're in a world now where ACL's comeback quickly. And you can I think this guy's really good player. He can take over game. He's one of the few players in the Strath that you sit there and say that guy's got chance. Go the proble this draft is not loaded with Pro Bowl players. This draft is loaded with good player. So whatever you might pick at ten you could pick it forty conceivably get the same player. What I think people really ballistic that. Wow. There's that much. Yeah. Here. Here's where we never talk about. Out. We'd never discussed this at all on. There is there's two boards that you look at on draft the vertical board, which is the players at the position and the horizontal bore which is how it relates to everybody else. So for example, if you like a left tackle, let's say you like Williams and you great at him. A first round grade of seven grade, let's say and you like a defensive lineman at seven oh grade. Well, you have to separate that. That's the horizontal board in the horizontal board doesn't separate just because we need a tackle. We don't need a guard. It doesn't separate that way. It separates by who could be the better player. Because even though they both carry the same grade somebody's the better player, and that's a moral question. When it comes up, do you when you're Michael Barr and their draft you go. Hey, guys. This guy's way too. Big a towel. I know we're strong defensive and we're gonna take this or do you draft by neat. Well, because most of the time we have this thing where where teams are in such situational values base where they say we gotta win next year. We gotta do tap. A bay. You know, you know, if you're Jason light you gotta win next year. Because even though Bruce Arians just came in it, Bruce does win your they're gonna blame you you're gone. So he's gonna forget about what holes are in his positions. And he's not even concerning himself with the horizontal board. He's only looking verticals the is give me the vertical board. Where is the good general managers in the Lee have to look at the horizontal board? And that's what the last month of the season of the draft preparations all about what player fits and how do I do? I really and we've done this numerous times in careers. I mean, you know, you're sitting there in the draft. You take David Johnson. You take a strong safety. What do you do? You know, even though you have the same great on them. They're not the same player, you know. And then after it over they come out and say, well, how did you have great? Well, we liked them both equally. But we took the player we need a team that I'm sure ignores the horizontal board is the raiders they've seen Mike just go. Hey, sexy talents Vegas showgirl. We love beach. Blondes? Let's go. I love Gruden. You know, Peter you cities like the fat guy that grocery store just a little bit. Every. Everything he has it. He gets tired of easily. Well, you know, it's Parcells used to say all the time. Don't get distracted by the girl with big boobs. Okay. Don't get the straight. He would always tell them there. You know, you're you're looking at the boobs kit. That's what he would say all the time. You're looking at the boob skit like, okay? Yeah. And that's what Gruden grew another receiver. Take want. Ryan grant short. Long blonde blowing air like never do. I ever sit down and say, how am I going to give reps to all these players? Like, what am I going to do? And I love the fact that he put on may I well it's up to may do good. He's going to Hawaii for the week. How'd you feel to be may Akron? I you are that Jim in name. But there's no question whenever grooms what's called a puppet. Maybe that's arse whatever Gruden saying you're doing correct. Oh, and Mike spin on the road almost every single day. I mean, he's working on the pro days when really he's thinking of himself as a scout. Like, you shouldn't be on the produce. You should be back in the office going over the horizontal board. Breaking the you gotta sit there and constantly go on going approach as great, okay? You interview on NFL network and everybody sees you there and every these working hard, but the time from the gets from you ever been to come South Carolina. I have isn't a whole lot. They know a time food there either. Rock which is I had a hard time there to have any tournament, South Carolina. Mmediately anyway. So like it takes your day to get there today to get the hell out and if you're in oak, so you're don't tell me you're looking on your ipad. I'm in my hotel room. No, that's not the same thing. And so you constantly have to break up the horizontal board. And if you're not in your office doing it becomes a problem. I think what Mike's done, and I've said this to numerous people, I would rather have twelve hours of root canal than in the draft grew serious, twelve hours. Have you had a root canal? I've had one horrific which well ours. I would rather have twelve hours of that up for that. Because the fact what exactly about it would be so Elliott, he's listen to you because he wouldn't listen as soon as somebody would big boobs come by. Let's get especially if it's a receiver or I gotta ask series. Talent. What people don't understand is? I'm not just saying this because Amanda, John like I've lived with John. Okay. So when John was in Green Bay, Wisconsin riding his bicycle the work. Okay. That his bicycle crashed into a snowbank that was so big that it broke up. He only had one car at the time. And my friend had literally pick them up at four o'clock in the morning because he only had one car in the family. So when John left Green Bay to come the Philadelphia. Yeah, I was in Philly for the one year, and he would constantly walk around the building say, you know, we got no talent. But she's expect. Now, we had Ricky Watters, Charlie garner Irving. Fryar? We had Jason done. We had a really good tight end. But was horrible. And so he complained the whole time we had no town, right? We weren't that talented and the offense align, but we have some skill. Chris Jones who went on to go to have a really good season one year. So then okay, he leaves and he goes out to Oakland. I get to Oakley and hear about is how good the players weren't feeling. We got. I can't believe to make me play with this Cup. I got Dave is fame owner and he's making me play with this cut in Philly. I mean, I had rookie waters. I had Charlie garner had Arbi is he doing that for motivation with poor mouth all the time. I guys. Heats convincing himself that if it's not for him. They'll never get a first down. It's an egotistical way. It's the only way he can work. Right. It's the only way he can work. It's like I gotta get up at four in the morning because I got no players. I gotta do you know, I got to try to get a first down. But then what he's in Oakland. He's got no players either. He's got rich Gannon the MVP the league, you know. And so that's where I and I've said this last podcast when he went to Tampa. You know, I told the guys Tampa I said, look if the need an expert on grew. I'm the guy like as so since you the expert advice, Jon Gruden, hey, man. I think you're horribly overrated you one that several because I was Tony Dungy guys. Well, what is response, man? And you know, what you're talk Brad Johnson's numbers, you know. But look, I think I okay, we give you this admittedly being a room. Crude would be tough in the twelve hours better. Is he a gifted offense coach still that remains to be seen it when I last saw him. I thought he was really good. I think the problem John. Has his change. I think John has a lot of great ideas. I think they're hard implement. I think John still wants to come back and do John's very comfortable. Do I to spider banana, you know, give me give me love that on ESPN got it. We got cool form it, you know. It calls it out. But you know, look, I think that remains to be seen. And I think defensively they're going to have to prove that where they are defensively. Can they come through two? So I still think they'd really have. I mean, this whole thing with mayo. And and Derek Carr omitting that they're going to draft a quarterback. So may only MAC I actually said Derek cars are quarterback. We like him. If there's quarterback Roosevelt. We're gonna take their cars on consignment. He's off assignment. I mean seriously. He's on consignment. Listen, if you're make say, listen cars are guy come hell or high water, and you can lie in drives me, that's fine. Or you say, you know, what he's gonna prove a lot to us. And that they'll get the message ham on the block don't say he's our guy, but we're going to look at other because it goes back to the guy who is actually working for believe that whenever you talk to the media Audi's, you're talking to three people. And so he's violated that rule right there if he would've came into the room after that, and I would have just absolutely ridicul because he's not sending the right message to the players. He's not sending the right message to the coaches or the org. And he's not sending the message to the fans because the fast, no, raiders drafted force. So if column IRS available take them, you believe as you heard the cardinals will take Maria one this brings the conversation of smallish quarterbacks. And Russell Wilson who I think is a fascinating person. Yeah. I really do because people either love mcgaughey gutsy moxie when the Super Bowl or guys say kinda overrated, these smallish guys the benefit of a great defense. Good infrastructure. Good coach excetera where are you? I often evaluator Wilson where does that let Seattle feels about him with the fact he's a very expensive quarterback Russell on a rookie contract. Really attractive? Russell at thirty million. You know, good luck. Because if you sit back and fans don't do this. But if you sit back and say timeout, let's take every third and seven where he has to be in the pocket and has to make an unbelievably accurate throw where he can see people not happy ain't happening. He's great. When he gets the save caliber loose place. What is actually better with with a lousy offense of line? That's exactly right. That's why we're on the same page. I kept Colorado. These stunning if he's going to bat off his who may be pretty good. It'd be good office. I don't like it it with two minutes to play everyone's playing the tackles. I don't like. No. So I think that's Seattle's feeling is look I think this whole Frank Clark thing the defensive lineman who they're thinking about trade and there's been rumors. Everybody's talking about it's buzzing the league talked team this morning, and they think it's real they don't know what team is could it be Kansas City, which for me Kansas City takes on Frank Clark. And that problems because frankly, doesn't come with a bow and an a lily on his shoulder saying, oh, hey, everything's nice. You know, Frank car comes with some baggage. Now, I will say, you know, whether they can handle or not I'm not saying Frank Clark's bag guy. Just he comes with some things to put in a room where you have the tyreek hill thing that still going on. I wonder if you can do that. Speaking of baggage find this fascinating Bosa is supposed to be an absolute stud yet rather than this image of a young left-leaning Corp is the other way, he loves Trump. He's very anti establishment. And the fact that he said I'm going to stop talking to stop tweeting because San Francisco's interested in me. And he's been a guy who's been. Critical. Colin Kaepernick, I said, this is amazing. This is a guy who's purely on the right wing here. And he said, I can't insult people. San francisco. I might go there. You're the GM might you. Calm and go. Hey, man. I am a damn at your politics are because shutdown or I don't care politics. And keep speaking your politics because you know, what you're great players. Do what you want? Well, there's a twofold answer that. Yeah. I don't care which politics are. But you are public figure and you need to temper doubt. Like, you don't need to tell everybody which politics are you can keep them yourself. Now, if you want to go on the campaign trail, and you want to start running for office that your business, you know, you can do that you can't wear maga- hat back. Exactly. Like, look, this is not NPR over here. We're not doing a show. Okay. So temperate down and just worry about football. And then everything else come into play. I think that's the smart play like these kids. They all needed vice council, would it actually impact you with a city like San Francisco, which is so liberal which had capper Nick with their sort of backless Bill has this guy is on this side. And Chris Capri I don't think so I gotta give. I think it'll take San Francisco all about thirty seconds to turn the card, and I think that Commissioner won't be back in his seat after returns the before he's gotta get his ass back up and go back to the podium of seventeen commercials. You know, seventeen commercials. We'll look at mel's mock forty seven times of four point oh four we've got mel's mock. And then pour Todd he doesn't get to come in and get nearly enough. He doesn't get to come in Friday. He's thrown in the bull that guy at the Mets game. He keeps throwing he never gets in the game. I texted my buddy train guys. How's the practical? And he goes, my eyes are bleeding. We're pretty good right now. It's unbelieva you're the same way the preppy do on every single all these guys. Well, but I think what would really lax on these shows is the advancement of it. Like don't tell me like this is one of Bill Walsh's pet peeves. Don't tell me the guy's first round. Tell me what the guy's going to do for the team like Bosa comes in. And he allows them to have an edge presence op aside Defoe, if that's who San Francisco drafts, you know, if they draft Jona Williams in the jets Kelvin Beecham's, not your left tackle any longer which is good for Sam darnold, and now we have a left tackle. And here's why we're going to do this in here, the pieces that come around it. All right. That's the draft. And we're gonna talk law draft next to of course, Jim shuffle Cup. Other topics on Mike Vikings out of theon agreeing to a four year sixty four million dollar extension. What pieces are you looking at the rest of your roster? Sit back things he's a top five wide receiver. I got paid like well, I mean he was in. Coming to camp. I mean, there was talk bright around the free agency star that they would move the because they knew the couldn't get him to come into cap and whoever took him it's gonna throw his contract. I mean, this was at like on ASO you the pay me or I'm leaving. This was hey, fellas. Look at my production. I'm underpaid. This is the problem as an executive when you contract too early. You know, I've worked for some guys at all we got this guy for so cheap. We got them for so cheap. Really don't work for. I think the patriots have redone Patrick Chung's contract seventeen thousand times they just keep redoing it, though, safeties you I mean, he keeps redoing and because it's unfair. Because when you do a contract to wurley it really looks good for the team in the short term, but it affects your locker room. And so you think you win, but you create a tension locker room, and this is what happened with the theme. Yeah. That was smart for them to do an early deal. No doubt. It's even smarter for them to redo the deal because he's played the deal. He's out played the deal, and they need room they kneecap room badly. I could see them trading. Kyle Rudolph during the draft if they got the. Right deal because they're going to have to create some Capra they're going to draft an offensive lineman to help their line or defensive linemen to help their defensive line. And they need the cap room so feeling and I haven't seen the numbers yet. But I'm sure it lowered his cap number and gave them some flexibility. Minnesota's an interesting the moment ever last couple of years going. Hey, great defense. Cousins isn't great. He's a top ten quarterback feelings. Unbelievable. They should be right there. They seem to be. Well, what is it exactly they're lacking? Because I'm not fully sold on that. I think they lose. Tony's Borana really hurt them last year. So I mean that really affected offense of wine, and I think that they never were able to overcome that and that affected their running game. And I think they have a lot of moving parts. And I think the one thing we're Zimmer feels like his team wasn't as good last year was defensive front Everson. Griffen. Who they've tried to trade wasn't the same player had some personal issues off the field. Obviously he went away. Danielle hunters are really good player. But they haven't Sheldon Richardson. I mean, I know Cleveland paid them. I don't know what tape Cleveland was watching the pay Sheldon Richardson last seriously. I mean, you talk about. A guy who's really just living off the rep. But it's he's a navy. Yes. The player if you watched them on tape. I mean, it's like it's like journal McCoy they're trying to trade journal McCoy. No, they're not trying to trail mcwethy touch thirteen million dollars. I don't wanna pay them. Right. They know they can't trade journal mcquaid like they would do a deal if you take McCoy. We'll give you six if they're just trying to take a bad situation and make it less bad is what they're doing. It's the same thing with Sheldon like Sheldon didn't play anywhere near the level to warrant a good contract that he got it. So that hurt them last year, they paid Richardson eight or nine million ten million on a one year deal, and he did nothing for them. And so they're defensive front look that front. There is really all about the defense. The defense sets the front, and I think that Mike realize they didn't play very well. And that's part of the problem too dealers choice. You wanna talk tiger. And on that note. You wanna talk about the Packers and Iraj of what's going on. Let's talk tiger. We'll start with the Packers. Okay. Say here's my question for you. Yeah. I read are contain books. Fabulous people love heroes. People love diminish. Cheers damage your second acts comeback stories. I don't know. I don't know big off guy. But I love tire that's ninety percent of this country. I charismatic I think he's dedicated he wills himself to win. I recognize the fact that domineering father, probably drove him way, too hard lot of pain, etc. And I get the fact he had his scandals personal issues. I don't judge that physically. His body was deteriorated back, injures, etc. I had a DUI forget that video. How awful that was you this near again, here's my question to I've happy for him. I think it's a wonderful moment. The best Bydia was his son Haagen his son ever got to see all victories his daughters. Well, can you explain to me Mike Lombardi on my Twitter feed? The Amena women are resignedly in favor of this guy because I get the guy's going. Hey, whatever man and his wife, he had some issues. What are you gonna do? Hey, guys, being guys it's right or wrong. Yeah. Now, but he got caught he changed his life. He's a great Gulf. Always the watch play the women on my fear. I love tire. He's the best. I paid sixteen bucks on a plate just watch tiger. So if your husband this do hanging to second how how how does he get the past? I'm fine with it. I just don't get it. I think if I try to get into the mind. Of women. I gonna be completely, you know, talking about a movie that one of my favorite movies is with Jack Nicholson when he's the writer cat. It's good as it gets. And he's standing there at the elevator. And the girl comes up to them and says, oh my God. I love you so much. How do you write women? So well, and he says I have a man takeaway reason accountability there's my answer. There's my answer to you. That's really rational. I don't get it. This guy was that's my answer. I mean, Jack gave the right answer so remove that equation of why females love tiger. As you said as a fan of sports watching that. I mean, how could you not the guy I kicked to the ground as worse as anybody in our lifetime physically emotionally personally? And you know, look, I I was impressed by the people that stayed with them. I mean that guy that hugged them one of the guys that hug them at been with them a long time. I think what was what's remarkable is is that he was dealing in the unknown of whether he was ever going to get back at he was working as hard as ever to get back that plays with your mind. Like, why am I doing this, right? Like, I'm tired. I got a g for you know, I got everything I need, right. Got a property and Jupiter that that extends to the world. I taught to story and Adam like playing video games until forty. What do you like a navy seal at one point? I mean, it's really remarkable. My I got addicted. I don't play golf because when you work for Davis. There's two things you can't do is you can't play golf and you can't smoke a pipe. Those those are completely against it. Give you the pipes stir. What's the specific Deminex pipe smokers too, laid back. It's I think they never asked more, but I just know pipe smoking. He throws pretentious like masterpiece theatre or something like that. So I'd never played. But I got addicted to Tiger Woods golf when my kids were little. And so I'm playing to. I'm literally I needed to go to rehab 'cause I would come home at ten o'clock at night, and I would get to the play station, and I would play pebble and shoot fifty eight fifty nine and I was like playing all over. And I was like there's no way I was completely dick. So one year the pebbles going on Pebble Beach. I would go down at Pebble Beach. All the time because I worked at CBS, and I knew all the Pebble Beach P, I knew all the CBS Goff people, Lance barrows. And of course, the great James Nance. So I would go down there and my wife million. I we walk around the course and hang out, and there's a great lodge called Benardus, which is ten miles out. Really wonderful. So you it's really a great spot. So I would go out there, and so Bella checks plan and at one year, and of course, I went on a Saturday, which is a complete violation of the raider Geneva Convention rules now allowed to leave your desk on Saturday. Like you have to be at your desk Saturday. I went down there Friday night playing tetris computer. That's exactly he could be here where the fuck are you off on down here playing? So anyway, so I'm walking Sabella check sees me. And the guy who is runs pebble is a huge patriot fan and so Bill, and so Bella check sees me walk. The course come on over here. Like walk with me. So I go over there. And we start walking Bill. You can't hit it over there. And he's like what are you talking about? You can't you gotta go left of the flag here. And so like, okay typical bell check. He takes the next hole. We start talking talking about players said Bill you want. Said Bill you want to be like on the right side of the screen over here. He's what you don't play golf. Like, how do you play? Tiger woods. I know. This course, like the back of my hand. I know it like the back of my head. And it's so unbelievable. Like, I think that whole that the Tiger Woods like he was generational. You really was and those like a friend of mine Alec who's in Orlando. He was posting on a social media, and he had a red shirt on. And he's like I grew up in Orlando. This was my guy. It's interesting. It's our time at great comebacks ever in sports. And I was thinking George Foreman was like homeless living in a bridge. That's that's pretty low. Right. Twenty aero being by ball and baseball. I think about why do we love rocky? Why don't we love? I mean, this was rocked getting his ask. I mean, Harry is you know, he trains eats. The you know, what I mean, this is this was so much tiger. I mean, you know, and I think what I think people don't realize as you get older, you lose that will the concentrate. I think you see it would Mickelson at times. You know, those putt she used to be able to make or the -bility to concentrate for like, I was with Freddie, one time five years ago. And I think he can win another master's like, I don't think I can string seventy two holes together. Good at this that consistencies like the volume. Well, here's tire came from behind to win its first time he's ever done. He's never done that two major. Nope. So he had to not only think of all this adversity the way to the world Almeida. I'm on the precipice of doing something. I gotta catch this French Iskoe Molinari to get a decent meal eaten four days. I'm still wearing tiger read to overcome. This is a big winner Nike. Huge dropped him. Like, we stuck with a man brand loyalty all the way that Nike commercial, get chills. I mean, it's unbelievable. When you when I walked back to the train station for here. And I see the Nike ads on the billboard. They're the best ads ever. I can only imagine what they're gonna do. But you know, and that's a great book. Have you ever read the Phil Knight book, I haven't I heard? It's amazing. It's an amazing book about a man overcame everything. And I think that's what he had done not in terms of his personal, but the business life, and how he developed Tiger Woods were a plus on game of thrones were down on other issue, incest. There's a lot is set in that show this causes sleep this. Well, they're not first cousins cousins Elvis kissing almost have to right. Like, I I was at the point where I start right? Like, I don't know. Who's who have? No, anyways, they give you like a media guide on that show just to recap. Here's who is this guy from the Tyrian Lancaster, Peter clips. He's unbelievable because he's like the Lancers the bad guys. Visit the good Bagai. I can't get it. I can't get lost at the dragons Lord of the rings guy. No, no, one do that either. Yeah. I can't get it. I am not any of the Harry Potter ones. I can't get into those missing out last thought about uncle junior. How cool is this your in the sopranos, which is the greatest show of all time? It was also Johnny Ola too. And he doesn't even look anything. Like what you tell me. What he's Johnny kidding go watch to incredible. It's unbelievable. He's a great singer. And he plays here in New York. All the time his plays a little lounge clubby still sings I just wanna go over there. Like junior stories I wanna do GM Scheffel roadshow you me June. I think we should have him on. This is a lot of fun, man. Thank you. Appreciate all you listening. If anyone has an questions with love to hear from you the GM shuffle at g mail dot com. Is the best Email address? You know, you can get us on all your favorite platforms. I tunes radio dot com. 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Sanders vs. Rice  Teammates | 4

