18 Burst results for "Rick Tomlinson"

"rick tomlinson" Discussed on Main Engine Cut Off

Main Engine Cut Off

04:11 min | 3 months ago

"rick tomlinson" Discussed on Main Engine Cut Off

"Well. Megan welcome to manage and cut off. This has been a year overdue at this point. An entire pandemic overdue. Maybe i'm happy that you're here talking to us. I'm really thrilled to be here. Thank you for having me anything so to start. I want everyone to meet you. Because you're awesome <hes>. So you are a member of space fund. You also have this podcast mission eve. That is fantastic. Can you tell everyone a little bit about you sure. Yeah <hes>. co founder and managing partner of space fund <hes>. Where <hes> venture capital firm investing exclusively in the new space ecosystem so very kind of targeted fund <hes>. And then i also have my podcast mission eve which <hes>. I interview the most amazing women in the space industry. It's just been a thrill and just so much fun to do. And in the hopes of inspiring more women to join us here in the space industry <hes>. So that's that's a project that's near and dear to my heart <hes>. I'm also on. The board of several nonprofits needs to do a quick shout out the space frontier foundation. The center for space commerce finance mars initiative and the earth light foundation <hes>. Spend an inordinate amount of my time helping those at nonprofits. So i think that's probably about it so we're gonna talk about a bunch of different angles on the finance side of stuff which i occasionally touch on but probably not as deeply as i should in many cases <hes> there's some fundraising that has happened. In the past year that has been particularly notable for the size <hes>. specifically spacex relativity. Been getting gargantuan amounts of money there's some acquisitions that have happened recently. And then <hes>. There's a whole trend of holding companies. That i find quite interesting as well as a trend that i find interesting and more shady. Which is this whole special purpose acquisition friend. Those are the things. I want to pick your brain about. Is there an order. would you like to start with fundraising and then get into what happens after. You've gotten a bunch of funding and actually accomplish things. What's the right order there. Yeah well <hes>. I think i'd like to start with this kind of startling statistic that that i i like to <hes>. I like to bring up a lot. Is that <hes>. One and it's it's one of the reasons that spaceman was founded. Actually is you know. Currently launched comprises less than two percents of the global space economy yet has received seven percent of the venture capital. Today right sounds crazy but it. It makes such intuitive sense to like you know somebody watches the markets but exactly crazy. Yeah that's crazy. Yeah i like it when you hear that you're like oh yeah that seems right but holy crap. That's crazy just hear those numbers right and now the one question i would have is. Does that. include any space x funding as launch. Yes that includes spacex funding and includes the you know that big relativity rounded includes all of that. So i guess that's my that would be. My stipulation is like how. How do you separate out. What of that is going to starlink. zach <unk> satellites. Then does that skew it or is it not big enough to actually skew. Anything no matter how you classify either couple billion. Yeah so you know the regardless. It's it's a huge number even if he were to try and take starlink out of the kind of the space x portion of that. They're going to be forty percent of the venture right number exactly exactly and so you know when <hes>. When my partner. Rick tomlinson and i were contemplating a founding space fund. You know this was one of the things that was really bothering us. We were kind of looking around the industry at all of our our friends and colleagues. Who are these brilliant entrepreneurs going and down sandhill road and couldn't get any funding and meanwhile while all these other. Vc's are just pouring good money. After bad into launch company after launch company because all ilan has launched company and basil's has launched company and jared. Leto is invested in in relativity space so i need a launch company. Right and base fund is currently tracking a hundred and sixty two active launch companies around the world.

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interview With Meagan Crawford

Main Engine Cut Off

04:11 min | 3 months ago

interview With Meagan Crawford

"Well. Megan welcome to manage and cut off. This has been a year overdue at this point. An entire pandemic overdue. Maybe i'm happy that you're here talking to us. I'm really thrilled to be here. Thank you for having me anything so to start. I want everyone to meet you. Because you're awesome So you are a member of space fund. You also have this podcast mission eve. That is fantastic. Can you tell everyone a little bit about you sure. Yeah co founder and managing partner of space fund Where venture capital firm investing exclusively in the new space ecosystem so very kind of targeted fund And then i also have my podcast mission eve which I interview the most amazing women in the space industry. It's just been a thrill and just so much fun to do. And in the hopes of inspiring more women to join us here in the space industry So that's that's a project that's near and dear to my heart I'm also on. The board of several nonprofits needs to do a quick shout out the space frontier foundation. The center for space commerce finance mars initiative and the earth light foundation Spend an inordinate amount of my time helping those at nonprofits. So i think that's probably about it so we're gonna talk about a bunch of different angles on the finance side of stuff which i occasionally touch on but probably not as deeply as i should in many cases there's some fundraising that has happened. In the past year that has been particularly notable for the size specifically spacex relativity. Been getting gargantuan amounts of money there's some acquisitions that have happened recently. And then There's a whole trend of holding companies. That i find quite interesting as well as a trend that i find interesting and more shady. Which is this whole special purpose acquisition friend. Those are the things. I want to pick your brain about. Is there an order. would you like to start with fundraising and then get into what happens after. You've gotten a bunch of funding and actually accomplish things. What's the right order there. Yeah well I think i'd like to start with this kind of startling statistic that that i i like to I like to bring up a lot. Is that One and it's it's one of the reasons that spaceman was founded. Actually is you know. Currently launched comprises less than two percents of the global space economy yet has received seven percent of the venture capital. Today right sounds crazy but it. It makes such intuitive sense to like you know somebody watches the markets but exactly crazy. Yeah that's crazy. Yeah i like it when you hear that you're like oh yeah that seems right but holy crap. That's crazy just hear those numbers right and now the one question i would have is. Does that. include any space x funding as launch. Yes that includes spacex funding and includes the you know that big relativity rounded includes all of that. So i guess that's my that would be. My stipulation is like how. How do you separate out. What of that is going to starlink. zach satellites. Then does that skew it or is it not big enough to actually skew. Anything no matter how you classify either couple billion. Yeah so you know the regardless. It's it's a huge number even if he were to try and take starlink out of the kind of the space x portion of that. They're going to be forty percent of the venture right number exactly exactly and so you know when When my partner. Rick tomlinson and i were contemplating a founding space fund. You know this was one of the things that was really bothering us. We were kind of looking around the industry at all of our our friends and colleagues. Who are these brilliant entrepreneurs going and down sandhill road and couldn't get any funding and meanwhile while all these other. Vc's are just pouring good money. After bad into launch company after launch company because all ilan has launched company and basil's has launched company and jared. Leto is invested in in relativity space so i need a launch company. Right and base fund is currently tracking a hundred and sixty two active launch companies around the world.

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"rick tomlinson" Discussed on The Meb Faber Show

