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Celebrity Big Brother 2 | Monday Episode Recap Feb 11
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It's rod has a podcast. Here's the guy. Who's got the podcast studio down to thirty three degrees. The optimal temperature for podcasting. I am rob sister-in-law everybody. How's it going? It's the final regular night of celebrity big brother as we head towards forty-eight hours from now the finale of celebrity big brother two and we've got an episode to talk about here tonight. But hopefully, we have lots of fun for you at home. Of course, I wanna welcome to the show. We've been waiting all season to get her here with us to talk about everything. Please welcome the great Allie. Lascher alley. How are you? Oh, wanna get you've been waiting for? No. I'm great. I know that when I hear a in starting to talk on the live feed updates that nothing's happening that it's time for me to come on and talk on his podcast. I'm excited to be here. Excited to have you here as well. As a man who's never tired of talking about big brother Taryn Armstrong Darren how are you? I'm great. I'm very excited to be here to recap a recap of three weeks of show. I feel like this is very busy recapping daily. Yes. It's lots of lots of recaps. It's recap -ception. And I'm here for it. Yes. Taryn over the summer. Will you at least right down the highlights of the live feed updates that we can just run one day of remembering the live feed updates that you like the best. Remember that time. Back back on come on. And I'll be like, hey, Taryn uh. So what's it been like all summer on the daily updates? There was one time the feeds came on and mooch wasn't there. And you're like, whoa. Where's the much? Yeah. Crazy was that. Oh, hold on the podcast doorbell. Well, let's check to see who's here. Oh, oh my God. It's brand new Rachel back. Bitches? What's going on? How are you guys doing? We're good. We're. Parents and living life living living life, happy Brendon, Rachel here with us for a little bit to check in and say hi during celebrity big, brother. So all right. You have to do regularly. So you don't lose your place in Rob's line. No, you will never you'll never lose the place Brendon and Rachel always exciting show. Mance always excited to have you guys here with us on the podcast. So what's new, well, you know, rob? I was wondering if you could turn it up to like expert at this point. Yes. It was too easy to podcast is too easy. Exactly. I miss having you guys here in the studio with us. Oh over me with those trae. Now, I forgot about that. How you guys enjoying celebrity big, brother? Well, okay. So it's a good season. Right. It is I love big brother. Always. Not the big brother celebrity that. I was hoping not my celebrity big brother, not my celebrity, my brother. No, you know. I wish the reason we like to watch celebrity big brother is because I feel like we get to know the celebrities, and we get to learn about what they do. And who they are and this season. I don't feel like we've really learned with a there was a high point of the season that really early. So after the discussion about valve movements. And much else. So. Only the healer one. So you guys like that? Yeah. We did. I like I like the Ricky Kato segment, but we really liked Kato, and Tom and Ryan, and you know. Surprisingly, I think he was one of my people I would never expected to like at the end of this. But he did he becomes during a little bit. You just like man is like like past grandpa jokes like. Like this funnier Brendan or Kato. You know, my book is the money. Got you want the timer? Doesn't really have his Tom green to to balance the Cato jokes often. So you do have these. Nope. Yeah. I mean, you guys are like Kato Kaelin that used to hang out and bright word all the time. Right. Exactly. House. Well, though, though joy house. Nicole kit, Nicole. Yes, that's yes. Okay. We used to hang out at lake what he all. Like, no. What is it? Okay. The go-to turn the lake that Brennan racial can't go to what is it? Right. The lake the chill not be named. No. It's it's really telling Ricky about it. All right. We'll take your word for Allie. Do you know, no? Like a horror. Hold on. Do you guys? Hang out with Jonathan Bennett. Are you guys in the cold? Big brother. Yes. We're in the coal kids club now. So we do hang out with Jonathan he. Well, Rachel has we hung out with him right before they went in the house. Yeah. And then on should've talked with. Yeah. But you know, what? I'm really sad. He was on the show that he would have been so yes, when you said he wasn't on the show. I think you were talking about the recap of the recap tonight. Well, no, I'm I'm actually just talking about in general. I just much screen time as Dina. So. But he's got nothing tonight. They didn't even have like, hey, remember, I feel even in the regular seasons. They give everybody a crumb that he did. He did he make somebody mad in production. Still the T outside of the house. Some some of the drum dramatics are not genuine that would. If that would happen. He did have that part where he walked into the room. And then they were like, no Lolo was like, Nope. Nope. Get out of here. We don't want you here right now. That was it that was all right? So who you guys rooting for to win on Wednesday. I think out of everybody. No one. No, no candy. Maybe I don't. I think so I mean 'cause like Tamar so extra extra. Yes. Got to be afraid of everything. Oh, there's a there's a three foot joke. Somebody. Lolo is the worst. I mean, worst a worse. I mean, she shiny size. We we listened to the podcast to row happy's and shoot worse. Worse. These are awards show. Our jobs not for a while. But anyway, so you don't like Lolo. No, I don't I don't know just think with Lolo, it's she again, I guess I do imagine her being on the challenge of Videon a little bit more a little better that seems to be a place. She just wants to compete, and she's like Agra all the time down like a, well, we kind of figure out why you're not with somebody. You're probably very Gresley life. When are you guys going to be on the challenge? Alleys been weighed asked to cover you guys on the challenge. And you're like the only big brother people that haven't been on the challenge yet. Well, we one fear factor. So he's he's already done. You've gone to 'em TV and you've come back a winner. They're going to have to put us on like the fear factor all star winners seasons. Saving us for that bread. I don't think I think I'm too old for the challenge. I think they like they like young and single. You guys too old for the Challe alley. Right. I mean, they're they're like ten years younger than Mark long. Right. You know, you're definitely not too old for the challenge. But in the past and married couples go on the challenge, it doesn't turn out. So well for them. I'd love to see on the challenge. But let's not risky. You could. Biver? We'll hold out. Rob joe. Okay. You Brennan you could get a in. My man, what is good? Eric what is good? What we're about Dina lo Han, you have any feelings about Tina lo Han. I say we pulled out we put indeed in baby Dino the dog. The dog. He's he's got or appeal the Nina. She's still there. Yeah. This is hanging in there. Have you path Kathy status? She. Yeah. As like being the houseguests and just like hangs out St. here, one oriented style. And then also shouldn't go. Visit. No what? Yeah. I know she's hop on its house. She's not going, but Dina Lohan has a shot to win this thing. I actually do think she does because a good slow against low lows. I mean, I think that nobody would want to vote for Lolo Sono if she lived to. No, no, I think if she was up against Ricky. It's like, well what Ricky and Dino. And it's like what you three a hands the air. What did they neither one of them did anything? So what about are? You a Ricky fan. I just seems a little he doesn't he? You know, he's he's you know, it seems that piece to that's good. Yeah. Yeah. Like, how did we get this cast? And where did they come from? It's like I feel like half of me. Feels like I'm watching Bravo. And it's just the, you know, the Bravo show like tomorrow and candy and then Nevada even though she's really open the mic sloth. It's no it's taymor and Lolo just screaming for. We got a lot of fights tonight. We have to see all the all the all the fights. And the recap. I wish I wished Ryan, and Jonathan and Tom and Cato would have been around longer because I feel like we would have had a lot of fun watching them well than Bill to balance it out way way better to. Yeah. The first couple of guys when they really I thought they tried to almost like, right? Jonathan out of the show and make it like that the bromance and the house was locked the Joey Lawrence. Yes. We're the best friends. That was weird. I was I was confused about that too. 'cause I didn't even think they were friends at all where they for like a week post Jonathan I guess, yeah. I guess so. Yeah. I don't know. I mean, Joey Joey would've been cool that he wasn't playing the game. Either. I forgot he was on the show tonight. Actually. Yeah. I mean, the Mr Clean thing would probably. S things by joy. That was a highlight was like. Got it. Yeah. A mutual disdain. Then you know, we might we might have had a whole different see them. I guess so. But I guess he was a twist like the saboteur, right, right? He would better Salvator the phone dote of we him being the did you feel like that? If we didn't even get any other like in the recap episode of like, here's some weird things at the mooch was doing the whole thing. I mean, I think that that played a big part of how we've the season like after this. After the scary thing he goes out. And it's like, wait. Why what happened? He was a what? You just kind of, you know, at from there just never really got above that beyond that. And I it was weird when they showed him in the diary room. He is like, oh, I can just like I can be summoned in here. I could just come in here with your twist. Right. And then also it was weird that he was able to have an alliance, and he was able to like get nominated and the whole thing was weird. But I mean, route Swiss. How come I have to leave? I'm sorry. Yeah. How come they had? They had a real big brother contestants in the house on the first night of the first celebrity big, brother. Right, right. You guys perform a show for the celebrities this year. I don't think we've had any actual big brother contestants come into the house for the celebrities. They have their celebrities from season one. That's it. That's it. Now. Now, we can't trust the strange different franchise. It's like big brother Canada to big brother US, like no, it's like a big brother over the top. That's like the boulder more. Any other highlights or hot takes about celebrity big, brother. I mean well. Yeah. It was him him go further than he did. I don't know to this paranoia really get him in. I mean, tearing maybe able to tell us better than anyone. It was his parents did his paranoia lineup with how they trading or. I basically basically Tom did which has happened to you? He was hey, I'm sitting there. And then the women were like no Ricky sitting there, and he was like, no, but Ricky, and then they didn't care, right. 'cause I felt like with Tom. He never had a chance with any the females because they just for some reason didn't they didn't want to align with him. And then I felt like the so I felt like for sure the last twist that we saw when they had the when they have the, you know, breaking news when it was like, hey, there's an extra competition h. Each wage like, oh, Tom. Hey, wink, wink, you know. So I thought they wanted Tom to win that Joe lot of Tom green tonight. Also got a good time in Kedah got a good shot at the America's favorite player now or LAC de 'cause locked. He was pretty funny. I think lock these too far back Taryn, right? Yeah. He he's he's been off the show too long. Yeah. Okay. The real competition, then is Tom and K mart. Maybe or what should go third. It'll be two more. I think I think tamer has a shot. I think it's probably between Tom and Tamar from what I've seen from the casual viewers. They are all about Tom, and they don't like Tamar. But the there is like a a large taymor fan base from the live feed contingent. So I mean, that's the one that got her the publicist win firstly. So plus she was all over the road tonight. So, but she does have some good one liners. I'll give. That she's TV. She's she knows what she's doing. Yeah. She does. Okay. All right. Well, I'm really glad that we got a chance to say. Hi to you guys your hands full over there. I appreciate you making time for us. This is so fun. Thank you for having me. And then and then in the summer comeback here in person. Okay. All right. All right. Take care Brendan and punish. Okay. Brendon and Rachel everybody. Okay. Okay. Let's go ahead and try this. Okay. Up. Hold on. And we'll see. Yeah. They're all right. Good. I liked. It was I knew it was going to be a little bit of a wonky transit onto the case. They got Brendon Rachel everybody. They go. All right. All right. Let's let's talk about what we saw here. Tonight, must we. I mean, let's let's go through. It's always it's always fun. And then we'll hear you know, what we can look forward to. But allie. What was the highlight of the night in your mind? I mean, my take I kept a running list of the season. No, not even for this, generally. And one of my first thoughts early on was can you imagine? How insufferable the diary rooms that didn't make air must be. And then we got to see like a full Cup show of how over bowl those DR's were. So I think that was a highlight if you count like me feeling fulfilled. I did like the Cato trying to make Ricky left segment a lot. We judge Sean bit. I was like to jump in. But it's brunch. And I was just like oh can't. Yeah. Love that moment. You did you feel like that it illustrated? What a tough crowd Ricky is. Or maybe that Kato needs some work here actually alley. I want to do here is that I thought of this when I was getting ready for the show what I'd like to do is play Kato's material for you. And see if we get if if we if we can get you to crack, a smile if that's possible. Should you be up for that? Yeah. I mean. Sure. And then. Yes. Okay. So here was this. This was the conversation that led up to that. Ricky Kato was funny. Like one thousand of the time he was playing one thousand time according to to Ricky so I had the whole the whole routine. I don't mean to put you spot at you up for this this challenge. I'm throwing this at you. Let's I mean, I'm not like that nervous because I'm look I'm from jersey. So I'm not offended by these nuts jokes. But if that's like the bar to get Ricky to laugh, and he couldn't laugh in that minute. I'm not working what we're gonna cut before. Then we're only sixty seconds of the. All right. Let's see. Let's see. Let's see how tough of an audience alley is here is the latest and give it up for Mr. Kato kaylin. Would you go short cut metal? Jerry. Ricky Williams called me smiles. Paul. Game. And you got a smile about the children would love I could see you straight out. You're going you should mole yoga. Famour yoga and the baby's going like this. And then. Much. That. Ricky Williams like a baby. Like if I was trying to like make like like a baby laugh I like. V like. Goofy here with. Yeah. Someone who often tries to be funny and fails, I could sympathize Kato a little bit. But what I liked most about this moment is I felt like watching E watch Kato is exactly what it's been like me watching Ricky all. Just like to full many layers unfunny as Kato might be Ricky Williams less funny, or it's more his face in the beginning of just like sheer like impatience it was like sitting here. And I don't wanna be like that's kind of tired with your reaction any point to watching some of the life feeds this season. Yeah. I guess. I went into that clip smiling. Because I thought the set up was funny. And then as I listened to it literally my smile faded from my face. I was just I was like say, okay, we we're really doing. It was not good. This is never this is never a good scenario. You should never try like if the goal is to make somebody laugh you've already lost unless you're really good at it or the other person's really bad at not laughing because even if they are really bad or not laughing somebody's just gonna see you make somebody laugh with nothing, and it's gonna be bearing for everyone. And if you don't make them laugh, it's even more in Barrington for everyone. Nobody should ever do this ever. Maybe reverse the exercise of try not to laugh. Like to me. And then I left immediately. Let's immediately. But then once you heard Kato kaylin you snap, right? Reverse exercise don't have to be. All right. Let's talk through some of the the rundown here. We got a little bit of a set-up about Hal. Hey, it's the fourth quarter and everybody. It's it's go time. Here comes Mark McGrath of celebrity big brother one that Mark McGrath was the right call to host the roundtable. I mean s because his voice sounds exactly like the voice. I think his name is cookie from the Jack box party pack game. So he just seems like a host to me that said over the course of the episode. I forgot that. He was there like he was talking, and I forgot that he was a real person. I just kind of kind of blended. So there's that gaff. Feeling that Mercer? Jaren Ohka really got the shaft. In so many ways between Metta world. Peace tweeting that Ross is the winner the of the season that they had her up in the balcony for like the last five seconds of the episode alley. Yeah. Mark Mark was the right choice. I think that made Mark the rate choice. I think there were doing the Broadway angle with Meriva, but I was distracted by her wearing a fur coat in California. I get that. Like, you guys are a little chilly. I don't know that you need someone who survives negative thirty in Michigan. I don't know if you need that copay. But yeah, I mean, I was thinking Ross is the natural fit for the hosting gig. But then who's gonna is Marissa really the right fit or Mark for the cousins bit. So I could sympathize casting marketed okay job here. The winner and this season. Okay. Terron who's been the biggest snub from celebrity brother one that? We haven't seen Arianna Read the greatest. I. Yeah. I mean, I don't know. I think that they've done a pretty good job of bringing back. You know, the people from that brought back half the cast. It wouldn't kill them to bring back James Maslo wouldn't kill them. He could've come James was on the show is he still into it though. Like how you think he got into it? But it seemed like he was the kind of person that wouldn't maybe now that it's post show. He's not as into it anymore. He coulda into it to show up here like to do this appearance. Like, I feel like that's a check. You're not going to turn down. You're not declining that if you're James Mosleh come up. Yeah. We don't know what he's up to. So that the first thing that Mark McGrath goes into is like we had Omarosa at our house. You guys had to move. What was that? Like, we have a whole reset of the mooch. And it was really like we're doing this again Taryn we're going back to the mooch just keep reminding embarrassing start of the season was and how I mean Rachel running how to write like it really set the tone for the season in terms of just. Right from the gate. The only here. Really? Yeah. Although we did get the extended cut of the scene with the Tom green dog joke. Yeah. Which we didn't get the for the first time around. So we got that. Yeah. Good button on on the on the scene and then taymor as well. And then we go into. The reset of low low and Natalie even Marie the big where taymor busted Natalie either Marie alley and then. Now, even retry the pretend that she knew taymor. Was there the whole time? I can't believe I didn't get a mooch question. No, better modestly. I wrote in my notes. Tamer reacts to politics like rob does not surprise. But that's what is said. I don't have a lot of pre scripted jokes. Good. No. So I'm not even mad at him. Seeing this seeing twice a couple of ood. We watch us already, and it's a little boring, but this busted dot com bit like the whole premise that this even happened and that they tried to backtrack and then Lolo as I would get mad as a defense was just I loved it. So I wasn't mad saying it again. And then with the whole reset of the throat punch Tarrant, I feel like if people tuned in that for the first time tonight and they're seeing slowing though, boy, I wonder how this played out they go to commercial. They always do this on these shows like they go to commercial on a fight. But they don't like sort of like, let the tension out of the balloon, and then sort of like if you're watching for the first time that you you might think that the fight is going to get resolved turned into then do it then say it, then do it. They like to go to the fight on a lot of these act breaks alley. Yeah. I don't know. I'm I'm as losses. It was watching. But my favorite part of this on the rewatch was Jonathan Bennett walking into the room. Like, no, no get out of here. It's a perfect seen. It starts with a strategic error. That's so embarrassing young. Like, you can feel how they feel in that moment. Realize my room, and then taymor reacts amazingly, like not this is not you know, Joe in Dan on season, fourteen or dances. I'm right here. This is like. You didn't know you did not just do that just made a final two, and they're like, no you didn't make. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. You did the best. Is you have a fine onto it candy. Like, that's the all time greatest thing to do is to just like, oh taymor. Now, we're mad at you for your final. Yeah. I think that I don't think there was any agency here, but Lola did end up playing very well in that way. No. I'm mad at you. Screw you. You said punch me. And now it went from like joking around being mad then like lo-lose, Matt. Was. Punched in the throat. Yeah. Don't be punched. I can't believe I never made the connection that came. Our was in this like this threat controversy, and then later in threat controversy with Tom I found that like hilarious. I can't Lolo, of course, is going to like respond like this. What what you're gonna come? At me. You're in me crazy. This was this was a fantastic scene. I love it so much. Good seen belongs in the best of. But we're going to do some Joey Lawrence material alley how big of a Joey Lawrence fan. Are you zero? Whoa. Oh being zero. Yeah. Favorite law. Joey tonight, my favorite. Whoa. Is Julie's when he's doing his interviewer. She's like I had to I had to. Giving her the death stare. Joey there we go twelve nice. That was beautiful. How did that not make the best of what if they through like in the clip show? They threw it to one of the interviews. I think that be good like, hey, well, they don't they can't remember the one day. Mark sada. He said they did that with Tom. You guys were watching this. But on the live feeds Tom was goof. Yeah. Like, tom. Why was he being goofy? When when we weren't around. Sorry. Go ahead. No. I just I love how again Mark sensitive. Hey, you guys didn't know Tom did some crazy stuff Lillo media? Oh, I knew I knew I watched him. I was spying on him the whole time. I knew I knew all I know all about I know everything. Uh-huh. So we get a side of joy Lawrence that turn. Did. We know this about Joey Lawrence has been documented that he's Mr Clean. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. This is like. This is like he was I mean, this is this is Joe is he is all about. I mean, the workouts. He's very particular about his workouts. He gets very excited about his routines. I loved that. They showed the bromance between him. And and Ryan because that was totally true. You should have seen him. Recapping his plans for the night with with Ryan. Okay. We're gonna going going pool. Right. Then when come out and have some some sandwiches, and we do ready for this some Irby's, then we're gonna go and shower. Men can be great. It's gonna be great so excited so pumped. Yeah. He's stuff and forget about stuff kitchen stuff too. So much kitchen stuff with the Joey that it turns out that the the the big brother refrigerators said at a sub optimal. Thirty seven degrees alley. Yeah. I thought curious to get his tweeted like it's not the fridge temp. It's the massive overcrowding of the fridge. That's not keeping your food gold. I don't know to me. And maybe I'm disgusted because I will have scientists who actually know all this. I don't know. It looks pretty pretty if you have too much stuff in your fridge you need to make the temperature lower. And don't what. But if you could see the rest of my room, not pictured, it's disgusting. So I not Philly marriage should get a science project and put it behind you. Honestly, I saw that. God damnit brench that's early. Roy everything on the floor, and it's out of frame. But I also don't have a kid that would like pick it up. So. But yes, join I would probably not get along between his clean freak nece. But to me thirty three degrees. Sounds like a little too cold a little frosty milk there. Right. Yeah. It's only one degree above freezing. But I guess Joey Lawrence who are we to quibble with Joey Lawrence. He knows what he's dangerously. We talked about Kato kaylin trying to make Ricky Williams laugh, we go from the laughter to more fighting, and we get to see another long clip that we didn't get to see in the show the infamous, low low versus taymor battle of the grocery list alley. I don't think that seabass was mentioned this much on survivor ghost island yet. No, certainly not. I remember hearing about this. When you guys covered it on the podcast. So I was a little bit presi sea bass versus lamb chop the bay which then spawned the. Ps or no peas great debate of twenty nineteen. I'm always here to talk about the weird food habits the NFC. But yeah, I this is for the first time in my podcasting life. I'm a bit unprofessional here, and I will have to admit that. I did take a call for my mom during. And it was just moment. I started with just like taymor being like the producers are so amazing that they would flood the fridge with sea bass that nobody would eat. So just scribbled a quick little note. That was just like just bring willow, some see that's like nothing crazy. And then I clicked back in and Tamar apparently Lola's being thrown under the bus, and nobody clean. So I'm just a little. All right. But absolutely not. Let's get the reset on this from Tara Tara. I wanna start outside of the big brother house that I know that you are nutrition expert on the panel. What do you know about the nutritional information of sea bass? I mean, it's got those good omega three fatty thing. He's that's yes. Lots of omega threes. Yeah. You gotta take those. You gotta take those eat the fish. It's got a good source of protein. Lolo only eat sea bass as opposed to any other fish. You know, she probably has a like she probably went in with a certain eating schedule meal plan to make sure that she was hitting all the right Mak, rose and such. So I imagine that's where it came from and efficient probably a good source of that sort of lean protein that she's wouldn't for can I ask a question on that note with the macro and the schedule this is out of order. But I mean, you brought me out. I don't understand how like Ryan lock de and Lolo Jones can be training for the twenty twenty Olympics. And like three weeks of big brother is a part of that regiment, and you can like Joe that's a good question. I mean, I think in my mind, I think that there may be not really Syria dummy way on this. I feel that they're more on the periphery of like I that we're not really counting on them for team USA in twenty twenty. And maybe dare I say both are past their prime. Yeah. I think I think I might be the case. This either gonna make the Olympics team in twenty twenty. And I think mostly it's it's just like, hey, we're going to take a three week period where we just try and not lose too much muscle. Whatever it is. That's why Lolo is in the gym training on her treadmill things like a harness on the treadmill to prevent her from sprinting off the thing. So she has a special set how as well as Ryan's experts experts setting on the pool, the endless pool or whatever it is. They are still in there, and there are still trying to to die in the right way. So I think they're just on cruise control right now. Trying to see them alley. We know that Lolo Jones is also a bit of a social media influence, or is it possible that Lolo Jones is sponsored by a big seabass. We you know, what anything's possible because I saw Britta filter sponde- today on Instagram. So like literally someone from the challenge was like ditch your water bottle. And here's a giant Britain. No. I mean, I would be happy to sponsor not as well. If anybody wants to send me, I could ditch all my water bottle like filtered water. Sure, I could I could like anything. So if you could say are never filtered, but my water is I don't want that to be my brand. I have great judgement, and I'm always filter. Just like my water. Just like want to spend either way. That's fine. Okay. So we got to see the whole low over same. I tear their like some sort of like a mandatory Joey Lawrence house cleanup going on during all of this like like Lola would not stop swimming during the CBS conversation. Looked like Natalie Marie was like windex sing parts of the big brother house that I didn't even know they had to clean. Well, I think this was right before Joey was victims. They were trying to like show him that they're serious about keeping him. I keeping the house clean. Yeah. A sign of respect for Joey. They wanted to send him out. Right. He said, look if I have to walk out this door that floor better be spotless. Little. Yeah. Okay. We then went into segment about how the two best friends in the house had to have been Joey. And Ryan they were so funny together they were BFF's poor John. Yeah. This should have been Jonathan. But here's the thing. We were talking about like what Jonathan due to piss the producers off Jonathan said. Hey, you guys screwed me with a twist? That's what he said. John. In his interview with Julie or is his post game press in his interview Julianne and his post game press. He's been like, look, I kinda got screwed of that. I don't think that very much now. Yeah. I forgot about that. When he talked to Julie about everything. So. Yeah. What do you? What are you gonna do? Not highly effective. Mooch twist was a second chance is. No. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think that that this was getting people to keep you there immediately without ever knowing anyone, but you had three chance his save yourself. The president also not letting. Oh, you're here. You are liar. Tell you why someone told me you work out there Jim in this neighborhood. And I said, you know, what it's knows because you were good at those don't under sell yourself. I know where you work out. You know, it was. They hate. Back at the finale Tarun. Oh, maybe not here liar. He's a liar unprecedented. They gave him an unprecedented amount of chances to save himself. Well on four Tom green. I think I think that what's going to happen is on finale night. Jonathan is going to get up. He's going to say his piece he's going to go to insert his key. And then they're gonna go. Oh, celebrity and breaking news. It's the twist you thought you thought the Mutri's gone. But this is the twist all along the mooch was the mole because he now gets to vote in place of John Nevada. He's back. Boy too bad Jonathan. Okay. All right. Let's see what else was going on van. Oh, I can't skip past this discussion about. Joey Lawrence's cooking substances fells tells Ryan lock the gotta go with olive oil. Wills coconut oil? You know, what it does inside your body clogged arteries? For something. Why? We lost Farren. Block. All right for aero-dynamics. Before he shaves all his body hair. Yeah. Okay. All right. Move on winter of Stein tomorrow. Okay. All right. Then we go to oh, candy and tame our it was the best of times. It was the worst of times alley. Yeah. We had to their friendship goes twenty years back. We had to feel like we're going twenty years back today. One to start this. I don't know that we really needed to start. What was it? The mile markers day one day four day ten twenty four though that's a long period of time. It was helpful to see more. I want to say that it was most helpful again. This is my whole thing with this whole season. If you're not I mean, I don't know rob what you have to do with CBS. What kind of coconut oil arrangement you made? But. You couldn't watch this season. And know what was going on without listening to the podcast? I listened to the podcast anyway because of a big fan motion people doing this. But like without having heard about taymor and candy through listening to updates. I still don't think you have any understanding even watching the big reveal here on the clip show. No, no, not really. Not at all. Bit right. It's like on tour. You're unprofessional candy thought she was unpredictable candy laughed and that upset taymor and to endure being endure being uncomfortable, which I have to do all the time. So that's. May end up in the final two together. And I think that this is again unprecedented, but maybe not necessarily intentional. But you have people who like worked together and trench frazzled together like within the last year, and they may know point really were considered to be like, oh, that's a pair. We got a target them. They came in. And they really the two of them played this beautifully. I unintentionally. This way, you would wanna play it. This argument about relevancy where taymor then decided screw everyone. I'm just voting candy out. No matter what I don't care if it means we keep Jonathan candy has to go that really set a precedent to like open up adore for taymor to be able to then work with with candy later on. And really the pre existing relationships are huge on these celebrities seasons Marissa's and Ross were friends prior to the show, and look what happened there. Yeah. They didn't even have to have like a million fights with each other. Yeah. Yeah. They didn't have let's Ross was also friends with like half the rest of the cast. That was smart. He's cousins with meta world peace that we just found out. Yeah. Secret is eager to lines. We never knew about it. Yeah. Okay. So then we get into the low lows love. Life alley. We get the find out about Lola. What's going on with lows love life while lower. Alot has been unlucky in love for an ethics. Well, that's neither of them are any of my business. But no for any bachelor fans, you may have opted to watch the recap of the recap of CB and said about tonight, you get the virginity story on. Two for one. It's it's trends, it was it was a twofer. Yeah. And so she tells her whole story tearing how much does Lolo do a reset of this story on the live feeds. I mean, not that of she talks about wanting a man alive, but and she talks about her faith a lot. So I don't know. It's it's it's up there. Probably it's up there. Okay. Low low is very religious. Yeah. She's she she is something that I mean, it's why she's still virgin, and it's something that is very important to her and like very core to the decisions that she makes. And she doesn't like it when you challenge that. So like even recently when Ricky is talking about his sort of spiritual self-improvement stuff that kind of doesn't mesh well with her beliefs all the time so that that causes a little bit attention. Yeah. Now, interestingly just to tie this back to another recap of a recap for a long time ago. We do know there is some precedent here that big brother does like to discuss the topic of virginity. When they get a chance to do a recap show. Let's go back to the night of August. Eighteenth twenty seventeen. We all know just gone. One of traits was she was going to spelling, right? Although shooting always have the best book Kavulich from what I understand. She didn't know the difference between Heisman and another word. Ironically, we have a high. Talk in this house this season. Winner. Then swallow happen to Kato's calling the Heisman Trophy stuck in there. We needed detective Asir for this case. Is men. One of each. Yeah. What do you want us to say rod like once the GM for that? I just thought that was the universe. Brought us back on another league cap of the recap. Amazing. Amazing connected. It all it all worked out so shout out to the big brother nineteen midseason recap of the recap. Okay. All right. Then tame says don't go to the how do you know you like sand? If you've never been to the beach. I wasn't sure if that analogy exactly was right. Is anyone going to the beach for the sand? Yes. I hate the sand. Worst part of the beach. Nobody likes to send not Anna can Skywalker. Not bradley. Yeah. Not shimmer. Yeah. So. So all right live serious talk. Okay. We get Tom green opening up about his his battle with cancer Taryn. Yes. This is something that he did talk about on occasion. On the feeds. He talked about it also after he thought he was going to be a victim. You talked about how he really just after. He was diagnosed with cancer in the middle of the height of his career. He always now expects the rub to be pulled out from under him because that was such a traumatic experience. And e clearly he can speak of it. Well, something else is that he's been wearing shirts that are being sold to support a friend of his who has cancer. So he's he is all about the the cancer stuff. And I think he he speaks about it. Well, yeah. And just you know. A very nice piece to be in the in the recap here for for Tom as we head into the voting for America's favorite player as well. I think production, really. You know, wanting to win this thing. Yeah. I think based on this episode. I think production wants Tom to win America's favorite player. I think they want taymor to win the game. Okay. Why do you say that? I this was a great episode for. I think that especially there are five people left in the game tame the drummer's watching. Yes, exactly. John More probably loses against candy Ordina anyways. But that doesn't matter, but she is going to be, you know. You know, if she wants to have a chance of winning she needs to be up against Lolo or Ricky Lolo, I felt like had a terrible episode. This was all the lo-lose worst moment. The lower house me the lows of Lolo where in reminding. Hey, Ryan, remember how hypocritical? She was how jealous she was of your relationship with Jonathan. I remember how terrible that was. And tame our had she was fun on this episode. She this is this is the fun part of this is in taymor being exciting and good TV. And and I think if she really comes off, well, especially in comparison to Lolo, and so I really feel like this could this could make a difference. If the two of them are sitting in the in the end, okay alley true or false. The only reason that big brother production cares about who is going to win the season is because they don't wanna see Dina Lohan comeback and host to competition next year sauce, Dino, hands amazing. Okay. All right. What is it? What is it? That's working for. About the low hand. So first of all, I took the quiz that has been advertised like every ten seconds on my Instagram like, which big brother houseguests, are you? Nice dina. I think Dina it is like we called it the Mitch Raj on the challenge. So that three people who challenge her rocking this or listen to my podcast know this. There was this guy on a blood versus water season. Basically the challenge who would just like not there at all it Mitch. But in the background of every scene you can guarantee he was like stealing the show. So I think DNA is like the Mitchell Dino Mitch from big brother, Canada four. No, this is a lesser known. Mitch if you could believe. Karen mad alley. That's why I'm here for right? So so no, I just think Dina like she kills me. Even the beginning of this episode just flops on the couch like exhausted after doing out -solutely nothing. Like, I love it. I love Dina all I'm so I'll believe every word out of Ryan walk. These math. Harnisch? I knew fake news. I love it. The whole Ryan lock the st- resets of the story. Yes. Her jury management is so good. She's constantly complementing the people on the jury. She's doing it on purpose. But she's definitely doing it. Yeah alley. What'd you think? About the Ryan lock the story. I mean, amazing what a throwback to this moment. I remember when this news broke. And I love her Ryan's able to say like I fabricated story. And also get everybody to believe his version of the story in the house. Kudos them for being like, I was drunk when I told the story so woops. This is I think this was a pretty cool moment for a celebrity season of reality show to see like a story that made news explained by the person on TV the interesting thing and less funny thing about this. Although it was hilarious to me is like this and the Tom green segment together while agree with Taryn that there. This was definitely like tamers episode as far as the winner goes if you're looking at like who did best like relationship building in the house, Ricky is like key in all of these conversations. Like, I don't think he did the best relationship building in the house as the -sarily, but Ricky's having this one on one with Tom Ricky's the one like thanking Ryan for sharing his story to me. There was like a an undercurrent of Ricky connection in these scenes. I just real why they waited to the recap to show these moments. I kind of feel like you have Ryan lock the explaining what's going on here with this big scandal. I don't know why you don't show that you have Tom green talking about like I'm gonna real moment about is not enough time because we gotta get to the back to the the exploding challenges. Yeah. We need to cut back to the next half hour long challenge. And we need to explain more about how the moochers mall and oh bonus challenge bonus challenge. Everyone safe. Yeah. So I there's there's an really like I said going into this episode very had a ton of stuff on the cutting room floor that they could have aired here. And even in even in this episode. They feel like three fourths of it was stuff we'd already seen and they had so much more. Even like set aside the stuff that they cut the feeds away from the stuff that they don't want us to see that. It was got to ugly. They don't want us to see any of this. That aside. There's still a ton of great fantastic stuff from the season that we could have seen that they just kinda let drift away, you know? So I don't really know what they're thinking could you act those moments out if I laugh and sixty. Why don't we live day? Here. It could be a coward. If I don't do it is that happening perform for me right now. Tearing your cowards, and you give us some of the best moments that didn't make the life. Eat updates. Yes. Like from your you some of the things that you were going to say that you didn't that we didn't get to see when we watched a live updates. You know, that doesn't happen. All that often. It actually did have ca Jane. But it was because of a controversial thing. Oh, Honey out of funny thing. Let's do it. I'm out forget it. Then. All right. So then oh, then mercy jar went ochre came. We're going to get set up for the they just they handle this so poorly in terms of their time management. We get an episode full of cliff that we've already seen and it's like will tune in on Wednesday to see H competent like would it kill them to have h competition in the in the show before the finale. You can't have an H competition hand to recap. Do it this way. I mean, the one controversial opinion I'm upset 'cause I thought this was going to be maybe half clips in half HOA JR. Into conversations about it. But full silly me for thinking like this would be a real episode controversial though throughout the season. And I agree usually with Melissa about like not loving the challenges on big brother on celebrity big, brother. It's definitely fun to see celebrities. They did not go easy on that in this season. Like the rodeo one six out that was hilarious, even this one where they come in these dinky, bad costumes that would make even joy Lawrence would be jealous that he wasn't there for that. But so I like watching the for the most part, so I was upset to not at least see more than I think it was nine fifty nine fifty eight. They started HOA. Alley. Are you excited for the musical bats? Oh, I mean, take all my money. Putting? I don't know if we have it. But the Joey Lawrence will be upset to know that people dressed as bats. And he did not get to be part of that. I think he's going to be very upset. I think that, you know, somebody tweeted me picture of Joey Lawrence as mister clean that's going around now. And we all know that the role of Batman has been filled by raw Robert Pattinson. So that's that's not that's not fun. That's my team fund for Joey Lawrence. So everything's turning out really poorly on. Okay, prediction rights. So there's that true. It's true. Okay. Anything else about the episode itself? Questions. No, okay. All right. Let's get into some of the questions. We're gonna start off here with a tie on Twitter says baby brench is a big now. Holy moly. Or highly whole nine. Sorry. I stepped on the, holy moly. No apology necessary. I wonder I wonder if Brennan has the extra gentle baby powder that that Joey needs. Yeah. Always great smelling to turn. Yes. All right. Let's go to another question. Gwen wants to miss something. Swim was low waiting for marriage fake news fake news with they're a different story about Lolo that. What would you have missed like I love the did. I miss something. Like, I mean, do you normally know somebody's like history like that? No. You didn't miss anything. You missed her finding religions point in her life. She was busy. It was hard to meet somebody. Okay. Let's go to Chrissy Khaw bite. She says can Lolo win. Taryn you've run the numbers million different ways that at this hour Ken Lolo win. It's tough. It really is. And I think I had her beating tame our prior to this because I think that she has four votes. Locked Ricky Natalie, Tom Kato, I think those are four locked votes for Lolo over taymor. She just needs one more. And I think that one is pretty easy to get. But again this episode reminding people, hey, low low is really mean to you tame are is really fun that could mean that she gets those other five votes or it could even again reminding Tom and Kato how mean Lola was I could even see them potentially swimming over even though based on their social media right now. I think Bailey Lolo that doesn't mean that they can't change their minds after watching an episode like this can I ask you a question about that. I was hoping we'd see I guess there was no reason we would see this. But when even Natalie Marie, and she knows screen time, either leave Marie. Yeah. No. But I'm gonna give her some airtime when they were talking about. One of them was going to get a victim Lolo was like Natalie. You know, I have nothing to go home to is Lola willing to like give like my life is terrible. I have no medals. I have no one at home at as like her jury speech. Like is that what is going to happen for Mola? Solo. I think so I mean, that's what she's talked about as in terms of like why she wants to win. That's Tom had a conversation with her about like that's why he would give her the win and talking about jury. I almost forgot to she's making Instagram posts talking about how much she loves Joey Lawrence. And how what a great guy he was toward the end of the game. And he responded like oh my God. Thank you so much. These words means so much to me tear. I heard you say this earlier today, the low is making Instagram posts. Can you walk us through how this is happening the shit's she order someone to life? All right. Make a post. There. They have an I have some sort of tablet tweet, they do Instagram. Also there there's an instant there was some kind of instrument, but I was confused too. Because Joey respond like Joey posted the thing. And then there was a response from Lolo to Joey that was like, oh, I'm glad that. You liked my words like she saw it. I'm very confused about this myself. And I haven't seen a dog about it. But but they're just making social media post. I think they're they're able to to post I guess or it was a screen shot of a tweet the Joey post ordinance, grandma. Okay. So that's that's what happened there. And then maybe maybe to ever was running lows account ending to be Lolo Jones vote. I dunno. Okay. All right. She's going to be giving a cut to her social media valet. Okay. Let's take this question from Taylor. How different do you think? The boot order would have been if the mooch didn't leave early alley. What do you think? Well, I mean, it's hard to say right because he was such a premeditated twist was the with Kato and Tom real like with that have been. I mean, let's say that that was real than. Like, they would have had a third which I think that that point is the mooch like adding ability to be alliance is the mooch detracting. It seemed like everybody really liked the mooch. So maybe that would have courage favor for Tom and Kato, but I'm clearly talking out of nowhere because he was a predetermined with a little time. A so obvious plain as day that I mean, the writing was on the wall that mooch was a twist the whole time. Every everybody knew I saw somebody. I think they tweeted me or it was posted somewhere that they they met the mooch, and they got him to sign something that said, I swear it was a preplanned twist signed watt. I swear vision. Pretty sure this really happen. I don't fake news. Okay. Also, I did find the Instagram post. Also did not imagine Lolo Jones on Instagram replying. I genuinely meant every word and apologize for the tense moments. Not everyone will know the moments. We had in the house. Joey, Laura joy Lawrence. You're being catfish d- talked to Dina lo Han, right? Definitely not on Instagram. And she will she's not allowed to see postal cow. Could that be heard it must not be Herber being do never met Lolo Jones? PSI can't wait for that episode of catfish. Because Nick showman has like the catfish is tweeted about that like at least three times since about it on teams E because he's all about alley d-. Were you buying that? The guy on Twitter was really the the boyfriend of Dina Lohan. Yeah. One hundred percent just like Dina. Lohan is buying her boyfriend is a real person. I'm sure buying that. That's a real guy that goes like just Western Union me the money the FaceTime. Okay. All right. Then Melissa what's more likely to happen? The mood attending the finale or Dina low Hans boyfriend showing up we think that the mooch will be at the finale Tarun. I think you will think I heard that. He will he just won't be voting as far as I'm aware. So. Mellon about this point. Because then we're going to get a tie. And then I don't know who's going to come in and break the tie like Julie. Because the mooch twist about second chances Mutuel vote twice. He will. Yeah. Gets to steal Jerry vote. We were talking about before. But he also votes himself as well. Yeah. It will be funny to see the mooch like talk about how great. The twist was. And how well it worked like like. Oh my God. You should see the looks on your faces. Oh my God. Oh, incredibly me. All my time working in Washington. I never saw big surprise like this. This was absolutely. We'll see. We'll see what happens. We're so. Well, people thought it was fake. That's how you know. That's all you know. Okay. Ray wants no is big brother trolling us with the sitcom style. Best of do. They always do this. Yes. Yes. So you trolling us, right? Yeah. They do it twice a season Ray via. Fix started to do. There's enough material for another recap. So this is very meta torrents Armstrong says we'll alley laugh if rob does a Norwegian, Tom green. Yeah. My boom is on the. Coffees fun food. Okay. All right top. Chef is coming up soon. Sixteen episode ten people were waiting. So a lot of people say, hey when top chef coming out this weekend. Did you guys forget to make it now? It's here ready for you. All right. Sex and the kitty girl alley why why is this episode of rupaul drag race recap called root cap called this. Yes, this is actually the challenge they did like a very meta. I imagined to get around the legal issues. Like a sketch of sex in the city of the movie, but they drag queens had to play both the character like Miranda. And also, the actress Cynthia Nixon, so it was a real mess. Nobody knew what was going on to campus so one requiem to be maranda and Cynthia Nixon. So it was sort of like like, hey, like, why do we have to go go to this place? Like and also, I'm running for governor. Yes, exactly. It was like they were doing the movie like, oh, we're at brunch, and then was like cut, and then it would be like, you know, the two don't like each other fighting after ses. With this is this is interesting. It was horrible. But the worst the challenge the better the rue caps. I can't wait to hear Brandt Liana. And my talk this one why are there five drag queens on the poster great question. So there was a fifth person who portrayed an actress who was only in one episode who fell out of a window partying, just yes. I remember that. You should check out the episode end. The Rica wasn't she from third rock from the sun lady. I believe you're correct. But I think you have a better knowledge of sex in the city than I do. All right. Okay. Kitty, girl, you could stick to sex. All right, then oh, rob Akiva, Nita podcast, the twenty two we went back to March eleventh nineteen ninety-five everything that was going on there. When we spun a wheel of podcast ideas and had a lot of fun talking with a kiva about everything going on there on Tuesday morning. It is one of the last live feed updates of celebrity big brother on February twelve twenty nineteen Taryn is going to be ready to go. Tear was busy day on the feeds today. No. Will you guess tomorrow? Probably not, okay. We we'll we'll be going over more more of the games. I went over the first persons game the this morning the person that that one eight your wage and then tomorrow or tomorrow, I'll probably choose whoever wins the veto veto is still being played as we speak. So I'll go over there game in the final Dale over the final two people that haven't talked about yet. People are asking me that we didn't do spoilers tonight. But I I don't have the heart to make Taryn. Reveal all notes tonight. Then have to do it again tomorrow morning. No, he's like. The whole update, right? Let's I won't make you do it twice. Okay. All right. Then of course, all the Elsie. Roundtable is going to be back. The exciting. The exciting VO week four of the roundtable. So check that. What's that eight thirty tonight? Yes. Eight thirty tomorrow night, and it will be the final week for the stock watch. We're gonna rate everyone. We're going over the jury votes in particular. I know I know brand has some some theories about the jury vote. He usually has some good ones like Karen can win big brothers Canada five. So it'll be interesting to hear what he thinks. And what the audience things when we released the form and see what you as how you guys feel about this. This jury vote. Okay. Then on no Wednesday night ten or advocate eight to ten or nine to eleven. Remember, we check check your local listings, but we'll be live fifteen minutes after the finale two hour finale on Wednesday night, myself Taryn, Melissa and Brent will all be here to talk about the winner of celebrity big brother two and everything that happens along the way. So beyond the lookout for that. Scott saint-pierre telling me that Levin fifteen PM eastern time so put on everybody. Well, we got a lot to talk about. Of course, we'll have the podcast for you. If you can't stay up with us on Wednesday night, but we'll be running on a Drena land. When we run to the end of celebrity big brother to of course. Thanks so much of the patrons Rob's podcast. Make all of this podcasting possible throughout the celebrity big brother season survivors, right around the corner to be part of the Robins podcast patron community. Go and check out rob has website dot com slash patron. For more information. I want to add also that winter of Stein is going to be recording tomorrow afternoon. So if you've got questions for Stein, hashtag winter of Stein, we are going to a lot of stuff to talk about with with Eric since the last week. Of course, you could Email winter Stein at rob has a website that Cup or leaves voicemail Rob's wept com slash voicemail or three two three two eight two. R H A pay Nicole, and I are working on a survivor preview as well. If you haven't listened to I one out that's available as well. Rob has a website dot com. Slash s thirty eight for all of our preseason information on survivor thirty eight you pumped up for survivor thirty eight I am really excited for survivor thirty eight the invites have gone out for my watch party. Save the dates have been out. I'm ready to go. I'm on for epic station. Let's do it. Okay. All right. It's all happening. And that will premiere a one week from Wednesday night believe it or not I believe it because I sent of for real text out save the date about a month ago. Of course. Yes. Kinda plug my own show. I was gonna plug it for you. Listen to Allie and Brian Cohen on the challenge for half of it's the challenge war of the worlds. Yeah. It's been great. So only been one true episode Taryn. I heard are you going to continue to watch. I will continue. Sticking here for a little while. All right. We'll see if we can get you on the show in our in your downtime in between when all of this wraps up, and I know Brenston watching so we're trying to take advantage of the big brother crossover, and I'm asking you now to put you on this FOX, you can't say, no because you're live. Well, we're having a lot of fun. Yeah. Should be good. I think it's everyone's everyone's pumped which get homely mean. It's actually going to deliver. Jess, okay. I know I'm on look I wanted to check out the highlights that I feel like I wish I could just get like the big brother cut of these episodes. Do you know how you could do that? You could listen to the podcast. We'll talk about all the highlights. And then give you. Give me the so I know ended go back and see all my Paula cale theory highlights. Yeah. When we get off air, I will tell you Polly. California's most recent Instagram story, which is quite controversial. Okay. All right. And then we'll you covered on the podcast as well. I don't know. 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CBB2 | Friday Morning Live Feeds Update Jan 25