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Sanders vs. Rice Teammates | 4

"It's Saturday. September third nineteen ninety four or at the marina green a grassy stretch of beach along the San Francisco Bay Forty niners owner Eddy debartolo and President Carmen policy are sitting on stage promoting an exhibit called the NFL experience to get fans pumped up for the season that starts in just two days. Niners fans don't really need a ton of gimmicks to get excited. They already root for a good team but everyone involved knows that the niners probably need a little extra extra juice to make it back to the super bowl suddenly policy notices a buzzing in the crowd near the back. There's a man who's waving eh at him policy. squint to get a better look. The man looks oddly familiar designer sunglasses gold jewellery glimmering bring in the sunshine. No way policy thinks it's undeniable. It's Dion Sanders policy. Then nudges debartolo and whispers hate head. That's Dion Sanders. The owner response. No CAN'T BE EH policy continues. I'm telling you it's M it's Dionne. It's now almost been nine nine months since the niners lost to the cowboys for the second straight year in the NFC championship game in the last couple months dean's agent floated the idea to policy that the the forty niners may want to pursue dion in free agency policy thought the agent was joking Diaz been insisting on a big money long term deal L. during his nationwide free agency tour with MC Hammer by his side. The niners under a salary cap crunch can't offer big money or long-term term deals so the forty niners front office ruled dion out. So what's Dion doing here in San Francisco Debartolo a middle aged guy with thick dark hair. hops off stage. And Wades through the crowd towards dion the to shake hands and slowly walk toward the water's edge looking Out on a spectacular view of Alcatraz and the Golden Gate Bridge. Dion tells debartolo. I really really want to play for the forty niners. Aw Nine days later at the niners practice facility in Santa Clara Jerry. Rice is sitting in his head. Coach's office Coach George Siefert is the Messenger for a wild idea he says so what would you think about Dion Sanders as a 49er their silence is jerry slowly processes. A bit of a shocker. His eyes then widen. He might come here. Jerry thanks. Oh my God Jerry Imagines Dion and a forty Niner Jersey. The thought is beyond weird in pictures. His high stepping dancing acting foolish in the end zone. His first instinct is no no no. He doesn't fit the forty forty nine or way the old school rice can't imagine dion fitting in he thinks Dionne just brings too much flash and attention baggage edge. He's GonNa blow up the forty nine or focus in chemistry as team captain and face of the franchise. Jerry has veto power over the move if he really is against it. Like an ancient Roman emperor the star white out could squash this primetime to San Francisco proposal with just a thumbs down or the shakeup shakeup ahead but if Jerry's looking at this rationally the he can't deny the benefits dion could bring. He thinks well on the other. Hand a shutdown shutdown corner who can also energize the home crowd. These are good. Thinks they can help us win and we do need to win the Super Bowl. Our window won't lasts forever but then again all that baggage Diaz clearly more about entertainment than football so jerry rice ace is torn suddenly. He's also having some pretty serious visions memories of the cowboys. Humiliating his forty niners in the playoffs. These pass to winters. He sees cowboy wide receivers. Michael Irvin Alvin Harper. And they're stupid. Starred helmets catching pass after. Pass beating the forty niners Niners cornerbacks now ray system celebrating with their smug owner Jerry Jones laughing in the forty niners faces in Jerry Rice his face and now Jerry's mind is made up all right. He says go for it. But there's a problem lem the forty niners still don't have enough salary cap space. The League puts limits on how much a team can spend on total player salaries each year so three forty nine or players actually agreed to rework their contracts to accommodate dion the front office then constructs a one year dion offer that includes a bonus bonus if the niners make it to the Super Bowl the organization and the players are serious about signing dion and know that winning is prime time primary goal. The only questions now are will he take the deal and more importantly how will he jerry. Rice survive as teammates. Whether you're reaction is excellent or I caramba. This is definitely some exciting news. The Simpsons are now a part of Disney's brand new streaming service Disney plus. That's right the simpsons is the longest running primetime scripted series on television in history. It's one thirty. Four emmys including Outstanding Animated Program in Twenty Twenty Nineteen. Obviously the series has become part of television history and this is the first time the first thirty seasons have been available to stream completely completely ad. Free got thirty seasons really. That's six hundred sixty one episodes of the simpsons ad free. Do you have a favorite favorite episode. You can watch it anywhere anytime. WanNa relive the nineties and go back to homer Palooza. Of course you do. I think the smashing pumpkins around that one. Disney plus has that episode want want to watch the episode. Marge I the monorail yeah. That's there to episode where homer jumps the Springfield. Gorge you betcha Mr Plow. It's all there all the songs everything springfield is. They're all the iconic moments now available Disney plus in the United States. So get excited because you can stream the first thirty seasons of the simpsons and so much more right now when you subscribe on Disney plus I'm Dan Rubenstein. And this is sports. Wars The in the last episode Jerry Rice and Dion Sanders battled fiercely playing for NFC west rivals yet. Despite their enormous individual successes their teams each had some pretty big flaws for Jerry is aging forty niners. Their winning run from the eighties is long in the rear view mirror ear and are now firmly behind the Dallas cowboys in the NFC pecking order and in Atlanta. Dion Falcons have posted just one winning record in five seasons as both players Covet Super Bowl glory for their own reasons for Dionne. It's to win. His first title and further elevate his profile and for Jerry to prove that he belongs on football's mountaintop. They're now partners with a shared mission. So will they be able to coexist and win a ring or will will they clash of egos in this unlikely marriage end in disaster. This is episode four teammates It's September fifteenth at the forty niners. Santa Clara practice facility as dion walks onto the field. All eyes are staring at number. Twenty one forty nine or linebacker. Gary plummer thirty. Four year old veteran and self-described blue-collar throwback throws a skeptical glance direction. plummer thinks dion selfish thinks is sh mannequins will hurt the team. He's not alone but Jerry Rice. Who still worries about that? Exact problem greets dion as the team's leader he says hey. Welcome to the forty niners ray to do some work. Happy to be there dion response. You know it. Let's wintering three three days later. The niners suit up Anaheim stadium in southern California for a week three matchup against the Rams News of Diaz Forty nine or signing sent shockwaves shock waves throughout the league. The niners were never thought to be serious players in the primetime sweepstakes but now on paper there suddenly considered Super Bowl favorites favorites and now on the field. They're starting to look like it as well. It's the fourth quarter and the niners lead twenty seven to ten. After a Jerry Rice touchdown catch etched from Steve Young and playing cornerback on the right side of the field. The always loud dion has deflected two passes and help to quiet the rams top receivers verse on another niners. Dr Rice catches a young pass but gets tackled. The Rams won the receiver who never accepts coming up. Short is furious areas with himself for getting stopped. He heads back to the bench and stands next to dion. Rice is yelling at himself. Can't believe I got stopped there. Deanne response to I am trying to loosen him up. Listen if it had been me on you on that play you definitely would have scored run right over Jerry smiles. He feels better. Her Dion has lightened the mood. The forty niners wind eons debut thirty four to nineteen the following week. Primetime makes his home. Debut at. San Francisco's candlestick park fans can't wait to see neon dion up. Close the niners. Take a seventeen thirteen lead over New Orleans in the third quarter on a rice touchdown catch but in the game's final minute the saints drive into forty forty niner territory. Dion knows chance to show fans and a few remaining skeptical teammates. Exactly why he's worth all the hype as the saints try to Spoil Foil. His debut dion jumps in front of a pass and takes it seventy four yards the other way for a touchdown if there was any lingering doubt about Deonte John's ability. It's fully gone now a few hours later Prime Times game sealing highlight is featured on. ESPN's big recap show NFL. Primetime forty which episode to go and look at it. You know what's coming Chad Bryan. China's new kidney couldn't write a script like this. I five minutes ago. Came on the line dion. His first appearance at candlestick George Siefert said they. Don't write this in Hollywood a few few weeks later the forty niners are at Georgia. Dome Atlanta Dion back as a visitor over seventy one thousand strong as the forty. niners take on the Falcons begins with first place on the line in the NFC west both coming in with records up foreign to Jerry. Rice is a big play player as his Dion Sanders who returned to Atlanta for the first time since signing with the forty niners falcons fans are wearing t shirts that say dion who with the number twenty one crossed crossed out. Wendy owns announced the fans boo angrily. They've taken his departure for greener pastures. Pretty personally the niners lead fourteen. Nothing the second quarter. Its fourth and goal from the Falcon one. They could kick a field goal safe choice here but something feels different San Francisco. They're calling young is gonNA try to throw when he does. What a great play? He got the ball just as he was going down. Jerry Jerry walks back to the sideline as teammates tap is helmet. Dion and Jerry Bear. Hug and Dion smacks Jerry on the but with eleven fifty nine left in the second. Half the Falcons have the ball at the forty nine twenty. Five dion is covering his friend. Falcon Receiver Andre Rising. Well make that former friend reisen feels feels betrayed that dion left for a division rival on a running play reisen blocks dion a little too aggressively. Dion doesn't appreciate it and goes after rising awesome and soon penalty flags litter the field as the to trade punches. We got we got some Dukic going on Grey Rise Dion Sanders given that whole cook. Did you see that. That's a classic. Paul Number Twenty one on the big ten yards all actually be honest lucky then. He's on the phone cookbook. Because usually when that happens you get catch a Guy Duke watching this insanity from the sideline rice shakes his head in frustration. He thinks this is exactly why I was worried about bringing beyond on. He's always calling attention to himself. It's not not about. The team is a wildcard. And he need dependability. Now at least partially because of Deanza antics the Falcons are going to score and get right back into the game the momentum swings to Atlanta and they're inside the niners twenty the tenth drive here own Dion Sanders. It's dancing about the forty yard number on the crowd here. San Francisco Forty niners team is happy. Gone with the whole team together. That should have been a completion. Stand ninety five yards away from the niners win forty two to three three speaking to reporters at his locker after the game. Dion says one thing to say this is my house and I dissed and this is my house. I don't care. Bow Out always people. It's the day after Christmas in Minneapolis. The the niners are here preparing for a Monday night. Game against the Vikings to close out the nineteen ninety four regular season. Dion Jerry in the niners are on a ten game winning streak week. They've clinched homefield advantage throughout the NFC playoffs so technically this game is meaningless. But try telling Jerry Rice that AH knows how fragile a season is how the second you lose focus. That's when things collapse. He remembers how the niners went fourteen in two in both nineteen ninety. The and one thousand nine hundred ninety two and still didn't even make the Super Bowl as Jerry looks around the Metrodome Locker Room. He sees distractions left and right and and it's all stuff he could have predicted. He's kicking himself as he sees dion on his cell phone. Who even use as one of those dumb things? Another distraction dion rap album primetime was released today by MC Hammer's labeled bust it records the lead single is titled Must Be the money with other tracks including Primetime I'm keeps on ticking. Say Hi to the bad Guy House of prime and time for prime reprise during their workout. Yesterday dion was teaching some teammates a new end endzone dance Jerry. Thinks this is just not someone who's taking the actual game seriously enough and now right over there. Jerry sees to linemen shirtless. Yes in play wrestling players nearby. Them are laughing and egging them on. Jerry has officially had enough. He shouts guys. Hey guys we're trying to get her before a game. The Locker Room Falls silent. The niners lose to the Vikings Twenty one fourteen. Just Jerry feared. Dion came with a price. He better be worth it in the playoffs. Especially against those damn cowboys. The forty niners have the. NFL's best record at thirteen and three. Jerry's hundred twelve twelve receptions in nearly fifteen hundred yards receiving both lead the. NFL Indians had the best season of his career. His three hundred and three interception return in yards and three picks returned for touchdowns are tops in the league. In fact he'll be named defensive player of the year. It's a couple of weeks later. January Fifteenth Nineteen ninety-five at Candlestick Park. The forty niners are taking on the cowboys in the NFC championship game. Dallas the League's newest dynasty is is extremely confident as it looks to lock up its third straight super bowl appearance cowboys. Receiver Alvin Harper. WHO Like Jerry wears number eighty is talking talking trash before kick-off number eight fake number eighty over probably come away kick addresses his teammates with the veins in his neck pulsating he pleads with them if you have any pride at all we cannot we they will not lose? His speech is followed with some primal yells. All around the forty niners when introduced by the announcer dion in his red Bandanna China does his Primetime Dance Jerry. Meanwhile jobs out seriously with his helmet on it's late in the first half the niners lead twenty four to fourteen. Ven Young goes back to throw touchdown just went right by dion. Meanwhile Shuts Down Harper. Who has just one reception all day and Dion even suffocates Michael Irvin? When he's assigned to the other cowboys star plays the forty niners force five cowboy turnovers and clinch the NFC championship? Thirty eight twenty eight. They're finally going back to the Super Bowl. If Jerry can play like this just one more time. It's pretty clear that have what it takes to beat the San Diego chargers and together together when a ring but first they'll have to survive a week plus cooped up in the same hotel and they'll have to get along so so yeah a big if. Hey here's some things that better undeniably tough to do waking up at five. Am to go for a five mile. Run those pushups. Were you clap in the middle of or establishing yourself as the Liz O of Sports podcasting podcasting. It's pretty much impossible. She's an icon also talking about e D. Yeah that last one so E. D. is really really hard to talk about but with our sponsor Roman. 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If he were to switch over to sports radio he probably hear about how he's the major story of the Super Bowl the media is obsessing over his mansions and his rap album. They're talking about his jewelry and custom-made close. They're going on and on about the car. He's currently partly tooling around in. which dion called quote a gift from myself to myself because only I know what I want? They're talking about how he took. His teammates made the self professed old school. Gary plummer out on the town. The Hey Gary plummer who thought he'd hate the on before the season one newspaper even even has a dion watch which reports on every single time primetime spot at around town. Dion leaves the Lamborghini unattended at the entrance into the Blue Lagoon Hilton. He shows up wearing a visor turned upside down and backwards. Big Sunglasses gold chains and a white striped warm up suit inside aside the ballroom. Dion in stream of consciousness tells reporters that after he retires. He wants a private lake with efficient named Bubba he also says he wants to host host. TV show called fishing with the prime time cell phone then rings. Dion announces to the gathered media. MOMS Colin gotta go and and just like that. The interview is over at practice the next day. Dion who's wearing a black BANDANNA and red shorts feels the team is to tents then everyone needs to loosen up so he rolls a football to a teammate. Who runs in scoops it up and throws it like a baseball outfielder pretend catcher makes the tag and a fake umpire yells? You're out the players nearby double over laughing and high five each other. Meanwhile Jerry Wearing Jersey and his team issue football pants is standing with head coach. George Siefert and his staff. Rice is all business. The forty niners are favored by double digits. Hits over the chargers but Jerry knows that this is no time for complacency. He knows it's especially easy to lose. Focus during super bowl week with all the HOOPLA and hype hype Dion Glances over at Jerry who he notices has a very serious look about him after five months playing with the star receiver. Dion still doesn't feel like he knows Jerry. He's mysterious loner. Often Diaz spot jerry by himself in the cafeteria or in the locker room shadows ddos. He's the best player ever dion thinks but he doesn't seem to have the relationships the friends that make the game fulfilling. He's not enjoying the ride. It's Thursday morning at the hotel during a team. Meeting SEAFORD stands in in front of his players. He's mad he says. Hey it's come to my attention that a bunch of you guys missed your eleven pm curfew last night. This is unacceptable bowl and I'm gonNA find out exactly who it was ashamed. Expressions overtake player faces. Huge heads drop Jerry then rises. He Says No. We'll handle this ourselves. Siefert nods the coaches leave. Rice is live it even more so than Siefert. Here we go. Oh thinks dion prime time of course was one of the twenty five guys who broke curfew. Jerry shouts to all of you who missed curfew last. Snipe were not in Miami to hang out or to have a good time. We're here to win the Super Bowl party anytime all during the year but not uh now hell I'll even party with you when it's all over but right now we're preparing for the biggest game of our careers and know that nobody remembers the loser user of a super bowl. If you WANNA be champions. It's time you all behave like champions. When he's done dion stands up calmly? He says to Jerry area in the group. Look you know damn well. We're going to beat them. Breaks off San Diego. I understand that this was Saturday. Well this Wednesday so everybody just calm down. Don't get some bananas shape. WE'RE GONNA win my thirty anyway. What's the difference? We got this all right in unison. About a hundred it is whip over to Jerry. Rice can't believe what he's hearing. Calm down here at the Super Bowl Lou. Joe Montana Ronnie Lotte Roger Craig Thinking Right now. Jerry stands back up and approaches dion. There's more arguing watching the two superstars shouting and moving towards each other star Star. Forty nine a running back. Ricky watters is growing increasingly alarmed. He thinks are they gonNA throw down Luckily Dion. Jerry are separated. Aided Dion sits down and the meeting ends. It seems that cooler heads have prevailed but it's apparently not over later by the hotel pool. ooh Jerry and dion resume their argument once again they have to be separated with the Super Bowl just three days away. Jerry Indians five five year long conflict on the field has erupted off of it in plain view and into a full-blown civil war Sunday afternoon. January twenty nine at Joe Robbie Stadium as the forty niners. Take the field for Super Bowl. Twenty nine Jerry is satisfied satisfied again. Everyone made curfew last night including the on the incident from earlier in the week seems to have refocused everyone just in time Jerry. Jerry did what he needed to do less than two minutes into the game. Steve Young is looking to throw frank. gehry right Fifth Super Bowl touchdowns pudding defensively safety men and they were like they were paralyzed. They're almost like I'm looking for an autograph who went by the niners. Pour it on. Just as dion had guaranteed by the third quarter. San Francisco is ahead. Thirty thirty five to ten. Don't grow but a pair. Jerry landed awkwardly dog in fact rice. dislocates hates his shoulder on the play later when Jerry has to rebuttal his chin strap it's too painful to lift his arms. Jerry then hears a voice. Hey need some help. Nope it's dion. He tenderly hold Jerry's helmet with his black glove and is the strap. Thanks Prime Jerry says late in the fourth quarter. After yet another rice touchdown catch makes it forty nine to eighteen San Francisco. He's Dion who gets into the act that over the fans Saturday as the clock ticks down rice smiles and waves at his now. Wife Jackie in the stands and of his tenth seasonally. And he's