The Meb Faber Show

09:44 min | 7 months ago

"rick tomlinson" Discussed on The Meb Faber Show

"Think about twenty years ago, and it was actually sort of a dirty word. It was not something was looked on as a positive thing was actually frowned upon and some of the creators of this were members. Of Netherland, conspiracy they were leaders such as Jim. Muncie. who was a well known space policy experts and lobbyists based in the DC area really. Really Brilliant Guy and Space Policy Bob were who is an entrepreneur in also space policy expert in Rick Tomlinson Who's well known space entrepreneur writer, visionary thought leader big huge hearts, and he actually lived in California for longtime. But. So these three guys they started group I think it was the late eighties called the Space Frontier Foundation in Vail along with their peers created this term called new space and it was it was Kinda frowned upon the idea that there were new entrepreneur ways of doing things and not that the establishment or old space or government space for necessarily bad. But they were just we should also take into account new ways of doing things adding new energy taking some of the best ideas of of capitalism entrepreneurial startups. Technology disciplines instead bringing that into space space was in many ways a protected kingdom. If you're a large government contractor, you're working on cost plus contracts life could be pretty good for you in for anybody who is connected to that and connected with that word new space. You sometimes saw the cousin word space tourism and that can mean a lot of different things to different people but regardless, that word to was also definitely controversial and you would see a cut right down the middle. Some people said great word we need space tourism. Some people say, no, that's about dilettantes. That's neophytes. Not Going to help us this is anti science and I see life as a lot of gray rather than black and white. We have to learn different perspectives we need to learn and be open to it. In some of the earliest I'll say human space participants, some of them were in fact, essentially space tourist. Dennis. winco founder of Cirque de Soleil beer. Last name. We have the individual Charles Simoni who was one of the early employees at Microsoft. He went to orbit to the Space Station twice Mark Shuttleworth a new and sorry and of course, Richard Gary who is the first child of an astronaut? So his father owned Gary it was the astronaut on Skylab and then Richard Garrett had the financial resources through his efforts in the video gaming industry to go to space in these individuals spent millions of dollars to have these personal ventures to. Space but also many of them each also, they were catalysts for all sorts of things some of known in well known that have peppered end in catalysts and influential into this slowly percolating in emerging area known as new space in. Now, what you're seeing kind of heavyweights in the industrial titans of Jeff Bezos Elon Musk even the late Paul Allen who was deeply involved in this area, and of course, Richard Branson who's maybe more of a media in traveled airline entrepreneur, but definitely heavily invested in. This area. So I think at sometimes tech outsiders to engender some new ideas new spirit in just a new conversation regarding what's possible even if it is controversial, let people try it at least once let's try in. Let's debate it later. We'll. It's funny. You mention the Smithsonian too fun memories they used to love going in DC one was getting astronaut ice cream, which was never very good. But a lot of fun and novel and second I remember I had received a roby Frisbee as. A birthday gift in. So it's right next to the mall in DC, which is like the longest possible Frisbee lawn in the world and sure enough it may not have been throw one, but it was definitely within the first three were got stuck in one of those enormous trees. Right next to the law is probably still there today a lot of fond distraught memories young child but it seems like if you look back in history and you can kinda correct me or expand on this that. There's really been sort of two. Periods. When you think about old space I've the memories. It's like the fifties, the sixties Apollo ending and I guess the seventy s and then you know, yes, you have the space station but a little bit a dormancy. It felt like where you know it wasn't maybe so much of a focus and I come from aerospace family. My old man was aerospace at Martin Marietta Lockheed and my brothers at northrop. So we come from a family that's obviously been very interested in this industry but. It feels like in the last decade, you start to see the childhood excitement again in the innovation going on. So maybe walk us through any commentary you have on the time line and the history of what's been going on, and then we can start to dive deeper into some of the ideas of what's going on with a more modern world at the high level you got where there was a lot of energy and excitement from the late fifties through early even say the early seventies which was kind of the ending of the space program in for those who don't know yes John F. Kennedy at the Football Stadium. At Rice, university in Houston Texas gave his famous speech but lot of it is you generally hear the sound bites. But when you look at the transcripts or if you want, you can hear the recording which is widely available. He talks about this greater thing of why we're going. But the political reason for going to the moon was our competition with the Soviet Union and maybe it's just that we're at a place in our civilization in our species where we kind of have to have like these nation state rivalries to get us to do big things maybe one day that will change. But that's at least the twentieth century. Essentially it was communist versus capitalist democracy. You can go more into the details there but that is what of Cain you wanted to do with going to the moon it was essentially beat the Russians. They're put a flag in footprints there. But if we quickly fast forward, the sentiment in the more new space industry said is like look was great for that time. But let's not just go back into orbit moon Mars for flags footprints for symbolic reasons which are good. But let's actually do things more sustainably for economic reasons and other social science written needed push the envelope further you and I are a sense probably contemporary. Around same age and I to sense that I was really into space as a kid, my parents were into aerospace by up in Florida. So I saw plenty of space activity firsthand with my dad who took me out to see some launches and it went to space camp in Alabama which was a great thing and I think they're really struggling in this type of pandemic and I've. I've heard that there's some type A fundraiser for them. So I don't know much about the specifics but for those who want to know about space camper supported, go check that out 'cause it's it was a really great memorable impactful experience for a but essentially I realized starting in high school. I saw lack of vision leadership what was going on space they were kind of planning in start or they were starting the construction of space station which will take time because they were using space shuttle. The Russians in some European launch efforts can't remember if the Japanese were involved into Japanese module I don't remember if the Japanese using their launcher, but it was gonNA take a number of flights, but there wasn't like in this. Period there wasn't high think they missed the boat on how to keep the story of all this because construction at that time being wasn't a very automated process. They need astronauts to kind of plug things in and I. Think they lost a lot of opportunity to capture generations could have entered this area because it was a slower pace of activity in other newer space entrance that had tried in the late nineties were met with incredible resistance. Share is a man named Andrew Beal owns bank. I think he's based out of Texas. He's still around he's high net worth individual in he wanted to participate in space. It Kinda WanNa do something very smart Elon Musk and he had a big ranch Texas he was working on a architecture there but essentially, he had to compete with NASA end NASA at the time. Wasn't ready to give out additional contracts to newer entrance essentially untested water for whatever reason and he ended up pulling out in the irony is that Elon? Musk and SPACEX acquired many of his assets including physical assets I think might have been some minor bits of Ip they acquired I. Don't think even hong-koo's brags about that but he acquired assets on the cheap any continued. Windy Lon was getting into this. He originally wanted to send I..

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"rick tomlinson" Discussed on KNST AM 790

KNST AM 790

06:46 min | 2 years ago

"rick tomlinson" Discussed on KNST AM 790

"And I think that one of the biggest problems with American space policy, and we all know, it is that it can change with a new administration. President Obama actually said we're not going to the moon. He said we've done that. We're going to Mars, and of course, a lot of people applauded, and that's great. Let's don't do what we've already done. President Trump comes in and says, well, no we are going to go to the moon. So it we have to keep re iterating the value of space exploration to the public every four to eight years, and it if you want a democracy, you can't you can't help it. But it does make it hard to have an ongoing space policy. The title of your new book is called the Cosma hypothesis. Tell me about that title Franken. That book or this book? Really does emerge from my work on the overview effect and the experience of astronaut since they? And it goes back to the question of why we're doing it and the need for a new philosophy of space exploration. And Cosma is a personal name that I came up with for the universe. Okay. Originally. I thought did the publisher supposed to say cosmic and they made a mistake. No, no. This is a, but it also has has a history with the guy hypothesis because the guy offices says the earth is a living organism. Yeah. It's a living organism interconnected. Life is essential to it. Life is not just a passenger on a big rock. That's going around the Sun Life moles the earth to its needs. And I drew on that to say, well, what about the universe navy? The universe is similar in that everything is interconnected, and maybe life is extremely important. And so I just built on the guy concept and the whole point of it is really to ask the question. Why is it that with the billions of years of evolution on this planet? Why is it that we suddenly have a species that can become a stay faring species can become a multi planet civilization. And when I say, why is it? I mean, why does the environment of the universe? Why as it? Then. Friendly to that happening. I started out wanting to come up with a new philosophy of space exploration shortly. After the challenger accident in nineteen eighty six and there was a TV show this week with David Brinkley. And they had Isaac Asimov, and Tom Wolfe and George will trying to justify. Human space exploration. If we're going to have people dying to do it. And I mean, literally not wanting to do it. But dying in the process, and George will said to Tom Wolfe. Haven't we had sort of a banal reason for space exploration like nonstick frying, pans, and Tom will said, you're exactly right. We've never had a philosophy of space exploration in this country. But as I pondered that it struck me that all of our reasons were human centered. It was all about exploitation what we were going to get out of it. So in in writing this book, I asked myself from universal point of view. What are we bringing to the party? And ultimately, it seemed that what we have uniquely is. We are. We are a form of life. And we do have life in abundance on the earth. And we are intelligent the ings. We don't always act that way. And actually, we're finding that intelligence primates the animal world as well. And we have a self awareness. So the hypothesis is that our purpose is to spread life intelligence and self-awareness through the cosmos. My friend. Rick Tomlinson, says we are here to go there. And I wish I could have come up with a short pithy phrase like that. But I had to write an entire book. We we also need to use space Frank to help humanity here. Don't you think? Yeah. And again, this is something we shouldn't lose sight of one of the things I do at Meyer about Jeff these us vision is that he's completely bought into that. And he says this is the best planet planet earth is the best planet and his vision has an integral part of it is improving life on earth. That's so important Frank. We're gonna take a quick break. But we're gonna come back and talk more about your latest work, the Cozma hypothesis. I wanna get your take for example on the space force that President Trump wants to implement what's happening there. And we'll be back with more phone calls next hour with Frank white. Find out more about tonight's guest. Log on to coast to coast AM dot com. At bluecross blueshield, our companies take what we learned from.

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"rick tomlinson" Discussed on KGO 810