"Hello, everyone and good morning. Welcome to our alive feed update for January twenty fifth. I'm heroes turn Armstrong. And with me today is who how you doing? I'm doing good Tarrant last night worlds collided. Team fund can fund feeds became one. And it was a night to behold, honestly, I'm so excited to be here to talk about all of it. Yes, we had some we had some fun last night. It's an eventful life. You'd update here. Maybe not as eventful as some of us would have liked, but eventful nonetheless, and we're gonna get into all of it as we talk about everything that happened on the live needs yesterday in this big brother celebrity to house. So let's talk about it. We started the day with Jonathan and Dina just kind of talking. I mean, we really started the day with Tamar complaining about Ricky more candy more we've covered that at this point Jonathan in Dina Jonathan was campaigning to her saying, hey, if you vote to keep me, obviously myself Ryan, and Joey will all be protecting you and she's like, oh, yeah. Of course, some totally cool with no new forever. And I love you. And I'm totally a mom near the mean, girls guy. You're like my second, son. It's all good. I'm cool. Second mom to you. So there you go. Natalie in Kato, we're talking they were confirming the votes against Jonathan this kind of a funny conversation because Katie was like, yeah. This is great. I totally feel like you know, you and Lolo in me, and Tom like I would love for that to be the final four and Natalie was like here. Like keeping each other safe next week. Totally. That's exactly what I was thinking keeping each other safe next week and did not really catch onto that. No throughout this podcast. I'm gonna make an argument of a comparison that Kato is an older, Rob Lowe in parks and rec is an older Chris trigger, and that's what I'm seeing. So as long ago about this, but he's very enthusiastic and obviously in that enthusiasm. He loses anything that Natalie was kind of alluding to. Yeah. Yeah. A health nut though. I feel like maybe that's where we lose it. So my theory is that this is Chris trigger that has realized he his body is no longer microchip, and he's not gonna live to be one hundred fifty six accepted, the terms, but he's still got like enthusiasm. Make sense. So we also had Joey Ryan and Ricky Joey was trying to campaign to Ricky a bit saying, hey, you should you should keep both me, and Jonathan and then we'll we'll be on your side, and everything will be cool and Ricky was not really having any of it. The story of Ricky is. Something that we have to watch out for today yesterday. I said, hey, Ricky's doing a great job. He turned those women against those men. He's flying under the radar. He's likable watch out for this guy. And Tom is in a great position. So I mean, I could see this season turning into Ricky versus Tom at some point little did I know later that day. It all comes together way earlier than I would have ever expected. So just watch out for Ricky who doesn't complete. He'll turn this day this lovable. Nice flying under the radar guy. Turns into major douche in my. Yeah. Yeah. It's one of those situations where it's almost like he found out. How people how much people were impressed the bottom and it got his head. He was really flexing those muscles. Like, I'm the big cheese now, and he really kind of tries to make it known, and we'll get into a bunch of conversations that Ricky's had yesterday, which all essentially boil down to you'd really need to say it like that. But you want to did it. So we're we'll get to those. Yeah. I if I named the live feed updates Ville name for this one would be Rikio story of Ricky. Chronic? So after he leaves Joey and Ryan were like what is up with Ricky today. Which is not going to be the first time. Somebody says those words Ricky Kato and Tom are having a conversation about performance and. Just weird stuff about I don't know why Ricky care so much. This is like this is like the conversation candy was having with Tamar except there's no past beef as far as I'm aware. But it's just it becomes very clear and Ricky says it outright later in the day that Ricky just doesn't like, Tom. He just hates him for some reason. And so in the conversation, they're talking about in in Ricky's trying to have these deep conversations where he's trying to get down to the layers of who these people are. And he's trying to be like, well, so why do you think that is like I mentioned on the round table? It's like he's trying to force mean Taryn show conversations upon to people that they did not consent to and so when Tom is like not really into it. And he he's just like not not really vibe ING with what Ricky is trying to push Ricky says something along the lines of. Okay. So deep down. Just a prick. That's what's going on. Like what what is happening where that come from? That's the thing is that we see him Wednesday talking about wanting to stir the pot, and I feel like maybe subconsciously that's no longer a choice, and he's just doing it now in any given situation and given the fact that you know, we can tell and he said that he's not a fan of Tom. I guess he has a little bit more fun doing this now because clearly he wants to get a bit of horizon of him. And he believes that he's in a position where he can always default. I wasn't doing anything was him though is being mad at me. But it really isn't a good look in any way. And then to end a conversation by looking so then the I'd be like, oh, so you're just being a prick not not a good. Look, not a good liar. Any any similar things like this throughout the day with this guy? It's baffling. This is not even close to the worst thing. He does Tom. No. But this is not a conversation that Tom enjoyed and so after the conversation, he's starting to think this. I don't I don't like this is going voting. Jonathan means that we're working with Ricky along with the women, and I don't like that. This is what Ricky wants. And I liked Jonathan. I don't like Ricky. I liked Jonathan. He's this positive. Nice guy. Why we voted him out and going along with what Ricky ones when we can keep Jonathan maybe get the women to work with these guys. And then then we have this six person alliance and Ricky's not a part of it. I don't have to deal with that nonsense and tame mar and candy metal be over too. So that's great like this. This is just we can we can resolve everything it's a slam dunk in Tom's head like he thinks it makes the most sense in the world to do this. And we can see why the problem here is that Ricky clearly has a close thing with the girls now based on the fact that he's he's the one that gave Lolo of information that she's been holding onto like, it's her life or death and then on the same road, Tom things. Well, not in a lower with us. Ricky's kind of like the plus one of this alliance, which is kind of an interesting thing combat now because Ricky clearly thinks he's power physician Tom thinks he's in a power position and both like each other. But they both think that's the plus one. We need the bus ones now which obviously throughout the day as the day goes by Ricky decides what Tom so. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, the thing is Tom is kind of onto something in the sense that if Ricky is doesn't like Tom that is actually really bad for Tom, especially given how close Ricky is with the women. Tom doesn't see how close Ricky is with the women, which is the same problem. Jonathan has for whatever reason nobody sees how close with these women. But he he's onto something in the sense that this is not the best position for him. If Ricky is coming after him, however, as I talked about on the roundtable, I do feel like this is the wrong move for Tom and to try and flip things around that this that the women making this move to take out Jonathan is leaves him bloodless like it's not his fault. Jonathan's gone. The men are now mad at the women. The women are still going after the men and he's just kind of sitting in the middle all chill and whatnot. And so I don't like this move to try and flip things however, over the course of the night my opinion will shift based on the events that happen because once you start a ball ball in motion. You got to keep it going in motion. Otherwise, it's it's bad to stop it as we'll find out. So Tom talks to Cato about this idea. Hey, why don't we why don't we keep Jonathan? What do you think Cato is not sold on this Kato are enthusiastic guy who are Chris trigger? Here is very much Downer. When. It comes to this plan. He's not not into it. Yeah. Okay. So another piece now. Good segue with restrictor, Tom. Is there anything we can do or there's nothing we can do like that's pretty much how I felt with him throughout the night to where it's like I understand yet. But like like, no, I don't I don't see it. I don't think I really don't think we should do this. And it's funny because a lot of this kind of stems on the fact that Thomas seen as an emotional guy. And we kinda see a lot who will talk about this part of him throw yesterday about the fact that oh he was so depressed on the block. That's why he was saved. And this is based on what Kato must've said in his veto speech, which also comes up again throughout the Sunday where Thomas seen as this fragile bird. So a lot of the things he sang while they start to make sense while they do make sense. Well, it's a good argument to make they can't help. But be like you're just being emotional about it. But he like, that's what it is. And like he's Canadian, obviously, there was just a nice guy. You can't handle these like brash comments that you're you're not well equipped. For it. Yeah. Kato is really. He's also trying to be like, I don't worry like wasn't trying to be mean or anything like. You want? What are you talking about? So yeah, it's it's a strange situation there in Thomas trying to be like, look, I'm not gonna do anything without your consent. We're not gonna move ahead unless you agree with me what I'm trying to do right now is convince you to make this move. And if I can't convince you then maybe it's not a good move. So he's trying to be as as as soft about this as possible with keta, but. You know, what's weird is that everything Tom has done with Cato? So far Cato is listened to Tom Tom is the smart one Kato is the one that just kind of goes along with it. And then all of a sudden when Tom wants to actually do something it's it's completely shutdown. Tom does not have as much control in this relationship as we might have thought is the lesson that I learned yesterday and last night. Yeah, I feel like once Cato starts getting the wheels undermined starting to learn obviously, Tom's have been is like tutor it's kind of like teaching the child manners, and that's been working well on Kato. And I think it was just really afraid of the ramifications of something like this what happens next week because obviously, we're fine. Like Tom keeps trying to throw up. Let's talk about the next week. Let's start planning. Let's figure out a little let's finish this week. I like this'll be let's just do this for now. I think catos terrified what would happen if they were to do something to piss off Ricky and by proxy, the girls or something like that. Terrified confrontations. We'll eat there. Yes. So we we ended up getting a, hey, another, Tom and Kato confrontation. A little bit later. But I I we had taymor talking to Ricky Lillo tame throughout the day is also campaigning for a let's save Jonathan message, which is more. Let's evict candy than let save Jonathan. But it has the same effect. She saying why are we taking Jonathan he's not coming for us? Again. Tae Mars, speaking the truth. She is like, well, I don't think what Tom is doing is like necessarily the right move for him. What team are saying is the right move for these women. They shouldn't be taking Jonathan Jonathan isn't coming for them. While candy is at the very least they should be going after Joey who is more likely to come for them. But for whatever reason they're just really stuck on Jonathan and tame is trying to be like, why are we doing this? But Ricky is right there and Ricky is the reason they're doing it and Ricky is not letting them move away from this idea and Mars just getting shut down all day. Yeah. And like the thing is this kind of goes back to the emotion. Bits where Tae mar and the thing with candy. They just anytime. She brings it up. No matter how valid point. They just look at it. As a personal thing you're doing like, you're taking personally it's not going to be a problem. Like we're talking about. We'll get candy out next. We need to Jonathan out. No matter what they say. Kmart comes back to this. But Ricky keep site extinguishing the flames anything she tries to get going Ricky's Manara. We're not doing this. Also you to someone in Joey I believe Batman now. Yeah. Yeah. That's what his name. Now. You're really wants to be Batman. Yeah. Yeah. Character. Yeah. And what's funny is that Natalie in Lolo keep dismissing taymor like you're just being emotional. You're just holding a personal grudge? But that's exactly what they're doing for taking Jonathan and it becomes very clear later in the night. When when the when they're approached with an idea to potentially save John, but they betrayed us. Like, okay. Let's not throw stones glasshouses here. Everyone's being a little emotional. So we we they also they promised him are. Hey, look, I would not gonna take out candy this week. But we'll take candy next week unless we have an opportunity to back to Ryan in which case, we'll take out candy the next week and taymor is surely at this point like tame has to start thinking that she needs new allies at some point because they do not care about here at all inevitably that should be the case. And just the fact that anything she brought up they shut down. It should be a cause for concern. But I think the thing with him are is too. I think she enjoys the company of the people she's eating right now so game or no game. She wants to be hanging out with them anyways. So I think that's why she's kind like I'm gonna roll with this better. Be listening to me because honestly if candy Wednesday cho- age tie than the walls will low off this house, and I'm here for that. I want candy to win so bad. Good. So good good. All right. So who we then get the the other the other confrontation with? Tom. And now, we're not even at the confrontation. I forgot there's so many things that Ricky did so Tom and Kato we're talking about Ricky and Cato is like, no, don't worry. It's Ricky's fine. And so Thomas like, well, let's him with. Let's name alliance together. Let's see how he responds when we do that. So that Tom and Cato go to Ricky and they're like, hey. Let's let's name alliance together. We're you know, we're working together. Let's make a name. It'll be fun. And Ricky is like now known I don't I don't wanna name you too. You too should make with each other. Not me you too. I mean, he's he used the veto on you. Why are you two should be making name? What everyone knows you guys are thing because us veto on him. So you guys should make name. I'm good. I don't wanna be a part of this team on SIA by come on, man. What is what is this? This is like this is like Penner. On the that. I don't remember the name of the Philip you'll. Yeah, it's like I don't wanna be in your alliance. That's not part of my story. But then even worse because then he's like, but you to I see you as a super tight pair. You should make alliance without me. Just the fact that he said no was bad enough. And then he does this. And it's even worse, obviously to someone that he's been kind of tagging throughout the day. And he's not gonna like that. And I did love the conversation leading to this. Where was Kato and Tom just laying in their beds in their room. Just talking this out on once again Thomas holding kiddos hands, and he's so it's good to think of a name and then propose the name. And if he likes the name, he takes the name, we know he's working us if he says, no, then we know something's up, and maybe we're not art of plants, and then that happened a lot sooner than I thought. I think that we're going to do it right with right? The minute this Ricky, but then obviously all this happens. And now, Ricky leaves the room and. Title. Just let them why does he want to be on hashtag team fun? Yeah. What's wrong with team fun? What isn't in one be arching who wouldn't want to be a part of team? Let's be real seriously. I'm here for that. Apparently, Ricky, oh, the story of Ricky. So. So now like. Is not going. Well, they're not not happy with this. He's not on team fund. So Tom is like okay seriously, though, like why aren't we why aren't we saving Kato? We should be saving Jonathan. I I'm really I'm really into this. Now, Ricky is clearly not with us the this. We should we should do this Kato still not super into the idea Kato still kind of pushing back and Thomas like maybe we should run it by the women. What do you what do you think? I think we owe it to them to talk to them about it. And this is still not the worst thing that happens between Tomonori came before the night, and oh it gets worse. Yes. So they were essentially let's go play pool for like, forty five minutes marinate on this. And then we'll get back to it and decide and then before we get into more juicy stuff just a little bit of light hearted stuff that I don't understand Canada's this thing with words skip. And he says the word, and then he says another word that rhymes like it. But it's not a word. So it's like shoot the scoop and. I don't know what this is our know if anyone out there can explain this to me on Twitter, but I'm just really confused because they happen a lot during that yet. Yeah. You know, when Kato first appeared on the feeds, I was like, man. This guy's pretty annoying. Kind of coming around like he's he's goofy in his own kinda way. He can still be a little loud at times, but it's manageable. And you just kind of get used to Cato who's gonna make noises. I mean, again, Chris trigger comes on season two more like he's of seems like I don't know we go to level. So I think this comparison and salt. So later on Tom is talking with candy and Ricky and Ryan just about his celebrity apprentice, experience and. Just just talking about some stuff. Just having a pleasant conversation with people and Ricky is just hey, can you do your like your stand up about the whole celebrity apprentice thing and Thomas, I can't really do you like stand up without an audience. It just doesn't really work. It's not it's not as fun. And also, you know before I came on the show. I was like I didn't really want to get to political, and it's kind of political. So I'm just not not super into it. And and Ricky is like what what do you mean? What why wouldn't you do it? Aren't you a comedian you? I mean, if you wanna be political you shouldn't be a comedian. Then that's how I mean. You're you're scared. That's just a BS excuse. I don't understand why you wouldn't do it. If this was a comedy club, he'd be kicked out heckling like in the worst kind of way because like it just started going from what are we chop liver? We're audience give us a joke. Do the routine, and then he gets up like Tom blesses are really tries ready to set it up. And she kind of forget the bit. I wanna do it. It's too political. Like now that I'm thinking about it is. That's funny. I thought comedians were you're a comedian. You shouldn't be a comedian. Then because comedians, they can say the things they need to say because they can say the things they need to say to get. You know, be controversial be funny is it. Well, that's really not how it works. There's only three of you around the psych coal fire. That's not you have to feed off the audience and he's making some salient points. But Ricky just doesn't care Ricki wants to offer. He's looking I'm like, maybe you shouldn't be a comedian. I'm sorry. Maybe he shouldn't be a comedian. The guy's been doing this for how many years and now you're saying, oh, you know, what twenty nine thousand nine? Now, you should just hang your because you're not willing to make this show. For me in front of me, candy and Dina. That's an Kato come on. It's like it's like when somebody says that they're like they that they sing and your host sing for us. And yeah, it's just kind of awkward like start singing out of nowhere. And then they try and it's awkward and they fail and then instead of being like, okay? Then you're like can't sing in front of us. What you shouldn't be a singer. Then this what a failure. You are. I don't understand. Why you're so scared to sing? It's just us. It's just like, whoa. What over the line? One thing. I learned last night about this is that last comic standing was the comeback. They should get Ricky Williams as they're like silent. Cal will definitely show some people back and just you're not funny, man. So in candy was there like trying to step in for Tom league? Hey, he doesn't wanna do. Like, I think I understand why you wouldn't wanna do it and Ricky would just not let it go like lasted way too long. We're like even candy was dubbing Ricky would still not drop. It was like his conversation with Tamar. Like, I think that he maybe he's like a sponge in aegis like adapts and learns from his previous conversations, and he's just gotten taymor ordnace in him. And now he just can't let things go. I don't know what happened because the when she was just let it go. He's like, well, I just want people to be real. This is reality TV. Boy, you're not like this isn't being real. And all of these are just such blatant attacks to the person that's sitting or feet away from you and one camera was on Tom old time. So you can see Tom like, I can tell fume it. But he's also keeping it cool and Lolo comes in Lois. This Lola walks runs back into the kitchen and then candies Lee. Okay. It was just so uncomfortable. Because if it lasted five minutes less I would have been like, this was a pretty fun moment. But then it just kinda got more and more uncomfortable to sit there and watch this happen until eventually Tom leaves the room leaves the backyard. Forgot you can't there's no winning here. So at this point, Tom is he's done. I want he goes to Kato. And he says I'm doing it. I am doing I'm saving Jonathan. We gotta do this. So he then goes to talk to Lolo, and he's like, okay Lolo, I've been thinking and Lola's like what are you thinking Thomas like, well, let me let me just let me tell you the story and Lola's like who you're voting for well hold on. It's not about that. We'll talk about who voted for. I just wanna tell you about what I'm thinking. And all this stuff. I'm not a marathon runner. I'm a sprinter. Tell me what you want. It's like, okay. Well, I mean, what I'm what I'm thinking is that maybe we should save Jonathan and not go along Ricky, maybe we can work with Jonathan and Ryan and that can work because they know they put up Joey, and that's kind of a good sign and it got me thinking and lows now. You're telling me to go against the guy who I knew for two tool impact. Another and now many Olympics four hours with one guy. Now, they're best friends. What does that? No. I'm not. That's that's a note from me. Very not into it. And like Tom's insistence on talking with Lolo and having 'cause they all four of them tried to go into the workout room. And this is sketchy past midnight. We are four can't be here. Let's split and Thomas, okay, Cato, switch with me. I wanna talk with low-life the other way around have been better catos, the more delicate he can talk the Lola will not do this him. But Tom was the wrong choice here? But anyways the to pair off and they do their thing. Obviously, there's pushback lows not having this has this thing with with Ryan now that she's just not going to budge on the LAC de like it's over completely over. Yeah. I feel like talking to Natalie would have been the better choice for Tom and Kato who goes to talk in heavily really just throws Tom under the bus. He is not a loyal member of this alliance. He's just like, yes. Tom wants to do this. But I'm not on board, and you know. You know, just just know that this is Tom's idea, and he really wants to do it. But I don't I don't agree with it. So we shouldn't do it. Feeds in feeds in more to the fact that they all arms really emotional when someone where everyone sees as your Osas person saying stuff like this. He's just coming from place of motion then because obviously catered as that's as close as guy like, I don't think it's thing. And he kind of discredits everything that Tom trying to do. Here bless his heart though, given that everyone in the house of new the confrontation that just happened. It does come off as like this is a personal retort because no matter how much Thomas telling low I've been thinking about this for two days, but you're coming to it. Now post this offering take isn't going to work anyway, given the timing of everything, but then have Kato kind of feed this to Natalie Natalie's gonna feed this. So the rest of them later it kinda discredits whole. Yeah. And it's funny. Another point that Tom tries to bring up with Kato is that he's like wouldn't don't you think the audience would want this to happen to? Yeah. And catos like, yeah. But we the audience replaying for the win. Can't we do both? And that just just warmed my heart. Yeah. Can't we be exciting and win. Thank you. Tom is the most meta one a not world peace Metta in the sense that he's aware that this is show when they were sitting laying down in bed talking about proposing this team name, let's keep the white shoes on a white shoe segment for the TV so what even is a why chew segment, but like that you're thinking about us. I like the care about it. So I was here for Tom's weird proposals of things to do for the show. Yes. So after Tom proposes this thing too, low, low low low is going to run to Ricky and be like Ricky Tom wants to flip now because you're being mean to him and Ricky's like, yeah. Kind of don't like the guy. I can't why can't be real. I can't be myself. I can't be real. What is that? No. I'm not a fan of this guy. Yeah. Yeah. This is not good. Now Thomas being I mean, granted Ricky already didn't like Tom, but Tom is being exposed here. Lolo immediately running this was not approached in the correct way. And now Tom is is is kind of being. This is not good for top. And Lillo is also going to end up talking with with Natalie and Ricky, and they're like the Tommy's just emotional. He's unstable. We don't know how to Thomas to go. This is not good. This is all playing right into Ricky's hands with the women. And it's not good. It's not this is what I'm saying. At this point. I thought the move to begin with was a bad one. But he's already initiated it at this point. He's lost his position. He's lost is good. Good standing. He needs to go through with it. Now he needs to follow through. He needs Jonathan Ryan on his side. He needs to go talk to them is what he needs to do and he needs to get Cato onboard. Because even if he does vote to save Jonathan unless Kato is on board. It's not gonna work. I think that Tom is capable of this. If he goes to Jonathan and he says, hey, the women are voting you out. But I wanna save you. I think he would. The loyalty of Jonathan and Ryan, and if you went to Dina and brought DNA into talk to Kato and told in had a conversation with three of them and said, hey, I want to save Jonathan dean, a you wanna save Jonathan Cato. What are you want to do? I think that he could get Cato onboard there as well at this point. I think it's an honesty for having initiated this plan and lost trust with the women. It's something that got to do how ever the rest of the night indicates that he's probably not going to be doing it because it was shut down and the women had Ricky go talk to Tom and Ricky apologized news like, hey, look, I'm sorry about what happened like don't worry about it. But Tom is he's very exposed now. And it's not great. Yeah. Unfortunate. Because while you know, we see everything we know kind of where the truth lies. We know Ricky was instigating Ricky was on the wrong. We know that Tom's making points that makes sense. But the spin team with Ricky Israel right now, he's got the girls. The of hands, and they're not going to see him in the light Tom sees him in. But also the stuff they've been seeing from Tom they have him in this. He's fragile and he's coming from emotion in that same conversation where Wollo tells Ricky, hey, like you've been you shouldn't be doing. This Natalie says, you know, there are some people that are not built for this their mental capacity or their emotions are going to get the better of them. So you Ricky by coming in and just doing these little jabs in throwing these little pieces on them. It's not gonna work. I mean it works, but it's going to affect negatively. So that's not good. He can't handle it. And is just one of those things where I've noticed with Natalie to more and more Natalie just will tell them what they need to hear. But the way she doesn't isn't confrontational. And they they take it. They can you know, they don't get offended by it maybe Ricky a little bit. But not even to that not only is known as the taymor whisper at this point. And I can see why is the way she says she says. Yes. So that's not all we've got for you, though. Okay. This this whole thing did spark something that seemed like oh, wow. This might actually happen. Jonathan Natalie low low in Ryan had the conversation the one that I've been saying, oh, this is so easy to clear up all the need to do is just have a conversation should have happened a long time ago, but still small chance it might work. Now, the women finally confront these guys. Hey, did you wanna back through low and Ryan says? Yeah. I mean, I might have said, you know, thing to about it in you know, like it was mostly like a joke though. And I just I saw you flipping me off. So it was like, I don't know. Maybe maybe wanna pull on the ball guy. But it was mostly a joke in like, look, I'm sorry. I'm just really sorry about it. Yeah. His just okay. So the thing is feeds were down for a while yesterday. And while you guys were doing the round table that come on. So the first instance, we see the first thing we saw was Jonathan in a room with Lolo and Natalie, and he comes he's Olo your bible like I have your bible. Here's your bible, and he sits out on with them. And I was like oh my God. He's going to do the things he's going to do the thing. Tearing wants he's going to sit down, and like, the confront them be honest about what happened, but then he kind of went wrap around and was like, you know, like, I'm just grateful like, let's let's go around and see the three things we like about being here. I three things about me. I'm the loyal, and I'm happy to be here. I'm enjoying myself goddamn like this is not what you need to be doing. He leaves. They didn't buy anything. Then about five hours later. We get to this conversation that you're referring to finally it's happening. And it's one of those too little too late. Like, obviously, it was great that they did it, you know, Ryan and Lolo shero hug. They talked through the things, but Lolo even says it to them to their. Facing? They were like, okay. So sorry for including you from now on let's go team dispatched team decision. I'm just so shaped my trust with associated point which to Brent's comment on Twitter, the blindside might not even be on at this point. They gotta have an inkling that something is wrong. Now. Right. So I mean Ryan is he's doing his best here, and you know. That's that's a lot for Ryan. And and like, I he's being mostly honest and he's being genuinely apologetic. And they're being truthful. They are on board with the women moving forward the women. Don't trust them Jonathan. However is you know, last night we said maybe Jonathan has potential in this game. Maybe that's still true. But he is so bad. He's so bad. He was not good in this conversation. He was he was the opposite of Ryan who was just kind of very open apologetic. He was very vague. And he was still just trying to like say the right thing at the right time. And it just doesn't come off very well and. And you know, they should have come away from this conversation thinking, we're screwed. They're not with us. Clearly, they've been holding onto the fact that they know that we tried to back door them for like a week. And they just now are confronting us with it. And then after we say, we're sorry like, yeah. But this is not a good sign. Also, that means how did they figure that out the person we talked about it was Ricky that means Ricky has been telling them everything if Ricky's been telling them everything all this time. Then clearly they've been against us. All this time. Why aren't they not thinking about this? Why are they not thinking? Wow, we need to change your plans. Maybe we should go to Tom and Katie who've never talked to ever before in our lives who are very very open to saving us. What is wrong with you? What is wrong with you? Why are you doing this Jonathan it's funny because the there's some houseguests talked about how these together make perfect player 'cause he's got the bronze. He's got brains and really Ryan's demeanor and his kind of like. Looking not dumb like innocent. And like he doesn't know better. And he's just like very he wears his emotions on his face that works for a good social game. 'cause he's apologizing and it sells and then on the other side if Jonathan had what you just showed tearing of like having this Retesia, Bob also having the paranoia that what I'm doing could be a mistake and doubt yourself and keep trying to build on what you're doing. Yes. The problem with Jonathan is. He thinks he's not doing anything wrong. He he's coming out of these rooms and thinking Nilton they bought it that that was so good me to come in and give the book, and then kind of tell them to list three things that was such a good character moment for both them and me, I feel growth he doesn't leave thinking. I wonder if they what if what if they were skeptical what if that didn't fix it. He's not doing that. And that is a critical miss for him here. Because obviously like you said he could have potential moving forward if that side of him started coming out. But as we've seen this latest last night. He thinks that they're just hitting home runs left and right one. They're really just hitting blunders. Right. It's it's this paranoia about playing the game. He's so scared to like actually play hard that. He's just he's doing little taps little taps like oh little tap. Oh, I'm loyal. And like got to stay away from Tom McKay. Don't to be seen as playing the game too hard. I don't want to be too many lines is just keep we made one alliance. We're going to be loyal to that alliance. And we're just gonna make little tabs on them. And let them know that we're still good and everything's fine. And we're not even gonna talk to them to too much. We don't talk to them too much because that's too much game play. And we don't wanna we don't be to open and blunt about strategy or anything. We're just going to be like, hey, we're here to have fun. And like be loyalty, you guys, isn't that? Right. And it's just it comes off as like some point. There's there's a level of not playing the game. That is that is not genuine. And is comes off as the opposite of that. So it's very bad. And like you need to play the game. That's what you're there for. Yes. You can't recognize. Okay. I don't want to be the, Shannon. Elizabeth when they already think, you're the, Shannon. Now, you gotta just do what you can't survive. But because you're so terrified you're trying to beat around the Bush as much as you can and not dive right in. But they're already think that that's what you're doing. So you really can't play around that anymore. You really can't put this into perspective. Right. The house is mostly divided. In fact, I would say more than half the house would want Jonathan to stay right? He's gone. I Dina and Joey very loyal people. Those are the two people that were in contention to go on the block next him. Okay. That's what we talked about. It maybe mistake. Maybe not a mistake. Whatever then he has the next to people who are willing to vote to keep him tame are and. Tom who are very very on board with like, I they actually want to save Jonathan Jonathan doesn't speak to them never spoken to them about saving him. He is never gone to either of them never come up with a plan with either of them if he had he could probably make some significantly way. There are three people that really want him gone. That's Ricky lo and Natalie those of the three people he talks to the most outside of Ryan who doesn't have a vote and with those people he is not even very effective in talking to them. But he keeps giving Ricky information that Ricky is able to keep low low and Natalie away from ever wanting to save him. Then he goes to low low and Natalie doesn't give them information and just pretends loyal, and they're like not having any of it. It's just it's all bad. It's not good. Like knocked it out of the park in blunders because then every angle that you described you really can't figure it out, and he can't fix maybe stop giving him. Formation Ricky and start talking more of the girls that could help talk to the whole new branch of Cato and Tom not doing that. There's really a lot of things he's overlooked, and it's because of this complacency he has with this alliance that they built in the beginning and not realizing fully that, hey, maybe some of the things we did they've caught onto like. It's it's it's not great. It's not great. And it does. In fact, seem like Jonathan will still be going. However, there are again, so many things that could change granted. There's there's a lot to the has to happen today. I don't think they realize how little time we'll have to talk on the day of the vixen. So who knows if there's anything that's going to be able to change. But there's so many things up in the air that could allow things to change Tom is seemingly back on board with the victim Jonathan, but he certainly was very close to flipping before. Like, I said all he needs to do is realize that he's been compromised and that he needs to do this. And he's very capable of doing it taymor. Did eventually talk with Jonathan to be like, John, then I don't think these women are going to keep you. Maybe that will be enough to get it through Jonathan's skull. And he can do something about it at that point. But probably not. So, you know, look out for what happens today, but. I I'm honestly so many things it's like it's like it's like needing things to align. But there's only one thing that needs to align properly. But it's like it's just keeps going around in every direction except for the one place that needs to be it should be so easy. But it's not an it should have happened last night. But it didn't. So I honestly think that Jonathan is going to be going tonight. Yes. One drop in the ocean and the ripple effect could change everything. But again, there's a lot of things in the air that could do it. But probably won't like, Tom and Lola, Tom suppose. Go wake up Lola today at some point and like trying like talk about this stuff. We'll see if that happens because that was kind of before Ricky apologize. Does Tom really by the Ricky apology. That's another thing. We gotta look at he's going to sleep maybe wakes up and things kind of felt really really should yesterday. And it's because of the stuff that happens that could flip him back talk the Jonathan maybe. Jonathan finally wakes up and finds out and goes into pure scramble mode. Everyone kind of like now we can look at him in the face and get rid of them that kind of ruined. So there's a bunch of things that could happen. Ultimately, I think I'm leaning towards it's probably not gonna work out. But just the fact that there is a possible. There's a chance there's a chance I'm happy with that. Because that's that's hashtag team fund. That's what we need. I mean, really what should happen. I think what would happen in a game with normal players. This bad is that Jonathan would have a conversation with Tom especially now that he knows the women are the has to know the women on hunt onboard. And he has to know that Ricky has been the one in there based on the information that they have all ta all Jonathan's to do is go to Tom and be like, hey, look, here's the thing. The women are against me. And it's because Ricky told them things that we told bricky we thought we could trust Ricky, but he actually was working against us. The whole time he's been working with the women. That's going to set off a light bulb. And Tom said, wait a minute. Rickie is working that closely with the women when I talked to the women Ricky somehow knew what I was saying about about him. And then he came in apologized to me afterward. He must they must've told him what I said that's not good. That means the women are working really tightly with Ricky. And we didn't recognize that. And we think we're working with the women. We're all getting played. Hey, Jonathan we should work together. Let me pull in Kato and tell him that Ricky secretly working with the women, and the women aren't working really closely with us as we as we think we should all be saving Jonathan and all work together to work against this women, Ricky alliance and bring taymor end and everything's going to be finding cool. That's team fun. That's the perfect plant. Now, we just gotta see if push comes to shove one of these people's minds opens up and they realized hey, we've got this opportunity to do this. We'll see, but you know. You know, it's not gonna happen by. All right. Anything else? You wanted to bring up. Yeah. Yes. Another bit of lighthearted fun. There's a couple of phrases and verbiage that people are just ruining in the last night Natalie Maria said she's loyal to a default. So that's one now. Yeah, she did. She actually did. And then Lolo Jones said, oh, they're going tic for TAC like tic TACs. So that's two that I picked up on a lot of fun. I'm happy to see more of these up. What did Angeles say I forget now. I can't remember. Let's find seems Brent. Man. That's that's unfortunate. Yeah. All right. Well, we who we are loyal to our listeners to a default. And we we will be live tonight. After the episode to recap everything that happens. We'll find out what happened with mooch probably. And we'll all be we'll all be fun in great and team fund. And it'll be it'll be great. We'll be live tomorrow at eleven AM eastern to update and everything that happens today on the feeds will hopefully have a new and there's we're not gonna have. Okay. Just just quick preview for tonight's episode. Veto ceremony just happened. So we're gonna start the episode mooch is going to reveal that there's a mole. We're gonna do a genius style. Flashback where we find out that mooch has been doing all sorts of Moley things and all along mooch. It's been a mole. Then we're going to see mooch off. He leaves the house all gone. That's a whole segment then we're gonna get a second veto competition. That's mooch themed. They're gonna play veto. Oh, a big big, Vito. Play Cato wins veto, whoa. Okay. Great. Then we're going to get some campaigning for the veto Cato gonna use it who's going to be put up as the replacement. Oh, I forgot candy needs to be nominated replacement before that ceremony happens. So that's two segments. Then the veto segment then veto campaigning segment. Then we gotta get like telling Joey he's going up on the block. Why is Joey going up on the block? Okay. Cato uses the veto on Tom. Now, Joey is on the block. Now, we're at the point where usually start the victim episode. Under. So then we get campaigning who's going to be voted out. Why are they going to be voted out? All of that craziness that happened last night. Tom versus Ricky. Candy versus tame are if the vote does eventually flip and it happens to go even more the talk about, but they've got all this all this crazy campaigning stuff. Then the vixen. Which is live and they've got a cycle through seven votes, which is which takes a little while. And there's not a two hour episode of as far as I'm aware. So all of this has to happen in in forty two minutes and. And and then there's what basically what I'm saying? Is there's zero chance we're getting the competition tonight on the road. If we're really getting the vision, I feel like at some point they're going to have to be like, maybe never mind. Maybe we'll change your mind and bring somebody else, but. You know, what are you going? Do. Finally, somebody send me Angeles had scotch free. Yes trait. That was what I was looking for. Julie's Julie's interview with the with the with the victim. House guest is Tammy points out. This is just this is going to be the worst episode ever. I think because there's so much good strategy stuff and drama stuff that I feel like we're not gonna get to it. All I don't understand how they're gonna fit all this into the episode. This is just this is insanity. You know, I feel like to the non live up. They listen tonight's podcast might be the most important supplementary podcast episode because you guys are gonna fill in everything because I ran out of fingers counting. How many things we need to cover this episode, and it is only an hour including commercial episode. So it could be one of those things where it's like. Okay. Bill yada yada through the post veto to the fiction, and then they'll show us that in the intro package for next episode. And then show the H O H that next episode and maybe that'll cover the bulk of that one. But even then even if you remove that, there's just so many other things that they're gonna have to jampacked into this. And I think the one thing I would personally want giving that we're getting all this good feeds, and we have all this. We. Need is. I would just like to see how they're going to wrap up this moot. Mooch stuff. That's kind of what the only thing that. I don't know about that. I would like to see. Okay, I've come up with another idea for the how I'd be happy with this whole situation. Okay. So have you seen mission impossible? No, well, one of the things they do in mission impossible one of the trademarks is that they have masks that look like real faces and they pull off the masks in their daily somebody else. So how this would work. Well, for me is if what they did is the moochers and the dire room, and he's like, oh, man. I wish I had one that veto actually not really though because I'm not really the mooch and he pulled off the mask, and he's like morose or something. And he's like I've been a mole time and. He just leaves. And he's never actually been on the show. And then and then they cut to him and Switzerland. They're like, hey mooch. We use your likeness. Isn't that funny? He's like, yeah. That was fun. That would be fun. That would be fun. I don't know if big brother could shell out that off of a mask though. Also, the only mass person on this show is Batman Joey. The only what. All right. Well, we'll see what happens tonight. And again, we'll be live tomorrow in up, and hopefully, we'll get the h competition at some point tonight. We'll get a new h we'll get some new strategy. But it might be so late that that we might not get a ton of strategy tonight. So we'll see we'll let you know tomorrow in the morning if there's anything super fun. My hop on twitch, and and hang out with you guys. But if not I'll see you tomorrow or tonight, or whenever whenever you want your all call here, you can follow us on Twitter. I'm at Armstrong Taryn is at is them. And thank you for joining us next time.
