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Rickey Won't Quit
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There's the big leads major league baseball than those AAA that's one step down. And there's AA able rookie ball winter league. And you keep going down all the way towards the bottom. There are the independence technically professional in that players get paid something to play baseball. But those leagues exist several planets away from the show is they call the majors and most of the players in those leagues will never come close to putting on a big league uniform they'll play in tiny parks in front of near empty bleachers until reality finally sets in and the hang it up for one summer, though. There was someone very different among them one of without question. The greatest baseball players and personalities of all time. And that's what this week's episode produced by pineapple street. Media is all. About the undefeated Clinton gates tells the story a quick word of warning this episode contains mature language. Okay. Here we go with Ricky won't quit. Looking back. I don't know if I would trade that for the world, I wouldn't rather have been anywhere else on this whole year happened in the spring of twenty five a construction worker named Nick Garo went to an open try out for baseball team the scene DA goes surf dogs. That's DA w g s in the brand new professional league known as the Golden League told myself, I was done with baseball. I told myself that this wasn't the live. I want anymore and couple years later. I get I get that phone call from Brian Qendra my coach at the time. And he's like, hey, man. There's a trial coming up. You got to go play. You gotta go play. I know you can still play Matt. So he showed up at spring training. And on the first day. Another catcher comes up to me. And she's I gotta catch glove on Tuesday. Hey, man, you got you want. You got someone to play catch with house? Like now, we're heading to the line. And then right around that time, she cameras you see this entre. Nick just stood there stunned. I just look bigly yet his glasses. You look old school though. I'll say that he had the same here. He had the same style. There's a presence does a charisma. There's a there's something you can't help. But look walking straight toward Nick was Ricky Henderson. Ricky Henderson is just a great ball player. I just think I'm gonna big part of the club and everybody. Depend on me. All the way to plan is Ricky way a plan RIC, Kansas and just a great story. Good a bad. The greatest leadoff man of all time. Ten time all star two time World Series champion American League MVP and one of the best power hitters game. Fly all the left field. He's carrying. He was also, of course, the greatest based dealer of all time. Running. Mic and his brother used to take turns pretending to be Ricky in their backyard. And now here he was standing in front of him wearing a surf dog uniform. He comes walking up down the foul line. And he's like you got anybody to play catch with. I was like no, I don't. No. I don't know that. Hey, man. Sorry. Brigadiers and wants to play catch with me. I'm play catch with them. Like feel the baseball. You know? When Ricky stepped onto the field to play catch with Nick garra dude was forty six years old he'd been playing professional baseball for twenty nine years while almost every one of his teammates from the eighties. Had retired Ricky kept playing just before the trading deadline last night at midnight eastern, the Toronto Blue Jays acquired Ricky Henderson and playing all through the nineties and into the two thousands expected. Ricky Henderson has been traded north to the gills in exchange for three minor leaguers raking Henderson's into free agency is over he in the Padres have agreed to a one year incentive Laden contract. Even if you're getting his three thousand at age, forty two. Arguably the last milestone could possibly achieve in his store record breaking career. He still wanted to keep playing Ricky. I hope we get to she next year. Because I tell you what it's been fun watching you play. Congratulations. Thank you again. I'll be back Ricky came back. All right in twenty. Oh to Ricky became the oldest player in the American League. At forty three years old nearly two hundred fats for the Red Sox Henderson's on base percentage was three sixty nine higher than Johnny gamons higher than David exe Stein's higher than funds of Soriano's. Then when the twenty three season rolled around. No one signed him. So he signed with the Newark bears of the Atlantic league in independent league completely outside of the major league baseball system. It's about as far away as you can get from the bigs and still consider yourself. A pro ball player. You're the only player in major league history. Who's the all time leader three major statistical categories. You're the greatest leadoff hitter. Vall time going into the whole of I Bali a lot of people say. Ricki Henderson's still doing this in your answer is still love to game. If I don't think people would really be asked me was I'm still born. If I was in a major league in CBS thrill dinners at my age. And Nick addition that I ended up could go out then pleading one theory was then Ricky was doing it for the money his agent legendary Jeff Borris put that idea to rest. I mean, obviously, there are some guys along the way made, you know, hundred million dollars, and they have nothing to show for it. At the end of the day. Ricky was never one of those guys that I was worried about rookie certainly wasn't doing it to get rich the Newark bears paid him three thousand dollars a month. But according to Sports Illustrated Ricky's rent was four grand a month. Ricky Henderson Ricky is embarrassing himself with a newer bears in on affiliated league, Rick. You're the greatest leadoff man in the history of the game. You shouldn't be falling with bureau, salesman and truck drivers. Now, go home and wait for the hall vein to call. After two seasons in Newark. A frustrated Ricky decided not to continue with the bears, but he didn't go home and wait for the hall of fame. Call instead forty five year old Ricky Henderson got on the phone with his agent, Jeff Borris and said, what can you do to keep me in the game as an agent, I have never been bashful to tell a guy. It's time to take off your jersey if a guy can no longer compete at a major league level, I will be the first guy to tell him. I think the time has come for you now to get on with the rest of your life. But with Ricky even though when he got into his forties. I never felt that way about him. Look like his body was chiseled out of granite. Baseball. At least the way Ricky Henderson pleaded for as long as he pleaded is hard on the body. And the guy was a shoe in for the hall of fame. Everyone wondered what he was doing why he kept going, but his teammates learned retirement was a word that did not go over well with Ricky Dave Stewart was a teammate on the Oakland A's in the nineties at the time that I decided I was going to retire nineteen ninety-five. He was is mad at me about retiring as anybody could have imagined. And I got it. I mean, he's a close friend one of my best friends, and he was very very disappointed in me and didn't speak to me for a few days. And his thought was that you know, you love the game. And he asked me on. I said, yeah. Love baseball very much, and I enjoy playing it. But I don't enjoy playing it like on planet. He told me that that that wasn't a part of the plan. And he thought that I was premature in making a decision that I was making to retire. And I told him he's not in my shoes. Paul Abbott was a pitcher who played with Ricky when they were both with the Seattle Mariners. Then remember him watching the hall of fame ceremony on TV sitting there with them lower in the cafeteria or the kitchen eating lunch and him. Speaking up saying, you know, I don't want to be there. Like, what should I don't want to be there? What are you talking about goes? Because on there. I'm not here that means he was done playing. He didn't want to be done playing. He wanted to play forever. In the spring of twenty five Ricky got a call. Knocked the when he was open for from what Bakley GM, but from this. My name's Dave Cavill. I started the golden baseball league as class project goes back. That's never business school. Dave's league wouldn't be -ffiliated with major league baseball or minor league baseball for that. But it was still baseball. We felt that there were a lot of communities in the western United States that lacked baseball teams because a lot of these cities grown like places like Chico, California, you mayor Zona could be supported with new minor league teams. Everyone thought we were crazy which we probably were the Golden League would consist of eight teams including the Chico outlaws surprise fighting falcons. Yuma scorpions and the San Diego served, but Dave started league would need some sort of attraction to get it off the ground. That's where Ricky came in. And so we would just talk about like what it would mean to play in the league be a part of something exciting, and, you know, promote baseball in a lot of new communities and get young people excited about playing again. Somehow it worked the Golden League didn't. Have a lot to offer. Dave promise. Vicki he would be treated like a star. I think he liked the fact that it was a brand new league that was almost Ricky's league. And that he was almost larger than life in the whole experience and that kind of fit his ethos and who he was. Dave cavalier knew exactly who he was negotiating with and how to get his attention. Ricky had always had a reputation as a player with a huge ego. And generally just kind of a weird guy. He would talk to himself on the field would speak about himself in the third person Bomani Jones is a host for ESPN gentlemen at the Padres once that Dr Regan contract because Ricky with negotiators only deal voicemail. This is this is Ricky calling on behalf of Ricky even what he is big is aged the aging is to be in the third person Ricky used to work out in front of a mirror while repeating his own name. He once asked for a winnebago as a bonus in contract negotiation. Is this true story in the early nineteen eighties? The Oakland A's accounting department was freaking out because their books were off by a million dollars. They realized the GM had given you one million dollar bonus check and instead of cashing at you framed it and hung it on the wall in your house. That's true. That's true. I fell asleep on an ice pack got frostbite and miss three games in the middle of August. Yes. As toronto. Yeah. Missed three games with frostbite in August. Yes. Ricky was perfectly comfortable with Ricky as we were trying to figure Ricky out then there was the moment in nineteen ninety one. When he broke Lou Brock's, basically. Steal surveys jerks. The bay from its moorings and holds it aloft representing number nine hundred thirty. He took third which is the toughest base to steal by the buck stands up fixing base up. He holds. A great base still. But today. The greatest of all time. Thank you. Day. I am the greatest all Todd. And I don't think anybody would expect anything less. Weekend. He's always see Mahama the greatest Fred Atkins has been Ricky's best friends since Charleston. That's what we can it. It wasn't like I'm Nissen new bunkers. No, he'd never meant it. But people took it out of context looked at it and wrote it like he said, I'm better than new bunk. No, he never said Mahama lease it he gets sheared for people to your class for him. When he said because Ricky here's day. He was wrong for saying. I didn't look at nothing wrong with saying you for other people it was proof of Ricky's arrogance. The value of humility is preaching reinforced all over the place. And that's that's what it comes down to. And he did not subscribe to that. And then never goes over will. There's a lot of reason to believe that the perception of Ricky's behavior personality plead just as much of a role as age in the fact that he couldn't get a deal with a major league team when Ricky joined the Golden League and signed with the surf dogs in twenty five at age forty six. It was unsurprisingly a huge story. Ricky Henderson at forty six signed a contract to play for the San Diego surf dogs. Can he still play to move through all sorts of national media to San Diego who came to chronicle the curiosity of Ricky's latest attempt at a comeback. But for one local reporter, Tammy bell main a great story had just landed in her backyard. I mean, how many opportunities are you going to have to cover the year that a hall of Famer in this tiny stadium in this independent league? And I've had to tell friends it's like getting to watch Bruce Springsteen Plana garage band on Thursdays. Tamie decided to spend the summer following the surf dogs writing about them for local blog. She sat down with Vicky weakness. And recorded a lot of those conversations. Compromise with your custom cheated come. They're basically, the sound isn't always great. But there is Ricky Henderson the unlikely star traction the San Diego surf dogs. Hidden. Stacey. Club. That I still Tamie like everyone else wanted to know. Why was there? Ricky's answer was always very clear those I think giving ballplayer kid dream is planning a major league. And it's still my dream. Sure. I love the game. He said, but I wanna get back to the majors. You know, it's the first game is so full. You know to me is is good competition. Especially in that bracket league is whole thin right now. So I think it's going to be greatly on may twenty six thousand five to surf dogs played their first game in San Diego against the Long Beach armada, like a breaking news moment, Ricky was back and it put this small fledgling independently golden baseball league on the map. Pat, say Jack was one of the investors in the league that would of course, be real fortunes pets Ajax. And so we landed him in a helicopter on the field. He got out and threw out the first pitch. So that was like this incredible moment the helicopter lifted off and it was time to play ball. Here's the dichotomy here's Ricky and then everybody else on the team. Game sold out three thousand people all waiting to see if the base stealing kings still had. I bet. Rickie grounds out. Second time of Ricky walks. Then smacked a double just an incredible swing in comes around to score. But that's not what people are there to see. I know that all of us are hoping that he that he steals. The heck. Finally in his fourth that bat, Ricky hits a single and he's on first base. Commodity with we came. We came here to see you take it watching the finger, sir twitching, and he would hang his hand down any twitches for fingers, the fingers, stop twitching, and it gets. Now there goes rookie the to pitch to throw down to second base of Harrison's safely. Stolen base of the golden baseball league goes to Ricky Anderson who else Ricky goes to for three scores of run and gets us deal. That's the slide right there that you always see on. Surf dogs in their next game too. And then later that we. History. I only homeland so fun season for the Serb with your mind. The first franchise sister did left left field wall. Leila's a good fill that you got the first one the way I thought maybe few young guys eventually get the first one I got it. So I can brag right now. He's still ran like a gazelle. You watch him. We we've had little rundown exercises that we would do forty six years old out run all of us. The guy was in better shape than almost all of us on the team. And we were early twenties. Sift peach was one of her teammates serve. One hundred percent shredded from head to toe, muscular Anderson, we'll go off and running Throwdown the second base. It's not gonna be in time is six stolen base. The season comes here in the first. On the field rookie was killing it as a surf dog. He and his teammates felt like winners. But off the field things weren't so pretty here's Jeff Boers. Knock a lights. It's pretty bad. I mean, the conditions are horrid the hotels or fleabag hotels. The club houses are dilapidated. I've been to some little league fields that are better than some independent ball places. All we go out, and we'd be catered to mazing Levin. Now, we gotta go out to the growth and stole grab some. Some Bologne in in ham and some peanut butter jealous. But other than that, you know, keep the guys from being hungry and giving thune says and go out that play, you know, we get peanut butter and jelly or some cereal or something, you know, whatever was at the ninety nine cents store that time probably Brighi comes on his this is what you guys are eating. Are they? We eating this one day we had pasta the next day. We have fried chicken and potatoes and salad and all that stuff. I mean, our spreads on the Senate becoming became good. After that if Ricky was disappointed by the conditions around him. He sure didn't show it to his teammates. He kept everybody loose. You know, he was just another one of the guys. Feel like. They did. Join for guys like Nick era, Ricky wind from childhood hero to not only teammate. But father figure and friend has taken some left-handed swings and Ricky's got a nice wing. Thanks. Right. My right side back to and it's not really going like I wanted to work on it. He's gonna pick up tomorrow before before practice. What is it will come in here and do some early working shoot? Okay. All right. Thank. Yeah. Same. Came down. He hit wasn't as like swing still. They're still there Kvant. Do you surf dogs manager Terry Kennedy saw him mentoring? Some of the guys started thinking I've gotten Ricky Henderson here. Maybe he'd be willing to help me out as well. I ask him. Will you take the position players out there to first base and talk about breaks and leads and he says sure I thought he was going to turn me down. But he didn't he took him out there. And then the other team was the saw him doing his thing. And they started getting closer. And I said, well, you know, this is a independently I said come on over just let them let them listen to Ricky took base to base. He has a little bit different of a I if he pushes off the inside foot opens up his his right foot on average, you get five more feet than the average person. He went through the whole thing. It was very good to be honest with you. I tried to mimic what Ricky did definitely wasn't helpful for me. And I didn't have a lot of success doing it that way I was rounder than later on in my career. So I was stealing bags. By the fourth of July surf dogs were in first place. The team was into prize Zona and they pulled down tight game against the fighting falcons. Stands were packed this business school kid idea on some level had worked. If I were after after the game being in the middle of desert. It's just what baseball is supposed to be like it's summertime in America being Ricky Hanish than being there. Just you know on a big league field, man. This is this is never forget. Nick remembers looking across the field and seeing Ricky just staring into the sky at the fireworks. And he thought this has been fun, but Ricky won't be here much longer. I honestly believed he was going to get back to the beliefs at some point you wanted it to happen just because he was so passionate. And he so clearly loved the game. You wanted him back in it. You knew that baseball would be better with him in it no-one, Ricky, I think at Forty-six could help a big league team. Ricky Henderson can actually make it back. You know, why why? I got I got Legg's Ricki, Henderson's knees. Still work. In order to get called back up to the majors. Ricky was going to need to put up big numbers particularly plead to impress clubs. But the problem was that in this league. He couldn't get a pitch to hit eight weeks into it. He already had like sixty three blocks. He told me goes it's not even like they can't even cheat the pitch like it would be like free feet over his head to feet blows me. They were young kids intimidated by throwing childhood hero. Ricky was doing everything he could to stay at the plate. There was one game that I'm par had actually lost track of the count. Go three essay, I know him. Airbud in the states involved this. Okay. It's walter. Do you? No, no, no. It's three it's three because he just wanted to get hit. See what it is. So like up because he he just wanted to hit for weeks. Now, Ricky had been calling his agent daily every time it was the same thing that anyone call from the bigs is anybody thinking about calling me up. I was calling everybody and teams were like, yeah. I love Ricky. I still think he could play, but he's just not a fit over here. We're going with the youth movement. I got some twenty three year old twenty four year old kid who's gonna be playing field leading off for me. So I was getting every exclusive of the owners. I would just turn eighty till two old would night seeing what he is. Great, right. Got really fired up about why wasn't there in could rattle off all of the players that he thought were in lesser shape. But yet still hanging on. He was always looking at the box scores to see who was hitting. And who was fitting that's writer, David Grann. He followed Ricky for a while that season in wrote a story about him for the New Yorker, he would often say like this guy that got this guy over me like he was studying the bucks, the you like in New York real estate. You know, you people looked to see the bitches someone died, and they might get apartment. Ricky was frustrated in growing, desperate. And he just couldn't understand why major league baseball couldn't just give him one more chance. Hey, baby. I have been made. Much it bid right because I can't see that a player. Class the way I played. I could see about. By mid-july, Ricky's numbers started to slide. And now the two offering on the way calls strike with a curveball Anderson's the bend disgust. In a month. Rookie batting average dropped more than fifty points strength three. I mean, everybody has that point of the season when the backfield's heavy or your hands slow down a little bit. July thirty first was obese tree debt Ricky's last gasp, lots of surf daughter over for the call. Lots didn't get that first week of August was kind of the sobering. Realization that you weren't gonna get picked up, and you were going to be there. He got into a situation that he thought it was just going to be a few weeks turn into years and could get out. What do you can get? The report. Please tell me what I want to ask the owners if I had a chance to have a mean with tell me what did I do? I play the game. Will I done to what rep is too was a trap of his own making? But it was also the trap that when he was invincible he'd always gotten out of he'd always got out of the trap. Right. He could always get off first base. He could always outrun you and when he failed he would get right up and do it again. And so I think he got into the golden baseball league thinking, I'll get out of this. I'll steal this. I mean, I'm I mean, I'm Ricky Henderson, but Ricky couldn't steal his way out of this one. And he became a different guy out there on the field studying the pitcher for his tell and doing all the things he would do getting ready to steal the crowd. The other team. His teammates were on edge waiting for to go. And each time he didn't go. And then as he walked off engine steel. He was cursing about the sun in his eyes mother fucking God damn, you know, he was furious. And he was furious because he knew he could have gone, and I could tell he didn't run because he doubted himself. I remember he said something to one point that really stay with me he said, and he said, you know, Ricky still trying to figure out all the pieces to the puzzle. He just realized that you know, he had gave the best you give and you'll come to a point where you go. I just didn't tune that's Ricky's best friend for that not for any bad reason. But is for the fact that they so they wanna go a different way. I