he he's never been better and he's such a professional. That's the beauty of Jerry. Rice nobody team worked hard very right there. That's that's the standard for all. The celebration is on Jerry. Rice is Super Bowl. MVP once again under the bright camera. Lights Steve Young then asks it's February first. Three days later back in Santa Clara young pulls into the niners practice does facility to be expected. The place is empty quiet except for the sound of a single set of cleats meeting the turf. Young looks out to the field old jerry. Rice is not at Disneyland. He's by himself. Running Crisp routes also to be expected. It's the summer of Nineteen nineteen ninety five and a Bay Area Photo Studio Dion. Sanders is posing a Miami Dolphins uniform. After several camera clicks he changes into a Dallas cowboys. All Boys Uniform next he puts jerseys for the eagles. Forty niners broncos. It's for the cover art of his upcoming Sega. video-game dion still hasn't isn't decided where he's going to play next year he's waiting until baseball season's over to make a decision prime time is only considering super bowl contenders and the media media speculation never ends. The talking heads are saying that whoever dion chooses will be the super bowl favorites earlier in the year. All the speculation was even a subject of demons monologue when he hosted Saturday night. Live as your know a month ago. The San Francisco go boarding. Addis won the Super Bowl now my country. Because I'm I'm a free agent about a week ago. Lorne michaels calm. You made me offer. He said I got a good eighteen. Here it is but it could be a great team. I need you in reality. Dion leaning toward the forty niners. Who Want Him Back Diaz? Mom wants him to play closer to home. So Miami would be great though. She expects him to stay in San Francisco with the dominant Super Bowl Champs Carmen policy the niners president puts their odds better than fifty percent at resigning him across the country legendary dolphins head coach Don Shula. He's also interested in Dion on in Texas cowboys owner. Jerry Jones wants dion desperately but Dallas. Just doesn't have the money available under the salary cap. The Denver Broncos then make a strong offer raiders owner. Al Davis enters sweepstakes offering dion a huge deal. Dion tells the niners that he really wants to come back. But it'll take at least three million a year. There's no hometown discount for the niners. This is a problem. Rice is oh two point six million dollars this season the highest of any non quarterback in football. There's just no way the niners can offer more than they are without offending rice. Meanwhile San Francisco's legendary. January whiteout has been following all along with this dion free agency fiasco hearing the numbers being thrown around for this over the top. CORNERBACK pisses them off. He thinks here's a guy who's GonNa skip training camp to play baseball. Who might not even show up until the seasons half over and he's demanding more money than I had to a big for this isn't right? niners management also understands this so the niners decide that their best hope is for dion to accept less money to come back here to win another ring the forty niners know that they have other advantages to dion lives in nearby Fremont where MC hammer are is his neighbor and Sega. The Video Game Company for which Dion is a spokesperson is based in the area as well even more significant Diaz Baseball team the Cincinnati reds heads just traded him to the San Francisco giants. That's a huge boost to the niners. Chances of keeping D on the fold all those talking heads are now predicting addicting that the forty niners will re signed the on and win another super bowl. It's Saturday September ninth at the Cowboys Valley Ranch Practice Facility Outside Dallas at a press conference alongside owner Jerry. Jones Dionne appears wearing a navy stripe business suit diamond earrings and cowboy's hat just just after midnight last night dion signed seven year. Thirty five million dollar contract making him the league's highest paid defensive player. Ever it took six cowboys including friend. Wide Receiver Michael Irvin agreeing to renegotiate their contracts to accommodate dion and the team salary cap. The deal includes promises that dion gets to play some offense for Dallas. I'm looking forward to the I asked him put on his football field or the put on edge style which one mile when you wanted to Ordina negative history everyday on my helmet you know as a kid. Dion promised his mom. He'd be so rich that she'd never have to work again. And now he's very rich about twice as rich in fact as Jerry Rice plus demons twelve million dollar signing bonus is also the largest just in NFL history. The truth is after winning his super bowl with the niners. Dion didn't feel satisfied. He's hungry for something else. Now if he can and be the difference again for another team and earned even more money maybe then he'll feel completely satisfied so dion has now officially officially joined. The forty niners most hated opponent and because of it Jerry. Rice and Dion Sanders are rivals. Once again it's September tenth tenth the day after Cowboys Press Conference Jerry's at his locker at candlestick park moments after he caught two touchdowns in the forty niners forty one to ten win over Red Lanta. But he's not satisfied. He's actually quaking with rage before the game. Fox reported that Jerry Rice never even call Dion. Try and sell them on coming back to San Francisco during the niners recruiting battle with Dallas. This was the last straw after a ton of articles suggested that the forty forty niners won the super bowl because of dion and that they can't win without him so now Jerry's had enough. He blows up to nearby reporters. His voice booming off locker room walls. You know what we are angry. You guys turn the ship into a circus. No one individual wins King Super Pro Bowl. It's a team effort. It was insult you guys wrote. It's an insult to the guys who busted their butts during mini camp in the entire season. A nearby forty niners. Pr Rep is trying to calm jerry down to tug him away from saying anything he'll later regret but Jerry's ignoring he's not finished he thunders Dion Sanders. This came to this team for half a season. You guys didn't give any of our other players any respect and that pisses me off. They should get the recognition that they deserve. And and I want each of you to know that in the final episode of Our story Jerry Jerry and dion returned to being competitors and compete in their last and most contentious showdown yet and as their careers wind down and in the years that follow blow the each will face struggles that could fundamentally change them and that will bring the rivalry full circle. I hope you enjoyed this episode of sports worse. If you did you can subscribe. Drive on Apple podcasts. spotify Google podcast wondering DOT COM or wherever. You're listening to this right now. If you're listening on a smartphone tap or swipe over the cover art you'll find the episode notes and some authors from our sponsors by supporting our sponsors. You help us offer you the show for free if you like. What you've heard we'd love for you to give us a five star rating in? Tell your friends how to subscribe. Somebody's going to ask you. Listen to podcasts. Any podcast to recommend boom there. You are heroes. 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Vlife Episode 7

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Who Roasting in inkster Robichon and I went to Rhino funny? But you kind of have a little bit more it but when I got the Rheinland state was hit me. I'm GonNa tell you was fighting. You might decide. Decide how much to rob me. You better not touch me boy do we roast we we talk about it in good health but like this ever met in my life came from Romulus Se. Les when they say some much Emma you just be done like Oh yeah Ramleh. Mommy will do what Mama I don't. Don't worry my Mama like we mama was free. He was getting on somebody. Mom Don't be cranky or something. I'll be walking the streets. You CRAPPO Kirpal me. It's just it's so interesting like hearing all of your different stories because I'm from the suburbs and so like shit like that did not pop off at all. I mean in my high school people like argued but it was like over stupid shit like boys and like I don't know everybody was pretty much time. Did you have the high school where they just like the the main Zeros Eisenhower also shelby township. She'll did you have a mean girl that just to tell people like no no. You're just a lame nurture group Yeah and the people just like it was separated like that nerdy doing over those little. Those were movies like that but I was one of the people then went to every table. Yeah I was accepted at every table like the super super cool PD. I was and I was like listen. I'm not gonna fly but returned by me. I'll make sports people. I play auto sports. I did like one or two and a half but I was cool. He's worth the nerds hours. Kinda cool with them. Because I was held smart but anyway away no Like being cool. I don't know but it's still like out of his way more. Do you know the nurse just offers. It depends though in Utah. Everybody was like priding themselves about being done everything they making APPs dude they they're doing all the cybercrime to make music back in the day. Used to burn. you see Schumer Genre. Do me a favor. Don't even remember ever. BP FREE CD man he was he was doing he was the last. I had to tell the GAL. Look you need time selling frigging CDs because everybody has now streaming APPs Dr Choi the DVD's. We're often buddies. Are there with them. Now we're we're it's got about ninety. DVD Wasp where uh-huh DVD's as me. They had movies today. Like Boy Minister Society actually or was it like talk twenty candidates twenty twenty the class practice nothing new off been in before the pocket all month. Oregano Oregano literally Oregano. Wherever that is crazy the result? You know what I'm freaky Friday just has been crazy. It's been games this Friday this week for me. I've been going to basketball. Gain at school. chewy concessions through walk is black history month and J. Ability recipes very okay. Yeah maybe kind of whiz in his early career You probably even knew he was. He's from Detroit Chicago. The group Costlo finish today as a matter of getting ready to ask uncles uncles. Don't show up okay. Downtown is right like in the middle of my top three producers of Autom- Go using somebody also got I want his gay. Okay okay. We don't like again like funky dog extreme you the winter not everybody winter we know you kind of like we i. I Know Hardens W. I the job with him and he'll say I've got twenty features a look at doing. I'm not saying I'm not saying I agree was given out as and everything. That's not cool. Not Cool case got this bringing. It turns his name his funeral ain't even came in. It was just you just wait it you can wait and everybody was mad at. TMZ wanting her right he got more of the job duty and she knew we don't even know what show from social good morning. Good morning not one American Z.. More of a job to do this. She saw she doing it before it comes on Warner show. Maybe it was a question that pressed by. She says she Indian. I watched her apology. She's I didn't even know interview air marshals long interview. Boys go to do that. Clinton interview right. But she said it was chosen recent and he's Kobe Bryant best and biggest basketball players more time. Yeah especially this time. It was elite premature. Was He convicted. No while what all right. What is the purpose of bringing in? Okay wasn't as saviors for the ratings show. He you didn't convict. You know properly cobaine did to him afterwards it around to somebody. It's GonNa wait ten fifteen you gotta do some O J. We'll be right on killing bills ninety bill when he was nine. Somebody walking him into place. slushy Coca Cola. They walked in Jail Ninety Years Initiative. Seventy years ago right and I'm sure somebody brought it up Kobe. Or even years ago Man Sixteen Sixteen alive and money go. Did you know that was sixteen years ago. Now Colby went through that that was sixteen years ago. What did you and he did? Hugh is for ratings people. Talk to the filleting only Elliot target. But I do feel as me Vlad. Early like Some people were saying we do need to steal. He'll get his same energy of winners other people doing the same thing you know what I'm saying. We can't go crazy because it's her he's like you gotta show people people that when other people do it. It's like we would they target in a CD. Sheila Jackson has rate. She didn't they they they did so much coverage on bill cosby or should about rate they did it. R Kelly rate and then. She's trying to Russell Simmons and that's about right like y'all see see a pattern or bringing rape Kobe Bryant rallies a hidden and be happy with all of of those different interviews. It's kind of like Ari Lennox. She has spoken out on her instagram. As per usual. And she said that that she felt like The men that she was interviewing we're constantly like they were male models and they're constantly being torn down so I don't know male models male role models. Oh Yeah of course. Yeah the ones you play right. But they're men and their steel a human. That's cool as women. I think I definitely go to the things that the different Things that we go through with me. That's cool too okay. I'll take the light on was going on the cool to tear now people just because they I don't think it's necessarily about tearing down somebody as much as it is like being truthful and honest about who that that person was because yeah nobody's going to be perfect not everybody especially celebrities. Not Everybody can be fucking perfect human exactly but not to say that like doc rape is something that's justifiable. But it's something that he did just because he's dead doesn't movie cams actually think that he wrote ago. I don't know but all I know is if a woman says it most times as a rape victim myself like I'm GonNa believe her. She had three different Siemens in her underwear. So maybe it was a game day. I mean leg. When are they going to target the the millionaire a I just haven't had two hundred three hundred four hundred million but that doesn't always matter. It's always it's always a silver lining because you have the people who's doing it militias just to give money and it's taking it away from the actual yes uh-huh who actually suffered real trauma behind rape and other things like that. Yeah and that's the part that makes it sad and then there's other people now trying to capitalize all out that is well which is also said because it's people who really rbm traumatized probably even the word rape can make them just trigger. It could trigger something so you just never know and I just think it's just okay when it's okay for for you. Know the media saying Oprah right me time stopping. We've leave Kaelin Oprah ochre alone killing okra while Kelly oaken mother fuckers. uh-huh back when we go green green what they do have a problem with Though is the fact that you know like you just brought up the fact that you know we uplifting are black successful men but I just WanNa get that same energy from men oblivion black successful instead of always she ob-gyn. Yeah this because I feel like we go through a lot not just black women. Single Black Wemyss miss assess for black women black women as a whole and is bad enough that we have a society against you then to top it off our own means Leeann is also not having our back stores because Uber from coming from what you've experienced yourself or is that coming from your heart. Say Somebody I would say that. I've seen things I've heard some experience because I am a you know. Single Black Woman and entrepreneur. You're in nature more like get area right right because if you go in there being there for differ is that clearly but I know it's like where is this James Support you know it's it's there's guys out here. Who Have you know money? They had things going on. And you see somebody you don't I don't see a lot of them saying you know what unless they dating you for them moment seemed like when they break up with you national hair shop back on houses just everyone else. Yeah you don't want it on. I feel like I can agree but I can't agree. I like black women get a lot of love like when I go other places as I mean maybe not here but what we really need to be. This is when I go to places Michigan the land in the south shore up here north. You got these guys. They don't see the only a few. It's just hated. Is Dan when you go other places they are show him. I don't now I feel like a lot of this. Love is all like instagram twitter. It's social media love. Because I don't really see him at all your perfect example but when I went to Atlanta I seen a different level of love when I say that I'm being serious seem that's leadin has mad and they have a plaza out there. Everybody that owned the whole notion coach them a million times. It's probably like a plaza. You know like what do you call a little more not a real mom shopping center. Everyone else stores black women on the whole thing. Are they managed or the whole right now at the time. Black women are right ahead and when it comes to ship on twenty twenty beings beings beings being if you say oh I need to get my hair. Oh such such as do your hair. I need my nails done so she said I was looking Also having a party I need somebody to make the cakes about the call. My home girl. She makes the kicks over here in Utah for your travelers of black success. So you gotta think. They're looking out for the knicks business. His owner that they there's like them. Like yeah you know what look at her she got this so they are plugging each other whereas some cities is still more division where people like not really support one another it things at or even if it's not supporting one another. They're like supporting franchises. That our own. That aren't even black own right. It's like I get. It isn't a name. Yeah for the name for the convenience because to be honest I've tried to like shop entirely black. It's hard as fuck late Sunday. The clothes that I have on right now are black. I do my dishes. Maybe it's hard to not having those those Being taught how to run a business properly or to have great customer survey that sometimes some some people just get in their day started running some. They lived his mind. You know you don't want to shop. They added to your not freaking Walmart where people go and plus and they're gonNA come right back down the street. You can't just talk to me any kind of way you still. You know what I'm saying and I'm in slots it's not to catch you up but one thing before I forget I forget again was what I was gonNA phase where they consciously set for black men. Is they always go for a not a other race of woman. And that's the part that I was GonNa say about ninety four and then it's not always majority will you. Okay okay. Athlete some actors of you would not be the elephant in the room. But what do you think the train is is. Is it a problem with you guys but I hear I hear professional black hole black women crazy. I'm not going to say it was a professional athlete. I'm just like really nice. Because is it not because of their success or maybe because when you get to the top. It's not really many black and that's what house I'd say we don't act is not always there because of course you have when you go into these colleges and you have these young black athletes going into these certain Ivy League schools are certain. Schools is not a lot of people from the neighborhood that they are used to seeing there and then these other guys is coming in. SLOOP them up. But it's like at some point in Europe I use. I mean because it's like it's like it's like okay. You can't see where where do I go to. I'm up here at the show but they might be follow this guy on facebook book. I say foul follow him. I don't even know who he is. I can't remember his name but somewhere we came and swooped him up the house and she lived there. It's funny I was just talking started. This who I was just to my cousin about this is he was talking to this girl. She's got a kid and everything and I guess she had like a product that was being sold at Walmart and she was going to sell this company or whatever the product was worth fifty million dollars. She's like our age. She's fucking fifty million dollars and they also. Yeah Yeah. I mean. They weren't working. We got to work it out because I love you. I came never fall out of legit. You got Apparently they did. You got fifty million dollars though. Yanni look the because if you get it's become not if but when you become success food you gotta go to the top of let. Let me get this little Kim light you come home or you have anybody in his room dated outside Yes yes I've never dated. I never did that looking like the Komo dating and being in DC the standard essence. Listen I can still be pro black instill date whoever the Su Andy ask you never even if you're it somebody outside of your race but it's different when you're like talking shit about the literally the race that you are like your mother is fucking black right now and you're sitting up here talking walking down on black in and actually oh yeah then sexy Latina Blah Blah Blah. You know that you have a bit Archaic Bug Women Bitter Angry Dollar in society auto rates Yawkey if you WANNA call me collect behalf buyers along you gotTa jail call. You got the whole dog with Listrik because I'll be in both positions I've been the mother got a call him. Collect and I've been sitting here when somebody calling Claire. I'M GONNA be somebody calling even tell well you know following up and get somebody from. That's ACID I. Don't do him money he might be in a whole other at a prison. Always understand the prison life. You'll get out there and Yada governor judges let our did. I'll stay two weeks league loyalties gang. A family is my homeboy was gone coup with at the at the top with the people that are in there with now they text you. Do you have the same time. The you understand like the time has Ashur fast time going you out in about versus where you win. They're thinking people's listening to everybody going on foods they just got a press. You got to do this. I have to be on your hair go me involved Hamburg. Sarah girl is how e- Asking you is how I get it so we better salesman than damn money in. They need to make your telemarketers people cigar guy looking went to learn how to he learned how to dice out of he made how to do shock. He learned how to do stock in I think I can't think of he got. He got life sentence. He's from California Shit life sentence he wasn't in. I think he was like eighteen. He learned how to do stock while he was in there. And he made like fifteen million dollars. Where do you don't do it it? We have on him distractions. Give him a lot of different stuff that I guess you got. You might as well make it as best as you can. You can have hold ask rooms. And they're like they're kind of Nice considering him. At least we got his name is name of the Guy Super Soaker. Tiny was his last name. Connie some junior high about doc. It's crazy I think that was awesome because I was asking some of my students but once you look at right there. Some of the benches That modern inventions that they I don't even know like we always running around with super soaker with a little extra backpack with double battles unabashed new ventures and things like this stuff in the twentieth century. Got Seventy six if nobody is knowing we're talking about is black history month so we just giving out black history facts. VM Mitch the man. We can't create. This is connie gas six million dollars just this month. I'm Lonnie Johnson and Lonnie Ninety Johnson. County seventy six. He was awarded seventy six million dollars including Johnson and he was awarded that seventy seventy six point. Nine eight created Super Super Soaker. He's a black man. He was a nuclear facilities. Getting the money and superstar came out. Man That was that eight eight eight came out and no it came out in the nineties. Yeah ordered nine hundred ninety nine and Can we do one more google. Can we go go. How much? Super soaker grossed eight deaths where we gotta get down those numbers number numbers. You can get 'cause I just feel