KGO 810

12:04 min | 2 years ago

"rick tomlinson" Discussed on KGO 810

"Phenomenon. Jeff these of has been thinking about this and planning this since he saw Neil Armstrong walk in the moon. You know, Ilan musk Richard Branson, they've all been entrenched like you, and like me at the possibilities of human stay settlement and exploration and they've been working toward this. And now they have the resources to jump in there and become a role models for many many other entrepreneurs. And that's also important. There's a critical mass of people who are trying to become the next blue origin or. And venture capitalist are investing in it. And then we have another change that's worth noting for the American audience switches NASA has shifted its approach from being somewhat cool to the entrepeneurship space movement to embracing it and you notice when Jeff Bezos was talking yesterday. He spoke about Mike Pence telling NASA we need to get there. We need to get to the moon. Much more quickly. And Jeff in braced it. He said, we're ready to go. We'll be part of it. If you need us. And and of course, the lunar Lander is a big part of that. So the other thing that has always been a problem is reusable, and it is the private sector. It's Alon musk and jesse's of who have been able to perfect reasonable rockets, and and really Rian, you know, really ensure low cost access to orbit frankly disappointed though, that NASA has backed off the way it has in terms of space exploration. Well, I'm not really disappointed. I think that they're they're they're doing their part. I think they've made some good decisions lately in the sense that they are saying we're going to move into deep space. We're going to be taking the next step. We're going to we're going to leave lowers orbit to the private sector. I think they're making the right decision there, even though it may not seem as exciting as Apollo. I think one of the problems NASA has really as post Apollo fatigue. That was such an exciting time. I lived through it. It was just an amazing decade. Her was when they had that goal and that unified approach and a strong reason for doing it. And I think that NASA has been to some extent. People have been asking, where's the next Apollo? And I'm not sure that's really fair to the agency because we do need these step by step incremental activities, and they're still there and they're doing that. So, you know, I'd love to see them doing much more bolts ventures, but they're also servants of the people servants of the political system. So NASA can't can't set these goals by themselves. Will they be the ones to basically go to, you know, Beazely his company or Elon Musk or whomever is involved in this and say we want to go back to the moon bid because we want your company to be part of the process, the think, they'll basically be the focal point the contract, give her while these other companies, the private companies are the builders of these rockets. Well, I think that maybe what happens and. People who know a lot about the history of the space program will point out that this is not so dramatically different from the past in the sense that NASA didn't really Bill the rockets that went to the moon and took us into low-earth orbit. Again. It was contractors. It's just that. It was. Fusing and those days it was the old aerospace companies. That's right. What we call ole stay the Grumman's and companies like that. Yeah. Yeah. And now, it's new stays viso sin musk and people of that generation. I think it was very telling that Mike Pence when he announced a more rapid return to the moon said, we're not changing the mission. We might change those who carry it out. And I don't think it was an accident that these she s today said he was happy with the Pence commandment, and he was ready to go. I think that if it looks like the best way to get back to the moon is to work with him or Eli musk or some other new states entrepreneur, I think Nestle do that. I have no inside knowledge. But I think they will pay the Bill because visas isn't going to build this in just go on his own because he wants to go to the moon. Somebody's gotta pay for it. Right. Who's gonna pay for it? Yeah. Well, if you think about it the lunar Lander that he unveiled yesterday. I don't know. But I I think actually I think NASA did put some money into that. But at the same time, I think it's going to be a public private partnership because I know Jeff Bezos is putting a huge amount of his own money into into this effort. So, you know, the taxpayers will pay part of the Bill, and of course, once again. This goes back to my work. I'd say which is the why doing this? What are the what are the virtues of doing it? And I think that one of the biggest problems with American space policy, and we all know, it is that it can change with a new administration. President Obama actually said we're not going to the moon. He said we've done that. We're going to Mars, and of course, a lot of people applauded, and that's great. Let's don't do what we've already done. President Trump comes in and says, well, no we are gonna go to the moon. So it we have to keep re iterating the value of space exploration to the public every four to eight years, and it if you wanna democracy, you can't you can't help it. But it does make it hard to have an ongoing space policy. Title of your new book is called the Cosma hypothesis. Tell me about that title, Frank. That book or this book? Really does a merge from my work on the overview act and the experience of astronauts and stays. And it goes back to the question of why we're doing it and the need for a new philosophy of stay sexploitation. And Cosma is a personal name that I came up with for the universe. Okay. I'm originally. I thought did the publishers supposed to say cosmic, and they made a mistake. No, no. This is a, but it also has has a history with the guy hypothesis because the guy offices says the earth is a living organism. Yeah. It's a living organism injure connected. Life is essential to it. Life is not just a passenger on a big rock. That's going around the Sun Life moles the earth to its needs. And I drew on that to say, well, what about the universe navy? The universe is similar in that everything is interconnected, and maybe life is extremely important. And so I just built on the guy concept and the whole point of it is really to ask the question. Why is it that was the? Billions of years of evolution on this planet. Why is it that we suddenly have a species that can become a stay faring species can become a multi planet civilization. And when I say, why is it? I I mean, why does the environment of the universe? Why as it then friendly to that happening? I started out wanting to come up with a new philosophy of space exploration shortly. After the challenger accident in nineteen eighty six and there was a TV show this week with David Brinkley. And they had is Agha's Amasi and Tom Wolfe and George will trying to justify. Human space exploration. If we're going to have people dying to do it. And I mean, what really not wanting to do it. But dying in the process, and George will said to Tom Wolfe. Haven't we had sort of banal reason for stayce exploration? Like nonstick frying, pans, and Tom will said, you're exactly right. We've never had a philosophy of space exploration in this country. But as I pondered that it struck me that all of our reasons where human centered it was all about exploitation what we were going to get out of it. So in in writing this book, I asked myself from universal point of view. What are we bringing to the party? And also met way it seemed that what we have uniquely is. We are. We are a form of life. And we do have life in abundance on the earth. And we are intelligent beings though. We don't always act that way. And actually, we're finding that intelligence permeates the animal world as well. And we have a self awareness. So the hypothesis is that our purpose is to spread life intelligence and south awareness through the cosmos. My friend. Rick Tomlinson, says we are here to go there. And I wish I could have come up with a short pithy phrase like that. But I had to write an entire book. We we also need to use space Frank to help humanity here. Don't you think? Yeah. And again, this is something we shouldn't lose sight of one of the things I do at Meyer about Jeff Bezos vision is that he's completely bought into that. And he says this is the best planet planet earth is the best planet and his vision. Has an integral part of it is improving life on earth. That's so important Frank. We're gonna take a quick break. But we're gonna come back and talk more about your latest work, the Cozma hypothesis. I wanna get your take for example on the space force that President Trump wants to implement what's happening there. And we'll be back with more phone calls next hour.

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"rick tomlinson" Discussed on 106.1 FM WTKK

106.1 FM WTKK

04:09 min | 2 years ago

"rick tomlinson" Discussed on 106.1 FM WTKK

"Earth is a living organism. Yeah. It's a living organism interconnected. Life is essential to it. Life is not just a passenger on a big rock. That's going around the Sun Life moles the earth to its needs. And I drew on that to say, well, what about the universe navy? The universe is similar in that everything is interconnected, and maybe life is extremely important. And so I just built on the guy concept and the whole point of it is really to ask the question. Why is it that with the billions of years of evolution on this planet? Why is it that we suddenly have a species that can become a stay faring species can become a multi planet civilization. And when I say, why is it? I I mean, why does the environment of the universe? Why as it? Then. Friendly to that happening. I started out wanting to come up with a new philosophy of space exploration shortly. After the challenger accident in nineteen eighty six and there was a TV show this week with David Brinkley. And they had is as of and Tom Wolfe and George will trying to justify. Human space exploration. If we're going to have people dying to do it. And I named literally not wanting to do it. But dying in the process, and George will said to Tom Wolfe. Haven't we had sort of a nal reason for space exploration like nonstick frying, pans, and Tom will said, you're exactly right. We've never had a philosophy of space exploration in this country. But as I pondered that it struck me that all of our reasons were human centered. It was all about exploitation what we were going to get out of it. So in in writing this book, I asked myself from universal point of view. What are we bringing to the party? And ultimately, it seemed that what we have uniquely is. We are. We are a form of life. And we do have life in abundance on the earth. And we are intelligent beings though. We don't always act that way. And actually, we're finding that intelligence primates the animal world as well. And we have a self awareness. So the hypothesis is that our purpose is to spread life intelligence and south awareness through the cosmos. My friend. Rick Tomlinson, says we are here to go there. And I wish I could come up with a short pithy phrase like that. But I had to write an entire book. We also need to use space Frank to help humanity here. Don't you think? Yeah. And again, this is something we shouldn't lose sight of one of the things. I do admire about Jeff visas vision is that he's completely bought into that. And he says this is the best planet planet earth is the best planet and his vision has an integral part of it is improving life on earth. That's so important Frank. We're gonna take a quick break. But we're gonna come back and talk more about your latest work, the Cozma hypothesis. I wanna get your take for example on the space force that President Trump wants to implement what's happening there. And we'll be back with more phone calls next hour with Frank white..

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"rick tomlinson" Discussed on WTVN

WTVN

04:14 min | 2 years ago

"rick tomlinson" Discussed on WTVN

"Says the earth is a living organism. Yeah. It's a living organism injure connected. Life is essential to it. Life is not just a passenger on a big rock. That's going around the Sun Life moles the earth to its needs. And I drew on that to say, well, what about the universe navy? The universe is similar in that everything is interconnected, and maybe life is extremely important. And so I just built on the guy concept and the whole point of it is really to ask the question. Why is it that with the? Billions of years of evolution on this planet. Why is it that we suddenly have a species that can become a stay faring species can become a multi planet civilization. And when I say, why is it? I mean, why does the environment of the universe? Why as it then friendly to that happening? I started out wanting to come up with a new philosophy of space exploration. Shortly after the challenger accident in nineteen eighty six and there was a TV show this week with David Brinkley. And they had is as of and Tom Wolfe and George will trying to justify. Human space exploration. If we're going to have people dying to do it. And I mean, literally not wanting to do it. But dying in the process, and George will said to Tom Wolfe. Haven't we had sort of a all reason for space exploration? Like nonstick frying, pans, and Tom will said, you're exactly right. We've never had a philosophy of space exploration in this country. But as I pondered that it struck me that all of our reasons were human centered. It was all about exploitation what we were going to get out of it. So in in writing this book, I asked myself from universal point of view. What are we bringing to the party? And ultimately, it seemed that what we have uniquely is. We are. We are a form of life. And we do have life in abundance on the earth. And we are intelligent beings that we don't always act that way. And actually, we're finding that intelligence permeates the animal world as well. And we have a self awareness. So the hypothesis is that our purpose is to spread life intelligence and self awareness through the cosmos. My friend. Rick Tomlinson, says we are here to go there. And I wish I could come up with a short pithy phrase like that. But I had to write an entire book. We also need to use space Frank to help humanity here. Don't you think? Yeah. And again, this is something we shouldn't lose sight of one of the things I do at Meyer about Jeff Bezos vision is that he's completely bought into that. And he says this is the best planet planet earth is the best planet and his vision has an integral part of it is improving life on earth. That's so important Frank. We're gonna take a quick break. But we're gonna come back and talk more about your latest work, the Cozma hypothesis. I wanna get your take her example on the space force that President Trump wants to implement what's happening there. And we'll be back with more phone calls next hour with Frank white. Find out more about tonight's guest..

