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En Tijuana Hay Rock Podcast: Playlist - Programa #35: Entrevista con Slave Club
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En Tijuana Hay Rock Podcast: Playlist - Programa #59 - Entrevista con Los Necesarios
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From Carpenter to Super Lawyer: The Story of Flint Attorney Chris Christenson
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And I I am really honored that he put his corona virus lack down face on for us because. He doesn't need his usual dapper attire. To To impress US so Chris. Chris Christianson. It's all yours man. Morning. Thanks for having me on this morning. Good, morning, hi. To know about is tell us a little bit about where you were raised and. You know all the basics of your. Resume I guess your schooling and so on. I grew up in the city flint I graduated from Flint. Southwestern hung out on the South Side Went to them, flint in worked my way through undergraduate as a originally appraiser, but then. I was a carpenter, and then I went to law school. A COOLEY and I worked my way through law school as a construction superintendent. And journeyman carpenter both so. So. You know how to Hammer Nielsen planks. Oh Yeah I used to anyway used to be a journeyman, so I was on a Union Carbide, local, one, two, three, four out of Detroit United Brotherhood, carpenters and joiners. Do you think that experience gave you a boost when you started practicing law? What you know what's interesting about that? It changed my perspective about work. Because we worked hard, we got to work at six in the morning in the summertime, and we worked until three or four noon in the blazing heat, and you just head stuff to get done. You had to get it done so. Going to school fulltime I went to school all year round to law school in order to be able to do all that. When I was working between school and work elsewhere in sixty hours a week, so when I went out on my own put fifty or sixty hours a week didn't seem that bad. I didn't have traveled time. My body wasn't beat up I. wasn't it out the elements in the freezing, cold or the blistering sound, so yeah, helped a lot of. And scary, and then you, you went to flint southwestern, high school or Academy. A bolt extra I was at the transition. That right well. Some no out there and radio land, I, also a southwestern Grad Sr. many of our compatriots in the legal system including Dunkin Beagle and Joe. Faira judges. Chris you one of the things. That's very impressive about your background. Is the fact that as a young lawyer. You got out of the gate. Just as enthusiastic as any young person I saw in my career of nearly forty years now. I I was so impressed with the fact that you got involved in a professional associations and tell us a little bit about your journey with that in and you're still involved in. A number of them. I think it's important to Kinda give give back to our profession because it is. Not just career to profession, and we are what we make it in my opinion, so if if we don't participate. Then, we'll have a profession. That's sort of Paulo. I always thought that I should participate. They know what's going on and that we I can help you I know. Do my part going forward so at a very very beginning. Started my career I started participating Jesse. County Bar Association revelers events. And then I learned about the state bar. Young lawyers start because in state by your lawyers adults, and then that just kinda developed. I stayed active. Nijinsky County Bar Association in becoming the president. I was the second youngest president in one hundred thirteen year history of the time. Only don't can be. Go was younger when he was present I found out during that year. And then I wound up getting elected as the. Chairperson section State Bar, which is the largest section oaks, individual sections of the bar back then and I've continued that I stay active with the just kind of our association on various committees and. Currently on the state bar or the commissioners for the whole state. And Ellis went. They tell us what they do because I'm sure that most people don't know what the commissioners of the State Bar. So the commissioners of the state buyer there's about forty five thousand lawyers, and about thirty two lawyers get elected to the to the commissioner so I'm one of the thirty two that got elected and what we do is we meet several times a year and we work on various different projects that have to do with the lawyers in state, because we're self regulating body, there's all kinds of things that come up that we have to be responsible for or have input on, but we also get input from the Supreme Court whenever there's GonNa. BE A legislative change. Or Court will change. They send it over to us to review and farm out to our subcommittees like the real property law section of the Criminal Law. Section. we help coordinate all goes any any response to something major like this pandemic we've we've had several calls is like this for the last two weeks where we've had to work on various issues that are basing lawyers like the new. That just came out this week. Notaries allowing be. Allowed to notarize something remotely. which has never been never been allowed before, so? I think there will be changes from this. Corona virus pandemic. Affected lot of professions including the legal profession. And that might very well be one of them because we can do it during a crisis or I can't do it all the time and. Tell me about that. I guess arguments curious to know. I'm not actively practicing law anymore. Tell me what impact this. Has had on the legal profession in Genesee County. Oh. It. It varies from. Specialty to specialty sure, but in our practice we are a small firm firms. Three of us now we used to or lawyer. There's three of us currently, and we do a lot of real estate and business litigation. We also do craigslist lot of probate estate, planning, probate, litigation, and then rick and I both do criminal fence Oh. Specialties has had different impact. Who who are your partners near? When? Line, yes! Greg Theater Line, and Rick, Worthington and Rick as a off over flint police officer who's been attorney with us for seven years now. Okay, all right so each of the areas of law I'm sorry. I kind of interrupted you because we were using names and nobody knows those people that are at least nobody we need. Identify them as long. Chris. In terms of your practice. How has it impacted your your particular practice area? Well it's been. It's been twofold the the real estate transactions. Actual real estate agents are have been told that they are not considered central, so they're not showing houses for sale or buying selling houses right now, but title companies work considered central so title companies are open, so it's created this weird. There is to sell. We're not reviewing a lot of purchase documents at the present time, I just had a big commercial transaction fall completely apart two weeks ago, because of this and the uncertainty market but on the criminal side. Interestingly enough we're doing a lap remote I just a video of zoom like we're now zoom sentencing on Tuesday. So. It was very very interesting. We set that they put the defendant in jail in one of the booths, and they had the court in actual courtroom, so that record is still and create a record, and then I was at my office, doing it from my office. So. If, you can imagine there's a difficulty there because we had to tell the defendant. If the defendant WANNA speak to me directly in private which they have a right to do. The judge and the prosecutor would have had to get off the call. The deputy would had to have. Muted what they could here so that I could talk to my client directly them. It would have to notify the court to give back on the call. That was the only way to do it if we had to do. Luckily, we didn't have to do that in case but. A lot of issues to work through Yeah Dad, and of course The courts are closed, I understand. For the most part district is almost completely. Shut down. I think other than they're doing. Some PCC's because people a bright, so you got arrested over the weekend for something. you know you have the right to have your bail set? You've got the right to have your vote. PCC Within the first twenty, twenty one or within seven thing on the PCC in twenty one days. For example, there's good cause did not have the exam right now. So. Yeah, so right now. It's a big slowdown which isn't so bad for a lawyer to catch up right. Or do we have we been doing a lot of paperwork from so? Good for you know what about new clients and you meet new clients through through traditional methods are. and. We're not meeting. Any new clients We're we're. We're talking to on the phone. We are doing phone interviews with people We have been retained by some new clients, but it's been we've never met. We have not physically met them. we're discouraging any. We're not actually open funny face to face contact, so it's all. Video or phone. season, so let's go back in time based on a few other things. One of the things that I best remember you from. Is. UN I. Argue Case In. Your escape canals. Two Thousand! I believe it was. and. There was a group of lawyers for Genesee County Bar, association. Who decided to make that? Their party and they went down to Washington. And got sworn in before this. The Supreme Court of the United States. And watched and watched the argue this case which is quite surprised by Tell us about that, and how then came about? Well interestingly enough I. didn't back then I just started out and I didn't know any of those people so I didn't sworn in then I didn't go with any group I went on my own dime, my wife and I at the time we we went. We set up our own plans. We went and watched the we'd run into people from the bar and got to know a few people from that. If I remember, there was a meeting at the hotel. The dunk four the argument, but my wife and I just went to watch because it was our prosecutor argument from the United States Supreme Court whose huge and so something that was interesting and we went to go. Check it out since then I've been back at foreign in later with the Bar Association and then I got to go back again and make the motion that people sworn in from the Supreme Court, so I've been back there three times it's been. It's been very good experience. Well it was a little scary experience for me I'm sure it was not fun watching It was was doing that some one day I'll do a podcast on that adventure of. Because as as you're you're you know? You you don't appear in front of the Supreme Court very often or is ever most lawyers don't. But I remember Phil Elliott walking down the fall of the Great Hall of Statue where the Supreme Court, after I got through security, and he's coming in the opposite direction with his wife. And I couldn't believe he's walking down. The Hall Supreme Court I was shocked. What are you doing here? I come to watch. S A young lawyer. A new lawyer I love that Guy Elliott Judge Circuit judge because in his in his office inside his office. He had the SOFA in above SOPA. He had this huge a party. Of My favorite baseball player alkaline lie grew up to. Absolutely Adore recipes yes, he passed away this past week And so I'm anybody. That's got a pitcher Ralphie line like that and. You can't be so bad, but he was a little on the grumpy side. and. Harvard educated man, but he would scare the Bejesus out of me. And I was at a I was on the temperament at the time where. If you told me I can't do. Something I'm going to figure out I can. So, so he loved that he loved. The challenge of an in was such a brilliant legal mind. He would set up legal arguments. And then tell you don't like it. Go appeal at which is exactly what he wanted. You wanted that all along. He wanted he knew what the law was I remember. One time interesting were in the corona viral Sierra. I had a case. People versus Samuel. Collins you can look it up. And Sandy wanted me to travel to Camp Bear which is the furthest point away and the key monop- peninsula. Way Up there by Houghton. Hancock. To see him based on race in prison and a case where he was stealing cars right, you know. They parked him off the assembly line. He was stealing. About as fast as they could make them. And he got convicted was doing the appeal. And he insisted that I drive all the way to campaign so I thought before I drive that far five hundred miles I'm GonNa. Go see this judge. Make sure I'm going to get paid and make sure it's okay. And he said you can't go well. The, You know the there's rules of professional conduct in Michigan which are established By the Supreme Court that required a face to face interview. and. Sisal or my supposed to do breach the ethics and get bow practiced. He says appeal me. So having Phil Elliott sitting behind you scarier than the guy sitting in front of me to be. Because I knew that he was like one of those law school professors where? The coach had coaches in. My life is played sports. That I just hated at the moment that I didn't realize until you know, it was over that he continue to win championships and enlarge part with the help of a lot of other people. He helped me win. That case not saying a word just sitting back there and tell me the mine, my English and quit talking so much. Exactly so. In any event was interesting, that was an interesting case for another. Maybe I'll let you Beckford Abba chat about that. But Chris you. In your personal life of. Ammunition your personal. Goal Party at personal goals. Should Hafer some fear disclosure here? Chris, actually until he reminded me this morning. Got His great starting to Genesee County, prosecutor's office says an intern tells a little bit about that experience. That was Austin My. Law School I got to do an internship program and I decided to go ask if I could do it at the prosecutor's office and I got interviewed by stamos. who was a awesome trial attorney for the prosecutor's Office back then. And He interviewed me. Asked me about you know why I wanNA to do my internship there, and if I want to a prosecutor and I told him no, I wasn't that I really wanted to ask you to, but WANNA see how it works from the inside of interested about learning about luck, and he said son. That's the wrong answer stem. Somebody asks you why you want to be here. You tell them that you ought to be across. And he started laughing, he said I'm just kidding. He's go ahead and we'll take you. You can even do your internship with us. And so I realized in that you know sometimes, that's forthrightness needs to be tempered a little bit, but it was pretty funny. He'd been assigned the over to the drug unit and back then in the drug unit John. Green was our head, and then we had Janet McLaren Twenty Thomas. Chefs gain a bunch of others. Phillips that are still around all the time I still work with, and it was a great experience learned from those guys. I got to do under that court rule I can't remember escapes me right now, but under court will. Are Allowed to do plummer exactly do small things as long as they're supervised so I got to actually do Clinton exams on drug cases before I even graduated and was tremendous learning experience up. That's great. I've had some young people who? Took on that. Too gone that the job and they didn't want to leave at one one young guy. He actually tried a criminal sexual assault first degree case in front of a jury. In probate court I was. I was so upset. My heard about it. Because of such serious charge, lifeless fence and the kid want it. He actually wanted. You didn't want to go back in more. Winston anybody else on first day practice. Let's switch gears for a second. You have had A. a longtime dream of serving on the bench. How did that we're? We're to being a judge where we're. Did that. Start once that. You know I think it was probably I'm sure law school I just thought about, but. As I've been in practice I've been in practice for twenty years so as been practice. It's picked up steam I I've had opportunity with the kind of work that I do practice all around the state. I even had a jury trial in middle February the up and I've had the opportunity to ski. Really really great judges, and also seeing jug as thought could maybe do a little better job, and and so as you sit back, and you learn from all of them. You know things that you can do better and things that you hadn't thought of that. They did great. And you think well. You know what I have. a very balanced personality I don't get too high. Don't get too low. And I, think fairness is out is a guiding principle. All the time and I think that's what we kinda. Need more on the benches. You know fewer Adamo. I don't know the best way to fly to say, but you want somebody who's GonNa, be fair and impartial. That's the entire goal of the job, and so I just think that I would be good at that, so yeah, and now you. You ran for judge A few years ago, I don't remember what year that was thousand eighteen news. What did you learn from that race? Well that was an interesting race. Because there were two open seats and have had not been to open seats in our county in years and years and years, so that was a lot of work. We worked very very hard and our side. We made a conscious effort to be extremely clean. We didn't we didn't gauge in any of the negativity? That's just not my my personality I guess so. We didn't do any of that and I thought it went fairly well. We we missed the seat by three percent. I came in third place. There was two seats and I was right behind the two winners by three percent. So who were the winners that year? Elizabeth Kelly and brand account, and they're both doing great. They're both doing really well, so that worked out well for them, but it's difficult to come that close. So that's why I'm trying again. There's one open seat right now. judge delays retiring at English here. Will. Let me Let me give you a little tip of tip off. History of Genesee County. one of my favorite judges who have served on the bench. One of which is Duncan Beetle. WHO's a third generation attorney? His. Grandfather was prosecutor Genesee County. He Ran way back in Way Back in the nineties. Eighties and might Makara. West. His opponent any. Narrowly lost Mike. I and then and then as a consequence he you know. People Love Dunkin Vigo with all his. Attorney actively in our community, but he also well. He got appointed a eventually by governor Angler. And then I started my practice with Kenneth Zeal who had tried to become a judge? An election and lost Jewish bulletin, Judge Gorton very narrowly. way back in nineteen, eighty, one, eighty, eighty or eighty one. And then was appointed judge by. Governor, Blanchard so. It's a good experience running for judge, isn't it? It's a lot of work though. I thought might career like you. I've traveled I've had the opportunity after I retired from Oscars office to travel all over the state. And I to my way across the bridge. And I would just say this that. As as we traveled around, we begin to see. We begin to see the different systems and then I've always loved flint because it was a small bar, people worked with one another to solve people's problems And and so I I believe that the best judges I've seen those that have actually had to go out Meka. People campaign hard get to know them. And then serve them in in a capacity where you've been chosen, you have the most credibility and have the best understanding of any Any judge not not to distract from those center pick by Governor but if you have to go out and earn it, you have a special appreciation for that seat in and who gets you there? The the public, your servants of of the people so now you're thinking about running for judge. Again was my little editorial advice to you. I am running extra. I made an announcement in February unsolicited that on which senior. You're running for the rent for feely correct. All Right? We'll talk a little bit about how that's going for you. Will we We announced in February. We got very organized. We sell a lot of our organization from last last race. then we went out and got all of our petition signed the to have a minimum of thousand partitions in a maximum two thousand, so turned in all two thousand signatures back on March fifth, and we start focusing on the next phase, which would been door to door meeting with the public and fundraisers, but this corona nothing has shut both of those things down There's no way that we could go door-to-door. Obviously, it's not even allowed, but we just wouldn't wouldn't be healthy right now to go door to door and then at the same time. We can't hold any events, so it's. We've been getting. We've been focusing on getting more organized for when things finally do open up. It's a holding pattern right now. So, are you switching your strategy a little bit to be more engaged with social media and Communicating with the public that way. If? We are looking into all of that right now. The best. freaking right now. In terms of your activity within the Bar Association and I WANNA. Tell you that. I've not seen a young person come along in my career of the had the zeal and. Charisma to to be able to. Maintain a busy practice like you have and then. Engage the lawyers here. Well liked by the lawyers, obviously held a high positions within the Bar Association of but the one that I think was was really special. Purview is when you got involved the lawyers of Michigan. Organization which was a tallest. What that is and how it relates to the Bar Association? Young Lawyers Section state buyers, the largest sexual state bar so I started participating momentum. And I was there for about a year a half or so to, and then I got elected as chairperson. Part, why elected is that? Every year? We do a program. We are all encouraged to do a program in our area. Whatever our was and the program I did was called Jerry And at the idea from Texas, but I modified it, and so, what what we did was and Tony. Vance volunteer. Who else help back then, but so what we did was we invited from various schools. Come Down Sonic Temple. They could tour Sonic Temple tour. The District Court in the circuit court. We broke broken into groups and then we had them watch a video. What happened for prosecutors and half the jury and half were the other third third third. Defense and they watch it and they had make up. Their own verdicts were not allowed to talk about it at the each the video because we broke into groups. And then we have lunch at Masonic, and in the head to talk about they'd give us their verdicts, and we had talked about it, and it was amazing. The verdicts were not the saint in so we want to national awards for that actually. And then the next year I was elected as the chair. We did that for about four years, but when I aged out. Nobody picked it up to continue the program. You that too old to be a young lawyer. Yeah, you'd have to be. Under thirty, six or less than five years in practice, so we'll Chris, we got about five minutes left here I'd like to ask you some questions. This shows about About a flint area, not in our community, and that's writ large. He will not just the city, but. what is it about flint? You're born and bred educated in the public school effort to ask where he went to college. What is it about our city that. that you think has helped you in your career. And in your professional endeavors. A. What is it about this? Displace that in light of all the problems is created such a amok of success. You know what I think. Honestly, it's this city if you if you're from here. And you've come up through the city. You cannot help but have. The sense of resilience that the city itself has. This city has seen soulmate trials and tribulations forever for years. Growing up in the seventies, eighties and nineties now there's just right the way up to the two water questions, so this city always finds a way to survive, and that resilience I think translates to anybody and everybody who's come through here. You just feel it so in regular work and what I do. There's resilience that you know you just work hard. You're going to get through whatever it is that we're faced. Just try your best. Utilized like right now at loved the mural project. About the downtown are be resurgent in the last eight or nine years, but but last year that mural project just caught fire, and that thing is amazing, or if you've. Drive by. Check him out. Very very virtual project. whose lung you'll have to put me in touch with the people that are doing I'd love to interview them. Rose boy eat Charles Blakey. I don't Oh Yeah I. Don't know what his role list, but he definitely has something to do with it, but he has a lot of good information, but if you Google it, you'll find details. Might. Last Labor Day, my wife and I my daughter, we drove around for three hours, and at the time I think it was only sixty murals. I think they're close to a hundred meals now. We took three hours and drove all around the city. Checking out. The murals in the artwork is faint. It's beyond fantastic. There's some really impressive things out there right now. We'll send some pictures to meow some law and our and our habits on I. Will Chris It's great to have you with me I. Really appreciate you taking the time of. On this Saturday of. And I, wish you the best in your endeavors as she run for judge, and as you continue to serve on the state of Michigan and activities with the state are It's been Really For me, you know. I moved long retired from from law pretty much. But it's great to see the tradition of that represent. In Flint and you represent the best of my view. So congratulations and I. Wish you again the best of luck. I appreciate it, thanks. Okay Goodbye Odyssey's author Bush and Chris. Chris Christianson attorney from Flint Michigan. And this is radio. Free Flint and we have a message for everybody listens to this, and that is staying home for awhile. Thri be safe. Thank you bye-bye.
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So a lot of people have been voting by mail, which means that their votes are not going to be counted until a few days after election. This is chaotic enough on its own. But. Then you add to it a president who's been regularly questioning the integrity of voting by mail does a factor of armed right wing militias. There's a factor of a long history of voter suppression bears the threat of Ford interference. And when you add it all up, it's maybe time to talk about the threat to a free and fair election in the United States. We've alluded a bunch of times to a worse case scenario. What could that actually look like? Should we be worried? Syrup. Kenzi was on the show. She's a scholar on authoritarianism around the world. She's an author and house of the podcast gasoline nation. Got Steven Marsh he's a columnist for esquire freelance journalist and he's working on a book. I'm a possibility of a second civil war in the US. This is party in the USA, let's go. Sarah Steven welcome and thank you so much for taking the time. Thanks for joining us. Thanks for having me. Stephen I I keep hearing these stories about how people are just turning out in droves to vote early and by and large. It seems to be going pretty well, there are some long wait times, but we're being told to wait to see if these are signs of voter suppression or not. I mean that being a happy story just Should show you like how far we've fallen here where it's like, yeah. The American election appears to be following international norms. Great congratulations. Let's this is wonderful news. This is not a win to me the fact that we haven't yet seen active violence voter suppression although you know it definitely could still come on election day I mean I. Think the pageantry of the right wing militias they like drama and the drama will be on Election Day itself Sarah. Just exercise your right to vote in the US early ahead of actual election day. How did it go? It went much better than expected. There is a very long line took me about an hour to get through the process, but it was moving quickly in previous elections. I've seen all sorts of systems breaking down disenfranchisement. I did not personally witness that here in St Louis that said I am concerned more broadly with voter suppression, voter, intimidation, rigging, and so forth. But we've seen all over the country this massive unprecedented turn out. and. So that's very encouraging thing to see that level of civic engagement. Okay. So let me start by giving our listeners a heads up that this isn't quite the form that we've been used doing the show in the sense that you know we've had a reporters who've been enmeshed in the campaigns give us context for like with the candidates are doing in their strategy and that SORTA thing. But for this episode resuming out because you both spent time studying the health of Democracies I would say, and then the the health of this particular. Democracy, the United States and the sort of pressures on it for this election and one thing that differentiates this episode is that you both come with an argument and the point of view I think it's fair to say. So sorry, let me start with you. You've been warning about the authoritarian thread of Donald Trump. When you talk about it now it is not new for you've been ringing this particular Belsen Twenty Sixteen and back then a lot of people called you alarmist cut now to four years later and we see trump on. Multiple occasions suggesting that you know he might refuse to concede should he lose the election? Where do you think the US stands now I? Mean we're in a terrible place like we needed to address these problems. First of all, before trump even had the opportunity to get in. There was pretty easy to predict that he would run as a demagogue rule like a Kleptocrat and that's exactly what he did. He did the things that people who are trying to become an authoritarian leader do like pack courts and purge agencies and weaken institutions even. More so that when we get to this point, this crisis point of the election itself, the institutions that are supposed to protect us are really struggling to do so and of course, the pandemic made this infinitely more complicated and much worse I'm I'm very worried about the election I don't think of it as a day. I. Think it is election season because I think that should Joe Biden win even if it's a landslide, trump will contest the vote I think we're going to see a prolonged court manipulation court cases akin to happened. In two thousand but much less based in truth and reality even more than that case, and I do think that we're going to see violence and we're going to see trump encouraging his supporters toward that violence much as he did in June during the black lives matters protest much. He has done over his four year term. So can you grab those in your research for me you? You make a living studying authoritarian regimes are there parallels between what you studied and the trump administration? Yes. Absolutely. Though I think that what the trump administration. Is is more akin to a Mafia state to kleptocracy. Then the of Fascist dictatorships the past that most Americans associated with that word like Hitler or Stalin in the key difference, is that trump and his cohort do not care about the United States of America as a nation state they care about it as a piece of land to be stripped down and sold off parts they don't care if it remains and so this band of oligarchs plutocrats that have been backing him their goal is profit they don't care not only about democracy but. About sovereignty, and so that's what distinguishes him from a traditional dictator who usually likes to think of himself as the embodiment of the state wants to expand the state. That's not what's happening here, and when you have a situation like corona virus where we've had over two, hundred, twenty, five, thousand Americans die from it and they're saying they're not going to fight it. They're going to let this virus rage on we're not going to control the pandemic. We are going to control the fact that we get vaccines. Therapeutics and other mitigates going Gary. Because it is a contagious virus, just like the winemaking efforts to contain it. Well, we are making efforts to contain. That is the mindset they do not care how many Americans die. They don't care about the health welfare safety, national security, or sovereignty of our nation. It is a Mafia state and that is a very frightening kind of a new phenomenon other. We also see it in UK hungry. You know lots of countries are moving in this direction I. think that's such a key insight because to me all the debate that I've seen especially on the left is like these are fascists and so on and you know it's not like I'm complimenting them by saying they're not fascists Mussalini had plan for the glorification of Italy as a conquering edifice. These people want impunity, any responsibility and That's why what we see here is claps rather than you know the birth of a really strong state and that's why the crisis is different like I think a lot of our language around this is like we're trying to get back to history. We're trying to get back to what we're taught in high school will. This isn't what we were taught in high school. It's something new and you know every bit as scary, but it's not gonna be like it was I mean that's why when I talk about things like a future civil war people like well, there's not going to be you know great coats and Blue Coats and I'm like, no, it's going to be something else. But hold on a minute. Let me just push back a little bit because. I have been working some institutions. Let's say like the Supreme Court, for example, no format a minute because do you know so donald trump introduce things like say the travel ban for example and Supreme Court said no not in this format you cannot do that. We've had the Senate on occasion say we're not going to do the thing that you would like to do president trump. So I'm curious about at what point do these institutions get categorized as failing To stand up to Donald Trump's agenda versus just having a hard time with it. No, no see I think it's just a real misunderstanding here. You're saying Donald Trump has a political program ended these institutions are in resistance to it. That's just not what's happening like what's happening is that the DHS seventy percent of positions have not been hired what happens is that the institution themselves are left to rot like you can say what you like about ice and A. But one of the big problems here's no one is telling them what to do. They are abandoned without resources and utterly rudderless. This is exactly what isn't happening. It's not a tension between what Donald Trump is trying to impose and liberal order. It is a tension between government existing at all and they're being bureaucracies that run things I remember when I went down to cover the inauguration and I got invited to this Party and it was furthest guy who was like the Department of Agriculture, very low level. You know the kind of guy who's responsible for the price of wheat in twenty five. Years. The people who keep us alive in our bureaucracies and he'd taken his chair and the various pictures of the president and they were lining his room and I was like what happened and he said nobody showed up nobody showed up at the Department of Agriculture takes his job. So this is exactly what's so important understand about what's happening is that it's not like a fascist takeover it's actually just internal collapse. Yeah. I agree that you know the examples as before the objections to travel band or you know some of the moments where the Senate did oppose trump like from twenty seven. Basically, stopped at after twenty eighteen gone progressively worse. Of course, in extreme court packing, he's appointed more judges and we're unqualified judges than any president in such a short period and we're seeing that now with the Supreme Court, they absolutely don't care what laws they break whether it's a mole laments abuse of the pardon power abuse of migrants obstruction of justice being named individual one in a federal indictment. You know those are just a small. List and our institutions have been steadily failing on their own to check them. You know there's been mistakes and terrible judgment. You know for example, I think from the House Democrats they've been ineffective and weak, but we've also seen this very purposeful gutting where they leave in acting positions they leave positions blank. We see this in the State Department in the FBI and that of course benefits trump tremendously there's nobody to indict or arrest they fired. All the Russian mafia specialists we have our diplomacy in tatters, and of course, it's most evident in public health in the response to the coronavirus what's happened to formerly independent bodies like the CDC that we desperately need to give us reliable information for our own health and safety. The fact that they will let that go and that it's gone to this point is is remarkable and I think it's one of the key reasons we do see. This this surging turnout. So here's my thinking. I'd like you to start maybe draw line for me because I'm looking at the US and I'm seeing a lot of disarray. So for example, over the weekend, we learned that in Jefferson County Alabama's largest county some absentee ballots are going to be rejected, and the reason for this is that you know the county Senate this waiver giving exception to absentee ballots with medical conditions and then of course. These waivers are not going to allow you to vote. So they they changed the rules last minute, and this is just one instance that comes from like a dozen instances recently where the courts have changed the rules kind of last minute in terms of voting that to me is disarray but I don't know if it's intentional disarray of that make sense. I'm trying to sort of understand the intentional process through which the state institutions have fallen apart. Are we talking about some intentional gutting or re talking about negligence here and it's intentional? So that they could keep up the negligence that allows them to carry out criminal and crab actions that enrich themselves. The GOP has its own goal, which is basically making a one party state in which the GOP will rule permanently in the way to do that, of course, is to make sure that we don't have a preservative democracy, the voter suppression where seeing is in keeping with our long history of disenfranchisement of black voters. The county you just mentioned is forty percent black and we saw the beginning of it It's recent. Partial repeal of the Voting Rights Act in two thousand thirteen new voter ID laws disenfranchisement of voters on a massive scale in two thousand sixteen for example, in Wisconsin I. Think it was one hundred, thirty thousand voters were disenfranchised and trump won that state by about thirty thousand votes so that that's an enormous difference but anyway, my point is, yes, of course, it's intentional. It's a means of