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Hour 1: Weekend Observations

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

00:00 sec | 1 year ago

Hour 1: Weekend Observations

"Bedale podcast is brought to you by the new Capital One saver card or four percent cashback on dining entertainment two percent at grocery stores. One percents on all purchases. What's in your wallet? DC's the Dan lebatardshow with Stu got spot Cass. Stugatz. Walked in here. He's playing hurt. He's not feeling well, but he summoned the rain to just spit. I'm so tired of Paul, George and Russell Westbrook. We'll get at this to God's in a second. But first Billy how many home runs does Christian yelich have now thirteen is that more hits than Brinson has is twelve. Oh, boy, how many games was it before the Marlins fired their hitting coach twenty-five did the did the hitting coach make it through twenty five games before being fired. That's hard to do man. It was an odd firing because they fired him after a win. And then the next day they scored nine runs. Everybody says oh away. Look the new hitting coach solved all these problems. And then the day after that scored zero Runcie it was the old hitting coach. I don't know. I mean ran long enough for me to learn. His name Brinson has thirteen home runs to in his career. Brinson, incidentally, is the guy who got traded for yelich. Do you think put this on the pole Guillermo at lebatardshow? Do you think it's possible for a band-aid too emotionally bring you to joyful tears? Do you think it's possible because Dominic apple on Twitter? Right. It's taking he's a black, dude. It's taken me forty five trips around the sun. But for the first time in my life. I know what it feels like to have abandoned in my own skin tone. You can barely even spot it in the first image. I am for real holding back tears. I had never considered that the bandage was made for me and my skin tone. It's not something that I had ever crossed. My mind had crossed your mind that the the band-aid was something that was made for your skin tone. Yeah. Sit around thinking about band-aids in their meaning. I mean, no, it hasn't crossed my mind. I mean, did you really just ask me that about bandaids? I've. It was revelatory because I hadn't considered the idea that anytime a black person walks into a store to get a band day. They wanna put on something that is in their own skin color, perhaps not the skin color, not our skin color. I it's not something I had considered. It's like many times did this on Twitter. The other day. It's not something I had considered. She was telling men when you get on an elevator. When you get off the floor with a woman on an elevator get out, I because I've always thought it to be gentlemen lead to allow the woman to go out. I, but she's saying no men get out first because women don't want you following them down the hallway. It's the same thing that I told you about the difference between men and women walking to their car at night. You haven't spent a lot of time except that one time outside the Miami arena. When there were two crack heads in your car having fear as you walked to your car and you're five foot six, right? No. I haven't I didn't think about. That I always just assumed that you what I do is. I go to hold the door open button on the elevator to let everyone out because I'm trying to be nice guy had never committed Meena says also pressed the button first of your floor press the button I for floor because again, this is a fear that men don't live with they don't live with this daily fears. So that's the reason that I found it interesting, although admittedly, not interesting enough to start with on a Monday. But Jimmy Kimmel's latest project is I love the Jimmy Kimmel has the creative freedom now to make a one night only return of all in the family and the jeffersons with Woody Harrelson starring as Archie bunker that he's going to recreate a time. I wonder how this is going to go over with the new generation. I don't have any idea because Kimmel. Kimmel is now later in life. I've found this with the project that I'm doing on television to where I'm talking to people in Pat Riley and Mike Tyson who at one time during my heyday in sports growing up were the most interesting people, but now it's twenty five years later and a whole generation of people don't care right about those two guys Howard twenty five year olds going to absorb Jimmy Kimmel. Are they watching those in reruns? The jeffersons is still on. I see it every night when I'm flipping through the channels are young people going to be interested in any way. How about the back room there? You guys are all over thirty. You're not you're twenties. But are you guys interested in any way in a remake of all in the family and the jeffersons which signals a whole different time in American television. Now, you still flip through channels? I feel like at this point. There's a guide you kind of know where you're going there. So many channels you're literally going up and down. I'm going through the guide. I'm going through the guy and I'm just scanning down. I see the jeffersons and from the weird time of nine forty five to ten fourteen it's hard to find new shows now because of that because before you flip through the channels, and what you wanted to watch on commercial you go up a channel down channel. Oh, my God look cake wars. This is a cool show. You know what I mean? And now it's like I'm just looking to see what the words are. And I'm not going to just stop randomly on a show that I haven't seen before ROY. Will you watch? Do you have any interest in either one and a remake of either one of these shows? Yeah, I'll watch it. I'll look to see if they updated the story because I doubt that the lineal think that somebody owned a dry cleaning business millionaire now. Who've and on up. Would deluxe apartments this guy. The the warriors did warriors things this week. And we're going to have Ethan Strauss on later in the show to talk to us about it play Thompsons an airhead, right? A lovable airhead. But I'm not again, I'm not saying he's dumb. He's just super chill super chill. And he says he fixed his shooting by jumping in the ocean, which probably isn't accurate. You know? That's the reason put it on the poll did Klay Thompson fixes shooting because he jumped in the ocean, you they jump in the ocean more. I mean, it helps it helps me when I do. Russell Westbrook needs to jump in the ocean as Paul George. What's your what's? Okay. So what's your problem? So the thunder thunder might get the playoff p of for us because God's is doing the annual tradition of ripping Paul George during the playoffs. He says he's tired. We just had the conversation during the break. He's like eight for twenty one get outta here. And I'm like eight for twenty one's not that bad. I mean, James harden just one the other night going over fifteen from the field to start and finishing three for twenty. And they won the game. That's a good point and the Utah Jazz. I mean, they should be ashamed of themselves. I mean if you're not gonna win a game. When James harden has that kind of performance you're never going to win the game against that teed of sorry. Breaking that news right now up Paul, George, Dan. Eight eight hundred twenty wine is is. Okay. It's not okay. For a guy who was considered to be the MVP of the league to two and a half months ago hurts to God's says since his shoulder injury. All his numbers have have just I mean, it's been a precipitous descent. He's hurt. And this is a tough time of year to play when you're hurt. I understand that. But in a game where Oklahoma City has to win the game. And your two superstars Westbrook and Paul George or giving you a combined thirteen of forty two. It's just it's the same old west broken, Paul, George. That's what if feels got you say I understand that. And then you blow past it. He's hurt saints his shoulder. And he's at plenty of postseasons where he's been healthier done enough. But when he was playing like an MVP was this year when he was healthy. And then his shoulder got hurt. And again, he became playoff Pete. Playoff. He has been proven to work in the regular season for those who have struggled with moderate to severe postseason disappointment. It is not recommended as a first option do not take playoff while on Grainger side effects include choking, heaving, not finishing constipation finishing early and all around disappointment playoff. He is not for everyone. Call your doctor. 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The geiko insurance agency could help protect the dark mean filled corner, you call home, call Geico and see how easy it is to switch and save on homeowner's insurance donlevatar Tomas hurdle. Stugatz. Who the hell is? This is down lebatardshow on ESPN radio this avenue that he's not going down by himself. He's taken everybody with him. Get to this story in a second because it was a crazy one from this weekend. But I tell me if I have this wrong because I might have it wrong. I STAN Gundy disagreed with me. And so did a meal Hassen last week? No surprises in the basketball playoffs. Just how we get to somebody and five or six games the better team in five or six games. The only surprises that because everything broke the way that you thought it would where all the magic never mind about them. The only interesting thing from the weekend is the Philadelphia seventy Sixers unrelenting attack on journeymen Jared Dudley. They need a better nemesis. They need like I want and being to do this against the Celtics do it against somebody your own size saying Jared Dudley is a nobody after proving Jared Dudley is a nobody when you're better than Jared Dudley. And everyone knows it. It reminds me of last year, Mike, when we the only thing we conjured from the first round was Bledsoe Bledsoe against Terry. Rozier like scary Terry was a thing because we had nothing else in the first round. So am I wrong when Spurs nuggets is interesting Spurs, the Spurs have a chance there. They do. I mean the series is tied at two games apiece. So obviously, they have they have a chance of winning that. I don't know how many people would be surprised if the Spurs end up winning that series against the nuggets, but it's still out there. I tuned into thunder blazers last just because over the course of the series Lillard and Westbrook had been getting at each other jawing at each other. And you don't really see two stars like that you see it occasionally when Jared Dudley can get under someone. Skin. I wish had escalated to the points. I wished Lillard and Westbrook escalate to the point that deli because I'd get wild. But I didn't specifically to see what Lillard and Westbrook would be saying knew each other. Can you can you play the sound of Joel Embiid after now the general manager of the nets was suspended Stu gods for a game you rarely see this for going to the referee room at the end of of the game. That was one of the few close games. We've had because to me it's not only been uninteresting basketball. It's also not been close at the end basketball. Right. He went and complaining about some calls that weren't called towards the end of the game. And the NBA came out later on and said, he was right actually have been a call NFL. It's brutal because the nets could have had the Sixers wobbly and gotten everybody's attention by making it to to. So I understand why he goes there. And he tries to do all of that. But to your point. Yes. Like in beads, the save this for Kyrie Irving. He needs to save it for Kawai, Leonard. He needs to save it for good players. You didn't. Need to prove that Jared Dudley is nobody we all knew that before the series even start. He he's got it safe for them to like be doesn't everybody? I will tell you the Eastern Conference. Semifinals are going to be amazing. Those four teams now I don't know of any of them are going to win the NBA championship because the warriors are, but that little you know, four team little run there to get to the Eastern Conference finals. I don't think buck Celtics is going to be amazing thing, you know, really really good there. They are overwhelmingly good and the Celtics aren't, but the Celtics are starting to have fun again, Dan. Yeah. It's amazing. How how much fun it is? When all you're doing in the playoffs is preparing for Donovan. The late game heroic. All you got a game plan for you seen. How constipated Indiana is at the end the games, they lead eighty to seventy and then miss all their shots because he gets a little harder. And it's not that hard to game plan for bogdonovich. But here's Joel Embiid giving you the rare sideline interview where he said something when Jared Dudley got in your face in the third quarter. What did you make of the whole incident? He's nobody. So and when you know upon us on again trying to do stuff like that as get us out of the game, especially I'm too valuable for my team. That's why we react not did not do anything and not in thin was a flagrant foul because up near the ball to not situation. I just gotta stick on Bose then be mature let it go because my teammates name me more than the name that it himself. You know, our job much gamma put it on the poll at lebatardshow. Is it funnier? Because of embiid's accent to call Jared Dudley. A nobody because I think his accent starting the interview with first of all first of all he's a nobody by itself is funny. No matter what languages spoken in no matter where the accent and a very mature. But he's a nobody said this way is funnier to me. Fusco ball. Oh body saw. Yes. Is the answer to your really drilled, and the nobody really punctuates it in a way that makes it comedic. He's on no bodies humane. Nobody like seven syllables dragged it out first of all. Did he surprise you with that Stu gods? Because impedes the about the only guy in the league willing to do that. But the the idea that he would start look, it's benign sideline view. All he has to do is get in get out leave it alone. He said all the cliche things after that. But he bookmarked it on both ends with insults for just Jared Dudley. No. I was not surprised at all not surprised that this is what happened that nothing. Even be at the beginning of the interview was first of all he's a nobody. He's on. Nobody saw no show on beat. And it was weird. Take by sue guides say save it for somebody else as we stabbed showing beats going to have plenty further. So everybody for whenever it goes around. And we're going to get on the guy for actually trying to make something in this first round this godforsaken first round interesting. Thank you. Joel embiid. Let's get to this Michael avenue ETI story. If you're not aware of what's going on with him. He is trying to ward off about four hundred years of prison time, he is on Twitter just going after everybody and the LA times just reported this story, which is that I've analogy is accused of embezzling. Nearly two million dollars that an NBA player had paid his ex girlfriend. Now, there are a lot of questions with this story. But the player in questions it's on white side of the Miami Heat. And evidently, he wired two point seven five million dollars to Michael ebony in January of two thousand seventeen and that money was intended to go to his former girlfriend. It's avenue eighty seven fines, but I'm not counting. So avenue was just keep doing what you're doing which is just pronouncing it differently. Right. One of the time. So Alexis Gardner is the girlfriend, she's an actress and barista and she hired avenue. Abernethy just a few weeks before to negotiate a settlement of potential lawsuit against Whiteside. Now it's unclear what she would have alleged. But that leaves open so many questions, the why is this on Whiteside agreeing to a settlement of three million dollars. And the first payment is two point seven five million dollars. And then prosecutors say that I've an Eddie was titled to take just over a million dollars in legal fees and leaving the rest for his ex girlfriend, but they say that instead he hid the payment from her and immediately took two point five million to buy a share of private jet. Hetty play. Now, making things worse for this dude is that there are five clients that prosecutors are saying this guy stole from and one of the others is a mentally ill paraplegic man on disability who won a four million dollar settlement and received just one hundred twenty four thousand from this guy. So what do you do with what I'm about to tell us to God's, which is this guy appears to be awful. And yet I believe him on some of the things that he says not all of. When he's sitting here telling you how dirty the sneaker business is. I believe almost every word he saying. And this sounds like a person that you can't believe anything. He says. Yeah. But when you're when you're this desperate and facing this guy to jail time. I'm with you. You tend to start telling the truth. I mean as as bad as the truth sounds, and it does sound terrible. I happen to believe avenue ADI or avenue. Eddie. All I wanna do is zoom. And boom, boom. Now, you believe everything he saying at this point, right because Desta believe anything that ever. No. I don't believe every. Believed everything avenue Eddie was saying I believe on the sneaker stuff that avenue. Good. I just wanted to clarify. That's good. I want you to believe every word coming out of avenues map, but just on the sneaker stuff. He seems like the most credible person on the planet. He doesn't seem credible under any circumstances. Just seems to be telling the truth about a business that somehow dirtier than he is again, he's facing about four hundred years of present donlevatar dodgers, closer kenley Jansen. I gotta be careful here. What I just did it. We start against still got Sasha's closer. He's the closer comes in ninth. Inning closed the game apps. Name kenley Jansen. He is blamed his regent. DCC's I live at our show with stugatz on ESPN radio. What's the best seen in movie history involving the paddles allow calling the past? We'll get back to that. In a second. We've got stugotz his weekend. Observations coming up, I feel like it has to be from flatliners. It's pretty good flatliners is pretty good. I I remember the scene it God this movie must be thirty years old. But the abyss. Yes. The abyss where they're using. What happened you're you're you proved? Yeah, you approve all, right. Very member that hero. Put it on the poll better paddle scene from the movie the flatliners or the abyss time now for stugatz. His weekend. Observations. It is time for a stugatz to share his game notes. No, one in the media will tell you what happened, but at the my choice to weekend observations brought to you by vivid seats need seats to a game down, though, the vivid seats app and enter promo code chips at checkout to get ten percent off your first order don't buy just any seat, get a vivid seat. It's finally here. The thing you despise so much that covering it force ju to quit the thing you love most writing it your own personal hell Dan draft week is back. The Sixers are better without Joel Embiid. Sixers one scratch that Joel Embiid played one of the best playoff games. I've never seen and to har-. I've been there you to that game. He was great. Which I saw. Andrew Harr Stanton Hicks, ellsbury jug all injured, Dan, you know, what the Yankees are mash unit. Hey, look at you on a Monday morning that that right? They are mash unit Jacoby ellsbury lives on the injured list. If you need to mail something to Jacoby ellsbury just mail it to the injured list, if you're looking for Patrick Beverley soul. It was stolen by Kevin Durant. Just a reminder. We are three weeks into the baseball season. And the winner of the two thousand fifteen AL Cy Young award. Who was only thirty one still has it been signed tigger from a guy who knows Jimmy Butler likes to make things all about Jimmy Butler. If I'm the Brooklyn nets, you know, what I think Jared Jared Dudley four nothing want to try that again, there's a good line. And I bought it. If on the Brooklyn nets, you know, what I thanked Jared Dudley for nothing. Hey game of thrones. Do something ready and hey game of thrones fans, relaxed about last night's episode all that happened was people drinking around a fire, and then I'll comfortable sexy, and you're talking about how great that episode was just because the Chris. Boven looking dude rack the joke, and I've got news her brand of tar that wasn't a real ceremony. You are not a night in my personal record book. Also, how is it possible that John snow globe track? All over the game of thrones universe in what feels like natter of date yet. It took the white walkers seven seasons to get to the wall. Sam well, totally Lou guy report Benjamin Watson is having second thoughts. About retiring? The news here is that Benjamin Watson is still playing to Rico in a juju. Smith Schuster on behalf of Jews everywhere. I hope you had a happy Passover Ed juju much like our former non-jewish friend Antonio Brown. May you one day find the offi Combet? Sixers nets ship. He Joel Embiid before you start calling other people a nobody do me a favor win something seriously beat enough already stopped talking also play the best game. I've never seen after sweeping the Pacers. I feel no better or worse about the Celtics winning the east. I didn't watch a single second of Celtics Pacers that series net. Nothing achieved. Nothing an accomplished nothing. Weird playoff series. Right. Pat Riley 'paparazzi photos in Los Angeles. Collision course, Dave Gettleman saying he likes his resume so far after eight and twenty four start with the giants day. You are Mike guy the guy and keep up the great work. Headline will the giants pass on a quarterback at six? Ed, take what at seventeen traffic. I love you. Someone should throw a basketball at damore in her not being able to hit threes. It today's NBA. Hey, syndergaard. We're waiting or congratulations to all. The guys drafted by the patriots this week for not only making it to the NFL. But for also winning the Super Bowl and a big congratulations to Joey Gallo who and his three hundred sixty four th career game finally hit a sac fly bay weekend. Blazers won a road game. Good was concerned the blazers thunder series was never gonna start Damian. Lillard assassin a tradition. Unlike any other Paul George not showing up to the playoffs layoff p at auction colts owner, Jim IRS. Had the winning bid for the piano used by John Lennon to compose songs for sergeant Pepper's. No other details. Other than Irsays face was really read top five prettiest things in sports play Thompson in zone. Imagine. If Kevin Durant was doing this for team that wasn't already the best team of all time before he got there. Hey D when I watched the game. I don't even see by the way, I love Kevin please continue Wendy do badly so bit. I'm sorry. Pretty. Kanye was crocodile tears reports. Cavs Rick potato talk about coaching job, all talks, of course, have taken place at night. Let's see how good a coach Patino is. What is best player is CD assessment? I'm hearing the Cavs are also looking into an experienced assistant head coach capable of being a head coach her day games city of Cleveland shortage of garlic. Collision course, Rick Pitino Dan. Gilbert, a match made in hell hell that reminds me. Our browse, Dan, those are the weekend observations. Break out the red panties. Baby. We need another one. It wasn't enough donlevatar is shop no longer a high school class of any sort. I think so I think that's only in the movies. I I don't know anyone who ever went to high school where they had like woodwork as a class my dad. Did you made a lamp actually? Stugatz. I'm trying to think of more useless contribution to the show. Then my father made a lamp in woodwork. I wouldn't lamps. Evidently, Roy's evidently, ROY grew up with the hardscrabble times of wooden lamps made by your father nights late wired. It and everything. Yeah. Yeah. It worked. Yeah. Now, the public school systems really failing us, I couldn't make a lamp if I had to put it on the poll Jamaica lamp, these easy donlevatar show with this two guys on ESPN radio. Mike Ryan loved Damian Lillard before many of you did because he has cutthroat he is cold blooded. We've enjoyed having Damian Lillard on the show and one of the things that we've marveled at with him is about just how cheap is this is an NBA superstar. You would agree right on percent. Yeah. Be. But so the reason I say superstar is because I guess guys needs to win a little more to become a superstar. But he is as good as. You know, any of the top fifteen guys playing in the sport. Agreed. And he is if he's your best player, and you get a I think you might actually be able to do some winning if he's your best player and the players behind him. Are you know, a two and a three that are almost like him almost like him. Yes. Otherwise, you need a really dominant number. But he is he has gotten better. Clearly and for today's age, he's kind of the perfect basketball player. There are three seed with CJ McCollum as a second best player. And so here is a Damian Lillard talking about just how tsipras apart my car valet walking into the restaurant apart. I moved valet parking. Oh, wait a minute Lillard Gramien, wait a minute. So you had valet your car, and you saw space opened up. And so you skipper. Well, how much was valet? I love that. I love that. As an answer. I want to ask you guys which of these is better though. Because do you remember the story that Torrey Smith told us about burying his kid a hundred to nothing in you know, like Madden. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. The Super Bowl, I which story do you think has a better punchline, Damian Lillard saying there that his valet was a four dollars or the way, Tori, whole Torrey? Smith told the story of look I grew up amid toxic masculinity. I grew up in an environment with when people only said, I love you after something bad had happened. I don't know anything about warmth. I'm trying to teach my kid how sandpaper life can be sometimes. And he needs to lose a hundred to nothing and feel and then. And then I asked him how old is your son? And his answer was an embarrassed. He's four. To put on the poll gear, please at lebatardshow, which which is the funnier punchline, Damian Lillard four dollars or Tori. Smith's for years old? You said Klay Thompson in his own is a top-five prettiest thing in the sport. And you do this. You put forty things in your top five. What else is going in there? And do you guys agree that Klay Thompson feeling it is among the prettiest things in sports because I I don't think feeling it on his own team. Like, I think Durant and curry both of those guys feeling it feels even larger than Klay Thompson feel as I said, and we can observations when I watched those games. I don't even see Kevin Durant. So I'm with you on Steph curry, he is certainly in my top five they have two guys who are in my top five. If either of those guys are hot to the prettiest things, but Lillard to Lillard Lillard getting hot is fun to watch. It is it's entertaining, man. Just know he's going to pull up from court. Like, they're not gonna they're not gonna let it go. Like, they're gonna wait till we miss they're gonna keep letting him shoot. And everyone's going to know he's still shooting everyone on both teams and still he's going to keep shooting. Klay Thompson fixed all of that with with jumping in the ocean. That's all it needed.

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Hour 1: The Cherry-Picking Grief Eater

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

33:55 min | 6 months ago

Hour 1: The Cherry-Picking Grief Eater

"Sugata here if you're like me you love a good stat but there's one stat you probably don't know your vehicle's battery charge that's why advance auto parts has free vehicle battery testing and installation with no appointment. Needed BATTERY SORTED. Just seventy ninety nine. They also have curbside pickup on any order. Enter the Code Dan. Twenty when you buy online to save twenty percent on your order adventure auto at advance auto parts and participating carquest locations see store for details To Show podcast is presented by capital one. This is banking reimagined. This is Dan Lebatardshow with the stugatz. Podcast happy Greg Cody Tuesday. He is in rare diva form even by his standards. We finally stood after all these years. Have something news breaking that is in the Codey wheelhouse. And he gave all his fresh and original thoughts to will cain yesterday on the radio Regarding the death of Don Shula but this is why he's in rare form Stugatz because he texted his son this this morning. I will warn you if I get cut off on a hard network out in the middle of a serious discussion about Shula. I'm going to leave the zoom meeting without a word now. That is a blanket threat but in speaking to just the general entitlement we have around here and just and I've had this conversation with cody so much about the entitlement around here. And he's like you're right. Everyone is entitled not me though not me. The response from me was. Hey there's a clock cody you can just check it. You can just you don't ever have to get cut off. You can simply check the clock because it's the same at the end of every hour. But then he doubles down quote. This might be overly dramatic but bear in mind in Zoom Room era. My appearances on the show have become much less fun for me. I get to contribute a lot less than sometimes. It seems like I'm only on there for a back in my day and to miss a couple of hard network out. That's not fun for me. Now there are two things that are funny here one. He often doesn't have his back in my day to to is very important during a pandemic that the show be just as fun to Greg Cody because that brings so much on the days weddings feeling maximum entitled now. He's pissed off right now. He's had died. Greg the floor is yours. You haven't been getting enough run on Tuesdays around here so the floor is yours. Say whatever you want for as long as you want about Don Shula. Your son is cringing because he feels like he betrayed you by Well by telling me all of your secrets you did. Well HE DID. Betray me me. Who's in charge of the my last will and testament which has a right now is leaving him of big money. But that's under review. I send Christopher Tivat emails private texts and they end up on the air. It's just I think that's illegal. I think he's breaking the law breaking threatened by betraying might competence Christopher. Save yourself because I'm upset that I can't send you a private tax ridiculous junior sending. I'm assuming you're sending a message to get the message to the team. So why wouldn't you want that heard? I'm just venting to you. I'm not sending attending you to pass that along to anybody greg blown over the Air Greg if your four warning him he's got no power around here like why are you wanting him. You should forewarn me. Why are you forewarning him? That if you get caught off during a serious shula you're going to walk off without a word you realize that you disappear for segments at a time host houses that whose houses that has two teenage daughters who are currently fighting because one of them is struggling to get online for. So they're fighting STUGOTZ. Can you get control of your home please? Because you don't have to teenage daughters sitting in your house and I don't have the money to go buy by neighbors house. Okay so please. Just with that. That one thing lease it two teenage daughters and a dog or in your house. It's a big house. I don't think it's a big house built by this radio show. I don't think it's that big and has to ask your family and your dog to behave themselves while daddy's working put it on the pole. Guillermo at Lebatardshow is too big and asked as daddy to take control of his house when the house was built by radio and his dog and his kids won't shut up. That's that's too big and ask no. It's not a big ask at all. You're suggesting when you say that I'm not texting them telling them to shut the hell up which I am. I mean that's what you're suggesting but right before we started. I heard you telling the dog. Shut the hell up and I heard the dog telling you to shut the hell up. It was gonNA keep doing whatever I wanted to do. Listen the dog. I can't control it as really understand what I'm saying. The kids do and if you notice they immediately shut up when I asked them to shut up so I am not surprised that there's a lack of discipline in that. How should I be surprised that there's a lack of discipline and that house a dog? You do realize that dog is generally under your control like your dog. You don't can't eat unless you feed it like that. You have all of the power in your hands away yes. The dog is undermined. Well I don't know if the dog is completely under my control. I don't feel like the dog is. I feel like dogs are going to do what dogs are. GonNa do what I tried to tell you is I cannot control led to teenage sixteen year. Old Girls decide to go at each other's neck. I never trade my dog. My dog does whatever my dog wants to do. This is my dogs domain. So let's leave him out of the daughters though you're right about should about it. Well stop giving them money. See if it quiets down and just stop. Stop paying for things and see if they talking during work speaking of animals that are out of control. I saw this videos to God that I was amazed by and I had. No idea is something that could actually happen in Indonesia. Okay I'd seen this video a couple of days ago because it went viral a couple of days ago. And it's horrifying STU gods but the only part of the video that I had seen horrifying enough by itself is a monkey comes and grabs from a group of kids. The smallest one and the weakest one in the bunch grabs the child in diapers and a yellow shirt and starts dragging the child aggressively loses. Its grip grabs. The child by the arm loses its grip grabs the child by its hair and drags it by. Its face as far as it can. That by itself is a shocking enough video the part that I saw this morning on. Tmz is that the monkey road up on a motorcycle. What is happening for taking as much as I thought the animals would take over. I didn't think they'd form a biker. Gang a Harley did you think was possible. I mean this monkey drag this by the face and Kudos to the Indonesian kid. 'cause they got right back up not crying all just ran back to where it was in its diaper but did you think that monkeys did that. Because then monkey was absolutely headed to eat a toddler like that monkey monkey was not just messing around that monkey wrote in with a purpose on a motorcycle and drag literally dragged a toddler looking to eat it. Did I think monkeys did that? I think when animals are hungry animals gotta do whatever they gotTa do to find some food. You know I mean I know you. I mean the birds flying lower lower and I mean great. You thought that that is a reasonable. Evolution is a motorcycle riding monkey attacking toddlers. That's something you thought you'd see in two thousand twenty. No Well No. I never thought I'd see a monkey riding motorcycles. Cody why did you give your exclusive thoughts on Don Shula to will cain before making your appearance on this show? Where for the first time in history we would have had a seasoned Miami Herald writer who literally wrote the book on the Miami Dolphins and their perfect season instead gave all of your exclusive thoughts to will cain so all. We're getting is damp leftovers. Yeah no I'd say the best for you but we'll get ticket left from me at the will call window so I had to respond to. Who called me first? Let's go to commercials him. First exclusive thoughts on Don Shula. He wanted to make a will call window joke so he could go back and texting his son threatening him with four warning also that he's not being treated right when we go to him on the microphone wheelhouse he makes a will call joke back with Greg Cody. He's irrelevant thoughts brought to you by capital on. You know how it feels when you've saved enough for that long awaited home addition now. 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Never mind the difficulties with name and language and information but what are you supposed to do with not knowing anything about Korean baseball before you start? So Billy has recommendation. I just heard Chris saying alarmingly that he has friends betting on this stuff and he was thinking about getting in but he said it out for the moment. He sat out betting on Korean baseball admirable. Show of restraint. And Billy has some suggestions as to what it is that we could do with the broadcast here. What is it that you'd like? Espn to do with the Korean baseball. Broadcast Billy I don't much you guys have been watching. I have not been watching much but I watched some highlights today and one of the highlights was a. It was a home run. Because there's no fans nobody. The ball was fair foul. 'cause went right down the right field line. Nobody knew where it landed. And then the announces the Alcohol he just missed that he's got a trotting around era. No I guess was a home run. You were confused. There's no fan letting us know what happened. With all the right fielded react. I was thinking. I think it's time we bring back. That hockey puck highlight thing from the nineties. That used to show us where the was all the time. But with Baseball's in these empty stadiums so we always know where the ball is and depending on how hard you hit is Dan. I don't watch baseball. But now they can tell you how fast the ball's coming off the bat launch angle. Liz buildings that and I don't know but I figure if they're telling US how fast it's coming off the bat maybe different colors for how hard it is there like a lightning. Maybe even sound effects. Dan put it on the pole. Guillermo at Lebatardshow is baseball now. Launch Angle this Bill James that or no. There's a great piece on. Espn DOT COM informs. You Chris if you WANNA get informed on the teams the players the power rankings the history of this league. I will start gambling on this at five. Pm Eastern today believe that the second game of the year very exciting here mo. Put IT on the poll. Do you feel bad for the ESPN announcers. Now scurrying to learn about Korean baseball. So here's the wheelhouse. Greg cody a you know just about sixteen hours later than we would have liked the thoughts but you could have gotten him on. We'll show if you wanted them from Greg Cody but you are a longtime old timing columnist for the Miami Herald. You came up in the time where the newspaper mattered. And Don Shula was king and something that happened on the radio show. Yesterday that I thought was interesting. Is that the young people. Were sort of like well. He falls out of our demo. Don Shula icon legend legacy maker falls out of the Demo. That happens sometimes. With the hang strands of the world or the coaches from a bygone time. So explain to me Greg as someone who grew up in south Florida as someone who grew up professionally in south Florida covering Don Shula's dolphins at a time. Only Don Shula's dolphins explained to us what he meant to South Florida. Through your prism as a guy who has been writing columns for the Miami Herald for thirty years and working for the Miami Herald for Damn near forty for me. He was Family in in a way and and I think to a lot of older fans he was just that you know the time line was such when when Shula was hired I was a pimple fifteen year. Old Kid When Shula retired I was a married father of two. I mean so much of my time line so much constancy in my life In not just sports just so much constantly was Chula on the sideline on a Sunday. And I think It you know. I'm not liking to the loss of a parent. Anybody who's lost an elderly parent. Even if they lived to be ninety in everybody around you saying Oh they let a great long life in hurts. Okay no matter when it happens you know. Dolphin fans In in a lot of us have had years to to prepare for the day that happened yesterday and still it hits and it hurts and you know I'm I'm still processing it because e- e- meant a lot to my life in a way that I'm not sure I realized until Yesterday just after ten. Am when when I first got the news? Was he mean to you much? What do you remember about him? Intimidating you yeah. He could be very gruff. He was an interesting personality because he could be kind and tender and he could be very crofts. End and domineering. He wanted to control. Every situation he was in I got to know him very well particularly in the early to mid nineties when I covered the dolphins pretty much on a full-time basis and that's what I saw. Shula every day and that was sort of late in his career When he was sort of hanging onto his reputation in a way and those were interesting times in Yeah he he had his moments with me where I would write something that he didn't like Like you say those were the Heydays of newspaper and You were covering the Dolphins for the Miami Herald you were big deal to Don Shula and intensely read whatever you wrote and cared about it But yeah he was He he could be very gruff in domineering. But then you'd see him at the end of the practice in his grandkids would come by and he would listen by the arms and refer to it as hang time and you would see that great v-shape grin of his and he was interesting in just He sort of my life joked up. Here we go. I don't think that's choked up. I just think that's general lack of health. We will get back to his gambling thoughts on Don Shula and a v-shaped grin of some sort. I don't think human beings have those. But that's Greg Cody trying to wax poetic during his grief. About Don Shula. What he didn't say there is that Shula once got mad at him. Because Greg Cody was referring to him in print as the Cobbler Don Shula pulled him aside and said why are you calling me the cobbler and print and he's like because your nickname shoes cobblers make shoes and Dontrelle just walked off without a word thinking that Greg. Cody is the oddest bird to have ever covered him across many decades in south Florida the cobbler regardless he did a better job. Eulogizing Don Schule than a Sunday yesterday. That barely barely to God's here support for the Dan lebatardshow Woodstock Goth. Podcast comes for friends at rocket mortgage by quicken loans home. Today is so much more than it was yesterday at rocket mortgage home is still all about you. During these challenging times the top priority at rocket mortgage is the health and safety of the communities. They serve if you need mortgage assistance. 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I think everyone on the show kind of agrees Dan that well you do. You Eat Grief. You Love Grief You bathe in grief and other people's grief and and so we were thinking that you know you're kind of the cherry picker of columnists for the Miami Herald. I mean you only thunder in for the big stories. Greg Cody you know. You have had amazing success on radio. Tv Ed Greg. Cody is still churning. Away at the Herald sitting behind a typewriter trying to crank out articles and yesterday he was handed a gift. I mean he was handed Don Shula who lived a very full life and he was handed a gift of the Shula column and you thundered in and you took that gift and you you know self. That's guardian dominates fair enough but someone died. Let's not call that a gift and not even the grief eater would want that as a gift I would send them back for refunds if you sent me that as a gift. Let's not call. Don Shula's death against that. Greg Cody has been handed. I prefaced it by saying he lived a very full life. I understand that that was the qualify. Oh in that case okay. Say vastly less disrespectful to refer to a death as a gift because it was a full life. This was a celebration of a full life. Not Not as much a tragedy as a celebration of a man who lived a very full life. It is considered one of the two or three greatest coach in NFL history. Many people's Mount Rushmore of of the NFL. My but he's many people's larger point here. We digress was a column for Greg Cody to right and you thunder rid all pro. We're all about all right so first of all let's get more doesn't have Don Shula on it in a in just a second but can you help me with something here in terms of exoneration and cody. I'd like to hear from you on this because well before I before I summon a request for forgiveness and exoneration and give you guys an explanation cody. What are your thoughts on what it is? That's God's just had to say which is me coming in and Cherry picking this gift of death that he alleges that we were given yesterday. Well I think there I think there is some truth to the idea that You only right. I guess three or four columns a year and that they tend to be on either momentous occasions generally related to Tearful farewells in some manner. Such choose dwayne Wade leaving. Don Shula passing away. But it's understood. I expected you to write yesterday. I don't know whether the Herald called you were whether you volunteered the column. But it was totally expected. While does it matter because they did call me. But I don't know whether that hurts you more or less to know that. The bosses herald texted me asking me if I wanted to write and so I decided to write because there aren't very many situations like this in south Florida where you are telling the story of a legends legacy and as it relates to south Florida's to God's like the to me the impactful parts of his legacy there are all sorts of people's ESPN and the NFL network talking about his coaching and football and victories but to me that's secondary in terms of the personal intimate aspect of his legacy. Which is that all over South Florida? He birthed sports fans the winning the field. Good the Miami Dolphins. The Orange Bowl was surrounded by Cuban exile community. That didn't know anything about American full and going and that area was so deeply Hispanic and that orange bowl was filled with so many brown people who gathered around the winning and then soon after what would happen as he's representing Miami to the nation as a pillar of integrity. What would happen is that Miami would become a legitimate sports town. That doesn't happen without him. And so his legacy a legends legacy is that he birth the entire sports thing that people care about across generations in south Florida that we were highlife. Ron Johnson horse racing. We were sleepy pre scarface south Florida sunshine and beaches. But you come here to rest and relax. You don't come here for sport action and that all started with him going undefeated. Ige's just on me. What the Herald called you. I love some of the comments. Those two gods on the article because honest to God. You can't even eulogized somebody in the present climate without people looking for reasons to fight you so I mentioned that he had a perfect season. What are the comments is? Pat's went sixteen to know. Okay thanks for not that. I mentioned that. He's on the Mount Rushmore of south Florida sports with Riley and Wade and Dan Marino and somebody writes in what about Jimmy Johnson Jimmy and then my personal favorite. The seventy two dolphins didn't get to go to the White House. So there's a picture in the herald of them with President Obama and then this comment leave it to the Pinkos at the failing herald place politics aside a great leader. Unbelievable AND TRADE GROWS. Ferguson is committed to making business with us. The easiest part of Your Day Ferguson Dot Com designed to help run your business from the office to the job site by making your day to day activities. Easier with twenty four seven account access unmatched online inventory and on the go account management and with our pro plus customer loyalty program. You can earn points with every online purchase redeemable for merchandise event tickets trips and more sign up today at Ferguson Dot Com. 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He's saying that his hundred thirty seven billion dollars quote isn't all that huge when you think about worst case scenarios which of course makes me feel terribly bad for Warren Buffett but not as bad as I feel for the Saudis who can't get anyone driving and therefore they're all oil prices going Down and as you know I side with the most unpopular of people during these difficult times like Warren Buffett and the Saudis are all the difficulties that they're enduring when Warren Buffett is saying one hundred thirty seven billion dollars. Isn't all that huge? When you think about worse case and then on a smaller level have you seen what happened with Vice? President at Amazon Amazon is of the few companies that has just rolling in it right now. They you know. Bezzone is making twenty four billion dollars in a couple of weeks. He's hiring one hundred thousand employees one week. Seventy five thousand another and a vice president for Amazon said he cost himself a million dollars and the best job that he's ever had because he complained about the firing of whistle blowers in the warehouses because so many people are working because demand is so large that some of the workers are under it in a way that is leaving them. You know sick and noisily complaining about conditions and this is not something that anyone obviously can prepare for. So they're hiring more employees and sick leave is something that's becoming a problem. And you don't firing of whistle blowers is a dangerous thing and so Amazon is rolling in all of this money but they've got sick. Leave questions and a vice president just told you to gods at Amazon put his principles above everything else. That is not easy to do to take that stand. We all agree that that's the right stance to take and there are a whole lot of Amazon vice presidents not taken it. There are a whole lot of people that is a really difficult stance to say. I'm going to give up the best job I've ever had. I'm going to give up a million dollars because it's simply the right thing to do that. That's a tricky thing to do. You like to think that you would do the right thing. And that's bobby most people I I'm guessing would not but I just I wanNA take a second here and rearrange readjust who you're feeling badly for a guy because it's Micky arison it's a VP. Who was a whistle Blower Amazon? It's the Saudis. It's Warren Buffett. I mean do you WanNa feel bad for the owner of a mom and pop shop? You WanNa feel bad for the employee's Amazon who are being overworked. Feel bad for a guy who owns a local pizza parlor. You WanNa feel bad for teachers. I mean we need to readjust who you're feeling badly for your feeling bad for people who are going to be just fine regardless of what happens here with this pandemic okay. Warm bubbly like ninety years old. It burn through one hundred thirty six billion dollars. I'll be fine guy named put it on the poll. Guillermo God's not understand sarcasm at Lebatardshow yes or no you just got on your easy stance horse not realizing that. I was totally joking. There is no circumstance under which you could feel sorry for. Saudis who bone saw journalists like there was clearly a joke erode into your easiest stance possible. Look Billy's not sure it's A. It's not sure it's a Joke Greg. Cote he's not sure it's broke you guys think that I'm seriously feeling bad for the Saudis because gas prices are down while the the Saudis took such a huge investment in Carnival cruise. Lines Micky Arison. They smoke into the bachelor and bought a bunch of stock smoking with live nation to which To borrow a quote from someone should look into all of this bill. You you raised your finger because you everyone. Everyone is siding with the easy stance of DOTS. Here I was thinking of starting the show on Monday that way I feel bad for the Saudis just just to agitate because people aren't driving now and gas prices are going down what the joke. And what's Real Mickey? A joke too because we did like a week on how bad. We've trump for Mickey but I don't know if that was real and what's the lines are kind of blurred right now. I don't know what's real and what's not the entire history of the show. Billy what we all do your entire characters and instigator behind veneer. Who tries to bother everyone? What's real? Let's not real the only thing that you know always real around. Here is the general incompetence of Greg. Cody it is the truest thing we do. It is the most consistent thing we do. So a greg you also were wondering whether or not I was being sarcastic or serious on this. Your sarcasm quote unquote was very thinly veiled. Maybe it should have been a little more listener not going to go ahead and not going to cater to come people not GonNa do it. We do enough of that around here without my help. We do plenty of that. We do it every Tuesday every Tuesdays clowns bounce off of me. Go ahead to just limit it to Tuesdays. I mean I won't be plenty around here where we cater to the people in every once in a while. I get a little bit tired of it. But we haven't eulogized cody. We haven't eulogized the Mount Rushmore piece. Don Shula of south Florida sports. Who's on that list for you? It's a it's a simple mount rushmore. School Greg Cody on ESPN radio. It could be a routine drive to pick up the kids after school or an epic road trip across the country. No matter where your travels take you. We know those miles cows we're marathon we have over five thousand. 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Cleveland's Baker/LeBron, Magic on Lonzo, Pat's Gordon