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"rick tomlinson" Discussed on KTRH

KTRH

04:14 min | 2 years ago

"rick tomlinson" Discussed on KTRH

"Offices says the earth is a living organism. Yeah. It's a living organism injure connected. Life is essential to life is not just a passenger on a big rock. That's going around the Sun Life moles the earth to its needs. And I drew on that to say, well, what about the universe navy? The universe is similar in that everything is interconnected, and maybe life is extremely important. And so I just built on the guy concept and the whole point of it is really to ask the question. Why is it that with the? Billions of years of evolution on this planet. Why is it that we suddenly have a stay? She's that can become a state faring species can become a multi planet civilization. And when I say, why is it? I I mean, why does the environment of the universe? Why as it then friendly to that happening? I started out wanting to come up with a new philosophy of space exploration. Shortly after the challenger accident in nineteen eighty six and there was a TV show this week with David Brinkley. And they had is as of and Tom Wolfe and George will trying to justify human space exploration. If we're going to have people dying to do it. And I named literally not wanting to do it. But dying in the process, and George will said to Tom Wolfe, haven't we had sort of a novel reason for stayce exploration like nonstick frying, pans, and Tom will said, you're exactly right. We've never had a philosophy of space exploration in this country. But as I pondered that it struck me that all of our reasons where human centered it was all about exploitation what we were going to get out of it. So in in writing this book, I asked myself from universal point of view. What are we bringing to the party? And ultimately, it seems that what we have uniquely is. We are. We are a form of life. And we do have life in abundance on the earth. And we are intelligent beings. We don't always act that way. And actually, we're finding that intelligence primates the animal world as well. And we have a self awareness. So the hypothesis is that our purpose is to spread life intelligence and south awareness through the cosmos. My friend. Rick Tomlinson, says we are here to go there. And I wish I could come up with a short pithy phrase like that. But I had to write an entire book. We also need to use space Frank to help humanity here. Don't you think? Yeah. And again, this is something we shouldn't was of one of the things I do at Meyer about jesse's vision is that he's completely bought into that. And he says this is the best planet planet earth is the best planet and his vision has an integral part of it is improving life on earth. That's so important Frank. We're gonna take a quick break. But we're gonna come back and talk more about your latest work, the Cozma hypothesis. I wanna get your take for example on the space force that President Trump wants to implement what's happening there. And we'll be back with more phone calls next hour with Frank white. Find out more.

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"rick tomlinson" Discussed on Newsradio 1200 WOAI

Newsradio 1200 WOAI

04:08 min | 2 years ago

"rick tomlinson" Discussed on Newsradio 1200 WOAI

"Says the earth is a living organism. Yeah. It's a living organism interconnected. Life is essential to life is not just a passenger on a big rock. That's going around the Sun Life moles the earth to its needs. And I drew on that to say, well, what about the universe navy? The universe is similar in that everything is interconnected, and maybe life is extremely important. And so I just built on the guy concept and the whole point of it is really to ask the question. Why is it that Billions of years of evolution on this planet. Why is it that we suddenly have a species that can become a stay faring species can become a multi planet civilization. And when I say, why is it? I I mean, why does the environment of the universe by as it then friendly to that happening? I started out wanting to come up with a new philosophy of space exploration shortly. After the challenger accident in nineteen eighty six and there was a TV show this week with David Brinkley. And they had is as of and Tom Wolfe and George will trying to justify. Human space exploration. If we're going to have people dying to do it. And I mean, literally not wanting to do it. But dying in the process, and George will said to Tom Wolfe. Haven't we had sort of a knoll reason for space exploration like nonstick frying, pans, and Tom will said, you're exactly right. We've never had a philosophy of space exploration in this country. But as I pondered that it struck me that all of our reasons where human centered it was all about exploitation what we were going to get out of it. So in in writing this book, I asked myself from universal point of view. What are we bringing to the party? And ultimately, it seemed that what we have uniquely is. We are. We are a form of life. And we do have life in abundance on the earth. And we are intelligent beings though. We don't always act that way. And actually, we're finding that intelligence permeates the animal world as well. And we have a self awareness. So the hypothesis is that our purpose is to spread life intelligence and self-awareness through the cosmos. My friend. Rick Tomlinson, says we are here to go there. And I wish I could come up with a short pithy phrase like that. But I had to write an entire book. We also need to use space Frank to help humanity here. Don't you think? Yeah. And again, this is something we shouldn't lose sight of one of the things. I do admire about Jeff these vision is that he is completely bought into that. And he says this is the best planet planet earth is the best planet and his vision has an integral part of it is improving life on earth. That's so important Frank. We're gonna take a quick break. But we're gonna come back and talk more about your latest work, the Cozma hypothesis. I wanna get your take for example on the space force that President Trump wants to implement what's happening there. And.

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"rick tomlinson" Discussed on KNST AM 790

KNST AM 790

05:27 min | 2 years ago

"rick tomlinson" Discussed on KNST AM 790

"So we have to keep re iterating the value of space exploration to the public every four to eight years, and it if you wanna democracy, you can't you can't help it. But it does make it hard to have an ongoing space policy. Title of your new book is called the Cosma hypothesis. Tell me about that title Franken. That book or this book really does a merge from my work on the overview effect, and the experience of astronauts and stays. And it goes back to the question of why we're doing it and the need for a new philosophy of space exploration and Cosma is a personal name that I came up with for the universe. Okay. I'm originally did the publisher supposed to say cosmic, and they made a mistake. No, no, this is. But it also has has a history with the guy hypothesis because the guy offices says the earth is a living organism. Yeah. It's a living organism interconnected. Life is essential to life is not just a passenger on a big rock. That's going around the Sun Life moles the earth to its needs. And I drew on that to say, well, what about the universe navy? The universe is similar in that everything is interconnected, and maybe life is extremely important. And so I just built on the guy concept and the whole point of it is really to ask the question. Why is it that with the billions of years of evolution on this planet? Why is it that we suddenly have a species that can become a stay faring species can become a multi planet civilization. And when I say, why is it? I I mean, why does the environment of the universe by as it? Then. Friendly to that happening. I started out wanting to come up with a new philosophy of space exploration shortly. After the challenger accident in nineteen eighty six and there was a TV show this week with David Brinkley. And they had is as a mob, and Tom Wolfe and George will trying to justify. Human space exploration. If we're going to have people dying to do it. And I mean, literally not wanting to do it. But dying in the process, and George will said to Tom Wolfe. Haven't we had sort of banal reason for space exploration? Like nonstick frying, pans, and Tom will said, you're exactly right. We've never had a philosophy of space exploration in this country. But as I pondered that it struck me that all of our reasons where human centered it was all about exploitation what we were going to get out of it. So in in writing this book, I asked myself from universal point of view. What are we bringing to the party? And alternate way. It seemed that what we have uniquely is. We are. We are a form of life. And we do have life in abundance on the earth. And we are intelligent the ings though. We don't always act that way. And actually, we're finding that intelligence primates the animal world as well. And we have a self awareness. So the hypothesis is that our purpose is to spread life intelligence and self awareness through the cosmos. My friend. Rick Tomlinson, says we are here to go there. And I wish I could come up with a short pithy phrase like that. But I had to write an entire book. We we also need to use space Frank to help humanity here. Don't you think? Yeah. And again, this is something we shouldn't lose sight of one of the things. I do admire about Jeff these vision is that he's completely bought into that. And he says this is the best planet planet earth is the best planet and his vision has an integral part of it is improving life on earth. That's so important Frank. We're gonna take a quick break. But we're gonna come back and talk more about your latest work, the Cozma hypothesis. I wanna get your take for example on the space force that President Trump wants to implement what's happening there. And we'll be back with more phone calls next hour.

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"rick tomlinson" Discussed on NewsRadio KFBK