keeping power. The only thing that's new here is the corona virus where we genuinely do have chaos and confusion and a kind of individual local struggle of how do we make sure citizens can vote and if you're Republican, how do we make sure citizens don't vote because voting by males actually threatening to them it's a more reliable way of voting and so they don't get. So yeah, there's some things in there that are. Just by accident or incompetence. When the overall tenor is malice, it is purposeful suppression of Democratic voters, especially black voters and other marginalized groups. Steven when I read the stories about these decisions that have to do with absentee ballots for example, there was a federal judge who wrote a dissent in what decisions about the Tennessee absentee ballots judge wrote courts are chipping away at votes to be counted another dissenting judge. In Wisconsin wrote Good Luck and God bless Wisconsin you're going to need it isn't that the system working a little bit aren't there judges who are you know on the bench we are trying their best to sort of move towards democracy and the push pull is what makes us democratic process? Am I being too optimistic? Well, I think you're just being a bit. I don't mean to insult but a bit narcissistic. Your version of the system working is it doing what you wanted to do the deeper trends kind of ones that I I'm more interested in which are separate from horse race politics are that there is no arbiter of these decisions that the people of the United States will agree is fair. After this election, there's going to be two months of debates around these votes, right? Like you're going to be doing podcasts where it's like what happened in Wisconsin what happened Pennsylvania, it'll be cut and thrust kind of politics but the deeper problem here is that no one's GonNa believe the justification for counting the ballots are not counting the ballots because the legal system as a whole judiciary as a whole is just a collection of partisan hacks and when you have that when you have a system where the judiciary is simply political spoils, there's no framework for having a notion of. A legitimate government and they are in very, very deep real trouble because fifteen of the past nineteen justices, this cream port had been chosen by Republicans five out of the nine justices currently on the bench have been chosen by presents who did not win the popular vote. There is no way for Joe Biden to fix the Supreme Court in a way that makes it legitimate to the whole of the country. So they don't have systems in place that are going to ensure the survival of their democracy. Sarah when I hear Stephen Talk about the judiciary being up for political spoils. Was Born and grew up in Bashir Sudan. So that's what I think. Right? Is that really what we're talking about here? I don't know if I would compare it exactly to, Sudan I think a lot of these problems here are grown in the US. We've never had a full democracy and over the last forty years, we've seen this very deliberate attempt by the GOP and associated groups like the federalist society, the Coke Brothers to try to rig the judiciary to try to pack the judiciary when they could not win on a popular scaled we also have a fairly unique situation with trump's. Specifically as the president trump was tutored and mentored by Roy Cohn. The infamous lawyer who is Joe McCarthy's lawyer. He was the lawyer for the five crime families of New York he was a very influential figure in Republican politics and he would say it doesn't matter what the is. It matters who the judges and that's basically the guiding philosophy of this administration. They purposefully select these judges not to carry out the rule of law not to do anything remotely objective just to. Benefit themselves ensure their prolonged reign of power, and then there are judges who do try to fight back who are trying to do their job like Emmett Sullivan. For example, the judge in Michael. Flynn case he's been threatened the judge Paul Manafort's case has been threatened. We have a serious problem with judges and other public servants being threatened with violence or even facing that violence firsthand it. It's scary. One thing that really does make us different from a lot of other countries. Facing the same kind of endemic corruption within government is that we are a heavily armed country. You know, America's full of guns and people are willing and ready to use them, and that makes the situation distinct and more dangerous than places in. Europe. For example, where we're seeing the same kind of right wing authoritarian trends. Yeah. I mean I, remember it was stolen who said like it's not the votes that matter it's who counts the votes. Yeah. It's an interesting little overlap therapist. Right, I'm not sure about Sudan although as someone who's studied like the history of civil wars like it's not like they're no parallels right? Like obviously there's a huge financial difference and there's a huge historical and there's these deep institutions but you know countries do lose it. They absolutely lose established democracies and when they fall back into a, it's just a question of spoils political framework things spiral out of control very quickly You know it's worthwhile thinking about places like that and why they turn to violence and why that happens because the same thing absolutely could happen in the United States. So here's the thing i. Think like lots of other people have a boundless capacity for magical thinking. So that precludes me from going to the worst place. It precludes me from going to the place like imagining the worst kinds of scenarios Stephen, you've been going to that worst place you've been talking to right wing militias, what are you hearing from them about this election, but this election wealth for them it's all a fraud anyway, and like the the race war is underway about to get started and whoever is in power is just a complete fraud like for them America was lost with the fourteenth amendment. So the the idea that we're going to. Get a Biden government, and then there's going to be this restoration where there is no red. America, there is no blue America. There is only the United States of that's all gone and the other thing is I think people think about these militias as Small groups living in rural communities who are ultimately powerless I to me the far right in America is huge A. Very significant and it includes a lot of educated people I. Mean there are definitely going to be Republican members of Congress who believe in the Conspiracy Theory there's no question that that's going to happen and the other thing I think you have to remember is that whatever happens after the election, no Republican is ever going to be able to become president without explicitly talking to a racist white nationalist base that is really significant. And who has already made a deal with it so you're right. I. Do tend to go to the worst case scenario, but I actually think that's not even the worst case scenario anymore that's just a scenario that's where we're at. So let's talk about this because the AC l. e., D. who are crisis mapping project put out this report found that there are five states at high risk of seeing increased militia activity and they are Georgia Michigan Pennsylvania Wisconsin. In Oregon so there's a range of possibilities here, Sarah, the worst one being course violence. But then there's others who are guest milder like armed demonstrations and that kind of voter intimidation. These possibilities were on your mind I think long before they were on other people's minds until of course, authorities foiled this plot by a militia style group in Michigan, they were going to kidnap the governor of that state. Why do you think we don't go there as as? An institution I'm talking about the media here. Why do you think we don't cover that stuff enough I think because of this magical thinking tendency honestly I think people just don't want to consider the possibility and I also think in terms of the US media, it tends to be conglomerate it in these very wealthy mostly liberal cities like New York or San, Francisco or DC, and they're not necessarily seeing these folks out and about on a daily basis as. I do here in Missouri I think that it's actually a fairly smallish group or percentage of the United States that would engaged in armed violent activity as a result within aftermath of an election that goes to buy it or just in general but it does not take that many people to cause a huge problem and in terms of passive support for these types of actions I think that that has been growing steadily since two thousand eight and continues to grow. When these white supremacist groups and militia groups began to rise, it's been going on for at least twelve years and we've seen again the details that are supposed to monitor this in stop this being cut. So yeah I think the situation that Stephen is laying out her probable and I also strongly agree that when you think about civil war, you really have to think of a new way that that would happen because it's not going to be north versus south. It's not going to be some sort of proclaimed war with. It's going to be things like bombings, mass shootings, running down protesters, your cars on the streets it could go in a number of directions I hope it really does not go in these directions I hope that because I really truly think most Americans do not want this that we will find a way to stop this kind of violent behavior I'm not encouraged because. We are a violent country. We've had a rise in mass shootings that don't even have to do with politics over the last couple of decades. This is the direction we're headed in. All of these terrible trends are combining at once in the months to come Watkins as Stephen You wrote a piece about the collapse of civil society in America back in two thousand eighteen. Predicted a second civil war it's safe to say the response then to the peace for response. Now are different beasts. How has that been you? It is one of those things where it's like, okay. You know the militia tried to kidnap the governor of Michigan Right and it's like well yeah but it's like. You know there are tanks on the streets of Washington right there is a certain amount of people who just they just do not want to believe that this could happen to you know the country with the world's largest military. and. I think it really scares people. The thing you have to understand is that this election like the election is the part where the US Constitution and the structures of power are incredibly clear and there's really no debate around it. So that's why even though I've been reading this alarm bell for a long time, actually less worried about the specific it from the election like what worries me is a year from now two years from now, if Biden were to be elected like the right wing resistance to that would absolutely be violent. Why would they suddenly embrace the legitimate use of peaceful transfer of power? That's not the rhetoric they've been using for thirty years but so you're now. Writing a book about a second civil war and it's obviously it's not the eighteenth six. No one is talking about the night they drove down. So what distinguishes the CA- civil war for multiple instances of violence Sarah's mentioning like does that end up adding up to something bad. How would we describe the second Iraq war right? Like the United States has been running counterinsurgency strategy for twenty years. There's never been a military that has more experienced and when you read their reports on counterinsurgency strategy, the big takeaway is don't start. That's what they've learned in twenty years. You cannot win. So we're already in a situation where there's a heavy amount of insurgency in the United States I. Mean. Two thousand eighteen was the worst year I. Think they're one, hundred fifty murders but that doesn't include things like sovereign citizens but also things like Republicans. Cheering on a guy who goes to a peaceful protests and shoots people at Kentucky Representative Thomas Massie defended Kyle rittenhouse the seventeen year old accused of shooting three protesters in Kenosha. Wisconsin last week he responded. Itself Defense, he also exhibited incredible restraint. And a situational awareness he didn't empty magazine into a crowd. So you have like the the movement of this into the mainstream along with cumin along with all these conspiracy theories this is a very classic spiral. It happens in other countries. It happens in countries particularly the have a history of violence and you know what it looks like is like chaos. What it looks like is trying to stop violence because violence is the only way to get power. Just, GONNA pause it there for a second. We're GONNA take a quick break. We'll be back in just a minute. I'm Harry littman talking fences around table that brings together prominent former federal officials and special guests like Senator Amy Klobuchar Congressman. Adam Schiff Stacey Abrams David from Al Franken Congresswoman Katie Porter Ron Clain Asha, run Gaba Rick Worthington engaged in lively conversations about the political and legal issues that matter most you can find us everywhere. You get your podcasts Hi Josh Block host of. Uncover escaping nexium from CBC podcasts I pull back the curtain on the secret of self help group that experts call called and fall. Oh, one woman's heroin journey to get out. The podcast was featured in Rolling Stone magazine and named one of the best podcasts of two thousand eighteen in the Atlantic listened to uncover escaping nexium on CBC listen or wherever you get your podcasts. All right. We're back in Sarah. Let me go to you for a second here. All of this conversation we've really covered the idea of domestic voter suppression and right wing militias threats. Those are not the only threats that America's facing this election day but could undermine the results. What are the other threat I mean? There's trump simply refusing to concede assuming that Biden does win inventing a fabricated reality and then forcing that reality upon the population which functions essentially as a captive audience that describes entire presidency. So I expect him to continue to do that only. It will extend into courts it will extend into these situations you're describing with these militia groups like just to briefly return to that. One of the key differences in what's happening now is that you have the executive branch encouraging these actions you had trump doing this in June you have him tweeting out encouragement of you know liberate Michigan, and then the governor of Michigan is nearly kidnapped like that is a very distinct situation like if these groups emerge and say, you know we are going to fight on behalf of trump for a trump second term. He's not going to stop them and the real question is, will the military stop them? What choice will they make? Will they protect the American people and the constitution or will they be the lackeys of Donald Trump as so many other governmental bodies have been? That's the terrifying position that Americans find themselves in now is there's really no official to which turns you know there's no one that we can go to. If we are threatened, that's been the lives for many of us for the last four years because we don't know who's been compromised we don't. Who's complicit and we definitely don't feel like people have our backs. If there's one unifying quality to this country right now, it's that feeling of abandonment and loss and fear and people act in ways they normally wouldn't act when they are that afraid they might flock to militia groups they might engage in spiracy S. or theories that they wouldn't otherwise assume because reality itself facts itself are under direct assault by power, and all of that adds up to just a intensely frightening and disorienting situation I mean, we haven't even discussed the fact that there's no information network. That has the trust of the American people in the United States. I mean you know when I talked to these experts on civil war when this spiral starts this hyper partisan negative partisanship spiral where politics turns into spoils like I was like well, how does it stop and they're like well, usually it doesn't stop usually just goes into descend, but sometimes a traumatic national event will happen that. Will unify everyone together and they'll all pull together and pull out of it. So like an attack from outside force or something like that well, that test happened, it was called covid. This is the time when you listen to your government, right? Like if you're not gonNA listen to your government when it's going to keep you alive winner, you gonNA listen to them and it revealed that basically. There is no trust even in critical moments about anyone in authority who speaks and when you have that there's just no escape. Where's the last exit away from this descent that probably was it and they definitely just kept on going right and like they made mask wearing a hyper partisanship is issue. It's a very, very troubling de centered moment. Sarah a few days ago. This video went viral of a bunch of voters outside a polling station Philadelphia. They have to wait for a long time outside of the polling place and they were doing a dance. They were doing a little dance and it went viral on twitter. And then it turns out that it was actually an intentional coordinated act from this organization called election defenders. They're nonpartisan coalition and their job is to make sure that voters are staying safe and healthy, and they say that like actually dancing and music is a form of de escalation of tension at polling places because centers the mood on something else and you know I looked at that and I saw hope and then I saw a bunch of people were like, how could you possibly see hoping you see that like the tensions are so high you actually need this kind of intervention to bring you down. To See hope in this. I. Mean. It's people coping with a terrible terrible situation in the best way that they can, and this is a skill that Americans have developed but particularly black Americans, which is what you saw on the video have developed for hundreds and hundreds of years is disenfranchisement oppression, and then being creative about how you're going to oppose it being creative about how you're going to strengthen. Your resistance to it and make sure that people don't become. So disillusioned that they give up the chance that gaining some power back, which is really what this election is about. It's about self preservation. It's about trying to get our institutions back. So we could begin a long process of rebuilding them to keep people safe and you know I I've definitely seen that before here in Saint Louis and. I live in a majority black district. You see things like people ordering pizzas for the people waiting in line because we are used to these long lines we're USTA things not operating smoothly. I that's the one kind of advantage in the situation is because these problems are systemic and we've had them for a long time unless you're really a a privileged bubble world, you're not shocked by it and you. Have a backup plan in your head like I showed up at my polling place thinking I might be here for six or seven hours and I'm really glad I was only there for one hour and I think most people line felt the same way. So we are prepared. It's just shameful that we have to be. That's the problem. If I waited an hour in line to vote I would be apoplectic. There would be letters written to like eighteen officials the Canada privileges truly speaking I've never missed a vote, my whole life. I've never waited longer than ten minutes. Have you element I think the longest I've ever had to wait for vote here in Canada was about eight and half minutes yet. That's the longest way that I can remember and I think it speaks to distance between how we view American democracy. And the reality on the ground that like Sarah you're talking about an array of coping mechanisms not just one. But like you have a bunch of backup options, you have a plan to be there for six or seven hours. Now, what I'm curious about Sarah's like what point does it turn into voter suppression at what point do these long lines evolve into something more sinister? I. Mean it is voter suppression. It's good that we have the early voting this year like that has made a difference that is increased turn out to a large degree because when you have voting on one day and that day is a workday, it's not a federal holiday. Everybody's still has to go to work and yet somehow find time to get in line and vote that has suppressed turnout in every election of my life, and so this is kind. Of, a new thing that people even have the chance to wait in line for five hours, but any election where you cannot vote easily were accessibility is difficult where the rules are being changed as you go as we see an Alabama where you have to show ID, which can often function as a kind of a poll tax i. mean these are deliberate tactics to decrease voter turnout and make it as arduous as possible. In poorer districts especially in districts that are majority black or Latino anywhere where they're expecting people to vote for the Democrats versus the Republicans is where this happens and so yeah, it's been there my my whole life and it's been very sad in the last decade to see on a federal level and a judicial level. So many movements towards Kota Fai this because often these tactics kind of slippery. You know it's hard to sort of define like a windows voter suppression end and an inconvenience began and so forth. But something like the partial repeal of the VR A in two thousand thirteen that was US losing our voting rights and attached just absolutely terrible consequences for democracy and so I hope. Biden manages to come in or if we have a democratic Senate, this is one of the first things that they need to change. They need to fix and need to make it co defied in law they need to return the voting rights act I mean my God I say this, and then I just think about how the courts being packed right and with Amy Oni Barrett and I don't know the way out but they have to try yeah they're absolutely in a state of voter suppression right now. That that's not theoretical. That's like some prediction I mean when I see these lines of people waiting eight hours to vote I mean I think that burtle direct line like the country that needs heroes right like voting is not supposed to be a heroic activity it's supposed to be a bland bureaucratic boring thing that you have to do because you wanna be a good citizen it's not supposed to be something that requires you to dance order pizza to do like that that in itself is a sign of weakness. So we are recording this few days before the election and I'm curious about I, guess like what? All the tabs you have open what are you trying to keep your eyes on as we get closer and closer to election day? What's the thing is going to were you the most? Let's start with Sarah. Most worried about corona virus I'm most worried about the surging rates of hospitalization. The fact that so many my fellow Americans are sick and suffering we don't have a relief package we're dealing with this fundamental existential issue while all these election issues play out that said I think it's going to possibly impact voting and it will definitely impact for example, protest movements that could be launched after the election or just any kind a demonstration of any kind. One thing I've been worried about all along that actually didn't happen and it kind of surprised me is when corona virus emerged I was like, oh no, this is going to be. Their pretext. This is going to be what they use to enforce full fascism, which they hadn't before and really restrict our movement, restrict our travel, and so on. Instead, we got increased authoritarianism as we saw over the summer with the crackdown on the black lives matter protests, and we had the pandemic spreading and taking American lives. I'm a little bit worried that this post election period will be the time that trump suddenly decides to take the pandemic seriously or trump and his backers. I should say it's rarely his own idea and crackdown on American civil liberties, and this leaves us in a terrible position because on one hand we. Really do need an actual plan and we probably need to be inside we need masks mandates, and we need all these things that other normal countries are doing to try to contain the pandemic. But we know that if the government uses them that they will use them further own agenda, they will use them to oppress our freedom and rights I mean really it's a crazy thing because this is what the other side was claiming when they were out in March and April saying you know my God masks fascism and and so on and so forth like I watched that and I was like, well, masks are fine masks are. Keeping you safe masks it's just a thing that you wear on your face to prevent yourself and others from getting sick. But the fascism concern is one that I share and so I would watch those those protesters who were often astroturf and on the other side of things and encouraged by trump and I could relate to that fear. I. Could relate to their worry that the crisis would be exploited but I'm on the on the other side of things that really shows you. That is the universal American feeling. US Even said, it's the complete loss of faith in Institutions Authority and it's warranted it's warranted loss of faith so. I mean. Well it's funny because you know obviously I'm called alarmist a lot of the time even as these things unfold in front of our eyes but the people that I talked to deal with deep trends like horse race politics doesn't really matter. Vp Pick. They don't care makes absolutely no difference. These negative partisanship models predicted abide win two years ago right so those are the kinds of models that I think about. So I guess that gives me a sort of a longer perspective so. I'm not particularly worried about the that that short-term thing except there is one thing that really kind of keeps me up at night which is. It is possible where Biden would win the popular vote by about four or five percent and trump would still win the election right? And if that happens, there is an immediate legitimacy crisis of a classic kind that appears throughout history where you literally will have the majority of the country feel that they are not in a democracy one consequence of millions consequences that could happen from that. If I were the governor of New York state or if I were the governor of California, it would actually be in my interests to ignore the federal government. and. Then you get into real problems hold on I mean this happened in two thousand happened twenty sixteen right except that in that Al Gore said, this is our system it is legitimate and everyone believe it just as in Canada you know Harper won by forty percent like sheer took more votes than Trudeau in the last election but we don't feel we live in an illegitimate system. It's a question of. The perception of legitimacy right right. And if it's like four percent in trump's still wins that I think the perception among every Democrat American will be they're not ruled in a legitimate way. Then the doors of hell really are opened a what do you mean by that? What do you mean when you say the doors of how 'cause you're talking about sort of the consequences of not senior government legitimate. Well you have to remember. So are the absolute worst thing that could happen to any country right? They evolve more death they go on for longer they are totally destructive. They're pure destruction in some ways being conquered is is better in terms of suffering in in terms of the chaos like it would just feel like who are you supposed to listen to? What is the system? I had a friend come back from the Middle East a few years ago and asked him what he missed most about being in Canada I expected him say cocoa puffs or something like I couldn't get the. I was like the rule of law. It's the ultimate luxury, right like when you don't have the rule of law when. It is just simply might wins right has no say that Israel chaos and it does happen I feel like we felt for a long time that we've escaped from history and that those are long questions I don't think we've escaped at all like I think they're coming back to the forefront in a very clear way. I'm having a hard time with this because I think it's a big ask but I'm going to ask both of you to tell me something hopeful. So I'm going to start with Stephen. Alexis. Okay. So I'M GONNA give myself permission to be Corny, is that okay? I love it. Yes please. Okay. There are two things that I've hoped for one. I think that Americans are starting to wake up to the fact that they are non-functioning country that where political will is no longer expressed by the government and that their worship I said hopeful well, no, no, no because the you're talking about the waking up the waking up as. Well they worshiped constitution that is a non functioning document. They're only going to be able to get out of this by essentially re starting government by doing what we did in the eighties get yourself a new constitution that's written in plain English that people can read not some document from two centuries ago. But the other thing that that is a real cause of hope is the American people I know that sounds Corny, but this has been. For Two hundred years the most practical the most willing to change the most open to change people on the planet their politics was founded in the spirit of we're not going to obey these bizarre old symbolic codes and allegories of kings. We're GONNA, make government work for people. Even when you meet, you know lunatics in on the white power fringes like there is still that kind of spirit there and I think it's incredibly powerful I. Think. It's absolutely real as you know I. I don't have a lot of hope for the current system as it is working but there is a kind of basic hor sense to the American people that I do believe that if they found it, they could find their way out of this. Is that enough? Hope it's hoped for for creative destruction, which I suppose is help but no the opposite like building things again, they've had enough creative destruction. For a long time you know, Sarah Yeah. That's that's actually the same thing. I was. There's been collaboration like as our institutions have collapsed as terrible truths have come to light. I've seen over the last four years more and more people willing to look at those dark truths head on willing to think of creative solutions to rectify them and willing to have each other's backs, and that's been something that we've had to do since corona virus happened in its been terrible. Traumatic. People shown up for each other and I think that those stories of day to day life in America they tend to be under reported. They tend to be kind of unseen unless you live here you know they're small acts of kindness. But when you have many small acts of kindness, they really can add up to something good and when you have people willing to look out for others that they, they normally would have avoided like I definitely seen white. PEOPLE WAKING UP TO SYSTEMIC racism being willing to talk about it in a way that they weren't before being willing to talk about corruption and talk crecy, and all these other things that everyone wanted to turn a blind eye to eye to see a lot of potential. If we're not completely destroyed I, think we may build something that is better than the American I've lived in in my lifetime and I, hope I'm here to see it because I really do see. eventually getting to to place where we deal with these long simmering problems in a more aggressive way an unexpected screed against hopelessness. That's. Four hopelessness. Kalou and I think other Americans are resolute to and I guess that's you know that's the good thing it that's the of spirit of America. Well on that note, I would like to say thank you and I'm so excited that you guys were able to join me today Stephen Sarah. Thank you so much for taking the time pleasure. Thank you for having me. Sarakin zero is the author of the book hiding in plain sight, the invention of Donald Trump and the original America and host of the podcast gas lit nation Stephen. Marsh is a novelist essayist and cultural commentator. He's working on a book about the possibility of a civil war in the United States. 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The Sunday that Cried Wolf
"Hey. So Jesse we talk a lot about college on this show. Yeah. We do and what we actually mean is Avondale versity college where we go now bachelor degrees in Ministry and Theology. Yeah and that's also became buddies and we lived in the dorms. We ended the calf walk to class and the sunshine. Those great. It was great. Late night is runs we lead in worship and we also met some of our closest friends they're. Absolutely, probably one too many lifetime macaroni but honestly studied was the best ad with I started to say that this episode is sponsored by Avondale University College call to make a difference. Called to Beethoven Dale. Back to Ben Haystack with Josh and Jesse. Jesse and I'm Josh. Show all about saving the best. The rest. Think got a stroke. Okay Okay. Okay. Okay. Good. He's back. Hey speaking being back. Welcome back back oils back-back is. This is the first home recording in like. Three weeks four weeks. Yeah. Something like that. 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Just imagine going somewhere and then not doing anything like two weeks actually sitting by H. I am. I thought. I would love to do that but I don't know that I would I don I I did that when I went to Mauritius a few years ago like we we stay to resorts like sort of cheaper resort and then like a nicer resort. So that swords the ends of the of the trip and that was pretty cool I. Most of the time there was like free buffet and then like, ooh Yum it was amazing and you know the pool and Did some jet boating and some noise paddle paddle lum will they cold? A yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I like the twin the twin bites that you can get like. Yeah. You beautiful. Other sits in one side and you just paddle along and it's It's it's yeah. I. Don't know they called Paddle Light. That was co, but I only did it for like Ford ice and I was by the end of the Ford is. Ready to move on to something else like there's only so much. There's only so much there's only socializing that people can do. 