CBB2 | Monday Morning Live Feeds Update Feb 11
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But if rates go down your rate drops either way you win. Call us today at eight hundred quicken or go to rocketmortgage dot com, racial approval. Only valid on certain thirty year fixed rate loans. Call for cost information and conditions. Equal housing lender. Licensed in all fifty states and MLS number thirty thirty additional conditions or exclusions may apply the feeds, but I am still here. Am going to update you on everything that happened yesterday on the big brother celebrity to live feeds, I promise you there just wasn't a whole lot that actually happened. So just be prepared for that. But I am here by myself something else that I want to do for you today is to to go over a little bit of Ricky's game this season that Ricky is somebody is the is the only person that we know for sure is going to be in the final four because the veto has not been played yet. So I'm gonna go over Ricky game over the course of the season. It's only three weeks long should be a quick little retrospective of Ricky's game thought that would be interesting also thought that I wouldn't want to subject anyone else to have to do this kind of research because. Game in quotation marks. Let me update you on what happened yesterday. Got messages from home until it happened and of story, basically. Got the videos from home deana did not get a video from Lindsay Lohan, she got a video from Ali, which I feel bad. Even just saying that way because I'm sure that happens a lot with Alli like, oh, not Lindsey alley o-. But I figured people would be wondering if it would if it was from Lindsey in. No it wasn't. Was basically they actually they showed it on the feeds which was nice after all of the not nice things that have been happening in regards to the feeds. So you can check it out. The clip is is out there. I don't know if maybe they are not planning on showing it in the finale or in the episode either episode, which is why they had enough beats maybe who knows. But otherwise, we're just going to see it on the episode. So you don't necessarily need to be the clip. Anyway. That happened. That was really the main event of the day. Let me tell you. There is nothing happening on these feeds Tom Green Left the house, and it's like crickets nothing is going on. I literally turned the feeds on at one point. And it was four feeds on Ricky in the gym doing some yoga pose, but his face was smashed into the floor and his impose up and he's just like just kneeling face smushed into the floor. And it was just four feeds on that. Silence. And I was like. Yeah. That that's about what's happening on the feeds. That's about it. No veto was played. I actually knew that the veto was going to be played one on Monday today. And I still got lost yesterday with my days. And I was just like it's surely is going to happen today. But no it did not happen yesterday. It's going to happen today. It's going to happen today. So we'll finally find out who won the veto at some point today. And then we'll see what what's going to happen with it after that. The only really other conversation thing that happened is that we get with more confirmation from Lolo that she is concerned about Ricky beating her in the end, I think decent odds at this point that low low does take tame are to the final two, even though she still refuses to give any kind of like, very solid promise that she will do it Lolo really really thinking that Ricky has this thing in the bag. You know? He he's so he's so well-spoken. He's though is in who how could he not win? So that's that's happening Ricky's chances of getting to the final two maybe diminishing, although Lolo may not even be there by the final four if if the veto plays out in a certain way. So that's again, really all that's going on in the house. We just have to wait until the veto plays out. If candy or Dina win, we could see Lolo leave if if Tamara wins who knows what she would do with it. I Ricky might not even try to win who knows? So some interesting stuff going on there. But other than that, it's really it. So. Unless you guys have some questions for me since it's just us. You know? No, no, no, no other parties to interfere. You can ask me some questions in the chat. Here. I've got the YouTube chat open, and I can answer any questions that you might have for me. But in the meantime, I wanna I wanna talk about Ricky because Ricky I I do think has played the best conventional game of big brother of anyone in the house. If this was regular big brother unsuccess- ter- jury were just talking about like just playing the game. I do think that Ricky has played the best. He's played the most strategically he's made some massive mistakes. I wouldn't call him a good player. But I wouldn't call anybody in the house a good player. He's probably the best of the people that we have in terms of conventional strategic positioning big brother play. And really it all starts with week one where Ricky comes into this game. He's underestimated by a lot of people in terms of how we viewed him going in a lot of people were like how's he gonna function without his? Is marijuana. He's talking about I'm watching videos of him or he's explaining that. He has like extreme social anxiety. And I'm like, well, that's not a good quality to have in a big brother house. And so he goes into the house, and he is he goes into this room this bedroom with three other women madly, low low and tame taymor, and that's gonna prove to be a good choice there for Ricky. He clearly wants to align with women. I saw somebody on Reddit talk about there was a video an interview with him where he talks about like really getting along with women a lot more than he does with guys. And I think this really really shows in his style of gameplay. He wanted to align with women, very very clearly. And so the unfortunate thing for him is that he's not included in Jonathan's big initial alliance that he creates Ricky is on the outside, and this I think. Is something that a lot of really great players have to go through in something that I usually admire player. I think to somebody like Vanessa who is on the outs of the massive alliance at the start of the game. And then weasels her way in shatters it apart and then picks up the pieces. That's basically what Ricky does this week? He certainly get some help with lo-lose volatility because there's some tension between the low low segment and the Ryan Jonathan segment of the house. And so he he capitalizes on that. He he bonds with Natalie. He makes it his goal to cause a little chaos align with the women of the house, and because of that tension he that he picks up on. He's he wins the veto. He's approached by Ryan and Jonathan who trust him enough to offer him. Proposal a proposal of hey, what if what if you use the veto? And then we back doored Lolo and Ricky says that's a that's an interesting idea. Let me think on it. And then he ran to low low, and he said, hey, Lolo, guess what? Ryan's gonna do which really just puts the nail in the coffin of this alliance and cement, Ricky as a trusted ally of these two women and really these three women with Tamar who was with them still at the time. And so this is this is Ricky's best move of the game. It's probably the best move of the game period. Maybe candy getting Natalie out is is is up there as well. But but really of the strategy. We saw this season. This was really probably the best. So I'll pause there. And and see if we have any questions here. Do you think the girls already formed the bedroom lines before? Or Ryan pitched for Ricky to win the veto. Is that why Ricky told on him? Yeah. I do I think that Ricky saw that he needed to break this this group up and that he wanted to get in with them. And that's why we saw him on the episode like I am going to stir up going to stir the pot a little bit. I'm going to. I'm really going to really gonna be throw some wrenches into the works. Like, I said it really was it the best move of the season at this point. We're all kind of thinking. Whoa. Ricky look at that best player of the game. All my. And he really was at the time, and you know, still might be, but there's some issues. So Ricky using this information. It works shockingly. Well, the women fully trust him. He gets zero blood on his hands. He has no blame for this Ricky's, really looking incredibly solid at this point, the women are starting to align with Tom and Cato. He has he is totally fine. He's protected by the by the women. He's got Jonathan on his way out the door. And everything's looking amazing. The veto is used on Tom and Ricky continues, and this is very very deliberate by Ricky after the veto is used on Tom and. Joey goes up in Tom's place. Ricky says to Lolo, hey, Ryan really wanted to put you up on the block as a replacement, but don't worry. I stopped him. I put an end to it. I told him. No, he shouldn't do that Ricky really I mean, he didn't stop him. We know this but Ricky took credit for it. This is all symptoms of a good player here. And it's right from the gate the very very early again. We were very impressed with Ricky at this point. He's also building a good relationship with candy who seems like somebody that he might be able to use in the future. Again, all things looking up for Ricky. However, things get a little shaky with Tamar because she sees or should she thinks she sees Ricky go into a room with candy that that that's that's not. Okay. It's not okay. You can't go into rooms with candy. This did not happen. We can confirm it the feeds. Did not happen. He did not go into a room with candy. He says that he did not go into room with candy. But tame mar does not believe him. She says he's lying on her. And this causes some serious damage to the relationship at least in the short term and. Taymor is really she's never going to forgive him for this imaginary slight. So that's not good for Ricky. And then then we finally see the one I think the big flaw in Ricky's game. If we're if we're saying this was the best time of his game. It was also the worst time of his game. And that is he's he's a bad day. You know, doesn't have as drugs, I guess, maybe. And it's not into not into being nice in Tom just rubs him the wrong way, for whatever reason the Thomas having a conversation with Ricky about how people change when the cameras come on. And I think Ricky was in specifically referring to tame mar when he talked about this because he kind of had a conversation with her about it. And I think that she kind of like. When the cameras went on. She kind of was like whoa, now, I'm crazy and so- Ricky's kind of having a conversation about this. And Tom is like, yeah. Of course, people change. I changed you chain tricky and Ricky I didn't chain like they get into a little bit of a disagreement here and Ricky kind of feels offended. He kind of rubbed the wrong way by Tom and in the conversation, Ricky calls, Tom appreciate. Maybe deep down here. Just a prick. He's trying to like get to the bottom of Tom's feelings. And it's just not working and this tension between the two of them is never going to dissipate rookies gonna push it even further later on where he tries to get Tom to do some standup right in front of them. And then cost Tom a coward for not being able to do it or not wanting to talk about politics, and he also refuses to name an alliance with Tom and Kato. I think at the time he didn't realize how closely he would be working with them in the future. He had a kind of alliance with the three women, and he didn't want to get caught making an alliance a separate aligns with Tom in Kato, which was what was proposed to him. So. That's that's bad too. He does some damage share with his relationship with Tom. However after he sort of realizes, oh, we're going to be working with these people Lolo tells him, you know, hey, we're, you know, we're trying to work with Lola with Tom and Cato moving forward. They're kind of mad at you. Right now, we need we need Jonathan out. Tom's kind of freaking out now that he's got a weird thing with you. And he kind of wants to save Jonathan we need to put a stop to all this. So Ricky goes oh didn't realize he goes to apologize. He tries to do some damage control. However, the damage is done, and that's really that's really the catchphrase for for Ricky's games. Like the damage has been done. Tom green is never gonna forget he might forgive. But he doesn't forget. So that's that's interesting question from Tammy catos. Biggest mistake of the game was not listening to Tom about rolling. John. And Ryan at this point. Yeah. Definitely. At least one of the big mistakes. I mean, oh boy. Kelly Taryn if you had to decide between another season of CB US or be OTT. What would you choose celebrity? I would definitely still choose celebrity. I liked I liked the the novelty of having all the feeds stuff for OT. But it wasn't a game. Even this even this is at least a game, right? So Jonathan is going to leave that week. And and I'm going to call these weeks, even though they're really evictions cycles, but vixen cycle is kind of a lame term to use them. Just gonna call them weeks week to Kato wins the wage Ricky wants to back door. Ryan Ryan, Ricky really wants to continue to get rid of these guys. He he's all about working with the women, and he has a good position there. I think he would obviously like to take some kind of shot at Tom realizing the Tom is is a danger to his game. But Kato is the wage. So Ryan is the target and they want to back door. Tom unsurprisingly is like, hey, Pat, Ricky guy, he was kind of mean to me. Hey, Kato, can we we back door him? Maybe can we target him? Kato says no the women say, no the women are all about protecting. Ricky Kato is all about protecting Ricky Kato really feels good about Ricky Ricky has done a pretty good job with Kato in terms of making him feel very comfortable with him Ricky when he's not in a bad mood is very very common presence. And he does have a level of emotional intelligence that I think gets him in trouble when he isn't a bad mood because he pushes too hard on that button. But when he is not in a bad mood. He he is able to be Kate up. We're all just one big happy family. You know, we're just we're all working toward the same goal. And I think that everything's going to be fine. And who was like, yeah. Everything's gonna be fine. And so rookie is able to keep himself safe this week despite Tom really wanting to maybe maybe make a move here on him. Ryan and Joey in the meantime, they wanna start a counter alliance. They need to they need to do something they're realizing they caught Tom and Kato and Lolo and Natalie in a meeting, and they're like, oh, those four a working together, we need to do something about this and K mart who still mad at Ricky is like, hey, Ricky's involved too. And they're like is he though because we feel like we can bring him in. He seems like a cool guy. And so they if if that contra lines ever actually amounted to anything they wanted to bring Ricky, and and so that's why mentioning Ricky has to Ricky tries to do more damage control with Tom Lolo lets him know, some of the pain points that Tom is talking about when Tom says that Ricky is a big threat, and that maybe they should target him in particular, this idea of naming the alliance so Ricky does go, and he says to Tomei your creative guy just want you to make the aligns name. And so. It's it appeared that that works. Tom afterward was like, hey, Ricky such a great guy. He said, he always creative. He wants to work with us. I'm all about Ricky. Now, however, either he was. Faking that or things reverted back to how he previously felt because Ryan will leave Tom will win H O H and Tom will now want to go back to his idea of maybe we should target Ricky, maybe we should Ricky wants Joey gone this week. But he does not know at the time that that he is the main course for Tom Cato is going to push back on the idea for a while. But but Lolo is going to be really sketchy. She's gonna talk. She's gonna long conversation with Joey it, really sketches Kato out and so- Kato. Finally goes, you know, what? All right. We can. We can get Ricky out. If that's what you want, Tom. We can do it. So so Tom decides. All right. Well, there's a there's a this weird power. That was talked about why don't we do some murder mystery? And that that can be kind of some cover for like, hey, well, I need to target Ricky what if he has the power so Tom wants to do some murder mystery this, of course, leads to the taymor blow up of your threatening. May why are you threaten me? Don't look like that on TV Tom. That's not a good look. And you know, Ricky, by the way advised him against murder mysteries. Like, I don't think. That's a good idea. Like taymor might blow up on you. And thomas. I can handle people blowing up on me. Tom how naive you're? So Tom is eventually gonna pitch this back door Ricky idea to the women and the women will not hear of it. They would rather blow up the alliance before they turn on Ricky, very very loyal to Ricky heated, a very good job of getting their loyalty and keeping it, and so they they're going to warn Ricky realizes that this point Tom needs to be gone as soon as possible he needs to get Tom out Thomas, just he's so set on him based on that prick conversation. And so Joey is going to go ahead and pitch an anti Tom position here to the women and Ricky who accept it and welcome aboard. All right. Joey, you're against Tom. We're against Tom. Let's work together. And so in the meantime, Ricky does eventually cool. Tom down the women are so against this idea of targeting Ricky that he's he's kind of already like do. I wanna piss the women off Ricky goes to Tom and Kato and has some good converse. Nations with them. And they they're like, you know, what fine. We're not going to do it. We've backed off we're not going to back door Ricky. We are. We are all good. But again, the damage is done. The alliance is dead. And so after the veto is not used with no communication between the two of them to parties. It's clear to Tom and Kate the alliance has crumbled. And so they try to flip Joey thinking that they think they have flipped Joey until there's a big blow up the next morning. And then at that point they're going to go to candy the blow up, of course, being the one where Lolo is starts calling Tom a piece of s cited not give language warning for this podcast. Everybody hates Tom here. Terrible human being your psycho, Ricky production, make Cato leave my room. That's that's what was going on with all of that fighting and blowing up it became obvious. The Joey was not on team Tom who was not exactly coming to their rescue or anything. And so. Tom decides. Hey, let's go to candy see if she's all right? So candy, of course, is on board. Hey, I'll go after the athletes I'm done with that. And so they decide that they wanna keep candy candy needs tame, our candy is able to get tame mar because of personal reasons outside the house, they have a relationship, and it doesn't feel like she can portray that relationship. So candy is going to stay here against against what no liquor wants. This is also tame taymor is going to start start calling Tom and Cato misogynist pompous. Assholes? Nuts. It's not. Okay. Things are not okay. And so she is voting for candy who's working with them? But she is definitely still anti Tom and Kato and very pro. Ricky and the women so that's that's going on that's going on. So Joey is gonna leave K marts gonna win the next h big celebration. She's so excited I'm going to get those women haters out of this house, a put them both on the block. They're going to be gone. Rickie is going to try to do a little fist bump with Tom gesture of goodwill that nearly works. But instead kind of turns into a conversation, we'd Ricky K mar and Tom where taymor is eventually going to demand an apology for Tom's threatening and bullying an inexcusable behavior, and Tom is going to be like. I feel like I didn't do that though. Like, maybe you interpreted that way. And I'm sorry if he did, but. Sorry, not gonna work not gonna work. No peace can be made. Candy is going to feel a little bit betrayed by Ricky. Because like I said they had a decent relationship forming and Ricky decided to go with Joey over candy that turns out to be a mistake because candy stayed and now she knows that Ricky was against her. Ricky does try to do some damage control here. But again, the damage is done and candy knows that Ricky turned on her. It is their prior relationship is still enough for candy to know that Natalie is her main nemesis over Ricky, which is going to be extremely important for her for Ricky in the following weeks. So that's good to hang onto. And if were if Ricky ends up winning this game, I think that we can say that Ricky one instead of Natalie because of the work he did with candy. And so that's important to note. So. Rickie is going to agree with the women that Cato is the biggest threat between him, and Tom Cato has been winning some some more conversations more conversations conversation, some more competitions. That's what happens when I start to read the chat for a second as I speak. Rick Kate has been winning more competitions than Tom. So Kato is the bigger threat tween, the two of them, and Tom and Kato are going to start wondering. Hey, one of us is probably leaving. But if we stay and we win h maybe we should make a deal with Ricky. They still feel they still respect Ricky on some level. They feel like Ricky's kind of in charge of what's going on. And so they feel like if they can make a deal with Ricky. He might be the most amenable to it. And and that might be the way forward if they win in h so KEDO is in fact, evicted and. Now, it's just down to Tom Lolo has a conversation with Tom prior to the next stage converse competition stop saying conversation so competition. My big thing. She's a conversation with Tom before the competition about Tom sort of explaining his feelings. Why things happen the way that he did? He apologizes for any misunderstandings that might have happened so on and so forth. And and Tom feels good about Lolo after this conversation. It's a very important conversation because I think it does influence Tom's motives heading into his next HOA JR. However, of course, unbeknownst to Tom by the time Lillo gets back to Natalie. She is fully anti Tom again. And she's using this conversation against it. But like I said Tom doesn't know that Tom is going to win the next h h and now that he feels good about Lolo wants to keep Lillo safe. And he's like what low lows the person I wanna make a deal with which means it's open season on Ricky all aboard. The let's get out Ricky train. Let's go. Can't he doesn't like it. Though. Candy doesn't want to get on that train? Can he wants Natalie out like I said, she thinks that Natalie is a bigger threat to her. And she is so Tom is going to have some one on one meetings. He has a meeting with Rickey it's a tale of two proposals. One proposal being Ricky goes on the block the other proposal being Ricky doesn't go on the block. Tom's pro pro Tom's proposal is going to win. It's going to win. He's the he decides candy really wants Natalie out. So she talks to Tom and she convinced Tom to put up Natalie with Ricky instead of Lolo with Ricky. And that's what's going to happen. Natalie is going to go up on the block with Ricky Ricky at this point decides. I'm done. You got me. I got nothing. I'm a fall on my sword for you. Guys. You women. I'm just here to help you away. Tom. It used to be. Never mind. Tom is gonna win the veto. Crazy stuff. What's what's Tom gonna do lo-lose? Not sure. Because lo-lose talking about how Tom used her Olympic dreams to manipulator. How dare he what a terrible person. Tom tries to pitch an idea of using the veto with two candy and candy doesn't like this. She wants Natalie gone. Tom wants Ricky gone can't he goes to tame our and she tells taymor that Tom is thinking about using the veto taymor misinterprets. What's happening? She thinks that she's the target. She goes and she blows up on Tom out dare you, Tom. You got a me up. You're threatening people. You're such a bully Tom's. Like, no don't use that word. That's not even what's happening. Tom. He's cowed the feeds cut. Apparently. This got even worse than we didn't see it feeds cut Tom goes, he hides up in his room. We know the story next day veto ceremony. Hasn't talked to anyone he decides he's going to use the veto on Ricky put slow up in his place. Ricky is saved his new life in this game is not talking about falling on any swords anymore. He's like, oh what a shame that. I can't separate Fleiss myself for you guys. But now that I'm off the block I want to keep that only because I have a better relationship with her. And I think that it's better for my game moving forward. But I'm going to pretend that I'm gonna let you decide because I knew that Natalie has a stronger will. So how do we keep Natalie? He tries to keep Natalie with Tamar it makes final two with Tamar. They do their best here. But candy and Dina will not budge. They are not able to get low low to leave. So for the second time the zen angry cult is gonna fail at it and vixen vote and Natalie is going to be the next person to leave the game. Ricky is this is important to note a lot more respectful toward Tom after the veto is used on him. He's like, you know, what he's a good guy. I'm I'm still after him in the game. But were cool that were even. Important to note because Ricky's basically, the only one of them that does this for now at least so Natalie leaves the house, and oh, it's double the vixen time. It's time for an addiction. That's doubled. Tom's gonna leave in the double eviction. We we saw this all play it live on the show. That's basically all that happens. Ricky really wasn't involved too much there. Next week week seven probably something like that. Are still mad at Tom. He deserved everything. He had come. And he's the worst. Nobody talked to him outside of this house. I hate him. Again, Ricky standing up for Tom. Hey. Let's chill. We don't need to talk about Tom anymore. He's gone. We we don't need to talk about. This is fine. Rickie Zanu h that's huge for him. Because it guarantees them a spot in the final four and it also guarantees him a spot on me recapping his game. Because I know he's in the final four because they waited to play the veto so long why wait and play the veto so long. I know I know that Ricky was desperate to be the person who's game. I recap. I so. Big win for him that anyway, he solidifies his final two with Tamar. He tries to solidify one Lolo. But like I said just at the beginning of this update lo-lose starting to get concerned that Ricky can beat her and she's probably right about that. Probably. But who knows like I said, I do think that Ricky is played the best conventional game of big brother Lolo, certainly played a bad one of both big brother and celebrity big, brother. But who knows? So Lolo she she doesn't commit. She doesn't commit to Ricky. And she. This really says some bad things for Ricky Ricky's like if Lois not going to take me that's not good and he's going to start to consider. Maybe we should take Lolo out before the final four. We don't know if that's gonna happen yet. And we usually have recaps of games before things. Go to the final fun of five haven't even had the veto the final five yet. And the feeds are dead. I know some people are like, hey, it's always died toward the end of the game which one not true and to not final five this five people in this house. I should be doing something. But anyway, that's really where we land right now. Again, the story of Ricky is the story of Ricky Bobby is. Rickie Bobby story of Ricky. Oh is that he entered the game. He got a bad break at the start with how the lines of shook out. He took control of the game. He shattered this big alliance. He inserted himself with two fantastic allies who protected him. No matter what and were more disliked than even he was he then really just crushed his way through he made a his one massive error with really antagonist, Tom who turned out to be a cop beast. Which is a very bad thing. But overall, I do think as I've said before I think that Ricky is probably the the best conventional big brother player on the season. Maybe the third best celebrity big brother player this season after candy and Dina because hey, they're doing jury management, right? Ricky has started to do jury management right toward the end of the game. He's being more respectful. I think that, you know, maybe that's just innate maybe that's not strategic, but but DNA and candy have done it better. And they do deserve to win over him. However, it is my opinion that that Ricky has played a better game and has done better jury management than low low entail, mar. And so if he is able to get to the end with either of them, he either likely will win or maybe should win in my opinion. But if he doesn't win then maybe he shouldn't have won. So we'll see. But basically the way I'm looking at the votes right now the way that I'm reading the social media. I do feel like Ricky has Tom's vote. I think that Ricky has Kato's vote over taymor and Lolo based on the tweets that they're liking. And so on. So that's interesting to know. I do I do like the count in my head has Ricky beating both of them, but kind of by slim margins potentially you never know we're going to go over the jury votes in some detail on the round table tomorrow night. So that'll be interesting. We're going to have the form to go. That's going to go out and the audience is gonna vote. So we're going to go over the potential final two scenarios and who can beat who. And so that'll be interesting. Susan wants knows candy work on taymor at all. Yes, they have talked a little bit about like, hey, if I don't do right. Yeah. Totally. But not a whole lot. Question. Do you know if they had slot yet? They had slop prepaids Jonathan was on slop he mentioned that he was on slob. What was the point of it? I have no idea. Mito is going to happen at some point today. And then there will be a recap tonight though recap episode, and then we will recap the recap after the recap tonight and then tomorrow night at eight thirty pm eastern. We will have the roundtable final round table of the season. We will lock in our stock watch picks. We'll go over the jury votes and everything like that. Yeah. It's basically what I got an inward anymore questions. Particularly if you have questions about Ricky Ricky's game or anything else than from let me know, otherwise we will start to wrap this one up here. Like, I said the feeds are Ted nothing defeats are. So this is like record-breaking dead. Let let me tell you the the discussion about the season. Instead, the fiends are dead. It's everything's dead. I'm just standing here by myself literally right now slick yelling about a season. Hopefully, hopefully, people are still watching me right now. Do I think Ricky can win if he doesn't own his game and acts like a coach with his honor and integrity. Whereas if k mart owns her game, people might respect that. It's certainly possible. Ricky can be it self righteous. But taymor is also somebody who doesn't really own the truth either. So. I'm not sure I think I think the Lolo is the one who is more likely to be Ricky because Lolo is more genuine with how she feels about things who she often feels in way, that's really bad nasty, but she doesn't. Pretend I don't know. It's kind of hard to to think about that. But honestly, I feel like the jury's votes are probably fairly locked. But certainly, I don't think it's I don't think it's a kind of thing where Ricky is not capable of losing the votes. I think anybody if they get to the final two is capable of losing the votes to win based on their behavior, especially given the kind of people that they have played the game to be. Do you think the women made the right decision working with Ricky and turning on the guys? No, I don't. Do you think Ricky through the color blast veto? He said he did to candy. I'm he said he did did he probably not. But it doesn't ultimately matter who does Ricky win against a best. I think is the best shot against tame. Are I think that Lolo is a second best shot? And I don't think he can beat or candy. Maybe maybe he has a shot. No. I don't think he does. I think I think Dino or candy any of the other three. Let's see here did Ricky deserve his Heisman overpaid McNabb. I don't know how to pronounce that one. Yes. Is my guess who is the best jury management at this point. Best jury management would go to Dina followed by candy followed by Ricky followed by Lolo, followed by tamer, in my opinion. But we will likely get a more concrete answer to that. When we see people in the final why Dina she's in. She's in rooms by yourself talking about everyone that left Jonathan I loved you, Tom. Oh, I miss you, Tom. I really, you know, I wish I wish they didn't treat you the way that they did. I think that candy is a more like respected player, which could get her votes. But it's still a candy versus Dina vote. I'm not sure what would happen. I actually kinda think Dina might take that one. So. Knows. I think is when mean something different, brother. All right. Does Ricky so on candy gone over Dina? It's really it's up in the air. I think candy is really open. I think Ricky is really open right now to any possibilities depending on what happens with the veto. So I don't think we're really going to know who goes home. I think legitimately think anybody could go home right now. Depending on what happens with the veto taymor is probably the safest. But that's just because she's the only one willing to promise Ricky, she'll take him to the final two. If Lolo starts promising things, and they start thinking about how tame mar she has this connection with candy. Who knows they could definitely still decide they want out. But she's probably the safest at the moment. What did I think this season is a good question? I haven't watched it yet. But I heard it's very good. So I want to check it out. Stay tuned. I think that's all we got is Dina winning would be a sad win. I don't I disagree. Like, I said, I think Dina's probably the second best celebrity big brother player on the season. For what it's worth I've been saying that all season long. All right. All right. There we go. That's what we've got for you today. I hope you enjoyed the Ricky retrospective. And obviously this is just my perspective on his game. What I saw throughout the season as I said, probably the best conventional big brother player he played the most strategically of anyone in the house is that enough to win the game. Who knows? But but it's how I saw his game. I went through my notes and everything so tomorrow, I will update you on everything that happens today on the live feeds we'll hopefully get a chance to update you about who wins the veto and who's going to be going home as well. As potentially talking about some of the other players games, especially once we know who's actually going to be in the final four, so. There you go. Tune into nights. Tune into Morrow morning eleven Amy's you're in tune in tomorrow night at eleven thirty pm eastern the round table and. Thank you. You can find me on Twitter at Armstrong. Tony you can find me on Instagram tearing underscore on strong where I post pictures of me in Serie fields. And yogurt, and you can find me on twitch push on TV slash Taryn Armstrong. All right. Thank you guys so much for joining me on this wonderful lonely morning. Next on. I'm Jay Farner, CEO of Quicken Loans, America's premier home purchase lender. 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CBB2 | Tuesday Morning Live Feeds Update Jan 29
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That's crazy. There's some very disappointing. I was so I was in such disbelief that I had to tweet it out to make sure that this is really a thing that happened. So wait for that. Natalie in Lolo are going to be talking earlier in the day. This is before the vixen. Action. They have agreed to take out tame, mar if over Dina if Ryan or Joey end up winning the veto tame was going to be the person that if Joey ended up winning that veto in the episode or Ryan had been picked and won the veto. However, they do recognize that it seems like Cato wants DNA to stay because he's closer to Dina than they are DNA would come after them before she came after him or Tom. So they recognize that, but they're still willing to let Margot I. Yeah. I mean, that's a lose lose -tuation last night. Like, I'm still I'm still not quite a over it. I didn't wanna lose Ryan and getting rid of are would affect to. I mean, they're definitely acknowledging that that scene. A- is less good for their game than tame are. But it seems that they're still willing to to. I mean, cut fat from from the supposed girls alliance. That isn't even really an alliance just those two. But I mean, I was feeling like oh, man. I I definitely don't wanna lose Ryan. But I also don't lose. Mar this really is a lose lose situation. But I'll say this at least Ryan would've competed in the H company. We're not there yet. We're not there. A wait for them. So low low, and Tom Cato have a conversation. There was a whole mess happening where taymor at one point told the women that Dina was not gonna use the veto if she won and that she's in order to protect Ryan, and Joey she's not gonna use the veto. So that they can't be back doored and so low she goes and tells Tom and Kato and Cato's like what? No, no, that's not true. We need to go talk to Dina and make sure that that she does that. She does use the veto. And Tom is just like, well if she doesn't use the veto. We'll just voter out. It was like, no, no, no, no. He's like, well if she doesn't use the she is going to use the veto. Yeah. But if she doesn't use the veto nobody we're going to tell her to use the veto. And Tom Tom is like, well, no, no, no don't talk to her don't tell her letter decider own fate. She wants to not use to voter out. So they're talking about the day in the end talking to Dina, and they say, hey, we've heard that you might not use. She's like what why would I not use the veto? That's make any sense. Fill like, okay. Good. Good Dina's pissed. I can't believe that. She said a swear word. I don't remember what it was. But she was like, oh, okay. Could swore. She was she was very mad. I mean Dana is playing the game a little bit. She does at least have the three of us veto on yourself. And you know. Again, Dina's credit in this conversation. I just wanna work with you guys. Just like I want to be on your team. And like just the day before she was talking with Ryan and Joey like, hey, we get a pull in. We get a pulling candy, and she is she is in like she's floating like she is actively floating in this game, which is actually kind of working well too. So I don't don't close your eyes on on DNA here. She's prepared for DNA lo Han art, celebrity big brother to. In my opinion, one of the more likely scenarios right now. Yeah. So definitely start preparing. So. I think. That we've got this naked. All right. Everything went down. Everything. It's. It's it's it's the. We to stream to all these things is like we're still like I didn't go from you. Chats going to it's like. Oh, I think we're back on which says twitches online now. Two. Is still sending. Data. Rob just said I'm back, but at my back on YouTube or just I'm on Facebook. Come on you to. Make it three. I think the YouTube chat stuff. Oh, no it is. 'cause I said we're figuring it out fan. Thanks and nothing has happened since then, no. Come on YouTube. We might have to go back on YouTube back we outright s-. Okay. Talking about the universe. Where Dino lo Han win celebrity big brother to an apparently all system had the shutdown. Okay. Oh, yeah. I mean, I was trying to get people to prepare for a potential Dina win. But I. I don't want that to happen. Sorry sky. You're gonna have to edit that one out. Anyway. Let's let's just pretend I never happened ready. We're gonna make an edit point here. So. Yeah. Dina could totally win. All right anyway. Definitely definitely impossibility. Yes. So Dina was mad. They're like, okay. Everything's fine. She's going to use the veto, obviously. And then there's this whole then is going to go around and tell them people. Everything's fine is going to she's going to use it who does she choose. Who does she choose? If she gets picked to choose somebody in in in the veto draw. She's gotta choose told her issues Ricky Bo what a Frikkie already chosen. What if I don't, okay? Oh, okay. Okay. Perfect right now. Wait a minute. What if what if both Ricky anti-aum are already chosen? Oh, man. Understand how this people in the house like they're so frantic over like the few possibilities that can happen. It's so difficult. You know, strategy what you say, but it was keta. Frantic like he's like. But then he's like, yeah. It's all like, he it's like he has no internal monologue. Like every like stream of thought that he has is coming out. He can't take a moment to think about it. And then like say the last thing like where he figures. No, you're gonna go through hole round possibility. He likes to be just like chill joking around guy. But the second something like, oh, we have to figure this is. Oh. Ricki than I choose you. But then if you're already chosen the shoes, Tom, and then I don't know what to do after that. And ricky. I mean, what are the odds that? Hey, it's good to be. It's good to be prepared. We gotta tell her about what to do. So I guess we'll just tell her that. I've convinced the the women to veto her. And that she should choose one of the women everything. Okay. All right back chill keta. How long now I need to go talk to Dina. Okay. So here's what you gotta do. And it was just this whole mess. If you wanna if you wanna be frustrated go back watch the conversation with Cato DNA aware Kato tries to describe Dina what she's supposed to do in the veto draw. They both get very confused. And it's it's pretty pretty nuts. Pretty pretty nuts. If you wanna go get frustrated, she's frustrated by watching people back and watch. Yes. So just do that. Strating week with KEDO. Yes. Made sure that the last few hours of his where on brand so. We end up going to the addiction. And as we saw Ryan was not chosen to play in the veto. Joey was the Joey signal was a lights, and he did not pull through he failed his city and everything is bad in the world for Ryan Ryan gets victims back door true backdoor. Ryan locked. And and we go Ryan is out. Now, it comes down to basically that house versus Joey and tame our, and we have this new twist the publicists twist for a while it looked like Joey was in the lead here. But it does seem like tame our has retaken the lead. And the team are is the more more likely recipient of the publicist twist, which I was a lot more fine with before h competition, which are almost ad. I mean, I yes, okay. We'll we'll get there. I will say my Twitter feed is like people that don't follow big, brother. But there's nothing else on my Twitter feed from the last twelve hours that isn't hashtag CB like it's or I mean, I'm seeing a little bit of others. But it's that's pretty much Twitter right now, if you follow anyone that's a big brother person. Yes. I will say. I'm of two minds about this. I like that we can kind of track. How the vote is doing as opposed to like the usual sort of curtain of like don't look at the man behind the curtain. We will count the votes ourselves. And not let you know. I like that. It's a little more, you know, out there exposed, theoretically. However, I don't like how knowing it is on Twitter reminds me of I used to watch the voice and the voice would do like the hashtag save. So and so and so they count that the hashtag. But like the period in which that they do that. It's like ten minutes. So it's really not that disruptive. Yeah. This is when when do we find out who gets this like how many days of this you'd end in about forty five minutes, so at no, I couldn't remember I don't even know what day it is. It is the twenty. Well, thank God. Because we'll ask twelve hours of Twitter have been a lot fun. Fact. I've started naming my notes for the day that I'm talking about instead of the day that the podcast is on because I've found that when I go back to confusing that I'm like, oh, this is labeled the twenty nine th but I'm talking about twenty eight. So if I ever get the date wrong in the future because of that letting everyone the date wrong. It's just because I have no idea. So we get after the addiction. We had some responses to the the vixen. Action Natalie and Ricky we're talking Natalie Natalie in Lolo in particular were kind of like, hey, like people shouldn't be upset that we're playing better than them. Like, just stop it. The equivalent of the year just jealous. Ena Ricky's like, yeah, you're right. They're playing terribly the other side. They don't know what they're doing. He knows how to pump tires. I will say that very good at like like being like. Yeah. It's you that's doing really good rookie was really like lighting the women's fire all after the veto. And it was kind of. I don't know how it has to be pretty intentional something about Joey said, Joey said something about them batting eyelash something like that. And then. Yeah. They got real fired up, and I don't I didn't see whether this actually happened like who pretty. Ricki tells you something like you have no idea. He's just trolling this conversation average place. They got real riled up and went on this feminist rant this. I mean, I support but like full it's manufactured by. I on one hand. It's like I kind of I kind of liked it by Ricky because he's kidding them to go off about against people who are going to be in the jury on the other hand. It's like, whoa. I don't know. I don't know if the jury is gonna like it or not like it, certainly not Lolo Natalie. I don't know how they're going to respond to to Ricky's thing. Think things that are like hard to imagine. Like, I don't know. Joe, Joey, you know, being bitter towards the end he is bitter towards the girls. Like like that is a real thing by he's like Ricky's just kind of making up things that that were actually set weren't actually it's possible. He's not making it up. Now. It's possible. So taymor and Joey have a conversation. This is when I was like, all right. The two of them. Their work one of them needs to h she's like, hey, we need to get it together to win take shot at the other side, we need to do this. Let's go. Let's go. I wasn't ready for that. Yeah. Yeah. Talk. So so the other sides so tame our says all we need to do is new Mead Dina and candy one of us wins. We just gotta tape one of them out. And then it's even and then Joey like, okay. I'm good backed about man. Hero Lolo and Natalie really really upset with the with the man enjoying particularly Ricky let them know that Joey is coming after them and they're like. Joey has no right to be upset that he's losing. He turned down our offer of an alliance. Lo-lose really has selective memory about the first couple of days where it's like actually you never ended up proposing the alliance too. So I mean old oh mess up on Joey's. Yeah. That like. That isn't exactly how it went. You didn't go to ask him. Like, you didn't actually ask him to be in the alliance. And then he said, no, I don't wanna be an alliance like you were in the situation where you're going to have that conversation, and he is an idiot and starts talking about how he hates alliance. And then you're like, oh JK, and these distinctions, well, they may seem petty are very important in a game where he is going to go back and watch this conversation and see that like their justification for smack talking him is that he turned down their proposal of an alliance when he's like you didn't propose an alliance to me. What are you like you are already on shaky ground when you're when you're trash talking somebody, you better get your facts straight, right? Like Stanger's territory. This is what happened with Ross. So I have to believe that that is the version of the story that Lolo believes like there's so many conversations happening, and this is literally their entire life. So in her. You know that that's what how she remembers it. But or how she presents it to other people. There's so much like retelling of things. And it's like you switch a few words and like a couple different spots. And it's a totally different story. But in your brain, you pulled it the way that it actually happened. So I mean, I don't want a dog Lolo too much. But that is exactly the kind of stuff that comes back to bite you in the ass because it's it's literally you ship. A few words, and it's a very different, you know. Like, schema bent. So. Yeah. So low low Natalie they're also they're mad Joey is coming after them because they feel why why why why why he's coming after us instead of Tom and Kato they should they should be going after Tom and Cato. What what why us that's not fair Lolo, she regrets crying for Ryan? I should never him. And they feel like Kato is a big threat, and they need to watch out for him because he's taken to people out. Now, they feel like essentially that he's able to diffuse his target and that he's he's winning things. They need to be careful of Kato. Which actually kinda don't because they're like he's so good at the game. I'm like. And I'm like really