NewsRadio KFBK

12:23 min | 2 years ago

"rick tomlinson" Discussed on NewsRadio KFBK

"Been building for many many years. I think we're going to see the breakout of humanity into the solar system far more rapidly than people expect because it's not an overnight. Phenomenon. Jeff these of has been thinking about this and planning this since they saw Neil Armstrong walk on the moon. You know, Elon Musk Richard Branson, they've all been entrenched like you, and like me at the possibilities of human space settlement and exploration, and they've been working toward this. And now they have the resources to jump in there and become a role models for many many other entrepreneurs. And that's also important. There's a critical mass of people who are trying to become the next blue origin or. And venture capitalist or investing in it. And then we have another change that's worth noting for the American audience switches NASA has shifted its approach from being somewhat cool to the entrepeneurship space movement to embracing it and you notice when Jeff Bezos was talking yesterday. He spoke about Mike Pence telling nessa we need to get there. We need to get to the moon. Much more quickly. And Jeff in braced it. He said, we're ready to go. We'll be part of it. If you need us. And and of course, a lunar Lander is a big part of that. So the other thing that has always been a problem is re is ability, and it is the private sector. It's Alon musk, and Jeff these those who have been able to perfect reasonable rockets, and and really Rian, you know, really ensure low cost access to orbit disappointed though, that NASA has backed off the way it has in terms of space exploration. Well, I'm not really disappointed. I think that they're they're they're doing their part. I think they've made some good decisions lately in the sense that they are saying we're going to move into deep space. We're going to be taking the next step. We're going to we're going to leave lower orbit to the private sector. I think they're making the right decision there, even though it may not seem as exciting as Apollo. I think one of the problems NASA has really is post Apollo fatigue. That was such an exciting time. I lived through it. It was just an amazing decade was when they had that goal and that unified approach and a strong reason for doing it. And I think that NASA has been to some extent. People have been asking, where's the next Apollo? And I'm not sure that's really fair to the agency because we do need these step by step incremental activities, and they're still there and they're doing that. So, you know, I'd love to see them doing much more votes ventures, but they're also servants of the people servants of the political system. So NASA can't can't set these goals by themselves. They be the ones to basically go to, you know, Beazely his company or Elon Musk or whomever is involved in this and say we want to go back to the moon bid because we want your company to be part of the process. Do you think they'll basically be the focal point the contract, give her wall? These other companies the private companies are the builders of these rockets. Well, I think that may be what happens and. People who know about the history of the space program will point out that this is not so dramatically different from the past in the sense that NASA didn't really Bill the rockets that went to the moon and took us into low-earth orbit. Again. It was contractors. It's just that. It was. Excuse me in those days. It was the old aerospace companies. That's right. What we call old space, the grens and companies like that. And now, it's new space. Zosen musk and people of that generation. I think it was very telling that Mike Pence when he announced a more rapid return to the moon said, we're not changing the mission. We might change those who carry it out. And I don't think it was an accident that these yesterday said he was happy with the Pence commandment, and he was ready to go. I think that if it looks like the best way to get back to the moon is to work with him or Eli musk or some other new space entrepreneur, I think Nestle do that. I have no inside knowledge. But I think they will will pay the Bill because B's those isn't going to build this in just go on his own because he wants to go to the moon. Somebody's got to pay for it. Right. Who's gonna pay for it? Yeah. Well, if you think about it the linear Lander that he unveiled yesterday. I don't know. But I I think actually I think NASA did put some money into that. But at the same time, I think it's going to be a public private partnership because I know Jeff visas putting a huge amount of his own money into into this effort. So, you know, the taxpayers will pay part of the Bill, and of course, once again. This goes back to my work. I'd say which is the why we doing this. What are the what are the virtues of doing it? And I think that one of the biggest problems with American space policy, and we all know, it is that it can change with a new administration. President Obama actually said we're not going to the moon. He said we've done that. We're going to Mars, and of course, a lot of people applauded. That's great. Let's don't do what we've already done. President Trump comes in and says, well, no we are going to go to the moon. So it it we have to keep re iterating the value of space exploration to the public every four to eight years, and it if you wanna democracy, you can't you can't help it. But it does make it hard to have an ongoing space policy. Title of your new book is called the Cosma hypothesis. Tell me about that title, Frank. That book or this book? Really does a merge from my work on the overview effect and the experience of astronauts and space. And it goes back to the question of why we're doing it and the need for a new philosophy of space exploration and Cosma is a personal name that I came up with for the universe. Okay. Originally. I thought did the publisher supposed to say cosmic and they made a mistake. No, no. This is a, but it also has has a history with the guy hypothesis because the guy offices says the earth is a living organism. Yeah. It's a living organism interconnected. Life is essential to life is not just a passenger on a big rock. That's going around the Sun Life moles the earth to its needs. And I drew on that to say, well, what about the universe navy? The universe is similar in that everything is interconnected. And maybe life is extremely important. And so I just built on the guy concept and the whole point of it is really to ask the question. Why is it that with the billions of years of evolution on this planet? Why is it that we suddenly have a species that can become a stay staring species can become a multi planet civilization. And when I say, why is it? I mean, why does the environment of the universe? Why as it then friendly to that happening? I started out wanting to come up with a new philosophy of space exploration shortly. After the challenger accident in nineteen eighty six and there was a TV show this week with David Brinkley. And they had is academy of and Tom Wolfe and George will trying to justify human space exploration. If we're going to have people dying to do it. And I named literally not wanting to do it. But dying in the process. And George will said to Tom Wolfe, haven't we had sort of banal reason for space exploration like nonstick frying, pans, and Tom will said, you're exactly right. We've never had a philosophy of space exploration in this country. But as I pondered that it struck me that all of our reasons were human centered. It was all about exploitation what we were going to get out of it. So in in writing this book, I asked myself from universal point of view. What are we bringing to the party? And ultimately, it seemed that what we have uniquely is. We are. We are a form of life. And we do have life in abundance on the earth. And we are intelligent the ings. We don't always act that way. And actually, we're finding that intelligence primates the animal world as well. And we have a self awareness. So the hypothesis is that our purpose is to spread life intelligence and self awareness through the cosmos. My friend. Rick Tomlinson, says we are here to go there. And I wish I could have come up with a short pithy phrase like that. But I had to write an entire book. We also need to use space Frank to help humanity here. Don't you think? Yeah. And again, this is something we shouldn't lose sight of one of the things. I do admire about Jeff these vision is that he's completely bought into that. And he says this is the best planet planet earth is the best planet and his vision has an integral part of it is improving life on earth. That's so important Frank. We're gonna take a quick break. But we're gonna come back and talk more about your latest work, the Cozma hypothesis. I wanna get your take for example on the space force that President Trump wants to implement what's happening there. And we'll be back with more phone calls next hour with Frank white. Find out more about tonight's guest..

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"rick tomlinson" Discussed on WTVN

WTVN

04:13 min | 2 years ago

"rick tomlinson" Discussed on WTVN

"Says the earth is a living organism. Yeah. It's a living organism interconnected. Life is essential to life is not just a passenger on a big rock. That's going around the Sun Life moles the earth to its needs. And I drew on that to say, well, what about the universe navy? The universe is similar in that everything is interconnected, and maybe life is extremely important. And so I just built on the guy concept and the whole point of it is really to ask the question. Why is it that with the billions of years of evolution on this planet? Why is it that we suddenly have a species that can become a stay faring species can become a multi planet civilization. And when I say, why is it? I mean, why does the environment of the universe by as it? Then. Friendly to that happening. I started out wanting to come up with a new philosophy of space exploration. Shortly after the challenger accident in nineteen eighty six and there was a TV show this week with David Brinkley, and they had Isaac Asimov, and Tom Wolfe and George will trying to justify human space exploration. If we're going to have people dying to do it. And I mean, literally not wanting to do it. But dying in the process, and George will said to Tom Wolfe. Haven't we had sort of a banal reason for space exploration like nonstick frying, pans, and Tom will said, you're exactly right. We've never had a philosophy of space exploration in this country. But as I pondered that it struck me that all of our reasons were human centered. It was all about exploitation what we were going to get out of it. So in in writing this book, I asked myself from universal point of view. What are we bringing to the party? And ultimately, it seemed that what we have uniquely is. We are. We are a form of life. And we do have life in abundance on the earth. And we are intelligent beings though. We don't always act that way. And actually, we're finding that intelligence primates the animal world as well. And we have a self awareness. So the hypothesis is that our purpose is to spread life intelligence and self awareness through the cosmos. My friend. Rick Tomlinson, says we are here to go there. And I wish I could come up with a short pithy phrase like that. But I had to write an entire book. We also need to use space Frank to help humanity here. Don't you think? Yeah. And again, this is something we shouldn't lose sight of one of the things. I do admire about Jeff visas vision is that he's completely bought into that. And he says this is the best planet planet earth is the best planet and his vision has an integral part of it is improving life on earth. That's so important Frank. We're gonna take a quick break. But we're going to come back and talk more about your latest work, the Cozma hypothesis. I wanna get your take for example on the space force that President Trump wants to implement what's happening there. And we'll be back with more phone calls next hour with Frank white. Find out more about tonight's.

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"rick tomlinson" Discussed on News Radio 920 AM

News Radio 920 AM

04:10 min | 2 years ago

"rick tomlinson" Discussed on News Radio 920 AM

"Offices says the earth is a living organism. Yeah. It's a living organism interconnected. Life is essential to life is not just a passenger on a big rock. That's going around the Sun Life moles the earth to its needs. And I drew on that to say, well, what about the universe navy? The universe is similar in that everything is interconnected, and maybe life is extremely important. And so I just built on the guy concept and the whole point of it is really to ask the question. Why is it that with the billions of years of evolution on this planet? Why is it that we suddenly have a species? That can become a stay faring species can become a multi planet civilization. And when I say, why is it? I mean, why does the environment of the universe? Why is it then friendly to that happening? I started out wanting to come up with a new philosophy of space exploration. Shortly after the challenger accident in one thousand nine hundred eighty six and there was a TV show this week with David Brinkley. And they had Isaac Asimov, and Tom Wolfe and George will trying to justify. Human space exploration. If we're going to have people dying to do it. And I name literally not wanting to do it. But dying in the process, and George will said to Tom Wolfe. Haven't we had sort of a banal reason for space exploration like nonstick frying, pans, and Tom will said, you're exactly right. We've never had a philosophy of space exploration in this country. But as I pondered that it struck me that all of our reasons where human centered it was all about exploitation what we were going to get out of it. So in in writing this book, I asked myself from universal point of view. What are we bringing to the party? And ultimately, it seemed that what we have uniquely is. We are. We are a form of life. And we do have life in abundance on the earth. And we are intelligent beings though. We don't always act that way. And actually, we're finding that intelligence permeates the animal world as well. And we have a self awareness. So the hypothesis is that our purpose is to spread life intelligence and self awareness through the cosmos. My friend. Rick Tomlinson, says we are here to go there. And I wish I could have come up with a short pithy phrase like that. But I had to write an entire book. We also need to use space Frank to help humanity here. Don't you think? Yeah. And again, this is something we shouldn't was site of one of the things. I do admire about Jeff Bezos vision is that he's completely bought into that. And he says this is the best planet planet earth is the best planet and his vision has an integral part of it is improving life on earth. That's so important Frank. We're gonna take a quick break. But we're going to come back and talk more about your latest work, the Cozma hypothesis. I wanna get your take for example on the space force that President Trump wants to implement what's happening there. And we'll be back with more phone.