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We not here to talk about being a trust fund baby We a here to talk about something extremely serious Josh have you heard the news? It's like a you can say nor the. Okay The Sunday law is coming whole. Did you did you did you hear that Brar? happening. On the bud. How many times? Serious talk. Now, how many times throughout your lifetime have? You heard that that fries Sunday law is coming in whatever like you know different language but that idea that Sunday law is just around the corner. Of definitely a lot more since becoming a pastor obviously. Probably, Oh man. I there were times when I was hearing it like on a fortnightly basis depending on what was happening in in the in the news. Lately. It's probably just been a few times a year. Just a few times a year. So maybe that's pretty casual committed most not anymore mother remembering that a few times a year. Yeah. Yeah. It's been a lot for me like. I shouldn't say may like it's not like. It's anybody's like directing this specifically to us but like it's one of those things that's in the aether of the adventist, understanding the Ad Psyche, the collective brain sort of waves and the way that the the biological sort of organism that is the adventist church is kind of like pot of that foundation in a way I think you would say, I've heard a lewd two more times. People to say like you know what's on the horizon kind of Things but Michael. About. Sunday. Law. Yeah. Yeah. Ed Stephanie's only that I grew up with hearing about all the time. And you know it's funny because. Advent `ISMs seventh day adventists, them is a is a fairly monolithic sort of at least a lot of conservatives would like to. Have adventist is a fairly so monolithic. Okay. This is what we are on. This is what we believe were all kind of the same kind of guy in the same direction I do find it funny. Had this idea of end time events and the things that are all associated with 'em. Time events have all kind of collated together and we've kind of picked up this and that and the other thing from different traditions. So like way in the adventist church would sack would maybe emphasize at universal Sunday law, which is what this whole episode is about by the way if you hadn't picked up on that But other faith traditions might emphasize I one well, government or microchipping or You know whatever the case may be the World Bank, the World Bank one world government a tyrannical POW that is going to take Iva every institution and every government and is going to rule with a dictatorship fists in it's going to be six, six six as their number and all that the Reptilian overlords living in their moon base. And theory by the way. Too much time. But if you want to know his name is David Ike and a lot of people take it way too seriously. And I've won welcome and you billion overlords. And this. Cold blooded myself. Sorry everyone. But. Yeah, I mean it's so funny. It's so funny man because growing up. I was inundated with I had quite conservative parents and the that's not nothing bad against them but that's sort of the world that I grew up in of This was the stuff that we talked about. This was the language that was always used these of the presentations that we attended as children and these of the conversations that we had around campfires and around lounge rooms growing up in the church where around this idea. That world leaders are conspiring behind the scenes to bring about a one world government to institute a National Sunday Law to make sure that everybody signs up for this mark of the based whether it's a micro chip or if it say I. I'd official intelligence thing or. It was always like different right like I not change the look and at the center of it was this idea that. A political power would merge with a religious power to essentially become the spiritual political superpower on earth and. they would be institutions of ship that would be mandated a national law or an international law. Perhaps, that would require you and I everyday paypal to wish a specific day to not be able to buy and sell unless we have mock of the based all this sort of stuff which. kind of kind of name. We kind of May about these days for there is still there are still people very seriously in our church still preach this message. I know there are people who listen to this podcast to sue Sisley. Absolutely all right I really into this you know and. This is definitely not to disrespect anybody or not get any of that sort of thing and I think it's A. I would say, definitely valid interpretation of scripture on you know what I mean luck. Like I, I could see how you get there what Ryan right and look we as advocates. We have a very specific way of looking at prophecy. We have a historic assist view which I don't think a lot of people quite understand that is even if they are adventist but if you don't know what a historic view of prophecy means, it's basically that you look at the Bible on one hand, you take a newspaper on the other hand and you try and marry up what's happening in the newspaper. With what's happening in in scripture It's this idea that all prophecy points to historical events that have either already happened or are going to happen and that our job is to figure out EVA, how the Scriptures interpret and explain poss-, historical events in a very specific sequential order or how events that we see unfolding today validate what we see happening in scripture if they haven't already happened So we have a very specific understanding of scripture and prophecy specifically within this historic mu point and We use that as one of big strengths like while the things that I was taught from a very early ages how Nebuchadnezzar Statue in on the book of Daniel Relates to weld empires the rise and fall starting with Babylon ending with sort of a divided Europe from the golden head to the island clive fate, and all the empires that were kind of in the midst of that from the maids and the Persians to grace to rhyme to yet further onto the. Divided. They will fit fit within this theological s scatalogical framework of a case such and such as on power, and then the next comes through and represented perfectly, and we see this and then we can say, Hey, scripture is it's trustworthy. It's reliable. We can rely on prophecy to reveal what's happened in the past which gives us confidence to be able to interpret prophecy what's going to happen in the future So. That was my understanding that was sort of what I was taught from a very early age about how scripture and prophecy works was. Was it similar few jaw show was at sort of different. Yeah. I I've actually always really liked the Daniel to prophecy about the statute I've always thought it was I still think it's cool they. How it's Yeah I don't like it. It's. It's shockingly accurate. I. Guess. Mainly because I got to say draws like Oh. Yeah. That's pretty cool. I'm sure it's not really doesn't really work out that nate late but then I go go to did research myself. It myself which is to say in itself. Yeah main like I looked into it in my own time. And I was like, well, I'm actually really impressed by this. So I, think it's Yet the prophetic voice of scrimshaw is something. I like for me Daniel, to gives me a reason to take note of the prophetic voice up scripture. And to take it seriously. But When I say that I mean, a lot of people can draw different up conclusions of what I mean by that statement I guess. For me at least I I. Yeah. Maybe. I didn't grow up with as much in a traditional sense but I grew up with. That in mind that len scripture does have a prophetic voice and we have a responsibility to actually. Look, understand interpret, interpret, interpret. Interpret. Yes. Yeah. Definitely. Definitely I'll which brings us to this this article that we will share in the shy nights and it's entitled Universal, Sunday Laws and adventist doctrinal intransigence which as I just read it don't even to work intransigence meetings ahead and transit and Spain's. This great time for a quick Google. All right younger girl it says intransigence. Noun a refusal to change one's views order. Agree about something I. Okay. I'd say that's so funny. I didn't even realize that that. Would I don't even know what the word means but Anyway. I honestly when you sent me the article because Jesse Families Article Senate to me, I think just ignore that that would even there somebody. It doesn't exist in my mind. I think I think I did exactly the same thing which is ironic. I linked to this article I linked to this article from different article because this is a column written by Matthew Quasi on spectrum magazine Sorry Yeah. Intransigence doctoral intransigence. Is humaines a refusal to change position on a particular point of doctrine which. I should say some of our listeners might not know spectrum magazine So I think we should quickly add It's A. Adventist magazine and it's The whole thing is it's meant to be various views on the Ad Venice spectrum yeah. So. It's like that that little slogan is community through conversations I think it's the idea of having. Different viewpoints and and that sort of thing is a farm where people can shed from views and I've found a lot of value to be honest from different articles. I read don't every single article that goes on spectrum, but I find a lot of value from the ones that I do read on this hope anyway, just good resuls. Yep. Interest at Venice form is the publisher of spectrum and it's an independent nonprofit organization. Tied to the church. But. Not It's not a run by the Church Yup. So get just point at this is not exactly. This is not this is not content from the seventh day, Church but rather by a nonprofit organization that is tied to the church but his independent on this. So yeah. very much the. Realm of opinion, which is exactly what I call him. It's sorry. interestingly enough. So Matthew Cody he writes his column and he starts out with site which I didn't think is super controversial but I think it is important for us to night that there aren't that there aren't any or that many. Contemporary Christian denominations that are as tied or associated with the second coming of Jesus as the Senate I had been as church Which is quite interesting. I don't i. that's. Something that which I think I mean it's in the name, right? Yeah there aren't really. Off The top of my head I, don't know maybe I can't think of any dominations whose name it revolves around the second coming of Jesus definitely, not organizations or Jomo nations that want to be held seriously as Maine's at mainstream Christian denomination right like there. You can talk cults and you know really underground sex that probably have just as much to do with Jesus second coming US but Definitely Advance Church wants to be held seriously as a legitimate Christian denomination. Sorry Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So copes. So with that in mind He goes on to talk about How way as a church have our roots in the great disappointment of eighteen, forty four in fact, a hundred and sixty, six, hundred, seventy, six years have lapsed elapsed since that great disappointment and we as a church have really built out foundation around that great disappointment. And he he asserts that way probably more than any other church in Christendom on quitting have looks to the signs of the Times to calibrate the closeness of the our other denominations have been similarly engaged in this practice but none have been as persistent and shown as much devotion to finding predictive Marcus for the seven seven second coming. As, adventist throughout history. I suppose we do this in part because of historic assist approach to ask Tall Aji an approach which seems to have bound us to specific events latched onto when we would developing our initial Herman UNIX and quite. So in this opening, I think fairly fairly standard. He talks about how church is founded on this idea of Jesus second coming we still hold that a as a fundamental tenet of APPALACHIA. and that is you know really. Central to who every advent is I mean. That's the songs that we sing the ideas that we hall. It's pointing towards that idea that Jesus is coming soon it's it's huge. Really it's. It's really like. Part and parcel of Al Gospel. Message really like we prayed Jesus Jesus Life Death resurrection. Sins but we always finish it with and he's coming again soon. Do you know what I mean? It's like the final pot of when we share the Gospel message out our angle on it. Yeah. I've often reflected on that as a fundamental difference between Venice and almost every other Christian because if you would be any other type of Christian, that ending point might be along the lines of. Better, accept Jesus otherwise hell right like, yeah. Yeah. The fire and brimstone. I'm saying Baptist not because I hate Baptist so often associated with that like Hod Baptist Fire and brimstone teaching is what I hear a lot of. That's yeah. I think there's Alice is more I think it's more of a focus on Jesus coming and saving rather than watch out. Yeah I think that's an appropriate comparison given the away like sixty to seventy percent of advance theology is fairly in line with what baptists believe anyway like we have those core differences but by and lodge a lot of what we believe is similar. To a lot of Christians like mainline I? mean. That's why we had questions on doctrine in nineteen fifties right? That's the whole idea that. Yes, we are legitimate Protestant denomination Christian don't denomination but we halt some of these things in in distinction. sort he goes on to say in his column article that the Church holds in varying degrees of fervor several distinctive gives. Some might say extra biblical doctrines concerning conditions that would foreshadow the second coming. Ikea a way have very specific understanding of how the second coming is gonNA come about Which is pretty obvious if you know at Venice theology but if That's what this episode is. We're GONNA get into. It. Some but not all of it. Is. What we're going to be for the next seventy two hours. Yes. Interestingly enough he in this little section here how way we sometimes are dishonest with how he put forth though those significant distinctive. He I'm not sure I'm not sure how fair this is. Okay. This is the article I'm not quite sure how fantasies but he basically says we sometimes seemingly purposely avoid talking about them with people who are not adventist. At as a way of not scaring people off, we kinda get the baptize we kind of get them into the church and then we unload stuff on them after they've become a member of the church. I'm not sure how fair that is. Yeah. I felt the same when I read it maybe it's just his context, but I? I've always thought like in I mean I haven't been to. Of the full on public evangelism seminars and as public evangelism seminars with through revelation prophecy health message will. And I've always thought that in that they Sunday or at least once and pretty well, and they were it seems always come up with the. Catholic show to Little Horn. Yes what is tough and generally Sunday law thou fit it in there and then they'll do another one. That's how I've seen it. So I I didn't agree with that part of the Article personally what I've seen by I'm not saying it's not turn context. Maybe it is I mean that's yeah. States. In my understanding, if anything we over shared and under shed. In, my in my experience, but that's I don't know. I. So so one of the things that hey puts forth as being very distinctive and yes, he's right. This is very distinctive. adventuresome is this understanding that a at the end of time there will be a net it's a national law actually the famous we we use this national. Sunday law because of a very famous little booklet that was published cold National Sunday Law in the twentieth century, which a lot of people point to as sort of like your little one stop shop quick guide onto what the national Sunday lorries and the understanding of Ad Venice. interestingly enough This idea of the national. Sunday law. Very much came out of an American context And in terms of the national Sunday law and the American advantageous him in the early nineteenth in all the mid mid to light actually nineteenth century There was a really interesting debate between different Christian groups and Venice Ellen White specifically participated in a lot of this where a lot of Christian groups were campaigning to have Sunday reserved as a a day of rest and a day of worship. Many of the early Christian groups who were campaigning against alcoholism and all the evils of the time. They will wanting Sunday to be legislated in as law to be a day where people could worship and businesses could not be opened. What adventist then did is they came along and they said, no, that's actually wrong. Wait I want their the government to to interfere in our worship Back. Then America was very much A. Much more religiously monolithic not quite as diverse country not that many Jewish people not that many Muslim. People. Not that many people of any other religion other than mainline protestantism. And certainly, not that many people who were in public office or in a place of influence to be out of speak into this conversation saw. Adventists began to develop this idea L. Ellen White accelerated this idea that in the end times these voices that they were currently in conflict with about whether, there should be a national Sunday law. that. Would happen and that it would be. The box based I guess or it would be at least associated with the mock the based Yeah I think what? Yeah, it's more the worship of. Like rather than. Yeah I think it's more the worshiping God in the context of what had I like the Ten Commandments One Commitments Cape Sabbath so unless you wish been God in the context of those payments if you're doing anything opposite to that, then you'll receive the lack of the base. So it's more around yeah worship but it's tied to Sunday. Looks if anyway yeah, it's the narrative. Yeah Charlie Charlie. Yes. So so yeah. This idea anyway developed and. Many many people came on board in the Ad Venezuela and it become a talking point. I guess you can say ever since. Well I would actually say it's move pastas because when we talk about it here in New Zealand trial when not acting like at the national Sunday law for us it's an international Sunday law right because the way we talk about it, it's like it's GonNa hit the whole world that wants Well. I'll maybe the whole Western will the ones I duNno. Get into details about how it's going to happen except that something something pipes empower something something world doing Sunday Sunday worship because Sunday law mark the based. Yeah. Like. How I to make fun of it a little bit there but that's kind of how I've heard it. But that's that I. think that's that's very that's pretty fair because in my view well or my experience, it's always been guy the pipe one day he's going to sign a secret order with the president of the United Sates States, and then suddenly we're all going to be forced to worship on Sunday and I'm sitting in Australia and New Zealand gone. How How's that work? Only. Told you this twenty years ago. Could you picture to more opposing ideas of the president of the United States and the black who at the moment? It's currently President Donald J trump and. Francis. They like the most opposite. Personalities. Absolutely. Yeah it's. Like Progressive Darling whereas Donald Trump is absolutely cozying up to the conservative rightwing evangelical I mean that's the whole reason he got elected. Because, he was able to do that and they are not fans of I'll. I'll pipe frank side. Yeah. I haven't had it. Would it like that before? Yeah. Sorry by but this is this is this is what This is what paper would say and. Again it's. Almost like this big Americanism, that way in the countries that are not America have latched onto guy all yep this. Yeah. This the seems legit. You know. The the. Things that could happen and then We read into it. Over and over again about everything. Yeah I I think this is a this is a challenge. And maybe if you you know, we have a lot of American listeners. I. Think I think I feel like this would be difficult to spot as an American adventist because. They prophecies were written and interpreted within your context. So it would make a lot more sense. Yes. The I would assume obviously, we're not American but then I've always felt outside of it a little bit when what would I say this like? So how exactly like America does have a lot of influence on the rest of the Western world is you know the the five is the UK Canada Australia. New Zealand you. science generally yeah. I've had that before abner comes from one of never heard of it before. Five is now now I'm confused I'm sure that's what it's called anyway. Maybe this'll be totally wrong until it'd be like wow. So once be fact check on this podcast but anyway This isn't a presidential debate. Like listening to a lot of different podcasts lately, and a lot of them will have a fact checker. Yep on board the yacht. So I'm GonNa Affect Kick Myself. Yeah five five but I want what? The basically, the US generally has a lot of influence over the yet is the five is. The other Western nations. But. We're still oh gosh. Jesse just opened news is really widely video to be a bit. So of the is right here through. And But it's still very different countries and even a lot of people feel like Astrid in. New. Zealand at the same country. That's what we. We tell a lot of people that were strides living in New Zealand This is a New Zealand based podcast. Yeah. But a lot of people still like Oh, yeah, it's at Australian podcast but the haystacks. But we are actually pretty different nations even yes. Very influential NHL although the UK. So that's why I always felt like. It just feels a bit of a stretch that it's like America would do something and then over all of us would just follow suit and then not just all of us the entire world would bring in these same law. Yeah. Now, I don't know it's always the same like well. That's Pretty. Hectic. Let me read you this. This is a quite from great controversy of Alawites, books and this is sort of one of the quotes that people often use to to to describe what this Sunday law is GonNa look like. She says the dignitaries of State of Church and state will unite to bribe, persuade or compel all classes to Ana the Sunday. The lack of divine authority will be supplied by oppressive enactments. Political corruption is destroying love of Justice and regard for Truth and even in Free America rulers and legislators in order to secure public favor. Will yield to the popular demand for a law enforcing Sunday? So. That's sort of that's sort of how she could have imagined. That's I I. Imagine that's how most people kind of kind of Im-. Envision sort of what is going to happen that you will have all the different world religions and by all the different world religions I think pretty much people just think the Catholic Church and Protestants Churches You'll have all those Christian denominations coming together and somehow Political latest I can come on board and they can assign a bunch of laws into office and. About a bang boom you've got a one world government apparently. That seems to be the only way that this could actually happen. Yeah. Which is interesting. Sorry. I. Know You're GonNa say which is interesting because because like it seems to me it seems to me that Went Ellen Watt was writing these words and people were talking about this in the light nineteenth century slash early twentieth century. The idea was this is just something that's going to happen in America because America is like the only country that matters and in some ways I think people still kind of feel the same way. But. It's like okay. This has precedents in America because we know that from the American historical record that there were these groups lobbying for this to happen, and they're also what they call blue laws which different states had where you could do certain things on Sunday and you couldn't do certain things on Sunday and actually that's sort of why even in New Zealand and in Australia. we have this precedent for why certain shops will be open on Monday through Saturday, but the not I on Sunday it's sort of like a leftover from that time and we've kind of adopted even all the way over here like I remember being a kid growing up in. New South Wales and I'd go to Western Australia to visit my my mom's family over there and we go to the shops on Sunday and everything was closed it'd be like what why Everything. All the shops are open on Sunday in New South Wales. But why not Westralia? Doubt. Brazil's I'm growing up country, Victoria my parents retail business. I've been awake never been on Sunday. Yeah that's as an I remember asking my dad why didn't work that sells curious when That's when when people go to judge its message today I was like, oh Was Yeah? Yeah at which I found interesting because then I'd go to church on Saturday but I didn't really link the two together as a five year old or whatever. But. So I look in the consciousness in the in the historical context of the late nineteen, th century One thing that we don't actually realize today is that in that time period in the eighteen eighties it was fairly routine for seventh day baptists and seventh day adventist to be singled out an jailed for working on Sunday, it was selling the happened, and so of course, people would go. Yeah. What this this could become a national thing and we could actually be persecuted for being Sabbath, capers and Sunday. Denials, Sunday Denies I. Don I am I am. Makes so much sense in that context yeah, yeah. And yet it does it does seem. Out of out of fashion and a little bit out of touch with the world that we live in right now. I feel awkward saying that because embedded in our culture. Yeah and complexities in we probably will. But. It and I want to clarify okay. I'm not saying that Sunday law could never happen an international Sunday look because. Covid nineteen has told me to be like anything could happen. The world can change really quickly. And where we are not political analysts snore in any way. So we do not have the authority to make a coal like that. We just saying we just we just we just talking about how we see things right in this moment this cultural moment white you're not a political analyst what have I been doing this for the show Nice about? As a political analyst not. But yeah. I think for me I felt like okay. This as an as told me, the world can change quickly and not always how you expect it to be. That's it. But yeah I just feel like. The idea of an international Sunday low just seems so just Fath- fetched from the world we're seeing right now. I. Don't know how it could happen. Could it happen sure yet and should we BE Prepared for trial like that Yeah. Yeah. You should be solid enough in your beliefs to know that they will be trials for a believer You know that's pretty clear cut from the teachings of Jesus. that you'll have many trials in this life had. So we need to be prepared for any trial like that. but it would be. I don't know I. I'm just thinking like is it time to maybe just look again? And think are there other? Ways of saying it because as well. I don't know if you realize his Jesse but. Worldwide not everywhere has the same weekend. So it's true in Ou- in America is still a lot of countries. The weekend is Saturday. Sunday working week is Monday to Friday, but there are some. Out there. WHO's working week is different and they weekends a different I'm trying to remember of some heads I'm just gonNA quickly quickly fact check Ma here it is in emerets. Algeria Bahrain Egypt they weekend is Friday and Saturday. Interesting Sunday is not a thing for them. Not even on the radio in other countries I believe. That makes sense. Because is a holy day if you're. Muslim. Yeah. So predominantly Muslim countries I think there are even countries where. Weekend is Thursday and Friday. But I'm not sure which ones. But I have heard that before what Hell Hall is that Sorry. Maybe. It's really nice. Maybe this this day best day of the week the well, if it was your weekend. Yeah. I got imagine if this day be like a Saturday like crazy to me. So so foreign to us. Yeah like literally but also. Good, Jack there. So yes, I guess. I. Think maybe we have to dislike stretch out our thinking a little bit. Yeah. and just think I think. Some of the things we can say pretty clearly from scripture is like I mentioned that we will have trials and as. As believers we do like. The I think there's going to be persecuted for Christians. they're already persecution for Christians in a of places in the world and I think, I, feel like. Old Christians. At some stage in your life. Persecution and I think in a lot of countries may be at the moment it's easy to be a Christian. Maybe, they will come Thomson where we're going to face like countrywide persecution on ob more serious I. mean a lot of people of taken covid nineteen as persecution for the church. I would say in some little ways that has made but I wouldn't. Yeah. I, don't think the church being singled out and persecuted. I feel like it's been really balanced. I've been reading recently about places where. There's really harsh restrictions on churches but not other places and I'm like. Well, that's a little bit of like discrimination there, but I'm saying. I don't know, but that's another compensation. I think for me I think for me the thing the sticking point first Sunday law. is has has always been this idea and he talks about this at the at the very end of this column again, read the column you can go ahead and you can say this. Eloquently than I can. I represent but. He basically ends this by saying and I agree with him. The main problem is that Sunday law. Paints seventh day adventists as the good guys with everybody else being the bad guys in the situation, a paints, baptists, evangelicals, Catholics, and every other Chris don't Christian denomination that comes on board. So to speak with the based they're all the bad guys because they don't practice the sabbath and waiter. And pits us against everybody else and. When way become the center of the Biblical story. I think that should be appoint where we have to really stop pause and go. A. We running away a little bit. Have we it is is the cut gone before the Horse in this situation? when way when the entire when Erin Hi, a biblical understanding of of of prophecy revolves around our position as the single hero good guy and everybody else being the villain in the story. I think they should really really make reconsider where we are at Because ultimately, the story of the Bible is not about us. It's about Jesus and about his faithfulness rather than Allah faithfulness of us doing the right thing even when everybody else is doing the wrong thing and yes, of course, we I I fully believe that they will be persecution in the end and there will be a choice that every person has to make. A as to whether they want to be part of God's plan of Salvation and God's. Plan of of of creating New People in a new world and and and inviting new creation versus the Counterfeit Gospel. Revelation definitely testifies to that reality. But I think we should be a lot more humble and more or less self-centered when we. try to interpret what that is actually gonNA. Look like in reality. I would agree yeah. Maybe, we're only allowed to say, maybe we should have some options he like. And we look at. Maybe like we have some like serious at the. We like to study the Bible we're getting better at it. We're getting more scholarly, but we're not. We still wouldn't clause ourselves as like biblical scholars and experts, but I would love to say like some more revisiting into this. Like just from a scholarly perspective. because. I think that. I think it's clear. that. Revelation pence's his picture, and I think even epistles that they'll be tests on your worship lack I used to wish being, God? Circumstances a pushing you away from it or giving you. I don't know how to win. I'm not waiting this. Well, Jesse could come along with is way more elegantly than I had button. Lie. It's authentic worship. I think it's authentic worship I. Think I think there's a lot of I think there's lot of parallel. Between this particular between the worship that is depicted in the book of revelation and what we see in. The prophets has Zaira May Moss. I think there's there's paralells there between the basically worship that we see in revelation and the compromised hypocritical worship that Israel finds itself involved in in those particular stories where it's all about it's all about politicizing and it's about power an empire, and it's a neglecting the poor it is neglecting justice. It is being unfaithful to what God actually wants, which is the three angels. Message is all about it's about a cool to authenticate worship, the God who created the heavens and the earth and. I think that I think that's that if we go to the very end of revelation and we we want to conjecture about what the final push the final conflict the final fight is going to be about I think it's GonNa be about authentic worship and a a an entity that puts itself forth as A. Source of or as the one who can direct people's authentic worship but his Co. completely compromised Marley spiritually politically the whole thing. Very, well, put. and very, long winded. My well put so it doesn't matter. And this is I think I think I think for me where sometimes not all the time but we hear these pots of prophecy being preached and stuffing and churches, and amazing and. Sometimes. It just feels like they've removed themselves from reality and a lot of ways. Yeah like. For example, and I'm not hiding on anybody I get it. But Ally, this need this prophecy message recently. Preaching how bad the will and it's getting worse and worse than was all the time, which in some aspects, L. World is getting us all the time but I specifically jozy example of poverty and I said and I thought to myself. Okay. That's just factually untrue out in the last fifteen years. Alone are this Forbes magazine last year. If you could try and find, maybe we can link India alone has pulled a hundred and seventy six million people out of poverty in the last I think fifteen years a lost decade. Yeah. there. That is a crazy amount of people to be pulled out of poverty. Yeah I I heard I didn't read the book but I saw some reviews articles on it Stephen Pinkas I think cold angels at better night show talking about how actually the world is better off in many different areas. One of them is poverty One of them is nutrition One of them is wars frequency of wars and the effects of was Nah. It's and these things that are all on the optic so we actually are not. The. Worldwide. If you were living below the poverty line you are in a much smaller minority then you would have been twenty twenty years ago. Yeah. Yeah. Well. Yeah. So that's that's the thing I'm just saying like. I am not saying they shouldn't I think in a Lotta ways the world is getting worse I think mental health is just Yeah Yeah does not a lot of help these days for people with mental health issues but at the same way like Yep, there's A. There are wising the world is getting worse and that should be shared from the pulpit especially in these public ventures and but we should at least. Fact Check Ourselves I. We should at least. Share about the things that actually are getting worse and not saying, look this is getting now that's what I think lack. When we talk about things like, Sunday, long we talk about these other prophetic things that we have and we get so hung up on our interpretation I don't want us to be so removed from our current reality because that I don't even think aligns with our ad stoorikhel interpretation because. Our whole interpretation is based off what is actually happening in the world right now. What is Scriptures speaking into it and what can we understand about what's coming next from this year their interpretations sometimes, we might have the feel for it, but we're not quite there. You know what? I mean. Maybe the focus I mean, I heard somebody saying the other day. To me that they were thinking. What if it's not Sunday law what if it's Friday law what if it's like Muslim like What is the cold shower? Sorry Alot. I. Have No idea. I haven't looked into it but yeah, maybe that's something and I'm not saying that like I love my Muslim brothers and sisters you not a main but using it as an example but maybe it could cause like he can say in those countries where it's like well, the weekend the whole different day. I just room for the. Again. It's one thing to. It's one thing to get facts right? Like we gotta get. At, what the cases? But especially in a post truth. Well but I think it's another thing to continue using outdated and old arguments and conjecture like just that whole idea of the world is getting worse and worse and our whole man this is the sucks but it's in some ways al-hol scatology hinges on that idea like I remember having some conversations with people on facebook sought an that you can really count that as a real conversation that when Stephen. When Stephen Pink Book came out and paper will like Oh shoot. Wait what what does that mean for Eschaton I thought the world had to get worse. Is it a bad thing that the world is getting better and I was just like what? It's a bad thing that the world is getting better like. Just it just seems. So it's the same. So upside down and backwards that we would actually have that response of also snap. There's somebody that saying the world is actually getting better in In, in some ways at all. Don't like that how does it like what have we arrived at that? That's problematic. Yeah. No. Again, I WANNA say covid nineteen has told me things can change. So quickly next year the world could be way worse and we could say, yes, the world is getting worse definitely something could happen. Sunday laws on the horizon for all of us I'm not saying any of this is. Not Going to happen I. Don't know I'm just saying like I want us to just make sure we're really looking around and using. You'd like actual data actually. And I'm not I'm not like A. What's what I'm like a mad statistician? Oh, alike yet but no look I look. Okay. He's. He's he is what I'm sick of I'm sick of going into advance Venice churches and hearing the same message using the same talking points and the same ideas. The same DADA UNIFIED DOT is wrong. Like I'm just I'm I'm sick of that. It's just lazy even if it is the stuff that adventist preachers and speakers feel like we have to share this because. So quarter adventist belief I get that I, get this. You know what you will raise with. It's what if it's what you feel is the right thing to share because it's what we've always talked about. Sure. But at least let's have the courage and let's have the intelligence to be able to look at the world honestly and intelligently process what is actually happening the actual data. Rather than just using the outdated stuff that even longer works is problematic or offensive, or it's just wrong. I would agree yeah. Yeah, and then. I think that will help us without prophetic understanding interpretation to like want once way. Yeah. When we're not when we're not like putting ourselves in a bubble until trying you know. Trying to fool something that we've always said to look more correct or whatever shall horrible to say but yeah. I think when we look around I think it's GonNa give us a better voice to speak to today's if we're actually speaking. Let. Climate. Change for example, that is. Heaven maybe some says climate change deniers. Whatever? Like that is like. A hundred percent like rick. Worthington looking for Scientifically backed. Yeah yeah time and Tom and Tom. Of. Exactly how the world is like progressing in a negative direction yellow and we're seeing the consequence of that would natural disasters and all that kind of stuff and with you how mary the wills be becoming more and more inhospitable because of it all that kind of thing which will have affects of poverty and all that kind of stuff side. But I would like to hear if somebody used that this show. See, who said the prophetic voices scripture you know but say that the problem with that Josh is that we've gotten ourselves into the into a corner with climate change because for so long we've preached that climate change is a ploy used by the left, the radical left and the pope. To, force a one world government under this guise of. Halting or slowing down climate change. So we actually can't engage with the real and scientifically verified data of climate change because we would have to go back on the claims that we have made. The climate change is going to be a ploy by which the Sunday law and the one world government will come through. Oh my God. We are going to do an episode on Kloten making the executives are. Now we might even do a few of his on A. Yeah we need. We need it will late I'm meteorologist anybody knows, I'm meteorologist get us give them in touch with us. I I don't know meteorologist I know A. Ecological scientist isn't it it's very good. Somebody. Stuff that night and science if you guys know Dan the Weatherman from from. From TV. and would be fantastic. No I just I. That's interesting to me I I. Don't think I've heard I've heard that narrative. In a very small but I, didn't realize. Like would you say that mainstream adventist teaching? Or that random independence is now becoming adopted into mainstream I. Don't know I think maybe more the latter. Yeah say that's problematic. I think I. Agree. I Grin. We've made an enemy out of something and tried to deny something that could actually bay the Prophetic Unraveling. And unraveling of a prophesied event, you know two main. reveling like it's Unin folding. That's a better way. Prof Prophetic event, and we've been like, Oh, no, it's not even real which is so we had because we're the ones who are sitting here saying Jesus coming looking prophecies what the Heck L. that yeah yeah. It's LMS man it's just it's terrible. Sorry Yeah I don't know guys. This is this is something a wrestling with and it's weird that. I'm nervous about this because it's like you can't question Sunday Law Josh. I and I you just can't do it and we're recording this and when it goes live. Jesse. Knows I'm going to have a manning's audio message about it. And then he's going to be like, should we take it down? Should we should we take it in? I think we need to opening ourselves. They say, this is an interpretation. Can we keep interpreting in Cape hiding in on it? Not just? Not just saying, this is how it is. I think that I think possibly Nar I definitely think one hundred percent without a shadow of a doubt. national Sunday law and the discussion around it. was hundred percent valid in the time and the era that it was created in I definitely think that agree yeah. We than Ellen White's world and within the world of a developing American republic, it's only that was very, very valid. I do question where we are at now I am not Australian job I'm not American. I'm not. A gentleman you heard it here. Breaking news our Kyoto Broza nail we. Dole. chipper anyway. I'm not American Josh's non-american the vast majority of seventh day adventists living today an American. Forgot about that. And you don't live in America and probably will never visit. America and so my caution. For us is the things that we teach as Gospel, truth alongside the Actual Genuine Gospel Truth of Jesus Christ, and him crucified. The things that we teaches though they are one hundred percent part of that. Gospel Message do we have? Biblical precedent for them. Do, we have to look outside of the Bible even if we have to use ellen wide again, not I don't want to diminish at Ellen White's influence on the church. But if we have to go outside of the Bible to verify and to make certain theological position. And if that theological position features and relies on something, which is a culturally obsolete or. Relies too heavily on. Something outside of your own country with a you're listening to this living in the Philippines or sal, Polo or Norway or whatever. if this, if what you teaching is completely reliant on saying that's going to happen. In America or Europe a wherever I think we should just be really really cautious about saying this is the Absolute Gospel Truth because I think we've. We've spent far too long riding on the cocktails. Our Ancestors. And not taking what they have said and actually applied per Progressive Truth present truth to that particular position and developed it the way that it should be developed for goodness sakes the church had to scarf three, four hundred years before we could figure out the doctrine of the trinity. So that's how long it takes for. The Collective Christians to figure out how we understand the trinity. Than how much longer is it going to take us to figure out something as Esoteric and and unknown as as this particular point what how long did the? How long did we the Global Church get stuck in a place without Salvation by faith? Yeah. You know like? I don't even I like. Yeah. Yeah, yeah yeah like before Martin, Luther came you know what? I mean like we we can get stuck in these. Robots. And Yeah, I guess. Just. Good Sunday low happen totally why not? I. I. Don't WanNa. I don't WanNa rule at anything these days. Yeah. That's what I'm saying like. Just using scripture I could see how Yeah. Okay. Sure. It could. Could be thing I don't know. At the Bible, we're living in a different reality. There are countries where there was Sunday. Lawrence being rolled back in Europe like it's not even a thing anymore so I think there's there's like complications and think we just need I would love love us to own that a little bit and just say, Hey, well, maybe let's let's look again. Let's Cape Jesus at the center. Let's acknowledge what the Bible really says And just concrete ourselves in that and. Yeah. I don at. But also have to add to that. I'll alternately revelation is the revelation of Jesus Christ And anything that takes us away from that revelation of Jesus I think is something we should really reconsider where at the center of this and not him. then I think we should be really careful about being too overly confident. An obnoxious about the way that we interpret scripture Ya. Yeah Yeah I. think that's all I have. That's that's all I have to show you about that. Yeah, nice take hold Jesus tightly. Look to the world with an open mind I'm trying to say date but it's not happening. So let's just leave it. I love it. I love it. If you come up with it, I'll put it out and I'll put it as a sticker on my fridge. Oh something. Nice. Good. All right. Well Anyway, we'd love to hear your thoughts on these guys like actually we really would because where? 