like, but it's interesting. It's interesting to note. Yeah. I mean of those of the three guys in their alliance. I really think that Kato is the person that they should be lease concerned about because one. He's absolutely the most loyal to them. Like, he's the most like go team about this five person alliance. And also he doesn't have good game instincts. Like, he's just had power. And just kind of does what he wants to do and doesn't really take other people's opinions into account like that's not that's not a great player. But the perception of him, I guess is that he is running shit. And so they are worried about him. I honestly think of any of in this five lines with Tom Ricky, and Cato Cato could probably be convinced to take one of the women to the end over Tom. I think that that's possible. So the, but again, there's definitely some cracks in this alliance. But unfortunately, when when Kato is in his sort of in charge of making some decisions, we're never going to see those cracks do anything. Hopefully in the future. We will see them do something. So we have a very long H competition. It was an individually timed thing. It was a haunted house kind of thing themed thing I think sort of similar to the blackbox challenge where thinking yes, you go in you try to find something and all of that. What I've been referring to since the start of the podcast tame. Did not compete. This is it super clear that she did not compete because the coffee I wasn't going to like I wasn't going to do that. And if they had told me that I was going to have to do this going, and I would have said, no. But like, hey, mar also is like very gifted in the art of hyperbole. So like, I don't know if she's just being dramatic that she just like didn't do. Well, or did she legitimately like not do that the task like diet what I'm still not clear on that is why I tried to get some clarification on this because I it's hard to believe that she genuinely did did not compete. But I believe what was said is something along the lines of that. Like, hey, I made the right decision. Not doing that. Because I'm not doing that. Like that's not what I'm here for. I'm glad that. I didn't do it. I mean, saying how terrified she was being like a couple like eat off the ground. I mean, if it was a scary competition like everyone was saying, there's probably no way and how she was going to win anyway. So maybe maybe she's right? And that she made the right decision and not even bothering that. Like, she kept her emotions in check by not putting yourself through on unnecessary stress. So isn't gonna win. Anyway. Maybe that's how she sing it. But when you she knows that she's Anna minority position in the house like. Here's the thing about underdogs. They need to win competitions. If they don't even play in competitions than they are not an underdog. They're just they're just useless. The why are they even there? But like, you know, if that man Joey on her side, and she doesn't even need to win. It doesn't matter. It was literally only two people could win this H competition to make it interesting. It was Joey or taymor taymor took a look at the thing. And she was like. Well, candy could've made it interesting. I don't know I've possibly but not. As interesting. Yeah. It's it's unfortunate. It's unfortunate. I'm looking forward with being how that gets handled on the on the show on with it. Yeah. But yeah, I mean, I talked to last night on twitch in particular about like, I just feel like the twist in the beginning that put Jonathan on the block. It's the third nominee twist where you put somebody up that the did not want on the block it gives the majority in opportunity to. To make an H from the minority. Invalid. Right. So. Ryan was in the majority for like a day, then he was in the minority. And so this minority group of the guys should have been able to at least have their h take a shot at the other side. And then we would have had Kato win the next one. He would he would have taken a shot back at the guys. And then the numbers would still be relatively even we still see some some something of a fight. But instead Ryan had to take out one of his own allies as a minority in the house, and then the then he couldn't even compete, and then we had very few options to win in the next h and then another guy gets taken out. And now, we're probably going to see a third guy get taken out because Tom wasn't fact the winner of this. And unless Tom does something to surprise us and make us excited. It does seem like, you know, we're going to be losing either taymor or Joey most likely Joey as it currently appears I there is a conversation later. Like, I'm not putting that in stone. There's a conversation later in the night between Tom and Kato and Ricky and they do express some some concern about candy. And that she you know, she knows what she's doing apparently like Cato made a big deal. But the fact that like the mooch said that she's going to win or something like that. And then he's like risks. Mar like, we should be careful like, and they're definitely they seem. I I don't know. I watched this conversation. Maybe things have changed again since then. But it did seem like they were entertaining the possibility of making candy actually the target. So I mean of the possibilities that would have been the most exciting and shaking up the game, you know, this isn't ideal. But from that side of the house, I'm happy that Tom went wins. At least at least we get the gift of Tom HOA or a couple of days. Him up in his room and all of that. But he he actually acknowledges that candy is a little bit dangerous, and that she has no problem just kind of walking into rooms. And just speaking her mind, and they do seem a little bit threaten, and he acknowledged that he has a good relationship with Joey. So I I'm trying to hold onto some hope like that. May maybe keep Tamar, and Joey I can't believe I'm saying that I want Joey this day. But that's like even if it is candy. It's basically the main power structure will. Say it will stay in place. But basically what it's looking like to me is that the power structure that formed essentially on day two is going to last until like the last couple of victims. It's seeming like that might be the case unless the women get power and turn on Kato that might be kind of interesting because they think that he's a little bit threatening. But. This is not exactly you know. This is looking a bit like the dreaded Steve recall. And I think it's all that. I lists fault. I really do. I feel like it started. And it happens every single time. They do something like that. They eat to try it on the first week. And even on the first week it screws it up, I think so. Unfortunate blaming it on. The twist how shocked. I went into a whole tirade last night on Twitter. I'm telling you people people get upset about how much I really twist, but I really genuinely feel like. Almost everything that anyone ever complains about most of it can be traced back to a poor production decision. Most of those poor production decisions are involved around some kind of twist or another, and I really think that this. Initial twist really screwed us up here. I disagree. I am fully on board with the fact that the first week of the shell was massive mishandling on productions part between you know, that twist and the mooch mystery that I still who knows what that was really about. They they really did botch like the beginning of this. And when you have such a small group like something as minor as that first week twist like you said really does change the whole course of that. And you're probably right that we're going to get less strategic drama from the rest of the season. But thank God that we still these. These people seem to have enough social. Chaos between them that. At least will maybe get something. Interesting out of that. Like, I. Our biggest our biggest hope here is Tom because after he won the he did say with great power comes great responsibility. I'm gonna make I've got some big decisions to make not sure I'm going to do which is going to surprise some people. If it's surprising people, then I think will be happy because the only way to surprise his alliance is to basically, try them. Right. Like, there's no other thing that would surprise them unless he thinks that like trying to target candy would surprise them. But I don't think it would. Yeah. He he does say something about not doing what you think or something. But like. He does this whole near. And then he's like oh loss happened today. I'm not going to tell you about it. Like, we gotta wait and see it's gonna be a big day tomorrow. And I really just wanna know if he's just teasing I. And if he's actually going to do something different because that would be fantastic. But like I said before that side of the house someone winning h thank God. It's Tom like, I don't think that we would be getting much out of like a Lolo for Ricky Asia. Well, maybe it would have been a little authorized to nose. This is the best of the worst possibility. Yes, I agree. I think that if anyone who's gonna win on in the power structure, it's I'm glad it's Tom because he's been trying to to shake things up for the last couple of Vic shins and he's been unable to because he has no power. Now, he has some power. It'd be lovely. If he if you like if he was able to to shake some stuff up here he wants to talk to everyone individually coffee time. I love this idea. So adorable and he's talking to candy about how he wants to do this. But it seems like that that idea kind of gets stomped by Ricky Kato, where they they they don't know if there's huge pro to doing these coffee chat. So I don't know. We'll see those today. But I it's it's because Tom is one of the few people that actually went and watched more than just a couple of episodes. Last night. Like, I would like an like Kato and Ricky like oh who like season, they only know celebrity big, brother. That's literally the only season that they're aware actually know why would you talk to everyone individually like people tell you things like I learned something. Frustrating because like Tom has good game in sinks. And then he sits in a room with like Kato who just like funerals anything that he has to say with you know. Yes. Kato did end up spilling a lot of information to to candy like telling her what the thought process behind back during Ryan saying he's closely working with Tom just 'cause like she was talking with. And she was like, I'm not sure how feeling right now. And he was just like, oh, let me just tell you everything that I now, basically. Sending the worth second hand embarrassment watching this conversation because like Cato like like HAMAs where we're like a gather, and she's like, yeah, I know like notion, and then Tong comes in and Cato's like I told her that like you, and I were pal just so like those thoughts, please stop talking. This is just so uncomfortable for everyone involved, including the people watching at like on their life. This is bad. Tom Kato and Ricky had a conversation that you were going to where they talked about the plan for the week Kato is saying that he would like if it was candy and tame on the block, and then they backed or Ricky backdoor, Joey Ricky was pretty much on board with that. As you mentioned. There was talk of potentially making candy the target as well. And also, I feel like Ricky was maybe pushing toward hey, what if we got ta mar. So there's a lot of debate about like, basically, which of those three Tom said Dina's kind of off the table. He doesn't wanna take DNA out. So it's looking like either candy tame mar or Joey we'll be targeted. What's interesting is that again, it looks like the power is likely going to tame our unless there's a like crazy late last second surge for Joey which I doubt there will would be which. Means that taymor will have this power. And I'm still not exactly sure at this power is. But I was thinking about it more last night. And the fact that it can be used at nominations or veto ceremony. Really makes me think that it's more like Paul's. Pendant of protection, or whatever it was. Where basically the first the second you touch the block it automatically gets used that feels like that to me because otherwise there's no point in not like Tyler because Tyler had to make the decision before the thing happened which made little more inundate. There is still very little point to using it at a nomination ceremony. But at least it made a little bit of sense. Whereas if this happens after then there's zero point is absolutely no point to use it at nomination ceremony. I'm looking for logic in people who are bad at making decisions, which I disagree with their twists decisions all the time. So it might just make no sense. However, I trying to grasp at some kind of logic. It only makes sense if it just automated gets activated the second you touch the block so and then like she safe or Vito arena. So I would assume so what a him. But that means like, you know. So what I'm expecting potentially is. That candy is in about a half hour in about a half hour is going to receive this power. And then a couple hours later she's going to be nominated, and then it's going to be activated. And then she's going to be off the block. And then we're gonna end up with Joey and candy on the block, the power will be completely neutralized and. And then we're going to see probably Joey leave. Yeah. Possibly maybe candy. I don't know. I'm still I still feel like Tom identifies that Joey being around isn't the worst his game. And I have a little bit of hope that. He may be might be a little bit more assertive and push or him to stay. But I guess if the votes are locked into get rid of than he doesn't have power. I really wanna see Tom like he's so good. He's so good at you know. Letting people like do what they wanna do and kind of just like subtly putting in his inside and not being pushy and like steam early Kato is that I think that's a really great part of his game. And that's a winning quality to as well. But I do worry about him not being assertive enough when this his h in that conversation with Ricky Kato when they're having beer. He like Ricky even acknowledged he's like, oh, you keeping Joey is better for your game. And like this is your age oh age. So like not putting him on the block. So that if he like comes down, and he's not mad at you that kind of makes sense. So like I have a little bit of hope that he's not going to make decision that is not best for him. But the problem is that even if he wants Joey safe the only way to keep Joey safe is to not nominate him and as soon as tamer is safe. Joey is his only option to nominate on to to put up next to candy. And so once once Joey is up next to candy, the women will will vote them out. Not what I'm saying is like I'm worried that he doesn't have the the influence to with his alliance to get them to to take out candy instead. Yeah. So I don't know. We'll see what happens. A publicist publicist power going wrong. I can't imagine that. That's fine. Screw anything up the best power. Yes. Lone ranger in the chat. Here says has the exact wording, which doesn't exactly clear, but just in case you're wondering power of the publicist will allow the chosen how to remove him or herself from nomination at one of the next two nomination ceremonies or veto meetings. The power can only be used once and expires after the meeting on February fourth twenty nineteen whether it is used or not. So again, it just makes no sense for it to. Elected to be chosen like nobody would ever choose to use it. I lo- again people who don't understand the game might choose to use it at a nomination ceremony that I guess, but. Obviously, I think that the second March is the block either it's going to automatically be used or she's just going to come out and say, I'm using it. And then she'll be safe for the whole week or whatever. But they're essentially where if HAMAs nominates today are candy, and Joey not an I don't know that that's what he's going to do. But is there situation where the nominees are candy, and Joey and k mar uses her power like. I'm just trying to figure out is there any way that this can get used to save it would save her. But if like candy won the veto or something like that or Joey won the veto, then I guess the other one's still goes home. Right. And then they would put like like sina off or something like as on. They still send me other personnel. Okay. Well script. Base. If we want to see anything like the power is going to be flushed out this week almost almost definitely and and it's probably going to be fleshed out in a situation where the person wasn't going to go home anyway. And then. We're probably going to basically unless Tom decides to betray the five person team fun alliance. We're gonna we're gonna see either Joey or candy leave this week. Awhile. We'll waive Italy fun. It's team fun. Ricky, Tom bring us some fun today. I need it. Yes. So I mean, really I think this season we're we're just kind of waiting for everyone else to leave. So this this five-person thing can turn any. Yeah. Yeah. I guess what's the optimal Thomas? Unfortunately last season. It was they they stopped the game at around four. So our done now. Everyone else leave that would be that'd be a little unfortunate. But we'll see we'll see how it goes. So that's what we've got for you today, unless there was anything else that you wanted to bring up Jenny now that I'm though how many days of Tom H? Do we get just because em having his own room to do his his night-time stuff is just everything I could have hoped or and more true believe the next eviction is Saturday. So we're gonna get full Tuesday Wednesday Thursday Friday, that's four days plus the victim day. So it's a long one. Right. That's all I wanted as if I have to deal with someone in power. It's tom. That's great. I'm I'm happy about that you after you have to just try and find the bright spots when when the game ends up in the position at that. Right. Five days is longtime for Tom to stick to a boring plan. That's all I'm saying come on time. And he yeah, he made. I don't know. I feel like he needs to be entertained, and he's he knows what he's doing game. I just I think that he feels like maybe it's a little too early to do anything that bold. Also in so many small we can we can root for Tom to betray lines. But I don't think it's an it's best interests. And that's the thing. I probably isn't. I think that it's an his best interests though, for Joey because Joey really light on they ever good thing. So at least if you know, he ends up winning h he's in good hands that way, if he was able to keep Joey and like on the download tell Joey that he's keeping him safe. I Joey is is the kind of person who would take Tom to the end, no matter what. And so I've Tom was able to sneak Joey into the endgame, then Tom would have an extra especially if he's able to sneak Joey and Kato I think they would both take him like that. So anybody could pick Joey up that way. Joey is is very. Amenable to just like sure I'm down to work with you. I will give you all of my loyalty. Joey is not about betrayals. He's not about negative energy. If you if the first person to give him anything he will be one hundred percent loyal to and take them to the end. And so if Tom was able to do that, it would be great. And if he was able to do that without betraying his alliance this week. It would be even better. However with tame are having the power, it seems very unlikely that it's that it's going to be possible. It's too bad. Joey really does want a friend. Oh, the one thing that I actually did want quickly bring up something. I'm still not clear about what happened but something seem to happen during the HOA Jesse between Ricky and Joey. And so I I mean, it's it's not clear, but he did something to him or there was some sort of conversation and it sounded like Joey kind of backed off. But he's talking about how like normally he would talk through. It was very confusing. What what what actually happened, but he has a conversation with candy and our afterwards, and they all kind of acknowledged that. There's like the switch that flips with Ricky where all of a sudden need he kinda like goes off. So it sounds like there was some sort of tension between the two of them. While the feeds are off yesterday. Just I almost got to mention that's a thank you for bringing up very important. Note actually because. I've been talking about how Ricky had that one thing happened with Tom. But other than that, he's been totally fine. I think he could easily win in the end. However, it happened again apparently during the competition or something along those lines Joey was saying something along the lines of. I'm glad that that behavior. Didn't get rewarded. I'm glad you one Tom. You must have been like close second place or something like that just sounded like he was like he almost one or something talking about it. Ricky. My be the final to go Lolo hopes. He will be. I don't know. It's possible. If you continue if he continues to just have that flip if it happens more than you know, I really because I think that he is potentially in the best spot in the entire game to win to win the whole thing. All he needs to do is not be a jerk. But he he might not be able to help himself. Just gets cranky. Sometimes I don't know he loses. His then any just go off. But yeah. So definitely tame our and candy were agreeing with Joey that they knowledge that there's there's something with him. So I mean, he might not be as universally like this as we think, and they're still a lot of time for more of these things to happen. So I'm really interested to see what what really went on between the two of them because he was pretty upset. Yes. And just just I'm still just so disappointed in Tim. Say that again. Player. Not a player not RV down on Joey. At least it competes in the competitions. All right. Thank you everyone for joining us. Involves into their I'm at a restaurant Taryn, Jenny working people. Find you Twitter Instagram at Jenny autumn. There you go. I will. Of course, be live tomorrow morning at eleven AM eastern to update you on everything that happens today on the feeds, and we have the next episode is going to be tomorrow night. And we will be recapping everything that happens. 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Hour 1: Sergeant Plutko
"Surgut Sierra, high they're football fans living apartments and big cities sympathizing with all of you out there who want every live game, every Sunday afternoon, but who can't get direct TV where you live well, I have some good news for you. Now, you can stream two thousand and twenty NFL Sunday ticket on your favorite devices no satellite required and get every live out of market game every Sunday afternoon go online to nfl Sunday ticket DOT TV NAD to. See, if you are eligible why watch only one Sunday out of market game when you could watch all of that catch every game with NFL Sunday ticket DOT TV. You've Promo Code South Beach Twenty Twenty at checkout to save fifteen percent. That's Promo Code South Beach Two thousand, hundred, twenty, two save fifteen percent that NFL Sunday ticket DOT TV don't Miss. Any action had to NFL Sunday ticket DOT TV Today PC's Dan lebatardshow with this to got spot CASS. Got Has Fallen in love with a Cleveland Indian, we will get to that in just a second but before we get to that I want to wonder aloud with the audience because sports can be a relationship that the customer has with his sports team. It could feel emotional he or she has with their sports team where you feel like York in a bit of a relationship, I don't know how many of you in the audience are dating or how many of you even remember dating. It's been so long since people could safely date but I want you to imagine the relationship with sports right now being someone that you're dating and you can't figure out why things are just a note off. It's not just that I'm watching NBA Game Stu gods and they look like really evolved video game sometimes like even better as realistic as our video games are. Now there are times I am watching the television and the absence of things make it so that I feel like I'm watching graphic animations instead of actual human being this can't be it can't be happening just me there have to be times put it on the poll Tony Please at Lebatardshow, are there times that you're watching NBA Games and the graphics make you feel like the human beings are video game characters right now but last night Sports to got in south Florida for a long time. Have felt a little sad. But what I've gotten from my last two viewing experiences has been a little extra said one was watching the Marlins play a minor league stadium last night with no fans like the middle of Buffalo just it felt so minor league and keep in mind. This is a team that has felt so minor league for decades the buffalo blue. Jays. Great game though I mean Lewis Brinson. Almost said, hey, big to run shot to keep the marlins you know in contention. Thank you still got for nothing but the Buffalo Ballpark is incredibly sad and not just because it's in buffalo it just very minor league but when I was watching and I know this happened I know south. Florida. Is Going to recognize what I'm talking about during the Heat Pacers game there were audio difficulties at one point and all you heard was lifelong broadcaster eric read in his distinctively nasal voice clearly broadcasting from A. Sad janitors closet somewhere because all the other ambient sound got eliminated and it was just Eric Reid's voice and it was distort Stugatz where I'm listening to him talk about you know what should be an exciting game but all of the elements are gone the ambient sound the fans, his fellow broadcaster, whatever it is, they need to pipe into, make it sound like he's not an janitors closet somewhere far away from the action. was just him talking into a microphone and it made me so impossibly said because my relationship with sports is a note off and I'm grateful that it's just a note off because in that moment I was reminded Oh, wait I had already changed my expectations for how said all of this is I'm enjoying that STU gods and my father Pablo Tori or in a virtual crowd everyone allowed in. Because why wouldn't everyone be allowed in? There are no fans allowed at the game that they need to bombard us with stimuli what has replaced the home experience of t shirt cannons flying t shirts into the crowd is just an assortment of Stimuli. Tell me Mike did you were you fell asleep at halftime? So I don't even know if you bet he pacers game. Yeah. Is Me Eight forty five? Halftime. What we in Spain Chris did you did you have that reaction to eric read when the sound fell, I've gotta think all over America, this is happening with the regional broadcast where you're reminded as we try to get something that feels normal. There are so many reminders that were in the apocalypse like that make appearances to remind us when sound blows out when someone's coming to us from A. Janitors closet when the Marlins aren't playing a home game and are playing a team that is homeless and they're the home team in buffalo where they don't have Major League Baseball and the park is empty. So when a guy comes up in a dramatic moment and it's Francisco Cer- Valley who we found his Venezuelan I thought he was Italian. We all did off to a great start with three homers. Thirty four somehow I thought he broke into the League at thirty four with the Yankees. God that was I. Don't know that I've ever had an experience quite like this. Okay. The situation in that Marlins game is thus. They're down four one in the night. The blue. Jays relievers wild. Runner on the Blue Jays reliever then walks another guy on a three to curve ball. That is the single dumbest pitch I've ever throw. I've seen thrown in the major league. He could've allowed a home run. What you can't allow is that guy to get on base so that Savelli does what he did in the next at Bat, which is three Oh pitch he's hacking and nothing says dystopia an apocalyptic future like backup catcher Francisco Savelli hacking three. Oh during a pandemic and he hits a home run to tie the game four four and I don't believe that anyone in that. Sad ballpark actually enjoyed that home run they all wanted to go home because baseball is sad dopey and right now and he hit a home run to extend the game. This has to be happening all over sports to God's have. You felt this where you get sad watching a game because something reminds you wait a. Minute nothing about what's happening now is normal. Yeah. It happened to me as exciting as the PGA championship was over the weekend and it was very exciting. You had a moment on the sixteenth hole where and we and we discussed this a Monday where column Morikawa hit one of the great shots in fact, they had it right number one all time greatest shot the history Garay this while shot and the history of Golf, and there was no one. There was no sound. There was no celebration. It was just the shot gymnasts described the shot there was no reaction to the shot and yes, I've had those moments and I'm struggling what to do here would sports because of the lack of fans but certainly, yes, it is off beat but I'll take it for now. Dan, I will take. I. Understand that they'll take it. But one of the things that has to happen and I know everyone That is likes to God's Love Jim Nance on their broadcasts his style. We need to replace it with Gus Johnson during these times like during these times an emergency replacement situation where you can't get stayed starch golf announcer guy doing the show in boat shoes you need to go get somebody who's going to give the enthusiasm that you're not getting anywhere else I. It's so funny that you bring that up because I was thinking as much as I love Nancy with a crowd calling golf in that moment with no crowd the guy I wanted calling that teashop for more Kaur was Kevin Harlan that's driver right between the eyes like give me something you know how much of YOU MISS You Miss Kevin Harlan did you even realize how much you missed? Kevin Harlan put it on the poll Tony. Did you realize how much you've missed Kevin Harlan. Though idea, it's one of the. Things that happened to me throughout this pandemic that I had no idea how much i Miss Kevin Harlan until I started to listen to the Kevin it again that guy is one of the few announcers that does not eat that he doesn't need any sound behind you just need Kevin Harlan on the broadcast and what you have is excited you don't need fans in the background just because he goes and he gets the enthusiasm on his Nether region. It's like it's it's coming. It's coming up from his undercarriage. NANCE doesn't have it their Nance doesn't have anything in the undercarriage he can't go and get something extra. Few. Very few can. We we come back with God's love affair with a Cleveland. Indian out of nowhere next. Chris I've been a little jarred here recently, and we have to sort of temper expectations for everyone because the world is upside down but even by his standards, Stugatz is sports. Information Seems uncommonly flimsy. What Lewis Brinson thing was God's talking about in the first segment because I don't know how much of the game he's watched I don't know how much he's bluffing I don't at this point I have no idea like. The circumstance I, never know wants to God's lying. He's very good at camouflaging making it seem like he's watched a game that he has not watch. What was he talking about with the Lewis Brinson homerun. You care to explain yourself because I don't know what you're talking about. So watching the highlights marlins down four to one of the night the first place Marlins by the way they tied up for four and Lewis Brinson hit when I thought was a home run that ended up being a foul ball now now I'm not certain. It was Lewis Brinson at all but mattingly How are you confusing Logan forsythe and Lewis? Brinson they don't look a lot alike. OP, just going off the highlights I saw this morning again, they don't look a lot like it'd be hard to confuse Logan forsythe with Lewis Brinson although I do understand why you might not know the names of any of the marlins right now most of us don't. Totally. Fair again I did not watch the game I am totally basing this off the highlights. One of them is white and one of them is black. What is the highlight watching on a black and white television like what in the highlights is? Is telling you that Lewis Brinson hit a foul ball fair homerun and not logan foresight. The Guy who was announcing the highlights that's that that's who told me is that a fine for blaming was Jonathan Coachman. I. Don't know. I, mean whoever highlight the sport that was unnecessary by the way the weather is so bad. They just asked me my TV's asked me if I wanted to switch from hd two S D I have no idea what that even means. Pander kept initiative. Deteriorating in a way that we have to extend wide births here because we're in a pandemic and more compassionate needs to be extended, I mean four months of not having to worry about sports at all he really needed to know is what team Tom Brady is playing on now, and now all the sports are going on, it's going to give him a little bit. You gotta give them a little bit too warm up. All right I will although I am a little worried in general though how much catching up there needs to be if he can't tell the difference between white guys black guys. Matic because then you get into the next step of doesn't know whether he's watching hockey or basketball. That's not me not perhaps I heard the highlight raw perhaps the guy delivering the highlights delivered them wrong which is not a fight on me. But when I heard was it was Lewis Brinson and maybe Brits, it was on base. Hit the home run I have no idea but I'm just telling you what I heard. You know as a half watching mostly listening. I mean now it finally makes a little sense 'cause logan foresight hit the home run that was foul they called fair at first he rounded the bases went to the dugout and then they reviewed it and called it fifth foul Lewis Brinson was the last out from the previous inning and this was extra. So he was on second base so maybe that's what you're. Okay. Maybe we're going to extend to God's a wide berth here but speaking of guys that Stugatz has just been introduced to. What is going on with the Cleveland Baseball team that has made you fall in love is the name pronounced Adam Plug Co. Pluto do we know how this person's name is more fun to say so let's go with that. Yeah. Well, I don't know because Adam Politico I think we were all introduced to to Sergeant Luca this morning I this is a guy. He is Sergeant Sergeant Pluto is a wonderful nickname him. I. Don't know where you came up with that but that is wonderful. Here's a guy who what I'm sorry. I interrupted you well here's how I came up with it. If I was pulled over on the highway by a motorcycle cop and he got off his motorcycle walk to my car took off his helmet. And looked like PUPO I would not be surprised I, mean, that's the kind of guy. He is a Hunk I. Telling you this guy going to be a state trooper, a Pitcher, a Sergeant Pluto and Tony put it on the poll. Please at Lebatardshow, is anyone in twenty twenty using the word hunk to describe a handsome man because that reminds me of like nineteen seventies happy days but go ahead I'm sorry to interrupt you. So he is taking issue here with police sack and with Mike cleven jer the to Indian pitchers who after Police Acts First Victory Major League victory, he wanted to go out and celebrate in Chicago Clovinger Mike. Clovinger. At in the IT's pitcher took him out to celebrate they tried to sneak back into the hotel and they couldn't get around security with all the covert stuff and the pandemic everyone was upset the Indians were upset that these guys broke protocol. Why not try to sneak back into the hotel? Did they try? Did they try to sneak back in because I was I thought I read somewhere that one of them didn't even get back I I saw jeff pass on I. Take yesterday with Stephen a Smith and Stephen a season it wait. Are you saying one of them got back? At like three in the morning and the other one, just simply income back and all will clovinger God of the team play. Okay. So somehow, it got all the way to that we're clever jer went out broke protocol God, the t played and a lot of people are upset with both pitchers. No one more upset than their teammates Luca I, he took them to task certain Mike has this. Let's get to that sound from Sergeant Pluto than hurt us bad they lied to us they sat here in front of you guys and publicly said things that they didn't follow through on. and. It's going to be up to them It really is and all them sit here and tell you how they're going to earn their trust back. I don't need to put words in their mouths. You know the term that I continue to hear an excuse. My language has grown ass man right. So those grown asked man can sit here and tell you guys what happened. Tell you guys. What they're going to do to fix it and I don't I don't need to do that for. Good for the sergeant because it is nice to hear one of their own teammates called him out seriously they have a pitcher in Carlos. Carrasco who is battling leukemia. They have Terry Francona managers but sick for a couple of a couple of years. Now, Danny is underlying conditions at clever JER A. Kid To what my high school daughters have been able to do with the exception of Rachel went to an under armour, all American Lacrosse tournament but they've been able to sit inside by daughters for the most part and these two can't just sit in a hotel. It's absurd and I should be ashamed of themselves and I'm glad that Sergeant Pluto called about. Yes. Go ahead inside with the Sarge as you yourself are in a fourteen day quarantine go into a hot state. Yeah they're good comeback. Good. And finally, French authorities have opened a murder investigation after a thirty year. Old Corpse was fathom basement during renovations of a Parisian Mansion Abed since the mid eighteenth century that soul for about forty one point two, million dollars. The UFC heavyweight title is on the line would steep. Oh Stay. Out So hung up on the second day of the last name that as steep as the easy part. Now, what do I say chick still got earlier this week you got all the names right and stumbled on the word completed four competed I. Don't know which one you're trying to say, but you missed one of them up. Steep? Oh, MIA Chis- she. added. Daniel Corby A. Complete their trilogy at UFC TWO FIFTY ESPN plus. It's a good fight right there. You're looking forward to that one, correct. Yeah. Yes. You got very mad at me the other day because I became Bert sugar analyzing last. Hurt shoulder such a great reference I'm guessing put it on the poll at Lebatardshow. Do you know bird sugar is because? That's an old reference. It is an all he looked like an old timing newspaperman from the nineteen twenties whatever you imagine him looking like with an unlit cigar, he was always chewing. As, good references that I don't feel like the audience knows who you're talking can't wait to watch this fight given urinalysis and just concentrate fully on the right side of steep. Amyot. Side, of Daniel or you the left hand of Chit Yeah you can't give them that window CPA's GonNa. Make you pay every time found the week this sea of Cormie covers it up, and then what a steep eighty do to counter it I mean. Hera letterman became is that a better reference because bird sugars funnier visually Harold Lederman is funnier name to throw out there both of them to obscure for the joke to work okay Jim. UFC Two fifty two is exclusively available to ESPN pluses. Wherever's for sixty four, nine, thousand, nine, visit ESPN plus dot. Com backslash P P for more details for always headlines and information tune the sports already ESPN radio all throughout the day. All right. Put It on the poll. Please Tony Funnier boxing name to say funnier name comedic Louis. Birch sugar. Hera Letterman and a late entry Larry merchant ill good is well much into as a name is is pretty funny. I don't know if you can get that sound Mike of Larry Merchant I think well into his eighties threatening floyd mayweather that he was going to kick ass unfortunately, pay-per-view can't replay that but it's on Youtube folks go ahead and seek that out. If I were a younger man and it was just white-haired Larry Merchant I think close to his eighty. So us to got during pandemic. There are any number of things over the last six months here that have become illuminating where the light that is shining on some of these things is inescapable where things are laid bare in a way that doesn't have camouflage. So one of the things over the years that has made me unpopular and you will see on August seventeenth. This roster DSP and radio become Super Sports Sports Sports Sports Sports. One of the things that has made me unpopular over fifteen years is that I've been talking about the race relations as they relate to sports and beyond for a long time and it has bothered people a great deal. They accuse me all the time of pulling the race card and I'm a race baiter and I've just been someone who's talked about this stuff ad nauseam for the better part of two decades. And I told you at the beginning of the pandemic as things spilled into our street oh. My God. What I was saying was so vastly underestimated. In terms of the tensions in this country. So I was unpopular for giving voice to something that is vastly vastly worse in a way that everyone can see now the other place where it's become obvious to guts and away we can't turn back from this. We will not be able to turn back from this I thought sports. Business Greedy. I said all the time that the big disconnect between the customer and the athlete is that the customer wants to make it an emotional relationship and the athlete is like, Hey, baby this is prostitution don't get too attached. It's so much worse than I thought but. Doesn't care at all about where it season end as long as the checks cash during a pandemic like baseball, and now you see it happening college football. You see what's College football with the hearts of kids like the greed the greed you can't. We can't go back. Got It is in front of you the bare naked greed is something you will not be able to escape ever. Again, the imprint of this is not going to go away as you just see how awful the. Greed is where they will distort everything one homeless team playing in Buffalo against another minor league team because that's fielding twenty-seven janitors because they need to get to the end of the paychecks and the television, we're three weeks into the season and that other team hasn't played a home game and they played a road game in the city of Buffalo. They need to play a certain amount of games. They don't care who plays in those games. They don't care who the winner is they. Don't care who the loser is. They don't care about anything other than getting the Max amount of games that they promise to the TV networks and to the people they sold advertising to. That's it. Again, about the sports with a Z. crowd has been on us for years any time we have our wacky fixed baseball shows and we put a pond in the outfield. I mean doubleheaders being seven innings and a runner on second base already is it starts six game seasons and we'll. Just, add teams to the playoffs and you get to pick your opponent on television a special. This is stuff that we came up with years ago and then called crazy I love this gods they have taken a bat to the structural integrity of our most historic game in a way that is simply get out of our way we need to get to the bank I think Christian Yelich might hit one hundred for the season and he needs to get hot for that to happen. I haven't. You could have a postseason with the marlins involved that'd be thinking about that. But no one cares those give the games it Chris. What happened during the last segment that we were talking that you didn't come onto the air with the best of your stuff but you gave us the best stuff off air. Luca Guy Look. I don't WanNa. Be The guy that celebrating what cleven, Jer and the. Guy For the Indians did they shouldn't do there. They did. But everyone has that that during this quarantine in this pandemic is the safest of the bunch no matter what you say you did or the safe measures you took they always took one safer measure than you did and I feel like clute goes kind of being that friend here like his you better not have any any webs in his closet whatever we keeping closets. You'd better be very safe I know if I'm another Indian player. Club blee sack. They are going to watch. Sergeant Glucose every single move for the remainder the season at Christie's right. He'd better not have missed that a better not broad wait a minute. Chris is not so right because for some reason instead of skeletons, he's got webs in closets like I. Think he was going for spiders there. Yeah I. What I meant? What I? All right. Let's go. You going to fuel and here's the great thing. Here's The while. The great thing about the Cody's God's and you and everyone else who gets to win because you sit next strident noxious race baiting me. This is the tweet I get yesterday I. Think Lebatardshow needs another vacation keeping the cody's around as his punching bag for the hard network out is cheap. I love the show and I get the show and I love Dan. But I turn the show off for the first time on Tuesday because it's apparent that he has checked out. You, see all the web's in my closet sir. All the web you see. We work at ESPN WE HAVE WORKED AT ESPN for a long time. One of our favorite games to play while working at ESPN is to sort of look up and be like where did he go? You know where Jerry Rice was on ESPN for Awhile Eric Mangini was on ESPN for awhile and then they just sort of disappear I. Don't actually know one time in ESPN history felt like Gilmore and holds are the place that you went I legitimately and I mean this is no slight to Rod Gilmore. He may still work at the network doing some but he was at one point sort of our voice and face for college football and we. Asked the question where did he go and Lou Holtz popped up the other day. Stu Guts doing analysis here on the pandemic and he said we should play college football because when we stormed Normandy, there were going to be lives laws, which is just terrible as analysis like we don't need college football as badly as we need some of the things that were being fought over in wars. But that's where Lou Holtz went and Lou Holtz disorder advantage from one day to the next on ESPN, right like I I was I, was getting used to Lou Holtz is a part of my every Saturday and then he's gone. So what I want to ask you. Is a give me some of the people most jarring. In terms of you looked up one day at ESPN and they were just gone Dave. Campbell was the leathery skin of baseball for a long time, Dave Campbell, and then we look up and now we've polished up A. Rod and made him the new soup Campbell and I wanna ask you about that. But I also want to empty our Lou Holtz file. I want I don't know how big this file is. We had a lot of fun Lou, Holtz as expense because for a professional broadcaster, he's got some things that you know get in the way that are something of an impediment for broadcasting literally an impediment. So let's check this out. So Marshall usually told ricky, KATO WHO GETS TOUCHDOWN PASSES Evan Johnson put up two hundred, seventy two yards. That's Marcel record nothing to sneeze at. Added Lou Holtz Sneeze that is Reese Davis, Disney prince cleaning, up some unprofessional broadcasting I've maintain its rhesus finest moment. It's unbelievable. Let's listen to it again just so that you can hear that Lou Holtz is sneeze does indeed sound like a car horn from the nineteen twenty marshall usually it's all cato who gets the touchdown passes forty. Seven Johnson two hundred, seventy, two yards. That's a martial record nothing to sneeze. Wait a minute. This is gonNA take a while to empty this file because again I just want to sit around when the sneeze and again I want you to imagine. Okay. Everyone's dressed like burke sugar in the Great Depression America and we've just invented the car and somebody needs to get out of the way that car horn is going. Like. This need some? Marshall. Usually all routine Kato who gets the touchdown passes. Two hundred seventy dollars that's. Nothing to sneeze at. PLACES TO BE. Let's go everybody. I don't even know that they are traffic lights in nineteen twenty I don't actually know but somebody is on their iphone and they're. Looking into their IPHONE and they're not noticing that the light is turned green and right behind him. Oh. The first traffic quite. was available to to the public one, thousand, nine, hundred ten. So you're fine East Street New York City the IPHONE might be a problem given. My period piece comedy. What else do you have there from the Lou Holtz file. How many things do we have in that file? My it's overflowing Gimme a break as we approach the now. All right Do we have any frank? Kelly. Endo doing Lou. Holtz because I thought Frank Cal one of Frank Kellyanne does strongest impressions was Lou have them doing twas the night before Christmas with a Gruden Berman and Lou Holtz. Okay. So now that ladies and gentlemen is a team that is a tease in August do you want to hear twas the night before Christmas Christmas with Berman and Holtz?