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"rick tomlinson" Discussed on 600 WREC

600 WREC

04:04 min | 2 years ago

"rick tomlinson" Discussed on 600 WREC

"Organism. Yeah. It's a living organism interconnected. Life is essential to life is not just a passenger on a big rock. That's going around the Sun Life moles the earth to its needs. And I drew on that to say, well, what about the universe navy? The universe is similar in that everything is interconnected. And maybe life is extremely important. And so I just built on the guy concept and the whole point of it is really to ask the question. Why is it that with the billions of years of evolution on this planet? Why is it that we suddenly have a species that can become a stage faring species can become a multi planet civilization. And when I say, why is it? I I mean, why does the environment of the universe? Why is it then friendly to that happening? I started out wanting to come up with a new philosophy of space exploration shortly. After the challenger accident in nineteen eighty six and there was a TV show this week with David Brinkley. And they had is as of and Tom Wolfe and George will trying to justify. Human space exploration. If we're going to have people dying to do it. And I named literally not wanting to do it. But dying in the process, and George will said to Tom Wolfe. Haven't we had sort of a all reason for stayce exploration? Like nonstick frying, pans, and Tom will said, you're exactly right. We've never had a philosophy of space exploration in this country. But as I pondered that it struck me that all of our reasons were human centered. It was all about exploitation what we were going to get out of it. So in in writing this book, I asked myself from universal point of view. What are we bringing to the party? And also lately. It seemed that what we have uniquely is. We are. We are a form of life. And we do have life in abundance on the earth. And we are intelligent beings though. We don't always act that way. And actually, we're finding that intelligence primates the animal world as well. And we have a self awareness. So the hypothesis is that our purpose is to spread life intelligence itself awareness through the cosmos. My friend. Rick Tomlinson, says we are here to go there. And I wish I could come up with a short pithy phrase like that. But I had to write an entire book. We also need to use space Frank to help humanity here. Don't you think? Yeah. And again, this is something we shouldn't lose sight of one of the things. I do admire about Jeff these vision is that he's completely bought into that. And he says this is the best planet planet earth is the best planet and his vision has an integral part of it is improving life on earth. That's so important Frank. We're going to take a quick break. But we're gonna come back and talk more about your latest work, the Cozma hypothesis. I wanna get your take for example on the space force that President Trump wants to implement what's happening there. And we'll be back with more phone.

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"rick tomlinson" Discussed on KFI AM 640

KFI AM 640

15:50 min | 2 years ago

"rick tomlinson" Discussed on KFI AM 640

"Is very important to me. He was one of the early astronauts, I interviewed, and if you look at the book, the overview fact, that interview is is recorded there. Of all the astronauts. He had perhaps the most profound reaction to his experience. He might have spent the most time trying to grasp the meaning of it for humanity and for himself. And he's also been a great supporter of my work of the work of the overview institute, the work of many other organizations that are looking at what we might call the human side of space exploration. He tried to conduct his own mind experiments while he was on the way to the moon, and as you said Frank with his head a profound effect on him. He came back. I think it changed man. He was a believer in extraterrestrial life told me once that he had never seen ET's or you Afo. So, but that he was told by people in government, it's out there. It's happening. Just a wonderful individual missing missing a lot. I do too. And and again, I just well for me is more or less in that same category is Jerry Neil in the sense of the impact he's had on my work. That's great now as you mentioned visas Thursday unveiled his moon Lander, which he claims, we'll take astronauts to the moon by twenty twenty four this privatization of space is really moving along faster than I thought how about you. Yeah. I mean, it's it's happening very very quickly. And you know, if you read about exponential curves where? He's still there. I think we've lost him. Michael do you get him? Okay. We'll have done a give them a call back in. Let's try to get him back on he disappeared right at that point, just poof, gone simply gone, and what we're talking about is I wanted to get into his title with them because only he can explain it to us the Cozma hypothesis, which talks about the implication of the overview effect. The apparently, astronauts when they went to the moon in other places just had a profound effect on who they are in what they did Frank. We got your back now. Yes, I'm here. Sorry about the disappearance. That's care thought. Maybe the aliens got you just as we were talking about it. But where you know, they don't want this to come out. No, no, not yet. We were talking about the privatization of space in in how this was moving along at such a rapid clip. And you were in the middle of Saint something. Go ahead. Well, I was saying that it's happening. Suddenly, although it's been building for many many years. I think we're going to see the breakout if humanity into the solar system far more rapidly than people expect because it's not an overnight. Phenomenon. Jeff Bezos has been thinking about this and planning this since he saw Neil Armstrong walk on the moon. You know, Elon Musk Richard Branson, they've all been entrenched like you, and like me at the possibilities of human stay settlement and exploration and they've been working toward this. And now they have the resources to jump in there and become a role models for many many other entrepreneurs. And that's also important. There's a critical mess of people who are trying to become the next blue origin. Ex and venture capitalist are investing in it. And then we have another change that's worth noting for the American audience switches NASA has shifted its approach from being somewhat cool to the entrepreneurial space movement to embracing it. And you notice when Jeff Bezos was talking yesterday. He spoke about Mike Pence telling NASA we need to get there. We need to get to the moon. Much more quickly. And Jeff embraced it. He said, we're ready to go. We'll be part of it. If you need us. And and of course, the lunar Lander is a big part of that. So the other thing that has always been a problem is reusability. And it is the private sector. It's Alon musk, and Jeff these those who have been able to perfect reasonable rockets, and and really Rian, you know, really ensure low cost access to orbit. Frankly, you disappointed though that NASA has backed off the way it has in terms of space exploration. Well, I'm not really disappointed. I think that they're they're they're doing their part. I think they've made some good decisions lately in the sense that they are saying we're going to move into deep space. We're going to be taking the next step. We're going to we're going to leave lower orbit to the private sector. I think they're making the right decision there, even though it may not seem as exciting as Apollo. I think one of the problems NASA has really is post Apollo fatigue. That was such an exciting time. I lived through it. It was just an amazing decade was when they had that goal and that unified approach and a strong reason for doing it. And I think that NASA has been to some extent. People have been asking, where's the next Apollo? And I'm not sure that's really fair to the agency because we do need these step by step incremental activities, and they're still there and they're doing that. So, you know, I'd love to see them doing much more votes ventures, but they're also servants of the people servants of the political system. So NASA can't can't set these goals by themselves. Will they be the ones to basically go to the know his company or Elon Musk or whomever is involved in this and say we want to go back to the moon bid because we want your company to be part of the process in the think, they'll basically be the focal point the contract, give her while these other companies, the private companies are the builders of these rockets. Well, I think that maybe what happens and. People who know a lot about the history of the space program will point out that this is not so dramatically different from the past in the sense that NASA didn't really Bill the rockets that went to the moon and took us into low-earth orbit. Again. It was contractors. It's just that. It was. Fears me in those days. It was the old aerospace companies such right what we call old faith, the Grubman's and companies like that. And now, it's new stays these oh in musk and people of that generation. I think it was very telling that Mike Pence when he announced a more rapid return to the moon said, we're not changing the mission. We might change those who carry it out. And I don't think it was an accident that these us yesterday said he was happy with the Pence commandment, and he was ready to go. I think that if it looks like the best way to get back to the moon is to work with him or Yvonne musk or some other news space entrepreneur, I think Nestle do that. I have no inside knowledge. But I think they will who will pay the Bill because beeswax isn't going to build this in just go on his own because he wants to go to the moon. Somebody's gonna pay for it. Right. Who's gonna pay for it? Yeah. Well, if you think about it the lunar Lander that he unveiled yesterday. I don't know. But I I think actually I think NASA did put some money into that. But at the same time, I think it's going to be a public private partnership because I know Jeff Bezos is putting a huge amount of his own money into into this effort. So, you know, the taxpayers will pay part of the Bill, and of course, once again. This goes back to my work. I'd say which is the why doing this? What are the what are the virtues of doing it? And I think that one of the biggest problems with American space policy, and we all know, it is that it can change with a new administration. President Obama actually said we're not going to the moon. He said we've done that. We're going to Mars, and of course, a lot of people applauded, and that's great. Let's don't do what we've already done. President Trump comes in and says, well, no we are going to go to the moon. So it we have to keep re iterating the value of space exploration to the public every four to eight years, and it if you wanna democracy, you can't you can't help it. But it does make it hard to have an ongoing space policy. The title of your new book is called the Cosma hypothesis. Tell me about that title, Frank. That book or this book? Really does emerge from my work on the overview effect and the experience of astronaut since they? And it goes back to the question of why we're doing it and the need for a new philosophy of space exploration. And Cosma is a personal name that I came up with for the universe. Okay. Originally thought did the publishers supposed to say cosmic and they made a mistake. No, no. This is a, but it also has has a history with the guy hypothesis because the guy offices says the earth is a living organism. Yeah. It's a living organism interconnected. Life is essential to life is not just a passenger on a big rock. That's going around the Sun Life moles the earth to its needs. And I drew on that to say, well, what about the universe navy? The universe is similar in that everything is interconnected. And maybe life is extremely important. And so I just built on the guy concept and the whole point of it is really to ask the question. Why is it that with the billions of years of evolution on this planet? Why is it that we suddenly have a species that can become a stay staring St. she's can become a multi planet civilization. And when I say, why is it? I mean, why does the environment of the universe by as it then friendly to that happening? I started out wanting to come up with a new philosophy space exploration shortly. After the challenger accident in nineteen eighty six and there was a TV show this week with David Brinkley. And then they had Isaac Asimov, and Tom Wolfe and George will trying to justify human space exploration. If we're going to have people dying to do it. And I mean, literally not wanting to do it, but dying in the process. And George will said to Tom Wolfe, haven't we had sort of banal reason for space exploration like nonstick frying, pans, and Tom will said, you're exactly right. We've never had a philosophy of space exploration in this country. But as I pondered that it struck me that all of our reasons were human centered. It was all about exploitation what we were going to get out of it. So in in writing this book, I asked myself from universal point of view. What are we bringing to the party? And ultimately, it seemed that what we have uniquely is. We are. We are a form of life. And we do have life in abundance on the earth. And we are intelligent beings. We don't always act that way. And actually, we're finding that intelligence permeates the animal world as well. And we have a self awareness. So the hypothesis is that our purpose is to spread life intelligence and self-awareness through the cosmos. My friend. Rick Tomlinson, says we are here to go there. And I wish I could have come up with a short pithy phrase like that. But I had to write an entire book. We we also need to use space Frank to help humanity here. Don't you think? Yeah. And again, this is something we shouldn't lose sight of one of the things I do at Meyer about Jeff Bezos vision is that he's completely bought into that. And he says this is the best planet planet earth is the best planet and his vision has an integral part of it is improving life on earth. That's so important Frank. We're gonna take a quick break. But we're gonna come back and talk more about your latest work, the Cozma hypothesis. I wanna get your take for example on the space force that President Trump wants to implement what's happening there. And we'll be back with more phone calls next hour with Franquet find out more about tonight's guest. Log on to coast to coast AM dot com. It breaks. From.