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"In. Good Morning Arizona believe it or not. I'm about to defend more ducey. Ladies and Gentlemen Children Ages. To serve at. Circus. A address. Governor Ducey is under attack. He's being attacked. By national lab this. We, Have Salon magazine. They're asking the question. How did Arizona Blow it? Experts say governor Doug Ducey did almost everything wrong, Daddy. See what I've come to understand. When it comes to the to the pandemic response to the covert response, of course, there are two different camps. And it comes down to what these camps believe. Based on what you believe you're taking actions. You see the the left. They had the arrogance to believe that they are like little gods. That, they could control the weather that they could control the temperature. That's why they believe in climate change man-made climate change. We have to check what we're doing. We only have nine years laughed. See they believe that kind of garbage. where I believe that you know when it comes to the temperature when it comes to whether we were not given that dominion. Believe in God. I believe he is all powerful. We did not create the Earth. We did not speak the earth into existence. Therefore, we cannot break it and we cannot fixit. We were called to be good stewards. But there are some things that are somewhat just out of our control. We still have not found a cure to the common cold. We have a lot of different shots. You could take you know. It's really guesswork as to which flu is going to hit that season. They're saying that they have a vaccination. That may soon be available for Corona. Virus and you're GONNA take it. Some of you might. Not. It was born out of too much controversy. But the left believes that they could control things. They believe that if you follow the science, you know. It's the equivalent for us of following God. So when they asked the question. How Arizona Blue? How how do they WANNA blow this? The experts the experts. The experts say governor Doug Ducey did almost everything wrong. Can come to Governor Doug Ducey's defense because you know what the experts got almost everything wrong. They. The. Left doesn't care about that. Because of governor do sees effectiveness leadership because of his duplicity T. He finds himself in his position. The article. The Grand Canyon State is setting records in the corona virus. Break in the worst way. Here's why. Even by standards of National Pandemic Spike Arizona has a serious coronavirus problem. On Monday morning. The State's Health Department reported thirteen hundred new corona virus cases including eight additional deaths. In now has more cases per capita more cases, more cases see that's the new standard cases. It has more cases per capita than than other states besides New Jersey than any other states New Jersey. WHO's outbreak peaked months ago? More have more moreover I'm sorry. The rate at which new cases had been reported has surpassed the rate at which testing has been increased, which means the existing data almost certainly does not reflect the true extent of the. Out Break. The outbreak. The outbreak in which ninety nine percent of the people who get it recover from. Let's not forget that okay. Further complicating matters, Governor Doug ducey A re potluck cad. We gotta get that in there. Only authorized local governments to implement mask requirements on June seventeenth and public health officials say it will take several weeks for the impact of those requirements to be evident. Experts say. Ducey also has been criticized for personally setting a bad example after a photograph was published showing up at a social event practicing neither distancing nor mask wearing. And there it is the picture. See it's sort of like that. Wrap up smear that Nancy. Pelosi was talk about a couple of years ago. This is how the left goes Atucha. They get you. They beat you out. There are unrelenting that picture and that picture was bad. But it would not have been so bad. If Governor Ducey was not trying to play both INS from the middle. The article from Salon. Arizona has also had a series of high-profile Corona virus cases last month. A teacher in the state died after contracting the virus while she was forced forced forced the share a classroom with two other teachers. Both of whom contracted the disease. On Monday a group school board, members and medical professionals signed an open letter to see urging him to delay opening schools until at least October. Citing concerns about the safety of educators and students see how this data says. Perfect timing. We must delayed the opening of the schools. The article goes on to call out Ducey because he was called out in an impassioned obituary written by a the father of a woman who died of corona virus in Arizona. So what exactly is gone wrong in Arizona? The author asks. And what could be done to make it right? How can we fix Arizona? Of course we need more testing rapid testing. You need to enforce mask rules. Says Salon magazine. We need to listen to the mayor's. The governor needs to hand over. Here's a thorny empowered to the mayor's. But even if we put a one hundred percent facemask us. And everybody can play with it. In Arizona Right now. They're still would be weeks of pain weeks of suffering basically, how can governor Ducey fix this? How can governor Ducey make up for the mistakes that he has made? Simple he needs to comply. With the left? And with their concerns. Now! Big Article in Salon magazine. A hit piece on governor Ducey. Got a question. And I'll ask that question. At six eighteen. To the. Success. Of Your ringmaster. Errors remember tune in the top of the hour for your chance to win one. Thousand Dollars. I find myself in the position to defend Governor Ducey this morning. Governor Lord Ducie someone I've been criticizing US since we've since we've been in the pandemic. My problem with Governor do see. Is that in order to have a safe Arizona? He is trampled our constitutional rights. The left problem with the Governor Ducey is that he has not been dictatorial enough. So it was easy for me to defend him against this article that appeared in Salon magazine. How Arizona blew it. Experts say experts say governor Doug Ducey almost everything wrong. Here's my question. Where is the hit piece on Governor Cuomo, whose decisions killed thousands? Where is it? Governor Ducey's decisions. May Have Cost. BUSINESSES MONEY The death of tens of thousands of people now. Would James New York City's a big place. Yeah, I guess that means the stakes are higher. Mistakes were made. But it's funny to me. Governor Andrew Cuomo he can even admit we are failed at that business all the early national experts. We are failed. But. He's not criticized for his failure. As a matter of fact, he's allowed to praise himself for his pandemic reaction new. Yorker stepped up. They really did the right thing. They did the socially distancing. They stayed at home and we We tamed the beast. So. We taped piece here in New York because of the actions we took. Not Take responsibility for not having get state ready. Not Having, enough respirators freaking out over capacity, hospital space. Complaining whining to the president, we need this. We need that the president responding now. He's breaking bad on the president you see we have to at least give governor Ducey this. He's. We have to tap down the curve. We're trying to get Arizona prepared. And now we're one of the hot spots, even though that starting to fade and guess what. We're prepared. No Criticism For any of the blue state governors. But a national hit job going on. For Governor Doug Ducey why. Why. You know the answer to that question because we're a red state because this is all about politics. Here's another person who has been absolutely wrong about almost every thing. Dr Anthony Fauci. When president trump put the travel ban on China. Foul chief fought against the president's decision. When there was a warning, late January of possible, deadly pandemic, coming out of China. Foul. She was telling the news media not to worry. When the president, trying to work hard to engineer the fastest industrial mobilization of the healthcare sector in our history fouled, she was still telling the public that the China virus was low risk. When we were building new mass capacity in record time file was flip flopping on the use of masks. Now, when it? Came to hydrochloric win. Where the rest of the world is saying, you know what this is really effective. Dr Anthony Fauci. pooh-poohed it. The, William. What was it looking at this report here? Recent Detroit Hospital showed a fifty percent reduction in mortality rate when the medicine is used in early treatment now, Dr Cheese out there, saying that falling mortality rate doesn't matter. Is, is that the single most important statistic come on? Are we supposed to listen to Dr Algae. Are. We supposed to listen to the expert advice of foul cheesy. And see if you write an article, and you point out all these all these things that foul wrong. Then all of a sudden. You get a target on your back. Even from the administration, which I find kind of curious. So was open season. On Red State Governors. It doesn't make a difference it doesn't make. They. They could try to please the left. That's the problem appeasement work. Cover Ducey you can listen to all these these leftist reporter that want to praise you when you do what they praised you when you close the nell salons. They praise you when you close the gems and other businesses. They reviled you when you did not a pass mandatory masking laws. And then when you pass it off to the governor's, you know as sort of a sub. It didn't work, did it? Now. Red States. States that want to open up. They're the ones that are being targeted battleground states have it worse. This article that appears. In Salon is garbage. It's bullet shitty. And it's attacking the the governor of the Great State of Arizona for all the wrong reasons for things. Really that are out of their control. And then the governors out there who have been tyrants. Those tyrannical governments that have shut down that you can't even have plates with your kids. Those governors who made also mistakes that put people with Kovin with the in a nursing home, causing the deaths of thousands, they they. Scott free. Even worse they get celebrate it. It's. This is. Such weird times because it's so political. And it's damaging us. I got a question. Where is the clergy in all of this? A friend told me something last Saturday. That was very very disturbing I'll tell you what he told me at six thirty three. Sean, Hannity Works Everyday to make America great again. Listen at one on five fifty KFI and on FM at ninety five point five hd two. Of this new to the conservative circus? Ringmaster Jason, Harris Thirty minutes, or you can have a chance to win one thousand dollars. All you have to do is be tuned in and act accordingly. Very exciting a thousand dollars could be yours. We've got a crises in this country right now. And it's a crises of of courage. I have a friend who approached me a last Saturday. He said he was really disappointed. And the reason why he was disappointed is because it was not able to go wouldn't be able to go to church the next day. I'm like well well, why? The churches are closed. Wait did the Lord Ducie. I didn't was that a new decree. Did he close the churches and my friend said now. The churches close themselves. Out of fear of it what? What? Two prong going on here. We have people living in fear. We have you'll Christians living in fear. Christian pastors living in fear I talked to a few pastors. You know for the better of the community. We're just going to go ahead and do the right thing and just closed doors of the church really. On the other side, we've got mayors. We've got governors that are shutting down shutting down large gatherings, but there's a little bit of hypocrisy here. We all know. The Philadelphia is built up a reputation for hosting spectacular events of all sizes from neighboring black parties and cultural festivals. The DNC NFL. Draft monks many others. However due to the ongoing public health crisis event landscape in our city is going very different for the foreseeable future. Today? I'm really disappointed to announce that we will have a moratorium on large events through February, twenty eighth twenty twenty one wow, cities, officers, special events, not accept review, process or prove applications issue permits or enter into agreements for special events or gatherings. Or more on public property through the end of February. May Your Jim Kenney? Democrat mayor of Philadelphia No large gatherings, no events, no conscious, though nothing until January February of next year, no large gatherings, no more people over fifty. Mayor Kinney wasn't finished. The moratorium will apply to special events and public gatherings, including, but not limited to festivals, parades, concerts, carnivals, fairs and flea markets. In addition permanent for residential block permits will not be acceptable, further knows. Time line when such activities May. Will be communicated as soon as possible. To be clear. This whole in large public events does not does not apply the demonstrations and I protected activities. Gatherings that are not publically advertised such family picnics and outdoor weddings. Is Amazing. So B. L. M.'s allowed to protest their first amendment rights. But for these large churches, some of these churches doing the pandemic Aparicio's were getting ticketed. In nineteen, sixty three Dr Martin Luther King. Preached that the church is not the master. Or the The servant of the state. But rather the conscious of the state. That was Dr Martin Luther King Junior. That was like the mid nineteen sixties. He was saying that. And that seems to be forgotten by all too many of the clergy that twenty first century. Especially the clergy in these states that are locked down. You've got the real draconian measures. You just heard one some real draconian measures executive orders, preventing the free expression of religion and the name of preventing the spread of covid nineteen. And I know. A lot of folks are angry with those elected officials. But I'm starting to. Question. Where are clergy is on this? Especially, if we're going to allow the very Marxist, anti-god B. L. M. to be out on the streets and protesting. Why can we not why we're so afraid of of Christians? Singing and shouting praises to the Lord in Church. See Christians by executive order. have been prohibited in many of these lockdown states. From singing and chanting during religious services. And you have many. Say Some of these elected officials are even forbidding any religious services. Indoors. They're doing this. They're say for the betterment of the community to stop the spread of covert. Fine! That's what you believe I guess. That's what you're trying to carry out, but you know what to the clergy out there. Where's your courage? Where's your willingness to? Stand up for what you know. It's in the hearts of the right and the righteous closing your church I can see if as mandated. But closing your beating the gathering of the blast. Out of fear. I don't know. I don't know. And not just the Christians I mean I know some juice. Some of the Jews in New York like screw you de Blasio. We're we'RE NOT GONNA. We're not gonNA. Forsake the Torah. For Your wack ARY. We don't hear anything about what's happening with our Muslim brothers and sisters. I can't imagine any elected official sending the police to shut them down. But boy are Christians example love here? We're shutting down every large group gathering in this state except for protesters. That's a first amendment rights. Well, you know what worshipping is your First Amendment right as well. And although I can make a strong argument about the buildings and all that kind of stuff, but I don't WanNa do that. I will tell you this for the first three Hundred Years of Christianity. Chris she's had to meet in secret. They had different symbols. One of them is all too familiar today the sign of the fish. And they would meet. In secret and they would pray, and they would pray for each other, and they will take care of the sick. And they would quote and cite hymns. And they will do all the things that our Lord Jesus Christ told us to do when we come together and his name. Even during Pandemics Christians were known as a matter of fact to get sick while taking care of the sick and die. The people were dying. Because this world was not our home. We were just passing through. Our treasures are laid up somewhere beyond the blue. Evangelical know what I'm talking about. Lesson! I do believe just to get all biblical with you I. Do believe that some of this force compliance is just practice, just getting a soft ready for the mark of the beast I do believe that. You must wear these masks. You must do this if you don't comply just the patch just the page, though when into the fire and say there is Lord you could just you just? Live your life. But if you don't. One prominent figure. Is Pulling out of the twenty twenty president or race I'll tell you all about it at six forty eight. Slow. To the conservative. I am your message AC. Make. America you! Know. With a heavy heart that I'm telling you that. Tanya with four ways into. For into politics at bomb. Ceased? Gone Gag West. Who? said that he was going to headed to the ring as as the birthday party, the birthday party for November twenty twenty. Is being rumored to to pull out of the race. It's going to pull out of the race of course. Kanye West is is known for many many things that need snatch. Who did he snatch that award? He snatched wore out of Taylor. Swift's hands says she didn't deserve it beyond. Say deserve that. Think Brock Obama Karma Jerk. That's when that's Kinda was pretty much done with Barack Obama George. Bush doesn't care about black people. He did say that that was Hurricane Katrina. That's why most of conservatives, most Republicans, no kind. Yeah, because he broke bad on W. on national TV. He went off script. Anyone else script recently. Things were things will start to heat up for Congress when he was appeared on Saturday night. Live wearing the make America great again had ooh. The MAGA HAT did not go over well with the cast and crew of star. So, he went off on them. went off on this behind. The scenes are at the show is over, but ended up on Youtube. And he's been very loud flamboyant supporter of President Trump, will he? Announced his his presidency, I would not left went beserk. They were beside themselves. Why because this man has a? Huge following. Hundreds of hundreds of million. I'll be saved tens of millions. And when you start talking about abortion when he starts talking about the Democrat Party when he starts talking about leaving the plantation when he starts talking about Joe Biden saying if you don't vote for me, you know you ain't black. He exposes. The Real `ISMs that exists in the Democrat Party. You hear about slavery for four. Hundred Years for hundred years that sound like a choice. And he says stuff like that. Slavery was a choice. What you could make the argument that it was after all the way up until you'll do. The slaves were emancipated. June taint day. Then after that, what about it? And why are people still talking about Slavery Today Systemic Racism Well Gay tells the truth when he says that's a choice. You're you engage in a choice? No Congress West is very very dangerous weather. Running for office or whether he's not. If he's involved in politics, he is going to be spouting ninety percent of the time the conservative ideology he's crossover. He is crossed over and I told you guys a year ago over here, go Bam. He went. He was a first out there. Talking about cans I like the way she thinks I'm like oh state-owned something is going. And I think the conjugate. Westerner thinks he's talking about now politically. Could never have happened. Under a Bush administration. Something going on uniquely cool with President Trump. That is allowing. For Americans of African descent to express themselves. I was just told the other day by someone in the media that I can no longer claim the Unicorn status. He believed, and it wasn't because you have my black card either. They told me that I couldn't claim you to saddest anymore. Because there are a lot of black conservatives who have come out of the closet, a sense twenty sixteen. Yeah, if we're saying the UNICORNS, are unique. There are more of a the people that used to be unique. The. Yeah, you would lose your uniform status, but yeah, but at the same time. They're saying that I'm not special anymore. We're always Spanish I am special. I'm unique. I am me. That's not a Unicorn. Nama ringmaster. Ringmaster of the. Conservative circus still that hurt my feelings Sharon. The nonbelievers she, oh. I Ha-. So? We can't use it anymore. 'CAUSE UNICOR thing. On the nonbelievers, son the nonbelievers. Yes we can. Yes, we can to borrow a phrase from Barack. Hussein, Obama. Doctor at lists. He is blowing away all excuses to open the schools up. He says we should open them up right now. And my goodness migrations, there is a firestorm going on. a lot of us believe that the left is still playing games, and they're willing to play a what have our children. They're willing to use them as pawns. This is nothing new. About, what's really serious here, is we? We are divided. We have not been this divided since the civil war and we have a Democrat who are just not going to to play along on any level. They don't care the DISA- pandemic of they don't care about economic. Success. They are hell bent on defeating. A president trump and the trump administration. At, seven Oh three. We're going to give you the latest from a Doctor Atlas and also want you to stay tuned because it's seven thirty. We are going to have an interview in the center ring with. Betsy Devos Education Secretary. Betsy Devos about. School about returning to school this fall. So you WANNA. Stay tuned for this. Power packed our now of course at the top of the hour. You're going to have a chance to win one thousand dollars. Telling you I'm telling you deserve a circus where you need to be in the mornings. Dr Scott. Athletes is destroying Dr Vouching. Whole covert night. Garbage. A gentlemen children of all ages swallow. To. Serve it as. S. T heiress. I should've said there, too, but long garbage. Very very frustrating for those who are looking at the numbers. And those who are seeing that just how this really is not that the dismissed covid nineteen, the IT makes people sick. and. There is a the elderly among us. There are people with underlying health issues that need to be very concerned and act accordingly. It is, it does kill people. But it is not what the experts told us it would be. And there's no reason for us to shut down our bars and our schools. It's amazing because you got the left. Right here. Just happy to shut down schools me. Walk Disney is open. You could take the kids and the family down to Disney. They got the social separation got there Mickey and Minnie. To wear, they're open. By staying close, most of these schools have seen that they are non essential. I happen to think that they're very essential. So does Dr Scott Atlas. He senior fellow at the Hoover Institution. And he was on. Yesterday. He absolutely is adamant. That most people will not die from Colbert nineteen and that children. Don't spread it while you are saying how important it is to get back into school and do so safely. You are encouraging that CDC guidance befollows that there's mass wearing social distancing in all of the precautions at the recommending not for children irrational children. It doesn't matter if children get the disease, they don't get sick from this. And the the data shows that they do not significantly transmit to adult and this is. She's next one point. She starts to argue over him. Talking about the science talking about the data talking about the science, you know Dr Scott and I was like look you know. If you're gonNA follow the science. Follow the science. The science show is that mask-wearing stops the spread of the disease in. Don't we have a collective duty in this country to stop? There's no rational reason or science to say that children transmit the disease significant way. In fact, there's data to the contra either believe in the science, or you say you believe in the science. At contrary to signs, the science says, and this is data from Iceland Sweden Switzerland. The Netherlands France. UK Australia Canada all your lind everywhere in the city everywhere in the Western world has shown that children not transmit significantly to adults, even their own parents and the teachers are not not at higher risk of getting a disease like this disease from children. You either believe the science or not, you can't insist you believe in the science, and then act contrary to science, and by the way like I said we are the only country not opening schools. This is absurd. I guess thousands of. We, are. The only country. Not Opening schools. Yes. That is absurd. Dr. Alice made five points in describing the corona virus, and the absurd response to the pandemic by Dr Fauci and Assisi Number One. The evidence shows the fatality rate is much less maybe one tenth of what was originally estimated at three point four, and the reality is for people under sixty. The mortality rate is less than equal to the common flow. Dr Atlas. Number two. The second fact is we know who to protect the elderly and immune compromise are the most at risk. Those Americans in nursing homes need to be protected once again. The elderly and the folks who are immuno-compromised. They are the ones that we need to be looking out for. Doctor Dr Atlas, Number Three by isolating every single person and avoiding Cuban contact you have literally eliminated the best method to accomplish population immunity so in other words so show distancing is a bunch of garbage. According to. Dr Atlas. Number Four. Americans are dying because they're not going to the hospital to get the medical care for things other than covid nineteen. And we talked about this yesterday, and this is what they're seeing Scotland. Thousands of people are dying because they're not getting the cancer coverage dining at home. The policy of lockdown is killing. People has killed people. And yet you don't hear this discussed. Outside of a talk, radio. A some websites you can go two and half of Fox News. And the number five from from the good doctor. Dr Atlas. Society must function. The Cure here is worse than the disease and for the life of me. I don't understand why this man has been canceled. Like other doctors, it is unbelievable how the politicians don't look at the new data and make different decisions ask. Some politicians do. We have our congressional delegation. That's doing just that. About on the local scene, no! That's not what's happening. And can sit back scratch our head and say wonder why, but we don't have to because we were towed. By a Senate leader. Karen Fan. Member that email was sent out. Is All about the money? It's about the money. I guess for those governors on who lean right, but on those who lean left. It's about getting power back. Right now we got our students. The children are caught in the middle of this. The start time for schools has been pushed back. And it's been pushed back in mostly blue states. We're hearing that it's going to be pushed back to October here. In the Great State of Arizona. And that's because. We have a our. Scheckter. Public Public Instruction. That department is being run by a a liberal. A liberal, And we're going to talk about Kathy Hoffman. And her decision. A her fear. She say this is a very scary time. What is Kathy Hoffman afraid of? That's going to be at seven eighteen. S, the You are listening to the conservative circus. Ringmaster James to Harris at the top of the hour. Your chance to win one thousand dollars make sure that you are tuned. Our. Superintendent of Public Instruction Kathy Hoffman. She told her. Family. That as of now, it is definitely not safe to open schools. It is definitely. Definitely not safe. Schools. Is Kathy Hoffman, Dr No. Is Kathy Hoffman. Following this science won't know. But. She is the Arizona Superintendent of Public Instruction. As, she does have the power. along with the governor. Our, Lord Ducie to do just this t to delayed things because it is definitely not safe to open the schools. School openings have been. have been instructed to be delayed through through a at least August seventeenth and might go later. Later. So what our parents to do. What are the alternatives? Kathy Hoffmann says we are definitely evaluating whether or not August seventeenth is realistic. Date for Arizona I'll tell you right now. I'll. I'll lay odds that is not. I'll lay. Odds are push this thing back further. Kathy Hoffman I completely understand where these educators and school leaders are coming from. This has been a very. Very scary time to see the search here in Arizona. I'm not going to be little. People who are worried a people who are looking at the landscape in very very afraid of the corona virus. I just happened not to be one of them. listening to Dr Atlas. We know where we need to concentrate our resources. We'd know who we have to protect. To go beyond that at this stage of the game is fear mongering. But Kathy Offman. She does not agree with me and she is the Arizona. Superintendent of Public Destruction. She says we know community. Spread is high, and the risk is high. As of now it is definitely not safe to open school, which is why we had the late in person instruction. She. She said also. If we are doing distance learning distance learning. We know across the state that there's roughly wait for it. Wait Far Rhett. There's roughly. Two hundred thousand students who do not have access to the Internet at home. I thought that was something to. Take care of years ago. Internet access in homes. Often, says we call that a digital divide. We have so many students who would be learning via distance learning, using a using things like packets, which is just not comparable to having high-quality in person. Instruction is really the worst way for kids to learn. Okay well, then open up schools. This is learning is is for those kids who are motivated for those families that have means. You know what you can get away with it I've been watching my daughter distance learn in the last part of her freshman year in college. Is better than in person. No, of course not. Even if you're talking about crappy schools because the reality is. That these these candies, two hundred thousand students who do not have access to the Internet guess what unless their parents have packets and are working through them. They've just been lost. They through the cracks. You can't keep. You don't know what's going on with them. Hoffman is alluded to the fact that while having kids in class might be best way for them to learn the fares the fears. Not The facts. Not The data the fears. Surrounding Covert Nineteen Real. And then of course in this article they bring the teacher that that called the corona virus. And died. As if teachers have not been dying of other things with because one of the teachers died of Corona virus and a cover of a few others. Have it well. That's what. that. Fear is real. And off the says I know, teachers are feeling anxious for their own lives as well as the wellbeing of their families again the facts. That data show that kids don't get it and they can't give it to adults. Book, but what good is that? We're too busy fearmongering. Amazing. Also. Let me point out the fact of the Arizona Department of Education. Has. Set aside five million dollars of his federal cares act funding. Money. Specially for Special Education compensation services. I'm sorry. Yeah, 'cause. Compensatory services the money's meant to help out schools. What's going to happen here, this is very interesting and the only reason. Why is very interesting to me? Is Because I. Don't have any kids. That are of school age. To parents out there, this has to be terrifying. This has to be frightening. What are you going to do is high time to get back to work what happened? You can't go to work when you've got young kids and they can't go to school. They don't have a place to go. I want to invite you to download the podcast of my interview with Diane Douglas. You will find that interview to be very helpful. She's the former Superintendent of public instruction. And she has some alternatives. For parents who don't want to be held hostage. By our government, run schools and their teachers. At seven thirty three, we are scheduled to have an interview with Betsy Devos. On these kids returning to school looking forward to this because she has been under fire for Taylor, I pretty much, saying the same thing here that you know, kids really need to be back to school and trying to find out ways to get folks to. Help carry that out. We're talking to the US Secretary of Education as seven thirty three. Will rightly it's here this morning of nine fifty on five fifty Kfi FM, ninety five point five hd two. You're listening to the service circus. Your ringmaster to here's has been. Give you know for ten years. I was a high school teacher, High School, history teacher and I look forward to the beginning of school year every single one of those years and I could not imagine not being able to do my job, but that was. That was a few years ago. Things have changed now. We have this pandemic we have. Have a crisis that we have a lot of schools, a lot of states that are afraid to reopen the center ring of conservative circuits. We had the secretary of Education of the United States Betsy Devos and Secretary Devos. Does it appear to you as it appears to me that this thing is political and that Democrats want to rob our kids of a good education. Well Good Morning Games we know that kids need to be in school and that they've lost months of learning this spring in all too many cases, and we know that kids can go back to school safely. It can be done safely, and in fact, more and more studies show that kids are actually stoppers of the disease, and they don't get it and transmit it themselves, so we should be in. In a posture of the default should be getting back to school kids in person in the classroom, and for those who have an underlying condition or some concern that keeps them from that they still have to be able to learn full time. We cannot afford to have kids missing and losing more and more months of education. Is there anything that the CDC has identified as a reason not to open these schools up? No none at all, in fact, quite the opposite. All of the medical experts are continuing to say that kids should be back in school. They should be back in their learning environments, and in fact for children's health, it's important for them to be in school for almost all of them to be in a classroom and with peers, and with their teachers, and as you know as a former teacher. There's nothing more important than Matt that. Were poor and that relationship and that and that you know what results in social emotional growth and development from being in school with peers. This is one of the things that I think. A lot of people are very concerned about the impact of that. Not Being School is having on these kids in the censoring of conservative circuits. We have a education secretary Betsy Devos. Let me ask you this. Because when the president was talking about closing down, states the flat, flatten the curb. He didn't have that power that have