Hour 3: 2019 Suey Award - Best Mispronunciation
"The dan lebatardshow podcast is presented by the capital one venture car when you are an unlimited double miles on every purchase. Your next trip is closer than you think capital one. What's in your wallet donlevatar donlevatar. I would absolutely take down my own school as a journalist. If i find out that there was financial aid problems. Where are you kidding me. I'm not hiding that story. Totally we leverage that information for money felony blackmail stugatz. He's got to be the only radio personality in america who freely admits yeah. I'd commission got it good. You got to go with all the other spots have been taken. He's like surveying the landscape on. Where can i plant my flag. I got this right. Nobody nobody else wants this. Why is there no one here. Wow this looks like such a great land. Just claim all fraud and crime worked well from d._c. Libertas show with stugatz on e._s._p._n. Radio we have the aforementioned take line to get too. I need some call notes just to give some people fulsome setup and to tell them a little bit about what it is that the starting point on this was earlier this week but i see serena williams on my television right now. Stu gods and i was marveling. We've talked much about her dominance and just the gulf between her and everyone else support <hes> she lost the first set in the second round the other day and i believe it's the first time she's ever lost set in the second round of the u._s. I believe you're right. It's the first time that it's ever happened and what happened. Next was a brutal annihilation of the poor the woman or girl. I don't know her aide was mcnally. She's a young american <hes> tennis player. She's supposed to be like one of those. Who's next type deal okay but what happened next was two sets of bazookas shots into like she was hopping away from things that were happening at our feet with a tennis ball and <hes> it's just as i watch chris evert be part of the coverage with john mcenroe. We've talked about this before the idea that <hes> e._s._p._n. E._s._p._n. Classic is a great myth destroy when you watch chris evert and martina navratilova but they are not playing the same game that serena williams is playing those are not the the things sport it's just patty cake lobbying and back and forth each other and serena williams is out there with something on her shoulder. Blowing shot shot two hundred and forty miles an hour people. It's it's amazing yeah. The game has changed. I mean martina really was the first one who started to play. A bit faster was hitting the ball a bit harder right. Martina navratilova was the gave his j.j and cocoa golf. I am telling you she's taking flushing meadows by storm right now and she hits the ball. I think harder than serena. It's it's incredible. She's incredibly agile. It's it's a hectic experience watching a fun man so we will get to the gods and the hall of fame <hes> lines in a second quick question. What does that mean taking by storm. What by storm. What does that mean or they really taking over by storm. Do you not see how high the ocean is out there and how scared everyone in south florida as an you're trying to get earlier flights out calling in a panic trying to get an earlier flight which part lord of this. You're not understanding. Storms are staring and there's nothing you can do when they arrive. They take over so we were doing khawla. The nodes talk because we're that radio show now. <hes> out of touch is not a song title. There's <hes> we were doing in hall and oates talk and we discovered that this line has two thousand calls day still the emergency call notes line. Yeah we'll call it live right now. <music> welcome to call note your emergency hall in doubt helpline to hit one on one. Please press one to hear it girl. Oh please press two to him any to please press three to hit privatize. Please press full now. This serves no practical use in two thousand and nine thousand nine hundred. It's a waste of everyone's time was calling in two thousand times a day an emergency. What if you have an emergency if you're addicted to hala notes. If you need a man eater in your life. This is always there for you always a phone call away. If your power works in your cell works because the storm hasn't taken out ruined your life so <hes> stu god heard this idea and he's like well. All notes can remain relevant like this as i descend into old age. I've got ways to descend into old age profitably as well so what is god's idea. I'm gonna call this live right now actually all right so this is live now. Okay this telephone number. We can't give you yet because stugotz his business in his practices need to run through an assortment of disney labyrinths to make sure he's not scamming every the car and who has has take koby bryant press one to take to the radar n._f._l. Came press who who has to take on hake and jerry retail press has has has to hard hats fresh five different. Ah okay let's go with one and then just advanced takes okay. We're gonna call. We're gonna it's going to get. We're gonna do this one two three four five very good. I love heck by the heck heck off. It'll be loves kobe. Kobe loves winning. Koby loves ranks gobi would have had more. I'm michael jordan shaquille o'neal getting shape and basketball as inherit land ave bryant at one point but added say off heck plays all how many points the kobe thing under the radar team. There's an under the radar team with number. Two are amo flying well under the radar. I got one for you. They play in buffalo. The buffalo bill josh allen underrated quarterback. Dave edwardson weapon their goal beasley round around tight very running back. A helmet koya aren't on. I'll cry our freshmen all shaman the file that up <hes> i did not know that there was a great need anywhere for sleeper teams but if there is to god says your team. Let's press pound and get to the next cowboys. The cowboys situation ridiculous already. I mean someone someone there's a desk and play and that's because jerry capable blink think but i imagine if i were big elliott bay get a deal done my own five about the process and i would be sitting home weeks one and we to and i'd be sitting there and i mean actively act and went running against by fred. That's my that's right. L. and i can tell on the cowboys. I start going to that i believe in you stole the not blinking jokes from my father. Does he get a royalty on this. Take line of yours. I know the next one is kind of weird because because it's not a sports team is it t._v. Show her how compassionate man i can ask. All in laboratory told me to watch a helen thought. I don't aww i thought it was something about like a tidal wave. Overtaking city people are swimming scrambling to find their loved ones and scrambling for their lives. What did i get. I do the show based uh-huh laboratory recommended. It's a love story that my wife lot and now up stuck at the napa know the catastrophe on e._s._p._n. Every aspect i mean catastrophes away i i'm okay so let's just like like go to your greatest hits just like hold on before you do this. What are the guesses on greatest hits. I mean certainly durant. Is i mean we've heard a million times so if it's something comores as immediately i'm just going to press pound and go to the next in my personal record book and ed clayton kershaw did you ever in the postseason chris paul top ten point guard ever never made it up roger federer still get into this alexander that check on al <music> kline calls made by pay. I toll free all other callers automatically be charged two dollars each button press including the initial number style to connect to this guys. Take my challenge. Each color will be charged. Fifty cents per word convenience fee for this unnecessary hysterically rank the n. word description of the fees they will be unfairly charged for calling and still guys take line at still stale takes you have heard him. Give a thousand times. The i eighteen fifty fifty it stole my father's day or in a con- staring are in god does and neither one of them zeki. Jerry jones is blinking because jerry jones's heads much surgery on his face that he can't link stole that i mean i kind of advanced it. He had this dairy god does then i helped them out with the jerry judge blake but listen we digress here. I will gladly the league hobby some royalties because i love it i do. I'll give them royalties. Poppy holidays just like me our final. Sui award is going to to be next best mispronunciation. We've been telling you about keeps traditionally. That is a category that god's dominate sir. We've been telling you about keeps and keeps will allow you to keep your hair. That's the way it works. If your thinning you want to hear more about what's god's has to say tell them yup the <music> scott scotty. I'm so tired scotty scott. I was trying associate through god's with i just like miss. The middle part of stugatz getaway scottie the laws things time the play prevent defense with keeps keeps up. You save your hair without ever leaving your couch. I like scotty. Condemn attorney joe scott change. The rest of the scottie scottie tiered anytime <music>. I'm one in four car. Batteries is about to fail so think ahead and get yours tested for free at advance auto parts. 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I have to have a testicular ultrasound. How does this work. What do i have to do with whom mm-hmm into the room walks bear of a man. He's been dealing with testicles for damn near three decades. I'm terrified stugatz. I have to get on my back. Throw my legs up in the air. Where's my left hand. Go yeah. I need to cup my package. I'm saying to myself as i'm doing this. It can't get worse. Listen this. He looks me straight in the eye for the first time we're about to get started and he says i am such a big fan of your t._v. And radio shows dude. That's the a time you choose to tell me that but you're laughing. I am laughing. I'm also mystified. I'm vulnerable. I'm still scared. It sounds like he had a ball. B._c._c.'s live at our show. Oh with stugotz on e._s._p._n. Radio i'd like to claim that in honor of our final sui category are are annual awards show here that i mispronounced do god's name as some version of scott because i wanted to honor the category. Unfortunately it's just because i'm incompetent in tired here. It is our final sui award which is mispronunciations. I'm from the last year and now the sui nominees for best mispronunciation. Stu gods says recent region four nice nice socks saks careful careful compensatory competent tori copyright copy irrelevant irrelevant gallaraga y'all garage party ordering alma mater alma mater fraudulent fraudulent. If you want to attend attend the quality stella artois stella or thomas stephen a smith says to tongo loa woah taco tago from hawaii okay. I would've thought that there were more than that. I honestly want to hear it all over again. I would like for you to play that again because it would be amazing raising. If even one what is clearly god's the loaded got discomfort now. The sui nominees for best mispronunciation stugatz says recent region four robert nice socks sad careful careful compensatory competent tori copyright copyright copyright irrelevant irrelevant gallaraga gal gaga party harboring alma mater alamada amount of fraudulent fraudulent. If you want to attend you wanna quality cog stella artois stella hello or stephen. A smith says talk of tago from hawaii. It seems to be a two man race every last. One of them is great deal everyone every last one of them deserves to win. There should be no losers air quality cob. That's amazing. I i wanna go johnny msci right now. Just call and ask him what it is that he thinks that is that stu gods is trying china saying it's the sound of the day that's what it is brought to you by my computer career dot e._d._u. Draining for a better life and now i fought from from geico motorcycle. It took fifteen minutes to take a spirit animal quiz online. Please be the cheetah the cheetah and learn your animal isn't the cheetah but the far less appealing blob fish <hes> come on glad insult to injury. You could've used those fifteen in blood fish minutes to switch your motorcycle insurance too geico geico fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more on motorcycle insurance donlevatar taylor in the show. The question was asked. What would you do with one invisible day. It's got one day where he could be invisible. We decided that during banking hours you would choose a week day. He would rob all the banks in the universe verse from eight to five and then tonight he would alter sporting event results being invisible man in games he had bet on these live at our show with on e._s._p._n. Radio so our beloved gear mo- went out and took photographs with butch davis was all excited sided about the season <hes> and last night you lost <hes>. Was it lane or tulsa that you lost to buy a lot to lane a bit of a step back but it's just the first game of the season. I'm telling you mark my words ten win season this year after losing last night forty two to fourteen ten win season you know oh this extenuating circumstances there dan ten win season mark. My words can instead of marking your words. Can you give me the extenuating circumstances a hurricane coming everyone's worried about it and we were playing playing the <hes> green tied or green wave or green something right and what is it called something green wave so yeah we're prepared and it was a very sloppy end of the first half. If if you don't mind me saying this is what happened so you take the ball back. They force it downball nothing at the half now dan it was twenty one to seven at the time and end the green wave green something green something. They were driving forces. A turnover recovers the fumble right very nice play captain morgan. The quarterback winds up to throw along when downfield boss slips out of his hand. They ruled that his hand was not going forward. At the time green waiver covers the ball a couple of plays later touchdown twenty eight two seven and it was over from there is his his name is he the captain or his name actually captain his name's james morgan okay captain morgan that would have been such a great name morgan. That's correct. What was the final score gore the relevant. You mentioned the detail marathon billy exactly first season dan come on. How many times have we been here before. Good perspective deli. Oh in one often so tony romo is asking evidently for stu gods. He is evidently according to reports asking to become the highest paid broadcaster ever ten million dollars a year. You go get it because because i kind of think he's gonna get it here i do they tony romo has he's been such a big deal been so good and really stood out in a place where it's hard to stand out that someone is going to offer for an here's the reason it's fascinating to me right because he has been a guy who has gotten a lot of attention and brought brought a lot of positive publicity to <hes> to the broadcast a broadcast that has grown largely stale c._b._s. c._b._s. C._b._s. is sort of cover your couches with <hes> you know stuff old people they share demographic is just perpetually old people for c._b._s. C._b._s. in every way and tony romo has brought them not only a lot of great publicity but he's done so as the hot new young thing which c._b._s. Never gets to to be at anything however. I believe if there's a game you wanna watch on c._b._s. You don't care whether it's tony romo or the seats empty. I believe you will watch. What's that game on c._b._s. And so i don't know where you put the value on tony romo the empirical business value on tony only romo when you've already paid for the rights fees that bring you football share. I don't know why you would be cheap on something like football given the amount of money that football brings your network. It's such a great point. You get to watch the game regardless of who's watching. If you wanna watch a game and get to watch a game mike have you gone out of your way to watch tony romo game because i i can't believe tony you're saying you have i have. I love tony romo really really mike. I think look look at the time sought that they have. It's undenied football. There's no other competing game but oftentimes you have the late c._b._s. Game going directly up against the fox game and there are probably some people with without the sunday ticket without red zone that have to make a choice which game are they going to watch more and they might be inclined to pick the commentators that they like more. You think that that is is an appreciable figure. Whatever that number is enough to ask the question because jon gruden was paid here replace million dollars <hes> and one thing that shocked knocked me was john madden at his height was paid eight million dollars a season which was more than any football player was making per season during that time the it's so funny with madden and because all the games i watch he was great. He was also maybe the best to ever would've watched those gains anyway. One of the one of the interesting things is <hes>. I think the n._f._l. Deal is up twenty twenty twenty twenty one and amazon's trying to get in the game so if you're trying to establish credibility if you're a new platform for something like that he could certainly it'd be apply. The amazon thing is interesting because foot paul does a fairly extraordinary job of creating revenue streams streams more and more revenue streams you see they're talking now about adding playoff games and removing preseason galea because nobody's the i mean nobody that is a futuristic and football is treating the preseason games with the resp- with with any respect of delaying their starting quarterback you got jared goff hasn't played a snap. You've got philip. Rivers hasn't played a snap. You've got aaron. Rodgers hasn't played a snap and you have fans paying for which had a problem right and and so if you can make those playoff games with stakes instead of preseason games of course everyone would root for that because it's more or football right up until you consider no. You're going to give the tennessee titans more of a chance to be intimate. You're going to give them more of a chance to be in the mix like it's going to be a really diluted form of playoff football so mike and i were talking about this yesterday. Because i brought up the point you have years where wildcard teams or eight seven and nine even and so you might have more of those teams might did make a point where you also have years where there are ten and sixty do not make the playoffs in an eleven and five new england patriot team headed by matt cassel doesn't make the playoffs so yes. There's obviously more room for the titans. Tighten up get excited. You have more of a chance if they expand the playoffs and you'll see plenty of that but you will see some good teams that are been shut out in better years and the thing that they're eliminating right is that the two seed would no longer have a by right the two seat in each conference would would not have a by so the only by would be going to <hes> the number one seed in each conference and we told you earlier this week that since two thousand and ten there's only been three teams that haven't played in the wildcard eld card round. It's the browns. It's the buccaneers obvious right because they've been terrible and it's the patriots. The patriots never play. That's an amazing instead. It really is the browns had a wildcard game against christopher matsumua it since two thousand ten on us since two thousand come on we we had a two years the game that was well done by that name last year. The steelers at nine six of one would've made the playoffs under these new rules and the n._f._c. would have been we would've loved to have seen the steelers in the playoffs. I would have been exciting again though the titans are always out there lurking in the mix i did you guys see the reports here unless something's something's changed in the last twenty four hours. It's not certain whether mariota is going to be a game time decision but he will be but we we do know that this time it's not because he's doubtful because his entire body is falling apart and pieces. He's doubtful or he's up in the air for the opener because ryan tannahill is legitimately challenging <hes> marcus mariota as we continue to play this shell game of quarterbacks that you pay eighteen million dollars to be the same. It's the spiderman me with those two. Although spiderman is like a huge compliment he's not that hero. What's a bargain basement hero like a blank man meam. Oh in that movie do you have a you have a quarterback controversy. If the quarterback competing for the starting job or ryan fitzpatrick and josh rosen do you have a quarterback controversy if the quarterbacks competing for the job or ryan tannehill and marcus mariota also that's not a controversy quarterback controversy was when michael vick was killing dogs logs. I mean this is a quarterback decisional heavy just an angel like why is it a controversy controversy okay. What's what's the controversy. What controversy is ryan fitzpatrick ever been a mean. Did i get it wrong on storm. The origins of storm as a verb visit is it storming a castle and not a storm approaching. Did you look it up in order to be correct <hes> and to laugh in my face. Now i just kind of took. The word of everyone in this room was yeah. That's what it's from eta boy all right. Put it on the pole guillermo at lebatardshow <hes> to storm something. Does it come from storming gazal or does sitcom because storms are terrifying because all of us are rattled right now. Mike ryan just said hey get all your good opinions out there. They'll be the last ones in this studio. <hes> <hes> because the ocean has risen outside of us people are fighting in the street. I just saw email sent an email sent by city commissioner saying hey <hes> beware of flying scooters. It's a new take those on a piece of debris flying scooters. That's right as you drive to the airport today. Beware of flying scooters now when people on them. I hope i hope not with people on them but i don't. I don't know what to do with whether or not out hurricane proof glass is hurricane proof when it gets hit by flying scooter. It's like a bizarre version of the wizard of oz the witcher whatever the neighbor on the bike just kind of bribing riding away even as he's lifted thousands of feet of into the sky i i've seen some horrible videos. <hes> south florida's filled billy. Did you just try and kick me out all right. Go go ahead. I mean go sit in the penalty box. Billy wow five hundred major go things one book and i looked like i saw i saw the looking mike i but you moved on as if wow i really died it could get minute looking breath destroyed or whatever talk every time it is strange that for a professional broadcaster he is so often just not understanding when to talk and when not to talk he's always here always around tame free time for some ads ductless scooters as projectiles is what i have here. Are you going to hunker down. When are you gonna do this weekend. I don't know what to do. You wanna come to my house. I mean it's up in orlando. Your house seems to be closer to the cone than my house is at the moment but my house is right on the ocean and there's nothing to block anything coming out. There ain't even scooters between my house in the ocean and that's bad given the ocean outside is higher than i've ever seen it. You would go to a stranger stats before you went to my house right. Is that fair air. That is fair. I want soccer down with. I will tell you right now that i if things get panicked enough i will just go to the twitter account and be like like hey any of you. Can i come to your house with my father. We'll just do the show there. Would you go to a shelter. I i would go anywhere. You got our president location which is l. I mean listen. You're invited just so you know. It's an open invitation in case you rethink. Thank thank you because you know what it is with god's walk and he's gonna sue is going to be doing a show for me all weekend. If that's the way that one works to me all the time. I sat down at lunch. What did you bring up. This is how it happened. The other day after god just pelts me all show with his a._d._d. And just nonsense all show. I go to lunch with the crew and as i'm sitting at the table. What did you say to me as i sat down. You said you gave some take. As soon as i sat down. Oh i forgot all it. It was on it was it was it was top ten position nicknames. I can get the list of things i wanted then and i don't i wanna know i just sat down. What do you mean position nicknames. These teams that position nicknames like the sack exchange and he was listed in the all time top set and it was fantastic. I mean donlevatar. It's friday. I'm getting into the weekend. I want to get my drink on cuttings. Gonna open up the club open it. I wanted innate open now but is the computer buffering there is this is our show oh with scott on e._s._p._n. Radio at lebatardshow on twitter. If you want to vote on any of the polls from today billy how are you doing you filled with with <hes> fear. We are headed into a weekend of uncertainty. This storm is bearing down on florida and it appears to be one of the hostile ones where are you. Where's your head at. This is a situation that i didn't think i would encounter and i was discussing with him to it. Here's the thing i prepared. I am prepared. I have my supplies but i now have four days between this and the storm so i'm going to spend the whole time thinking. I'm not prepared and over preparing even more even though i'm fully prepared at this time but i may not be prepared because i need to go through a checklist to make sure that i did miss something because i know that i've missed something yep. You're not gonna feel so prepared when you're hiding in your bathtub because it's the safest place in your house is it should have had in the bathtub. It's supposed to be what they say supposed to be. My biggest issue is that i'm going through all the provisions that i've made to eat for the hurricane. I'm going through <hes> some hunger yeah well. What if i was filled with water. Do i still get in the bathtub. No don't you keep it empty and it's safe to fill with water do you. Your roof fills up on the roof. Blows off your house at lebatardshow on twitter twitter before we open up the club. Actually we're out of time here so we'll just throw some polls in among whatever noises my decides to play whatever sounds mike decides sites play. The twitter poll when i get to is brought to you by dollar shave club dollarshaveclub delivers the products you use the look. It's your best right to your door was with their hands and discount the more you buy the more you save go to dollarshaveclub dot com slash dan special offer itself scott gonna be so so tragic when billy drowns in his own back of water during the hurricane i sound in the club me and surrender ten sacks dolphins against revolt is revolt revolt a six and a half point favorite eighty seven percent of the audience said yes tell them scott yup and tell them tell him yup have any of the teams at cincinnati but any goods if the big red machine eighty five percent of the audience that now ida crush on betty rubble so many people writing in about the chris sabo reds and we forgot about the red eye <hes> they did win a world series. We're not the only one eighty five percent of the audience that now are you surprised that tim kirch and just described himself outfits that swarthy mediterranean look. I'm a sixty seven percent of the audience that yes there's the pro hoops sandwich which may not have been the lakers top choice but he was certainly number. Two does to storm something come from storming a castle or an approaching store. I bet billy as a sprinkler of course no who is it off camera ch- chester's eighty the eight percent of the audience that gas congratulations jay girl. 'cause you're fly girl. You're still apply girl periwinkle the blue plate. You've heard that of course mike ryan is brad pitt in the movie cherry michael blue cast menas dog because it's one of the dumbest animals ever seen. Thanks for having me have a great day yet. It's i mean who else in the club. Honestly the those are seconds of my life. I would never get back boylston. Send a plumber. I <hes> fist pumped in a bar on the donald duck club. I wish i had some breakfast blonde biz bond at a breakfast like bats. I has contaminated everything. We've done this week friend of mine <hes> mother of minneapolis. I'm a name earnings mimi. She always hasn't had those whenever she gives a tad. There was like that when i got you so marshall usually told ricky kato did touchdown passes. Evan johnson put up two hundred seventy two yards. That's marshall record nothing to sneeze at yeah. Well lou goodbye.
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"The dan lebatardshow podcast is presented by the capital one venture car when you are an unlimited double miles on every purchase. Your next trip is closer than you think capital one. What's in your wallet. These is the dan lebatardshow. We've got spot cass now. You've decided to be light with the. I dea of an approaching hurricane now after spending all morning. Are we going to be here monday and tuesday and not here at work. I mean just here on the planet miami going to drift off into the sea. <hes> roy bellamy last night experience. The south florida fun on that is panicking gouging. If our football teams played the way that people panicked and gouging do <hes> we would have in the the last twenty years decent football things to talk about instead. We're talking about whether josh rosen or ryan. Fitzpatrick should be the the quarterback back for the miami dolphins. I love and this should indicate to you guys how far behind the dolphins and everyone in the a._f._c.'s has been and will be again this year because the patriots treats have the weakest quarterbacks of any schedule in the n._f._l. That they're playing against because they get to play against the ones in this division all the time and the ones in this division are always ryan fitzpatrick for the bills ryan fitzpatrick for the jets ryan fitzpatrick for the dolphins but maybe this year josh allen takes a big step forward. Maybe sam darnold arnold takes a big step jay okay and continuing to chase <hes> maybe the a._f._c. east is something to get laughed after that beyond the patriots but i think it's funding that the forward thinking teams with all of these make could bay clones people who look alike like the flu <hes> all of these is they're not paying playing aaron rodgers a snap now jared goff's offs not playing a snap philip rivers isn't playing a snap ryan fitzpatrick more snaps than any quarterback during preseason it takes them longer and by longer longer. I mean twenty years to figure out who their quarterback is going to be than any other team in the sport. There's a battle going on those other places. They know who their starter is. Gonna bay those battle going on. It's kind of battle. What kind of battle is that. Josh rosen can't play. He can't beat out ryan fitzpatrick in week. One even understanding that you throw the first two games with patrick because you kind of tanking their difficult games and you wanna give rosen easier games <hes> the rest of the schedule the dolphins just an unending embarrassment as they sit here and talk about trading for damian dave clowning and the the asking price is laremy tunsil old marijuana marijuana smoke mask ask gas mask and now you hear that if they trade tunsil the dolphins will revolt and i'm here to tell you that if the dolphins will revolt they will lose that revolt to whomever is on the schedule like they're not going to win any revolts trying to defend laremy. Tanya revolts a six and a half point neighbor. Put it on the poll. Guillermo lebatardshow pam revolt dolphins against revolt is revolt a six and a half point favorite but you don't need to worry about cloudy because the reports or the cloudy does not want to be here in miami why because the team's lasy and there are no easy games for the dolphins is. I can't believe you said that they're all difficult. I didn't say he's against for the dolphins. I said they had hard games. <hes> heart on the front of their schedule and then the easier ones are what follow but before we get to any of that because billy is crazed in panic and again roy had all sorts of trouble <hes> <hes> all sorts of trouble getting anything hurricane-related we'll get to his misadventures in a second but billy in his craze and hispanic spent the entire time before the show <hes> talking about this idea he has when you have a quarterback battle. I didn't think we were gonna get here on the why are you crossing your arms in frustration because of what a terrible idea is not only was it a terrible idea but there were so many holes in it when when he was work shopping this before then i thought no way we go into national with i mean i was trying to work with them and i'm willing to still work with him on this but mike is right there. Mike is wrong and i'm a visionary okay accepted people. This is what people thought of benjamin franklin when i speak benjamin franklin used to speak on things if you were like this guy benza a kook and it's like oh no he's on a hundred dollar bill now guys. Here's the thing i mean engine when your team has a q. battle like the dolphins have right now q._b. Bad i'm just trying to save time here and not have to explain it so shortening things a q._b. Battle q. battle when your team is what's the best way to figure out who can handle the situation better. Are you put them in similar situations right however they're not in the exact same situation until teams start doing this. This is what team should start doing wait. What did you just say it but instead of this and then coming around and then saying this is what this is. Why don't you just say it. I mean you went to try ryan. Get this is just tell us all right. This is what you do you put two senators and two quarterbacks on the field at the exact same time same number receivers same number of linemen and have them hiked the ball the exact same time and then give them two different colored balls if you want and then you see which quarterbacks making the right decision faster because two balls will be flying potentially at the same receivers and and you'll find out who got it there quicker identified the man faster oh this person through it to the wrong guy. He's not seeing what he's supposed to be seen right now if there's two centers and two quarterbacks on the field at the exact same same time with the same number of receivers linemen. There's no way that any outside factors could impact. Who's making the right decisions so it's a raise the throw the ball i i liked the different different colored balls though it's not even a race. I have saved it. We're trying to figure out who makes the right decision. Not the quickest decision because sometimes you can throw the ball what if he throws was it into covered the guys covered boom. It goes down but the play keeps going because another quarterback softball boom down the field. He burned the corner wide open touchdown. He made the right decision. You know they do this all the time now they they had never seen one practice where there's two centers and two quarterbacks on the field that the exact same time they don't need to fill every practice now taking taxation play eleven lebanon eleven and they do it side by side and evaluated the same way that you know twenty two don't do mike what they do is what billy is saying which is have two quarterbacks throwing the same football or different football right different footballs at the same receiver and whoever's ball gets there first that was is the quicker better decision if they are indeed throwing the same exact receiver cause the receivers gonna drop the second ball unless antonio brown receiver shouldn't go after the second ball that quarterback snoozed he lost patience was the ripe lie there well then the ball will get someone with inside of the patient. I'm telling you the other way you do it. There's was always outside. Circumstances that affect the result talked to any scientist all right. There's always a control. This aspect removes any circumstances throwing throwing this off whatsoever because everybody's doing the exact same time well. Here's the thing you've got one guy on the right hash one guy off the left high so it's going to be a further throw for one of the two guys because they're not gonna throw oh the same receiver going one way or the other right. Well guess what aunt the ball's not always in the same spot on the field. That's football figure it out q._b. I billy was also complaining. He was also complaining that there was too much in the way of sports <hes> last night <hes> loaded there are too many sports all right. We don't need to talk about this now but there's too many college football baseball tennis. I mean what about friday we saw friday. We have wednesday. You could split these things up a little bit. How am i supposed to watch every college game anne every n._f._l. Game it's too much you just rusty because you haven't had enough saturdays in your life when you been watching all of these games i they did like a couple of things that happened last night including a quote from tyler huntley who plays for utah about b._y._u. When he said <hes> there so pooh-pooh do you can tweet that so that's the new that's the new you can quote me. You can tweet that. They're so poo. Poo is what you got you got. Charlie whitehurst was at the quarterback for b._y._u. You've got charlie whitehurst saying that <hes> the georgia detect turnover instagram board is <hes> the most embarrassing thing that he has ever seen on a football field charlie whitehurst. <hes> you know is one of our our favorites. He should have played quarterback in the n._f._l. Riding around on a white horse shirtless <hes> what is this thing he's talking about though because while i watched watched clemson totally dismantle i saw i saw that they had a couple of interceptions that they've thrown and they were still winning twenty eight nothing at halftime because they in alabama so much better than everyone else. That's what that's him looks like when their quarterback doesn't play well. I'm in they are menacing and they lost four or five guys on the defensive offensive line and they showed no signs of it last night because the defense was amazed did did not an average twenty yards a carry last night against georgia tech. What thirteen carries twelve carries for two hundred plus yards. He's good. He's fast. I'm pretty sure they're so pooh-pooh was on the maxwell award. Watchlist donlevatar texter writes into god's looks homeless today. If i saw him walking down ocean drive i would give him five dollars stugatz. Thank you these easy. This is not live with our show with two guys on e._s._p._n. Radio so the people who are producing our show outside of the show <hes> notice thing sometimes that we do not notice and they have noticed what they believed to be a glaring omission from our best musical performance ui category and they are right when they say <hes> that brett hull was wrongly snubbed for all all his drunk <hes> drunken jocularity after winning the stanley cup champions laurie every larry larry. Can we include it because i think it would win. I mean i it was not included and so it's not a part of voting. It was just one of these. He's <hes> oscar snubs that his controversial and we're not quite ourselves today. I'm gonna tell you why i just dragged mike into our television studio and i asked him very seriously the question. Do you remember seeing the ocean that high before where up to the street it it looks very high looks like soon. It'll be over our heads because we're right on. The ocean king tied this weekend. Which is the highest tide of the year ear sub optimal for hurricane roll into town. When it's king tie i gotta tell you phil farrow and the local weather people down here. They have one because my wife is terrified terrified and away. She's never been terrified before they've won. They usually obvious calm cool collected. She wasted to the last minute then we decide what to do. She's telling me she wants to fly lie anywhere right now. So you haven't formally announce it. We're not going to be on the air on tuesday but considering projections right now. I feel like that's just that. It's a bad hurricane. It's that it's one of these. He's stubborn. Gonna just sit here for a while. Things that is going to stay around. Does <hes> roy experience the worst of south florida last night as i i mean there are people you're driving in the street and there's a guy with a with a pool cue like waving it. Menacingly at another person wants to steal his water water. Being charged urged twenty seven dollars for a bottle what happened yesterday roy. When you were wandering around well my wife and i were discussing how xactly we're going to prepare for this hurricane and then when she she got home last night from work is nine forty five and she says to me go get some hurricane stuff five. That's how she decided to prepare for the hurricane. Thanks to go out and get some hurricanes. Yes so am i. I'm going to walmart what is cleared out. Everything's cleared out and i basically just focused on getting diapers for claire and stuff like that. No she text me to get some salmon from cosco so i gotta go to costco salmon and that place zoo zucca everyone's buying plywood but i assume that salmon's fine because if you don't have power the last thing you want your frigid salmon plug lord. We're about to have a whole bunch of salmon roll up in studio with how high that ocean is out there. We got gas was was it crazy. We went to all right. It was in miami gardens. Asians are empty right and i had success little haiti. The <hes> the weather terrorists have won. I do believe wants to god's is saying is correct for many many years. They have been telling us. I mean we've lived down here a long time. They they tell us they warn us but we see amazon rainforest on fire we see the destruction puerto rico and that it seems like the destruction is a little hell bent on being extra destruction coaching everywhere that it arrives and now this cone that was a tropical depression while now they're saying hey category twelve and we're like wait a minute. What is that because it's climbed up up to four when no one was looking and feels like no one knows anything and they've just put the cone over the entire southeast united states. It's category four but when the weather other people say cat for it's a lot more alarming right like you get really nervous when they start going cat forty. Five is the worst correct. The worst is cat. Five and andrew was said had to be like even on the high end of five and rector good portion of south florida. Let's be responsible right now. It's a category two now. It's going to be a category seventeen by the time it gets here. I five minutes but right now. It's a two don't panic. There's no surviving that and your kids die to billy. I want you to go outside. I want you to look okay at that ocean. I just want you to tell me if you've ever seen the ocean that high down there. Can i do from the window a lot shorter walk right. Now you can do it is when i send you off into the ocean usually takes you a long time. It appears to incrementally encroached a little bit closer to watch <hes> this is outside so got fifty or storm. Oh boaty sudan's here at anytime what in four car batteries is about to fail so think ahead and and get yours tested for free at advance auto parts. It won't cost a dime to make sure you are not any twenty-five percent who could be stranded in a mall parking lot some spooky cookie woods or even worse at your in laws if your battery is weak advance as batteries that deliver more performance and starting power in extreme conditions gadd advance only at advance auto parts bolers is making a tiny anticipated return to h._b._o. On august twenty fifth dwayne johnson returns as spencer stress more the retired football star about to face is biggest challenge yet also starring golden globe nominee john david washington with guest stars like odell beckham junior and other celebrities and athletes even russell brand returns is the c._e._o. Of sports x. and extreme sports media company the stakes have never been higher spencer tries to leave his past behind and reach the highest levels of the sport. It's not where you start. It's where you finish bothers. Air sundays at ten thirty pm only on h._b._o. Here's dan libertad. It's still the team coaching on e._s._p._n. Radio e._s._p._n. Radio is presented by progressive insurance quote bides avon home insurance with progressive new <unk> homequote explorer at progressive dot com. Tim kirch are going to join us just a second here on the shell pennzoil performance line. Here's your sportscenter update. Cocoa golf at at fifteen years old became the youngest woman to advance to the u._s. Open's third rounds. It's anna kournikova did twenty three years ago. Jews amazing josh gordon returned from suspension with two catches for thirty yards on six targets in the patriots lost to the giants and finally netflix is responsible for fifteen percent of global internet traffic for all the latest headlines and information tune into sports center on e._s._p._n. Radio all throughout the day. If you wanna talk to tim kirk sean if you want in baseball <hes> information or knowledge perspective or you want just questions of etiquette and decency seven eight six four five six four eight three seven. When is the telephone number. That's how you get a hold of him. He'll take just about any question. I'm curious kurkin because i remember back in your early early days. You covered the hell different time in america different time in baseball you covered the hell out of the baltimore orioles and what has it's happened to that franchise in the last ten years as the yankees and red sox do their thing. Does it hurt you. Can you explain it first of all because they've been just an abomination but beyond that does it hurt you with someone who cares about that organization well. I'm not rooting for or anyone no it doesn't hurt me and as a kid when i was growing up and senator for my team and orioles killed them every night every time they played so i i had no affection for the orioles growing up and when i covered the team i didn't know i have friends who work there. I have friends who are big orioles fans. Dan and yes. I feel for them. Yes i feel for an organization that was so beautifully run for so long. Dan go back can look at the nineteen seventies what the orioles did in that decade. Oh my god they were so good for so long and really sixty six to eighty three so good so when you compare to that yes i guess i feel sorry but <hes> these last couple years have been really bad and i don't think they're going to get better anytime soon. Timmy was christian yelich supposed to be this. I know he was supposed to be good player but this kind of power hitter no you. You guys talked about about this. You know guys were in south fort and i heard it. He's never gonna hit twenty homers in a season well. Everybody has twenty homers now. We know that but no one expected him to forty. You might hit fifty no one i. I don't think anyone saw him as an m._v._p. Any anytime but he has a beautiful swing he always has the power came as he got bigger understood what he was doing but no. I don't think anyone saw him being this good but this is here to stay for a while <hes>. This is not some two year barrage. This guy is a great great. Hitter does bud seelig looked like the villain in a claymation movie joe. You're on what tim kirk chin on e._s._p._n. Radio go ahead joe. Hey tim why in twenty nineteen or professional athletes playing in a button down. I felt and long pants to question <hes>. I've never understood the belt part for a major leaguer we we should just have the you know the spandex waistband. You don't need a belt play major major league baseball button-down are still interesting to me. I kinda liked them. 