like seventy six point. Nine million isn't enough is enough not enough. He can if he still residuals. Individuals have been already nuclear physicist as well. so He's already getting. I feel like it's not enough for you. Know for your product. Now it's not enough for over over twenty years. It's been up with ninety thirty twenty twenty now forgotten. We ought to look into the money for the Just another black history mobile we get our first black talking for Um yes. y'All ready originally sold by Laremy and now produced by Hasbro under the NERF brand super soaker has generated more than one and billion dollars total sales billions. And he only got seventy two point nine MIL. That ain't enough. That's not enough. That's not enough ten one hundred millions. They have this conversation penny reads. He's got his own version of a billion humanity humiliate teams thinking differently. Okay calculator result was little. You know a hundred million. Tom Stanton is a billion. Yeah Okay Yeah. The seventy two million enough is not up to a million dollars is one million dollar bills. Please tell him he doesn't from product created. It came as he's getting still getting some type of money off of the invention of royalty thank you might. He might still get a small percentage. You get like a creator rights or on a contract. If he wanted to get that that type of money back from he wrote something for on the back end I hope so. She's allergic to say right. Then he made them paid five hundred in front of my Stepdad. ooh Get messed it up overestimate. ABC girl maybe. Maybe aw semo moral beggars weird. It is my both my friend wrapping everything right. She's She's an entrepreneur guest female Jamie Foxx. She she got a lot of talent. I I don't think she's that funny. But if you watch it in person sheets for the senior standard US senior which is based on which is opinion because a lot of people don't like certain music and just because I don't like Kevin Hart nothing. He's he's alert it. Yeah I can't even he can't come. You'll like his commercials. Yeah it against the newbies if he's Richard pry Career Fox and all that time offers passed away when he come here to this month or next year. My Dad thank you know. He's on the show. Aren't that's all right with the Sabbath sidebar conversation. Keep back to the circle here. I was off topic all over the place. Everybody was palace. Fuck what what is. What is the topic again? Well we haven't actually talked about it but that's okay okay 'cause we wanted to give some vicarious for next next week maybe very well you know. Yeah I think we should we. Should we squeeze. She returned relax. Its research to try to get them. Well the topic for today originally was epidemics when they hit urban communities search rural communities such as such as own. Wonder you crack the coroner sugar. So what do you know why that when it when certain things come to us is what about it. It's not epidemic till he leaves our coaching even with you. You know epidemic bean a Just up like that S Unisys starts hitting white communities. Everyone's like Oh my God we got to do something about it and then they do something about it. Double Bang even get thrown in prison. And I'll tell you. Ah I took my family off trump drugs in my brother facility. Yup Yup and all of those people that were convicted for these non violent crimes are still in there serving. Not even like in Las Vegas they visit Sweetie Gar- you can't smoke marijuana. I mean basically if you test for marijuana in your If you test for marijuana in your Ajab that's okay. They're not going to test because Hainer on some jobs vegas any job you. It's you know. They're not tested for. Yeah insider right now. You still can't do that here. You know doc center. I mean I couldn't imagine doing my job high. Oh my God no that would stress me out that Glen. I couldn't do that but anybody else do that. With the one I watched Dave Chapelle he's talking about were drugs. The war on drugs is bullshit. Heroin is bigger than the white. Yes yes he was just twenty two where he was saying Cipro. Yeah but in the eighties really start pushing dictate the day. Like push those drugs into the I l.. regress was his The person that he was getting his bruce from. Let's see I He he got time to do from. CIA Work Brick Ross. I think that's what they're trying to. That's what they may snowfall offer. Snowfall is based on the real rick. Ross snowfall on a show show. Great named Franklin is about the real freeway. Ricky watters lug is this guy he's doing work for the CIA as well as Supplying Los Angeles with turns of cocaine have never heard of life where he is the first. This is based on a true story. So he's not the rapper. I I know I know I know the drug pusher who actually at no person because I met him like come on and He came out continues to her. We got some pictures together. I G got a book out like a real smart. Do as they're learning. How to a US? You like everybody's using his name. He's learning how to finally make money because he was out here. You know getting out of prison broke leg and people out here for your way for your way. Oh you know Rick Rodriguez in this like Whoa. So now you know. Someone taught him how to make money and use his brand because he's become a brand actually and that's crazy somebody else but yes I mean. Couple of motivating book like documentary does a lot of over Jay presson thinking into the cannabis. Potty he got his own package When they get in the opioid think it's been a big deal like everybody? We know the oxy cotton's they was taking over baby. People was getting money off them things. It's how many Indian Dr Star going to jail. They license areas so that was pushed as well. Uh Yeah Yeah This designer appeal again. I get some of the guys are getting smart here pushing drugs much anymore. So thank the data after the corner and by the USA you support cocaine and I was along for Coco Right. It's it's not GonNa get you know you'd think you just hooked Pepsi. Because his pants. I think they've put chemicals coke. It's no big caffeine. Replace the coke but what can you replace away shows. No now what happens with Eddie. Parker said Zanny came from the rural communities into the urban community. Just came from. And how long would the dope fees. Yeah Okay I can't find crack K.. Find me make what you got over there. You got what you got in the cab. You often hospitals rehabs this gets you off. They realize Oh. That's what they want you off of this put ornate. It's another dependency still generating punishment and that's why I think it's done. May You mean sleep just for you so some people would do all that to put them in a different state coordinated you the I mean. I didn't find any statistics but I found some length information. Yeah so okay. Going back to the war on drugs I was reading an article written by a black man who suffered from drug abuse in his name was Brian Broom And he was discussing how America views the drug dependency and they classify people differently based upon whether they're black or white so for instance like white people are considered victims of drug abuse and blacks are called addicts. Do you see how like the connotation is completely different Yeah not did you just realize that was watching the show and they would within. He's a victim of this. He's isn't isn't even shanties. Just going through things. Yes but when I do it they'd be like Oh you ought to try now you we know better addict Jeans Kanji. You only a coke coke hunky dog people right. Yeah that is true them and then also in that same article He was interviewing another woman who her name was Erika upshaw Geffner and she explained that before the epidemic or the opioid academic epidemic mic was. Even a thing can't talk right now. I'm so excited She was working with people in this population and she was saying it wasn't called an OPIOID opioid epidemic. It was just called. Oh this person's a heroin addict like it wasn't it wasn't given that title until started infiltrating these white communities and and then they started finding solutions so now they have these. Now they're even offering I see is that they know you have a child or a loved one. One is some of these real rural communities. That is a attic or a victim they give you actual like the I forget the name of the shot. Did they give you when you owe the shoot you in the heart. I'm a shot. But they give tells them in there for the home so they can like put it on them and try to make revive because they know that they're on drugs clearly to be honest like Kapila. Addiction is a sickness is not just an addiction you know. People bodies are depending on how to function. I mean the withdrawals it's just like You know people who take medicine for the kidneys or diabetes. They need that to function. And it's the same thing with this. The opiates but people don't look at it as a sickness. They look at them. 'cause we are now we don't sing some people in East St Street st themes like less than human. And it's just ridiculous but you get money off them every day and they're feeding kids. I mean they habit habit you got a disease. Have a sickness of Yo Stomach Lou out here hungry which that yeah. That's the same shot you gotta get the NARC Pulp Fiction. Did you see pulp fiction. John Mark Long time ago and I don't think I actually watched it. It is our hope overdosing something like that in our. Can you feel like somebody's black. Before it was a a billboard or ninety four it was like come get free Narcan. There's doctors giving people so you can revise. I saw epidemic even at Easter a lot of people dying from Vietnam from this. Is this a worldwide. So so now they just trying to make sure if you had somebody here. Maybe we won't get there quick enough. You try to get them back as much news or even see. I don't know if it's true. I I Luna Research. But I've seen candidates said they legalize heroin use to it. Was the little caney sites. I don't know they were saying candidate. Legalize laws heroin in Mexico. Legal Day here. That like Colorado legalized like psychedelic drugs. Like Mushrooms Canada in two thousand sixteen in has just approved prescription heroin in two thousand six somehow already just in the packet just like they. Embrace it says League a couple of sheets of that sheet the move means that cross down. A trail-blazing clinic in Vancouver will be able to expand. Its special heroin maintenance program in which addicts come in As many as three times a day and receive prescribed injections of legally obtained heroin from a nurse for free. Wow Mexican court says cocaine use is legal for two people. This was August twenty. See I two thousand people in a landmark ruling. A court in Mexico City has said to people should be allowed to use cocaine legally so it's only two people it's not everybody but how many people it's a I don't know seven seven can I'm doing all right. Oh my goodness that's our time. I'm comedian chambers. That's my time eighty in the buildings eubanks so you guys later in life. Thank you guys will back next week. Same time P sale.

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He was arguably their best defensive player of the top defensive players Phil and they're now out without Jerry Jones, and the Patriots are back at their facility today working out getting ready for Sunday's game against the Denver Broncos big natural for them and it looks like at this point Cam Newton according to field yates is on track to return to practice tomorrow. As well with the premium on track play Sunday against the Denver Broncos in Novi Gordon the broncos running back was arrested for Du. The broncos let them come in. He did go to meetings he did not practice Vic Fangio the broncos coach said, he would talk later this week about whether Melvin Gordon would be disciplined include you'll leak take action and at the same practice drew lock was back practicing full participants or he is on track to play against Cam Newton on Sunday and also Sam darnold out Joe flack starts for the jets great shefty. You're with us all show long. Let's get the Tuesday night football was a lot of fun bills and titans taking each other on and the titans burly practice they had like to total practices and sixteen days without playing dinner lofty might not have mattered. Here's Ryan Tannehill getting ready to go and I drive the game titans from the sixteen. He gets it to AJ Brown off the turn over they put AJ Brown extended. He goes double move is back to the quarterback. Great timing ten hill early touchdown for the Titan top to a hot. Start, they are up seven nothing second quarter we're tied at seven titans on the one second goal. So of course, they're going to get it to Derrick Henry almost scorn this one though this is about the offensive line this offensive line just creating massive hole Derrick Henry, good vision easy touchdown for the run game heightened go up by seven, and then less than thirty seconds to play in the half could score again we'll, of course, they could tannahill easy touchdown red zone quarterback in football right now do not do that to your knee. Thank God. This is something he does really well, make good decisions uses athleticism whatever decision not athletic on the celebration but anyway, third quarter under two minutes to go there in the third quarter and Cana Hill to John Smith John Smith out there as a wide receiver types split one step slant. Does good touchdown for Tennessee Titans win big forty, two to sixteen and Tannehill carrying over from a successful theme from twenty nineteen. He became just the third qb to ever boast a completion percentage of over seventy percent both overall and in the red zone, he joined the company of drew brees and our friend Steve Young and last night. Tina help fight for five for three touchdowns. In the red zone. You mentioned a Dan bringing in season numbers to fourteen eighteen, nine touchdowns and no picks that's insane and very efficient. So he on this team now four no more impressive. They're now eleven. In three in the regular season since Tannehill became the starter why can't they have been so successful with him under center where's the recipe is with migration wants to do is run the football effective dare camry not allow him to turn the football over you see in the red zone he doesn't turn the football that's a recipe. Get the ball to AJ Brown, make sure that you doing those things and he's been very efficient at doing twenty one to twenty eight barely two hundred yards, three touchdowns in the air last night one on the ground with a plunge, you can win a championship. Everybody likes to Patrick Mahomes, high flying. Don't want all over the lot. But if you look back in the history of this NFL defense running ball and super bowl a few big throws here near but you don't win super bowls throwing for five hundred yards in a game Tom Brady didn't come back against the Atlanta Falcons but for the most part that that does not happen the reason this offense clicking. So while those were Ryan. How's the top ten quarterback? I mean he's a top ten quarterback since he became start playing MVP level football in. It's a perfect example of like we scheme sometimes and we talked player traits sometimes well, this is the perfect marriage Ryan Tannehill, a great ball fake and quarterback on the move throwing too wide receivers crossing the field and the tight windows and their scheme is hardball play action wide, receivers that are good enough to make contested. In those play action windows and everybody on their offense has confidence. That's why they're offense is so good right now, they are passed I to score. Runs second to win football team and the coaches and the players are the perfect fit for it. Tennessee's oftens outstanding. It Dana Hills said to they might have been motivated by some of the chatter around the League about them certainly dealing with the covert issues there. But let's get to the other side of the ball here markets. It seemed like the titans defense had that bills a lion confused all night long. What did you see out of them? Ails. Thank. God. We finally get to some defense. Talking about the own, not want to get the boy, how someone his Inner Bill Belichick last night against Josh Allen in this offense, he used their protection against them. He created a pressure look meaning you either bring five or six more than off into black and block but he didn't do that. He just used their protection against them in disguise it as a pressure variable on fire last night and I I usually watch the games have fun doing it. But from a technical aspect, this is what you see from defensive coordinators a lot of the time when they have a lot of success defensively market, you're spot on and even when they did it bring pressure defensively. Josh Allen Play patient quarterback, and let's see if he could do it for four quarters and I thought the first drive of the third quarter is a perfect example that last night, he could not I remember in two thousand eleven I was getting ready to play against the New England patriots. Peyton manning was with us into coats and he kept saying you gotTa Out Grind Bill Belichick Out, grind him and that's exactly what variable challenge Josh. Allen the do will you? Out Grind our defense and he didn't it's gotta be learning example for him but Marcus is spot on. That was a bill belichick type of defensive performance from the titans and makes sense because Rabaul certainly from that Belichick coaching tree and people get hired all the time because of that. But it really looks like what rebels doing is coming to fruition the titans get their first win against a four no or better team since the panthers. Week. Seven. Two thousand three. On Monday night football teams all sitting at three and two in the NFC south the bucks saints and Tampa's you see there marcus spirits give me a reason. The Saints Will Win this division. Is because of their offense listen drew brees has been really really good. We talked about his arm strength, but he's still finding ways to put at least thirty points on the board dig. Thinking Dunkin, they'd taken his opportunities when they come like the past Jared Cook Using Alvin Kamara. But my concern is defense. If anything is going to hold them back the secondary for the saints has to get better in order for this team to be a contender, keep finish the sentence the bucks win the division because Tom Brady and Todd Bowles at Tom Brady somehow could continue to make. Magic, then I think that when you look at them while for instance, they got a lot of weapons whether it's Mike is eventually they get guy went back they won't have OJ Hollywood in somehow resurgence of bronchoscopy with todd. Bowles and that defense adding pressure doing things like that creating turnover was something he's known for, and also the saints gotTa take a little bit of step back out of the Panthers Dan Teddy Bridgewater in this job often offense the best versions ever seen this new teddy bridgewater and the reason there are three two is a big part to his play. Yet thirty one year old offensive coordinator. Joe. Brady has implemented priests out motion on forty, two percent of Carolina's place finding a lot of success with it. They're registering a league leading setting yards per play when using most of you told us about the bad heart. So the most by any since we started tracking metric four seasons ago Dan is so excited about the prisoner motion. How about the AFC south guys in Indianapolis? It's been a tough season for Philip rivers he's thrown five. Interceptions and trails only Daniel Jones, and Sam Darnold for the worst red zone Qbr in the league and that all coming despite the averaging the fourth best starting field position in the week. So it's not like they're not giving him a good chance to have success but Dan is it time for the colts to make a change keep in mind you Kobe percent is their backup there it's time. It's time for the to make a change because the only thing that's going to keep. This football team out of the playoffs is turnovers and we don't have to just focus on this year when it comes to Philip rivers because my biggest concern is the turnovers that are non panic situations like other times the quarterback in the NFL turn the ball over because we're panicking pressure or whatnot but Phil, ververs is doing it without panic and again, this is not a five-game sample going back to the start of last year. Phil purposes third in the NFL and turnovers behind. Daniel Jones and James Winston and the worst one is he second in the NFL when it comes to interceptions in his own territory since last year behind Jameis, Winston not only is he hurting his team turnovers he's hurting his team in his own territory with turnovers. This is not going to change. This is who Philip is right now. Unfortunately, he's hall of Famer, but he can't be the starting quarterback of the coach anymore because he's hurting their team that's one thing you can't do. One hundred percent agree with you Dan. We talked about Jacoby Bruce said, and how will he was plan before the injury last year but I believe as well. It gives you an another element to the team and Philip rivers was brought into steady the ship and basically make those roles that you just showed in order to pick up first downs. This is a running football team based on their often to blame being good and make splash plays with ty guys on the outside. But when you look at what Philip Rivers doing to your point, he's taken away everything they brought him in to do. So now you implement Jacoby. In this offense who also gives you a little bit more athleticism as we see that start the play itself out in the NFL as well. I, think they're in better hands. Would you go Brusett I thought he played well last year in his spots in the moments they gave him a contract in order to reassure him that he was the guy now. Give him a shot to take to see where it can possibly go Philip rivers. Time is certainly up in Indianapolis and I understand frank right has a relationship with him from San Diego Charger days there's no question about it. He helped Philip make some money, twenty, five million dollars. But this is what I would say frank who played with me the date myself. Frank play would be Dan in the New York jets and great guide. It's time for him to go over to Philip. Say Look I'M GONNA give way to Jacoby perset. I. Want you to stay loose. You know our coaches tell you just stay ready because we're going to need you at some point give him that message allowed to Kobe. To take over a football team that has a chance an opportunity because of the Defense Philip Rivers Pick sydell waiting to happen why squander your opportunity right now in this division messing around with a guy that simply just can't do it anymore yeah. You know one of the things that we usually do here on this show is if you say, San, Diego, chargers you gotta do push ups but back then they Were the San Diego chargers. So I'M GONNA. Let you get off on that and all right one thing to, and you mentioned that the turnovers could be the reason why this team loses you talked about a to reset has thrown an interception on just one point three percent of his pass attempts for rivers. It's nearly triple that guys and that mark is three point four percent over the last couple of seasons. An enormous AFC north clash coming your way Sunday browns versus steelers the browns inter with a formidable pass defense as their six interceptions trail only colts seahawks for the League lead. But though face rookie chase playful who earned AFC offensive player of the week honors after tying a rookie record with four touchdowns on Sunday tea was dynamic. Our football power index favors the home team the steelers in this one with a fifty seven. percent chance to win as both need a win to keep up with the division rivals in Baltimore. So we mentioned chase playful Dan key klay full has emerged seemingly as V number one receiver for big, Ben Well, you can't be a number one receiver unless you can run routes and chase clean pools kind of put that on display and when you look at him in College Notre Dame's offense wasn't quite what Pittsburgh steelers. Passing game is but you got a veteran hall of fame quarterback throwing you the football you're going to run the right rouse. There's no question about it. The Pittsburgh steelers long history wire receiver. So I was never worried