to happen. Happen from the states and now when things should be opening back up there blaming saying that the president does not have the power to step, and it's the same thing with you. You don't have the power to step into the states and tell them that they must open a, but you've you end the president of trying to offer some incentives and penalties. Why is it that we have so many states that are punked punch or pressing the brakes when it comes to just getting back to doing what is constitutionally job? Well family I think there's a lot of politics coming into this and It's kids who are being made to be pawns in this and. We! We cannot fail our children. We have for most many of them have gone with no learning, no advancement at all. We know that it is good and and right for kids to be in school and learning and our focus should be on how we do that safely, not if we do that, schools should be fully operational again a fulltime learning for kids, and if the if there has to. To be a remote option because of a flare up here or there that can be that schools can work that out edge. Education leaders are smart people. They're well educated. They need to just start thinking outside of the box on how to do things to ensure that their students can be back there in person, learning and and continuing to to feed the whole child in terms of their education. To aging geared secretary twenty three states, attorneys generals are suing over student loan forgiveness changes. Can you tell us a little bit about the student forgiveness controversy? That is going on right now. I think you're referencing what we call the biodefense repayment rule. It's a rule that became final. July first and what it really does is protects everyone for students who have been the defrauded by an institution and financially harms. They have a very clear path to resolution for that for taxpayers it protects from fraudulent claims of fraud and and it it really is a balanced approach to ensuring that that schools hold up their end of the deal, and that students have a process if they don't and that, taxpayers are protected in that whole process. That is the case which is sounds like a fantastic idea and I think there's probably a rolled back from Obama era regulation. Why is there so much pushback for this? Well I think that It's been clear that the Democrats have really wanted to. have a lot of college loan, forgiveness and student loan forgiveness, and this was a back door attempt in the previous administration to make that a reality and we came in, and did re reregulate under that rule to ensure that there is a balanced approach to acknowledge that if and when students are defrauded in. In financially harmed. They have they have a way to resolve that, but also that taxpayers aren't left on the hook for claims that are not that don't have validity. Secretary, Betsy Devos is in the center ring of the conservative circus. One last question for for you today. Thank you very much for joining us. This problem could go on for a while. with the state's holding out on. Schools is there a plan B or c? Well first of all Congress and the President in the cares package appropriated funds for K twelve education over thirteen billion dollars of that thirteen billion dollars, which has been fully distributed to the states less than two percent of it has actually been drawn down or spent so there are funds there that they can be using to to work creatively. Doing sure school can real ben I know is discussing another package and I suspect they will be discussing more resources for K twelve schools, but the again I. Think there's there's a lot of posturing. Posturing and and unfortunately, too many politics that have entered this equation and kids are the ones that are getting hurt and their families and their parents are getting hurt as a result of all of this posturing I agree with you, so would there ever be a scenario where we would withhold funds? Where were these hardly would withhold funds from schools well that that is something that we're certainly looking at from the administration perspective and I know that there are those in Congress looking at that same thing We know that states have Contribute most of the resources to education and so I just WANNA urging encouraged state leaders to You know really. Think about the impact on kids and their families when kids cannot be in school and I think especially about the most vulnerable kids kids from low income families who really count on the opportunity for that routine for for a regular full-time learning environment that is so critical to so many of these kids those are the kids that are gonNA. Get hurt the most those. Those with resources will figure out something different and alternative, but we have millions of kids in this country that have to have that opportunity to go to school to learn face to face in the classroom and education, leaders and state leaders have to figure out how to do that. Education Secretary Betsy Devos I happen to agree with the one hundred percent and I. Think the only way if they continue to pull off. These shenanigans is to stop paying them then we'll see how long they will stay out of school speaking of Shenanigans. We got some stuff going on one of our prominent universities. We're going to have to talk about at seven forty. Brush is still the best listen today at ten on five fifty KFI and on FM at ninety five point five two. I'm. Listening to the. Circus. Your master James, to Harris. At the top of our chance to win one thousand dollars make sure you're doing dead. Just heard from the secretary of Education Betsy Devos. At she said, according to the science. There's no reason for our schools to be closed. I know that I know that we are hearing different things. But I think it's interesting. That, we're talking about facts. We're talking about data versus emotions. And politics. And the emotion and the politics is on one side of the island facts on the other. And because this is a state decision. I think the governor Ducey OUGHTA. Go ahead and do the right thing and open up the schools. Until the teachers to report? James What happens if the teachers don't report what happens if they walk up, Oh, you mean sort of like red for ED. one of the things that I I'll give I'll give the Republic of credit. They pointed this out. You got two hundred thousand kids out there that we are in danger of losing. Secretary Devos brought up that as well. I mean. Be could give incentives. We could take away since that's all that can happen on the national level, but on a state level. Has, a former teacher I got. Ask The teacher what what's wrong with you? I was a conservative teacher working in a very hyper liberal environment. And yet. I could never imagine. Walking out. Never imagined some type of union action. That's going to the shutdown shutdown learning. Times have changed. The will we're talking about here. I think is very very serious. And that's why I'm a number. Of course we have to look for the for the government. We have to look for a public structure with the do the right thing, but you know. There's a strong possibility that they probably just won't. So you have to do is go to plan B.. Plan C.. and looked for alternative ways. For Your Kid, your child to be educated as if you have the means. Hey, so that that's that's what the Secretary Devos was saying as well folks with. They're gonNA. They're gonNA find a way. It's the folks without. Means are the ones that are going to get screwed, and if that is the case, they need to look to the governor. They need to look to the legislature lead to look to the public instruction. Something else is going on got an email from a listener. Ringmaster my daughter received this letter from the Dean of the Honors College Today. Thought you might be interested. The first two sentences say at all. Now. Look at this the honors. Of Arizona. Honors College a little read out here. Here's how it opens up. Brace Yourself. This country is built on a foundation of systematic. Racism discrimination and white supremacy. To Dismantle Systems that perpetuate racism, discrimination, and oppression, we must acknowledge their existence and take steps to eliminate them. Much of this begins with awareness and education. We commit the taken the first of many steps to create an anti-racist community through self reflection, reading, challenging discussions, trainings and workshops. The Honors College Leadership Faculty and Staff Commit to doing the critical work to raise our consciousness to better support our students and community we agree. With the coalition of black students and allies that. A letter that lacks compassion is not good. Enough and Instagram Post that lacks compassion is not good enough. Empty words that promises are not good enough. Avoidance and silence, absolutely disrespectful and not good enough. We are developing actionable plans with intention to lift up our community rather than do harm. We will be thoughtful and continue to evaluate our progress. We are honors strong. Together. On behalf of the Honors College, Staff and faculty in solidarity, and then they excited her name's doctor Dean Hunt. Dr John Poured? Dr Karen Waiter Dr Cherie Mix and then got the big black fist at the bottom of the page you A. You of A. You of a education tax money. Steep Tuition Fund Racial Division. We're funding racial division. Started on the college campuses in has come full circle and it is crazy. It is radical. It is Marxist. And I think the best thing that we could do is work to defend it. There's a group of of never-trumpers out there. Some of them were once prominent. And then one last big. Effort! Last ditch effort. They're coming together to try to defeat president. Trump. In November. They call themselves the Lincoln Project. And what is absolutely scary is They're amassing a large amount of money, but was actually very beautiful is they're getting punked by the left that they've been teaming up with to try to defeat president trump when I. Those who punked trump get punked. They call themselves the Lincoln Group. Syrup budget net for trump passages with ties to zona. Gentlemen Children of all ages. Chung to. Serve. Circus. Themselves Lincoln let go at the President Lincoln. Didn't. There just being themselves actors great president. They think they're saving the party. They think that they are scrubbing the party of the great uncleanliness of A. President trump? You got a bunch of a former conservatives I. Guess they still call themselves conservative. Jeff Flake still calls himself a conservative. He's just trying to save the Republican Party. He wants it to live up to its principles. Don't you know didn't Jeff Flake, leave the party. Not only just. Know, he's still eastern Republican I mean like he laughed because he couldn't handle trump. So why would he care about the party that he no, no, no, no, he got forced out. You See. He was polling so low. He'd even bothered to run again. He knew the anybody Dave primary. He would lose so what he did instead was trying to chastise all the Republicans on his way out the door. They've picked up some. You know some giggle ABC CBS NBC whatever that they keep the. Keep the money coming in, but now he's still alive. Active, and a pain in the assets couldn't not fix the party from within as an actual official instead of being on TV. This is the reason why. I. Don't let you talk a lot because you ask. Very, good questions. You asked very good questions. That are going to make the audience more upset before I want them to be at. This is what I'm saying. Yes, he could have tried to heal party from within Ross. But you know what you know what Jeff sessions people to understand something. Jeff sessions is a huge lesson here with jeff sessions punt trump by recusing himself. I know. Everybody says he had to do it I know. Everybody says it was an honorable thing to do not forget that it's that about honor anymore. It's about saving the republic. And when you put yourself in a position, you should have just step down instead of recusing yourself. And they created the window for the never trumpers, and the left to walk in and create two years of jess craziness for this country with the whole collusion nonsense. President Trump Ainhoa part I keep telling you out here. You know poke. He's No. He's no punk. That's why Jeff. Sessions got punked when he tried to run for office again. Elise flake had enough sense not to try to jump back into running 'cause same thing would happen to him. Only would have been worse. But instead of trying to heal the party from within as my producer was suggesting. But they're trying to do is destroy the party from without. The. This, Lincoln! Of Group. It's. Amazing Lincoln Project. These former conservatives are making a whole lot of money once again. They're raising money. And are joining the ranks. The Democrats are joining with a with a bite under supporting. Biden okay, it's bad enough. But it has ties to. Arizona. Great Great blog out there of site for you guys to to write down into visit. Often seeing Red Arizona, they were the first ones. Come up with this this Gupta, the connecting the dots la La la La. Nearly two years after his death, the long arm of vintage vengeful John McCain grotesquely held aloft by his longtime operatives, extends out of the grave to fulfil grudges and create havoc within the Republican. Party. John McCain Status met. You're part of the Lincoln pro. The latest mission now. is to up in the re election of President Donald Trump. I'm telling you is crazy when you think about it, too spiteful kniss of John McCain from the from the thumbs down in the middle of the night does just pure just even if flows out of his daughter. The hate that they have for the president of the United States in people that support him. Stab at. Sake. Speak. There is no bottom dragging. That is too low for these evil anti-trumpers. This is from the cigarette. They view their despicable efforts to purge the president and give the boot those who who they regard as expendable. These Republican senators. This is why so many of them hesitate right now getting behind trump because they know that the Lincoln project is out there. The link folks are ready to get rid of folks for the greater good. There's this this is like flake personified. And they learned well. From McCain. 'cause he spent his whole career colluding with the Democrats sticking his thumb and Republicans is. A. Former campaign manager Steve Schmidt. And Senior Adviser and longtime strategist John Weaver are intra to the Lincoln project. which was co founded by George Conway what? Kilic? Kellyanne Conway's husband, yes! George Conway. He is all up in this. And this group has have released attack ads against the president. And against Senate Republicans. The Lincoln Project stated mission is to defeat President trump and trumpism at the ballot box. Steve Smith. He was quoted saying the analogy would be in the same way. That fire purifies the forest. It needs to be burned to the ground and fundamentally repeating. Talk they need to burn. The Republican Party to the ground. And you're saying the everyone Republicans that work with trump. Every one of them should be voted out of office with the exception of. Mitt Romney. We'll I'll tell you what. The Lincoln project tried to make friends tried to team up with some other prominent lefties. Ended up getting sole punked asked to be delicious this delicious. How much he was embarrassed. I'll have that for you. Coming up next. Phase. Breath. Visiting to the conservative circus I have ringmaster GMC Haret's. We're talking about the leap can project. Is Been inspired by the wrath of McKay. He's been gone two years and yet his his spirit still drives. The never trumper wing of the Republican Party. We have some of his old Camp People Campaign People Who are of this of this McCain syndicate? And they're trying to take out president trump the trying to take out of the Senator Mc Sally. They're trying to take out other G. O. P. incumbents. A one of the people that are part of this I should say McCain's former campaign manager Steve Schmidt. And, senior adviser and longtime strategist John Weaver. and. We have George Conway. Who is the husband? Of White House Legal Counsel Kill Kellyanne Conway Seriously, do we? Look at her with a wary eye. This reminds me of A. Matt well is at. What was a couple? who were married of this is back in the Clintons. He was wondering Clinton strategist. Mary Madeleine in a James Carver. But they but they word I mean. This guy her husband George Conway. He has all kinds of spite for Kellyanne carnevale. Our Jeanne Darville all kinds of spite is ugly. So now we gotta have like. How can they stay together with this kind of spike going and Kellyanne conway putting up with the, but he's trying to derail her career. He's trying to derail of president trump. This is what trump derangement syndrome looks like. There's another one of these. A never-trumpers used to be a prominent conservative. His name is Rick Wilson. And Rick Wilson been the public face of this now they came out with the this link of project came out with some anti-trump ads and I'm not gonNA play those for you because I. Don't have time to that in a conservative circus. None at all, but I will give you a montage. Of the media's reaction, the leftist media absolutely adored Lincoln Project. And they gave them tens of thousands of dollars worth of free ads, maybe even millions in simply praising these anti trump videos. Net you're part of the Lincoln project. You are destroying this president's incompetent, and there's one level which Lincoln project is just trolling. Donald Trump and inside his head, manifestly at the Lincoln project is like watching a Jay Z NAS rat battle I mean they don't let up on this President Lincoln project founded by members of the GOP dedicated to. Donald Trump defeated ads of terrific the smart. They're super fast, which is great? They trawl Donald Trump be the Lincoln project has just been hammering Donald Trump I think he's starting to feel for the first time you know what it likes to be losing. Take a look at this new ad taunting trump from the Lincoln project. Well, they're out with a devastating new TV ad. Here's the Lincoln projects latest AD. Let's take a look part of a new ad I wanNA play an ad. Here is the latest ad when I say new. This one's new. I mean they go on and on and on. To the point where Rick Worthington. never-trumper Lincoln Project says you know what we are now this collusion. We're going to get together with. The Democrats were going to get together with the Liberals. Bringing a team up. We're going to defeat president trump, so he went on the Stephen Corvair show. That this be a lesson. There is a teachable moment coming up here. So pay attention. never-trumper Rick Wilson who is prominently featured on the morning Joe. has very very comfortable on the morning Joe. POP UP WITH THE PRESIDENT POPPING UP ON CONSERVATIVES REPUBLICANS ON TRUMP, supporters. Worked last time, right, let's talk about how the Lincoln Project spends. All those viewers money here is how much three other top liberal super PACs spent on operating expenditures compared to total disbursements in other words, the percentage spent on overhead costs including salaries over their lifetime senate. Majority packs pens sixteen point eight percent on head unite. The country is fourteen point, seven five percent and American bridge. Twenty century is forty six point seven percent. What do you think the percentages for the Lincoln Project? While you're going to see our new now, hold on. He's talking to. This is on the Steve. Kerr show and they invited him on and Rick Wilson. Start when I do so well over there with the morning. Morning Joe is going to be more the same. He doesn't know that it is a setup. He doesn't know that it's a trap. So when they asked him about this new group. The link project and how much money they they they spend. How much money do they collected? How much of it actually goes out to their project? These videos well. Rick Wilson got caught while you're going to see our new report coming out in July, which represents our first the first major period in our campaign that wasn't involved in start up costing was issued awesome data and data costs, and you're going to see that we are. We are putting about eighty five cents of every dollar into voter contact. Eighty five cents of every dollar into voter contact with that would match up with the other a groups that were mentioned. But the reality is. That eighty five cents for every dollar is going into Rick Wilson and the other Lincoln Projects Pocketbooks. They're liquor project members. In other words they got caught red, handed with their with their hand in a cookie jar and got exposed on Stephen. Colbert Show eighty-five percent with fifteen percent. Going to overhead would be a lot better. Because right now it's the opposite eleven. percent goes to independent expenditures. An eighty nine percent goes to overhead eighty nine point three percent on overhead sounds like a lot, but I can't get into the right head space to make ten second ad without wolfing down endangered molluscs in titanium, Catamaran with Bush. Administration buddies. Before you're looking at the start up an acquisition costs from the first quarter, the second quarter is GonNa show that we have a massive amount of money escrow to the bank for Media and voter contact this fall, and our numbers are competitive with any other pack, and in fact much better than sure. No, so that's a lot of cash. While he ended up getting bird and filleted so in the video. If you watch it, it's rick. Wilson talking to four screens of animated, not real people. They were four cartoon characters. Why would you ever set yourself up for this? And they absolutely destroyed him and destroyed the link project, but then thank them for going after the president. They got punked. I will tell you the rest of the story at eight thirty three. Still driving the left nuts. That's why we love. Rush this morning on five fifty K. of Y and on FM at ninety, five thousand five hd two. You're listening to the conservative circus. I am your master James. We're talking about this Lincoln Group. And just wanted to take you the rest of the story. We had to Rick Wilson. He was part of a never-trumper he's. He is a got exposed by Stephen Colbert. It got exposed by the latest video. They took a video out an anti-trump video. They put it together and then they changed it and then left Stephen. Say. Rick Wilson speechless all right well given all this. We had our media arm, which is me and I'm expensive. Make a new Lincoln project at. President trump is the most incompetent corrupt president in history, and we need to do everything we can to stop him. After compensating, our strategists complicit in the deaths of countless innocent lives and paying for overhead, such as lodging at the w hotel, and the standard, both of which have fantastic roof decks. Stop this corrupt Griffin ruining America donate to these savvy grafters who ruined it before and hope you don't look into them all right, Rick. Hoover up some more rube cash, so that's all the time we have. Thank you to our analysts and guests Rick Wilson the Lincoln Project, thanks a lot rick. Metric. Just sat there. Silence Dawned Shamed punked. As he's never. Trumpers are moving to stop the president and they got exposed. It's the most embarrassing thing that I have seen in a very long time as most brilliant takedown, I've seen in a very long time in center ring of the conservative circuits. We have. Dr Kelli Ward is. She is the chairman of the GOP and Doctor Dr Ward There's there's there are people out there who are really naked at their business, their effort to try to derail not only president trump, but also derail a senator of Senator Mc, Sally, and other prominent Republicans in time for this for the November November elections. Janke you're exactly right. I, mean the the the Evil Forces are coalescing the lacked the media. Never Trump's so-called Republicans. They are Republican in name. Only give me a break. These people like George Conway and and his Ilk they are disgusting because they they liked the way Washington DC ran when they were all the big wigs, and nobody questioned them, and they could make promises on the campaign trail delivered. Nothing gets a big. Big paycheck. Become lobbyists later become millionaires and Donald. J trump has thrown a wrench into that to bring America back to life to be representative republic that we deserve to have Vicki it stand it the chance, Dan but you know what that's happening nationally has ties out of Arizona. Be also have another story year. The eighty is reporting that the daughter-in-law of Rupert Murdoch, a former Clinton Foundation board member has gotten involved in the Arizona legislature. Legislative races. Does that surprise you? You know it. It does not surprise me because The the people with money want to buy our country whether it's marks Kelly being fully funded by these radical leftists from all over the country, and probably all over the world to be honest, or people trying to put leftist into Republican slots in the legislature it, it's it's it's really appalling. People have to do their homework and decide what kind of country that they want. Do they want? country run by central planners where we have no individual liberty, no individual choice, no individual rights, or do they want? Want the America that our founders in visioned where all men are created equal, and that we have opportunity, and we have the right to life liberty and the pursuit of happiness. What do you want? I want I want freedom, and that's why I do this job for free as the chairwoman of the Party of Arizona and why I fight so hard to maintain those principles and to teach other people about them, Dr Kelli. Ward is in the center ring Joe Biden's radical shift leftist everything. You're talking about right here. Is He's shifted to the left on. The economy has shifted to the left on social issues. It should be a whichever way you decide Dr Ward. It should be very very stark. Choice this November. It definitely should and obviously we can see that Joe. Biden is a puppet whose strings are being fooled by the very very far left radicals in the Democrat Party. Because you're exactly, right. He's shifted on the economy. He shifted on social issues. Immigration policing and this this platform that he put out is the most radical leftist platform in the history of American residential politics. I call it. The Biden Bernie grows platform myself because it basically is a total socialist takeover of the United States. It is dream of every leftist. That has been out there. Every single thing is included in there. Destroying the energy sector, they want to abolish the American energy sector. They want to abolish our borders. They want to abolish choice. They WANNA abolish the police and ice. THEY WANNA abolish law and order. They wanted to abolish the drive to be successful. They want to abolish capitalism they have no care that that's going to destroy over ten million jobs. They have not care that taxpayers would be required to pay for Free Community College and and for Free Healthcare for people. People who come here illegally? They don't want any detention. They don't want any bail. People shouldn't have to have bail if they break the law I mean. It is such a socialist manifesto. That I can't believe it even was put up on Joe Biden's websites talk about Joe Biden in this way Dr. Ward and I agree with you one hundred percent. But why is it that more people are not talking about former astronaut? Mark Kelly and his ties to Chinese tech giant's. Because the left wants to buy this election, so they're putting pretty pictures up of of Mark's Kelly remember, I call him marks Kelly because he routinely has allowed China to take advantage of the United States and it will be even worse if Biden and Mark Mark's Kelly are elected together. you know in twenty fourteen? The Chinese media actually described Marx Kelly as instrumental. They used the word instrumental insecure financial investment from ten cents. That is the Chinese. Chinese tech I that has been accused of espionage He was instrumental. So why would we want a Chinese apologised in the white? House oiler in the United States Senate from the Great State. Of Arizona. I don't you don't and I hope that the people are going to open their eyes, not believe the pretty pictures that are put before them, the bread and circuses that are used to distract them so that we can actually save our country. That's Dr. Kelli Ward. Chairman of as e Gop on point in her analysis. You know it is Kinda. Funny because we're talking about Marxism. We're talking about the ties to Biden. Camp has to China the ties Mark Kelly has a China well for those of us for those of you. Who had been doubting US saying that you know come on, you're just making much ado about nothing. You stay tuned. We were we were justified. We the people were justified. You'll never guess who came out in support of Joe Biden I'll tell you at eight forty eight. A. Brush, that's the only introduction he needs later today between ten and one on five fifty K. of. And on FM, Ninety five wait five hd two. She. Listening to certain. I am Your Ring Message James to, harass. It. Is that a coincidence that we're seeing so much marches, the MOMS and I. I gotTa Tell. You I'm thrilled that many of the pundits out there, not shying away from calling it as they see it. We're seeing a Marxist theory. We're seeing communism. We're seeing socialism on full blast. And those folks out there who are pushing it. They know what they're doing. You have a lot of people who are duped to our food. Who Don't know civic don't know the history. Don't know just how deadly Marxism as How it caused the death of over one hundred million people in the twentieth century. and. How nothing has changed with this ideology? And I'm heartened that they're out a from behind the shadows now on a full full press because they they see this as their opportunity. Yesterday Who would have thunk it? One of the most radical individuals of the nineteen sixties came on out. We're talking about a woman who was a former Communist Party USA vice president candidate. A former Black Panther. The mother of woke academic academics. This is this is the queen bee on all campuses. She confirmed what conservatives have been saying for Very Long Time Angela Davis. came out. To support! Joe Biden I. Don't see this election as being about choosing a candidate who will be who will be able to lead us in the right direction. That will be about choosing a candidate who can be most effectively pressure into allowing more space for Anti Racist Movement, more space for an Ed to racist movement. This is what conservatives has been. People say long. We've been saying this. Joe Biden is weak. He is adult. Many. People think that he's very nearly senile. He is a vessel. Who will serve as a perfect Trojan horse? To draw in voters who imagined? He's still a moderate Democrat. That he still sent you, but the fact is. He's got extreme. Political lefties that are backing him up. And they're, they're snaking into the void, and they're seizing power, and they're setting agendas. The fact that you have Angela Davis. Out. Proves that that we knew it. They know it now. They're saying it. There would be tyrants. They're telling you who they are. All you need to do is believe them. Very problematic in many ways. He has not only in terms of his past and the role that he played. A pushing toward mass incarceration a, but he's indicated that he is opposed to. Disbanding the police and this is definitely what we need. We need to re conceptualize the very notion of public safety. But. I say but. By is far more likely to take mass demands, seriously far more likely than the current occupant of the White House, so that this coming November, the election will ask us son not so much vote for the best candidate, but to vote for or against ourselves and devote for ourselves. Angela Davis vote for yourselves. She's a Marxist. Vote for black lives matter. I mean all of black lives matters talking points. This is the mother of Angela Davis. She wants reparations defunding the police abolishing prisons. Want speaking of reparations. You GotTa make sure you're here. Nine three I gotTA. We gotTA story reparations going to blow your mind Angela Davis. Black lives matter. They're part of the cancer culture as well as the destruction of fossil fuels, industry, open borders, government, healthcare, government, housing, government, education, taxing every business out of business. It doesn't end. Until the real idea, fool communism. Comes into action. You Got Week Biden. is going to be. Barack Obama. Week bided. He is tired. Old Worn out rickety. Broken down old vehicle. The going to steer this country into communism if we let this happen. Black lives matter the even a leader said that they are trained. Marxists. And now. They've got Angela Davis onboard. She's come out front and center to endorse. Joe Biden. So Yeah Dr Ward She's on absolute point talking about the Chinese ties to the Biden's the Chinese ties to mark Kelly who's running against a MC sally. The Marxist out. That got the kids. They're full there in the streets of pushing for socialism. Kids can fuse. They're calling themselves and Tika which is means anti fascist, and they're the ones who are carrying on fascism. It's a mess. And unfortunately it's started to gain some ground. We're GONNA. Talk about the latest with reparations. We're also GONNA talk about. President trump because he's. This is all going down, but he's sitting there. He's like a prizefighter in a ring. He is a swinging back in. It's a glorious glorious thing this is this is gonNA fight. A POLITICAL WAR I believe we're already in cultural civil war. But for those of you are standing by the sidelines. I'm telling you gotta be invited gotTa Call Your friends. You gotTA. Call Your neighbors. We have to be involved, not only the national election, but also the local election. This one is for all the marbles. Jazz when you think you seen it all. Reparations. Gentlemen Children of all ages. To kind of serve whose? Address. Had radicals on the left of the screen for years. They had their forty acres and a mule. The funny thing is for those who know the history of forty acres, and a mule was once seen as radical. It was a radical idea. You ended slavery, and then we wanted to give each one slaves, forty acres and a buell reparations. Who had that idea? which political party offered up forty acres in the meal? Republicans Of course Republicans it was part of the radical Republicans agenda. And I, it did make it. And part of the problem was you had to take land of from southern land owners, and then redistributed to black folks, and the Constitution said you know if you take that land, they have to be a slave owners, but it happened to be confiscated. The land owners would have to be compensated very expensive prospect. So dingo through. But what you need to know, is it? That was a Republican. Idea Didn't come back into vogue until like around, I believe in nineteen sixties. Even you at one point Dr Martin Luther King Junior talking about it rejecting it. Throughout our history, our history, our shared history. Folks like Frederick Douglass. Booker T. Washington I don't think they were on board with it. It became a new thing in the seventies, an picked up steam steam in the nineteen eighties reparations. Some folks would argue. That when it comes to blacks and Welfare, the Great Society. There's your reparations trillions of dollars. That were poured into the black community to make up for past wrongs. Of course, it ended up doing more harm than good. -firmative action morphed into welfare. Then of course, this may have been. Evil of evil design from the very beginning, you had a president Johnson overheard, saying on the airplane if we give these inwards welfare w voting Democrat for the next two hundred years. When it's been about sixty. Black. Folks Been Voting Block A. And Block for for like what what? At least five decades. All throughout the early two thousands into the two teens. Reparations has been taken seriously yet has been studied as party. College Campuses Course Courses But not until six weeks ago. Did anyone ever think it would be taken serious and then? We'll actually it was. The was the floyd riot. As you started to see. Confederate statues tumbled pulled over by the mob. You start to see corporations run fear. Get behind black lives movement, which is a Marxist movement. As you saw your everybody to capitulate the redskins knowing changing their name, everything is falling over falling down all around. Should not have been a surprise. But now. We have a historic move. As North Carolina a city north, Carolina approves reparations. For his black residents. Asheville, North Carolina. In an extraordinary move! The Asheville City Council has apologized for the North North Carolina City historic role in slavery. Discrimination! And denial of basic liberties to black residents who? And they also voted. To provide reparations. To these black folks and to their descendants said. We are sorry. Sorry. I'm sorry. The seven vote came. On the night of July the fourteenth. Was In June sixteenth or June. Nineteen sorry June June nineteen. Eighteen. Quote. Hundreds of years of black blood spilled. That basically fills the cup. We drink from today. Wow, that was councilman Keith Young. He's one of two black folks on on on the body there. Simply isn't enough to remove status. Black people in this country are dealing with issues that are systematic in nature. The fact that the past seven Oh. was extraordinary. Maybe I should move to I should move there so I guess reparation money. No. I WANNA say to each of you simply and directly. I am deeply sorry. For my irresponsible and selfish behavior I engaged in. We'll listen era. Astronaut Carolina I humbly as a black man. Accept your apology. Where do I pick up my check? Where do pick my? Why don't look at me like that Ross? One. From you is that from North Carolina? Are you apologizing to me for? Are you paying me reparations? To apologize you for the old. Don't get all up and he don't. Don't don't hey. Hey, hey, don't do blaspheming here. Don't you blaspheming here? I got black privilege. We about to get paid up in here North Carolina. This is going to snowball across the country. com laughing and don't you? Don't you do it? You got nothing apologized before. Yes, you do because you white. I'm black. Plus you still my black. You know what else I want it back in the name of reparations. I want my black car back from you right now. It's absolutely ridiculous. Hundreds of years of black blood spilled that basically filled the cup the week drink from today. Holy couple sorrows Batman. That enough to remove statues. Black people in this country are delivers systematic systemic. Racism. Tell you what? There's a little hooked its whole thing. But this is unprecedented. Reparations is among us and I gotTa tell you. I got a big smile on my face. 