think it's just it was a sad ending to the story. I would have liked to have seen him go out on his own terms rather than the game turning its back on him. But the story hadn't ended Ricky Henderson still had one last chance to put on a uniform and go out and play the game the surf dogs at squeak their way into the Golden League playoffs. They did the playoffs in a weekend series. It was like a double elimination tournament. And I remember Ricky was not thrilled with the format because oh that's like my brother's adult softball league. The twenty five Golden League playoffs took place over Labor Day weekend in Long Beach. Maybe steady knew it was finally the end. Maybe he felt he owed it to these guys who were as teammates, whatever the reason Ricky turned it on one more time he causes causing meeting brings us all together and his eye guys. Got something to tell you, you know, just want to have a little talk. You has been carrying me all year. Now, it's time for you. Guys, jump on my back. Sure enough comes out. I bet and Blair field is a monster field. That's right on the water. The Air's thick the well. While doesn't go anywhere. I that bad enough. Homer rookie life during the playoffs. Getting on bass hitting home runs. He looked like Ricky of old Henderson digging for second base. It'll be a stand up double for Henderson. Putting matters that second and third for the surf dogs here in the third. Baseball is like it's almost like a living thing it like pays legends back. I mean Cal Ripken in his final all star game. When he hit that Homer. Derek jeeter hitting a home run for his three thousand hit special to see moments like that. And to be a part of that. And it wasn't on the stage where everybody can watch on TV. It wasn't on the stage where everybody could read about it in the paper, turn on ESPN and see it yet to be there to feel that and see that and being be there with them. And it was the way it was supposed to be the way legend should be. That's the way he should go out. Just like that. Six in the same thing said go captures the first ever golden baseball league championship here at player failed nine to six surf Dazs get the victory and in two thousand and five San Diego surf dogs are champions. I wanted him to go and have an amazing second half of season somewhere, and and be able to go and give you know, some beautiful lovely speech at the end of the game. And and go out on this big glorious stage. I mean, that's the that's the Disney ending, and then it didn't happen. But it still had a happy ending because it was still at the end. It was a man in love with the game that he'd always loved. And there was something really beautiful about that. It's not clear when Ricky officially retired. But he never played another game the ending that a lot of people have been trying to write for Ricky for a long time. It was here. Looking back on it. Now though that season it's the opposite of a punchline Ricky was asked over and over. Why is he doing this? And his answer was always the same. Ricky Henderson still doing this. And your answer is still love to gay. I loved the game. It's hard to argue with that he played more major league baseball games and all three players in history. His stolen base record one thousand four hundred eight bags will never be touched after his year. But the surf dogs Ricky did make it back to the majors. Anderson is back in a big league roster named the Mets staff. Thursday replaces hitting coach Rick down who was fired. And then he returned to the Oakland A's where it all started for him today. He's the special assistant to the president who is Dave Cavill, the guy who started the Golden League when I took over as team president. It was kind of like really it come full circle. Like I called him. I'd say look I love to work together and someone who's from Oakland the greatest player in the history of the franchise. One of the greatest players of all time. Some knows the game loves the game. Someone who I developed a friendship with that. We could be together kind of advocating and advancing. This amazing mission is kind of an incredible thing to be about. How about is having a great time. On July twenty six twenty nine Ricky showed up in Cooperstown. New York to be inducted into the national baseball hall of fame. Dave Stewart Ricky's longtime friend and teammate was there that day people were expecting the worst of his induction speech, and he got up and he spoke Ricky began his speech at the end of his career acknowledging his years in the independently. I love the game of baseball. That's why I was so hard for me to walk away from the game. But now he said he had nothing left to prove Fehmi. He will was Muhammad Ali. He said at one time, quote, I am the grades in the cold. Oh. That is something I always wanted to be. And now that does sociation had voted me into the baseball hall of fame my journey as a player is complete. Rickie finally accepted the honor for so long. He hadn't been ready for and here at the very end. He showed a side of himself people. I'd never seen. I am now in the class of the greatest players of all time. And at this moment, I am very very humble. Thank you. That was the final episode of the season. But stick around for preview of what's next from thirty for thirty. We've got some big things in store here at thirty thirty. We worked to find stories you just have to tell your friends about and when you fly Delta Airlines, you can connect with your friends anytime anywhere. 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So what's on your mind? Yeah. I mean in on December eleventh, we have forty two one which is about the Tokyo fight with Buster Douglas defeating Mike Tyson which shocked the world with some people say it was one of those where were you JFK moments? They remember hearing it in the total shock. Of that, Google great sports upsets of all time. It's on that list. Well, yes, but that's hard. To fact, check for some reason. But we're going to say that in the film. Dion sanders. So we Dion stubble place. So the day that he suited up. He did not actually play that say legend, but he actually suited up MLB an NFL. So there's some pretty great footage of him hopping on helicopter. He was there. He was the man. And then there's obviously a lot of parallels with Bo, and, you know, the the two sport athlete and just like totally fun. Nostalgia story. Dion Sanders is going to give good tape. We're also going to do some podcasts stuff in relation to that. We'll just say more and more every like that the podcast side in the film side are talking to each other. And we're doing these bonus episodes and collaborations with the thing that I'm really excited about is that next year is also the tenth anniversary of the series thirty for thirty. That's right ears. It feels like a hundred years. No. But we have actually done almost ninety thirty for thirty. So hopefully, nobody's paying attention or counting June there some fans out there that are definitely doing. So but between. Spinoffs and thirty for thirty s we've done almost one hundred twenty sports documentaries in ten years. So it's been a little bit busy as you can see. And so, you know, we've been thinking a little bit about how do we Mark the anniversary? We don't want it to be a nostalgia tour mostly because we think 2019 it's going to be an awesome year with a bunch of great stuff. But one thing we are going to do in this the first time anyone's hearing, this is in this podcast feed. We're going to have a series of conversations I will host them around some of the best most iconic most beloved films from the last ten years. Yes. Which is controversial only because everyone you asked who their favorite thirty for thirty has a different answer soda fun. And tricky for us to navigate that. But there's also plenty of whatever happened to stop is Marcus do pre. Now, what is Chris Herren up to? There's so many things that have happened since some of those films aired and actually have changed some of those in the subjects of those stories their lives in many ways fun to go back. And that's going to be the big challenge in selecting the ones that we have conversations about it. It's going to be interesting to try and. Whittle down that list and talk to both filmmakers, but also subjects as well. We'll be doing that throughout all of next year. So that's just a taste of what's to come for next year. And I just want to thank everyone for listening to the podcast this year in watching the films. It's been really great. And we're really excited about what comes next but Libby Geist. Thank you for joining us to come to the side of the my never again ever again. See Betsy it's going to be big us. All right. Thanks, everyone. For listening. Thanks for listening to thirty for thirty podcasts. My name is Jody advocate ESPN, film, senior producer Aaron light in our series edited. Our narrator was the undefeated Clinton gates later this week will post the bonus episode with me and Clinton with lots more about Ricky Henderson and the making of this documentary. And yet as I mentioned this is the final episode of our season. But there's lots more on the way. And in the meantime, you can always go back into the archives and listen to any of our docs that you may have missed this episode was made in collaboration with our friends at pineapple street media. It was produced by AGA rainy Shagay an edited by Joel level. The episode was mixed by Martin Johnson and research was Dianne Hudson. The executive producers at street are generalize Berman and max linski pineapple, by the way makes tons of podcast. You can check out their other work at pineapple dot F a special. Thanks crisper, ruby who was a big part of putting us episode. Tha. Gather. Thanks also to jet Cronin Juliana Polly and Tammy filming Tammy just wrote an e book about her time with Ricky Henderson in San Diego. It's called the dog days of summer. DA? Of course is a link to it on our website super special that thirty fifth thirties. 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Mornings with Keyshawn, LZ & Travis (HR2)
"The monster yeah i'm circling last night's game was terrible. It was terrible when it was still fun. You still football mattered and because it was because it was such a close does game because it offenses. We kept watching every third down conversion every i was at the bar during research of course of course and everyone was tuned in cheering incompletions. It's funny with a low scoring game like that. You find yourself cheering for the oddest things. It was just a perfect example of football's power there because the game was a dog. We were texting talking about about how it's a dog and not one of us was turning it off nobody was i'm turned on my watching this fascinating one of the reasons i was into it is because i wanted to see the dynamic between rogers met leflore. Yeah really wanted to see if in fact it was going to be some little bit of something but in a third. I got a text in at third quarter from my buddy. Dave that you met down rocking hurry. He texts me because he listened to the show and he goes. I was was close. I was three minutes into the second-half right for the iro slam on the ground. When he got sacked rodgers that he is and he was like how close close to what i said and predicted so i wanted to see a little bit of that you know i kinda wanted to see what was going to happen to the little bit won the game so it's hard to really <music> out there but as key porno earlier the lack of celebration for your head coaches i ever defense instead of their house. I'm here. I'm here i'm over here and everyone kept running to defensive coordinator. The fact that the defense aaron rodgers is repeatedly talked about how the defense and was bad last year rung not you can't really tell because you have mitch trubisky and and to me. That's an important caveat to this defense conversation. It's really easy to look good against a quarterback being compared to an early alex smith. It's a lot harder it to be good against a good quarterback. You know what else is important caveat. Though that i kind of forgot who can do it is six fifty nine keys doppler on a friday uh-huh seventy degrees west covina where we will be weaker today high and ninety seven today rush. That's right only research. I did some scott last night. I got a couple more for you uh tomorrow because sometimes we got a preview. The weekend is national salami day long salami tomorrow. I like it dry. He's he's headline presented by sprint. Let salaam. It's not cut us off yeah. It's bigger and it's softer and it's greasier yes. I like like the dry yes salami freak. I don't really eat it anymore. It's pretty good ice. Ice dissolved the go to work on what you did yeah. Oh my guy. I i get the brick oven in china. They've sliced yourself yeah yeah so we'll be thick yeah but i don't. I don't eat it like that anymore. You like your thick <hes> cocco doodoo talk to do to do so. I work yesterday morning. Obviously with you guys and then i had television again last nice so i had to drive back downtown l._a. Didn't get any per diem or anything like that gas money or nothing from radio or television so i took it and and kept him moving so got to downtown l._a. In chris text me in in our text him or something and asked him if he was at the studio but he was hanging hanging out with dan in the secret meeting over at king's fish or king fish rock was raw fish. Yeah rock fish hanging out iraq for just connected. Iraq improves big fans of art. Show of course is that rock music. I yeah that's okay. The scrimp shrimp is really good. Well i'll tell you what do you mean. I see it because i already knew it last night. Yeah you knew it last night. Okay so studio television studios across from it so i went over there with dan in the chris and we watched some of the game together some shore native had their beers or whatever they were wanted buttery and he said forget the may i got a little bit of naked got on t._v. And stuff several hours late. I'm not sitting up there pulling pulling it down. Oh wait three classes. It was to stop and it was light but speaking light ale got chris in in in dan- ordered <hes> roast beef sandwiches or prince tips. That's it's always good choice yeah but you had to see how big they were. Is you had him. That's a big thing there's no way inhale allows have been able to eat all at bread. Can you only get half of it so chris. I was watching him as i said next to him but i don't know if he saw me watching you trying to face adele was watching the t._v. And then i reached for my phone one time to try to pick. I wanted to video pick one going to do injustice. I was on a video high devoured lowered. The sandwich didn't devour because it did take me a while. Don't take you were trying to slow because you knew i was there. He was trying to say a dance. I'm a slow eater accrues interest. You know when you have a lot of food you still leave so i'm not eluding lick the plate like adult the things i was going to go which salad which is usually i didn't because dan ordered the french dip. I thought oh that sounds good my day yesterday so we ordered what seven p._m. I had been in the office office in three a._m. And i barely eight so yeah i was hungry. I understand but if it okay you need some time you because you don't know even know oh you said you eight is slow. That's not eating slow. I was pretty slow note. It's not here's the class thing gone and ten minutes not ten or fifteen minutes yeah well now. It's fifteen chris fifteen chris's french dip sandwich or the tuna gulfstream. The sale was the tuna because he had the debris it. You got a lot of brands so yeah a lot out of chewing the going on but he finished that whole thing and then dan actually is little is he is he actually finished too. I watched him at all the fries he ate every little skinny guy's yeah. I think once you gotta watch you gotta. Watch them high behind videotaping right. It's kind of like the skinny girls. Hey <hes> who <hes> what was. I gonna say oh that was keys headline in the morning. This is what i'm talking about this morning. You're listening to me. Hey s._p. Key i think all right so antonio brown may or may not get suspended. We're still waiting to find out whether or not that's that's gonna go down deactivated whatever it is. Here's his agent drew house talking about the latest. Can you tell us what the latest antonio brown is right now. I'm talking the raiders trying to get the situation worked out. Nothing has been finalized. I'm not aware of any final decisions just trying to get back on track at this point t- nasty antonio the state hong today and obviously we want him to get back to work so we're trying. I'm working on right now. Is there any chance that he could play or will play week one. That's up to the raiders. If it's up to us he would like to play but ultimately that's going to be their decision. He would like to onerous contract and fulfill its commitment of the raiders. That's what we're trying to hammer out with the team right now. Do you feel like this relationship can be repaired going forward i did. I think he can be repaired and that's something that i'm working on that tonio working on so hopefully we're successful with that moving forward so he's on standby just waiting for the next up. We're communicating. Both sides are communicating to see what it would take. Hey for him to be able to move passes and rejoin his teammates so that's antonio brown's agent drew rosenhaus speaking with e._s._p._n.'s rob demob ski before the the <hes> packers in the bears last night key just really quickly. Antonio brown is in uniform playing monday night absolutely not he's so toast. I can hear it in druce answers that a._b._a. Toast i can hear it by the tone or by what he said by the tone and and what he said i could hear it. I could totally the words that he was choosing to us. He wants to whom maids he he he later. We hope to work it out. He's already been told that it ain't gonna work out now. They're just trying to figure out what it is that they need to do to move forward with the without antonio that that that's saying so when okay work it out without antonio antonio is though is is not gonna play monday night no he won't he won't be he's not going to push. The raiders. Purists getting ready to be a week to week thing they. It's getting ready to be a week to week case by case type. Were they decide week to week to suspend him to deactivate them doesn't matter which of those things that is i mean i get the money if you suspend him. There's no money to begin with no money to be had if deactivating all they're saying is he's on our team but we're not gonna using this week. Take and we're going to pay him the payment but if he's not if if he's on the opening day roster as of saturday at four p._m. P._m. eastern time fourteen million dollars of guaranteed money is due to him. That's a decision that the raiders gotta make. Is that why we're waiting. Is that way until one o'clock on saturday afternoon or are we going to be waiting to find out with all the different boxes to find out what it is that they actually actually can do from an n._f._l. Legal standpoint to save money or you know. It's one of those deals where if you do this you still gotta. Pay me the money. If you do that it you don't have to pay him the money but a grievance is gonna come and they're going to lawyer up and you're gonna be in a war for this amount of time and now it's. It's that that sort of stuff. That's going on because remember mike mayock in my opinion kind of mess with a fragile guy in an unnecessary situation that created this sort of firestorm that we're out right now. I don't know if i'm what do you mean a._b._c.'s acting like this that true but you gotta understand. General managers do not go on on the field talking to players doing practice at all. They stayed on the sideline. They wear their little caps. They got a little sunglasses on with the tease polo shirts tucked into their pants with their paper folded having a conversation with trainers having a conversation with scouts that are watching. Maybe a coach or two maybe a player. That's on the sideline but they're not engaging. No matter what the situation question is would a player was he down there explicitly and not not that antonio brown doesn't share a ton of the respond to see it. I'm not i'm with you. I'm with you but didn't go down there explicitly to bait him into exactly what he got in and what will go down there. I'm going to get him to react then. We're gonna suspend him then. We're gonna get our money and then he's gone. Was this a i don't i don't think it was. I don't think it was a blatant plan. I think mike may i think he's a tough guy like he thinks i play football. I played in college. I intercepted dan marino. Nobody nobody cares but that's his personality that sweetie. I don't know if you watched him on n._f._l. Network for even knowing yeah but he thinks he's a tough guy like man. You upset down somewhere. That's in so you knew the the only yesterday when we were talking about this in allegations. What what was it case came up first thing i said was we win this something that a kid you said it it had to be some sort of may are antagonizing a._b. In kind <hes> messing with a fragile guy that doesn't like you any damn way. He doesn't like you because you finding fifty four thousand dollars and all you had to do as a general manager was sent in him that little letter in leave it alone that's it. You don't have to do anything else if he put it on facetime or facebook or whatever he did so. Oh damn what it's not that deep but you went and mess with him. Why did you do that. We'll get to this anthem in just a moment congratulations to f- i in vegas sun valley picks those rams saints tickets for opening day. Thanks to corona extra game on lime in more chances coming up all day long playing this song before the game elsie. I hope solve this is still jam goes up yeah happy happy birthday date gainer seventy years old going. She's still with us. Yeah don't run down right exactly that's exactly why would they birthday brought to you by jaguar landrover newport beach off the seventy-three toward to see visit land rover newport beach dot com land rover above and beyond what she a when when he wondered us all i can remember what about we got to follow up. A big following liz here so i will survive was a number one song of nineteen seventy nine. This was a number nine nine song. Oh that disco fill you do anything with disco back. In this time you get top twenty five drivers. You know this all right sounds like donna. The summer never can say goodbye yeah we of course you'll know what you did. A chorus here comes here. Comes never can say goodbye met you. Oh hey kristy studio. Fifty four king chris has passed the plate man pass the plate in an amazing disco queen this. This feels like studio fifty four time so there's i come looking at some do coming down the stairs. Krista boy got his colleen shirts for sure yeah just like that and got a plea just holding a plate to roller skate with the unicorn horn ahead all the unicorn. It's nice mustache. Yeah no worries in a world where somebody over to them and said hey keyshawn what you come. See this table all right. Here's i don't know how to say this without sounding really bad here. You want me to say it is antonio brown an idiot. Yes because that's it. Here's the deal no don't don't call him an idiot to ask the question. Is he an idiot into you call him and say is he not bright right not smart not aware tonio brown not connect the dots that are a millimeter apart be because here's here's the deal saying the same thing because in what if everyone can see that the person who actually is in charge of the raiders is jon gruden and keyshawn you keep telling us he doesn't have a problem the jon gruden. He has a problem with my maniac but everybody else can see the puppeteer is telling me i work too. Why is everyone able to see these dots be be connected except for antonio brown