Speak For Yourself with Cowherd & Whitlock

1:04:38 hr | 2 years ago

Cleveland's Baker/LeBron, Magic on Lonzo, Pat's Gordon

"Yourself. I'm Jason Whitlock that is Marcellus Wiley that do serve coming up, Eric Dickerson. We'll be here to address his hall of fame protests and we'll tell you if Lonzo ball's about the have a breakout year, but we start every show with a width dog. So what you got today, I got a big heaping health of Baker Mayfield ee the pocket-sized quarterback can door LeBron James. Well, you heard me well, Colin cowherd nemesis can surpass, Colin coward basketball man crush the brazen one can take down the chosen one. That's the power of football. In the most important rookie debut since King. James and the Cavaliers took the court and Sacramento fifteen years ago. Baker Mayfield rob the sports world. One Thursday night football forced into the game because of a Toronto Taylor concussion may feel drag the Cleveland Browns out of a fourteen old deficit. And led the franchise to its first victory in six hundred and thirty five days. Are you kidding me? The whole thing was epic. That is not an exaggeration. Yes. The jets are trash Charlotte's try, but so were the Browns before the brazen one took the field Browns head coach. Hugh Jackson was in the process of firing himself until Toronto. Hayler did all of Cleveland favor and tapped out of the game and a little more than a half of play Mayfield completed, seventeen or twenty. Three passes for two hundred one yards caught a two point conversion and led the Browns to twenty one points when it was over. I had the exact same feeling I had after watching ESPN broadcast LeBron twenty five point nine assists six rebounds four still debut. Really. Thing is possible. Baker Mayfield justified the pick the high and the bravado. Then he sat down with the NFL network crew and sounded like a kid who realizes he's at the start of a grueling marathon. We talk about it. We divide the season into four quarters. And so right now we just played game three of the first quarter. We can come out next week into Oakland and we can come out to one to one and win quarter. Yeah. And if you focus on winning those first four games and take that at a time, you can come out and you're gonna have a home playoff game. Yeah. The brazen one can be bigger than the chosen one Mayfield as playing the right sport. These social Justice warriors can continue their football jihad their war against toxic masculinity, their battle to make basketball soccer America's game. It ain't happening. The conflict in football is the most compelling fun, important, high stakes, battle and television. Here's the difference between football and basketball. You can lose the genetic. Battle in football and still conquer all your competitors. Baker Mayfield wasn't chosen at birth. He walked on a two different major universities and wound up winning the Heisman, Trophy people underestimate him as a pro prospect because of his size and his brazen attitude. Here's a giant mass of hardcore sports fans who can relate to Baker Mayfield junior high and high school football stars who weren't tall enough for fast enough to play in college Baker Mayfield as their guide. Now, he's the underdog in an American culture that can't resist the underdog and just as important, he's playing the sport. America can't resist the sport that makes room for the little guy, fat guy, the tall guy, the slow guy, the fast guy, the smart guy and dummies like me, or you go, the brazen one can dwarf the chosen one. That's how I see it as a journalist Marcel. It's how you see it as an athlete. Oh, as nasty is laugh. Publ that you even think that Baker Mayfield could compare to a LeBron James, especially in the CD of Cleveland where LeBron James is basically from Akron, Ohio outside the city of Cleveland. LeBron James has a head start on Baker Mayfield. Twenty-three years young right now, Baker Mayfield LeBron James said, not only in my from this area, but I was a star at the age of sixteen. So when Baker Mayfield looks around at twenty three and says, oh, this feels good giving Cleveland is first win and a couple of years lebrons like up in on a cover, a sports illustrative since my junior year in high school, and you just got on the cover of that a couple of months ago, like LeBron's lead before Baker Mayfield, even steps on the field in Cleveland is insurmountable. You can't catch up now, let's not even talk about just popularity because we're knowing there are two different phases of their careers. Obviously you're talking about the sport and how football is going to give him the great equalizer. Radio Blair, mom, prayer, look, I football has a bigger economy. It's a bigger sport, but it doesn't produce bigger stars. I mean, just think about it. I give you one metric. This is look at social media and followers. The fantasy world. You've okay, you got into the fan. Okay. I just thought that people at home who say, I like you actually follow you my bad. I think that's an actual as I can start naming names. Everybody thinks they're gonna watch them on TV because they follow him on Twitter don't have. How about this in the top five? You can't dispute this five social media accounts in NFL at of all up the top five, the fantasy world, and I finished the halio wanna hear go, yeah, you add them up. They're not even half of LeBron James's followers. Okay, so so we notice for move. We I have that unfortunate choice placed on us that I'm no longer in the race to be a basketball player. I must be a football player. I'm sick. They're in high school saying this six foot eight guys get way more loved than me. And I think I'm a better prospect must board than years. It's always been that way Jason that basketball players because of their platform because they actually market the stars. They're sitting there own a court in a tank top, no helmet they are bigger stars. Baker Mayfield doesn't stand a chance and catch LeBron James. He's playing the game that matters football, ten million people watch Baker Mayfield last night at the height of that is the highest rated game on the NFL network in three or four years when everybody saying the raise it. But going back with that's football, two million people, two and a half million people watched LeBron's debut in two thousand three fifteen years ago before all the co-ord- cutting and all that other stuff. And trust me LeBron is magical. I get it. He is magical in the sport, a basketball is magical, but it's not football. The most important position in all of sports is quarterback exact all. Of sports. Thank the Duke plays quarterback. He plays in the league that matters vis again. It used to be the heavyweight champion used to be the king of all sports. It used to be the shortstop in baseball or whoever the greatest baseball player was the king of all sports. The king of all sports is the quarterback over the last twenty thirty years Baker mayfield's playing that position people that was the Browns versus the jets and America stopped on a dime to go holy cow, gotta see this little due to won the Heisman Trophy that no one even thinks that game was very boy. Baker Mayfield at the gate and feel it was electric and was in a vent, it wasn't event and I'll give you all of that. And I will give you even more as he's playing the most important position in all sports agreed and he's not even the king of that position. That's Tom Brady and even Tom Brady and goat status is not as popular, not a bigger star than the bronze, James. So already that's a mute. Argument when you're saying you're not even the best of your position or the best in that sport, and even the best in sport can't compare to about being compelling and having a story. Okay. This. And so because look the whole time Peyton Manning was in the league and was at the height of his power. He dwarf Tom Brady, even though Brady was having more team success. And I've reference Peyton Manning for a reason because I've seen this Marcellus. I've seen this. I'm from Indiana. Okay, the entire time I'm growing up and if you go study the history of Indiana, our culture as it relates to sports in Indiana was dominated by basketball high school, basketball, and Bobby Knight, and Peyton Manning came in and road this football thing. And if you go look at Indiana now, he completely changed the culture. It is a football state. Bobby Knight went away Indiana basketball, went away. High school football there is now it's incredible turning out players, and that's all Peyton Manning playing that position. Having Payton. Manning, you thought you were watching some history when you wash the play, is he going to be the all time greatest player? The Brady ended up beating him out. Yeah, but but the magic of that and the magic of this little kid and who knows maybe he won't continue it. Who knows? You get hurt, anything can happen, but this little do this. Walked on twice at major universities won the Heisman Trophy. No one thought he could a lot of people thought he didn't have the right size, the right fit, the right attitude for pro football. He came out and started a story in a city that hadn't one games in two years that if that story continues trust me both there your here, it'll be on issue and he'll be on billboards. The same way LeBron is except he'll be bigger because he's riding at football. Hor look, grandpa, look. This campfire stories. This. Job is not the way to Indiana treated Peyton Manning at the end. How much impact did he have to the point a word and had a statue out. We're not gonna keep you. Okay, that sounds amazing. Here's the thing. Chicago used to be a football town. Michael Jordan showed up what had happened was okay, that's a great point because LeBron Michael Jordan, that's the other thing, but but continue and listen to this. You wanna talk about story and impact in the community. Do you think everyone in Cleveland forgot what happened in Columbus, Ohio. When these same Baker Mayfield who walked on the two major universities, Heisman Trophy winner decided to put an Oklahoma flag right in the middle Buckeye stadium and say, you know what disrespect this whole terrain. So those kind of things you're trying to give me story. I could push back with story that says, Baker Mayfield has already started behind it, and then people at Ohio State. If he walked out the Ohio State, they've let him dot the, I today what he did last night and they would celebrate him and love him because what he did last night they were getting killed. Their clocks cleaned everybody in Cleveland was ready to fire. Hugh Jackson, this little do trots out onto the field and performs a magic trick. And I'm just telling you. It's football. It's the quarterback, look at the numbers of people that watched that game. Last night. Baker Mayfield is potential magic. And if it continues, he will be bigger and more important, particularly in Cleveland, but just in sports in general than even LeBron James, they would. They will book Baker Mayfield right now because the bronze unavailable because. Ronda. The wanna come go. Get Baker Mayfield plan. B. is Baker. Mayfield came believe, yes, you can't believe you play football your whole life and you don't understand this word. You don't even understand the horseshoe was right. Watch football teams. They don't watch the individual stars because they don't magnify us to the level of basketball player every football player on the defensive line. He's not a, he's a quarterback man just said Tom Brady the goat, Tom Brady's looking like who's better than me. And then he goes to this just have this mythological hearty hypothetically, they're all saying who gets the best seat in the house. Michael Jordan walks and guess who gets the best thing house Michael Jordan. Then they say, oh, goes Tom Brady did goes Kobe to goes abroad. Do you think Tom Brady's nex? No, he has to continue to let the basketball players sit before. He gets a seat at the table ourselves. Last thing we gotta go. Okay. The problem we're having here is all your houses have been in California. No, that's not true that the buffalo Florida, you knew Ida briefly. Okay. Are you a califor- you your? What does your California listening? I'm from the middle American and they build houses and middle America. All this flyover country. The Tom Brady is getting receipts that you think is going to everybody else. Okay. And these seats that Baker Mayfield if he keeps playing like that, they'll get any CV walls in anyhow in between New York and LA. Stick around. I welcome back. I'm Jason with lot. He's debt do it's time for some big stories. Let's start New England. We're Josh Gordon's trying to leave his troubled past behind after joining the patriots Gordon is expected to make his debut this week and Bill Belichick was as usual chatty self today when asked about Gordon's problematic history. Substance abuse. Over me about. So I wondered how you keep an eye on a guy like that and make sure that. Healthy mentally physically. Yeah. Oh, and talk about player another player's personal or injury situations. So I'm not going to do I well not everyone is being quiet as Bella check about Gordon's fast. I love with Peter King saying, quote, the patriots are a proud franchise, and I realized what I'm saying is a little bit idealistic crap Ola, but the patriots should not be in the business with Josh Gordon. He is not worthy of this franchise Marceau's. I'm friends with Peter King. I'm here. I like Peter King. I respect Peter King. I think he's a little off here off his rocker a little bit. I think we all know the patriots history from Aaron Hernandez to deflate gate in all of it. But I don't wanna go overboard with my criticism Peter King because I've been a writer and I've written some silly things from time to time. Okay. And says some silly again, so reference day block. You heard, here's a crazy. Look. I always talk about the act, not the actor. So Peter King boy respect. But where did this come from? Like what time of night did you wake up? You should stay sleep in, not right this one because it goes off on radio podcast, whatever. We got a podcast like it sounds elitist, but forget that part there in the football business. So the first and most important box, you always check any prospect anyone as walking in patriots organization is this, can you play football? Not as a choir. Boy, does he have the character I desire because you named Aaron Hernandez? Donte stallworth gronk old show Seco by personalities. The two biggest gates in NFL history. Spy gate deflate gate. The patriot way. Sometimes the narrative gets a little glossier then to reality. And I think right here is another example of you must qualify by personality by terminal. Forty two instead of by ball efficiency and by boss standards. There's a lot of potential settle in jobs Gordon. I felt like a another friend of mine. Mike, Lombardi, who worked in the patriots organization worked for the Browns. I thought he was on more solid ground in his criticism of the move. He thinks that Josh Gordon football's not important enough to Josh Gordon. Why would the patriots wanna be associated the patriots just care about football? He feels like it's a Wong fit because football is not important, and he's going to the organization. We're football. They just try to focus you on that. I thought that was more solid ground than to suggest that somehow the patriots have carried themselves in a way that it's beneath them to get involved with Josh Gordon and the other reason why. And again, I really respect Peter, but but I, I just want football for me and a lot of people at the pop Warner level and a lot of people when they're they're initial entry into football, it's a bit of a ministry. It's a way to re. Reach out and help troubled boys. And so he went off the streets right? When you come from Compton and zip code, I had it Indianapolis or whatever football and a male role model figures through football, very important, and it's about helping people get through their issues. And so does that mean you get in bed with everybody? Know OJ Simpson, Aaron Hernandez rate. Caruth is guys that obviously have done some awful things, but I don't think Josh Gordon's done anything to disqualify himself from a second tenth twelfth chance to find a better place. Totally agree. This is about changing someone's values and what they think is valuable because that's what you give attention to. So it's not a love affair here. It's about a paradigm shift and you talked about it the ministry you gift from football, the discipline, how it keeps you from being IDO and Ono streets or in other situations. That's all he needs. It seems and. That's always the effort of a coach organization who has someone who's a mouth content. You say, let me change what you think is most important. Now you love both things, and that's the whole purpose of trying to have structure and discipline is to re structure and organize that paradigm. So put football, I and this drop all these social and other things that are met your medicating about this, get that out the way and the patriots have been successful doing it, the Dallas Cowboys miss sessile doing it. They also have failed at times to a big to a big NBA story where Magic Johnson hasn't lost faith in Lonzo ball saying as one time franchise savior is poised for a big year after fixing his ugly jump shot. He, he's, he's going to be ready to have a breakout season and build on what he did last season because it was only a couple of things he had to do better. And so that was driving to the basket and. Finish and get the mid range in terms of really. To get a shot where he's on balance is not as shot. He's just has to be on balance. I'm excited for Lonzo and. He's going to be fine. All right. He left out the third thing that he needed to get together, and that would be as dad. And that's why I kinda liked a magic in this incident. He's doubling down the first time. We talked about him. He put him up in the rafters. He's going to be an all time. Great. I don't blame him for doubling down. If this is an indication he's at Magic's going to pipe up and lavar is going to pipe down. I like this. If Magic's going to be his biggest champion and supporter and and mouthpiece, bugle horn, whatever. I prefer that unless let lavar play the background. I like the move. I like him doubling down. I like to support of Lonzo ball. Lonzo ball had a historic rookie campaign despite all of his shooting issues. One of Larry's rookie card. The tin, seven, six Alonzo ball did only four players in history of Ben Simmons Magic Johnson big. Oh, and that get that key right there. Lonzo ball. So historic that set Lonzo is a very mature young man, and he's shown that maturity in the rap song right album for an athlete to don't sleep. He showed his maturity two times that I said, you know what? Any challenge you pose to this kid? He's going to accept it. The first one is when they lost in a turnament Kentucky, and he said in the locker room and they say, so what's your next step? Which the next move all players want to send a hallmark card or go to consult with your family. You see what's best for me going forward. I'm out. Next next question. Like I'm out in the and also this fight this fight when you saw them against the female was have walkaway teammates. I'm not wanted. With the fake toughness. I'm not with the RAV not with the old yo yo, homey back. He's like, I'm the man in here and I know that I am paid to play not to go out there and be an actor in this moment. So Lonzo has always shown a maturity beyond his years. I think he's gonna step. This is big, baller gear you're wearing. I'm Susan big baller. I'm glad you brought that up because you talked about the day Marcellus ball. Is that what I should call you? Because you just pointed to. He got ate up by the air and FOX in that final game against saw it as a great moment. And then he looks bad here walking away from a fight, not Cape it up for his teammates, and that's another great to see this completely different. Look, I'm hoping Lonzo is better this year. His shot was ridiculous. His stats or a bit padded. There's so many possessions now in the NBA if you put magic in this NBA as a rookie big, oh, and this their numbers would look ridiculous. But I'm hoping that they've made some progress with Lonzo ball. I'd like seem to well. Let's be back to dad, lavar ball, jumpsuit right here. I've never seen a workplace. This isn't as an athlete, a workplace where what your daddy says, affects how I go to work like his daddy do understand me crazy. Daddy's I've seen from pop Warner all the way through and even in a real rural being a retired athlete and media. Like if your dad says something about me, I dare me to actually have an have a response to your dad. We're doing this. Everything else is outside newest. How come the VAR wasn't seen is that I, I like I got boundaries in my life. I got in particular when it comes to work, don't family. Y'all stay out of this. I agree with that and see the benefits, but stay. I got this handle checks. But so to me, I just feel like the bar doing too much, but we'll get into that later. We disagree on the ball. We'll get into. The back myself in our joined now by. You've made a lot of those this week. Rolled in a lot of controversy. You've been on this show. A lot of times I've never seen you suited and booted today or the digital. Hours. He looks more presumably role. Thanks. So look, man, you've threatened to boycott if some demands are met you, you want some lifetime insurance benefits for hall of famers salary for hall of famers. Some guys have distanced themselves from the letter. You wrote. And so and now you face some feedback and push back about, did you cross a picket line in one thousand nine hundred? Seven. Just just summarize for us. Where is the movement protests at right now? What is your position? How much support do you have from your other hall of fame member? Well, let's let's start with the with the. Across the picket line. Let's start right there because I've heard that. I heard that a lot of time. Matter of fact, I have my good friend, David Hill who said to me coming up to stay. If you the cross the picket line and forty seven gap, everybody would have went the wrong way, tiny, tiny, tiny, you know, I never crossed the picket. Let's get that straight. Never crossed the picket line. The last game I play for the Los Angeles Rams was in Cleveland, October twenty six. I think I had three plays. I never crossed the picket line that one time because you know, I'm all about the team and that and that's what it comes down to. I mean, you see these articles of south cross the picket line and man, that stuff was written thirty one years ago and thirty one. Any one thing about media back then they could say stuff and we had no recourse. We had no, no Twitter. We had no Facebook it, you, you go to another rider, retracted. You might get a lead Beatty something. That's what you got. Look boys. The support I've got. I've got so much support. I've got. I've got a list of guy fifty guys right now. Joe Montana came out today and said, he supported the big. Thing is when we started this, this is was for hall of famous and players. We want to start with the hall because those are the guy that people recognize the names, all of a sudden for guy walking, hey, my name is John Thompson, and my name is is is willy willy willy Jones. And I played in one thousand nine hundred seven I played and I want to talk about my health care. Okay, but all of a sudden you walk in Joe Montana, you walk in Eric Dickerson, you walk in Lawrence Taylor, you walk in Jim Brown, you hear those names, it changes things. That's all it was. We tried to get in the door. Look, this is not all on the league. This is d'amour Smith. They started this gene Upshaw use ago. Dividing the players that is the main problem is the division of players. Everybody's when we got some here. We've got some here. I want to say this is the group out there called fair. That's John Regan's grew. I talked to his wife, Lisa Marie. Regan's we're talking about joining forces because they're doing they want to do the same thing. You've probably never heard them because you know how to big names. That's what it comes down to is an either say, I don't look at myself is to star power. My main thing here is to try to help the play. You might not like how we did it. You might not like the message hide came out, but you know what, when somebody shoots and there, what did you do? You look up was shot come from, and that's what it is. Okay. Let talking about Eric. They are. Talking about it and you, you said you have a long list of people who support you. There's another list that I have. There are people who are criticizing not the calls, but but maybe the messaging and how it was related to the public. I'm on that list this talk about you said division and how the NFL is dividing this situation. This cost, there's even division amongst the hall of famers in particular, Jerry Rice and Kurt Warner. So can you explain to us how come there's even solidarity in the hall of fame committee in terms of dismiss? That's that's an easy question. Asked all I'll take. I'll take responsibility for code one. Of course. It I'm with. I'm with it, Eric. I'm with it. Okay. I'm going through seven drafts that night. Go into all the drafts of it trying to make sure. Okay. The lead the lead, the lead all the drafts Kurt Warner say he supported, but all it was, he's not on the board. He's support. Okay. He's now on the board. Okay. What's the different? He's not on the board, but he supported Jerry Rice. Now I'm listening to Jerry Rice a little different. Lost Taylor Comey yesterday he's a Eric heard what is said to other guys. I heard that you say, I say, man, I don't want. I'm not doing you know what. I'll take. I'll take that. What did he say? Yeah. I know what I don't want thought to buzz. It's I'm not. I'll take it, but let's just say this other people standing there not just Eric Dickerson hurt that his ill team never call you for this. He said, man, you tell me, blah, blah, blah. I say, you know, I, it is what it is. Okay. Okay. I don't want you to somebody else on the bus, but people are not just attacking individuals and saying, hey, they're not what you they are with you. People are attacking this myself included. As is, it just sounds in totality opportunistic. It sounds like y'all sound like you you. You wrote a letter and it was the baby of TO's boycotts and capper Knicks protests. And you said I would take capper Knicks action and TO's action. And you know what? I got me a new calls because it seems like delivered to actively look at the NFL napata goal that they have and the growing economy and the now say the hall of famers need three hundred k. annually, why that message? And why is it sound opportunistic? First of all is never opportunistic and it's not about an opportunity. I mean, this was never like, okay, you know what? So he did that. You know, we're gonna take -til man. It had nothing to do with that at all. Nothing to that cabinet thing with with the Nike. This was way before that this Lema Ford had nothing to do with that, for sure. This is way before that for the Nike deal to you. And how'd that turn into ninety million NFL and now you're saying they're saying we want one hundred million from the NFL annually. No, let's go with the forget the number. It's not him about the okay. It's not him about a number. You know when you you don't negotiate whatever. The number is a number of years. I look at this here. Roger Goodell he makes forty million dollars. He makes forty boss. Miss makes five million dollars eight million dollar nudity. What about those guys? You know, these guys deserve this. We don't care what the number is it in about. It's not about the number. Like I say, get don't don't get caught up on the little bitty stuff at, you know what? He, he's not on the board. He's on the board. You know, this guy's not supporting it. He's he's out. He's in. I, I want us to put the brotherhood. I'm not supposed to call. I said, what's the brotherhood? I mean, look, we all players. Well, we are players. As players. We want to support one and that's all it comes down to. It makes it seem like like I'm trying to do something bad. Like I'm trying to take advantage of. I'm not trying to get anything, but you know what this is doing to me, this is killing. My golf game is killing. I'm on the phone. I'm on the phone. Taken cullen. Hold on to crack that joke though. You had to know when you took this position. It was gonna take over your life. Yes, I did, but I, you know what? Man? I I, you know? Yes, I did. I I gotta say I probably figured it would just grab it. Absolutely. Not of not at. Are you surprised by the negativity in know about you always get if everybody's positive, but some I mean, okay, you got it. Okay. What's going on and to give me somewhere and it's like I'm walking into the room and getting made, and I walk in overnight. Wednesday guy is some plastic on the floor. You know, wrap you up here. So most definitely I expected this. I mean, but the thing is we're trying to do something good for the players and every player I'm gonna say this again every player that played in the National Football League deserve healthcare and a proper pension. Not these joker pigeon at two hundred fifty. The seven hundred eight hundred dollars. The guys who played thirteen and fourteen years. It's wrong. You don't see major league baseball. Send up having this conversation. Let me ask you this basketball yesterday, and the reason why in my view and this is why support. You is because the NFL PA has horrible leadership. In my opinion. We got another that they got horrible leadership. And so I'm wondering though, why didn't you go to them and try to form a bond with them and then presented United mutate. First of all, they would say like, like, just like Jean, shall we don't represent you guys, y'all retired guys. They have no say in Harrison, they got players they do that come on. We did twenty eleven. They gave a nother nine hundred plus million to the benefit package. Most of it going to the pre nineteen Ninety-three players yourself included. So a Nolan Harrison out there doing tremendous work regardless if you respect him fully, why wouldn't you get a proper alliance? Because a lot of people have text mythic I respect Eric for stepping up, but why Eric Dickerson you tell them why Eric Dickerson for this cause as the face of it. Because this started just like I say, this started at the. Hall of fame a year and a half ago. That's how this discussion came up. When I left there this year we at this, I say, man, look, if we're going to do something. Let's stop talking about it unless actually do something because it's a lot of talk. And that's what it was just talk. We talk and we're talking, okay, who going to do? I say, okay, now we go back and start this, make sure you got my back on this because one thing with meals, I'm loyal. I'm Laura to. 'cause my mother was Eric is one problem which you son you to loyal. Everybody's not as law with you. I'll say it again. Look them. It might not be perfect. It's like when you play a football game, you know, you got the game plan. If it's perfect, you're going to score a touchdown. Every time you run the ball, are you gonna stop the offense every time it's not perfect, but it's, you know what has got everybody has got people talking about that's making a gear. Would you like to hear more hall of famers and more players speak out on your behalf? It doesn't seem like that are stepping up, you know what you know when you when you say speak out on my behalf, they can. They can interview to get a lot of guys, Mike, the interviews, Jack. Later, say that interview, but the big, the big. I guess the camera right now is on me like I'm all alone. I have fifty guys right here. The supported fifty-one guys this. It's not just me by myself. I think people have this perception that I'm in. My garage means a secretary. Another guy we all right. Here we go. We finished. We got no. Doing. It's not about the Joe. I talked him yesterday. He says, Eric, I want to tell you this here. He said, you have done more in two months than we've done in fifteen years doing this program fifteen years. That means a lot. Also, I'll tell you early, I'm we're going to talking about good getting together with John Riggins wipe his group fair. That's another group we want because they're trying to do the same thing. We don't wanna faction over here a fashion over here. Are you getting with all those groups and those with that one, we're not the NFL PA. Who has a long history of trying to improve these packages and actually improve these benefits you've seen within NFL peas downs? I was a player Rafer Martine years. Nine years. How many years were you? A player has never played. I wasn't ask to be a player really well. No, we had our player reps on our team, right? Yes. But I'll say it again, is that most? We don't. We don't have if we had a seat there. If we had a seat on on that boat host definite, we will go talk them. It's not that they always say, you gotta way to the CBA comes up. You gotta wait to the CBA comes look, you can do what you wanna do this, this, this could have they wanna do they can do. It's like I said earlier, you find a one shots. Now everybody knows about it. Okay. You fired a shot, Eric, Dickerson any regrets? Absolutely not. Okay. Not not at all. I don't regret anything. I know they did. The NFL is trying to who was trying to attack my. I didn't go into like liquid stuff, thirty one years ago. He's sued someone so he was on a quarterback. I was never unsought it. I'm like, I wouldn't know no quarterback club. I'm not a quarterback. I haven't been that clip came out. I'm like, what are we just started running basketball. We've thought about it, but it never went anywhere. I mean, it's like if you're looking for something, if you look, let me tell you some Marcel. Listen, I'm not perfect by no means you're not perfect. The view is at nobody's perfect. This is not a perfect plan we just want. Here's the thing that you put in that letter that here. Okay. And Eric, I won't be clear. I support what you do, and I understand why, because I think the leadership at the NFL PA from damore Smith is bad. They've won out fighting to take a knee, but not fighting help somebody's guys that actually need some real help. But but when you put a line in there, we're not going to celebrate one hundred years of exploitation, man, that's where you lose me. Man, that's charged the so many guys including you, right? Whose lives were changed by football to just summarizes one hundred years of exploitation that hurt me, man, man, imitates him. I don't. I don't mean to hurt nobody's feelings, but you know what? They call it casualties of war. We have sometimes look, that's what this kiss a Cadillac damage and casualties of war. Look. You can take the word out, remove the, it's just a word. I got you. Move me to the point. Okay. This is another point. This is why you're struggling getting support though. Did Jason? I'm not doing gotta formed former player, so I hear. I hear capable calling it a war, Eric, and maybe MA casualties. No, but that's characterizing really needs to be more partnership and more understanding to get the results you want. If you go to war, they don't bring out there guns too. And they got big, we know their war chest. One of the things we learned in our player association beans their war chest. They have more missiles. We're trying to get it and collective bargaining. That's what that experience you don't want thing about about about the NFL has been. Our downfall is that we can't get the player of the stick together. And that's the biggest thing I think that's and just like this deal here with the hall of famers. This is why it's such a small group of guys. That's why we started you because small group will get and really in a sense, what are we losing? I mean, we can't suspend this right. You know, they can't find us, you know, what are they? Gonna come take out jackets. They're gonna come take out rings and stuff. That's why we wanted to start here. I to try to get it going and then like all we want all players to have this every not just us, but let's start here. I well, let's start here. If what is the end zone? What is the touchdown? Because you gave action to this letter saying, if we don't get x. we're going to boycott what is x. I said as much, let's say, if you feel. I know this much as a board member if we don't get something as myself, I'll just speak for me and the powdery nobody cares about coming out. I know our won't be there. I talked to other guys who said I wasn't going anyway. I'm tired of how the exploit the guy I'm talking about. You'd be surprised how many guys it's like it's like going to court of said year putting you on the list. I'm a witness, but hey, don't nobody knew I'm on that list now. I mean, I'm only they don't say that it's a, it's a a lot of guys. Melissa say I've been for last thirty years, but you know what the calls I'm not going back now. How come that you try to tell me that's not married to MTO -til the first player I know of that said, I'm not gonna hall of fame and now this year you said there's a growing list of people not going you saying that's not opportunity you saying that's not big or not ios crashing in what am I cash in cash gaming? I'm getting something out of it. I thought she wanted to do this for something, but I am doing something. I'm not cashing Emmys money when I'm gonna say three hundred thousand. Yeah, I know three hundred thousand. I didn't say three hundred. I said, we want a proper, whatever that number is whatever the number is the proper pitcher and healthcare. I'm not trying to cash in on. I'm not trying to get over on nobody. I we want, what what's right, that's all it is. It's just what's right, and I'm just blew. We gotta go. Now we go to sleep. We will have, we will. And I'm so glad this the interview and starting the conversation. NFL PA jobber. I wanna back Marcel scenario joined now by NBA champion, Dante Jones as you all know. I'm a journalist and we've got our resident Ivy league grad Marcellus Wiley here. So we're going to put on our thinking caps and take a deeper. Look at some big issue in sports. We've got a special cap for Marcellus, smartest man in the room, his opinion, Dr knell bring it on. Oh yes. Let me from what this is going to America. That's. That's how we got. We got a jelly over there who. Here. Harvard at a salvo here comfortable in Auburn, say. Let's let's move to the NBA where Jimmy Butler trade demand kicked off the latest in a long line of MBA social media feuds after the news broke the brother of Butler's teammate, Andrew Wiggins tweeted Holland Luigia, which got a strong reaction from our friend and former NBA star. Stephen, Jackson, this out of conversation should've win with Andrew Wiggins and his brother when Andrew found out his brother son out there, tweet about how they Louis and all right. I'm Andrew Wiggins, say big bro. I don't think you should have sent it tweet out why you say that. You know, Jimmy Butler, man. He played with a lot of art. He played all he played with a lot of heart and I ain't got, no. Now you wanna get on social media and talk about Jimmy, we lose him. I team ain't got, no. Now you going. If you're gonna take me to the wizard and every finding you'll be road to give me a heart and cool. You can talk about Jimmy all you won't. 'cause you know, I ain't got no hot. So. Going to take their back. Tell me finding yellow big road. Take me to the wisdom man. 'cause he got no at all. That's why Cleveland traded me. No bullet. Man, Andrew, Wiggins. Headed response of as a home writing, quote, Stephen, Jackson slash stay hating like he was anything special bomb ass. I keep that same energy and everywhere I go. Guys, we see stuff like this all the time. Now, athletes have taken to social media like Fisher taking the water, and we know more about what these guys are really liked that ever before as media members. We stories out of it as fans, we get entertainment out of it, but haven't we lost something as well. For most of our lives athletes, were he rolls mythical figures who served as stand ins for larger principles like leadership, perseverance, humility. But what principals do these guys Stanford? Now, LeBron James is less mythical. When he sub tweeting his teammates. Kevin Durant doesn't look very heroic when he's arguing with teenagers on YouTube, Kevin, Kevin, Kevin, all this social media access has diminished our heroes, and I think it poses a bit of a danger for pro sports. I want my, I think sports fans want their athletes as mythical heroes. We don't want to know too much. Oh, you want your perfect person that doesn't exist to me humanizes the athlete. It makes you think, oh, he has warts. Also, he has issues in his life. Wow, that amazing guy on TV is actually just another human being walking. This planet would a tremendous style in something else. And look, I think that is a special quality when you can see that the guy. Next door has become something big King Solomon. You love the bible. You of you talk about your Krista values, nothing new under the sun for an athlete. Like me Dante. These experiences are nothing new. We sold him. I understand the masses work privy to that information into those optics. But to me, this is nothing new if anything, it humanizes him. My first question to you is who had who would athlete had this leadership? Perseverance and humility growing the myth, but I was a child. That's not what I thought of my athletes. It's just that they were talented and that that something could aspire to be that they were. They were just the best of their crafts. However, the humanization of the athlete has been great for their brands monetize in their brands, being able to make more money having having filmed like you, you could be that person. You could dress like that person. You could do these things and that has been the positive effects, but it's been monetize ING. Also they're cherries you saw with JJ watt did in helping an. In helping those people out in Houston. Those things have been positive, social media, all those positive things for the athlete. And I think the negatives as you've said those, those are things that we have to watch out for is athletes because your feelings are getting drawn too far into it. I think when we had at least as God as heroic figures, the fall from grace was too far because when we saw them as that high and when they showed the humidity in the news at that point time, it was a tough fall and it was tough for people to see their guy go down like that and it was it was a big blow. But I think now it's better for kids to see these athletes humans because it's something that I could be in something I can grow into something that is reachable rather than just being something that's just out this stick with me here for a minute. This is like a new thought in the moment as premier flight professional athletes, you spent fourteen years in the NBA terriers in the NFL. And so from probably when you were particularly you plan at Duke eighteen nineteen years old at Duke all the way through your. Sessional career to me, you're kind of removed from being a fan and I think you know it Columbia, it's hard to, but ten years NFL you're removed from being a fan, and so your thoughts about sports aren't the same as a fan. True. And so that's why I think y'all maybe missing my conversation here fans and which I was a fan throughout my whole life. My whole college football player experience never thought of minute about the NFL once I got to college or whatever. And so I'm saying for fans, it's important that we not know too much because once you start knowing too much, you start figuring out things you don't like, and it's not just the enjoyment of the play it now because you know what this person thinks this does that he's got know. I've seen some things that make me disrespect his character. And so now we're not just enjoying the experience with think. About you in a way that I don't think it undermines the popularity overall of the sports may. But what I've learned from the fans that the hate is something that fans go back for more than the love. Most of the time, the things that I don't like about that guy draws me to him and the more that I could dissect. It gives you a different interaction with these guys than just the love, and that's and that's better for fans because fans can now engage with the ones they hate enegagement, whether the love they, they have a full engagement rather than just on on a love perspective, just admiring as the love or love to hate Floyd Mayweather cashes in every single time, hey, on the hate element. That is a part of his camp as much as the people who say, hey, you could be in a phone booth with the guy. Never touch them. I love Floyd Mayweather for me. I understand where you're coming from as a fan. I agree with that. The fans are now in a different reality and alternate reality is social media. It's made what you do and what you did a little ops elite, we used to get our messaging from a reporter. We used to. Get, hey, you gotta wake up the next day to watch. Watch the highlights or read the paper, and they told you what happened now. Just tell me who's was on the team. Let me follow him on. I g oh, I know what's happening in the moment before he's off the field already know instantaneously what is occurring and emotions behind it. Sit completely different storyteller is to athlete. Now not the journalist kid. Now that is not my position in this conversation. I think he raised valid points that social media has changed the journalistic profession. I'm a hardcore journalist truth be told, you know, my dream was to be a sportswriter mind, tire light had to transition because the things have changed the way you're talking about. Let me give you a different analogy of what I think is going on here and it's more playful, but it serious. It's like dating a guy or girl, and you know them on a surface level, you're not waking up with them seeing him. First thing in the morning, the CNN perfection and blah, blah, blah. And and you're not ten years into a relationship where all the. You'd like that. Yeah, I know. Into that. And it's like, let's just survive this relationship rather than have that passion we had at the beginning before I knew everything about you. That's where I think again, these guys are exposing themselves in ways through social media and Facebook, and they're building up the little individual brands and preaching to a what feels like a huge choir, but it's actually a small choir that's following them and they're missing out on the masses because we know too much. I wasn't. He warned as a kid least. I was never date your fantasy because if you out. It's just a normal person. And one thing that made me fall in love with my wife. And I think that one thing is makes fans fall in love with with athletes, even more now is her imperfections. She's not a perfect person. She struggled with them things and she fights through him and she perseveres. And that's what maybe fall in love with her more than what I saw on the surface level. So I think finding out more about the athletes and fighter, they're not. This thing that is that it's not able to be achieved makes makes fan engaging, even better. I'll maybe increase it whether it's in real sports and Mohammed Ali, and his struggles that seemed like it was front page news. People saw the ups and downs of his career and his sacrifices or even a movies rocky. Like I remember being a kid love and football football was my way, but falling in love. A rocky for one thing to do was a perfect and I was like, yo, he's finding ways and it just it energizes me. It made me feel fully motivated. I could be somebody that's not perfect and make. So there's some things athletes have been doing Kevin love, and some other athletes have been talking about mental health issues and their strollers with depression and things like that. I think that's relatable, but when I'm looking at NBA players talk crazy each other, and I'm looking at Antonio Brown and are disguised as just flaw, sit in living irresponsibly and things like that. That doesn't. I don't think as a fan that doesn't make them more attractive. It makes them less attractive as opposed to some of the struggles and obstacles they've overcome that make them look good gotta, take the good with the bad, I think, yes, you're absolutely correct on that one. I think that we have to try to minimize those those interactions with fans, but also on the flip side and you get to see the struggle of the athlete, the work that the athlete puts in his home life. You get to see a different view of the athlete and our chain that full pitcher what helps people survive in their own lives. Then they have to work hard to that. Nothing is giving. It's not. It's just not a talented person that God given ability. Note, this happy puts his blood sweat and tears. He has a family to hit the hold up to, and that is what this is increasing. This fan engagement in my thing. Welcome back for joined now by FOX football analysts day one stat, Andy as well hall. Let's return to Cleveland. We're Baker Mayfield dazzle Browns fans in route to the teams I win and almost two years. Meanwhile, the other rookie quarterback Sam darnold looked like a rookie quarterback, unable to do much of anything in the second half as Baker dragged the Browns back into the game. Afterward, Donald shoulder, the blame for the loss for me, from my point of view, I just got to play better. Simple as you know, not not acceptable the way that glade tonight. I know that but also to take it like a man. You know, I'm just, you know, I feel like I'm responsible for, you know, some of the stagnant offense that we had. So. You know, I just I just got play better. That's that's really it. I thought that Baker Mayfield diminished, Sam darnold last night. I thought Baker looked so good. It took a lot of shine off Sam darnold. I don't think they're in the same class. I've felt coming out of USC. The Darnell was a little turnover pro, and that's what I still say. I see that I saw something that was bigger than just a game like the universe stepped in and said, this is a moment. And this moment was set up for Baker Mayfield to shy. You get a concussion to your starting quarterback. Joe Thomas sitting there lost one hundred pounds in like five days. I mean, Joe was good sitting there. Everything would just set the stage was right. They circled this game all off season. As Troy. Aikman said, this is the game. We should win the first one because you've got New Orleans. You got Pittsburgh. They didn't really think about those. It was just set up for Baker Mayfield. He showed up. He bought, we're not going to run too far with that. I still think Sam darnold something special. I wasn't surprised at all, and let me tell you I an opt to, you know, doing a college games to see both these guys. Played going their whole careers. And I said this on records, I thought we really thought at one point Sam Donaldson is going to come back for another year, and I think if the hype and they didn't start pushing them be a top five, pick deep in his heart. He knew he needed more playing time. So I don't. I don't fall Sam at all. But I said, if you took darnold Rosen, Allen, all those rookie quarterbacks. And you said, I'm putting the ball on the twenty yard line, and you got a score touchdown to keep your job. I said this six months ago, you know who I'm taking Baker Mayfield because this guy, I just he, he just got the desire to win the ability his passing. Everybody took them as a shorter guy that scrambled around look at his touchdowns the interception ratio and Oklahoma, this guy wins games and leads. And I don't know. I wasn't surprised at all. Yeah, I was a little surprised because I wasn't a fan of Baker coming out on knew he was an explosive playmaker. I knew he could extend to play with his feet and I knew we had a great arm, but I just wasn't. So he didn't really have that it factor, but you watch this game. And he did it for me. He absolutely took the shine away from Sam darnold because he not only came back and won the game. If it was zero zero game and he came out and won the game. Okay. But this kid was down fourteen points back against the wall and to come out of that hole and then propel them to their first win in so long. Yeah. It's going to be hard to hard to follow that. I felt like I could feel the love of the Cleveland Browns players for this rookie quarterback that it never even played. I said that before too, when tyrod was out there and I know everyone always talks about the admirations and respect guys in the locker room half for him, but the team didn't look the same. They didn't play as hard guys weren't running routes. They didn't block quite as well. And so maybe all the hoopla we've heard the reason they drafted him is because he when he steps into room, he'd lights it up. He changes it. People want to play for him. I saw that and that's invaluable. He, you know, the advantage it he has when you look at the big picture and I just look at it from a coach standpoint, you got tyrod Taylor. I mean, this guy is a plus. He's going to be a huge help to Baker Mayfield. I mean, he really will. I believe that I think they've got a great relationship and you got that defense from Cleveland, right? It's gonna give Baker Mayfield a chance to. I just think hate to say this. I don't know if they're a better team or not. I'm not gonna go that far. The Baker mayfield's has a lot of things. I think that give him a chance to maybe move forward a little bit quicker than salmon a situation. I like how you brought up the relationship because I see a parallel between what Alex Smith was able to do with Patrick calls for the entire year. And now you can see a stable quarterback protects the ball, tyrod Taylor, same kind of situation. This takes me back to when I played and game recognize his game in the locker room, and you can see the energy change once Baker hit the field, Doug Flutie on our roster, shorter. No one thought he had a chance, but we saw them in practice. We had Rob Johnson, who was the statue was a statue Raza. Look the port, the deport all that I tell you, we were all in three, rob at quarterback, he gets injured. We went. Goes to the playoffs after Doug Flutie becomes a quarterback change something about the energy instantaneousl- e it just everything changed. Amd Donald doesn't have that energy man. He may have the arm talent. He may be a good player, but he don't have that little something extra. He got moxie. I can't go there. Whatever he has boxy. He dating from a feel moxie though, like talk about being a defense, a guy, you tend to not really like quarterbacks, but baker's the kind of guy watching him interact with these guys that you want to hang out with, then he would hang out with you. It's almost like, I'm sorry, we gotta go on this, but it's almost like the dip between Alan Iverson and some other point guard, Kenny Anderson. Alan Iverson just had that little some exit and Baker mayfield's. Got it the same way. All right. Thanks. The coach. About my cell. You know, I can't stay in what's going on in social media. So we've got our social media manager Darnell Smith here to convince me it's not so bad. Allstate shirts. I had a switch it up. I had this, Wichita got some moves to make after work, so I'll be able to go home. It's the weekend baby with low budget ball state, come on many. I got my towel right here and you gotta represent every day this to sing yourself from the program. I'm not shoot more settled. Tell you what Columbia? Sure. I don't wanna hear. We got done l. yeah, let's talk. That's all your new man crush Baker Mayfield whose comeback. We ain't got everyone from the Brian James. So the police department tweeting their excitement, but some of the biggest reaction came from after the game when coach hue, Jackson addressed the media, shake this off from Cleveland radio homes, crispy door, Hugh Jackson, or whether bigger Mayfield as a new start. QB I have to watch the tape. A lot of people were teasing Hugh for that same wash the tape line. You guys? Okay with people, Hugh Jackson Jasper, this. I have a big problem with this. Why can't stay in Twitter and this? Why? This gets a whole Canada Twitter off. I watched the entire press conference. Yes. Hugh was FU sive in his praise of Baker Mayfield hugest didn't want to on a David Toronto Taylor got hurt with a concussion announced, oh, we got our new starting quarterback and make a big deal out of it. And then if you understand Hughes position with John Dorsey. Really controlling things. They hired offense coordinator for Hughes gotta go through proper channels before he can make that announcement. So this is whole a whole little fake controversy making huge look like he said something stupid when he really did preach. It's not the time to dance on the grave of tyrod Taylor as a starting quarterback more than likely. And it's also something that you have to take up stairs, and people don't know about the NFL experience. It's not just always the best eleven out there. They have to sit around table and it's the owner is the GM is to cap. Bala gist is community affairs marketing, and they all get the vote on his this the time for obvious reasons. So I think he has to take it upstairs. I Don. Darn LS next, yes, let's move the OB Jay. Who we talked about yesterday after he tweeted how upset he was about gaining randomly drug tested for p. d.'s and well, he got on Twitter last night during a Browns game and might have given drugs have some more ammo replying to NFL network tweets, showing Cleveland's first touchdown with this bunch of nonsense who would at hanging fruit. Dell's random drug testing, maybe a little bit. But nah, I'm not gonna make too much option. Awesome. Silly tweets, but I normally delete things like this. It makes no sense, but maybe he did it on purpose? Yeah, I think that he's actually having fun with the random drug testing. He's like, oh, y'all really think I'm that guy got some for you right here because he doesn't have any kids. Right? So that would only explain when your muscle and gets my phone. Oh my God. If I, if I send you a text, it wasn't me then Herbert Hoover. So that's the sun texts like the three year old tech. So I think it ends with RV you or RV d in Kansas City. I knew the RDC vs row. Dog village fifty. Seventh street road dog village shot up my boys in Kansas. Termine seventh street road on billing. Say, Guben the house, a different shoe. We're getting back. We getting back. Any of it and that's motor colleges were former Louisville coach, Rick would no join Twitter and already has more than six, eight thousand dollars within a day of I post, we'll lock. I thought you might actually like this tweet, check it out for years. I've stayed away from Twitter because there was very little seventy. I will stay completely away from semitism and destructive words. I hope to bring the spirit of optimism which is so needed today, yuppie, Rick, potato crashing, fixed Twitter. Yeah, I think this is what they call peeing into the wind. To do it. I love Rick potato. I really do, and, and I got some sympathy for him, but this is, yeah, this is a little naive and he really needs to keep it more honest. This is what I don't like it. He's not being honest here, so I'm gonna give it. I've avoided Twitter because I actually had a job in something to do now that I don't have anything, right. I'm a hop on Twitter, my job, I wanted to doing all the most positive things. Look, I'm not. I'm not following them, but I will look even if I'm not a recruit. I'm following him because that's where the party's at. And I say what he wanted messes one, but Twitter will unveil. It will reveal who you are overtime. Wait for that. I'd love to see his deal. Oh, jail. A coffee shop, everything going. There's gonna be a problem with Richard Tito. Yeah. Finally, we're lot you say someone said they got a little trashing online. Let's roll this clip from you talking about Bill Belichick. Honestly, the Malcolm Butler decision is one of the dumbest decisions. A smart person is made in the history of the planet. The only thing I can think of on the same level is when prop Joe introduced Marlow to the Greek in the wire, Joe crawled into his own grave. With that one, it was over well, a fan named Kevin called you how we're like, Sweden, did Marlow Brabham prisoner to find the Greek on his own. I don't think prop Joe introduce, introduce him to anyone in that fear. You want to explain herself here. We're not when I got this tweet this morning, tears, stroll down. Gotcha. I'm known as a wire historian. I've never wrong about the why. And this guy called me dirty. I one of my favorite scenes in the wire is when Marlo sits down with Avon so that Marlo can get to Sergei to get to the Greek. I just blew it and I'm ashamed of myself. I need you to apologize and social media because this is a good thing and then corrected you. None of us assess smartest all of us, and that's what social media is. So Kevin Stein moved. Thank you for correcting me. Our policy is apologize. David, Simon, and all the wire fans out there. Apologize to Avon, stringer bell. Everybody prop Joe cheese wag the whole now. Rob John's apologize, terrible, terrible. Today we're looking at Baker Mayfield like the first overall pick sued last night playing with confidence, leaving the Browns to their first winning almost two years. My approval ratings for Baker Mayfield is way up and we have a historic moment in SF y. History are good. Go status would for Baker Mayfield performance up fifteen to a perfect twenty five all time. Greatness up two points to a seventeen authenticity, a twenty four character up one to seventeen. For a total of eighty three. We have a goal. Don't. Is that a lamb go. Look, we're living in a world where we've done Serena Williams Bill Belichick, Aaron Rodgers, and none of them were goats, man. And as you go me, Baker Mayfield is a go on the hell. Do you go there and job performance twenty-five? Perfect. You don't play any better than even last night. I throw a touchdown pass that helps and he didn't do that. So he plays quarterback without throwing a Tuesday. I actually played receiver doing the triple reverses that catching the past that looks cute. That's not sustainable. They were down fourteen nothing Marcellus and he came back and won Royce Thursday night, football, respect. He rose this team from the dead. I give you all that, but I am not going that far with job performance. Look at the real. Upper form. He has a nineteen down three go down. When you come from behind off the bench, how do you go down? Would you win the Heisman if they gave a Heisman at the pro level with that performance hail? No. Last time I saw him in college. It wasn't Heisman. He's the best that in Heisman last time you saw him in college, Georgia beat him in the playoff game. That was amazing game to. I'll give you a little bit of that, but he's going down to me not as great as that performance all time. Look, he gets the sixteen up to look. He's already a Heisman Trophy winner, so we'll never forget who he is. You go up to because you're already starting fantasy conversations, storybook conversation in Cleveland as Kenny, be the next icon character up for you know, the rest videos starting to distance itself from us. The documentary kinda took a little step back. You like, did you watch his post game interview with the NFL network? Who is great, nailed it, nailed it. So I'll give him a little up, tick their authenticity up as well up three points to twenty just because of the NFL network interview. Any does come off. Well, in the documentary, once she realized while rookie has a documentary and you don't that affects seventy two is ridiculous score for guy. He's not a go. That is good. He's he's an approval rating next week. He may play like crap and we'll drop him down in one category. I will, but bottom he's a bottom level all star. In terms of how you perceived by the public right now, not a goat. 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1997 Redraftables: Duncan the Sure Thing, T-Mac the Sleeper, and Rick Pitino the Ruiner With Joe House| Book of Basketball 2.0

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1997 Redraftables: Duncan the Sure Thing, T-Mac the Sleeper, and Rick Pitino the Ruiner With Joe House| Book of Basketball 2.0