'cause you can open them up a little bit <hes> and the long pants are necessary. Remember ever the seventies the white sox or short pants as part of their uniform briefly and it looked absolutely preposterous so <hes> i. I'm okay okay with uniforms but i get rid of the bell. One of the worst uniforms in the history of the sport is it <hes> greg lazinski a white sox uniform that was short yeah. I think the white socks shorts were just about as bad as i've ever seen <hes> the padres uniform that made them look like u._p._s. Drivers were that was not good either. <hes> the those would be the top of my list for the worst uniforms and even though major league players look good in short she just don't look good when you're wearing spikes and santa's and syrup and short just not good luck tim what's the deal with the player's weekend uniforms and why is it that it's okay for them for one weekend to kind of express themselves with like bats in their cleats but the rest of the season the league doesn't really embrace stuff like that well. I like the weekend for the players. I like the nicknames. I like it. When they're clever nicknames to this week this one was terrible. Though oh because the white uniforms you couldn't even see the clever nicknames on the back of the uniform. That's what ruined players weekend. This time was the white uniform. It's just couldn't see <hes> and i think it should only be one weekend at year because when people go watch players play and you have this major leaguers you need their name on the back to know who the player is and if you have nicknames. You're not gonna know who the player is. In some case does phil mickelson looked like the uncle at your wedding who says he just needed some air as he returns to his table with a visible vomit stained down the front of his tuxedo uh-huh david. You're on with tim kirch in go ahead david. Hey tommy boy <hes>. I was just curious about your skincare regimen. I was watching the baseball game. My buddy knows you have beautiful beautiful skin so tell me more please thank you. I have beautiful skin. That's how that that that's the first for me <hes> i. I don't know that's swarthy. Mediterranean look being half armenian. I guess that's it <hes> with tan easily in my family as do all armenian so that might might explain it but i i certainly don't do anything special for my skin. I never put anything on anywhere hair where i put something on my hair so i don't looks like a porcupine but i don't do anything with my face other than shave. It and i hate doing that. Can you put it on the poll plays. Are you surprised that tim kirk action just described himself as that quote swore the mediterranean look. I should've never said that instead that was or maybe laugh so many times head swarthy mediterranean look and that was thirty turn years ago. He said that i never repeated that. I'm sorry why the definition for swazi just. I want the form no no no no. I'm asking see though to do asking the shipping container to defined. I because i want swazi to be defined skin. That's i hope it gets me dark skin because if it meets a handsome <hes> editor radio and that's completely false and i didn't mean that it can be an olive skinned mark. You're on with tim kirk said go ahead mark. Hey todd quick question. If i'm putting lights here earphone my pancakes. Should i be eating syrup and it's matt harvey got a shot of a good relief pitcher. No i think matt harvey. He's done as a good pitcher. In the major league the window was open. He walked through it or got through it and now it is shot and i think it is shut for good the pitch again in the big league but i don't think it matters the role he just isn't what it used to be for a bunch of different reasons <hes> and i'm okay with light light syrup <hes> i'm okay with light a lot of things but if you're gonna eat pancakes you might as well use the full octane syrup. If you're going to go that far does will cain look like the co worker who thinks he's better than you because he brushes his teeth and the office bathroom does is julie. Foudy looked like the mom of your friend brad does leuke cly looked like the bust of a roman senator kevin you're on with tim kirk said go ahead kevin. Hey tom <hes> so bryce race. Harper is an opium of over one thousand runners are on base and his opium is under seven hundred with no runners on base though if you ever seen anything like that or if there's an explanation for that discrepancy <hes> again with baseball the best part about it is there's no explanation for so many things that go on in the game i can't tell you i'm anne times. I've asked the player. Why is this in the answer that oh 'cause. It's baseball bats. The answer and i don't think he says look look. I'm bored. There's nobody on base and his his intensity is i know he's intense with no one on and maybe more so with runners on base but it doesn't make make any sense that he's good with runners on and this bad or not this good when there's nobody on josh you're on with tim kirk. Go ahead josh any time. I'm just curious about <hes> the nets that they're going to put up around the field. I feel like it's gonna take the game as far as foul balls or even like the cool plays ah we've seen derrick jeeter do when he goes in the stands mixed field <hes> i'm just wondering what you think about that yeah and i totally understand that and i sit in the press this box and i'm not buying any tickets any games and i'm not looking to get anybody's autographs. I understand it would take away to some degree from the fan experience france and the the fans. We've lost it baseball. We have to do everything we can't keep them. I understand all that. I i just afraid when i go to a game mm-hmm. I cringe every single time i go to a big league game and see a ball traveling over a hundred miles an hour a ball that hard you are defenseless bliss against. It and i'm just trying to protect the people who go to the game. I think safety is more important than getting an autograph or watching derek jeter dive into the seats. I understand it would take something away from it but i'm willing to give that up for the safety of the fan does carson wentz always always look like the just drew a peanut somewhere that he shouldn't have does raiders owner mark davis look like the talking looking big toe and a commercial for toenail fungus does adam silver. It looked like captain. Cavity the villain from dental hygiene p._s._a. Aimed at children whose evil plans are always foiled by a strict regimen of thorough brushing and floss donlevatar. I hate that there are a bunch of people on radio row all of them with the plumbers but sitting around elbowing each other big dogs that little dogs dogs rabid dogs sitting there waiting being the shortstop for the seattle mariners to make his way through stugatz. We have plumbers but but our butts are in miami these live with our show with there's two guys on e._s._p._n. Radio i have a profound public and barris -ment that is a shame i for me. That was just his televised. We will get to that in one minute. <hes> this particular shame is long overdue roy. Go head retweeted. Send it out. Let's get out in front of owning this. Shame are a already dead all right and hit it in one minute. We will tell the radio audience what happened because it's a legitimate i'd surprise to me and by the way the and finally i mean come on come on i mean i've been nervous sweating his his word at the last six minutes. You know the word of dog and about e._s._p._n. Radio is presented by progressive insurance guests on the dan. Le batard show appear via the shell pennzoil performance line. Here's your sportscenter update. Cocoa gavee at fifteen years old became the youngest woman to advance in the u._s. Open's third round. It's annakournakova did it twenty three years ago. Man time is flying by josh gordon returned from suspension with two gadget for thirty yards on six targets in the patriots laws of the giants and finally earthworms are i. I don't even know scared to say the word hermaphrodites. Oh oh i shake whitley dude again. You gotta wrong long term like herm edwards that is correct herm edwards herm fro. It's the fro port her <hes> her math her math reunites are you you can find it for him. Earth work that means they have both both male and female parts. That's for all the latest headlines that information the sportscenter on e._s._p._n. Radio all throughout the all right roy get the embarrassing photograph to lorenzo so he can <hes> put it back at it. Television is supposed to protect his highrise could loop it is it on the screen somewhere at the center of the screen and just leave it there and i will make a couple of clarifications here. Mike ryan bill. You'll be happy to know that mike ryan was calling myopic during the break because i didn't have enough international flair in our discussion of the kobe shack beef he says soccer is replete with examples of famous his teammates doing dastardly things to each other. Yeah kareem benza tried to blackmail a tea made with a sex tape. This was recent folks. I'm actually lopez. <hes> the reports are his wife cheated on him with mario cardi. Mar cardi is no longer playing for the argentinian team despite him being you know a good player and less you think this is exclusive to europeans or south americans because it happened for your u._s. Men's world cup team in one thousand nine hundred ninety eight where john harkes. The captain had an affair affair with eric wynalda wife according to eric wynalda soccer is so much fun men except for the games everyone scoring accepting the game sir. We've also got some <hes> some simone biles perspective that is probably welcome given what we were just talking about which is simone simone. Biles doesn't have any relationship whatsoever doesn't even know her brother because of <hes> you know their family entanglement so <hes> her brother beginning culprit in three deaths <hes> she literally doesn't know him any better than we know him and so that separates rates her from him in another way even as simone biles trends all over the place because her fame and her excellence i mean she's broken gymnastics. She's better at this than anyone has ever been so if a news outlet is using simone's image to push promote that story. That's that's that's wrong right. I don't know is it not news. That simone biles his brother even if she doesn't know him has <hes> you know is is on on the he is wanted for three deaths but are we not guilty of it then too you by discussing it of course at most this will be a local story covered by local affiliate but not our names in like c._v._s. wants her name. I mean that's that that is one of the prices of fame. It's not always fair that way. It gets you endorsements and get you some of this it sort of unwritten into the contracts we we feel more entitled to be unfair with the famous that seems obvious and they're probably some headlines out there. That mentioned estranged brother. That's probably being the headline at a fair desimone own. Yes it is a news story because simone biles has a brother. That's won for merck all right <hes> so i don't want to see this. I never wanna see whatever it is that you guys are gonna put on television division now. I never want to see this on twitter. Although i'd like for it to trend i was not someone before moments ago. When roy told me said to me dan. I'm sorry to tell you this but and but had to tease because i am guilty of plumbers but on television i did not even know that my shorts were that low as i got off of the chair so how what level of embarrassed am i going to be if i ever see that photo one to ten and i'm gonna go ahead and turn off social media for the weekend because i didn't. I actually was not aware first of all. I have so rarely come in to work recently in shorts. I've been wearing pants for about eight months. That's i bought a bunch of pants and now i have a bunch of after seeing this photo auto makes a lotta sense why the tide is so high. It's because of the gravitational pull of your ass. Oh my god how wolf the big smile of a mean who has just appeared speaking of assets. I mean just appear with a giant smile on his face because he's very eager to get into this discussion for some reason yeah dan when roy told would you buy the picture you instruct. It came up on the screen again now. You said you started to get out in front of it and i said well. It's pretty tough talk because pretty big to get out in front of the top third and it's not the worst part proportionately though i will say swim crack consider wait a second. You know what you think. That's a large crack all right. Let's break it down saying something about about myself. Actually i was surprised at how small crowd relative to the rest of the but it's a decent crack means in a lot less harry when you say that the crack isn't that big does that indicate because the cheeks just so pressed together that is creating very slim crack or is there some other anatomic talk to keep in mind. He's actually getting up from the seat so let's see what that does gravitational right then you get up to expand get up well. This is where like the glitter as activated activated as it could possibly be so it. It might actually pull the cheeks apart hold on. He's he's clenching when he's getting up is what you're saying. Clinch you clinch when you get up now. I know that my as crack was there for anyone to see. I was not aware from the way i'm wearing my shorts right now. I have no oh knowledge that this is lower than it should be. I'm surprised by everything that's happening right now and mortified it's early but it has five thousand three hundred seventy two likes. Oh i like it there. You go there you go. Tell me how i wanted to do is assume zoom uh-huh zoom boom bawdy laughing about. I mean nothing. You can't share it. I'm sorry anthony ah welcome to the show. Drink it in you might not know a damper and drinking didn't make me laugh every drink but as far as our concern not bad no sleep back. Your home is important. That's why geico helps make it easy to save on condo insurance because home is more than just a place home is where you took minimalism too far because there's only one chair in your entire condo in your only entertainment is one card not even the duck of cards but a single card and all your guests have to share one plate and one fork but you're convinced that less stuff means more freedom. The geico insurance agency could help protect the overly minimalist melissa broom closet you call home call gyco and see how easy it is to switch and save on condo insurance donlevatar d- i would absolutely take down my own school well as a journalist. If i find out that there was financial aid problems. Are you kidding me. I'm not hiding that story totally leverage that information for money felony blackmail yep still gots gotz. He's got to be the only radio personality in america who freely admits yeah. You know that's good. You got the goes all the other. Their spots have been taken. He's like serving the landscape on. Where can i plant my flag. I got this one right. Nobody else wants this. Why is there no one here. Wow this looks like such a great land. I could you just claim all fraud and crime worked out well from these live at our show with stugatz on e._s._p._n. Radio we have have the aforementioned. Take line to get too. I need some call notes just to give some people some setup and to tell them a little bit about what it is is that the starting point on this was earlier this week but i see serena williams on my television right now. Stu gods and i was marveling. We've talked much about her dominance and just the gulf between her and everyone else in that sport <hes> she lost the first set in the second around the other day and i believe it's the first time she's ever lost a set in the second round of the u._s. Open. I believe you're right. It's the first first time that it's ever happened and what happened. Next was a brutal annihilation woman or girl. I don't know her aide was mcnally. She's a young american tennis player. She's supposed to be like one of those. Who's next type deal okay but what happened next was two sets of bazookas shots into into like she was hopping away from things that were happening at her feet with a tennis ball and <hes> it's just as i watch watch chris evert be a part of the coverage with john mcenroe. We've talked about this before the idea that <hes> e._s._p._n. Classic is a great myth destroy when you watch chris evert and martina navratilova. They're not playing the same game that serena williams is playing. Those are not the same sport. It's just patty cake la coming coming back and forth at each other and serena williams is out there with something on her shoulder blowing shots and forty miles an hour people. It's it's amazing yeah. The game aim is changed. I mean martina really was the first one who started to play. A bit faster was hitting the ball a bit harder right. Martina navratilova was the gave his change and cocoa golf. If i am telling you she is taking flushing meadows by storm right now and she hits the ball. I think ordinance arena it's incredible. She's incredibly agile. It's it's a hectic experience variance watching. It's fun then so we will get to the stu gods and the hall of fame <hes> lines in a second quick question. What does that mean taking by storm by storm. What why why does that mean. What are they really taking over by storm. Do you not see how high the ocean is out there and how scared everyone in south florida has and you're trying to get earlier flights out calling in a panic trying to get an early a flight out. Which part of this are you not understanding. Storms are sterry and there's nothing so you can do when they arrive. They take over so we were doing <hes> hall and oates talk because we're that radio show now. Ah out of touch is not just a song title of there's <hes> we were doing hall and oates talk and we discovered that this line has two two thousand calls a day still the emergency call notes line. Yeah we'll call it live right now. Welcome to call the notes. Your emergency hall orlando helpline to hear one on one. Please press one to hear it girl. Please press two to him any to please press street to privatize. Please press full a now this serves. There's no practical use in two thousand nineteen. It's a waste of everyone's time who is calling in two thousand times a day emergency. What if you have an emergency of if you're addicted to haul notes if you need some man eater in your life. This is always there for you. Always a phone call away. If if your power works and your cell works because the storm hasn't taken it out ruined your life so <hes> stugotz heard this idea and he's like well of hall and oates can remain relevant like this as as i descend into old age i've got ways to descend into old age profitably as well so what is god's his i yeah i'm gonna call this live right now actually all right so this is live now okay this telephone number. We can't give you yet because stugotz. His business practices need to run through an assortment of disney labyrinths to make sure he's that scamming. Everyone <music>. Thanks for calling take line to iraq has taken koby bryant. That's what has to take ah radar n._f._l. Team for hale who has to take on hake and jerry jones press three has got his act on the heck. Okay go with one and then just advance attains as we're gonna. We're gonna we're gonna get all of the tapes okay. We're going to do this one two three four five <music> good check by check. H coby coby coby winning koby loves rakes koby. It'll be would've had more rings than michael jordan if shaquille o'neal so getting in shape and basketball as seriously as go bryant did when they played together muddy did it ah off hack plan all out and i think that's the kobe thing here the under the radar <music>. There's an under the radar team with number two iradar applying well the radar. I got one point. They play him up above hall bill. Josh allen underrated cornerback dave and it's a weapon. They're called the only a tiny little bit very good running back. Alesha alhelm a client frank orange on. I'll aren't lacquer fresh. Shall go out of that. Spend that up at the end. I did not know that there was a great need anywhere for sleeper sleeper teams but if there is god's says your team let's press pound and get to the next cowboys. Take on someone like there's very desk and no one's gonna play and that's because jerry jones isn't capable of blanket but imagine if i were zeke elliott day get a deal go. We ought talk to me five times about the process and i would be sitting on weeks one and we too would i be sitting there and i mean actively running against by fred against my that's right. I ellen cowboy star owing pat. I believe in stole the not blinking jokes from my father father does he get a royalty on this. Take line of yours. I know the next one is kind of weird because it's not a sport steak is a t._v. Show i mean this show catastrophes. Here's a catastrophe and all that laboratory told me to watch this show based on title alone. I thought it was something about like a title way more digging city at go swimming at scrambling to find their loved ones. It's rambling for the lives. What did i get. I tuned into the show based on title. A lot of lebanon recommended it. It's a love story that my wife and now up stuck at all right. I know what you want to eh. Stay them. I mean hell catastrophes outside the white people swimming the live on the by. I got a love story with again win. Doc okay so let's go to your greatest hits. We can just like hold on before you do through this. What are the guesses on greatest hits. Certainly durant is in the greatest. We've heard a million times so if it's something that bores us immediately i'm just going to press pound and go to the next they rank the my personal record book clayton kershaw and pitcher ever he stays in the postseason. The chris paul top ten point guard ever never made it to an n._b._a. Roger federer at the soccer player. I am gonna check off off made by pay from here. Toll free other callers will automatically be charged two dollars for each button pressed including initial numbers dial to connect to this guy's tagline all right each color will be charged fifty cents per word convenience visa this unnecessarily lengthy wordy descriptions of the fees they will be unfairly charged for caller and have this guy take lie at feel stale takes. You have heard him. Give a thousand times at what's thank god i'm charging that hawaii aw shining jockeying for some a fifty fifty stole my father's anaconda staring contests and neither one of them zeke or jerry jones is blinking because because jerry jones has had much surgery on his face that he can't blink stole that i mean i kind of advanced it. He had this. Is there a contest and i helped them out. The jerry jones gap blake but let's we digress here. I will gladly give royalties because i love it i do. I'll give them royalties. The holidays just like our final. Sui award is going to be next best mispronunciation. We've been telling on your back keeps. Traditionally that is a category that's through god's dominates. We've been telling you about keeps and keeps will allow you to keep your your hair. That's the way it works. If your thinning you want to hear more about what's to god's has to say tell them scott yup the scott. Did you call me scotty. I'm so tired i i scotty scott it was god's with i just like missed. The middle part part of god's it just became saad getaway scotty loss games things time the play prevent defense defense with keeps keeps up. You save your hair without ever leaving your couch. I like scotty. Scott change the image in the shelf scottie scottie donlevatar. I have to have a testicular ultrasound. How does this work. What do i i have to do with whom into the room walks a bear of a man. He's been dealing with testicles for damn near three decades. I'm terrified stugatz. I have to get on my back. Throw my legs up in the air. Where's my left hand. Go need to cup my package. I'm saying into myself as i'm doing this. It can't get worse than this. He looks me straight in the eye for the first time we're about to get started and he says i am such a big fan of your t._v. And radio shows shows dude. That's time you choose to tell me that but you're laughing. I am laughing. I'm also mystified vulnerable. I'm still scared. It sounds like he had a ball with our show with two guys on e._s._p._n. Radio i'd like to claim that in honor of <unk> our final sui category are annual awards show here that i mispronounced do god's name as some version of scott because i i wanted to honor the category. Unfortunately it's just because i'm incompetent tired here. It is our final sui award which which is mispronunciations from the last year and now the sui nominees for best mispronunciation stugatz says recent region four rar nice nice socks sacks careful careful compensatory competent tori copyright copyright irrelevant irrelevant gallaraga gaga party ordering alma mater alamada fraudulent fraudulent project. If you want to attend the quality stella artois stella or tohis stephen gonna smith says to a hunger vilo taco be- lawyer tago from hawaii. It would've thought that there were more than that. I honestly want to hear it all over again. I would like for you to play that again because it would be amazing. If even it somehow one what is clearly this god's loaded god's conference now the sui nominees for best mispronunciation stugatz says recent recent region four rar nice socks careful careful compensatory tori competent tori copyright copyright irrelevant irrelevant gallaraga gaga party harder being alma mater alamada fraudulent fraudulent. 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This storm is bearing down on florida and it appears to be one of the hostile ones where argue where's your head at. This is a situation that i didn't think i would encounter. I was discussing with him. Oh my god get to it. Here's the thing i prepared. I i am prepared. I have my supplies but i now have four days between this and the storm so i'm going to spend the whole time thinking i'm not prepared and over preparing even more even though <hes> <hes> fully prepared at this time but i may not be prepared because i need to go through a checklist to make sure that i didn't miss something because i know that i've missed something. You're not gonna feel so prepared when you're hiding in your bathtub because it's the safest place in your house is it to hide in the bathtub supposed to be that's what they say opposed to. Yes my biggest issue is that i'm going through all the provisions visions that i've made to eat for the hurricane. I'm going through him now. 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Celebrity Big Brother 2 | LFC Roundtable Jan 24
"And welcome to the LLC roundtable podcast. This is the podcast where we break down everything. From the feeds, I'm rose Armstrong. And with me today is Melissa Melissa. I'm doing well. It was so exciting to have the feeds back. I I think I tweeted a little too much on that first night. So I was just oak cited it's like, you know, the first night of feeds is always a big deal. So I'm excited to really kick the season off because I feel like it doesn't really get started until we have the first election the first victims always kinda, you know. So I'm excited to really get season going. Yeah, I feel like I don't know why they always make the first one so long the first one is on you know, if it's right after I won. That's the that's the prima stuff. They're also with me today is brand tighter and Brent Brentwood modest here. Always right and joined by the host who is always wrong tearing Armstrong how you doing Taryn. I mean, am I always wrong or just saying? Yeah. I was having fun of your expense last night. But it's only because you weren't there as you correctly called on Twitter, like it's more fun to make fun of you. When you're not there because we're gonna laugh. I don't have to put up with your comebacks. Well, we are here live as we will be every week to argue about what's been happening on the live feeds of celebrity big brother two, and we are on YouTube. You can send in questions to me on Twitter at Armstrong Taryn, or you can join us in the chat, and we may be able to respond to you as we go along here. But let's talk about what's been happening in this celebrity big brother house this week. There's a lot to cover in this first week. And there's still a lot that we don't know. So keep that in mind, but we started we started the week, obviously, all the houseguests moved in wonderful. It's great we had an h competition. It was a pair paired competition the two people that were left out were Kato and Natalie they are immune for the week. However, they will get to compete in the in both does that happen during the week, and they will be voting. I. Mike ninety nine percent. Sure, they will be voting in actions. So that is good to know Jonathan and Ryan end up winning this this paired competition, but oh twist they're going to have to compete against each other. And only one of them's going to be the other one is gonna have to go on the block that one person is going to be Jonathan while Ryan becomes our I h of the season. And then another twist he's gotta make nominations in thirty minutes. So there alliances are trying to come together. And they're trying to make some moves trying to figure out who to nominate Joe Jonathan is not able to get to Ryan first Ryan's telling the women that his ideas Dina and the mooch he then goes to Jonathan Jonathan Jonathan Dana, maybe Tom instead and Ryan's like. Oh, yeah. Totally. And so they do that and the mooch and Tom are nominated alongside Jonathan. Leaving the women just a little bit. Like, oh, I thought we were going to do another thing. Maybe maybe we should have a conversation about that. But then Jonathan and Ryan never have a conversation about it with them. So that's that's the first act of this week. Really just a bit of a mess on both production side on Jonathan and Ryan side. And and everything in between, Melissa. Yeah. Basically, I mean, honestly, I'm still very confused as to as to a lot of what's going on. And I thought maybe on the third episode. It would have cleared some things up, and I still feel more confused than ever. I really this is the most confused been once feed that turned on because it was like there were so many elements to it that we were trying to like we were gleaning what had happened from areas pieces of conversation. And usually it's like, oh, yeah. Like, we can there's something that happened that we don't know. But we can kind of piece it together and. Usually is one thing. But I feel like there's so much going on right now that we have no idea what happened and not even sure if big brother's going to be able to clear everything up for us with the next episode. So it's going to be interesting to see how they try and Mussa out. There's a reason for that because the life seek peaks that they gave us it was clear that big brother headed instructed them not to talk game. And this is the first big stick in the eye of the fans, it's big biller giving us the big middle finger to the people who care about the show again, we will watch no matter what the people who come on to life feeds who turn on CBS all access. Okay. When they give us a sneak peek, or like, the criminal a cream of the people who are your bread and butter people. That will always watch the show. No matter what I would watch it three times if they showed it to me. Okay. We're not the people that you need to be afraid of spoiling something about okay? It was just so dumb Taryn and. And then that spilled over into the bit of the first week where they weren't even sure what they were allowed to say. Because big brother had been on him so much about the fact that you'll you can't talk game when we're giving these fifteen minutes sneak peeks, which is why we didn't learn anything contrast that with last year where you have morosi and Marissa, and I can't remember who else brandy talking about what alliance they're gonna make and how they're going to stick together. And we were living for it. And gave us all the excitement in the world. I just want to say what the hell are you doing grander? Like, I'm like, I it's like other people like Johnson on Twitter when I was going off on him. Like, I want to love you. It's like big, brother. I want to love you prefer making it so damn hard. Why would you do that? And that's not even my worst problem with what's happened is we and I say this because I have listened to other people who podcast and those people get to a point in time where they're complaining so much up the show they're covering. I'm sitting. Homeless into them going. So why are you even doing this anymore? I don't want you to think that I don't know big brother because I'm living for what we're getting big brother. But it's in spite of the things that the producers have been trying to do not because of them. So I don't want you to think that I'm down the season because I'm not yes. Yeah. I I'm totally with you on the on production telling the houseguests not to talk about certain things. It's very frustrating last season on big brother twenty we had houseguests who were frayed to talk to the cameras because they were told not to pander to America. And so they thought Batman I'm not supposed to explain my strategy to the cameras and now this season they are very adverse to talking game. And that's because they're not explaining things Foley, especially to people who don't know the show very, well, they're saying, hey, don't talk game during the life feed previews. And then so when the life go on permanently there like, well, I are we allowed to say this are we allowed to talk about this. Are we allowed to say we want to do here? And it's just there to nervous about it. And it's very frustrating. Dislike you have to let them talk on the feeds. They need to talk at some point. They need to do what they're doing at the very least at the very least if they're going to do these sneak previews where they don't want them talking game. Well, then explain to them after those reviews are over. Okay. Guys. You're allowed to game. Now, you're allowed to talk to the cameras. You're allowed to do whatever you were going to do that was just during that period of time like just be clear with them rather than just like not saying anything. And I mean, even now it seems like they're not they're not clarifying, even though they're still there's still that confusion. It's not like. Okay. Well, now, let's clarify with them. Because clearly they're still confused. They're just letting it happen and ignoring it. And it's just that we listen to the feats were anyway is to hear them strategize. They see what really happens in real time rather than these like neat little tied up packages that they give us on the edited shows. And if we're not going to get that, then, you know, what's the point? I agree. So very frustrating as Brent talked about there's a lot to complain about this week. I think that there have been a lot of very strange decisions happening. We will point them out along the way, but we will try not to belabor the point too much. I think everybody at this point understands. I think the people that need to be listening to this are not listening to this. Unfortunately. So I don't think we're gonna make our message heard. But anyway nominations again were the mooch and Tom a lot of people pointing to Jonathan trying to protect DNA as a massive mistake. I still personally disagree with that analysis. I think that keeping off a block was a good thing. It was the follow through that completely failed. They after the nominations Jonathan and Ryan seemingly did not talk to the women at all. And they would just pop into rooms occasionally have super awkward interactions, then leave and be like, we're in trouble guys. They needed to be like, hey, what's up? How we're sorry. That things happened. We only had thirty minutes. It's very understandable circumstance, but they never seemingly never tried to explain it, and it turned into something really bad. I talked to this morning about this sort of spiral into chaos and tension between these two groups in the alliances, the men and the women, and and it just it was bad. It was bad all around on on both sides here with Lolo ending up flipping off the picture of Ryan. And it's it's this tension just really builds and builds they have their first veto competition and Ricky ends up winning it. And because of this tension Ryan goes to Ricky and says, hey, Ricki, why don't you use the veto on Jonathan and I'll replace him with low low because she's been so weird to me and Ricky is like I'll think about it. And then he goes to low and he says, hey, Lola guess what Ryan wants to do. And then he doesn't use the veto Ricky being quite the pot. Stor. That should be the end of the veto segment of this recap. But it's not, but we'll stop down here. So that Brent can comment on what just happens. I mean. Well, okay. I take your point. Okay. You're right. It wasn't the issue of saving dean. That was a problem. It was the follow through. But it was also the setup to like, I look, I know thirty minutes isn't a long time. But he had enough time to Tonto Ryan and say, hey, I don't think putting up Dina's good idea. She's like second mom to me Lindsay would never forgive me. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. He could have grabbed one of the women tame our Lolo or even not even race. So I'm always trying to say her name wrong. Now, don't even re- and said, you know, what? Hey, it's probably going to be like, I don't know for sure. But it's probably going to be Tom not Dina. And because I love Dina. She's just like you say, whatever you want just give them a heads up. So they feel like they're in on the plan or even ask him even better ask them and say, hey, be okay. With you because I'm sure they would've said, yes. As long as them. Yes. We'll do that. But instead we from all again, this is before impedes. So we don't know. But it looked like from what we saw. There was no communication beforehand. No. Oh communication after. And we really look from Jonathan during the middle of the ceremony, which you know, we we can take what you want from that. But it was called out by Lolo as something where they viewed Ryan as the figurehead Jonathan as the mastermind behind the curtain, and I think that's why we are where we are today aside from the fact that I take that what I said about Jonathon, I don't think he's very good at this game. I really don't. I agree. Just like, their basic, social strategies even me as a total bitch. Sometimes knows you have to be able to talk to people and just get it out and talks to them and weird say, hey. Hey, we we're like because I feel like we're weird. And if they say, no, hey, you made your effort, but he's not even making that kind of Africa. And I feel like that has continued on to where we are today. Yeah. Say I feel like we we always talk about, you know, ad nauseam. We talk about jury management. But I also think there's a thing that's alliance management, and you have to make sure that your Lien's is feeling good about you and feeling comfortable with you. And and just saying like once or twice. Hey, we're in an alliance, and then literally not saying a word them for a while is not the way you maintain a good relationship. You have to keep up communication. You have to keep up some sort of friendship, even even if you're just casually chatting or anything the second person starts feeling like, you're you're keeping stuff from them is the second. They start doubting your lions and the second they start doubting your lines. They're going to go after you rather than which is kind of. It's kind of interesting that they would go after their own alliances before they go after other people. But that's because they're like this person's betraying me because they with me. And now they're not so about like betrayal of your own alliance. That makes people then turn on you instead of going around to the other people. So I just feel like there was no management here in terms of their big alliance. That was created we've seen this before. Where like it's always the betrayer who gets the blame when to know their seasons where you save someone. It's not the person who you tried to vote previously who's on the block and was saved. That's the person you end up playing, and it's the people who actually betrayed. You are the ones you end up feeling bad about ended up coming for. It's always the person who is the betrayer not the betrayed, basically. What how I feel? It happened is Jonathan and Ryan based on what we've seen on the feeds far if they were acting this way in the first week, then I completely understand what happened which is that they just hang out together. All the time. God. Yes. And don't interact with the women of their alliance. And so that that happened, and they opened the door because even when that happens the women are still probably thinking. Yeah. But they want to work with us. So this we're not gonna go after them. But that opened the door for somebody like Ricky to come in and be like, hey, I see an opening here. Why don't I throw some chaos into the mix? And obviously the men are not expecting Ricky to do this. And he was able to very successfully because of the door that was open get in there and completely finish the turn of the women onto these men, and they go. What are you talking about? The guys weren't expecting Ricky to do this. We weren't expecting real. Yeah. Yes. I I couldn't believe this was actually happening. And I still can't believe it's happening. And at first I thought I'm sure like many of you in the chat are like. Well, did he do that on purpose? Or is he just kind of like did he do something? And then in the diary room like he's trying to make it look like he tried to do something that was sort of a savvy MU but having listened to him over the past forty eight hours or so I am completely on board. With the fact that Ricky for all of his quirks. Sometimes is playing a pretty good game right now and is doing some things deliberately on purpose in order to attain. His current position in the house where it seems like he's the one who's causing everything to happen. He's the catalyst for the awkwardness in and inability to talk with each other right now because he has relayed some information that they don't that the boys don't think got relate. And he's also a hell hell he stayed people's hand. When other people thought about, well, maybe we shouldn't do this. He's like, no, no, no, no. Remember, they were gonna put up Lolo and they're like, oh, yeah. So he's definitely at work here and somebody to be taken seriously. Yes. And another point that I brought up this morning. And I wanted to get you guys your thoughts on it. I feel like the Jonathon downfall. If he is in fact, voted out this week as it is looking like, he might be that. What his legacy is that he did not play hard enough. He has just been hanging out with Ryan his not been checking in with people. He has not been he's barely talks to Tom and Kato. He's he's let the women completely drift away. He's just hanging out with Joey and and Ryan not doing nearly enough. And so I think that the Shannon comparisons are not quite there. Even though I think Shannon, also was not like the categorical over player. But I think he's not even there. I think he is an underplay. And I think that's that's what his his downfall has been negree. Yeah. I do I've actually known John Bennett, not known personally. But I've watched him for about a year and a half. I didn't watch mean girls when it came out probably one of the few gays in America who didn't watch mean girls in two thousand and four and then I've seen him on Instagram with his boyfriend James James for you guys. Don't home talking about who was on the amazing race. He was one of the Chippendales on the amazing race. And they've been going out together for a little over a year. Now, very cute couple. But I feel like has been playing this game. Exactly. Like, you lips is life just hangs out with his boyfriend who in this gazes Ryan is just showing he's cool. That's only needs. And I get that. I'm kind of a homebody myself like I just hang out with Jay. And I don't have friends, but in the big brother house, you've got to get up there mingle. It's like the mooch set at the end of the episode. You gotta get out their schmooze with people. Of course, he's schmoozing Dabo's right now. But you know, schmooze with the women schmooze Kato, and Tom that's what I mean Johnson. It's so infuriating Terron most because he's talked on the feats about the fact that he. He has been wanting to get on the show for years. Like, this is a dream of his to play rather, Melissa like what's happening here. I don't I can explain it to me. Yeah. I mean, it's disappointing because I don't think Jonathan would be going out this early had he not been screwed over by the twist, but at the same time, he's not doing himself any favors. So I feel like it's one of those situations where like that wasn't the nail in the coffin for him to be nominated. I don't I think that if he had played this week differently. I don't think he would have gone home. But I think that it certainly didn't help that he got put on the blog, especially, you know, when his biggest ally in the house is H O age like it. It really is. I don't if everything played out without this twist and Jonathan with not no one got put on the block and Ryan one H O H. I don't think John than we've we've put on the block at all. I don't think he'd be in danger of going home at all. I think he'd. At least we save till next week and probably longer. But now that he's put in that situation. He's not doing the required work. He needs to do to get himself out of it. I felt like I felt pretty confident about him in the beginning. Because it seemed like he was making alliances and talking with people. And you know, I heard a lot of good things being said about him. And I was like, you know, what maybe I judged him rather harshly during our our draft. But now, I just don't think he I either he just doesn't see himself as being endanger, which seems weird to me because he is a strong player. But or he just he thinks he's doing enough, and isn't realizing that he's not I don't know what's going through his mind. It reminds me of ours. From survivors said about winners returning to the game where they've never experienced what it's like to be on the other end of blindside where this is his first week of the game. Most people get through this. I think that he is the kind of player where if he survives this week and realizes. That people were against him this whole time that he would be like, oh my God. I've been doing this all wrong, and he would look on that and he would move on. And even if he wasn't put in the situation from the twist to begin with, then he might have had some time to sort of get a solid grasp of the game. As it is. He's kind of just floundering I think he has the potential there. But it's almost definitely going to go on realized at this point. Yeah. I was very taken with what you said on the update earlier today with Mary a really good one for those people didn't listen to where are you talking about the fact that they could probably solve this problem? The boys I'm talking about Ryan, and Jonathan they could probably get out of this mess, if they just talked with the women if they just had a conversation about the fact that things are a little awkward right now that maybe they're not feeling great about it just getting a room and talk to make them. Like, hey, we need to have a conversation. Let's sit down rather than this thing where they walk into room. They feel awkward about it. And the girls get up and leave or or a day walk into a room. And they feel awkward about it today. Leave. It's like you get in a room. You feel awkward about it? You tell them look. Okay. We really need to talk. Can we please down talk for minute. Like, let's just hash it out because things weird between us like you just I know it's awkward, but you've just got to like buck up and do it. If you wanna stay in the house, and at this point, it's just it's not looking. Good for Jonathan. And one of the reasons why is after this veto ceremony. The veto is not used. There is some mysterious happenstance in the house. There was somebody who is in the house was no longer than the house. The mooch who was nominated one of the three nominees ends up revealing to the houseguests that he has been a mole the whole time. Just like the audience has has known since day one. Sarcasm by the way. Idea what this is. And then after revealing that he's a mole. He leaves the game and the houseguests play a second veto. But not before Ryan replaces mooch with candy. Not sure why can't he came up? We'll probably find out tomorrow night when the episode airs, but candy is now on the block next to Tom and Jonathan and they are now competing in their second veto after mooched the mole has left the game and Kato is going to win this veto, and he is pretty tight with Tom. So he plans on using this veto on Tom. So a lot of stuff to process there. Do you guys have any theories here on the mooch? We know for sure that he is out of the house. He has been spotted in Switzerland. He is he's out. He I personally don't think there's any chance he goes back into the house unless they really don't care about the integrity of the game because he's out of the he can see. Everything he can find out all of the alliances and everything. So if you went back in that would be pretty bad. Okay. This is the question we need to ask ourselves. Deborah talking about a chat where she says the mole excuses. Strata bullshit that CBS is trying to feed to us, of course, to Bs didn't say that the Kaos guests are saying that. But, but what did say is that there was a twist in the game coming on Friday that houseguests will never see something or someone in second house. Gus we'll go home, of course, Robin. I were talking on the challenge night about talking on the show last night about the fact is that the mooch and house going home. Or is it the mooch and two other houseguests going home? And this is why I was so infuriated. I know rob doesn't like it. When I get to upset sometimes. But I mean, this is why I get so upset and some people on Twitter were making fun of me because you were hating the twist, and then I said you're being a broken record. And I was going on about the bad twist. One twist is okay, okay. With them. Good twist anytime if other. Other big brother candidate goal with. But when you throw a bunch of things into the first week, and then you try to make the house gets not talk about the game, and you wanna have three nominees and the person is part of the power has to be on the block with the person that they won the competition with and you have a second veto competition. And you have a person who is either quit or as a mole and never was really part of the game. It just shows me that you don't have any any confidence in the cast that you have set and the game structure that we have grown to love over over twenty years now. And I don't know why that's the Kate. Why do they feel the need to throw this shit against the wall? It's just it's just bad production. And I don't know why they do that then justify their jobs to fulltime job coming up with twists. I'm absolutely beyond. Not okay with having it preplanned that the mood is going to come into the house only for this period of time. I'm positive that. It was I mean, if this is if we what we're all saying is accurate, then I'm positive. It was in his contract that he had to go to this conference that he hosts typically, I don't know if he tows it this year, but he usually like is a host of this conference. And he is that's written in this contract that okay, I'll come into the house for you. I'll do your little interviews beforehand. All get everyone psyched. And then I I have to leave by X date, which literally is in the first week. I mean, that's absolutely ridiculous. That's not. That's not cool at all. Because that plays all of us like that it if he quits on his own, well, you know, what there's nothing CBS. Could've done if he knew going in like if you played CBS because he knew going in that he was going to go to this conference. And he was like what I gotta be out by this date. So I'm just going to quit. That's fine with I'm not fine with doing that. But I'm saying that's fine with CBS not knowing and being like, this sucks because we he was like our big draw. I wish he was staying. But this was his own decision. And he didn't let us know about this. That's fine. But if CVS new from the get-go that this guy was only going to stay for X amount of days because he like just just for the publicity of having the mooch in the house. I'm I'm not okay with that. That's not okay. Because that plays all of us like that plays all of us. And I don't like it. I like a lot of people are saying, oh, you know, what happened is he quit. And this is CBS covering up. The fact that he quit trying to make it seem like it was planned all along. I mean that seems crazy to me because this is so much worse than him out. Yes. Yeah. Like, okay. That sucks because he's you know, he just decided to quit, and we had no say, and we wish you would stayed. But if CBS was behind this whole thing or even if they weren't behind, but are making themselves a little book lake they were behind that. Like. Two things happened. This the dumbest twist slenda with somebody in the chats. Like Brennan on a twisted to feature. Please whatever. I mean. It's a twist. Okay. There's somebody who's in the cast was not even real player. So either that's true in which case this has been done really shabbily war dec-when exactly what was the point. Or he quit the game. And I feel like I mean the thing is I feel like he quit the game. But I'm like, I feel like that seem to see me a slide was because if they try to act this plan, and he really did with them. They are actively lying to us the people in the shadow, obviously CBS plane us that he trying to cover up the fact that he quit, but I kinda feel like wouldn't do that. Like if he actually quit I feel like they would hang him out the dry. So I history. Equate. I agree. So I don't I don't I don't really feel like that. He was a twist I feel like you really did quit. I feel like he got in the big brother game. And he was like I don't like this and Dabo's coming up in a couple of days. And I'd rather be there screw this shit. If I if I leave now, I can actually make it in time for dollars because I feel like I'm going to be voted out on Friday. And I feel like that's what happened. I know. Rob was like how the hell did he make it to a millionaire billionaire you can July lanes up on a Red Eye and get over there. Yeah. I mean like it didn't look like he had much sleep. When he did that interview. So I'm sure you can do whatever you wanted to. But that's what I think is that he quit the game. He remember the jobless was coming up, which is a Filipino. Financial get together for a lot of Horry twenty people in the world, and he just just straight up quit. And I agree RJ was boring as well. I mean, unless there's the there's a slim possibility that it was written in his contract that he needed to be gone for this particular conference, and that CBS was gonna make an exception for him to attend this conference. He was going to be like accompanied by a handler, and they don't own any. I wasn't gonna like watch live feeds and then. To rob again, last no way, that's true. He was on the block like you can't just like take him away and save him from the block in the vision. Like, that's that's crazy. Like, the whole thing is great like, they're great. Great thing these people who are saying you might be brought back like, yeah. We. Theoretically, there there is something out there in the world some explanation that maybe make sense, and maybe won't be infuriating. And maybe we'll find that out tomorrow night. But I genuinely have been thinking very hard. And I can't find anything that is an extremely dumb. So we'll find out tomorrow. But it the whole thing's just silly. And hopefully, we'll talk about it when we find out what it is. We'll say how Domino's and then we'll be able to move on. And just forget this whole embarrassing thing happened because I really do feel like this week has been embarrassing from production standpoint. And you know, what if on if I'm being totally honest. I'm a little disappointed because I was excited to see 'em play. I thought that he had a chance to go far in the game. And I I'm sad that you know, you never liked to see people quit. I was upset when medically last year. So I just feel like it's it's really disappointing. Ng especially because everybody saying that it's in their contracts that they can't quit or else. They don't get the money. But if spur someone who has you know, millions and millions of dollars. They don't care if they lose their stupid side. They just want the publicity. So. Debra Susana chat. Mooch was bitter because he lost the veto and left before he got victim slash embarrassed. I'm inclined to think that that's true actually did seem like he didn't wanna be there like in the life feed previews and on the first two episodes. He's just been like. Mima billionaire. Don't forget that the I know it's embarrassing. What you're seeing right now. But I'm really successful. And I was in the White House. So like when we heard that he wasn't in the house. It was like, yeah. That makes complete sense that he would quit. But you know, what are what are you gonna do? Anyway, they play the by the way. I disagree, Melissa. I'm not I'm not really devastated at all that mooch ended up. Quitting. Course, we never like a quitter. If that's indeed what happened. But like the mulch isn't the star of the show star of the show is K my Braxton. Honey, I am living for what she's given us because we haven't even brought her up over the last thirty minutes, and it like big celebrity big brother two is all about. No just want to talk about it. But we can wait been an eventful week. There's been talk about so so Cato Cato wins the second veto he wants to use it on Tom. He's closed with Tom. So the Jonathan Joey and Ryan who've kind of started Joey is kind of gravitated toward those workout broS. And and they have to figure out who are we going to nominee as the replacement for Tom Jonathan wants it to be Joey. So that they can appease the women because he his argument is if we if we lose the women that I'm gone anyway. So we might as well do everything in our power to try and get them back on our side and by everything in their power. He means nominate his closest ally who's not on the block and then still not talk to them. So that's that's everything is power. That is what they end up. Doing Cato is gonna use veto on Tom Joey goes up on the block. He does give his consent though, again, I have to employ. Go look at his face when they tell him and he says yes with the biggest frown in the world on his face. He's his little, bro. Heart is broken. I'm sorry. Joy making fun of you. So the final nominees are. So many I almost named Tom in the mood and neither of them around the block anymore. Thin candy, and Joey those are the three final nominees on the block the current vote count. Is the women who have been turned against Jonathan by Ricky are going to be voting Ricky. That's Lolo John. Yes. Jonathan somebody. James? I don't even know what I said, Natalie Lolo taymor, and and Ricky. Should all be voting out Jonathan as well as that was four that seems four right as long along with Tom Cato's Thomas Kato, right? So the person we were unsure of right now is is Deena who we think is going to vote to save Jonathan. She's gonna vote out candy. That's what she's told. Right. I got taymor is not voting with them. Taymor is going to be voting candy handy. Exactly. Right. Right. Right. Five to two team in on the plan to buy Jonathan. But she's not