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"rick tomlinson" Discussed on KOA 850 AM

KOA 850 AM

15:07 min | 2 years ago

"rick tomlinson" Discussed on KOA 850 AM

"Meaning of it for humanity and for himself. And he's also been a great supporter of my work of the work of the overview institute, the work of many other organizations that are looking at. What we might call the human side of space exploration. He tried to conduct his own mind experiments while he was on the way to the moon, and as you said Frank with his had a profound effect on him. He came back. I think a changed man. He was a believer in extraterrestrial life told me once that he had never seen ET's or you Afo. So, but that he was told by people in government, it's out there. It's happening. Just a wonderful individual miss him. I miss him a lot. I do too. And and again, I just well for me his more or less than that. Same category is Jerry Neil in the sense of the impact he's had on my work. That's great now as you mentioned visas Thursday unveiled his moon Lander, which he claims, we'll take astronauts to the moon by twenty twenty four this privatization of space is really moving along faster than I thought how about you. Yeah. I mean, it's it's happening very very quickly. And you know, if you read about exponential curves where? You still there? I think we've lost him. Michael do you get him? Okay. We'll have done give them a call back in. Let's try to get him back on disappeared right at that point, just poof, gone simply gone, and what we're talking about is I wanted to get into title with them because only he can explain it to us the Cozma hypothesis, which talks about the implication of the overview effect, apparently, astronauts when they went to the moon and other places just had a profound effect on who they are. And what they did Frank. We got your back now. Yes, I'm here. Sorry about the disappearance. That's care. I thought maybe the aliens got you just as we were talking about that. But you know, they don't want this to come out. No, no, not yet. We were talking about the privatization of space and in how this was moving along at such a rapid clip. And you were in the middle of Saint something. Go ahead. Well, I was saying that it's happening. Suddenly, although it's been building for many many years. I think we're going to see the breakout of humanity into the solar system far more rapidly than people expect because it's not an overnight. Phenomenon. Jeff Bezos has been thinking about this and planning this since he saw Neil Armstrong walk on the moon. You know, Elon Musk Richard Branson, they've all been entrenched like you, and like me at the possibilities of human space settlement and exploration, and they've been working toward this. And now they have the resources to jump in there and become a role models for many many other entrepreneurs. And that's also important. There's a critical mass of people who are trying to become the next blue origin. And venture capitalist are investing in it. And then we have another change that's worth noting for the American audience switches NASA has shifted its approach from being somewhat cool to the entrepreneurial space movement to embracing it. And you notice when Jeff Bezos was talking yesterday. He spoke about Mike Pence telling NASA we need to get there. We need to get to the moon. Much more quickly. And Jeff embraced it. He said, we're ready to go. We'll be part of it. If you need us. And and of course, the lunar Lander is a big part of that. So the other thing that has always been a problem is reasonably and it is the private sector. It's Alon musk and Jeff visas who have been able to perfect reasonable rockets, and and and really Rian, you know, really ensure low cost access to orbit frankly disappointed though, that NASA has backed off the way it has in terms of space exploration. Well, I'm not really disappointed. I think that they're they're they're doing their part. I think they've made some good decisions lately in the sense that they are saying we're going to move into deep space. We're going to be taking the next step. We're going to we're going to leave low-earth orbit to the private sector. I think they're making the right decision there, even though it may not seem as exciting as Apollo. I think one of the problems NASA has really is post Apollo fatigue. That was such an exciting time. I lived through it. It was just an amazing decade was when they had that goal and that unified approach and a strong reason for doing it. And I think that NASA has been to some extent. People have been asking, where's the next Apollo? And I'm not sure that's really fair to the agency because we do need these step by step incremental activities, and they're still there and they're doing that. So, you know, I'd love to see them doing much more bolts ventures, but they're also servants of the people servants of the political system. So NASA can't can't set these goals by themselves. Will they be the ones to basically go to the, you know, Beazely his company or Elon Musk or whomever is involved in this and say we want to go back to the moon bid because we want your company to be part of the process. Do you think they'll basically be the focal point the contract give her while these other companies, the private companies are the builders of these rockets? Well, I think that maybe what happens and. People who know a lot about the history of the space program. We'll point out that this is not so dramatically different from the past in the sense that NASA didn't really build the rockets that went to the moon and took us into low-earth orbit. Again. It was contractors. It's just that. It was. Excuse me. And those days it was the old aerospace companies such right what we call old space the and companies like that. Yeah. And now, it's new space. These oh, Syn musk and people of that generation. I think it was very telling that Mike Pence when he announced a more rapid return to the moon said, we're not changing the mission. We might change those who carry it out. And I don't think it was an accident that these us yesterday said he was happy with the Pence commandment, and he was ready to go. I think that if it looks like the best way to get back to the moon is to work with him or Eli musk or some other new space entrepreneur, I think NASA, we'll do that. I have no inside knowledge. But I think they will cool. We'll pay the Bill because beeswax isn't going to build this in just go on his own because he wants to go to the moon. Somebody's got to pay for it. Right. Who's gonna pay for it? Yeah. Well, if you think about it the linear Lander that he unveiled yesterday. I don't know. But I I think actually I think NASA did put some money into that. But at the same time, I think it's going to be a public private partnership because I know Jeff Bezos is putting a huge amount of his own money into into this effort. So, you know, the taxpayers will pay part of the Bill, and of course, once again. This goes back to my work. I'd say which is the why doing this? What are the what are the virtues of doing it? And I think that one of the biggest problems with American space policy, and we all know, it is that it can change with a new administration. President Obama actually said we're not going to the moon. He said we've done that. We're going to Mars, and of course, a lot of people applauded. That's great. Let's don't do what we've already done. President Trump comes in and says, well, no we are going to go to the moon. So it we have to keep re iterating the value of space exploration to the public every four to eight years, and it if you want a democracy, you can't you can't help it. But it does make it hard to have an ongoing space policy. Title of your new book is called the Cosma hypothesis. Tell me about that title, Frank. That book or this book? Really does emerge from my work on the overview effect, and the experience of astronauts and space. And it goes back to the question of why we're doing it and the need for a new philosophy of space exploration. And Cosma is a personal name that I came up with for the universe. Okay. Originally thought did the publishers supposed to say cosmic and they made a mistake. No, no. This is a, but it also has has a history with the guy hypothesis because the guy offices says the earth is a living organism. Yeah. It's a living organism interconnected. Life is essential to it. Life is not just a passenger on a big rock. That's going around the Sun Life moles the earth to its needs. And I drew on that to say, well, what about the universe navy? The universe is similar in that everything is interconnected, and maybe life is extremely important. And so I just built on the guy concept and the whole point of it is really to ask the question. Why is it that with the billions of years of evolution on this planet? Why is it that we suddenly have a species that can become a stay faring species can become a multi planet civilization. And when I say, why is it? I mean, why does the environment of the universe? Why as it? Then. Friendly to that happening. I started out wanting to come up with a new philosophy of space exploration shortly. After the challenger accident in nineteen eighty six and there was a TV show this week with David Brinkley. And they had Isaac Asimov, and Tom Wolfe and George will trying to justify. Human space exploration. If we're going to have people dying to do it. And I named literally not wanting to do it. But dying in the process, and George will said to Tom Wolfe. Haven't we had sort of a banal reason for space exploration like nonstick frying, pans, and Tom will said, you're exactly right. We've never had a philosophy of space exploration in this country. But as I pondered that it struck me that all of our reasons where human centered it was all about exploitation what we were going to get out of it. So in in writing this book, I asked myself from universal point of view. What are we bringing to the party? And ultimately, it seemed that what we have uniquely is. We are. We are a form of life. And we do have life in abundance on the earth. And we are intelligent beings that we don't always act that way. And actually, we're finding that intelligence primates the animal world as well. And we have a self awareness. So the hypothesis is that our purpose is to spread life intelligence and self awareness through the cosmos. My friend. Rick Tomlinson, says we are here to go there. And I wish I could have come up with a short pithy phrase like that. But I had to write an entire book. We we also need to use space Frank to help humanity here. Don't you think? Yeah. And again, this is something we shouldn't lose sight of one of the things. I do admire about Jeff Bezos vision is that he's completely bought into that. And he says this is the best planet planet earth is the best planet and his vision has an integral part of it is improving life on earth. That's so important Frank. We're going to take a quick break. But we're gonna come back and talk more about your latest work, the Cozma hypothesis. I wanna get your take for example on the space force that President Trump wants to implement what's happening there. And we'll be back with more phone calls next hour with Franklin. Find out more about tonight's guest. Log on to coast to coast AM dot.