"Today's episode of the Book Basketball to point out on the ringer. Podcast network is brought to you by the Ringer. Dot Com and the ringer podcast network. Where we're still trying to crank out a bunch of content including this week on the Ring Dot Com the greatest TV characters of the twenty first century. We did a whole bracket so you can check that out as well as other pods. Were down coming up. Nineteen ninety-seven draft. Joe House and I are going to redraft this. This one has a lot of sentimental reasons to me specifically careerwise Boston Fan wise. You're about to hear all of it. Rick Pitino. You Bet WanNa turn this podcast off right now here. We go book basketball to put myself Josh earnest of basketball. She fast fast to book of Bash. All right we are doing a nineteen ninety-seven NBA. Redraft my name is Bill Simmons. Here with Joe House were on the zoom. Were zooming resume. It's good to see you buddy. We may never see each other again. Only only relationship as well. At least I'm willing to look at you only on the Internet As long as it means that neither one of US got the Rona. Yeah well I think this hopefully will lead to a lot of things like this including I kind of feel like we have to do a re watchable as of the eighty six pastors. Oh my God in the place of Masters weekend which I. I'm upset about so many things. I really Miss Basketball. I I fear for the future I fear for my family and my kids. Not having the masters is just going to be A. I can't even deal with it mentally. It was always the sign that Spring was here for me. I opening day was the masters. Yeah I'm with you on that and we are going to lose that but I still have hope I'm keeping hope alive BS. We could have an incredible on unprecedented. Once in a lifetime fall sports schedule. That includes all four majors running from like the end of July through December way along with everything else would be pretty Tizi if I may say so. So we're doing I did the ninety six draft with Russillo now in the ninety seven draft Just to reiterate some of the stuff here I created a scrap rating. Oh It's the acronym for Simmons Crapshoot Rating To try to figure out exactly how much of a crap shoot. Each draft was compared to how we felt at the time. So for this one as we as we head into ninety seven which was the Dunkin Lottery We'll have to talk about how erratic it was compared to how we're feeling at the time the other thing is is it's pretty easy to rank all these guys different categories right to to try to figure out what level of a draft. We had so for me. I'm using the five star system. Okay super-duper Stars Five Stars. That's Tim Duncan who's going to be coming up multiple times in the spot. Alzheimer's a four star franchise guys at three star. Legit all star is a two star quality starters a one star so for anybody in a draft to even get to quality starter usually means that you did pretty well in the draft and then after that the categories would be starter lottery rotation guy so rotation guy that came from the lottery rotation guy lottery with not good enough to be mentioned that all and Ashim the beat. That's the last category. He comes up in the two thousand nine draft so the ninety seven draft lottery looking back it became the Dunkin lottery and it was hitting at a point. Which is there dear to our heart with teams really started tanking. This started when we were kids. It started really with the eighty three eighty four season and the Hickey Malaysia draft. Ralph Sampson was already on the rockets the rockets full-fledged tanked down the stretch their plan. Your Boy Elvin Hayes was our age that season they were playing him like forty nine minutes overtime games and stuff like that doing everything they could to get into that number one spot which they did in the year after they ended up having lottery What do you remember? When do you remember being aware of tanking? Because the eight the ninety six ninety seven Celtics unabashedly tried to tank for Dunkin hair. When do you I remember tanking? Yeah I think that's about the time frame. It was at mid mid nineties. I don't recall teams deliberately. Overtly and you know. Part of the thing in terms of thinking back to that era The information was was was Not as readily available. You couldn't get an early read on. What team was gonNA try and do and teams were were dumber back then? Teams Compete teams. Tried to make the playoffs even though they might have only thirty six thirty seven Winds as their highest potential win. Total out there so teams. I tried to get to the playoffs as opposed to going in that other direction which is kind of weird because back then. The odds were so much better. You really were rewarded for tanking back in in that era I just don't remember teams going super out of their way To to you know take things all the way down the way that the in the modern era exhilarated or if they were doing it we just didn't have the information network in place to understand that they were doing that. So this draft happens. June nineteen ninety seven a month earlier. I started my own website. The boss words guy. Why which I think. I started May Twentieth around there and started rank calms for Digital City Boston. The draft diary for this year was like the fifth draft. Ira ever dead. And I was just taking notes on a pad that I went to computer and typed everything. We really didn't have that much draft information. I don't even really remember how we read about the draft back then. I remember. Sporting news is online at that point Other than that there was no Chad Ford yet. Espn DOT COM was. Not What it was. We really only knew these guys from watching them in college. It was the old school experience of I had opinions and Keith van Horn right and Tim. Duncan and I had no opinion on Tracy McGrady. How the fuck would I know of Tracy? Mcgrady was any good right. Yeah now as you know what we had was sports center it was like whatever extended NBA coverage. We got out of sports center in that time. I don't remember it having any other outlet there was no NBA TV. You could learn about anything from that so even if a team made a massive horrible terrible mistake half half the time. Two thirds of the time. We didn't even know you look at this draft and the way it actually worked out where you look at it now and you go out T. Mac went nights at the time and that seemed reasonable. He was this high school or from South Carolina. We we didn't know where he was going to go. But you know the Celtics had the third six picks in this draft if they had taken t max sixth over Ron Mercer who I knew who had watched in Kentucky and appreciated right. I would have been bummed out one mercer played for Patino it. We Ha- Tinos first year. So you as a Boston Fan after you had to get over the anguish of losing out on Dunkin in in the lottery You know getting the getting a Kentucky Guy to go with Patino and fit in with the Patino thesis Which was the full court. Press the defense all that crazy stuff that he showed up with Mercer wasn't the worst. Pick now what we're GONNA to get him because he's GonNa come up later when we do the redraft so this was the Dunkin lottery. There was a weird moment somewhere between when the college season ended and the draft when Van Horn versus Dunkin became kind of a thing and I don't know whether people were just bored. We didn't know how to really write and talk about the draft back then but in Boston before the lottery shook out and the Celtics had like I think a fifty percent chance to get the number one. Pick that year and somehow get it it was. I'll tell you it was a thirty six percent chance that you probably singlehandedly sabotaged because you went to Cape Cod with the lunatic rather than staying home with with your dad and you know I know this because I have the book basketball I did. I was dating. I was dating somebody. Who's very nice person? Lovely Person. It was a volatile relationship but we we had the lottery that day. And you know obviously by family had season tickets since the mid seventies and my dad and I were GonNa Watch it and my lady at the time decided she really wanted to go to the Cape where where they had a house and I ended up. It'll be fine. I'll watch it from there. I'll just call my dad and the Celtics ended up getting The third pick and I I. I don't know if that was the number one reason. We broke up a couple of weeks later couple months later. But there's definitely a top there. I have a ladder. Regrets really did forgiving you. Well so I go back in two thousand seven to watch the Durant Odin lottery with him in the room and we got screwed on that one too. We didn't even worse. Says IT TURNS OUT BY location. Had No I had no bearing on this but I do remember there was a dunk. Had Van Horn thing heading into that and with Van Horn. You know who I think is now kind of underrated because he did get hurt His first couple years of his career were really good and His twenty point guy he was on good teams and he just couldn't stay healthy but tim. Duncan is the seventh best player of all time right so it's nuts that we even had one conversation about who to take. I agree the other We didn't really have a conversation though it will people were people. Were having conversation. We Watch college basketball back then in the same way that that folks You know might have. There was some crazy talk about like John. Morand going number one right just learned about. Yeah so the Celtics have emo car. That year is the coach. I'm going to all those games. My Dad doesn't want any part of it and now and they'll says after the fact that they were tanking tanking until the last twenty games last twenty games they started. That's when the LINEUPS got funky. They started playing Antoine Walker at center. He was a rookie. Do It just talent Antoine Jack. It up and but the first sixty games there was no tanking and they did their roster was built the tank they guys like Dana Barros tied day like they were trying to win there. Were just terrible. And who's terrible coach so coming off Len bias? Dying in nineteen eighty six. Reggie Lewis dies in Nineteen ninety-three Mikhail Perish Bird. They're all gone. The Boston Garden gets knocked down this dark times for the Celtics Boston. Sports in general and Duncan's GonNa save all of us. We Hire Rick. Pitino as coach. Em President whatever he was cou is such a dumb ass. He doesn't wait until after the lottery before he decides whether he's going to get the Celtics job takes job we get the third pick and then years later. He's complaining like man. If if we'd only got Dunkin I think my whole it's like well you could have just not come. How about that idea? You could have just not. He was desperate to get back in the in the league and they offered him a lot of money. Fifty Bucks. Yeah what a couple of other weird things about this lottery. You're you're Washington then bullets not in the lottery. You lack a decent season. Congratulations well you know the the the we were not in the lottery. We also didn't have a draft. Pick this nineteen ninety-seven draft came on the heels of the Juwan Howard resigning debacle where the bullets of violated the collective bargaining agreement by attempting to resign him to a salary. That was not acceptable. The commissioner voided that resigning And then let them compete and then basically engineered it so that you onstage in Washington. Dc. He He. He rooks the heat but the impact. The penalty for the bullets was loss of their nineteen ninety-seven first round selection. And that was still picking picking. Nobody was still better than five. Ernie grunfeld picks I mean well. It wasn't Ernie Grunfeld back. Then I know I know I'm just saying like the way it worked out is that still would have been like the fifth best. Ernie Grunfeld pick everybody on sell. So I mean you know God. Yeah so couple of other things. Vancouver is in the top five before they moved to Memphis. That was exciting. The Celtics had the third and six picks Toronto saw do the top ten. San San Antonio who you want to tell the story of how San Antonio even ended up winning the lottery what happened do you remember. I don't remember IT I. I've looked at it but you go through it. I mean I got hurt. The option I mean David Robinson Robinson gets hurt. It's a fantasy assassination. Robinson at that point is a top three fantasy basketball. Pick back when fantasy basketball is still great. I really enjoyed it back then. I think I had David Robinson on my team and he was just gone. It's like he'll be back in two months and then it was like now we're looking at March and then they just put them on ice and they ended up. I think at in the six spot but then hit the lottery with the lottery so they get it so at San Antonio then Philly. Who's a year? After taking Allen Iverson Celtics are three being cougars for Denver is five a perennial lottery appearance for them. Celtics six the nets number seven a year after Not Taking Kobe. Bryant the decision that would continue to haunt them or next two decades golden state eight hundred nine more content Sacramento Eleven Indiana. Twelve Cleveland Thirteen and amazingly the clippers at fourteen. Maybe maybe their latest lottery appearance. I don't know what was going on with them this year. So here's how the draft actually went and then we're going to redraft it. Just do the top fifteen here. Dunk into the Spurs van. Horn goes to Philly Celtics. Jump on billups Antonio Daniels to ban Cougar. Batista Denver at five at this point. One we're watching this lab. No surprises no crazy things yet. Ron Mercer six to Boston Tim. Thomas seven to the nets and then golden state gets a little funky at eight. They take Donald Foil. We don't have a lot of opinions on guys. We hadn't seen and draft until all that stuff but he fucking went to colgate. We went to Holy Cross. We were very familiar with the Patriot league at this point. And I remember being on the phone with you talking about this at some point that you're just being like there's a colgate guy who's alleged going the top ten. That sounds ridiculous. How is he not destroying the Patriot? League it was we was just a story right like Golden State drafted for the narratives. They didn't draft for the talent. They they wanted this guy and his story for for for whatever reason and and how smart he was. That was the thing so smart. Smart as per we've ever done a pre interview with and stuff like that. It's like well that's great. But if he was the Bill Russell of the Patriot League game with that bids he was on the Patriot league. I think the math for them as like Danny Fortson or Odonnell foil kite in that spot for what they needed. And they're like no fortunate right. Forza well forts. And so he was he went to Cincinnati. He MCGRADY GOES NINE TO TORONTO. Which was right around when people thought he was going to go and at that point he was just like the amazing high school player. Who's related to Vince Carter? But we didn't know Vince. Carter was yet Or did we know we've been so as he was at North Carolina at that point? So we sing yeah. forcing goes ten. He's at Cincinnati the Cincinnati guys at that point Rosa or a roll the dice. Little Wildcard. Yeah a little wild card just never knew what those Sacramento takes to recoup. Do a hod at number eleven. Do you remember what his would his original name was for this shaft? I do not alleviate John. Oh okay right. And then he became Tariq do Oeste. Crocheter goes twelve to Indiana at that point. Just the Classic Indiana Pick. It's like who's the Best White Guy? Let's grab him. Derek Anderson to the cavs at Thirteen Maurice Taylor to the clippers at fourteen and then Kelvin. Kato went to Dallas at Fifteen. I have a vague memory of US making jokes about his Burmese snake. The snake of Corey member. This what are you doing? He his snake attack. Somebody would happen with them. I don't remember this just the snake. I just Remember Kelvin. Cato and the giant snake. I'M GONNA look up our while. You're looking it up. I have to get. I have a cheat sheet. I need to get. I'm taking off my headphones second Oh okay this is what I wrote when I did. My top fifty moments of the nineteen ninety seven draft piece for page to which borrowed from the different drafts. Ariza did ninety seven the mavs Take Kelvin. Cato of former Dishwasher who ended up at Iowa state after a growth spurt. Tnt's to draft facts about him are quote never played high school basketball and quote. Owns a nine foot Burmese? Python snake apparently rattled by these facts. Dallas immediately trades cato to Portland for the number eighteen. Pick which turned out to be. Chris Ansi well. That can't be true like auditory considerations that that that there's no way that that that they like. Oh we didn't know about that. We didn't know that he had the giant snake other nineteen ninety-seven draft highlights just so you have them. This is what I wrote down. I honestly don't even remember any of this Near the end of the first round Peter Vesey told us the timberwolves inquiries made a trade seem super exciting and then the trade was Stoikov rank. Avik straight up for Stanley Roberts. So that would happen Oh another great thing that happened in this draft so Houston took Rodrick Rhodes. Huby described him as having incredible upside. That wasn't the first incredible. That was the first incredible unsal apparently according to my research. Wow and then six years later in two thousand three to up the stakes. He talked about the European influx and he created the word tremendous upside potential. Would you being a running joke for us forever? Like how do you even really have tremendous upside potential? Nobody knows Then another thing. That happened was the sixers. They took Keith van Horn second but then they traded him to New Jersey in the draft. In the you know the draft day deal and then Van Horn had to wear the philly hat even though he was headed to New Jersey so that that was weird era in the nineties when they couldn't even report the trade to the end of the first round. Oh yeah so. There was like two three hours of gist. People being super awkward key hat. Yes so that happened Another thing that happened in this ninety seven draft was after. Patino he takes Chauncey billips. Thirty takes Rod Mercer Six. There's a huge party at the fleet center for all the Celtics fans of Tito's there and Patino called his new ricky tandem. Quote my Dream Back Court for the next ten years. He traded billips after fifty one games. Rick Potato Hair. I wondered if all you do is lie Rick Potato. I have to tell you I wondered if the reason because this this draft sucked you know. yeah top the bottom it's a crappy draft and. I understand you know the point of doing it but I really wondered if the reason that you insisted that we include this draft in the in the in the zoom and the podcast is just so we could talk shit about Patino for forty five minutes so I had three reasons that was obviously the number one reason the number to raise it is. We're all in giant self quarantined right. Now there's not going to be sports for three months so what a fuck out. So we're GONNA talk about or in that I don't remember the third. The third recent drug cast here. No no no. I've just shown to sound and the third reason was Kelvin Kato's He is Burmese stink. Here's the irony of what happened with the Celtics. So they end up with billups they really could have taken chase instead of Ron Mercer at six And then a year later they fall into pierce at ten. Which would have happened anyway because McGrady wasn't gonNA help them in year one anyway. There's like a really conceivable worlds. It's not unrealistic where they take billups they take. Mcgrady they get pierce at ten the following year they already have Antoine Walker. It's not even like Oh man. Best case scenario like billips McGrady Pierce Walker. Really could have happened coming out in nineteen ninety eight. It really does properly reflect the bias at that time towards established college players. Like we'd seen Mercer Mercer had done things for Kentucky in pressure moments and it really was a bias that we carried You know all all as your Draft Franchise grew. We got together a handful of times. I mean we both made fun of Orlando for taking Dwight Howard over a Mecca okafor. It was bias because we'd seen we had this idea that seeing guys in pressure situations In the in the in the march madness tournament in the final four guys played the championship game that was meaningful. That was useful. Like you could. Nobody has to ask. What's the most meaningful game that Ron Mercer's ever played in? And how do you stand up to that pressure? Because we had the evidence of it and he had he played two years at Kentucky his second year he was eighteen points. A game five rebounds to assess Forty nine percent shooting. They didn't shoot a lot of threes back. Then but he made forty nine and Kentucky. They weren't they in the final. Say they want to say yeah? I think they want so. You know one of the reasons we felt that way and this has gone way back to our relationship which was largely built on basketball and eating and And making bad decisions with the women in our lives at the point but we really valued how people showed up at March madness and did that stuff and like a really good example as you and I always loved might soon to be friend. Jalen rose yes. We love those Michigan Teams. He came a big over and over again for those Michigan teams played in huge stages and then went to the NBA. Just got buried for four years and we were like. This is ridiculous and then all of a sudden. He's ninety eight playoffs. The two thousand fine Indiana and he blossoms in Jalen rose but we really did value that even with guys like Eric. Montross right And just people that had but I think what happened in. The mid nineties is once the talent and college started fading because guys were going right into the draft or one year then going right into the draft. I think in general the college talent started to deteriorate. We didn't realize it for a couple of years man. Mercer eighteen game wasn't as impressive as it would have been maybe six years earlier you know what I mean. Sure sure and you know there was absolutely no way in that time to evaluate Properly high school guys just no no way whatsoever. That's it was just a guess right. And by the way still the case at any rate going all the way through we eventually relived it with some of the foreign guys. I did the draft when Ya es felt I think fifteen. I remember saying during the draft. I thought it was a good pick at the spot. Really good value off right. We have no idea that this guy is GonNa be good. He was six nine. He was playing on these. You know You can think of these video grief that he was at a Ymca. Yeah so Couple of other things from this draught only three future all stars. Tim Duncan Tracy. Mcgrady chauncey. Billips You could make a case that those three guys if you're just rating them by Combine Rings All Star appearances all MBA wind shares salaries earned. Whatever you want to use those three guys are as good as any three guys. We've had in the last twenty five years from a draft. Oh Wow you could say Lebron Wade Carmelo or Lebron Wade Bosch Were better I think I will. I think they have a right. I think they have a case for the second spot. Is You're talking about the movie drawn. It did but I mean he. You know he wanNA ring he was. He was awesome in the two thousand four finals. He almost got to the finals again. In all nine yet a really good career and allowed respect. He was a borderline pyramid guy from me. I don't think he made it T- Mak was definitely impairment. Guy in T- mankad incredibly bad luck but Dunkin became You know top seven guys so if you're just talking draft since ninety four that threesome is pretty good. Dunkin was ten first team on. Bet's three seconds. Two thirds billups was two seconds and one third McGrady. The most underrated guy though ask twenty years. Probably if you're just talking resume to first team. All three seconds two thirds. The problem is now there's no way to sell The current generation. On how effing good Tracy mccray was like the? Um whatever that that. Youtube is of What does he scores? Thirteen points in seven seconds. Or whatever it is. That's like the best you can do to help folks get a feel for for it but he was so ahead of his time in terms of the inside outside game the range that he had how good he would be in this current. Nba is off the charts. Well the other thing with him. Terrible luck with teammates and then he leaves. Toronto which you probably should have. But you know wanted to wanted his own franchise. Toronto is always going to be Vince. Franchise when he left goes to Orlando thinks he's GonNa played grandma. Grandma gets hurt. He's never grant goes to Houston. He's with Yow who in retrospect bad fit for T- back even though they had some success but you know there's seven-foot sexy our clogging the lane and people. I've talked to either the Steve. Kerr Daryl Morey all of those people in the League now they always say T- Mac out of anyone from the from the two thousands would have benefited. The most from how basketball is played. Now he could already shoot threes. You could run an entire offense room. You wouldn't really would've wanted a space the floor for him which nobody was doing back then and he just wanted dominated. He was scoring thirty game. Anyway the funny thing is he is like James Harden Onepointoh. And if he was playing now he would be James Harden three point. Oh because he's he's better. I mean all due respect to James Harden the incredible talent that he is but t MAC physically. What he he was capable of and he he definitely has hardened range playing in this era. I would stack up harden and t MAC and let let let let's do a tale of the. Let's see which I prefer is definitely a much better defender in. There is a moment when he was on Toronto. Those first three years when When it looked like he was gonna be the pippen to to Vinci's M J when Vince came in the from the ninety nine draft. Then look so great as a rookie and it was like wow these two together and we never really saw the the tea back in the thirty point again score guy but you know his his two. Thousands are pretty unassailable. And they even the twenty two game winning streak where the second best guy in the team is Rafer Alston right. You know stuff like that. He never had his moment in the playoffs. But I don't blame him for that and you know it's funny. I people just especially the younger under twenty five people. Who weren't there for when these guys were actually at their peak. I think people probably think Vince Carter was better than t back right I think I think if you didn't know any better you would say. Oh wasn't vince better. And it's like it's not close. Actually teabag was much better than beds. Yeah he was a super duper star. Who just kind of never found the right situation but I remember going to a game that I think I wrote about this when I wrote about T- Mak because I really thought he was so underappreciated when he retired Alto Lada. Celts Games in the nineties. I was a ten minute walk from the guard and the whole thing and I think as a rookie they played there and he he wasn't playing he was he was just wearing Streak goes like a suit at that point and his. We're in this big suit. That just seemed to big forum it it just eat. You could just tell he was like a fish out of water like you could tell. He was in South Carolina nine ten months before this game and I remember feeling bad for him. I remember like man. I feel bad for this kid. He's nineteen it. Looks like he white. Like I wish he'd gone to college like a real kid. He's a kid and at that point in time the League was not smart enough. There was no infrastructure for development and for a recognition. It was just pure dumb. Luck of the draw where he found somebody in the organization. That could be a mentor to him. Teach him how to be an adult. Like how would he kit from? South Carolina know how to go live in Toronto with his background. His circumstances how how would like what? Ch- are the chances of success for him without you know a whole could a dedicated team of people to make a welcome arrival and then build on on on his development? I saw it happen here. In Washington with kwami Brown very similar kind of circumstance took him one overall. He's just a kid. He didn't even know how to do his laundry. I think that repeating Kinda phenomena because the league wasn't really accustomed to taking kids out of high school and didn't really have any mechanism in place to properly develop those guys. It was just like dumb luck whether or not there was somebody. In the franchise that could be like a parent to these kids. I think they eventually figured it out. But it wasn't until I'm GONNA say the Lebron the Lebron Howard era where they started to put real thought into wait a second. We're actually hurting our league in. We're hurting our products. And the competitiveness of league by not protecting these young assets. These guys are coming in and they're just not prepared to be professional and to understand anything. Yeah like a tipping point to me was like Jermaine. O'neal well that will you mentioned the Quami thing is I? Any curry was another one to me where those two guys get thrown together. Eddy Curry Tyson. Chandler get drafted is too high scores. It's a terrible idea. You know go to Chicago. They have no infrastructure in place for those guys and we you know entice the chain there for years you know He. He bounced around finally landed New Orleans and like two thousand eight. I'm GONNA say But the career that he had compared to I think if he had come a decade later. I think you would've been. I don't know 'cause he you know he seems like a really smart guy like he's a great team at all that stuff but he got thrown into the league like like on a frying pan. Basically what an incredible athleticism like if you had all the first ten years of his athleticism and his defensive instincts pretty pretty pretty impressive potential so one of the reasons that this draft was great was because we ninety five and ninety six was the first time we had some atrophy with the draft. Cause high-schoolers going right in and one and done guys one and done guys was a huge thing. So we had cagey goes into. The ninety five drafts read out of. Highschool Koby goes into the ninety six draft right. Outta high school. Marbury is in the ninety six draft. He's only Georgia tech one year. Sheriff Abdul Rahim. Who GOT HURT? But if you go back at the time in. The mid nineties was considered a prize. Yeah and was one of the highest rated high school recruits the whole thing. Yours good by the way he was good. He got hurt I did create the Sri Abdur Rahim all stars for him for the most meaningless twenty points a game. Anybody could have he had no. He seemed to have no real effect on his team winning or losing but he gets points and then Jermaine O'Neal is the other one and you think about it with ninety seven draft one of the reasons it seems a little lean is in the old days. Marbury would have stayed two years. Kgb is at college for maybe two years maybe. Kobe's one and done or something like that but you lose those five guys and this is when the League's Kinda readjusting McGrady replaces one of those spots but for the most part Ninety five ninety six or pretty loaded and And that didn't come round then the other thing WanNa talk about the Dunkin Lottery Because that's what this is called now. Did the biggest draft prizes in NBA draft history starts with Kareem. When was lew alcindor? Point flip between him and Neil Walk. That was the first time everybody really understood the stakes of the draft. They're not fans beloit. Nineteen seventy four Magic Johnson. Nineteen Eighty Ralph Sampson. And he came back to back. Eighty eighty three and eighty. Four ewing and eighty-five Robinson. I think eighty seven shack Weber Dunkin and then after Duncan it's interesting. I think you would only say Lebron Odin durant and then Ziad Don. So if you're just talking the last twenty plus years there's really only been other three lotteries where you're like. Oh my God they gotta get this. Guy. I don't really feel like anybody else qualifies right. Yeah now there's I don't I was doing the the mental calculus here Now that's it. That's the list where it's like. This guy could change our franchise. Yeah the Well I don't want to waste any time on it. I just use the Odin durant still hits me. It still hurts. Me Was Odin was really good in college. You know and and whether he should go first or second like eight. It wasn't crazy that he went. I know I agree. He was one a one. B We had we had a slight preference for durant because of what a pressure natural scorer he was and how much we enjoyed watching it but making him one A. and getting Kroger's not yet. This is the thing every morning I wake up. And I'm dealing with the allergies. The pollen is in full force here in Washington DC. And I just take my temperature and I try and hold my breath for thirty seconds to make sure I didn't wake up with the Rona but you take oral temperature anal. You know how I like it way. That is big. It's not small thermometer when I lost my point. What are we talking about? I don't know let's let's go to the draft. I have I gave this a scrap rating simmons crapshoot rating of three point. Five out of ten. Actually think it's a pretty normal draft if you redo it there's only six guys that I think could qualify as a starter or better and then after that you go into lottery with lateral rotation guys stuff like that Let's do a couple of Zack's before we do the the redraft the ringers Akram. Who IS One of the most advanced metrics seized guys. We not only at the ring are but I think anywhere in is really good at digging up stuff we call them. Zack's that asks Zack lashes. Zack's Zach says only three all stars came out of this draft which tied with two thousand and two thousand thirteen for the fewest. In era of all these redrafts. We're GONNA do here from ninety six on so not not a fertile draft for all stars. He said Dunkin alone made more than half. The All star. Appearances have been tire class. He also says the draft non lottery players are collectively the second worst on record ahead of only nineteen ninety one and then the top undrafted players in this draft were Damon Jones. Mikey more and Troy Hudson. I was like Mikey more me to love his hair. So we're new the redraft. I thought I thought we'd alternate picks. Okay so I'll give you the first pick because it's an easy one. San Antonio is on the clock with everybody in this draft duty half Tehran and Dunk Do you think he leaves the Celtics? 'cause I feel like he would have. Would you mean leaves after after so you could have backed yeah? They changed the CPA and it was three and out yet. The ninety five ninety six ninety seven guys. You're there for three years you could potentially either get out or you're you're available for an extension. They don't give an extension you have a roadmap to get the hell out of there. That's how when the ninety nine lockout ends member. All these crazy extensions are given out like Antoine Walker get six years seventy one million Bryant Reeves. All those guys I think Patino and Dunkin as a Combo and the Celtics are doing like these press saying and Pitino is just the NBA players just hated. It made more money that all them. He yelled at them. He treated them like their college players and everybody was out on him within a year and a half so I wonder like at some point. Does Dunkin stay or is he? Like it's either me or him as he run the hills. What does he do? I don't know I think Just based we have the benefit of of all of this twenty some years of of Tim Duncan in our lives and even at the moment he stayed at wake forest for four years I think he would have stayed like it was his kind of STOIC. Make it work kind of personality. Seems like it's impossible to say you know because he arrived in absolutely the very best position possible and it was a perfect fit for his personality. His demeanor his temperament And who knows whether the fiery Patino you imagine Patino would have had the good sense to be deferential to Duncan and he yeah he definitely understood. Dunkin's talent so I think Pacino the insane version Pitino that we saw with the Celtics. It would've been a different Patino. I think so. Dunkin almost left San Antonio to go play with Grant Hill and potentially t MAC that year when they're all free agents and if you go back and read some of the stuff it's pretty interesting. He was pretty close to leaving. I think the Popovich Robinson thing the how close was he. I don't know but the fact that he was even thinking of leaving that situation makes me think he would a left trademarks getting away from Rick. Pitino I want. I want to mention something. I mentioned earlier. The Celtics could have had billups. T N Pearce fucked it up. Rick Pitino talking potato how the nineteen ninety seven draft. Fuck you wreck petito okay. So philly is on the clock here for our redraft in ninety seven. They took Keith van Horn. Realize maybe this is somebody who should be the second banana for Alan Iverson. What's what's try to trade him for a bunch of pieces. They traded him to the nats for the seventh pack. Which ends up being tim. Thomas here's what that trade was number pick Michael Cage lucious Harris and Don McLean to the nets for Jimmy Jackson. Eric Montross Anthony Parker and the seventh picked him Thomas at the time it was like. Wow they got Jimmy Jackson and my boss. I trade good job. None of that worked out for either team. The lesson is always don't trade down in the NBA draft. It's if you have a blue chip pick. Maybe don't do it. Van Horn's ends up. He goes to the nets and has a nice little run here. Where I remember as a rookie. I remember really enjoying them. He averages twenty a game his first year then in the lockout season twenty two a game eight and a half rebounds house. Yeah I mean us a very credible pro nineteen points a game in two thousand seventeen a game in two thousand one and then in two thousand to Jason Kidd is their. He's fifteen game seven F rebounds and they go to the finals in the playoffs. He plays twenty games in the playoffs for them. Thirteen point three point. Six point seven rebounds forty four percent three point shooting. I know and I think what we would've seen with him as the League of all the he might've been a ahead of his time guy his three point shooting got better as it went along a Dallas. Was the team that eventually kind of a lack that he ends up on the Nazi gets traded back to Philly in the Matombo trade I think He ends up on the next Milwaukee. Milwaukee then plays Dallas for the last two years but for the last men the last For Two thousand three to two thousand six thirty eight percent shooter from three and I think that's who became. You just would put him in the corner. Yeah he he he would kill didn't in the NBA so Philly normally. I would say that maybe Keith van Horn but no because obviously they should've taken Tracy McGrady. Yes and there's a world where they have Alan Iverson and Tracy McGrady of the same team and guess what that world is realistic. Because they had the second pick It would have been considered complete lunacy at they did that though. Yes yes no. And we everybody would have mercilus. Mercilessly mocked them and and you know we saw Keith van Horn in the in the NC Double A.'s. Perform very well and lead the Utah Team. You know to to to great acclaim. So do they win the title? I can remember now because then the next year. Utah makes it back without Van Horn member. That the Andre Miller team and I think that was. That was an early ewing theory candidate because everyone wrote off that team with with. Oh don't have kids van Horn and they're not gonNA began and then some other all right. You're on the clock with the third. Pick the Boston Celtics by the way. I like you a hundred times more than the GM we had at the time. I still would have taken Johnson. Billups Chauncey billups was the right pick. There is the right pick now. He's right pick back then so they take Chauncey billips. The first night they play the Bulls in this is the third M J titled Team in a row the three P. team and we beat them. We comeback we press them at the game. It's like the most exciting celtics moment in five years. Yeah we come back. We beat the Bulls billups guarding Jordan. Billups is doing athletic shit and I don't know if this games on Youtube but has a couple of moments in that game where you left that game and you go. Oh Wow we really have something here. This is wonderful because I he played for Colorado. We didn't get to see him and call right and then And then there is a game when Steve Nash think he was on Phoenix. Steve Dash comes in and absolutely dust. The floor Wood Johnson billups and CIANCI's playtime starts getting yanked around starts ended up in trade rumors and then they end up dealing for Kenny Anderson. And who had a pretty big contract? That point was like forty nine fifty million and Pitino's doing his old. We didn't give up on shotsie without it was fantastic. We just wanted to get a real point guard. Kenny comes in and has a bunch of personal problems and the trades a disaster and somehow it was one of the three worst moves petite obeyed. But out if you have a young team why not keep the rookie point guard? That's it I want to ask. You was that game. The first game of the Rick. Pitino era where they go and beat the Bulls was that the highlight of the rick. Pitino era it might've been was at the huddle at the the most the best win of his entire tenure. Why remember deffers share was better than I think? People remember because they had a really team. There's a lot of turnover I remember. Being concerned they they spent a lot of money on Chris Mills and Free Agency. That would he took over and then right before this season. They traded him and he hadn't even played a game as a Celtic set. They traded for like Walter McCarty John Wallace and all these guys and it was like Christie. Became obvious that Chris wasn't a fit with the style of play. And it's like you literally side the guy you didn't realize he wasn't a fit when you signed him satisfied flag but that first. Celtics team I think they ended up. They were over thirty wins. They report six forty six and the pressing actually worked. They would they would do it. And they would flip games around and teams were scared of it and there was something there. They just couldn't figure out how to channel it well because it really isn't a professional defense. You can't really play full court. Press for any now extended period But as a five minute gimmick it worked and for rewriting the story for the Celtics. They improved by fifteen or sixteen games from the previous season. It was the reason for for optimism. Yeah he could still go. Fuck US UP. So the fourth pick now. Vancouver's on the clock rough ride for Vancouver the documentary about the Vancouver Grizzlies which just be sad and have no abi parts at all. Oh needs to happen though. Really big country stevie franchise like. There's a lot of interesting stuff. Oh I can't wait the ninety nine draft when The going over the stevie franchise how he reacted to getting drafted. So I have in coober. I have then taken Keith. Van Horn hair at the fourth pick. Oh interesting yeah. I think the three guys left on the board who were definitely starters. Were Keith Van Horn. Stephen Jackson Tim Thomas and listen. There's a reason Stephen Jackson bounced around the League. Okay and there's a reason when our test was in the stands fighting people. Stephen Jackson is like I'm going to go up there and and not only to help you. I'm GONNA escalate this. Like there's a reason the spurs after the oath retitled said Yeah. We're good good luck. I have a lot of respect for Cap Jack. He really was the second best part entitled team. I would rather have the stability of Van Horn for like that seven years of insurance career. These twenty point scorer the the reason that I think it makes sense is because he was an unknown quantity not only to the teams but also to himself he had some growing up to do he was a catalyst in Golden State and a catalyst in San Antonio because he found himself out and found this. You know how to operate in situations And could you know? Take the collateral stuff that he brought to the table and minimize it and it took him a little while to figure that out. I believe the other thing is van. Horn was a better asset. Just if you're trying to trade somebody or do whatever Stephen Jackson really at no point in his career was an asset. Then Horn was in. You know he was the centerpiece of the Matombo trade and Matombo at that point. It was a year removed from being the defensive player of the year. Banharn isn't a couple of weird trades. Actually He was in that first one. I mentioned which was almost like a McDonald's all America who's who although Jimmy Jackson mantras all those guys were pretty big guys but then he was in. It was him. Todd McCullough for the Combat Matombo two thousand two. Matombo ends up going to the finals. Then he was in a fourteen trade. He was traded by the sixers to the Knicks. The Atlanta Hawks received Glenn Big Dog Robinson at a second round pick. Minnesota Traded Terrell Brandon to the Atlanta Hawks Minnesota Trademark Jackson to the sixers. The Knicks traded the trough sprewell to Minnesota and philly traded randy holcomb in two thousand seven. First round. Pick to the Atlanta Hawks It turned out it was ladder protected. They received cash instead so Atlanta. Didn't really get that much but I sprewell was the centerpiece of that. What a weird trade. Though it's a it's a weird trade they don't do fourteen trades anymore because now they would leak out immediately as they were discussing. It can never happen right rated. Yeah I mean it. It feels a possible. The underrated big winner big dog getting down to Atlanta while Maui yeah the. The the goal club was still in in full effect. Gocha God at that point. He ended it so then in two thousand Ford another three Teamer van Horn gets traded to the bucks. The Hawks Trade Nausea Bahamas to the next. This is when as as like. I'll take any bad salary. Block trades drove principal at Atlanta. A Milwaukee Traits Tim Thomas to the next because again as as like I'll take any bad salary have and the Knicks Trade Michael Dolan in a second round. Pick to the hawks that happened and then in two thousand five trade deadline February. It's Keith Van Horn to Dallas for Calvin booth and Alan Henderson to expiring contracts and ends up piece on those two dirt teams including the thirteen. That ends up going to the finals. But then if you remember she does retire. He's like just this fake cap. Figure that you can kind of throw trades member that whole thing. So he's traded one more time in the Jason Kidd trade they trade him with dishonor Diop Devin Harris Two thousand eight first round Pick Ryan which became Ryan Anderson in two thousand ten first round. Pick FOR KID and Anton. Right mcallen but this is an award. Six trades this. This is really the heyday of the trade machine. I mean this is when you know the the creativity and the multi teams and so forth. I have a question for you related Keith. Van Horn though do you. Do you have in front of you? How much money he made do you know how much money he made? Don't look it up. I want to ask you if you don't have it in front of you because I know what what the number is I looked at. Oh I I would say he made probably like one hundred fifty million. Oh no no no but much less than that here. He ended up with only around ninety million eighty nine millions. What I guess. 'cause he only had one big contract. Yeah I think that's right. Oh Yeah Yes oh his new contract. Oh one nine million jumps to eleven twelve thirteen fourteen fifteen dollars back in the day when you would sign these seven year deals. That's why I never saw. Jalen rose Every is a car in the entire time. I've known him because he's like a one hundred billion dollar deal with Indiana. He decides car service. He's Car Service. Rich ahead of time. All right so I have been hard for. Who Do you have? Denver's on the clock with the fifth. Pick who do you have so I I take Stephen Jackson because I have the benefit of you know. Knowing what his career consists of and the contributions he could make two teams. I have no idea how he would fit in with the the personnel on that Denver team At at that juncture my suspicion is is poorly my happy that it wouldn't be a great fit but you know based on on career achievement I would it would be worth the spin on Captain Jack. There Denver took Tony. Between Rape La France and back to backdraughts. They took posey ninety. Nine Mamadou New die. Two Thousand Tisch pavilion. Oh two and then finally Carmelo in two thousand three but yeah that was a rough stretch for Denver picks. I think Captain Jack Fit right in. There's there's Where did he ended up going draft? He whizzy second over already. Second to he went to. Butler Community Butler County Community College. Yes so that must have been like deep deep deep major. Uko All right so you have him at fifth. I agree with that. That's where I had him as well and then for number six Boston. This is the last decent star on the board. Tim Thomas so tim. Thomas is one of those people that I just have a violent reaction to because when You know when I've clippers season tickets during the really dark times. They had that two thousand six playoff run. He pays dunleavy even though the players. Hey dunleavy the things start determine but the other thing he did was he gave Tim. Thomas like six billion six million a year for five years or something right Tim. Thomas Look this basketball sports. I don't WanNA get too personal. It was despicable. I just I was outrage in the stands. I I remember writing about this time. I went to game where it seemed like. He was determined not to cross either three point line. And he's just like he made a bet with a buddy. Could I play this whole game without ever crossing the three point line but what was frustrating about him and he played for a long time he played until two ten? And he bounced around. He was on a ladder different teams but was frustrated about him. Was You know ally? He's like a poor man's version of how we felt about Rasheed Wallace or somebody like that where there was real talent here. This is a six ten guy who could pass a Gerbil a high level. Who could shoot? Three's who could post people up and you'd watch him and you just feel like there's more there somebody's GonNa amok this and nobody ever did. Nobody ever did if there is a team most frustrating all sort. There's a you know your top five all time most frustrating I. I don't know if he tab cracks the top five but you know he's around the hoop was so that two thousand one wacky team. That David starring prevented from going to the Finals when he rigged the conference finals for Philly. He's the six-man that Milwaukee team and had some really good moments and in Oh three the next year they lose in round one but he was eighteen point game in the playoffs that year From three point standpoint his last two bucks seasons forty three percent from three fifty seven percent from three when he was on Phoenix in two thousand six which was the other great run had where Amar is out for the year. Everyone's I go right off. The Sun's Nashes like no. You're not writing us off. Actually it's Nash. Shawn Marion Boris. Diaw Raja Bell Leandro Barbosa and Tim Thomas. Six of them and Tim. Thomas was really good on that son's team. Unfortunately he was too good because the clippers are lack yet tim. Thomas gave thirty million and then that was it for Tim. Thomas but remember he was good on the sun stamps. Oh No that that. Two Thousand and six playoff run. You Know He. He played an important role in made an important contribution to that team and he was like a legit five to guy like he he he if he gave a shit could could really flourish in the current iteration The current version of the league. Well now we're dropping dropping a level unfortunately perspective as it is. We're done for starters. We have We've fallen off a cliff. So I have Tim Thomas. Going to Boston six now New Jersey's on the clock at number seven and were assuming that that stupid trade that Philly Ended up doing with them doesn't happen so who do you have with? New Jersey at number seven Eight wait to see who you pick. 