'cause I'm Bob get paid a been here? The other shoe drops. At Ninety Eight. I Want my money. Encourage. You. Are Listening to the concerning the Circus Sir Your Ring Massive James I'm so excited. Reparations has finally come through. All Black folks have been waiting for. Happened out in. Carolina's Asheville North Carolina. Extraordinary move. The Asheville City Council has apologized for for North Carolina city's historic role in slavery, discrimination and denial of basic liberties, the black residents and they voted. unanimously. FOR REPARATIONS! Fowler I humbly accept your apology. For Slavery. And for the systemic system that you left in place. That has harmed all black people. I humbly accept your apology and now I just really WanNa know. Where's the check. Whereas to check how much how much do your own me? And where can I pick it up? Yeah! This took place two nights ago and Raleigh North Carolina. Await a minute the. that. They pass a resolution. It does not mandate direct payments. Instead. It will make investments in areas where black residents face disparities what? What's our? What's our take? X., hard shaft moment's notice and it's hard to describe. Steering you're stealing my money I wanted to go to hear these projects. Give it to me directly the rank payments. The resulting budgetary and a program. Programmatic. Priorities may include, but not be limited to increasing minority homeownership I own home i. don't know nothing will help me. Access to other affordable housing home affordable housing what? Increasing minority business ownership and career opportunities I kinda career. Strategies to grow equity and and generation of wealth I've got that taken care of that already. Closing the gaps and health. Care Education Employment and pay. With gaps. There are no gaps. I'm just fine. Thank you a neighborhood safety and fairness within criminal justice, not been arrested. What what is going this? Does that apply to me I? Just want the money. To see how this works. To people on the. On the on a council were black. The rest of them are just guilty. The resolution called the city to create the Community Reparations Commission inviting community groups and other local governments to join in. It will be a the commissioners. The commissioners job to make concrete recommendations for programs and resources to be are black. People out to be you know. Participate in say white folks. Councilwoman Shinyuka Smith who is black. said the council had gotten emails from those asking. Why should we pay for for what happened doing slavery? Slavery. Is The institution that serves as a starting point for the building of the strong economic floor for White America. While attempting to keep blacks subordinate forever to his progress, those is so. This makes me so angry. It makes me so angry because such as such bull. Is Popular now. This is what we this is. What is Basil is based on this notion. that. You'll be forever harmed because of something that happened a hundred fifty years ago. It based on this notion that there's no such thing as the the individual. This is based on collectivism. Either what if you wanted to be consistent? Have Reparations. But just take the money from Democrats because he democrats were the ones that were responsible for the institutional slavery in the first place. So get your. Money from Democrats, but if you're a Republican, you shouldn't have to pay anything. Why should Republicans pay for reparations? Where they were the party that free the slaves, and then were the parties that came up with forty acres and a mule, but the Democrats want to take it. Why are you holding? Republicans responsible. See. This is why this is so stupid. So emotional and so stupid and yet here it is. It was a joke for years, and now here you have a city out there in North Carolina. That's actually doing it. Will be successful. No. Because there's going to build resentment. Hell. I'm not even white I'm resent I'm resenting this. Maybe, because I'm a conservative. Check this check this out. This is one of the council. This is a really really good gesture as far as the foundation of what we can build. The potential. What can come out of this? Is. Amazing this could be just as the major as the constitution right. In increasing generational wealth, something to Americans were deprived up through economic regulatory discrimination should be the focus. You said that Once again. We have to do this for you. Black people because you can do it yourself because you were so deprived throughout. That wipes out black success in the fifty S. Forties Thirties twenties? That that wipes out black success. In in the elemental. PRE IMPULSE WAR civil war. Wipes it out, never existed. We've always been in changed needing the white people to lift US up. This is this is disgusting. This, is what happens when you? Put Democrats charge. For your back in change that's Joe Biden. Can Put y'all. Back in chains, and this is what you want to vote for well the now there they are putting you back and change north. Carolina are putting you in an economic. Chains. This morning I fifty. Five fifty boy I don avid 95.5 hd two. Thousand! You are listening. To the conservative circus. I am your remastered James here's. Dr Found G is in the news. But not in the way you think Dr Algae's in the news because I was absolutely right, and and my producer scoffed at me when I sat. At the media had turned doctor Foul Chee into a sex. Symbol. Still. Do Scoff at you for that. Why do you scoff at me when the evidence now's right in front of us? In Style magazine. Has Dr Fao Cheat Looking Off Suave and debonair. In the sunglasses sitting by a pool. But down shirt. Black slacks with a little bit of Cup Stars in the socks. y'All WanNa make him a Rockstar, not a sex symbol. He's a Rockstar, but too many women out there. Dr Foul Chee is the very essence of. Manliness. He's a man's man baby. Oh. Yeah Dr! Anthony. Well respected in the scientific community. Thirty Five Year career at the National Institute of Health. Expert. To six US presidents. HIV, AIDS epidemic. Given the Presidential Medal of freedom by President George W. Bush Got A big profile out there in in in style magazine. Dr Anthony Fauci and his wife Dr Christine Grady on Corona virus and Quarantine. How how have you been spending your time? Doctor Foul Cheat during the during the Corinthian or yeah. This of this piece was written by a Nora donal. CBS CBS. Evening News, it's A. Pace, it's a man pay. He's a man's man. I've known algae and his wife. For years as frequent guest in my husband's restaurants these days mostly for takeout. is also not uncommon to see them on their day. Their daily walks through the neighborhood. I caught up with Dr Fauci. Inducted Grady. On Tuesday to talk about with, he expects vaccine vaccine, his relationship with President trump, and how the two of them are staying healthy and grounded during the coronavirus pandemic. In in style magazine. What are we watching here? You mentioned who co wrote that by the way. Yeah Nora Nora O. Donnell all the scheme. It's all propaganda. Propaganda old sexy FAUCI. You see him leaning back in his chair legs cross sunglasses. Style. Doctor Fauci is the biggest mistake. This country ever had especially with this pandemic, wrong, wrong, wrong wrong wrong on almost every day. As we did, he said he would. He would step down if he was asked by from from trump for that's because trump kind of kicked them to the curb. Trump kind of put on time out. Trump said you know what he's Nice Guy and everything, but he has been wrong on a lot of stuff. You're a lot of stuff. Here Dr Foul Chief Doctor FAUCI has good bedside manner with the public, but he has been on the wrong side of everything. This was a bad piece. Actually Peter Navarro two species, easing a little bit of hot water with the White House because he wasn't authorized to write this. But doesn't mean it was not truthful. Let me see. when president trump aband- fights from China foul CI fought against the President's decision. That decision probably saved thousands of lives, maybe hundreds of thousands of lives. A fault she was on the side of the folks that called the president's moved xenophobic. When a memo came out about how this might be a deadly pandemic. Dr, FAO she said. There's nothing to worry about. He told the media that was nothing to worry about. WHAT THE CORONA VIRUS! Back in February. Will we had the fastest industrialization for for for in the healthcare sector developing mask stuff like that. You had to fall out there. Saying that you know what the China virus was a low risk. He was also the ones that we didn't need mass than we need them. Then we didn't need them. And now he's out there, saying that no, it's not about the mortality rate. There's things that we need to consider. So now, get this puff piece about the foul Chee. How are we spending his time lounging by the pool in his in his designer sunglasses propaganda. Propaganda but do a little recap of Secretary Betsy Devos and Dr Atlas says it is time to go back to school. Elrushbo, the Maha Rushie Rush Limbaugh today at Ted. On five fifty KFI and on FM at ninety five point five hd two. Run this. Serving Circus. Your bring master Jason Harrison fifty minutes. You're GONNA have a chance to win. One thousand dollars make sure that you are tuned in Dr Scott Atlas. He has been one of those doctors that I guess. The timing was perfect because he should have been banned. This guy has been launching on doctor FAUCI. He's been launching the CDC launching on the World Health. Organization he has the numbers. He's not being the motion unless you want to count frustration. He was on Fox News trying to lay out his reasoning based on fats based on data based on science why children should be going back to school while you are saying how important is to get kids back into school and do so safely. You are encouraging. That CDC guidance. Be followed that there's mass wearing social distancing in all of the precautions at the recommending not through children that would be irrational children. It doesn't matter if children get the disease, they don't get sick from this. And the the data shows that they do not significantly transmit to adult and this is. Not Not for children. Well I'm sure you're talking about the CDC guidelines of sending kids back to school, and not not for children's social distancing mass now for children. They don't have it getting. They don't pass it on. The the reporter there was having a hard time with that. With Dr was getting his. You know there's too much his hysteria over school openings. If you WanNa, follow the science. Then you should actually follow the. I mean the science show. Is that mask? Wearing stops the spread of the disease in. Don't we have a collective duty in this country to stop the spread? There's no rational reason or science to say that children transmit the disease significantly. In fact, there's data to the country either believe in the science, or you say you believe in science. At contrary to science, the science says, and this is data from Iceland Sweden Switzerland The Netherlands France the UK. Australia Canada all your land everywhere in Germany everywhere in the Western world has shown that children do not transmit significantly to adult. Even their own parents and the teachers are not not at higher risk of getting a disease like this disease from children. You either believe the science or not, you can't insist you believe in the science, and then act contrary to science, and by the way like I said. We are the only country not opening schools. This is absurd thousands. It's absurd. And that frustration you heard. Dr Atlases Voices. Also you know in a lot of our voices. It's absurd. The people who claimed that they follow science, the people who are insisting that we follow science are not following science. They're following their emotions. They're following their politics. Earlier in the show today we had the US Secretary of Education Betsy Devos, in the centering other conservative circus, talking about this school situation now none at all, in fact, quite the opposite, all of the medical i. Are Continuing to say that kids should be back in school. They should be back in their learning environments, and in fact for children's health, it's important for them to be in school for almost all of them to be in a classroom and with peers, and with our teachers, and as you know as a former teacher, there's nothing more important than that that report that were poor and that relationship and that and that you know what results in social emotional growth and development from being in school with. That was the secretary of Education. Betsy Devos get to hear the whole interview by simply downloading the free iheartradio APP it is. At the end of the day. Kathy Hoffman. governor Doug Ducey. The legislature. There is no reason for schools not to open up. There's no scientific reason for schools not to open up now if you WANNA talk about some political reasons or you, WanNa talk about fearmongering well. Yeah, then there's plenty of reasons right. But what we're watching here? We're on the verge of another catastrophe if The left continues to push. Get their way on these issues. The economy's not gonNA come back. The states are not going to open it back up and if there's anything that should be considered in the central job, it should be teaching right. To be on with Russell Hunter Five thirty this afternoon I want to encourage you guys to tune into that. I want to thank you very much for joining the conservative circuits today. We're going to be back tomorrow morning. At six a M. Oh. What Event Conservative lineup we have on five fifty KFI. Start Your Day every day with the conservative circus. We have a bill. O'Reilly up next in your chance to win a thousand dollars. You are listening to news talk five fifty. Kathleen
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"People not getting the people sick with covid. Not getting i mean. I haven't heard any store haven't seen heard the first single story about i mean. Is it just the fear of not going to work. Because if i didn't have to go to work. If i just said i was scared then i'd be scared for a long night. Don't have sick leave so that some do oh federally funded. Sick leave. Well oh restoring the penalties for not participating in in the fascist healthcare system and. I'm not using fascists hyperbolic. That's the definition of it and free covid nineteen tests. Well everybody wants covid nineteen tests. Excuse me mark That's not racist. So it's not fascist. Right right racist racist and fascist don't mean the same thing. I'll come up with some argument to make racist if that makes you feel better going. There's always one of my not. Everything i dislike is racist and everyone i dislike. Is hitler so. Cnn did a fact check here now. I didn't get a chance to read this fact check before the show. But let's go right here into cnn fact. Check on mask mandates. Now interestingly the story about biden's plan for mass mandates comes out after the cnn fact. Check for the mask mandates. So if a couple of days so we were young control a new campaign. Ads set to air on digital and nationally former vice president joe biden and then presumably the presumed president-elect lays out the top lines of his plan to tackle covid nineteen. Why didn't we do this before the election among the measures referenced in the thirty second ad are by says. It's a simple measure. Everyone needs to wear a mask in public while the words nationwide mask. Mandates appear on the screen implying that if elected biden would aim to mandate masks wearing across the nation that raises a perennial question of this campaign season. Can the president mandate that people around the country wear masks. Why didn't trump mandate this facts. I there appears to be no legal authority that would allow the. Us press into an act nationwide mask mandate there are exceptions where executives authority could allow for such a mandate such as federal property. Though a nationwide rule would almost certainly being challenged in court so no. The president cannot mandate masks despite the impression left by the graphic in the ad that says nationwide mass mandates biden's pass comments on the subject suggests that he'd take a narrow approach than attempting a nationwide mask mandate but yeah forgive him in in his own political ad for not being clear when asked to clarify that his plan for a mask mandate would entail. Excuse me what his plan would entail. The campaign pointed to biden's remarks on november. The twenty third where he said i. I'll go to every governor and urged them to mandate mask wearing in their states. And if they refuse. I'll go to the mayors and county executives and get local mask requirements in place nationwide so so his great plan as leader of the. Us military is to ask nicely. Well it's not asking nicely if you just try to get somebody else to The wheel stick for you. It's only a suggestion. The thing i hate the most about these mask. Mandates is it's not like they're using their cops and their courts to mandate it. They're using businesses and threatening their licensure if they don't enforce it themselves. They're turning everybody into unpaid enforcers for them. That's sick divvy. He's been a pretty good investment for free talk live their ad campaign started in september two thousand nineteen from mid march to mid july. The values soared by ten times. It's not too late davies. New wallet hasn't even released yet and other things are happening that i can't even say on the radio. If you want to invest and potentially do well go to divvy project dot org. I can tell you that f. t. l. is deepening. It's partnership with the guys from divvy project. Dot org past performance is not an indication of future profit. 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You're tuned to the newest episode of free. Talk live presented by seiko. Cei- visit us online at freetalklive dot com. Live the number eight five five four five zero three seven three three fifty five four fifty free. You can call in and talk about whatever you want here on free. Talk live mark with you. Big lows mountainair and melanie one of the The big things that the democrats were pounding home is that response. The trump is responsible for killing two hundred thousand. Americans like over and over and over again. Joe biden killed away more people than that he signed off. He literally signed off on the drug war. Yes he was one of the sponsors of what he called ninety four crime bill. One thousand nine hundred four crime bill where he called the young black men superpredators. Hillary clinton called them that he might have called them that too. Oh i don't know yeah nice. Nice stuff Here what he's suggesting is the way he would handle. The pandemic remember joe biden would have handled the pandemic better than donald. Trump is the suggestion and the the statement is that he would mandatory masks paid sick. Leave restoring which i mean. Isn't that what we got with the unemployment extra six hundred dollars a week thing restoring obamacare and free covid nineteen tests. Look i'm not saying that. Free covid. nineteen tests isn't a pretty good use of federal money. If you're going to spend the federal money. I mean like there. They were definitely going to pass the stimulus so You know free covid. nineteen tests. Sure that's fine. But i mean anybody who wants to covid nineteen tests now. I don't know what the the payment angle is. But you can get one if you want to get one. And that's the mass may day you can even do. The mask mandate. We're looking at the cnn fact. Check here well. You're not allowed to doesn't mean it doesn't mean he won't do. It wouldn't even get off the starting line. Well i mean what you can do as president is say. I am commanding you to do this now. You may not have the power to do that but that doesn't mean it won't happen. He doesn't have his own police force to speak of not one that is integrated into cities across america. Okay so how's he going to enforce it same way that all of the governors have done this have to enforce it. You just have to tell people to do it. I understand you could just tell people to do it. It works a lot. Better in places other than new hampshire where people are like. What are you gonna do about. It does not have mask mandates right like not all of them and not like commercial like inside and outside all the time and this is honestly major blind spot for libertarians. As we look at these ridiculous things and go well wait. A second is this being enforced. Are they doing anything about this. Most people don't look at it that way at all what they do is they say big daddy. Government told me to do something. I'm going to do it. And so when if you're in a state that doesn't have a mask mandate and joe biden says. There's a mask mandate and the level of compliance level of the people who are complying. You're gonna say to some extent to the people are not complying. what are you doing. Some of those people are going to say. I'm not obeying. Because i don't feel like it. Yeah that's like one percent honestly. I mean seriously. If if joe biden has spread though if joe biden on on january twentieth gets on national television and commands every business across the country not to serve anyone who isn't in a mask. Now that's almost all of them are going to do exactly that even if there is new answer to and they respond to threats not well. I don't think that. I think that that's a better system than just sort of saying you know just going to. Businesses is a better system because the businesses will comply out of fear even if if there's a penalty attached but no if there if there isn't a penalty attached still skulk about well and how many governors do you think it Going to be like no. I'm not going to make a statewide damn. Are you kidding me. I mean every republican governor out there. We're their chops. Is gonna get a little bit of a press by saying f you. Joe stop doing unconstitutional things. This is the united states meaning that the states have the power not the federal government. You don't have any legal standing and you're obviously out of your old demented mind saying this. I think that's naively optimistic about the state of this nation. I think that the governor of south that is the convenient political thing to do. It's not because it's the right thing to do. It's because the constitution applies to democrats when republicans are talking. Okay so i. I'd like to point out that the republicans have taken no stance in the anti mask side on this. There are plenty of republican. Governors didn't tell them to plenty of republican governors have not made mask mandates and that's taking a stance and win the president comes down and says the governor's don't work for the president. The president works for the governor's and they're going to remind him of that. I would presume if they don't they're fools. I mean yes. It's a it. Look if whatever governor. I'm just thinking of the governor of south dakota camera name off the top of my head. But she's gotten a lot of mileage out of this whole cova thing because she refuses to make a mask mandate that lady can simply tell. Tell them to stick it in this pipe and smoke it and then her her whole her political ticket goes up. She might be the next Republican female president except that that's going to make the entire press turn owner. The oppresses turned out republicans. Long ago they suck well and see. That's the thing it's not just a it's not just the press even Most of the republicans are going to tout that line of no. It's for our safety. That we must do the mask. Mandate i don't have obama biden. Is the one telling them to do that now. That's not how politics works here. In america i get it. the president. The office of the presidency has a lot of power. But i don't think it has that kind of power. Let's go to david calling him from new mexico. David you're on free. Talk live calling about Analysis of legal stuff but First of all Yeah you're going to have to stand up to this guy. Otherwise you're gonna get jacked around like that biden and everybody else's behind the puppet the biden yeah and I lost my train of thought on that one anyway. So let me go the other direction. The yesterday and only mark was present. Yesterday when i when i had stated about And this is public record. You can type. You can see it on your screen right in front of us if if you want to so And in the in the spirit of jet who your regular caller who calls in and re and asks if people if they will stop calling the government the government and use proper nouns for things that are that are named. and so. I'm going to do that. And you can read along in the court record if you want to so this. This gentleman Stepparent to children. Kurt oden illitch e. l. i. C. h. who's got felony charges against him for Attempting to for aggravated battery meaning beating the crap out of and attempting to rape The and i don't really care what happens to her but i care that he did this to the mother of my children when my children were in the home and one of my children David the elder of the two David paisley intervened in some sort came into the Contact with mr illitch after immediately after the event. And there's a chart and there's a charge against illitch for battery and assault against my son. So that was. That was a couple of questions david. You've called in about this issue multiple times and not just this particular thing but sort of throughout the years and So i have some familiarity with the case. Wasn't there a adoption process where your children are going to get out what happened. Yeah and that's and that's and that's why. I'm that's what i'm expanding into the because connecting the dots so somebody's not it did and i got it reverse. There was a kangaroo. Yeah this was years ago. And there was a kangaroo court where i was railroaded and the and and lawyers review this. Say the same thing. It's not just me saying it. But i was railroaded and there and there was a they had a trial. They put me on trial as the parents of my children. Because kurt oden illeg of came up with the hundred and thirty dollars filing fee by in the state of new mexico. Anybody can pay the filing fee and file david electric go. But what's the. 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They seem to be able to come up with here. Is mandatory masks. Paid sick leave restoring obamacare which there's nothing obamacare hasn't gone away. There's the one thing that's changed. The obamacare is is that there was a fine for not having participating in the government's mandatory insurance program. the us government's mandatory insurance tax. I should call it a program. I should call it a tax like The chief justice do so if you're in the income bracket where you can get that zero to one hundred to two hundred dollar policy. You could still do that. That hasn't changed right. If you're in the income bracket where you were policy would have been eight hundred dollars a month for the sixty forty split right. You just don't have to do that now. Right and without you don't have to get fined for it and by the way there's all kinds of health sharing programs out there they get you out of You know the the mandate and those kind of things and free covid nineteen tests is the other thing they're offering but i'm focusing on this mandatory mask situation biden hasn't been entirely clear on what he means. When he says mandatory mask mandate nationwide mass mandate. But basically that's unconstitutional because that's protected us from so much. Let's talk about past pandemics though even though state wide or local. Mandates this is from cnn could spawn lawsuits. Legal precedent is in their favor statewide and local mandates during the eighteen. One thousand nine hundred nine thousand nine hundred and flu pandemic the supreme court which would call the spanish flu anymore. Because that's bad. The supreme court of arizona ruled that the emergency calls in to life the necessity to exercise the power to protect the public health The ruling determined that in the case of emergency like the flu pandemic the city of globes board of health had the authority to make and enforce any rules necessary to prevent the spread of the disease including a quarantine similar to the shelter in place order some of the states imposed during the coronavirus pandemic that was local in one thousand. Nine five the. Us supreme court weighed in amidst a smallpox outbreak. In jacobson v massachusetts supreme court ruled a community has the right to protect itself against a pandemic of disease which threatens the safety of its members which allowed local authorities to mandate the smallpox vaccination and find those who refuse so on a local level. They could mandate a vaccine. Congress could also incentivize states to enact mask mandates by making the receipt of certain federal funds conditional upon doing so. This is what. I talked about earlier in the shell. However blackman this is the lawyer here cautions they. Congressional mandate should could be subject to constitutional review citing the precedent of obamacare. So that means not only. Can't the president just hand out a an executive order. Saying that there'd be a mask mandate but the congress likely couldn't get away with it either even if congress quoting here this Blackville even if congress enacted a statute that said. Everyone must wear a mask. I don't think that the statute would be constitutional. I don't think congress has the power to force people to wear masks anywhere at any point in any time. Obviously you can do in federal buildings and maybe even airplanes and stuff like that blackman said that we have the obamacare case from a couple of years ago that case held the people can't be forced to buy insurance and i think a similar in a similar world. People can't be forced to put on a mask on their face by the federal government states can but not the federal government doesn't follow. Why not because. That's not how it works. Well the federal government there's the tenth amendment to the constitution. That says that any powers not really like it's in there but he's talking about supreme court case law in there's not a amendment and supreme court gala the tenth amendment has been basically whittled down to nothing. What you're saying not basically it's gone okay. Well the in order to pass the obamacare was cares to mckay. Rolling said that congress cannot mandate buying insurance. They cannot cannot mandate commerce. They cannot get you under the commerce clause by mandating you to participate in interstate commerce right which is accurate but if you look at his attacks than it was acceptable and it was a tax. It's a tax and republicans. Get mad at me for this but it is as much a tax as the rest of the irs. code is. that's fine. I don't know i'm not here to to make any rules. But a man mandating a mask is an attacks like it would be very difficult thing today but there's completely different rules for general criminal law. Which was would this would be and income tax rules. These two cases have nothing to do with each other. They have I think that the parallel that's being drawn here is that the federal government doesn't have the power because it doesn't have the power whereas the states do and the states it the tenth amendment. Says you say. I know that the supreme court that doesn't respect the ten minute but the tenth amendment says that any power is not listed in this constitution or whatever basically are remanded back to the state and the people respectively meaning that the states basically have all the powers that the states have jen role prosecuting in criminal taxing powers. They can do almost whatever they want. They don't have to come up with a reason for it like congress. Would i think congress could very easily get this under the interstate. Commerce clause which has now been reduced to the interstate clause. They kind of commerce part. Everything's declare to be commerce now. I don't think they could have a hell of a time with it but you know now then kind of notwithstanding the new changes to the court which is what really matters based on case law. I don't think this is going to be a problem for them. Let's go to mandy calling in from tennessee mandy. You're on free. Talk live mandy. What's on your mind. Oh my goodness there's nothing is smart as what you guys are talking about right now. Okay i just i. I'm sitting here with a friend of mine who's opened me up to tv. And what is the. What is the studio eighty. Four twenty four l. r. n. is what we're watching right now around. Yeah well how does one find float so that You know. I mean i know you can see a video at chat dot freetalklive dot com. But i'm not familiar with how to see it on float. Do you see it on. Smoke marks dot tv float dot and then search for free talk live. Yeah will offer oreo eighty four. Twenty four is l. Rn is is the channel that we're watching right now. What eighty four twenty four means that he is the Is the official internet affiliate of talk life. Now i see so. It's somebody putting up. Well yes one of the nice things about free talk live is we. Let anybody take in do with as they as they like You know we're trying to spread the message so many thanks for the call it. We're all giving you a big wave here from the studio. Thank you mandy. Okay appreciate the call. Eight five five four five zero three seven three three so i guess that's about it. I think that biden's jumping the gun. Bit talking about mandatory masks here in by talking about any mandate seeing his how he doesn't hold office right now right. I wonder about that office. I wonder how many people were regretting their vote. After hearing a mandatory mask thing yeah a lot of the. I'm a republican. But i'm a republican. I hate this one people. Yeah this is not put off. Remember if you want to kill grandma said well. I don't want masks and my mother who is Certainly grandma said that you know she. She feels like she wants to live her life life life wear. She can't touch her grandkid and where her son will give her. A hug and kiss isn't a life worth living by her standards. And i think a lot of i. I personally believe a lot of people in this country separated themselves from their family for a long time and wore these masks and separated themselves from humanity for so long because they believe that somehow magically it would get joe biden elected and i guess they're not wrong. You know i mean it was a fifty fifty shot one of these guys. All the dnc went into hiding and left society voluntarily. That's when people decided that might be okay to have a dnc president. I think that yeah less exposure to democrats There's a better chance to democrats get elected. Sure i you know again. I don't wanna make it seem like i'm in favor of the republicans terribly or anything like that. But yeah i mean. I think the democrats have really put up some really crappy choices recently but i just want to remind everyone out there to keep their wits about them. Things are very strange right now but it's all done for your reaction. 