actually voting John out. That's the part. That's crazy. See she keeps saying that. She's going to vote canny out, and I feel like she really does want candy out. But she just somehow isn't I feel like if she exerted her will enough maybe could happen. But I don't know. And by the way, just because I don't want to gloss over this. The reason they put Joey on the Bach. I agree. It was probably a dumb move. But by putting Joey on the block, they do leave their options open where if if the women are with him, the women will save Jonathan and they'll be okay. And if they put joy on the buck, they could still go to Kato, and Tom and make a deal if they felt like they needed to and still have four votes with Kato, and Tom and candy and taymor voting to a big candy. But if they put Lolo on the block that really boxes them in with forcing themselves to now work with Tom and Kato. So I get where they were coming from on this. We're Johnson was like I feel like we have to stick with the women here because it at least gives you another option but on the other hand if it's a sinking ship get off the sinking ship. Yeah. I'm actually with you like when we thought that potentially Kato and Natalie weren't voting because they were immune it made a lot of sense to put low low on the block because that might secure the votes, but that is almost definitely not the case. And because of that this is potentially the right move. Even though I mean, it's just it's such a strange situation at this point. He has so few options of people to put up, but he does need to keep those options open, and as we'll talk about a little bit later. That's maybe what's going to save him. Whereas he was definitely dead in the water. If low was on the block, and the wouldn't have been able to work with either side, at least it doesn't seem like that. So. Not nearly as bad a move as you may have initially thought when he puts up close. But so those blocks of the votes are low Natalie Tom Kato and Ricky to Vic Jonathan Tae mar DNA to Vic candy yet. So in order for Jonathan to stay he needs to flip at least one of the pairs, low low and Natalie or Tom Kato to the other side to Vika Ndi that would make four votes to three and he would be able to stay obviously, if he can flip both pairs are everyone that would also allow them to stay. But but that's what it's looking like right now as we move toward the the Shen tomorrow. So let's talk about the state of the house here. We had some alliances we need to talk about. There are a lot of pairs in the house three of them. At least we've got Natali and low low their type pair you saw that on the episode where they talked about. Vinyl classic. I don't wanna I don't forget about this. Yesterday, where all even Marie and Lolo we're talking again and nettle even where you're basically said the same thing which name our final two alliance. And although was like, I can't let you can't with you. What is right here. And she's like we should do that again to tame our we should do that again. And like see what she does like just to play with her a little bit and low was like, no she's too fragile right now. And then there's me at home going. No, do it. Do it. I really liked those together. I think that Lolo and Natalie are doing they're doing a really great job. And I'm really impressed with them. I honestly, I wouldn't have seen them working together. But I'm really happy that they are. I feel like they're really strong their athlete. I feel like they're thinking about the game. Maybe they're not this mart is when it comes to like when to talk about things, and when not to talk about things, but I do feel like they're really they're really putting in the effort. And I'm I'm impressed with them. And I think it's one of those situations where they could really catch on. And really know how to play the game pretty well. And there's one other pair that I think is doing a good job. But I'm sure we'll talk about them in a minute. I want to ask you your opinions about Nedal Maria because I know Alex on Alex well Arpanet on Twitter was been going all over the fact that people be comparing to Vanessa from big brother, and I don't think she's Vanessa people. But I think she's playing okay game. And I don't think she's like the total Texas tornado DiBa bitch from the wrestling show, total divas or whatever that people are making out to be. I think that she's actually she's doing an admirable job right now. My understanding is that wrestling fans, don't like her because she is essentially somebody who doesn't have a lot of wrestling skill who was thrust into the spotlight like she has a lot of skill and so much like survivor players that just get a really massive edit and players hate them because of their edit but not because of their personality potentially. It seems like maybe a little bit like that. She's definitely is also a bit of a grump as we saw. Kato to when he was cheering on the H competition, but there's definite. But from what I've heard again, and I know very little about this. There does seem to be some kind of bias against her. Because of where she was placed by the powers that be in the wrestling community. So that might be what's going on. I like Natalie I think that she has a lot of potential more. So than Lynn low. I I know I'd been hard on the low before I my estimates had gone up on their little bit further down. Again, I feel like Natalie is kind of the brains there. And and also probably the the more capable social player. And potentially the one that wouldn't be targeted if they were both if they were both put on the block. So I I like what Natalie is doing that said she was immune this week. And that really allows you to play a lot better. Like if we're thinking about how Kato played this week. We'll talk about it when we rate them, but you know, being immune gives you a lot of space to play around. So we'll see how she does next week. But I do like what she's doing as a payer Natalie and Lolo, I'm not as happy with the direction. They've gone. I think they started this week in a really really strong place in the middle. And I think they've been pushed to the side and they've been pushed to the side by Ricky in favor of the next pair, Tom Kato who are now the pair that's kind of resting in the middle of the house right now, they are pretty tight. We saw the making a lines with the mutual is now gone. So they're just a pair at this point. I don't know if they were closer than the mooch before he left, but who knows anyway cater used the veto on Tom. They're working. Well, together, Tom has a very good mind for the game from what we've seen so far he's to know his place and know what to do. And so I like this pair. They are the best situated pair for me at the moment. And it'll be interesting to see where they go moving forward. Yes. I agree. I I think it's it's fun watching Tom, Tom Cato, Natalie evening's chat. Yeah. That's what you're talking about. Yes. Tom cato. Gosh, very fun. But I am I am very taken with the fact that ties sold the brains of this operation and Kato really is just like a number for him. After watching them talk over the past forty eight hours. It's clear to me. That Tomlin's actually thinking about the game. And I also very taken with what you were talking about Marianne. The light beat up day today about the fact that Tom feels like he's reinventing the wheel when big brothers badge. This very very cute. But funny, I, but it is it is impressive to me that he is thinking more than one step ahead. And he is not totally sold on evicting Jonathan. But it does seem like Kato is being a little bit intractable about it. So I don't understand if eventually Tom might make some hay in terms of turning him again. Against what he was originally going to do and keep Jonathan or if they're just gonna follow through with this plan. I'm not even sure what they should do at this point. Not even what they will. Do. I am sorry. I'm just really I'm enjoying this Tom and Kato pairing. I think this is the other pairing. I'm really interested in. I think that they're doing a really great job. I like, you know, they're playing they're not playing too hard. But they're starting. They're starting to think about it. And like Brennan said it's really funny to see them seemingly invent the strategy. That's like classic big brother strategy that like now when we watched the season, it's dull you're going to do that. And they're like what if we were to would if we would maybe help each other in these veto competitions and Kano's like, oh, don't say that don't oh, I'm glad you didn't do that. And it's like are they allowed to couldn't we assist each other. We're working together. And it's like, oh my God. But it's so like, it seems so obvious us, but it's like. Them. They're like just it's it's magical like watching them. Discover these like these like pretty much like standard strategies, but the back that they're coming up with these things. I mean, I think it's impressive because you know, if you're a player who hasn't seen the game and really very much knew who also is playing a season where a lot of other people haven't played the game. It is like starting all over. It is like feeling it out and figuring out what how to play and what to do. And it's it's the people that figure it out that end up going really far and end up doing really well. So I feel like these guys are already on a really good track. And and people aren't really it doesn't seem to be that people are really thinking about them big threats or anything like that. Even though Kato already one of ITO, and Tom was doing pretty well in the first competition, but you know, you don't look at these guys and thinking them as big athletic threats. So I'm really I'm thinking they're going to do a good job. Yes. So yeah, we did see them Tom in particular start to think about maybe we should save Jonathan that probably stems from a conversation that Tom had with Ricky earlier today where Ricky was a little bit pushy. Little weird in on the conversation. He called Tom prick, not just calling him a prick. I believe he said like, oh, so deep down under everything you're just approach. Something along those lines and Tom was like. Those weird weird and talking about how he he likes Jonathan. He genuinely likes Jonathan is a guy he he had talked a couple of days ago about potentially taking her maybe it was yesterday about taking Joey out instead of Jonathan. I think Tom actually likes Jonathan as a person and is looking for reasons to keep him around. And so now with what happened with Ricky? He's starting to think, well, maybe we should just work with Jonathan and Ryan and also bring in the women, and maybe that'll work. Maybe then I don't have to deal with Ricky because that was weird. The thing about Ricky is I feel like he is elements of me or I have Ellen of Ricky. He'll just say what he's thinking without any filter whatsoever. And that was obviously something that he should have said. But on the other hand Thomas a little sensitive about inland. Like, oh, he just called. You prick like that's are worse things. You can be called than. Okay. Deep down your prick, which the first time, Tom green. Thank you. This is the Chad. Ladies and gentlemen, come on. It's height of irony here that he's being complaining about the fact that someone called him, but he was and so here we are where he's actually thinking about saving Johnson. I agree with you on that. I think deep down he just likes Jonathan. And I'm also not sure what he should do because I do feel like that keeping Jonathan in the game will lessen any perceived genius talk from people about Tom where they think it's really up to something Tom really knows what he's doing. Because if you have somebody like Jonathan the game been feel like he would be looked at as genius number two. And I'm not sure the house gets looking in that way. But I know we look at Tom green that way right now. So I feel like the houseguests will eventually work up to where we are right now. Once more of Tom is revealed to them. So I don't know if keeping Jonathan the game for Tom green is a good play or a bad play. And I'm not even sure if it can be done number one. But I'm not even sure that he should do it number two. Because of how like you have shot to get out Jonathan the first week who like remind. Me like he doesn't healing reminds me a Ross by virtue of the fact that they're both fans and they're both gay other than that. I guess there's not a real lot of similarities because the former is not playing very good right now. But I just I don't know what Tom should do given that he has a clear shot to get this guy out. I personally feel like the right move. Here is for him to go along and let Jonathan go because for for a couple of for a couple of reasons I think the Jonathan as we've talked about if you let him stay. That's like that's dangerous. He might learn the game. I think Jonathan is probably one of Tom's bigger threats in terms of people who can sort of see what Tom is doing. I think if Tom takes out Jonathan there aren't a lot of players left that can really scope out the Tom is that smart? I think I think a lot of people don't really see Tom in that way. But I think Jonathan is one of the people that could another thing is that right now, it's low low in Natalie are making the move to take Jonathan they're going to take all the from this. If tom. Steps in and changes the plan, then it's Tom's move. And now all of a sudden instead of the Ryan Joey being mad at the women for trying them, and they're going at each other and taymor and candy are still going at each other. And they're just kind of sitting back in the middle like Jalen, they just made a big move, and they've United some some pears. They want to get the women and these guys back together. Right. That right to me is not the best move here. So I think the best move for Tom is to chill out a little bit. But again, he I think he has the most potential in this house right now. But he again, this is the first week. He's still learning the game. He's still trying to figure this out. And I think he's a little bit blinded by the fact that he likes Jonathan and and less more than the other people on the block, and he kinda just wants to keep Jonathan around is one of the more normal people in the house. So we'll see how that goes. We also have of course, Ryan and Jonathan the super type pair here. We've seen them on the episodes. They just hang out. Stop. They are making a lot of mistakes along the way. And I think we know we know a lot about what Ron and Jonathan doing at this point. They are attached to Joey as we've talked about they are kind of the broS. There are no real alliance names happening yet. So these are the broS to me, especially 'cause Joey just loves working out and Ryan so. They they kind of have Dina with them because DNA is so attached to Jonathan Jonathan has talked to Dina about saving both him and Joey in voting candy out, and he has promised that both. He and Joey along with Ryan will help protect DNA if she does. So so she's kind of touched to them. We then have the women as I refer to them because I've got no better name at the moment, and they consist of Lolo Natalie an taymor, and obviously Natalie and lower closer than taymor because taymor keeps getting into these things with candy, and they're really sick of that. They kind of have Ricky attached to them Ricky has their era for sure he's not super loyal to them in that he's willing to kind of push them in certain directions. But I think that they're the people he wants to work with the most at the moment. So they're doing their thing. This original alliance that we saw on the first episode. The of Jonathan Ryan Lolo, Natalie tame are. And candy has been decimated. It's completely kaput at this point as you've seen with the rest of them. There's basically no vestige of this alliance remaining, except for the fact that Jonathan thinks he'll be safe because the women will be keeping him because of this alliance that doesn't exist anymore. Finally, the most promising alliance of all of these this tentative final four happening right now with Tom Kato, Natalie and Lolo the they came together fairly recently. This is really what puts Tom Cato in a great spot. They're making a deal saying, hey, let's keep each other safe. It was just a safety deal. Then some some final fours have been thrown out a little bit here and there so I think this is Tom especially as like, hey, I would not be super opposed to going to the end with these people. So this is probably what we should be looking at here depending on how the shakes out next week. We could see this alliance kind of take some power. So that is how. I see the current state of the house, Melissa. Yeah. Yep. I think that that alliance is going to be one to watch out for for. Sure. It's very exciting. And you know, I feel like this happens every single year where we have this big massive alliance on the first week first few days, and then it literally disintegrates right before is like right away. If barely lasts the first episode like we all watch it, and we're like Ono not the big alliance again because they're going to take out all the side people one by one and it never happens. We scare selves every year and every year, it's just like. Implodes? It really does like for one reason or another they fight. They they don't talk. They you know, they end up not liking each other whatever and it just never works out. So I think it's like this is like one of the few years that I I saw that big alliance warm, and I didn't freak out. And I was just like that. We'll see along this last. And of course, it didn't last. So now, you know that from now on we don't need to get freaked out. If it's like the bomb squad all over again. I saw someone saying the chat isn't tame are included in that deal with Tom and Cato. Yes, to an extent, but but in the same way that she's attached with Lolo and Natalie she's kind of on the outside of that. Because she's so volatile that nobody really wants to be that closely associated with her. So she's technically kind of part of that deal. But not the final four talks, not the let's actually work together talks. And again, one of the reasons why Tom is like, hey, why don't we just take candy? So that taymor becomes a regular person. Potentially think I'd happen. Handy. I I'm with you on this day today that if you think that are has misunderstandings with many people in life. I agree. That's the case. I mean, God bless her. I love her. She's great TV. But my God, she cannot let something go every little thing that comes up. She takes offense to if candy said it, she's she's trying to make look trying to make me look shady the belie feeds Ron she's acting different right now. I mean, like just like girl let it go. But even candy was gone. I still feel like she get upset because she's got into fights with other people who've tried to calm down. I've tried to help her. She doesn't want to be helped. She's just she's she touched a hot stove once you touch. Woo. I don't wanna touch anymore. So I I actually I don't think she's playing well right now. But on the other hand, I don't really see anybody coming after because she's like I cannot take her seriously as a player even though I want to. So I'm hoping she proves me wrong and goes out there and wins, the whole time, Marsh should hope and pray. That she can vote for candy to be victim every week, but candy never leaves because very much like the great God Freeman wiza-, if you just call target openly and everybody knows this is the person I'm going after no matter what the nobody feels threatened as long as candy is in the house because they're going to be like, well, obviously, she's going to be gunning for candy, not me. So there you go. It's it's an effective strategy. If you intentionally got rated. So let's move onto the stock watch. I doc watch of the season we are going to rate each player based on their game this week. And there are a couple of changes to the stock watch this season before you missing announced what the changes are. I just wanna point out. The fact that Brent won the stock watch during big brother candidates six when Paris was the winner. And I had all the Paris stock, and then Bryn one big brother twenty stock watch when Casey ended up in the winter. And I trade all my stock at the end and got all the case stock and beat Tarrant so brand is two for two in stock watches and here comes Terrence. I wanna make some changes to the rules. So we hear on hold on. We've made changes to the rules. Every time the candidates. Very different from big twenty brand. Just point that out. He's just saying it's that now loses he can be like the role that I was winning every time and tearing out to stop me. Well, basically, there are probably only going to be four roundtables over the course of this entire season because it's such a short season. So with that in mind, we're going to increase the the weekly allowance of money that we get to spend on the house. We're gonna twenty dollars each week as opposed to ten dollars, which is what we did during big brother twenty and the weekly cap of money that you can end on is going to be forty instead of twenty just going to double. So we get a little bit more money involves we can spend on different players as we go. So that there's not just like, oh, I have stock in four different players. And that's it. So that's change. And then another big change is that we we heard some feedback from from it last time what we did was if you wanted to sell any shares of your stock you would get half of the current value of the player too. So that it wasn't a game of like trying to buy and sell at the right time and and make money. Hey. Hey, it's a short season. Let's experiment with doing at that time. This time you can sell for full value this time. So if you buy a player at three dollars, and then a couple of weeks later, they increase their value to eight dollars, and you sell them you will make a profit of five dollars. So you can now. Make make much money as you want that comes with caveat, though. Which is that a player that is valued at one dollar is now considered worthless. There is no zero rating, so there's no zero dollar there needs to be zero dollar otherwise you can't lose money by buying one dollar player. So if that doesn't make sense to you bottom line is if a player is at one dollar they cannot be bought they cannot be sold. They are worthless. If the value goes back up, then things can happen. But at one dollar, they're worthless. He can't buy cancel with that said, let's move onto the player ratings, and let's start with Dina. Brent? You. Tails? What you think of dean lo Han? Yes. Okay. I'm looking at it from the perspective of I feel like there are people who are in the game right now who could win the game knowing that. No. Here's a thing knowing that the jury goes home, they see all the diary rooms, I feel like Dina's someone who could win. And so I'm going to give her a little bit of a bump in the rating. Even though I don't explain particularly great right now. I don't feel like she's making anyone's I don't feel like she's I misspoke. It's something she's playing she's not playing great right now. It's she's not playing right now, she's not playing really much very much at all the closest thing I've seen her do to plane is telling Jonathan that. I'm going to keep you because you were in a movie with my daughter. I think she said movies. They've I don't know what he's together. Yeah. I don't know what other movie they're talking about. But be that as a me, I feel like this. She she does get a bump from me because by virtue of the fact that she could win at the end, I feel like they would award dean of the money, and I don't feel like I don't feel that way about everybody in the cast right now. Having said that her game. A really leaves a lot to be desired. I don't even feel like she knows what's really happening around her. She's basically a piece it's being used by other people. So I have to rank her pretty low. I'm going to go with four right now. I am with you. Actually, I gave her a four I feel like she is likable. She is not like fitting in she's not like hanging out with a lot of people, but she's likable, and that's huge especially in celebrity big, brother. She's not trash talking anyone if she's sitting there at the end, she absolutely can win that money. And that's that's very important, especially for somebody. Who is so non-threatening? I think that DNA is exactly the kind of person that can win the game. However, she's a long way along road ahead of her to get there when she's not really playing. Also, I do have four here a bit below average. But do not count her out. I think that she is potentially a good investment. If you think that. The you know, you wanna make that risked, Melissa. What do you think? Yeah. It's so hard when we're so early in the season, you know, 'cause it's I don't I haven't we haven't gotten to see everything that's been going on. So I don't know what happened like when the feeds were off. And I don't know what's going on. And I just feel like I'm still very very confused. But I think what I agree with what you guys are saying, I think that the way I'm going to base my ratings at least at this point is like a five is just like totally middling. And then if they're worse than that than they would go lower. And if they're better, I mean, this sounds really obvious, obviously like it sounds like I'm explaining like what numbers are. But like, but I'm trying to explain that. Like, everyone started on explain this works, Tom rather than everything starts at zero or one or whatever. And then you have to be really really good in order to go higher. I feel like right now. It's like everybody starts at five. And if you do bad things and you go lower, and if you do better things than you go higher anyway. All that to say that because Dina hasn't been doing anything. She starts at a five, and she people have been talking. There's been talk about how she could win. Like there's been talk about people saying this girl's Dr court she's going to win this game. And I think that she's not doing anything. Normally I'd be like what are you doing? You're not doing anything. But this is the first week. And I feel like that's what she needs to be doing right now is nothing. So I she's doing exactly what she needs to be doing. No one's looking at her to leave. If anything they were looking to put her on the block, but not really have or go home. So I'm going to give her a five there you go. So if you are new to the stock watch what we're doing here, we're giving each player a rating, we're gonna take the average of the ratings that they receive and that is going to be there price for the stock watch rounded to the nearest whole number and the audience is part of that average. We I released the form earlier today on my Twitter, if you want to go see it, so you can. Vote. A next time. If you did not see it at Armstrong Taryn is where you can find it. It's a form that allows you to rate each player out of ten for their play this week in the game. So we polled the audience and the audience decided that Dina was a three out of ten. That's what the audience all right lower a bit lower than us on DNA. But I almost at three. Yeah. Exactly. Anyway, moving on moving on. Let's talk about I'll start going in the order of the spreadsheet here. Let's talk about Ryan Ryan is an interesting person to talk about here. He has definitely had a disastrous h however, the it's almost impossible not to have a disastrous h given the circumstances. He put somebody up on the block that wasn't really playing the game. He had to put end up putting four different people on the block because they were two different veto competitions and one of them left the game. And and also his closest ally is also on the block is probably going to be the one that leaves. So. Lot of things going wrong for Ryan. However, he's not exactly helping his case that said since Jonathan is the most likely person to leave. I think that's going to do wonders for Ryan's game. So it's it's all over the place here. It's he's a very difficult one to rate. I believe I ended up with a five out of ten four. Ryan, I think that he is likable enough. Even when watching the show where you can kind of just be like, it's just lovable Ryan he's just being a goof, and even when he's trash talking it's kind of silly. And it's kind of funny, and I think that if people underestimate him now that Jonathan is gone. If Jonathan dozen fact leave than I do feel like he has a chance to get to get far and to do. Well, so I gave him a five Melissa. What are your thoughts? Yes. Similar similar here. I if you start a mounted a five for me, then she has. He first of all, I think, you know, we all know, he's super athlete. A lot of the times. When an athlete comes in. Sometimes they don't do. Well, in these competitions at all for some reason, it just it doesn't fit in their wheelhouse. And they can't figure it out in everyone surprise that. They're losing everything. But clearly he can win competitions in big brother. So I feel like that will help him along the way if if Jonathan does he's made a lot of mistakes with Jonathan so that brings down a little bit. You know, they're not talking with the women. He just they really made a lot of fatal errors this week. I mean winning h in the first place might not have been his best move considering that like he shouldn't have been trying to show how big of a threat he is. But Jonathan leaves then it's possible that he could be seen as not as much of a threat because he's not tied to someone anymore. He's kind of like a lone wolf figure, and plus people already think that he's dumb. So they're not going to be really concerned about his mental ability, and they could probably just bring him into their group to win challenges for them and act as just like the Braun. So I all those. Goods and bads kind of cancel themselves out for me. And so it leaves him at a five for me. Hi, I'm gonna give them a three. I actually think he's played bad which is worse than not playing at all. He's deliberately done things to shoot himself in the foot. Worse thing is even here's the thing. I feel like you're right here that his game would improve Jonathan goes home because then he wouldn't be looked at as much of a threat. But if you like she's going to move on over to Joey like, it's going to be the Joey and Ryan show instead of Jonathan Ryan show, and it's just going to be he's going to be right back where he was. And he is the flashier a part of the pair. And I feel he'll always be victim over whoever. He's with you. They can't victim this time. Because of the fact that he's h h they even really kinda wanted to victim, but they couldn't because he was safe, obviously. And that's why in part why Jonathan's going home this week if he does go home tomorrow. So I feel like that. That's that's the thing. He does fit into the James maslow's slot. If somebody who is athletic and likeable and fun who you know is going to end up on the wrong side of the numbers quickly. And you know, maybe floats by a little bit here. But by the time, they get down to eight seven six houseguests. They're going to know they need to get rid of the sky. So he's going to have to comp out in order to win. And I don't see that happening. So I give them a three well the audience. This time is a bit more on our side, Melissa the audience gave him a five as well. So there we go five from the audience for Ryan, let's move on to Jonathan Jonathan an interesting one here seemingly has one foot out the door has not exactly been playing. Well, but we've talked about potentially has potential in the game. If he does survive, and it looks like there is a small chance that that happens. So for me right now, I think the Jonathan's playing very poorly this I'm rating him on this week. And this week is the most likely person to leave. He has played very poorly. I gave Jonathan a two out of ten and I feel good about it. I feel good about it too. Gave him a two as well just played badly. And then there are other times where he's played not at all. And that is a deathly combination to have. I don't know what he's thinking various times. I don't know why he just doesn't open up and have a great conversation with people and talk about what he's spiel. And of course, there are times where he's not even feeling anything. He he did mention to Ryan earlier today the days together, you guys. So don't don't come at me by screw up a day. He said to Ryan that I don't feel good about some of the questions that the diary room is asking me. And Ryan was like, well, what do you mean by that? He's like, oh, we'll yell at me. If I if I tell you what they are. Of course. I'm like, what are they tell us? He's like, no. But they were just really interesting. So it's obvious to me that they're asking them questions, but they should be asking him. Like do you feel safe right now? I mean, he is on the block, I know people in the Chad. And I saw people in Twitter are complaining about the fact that grottoes added again, she's trying to ruin a blindside for us. But no, I don't feel like those at all. They're just. Just asking him questions that you would ask any potential because they realize he's probably gonna get votes on Friday night, whether he wins whether he stays or not. So I just I I want to like him, but he's making it like really hard between not playing at all and playing badly when he is playing and I also don't even think he could win if he if he even survived this week and made it into the game. I don't even feel like you could win. If you've got to the end because I don't even feel like he's that sociable of a guy. Melissa. Yeah. I'm I'm kind of on the same level as you guys. It just it sucks because we have to we can only great, but we're giving and I feel like if this twist wasn't there. He'd probably would be playing a lot better. And we'd be considering him to be doing a great job. I mean, he made some correct moves in that. He partnered with Ryan locked the who is clearly the Braun for the two of their pairing. And it's smart to have that meet shield there to help you. And and normally you win if you're paired up with someone for Joe age, you win one of them gets to be joy age, usually the other person isn't automats on the block. So that like I mean, if you play by the normal standard he was doing things right this week until he wasn't. And then he was doing things really wrong. So. You know, it's unfortunate. But I do I do feel like he he's a probably gonna leave this week. He's out the door. They're still a chance that he could turn things around. I just don't see him doing that. I mean, I feel like it's easy. Like, we said earlier to just have a conversation with the women and see what you can do. But they're not doing that, which shocks me. So so, yeah, I'm going to give him a three, but returned to bring the factor into here and call this owed on Twitter, the Jonathan walks into rooms, and it's seen as shady or creepy by various people any Heron said, you know, what you should leave an article of clothing or a piece of property in each room that way when you walk in it doesn't look bad. Jonathan your superfan card is revoked because you're not doing any of that. You're just walking into rooms. And when people are having conversations, you're acting like deer in headlights like it's so awkward like I I have second hand embarrassment for the fact that you just walked in. And you're acting like usu- embarrassed. So stop doing that. Especially season like this. Where you you know, the other people, you know, whether or not they're fans of the game, whether or not they would know that strategy whereas in a regular season if you tried something like that. And then oh somebody's a secret superfan and knows about Andy Herren like veve caught you so bad. So he should be doing that. If if he had the knowledge there's somebody should've told him that going in Marissa. She's complaining on Twitter. Melissa Jarrett win over the winter blast season as complaining on Twitter. Jonathan is probably going to be the one going home. I'm like, well, it's mostly mostly to do with him. Like, he's the one who was caused this. And why don't you see that? She basically wants other people to come in and save him. And I'm like, that's not even their responsibility. He needs to go out there and get some votes. He's not doing it right now for me, whatever the audience is a little bit higher on Jonathan than we are the audience gave him a four probably in my been probably looking ahead to potential if he stays which I I'm with you on that, especially because I think there's also potentially a great a great incur of here where he was screwed by twist, and you probably wouldn't be leaving. If not for that twist. So that's. I think I think that's a fair rating though, for me I'm looking at this week, and if he survives and moves moves forward pass this week, then then I'll him accordingly that way next up is candy, Melissa how do you feel about candy this week? For candy. It's hard because if it was just her own playing I think I would grade her differently, but because of the tame our of fight or tension, or whatever I have to grade her based on that as well. So, you know, I don't think candy herself is playing poorly. I don't think that she's doing about job. I think that the problem is she's being dragged into this drama. And now she's associated with drama. She's I mean, she's got someone on the other side of her. Gonna vote for her at every turn is going to ask her to put up on the block at every turn and his creating tension in the house, and is creating animosity, and it's like, it's it's hard to separate her from that, which is unfortunate because I don't think she's playing poorly to begin with. I think that she's not really handling the tame our drama, very well. Because I think that she I mean, she recognizes that taymor is volatile. And even if candy is in the right here. I think that she for the sake of the game like this is real life cycle. Whatever be defenders do what you need to do for the sake of the game. If I were her I would be saying, I'm so sorry. Let's very the hatchet. I'm really sorry. You were hurt. And not I hurt you. And I never meant to hurt you, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah to make sure that taymor doesn't go out there and target her. But instead, she's like, she's she's trying to defend herself. Even though maybe she's totally in the right in this situation. It's better to just apologize and like trion just put that to bed. So that way you can move forward in the game without having someone literally standing there trying to get you out at every turn. So. All that to say, I think I would have to rate candy. I'd have to rate a four just because I feel like there's a lot of drama going on. Yeah. I read it in a forward to sorry to jump in. But I gave her a four to the problem is I get them asking myself. Can she win? I think probably think she can get tomorrow's vote, but she could probably win the game at the end. She's being used as a number by other people. I don't see you're doing anything actively to try to further herself in the game. People are coming to her saying, okay. We've got your back when Tom comes to her and said, don't worry, we've got your back. She's asked a couple of questions, but she doesn't seem that engaged in a game right now. So that's why feel like she's just she's not giving me enough right now to give her a better rating other than four. Yeah. I hear what Melissa sayings. Well, where I do think that she unfortunately handled this situation improperly in the big brother house where when tame our says, I felt this respected and all of these things you can't laugh at her. You got to pretend you agree and be some so sorry. I it's all my fault. Give her everything. She's every added let her look the way that she wants to look, and my first thought was then in the dire room say how terrible you think she is. But then I remembered. Yeah. Oregon turn to the camera. But then I remembered, oh, they watched the show after. Watch the feeds I don't think so turn to the camera on your about it. I take your point that I would I would even like that go in the room and treasure because if you get to the end, at least, you can get to the end, you know, maybe get her vote at the end. But at least you can get. She's not she's not gunning for you the entire time. But she will not do it. It's better than nothing to go on the dire room. But if you wanna play really hard, then you go to the diary and say Tamara, she really made me understand. Why was in the wrong? And then then when they pronounced candy unanimously, you have one big brother celebrity to she comes out. And she's like oh thank God. I don't have to keep pretending that neymar was in the right? Because you know, what else are you gonna do? But yes, this is not not the greatest not the greatest way to handle this. She doesn't seem super social with the rest of the house. She's not really fitting in anywhere in particular. But she is seen as a number. And I do think that she has some amount of respect from her fellow houseguests. So I think that's important. I think that she can make it far she is in potential danger of leaving this week. So that's not super great either. I gave her a four because I think she has potential, but right now, it's not looking super super great. The by the way before you tell us what the audience gave her. I do want to point out because I was going to say this. I forgot doom reminded me a chap that it's important to realize inside the house candy is viewed as the victim. So everybody in the house even people that like, Tim are they really do. Enjoy candy. And they really don't understand why taymor is coming at her. Like this white why she just can't get over it. So can't he has like the. I'm gonna say the loyalties of the houseguests, but in in view of this white she does. So she's coming off well in that regard, and even came are got out of the house and can't even in the final two and try to, you know, get people to campaign and vote again, sir. I don't think that they would really put much stock in that because they know where that's coming from. So I I think that I don't know. I just wanted to point out that everybody likes candy in the house, even if they're not working with they they enjoy her. And they don't think she's at fault when it comes to this fight. Yes. And in particular, Tom, Ricky Kato, and Joey have all worked to talk to candy and nice to her and be like, hey, we get we get what's going on. So important to know the audience agrees with us here. They gave her a four out of ten. So that's going to be a four average. For candy fours across the board. Next up is Joey talk. Doc about Joey talk about this bitch. I'm so on so mad at the person that cast this guy on the show. Not only is he like a terrible person to have on the show. But he's also really weird. And like I can't get over him. Using the dish soap to wash the vegetables today. Most I know you or work. Did you see this about it? The dish soap to wash the asparagus because apparently it is cleaning for him. He's also complaining about the fact that they don't have a dishwasher he thinks that that's so unsanitary. Oh my God. What did he do for a hundred years before when they didn't have a dishwasher? Oh my God. I just can't let look besides the pettiness of it all which I'm being Eddie by by bringing this up a he's just he's no fun on the feeds. And I I really don't think he's gonna fight that hard to be there. Even if like the opportunity presented itself and in the positioning comes open, and he's like, oh, I've got a good shot. I could make a run at this. I don't think he even really thinks about the game in those. Manners. Like when he said that I don't believe in alliances at the beginning of the week. I think he meant that like I mean, I know that he's sort of working with Ryan and Jonathan right now. And maybe that will continue even of Jonathan is ultimately the victim. But he he says things like only here for the competitions not even here for the personal strategies. I don't like stuff like that. And he's just a Downer. Like his is energy like I will take Tamar tame ours. Energy over Joey's energy any day. He's just so negative all the time. I can't stand it. So I give them a to just because I don't like it. Even people who won't call it an alliance, but will call them his friends that I hate that much or they're like, no friends. We're job and years. Like, we're not too good on the show. Seriously. I will say that I was really enjoying him a lot more than I thought on the feeds. I I thought he was fun to watch and funny. And I I like some of the stuff he said. And I I guess the some of the motivational stuff. He said was like pretty sweet. So I really thought it was gonna like absolutely hate him. And didn't absolutely hate him. Which was like a major improvement. I don't like his game barter. Yeah. Right. I don't like his his game play. Because it just doesn't seem like he cares. Like, I thought you know, it was hopeful that maybe you would come into the house and we'd see that. He actually does care, but the whole like, I don't believe in alliances thing. Like really got me. I don't like that at all. So yeah, I think I'm going to I'm going to give him I'm going to give him a three because the fact that you're telling your approach with his big alliance opportunity, which not a lot of people are given. And he he just shoes them up and says, I don't believe in alliances. I don't I don't want to have any part in this and that doesn't bode well for the future. Because now these people aren't going to come to you for an alliance at all like, they're not going to try again, they might say I'll work with you. But they're not gonna they're not gonna try a real alliance with him. And they're not going to trust him. And I just think that he doesn't care enough about the game. And that's why I'm raking him so low. All right, Joe is tough on here. He definitely has a lot of faults. However, he is one of the people that I think could win the game. Because despite the fact that he's easy to make fun of. And I think as fans it's frustrating to watch somebody who. Seems like he's a little bit above it. The rest of the house is kind of okay with Joey they do kind of like him. He has been kind to some of them at times. Even though when I watch him makes me want to potentially stab my eyes because he seems condescending I they don't seem to see it. So that's important to note. And also, they don't really see him as much of a threat. He is you know, he's he's on the block and nobody's really talking about taking any kind of shot at him. He's not really on anybody's radar to be targeted anytime soon. So I kind of reluctantly am a little bit higher than you guys on him at the moment. It could turn around. I feel like my my like instincts on his personality. Make me feel like at some point. He's going to rub the house the wrong way. But right now he hasn't and judging on this week. I gave him a four I feel like he's right around the candy spot. Hire also one of their thing that brings him down to me that he agreed to go on the block as a pawn. And I always give negative points for that. Yes. Well, the audience is a little more aligned with with you guys the audience gave him a three this week, not super pleased with Joey no, they don't like him and his hair and is pushing. Remember who said it in the chat? But the only reason why we would want Joey to say is to see if his hair grows because it ain't gonna it's a tattoo, or it's it's a hair transplant has in the chat. He's telling me that he thinks that he had a beer transplant. I asked. Julia. Apparently, this is a thing that Kyle from the challenge also had a beard transplant and is pretty convinced that Joey his touted beer transplant. So that he can look like the evil villain mastermind guy. I don't know. Why would you do that? But. Early like squares in his. Yeah. Let's talk about Kato. Kato another interesting person to talk about he was immune this week. So I don't really know how people feel about Cato the win. Somebody's immune. Nobody even talks about targeting them because they can't. So I've no idea whether or not he might have been a candidate for the block if he was eligible, I don't know how he's not super rubbing people the wrong way. But he's another person where I feel like Shirley, his sense of humor is at some point going to get into a little bit of trouble. However at the moment, he seems mostly okay? And he's with Tom in a great position one of the best positions in the house. He's not exactly the most strategic player, but he did win veto which is some things for his his compability. And I do think that again, I'm really looking at the players who are trash talking a lot in the diary room or in the house, and I feel like you really gotta be careful of that. With this kind of season of big brother, and he is not one of those people he is mostly kind. And I think that goes a long way. So I I'm cautiously optimistic about Kato I feel like he's around replacement level here because of the spot I gave him a five, Melissa. What did you think? While you're thinking, I will go ahead and talk about Kato. I look I think he's pretty likable guy agree of Tarrant that overall I think that he's somebody that people could vote for but he doesn't seem to be thinking much about the game. Like, he it seems like he's thinking just one step ahead. Not three. Steps ahead. It's very ABC. Put the square peg in the square hole kind of game. And Joan I say, it's true. It's a short season, and he has someone working with Tom. So maybe he does need to be smart. But I don't feel like he will be able to make it to the end. But I do feel like he is likable enough. And currently no one is even talking about. Of course, you mentioned by virtue of the fact that he is immune. But besides that he hasn't made any waves. Nobody said anything negative about him. I do worry that it could be put on the block as a pun because nobody's really that friendly with him besides Tom, but other than that, I feel like it's very incomplete right now what's going on with Kato. Basically the questions are is he making any enemy. No Kenny win the game. Yes. And because of that, I give them a five. All right. I agree with you guys are saying I'm impressed with first of all where he is in the game. I think he's a really good position. I'm impressed that he won the veto the fact that he's working with Tom. I think is really good. You know, the strategy conversations team hem and Tom seem to be mainly Tom proposing. Why don't we do this? Maybe we should think about this. And then him being like, oh, really? But he he seems to be kind of catching on, and they seem to be kind of throwing ideas off of each other. And I think I could see him moving forward in the game learning and picking it up. But at this point, it's hard to tell the negatives in his game the possible negatives in his game. Are that you're right? He hasn't made a lot of friends that doesn't seem his personality might rub people the wrong way of actually I mean, there's only so many of these kinds of jokes that you can take. So I do think that he he might run into trouble later. But for now, I think he's doing well. So I'm going to give them a six go the audience agrees with you, Melissa the audience gave him a six feeling good about Kato. That is going to increases average price there too. I believe. Six. So highest rated player far is keta. How by the way, Melissa I apologize. If I did county bear, I didn't mean to sound like this shot is calling me out for being that. I was rude to you didn't look like you're ready to go. Like, it was like one of those times caring asked me a question. And I'm like, what did you say? Like, I I'm not ready to say anything. So. Islets between six and seven for him. And then I was looking through and thinking about the other players, and whether he would be on the same level as some of them. So that it was fine. Okay. I don't want to be looked at as a bad guy. Tearing. I thought you needed a lifeline. Nobody would ever call. You the villain of the podcast. Certain true. Didn't Kevin Martin call me. When he was at. That. Let's talk about Tom the villain of the Tom green show. Tom is an interesting one. I in my opinion, he is playing the best game in the house at the moment. I think that he is the smartest person in the house. I think that he really he looked out in the sense that because he's smartest person in the house, and that's kind of obvious. He was going to get targeted pretty quickly. And he was but there was a lot of craziness that happened around it and he ended up getting saved. And now he's in a pretty nice position. And I really like where he is. I think he is probably of the rest of the house the most capable of handling that position. I don't like this talk of potentially saving Jonathan. But that's a that's a minor flaw compared with basically everyone else's was. So for me, Tom is going to get the highest rating of the rest of the houseguests seven for Tom from me. I like what he's doing on cog and cautiously optimistic I feel like this one might go down or it might stay. Consistent. I have a hard time seeing it going up based on his knowledge level of the game. But we'll see could happen rent. What do you think? Yes, I agree with your rating of seven here. The thing that I do worry about is. He is Tom green has -bility currently to walk the line where he makes jokes about people in the room. But it's not done in a malicious way like you shading them. So it feels like you're in on the joke. But if it veers over into Ross territory where they feel like the celebrities. I'm talking about who are going to be on the jury they feel like they're being laughed at or made fun of by him. Then I do feel like it could go downhill, however, that's just conjecture that speculation. So I will refrain from judging him on anything that could potentially happen other than the fact that he's playing really really well right now. And I do think he could win the game as things