'cause I had somebody that surprise me? It's ugly I'll show you have all that before you do it. Should we give the listeners impossibilities? Sure sure that that. That's reasonable In Tonio Daniels Derek Anderson Austin crocheter. Tony Petit Danny Fortson. I'll give everybody those five names You didn't go off the board. The Board Orion. Let's hear it. I'm putting in Bobby Jackson. Okay Bobby Jackson actually One of the best six men in the League for a sustained stretch. Yeah I a genuine chemistry guy. A real guy that you could count on to take a second unit and get them collectively to play You know at a higher level than they might have he won the NBA. Six Man of the year award in two thousand and three and you know he made a first team all rookie. Oh no I'm sorry That was mercer. Bobby Bobby was not a first team all rookie. That's all right. But Bobby you know I have nothing but positive thoughts when I think about Bobby Jackson's impact on the League and the contribution he made to the teams he was on. That's funny I thought about putting him higher than I did and then I. I was Tryin to you. Know do the whole thing where it's like. I. I'm probably overvaluing this person. I want to be fair and accurate. I think that's a great pick house. Oh this you his Sacramento years. So he said Sacramento five and they're really relevant for at least the first four of those years playing twenty three minutes a game thirty seven percent from three eleven points a game. Not Not terrible is your third guard and then get to the playoffs Especially in Oth three when They played twelve games. He's fourteen a game that year for them and Thirty five percent from three. Just what are those guys? Yeah a guy a guy that You know and so if he's your Third Guard in a playoff series. It's not the worst thing that ever happened. Yes so that team as we've discussed many times including the unreleased Chris Webber Book Basketball Podcast. That we haven't released yet that team needed some particular fortitude and he was one of the few people that actually Actually had it so nine co-signed For my eighth pack. I'M GONNA go. Which WOULD BE GOLDEN STATE? I'M GONNA Break Indiana's hard I'm GonNa take us to Crocheter. Oh and here's the case for it. Now he he was. Mostly you know mostly a journeyman guy like a nine tenth guy. I think if you're talking about what does somebody look If we were playing basketball little more smartly he could he could have been a really nice stretch for for the right team but the thing that really stood out as I looked at him compared to all the other guys he was Kinda valuable in in two thousand and two thousand one for the Pacers like we watched him play in playoff games Especially that Pacers team which came damn close to beat in the two thousand Lakers and he was like the six or seven best guy in that team he could play. They could run place for him. He averaged almost ten points game. It's forty percent from three probably should take it more threes but I don't know I just enjoyed his game. So if the best I can do is the eighth or ninth man at this point. I'd rather have him than Derek Anderson or Tony. Not People that okay. I mean that that. That's legit. I don't have any arguments. The only the only argument is I've watched him in a playoff series. Actually means something as a top seven guy whereas the other guys I could not say that so You at your nights with Toronto. I am going to take now. We're in that Derek Anderson. Tony not yet. Danny Fortson territory. I'm going to do something slightly again off the books and and go with Brevin Knight at this slot mainly because now eight. Oh Very underrated career. He was in the top ten for assists. Four Times Early in his his career but the main thing about Him is is a maturity this the Stanford Guy the the basketball. I Q a much longer career than you would have expected considering kind of his size twelve years in the league. And that's you know because you want to put the keys in the hand of a guy who knows how to drive the car. His his his biggest the only knock against him as he played on terrible teams he played on. Awful basketball teams. So you never really got to see him in under in competitive circumstances. But that's that's who I would enrolled with Little Brevin Knight Action. I just never felt like he could shoot okay and he was one of those guys that you really wanted it to happen for him. You know he just seemed like a good guy. Seemed like a great teammate Pesky on defense all that stuff out of everyone in this class he led the lead. The class of ninety seven assists six point one a game but forty to forty one percent shooter. Yeah thirteen point four percent for the three point line teams lay off like five year year. It's true it's true. Said sailing reasoning taken him so I think for the Tenth Pick. You Know Dare Gainer Sand. Who got signed a big contract and then nobody? I remember who is a Portland? Made the big running him. They stole him from San Antonio and he never turned inside. Think what everybody thought he was going to be an San Antonio two thousand one which was a tough year because Duncan got hurt that year and I think he could have gone toe to toe with the Lakers. And at least maybe taking a playoff game. They almost went undefeated. The playoffs dear gain was huge for them that year he was fifteen and a half points a game forty percent from three and it all led to him get in this giant contract from Portland to basically give them stability at the shooting guard and he just didn't live up to it and I'm looking at what is with numbers. Were yes so it jumped to his AAC at two point. Two in two thousand one at jumped six point five and two thousand to even in two thousand seven is making nine point seven million so it one of those like long contracts. He just wasn't worth it some. Hold that against him a little bit. That was why I didn't take them at eighth. But you know he. He was he was pretty good. There is that he's also one of those guys. It was like bouncing around for a reason. Yeah CLEVELAND TWO YEARS IN CLEVELAND goes through Cooper's for a year goes to San Antonio for a year ends up in Portland then plays for Houston. Miami and Charlotte is an weird eighteen. Somethings probably wrong. Yeah so anyway. He's by ten th pick and congratulations to Walkie for that would who do you have at number eleven sacramento? We got five picks left. I'm going to do Antonio Daniels here. I think you know looking back good. Good solid point guard contributor Thirteen seasons in the league. Forty four percent Shooter and you know a capable at this stage now that now that we're you know past ten you want guys that are going to make you be reliable. Contributors Ten you know eleven to twenty is is is a combination of know you and Darryl talked about this before it's like starting to be really fifteen is really when the crap shoot. Starts you know but in this case it was. It was after the top six. We realized that at the time right. But you know I think Steady solid trustworthy contributor is valuable. You know I'm already regretting our redraft. I kinda wish I take him at eight. Because here's the thing by the same token that I said with crocheter like we saw him succeed. I should take an inmate mate because He had to in two thousand three on the Spurs. They won the upstart two thousand and two. They didn't win the title that year but they played two rounds and he was like third guard for them but the the year that he was actually pretty good was that Oh five Seattle team that we loved. Oh Yeah that was a ray allen like way ahead of his time season early. Rashard Lewis There was some Danny Fortson Jerome James Rebounding Combo Daniels. That team was a little ahead of its time. Daniels was the boss to Mike. He was legit and the the floor leader. They won fifty two games at year there. Oh lucrative arrows on that Dude Reggie Evans Radford manage. That was the funniest thing about that team other than that it was. The last great sonic's team was that they got a bunch of guys paid Radanovich Jerome James Hilarious thirty billion dollar contracts like that so I think he got good value there. They told him they limit. Thank you I'm GonNa take speaking of good by the Batman. Tony Petit. Yeah at number twelve. I have him go into Indiana now. We had him with the Celtics. They traded for him a like within two years after this draft and I gotta say in In the two thousand and two year when we made the playoff run when they astonishingly came within a couple breaks may be making the finals with Paul Pierce Anthony Walker and a bunch of rogue is the Batman was twenty seven point seven minutes a game during the playoff run. He's basically six and eight. He could eat blocked two shots a game. Yeah he could run. The floor is always frustrating. It always felt like there was more. They're dumb but you know the greatest thing he ever did for. The Celtics was no the night. Paul Pierce got stabbed. He was with the Batman. Tony Petit Tony. Petit basically carried him. Two blocks to the hospital saved his life. Wow which ended up Not always saving Paul Pierce his life with the best thing about that but also you know kept his basketball career alive and led to all the other good things. He had with Celtics but the Batman Saved Tony. Save Paul Pierce his life. Wow so there you go. Not An add value for number twelve is a lifesaver generally an actual real life lifesaver. Who Do you have? We have three picks number thirteen. Cleveland not a lifesaver. Not Somebody that anybody who ever suspect was going to be in a position now at all like I don't know personally but the way his career played out and reputational Danny Fortson Cincinnati Grad in. Cleveland writes this a little bit of that Ohio Flavor. A little bit of that hometown. Kind of vibe tough guy I think in some respects like kind of underrated. He averaged in one season over sixteen rebounds like a real banger when he was inclined to go ahead and Bang a little bit which was not always the case so he plays for ten seasons only makes the playoffs once. We had him in Boston in the one thousand nine hundred ninety thousand season which was a profoundly profoundly unhappy season. Pitino's last full season and Pitino was only playing with sixty minutes a game. He he averaged six point seven rebounds at fifteen point six minutes every time. They put him out there. He got every rebound and I would go to the Games whether I was with my dad or with somebody else. And they'll put the any force in in and the team would play well and he would get every rebound and then Patino take them out and Danny looked at Key Punch. Patino in the face. Which maybe he did. It never came out. But they got him in an unbelievable trade they. This is actually a good Patino trade. They traded Popeye Jones. Ron Mercer and Dwayne Shitsus to Denver in August ninety nine four Fortson Eric Washington Eric Williams and a two thousand one first round pick. Now here's the catch. Two thousand one first round pick. They had the chance to roll it over was Li- it was like this protected. Pick that they could either grab a rollover and then the protections kept lessening. Okay they grab it in two thousand one during the draft when they have the tenth in the twenty first pick and they decide. We're also GOING TO TAKE THIS DENVER. Pick two and now have three first round picks. They could've rolled it over and an oath three. It would have been the Carmelo pick and this is a big thing back in the Time Boston. Like why are they taking this pick now? Yes is the eleventh pick like. Roll that thing over. Denver SOCKS DENVER's terrible every year. This could be a top five. Pick Chris Wallace your friend Yes wait. It gets worse. Who Do we take key Jerk Brown? Oh I thought it was going to be Joe Forte. No that was later. My old one of my all time favorite Chris Wallace moments so instead of Two years later Carmelo so do a forts and he did. Average twelve rebounds a game one year. Yeah average rebounds in two thousand one and then He he kind of has a nice little renaissance near the end. There was Seattle when it's him. And Reggie Evans just wreaking havoc. It was doubt I really love that team. I would watch it out to be probably be the only one other than you and everyone from Seattle. Who would watch the documentary and the O Five Sonics but But yeah he he was in there too. He didn't play that much in the playoffs. But that was kind of the last run for him. Okay we have to pick left. We have the clippers on the clock at number fourteen. And I think this means from. I'm doing this correctly. Yeah I gotTa do it Ron Mercer Okay. Sure so again. I was there for those first couple. Ron Mercer years. Yeah and his second season the ninety nine the lockout season he averaged seventeen points a game. You couldn't shoot threes but didn't really get to the free throw line either. He's the Guy. Now that advanced metrics would pick apart. Didn't really rebound didn't really get assists But the thing he could do back then which we valued for whatever reason were these seventeen eighteen footers and I probably have a calm in my old website archives of comparing him to Reggie Lewis because I was there for the first couple of Reggie Lewis Years on Mercer very similar type of game did not shoot. Three's athletic could get like a seventeen footer. When he wanted to an end up trading in Denver and then he just starts bouncing around he goes Denver. Orlando Chicago Indiana San Antonio and the nets and it just never happens and I think the biggest reason never happened probably was that he He couldn't shoot threes but he only had plays eleven playoff games it as entire career. So that's it You had the last pick fifteen I don't I don't love this. Were looking at guys like Anthony Parker and Anthony Johnson to Anthony's Alvin Williams Bo Taylor Scot Pollard. Who I don't think is actually crazy at this position. Damon Jones Kelvin Canada's Burmese snake. It really drops off where a lot of trouble here after fourteen banks. I mean I just looking back at Mark. Blunt run there for a year. This was this is probably the right spot for BREVIN KNIGHT EXCEPT FOR I. I chose Brevin nights maturity earlier with with Toronto Damon Jones. May maybe some Damon Jones. He I actually no. I'm I'M GONNA go with one of the Anthonys I'm GonNa go with Anthony Parker who just by. I don't know I mean it's Anthony. Parker Anthony. John. How about this? Let's just end the draft. After fourteen picks a lottery. We just made it through the lottery. Fifteen over anyway. Yeah fifteen relevant. None of those guys care or another. Those guys mattered. Yes Ui Scott Part. We had mark Jackson remember. He had a nice little fantasy. Run there when season and then was never heard from again. The rodrick Rhodes who is like one of those guys. He tremendous upside potential. He was Yeah he was a first round pick never happen for him. Yup We had. Oh no he was sick round pick. He was thirty third pick. And then I'm China everybody else. This is a bad draft surged. Victor Search wicker with forty eight. Yeah Anthony Johnson at a couple runs the ninety seven draft house not great not great Fu. Rick Pitino Fuck you Rick Pitino funky right in the eye boss you lied. You said Chauncey Ron Mercer where you're backer next ten years and after fifty one games they weren't and you were never honest to anybody root for the Celtics and you shouldn't have taken the job after we did win the lottery Bowie where we talked about. Antonio Daniels. You'd never mentioned his two year wizards run there. I loved it I lo- I absolutely adored. Has Time he was. He was genuine leader. He played an important mentorship role with John Wall And I think was helpful. You know with with the to the extent John Wall you can contain John Wall. I think he made a good impression on on professionalism and the like year returning for the ninety nine redraft yes we. Ti has stay safe. Don't touch anybody I'M GONNA. Are you getting takeout? I'm it's it's a mix. We're cooking a lot of bacon in my house. We're in have been a heavy bacon rotation right now we did take out. The last couple of nights takeouts fine. I support our local restaurants. And that's that's what my feeling was. We have restaurants near me that I don't want to go to business so when you can. You can disinfect the packaging and and so far. There's no indication that the foods tainted nobody's talked about delivered food giving them at a problem so support. Your local restaurants hundred percent agree jailhouse. It was a pleasure as always talk to your body all right. 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Mason and Ireland (Hr 2)

"All right. Mason ireland. Ben Lyons is information. Happy new year. Man. I haven't seen you in twenty nine thousand nine. Yeah. That's true. That's true. But the hang out a lot. We played a lot of golf us here. Yeah. I think our goal should be to expand the amount of rounds. We played last year in twenty dollars. No, I'm trying to expand my house looking to how well if you play against me, you'll win money. So you can help fund date. All right. So you watch a ton of hoop who wins by mythical one on one to net. Keep in mind. Everyone. You got kind of kind of suspend belief here. Everybody says, yes. The whole happening in our conversation here. This is happening. Yes. We know. And actually never happened because these guys have egos that are saying, but this is happening really ten minutes part of all star week and probably be a lot more fun. Like, if you've got a sponsor how about this. You get a sponsor to say, I'll give a million dollars to the charity of your choice. And then you take all twenty four all stars. And put them in a one on one John you're around the modern NBA as much as anyone there's a better chance of them doing that and fortnight than there is in actual one on one basketball, but this is happening for our conversation. Well in order to all the players to play were stock the crowd with Instagram models, only, I think you you have to factor in a few things endurance means a lot. These guys will be going at each other for a good amount of time affect Denzel Washington in his one on one game shadows, he got those first two points, which apparently was not scripted that way originally around close. Skunk them. Yeah. And Denzel just didn't spike left it in the movie. So he he got those two off on them. But we're just watching, you know, a few years back at a Taj Mahal our president of the United States hosted a one on one tournament where the headlining act was doctor Jay verse Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, and they were both retired at the time. But you can see that they're very fatigue. So I think having endurance is a key factor. Today's NBA about length. So I look at guys like Durant and Jaanus is probably the favorites. But after seeing harden and to see how shifty he is. I think Hardin would probably win in today's NBA because he's the combination of handles shifting and size and strength. He doesn't get enough credit for how strong he is. When he goes to the basket. I don't think if it's winters outs. That's what we're proposing. I don't think anybody could check kyri. I think Kyrie's got his jumper going. He can finish at the rim with either hand. And the problem would be a bigger guy could just post length and bigger guy could blah. Lock them. I just saw kareem's. Jay, we're maybe like a game of pool. Once you give kyri the pool cue. You may never get go on to run for sure. But I would take Janice or Durant because of their length on defense and to challenge him to shoot if you're gonna she's not as not as knockdown shooter as harden or Durant or claims, she's putting in joy and beat Nah, I would fatigue fatigue awfully he's so young for the abbey. So broken. I think he'd be. He is a guy that can do everything as well. Right. He gets he's blocked shots. He can hitch job. He's not faster way that Yana says. And he's not in shape the way that LeBron is or or K D, I think they'd outgun arresting a little bit. But yeah. Michael just texted me Durant, easy. Yeah. He might have a point 'cause Durant seven feet tall. He can shoot threes. And also watching hard and try to guard Durant last night was kind of funny at times. And I think Durant does a good job guarding smaller player we under estimating Steph in the scenario. Steph could just back up and shoot forty footers. He is the best combination of dribble, Pash shoot. In the history of the league. No one has been better at all three things at the same time right dribble past shoot than Steph problem is in this tournament passing goes out the window. So does that make LeBron less of a favorite or do you just favorite Brian because he's a tank, and nobody could stop them. There's that again. That's why asked about the dribble limit. If he gets a full head of steam. I think it's really hard to stop them. But I like to rent, and I like harder. And I think in in this silly John Ireland game where would it take place on the beach outdoors, the Rucker, drew? I think you do it all star Saturday night take a long time, eight hours, right? But what I think you do. She just played at ten by ones and you do ones and twos. And right. And you do it you tell everybody at all star weekend show up at ten in the morning, and we'll be out of this thing by one. But Lou, Lou Williams, coups, MMA, Beasley, irrational confidence, guys Dion waiters. I got guys like that. God let me tell me if I'm national conference county from Fisher. Okay. Jamal crawford. Oh, yeah. Jamal crawford. Absolutely Jamaa Seattle pro-am Jamal Crawford for sure real Hooper's. You know, guys, you could just hold core. When we did it a camp he'd be like one hundred kids and everyone got number and if you wanna game one basket make you take it you just shout it out your number thirty six. Thirty six little jab step hitter. Eighteen footer thirty six and you'd write them down. Whoever got the most wins in an hour. One the turning, you know when they do that sixty four player golf tournament where you play matchplay. There's always some guy that you don't see Toby. Donovan Mitchell would get you know, get all the way through we're at a transition point in the league. We're if you look at LeBron the banana boat crew. Yeah. Mellow never seen on the vote might have gotten photo credit, but never seen on the bone mel's out of the league. Chris Paul's hurt and Dwayne Wade's on his last dance. Those guys that generation the oath three oh five oh, seven those guys are starting to say goodbye. And really we're watching Ben Simmons and Donovan Mitchell and Jaanus and this next generation of stars define the narrative of the league. I think that's what last night was about two was hard and really getting a seat at the table in the all time great conversation that was sort of tie all the tweets as he last night east two guys could hold their own in that tournament. All right. The first one is Luca Dante step back is crazy. I don't get hit Paul George the smitty the other night. He didn't with that little old, man shave. Yeah. Yeah. I think Lucas he might be able to win. You ain't now about. This one. I think this guy's the fastest guy with the ball. I've seen this year. The area Sacramento. These so much fun to watch. I don't know if his jump shots get enough in something like this. Can he get Janas to back off them and give them space shoot over the top? I don't know. I think it's tougher for the little guys, but he again walking into his own there in the playoff hunt for the first time, it's a transition in the league for sure. And the bronze guys is it's coach was in his draft class. Like all the guys LeBron had his battles against the years. Paul Pierce and Coby and these guys are all done Lillard. Yeah. I love you know, I'm trying to get that Knicks. Twenty twenty Dame thing going be nice wouldn't little Dita's connection with porzingas. He wants to be a rapper New York. What about world George right with how he's been playing recently? Well, the expensively George Greer of twenty two. I put Paul George in the same category. I put calliing they're both great two way players. I'm not. So sure they're great one on one class footwork, though is so killer. He was just he's so compact so little wasted energy. And emotion. I just think Paul George it'd be lazy and Trump against the Lakers though. I mean, he was hit that slow move to the basket that he's able to get past anybody who's playing on. I mean, LeBron would have guarded him. Had he got hot like that. And LeBron just was he's also hitting step bags. He was his trying to win me that I know Michael Thompsons, listen, he's not going to get out of that cave. Is bet with me here at the golf Jada. Yes, I gave him a bottle of Kanus that courtesy of the Lakers for Christmas. Christian our nutritionist got wine for everybody for Christmas. And then nobody nobody was on the Christmas flight because spectrum didn't do the game. I want to talk to you about the LeBron wine thing him coming into the night. You know, which sets with her on fire, and everyone thought it was like the thing that here's the thing. Lebron walked in drinking a glass of wine in a game in which he knew when he woke up that he could not plan. What's wrong with that those wrong with it? I'm just wondering why we're not seeing Jose Calderon walking was saying can you walk into the game drapes. Whatever you want playing Nassir Chantelle pike can present his come in drinking so lot VN potato vodka tonight. Yes. Really because he's not always zingers can come in with a forty ounce. It would be the equivalent of. I'll be pretty sweet, no, it would be the equivalent of to me you are at a party and you're not driving. What's wrong with having a drink people been people forget, and I'm glad this conversation came up people forget the NBA as a whole. Okay. It's an entertainment product. If you're not you can't question. Lebron's. Nece or whether or not is heart's in it. Gene, Kyle who's Milwaukee. And if he doesn't play tonight with a pinochle outta dizzy, no, he's playing tonight. Ends up. Rondos out playing right? Yeah. He's gonna ask on its hands. Right. You got a cast in his hand. Can you walk in with the pinochle auto coming with an open bottle of Jack Daniels as far as I'm concerned. Why what difference does it make? I guess not really Rondo with an open bottle of Jack. I'm here for the game guys Kate so bit sitting sitting right mix to Rondo tonight. We'll be courtside season ticket holder with a full glass of wine in section one zero three row. Eleven eleven. We'll be guy dressed head to toe. A Knicks care, of course, you're bringing a Laker fan with you tonight. Right. I for some reason I decided to bring the power forward from a high school basketball team whose confirmation name is Patrick because he named it. After the great saints, Patrick Ewing. And again, Lakers. Knicks tonight. You can hear it on ESPN. I do not sell night. I do not see for net tonight. Yeah. He's been playing good even the three. So if he were playing if he ran out with a sprained ankle you come in with MARTINI. Do you know what we're talking about? Luke cornet the the center for the Knicks. Do you know what he majored in in college? I was doing homework for the Knicks last night. He went to Vanderbilt, okay? At UCLA. This was hands down the hardest. Major and nothing else was close. He was a computer science and math major advantage. There was a class at UCLA called CS twenty that brought everyone I knew to their news. Like, if you I was so glad I didn't have to take it. I class in college called the history of oceans, and I thought we'd learned about really cool, monsters and dinosaurs and things, and it was all mathematical equations about that earth and how gravitational poll and once the numbers came out. Then I was out. This will not surprise you in any way, shape or. Or form? I was an expert in finding courses that let's say weren't so difficult when I was at UCLA art history history. I took I took physiology of music it was a pass fail class. What muscles do you use? I have you beat in this category because my clothes history. One thirty two A. I rose three of prostitution come on. What are you got for me? I wrote a term paper about Pok Mon and my five year old cousin at the time was one of my main sources that I quoted and got an eight minus in the history of Japanese animation. This was at Michigan or Michigan. Go blue. I took a history of eighty sitcoms. All I would I hit you wouldn't even I wouldn't even have to study Miami vice class those goods would not even have to study for that class. Carlos boozer took history of ACC basketball when he was at Duke, it's pretty good. I love boozer. Visu? You ever hear that you ever heard the story about prints? Well, that's the great. That's one of the great stories of all time if you graveyard that story, but when Carlos boozer rented. Since his house. No, we'll tell it's the greatest that was in Beverly Hills. Right. It's really good. Okay. So we'll tell that. And also, Ben I'm going to see if I can sell you on my crazy idea for UCLA basketball coach that no one else likes except me. But I'll throw it at you next. First of all, I got to talk about my friend Isaac at MIR audio-video bang and all of sin in Westwood huge announcement for the new year for more than twenty years. I've been telling you about Isaac and MIR audio-video now I can officially announce it for the fifth year in a row, the Lakers partner with MIR to be the presenting sponsor of the twenty eighth annual celebrity golf, invitational and dinner. Now, I am see this dinner, and what happens is mere rolls out there, and they set up in one of the side rooms Riviera they basically set up a showroom with all the big screens all the video game consoles that alone is your reason for getting to play in the lake eventually, you're gonna see Josh Hart. Planned fortnight is on some giant TV for mere exactly. And what makes this really special is that they raise money for the Laker Youth Foundation. Last year, they raised more than four hundred and fifty thousand dollars the most ever the Lakers strive for excellence on and off the court. So when it comes time for them to select their audio video partner, the choices clear it's mere audio video and after twenty years of working with Isaac, and ROY and the amazing people at MIR. I couldn't be any more confident in recommend recommending them to you and your family. I have every TV in my house. I bought for mayor every single one. I got a big house mirror. Audio video the official audio and video retailer of the Los Angeles Lakers. Ben Lyons information, I'm John Ireland ESPN LA. All right. Mason Ireland show. Hey, just tweet you we're gonna Golden Globes this Sunday. Yeah. People who've never been in. I'd do the show before I'm jealous have bins other job. Which is basically he's a really good host. You chose. I've told you this before you have the I couldn't do it. Mason would. To schmaltzy base. You have you have the like Mason would funnel over these idiots. You have the perfect amount of your your respectful, but you don't let them like you goof around with them. You don't take take you see it's a really tough land. They get in areas. It's a tough real tough needle to threaten the broadcaster the energy that you feel that day of or Globes or even more so than endure into different way than the Oscars. Oscars are the granddaddy of them. All right. But the glows because all the TV people are there, and it's the first kind of big one of the season real challenge. I'm kind of mentally slowing down a little bit. So I can ramp it up on Sunday because it's so high octane, it's fun. So I'm wondering remember what show was last year. But it was on NBC, and they just used all their morning show people and they fund all over these celebrities and never asked him anything like, oh, you're so. Beautiful shut up just getting there. So if it's not sixty minutes sit down it's not the nice for necessarily really, but you can hard hiding one thing. I like what you took a time. And it's such a crazy experience. I'm excited. Right. Well, like one thing I always like that. You do is when you'll say like, hey, you probably been watching this thing on TV for years who's the coolest person you've met like who they tell him because that's what's funny about the Globes. Is that? Yeah. It's like an interview with Julia Roberts in mind shroud and Aaron Rodgers at the same party. Yeah. That got telling you the bronze going to be at some party on Sunday. And I don't know if that gets Laker fans upset or not if that he's injured and not playing games, but he'll probably be at HBO doing the thing. And it's Hollywood's kind of big night out on the town. So everybody was making TV shows or movies is kind of at the events or go through while. I'm exhausted even thinking, okay? So speaking of award shows. Something weird aired? It's not it's going to air in Los Angeles in the three o'clock hour today, but it's already leaked. So we've got a part of it you remember that last month it came out. It was announced that Kevin Hart was going to host the Oscars. And then and this happens letting sports it happened with Josh Allen the quarterback of the bills and that Josh hater the reliever for Milwaukee. Somebody went back through his old tweets through Kevin Hart's old tweets and found that he had written some stuff that was. LGBTQ didn't like it. He was I it it bordered. I'm trying to remember exactly what he wrote. I probably couldn't say even if I did. But it was it was anti-gay and it didn't come across. Well, and as as, you know, Ben, many people in the gay community consider that to be there SuperBowl the Oscars to be the gay Super Bowl. So Kevin Hart was basically told apologize or you're out and at first he refused to apologize. Then he heard from a lot of his friends in the industry, and he goes, look, I I was a different guy ten years ago. I do apologize. If I fended everybody. But man, I'm moved on. I'm not that guy anymore will today. He doesn't interview with Alain that's going to air later today in Los Angeles. And here's part of it. He basically says the Oscars have asked him if he would reconsider and come back and host as soon as he refused to apologize. The they broke up the Oscars have said. If you give us a do over. We'd actually have you back. Here's Kevin Hart. Talk into Ellen is a flip side. Okay. The the flip side is to to any attack. You know, there's there's just another. There's another side. There's a there's an visit side. There's always an aside as a b side all my side openly openly. I say I'm wrong for my passwords. I say I said it I understand that. I know that my kids know when they're dead messes up I'm in front of it because I want to be an example. So they know what to do. In this case, it's tough for me because it was an attack. This wasn't an accident. This wasn't a coincidence. It wasn't a coincidence that the day after I received the job that tweets just somehow manifested from two thousand eight now, I don't know who follows me who doesn't I'm on social media every day. I got over forty thousand tweets to go through forty thousand tweets to give back to two thousand eight that's an attack. That's a malicious attack on my character. That's an attacked to end me. All right in. I think a lot of athletes. This comes up in sports all the time. Ben that these guys like Josh Allen was in high school. Josh hater was in high school when they went back found old tweets. So let me just react to what Kevin Hart said. And would you as somebody who who dabbles in the entertainment field? Would you be in favor of him hosting the Oscar I as you know, host the official livestream for the Oscars. I worked for Oscar dot com. ABC dotcom. Covering the Academy Awards for the academy. So I know the ins and outs of of the Oscars. Well, I would love to see Kevin Hart host the Academy Awards. And I think he's on to something in the conversation in nine thousand nine around media and accountability. And when you have to apologize. How you apologize how we forgive? It's a two way street how audiences hold grudges against certain people who are accused of things while don't hold grudges or allow or root for other players who have done certain are. You know, what who we choose to stand behind or throw stones at has become an individual conversation. We all have to ask with ourselves right of you know, if there are some people I remember watching the. The Kobe stuff with Mariah. And her looking saying, why are they doing this positive? What do you mean? He's retiring his jersey numbers one of the all time. Great. She goes. Well, what happened was his whole case in Colorado. Right. Why are we for her? That means he shouldn't do that necessarily. But other people there's forgiveness accountability. There's all types of feelings that go into. So I appreciate Kevin Hart having a conversation reconsidering in a very Gotcha. You set it. So now, you can't go back on it. So in the moment he felt attacked he panicked. He bailed. And now we can all have a little discourse in a little nuance Naveh conversation here. And I think when you come to find is that if you own your mistakes, if you're genuine then and you have grown, and if those people choose to accept you or not that's that's a choice. They have to make. I'm not I I'm not stupid. I know that there are consequences to your actions. And I know that I said yesterday, I was meeting Trudell that, you know, people forget that that social media is a public record. If you put stuff out there. It's in pretty hub like. Social media Republic. Even if it's private and it comes to the light in some way. What I was going to say is that even though people make mistakes on social media. It's hard for. I I'm kinda with heart. What he was saying that happened in two thousand eight he should have the the chance to explain that. He's not the guy he was in two thousand eight but also shows the crab in the bucket mentality that a lot of people have is at soon as someone has success in whatever it is. They're they're doing there's going to be people. There are going to be people out there who tried to then take away from that success for whatever reason. Right. Whether they're right in doing so are wrong in doing. So that is a is a mentality. And we are in social I just tweeted out. Hey excited to host the Golden Globes on promoting my coverage of the Golden Globes. This could be an opportunity for somebody to then use this to go and attack me as because I'm having some personal success. Right. And I think we are conditioned to do that. Now. Yeah. And that's unfortunate. And I love that Kevin can own his mistakes, and a lot of people a lot of people don't come back from their failures a lot of people wither away or they don't face their failures and don't own their mistakes. And I think that's part of especially Hollywood that the face of Disney, Robert Downey junior could have had gun charge in heroin things and just crazy stuff. So I think owning your mistakes and growing from them you should be supported in doing that. And it's hard for society for whatever reason for us to do that. Yeah. And it depends on the degree what your mistakes are, particularly if you play this to a sports context, you know, I think that if a guy had tweets when he was in high school that are bad. I'm not going to say you can never play for my team. Now, she's someone who I get a job at another another opportunity at their job. But depends what their job is. But I would think like, for example, Mason, I talk about all the time. If we did something publicly like. You know, we we never would. But like if something like what happened with Ray rice? We would be done immediately. It is fan. We'd be fired immediately. But but because Reuben foster is twenty three years old. He got picked up by the Redskins after he was charged with stuff. The charges were dropped yesterday. Should the Redskins activate them? I mean, these are all conversations we're having as a culture and society, and we're having them loud. And we're having them. I think a little too reactionary. We're having them or no room foster never play football. Again. He did this now, and I been on the record of saying if it's been proven that you have committed an act of domestic violence then. Yeah. Football should be taken away from you sports should be taken away from you. But if you have. Where they say bad tweets, not as much and this is where our. Society. I think does succeed in that there should be nuance there, and we should be able to differentiate between murder and a bad tweet. Okay. This led me right to where I wanna go. With what you should do with their head coach situation. I'll get into that next. Ben Lyons in for me there. I'll show you ESPN LA Mason in Ireland show. Ben Lyons is information and SARS taking a picture of my Starbucks Cup grand ice latte for Ennis. That was made. Today was nice. I confused Nick anchors day mix Lakers day today. Garcetti give a key to manual moody. Yeah. Don't see that happening. Now the game tonight, by the way on our air. Why win for the Lakers is not a must win losing to the Knicks. How many players do you want to take off the board for Lakers? Let's say who's been isn't play. That would mean, no coups MMA. On board for the Knicks. What are you talking about? They were within one with like three minutes ago last night in Denver Mitchell Robinson, twenty years. Frank twenty years old knocks nineteen and a bunch of teenagers and kids who can't drink. Right. But sometimes if the Lakers are going to match them young guy for you Evita's zoo bots is going to play major minutes tonight. Yes. Those Noah von lay. So you guys should be. All right. Okay. So UCLA needs a coach. And so I was texting with a friend of mine who I went to UCLA with last night. And he was frustrated he said what have Earl Watson and Fred Hoiberg done to be considered for the UCLA job. And my answer was that the only question these young kids ask these kids, you're talking about seventeen eighteen nineteen year old kids when when you go into their living room to recruit them, the first thing, they ask is can you get me to the NBA both Earl Watson, and Fred Hoiberg. Played in the NBA and were head coaches in the NBA. So they're on the list. But Ben when I suggested this five six years ago. People thought I was crazy. And then even two years ago when he got swept up in scandal. People thought I was crazy, but why wouldn't UCLA call Rick Pitino. I'm gonna raise your UCLA, John. Here's dick Vitale who is the face of college basketball tweeted this on New Year's day. Read it read it as key. Okay. I I can't get that though. Something get excited. Cited forty cactus UCLA love. Please give them. Because dead Guerrero, who eggs, spray respect you. Rick potato the big ten relevant programming to. Yes. It takes on a to get that. But he would be. Wasn't terrible. Those great shows that was your. I'm very excited about all. Right. I mean on fifteen on. Rocko going on in the dorm sign up. It's just my putting yesterday to who is very uncomfortable with this conversation, we NY Mike Trudell got on creed. You won't be because you're not as much of a straight arrow is today. The Rick Pitino is has character issues. He has off the court issues, but Ben all of his off the court character issues are related to sex everybody lies about sex. Bill Clinton was a good president that just are looking at it on a surface level. John, right. Tell me why the the situation in the Italian restaurants are cheating about sex at right? It's about the players to. Okay. It's about the kids about raising young men. It's about being educator, and that's so often forgotten college basketball and college sports, but it's why I have issues with urban Meyer. It's why I've issues Rick Pitino. Can I can't give you a counter to that? Sure. Okay. Rick Pitino whose when you have that going know, the number one guy UCLA in the dorms for the players, but this so you're seeing it you've created a culture that doesn't stand for the things that need to somehow in this. So your point ruptured and Adidas money, and all that stuff still needs to permeate on some level because you are helping to raise another person's soon, you're afraid that if you send your kid to play for Rick Pitino he'll be he'll he'll get sworn in by that culture. Rick the number one guy UCLA fans want. Okay. If you did a poll of UCLA fans and said anybody will say yes, who do you want? They all want Billy. Donovan okay, Billy Donovan, who's the head coach of the thunder. Played for Rick Pitino at providence helped Patino Donovan took province to the final four Patino was on or Donovan was on Patino staff at Kentucky. He basically taught him how to be a coach. And now, you mentor billion to a great coach just because and I'll use a Bill Clinton example, again, just because Bill Clinton is a CAD. I mean, he's you know, he's he's hitting on every woman that moves and cheating on his wife. Whatever he's doing doesn't mean. He's a bad president just because Rick Pitino has problems with sex doesn't mean he's a bad basketball coach as a matter of fact, Ben his resumes. The opposite took providence to the final four one. A title Kentucky won a title Louisville. He's probably one of the best college basketball coaches alive. But if you look at his career, he's just going now from job to job to job to job. And he's the only reason he's only had five jobs this whole lot. It's not true way. Getting some I'm talking about. He was at providence. Then he was at Kentucky. He's at Boston. He was writing Knicks. He was with Kentucky with the Celtics. He coached Puerto Rico and Louisville ranches in Greece. Well, now, he's coaching Kazan's. Morales put all the moral stuff aside. Right. I think the future of college basketball in particular is the guys like Kevin had success when they wanna tournament wanna title, right? And. Yeah. To have that young guy can sit in the living rooms and hasn't BA ties Rick Pitino in coach in the NBA eighteen years give it the question again MBA tie as modern MBA. Can you guys on on staffs and teams and no way? But the question the kids want to know is can you get me to the NBA? And that's when Rick Pitino gets done of and Mitchell on the phone, you know, that's when Rick Pitino gets guys on the phone who are in the NBA that he helped get themselves to league. Now, they don't honestly if most of these guys. Are one and done anyway. And if you're not a one and done, and you have to play for years somewhere that means that you worked your way into the NBA. What do you think of Earl Watson? I think we were Watson be a great choice. I think Urwah. No, he's never been a college head coach because he's got a young energy. He's got a young vibe. And I think that's important in college. But you have to have kind of a raw thing, you know, unless you're an institution at your university. And you've been there thirty years, and that's always ends badly. Whether it's Joe Paterno, or if it's Rick Pitino or if it's any of these kind of guys who have been around forever. Calhoun, it doesn't end well and UCLA has had on the league skies program. I want to see them build with a young cool coach who man or woman who gets it. And I'm talking about woman. Well, there's not there's not a woman leading a hip, but you know, it's interesting you bring that up because I was thinking about something. If because of the unique set of circumstances in the market that they're in so croquet, John. Yeah. But he can coach, and that's what UCLA needs somebody can turn the program around. I don't think he's gonna get it. But I'll tell you this. I've been suggesting it off and on for three or four years. I'm getting less blowback about that suggestion now than I ever have before I'm getting more and more people texting me and calling me and tweeting me saying I'd hire Patino right now in a heartbeat. They're sick allusion. They're sick of trying guys. Like Steve Alford who wasn't life is kind of like the next tier Ben Howland the Knicks here Steve Lavin than next here. They want make somebody top tier what makes somebody somebody just wanted to title. So you you don't want to empower somebody to lease that title shock, a smart. You know? Well, I live great tournament runs at small schools. You've ramping that ever wanna title went to the coaching. But he went Brad Stevens went to the change. President stevens. Right. But he went to the championship game two years in a row. I would stretch it out to not necessarily him wanna title, but having been to the final four and had success that Stevens that shock smart. And by the way, Jagai Michigan B line. You'll be honest. Great fin amazing and Tom Izzo across the state is has been great. But you say like, these old institutional coaches never end. Well, dukes gonna win the title this year and coach K's been there forever. Yeah. I don't think Rick Pitino's coach K, though, I think he's always wanted to be he has his titles, but he's not mind, John, you know, he's now, you know, if you're putting a mount Rushmore, college coaches, you know, Patino always been on the outside looking in. That's why he's been at a smaller program like Louisville. That's why he's been a shadow of Kentucky, and Calvin and tell you. For the shadow of that he's been twenty title E Kentucky. What are you talking about? Louisville v. Michigan. I get it. But these scandals aren't good, John. He's got I'd salesman aspect to them that I don't like they hired chip Kelly with a show cause penalty from Oregon. Why lipped we wrong with hiring Patino? I mean, it Pitino the Tino scandals are mostly. It's just not inspired to me if he were still at Louisville. You wouldn't be saying we gotta go poach and get that guy. You wouldn't be saying that I don't like these guys who kinda hang onto long, and I just I don't know Patino not into it. I love the euro Watson higher. If Baron Davis forever serious about doing just one thing, it'd be cool but talking Aaron would endorse. Here's the one thing. I like about Earl if Earl got the job, and I mentioned this yesterday what you're up. There are a handful of UCLA alums in the league that wouldn't pick up the phone to help Howland because they hated Kevin love. Russell westbrook. Ryan zone now. Well, I mean. But I mean, you look at the Darren collison, you even Jordan farmer when he played for the Lakers, Aaron a flow all those dudes, Kevin Love's the best, you know. Kevin love is a great guy. I mean by donated a gym to UCLA or. Now that how but Kevin love if Earl got that job. He'd be a great would be on the phone and Lonzo has already said Lonzo who's very popular with kids. Do you realize lines go to UCLA or do you just play there? I think both. But like you realize lonzo's eighth in all star voting. Hey, I'm you talk about a a popularity driven vote. I mean. The kids love him. He would pick up the phone. If Earl got the job so that that's a strong reason to consider about building community. And that's what that really helps college programs when you go to an Arizona game. And they show all the guys in the Jumbotron played in the league, and you feel part of that family and Greg because you say basketball fan, I know you wanna feel that community again Patino feels like an outsider and feels like he's using that community. I don't think he would be embraced at all. No. I don't think Patino would be the right call either. But I think he's getting it. No, I don't think so either. But to maybe this goes towards John's point a little bit UCLA kind of recruits itself when you go to UCLA you're getting your automatically getting a better shot at being a top five draft pick. If you so it doesn't matter if you go to a little school and your one and done one and done at UCLA means more than one and done at Davidson or one and done means UNC Wilmington. But it doesn't mean as much as one and done at Kentucky meal. Tom doesn't mean Lonzo was able to become a number two pick. Because he was so good at UCLA. And that so that actually means something where I also don't think that URL Watson is the right call either mostly because he hasn't done anything that warrants having the job. You don't know how you recruits, you don't know what his style of plays. You don't know anything about him. Whereas you do know where Joe shocking part young players. You know? So I think you know, that about her own he seems to be a hard worker, and he kind of stayed in the league as long as he did. With the limited skills. He has that to me says, your hardware. I'd love to talk to some of his players in Phoenix. 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Like, no. You can't do it is. I look at the reactions. I'm getting on Twitter today, and they say on mcmurtry, John, I love Ben Lyons. But he's crazy. I would hire Patino in a heartbeat. The next guy. Benny Ireland on the Patino topic John is way out of touch. Sorry. You know, it's one of those things that divides like right down the middle fans. There have always been rational humans who don't, you know, have their opinions swayed by their own personal emotion or connection to something? So it's a good source of feedback thing. So it's not listening. No because I was looking at. I was looking at this story about prints. Oh. Who's your print store? You know, this one up by the campfires. So I'm Greg. I'm surprised you've never heard this story. So he boozer in two thousand three but a mansion in Bel Air ten bedrooms eighteen thousand square feet. But before he could live in it. He playing for the jazz and he had to go to training camp. So there were at least twenty people looking to rent his new house while he's away. He says my realtor Roxanne hits me up. And she says I got a call from a bunch of people who want to rent your place. He says I haven't even lived in it. I'm still a week away from decorating. So no, I haven't lived in yet. Why would I lease it out to somebody else and the list kept getting shorter and shorter of people calling about it? It I serve at twenty people. The previous owner had been an entertainment. It was well known through a lot of parties there. So they knew the house boozer Tintin. You determine down offers twenty people became eighteen later was down to one persistent person who called and made an offer at least eight times, the unidentified person was willing to pay ninety five thousand dollars a month, which was a little over a million for the year and. That was an offer. No that that's insane. That was an offer boozer refused to pass up. And there was only one catch booster would have to fly from Utah back to LA to meet with the potential Renner. He waited for day off to make the trip. He returned home way to beat the Renner and to get the house open the gates to the house. Open a limo entered out came a man five feet two inches tall and dress in a layered top jeans, boots and perfect hairstyle. His eyes remain hidden behind sunglasses. But it starts boozer already knew who it was. His it was prince. So he rents the house Carlos. Yeah. He rents the house to prince actually shot baskets that day. I like you mid range game. How do you do your hair prince disclosed boozer he needed a place where he and his band would field inspired enough to create a new album he signed a one year lease and began occupying the space during basketball season. But if you weeks later boozer got hurt with a hamstring injury that required physical therapy. So he Carlos came to Judy cdo who I know that's Kobe's trainer, physical therapist. And so he flew back to LA to work with Judy. And he said, hey, prints. I'm about to come by the house, if you need anything, let me know boozer returned to his street, but something had changed the house. He'd purchased. Didn't look like the one he bought it all boozer comedian prints made some renovations to the house boozer drove down the street, the twelve foot high gates. Adorned with gold line's that. Greeted him every time he came home. It'd been replaced by a purple symbol of some sort. And he thought, wow, he changed my gate to his symbol. And then when he went in boozer stepped out of the car the stairs leading to the motor court to his house where draped with purple carpet emblazoned with the same spin symbol that had greeted a minutes earlier. And at this point, nobody knew that what the symbol as you. Remember prince change for while to a symbol? He said is formally known as he said the Intel Ian carpet chosen by his then wife were pulled up and replace with black carpet. Black and purple seem to be the new theme vibe minute trying to make album here. John the spare bedroom had been completely transformed into a full use hair, salon the other room a massage parlor. He said what's going on? He turned the weight room into a dance floor yet a disco ball in a deejay booth. I'm like what the hell at this point. I'm like what happened to my house boozer? Immediately began calling prints only to be greeted by his voice mail. Every time days turned in the phone right now, I'm turning the gym into a hair salon with nearly two months without a return. Call from prints boozer was ready to take legal action, quote have to one more message and said print I've been trying to get a hold of you for two months. I don't know where you are. I hope everything is cool with you and your family, but I'm about to sue you because you change my whole house around without giving me any notice, and that's a breach of contract. Three days later prints came back on the grid. My lawyers were about to prepare the paperwork. I'm about to sue print. One of my idols. Nobody wants to do that. And prints calls me and says man, I'm so sorry a bit on the road the whole time. Don't worry the house is gonna look like the house when you moved out when we move in at the end of the move out at the end of the lease. A look just like I was never near trust me prince wired me five hundred grand to ease my mind, which is a lot of bread on top of the rent that he was already paying being a man of his word. Prince did exactly what he said. He would do by the end of the lease the house looked as if he had never been there. How being an NBA player? He's just so insane. The situations. You get yourself into and being in Hollywood. And that's just that's awesome. I love user one who's your walked in to see his all of his beautiful Italian carpeting back in place, the hair salon away, gone away. Carlos boozer's love of Italian carpets. Should also be exported in this conversation the hair salon gone, all the equipment back in his weight room the missed. -tory symbols were seen in nearly every room three months. Earlier had vanished without a trace boozer way. After be some people out there who worked on this construction projects. Like, there's that's Tampa requires thousands of hours of labor in a whole team. I wonder if you're a contractor, and you're like, what are you guys up to today? Well, you know, prince rented Carlos boozer's house, so we're going to turn into a handle on right? Well, here's the last thing. If you're a good day. What time is lunch if you're prince fan Andy him, and Nikki was just in here. He's a big prince fan. He says proof of Princess stay in boozers house is documented throughout the album artwork for thirty one Twenty-one Princess thirty first studio album, which was released in two thousand six boozer says, quote, if you look at the CD cover, that's my house. So he put the house all in the CD cover boozer was so impressed with the way print handled the whole situation. He wired him back the five hundred thousand dollars come on that part is story. Really? Yeah. So that's Greg that is the print Carlos boozer story that is incredible. No. I'd never heard that. While man. All right coming up next fast-track got questions for me. I've got him for him. We'll do them next ESPN LA.