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Not going to buy. But i do like that. Let's go to private by a private city and chief recognizance officer. So there you go. You can call in talk about whatever you want to talk about here on the airwaves. I have an inkling that it might be about the election guessing. There was an election there right. I bet sure that it's over like was suggested in the past. No no i mean we had our election and then they released the vaccine and we all get to go back to normal. The wouldn't that be nice. The i think that a couple of conclusions. I think we can definitely say about. The election are a pollsters. Don't know what the f. They're talking about all right like end of story. They don't know. I mean this wasn't for years of hillary. They don't usually need to call elections. That are this close though. That's their job. I mean like they were calling it and but they weren't calling it close. It wasn't close in the polls right. They were saying biden by you know. In some cases they were off by double digits in points and they've had plenty of time the pre election. Okay not the not. The post-election rights is people. is that our election. Process is broken. And if you like you do one one. Election that sorta counts. People expect results in the evening on one election per year per every four years. Excuse me and you can't deliver that then y- there's something wrong. I mean what. American idol can count this many votes in seconds. How many people are double triple a hundred times voting and american idol quality standards. I don't know that that's a fair comparison. I mean send. I if you send out all of these absentee ballots to everyone. Who's on who's on the register. How many people double and triple voted this time right. That's the thing is is that. What evidence do we have that. Our voting system has caught one. Single bad vote. i mean we. As as the american people remember the story. We got civics class was. This is our government. We are the people. We are the government. Well as the government. The government isn't my my employees are telling me anything about quality control. So i'm not convinced that federal elections or real at all but the federal government at least does things that make it look like they have some sort of deterrent and bore against cheating whether it's a highly effective or not and whether or not they investigate after the fact whereas american idol was just like. Hey you got limited. Texting have had it right. American idol doesn't care whether you'd vote twice and but it would take somebody who's very thoroughly invested in their person whomever singer their favourite to get three phones and do the texting. Maybe that's how it should work. If you care the most you're gonna get right. There's a question that was actually part of the filtration process of having to show up at the polls you had to a have nothing better to do and or be care enough to actually get out. Yeah if you can't get yourself to the polls on you you're one of the first people that don't don't need a vote. I like the libertarian solution. That you must write the name like they can tell you what offices are open but you must write the name of your candidate out. That's the libertarian solutions. I it's a libertarian. Solution to the problem. So i don't know how that's in any way it's gonna go. Does it does filter from people who's running and so it's a filtration system for those that can't spell someone's name and those that don't know who's running for the position just to make an argument against that for absolutely no reason what introduced me to the fact that other ultimately to the alpay was that i walked in. The news had told me a couple months before i turned eighteen that there were two people running and i walked in. There is like fifteen people voting w. tfc cnn and fox. And whoever it wasn't the time i'm gonna go look these people up real hard and then spent the next six years as i remember asking the question. Wait how many communist parties to we have our sworn enemy the american communist. We're the communists of america and our sworn enemy. The american communist party hold on. There's the communist party. The socialist party the socialist workers to freight. There's plenty of that now. Granted this was in colorado. So you know things. Aren't that way everywhere. But yeah it was definitely surprised. At how many parties there were the first time i voted. Imagine for a second. Obviously it wouldn't have fixed anything for this particular precedent presidential race but this is the only race that went on. Lots of them went on. I mean they're both candidates. Got a lot of airtime. Both of the major party. Candidates got a lot of airtime and you can. They're five letters spelling them. Isn't that difficult. However there were plenty of people lots of people who voted for just party line voting for the democrats or i'm just voting for the republicans and as far as i'm concerned they shouldn't be voting. If you don't know enough to know the name of the candidate who's running for the office. I've got a phone. Your pocket you. Just bring a sticky note with you. Yeah you could look it up if you really wanted to but to me. I think that that's a solution that is better than you can't get in there and spell biden then you don't need to be in charge of anything and i wouldn't even be that hard on a person you know like if you spelled we'll hold on so i'm dyslexic do get to have someone come into the voting booth with me. I'm not here trying to make the world easier with people for people with disabilities. Sorry i've known. I've known a lot of truly brilliant dyslexic people. Thank you since this is a election and not a filtering to a single person. That doesn't matter what matters is what the majority even if it's fifty percent plus one of that population is going to do okay. I mean it's true. All i'm saying is is that You know it's gonna cut out the low information voters. Something that irritates me in. This world is low information voters. I just hate the idea that they're going in. And well i've got a story and it's short enough for this. I was at a In nashua at a liberty forum. There i was in the jacuzzi. Another lady came into the jacuzzi lady came into the jacuzzi Who was not related at all. We she asked what was going on At the place. And what's going on here. I talked about the libertarian event. And she for whatever reason related this story to me. She worked at a home for the mentally disabled. Or something i. I'm not exactly sure what we What terminology we use now. But she doesn't matter. It'll be different next week right. And what she said was that she would take them in the van on election day to go vote and she would tell them to vote democrat and i said about. How many do you take regularly. I mean surely there's some of them you can't take about fifteen so all i could do is run through my mind. The fifteen most brilliant. People that i know in the state of new hampshire and realized that their votes are xed out every time by this lady who gives. Who takes these guys. These these these people from the home to go vote and then gives them ice cream afterwards. So you know this is kind of your system where the most brilliant people that you have. Votes are cancelled out by people who can't do have life skills to take care of themselves. It's important to remember where democracy originates and. That's a and that is the fact that you can gather a group of people and it really doesn't matter. How informed are intelligent. They are but they will punch you and if you have twice as many people as the other guy you will win that fight yet. So democracy is a way to prevent violence. If you just think about it that way yeah well. Maybe we should warn fifty percent plus one you might look at a mob rule. It'd be like i don't want to risk it. I would like to see larger percentage than fifty fifty personally but when it comes to electing politicians it makes sense. What do you think eight five five four five zero three seven three three freetalklive news from news dot bitcoin dot com a one million ounce gold find in russia raises questions if bitcoin is more rare than gold. The bitcoin market is expected to be volatile until the end of the year study shows that half of us investors interested in adding bitcoin to their portfolio. 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Is the winner. this is the same. Yes but they did that before. They had like ten percent of the votes. Didn't they well in some in some jurisdictions that's necessarily but the the media has been declaring long before you could tell. Yeah i mean so things are different than they are with gore now. But there's some interesting questions out there in. The trump campaign is not known for being a bunch of shrinking violets when it comes to law suits so expect there to be as many lawsuits as possible. Expect them to be decided. Very quickly because The law says that we swear somebody in on january twentieth and anything that happens before that of course. There's the electoral college. And you know these sorts of things. So what are you guys say. I'm saying the same thing that i said before the election we are a we are not going to know when when it happens and be will be lucky if we get it done in time and see we will go to the courts on this thing came. So you're not even saying the idea whether it's gonna be biden's trump in the long run and get a gas. I'm not entirely certain that we won't have a civil war over this to be perfectly honest. All right melanie. It's like what a series is ending. And usually you can predict. It'll be like they're going to do this. And this and this and this could you could just write the next episode before it happens and match it up not so ending america or what but doing that. We're like oh there's a portal in the bathroom. Now this was sitcom. And i don't know why let's do time travel. Yeah i so. I in in my role here on free talk live the main founding hosts and that kind of thing i've found it's easiest to approach the world as the world is delivered to us through the media right so you know you can believe whatever you want about building seven that fell on nine eleven however i kind of have to operate in the world where it is not generally accepted that that is so you know. I don't do that. The conspiracy show. I do the just sort of interpreting reading the news and interpreting. It from a libertarian standpoint idea. So i think you're conspiracy as well. You might be one of those mainstream conspiracy theorists that leaves in the whole nineteen hijackers conspiracy. But you know they conspire did they. Not kind of the point. That's it so. I i tend to think that biden will be is is the president-elect. I'm amused at the notion. That trump may throw some more Cul trump's in the in the roadway. What do you call them. Besides traps like the little spiky things that have like four spikes and that that is trump retirement. Yeah and you know spikes called the road spikes your call caused the The the biden train to to fear off into the ditch. I'm wondering when exactly they will declare biden incompetent and put commandant komo cobbola in charge. I'm not sure. But i tend to think that's going to happen. It's twenty first. Perhaps as early as january twenty first perhaps earlier if once. Because isn't that so. What would happen if if he is elected which he was elected. It's just a matter of or they to that or not. Then if he ceases to legally exists whether that's through death competency before then then she gets to be president right no. It's not nearly as clear as that so probably would be my answer to the question but at this point he has the election has even been certified secondly but not not if he wants it's finalized so what is today but if he comes in combination after the supreme court's like biden's president. I have no evidence that that he is not competent today. That's fine as long as he's not declared cleared not as if he's declared incompetent after the electoral college meets and votes itself. Because remember. this wasn't an election for president. This was an election for electors for president. And i would like to know if we're going to get an additional Ron paul vote this time like we did last time mean. Most people don't know that but last time we had a What they call a faithless elector. In spite of the fact that ron paul hadn't been running in years Cast his vote for ron. Paul might as well. You know they all do that. They're going to kill him. So whoever wins is going to win and as i understand it in some states i got corrected on this the other night on the air some states. It's against the law for them to be faithless elector and other states. it's just fine There's they shouldn't be but there's no penalty meaning that whatever you want so i you know those are kind of some of my predictions as far as it goes and we'll see how it it all happens by. I'm not sure what kind of tricks they have coming in store. I mean are we going to find like a semi full of Of mayland trump votes. Or some you know crazy. Weirdness like that who knows republicans actually show up to the polls. They don't just sit around and have ballot parties. Well yeah. I don't know what's going to happen but i can tell you that there are people dancing in the street sharing bottles of champagne out of the bottle so suddenly goes gone You know french kissing strangers and white. I'm not kidding you. I am not kidding. You like you know. These people have no idea what has happened in this election other than they beat. Orange hitler. eight five five four five zero three seven three three eight fifty five four hundred fifty free here on free talk live free. Freedom is the called the untamed scotsman and all others wanna feel the wind under their kilts at free talk live. We love the breezy swinging. Feeling that only kilt from sport killed can give. We teamed up with sport killed to let you experience there. 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And that's why today we continue with the brand new series called rethinking your life in these lessons past rick shares the nine biblical pillars. We need to reshape our minds so that we can become more like jesus christ in just a moment. We're going to tell you how you can get a copy of this year's brand new daily hope advent calendar. It's beautiful just go to pastor rick dot com to find out more or text the word daily two eight hundred six hundred five thousand four. That's pastor rick dot com or the word daily two eight hundred six hundred five thousand four right. Now here's pastor. Rick with part three of a message called why you need to think about what you think about you. Know what's amazing to me. What's crazy as it even when you identify. You're being tempted by something and you know the lie. You know the lie about the temptation that. I'll be happier if i do this. You already know it. And you know there's a hook beneath the bait but we still keep nibbling why because of the lie because we buy the lie. That's the deception. I can keep nibbling. And it won't hurt me. I won't get hooked. Who you kidding. Same people for thousands of years. But i can handle it. I'm an adult. I that's the line. That's the deception that you won't get hurt all right. Let's go to the next pillar number six by the way. Why is it so hard when you know what the hook is. You know what the bait is. And he's still start giving into it because you're in a battle and you're fighting against spiritual power so you're not just fighting against another human being their spiritual powers that are powerful more powerful than you coming against you and that leads us to number six six pillar and pastor. Anthony is gonna come and talk about this. Here's the sixth pillar and unseen war is going on in and for my mind. An unseen war is going on in and for my in my mind. This is an invisible war but it's a real war. It's a brutal war in. It's a constant war. Anthony come and talk about it. So i hate to be the bear bad news but whether you realize it or not. You're in a war and you have an enemy. That's going after your mind every day. Too many christians we kind of have this cavalier approach to our walk with jesus we wake up every day and we put on our spiritual flip flops in swimsuits and we go on this casual stroll on the deck of this cruise ship to heaven. I'm sorry to break the bad news to you. But christianity is not a cruise ship. It's a battleship. We're at war and we have an enemy and the enemy is saying and somehow we just became so casual in this relationship. This walk and we forget that we have enemy. That's trying to destroy. You makes me remember this store. This is a true story that i saw on national geographic. This lady bought a bogus stricter and she took the bulk of stricter into the vet because she thought it was sick because they stopped eating food for a long period of time and so she brought it in and the doctor start examining started asking questions. So where does the snake sleep. Where do you put the tank that the snake sleeps in my bedroom. He's like okay bedroom. Do you ever take the snake and play with it. Oh all the time. Oh i love betsy the boa she you know i take her out. We play all the time. She loves playing with me. In fact i sleep with her. Sometimes she sleeps. She loves she's so cuddly sleeping with their use. Sleep with your snake. Okay this might be a weird question but have you ever walked. Woke up in the middle of the night and the snake was stretched out next to you. Yes that happened. The other night. I woke up. The snake was like stressed up right beside me. I thought it was trying to cuddle. Said okay something you need to learn about a boa one. They starve themselves when they find a prey. That's bigger than them that they want to eat. The second thing that you need about bose. Is they stretch their body so they can handle meals that are bigger than them so the good news is you're bowl is sick. The fact is perfectly fine. The bad news is your bowl is preparing to each. You is trying to and we forget like a snake is a snake it come on. Who puts a snake in their bed. But we all do because we see how cute and cuddly. And it's like oh my pet snake and we forget it's a snake snake's wage. You the devil the devil. He's trying to destroy you. That's my state impression. He's trying to restore your relationships. He's trying to destroy your marriage. He's trying to destroy your influence. Your witness students. He's trying to ensure your future. He doesn't want you to grow up and do something great for god. He's trying to show you right now as a student as a kid and we forget that we have this enemy that wants to destroy us but the devil is so slick he smooth he's really slick with his attacks like that. We're just watching. Tv ads and in fact he's like sending these missiles of seduction. We think we're just looking at facebook and instagram. And he's actually throwing grenades of envy and jealousy and comparison think. We're just watching the news. That's what we do every night. We just watched the news. He's actually sending sneaking these torpedoes of fear in your life. He's so smooth. He so smith he has this all on assaults for your mind and we don't even realize it but not only. Is there a war around us for our mind. But there's actually a war in us in our mind. Look at this verse. That paul's talks about an romans. The seven chapter paul writes. This is this. It seems to be a fact of life. That while i want to do what is right. I never do what is wrong i want to do. God's will so as far as a minute nature is concerned but there's something else deep within me that is at war with my mind and it wins the fight that makes me a slave to the. That's inside me in my mind. I wanna be got serving. But instead i find myself still enslaved to sin see. We all relate to this. We want to do the right thing. But somehow the the war in his wins the sin in us so controls us we know is wrong to cheat on a test but we gotta get that as we was wrong to. Steamroller co workers. But i gotta get that promotion we know is the yell at our wife. I don't really like her right now. But yet the enemy just uses these things and in our mind we actually lose control to the seine and some of you probably are like man. This is depressing. This is like terrible news. I told you. Bear bad news tonight. But i also have good news. And here's the good news. God has given you everything you need to overcome the enemy in this war which brings us to the seventh pillar of rethinking our my life seven. Write this down to win the battle in and four my mind. I must have god's spirit and god's word inside me those. Join rick as closes out this message if i depend on my own personal power and energy handle this. I'm gonna lose because i don't. I'm never going to win this war. On my own strength the enemies to powerful you actually have three enemies. The world the flesh and the devil. You have the world around you. Culture is fighting you. it doesn't wanna make you better wants to tear you down the world around you. You have your old son nature inside you and you have satan against you. That's the unholy trinity the world of flesh and the devil and all three of those. When they pile up against you. You are not strong enough to handle them by yourself so you need what anthony just said. You need to key weapons to win the battle in my mind and for my mind i must have two things. God's spirit in me. And i must have god's word in me. I noticed what the bible says. Second corinthians chapter ten versus three to five while we live in the world. We don't fight the same way. The world does okay. How does the world fight with politics. That's not our battle. We don't fight the same way the world does we fight with god's weapons not worldly once our weapons have god's power god's power to demolish the enemies strong places. He's talking about the mental strongholds in your mind. Those places that just won't let go those areas of hurt of pain of habit in your mind. He's the devil has strongholds in your mind. He says we have weapons. Of god's power to demonisation demolished the enemy strong places. We can knock down all the worldly arguments and all the prideful defenses that set themselves up talking about in our minds against the knowledge of god and in this war. We capture every rebel thought. And we make give up and we obey christ make that thought obey christ. Now i want you to this a very powerful passage. We'll come back to it and other weeks. But i want you noticed several things just in this introduction. I it says the enemies strong places. What's he talking about there. That's a mental block. It's a lie that you believe it's a false. Thank you believe about yourself a false thing. You believe about the world of false thing you believe about god about your past about your president about your future about your worth a lot of things you believe. That just aren't true and those are strongholds. Their mental blocks in your mind can be a worldview materialism thank works are hedonism secularism or it can be personal attitude like worry or envy could be. Resentment could be pride. Could be self pity. So those are those things get built up in your mind and then it says that in our minds. We have rebel thoughts. Circle bat rebel. We capture every rebel thought. Have you noticed that your mind often rebels. It doesn't always do what you tell it to do. It doesn't always obey you. Sometimes your mind has a mind of. It's own sometimes. Your thoughts just go out hayward and haywire and they go off in directions. That i don't intend. Have you ever had this. When i need to pray my thoughts stray away. That ever happened. Anybody they rebel. They don't wanna pray. When i wanna pray my thoughts straightaway want tunder on the word. I want to ponder my thoughts to wonder they wanna go off the reservation. They want to go off the rain off the ranch. They wanna do whatever they can do. They are rebel thoughts and it says notice. The fresh we capture them. Doesn't mean that literally. Greek word there which means multi so literally means we their prisoners of war. We take our thoughts prisoner. We can't we conquer them. We bring them under control. We're going to talk about how you do that. How do you bring your wild thoughts under control and it says we make it. We make our thoughts. Give up we bring them in some submission who pakoa in greek. We bring them into submission. How in the world do you do that. How do you make your mind mind. How do you do that well. We're going to talk about the details in this series. But today i just want to mention to weapons when anthony just said the holy spirit and the word of god the bible. These are two weapons. You have to make your mind mind. I god spirit inside of you because without him you're defenseless. You can't control your mind if you wanna do. It's got a mind of its own romans. Eight verse six says this. If you're sinful nature controls your mind. There's death in other words. It's a dead end. it's go nowhere but the holy spirit controls your mind. There is life and peace. This is why you need jesus in your life because without holy spirit inside you without god's spirit of love inside your you're powerless troll the rogue mind that you have your sinful nature controls your mind. It's going lead to all the wrong places. So i need god's spirit in me and the second thing i need is the word of god. The bible says in john eight thirty two. Jesus says this. If you learn and obey my word you will be my disciple. Then you will know the truth and the truth will set you free. Isn't it interesting how the world loves that second part. But don doesn't like the first you could go to college and university campuses. All around the world and see plastered on buildings. The truth will set you free. What they don't put forward. Jesus it's my word. If you continue in my word you listen to you. Live in you. Do you practice my work. And then you know the truth and the choose those such free. We want the truth. Without god's truth god is the source of all truth and so you can't separate verse thirty one in verse thirty two. There is no freedom without truth but there is no truth. With god's word that truth is right here in this book. God's given it to us and he said well. I don't want that then. You don't want the truth because they i love about the bible is always tells the truth. And when it tells about the good sides of guy tells about the downsides to it you know there's more murder and more rape and incest and betrayal and like hollywood movies through the whole old testament. What because the bible always tells the truth. This were a human book. It wouldn't tell you the downsides of guys it would give you this you know ghazi hollywood thing the the star who never does anything wrong so we need god's spirit and we need the truth in our lives god's word obeyed the truth god's book the bible is called the the sword of the lord. This is one of our tools. It's a sword that we use and we'll spend a lot on how to time on how to use this weapon k. Number eight the as pillar in re thinking my life it's time to rethink your life pillar in thinking. My life is this. My goal is to learn to think. Like jesus my goal in all of what we're doing here and thinking about what you're thinking about is to learn to think like jesus. He's the model. Jesus is the model for healthy thinking for happy thinking for holy thinking for holistic whole thinking he is the model. There's nobody is a better model for healthy thinking than jesus christ now. Here's the good news. Jesus christ understands all the mental problems that you have. He understands all of the fears all of the deceptions. All of the difficulties all of the barriers. All the blind spots we have he you know why because he's been there. He came to earth and lived. Lived here the bible says in first. Peter chapter four verse one since jesus went through everything. You're going through by the way and more learn to think like him. It's not like he we. He's in think. Like jesus never had a problem. Never was stressed. Never was discouraged. Never had conflict never had people against him never had enemies now he said since jesus went through everything you're going through and more learn to think like him philippians two five your thoughts and your attitudes must be the same as that of jesus. Christ this is passed a daily ho-. We're so happy that you've chosen to study along with us today. If you would like to receive rix free daily devotional just to pass rick dot com and sign up right now. Rick will be backed close out our time today. But i fall is here and that means christmas is right the corner. That's why we wanted to let you know that. Pastor rick and his wife kay created a brand new advent calendar was specially commissioned custom artwork. It's beautiful right now. 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I hope it will help you. Really get ready for celebrating the birth of jesus. It's an advent calendar a calendar of preparation and each day on this calendar. You'll open one bible verse and then you just turn to the corresponding page and a companion book that we've put together and you read through the very short spiritual growth devotional not only takes a couple of minutes to read the bible verse and the devotional. But it's going prepare your heart for the coming of christ at christmas. My hope is that this resource this advent calendar will help you spend the holiday expressing your gratitude to god worshipping instead of worrying and taking things off your schedule so you can appreciate the true meaning of christmas. Don't want you to miss the miracle of jesus this christmas. You wanna get the all new daily hope advent calendar devotional booklet in your hands now to start using it on december first. 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Dr chuck mesler connecting the bible to your life and the world around you in today's study. Dr moseley completes his teaching on the book of second corinthians chapters three and four species involved they tell us why are we so concerned about the extension of the species. Aren't they more of them. Coming involving evolving where where the new ones and why are we so concerned about. Subtle changes with the ozone layer one tenth of one percent change causes cosmic doom really. It was such a delicate balance of nature who balance it in the first place and who's maintaining the balance today balance implies design and the more delicate balance a more convincing. That design is one part in a million change. It all falls apart really wanna eloquent. Testimony of design balance implies design design implies a designer designer implies an ultimate purpose in purpose implies responsibility. Who that's the rub. That's really what it's all about. You know it's fascinating to notice what people adopt. After rejecting the truth. You find some rejected truth as we understand. What's fascinating is where they go next. Watch the bizarre views of panthers in the new age or the paranormal assumptions which replace biblical truth the stuff that people embraces just humorous. Really did you realize the bible has been designed to Anticipate hostile jimmy. If you're a communications engineer and you have a certain bandwidth to us and you're expecting someone to jam that what you do. You take your message and spread it on the table spectrum. It's exactly what the bible has done. There's no chapter on baptism. Their chapter salvation. Each truth is diffused the whole package so it can't jammed here. They're a little of precip precip lineup online. That's that's in. That's communications nearing going. The message is spread on the available bandwidth but there are ways of blending. How do you blind somebody well through religious pride that'll work through legalism that'll work intellectual pride. There's andy the presumption that the minded man is the highest intelligent. The universe leads the belief that one's own rationality is the final approach to truth and authority. Really it follows at anything outside. The limited serve manzar rationality is unreal. An impossible really it's follows. Cs lewis said the same thing if the mind of man is the highest intelligence in the universe that our minds have come into being without a creator. The result of causing effect in the process of nature follows then that the mind is only a chemical process having evolved out of getting materials. That's the premise. If this be true then. I have no reason to trust my thoughts as being valid. There's no reason to believe that the chemical process going on in my mind and causing these flirt has any meaning or correlation reality if there is such a thing when i think a profound thought it'd be only be a chemical reaction fabric too much pepperoni on the pizza. And what reason is there then to believe that the thought the thought that there is no god has reality either. Many cannot see god's glory in christ because they're rational presuppositions rule out pre trib primitivism derives from a literal presupposition towards the word of god in contrast to allegations skepticism. All the other things. Some people talk endlessly about the search for truth yet. They have no interest in talking to anyone who claims to vote it. Searching for truth appeals to one sense of pride but finding the truth demand submitting to it hoops. How do we communicate with people who are blinded by pride. Good question humbly. That's the disarming rule especially in technology technology operates in a world of largely unanswered questions a great place to join the discussion. Let's move onto verse by for we preach not ourselves but christ jesus the lord and ourselves your servants for jesus preached not ourselves to. There's no room for promoters here. For god who commanded the light to shine out of darkness in our hearts to give the light of knowledge of the glory of god in the face of jesus christ initially formless and empty and hopeless from president judgment. Maybe that's what we see in verse until the light of the spirit causes they new creation. That's really the drama going on genesis. One remember what he tell. Jesus gives clue here. He who has seen me has seen the father. That's quite a statement. His word and his initiative that the relight makes everything new his face. We talk about second. Chronicles seven fourteen to seek his face where we really mean by. That's not intellectual thing that's a commitment thing. And why then was his face so difficult to recognize. That's an interesting thing to investigate marian. The garden recognize thought. He was the gardener. Don't you heard his voice the tip off somehow on the amaze row these guys go for seven miles don't recognize and he talks about himself in the third person you want proof. Jeez sense of humor. Just read so luke twenty four until they get there and he takes over the dinner and breaks the bread which is strange for the against to do and they recognize as they later later that night. They mentioned that they just recognized in the breaking of the bread because they saw wounds and the upper room and then the one that really that morning in galleon seashore john twenty one twelve. We didn't ed dare ask him because we knew it was the lord. What's john telegraphing to us. Here i think most of you know the answer. Part of it isn't isaiah fifty. Were six those. Romans had ripped off his his his beard and he was looking so cosmetically different that they didn't recognize but i still that way revelation five six as we. He's john says he saw the lamb as it had been slayed. Well we'll move on here. See paul received a unique ministry. That's what he's talking about and so have you. Your ministry is unique because nobody else is capable of doing it. The ministry god has you. You called for something only you can do. That's your destiny. Strangely enough there is a life to be revealed not a system of theology character which despises things at the world holds very close. He will guide you all truth. Where is the promise that we cling to the question you have is. Do you have the leisure listeners. The quietness heart the com- readiness of christ the authority to say no to the world and amen do lord. That's the challenge. It's a quiet shown. But it's the big one the big one he continues here. But we have this treasure in earth and vessels that the excellency of the power may be of god and not of us. It's not the vest was the content that's important vessel. Earthen vessels like mud pots. We must focus on the treasurer not the vessel. It is a treasure within the vessel. It gives it value. We are nothing. He's everything god has made us the way. We are so that we can do the work he wants us to do. Your unique characteristics are there by design. His designs are deliberate. Really vessel must be clean empty and available service. Are you clean. are you empty. Ready for service. And that's the big question. The real characteristic of man is not as power but as weakness are very genetic structure. He despises in the defects. Inherited from adam is in the hands of god. Your genetic structure is in the hands of those things that are unique to you or there by his deliver design. Because there's a job for you to do only you can do and the adventure in life to it. The following follows here now is one of three sections in second corinthians which will list pol suffering. He's gonna digress here. And he'll do the same thing in chapter six in chapter eleven later and i didn't split this down by verse because i thought i wanted to get the flow here. We are troubled on every side yet. Not distressed we are perplexed but not in despair persecuted but not forsaken cast down but not destroyed always very about in the body. The dying of jesus that the life of also of jesus might be made manifest in your body. Boy that says it all. We've got trouble is you. Should see what he did heal from time to time. We'll go through endless astonishing what he put up with more trouble every but not distress. We're perplexed but not in despair persecuted but not forsaken cast down but not destroyed but always bearing out in the body. The dying the lord. Jesus why that. The life of jesus might be made manifest in our body boy. What a glimpse we get of his perception for we which live are always delivered unto death for jesus sake that the life of jesus might be made manifest in our mortal flesh so then death work within us life in you man. He was ready to die. Fine bring it on. He knew his lifestyle was dangerous. By choice is your lifestyle as dangerous. We having the same spirit of faith. According as it is written. I believed and therefore i've spoken we also believe and therefore speak believing seen not the other way around seeing is believing no leaving seeing not seeing is believing. He's going to hammer this union to and what a. What was paul so confident and he's going to drive home four basics. The ultimate victories kreis. No no argument there. The god will be glorified we know. That's the ultimate destiny here that his trials were working for him now against him. That's hard i embrace but we need to understand that your trials are never are working for god not against him somehow his trial he may be enduring somehow or fitting into his plans for himself and that the final thing and we're talking a little bit about this before i finished the invisible world israel. We don't really realize the invisible world is really the real one we think this is the real even though we now know it's not and we get to the here in a minute. The secret of endurance is four things. First of all of ultimate victory as the first four things in verse. Fourteen says knowing that he was raised up the lord. Jesus she'll raise us us also by jesus who show present us with you. At the conference of ultimate victory see i guarantee and fifteen back emphasizes point and is considered by some to be the most important chapter in the entire bible. Paul makes that remark about it. If we don't have if jesus wasn't raised in we are men. Most miserable important chapter in the bible involves mind. Okay there five promises that we know from the believer. This is from cs lewis again. We shall be with christ who she'll be like him. We shall have god's glory we shall be fulfilled and we shall reign with him. That's s lewis. The weight of glory just donald summary that Draw from pf louis. But let's move on here okay of the secret readers. The first victory the second one is that god will be glorified second basing in verse. Fifteen this all things are for your sakes that the abundant grace might through the thanksgiving of many down to the glory of god god will be glorified is the point. Romans eight twenty eight by the way we all like to quote. It's not for everybody. We know that all things work together for for them who are the called. According to his purpose isn't everybody we know they're all work together for good to them or the called according to purpose and we don't believe that or hope we know i the most three pardon words romans tornadoes i three for we know that god will be glorified okay. Then the third one is that his trials are working for him not against him. That god's trials are working for another against him. And that's what paul in verse sixteen for which we faint. But though are outward man terry she at the inward man is renewed day-by-day see whereas focuses. That's crucial. He was on with us for our line affliction which is but for a mullet with for us a far more exceeding eternal weight of glory. See his trial is policy his actually working for him even their trials once you notice the contrast affliction versus glory light affection versus weight of glory light affliction for a moment but the weight of glory is contracts all the way through their troubles three things. They're light they're momentary and their gods to to shape us for eternal glory. How important is to keep that in focus and then the fourth one that the invisible world was real. That's something that paul is emphasizing. Here really. yeah look what he says personally teen while we look not at the things which are seen but at the things which are not seeing for the things that are seen are temporal but the things which are not seen are eternal goodly said. Is that really real for you. That's a question see look. Here's not a casual glance but an intense examination. A constant scrutiny and steady gaze for a clear focus gripped by the reality. But we're talking about here. Leads me to a slap vacation here. I'm going to use as a symbol davinci's but trooper for man. It's just a represent man's reach then little symbol in the middle of man's reach. My little diagram here is going to increase in size going to the right. So things that are beyond man's reach collectively going to call the