and i'd say probably drew rose reminding you yes exactly but if every single time i am somebody tells you it's not me him then. You like okay well. That's what it is. I'm dillon. I'm nice to you. I'm cudi you. I'm cool you we could we could. We good and i'm having chris them. Make you look bad on the radio but it ain't me stimulants to keep pushing the buttons but i'm telling them. Even though i'm the one that's running the whole show too old apartment but i'm the guy telling you i like you. We cool. Don't worry about it but creasing. Keep pushing the buttons keep doing that. You're gonna eventually only at some point in time. Figure it out but right now as long as i got you you don't listen to me at some point in time is the part that i don't understand because in tokyo brown can have that. I understand you do understand. I've always told you know a lot of guys that are not aware in a national football league of things that go on around clearly 'cause. They're not really a tension. This is my point. This is being he may not understand and i don't know this for a fact that a._b. A._b. A b may not understand the league which means that he's not watching okay. Everything is unfolding before us is li like he may he may have tony. He may have two years ago. The jon gruden got one hundred million dollars in full control of the organization. He may have not known that he may just. I think all they hired coach. Okay cool. We with the raiders now on t._v. You've just <hes> yes. I think that's a possibility but again too l. z's yes and the the thing that i was struggling to put into words that you did very nicely. Well done then that makes him in idiot. If if he's because look like anybody that does any job if you're you're serious about your job. You need to know the land. You need to know who is the person that's ultimately making this decision. This person may be sitting in an office. This person may have a title but the the decisions actually coming from that guy down there. It's your responsibility to understand that and by the way that the raiders are jon gruden just not. He's just here's here's say who runs the new england patriots bill belichick okay bill belichick. Lets you know that he runs the new england patriots churn crude and let you know no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no. It's not true he went and got a shield see but what he did is shield sheila late. He got a guy calling him the general manager. You've never heard bill say. This is my general manager. I understand i can go get a guy for shield but keep yes. I understand what you're saying really at the sneaky thing but it's not sneaky right out nielsen obvious nope you because he's a b and the rest of the team that i'm just a coach. He makes all the decisions like susan susan right in your wife. Yes down in your household. Yes your wife says go ask your dad. He runs this. He makes the decision even though she makes decisions even though she makes the decision congress she's yeah she's telling the kids that shirt a woman making the decision. Okay perfect example the perfect. My children are fully aware that it's her decision. She may send them to me and they may say hey mom wanted more copped out and tone daddy. No no no no no no no. This is a perfect example. Actually that much like antonio brown in this situation. They've been paying unlike antonio brown. I should say they've been paying attention. They know that i can say yeah. We'll do that but they know that. When all of a sudden it didn't happen. It's not because i changed my mind because no no no no it's because they live in the the house. They have experience. They pay attention. They talk to their brothers and sisters. I honest- honestly man in the swear to you feel this way. I don't think he knows what you know. Then that's dining then it becomes one could be an idiot but more brand carbon dan idiot but but to their serious malpractice happening withdrew coke and its client and maybe it may not happen today. Maybe ramon would nine hundred thirty five years. Even there's something even withdrew drew suppose has even with drew telling him that it doesn't mean anything because grooten is going going to counter back and say look i'm. I'm coaching team troncoso. Bogging footba okay mic was one general manager. He makes those decisions. I don't you know i'm coaching. I'm here to coach he just met john. Drew is his agent. He's supposed to have known no drew. Drew knows so drew but it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter sadder withdrew says because the guy in the building is jon gruden and he has the ear. He's right there with a._b. Drew over there if he's that easy. He's he's got. He's dead easy too much because you remember when i'm telling y'all apprentice apprentice. Remember what i'm telling you. Remember what i'm telling you travis. The letter on the bottom says mayock signed mike mayock general manager oakland. Yeah i get that letter says his name i'm looking at it doesn't say may ox less jon gruden jon gruden. He would have a problem with jon gruden. He has a problem problem with mike and that's the reason i got into the altercation in mayock approach if may i didn't approach him ages since the letter. We wouldn't even be having this conversation. Uh we will be talking about fifty four thousand dollars loss and that's all we that's why a b. is what l z suggested. He is because he just he cam. They do it so you know. I was a garfield guy but raj garfield ruins garfield the caddo garfield and i know key he was the fowler who was on you know i didn't. We know it's going to get into garfield on going somewhere president to anyway. He was more of like aroma do he was real bunk. Shis cat hi josh here. That up man was heathcliff. Even wanna say none because you know every time i watch a word. They always say i botched it. You guys watch chris bit but that's okay. I couldn't tell you the heathcliff in garfield gar villas white. I think it was just cool. Calm laid back sarcastic. He cliff was like a troublemaker bad yeah. I liked ti cliff so you originally did. That's my point. Is you call raja heckle and jacob but also it could be heathcliff live on garfield just to <hes> just to just to put the cats hanging out heckling thirty five years ago heathcliff premiered mirror lord. I believe i i skipped the cat cartoons. Yeah i'm not. I'm not a ca though i will say the means of some cats oh he does anybody else well. You're not don't put me all in in their. Y'all be having cats and stuff. No not in the roster castle want to be bothered with willing for sales house and he had a catalog me. You said he's like those bob. Cat those those those big ones so yeah. The cat cats was moving around. Let me repeat what do you mean is moving around. I'm curious okay. So how do i say this without sounding like <hes> antonio brown campbell's creek l. z. Just moving all slow and you sit in there all of a sudden he appears. They're very quiet stalking the always on the prowl. That's what they do what their purpose in the planet is to prowl in pounds when i was <hes> when we were trying the figure out if i was going to the cowboys bills living by self big old place to stay in my house and you don't have to stay at the hotel or anything like that i said no alkyl trump cool man you got cats and dogs because we don't really as a people we kind of do. We like dogs right right. We already fu cats. No cats can't do anything for you can protect you. They won't dispenser the doing. What do you want what open open that can give it to me now. Cats are well. What's up talk to discuss all right so there's an interesting piece on e._s._p._n. About baseball one hundred years one hundred years of the live live ball era and it's fascinating because baseball we talked about all its chains has changed now. Really you look at all these different things you look at the numbers. The one thing that has changed drastically ascoli is home runs but the rest of it is very similar to what it was as far as the frequency of a head frequency of a base runner frequency of all of these different things with the obvious exception option of home runs in the question is which is better baseball with a boatload of home runs or baseball were home runs are scarce or according to the story back in nineteen nineteen nineteen fans five games one hundred nineteen thousand nine hundred. You'll see a home run once every five games now mm-hmm twenty nineteen. You're going to see a homerun you go to a game. You're probably going to see a home run. We're gonna see more than one probably going to see more than i like seeing home runs but i but <hes> i like seeing them because i like it's just exciting like all of you know all of a sudden bang all were down. We're up. All you know it's like i. I liked that part of baseball so i don't understand why people complain because it's scarcity right exactly in one thousand nine hundred nineteen you could go to three games and never see a home run they <music>. You're listening for this who said of apply to get it out over one thousand nine hundred go back to one thousand nine hundred sixty when probably participation participation for african-americans baseball's okay but dad that's where it was when the best players in the league were a lot of black players and and then the seventy s same thing in the eighties kind of the same then it starts to trail off to where you have fewer and fewer branch out because then more latinos yes started to be allow shola way and baseball. They just lied it enough that same were you saying they're brown. Brown's with the point about the scarcity is if there's three home runs at night it's still fun and because it's fun to watch the ball over the fence but it's also not unusual whereas before when you saw him run it with something special and the other part is a little bit of aesthetics that and i've have come around on this i was i was more of the home run type of fan like i wanted to see home runs now because there's dodge you're gonna see four or five home runs in any watering-down water ordered to have -solutely well. I don't want to just see home. That's right gimme a single still a base now hit a jack good. That's good opportunity to steal a pace and opt in to hit and run but i don't with three solo shots. I don't want that and i don't warring boom. Play you want the defense. After play. You want plays at basis as if as fun as the homerun is it is but when the ball when a budgeted in the left centerfield gap and that guy takes off out of the fun you know there's going to be a play at a base could be a play at second base. It could be a played third gyco sliders valley way. There's a guy on base. There's going to be a play at the plate another thing. That's going to happen in like stealing bases just movement. That's not happening anymore. Because why are they going so basically if someone's gonna hit a home run they're not putting out at risk so there's way let's move to strike out or homerun strikeout homerun guess what's not going up right now. With that are ratings nineteen eighteen nineteen you could see a steel wants to twelve games now twenty four games and the big thing travis and i were talking about not at all in one thousand nine hundred nineteen once every eighty games. You can see a triple now. It's once every two hundred and four hundred one wow it triple which i don't know if it's like a guy's second base he goes. I'm tired. I'm good. It's a the the risk of trying to advance to third is not <hes> is is is too great as opposed to all. Stay here and wait for them to drive dry ed very quickly here. Think about this vince coleman couldn't get the ball in the infield every time that guy came up to bat you're watching because if he got on base even even if vince coleman or ricky henderson ricky henderson had some pop but you had these guys like vince coleman who he couldn't get the ball in the infield he comes up to bat. You're paying attention. Must dude was going to be on third base really really quick so far. That's gone and that's no good. He was so fast and you know the day next friday friday. 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I knew they all died in their altogether yup. I didn't know that part of it all right so remote thirty for thirty five come on now out. She's really good reporting talk. I saw the buddy holly movie. There was a great balls of fire during the louis. Hey you know what else is really good. I didn't pay it off. His birthday is brought to you. Jaguar land rover newport beach seventy three toward the sea visit land rover newport beach dot com land rover above and beyond no one else is pretty good all right it is football. Season key will start with a football topic. The chiefs are the odds on favorite to win the super bowl according to las vegas. The chiefs are the team to beat as a super bowl champs coming into the season. Take shake. I would take it right. I mean new england yeah. Oh yeah why not cause new england goes to the super bowl every year my wants. It's my it's there to step down one day right. Is there time to slow down. Is there time to let somebody. Somebody else grabbed the trophy. <hes> it's it's their time. Everything sometimes things go on forever but then eventually it stops and people take over the lakers win forever. No celtics win forever. No new england will be back at some point in time but they won't be back this year because kansas city to me in the a._f._c. is right there. They just got to figure out how to change that defense and get the defense to play is so hard for me. Evoke key to see someone be the favorite to do something when you have a historic season to be successful fifty touchdowns historic season. I need to see a normal season. It can be sustained and you still have a great deal for me to believe it but i said this to you. Before coach that you don't have to have af fifty touchdowns from patrick mahomes to be a successful winning team they can do it with four thirty haven't seen him do it yet. That's my point. They could do it with thirty thirty. Five in nike kit the rest of the touchdown somewhere else defensively special teams. I'm gonna adding one here because what you just said the new england patriots and tom brady. We'll finally start to show their age this season taking a shake it no they won't show their o._t.'s shake. It shake it. I gotta shake it. She's they won't show their age is that the pages won't finish the deal to be like a._f._c. Championship loss in kansas city type type situation for new all right. Stay with the patriots for second rob gronkowski in an interview. Yesterday said that he could quote easily return to the n._f._l. That it would take him one month month to get back in football shape rob gronkowski will play this season. Take it shake. It shake it. He won't don't play this season because bill belichick is not going to ask him to come back and bill doesn't want this in and out in and out in and out in in and out. That's not their person. It's not his personality so gronkowski. Pick up the phone sekou kubrick week nine. He'll be like well. We'll we'll let let me talk to let me talk to tommy. Let me talk to craft it. Let's figure it out that day and he'll come back to say now. We're okay because by the time what if author not but then they're not okay if they're not okay then the seasons probably gonna be over with them and then i'm going to need him back anyway. I know oh right that was that was like it either. Nobody likes being sad. Oh yeah he passed ready in a month key yeah yeah that's a long tastes for the he's already. He's already in finland guys stop. He's already in shape red-carpeted new slid. It takes different tasks about a month before the grilled chicken and grilled chicken. Didn't the muscular broccoli all broccoli. We saw the game last night. It was ugly. It was bad especially offensively both teams james. Look like you know what if we get a week or two of bad football like that n._f._l. Coaches will rethink the preseason. Take it or shake shake. Yeah that was one game was a little bit of an outlier. It's not something that happens to. Let's say we get two weeks of that. You're not it's no it's not going to happen is the key the coaches some coach who's gonna play their players in the preseason because that's what they know and they taught and they learned and that's what it is some coaches or say no so if the rams went seven games this year we the people do you think people all of a sudden go back to plan their guys know. Mcveigh is going to say i'm not putting my guys is again next year. Here's the here's the scenario that i was thinking about last night watching this. It could be one of those where somebody says. You know what we're right on the bubble. We might be a playoff team. We might not this thing could go either way but what if i can grab a couple early. Games didn't set a split in these two. I can get him in what i'm gonna do is. I'm going to be a little bit sharper for two weeks right out of the gate. That's the scenario to me that makes she's thank you know what maybe i will play my guys certainly after watching the rams first half against the raiders and then watching what we saw thursday there is something to be. He said about not having any preseason for starters. It just doesn't look right so you're right travis. A smarty pants may play their guys. The last two preseason gains because because then for them. They don't have the kinks to work out but if you're a bad team is not going to matter in my opinion because a good team is going to rise to the occasion with in the course of a game. Hey whereas a bad team. It doesn't matter if you've got a head start playing you guys. Not you stink you still think and and guess what why would you say your guys in the preseason last couple of games when when people were playing dogs your team's gonna be planning against dogs the last couple of games it doesn't it's not going to happen and out of the huddle sharp. You could do that in practice obviously not doc no. It's just that first of all they green bay green bay went up against a good defense in chicago aaron rodgers sack five times he was hurried. I don't know how many so so it's it's a little bit different. That's all it's your bisky going mean bitch bisky. You know that's for sure. Eagles head coach doug peterson said carson wentz. Let the team work for oh you carson. Wentz will take that advice. Take it or shake it. Take it take it all carson. Wentz will let the team worked worked for him. He got players. They brought in tucson jackson. They got a nelson aguilar. El al sean jefferies they they're toying around with the idea of adding melvin gordon to the backfield so when you start to look at that they're trying to give him as much weapons around him to be successful as possible. If you allow allow other people to do the job for you and you just get the credit. You'll be successful if you try to do it all by yourself. It's not gonna work. It's not gonna work. Ezekiel elliot will touch the ball twenty five or more times on sunday. Take it or shake take. I'll take really know camp. No nothing no soft torino renault joey bosa first time you go you pull something worse. I i said thirty five earlier i think between twenty five and thirty touches for him twenty twenty or so on the ground in a couple of screens bags balls out of the backfield to now check now's in all that to buy to check swing passes rail routes. I mean he's gonna they do fifty million dollars. You think they've just be like because then. I cut both ways though key. I just gave him fifty million dollars. I don't wanna blow a tire in the first game in china blow a tidy cleanest giants. They're trying to blow all four tires four of them right. I mean there's no there's no late. Let's we got sixteen games. We gotta play. We got the playoffs. Hopefully let's. Let's make sure that we don't have z. Cam leasing workhorse. We got two years. Maybe three you can't do that. Two or three years to utilize is him to get the best out of him. Running the ground like a dog. That's that's the terrier believe i know it is reported reported that the deal is like six or seven years eight years or something like that mess a two to three year deal. That's it. We're going to run in the ground. Get the most out of here and while we can because if we don't don't we're gonna wind up missing the playoffs this weekend. 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"Savannah show here on E._S._P._N.. L._A.. Sorry grabbed the wrong hit said again this headset over here. Okay when Jared Goff has his next delay of game it's Michael. You're not allowed to the headline on your show and I can't you can't even blame the beer because I did it. When I was sober to? This is true. You're sober no I have. I've only had two six so Greg Bergman the crack staff base in Ireland. I was not aware of this. I did just google. Ask Her not that not that. I don't trust him but I just wanted to double check and confirm. There is no waiver deadline anymore this year they implemented a singular deadline and major league baseball. Oh so this is it that rule folks wow this year. I still not worried. When did they do that? It was apparently implemented. I had no idea that I'm looking it up here. Bob Nightingale is a long time and moping U._S._A.. Today interviewed him a story here and yeah they got rid of it so okay so the dodgers. The dodgers are done John Yeah they're done. Everyone's done talent okay but it doesn't matter. I think you are what you are. Anyway like you said seventy wins yeah. What are you complaining about right? Yeah I accept not winning a world series. I just think that people overreact to the trade deadline. I think ultimately there's two teams in the sport thank you that have put themselves. What I I would say in a three teams? I would say that I think are far and away a cut above everyone else Houston the dodgers and the Yankees Fair enough right. I'm not even I'm not willing to put anyone else in that category just yet even though the cardinals are playing well even though the red sox for playing better right. They're not gonNA catch the Yankees in my opinion because they just want three out of four against them and it's basically down. Those are the three teams to beat. The nationals are playing and much better baseball right. Now I get that I'm not worried about them. Yeah Strasbourg is pitching well. I if dodger fan I get the whole tension of one thousand nine hundred eighty eight thirty one years remember I get it. It's been a while man I get it but yeah as a full grown human this. That's never seen a world series but the guy in charge is why not maybe not widely because it subjective but is regarded by many the guy in charge here in l._a.. Is regarded by many as the best guy to do this thing you know like he took a Tampa Bay rays team. Yeah that was full of a bunch of kids got out to the world series. You know what I'm saying what he's doing. This guy goes out of bill the roster you watch like you know about poker right yeah Phil Ivey doesn't win. Every hand correct can be right or wrong. It just depends but at some point when we get to the playoffs the postseason or the world series we're gonNA come back and revisit because the teams that did get stronger. We'll see how they do in the teams that stood pat at the deadline. We'll see how they do. Maybe at some point we'll wish the dodgers had had made a move at the deadline but as of right now with seventy like like you said a seventy one team. It seems like just sit tight. You're fine yet but we'll find out later pushing. The panic button just seems absurd the panic buses. It's there's no point in getting on the panic Boston baseball there isn't you're wasting your time wasting senior energy getting on the bus. It doesn't make any sense first of all. There's two seasons. There's the marathon of one hundred sixty two games which clearly the dodgers don't have to worry about because has they've got such a cushion that that's not a thing you know. We've actually joked on the air multiple