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"Stugotz here here's a new year's resolution. You can actually keep test your vehicle's battery at advance auto parts. They'll do all the work for you swing by today and they'll test your battery for free. No appointment let me necessary if you need a new one. They'll install it easy. Plus enter the Code Dan Twenty when you buy online this twenty percent of your battery purchase so forget losing weight. Wait and saving money and all that Mumbo jumbo just test your vehicle's battery at advance auto parts advance auto parts. They head they advance. This is the base of the Dan on Lebatardshow. We've got spot CASS. Greg Cody of the Miami Herald in with us on on this Tuesday. We've got shale sonnen joining us later. In the show Pete rose joining us later in the show and Rahim poster is joining us He managed to play for the Eagles. The dolphins the ravens the jets the browns and the bears without getting a single Kerry. And then you look up and Jimmy Garoppolo. It doesn't even have to throw the ball in higher game to get into a super bowl because and I have to. I have to genuflect. Here's to God's because there's too much evident went You've heard me over the years. Say a number of different times. How ridiculous these coaching searches are where we go and recycle the guy who's now going to outsmart mark the other guy and be better at XS and os than the other guys? But when you look at Kyle Shanahan record of doing with. Rg three before he got hurt. Something creative that we hadn't seen seen before in Atlanta going up twenty three in the Super Bowl with an offense that hasn't looked like that and a quarterback who hasn't looked like that since he left. And then you look at what happened in San San Francisco when Bill Belichick said you know what in an active altruism and kindness and talk bleep Brady and craft. I'm going to give away Garoppolo to the San Francisco. Forty niners instead of shopping him around to get what could have been obviously a better offer. I'm going to do that because I believe Shanahan. Can Groom this quarterback for for a perfect place for Garoppolo to have success. Here's another guy. Kyle Shanahan who got an opportunity because of whose dad was but you know what he did he put his nose down got to work. He perfected his craft and now he's reaping the benefits wouldn't go Chris. Cody always here. Chris cody already had. Who is your mount? Rushmore of nepotism. It's I think that you've got like John Hockey League and I'm not even close. Yeah I'm just telling Joe Joe Mike golic junior i Frank Sinatra junior no doubt. Sammy Davis Junior. uh-huh Robert Downey senior ever. Do Really I want to go back a few days before football to To celebrate our kind of story story with is which is Tristan Thompson getting objected from a basketball game for vigorously slapping JAE crowder on the. But what's let's. I thought that that was the one safe space that the locker room and sports is the the one place where you could You can spank somebody on the but without their consent. An doesn't result in punishment and I was thinking to myself though what could possibly be a lamer way to get addicted from a game than the way Tristan Thompson got ejected from from a game. Because he was he hit him too hard hit Jae crowder too hard. He was angry about something. It was the height of tension and he absolutely absolutely hit Jae crowder too hard on the butt. But it's such a good defense to say. Hey I was just sort of starting. Well they're on different teams part of the problem. He's not going to get a Jek odd or slapping the butt of someone on his own team. Go sit in the penalty. That'll be Biden's yes no you're not up on your calves basketball edge true. Go sit out there for two minute. Yeah well I WANNA talk to the group about you just getting back once again. You return without our Martin. George R R Martin in your in on your gift basket. We shared a couple of the life of songs on stage. Though you were on stage with them I was. He doesn't like me okay. Pets yeah all right Close the door behind you. Please thank you gotta get a video that do we believe it. We believe that we don't believe anything to God and so is ever going to get a video of that. He does consistently get on stage though for deadandcompany shows I believe him there. And why wouldn't George are Martin also be on stage. I think we can agree. A He deserves to be on their more than God's so You are telling me that STU gods regularly gets on the stage to sing at dead shows with with the creator of of game of thrones. Yeah you know that thing where guys Meet someone for the first time pretends. Their best friend saves her number only to ask them for favors. It worked for Stugotz in regards to going on stage and deadandcompany shows well Mike though he has come in here and he sounds like death and God knows what sort of things he has. You you know sent into his system over this weekend with George are Martin. But he came in here saying he's not very self-aware ever and he said I ah what he said at the end there. I don't think he likes me anymore. I think I pressed too hard. All he wanted to do was tell me that the mets could have been using all the computers in the world and they still wouldn't hit anything and so George. R R Martin is is wearing out Stugatz with met steaks and Stu Gods is wearing out. George R R Martin with requests to be on this show. And it's never going to happen right. Wouldn't it because it hasn't happened in because because he's been saying that he's GonNa do this for two years right. I mean the shows obviously ended but Aaron Rodgers was on it. I mean he he made a cameo me. Oh why not stugotz. Aaron Rodgers was on what. Show game of thrones. Why what are you doing is not what are you talking about sit outside? Aren't you talking about game is just get out here. Aren't you talking. About game of thrones you get Outta here what were you talking to get Outta here going. God how how is this possible man. This is fresh rested and ready to go first segment not tired at all. He has no idea what I'm talking about. Tell me what you're talking. I'm telling everybody what I'm talking. What about just listening? Get outta here. What the hell man? This is how we're coming back. Yep this is how we're doing doing it another Tuesday blossoms in front of us. I'm jealous because I'm looking across the street and Fox. Sports is building a condominium complex complex across the street to broadcast things. I can't believe the luxury that they are pouring into the super bowl. Yeah who's constructing the set J.J. Abrams it's crazy. Frank Lloyd Wright. It's like it's goes down. Stretch it down the beach and I'm looking and I'm thinking to myself. Is that little that little shack over there is that espn the worldwide leader in sports. I think it's just called like the beach is now just called Fox. They own everything like from seventh and south. What is that they are building? They're building something giant and whatever it is it's certainly brought to you by lows because that is a huge sponsorship authorship that they have sold big as lows see it really is you can see the low sign from space. It's crazy the size of love. The thing that they started weeks ago to construct something on the sand out there. That is as big as anything I've ever seen. And and goes across several city blocks at honesty. Seems like a giant. Waste the money. If I'M GONNA be totally honest I mean I know. They're broadcasting the game but like why do you need to identical massive Asif stages right next to each other like how many stages is Jay Glazer. Need all all of them. All of them are not not enough. What are you talking about? How many stages he needs Fox he needs? Hbo He needs the Vaster Stallone's House He Needs Vegas. He needs every needs. Dana White's everyone stage is what Jay Glazer needs. This is really cool that we're getting ready mustard on the show. That's one of the greatest playoff performances. Ever what is he doing joining joining us. It is odd for our show to land a newsmaker But given the general excellence of Stugatz and Greg Cody in this first segment. Why wouldn't a guy who is competent at his job Join us to celebrate his good fortune. What the hell was cody doing? He was just filibustering during and trying to fake it. He didn't have any idea what I was talking about. I mean that's two of them. I mean God had no idea that Jae crowder was traded. I think three three years ago. I think he's been on like two and a half team. Since then Kerry crowd Jae crowder has been on. How many teams so far? How many teams have Jae crowder played for a Celtics cavs Jazz. I think I think I'm forgetting. Why did he think that Tristan Thompson was for slapping the butt of a teaming? Why why would he think? Because Jay crowder was a Cleveland Cavalier and then traded to the jazz and he must have missed that. How many teams ago? How many teams the guys were since he's on the Grizzlies now and at least institute teams at least you teams about tarred? You can't have fun when you're old Stugatz look at me. I'm having a ball mall. This is the Donlevatar show with the guys on. ESPN radio billy. Me a favor. Please see if you can get some sound cleared of Frank Clark. talking to SAL PAOLANTONIO Tonio after the game on Sunday because he was hissing. We are joined now though by the best story in the sport this weekend cut by seventeen without a single carey. He then goes off and has just a historic day first player ever in the NFL to have one hundred and fifty rushing yards and three rushing touchdowns touchdowns in a single half rain moster with us on ESPN radio. Thank you for joining us. And congratulations which of the stats. That you heard after the game or records Kurds broken. which is the one that even made you say? WHOA rigging I I say thank you for having me and Yeah and Wanting once that that really stuck to me and maybe say WHOA is The dickerson that where I was close enough to you know be Being the category of trying to be his record in in a single game I thought that was pretty unbelievable Given the Manitou of you know how big Air Dickson you know his career. His legacy is Yeah it was one of those surreal moments for me. You're not really old enough to remember are you. You're like you're not old enough to run out. I'm not I'm not but you know I know Eric Dickerson. I know he's like one of the greatest running on the backs of all time man. He all famer and everything. Yeah like you say. I wasn't old enough but Just stories and stuff like that. And how great creative backout tremendous of a back hue man It just blows my mind. You know I I like to watch film of old school like l.. Sayers man I I. I think he's the ultimate back like they did everything I like looking at old old footage of all that type of stuff so back footage of all all the running back for for me to be close their dickerson man. That just unbelievable student of the Game Dan. Thank you for nothing. To God's if I told you before order game regime if I told you best case scenario wildest dreams what are you going to do. What statistically are you going to do? You're going to tell me what uh-huh truly I don't. I don't even know it wouldn't have been that though right. It wouldn't have been that would it is not an I honestly I would have been just going out there and I'm just trying to play ball man trying to play complementary ball in you know just be a team guy like I've been doing what led me to where I'm at now you know I wouldn't change anything different different or anything like that Yeah which of the Times that you were cut hurt the most I actually say the first first time I got cut by the Eagles but you know I made their practice squad so I knew I was in. I did something right but Yeah it was one of those house where I thought I did enough and unfortunately I didn't and Actually actually turned out. I did complete you know. Full Circle was no longer the head coach of the Eagles at the time And then a couple of years later you know he you gotta get the head. Coaching job for for The forty niners and he puts me on A. You know I come back to the organization where He he saw me and gave me the opportunity so I just just roll with the opportunity and it's been taken ever since you keep that list of teams the seven teams that cut you and the dates that they cut you and you look at them before games. You have nothing committed to memory. Like if I said A.. T. would you know the exact date that they cut you. Yeah man no honestly I I don't I don't I try not to keep the memory because I wanted to still be still. Fresh is still like a wound to me. You Know Oh my I don't Wanna I don't WanNa have to be like okay October. So and so. I mean that Timber V. It's two thousand fifteen. I had that one because it's the eagles you that was my first ever but yeah I don't i. Don't try to necessarily remember the list. I just want to always want to go to the list and make sure I look get in thoroughly. Field is the the the emotion I had to go through figure where I'm at today rain most hurt with us on. ESPN radio so so seven teams. You don't get a single carey. Did you. At any point along. They're say well I'm not going. This isn't going to work. Yeah It it was one of those things man you know. I really had to sit back and think where where I was at in life You know what I'd be okay with With with you know quitting the game and and going and you know doing something that you know May I may not love or you know clocking winging or something like that and Mike Knots. I gotTA keep pushing if I WANNA get out WanNa get if I want to get out to be a great running back or you know specialty not later than I had to do All the little things in order to you know keep me motivated. And that's that's what helping also Salt in my wife. I mean that's that's really you know who helped me through times man and I feel like I don't give her enough credit but She does she kept me in line and no matter what they always had had believe. Have faith in me Even when you know those the six other teams didn't And like I said I gotta give her all the do because she really got my mind right and it really helped me out mentally To and to get to where I'm at today. Keep you in line. How so? Where are you depressed where you sulking? Were negative you know negative. My demeanor wasn't the same. You know Any any any person that's in the League would know what I what I feel. You know being cut cut and she really she really did did just man did did her part in help me bring to light. Hey like you love his game of football like did you say you love it. Right won't go out there and do what you gotta do. In order to you. Know Be Successful. How emotional was your time with her after Sunday? Because is the mountain top. Sharing the view is the best part. Oh Man I I wasn't emotional. I was trying to keep it. Keep it together I know she was emotional. In my mother-in-law she's here in California she shared with us to and I know I know my mother-in-law On the show back was he was definitely emotional Because she also helped me you know. She's all wet when nobody else saw she knew I could be a special person And and do the things I've I've been able to do Yeah they they both are emotional and A- caught up to me as well describe it. Describe and explain to me what you're saying there. Where was it what happened? You know we're we're on the field and in that confettis I can say is in the air you know you I'm hosting the hosting the trophy up in the air they hold my son on the stage and you know my wife. I'm looking down at this stage. Not just see my wife man and she's crying mother-in-law's crying There was one of those things where man I'm it's so surreal like I really did this. You know I'm the MVP of the NFC championship game I did my part you know took me a long. It gets to where I'm at is. Yeah like I said it was all all all types of emotions man drive you to grow. You were blubbering. You're blubber I wouldn't admit I did a little bit. I did a little bit in the locker room. Like I had to keep it together. Man On that stage and The biggest the biggest moment is for my for me was when I was holding my son up. A there Yeah I felt like I was just you know. Bring in two two worlds together Fatherhood and and the the game of football you know Not Too many people experienced that feeling of having the fun up there but Yeah it was. It was one of those things where I really had to keep it together and I really enjoyed embraces. How crazy is kettle title? Scale of one to ten ten being the highest level of crazy. Oh man that was like fifteen to twenty. What's the matter with him though he he just he got that edge to a man that is unparalleled nobody can match his his his energy energy? Man He just does a great job now. He's a fun he's a fun guy to be around Fun Teammate he does all the little things You know you take care of his body he does he does everything then. And he's he I'm older to him and I'm I'm looking at him like he's a role model man because His game like I said is unmatched. And there's nobody That I've seen in my five years Other than Asian Peterson. You know Or somebody like that in my position I felt like is a guy that I could truly be like. Man I'm I'm blessed to even wash got play He's like I say he's downtown. Yeah he does a great job. Yeah we'll get you out of here on this. You evidently were or are an excellent surfer and you come from shark-infested said waters. Do you have a good story. Do you have a good story for us. Anywhere in the surfing realm so You know I was probably about Thirteen or fourteen and Out on a wave and You know I'm just on actually in the water just waiting on the way on my board and I'm with a group of friends who Always Laws Daily surfing thing and Early in the morning probably about like six thirty seven. Because that's what we felt like the way whereas the best at the time and Yeah I'm just sitting on my board man in like literally two feet in front of me I see a shark fin. Just go up and just go right back down and I'm just like about to start panicking and My Boys Tell Me Ryan don't panic if you panic is going to draw more attention and this is gonNA think your food because make fish around sharks. They tend to You know scatter away to try to get get rid of get away from the shark and Yeah so I think I had to do that. was just a slowly. Put My feet on top of the board. That's all I can do that. At that moment it was so it was like okay. This is really happening like I. I got listening to these guys they. I don't know if they've been through it already or not. But I'm just gonNA listen to them. They tell me not not the freak out. I'm GONNA do that. Let's I'm a big call. One of my name is Sorry stories that you know I could share with people. Listen same sort of advised when you see Frank Frank Clark Ryan. Thank you for being on with us. We appreciate it sir. Congratulations thank you guys grabbed me. I appreciate it tarred. WHO's the second most famous Frank Frankenstein Stugatz pretty good? It's also not as name Frank. Thank my friend calls them. Frankie live at our show with two guys on ESPN PM radio. Greg Cody of the Miami Herald in with us. As to God's told you hailstone and will be in a half hour Pete Rose at twelve thirty eastern but now now it is time for stugotz weekend. Observations it is time for us to to share his game notes. No one in the media will tell you what happened but at the two weekend observations brought to you by vivid seeds. Download the vivid seats APP and enter Promo Code. ESPN TWENTY-FIVE AT checkout to get ten percent off your next order. Don't NEC get a vivid seats and committee. After winning a match in which is entrance into the octagon was longer than his actual fight. Dan conor CONOR McGregor is back. Notorious Kyle Shanahan more. I understand understand the courtesy flush but I'm sorry I need to see my poop before it goes down upside. I just I need to make sure that there's nothing you know suspicious in it and that there's actual pope in the ball that is it. Put It on the poll. Gamma do you need to see it before you fly so you see how big it is. Jose Altuve it said he's confident. Everything will be five adorable little cheater. Whether they're adorable. adorable with Ryan tannehill knocked out of the playoffs. Let's pop a bottle the champagne for Trent dilfer whose incredible stretch continues as the worst quarterback to ever win a super bowl. Run the ball stop. Stop the run bill. parcells must be so proud of the forty niners the big tuna. These aren't your Dad's San Francisco. Forty niners pack. These aren't your great granddad. Forty niners the OS in Garoppolo Stanford auto grab got a sneak peek of the the chiefs parade route. It passes every waffle house aide Kansas City. Andy Reid careful in Miami. There's a real L. chance that's not powdered. Sugar on your pancakes Stan there. It's okay there. It his subtlety strength but Mandy. Stand there and look Pretty Kyle. Shanahan playing right into Jimmy. Garoppolo is strength the only things faster than MMA fights is Rickyandtina Patina. Think side together. Patrick Mahomes do it in the Super Bowl super bowl the ultimate win or go mahomes. It's time it's a Conor McGregor to knock out the guy's name cowboys rode asked Aronie runs rony. Rick Potato could've had sex three times. That's what you meant. All congratulations to Mike. Vrabel for not having to cut cut off. His Penis Clipper fans who booed earlier. This season shouldn't be allowed to enjoy this. Ed shouldn't be allowed to joy. What's coming coming? The bucks are thirty nine and six good Pacers five straight whitest twenty eight and fifteen eighteen start in NBA history. It feels like the Pacers have been waiting for Victor Depot to come back forever. I want to advise the niners to keep Jimmy G. away from south beach but if he's only going to throw the ball tied have had it can two games against the packers. The forty niners went to and up and outscored them seventy four to twenty twenty eight. You know what that means Dan. Oh exactly right back. The Titans Defensive Coordinator Dean pees retired. Wonder who leaked it. I think we can expect a steady stream of news trickling going in from Tennessee. Concern among state and fan over a possible replacement. Don't worry you're in luck Mike. Brady bill is headed up the search rebel. We'll have his work cut out for him. Though pease was a real whiz. Him returning was option number one but I think we can all agree. PS was perved. Oh I don't know college basketball. Chaos Jimmy Garoppolo on the verge of winning a super bowl. Tom Brady Brady on the verge of leaving New England not the happy ending. Robert Kraft has become accustomed to as a joke. Please lease what happened there that I write that I did write that. That's what happened there. uh-huh wrote that as a joke. Please somewhat when the baseball hall of fame Tonight Send Derek jeter a gift basket playing chorus field in. The nineties was a greater advantage than steroids. But you're on the Larry Walk get in put it on. The poll Bama was the playing field in the nineties greater advantage than steroid if the world is indeed flat and Kyrie Irving find the edge and walk off of it. Aw what happened just killed killed Kyrie irving I suppose he lives as he's falling and the rest of the time. AH PEOPLE I haven't heard from in years calling me for Super Bowl tickets collision course the sixers at bed. Simmons are are better without Joel embiid. Death taxes at James Harden Missing Sixteen threes in a game. Stephen a Smith's Alex Smith Day Stephen a little late to the party PAL Kemba Walker. If at first you don't succeed try try try again and again and again and again beat him at again and again and again and again and again again and again at a guide and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again Aaron Rodgers addressing the season saying this what will always be special because football became fun again. Mike McCarthy shots fired at the age of twenty six frank. Clark Somehow looks older than my grandfather's. True Dan you know what I did with. The Dean pees jokes today I sprinkle them in. I'm forty seven but the hell am idyllic. Speak it a hell Dan. Those are the weekend observations mass gasoline. It's dangerous out there. Can we get aerial Halawani to to say during clippers. Heat on Friday right as the sideline reporter. What happened there what happened? There is a stugatz signature where it gets a prized by the thing. He's just said which he wrote what what happened there debit card. I love me. Some doctors have a lot of respect for the medical profession. stugatz except chiropractors. These live at our show show with the stugotz on. Espn Radio Kale Sonnen with us now on ESPN radio. He was predicting an upset on on Saturday night. When you're making a lot of predictions you're going to get some stuff wrong? It's hard to predict any of this stuff but I think everybody was a little surprised after that. Lay off more than a thousand thousand days. That conor McGregor was able to win that quickly so jail sonnen joins us now on. ESPN radio thank you as always for making the time jail What did did you make of all of that? Is The reason that you are picking against Conor McGregor because of that layoff well. It's nice that you've come crawling back begging egging me take you in but here I am. I gotTa tell you listen. Four hundred sixty days off all the pressure in the world on you. 'cause you pick the date you pick the opponent. Oh by the way then you weigh weighing in at the heaviest. Look the history of fighting says if you order. Fighter weighs heavier than he's ever. Wade's tear the betting ticket. Because you're not going to win that night and Connor still you want and not to mention it was applicable. He never got hit a single time. He threw twenty strikes and he had the nineteenth. Those numbers are remarkable. WHO and by the way I Miss Boca got thousands more than a thousand days since his last win not his last fight? Who Do you want to see him? Fight next George Moskva Doll and I know that Dana Saint could be. I would never go against the boss us. But I'm telling you that dates just don't match up to already has a fight four months from now so we're supposed to kick the congregation and then Kabaeva openly goes into Ramadan. He won't be available to September timber. Connor says it's connor season. He wants three more five just in two thousand twenty. I believe in but that means we gotta find him at opponent George Basel. Who would win that fight? George there's Bob at all but that's still a good fight. The days of county Conor McGregor out are done and I think that he showed that this weekend. If you told me a week ago Connor was gonNA fight Mazda Dot Connor was. I was GONNA win. I bet you whatever you wanted to bet I. I don't have that same confidence anymore. Car can go with anybody but monsters. Decide Muslim has a size. Is it true you want some of the Don knock out three guys in a nightclub saw it I I did not see it. I just got my hands on that story over the weekend and I asked George I said hey man I gotta tell that story okay to tell and he was. He didn't know anything interesting about it. He said yes. Who Hung up the phone on me? I said all right. I'll tell him that story. So tell the story to the audience. Because Greg Cody assumes uh-huh the audience knows everything he knows because he's very involved. I do. Thank you Georgia. Georgia goes into a club and he's wearing a necklace and two guys walk up to that he doesn't know one guy flicks the necklace of George for whatever reason interprets that. They're getting ready to rob me so he knocks both guys out now. Have you ever meet a guy that tells you to call or through two punches and I talked to guys. You just met a liar unless that person's Jorge Mas Vidal so tours lays these guys decides. He needs to duck into the bathroom while security deal with this best. The crowd comes around. Goes in the bathroom. Some guy comes in the bathroom behind him. George decides that guy could be with them. Knock that guy out. I say Ma's with all what is the poor guy that came to the bathroom had nothing to do with it. It was just use the restroom in Georgia could've take the risk and the great l. in the bad guy is available on ESPN plus and for those of you who have noticed that This ESPN partnership has resulted in more MMA coverage or absolutely not right when ESPN gets the rights to things. It covers the more just like with hockey. And so it's covering a more than it ever has. Because there's a partnership here but what I wanted to ask you about is whether or not conor McGregor should have been fighting as a giant pay day with a couple of pending sexual assault allegation. I gotTa tell you that thing is like the best kept secret of all time. There was rumors through tabloids that connor was being looked at for an assault. No charges have ever. We're good made public. And nobody can confirm this. Connor himself. Says it's absolutely not true. I didn't do it but I'm not even being looked at like one step further that I didn't do it I'm not even being looked at. That's all holy rumor. Now we're hearing other things out of Ireland that the way they're laws are set and they can't reveal whether he was looked at. But I'm telling you that we don't have anything to go off of so imagine being Dana White all you have. How is the trust of a partner? You'd have five years. Who's telling you it's not me? There's nothing to this. I think you've got to move forward so you just keep it moving because you don't don't have enough You don't have enough in the way of evidence but also you're giving us information there that I had not heard you're telling us that the denials are so strong and that had some sort of secret. I have not read anywhere that some sort of secret. Yes the one thing about Ireland I can confer you. They have a law that if anybody is looked at very sexual assault assault that never gets revealed until the trial is over and the decision is in. It's not like America where they go. Yeah this guy who was indicted these going up because it can ruin a guy for life. You can't ever back all of those things it's one thing you don't ever want your name associated with Ireland to get in front of that as a country. It's a law. Nobody can ever confirm that Intel the gavel comes down so other other people that are anti connor have also used that against him go. Yes the only reason it's not confirmed is because of the slots one of these weird thing. Connor sitting there telling them to not only is. It's not me I'm I'm not even being looked there's no truth whatsoever. I was at home at that. What are the fights the child son and wants to see what are the? What's coming up here? That's got you excited that you're looking in forward to well. You Know John Jones is GonNa take on raise In February and raise just offers a lot of things that John Hasn't seen before John is arguably the greatest challenge sports ever seen next. George Saint Pierre. He does also have some benefits. He's always the biggest guy he's always got the longer reach. Always the younger guy. Two of those three things are now gone. Radios is bigger and raise his younger by four years. Which is meaningful at least on paper but I also you know my eyes are really on Khabib versus Tony? That's going to be the Barclays in April and the reason that is it just sets up the story lines moving forward for that division and that is of course conner's division. Is Tony going to get the jump on of even all all of a sudden connors the odd man out because everybody wants to see a rematch that Tony Versus Kabaeva. Tony Versus Connor. Is it to be with and this could be versus. There's just a lot of very interesting things. Think we start off two thousand twenty. John Jones is the best fighter I've ever seen and there's no slight to Saint Pierre. What's the argument? You're making on behalf of Saint Pierre and we can can split hairs on this. Obviously that you would say. He's better than John J-o-h-n well what are the problems. You'RE GONNA have arguing John Jones and it's a strong argument by the way but one of the problems. You Avenue debate that with with friends where people like in the situation. Where is all of the positive drug tests? I mean I think the guy's failed one more drug tests and I have. I used to have the record so you don't think about that. Came up and baseball right where they were saying like well with an Asterix So that little asterix that spills over as far as talented and as for what he can do with some of his movements and how dynamic it is and how fast he can grow John is never the same guy twice. He grows every time I've seen John. Jones have fights were Joe Rogan. You can't even tell the audience the move that John Did 'cause John has made it up in a world title fight. What do you think he'll do as a heavyweight? You know. I think he'd probably runs through that division for the most part. He's going to have st problems. Of course but Dana coordinate is openly leaving that division Daniel Cormie hasn't really had a close second aside from St Bay and we've also seen the benefit of is moving up. I'm a whether it was go way. Back to Roy Jones and he moved up to take on Ruiz but dominated manege him generally the hardest. GotTa find the guy from one weight class below you. Because he's a little faster and he can move a little bit better than some of those big guys which means his his shape conditioning. It's GonNa last just a little bit longer. I would have to assume that John Jones walks in that division. I top three and very possibly grabs the crown. I mean steep as a hard night out for anybody but John's gotta be right there. John's got problems though he's got problems. Need Israel out of Sonya on a song it comes up to Johnson weight class and he stays it to a five. We could have a changing of the guard sooner rather than later. Jelly you buy in this new one nicer Conor McGregor. You know what I was disappointed. In many ways because connor the maniac is so much fun but yes I did get by. I understand that largely that's PR understand that ties into some of the conversation we're having earlier. I get the whole thing with Connors at gentlemen. I gotTa tell you this. If you ever beat Conor McGregor and there's no camera came around. I wanted only put his personality as pleasant. I would go as far as to put his personality as shy if connor was around you. He's not going to say very much. Interview Turner Cameron including you pull out an iphone. The professional comes right out but yeah I do buy it. I think that's closer to the real khader than the maniac. Connor you mention in your failed drug tests. I don't remember being surprised by anything in that sport as you pounding Anderson Silva for five for five for the better part of five rounds. How much help are are you getting there? Like how what and I gotTa Tell Ya fairness to the story. So I tested positive for testosterone and that testosterone was legal at that time so I tested positive for a legal substance in all fairness to me. That was a little bit of a screw job But to answer your question yes. I took testosterone. Because it helps me. I've never taken anything unless I thought it would help me. I've never been to a doctor and said hey dot com feeling great. Bring me down a little bit. I find performed a character. Your flaw I find that. We're performance enhancing it'd be positive terms shale good talking to you always good talking to talking to me. This was great. Talk the radio home tarred. You're going to get real STUGATZ. I'll get real these live at our a show with the stugotz on. ESPN radio interesting. Back and forth between Durell Rivas and Richard Sherman. I don't know why anyone would ever ever go after Richard Sherman on anything because he's going to scorch you. There isn't going to be a lot of retort so Durell. Rivas is basically saying the only criticism that anyone can file with Richard Sherman. which is that? He often is a scheme corner. As opposed imposed playing man to man that he doesn't Trail a number one receiver all over the place that he plays on his side and Durrell Rivas showed him. I'm getting beat by Davante Adams in the game on Sunday. Durell Rivas basically criticized Richard Sherman as a scheme guy and Richard Sherman's men's respond on top of correcting durell revisit spelling. He was saying. You didn't look like me in your ninth year. Your ninth year. Didn't look like my ninth year. Also enjoy the game from from your couch and Durrell Rivas. The most surprising thing about it to me was as one of the great sports sports mercenaries of our time. His Sunday television set up is pretty weak and it looks like a dorm room from college student. That doesn't have any money. I was going to say. It looks like my living room and I just moved into my house. Maybe he's going for that though. I mean he's going for college. Broke College dorms student edges. So you know hanging around the guys. I'm sorry these coughing my mouth. I'm Greg Cody has been caught both go to therapy. They get out of here. Just go to therapy couch both of you. I mean cody. He Cost Twenty seven times to stifle it. And then STU gods stugatz Gotz turns around and blames him. Blames Cody in fact. That is two dollars. Blames Cody for the for the phlegm in his throat. What do you mean? It's a fact. That Greg Cody coughing caused you to have flim and to just gurgle it into the microphone directly in my mouth both of you get out of here and take your time fellows like this is a punishment over there waving Mike. How much did you enjoy the the rebus Sherman airman back and forth? Well I loved it because they both made amazing points. I think rebus is absolutely right. I in maybe. There's a reason why everybody does it. And historically historically Pete Carroll's had great production from cornerbacks whenever they leave that system. They hadn't really done well up until now what. Richard Sherman is doing thirty one on years old often Achilles injury which is usually a death sentence for athletes and other scientists starting to get better there but at a thirty one at an age of thirty one often Achilles these injury to lead another team defensively to a super bowl. It's really great and you don't really have a good comeback for. Yeah my year nine look a lot better than yours always. It's a hater criticism. Though to take the one time he gets beaten a game that they're winning by a million points and point out from your couch while you're not playing in your out of the League You know it just. It's it's reeks of petty. There's no reason to do it. It's Super Petty And I'm not really sure if if there's more to that argument than that I'm not sure if they get along because they were always guys that were compared to each other. But I do think that there's room for some of these discussions as to. How much scheme helps inflate certain players numbers? That doesn't take away. Well I guess it kind of does but look Mostert. Most hurt played a brilliant game. He's clearly really the best option in the backfield that when Rita was healthy he was running for eighty yards. Money but the Shanahan's will get that out of just about anybody somehow. Yeah the Shanahan's and Kubiak so the world whenever whenever there is owned blocking scheme takes over for a running back their numbers inflate and it's something specific to them. There are plenty of other teams are like. We'd love to do zone blocking scheme for a running game and it doesn't end up working some really talented backs and putting Stinky Darren McFadden but if seven young can perform in this Landis Gary can perform in this Rueben drones can perform in this. I think there's a a conversation to be had there. I really do billy. You're down on curb. Yeah I watched the first episode but I didn't I don't know I felt like the first like five or six minutes. A lot of it was really forced. I mean I'm assuming it'll get better throughout out the season it was just like some of this stuff was outrageous and there was no real point to it. Well wait a minute. That's his entire career. That's Larry David has built two industries after out of no point to what it is that they're doing just a minor grievances that he makes major by being Oblique Pool. That's the whole that's the whole construct. I mean I've seen her before I know how the the show works. I'm just saying usually it's around storyline. When you're walking around just breaking self his yeah? Hey we're holy yeah. Well it's ridiculous that we're here. I mean Dan as usual continues to banish us for no reason whatsoever when he's the one doing all the wrong stuff on the show l.. How did you hear what he said earlier? Did you hear what he said early where we started the show. Hopefully they bleep it. Because that's the kind of thing they get. You know it so you know you break a Selvi stick you go you push down some of the The scooters or whatever there is fine while they're things are going on but it was just kind of like ray just just think -rageous thing and then finally I liked. I liked that. He is tortured. Always thinking that he's going to run out of ideas on what petty grievance he's GonNa Complain About and I very much we're sitting on this card. It would be a little bit little bit cumbersome. Yeah I mean. Did you hear how we started the show they did you hear what he started the show whether ones all the time he's in reruns already so the episode is not unlike other episodes roads that they've done throughout their history where he's cramming more and more ridiculous silly nonsense into it but you the first five or six minutes seems pointless to you. I was laughing out loud in front of my television. It was just kind of like I was waiting to see where we were kind of going. It was just him and Leon walking around and just you know causing some trouble but Leon being funny while they were they were funny but you know and he look. It's Billy Gill. What the hell do I know? What am I to tell? Larry David what to do. So it's just hard. It's hard to be funny every week. I'm surprised that he's very comfortable. I would cuddle with you again. I say it's like a pillow here. This is fantastic. We should we should intentionally do something wrong on the air so the Dan Census in here moral little cuddling. Your father sounds terrible again Chris. I'm a little worried about him again. Like he spent the whole show show coughing again. We he's been sick for like six months like almost two years now and he every time it's just like just battling something he just never. It's like dude. I'm worried. Get better and he comes in here. And he's weasing of the whole lumberjack. Thing I mean he makes a joke of it. But you know back. In the the late seventies in the Yukon. I was a lumberjack for about six or eight months where you really yeah I was. I was in North West Manitoba. We're cutting down Hundred Foot Pines and cedars in and You know that's what I did so you know mosh to that you know. I were mackinaw. Everyone's law to wear it in Miami. Though this is this is a bit that works so much better on television than it does on radio. Because you're sitting here watching Stu gods and cody actually cuddling next uh-huh uncomfortably and I'm afraid that whatever your father it was too cold I mean I loved working the chainsaw. You know those were the big eighteen inches it it was. You know there was something when you have an eighteen inch. Sawn your hand it's cheating. It feels like steroids to me. I flink I'd prefer to cut down a tree and the one time I have cut down a tree. I did it with an ax. Well I mean you're a man's man. You know bunion obviously used only enactment. uh-huh billy I don't believe there are a whole lot of people out here criticizing the season opener curb your enthusiasm you're really staking. Your own clan. Mean I'm not normal collegue in the majority on stuff so used to this. You generally like the show though right now I love this show. It's one of my favorite shows. I was just fantastic. I think even after the commercial social break when he calls us back we should just stay here. Because it's it's nice. I'm thinking about leaving my wife for you on Jons interesting. Because when he snatched the GOPRO growth Larry David from that Lady's hand just casually walking over his knee. That's apply you know. It seemed like they were just leaning on things that annoy Larry. There wasn't really but usually there's like a story around that I don't understand why you guys interesting you're saying of curb your enthusiasm. It seems like they lean on things that annoy Larry and billy saying to me then. I don't need you explain the show to me. But that's the whole show. The whole show is things that annoy. Larry I'm excited about the Sheryl angle like the rekindling Schengen Damn right. I would. He had everything you want in a big bad Baseball batter had the big stick. Knew how to swing can make his own. Bats righty chop down the tree and make his own bats. Jack is your heart beating hope Selena such a good question. Put It on the ball. The M. O. is with Greg. Cody beating Lebatardshow. Why are you so bad at this Stugatz I? I can't answer that. It's a good one though. I've been thinking about a lot. This is the Dan Le Batard show with two guys on. ESPN radio all right. So Pete rose. We've been wanting to talk to him here. Seventeen time all-star all star. We're talking about the hall of fame today. Because Greg Cody is one of these old timey old timey voters and he has now voted for Sammy. Sosa but pete rose can't get into the hall of fame so we're GonNa talk to him now about an an assortment of cheating going on throughout the sport the head King. Thank you Yes that's right the hit king. So thank you for joining us First things first so you watch this astros scandal play out. And what is it that you think to yourself. Well Yeah you know what when I played. it was. You always tried to steal the science from a third base coach You'd like to know a manager if the guy's got hit run honorees gotTA squeezed leased fun. Honor he's gotTa Steal Because you can pitch out and help win the game. I was never wanted to know what was coming As far as the guy on the second trying to tell me I didn't want to know because he might be wrong. But when you start using electronics to do it That's too much and I don't know who did what when they did it but it's amazing to me guys. I don't know how you guys feel about this. But you'll you've had three measures that are terminated. You have one general manager artist terminated and. I don't know stealing size helped any of those four guys. Dis Dis helped a hitter. Yeah we we we can't we can't discipline any of the hitters. I I know it's a tough situation for rob Manfred because you don't know who did it and when they did it but I mean just general Houston did. He did help by stealing size chronically. I mean they won but understood stood understood the hitters benefited more cheaters benefited more than but they. They were going after authority and they wanted to give some unity the players because it got them to be more honest and the investigation. And you'll also have to collectively bargain. You know how strong the union is you have to collectively bargain or punishments. Well peanuts do it right and they don't WanNa mess with that union. You're absolutely right about that but Still I mean you have to. If you don't do anything that players are they're probably gonNA think they can do it again just like At at least they suspend the guy taking steroids for a year or so or eighty games or so you know that that kind of curtail a bit but yet every year you have a couple more guys is there would be eight days or caught taking steroids. So that's not totally cleaned up and Do we think that these two Boston and Hugh Center senator the only two teams that did this. Are they smartest guys in the World Pete using electronics to steal signs betting on baseball steroids. Playing winging coors field in the nineties which is the worst I I don't. I don't know steroids steroids You still have to hit the ball and you still have to hit the ball where nobody catch it But let me tell you something guys. I played thirty five five hundred games. I bet at fifteen thousand times I would love. I would love to know what is coming when the guy threw the pitch see guests hitter. I guess hitter is a guy who say guy has a fastball slider and a changeup he's got three pitches now against hitter and a lot of your home run here is your guests hitters. They'll go up and they'll look for a pitch may look for a curve ball. They may look for Fast Ball. They may look for a slider. That's called guests hitting but now electrically you're getting vicious your guess hitting but you're guessing right every time because the piss you guess is coming because they told you coming and believe me when I tell you hitting. There's a lot lot easier you know what's coming especially if you've got a guy that's got a great change up or a guy's got a great curb all you know everybody's got a good fastball. But you've got a great changeup you know it's coming you're never off stride in all pitchers try to do is get hitters off stride. That's what a change up does and it's you know it's coming your stride. You may not hit to find a whole but you're so hit the ball hard. If it's a strike you still gotta swing to strike you. Sound Good Pete rose with us on. ESPN Radio Pete I am a voter and you should be in the hall of fame. I made that mistake many years ago. Oh and you know. I'm not going to spend the rest of my life praying. I go to the hall of things that ever happens up the happiest guy in the world and I know all the guys since. Let's see up sixty the three the first hall of fame played against With Stan musial so I pretty much know. All the guys went into the hall of fame after sixty eight or sixty sixty nine all the way up until today and I played against most of my plate with a lot of them so I know all about the hall of fame and there are some guys that should it'd be in there. I mean I'm not. I'm not going to sit here and tell you. I believe in steroids or anything like that. Barry bonds hit a great career. Roger Clemens had a great career you know I'm not so I'm not so much on Mark mcgwire's of bandwagon because Mark Maguire was a home run hitter so as Dave kingman. You know I mean you gotta be able to play the game of baseball and somebody's D. H. is Edgar Martinez made it. He didn't owner glove. I played when I mean. How the hell can you tell somebody? I'm a baseball where we'll go a bit. Your glove will play out in the back. Why don't have a globe? What do you mean you're a baseball player? I got a bad. That's that's a honeymoon man to be baseball. Aw that's a honeymoon. But Pete I have to ask you very honestly. You're a betting man. Would you bet that you will some day be reinstated and make the haw. Aw either posthumously or during your lifetime I don't think so around I don't think so Around and I can't get your Ki. Listen guys I support for twenty four years and I only worried about things I was in control of and I'm not in control of being reinstated. Hey I like rob Manfred. I think he's he's got a tough job and this is a this is tough toughest challenge so far a couple other challenges. He has okay this past year. You guys know strikeouts were up. Home runs were up. A tennis was down okay. Baseball attendance was down by a million. So if I'm the Commissioner of Baseball I concern myself with that if I'm the Commissioner of Baseball and I see a seven game world series between Houston and Washington and and five of the Games. We're four hours and the only one of them was an extra inning game. I gotta find a way to shorten the game and you can't shorten the game by these pitchers or not there in pitching five or six meetings because every game has four or five six pitchers in it and when you're bringing pictures parade pitchers in every other inning. It takes time to play the game clause you. You have six minutes of commercials every any. It's a night any game. What's nine times six fifty four minutes of commercials? They're not going to get rid of the commercials so people who worried about long games. Forget about it it's not gonna it's not GonNa get Better Pete last time you were on with us you told us your worst Bad beat story where they're a horse six and a half lengths ahead and then a deer jumps over the railing and knocks out the racetrack. We haven't heard of better stories. It's eight front going down the backside and at Damn beer ran out of the woods. Knocked Jockey off the horse. Okay but I wanted to. What the bad guys? Because I wish I got my money back. I I wanted to ask you though your second. Worst bad beat story. Because I didn't think that you'd be able to top that that one but do you have another good bad beat story. Well I remember what time many years ago I I had to bet on a football game. Minnesota was playing somebody and They I think they were there. Forty three point favorites. Okay and they and they won by forty to. You're forty two points and you win you win by one point. Less than what you're given I mean but that happens all the time not as good not as good as a story. That's okay the battery. How about one time? I bet on the duck and the Damn Thang drowns. Why are you dog? Yeah do you do you look at it. You got time for a quick story short or okay I'm ten or eleven years old. And and when I was a kid Don Zimmer Dad. My Dad used to take us to the racetrack every Saturday started. Okay uh-huh what's the language teach. You gotta be careful. Go ahead keep going that that. That's it and and he told me one day he had a dream about White House black casts and big catch little hats and they went to work on the produce company and that guy him a nuisance that red hat and as he did every day. Eight lunch would ten miles East River. Downs Racetrack opened at the program and number one top. So if you know anything about gambling you're dreaming bad hats. I guy gives you a new hat cop at he'd better thousand dollars a win on talk. Pat Nineteen fifty. That's a big bet guys in nineteen fifty. They're going to turn your coming down the homestretch. The last year of fifty to one shot be talkback and I was his name. I said WHO WANNA race. He said Embraer. Oh we'll talk to you tomorrow. I WanNa Talk to you tomorrow. You WanNa come back on tomorrow please I I know to do is just getting ready to go to work but hey guys thanks for calling in and I hope they just get district now because You know baseball donate more controversy is tough enough to play a game and you don't have a lot of controversies in football. You don't have a lot of basketball. You never have hockey so you know. Baseball's gotTa try to get exactly a cleaned up all right. We'll talk to you tomorrow. Okay have a good day awesome live about tarred. My hair is unfashionably age inappropriate long perhaps the longest and has been since college and May continue as such. I'm not sure why. Last vestiges of the of the extreme outer limits of MIDLIFE CRISIS STU gods feudal shield held wobbly against the encroachment of mortality may navy the last stage but before the onset of Mister Rogers style sweaters and the silent surrendering acknowledgement of official. Old Aide. Ah All true you always wrote. You would be like one of America's greatest on these libertad show with Stugatz on ESPN radio. I have done a lot of things wrong today. And one of them My fault during the Pete Rose Interview. I was supposed to toss it to him to advertise. You should get used to that over the next coming weeks here with the Super Bowl and I did not do it. So can you please look for me. Whatever ever information it is that Pete Rose was trying to sell and I didn't allow him to because I was asking for gambling stories? Jorges Sodano has brought its strong here in these sideline reports. To God's he is doing it effortless effortlessly relentlessly. He's making is a good year as look bad. I Four for four in one game. Listen to this to God's him dropping show phrases four for four in one game. Thanks Dave we're here with Jack Levin Gene Zach. Obviously a big push for you to get into the All Star game. You know what maybe and you've had a big push yourself. You can't shake your widespread. 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I I could not improve in the post game. I Chris Cody gave me this line. I was texting because I was A. GimMe More Gimme more. And Cody said. What was the phrase that I used with With Ben Simmons. I didn't ask for any of this. I didn't answer any like you know what I think I can make this work. Go ahead. There's been a lot of talk on the talk shows about you and your offense and I'm sure you think to yourself ready of this. A tough one to do. I didn't ask for any of them. I snuck it in so there. You go your four five for five five because Izzy Now what's is he going to do. We're going to recruit aerial Hawaii on Friday to see what he he can drop into the Teluk. Yeah we're going to do some peer pressure with Ariel who showing us in studio on Friday ice By the way Pete Rose partnered with pioneering. Wait wagering company healthy Lee wage lose ten percent of his body weight and six months. It went cold hard cash more information. Go to Howard wage dot com use way. 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"Welcome to the thousand nineteen Duffy awards. I'm your host Mark Titus. With me is my co host tape Frazier. It's here the Duffy awards of his our heroes of I was gonna say we finally are brought to you by the friend of the program Tate. I wanna I wanna personally think. To to a person. Just everyone called me. And I will personally what what what's caused numberless. This cow's number him, call it. I wanna thank all the fans for for fallen us all season makes it so much more fun. I know kind of did a sign off at the end of the last by cast. But I wanted to officially say thank you to everyone listening. Our reward for you is the Duffy awards which last year. This was my favorite podcasts that we did last year. And where we gave out all of our words, and we just kind of recap the entire season. Put a nice little bow on it Tate. That's where we're going to do today. And we're also going to talk. We we have to accept in speeches that happen in the Duffy awards. And if if you kind of have been following the podcast for while, you probably can guess who they're going to be. And if you haven't you might be surprised, or maybe I don't know, you you, you might be some degree of surprised, but there are two people, and they are big names. And we were very very excited to talk to them and to hear them except their Duffy awards. So that's all Yvette that. We'll leave it at that. And we all. I would say that we have going through the Duffy wars getting all these categories together, basically working with the academy to see who will be mandated who will actually we don't know who's gonna we only have. So we're going to open the envelope is just as shocked as you are this is live to tape. But as you're listening, we will be in shock, and all and I cannot wait for all things stuffy because here comes well. Let's get to it. But I what did hear them. From California in the ringers podcast studio, number shoes. One shining Marquez second annual dumping. Celebrating Ed so ends in college gas y'all tonight we will highlight shiniest moments of the year featuring. Zion. Williamson's exploiting Seger. Urine national champion university of Virginia men's basketball team, coats, K and the Mike SIS Jeff ski dancers. My big fat Greek put Tino. Zion Williamson's positive way Brabourne. Matthew mcdonough? Hey, finally, wear shirt that annoying little critter alma mater. John rusting, murdering critters. His pointing finger in behind pissing as man, that's soul. Sucking sunk in his sister Jean. No, well demure. Titus and. Welcome to the twenty nineteen Duffy awards. I'm your host Mark Titus. With me is my co host tape. Frazier tate. It is time it is the award show that the people cannot get enough of it is the second annual Duffy awards. We have how many how many categories we have here. Let me count them up. We have fourteen awards to give out today. There. It covers the whole gamut of of what you could possibly want to talk about in college basketball going into this awards season. What what is on your mind? Where's your mind at what are what are what are some of the people at home can can keep an eye on? Well, the whole entire year. We kept saying ourselves this design Williamson year everything goes back to I on Williamson. And then as we work through the terminal, of course, the Duffy's and the academy they are not done. They let things play out before they make decisions as it played out. The redemption story the comeback story on the Cavaliers the cardiac heavily ears as they are now being deemed and called pay homage. I guess to the valve auto years in the eighties. We're talking about eighty four eighty five. A lot the modern time of college basketball. And now, it's all about Virginia. So the Duffy's in the state of ages see if they've shifted the way that they think as far as handing out these awards are they still gonna give the credit design. Look you've seen the Naismith do in a lot of other everything while there were basically in college basketball decided to stick was I on the kademi, you're the Duffy academy. We will see if they follow. Or if they go Virginia and change folks as a reminder the deductions are awards for the entire season and not just the entire season the entire year. So this goes all the way back. Yes. To last April there, there are some some people eligible all the way back for full calendar year. So it will be interesting. What what do cat our attention for longer? Move virginia. Obviously won the title had a great story. There's a lot of people for God's plan to see if God's plan will be involved in this, and we should point out gospel and came out in the calendar of last year's Duffy's award. So that they were that was favourably twenty eight teen when we saw the plane come see today that we're we're recording this on Thursday. So today God's plan. I was overtaken by old town road. The old town road. Billy Ray Cyrus yesterday. Brighi hearts in streaming. And then sixty nine million streams for Drake. Yeah. I'm reading the whole day. I'm like, we are definitely living in a simulation. Yes. This is the racist sixty nine which looks like a tweet that was manufacturer just for you. And I that was coined this calendar year. So that will be up in incineration the road sixty nine s the kademi is agreeing right now. Yes. Consideration race. Six nine will be a part of this stuff award so excited to see that. I mean, you just think about being Connelly's a rice someone you may have thought was in last year's Duffy race. No, she's in this year w rates are in fact, you might just be in every race of this for a lot of lot of Rick Pitino overlap as well. He was nominated for a lot of Duffy's last year going to be nominated for something, I should Bruder film. We broke down the little do comeback. That's something to keep an eye on. I think that's something that will pop up in the world. Yeah. So we're we're going to get into it. And let's let's their people listening to have to put their kids to bed at some point. They want to get this thing going. So let's let's just do it. Let's start with our very first category tonight is the off course story of the year. Now last year this this was an award won by the FBI for all things FBI investigations. And I it was one of the most decisive wins we've ever seen in Duffy history. So definitely is not eligible for this one. The they are they are eligible, but they were not nominated. That's the first thing that stands out to me. Let's get to the nomination state. Okay. So the first nominee that we have for off court story of the year. Rick Pitino social life in Greece. I either we have Tennessee's basketball team getting Admiral Scofield to play Catan, and then them playing Catan as a team and carrying Catan with them like it was their version of LeBron's godfather book where like they have to be seen carrying Catan. So the all things Tennessee Catan. Did it see Catan next up? We have Condoleeza Rice and her. Quest to save college basketball with the rice commission. We have we'll wait and Shawn Miller being subpoenaed interesting. Yeah. So the. Subpoenas will be involved something to keep an eye on their next up. We have the UCLA coaching search, which is it done. Did is that really true? They hired Cronin. The cronies are saying yes they hired Cronin. That's just say that going into the season. I did not expect the words Virginia won the national championship. And Mick Cronin was hired at UCLA to ever come out of my mouth twenty eighteen if someone came up to you while we were sitting in front of UCLA and said to you you're watching the Cincinnati baseball game that coach right there and make krona's gonna be the coach UCLA the next calendar year. I think mine is five there's no way I would say that bet. I I don't want to say I don't like to hire. I just if I was making a list of coaches, who would be horrible horrible. Visit UCLA Cronin will be very close to the top of that list. And the great coach Huggins is probably number one. I hate it. Yeah. I his style of play does not fit UCLA his demeanor does not fit UCLA his existence. Does not faze everything about us. There's literally nothing about the guy that is look at. And I say, I mean, he. But you forget Cronin tall guy in Los Angeles. We're going to get a picture him with his real Tom Cruise Tom Cruise because this tits that he's like. Yes. All right back to the nominees will Zion. Come back from injury. Ooh. That was a big story this year. So that is one of the nominees the entire media landscape terminal that one next up we get sketchers going after Nike and Adidas that a lot of people didn't expect but sketchers back down for Adidas for the Dennis Smith thing. They're the ones who tried to. They they claimed hilas what it was a forty thousand dollars. So they like, it was wins ci- shoe exploded. And they put out an ad saying like this would never happen. They said, please, Paul George Siamese. Yes. He said who a moving on the NCAA allowing alcohol at the final four as men who have benefited from that so much great off thinking of someone else. Next up. We have Tom Izzo putting a finger in Aaron Henry's face. Which is you would say that's on the court because the finger happened on the court. But it wasn't about worry. It wasn't about the finger of the story was. A quarter of these stories of the academy is asking that we that we point out the differentiation there. So that one fits in there. That one fits in there. That's like the the them throw in the comedy in the musical and the whatever else like all in one category. You know when they do that. You're like how the hell is the show in the show, but in the same they just call it a drama. Yeah. There you of moving on John Ralston killing a mouse with the recycling bit who could forget this story when set Davis tweeted the in the CVS newsroom, a mouse was loose. And then John Ralston grabbed a recycling bin and just kill the mouse. A huge story in college basketball, people cannot stop talking about basically the light night of CVS. That's what we're saying next that we have firm and being ranked and also the military school controversy. Fine firm as someone who was a party to this the kademi I would like to appreciate them for bringing this up congressional dominated takes so much. I'm happy to be here in firm. And I mean, come on. Maybe maybe we add a military branch to the squeeze still should be a military, or is it a military school? We don't know. We don't know. We don't know. And finally, our final nominee is is i-in fat the debate that raged on I starting making August, and it was something. So those are your nominees for off course story of the year. And the Duffy goes to. Oh, by wills. I and come back from injury up said a little bit. Yeah. I would say it was. Kinda was the biggest story though. I mean, this was the thing that got like everybody that wasn't watching college basketball to pay attention and have to offer up a take in in here. Here's what I would do. And it's like, well, you have do you even know anyone else's name on Duke other than Zayn Williamson? It's like, no. But here's what I would do. Here's how he should feel about the situation. I say RJ reddish. Yeah. Right. They say like not quite so many ways. Yeah. It was exits crisis. You had to decide where you stood in the world of college basketball. And then it turns out that Zayn Williamson said, I never considered sitting out. And I was always going to come back. It was. Yeah. So that's why it was pointless in grade. And that's why one I guess. Awkward store. The it makes for a pretty good story ahead to kind of off course story of the year head to go design. I think I mean, he was he he dominated all the off court discussion. So it encore discussions is basically ever discussion. So it comes back to what was the academy going to prioritize right through one Zion one. It's duke. Yeah. We're we're seeing we're seeing that we'll see a trend happens which will move onto the next category Tate. This is the comeback of the year and the nominees include Shaun Miller's recruiting number one recruiting class after getting decimated by the FBI. He now has the number one led by Nico Manion coming in next up. We have Stony Brook down twenty two zero to start a game verse George Washington ended up waiting that game seventy seven seven eight comeback. My guy. Jeff bulls now coaching Ohio University down twenty to nothing Tate. And they came back to win our third comeback of the year is Rick Patino in Greece. So just freak Patino. General a lot of a lot of coming in back in for Rick potato. He has resurrected his career his life, his relationship with John Gonzalez helluva comeback for that guy. He came out of retirement people forget that he retired this year. He made it clear he goes on every in front of every Cameron says, I I'm definitely done coaching basketball. And then the the the poll of a of a country with legal prostitution was too much to overcome. And he said I would like to go to Greece. And it's been my time in Greece and enjoy my Christmas time and all that family time. I always been over in Greece next. We get Duke level the show Bruder film. This is the show show shoppers film. So this is basically us breaking down. How Duke could come back from such a large deficit on the road at Louisville thing. They ended up being twenty three one two points. Yes. As the second half, and they came back to beat Louisville. Pretty good comeback. Also nominated is Virginia's redemption story coming back and winning the title after losing to sixteenth seed people forget that that they did lose sixteen see last year, and they made it happen on the national championship. Pretty good comeback next. We have Iowa's tie against Tennessee. And then eventually come back a great comeback though. They got to the point where they could have won the game. They go to overtime. Tennessee finds a way to win. They they lost the game in some in a literal sense. But in a figurative sense, they also probably lost the game. But that comeback was very good and very impressive. So congratulations, Iowa on that one also nominated Tom Izzo. Mr. March label is back and wants to correct this Tom Izzo. Starring as Mr. Mark. He is now back to being Mr. March and not Mr. April. No, April, never, Mr. April. And then the final nominee in this category for comeback of the year. Jay Wright losing in the first weekend of the instability tournament. Congratulations. Right. Good to have that your back version A J right back. All right. Those are your nominees and the Duffy goes to. Got to be as a right? It's got to be. Dukes comeback at Louisville. Wow. Some people are very upset with the academy right now. Jim cutting him up producer going crazy for the academy. Now, we did do a whole episode devoted to this. I I guess. Kademi the kademi likes being apart. Yeah. This is an academy. Spelled with a k, yeah, this is not good, man. Wow. So there you go. That's a a win for Duke that we we are seeing you brought it up where we what are we going to see from the academy a lot of Duke, favoritism, and it's turning out. They may have put these votes in before the final four, they may be Mr. Marcus themselves. And also I want to put on comeback of the year. TV teddy was our comeback of the year last year and TB teddy is stronger than ever. I mean, I think a lot of people forgot that he ever even left. So just just just wanted to point out what it means to be come back of the year. You can keep things going because TV teddy has doing and and it's basically thriving head van every single level. Yes. He retired last year. When he when Joel berry broke, his heart when he did the the full Turner retired for two days back and the Rick Pitino of reveling. Yes. All right moving on to our third category. We have the hero of the year last year one by sister Jeanne, of course, who could ever forget that display of being a cult hero. Unbelievable. One for the ages. She is not nominated this year. She she is not going to defend her Duffy pure nominees. Brad calipari. Just all things Brad Calipari. He wore turtleneck on the sidelines. He would stream as fortnight games on twitch. He got into a beef with me. He took a redshirt. A lot of lot of Brad Calipari stuff going on this year. He has been nominated for quote hero of the year. He is basically God's plan as a person next up. We have Jim boeheim pissing his pants while being the number one team in the nation on the road that number one team happened to be Duke Jim bay. I'm never nor never denied that. He puts his pants. There's a chance that he definitely pissed his pants definitely pissed. His definitely pisses paints. Colour the G behind doing that coaching through adversity and getting a win on the roots? Yeah, he he he pissed his pants while beating the number one team in the country. It's incredible. It's it's no one can tell you shit when you're doing it. So it's almost like he was just an alpha move. They can't do shit where they can't tell you. Third. We have Jimmy dykes country music career who could forget pl- play the song Publicis play a little bit. Let's let's remind the people. All right there. It is rocket a little heartbeat. Jimmy dykes. Thank you for telling the world, I explained into the world that you want recorded the song. So we could find it. And I were and then we're hearing from the academy. There will be a remix old town road Jimmy dykes on that remix. What Billy Ray Cyrus, they've cut out little NAS action. And now the two of them talking about their achey brick yards. Next off the academy has nominated Alaskan Calipari for those that don't know Mark few called Brad's brother. I believe it's someone in the cockpit fan. Oh, yes. It is. It is coach Calipari man that who was challenged by Mark view, Gonzaga's own March Mark fee to say that he wouldn't last very long in Alaska little did. He know that coach Cal Perry watches all of the Alaskan shows adores us. Yes. It wants to be a a wilderness expert like bear Grylls and go up to a lab. Watch Grey's anatomy ipso facto I could do brain research. Search another nominee is the race to sixty nine all things sixty nine here on one shiny podcast, the racist sixty nine had it's it's I it became a mean created by Tate, it it it it really took off this year and it culminated with a sixty eight sixty eight tie heading into overtime that was broken by Virginia and the national championship game. And then Virginia went on to win the national championship. So the race to sixty nine was on the the it was on a the brightest stage in college basketball, and some will say that the races and always work out. Well, that is not the rule of sixty nine. It is the race to nine and sometimes those who get off I will win sometimes those who. Don't will not we saw that early in the season with Tennessee Kansas going to overtime game bright Tennessee gets off so loses. But we learned that Tennessee. Sometimes it just they break do their own thing. And they had their own rules. Next up the academy is nominated. John Moran cult hero hero. Yeah. This is this is usually the guys who aren't as good or just kind of have some quirky about them. I I don't know what the academy was thinking here. Maybe like, I guess everyone loved him. But no one actually watched him play because he was playing at Murray state and has gained from around TV that much. Maybe that's it that that there's this aura of job Mirant, even though no one could really explain it. Because he didn't really seem play. Just kinda saw the highlights. Interesting. Interesting nomination. It's similar to me last year. We had swaggie pool where a lot of people just saw the shot against Houston. And they saw a couple of highlights of Michigan has ever making there. Right. So they decided who swaggie pool was they didn't watch much in the year. So we'll we'll do it the same vein as that another nominee is Bill Walton for eating his the lit cupcake live on the air when Dave Pasch told him to do it. And he just did it. It was a great moment. Bill. In history. So he's been nominated for quote here. Another great moment. Bill one history at baggage claim with us as we flew back. Final four. He wasn't baggage claim. Yes, he did not notice light as he didn't say next up. The academy is Mojo Williams for going to a concession stand at Pepperdine and getting a hot dog at halftime of a game. And again, mo- Williams on staff with Mark Godfrey Jim Herrick we were at that game at halftime. But wombs a man of the people goes over to the concession stand and assistant coach at Cal State Northridge stood in line during halftime behind us behind us to get a hot dog to get a hot dog and then chat with us while eating said hot dog during halftime, cold heroes basketball game, MO Williams. Great move. We also have the academy has nominated for coal here of the year. The guy who had the perfect bracket through the Sweet Sixteen and then his bracket fell apart and he finished in only like the ninetieth percentile, and he didn't even win his pool. But through the six sixteen had perfect bracket which was like on heard of and has never been done before. So gonna happen to that guy who got to do a bunch of interviews for like one day. Yeah. Congratulations next up. We get Matthew, mcconaughey. As minister of culture for Texas. We saw them in the Kansas state bench. He was getting in the huddles. He was basically calling plays. And he was wearing a burnt orange blazer and basically became a caricature of himself as if he was in. We are Marshall McCain we are Texas, and he probably at this point. Maybe a better coach of the Texas longhorns. Oh, we also have nominated mcnicol on. I'm not really sure we need to elaborate on that one. I think everyone knows what Mike McLaughlin has been nominated rumor started. He was refreshed. Cousin? Bruce, we still don't know. No one right here. Just because gyms on the room. He is Tristan jazz's cousin. Ooh. Jess. And I like it. There you go. The academy improves Jim magma clung nominated, and then the final nominee that we have in this category for coat hero, Lavelle Moton and coach of the NC central eagles. He put out a, quote, a tweet in response to them saying that in central will be scared to I on they had no chance by I am because they lost in the first four. But he said, I fear. God not man love it. Didn't he also after Virginia one? He tweeted lake we will win and Ezra national championship. I I made the same promise to Chicago state. And they didn't hire me. So I had to see someone coach moats on make it happen. All right. So those are your coal hero the year nominees and the Duffy goes to all man, I'm nervous. Mac. No hold on. Oh, I read that wrong Matt's. It's Matthew, mcconaughey. Hey, as the minister of culture for Texas. Good for good for him right now. Trying to fried right. Everyone said the Bikaner since was done. But it's obviously not he has edited Duffy to his his mantle. This is this is big for him. Have you have you ever seen the movie surfer, dude? I've not surfer comma, dude, it's it's what he Harrelson Matthew, mcconaughey. Matthew, mcconaughey is playing a professional surfer Lilia Malibu for anyone that wants to enjoy themselves. And I think Nancy McConnell should honestly watch surfer, dude. To celebrate. His Duffy awards. So congratulations, become a minister of culture, Texas, and now a coat hero. And a Duffy winner. There we go. This is exciting stuff. Well, I can't believe it was a lot. I can't believe it didn't go to some somebody having something to do with Duke moving right along. We have our fourth category. The backdrop of the year. This was last year one by Williamson huge huge news when Zeid. Williamson committed to Duke the nominees for backdrop of this year of two thousand nineteen to last calendar year are the following Romeo link for to Indiana, which you know, there's this is a this is a case of the calendar situation. Tasty was technically for this. He played this year, obviously. But he committed so late in the process. It was after last year's Duffy. So that falls into this year's backdrop in the backdrop is not even about production at some level. It's about the stir in about what it does. So you're saying this is the he's the favorite problem saying we'll link for when it happened. We thought that Indiana basketball was back yet put it out to the world whilst. Most outstanding player. Date not the college. Carson Edwards is playing. Well. Yeah. Determine so Indiana's back in. Yeah. He's he's the first nominee Romeo waiting for the next time either we have for backdrop of the year. Isaiah Stewart to Washington five star big man five star Big Ben could get getting it done. We saw was a big story. Final four comer to support has guys out there. We have James Wiseman to Memphis penny. Hardaway makes it getting it done on immediately. How did that happen? Who knows how did that possibly happen? How could that have had how could that have happened to penny? Hardaway just becomes the coach. And immediately lands. Toby's been get them. Go to highpoint know how. We'll figure it out next up next nominee. We have Anthony Edwards going to Georgia. This obviously is a guy that compared himself to DeWayne. Wade. Gotta compared with Celtic Trillo depot, and therefore he's going to play for Dwayne Wade's bench buddy last night in his last game in the NBA. His bench, buddy. What'd you say bitch? Okay, buddy. All right, then. Two words sitting on the bench with him last sentence. Final home game in Brooklyn that is of course, the coach of the Georgia BULLDOGS. Mr. Tom Crean time creeds, Anthony Edwards, go to Georgia big bad drop, their another nominee for backdrop of the year is Texas A and M getting buzz Williams to come to his al-matar. That's not actually his alma mater, but we're gonna pay you. We're gonna pay you so much fucking money that you're going to pretend like this is your modern you could sell it. As though it is your modern. And we won't we won't make the story that you're just taking a ton of money could be easily just be someone up at stands, right, Dan. Pull for these guys. Yep. That's the buzz Williams, and then the final nominee for backdrop of the year is the AA giving student athletes free wifi is that allowed. I dunno. Wow. They gave the students free wifi. That's a big backdraft my pick. And that's gotta be the win. Let's see what the academy says though. Yes. And the Duffy goes to oh, no. Romeo Lankford to Indiana. Wow. Not a not a not a pick that ultimately worked out in the way, we thought it was going to when he committed. But as you said, I think that hoopla around is probably what factored into this decision. The bag drop has nothing to do with stats. The one thing that we can do in this program where we can cut out the stats nerds. You know, what I mean, this is about what you were valued at what the evaluation is amongst the recruiting circles. Right. And then you decided to go to a program that sorta out a little bit out there a little shy. What are you saying? Indiana shocking for Indiana, Mr. basketball to go to India. I mean unbelievable. Hey, the hoopla read Romeo Lankford was one of the maybe the biggest recruit in Indian history. Just in terms of the hoopla for a lot of reasons wasn't. He wasn't the best player. I don't think anyone thought he was the best player in Indiana history. But you needed the optics, but he had the yes Archie taken over and beat a Mr. basketball dragging out his recruitment for a long time. Vanderbilt being the what most people thought that he would go. Vanderbilt, you know, and and go down with shimmy and all these other guys. And now, you know, Bryce, drew no longer there. There is Romeo link for congratulations. You did not make the NCAA tournament. But you didn't want Duffy. So who's the real winner here a moving onto my favorite category? And of all the Duffy's. This is one that was famously won by Mark schlabach last year for his coverage of the Shawn Miller wiretaps release the tapes, Mark please release. It is the excellence in journalism Duffy, this is the most competitive field. We have every single year. And this year is no different your nominees are whoever started the rumor that riffraff is Mack McLarty cousin. Sam cunningham. Oh, sure. And and perpetuated that rumor for like, months and months and months, and then we come to find out that they've probably never even actually met. It was early riffraff that put that out ref wanted to MAC mcclain's cudgeon cousins. So we're glad that that worked out the next nomination for excellence in journalism Kyle guys letters to himself on Facebook. You don't remember this cow guy wrote letters to himself after the loss of UNBC promising that the Virginia Cavaliers would make a run they would win the national championships. And he would get fouled in the final four games at the buzzer. But then make three free. It was crazy such a specific letter. He nailed it. And people are wondering why we believe in time machines. Yeah. Yeah. It could have happened knows. They're awesome. Awesome letters. He wrote about his struggles with things -iety kind of all the motions. It was. It was really it was really cool to read it in the moment. And then take they went out. They went out and won the national championship announced. This like I said on the podcasts like during the tournament. This is the Tim tebow thing where it's like you will not see a quarterback charter like they should they should frame this these letters and put them all over was John Paul Jones arena. Okay, called Jesse Jesse. Yeah. Anyway, congrats to Cal guide nominated for for that moving on Rupatini entire media empire. He created the book that he wrote the podcast. He started spots. Let's let's the Twitter account the tweet os, just all the journalism. Rick Pitino was doing we have nominated him for that. Well, that's -gratulations to Rick Pitino on yet another nomination. I mean, the academy really loves Rick Patino next up the next nomination for excellence in journalism. We have Jay Williams the artist formerly known as Jason Williams saying Duke could beat the Cavaliers he said this right before Duke went on to lose to guns aga- playing in the Maui invitational. And the Cavs went on to beat the seventy Sixers and the rock and remember the sued two very good teams of the NBA. If you don't keep up with the NBA and the next two games. Congratulations day journal, literally the exact same day said Duke loss, Gonzaga, isn't it the Cavs one? They'd be to playoff Dave's in a row. It was it was the classic Alabama beat the Browns, and it was trying to do that with his Duke team up, and and it's gone. Moving on ESPN's coverage of Duke has been nominated for excellence in journalism Duffy from the candidate or to the earn everything to all things. I Williamson to Jay Williams saying, I guess this is kind of overlap. It's an interesting that the J J clinic. Clinic with the moments that it had to be separated. I appreciate the kademi for doing. There you go. All right. Well, there's there's the other nominee next stuff. We have the next for excellence in journalism. We have CBS Zion came love this camera. Loved it loved being able to see nothing but Zion for two straight hours. That is what I tune in for when I watch basketball. Congratulations CBS on the nomination. There. Also wanna nominate the guy who film coach K light. The guy who filled coach K lighting the minora during Hanako duke's campus, coach K gave like the weirdest sound bites. You've ever heard of. Oh my God. Please go look at that video the academy does not provide a right now. But, but it will definitely be out in the world you'd go check that out. It also led to me bringing up the story of the Maccabi embossing it. So I appreciate the kademi awarding coach K for that moment. And the guy who filmed it next up the next nominee for excellence journalism, we have grand couch, a friend of the program leaving the top three teams off the ballot. And then telling us he doesn't even want his AP vote. And this is why this has to be this is the funniest moment in in college basketball media when he was honored podcast, and the whole reason we have him on to defend his ballot. And he was he had so much honor in his ballot. In like, here's why I'm so principled in structured. And I've really thought about this, and I have this algorithm and on and on and on and he so he defends why leaves the top three teams in the country off of his ballot completely. And then he slips into there at the end. He's like, I don't even want to stupid vote. I've been trying to get rid of it for years. To perfect that is that is journalism at its finest also nominated for excellence in journalism is LeBron's HBO documentary called student athlete where he explained to the to the American people that college athletes are not paid. But this is crazy. And this is what I learned to this documentary the adults like the administrators in the NCAA themselves. They're actually making a lot of money. Yes. From from college sports. So very eye opening stuff there from the Brian James. We really appreciate that this documentary enlightened us through the the recruiting decision made by Nick Richards to go to play basketball Kentucky, we learned that he went to Kentucky because he likes the color blue light blue. Yes. So I thank you for that journalism next up next time he for excellence journalism. We have Jay Bilas calling the head of the Alabama High School Athletic association to tell him he's wrong. He's wrong about inch wrong may aura may Ori may ory. Devon for may already Davenport. Yeah. The the the yeah. The we we remember that saga. The the remember the sagas was deemed an. Jay wrote this long he writes, his long article where he's quoting the the Alabama High School Athletic association, stricter because he he called them. It was like, sir. Explain yourself. It's wrong. It's wrong. So great journalism. They're j get on the phones next nominee is Michael avenues tweet. You gotta say, right. It's not as he calls himself like Godley. Oh, he's. Like, I got. All right. Our next nominee is Michael Nadi. I've really he would be. I want him on the podcast. Explain that what he said. So we need to treat them, right? His his tweet, read and Duke dot dot com. That is now he's tweeted a lot of stuff. He said a lot of stuff. But the cabbie says. Canopy was clear that the only thing being nominated is his one three said and Duke dot dot dot. Yes. So great journalism there. We really appreciate that. I I appreciate the specificity of the academy as well. I appreciate them being very specific. With all things. The next time we have for excellence in journalism as a colleague of ours. A main who came on the program with us. Mr John Gonzalez, traveling all the way to Greece to hang out with his best, buddy. Coach Rick Pitino. Unbelievable job wrote a great story on Rick Pitino gay gay. Give us a lot of nuggets. Go back and listen to that podcast if you ever listened to folks also nominated is the holy trinity of backdrop journalism over at. Yahoo. Pat, forty Pete Thamel and Dan Wetzel for just they keep they keep stoking the flames and keep this thing alive for us. We really appreciate that where the work they're doing every so often I need to see that gavel in that basketball on the top of a story on Yahoo. And it just keeps me alive. You know, if I go too long without it. I I needed a sustenance. And they're they're keeping the wheels. Turn and we really appreciate this. Speaking of sustenance that goes through our next nominee. Excellence in journalism, and that is the former athletic director, four your NC state will pack. No, a AD that thrived on the pack pride message boards. An ADA Debbie Yow who came out and explain what NC states should be in the tournament. And she said that they were eight nine against tier one and two two teams didn't mention the fact that they had lost all the tier one teams. That'd be in the two teams, and you know, had a few grammatical error errors in the peace with theirs, and you know, all sorts of other things, but for the most part wwl goes on and explains why NC state should be in the term in the funniest part of the whole thing. Now looking back, and I'm looking at the kademi now is all burn the best win that they had for their resume. And it's something that they argued throughout the year that that was a good win. And they run here. Here them all her one of the final four with Chuma. Who knows maybe they win the national championship? So NC state would completely validated vindicated. And so would Debbie, Al? So congratulations, wwl excellence in journalism. You were right writing a letter saying we should be in the tournament was and then stepping down in med stuffing. Finally, our final nominee is Mike francesa Saint. Saint Virginia will never win. A title would never won a national championship there style cannot work in March. It will never work. He said this two months before they won a national championship. So congratulations to all the nominees refused to acknowledge that. He's still refusing still refusing tied Jerome goes on his program, and he still refuses. Congratulations to all the nominees. That's an exterior can only be one winner in. The Duffy goes to. Kyle guys letters on Facebook. Wow. Wow. You know, it makes a lot of sense. It's a great story. It agrees. It full circle. What he's calling in. Oh in here to accept his award in. We have Kyle guy calling it here to accept his award is the man himself. Kyle guy. All right here to accept his Duffy award is the man the myth alleged himself. The most outstanding player in the twenty nineteen in say tournament Tate. I all I cannot believe that this has happened. And it cannot believe we we have him on the line. Our guy our guy the guy Kyle guy national champion Kyle guy. That's the first thing. I want to ask you Kyle is how does that sound that to know that for the rest of your life people be like national this national champion Cal? You should just introduce yourself to people's that. Man. I wish I could. But that's not that's not horrible. It doesn't feel real to be on a, you know, I'm very fortunate to being this is chanted. I'm really happy. But again, it really doesn't even feel real yet. I know that it must be not to win. A duffy. That's obvious. The acceptance award. It doesn't feel real. But going back to that you wrote the letter to yourself. I mean, obviously, we know the whole story about the sixteen seat in the redemption that comes from that. But you write these letters and you come back to the national championship game in you, you get validated vindicated. Whatever word you wanna use. But what was the what was that process for you to actually write those letter to yourself to be decide to put them public to publicly publish them in all that. So you know, when you guys are really going to be good this year. I can go for national championship. Right. Right. Right. Basically, you know on expect from last year. Fancier probably bigger deal down, and she knows her idea to whom the public. So I, you know, little scared. It would be received. But it went really, well, I'll be glad I did it. Hopefully, how few people along the way and to to you know, go through that lowest. And then, you know, very next year set a goal to to be on the highest of high to accomplish that. It's unbelievable. It all worked out did you? So you you were leaning into the UNBC thing all year too. Because we were falling you on on Twitter, your profile picture was the the picture view. You know, kind of just being sad about the loss. You re tweet and everything when when do try to have K J J March to the game. You're you seem to really embrace that was there any part of you. I mean, obviously that was fuel for your run to the title. And and I I mean, you can stop me if I'm wrong. But I think if you guys don't lose you and B C, you probably don't win the national championship. There's I'm sure there's a lot of that going on. But that any small part of you in the back of your mind think what if this goes wrong? What if like like, what would this look like if I'm leading into the UNBC thing or because it because you just felt so confident about it the whole year that like this is this happened for a reason we're going to use this for good, but Tate, and I were were were always like wondering like man, I hope this works out for him. Because if they if they lose again or something happens like, I shudder to think how sad he'll be. Oh, did that enter your mind? You know, to be honest, not really I think we really trying to embrace what happened. And I mean, she said a bench, which I've you'd it. Forget it and confident, and you know, not show way, you know, he knew immediately big deal about it anyways. And of course, it was the first time I've ever happened, and we on the wrong side. But we made it a point that we wanted to get the right side of his shoes this year. And. Yeah. Coaches views that that kind of monitor the whole year that if you using versity rain everybody, you take it to a place done don't any other way. So you're right about sure that we'd be one of those championship without that happening. But it's all we had, you know, a most faithful wins, and then we had faith in it. It'll have the media, and how much fun have you had I know tied Jerome. You know, your boy ties been going. You don't friend says side had some words, you know, how much how much fun of you guys had just watching all the media members who have said for genie can't win playing this type of basketball. These guys aren't good enough to do it. In March ties been having the baseline ties having a great time to watch all these guys eat crow. I mean is there a little bit of satisfaction that I know that's not the main reason, but it has to be a little bit fun because you guys obviously have been so good for so long. I think it was eighty five and nineteen six seasons for junior and the ACC the best conference of basketball. So you obviously knew how good you are the whole time. But then finally to see and get to this point. I mean, I it's got to be enjoyable at some level, right? Yeah. Absolutely. We are having fun with airtran cherished moment. You know, obviously, we've had people down as aren't tire live. That's a mention just UVA. So cozy gets the most shit at anybody. You know to be able to share his means a lot, you know, they say we've been wondering March not I can't take this away from her. So definitely join it. You know, I don't know, you know, tie tries to be very like can point with his what are you saying that, you know, freezing cold takes very so that was awesome to see. But I'm sure we'll have plenty of opportunities to continue doing that. I wanna I wanna go through the run to the national championship that this was beyond the story of you guys last year and this year and all that stuff. Like, no matter the name on the front jerseys. This would have been one of the greatest runs ever, regardless of all the other stuff. So I just wanna talk about like the basketball games, and the actual run that you guys go on and you're down at halftime to Gardner Webb. What was it like in the locker room at halftime, knowing what happened last year and? Is that even on your minds is you know, what what what was what was that whole scene like a halftime because outside of the as I'm sure, you know, outside all of us watching like Twitter's going nuts. Everyone's losing their minds like is it happening again? But what was it like for you guys that first game absolutely said? I mean, you know, it was in our heads. We were like, wow, this like, you know, it could happen again. And it was an all of our minds. But I think we did a better job this year of panicking. Last season. We gonna do about ten fourteen the same. I just you know, trying to make a home run. So they they're make up for it. We start paying cane, and you just never get in the groove, and it really effective. But this year, we say rep business buckle down. Let's floor. The ball. Bounce way. We started hit some China. I think it's so and then we started seeing the Virginia brand of basketball that you guys have played forever. As far as like dominating running through, the ACC that started, you know, happening. But as we get to the Purdue game against the elite eight game, you're going against the guy Carson Edwards who seemingly cannot miss. I mean, he is everything he throws up in this in the in the air goes in obviously, you know, a little bit about the produce situation. And that whole, you know, university trying to get over the hump you're in Indiana guy, Mr. basketball from Indiana. And I decided to ask you about the past that key Clark. When he throws it up, the Florida d- Keesee there at the end you were open. You are open con-. You were open. Kyle did did you want the ball there? Where you magic Lori and make the past yet your clutch. Guys like what what's happened? Absolutely, no tension. You know, he looked me off of like, well, I mean, it's a little Ben's little child that are making good place. And then he looked off tie. He was open to and just throw rifle the mama Mamadee. And you know, when you think of like Virginia hidden, you know game whether you would think, you know, tire drei on myself and. Unlikely heroes ended up being you know, to the best players aren't even to the main reasons why we weren't. And that's accident say agree. Oh tournament long, and they break some stuff up the turn in the championship. You know, we were getting as much guys we got all year and that was actually playing against Carson Edwards, and knowing he was making everything. And then on the other end you're hot for most of that game. And it felt like we were I was worried as I was watching just because I just worry all the time when I watch basketball. But like I was like man, I hope Kyle doesn't try to match with Carson Edwards doing how do you resist that to to where you start getting hot? And then you're playing against Carson Edwards who's making literally everything he's throwing up. So how do you on your in try to one up him or say like I can shoot just as well. I'm just as hot. How do you resist that temptation, we've been fighting certain ways the whole year front-office best or through? Through shouted even when people are on fire. You know, if it means making extra past, and, you know, we do that doesn't mean we don't eat check every once, but you know, cards and I wanted to bench performances, and they were witness. They were seen been part of so, and then you create any part was that we were playing very good defense on him for the most part us, not hitting. Shouldn't be soon, you know, Kasit hands all monkey knows this crazy, but for jingle withstand that that blew all game. You know, make something happen and wanted to overtime once a testament to their growth from last year that was like the worst game in Indiana basketball history. I think for for fans of I you to watch an Indian Mr. basketball going nuts day against Purdue that that was tough all my family from Indiana. It was just like man, this is this is a really tough watch. So I have to ask you because every other great recruit from Indiana that we've had on this podcast. It's the question. Everyone wants to know is why did you not go to Indiana. And you don't have to liberate that much. But I have to do my journalistic duty an Esa question. Yeah. So you know, I was a kid obviously grew up. There's you know, three things on your mind. It's you know, basketball. It's when initial venture brought on it. You know, going how you came starts on. Obviously, there's in my mind, and I would have loved to play home. I love coach painter and really enjoyed team. I love that you, you know, Butler just didn't really have the coaching stability I wanted. So I just knew that there's going to be feeling in my stomach when I was at the right place. You know when when when? Notes, but the jury still out on whether you made the rent decision to I don't know if this is gonna work out or no. Let's go. How about the what what other games you gotta talk to Auburn Auburn game because it's funny talking about Indiana, then you've got tie being in New York. And you talk about the Indiana Pacers in the New York Knicks. We remember Reggie Miller points in nine seconds. When while the new story is now get six points and five seconds. Which is what you did. You know, you hit the big three the first three to kind of get you keep you guys in the game. Then of course, remember the file foul. When Samir doubt he goes up and you hit the three free throws. Can you walk us through? I mean, I in your mind being done on that game. Obviously you've just been down the Purdue game. You guys have gotten over that hump and made it happen. But to hit the three before and then to go up as you're as you're going up for that final three. Did you expect to get the whistle? Once you heard the whistle. Did you even hear the whistle? And then when you go to the free throw line, you know, you have to make three free throws. What was that process like has banned watching the two of us? I mean, we're losing our minds people thought that we were real Virginia fans of that point. We have we're just pulled for cow guy to come through on the biggest you. You know, coach caller great play. We've been running this little, you know, elevator action. Come on from screen at the top of team and run a corner shooting that for for three years now. So the Charlotte's comfortable with and I hit it, and obviously things had to go our way they missed the free throw. And then you know, when he plants the ball run, another plenty of that. We always have it. Our back pocket was either today underneath the basket stealing banners for meeting corridor night, kind of broke loose. They tried to talk me. So I went to stream as opposed to over it. And I got a shot called on. I'm just thinking. Like, right. This is my chance, you know. Again. What do you do when you when you live in Indiana, and you think about making the big shots team? And then when we specialize stuff so yeah, everything's racing racing through my head. But I actually wanted to kind of relish, what was what was it stake? I wanted to know that they're, you know, seventy five thousand people watching and more on TV like I wanted to know what the with the would admit, and I kinda just told myself, I'm either one of you read it. So there's there's no tiny in my head. Sixty three sixty two. So you did it. I'm I'm honestly, getting chills. This religion it through like I. Yeah, I'm trying not to I can't imagine. What it must be like to be you guys. Because I I've been I don't know. I I've just been fall the Virginia ark for so long and fallen you like I talk on the show all the time like take it any anybody to play in Indiana, just has my heart forever. And I will always cheer for Indiana guys. So just like the fact that you go to Virginia, and I kind of liked the Virginia style like just fall on the whole thing gives me I cannot imagine what it must be like to be like it worked out, dude. Like, I don't know. I trust you understand that. But there's going to be a point in your life. Maybe a month from now two months from now three months from now or you're just like a ten years from now, you look back, and you're like, I can't believe that all worked out like you lose sixteen seat, and you just build this whole thing. Like, we're going to get stronger from this. We're going to go on the rafting trip. That was was we can come to make sure how did that picture come about com? The the whitewater rafting trip that is now becoming like the the pivotal moment. In in Virginia basketball lower. You want us to forget. Ghosts is just you know, trying to do whatever it took to the mic us closer as a team, obviously, it'd be able to move past land. And we did a lot of stuff like that. He, you know, he swears he was laying in the river, which not you know, by radically was one of the oldest members and the entire world. The new river has called or something. You know, you use point of reference, but he was just thinking about what this team could accomplish. And then we get to Minneapolis. Thank you. This paddle the faced four on it. And he's a all man, this is fine. And then we, you know, fight. I saw them ESPN. We're down like three or more with fifteen things left in all of our last three D And tended a wedding. So it was just a testament to our residency. It's unbelievable. I I. Yeah. I don't know, man. We couldn't be happy for you. It was incredible run. I'm so astounded. I mean, you talked about all the different kinds of heroes. I mean de'andre hunter when he hits that through you guys are down three to sixty eight sixty five and when tie goes, and he's going to the basket made you think he's going to go for two there, or or is that or is that something that you got everything seems so composed and calm and every decision and when Thai kicks it out and de'andre hit set three and we're going to overtime. I mean, even the time out when you tried to call time out in the ball goes out of bounds. I mean running through how did you guys kind of you kept composure in every situation. It always felt like every every moment was the big moment. And yet there was somehow another bigger moment on the other side of it throughout the national championship game. But I guess since you had been there. Right. The it worked out. Yeah. It's insane. All the things that you know, kind of had to go, right? That's why I recall it March madness. You know all year. We did a great job of trying to from all the way down throw. That's play are here. Trying to calm. It's contagious destroyed. Their, you know, stay calm when their pressure and make the res make plays and they were it up in the back out drove list of all year just as tournament. But it was definitely on full display within three weeks. You guys basically became the cardiac Cavaliers? Kinda like that entering pot. All right. Thank you so much Kyle. We we will let you get back. Go get some sleep go go walk around Charlottesville, just wave at people. How what what's happened like you just walking around? I'm sure it's just you guys are Rockstars. You're already Rockstars on that campus. I know, but it has that been enjoyable experience or you starting getting exhausted from it either. Either the territory in. Now, I want do a message. Ahead. Stay after if you can't classes, but take some pictures. It's all worth it. Where are you going to put your Duffy when we send it to you put it next outstanding player trophy? That has a fun talk show. All right, man. Thanks so much. I'm going to be in Charlottesville and Saturday for the for the party. So I'll be the guy. I'll be the guy waving at you say Kyle Kyle. So if you hear someone trying to get your attention, that's me. No enjoy the celebration man soak this in for not just today. Not just this week the rest of your life through like, this is this story is unbelievable. It's incredible. We were ruined for you every step of the way. And it really means a lot that in the wake of your celebration. You take some time to talk to us. So thanks me. We're gonna we're gonna we're gonna have to figure out the what we do. We I don't know if you're aware we do a cow guys on the podcast where we give the update on what you're up to. And I think it might be time to retire. I think this is the pinnacle of it. He came on the potty won most outstanding player too. I think that might be you wear efficient Takao guy of this pocket and how? Oh, man, great. I've heard things about deal. Thanks. Thank you. Thank you for listening to put one of one Cherney podcasts. Second annual Duffy awards. We'll be back next week with our conclusion featuring such awards as headline of the year coach K disciple of the year. Good guy of the year Bagai of the year coach of the year player of the year and even guest of the year, which better be me. Jim Cunningham, and we also have a very special in memoriam segment to be sure to listen next week.