about his production in Pittsburgh despite having Juju near eleven's a playmaker I love a guys and when you think about Juju Smith Schuster, it's important to note he missed practice today with a knee injury so. You gotta think you'll be seeing a whole ton of clay pool against the browns. Let's get back to last night some really fun moments in this one of course, the titans with a big win over the buffalo bills in Josh Allen, and there were some great plays. Marcus. Spears the WE WANNA get you all up to date on. So let's start with this one Malcolm Butler interception and he gets a little freaky with it. Yeah listen he spends out of a tackle about colby easily they think down everybody relaxes then Malcolm Butler takes off again now missing. Out Josh Allen as well for getting them on the ground but this was a tremendous job keeping his feet and returning that ball getting the Tennessee titans in their own territory. Okay. That's one. Made US cringe a little bit markets you walk us through the whole thing. Okay. Celebrations could be catastrophic ten. He'll does a tremendous job because the buffalo bills lost contain and then here he hyper extended his knee. Thank goodness for sixteen days all with fresh legs and he survived that catastrophic landing. We all take a deep breath and he was okay and then how `bout this Derrick Henry with a stiff arm I keep telling these people own in these football games. You cannot get in this club. If you eighteen years old, you must be twenty one we sail choice beverages and Josh. Norman. Obviously thought he was old enough to go through the front door and Derrick Henry was the bouncing. Funny. About it is every time he does that it just looks like he was kind of flipping off a flyer or something like it doesn't even look like it's that hard for him to do. You guys think it's. Look. I don't want to be in that position. If I'm Josh Norman that's for sure and you gotTa know what you running up on he sometimes it got to be a business decision shop his legs down man we run up on that do like that hugh h try. Poor Josh. He's going to be on alert. Is. In Josh Take, some solace. Site to do something that you regret on national television, it'll go away. Takes about ten years, ten years or so kill. We're back on NFL live in this from the ESPN NFL twitter account today follow him by the way who is your pick for MVP so far? This is not a QB. So naturally Dan Orlovsky is very active on twitter chimes then he just says twelve. So we're a little confused because it's supposed to be not a quarterback, the quarterback, Dan, it said not quarterback. So did you mean Alan Robinson Van Jefferson although I do like Van Jefferson no the twelve is Fran Rogers when I did not see the non quarterback part of that so. All right. Well, anyway now we're GONNA ask you a little more about this because we do want to get to your actual mvp of the season so far that is not a quarterback and this time you're not to be confused about what the question is. Alvin Kamara, this guy leads the NFL. In, yards from scrimmage and touchdown. He's got three hundred, fifty three yards out of the backfield as a pass catcher. Check this out. He averages more yards receiving a game than tyreek Hill. He's done all without Michael Thomas he's an outstanding playmaker for them. He's as good a pass catching. You know what? He's as good. A wide receiver that we have in the NFL right now that lines up in the backfield blue. y'All quit playing somebody had to say, then we'd not just watch this man destroyed. By himself he did not care that Alex Smith was supposed to have a great return with a W, Aaron Donald Ladies, and Gentlemen. He arguably is the best player in the NFL let alone a non qb MVP the presser today he is a certain people and the way he changes game plans put him sternly in the conversation no question mark he's in conversation which you can't a conversation without having myles Garrett and and five games vk body fifteen tackles solos, the edge as a defensive player. Of a death and his team is one because you had a compensation without, add him to the mix I love guy. So we'll see what ends up being in this conversation but then again, we all know that Dan Roloff, she's going to campaign for a quarterback to win it. All right. Some big news happened yesterday with the jets releasing Levian Bells. He now looking for a new opportunity and certainly will be really interesting to see who picks him up more on that momentarily. But how about this since the start of last season, there have been one hundred and forty different players that have recorded a twenty yard rush bell, not one of them. A hundred and forty guys have done it. He hasn't he's logged two hundred seventy street. Russia's without a twenty yard gain. That's the fifth longest streak over the last ten seasons according to Elias and to be fair the jets handed bell just eighty six outside Russia's the fewest among any back with at least two hundred carries in that spans of could have to do without him gays and that jets offense. Here's what Levy on Bell tweeted after this news came out said got a lot to prove I'm ready to go. So we bring back Adam schefter into this conversation who start their Adam, what's the market look like for Bell at this point? First and foremost floor nobody made a last ditch effort to trade for Levy on bill before the jets officially released him at four o'clock today the last conversations for a trade that the jets had with the Miami Dolphins were with the the Las Vegas Raiders the new, England, Patriots, they had conversations with those teams. The issues nobody was willing to take on levy on builds contract at this time, and so the jets me decision to move on from Levy on bell. Now keep in mind he is scheduled to make this year seven more million dollars, jets Owen that money. So really he's not going to. Get more money from a team. It's a question of where he wants to go to click that money whether their new team pays him one million dollars, two, million dollars whatever it may be. It's counted against the jet seven million dollars. So the expectation is he'd sent a one year deal for the veteran minimum with the team of his choosing where he wants to go where he can be productive where he can win where he can revitalize a career so that he could become a free agent again in the off season of covert this winter when the market for free agents is expected to be A. Bit depressed because the salary cap is going down yeah. No those are all really good points I mean as you're saying it, of course, living on Bella has ties to the steelers wonder about that Dan give us a team that you think though makes a Lotta sense for bell. A guy that we still believe on this show still has something in the tank Timothy buccaneers like if you look at all the really good offenses in the NFL or most of them, they got pass catching backs I've been saying for weeks. The Bucks are missing a pass catching. I'm not talking about a back that can be. A part of your check down and you can throw it to him. That's something four net can do don't tell me Ronald Jones that's not the answer. They need a guy that you can utilize a piece. They've got a standard of expectation right now the cultures in place there are contending playoff football team Tom Brady is that is something that he's notorious to be comfortable with I don't think bring Levy on bells at running back I. Think you bring Levy on bellows a piece I got eleven pieces I'm GonNa use him as a piece one time I'd flex him out ten to twelve times a game. Matchups, and so I think Tampa Bay's a perfect fit. CHICAGO'S GOOD CLEVELAND. Pittsburgh all that. If I'm the bucks I'm making a call, well, you could be the books but I, think he's hitting Vegas. That's just me and no one told me that. But Adam just said that they had some rumblings going on when you think about Jon Gruden, you think about. The offense running backs, he has Jacobs's there. There's no question about it, but you always want to wants not good enough and I go back to win codes gruden hair ricky watters when he's the office coordinator in Philadelphia or look at Charlie Goerner, he had an awfully very similar patient running backs catch the ball out of the backfield point and he likes toys. Coach. GRUDEN wants stick chess there with a nice toy. Never have enough I mean they drafted Henry Rugs. We thought a lot of that was about speed, but he's done even more with him. Great call there. What do you think mark is a destination potentially for Levy on bell and how you think you've fair there. Arizona cardinals, and I think he would farewells listen. They are in a position now where they hadn't got the production that they WANNA get out of Kenyan drake but I don't think that this offense. Heavy run century. So he goes a lot with what they did acquiring Hopkins. What College Murray can do, and now you add lady on bail who continue to spread the feel found one on one match ups and get some production out of the backfield and another thing like I'm not judging Lamy on bail. What just happened in New York. DAMMIT everybody should be trying to get out of. Everybody should be trying to get a tray or be released or the cut. So they can go somewhere else and have success in this league. Because right now, we all know what the jets are. Right? We looking at Sam Darnold right now and people questioning can really play football well, hell we had the same questions about any when he was in Miami and Dan just America, he and the MVP conversation. So we all know what the situation is with the. New York jets lady on bail still got some Jews, left in them and I think he needs to be with a team with other weapons. So he can exploit people the way he did when he was in Pittsburgh with all those whip. Yeah you mentioned Sam Darnold and Sheffi reported earlier he's out this Sunday and that means that we'll see flacco start in his place shefty I want you to answer this question where do you think we'll see bell go. Well I think there's a lot of places you could go. I think he's GonNa WanNa go to a winning franchise I. think that's the important part here a place where he thinks he's got a chance to win some games this year compete for a super bowl thing spent the last two years in New York with the jets and he wants to go win some games here that's something he hasn't done a lot the last two years so I don't know where it will be, but it will be with the team i. believe that has a chance to make a playoff run this season. Yeah it's. Important to clarify as you brought up shefty, this is up to bell. Where does he want to go which considering how his career is gone over these past few years you would think that that's might be kind of fun for him to be able to make that decision. I. Saw Shefty work in the thumbs on the phone there. You've got some news about the Patriots tell us. It's now officially sent earlier that Field Yates reported that Cam Newton was expected back at practice on Thursday and the Patriots officially have. Cam Newton Author Reserve covid nineteen lists, which means he will be at practice tomorrow and he is on track to start Sunday against drew lock and the Denver Broncos grew back at practices. Well, great stuff from everybody here. So many good games to talk about. You could make a case that Aaron Rodgers against the bucks could be one of the Games of the year. We'll see how it ends up playing out but either way this bucks defense preparing for Rogers never an easy task they've been good at times although not as consistent as maybe they would want to be but here's arriens on stopping Rogers. He's playing at a really high level One thing you have to get mess for sure and you can't play scared and knowing that the ball's going up back shoulder throws. He's the best there is. So I, you got cover your guys got to do a great job. I think the more so is the improvisational plays when he gets out of there and that's when he's really as best. I think the way they say it is Aaron Rodgers in his bag this year it seems like he totally is everything's working for him and he's feeling it. So Dan does areas have the right game plan here? Just go after Aaron Rodgers is what he's saying no no, you can't. You're not going to be able to two reasons one, they got best offensive line of Football. This is the best pass protecting offensive line on line. You could blitz all you want it's a bad decision and then to the packers really have become the warriors when it comes to football like everything is either three pointer or. Have, intermediate passing so like no quarterback in the NFL gets the ball out quicker at the line of scrimmage than Rogers. The best way to beat the pressure is to get the ball out quickly at the line of scrimmage. So that would be a terrible decision you gotta understand when you decide to blitz quarterbacks that your secondary has less people in coverage. So Rogers going to do two things he's going to see pressuring okay. Ball's going out to the. Perimeter right now that means you gotta tackle well in space or we're going to take our shots downfield and try to max-protect Tampa Bay buccaneers for as good of a defense they are their secondary is not good enough to do that, and so I think it's more keep the ball in front of tackle really well and space more than let's go after the quarterback because if you do that, this will be a blow out, but it all comes down to. The top bulls and what scheme he puts together from a defense standpoint you take away Davante, Adams whether you double him or you single him up and you double somebody else which you take him out of the game you make Aaron Rodgers. Beat you with other guys take an Jones out bolting run, and in the past game, you put the pressure on him. So when you look at that, they've been able to do that in the past with certain teams. That they played and I believe that Todd Bowles. has recipe to make Aaron Rodgers. Not necessarily look different was somewhat different than what he's looked like over the last several weeks yet Davante Adams did practice on Monday. He's been questionable dealing with an injury but if he comes back, they would finally add that weapon back although it hadn't bothered him marcus what do you think the bucks did lose Vita via to a broken ankle? How significant is that for them? Very Significant Lor listen any quarterback will tell you pressure up the middle of the pocket is their biggest nemesis and Vida was one of the best at pushing the pocket. We're not talking about the big Fella Gidon Saks although he did against the Chicago bears, he gives you an immediate stop from a quarterback step enough. So we can't stress to you how important it is for Shag buried and Jason Pierre Paul and when they bring Devon White Labonte David on blitzes people having to pay attention, and usually he's playing that shade technique as a nose tackle, which is the guy lined up right by the Center They have to double him impasse protection and Vida has usually beaten the double teams enough to put pressure in the pocket. So it's a huge loss for the Tampa Bay buccaneers and I wanna go back to something we've talked about in the pre production mean before the show. Then if I'm hearing correctly as far as the blue I hope that's not what Bruce Aries is talking about as I've thought about this in my wheel star spinning because we were talking about applying pressure with five. What I'm hoping he's talking about is the pass rush generation from the guys that are supposed to rush to pass the SHAG. Pierpont every once in a while bring Labonte David and Debbie White, they are going to need all hands on deck in the secondary to defend against Air Raja's I'm hoping he talking about his pass rushers being able to apply that pressure markets. This makes me think of remember when the Ravens were going to play against the chiefs and you're like you gotta rush for you gotTa rush four and I came back to you and said, but that's GonNa Change who they are like the books are not a rush for football team. They're five guys in the line of scrimmage, our front seven. It's going to be a part of the blitz package. So your point is valid, but that means they have to only become something that they haven't been all year section interesting back with that guy, he knew on nfl live right now this from Rod Democracy are packers reporter saying I don't care if it's nate Peterman or Tom Brady, devante atoms on Rogers versus Brady matchup. So he's talking about the wide receiver angle in all of this let's get Adam schefter back in here, Adam? Some wide receiver questions for both of these teams what is the latest with Davante Adams and Chris Godwin. They both missed the last two games both with hamstring injuries and Davante Adams Laura was back at practice on Monday there was a real feeling he was going to play in the Monday night football game against Atlanta right before the packers by week but the packers doctors and training Steph him out of that game which obviously upset he apologized for tweeting what he did officially ruling himself out he knew he was frustrated because he felt like he was ready to play and it looks like he is on track to play on Sunday against Tom Brady and the buccaneers Adams looks to. Be recovered from a hamstring injury Chris Godwin, returned to work running lightly on the practice field. Tuesday. See if there right now he's also missed the last two games will see how he comes along at the week of practice the packer certainly use him with Gyro Alexander figuring to go up against Mike Evans get anymore production. I have a guy like Chris Kaban who's gotten in some light work already this week apparently, Davante Adams doesn't care who the quarterback on the other side he wants to play as much as possible time for one more thing before we go shefty, go ahead. Phil today they said they're going to name pro bowl players. They're just not going to play a pro bowl. So no pro bowl this year that's out the window gives the lead more flexibility which it certainly craves at this point in time and the super. Bowl that was scheduled to be played in New Orleans in two thousand and twenty four is being pushed back to two thousand and twenty five do Mardi Gras. There's now an opening two thousand, twenty four maybe las. Vegas. Laura. Jenner Jones injury for the cardinals a big deal the cardinals don't have a great defense but it was improving they had some players Patrick, Peterson booder Bak- boot Baker Isaiah Simmons. Now Gender Jones. One of the best passers his knee NFL has gone. This takes a contending team out of the mix. And he has a perfect opportunity to be the next Tanny Hill Ryan Tannehill the Tennessee titans you can cash in buddy you got the opportunity doesn't mean it's going to be the Dallas cowboys, but he could be with thirty one other teams out there just thinking about this woman it for years one, hundred, eighteen, million given a tiny hill. You Got Opportunity put resurgence in that career. Listening every facility and football there's a sign that says exit when you leave in the facility, that's what the jets skill players need to paramount Jamison crowder Sam during the Ale away from Adam Gates in that all bids. If you WANNA see your careers go successfully good luck with that fellows later bell shout out to you man you in a better position now exited hey, guys I got to revisit Dan what is his name Buddha Beta Baker Not Budi, Baker Buddha. GO-TO vacant. Very bizarre. 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Mornings with Keyshawn, LZ & Travis (HR 2)

Mornings with Keyshawn, Jorge & LZ

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Mornings with Keyshawn, LZ & Travis (HR 2)

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Could happen next spring of shootout Chris against could do whatever I wanna put my mind to trust me, you did lose weight for the marquee races. We just heard in that flashback. So you're right. I wish we did you lose for that. Pounds money. Listen, I'm not him. He lost. Twenty still needs to go another sixty. Hey, you know what else these another sixty gentlemen? Angry key is the best six fifty seven. He's sixty one degrees right now. Whittier highest seventy eight today going to warm up. National cognac day and keys. Headline is presented by sprint met one of them. Chris Kaka doodle do Gaca dude. Leuke soda rafters collide Leonard and the big shoe brand Nike. And, or in court over at battle of his logo. So Kawai Leonard has filed a lawsuit against Nike for the claw his logo. He helped design or design himself, and allowed Nike to use it up to twenty eighteen when he switched to new balance, which he's wearing now any wants to be able to utilize that logo. So Nike trying to pull a switcheroo real fast in do the copyrights his back, but it was a little too late. He called him. He's filed suit. So should you be thinking about this doing the championship finals about a logo or should you be concentrating trying to beat the? Warriors. Well, co I seems to me to be a fairly single-minded guy. He doesn't get easily distracted. I mean, by all the other things that we've seen him go through last year, Saturday, entire season, basically, the nonsense surrounding where he's going to play Nike. He seems like he's able to focus on one thing at a time. These local things are interesting when you when you are with a brand shoot company, and you sit down to you sketch out the logo, and you sit down with their guys, you may have your own in at the end of the day, paperwork gets lost in transition, and they claim it, you claim it when you want to use it without them. They say no. But then yet still, it's yours. You own it. Right. It's, it's, it's one of the weirdest things if you remember as we're discussing to why and San Antonio. One of the biggest things that I kept pointing to the fact that his Rettig apparel deal was coming up. Just that is correct. You continue to point to and he wanted to be in a larger market because he felt he should be making. Same amount of money as the top tier guys when it comes to shoe, a pair, so it doesn't surprise me at all that, as he's getting ready to be a free agent that here we are, again, discussing the shoes, discussing the apparel, now, discussing his local Y because that was a factor in him. Not wanting to be in San Antonio. Is this he's agents fault, but it's more about it's more about his personality than it is about anything's any city or anything because if he has a personality, he could play in any city. Or if the creative director behind the marketing is creative enough, they can do campaigns around his non personality, much like we saw Nike. We Penny Hardaway for a while. I mean in in it was successful. So it's not so much that I just think that it's I think it's just that at the end of the day, you don't want people controlling, you know, for sure. And maybe Nike again, like you said about the guys giving money back. He. Owners big corporations, like Nike or not in the business of handing away intellectual property, either. But I would think that when you're going through the process of the logo, or whatever in this, what you pay your agents and your lawyers for to make sure that if and when I leave Nike, I think, with the but but they're doing that. His name is attached to it. Yeah I'm sure he's not the one side. I know but before the in other words, what I'm saying it's the. CBS to go, sue Nike to get his logo back. It should have been written down somewhere when they were negotiated first place. That, that's my logo that if I leave, I'm taking that logo with. Yeah. But if you, but if you have a lawyer, somebody who doesn't catch a word a little simple word it could be. It was win where how in there in that little how changes, everything, little it changed everything? Everything else looks great. It's like, oh yeah, this is cool. This is cool, except that little it that you skipped over. You didn't change his everything changes everything. And then this is situation. You get yourself call there, too. Anybody want a coup why Leonard branded piece of gear? I mean he's just under such an underwhelming personality. Like with the bronze staff, and Katie, and all these guys are James harden, their larger than life inquires just such an under the radar guy guy, but to two keys point, though, penny. Hardaway didn't have a big personality, but the game is what attracted you gain. So even if he may not necessarily be the personality that you