times here whether it's on this show myself with Mason in Ireland when we do the cross talk so damn good. They're boring right. It's all over but the child right yeah have to have an epic collapse it yet. It's it's impossible right but what you have is you have the marathon and then you have the sprint sprint comes. He's in the postseason in October so I also think the wave you look at their roster the way they're constructed. They hit it on a home runs right like that. That's how you win in baseball now okay right good pretty good pitching and you hit home runs see. That's the thing that scares me yeah. They have have good pitching though that's what scares me in the postseason because hitting a lot of home runs doesn't really do it for all. It's not true anymore. She pitching is what wins for you in the Post. Look at the last three world series champions the Red Sox led the League in home runs the Astros lead the League in home runs. The cubs finished third so I just recent history three okay yeah. I'd rather lean on good. I think you still need a combination about no doubt but that notion of we gotta play Small Ball those days are done. Those things are taught at some point. You're going to have to go now honestly when you're facing good bitchy. No you're GONNA have to play small ball at some point. I mean there. I'm not saying that there's like zero Ason ACIS yeah. I'm not saying there's zero chance that that should happen yeah because you have to have the ability to play them all there. There's everything should be take. I'm not an absolutist yeah so everything is on a case by case basis but I am not a guy who believes in giving away outs a sacrifice is to me. I don't give away out. Give me a chance to get cody bellinger up to bat or this crazy lineup right back muncie whoever they've gotten the liner like give me a chance for those guys to drive in if you're facing ver- lander and this is all and you have to play small ball just to get one across the plan your for pitchers hot to we're one run is going to be the difference. I'll take a sacrifice. Just don't that baseball right now. There's a lot of those scenarios they come up occasionally particularly the season. They do Jerry but I think overall. I think that's how you the way you win. Baseball Games now is be the best slugging team right not always not always just home runs slugging percentage includes doubles triples things like that right like kids and driving it runs that to me is the way you went. Ziebel's drilled into my head good pitching good pitching always beats good hitting that wasn't I would lean on pitching the day adage adage for very long time I still think again nothing is absolute right like there needs to be a balance here right but I think that at spores offense is concerned concert. I'm less about over people way out like hell. No I know what I'm saying. I got in the regular season. No a some season yes. A sacrifice fly to me is different because you're trying to hit the ball for saying like you're trying to get a hit in that scenario but I want stealing basis like I'm done like don't steal bases either the legally so when I was a kid ricky Henderson Ricky Anderson Coleman yes they would steal one hundred bases a year. Yes on a bad year right right. Go Look at the League leader in stolen bases now what does he is. He over twenty five. I'll be surprised barely barely always understand that that's just not the way to win. It doesn't you're giving the risk isn't worth the reward in those scenarios steal the bag yeah yeah unless you have a guy that can do it or you're completely desperate true right. What was the fast guy can't hit center fielder billy? I can't remember his name. All all this guy can do with steel base. Yeah blindingly plasma can't hit right but those you have to be in a again. It's all a case by case scenario. I'm not an absolute this but I'm not I'm not stealing basis people. I'm not doing it. God You get Boring Baseball. That's pouring baseball. It's not a guide you hit it over the fence. This is true but unless you have that guy or you're in the steroid era at some point you're going to have to steal a bag or two yeah Billy Hamilton Billy Hamilton all my guy by guy can run hit. You can get into Greg. WHO's at studio listening or you go yeah because he's got the do you have the Blue Review Greg just text me and just say yes or no and I'll just text this? Is Your texting me right now anyway <hes> so anyway and I see the bubbles right now myself listening clearly at this point so you had brought up play Matthew yes so let let's do that on the other side. Oh Greg is going on the radio with Brian Cabinets from eight to nine say trade deadline special nice so there you go so Greg Birdman Brian Kamsky he from eight to nine so make sure you're listening to that here on E._S._p._N.. L._A. Seven ten we love Greg Bergman. I've known Greg Berkman for twelve years before he worked for Mason and Ireland really he works for me action. No kidding when I worked at Fox sports radio so makes you listen to Greg and B. K. from eight to nine so now I just need to know what's on from seven to eight so feel free punchy at some point to tell me that when you have a second soccer weekly so Dave Denholm soccer after week we'll talk about less L. A._F._C.. Galaxy all that stuff and then <hes> Greg and B. k. from eight to nine M._l._b.. Trade deadline special. There were more bubbles on my phone fold. Greg actually must have heard me say soccer weekly so anyway great great talking to you so either way we're golden road brewing. You and I will chat about Clay Matthews or what what kind of impact he could have 'cause no one dominant suit right. He's gone clay. Matthews brought in different position like how does that balance necessarily work. Pass rusher could be a thing potentially clay's not a young guy so let's tackle. That Pun intended all coming up in three minutes so Donald Show here on E._S._p._N.. L._A. Demarco far hanging out with me here at Golden Road Brewery happy see the folks here. I met a Cuban gentlemen over their lives here the O._C.. Or wanted to shout me out. Throw your hands up right areas and K Cuban Nebraska like how the hell did that to Nebraska Yeah. They had a for kids. They had this thing. The country's Houston called like the Peter Pan Exchange and the kids and the families were placed in different parts of the country and he was in Nebraska and imagine not knowing the language and open your Nebraska big time in like Miami L._A.. People speak Spanish. I bet the first thing he learned was corn Husker for sure he can for sure so by the way you asked me. This burger is delicious. It's got a lot of bacon and a lot of avocado and you asked how far I could get in those two and a half have three minutes not very far about three bites. Is that three bytes for you. It's all your bird. It's a it's a big burger. I mean but that's that's a legal man though nipple right there man thing I did have to I wanNA take some of the big enough so I can have it set as least send it back. They know it's take the bacon out. Come on now no heat the the Bacon Bacon could be almost like it's I'm watching the carbs a little bit so I wanNA speak in a few fries less bread. You know what I'm saying. Would you like to be on a diet eating a burger. Hey just thing you can do it. Come on got it. What I had this spelt look? I've got the Burger and run tomorrow on democracy lives by the beach. Really I do so anyway Clay Matthews yes so clay matthews who I mean look I had him on the show. He's great. I think that clearly he's at the latter stages of his career. Is that fair to say I would I would I would say hold the phone on that okay. Yeah I keep I keep saying it wrong. It's not claim after you junior. That's actually the third he's the third and his father played nineteen years. His uncle played eighteen so relatively Lee speaking in the family. I think he's got a lot left and when you watch him workout warm up and practice. He looks like he's twenty five years old really think something Liam was going on in Green Bay and it turns out. I was right okay. They fired Mike McCarthy. There's something going on with Aaron. Rodgers Mike Daniels got released right before can't there's something screwy going on in Green Bay so that could take a lot of the energy right out of you so I think coming here being treated properly as a vet. You may get three or four or five more seasons right at a high level out of this guy right at one point no team in the N._F._l.. Felt comfortable leaving their tackle either one one on one with Klay Matthew Right. I still think that guy exists. I still think that guy has that sort of ability or this. Football team won't be connor borrowing. No he won't come here to die. Okay you know what I mean and the next year looking be looking for a job. I think he'll be an effective player this year for this football. Wow that's interesting now is he's no longer in every down player though you think I think it'll be like Green Bay he'll play as much as he wants to as much as he can't right and I mean there's GonNa be some subs because Samson Abraham Com's guy who has a lot of experience yes now. He may be the first guy that goes to the bench but at some point he's going to take a series or two from Clay Matthews the third so you'll get your arrests that way which is great yeah. I think if you can find a way to spell Aaron Donald a few I think that would be great. You keep them fresh for the fourth quarter. You know what I mean second in close teams out so I still think at this point the way they're gonNA use him in Wade Phillips Defense. I think Clay Matthews the third is going to be very very dynamic for for this football team. That's fascinating because he's one of the guys that again. I liked the move because it just that that that's a veteran. That's a guy who's obviously kind of been through these big time time games that you expect to be in a particularly in the postseason and then you know their pass rush is somewhat questionable beyond Aaron Donald Right now so yeah having him in the full thing helps losing sue and Donald can choose gone what are they. What are they losing by losing a guy that was out there every single snap he played ninety eight percent of the stamps and he was very very versatile big guy three hundred and some odd pounds slotted as the nose tackle play left end played right in played everywhere and never left the field? That's going to be tough to duplicate and replicate but when you mentioned the pass rush the first guy I think of is not Aaron. Donald is actually Dante foul right now. He's a guy that's running for the money like Aaron Donald was is you have a good season. You can write your own check you. You can make that generational money coming off the edge. Somebody is going to benefit from all the attention Aaron Donald Seats Right. You would think it's going to be the next one I think it's going to be on McKay is going to be the guys on the outside that are going to benefit from the attention. He sees and get consistent. One on ones ninety percent of the time so fowler dollar is the Guy I think that could be knocking on the door of ten sex or more by December just because of the attention ninety nine. It's going to see that and the money yes yeah. He's is running for the money and look this is the year that he has to prove. He's done a bust. You couldn't crack the starting lineup for good in Jacksonville. You got you got here halfway. Through the season. Last skier had a pretty good run to end the year but we still don't know who you are and what you are as a player now. We get to see you for sixteen weeks. The job is yours right. I bet he he has one of those transcendent. Do believe Fowler has lived up to the billing to this point in his career so far I mean he's he's a pass rusher. You can tell that by looking at it you you can tell that he's got a natural wiggle yeah by watching him warm up so that's something they haven't had since Robert Quentin Chris Chris Long route here at the same time right so they've got a true defensive then a guy that could just flat go get it from the edge now. They need it for sixteen weeks and they need it when they need it most as in when the team team locks down on Aaron Donald Lange's forbids him from getting up the middle so somebody's got it went on the outside and that guy has to be fellow who's going to be the guy to replace soon the Middle Vote Sebastian Joseph days the guy that I like had the redshirt year. He's huge people when you think of beauty most people think alike Halle Berry right. I think his lower body is gorgeous. Okay we're defensive tackle. It's huge yeah. You have to iron his underwear in the sir mix a lot. Yes yes for tax. Purpose and great gains a guy that just grafted. I didn't grow up in the nineties doesn't get that resolutely got back yes he he does oh but over here is laughing time right but those two guys at least at the nose tackle spot can replicate or at least rotate in and out and give you what sue gave you know what I mean. Maybe even better because Sudan turn it on into the playoffs right so these guys are both it's. It's a rookie and a second year Guy Hungry. They don't know what they're doing just yet but they Mac may actually give you more than what sue gave you in the regular season. That's interesting because I again. You're talking about young guys who are trying to prove themselves. I think that that can that can be benefit for a team to have a guy out there. That's like you know I'm still trying to make my way in this league. I mean you're only as good as what your film says. No doubt and you can be here. One day gone the next very quick very true yeah absolutely when I talk to Greg gains about coming into the N._F._l.. L. And what the team expects out of him I said what do you hope to accomplish this year. He looks me right in the Anglos. Whatever errand wants me to do and I'm like that's perfect yeah? That's great great. Yes that's funny by the way if you missed Aaron Donald yesterday we're going to have him probably around six o'clock or so he was on your c around five thirty so show we'll we'll run that in the six o'clock hour I haven't figured out exact intimidated. Never you know right yeah because he even though he is a massive massive man and he's built like compact right like it's easy like he's not like. I've been around defensive tackles before that are the prototypical defensive tackle right or like the guy you want in in the movie right yeah yeah x four six five three hundred pound a big nasty yeah yeah Yeah Yeah Chester mcglockton like Nassau's Kinda guys right. Who's the guy that played for Buffalo Forever Smith no that was the defensive tackle just retired? Yes Kyle Williams. Yes yes right six four three twenty. He's that no and I understand before when he's coming out of Pitt right Aaron Donald where GM's would be like kind of small the rams the rams were split on Aaron Donald Right and you believe that had that had to stand on the table and say he's the best guy in the draft right yeah. Some people even called him a change of pace defensive tackle. What in the world is that yeah? That's crazy right and now he's the best player in the game yeah yeah it is pretty pretty wild but when you just see it because he's not very tall right he just built compact yeah and the strength that he possesses is incredible. I saw him slap a face mask off another human being not grabbing rip off. He slapped it off the guy's fate. Yeah I believe ended all drama right there. Yeah yeah absolutely believe it. Show what I would say when you have to be dated by him is this is I wasn't intimidated by by any stretch of the imagination what I was is because he's so nice right like he's very soft. Spoken is probably a way to describe it yeah and just get him to talk about himself. I did a little bit. It's the hardest thing in the world yeah do it yeah yeah we talked about the training with the knives law which is Kinda funny but people here can't wait though here maybe in about like thirty minutes or show thirty thirty five minutes. We'll run it but yeah he is just for the type of guy. He is very humble right like he arguably is the best player in the League so I'm GonNa ask you a question on the other side about him specifically but more along the lines about defense in the N._F._l.. And its place so let's do that on the other side I kind of recap the trade deadline at the top of the hour at six o'clock for those that didn't know what happened. There was a big move made by the Astros dodgers made some small time moves that should help the club. We'll get to all that coming up at six Aaron. Donald maybe around six fifteen but let let's get to kind of wear defense wise now in the N._F._l.. N._F._L. and if it has a place that's coming up in two minutes here on E._S._p._N.. But I I gotTa tell you waiting is never fun. Usually nothing good happens habits when you wait my buddy Jacob and the law of Jacob and Ronnie WanNa make sure you don't wait after an accident immediately after an accident before talking to the Insurance Company called Jacob Jacob his team will do all the work make all the phone calls handle. The paperwork set doxa points whatever the case may be because when you speak to the insurance company I know they can use your words against it. You know they record that stuff right so Jacob but his team to guide you through the process. Get you the compensation you deserve and you don't pay Jacob unless he wins. That's right nothing out of pocket so if you're injured in an exit the first day the I thought the first call should it'd be Jacob. 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If I go too long without car without carbs okay I don't have I probably have cut my carbon. Take easily by well over half early sixty percent when you walked up. Maybe that was like wow is that George occurs looks good. Thanks well up yeah so carbs here. Kito Diet is that close or akin to the Atkins Diet similar similar. What's different Kito adding that Atkins did not think that there's intermittent fasting really prosciutto and there's you can have your carbs most of them in the morning yeah take your body's just getting revved up? You know what I'm saying where enough kinds you're not doing any none yeah yeah works lose weight quick yeah but then you have a piece of bread and gained that's with Atkins. You're telling me so with Kito. At least you're still have yards and you're having a good carbs like look at you roots and things I like it yeah healthy living. I like it. You gotTa have it. That's why I always throw avocado and stuff. Why Orders Burger mood why order the burdens you're not gonNA get a patty and cheese but I had who a lot of red this morning on breakfast all right so I gotta balance it out and I want to somebody else could have had that bone and I wanna speak in some fries? I'll I'll eat. The bundy was delicious. I did have the two two bites three bites. Cut the part that you have been the bug and I'll be your car gear enough demarco far this year on this show a golden road brewery across Angel Stadium. Thanks to hang thanks for you guys for hanging out and stopping by today and always listening appreciate you guys listening as well congratulations to the winners that we had today to the angels game with us. We had a bunch of people there with their families and stuff but the kids it was great. No one's corroborated your strike yet. It's on video which angle I mean you didn't see the catches. I can make a strike on video. I mean the catch is move okay. I'm just checking all right. He framed it properly he bought saying no one's corroborated the strike yet. The audience wanted me to throw heat because they said I'm Latino and I need to throw the show was it's kind of justification for it and then I said you know what I'm just GonNa hit the glove. After L Z hit one low it was a little low strike and I'm like Nah. I felt better. I'm just GONNA put it right there. I put it right there. Okay so I'll do that and I you know he framed it. I hit the globe that was the end of it so speaking of Burgers by the way yes before I ask you the question about defense in where it lies America's favorite and least tapert Fast Food Burger survey is out there on Yahoo today. Would you like to take a guess at who America's Favorite Fast Food Food Burger is yes. This is nationwide right. I guess it's hard to get away from McDonald's fast food right. I mean you can't say in and out that's not everywhere in and out is still a national brand though because they're on a lot of states across the states okay Texas then I would say Hananel the Dow is number one and three percent nice rating our friends at McDonald's came in the bottom. McDonald's is the worst I came in at the bottom of the list no kidding how many on the list one two three four five six seven eight nine ten eleven twelve thirteen thirteen thirteen out of thirteen how is the jacket was five guys burger third was co versed never had a covert. Oh Yeah Good Burger. Where's that they have the buttered bonds? Okay yeah good burger who yeah butter steak at Ruth Chris's then you'd like Colbert's yeah yeah you would so those were the three the big three wow right there. I I WANNA fight people that say like like they say like in and out is overrated. I I really WANNA fight people over that. Most people say that when they're from Texas yes they think what Burger say what a Burger is better than not at Burger only got fifty eight percent see. That's what it is that Texas okay. Thank you so you have it so defense. <hes> we asked Aaron Donald The question about Kenneth Hannah defensive player with the M._v._p.. Says he's going to try yeah but do you believe in today's game that it is possible for defensive player to win the M._v._p.. India no no. I think you have to score you have to be on the other side of the football. I mean if you're a defensive M._V._p.. At the M._V._p.. Of the League on the the defensive side that means it's defensively scoring is down. You're the most important guy on the field but no I mean I think you're m._v._p.. He is probably going to be a quarterback running back or receiver. You know what I mean people that put the ball in the box J._J.. Watt when he was having his run when he was the best the defensive player in the game had to get you know offensive production scoring touchdowns to to get nods to get a look for the M._v._p.. So no I think it's impossible for any defensive player to win m._v._p.. This in this day and age I mean the closest we ever got was a special teams player right when Mark Moseley Isley wanted to strike year and eighty-two kicker for the Redskins yes right on kicker lassen straight on guys yeah. That's probably the closest we've got right. I mean if anybody can do it. It would Abad yeah as of right now but you're going to have to do something beyond what you've already done and the only thing he hasn't done in the sack record no score. Oh that's the only thing you I haven't done his. You've taken the ball away ended drives. You've done everything defensive. Tackle can do and even more the only thing that would sway votes is if if you score yeah there was one year I wanNA say two thousand six. Jason Taylor won the defensive player of the year. He scored a couple of touchdowns and he did get some votes m._v._p.. A._p. that year you have the ball in the box. Even though he played on a team that was he didn't win. He couldn't win because he was on a team. That was I believe under five hundred that year that was Nick Sabin Second Miami Yeah Great Player but Khalil Mack would have a better shot at it but because linebacker guy yeah. He's got the chance for picks. More strips acts absolutely yeah but I mean I think you'll come close even if he's in the conversation you know I remember I went to school with a guy named Steve. AETNA finished third in the voting for the heisman yeah from a defensive tackle position that to me is considered a win if you get that high if you're in the conversation so yeah with brees with brady with Rogers