currently stand. And so I feel I mean, I feel great about him. I kinda wanna give them a better score than a seven. But this game is so nuts right now with lots of moving pieces and volatile personalities that I'm reluctant to push in my chips on anybody else or any. That high. So yeah, I'll give them a seven, Melissa. Yeah. I actually gave him a seven as well. Because Tom, I think he's playing really, well, I think he is he's learning and picking things up about the game where any any strategically thinking, I like his mind is in the right place. Whereas I feel like other people aren't necessarily they're and they're trying to think about these little tweaks and little things that you could do to put yourself in a better position moving forward. And I feel like he is thinking like that. And so I I'm very excited about him. He's I like his alliance of Kato. I think that they are in a good place. He also proved that he was pretty athletic on that first night when he came pretty close to winning the HOA JR. And I I just I think that he's doing really well another thing is I think it's interesting that he was able to get someone to use the veto on him in the first week. Where I feel like a lot of the time. People are like I don't wanna put myself out there and use the Beato this early. Like, I feel like let's just respect the h wishes, and let's do this. But he made a big enough grit. Good enough bond with Cato Cato was willing to use veto on him. And I think that's huge. He was able to do that. So yeah, I'm impressed with Tom's game. And I'm excited to see where he goes. So a seven to all right straight sevens. For Tom the audience agrees with us seven out of ten for. We're really in sync with the audience here. Yeah. Doing pretty good. Let's talk about taymor. Let's talk about team are interesting person. She's probably the most knowledgeable of the houseguests about the game. She's a superman a long time. However, there are some weird gaps in her knowledge that strike means odd. She is very volatile. She got into an argument with Ricky about whether or not he was in a room with candy. We've done some investigation the Twitter, folks. And it seems as though Ricky is telling the truth when he says he was not in a room with candy when she says he was in a room with candy, but she will not accept that. As an answer. She is very very insistent upon the fact that no you, I know what's happening. Don't even try to deny denying is basically an all out attack on me and everything I stand for and I do not appreciate that. And that's not even to get into everything that's been happening with candy. And the fact that she is willing to just like throw everything away her alliance her strategy just like no candy needs to go. It's all about how candy is making her look, she's she she feels like candy is making her look like she's crazy. Leave that up to your own interpretation. I guess, but but yes, this is definitely a volatile player and not easily relied upon and that's how a lot of the other players are looking at her even the ones that are kind of aligned with or might want to work with our. They're like can we rely on her though because she won't listen to anyone. She just has her own ideas. And we'll just go along with those. So tricky situation here, Melissa, what do you think? What what rating did you give taymor? Yeah. It's it's really hard because I was impressed with her. I was impressed with her in the preseason interviews. I was impressed. With her initially when she was talking about burying the hatchet with candy. And really when we weren't seeing her on the live feeds like when it was an edited version of her. I would like yes, she's doing great job. She's really like she's strategizing. She's trying to put this her past behind her and move forward and not let it affect her game. Well, in the second the life beads came on that all blew right out the window because she got in a fight with candy over literally nothing. It was like the definition of relevance. Really didn't even make sense that wasn't me commenting on. It literally was with if I was about the definition of rela relevant whether someone's relevant or not it's like the dumbest thing I've ever heard in my life, and it was just like rehashed and rehashed and rehash even after candy left the room. It was like over and over again the story had to be told to each person over. And over and over, and it's like enough like people in there like if you guys pretended like you didn't have anything between you and candy like people wouldn't have known. I mean, even Lolo and Natalie we're talking about like we need to Google this stuff because we have no idea what their fight is about. And even still no one's really told them what the fights about. I don't really know what the fights. I've heard like little snippets of the fight. I still don't understand it. So the outsider's perspective. It's like just like we've it like, I don't get why we're still harping on this like this is a game to this isn't real. I can just walk away. And be like, you know, what we're not. We're never going to be friends. So let's just leave it be you're absolutely right that she's trying to. She's going to throw away her game and her strategy just to prove a point and just to get candy out and just not work with candy and just stick to candy. And that is not what a good big brother player does not only that like we're talking about earlier, even if candy leaves the house that's not going to solve this problem. Jamar is going to find a problem with any other person who's in there. It's not just just candy though. She is she feeds on drama. She feeds on arguments. She needs on this sort of thing. And that's that doesn't bode well for when you're living in a house with a bunch of people that you don't know very well. So I just don't feel confident about her game. At all. I think that if she does turn on the charm again, like if she just like hold it together and turns on the time, she can do great because she is very charming. She's very fun. She's very funny. She's infectious when she laughs, you know, you wanna laugh with her. But if she can't. If she can't put the personal stuff to the side, then she's knocking to do. Well, so sorry, those long rant about it. But she I I gotta give her. So I gave I gave candy of four and I got it. I feel like I need to give Tamar a three because I feel like candies trying at least put the pass minor. And I don't like team are doing that. So I'm gonna give him at three. Yeah. I gave her a three as well. Unfortunately, it really sucks because I want to like her what am I saying why want to like I love her. I love everything she's giving me for a television show. But as far as the game goes, it's really really terrible. I mean, I don't want to belabor the point. But my God, what is wrong with you woman? Like, why can't you let this go? I don't know. If it's I realize you feel like it's a symptom of the fact that she is the she says, she's the youngest of six peop- of six people in her family, six children, and she obviously is not the most famous sister of them all and I feel like she just doesn't want to be embarrassed. She doesn't want to be talked to like that. She doesn't want to be told what to do. She doesn't want to be had. And I feel like she feels like candy is trying to like she's trying to have her. You know, what I mean, she's trying to make her look bad while candy gets to look like something else, which is not what's happening here. But that's her perception of it. And I. Kept way. I was like, Melissa. I kept waiting for them to really tell me what the hell's going on. Because I Winston to YouTube. I my friend semi the information about what happened in the real life. But all the stuff that taymor keeps talking about doesn't seem like it has any relevance to this stuff that I previously told rob about at all it's other stuff she's complaining about and so I just I'm like, I keep waiting for her to be like, well, what happened was and then, but then Dever comes. It's just like more like hand wringing over the fact that you're Pissy with her. Yeah. The fact that you can't let it go. It has to be said that you're not a very good big brother player, if you can't let something like this go like I was getting on canting about the fact that she can't just, you know. Giving she wanted team are also can't let it go and brings up at every turn. And then goes after Ricky by virtue of the fact that he was little friendly with candy. I mean, like, I'm not even again, I I told to tearing Melissa I'm not even convinced that this would stop even if candy left the game. I'm not even sure she could win at the end because Twitter loves her. However, as I'm watching the chat, they're alive people who are starting to get off the tame our train and in the public is against you. I don't feel like the celebs are going to be with you. So she needs to watch yourself here because it was fun for a while. We're like all my gosh. She's giving me life, and I'm still there. But it could get point where you look just kind of mean. And I mean, he just seems like the type of person who thinks that everyone's out to get her. And that like everyone's trying to do a wrong. And that's like it's not gonna make anyone like you. Because it's going to go from person to person to person near is always going to be someone who's making you look bad or making you, you know, out to be stupid or anything like that. And that's like basically the game of big brother. So she's not going to do well in his house. I will say tame our is my favorite kind of wild card because she is a wildcard who knows the game. So her her Neue is not an unheard dramatics. Are not just like, oh, I just hate this person. I just want to get this. I just hate this person because of this and whatever she's turning it into game conspiracy theories. We're candies the mastermind behind some grand plot to get rid of her to discredit her. And and Ricky is now part of it and Ricky as pulling the wool over you guys. Is you got you got you can't listen to Ricky. He's lying to you about this game thing, and she's turning her personal drama paranoia into game paranoia. And I love that. I think it's I think it's interesting. I think it adds a nice spicy element to the game. I will say per arguments are already wearing a little thin on me. That's that's what's a little dry like listening to her talk to Ricky for the fifth time for another half hour hour about the same thing. And. That's that's not my favorite part of it. But I like I like what she does a player. So I'm interested in that regard. However in terms of rating for game, I agree with Brent. I've really hard time seeing or win. Nobody really respects her that much as we've talked about the all think that candy's kind of in the right here and she getting into arguments with other people, and when you get into arguments where you just like refuse to accept the truth from somebody, and you're accusing them of something and not only are you not believing them which is infuriating enough. But you're like attacking them for daring to deny something that is truly something that should be denied because it's the truth. So it's like, it's fed. It's eerie. That's that's terrible. It's you're never gonna wanna vote for that person to win. Were you looking at me when you said that? Hey, look. Yeah. I mean, people have called us candy and tomorrow. I was like who am I? So all that said, I I gave it to. I'm not very high on her chances here the audience, however, little bit higher than us, the the audience gave her a four so the audience feels like she's in there with a shot here. So. Living for what she's serving. Feel like. Voting on game play. Yeah. True. By the way. Apparently, I didn't look at the form. But I got a lot of people. Giving you praise over the fact that whatever form you put up this time was easier to use. If you haven't if you didn't do the form last year when it was a little harder harder to use makes you do it this year in going into other candidates seven and be Twenty-one because Taryn has improved it. Yeah. I think I can even look at like the average time it took to complete it. But can't right now. Yeah. It's great. It's it's on survey. Monkey now, it's it's a lot easier, especially their questions we can rank things by dragging and dropping so super easy. Not as last time. You don't even have to sign in like you did with Google forms. Do it easy. All right. Let's talk about Natalie. Eva marie. And the first thing I wanna say in her preseason interviews. She said my name is Natalie. Eva marie. I've three names. What do we call? You. Choose whatever one you want. We had three options Natalie. Eva Marie Natalie is the longest of those three not only is it the longest of those three it has a long history of being used in big brother previously. So why is it that everyone is saying Natalie I understand that they're calling avenue in the house, and but why why isn't production shutting this down? She should be called Eva or Marie or nam. I don't even care. Just not Natalie Natalie is the one that doesn't make sense. Why is this happening? Please. Explain this to me, Melissa. I don't know. I was telling her Natalie from the start. So now, I'm now I'm live now. I don't know what to call her what? Jared mad at me. No, I'm really I'm really really liking her game play so far. I think that she's doing really good job of kind of. Trying to semi mediate between these mar- candy fights. Although I feel like a lot of people are trying to do the same thing with that. But I do feel like she's getting along with people. And also, I like her friendship with low. I think that the two of them are really great. Also, we didn't see Natalie have to compete in the first h away or the or the the veto. I don't know about the third veto. But at least in the first two competitions. We didn't see your compete. So I feel like that's a good thing for her because it doesn't show her as being this this strong athlete, whereas people are going to be looking obviously at the Olympic athletes before they look at her even though she liked trains, Jim all day. So I really am impressed with the way that she's thinking about the game and the way that she's moving forward. So I'm going to give her a seven, and I just put my hands in an eight. But I meant. No, okay. Brentwood or your thoughts on nem? Yeah. I really really like her and I liked coming into this season of the thing that really strikes me is that she knows how to deal with taymor. She's the only one in the house that really seems to. I think I tweeted earlier or someone else weeded, I reach wait it, she's like the chicken, mar whisper, I think it was not Liguori actually said that she's the tame our whisper she's able to get her to calm down. I don't know if she speaks her language, she's got that specific vibe. But she's able to like she doesn't put up with that kinda shit from taymor and tame are like hypes down when any gets it tour. So I'm kinda here for that. Everyone else seems to really like her. I think she is up leading. She could go along way. She's likable. I feel like that. If you're looking at somebody who okay, we have to give the money to somebody. I like to give it to her. Like, I hurt Dina Lohan at the end, I'm giving it to Nedal, even you know what I'm saying. I want to give it to her. She can obviously use the money, and I feel like there's some people there who could use the money more. Than others. And she's one of those about help, sir aside from the fact that she's in an alliance with a meat shield in Lolo Jones. I also feel like low is more of a just a meat show. But also more volatile or likely to get into with somebody. I keep waiting for the other shoots draw based on what Alex insane on Twitter about Nedal, even Maria. But I haven't seen it yet. What I've seen the house has been really good. So that's why I give her an eight. All right. Well, I am I guess a little bit lower on Natalie than U2.. I really liked where she was prior to Ricky getting involved in kind of poisoning the well with Jonathan and Ryan that said, I think she's still capable player. And I think that she has decent instincts. She's good social issues. Good physically. So I do feel like she's one of the better players in the house her positioning, though has deteriorated a little bit. So for that reason, I have given her six I do think that she is. She has the. Possibility to go up from here, especially if I mean, if Tom decides to let's let's keep Jonathon, let's reunite Jonathan with Lolo. And and Natalie I think that would be amazing for her. And I think that she would be in a great spot, and I'd probably swap her and Tom around, but the way things go I do feel like Tom is little bit of a better position than she is and little little more capable of handling that position potentially. We'll see. But for now, a six for me is where we're going to land with Natalie the audience with a close one, but they are with me on this one the audience gave Natalie a six out of ten. There we go. Excellent. So I believe that's going to average out to six or seven might be seven. I think it's seven low low is up next here. Let's talk about Lolo. Yes. Natalie is going to be seven dollars. Let's talk about low low low low is an interesting one. I think that Lolo is basically everything that you said about Natalie's position applies to Lolo. But worse, I feel like Lolo is less capable socially, maybe more capable physically probably more capable physically. But that's a bad thing. I think that makes her more of a target, and I think she's less likely to win in the end, especially that talk about being jealous of Ryan. I feel like that's not a great look. It's not something that a lot of people would be like. Yeah, I respect the fact that you were jealous, and that's why you made a game move. So not very pumped about that. I think that of the two of them if they succeed it's going to be because Natalie helps them succeed, which means that Natalie is going to be with Lolo moving forward. And if Natalie is with Lolo all the way to the end, I feel like Natalie beats Lolo, so. I'm having a hard time seeing her paths to the end where she also wins that said she's still in a pretty decent spot right now. It would not super surprise me. If she was the next person out or maybe the person after the next person out, I think that she could be targeted pretty soon, especially from the men who she's about to betray. But I gave her a four that was that was my thought I gave her a four Charon. Wow. All go ahead. Okay. I'm gonna go to echo Teheran because you disagree with him. So I also gave her a four the thing. A couple of things here. I feel like she's actually pretty cold where people are like well cry white you send a brand there's no evidence that we have seen evidence of that. I don't feel like she could actually win. If she got into the game. Also, the fact that her and dental even Marie I feel like that she the Lolo will always be the one targeted over any 'em. So there's that and the fact that she seems weirdly possessive and yet antagonistic of Ryan various times, she can't seem to make up her mind about what she wants. I don't even feel like she's playing like it's like I said before about I can't remember who I was talking about where you can either not play the game play the game badly, and I feel like playing the game badly is worse than playing gave it all. And I do feel like she's been playing the game badly, and I talked about previously before the pike has started. She's given up her position in the house. Whereas they wore the pair in the house that decides everything. But now, they're not that hearing more. And of course, you can say we'll Ricky it's been the cause of some of that that's true. But they allowed it to happen. They didn't double check with the boy. Lolo gutter feelings hurt and here we are. So they've given up that positioning of the middle pair to Tom and Kato. So by virtue of that fact, I feel like that Lolo has to be a four right now. Because if I was average she's a little bit below average for me. I really light Lolo. I I feel like she's everything that I said about Natalie, and but the problem is there's a little bit of all Attila there. I think that she's she can be pretty aggressive with people, and she's not I mean so far. I mean, I've heard some things about Natalie being confrontational. But we haven't really seen any of that. Whereas with lowly we've seen her be confrontational. I mean, luckily, these confrontations aren't like confrontations yet. But I could see a situation where they are big confrontations. Big fight, big, whatever. And I think people already are a little nervous about her. I mean, she kinda got into it with Tamar just briefly. I mean, then the whole flipping thing off with Brian. And I just I'm I'm a little worried about her moving forward. And like you said she is the meat shield for Natalie. So she is. The bigger threat physically. So I can't rancor as high as Natalie. But I still think she's doing a good job. And I think she isn't a good position. So I'm going to give her a six. Really quickly. I take your point about the fact that we've seen a little bit of volatility on the show like when she got into fight with taymor over. Woah, seemingly inconsequential. And the fact that she's been really, but heard about the fact that Ryan has a friend when she has a final to deal with Nedal. Even re I never understand that when people are hypocritical. Can't you see how hypocritical you're being? I've also seen where she's been confrontational the challenge. Previously. And the thing is I feel like we have some confirmation of that based on her fights with a few people, even though they were small fights. And they didn't last very long or even some awkwardness here. I feel like that some of the stuff that I saw the challenge. I'm seeing here on big brother, and we've only we've only seen her for seven days now over four weeks. I feel like that she is not going to rub people the right way. I'm calling her out by week four. I don't have much faith in lovo Jones. Yeah. And again like the flipping off the picture of Ryan on the memory. That's and talking about being jealous. And that's why that's just childish behavior. So I know some people are like, hey, you're giving Joey a four and low low of four, but it's like I feel like Joey can win in the end. He does actually have some respect from his house guests, whereas I don't know if Lolo can take it. I really I'm not joking especially and I don't think she can't lie is somebody who I think would win over her at least as it stands right now based on this week's game play. So that's how I feel about it. However, the audience is with Melissa the audience gave Lolo a six out of ten feeling good about most of my ratings have tracked with audience. So, you know, it's kinda thing. When Lobo leaves after the fourth Vic shit, I'll be here going, okay? All right. Finally, we've got Ricky and interesting one because I was I was kind of like lukewarm on Ricky like feeling I would even say lukewarm. I feel like we really didn't think he was a player here. We thought he was just taking like. Like I felt like this is a friendly guy who is going to make it far. And then have a shot to win at the end. Then he stepped up and really just demolished the six personal Lyons has really stirred the pot has really gotten in a few people's ears. He knows what he's doing. He's put himself in a pretty great spot. So now, I'm feeling really good about Ricky. I'm like, wow. Ricky's like potentially one of the better players on the show. Then today he's being a little weird. And I'm not sure why and. It's a little he's he's a little pushy. And it's like he's trying to conduct Terron show interviews like taking people hostage, and forcing it on them. It's it's a little strange, and he's also being mean about it. And I don't like that. I think that that sort of counters his image is like the big friendly guy. And that's what's kind of been talking the been talked about even Tom like what's up with Ricky. It's like one one second. He's great and another second. He's like weird. And Ryan, and Joey believe we're talking about it to like Ricky been weird today like what's up with this? So I I'm a little more torn on him than I was before. I feel like maybe what's happening here is. I think he found some success when he stepped up he started playing the game. And now he's feeling a little like, yeah. I got this this game. He's feeling many. Thank you start feeling that good feeling himself a little bit today. And so I'm not as high on him as I might have been. But I do think he has some skills in this game. He's still not exactly a target for anyone. And I still think he hasn't demolished reputation enough, and it's probably not capable enough of demolishing his reputation to not win in the end. So I gave him a six maybe maybe today is a little bit of a blip on the radar and it won't reappear. If it reappears again next week, this is probably going to go down, and we'll probably continue to go down. But if this is just a one time thing it just happened today. There's recency buys for it. Then we'll see how it goes. But for now, it's tended tentative six and we'll see we'll see where it goes from there. Brent what are your thoughts? Yeah. I gave them a Sixers. Well, and I'm looking at the fact that he is done some good things. And he's also done some bad things. And I feel like I'm still waiting for the will the real Ricky Williams. Please stand up. It's hard to say because I am not like I said, I was not convinced that some of the positive things he was doing was on purpose. But then today, I'm kinda like was that on purpose. Like, why are you being bitchy? Why are you getting into fights with people? Why are you saying things that you shouldn't when you know, people are probably going to take or could take offense to it. So I still don't quite know what I'm getting from Ricky. I want to believe that he's like a secret mastermind genius behind the scenes who really knows what he's doing because that would just floor me. And I'd be like, oh my God. That's so cool that I mean like the house gets totally give it to him. If he made it to the end if he was like this super genius because you never suspected coming from him. It's one thing if somebody uses specked, and you made like you feel like you were had against, but I feel like people if Ricky pulled one over on these people, and you. Made it to be end. They would be like man, we gotta give it to you. You you use it that you were amazing. But I'm not convinced that that's really what's happening here. So. He's played better average, but not by a lot. So that's why I gave us six Melissa. Yeah. I feel the same way as you guys. Do you know before the game started? I was like this guy is he doesn't care about the game. He's not gonna do anything. He's going to like just go out pretty easy. It's it's nothing. And then you know, once we saw him playing. I was really impressed with him. First of all he one of beat. Oh, second of all he he was able to maneuver his way through that. Taymor candy fight pretty well. And still come out looking good to both sides. Even though they were both kind of trying to come to him to get them. Get him to be on their side. He's still looked like he was on both sides at the same time while complimenting like taymor when he was talking to her by defending candy by complementing taymor. Just he was somehow he will the pull that off. And it was really impressive. And also he's planting seeds. Dowell in basically broke up that giant alliance. So that was all really impressive. But you know, his performance today was just not really great. And if you'd asked me last night, I would have given him a much better score than I am right now. But now, I just feel like I can't just because I mean, I don't know what today was about. So we'll just have to wait and see. But I'm going to give them a six. All right. The audience gave Ricky a seven out of ten. Hi received the highest average rating of all of the players just above Tom probably worth noting that about half of the people who took this survey took it before Ricky did the weird stuff today. Yeah. So that probably has a little bit of influence on that score. But for now, Ricky is going to get a sixes, and then a seven, and I'm pretty sure that everage is out to be a six seven. So. It's hard. I love your tweets about the fact that you had to listen to people try to do math like simple basic map for about an hour, and how infuriating it was to watch that. That was really funny seconds is sixty six minutes is it like eleven hundred. I'm not sure. So so I kind of forgot to set this up probably won't do it this time, and it's probably not super important, but I'm thinking for future purchases and selling things that what we will try to do is send in our buying and selling decisions to Alexandra who's working behind the scenes on this wonderful chart here. And then and then we'll just reveal them. So that we're not influenced by each other's buying and selling 's, and I think that might be more fun. So we're not like trading like, oh, who's got the worst position this time. So I missed that. So what do we do? So. How's going crazy? It's not super important for this particular podcast. But for next time, we're going to do something a little bit different. But for now, we're just going to go ahead and make our purchases here. Yes. And we have twenty dollars to spend. Here we go moving over to the buying and selling chart, here lovely. All right. So I thought about allowing us to short stocks. I really wanna short some stocks. But then I realized that like you only short stocks because everybody goes down eventually except for right, basically. So you'd make a lot more money shorting than buying. It would be a whole mess. So all right. So we're going to start buying some stocks here do either of you have any ideas that you ready with now or or should I try and go on the fly here? Go on the fly. Right. Okay. So interesting stuff to look at here. We got Joey three dollars. I personally feel like that's pretty cheap for Joey. I do think he's got a shot to win something. Interesting to note is that the next round table will be Thursday. I believe there will be two people victim in the time between now and Thursdays. That correct, I think so. If you happen to buy the person that's going to be a victim before the next round table. Then you will have no warning. And no chance to sell before that person leaves. And as I mentioned before if they are so dead in the water and playing poorly enough that they get an average of one than they're just out of it entirely. And you can't sell them before they get voted out there. They're worthless. So things to note, you have to be very careful, especially on this big brother celebrity season because these people are going to go like crazy. So I am the fact that you can sell your stocks back at the regular price means even more, basically, you're you're holding your money when you buy these things, you know, when you when you put money into stocks, you're you're holding your money, and and as long as they don't get victims. And of course, they could go down. But as long as they don't get a victim your money, you can still get your money back by selling it back next week. But if victim and you're screwed. So it's really important not to by people who you could big business. Go by people who are going to be victim mmediately like. If they have any shot to be a be evicted immediately. That's probably going goodbye. Probably not. All right. So I'm going to go ahead and make some preliminary purchases here, I'm gonna buy Joey I'm gonna I'm gonna take Joey cheap three dollars. And I'm also going to buy a DNA for four dollars. I'm going to start start with some of the cheaper options here for now. Zander is updating the chart as we go. So I could just tell you what I wanna do is ready. Okay. Cool. I am going to I still believe in her and craziest. She is. I still think there might be a crazy way for her to make it to the end. So I'm gonna buy to tame our stocks at three dollars a piece, so I'm spending six dollars. And I'm also I may not be done buying yet. But I do wanna buy some of her even though she is a little high right now, I believe in Natalie Marie? I just have not been dissuaded from the fact that she is a good player. She's able to talk to tame our she's able to communicate with the other house, guess, she's very likable. She's a buttocks. She's fun. I think she could get the money at the end if it was up for a vote someone to buy one share of Natalie. Eva marie. So that leaves me I have purchased thirteen dollars worth of stuff, and I still have seven dollars leftover. All right. Yeah. I think I'm good with my with my purchase. I was thinking about maybe buying another Dana. But I think. I'm good, Melissa. What are your what are your choices here? Wait. What what did you buy Taryn? I bought any jelly Joey into DNA and Brent bus showing Gina ten leftover. I I'm going to have I believe thirteen leftover. The max limit is is forty so. The you can you can save a little bit. You have to make at least one purchase though. The maximum money. You can have going into the next week is twenty dollars. So would that you bringing with right, right? But you have to make at least one purchase. So you have to buy something. You know, what I? I'm just going to go for it. Because I think I have a feeling that these people are just going to increase in value. So I feel like I wanna buy them now because I made the mistake of not buying Tyler near the beginning. Not that he won. But I feel like I made the mistake of of not buying him in the beginning. And then it got. Yeah. Where I didn't have any Tyler's in the only way I was going to get more Tyler than either of you as to purchase ten dollar Tyler's. I was like what the heck when you guys all bought him in the beginning. I like wild off because I thought maybe it was gonna fall apart firm, and it didn't. So I'm gonna buy Kato, and I'm gonna buy Tom, and I'm gonna buy Natalie and that that is twenty. So I'm going to zero dollars going. All right one for it. Was asking somebody to buy Kato a Marietta was saying that she's like bike. He say he saved for tomorrow. Once we name show h in about twenty four hours is not safe anymore. So and we had these these these buys have to be good for another seven days. So I don't know about the Cato by but my head and just I see these people as increasing in value. Whereas some of these others like it could go either way. So you know, what I'm just I'm trying out of new strategy. This time I feel like there's not really any large stakes here because it's like celebrity so right. Trying to knock the off folks trying to devise strategy as they can be me at the sock watch. I'm trying I did consider buying a Kato if he had been five dollars instead of six I probably would have made a purchase, but six was just a little too rich for my blood. There we go. So in the past. There has been a red it play along thread and the patrons of rob has a podcast also played along during big brother twenty. We will probably have another person playing along with us. Rob Sestri himself was very interested in playing the stock watch. So we can update you on what rob is up to as we go along these these few stock watch segments, and I was thinking with other people playing if threat it decides to play along if if the patron group says to play along whoever wins up winning. We'll give them a shout out on the final on the final round table. Yeah. They should get some of the glory to exactly. So that'll be fun. And and that's what we've got four the stock watch. So there were a few other bonus questions that we asked you in the form. So we're going to move onto those before we wrap this up pretty good timing here for just over two hours. So far for the first episode. We got our I first round table. We got so much talk about. Let's talk about these bonus questions. So the first one was how would you rate this week in big, brother? I changed. This question slightly from what I did on big brother twenty big twenty. I asked how do you rate the season as a whole up like as the weeks progress to see if it changed it never really changed any significant amount? And that's partly because the season was fairly consistent and entertainment value. But I I just felt like it would be more fun. If we just rate the week each week, so that we can get a little more variance. Hopefully, and then and then we can rate in as a whole at the end. So I asked would you rate this week in big, brother? I I wanna ask you guys. Brent what are your thoughts? How would you rate the week in big brother out of ten? The players. I would rate them in eight I think they've really been bringing it the people that have been playing playing hard, and the fact that you've cast what are arguably really older cast compared to what you normally get on a regular big brother season means that they really came in there ready to play having said that there's been a lot of production against that. I'm really not here for but I'm not I'm trying to not hold that against them. But I'm judging the bigger weekend as a whole half to take it into account a little bit. I've had last covering celebrity big brother this season. So far, it's been just so many fun personalities even the people that like, Joey who are really annoying me. At least he's in knowing me a lot like I got not having a non reaction to him. I'm really hating on him. So I rather have that happen in give me something to think about so that I can rant about it rather than somebody like DNA who say about her again, you know. So I feel like it's it's been really fun. And I would give it an eight. Yeah. Melissa. What do you think I'm not so high on the week so far, but but basically the reasons Brian gave 'cause you know, there's been a lot of production shenanigans. Additionally, like, I just feel like there's a lot of unanswered questions, and they're not really giving us any answers. And they're not allowing the house to get sick of us any answers. So I'm not really enjoying that. Also, not enough game talk for my my liking. So I have to give it for. I mean, I'm enjoying the season it self and I'm excited to see where it goes. And I'm seeing little nuggets of exciting things that could blossom into really fun gameplay but not yet. So I'm going to give it a five. I actually with you Melissa gave it a five as well. Thinking back to last season of celebrity brother the first week. I was pretty pumped pretty excited. I would have given like a seven or eight probably. Emme but this season is I do like the cast. I'm interested in how this is playing out. But they've just been so many weird things with production. And this whole mooch situation is just so I know. Yeah. It's a bummer, and it's weird and not super into it. So hopefully, that means that that they have a lot of room to grow any week that they're not gonna interfere. We do have a good cast. We do have a good show that we we can hopefully look forward to. But for now for me. It's it's a five the audience gave it a seven which I feel like I feel like that's also pretty fair. I think I think seven is what I would give it if there were no mooch if we're no Jonathan on the block, I'd be at least seven if not an eight so probably probably a little high. I can't tell the check heaps going wide on what the F. I can't tell they're talking about me talking about something else. But Nevertheless, I feel like I'm being influenced by what is like absolute TV gold in tame are I mean like she is just everything and the, and I feel like that that is what's at the forefront of my head when I'm recounting the week. So maybe I'm a little high. But that's okay. Well, I think there's a lot of room to grow. Yeah. Oh, totally totally. That's why I'm like kind of low right now because I feel it could get really good, and I'm already expecting it to get really good. But so far it's not really exactly what I want yet. Another thing that I really really liked from last season. What's I felt like there were a lot of really funny houseguests that were entertaining. And I love listening to them talk. I I love to Ross and Marissa and they're like kind of banter with each other. I thought brandy was hilarious James moslo when he had like some moments with people that were back and forth things, and I feel like that all started on on week one. And I was already really enjoying listening to them talk and hang out, and they don't have that yet. Maybe I will. But yet, I don't see that. It's not really drawing me in as much as it did the first season. And also I felt like the first season having Omarosa. And there I was like she was just so intriguing to me like anything. She did. I was like, okay. What is she going to do next? Like, what's her deal? She was always like just so mysterious in my mind. And so it was always fun to watch her. So I like there's nobody who's really drawing in yet. But I'm enjoying it. So far the Mutuel wasn't incredibly poor replacement for. Yeah. No way. Omarosa was like, and it wasn't the politics thing. I mean, like, let's be clear like, I I hope the producers don't think like we always need a political person in there because I didn't. I mean, I know that she was in the headlines because of the politics thing, but I didn't enjoy because the politics I enjoyed her because she's unique personality that's fun to watch and she totally embraces her persona, and and she's there to win. And she's there to play and strategize. And she's extremely intelligent. And it's not just a gimmick cast. She's not there just to draw in viewers and get a headline. She did that. But she also was really great in the game twelve the second bonus question. I asked was this time with with survey monkey I can easily have you rank people instead of just asking who your favorite player was. I wanted you to rank all of the players based on how much you like them who's your most favorite to your least favorite and understand the first one might be a little hard because especially the people in the middle. It's like, whatever. So the order after the first few in the last few probably doesn't matter a whole lot. If you just want to play them wherever you want. But I think it leads to some interesting results at the very top. Do you have any guesses? The favorite player out of everybody in the house right now. I have to think that it's well it's going to take on. No, probably Tom because I feel like that the people that that like team our love her. But the people that really hate are eight or and they give her like a one grabs down. Whereas I don't feel like anybody really dislikes Tom very much. So I feel like it has to be Tom Tom is in fact at the top of the leaderboard there. Yes. Pretty significantly. About fifty percent of people said that he was their favourite. So that's pretty big significant portion of the pie. That's Tyler numbers. Right there Tyler number. He won. Hey, sorry. And then after a little bit of a drop in second place is Natalie. Eva Marie followed by Ricky. Those are the top three Tom Natalie and Ricky Samar day more. Taymor is actually pretty far down the San you. Find yours. She's in seven seven good. It's never good. When he. Count the columns in the rose I want to four. Yeah. Not good. L E lab. Get like an average score. At Tom is a nine point three Natalie was second with seven point seven and then tomorrow was down with a five point seven. So not not great. In last place, just barely. But in last place was Joey. Very very very close. It's two point nine six versus a two point nine nine DNA was the second to last and candy was third to last. I was the bottom three. But candy. We had a pretty significant jump past them. She was at a five point one nine. So. So there by the way, I have a third bonus question. The Chad asks are Terence shirts getting progressively tighter happening with that. And there was someone else who's asked if you're channeling Simon Cao Cao. Yes. For ios, the tight shirts on American idol. Are you what's going on here? And are you are you are you working out? These days is that what's going on. I mean, I have been but it's mostly that. I pulled the camera back little. I'm usually lie. I was actually shading earlier in the chat. I was like did you notice that he pulled the camera back? So you guys can see his chest. Well, actually, I was I was looking at Rob's camera the other night when I was on was like, you know, his loose looks better. It looks better. No, right. My head as big as everybody else's has. I want to be like the. Yeah. Offers. Invaded personal space there to the camera portion of the podcast. We're just get loopy and. I asked also who do you want to be victim this week answer should not be super surprising, given the popularity here. But Joey was number one with a bullet with over fifty percent snake happen like like, even joy would be willing to fall on his sword. I think he was like apparently the feeds are open right now. The chat told me the Jonathan tried to talk to the girls, and it just did not work at all. So I feel like this is a fate accompli right now. And he's going to go home. But I really wish it was Joey because Joey doesn't wanna be there. Jonathan wants to play. And I'd rather have Jonathan candy so fricking great. Like, nobody's even talking about victim. Joey right now for maybe Tom which I wish I wish you could make I wish you could make the heaven. But as tearing correctly points out, if he did that then all of a sudden, it becomes Tom move Tom's moves. So it's not it's not even a good play for him which bites. Jonathan was second most with about twenty five percent of the responses and candy came in just under that with twenty two percent of the responses. So pretty significantly Joey we want Joey and gone, but he's the least likely person. Finally, I asked because I've seen some talk about this one's Jonathan screwed by twist and a lot of people were like, well, yes, he was screwed by twist, and he also screwed himself. I mostly asked this question because I saw a lot of people saying, no he was not screw by twist. He only screwed himself. But the audience said seventy five percent of the response. Yes. He was in fact, screwed by twist. I think most people would also say he then proceeded to mess it up himself. I think. Sorry. I was just gonna say really quick when I found out that he was now going to be on the block. I didn't think. Oh my God. He's going home. He's done. I figured he could get himself out of this nation. I didn't think that he was going to be going home. And then it was his own doing that made it so that he was going home. And I think it's something I wanted to to queue up here. I don't think it's mutually excuse exclusive. I think that you can give screwed by twists and play poorly in players out of the house. The twist put him in that spot that he probably wouldn't have been in otherwise. And then when he had to rise to that occasion, he failed and I think that's what usually happens with stuff like this where? Basically nobody else had to deal with all of the adversity that he faced. So we don't know how they would have handled it, but he handled it badly. And so that's what we saw and. Agree with that. But on the other hand he's had two chances to win a veto like he couldn't win one of those vetoes. I feel like in Ryan couldn't win one of those four him because Ryan the play and all the veto stew. And he couldn't win it and these plane badly. I I here's the thing. I feel like it's more Jonathan's fault that he's probably going home tomorrow than it is the twist, and you can say well, the twist is the cause of that. And that's certainly true. But I feel like that that that by itself would not have doomed him he would have just been sitting on the block the fact that he hasn't done anything to extricate himself from what is now a bad situation is the primary causes that an his social game sucks again. I don't know what he's doing like turn in your gay card. Why why aren't you hanging out with the fun girls over here? Why why why are you hanging out with this book? Sorry. Jimmy swear, why why are you with this hetero? Boy, get get it get away from him done. And what I might do in the future if this happens again, hopefully it won't, but I should have put a slider because I'm pretty sure I can do sliders with like how how much how much of this was the cause of his demise twist on one side his own play on one side because I think it's all a matter of. Players thinking about when we did at the end of the year podcast. We talked about Eric from big brother Canada six who got screwed when that happens like she was easily the most by twist. However, there were things that she could have done to prevent that. And she did kind of put herself in a position where that might have happened. But we all agreed that she was really screwed by Swiss though. And so I do think that this is probably probably like thirty three sixty six thirty seventy kinda thing where it's mostly his own play. That's put him here. But it was the twist that initiated it and set this path in motion. So I think that might be interesting to to look at in the future people are talking about how excited I got with all the data talk. By the way. Lauren chat tells me that Ricky told the girls the DR said only one victim tomorrow since you're not allowed to lie about what the says, I have to believe that that's true. So only one victim tomorrow. And I I don't know what they were talking about on the on the feed saying a twist in the game in the second house guest packing. I guess we're talking about the packing Dabo's. But that doesn't sound like that's not that's not like somebody going sounds somebody getting kicked out. That's just somebody leaving the game, which is a whole 'nother matter that was bad advertising. I do have a theory that have been kicking around my head. But like, I get makes a lot of sense, especially because this twist seems very specific. And nobody else had this thing. But like they've done a thing in big brother, Canada and somewhat similar things before and big brother where they like they bring someone into the diary room. And they give them an offer. Like, oh, if you leave the game, then you'll get something like this. I don't think that's the case here, especially because nobody else was given that offer clearly, and again, the seems mooch specific, especially if they had a huge themed competition, but it was just something that was in my head like maybe it was something like that. Where I don't know. Maybe they flash back to like he was presented with an offer at the start of the game. Do you want to whatever I don't know. But. It's just hard to find a reason why he would leave that's fischel and supposed to have hope they really explain it tomorrow. Although event although to be fair, I'm kind of losing interest. Anyway, unless they just wanted to play off his whole like, oh, you your stay in the big brother house is shorter than your stint in the White House or whatever like, you know, something like that. Book can fire from. I mean, I just found the the one thing I'd be okay. With is that he was not in the whole time. This whole thing was an elaborate prank on the mooch. And the zimba- just comes in and fires him, and then he has to leave. Yeah. Thing. I can think of is like they're like, oh, we showed you thought you'd be in the house for a long time. But you can't we mooch the mood or something, you know, for the record high wooden actually okay with that. But it would be kind of funny. I would not be okay with it. But it would be kind of funny. Knowing thing I can think of it going to happen. I mean, I was trying to think like, okay, how many days was he working with the White House? How many days was he in the house? Like are they coincided? It didn't. I don't think. But if it coincided, then it'd be like, oh my God. Like on the day that he was kicked out of the White House. He was kicked out of the big brother house. But like, I don't know. I don't think there's any logical reason for any of this. All right. Well, we'll hopefully find out tomorrow night. When the episode airs is there anything else that you guys wanted to talk about four wrap this up Noche wanna tell everybody in the chat anybody who maybe to pick up what we were saying at the beginning of the show when we go over two hours when we're on YouTube, it always like what if you're trying to go back in time it always cuts it off. So you're only going to be able to see the last two hours as currently stand as the video continues to process once we are done, you will be able to see everything, but there's usually like a half hour to an hour span where the. Does not complete. And then we get people tweeting niece enemy PM's every season. Yes. With the video. We can't weakness. Done it five times. Yeah. Exactly. And I don't want to take down. My Josh wins. Big brother. Tweet depends something so this I'm visiting my announcement everybody bed just give it a second. And it'll be okay. All right. Thank you everyone for joining us on this first round table of the season. Hopefully, we have many more successful roundtables to come. If you are interested. You can check out the most recent Taryn show. I did with Matla gory. We also talk to laurel. It was about the reality TV fan base in general and just like just talking about how we can maybe a little bit nicer in in the world in fandom and stuff like that. So check it out if you're interested it's gotten some pretty good feedback so far. So hopefully, you enjoy it. Of course, you also should be checking out the big brother three block, you mentoring that Robin. I released a few weeks ago rave reviews. It's even better than the first one which was about the second season is the whole tagline from the critic. Check that out if you are so inclined. I will of course, be live tomorrow morning at eleven AM eastern to update you on everything that happened today on the big brother celebrity to live feeds and then tomorrow night. We'll be recapping the episode and talking about what happened with the mooch. 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