want one are argued that he has a personality because if you look at some of his quote, funniest HALE, he's got a Bob. These shoes. He's really you don't want anybody. That's probably true to the bottom of the list. Grown by walking shoes here now. This is fun. That was keys. Headlines day. Listen to ks in Los Angeles back to you. Absolutely. We just signature she, we saw you talking about green song logos and everything. All you weren't here for that. That's right. Oh, he was off again. I mean but I mean he's, he's been in the NFL like since the nineties, I'm just I didn't have to be here last week. Another thing l z milk. What I don't miss that drought. That's what I know. Multiple shoes and actually we relaunched the shoes about three years ago or something like that three or four years ago, we were getting some kicks. I don't doubt got him stacked up in your garage. Locker. Yeah. First of all, you got to come more often work with me to get anything. I will. Sean McVeigh was talking yesterday at Rams, ta the subject of Todd girlies participation or lack thereof, of course was brought up again. And now we've discovered the Todd Gurley is going to try to play about seven or eight pounds lighter than he has the last few seasons. Here's Sean McVay talking about Todd Gurley and trying to cut some weight. Yeah. You know, I mean lighter weight, I you know, we haven't gotten into this. So I think the biggest thing was getting him to where he's feeling good. He's ready to go as far as you know, give and take care. He's always been a guy that has a great command on his, his body weight and takes really good care of himself. So I think the most important thing to say that you wanna put a finite wait on him. I want him to feel most comfortable, and that's the most important thing, what he feels like he can function at be the all purpose back that he's been. And that's that's that's where we're at. So he says, I'd rather play five ten pounds later and he's gonna feel better about that than that's exactly that we'll do. And I think he's earned the right to be able to tell us how he's feeling you know, with a give and take. And as long as he's got a y which I know he does then, you know, we're always receptive to those things should never be able to tell you what you should play it as far as weight. Never. They should never be able to always you doing your job. And you get in you doing it. That's the craziest thing you know, like a player, they ask you how do you feel? I think I'm seventy percent. What seventy percent like what does that mean? Oh, I'm sixty five percents. I'll be back. I think I think I'm ninety percent sure to like, no. In a coach shouldn't tell you what you're playing weight, should be a coach until you, you need to lose weight. No. What if you're doing your job in this officiant in, you feel good about the way you perform at an all time high? Then that's fine. You that's not up to coach McVeigh to decide on what Todd Gurley should be. I don't think that he pulled him into his office a Todd. I think you should be ten pounds lighter. It sounds to me like girly into people around him as trainers, the staff, everybody. They're trying to find a way to make him pain free. And if they think they may be taking a little bit of weight off might help him be a little bit more. Usable. May be the case. Maybe he will feel like his legs or lighter. He can now powered through with his knees lifted a lot higher. All in all sorts of things that may be true. But when you hear coaches say, you know, if he's a little bit lighter fees little bit. Heavier he consorted you know, he'll, he'll be better for this better for that. That's not necessarily true all the time everything we hear athletes, talk and coaches about an athlete's weight all the time. Mean when when Lonzo ball has gone to league, everybody mama say need to put on weight? Get stronger, and there their contracts that have weights relations to them, because you allow them to put that in there because you're fat boys too much three hundred clearly not feel good. You're not playing. You're not playing at the level when you Tippin the scale at a higher. You know what I'm saying? Like you're not playing at an all pro level. You're not playing at an all NBA level. When you're that heavy, so naturally one can look at you say, will he sure looks like he's this drops the way this issue because girlies out of shape. This is a weight issue because Todd Gurley trying to feel better, specifically with his knees. I think that's the most troubling running back agree bay. Lacey lacey. But you can look at Eddie lacy entail that he was hanging out with Chris a lot. And here's what happened. Guy here sprint people's hotline. And Steve Steve, you're on the morning show. What's up? Good morning. I'd wanted to ask you guys mainly keep whether Todd Gurley plays it to fifteen or two five eight my lose some of that power. But if his knees are shot, and he has the more ligament. It's not gonna matter anyways 'cause unfortunately you won't be able to, to play football anymore. I'd rather have Todd Gurley on my team healthy Todd Gurley than anyone else which should the ram started looking in another direction. I know they drafted somebody in the third round, but should they keep their I out and free agents? They need another running back case sums up. Girly only only if they get to training camp in it starts to look a little bleak in the summer with the young guys that they took out a Memphis and some of the other guys that they have on the roster if it, if it changes in, they look at it, and they say, well, you know what we don't like the way things are going with these other guys. Let's take a look and see what's out there that we can grab we still like girly. We still think it September he'll be fine. But we. You need a more of a bet. We need a better insurance policy, who's available look. They a couple of things here. Look to the moves that the Rams made this in was their third round pick, but it was the Rams I Beck, and they spend it on a running back. Okay. So the first player than they decided they're going to take a player. They took a running back. They also resigned, Malcolm Brown this offseason, who is Todd girlies never went back up until he got hurt. And then they had to go get C J Anderson, all of the signs are indicated that they're preparing to do exactly what Steve said they're not saying it, they're not saying that Todd Gurley is, is out with this, ligament or this cartilage or this injury or whatever, no-one said, exactly what this is we all -ssume that it's the knee everything. The Rams have done are telling you that they're taking this very, very seriously. What they're saying is what you've been saying. They're going to say all along key, which is we're fine. We're not missing any football. It's fine. We didn't use the game plan this put everything they've done screams. They're getting ready to have something other than Todd Gurley carry that ball. And it's I think part of the reason why. Why is so perplexing? Because almost like the Lakers. No one's coming out and saying what it is. Right. So because of the vacuum, we're all over the place. Tagro may actually be fine. All right. All right. Talked early may not be as bad as house matters. What's better for me? But because the vacuum is there. We're thinking the worst case scenario if he if he was healthy he'd be out there running around with his teammates. He's not healthy. I mean it's is clear. He just not. He's not he's not healthy right now. And you don't wanna put him out there in harm's way. You want him to certainly get healthy. Get out there and September. I don't need him for training camp. I just need him to do football acclimated things too. So when he does step on the field he is short. Now, mental reps is important watching film study is important. He can see the other players at his position doing the same things that he would do may not be tug really issue. But they still might up in the same spots. They still run the football. They still do all of those sorts of things. He can watch game film, take mental reps, and learn from that I loved this movie is a good movie is one of those, I can just watch kind of over over back in the day, when I was younger thirty one years ago. Big came out. Tom Hanks directed by the great penny Marlow. I don't remember big where he got a thirteen year old boy, got changed into a man and went to work and into the life is in the yes. No. I don't remember har- are. Yeah. That a lady friend, and experienced lives of adult and there's good movie. No wonder is like that. I think this is the first film to grows one hundred million dollars direct about female director. That's specific knowledge and God, blessed it, pinning. Yeah. She she made good mid that moves. Good leader owns a great movie. By the way, gross Elsie that one. Dino. His historic. That look funny. I just trying to remember history. So the Lakers had a two year plan that's going to culminate in a month that the two year plan that magic was talking about. Hey, give me two years. A two year opportunity. This is your one we're going to do LeBron. And we're gonna go don't forget to you're still years, two years. He said it when key when you had your one on one conversation with them, several months back, he said, look, we're back now we're going to be back back back back back in two years. Well, that two years is basically up in a month when free agency opens. And you wonder if they've hit the reset button because of all the changes that they've gone through they've got a new head coach. They've got they've got what's the best word turmoil in the front office, or at least they had they had turmoil in the front office. Magic quits abruptly stepped down. There's a whole bunch of things that are just a mess in the lake is the reset button hidden. In other words, is it not a two year plan, we're basically starting from scratch, but the scratches a better spot because you have LeBron James, you have some young players, but. This isn't a you have to get everything done right now. Because this is the end of the two year window that you put on yourself two years. I think you do still have to get it done. Because one caveat all of this is the Ron James, and if, if you don't take care of business, then you certainly put yourself wasted another two to three years. If you don't acquire somebody pair with the Braun to get to the autumn goal, which was get to a championship when you first sign a Brown two years ago, you can't all of a sudden say, well, we got the Brown with panel. Bunch of money. Doesn't matter what us your signed players. We'll get there for years when a brand decides wanna play basketball anymore. That's too late. You wanna go out and you want to be active. That's why you cleared up to them. That's the scary part, the Lakers go out and they can pitch and they can sell they can recruit and do everything they want, but short of Anthony Davis who's available via trade. The rest of these guys are free agents. They can decide to go where they want the Lakers. Could do everything exactly the way that they want to strike out. Yeah. Which is why is good. When you. Look at that franchise, you all the fees they can't control you can't control who's gonna sign with you. You can't control who you can trade for because you need a partner, that's going to be willing to, to be trading to be willing to participate in the trade, but you can decide who you're going to draft and you can decide who you're going to keep, and you can decide how you groom what you have in your own covers. And if you ask the question earlier about worst case scenario, I think the real worst case scenario is that Lonzo never becomes what we thought he would be. I think the real worst case scenario is that, you know, Brandon Ingram his second half of the season was just a fluke, and he's not what that was the Cowboys never becomes better because you can't control other things because you neither willing partner or you, you need the guy to wanna sign. But if what you have your cupboard doesn't become what you bet. Everything on that he would be that. That to me would be as disappointing as anything didn't the calculus and all that change, though. I mean, the second you sign the brawn James who was coming into a sixteenth season in his first year as a Laker now we're going into his seventeen season. He's still on the shortlist best players in the league, but the clock's ticking, and it's taking more loudly than it ever has one just because it's another year and two it's the first time in his career he ever really got hurt. These had little blimps and bruises here and there and Mr. game, he'd never missed extended time ever until this most season and usually once that stuff starts to happen. It continues to happen, especially if you're an older athlete. And now a sudden because to your point if you compla- the development game great in the clearly were along that path. But then when the bronze shows up it changed now. Now, everything's accelerated, you don't have time to maybe let it breathe a little bit more the way that you did because of his presence, and if you with this summer, I don't care what anybody LeBron's going to be looking at those guys sideways like. Thing is that they're not gonna whiffed though. That's the difference. There's only three guys that you're going after this major. Right. There's northern really right? No. 'cause you you'll try to make a play for clay. You'll try to, but I know but you'll you'll still try to make a play Klay. Spank of make a play for by Kawai for sure. And then the third guy that third guy is Jimmy Butler, and then the AD trade scenario, so you already know Klay gonna stay in Oakland. So you take him out. Right. Right. Then Koiwa surreal, they gotta show is real. And then I'm I'm Jimmy Butler probably do, what those other guys do though. Jimmy, why AD look you get that. We're having a different conversation. AD is not a free in terms of free agents. It's K D And his cO, why and after Barrett. Your, your tier two already Katie Stanton, Oakland. That's why I don't even mentioned. But, you know, for the sake of conversation turns a free agents, those only. Top tier guys after that you're already in tier two as you're as great as Craig Thomson is he's not all NBA this year. I mean it's weird but he's not right. So I mean let's be let's keep it one hundred. And Jimmy Butler to me is not as great as a shooter as Klay Thompson, but he's every bit as good as a scorer as Klay Thompson, and he's a pretty good defendant play defensive player as well. So if we ended up with him, I'm straight to me. That's a good backward, monzo, and Jimmy Butler to me is it's a straight back core. You talk a little bit of Brian. You throw in a little bit of Brandon Ingram. You figure out what you're going do in the middle. And we rolling if one of those top line guys in including Jimmy Butler, you get them then we're, we're, we're right. Because all of a sudden we got to really good players. If just one of the other guys can start to elevate whether it's Ingram ERC or coups VAR ball, or whoever now suddenly got three and Ingram, who the other two guys, maybe don't just of stay where they are. Still not bad players. You've got a team at that point. My fear is not if they get one of their guys. Where are they think they put themselves in a really good? -sition my fears that everything that we've been talking about for what a month now has poisoned, the well to the point where we says, you know, what could go either way. I just these guys seem like they know what they're doing over here. I'm going to go here those guys over there. I don't know if that, that guy's gonna be there a year from now. I don't know if she's going to be there a year for just you know what I'm gonna skip it. I'm gonna go over here. That's what I wear, they get nothing done, and then they get desperate, and they pick up the phone call. Chris Paul and say, hey, let's figure something out today. Obviously getting desperate. I'll ready because apparently according to TMZ they picked up phone and Kobe Bryant has been recruiting. Continuously recruiting Kyrie Irving joined the team. He according to last Stevenson, he's been a part of the Lakers practices multiple times and arriving. But Kobe Bryant refutes that by saying that his not sense that he was not at practice. He was not coaching them up. But land, Stephen says the total opposite. Let's put a fine point on this. Kobe couldn't recruit anybody to come to the Lakers when he was a member of a member of note that was being a member. I'm not a member now. I'm not implying on the field on the courts. You don't have to worry about me. You don't have to worry about me on the court. I need you come to Lakers, because you would be great, if you came, Laker, you would it would change everything. So recruiting is different than playing recruiting. I don't like you because I don't wanna play with you, but I like you because you Kobe Bryant there's a difference now I don't wanna play with you. But I like you hopefully his perch as a recruiter is different than pitches. Teammate space, cly come here, if you want, but if you're not. About this, then you're not about this, in your, you know what? That's not a great recruiting pitch as a teammate, hopefully it's a little, it's a little bit of a softer touch as an executive or as a concert consultant or whatever. It's K come to LA. If you come here, fine. But if you don't you're huge whip or maybe when Kobe on that, maybe just calling up in San look a note media reports are saying, but trust. I'm helping out is not as bad as everyone say, you know, the terms of recruiting it could be people calling him up and say, hey man, what's going on? What's going on? He just saying, you know, don't listen to, you know how everything sound crazy the media. I'm talking to her or blow, blah. It's not that bad. We'll we all know Kobe Bryant is definitely talking to talking to her. He's also controlling rob Pelinka. Chris doing Ben? Chris. Those ease up out of his chair keys chair dancing. Departs bar here. For us. Yeah. Yeah. That rhythm nice stuff. That's that's less labar soul train liberal. I didn't know that the music was so specifically for you or for me or for or always a time when an artist decides okay, it's time to make some money. You guys should buy more records. He's saying. But when he was when he was doing like the funk who, you know, he was a star. He said, you know, wannabes. Here's the thing bars. He needed a lot of money. You know what I mean? He was spending a lot. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. Feel happens. Deal prices went up on stuff. But you but I mean, full disclosure. I mean. We going to do. Because over here playing speed metal damn you've got a mortgage thing. I mean. Metallica's for me. You always knowing it really need money when they start doing duets rapper. Covering. Exactly. All right. Roger Goodell was at a Jim Kelly's golf tournament yesterday. One of the topics was the preseason and whether or not they really need for preseason games. Here's Roger Goodell yesterday. I've been pretty strong on our preseason. I you know, I think things have all over the years. I'm not sure you know talking coaches had four preseason games as necessary anymore to to get ready for a season to evaluate players develop players. There are other ways of doing that. And we've had a lot of discussions about that. And, you know, I feel like what we should be doing always the highest ball, and I'm not sure preseason games level. No, they're not. They're, they're bad football games. They're bad football games played with guys at probably are not gonna play in the NFL for the most part, there guys that are filling out training camp rosters. But Roger Goodell is not giving back preseason games just because the quality of play isn't good. There's going to be a. Hey, we'll give you a couple of these back, but we're going to need something coming the other way and the other way is probably more real games. Because the owners you can say what you want the games are. Allows the people go people buy the tickets is a season ticket holder. You're you have to buy those games. They're the calcium's none empty for the preseason games. There's forty fifty thousand people there. Why would I give that up for nothing but are not going to give it up for nothing? I think at the end of the day is just gonna turn up preseason turn out, just like the Pro Bowl where it's all touch football, if they continue. So Roger deals, clearly looking at this and saying, we don't want the football point of preseason against so diluted that it becomes so p players. Become so disinterested that it becomes flag football out there because there's fifty three men on each roster in out of the fifty three you know about forty of them by forty or so. No, I'm good. I'm gone. My I'm good. I ain't gonna win that's born that sometimes more than ever not giving forty. He kinda know that I'm good. And you still got the rest of these thirteen or so guys that are up in the air. You know, don't really know. What the next steps are. So they're going to be a big one hundred miles an hour. The other forty just chilling lay back all the players from the Rams. They didn't have to play pres, damn team team was done. Now when you move forward to the regular season minus the two preseason games. Yes, they're going to try to add two more regular season games, fine Adam, pay me. But you're going to pay me for each one of those games are playing. Okay. It's far game salary breaks down at a million dollars a game you're gonna give me extra two million. I just think it's a bad business model which extending the regular season extent anymore extension period. What made the NFL two different. What's the difference between for regular? I mean four preseason a six sixteen regular season. Here's the difference. The NFL was wasn't special because of the athleticism, or the athletes, or the teams or the championships. He was special because it was rare scarce. He was scarce. Yes. And the more you become assessable the more than I can see. You the less, I want to see you absence makes the. See, I think football's different though. I think for wells different. I, I don't know. I think that the scarcity is a big part of it. I think that, that the fact that this every game in the NFL season, matters it matters, whether it's week seven or week twelve it's really important. We joke all the time. Seventeen hundred seventeen and eighteen key. We saw and this isn't a perfect example, but it's the most recent one, the Rams of locked that division early already. They're playing a couple of games in a sixteen game schedule that don't matter. Now of a sudden you're having them play weeks. Fifteen sixteen seventeen eighteen they got the season on ice. Yeah. They're putting a month's worth of product out there. That's non-competitive. But it just moving your bad football from the beginning to the an ANC you. Yeah. But, but that we seventeen and eighteen they won't be able to clinch and week, fourteen they won't be they're going to have to play too weak and get it. It's gonna give close it out. I get it. There's there's gonna be some teams that give you a couple more weeks to try to get back into we're gonna see the opposite to. We're going to see a bunch of divisions that do get locked up and you still got a week or two left, and you're gonna get bad football by favorite sport. But I love it because of the event as well getting together with friends Keyshawn. And I coming in just looking like we just had a Saturday night on on blaming you. Have you have those Michael Jordan is every Monday? Yes, sir. But by the end of the season Travis week sixteenth. I'm like, okay, I'm calm ready for playoffs. You know, like I'd love it, but it's it's a bit long and I'm okay towards indices. You make any long it's not going to be as important fee to make that week five game to go. See the copy. What is it about the middle of February when we all kind of look each other in the NBA playoffs here, yet, another two months to go baseball, you hit the fourth of July? You're like all right, we're, we're good here. Right. Remember, you got another months ago? Football's greatest sport in this country. Yes. Okay. Thank changes what it used to be, you know, once upon a time they only played eight