with all the guys with all the the offense of explosion in the national football. It'll be hard to top one of those guys. Let let me ask you this. There used to be a mantra in the N._F._l.. And by the way at the top of the hour we're GonNa Kinda. Catch you up what happened with the M._l._b.. Trade deadline and don't forget coming coming up after us at seven is soccer weekly but eight Greg Berkman and Brian Cabinets here to do an MBA trade deadline special show here on the station. Do you believe that the four prime positions are still quarterback left tackle corner and pass rusher or do you believe that's evolved. No I still think it's the premium spots you need. The Guy The guy that can throw it a guy that can protect the thrower and a guy that can knock how come down the road and then the receiver on the other end so so you think that corner is still one of them my choice if I had a choice between a hot pass rusher or a shutdown corner I'm taking the pass rush right so you would rank them. How quarterback number one hundred one left tackle number two? Okay you need to have tack to protect the guy then receiver then pass rusher receiver than pass because you booted quarter out of that original core four four that I would take. I would take the pass rusher. I would take the quarterback I would take the left tackle over the shutdown corner. Wow Yeah I mean there's other has evolved evolved in that sense yeah. There's only so much they can do and your defensive guys saying right. I mean if I have a great left. Tackle can have a mediocre quarterback that can get better right because you can't get tool. If I have a hall of fame type quarterback. My offense is going to be better because of that guy. You know what I mean yeah. If I have a shutdown corner and that's it there's still chance that can lose all sixteen games. You know what I mean. They just won't be able to pass that side of the field interest. What do you think but but I'll say this? I think football's headed is everyone needs a good nickel. I mean because that third linebacker is isn't on the field feels much your right that guy's on the field more so you better have a dynamite nickel nowadays man. I just don't know like I feel like if you can still get a great shutdown corner I mean I don't know how many guys because of the way off have evolved can like shut down a half of the field like Dion. Maybe used to back in the day but I still think if you can I find it again not beyond guy who can just lock up his man Durrell Riva Style and you don't have to worry about that side. That's pretty valuable. There's just not that many of them anymore and the rule changes have hurt those guys a lot more more than anything else Oh. It's only going to get worse this year with the P._i.. Right and you can challenge everything now so we'll Z.. But just from what I see now when you need it most you need someone that can get to the passer and when you need it. Most you need a guy that can make a play at quarterback right in either with your legs or with your arm and definitely on the other end. If you've got type Flock top-flight receivers you've got a chance to stay on the field longer which means you have a chance to score more points corners I think I can I'll be okay with average corners versus having one guy that's a lockdown and nothing else coming up next will go into what happened at the trade deadline. The Astros got a lot better. That's not great news for the dodgers. The dodgers did some stuff though that I think could help their team a little bit. Anthony Davis went Jimmy Kimmel talking about his experience with the Lakers and how Stroz Arizona Basic. I think it was four prospects for Zach Cranky and what he's an excellent pitcher still like I still have questions since about maybe in the postseason it hasn't always gone great for but I think he absolutely helped a team. That already has got a ton of riches right like the rich get richer here in this particular situation yeah you know I'm a big fan of of Lou. Now I get what he's trying trying to do and I think that's where I learned. My baseball was from the Mid West where pitching makes right cardinal cardinal makes right so so I think this could be the one that sends it towards them in the postseason because like you said man that's that's a top three outs game. One burland game two Garrett Cole. WHO's tough as nails and then grinky? Is your third starter. Yeah you know so depending on how that goes. which guy do you bring back? If you need for game seven you know what I mean. That's that's a tough three guys to have in the postseason yeah for sure so cranky has a pitch in the postseason a a ton recently because the diamondbacks hasn't been that great two years ago obviously they were in the playoffs. They beat Colorado though he didn't necessarily have a great game three and two thirds gave up four earned and quick hook for him right in that particular one and then lost to the dodgers it went five innings. There gave up three and look if you look at his postseason career it was rocky to start many many years ago. He got really good even in the postseason but his last postseason appearance not ideal seven to seventy I._R._A.. Those two games combined again small sample sample size yeah but he's getting up at age he he may not have the exact kind of stuff but again they may not need him to have the he crazy electric stuff that he had a couple years ago to win because they've got depth as you pointed could be five point five get to the bullpen right. That's all they need need him for and he's perfectly capable of doing that right so are are you saying that they shouldn't have made the move. I just don't fall over yourself because of the I just don't like people are freaking out today. The frigging effort to reach frigging after the dodgers didn't make the move they wanted them to make and freaking out because cranky went wait to the Astros and all I'm saying is like yeah he's good but he's not unstoppable by any stretch of the right dodgers themselves in two thousand seventeen right got three runs and five. It gets your attention though it does yeah. I think it's the name right. That's what it is is that here's the other thing I've learned in sports right and you could talk about this when it comes to like baseball and basketball have this going for them. I guess football. There's some of this to where you know. The name and you're like Oh yeah that guy that guy. I want that guy on my team. I'm glad my team made the move for that guy and I'm not saying this isn't GonNa pay off for the Astros. It might very way the hell do. I Know Jeff waste smarter than I am but he's a hacker though but for years people fall in love with the names like you hear like Carmelo Anthony for the last couple of years right like we were talking about him earlier. Ben And people were like Oh yeah metal just needs the right situation again and Oklahoma City dried and Houston dried and all of a sudden. Maybe it's about the situation but the fan base has got him. We got no yeah yeah you know. Sometimes you forget that father time is undefeated. Feed it right and those guys may not be as good as you once remembered. You just don't the name because they were great point hold. His grinky cranky is I can look it up. If you really thirty second let's go to more INFO and be over thirty five years thirty five and two hundred eighty three days actually okay so he'll be. He's he'll be thirty-five if they get to the world series. He'll be turning thirty six. I guess in a sky or a top of the rotation guy that's that's been leitch. You still have a lot left I don't know about you're not old at that point for guy. That's I mean he's. He's not throwing gas yeah. I mean not a power pitcher. I mean he it just saying there's not a ton left in the day yeah yeah I mean I think he's got enough for a good run possibly the next couple of seasons. I think it's a good move yeah if I had a chance to to bolster my lineup my my rotation with a guy like him. I'd make that move so I think that there's two trains of thoughts right. <hes> Burland was thirty four. I guess or thirty three when they when the astros grabbed him but burland again had attract a better track record of success. I would say the postseason his brand is better. Yeah and there are certain guys. Lou Now seems to be those one one of those kind of guys. It's like prospects are suspect till proven otherwise which I believe in except when you look at a dodgers team again it's a case by case basis you look at the dodgers team that has Andrew Friedman running it that loves values. He's the complete opposite right. He values his draft guy. His prospects his draft craft guys and they kind of hit like you look at the cody bellinger Cory seager right Alexander Dugo Walker Bueller who I think is going to pay dividends like he's. He's paid some already. You look at the guys that he's held onto. There's a reason held onto the I mean that's so there. There's different ways to build the franchise. If you have guys coming up that you are going to be good even if you're this close if you're a seventy one team I'd be reluctant to give those guys up now. Some people like you said they get caught up in. We need to win right now because we haven't won in thirty years right right and if you come up short short sheet yourself herself for ten years you know what I mean but if you can go ahead and make a move to win now and it's almost guaranteed it would be worth worth it for me to give up or to risk those ten years to get it done now. If I get that guaranteed with the guy that I get there's just no guarantee though right I mean I mean sometimes. You can't if you get the right guy. If you have a big need you know if you get a closer at the deadline. I don't think the dodgers really have no big no no but if you did if you if you had a need for were closer and you can get one right and that's the guy that's GonNa put up. Go ahead and mortgage the future right but if you're close with what you have why wasted wastes your future for for right now because a guy like Gavin Lux the dodgers needed second basement he's hitting close to five hundred or whatever the hell it is. He's going to be the is that right. It'd be there for ten years and you're going to have another guy who is going to be there for ten years in theory with bell injured seeger and all those guys I mentioned so you're building this monster monster ball club some it's still very much cost control for several years so then you can go after in free agency potentially if you so you so the guy we're not costing you any of those valuable guys. You have the form but you heard Ben Lyons man people don't WanNa hear that they want to hear arrayed series now they've been at the world series two years. They WanNa hear championship. Now wins the Breyer they been in the world series to us and you know why being in contention. I Yeah Karen Dante it. They will be there for a third time in a row this year. I'll take that that yeah yeah. This'll be fun. Yeah I mean I. I can't doubt they're good enough right yeah. They've got they've got good enough players and they're great at the plate. You know what I mean. No one's scares me in the National League yet they will we'll wait. I mean you don't WanNa get cold outside. Thanks change sure yeah teams start to separate themselves the Madison Bumgarner of the world start to pop up around September right right. Yeah Somebody Outlook we'll give you he moved yeah. I would have been a little more fearful because he's been a dodger killer big time. Did he vetos taste. I think they feel they're still within striking distance of the wild changed everything okay so the minute he was out there then they changed. They haven't run. They've gone on a run. They had a crazy easy July basically basis. I want to say since June twenty eight twenty nine they they they were like four or five games like that. Something's in the air were bad teams. All of a sudden become unstuck gauged yeah no they were sixteen and three at one point so it can't that'd be the I'm going back to June July yeah yeah yeah yeah but in July you're right yes so back. He didn't move. I'm good with that. You know what I'm saying. God Yeah but that that's kind of some of the stuff that's going on so the dodgers did add Jerko good utility utility player perfect type of guy that you could just kind of slide in and who love them in the postseason right yeah and he's the guy was tested in those scenarios to post. He's been a champ camp before right. He's been on the world series champ before like He. He is a guy who can play shortstop to play second base could play third base kid. Just fill multiple roles can pinch hit in the perfect situation. Now there's two that goes on there and then the kid they added from Tampa Bay the Left handed reliever which thought they needed that too and you you know is is numbers. Don't pop adam caloric but it solid yeah I would trade for League just for the fight so he went to Cleveland just in case about how crazy that fight Pittsburgh best baseball fight. I've ever seen for Cincinnati Psychic. Bring them all on. That's the first time I've seen the pitch actually looks like he can fight. It was the wildest thing this still pictures that people took the videos incredible but the still pictures I think are even more incredible because guys like hanging autumn and he's just like on top of everyone. Yeah people at speed looks like a wrestling picture yeah. It looks like the Royal Rumble. It does look guess. My favorite baseball fight actually was the guy door when he punched Joey Bats. Yes that's my favorite. This is my second yeah yeah that happened in the field which was incredible. Why would you try him yeah? His name is rough-knit rooted but it looks like rough-knit. Try Him yeah. We didn't get to the Anthony Davis stuff so here's what we're doing. Let's get Andy's Jimmy Kimmel. Yesterday talked talked about the trade to the Lakers collided the clippers and space jam two as well so we'll hear from Anthony Davis show at six thirty to push back the Aaron. Donald Interview knew that we had yesterday for those that may be missed it here in the six o'clock hour because it was at five thirty. We'll have it at six thirty Aaron. Donald the Rams M._v._p.. Even though he wasn't the League
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"Yup Good podcast hope it doing well getting ready for the holidays and all that good stuff. I'm super pumped. Just launched the COBU GB five zero K Swiss. You you can go to Gary. V E DOT COM slash five zero zero five G. Gary G. A. R. Y. E. DOT COM slash zero zero zero five for more information. I saw a bunch of you. Pick them up from social and from community. In the last couple of days we are unlimited quantities. At this point make sure sure you get a pair for yourself or your favorite entrepreneur. This holiday season Gary v DOT com slash zero zero five. This is Gary v Audio experience. Everybody this is Gary Bay. NER Chuck Episode to Seventy Four of the ask Gary Show. Hassan nauseous nauseous in the building. Yeah we've already by the way we did a much better version of the show already before the show because our energies were one plus one equals eleven not even twenty three which is the inbetween of me liking somebody. The one plus one equals eleven is going to be home. He's with this person for the rest of my life a behind the scenes to our people through direct messages. It's been very odd. I've been looking forward to this dramatic a bit of a long day for me. I had Roy Jones junior some fan quincy and non wealth from the jets jets are my religion. And now you're here. Thank you and I'm you guys Andy. Admit your sad glad that everything happened prior to the central was not in the podcast or the show. But you're happy. The Kyle was documented. It for daily and we'll will be believed some of that you're equally happy that we may cut up one minute of something that was said before and it may go on video. Okay good it's going to have a yellow yellow thing around here. My thing is going to be annotated above here he's in it and Kevin Durant may like it dope. Is that one. You think you have to tell you this. I've a lot of people in the show. I always say the CLICHE. The I think it's super it's very obvious to me. I gave you a compliment off the era of like how you've audited me. What I'm up to is how I judge everyone you interesting? I've got a real fucking rag. Yeah it's a mirror game. I judge everybody body in the world based on how they judge me. Because I think I'm GonNa `Nigma hard to figure out than the smarter. You are the more you believe you believe so much that I'm like fuck. This is really fucking smart. So now what I know is because of that. And that's cultural awareness of distribution. I think a lot of my fans a already know who you are but more importantly a lot of them don't and will really become fans of your some excited. I'm even curious of how you're going to answer this question. Who how are you? And how do you describe yourself. And what's the origin story. Go My name. I'm a comedian and correspondent on the daily show. Oh on comedy central and yeah. I'm a comedian storyteller. Ya What's the origins origins out. How how did I get into this? Okay so Overly origin the comic books like a spider bit. You're totally totally totally. Essentially give him the homecoming King Story. Okay this culture ultra here. So born raised Northern California child of Immigrants First Generation. A lot of your story. My story super super similar eldest in the family family so therefore I had to like sort of carry the load. You know what I mean. Sort of defined defined a great life. I know one of my famous jokes from my special on Netflix. Talk about how much younger siblings bring nothing to the table. They're basically worthless. Humbly Rag. The the netflix special. Like I like the way you weave that in like. I want to Netflix special astle and I like the way you slid that slid into the Dr. No you know what it is is people go. How do I see it and you have to let people know? Hey like migrates has been synonymous with comedy. So you're with your cab half cyber. Hey Man who are. I know you you comedy. We're GONNA FLEX I go. Oh God it it has been synonymous with you do comedy. Where can I see it? I don't believe you all just like telling you that you don't they don't believe you know no no like they cab. Drivers have to drive opened open microbes around all night between between seven to two. Am New York. City is the place to do comedy. But if you say you're on Netflix is just like in the eighty s and ninety S. When you say I had a half hour? Hbo Oh special. Same thing fucking so. It's not just enough. Say Look at my clips on Youtube. It's a curated thing on Netflix. Cool so make fun of younger siblings again it makes me feel younger siblings. Younger siblings basically inherit everything from us. Close culture money. They're all. I have my own opinions. You downloaded that from his right right literally. Took all of that for me. You bring nothing to the table. You are diet me. That's right you're low calorie jake real quick your number one in the family we brothers yes under said download it my deepest apologies. My Divas don't answer the Middle Dot. Is that as we all agree that the Middle Child proportioning the worst situation situation. Okay can I just say something thirty seconds thirty second time. Is there anything come out. So by the way everything I thought about you just been confirmed in my heart breaks my heart by the way because now I'm on my team empathy because you get it so hard in every single video my real bad in holy shit can fan mark. Hey sounds you guys control the EH did you guys get the edit literally put in a cut where you win kyle. It's one thing we're babb and win. Dude homeboy who fucking bring me the right leads. Let's wait a minute. Wait a minute shaped me. The right you are first of all your depth of knowledge of what's going on with us is a me. You're my best friend. Let's say something because I know that you know so much. There's certain things Cayo. Hi All the other day at an episode where the last four and a half minutes of the episode that he submitted the fact that even says this is not a joke. This netted make it. The last two and a half minutes of the episode is him editing. The episode has unbelievable humility. Kyle comes out the gate the third fourth seventh one. He's done it's like you know what's a good idea while nobody's looking and so there's not that much contact as Gary was busy. I'M GONNA make fifty percent of the video. Just cost me. The he went the he's the Anti Babbitt going humility long in college. Like fuck it. If this goes viral you leave tomorrow. You're yeah he's like he's been for Gary. Get it online sweating so I think happened. He's like wait Hassan coming in and a week if he sees this episode he may hire me direct so he he killed it. He went the other way I agree. Listen we've we've established at DIRAC is grossly overrated. Holy Shit. Yes we love it all right so what. There's installing to do my darker where it's going to be a dark horse since tyler is mad. Look Tyler Schmidt. I want to poach you so bad. Should the speed at which the liver my amazing abilities unbelievable his reacts Message Reply Game. Unbelievable him looping. I'm talking about just because you humbly like Hassan so much that you probably you and and and the people behind him you admire so much. Do you feel that you are answering him a little bit quicker than let's I'd say the people that you don't admire or think that has got to be so right. Let's her slides into your hands. You respond as Fast Wolf if your roof is great. What was the guy and when he took all the ball busting that I did at the White House correspondence and are very well? So did he walked. Took it very well wolf and slip in the course you are really you know what I'm super impressed. I'd be the same ship. You're really good at it. Really Go. Yeah you've created context in such a natural flow. You do this a lot. We're so bad I agree with you you got to create some context like we'll storytelling properly but think about the meetings that we go into like one hundred percent agree and I know like I want to break the library values. Yes so we gotta get those in your comedian. Dude you do deuce sets you basically do that you know I got a sojourn legally do sets. I got off the record. I've got to talk to you about something that's happening. My world based on comedy comedy agents thinking that. I'm a comedian. Yeah I gotTa Really Talk to you about this actually ask you something in the bigger question is I think I'm the best comedian world and I think I'm but actually you know what fuck it. I'm going to do it. I've got my Netflix. Special is going to be so who special is going to be downloaded so many help help that. Her shots shots fired shots fired or is this story. Child of immigrants grew up in. I grew up in Davis California was a big speech bay. Kid I really really loved arguments presenting your point in argument in your position. I did you new cliche. Good student I was classic and you know this is an Indian kid. I wish I was good not great so I got Nah. I and you know exactly what I'm talking about I was I was middle of the pack Indian which meant I was top of the pack. Everybody else but that ain't cutting it that I was I was destined to go. Do you know about Edison touch. So that's where I grew up and I was the immigrant as a Russian kid and the nineteen he needed five kit and nine kids last name Patel moved that summer and everybody was like what and then I was an American now because I was more immigrants not me he also. This is cool until I realized. Wait a minute these are my people because they were the only other hustlers. They wanted to make money like all my all. My friends in middle school were Indian. Kids hits because they also wanted to shovel snow and wash cars and make money but to your point I was deason fs. They weren't doing anything and getting straight as I was