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Top Fictional Basketball Players, A Final Goodbye to Haarms Hair, and other Quarantine Thoughts

Titus & Tate

1:17:50 hr | 7 months ago

Top Fictional Basketball Players, A Final Goodbye to Haarms Hair, and other Quarantine Thoughts

"Today's episode of Titus Indeed. We will be going over the Fox. Sports Ultimate Fan Bracket College Basketball Edition. Tonight hosted the selection show on Saturday. In case you missed it. Uh-huh Fox is Fox's putting together. They are putting together they already have put together tate a bracket to determine basically the best fans of college basketball. And we did A. They gave us an entire hour. Airtime to talk about it and We're going to talk about a little bit on here too. Yeah we were very honored. We had Tuxedos only addressed the nines. Even though we were at our house during the quarantine able to get on F S One. We were able to break down. His entire bracket this entire entire scheme is based on twitter which is You know usually. There's like a battle between basketball people and twitter people. You know what I mean. This is one of the Times that we could come together. Bring it together and now we have fan base going crazy and people are already voting which is amazing. Yeah it's great it's great quarantine content idea And we'RE GONNA WE'RE GONNA spend a little time going over some funny things that are going on right now and just start thoughts on the whole thing but but the real meat potatoes this. We have dirty laundry coming update. Have we have a couple of stories ever sitting in that are pretty good? We're GONNA read We have our top five fictional basketball players. You're excited about this. So the fans are sending in ideas for lists for us to do and This was one of them until you. It's like I wanNA definitely do this. So you and I are going to go over our five favorite fictional basketball players. It's funny because it's still related to our top five basketball movies in reality so it's kind of a Yoda I like to do. I never liked to be the same on any list. You know what I mean. I like to have a listen. Someone says these really line up like we're GONNA fill out the entire brackets day and I was like I'm not GonNa have to go to the final four even though we did our final four picks and I have to go into the final four. I never liked to keep it. Same but Yeah are tough fictional characters. I can't wait to see who have let me guess Tom. Cruise and cocktail will alert the the joy of a Mickey List on the Internet. Is that if you do the obvious list your Dick for just like wow real real original buddy wow while shawshank redemption godfather your favorite movies well how And then if you come out and say like listen. Point break is my favorite movie. Then everyone's like. Oh my God what is wrong with this guy? Nydia in your stupid so no matter what you lose. That's why you know. Listen I don't want to say that we are heroes for putting our necks out there and making lists but if someone else wants to say I won't stop them honestly. Let's hope let's hope it's one of these fictional basketball players. You know what I mean because that would be great because that would really though so. We're going to do that today. We have some other straight thoughts. I'm basically I'm going to be honest. I I want to turn the show into just a distraction from the news of the day. Which is every Ohio state basketball players transferring out of the program Tate? I really don't WanNa talk about it and I don't WanNa read reminded of it so let's not do that. Let's find other things to talk about. I would do all right. It is Monday April sixth. We are still in quarantine in our respective homes in Los Angeles one place. We are not is Atlanta. Georgia for the National Championship would should have been taking place tonight. Your thoughts I want. I'm going to be controversial and say I wish I wish college basketball is still going on. I wish we were in Atlanta and I wish we were crying national tonight. I wish yeah. Those are good thoughts because I wish Jim Nance right now was you know getting his tie loosened up to take off and give to his most outstanding player of the final four to award a team like we saw last year with. Tony Bennett With Virginia. Wa. Who's getting revenge? Getting their title in Minnesota. It was really funny. I was going through this weekend and I. You know you lose track of time. I'm like Oh my God it Saturday. This'll be final. Four Saturday than I look at my facebook and it's a time lapse from a year ago. And it's you and it's it's our good old friends Dalvand Cook and Derrick rose and Thad Young Hodge Gibson. And they're all just hanging out with us and we're judging it dunk contest and that was just a mere three hundred sixty five days ago and now like you said a year later we have no final four. Were not in Atlanta we. We don't even have the three on three. I saw a little clip of Justin right foreman from last year in the Rotunda in the mall of America. Just right for cutting somebody up and scoring the thrills re is it officially canceled. I think officially gets so we will not be doing the dosage. He's lounge for the three postpone. I thought they hadn't called it yet. I thought it would be great. So Augusta National Masters. They announced that the Augusta's going to have the event November nine. Th through the fifteen. It would be great if the three extra years like we will also have been like not really knows what time line is actually reality. Just throw out already pick dates. So maybe maybe they'll do that. That's her do you think we can like move holidays? Is that possible? Can Yes can Memorial Day. Like actually be moved is that is that something that can happen. I guess why not right. Like what if the government came out and said like removing Memorial Day to August Labor Labor Day Labor Day's reversed? I'll be honest. I'm still in denial about college basketball about the about the season being. I don't know it's It's I I still like. It makes sense. It's like if you're making a list of the hundred craziest things that are the the hundred most unbelievable turn of events in the world or I can't believe this is the new normal that we live in a college basketball being canceled. Probably in the top one hundred I understand but at the same time like I. I don't know it's just bizarre. It's like yeah. There's not going to be a national champion. And that's that's very obvious to say but it's still not really sunk in that I will be telling my kids will be like in twenty twenty we. Yeah we didn't have. A national champion is very very strange. Did you have any update on the Your pursuit define national champions like you were on the beat of the all the theoretical teams hanging banners all the outlets that are claiming that these teams would have wine the simulations going on we have any updates. Is they're running algorithms or anything so the ball is out and we're still trying to find like what court is Actually. GonNa do a rule here. You know what I mean like. No one knows who is actually the GONNA come out and say like we said. We've seen the Senate Florida decision with Florida State. The last Simulation I saw rand was by analytics lab that works with Nike up in Portland and they ran their simulation guests who want oh my goodness. The Oregon ducks and Pritchard was the most outstanding player so that was probably the best update. I Have Oregon. Would've won in this Analytics Simulation of the tournament. I will say this I think eventually as time wears on and we get into maybe say in July early August in the fodder is kind of you know oiling over teams are claiming championships like John. Calipari as tires. Maxie Announces Today on twitter. That he's leaving to go to the NBA and cows. Basically saying this kid would have been standing with me with Jim. Nance on this day today. You know what I mean getting a tie. It represented the knife championship for the wildcat. So I think we're as that continues to spiral out of control. Maybe there's a chance that someone will say you know. Kansas is the number one team this year. We crowned them the defacto champions. I think there's a real chance because of so many people. Claiming at title is Is the Helms Foundation? Still a thing. We get them resurrected tonight like the the people that were dishing out. Titles that That this is what they're four right is they. They go back and Carolina couple titles. Right you guys get nineteen twenty four. Thank you for your call. Nine hundred forty four national champions in nineteen seventy six seven titles. You know what I mean. Because a lot of people in twenty-seven takes title but that was the seventh title on the Nineteen Twenty. Four team was dead when they were crowned National Chair. Hey damage still counts. That's only four. Here's what I say. We do say we do the the ultimate fan bracket that we're doing here. I say That's right we gotta add that to the list with. Everyone's this thing should be national champion if you're new to the program if we're not understand what's going on if you missed it on Saturday when when Kate and I were on TV. We're looking great at IRA. We were sitting exactly where we're sitting right now. We're just wearing Texas mom. We laid out the bracket. Here's so here's how this works It's basically just a vote. Were everyone's they. Fox wanted to build a bracket. Why leave it up to? Lake Bozos like us to argue over who the best fan bases are. Why not just like let the fans show out and vote. So the vote is happening at C B B on Fox The way the bracket was picked. I actually love this idea tate. And I'm not saying this because I came up with you because you and I did not come up with this idea wonders facilitating the host or the pretty faces the show on TV in present it but we did not come up with. I love the idea of doing the bracket by twitter followers so the way the way the bracket was put together is all the at large bids. We did thirty two at large bids Or thirty two automatic bids. I'm sorry where the top top in the conference often each conference. The top the twitter account and each conference the official men's basketball twitter account that had the most fathers automatic bid from there. It was the next thirty two most follow teams and then when when we did that list that we had sixty four we realize like Louisville wasn't in Florida state wasn't end. Baylor wasn't end San Diego state like all these teams that we might have been bay. There wasn't anything so basically some of these teams that were having like great years like somehow weren't and we're like that's weird so we decided to make the last four like the final four the or the the the first four playing games. Whatever teams that Were the top four teams in the net. Rankings of the season that weren't In the bracket already yeah and it was a very like scientific thing. It's like we had no. It was no opinion. It was nothing like that I saw people were hot seat like rutgers fans especially they hear what happened. What happened to your family your religion and Rutgers Basketball Tate? They were very very hot that they were left out since Xavier fans were snub I saw which state did not make it. They did not like that Marquette fans didn't make it a who else was snow flake forest fans right. A lot of people are upset but it was like. What do you want us to do if we if we introduce subjective? You know thoughts into this and it's an absolute mess as to who gets one seeds and who gets whatever so we just left it up to the twitter followers. If you wanted to be in the thing maybe tell. You're you're the guy running twitter account to to buy some more buds like Duke. Did you know Well the That's the problem right. So we've we've gotten some of the results. The votes outright. Now this is live this inaction and we're seeing some of the results come out and as we predicted her as we talked about on the show on Saturday night. The Duke Blue Devils They may have. They may have the most followers two point. Some million two point five million right. They are losing right now currently largely to Lehigh. Which again like shows that those marquette fans and have turned on the do people. They've decided to now vote for Lehigh. We don't know what's going on but it's also this is. This is teaching all of us right about just one how much people will vote in hate. Not In love. You know what I mean like. Duke is losing because of that. I think early on another upset at APP state school. That's used the upsetting people. They're beating Oklahoma. Which is the two seed right now. Which I think is interesting early on in the polls. Your Ohio State Buckeyes. They're I mean they're in a fight right now against Louisville that's a tough match-up second half team bad matchup overseeing team we're gonNA be okay Virginia's currently losing to UNBC bylaws and yet the genius of this bracket to is. I swear to God it. Just check out this way. Virginia was a five seed. And you'll be the twelve and they ended up in the same region. Somehow pod Iowa was a sixty date in eleven which was awesome because of Luca. Garza an OB top head to head battles. That is by far like if you look at the votes that have happened. The Iowa Dayton one is like dwarfing all the other votes the total votes. That are those two. They gotta play each other. We gotTA WE GOTTA get a friend entity grads do a whole would home of those duties By God those fans each other so anyway I think I think this is one of those ideas date like it it it is maybe something. You're just kinda lay lukewarm about it. I you like yeah you know. It'd be cool a vote here. They whatever. But as this thing progresses I could see all these fan bases like this treating. This is the most important thing in the world. But don't have basketball. This is the next best thing so Yeah go to ask. Cb on Fox let your voice be heard. You don't just have to vote on matchups that you are a fan of like so if you're like a if you're tape frazier for example in your North Carolina Fan. You don't have to vote on North Carolina match ups you can go say vote for. I don't know how Lehi Against Duke if you want. That's okay we'll allow US though. Yeah go go vote go through house votes. We need it. The the entertainment does not come from house to lose in the first round at comes from Ohio State. Making it to the lead eight need convincing myself that we're GonNa win this thing. And then we get then. And then that's when the fans turn on US and vote us out and her yeah make North Carolina House. They played each other in the final four. That'd be seen. I don't think we have that much pool. And I will say whoever wins the Dayton Iowa first match of his destined to go to the final game. Basically at this point this is based on that. So they're going so hard another that they continue to climb and by the time they get to the second round of good drawer forever. They face and You mentioned the Duke Li. Hi Thing Duke. I mean. They have the celebrity fans. They have. Martha Hunt You know. The Victoria's secret model Todd Gurley. He's back in Atlanta. Georgia is GonNa get those people around up. They haven't seen the poll yet. We still have todd. Gurley is a huge Duke Fan. Did you not know this yes? He's from North Carolina. And is Todd Gurley. That went to the that went to a power conference school with a halfway decent. I mean a basketball program. Yes Oh and also like he was coming off the Trey Thompkins Travis Leslie years so like an actual basketball team even kentavious caldwell-pope. I was there and he was there but yet he was a do best fan. I anyway those select. Roblo those guys are GonNa come out of the woodwork and start like promoting this stuff. I also was just thinking about for Oregon like Ahmad Rashad. He may come out of a mob. Rashad comes ancestry tweet and this stuff. There's some sneaky celebrity who megan balls yet. Like who the celebrity do you think That has the most that will realistically get behind this and has the most poll. I guess we'd have to Drake Drake. Drake basically in coach cal. Because coach cows on twitter. He watched the two thousand twelve title game like the Rewatch that they had he like live tweeted the whole thing. I get deathly him. And Drake in together on twitter on a livestream. Just get people fired up. Because they're upset that there are two seed Kentucky Right. Yeah yeah nation to to see which is show well. They didn't see the requirements that we had. They thought that we just picked the four one rights. So they're going every other like they're they're going at Kansas fans I saw Kansas. Dougie fans is is going at each other's daggs. I'm just trying to save Alaska Carolina was the three the number three number one seed so they weren't taken as much richer. Oh this this this whole bracket should be whoever wins through. Drake's going to be a fan of guess. Yeah Yeah I think you're right though. I think I think there's a world which drake get A. I don't think he's going to really know what he's tweeting. But I could see I could see cal tweeting something. It'd be like help us out at Drake. And then Drake just re tweets it with like a sub fan or something like that like not really knowing what he's doing but he puts a link out there anyway is Emoji to to blue hearts. That's all it is. And then people go crazy a and then Kentucky Mix Iran and then they just go. Look it's BBN. This is what we do. This is who we are. Drake withdrew always been a fan of us You know as we know it Yeah that's the ultimate Fan BRAC and I'm very excited about it. I think it's GonNa get us talking about just I it's it's going to expose and show us some of the best fans and also some of the most of the worst fans excited about that too. I'm excited to it's already happening. The Fan base is that our snub who can't read it illustrating the best and worst parts twitter. The best being you can bring people together for common. Cause which is like voting for Iowa to Dayton if that's what you believe in our ever It also brings people. It also shows the worst in twitter which is no one reads anything in pays an ounce of attention to anything in. Amelia goes to twitter and complaints about Shit when death the answers you seek are if you scroll up and just read the other tweet you dip shit. It was right in your face ole time. That is the Joyce twitter tate. We love it. We love it. Yes we left. Glad we love this up to them. That's the best. We got the best part. If you didn't see the show the winner of this we are putting a billboard A. T. Now you're personally. We're breaking her quarantine. We're going to whatever campus. We have to go to personally putting the billboard up ourselves we're putting up a billboard of th th the winner gets to put the rivals campus at the right right by the rivals campus the basically just like taunts them and says we're better than you so that that's what's at stake. We're we're going to purchase a billboard And basically to shut down your rivals throat. So that'll be awesome. Yeah it's GonNa be great and we also going to banner and we're going to hang it up in our studio because this is the start of a new tradition. This is where we can actually hang banners that actually matter and we have some sort of control of you know this is for us if NC state wins did they get like five billboards. They just GonNa put it all over. They put one. Do they get to put one by Carolina Zoo? It's going to be thirty billboards outside Raleigh North Carolina. And they're gonNA it's GonNa be a just like literally one word billboard. Yeah the biggest circle billboards outside Raleigh. It's facing the rest of the world because it's it's NC state the rest of the world. Yes yes just a bunch of middle fingers but it's policy Wolfpack boss. I think we should just quickly talk about the only actual news notes. Okay all right. Yeah these these are news notes. Which is the the most important thing which we already brought up pretty much at the top of the show and it's pretty easy to point out mad harms who is of the world in a in a guy that we both have sort of. He was of the class at Purdue West. Lafayette that we love when we were on campus. We saw matt harms. You know the Isaac Haas era before that the Dakota Matthias years the Carson. I mean all those guys. And he's the last of them he's a Grad transfer and apparently he buzzed his hair. So people think he's going to go to that. There's A. There's a buzz that he may go to Madison Wisconsin. I don't know about this but maybe now that's the I mean. He's a white dude with a buzz cut. That's like it's it's destiny at this. I actually saw Bor- zillow Jeff Bordello of ESPN He put he reported. That Matt Harms has cut his list down to twenty five schools state. So He's getting closer to decision. This is think harms ship shaving. His head is what's more shocking. Harm shaving head or leaving produce because that guy is pretty basketball. I mean we asked my dad. Who's like the Guy who do you love? We asked my dad when he was on this program eight. What what purdue basketball player throughout your life do you hate? The most you said Chris Kramer and I started laughing was like no no no deadlines too. We want like a different answer. What I said different. Answer what I meant was like a guy when you're in college or like guy that from way back in the day the Gene Katie Era. And he said no matt harms and that was his answer to so many people. My heart is the face of basketball for better worse and now that this man is leaving a yeah. That's pretty shocking. Also shocking as you shaved his head. I don't know where I stand on. Which would be more shocking but Strange times we're living in indeed. It is honestly hilarious to think about your father. Only picturing mad harms in his head as the purdue basketball player that is the face of purdue basketball which is why. I think it's weird that he's going to go somewhere else and play basketball. We always have it. You know it was even this year Florida when I was watching. Carrie black share you know what I mean. It just felt a little often me and when you know when Mike Dom was thinking about transferring a couple years back. It was weird for me to think about him playing the other team. You decided to stay and didn't go anywhere else. But for me Matt Harms. I feel like has a change of heart on the way. This is a weird period this period of time to make like a big transition like decides at the last minute. Wait a second coach painter. Yeah comeback. I'm in harm's way. The thought is trivial. Williams who is basically the guy that looks like Caleb Swan again if you don't really pay attention to purdue and you just turn the Games on you're like wait. I thought wanting a left. It's that guy. The guy that went absolutely nuts against Michigan this year and had like a a few. Pretty Games Otherwise the thought is basically like he's going to be the guy next year and I guess maybe harms and painter talked about it and painters. Like yeah I. I'm not going to give you what you desire from a basketball perspective. You'RE NOT GONNA get two minutes or the touches you want. So maybe that's what happened. But like you said I think Matt Harvey GonNa take a long look in the mirror and be like who am I. I am purdue. Yeah I don't look I don't look like myself without without the hair. I don't like myself without the black and gold. I I gotta go back home. Maybe that's what happened. I don't know he's got his list. Twenty five so a decision is coming shortly. We do know that much. An imminent decision is on the way Speaker decisions. I have another funny news story A guy by the name of Patrick. Tape who is a Columbia transfer? I don't know if you've heard the story seeing this story. So basically he decided to transfer to do. He's a graduate the grants he decided to grad transfer to Duke and then he announces that he d commits which you know. All of the Internet goes crazy in there. Who did do get a commitment from to make this other kid? Decommit did he. Did he jump? The gun too early. Whatever happens happened later on Sunday night? Which is last night now. We're talking Monday night He's in Charlotte. He's back home. He's six ten he apparently committed over zoom Which I think obviously is a little probably strange but anyways he goes home thinks about talks about it then he re commenced to do so. I don't know what kind of chicanery is going on here. But Patrick Tape Sixteen Grad transfer from Columbia is going to do. Which is the replacement for your boy who went to Columbus Ohio. He was the guy who when O'CONNELL transferred and we said like. Dukes got something going on here. Yes bringing somebody was going to be. Towns wasn't but then there's this guy right after towns decided he was going to Ohio state and the now he's leaving because the the yeah. They might be upgrading interesting. I it has got weird. I'm not GonNa do the Oldman rant where I'm like. I don't like transfers but I don't like transfers from this perspective. It's just hard to keep track of them all. I'm just lazy. That's really hit like I I I I. I'm cool with the kids. Doing what's best for them. It's it has nothing to do with that. I don't think it's it's hurting the integrity of the game. What it is hurting is my my brain trying to follow what guys play for. What teams that's where it hurts and You Know I. I just wish guys would take that into account when they're making these decisions because it's hard to keep track. Let's be honest who's not going to take it into account. That's Rick Pitino. They're going to be so many people going in and out of Iona we will not know who it is who why they're playing there where they're playing basketball players trying to play. He's trying to schedule a game. He wants to play and Rita and a MINNESOTA MINNESOTA. Yeah it plays so this is a this is always good this this. I own a basketball this. Everyone Rick Pitino was fire by Louisville. Did like seven thousand interviews summer where he basically said. I'm done coach. I'll never coach again. This is literally all he's done since that mediates were coach basketball and he's just been angling for like the job to get now he's back at Iowa and now he's telling everyone this is my last job. This is a perfect for me. At everyone's like yeah. I guess I guess this is it for and all all Rick Potato was doing was watching the The scheme in say a man. Lsu's a pretty good job like lsu again. Let's talk about fictional basketball star right okay. We have anything else The real well. There's nothing else going on. I mean what are we doing here? But let's be honest. Let's be honest. My favorite thing is still going on. There's like a sense of normalcy. You're trying to find in these times and one of the things I love. Lucy is Jeff Goodman and John Rossi and the rest of our college basketball scoopers. Elias King from Valparaiso has decided not to take a visit to you. Know whatever school you know Alabama and it's like that's still happening and that's the only thing that is that's a that's still going on Rothstein still rusty. He has changed the wiring of his robotics. His mother board is still the same. Yes no it's the the dark knight has just started again. You know like like in best buy when they have all the. Tv's one movie and it's just like playing it over and over again. I do think there's Rosina's like a wall like that and it's just playing the dark died. The Dark Knight rises like over and over as many times and he's just texting on different phones the updates. Yeah let's I mean it is a weird time 'cause like I I mean I I feel like on the one hand. It seems so bizarre to do that. But on the other hand like you gotta just you have to. You have to keep the machine. Let's go over here is like we're we're leaving it. Yeah we're at once like listen. We know what's going on in the world. This is wild that were pretending to care about harm. Strengths range but at the same time. It's like you can't just sit at home and and stare at the wall and Yeah I don't know if you heard the screens of the dark knight playing over and over again and you continue to tweet through it Well let's let's. Let's let's do this. Let's let's This is what the people wanted or at least one guy. I don't know maybe maybe who knows. Maybe it was. Kyle that wrote in one of this Who knows who the hell knows anymore but someone wanted top five fictional basketball players. State is what they wanted from us. So we're going to give that to them. Quick break to get a word from our sponsor simply safe with all the uncertainty in the world. Feeling safe at home has never been more important. It's why I talked to you about simply safe home security on this show their longtime friends of Tyson tape and for good reason. Simplisafe has made it easy to finally get comprehensive protection for your home. 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This is like all star for me. I just won't five guys on the floor. I mean we are in the position lists era basketball. Tom Crean invented day vacation this year. So I think I think good in that regard but as I look at my team. It is a very New Age team which is like it's all guards it's basically all guards and I'm it's Villanova I this is. This is my Jay Wright top-five Fictional Basketball player Jay Wright lineup number. Five for me is a guy that I think. It's forgetting the fictional basketball world. He's in a movie that no a Lotta people would say. Oh that's the guy that you would put if you were going to pick that movie and I say no to that and that is coffee. Black from semipro played by Andre. Three thousand Andre Benjamin Let me just say he's a great basketball player. He convinced the alleyoop in this movie he gets to go to the NBA a fruitful career. I think with the Spurs if I remember correctly so I'm sure he won a title in the NBA And for some reason everyone talks with Jackie Moon in that movie. Jackie was not good basketball. That movie and it annoys me. People like Doug Include Jackie Moon. It's like Jackie Moon is literally like Thermo Post. I don't like it. You know we all remember that scene. Which means he's not good at basketball. What what are you talking about? Coffee Black is good and he number five on my top five list. Because he was Jackie Moon was Isaac us. Oh He's Chris link even worse. Pick okay my number five is Airbud. Ooh He you know. Listen I have a golden retriever? As as most of the program a Moses so I am impartial like I I I'm partial to golden retrievers. They're so we'll start there. But I mean if you break down the filmed the actual Airbud tape date in. Really dissect his game. The Dude has one of the quickest releases we've ever seen in basketball like he doesn't even he doesn't even catch the ball. He'd literally never catches it. You pass it to him immediately. Yeah absolutely quick. Release the quickest release of all time honestly He never missed to my knowledge. I have to remind what movie but I'm pretty sure he. He shot one hundred percent from the field when he was on the on the floor. Yes yes hunters concerns you would have would be like is. Is He a good defender? If you again if you go to. If you go back can watch the tape. He he does have a few great defensive plays so he's not just like a shooter you can play. He's a three and D guy for sure and I mean I would. I would have a higher on the list. The the only concern I have is that he he he was doing it against middle schoolers and I just. I don't know if game translates to the next level tatum. But what we saw from him in an earbud especially in you know like I know I know buddy was trying to And I don't I actually. I actually don't know this for all the other air budgets at the state was supposed to be the same dog I think it was all like relatives of the original relatives. It was like a passing of the baton. Yeah all right. Well that makes me feel better. He got a little distracted with his his career. You spread a little thin there with some of these other sports. Who's trying if you go back and Watch Watch? Airbud buddy was was isn't all titan literally never misses any the quickest release and. I think you extrapolate that over the course of eighty two game in the SEC Manhood number. So I got Airbud at number five. Yeah I will say this. I mean honorable mention. I had Airbud is mentioned only for the fact that he was playing against middle schoolers and I think at some point he was going to say. Do I really love this game? Am I just a joke to all these people right now? It's fun for him but when it becomes a business. Can you still do it? Like as a professional basketball is a business. It's no longer fun for those guys. So can you do it night after night after night? And can you handle the grueling schedule in caen fly across the country and all that kind of play at altitude? We we still. We still don't know that any play Utah in Denver on a road trip back to back. Utah Drinker I don't know Says why I'm a five otherwise you'd probably be number one if you answered some of those questions. So that's my that's my take i. I totally see like thirty for thirty on Airbud. That's Him Getting distracted by other things. And and it's like these dark. Shah's dark and ominous tones and it's hand like playing with toys at home too bad body to the basketball facility on some like toy making noise. Greek toy that'd be great All right number four on my list. You know him as bowel. I know him as little bow. Wow He's Calvin Cambridge and it's like Mike and Mike came out when I was about twelve years old and it was right about the right time for me It was a great story about the orphanage. He gets the shoes he gets to play for the NBA team. And it's basically like the clippers is based on the team. He's playing for a balls out. We got all the scenes with am. There's this great NBA. Vince Carter is in the movie. There's some great NBA seeds in there which are amazing any honest. I've never seen it but I could already saw it with having seen it exactly. Is it basically like he has magic shoes? It's like basically rookie of the year instead of having a broken arm magic shoes. Yes my understanding that correctly. Well in the shoes like basically like get struck by lightning on like a You know a telephone wire or whatever and then he goes. Get some drops down. He's like Never GonNa get adopted. He's got friends in the orphanage with them. But you don't mean orphanage you know whatever liaise whatever they call that person And basically he gets the shoes balls out goes in does like a little fan thing makes all these shots in dunks five foot and everyone's like what if what if he gets on by the NBA team as like a you know. Everyone thinks it's like a sideshow but then he's actually on the team and it's it's it's actually inside an NBA teams kind of Gwen. Can I guess what? Nba team gets done by. Because I honest to God donate guess. What the the La Stampedes or something? I can't remember but but every other team Israel so he goes up against Allen Iverson and he goes up against like Vince. Carter like games are real and it's like actually like real like they're calling the games they're like Indian Cambridge pain. You know it's crazy but he balls out. He's number four on my list like really got into the role He. It took some adjusting after the after they were done shooting like you really honestly thought he was one of the best basketball players in the world and the coming back down to earth stuff about a tough adjustment. Oh let me tell you this. When I knew I was having a tough time he started hosting one. Oh Six Park. I used to watch it on. Bt and then it was like a now we got Shad Moss and I was like bowel. Showed us now now. He's back to balance so so you're saying that going by your name because some guys like Dwayne Johnson or Curtis Jackson Lake going by their name because they are so successful that they've they've outgrown their identity is Rock and fifty seven hundred. What they've done Mark Titus is. They've gotten they got in the middle of their names. Dwayne the Rock Johnson Curtis Fifty Cent Jackson shed bow malls. Never happened never happened. I think mistake you made was going by little bell at first. You can't be so I mean I guess it's worth okay for Little Wayne but even then it's kind of not. It's not my perspective. I'm a big time little Wayne Hater as you. Not that turned me off for music forever. And the drake brought me back. God's point baby thank you throw little in there. I was a big mistake. You like your your. Your career could only be for a certain number of years and you can't be like fifty three year old guy with Lil. It happens with a young crowd as well like young easy Jr. he opted he goes. I do see the same thing happened with young thug. He'll just be thug way. Like with Wayne and thug. You can't just be like thugs. Came on something else out man. Yeah exactly. That's tough. We'll figure that out on the next podcast. All right. Here's number. Four hundred my number four. I had the the the tandem of Billy Hoyle in Sydney and I gotTa pick one a from white. Men can't jump. I think I'm going Billy Hoyle and it's tough but I think I think Billy Hoyle is better in the movie. Beats Billy Beats Sidney shooting contests and he also like. He's he's just better throughout the entire movie. Would Sydney tries established a back. He still like almost is still like ball out. Basically the one thing that Sydney had on him the entire movie was that billy dunk can jump up. North Lettuce. Hasn't been at the end of the movie. He does Donc so I I feel like all the questions about who the better player are answered with the with. Billy Duncan at the end but beyond that Woody Harrelson could actually play a little bit and Wesley. Snipes the actors themselves Wesley. Snipes apparently sucks a basketball. It sucks that like all things sports so I'm giving the NOD TO BILLY. Hoyle in that regard but it was kind of. I had him down as a tandem when I was going to try to figure out which one I think. I think I'm going to settle Billy Hoyle we. We know that's great because I have as my number three Sydney Dean and the reason I have Sydney Dina's because I felt like every single time I feel like the movie is waded in Bill. Hoiles favor in the sense. Like you said it's a shooting contest. Which is you know historically billy. Hoyle is going to win that one based on what they're trying to block. Why would remain. Historically what are you what are you so he's a white shooter? Exactly historically and then you know we got the whole dunk. Mantras like the guy can't up the whole movie. So I'm like Sidney. Dean doesn't get enough credit for the fact that he's a bulldog out there like he's the one that like you baby is able to get these games. Go on and I think at the no push push comes to shove billy hoed as the confidence out there without knowing that. Sydney really has his back so I gave it to Kim. Jong feels like a movie that people would say couldn't be made today but one hundred percent still could be made today but I can just see I could just see people talking about that moving being like Oh man you couldn't make that today and and then the rest of society shut the Hell Up. Yes you could quick Wesley. Snipes Story One time in my past as a podcast producer. He wanted to come onto defend what you just said about him. Not being a good basketball player he wanted to go and and give his side of the story basically and then he just. He never responded after the initial email he reached out. I was like his people like Wesley. Goal is to come on and talk about this. He was actually better. Basketball than people are willing to claim. I don't know if I like to that since that has come out. He's just been practicing like wait for someone to show to us like battle the networks the network stars Wesley. Come on come on. Come on this show. Let's buy. We should counter programming against. Es Espn Show in the NBA. Guys playing horse you versus Wesley. Snipes on the exact same time as the guys play chords. E tape frazier versus corn seed. Wesley Snipes Lane Horse. I have like a little small HOOPLA in the corner of my room. And if it's if it's like a hoop inside your house and it'd be nice. I'm one hundred percent in fact all right number two for me on the list of top five fictional boy. You're at number two. I do remember three. You just did you number. Three number three was. Oh no four sorry about that. Sorry about that. Your number three is neon boudreau through chips. The Shack Character Bikila new. Yeah Shaquille O'Neil he. If we're doing analytics he's he's probably number one because like every time he touches the ball. Dunks it in the movie basically Which is very he must have I. He was a DOE. Kazuyuki out there. Just trust talking on everybody But he he he felt a little one dimensional to me so I had to bump them down a couple of spots. He's number three A. I'm pretty sure he didn't miss a single shot. The entire movie also shack so I went up and I looked so the blue came out in February of ninety four enduring the nine hundred ninety three ninety four season shack average twenty nine thirteen and two point four assists in the NBA. So that basically like that guy is Playing Division One college basketball. I my mind just like that's neon is shack. I mean the guys from Louisiana He's literally played by so shack average. Twenty nine and thirteen. I figured you throw him in college. Basketball he. He's destroying everybody. He has the dunk at the very end of the movie. A dog's on number one Indiana at the Buzzer to be to be. Iu Tate and the following Hurley's ut. Bobby Hurley isn't he kind of you can make the argument that ended Bob Knight's career because This was Bob night. Never went to a final four again after neon. Boudreau don't over at the BUZZER. So yeah those are some of the whole the points. I had written down for the John. But he's my number three. I love that and it's funny because as I was going through this list I I had him like one. My candidates and I'm like I don't know I don't WanNa do blue chips because now we already have of the program thing. People don't like to close people know you like blue jets talked about it before but then also if you don't have the young list then you're wrong so I needed that. Though I appreciate that all right number two on my list I e he honestly there was like three. Mj's in my life that I love that one time And one of them was Michael J. Fox and He is Scott Howard and teen wolf and he's number two on my list and let me just tell you as someone a growing up watching movies from the eighties and the nineties. Because that's what we did. North Carolina Teen Wolf was one of my favorite movies styles. My favorite characters. It was the dream of everyone. Go to your basketball to the high school beyond your basketball team. Have these amazing moments you know. Live this just like Indiana North Carolina. We have super high school basketball Lineage and stories in moments and gene was all about that and When Teen Wolf is on the court. He's basically unstoppable when he's on the court it's regis. It's it's some of the worst basketball scenes. Actually you'll ever see if you really watch the movie It's so bad That it's almost like a joke. It's like a play men. The it's like it's like a live like Broadway play and they're playing basketball But Scott Howard still beautiful within it makes it. He makes the easy play. It makes the right place makes easy. Plays he makes the winning plays. And that's why number two on my list. I will say for blue chips That that's a nod to blue chips as a blue chips might be the best basketball movie in terms of like the actual sequence leaves the actual plays happening in the film. It kind of helps that they got actual in actual like high major division one players to to be in the movie but yeah that that's what make blue chips I have seen wolf on my list. I it's hard to separate the two because like who are you. Picking here are picking. What's his name Scott Right Scott? Howard you got Howard. Yeah are you picking Scotteri picking the wolf? Are We picking picking the wolf? You're picking Wolf picking up. Its package deal and say whether you have Billy Hoyle and Sidney Dean Scott Howard slash. That's it I like it. My number two might be surprising to you. I don't know we'll see here in a second but I before I get I get to pick. I want to say my so to this point. I've been ranking is based on their lake you measure their impact is based on like what they're doing on the actual court and what we see from them on the court might my to my number one number. Two guys both had to be number one number two for me because they are are. There's real life consequences. They are so good that they trigger real life consequences. A with people something to get that by saying that. And I'M GONNA say my number two is Jimmy Chitwood and the reason. Listen Bro is is a much better basketball player than Jimmy Chitwood. There's no doubt about that but Jimmy Choo would y was not playing for Hickory tate in the entire town literally the entire town every single person in this town. They called a town hall meeting so fire the head basketball coach and the only way that the head basketball coach saved his job was because Jimmy. Chitwood said all play on the team. That man has a ton of power. I Know Small Town Indiana. So it's not like you know we're not talking like big legislation here but still like this went beyond like the stuff you're willing to do off the court to get this guy to have him play speaks volumes As far as I know neon did not Garner that much attention was not he was just getting what did what did neon getting blue chips and forget it. He get the penny's mom. Got The house a rookie. Yeah the way the actor. He was in the military base right. When you get the cash forget. I haven't seen that moving a couple of years. I think the cash. Yeah at the remarks that people are yelling. How can you love blue chips and remember what check it but the quarantine? I've been watching too many other. Things got so much stuff freshman. Melissa your check I watched the scheme and blended in with the storm. Yeah Jimmy he's on my list. For that reason without Jimmy show would hickory is garbage. He joins the team that won the state title And he's got the purist at the other. The other thing I would say is at Jimmy. Chitwood the reason I put him above Neon Even though neons probably better player is Jimmy Stewart. Woods legacy that one guy has sparked like an entire identity for an entire state writing like the the Pacers Literally Wear Hickory Jerseys the Indiana Pacers in sanctioned NBA Games where Jersey's a hickory because hoosiers matter so much the people of Indiana Pacers pay homage to The movie hoosiers so in that regard. Jimmy's influence is much much greater than Dion. So I had to put him above now. Yeah number number one. But he's not he's not number one but I also appreciate that because again Jimmy Chitwood. It's not on my list but that was because again. I have a I grew up with the disdain. Because like you said Indiana's the hoops St because of that movie because of Jimmy Chitwood. They are the originators of this whole thing. So I always just had You know I was like Whatever hoosiers like it but I like Jimmy Chitwood. And he's he's a primetime player as Dick by Talat Yellen to our years. If you were on this program smooth J two. He's got the not only his whole storyline. Reflect Indiana well just as the guy. His actual shooting form is very Indiana. Which I appreciate well all right. Finally my number one on my list which is My favorite basketball movie outside of the animated world outside of my favorite basketball player being able to be a star in it because there was a little technicality where I thought maybe I could put his my number one top five fictional basketball players Michael Jordan. Because again he did play. He did play. You know in the looney tune world. You know what I mean. So he played a looney tune land. So I don't know but anyways my actual number one is From he got game and she's shuttles and the reason he is. My number one is because one in the movie the best basketball the best best ball player ever on the planet says and I quote the name of the movie he got game. Michael Jordan says that the movie about Jesus Shuttleworth Season Play. He goes he got game. And you talked about hoosiers representing Indiana. I think he got game in big state. Which is where Rick Fox Aka Chick? Deegan is giving the tour to Jesus shuttles worth showing. Him Of this is what it's like to go a big public university these are the highlights is the big man on campus I think North Carolina identifies with that at some level. I mean I don't know if it's the full level but spike Lee would say it was the full level and For that for me for that movie. I enjoyed watching it from that. Point of view and seeing the The real journey for someone. That is a Jesus shuttles worth and then have his father. Jake split by Denzel Washington that game at the end where they play each other I it's such A. It's such a great game degree moment. Such a great movie and I feel like that story in that character. Got kind of solidified as one of the best basketball players in fictional and because Jordan goes oh he got game. Yeah there's that there's also. His name is literally Jesus jets. You know little in the notes but little too little too on the nose. But I'd I'd like I'd like to direct go to my number. One is also Jesus Shuttleworth. We're in agreement eight. Jesus listed and much like Jimmy Chitwood got the entire town of Hickory to band together to save His coach job. Jesus Shuttleworth like thinking about this for the governor of New York. Basically let a murderer out of prison altogether. Jesus shuttles worth to go to alma mater like that was how good? Jesus Shuttleworth was That's all I really need to know. I don't need to see the movie I have seen the movie in many times If you just told me that right there I'm like all right. That guy that has to be a great basketball player for that to happen and that's pretty much it. That's the only point I wanted to make with. This is that Jesus Shuttleworth got. The governor of New York is his father. You said Denzil Wash. Jake is by danger. Watch herders mom the accidentally but I mean at the same a therapist. Yes push on purpose killed accidentally He's in prison for killing his wife. Yes governor of the State says I will let you out if you could get your son to come play. One Year of college basketball was at the deal Just an ecologist sign a letter of intent period. That's insane that's absolutely insane. It speaks to us so he has to be my number one at that point and it also speaks to the fact that like the hyperbole of college basketball could get to that level and people still gay. That's believable absolutely. Yeah is is this this even be the most egregious instance of like politics seeping into college basketball? I don't really think it would be. I know I mean this is if you just if that was a true story. In Ray Allen's name was Jesus Shuttleworth. This was a real story. Ray Allen would probably be the biggest star in basketball. Still to this day you'd be on TV every other day. But I'm talking to a maximum stories tells about thinking with your dad one more time so your your top five were a Jesus. Jesus shuttles the one Scott Howard slash teen wolf too. Yes yes Cambridge of four coffee black at five. Yes I had Jesus Shuttleworth of one. I had Jimmy Chitwood it's Neon Padro at three billy. Hoyle at four in Buddy Aka. Airbud at five which you know I still stand by. I think air. But what are the honorable mentions? Would you have on your list because I had a? I had a lot of the ones that you have on your of. I had Scott so I had a PD list. And this is a list of guys that I felt like could be on there but I felt like they were using. Pd's one of them was one of them. Was Scott Howard. Jose I felt like If you if you take away is his abilities with the wolf. I know the plays the last game as himself as himself. Yes he has the confidence. Yeah but I mean you do like a whole whole big picture thing when he's not the wolf. I'm not really. I don't know if it's enough for me. To crack the top vice. I felt like the wolf was clearly. Pd's clearly something's going on there. I had a Guinea Tyler from six man. I felt like his. The ghost of his brother was also. Pd's he's a good player but like having your brother helping you out avenue. The ghost like guide the ball into the basket PD stuff. I had the entire tune squad listed Michael secret stuff also. Pd's Lola Bunny is my initial honorable mention list. Pd's I don't want to be a busted. And I had. I had the guys on the the basketball game for flopper but they also had the putting the flood on your shoes that that some some some trickery going on there so Airbud as you might remember tate. There's no rule us as a dog can't play basketball so That's on the up and up. That's above board. That one's good but those are some my honorable mentions and Yeah my last one. I guess is Pedis while Joanna Man And I think that's also PD's because that's WNBA. So I think you really look at the list. It was really Everyone that we did less had some sort of reason. I didn't do blue chips just because it was too close to the vest too. Yeah I did. I had wool Smith listed too but then I went back and watched the tape on him. from from fresh Prince I went back and watched the tape. I don't think he was playing basketball. I don't think it's fair to call. That was basketball. I mean they're playing on a tiny court and The backboards are like from the nineteen twenties. They're not even rectangular. It's it's ridiculous and then he literally there's the one play where they on opening tip they. He's Jumping Center. They throw the ball up jumps up catches it pump fakes from half court or does does a double pump from half court and makes it mom and to me. I'm watching that. I'm saying this is not basketball. Whatever this is not basketball. He's great at it. I will give him that typically cap if we were doing like a list of best athletes. Maybe putting him on there because he was very dominant. But that's not basketball. And then the last Fictional basketball player. I had on my list as an honorable. Mention was George. Mike and I've heard great things. I'm not sure is a really drill. Do the drill is a drill member to ever. Have you ever seen a George Mike and highlight tape ever in the history of honestly? That's what I was GONNA say. I feel like the people that were writing for fresh prince or like the set design team they watch like Wilt Chamberlain highlights. They're like this is. What baseball isn't it was wilt chamberlain towering over everyone just like tipping the bottom dunking. Like he was like and they're like yeah so wills he's gotTa play on like a miniature sized court. I guess I don't know I gotta look like this. This is basketball. I feel like that's what it was. he was also consideration reminded. Then I was like it's not it can't count there is that was that was good. Yeah all right. Cool who else Yeah I I think that's it that's it. Yeah that's all my list. All right good stuff tate. We did it what else we got. Well we have a dirty laundry. Yeah let's do it all right. Let's this is go time this game time. This is a dirty laundry time. This is the segment that is near and dear to our heart and we finally have people sending good stories. Yeah we have I think. Let me count them up. We have one two three three. We just have three. But these are three Goodwin's Goodman's I read over before the show and I'm excited about these. Aren't you ready? I'm ready number one. I worked for the Athletic Department for Blueblood Basketball School and lived with basketball team manager. The coaches approached us in the spring about aching in one of the players who was wearing out his welcome in the athlete dorms. Mostly due to we'd we had an open room furniture in it while they're other roommates student taught in another city so it worked out fine. We were to keep an eye on him and they'd find a new spot for him. After some workouts it was a strange fruit. Few months living with him. But nothing too crazy we We weren't there when he moved out. But when our four through got home he found that player x had broken into his room and taken his dresser and dumped out all of his belongings on the floor when asked about a player exploit dumb all the while he started the season posting career. Best numbers shooting lights out. The joke became that the dresser was magic. So let it be my roommate eventually. Stop Finding it funny and demanded it back. We texted player acts while the team was on the road and told Him we knew he had it and we were going to get it. We're going to get it from his house. He finally admitted it was cool about it. So we went and got the After we took the dresser back is shooting slumped he was suspended and eventually it was run off the team Then quote declared for the draft. He's since been in the G. League and dealt with some arrests cemented the legend of the dresser. If he if we'd let him keep it maybe my alma mater would have another. That's like like Mike. That is the plot of like my to. Isn't it absolutely yes? Dresser are the shoes basically in this situation. I mean that's a I mean I have a lot of names that came to mind as a as I was working through the The programs and the players and While Judy kept that Dresser I think I remember that run because I remember he changed numbers and I was like. Wow this guy is. He's gotTa go now. This is something else so then all the sudden it was all gone and it was the story. I think I know who it was honestly. I'M NOT GONNA I'm not gonNA say that email was signed tate. Saw shot take for sending that one all right? The next one I was a manager at a major D- One school during a period when we won a national championship one year. We had a a one and done. Grad adult and one is suited to their Adana and wind grad transfer. Come onto the team Excuse me and for classes. He enrolled in the basic program. That all of our Grad transfers did one day in one of his classes. He was writing answers on the Whiteboard for group. Exercise Win one of his group members suggested self esteem as an answer. This was all well and good until the players spelled it self Essiet. Se L. F. Than a just the letter. A. And then steam S. t. e. a. m. l. posting self esteem. That sounds like a product that you would get like like any QVC or one of these channels or somewhere shark tank. Like here's your self esteem and like steams you but it says something nice like you're seeing your clothes you're gonNa have a good day to day. Keep in mind. This man now has degrees from not one but two schools. Great Look for the day as always so yeah graduate. This man already possessed a degree. He had an undergraduate degree when he wrote spelled self esteem. Self a steam fantastic. We've all been there. I think we've all had much right won't be about that but I think that's one of those people were you dislike. You should type should type and you should. You should edit go. That's a guy the guy who grew up with spellcheck on his dislike never had to worry about spelling or Kerry because you just type then yet redline POPs up you're right click it and fix it move. I never they never had t nine word or a palm pilot or anything that had to like. Actually like you use that word. You know what I mean like. Yeah like discombobulated like one say candidate now. What was the hardest word for you to spell like when you're in school I'm trying to college? I mean like in elementary was trying to think like in sixth grade. Like what am I? What was it texting team deny that I was I was when I was second grade? I remember getting tripped up on balloon. Because I didn't believe that it was a double l. I used to always spell it with one L. and license really messed me up mice still. Yeah yeah that's a good one. It's worse in. Yeah those got me. This week on sculling. Thanks very last one. I am a student at a blue bud. School not an prince's not NC state level prominence. But still some hype elect shadows. Nc State NC stadiums the love that big week during my freshman fall. I was required to take a freshman only seminar course. There were variety of courses offered that satisfied the requirement. But we all knew which one was the easiest. I walked in on the first day. I was greeted by two of our freshman five stars sitting in the backseat of a ridiculously small classroom. I sat next to them and got a chance to talk to them I got a chance to talk to them. Mostly HOOPS SAYS PRINCE. Fast forward to the morning of our midterm. A few months later and I'm headed to class from the dining hall as walking. I hear behind me. Hey wait up player. Number one is hustling to catch up to me. He yes a you study for this test or whatever. I responded a little bit but I don't think it's going to be too bad. This was mostly an attempt to not sound like a nerd in front of the future. Nba draft pick but also the truth because this class was actually really super easy. He grand and he said all right. Sit next to us when we get in there so we walk into the rest of the way to class together and I was conflicted on the one hand. I didn't really have a history of cheating but I fell deep calling in my schools basketball program as if this was the ultimate fan move becoming a martyr for a championship hopes. After some brief internal dialogue I thought screw. It came to terms of mission. The professor arise we all class. We take our seats in for the first time all semester. I sit in between player number one and number two. If this wasn't obvious enough of a red flag for our professor just wait. She handed out tests and we began. We had an hour and a half for the exam by the one hour. Mark the entire class attorney in their exams at exit. The Room just leaving just myself from the players remained for an entire thirty minutes or a new seating arrangement. I was sliding my exam from side to side flipping pages and repeating. I would hold up my exam in the air to triple quadruple. Check my answers thinking those answers. I put down forty five minutes ago. Still haven't changed. What through the test over over erase and rewrite inches to make sure they were legible ensuring there are no discrepancies. In Our answers from my perspective are scheme could not have been any more obvious but our professor bless her heart must have felt a similar college basketball program instead. No this one's actually signed Titas well with only minutes to spare and the testing period. The two of them got up during their exams and after waiting a respect amount of time I followed. I left the room feeling simultaneously fulfilled and guilty justified in my mind once again as the responsibility of the truth in fast forward once again to a week later and our professor has back the exams class. Not so weird Brag but I got a ninety six and he sees again. This class could not be easier. Ads classifieds and we file out of the room player number one yells at me Bro. He runs up next to me and throws his arm around my shoulders and says thanks for the help. Little Slime your big time. Even proudly flashes graded graded exam next to me circle. The Big Red Red La circled in big red. Riding at the top of the page is seventy eight percent so the guy got a ninety six in the dude cheated off of looking at every single. Here it's still got a seventy. Let's let's let's be on us all. I can imagine. This is like a class where you have to actually work out and show your work. You know what I mean. They're just like half there. It's like half answered. You don't have to talk to like sure. Sure that's answer. Speed of my only like example of that is my freshman drama. One sixteen in Gio Benard. Who's on the football team was in my class and I was like four star running back? You know this is like I wanna be friends with this guy so I was talking to him super nice and for the first test. I said next time because I was like you know he can look at my test. We need to and then he thought I was going to try to cheat off him so he was like he was like blocking me out and I was like this is the funny thing in the world. Like I'm sitting next to this guy trying to be like you could. You could look at then. You had a better grades than me. I was like would you test? He's like ninety four eighty four. So that's my North Carolina Story. I tried to help the programs. They were smarter than me so I was like okay. I'll stop my my my one story. I think I've told us on. Some iteration of our pod was I remember going into the dorm across the hall. Me and one of the managers freshman year of room together across the hall was Greg. Mike David Lighting Daiquan Cooker. All freshmen their dorms. Right across the hall and I would go over there and just hang out with those guys is because you know whatever and I remember going in one time. Just walking across an in their kitchen on the table was a paper that day. Kwan had written for a class for an English class and it. He got zero percent in a circle and there was a note that said. This isn't even what the topic was about. I'll never forget that. His lawyer like he. He wrote an entire paper. It was like you're supposed to be writing about like the the the model t in how it changes in manufacturing forever and he wrote about some Russian dictator or something. You're not even close to the topic ahead on zero for the record decline. Cook like like this to tournament's going on right now like all these players play into Hagen's each other if you had the Oklahoma City Thunder in two thousand nine or something like that when dake on cooking team and he was in the corner never misses every single like is. If you WANNA put the thunder bay either good westward array drive and they just kicked to the corner as Daiquan Cook. And it's what was the greatest eighth grade basketball player of all greatest eighth basketball. I've ever seen. He was the greatest of all time. There's no doubt my eighth grade. Lebron versus Eighth Grade Daiquan They would be. They was so quantum was catching it off the glass and going between his legs and eighth graders like six. I've told the story to tell you. Greg I've told you about this The played in a tournament. Fort Wayne in it was we had like a I. I think I've told US many times. It was like eight. Am Tip off in Fort Wayne Indiana and it was the night after dake wants prom. And we're supposed to tip off at eight and it's like eight ten and day. Kwan's nowhere to be found and You know we're we're delighted as much as we can. Because he's one of our starters. Obviously maybe our best player at the time because Greg is Kinda like figuring out. His coordination has grown everything So we're waiting day quantity get there. Finally coach Mike. Conley is dead turns to me. And he's like mark you're just GonNa Start the day Kwan and I was like Oh shit. I'm not ready for this like it's neat. Am and I it. It takes a while to get loose and I like coming off the bench. You get into the flow. They all coach six whole processes like all right well at the same time. I Have Greg Ode in my county on my team. I think we'll be okay so I'm kind of walking out there and then as I'm out there we're kind of trickling out onto the court to start the game. You hear Daiquan hold up. And he's running into the crowd. He's he's got his shoes like over his shoulder and he's running into the rest like all right Hole through your shoes on whatever so he throws his shoes on real quick I come out. He GOES IN OPENING. Tip Greg Tips of back to Mike. Daiquan just takes off running. Mike like takes two dribbles basically throws a new from half court daiquan catches it and dunks it like right out of the gate. Since I consider the gave us what happens? Five seconds in the game. They go down the achievers down. Mrs. Schott Daiquan comes down. Post up off the block. Six Two dribbles backs down does like Hakeem shake a baseline fadeaway. Nothing but and I'm looking at all my teammates on the bench. Like who what what what just happened. Ice Cold off of his prom drove. You know like two or three hours. Our launches from Dayton to Fort Wayne to get to the game at eight. Am God knows how lady stayed up? You probably didn't get any sleep. No metronews hidden fatal is and I was like my God. I think that was the moment that was a junior. I think it was a moment I was like. I'm done with basketball forever. I think I'm just gets just quit. Is like if guys can do that when I'm busting my ass and it took me. I warmed up for forty five minutes and I still wasn't warm enough to start the game in this dude did that That's my Daiquan story. So I loved Aiqun. That's amazing story We need more of those. Those are great. I mean those are the best dirty laundry we've had in a long time. So which one's your favorite? Should we give out a t shirt? Yeah for the last one. I think the last one. That's I mean especially with the professor. You know just sitting there understanding the fact that they're just obviously blatantly cheating and having to to fight their her own demons in that moment as well. That's that's what college sports are all about this. It's that is that is college sports Dutch. Shell help the athletes. That's yeah that's that's why you're so upset when the North Carolina thing you're like Rick Pitino when the North Carolina thing happened where you're like. Yeah of course we're doing it but so is everyone else. Why are we going down for anything else before we go? I just want to say we're we're still waiting on A game we need to pick a game to TNT. Ask On. I want to talk about that I. I'm coming around on the idea. I I'll be honest I win. The tournament was cancelled immediately. I was like cool. We'll just do some tea classics and then a couple of days past and I was like I don't really. It's too close like the tournament should still be going on. I don't WanNa Watch games kind of thing whereas whining on the show about like. I don't WanNa watch any basketball. All right now to her and then and then it became a thing whereas like everyone was everyone was watching these games like that kind of took away from what makes them fun to me was like pop it in the summer and be like. Let's all watch this one gate. There's too many on. It was like which one do we pick? Let's all so my attitude is like just watch him off when they're on I don't want to. I don't want you and I'd be like no no no. Don't watch Duke Buttons to Ted. Watch this one instead So I thought we should like to step back and let it breathe but now I think I'm in a good position because I think they stopped doing that right like. Cbs isn't showing all the oil games. Anymore maybe we could find one and yeah. I feel we yeah. They stopped with the tournament right so tonight. Is the night of the National Championship? Congratulations we'll just say at Florida. State you're the national champions and then we we have it locked it in Then now we're onto the offseason quote unquote so we can do the TNT classics. And they're they're still the same vein they always were which is off season highlighting a game that we thought was great. And just going back to that moment. So I'm all for that. Which ones we WANNA do? Let's figure it out by Friday announcing on Friday all. Yeah and then we'll do. I mean I know we've been kind of promised to this for a while but I think I'm actually ready to do that. I think it's a good idea now. Which should all pick one and Yeah and we should do it on Friday. We should announce it on Friday and they give people time to watch the. Nah maybe next Friday. Yeah they go next on this Friday and the due next Friday Friday Friday Friday. Yeah perfect deal that it. We figured it out. Yeah that's A. That's a podcast date. I can't wait I have. I have one shot. I WANNA give a Santini. Our friend of the program texted me this today. Just said what the hell is this. It was a headline from the New York. Times it says in a time of need we turn to sister. Jean and it was an article about sister. Jean and how she's consoling college basketball players about the current Situation and it was in this moment that I realized it's a sweet story a main. She's she's a non she's Whatever her official title actually is at school and she's using her experience in her wisdom to console people in a difficult time and all that but I realized I reached the point where I can't help but laugh at at just like anything sister. Jean related No matter what the Hell Outta started laughing. That's where we've arrived is uh you just mentioned sister Jeannie capacity. I think it's funny. Yeah she's Look. She's already offered our thoughts and prayers. This I guess is a continuance on those thoughts and prayers. We appreciate that. We love sister. Jane we know that she lives for the headlines. We call to see this issues back. It's good to see the old lady and I'm talking about sister Jane. I'm talking about the New York. Times good to see that they are hurting for content. Just as bad as we are disliked. Maybe we'll do a sister. Jean story two years ago. Someone called Fisher Gino. My please please consider Jane. What's she doing? It's like Katie couric and sister Jean. They're just like please. Please get them on the line. Katie top-five Corentin movies. Now please I had. I had one more shot. I wanted to shout out just out of nowhere unrelated to everything I wanted to shout them out. No free ads. I know but how I don't know what made me think of this. I think it just quarantine brain just came to mind the ads that they used to do where the sweat was colored date. Yes was that not like the most cutting edge technology. Did we take for granted like think back on? That wasn't in the nineties. They would see an atom sweating orange. Yes it's insane like if you really think about it. That's insane and I wanted to shout out gatorade. Because in the middle of quarantine brain I was sleeping in woke up and I thought about Gatorade. I thought like Holy Shit. That is insane that they made a commercial in nineteen ninety. When you couldn't even get like like was the yellow line even a thing with football yet at that is making colored sweat. Oh my God I wanted to shout out those commercials. Those are some of the coolest commercials and the technology is is. I think it's taken for granted and it'd be. Let's just be quite honest when you have Michael Jordan as your main guy. You're selling like however many thousands of millions of dollars of gatorade every single year. You're like yeah. We'll put ten million dollars into the budget. I think that's what it was a budget for that day to take to make it but like I it. It took three years for that out. Commercial to render. Then they finally got it up. They signed Jordan eighty seven. I think that's what it was is I've been I've been watching like all these old college basketball games and you see how bad the the video quality is and then I was reminded of those gatorade commercials and I was like how the hell is the video quality. That bad and all these games but gatorade like had the technology gatorade had the technology to make like. Orange Sweat and I'm sure people that are in production will just be like all you do is at one button and it changed the colors. That's what I'm saying. The fact that that technology exists in Beckton is insane because yeah every other basketball games like pixelated and gained was like we're GonNa make drops different colors. That's that's all. I made a whole list of quarantine thoughts by the way. I wish I think next Tuesday listed do corentin thoughts which do our top ten corentin thoughts. One of them is Do other animals get zits? I had that thought. There's her once. Have you ever seen as it on a dog? No I don't think so. So they're mammals. You'd think they'd have to write. I don't know I feel like dolphins dolphins. Maybe they might get sets and then the other the other thought I had is. I wrote this down. It's amazing how easy it is to to. You can get away with anything if you just say the phrase you've got to crack if you make an Omelet after you even. I just encourage everyone to try that. I discovered that during the quarantine. Like no matter what you do. If someone's like dude what the hell did you blank is? They got crack a few eggs to make an Omelet. And then they're like you and then everything's school so try it. Try THAT YEAH. I also want to point out that anyone that says they ran the numbers or they crunch the numbers. They did not and never trust their numbers. Their numbers wrong And that's based on every single. Tv Show and movie. I've seen everyone that's crunching numbers. Like something comes back. And they're like Oh my God. You didn't crunched numbers that's like. Why would you said you comes numbers? Maybe or I actually haven't i. This is the you're absolutely right. Crunching the numbers is a is a is a very quick way. Not Crunch numbers. Very quick Cheating way to be built credibility. You're doing because if you crunch the numbers Martinez you know what you do. You show your word that's why if you're a mathematician or you're someone that's in that field that world like that's why you always have to show your work. That's why if you're like me you hate math. 'cause you're like? I don't want to show my work but you have to show your work. That's why the that's why the basketball player dirty laundry got a seventy eight and the other guy didn't show. I share your work. He just put the. Is this the dumbest idea I've ever had or could this work We should have kyle on and do a show. That's just like we've written down all our quarantine thoughts and we just do a whole show where we reach convened with our old buddy kyle and dislike top Thoughts we just ripped like that. I don't know there you go. There's your final ts for the week. Tops in Corinthian thoughts citizen more dirty laundry citizen everything that you want to talk as far as games. We'll figure out what game we're going to talk about next Friday. I feel good though titus survived. Feel-good yeah we're we're we're getting through this And Yeah it's can I say more to stall with my thought here? I feel great No It's been fun. I enjoy these lists. Underneath their circumstances. It'd be hacky in Boring Lazy Type State and this is this is what has become Go vote if you're listening still go at college. Seb on Fox go vote for go if even if you WANNA turn this into like a Peyton Hillis Madden cover thing and just do what you gotta do. Do whatever you whatever you think is the funniest thing I don't care we don't care we just ask that you vote that that's really it so go vote. Sap Beyond Fox. Thanks for listening. We'll be back.

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Lacrosse Superstar Paul Rabin, Kentucky Ghost Callers, And Our New Intern Jill

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Lacrosse Superstar Paul Rabin, Kentucky Ghost Callers, And Our New Intern Jill