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"rick tomlinson" Discussed on KTOK

KTOK

11:59 min | 2 years ago

"rick tomlinson" Discussed on KTOK

"Since he saw Neil Armstrong walk on the moon. You know, Elon Musk Richard Branson, they've all been entrenched like you, and like me at the possibilities of human space settlement an exploration, and they've been working toward this. And now they have the resources to jump in there and become role models for many many other entrepreneurs. And that's also important. There's a critical mass of people who are trying to become the next blue origin or. And venture capitalist are investing in it. And then we have another change that's worth noting for the American audience switches NASA has shifted its approach from being somewhat cool to the entrepeneurship space movement to embracing it and you notice when Jeff Bezos was talking yesterday. He spoke about Mike Pence telling NASA we need to get there. We need to get to the moon. Much more quickly. And Jeff in braced it. He said, we're ready to go. We'll be part of it. If you need us. And and of course, the lunar Lander is a big part of that. So the other thing that has always been a problem is Reza -bility, and it is the private sector. It's Alon musk and jesse's those who have been able to perfect reasonable rockets, and and really Rian, you know, really ensure low cost access to orbit disappointed though, that NASA has backed off the way it has in terms of space exploration. Well, I'm not really disappointed. I think that they're they're they're doing their part. I think they've made some good decisions lately in the sense that they are saying we're going to move into deep space. We're going to be taking the next step. We're going to we're going to leave low-earth orbit to the private sector. I think they're making the right decision there, even though it may not seem as exciting as Apollo. I think one of the problems NASA has really as post Apollo fatigue. That was such an exciting time. I lived through it. It was just an amazing decade was when they had that goal and that unified approach and a strong reason for doing it. And I think that NASA has been to some extent. People have been asking, where's the next Apollo? And I'm not sure that's really fair to the agency because we do need these step by step incremental activities, and they're still there and they're doing that. So, you know, I'd love to see them doing much more votes ventures, but they're also servants of the people servants of the political system. So NASA can't can't set these goals by themselves. Will they be the ones to basically go to, you know, Beazely his company or Elon Musk or whomever is involved in this and say we want to go back to the moon bid because we want your company to be part of the process in the think, they'll basically be the focal point the contract, give her while these other companies, the private companies are the builders of these rockets. Well, I think that maybe what happens and. People who know a lot about the history of the space program will point out that this is not so dramatically different from the past in the sense that NASA didn't really build the rockets that went to the moon and took us into low-earth orbit. Again. It was contractors. It's just that. It was. Fusing and those days it was the old aerospace companies. That's right. What we call ole space and companies like that. And now, it's new stays these oh musk and people that generation I think it was very telling that Mike Pence when he announced a more rapid return to the moon said, we're not changing the mission. We might change those who carry it out. And I don't think it was an accident that these yesterday said he was happy with the Pence commandment, and he was ready to go. I think that if it looks like the best way to get back to the moon is to work with him or Alon musk or some other new space entrepreneur, I think Nestle do that. I have no inside knowledge. But I think they will will pay the Bill because beeswax isn't going to build this in just go on his own because he wants to go to the moon. Somebody's got to pay for it. Right. Who's gonna pay for it? Yeah. Well, if you think about it the lunar Lander that he unveiled yesterday. I don't know. But I I think actually I think NASA did put some money into that. But at the same time, I think it's going to be a public private partnership because I know Jeff Bezos is putting a huge amount of his own money into into this effort. So, you know, the taxpayers will pay part of the Bill, and of course, once again. This goes back to my work. I'd say which is the why doing this? What are the what are the virtues of doing it? And I think that one of the biggest problems with American space policy, and we all know, it is that it can change with a new administration. President Obama actually said we're not going to the moon. He said we've done that. We're going to Mars, and of course, a lot of people applauded, and that's great. Let's don't do what we've already done. President Trump comes in and says, well, no we are gonna go to the moon. So it we have to keep re iterating the value of space exploration to the public every four to eight years, and it if you wanna democracy, you can't you can't help it. But it does make it hard to have an ongoing space policy. Title of your new book is called the Cosma hypothesis. Tell me about that title, Frank. That book or this book really does a merge from my work on the overview effect, and the experience of astronauts and stays. And it goes back to the question of why we're doing it and the need for a new philosophy of space exploration and Cosma is a personal name that I came up with for the universe. Okay. I'm originally thought did the publisher supposed to say cosmic, and they made a mistake. No, no. This is a, but it also has has a history with the guy hypothesis because the guy offices says the earth is a living organism. Yeah. It's a living organism connected. Life is essential to it. Life is not just a passenger on a big rock. That's going around the Sun Life malls, the earth to its needs. And I drew on that to say, well, what about the universe navy? The universe is similar in that everything is interconnected, and maybe life is extremely important. And so I just built on the guy concept and the whole point of it is really to ask the question. Why is it that with the? Billions of years of evolution on this planet. Why is it that we suddenly have a species that can become a stay faring species can become a multi planet civilization. And when I say, why is it? I mean, why does the environment of the universe by as it then friendly to that happening? I started out wanting to come up with a new philosophy of space exploration shortly. After the challenger accident in nineteen eighty six and there was a TV show this week with David Brinkley. And they had is as Ahmad and Tom Wolfe and George will trying to justify. Human space exploration. If we're going to have people dying to do it. And I mean, literally not wanting to do it. But dying in the process, and George will said to Tom Wolfe. Haven't we had sort of a all reason for space exploration? Like nonstick frying, pans, and Tom will said, you're exactly right. We've never had a philosophy of space exploration in this country. But as I pondered that it struck me that all of our reasons where human centered it was all about exploitation what we were going to get out of it. So in in writing this book, I asked myself from universal point of view. What are we bringing to the party? And ultimately, it seemed that what we have uniquely is. We are. We are a form of life. And we do have life in abundance on the earth. And we are intelligent beings though. We don't always act that way. And actually, we're finding that intelligence permeates the animal world as well. And we have a self awareness. So the hypothesis is that our purpose is to spread life intelligence and south awareness through the cosmos. My friend. Rick Tomlinson, says we are here to go there. And I wish I could come up with a short pithy phrase like that. But I had to write an entire book. We also need to use space Frank to help humanity here. Don't you think? Yeah. And again, this is something we shouldn't lose sight of one of the things I do at Meyer about Jeff these us vision is that he's completely bought into that. And he says this is the best planet planet earth is the best planet and his vision. Has an integral part of it is improving life on earth. That's so important Frank. We're gonna take a quick break. But we're gonna come back and talk more about your latest work, the Cozma hypothesis. I wanna get your take for example on the space force that President Trump wants to implement what's happening there. And we'll be back with more phone calls next hour with Frank white..

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"rick tomlinson" Discussed on WGN Radio

WGN Radio

02:03 min | 3 years ago

"rick tomlinson" Discussed on WGN Radio

"Naturalist should be up because they're taking call it they're destroying riche and building our airports whatever russia's aggression acquiring companies countries i should say so on the moon i was unaware we had any kind of a compact whatsoever but how how steadfast is that let's let's say we planted a flag how many years ago supposedly six background fifty years ago almost and they're all faded to white now 'cause nylon doesn't do well in that kind of ub but yeah there there we didn't claim it however we went there for all mankind famously said the plaques say that you know the plaques on each lunar module everybody has observed the outer space treaty which is what that thing signed in nineteen sixty seven was called pretty steadfastly there have been some attempts by the us to try and modify it a bit to open up mining of asteroids and so forth but at some point you know there's going to be more with let's say a more aggressive discussion about property rights out there maybe not even the moon maybe somebody sees an asteroid that ideally situated for mining and it's got all kinds of stuff on it you want it's got water it's got precious metals that's got rare earth elements has got all this stuff that you wanna use both in space maybe brings back to earth how do you do that and how do you do that with international treaties and can you claim the aspirated or you just claiming the rights to mine it so is rick tomlinson the big figure new space likes to say i don't wanna own the ocean i just want on the fish i pull out of the water so that's kind of america at this point but at some point i think you're right people are going to start looking at the stakeholder rights and so forth and that's going to become a more intense discussion and it'll probably continue to be governed by the outer space treaty but it'll have to be modified as we were head 'cause back at sixty seven we're just interested in getting to the moon before the soviet union right we weren't thinking about so the stuff okay all right joe thanks for the call.

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