like. What the fuck? Yeah so you like that. Yes thank you but no no no no but as owner scarlet a on your face hang on the false tyler. My report card. This report card up hole gets you the report card this report working class rank. I will give you Sir Bro. I wasn't present. I purpose to sixty seven to seventy three. What were you? I was probably one school. No but but I think you know what's so crazy because he was such a absolute failure with academics. You can hold that over anybody who got B.'s. These BS dude you square ass motherfucker. that it's so crazy how entrepreneurship and like it's like on the Bizarro. World Mc fuck this if thousand dollars a weekend when I was twelve in two thousand seventeen. I'd be like fucking genius the next this I was getting shit on but everybody I didn't read Catcher in the Rye over the weekend so that over time about pause fuck read that one hour hosted owns all over his. This is why he keeps going he was there. Are you guys know this. There's like fifteen videos in the video of him. Being I was a loser loser. People call me a loser getting decent. F- scam fucking suck then. There's just like him complex conroy. In that now that being said you're right but I think a common thing that we talk about is I sort of hit my strategy wall and I say and what. I'm saying entrepreneur. It's like oh I can't get into it. That's scary you or is that like cool cool with that. I realized I think my freshman or Sophomore Year of college when I started doing stand up was that I can't play someone else's race right and so there's a lot of immigrants that watch you watch this stuff and I think think if you have ten kids. All ten of them aren't designed to be doctors and they're forced to and what am I really good buddies is he. He dropped his gem on me. He's like how many future roomies have. We lost to become electrical engineers hundred percent right and so for me gene. Do you know what my fear is right. Now it's going the other way. Yeah and I'm sorry I don't want to just take this because there's some of you out there right now. Some of you should go work. Look at being a McKinsey and Goldman and will crush it right. But you think it's this became cool and you're gonNA WANNA start of dry cleaning and you're gonNA fucking fail right and so you know it's just self awareness. Yeah so for me. I was like I can play the game. Everybody else's playing right and I can go to the Caribbean and and do med school in the Caribbean and come back and do that thing that a lot of immigrant parents to do or you know in my freshman year I sort of discovered. Stand up comedy more. You know what's Davis loser lived at home. Love it right immigrant parents. Let's do this. I lost you. Know t three t three was was from the t three era. Remember everybody lime wire was downloading everything. So I didn't have cable growing to know what this guy was doing. A buddy brother over there should be in jail. A buddy of mine. Nine a buddy of mine shows me. He's like you'll just stand up comedy. I'm like how this is the worst part of Seinfeld. I hate stand up comedy. I didn't have cable so all those comedy central half hour specials became I missed. Mike is the worst cold. I'm thirty to keep going. So I see Chris. Rock's never scared. This isn't that all came out for the purple suits and I'm like man. He's talking talking about politics. The war in Iraq like really heavy that stand up and then it clicked for me. I go stand up is funny speech and debate where you can and were you class clownish. No I'm like a lot of COMEDIANS. I was actually pretty quiet. Like taking stuff in thinking about doing the long division in my head and being like. That's that's the take so what happened. Asks the funding and then I just started doing open. MICS open mics. Straight up. And tell me about the first one. I one actually went pretty good. Really Yeah and that was that was it. Yeah like into me that it was felt like every laugh. I got and I didn't crush but I did good enough every every laugh. What was the one that got the bed or joke that got this? Is Lightweight notice. How easy when it's your thing you know every yeah I love how quick the yeah? Yeah so this is like an og. Hey I live at home with my parents I never. I never want my dad to pick up the phone because he will give directions to the house and the wrong way like. Hey go down. Montgomery what does that Montgomery. That's what I said. Montgomerie take a laugh drive past the McDonald's McDonald's McDonald's four thousand on the left. Let's the address. Four four thousand left Click Bay immigrant. Ads Do this right. And that's GonNa get it. It's a hack whatever but the like it got laughs and it felt like those moments. I could see the Matrix. What happened next? What was the next kind of like DOT GOOGLE DOT COM? How do you become a comedian question? Mark mark go boom how to become a comedian. Go to your local open mic. Sign up if you can't start your own open mic. I literally just did everything started in my own show. Went to the College Board. Started a comedy club. Hi I'm Hasan Minhaj. I would like to be president of the Comedy Club. Are there any students at UC Davis that want to become a comedian book. They issued me ten thousand dollars. I then called other bigger comedians. Hey Amazon is I'm the president of the Comedy Club. Will you come to my university. I will open for you. This is where we're good thing. We weren't roommates because I'd have been like Bro Before we spend the I'm GonNa go buy a bunch of Shit at toys R us. That's GonNa be thirteen twenty-seven the worst but the thing that you flipped you flipped charge skis and and and and stuff like that. I realize I can flip jokes. Love it so if I build a five minute set and you could own in the right at that point. Yeah like I'm burks like no but to me. I'm comedians musicians. I'm so Improv. It right like when I think about hip hop. I'm always I always ask for it. I'm like who spits it from the Dome Tom Perez. Who writes always like? Oh I'm like the spitters. You're like a comedian. That works it out on stage. Yes so you'll do your set and he'll do his same opener that he does it. Every single tax the houses beats right. And it sharpens hundred percent. So He's a guy who works at onslought lose wait a minute now. I'm pumped me. Who is that? Historically in comedy. He was a Chapelle Chapelle. Great and he's still he's still considerable work on onstage. Comedian Marc Maron. Okay Chapelle a what about although deb Richard Pryor. I don't know enough about got it wrong but rock is very wrote. Yeah I know. He's like Yellow Pad of paper point. And if you actually look at the the transcript of what his act. Is it straight up like a legal argument. Wow just straight love. Here's the position hypothesis. Boom Evidence Hey. Evidence be evidence. I'll repeat it again. Oh you don't believe me de I'll repeat it again. Oh you still don't believe me G. H. I.. Applause break drop them. I think I think my Mike my speeches have I think. I was very affected by Chris. Rock and Richard. Pryor when I when I yeah allies myself on stage business this keynote yeah I literally have that cadence right like the delivery of my point right I when people talk about the comedy thing. I'm like that makes so much sense. I listened to so much of it as a kid. Yeah the only difference between what you do and what we have to do. A standup says are should has to be airtight. Yeah very much. There can't be lows in between ranting at sometimes people and there's a long your hundred that's but that's the beauty and nats the struggle and what I love about comedy. Is that from minutes Zero Colon zero zero to sixteen zero zero. I love that. It's gotta be tight that's cool. So do you go on the bunk like some of the characters like when you get ready for like when you did your special. How did this go that you knew he was coming? Do you go into like the cocoon and like fucking practicing shifts thous different. That was like I felt. I had a really powerful to me. Homecoming king was kind of like a brown John Hughes movie. Add a great story to tell my life growing up just like oh your first hip hop album. It's your life story. Know everything about so deep and so if I'm sad that I don't do the lemonade thing anymore. Because I don't WanNa bore anybody mixing it up. Yeah but that was the best time because I like fucking like just telling. Yeah so for me. I just knew that as like okay. I got to get this right so I started work shopping it in La. Hey I got hired at the daily show came out to New York workshop at more. I've been took it to off. Broadway did a run did a second run. I wanted to be like diamond tight Then took it did a tour around the country. Do you have any idea director comedians. Like hang together. Yeah Yeah Oh yeah so I have like a core group of like people that I've you know you can see on the credits like head writer that I work with a lot of creative consultants that I run stuff. I'm not afraid of being like. Hey Man is this whack is. This is as good as as bad counsel. Just like iron sharpens. WHO's the weird part of that crew like? Who's like your buddy from six right right? Anybody like A. Is there any like left. No this is the left field. One is a lot of the stuff we the. The daily shows left leaning one of my very good friends that I always bring in hardcore right and I go look just call me on it like argue with me like tell me what what it is. And here's the thing is like again to basically bud era but like it's funny speech in a Beta me right so it's like poke holes in my the argument and then county you tied counter. Yeah I only prefer when I'm going into rooms where people think. Television commercials are a good idea. Oh yeah that's great really. Yeah it's my favorite spot. Yes because the market you have to be historically correct like like you can't like you can't get higher known supply like I think that's super smart right. I'm fascinated by that. Oh thanks man. Yeah you should have another another. Righty you should get another one. Oh I have a crew for more people that are like yeah exactly man. It's yeah it's it's tough to find people that are that good and funny. I guess you can't be a troll. If you you come into circle you gotta be nice with. So what else can I break out the I. When did he feel like Oh shit? This was when John. Oh my first career my career. Mike Mike's what was like the first like so many like maybe the maybe grown up in Davis I would drive the San Francisco. San Francisco had a big comedy. Competition called wild wild ninety nine. That's their hot ninety seven best comic extending right in the city. The best comic in the city gets to open for comedy jam. which is our summer jam cat? Williams Gabriel Iglesias. So so I one that you did. Yeah that was an roll up in a way so for me. I'm definitely willing this shit. No no no. So I'm driving. The Ninety one Nissan Nissan Stanza from our house white with Silver Trophy from Davis to San Francisco punchline. There's fourteen other local communities listening to on the way up the JC blueprint okay takeover sister track takeover on repeat on Shri P. Yeah I mean I'm just like you I'll listen to the same song thousand in times so you're my best friend so literally. No no no but for me and I'm sure you feel this too to is. I love the scenarios of rocky one so I was the comedian Davis Sacramento Garbage. What about six? We're five when when he goes back. Rocky Balboa needs and say Rocky Balboa Rago moving I have no idea they are unjust Dorado which is fucking amazing. I'll definitely say but yeah six when he goes back to the beginning. Did you watch sex. That's his son and then they have the ESPN thing like this is what a computer generated thing would be back in the Saddle Rocky Balboa and yes I do like rocky about do you. And I love you fantasize rushing everything that you've got right now and starting you know you're insane I don't you agree with them. But but that's absolute insanity but I really because I'm married I've got audible to the studio. I mean you're crazy but you guys will all be my collateral damage. Listen the hustle albeit correct. You'll be thirty seven but ZANDER. I'll be historically correct. So yes yes so okay so my biggest thing that I'm driving you're listening. Yeah and I'm just like look I haven't. It's all upside outside everybody's shitting on me like it's it's like I've ever again. So it's just me my fucking argument to when everybody's Shits on me that they knew that I was full of Shit. And then they get to rise like a Phoenix again. On all ops dude. All upside is the fucking jam. You don't have upside any amount of and you're trying to see like like I was driving the other day Louis. Listen I was reading the other day. And you're fucking the building over there right upside anymore. Bro On other still is because I I'm do you want to host like the Oscar. I'm I'm a role player on the show. That's true so he still has yet to be seen want to host the Oscars. I'M NOT GONNA put my dreams out on on wax I am good for his comments on. ESPN in six years weirdly. I keep having this premonition and my opening monologue is just shitting on everybody who dissed me invaders sports home I got you really are as much as you as much as Michael Jordan. That's very Jordan. S So glad that you to it. I got to start saying it first before you set. Because that's exactly what it is with all my heart but his hall of fame speech that is and universally panned as garbage. You Love it love it gotta involve as a human being. That's not me again. Takes her great. Love your take keep going anyway. So you went so the king of San Francisco. I get to do five minutes but but that at comedy jam. Who Deals on meet the local radio deejays and they were they were just like Hanson Menagerie wins and I'm like cool perfect yes? You don't like me I'm Brown. I'm this I'm Bob Davis scraper for the K.. On every slide everything. It's great hundred percent. Someone cool I get to do five minutes so I'm happy I want but to me. That was like a testament that like you can do this. And you know was pumped you. Yeah who's the second most pumped or who is more pumped for you than you. My wife now. who was my girlfriend now? My Shit Shit. Yeah I mean my wife's the best. She was passing flyers with me and the whole thing. She was like my rider who was third most most excited there in most my mom who was most disappointed my dad because he was like fuck. This means he's going to believe he's not going to be lost boys. I'm GonNa do all that stuff. Yeah AH THERE GOES MY dream. I can't be. He's still thinks I can be something I'd go back you know. When did he flip? How's IT White House correspondent that made him lose his shit? Yeah man made me like. I'm proud of yeah. It's like he's like man. We really did a mom's sitting here in sorry like full circle sort of thing. Some some of the most powerful people in the world are there you no doubt know. Are you got it so the whole story was nobody wanted to do it. Everybody's you buddy past showing like this again. It's rocky one. So James Corden passes. Because I think I could've spoken slid in there like I would have done in a heartbeat and I'm not even a comedian. But do you like. Do you like doing political roasts fucking. I'll figure it out improperly get I'll go up there and start dropping bombs like it's Afghanistan your insanity I can do it it's unbridled. Nobody's perfect it's it's yeah. Have you ever been you were a little nervous. I get nervous awesome. Okay I get nervous. You know what it is when you have to hit delete on the our so everybody's coming up to me like the next special coming out and I'm in the gym at the seller working on the new our okay and you're fat you're flabby. The jokes aren't tight. You're not getting big applause breaks. You feel that you're huffing and you're not. You're not in shape but like Chris Rock right now. He's filming his special home. I just like laying and Barclays like he you know he's in shape eight-pack act like Ya not and I'm not talking about allergies. Yeah I'm catching. Yeah and he's he's not but comedic Leahey's zone. Yeah that's that's the sweet spot and here's the thing. The moment they hit record on that special he has to go back on the IT. That's that are only as good as your last. But that part where you're getting ready you got to love that the reset and that a lot of comics don't like it they like what am I in. Roasting this whole thing that you characters do is right right I liked the roasting shit. So you like Jeff. Ross and stuff. He does Yes Ross is one of the like thing. I was rickles one hundred percent. I mean. He's article do that. That's not my lane lane is have you done it. I mean the correspondent. Is that the when you talk about. But yeah you're right. Attention arbitrage one hundred percent people people love watching it to see you go up there and not get laughs and yet deliver the jokes folks and get groans and they laugh at home. It's Pacquiao mayweather really more politics. Yeah except that fight under delivered that five hundred. I'm trying to rumble in the jungle for politics. How `Bout Hagler hearns have you watched Hagler hearns? Can somebody pull up. Had learned. Make sure he watches them out. It's the greatest five minutes of boxing. History okay cool okay. So that's that that was then what happens and I was like I could really do it. I moved to La and then yeah and then it started manager got a manager and then from Oneida two thousand thirteen was doing my thing. Things weren't really pop in the first Major League player that gave some love between nine and thirteen. That gave you some encouragement did anybody come out of the woodwork of legendary comedian or a big time. Comedian just give you a little love and I got away all I needed. My baseline was really simple. It was just like my camera. Emory my air mattress and food. Yep I I was good you were binary yeah I was in. My wife was deserve better. But I'm like look I get to perform. I one when I get it. I want but you're talking about people. Give me a chance. Yeah little blips. Yeah so like I got to do Chelsea lately. That was a big deal. You have to sit on the panel. I got to I booked a recurring character on show in two thousand ten twenty eleven like Oh it was on a show on. ABC Family and Georgia Georgia. I'm like Oh other some non episode go to exit of that but like but like little levels up but I think the big difference maker for me was when I started doing doing my own thing and putting stuff up on Youtube sketches and then I started doing these things called the truth with Osama nitrogen basically need to camera giving my take on a particular alert topic or thing that really like got wild massive attention bigger than like being on a TV show but then the this podcast versus is planning APPs. Sure Yeah Yeah exactly. Yeah yeah heard of it but the massive level a hundred Rockefeller chain was Jon Stewart. Yeah Michael Chain leaves the daily show goes to SNL. Yes an open slot right. There's usually five to six correspondence on the show. Had seen some of my stuff. That called me in did you. Were you like in the zone when you got that call. No no no so so for me I was I was like I. I saw the news. I knew that an audition would be happening. And this is again where immigrants you have to over deliver. Always you just have to be a fourteen eighteen out of ten so the the audition was hey just put yourself on tape and do the script do this Jason Jones Chap like fuck that I shot my own fueled piece whole field case talking about Meena suit interviewing people the whole. How'd you look in the good good the concept of seal piece and then also? I did my audition but I shot it on a green screen and I edited in such a way that it looked like John was interviewing me and that was just like yeah let fourteen fifteen sixteen dude. I mean tally already like to me like to me. I was like like put everybody's video link against mine when you hit play on that thing. That's like some comedy gangster Shit Dude when I see people like when I see people that that like randomly message Gary Oh nice. I'm this I'm that I go look man. You better pull out your iphone your nice video editing you better go. Hey play and that shit better play and it better be ridiculous incredible or yeah you know like people who talked to talk shit like that. It's like you gotta be able to back it up. She was it calls could get some calls facebook putting your phone numbers numbers when do some calls on but that was like life change and then got one thousand two thousand fourteen. That's when I moved out here that changed my life. It's cool man changing. Yeah you're going to be a humongous humongous player. You're frameworks right now. Just just a matter of time. Yeah seriously there's like so weird like that so funny it. It's really mindset in framework in like humility really such a fucking Strength so cool. Do you feel like you ever. Who's Dixon Dixon Alvin? Yeah who this. This is Gary Vena Chuck in the Ass Gary v show with Hassan. Oh Gary what life is good. Hey man how are you. Hey what's what's happening. What's going on? I'M GONNA go talking Shit I can. You know it's all good. It's all good. You GotTA question. We're we're here. We're not going to worry about that. I don't do uh-huh Dixit Dixit real quick. What did you think was going to happen when you put your phone number into facebook? I just start along. Llandough no comment section I. I couldn't find my number of an open it on my laptop that was above protected again. But I don't know my bumping each per minute how well do you have some sort of device on you right now. I I can't figure it out I I don't know if today or a night I'm seeing a call from the for. Do you have a question no question you know both of you right now in the combination is like the legend. Speaking at the time like very smart. I'm I'm doing okay. Don't worry I'll let unlike comedy where there's no down saen already told us. No the downside or like no. You've got to be tough for. There's a lot of growing up Dixit Dixit. We're we're unstopped. We're very intels. We want long awkward pauses to build suspense. So you take your time fire with your question. Yeah so the thing is. I'm an aspiring comedian. I'm reading right now and that's going to happen and and I just need it because you know someday. Higher down the line down the line. I want my own metric stadiums and stadium. You WanNa let you want netflix stadium. Tours like Kevin Hart Shit Right Raising Gary my question for you. You know. I've been associated with this. You you know Best Network Marketing Company in the world and I want to be a future financial and feed them in the next five years right around four hour. I WANNA be financial three by thirty. I don't walk for the rest of my life knowing Hassan's GonNa Answer your other question. I'm going to tell you. Do not make up arbitrary numbers financial freedom. The quickest way to not be financially free by thirty is by deciding right now that you want to be financially free by thirty point okay. What you need to do is look every day as a day? A of like like Dixit. Don't buy a dumb coffee for four dollars and thirteen cents tomorrow understood. Good Okay Yeah. So you're quite. You want to Netflix. When you WANNA do stadium to all right so I think the bottom line is you wanting to be financially free by thirty? He's do look and and how many people do stadiums at this point. Kevin Hart two three. Yeah right yeah. So it's do you understand that you're asking obnoxiousness by by doing stadium. No you can you. Can you gotta be that by the way. I don't think it's impossible. Yeah I do think it's so so yeah you got it you gotta get up on stage as much as possible. You have to be the best in your city state country. You got to be one of the best comedians in the world so you got to devote your life getting up every night right. Oh yeah I I've been. I've been writing random thoughts meeting people and creating situations situations situations. You've been creating getting on stage every night. Man