"On today's part in my take, we have a packed episode for you. We have Paul rebel from the premier lacrosse league. He taught us all about lacrosse. He is some may say the goat of lacrosse very, very fun time. Interesting interview with him. He's a really good guy. We gave him some pretty sure fire winners for the P L L goose the ratings a little bit. He is what will make me watch the cross, because I'm like, damn. That was a really likable guy. He's not really like the classic lax bro the your chatter. Brad, even that wouldn't be bad. But Paul rebel, really good guy. We also hosted Kentucky sports radio one of our favorite days. The year we gave you some clips from some unbelievable callers. We also also have the debut of our sixty nine year old intern Julie football and licensed to Jill. And then on top of that we have fire fest and MB finals and Drake in owners pushing players and a. Packed Friday Schreider energy to Friday, energy. 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We have an awesome, awesome Friday show for you. Paul Rabo coming up. Kentucky sports radio ghost stories, Jili football all of it's coming. We're watching the game. Oh, I'm feeling. Hank is reacting as we go there on right now. Who's one nothing? We got fifteen forty five left in the third minute left on the power play for the b word. So we won't we won't talk about it, unless there's a goal or unless something big happens, but we're going to start with the NBA finals, we're going to start with game three. We have a lot of storylines that came out of it, but I want to talk about the actual game. I we're, we're, we're actually NBA fans. We're not the this league. I'm not a fan. I'm journal. Right. Speak for yourself. I'm objective. Okay. So absolute ask kicking by the raptors slamming gets paid four man gets paid. Steph curry with an all time performance. Forty seven points, eight rebounds. He had the most rebounds of the warriors, which is incredible. He basically tried to will the warriors to victory. The warriors were putting out like some hilarious lineups because no Klay Thompson, Kevin Durant. And who's the guy that looked like Detlev shrimp? Got the drab hus- drab co. Yeah, you've got to know armpit hair. No game. Yeah. No game. Drip, co no. Yeah. The, the warriors line-up was like every now and then we'll Steph was on fire, but every now and then one of their guys make shop for the majority of the game it was like open shots because everyone was guarding Steph and then some bum missing. What sucks is that when it's a warriors game I can't turn the game off early if it's a blowout, because you never know they cut it you never know. And it it's it feels the same story every time the raptors take game from Irwin, even when the rockets were beating them, but you can't. Off the game. Even in the fourth quarter there like two minutes left there down by ten points down by twelve points, and as shit, I really need to let Lee route and have them take a massive dump, but I can't because Steph curry might just catch fire again. Right. My night for me right? I a lot of people were also complained about the late start time to the game. I like the late start time for two reasons. One it separates the men from the boys shrew as a real fan. It's like I have to work for it. I know that lesser fans don't stay up for it. Number two. It gives me way more time to lock in my bet. So I think that the NBA actually really enjoys these late start times, because it gives Abby, silver loves these men. Well, a much larger window with which to lock their think about today. So the other parts of the game Klay Thompson, obviously, being out hurts the warriors, not only obviously on offense. That's, that's very apparent but defensively he's like I mean, he changes everything the raptors got whatever they wanted they shot like forty seven from three they were on fire all night. And then I want to give a special shout out to my guy boogie cousins because what he didn't game too was phenomenal. And like any fat guy, he was like I got mine. I'm not coming back for game three because he knows showed game three and I like it because you know that he was like a little extra sore from game too. He was like I've done my part. I you guys don't need me like to do this every game. Right. And that is they needed it on game three. And he just didn't show up for it. Yeah. He would do the thing where he occasionally to look like you're hustling, if you're playing pickup basketball, you're out of shape guy, just bring the ball up court one. Or twice. And then pass it immediately that play as far as everybody else's concerned, you or the point guard. My move to always get a laugh if I bring the ball up as I just call fake play. I'm like, Indiana everyone. Get it set up. You just pretend like you throw the ball and then go set a pick. And everyone's like you say trying to sit up triangle fan. All right. So the I actually think the warriors are totally fine. I mean that's not like a hot take button, Claes going to be back. I think the sitting Klay, they're like, look, we're the warriors, like we'll be fine. Let's get him one hundred percent healthier close to one hundred percent. He's not going to be hundred percent for the rest of the series. But they know that they can win on the road. They know they can win down. I don't think Kevin Durant gonna play this series. We've said that on. When did you see him after the game in the tunnel he was he was doing lease? He was doing the good job good effort. He also was a good childhood effort kid, you had a warriors. He was icing his kill to lower calf strain. He also has been ruled africaine for already. Yeah. So. Like how we're getting even further away. Like we're going to rule them out for game five the minute game for ends. But I still think they're fine because of the warriors and I know people don't like the words or sick of the warriors, but I actually loved this series because they're being tested to the absolute limit. And it's like they will really earned this if they win this series. Yeah. And then there was obviously, the story of the partial owner of the warriors, Mark Steven Mark Stevens given a little shove to Kyle Lowry as he dove into the sand I want I want to start with the partial owner part because I don't know if you've noticed what the media has been doing in the warriors of doing and the NBA. He started as an owner. Now, he's he went to owner owner to partial owner, then he was a minority owner then he was an investor. Well, he's definitely white. Yes. Are, you know, minority stake? Yeah. And then he was an investor. And then, like, by the start of game four he's gonna be like some dude, just gave us a lot of money once. Yeah. He bought a lot of shirts. Yeah. We just decided to give them a little stake. They're distancing himself. Themselves so far, this guy and heard of him. He's going to have to sell his stock here. His his investment in the warriors poor Mark Stevens. It's like it's gone up like four and a half times. So he can make a shitload of money from it. You think they can offer that to Katie to stick around or LeBron car the Bronco, but, but let me just say this, but then hears he can't call himself. An owner. This is almost like an you're right. That's true. There's almost an epidemic going on, like everyone's talking about how many owners are pushing players in the stands in the NBA. This is the type of thing that never happens in the NBA L down in Australia, non New Zealand. We've never pushed me onto listen, listen it never happens. We won't we promise never even go to a game zone. That's how safe you are. A lot of people are telling them a lot of people are talking about players that are going to ditch the NBA. Yeah. And go play overseas because they're sick of getting assaulted by the owners, the so there's like it's not complicated because you should never ever touch a player. That's like point blank end of story. Never touch a player the complicated part to me slightly is it was very clearly like he was blacked out and almost like his fan, his phantom came over him. And so you're sitting on the couch, you're throwing your remote at the TV. He just happened to be sitting right next to cow Lowery, when he went in his lamp shove them. Let's not excusing it. What I also like understand how someone can blackout in the moment and be like fuck this guy. We're getting our ass kicked. You know what this is a Silicon Valley guy. He's always to all the finest Marceca said he's from the suburbs. Saying he's exposed to all the finest and four K three d technology when it comes to watching these games live. He's probably watched games on his couch, where it felt like the players were diving into his living room. Yes. Who's probably comfortable, shoving at them. Yeah. And getting away with it because they're not real. It's just it's the technology that he has access to. So he's Atta game. He can't he can't tell what's in the matrix and west real life. No. Of course not. He also. No. Okay. Okay. No-go. Hank calm down. Screaming about a no goal Hake. Almost hanged himself on that one. Thirteen minutes left in the game. Paul Pearson little hang in there. The, the other part of the Kyle Lowry going into the stands though woman in the second row, she got lit up. She got jacked on like straight up whiplash concussion neckbrace, but because this fucking little loser, Mark Stevens who probably has more money to buy and sell us a million times over gave cholera little push, that's the story. So I feel bad for her. I did too. It was not even a first row guy. That's right. She's, she's not rich in two point three billion. It was only got like five hundred million at sucks for her socks. It did look like a hit from NFL blitz that she took it was, like know what to her credit. She kinda shoot it. Yeah. She got hit in the thorax, right? Yeah. Right. In the sternum region. And she just like sat down calmly. And then kinda rubbed her shoulder out a little bit Marcus mariota would have been out for the season. Oh, yeah. He would be that he would Marcus mariota. It would turn into a cloud of dust. So he is now going to have to probably sell his stake. He's banned for year. It's got to be really awkward because I've always wanted, like, well, actually we ourselves are my minority stake owners. It is kind of awkward because we know there's guys with bigger swinging Dicks who have more money than us, who, who actually invested in the team and put in the paperwork, and all that shit. Like we haven't that might be a goal, by the way, it's gotta be weird to be that guy who relax affect already walking on eggshells a little bit. I, I actually think in might be. Yeah. Paradox has. Yes, it might be to eat that guy who's already walking on eggshells because he's rich, but he's not the richest he doesn't own the team to then fuck that team over like this. Yeah. It's that's that's going to be a weird. I don't know who even owns the lake of whatever. His name is excellent him the next morning. You gotta be fucking weird. That's that's got it's like you're dumb drunk, buddy, who always fucks up at the party, you really fucked this one. Yeah. And he's just like, hey, man. I'm sorry that. You know, like it took a shit in your pool and broke your and broke your jacuzzi, my bad, and it's like come on, man. Fair's fair Drake, should be allowed to assault. One player in the warriors. Okay. So speaking of Drake. Let's talk about Drake and his war with the warriors are we going to ignore the, the beehive going? We're getting we're getting. All right. Good. That's a big. We're getting their Drake. Burned Klay Thompson by posting a picture of clay, like basically with a bunch of women that I think he might have had sex with own. That was an all time on pretty sick. I guess, I guess, Claes like in a relationship that ended poorly because of his cheating ways, but still Drake basis like clay has a lot of sex, which funny is like clay could come out with a mix tape right now. And absolutely berry Drake Drake would not respond member about your kid that push t said. Yeah. Why isn't anyone? Why haven't any of the warriors done that just gone. Their they're pushy like shoot around and shit. They just kept playing that song on repeat. Oh, really this league I tell you this league. All right. That was a no goal. So, yes, the last thing we need to talk about before we get to fire fest of the week, the bay hive. They have have ruined the this is this actually was the worst game possible for all the richest people in Golden State. You know, the Golden State Warriors, reader, oracle Rena all the richest. Got got one guy had to sell all his shares and be publicly shamed. And then the, the wife of one of the owners re like, basically asked Jay Z, if he wanted to drink because I think Jay z and beyond say, we're their guests, but it was the perfect internet clip. Where beyond say looked very upset right after and the bay hive attacked. And she had to delete, her Instagram she got threaten her life, got threaten with whatever. I've been telling you guys about Yvonne. One single hornet or be I think it's a bad behind win. The P hive starts to swarm on you. I would rather stick my dick in an actual beehive than provoke crossed the bay the bay hive on Instagram, and I think we actually have provoking them right now. No, no, no beehive knows that was that was Hank though, mispronouncing. It is a beehive, Rabat, Henry Lockwood, one at Instagram. He was the one that I put those you could you imagine like the terror. It's basically m night, Sean launched make a movie about it. Like you just go on your Instagram one day and you see, like a couple of bees. And then you then you refresh. And now there's one hundred bees. And then you refresh again it's bazars ten thousand comments. I had like a small taste of at one time during an award show. I think I said something like it was like riana to reintegrate and then beyond say, and I got a little pace of the behind coming at you. They buzzed the little can't imagine. Look the public being in front of the finals game terrifying. She just. Leader, instagram. And she was, I think our life was threatened. They should do a sequel another sequel to my girl where instead of getting sworn by an actual swarm of bees, it just killed by stand you get killed by you by cyber bullying. Yeah. She said, I've never experienced cyberbullying like this. No, duh. I can't believe our players go through this. That, that kids go through this. Well, your plans. No. Not to fuck with beyond. So I think that's kind of on you. Yeah, that they have fun. So fucking funny. Like how many stories come out of each game? It's it's ridiculous. All right. Should we do fire fest week? Oh before we fire fest the week. So we have Jili football coming up later in Paul rebel. If you wanna watch those Jili footfall nine year old and I already said wonderful been watching the game you said during acid can. No, I said it right after two maybe I didn't. But if you wanna watch it parcel goal dot com slash PMT. You can watch Jili football and Paul Rabaul in studio. Jio barstool, gold dot com slash PMT. Hank. Why don't you start with your fire fest, which I'll start with one four you. You wanna go to game seven for your birthday and the Bruins look like they might lose game five as okay? Okay. A lot of time left up. All right at fire fest, say, okay. Anyway, my Firefox, thanks Festus. Having to talk on the number one sports podcast when he'd rather be watching TV do the one that's recorded during the literally like you brought that up. That's true. That's on us in any way that I guess, I was my idea to put it on my fire fest of the week is that I watched a Jonas brothers documentary, and I actually really liked him. On. It's kind of a firefight, do some internal going brothers. Those guys are losers like teenage girls like a mobile, blah, there. You know you think they're just a product of the Disney channel. And it's like then I watched the documentary you realized they were grinding for, like, three years. No, they family had to leave their house and all this shit like, oh, kind of your noble radiations kind of bad ass. Yeah. Tr- nobles kind of every time I go on the train of Mike. What if what if like like you just walk outside, and you're fucked? Yeah. It's like you walk into radiation classroom. Yeah, you're done. And you know, it's really scary is that if it had gone up into the atmosphere of the way that some people predicted, it was going to do, like, Jetstream would have carried the radiation all over the world. Yeah. It's, it's crazy. That I mean, I know why it's highly rated because it was obviously very well done. But man, that's a fucking bummer of a shell like real bummer. Well, we talked really sucked. All right. Other firefighters fire fest of the week. Yeah. That was my best was you like. To join us brothers now. Yeah. Okay. You know, it was my girlfriend. I'm watching Jones for the Dow Jones for losers. And then I, you know, I sat there watching it, and I was there any songs a slap which which songs go you're three thousand. What how many are there? There's three. So one of them's like show biggest soaps blues scored a goal lose your scored a goal. That looks like that might be it. Wow. There's marshawn is crying into a soul. Patch blues, you scored a goal Hank. That had that happened during your fire fats tough year. Firefighters was still open while that happened your fire fest. Got fire fest cooked by your actual team. Yeah. That was you got to clear the puck. Yeah. We're watching you get the puck out. Look be like a trip. It was right there. Play in the Stanley Cup final blues goal. His seventh of the postseason number fifty seven David Peron, Peron nine twenty four. Those those cheek wash who's in the building doing doing the in game announcing for us the arena announcing Hank. That's tough. I should have been a trip that she felt like a trip. He slew footed him. Oh whoa. That was who was. That's Cam nealy. He just fucking rocketed water bottle. I was awesome. Oh man. It's good thing getting thrown into player, you would have been spent for year, Cam nealy, that was wine and Donham sixty nine right? Yeah, yeah. See about because ASI bass. All right, PFC. What are you got my fire fest that we can't? Can you play some like patriotic music underneath this? We'll see. Okay. My fire festival. Week is d day. Seventy five years ago, a bunch of soldiers. The original influencers got a one way ticket to an unforgiving on supplied beach without proper accommodations are return transportation, sound familiar it was the original fire fest. There were no swimming, pigs all they had was the, the German soldiers that the Rangers your Firefox through off the cliff. I'm trying to give respect to the military. Okay. How how long is this? I'm almost done. I'm almost done. So next time you hear quarterback calling an audible take a moment to think about the time, our military saw their weakness in the opponent's defense and responded by screaming Omaha, Omaha. Are you can cut the Pichai? Okay. So you fire fest is d day. It was showing respect to the original fire fest, which was saying by my great uncle. Okay. That's your five fast. Inspire is. Yeah. I don't think that that's how the okay associating the troops with firefight. I'm saying it also if your personal fire fest the week is d day if you think that so you dad then, yes. We'll day was not a fun time if fire. The word it was hurt by fire full, one of the segment is your personal fire fest to make the trivial moments in life and make light of it. No. You just had like the most serious moment and tried to make light of it. Yeah. I thought. Yeah. Absolutely. Right. Okay. Because nobody else was going to show respect to that could have said something just been like, hey. Let's have. Man's gotta take matters into that. All right. My firefighter moment of silence. In a podcast is a great idea. Yeah. We've done that. Kill a lot of time. My fire fest of the week is I went home on, I think Wednesday, Tuesday night, and my cable, then worked for like fifteen minutes. So that was pretty bad stuff. Was it raining? No, I had to unplug the box and plug it back in. That's when you turn on your TV like what's going on? And that I that I like thirty seconds. You're like, oh, it's probably just slow today, speaking in Spanish, and then, and then like a minute and a half later, you're like, oh, something's wrong. And that thought pops in your head where you say, what if my cables, just broken and now I have to deal with calling the cable company and scheduling the hold like thing. And it's not going to be back for days and days and days, it's scariest thing you can happen. But all you have to do usually is just the manual reset. Yeah. No, I did that refined. But he's oh, your brain goes to a bad bad play. You are just like this might be the end. I might just call it quits because I might not have cable for, I know what that's how it's going to happen to Arjun. And that's when. We're going to start actually cutting cords is just it's going to coincide when our cable happens to go out, and we'll just be like you know what I'd rather not deal with this. So I'll just subscribe to online service. Also, there is an element where like the cable person relationship is a very fragile one. And now my trust is at all time low, so I'm like now flinching every time I turn on my TV for at least a week or two. That's a little PTSD from the time that I wasn't able to turn on my TV for a minute and a half, and it's scary time you have cable. Oh, don't even start. Hey, are you court cutter? No. You have cable not knows can have cable. Yeah. You have cable God, you have to watch. The bachelorette true people who are cord cutters are not sports fans. I'm going to say right now because he's you aren't offering you're watching a minute behind like more about the money you're saving. Yes, the actual sports and being up the a real sports fan. I, I mean, I one of my best friends like we almost stopped being friends because he had he cut the cord and I tried to watch a bowl game with him. And it was like does the main reason I moved out of my apartment time. Yeah. We got like the biggest fight ever. I was like I can't do this. Do you know what's great though about watching sports when there is a ten second delay? You can talk yourself out of some very bad live bets because what will happen is you'll be pulling up a live bet line right now and you're trying to lock it in and then you refresh Twitter on your other screen, and you see that the exact opposite thing that you want to happen. Just happened with the problem is the live bet is ten seconds ahead of the real time. So you're twenty seconds. Yeah. In the live bet. So you don't even know where you are. I bet is so far in the fence that no, that's a lot of times. It reminds me that I'm wrong about most things I choose to. Yes in my life. You're saying you're, you're absolutely Chris. It's so far in the future. You can't comprehend it. You're like wait. It's like a total different inning, because my stupid cord cutting ways have made me so far behind all the rest of America fucking losers. All right. Let's get to our interviews Paul rebel coming up here before we get to Paul Rabl. Audible listening makes us smarter. More connected people. It makes us better partners. Parents and leaders and there's no better place to start listening. Then audible audible is where so many inspiring voices and compelling stories. Open listeners up to new experiences and ways of thinking audible members now get more than ever before members. Choose three titles every month. 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You can explore all the ways listening to audible can help improve mind, body, and soul with entertainment information and inspiration. Okay. Here he is Paul rebel. Okay. We now. Welcome on a very special guest. It is Paul Rabl. He is a lacrosse legend. He's also Commissioner. We can read. Yeah. Co-founder founder of the premier lacrosse league, which is starting June. First NBC sports. Are you playing as well? I'm playing the Jackie moon of professional off. So are you. Let's start here. Are you the goat for people who don't like I would say most of our fan base doesn't follow lacrosse, are you the goat know who? Well, I would say Gary gait. Yes. From any with him. Oh, yeah. Kim Brown Brown. What was I think Tom Schreiber Thompson? No, I'm like that Hank out of the gate shrimp. Tom Schreiber plays in our league. Oh, yeah. Better than you, Hank. Hank. Thanks sweet. I thought we were going to be alliance. I walked. When I walked. Future. So do what some people call you the go. Some have on social, okay? And did you win a national title with Johnny did? Okay, janis. How one to well. Would you be for Duke or Duke both? We know a lot more lacrosse in than you think. All right. So my first question is very important question. Because I think everyone is wondering this for a lacrosse goat. Have you ever had like your deepest darkest moments been, like, man, I wish I was really good at a real sport. Yeah. Pretty regularly. Bank. I mean big cat. I was like clawing at you over the last two years to get me on the show. And I'm certain it's because very few people know about professional across so very few. Yeah, I I'm like very empathize to the situation like at least being able to sit in here and talk about it. Good. Because that's a big thing. It's all good. What happens with sports that aren't the major four sports, as you get a lot of please like my sport people. And that turns other people off. Yeah. So I actually think lacrosse communities, a little different every time. I've tweeted about it. It's been a little more welcoming than like MMA or soccer, where people are like you don't know, shit really. Would you say that overall that lacrosse is trying to the fan base is open and welcome to new fans or one hundred percent I would say widely our fan base is still in its nascent stages. Two million participants six million fans. So relative to the core sports, that you guys talk about, it's small, but I've noticed anytime you guys talk about lacrosse or barstool, widely people just. Engage. So like big agencies have put out reports around the cross fans. And they follow other sports more than any other there's like, really good demos that match with it is why we built the league to try capitalize on it. Okay. But yeah, our it would say a vast majority of fans. Listen, this show, they've all been pigmy since your tweet and opinion is I just realized I gave a cliche. Digging deeper. Creator. Right. You're right. You're they're. They're all like Paul. Don't fuck this up. Yeah. On the first across former. So convinced me, why is lacrosse, the sport of the future when everybody knows that it's rugby? Well, well, we actually were built we built our motto. I know you guys were talking about two shows ago, trying to figure out the geo base nature of our teams. And there's no GO attach the teams were tour based so similar to rugby sevens. Register copycats what about fifty? Yes. Some, some good entrepreneurs are, are, are copycats. Yeah. So we were copying that tour base model. It's the only team sport that has done it. But if you look at UFC NASCAR PGA tour, they're all tour base. And so when you're a smaller sport like lacrosse, we needed to capitalize on the players on venues in distribution. And so the reality is we work in a roll out a pro league with twenty owners. They were building venues in blowing this thing out. So it was only really one way to make a large impact. So we had to get creative, and it's hard though, because, you know, you guys like we'll who's the team Chicago's team in New York. Right. And our dog visual sports. Yeah. Are thought was with six teams if we were to label cities to them that we would just be really local and we wouldn't be able to capitalize on this national growth at the sports add so by not attaching a city to a team at some fan in San Francisco and New York can just pick their legion any given. Is it going to be like a weekend? Yes, we can long tournament guy. So we were just talking about this the other week, I was explain. It's actually very easy to understand is not he how. Tournament the score in not at all right. Now you've got a built in fan base at understands because we've discussed it so much, how like Termine. Okay. One team that finishes first they get x amount of points. Is that how so once carry over to the next tournament we should so it seasonal? We should have looked at points. Honestly. But what we did was knowing tour based so all six teams are going to be at Gillette this weekend. And we're playing two games on Saturday one on Sunday all around on NBC and, and three teams will be one zero three teams. We'll be owned one and that's week one then the following weekend, where New York. And then you might have one in one right, wait, not the rugby way. Good. No. That's very complicated. We subscribe, so it's so you have you have three teams that win and then three teams that lose. Right. And that's week one and they're also we have ten regular season games, and all star break, and then playoffs and championship. So you have to make your way the top four on your season record love. Okay. See. I'm confused how you can lose not still win. That's going to be an issue for me to, to get over what will handle that. There's nothing from stopping an entire community. Let's say Chicago, really does love the chaos who are the chaos. So chaos across Quebec other thing we built lacrosse club, so we tried to pull from England and let the EPL and okay league and build clubs because we weren't going to attach to cities. But and then we form the teams based on I university, so a lot of our guys have played for similar universities, you mentioned like Duke in. Yeah. So the whip snakes I know you guys talked about their that's all good. Did you decide that name while I was a part of it? Nice discussion with. Whip snakes, how high was that guy when he said it? What if we just did whip snakes? So, so we felt like reptiles like having a reptile involves was important as all weeks. Okay. And, and a snake in particular kept coming up from like a rattler to a Copperhead or whatever there's a bunch. And so when you talk about cross and Hank probably knows this is that a lot of shots are considered whip. Yeah, yeah. Hey, just saying that the other day. So crank shots. Yeah. Craig's. It was unbelievable. Did he want us ever get on the table there? No never on the tape. What about Komodo dragons or something like that? No. But I, I did a science project on Komodo dragons, when I was younger go on. I would have been. Oh, I built a Komodo, dragon paper, Michelle. What about fire? It wasn't actually. Okay. Firesale. There should be a fire salamander team. Yep. We're considering doing Pyros for player intros. Oh, okay. I like that Avas the week. Give us the team names all six. Okay. So you have archers atlas chrome, chaos whip snakes redwoods, king got a problem with the atlas, okay? Because then like that's the team I play for. Okay. But it's so dumb people like me when you're like the atlas is the atlas I how do I plural is? Well, I think we can make it official on this show. We just call it at lie at lot paranoid. Just quote you on it. That's out lilac. Ron. I brought and had I well, it's atlas across okay the at lie, but we didn't go to shirt at lie. Yeah. Okay. So atlas whip snakes chrome, or Internet Explorer or anything like that. Awesome. Yes. So chrome was was initially and one because we were looking at the Steelers. Okay. So we looked at a lot of other teams is crazy. I would've loved to have have you guys been a part of the process, because their brains on it. Excellent tell us we'll we'll help but we'll have expansion teams. Hopefully, yes, but, but yeah. So we, we were looking at other organizations across team sports leagues in the Steelers kept coming up. But there's so much. I p that's already stripped out of the market from college teams and universities to other pro leagues. Yeah. I mean, I would assume the New Zealand breakers have some type of trademark. Yeah. So you can't do breaker time. Yeah. Yeah. Can't, you know, whip snakes actually sounds like a New Zealand. We wait. So whip stakes. Wait. So whip stakes chaos at lie. Archers archers chrome chaos. We cast his part of it. Chaos is a team in the Premier League. Yes. Correct. Got it. So. Okay. So I have a K I like the chaos. Yeah. All right. So erica. So, so. Yes. So erica's actually, on the border deriding negotiate a trade overto- chaos for myself do that yourself. Yeah. So can we own one of these teams? That's most important question. I think we, if we own a team that care, it doesn't even have to be real real questions. Can we say that we own it? Yeah. We can we can figure that out. Okay. I'd like to discuss that. Yes, I have no problem with long enough to do it on the podcast right now all negotiation. So I'd like to also put on the table, having you guys call a quarter on NBC. Okay. Yeah. For games Daikin use my mental. It's not it's not ESPN okay? And the distribution for the NBC main broadcast one hundred and fourteen million dollars homes shit. Yeah. Okay. So you're. So you're in. Yes. Okay. In for calling games long as it's gotta be close. I don't want to travel, so yes. Waste energy on. The is it a problem? Can we make the game in the barstool isn't a problem for us having money on the game openly as we're home not a project? Okay, good. Make that rule. Right. There'd be gambling on it. We're working on it. Okay. So it's, it's huge. Part of the problem is professional lacrosse has existed for eighteen years. But it hasn't really been professionalized, and that even accounts for stat keeping so when we approach MGM and a lot of the casinos, and then draft canes fan duel, their odds makers are looking at all the data and they're like, well this ground balls. Miss capped. This assist is miscast. So we've got to develop a years worth of stats before we get one of those partners to come in and game affi-. Okay. But we will we're gonna get about. All right. So we're one hundred percent in all right. So doesn't win. If we don't have yet. Absolutely. So I want to veer little off here from from the league right now. I want to do a little bit about. You're like career in the cross so that people are familiar. So you when did you start playing the cross when I was twelve and did you play other sports? Yes. Okay. What, what was your best second sport? I actually sucked at lacrosse, for most of the early years candidate. And I wanted to quit and my mom would drive me to practices back when you would practice once a week and play on a weekend. I didn't play club sports. So I played basketball and soccer, and we're better at those I thought this was pre MLS, so I didn't really have much look up to for MLS. And then I figured out pretty quickly. I wasn't gonna play in the NBA. And then when I was in ninth grade, I just started like things started clicking on the field and lacrosse. So I just dropped everything else. Right. Okay. So you, you play you start getting good. At ninth grade, you go to college. Now when you are in college in your dominating and you're winning national titles. What is like the conversation? I'm always curious about this. What's the conversation with all the guys on the team about, like can we continue our career? Where does this go? Or do we just go get a job like everyone else? It's usually go get a job like everyone else, okay? There was. There was a league that we, it's called MLS. So we actually tried to buy the with our capital partners. And so churning groups and investor, you guys know Pete, and then erica's in advisory go with P PD. I wouldn't do that. I don't okay. But as a good call. Can we cut that out? So so, so it used to be there used to be a different league. We tried to buy them. Yeah. You said you for a long time. I played it for ten years. But to your question when I graduated from Hopkins took a job in real estate because my rookie wage in that league was six thousand dollars. Wow lived in my parents house page, how many games I live in my parenthood are how many how many games were you were you getting paid six thousand dollars for for the season? So how many games in a season then then it was it was twelve games in a season and what you max out at what was your best salary playing lacrosse professional, the maximum salary last year with sixteen thousand she's not. You are really like building something from the ground up here. So I was in I was in real estate. And then I got my first endorsement back in two thousand nine with Under Armour and then red bull, and I was building, like a social media profile, and so connecting with lacrosse audience, because none of it was ever on television outside of the college final four. You guys saw. Yeah. And then I left my job in real estate. 'cause I looked at that it was like basically twenty grand combined in sponsorship, revenues. I got a, a place in Baltimore split it with three buddies, and then I just started trying to figure out pro across. Okay. And, and Bill check is, is he a mentor of yours or just a friend or how does that work? He grew up playing across in Annapolis, and he used to come to Hopkins practices. And at one point, he actually guests coached, which was pretty fucking cool. That's awesome. So and you know, because you'll see people come to practices in all leagues. How you Jeet lacrosse? How did he try to do that? How did he try to cheat? Yeah. I don't know get to play the balls and lacrosse, no, no. That's why I got out. We're both skins fan. So, okay. Yeah. Yeah. In theory, not really Dan, Snyder fan, not a huge Snyder fan. No but team. Yes, they get good again. I'll be love the Gibbs era. Yeah. Gives her what you did. You ever go to RFK, of course? See the stadium the stands bouncing to Art Monk. Gary clark. Yeah. Guys, Mark rip in earnest Byner. Yeah. Rippin back in ninety one. We can talk about skins all day back. Good team to root for. Yeah. So so, so, so, so belch I came down he coached a game. It comes to a practice and then we'd go to the locker room and we thought he was going to be, hey guys keep up the good work. And he looked at us. And he goes, you guys are fucking division one athletes. Right. Really? Yeah. He was like, then passing catch the fucking ball. He was like Jesus Christ. I've been playing this game my half of my life. At least, and I haven't touched a stick in in twenty years, and I can catch and throw a better than you guys. Remember we were like all right. That's awesome. Yeah. We're kind of pumped because he would just got. Pep talk from Bill Belichick. Yeah. And then when I graduated, he, we stayed in touch at one point, I considered trying to do what Chris HOGAN, did you guys know Chris okay played lacrosse? How much does a guy like Chris HOGAN, help lacrosse, oh, in a huge way? Yeah. Yeah. So he's a couple of years younger than me, and he basically did what I wanted to do or consider doing and probably wouldn't have been able to do it because he stuck it out. But yeah, it's, it's good. Because it shows the caliber of athlete that our sport has absolutely we have a guy like miles Jones, who consistently gets offers to come out to OTA's from NFL teams, Tim sandwich who played three years in the NFL. He tried out at our training camp last week. So there's, there's a lot of like athletes. Patrick Carney grew up playing lacrosse, he loves it. Yep. Become robinson. Yeah. Gross straight stud anxious rejoice phone cut his phone out. Yeah. All right. We were talking about before the show. Is it hard to stay in elite shape as you're, you know, you do have day job most of these guys in the league have day jobs. How often do you practice when you when you were with major league lacrosse? Yeah. You practice once or twice a week. So you're pretty much on your own. But honestly when you look at even the NFL they've limited hitting so much that getting in shape is primarily off season preseason. And then you just kind of stay in shape or, you know, when you go into practices, you're watching film, and doing walk, throughs. Maybe some skeleton work but the actual you know, the, the actual hitting and team practices. I mean the NBA is just as walk-throughs baseball just as bad in practice. So. Right. I think it's the allure of it, though. I mean you got to be together, right? Yeah. For the fans to buy. Yes. So all right. So you you're in the league is obviously not paying, like huge bucks like every other league. At what point we like you know what I wanna start my only like, when did that kind of switch the light bulbs? Switch on so. Oh, that conversation started in two thousand probably sixteen but it was primarily around, like, hey maybe we should buy a team. Let's look at what an ownership position would look like in the middle. And then the more we looked at that we realized that you're pretty pretty handcuffed in that regard for a number of reasons. So then we switched over to potentially purchasing the league and my brother who had spent most of his time in San Francisco as an entrepreneur, he had just coincidentally left his latest job. So we put our heads together. We're like, let's give this thing a run. But you never know you're gonna do it until you actually raise the capital. Right. So it's all conceptual right in conversations and, and then end of twenty seventeen it became real, and then we started having conversations with players under NDA, and it became like a pretty groundswell moment. And then the rest of the community remained quiet about it. Whereas like it was the, the worst kept secret in the cross for all two thousand eighteen but we were all still playing an Emmolo at that time. And I think a lot of the ownership group. I all that new when we walked away from where they walked away from a deal opportunity in two thousand seventeen and we were going to try to build one, but they were just like look, it's really hard. Right. That's a power move, though, to start your own league immediately. Try to purchase your former league right off the bat. That's a flex. What were they like, what were they like a little bit insulted that you said that we want to take over your league? Yeah, they were. And I understand why. Because we're like a couple of players, my brother didn't play. But he's still thirty five years old. And, and we like walk into a room with guys who have been trying to figure it out for eighteen years. So we were really sensitive around that. And we had great investors that we disclosed after we announced to. So it wasn't like, hey, Mike. And I got this thing figured out, get out of the way, thanks, but I'm sure they there were some of them that probably interpreted it that way. But the reality is a noncompetitive market would would make it a lot easier than even us playing this weekend and MO having games because they're still around. Right. So we have one hundred sixty players. So this is great. So there's been basically a three year process leading up to I think we're gonna run this next week. So where's the next week's New York, New York, Lorena great? So if you listening right now they're gonna have the red bull Rena for the weekend, you can come out. You can boo. Alright. Well, if he doesn't score for the chaos the outline, but I might be on chaos. We might get back yet. So I mean that's crazy. I mean it it's hats off to you man, because like that's a, that's a big risk that you talk. And this is all kind of leading up to this moment, where everything is coming out. And it's like this is the new leak. Yeah, it's it's it is very risky. But when you get all the best players to come, and then you have investors that back you just operating this thing's really fucking hard, because they're so I mean, you're, you're running a media business. You're running a sponsorship business. You running to take business and merchandise business in a youth business all at once. So we have now thirty five fulltime employees, but fifty people working in the org and it's just like every day is a grind, right. I mean we, we were launching this weekend in Boston, and we'll be in New York like you said. But and we have, you know, great capital behind us. You know, but it's just, you know, it's so what's, what's the biggest metric that you guys are going to be watching to know because we've seen with, you know, whether it's the af or other leagues that have started recently is, like, okay, there are certain things that are more important than than others. In terms of long term viability for the league. And so are you going to be paying close attention to ticket sales ratings merch sales Twitter Twitter? Yeah. Whether or not mean big cat tweet about us as influence easily will easily be so outs. Yeah. He does have the keys to the part of my take account. So if you see many lacrosse tweets probably. Which one of those things are are more most important to you, as you're like kind of taking the temperature of the league. Yeah. Seeing how healthy it is. Yeah. So af it as you guys, probably know we're like underground building a technology business for sports betting. Yeah. And they got out of the gates earlier than they would have liked because of the XFL, so they wanted to beat them to the punch for, you know, offseason football, and that was risky by them. But they were building a gambling business. We're, we're building a sports league. That's, that's, that's generating kind of enterprise value around revenue from sponsorship and tickets. But we measure our success by media, so viewership across NBC engagement across our social, what we're doing across digital Howard activating through our players. So single entity is what the tour based model is, but it also gets us as close to possible as like the UFC. Yeah. Which we follow them over the last fifteen years, and they built it. And you know linear decade to before social. Came out, but they got behind their players, and they told their stories. So it's definitely in our investors notice. It's at ten year, build to try and get there. And I think our one of our biggest obstacles it isn't tied to revenue. It's it's kinda peel for lacrosse, which put itself in the gutter for a number of reasons of the last decade or so. How stereotype name? Yeah. Yeah. The Chattan Brad's and it's just it's, it's rose. Yeah. Totally it's tough to shake. Or you could just totally turn into the skit and just rename everybody on each team and call them all like Bradley's make it a safe space for like white dude's. We talked about and go Goff does. Right. I mean, they've basically embraced being in that space, right signs, Tiger Woods. Right. Right. Who and Brooks Kafka's interview was awesome. But under to us well patronage him. Yeah, I guess the interview yeah, you did the pander. But I mean, it is if you would have been easier, but we're trying to do is basically unchain are athletes, because they've been groomed almost like college coaches are an all-sports to give this political interview after games until how great their opponents are to be button up and wear polo shirt, and like all this other shit that, that isn't pro sports. Yeah. So by getting them miked up getting cameras in their face encouraging them to talk shit about their opponents. Like that's what the US's huge. That's what we're doing personalities win free ideas, we, we actually met with the dumbest ideas that might actually work if you just released like a hypothetical lineup from one of your teams and they're all like Preston Brantley, the fourth down say names, that goes viral, you get the engagement you like actually those aren't the real names. Here's a real rosters that would have been. So he can still do that. Yeah. Should we differ all star? Yeah. And have it be like each team like Duke, Virginia. Duke Virginia, Virginia. John. What are you? I heard you guys talking about the rules set to go. So that's a that's a big question. I have for you is, what is the basic understand, understanding of, like lacrosse, and how it's played that the general pop populist doesn't understand that you're trying to break through what's complicated? It's a lot like hockey in these random to line calls and offsides. And it's tough to track the ball or the puck during the broadcast that we looked at innovation on the broadcast, and then we looked at basically creating this like lacrosse for dummies, essentially, right. So you have to goals you have a ball you know as as of you're that one teams got to put the ball in the net. More really doing the dummy thing. Yeah. Okay. Well, that's where we started. And then we were like, okay. Why is a whole different than across check different than across whole different than a trip? So we like scull illegal body checks. Why, why previously, I DMZ this white previously do fight? Take place in their objections. But there's fights in the NHL and the NFL let's allow fighting. So there's fighting there's fighting you should've started with that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So there's there's, there's fighting a little bit, Stu. It's mechanical though, I'll say equipment can't come off. Okay. Yeah, that's good. You get tested, probably. But we have some tough guys. Are you ready to fight? You got a lot. I fought in the indoor game that I played professionally for a little bit. And it was probably like fifty fifty okay because tough guy in there. You gotta fight like, yeah. Week one. Yeah. To get out there. You, you know that right? I had the league you have to fight. Yeah. It's probably a good. Okay. All right. I also wrote down for dumb idea. Have you ever had like a dick pic leaked? I haven't okay? You should do that. People be like Paul rebel who the dick yet. Dick, dick, Draymond green. That's the problem is, I'm also the co founder, so it could go south pretty good. That's even more publicity. Yeah. Right. And people at player and co-founder what the hell. Gets people talking. So it's a fact. So we have a shot clock. The college games, investors eighty seconds. What is that? It's like why even have a shot clock wild? I didn't even know there is that new rule. Yes. And fast, how new year. Okay, because I knew that when I turned it on, on on Monday Memorial Day, I was like, what a shock LA so you guys have shocking shock. It's fifty two seconds. That's random. It's yeah. I liked that. Yeah. That's what we went for. Okay. Yeah. The old fifty two. Yeah. We, you know, non data driven just throw out of shot clock number. Now, what counts is a shot though. Because you have to hit on that on that or you hit the goalie. Those are probably the craziest players in the game is these guys standing with just simple. Chest protector and sweatpants. So we love that they were swept. Yeah. Some of the cool thing that it's relatable its mandate. It what am I call? Long at all. Bloggers sweatpants, and yet, I've got I've got two rules here. One it's kind of like the puck track. But just make sure that the bulls are neon yellow, that's exactly what we're doing. Okay. Let's get right from tennis. Okay. Actually took it from PF t took it for me. By the way, what do you think tennis balls are off to kill? Okay. There you go. Finally, we solve all the right answer. Also. I don't know if there's figure out that Pantoja was damn near impossible. Yeah. You gotta get revealed tweet it. Uh-huh. Fantoni. That'll be big. I'm telling you that will be big. So I don't know if it's possible to the live games. But I know you can't replace maybe look at the lives, make it like a video game where the player that has the ball has a little circle around them as they're running like on the ground. You know how in Madden when running back has the NHL did that during the all star game. Do you like it? I didn't see that. Yeah, yeah. But all I know is that when I've watched lacrosse on TV it's hard. It's very tough to tell who has the ball because you can't see it, when it's in the twig. What do you call Kerry? They used to call it the cross, but those across. What's the pouch called netting netting pocket? The actually I don't know why netting, every lacrosse player listening. Swimsuit. I, I signed with red bull a while ago. The they were they weren't in team sports much. And when we once we did the deal, they're like, okay, give your helmet to us. So we can paint it, and I was like, well, you can't because we're team and I have to wear my team logos. And there, I can then might be a dealbreaker man. Us like wait. What's going on there like, and they had figured out? There was not in team sports. Much. Yeah. Like round give it. So we we're actually we're, we're exploring painting are going home. It's like hockey nice. We have a two point arc, so, right? Other ideas. More than one point. Yeah. Yes. It's fifteen yards. Okay. What about kind of like a three point arc? What about the dive dives allowed guys dive in Greece, and Scorpio, airborne creased. What about when you allowed to hit and lacrosse at any moment? When the balls either loose in your near the ball or someone has the ball and you can hit him as a defender. So you can just run up just like the smoke someone with the ball. Yeah. You I mean you can't like take someone's head off. Can you do that in college or no? There they, they call it tighter. Okay. We did this thing with John Branca's down at IMG, who's the sport science guy, and he did four episodes, trying to decode a lot of the science behind the cross is a lot of people just don't know. So one of the things that we measured was amount of force per pound of square, inch or per square inch of force. Their defender, gives when he checks forearm and one of these offenders. We have his name's Tucker Durkin. He cut through four karate. Virginia. He went to Johns Hopkins. This guy looks like Luke. Keithly exactly like Keithly. And anyway, cut through four karate boards. Holy shit. It was it was pretty intense. Yeah. I'll show you guys the video, actually of, of at some point what he did to because we had a player stand in and just stand like a statue and soak one from Tucker. And. Wasn't good. Yeah. That was a hockey term. You have to be a psycho just to volunteer for that job. Come on top. Yes. It's going to be more of a running gun leaguer often out. I think that's that's the same thing. Oh, yeah. So, yeah. Running gun. And so what we've done is actually took ten yards out of the middle of field. So guys can go from one or the other quicker is a field just so up and out. Oh, yeah. Exactly like that kind of more question we'll get the best Fogo in the league Fogo the at lie for sure. What's Fogo face off get off? Yeah. Thank you. Guys. Okay. So we have Trevor Baptiste and he's a beast. Okay. And so he's he was he, he was a face off guy for team USA. Got it. And I may or may not have had something to do with him being on my team nights. Stack your team? So, so give us give us some lacrosse league. I would say you guys probably know it having listened to your show. Bunch more than me. But lettuce yeah, I'll talk a little bit of technique, you have a cradle. You have a whip you have a crank shot. You have what's difference between lettuce and flow. They're, they're pretty similar. Okay. Just like Minnesota hockey here. Yeah. That's gonna have short hair, but have, you know, flow, the lettuce, I figure it's going to go. Good point. Hang out of the helmet. Are you are you legislating to Paul to you? You ask the question as as flow, but not let us. Yeah. I used to have. It used to have long hair. Okay. I did everything I could to try to get myself in the sport out there when I was younger. I was a sell out really total across like no. I didn't I didn't go into the vernacular as much. But, you know, I just I mean, I was building a YouTube channel and posting on social media and I still post a lot. But I was posting all the time, just because I sense that it wanted never existed before like communication from pro to fans and then a lot of athletes have narcissism in them. But I was I was I was indexing their hard. And then I know you guys have a small feud with, with dude perfect. Yeah. Oh you did. I did that. The, the gift that you posted on Twitter was of me hitting that watermelon do perfect. No, don't delete it. You like to do perfect guys. I did an edit with them center views always your favorite Jami Hobie blow toward the big cats leading into it. Because head twenty seven million views on that, and that the largest video so, but this is now the largest show every every time we do something new. It seems like after this league. It's like the sport had never had a chance to even be on PMT. No. Definitely. Don't delete that tweet. Okay. But I you know, I love bro. Sweet. How many have you owned GPS? Yeah. To. And of course. Yeah. Is that that standard you get one of those? I mean it's, it's, it's, it's comfortable it's spacious and it's cheap. I was making six thousand dollars. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I guess you fucked up back. You know, I can't sit in a car is true. Yeah. Would you do L four zero five five s one fuck that sucks? Man, that's kind of like what I did. But not at all, obviously, you need to capture new audience, but there's already a pretty big audience of people that have played lacrosse that have watched lacrosse are already fans of the sport. But where you draw that line in terms of like pandering to a brand new audience can sometimes alienate people that already know about sports, like I know what goal is. You don't have to explain to me like how you decided where to put that long. Yeah. We're a little bit split there. So we're going to figure it out and week one because we have Brendan Burke, who does the islanders games. He's our he's our play by play. Paul burmeister. Does the Olympics for NBC and then Ryan boils like our Tony Romo? He's like all-time across player everyone a championship he. Call. Yeah. Just got not Tony Romo. But they they'll probably do some type of education during the broadcast, but a lot of our fans do get pissed about that. Because the, the college commentators do that a little bit during the final four and I always see tweets going out and be like, hey, we know what just took place. We like we know that went out of bounds and the other team gets it, right. It's also a little bit of fun watching a new sport and figuring out some of the stuff as your why like when you have that moment, this is why this guy has the ball right now or this is why there's a face off that sort of thing like, if you figure out while you're watching it, obviously, you need to educate people a little bit about some things through my experience, as a rugby fan. So when it's a World Cup on TV for me to understand all right? Yeah. Or if it's, you know, the college rugby championship, or whatever it is that, that is on TV for wide audience. What I don't like is when they say, oh, this is like a jump ball and basketball. Yeah. When they related too much to another sport that they assume that just sounds thirsty. It does sound a little bit thirsty. If you do it too much. I think it's important to do that a little bit because you could do have to, like, our, our knowledge base is based on, you know, the major four sports. So when people do say little things like that, it does help understand it a little like offsides. And, you know, the, the you just explaining how you can hit at anytime. Right. Like I didn't know that scrap the break his piece where. Yeah. So all that money down. All right. Questions. It's a secret question. Go to a premier lacrosse league tournament or game game. Yeah. Not tournament game on one of the given weekends New York as the one coming up this weekend, as it airs put in promo code taking at ten dollars off your seek purchase. So my last question is how much cash do you have on you right now? Question. Good question. Probably seventeen bucks. That's it. That's it. What about what about Brett how much how much cash does he have on them, zero? Well everything everything on credit. I was gonna I was going to offer a tweet from PFC and myself on the first weekend for the right amount of cash, seventeen not to right. Amount of cash. I'll, I'll go to the ATM. No. Yeah. I'll like it. Tweet for five dollars. You'll like it sweet for five dollars. But what if I just goes, re tweet his new algorithm? What if? We're going we're going to we're going to try to line. You guys up to call quarter really want to do that. Yes. Yes. Yeah. That'll be a lot of fun. Yes. People will hate us, the, you know, who's really going to dislike it who ESPN. Oh, yeah. But every you'll be on NBC but everyone's going to hate us. Every sorry doesn't seem like people. Hey, we don't know the rules though. I'm saying, like, hardcore crouches great. Yeah. That, that will be the part. I think a lot of people will tune in and like it, but I think there will be some hardcore lacrosse fans. It'd be like fuck these guys because we will probably make fun of cross. Yeah. Yeah. For sure. I was walking in here. And, and, and like Erica was like, you know, the sport of the future thing is kind of tongue in cheek. And I'm like, I know. Yeah. He's like, hey Klopp, literally, so he walked out in the biggest lacrosse fan. You literally left five minutes ago, not here we go. I'm excited. I mean credit to you, man. Like, we, it's obviously a little tongue in cheek but seriously credits you helluva risk. And putting it all in here. I, I'm all in for more SP I'm a big believer in more sports is always better. And we think that even even with this model that we built which is different and it's tour based, and it's not an established border, of course, sport like the NFL the NBA, but we think this is a launching pad to then going a city based model. So it's not like we're like, hey fuck that cities don't matter. They do and Rite Aid your way. But if you don't have the number of participants in viewers already baked in, you don't have the owners, so this tour based model allowed us to get Gillette, red bull Rena and not be stuck to these, like, local small venues, because af came out, and it was like I don't care about fucking, San Antonio. Right. It's just hard right, like right? You think like if you come to New York. All of a sudden, people are going to be supporting you. Right. And just that that's like generational. Yeah. So is this league more player friendly would say? Yeah. Our players have equity. I liked that. I liked that a lot. We gave our players increased wages healthcare as well, and that equity. Yeah, look at you gridlock. Cool eight Boston. We will tune in at some point we were going to call a game supporter, I, yes, one hundred percents everyone. Tune in NBC sports premier lacrosse league coming to your TV watch interact tweet and do everything in and listen for us. That interview with Paul rebel was brought to you by ZipRecruiter. What if you had your own personal recruiter to help you find a better job now? Ziprecruiter's technology can do that for you. Just download the ZipRecruiter job search app. Let it know what kind of jobs. You're interested in and its technology starts doing the work this ZipRecruiter app finds jobs you like, and it puts your profile in front of employers who may be looking for someone like you if an employer likes your profile ZipRecruiter, let's, you know, so if you're interested in the job, you can go ahead and apply. 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We love this day every year. Shannon, we have more call. We do. Let's go to D ADD eating. Oh, sorry, eighty e knows about what say you had a comment for you to talent. Hurry. These I gave it to him. But now you had heard redneck sassy before, so you need to come to the eastern part of the states here that. That's fair can't is. Rednecks, sassy hell ya spy? Yeah. Second. I gotta go sorry for you. Not family has owned taller for years and years, and there is a cemetery at the beginning, when I put any road in, there's a major battlefield, just like a mile up the road, they used part of that he'll during the civil war. There are several Amort Braves and even Indian bureau grace up there, and when they took the new road in they moved the cemetery, but not all of the grace, correctly and the soldiers. So it's we think for years, we've seen soldiers from time to term and different weird things have happened. So when they went to put a plot up on back from the graveyard about a quarter mile, maybe to make a house seat. Well, it was my grandfather about a few minutes later, he got killed and again thought so it went to not uncool, five years later. He was in a gun fut- and had a car wreck and he got killed. So then it went to his voice. Well, they turned out having the worst like it or my one cousin caught his wife cheating on him. It was awful. So now then my mom bought it. Well, she had a booming business and. Probably like eight ten years later, it burned to the ground. Does everyone lived up there has, and there's a lady in white dress. That's also been saying on the house seat and strange things do happen in the house like chairs moving every so often, or you know just unexplained noises and, and things happening. When you sail this stuff, especially when Utah, send the Indian barrow burial ground. That's a real wild card when because I mean all you have to do just look at FedEx field and Redskins history quarterbacks. There's a lot of bad grizzly injuries that can happen on, on a place like that. Now, when it comes to this specific location, if you own property that a graveyard is on. Do you actually own the dead bodies to is that like a toss like we're going to throw these in and I really don't know the answer to that, that I know that there has been people that have passed away. My grandma has rental properties to the holiday. And when I've been type people that pass away that don't have family or nothing. She'll let him be buried up there. You know, just out of respect for them and. You know, the county or whatever usually pay for it, or does it, and then, but a lot of the grave, we've had to rent a few people all treasure hunters, and with a metal detectors, and we try to respect the guard, you know, we don't want anybody to serving it, we have found. So, you know, shales from the civil war, and trees and stuff that we've collected over the years. But yeah, we try to, you know, keep, you know trust. Festers off of it except for people that have family up there because we want it respected. But my understanding is when they put that new road in, they did not respect the civil war soldiers that were buried up there. There's supposedly buried in all of them on top of each other in one spot. I have a couple of questions for you. Quick questions. One, what is holler? A Holly, a lot of people call it, a hollow that around here, it's a hauler it is, basically a valley in between to most people call it now names that I know around from around here, but they're actually heels because they aren't toll enough to be nouns, and there's usually a crate in it similar. Number two, who owns the holler now? Grainy and along ankle and how I guess, won't you own it. So we're talking to you right now. I had it tasted property on it, but I live on I live down in the valley. I'm I'm no. That's not on this house for nece. And it's a huge house. So who right now, do you think might be cursed nam, because not about six eight years or something like that, after getting her house Bill, and but she what she had financial problems with the house then built? But once they got it built moved in there. It wasn't a few years later in their business burned to the ground, then a plus in my house, also burnt a like a two years before that. So my last question was you mentioned the gun fights is like a dual, or we're talking about duel how what happened with the gunfights? Hey, well, not saying life fought for years with another local family that don't make that we all related to Greg Simba. I'll just throw that in there. But not not on the good set either Mussad that loss that. That my great grandfather was a share fear once but anyway, so the families, they fought for years, I can remember bits and pieces of it have to hot at times in the house, when the other family called and said they were gonna shoot our house. And so, my grandfather and this other man were at an eagles club because he's he was a veteran and I think the other gentlemen was too, and they put out and they're gonna and the guy shot my grandfather and my grandfather shot and killed him. So this is like do. You have like a whole thing going with these people. You see, when you see one of the family members if fade on site. No. Not. Now it's I mean that's been, you know, when I was I'm talking like when I was, I guess, in the eighties early. Eighties is Manal this was going on. It started because of a bunch of people caught. My uncle out, I feel like a like five or six guys, and they beat him up. So when you bait one of us up, or hurt one of us, the whole family gets involved. What's the way to stop that? Yeah. I mean, how do you get together was there like a council to you? Do you do parlay like pirates? It just if you they would go to each other's house. They've thought argue beat each other and just keep getting more and more in a my actually my cousin my that got killed with not ankle. He actually spent and Grange for killing the man son. Over shooting Manson, Vermont, a dim kitchen, Manco out by itself, who's basically like a little mini war that's been going on Kentucky. So when you do keep law enforcement out of this is this one of the situations where the local sheriff's just like you know what she's related to the local sheriff yet, but things where we're law enforcement's like, hey, they're gonna fight, and it's best to just stay out of it. Yeah, they used to and I was younger, but now like I said, most my Grandpa's gone goes gone, you know, so they've calmed down over the years and gotten older. So, you know, but back in the day they didn't touch it. They didn't touch us. My great aunt, which is well known around here, she sought to man like an inch from there. You know, what's, and they wouldn't come over there. I mean my grandfather was the only one that can do anything with their and I'm talking like Marilyn Monroe looking youthful woman who were daisy dukes and a tank, top, like one in little tiny, bikini tops, you know, with the big forty five or thirty eight pistol in her pants and she's lost everybody coming down the hall, and you had to stop and if she didn't like you. She would either tell you get lost or she'd sheet, you. I would much rather have the tell me to get lost. Yeah. How many did you shoot? How many we, we did she shoot ding-dong Hughes, pretty good shoot? Yeah. So she missed him within a couple inches, just so they know you know, they, they walked around with the land. The one man did walk around with win for the rest of his life. I was gonna say b. Ended the hauler there's two sides. And the whole end was nothing but in a rate and Billy lots they was all frayed to her finally shave Kennedy said now. Where'd you shoot him? At this time, me, she said, rolling over and pulled any fancy, and you'll find out sureness they wrote him over. And that was the whole end of the hauler. What is that? Hey, wonder hallway that's one Rick potato hole end then tire? And here it is. Yeah. That was reds that this, this Ahler so big. It has Teesside's to and the creek separates Assads. You have have you ever shot anybody? I should probably not answer that bully. Don't do not. I had never shot anybody that I've been taught to suit since I was about six seven years old. Okay. Well, eating thick the call. That was fantastic story. Appreciate it that, that made a survey. Yeah. Yeah. That was awesome. All right. Let's go to John short. John short John S. What's up John s feel great mannequins? Thank you. Thanks agreed. Any and Billy Cunningham. So I come from. See that again. Sorry, cutting have they tend Sean Hannity is often three to six of Billy Cunningham, okay, greed. Don't understand what you're saying, but let's keep fan of Sean Hannity. Oh, god. I would like to retract my agreed. Yeah. Well, not he is ok p left t- mega. Somebody has to be the, the, the lib on the show. Now that match Jones is taken, French vacation of five weeks off a year. So wants to be a bleeding heart liberal. So what do you got you on short? Essay was millionaires winning table. Maintaining is more important than being a millionaire. So when he so that's. All players are one and done. We don't need one does everybody needs come back plenty of four years like it used to be. Going with that line of reasoning. Would you say the coach cow? Now we're talking about John cale here is he on the hot seat knowing needy, knowing eighty no indeedy high. But he hasn't won in the NBA ring. John cale is not wanted him NBA rings. I know. And I know he has also I wanna get out to. And when somebody is out to Shelby. We're, we're Shelby at adult. No two. Oh, can we do? I, I should say there. Did we lose Shelby? If anybody out there has seen Shelby we need to track them down. Is it a dog or human? Human being you his car. Our school is it offer. Selvi. Okay. Who gives head out to you? That's all we look like he was descriptors. So we can try to find Shelby. We don't know where he is. Sheree. He. Okay. Shelby. If you're listening to this right now. Please call in there a bunch of people out there. John short are worried sick about, you know, call into the show, yet call into the show. We'll get Shelby on the show and just make sure that she's doing okay Keller John Schwartz is giving her a shout out because there's nothing worse than giving a shoutout. And that person never finding out that they got shouted out. That clip from Kentucky sports radio show to match Jones was brought to you by twenty three and me. 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Job notes, not an an one eight, but they did call it. I know you. You saw that there should be an an one in football. And in hockey, well, they I mean whenever there's a penalty like that the goalie comes out so they can they can play with an odd man. While the while the ref has hand up. I Mike Greenberg rule for right now. If the top of my head. Yeah, if a wide receiver catches a touchdown pass interference. The extra point should be worth two. Yeah. I like that a lot. I like that. All right. So let's get to some segments. This is going to be an insane end of the game. And you're gonna get to watch it with us. So you're gonna get to relive it. If your blues fan, you're gonna love this, if they win if you're Bruins fan, you're gonna hate this, if they lose, but it's going to be an electric end to the game goes to overtime. It's going to be very mysterious is going to be very missio have to tune into Monday show to find out who won this game and came six segments thoughts and prayers Levy on bell. Yeah. So he got five hundred thousand bucks worth of jewelry stolen by two of his girlfriend's, so they teamed up together kind of notions to type deal. They waited till he left and they just ransacked his house. And he knows exactly who was, I guess, but they got away. They've been quite yet. Right. So, and I feel like when you have if you have two girlfriends or if you're a woman, and you have to boyfriends, eventually, they're going to team up and rob, you of all your well, either that or they're going to go after each other. So they re I like to think it happened, like you see in a lot of movies where they got real mad at each other and start swinging. And then they accidentally knocked over a framed picture of Latvian. Yeah. And they both looked at it looked at each other like we shouldn't be fighting. We're on the same team. They knocked over a framed picture Levy on it. And it split open. And it was just like cash underneath hid behind the frame. Yeah, whoa. Exact AAC it all you need to take all this stuff. I, I actually have a theory that if you own five hundred thousand dollars worth of any product, people should be allowed to steal it, if they can get their hands on it. And what if you own five hundred thousand dollars worth of cash? No, that's different. Okay. She said any product, but any, any any singular product? Okay. You should be like, for example, like five hundred thousand one Howard, snakes five hundred thousand dollars worth of cancer medication. Yeah. That's the nobody needs that much fucked up. It's Martin Shkreli that's fucked up. So like with Russell with one pill, you could steal Airmont monarchs from Russell Wilson all five hundred thousand five hundred thousand dollars worth or penicillin from Jimmy Garoppolo. Yeah. He's going to need that. All right. So we have a respect the biz. And that's about the Stanley Cup final today. No chara has a broken jaw, he can't speak. And he still met with the press in answered questions by writing down his answer class act. That's a. Way to go. That's that might be my s- my sports. Person of the year sports at sports respect her of journalism of the year sports player who respects journalism the most of the year. You win one free ticket to go. See Bruce Springsteen along with Pierre McGuire. Yeah. And, and in a six pack of allegations. White. Yup. Congratulations storm. No. That's nice. It's like the book diving bell, and the butterfly basically, what he did where you just blink out your answers. Morse code that. That's what a real hockey guy would. It was great. It was great that he did that. Oh I had we read a headline. This one is Mickelson. Ace's Jim Nance has backyard home. That was the headline from the Gulf. That's the headline headline Nicholson aces. Jim Nancy's backyard. Whole. Yeah. Those that's sloppy sex. That is headline film. Phil Mickelson has sloppy. Phil Mickelson strikes me as a guy that spits directly onto his own dick. A lot. Yes. Sex of this, baby. Dislike takes out of hand hold rule he wants and goes, this is going to be like, what to go half in sucks skittles spit. He doesn't skittle spit this. Oh, the what is it? What was that movie? Adam Sandler, big daddy. I got I got two ribs for move. So I can titty fuck myself this big pits overs, dick porn. You know what I'm gonna do? I feel like I should it's been a pet passion project of mine that have had on the back burner for awhile that I've not got around to doing I need to write just a fan fiction, just like steamy erotic fan fiction, just about all sorts of athletes, trying to have sex. Now, you don't you're gonna say skill you don't have to do that. I did write that don't have to do that. No. I think before I don't know if you have to do like, right. Okay. You told me that you would off, you would not read a novella about Phil Mickelson sex. No. I just William. Yeah. I think we got I think we just the Phil Mickelson spitting on his dick jokes. I think we just reached the capacity. Okay. Not Phil Mickelson Aaron Hernandez. I'm going gonna say, Colin Montgomerie having sex is Mia Hamm Andy Reid having sex with his wife a ham, just as what. No hams fucking big ham. Just it's just a nice juicy named Mia Hamm. Yes, my name's him. Exactly. Yeah. Okay. I could see where that, okay? Next month. Do we have any other segments? We're gonna do someone Paul Pierce pure. Well, yeah. Yeah. We I think I think we just need to have a poop talk about Paul Pierce. I actually don't really buy it. I don't bite either. I think he admitted as much that he was just using it of to get a headline as a joke, and listen, Paul as someone who has hanged himself in the last eight months. Yeah, my culture is not your cost. Well, I was going to say, I, I look, I don't want to take too much credit but I feel like I've been on this. I've been campaigning for this for like five, six years now that we need to de stigmatize pooping your pants, and ever since I got caught pooping my pants at Chicago dog park in the studio asked me for a picture. And so, I think Paul Pierce has just waited till it's been like the tide has turned on it, and he's like, now it's safe to say this. So he's doing as kind of a coward, and he's not only a coward, but he's doing it. And I think I don't think he actually had to poop his pants. I think he just thought he was really, really injured. I need knows that if he says this now people will be like that's funny. Dude. Now he's using pooping pants as a cover for me. I have a broken rib if I say that it feels like I have stabbing pains in my ribs. That's disrespectful to Paul Pierce, who actually had to deal with it him those close to abilty. Yes. So I just don't buy it. I mean, I've, I've been out on the front lines for very long time talking about how it's not a big deal, and I feel like he's just he's Johnny come lately. I don't I don't appreciate now. People are able to laugh at me. When I when I said that I should. He says, rain time if you wanted the credit a girl. No, I'm just saying. Like I, you know, oh, I've been doing this. There's two minutes left. So I think we'll just watch the last two minutes, then we'll get to licensed Jill cut out all the times that we don't talk. I don't know. This is terrible radio. Okay. That's it looks like the game's over. Bruins fans are fighting each other in the stands holy shit. That was wet is getting tugged off left and right insane ending in the game. Hate to see this a game like this, tear the city of Boston insane. Final score blues two Bruins one fans we hope to see you back at TD garden on Wednesday June twelfth for a potential game. Seven please drive home safely. Okay. That was in game arena, announcer. Jake Marsh PMT sports biz. So now the Cup is in the building for the blues Hain and never a help has never been to Saint Louis the Cup is in the building for the blues on Sunday night. So we'll, we'll be here. We'll do it after the that game. In case the blues win the Stanley Cup final. Let's finish up the show with our sixty nine year young you like I did that. I was to say that, that way. Sixty fuck your kiddies serve chicken. It's been with just holding the most. Still in stoic middle finger is all blues. That was fucking awesome. I was about to go so viral. All right. Here she is chilly. Football. Okay. We're going to wrap up our Friday show. Introducing our newest intern we told you about Jake Marsh, on Wednesday. We also have Jack who's behind the scenes into into finish the big three we have Jill sixty nine year old Jill. Jill football Sheely football, you probably remember her from her her resume? She said that she stronger than she looks she's great at laughing at jokes. She is not easily offended not easily offended well-versed in New York City and recovering from shoulder injury. But doing really well in physical therapy, we talk to your doctor. They said you were doing great. Good to hear. Okay. So Jili football is here. We're going to a couple of things every Friday. We're do licensed jail where she gets questions from readers from listeners from Jalil's from Jalil's, but we're also going to do a little I'm not mad, but I'm disappointed recap of the week so Jill. You listen to Monday and Wednesday. Show. Sometimes we get a little out of hand. Sometimes we make jokes of probably aren't great. And as our senior correspondent, that's not because of your age. It's because you're you have a great resume. Where did we go wrong this week? I have to tell you that I was disappointed. Not so so much worse. No not mad not angry. But I was disappointed. That I had nothing to be disappointed in. Oh. No. I swear except perhaps the only thing. The dumped lady. Oh, lady. Fair. This was a real question. This was a real life scenario that this lady was going through, and it's our job as podcasters to help people through their issues sometimes. So she really wanted to know if she should take a shit in front of her boyfriend. Okay. It just went all too long. It went onto long. You know, enough is enough. We get stupid anyway. We get it just shouldn't take in the crap. Right. Okay. No. I I, she should have sent him packing. Yeah. That's true. So all right. That's good. That's good feedback, because you know what? Like that's we thought it was the right amount, but you're right. It probably went the dump lady probably went on a little, sometimes we get carried away with things. So it's always good to have like an outside set of is somebody new that doesn't that, that doesn't know how stupid are sometimes to tell us like, we, we need an invisible fence, like we're dogs that you just let out and open pasture. But we need somebody to zap us back to reality. She's talking gills Julia football. So about Monday, reading the, the woman who said that her boyfriend wanted to take a shit in front of him to make sure that they weren't. She wasn't cheating on him the dump lady that downplaying because the shit that the lady took was too big. I didn't believe that it could come from his girlfriend right, right? That won't see we're doing it to. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Okay. But can I say something I liked? I loved the karaoke. They. Oh, yes. I thought that was amazing. You guys have good voices many pack. Yo does he does. He really got into it. I love that. I listen to it for longer. The trick was when we started singing, big cat, and I we sing very poorly to get started. And then Manny was like, no, I got this and he kind of pushed us away, and he was like I wanna to take you guys you guys sit in the back. I'm gonna take the wheel. All right. So Jili football, we're gonna do license the Jill we've questions. She's getting her phone up. What font do you use? What I need? I need a an adult. Let's see. She lost the password. Oh those your password. It was not my phone. That's phones in front of you because I'm very important. She's got a burner. Okay. So which one are you gonna read, I'm going to be a beautiful family, by the way, I do? But this one is my darling. Jake's phone. When you unlock. Okay. Here we go. You go. Okay. So these are questions that are submitted by you part of my take award-winning listeners. Okay. Okay. My first question is Jill? What were you doing in your life when big cat and PF t were born nuts? Eighty five nine thousand nine hundred thirty four. I'm thirty first. Yeah. January thirtieth thirtieth could probably tell by maturity, I'm thirty first, you can probably tell because I have much more youthful skin. Yes. So we're born a day apart is crazy. Nicer. Bodies crazy. Are you doing? I was. Live in California. Ooh, had two kids and one on the way it open. We've I had, of course all the way through my pregnancies. Talked to Mike drank, I did it all. That's honesty of we need my growth, but they were okay? What part of California because I remember when you talk to us a couple of days ago, you said that you were a flower child. I was, but I was living in Nevada then and the summer of sixty seven okay, we drove up to San Francisco. Did the whole hey dash berry? Well, expand your mind a little bit expanded my mind, I was how many I was naive little girl, how mcgreal did concentrate, you've been to nine zero you're, I think you're narc zero know at the time, you know, you live in Nevada your grow up there and you're closer to southern California. So what are you interested in the beach boys in the surfing, the serfdom? Okay. We're surfer. I've have surfed young but I'm not a surfer. Right. Okay. Make sure it's doesn't long. I know just one and does Julie football male birthday cards to family members. Of questions. Of course. I do. Yeah, I've got a lot of family. And it's always nice to get a card. Do you have a calendar that set up so that, you know, when you have to send letters? Ridiculous question. Because of course she goes. Like, of course, she does well, but, you know. Cords, and now you can Facebook, but that's not the same. It's much more personal touch. Yeah. And no. I don't have a calendar. Okay. So you just remember sometimes I've malate. Okay. But I do. All five of your kids. Birthdays, go September. Twenty eighth April eighth. If twenty eighth may second may ninth. Oh really getting busy. Eilly sobering Labor Day weekend. Labor day. Yeah. Okay. Next one. Okay. Two questions. First. What are your favorite sports teams? So the AWOL's wwl's can be prepared for soggy sorrows, so professional or college both professional football teams would have to be the forty Niners. Okay. And the Seahawks. Oh luck both. So we're big I still like them. We're going to need you to pick one of the two though to be that must have been tough. Yeah. Have to be the forty nine okay you're actually. Joe montana. Okay. All right. And college. Yeah. Go blue Michigan. Okay. Don't have any big ten represented. Yeah. All right. That's going to be problematic. What other teams you root for any other basketball teams basketball team? Yeah. College. Carolina line a blue little rivalry over there. What the hell is going on right now? Hank is a big Duke, thin. Oh, yeah. Oh, no longer friends, though, that's going to be a that is going to be fun. When we have the live, watch Duke UNC next year. I've been trying to get my son tickets to the two ado Carolina game for you. I got you. Okay. I got you. Figured out where seek are and then any baseball basketball NBA. You don't care baseball. You don't care. Oh, I love the Mets. Oh, okay. There we go. We need like something maybe in Florida and you got this. Okay. Texas teams, Florida. While you still like the model I used to go to the I used to have season tickets to the Panthers in Florida, the hot ninety IT. You're all over the place. I love the lived in every corner of the country. Damn okay. All right. That's great. So when any of those teams lose, we're going to have to douse you in water and you're going to have to come on the show. All right. Forty nine probably lose too many games. Oh, okay. You'll be fine. Well, and if they lose they probably lose the Seahawks. So we're really. Okay. We'll give you both those teams. Yeah. You get both. All right. Next one. All right. Sup jelly football. Saw your Twitter. Cover photo is an x Ray of your shoulder and have a question. Are you hurt or injured thoughts and prayers? Thank you. I got hurt. I got injured. I vote for it's one of the other silver being hurt fruit. No, I was injured. Okay. Okay. Truly was injured. Now, you said the other day that somebody pushed you over. But. How you just fell fell and. I wasn't drinking. Oh. Do you have life alert? Is that offensive to say, I don't have life alert probably show. Okay. There we go. All right. So. Just walking and Putin on the sidewalk Kim. And, and I had had some surgery. So I didn't wanna put my hand down hurt my, my hand, so I fell on my shoulder, took the brunt of the force in the shoulder. Okay. But you are crushing your physical therapy. I am your eye. I. Every day. Did you walk around with the risk guard for a long time? I feel like that's a look that. Older. Women rock, like a prophylactic. Yeah. You don't always get the risk are going there, rollerblade, or they might have, you know, have carpal tunnel. I don't know what hankins doing boulders for shoulders this summer. So maybe you and him could get on the same word. Yes. Yes. Okay. Next question. Oh zep. Jelly. AARP work. Oh. Yes. And no. Ooh, it gets you discount. Jerry. Oh, how I'm sorry. How does a are AARP work? Well, you sign up when you're fifty because that's when you're they consider old, and you just go from there. And you get little magazines and you'll get a card and show it. And so you check into hotel and you just flashed the card, and they're like, here's twenty percent off. Correct. We gotta get an air. Yes. Yes. What else? What else do you get out of it? You what's the best discount? You got on a r p probably hotel. Nice. Okay. So when we book, our hotels. Yes, we should bring you along. So pay for yourself. Yeah. Use your card. Yes. Okay, next. Okay. Oh, long long. Okay. Is the last one K except Jill? Specially daily football, you seem like you have maternal instincts. So I'll get right to the point, I live with my girlfriend, and my little sister, who just graduated college moved into our second bedroom for a month while she finds a place my go. Oh, friend is pissed off because I don't want to charge my sister rent for living with us. Good guy move. It's not a big deal. We're at a standstill and I don't know what to do. I love my girlfriend, but I don't want to change. My sister went, or I don't want to charge my sister, rent. Yup. Please help. Well, I'm staying with my kids and they're not charging me rent. What can I say? Big time move by them. I think that is a stand up thing to do. I always family first. So. Yeah, what do you think do you think this guy should just tell his girlfriend like, hey, why don't you buzz off? No. I don't think he should tell her to buzz off. I think he should just say the sweat is picking up in front of a taste the dump. You don't. Yeah. That world. What do you think about the idea of like having the, the sister or the person who's not paying rent, do certain things around the house? Absolutely tidying up, washing flushing their own dumps. Yeah. You gotta you gotta pay away just something. So what do you do around your house at clean their apartments? I do their laundry this internship. I got the internship. Thank you. Adam. Internship that got you out of the house every now and then you're getting paid. Oh, yeah. You are. That, that I thought I had to pay you so badly. So. One. The way it works is you get paid. But then I for that money. Yes. That's what I thought. All right. So Julie football first day in the books, you can follow her at Jili underscore football. You're going to be tweeting. We want you tweeting all your thoughts. Anything else you have for us. I mean. Yeah. It's confusing. I'm sorry, a, you know, if it wasn't for. My darling. Jake, I, I don't think I could do it. He has to come in practically hold my hand and you'll be just fine. You know what you should do while you're still learning to get the hang Twitter, you should write down, all your tweets, young sediments, tweeting them. And then when you get into the office we can help you tweet them out or write down your tweets and take a picture of them. And then tweet the picture that good. Good. Really worth. And by the way, not to give you any pressure or anything, but you are up to five thousand Twitter followers. Oh, so the world is watching how I'm a lucky woman. Very helpful. Like how you called Jake, my darling. Jake. I'd like to see that. Continuous I think I might call them my darling. Jake. Yeah. All right. So Jill every Friday you're going to be on in the summer. It's going to be a fun little summer. Licensed to Jill and make sure you come back with some things. You're disappointed that we're gonna screw up. Oh well, you will scores. Scores but it's about getting up not down seven times. Get up eight. Yeah, exactly. All right. Jill. Thank you so much. Thanks guys. Love us talking to Mike love you guys.