games in regular season. Once upon a time they only play ten games. Tiny, only played twelve games season. So just slowdown little cowboy. All right things too much of a thing, oversaturation, okay? Win have been oversaturated one hundred years. Damn. You go. You know what everybody is going to talk about? When you add games to real football games, you're gonna talk about player safety and we can't put the guys through it. You're gonna get more bad games. And the what you said is exactly right. As long as you're paying guys, don't say anything about those safety. They'll lineup to play game after game after game being. Yeah. Mon mak-. Happy birthday. Jamaica, right. Or, or Marley or something. No. Just because just because in Jamaica multiple times. God, love, you must be are the kill gay people there. Oh, so. No. So now. Okay. That's good reason. Yeah. We don't want, we want you to stay here. Yeah. Yeah. Montego Bay torito's all that whole Jamaica next week. Yep. Yeah. Nice on you so shack. Yeah. It's different for us. They're gonna check your pocket. Yeah. Let me see what you got by. Where'd you got boy? Shouting, money, shaggy our social media guy who's shooting stuff right now. You can watch his live is already angling. Hey, chris. You need some help you and Hori need help next week. You know, maybe I could pop on here and they're like settle down shaggy. No, just because he's got extra in the others, say, boy, see I like Jamaican food. I mean just it's just for me. It's good. You know, like I hope Raj makes it back. That's all I'm saying. I think he will have been here before we ways not coming back this his own fall. What's your point? Worried about getting snatched about taking himself out accidentally damn it. L C. Stop ten gentlemen, as you know, I have multiple jobs. And one of them is working for dissolve. Yes. And I have great pleasure of being ringside to see the great of set have enough to spur guarding, where Anthony jobs got the living. Snot beaten out of him. We didn't see, but that's okay. There's quite a right. You watching the fighters. Anyway. Part of the reason why was a great upset was because that's just say Mr Lewis junior, didn't necessarily like most athletic individual to walk into a rain. No, no. But it's not the first time in which we have seen a gentleman walk into his sport of choice and not necessarily looked the part Travis. But this is my. Content. Top ten list of shall we say male athletes? They didn't necessarily look the part. Yes, I don't wanna call them fat because we decided it's not a good word. Yeah, that's abusive abusive. But top in fat people. Is that what we're doing coming to number ten? Orlando pace always big dude basin. Bake do, but pace wasn't fat like that. Pace is big was he six eight. Yeah. Big pacey was straightening, what happens when he landed on you? It be calling. But he was that was the Knicks fan k. Pace wouldn't sloppy. That's no. He was sloppy. You could be big enough. Be sloppy. Paces. And you know, it number nine number nine the fielders hoop. Both of them elective choice. Great, basically, the same Sessa was in better shape than prince Princess prices low. Strong with prince was attaches. Yeah. He got out of shape when he first came into the majors. He was cool. He was just big like is dead. Yeah. And then all of a sudden he started eating lobster, and everything and g-get. Anyway. He's the only guy that went vegan and put on forty pounds anyway. Just with him. Help not just to let you a lot of. Number eight butterbean you gotta have butter. Mike Tyson took him out right type. No, no. You Peter McNeil the other fat. Would you like these four or six round fights, right? Yes, yes, that's exactly the ones like four hundred plus pounds. Big dude big do number as being a big dudes. Oh, number seven rather Marcellus Wiley. God bless the did no more services in, in defensive Marceau's. He just was sorry. You had. In the of. List. We are talking about post playing career as well. Pretty good shape now. Got to get kicked going. Listen to we love you. And if you're not, let's do walking tours. Because he was too heavy big dude walking into it could happen. Anybody if you don't wanna walk and catch the bus that gave their thrown banners. He's next. That he was showing he was heavy Notre Dame. He's been heavy his whole career, but it wasn't that couldn't move. It wasn't that the bus was heavy at Notre Dame. He was different than the backs that you had seen prior to him. He was pudgy, and he was little stocky. But he wasn't light. Two hundred ninety pounds wasn't but he's looks like if you waters. No, Ricky Watters, the different but bust name feet man go, he could move it, but he feet up above. He acts was really, really good bowler. And he said he was like Frenchtown when he bought. True story took me and my first club. Good night. Now, come on, man. The greyhound. No, I'm talking about as a would. So I was in at SC. He was with the Rams. And I just got an SE and connections. And all that. So he took my first Hollywood joint, like real Hollywood area. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Was straight. Got it done. I don't doubt it next. See. Sobat thea. Oh, yeah. We'll see stands for cream cheese. I was gonna make a big. No, no, no. We're not making fat jokes, which just pointing out guys who they're with the park here at cake care. The c- still could deliver know this. But this is the point on always like he can still about the basically had one bad year in his entire career is the one year. He cut a bunch of weight. Man. He. Put way back on was fine. He was fine our next up George Foreman. Oh, yeah. Gotta have. Now, you know what's interesting is that there's like three different versions of George Foreman. There was the one who is actually in state Aline. Relax him too much. He's being me means or for me. And then lovable big George Foreman show the grill. I don't know which from his out there now probably the second one I there's a room in this out there that grill actually was supposed to be ho you and HOGAN, did pick up the phone and you could Google in didn't pick up the phone, and whoever invented the grill reached out the George Foreman. The rest was history didn't him. They sold like fifty billion of those. Pick up the phone and call him multiple times, and you just pick up the guy who's gonna get George. Let's move on. We got to try to get this thing put out there. Oops. Loops. He's gonna voicemail coming up next is John Bailey. Oh, you're sport. Chris John, John Daly, giant daisy, John Daly, the golfer, go from one John with the bull cut the blonde bull cut super super super heavy one likes to likes to gamble drink like she get married, divorced. Have to get my golf mine together just thirty at this cocaine. So, you know, even even sport where you don't have a bunch of guys that look like high level athletes. John Daly stood out for all the other reasons. John Daly, did you think we were talking about key? I'm curious. Because you look so loss. I wasn't that I had, I'm not a big golfer. So I don't know every single golfer, so it had registered to me. Oh, okay. Took a minute. Okay. Gotcha. Gotcha. Gwen. Oh, yeah. Tony Gwynn with soft. Yeah. He was he was hell he had a little bit of a especially later in his career. He was carrying around fifty extra pounds. Yeah. Still fifty. Cable. At the mall. He was slapping at what you forget at the beginning. Tony Gwynn score air. He was based dealer like he was a guy that would would get a hit and then he'd be on second or third base. He could really run. And then towards the end he was doing less of that. And then number one, I couldn't decide to go Keyshawn on you get a tie. Okay. Shaquille, O'Neal any other brother, Babe Ruth. I couldn't decide which career splint when every pitcher, I've seen the baby looked like that his whole career was shocked was a thin Jim at Orlando, and he, I got the Lakers. In all of a sudden he started to, you know, put on a few shifts. Diesel he go up. He would go up and down when he got the Lakers, he was a specimen. I mean he. And then that was kind of you never really saw that version of shack ever again. Right. And I guess that's about Kobe got so upset, I guess who was bigger him Stanley Roberts stand. He's Staley Roberts was fatter shack shack was bigger than Stanley Roberts. Yes, daily Roberts eighty knows drank himself out. Okay. He played a golf with John. He probably did play golf. Both of them anchors Jackson's on the same squad in college, and they couldn't win. Yeah. Will what was the coach Brown Brown, and they had a good coach too. Something was missing. Yeah. That the diesel. Well, I mean, what you say he still wanted much championships. He still big in large in charge today.

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Dan Patrick Show - Hour 2 - Chris Long (05-22-19)

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Dan Patrick Show - Hour 2 - Chris Long (05-22-19)

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We'll talk to the former defensive end strange saying that since we interviewed him a week before the NFL draft when he was going to be selected. I believe eleven years ago, Chris long, formerly of the patriots in the eagles won a couple of Super Bowls. He'll join us coming up Cody Bellinger, the dodgers will join us in the final hour of the program. The raptors of they've even the series raptors one games three and four to even their series. Second time this season, the bucks had lost back to back games. And they are an NBA best twenty two and two in games following a loss including the playoffs but back to back losses and now the series shifting to a best of three back to Milwaukee and this. Was all about the raptors bench know the raptors do have a deep team. They just haven't shown up Kyle Lowry, probably reinventing himself, redefining who he is. And he's come up big here in the last couple of games. But they need it. And you got talent there Ceac is a really wonderful player. Gusau is a veteran in their surgery. Baca benfleet. You have some players. Now. You may go those guys aren't you know household names. No, they're not. But, you know, the sum of its parts, Toronto can be a really good team. A great team at times quite hasn't played great. And they done a great job. And shutting down the Greek freak, I don't expect this to happen when they go back to Milwaukee, but they've done some real damage to the Greek freak here, and they've said to Milwaukee's role-players. Let's see what you can do. And they haven't stepped up these last two games, so series tied at two games apiece. If you're Golden State who do you wanna play it kind of feels like these teams are the same? Now you got Yoenis. And you got Kawai and. I know that they play different positions, but you have to really, really talented guys who stand out above everybody else on the team. Nobody's even close to them. But if I'm trying to shut down coli or I'm trying to shut down the Greek freak if you just start there. I guess golden Golden State's great defensive team. But Milwaukee's been a really good defensive team. So you know, you're trying to shut down these star players. And can you do that can drain on green interrupt? The Greek freak can you confuse? Can he confound can he get into his head? That would be the first question I'd have if the warriors were going to approach it that way. Now, I think the warriors are looking at Toronto's doing, and you're doubling the Greek freak every possible second, you can't every time you can you Dublin, and then you force somebody else to beat you. That would be my logic. Now you might be saying it's not gonna matter and it may not. But, you know, I got three hours to fill and I figured that I'd spend ten minutes on this, and then we would work on other things to fill the time up with. But if I'm Golden State, and you're going to face the Greek freak that would be my approaches. Draymond, you can't single cover him. But if you double. Him and had that help defense, then in it depends on who's back for the warriors is eagle dollar going to be back does boogie cousins, make an appearance here is Durant back because that'll change things too, as far as rotations go. Yeah. Mclovin. Part of me feels like Janas can hit a bunch of twos. But the warriors discount with threes and win the war that way anyway. Yeah. I mean it, it, it may not matter. It may not. And then with Toronto. I. Quiet is going to get his points. Quiet quiet do is damage. I just don't know if you can go I can count on Kyle Lowry Ceac him surge Bach event fleet. If I can do that in a seven game series. And I can't count on that if you get it, then you might make the series interesting. But it may not matter with Golden State. Speaking of Golden State, Andrea Gudauta had something to say about his teammates stuff, Kurt did I hear it, right? Where he says Steph is the second best point guard or the second best player of all time. Mclovin. Now, I believe the guy who got the quote was warriors reporter Marcus Thompson, and he clarified that its second best point guard, because a lot of people he said, Dawson, second best ever the other day. And now Thompson claims that was going back to a conversation. They had about point guards magic being one curry being to coordinate. All Okacha marks Thompson said, okay? Yeah. Why in any way, would you quantify Steph curry, a point guard when is he ever been verse guy just because he's not? Tall does not mean he's a point guard. Right. He note in today's world that point guard designation doesn't work anymore. It's there's very few point guard. You know, Chris Paul was, you know a pass first guy he was a true point guard felt like but you know, in today's definition, like the true point guard Stockton was more of the true point guard, Steve Nash was not necessarily that because they wanted him to be more offensive minded. In fact, his coaches said they had to tell him that yell at him to shoot more. But the point guard position changed it might have been Tim Hardaway where it felt like it was a score first, and then pass, you know is AO was a great floor leader. He was both. He can give you whatever you needed there, but Iverson was a point guard, but had no interest in passing. But we, you know, we had these designations, you know you had a one and a two. Back court, your point guard shooting guard, you know, three year and four and then you had your big guy, then I mean that changed. It's completely different. And I wouldn't put Steph curry in a box and say, you're a point guard. Magic was a point guard in his aero. Steph curry is not a point guard. He's a point guard. That's what he gets. He gets points. Yes, mclovin. But you said something earlier that colline Janas don't play the same position. And I was just thinking. I don't know what position either of those guys play after besides Borka saw. I dunno position anybody is anymore. You know what? What are these guys? You have it more Casaus. Not your true center. Yeah. He plays out on the perimeter. That's true. The centres play out like brook Lopez. They forty feet from the basket. So the slashers can come in, like it's rare when you see somebody on the low post setting up for the low post in, like, hey, gimme gimme the ball in the low post because you watch a game everybody's on the perimeter. It's like nobody's allowed to go inside. So what is your honest? What position? What does he closest to whatever he wants to be really? That's what it is or LeBron. What is he whatever he wants to be? Yeah. I, I would probably look at him as a more of a point forward, but Pippen was one of the first point forwards. I think we had that the, the offense would go through, you know Pippen, he would bring the ball up during a when they were pressed. But you know it went through him. I'd be curious what magic would be like now today's game where you have to have that three point shot. His ability, though to beat you off the dribble. His great passing. He, he developed a three point shot. He wasn't a jump shooter. He was his set shooter but I wonder what magic would be like now. What Isaiah would be like now because it feels like you have to be taken that three and I wonder how much more dangerous bird would be with the three point shot where you would say to bird, we need eight to ten threes game you know, we need you to be shooting. Eight two three eight to ten three pointers, and then he could also post you up when a bird would be even better in today's game. Magic might be even better Jordan. Jordan would be better in today's game too. I believe that he would develop the three point shot. Kobe would be even better because I can't put my hands on you and you still have the possibility. I'm going to drive to the hoop on you and just think about some of the great players of all time if you factor that there's nobody who's rim. Protecting me. It's rare. And if you give them the opportunity, I can beat you from the outside, or I can drive past to Jordan was unbelievable with that mid range jumper as well. But I'd be curious with some of the greats would do in today's air. And you know, I guess if you look at today's players, and what would James harden be like in the eighties. Nineties, he get the hell beat out of it. He would and it would be part of basketball and they couldn't protect him because they weren't protecting their stars like they do now. Steph curry Steph curry would be getting roughed up too, because that's what they did back then. And that's not factored in, when we talk about all the greats of the game, the way basketball was played when it was really, really physical nowadays. You know, this is badminton. Know it really is that it's like you get to float around. Hey, this great tennis little forehand back in winter. It's it, it was, it was Greco Roman wrestling back in the eighties nineties. Yeah. Mclovin, Draymond would've loved it back that, right? Probably there's certain players who would who would love it. You know, Anthony Mason was just a tough guy. You know, he he was sort of like Draymond. I mean, he was tough guy, not as not as versatile because Draymond can shoot the three. And by the way, Draymond on has played wonderfully in on people said, oh, you, you don't like Draymond. I don't like his personality would I want him on my team? Yes. But I don't like watching guys who wine all the time. And that's all you would get to be like enough just play. Macleod's tell you don't like today's NBA at all. Is there one foul that any players accepted in the last three years, I would love to have one of these guys raise their hand because when we were in high school, you know, old days you got foul called. You're like a foul number twenty four. I'd raise my, whether I found the guy or not raise your hand and not like a bench player who's in there with the stars like that guy always puts that right away. Jimmy Lipper off the bench. The nine guy to me. I got that one, not live around. That was me. That's the bucks. Average thirty eight threes attempted per game this season. That's second in the league, which is probably surprising. Some folks here the warriors averaged thirty four threes per game eighth in the league. They're the ones who reinvented basketball with this new style, and it's a copycat league, you know, the warriors percentage is a little bit better. It's almost thirty nine percent. The bucks at thirty five percent. That's the difference. The warriors shoot a lot of threes. But they make a lot more threes than you do. And that's where I go back to Steph curry. How many players can you say change to sport? Down through history that they changed a sport. Steph curry changed a sport. Any changed it for the entire world. When you think about that who was head that impact because not everybody can jump like Jordan. They think they can but they can't not everybody can shoot threes. But every kid out there in America feels like he could be Steph curry everyone, I got a handle, and I can shoot from three Steph curry changed the entire sport. And how many players have done. Right. That's like everybody can shoot three's, not everybody hits them at the rain does. But when you're out there, you're like all right. Got just it's fifty fifty hit this glove. Either magic or Jordan that tall. Guys could be guards Jordan was six six. And then he sort of obliterated any idea, but it doesn't change the game. You, you change the game by allowing others to dream what you're doing right. But then after Jordan nobody wanted to play inside ever again. Like chain. I mean it it started the move outside ended, incur, I feel like Jordan it a little bit, too. Like there was nobody wanted to be a six seven low post forward after Jordan dribble the ball. Well, but Jordan was a guard, but he was six six. He couldn't to guard at North Carolina. Right. But he could have been a forward. I feel like Jordan like Larry Bird was a forward. Burge was six nine. I feel like I remember when I was coming up people are like we want to be like, Jordan. Jordan, didn't go to the low post until later in his career as a primitive guy all the centers, we played with all sorted. Dribbling and pretending to be Jordan. None of them wanted to be Novitsky. Help change the game as well. Because you had a seven footer who was shooting from the perimeter and you allowed it and you thought it was a good shot. I mean, there's certain unicorns here. I mean porzingas let's see what happens when he's all said and done. Kevin Garnett was unique. But you know he wasn't the impact guy that Dirk was. Yeah. You had Bill lamb beer could shoot outside, but it wasn't anything. Like Dirk Jack sigma. Remember he was. Yeah, but he was those guys were inside their eighteen feet. You know, they, they weren't shooting threes, but Dirk change the fact that you had a seven footer on the perimeter and you go. That's a good shot brook, Lopez has reinvented himself because he shoots threes. And that's, that's a complete change from what it used to be. He didn't shoot threes and he was an average big man who was on his way out of the league. And he developed a three point shot. And he's, you know, Vince Carter became a three point shooter, you get in trouble. When you go to the hoop. It used to be when you went to the hoop, you might get the, the hoop you were going to get found were going to get hit there. But I do think Steph curry, is there anybody else in another sport that you think of who, who rivals what Steph curry has done for basketball, amick love? Let's not even close because people can be like separate, but everyone says Lawrence Taylor change football like the schematics football. That's like a cliche about football. Yeah. And I I'll, I'll give you that it's different because there's no he's a unicorn like you said, like there's nobody can be Lawrence Taylor. I think that we allowed the linebacker to go free whenever he wanted to. And then you started to have these, it felt like every team wanted to have a Lawrence Taylor. Right. And then the offense countered with all sorts of things too. That's what the blindsides about the left tackle became a big deal. Bill. Walsh change. Yeah. Lawrence Taylor made some left tackles a lot of money. A lot of money who else would be on there. I thought, Dan Marino was going to change the quarterbacking position with his ability because he was doing what everybody's doing now. He was doing in nineteen Eighty-four, and he threw forty eight touchdowns in nineteen Eighty-four, which would be like throwing sixty now because they manhandled, your wide receivers Marino was the quick release. Shotgun. Everything you see. Now he was doing it twenty five years ago. Yeah. Mclovin. How about a Tiger Woods? I this is a question, hitting long or something. I dunno. Some did he yes, he did tiger would be front and center because everybody now, he the these are the golfers see created. I mean, Brooks Kapka. He created these guys who are coming up the conditioning. You can you can be jacked. It's about hitting it as far as you can. And then sort of cleaning up after that, but yeah, tiger definitely changed his sport anybody in tennis who changed their sport. I mean, Serena's about power, but really Martina Navratilova changed women's tennis, because you could be an athlete, you could have muscles. I don't know of anybody. You know, Federer is just precision. He's like, I don't know if you go boy, I wanna be like