I've just been saved a match on three times. I have been in the last few months and months on time. So you know if they're gonNA give me to go on the streets so yeah man you just do everything you can. You gotta get up on stage every night and you gotta do multiple multiple sets tonight so that. That's it and record your sats. Listen to your sats make notes in every single day you gotTa Monitor that and you gotTa make sure you you right and were verbally record your thoughts in workshop your material and build your set and make it really really tight Dixon are you. How's it felt on Stage two three times you've been on? I didn't get you to get to new. Of course how. How did it feel the first three times how to go? Did it go. Well you know a lot of credit so many people stay at zero some you got me fired up right now that you've done it three times and you've only been in the US for three months like you've got a little excited right now. I was just curious. How did it go? It was amazing because I went on stage in front of one thousand people. And you know I have a knack. Nakamura I can come up with the on the spot. You know Topics and under fought. Stand the topic which people laugh at the fourth area. So you know at all at all this is from entrepeneurship and stand up comedy conviction I want you to email me at Gerry Intermedia and when you perform in New York I'm coming I'm coming. Where are you now? How are we gonNA can be rendered as you? Okay fantastic you gary. A banner media semi okay. Sure sure you can save my apartment ninety. Okay I'M GONNA come to your amendment to stay there tyler. Bouck all right takes a thank you when you call it the New York. They're cool new. Yeah he's funny funny. Do you do a lot of like you. Basically do make a wish stuff for your fans. I like that stuff. Yeah do you know why I wrote a piece called the Ricky Henderson. Ricky Henderson winked at me once. I think winked the general vicinity of where I was sitting. That was one thousand nine hundred eighty s cool. They give out soon. Yeah ever get took a Selfie with me. Yeah I'd still be looking at right now. Lebron when he does the thing with the kids the broad scope reverse Jordan. What do you mean Jordan's the worst human human okay cool? Let's Ah I looked for many angle to this Roy Jordan. It's really amazing. What Nick? Hello this is Gary Dino and you're on with Osama notch what's up Gary with vinny what's up y'all a Nico need like Al Franken Nick in Tech. I love it I think you. When are we having dinner in Queens earlier in this podcast? Cast Tyler was commended for his amazingness. Please shit on Tyler right now for all of us. Yeah listen we need you you you both opening to come to queen to your head and then we have to show your supposed to do with it. I swear my life we've got now like I've got like six days in New York before the right can we. Can we go lately. Can we start eating at eleven pm. Not at the Best Bach- the best spot. We would have to eat like around eight but I got some other spots. If you still want to do that I just wanted to go alex bellies. Make up the best with Gary. He's such a millennial right. Now he's like I want the best one. I I tell you the three and a half stars places on Yup. I'll tell you that much. The music man going great man are you. You GotTa do a song a day. Otherwise it doesn't cow man. I'm doing a joke day. What's your what's going through while you're gonNA WANNA make by the way? Did you see any fucking people followed you after I gave you love on you so you brought that checkup role. I'm not going to do by the way your stuff is so fire like obviously I've been listening to what I've been flying a lot lately and just really like the kites programs like Cleopatra. I listened to thirty nine times in a row on thirty nine times in a row. Thirty how many times times you listen to it in a row. I listened to once by accident once time probably did I not I was like hey. How'd you get the sample on this? Bollywood sample like I actually listened and was like. Yeah but I didn't go thirty nine Gary but that's crazy Gary's actually a very good dude. This is actually very nice. person the area holding it down. I listen before the end of the year. I need to go eat this food. We need to document and I'm GONNA steal all of Rancho followings. I'm GONNA take a picture of the food go cliche instead. I promise. I've never taken a food fucking photo on when we go. I'm going to do for fucking real. The lighting is going to be on point. It's coming and I'm gonNA write some copy that's GonNa make people's fucking head explode portrait. Listen Queens the first place. And he would've music are you fucking hustling where you kind of like bullshitting and calling in random fucking. PODCAST calling in shows no man. I'm doing what I can. I know what I'm talking and we just already talked about some region call by call because I wanted to ask us something about me. I called about job because I'm very inspired by man that's cool. It gets like for example. Like my question. Is You know. Music and comedy handed hand and my mic Chapelle has been very successful accessible that integration and stuff like that. How do you guys feel about like the intersection between comedy music? Am I do think we should start seeing more towards and shoulder from both sides of the car and I know the guy before was sucked up doing stadiums. In you know I was a comedian is like it's very few and far between but I don't know I feel like if you taking music music comedy and doing that. Say One quick thing so go you do a tour with Dixit. I will go to every show in every city all right so I this is. This is my take on it. I think that musicians and Comedians comedians are very like Simpatico in terms of the way we think the way we work the way we operate. In the way we write and produce stuff that being said music shows and comedy shows have to be set up very differently like mindset of the consumer it's just the mindset of the audience. I've been asked to perform to open up before a hip hop show. Oh and I'm like I'm not GonNa do that because Peop- you'll come out there and people are like bring Nas out. I don't want to talk about politics and so to me. The only person who's executed flawlessly and this is just a testament to how great he is as a comedian is chapel. chapelle is such a savant at having a comedy audience go to music not the other way around so a comedy already low key and they're in a good sort of mellow vibe to then go all right chance the rapper's coming out alright. Lauryn Hill's coming out. Okay lowlands coming out you can you can go. You can ramp up. You cannot take hip hop show and rampant down to my musings on political told America that that's just what it is but but like I'm clearly going homeys youtube or going on tour. That's real right Romanija. No we gotta we gotTa Collab- On something. I think I just think that. Like the way we vibe creatively is a is a thing where the to actually think a place where comedians and musicians can do you think coexist real big. I think he has the potential to be as big as he wants to be of the answer. Do you think you're going to get really big God detention to be as big as I want it. It was kind of a a man like super pragmatic is is you got to maximize your talent love. How much do you have in your acl? You know what I mean like John just push it to Sab. That's one thing. I think one thing that I really really agree. With the fact that adds foreigners of immigrants we got. We've got to be five times everything you just. We just tapped just become has to be like insanely awesome just to be compared to go to where the puck honestly. I'm GonNa jump in your on this one I think that's the rush I think it's the right right inset to have yes he has the right mindset have but I think the market is the market is the market so I what what I love about. What both of you do is there are gatekeepers in one thousand nine hundred eighty two right? Then I'll fuck these brown guys. I'm not even GonNa put them arrive. You went to fucking youtube right. We want him to fuck and put out. Music is spotify. Doesn't give a fuck if you're white and fat from Oklahoma or or you know some guy it's it's an insurance using time to be alive via the end. Yeah that's just oh you know what we need to do. If around at eleven you need to come to a comedy show and then a neat comes come out. And then we'll the fact you. Oh you're going to studios in the middle of the night you should comedy is operating at the same time you should come to a comedy show. Chani comes with me and Dixit. Can we can do comedy the Benghazi food. All of that at the same time was to be an addict face and get some time. You've really just Bavin. Babbit December twelfth and the Chew Up. Bring bring my twin cousins later. I think that kid is so talented. I'm dying for like you know what's fun about music and and maybe it's a maybe the same thing they actually. It's like the keynote. Yeah what's amazing about doing some sort of art or two people people is the high of this could be the night everything changes yeah. I love the literally tonight. He could go into studio produce and make Kosong put it on soundcloud and it might be the moment. I'm fascinated by that. There was one of your videos that you put up on Youtube. That was is better than it was. It was the episode where I went to the supermarket and tasted a bunch of. Oh actually how the fuck did I not tell you this. Talk about a real humble brag some doing fucking wind laboratory. bTV in two thousand seventeen. Excuse me one thousand nine hundred thousand seven okay. I do an episode where I taste a bunch of weird food with wine like twizzlers and dirt and all the stuff breath Conan O'Brien's people see it and invite me to be on Conan right now. This is youtube. Two thousand seven. Yeah so like the Internet had not crossed like like Tila Tequila and Dane Cook. Tuck in your world right. A couple people from my space had done something right Perez Hilton. There's three people on from the Internet mainstream. So I get on Conan like this thing saying I saw that I saw. You did good right really. You're the jets spit buck. What was crazy about that as you may know? You probably know this some people. Don't I've done a lot of TV stuff and people like to Rehearse Rehearse Ellen rehearsed today show though y'all rehearse he didn't like so you took advantage of that place your strength. I knew nothing I just like like. I didn't even know people were I. I never done television in my entire life. I'm in the Green Room taking pictures with my mom. We made it. It was like brain twists like the whole Internet. Like fucking dig first page weird things like everybody was like Holy Shit this right and then he wrote everybody back from from high school. I didn't get lucky. I worked every single day of my life. Dude I on we have a real concept here of you doing impressions of virus by you. You special thirty nine times in a row and I'm going to be one hundred. I know you don't watch it but can you watch my sponsor dumps. It doesn't mean a lot who's watched the special here. Don't fuck in Li- love everybody's about two. Isn't this the best seat in there. Still More to you right. I do the skit with him. It's over he looks at me and he goes. What did you do comedy? He wine thing was a skit like a character. That's so funny. Yeah because your energy was very high and you're doing a thing band that you'd Dixit was talking about one eighty five. I think my heart. I do four nine so fired up the right way to respond to that was used to play basketball out with wrist. Bands like you'd be an Oxford with response. Yeah that's how I knew you really crazy easy like you were like. Oh this is a straight up. Button up dockers span rate up shaped head. Yeah Yeah Insane Insane Person Awesome. Who's what what else are you? Consuming content wise gut. Like whether it's on Netflix. Hulu a concept I just I just watched stuff to just The to take a quick break from. I don't watch them understand movies whistle. That's almost like what does it have to do with me. She was after doing me. I got a job but if you know what I mean with the ambiance you pick up on nuances. I walked past people's cubes and I see the white headphones and I see what they're watching. You're watching. Yeah who's this Hey you reach the meal. I'm unable to attend the phone right now. But if you could please leave your name and your number go ahead go do things I can tell. Please record your message when you finish recording you may hang up or press one for more options Assan. It's Gary you really fucked up and heard Hassan's feelings all right. Let's go to Mike Mike. My here's the question or delete it. Please please leave a comment. Save or delete save delete thoughts. You're just an insane asylum. I mean I love it. You have the right amount of it. You know what I mean Dr Live. It's insanity and whatever reality walk on what about genius. I was hoping you were gonNA go genius genius. It's on a tight. wrote what about movies and things of that nature. Do you think about what all do what I'll do is I'll wait for like again like I'll be on hiatus just the way you take November off and your family's I'll be like all right I'll watch everybody's talking talking about get out I'll go watch get out everybody's stranger things all right. I'm telling you doing movies I've done movies but like how do you think about it. Going forward forward second. WHO's this so Dell Dell this Gary vader shock? You're on the ask our show Foley did. It's real amazing. Do you have a question for Hassan or me. The questions for you okay. So is Assan. Yeah Yeah we've actually met like a few years ago so no no hold on. I need this story. How did it go on Munin person? He's recall and I met him later on after the show. Did you guys take a picture was a quick thing because he was running to something had to go down. Yeah he had another show that night night he was headed out about. Maybe like because you like them so much to maybe go to that show and support him. Were you like selfish. I'm just went home and did nothing. Had to fly back a matching that from New York back home I was absolutely going to be there. Could story okay question cool. Yes so for me Gary I love I love all your said but I. I'm not trying to be an entrepreneur. I just WanNa have that hustlers mentality so when you when you talk about trying to be the the number sixteen at facebook or number over to this company. How do you go about doing that? And and how do you reverse engineer that goal. So are you talking about catching the tiger by the tail like finding a successor successor. Asako or Mark Benny off or is that where you're going for. A big goal is to be like the one of the top digital mind at a top company having understood so number one. I'm a big fan of somebody that's done it before. So there's a lot of when he lawns like Ahmadou. Did you tesla that was probably a good idea to figure out what if anything you could have brought in value to that person in that company because Ilan through pay pal all and other things showed you that he had a look. WHO's here hate the man? The myth the legend. So I think I think that love it he added Avenue and I think that I think that I would be high and I mean really high on looking at somebody. WHO's doing another Rodeo after successful one? I'm big fan number two. Do you have the same beliefs that I have around Boyce if you do finding founders that are building on top of Alexa or Google home because you believe so much in the thesis Alexa. Stop Neo so much of the thesis of that so oh I think that's important so I think there's a couple ways number one somebody who's done it before doing something new you think they're Ninja even though they built a great food company even though they're starting a t shirt company. They've been there they've done that. And people are betting against them and you jump on that number two you believe in a trend. so much crypto currency Valois something else that you jump on that number three just intuition that you were mesmerized by an individual and even other talking about selling cricket protein snacks snacks in two thousand twenty two. You just believe in what I find that it's it's you know you're talking about trying to get in touch with them and working on them or or just follow them no following them for what no I think you need to follow them and figure them out and know how they tick and what they need and then figure out if you can provide that and compound them with the narrative that you can provide that like Damn Karen and be like Hey. I'm a digital marketer. Your protein shake made out of cricket's is phenomenal. I will blow up your snapchat and I'm great with Pinterest pin fluency and I'm great on Itunes. Right yeah so like know your skill. Oh and by the way your skill might just be that you're hustler and you have great work ethic like a lot of the people in this room right now. I picked on hustle and work ethic or they hacked acted and created a viral video on Reddit. That got my attention. Then we interviewed and there's other people have gotten my attention through hacking and put you said it put out content like he put out contest great right so like that worked. But I've had other people I've met after they've hacked. The interview didn't go well. There's a million different versions. I think tenacity he and really trying to understand what that person needs at that moment. The amount of people that have gone on to build empires after being in the mailroom or bringing ringing coffee for three years is remarkably high. They have the humility to be studio mattress food because they knew what they were up to got it. So I love where you're going with this. You're ready ahead of the game that you've sniffed out self awareness that I'm not a one. I'm so happy that you've taken a hold of my thesis of being number four. Sixteen these are real things. There are so many people that have done so much happiness for them and their families on being right about this thesis. Now you've got to do two things one B right which is hard but I gave three ways to look at it number. Joe have tenacity the city to get in and and that doesn't mean spamming. The person the amount of people that are in my inbox tyler. This email number ninety seven. That's not gonNa work if the I ninety six didn't work. We're deleting you how do you value you're not gonNA sure will your way in just like I'm going to spam you to that right right. Yeah so with that that balance I guess you do is is your goal to kind of take the time to figure them out. You'll be the kind of work and then hit them a few times or should I try to kind of push myself. The person's different. There's a lot of people that are completely turn like Aj. My brother WHO's a winner is turned off by the things that I'm turned on with like I liked to NASA. So you have the beast. You have to know the person you have to know them now. That's why I get pounded so much because I say that I like it but the truth is only one is going to get through the ten thousand fifteen thousand so you have to be thoughtful. Another thing I would recommend for example. Let's say you wanted to Kasane and just wanted to work for free because you WanNa be comedian and you love his jam right where he has the next special coming out in that month or two. He's on because he wants it to be successful. That's exactly when he may need something. I've a book coming out January Thirtieth Right Priori now I am GonNa want it to be successful. This is an awfully time to hack me or if I can impress the people around him that these guys are the one hundred percent. He doesn't watch stranger things but if they do they're like have you heard of stranger things he's like. I got those weird kids. No kidding. I'm Gary Chief of Staff Right. Essentially to their chief of staff that's right. Hey here's the pitch but not Dirac his filters terrible. He's been wrong but everybody else. Yeah Yeah I already follow Tyler and Babbitt and Dirac Rock and you're on your way all right dark horses Bavin. You can go to Bhavan Avenue so we need to be friends. Let's do it. I really like it. I'm reading available. You really think you're going to be big time. You never know it all depends on how you but you do intuitively feel it like like does it. This isn't enough thirty. That's it's just a bad that I don't like the question. Okay good I'm GonNa do you intuitively I mean do you believe in myself. But I know there's variables outside of my control hundred. Yea Do you believe the variables that are outside your control. Do not happen the death of your wife. Cancer Real Shit Murray. Do you believe that it is of course right right. Do you believe that it is a foregone conclusion yes because it gave them my mind call so if I stay with it as long as Dick Gregory. Yeah Yeah Yeah I really Oh you know. What do you think that is? I'm serious right now. I want to have this conversation but the thing I don't like about that question. Here's what I don I. Fundamentally don't like about that question. Question is all of these. Things are predicated on when I get the netflix special. When I do this and then you get to do comedy the set I get to do tonight at seven twenty pm is the win dude? I'm not an engineer. I'm not a doc. I one period. I guess it being predicated on you're gonNA be really huge. You're going to be big ex. Yeah no no no yeah to me. It's just been about the work your in house money fulltime full-time as long as Beena and and my family were good. Then we're good. I totally get him so yeah so like to me putting it on those things. I want to maximize my understand so the challenges are. Can I turn around my next again within three years. Can I do it within a year and a half and have a good data stuff. I don't want to own the jets. I want to try to. Yeah there you go I get it. Yeah Yeah I get so much. Yeah but I will glide. If I didn't say it feels weird to know how this going to play out outside of a like a real tragedy. I'm fascinated by that. I'm not I'm not unaware like I'd be full of Shit fighting. Say Holy Fuck Dude. I'm literally going to be much bigger than oprah like like like. I just know that truth but I also know tomorrow I could get hit by a bus or rocket loses right now and it could make me very upset. I never recover. Yes hello US shabby well. Yes this is show you. Well she'll be doing. I like the fact that you have Lebron James Cover photo on your facebook. But is it intriguing intriguing to you as much to me. That it's the Miami Heat Lebron James for Miami or had a special moment not change your facebook cover in seven years. Tell the truth truth that that's my role model. What is as soon as you went to me? I been there and I haven't changed it. That's my all time so inspiration. So where the I live in Houston Texas you need to be rockettes. Fan Bro. Fuck that I am. I remember walking span. I love the rockets but Lebron's masterclass forgot J. Yeah like yeah but but Houston versus the cavs in the finals. Who are you rooting for details? Please tell lying the devil Houston versus the caps of the final this year who we rooting for. Tell the truth I. I love the rocket up on him. By the way the call either way by the way to settle in for Jerry that you need the host the presidential debates. I do what you just did there. Lester Holt none of those guys. Did the holding the feet to the fire of listen man. You're from Houston you gotta you know what's crazy about this. After I do think I would crush that level of conviction of getting around the bush. HANG UP AW next candidate or he calls on fuck. Asahi went to voicemail at least the answer truthfully. Let's go go back to him. I wanted to sign forever. Listen to that voice mail. I'm actually curious what we have to call on real quick. Because I'm just curious why you didn't pick up but let's go back to that again very showy. Yeah we'RE GONNA go back to your disappointed. I knew it was by the way news. Lebron was the cavs. Go there optimistic. I love you for wanting it to be