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Randy Couture + Football Guy Of The Week Tyler Trent From Purdue

"On today's part. My take we have UFC legend Randy couture joins us in studio. Yeah. We sized them up. It's not a big deal. Talked to us about the fight game is career his new venture. Which sounds absolutely awesome. We also have our football guy of the week. Tyler Trent, you probably saw the story. It was an incredible one. He's fighting cancer. And he was able to make it to the produce Ohio State game die hard boilermaker and basically took down urban Meyer himself. So we had a lot of fun talking to him about football. Who's favorite football player is all that good stuff? We also have fantasy fuck boys and a little Hanks grab bag before we do the NFL week eight preview before we get all that though. Let's do some ads and because it's Friday. Let's do some. Larry's picks PF t who we got up. I we're starting Jolie old England town the morning game. I don't have. I haven't researched yet. Is it a morning game? Or is it? That shitty. One o'clock game notes morning. Okay. Cool. It's other you're asking if it's the morning game in England. It's not it's like, no like three. It's it's Blake Bortles. And and the Jaguars against the eagles. Okay. Let's do it. All right. And we're brought to you by cash app. You already know the cash app number one finance app on the app store. What you might not know that you can also put cash app in your wallet with the cash cart. It's the only debit card that offers instant rewards. Incomes packed with premium features not even a credit card can offer like boosts, listen, if you're in college and don't take advantage of boost what are you doing? Save up ten percent instantly whole foods to Wendy's panics breasts or Chick-fil-A more your favorite spots or even one dollar off coffee. Every time you swipe your card at coffee shops across the country, including Starbucks the cash card put you in control your money with extra inap- safety features. 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We think it's actually next week. But I wanna get everybody ready and that was really excited for it this weekend. So I might just do it might live in my own time zone. I think we. Yeah. We talked about doing that earlier this week living your life on Coughlan daylight savings time. But now we have it for next weekend when we're LSU and very hung. Okay point. So remember that you clocks forward an hour this weekend. Yes. Do this weekend. For don't be upset at us. Also PSA part of my tape shot up Megan Kelly. Yeah. Don't face. We don't want anybody out there doing blackface anti-nazi list or anti anti lists. Yeah. Anti-black face. You wanted clarify that second where a gang pupil who are in this or pro. Yes, that is really fucked up that they may. Lisp such a hard word say it is so brutal. If. I thought I had a list there for this. Anti pro. Blake Bortles anti face. Is there something else? We're anti anti. I care doctor. We've come out strongly against bad vibe as vibes. But don't do black face. Don't even think about it here. No stop. I can hear you out there. I don't care how fun. You have to put PF t would if I want to do, but PF T, but I'm but I'm going as Rachel dole. Is who is it? So it's not really black. I don't know. I don't care. I'm trying to help you here. Okay. Yes. Don't do it. So it is coming around Halloween season. It is the start Thursday was the start of twenty seven straight days with football. There's going to be a college game or an NFL game for twenty seven straight days. And and I am so excited that is like the best feeling in the world to know that every night. There's a little football waiting for you at home. Maybe Maxon maybe fun belt who knows but it's waiting for you. And it's there and it's ready to go. Yes. Every single time you get home twenty seven days until the next day with this is like guys version of sinking up on our periods together. Yeah. We're just like the moon is controlling football for the next one. I said we're all going to be you know, what that's actually not a bad correlation. We're all going to be probably a little bit bloated eating a lot of salty snacks. We're going to be irritable. Because we're going to be losing a lot of our Beck's. Well. It'd be bleeding out of various holes from doing drugs, and such in the other thing is twenty-seven at the end of the twenty seventh day is actually when college basketball tournaments start. How man so? And then you get the daytime college basketball. So I feel bad for people that live before television. Where do they look at? They probably just looked at a wall. And imagine that there were sports going on kisses. No, they had the kisses. Yeah. They just said math all the time. They all just had pictures of Jesus in their house. And that was like, hey, come see my thirty six inch Jesus. Yeah. Just got a new one that's treated. I would go over to somebody's house to see if thirty six inch. She's yeah. Pretty impressed. Yeah. No Bill down the street. He just got a fifty five inch or his wife led him. I can't believe it. It's a whole fucking what they did. They just had fireplaces. Yeah. Because you can start a fireplace for a long to -absolutely. Absolutely. Okay. So NFL week eight it hurts to say we ate, but we're going to have fun. It's friday. Let's get loose next week is going to be the really scary week. Because that's when it's officially over halfway. Yes. Yes. Yeah. Don't okay. Let's pause to everyone pasta. I'm really quick one two three. Plus enjoy the moment football's here just stop talking during the pus telling them why everyone pause time one-two-three go. Okay. You'll think about that moment in like February. It was a great grill. Think about the moment. We just pause that the exact almost the exact halfway Mark. We shared that together. Never forget it. All right. So the Brockett ship one performance. Yeah. I mean, I love him. Yes. He listened. He had a couple overthrows. Yes. He threw one backwards zone. How wasn't a foam that was smart? That was a smart move. He knows the rulebook more than anybody else. So he knew that if he if he like flailed his arms wildly and accidentally threw the ball five yard backwards. Yes. Then it would actually count as him trying to bring it back into his body. Yes. So good move on his rule. He. Yeah. Bad awful rule that common sense, should prevail. There. He threw it backwards that should be a fumble. He also had his classic Brockett ship interception. Where he threw the ball where there was no receiver even close. And it was a perfect strike right to the linebacker such catchable ball. Yes. Tight spot. Yes. It's like that is such a perfect rocket ship. Throw. Yeah. It was he also had an assist. Yes. So I don't know if Ryan tannehill is ever had an assist but Brock through a pass to Danny amendola who then threw the touchdown pass. Yes. We'll Philly special going on. He gets a point. So. Yeah, I mean, he really if we're doing our three stars of the night. I think Brock scabby, number one. Yeah. And we saw Brandon Weeden for a second. He he knelt the ball at the end of the first half improved his career yards per carry. I really wish he'd just said fuck it just try to run one. If it was kind of learn, you know. Would have. But it was it was actually an enjoyable game. And I think the Texans are officially back gone five games in a row now that they've won. Well, here's the thing. We put the done chain. I think they were the first team that I Don chain spur of the moment. Now premature done little kid Kip to leave to leave FTE here. And I'm going to snatch the done chain. No. I'm channel snatch. No, no. No. No, no, sir. Do not because listen spin zone as long as they don't win the Super Bowl. We were right? They might win the super now they're not gonna win the Super Bowl guaranteed a off pinky. Okay. We're yo yet fucking, dammit. And what did I did you just say well half a pink? No, no, no. It's helping. I should have a pinkie. I'm cut off. I'll cut off the top of my nub gonna do act like the Minnesota. Vikings long, snapper. Yeah. We'll go looking for I'll cut off the tip of my pile cut off from from this bone up we feed it to Larry like those fish in the saliva that Email you can't have right? I'll cut it. I'll cut off the nail. And I'll have enough. I heard that he was gonna cut his pinky. I'll have enough you didn't even eat shits. I did eat shit. And no one really saw. It was never on video. You're feel. It wasn't video you member. You don't wanna be your back? You don't want be back. All right. So yeah, it's yes. See you. So you've made it wasn't on video. I'm going to cut off the nail up if the Texans win, and that's how that's because I respect the done chain. You don't I do. I'm just I respect you so much want to take it back. Aren't you think Texas actually have a chance to do anything? The texans. Definitely have a chance to beat the Bengals in the playoffs. Put it that way. Okay. Now, I'm getting nervous. You don't. I'll do is. If they get to the Super Bowl just put like an outrageous amount of money on them. So that way by. And if I win. Yeah, it's not all bad. It's also an inspirational story if you lose a finger, and then you continue to talk and blog, we just show. Many people listening to this show if I have to cut off my finger live on the show, your I blog back minus a pinkie not it's going to be that should be nominated for an Espy courage award. You know what I'll do too. I'm gonna even go on further. We'll have JJ watt watch JJ. You just won the Super Bowl, bro. You have to come watch me cut off the tip of my path. Okay. So this is. So I guess I guess now everybody is is rooting for the Houston, Texas is how fast things get out of control here because this was supposed to just be a fun Friday. Let's talk about the games. And now I'm talking about cutting off the tip my pinky now. Let's let's unpack this a little bit. How do you want? Are you gonna do it yourself are you in? I don't think you're going to be able to do it yourself. This isn't twenty-seven hours or whatever Christian bale and the prestigious put the the cork in your mouth and just I'll probably have a doctor come into Hank spoilers Jesus Christ. We have a doctor coming do it. Or actually, you know, what maybe I'll just have member. The or how about in Reservoir Dogs where they have the guy like tied down stuck in the middle with you off. Yeah. You know, what I'll do those mish? Remember, the the the cutters? You had it at your off cigar cutter fucker. They call cigar cutter cutter. Yeah. The big board. Yeah. The parents. So I'll just put my finger in that. And it was I I was kinda hoping that you'd asked me to do it. No, absolutely. Because you'll cut the whole fucking thing. I'm just trying to I'm just trying to get the no I'm just trying to get a nice clear. Three two one right now. You know what we do? County now. Just want the nub cutoff. Right. Just it's it's basically from the from the, okay fingernail. So we get Tim tebow to do it. Yeah. We get a circumciser finger I want. No. Yeah. You basically draw a line at the fingernail cut that. Yep. Nice. Little fucking like I'll pointed at people, and they'll puke if don't you fucking come at me, the JP podcasts. Yeah. If there's one guy, that's absolutely qualified stem. I'm actually people reach out to what I'm like. I'm already I've already say goodbye to it. I don't even what do you use your pinky for? You know, I actually the tip. It would be bad ass to have the tip of my picky. And maybe maybe when it heals all put a tattoo on it. So you can stare at it. Like, hey, stop looking at my eyes are up here. Get you prosthetic tipped your pinky. Okay. Let's do some games now that I've really just stepped in it. Okay. Loser leaves town. Yeah. Loser leaves town game. I got an easy one. I've got an easy one to Philly Jacksonville. Yes. Okay. And it's actually for this game since it's over in London. It's more just like take away the losers return passport. Yeah. So this game. I I'll I'll say that this game will decide if like the loser. This game is done right out of the playoffs. Yeah. Maybe it done chain. Actually, the eagles can still survive. Be now the NFC east. They still might be able to. I looked at the our word schedule. You want me to run through it game game by game. The bottom line is the are words that are going to go ten and six minimum. Okay. Maybe eleven and five. So this is easy. Loser leaves town. What is your are? We sure they're good game. Are we sure they're good Seattle at Detroit? Okay. I have jets bears. But I think both play both. Yeah. Yeah. So both will be a big the winner of that game will walk away being like the whole seasons in front of us were ready to go. The loser of those games are going to be down in the dumps and thinking holy Faulk. Worse group. Yeah. I'm in. Okay. I actually think the lions I the lines could be okay. They could win that division. You should we're not sure they're bad. Well, we'll find out on Sunday Russia. They're good. Tune in to dick Stockton in March. Leith Seahawks lines my box about the game of the week is Minnesota New Orleans for you to know who Rams Packers. Okay. Yeah. There's two good. There's two games of the week. Here's games of the week. I listen it's a first quarter of the week for Rams Packers. Because I get the feeling the Rams are gonna go up on them like thirty to ten. I wish we could just flex this. Which this with the patriots bills? Yeah. That does not need to be on Monday night. Give us Rams Packers Monday. Here's the thing. Here's a little staffer. You. Wait is is the patriots bills in buffalo? Yeah. Okay. So mobile. Heels look on the ceremony deals in Toronto. We're not flexing that one the Packers erogenous uses soon. It's going to snow every game. Of course. That's how it works. It's either gonna snow or you're gonna get your dick sucked in the in the in park because you gave away your Kiko Alonzo. Are you going to get hit with a dildo mobile on one of the three one of the three D R U? Yeah. The the Packers nine and a half that is the largest spread that Aaron Rogers ever ever been given as a as an underdog that's a huge number for an Rogers. It is. And he's coming off a bye. So that knee probably feeling a little better Mike McCarthy. House a little bit more time to figure out how to misuse all his wide receivers. Are you thinking what I'm thinking? What at the Coliseum? That's where Carson Wentz towards ACL last year. God forbid Jesus, no rid. I said God forbid, it's not going to happen. Okay. Real shame. By the way Carson Wentz. His knee injury had nothing to do with the turf. He was literally in mid air. Yeah. I know. But God forbid God forbid, it's also the place where it happened on your bad juju juju. Okay. You want to do a few picks? We we also have our over venture game. No robberies back on. Oh. The rivalries back browns-steelers Brown sealers. Yes. And double revenge game in that one. Todd. Haley revenge game and Joe Haden revenge game little on both sides of that is nice rivalries. Definitely back or here's a little fun stat. Somebody told me that I didn't bother to fact check and also laid on PMT stats department. Take a look at it, Hank. Do it. There every Browns coach that is Dr the last five Browns coaches that have been fired have gotten fired after they played Pittsburgh that doesn't sound right. But it sounds right enough. It doesn't sound real feels right? Sounds right after the play pithier. Pittsburgh was the last team that they played against. Okay. We'll have somebody check out whatever that's cool now that. Do what's going on with leave you on Bill? He's Schrodinger is back. Not Schrodinger is running back. He's back. But he's not back. He said he was gonna come back. But he's not that he hasn't shown up to facility. I don't think what's up. He hasn't practiced. What's up? My get. What sounds like us asset leaving on? Bellio bell. I don't I don't understand it. I I actually just thought of that say like I just assumed that he was back because he said that he was going to be back. And then we just got lost in the shuffle. Yeah. I don't know. I have no idea what he's thinking. Because this doesn't count as a vested year. Is it really? It's ten is week ten we? So that's one he'll be back. Okay. He's aby. He's lost a lot of money this year. Yeah. Yes. Yes. He has true checks out. Check out the lost lot of money. It's on NFL read it in that links to ESPN article. Okay. So without clicking the. Yep. Okay. Nice. Nice. All right. 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I mean, you wonder some people it's the first thing they notice like, oh my God. It's a badge. It's happened. Fuck with me and other people. They don't notice it all all my dad, ever even realized that. Yeah. It's a no trespassing. Sign for your. Yeah. There's certain countries where you go to the headline if you have. Yeah. Royalty. What countries are like eastern Europe? Bulgaria? Yeah. Oh, yeah. You remember that I think it was Kimba slices first professional fight. He fought a guy that had some married till? Yeah, they're Thompson exploded his ear. Yep. At what point does does it? You're just get so calloused from being cauliflower that it's impossible to explode. Well, like his when it's fresh like that, it's soft and squishy. It's a Bruce, basically. Okay. But unlike a bruise on your leg your arm. Your body has trouble reabsorbing that fluid. So you know, eventually it'll quite late and get hard. If you feel these now, they're touching air like harder to rock. They're they're it's like why that is really hard shit. That's crazy. I didn't realize how hard that was the the fluid quagmire lates, basically. Thanks jealous. Damn everything happen it. We have armor. I had it drained. Yeah. At this drain nine times. When I first got it was seven times and hearing couldn't afford to sit out I was in the middle of trying to make the army wrestling team. And if I sat out to send me back to my unit to keep wrestling every day, and every time you get your heart rate up at fills backup. I it's interesting. You did come from a wrestling background like a lot of fighters do at what point did you realize that you could hold your own with your fist to? That was the first. Order of business was to get more depth at striking. I'd never really been in a lot of fights throughout school or any of that. So getting used to having somebody tried to punch me in the face. And actually try to punch somebody else in the face was a strange thing and something I had to get used to. And so the professional fighting league. That's what you're here talking about. Let's let's talk about that real quick. So what would tell everyone who you know? I think I may is obviously on the rise. It's been a big time story kind of come into mainstream lot lot to do with Conor McGregor. But what are you guys doing with professional fighting? Well, it's a little bit different format. They're they're they're running a mixed martial arts format. That's a lot more like professional sports have a regular season, twelve athletes in six weight classes, those guys are going to compete twice in the regular season. Depending on how they finished those fights. They're going to score points the top eight from each way class the top eight point getters are going to move onto the postseason in the postseason its a single elimination progressive tournament. He got to win to move forward. Just like the NFL or the NBA. Yeah. Anything else? So it's definitely run more like a sports league at traditional sports league. And then we're just getting ready to have our our third quarter. Final semi-finals guys will fight twice in one night. Two rounds in the quarterfinals three rounds in the semi-finals, obviously, the semi final winners advanced to the finale the finale is going to be here at the who theater Madison Square Garden. Love on New Year's Eve, and there will be a million dollars given to the winner in each of the six way classes, that's great. It's going to be held pretty big carrot dangling out there. These guys have been getting after trying to score points and guarantee their spot in the in the postseason. Yeah. And now we're kind of settling that fighting twice in one night. That's haven't done that. So yes. So it seems to me, and you can correct me if I'm wrong, this is very much about the fighting. And maybe a little less about the, you know, fight promotion in and all the, you know, throwing trolleys at buses. It's absolutely about the fighting. That's what I like about it. Crecy? Yeah. You could talk all smack you wanna talk, but it's not gonna get you any closer to that. Title. You've got to win fight. What did you as a UFC hall of fame, or what did you what was your take on the entire could be McGregor fallout, and you know, the lead up and how everything comes bound to happen sooner. Or later Connors been pushing the envelope with his antics, you know, throwing water bottles grabbing people's belts, just generally being disrespectful at pressures, and and you know, obviously culminated last year with the Chuck and a hand truck through a bus window and cutting a couple of fighters, and you know, could be was on that bus, and then roll into this fight finally getting signed and him, you know, basically, insulting beeps family, and his culture and all kinds of things. He just there's several lines got crossed. Yeah. So I'm surprised that could be waited till after the fight right in my mind that wasn't the moment if you were going to go off on this guy. Do it at the presser. Do you do it? When the guy tries to kick you at the way ins. But that's your moment. You just had almost flawless performance away from him. And you let them steal that moment away from you. That was your glory of of the whole thing was a great fight. Yeah. Exactly. What he needed to do? So I was kinda surprised that he let them get under his skin, then, and they're not sooner you ever have a moment leading up to a fight where a guy was kind of going over the line if you times with with what he was saying about you or your family or anything like that the only time that that ever happened was was Tito. And I knew when I signed up to fight Tito that that's how he was kind of the original. Bad boy that guy that talks back and use that as a tool marketing and psychological warfare trying to get in your head. He wanted me to think about anything. But what I needed to think about to beat his ass. You think that's what's going on? He's thought it through that far. Or was he just being a dick who Tito? Yeah. I absolutely think it was calculated. He knew exactly what he was doing. And still does that that was his that's and that's CONNER common. Connors got a writer. Right. That's he said did not get pulled out of his butt. Right. He has somebody that does research. That's that's digging in and riding. Do you think? That's too much. Do you think he like you didn't Dana white has a problem going forward with Connor going maybe too far or is this just Dana white cares? As long as he's cashing checks. I mean that was the that was the funniest part about the entire pay view is after when Dana white was like, this is a black eye on you, see in blah blah's. Like, no, it's probably probably going to, you know, lead to more money the next time right into tunnel. And throwing a hand truck through a bus. Wasn't a black. Right. And he said that to at the time that it was a black on the sport than they use it as promo for the lead-up. Yeah. So it it feels like all that kind of stuff works to their favor. And I I actually think it works, even you know, your new leagues favor because -solutely all the m. There's another viable outlet for us to go and be professional athletes in this society. Which in my opinion is a pretty huge deal, the treat the fighters. Well, the shows have been put on well this format. Everybody had questions about the format because we're asking these guys to fight over six weeks during the regular season. And now fighting twice in one night in the postseason. That's a challenge but fighters are up for that. They have responded at seventy percent Finnish rate this season. Which is pretty remarkable that is fighters are getting after so you used to fight multiple times in a day too. Right. Like, the first event was UFC thirteen and I fought twice that night. How do you feel after getting into two fights in one night depends on how those fights wet. Yeah. Sometimes you get ran over by a truck and other times, you feel like I could go again right now, it's not a problem. If if I'm thinking about doing some sort of, you know, strenuous physical activity. My goal is make it through that. So I can eat a huge meal afterwards because I've earned a huge meal. But the shitty. Thing is if you get into two fights, you might have to just drink a milkshake destroy. That's an issue. But yeah, these guys they're fighting twice in a night. If they're if they're successful going into that second fight. How do you how do you deal with pain because I'm kind of a pussy? So if I got, you know, if I had like, a broken rib, or, you know, a big or something like that. I wanna see you rarely go into any fight whether one fight in the night or not you you don't go to anyone a hundred percent. There's always a dang. There's always something that's bothering you camp is gotta be tough. And if it's not tough, then you probably not going to fight very well on fight night. You never walk into a fight one hundred percent anyway, but yet that can play and some guys only had thirty to forty five minutes before they had to fight again, less time to cool down less time for aches and pains and swelling and some of this stuff to set in the could get their body warmed right back up and go back out there. Some guys had two hours you sitting around for two hours. Now, you gotta get yourself back up moving if you've got a Bruce shin. If you've hurt your foot, kicked an elbow. Whatever you gotta get those body parts moving again and warmed up again. And that can be a challenge that is the one of the layers of the onion. When absolutely do you ever look back on someone like you have see thirteen year. I, you know, professional fighting. You're like man, look, how far this sport has come because it was kind of chaos, and it was it was crazy. You know, we did the way ends in the lobby at the Holiday Inn in Augusta. And as a first time I'd ever seen any of the guys. I was fighting. Yeah. Was when we stepped on the scale you ever in a on a carpet water bean. No. Yeah. I know. Yeah. He'll not out artists. Stop a double double-leg, probably not. I don't know. Probably not. I don't know. What that is. That sounds bad wanna get those got low center gravity though. But it's crazy to look at like just how how much of a growth, you know, the m m a community is had in the last twenty twenty five years. A for exploded the the first season of the ultimate fighter really changed landscape for everybody. I remember watching the reality Biko was a great vehicle to kind of break down. Everybody's misconceptions about us as fighters in what our sport was all about. What is the biggest misconception that we were somehow all criminals and just wanted to beat people up? I remember going into meetings, you know, movie meetings and stuff like that. 'cause you know, none of us are really acting or do any of that back then and and there'd be that big Homa Gajah where those cage fighters like I might jump across the table and try and beat them up or something. Right. Hell that my my neighbors. Yeah. Yeah. Normal guy. Right, right. You're just a regular guy on the grass and can beat the just like that. So what is that like walking into any room and just knowing I could kick anyone's ass. You don't think like that though? I would did you walk into this room thinking that that means that means you start clearing the firm. Like, oh, I can say listen, I got good health insurance. You like ambulances or worse. How's yours? Gotta ask you that. Okay. Good. That size us up as a fighter. I sized you up. Yeah. I was like I don't wanna fight this guy outside of that right away. Made that Hoke many I with that ear, so you've been you find a couple of different weight classes is going up more fun than going down. I started at heavyweight came down to light heavyweight about halfway through my career. And then went back up to heavyweight and finished out a heavyweight, I was a small heavyweight so I had to be a little more diligent about how I approach the bigger dies. And I didn't have to cut a lot of ways to make two five. So that wasn't really an issue for me and fighting guys who are closer to my size was a lot nicer. Yeah. Didn't you know, it could just kind of let it hang out? So what would you do when you had to fight a bigger guy? Like, what was your approach when guy, you know, had maybe forty fifty pounds on you try and make those guys move not just possible and make them work. If I could get closed the distance and attach myself to them and make them work and hang all over them and make them Paul Molin grapple and fight off the fence. Then I felt like things will go on my way, you wanna stand around in front of a guy. That's big and has power. Probably going to be more one mistake, and you're gonna go to sleep. So I always wonder this what is more fun knocking someone out or making someone tap? I never had that one punch knockout, the Tim, Sylvia. Fight was probably the closest came, you know, hit him in that first twenty five seconds any fell down. I would think I was surprised as everybody else have a few submissions. That's like checkmate, right? Is this Connecticut? Jess we're going to play. And I play kinetic checkers and. I just like give you a wedge mate. What about the reverse getting? Because like, obviously when someone taps. There's the feeling like, oh, they kinda quit. But obviously not quitting. You're in a spin position. You can't get to fight another day. Right. You know, you got to we ever in a spot where you thought you were about to tap. And then you've got out like, oh, man. I'm like, so how does that thought process? Go down where you're like, I need to tap at this moment. Either feel yourself passing out or your feel your joint is about only give in and that's that's when you recognize that you probably not gonna get out. Probably the closest for me was the Nogueira fight when I fought no Gareth Portland. Admin couple submission holds that a lot of people probably wouldn't have gotten out of right? But I had done my homework. Thanks to Neil Melanson my ground coach at the time. We went through all the different scenarios encountering and on a bunch of things that we expected to see and and he threw everything, but the kitchen sink, that's. Through it all at him to have you ever gotten into submission hold. And in thought, hey, I can get out of it. And then your joint pops the first time I lost in MMA was against ends in in a way. And I got caught in an arm bar was, you know, struggling picking him up trying to get out felt like I was going to get out. And then my arm started popping and add to tap. Yeah. That's a tough lesson learned talks a lot. I would probably rather tap people out. I I can arm Hombre you if you'd let me let me I have to let you. I don't know if I thought you said you could do it. I can. Yeah. Yeah. Will visit. Worse. Yeah. Well, if you let me, so you're obviously, great fighter. But maybe a better actor, the expendable is changed a lot of people's lives. Thank you that. That's nice thing that a lot. But who's the alpha on that set 'cause they're deathly Stallone who still owns property? There's nobody in the world could have brought all those people together except for Stallone is, you know, he wrote the first one like so many of the properties he's a part of its it's definitely part of him. And he sets the tone for everybody, very, very smart guy. And I really enjoyed being around him and learning from him and working with them. But all those guys are amazing guys. They're fun to be around. If there was a Royal rumble between every member of the expendable comes out who leaves that. Well, I. Well, besides if you want to count Ronda Rousey in there. Yeah. I think it would boil down to her. And I okay as far as fighters, you know, real combative sports athletes. You know, all those guys are great athletes. Terry crews amazing football player. Yeah. Steve Austin Austin, Boston, go back ten years. And I I could absolutely see Austin competing loves the sport. But Jason Jason diver, a great Accu acrobat and martial-arts jet Li be the first one to tell you. I'm a martial artist. I'm not a, you know, I'm not a fighter and and dolph long dolph is is a key auction karate guy indefinitely done a lot of sparring. And a lot of your lucky. Steven Seagal wasn't in this movie. Yeah. He would he would that. Make you mad when like guys like us ally. K Stephen skull kick your ass John clock right now. But I feel like you're getting is from everyone like yo stop stop poking stop poking. Randy. Here. He's going to get upset. But see now that would be a fight worth coming out of retirement. Yeah. Oh, so you are you challenging Steven Seagal to highway thrown that gauntlet down years ago and yet, and he didn't know or maybe just kick your ass so fast you forgot about. Yeah. Killed those brain cells. Listen, I will get that fight on the cart. Steven seagal. You've been called out. We will over Steven Seagal. I would love vegetable fighters headed comment in front of a bunch of reporters. And of course, they were often running with that. We're not replacing I if I was gonna come out of retirement if Steven Seagal would sign. With them. I don't have a beef with them at all. Well, yeah, we're gonna going. Yeah. You absolutely have be I've met with him. I've met him once on what today you die. That's out. Awesome. I haven't heard of it. But I'm immediately going to go home. Download it. How many people died in that movie? Oh, gosh. Lots at least one a lot. Yeah. Stephen skull. Didn't though remember that. Yeah. Exactly. Exactly. What about Mickey Rourke though? What's that? What about Mickey Rourke? He seems like a guy that's got his ass kicked a few times. Heavily into boxing competed, a lot in boxing, and and he knows his way around the sport for sure a an amazingly talented actor. Okay. So actually, you're the alphabet group, then you and Rhonda Rousey or the office of the expanded say, so all right. I have a couple last questions here. The CK question you put in promo code take. You get ten dollars off seatgeek purchase. You can probably go to the professional fighters league finale in Madison Square Garden. That's right. New year's. New Year's Eve New Year's Eve. That's awesome. So my Seekie question is what if you could change anything about the sport. What would you do? How would you make it better for both the fighters, and the people watching it if I could change anything in the sport, I would amend the definition of combative sports athlete for the federal legislation in the Mohammed Ali act to include all combative sports athletes. Not just boxers. Okay. Not immediately separates the power in the promotion right now in MMA, the flawed in our system is that the promoter and the sanctioning body are the same guy. He's making his own titles on rankings. He's manipulating the fighters and those rankings to to suit him to make money. It's not a competitive sport. Why shouldn't the heavyweight champion from Bella tour be able to challenge and make the heavyweight champion from the UFC fight and see who the real heavy weight champion is in the world. That's that's in competitive. Marketplace. That's why boxers make so much more money than mixed martial artists because we're in an anti competitive sport every promotion out there, Bella Turin, and the others create their own rankings in their own titles. And there's no crossover. It's very exclusive. So if I get changed anything I would organize an educated the fighters on that flaw in the system, and why we need to come together as fighters and create a putters association a union. Do you think that will happen mixed martial arts fighters association, we've been lobbying for those two things for the last couple of years. Yeah. So slow roll trying to educate butters on why we need to come together. Why professional sport out there as a player is not really a union because we're we're independent contractor for ten ninety nine. We're not we're not employees, and frankly, I don't want to be an employee. I want to be able to represent myself and a free market. I'd be able to make those big fights happen. And I would get the lion's share of of what comes in from that event. Sixty to seventy percent of. What comes in from a boxing event goes to the boxers that fought on that card were about thirteen eighty seventeen percent of what comes in from an MA event. Yeah. All right. That's ridiculous. That is ridiculous. So if I was had the ability to wave a magic, wand and change something that's what I would. We're not gonna have any non members of the was it. The m m AMA FA MMA FX more short the picket line. Maybe a hold that line. Hold that one thing when I'm thinking ahead of it. Steven seagal. Now, we're Tom. Hey, he he made it a point to Jen. I don't know if you invested but. My last question. A lot of people are asking who is who is the goat near mind, man. It's such a tough tough one to answer because there's so many guys in that have been amazing for so many different reasons. And then you start talking about weight classes, I meant LeBron. I'm Jay talking about fighting. Just talked with you fighting look broader end Jake. That's what would your answer be there. I think Michael Jordan good answer. All right now, you're qualified to answer who is the golden fighting, man. I'm I mean, it's such a debatable thing. You know? George saint-pierre, George. Gotta be on the list. Yeah. To you. Absolutely. Gotta be on the list. Okay. BJ pens got to be on there. I like BJ Penn. Because he always kinda he's kinda like Daniel Cormet. We got a little bit of a soft body. So it's like, hey, if you don't even have to do crunches to to be the baddest man on our psychological warfare shown up. Yeah. I got to work with him a little bit at that. Yeah. It's amazing. Amazing. Absolutely shared about the spider. I think he's he's certainly in the conversation, and it was dominant in that way class for quite a while. Yeah. You know, a big fan of Dan Henderson, one of the one of the few guys, it's you know, one championships and in multiple weights as well. And and but I mean, we could start listing a whole bunch of them, and they gotta be in the conversation. And so hard to narrow that down to just hang cabinet. I. No, probably not. I thought that was gonna see the first double heart attack was maybe my favorite toys hell is going on and recipes Kimba sliced, but that fight was pure drama because guys just falling all over each other. You didn't include yourself. It's very humble of does. That mean that you're actually the goat. You have the most title fights vol time, right? Yeah. I think so because I've heard that before. But I don't know this. I believe so no those stats. Yeah. Six heavyweight championship bout wins. Is that also correct? That's right to you. Yeah. So you're the goat the goat. But John Jones is the goat. If if they didn't test for piss. Yeah. Between him and Brock listener if they'd never tested for. All right. So if both those guys were on steroids is hot as could be loading toward all up their butlers or whatever who wins. You get them in a cage together. I think probably John I he his athleticism and length. Is going to pose a problem for less ner and Brock as mazing athlete as he isn't as big and strong as he is. He still hasn't really made friends with getting punched in the face. You've seen that in a couple of instances where where you just kind of changed his mind about being out there under you start getting cracked. Yeah. Who at the huge hands just beat the shit out of him. Mar Martha Alastair over you know, he's talking about the was. Rome was paid like ninety thousand dollars for the fight. I think you're talking about the guy from Australia. Mark. What's hunt EMR cont? I think he was the one who fought he had Marquardt was another guy who didn't really want to get in shape. But if he can call you with one your lights out a and can take a shot let nobody's business too. Yeah. Yeah. All right. So Randy toward the goat. Thank you very much checkout. Professional fighters league, we will put a link to it on our Twitter page in our Instagram. And because we called the goat the goat. Now. Let's do the arm bar portion. So I can you. Okay, reading we'll do that off air. I'm on. Okay. Thanks to Randy couture. We next up have our football guy of the week, Tyler Trenton awesome awesome interview with him before we get to that though. Buffalo Wild Wings. There's no better place to watch football with friends in Buffalo Wild Wings. All the games on wall to wall TV's come in for their five dollar game day deals. Five dollars thirty eight ounce. Pitchers of bud. Light Coors, light or Miller lite five dollar cheese burger and fries. Five dollar brought in fries and five dollar slick cocktails PFC. What's your favorite part of Buffalo Wild Wings love at the mo-? Well, it's the wings beer, and the sports is what I like hell, yeah. 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Subject to restrictions limited time only Buffalo Wild Wings. We love you. Okay. Here. He is football guy of the week. Tyler Trent anathema, something completely different. Okay. We now. Welcome on football guy, the week Tyler Trent you've probably seen this story. It is why we watch sports. It is an incredible story Tyler it was a student at Purdue. He has been battling cancer fighting courageously against cancer. He had to withdraw from school for this semester to take care of his health. But he was able to go to Purdue Ohio State game. He guaranteed victory. Like, Joe Nemeth? And let's start there Tyler you are the football guy the week. I want to just say, thank you. Because I don't think you realize you single handedly beat urban Meyer. Do you realize that ha? I don't know. I don't think that's wholly anything. I've fully realize yet. That's for. Sure. Okay. That's a football guy answered. By the way, it is giving credit? But trust us, you personally earn line. And we certainly appreciate that. I saw that you were brought into the locker room. Did you address the team pre game? I did not know I had. I was joked I jokingly told Brown that if he needed Joe, I would but he never called me up on that one just afterwards. So what's what's what's the last week and a half been like because you've you've been on a whirlwind? I feel I feel like I've seen you everywhere. And it's been such a great story. It's like one of those stories that like I said you watch sports for these types of stories. What's it benefit? You had a second to kind of look back and be like man, I'm doing good Morning America, Scott van pelt part. My take not the Bragg. Have you had a second to take it all in? I'm not yet. I don't think. So I think this weekend. I'm across nothing you're saying will slow down, and I'll be able to take some time to kind of look back and reflect on things. But yeah, you're right thinking definitely been a whirlwind. That's for sure. Yeah. Definitely not now anything I ever expected, reaction wise or. Fame wise. I guess you could say from from the national media perspective. I saw that you got to you hung out with Tom Rinaldi a little bit from from game day, and he is famous for just making making everybody in America motion. No matter what the subject is. My question is were you able to turn the tables on him and make Tom Rinaldi cry? No. I don't think I I don't think I ever did make Tom cry. They're definitely not much which I'm sure you can tell from the piece where I was crying. And Tom Tom went there for sure. But calm a great guy. I am deceiver thankful for the time. I've been able to stay with him and just to work that he's young and Sportsworld on just telling people stories because like you said eating amazing storyteller. And I known for doing so mazing pieces. Man has done amazing piece in the past. I've always wondered to the piano music that just follows him around wherever he goes, you have like a speaker in his pocket that just plays when he walks into a room. You would think, but no he did not. Okay. Interesting. So I I did see that that after the game a number of famous Purdue alumni reached out to you. So Ryan Kerrigan said something at the podium, and several others who's the coolest person that has been in touch with you or shadowed you out. You know, I think it has to be drew Brees. He sent me a video after the game and show curious. You know, if you if you know Purdue, you know, your res, and he someone that I have looked to pretty much my entire life. As just an example, what hard working guy should be kind of just the I think in my mind, he is just the perfect example when a boilermaker should be in. So just kind of receiving just encouragement from him as opposed to incredible and something stupor thankful for. I gotta ask you a very important question has Cowart and been in touch. Kyle orange now been in touch. All right. Well, what we can do. Okay. So occasionally on the show we like to use our I don't wanna use the word cyber bullying, but are Cy cyber influence for good. We're going to try to get in touch with Kyle Orton because honestly like that's probably a higher honor than drew Brees rice. And also don't be offended if we like kind of we get in touch with colored. And then we do an interview with them and forget to bring you up because he's like a hero. No, we'll get to work on. Because you're the football guy the week in. It is a big honour. We have to ask a couple questions. What is your favorite who's your favorite football player of all time, not named drew Brees? And also, what is your favorite football play nine favorite football play has to be fired two banana, yum, yum football? Hell, yes. And I have to go with Peyton Manning as my second favorite football player. Okay. All right. That's fair. Second favorite behind. Drew brees. Yes. Yes. Okay. So just like the passing statistics. So like a week and half ago. Did you like Peyton before drew pass on the list? No, okay. Good. Not a front runner. That's a good list though. Peyton Manning or drew Brees Peyton Manning than coward? Nuts solidly. She got. Yeah. I mean, if you. If you grew up in Indiana, and you're not saying of payment, and it almost as honestly, hey, do you actually have any inside word on how Andrew lucked shoulders doing I far as I know he's fine right now. Okay. All right. So bad credit? You there for sourcing? Yeah. I can't guarantee the health of adamant Terri right now. Yeah. It's got that growing on the tickle. Yeah. So we'll well we'll see if he's able to kind of come back from danger that hey suffered on Sunday. But as far as I know anger till I find okay, we're gonna write that really saying much. I'll be on. No, no, no trust next support taking this from your man on the street in in Indiana. So. At what point during the game on Saturday where you're like, holy crap. We're actually going to do this. I think it typical Purdue fashion and when the clock I sell the clock finally year. Oh, and I sold the final score. Because you know, growing up Purdue fan, unfortunately, you kind of not grow up. Disappointing up sports. I would say, but you kind of learn not quote, unquote, in a pretty way, you know, Purdue has not been known as a powerhouse football. Why since since degreasers at Purdue style, you know, we had a pretty rough rough patch. Yeah. Before brawn came to Purdue. And so I think I was you know, I didn't start breathing again until the clock zero. And that's when I kinda never released came over me. And I finally realized that Purdue had upset the number two team in the country. No, I've said, I, you know, I I went to Wisconsin have said some things about west Lafayette over the years had some fun, you know, ribbing back and forth. And I'd like to tell you Tyler that, I'm not going to apologize for anything. And as a football guy. You should accept my non apology. That's totally okay with named. Yes. I I understand the eight of west also yet. And understand why people don't like it and may not be necessarily attracted to it at first glance. So it definitely it's it's rough romancing and need some loving. It's got some loving. And also, I will say some say something nice about west Fayette coward. Here. Remind Jeff Brom, maybe the ultimate football guy. So there is a small part of me. That's like Connor rooting for Purdue now because I do love Jeff Brown. Well, that's that's that's awesome. That's always something. I can get behind for. Sure. Yeah. We say it's rough around the edges. All I hear is. It's gritty it's Yanni town for gritty people. And I'm looking at the big ten west right now that might be the conference of football guys out there leading to FitzGerald yet. Chris you got a Brahm you've got back PJ Fleck, and you've got Scott frost and lovey Smith. Yes. All all in the same conference to become west. Love these rocking that beard right now. Yes. Yes. It's fantastic. It's wonderful. I can tell if there was snow stuck in it. Or if he just grew white beard. I think it's just a waste just look who who would be the runner up for a football guy of the big ten west in your opinion. I don't know. I I don't know. I don't have to go in love just for the mere alone. Yeah. I was very impressed by them beard when I saw on a couple of weeks ago in for new what's playing playing on the beard in the snow really pop and also love he doesn't care about offense. He only cares about defense as football. Guess what was coach Brom like when you were interacting with he cool guy? He is. He's a fantastic guy. You know, the guy he comes across. As is expected got his. And that's something. I really appreciate about him. Jesse great guy. I'm super thankful Purdue has them and off they kinda worried that we're gonna lose them too quickly. Yeah. I think he'll stay for lowly. I I see what you're saying. But I think he'll stay for a while. So Tyler we appreciate you. Joining us. You are football guy the week. We also want we wanted to just talk football with you. 'cause you're football guy the week. But if you could let everyone know how we can either help donations whatever we can do to help in your fight against cancer or cancer in general and also how how are you doing right now? And you know, how's everything going? So the way that people can help is there is a Lincoln, my Twitter bio and echoes directly towards donation page for Riley Chong hospital, which is where I have received treatment in the last four years of my life. And basically that hospital that has kept me alive or the last four years, and I wouldn't be able to sit here and talk to you today without a research that they've done in the work that they've done, and they're, you know, continue to save thousands of kids lives every year. And so one hundred percent of proceeds that are donate through that link go directly towards their pediatric cancer research center. And so, you know, I think if people were able to go and donate them link that'd be fantastic. Yeah. We're gonna go ahead. You know, I'm doing about as well as one can, you know, it's it's hard for me to come Klein everyday to blessing for me. And you know, I'm not doing chemotherapy or any treatment right now and on thankful to all the the Facebook robots who think that they had the cured of cancer. But unfortunately, they don't they think I proceeded a lot of messages since my game piece went went wild. And you know, I think they're definitely Facebook. You know, I I think you I'm saying, you know, some, you know, all those crazy people Facebook who think, you know, part of the MLM's to have the cure cancer. And so I'm really thankful for all their crazy messages. But yeah, I. Appreciate it. They they hometown a little bit. And. But yeah, no. So I'm doing I it's hard for me to complain. You know, when you wake up every day a live because you don't know if you're gonna have tomorrow, it's definitely cows blessing for sure, yes. So so let that be lesson to everybody essential oils and spoonfuls of coconut oil. We'll cyber bully those fuckers turns out that's not what helps people with cancer and families who catch really helps is donating. And I think the reality is like if you haven't experienced it, if nobody in your immediate family has guess what somebody will that's close to you at some point in your life. And there's actually a way that you can like fight it before it happens, and maybe prevent some of this stuff, and maybe save somebody's life, and that's by donating to causes like Tyler. So we're going to tweet out that link in your bio, and we're going to hope that we can raise a little bit of money for you. Okay. Why percent that thank you guys? Thank you, man. Congrats again on football guy the week. It is probably the most prestigious honor is awarded to anyone from podcast that that they just totally made up the honor. Yeah. But hey, I'm look I'm looking at the standings right now. Purdue does have a chance to win the big ten slow down. So don't don't do is my team definitely do that PF PFC. I am now you're now you're surely boilermaker, that's gross Tyler Canadian me. Thanks so much, man. And hopefully, we'll talk soon. How's good? Thank you guys. Good luck. All right. That interview with Tyler Trent was brought to you guys by me on these. 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I was going for an Oscar you be the judge. We got to a point where Hank Hank asked me to. There was a point in the script where we're at say. No. And Hank was trying to over direct me. And I said, you know, what Hank? I'll I'm gonna give you five knows right now, you can pick it, and I just hammered up. No, no, no, no. Nope. No. You know, what you shouldn't have to say no five times. No, one should be f. But no means does hate doesn't understand that there's a lot to learn about that very very, very problematic. Very problem for shame. Now that I'm thinking about it. Larry has done a song. He's been in several feature foot. He's I think all we need to do is get Larry and sort some sort of like show tune or or stage play, and then he'll be up for an e got. I was going to say then it'll be Will Smith get all of them. Does it all collect them all like the LOC? Yeah. Welcome to more like Will Smith rock doesn't rock doesn't have bars. Have you not heard the song with the refugee all stars? And it doesn't matter to I got fifty Bentley's into West Indies does. Emme bid. On your street to the day. You're welcome. What you are. You hate pros. What refugee all stars rocked Will Smith also has like his genes passed down to their success. True. True Smith that kid like makes you think right winner is Hank saying that the rocks. Offspring aren't going to be genetic freaks. Yeah. No, no, I feel like I feel like a guy like the rock. He'll have a kid. And it'll be you know, he'll become a punitive because look world has the water finds this level bad asses skipped generation. Yeah. Right Will Smith. He just has a kid that tweets out super deep things that are not like do you ever think about how much waters in the world? Oh at gene Smith. Okay. Let's get some segments. First up. We had to bring it up the World Series. Yes. It is still going on. Yes. The Red Sox are going to win Hank. You're game to I was was it great great apps finish shit, kicking the Red Sox, David price. It was do their situation. Now Chris sales. Do their situational hitting is insane. They just every time. They get a guy on run in scoring position. It's like, okay. We'll just get a single to the opposite field was elector. Heck as loud as fun. It's awesome. Did you see did you see Trump's wall hat tip? Peter gammons. No. But I did did you guys see that? They didn't fight Curt Schilling because of his political views. Really do like a legends of the Red Sox two thousand four that all the big players from two thousand four oh, why didn't ask her Jilin interim while trying to fuck interesting. So it was he was too busy doing his like web radio show that he does every well he was investigating who who did the mail bomb. That's true. Yeah. That was a big day. So David price does David price have the clutch, gene. That is the question that is the segment, and I'm gonna say, yes, he does the matters the most he has he is a is right in the ail in the World Series ready for this PF t is two point seven to Yarra. So essentially he just can't be bothered with the first round of the playoffs. That's fine. I liked that. I liked that. A lot definition the clutch when the spotlight is highest on him. He's very good. We know what he's done. He's evolved the clutch, gene. He's like the dinosaurs Jurassic Park. You know, they're all born women. There's like life finds a away and some of them evolve into Mils, basically, he spontaneously just dropped the pair testicles. He's I guess what? Clutching? Let's go. I didn't know what happened. Yeah. So hank. Here's didn't see. I didn't see it. So, you know, how y'all laugh at me when I tell you that if you put like tap water in in like, douse a frog in it. It'll turn the frog gay well, actually, frogs can change from female to male if they're around his only chicks all the time genders spectrum. Yeah. Says they can reproduce life fines away. God it came. So. The World Series. It means a David price has the clutch g now. Okay, as he evolved it he does he wear mouthguard. No. I thought he had a mouthguard any other night. Did you see that? He has like an orange thing in his mouth meetings, orange peel for cruzi. I did get a hot tip a couple of weeks ago. I think he does let you tell me if this sounds like bullshit sounded legit to me. But I don't know the tip was that, you know, how a lot of pitchers came down with hand foot and mouth disease. Let ballplayers then he wears them off guard. He does I'm just sorta always pitching. Yes. That's the softest move over. He does he wears them. Both guards. Okay. I got rescinded clutch staff. So. Okay. But anyway, so I I heard that you know, a lot of pitches coming down with hand foot and mouth disease because major league baseball was cracking down on illegal pine tar that pitches were using. So instead they start to use horse poop who on their arms, and they would just like Retz. Definitely not true. Where'd you read this? It was an unsolicited made this up. Yeah. No. It was it w-. It was hot tip coming if we're on unsolicited direct messages. I got a hot tip this past week urban Meyer is going to be the next coach of the Packers. Oh, yeah. Bob stoops going to be the next coach of the brand of Ohio State. I have heard that. Yeah. And I think that there's some credence and some great soups actually bought a house in Columbus last week. He searching for we're still waiting to be the coach of the bears has like six houses in Chicago hanker, you looking at up he wears them off guard. Yes, hey, come on. Confirmed. Gus let's see we had a row though. Like even weirder. Well, I think it's something about like a retainer. Yeah. It's grinding your teeth. But I noticed it. And I was like, you know, what we make fun of Steph curry why not David price. Well, at least he doesn't show it off. No, he doesn't really does a little. But it doesn't whatever he's got the clutch, gene. Now, it's crazy. It's it's insane. We have a just stop talking to Jon Gruden. But it's actually a fact check Jon Gruden. So would you say that he's worth all the money that they paid him? If he more than other win this world more this which pay players for flags. Why forever? Yes. So. Yeah. I was I was going to say, no. But then I thought I remembered flags fly forever. So whenever you whenever you any money. You spend on any guy who was on a championship roster. Jason Heyward flags fly forever. That's how it works us. So we had just stopped talking. Jon Gruden some guy tweeted out Jon Gruden said, I don't even know if the Amari Cooper traders official yet. On the same day that Amari Cooper was practicing for the Cowboys. So it went semi viral rose. A Jon Gruden myself included turns out this guy used a quote for Monday in tweeted it on Tuesday, and he should be in jail. He should is this the same guy that wrote the headline of Denver Broncos cocaine party. Yeah, they should be in jail. That is false information. You can't do that quotes out like a day later and expect us to know. But he actually makes somewhat of good point that you can't actually finalize a trade until like five years later when we can debate who won the trade through. So. Brad right away. Sam Bradford has not been traded Detroit hasn't been finalized from the eagles to the Vikings yet because we're still not sure who or the Rams to the eagles or from the Vikings to the cardinals. Yeah. I know if there's a lot that we have to figure out what sin Bratsa who on San Bradford's career Sam Bradford. Yes. It was actually very very very easy answer Bradford's. Yeah. His his agent. Okay. Next up. We had a Jimmy Butler update PF T. How many if you were going to trade top fifteen guy? How many first round picks would you offer? I think it's got to be worth at least seven. Yeah. Okay. So, you know, the answer the rockets are reportedly won't bomb offering four first round picks for Jimmy Butler, which is insane. I guess they assume that they can re-sign them because I pretty sure he's a free agent after this year. So that's an insane contract. Also, I mean, the the rockets first round picks aren't going to be high first round picks. No well, their own three. Oh, okay. So if the season ended today they would. Be in less. Yeah. There on pace for zero wins this. Yes. Yeah. I mean, that's I think it's not a bad move because you're that close to competing as the warriors maybe three rockstar on three they beat the Lakers, the rockets to give rockets or one into I stand corrected. The rockets are one and Susan bigger frog. Could James harden tweaked his hamstring. Is that true? That is true. Aren't crystal worst team in the league? Well, no, we don't know that that says who says all this formity says one former teammate. Yeah. And Ryan Hollins Ryan Hollins and Glenn Davis to the best basketball players of all time wouldn't do want. They west be the worst player in the league worst, mainly good team. It he'd gotten his 'Member 'Member 'Member 'Member. I think it's actually good teammate. What your mother that way? She's not like calling and complaining to distract me on game day. You can spend it any way you want. Okay. We have he handles all the ticket requests. So you don't have to. Yeah. Exactly drunk. Idea you have a drunk idea. I do you have a drunk idea. Yes. My drunk idea is Uber. But for lottery tickets, okay? I meant to play the lottery probably like the last four drawings. I only did the last two. So there were two that I didn't play just because I didn't feel like leaving my apartment going on. And that's not something that you can like seamless. Yeah. Can't post mates. Yeah. You have to have their needs to be a dedicated a cash cash only business that is somebody that will front the money at the store, and then give you the tickets. Why wouldn't they just put it whole thing online? He's put in a credit card. You know, what they really they should do like fifty fifty raffles are now going online because you can't buy lottery tickets with a credit card, but they might not have to pay you should have to do that that should be able to do or debit card. Debit card would or the cash out you have VIN mo- somebody no cash up. You know, what can you imagine? How much how much money the lottery would make if they somehow just made an app that you can with one click me buy lottery tickets. Yes. It would be insane. It'd be ridiculous. I would buy so many lottery. Yes. So that's my that's my. Idea. If you're an entrepreneur, I suggest you develop it, and then give me some share of the winning. So just basically a lottery online, you know, what I would do is. If I were the the guy that bought people out or how Uber comes into play here. We're just like somebody that will go to the store for you by the toilets post meets souless mates. Yeah. But dude in Silicon Valley, if you want to sell something you want to raise finance is the Twitter the lottery, it's either it's either a tender, but for or Uber, but for so in this case, it's Uber. But forgot it. But I just I just now realized a hole in my perfect plan, then which it has nothing to do. But if it were me, no that's partly per if it were me, and I just like bought somebody thirty bucks for two lottery tickets, and I just looked at them on my way to that person's house. It'd be like I'm just going to keep these lottery. Yeah. Right. Because what if this one is winter would've sucker you'd feel like if you delivered the winning line? Well, you you're the post mate, it should be that should be the tip. You get if you if the lottery ticket is a winner, then people would go and buy them all the time. Yeah. That's true. You so that's the service. That's. Really what it is. And also, I'm pretty sure that this is exclusive to like really lazy thirty year old dudes living in New York City. Yeah. But there are a lot of. Yeah. Yeah. Because I'm just thinking of like the guy who won the lottery, there's a lot of people who just play the lottery every day on the way home from work to get gas and stuff. Right. But there are a lot of lazy people. That's browse you don't guess. So let's do Hanks grab back finish off the week. By the way. I was informed today. Terrible news Verne Troyer has passed away. I did not know that until today several months ago really fucked up that you guys told me that Joseph Di to put guy from kid rock how long ago to virtual I it was recent this year. Yeah. Is recent? It's just as long to just lay that on a little liver can handle it. Yeah. Man. Okay. Realize superstar this is actually guys on chick? Diet Scottish personnel. Eight them when it would be. Yeah. Jonah in the whale situation. Then he comes and he's still faster. Yeah. No. But I'm saying like, it would be like joining the whales. So then he comes out and he's still alive. Hey. Actually debt. So if I like, the feeling of my boyfriend's sucking on my nipples and women breastfeed by letting baby suck and their nipples. Does this mean a like the feeling of breastfeeding? And if I do does make me a pedophile, I think that women. Yeah, you will women like that. Because it's like in their genetics to enjoy breastfeeding. Feels good feels like you're you're procreating anything associated with sex or giving birth. You're just gonna feel great doing it. Okay. I gotta be honest. I didn't listen to the question because barstool Carl got a dog, okay named it. Scottie Pippen, look dog is that's good dog. It's pretty cute. Sorry reminds you used to sell you. I sold it used dog one time one time named sky, and she looked just like that. Yeah. That's good dog for it. I'm so big cat. You're the you're really the nipple expert here if we're going with with with size over quantity. Yeah. Why does it feel good to breastfeed or do you think it does feel good to breastfeed if your woman? Yeah. I think it definitely probably. Well, it's also I think there's two to feelings you get pleasure. And also a relief of pain like a like a cow's full utters, you know? Yeah. Not saying that. That's what we'll know. That's what. Yeah. That's not what I'm saying. Not saying you're a cow. No, you look strike that from the beautiful. You get what I'm saying? The rest of these are PMT FAQ's behind the sausage making. Do you guys ever pay guests come on? No, no. In fact, the oil JC, what do you? Yeah. That's true. Yeah. We did. Yeah. We paid him. Well, we paid his charity. Yes. Probably goes directly to him. Yes. No. We are not we do not. But. What the one guest that? We had that asked for a check to come on the show. You will not be shocked to find out. It was Pete Rose. Yeah. And we said, no, it goes, I can say also might ask for some probably so no we do not pay. We will not pay. That's a big Jay. No, no. But if you have something you want to promote just tell us, and we'll fucking shamelessly promote the fuck out of it. I mean, if it's if you're really big guests will pay you. Oh, yeah. I'd pay. Yes. Up Aaron Rodgers. I'll pay you with the tip of my pinky. Rick potato. I'll get you a twenty dollars gift card to olive garden. Yes. How much warming up? Do you guys do guest before actually recording? Did you have to do more of this early on when the show was not as well known slash popular. Good question. I'd say early on. I'll take credit for you. Thank you question. Hank? Thank you early on, the guests that we didn't know that came on the show it was via Skype. So they couldn't see either one of us. Little fun fact about that. We didn't know well, they could see us over the over the video they weren't in the same room as us. So it's kinda hard to like butter somebody up that way. But. We didn't know for longtime was they could see video of me and big cat in our respective houses. So I mean, big at USA point at each other. When it was the other person's turned, and it wasn't until like twenty interviews in that we found out that the people could see us just like pointing directly at this. Like why why are you pointing at me like that. Actually, I forgot how much that sucked. We couldn't do any phone calls. But no, we we for warming up. I'd say it's e-. It's it's it depends on the case. Like a lot of times. It's someone who is aware the PR person has made them aware or someone that we know usually there's probably I don't know a couple couple minutes here and there on the phone or in person where we're just shooting the shit. See if we can get them to say anything explosive that then we can blackmail them with later. Just kidding. Just kidding all future. Guests just kidding with with usually to talk about mutual connections. You have. This guy on this guys are. Yeah. Sort of a lot of that. What what shows have you been on this week know that show suck star. You had to sit through that ask some questions. They didn't ask they usually like, hey, we're a lot funnier than everyone else. We're going to ask you some crazy questions yet. But we do if we have a football coach or someone we try to impress them. Being like, hey, we were with the strength coach down in Louisiana. He said he knew you. It's like, oh, usually they don't give a fuck. But they pretend they they basically sit there and like, oh, these guys are kinda lame. I I like to talk about my high school football career that usually lesson. It's pretty well. We actually von Miller when he came in. I was a hey, can I get some water or anything he's like Jenny cognac? And I was as a matter of fact, I do and so I drink a little glass of cognac von Miller. Why are you got? So mean to reveal new listeners need a recap of the beef. Okay. This is a complicated. It is very and we both have history. Yeah. Personal has you wanna go first? I've actually not that mean to reveal. I'm at a point I revealed several I beat him eleven nothing basketball. He then he it was actually the best thing he's ever done for his career no joke because Bazeley all the stories were like reveals not that bad. But I'm at the point now where reveal look he needs me. He needs me. And he needs me because when I interact with him. Everyone's like oh reveal he holy murder. Big cat. I I like reveal. I think he's a little bit of a tweet. But he's harmless, and he's a nice guy. Okay. I was dealt thirty saying that. Yeah. That also take everything back that. I just said if northwestern beats Wisconsin this weekend. Okay. That's fair. I hate reveal or a hated reveal. I won't say I hate them anymore. But I hated him. Because at one point when I was writing at a website called kissing Suzy kolber back in two thousand thirteen. He knocked on one of my readers when my readers made a joke about him on Twitter, and then Darren went into disguise profile Hiller joke. Well, they so it was it was making fun of Darren reveal for loving logo so much and saying like if you were if you were business reporter in nineteen thirties, Germany, you would have said that this was just an example of great branding is making fun of reveal and revolt. Didn't like that very much and reported him to his professor at Michigan university fast forward a couple of years that guy Dr Neil Muhammad, actually ran for the believers for the house representatives in Illinois. I think came in second place, which is pretty cool. So check him out if you live in Illinois, and so ever since then I've been like fuck you reveal your narc and then in the last like year so kind of things have thawed between reveal a little bit. And we have we used to really because even like a year ago. I was like let's get him on now. Because like, for example, if a listener of part of my take you got triggered. Well, if reveal went after one of our listeners and tried to get. Kicked out of school. I tell you. Lose. I would like to think that me, and you would stand up for list. I would just be like reveal your fucking. So so I hold a grudge. But mineral I think we're on we're on. Okay terms now. Okay. Last two who's number one lists of people you wanna interview. But haven't yet Aaron Rodgers. He'd be good news. It's interesting that you say Aaron Rodgers because you just hate him so much. Yeah. I want. Oh, Kevin Durant. Actually, I wanna call him a baby back bitch to his face. I feel like both of them. It would be tough for you to not say I'd have to come out hard at first. And then soften it up Aaron Rodgers. I would Kevin Durant. I think would actually be good after a while after we got the old baby back bit shit out of the way. Aaron rodgers. I feel like Aaron Rodgers if he was not in the right mood could be a very bad interview. And you know, I'd like to interview Jerry Jones on us. Get them all glory hole. Yeah. Get them all liquor up and talk to Jerry, he gives some gold for sure if we talked to him do an exit interview, Jerry Jones and just having it being glory, Jerry Jones entirely. Is just. The heck's going to stay on the other side of this wall, and you have to eat whatever comes through. Oh my God. All right last one side question will love to hear about PMT dogs ages where you got them, etc. Oh, good. Go ahead PF. So LeRoy is ten and a half years old. He's an English mastiff. He's going blind. But he can still see. And he so I'm like seeing eye person isn't gonna cute. I like welcome around and guide around is ironic. Given your cornea it is very very ironic, and I got him in when it was. I think it was Denver. Yeah. I got him in Denver, Denver, Pennsylvania. And we're breeder repaint it from a a nice minute night slash Amish family from a breeder that had to massive says their house as their family pets, and they thought got it. So I think she was tell me she was a breeder nice. Yeah. Very very problematic in retrospect, but I had him since he was a puppy, and he was like ten pounds because you've got a breeder. I couldn't be so lucky. Yeah. So still I rescued not to brag about saved Infinity. The dog who saved to. Yeah, it's true. She is seven and a half greybeard rescued from pause Chicago in a dire. Like, you die your hair. Now, I've thought about it. I've actually definitely thought when people die their their dogs like to look like Tigers. Yeah. Why do people say that's cruelty? No, it doesn't care. Yeah. The problem is it's like half the time. It's so cutesy agree beer and a half times. Fuck shit getting old. Yeah. She seven posh Chicago. I think they rescued her. She was just walking around on the south side. They just picked her up and she's fine him be shoes. Nine months old then so she never grew anymore. She's a we did a blood test. It's a fucking shit show. She is a pit bull. Beagle. Cattle dog other. Okay. So like a super super mutt. So here's a real question. Crazy McAfee Dogwood. Exactly. Yes. Yes. Yes. So she you could see all of it. Like, she she barks like a beagle. She has a little bit of a pit bull face when she smiles, but she's like too small for pit bull into her. She should not muscular. And she mistakes big cat for Cal time like a catalog. Yeah. Exactly. So she does just show up and running around. I just want to say this to me and Hank like all we had some weird thing. No. I'm just saying I'm sorry. I'm gonna apologize. Thank you. Oh, wow. Yeah. Qualifies for being mean to just everyone should notice the meanness only goes one way. Here's a really f t to me in. Hey, here's here's a real question, but cat when you move into parliament. What do you put on the application for what type of breaches? Seattle dock. Oh, yeah. I gotta put away. My pit bull. Yeah. One time. I I was moving to a place in LeRoy was like a hundred twenty pounds, and I put he's a lab mix. Yeah. And that didn't flights. Sells thirty pounds. But yeah, no, there's no chance that I would ever put anything. What about your dog, Hank? I had a dog named ruby for my don't do this shut up. I was actually just giving you shit because you don't have a dog. So you don't have a best friend because I have this fucking job and wouldn't wouldn't help. I would be able to have a dog as we should. We should get a community dog for the four of us and just let it live here. Yeah. We've we've done a pretty good job of goldfish. So getting a dog would be great. Oh, man. Okay. That's our show. We got some big guests coming up in the next couple. Yeah. Him big guess big guests excited coming up next couple of weeks. Lovey guess have fun love love. Yes. Today.

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