Federer. I don't know what that means. You know, mclovin. Sampras with the big serve because there was a time when big first serves one everything asking, I'm no idea. You know, I think it's going to happen in the next few years from the homes, the way Mahomes, does the look away stuff. It's cool. And I'll bet this trickles down to college and pro highschool. Quarterbacks, I think if you watch college football, this year, you're going to see a big time quarterback started that look away move as he scrambling and going down field at Mahomes did because when he did it last year. It was cool, and it always ended up on your phone. Oh, there's Mahomes, looking one way and throwing the other. And he kids twenty three twenty four. It's going to catch on fast. Like Steph curry? I don't I don't see that happening because he might do it. Once every three games in, you might do it. And if you're a college coach, I'd be like, no, no. Hey skippy. Right. Compare no not doing the look away stuff the Oto Beckham junior in the one handed catch that similar saying that's there isn't a child over seven. That doesn't try to catch the ball one handed now but you can see that every single game at. Few times the one handed grab where's the look away? I mean Mahomes did it and I don't know. I hope it doesn't catch on. And what happened to grab used to be out of necessity? Because your arm was pinned your the angle. Now, it's about looking cool. You like okay this catch isn't that tough? I'll go one handed with these sticky gloves. Because I know that's a highlight in that I could use to use one. I'm also trying to think if there's anybody else like baseball did. Anyway, I was gonna ask you, anybody who changed things in baseball. Yeah. For t-. Well, it's not as much now but Ricky Henderson, and Lou Brock, as far as they don't steal. Yeah. That's done. Mary Barry Bonds taking pitches taking steroids. Every five home runs a year, it really caught on after he mastered. The steroid taking pitches taking steroids, not in that order. Everyone did it after they saw the money bonds made them. Yes. Yes, we're lucky that Tim Lynn succumb just was a brief flash in the pan there. Because if every kid tried to omit. I feel like I have to get a justed every time I watch Linda compare. Yeah. Mclovin. Tommy, John, he's the most influential baseball player 'cause he got that surgery. And now that's all they do. Why isn't it the doctor? Right. It's the patient. So we give all this credit to Tommy, Johnny just laid there. It's, it's the doctor who goes, do we know who the doctor is. Meanwhile, Dr Charles Anita Meyer, he's like, I'm the one that did it. Shouldn't he get into the hall of fame for contributions to the game? Right. Tommy John, I think one two hundred eighty eight games and you can put him in there if you want, I'm fine with that. But do we know who the doctor is who perform the surgery on Tommy, John? Yes. Mclovin, I'm seeing Dr Frank job in one thousand nine hundred seventy four Frank job should be is Frank job in the baseball hall of fame. I don't but other people say that Tommy, John is ruined. It be easier to had just got joked. I just got job. There's a lot song and book a job in the bible. It all works, yet, then it turns out of got job completely jogged, and whoever invented pitch limits, by the way that person definitely. We're going to Tony LaRussa for going. Picked out. All we're doing anti contribution. Game treasures. It's even more fun. Yeah. Paulie doing your wish Tommy, John had a weird name like norm Lipchitz and it stuck like, yeah, she got lip shift again. And you gotta get shifts surgery junior in before his senior year. He's had another lift shit surgery on another shit though. Tommy, John and all you do is lie there. Well, I did have to come back and pitch. You know in fairness to him. But the doctor Dr Frank job. Yes. Mclovin did work against Reggie Jackson at night as I recall wasn't. He wanted what Tommy John didn't give up the home run. Didn't who were the three guys. I don't fritzy does it was really. So so really associate was the last pitcher was. Lob Welsh and burn. Those are two three those guys who gave up the home run. John in there. You're the one who I criticize Tommy John for just being a passive patient there. I said he's got two hundred eighty eight wins. You I think he does you can put him in the hall of fame. I'm fine with that. How many wins does Tommy John have yet to eighty eight in twenty-six? He finished second in the Cy for the Cy Young two years after he got whatever the surgeries call before it's called Tommy Johnson. What was it before owner sort surgical something? Did you just say play twenty six? That's why he's not getting into the hall of fame because it took that long. And he didn't get three hundred dollar. Yeah. Gladys combine their the UA for Champions League. Final is set by the way you watch in. It's coming up. I'm gonna watch in here with you guys doing party. Yeah. Viewing party. It's June first Tottenham takes on Liverpool. I'm voting. I'm rooting for Tottenham I have to that's your squad yet. Not really fair. In a Harry Kane for months. Harry kane. No, I'm a fan of man city you jumped on them years ago after Leicester City, I gave Leicester City one year. Like they said here you go as suze referring to. Averageness. Yeah. And then I was going to jump on axe. But. I didn't even know how to pronounce it man Ajax. God. They are. They sponsored its seat goes. It's I ax. Oh, yeah. Paulie? Seton? Gladly told me was I m separately in the same condescending. Look of disdain we don't actually turn our heads at always go. I it's. They're not Greek either turns out. Okay. All right. Mom, my bad. My bad I, we'll get to your phone calls athletes who changed the game. I throw out Steph curry because I don't know if anybody has changed the game quite like he has because he gives hope to everybody who is small, and how many athletes can you say have done that? And that's what Steph curry did go to any pickup game. Go to any youth basketball game and you got these key. They all think that they got a handle, and they can somehow shoot from three point range, take a break back after this. So the Dan Patrick show, everybody has a favorite pair of jeans that pair that fits perfectly and always looks great. The pair, you wear out at night at home on the couch or like me four or five days in a row at their workplace. 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You remember what a controversy. It was that he wore his hat backwards. Disrespected the game history and everyone that came before him by wearing his at back where the old school baseball guys. Sparky Anderson, I think was upset when junior would have his hat backwards and BP. Oh you're disrespecting the game. Leeann Indiana joins us highly. What do you have for me today? Well, you're talking about guys Jake four the God, Jane cigarettes for more than anybody ever was fade route, because I mean, let's face it of the brute, Bhosle anybody hit the see something like thirteen my sucks sable, but then in nineteen nineteen hundred suspected with twenty nine home run, and then in nineteen twenty four home runs which is four the any other teams except for still they'll athletics. I mean he completely changed the game of baseball and made the whole run the offensive possibility that it was you know, part of the game. Yeah. I'll grant you that there was no integration, you, can you can make the case. Jackie Robinson change the game. But integration was going to eventually happen. But Jackie had to be successful. That was the key. Jackie Robinson being the first African American to play baseball. He had to be better than you even thought he could be. And he was. And that's, that's how it that started the influx of more African Americans to be able to play the game of baseball. Because if Jackie Robinson didn't succeed in wasn't great. That would have probably slowed integration, even more. So that wanted already was yeah club. I'm going sell Michael Jordan again. How about the marketing ability of an athlete. It's totally. It's not what you mean at all. Yeah. But Mike didn't he sort of imbedded that the Pepsi Republicans and Democrats, drink Pepsi? I'm going to sell them. No, no Republicans and Democrats by tennis shoes. Sorry by tennis. Yeah. But he did. Gatorade we wanted to be like, like they'll James harden and get a three hundred million. Deal from Diaz if Mike hadn't done that. Well, I think that everybody can look back on. Michael Jordan's ability to brand himself. You know, the, the jump man brand, but he had to be great because we find their guys who have a brand, but that doesn't mean they're great. We're going to find out if Odell Beckham junior, the third is great from the standpoint, he's got a brand is he gonna win a championship because when you win title, the reason why Jordan was so successful is not how he played the game as much as the end result of how he played in that was winning championships. That's that was the bigger thing. We there's greatness. But then there's champions and Vince Carter is as athletic, if not more so than Michael Jordan is you may not like that. You may not agree with that, but he is. He hasn't won championships. He never played in a big stage, had a big never had the big moment. Jordan did from college hitting the game winning shot against Georgetown. He got into the pros. He was on a bad team. He was unbelievable. Unbelievably talented and then he started win championships. And then all of a sudden Jordan became larger than life. And you're right. Jordan's like the perfect marketing storm, because Nike picked the right guy. Imagine Nike went all in on Clyde Drexler that year. Clyde Drexler is very good player, but he wasn't globally great. And Michael, I think early in the second year he came up with Jordan's that were black and red. There's no white in them. And he went on Letterman and the NBA wouldn't allow them to wear the shoes for few days, and it gave free publicity. It made those shoes to be like almost counterculture, which Nike was not. And I remember my Letterman saying, yeah, they won't let me wear these shows because there's no black lettering, made the joke. You know, just like the NBA and now why did them. And, and so, but those shoes became really hot and that was early. Jordan's crew as it started a second year Mike in Mississippi. Hi, mike. Would he have? Hey, I know we're talking about athletes, but chip Kelly chains college football with a hurry up offense. I don't know if it caught on though, Mike, thanks for the phone call. I can go back to June Jones. Jerry Glenville there guys who were changing the game the pistol offense. And that that to me change the game. I think you have a variation of the pistol offense. Now with what was happening Mike Leach helped change the game. Yeah. Macleod was really the spread offense. He's talking about two like, there's, like route to the spread Texas high school, so the sixties or whatever mouse McFadden. There's all. Yeah. Long form articles and no one can get through on that. Yeah. It happened before chip Kelly. Right. Because it didn't work. When chip did it worked for a little while in the NFL chip, Kelly chip did something different, though. Right. He he kind of. I don't know if felt like chip was an innovator I don't remember exactly why his was about how many plays that you could get his was about speeding up the clock. And as far as the spread offense. So he wanted you spread. And then he wanted you tired and chip did a great job with that Daniel in South Carolina. Hi, daniel. What do you have? Hi, Dan Spitz on one eighty. I, I wanted to bring up Marshall Faulk the pass catching running back because he got sort of trend with Brian Westbrook with any Tomlinson, priest Holmes. Everybody's doing it after him. And, and that running back as the pass catching threat really changed the NFL for a good period of time and still have the fat. Yeah. I think Marshall did it better than anybody. And then ladainian Tomlinson came into the league. But I have to go back to Ricky waters as the first true running back pass catching the dual threat, and he had ten thousand yards rushing and probably had over five hundred catches in his career. And to me, Ricky Watters was that first guy that I remember he just he didn't win. I don't think I don't think he won a Super Bowl in those years with the Niners because they had Tom rathman in there. And who's the other running back that they had Roger crack Roger Craig? Yeah. I'm surprised police on jumping at Walter Payton caught the ball and you could throw it to, and you can run it doesn't need to be said. He's the greatest greatest all of the above Jeff in Detroit joins us idea. Jeff Woody have for me. Going on. Listen, first of all, you guys always win. It's to me twenty twenty year. New studio new match. We're going to get that Immunex. Maybe listen. Nobody mentioned the greatest of all time Muhammad Ali would flood this man into the boxing gang. Nobody paid attention the free fights, nobody paid attention to the way in half an inch MAC. You had to pay attention to the way, they became a the spectacle, it became a certain civil entertaining at that point. And Hamad Ali did it the best. Yes, he did Jeff. And it's great that you bring that out. Because when we see athletes now who make declarations like I'll e you know, he would rhyme what he thought was going to happen. Even tell you when he was gonna knock, you out, you know, the greatest showman because everybody else pales in comparison to what Ali was how he did it when he did it, even when he said, look, I'm not going to war. I, I got no problem with the Viet Cong. You know, he said, I I'm going to take away my title and they did took away his title. But the courage to do that, because of something he believed in or didn't believe in and the style the rope a dope. Just imagine somebody saying, here's my style. I'm gonna let you pound on me for a couple of rounds and then you're going to get tired. And then I'm gonna pound on you. Fascinating in the man who was pounding on him probably through as hard punch has ever been thrown in the ring, and George Foreman. But he said, I'm gonna tire George out, and he did the fascinating mind games. And I think that's maybe the part that of Ali, that is overlooked is his, brilliant mind. His ability to think out think he was so smart whip smart in an character, and charisma had the looks had the style. You know, to be that, gifted that tall athletic, and he wasn't afraid of anybody. But I'll eat certainly transformative. All right. We'll take a break. We'll talk to Chris long, former NFL defensive end he's been out in front of the use of cannabis for athletes. I want to talk to him about that way. Where does he see this headed how much relief do you get, as a player? And does he see the NFL certain? Starting to maybe lessen the penalties of marijuana. So we'll talk to Chris long, the former NFL defensive in Cody Bellinger of the dodgers joins us more of your phone calls as well on people who have changed their sport. We're back after this on the Dan Patrick show. Everybody's got it to do this. I get one for my wife drop off, the dry, cleaning pick-up, some milk figure out something to get out of the house, so I can relax, here's an idea. Let's add save hundreds of dollars on car insurance. The good thing you don't have to drop off or pick up anything. All you have to do is go to Geico dot com and fifteen minutes. You could be saving fifteen percent or more on car insurance. Do you like extra money in your pocket? Do you like not having to drive somewhere to pick something up? This is a way to do it. It just may be the most rewarding thing on your to do list today. That's Geico dot com. Stay tuned for sixty seconds of AP news headlines, right after this podcast. He's unemployed. Nothing nothing to do probably just sitting around wearing a Super Bowl rings, probably putting on weight not doing anything. Nobody's in the house. He's all by himself. He's Chris long the former former NFL player joining us on the program. Good morning, Chris. How are you? I'm doing great. How are you? How do you feel? I feel good. I feel pretty weightless. I mean, not like from a sense of, you know, like when I step on the scale I I was tweeting last night. I like a whole light half pint of Ben and Jerry's. But that's nothing new, but you're I'm certainly not going to be burning that off most taste. So, but I just feel I feel pretty chill man. Life was good. And you know, I'm I got no regrets, and I'm excited about the next chapter yet one year left on your contract with eagles. Why retire? Well, you know, talked about at length, but, but I'll be dead horse. It's just kinda like, you know, the role that I had the last two years, wasn't really there. And I love being an eagle and I love Philadelphia and I kind of weighed option, you know going to play somewhere else. There were opportunities and whatnot. But, you know, for me, I'd rather have a home at this point. And so Philly was a place that I felt really at home. And, you know, when Saint Louis left the year I got, you know, I are those two years and row. And then cut, you know, when when the Rams left Saint Louis, there was no home base to go back to watch a game. So I didn't really have a home. I mean Saint Louis is only there is. But. Certainly was somewhere special and will always be a part of history. So I was like you know what I'm gonna go out on my terms and, and always want to do that. And go out when I'm not getting run out of league and that feels pretty good, which Super Bowl ring. Are you most proud of patriots of the eagles? Well, listen, I mean I played a bigger part in, in Phillies, you know, certainly, you know there were plays. I made that helped us. But, you know, in Philly schematically and just overall I, I was a little bit bigger part of that. And so being being a part of the first one was really special. I mean you know, when you go to New England you you know they're Super Bowl machine. They're kind of football factor. And they turn it out and I love love love that year and add some of my favorite teammates of all time and got to see what it was all about. See how the sausage is Nate. And you know, but Philly for me. Was a really magical ride a historic run for us. And you know, making a few plays helped us that propelled us there felt good. And like I said, they could win another five a low. We'd be the first if you had one story that would sum up Tom Brady. Do you have one? Well, I've told you a little bit. But I think, you know, the day I walked into, you know, the patriots kind of keep my head down as far as I talked to a few guys, I know. But definitely not gonna roll up to Tom Brady and introduced myself. Not been a good player in the league and whatnot. But that's Tom Brady and I walked through the door. And you know, he extends his hand. He's like, hey, Chris nice to meet you. I'm Tom, and I'm like imagine thinking you need an introduction, man. That's how down to earth. He is. I just remember how he treated everybody in the building. I think the measure of somebody is you. Not how they treat, you know, the quote unquote important people, but you know how they treat the people that make that, you know, machine go around every day. You know from the janitors to the people in the kitchen, too. You know, the field people and two guys aren't going to be on the roster along. You know, somebody's invert any camp, he treats everybody the same. And that's what makes them great other than obviously being probably best quarterback of all time. We're talking to Chris long. Nell retired football player. We I- paulie and I were talking about this. We had you on a couple of days before the draft. And then we have you a couple of days after your retirement, so it, it's weird. We've been doing this a long time. I I'm also curious you've been out in front of a medical marijuana use by football players. I can't help but think of Ricky Williams if he was playing in today's game Chris because back then he just said, look, I. I wanna have marijuana I needed. Now. We're looking at allowing players to do it where we headed while we, we should be headed to a place where we allow players to enjoy what I would, you know, not even call a drug. You know, it's far less dangerous than goes on, Fisher's alcohol and going out after chances are the player won't even make it to the club To do this thing that we all kind of wag our finger out. When we when we hear about a guy getting into plate or DUI. You never gonna read about him sitting on the couch, and, and then you can game thrones again. So I think from a from a standpoint of what safer for people in the player certainly people in the smell it is, you know, it is far less harmful than alcohol. It is far less harmful than tobacco and various points in a history. They have engaged in partnerships on different levels with, you know, those respective industries. So I think that, you know, I don't wanna I'm not a dry snitch. I'm not going to put a percentage on how much league smokes, but I certainly enjoy my fair share on a regular basis by career. So, you know, and I was never afraid to say that. But I I'm able to save more explicitly now. I mean. Listen, if not for that on not as capable of coping with the stressors of day-to-day NFL life. You know, a lot of guys get a lot of pain management out of it. But what about testing though, Chris for tort toward all more pain management for me? I think the testing is, is arbitrary. You know, the league speaking plainly knows, damn well, what they're doing. I mean testing players once a year for street drugs, which is terrible. Classification for you know, marijuana is kind of silly, because, you know, players know win the test is we can stop and then not month or two that you stop. You're gonna reach for this leaping bills. You're gonna reach for the, the painkillers you're gonna reach for the bottle low bit more on the weekend. You're going to have a few more drinks and a few turns into a few too many. And, you know, just. It's just not the same. And, and if you're serious about players not smoking, you know, you'd be testing more often, I hope they go the opposite direction, and, and just kinda realized how arbitrary doing that one test to your is. Well, good luck in the in retirement, or whatever that means, mclovin, did have a game of thrones question for you Kristie loved your blog on game of thrones. Thought it was great. But you were disappointed with the finance was there anything that could have happened, that would have not disappointed you with the game of thrones Bonaly. Well it was hard. Because, you know, I think if analogies a little bit of a victim of the season as a whole, which was pretty inconsistent. It was kind of a microcosm of that. I mean, like depending on how you feel if you didn't like any shield turn or you were kind of a fan Boyer fan girl, Danny the season was ruined for you. As soon as she fulfilled that married Queen prophecy, or just kind of had enough. I mean who wouldn't have enough after all she's been through? But, you know, I think the first half of the finale on its own was very was relatively strong and then the second half just felt kinda unceremonious. I mean, you, you're waiting on a on a decision that, that's you know, eight ten years in the making. And you kinda sit around in the council is meeting after the guys the, the people that do the subtitles I was watching subtitles. And, and they didn't even know what to call have two characters was like, man, one bad, too. So you're wondering who the hell these people are you don't they don't even realize what they're meeting about. It doesn't occur to them that they need to choose the league leader. They laugh at San well when he's talking about D'amoto. No, we can't do that we can't recap the whole thing. Chris. It was just one. Good. God. You got the rest of your life to do this. 'cause I gotta run here. Chris call me. Yeah. You see Aaron Rodgers student. All I know. I know are, are you mad that Aaron Rodgers got a cameo and you didn't. No, not at all. Arabs ago. He wanted to go down. He had a great cameo. Hey, bud. Great to talk to you, and thanks. Thanks again for everything and the summer is heating up, which means that football season is just around the corner. 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