the the rocket. Yeah I knew it was you too you better now. We decided to not enough to pick and stick. You can't be like I know. A lot of guys like in the bandwagon dubs dubs fans like you got to not do that. She'll be do you find that you use Lebron James to instill some self esteem like this is my big thesis. I believe a lot of kids. In America Patriotair Take Patriots and the Golden State Warrior fans. Because they need to feel that winning mentality. Do you feel when you were young. As all of us with the insecurities you gravitated towards the easy win of the Miami Heat. One not one hundred percent because we lost against Dallas. I lebrons best. It's gone and I did not care. He still handed me. What year? Were you born Adenine clutch city. Ninety three take your wrong. Wanted to just see them on Florida's number no shit on him right taught pippen and Barclay came over by the time. You're seven seven years old. You can watch Gary come on our great to get worse you were a Houston Fan when Pippen Barkley there until you realize how much of a loser pippen is right General Schanken. By that time I was in Seattle at that only the thunder fan you needed to. I can't I don't know what's happening. I kid people yes I do. I want to figure this out more than twenty three and me like all hippo ancestry and people like your negative area no no this is. He's right now. Listen listen to this. He said people what you're saying. How do you pronounce your name? Because I want to get it right. So my nickname damage showbiz shelby shelby. You were saying to sign is people rooted for Jordan and the Bulls but they weren't from Chicago correct. Exactly exactly show me just real quick and everything which by the way. I'm so fucking flattered. I just want to sit on the record. I'm so flattered by how much you know about my stuff. Thank you I mean it is your the show the only people that really for Jordan outside of Chicago are fucking losers. Oh Man Yeah I hope you fucking losers let me tell you why show but you'll love this because you're a winner and we're GonNa make you a rockets fan tonight listen to May. Here's why if you need to root for a team outside of your own city because they're winning subsidize. Your lack of winning you by definition are Laura Loser. I I mean I I I respect what you're saying James. According performance against San Antonio is a regular season offensive like beasts but when it comes to the playoffs appeared. I don't believe in broke. Most of my relatives and best friends are massively flawed. But they're fucking mine. Oh Shit that's some immigrants understand. Stand right the end. They don't get a gary. Come on I know that I think is picking stick. He thinks he was Seattle Fan. I know and that's the lawsuit. This is getting better. This is fun and I've never liked it more weight. You Never Seattle Fan. You were born in Seattle. You mentioned Sean Encamp. I wish you mentioned Gary Pain. One of the few athletes cheers my name. But what did you when you were first. A kid I mean my brother growing up with a huge MP branding writing with Jordan from that with some of that for a minute your entire of opening this show is right. He has none of his own ideas. His brother set the tone. Some glad we established Adler staff from earlier in the show keep going brother brother clearly shares your DNA because he lived in Seattle but he rooted for Jordan correct enjoyed the best collection of bronzes guy. I'm that guy that gives Jordan Lebron as my favorite I pick him not better than Jordan but personally the the FBI. Pick them older Jordan as a personal favorite jets. Because I'd like the guy. He carried a team. Lebron Lebron Rockets Fan. Though if they played in the finals you pick the cavs over the rockets right. I keep the bras legacy going respect. You the shelby. What's your question? Harake to question so so so based off of the conversation we have already tried to be aspirated. Asfour risk for so. You're going to say the same thing because it's like I'm kind of all over the place but pretty much I've of of making films like that's that's been my passion to Salisbury Young. My kind of carry that on. I was acting a lot in it before and now I'm actually producing Schofield sketches Stuff of this short. I'm I'm doing like Pakistani Indian content also giving American partners. I can kind of get both with the crowd And I know a lot of actors here so a lot of resources. Come easy to me. in order to cash them in and use them so I've been in Houston for a long time. I've been really social so I thought that happened network now with all the content. I'm creating it comes with a cost. I'm whenever I'm doing top of production on the one that's working out the money. I'm trying to keep it as as a cost effective as possible. You know just can't control that sometimes but I try about that. So so with that being said That's my main passionate love doing that. But now when it comes to like I'm I'm twenty eight right so an outlet too because you can kind of relate late Pakistani parents there on my case about getting married like every single day of my family is right so just pushing me all the sea now with my mom my amazing stuff which is all good and I understand and I'm a marketing advertisement major right so I started. I just started a marketing company. I'm working gearing it up so I have to video burs photographer. I have a social media person so that business going slow because I'm only sales guy saw so with my films I direct. I write them I I like I I asked them I produced. I do everything a cat and then all my biz inside is I'm the one that's doing all the call following up doing that in work so I'm wearing all the hazards. Nobody else is only meet you all that works. I do stuff for businesses to make a little money and then I do my passionate stuff now with my business stuff if not sparking up like as best as I wanted to just because you know the game goes so and and I can be the first suicide I'd never had the best work at growing up And that's why love Gary GotTa love of my just like I listen to your my top guy so like you telling me you're being straight up on all your post about don't care what people think. Thank grind comeback and grind. And I'm trying to do that but honestly I gave Dow and I'm just like dude. I WANNA do my films. I have all these crazy ideas when I'm driving and listen to music but then I gotTa make money somehow and then so I just picked up a part time. Sales Europe's that's another edition. So I'm just. I'm writing my stealth Dell's Lewis. Who then do ideas? Everything I put out. Everyone likes being reliable recognition in Houston so when people see me randomly come up to me. It's like hey here's a guy in the video you get a picture like you're all telling me like I love yourself so I know it's going well and that's leaving my stuff but it's just too much and I'm doing it. I I mean I mean I'm still learning in business I never owned a business. That new business on like a student to that but the quality and stuff I'm doing for the businesses appreciate doing good there to some just kind of like a guy like what do I do not getting older. I'm like man I need to. I need to grasp something but I can't use I can't remember let let me get straight so you're just you're just living life right like your first of all the fact that you took zero brats in that rant destroyed. It's like he's unbelievably funny. I'm like we're like Oh shit I wanna be funny to now because I'm hanging with him. You just destroyed it. What was the question in? The question is easy. I understand the question. There was no files. No no no. The question is the question I know the show. Don't worry I heard the question Shen. 'CAUSE I get that question every day. It's no no no it's you got to talk for nine and a half Hours hold on one second. His question was quite simple. Actually I have my voice and there's all the outside voices. How do I balance? And and you know this and we've all been through it in one version. Couple things. The reality is is this. There was a couple themes than they. Are that excited me A. I've a very very big thesis. That if you were Jordan and Lebron Fan you also highly are likely to be lazy which you admitted in there which excites the shit out of me and I think it's an interesting using insights. Show Ben I'm being serious with you. I think what's interesting about what you were talking about. Is You. Don't love the process. I'm about to fuck with everybody's heads really quick here. The reason I love people who stick with their towns teams is the journey to finally get good is so much more intoxicating than being good. I'm not joking this may sound funny. I'm really trying to help you because I want you to win. I think you need to to fall in love with the process of the grind versus the anxiousness of getting there like the celebrating is not the fun part. The process of getting there is and so when I look at your narrative that you just went through your your trying to you you want the good stuff that comes along with it. You like the Selfie that you take in Houston listen once in a while because they saw the video and your local celebrity right but the reality is you've got to fall in love with the Shit. The the people who never get get lazy sometimes are obsessed with the process of what they're up to. I never ever gotten lazy. Sometimes because I've been addicted to everything I've done on post school. I got lazy all the time in school because I hated it. I think you need to look into the insight I think you deploy triple humility like are you are. Are you trying to are going all in on film is it. Do you live at home. No I have a apartment. which wasn't the best is usually like? I mean I do have a farm. I ran moving back home but but moving out moving out with great I mean I mean it. WHO's grown Dick? You've spent money. That meant nothing and you could have used that money to not do side jobs and keep crushing your craft right like it was super great to have that party when everybody came over it was pumped to have a spot to have your girl over in but it wasn't great in the macro that's driving your life your youngest shit you feel old at twenty eight. I ripped my fucking leg off to be twenty-eight you didn't think you're going to call and get an Indian Dad did you gary straight up Ambien. Why don't marry sorry anybody? Don't listen to a word I'm saying I don't give a fuck do you. But be patient and do a product table slam was very Indian. Dad that you're moving home. That was Indian excited excited. If you're actually moving were you ranting with me now I know for sure yes. I'm going I'm going to. I'm curious I'm just doing you're GONNA add value. Got A lot of south watching us. Okay so you get two major decisions you know. This is children of immigrants. We had two major decisions who we love and what would choose to do. I'll say that again who we love I e who you marry. That's a big deal community and what you do so the quick goals or you're white sally. I'm I'm asking I'm asking because at eighteen the majority of my American friends yes. You're free to do what you're literally forced to move out of the house. So those are your I understand. Okay I understand. We are property of our fathers. I am property of nudge nudge. You you don't even do is a big fight to this. Who are marrying? And this is what I'm choosing to do. There was a fight because immigrant parents are like I own. You Fuck you talking about you're choosing I Own You can do what I want. This is my thing. Don't you're too big battles or those two battles. Don't worry about the money. Don't worry about all that stuff. You have to do those things on your own terms and you gotta Air Mattress it if you really love it. Otherwise you're a fair weather fan. That's the way it's GONNA or or actually by the way or might be like that wasn't your destiny. It wasn't really what you wanted to do anyways. But don't get into some rich that you don't WanNa do and don't and don't don't pursue engineering or wherever because they're forcing you to make all those decisions on your own terms neither better worse. Well you're twenty as well so you've been in in this post game for a little while now you trust the fuck out of your parents quite a bit already right. Well I mean the thing is like I mean it might be a stupid decision but but like one of the reasons I ha I wanted to move out and buy. It was up with my parents decision. Like I just had to do it because I knew like the pressure inside the house it was like you haven't mark. You can get a job so like it was just too much like I mean I mean my parents and my parents you know my mom's House Bob my dad it's a salesman. He's been there flex two years. He's like you know what I'm saying that that was just like okay. You better degree now. Just go to. Google may forty fifty K. You you know working at a at a job which was a available but I just like it was just stuff every day so I knew I wanted to do a business to make money if I could go help. Businesses and degree. I did which I have fun doing like I was just without them even talking about new. They're kind of like disappointed like every single day and I was just like man I just have to make the move out for for a little bit to live and I respect that I you know what you know. What the best way to solve this appointment is what is that success success right like I've offer anything? Yes but here's the funny part you're in the first quarter and you think the game's over you're like brother. You can literally winning forty two and then be told you like like like like like do not what like do not let the pressure of the twenty eighth funny year to me. Twenty seven twenty eight. I'm reading a lot of content. This twenty eight twenty twenty seven twenty nine and thirty three hundred like this kind of interesting age group where like people make this switch when turned twenty seven and things that are old when they're obnoxiously young right fascinating WanNa know where that comes from sure so eighteen you leave your independence from eighteen to thirty really right around. Thirty people are getting married inherited. So Oh you're entering that what am I doing. Yeah I get it no no so the SIMILAC landed have they manifested. I get it. This is my advice for artists artists. The thing with artists you do this the rest of your life hundred percent. That's the crazy part. Like Dick was doing comedy until he died. Yep in his his eighties. That's right that's the same filmmakers saint home entrepreneurs it's why I feel bad for athletes. I used to think it was the best. Like James Harden is going to be done at thirty six Forever I even the whole Oprah and and and KFC and like the whole story of how they made it later on it which is always inspiring for like the Pakistani appearances by the cutting. You're getting married and it's like and it's like I'm elect nestled all. Listen everything important hard. I I like you think it was fun for me like I like. It was fun for me every time my parents disagreed I lived the same life. Like it's the same game just different skin tone under like I get it but the reality is is like fuck you dad like. That's real now. I highly recommend you say dad I love you with all my heart and I know for fact fact everything coming out of your mouth is what you want for me and it's how you see it pops. You did your shit let me do mind. Let's post game this in thirty years. Then we can judge. I just think it's silly to judge in the first cooperative. Part of that last part of your sentence. I'll see you in thirty years due to every family wedding every by the away I loved that show on the other side I know you are symbol left. Pride rock listen. I'm saying like I look for. I gotTA PEOPLE I get it. It's I'm just trying to give him more importantly every not more importantly everybody like cool like honestly you either go to you either. Go to the wedding and grandma and grant aunt and great aunt are shitting on you and you either hear that and say I can't wait to stick it down your fucking throat in two thousand and two thousand nine or you say woe is me Eh this blows. I liked the first one and I think it's an interesting debate of how they're actually the same. And how you train yourself. The think is an interesting thing. That's all they're competitive person. You like it. Yes yeah I think that's fair and say but you know what have been fascinated by how much we underestimate the brain and how much we underestimate humans. I think ton DNA listen. I'm a by the way. I'm a huge however. I've been impressed now that I'm forty two. I was blind. DNA twenty nine at forty two. I'm like The people you surround yourself with like like there's a lot of Barry I maximize internal I become super fascinated by the inner circle. Your chief of staff or hanging out with fucking Lebron fans in Houston. He's GONNA fucking lose. Get guess who a fan of Sacramento. I love you know dude. They had you met him. At your thirty two thousands Weber white chocolate. We were robbed. Yes do you understand I do I. Do I tell you what you should do. I go by a Houston Rockets Jersey. I will remind you of this conversation and will change. If you come rockets fan when we hang up it will change the outcome of your life. I don't entirely agree with your family. You for sure for sure. I mean the family's not even like it's not like I have the strictest family in the world is they sure things. Yeah I believe me I get the mentality. I really believe that. I'm talking about the elephants. The elephant in the room is easy. When you're wearing your shirt yet is okay because when he went nine hundred percents wearing Mohammed Ali Hoodie? Yes there's there's a lot of interesting things to this like I I think you're taking the black and white of it but if he actually became a rockets fan right. I genuinely believe that he's like I think you're right. I also think right like it's fascinating fascinating to me that he desperately needs to become a rockets fan or his life is going to be not as good. This is incredible. Can you be rockets. Fan Bro I am. I Know I love your not do. This is the whole thing. You can't say you are the fucking rockets go to the NBA finals. Play against the cavs. And you're fucking like Yeah Kevin Love I got you I I. I'm getting what you're saying. I love to walk into your more after C. P. Three came through so please get along. I cannot wait by the way I cannot wait to play Gary Gary Biopic in white face I know the insane theories I I love by the way I love that you stick to your I wanted to win. I broke this is not a joke. I genuinely believe came rockets. Fan that his life would be better. I literally of your arguments tell me what this this is. Something Weird for me. This happened with me and health and other things like today's fascinated by this because intermittent fasting. I'm I'm just fascinated by that. I think we are completely underestimating. The capability of a human being. And we just are just doing that. I think practice. You know it's funny. This is going back back to you. Just used it like the flab repetition. I really believe this stuff. I believe the people you hang out with. I think when you keep doing things that become uncomfortable they become. Yeah this is fascinating day. I mean it. I think it's kind of weirdly. Do you want to hear something funny. I think it's practical. I think it's practical to disrupt yourself especially if you aspire to yeah. I think it's interesting what you have to like that in the eighteen to thirty yes you have to kind of being like I went to the family wedding and everyone made fun and cool. Aw I'm out. I live outside of nitric remembered one number in the Matrix. There's the scene where he's cutting the stake and he goes. You know that's not really taking I don't care tastes delicious. People who like living outside of the Matrix being like fuck that. I don't want the steak they. They just thrive off of that. They thrive going family partying. Yeah I'm the freak and that's fine but you have to be. That's why I think it's really interesting when you when you're advocating people it's harder and harder later later in life. Let me be like to let me tell you. What's interesting loosing when you add and I knew and I know you do? I think what's interesting is. I've got the benefit of the feedback in my inbox. It's been fascinating. I'm proud that some of the content. I make gives people guts to do something they've always wanted to like. I find that encouragement is incredible. Yeah like it's encouragement. I I think I think you doing you and putting out the content your existence as inspiration. People ask all the time like what is he doing the thing kind of Gary Vitas and what the Rock does it just gives you touch point to be like. I just got an a big argument with my aunt. She says I'm stupid. You go to their account like lifting right now. That's what I was supposed to be doing doing. I'm not supposed to be like in my room. Being my Chachi said this. My car last said that. Do you know you're supposed to do what scares me about immigrants. I think of it is so I'll tell you something else that I want to touch on because I want somebody to hear this one person and makes them actually do. I'm worried about how the story plays out. There are so many immigrant or tight knit family. It's used tight knit family time because I think that's a better way to go. There's so many tight. Knit families were. They are appeasing their parents. I love my parents so much. It actually hurts my feelings. It's like like I don't know how much you guys look at the public events that I promise right like when I write. I can't publicly talk about my parents without crying. Like I love my parents. So much uncovered again. I'm so worried that a lot of us are like that that we do things to appease them in the short term and then resent. Yeah Yeah. I'm scared because I rather have the short term pain of him this doing a now leading the market. Play out what we don't talk about. Go Show me all the brown kids. All the Russian kids that are sixty and eighty with their parents. I know the sixty and eighty year old relationships the broken because the six year old followed the eighty year year old and they've had thirty five years shit relationship because they didn't marry that girl right because they didn't try that thing and so I think the short short term pain of a band aid rip. Yeah versus cancer. That happens in the back. Half of every one of these people's lives is an important conversation that isn't isn't being debated enough. Yeah that's it. I'm so excited about IT I. I'm excited that I want. I want him to become a rockets fan mayhem. You're you're you really are like a school counselor. Oh I know I wish for meat for me. Look being at the daily show there was a lot of. Here's here's the thing. People were like Van Jones reach across the aisle. Yes events those people to see as the see the lighter side. I'm less interested in reaching across the aisle us of people who want to ban Muslims or bill. I'm not right I'm more concerned about. What are all those people and all those swing states? That just didn't vote that we're like got stranger. Things go into got instead of voting right. Those are the people. I'm trying to reach in Wisconsin. WHO's on a soft yet even? Yeah fuck it I got a softball game. Yeah Yeah just go come on man. One day just go. Castro vote part of the process reaching those people rather than going going over being like. Don't build a wall by. Do you watch documentaries documentaries. Did you watch the sounds. You need to this. The culture question of the day you get to ask a question of the day. What is the new? Move that you're GONNA add to your game this year. That's GonNa help you maximize your talent. I love and I never do this. But I'm going to add this will you come. I'm a rocket span. He's not you keep asking questions will keep answering your curl fan. Thanks guys for listening. Please please please share the podcast. 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