macrocosm. Okay well the great discovery of twentieth century science is that it had a beginning. Hasn't been does not eternal. it had a beginning. That's what leads to the speculation. We call the big bang models. Person was nothing and then it exploded is explain something. That's a joke. Should be just a joke. Anyway you had beginning enter reposes limit. It's not unlimited has a finite size that has staggering applications. The universe is finite is the one thing we want to extract from all of that all these astronomical astrophysical. That's these are the key points from that. Let's go the other way. Let's talk about things that are smaller than me. We'll call that world the microcosm well that gets pretty weird by the way. Let's take the atom. We all had this in. School has taken the simplest atom we can think of typically the hydrogen nucleus and electrons spinning around at apparently and the nucleus. We know and by the way this is not the scale but the nucleus is about ten to the minus thirteen centimeters. That's a very small part. But it's immeasurable. Some measurable thing the electron spins around it spinning around orbit. And it's about ten to the minus eight now. The numbers are not important. The ratio is in other words. The orbit of the electron is about candidate fifth times the size of the nucleus. One hundred thousand times just to linear measure if you want the area square that if the volume you cubit right so the volume metric measure here is. The fifth cubed ten times ten times ten which is same thing saying ken. To the fifth cubed which is saying ten to the fifteenth saw okay the volume of the hydrogen. I'm taking the civilised one do by the way but the the volume of the hydrogen atom represents a volume. That's ten to fifteen times. The size of the nucleus ten to fifteen turns out to be a very big number. And i suspect it's going to be very difficult for any of us to try to grasp how big ten to the fifteenth is as a real number. Let me give you one example. That's the same ratio as one second has to thirty million years in other words if somebody said this is this podium is solid. James comes as nonsense. That's got the the solid part is to volume the same. Racers is one second and thirty million years. There's nothing here. He's more correct than i am. Why does it feel solid. Goodson electrical stimulation the electrical behavior of the atoms of the podium or colliding with the electric behavior of the atoms in my hand to create the illusion then solid. But it's not it's a digital simulation. Strangely enough it gets worse than that. We discover by going through the strain. I can cut that half and throw half of it away right no problem. I can take the half that i have left on. Cut it in half and threw hathaway and conceptual. You think i could do that forever. I might get down to so small. I couldn't do it practically visualized cutting have it. Turns out that if i start doing that and get down to attend the miners thirty three centimeters. I make discovery. That's very disturbing. If i take a link that small and try to cut it in half it loses a very peculiar property called locality it then becomes everywhere at the same instant really. Yes they lose locality in fact. That's not only true of length. Anything less than ten minutes. Thirty seven thirty seven. We just can't be divided time is also digital. Did you know that. There's no unitive time. It's than ten minutes forty three seconds and not nothing do guy honking behind you and the changes. no even time is a physical dimension. That's made up of indivisible unit that's call quanta. They're not divisible at least applying -sconsin. So as we look at the microcosm we got bigger surprises. We discussed at the universe is made up of indivisible units things you cannot divide that staggering discrimination with some of the particle physicist committed. Sousa because they couldn't handle the philosophical implications length mass energy time all have plank limits. We also do know. We're not in three dimensions. Who are in hyperspace thing. I will get into here. But the real thing is if we take what we know the backward causing it's finite microcosm it's also finite and that leads to a conclusion that may surprise you. It's widely understood as expressed in scientific american in june of two thousand five that we live in a virtual digital environment it's a virtual environment to simulated environment it's digital electronic. In fact we now know that what we think of as a physical reality is a shadow of a larger reality. Those are not my words extracted. From scientific american june of two thousand and five so the thing what we think is a physical reality is a subset of something bigger. The what do we call it. Something bigger macrocosm microcosm stay with the greek and just call it the medicos. That's this world. It's beyond what we know is a physical you know. That's the domain of angels. Maybe foes if that's true maybe there's a whole bunch of things that start to populate that domain that's not in the physical world and one of things that we can expect expect in fact we get glimpses of the medical system and daniel chapter ten. There's warfare in that world and that warfare may become more and more visible as we get closer to the times so we need to understand what we mean but the medical system. So that's a little background will be trying to provide more materials there so for your next session. I want you again to read the whole episode. It's not that long but steady carefully chapters five and six for next time and with that lets you and i are hearts for word. Prayer father we stagger as we begin to appropriate the truth that you've put our laps in your word. Were as we discover that anticipates all our scientific discoveries that it has truth that we're still just beginning to apprehend were staggered as we begin to understand that these sixty six books we call the bible. Even though penn by over forty different guys are carefully skillfully designed by you in detail that every detail. There is deliberate as a way of communicating with us. We do pray for the through your holy spirit. You would open that. We're to our lives that we might be better understand what it is that you would have us in the days ahead that we might be more effective stewart's of the opportunities that you'll bring across our path that we will we ever more faithful evermore trusting ever more loving in accordance with your great commitment that we indeed might love you with all our heart all our strength all our soul all our mind as we commit ourselves wholeheartedly without any reservation whatsoever we commit ourselves into your hands in the name of your shula are precious. Savior redeemer indeed. You've been listening to sixty six forty ministry outreach of quantity house and cornelia institute. Today's bible teacher was dr chuck mesler teaching through the book of corinthians for a complete listing of resources available. Please visit k house dot. Org you can also call us on one. Eight hundred k house. One to learn more about quantity institute visit cornea institute dot. Org thank you for listening to sixty six forty and for your continued peripheral support of this ministry until next time as we continue this series. May god bless you with the knowledge of his son. Jesus christ as you study his word. You're listening to the heartland newsfeed radio network line at hartland dot com the body. That's important and the cells. That function are all spiritual in nature. Today chuck wendell points to a biblical metaphor that depicts the family of god and when they function we equip one another. There is no revolt. There is no resistance. There is no mutiny. There is no disease when the functions of the body are going on health pervades and the wonderful thing is people built up. They get equipped. Today's church has many expressions. We have small churches megachurches and even online churches. But according to the apostle paul the best way to picture in church is to think of physical body in which all of the parts were together in perfect coordination today on insight for living trucks went. All helps us understand the metaphor. Paul used in asians for so we can apply these principles to our times if you were unable to join us for friday's program. We'll begin with the helpful. Summary title this message body life at its best we easily forget that the church is a body we have tried to operate the church as an institution a corporation a business but the reality paul wants us to grasp visions. Is that the church. Is a body. Made up of cells and the cells are individual believers. You and me and other brothers and sisters in christ. Each cell has a unique role to play in keeping the entire body healthy. No section of scripture redresses this clearer than if asians for eleven to sixteen. It is beyond me. Why churches all around the world aren't serious students of and models of equations for eleven to sixteen it is beyond me if and when that becomes a reality our midst as a church we will be blown away at how healthy we stay. How the colts. They though they may come. Knocking will not get a foothold in our lives. And how we care for each other like the body cells care for one another. What you witness in church splits church arguments and church battles and church. Fights is nothing more than cells in revolt and the body isn't function. Look again at if asians four and Be reminded polls words as he starts the chapter. I'm a prisoner of the lord remember. He's in rome. He's under house arrest. He's literally bound to a roman soldier for an undetermined period of time during that while he writes four letters that have come to be known as the prison letters if these is one of them and so he really is a prisoner because of his commitment to the lord and he implores the reader emphasis to walk in a manner worthy of the calling with which he has been called. Please note the words in the verse to follow with humility gentleness patience tolerance and love those are not corporate terms those are not institutional guidelines those our body functions when the body of christ. The church is healthy stage. You will witness before your eyes. And so will the world at large to their amazement the outworking of humility the absence of pride gentleness the absence of force patients the absence of impatience and rage and anger tolerance the absence of legalism and restrictive thinking and love the absence of ignoring others and fighting with one. Another how was that done. Verse three tells us by preserving the unity of the spirit in the bond piece and with that he launches into a great treatise on unity if you have unmarked already look at the frequent repetition of the word one. There is one body one spirit just as you were called in one. Hope you're calling. There is one lord one faith one baptism. There is one god father of all who is overall through all in all. He couldn't be much clearer. There is one one one one. In fact there is one god over. All who overthrew an in all and it. All is the sovereign hand of god superseding overshadowing guiding under the direction of the head of the church. Christ the body of christ but verse seven begins always notice why there is a connected particle. That contrasts the context but now up till now it's been unity unity. One one all all but two each one of you grace was given according to the measure of christ's gift. What does that mean well. Initially it means you were given the gift of salvation through faith in the savior through faith in christ you receive forgiveness and the hope of eternal life. You came to the cross by faith like those sitting around you in the family of god and you submitted yourself to christ acknowledging that you're lost you turned away from that lifestyle and you turn toward christ repentance. You accepted the gift of eternal life and you received grace to live it. It not only mean salvation. At conversion it means a spiritual gift you were given at least one spiritual gift. If you do not have a gift you are not a christian. If you are a christian you have at least one probably more than one spiritual gift grace was given you. Each one of us steadman continues. Each one of us is gifted. It doesn't matter whether we are old young rich. Poor talented articulate quiet and some plain popular unknown. You have a spiritual gift if you do not have a spiritual gift. You're not a christian. If you exercise your gift you contribute to the vitality and ministry of the church if not listen to this you rob the church of a measure of the impact and influence. God intended his church to have in the world. Now that's a new way to look at it if you have the gift of showing mercy but you don't show mercy part of the body is hurting because you don't need in the body not unmet if you have a gift of organization and that is your your joy that is your spirit empowered gift and you don't exercise it. The church hurts because of that. If you have a gift of teaching and you're not engaged in teaching in god's time as he opens the door for you to teach then part of the group of god's people that could be taught by you is going to remain untouched and the truth will remain unsaid because you are not exercising. You're you have abilities that god has given you to use the potty christ and it will be different from the other person. It'll be different from people in your family. But god designs the body so that we carry out his giftedness to the body. Look at verse. Eleven he gave some as apostles he gave some as prophets and some as evangelists and some as pastor teachers. He gave those gifts in the body. An artist friend of mine do a little rendering of the body non prepared to show it to you. Okay here we are. Problem is there are no children in it but you can put them there because they are omnipresent. You will notice there you are. There's your there's your pictures so your self find yourself. Don't tell anybody but find yourself. They're all different sizes. All different ages all to say all different sexes both sexes. You will see you'll see all of it right there in the body and we were all made up of all different sizes and shapes and we therefore have all different things to contribute to the body. The question is why. Why has the lord gifted the buddy with these spiritual gifts. I mean couldn't have done it. Sure he could have done it. You can do it all. He's god well couldn't angels have done it absolutely all got a new coach and they're all over us and our everywhere but they didn't do that he said i want the body to function within itself. I want the cells within my body to serve the body itself and so all the way through the writings of paul not all the way but in many places paul talks about the body functioning in health and the analogy is the church as the body. Now what does he do that. I want you to look at verse twelve because it is the answer to that question. Why there's an immediate reason there's an intermediate reason progressive reason and there is an ultimate reason. The immediate reason is for the equipping of the saints. The intermediate reason is for the work of service. The ultimate reason is for the building up of the body of christ look at verse. He gave some s and any names all these gifts here and the reason he did that was to begin with for the equipping of the saints. Your gift when it is exercised equips saints my gift when it is exercise equipment. Slane's your gift may not be as visible as another person's gift. It's not important. The lord looks at the heart not at the outward appearance always saw in that little artist's rendering is the bodies but what we really should have seen is the gifts that are going on within. The bodies occurred to me when i was preparing this. I've never seen anybody carry a picture of an x ray of one of their organs. Nobody's ever said. Let me show you my kidney. You will never believe it makes us less and look at my stomach. Look at that you ever seen a stomach. This stomach not the other. Or here's my heart. Look look if we don't do that we'd carry pictures of our persons the externals the lord sees us through x ray eyes and the body he sees is not a body. That's heavy set or thin or six feet two or five feet three or male or female. That's not the body that's important to him. The body that's important and the cells. That function are all spiritual in nature and when they function we equip one another. There is no revolt. There is no resistance. There is no mutiny. There is no disease when the functions of the body are going on health pervades and the thing is people get built up. They equipped one of the reasons. God gives us pastor teachers. You'll see that listed last in the list of verse eleven is that you might be equipped. I'll put my neck on the line if you leave a church service following any meeting. We have where. I am a teacher and you weren't equipped better to live the life you got ripped off. I did not do my job market down. Or if i did my job you may not en- listened and taken it in the point is there is equipping going on even now the primary purpose of the gifts unless it is. The gift of evangelism is not to evangelize the lost. It is equip the saints and then the saints evangelized the lost. The church hasn't gotten that message and the result is starving. Congregations the world over because they're not being equipped. This word equip is the greek term qatar zo. Ktar zeal cutter. Ted's those an interesting word. It means to add what is lacking so the original purpose is fulfilled. Its used for a net. That's torn and when the net is patched sewn back together it is our kids owed. It's prepared so that its original purpose is fulfilled. If you pull up happen if something happens to your arm and you get pulled out a joint and somebody resets the joint so it's in place. They have caught our kids the joint. If you break a bone physician sets the bone puts it in a cast that it heels and it's not healthy again. He has caught her kids the bone if there is an army going into battle and equip the army with the weapons and ammunition. Whatever that army has been caught her tits now. This is not about ships or armies or bones or joints or or nets. This is about the body of christ the purpose of your time in the body of christ. Initially thanks to these gifts is to be built up or equipped so that you function in ways that you otherwise would not know to function. Look at the next thing for the work of service. Isn't that great. The purpose of the gifts is to equip the saints. So that the saints take up. The work of ministry traditionally people hire staff so the staff will do the work of ministry and we sit back arms folded and if something needs to get done we hire more and we hire more. If they didn't get into our somebody else nothing is said about. Volunteerism is just hire somebody. Nothing wrong with staff at the purpose of the staff isn't to do. The work of ministry is to train others to do the work of ministry. It's an eye opening dot. Isn't it one of my more colorful mentors. Used to say the church is too much like a football game. Fifty thousand people in the stands desperately in need of exercise watching twenty two people on the field definitely in desperately in need of rest. How hendrix gets credit for that. We are not to be a group spectators. Watching a few people do the work of ministry. We've participate. We are engaged in meeting the needs of the flock. You with the other her with him he with him her with her me with you with me. It is a give and take. It's like the cells working together and when they worked together it's remarkable what health purvey and we take up the work of service. The word service by the way as the were deacon we deacon we learn the work of serving one another and ultimately please observe to the building up of the body of christ think of this strong body. Why are you laughing really strong. Muscle you know pumping iron really able to stand firm. Climb mountains go around. The world in a boat doesn't matter whatever happens. You're not gonna you're not gonna give up. You're going to go after it. Why because you've been built up you've been prepared. You been equipped you've been caught. Our kids owed jets body life when the body functions as it is to function the life begins to flow needs get met and we no longer live like little children. Look until we all attain to the unity of the faith. Mark the word unity and of the knowledge of the son of god. Mark the word knowledge to mature man the word mature if you wonder what that standard it is to the measure of the state of the stature which belongs to the fullness of christ. He is our standard as a result. We are no longer to be children tossed here and there by waves and carried about by every wind doctrine by the trickery of men bhai craftiness and deceitful scheming but true thing it mark the word truth in love we are to grow up now challenged us to grow up several days ago. Some of you remember being a little stunned. When i use those words grow up and they're they are right there in the scriptures verse fifteen we are to grow up in all aspects into him who is the head even christ is his body life at its best. We grow up. We are not adults living like children. We are adults handling ourselves in an adult manner. Now be careful here. There's nothing wrong with children. I love children and in fact often. They don't have a clue. And that's what's so cute about being with the day with the austin our five year old grandson and he was in the pickup with me and we were riding along when he streets here in frisco and turned a corner. And there's a brand new fire station on the right. And i said look fire station like of that new white firetruck looking at. I was more excited than he was. Look at that fire. Truck he goes. I know it. Bobby says far far men are are good. People never import it. But i'm going to be a train man. I said really wouldn't be a train masons. One i am grown-up i said. When are you going to be grown up one. I'm six hundred six hundred. Then he starts to count by tins to six hundred. So i'm waiting through that as he ten twenty thirty four he just learned that in school and so he was practicing on me so he'd learned six hundred. It's as far as he could go so he's going to be six hundred he's going on us. You're not use it. i know and i'm kidding. Thirteen leaving home to go to train school. So now it's thirteen. He's going to be thirteen. I said let me ask you a question you like to eat. He said yes sir. It's my favorite thing i said. Don't leave home at age. Thirteen lot hunger out there. Stay there as long as they pump food. And then shove off. Is i know that he says i'm going to be grown up on forty two. Where does he get that. He doesn't have a clue when he's gonna be grown up. Isn't that fun. We laughed at more fun to front seat. There my pick up laughing together and all of a sudden. I came that afternoon to this passage. And i thought but when adults act like that it's tragic tragic. Nothing cute little children being clueless few things more tragic than adult living clueless lives long comes some slick capable spokesman for the cult and he opens the door of his car and says get in and we slide rioting and we buy that whole message because we have been dc but the trickery craftiness of deceitful scheming grown up when you are properly equipped doctrine lee when you are properly equipped physically spiritually. You don't give in to the calls you stand against it. You can sniff it out. You can smell. This is wrong and you have the courage to say. No thank you in fact let me explain to you the truth and on your own without a pasture nearby you can open the scriptures and show them the way that's adult while i'm on the subject. Let me add when you hear of splits in a church in church fights church arguments. What you're hearing is children at play in adult bodies. That's what you're seeing. that's what you're here. That's why it's so tragic. Few things are more tragic than a child in an adult body. Because you have the permission. But you haven't the wisdom to handle the role the exercise of the gifts the equipping of the saints. Prepare you for hard times and you grow up in all aspects. You know one of the great things about being adult. You're no longer sunfish. What is it we remember and love so much about. Our mothers is whether it was day or night. Weekends are weekdays when we were saying they were there is because we know they gave up this. So that we might have that it's called unselfish. It's called maturity And maturity is the end goal. These steps prescribed by paul lead us into spiritual adulthood. 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Bill twenty nine ninety eight which led to the development of the oregon. Transfer compass to streamline the transfer process protecting natural resources in texas safeguards jobs and drives economic stability reasons. Texans need best practices to address scarce water supplies. Suzanne scott is the new director of the nature conservancy of texas. She says as the population grows texas communities must work together and people need to take personal responsibility to preserve natural areas essential to the states wellbeing. Reading hotter summers were having more intense. Storms the number of hurricanes that we've seen this year should be something that people are noticing and wondering what's happening in causing things to be so different and if this is what we're going to be seeing in the future then what actions can we take. I'm rose brown in the past century. Texas has warmed with storms becoming more intense and floods more severe finally our suzanne potter reports. 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Because i remember i remember that i am here. Not because of the path that lies before me but because of the path that lies behind me. I remember the one hundred years. We have caught these machines and after a century of war. I remember that we still make them remember. Yeah yeah beard and a beard beard fear because and you know how much do we care. Well i'll tell you what dr frank cares. He cares lot and Let's find out and get caught up. Because i've been you know i'm not the paying attention. So there is a lot of consternation out there about the presidential election. And what's going on. And we kind of you know i you know for. Now we know so frank Are we done yet. What's up this be just like like some kind of holiday for you. Sitting there watching the world burn be light like like jokers are is showing the world. How voting doesn't matter. House co opted and It's the same thing it's a. It's a beautiful experiment. I have to say not to be not to really be too funny with us. You know we've had our fun. That's about about this sort of thing and it's interesting. Because i think in a certain way we may win out of this because on one hand you're showing how voting is as corrupt to that degree and that's been our our debate often is is. I've always said there's corruption but is it bad enough that it can actually put a thumbs on the system to to sway at six degree. Yeah and and and is there naturally a button flip. Well i don't. I still don't believe there's no button to flip. I think what they've done is is just a matter of fact in some ways impact. Oh wow this later. But i think that there were so over brazen in how they were just going to take this from each state and the city and it was the democrats have good could control that they almost overplayed their hand and made it just so blatantly obvious but the thing is that wasn't like it was some computer system where they just turned a switch on because every city in every every county state whatever has like different ways the voting which kind of prevents that but nevertheless it. You know you're correct in the point that it. They were successful with with voter fraud to such a degree to sway. This this this level of of of an election on the flip side on the other hand in order to pull something like this off it is so obvious and they violated with with so many rules and laws. Which i know it's probably will make you laugh with that concept but that it is now something that I don't think they'll get away with honestly i. this is still going to trump. i think trump is still going to be president by by by january I really do And and It's not fun it's gonna to be you know with the courts and the budget. Stupid idiots happened to watch the mainstream news. That have no idea what's going on except that they're busy sitting there celebrating in the streets without masks. I may you know since biden one and then when suddenly something called the supreme court turns around and talking gobbledygook about rules and laws. Listen that Donald trump's feeling it away from push you know in order to push supreme court justice through at the last minute. That is how they're going to see it. They're already starting the wise which you know what. What would that that that we can get. But that's the bottom line. The president has not conceded. And neither have i. I have not conceded this election to joe biden and anyone listening who thinks i haven't either one. That's you but i'm just thinking anyone else. There that will leave. This election has been a little bit of a malarkey. You know i've added to it. You know from certain vice president If if if you believe has been stolen or cheating foot and this was not a fair election. Then you yourself are. Not conceiving this election it does not matter and god knows if anyone earn those this point. It doesn't matter what the media says. And the fact that we have walt disney mickey mouse. Who owns both you know. Abc news and fox news. I may add sitting here telling us who actually won. They can screw themselves because the media is the same media. That is the lie to us this entire time. Everything from not even reporting that the hunter biden story and yet and yet and now now now now now they have no idea. They don't want to report anything about voter fraud. The say media about of course. Bill clinton and hillary clinton and f- side and we'd go down the whole list of everything that they will not cover and the same media now. We're supposed to sit back and trust that they tell us you know. The joe biden one on election night with our own eyes watching all of these states. Getting shut down at the same time and all his balanced pilot. What we definitely will act that. But that's the big picture is that this is not over. The president has not conceded and it sounds like that has teams doing pretty. Well i mean it sounds like a golf course a couple days ago. I mean less stress than the His his supporters are. I'm not saying playing golf from that. They'll do the left. Is saying that. And giuliani was was giving a really good good interview the other day and they're pretty much in good spirits already. Have the plan of what to do. Involves the the us supreme court based with pennsylvania and michigan. So there's a whole whole attack here and this thing is laid out. Look on my last point. I appreciate my little morning rant. And that is. There's no way in an i can't profanity at this point on your show that donald trump they the old commit koukoulas You know counterpunch huge list. Pood- utilised i knew i said that He's not going to be sitting back watching these people. I mean god knows he feels with. He deals with corrupt people from mafia in new york city and even worse politicians and union people his whole life. He's gonna sit back with giuliani. Who who is a professional enwrapped appearing in new york city with the mob there. You're not going to deal with that sort of team. They're gonna sit back and watch. Democrats sit there and and change all the rules a at at the last minute for mail in ballots and sit back and not saying that they're going to steal it and plan for this so i know that i have complete confidence with this president. He said boldly than i am not going allow them. The oldest election is not conceding. And there's reasons behind it so anyway that's my opening what say you i. Just don't care. I care enough to Have frank explained to us. You know this is. It doesn't matter until people ask themselves fundamental basic questions and that is what. Why do we vote. What is the voting for and who counts it. And who tells us who won and we're seeing this play out it's not It's not right. it's not fair. it's not just it's not accurate and we just all pretend that it is and there's no real knowing or assurances or as you scratch the surface as i have for thirty years. It has gotten worse. It's gotten more blatant and it's gotten more streamline in how they'd just pick someone and so say the news so say at You know the people still say that is whether accurate or not doesn't matter. It's just all the facade so in that environment i look to other means of determining people's Mood and sway and their general public opinion which voting is supposed to. Do you know express their opinion about important things. And i don't trust it so i look at things like I don't know where they spend their money how they raise their kids what they used for entertainment. Why you know. They support one. You know celebrity over another. Are they really support. Anything is it all just made up. Is it all facade. And how do you know and you know this election. It became extremely obvious that the people that were the most enthusiastic. And lord forbid you know the productive i wanna work at. Least if i'm not working you know people that were contributors to society. Had an opinion other side. Their opinion was egging me stuff. I don't like him. The news said so and ended. Translate in the number or adult. I've been saying this for years. It will have to convince you that your neighbors that all on so. I mean you could see what i'm talking about. Are you feeling confused about the current economic reports that dominate the headlines. 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You know About whether or not this could be the moment the overall rubicon i chatted with him privately and believe it or not sometimes earn nights and have a serious conversation once in awhile. It's pretty rare but you know But i chatted with him a few days ago went over the weekend. Most crop was happening. And when i was telling him is kind of a little bit more emotion. I was feeling not that it was lose ended about it but one of the points i was bringing him at the onyx. I've got the chat with. Both of them was that i was feeling what i feel that i seem to have my pulse on the media. The trump voter or or many people out there for whatever the reason is. I think it's why you know. Pretty pretty dead on with the whole trump's phenomenon been and i just felt not that i was going to go out there and riot necessarily but i feel in my gut was feeling the average american who i have to say. I do believe trump did won this election. which means that. The majority of americans feel the same way. Despite with the media's gonna wind tell you and i was just wondering you know for at this point and there's no putting the genie back into this credibility so whether democrats or republicans who were like neo cons and establish some people say well. We're starting to get this right this time next time. We'll make sure that we fixed the voting system and this and that net and like is there any going back. And ernie had commented about about with jon breaky that probably that were probably tasks that such sparked my question off the air which return over to him. Which is this the moment earnings always talked about which is to the point where people the average person says. It just doesn't matter and turned their back but they have to be first blindsided with you know with that moment that that come to jesus moment where they finally see ufo and bigfoot and then it happens. And i'm wondering for there. That's my question we're on our way and it's it's more and more more and more and more and more and more This is what. I had anticipated. This is what got me. I mean i talk about it a lot. The people don't know how how seriously i took it when i realized in the late because keep in mind. I didn't come at this from election. Fraud that was not what was it was international traders. My father's company of you know. And then i asked myself after i within a few months it became obvious to me that this was they were lying. It was just a big giant rip-off american people and eat out our substance long story. But i go okay. How do they do this. how did they get. I mean you know. Let's get you know hack at the root here as but you know hacking at the branches i wanna and get at the root and it was very clear to me quickly that they did it with election law that if they could give the impression that that's what you want whether it was right or not or republican form of government constitutional or none of that was all general opinion. It was just well. This is what the people want. So is what we're going to give them and you know they. They want us to kick some commie button. Vietnam or something. I mean you know pinky swear you know it's just you know this is what they want so it's just a campaign it's just a is just commercials. Then it's just you know Bread and circuses. Then it's so. I scratched the surface at that process. And i go. How in a hacker. They and then. I came across a bunch of other people that were fighting the system in so many other ways it was on education and health and and taxes and corruption in contract. I mean it was just. I just came across so because once i started doing stuff or challenging things in the all you guys bad. Let me show you so as time when i'm going. Yeah i became more and more convinced that it was election law. So i didn't know what can one poor little kid you know at twenty. Whatever with children i i. I don't know. I just couldn't not do anything and i didn't want to join or help. I even tried to help him with some campaigns and a friend of mine. Oh yeah. I know this guy. He's a good guy asks simple questions and it is obvious very quickly that it was. They were playing into the corruption. It's who you had please is. What special interest had yet to be on the list of acceptable that you even could be elected now. That was impossible. Because if you're not kissing ass is not even possible. Not possible not possible. If you didn't check certain boxes it was not possible that already been determined and it was even if you could even get on the ballot. So i'm going. Wow this is i. Don't think people realize what's going on. So i got standing to make him say it. I challenged. I did learn how to file my own. Federal court action form of poppers. Which means you know for free. 'cause you're poor so i always that did that and you know when i wasn't so poor we get people that were here. You know you wanna do this. We'll gaza anything. Okay let's go kick ass so we had a lot of things in the end. It was very clear to me that the mission was total domination getting in control of budgets of trillions of dollars and the ability to rip us off to the last penny.